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Obama Says Public Defends Efforts For Gay Rights

February 13, 2012 by  

Obama Says Public Defends Efforts For Gay Rights

President Barack Obama told supporters at a fundraiser that the public “readily accepts” the efforts by his Administration to grant equal rights to gay citizens, The Washington Times reported.

“The work that we’ve done with the LGBT community, I think, is just profoundly American,” Obama said at a $35,800-per-head fundraiser at a home in Northwest Washington, according to the newspaper. “You should be judged on the merits — not by what you look like, not by how you worship, not by where you come from, not by who you love.”

The President was introduced by Laura Ricketts, the first openly-gay owner of a major league baseball team, who noted that the LGBT community would stand behind Obama in the upcoming election, the Times reported.

POLITICO reported that Obama spoke to the repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, as he noted that nothing had happened since this move and no issues have arisen with unit cohesion.

“We just kept plodding along, because of that, in some ways, what’s been remarkable is how readily the public recognizes this is the right thing to do,” Obama said of the repeal.

According to the news outlet, the fundraiser netted the President $1,432,000.

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  • Kerry

    Well golly, Obama is queer himself! Only difference he kills his boyfriends after smoking crack with them(Donald Young and Larry Sinclair-two boyfriends from Rev. Wrights Church in Chicago in ’99)! Go figure!

    • wandamurline

      From my understanding, there was another…for a total of three. Two of them were assignated chicago style right before Obama launched his campaign tour and the other one died naturally. Of course, no one will ever know the real truth about the imposter in chief because everything is sacred and cannot be seen by the people.

    • bernadine

      iS MECHEL A WOMEN OR A TRANSFORMED MAN. AND WHERE DI THE GET THE CHILDREN.

      • Angel Wannabe

        bernadine___WALMART!!!!!

        • Joe H.

          NOPE!!! China just like everything else!!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JOeH, LOL!

          • http://naver samurai

            This must be one way of them getting back the money that Obama bin Laden borrowed from them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai___Lmao!

          • http://naver samurai

            I aim to please Angel! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Wyatt

      Wow ! You forget his wild and gay Harvard Days . Barry Obama pushes gay rights not for America, but for himself so he can come out of the closet and go back to grabbing his ankles and slurping sausage.
      He claims Americans support him on his stand ? Well he would claim that, He seems to believe that we like him and his policies. His cheap attempts to become the Dictator and president for life are a plague Americans detest .
      Remember Barry, the bible says Adam and Eve, not, Adam and Steve !Your GAY CRAP my fly with your crowd but not with America

      • Robert Smith

        Wyatt says: “the bible says Adam and Eve”

        So? America is NOT a theocracy. If you want one of them go to Iran or the Vatican.

        Rob

        • Angel Wannabe

          RS__Nup_ “Its a republic if we can keep it”, so said Ben Franklin__But there is still no provision in the Constitution for Gays…sorry_-I still stand, that if ya wanna be gay then do, your not getting a badge of honor or a Free Pass Go, for it__forget you!

          • Robert Smith

            In America equality is a badge of honor ALL citizens are entitled to.

            BTW, what would you have to change? Same sex marriage is aready legal in several states. Have you changed ANY of your views?

            See, you can still be a bigot. I don’t care, as long as ALL Americans get the freedoms they are entitled to.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robbie, all do have the same oppertunity, if they don’t, they either don’t know the law, or they’re waiting for someone else to do it for them, here again ->-> American creation of entitlement mentality!

          • Joe H.

            Angel Wannabe,
            robbie obviously doesn’t realize that he has the same rights already! He can marry ANYONE he wishes to…….OF THE OPPOSITE SEX!! Same as you Jukebox, Libertytrain, DaveH, and myself!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob, Rob, Rob, didn’t anyone tell you that you are not entitled to anything you don’t earn? A person sitting at home moochung off of the government has not earned those rights. Gays? How many times do we have to tell you and try to get the point through your very thick head. No one has taken any God given rights (Bill of Rights) from them. Can’t they vote? Bear arms? Have legal representation? Own private property? Sheesh! When will you stop saying the same lies, rhetoric, and innuendo? Its like you keep beating the dead horse. Can they marry? Yes. They can marry someone, no matter race, religion, social status, or national origin, but they just have to be the opposite sex. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. BTW, I have someone coming to this site starting this Saturday. I don’t think you’ll like him too much, for he is my pastor.

          • smilee

            Angeel

            It is in the constituion, the 14th amendment which reguires all laws made by the states treat all equally and that means all including marriage laws, no court ruling to date has found differently. This issue is not if but when the whole county will have to conform to this constituional right for all, both gays and straights

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer kang. The 14th Amendment is a hodgepodge of things thrown together. It is also a right given to us by government, ergo it does not trump the 10th Amendment (A God given right). Second, the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were passed to deal with slavery, former slaves, and their children, not gays so quit lying. Marriage and behavior are not covered in the Constitution and the Federal government cannot dcree if they can marry or not, for it is the rights of each state to determine this, according to the 10th Amendment. You have used this refuted point so many times, you’re like a record with a scratch in it. Play to the scratch and then it skips back to the prior music.

            “…No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the priviledges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property…”

            This would work well in the overturning of Roe vs. Wade, due to denying a person the right to life, but it has nothing to do with gay marriage. They have equal protection under the law (More like more protection.), same God given rights under the Constitution (The Bill of Rights), other government given rights under the Constitution (Voting is one I can think of), etc., but marriage is not covered. Marriage is not a right. It is not mentioned in the Constitution or any of our founding documents. I see you have come back when everyone has moved on and with a different name. More names shows more ignorance. The 10th Amendment trumps the 14th, due to the 10th being a God given right and the 14th given by government. Let them get a civil union, but a marriage is 1 man and 1 woman brought before God in Holy Matrimony. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the Straight and narrow path. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • James

            A “Republican Form of Government” is supposedly guaranteed in Article IV, Section 4.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Sam… “…No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the priviledges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property…”

        Have you examined The Penal Codes & Vehicle Codes of the States? Constitution rendered Useless By States Criminality!
        The District Atturney: Real Duty Is to Defend the State against Suits by Citizans for Deprivation of Rights… Not Prosecute Public For Code Violations! That is the root of the Corruption of the State as Government!

    • HKaufman

      @Kerry,since you deal with RACIST remarks i will respond to your HATE, and IGNORANCE.. IF your so Lame and in need of ATTENTION, SEEK HELP, your dealing in an emotion that will someday rear up and find you sitting in Cell crying for Mommy… I am surprise that Bob Livingston allows These Hate remarks on Comments. TAKE YOUR RHETORIC ELSEWHERE. You know nothing about anything you ignorant FOOL… IF you have nothing constructive to add to this Article, do all of a favor DONT POST ANYTHING. IF the Comments offend THOSE OF YOU WHO PRACTICE HATE,RACIST attitudes,,, GOOD!~!!!!!!!!!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        HKaufman___IF the Comments offend THOSE OF YOU WHO PRACTICE HATE,RACIST attitudes,,, GOOD!~!!!!!!!!!!

        Reply__Just for Shytze and Giggles Bob L left you post your nasty remark too___Sounds like your in the same boat as the rest of us with opinions, Hows ’bout an Oar to help row??

      • http://naver samurai

        How the h*** did he use racist remarks? I don’t see any mention of skin tone in his post. Second, it seems that when it come to hate, your post is the more hateful and agressive one. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. Remember, hating the lifestyle, not the person, is not racist or biggoted. Hate the sin and not the sinner. Hate sin and abhor evil. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          samurai says: “Remember, hating the lifestyle, not the person, is not racist or biggoted.”

          Sure is when Americans are denied equality and fair treatment under law.

          Remember, it was just a few years ago that blacks and whites were unable to marry. What if sook young was of a different race and you were told you were unable to marry her?

          That’s the same kind of hateful position gays are put into. They can’t marry the one they love because of religious nuts across America.

          Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Race baiting again see RS??__ER, marrying one of a different Race than yourself, and marrying of the same sex “Gender swapping” is two entirely different things, at least when two different races marry, its at least STILL MALE AND FEMALE… are ya gettin this?..

          • http://naver samurai

            Ahhhhh such wordplay to insult others and steal their rights. Yes Sook Young is from Korea and they don’t like their daughters marrying foreigners, so I had to earn that right. Why is this a subject for you Rob? Jealous because you can’t be with your gay lover? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • USAF VET

            The Bible says to hate the sin, but not the sinner. Homosexuality is a sin and an abomonation. As far as giving them rights, they already have the same rights the rest of us do, so why do we have to make exceptions for them just because they are sick. And this thing about calling themselves “GAY”. These sick people are most certainly not Gay, and homosexuality is a mental disorder.

          • Robert Smith

            We as Americans are NOT run by your bible.

            If you want a theocracy to to Iran or the Vatican.

            America is for Americans who believe in equality and freedoms, NOT hate and bigotry.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robbie, America was built on the blessings and divine providence, go ahead and continue to try to lie your way out of it to prove you liberal point, and thats not gonna happen! :)

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            They alreadyHAVE equality and equal rights! They, like us, can marry anybody they want of the opposite sex. As far as visitation in the hospital, that can be arranged BEFORE. As far as inheritance, all they have to do is get a good lawyer and write an excellent will! What other rights do they need? Insurance coverage? Easy! I can’t put you on my insurance or my next door neighbor for that matter, why should you be able to? See robbie, it’s not about EQUAL rights, it’s about SPECIAL rights!

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Angel and Joe. Rob, how can you say America is for Americans when all of our ancestors, except the Native Americans, came here from other countries in Europe, Asia, Africa, etc? You know, the Great American Melting Pot? They also have the same rights we all do, so stop beating the dead horse. Not run by the Bible? What source do you think they used for the Declaration of Independence? God also? Then why is God mentioned in the Declaration of Independence 4 times, the Constitution, on our national monuments, Leviticus 25:10 inscribed on the Liberty Bell, and Jesus mentioned in the Constitution? Need to wake up Rob! This is a republic, true that, but you cannot seperate this republic from our Judeo-Christian founding. I sware, you 5th columners are so ignorant it is pathetic. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Raceism has become a 1 sided rule!!! N.A.A.C.P. Gets Government Backing & Funding! Where is the White Supreamicy Backing & Funding??? Whites Get Sued For Neglecting the Blacks, in their Restruant. Than Must have an un perportional amount of Black Employees. ( Notice I didn’t Write Workers.) CIVIL RIGHTS To BLACKS is: What is Mine is Mine! & What is Yours is Mine Too…

  • combat seabee

    Yo Oblowhole, the only thing that the public “Readily Accepts” is that you are an a$$hole!!!!!

    • Robert Smith

      Tell us combat, just how has your life changed since same sex marriage and dumpint DADT are now part of America? Do you get up on a different side of the bed? Do you look at your neighbor’s dog in a whole new way?

      Rob

      • Angel Wannabe

        rs, SORRY KIDDIES, attacks ain’t working take your dollies and go home!

      • APN

        You seem to have dogs on your mind a lot lately, Robert. You got something you need to tell us?

        • Angel Wannabe

          APN, lol! ;)

        • Joe H.

          robbie,
          you stay the hell away from my dog, Sam!!!! I’ll bet samurai feels the same way about his Fluffy!!

          • APN

            LMAO!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            D’oh! :-) I keep Fluffy inside if Robert is around. No beastial things going on while I’m on watch. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JOeH, APN and Samurai__Now you ladies play nice with robbie!!LOL!

          • http://naver samurai

            Play nice with the school yard bully? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry Rob, but you need to get your facts straight before you post. We still have DOMA and fruit marriage is illegal in Indiana. Ergo, it isn’t part of our state society. DADT being overturned? Look for it to come back next year under a different administration. I agree with APN, you do mention dogs a lot lately. Should I be taking Fluffy inside and locking the door when you come around the neighborhood? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. No one is buying your crap, so go peddle your papers somewhere else. I here Huffington Post and Dailykos would welcome you.

      • Robert Smith

        So, you’ve told us nothing that has changed thus we may conclude that your life hasn’t changed because of same sex marriages.

        Looks to me like you are denying couples in love marriage just because of your hate.

        Rob

        • Angel Wannabe

          RS, Still slinging crap I see :)

          • Joe H.

            Angel,
            I hear robbie wears a t-shirt that has a picture of a monkey on the front with the caption “I fling POO!!!!”

          • http://naver samurai

            Is it the north end of a south bound monkey? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, LOL!!!

          • APN

            JoeH……I thought it said: “I fling my civil union partner’s POO!!!!”

          • http://naver samurai

            APN:

            D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          Going by what the Bible says is not hate. BTW, why are you so hateful Rob? Mommy and daddy didn’t hug you enough when you were a kid, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai, yeah rob is miserable, “us and our brutle God”!

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree 100%. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Rob, along with his ilk, are a 5th column is this country. They want to destroy it from the inside.

        • http://naver samurai

          It is not hate Rob. It is not wanting the moral fabric of this country to be ripped to shreads, like they are doing with the Constitution. Can’t you 5th columners understand such simple logic? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            It is you who is ripping the moral fabric apart and also the Constituion. Your hatred of gays is proof of that, you can hate the sin but you are not to try and force them not to sin, that is their business and not yours, using man made laws to force people to obey the law of God is also a sim. All sin even you and I’m sure you would not like someone forcing you how to behave, I find your sin of hatred more offensive than homoseuality, hatred hurts others , gay activity does not hurt others only themselves if even does that and it does not if that is beyond the control of the gay which many of them says is the case

          • http://naver samurai

            SSDD, eh Kang? Care to cite a source on that? No one is forcing them to do anything. It is against the moral fabric of this country. In the days of the founders, gays were considered an abomination in the eyes of God and gay marriage punishible. They did the same when they passe the 14th Amendment, these days the moral fabric of this country is being ripped to shreads by gays, abortion, progressives, etc. Till you can open your eyes to what is really going on around you, you will never truly see. Don’t talk to me about hating. If I hate the sin and not the person, there is no problem. Can’t force them to do something? I know that, but we can still confront them and remind them that their lifestyle is wrong in the eyes of God. Freedom of speech and religion, God given rights as written in the 1st Amendment. Go take you science somewhere else. It has no bearing on the subject at hand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Robert Smith

      Still no real answers about how their lives would change if same sex couples are allowed to marry.

      Sure looks more and more about simple hate and bigotry using religion as an excuse.

      See above and check out how they line up with each other. In boot camp it was called “rockets to sockets.”

      Rob

      • Angel Wannabe

        robbie, sounds more to me like “Idiots and azzh*les” :)

      • http://naver samurai

        We have many times Rob, but you are just to less intelligent to understand. Darned 5th columners! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • James

        If everyone married the same sex partner, mankind would soon cease to exist.

  • Doc Sarvis

    President Obama is correct in that more and more Americans recognize that homosexuality was never an issue that we have to fear. The more society accepts the homosexual community the better and stronger our communities and our country will be.

    • David in MA

      “homosexuality was never an issue that we have to fear”
      Ya?
      How about Aids, no fear there?

      • Doc Sarvis

        AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease that affects BOTH homosexuals and heterosexuals.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Doc sure it does, you can thank the BI-Sexuals for that!

          • Doc Sarvis

            I blame unprotected intercourse with multiple partners.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Doc Sarvis, Boy thats Stating the Obvious!

          • Doc Sarvis

            So AIDS is a “sex” issue not a homo/hetero/bisexual issue.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Doc__ your not asking questions doc your trying to steer the conversation__If Your not smart enuff to understand the uncleanliness of fecal matter, on either side of the equation and then having sex with the same fecal matter, you deserve to remain ignorant & perverse. Anything outside of normal sex between a man and a woman is perverse__If you and twinkie, robert and anyone__ want it, believe in it then you live in it and fight for it___stay outta my in the closet face with it! I rather remain in the closet, than perverse_ buh by!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Angle W.
            Was that supposed to make sense???

          • Kinetic1

            Angel,
            When did fecal matter become the driving force in this issue? Aids can be transmitted through oral sex, vaginal sex, blood transfusions, shared needles, child birth and breast feeding (infected mother to child) and the list goes on. Are you trying to tell me that in all these cases someone had anal sex with a homosexual and then passed it down through other partners? Fear and ignorance of AIDs are far more deadly than the disease. Try not to be a carrier.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Look Doc whatever point your trying to make, it is obviously pro-Gay_-I get that, then let it be then, all your doing is stirring the pot and YOU couldn’t give a ratz azz what I think!__Frankly I don’t give a damn what you do, or who you do it too_BOTTOM LINE GAY anything to me is disgusting, repulsive AND THERE IS NOTHING ANY OF YOU BLEEDIN’ HEARTS ARE GOING TO DO, OR SAY to CHANGE MOST MINDS THAT FEEL AS I DO__YOUR PRO-GAY OPINIONS ARE A WASTE OF my TIME AND YOURS! iN THE END YOU MAY WIN YOUR RIGHTS, KNOCK YOUR SELVES OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN, US HOMOPHOBES AS WERE CALLED, DON’T REALLY CARE EXCEPT STAY OUT OF OUR FACE, WE hAVE JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO NOT LIKE THE gAY LIFESTYLE, AS YOU DO TO LIKE IT :) :)

            iS ANY OF THIS GETTING THROUGH YOU GUYS lIBERAL THICK HEADS?????

          • Angel Wannabe

            gEEZ, KINECTIC, You know more than I gave you credit for! :)
            Again, it all come down to about promiscuity, it has to start somewhere! I don’t LIKE Gay anything and don’t really care if you do or support it or not!____I DON’T!_enuff said!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Angel,
            “Promiscuity” is not limited to homosexual sex; bi & heteros can experience that as well.

          • Angel Wannabe

            yES DOC_ WHEN heteroes SLEEP WITH BI’S that usually don’t anounce they’re BI__ You people are trying everything ya know to change our minds and ya just can’t seem to take no for and answer!__Ya may a s well give up with me, cuz it ain’t cutin’ it!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Angel,
            I just wouldn’t any impressionable person to think you had an argument – not that they would if they thought about the issue.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Look doc_ bottom here is were talking about my opinion against yours__I’m not moving from my stance on Gay anything what you choose to believe is your problem__You want to support Gay or be Gay then its on your head, your responsible and accountable_I think its disgusting and I’m not going to hell for ya!

          • Doc Sarvis

            There you go! Personal Liberty! It is not for you, it is not my lifestyle, it is a personal issue and should not be denied to those who are homosexual. They should be treated under the law just as the rest of society. I knew you would come around.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Ok doc, if you want sexuality as a “PERSONAL LIBERTY”, THEN TELL ME WHY THE GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE INVOLVED, YOUR BEING REDUNDANT…I’ll wait for your answer…..

          • Doc Sarvis

            Government does not need to be involved in consenting adults couple’s sex life. Nor should it discriminate in treatment between homosexual couples and heterosexual couples.

          • Angel Wannabe

            That answer doesn’t cut it doc, they are NOT discriminated against__They either one don’t know the Law or two fighting with family!__you need to read my post up farther__We had an Uncle in the Family who was Gay and died__Eveything from his life insurance, house and the full contents went to his live in partner__That is fact!
            Because we helped make his arrangements, I KNOW THE TRUTH!__Your CREATING an agenda that isn’t needed__its all BS!

          • Doc Sarvis

            A VERY small number of states treat gay couples the same way they treat heterosexual couples. For instance in most states, if a partner of a gay person dies and there is no will then the property will not automatically go to the surviving partner.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Dead wrong Doc, your pushing and agenda,__People are free to give/leave whatever they want to whom ever they want they always have!!!!!__This is an agenda your pushing!!!! you want everyone, ALL OF US” to accept the gay style, and your making your case by saying it they are discriminated against__zThis ain’t Congress bud no back door deals here only truth!No pun intended!!!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Wrong. If there is not will (as I stated) the survivor of a homosexual couple is probably out of shared property whereas, even with out a will (again) the survivor of a heterosexual union would get shared property. I believe the same holds true with adopted children of homosexual couples in most states. Also, in most states the partner of someone in the hospital critical care unit may not visit their loved one.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry “Doc”, but you’re wrong again. It has nothing to do with personal liberty. Personal liberty is an unalienable right endowed by our God. Being gay is against God’s plan, ergo it is not a right, but a choice. Second, please show me where marriage and behavior is covered under the Constitution. For the life of me, I just can’t find it. Care to cite a source on this matter? Ooops! I keep forgetting that doc, along with his ilk, do not belive in facts or sources. It makes their little lib minds hurt. Gays are a perverse lifestyle. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. A friend of mine wanted to know a good site to read, be informed, and post his opinion. I told him Bob Livingston’s Personal Alert Digest. I hope you don’t mind Bob. The libs may mind as he is my pastor.

          • Robert Smith

            Actually neither Assac Asamov nor Arthur Ash were gay but they both died from AIDS.

            The fact is that early in the epedemic there was no testing available. They didn’t konw what it was. Both men got HIV from blood transfusions, coincidently both for heart conditions.

            And now before you go on a rant there is absolutely no way to tell if the tainted blood came from a heterosexual, a drug user, a gay person, or anyone else.

            I do have one point to ponder though. With lesbians it’s very difficult, if not impossible, to get HIV from sexual activity. Could lesbians be your god’s choice to be gifted and not endangered by HIV?

            BTW, would you approve of a gay union if they were celibut? No sex. They want the advantages of being a family and maybe adopting some kids.

            Rob

          • Robert Smith

            samurai posted: “Being gay is against God’s plan…”

            So? Why should anyone follow your brutal god’s plan?

            BTW, did he condemn all those killed in the big flood to eternal damnation? All the population if Earth except Noah and his kid? Sheesh, that sure looks brutal to me.

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Nice twist of words Rob, but to no avail. You still are in retreat. Nice try in covering your tracks, but you have failed miserably. Noah was spared because they were the only ones on earth, at that time, to believe in God and not fall away. God does punish people who believe and act like you Rob.

            “I was a protestant”

            Rob Smith, November 22, 2010

            Since you were a protestant, therefore you knew God and Jesus. Woe unto them that have know and have fallen away, for greater is their damnation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            Angel asks: “iS ANY OF THIS GETTING THROUGH YOU GUYS lIBERAL THICK HEADS?????”

            Yup. Simple hate, fear, and bigotry.

            Noboby is putting anything in your face. If your neighbors are gay all you will see of them is them getting in and out of their car on the way to work. Unless you take up peeking into their bedroom wondow you have no idea what goes on except in your imagination.

            Denying someone equality in America based upon your perverted imagination about what gays do is unAmerican. Have you actually seen what gays do? No? They you truly are basing your evil judgement on heresay and what other bigoted nuts have told you.

            Seems like such a sad way to live life. All that hate. Must be a really evil god tha puts you in such a position, rather than enjoying your own life.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            robbie, there is no discrimination against they gays other than the agenda your trying to create__your a liar, where’s your proof?!__Outright Lie!__The Gay Uncle that died left all his belongings to his live in partner__None of us contested it so he got it all!___
            You lie and cheat your way for a paycheck!

          • Joe H.

            Doc,
            IF you ARE a doc, you would know for a FACT that the first known case of aids in the US was a GAY flight attendant that used to frequent the gay bathhouses in FRISCO! He would go at night so the sores on his body would not show! so YOU TELL ME, who is to blame for AIDS??? It sure isn’t the heterosexuals!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob, either post sources and facts or just shut up. Remember this about gays from one of our founding fathers:

            “Almighty God, Who has given us this good land for our heritage; We humble beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry, sound learnings, and pure manners.”

            Thomas Jefferson

            Ergo, what you always say about gays, abortion, and drugs, does not fit what Jefferson is saying about this country. Where do you get off saying that they are OK, when it is against God’s will and against the thoughts of Thomas Jefferson? No special rights for gays. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • smilee

            Angel Wannabe says:
            February 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm

            Angel a spouse of someone of the opposite sex is considered a legal heir to the surviving spouse, that is not true in states that do not have legal gay marriage, yes they can leave all or part to them in a will but this can be challlanged in court by someone whom is a legal heir. This is in violation of equal protection regiried of all laws by the foourteeth amendment and as this is addressed in the constituion it is not states rights to follow it. The courts to date have ruled this way in every case includig again in CA this year. You apparently do not believe in the rule of law!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Another lie there Kang. Since gay marriage is a state issue, no federal, it come under the 10th Amendment and not the 14th Amendment. Care to cite a source showing I’m wrong? I guess it is beyond your capacity to do that. 14th Amendment covers former slaves and their children. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Angel Wannabe

          Doc__ if there is no will, NO matter who is left, it will go to the courts to be decided!!!__My Grandmother had no will, 8 kids left and a farm and its contents__ it went to the courts to be decided__its the way it is__I just didn’t fall off the turnip truck!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Good job sticking to your guns, fellow patriot. We patriots need to stick to our guns and not back down. If we do, then all hope for this country will be lost. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            ats what I say Samurai__tell sook young hello for me! :)

          • Neil Swan

            Samurai, homosexuals are born that way. If God is against it why does he allow it to happen.

            Doc Sarvis is the correct one.

            Neil

          • Angel Wannabe

            Neil__ Maybe your God allows it, ours Doesn’t!

          • http://naver samurai

            OK Neil, another 5th columner has just reared its ugly head, care to cite a source showing there is a gay gene? If it is natural and part of our DNA, why would God say it is a sin and they be cast into hades? If it were DNA, then God wouldn’t punish you for it. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            Angel says: “Maybe your God allows it, ours Doesn’t!”

            Ah ha! Finally an admission of something I’ve been saying all along!

            There is more than one god.

            I still think yours is evil and brutal. All that death and what his followers do in his name is just disgusting. That ritual canabalism… Just disgusting. And I don’t have to imagine it. It’s on TV.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sure there is plenty of “Other God’s & Images “Baal”, “Baphomet”.. Funny you pick natures god as your brutal God___Ya know what robbie, I think your full of shyte little man, ya think your gonna get the best of us, yeah yeah our brutal God… lmao__That’s your first downfall robbie, and watching TV is your second, I would need infinte amounts of bandwidth to type the rest…. I thought you were a little smarter than believing everything you see on TV___LOVE, Your Serve…. :)

          • Joe H.

            Neil,
            you are full of it!!! Show me one FACTUAL cite that states that a gay gene actually exhists! show me one that says it HAS been ACTUALLY FOUND!!! You CAN’T!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Hello Neil. Neil? Neil! Crickets. Only crickets. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • randall hill

      I disagree queers are not acepted and shouldn’t be.God said go forth and populate the world and I don’t think two men or two women can do that. HE ALSO SAID THAT IT WASN’T RIGHT FOR TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN TO SLEEP TOGETHER I guess if we let Obama and the democrats get rid of regelion it wouldn’t matter until judgement day right.

      • Rick

        Hear, hear! I will accept homosexuality when there is even one proven case of a man making another man pregnant, or a woman making another woman pregnant. I actually would love it if all Liberals were homosexuals because then they couldn’t reproduce and create more of their kind.

        And Obama? It’s pretty clear he is in favor of ANYTHING that is anti-Christian, anti-American, or unconstitutional.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Rick absolutely agree!!!

        • Robert Smith

          From Rick: “It’s pretty clear he is in favor of ANYTHING that is anti-Christian”

          Really. Are you saying Bishop Spong isn’t a christian?

          He must be worshiping one of those other kind christian gods.

          Rob

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            Are YOU saying that reverand Wright IS???? He’s got more time in with that fool than the bishop!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Bishop Spond is a false prophet and gets his inspiration from men (literally) and not from God. The man has fallen away from God. Woe unto those that have known and have fallen away from the faith, for greater is their damnation. Spong is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. God and Jesus told us to watch out for those kind. In fact, he is a member of the same 5th column you are. Why do you praise this deceiver so much? Do you attend his services? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Carrobin

        I guess men and women who can’t have children (because of age or sterility) shouldn’t be allowed to get married or, for that matter, have sex, according to “God.” I’m a Christian who thinks God has a lot more tolerance than some religious purists do.

        • CommonSense4America

          WRONG!!!, but He will take care of it when the time comes.

          • Angel Wannabe

            common, Yes he will, yes he will!

        • http://naver samurai

          Are you sure you are a Christian? By the postings you made about abortion and now the overused arguements used by the left wing wackos on this site (This is one overused by Rob Smith), it makes me think that you are a CINO or a wolf in sheep’s clothing, Jesus warned us about them you know. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Robert Smith

        Rick says: “I will accept homosexuality when there is even one proven case of a man making another man pregnant, or a woman making another woman pregnant”

        Another corporations aren’t people and that dumb law where they can buy elections should be tossed out.

        Rob

        • Angel Wannabe

          Whoa, deep huh….

        • http://naver samurai

          Ahhhhh such wordplay to insult others and steal their rights. A quick changing of the subject or an attempt at misdirection. Classic liberal strategy. Why don’t you all just wave the white flag and go home. You are not winning here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            How is it to “win” as you deny equality to Americans, samurai?

            You still haven’t told us around here what has changed in your life because gays can marry in some states.

            Please be specific.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            robbie, if you’d like to know what the impact is on Gays being able to marry, why don’t you get off your azz and find it out for yourself, you don’t want an real answer, you want another point to agrue with? :)

          • Joe H.

            angel,
            robbie WORK??????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Been there, done that! Now it is time for you to show the positive aspects of their marrying on this society. Cite sources and facts. I guarantee you find nothing. Another loss for the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • wandamurline

      Homosexuality is a choice. When I was young homosexuality was called being a “queer” because of the unusual sexual behavior. Being a Christian, I cannot condone homosexuality as God deems it an abomination. It is not “healthy and natural”….if it were, the lower animals would participate in it and they don’t.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well said Wandamurline!

      • sheldon

        Wanda… a person’s sexuality is not a choice. Did YOU wake-up this morning and “decide” you were going to be heterosexual? Of course you didn’t… you are what you are.
        Your assumption that “…the lower animals would participate in it (homosexuality) and they don’t.” is just plain wrong and there are plenty of reputable scientific reports that document animal homosexuality (just use Google).
        Why do you care what two consenting adults do in private? If a same-sex couple wants to get married and have all of the legal rights and responsibilities that come with a legal union, what harm is it to you?

        • Angel Wannabe

          sheldon__oh hell yesssss I’ll run right to Google for the answer__ :) :)

        • Nancy in Nebraska

          Sheldon,
          “Why do you care what two consenting adults are doing in private?”

          If they were doing it in private, it wouldn’t be an issue. No one would know about it. The problem occurs when they try to force it on others and try to force others into accepting that it’s ok. They have an agenda. They want to remove all the morals and values from this country. They want to degrade our people and tear us apart. What they’re doing is wrong and they want to force the rest of us to legitimize it. Then we are all degraded. And I am tired of hearing that all they want is equal rights. They don’t want equal rights. They want special rights. They already have the same rights as everybody else. They have the right to get married and the definition of marriage is the union of one man and one woman. They want to change the definition of the word marriage. I say no! I don’t want to know what they’re doing in the privacy of their own bedroom! I want them to leave me out of it. But they won’t!

          • sheldon

            Of course they have an agenda. “They” want to be able to get married. This would mean “they” could be listed on their spouse’s health insurance. “They” could be listed as a beneficiary on a spouse’s life insurance policy. “They” want the same benefits every heterosexual spouse has. There’s nothing immoral about that and there’s nothing special about that. It doesn’t hurt the status of my marriage or yours, but if you’re hung up on the word “marriage” then call it a civil union (but that’s just like saying all water fountains are equal, but one is for “colored” people). If your REAL complaint is based on religion… show some tolerance and kindness to those who are different than you.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Whoa, Whoa, Whoa Shelden, You can list ANYONE YOU WANT On a will or an insurance policy!__Throw that crap out the window!!__A lonng lost Uncle of ours, was Gay and his live in got the insurance, the house and contents when he died, forget you!!!Your making stuff up!__Ask any lawyer!

          • Nancy in Nebraska

            Yeah, you’ve bought into the agenda just fine! Keep twisting things to make it look like I’m the evil one for disagreeing with you! No one else has a right to an opinion unless it agrees with yours! Keep drinking the kool aid!!! You’re the one comparing homosexuality to wifebeating and pedophilia. Don’t try to make it look like it was me suggesting such things! you are EXACTLY the type of person I was talking about! You think you can bully people into agreeing with you?!? NOT ME!!! WON’T WORK!!! Go bully somebody else!

          • sheldon

            Angel… YOU ARE WRONG. Try to open your mind to these facts:
            - According to a 1997 GAO study requested by Rep. Henry Hyde (R), at least 1,049 U.S. Federal laws and regulations include reference to marital status.
            - A later study in 2004 by the Congressional Budget Office finds 1,138 statutory provisions “in which marital status is a factor in determining or receiving ‘benefits, rights, and privileges.’” Many of these laws govern property rights, benefits, and taxation. Same-sex couples, whose marriages are not recognized by the state, are ineligible for spousal and survivor Social Security benefits.
            - The federal ban on same-sex marriage and benefits through the 1996 DOM Act extends to federal government employee benefits.
            - higher cost of purchasing private insurance for partner and children if company is one of 82% that does not offer domestic partner benefits
            - higher taxes: unlike a company’s contribution to an employee’s spouse’s health insurance, domestic partner benefits are taxed as additional compensation
             legal costs associated with obtaining domestic partner documents to gain some of the power of attorney, health care decision-making, and inheritance rights granted through legal marriage
            - current tax law allows a spouse to inherit an unlimited amount from the deceased without incurring an estate tax but an unmarried partner would have to pay the estate tax on the inheritance from her/his partner
            - same-sex couples are not eligible to file jointly or separately as a married couple and thus cannot take the advantages of lower tax rates when the individual income of the partners differs significantly.

            And yes Angel… you can ask any lawyer about this.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sheldon, No I’m not wrong! We’ve had Gays in the Family too, I know what I’m talkin about!__Your trying to push and agenda that doesn’t even need to be there!!! see ya Pal!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Hey Sheldy__same goes for Power of Attorney, you can give Power of Attorney to anyone, the only way it can be stopped if someone in the family contests it…….then its called a power struggle__can’t bullshyte a bullshytter!__;)

          • http://naver samurai

            Way to go Nancy and Angel! You two patriots make me proud to be an American. You have to ignore Sheldon (Kang). He’s an antagonist with a superiority complex. You know, the mental disorder. He’s just trying to bait you two by using the same old refuted statements that are nothing more than lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. He does not have God and Jesus in his life and his postings show it. Come after me Sheldon. I invite you to try. Remember marriage and behavior are not covered in the Constitution, nor are they rights. Gays do not have the right to force their “queerish” beliefs on anyone, nor do they have the right to act out their lifestyle in public. These are not right endowed to them by God. If you force your “queerish” lifestyle on someone, that is infringing on other people’s God given rights, as well as their 1st Amendment rights (Also given to us by God.). Why don’t you look at the book on this site:

            http://www.americanvision.com/only-one-mommy

            This shows how one woman woke to her mistake and is fighting for her child. Maybe you could learn something from it. Ooops! A lib learn? I need some more coffee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Hear Hear Samurai!!!!!

          • sheldon

            Come after you Samurai??? You invite me to try??? OK, I guess I’ll have to type VERY slowly. Samurai… read my post above from 1:59. That is the point. When have you ever refuted these “same old” statements? This is the first time I’ve ever mentioned them, so it’s impossible for it to be the same old rhetoric and innuendo. So, you’re wrong already. The above points illustrate that gay couples don’t have the same rights as married couples. Why do you think that’s fair? What harm does it cause you if these rights are extended to gay couples? No one is forcing anything on anyone… they just want to be able to marry and enjoy the same rights and benefits as married people do, what’s your problem with that? If your ONLY problem is religious then so be it. If your sole argument is simply based on the Bible then that’s fine, end of discussion. (By the way, the Constitution, the First Amendment et al, were written by men for men, your god had nothing to do with it.)

          • Angel Wannabe

            shedly__with protection of “Divine Providence”__Where is this located?

          • libertytrain

            poor sheldon, or jon or whatever name he’s using this time round…..

          • http://naver samurai

            SSDD, eh Sheldon? They have equal protection under the law (Actually more protection) and all rights under our God given rights of the first 10 Amendments. They have the right to vote, bear arms, give testimony in the courts, serve on juries, etc., so how don’t they have equal rights? They want to have special rights that no one else gets in marriage. Marriage is 1 man and 1 woman, enough said. You 5th columners are losing badly today.

            “The Smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a Nation that disreguards the external rules of Order and Right, which Heaven itself Ordained.”

            George Washington

            This quote from Washington just explains it all. Gay marriage is against the rules of Order and Right. Ergo, it is like a disease in this country that we need to be cured of. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            From Nancy: “They have the right to get married and the definition of marriage is the union of one man and one woman.”

            Really? Isn’t poligamy in your bible? What about early Mormons? Were they any less dedicated to your brutal god than you are?

            It is YOU who is being intolerant in America.

            Tell us, simply because your brutal god is offended (according to you) just how does same sex marriage impact you? Do you really look into bedroom windows to see what people are doing?

            BTW, any particular sexual activity you can claim same sex couples do is ALSO being done by heterosexual couples. Really. You too can be enlightened by watchoing a vew videos on the web.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            robbie, I think ya like typing just to hear the keys click…just sayin…

          • Joe H.

            Sheldon,
            As to your post about choice and animals, I would hope there’s a LITTLE difference between you and an animal, As a sentient being, you have the ability to THINK! you can reason between right and wrong!!! An animal can not! As far as choice, YES, I believe homosexuality IS a choice! Show me a “gay” gene!! You ask why would someone put themselves through this life style? Easy, there are people that walk into a marine bar and say;(their words) “Marines suck”! Why would they do that? To get attention, cause trouble, and buck the system!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Joe H. He won’t be able to disprove you on the subject, no matter how hard he tries. Rob, stop with the lies. I haven’t know any “straight” man to want to be intimate with another man or use smear vaseline on another man’s backside (No offense intended.). Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Equal Rights do not equate to Special Rights as you assume. That is not even half heartedly true that gays have equal married rights. Not even close! How many homosexual acts have you seen in public? You seem to observed such an act in your comment. I haven’t seen any indoor or outdoors! How do you come to the conclusion that they are tearing you down? You can still have heterosexual sex all you want or not. Gays don’t stop you from going to church or buying groceries for that matter. Live your life and let others live theirs and I don’t want to know what goes on in your bedroom either.

          • Nancy in Nebraska

            You miss my point! If it were kept private, no one would know! I keep my private business private. So should everyone else! It would be a non issue! They are trying to force acceptance from others. If you are keeping your private life private, no one knows no one cares. They cannot force me to think the way that they want me to and shouldn’t be trying. I have the right to believe as I wish and they are trying to make it seem like I’m the bad guy. I have no wish to judge these people. God will do that. So stop putting the subject in front of our faces and trying to get us to agree through the use of “political correctness”. Stop trying to influence others! Let each decide freely!

          • Kinetic1

            Geees Eddie, listen to Nancy and get it right. If I want to beat my wife, what’s it to you? If I want to have sex with my kids, well shoot they’re mine aren’t they? What I do in my home is my business and as long as I don’t reveal it to the world you should just stay out of it. You don’t see me going to Congress and demanding that they validate my life style, do you? The Bible says I can stone my wife if she cheats on me, and I don’t want my government getting in the way of my religion, right Nancy?

          • Nancy in Nebraska

            Accidently posted my response to your drivel, up higher!

          • Angel Wannabe

            whoa kinectic we’re scared, cant’cha hear our knees knockin!”

            YOu picked a target but your aim is off! LMAO!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Nancy you go girl!!!! :)

          • Kinetic1

            Nancy,
            It’s not bullying, it’s pointing out hypocrisy through sarcasm. I get it, you don’t want to see homosexuals making out in public. You think what they are doing is wrong. Truth be told, I don’t want to see homosexuals OR heterosexuals getting hot and heavy in public. I have no desire to involve myself in the homosexual lifestyle, but I also don’t feel the right to condemn them to a second class life.

            Tomorrow is Valentines day. Imagine you were living in the time of Saint Valentine and Claudius II announced that marriage was illegal. How would you feel having to keep you marriage a secret? Why would you want any two people who love each other to have to hide it away? Why should any two people who care enough for each other to vow devotion to one another be denied the legal rights associated with marriage? I’m not asking you to accept homosexuality as “normal” or permit gays in your church, just that you be tolerant enough to allow them to be together in a hospital when one of them is ill.

          • http://naver samurai

            Nice spin on your words Kinetic1 (Long time, no see.) and ed-duh. I can’t believe you would say such things ed-duh, since you claim to be a Christian. I agree with what Jay said to you on this last Great 8, you do sound like a closet atheist. Can’t be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. No, no, no! Angel and Nancy well said. It seems the only group that really supports “queerish” marriage is the Atheist Communist Looney Liberal Union. Look for things to change with our new president coming January 2013. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kinetic1

            samurai,
            What makes a “real” Christian? Must a “true” Christian believe in a literal translation of the Bible? Do “real” Christians believe the story of Noah, of Adam and Eve or Cain and Able? Did Christ walk on the water or by the water? What translation of the Bible does a “true” Christian follow?

          • Angel Wannabe

            well kinectic most Bibles run along the same lines of interpetation, unless one of you liberal brain-i-acts gets a hold of it and revise’s it first!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Yes Kinetic1, we believe in all the things you have mentioned. Don’t you? Second, I don’t know what is the official translation, but my church uses the King James Bible. Don’t you have a Bible Kinetic1? You should get one and read it sometime. Its very interesting and mind awakening.

            “Had the people, during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle. In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity. That was the religion of the founders of the republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.”

            Congress, U.S. House Judiciary Committee, 1854

            I guess you 5th columners like going against the wishes of our founders. As is shown here, your beliefs are against what our founders wanted for this country. You all are just about division, polarizing, promoting perversions, and trying to keep God out of everything. You all will lose in the end. No butts about it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kinetic1

            Angle,
            Your comments speak volumes about your ignorance of the history of the church and Biblical translation.

          • Kinetic1

            samurai,
            Yes, I have several. I was raised on the King James, like most of you, but as I grew and my curiosity grew I began to study and learn about the history of the King James Bible, as well as many others. My search led me, at one point to join a Lutheran congregation where the pastor studied Greek so that he could read the ancient texts for himself. You don’t meet many people devoted enough to go to these lengths, and the Church sure does it’s best to keep it down.

            The “word of God” has been written and re-written, revised and edited to fit the desires of many powerful churches and leaders. Can you deny this? Are you so certain that the King James Bible is the literal word of God? And if so, why do the leaders pick and choose what dictates they will and will not follow?

          • Robert Smith

            samurai points out: “since you claim to be a Christian.”

            Who are YOU to be an authorit on who is christian and who isn’t.

            BTW, did you know that Jesus himself was a Jew? Yup, you are worshiping the Jewish kid who was turtured to death by his father.

            But, that’s an aside. Just what authority are you that YOU get to decide who is christian and who isn’t?

            I’ll bet Bishop Spong disagrees with you.

            Rob

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            If your bishop agrees with and follows the gay lifestyle, then I would go as far as to say HE is not a true christian any more than YOU are!! As a matter of fact, following your posts, I would guess you are ASEXUAL and even a little afraid of sexual contact from a woman!! Do those big bad women scare you robbie???

          • Angel Wannabe

            jOEh, lAUGHIN’ MY aZZ OFF!

          • http://naver samurai

            First, Rob read the Bible. For God and Jesus say who are true believers and children of God (Christians). Haven’t made that popping sound yet, 5th columner? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Joe H, D’oh! :-) This is probably why he is divorced before and had a child aborted. He even denies that he posted, “I was a protestant” on 22 November 2010. He just doesn’t know that I’ve made notes about some of his postings. I’m just waiting for the right time to dump them onto this site.

        • http://naver samurai

          SSDD, eh Sheldon (Kang?)? You have used and overused these statements so much, that they have no effect in the debate, nor do they bring anything to the table. What is written in the Bible, God’s word, about gays is true and there is no other truth. 닥쳐라 무신론자놈아! Just an antagonist. They are less intelligent, possess low self esteem, and have no real friends. Get my points? It does affect the nation as a whole by destroying the moral fabric of this nation. It corrupts traditional marriage and our Judeo-Christian founding beliefs. Ergo, it is not acceptible by a vast majority of Americans. Haven’t made that popping sound yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kinetic1

            samurai,
            Homosexuals, as a group are less intelligent? Did you really write that or are you copying text from an old white supremacist pamphlet? Next you’ll tell us the Jews are behind all of this.

          • http://naver samurai

            No I was not talking about gays. I was talking about antagonists and Sheldon. I do not possess any sources about gays and intelligence at this time, but I can find some. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Donna S

          You are spot on Sheldon.
          And to Deerinwater: if you are capable of posting using proper grammar, I will read your post…. but not until then.

          • http://naver samurai

            You couldn’t be more wrong and you know it. Trll alert! Troll alert! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Donna S, EWWWWWW MY…The Spelling Princess has S-P-O-K-E-N!

          • Joe H.

            Donna S,
            I’ll hab yu no I tuk the evlynne read sped reddin corse!! I cun red an writ jest as gud as yu cun!!! go away lady!! We have more important things to figure out than somebodies spelling, grammer, or proper punctuation!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            joEh, OMG!__I RMEMBER___”THE EVELYN WOODHEAD SPED RIDDEN COURSE”!!!!
            ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!

      • Robert Smith

        wandamurline says: “I cannot condone homosexuality as God deems it an abomination. ”

        I can’t condone that canabalism thing with that there brutal christian god. You know, transsubstanciation and all that. Or even the ritual of eating flesh and drinking blood. Ewwwwwwe.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          SSDD, eh Rob? Not even worthy of a response. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • APN

            Very correct Samurai, Robert will get his response at a later time……..poor soul.

          • http://naver samurai

            :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Angel Wannabe

          Tryin’ to strike up discord are we robbie??

        • Joe H.

          robbie,
          Well WE don’t like what you guys eat, EITHER!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Coming or going? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Ellen

      While it is true that many people don’t have concerns about gay rights, it is not true that most people agree with Obama’s actions. His actions have been to ignore the Constitution and existing laws. For example, he declared his admisistration wouldn’t pursue or prosecute anyone who violated the Defense of Marriage Act. That’s not the dictator’s decision to make. Homosexuality is natural; it’s just not normal. So are spinabifida, bipolar disorder, and Cystic Fibrosis. No one will even begin researching the causes(s) or cure(s) because it is politically incorrect. When did we become such stupid people? If I had a gay child, I would want a cure. This is not anti-gay, it is wanting my child to have a normal life.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Ellen_ there is a cure for homosexuality, its called choosing No instead of yes!

        • Ellen

          How you feel is not a choice. How you act is. You can’t help who you like and don’t like, only how you treat those people. You can’t help who you are attracted to. It has long been known that homosexuality has a mental component to it. Schizophrenia is called the ‘bearded lady’ disease because they frequently become homosexual if their medicine isn’t working correctly. Homosexuality is very common among our youth, yet rare in 3rd world countries. We’re doing something here that causes this, just as we cause autism, ADD, and food allergies among our young.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Ellen your words__”We’re doing something here that causes this, just as we cause autism, ADD, and food allergies among our young.

            Reply YEAH WERE ARE DOING SOMETHING TO CAUSE ALL THIS, WHICH IS TRYING TO CHANGE THE NATURAL ORDER OR THINGS AND PLAY GOD, INSTEAD OF JUST LOOKING IN THE DAMED MIRROR AND ACCEPTING WHO THE HELL YOU ARE!
            INSTEAD OF BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISTAKES, BAD BEHAVIOR OR BEING DOWNRIGHT PERVERSE_, Everything IS “EXCUSED” AS a damned DISEASE OR MENTAL ILLNESS!.
            When alot of this young generation today FINALLY DECIDES TO GET MARRIED “AFTER ” THEY HAVE KIDS, WHEN THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE KIDS THEN THEY’RE PUT ON PILLS FOR ADD OR SOME OTHER FRICKEN MADE UP PROBLEM) THEN THEY’RE MARRIED FOR A COUPLE YEARS,_THEN THEY CHANGE THEY’RE MINDS AND GO OFF “IN A I DON’T LOVE YOU ANYMORE TANGENT” OR TRYA LEZBY/GAY FRIENDS RELATIONSHIP_ AND THE POOR KIDS ARE LEFT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HELLS RIGHT OR WRONG___AND YOU IDIOTS WONDER WHY THE KIDS ARE SOOOOOO
            F*(^ED UP!____ WHEN THE HELL ARE YA GONNA WAKE UP!.

          • Angel Wannabe

            I’m waiting ellen…….

          • http://naver samurai

            Care to cite a source that may back up that lie? None of my 4 kids have any gay feelings. Our 3 sons like girls very much and our daughter is only interested in the male of our species. Natural? Don’t think so. Common among our youth? Don’t think so. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. When are you going to answer Angel and have the nads to post your opinion against me?

      • Michael O’Hara

        Your claim that the admin. will not enforce the law is incorrect. They will not defend the law against the current law suits objecting to it on constitutional grounds, but they will enforce the law until those suits (or legislation) change the law.

        • Ellen

          Why has Obama’s admisinstration not filed suits against any state that enacted laws allowing gay marriage, which is against the federal law DOMA? Why has Obama’s administration filed suits against the states that enacted laws regarding illegal immigrants, even though those laws are based on the federal immigration laws? Obama has an agenda and he’s picking and choosing the laws that meets it. That is in direct violation of the pledge he made when he became president.

      • Donna S

        Ellen, Ellen, Ellen. Thank you for professing to want to “cure” me, but I would never want to be heterosexual. If you have a child who is gay, their comfort level with it depends on YOUR attitude. Would you try to make them right-handed if they are left? Would you want them to cover their eye color with contacts so it is the same as yours? I’m guessing no. Then why on earth would you want to force them to try to love one that they just cannot? Being gay is as abnormal as being left-handed. I happen to be both, and not discontented by either. LIVE AND LET LIVE PEOPLE!!!!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          We were not founded on live and let live. Your kind is an abomination in the eyes of God and goes against everything this country stands for. Traditional marriage, morals, ethics, and Judeo-Christian beliefs. How do gays feel? Who cares. Did you have a more challenging childhood than I did? I don’t think so. You want some cheese to go along with that whine of yours? Being gay is a sin in the eyes of God.

          Leviticus 18:22
          Leviticus 2-:13
          1 Corinthians 6:9-10
          Romans 1:24-32
          1 Timothy 1:8-11
          Jude 1:7
          Colossians 3:5

          There are many more, but this should be enough for you. You can even watch this source:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qre8bfz4drA&feature=related

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai, nothing matters to the libs Sam, the libs completely spin it, hoping to catch some unsuspecting fish off guard!__Your right they’re trollin…

          • sheldon

            Actually Samurai, the only abomination is your very tiny and very narrow mind. You talk about homosexuals “forcing their lifestyles” on others, yet you’re such a raving hypocrite as you force your fundamentalist lifestyle on everybody. None of your posts show any empathy for others and none of your posts show any ability to understand someone else’s view, just a very simple-minded world view that is based on your particularly narrow interpretation of the bible. You quote the bible, but you don’t understand the bible. Everything in your world is either black or white, but you fail to realize the most of reality takes place in the shades and tones of life.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Psssttt..Hey Sheldy, here’s a lil’ secret, “Opinions are like Azzh*les, we all got one!” ;)

          • libertytrain

            at least some people use the same name…jon.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Liberty_ another one who changes name…Da Da da…and the plott thickens….stay tuned….just a chuckle!

          • http://naver samurai

            Yes Libertytrain, yes, yes, yes! This is Jon (Kang). He’s been busted by someone else other than me. HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Why don’t you look these up Jon, Sheldon, Kang, or whatever name you decide to use?

            Leviticus 18:22
            Leviticus 20:13
            1 Corinthians 6:9-10
            Romans 1:24-32
            1 Timothy 1:8-11
            Jude 1:7
            Colossians 3:5

            Go ahead and look them up and tell we patriots that we are wrong. I invite you to try. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            whenever there is a “gay” article, he (Jon, et al.,) follows you around like a dog in — let it go. At least however odd rob smith is, he consistently uses the same name…not hiding behind different names. Let it go Samurai, he’s nothing.

          • http://naver samurai

            You are correct. Back to the mission at hand. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          Donna S.,
          You say ” I wouldn’t want to be Heterosexual.” thank you, as you just gave strength to what we say. IF you were born that way, you would say “I couldn’t be heterosexual if I wanted”

          • http://naver samurai

            D’oh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai

        Same old unfounded lies. Care to cite a source saying it is natural? Since there IS NO GAY GENE, your arguement falls flat on its face. Like always. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • sheldon

          Oh Samurai… you simple, simple man. You are absolutely right, there is no Gay Gene. But then again, there is NO HETEROSEXUAL GENE either!!! So what exactly is your point??? (Other than you have a childlike grasp of even the most basic principles of science.)

          • Angel Wannabe

            sHELDY___absolutely ROFLMFAO, WOW, SUCH INSIGHT, BE STILL MY HEART!!

          • http://naver samurai

            True that I’m not a scientist, but a teacher, veteran, historian, and deacon in my church. At least I’ve earned these titles, how about you? Knowing science can be helpful, but is not necessary on the subject. How can you use science when emotions and spirituality are involved? Science has no basis in this subject. Since there is no gay gene, science is thrown out the window. In 1973-1974, it was taken off of the books by the APA (American Psychological Association). Since it isn’t a mental illness, psychology is out the window. That leaves feelings, choice, and spiritual warfare. Things you seem to be lacking knowledge of, eh Sheldon, Jon, Kang, or whatever your name is this week. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Bob M

      Sure call it fear and you get a leg up in the propaganda wars. It is not about fear, I am not afraid of queers, well not as long as they don’t sneese on me or something, possibly spreading some sort of gay desease. I do however find their life style repulsive and I do not wish to have me and my family exposed to it in public and increasingly on tv.
      Obama and his homo freinds need to go back in the closet where they belong, and stop telling us we accept their life style.

      • Jibbs

        Well said, Thank You.

      • APN

        Well said Bob….They need to keep their misguided perverted lifestyles to themselves. Nobody wants to see or hear about it. And get some help as soon as possible and we don’t their junk science thrown at us either, as in:

        Sheldon Said:

        “Other than you have a childlike grasp of even the most basic principles of science.”

        Well Sheldon, is this the same childlike “Junk Science” you used to sell us the Global Warming junk? Yep, we have some childish behavior going on in this country but it lies with you progressive-marxist, not WE AMERICANS.

    • Patriot II

      Doc,

      That is because people in this country have rejected Christianity and the Word of God.

      Homosexuality is Detestable to God. Lev. 18; 22, Also,..Lev. 18; 23 says not to have sexual relationships with Animals, and the way people Idolize Animals now, (Idolatry) I wouldn’t be surprised if that is not happening already or soon to happen.

      The Fall of Rome, Romans; Chapter 1, the final step in the Fall of Rome (like USA today), Is HE gave them over to a Depraved Mind, They have become filled with evry kind of Wickedness etc. If you ain’t for God you are against him like Obama is, and will be cast into the eternal Lake of Fire. Judgment is HIS, I ‘m just trying to Warn Yall, and pray for Almighty God to Bless you instead of Condemming you.

      • Doc Sarvis

        This country is largely made up of Christians. Granted that Christianity has “evolved” so that outmoded/historical biases are let go such as one can’t eat shellfish or love another individual that has the same X Y chromosom combo.

        • Patriot II

          Doc; these are Social Christians. True Christians, which are very few in number now, Know Stealing is a Sin, Murder is a Sin, Adultry is a Sin, Homosexuality is a Sin, Society (not Real Christians) accepts your views. If they don’t beleive the Word, they are Not REAL Chrisitans. You need to understand this if you are to make comments like this.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • cawmun cents

            You would do well to remember what(Biblically)it says will occur in the final days.
            That the world will twist until everything is opposite of what it should be(paraphrasing).
            Liberals will not be happy until every deviancy is acceptable to all.
            That means we wont get to be here,becuase they will have to remove us to make that happen.
            Unfortuanately for them,when we disappear,who will speak of righteous indignation then?There will be none to champion any good thing at that point.
            They will think that the world will be a better place then.
            They can have it.
            I say,give their worldliness to them freely,and let them be dominated by it.
            They dont want any wisdom and wont hear it even if it is spoken to them.
            But I ppray they will listen,eventually.
            Nobody wants to see someone go into eternity absent the presence of God.
            -CC.

        • APN

          Actually Doc, for practicing Christians, the Bible Diet for Gentiles holds as true today as it did the day it was written. So does the penalty for a man sleeping with a man.

          You can try to bring the Bible up to date all your want(Progressive), yes, the world has changed, however, GOD has not. He is the same today as he was then and will be the same tomorrow.

          • http://naver samurai

            HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://20%Rep. Jack

        This could not be said any better

        • http://naver samurai

          I second that motion! It even says in Revelation that these things will come about as we near the end of days. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Cliffystones

      Like I once told a Gay Male Co-worker of mine, it’s none of my business what you do in private. But please don’t try to make me watch! Stay in your own damn bedroom/closet and let us straight folk be. I explained to him that watching two grown men swap spit would make most of us straight guys vomit. It’s like nails on a chalk board only a million times worse! After saying this he finally had an “aha!” moment. These “Gay” people need to respect the sensitivities of Hetrosexual people too.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Cliffystones, This was several years ago, I was Djing a bar and two Gays (men) were in a lip lock at table right near the stage…There’s was a friend who was there also, a Lez, but we understand each other. I asked to either tell those two to knock it the hell off or I will, she was a friend of there’s, it ended!!!__I was never the type of woman for an open display of affection out in public, to me, there is a time and a place for it!!!

        • Cliffystones

          I remember the same guy saying “what about two women?” I replied that that thought was only slightly less creepy because I had the defence mechanism of imagining myself being the less attractive one in the duo.

          You also reminded me of High School. I had a friend whose girlfriend and him had to be pried off of each other to get them to class. Of course there is a certain expectation of idiotic behaviour at that age. But it’s sad that some adults can’t tell the difference between a Night Club and a bedroom!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Cliffystones, a couple of teenagers going overboard, yeah, but supposed adults?, quite honestly I’ve told more than a few get a room, not over the micrphone but, I went to them personally and told them to knock it off or leave__Honestly a lot of bar patrons don’t like it and will leave, and neither do I!

    • Alondra

      This CHARLATAN & USURPER is NOT and NEVER WAS a Christian!!!
      His last claims, which he made at the National Prayer Breakfast on the February 2, 2012 that “for me as a Christian” or “my Christian walk” are the biggest hypocritical and cynical mockery of the name of Christ!
      Walk with Christ means to obey Him and follow His teachings which are laid down in New Testament. But the impostor walks with satan, following satanic “gospel”.
      Whom he thinks he is deceiving? Any TRUE Christian knows that he is not a Christian, but those liberals like ‘Doc Sarvis’ will buy his lies. Your leader promotes the SATANIC doctrine, not God’s. He is walking strongly and firmly holding satan’s hand. He cherishes and shares all satan’s characteristics and values: arrogance, narcissism, SUPER EGO;
      When he and his leftists’ legion can’t win an argument or message, they are following the Satan’s “gospel”: they start to crash the spirit and character of the opponents by demonization, bullings, insults, lies, deceptions, calumnies, smears, dirty tricks, distortions, scared tactics; using race card, labels, mantras and slogans such as “hate” speech, homosexuals’ “rights”, homophobe, islamophob, racist, bigot and etc.
      But what is interesting that Libs always portray themselves as victims. And If you disagree with their agenda, so you are against their “civil” “rights”.
      The diagnose for the libs is LDD (Liberal Dyslexia Disorder). LDD is luck of the ability to recognize, comprehend and determine what is right and what is wrong; what is good and what is bad; what is moral and what is immoral; what is ethical and what is unethical; what is tact and what is tactless; what is beautiful and what is ugly.
      TRUTH does not matter for leftists’ agenda! They hate any TRUTH. Therefore leftists rewrite history of the societies by covering truth by lies, by substituting heroes on villains, changing the pluses on minuses, the white on the black.
      Just recently Erick Holder gave his definition of the TRUTH. He said that the “truth” is just a point of view.
      This is a short and I hope the clear explanation who LEFTISTS ARE. And of course they are superior than conservatives or Christians.
      And now about homosexuality:
      Any, even “beginning” Christian knows where Heavenly Father, our God, and LORD Christ stay on homosexuality:
      “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination/detestable/hateful…But you shall keep My statutes and My rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger, who sojourns among you…So keep My charge never to practice any of these abominable customs, that were practiced before you, and never to make yourselves unclean by them: I am the LORD your GOD.” (Leviticus 18:22-30)
      “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals/catamites, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
      And much, much more.
      Do not be ignorant ‘Doc Sarvis’, educate yourself.
      And finally advise from Holy Scripture:
      “Trust in the LORD with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct[a] your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; Fear the LORD and depart from evil. It will be health to your flesh,[b] And strength[c] to your bones.” (Proverbs 3)
      Good luck and follow the KING of KINGS, the one and only JESUS CHRIST and you will have internal life. Do not follow obama’s lies. He has demonic spirit, not Christ’s.

      • http://naver samurai

        Well said and very true. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Alondra__Hear Hear, you go girl!

        • APN

          Excellent post…thank you for sharing it.

  • Warrior

    How does one arrive at a figure of $35,800 to attend a fundraiser? I wonder what the figure would be for a fundraiser put on by “bestiality” proponents?

    • Robert Smith

      Do you know Warrior that “slippery slope” arguments are just plane dumb?

      The “domino” theory of ‘Nam, the lies about how our military would fall apart without DADT…

      Rob

      • David in MA

        Smith, were you ever in the military?

        • Angel Wannabe

          David in Ma__”Crickets” :)

        • Robert Smith

          Yup, 4 years USN ‘Nam era.

          Photographer

          Washington, D.C. & Intrepid with an ASW sqadron.

          And now David will launch into how I couldn’t have been because I don’t mind gays in the military. He’ll attempt to cast doubt and launch into a bunch of nasty cracks if the usual pattern is followed.

          Face it Dave. Having gays in the military isn’t going to impact it any more than having blacks join the military. Further, if you deny your kid or any other kid the opportunity to join the military because of your hatred both the kid and America are going to lose out. Our military is doing just fine without your hate.

          Rob

          Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robert Smith & Doc, I gotta love you guys perserverance, always attempting to spread your cause and highjack a thread by blowing sunshine and lollypops up somebody’s butt, if you’ll pardon the pun??!!.

          • EdinNola

            I must guess that you were on the Intrepid early on, because in 66 / 67, we re-outfitted the ship to be an attack carrier and took her to the Gulf of Tonkin. I only bring this up because, before we left for the war, homosexuals were removed from the ship. The most popular destination at the time was the USS Kearsarge. It was felt that young men needed to keep their minds on their duties.

          • Jibbs

            Face it RS, David is correct.

          • APN

            Robert said: “Having gays in the military isn’t going to impact it any more than having blacks join the military.”

            Wow, your ignorance never ceases to amaze me! Is it the chemicals?

            You just equated a black man to a homo? Good thing you aren’t standing in my space. You talk about a racist bigot!!!

            All the people who make such comments, like you, have no clue as to the DANGER you will place these perverted sick people in. Mix them in with the alpha males and see what happens. OOPS! Another friendly fire casualty. You plan on having a separate unit, barracks, etc. Where do we put them? With the females? I guess that would work given the fact that they would have the same organ preference.

            Get real Robert, you have no clue what you’re talking about and your comments are evidence of that fact. I know numerous service men and NONE want a homo serving in their unit.

            Try selling your perverted fecal matter exchange to a liberal, not here.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Well said APN!

          • Cliffystones

            While you’re defending Gays in the Military, how about defence of those Southerners who have a Confederate Flag tattoo? They have been denied entry into the Marines simply because of pride in their southern heritage.

          • Cliffystones

            My previous comment was directed at Smitty.

          • http://naver samurai

            Way to go EdiNola! You just hit Rob Smith center mass and made a big hole in his statement. He even said on November 22, 2010

            “I was a protestant”

            What made him change? Did he perform in the very acts that he supports? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • APN

            I don’t believe you…period.

          • APN

            That is Robert, I don’t believe. Nothing he says appears to be factual or makes any sense whatsoever.

          • Joe H.

            APN,
            robbie? make sense?? GOOD one!!!HAHAHAHA!!

          • http://naver samurai

            If Rob ever made sense, time would have to stand still for that specific moment. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://jenersea@comcast.net jenersea

    Just like the military and now the public sector has had the homosexual demands for minority status forced upon us. State after state has rejected the demands to have them forced on them by the courts. If you fear GOD at all, then you cannot be on the side of the world and support the demands of the homosexual agenda. Why should anyone be rewarded for the way they have sex and this is exactly what is happening. To accept these demands is to tear down the very fabric of society itself. Just like if Obozo gets reelected, then more evil like this will be unleashed upon us. The day is here now, either you are on GOD’s side or the world’s side, there is no other choice.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Our society has never “rewarded” homosexuals, quite the contrary. What we should do is remove the unfair penalty these good people have endured.

      • wandamurline

        What unfair penalties. Get a copy of the Communists Manifesto of 1958 and read it….educate yourself and then you will see where the homosexual agenda is coming from. It is frightening what they have been able to do to America over the last 60 years.

      • Cliffystones

        They should be rewarded! With their own private South Seas Island!

      • Joe H.

        Doc(?),
        check out how they are treated in Iran. THEN tell me how bad they are treated HERE!

    • Robert Smith

      I’ll opt for the world side.

      “Just like the military and now the public sector has had the homosexual demands for minority status forced upon us.”

      And just wha has been “forced” upon you? Are you now forced to carry lube just in case some is needed? Are you forced to deny sex with your spouse?

      Please tell us, other than offending your brutal god, just what “changes” have been forced uon you jenersa. Any details would be appreciated.

      Rob

      • Jibbs

        How about reading stories about gay familys to third graders in Califoria.

        • sheldon

          How about reading stories about mixed race families to third graders in Alabama in the 1960s… or 70s… or 80s….

          • Angel Wannabe

            sheldon, why don’tcha do yourself and our kids a favor and push something wholesom for a change instead of what you want? Whats wrong with a traditional family?__ Oh it so old fashion, its just not cool___ , BY traditional, two parents I MEAN MAN AND WOMAN__Think about it!!!!

          • sheldon

            You mean like my family? A mom and dad and two kids… grandparents down the street. Kids playing Little League and Pop Warner football, dad’s an assistant coach and mom is a manager. We don’t eat a lot of hotdogs but we’re all very fond of apple pie. And “traditionally” my family believes in fairness and equality, and tries to stand-up to narrow-minded, god-bothering bullies like you, who when presented with facts just ignore them and keep prattling on about a “long lost gay uncle”.

          • http://naver samurai

            Mixed race couples are a whole different animal and has no bearing on the subject. Second, was your family in California? You talk about going by the Bible as narrow mindedness? Must be an atheist. Of course, most gays are. If you were my brother and you were gay, you may be disowned and cut off. My father wouldn’t even allow you in the house. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            awwww sheldly, do we have our panties in a bunch over lil’ ole me? ;)

          • http://naver samurai

            Angel:

            D’oh! :-) :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            Sheldon,
            I’ll pay attention to your facts(?) when you print actual facts! Like your bald faced lie about the exhistance of a GAY GENE!! There are no factual sites or honest research that prooves it’s exhistance!!!

    • http://jenersea@comcast.net jenersea

      States have overwhelmingly come out against homosexuals attempting to be married. GOD set up the institution of marriage as being between one man and one woman. Homosexuals cannot be married. Call it what you want, it will never be marriage. No arguement that I present will ever be accepted by any of you because you have no fear of GOD.

      • Angel Wannabe

        jenersea, I always refered to homosexuality as “Playin House” until they figured out what they wanna be!

        • twinkie1cat

          20, 30 and 40 years together is a long time to be playing house! They know what they want and that is a person that they love, are sexually attracted to and want to spend their lives with.

          • Angel Wannabe

            twinkie1cat, there is rules to every game love, you don’t get to change the rules everytime the rules don’t suit ya…….just sayin..

          • http://naver samurai

            Same old crap, different day. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Alondra

            “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, But fools despise wisdom and instruction… My son, hear the instruction of your father, And do not forsake the law of your mother; For they will be a graceful ornament on your head, And chains about your neck. My son, if sinners entice you, Do not consent.” (Proverbs 1)
            “Hear the word of the LORD, You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to the law of our God, You people of Gomorrah” (Isaiah 1)
            “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination/detestable/hateful…But you shall keep My statutes and My rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger, who sojourns among you…So keep My charge never to practice any of these abominable customs, that were practiced before you, and never to make yourselves unclean by them: I am the LORD your GOD.” (Leviticus 18:22-30)
            “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals/catamites, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
            Penis is for vagina and not for anal hole or mouse. How disgust, repugnant, averse, abominate, detestable it is. EVIL of all evils. Hell is widely open for all unrepentant fugs and satan himself invites you to his party. “Good” luck all pervert and remember that NONE of normal human been ever will accept your perversion. Bind up this testimony and seal it in your brain.

          • http://naver samurai

            Good post Alondra and thank you for your insight. Well said, true, and can never be proven wrong. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            twinki1cat says: they know what they want a person they love and are sexually attracted to.” Well, there are all sorts of people(?) out there that love and are sexually attracted to children and animals, too, should we just capitulate to them, as well??? Marriage, the joining of one man, one woman, in holy matrimony!! don’t like it? Tough! If you want to get a civil ceremony, fine, just don’t call it MARRIAGE AS IT NEVER WILL BE ONE!!

          • Alondra

            About LOVE:
            Sexual Attraction is not love and never was!

            Lust/Desire/Wish/Yearning neither is love. All these lead to adultery, fornication, which are sexual SINS.

            All poets describe desire, lust, temporary passion, but not LOVE. And only one POET gives us definition of TRUE LOVE:

            “LOVE suffers long and is kind; LOVE does not envy; LOVE does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the TRUTH; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. LOVE NEVER FAILS. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.” (1 Corinthians 13:4-8)

            True love is not about emotions. True Love is about self-sacrificing.
            True love never fails and never loses its value.
            True love seeks the highest for another person.
            True love says: I care about you, and not I wonna f**k you today, and you me tomorrow. (Sorry)
            “Love is not affectionate feeling, but a steady wish for the loved person’s ultimate good as far as it can be obtained.” C.S. Lewis
            LOVE is the greatest gift of GOD to humanity.

      • twinkie1cat

        Jenersea, who made you God? Who made you Jesus, God’s only direct spokesman? Who told you you could dictate who could be married or even what marriage is? You are like Satan when he tried to be more powerful than God and got kicked out of heaven along with all his followers.

        Each year more states accept same sex marriage because the people realize that it is the right thing to do. The hold outs seem to be those with a lot of Catholics, Pentecostals, Mormons and Baptists,and most pedophiles who have gotten caught are from one of those religious groups who also tend to embrace conservative politics. Racism, homophobia, anti-immigration, misogyny, anti-abortion and conservative politics are all part of the same puzzle.

        Quit trying to control other people’s freedom of religion!

        • Angel Wannabe

          twinkie1cat, then quit trying to shove the Gay way down our throats__You like the life style, then YOU live in it!__are ya gettin this?

          • twinkie1cat

            You need to come out of the closet. The most homophobic people there are are those who are afraid to deal with their own homosexuality. Look at “Bishop” Eddie Long and the mess he made. That bastard even held an anti-gay marriage march—in Atlanta, one of the most gay positive cities in America.

          • Angel Wannabe

            twinki doll or whateva your name is, go back in the closet and try your bullshyte with someone else, it don’t work with this chick!!__Neither do attacks____Sal Alinsky would be proud of your attempts though…Pick a target, Freeze it, Polarize it…did I forget anything?

          • sheldon

            I think you’re on to something Twinkie. Angel Wannabe and a few others keep referring to homosexuality as a “choice”. Common sense would suggest that Angel, and the other “gay as a choice” posters, are projecting their reality on everybody else. Unlike Angel and her ilk, most of the population wakes up every morning and just knows their sexuality. The only choice most people make in the morning is what they’re going to wear or what they’re going to eat. If people are “choosing” their sexuality… they’re conflicted… or in denial, and those is denial seem to shriek the loudest to ease the inner conflict.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sorry sheldy old boy, your Alinsky crap doesn’t work with me, hows that go, Pick a Target, Freeze it, Polarize it__Gotcha!!!
            I just posted that somewhere else on here! :)

          • Angel Wannabe

            and shelby, er shedly… just for the record, those who shriek the loudest comment, your mouths been going like a ducks butt with the diarrhea too, ya have no room to talk…just sayin

          • http://naver samurai

            Sheldon and twinkie just shut up and stop lying. We God fearing patriots are united and you’ll never take us with your lies, rhetoric, and innuendo. Grow up. Use some logic. To ignore the spiritual interconnectedness of existence is just plain stupid and delusional. Atheists have significantly more lifetime suicide attempts, more relatives that commit suicide, are younger, often less married, less often have children, and less contact with family members. Atheists perceive fewer reasons for living, are more impulsive, agressive, and abuse substances more often. This also sounds like the gay community. Most of which are atheists. Don’t tell me crap about them being Christians. You can’t claim to be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. Look at this report:

            http://www.restyo.blogspot.com/2011/12/gayness-and-misantrophy.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FkDMB+%28RESTY+S,+ODON%29

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            Sheldon,
            A small piece of advice. don’t walk up to most non-homosexuals and tell THEM to come out of the closet, you might not like the outcome!! you push people a little too far and you will see a REACTION! Myself? your personal opinion isn’t worth the piece of paper I wiped with today so, have at it, sonny boy!! Or is that sonny girl??

        • http://jenersea@comcast.net jenersea

          I am not GOD and I certainly did not make the rules. GOD made the rules. Just because you do not like them, does not make them wrong. GOD set up the blessing of marriage long before there were ever any religious denominations. Read the Bible, you will see the truth.

          • twinkie1cat

            I read and have read the Bible and the only references to homosexuality are in the context of IDOL WORSHIP which God is strictly against. Read it yourself, in context and with a good book along side. I suggest HOMOSEXIANTY by Rev. R.D. Weekly for its simplicity and lack of attention to Catholic tradition and the conservatism of the author. If you get more interested, you might want to contact the Reconciling Congregations Program of the United Methodist Church or read some of the books by Rev. Troy Perry, a Church of God minister who founded the Metropolitan Community Churches. Most MCC churches offer a course on Homosexuality and the Bible. You would be welcome to visit the services. There are MCC churches in many cities. You can also watch the services of Metropolitian Community Church Baton Rouge on YouTube. Rev. Keith Mozingo is a really good preacher and is from a Church of God background. Many MCC members are recovering Catholics and Church of God so it can make for some interesting blending of traditions in the services. Try the M.L. King Day service.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Twinkie girl, I read the bible several times__ if ya read the bible then you forgot to read the Part, Where God said No man shall lay with another man as he layeth with a woman….don’t ask for links or proof, you want proof find it yourself!

          • Robert Smith

            From jenersea: “Read the Bible, you will see the truth.”

            Yup, a talking snake, a talking burning bush… All sorts of fantacy to read about.

            Oh, and only two people saw the talking snake and there ain’t been one since. The talking bush… Well it was a long time before another one showed up but before that only ONE guy saw it.

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Knock off the lies Rob and Twinkie. You two are disgraces to this country.

            “Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every menber should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited. What a Utopia-what a Paradise would this region be!”

            John Adams.
            John Adams, Works, Vol. II, pgs. 6-7, diary entry for February 22, 1756.

            Since this being true, just remember Leviticus 20:13 for that answer. Stop posting lies, division, and hate. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            twinki1cat,
            suggest you look up Leviticus 18:22. “Thou shalt not lie with Mankind as with womankind: it is an abomination”!
            now please tell me where there is ANYTHING in that verse about idol worship? I happen to think it is VERY CLEAR in that it says a man will not lie with another man as with a woman. homosexuality!!

        • Angel Wannabe

          AH GEEZ TWINKIE, NOW BEING GAY IS A RELIGION?__Holy Shyte, its changin by the hour!!!!__Well I guess if your not getting anywhere spinning your agenda one way, you can always try another…huh

          • http://naver samurai

            Being gay is a religion? What do they worship? The backside of the person in front of them? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. No offense to anyone.

          • Angel Wannabe

            No Offense taken samurai actually I’m LMAO!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          Are you delusional? How can you say that people are accepting this because it is right? What kind of nonsense is that? This vocal minority is pushing their lifestyle onto people that don’t want it. The vast majority of people do not want it on the books. Can’t you get that through your head? Stop with the racism and biggotry comments. They only make you look less intelligent. As I read in a very old book, the wages of sin is death. Being gay is a sin in the eyes of God and until you wake up and realize this, you’ll feel some real heat in the end. No butts about it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai, your are killing me!!!!NO BUTTS ABOUT IT___ROFLMAO!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            I aim to please Angel. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            no, that’s the problem, there ARE butts about it!!! I hate when the state ordains a religeon and a minister(?) and then they try to re-write the bible to fit their life style. i suggest twinkletoes read the last few passages in the Bible and see what THAT will get him/her/it!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Understood. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • APN

          …..Twinkie said: Quit trying to control other people’s freedom of religion!

          Well Twinkie, just what is your religion and who appointed you as “god” over our moral code? In fact, just where do you get your moral code to pass these judgements? You seem to present yourself as superior to GOD. I’m sure all we dumb Christians will bend a knee at your presence. In fact, seems to be a common trend here that runs all the way to the WH. i.e.; The anointed one

          You seem to confuse FREEDOM of Choice as a “Collective Issue” rather than the individual choice that it is. You, as an individual, can either accept or reject GOD, your choice, not mine. Collectivism is Marxism, not Christianity. RR’s church in Chicago is a prime example of Marxist Collectivism and it is a perversion of GOD’s word.

          Just because YOU think your man made human code is superior to GOD’s WORD does not make it so. Given that, we REJECT your man made perversion as individual’s who believe that our rights and our moral code comes from a higher power. I bet that last statement ruffled your big powerful feathers, did it not? I’m sure it hair-lips King Obama as well, the master of deception, the great self-anointed “I AM”.

          Marriage is between a man and a woman and has been from the beginning of the human race, designed by the CREATOR. A man that sleeps with another man is a perversion of marriage an contrary to GOD. i.e.; Mutually exclusive

          Civil unions? Have at it but keep your perverted behavior to yourself. We don’t want to see it nor do we want it taught to our children in our public schools. In other words, gay is not OK, no more so than abortion, because it is contrary to GOD.

          • http://naver samurai

            HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • twinkie1cat

      The question is, why should anyone be discriminated against for who they have sex with?

      • Angel Wannabe

        twinkie, why should anyone give a shyte who ya sleep with, and also expect to win a prize for it??_ Like YAY I’m Gay!!!__Eyes rollin..man o man….

        • twinkie1cat

          Right, no one should care who a person sleeps with so they should not be discriminated against and should be free to let everyone meet their spouse just like a hetero couple does. And they should be free to marry, keep a good job (with the family picture on the desk) and bring their partner to any even to which spouses are invited and carry them on their health insurance along with any children they have by whatever means they choose to. That’s the whole point of equal rights.

          • Angel Wannabe

            twinkie1cat, if you want those rights then you fight for them__I ain’t helping ya! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            Show me where marriage and behavior are mentioned under the Constitution or any possitive passage from the Bible about gays, then we can go from there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            twinkletoes,
            i could give a flat crap who you sleep with or do what ever with. JUST DON’T EXPECT SPECIAL PRIVELEDGES FOR IT!!
            Example, we already have a law against assault on the books, but if you mention “homo” during the beating of a person, then it is a hate crime with special punishment. now, are you saying that homosexuals are somehow worth MORE than a hetero??? Keep a law a law. Same with murder! for two hundred years in almost every country in the world, marriage is between a man and a woman. YOU want special rights to marry a person of the same sex! WRONG! If you want a civil cereomny to make it official that this is the homo you love, fine have at it just don’t step on the beliefs of others and call it marriage!

          • APN

            Twinkie said: “The question is, why should anyone be discriminated against for who they have sex with?”

            Nobody is discriminating against gays. Marriage is between a man and a woman, so your so called discrimination is self-imposed by those who choose that perverted lifestyle.

            It is a CHOICE not a damaged gene or “Special Gene”. In fact, their is no such thing as the “gay” gene. You are not born that way.

            Children imprint on the environment their put in. It is a behavioral issue that comes from the aforesaid environment and subsequent poor choices made by the individual who does not understand the consequences of the perverted act. i.e.; Modern day progressive secular society, Poor parenting or no parenting and the primarily the absence of any moral compass…..ie.; GOD

          • Angel Wannabe

            APN, Hear Hear, The admission of GAY/LEZ lifesyles is eventually also going to have a negative impact on society in regards to reproduction.
            Having kids in a traditional family setting is also slowed by repeated abortions and birth control. And its really no wonder our old age home are filled with unwanted elderly, because the day of the Big Family is gone and the mindset of caring has diminished with it.
            Personally the ability to be “BI Sexual” and to switch from a female partner to a male partner and vis-versa, is also killing traditional marriages, there is no incentives to try and make it work_Its all perversion and were killing our own race.

          • http://naver samurai

            APN and Angel, :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTY!

  • cawmun cents

    Past the voting block,and Hollywood elitism that homosexuals represent,I doubt he(Omamba)has any use for them.
    But what do I know?
    Apparently very little……….
    -CC,

    • Robert Smith

      yes cawmun, very little.

      Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Like you, Rob? If you think that Obama bin Laden, George Soros, and others really support the gays, then you really are lost in the fog. Just like any other group, they’ll give them what they think they want and then pull the rug out from under them. Like what happened to you after you peed people off. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • twinkie1cat

      What voting bloc? Have you not heard of the Log Cabin Republicans? I know a man who is gay but is such a conservative that I strictly avoid talking politics with him. He makes me furious. He says he helped found the Teaparty in Louisiana. Yes, gay people tend toward liberal as a whole because the Republicans would kill them if they could, or at least force them to get reparative therapy so they will be “cured” and their platform is anti-gay. But some, especially in the South, are conservatives and vote Republican. If African-Americans can be conservatives so can gay people.

      • http://naver samurai

        You mean like the two large blocs of voters (Churchgoers and women) that made it possible for prohabiltion to be ammended to the Constitution? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. Why all the racial words? Why black this and black that? Classic liberal strategy of playing the race card.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Who the hell cares about your choice in bed?__Gays have the same rights as everyone else, BUT if you want to be “Breeders” and have Breeders bennies, then be the Gender you were born, its pretty simple actually. The only reason Politicians pander to “Special Interest” is VOTES & MONEY!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Actually, if their marriages are not recognized as such by the government’s laws then they do not have the same rights as heterosexuals.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Doc, Not changing my stance Bud, so forget trying!__ Rules are rules just as bennies for Heteroes are bennies for hetoroes. Its not the GUV,s business who you to choose to have a relationship with, nor is it their responsibility, to reward a participation ribbon for it. If ya choose to live oputside the norm, its your problem for not being treated in the you think is right. Ya don’t change the populations mind for that of a few!!!!!

        • Doc Sarvis

          You’re argument suggests that you would prefer the Jim Crow laws were still in place.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Ain’t got the time today doc, Grandkids are here, and they are the benefit fit of a Traditional Family and I love every minute of it!

            You and Robert and the rest of the Gay sympathizers have fun today fighting for your cause! :)

          • Robert Smith

            You dind’t answer the question about Jim Crow laws.

            Typical. Insults, run and hide, and add nothing productive, and then use kids as an excuse. Yup, sure looks like a coward to me.

            Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Rob Smith, the Candy Man, he ATTACKS!!!!!!__TE HE!

          • Deerinwater

            Angel’s attitude and perception is a normal and most common response for most people. This is what the Gay community is up against. There was a time, I shared these same views as well.

            I have soften these views some over the years as I learned more, that being Gay is not decision one makes.

            That the creator would offer them such a heavy burden to carry and then the rest of us seem most willing to beat them up for it, makes one wonder about the Divine.

            I believe that it is the heterosexual community that the creator put on trial here. I doubt if few people like Angel would slow down long enough to consider the possibility. My guess, that would be next to impossible.

          • Angel Wannabe

            DEERINWATER, I make No apologies for how I feel I thikn its wrong and that is that!__we had Gays in the family and dealt with it. They stayed to themselves mostly. But I disagree wholeheartedly about them be discriminated against as due to the law!__They are not!!!!Read my posts up farther!

          • APN

            Deerinheadlights said: “That the creator would offer them such a heavy burden to carry and then the rest of us seem most willing to beat them up for it, makes one wonder about the Divine.”

            GOD, the DIVINE, hasn’t placed a heavy burden on anyone to make bad choices in life. He simply gave us HIS law’s of moral code to live by and we can either accept it or reject it. That is a choice not a burden.

            You can reject GOD at your own peril and it has nothing to do with my salvation through Christ Jesus. This isn’t a collective god, as the modern day Marxist we have in the WH would like us to think. No more so than an individual choosing to disobey GOD’s commandments and then expecting us to “Collectively” accept it as moral behavior. It isn’t.

            GOD doesn’t make people GAY, people make people GAY, through the ruler of the world. i.e.; Satin, the evil one. You want to place blame on why people are gay, well, you got your answer, you need look no further than Lucifer himself and he is laughing all the way to the BANK, in hell.

      • twinkie1cat

        They are not recognized outside of the state where they are performed except in other states that have same sex marriage. What the federal government needs to pass is a reciprocity law that says that if same sex marriage is legal in one state then the other states have to honor it. This is the same problem that happened with interracial marriage. In some states a couple was legally married and in others they were committing a crime just by living together. There have been some messy situations where same sex couples have adopted children but both parents cannot be put on the birth certificate so the second parent is a legal stranger even if they are raising the child.

      • http://naver samurai

        Congress cannot deligate what marriages are allowed and which ones are not. That is left to the states according to the 10th Amendment. So if a state passed a law deeming gay marriage illegal, like Indiana, then they have every right to do that by the 10th Amendment right? Like Angel truthfully said, same protection under the law (Well, actually they are more protected.) and the Constitution, so what is your point in all of this? Sorry Doc, but no one gets special rights over anyone else, counting gays. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Joe H.

        Doc(?),
        They have EXACTLY the same rights as I have!! They can marry anybody of the opposite sex they so choose!! They want to cover their spouse, make sure to read the above. i can’t insure my brother or my best friend, But I CAN cover my wife as she is of the opposite sex!! If I leave everything to my wife when I die, my kids could contest it, same as with the gays. Just write up a better airtight will!!

    • David in MA

      1 Corth. 6-9.

      • Robert Smith

        “Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers.”

        Well, since “immoral” isn’t defined, same sex couples aren’t necessarily worshiping a idol, and if they are married and not cheating, it appears they are in compliance with the above.

        Yup, the christian bible allows same sex marriage.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          Sexually immoral acts are acts that are not natural or are against how God planned it. Fornicators, adulterers, gays, lesbians, bi sexuals, beastial relationships, pedifiles, etc., are covered in that passage. Also look at Collosians 3:5 where gays are called an “inordinate lifestyle.” If the Bible allows gays to enter heaven, Then I’m the King of Siam. Stop lying Rob. You’re already starting to feel the heat in the end. No butts about it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          robbie,
          I suggest you read Leviticus 18:22!!

      • Doc Sarvis

        How about 1 John 4:16.

        • Robert Smith

          And so we know and rely on the love God has for us. God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in.

          Yup, Love is what makes a family.

          Hate is NOT a family value.

          Rob

          • Doc Sarvis

            Good posts Robert.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Yepper RS__”Yup, Love is what makes a family.” said the Man as he kissed a sheep!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robert & Doc, glad to see you both agree with one another! The reality is your better off communicating amongst your Liberal selves! :)

          • Doc Sarvis

            Folks here are always going to hate it when we make good points. They can’t argue with us so they attack out of fear.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Yabba dabba dooo doc!___:)

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong Rob. Love is what holds a family together. A family is a father, mother, and kids, no exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha,! Attack out of fear? Doc, you give your traitor and coward side too much credit. Especially since it is your side that is posting hatefull messages, playing the race card (Twinkie), lying, spouting rhetoric and innuendo. Notice how also you all got more agressive as soon as someone started quoting the Bible and mentioning God. Why is that? I know. Its because you all are wrong, so you try in a futile attempt to try to look right, but you aren’t. I can only think of one quote from history that describes you, and your ilk:

            “By means of schrewd lies unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people belive that heaven is hell-and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”

            Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

            Or maybe this one:

            “…to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end.”

            Protocol 15: The Wise Elders of Zion.

            But as for me, I have sworn to something different:

            “I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same…”

            I did this when entering the army and 4 more times by re-enlisting. It seems that Rob, Doc, Sheldon, and Twinkie do not know what this means. You proggish idiots are like a 5th column in this country. The problem with that is there is someone higher up running the show, so who is telling you what to do you 4? Do you all know what a 5th column is? They are the ones supporting queer marriage, abortion, shredding the 2nd Amendment, and many other things. This is not just a debate, but a fight for this country and what it stands for. I’ve been tested under battle, have you? People like you, and your ilk, wish to keep this nation divided, well, we’ll put a stop to that. If we don’t then God and Jesus will. Hope you got your boots and helmet. This battle is just starting and you are already in retreat. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          How about Leviticus 20:13? You can’t fit God’s word into your lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist posts and beliefs. They are diametrically different. Opposite ends of the stick. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Patriot II

      Angel;
      to answer you question,….God Cares, do you care about Him?

      • Angel Wannabe

        ?

      • http://naver samurai

        What? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://liberyalearts john p.

    Obama and his change. it has to do with his christian
    and muslim up bring . the gay side must be muslim
    what a idiot .

    • Doc Sarvis

      Idiot? If I have learned anything on this site it is that Muslims kill homosexuals. You can’t have it both ways. Besides, President Obama is a Christian.

      • David in MA

        obozo is a Christian?
        ROTFLMAO!
        obozo is a muslim lying son of a british subject,
        who is illegally sitting in the presidents chair destroying America.
        Keep playing your fiddle, fool.

        • Angel Wannabe

          David in Ma, yeah I had a Belly Roll laugh on that too!

        • Robert Smith

          I didn’t realize just how close birthers and creationists are.

          Oh, and I don’t think either makes any sense.

          Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            Robert, Like we really Give a shyte!

          • http://naver samurai

            Neither do you, so what is your point? Do you even have the intellect to have a point? Another pop-up target. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Obama is now a Christian who was raised as a Muslim growing up. He has no hatred towards either group and accepts each religion as having influence in our world. He doesn’t approve of the evil perpetrated from either religion. Whether 9/11 hijackers or Muslims killing Muslims. He opposed our killing in Iraq yet went after the real perpetrators(Bin Laden).To be saying he loves Muslims more when he wants to have a war with Iran is absurd. A war with Iran would be more for the benefit of Israel not ourselves and would fall more in line with Conservative thinking.

          • http://naver samurai

            Obama bin Laden is no Christian. He even admitted that he was a muslim.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCaftMSWSzY

            Right from his own mouth and at a public speaking function. Sheesh! Seeing and hearing is believing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            Yeah sure eddie!! He’s a Christian like robbie is!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie__ did i really read you wrote “Obama is now a Christian after being raised a Muslim”__You might wish to retract that, because rumor has it that when Muslims convert to other religions, that’s a mortal sin to them, the elders do away with them….

          • http://naver samurai

            They could also have a fatah made against them. That’s a contract on their lives. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karen

        Your Potus is the most anti-Chrisitian, anti-American we have ever had in the White House you moron.

        • http://naver samurai

          Ha, ha, ha, ha! Well said. :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • David in MA

    Once again obozo lies and is wrong.
    This fool is so far into the communist
    agenda to destroy a nation he cannot tell
    the truth and has gone so far has to accept his
    misguided reality……what a unholy person he is!
    And, soros must be chuckeling with great satisfaction at his
    house boy’s obediance.

    • Doc Sarvis

      “…house boy’s obediance”. Racist comment.

      • Angel Wannabe

        What part of the comment was rasist “communist”?

        • Doc Sarvis

          I’m not a communist first and I put it in quotes (second).

        • Robert Smith

          I wouldn’t expect you to get it, boy.

          Rob

          • Angel Wannabe

            RS, just like a woman gotta have the last word!!!

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            just shut up and write the CHECK!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Care to elaborate on how DaveinMA’s post is racist? He didn’t mention any skin tone or race, now did he? Why are you trying to jump on him for it, when Twinkie played the race card farther up this thread? So it is OK for you and your ilk, hmmm? Classic liberal strategy, the misdirection or changing the subject when they are in retreat to cover their tracks. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          samurai,
          when I was in VietNam, there were women that cleaned the hootches and washed our clothes, they were called hootch maids. one of our platoons, second I believe, hired a vietnamees man to do it! Challenge him at the gate and his exact words were I am house boy for second platoon 114th! no race involved nor even insult. It was just his job title!! He was paid to be a house boy. I’d bet robbie wouldn’t make fun of him tho. Vihn had a son killed by the cong. he swore he would kill 100 cong for his son. He was at 53 close combat kills when I left country. I pray God let him live to escape!

          • http://naver samurai

            When I was was in Korea, we had women called momma san that would do your laundry and shine your boots. They did an excellent job also, but some of the troops were complaining. I asked what was wrong and they told me that momma san had starched there shorts. Talk about some chafing moments. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Karen

    66% of Americans oppose same sex marriage…25% support it….. He’s insane and unfit for office.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Where did you get that 66% figure?

      • Angel Wannabe

        DS, who cares__ you guys make up your own stats!!!! :)

        • Doc Sarvis

          Not at all. Please tell me when I have made up my figures.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Doc Sarvis__ALL stats are skewed to make the Present Admin look good__ anyone with half a brain can look around, read something beside the liberal news media and discern for themselves the stats are NOT meeting reality___C’mon man—

          • Doc Sarvis

            So you Can’t back up your acqusation…

          • Angel Wannabe

            Doc Sarvis, Nup No links, no proof, just my opinion!!! Sucks don’t it!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Your opinion? I guess it does.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Doc sarvis, you got the right no to like it and vice versa :)

          • Joe H.

            doc,
            If the majority doesn’t disagree with it, then why, in the state of california that has the LARGEST population of them, does it continually get voted DOWN???

      • http://naver samurai

        Oh, come on Doc! I don’t know the numbers either, but anyone with common sense can tell you that a vast majority of Americans do not support the gay agenda. Why do you always want to argue the opposite? Speaking of facts and numbers, care to cite a source showing that Karen is wrong, hmmm? Haven’t made that popping sound yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • twinkie1cat

    Of course real Americans support gay rights, especially the younger ones, because equality it is the right thing to do. The boomers do to, but fear being too open about it and the elderly know right from wrong and welcome the gay couples who move into their communities and help with the yard work. The only people who are against it are the modern day PHARISEES, religious right political Christians whose religion is really politics and their god themselves and their outdated rules that were eliminated when Jesus said, “It is finished”. Jesus said a whole lot about hypocrisy and discrimination but Jesus had not one word to say against gay people and the only biblical references have to same sex acts have to do with idol worship not sexual orientation. Conservative Americans seem to persistently need some group to hate, someone to look down upon, the latest version of colored people. They lost on blacks, women and people with disabilities so now the attack is on immigrants and the gay community.

    Yesterday at our evangelical Christian church we had a blessing of relationships following a sermon about love and having a pure heart that reminded us that it is not what goes into us that God cares so much about but what proceeds from our heart. We have a couple who has been through a lot of medical issues like cancer in the last couple of years, but they have held to each other for 28. The younger man his partner has been his only serious one, discovered at 20 years old. An elderly couple (the older woman is going on 70) has been through hell medically the last few years with things like strokes and back surgery and they still stand by one another, walker, canes, wheelchairs and oxygen not withstanding for 23. There are others.

    It is time for the gay community to be accepted for who they are, a diverse group of Americans (including some Republicans, by the way), who are essentially like everyone else except for who they love and want to spend their lives with and who should not be told they are second class because of that.

    And if anyone brings up pedophilia, like rape, it is a crime of violence perpetrated most of the time by heterosexual white, conservative men against little girls.

    • Angel Wannabe

      twinkie1cat__Well then, You should be in good company with robert and Doc.

      • Angel Wannabe

        BTW, Do you guys know one another? :)

        • twinkie1cat

          Not that I know of and probably would not unless they were from Atlanta or Baton Rouge.

          • Joe H.

            atlanta??? that explains it. go back underground! Probably originally from newnan!!! “The city of homes”!

    • eddie47d

      Thank you 1cat and well said. Your kindness towards others is showing. We should live through love and caring towards others and not be looking for excuses to demonize other peoples worth.That would be more in tune to the teachings of Jesus.

      • http://naver samurai

        Why are you thanking her for ed-duh? Don’t you know that what they have done is against the Bible and God? Don’t you know that the “pastor” that did those things is as big a heretic as Bishop Spong? How can you claim to be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible? I guess you are one of those that Revelation says “the falling away.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://naver samurai

      OMG! I see we are very drunk on kool aid. What a pity. Your going to burn and can care less. Tisk, tisk, tisk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Joe H.

      twinkitoes,
      Same sex marriage was against the law in all states, as well just like pedophilia and animal love is NOW. who’s to say they will stay that way?? but people that believe like you would say that if they pass a law permitting it then it’s ok, right?

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    Obamination lives in a world so clouded by his radical beliefs and his continual Lying that he can no longer tell truth from reality. He is the dumbest president to ever sit as president or as vice president, senator , dog catcher, garbage collector or sewer cleaner. Don’t mean to demean the last three occupations but I hope you get the meaning and I don’t care if two men want to Butt _uck each other I just don’t want this type of gargage forced on our children in any School anywhere it is not NATURAL just perversion.

    • http://naver samurai

      Thanks for your service, fellow patriot! Well said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Joe H.

      Viet Nam Vet 67-68.
      Vihn Long class of 70-71, eighteen months gunner/ crewchief!

  • Gman

    All this nonsense. The Bible is the INSTRUCTION MANUAL for people to live by. And it doesn’t matter that you can quote chapter and verse to make a point. It’s whether or not you adhere to it’s teachings. I believe that in one of the first five books the LORD said men were not supposed to sleep or “LIE’ with men and the dame for women. That is good enough for me. At the same time I am not against the LGBT community being afforded rights so that they can live a life like all other Americans. I just feel that they don’t need to be “MARRIED” to do that. Why can’t the Fed Govt. provide the same opportunities for them as Biblically “MARRIED” couples WITHOUT the title attached ? After all, BEFORE the onslaught of attacks against hetero’s concerning their aversion to the notion of the LGBT being married, that group was living their lives according to their notion of what was right for them. Only when it came to the accrual of BENEFITS for the “couples” did this major movement take on a head of steam. So, what’s really the issue ? That two people of the same sex love and want to be with each other, or “why can’t I get benefits when my wife (who is the top) is sick?”, or vice-versa for two men living in the same type of arrangement. I am really curious as to which reason is the focal point of this debate.

  • Gman

    All this nonsense. The Bible is the INSTRUCTION MANUAL for people to live by. And it doesn’t matter that you can quote chapter and verse to make a point. It’s whether or not you adhere to it’s teachings. I believe that in one of the first five books the LORD said men were not supposed to sleep or “LIE” with men and the same for women. That is good enough for me. At the same time I am not against the LGBT community being afforded rights so that they can live a life like all other Americans. I just feel that they don’t need to be “MARRIED” to do that. Why can’t the Fed Govt. provide the same opportunities for them as Biblically “MARRIED” couples WITHOUT the title attached ? After all, BEFORE the onslaught of attacks against hetero’s concerning their aversion to the notion of the LGBT being married, that group was living their lives according to their notion of what was right for them. Only when it came to the accrual of BENEFITS for the “couples” did this major movement take on a head of steam. So, what’s really the issue ? That two people of the same sex love and want to be with each other, or “why can’t I get benefits when my wife (who is the top) is sick?”, or vice-versa for two men living in the same type of arrangement. I am really curious as to which reason is the focal point of this debate.

    • twinkie1cat

      The Levitical Holiness Code applied to the priests from the tribe of Levi who were the keepers of the Holy of Holies, did not own property and lived off the donations of the other Hebrew tribes. They had special rules that were to keep them pure and separate. However, “lying with a man as you would with a woman” would indicate that the person would be interested in both sexes. If you are going to apply the Levitical Holiness Code you would also have to kill your mother if she wore a dress made of two fabrics (cotton/polyester would be a modern one) and kill your son if he was desrespectful or a drunk or your daughter if she had sex outside of marriage. There are a bunch of other rules as well. But when Jesus, on the cross said, “It is finished” the world entered a different relationship with the Creator, one of Grace and not of Law because the Messiah had come. “Old things are passed away and all things become new”, he explained. Even though the Jews did not acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah, something strange happened. Animal sacrifices ceased in the temple. They were no longer needed.

      • http://naver samurai

        That was for everyone, not just the priests. If you have read the Bible, you’ll see that they even took a woman and a man, that was caught in adultery, and ran them through with a spear. They were not priests. What was said in Leviticus was the Law and how they should live and do things, not just the priests. Everyone. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://naver samurai

      Well said Gman. Very well said, but don’t expect these 5th columners to understand what you are saying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Angel Wannabe

    Okey dokey enuff for today, only a few folks on here who believe in the lord worth talking too anyway :)___Just for the record, God said Homosexuality is a abomination, I’m with him wether old fashioned or NOT, knock yourselves out with that.__ I Never understood the Gay life style and never will, don’t bother me with the born that way stuff either, Its ALL A CHOICE!__Frankly its disgusting, yuck!!!__I don’t care if you sympathizers like it or not. Rules don’t change just because it doesn’t meet with your criteria!!! TTFN! :)

    • Doc Sarvis

      I am for Personal Liberty which is why I am on this site AND why I stand up for consenting adult couples who love and care for each other be they man and woman, woman and woman, or man and man.

      • APN

        How about a man and a dog? Robert would like the answer to that one.

        • Joe H.

          APN,
          They always seem to avoid that one!! Or they just say it’s illegal. Well so was same sex marriage in all states now look. The camels nose, bud, the camels nose!!

          • APN

            Absoultely! That is what “Progressive” is all about. A progressive road to hell.

      • http://naver samurai

        Personal liberty is endowed by their Creator (GOD), so what does God say about gays in His Word, the Bible, hmmm? You 5th columners don’t believe in personal liberty, just anarchy and chaos. I guess you all really are obedient to your masters pulling your strings. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • APN

          …and that is an understatement Samurai!

          • http://naver samurai

            :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Carrobin

    Whoever says homosexuality is a choice knows nothing about it. Some people want to stick with the ancient Hebrew rules against it, though they probably wouldn’t stone their grandmother for wearing forbidden fabrics and it’s quite possible that they have no problem eating pork chops. My best friend (we met in grammar school 40 years ago) has often said that if it were a choice, he’d have been straight, but although he dated the beautiful blonde Homecoming Queen when we were in high school, he knew it was wrong for him. Forget about what “God said” other people should do and consider that beam in your own eye.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Carrobin, excuses, excuses!__Choices and more choices!__I could care less what you choose, but stop telling THOSE THAT DON’T BELIEVE IN THE GAY LIFESTYLE, TO ACCEPT IT, BECAUSE I DON’T AND DON’T HAVE TO!
      Yep I’m old Fashioned, homophobe or whatever name you wish to call me__Bring it on! :) Have a great day!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Gay rights supporters do not want gay marriage simply for the privileges it provides. If that were the case they could simply go after the right to a civil union. They don’t want a civil union. They want to tear down the institution of marriage and redefine it. They want to pervert it. Watch the movie “The Agenda”. It’s all part of the plan. Sorry to say…they’re winning.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Nancy agreed!__They may be winning now, But GOD will have the last word, you and I fear him, they don’t.

          • APN

            They are winning, in an earthly state of mind. Spiritually however, their lost and will pay dearly in the end, with their soul. That is the issue Christians have with the homosexual lifestyle. It is perverted and contrary to GOD. Same goes with abortion, it is murder and is contrary to GOD.

            Marriage is between a man and a woman, has been for 1,000′s of years. In fact, marriage is “Holy Matrimony” by our Christian teachings. Given that, homosexuality and marriage are mutually exclusive, because it is contrary to the creators design of the human race.

            Holy and immoral behavior are mutually exclusive as well. Being homo is only one of many sins that are contrary to GOD, as in MURDER, coveting thy neighbors wife or house or car, lies and deceit, theft, etc etc etc In other words, being homo is just one of many that will get you a ticket to eternal hell, both here on earth and the afterlife.

            A man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Satin has mastered many and without GOD, well, you are defenseless.

            Bottom line, as a Christian, we are supposed to hate the sin and love the sinner. That does not imply that we are to accept perversion as acceptable behavior no more so than we are to accept murder or theft as an acceptable behavior.

            Pretty simple stuff unless you do not know GOD.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Well said APN, very well said! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Joe H.

            APN,
            Only a couple could have said it better. One was nailed to a cross!!

    • http://naver samurai

      Ah yes, another 5th columner has joined the fray, but to no avail. What you have posted has been overused and refuted many times on this site. Care to come up with some new material? All of you sound the same as if someone handed you a paper and you just brainlessly type what is in front of you. Instead of attacking the God of our fathers and founders, why don’t you go back to church. You really sound like you need to. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Bob Marshall

    The Lord rained down fire and burning sulfur from the sky on Sodom and Gomorrah. He utterly destroyed them. The men in Sodom called the angels out whom the Lord had sent to remove Lot and his family because of the wickedness.Sodomy, which is homosexual sex takes its name from the city of Sodom.How can anyone call themselves a Christian if they approve of homosexual sex when God called it an abomination?

  • Buck

    Much of the public do support gay rights , they are the immoral , the perverts , the ignorant , and the insane . But have those groups become the majority ? By the way , I think Obamass is just as insane as Lincoln was , so they really are sympatico .

  • 45caliber

    The gay public certainly does. Most of the blacks do not and many Americans do not. I have no problem with gays (or anyone else) having the same rights that I do as long as they do not insist that I have to change my religion and as long as they allow me the same rights they have. But many of these bills to help the gays are actually meant to give them additional rights the rest of us do not have. I hardly believe that most of the American public backs Oblama’s moves.

    • http://naver samurai

      Right on, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Deerinwater

    It’s a “dividing ” issue, ~ that is it’s purpose to divide and distract.

    Distract so the really serious issue of the day are ignored and not addressed.

    Homosexual tendencies is an anomaly of nature and have been constantly recurring since recorded history, there is no medical cure or miracle cure. There some circuits wired backward in the brain. There then that, they are very normal in every way. In fact, this condition has required them to develop advanced “coping skills” that far exceed the average person. They are extreme bright people, well above the normal.

    You don’t have to agree, you don’t have to accept or understand. But there nothing that you or I can do about it other then restrict homo’s at every opportunity.

    They are asking for equal rights granted to all American by the Constitution and offer no apology for God’s little trick of fate and twisted sense of humor. I can’t say that I blame them.

    If you are thinking that they might just “go away”, your mistaken.

    We are reaching the point in the presidential campaign where we will be bombarded with these “dividing issues” , there will be “no answers”
    offered, no one is looking for any.

    The Bankers, look on in mild amusement, just glad it’s not taking place in their lobby and they can come & go & do what bankers enjoy doing, screwing you over at every turn in the road.

    • http://naver samurai

      You mean like Soddom and Gomorrah? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. We all know what happened to Soddom and Gomorrah when God got angry with them, hmmm?

    • Joe H.

      deermakingwater,
      prove your statements about homosexuality. for it to be an anomaly, it has to be genetic. The gene doesn’t exhist!! It’s a CHOICE!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Joeh, this all goes back to my statement that, whatever is perverse,ie Gay, Beastiality or bad behavior, is called a disease or a mental problem, then they give pills or therapy to excuse a persons own accountibility of the behavior. Its nothing but a push for angenda to destroy, the traditional Family, God and adapt and “Anything goes lifestyle_anything good this Lib crowd wants to destroy’! LUCIFER 101

  • Don

    Obama and larry fitzgerald may have had homosexual liasons, and of course him being part of that movement, does’nt speak for any of the americans i know.He wants your votes happy boys. He already has the union vote.

  • Don

    I meant to say Larry Sinclair. sorry

  • G.B.

    Some more of his good ol’ lies.

    • Joe H.

      GB,
      i would like a little more than your word that Larry lied. Got a site to prove he lied??

      • Joe H.

        scuse me, that should be Don not Larry!

  • H. D. Schmidt

    Why this discussion? Yes, the result of America’s ever deeper in love with Socialism/Communism.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    I think the President is right. I know there is opposition to his efforts but I would agree the public supports his desire for equality. Support for equal rights for all is a very noble cause.

    • http://naver samurai

      They want special rights that others do not have, that is a problem. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Robert Smith

        samurai declares: “They want special rights that others do not have, that is a problem.”

        What “special” rights?

        How does what they do impact you in any way?

        Looks to me like your using your bible babble as an excuse to hate and deny other Americans equality.

        Rob

        • Angel Wannabe

          Robbie my boy, give it up!__Equal rights my azz!_Gays have the same rights as the rest of us. Thats the biggest lie there is._I’ll keep repeating its an agenda. There has been a push on to stop everything right, good and true and replace it with and “anything goes mentality”
          As for RIGHTS, PUH-lease…I buried Grandparents, Parents, Brother, Aunts and Uncles and dealt with the legalities and wills there of. All them had listed items, property and the like spelled out, of what went to whom, makes no difference if those so named were family or not!and the only way it could be changed, if Family contested anything.___Your argument has crashed and is BS!__Same for Powers of Attorney, Insurances, deeds, anything__Forget it Robbie, you lose!
          Your agenda is to get us to accept the Gay life style ans WE DON’T!

          • Kinetic1

            Angel,
            Your stuck in a loop. The question is about the rights of a partner when no will has been drawn up, yet you keep arguing that anyone, gay or not will receive what was left them in the will. THERE IS NO WILL! That is the starting point of the discussion. Telling us about your gay Uncle’s will is pointless. THERE IS NO WILL! You can argue that homosexual couples should go right out and have a will drawn up, and that’s good advise for anyone, but the facts are that in most states a gay partner does not share the same rights as a spouse.

          • libertytrain

            I think you are kind of stuck here. If these two people, who care so much for each other didn’t take the time to get their affairs in order to protect each other, they weren’t too bright to begin with. Staight or gay…. But particularly the gays because if this person is so important it would be handled with the i’s dotted and t’s crossed to insure each was protected.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Kinectic if your stoopid enough to be in a long term relationship without a will, you deserve to get or NOT GET___Nobody’s gonna do it for you___Stop the lies, its BS and ANYONES NAME CAN AND DOES GO ON ANYTHING FRON INSURANCE TO WILLS to DEEDS, its amtter of spelling it out______Your hollaring discrimination when there is none__its your AGENDA YOUR PUSHING!___All BS!__Waz the matter K don’t like being outted?

          • APN

            Well said Angel, This entire topic of discussion is nothing more than the progressives continual political agenda to destroy the family first, then America and then GOD.

            They will in all probability be successful in destroying America, if more people like you and I don’t stand up and be counted. However; destroying GOD is an impossibility and they will ultimately have to face the very GOD that they despise.

            Their self-imposed fate is absolute and their judgement by the very GOD they hate will be inescapable.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            APN I have no desire to destroy anyone. All I believe is that as consenting adults people should have the right to marry someone who is the same sex if that is their orientation. I don’t see how that could destroy America or family. I believe homosexuality is not a choice and therefore only involves those who are homosexual. Its any ones right to disagree or be against homosexuality. It may not be your cup of tea. But I don’t believe it measures up to a threat that could destroy or for that matter even do harm to either our country or to family values. I have always felt everyone has a right to be themselves no matter what. As such I don’t see how wanting to recognize homosexuals as equals is such a bad thing.

          • APN

            Jeremy, I’m sure your individual agenda is not to destroy America, however, the progressive’s agenda IS to destroy America. Anyone who would deny that fact is just plain naive.

            Marriage is between a man and a woman and has been since the beginning of creation. In fact, it is Holy Matrimony blessed by GOD. If you enter into a relationship that is not blessed by GOD, then it will not last.

            We are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. As I stated earlier in this post, than does not imply that we Christians are to accept perverted behavior or murder or theft, etc etc etc We reject it now and will continue to reject it and no amount of Progressive coercion or bullying will change that fact. In other words, keep your perverted behavior to yourself. We don’t want to see it and we do not want our children exposed to it nor do we want “gay is OK” taught in our schools.

            If you want your “Civil Unions”, well, have at it, but it IS NOT MARRIAGE because it is contrary to GOD’s creation.

            In fact, any man that would have intercourse with another man is a sick individual and needs help.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said APN, fellow patriot! They just don’t get it, these 5th columners. They just want to keep this nation divided and away from more important concerns of the day like, the economy, jobs, abortion, the national debt, and so many others. The gays do have the same God given rights, written in the Constitution, but they wany special rights also. Like I told these people before, they can marry anyone they want. There partner just needs to be of the OPPOSITE SEX. They just fail to see the logic. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jeremy Leochner

            The problem APN is that I am a progressive and as you said my agenda isn’t to destroy America. How can I be a progressive and not be trying to destroy America. As to progressive bullying I don’t wish to bully anyone. In regards to school and children the problem I have is I see children being bullied simply for being gay. More over I see children who are mistaken for being gay who are bullied just the same. The idea of “gay is okay” is not to encourage people to be homosexual. It’s to teach children and everyone not to judge and hurt others based simply on what they think of them. It’s not a crime to be gay and people who are gay shouldn’t be treated as though it is. I am not gay and cannot speak for what gay people feel. All I know is people have a right to be who they are and we shouldn’t judge without getting to know them first.

          • APN

            Jeremy said: “APN I have no desire to destroy anyone.”

            I beg to differ, if you are a progressive, then you are part of the Marxist Agenda to destroy America.

            _____________________________________________________________________
            “All I believe is that as consenting adults people should have the right to marry someone who is the same sex if that is their orientation. I don’t see how that could destroy America or family.”

            That would depend on what your definition of family is? Are you suggesting that two human beings make a family? A family is the result of two people of the opposite sex having children through holy matrimony. How do you propagate? How do two people of the same sex have children resulting in a family? So again, your concept of family is misguided, self-destructive and contrary to GOD’s creation.

            _____________________________________________________________________

            ” I believe homosexuality is not a choice and therefore only involves those who are homosexual. Its any ones right to disagree or be against homosexuality. It may not be your cup of tea.”

            Homosexuality IS A CHOICE, just like murder is a choice or theft is a choice. People are not born gay. In fact, people are not born anything other than babies that need to be taught right from wrong. Given that, why would you teach a baby to be perverted? Why would you teach a baby to lie, cheat and steal or murder? The fruit my friend doesn’t fall far from the apple tree.

            _____________________________________________________________________

            ” But I don’t believe it measures up to a threat that could destroy or for that matter even do harm to either our country or to family values. I have always felt everyone has a right to be themselves no matter what.”

            I think you are confusing your FREEDOM to do as you please with the freedoms GOD gives us to make wise choices in life. Given your concept of FREEDOM, then it should be acceptable to KILL another man or rape his wife, etc etc etc. You did say that correct?: “Everyone has a right to be themselves no matter what”.

            Again, the progressive mindset is destructive and is contrary to GOD.
            That is why you progressives are trying to force America into being a secular society. You must first destroy family values and then ultimately remove GOD from our culture before your agenda can be completed.

            ____________________________________________________________________

            ” As such I don’t see how wanting to recognize homosexuals as equals is such a bad thing.”

            That statement is illogical and is mutually exclusive. How can you recognize homos and hets as equals? They are not equal, never have been and never will be. If they were, then you would either have all homos or all hets, correct?

            Equal under the law, well, of course. Nobody ever said that homos don’t have equal rights under the law. Marriage is between a man and a woman, so for someone who chooses to be gay, well, they have removed themselves from the right of marriage, not by us.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said APN, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          robbie,
          you mean to tell me that a hate crime law isn’t SPECIAL RIGHTS? Or do you truly believe you gays are worth more than a hetero? We already have laws on the books for murder and assault, why special laws for hetero on gay? I can’t cover my brother on my insurance, why should any guy be able to cover another unrelated MAN or a woman cover any other un related woman?

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Samurai how is wanting to have a lawful ceremony to express ones love to their significant other a special right?

        • Angel Wannabe

          Jeremy, Don’t tell me that crap, I DJ and we did a Gay Wedding of a Lesbian couple some 6 years ago…

        • http://naver samurai

          To ask for something to be performed that is unnatural and against the will of God and the people, does take special rights. Don’t tell me they love each other. Love is to be between a man and a woman only. No exceptions! No excuses! If this is true, then why can’t a man marry his dog, donkey, horse, cat, etc? Why can’t a man be married to 2 or more wives or a woman 2 or more husbands? I know Dennis Rodman had a wedding ceremony showing him marrying the City of New York, but please lay off of the queerish stuff. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Well Samurai. As to love being between man and women I would say for the sake of argument love can be between more than just man and women. Familial love knows no gender boundaries. Semantics aside as to your point on marriage. My view is of a marriage between two consenting adults. Marriage between a human and an animal is greatly different then marriage between two human beings of legal consenting age. As for multiply wives or husbands I would agree that such an idea goes against the ideal of marriage. What I believe is marriage between two people who are homosexual who are of legal consenting age is not all that different from two heterosexuals of legal consenting. The ceremony is still based on love and mutual consent. Though the genders may have become optional the premise and sanctity of the ritual remains the same.

          • http://naver samurai

            It can never be a marriage, as this goes against nature and nature’s God. Call it a civil union, but it can never be a real marriage. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai, we were actually torn about it & hated doing the Ceremoney, but she was a neighbor for a long time__The fire company where the reception was, treated us like inmates…. Right then and there the Old man and I decided to opt out of Gay Ceremonies. We’ve turned several of the same type ceremonies down since. Ya can’t claim to hate something, but then turn around and then support it monetarily. We don’t like it, don’t support it and don’t want to be hypocrites.
            ….and before any of you sympathizers say now we know what the gays feel like, they can stop it like we did__walking away, is the way!

          • http://naver samurai

            This was a good display of courage by walking out. If I was at your house, I’d give you both a medal for such courage. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            samurai, don’t misunderstand me, we did not walk out on our obligation to her, and her (tongue in cheek), WIFE! We finished their ceremoney, but we simply decided to decline any further such ceremonies. In fact we stopped weddings all together, so no one would feel bad.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry if I misunderstood what you’ve said Angel. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Joe H.

          Jeremy,
          THAT would be accurately covered by a civil union!! It wouldn’t have to be a “marriage”!!! All the other problems like insurance, visitation in the hospital, inheritance, even adoption could be covered by it. THEY DON’T NEED A MARRIAGE!! they just want to rub it in our noses and cause trouble!!

          • APN

            Well put JoeH! That is the crux of the matter in it’s entirety!

          • Jeremy Leochner

            I can respect that. Maybe the issue is that homosexuals don’t want their own special ceremony. They want a lawful marriage ceremony. Not just a “civil union”.

          • http://naver samurai

            It can never be a marriage. No matter how much they whine. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Angel Wannabe

      Jeremy L, We ALL have the same rights, its not our fault those that lose out because of lack of knowledge!__GaYs rights are an agenda used, to push the acception of Gays to those of us who think its wrong._ You can will/give or leave anything to anyone your in a relationship with!
      ___There a major push on the squash Christianity/religion. Destroy Christianity, then its easier to kill whats left of the Constitution, kill the Constitution, we become pawns of the UN.

      • Kinetic1

        Angel,
        Fortunately, those of us who believe Homosexual couples should have the same rights as married heterosexual couples out number those who share your views. It may take a while for Congress to get on board, but it’s inevitable. As for your claim that this is all part of an effort to “squash Christianity/religion”, only those who would seek to force their particular religious beliefs on all Americans share such fears. The Constitution does not require Christianity to survive. In fact, the stipulation of Christianity as the religion of the United States would do more to weaken the Constitution than if there were no religion at all.

        • Angel Wannabe

          KINECTIC, YOU lie about ALL OF THIS!__YOUR WORDS<-..Fortunately, those of us who believe Homosexual couples should have the same rights as married heterosexual couples out number those who share your views. It may take a while for Congress to get on board, but it’s inevitable."
          oF TWO PEOPLE WANNA BE TOGETHER THEN TO THE LAWYER AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF__PRETTY SIMPLE- EH?__YOUR PUSHING AN AGENDA TO HAVE GAYS ACCEPTED, I KNOW IT SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE, IT AIN'T GONNA FLY, BUT I AM__TIME FOR SOME GRUB____IT'LL BUY SOME TIME TO THINK OF ANOTHER PLAN OF ATTACK!!–TEHE :)

        • http://naver samurai

          First of all, the Constitution is not a living document. Second, how can the Constitution be the same without Christianity? It was Judeo-Christian beliefs that this country was founded on. God is mentioned in our founding documents, memorials, and a Bible verse is found on the Liberty Bell, so how could it stand without Christianity? I agree with Angel as this is an agenda to destroy traditional marriage and recognize things that are unnatural and perverted. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path! Down with the 5th columners! Down with the traitors! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          More people support queerish marriage than those that don’t? Care to cite a source showing the exact numbers that do and don’t support them? Crickets! Darned crickets! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Jay

          Kinetic: Fortunately, those of us who believe Homosexual couples should have the same rights as married heterosexual couples out number those who share your views. It may take a while for Congress to get on board, but it’s inevitable.

          I agree, Kinetic1, it is, inevitable; but so is the destruction of our society. Although, as in the historical past, the destruction of societies was not the direct result, or solely due to rampant homosexuality, nevertheless, homosexuality is found to be one of the key ingredients, or symptom/plague, or sign, if you will, of the impending destruction of a nation, that imbibes, and flirts with such a hideous virus, homosexuality. Our nation is truly sick, and in dire need of rescue, Kinetic1!

    • Angel Wannabe

      J,_ There is equal rights across the board, you just choose believe the progressive perpetual lie, all one needs to do is go to a lawyer and set it in place!!!

  • Cliffystones

    So, some of you have commented that being homosexual is not a “lifestyle choice”. Then what is it? Is it a difference in the genetic make-up of those individuals who practice this behaviour? Is it toxins in the environment? Global Warming? Just asking.

    I’m of the opinion based on personal, long term, up close observation that it is genetic. More precisely a genetic mutation. Not unlike a club foot or a cleft palate. Let’s face it, the plumbing wasn’t meant to work that way, at least as far as Mother Nature is concerned. Like any other ‘birth defect” a cure and/or treatment should be researched.

    Now, before any of you go comparing me to Dr. Mengele, let me add that such research should only involve willing participants. The human genome has been mapped supposedly, so let’s attempt to find out what what gene(s) have to to with “sexual preference”. Then maybe those who would prefer to live a hetrosexual life can be given that choice.

  • randycrawford

    Murder used to be a good thing in the Stone Age. He who killed the most prospered the most, at someone else’s expense. Similarly, those who stole and raped the most prospered the most. Those who didn’t murder, rape, and steal suffered by Darwinian selection, while those who did the most murdering, raping, and stealing transmitted the most genes down to modern times. That’s why today, unless a person uses their recently-evolved frontal lobes to overcome baser instincts, many humans still tend toward criminal behavior. Failing to have sufficient frontal lobe anatomy that is educated properly yields a default to primitive behavior that represents a lack of control from the olden says. This is known as an atavism. Another atavism is homosexuality and/or transitioning back and forth amongst hetero/bi/homosexual behavior. Although homosexuality serves no useful purpose in the modern era, it was formerly useful when we were hunter-gatherers. When the men were out hunting and warring for days at a time, the tribe’s survival required functional eunuchs to be left back at the cave to guard the harem and the brood. No one but a fool would leave another healthy normal caveman alone with his womenfolk and kids for any length of time. There was thus a Darwininan selection for some of each tribe to be set aside with male muscles for tending to the women’s safety when the fully functional men weren’t there, and at the same time there was Darwininan selection for some of the women to be set aside from pregnancy as lesbians so they were available to help with childcare in an environment of saber-toothed tigers and cave bears. Thousands of years ago, there weren’t babysitters available at the other end of non-existent phones, and very few lived long enough to be grandparents. Once humans developed agriculture, stable food sources, villages, and civilization, the advantages of paleolithic strategies such as murder, rape, stealing, and homosexuality became obsolete. Agriculture and its derivatives have been around only a few thousand years, and so the prehistoric genes for prehistoric behavior have not yet had time to evolve away. That’s why today we still see murder, rape, stealing, and homosexuality. These behaviors exist today because in the recent evolutionary past they conferred selective competitive advantage under Darwininan evolution. Criminal behavior can be controlled, but only if people have educated frontal lobes, or if they are kept in jail.

  • Angel Wannabe

    as per homosexuality in the military….

    “While the issue of homosexuals in the military has only recently become a point of great public controversy, it is not a new issue; it derives its roots from the time of the military’s inception. George Washington, the nation’s first Commander-in-Chief, held a strong opinion on this subject and gave a clear statement of his views on it in his general orders for March 14, 1778:

    At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778), Lieutt. Enslin of Colo. Malcom’s Regiment [was] tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false accounts, [he was] found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and [we] do sentence him to be dismiss’d [from] the service with infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with abhorrence and detestation of such infamous crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of camp tomorrow morning by all the drummers and fifers in the Army never to return; The drummers and fifers [are] to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose. 1
    General Washington held a clear understanding of the rules for order and discipline, and as the original Commander-in-Chief, he was the first not only to forbid, but even to punish, homosexuals in the military.

    • Angel Wannabe
      • http://naver samurai

        Good job fellow patriot! I have this source and have posted it on this site before. Unfortunately, the 5th columners attacked it as showing hate. I won’t tell you how I responded to the morons then. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. Many of my sources and quotes come from that site.

        • Angel Wannabe

          samurai, David Barton is one the finest historians today, hes a walking time line__I love to listen to David B and G Beck together!

          Davids site IS the only site I go to for sources on history, there is only a few I trust that I know isnt revised._-Take Care

          • Angel Wannabe

            Samurai another thing,_ people only attack you, when your onto something good!__Remember that! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            Angel :-) :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • gemmom

    Obama doesn’t believe in the Bible, so that’s where the problem is, and apparently neither do the rest of the individuals who feel same sex is okay. Believing in the Bible is the same as believing in God, and visa versa, for one cannot believe in one and not the other. Man cannot serve two masters. And so, they pervert the ways of God, and refuse to read the Bible, and refuse to pray to God for the truth. They also have over-ridden their conscience and have literally denied God. They don’t believe there will come a day of recognition, where they will fully come to recognize their faults which are against God. Of course, no unclean thing can come before God or receive His Spirit, so they have placed a barrier between themselves and God because of their sins. Therefore, Repentance is the only way they will be able to receive any guidance from the Spirit, for sinners cannot receive the things of God, and if they do receive something, it is from some other source, not from God.

    • James

      Jesus also said (Mt. 7:6): “Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you.”

  • Anne Tyler

    Try defending our borders and supporting our Constitution if you want to be “so American”. I think Obama is deluded about where the country is with him.

    • APN

      I concur, 100%!!!

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    If the United States were realy UNITED… There wouldn’t be Seperate State Laws!

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