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Obama Says He Will ‘Just Keep On Following’ Jesus

August 22, 2012 by  

Obama Says He Will ‘Just Keep On Following’ Jesus
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Posters made and hung by Israeli right-wing extremists depict President Barack Obama in an Arab kaffiyah headdress on a billboard in downtown Jerusalem.

Amid criticism from even his liberal friends, President Barack Obama says he takes comfort in knowing that he is loved. “First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise: that I am loved,” the President said in a recent interview with Washington National Cathedral magazine.

Obama said his faith has influenced his ideas about healthcare, a similar statement to that which he made about his stance on same-sex marriage.

“Faith tells us that there is something about this world that ties our interest to the welfare of a child who can’t get the health care they need, or a parent who can’t find work after the plant shut down, or a family going hungry,” Obama said.

The President also said that those who doubt he is a Christian should just look at his life.

“I have a job to do as president, and that does not involve convincing folks that my faith in Jesus is legitimate and real. I do my best to live out my faith, and to stay in the Word, and to make my life look more like His,” he said.

“What I can do is just keep on following Him, and serve others—trying to make folks’ lives a little better using this humbling position that I hold.”

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • Harold Olsen

    He’ll continue to follow Jesus, huh? Is that why he said on ABC a year or so back that he is guided by his Muslim faith? No Christian would make such a statement, even by accident.

    • http://www.facebook.com/longfellow.walker Longfellow Walker

      These politicians too often forget that there are people out there that have a memory …good on you for remembering that.

      • http://google gary gerke

        Your right, however, your wrong at the same time. The majority of Americans can’t remember yesterday, let alone two years ago. They believe what the MSM is saying at the moment!

      • FreedomFighter

        Radical Islam Joins the DNC

        http://www.redstate.com/breeanneh/2012/08/21/radical-islam-joins-the-dnc/

        I do not believe Obama, everything he does is the exact opposite of a Christian whom follows Jesus. Obama supports gay marriage, attacks the church and its doctrines, attacks the bible in speeches all the while quoting the KORAN (yes i can spell it with a Q but wont).

        Obama is known liar, something Islam encourages toward infidels (Americans) to achieve the Islamic goals of conquest. His friends and supporters to a large degree will have nothing to do with christianity or its tenents.

        Obama is a liar, a usurper and in my opinion evil.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Kate8

        Freedom Fighter – I am listening to a patriot militia briefing right now. Apparently Gen. Valele has confirmed this:

        Obama is ignoring the Constitution because he has, in fact, established a CALIPHATE in America. There are Islamic forces awaiting the signal to move.

        The head of the Caliphate is absolute. And, his intent is to eliminate all Christians and Jews. Quoting Biblical prophecy is being treated as mental illness, and that is why they are detaining that veteran who posted on facebook. He is still locked up. They are setting precedent for detaining patriots and Christians.

        There is no doubt that Obama is a Muslim, and he intends to establish sharia in America. If he manages to get another term, it will be permanent. And, he will not hesitate to cause a false flag to declare martial law. We are already under martial law, anyway.

        He has halted all moves against illegals coming to America, and many of them are Islamic. There are reasons for everything he’s done, and they are not to protect Americans.

    • Randy131

      “First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise: that I am loved,” I wonder who wrote these words for Obama, and if he read them off a tele-prompter, as he usually does? Obama has never been a Christian, but can be described by the same word Jesus describe many of the Pharisees as, to Jesus a foreigner’s word of Greek origin, which meant one who pretends through acting, HYPOCRITE, a word that has never been in the Jewish language. The word’s definition, and use by the Greeks, is the same as we use the word ‘ACTOR’ today. But because of all of Obama’s ‘slip ups’ concerning his true religious beliefs, he has shown he is no better at ‘ACTING’ than he is as being our President.

      • Smilee

        He has consistently said he is a Christian and has never claimed to be anything else but few on here ever listen to what he actually says but do listen to those that spin what he says and repeat that over and over again.

      • Kate8

        Since O could in no way be a Christian follower of Yeshau (he speaks continually with forked tongue), he must be referring to the Muslim concept of Jesus, who returns to bow to Allah and to help the Mahdi slaughter all Christians and Jews.

        For everyone who thinks Obama is a “lightworker”, remember how we are told that “you will know them by their fruits”. Obama is a consummate liar. There is only one who is the Father of Lies. Yeshua stood firmly in Truth.

        The fact is, he’s setting up Christian and conservative patriots to be the target of NDAA. The Patriot Act, which he has expanded on, was a joke on patriots, as it was meant to target THEM.

        Don’t forget, Lucifer is often called the Light Bearer.

      • Charles C

        Your right Randy, when he thinks he’s not being heard, the real truth comes out about his religious beliefs. Even satan knows the word of God, and uses it to distort the truth, he’s a master of it, and Usama is his student. Pray for the muslims, God loves them too, but they have to make the choice to believe or continue on their road to destruction.

      • DoloresRose

        Muslims believe in Jesus and Mary. So you could say, if nothing else, he is cunningly right, but this is not truth as they are no where near being Christian.

      • Flashy

        Let’s see..he was baptized christian, he was raised by his grandparents who were christian, he was married in a christian wedding, he attended a christian school, his kids attend church and he attends church and he regularly quotes from the bible,

        Hmmmm….. seems to me he is of the faith.

        Did anyone read the entire interview? What about the interview do you object to?

        Of course, Mr. Livingston has stated a christian is one who attends weekly services…in that case, we have far fewer christians in this nation than one is advertised as being. I’d say 20% or less of population.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          You write: “Of course, Mr. Livingston has stated a christian is one who attends weekly services…” Another misrepresentation. You are a deceiver. I stated that a Christian would not forsake the assembling of saints, as Obama has done. Romans 10:24-25 (ESV) “And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.”

          I, of course, don’t expect you to get it correct in the future as you have proven time and again your objectives are lies and deceit.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • momof7

        I suppose you know the heart of a man?

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston;

        i am not stating you are telling a falsehood…but i do know that at one time in the past when “what is a christian’ was being discussed in a thread, you stated, and I was astounded so had asked to be certain, that a christian attended weekly services. It is no lie nor error.

        As for your description and opinion of me, i forgive you in the christian manner.

        Thank you.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          You write: “but i do know that at one time in the past when “what is a christian’ (sic) was being discussed in a thread, you stated, and I was astounded so had asked to be certain, that a christian (sic) attended weekly services.” Not I, but God (see Romans 10:24-25).

          You write: “It is no lie nor error.” What is a lie and in error is your previous statement: “Mr. Livingston has stated a christian (sic) is one who attends weekly services.” That is clearly not what I said.

          You write: “As for your description and opinion of me, i forgive you in the christian (sic) manner.” As I have not wronged you by simply describing your history, I do not seek or need your forgiveness.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Palin16

        Barack Hussein Obama never stepped foot into a Christian church until his handler, David Axelrod, told him he could not win over white middle-class America unless he started attending a Christian church. At that point, he started attending Rev. Jeremiah (Goddamn America) Wright’s Trinity church. Obummer then proclaimed he never heard any incendiary language from his pastor during the 20 years of his association.

        • momof7

          If you would have bothered to listen to Rev. Wright’s entire sermon, you would have heard him say that after all the American people have been through, God will take care of His own.

    • eddie47d

      Both the Muslim Koran and the Christian Bible have many wonderful quotes and verses on how to live your lives. Each also have stories of killing ,armageddon and revenge. It depends on which parts you want to emulate. There are leaders in the Muslim faith and the Christian faith who manipulate the faithful to do their dirty work. Religion has been used to spread hate,declare terrible wars and to control whole nations. If Obama says he is a Christian then that is what he is regardless of his past Muslim background. How can Christians who want to convert others to Christianity be so hypocritical when someone has come over to their faith. Would that mean that those who do missionary work throughout the world and bring non believers into their faith are wrong? Considering how you are shooting Obama down for changing faith doesn’t say much for the strength of your faith.

      • Kate8

        Sheesh, eddie. How is it that you are so gullible? Have you really not noticed that Obama lies about EVERYTHING (except fundamentally changing America).

        We must also remember that a Muslim has a religious obligation to deceive all non-Muslims in any possible way in order to sieze power.

        The man lies. Period. Nothing he says can be taken at face value. When he’s in the Middle East, he speaks of his Muslim faith. He will say whatever he thinks people want to hear.

      • http://google gary gerke

        Sure! He cancels the national day of prayer and celebrates the Muslim day of prayer, you need to keep up with the real news instead of the projectile vomiting from the liberal media. Do the research and get back to us.

      • Dennis48e

        If I remember correctly even the Rev. Wright has said obama is a Christian for convience sake not out of any deep conviction or strong faith.

      • eddie47d

        Just because you say he lies Kate 8 doesn’t make it so. Almost every time you post there is a wee bit of hate and lying going on. Now go back to your unproven conspiracy theories and pretend you are brilliant. In other words Kate 8 you take the low road so much your starting to slither like a snake.

      • Kate8

        Oh, eddie…there’s a snake here, all right. But it’s not me.

        You lib’s little digs like “conspiracy theorists” and “birthers”, etc. don’t wash anymore, because the conspiracies have turned out to be true, and those who want to see the documents O continues to hide is increasing to over half the country.

        You are wasting your time here, edduh. The only ones listening to you are your paid shill cohorts.

        Whattsa mattah? Afraid to actually learn the truth? I’d say, yep.

      • eddie47d

        You pop out false conspiracy theories like some kids suck down M&M’s Kate 8. You’ve blown it too many times to say they are coming true. Remember …Again…That Israeli conspiracy to take out Obama in Chicago. Didn’t happen so who is fooling whom?

      • Kate8

        eddie – You’ve told this lie twice now, and I must say something. I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I said there would be an Israeli attempt to take out Obama in Chicago. I never even heard such a thing, let alone said it.

        You like to ridicule me, that’s fine. I don’t recall having ever been specific about any kind of event. There have been warnings of possible false flags, and I may have made reference a couple of times to these warnings, but that is all.

        You are a fool and a liar. I don’t care what you think of me, but I draw the line at your stating blatant falsehoods about me.

        Geeze. What am I saying. Everything you say is a falsehood.

        Get lost, eddie.

      • eddie47d

        You know exactly what I am talking about Kate 8 or you have a very selective memory. Either way you are fooling yourself. Now to refresh YOUR memory you post a few articles from BEFORE IT IS NEWS. The article claimed and you backed up the article about the NATO Conference in Chicago where Israeli agents were making an attempt to assassinate President Obama. Now does that clear your fog and if it doesn’t then stop posting anything because you are only causing trouble for those who want facts from someone who will back them up. More importantly there is no falsehoods coming from me and that TRUTH has indeed been told twice (now three times). So you cooked your credibility goose each time …Now you go away!!

    • Karolyn

      Would you please provide proof that he said that?

      • Ted Crawford

        http://www.wnd.com/2008/09/74635 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdKgfBICw. The Progressives want to dismiss it as a simple gaffe! What it in reality is, is a Freudian Slip!

      • Daveh234

        Kate8, that is a load of right wing lying crap.

      • Karolyn

        Ted, I saw thaat obviously doctored video a long time ago and discounted it as the propaganda it is.

      • Ted Crawford

        Karolyn
        Nothing doctored about it! I was watching the interview, it took place exactly that way! He was interviewing with George Stephenopolis, he knew it would be a softball interview, he was relaxed and his guard was down. As often happens at time like this ” From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks” !

    • Nadzieja Batki

      O needs the “Christian” vote so he will now call himself a “Christian”.
      He presumes he has the Jewish vote so he won’t pass himself off as a Jew which is much more difficult and it will offend the Muslims and other religions which Judaism offends by existing.
      The Christians should ask which Jesus is O believing in, the one of the Bible, the one that Muslims believe existed, the Romanists,or the Buddha of Christendom, or the Jesus of the Liberals/Leftists/Communists/Marxists, etc.,etc..

      • Kate8

        Last night I was listening to a guest speaker on the radio, and he was saying how Obama must win because Romney is too dangerous. When questioned further about this, his primary concern was that Romney might try to abolish abortion. Oh, the horror!

        It’s stunning how, with all of the grabbing of power and horrific edicts coming out of this WH, liberals are stuck on preserving infanticide. They can live with NDAA and killing Americans with predator drones everywhere, but the recoil at the thought of preserving life.

        As if Romney would, or even could, abolish abortion. I mean, he runs with the big dogs, too, and they are all eugenicists.

        In the perfect liberal world, there would be no morality, no worship of anything but self-indulgence, and anything goes. And death would reign supreme, especially the death of babies, children and all people of faith and freedom. They have contempt for the innocent and celebrate the profane.

        Sad.

      • Daveh234

        sorry, replied to the wrong load of crap…..

        Kate8, that is a load of right wing lying crap.

      • Paul Wells

        Daveh234,
        You were just one abortion away from being able to reply to Kate8 in such obnoxious fashion!

      • Daveh234

        See, I think Kate8 is the obnoxious one.
        Matter of perspective I guess.
        I was born in a catholic family, by the way.
        Catholic school and all.

      • Kate8

        Dave234 – I was going to ignore your remarks but, okay, I challenge you to point out, specifically, which parts of what I said are untrue.

        Be honest, now. I’ll be waiting… :)

      • Flashy

        kate8…I’d say the parts which imply anything pre third trimester is an infant or human being ….

        The test which the Supremes laid out was simple. If a fetus can survive and develop outside the womb, it is a life with some protections…the closer to full term, the more protection it has. First trimester…it’s a mass of developing cells with no cognition. Second trimester it comes closer to being something recognizable and viable, third trimester…survivability outside the womb becomes a strong factor to consider.

        Anything that states non survivability outside the womb doesn’t matter and life is at conception..is bringing a religious belief into the equation and trampling on women’s rights. you may think this barbaric…well, to me, your position is barbaric.

        BTW…just what exactly is “legitimate” rape versus “illegitimate” ?

      • Kate8

        Flashy – So, let me get this straight, just for arguments sake: you accept the SCOTUS as the supreme arbitor, the final word and judgment, on all matters of both physical and spiritual law. Wow.

        I guess that works for you in your world. As if the supremes have some inside knowledge about such things that we lack.

        In my world, life is life. When life begins, at that very moment of spark, life is present. To dishonor that is to dishonor life.

        However, even supposing that you are correct in that a mass of cells doesn’t constitute life, Obama has approved of partial-birth abortion during the final trimester up to and including birth, and if the child survives the procedure and is born alive, he approves of leaving it in a closet to die, alone, of dehydration and starvation. Only a person devoid of humanity would be okay with this.

        How a child is conceived is only relevant to liberals. That being said, I believe that such decisions are beyond the scope of government and should be left to the individual, as it is that individual who will be ultimately held to account. Liberals like government to determine all phases of morality because they want religion, which effectively establishes morality among its adherents, to be gone from the face of the Earth.

        We both know that the real reasons for legalizing abortion at all stages is a. population reduction, and b. to provide an abundant supply of human tissue and body parts for experimentation.

        The problem with you liberals is that you have one view with one rationale. You never look at things from all sides. Again, you are all about the right to be as irresponsible and immoral as you choose and never have to face consequences. And you never consider how these choices affect others, or society in general.

        And I stand by everything I said.

      • Flashy

        “Flashy – So, let me get this straight, just for arguments sake: you accept the SCOTUS as the supreme arbitor, the final word and judgment, on all matters of both physical and spiritual law. Wow.

        ===> nope. Wrong. Spiritual is for the individual outside the scope of government. The SCOTUS determines the rights, privileges and freedoms with which those choices may be made. in this case, the SCOTUS wisely stated it is not the government to make a determination as such would be instilling singular religious beliefs onto all Americans.
        ————-
        In my world, life is life. When life begins, at that very moment of spark, life is present. To dishonor that is to dishonor life.

        ====> Such is your belief and i ask for no law against you holding that belief.
        ——————————

        However, even supposing that you are correct in that a mass of cells doesn’t constitute life, Obama has approved of partial-birth abortion during the final trimester up to and including birth, and if the child survives the procedure and is born alive, he approves of leaving it in a closet to die, alone, of dehydration and starvation. Only a person devoid of humanity would be okay with this.

        ====> I don’t believe he said that. please provide the quote or source.

        ——————————

        How a child is conceived is only relevant to liberals.

        ====> Usually via sex has been my knowledge.
        ———————-

        That being said, I believe that such decisions are beyond the scope of government and should be left to the individual, as it is that individual who will be ultimately held to account.
        ====> then you are not insisting abortion be made illegal or restricted beyond what Roe v Wade has held? This is a rare common sense statement from you kate8.

        ——————

        Liberals like government to determine all phases of morality because they want religion, which effectively establishes morality among its adherents, to be gone from the face of the Earth.

        ===> examples?
        ———————

        We both know that the real reasons for legalizing abortion at all stages is a. population reduction, and b. to provide an abundant supply of human tissue and body parts for experimentation.
        ====> Only a whacked far Right ideologue or member of the American Taliban would believe such. I am not a whacked Right ideologue nor a member or supporter of the American Taliban. Where did you ever come up with this one????
        ————–
        The problem with you liberals is that you have one view with one rationale. You never look at things from all sides. Again, you are all about the right to be as irresponsible and immoral as you choose and never have to face consequences. And you never consider how these choices affect others, or society in general.”

        ====> nope. I am about keeping religion out of the affairs of the State. Whether it be christian, muslim, wiccan, bhuddist etc. I do look at the greater picture, and last i looked..there was no written statement signed by any god stating the christian way was the correct or only way. i do not want any American taliban, or Muslim taliban, or Bhuddist taliban etc dictating to me what I should believe or how i should live to be “correct” and “saved”. What is so difficult to understand about that? Keep your frippin’ religion to yourself1 is that so difficult a concept to follow?

        ————-

      • Kate8

        Flashy – That was nothing but another convoluted, ridiculous rant. And if you are not aware of the things I’ve mentioned, it only proves that you are, like most leftists, woefully uninformed.

        Go have another Coca Cola. Contains human fetal tissue. So do many, many other foods and beverages. How about cosmetics? Does your squeeze use them? Yep. Human fetal tissue.

        How about vaccinations? Do you get them? Both human and animal fetal tissue.

        Not to mention all of the medical experiments they are used for.

        Everything I mentioned is a matter of public record, including Obama’s approval of allowing babies to die at birth. Do your own research. But you won’t. You’d rather do what liberals always do…just declare it untrue because you don’t want it to be true.

        That is a given. I wouldn’t waste my time looking it up for you, because you still would refuse to believe it. But I recall when it happened. Was in the news, in his own words.

      • Kate8

        Oh, and btw, there is a huge market for little tiny arms, legs and other human parts. Many industries pay big money for them.

        How anyone can look upon these little dismembered babies and not feel disgust and heartbreak is beyond me.

      • Kate8

        And btw btw, flush, I believe I was directing my question to Daveh234, who has failed to respond.

    • Renée

      I live near a few of those Jesus’s he might be referring to but you pronounce the name differently, more like Ha-zuse. (Sorry, no offense to anyone out there that has that name)My Jesus, the Son of the Living God wouldn’t do or say the things that B.O. does and says. I don’t believe that malarky. The Quran if I’m not mistaken says that you can say and do what ever it takes to an infidel (us not them) to get the job done as long as you repent later. Doesn’t sound like My Jesus. I would love to see that change in him though!

    • s c

      Harold Olsen, I’ll ‘take that bet.’ If only MLK was alive today to put that idea to the test. Frankly, if we could know the truth, we’d also learn that Gramsci, Lenin, Engels, and a host of other hardcore kookoids were also “followed.” Obummer is a politician and his specialty is in telling people what they WANT to hear. Know them by their DEEDS – not their words. Up the rebels!

    • al

      Obama is now back to being a Christian now that Ramadan is over. And next week what will he be…… It is anybodies guess.
      But the one thing you can count on, ‘If his lips are moving he is making up another story to tell his fawning followers and they will eat it up. Some people are completely Stupid…

    • TerriG

      DnT say that. He was correcting Stephanopplou about what was beinh said about him. He didn’t say that he was Muslim. He was saying that that was what was being said about him.

    • Shirley De

      I do not recall Jesus having an ASSASSIN CZAR. That is not at all like Jesus. At Least not the Jesus in the bibles I have read.

    • Bob

      The President also said that those who doubt he is a Christian should just look at his life.

      OK lets look… has he ever LIED?
      Christians lie, right?
      Muslims lie and their book says it is encouraged.
      How can he be both a lier and a Christian?
      He could be both a muslim and a lier because it is ok for a muslim to lie to a non-muslim.
      OK lets keep looking, start a list.
      Lets see if he can celebrate a CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY, not just muslim ones.
      Can he quote the bible accurately? or is it TWISTED?
      Does he grasp those IMPORTANT concepts put forward in the Bible.
      Do you see him ever carry a Bible? open a Bible, read a Bible?

      By their fruit you shall know them.
      For a good tree produces good fruit.
      And a bad tree produces bad fruit.
      You decide on the last 4 years, good fruit or bad fruit?
      Lier or not?
      You decide.
      Christian or not?

      • Renée

        I’m wondering if he even realizes that he makes mistakes. Is he so blind to his own life that he can see that so many people look at him and cringe because of his example or lack there of? Anyone that knows anything about the truth of the bible can see through that facade..at least I hope they can. All I can see is decaying fruit that has no life what soever. He walks in darkness and that has to be why he can’t see his own sin. So sad. I pray that God will get hold of his heart and reveal to him who he’s really following and that the reality of his life will become clear. Will you all hope and pray with me for a miracle! We also need to pray for this country and that God will give us all wisdom on Nov. 6th.

  • swampfox

    let’s see,Jesus said by your fruits you will know them to see whether they are my diciples.
    Same sex marriages……nope
    Going to mosque….nope
    bowing to Muslim……nope
    covering up the cross at a speech….nope
    listening to the hate filled ‘sermons’ of wright for yrs……nope
    lieing….nope (no liers shall make it into heaven)
    gay rights…..nope
    not going to church…..nope
    Professing Mohammed…..nope
    surrounding himself with avowed radical communists and evil men…nope
    not respecting the flag….nope
    mocking Jesus and misusing scripture to mock Jesus…..nope

    I could go on and on.
    Jesus will say to him,depart from me,I never KNEW you.

    • Dennis

      I was getting ready to write something similar, but you beat me to it and saved me the time. Thank you and I totally agree with you. Obummer worships Satan, period.

      • Flashy

        To worship Satan, one must first be a christian. satan exists only in christian mythology.

      • Kate8

        Flashy – You continue to show your ignorance.

        Satan is a representation of the physical, beast nature, which is ruled by the conscious, surface, selfish mind. It is always in conflict with the spiritual nature until such time that the Christ Consciousness emerges through the heart, when a person is said to be “born again” in spirit. At that time the surface mind is no longer master, but rather becomes the servant to the Christ Within. Satan is really nothing more than the collective beastial consciousness.

        This is what is really meant by when, at the judgment, Our Lord Christ will say either, “Well done, my good and faithful servant”, or “Be gone from me. I never knew you”.

      • Flashy

        kate8…last i heard, the only religion which tells and speaks of Satan is christian. One must first believe in the truth of christianity to believe there is a Satan.

      • Kate8

        Flash – Much of religion is metaphorical.

        OMG you are dense.

      • Flashy

        Kate8…so you’re saying much of religion is made up and myth? i would agree…

      • Kate8

        Flash – If you prefer everything go by a literal interpretation, that’ your issue. For me, what is behind the metaphor is very real.

        But, I’ll let you determine that for yourself.

      • Dennis48e

        Flashy I know of any number of religions that have an “anti-creator” or “anti-good” figure (in other words satan) in them. Just because they do not use the word satan does not mean they do not believe in the concept of him.

    • steve

      the bible mentions nothing about respecting any flag. stop using the bible for something that it’s not. read john 15;17

      • Kate8

        steve – In this context I took respect for the flag to refer to Obama’s betrayal of his oath of office, and of the Law he committed (with crossed fingers) to protect and defend.

        Jesus definitely would abhor such betrayal.

      • eddie47d

        Was Kate 8 in the room when he “crossed his fingers” and you say that is your truth. Yes indeed Jesus wouldn’t like a liar. Since Obama is continuing the practices of Bush,Reagan Johnson and so forth in going into foreign countries and killing people then you have got to love him for he is following that same flag.

      • Flashy

        When did he diss the flag?

      • Kate8

        Yeshua did not discuss flags. Geeze, you people are dense.

        He discussed Truth. He discussed fidelity. Obama has neither.

        One need not have been present in the room to know that Obama has violated the presidential oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He hates the Constitution, else why would he be shredding it?

        How do we know what oath he even took at that point, as it was behind closed doors and at the administering of that treasonous weasel CJ Roberts. More than likely he swore oath to the NWO and the satanic lodges of which they all serve.

        And as for what previous administrations did, you haven’t seem me defending any of them. I say that they are all the same, serve the same masters. Only you guys continually try to defend Obama by justifying his violations because others committed them before him. Since when do multiple wrongs make a right.

        Wait. Liberals justify any means to their ends.

      • Flashy

        “One need not have been present in the room to know that Obama has violated the presidential oath to protect and defend the Constitution. He hates the Constitution, else why would he be shredding it?”

        Ummm..since the SCOTUS is the ultimate decision maker on what the Constitution allows and does not allow….and since i know of very few presidential actions the SCOTUS has said was not within the Constitution…what are you referring to?

      • Kate8

        Flash – I understand that is what you were taught in school.

        But, if that were true, then the SCOTUS would be the Supreme Law, and that is called an oligarchy. They could rule any way they want, and legislate from the bench.

        While I realize that this is how the liberals envision things, it was never meant to be that way. The SCOTUS was intended to be EQUAL, but Congress were to be the sole legislative bodies. The SCOTUS were there to uphold the Constitution, and determine the Constitutionality of of Acts of Congress and other things according to the letter of the Law.

        I do realize that they have gone beyond that scope in many cases, but just because they rule a certain way does not necessarily make it so. They are not an enforcement branch, but only an opinion branch. Otherwise we’d have what has now transpired…an ideological body who no longer rules according to the Constitution. All three branches have sold out to the NWO, and do not consider the Constitution nor the will of the people in any of their actions.

      • Flashy

        kate8…Marbury v Madison. In essence, the SCOTUS interprets the Constitution.

      • Kate8

        Proves my point. Just because a group of unelected, fallible ideologs determines a thing to be so, does not necessarily mean it’s right.

        That you would deify any man is alarming, and indicative of the inability of your kind to actually think and arrive at rational conclusions.

      • Flashy

        ummmm…Kate…marbury v Madison was the first case decided by the SCOTUS and of the members of the Court, they would be some of those whom you refer to when referring to “Founding Fathers” ….

      • Kate8

        I know what Marbury vs Madison is.

        However, any governmental branch is only as good as it’s commitment to follow the Constitution, and we have seen all branches step well over these lines for a century. We now have a majority sitting all branches who have betrayed their oaths to uphold the Constitution, and who have, in fact, openly stated that they do it all the time, and that they think that is their right.

        Men are fallible, and there is no doubt that, at this time, they have completely fallen.

      • eddie47d

        Kate 8 is ranting just to be ranting!

      • Kate8

        LOL. Is that the best you’ve got, eddie?

        Face it. With me, you will never win. You just don’t have the brains.

      • eddie47d

        Why argue with an idiot who can remember what she says.You poisoned your own well so keep drinking up Kate 8.

    • eddie47d

      The picture of Obama being an anti-Semetic Jew hater is false and dispicable so why was it posted? Obama is trying to keep Israel from preemptively attacking Iran and starting a new war and Israel wants to do things their way. We should only defend Israel if they are attacked not if they start a war. We are in control of our own nation and the Israeli government does not have the right to dictate how we defend them. Threatening and intimadating posters doesn’t change that fact or are we that easily bought?

      • Ted Crawford

        Good Idea Eddie, that is if you ignore the fact that three well placed nuclear strikes would eliminate about 80 to 90% of the entire population. Get real!

      • eddie47d

        No country has threatened Israel with nuclear weapons and since Israel does have nukes I think they will respond accordingly. (If it comes to that) You know the same nuclear deterrent we use against Russia to “hold the peace”. Maybe you are the one that needs to get real.

      • Ted Crawford

        Perhaps Eddie you missed Ahmadinejads latest rant. On Friday Aug. 17, he declared that the existance of Israel is ‘ an insult to all humanity” and that confronting them is to ” protect the dignity of all human beings”
        What do you think that means, that he intends to challange them to a vigorous game of volleyball?

      • eddie47d

        Ahmadinejad is always ranting… Netanyahu is also always ranting. Hugo Chavez use to rant alot and bad mouth the USA. North Korea has nukes and they rant alot. Your problem is that you are too easily provoked by any slight. Folks on this site rant about Muslims constantly so are you hoping for war and trying to push the button yourself!?!

    • Glenda

      Amen!

    • Glenda

      Amen to Swampfox post.

    • Rob

      Swampfox,
      Don’t forget supporting abortion. Proverbs 6 states that God hates hands that shed innocent blood. The original Greek texts of some books do not differentiate between a babe in the womb and a babe that has been born (Matt.).

      • Doc Sarvis

        Deuteronomy 21:18-21

    • http://none Charlie

      Good comment, that Scripture is Matthew 7:22,,,Obama is also in violation of Deuteronomy 17:15,,,and NOT called out at Matthew 15:24…

      • momof7

        I love the biblical scholars that live the bible. How about I Tim.2:1-4? Or you above the God that wants all men saved and prayed for?

      • http://none Charlie

        mom of 7,,,thank you ,,,BUT,,.,you stopped at verse 4, read on to verse 12 and DO IT! ha ha ha ha ha …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation …

    • Paul Wells

      You missed “Did not have national day of prayer, which the last 7 or 8 presidents have participated in fully. This one instead invited a Muslim group to pray in the White House” so, I think taken what O says, and what O does, I’m gonna have to call BullCrap on the Liar in Chief being Christian!!!

      • eddie47d

        The National Day Of Prayer is still there although it is not now an official government “holiday”.That government can’t support one religion over another or exclude anyone from praying as they choose. That is the way it should be.

    • momof7

      I don’t recall seeing any of the things you mentioned listed in the “fruits of the spirit”.

    • General ” Bull ” Shipper

      how right you are swampfox, its easy to tell. O bozo lies when the truth would fit better and its easy to tell when hes lieing, his lips are moving.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    IF CHRISTIAN FAITH INFLUENCED THE KENYAN ON HEALTH CARE, HE WILL BE SENDING NEGROES TO EARLY AND PAINFULLY-SLOW DEATHS.

    IF CHRISTIAN FAITH INFLUENCED THE KENYAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, HE WILL BURN IN HELL.

  • JimH

    In the 2008 campaign, Obama said Rev. Wright was the man who introduced him to the Christian Faith.
    Maybe that is why he really doesn’t know about the Christian faith.(with Wright as the influence)
    I know by just being aware he could see the difference, but look at his start.(not trying to excuse it)

  • Doc Sarvis

    Got to love our Freedom of Religion. It was such a shock to our country to elect a Catholic J.F.K. Now we have a Mormon running for President, ooooooo. President Obama affirms his Christian faith while others think he is a Mualim – big freaking deal. He was elected by us to lead this country NOT be a preacher to the masses. We are far better off having elected President Obama than we would have been with McCain (a fine man and good Senator-but not a leader).

    • Dean Bartlett

      Better off my ass Obama has done just what to make us better off? Our debt has increased 400% our troop[s are dieing in a country that has nothing to offer in return.
      Obama and his friends are getting filthy rich off our backs. I could go on but whats the point. You my friend will probably be singing his praises even while the stand you up and shoot you.

      • Pamela33168

        OMG where do you get 400%?Fox News? Stand you up and shoot you? Where are you coming from? You make no sense!! I completely agree with Doc as it’s true I am SOOO THANKFUL that we got the vote out and McCain/Palin did not get into office. Now Romney? I don’t understand how so many people vote against their interest when they vote Republican makes no sense.

      • Flashy

        Pamela…bear in mind, McCain thought Palin was a better choice than Romney for the second slot and next in line for the Presidency Notice anyone who has dealt with Romney (other than the ultra wealthy) aren’t really stumping for him?

      • cawmun cents

        An ae holdong a popsicle would be better than what is there now.
        -CC.

      • Daveh234

        Jeez, Dean, are we supposed to get a return on investment from the wars we’re in?
        Oh, Bush did say that Iraq would pay us back in OIL! That worked out great.
        When the very thought of pulling out of Afghanistan came out the right wing politicos and military screamed we were threatening the safety of our country by allowing the terrorists to gain control. Damned if you do, chastised if you don’t.

      • momof7

        Did you remember that the previous administration did away with millioms in surplus before getting us into millions in debt and getting men killed in 2 wars? Wake up !!!

    • Schlumbio T

      Doc, ya got me there… How in blazes could ANY p….. resident of the USA be worse than Black Hitler Obermeister? Have you actually heard/read/seen what this ‘bummer has done to the nation? If he gets another term, he will make the first Hitler look like an angel by comparison. IF his faith is Christian, why do his “works” not match up to his professed fath? IF it is Muslim, which many say it is, just read about what is happening in Egypt TODAY – the new Muslim extremist is CRUCIFYING those who oppose him, and along with that are a lot of Christians – GOD HELP AMERIKA!

      • Pamela33168

        Please does not the Bible tell us to “love thy neighbor” I guess that only rings true if they are Christian can you not see that you are a Hater and a Racist? Please lets do some soul searching and look deep inside and see that you are not holding true to your faith like you claim.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Pamela33…., are these the cue words that you were told to use in every posting to counter the Christians.
        You don’t seem to notice that you are the Hater and Racist, that you are the very things that you accuse the Charistians of being.

      • Karolyn

        Nadzieja – Your response does not make sense, since there was no hate in Pamela’s post. As usual, reading things into what people say that isn’t even there.

      • eddie47d

        Most Egyptians live and let live Schlumbio and we can’t let the few radicals who cause trouble take center stage in what they do to others. Those few (including leaders) have caused trouble for Jews and Christians long before Obama came onto the scene. Generational hatred festers and unfortunately drags a few into their fold. There will always be those who scream hate the Christian or hate the Muslim are you one of them? Your “Black Hitler Obermeister” comment proves your sinister thoughts.

      • Kate8

        The liberal mind is truly astounding.

        I’m firmly convinced that we do not live in the same world. This really goes to prove that we all live in a virtual reality, made up of whatever media to which we expose ourselves.

        How anyone can look upon any of the things which have come out of the past several administrations, and this one most of all, and think all is well is beyond stunning.

        Divide and conquer has worked every time it’s tried, and now more than ever because of the easy mind manipulation. Always, there are only a few who see through the smokescreens, and they are the ones who are ridiculed.

        Humanity just seems to make the same errors over and over again, refusing to listen or see. And all we can do is watch and weep for our children.

      • eddie47d

        Do you have an astonishing mind Kate 8? The dividing and conquering has been coming from the right wing. Those who chastise women of not being capable of making their own choices whether with their bodies or in employment. It also wasn’t Liberals who held back blacks in the early days but Conservatives of both parties.They weren’t worthy of being equal as those Conservatives had said. Its Conservatives who say certain people can’t vote (aka Tom Trancredo) or put up walls to keep them away from the polls. Its always right wingers not Liberals who make comments about shooting immigrants and some of those sickos follow through on their threats. Remember Oak Creek Wisc. and the wackos in the Minutemen Defense. Liberals and even Libertarians will put much thought into supporting foreign wars of aggression but Conservatives will grab the flag every time and keep those wars flourishing. So you need to look in the mirror and observe what “your side” does. Now I won’t claim Liberal superiority because I’ve witnessed their faults but I bet you will continually support the ungracious things some Conservatives are capable of.

      • Kate8

        eddie – That was an insane and ridiculous rant. Good grief.

        Once again, the biggest topic for the liberal mind is abortion. I have stated that government has no place there. I truly think you guys are obsessed with killing babies.

        As far as women’s rights, point out one person (except Muslims, who are democrats) who want to do away with women’s rights. You are barking up the wrong tree here, mister.

        And you dare defend the rights of illegals to vote? Otherwise, I defy you to come up with one citizen who can’t get an ID, since they are assigned at birth. If not (and I can’t think why not), the government is all too willing and able to give them since they want total control.

        Besides which, anyone without the mental capacity to get one should not be voting.

        Again, complete inability to use logic. Everything is based on emotional idiocy with absolutely no substance. You guys are all for anyone and everyone being able to vote for Obama, be they human, animal, fictional or even deceased. Vote early, vote often. Any means to an end.

    • WillaBeast

      Problem is, Obama is leading us to a destructive course,where in a while, theres no turning back because we’ll be in so much debt! Wait a minute! We already are!

      • Flashy

        that debt is courtesy of Reagan and Bush II … since his budgets took effect …the growth of the cost of the federal government has grown the least amount than any modern presidency.

      • Kate8

        Flashy – What!!! Where do you get this tripe!

        It’s common knowledge that Obama has expanded the debt beyond all previous administratons put together!

        You have zero credibility. A truly deluded soul.

      • Flashy

        Kate8..’09 was Bush II’s last budget. Pres. Obama has rolled it over and not decreased it (not for lack of trying. The GOP has managed..for the sake of politics over nation…to block any budget deficit acts). the growth in federal spending has been the smallest in any modern presidency. I know you try not to believe the truth…but do you have to be dense to reality as well?

      • eddie47d

        Why is Kate 8 so worried about your credibility when she has none herself. I think she planted too many mushrooms.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Now you’re babbling.

        Maybe if you keep repeating that over and over, you might actually start to believe it.

      • eddie47d

        Tell the truth Kate 8 it may help your mental capacity if you can be more honest. .

    • http://google gary gerke

      Hopefully you play the trumpet, your take on Obama is truly a far fetched opinion based on what? Give us the great things Obama has done becides shredding the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights!

  • Flashy

    Isn’t it amazing that those who are the first to scream “persecution for religious beliefs” are the very same who most advocate it ? The American Taliban will be out in force on this thread today …

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You just identified yourself as being the American Taliban.

      • JON

        Nah, he seemed to be talking about people like you “Perfect and Sinless Christian Stone Throwers”!!!

      • Flashy

        Sorry Nad…i don’t go around screaming “religious persecution”. i just object to having christians insisting their way and beliefs should be imposed on me and my life … and if you get a group of ‘em together, they can’t even decide which is the correct “Way”

      • Kate8

        Flashy – You are really on a roll today, aren’t you.

        Tell me, just when and where have Christians tried to force their ways on you? That has never happened to me or anyone I know.

        If anything it’s quite the other way around. You liberals have managed to legislate your ways right into the churches, forcing them to violate their beliefs in order to serve yours. In fact, you hate all things Christian to the point where you can’t help yourself in spewing your hateful diatribes.

        Oh ye tolerant ones.

        And here we have Obama declaring Christians to be terrorists!

        You have a lot of gall.

  • flpi!

    Note what B. Hussein Obama says in his own words. They are from his book entitled “Audacity of Hope”.

    In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

    And then there’s this:

    Starting at the end of this month the Democratic National Convention will open with a focus on Islam. 20,000 Muslims are expected to attend according to the Bureau of Indigenous Muslim Affairs (BIMA), the national Muslim American non-profit coordinating the two days of events they claim are non-political. ”Jumah at the DNC” begins August 29 and will start with a Friday afternoon jummah prayer followed by other unnamed programs and events, leading up to the Islamic Regal Banquet.

    Just sayin,,,

    • Doc Sarvis

      Just sayin these two clips you cite mean nothing. Any President (even Bush) stand with Muslims as we have Freedom of Religion in this country. There will be Muslims at the Democratic National Convention and I would bet there will be some at the Republican National Convention. Practically every current Religion on earth today has practicing American citizens as members.

      • http://personalliberty jlbs

        From what I read, the RNC did not invite them, the DNC did. And they are Radical Muslims who would like to take over everything in this country and make Sharia law the law of the land. If you’re not familiar with Sharia law, please read up on it. Your jaw will drop!

      • Pamela33168

        Sharia law – What interpretation are you reading??? Please…… My jaw drops at the idea that you are so ignorant

      • Flashy

        Jibs… you are being misled by your readings.

      • eddie47d

        There are alot of people besides Muslims that the Republicans don’t invite and don’t make much of an effort to make them feel welcome.

      • Kate8

        eddie – a. how do you know who the RNC invites and who they don’t, and b. why would they invite democrats?

        The fact that Muslims ALWAYS try to install sharia whenever they gain enough numbers just doesn’t seem to register with you liberals. They evenly openly proclaim this intent! It is their law. You are just so dense, and are incapable of applying logic or assessing consequences.

        I’m convinced that you have a suicide wish. But then, the very nature of evil tends toward self-destruction.

      • Kate8

        btw – I did just read where liberals are planning to stage protests and riots at the RNC.

        Of course they are. They have no respect for any alternative views, and they are rife with hooligans.

        Yet, conservatives are deemed the terrorists.

        And you find nothing alarming here.

      • Paul Wells

        I will echo what Kate8 said about liberals staging protests at the RNC…but the group that has me REALLY worried, is Shabazz and his group of haters. They’ve issued threats against those who attend the RNC. What do you suppose the chances are of Holder putting some federal marshalls in place to make sure Shabazz doesn’t cause trouble? No takers on that bet? Hmmmm…just saying.

      • eddie47d

        There have been protests at all conventions for many decades Kate8 and company. There are many important issues that never make it to the convention floor so are you saying those issues and voices should be stiffled? You are proving that the two party system has you line hook and sinker if other voices can’t be heard. Its odd that the Republicans are trying to force Ron Paul and Gary Johnson to keep their distances. You know….those two party spoilers. The Republicans always want things nice and tidy and sanitized and are the ones turning away Alternative opinions.

      • Kate8

        Name one time when the DNC was trashed by conservatives. The RNC certainly has been by the looney left. These conventions are for the nomination of party candidates, not bipartisan platforms. The Left has no business disrupting these traditions.

        Because of the threats coming from the Left, many are not going to attend the RNC out of fear. It is going to be a police state there. I haven’t seen similar threats against the DNC.

        You Lefties are turning America into a lawless, run amok police state. We are no longer a nation of civility. Nothing is off-limits for you clowns. I hope you are quite satisfied at the America you are creating.

        All of this “your side”, “my side” cr*p is just what I keep talking about. While we are at each other’s throats, America is being lost, and WE ALL LOSE.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – how about the 1968 Chicago Convention for one? This year Charlotte is bracing for a lot of protests.

      • eddie47d

        Right now Kate 8 I am more concerned about the America you created. You know Conservatives who love war. Conservatives who love Wall Street. Conservatives who stripped the Banksters of any regulations…Thanks alot! The Conservatives who ruined our environment for a buck and want to go back to those days. The Conservatives who deny equal rights to various segments of society and that is alot of numbers when thrown in the same pot.The Conservatives who awarded CEO’s obscene salaries and golden parachutes and didn’t give a tinkers damn that the country was collapsing.The Conservatives who turned America into a prison nation for numerous minor infractions. The Conservatives who endorse the violent Sovereign Nation and a variety of other tax cheats. Yes the Conservatives have plenty of “noble” causes that screw the heck out of society.

      • Kate8

        eddie – You are ranting again.

        You just don’t get it, do you. The wealthy elite are all the same, whether they are liberal or conservative. There are at least as many liberals who’ve messed things up as conservatives. When it comes to these elite, those are just labels they wear for our consumption. The truth is, they are all for themselves, and they have nothing but contempt for us.

        Such as, they try to convince us that WE are causing the Earth’s pollution, when it is THEY who have been dumping poisons into the environment for a century.

        That is why all of this R/L stuff is so stupid. It is only for keeping us from being united and strong against the elite, and as long as you keep spouting that “evil conservative” nonsense, and believing in the equally evil liberals, we will never be able to get anywhere.

        Oh, wait. You don’t see any problems…

      • eddie47d

        That is your problem Kate 8 for you are the one who brought up Liberals and stoked the fire. That makes you the one playing the left/right game in doing so.

  • http://personalliberty.com Sheldon

    He has referred to “Christian faith” but according to scripture he must say, “Jesus Christ is Lord.” If he says that then we can see if he is really blessed by God. To be a true Christian POTUS would have to turn away from his evil deeds. At this point Swampfox has summarized POTUS fairly well.

    Moslems first task is to deceive the infidels. Then if they do not become moslem then they have the responsibility to kill the infidels. Oh if you are not moslem and follow all their tenants then you are an infidel. They take no prisoners.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I see, so now there is a secret password for Christianity? Come on!

      As for the directions for killing “infidels”, you might want to consider the Bible – Deuteronomy 17:12.

      • WillaBeast

        That was the Old Testament. When Christ hung on the cross, for you, and me, and the world, thats when the new covenant by God was made! The Old testament readings were over ridden by the NEW covenant God made for the world

      • http://none Charlie

        Doc, you certainly do not have a PhD in The Bible,,,The Bible calls out the lineage of a Man named ,Jacob Israel as being the people that King Jesus came to “Save”,see that at Matthew 15:24…
        Now, this Deuteronomy 17:12 you mentioned , well , read on , Obama is in violation of ,
        Deuteronomy 17:15…
        Now the “secret” code which is in plain site, for becoming a real Christian is spoken by Peter at Acts 2:38, because Peter is The Key Man of King Jesus Christ, see that at Matthew 16:19…
        Doctor, when you need a doctor give Me a holler …

      • Karolyn

        Willa – It seems that when it suits their purposes, Christians DO use the Old Testament.

      • Kate8

        No Christian would relish killing Americans, nor get off on watching drone-kill videos.

        No Christian would be targeting Christian and conservative patriots as homeland terrorists. We are definitely NOT terrorists, and we all know it. This is the same lie that Stalin, Hitler and Mao used to justify the slaughter of the innocent. The fact is that these are the only people who will stand against tyranny, and if anyone is going to save freedom it will be these very souls. That is precisely why the PTB need to remove them.

        Obama is a liar. He will pose as anything to win support. No true Christian would support him, because a real Christian would not be deceived by him.

      • Daveh234

        “He will pose as anything to win support. No true Christian would support him, because a real Christian would not be deceived by him.”

        Sounds like your describing Romney!

      • Flashy

        Doc…they change passwords frequently….maybe we should have them post the password for the day. BTW…do you know the secret handshake and the “approved’ way to have sex?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Flashy, you ask;”…do you know the secret handshake and the “approved’ way to have sex?”
        I know ONE of them involves a camel.

      • eddie47d

        Don’t be so naive Kate 8 if the Crusades were today all those Christian fighters would be carrying stinger missles and shooting off drones. Even today in Christian homes throughout America there are thousands of Christians playing violent video games and slaughtering the enemy. I have personally heard Christians say they want Obama killed. One happens to live one block from me and we attend the same church. Christian anger is real and its hard telling when they will go off the wall. Now I happen to like Bob and we work together on various church projects so I tolerate his nonsense and quaky comments.

      • Kate8

        eddie – So, you find it perfectly okay that Obama can kill anyone he likes, any time he likes, for any or no reason, including many Christians, but Christians are not allowed to feel angry about it? CHRISTIANS ARE BEING TARGETED BY OBAMA. If it were liberals being targeted, wouldn’t you feel outrage? Of course you would.

        I cannot believe that you are as stupid as you present yourself. You are just doing what you are paid to do…make idiotic statements to rile people up.

        • momof7

          Uhhh, who are these christians that President Obama has killed?

      • eddie47d

        I can’t believe that you are in such denial Kate 8. I am also not responsible for your idiotic statements so step back and lay off the Kool Aid. Where has Obama killed Christians? Have those mushrooms totally devoured your senses? You are doing what you do best …LYING!

    • momof7

      He needs to show his Christian faith like all the other presidents have, right ? Why is he always questioned about his faith ? Who else was always questioned concerning their deeds? Eating with unwashed hands, sitting with sinners, letting the unsaved touch Him? He is being accused of everything under the sun for no reason. Sounds kind of like the thing you do when you got nothing else, you invent something.

      • Kate8

        momo – As a matter of fact, I don’t recall other presidents making an issue of their faith at all. Only Obama, because he uses it to deceive.

        Just like the fake autobiographies written before anyone ever heard of him, the stupid wedding photos, the childhood photos…in an attempt to invent a life he never had.

        No one makes issue of these things except to try to appear to be something he isn’t, for a reason. You people are so gullible. You just fall for everything this joker puts in front of you, and you close your eyes and ears to reason.

        You are, in fact, pathetic.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – I haven’t heard him “making an issue” of his Christianity. The only ones making an issue of it are Christians who believe he isn’t one.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Obama has repeatedly mentioned his Christian faith. That is what this article is about.

        Elsewhere he mentions his Muslim faith. He can’t have it both ways. His actions are more consistent with Islam than Christianity.

        Actually, his actions are more consistent with NWO Luciferianism.

      • eddie47d

        Every President mentions his faith Kate 8 . Kennedy’s Catholic faith was very controversial as was Nixon’s Quaker faith. Now Romney has too although he knows many don’t like the Mormon faith so he is low keyed about it. Actually Obama has every right to talk about both faiths he grew up with and to say different makes you the Lucifer or troublemaker.

  • CBUETT

    I dont think anyone cares if Obamas a Muslim or Christian, i think people care that he is incapable of telling the truth; and saying he has any faith other than Liberalism is laughable. Obamas a Sociopath who looks to control every aspect of life and thats far from Jesus’s example im pretty sure. Flashy will be out full force today to protect his savior Obama.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Sociopath is practically a requirement to be President of the United States.

    • eddie47d

      Obama respects all religions and that is far more than I can say about some of you. You will never defeat al Qaeda or Muslim extremists unless you understand where they come from and your own Christian history. While claiming purity within the Christian faith while denouncing all Muslims as evil is anti-God hyperbole. Jesus embraced all that he came across and when he was on this earth there were no Christians or Muslims. Maybe religion is the problem considering all the wars proclaimed in the name of God. Now I assume most of you will go back to throwing stones!

      • Kate8

        eddie – Do you work at staying stupid, or is it that you just can’t help it?

      • momof7

        Eddie, you are right, Jesus only denounced the self righteous bigots who thought they were better than everyone else. God said ” My ways are not your ways and My thoughts are not your thoughts” they are as far apart as heaven is from earth. Maybe we should forget trying to figure who is christian and who is not and start living the commandment Christ gave. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself.

      • Kate8

        He also said not to cast pearls before swine.

        He also said that most everyone would be deceived; that they would call good evil, and evil good; that they would not endure sound doctrine; that they would sacrifice their children; that they would commit many abominations in the eyes of God… that they would mock those who follow him, hate them and persecute them…and kill them…

        What’s laughable is liberals attempting to use Bible quotations to prove a point.

      • coal miner 1

        Kate8

        Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church …

        http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm

        How many people have been killed by Christians since biblical times? … from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand. … 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in ….. The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart.

      • coal miner 1

        Kate8-Adolph Hitler was not an atheist:
        Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the ‘remaking’ of the Reich as they call it.
        -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
        The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.
        -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
        If the German nation wants to end a state of affairs that threatens its extermination in Europe, it must not fall into the error of the pre-War period and make enemies of God and the world; it must recognize the most dangerous enemy and strike at him with all its concentrated power. And if this victory is obtained through sacrifices elsewhere, the coming generations of our people will not condemn us.
        -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

    • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

      kate8,
      You are wrong.Adolph Hitler was christian.

      READ quotes from Mein Kampf
      http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm
      Hitler Was a Christian. The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism: … Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history .
      1. http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
      A compilation of source material to support the argument that Hitler thought of himself as a Christian.

      • eddie47d

        Millions of Hitlers Christians went along with his plans of annihilating Jews because they still considered the Jews responsible for Jesus’s death.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Wrong coal, hitler was Catholic!

      • Kate8

        coal – That is a patent lie. Hitler hated Christians.

        Hitler was an occultist. A worshiper of Lucifer. He was a puppet of the Illuminati. And many Germans were deceived by him, believing him to be their savior (like Obama).

        Then he revealed his true colors, and people were stunned. Sure, he had apostate Christian and even Jewish followers, who were there for personal gain, like George Soros, who is proud that he betrayed his Jewish brethren.

        It is also true that there were many Christians who risked (and lost) their own lives in order to save Jewish ones. Read up on Corey Tenboom. And FYI, in addition to the ten million Jews he slaughtered, he likewise slaughtered some eleven million Christians.

        My father fought in that war, and I was born soon after. I have German friends still living who lived in underground bunkers. Try telling someone who doesn’t understand that what you are reading is nothing but revisionist history, which is for the purpose of marginalizing Christians.

      • coal miner 1

        Jay,
        I thought Hitler was a Pentecostal.Ha Ha HA.Just kidding.
        Tell brainless kate8 she better read Mein Kampf.Hitler hated atheist,socialist, Jews and communist.He said he was a Christian patriot and nothing else.

      • coal miner 1

        Kate8, at that time George Soros was only fourteen years.That is just plain horse sh*t.Get real.

      • coal miner 1

        Jay and Kate8:
        The German words, “Gott Mit Uns” means God With Us and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII.

      • Kate8

        coal – Hitler claiming to be Christian was for the same reason Obama claims to be Christian: to win support of the Christian community.

        If he was Christian why did he commission Islamic Armies to fight for him against the Jews and Christians? The claim that he was Christian is a myth, just as it is for Obama. It’s political rhetoric.

        George soros was, I believe, 14 when he joined up with the NAZIs. Read it for yourself. There is also a video interview with him on YouTube where he proudly admits to having betrayed his Jewish people.

        http://itmakessenseblog.com/2011/01/28/george-soros-says-he-feels-no-remorse-for-collaborating-with-nazis-during-wwii-to-send-his-fellow-jews-to-the-death-camps-steal-their-property/

        You really need to have a broader research base. Sticking with your Marxist sources are keeping you ignorant.

      • eddie47d

        Hitler wanted to control the Middle East oil fields just like so many others are trying to do. He wasn’t buddy buddy with the Islamics for they were just useful idiots . Maybe Kate 8 is the one who needs broader research. Now is Obama claiming to be a Christian (according to Kate) similar to Huckabee claiming that Aikens was right in saying rape is legitimate.

  • http://personalliberty gottaplenty

    Anyone that is stupid enough to believe Obummer isnt muslim is just what energizes the DNC It cost a lot of money to get him in place to head up the American Jehad and if it isn’t obvious to you that is exactly what the DNC wants. … Pure islam , marxism.

  • Dr Jerry K. Jackson

    Swampfox did a great job. I would like to add that Barry is following his own brand of christianity (lower case on purpose). It is like the Old Testament people on idol worship. His idol is himself and he has created god (lower case on purpose) in his image rather than God creating mankind in His own image. Idol worship does not require church attendance (only if there are photo ops) or scripture reading (because that would condemn what he is doing and might guide him into Biblical actions). The benefit of idol worship is you are in control and idols do not judge your actions by any standard but your own. Do whatever is right in your own eyes which we know too well from his book. It is frightening to even think about what this great nation will become if he is re-elected. Dr J

  • David W Clark

    If Pres. Obama is a Christian and he has canceled and stopped participating in everything Christian in the United States and visiting and Honoring our military and only speaking of Muhamed and Islamic values. If he is a Christian and yet he promotes the killing of unborn babies, gay and lesbian marriage and so on.

    Then maybe I am a Muslum; because, I love Jesus Christ. I do not support anything having to do with Islam and the Muslum activities. I do not support anything having to do with homosexuality or aborsion at all.

    NOT!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS NOT A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN AND I AM NOT A MUSLIM.

    • Karolyn

      He did not say he was a “born again” Christian. Is that a prerequisite to being a Christian? I know that there are degrees of Christians.

      • cawmun cents

        You must be born of the Holy Spirit,having nothing to do with human birth.
        That is why it is called being born again…..and incidentally it is not something that a church member can bestow upon you.
        In effect you must be baptized in the”Spirit”,and that is not something you can do without making a consious decision for yourself.
        Catholic baptism of infants is a prime example where a church member bestows the honor upon you,not of deciding for oneself if they want to become baptized in the
        ‘Spirit’.
        But what do I know?
        Apparently very little…..
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I was born right the first time.

      • Kate8

        To be born again means to have a spiritual awakening, an understanding of our spiritual nature, a “birthing” of the Christ Spirit within our hearts. It manifests as a renewal of the mind and a change in our entire perception of Life and of God, a realization of Divine Love and Supremacy.

        This is a personal awakening, not a religious one.

        If one is content with focus on physical nature, that’s okay. But this is the realm of appearances, and is ruled by the beast. It is deceptive and temporal. It renders one completely incapable of seeing beyond it.

      • Flashy

        Kate8..then i must be a born again. Either i or my SO are born again every time we do the dirty. It truly is a spiritual awakening … “Oh gawd…oh gawd…OH GAWWWWDDDDD “

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn, Cawmun, see John chapter 3 , that’s where King Jesus explains being “born again of the water and The Spirit ,,,that’s why understanding the words in The Bible is just as critical as knowing The Words,,, also being baptized at age 20 or older is critical because of the age of
        accountability ,,,see that “Law” in the book of Numbers ,,,BUT,,,one can be “converted” at any age, that’s why it’s a good thing to read the Bible to babies because IF you have the Spirit of Acts 2:38 you will be transferring that Spirit by the vibrations of your voice ,especially IF that baby is blood kin…
        That’s why I push Acts 2:38 as Salvation, because it’s THE ONLY SINGLE verse that gives complete salvation in one single verse and was spoken by Peter , the Man, with The Keys to The Kingdom , see Matthew 16:19 ,,,BUT,,,Acts 2:38 , MUST be accomplished with understanding and that’s another reason for the age of accountability …In the meantime …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

      • Karolyn

        OMG I don’t need a lecture about what born again means. Of course, I know what it means. My point, obviously, is that when someone announces they are a Christian, they don’t usually announce that they are a “born again” Christian. A Christian is someone who is a follower of Christ, and, as I said, there are different degrees of Christians. If my life experience in dealing with people is any indication, there are a lot fewer “real” Christians (according to the ‘real’ Christians who post here) than people think. And, Jay, I would like you to tell any Catholic that they are not Christian. I would like you to tell anybody who professes to be Christian that they are really not.

      • Kate8

        Yeshua said that there would be many who would not “endure sound doctrine”, but would listen to words that “tickle their ears”. He spoke of false christs and false followers. We would know them by their fruits.

        If someone claims to be Christian, yet violates Christ’s teachings, that should be a clue…

        He said there would be many who say, “Lord, did I not feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the imprisoned…etc. etc.” And He said, “Be gone from me. I never knew you”.

        People can even appear outwardly righteous, but not have Christ in their hearts. Those are the ones He’s speaking about.

        I’m sorry that this is difficult for you to understand. Each person must examine their own hearts and determine where they stand. But if you are looking for the answers with your Earthly mind, you are rationalizing, and you will never find them.

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn,,,what Bible are you reading ? your reply reads as you could use a few more lectures , do you understand “Spiritual” warfare? mostly the same thing as psychological warfare … Anyway you need a whole bunch of harmonized data from The Holy Bible , Psalm 119:160 gives a hint on that , it is the Bible equation for “Truth”…
        How did you become a Christian according to “Scripture”???
        There ain’t no such thing as a non scriptural Christian ,,,it’s God’s way OR the hiway to hell ,,,King Jesus only had a few good Men working for Him when He was on Earth in the Physical and only one of those Men ,Peter, had been given The Keys to The Kingdom, see that at Matthew 16:19 ,,,so,,, Peter spoke Acts 2:38 for salvation and becoming a True ,per, the Book Christian , Acts 2:38 IS one of the Keys to the Kingdom of King Jesus Christ ,,,so,,,IF,,, All items in Acts 2:38 are not accomplished WITH understanding , THEN , most likely one , IS NOT, a Christian … During the mean time…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing …

    • eddie47d

      The Obamas show much respect towards our military David and attend numerous ceremonies. American gay and lesbians are citizens and it is the President duty to encourage equality among all. Why do Conservatives and Christians deliberately go out of there way to denounce others as not members of our society? He also doesn’t promote abortion but accepts it as a personal choice for any woman. That is personal liberty and ones own decision making.

      • http://none Charlie

        eddie47d,,, dummie,,, it’s called “”"The Law”"”, that’s The Law as called out in The Holy Bible of The Almighty God,,. All Creation is subject to some “”"laws”"”of God , Man will obey The Law OR! suffer “”Judgment”"” under The Law… That why King Jesus , bleed ,suffered and died , to bail out His People from the judgment of the Law,,,dummie, repent or perish under “”"The Law”"‘… Mean while …
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing … Acts 2:38 is salvation …

      • Karolyn

        Charlie – In YOUR belief.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “eddie47d,”

        SIR, I DISAGREE. IT IS NOT A PRESIDENT’S DUTY TO “support equality for all” IN REFERENCE TO HOMOSEXUALITY, SINCE HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT A NATIONALLY-PROTECTED CLASS. THE KENYAN IS GIVING HIS O-P-I-N-I-O-N.

        THIS ILLEGAL PRESIDENT IS SUPPORTING “gay-rights” BECAUSE HE IS EITHER A PRACTICING “bisexual,” OR, HAS AN “ANYTHING GOES” MINDSET. SO, UNTIL A NATIONAL LAW IS PASSED IT IS WRONG FOR ANY PRESIDENT TO LET THE WORD, “gay” COME-OUT OF HIS MOUTH.

  • Thinking About

    There are toooooo many folks here who always have a glass half empty rather than half full. More of cognitive dissonance, you continue to tell yourself lies until you begin to believe what you lie about.

    • Pamela33168

      Well said

      • Smilee

        DITTO! DITTO!! DITTO!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You are believing the lies that you tell yourself.

      • Karolyn

        You too!

    • Kate8

      Thinking – So what are you saying? That we should be grateful for what little we have left to us by this gluttonous beheamoth of government?

      That we should be thankful to them for plundering our land and destroying our future? Accept that our children are being indoctrinated, dumbed down, brain damaged and corrupted by vaccines, medications, and everything they hear and see outside the home? That government has breached the bounds of our homes?

      That we should not notice that we are being led to slaughter, but rather be content to be still in the chutes?

      That we should not even bother with what is going on at all?

      Good grief. That was one of the dumbest remarks yet.

      • http://none Charlie

        Good shot , Kate8,,,I enjoyed your comment …

      • Thinking About

        So, did any of this happen in the past few years? What we have is many zealous people interferring in lives of which time spent would serve them well to enhance their lives rather than attempting to downgrade others to their low level.

      • Kate8

        Thinking – I will agree that you Lefties are intent on dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

        You have to in order to feel good about yourselves. If there’s one thing you can’t stand, it’s to have to be around people who are moral and upstanding.

      • Thinking About

        Kate, you may not remember your post and you are at liberty to rered them, contrary to your thoughts will be I actually encourage everyone to up their game and make everyday the best day of your life, glass half full.

  • Dad

    “I never had sex with that woman.” Slick Willie Clinton

    • Flashy

      According to the definition cited by Newt Gingrich…Clinton spoke true. Gingrich was the first one who said oral relief was not sex.

      • cawmun cents

        Since it was done in the Oval Office by someone other than his wife…I suppose that asnt cheating either…..huh Flashy…..?

      • Flashy

        CC..i was only stating who defined “sex’…it wasn’t Clinton(Democrat), it was Newt (GOP).

      • steve

        their all one and the same flashy . or didn’t you know.

      • http://none Charlie

        Flashy heathen ,,,Sin is sin even if done only with your pea brain mind … Repent or perish , and that “deletion” from The Book of Life will be physical , mental and spiritual … Flashy your end may
        be a flash toward the black hole of outer space , burning , because of the friction of the speed of thought … How long does it take to reach the black wall of outer space at the speed of thought ?

      • Flashy

        Charlie…define sin.

      • http://none Charlie

        Flashy,,, see 1 John 3:4 for sin defined Per The Bible…”"sin is lawlessness”"…

  • CBUETT

    Doc Sarvis, as sad as it is, I believe your correct.

  • CBUETT

    Dr Jerry, Its because Obamas a Sociopath. Listen to him, “I did this”, ” I did that” nonstop. “This morning when I made the sunrise, I sent millions of people of to work; this is my economic plan for America, to let them wake up in the morning and go to work”. ” and then tax the hell out of them”.

  • SGT YORK

    “I know im loved”. This sounds like all mideast Dictators. What the hell have we gotten our selves into with this Muslim Commie we now call our commander in chief? Please Americans Wake Up this could be the end of America as We Know It. O’Vomit MUST Go

    • Karolyn

      Don’t you know you’re loved? If you don’t, you have a problem.

  • donald

    Sooo!! Christians are a threat to freedom (from the lips of the appointed Czar of homeland security! And why it is wrong to call Islamic terrorist ,Islamic terrorists?? And why has the Abominator meet with Islamics on the day of prayer? (The very first president that would not spend that day with Christian leaders!

  • Barbara

    The Quran teaches Muslims to lie to the Infidels if it’s only to their advantage and benefit, if anyone in their right mind thinks he is a Christian they are living in dream world

    • Flashy

      care to quote the passage of the Quran that states such?

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    The ayatollah barack hussein obama who is also fondly referred to – by those who voted for him – the president, unfortunately is living under the delusions of grandeur. He is the consummate chameleon, and has that wonderful knack and ability to change himself and his ideas depending on the gathering he is attending. He, it would appear has now been promoted as the MAHDI – the one that the Arab world has been waiting for with baited breath. Yes, people, he has arrived… he has been put on a pedestal so high that when he eventually falls he is going to be hurt, and badly. People forget that the MAHDI aka barack hussein obama is a man of flesh, bones and blood – and eventually die he must as all of us must die, and, none of us will know whether he will be met by 71 dancing prancing virgins, or whether he will hear the words I KNOW YOU NOT ..

  • Benjamin C. Freeman

    Dear Obama,

    Everyone knows you are a liar and a cheat. You are not the president for you broke

    the first rule for eligibility. You are not God- fearing for God abhors perversion and you

    promote perversion. If you escape arrest before the general election, We the People,

    with God’s help, will stop you when you attempt to manipulate the United Nations.

    • Doc Sarvis

      This IS very funny!

      • Daveh234

        Organized Religion is a scary thing. It drives people crazy. Speaking of power mongers.
        They are the only correct speakers on all subjects.
        Kneel in their presence or you are a satanist.
        Other beliefs are all wrong and evil and nothing more since they speak the truth.
        Please drop some money in the basket or be chastised on your way out.
        Priest needs a new car

    • Paul Wells

      So, Daveh234, if you tell the truth (granted, it’s as you see it), and call someone out for a blashpemy, you are guilty of calling another a satanist? That’s a reach, even for you! Jesus said love the sinner, hate the sin. First, you have to recognize what the sin is. I for one, think Mr. Freeman has correctly identified the sin, of the poser in chief. All of your hyperbole doesn’t make it any less true!

      • http://none Charlie

        Paul Wells,,, talk about hyperbole ! you are a liar , King Jesus DID NOT SAY “love the sinner” …
        Show scripture ….

      • Paul Wells

        Charlie:
        Jude 23
        Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate their lives.

        Requires a little reading between the lines, but I believe basically it says that. Christian love of people would mandate that you try set to straight the sinner, showing mercy, but all the while hating the sin.

        Now perhaps you might want to reconcile your sin by declaring me a liar!

  • JON

    By the looks of it, we have a page of full of sinless Christian stone throwers! You actually sound more like Pontius Pilate, best known as the judge at Jesus’ trial and the man who authorized the crucifixion of Jesus. You’re putting President Obama in his place!

    It’s perfectly fine to disagree with his politics. The rest is total bulls**t !

  • Howard

    The day has arrived when the truth must be spiritually discerned, and that makes this election a crossroad for the soul of the nation. Those who follow after the things disallowed by the new testament, are actually following after Satan and his lies. If you hate christianity and christians, you can’t expect favor from the GOD they serve. It is very possible that we are deep into the last days depicted in the scriptures.

    I would have our nation resolve the division between christianity and the muslim religion in a peaceful way, but according to the scriptures, I doubt it will happen. I suggest that all christians draw closer to the requirements stated in the Bible that as christians they must abide by. Adultery and fornication have become commonplace, even in the church. That will not be overlooked by the judge of all mankind. One can claim christianity, but their fruits will really tell the tale.

  • VBJ108

    Only Obama and the Lord knowes if he is a christian.
    He will be judged by god. Watch what he does after he
    is out of office. We did not no anything about him before
    but we will be watching you after. Wonder if he can
    quote John: 3-16.

    • Howard

      Unfortunately mr. Obama may not be removed from the office, then things will really heat up for those who are real christians. Current TV has been saying that Romney refuses to release all of his personal income tax records, How hypocritical is that? Obama has locked up all of his records. By the way, Current TV is partially owned by Al Gore

      • Daveh234

        What, Current is one channel out of a thousand and your worried about Al Gore?
        Who owns Fox News? More dangerous on all counts.

      • Paul Wells

        Howard, Obama hasn’t released any of his transcripts from his college days. He traveled to Pakistan on *some* sort of visa, but hasn’t released the details of that. What is this blatant, blatant hypocrisy that you libs have, that insist on distracting from what the issues really are, such as jobs, the crushing debt, overarching social programs that are out of control, etc. etc. The freakin’ presidential race is NOT about tax returns, it’s about how Obama has performed in office, and believe you me, none of you libs wants to talk about that one!

  • Mr. Franklin

    Obama has a good heart. Just pray to God that he will keep his faith in the name of Jesus. Obama is not perfect none of us are. Let God be the judge.

  • Mr. Franklin

    Obama has a good heart. Just pray to God that he will keep his faith in the name of Jesus. Obama is not perfect none of us are. Let God be the judge.

  • Professor

    Most of the comments refer to scripture and beliefs of their own interpretation, and ignore the fact that we are a country of laws, and not religious dogma. Giving quotes from a book considered holy say more about the ignorance of the individual than about the individual in the article. Except for scripture in these books (bible or quran), there is no evidence of any Jesus living or dying as described. Much research into historical accounts have produced no credible evidence, and one must thus conclude, this person never existed and all that is written about his “life” and his “work” is pure conjecture. Additionally, there are many who site a god and and a satan and an afterlife, but provide no proof of any of this, other than referring to either their “scripture” or their “personnal interpretation”. This only demonstrates that there is an irrational process of thought, probably brought on by ones religious beliefs, and furthered by the dogma and rituals of the cult or sect. Claims of knowing what god thinks, or how a god will act, or if someone is a christian or muslim, are all signs of mental illness. Bryan Nash claims to be seeking the truth, but can’t see the truth through his colored glasses. Hitchens said it best: “Religion poisons everything”. If the people of this world, and especially this country, would get away from this addiction called religion, the fanatacism that is expressed in these threads could be eliminated and the planet would a better place.

    • http://none Charlie

      Professor,,, thank you for your “”"Opinion”"”it has been duly noted as a lie….

      • Karolyn

        In your mind, Charlie. Everyone with a religion other than Christianity is a liar, right?

      • http://none Charlie

        Karolyn ,,,see 1 John 2:21–24 for who and what liars are,,,and there ain’t no part way lies , it’s 100% Truth or it’s a lie…
        Praise King Jesus for 100% Truth , and Mercy and forgiveness per His words…
        Read and Heed ,,,repent or perish , all ye heathens…

    • JON

      E X C E L L E N T ! ! !

      It’s always great to see a comment from a person with an intelligent, open and free thinking mind.

      I’m saddened by all the irrational postings from others. I thought by the 21st century, we would have progressed further as a species.

    • Kate8

      Professor – This thread is for commenting on above article about how Obama likes to mention his “Christian faith”. Or did you fail to read it?

      We are simply pointing out how his “Christian faith” is a myth he espouses in order to seduce the minds of the Christian community, and how those who understand Christianity can see through him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

    Obozo is a hitlerish islamist, proved it when he cancelled the national day of prayer and then held a islamic service at the White House, where he took off his shoes and knelt down and prayed to allah. allah is not the same God as the christians worship, the God of true christians said, “This is my Son in whom I’m well pleased”. allah says in the quran, I have no son, so couldn’t be the same God. Wake up people, Hitler has risen from the dead in obozo form.

  • chuckb

    kate8, you re fighting a losing battle with these bolheviks, the christian right should keep their mouth shut about abortion and morality. let the bolsheviks have abortion, that is reducing their ranks, the more they abort, look at the gift they are giving the world.

    if there is a god, i’m sure he will handle the situation and maybe he is getting rid of the bolsheviks through abortion, nice idea.

    • Kate8

      I agree, chuckb. It just gets me how abortion is their main concern, out of all of the horror going on in America. People will kill their children if that is what they want to do. We don’t need government to promote it, though.

      Yes, I do appreciate the fact that it is liberals who sacrifice their children to ghastly satanic scientific human experimentation. They place no value on innocent life at all, and we are surely better off without their offspring, anyway.

      The problem is, they are intent on corrupting the minds of our children, and their bodies and futures, as well.

      It’s diabolical.

  • Mountain Saint

    Obama is not a Born-again Christian and he proved it in a March 22, 2004 interview with Cathleen Fasani (“many paths to heaven” and “Jesus is just an historical figure to me”). Obama doesn’t even know the basics of Christianity and salvation (Jesus is more than love)…We are becoming aware that Obama is an enemy agent working for a cabal that is overthrowing secular governments all over the Middle East and Africa. They are replacing these governments with jihadists determined to annihilate Israel (Psalm 83).. Did you know that Obama has our troops at the Syrian border right now waiting for word to take Assad out?.This invasion of a sovereign country will be different from the Egyptian and Libyan operations. It probably will result in a regional nuclear war that will wipe out the Arab cities and make Israel one of the greatest nations on earth (Amos 1-2, Isaiah 17:1 and Ezekiel 29:12).

  • chuckb

    mountain saint, the muslims believe in jesus christ, they consider him one of the prophets, you have to listen closely when barry mentions jesus. ithere is no doubt in my mind, barry is a muslim in good standing, why do you think he is assisting the muslim brotherhood.
    barry soetoro is a natural born liar.and he will get us in a third world war starting in the middle east, israel better be wary., the communist jews in his administration are looking for world domination just like the muslims.

    • JON

      NO MORE A LIAR THEN YOU!

    • Mountain Saint

      chuckb, Yeshua was more than a prophet. He is God (part of the Trinity) and the eternal spirit who created the world and is now sitting at the right side of God the father (John 1). ..Obama is worshipping Allah, a created spirit, who never had a son, only two daughters………Professor, the Vatican has tons of documents proving the existence of Yeshua in Roman times. The Shroud of Turin is physical evidence of His existence and appearance. And the books written by his disciples are written testimony of his existence. ..You, too, at death, will become aware of His existence but, then, it will be too late.

      • Kate8

        Mountain – chuckb knows who Yeshua is. He is talking about the Muslim version of Jesus.

        Muslims believe that he will return with the Mahdi, and will admit that he was never God and did not die on the cross. He will pledge his loyalty to Allah and will help the Muslims kill all of the Christians and Jews still living on the Earth, and serve Allah for all time.

        Swell, huh?

      • Professor

        The vatican does indeed have tons of documents, mostly forged from previous writers or other “religions”. You might remember the “dark ages” (approx.1000 to 1500 yrs in length) when all those monastaries where busy cranking out the “official word”. The Shroud of Turin has been determined to be a fake thru scientic methods, and thus proves nothing other than someone was a creative artist using a white sheet and some paint. The Romans were very literate and many scribes existed to create historical records, and yet there is no mention of a Jesus performing all those things he is claimed to have performed, and no record or evidence that a crucifixion occurred as described, or of curtains being torn in the temple, or of darkened skies, or of dead people rising from their graves, or any of the 100′s of other myths promoted by these disciples. The first gospel written was by best estimate some 40 to 70 years after the supposed death and resurrection, and has been understood, even by the divinity scholars, that this first one and the subsequent ones were written by many different authors, none of which were named Mark,John,Luke, or Mathew. The forgery of these gospels from previous gnostics as well as from each other, has been well understood for a very long time. The concept of a trinity that you mention is irraional, and if believed, can only be the beginning of a psychosis. As I mentioned in my earlier post, there is no evidence of a god or an afterlife. And after much digging, the archeologists have found no evidence of some prophet walking the grounds of Israel, Syria, Turkey, or any of the other places claimed by “your scripture” As well, much digging through the archives of history have not turned up any evidence of a Jesus or his apostles or his “many folowers”, not to mention any of “his teachings” The facts seem to get in the way and the evidence is lacking, which makes for a deluded population of believers. Mark Twain said: “Faith is believing in something you know ain’t true” I believe in the here and now, and believe in what is real. You say “You, too, at death, will become aware of his existence…..”, which is delusional and irrational. When you die, you do not know you are dead, since your consciousness (your brain) dies with the rest of your mortal body. The chemicals that make you alive stop reacting and your become a corpse…..nothing more!! Having “faith” that you will have cognizant thought about your whereabouts after death, is “believing in something you know ain’t true”. That is all for now….I need to get busy living, while you are getting busy dying.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        There are some independent, non-biblical books that mention the historical Jesus. Historian Edwin Yamauchi calls attention to the most important reference to Jesus outside the New Testament. This proof comes from Tacitus, a Roman, who wrote that the Christians were responsible for the fire that destroyed Rome in A.D. 64. He believed that Christ had died under extreme execution during the reign of Pontius Pilatus. Yet, he stated that Christ’s death briefly checked “a most mischievous superstition,” which arose, not only in Judea, but also in Rome. He is bearing indirect testimony to the conviction of the early church that Christ who had been crucified had risen from the grave. This would explain the bizarre occurrence of a rapidly growing religion based on the worship of a man who had been crucified as a criminal. How do you explain that?

        Another source of evidence about Jesus is found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. He asks Emperor Trajan about various ways to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. He did some research regarding these Christians and this is what he came up with: They met on a certain fixed day before it was light and sang hymns to Christ, as to a god. Unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth. They bound themselves by a solemn oath to not participate in any wicked deeds, and never to commit fraud, theft, adultery, falsify their word, or deny a trust. These early Christians believed he was a real person and they held his teachings in the highest esteem. They also bound themselves to a higher oath to not violate various moral standards which is the source of the ethical teachings of Jesus.

        The writings of Josephus points out in his reference called, “Testimonium Flavianum, that “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he wrought surprising feats. He was the Christ. When Pilate condemned him to be crucified, those who had come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared restored to life. And the tribe of Christians has not disappeared.” Josephus was not a Christian. Therefore many believe that he could not have written anything such as the above statements. But, even so, we are left with details of a picture which tells us that the “biblical Jesus” and the “historical Jesus” are one and the same.

        There is also a collection of Jewish rabbinical writings that give a few clear references to Jesus called the Babylonian Talmud written approximately A.D. 70-500. The most significant reference from this period states, “On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald. . .cried, ‘He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy.’” The name, Yeshu, is actually the name, Jesus, in Hebrew. However, upon reading the passage, we know for a fact that Jesus was not hanged, but that He was crucified, but the word, “hanged” serves as a synonym for “crucified.” And what about the statement that Jesus was to be stoned? This could indicate that the Jewish leaders were planning to do just that, but the Roman Government intervened on those plans.

        Another source of writings comes from Lucian of Samosata who was a second century Greek satirist. In one of his writings, he notes as follows: “The Christians…worship a man to this day – the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account. . . . [It] was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws.”

        We know the man Lucian is writing of, and that man is Jesus. What did Jesus do to arouse such wrath? He taught men are brothers from the moment of conversion which means denying Greek gods, worshipping Jesus, and living according to His teachings.

        As we can see, these writings corroborate our knowledge of Jesus from the gospels.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        The historical documents referring to Christ’s life and work may be divided into three classes: pagan sources, Jewish sources, and Christian sources. We shall study the three in succession.

        Pagan sources

        The non-Christian sources for the historical truth of the Gospels are both few and polluted by hatred and prejudice. A number of reasons have been advanced for this condition of the pagan sources:

        The field of the Gospel history was remote Galilee;

        The Jews were noted as a superstitious race, if we believe Horace (Credat Judoeus Apella, I, Sat., v, 100);

        The God of the Jews was unknown and unintelligible to most pagans of that period;
        the Jews in whose midst Christianity had taken its origin were dispersed among, and hated by, all the pagan nations;

        The Christian religion itself was often confounded with one of the many sects that had sprung up in Judaism, and which could not excite the interest of the pagan spectator.

        It is at least certain that neither Jews nor Gentiles suspected in the least the paramount importance of the religion, the rise of which they witnessed among them.

        These considerations will account for the rarity and the asperity with which Christian events are mentioned by pagan authors. But though Gentile writers do not give us any information about Christ and the early stages of Christianity which we do not possess in the Gospels, and though their statements are made with unconcealed hatred and contempt, still they unwittingly prove the historical value of the facts related by the Evangelists.

        We need not delay over a writing entitled the “Acts of Pilate”, which must have existed in the second century (Justin, “Apol”., I, 35), and must have been used in the pagan schools to warn boys against the belief of Christians (Eusebius, Church History I.9; Church History IX.5); nor need we inquire into the question whether there existed any authentic census tables of Quirinius.

        Read the rest here, professor: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08375a.htm

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        History of crucifixion and archeological proof of the cross, as opposed to a stake.

        http://www.bible.ca/d-history-archeology-crucifixion-cross.htm

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        The Evidence For Jesus -Dr. William Lane Craig.

        http://leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/rediscover2.html

  • nancy

    I am a born-again christian and baptized in the Holy Spirit.I do enjoy reading some of your comments.For me I will pray for our leaders and let God take over. He created all things and He will not miss one thing. Let us put our trust in Him and give Him all the glory.AMEN!

    • momof7

      Amen

      • Renée

        I agree momof7. God is in control even to the end but to those that don’t believe they won’t see it coming. Lord, open the eyes of those that don’t believe!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      God has not taken you out of this world and you still live in the United States. There are Founding Documents that our Founding Fathers gave us that proclaim what our nation stands for.Since you live here you are obligated to uphold those documents for yourself, your children, and your fellow Cittizens.
      God also never told his people to be stupid.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Obama is not, a Christian! Proof? The neo-lieberal-socialist-progressives adore him. If indeed he were a true Christian, they would would despise him, and accuse him of being a confused “uncle-Tom”!!!

    • Kate8

      Jay – So true! On the one hand, the liberals continually display their utter contempt for Christians, while at the same time defending Obama’s (alleged) Christianity. Also, they attempt to use scripture to prove points.

      If they really believed Obama was Christian, you are right, they’d hate him, as well. Just like they carry on about how marvelous deviant lifestyles are, but vehemently deny Obama’s homosexuality.

      They are very confused people. Deep inside they know right from wrong, but they’ve been divorced from their spiritual nature by corruption and worship of self-gratification.

      • eddie47d

        You’ll have to ask Michelle about him being homosexual. You must love bedroom secrets like spreading around that Hillary is a lesbian. More moronic ca ca bull from the reich wingers. I’d ask you to buy a new manure spreader but it seems you are doing a mighty fine job with out it.

      • Palin16

        edduh,
        Hate to break it to you, but Hillary IS a lesbian. She has said that when she attended Wesleyan College, an all girl’s school, it was an “eye-opening experience”. Then as NY Senator campaigning for the presidency she said “as senator, my door has always been open to gays and lesbians and as president I intend to keep this policy.” Then she cut Bill off so he had to look elsewhere. Later, Bill became the only president who was made to sleep on the couch.

      • Karolyn

        Palin – Right! You KNOW that Bill was the only President to sleep on the counch. It is well known that there were presidents who were unfaithful way before Bill Clinton – JFK, Johnson, and prior. Men are men, espcially those with fame and power. Why people are so interested in others’ sex lives is beyond me. Did you actually READ Hillary’s book or just take somebody else’s word for what she wrote. I read it four years ago and don’t remember that. However, many young women experiment – Big Deal!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Kate8,

        “For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men. As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy they do not judge. Shall I not visit for these things? saith the Lord: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this? A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land; the prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?” -Jeremiah 5:26-31

      • Palin16

        Karolyn,
        The conversation went something like this:
        Bill: “Hillary…I feel your pain.”
        Hillary: “And you can sleep in the Lincoln bedroom tonight!!”
        Bill: “I can’t Hill….remember, we rented the Lincoln bedroom out to a coupla Buddhist nuns.”
        Hillary: “Then sleep on the couch!!”

      • JON

        To Palin16, All women become lesbians when dealing with you!

  • Ms.Young

    Quotable
    “The world doth scoff at what i now say, namely that a man may weep for his neighbor’s sin as for his own,or even more than for his own,for it seems to be contrary to nature .But the love which brings this about is not of this world”
    -Angela of Foligno
    A Devotion
    Ezra Chapter 9 And 10
    It is tempting, when someone we know sins,to come down hard on them.After alll we’re to discipline erring brothers,aren’t we?The more blatant the sin,the more justified we feel confronting or criticizing.
    Yet Eraz reminds us that it’s not appropriate to point the finger of judgement .What is appropriate when others sin is tears.Not tears for them.Tears that we have let God down.Tears that we the people of God have failed.
    When Ezra arrived in Judah, he learned that many Jews had taken foreign wives.This was a clear violation of Old Testament Law, and Ezra was appalled.But rather than strike out angrily at those who had sinned, Ezra identified himself with the sinner and confessed to the Lord. He did not speak of “their” but of our guilt(9:7). He did not condemn “their” disregard for God’s laws, but cried out that “we have disregarred the commands” (v.10). Rather than stand self-righteously in judgement, Ezra cried,”not one of us can stand in Your presence”(v.15). Ezra’s heart was broken by the sin that he found, and he accepted partial responsibility for the failure of men he had never even met.
    We can not read Ezra’s prayer of confession in this chapter without sensing the depth of this Godly man’s sense of
    anguish and shame. He was deeply hurt by the sins of his people: hurt for them and for God.The reality of Ezra’s hurt, expressed openly in weeping, prayer and confession, moved the men and women of Judah to confess as well-and to purge the sin from their lives.
    We are to grieve over other’s sins as well as over our own.
    By L.O.Richards

  • Tess

    Obama went to Islamic school in Indonesia. He has written in his book how he follows his father (Muslim) which he proves in his methodical destruction of the U.S.A. He can claim he is Christian but that does not make him such. His actions prove otherwise. Witness his war against the defenseless preborn child by his massive funding of the abortion company Planned Parenthood. Also his war against the Catholic Church and other Christian Churches in forcing them to fund abortifacients etc. In addition he is against normal marriage by forcing homosexual agenda and in using American Embassies around the world to take part in and promote homosexual street performances (“pride parades”) even when it is against the particular countries constitution or law. He has a superiority complex which is typical of a man who does not have a balanced background. He is missing the necessary qualities for such a position of President of the United States of America. It now appears he must lie about his so called ‘Christianity’ because Romney has selected a genuine Christian running mate. God save America. As an add on, those of you who speak of atrocities in the Bible, Old Testament, only show your ignorance when you couple that with Christianity. The New Testament is what you need to read if you want to know what the teachings of Christ say.

  • swampfox

    just some scriptures to meditate on:
    Matthew 12:33-37
    (descibes Obama and how you can know him)
    either make the tree good and his fruit good;or else make the tree CORRUPT and his fruit corrupt:FOR THE TREE IS KNOWN BY HIS FRUIT.
    o generation of vipers how can ye,being evil,speak good things?,for out of the ABUNDANCE of the heart the mouth speaketh.
    a good man,out of the good treasure of the heart,bringeth forth good things:and an EVIL man,out of the evil treasure,bringeth forth evil things.
    but I say unto you,that every idle word that men shall speak,they shall give account thereof in the day of judgement.
    for by thy words thou shalt be justified,and by thy words THOU SHALT BE CONDEMNED.
    (Obama will be judged by Jesus for every lie that has come from his evil heart and he let come.from his mouth!)
    Matthew 13:14-16
    therefore speak I to them in parables:because they seeing,SEE NOT;and hearing,they HEAR NOT;neither DO THEY UNDERSTAND.
    and IN them IS fulfilled the prophecy of isiah,which sayeth,by hearing Ye shall hear,and NOT understand;and seeing Ye shall see,and SHALL NOT PERCEIVE:
    for this peoples HEART IS WAXED GROSS,and their ears ARE DULL of hearing,and THEIR EYES THEY HAVE CLOSED;lest at any time they should SEE with THEIR eyes,and HEAR with THEIR ears,and understand WITH THEIR HEART,and SHOULD BE CONVERTED,and I should heal THEM.
    (next applies to those of us who are really saved and have given our lives over to Jesus Christ as LORD)
    But blessed ARE your eyes,for they see:and your EARS,for they hear.
    (a true born again Christian who has the holy spirit reigning in them and has been made a new creature in Christ can see Obama for what he is and that is a puppet of the devil)

    this next scripture describes Obama,
    Matthew 15:8
    this people draweth nigh unto with their MOUTH,and honoureth me with their LIPS,but their HEART IS FAR FROM ME.
    (Obama has not evened tryed to honor jehovah,not Allah who IS a false god,ie:Satan,all Obama does is lie and deceive and use scripture for his own twisted evil schemes,he is a puppet and a tool of.the devil and his illuminati masters who are also pawns of the idiot,the devil)
    Matthew 15:19
    for out of the heart proceed EVIL thoughts,murders,adulteries,FORNICATIONS,thefts,false witness,BLASPHEMIES..
    (Obama in a nutshell,oh yeah you librals will no doubt say others have done this,yeah,blah,blah,I am speaking of Obama here,not anybody else,so don’t change the subject)

    another that decribes Obama:
    Matthew 24:4
    and Jesus said unto them,”take heed that NO MAN DECEIVE you.
    (yeah,I know this speakes of false christened,but it also means watch out for receivers like Obama,who are like those in Matthew 23:27,I knew what he was from the first moment I saw him,a pawn of the devil,Don’t like.what I am.saying,well tough,the truth will set you free!)

    well I got to get ready to go to church and worship and praise my saviour,jehovah jireh,Jesus,the king of kings and lord of lords,the alpha and omega,bright and morning star,my rock,bread of life and living water,the living word,emmamuEL,my bridegroom,the cheif cornerstone,the godly of salvation,the true light,lord of hosts,the way,the TRUTH and the LIFE,
    unfilled I come back and.annoy you libs with some more truth,bye.

  • swampfox

    Obama joke:
    Obama and michille are sitting in air force one and Obama blurts out to michelle,
    “Uh uh Yah know uh i could uh throw a one thousand doller Bill out of the plane and make somebody very happy.”
    Michelle says back,”well i.could throw ten one hundred doller bills out and make ten people happy.”

    the pilot overhears this and says to his co-pilot,”I could throw them both out of this plane and make everybody in.America happy.”

  • JustAnotherJoe

    Well, if Obama is claiming to be a “Christian” (cough, cough), he should remember well the verse that says that “you will know them by their fruits”. I would say, then, that Obama’s fruits are good and rotten to the core.

    • momof7

      Maybe you should reread Gal.5:22-23. “love,joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.” Those are the fruits of the spirit that you will know a person by.

  • Mountain Saint

    Let’s see how Christian Obama is after the November election, win or lose….BTW your Moses Levy (Hitler) was actually a self-hating Jew, just like so many Leftist politicians of today. He never was a Christian….Professor, did you know that there are many Bible Code messages in and under both the Old and New Testaments that state in so many words that Yeshua is God or Lord?

  • JON

    THIS PAGE IS THE ANTICHRIST!
    It’s full of the most unChristian statements towards Obama I’ve seen, and it’s from those who seem to claim their “Christianity”. You wouldn’t know Jesus if he was standing right in front of you!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Would you?

  • Thinking About

    “Christians” sometimes has problems in recognizing other christians just as they have a problem recognizing each other in the liquor store.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      It should be “have”, not, “has”, dumbbell.

      • Thinking About

        Wrong, try again.

  • Dixie

    If obama is a christian he will not go for same sex marriage and he will not be a believer of Islam and tell so many lies and destroy our freedoms and country the way he has. You are know by the company you keep, and obama is surrounded by thugs, crooks, liars and drug cartel from Mexico so he is now claiming he is a christian then he has to prove it remember you reap what you sow by your works you are known. He has not shown me anything but evil doing and that is not Jesus.

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