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Obama continues to push healthcare reform

July 23, 2009 by  

President Obama is adamant that Congress embrace his healthcare reform proposals and continues to work to push the issue forward.

Obama communicated that he understood many in Congress were opposed to his reform plans, telling press and officials "I know that there are those in this town who openly declare their intention to block reform." He maintains that he will keep his attention focused on helping the American people.

"We can choose action over inaction," he explained, urging the wary to approve his point of view. "We can build on the extraordinary common ground that’s been forged, and we can do the hard work needed to finally pass the health insurance reform that the American people deserve."

It seems that Obama also wants to remind Congress and the public that his plans are intended to unite, not divide those of opposing views, working for the greater good. "I look forward to working with Congress in the days ahead to getting the job done," he said.
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  • Mike Snyder

    Obamas’ “health care.”
    Obama’s vagueness is intended because he certainly doesn’t want you to know what he has in store for seniors, the uninsured and the poor. He, his wife, and his PR man, Axelrod, are the undisputed master s of hiding bad motives under grandiose euphemistic rhetoric. So if you want to know what’s in store for the tired, the poor and the huddled masses yearning to get well under the Obamas’ health care plans, see what they have done in the recent past. First, google Urban Health Initiative and you will be led to the U of Chicago Hospital’s home page which describes in the most heavenly prose how the U of C’s UHI matches up indigent uninsured ER patients with neighborhood clinics and health care providers suited to their specific needs. Beautiful, n`cest pas? And, who would have believed it, this UHI also frees up the UC’s ER and beds of the impecunious and unwashed for the Blue Cross crowd. What a win-win coincidence. No wonder that this brain child of hosp. v.p. Michelle Obama got her a whopping big raise as the ebb of the ER’s blood was stopped and the millions of donations and federal grants came pouring in. Hubby was a senator at the time. Now, as you read the hypnotic prose, a feeling of déjà vu may come over you. Yes you have heard the same drivel before from the mouth of our President. Why? because the President’s mouthpiece, David (the shadow) Axelrod is also the PR man for the U of C’s UHI.
    Now, before you lose the warm fuzzy glow of the UHI’s description., go to Fox news and look at Ainsley Earhart’s expose on the UHI, including the remarks of Senator Grassley and the South Chicago congressman Bobby Rush. I saw this first on Hannity on 7/22. The UHI it appears, is nothing more than a euphemistically promoted program of patient dumping. Just for one example, a mother brings her 12 yr old son, freshly badly mauled by a pit bull to the ER for much needed emergency treatment. But what does he get: an injection and the door. His mother, knowing better, drives for an hour to another hospital where his lacerations are properly sutured and dressed.
    I’m 70 with heart disease, diabetes, spinal stenosis — worst of all I’m afflicted with conservative individualism. The wife has MS and together we pay 400 per month for our Blue Cross medicare supplement with choice of docs and hospitals – no deductible or co-pay. I’ve seen the buildings housing the neighborhood clinics to which the U of C “refers” its patients under its magnanimous UHI. They look like things Tony Rezko couldn’t sell.
    So I see myself and my wife sitting in one of these dumps hoping to get another stent for my heart or a gamma knife procedure for her trigeminal nerve. I’ve been gripping my referral form from the Obama health experts, Drs. Kervorkian and Murray, anxiously awaiting our fates. So, after a two hour wait, we walk out with two Tylenol tabs and a follow up in six months.
    If this goes through and Blue Cross gives up, I’m a walking dead man. Why ARPA is falling for this tripe, I have no idea.

    • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

      Dear Comment,,,

      Like to response to you,,,You have a idee,,,Wat you have said,,,ABOUT THIS THE OBAMA FAMILY,,,LET ME TELL YOU,,,I’m fighting mine Brain Cancer from 2008,,,And I’m from the Netherlands,,,I’m sal paid 45%for mine HEALTH CARE,,,
      And ore Gov,,,doing every thing,,,,And if you have a problem with Your health Care,,,,Please look on the internet,,for Treatments and Support,,,The is a lots out,,
      Wat is free ,,,I’m have all mine Health and Hospitals free,,,on NOVOCURE,,,
      This is a support for up proof treatments If you look good arond you can come alots futher,,,But,,not doing Wat are you doing now,,,Complain,,Complain ,,,Grow up

      Margaret Fulmore

      • Robin, Arcadia, IN

        Margaret… I don’t think Mike is complaining. It sounds like he is being realistic in his comments. I am not too far from retirement age, and I shudder to think how things are going to change.

      • veronique

        Margaret ..I don’t think Mike is complaining either … I sugest you are going back to Netherlands with the social medecin… so you like the Gov control you and tell you when you will not get treament ?

        • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

          **Excuus me? You need to got your self checking out,,,
          I’m can speak up,,,If I’m won, You have a problem….Got all a live,

          Margaret

          I
          **

      • http://naver samurai

        Hello everyone. Well, here we go again with another “government needs to help us”
        person like Margaret. Margaret, if you really have the things you say, I feel for you.
        My father has lung cancer from smoking and abdominal cancer from drinking. But, I have to strongly disagree with you on this matter. I’m a retired infantry soldier of 20
        years and 3 months with the army, so I get a pension. A pension doesn’t go far these days, believe me. I also work hard at my job, who also takes $50.00 a month from my pay for insurance. I also have a policy at another insurance company which costs a heck of a lot more than that, but it is worth it. Though it takes about 15% of my pay it is worth it. If you have been living in the states and working here, why don’t you have any insurance? If a person works in this country, they shouldn’t have the government helping them, but they should be helping themselves. If I can do this, while supporting a wife and 4 kids, so could have you. I don’t believe in socialism. Though it seems all well and good, but it soon turns into a monster to where it costs more to insure people than it costs to make new weapons for the military. Also, in order to fund these programs, though the fool liberals won’t admit this, they will have to raise taxes on every American. I remember when Hillary (Don’t get me started on her.) planned the same thing. It would make 30,000 new beaurocrats, HMO’s would be mandatory (No more family physician.), and she admitted it would cost the average American $3000 – $5000 more a year in taxes. Do you want to pay a heck of a lot more in taxes? Were you born crazy or did you just grow up that way? I refuse to pay such higher taxes because certain people (Not all people) won’t buy insurance, but will just sound like spoiled little children and do nothing to help their own situation. Remember what our founding fathers said: “The United States Government shall not prop up, by any financial or material means, any minority group.” This means if you group is less than 50% of the U.S. population, you get no help at all. Why? Because they even knew, more than 200 years ago, the same things we know now about these programs. 1. Easy to get into. 2. Hard to get out of, just like a bad habit. 3. The average person will be weighed down with massive amounts of taxes. This will make it harder for people to support their families, thus more people entering the programs. Making the monster bigger and bigger. If we did things according to our founding fathers, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now, or it might just be smaller. If you have any comments, please make them in good taste. If they include gender, race, or religion, please keep these comments to yourself.

        • http://BobLivingston Marie

          I agree with you but I am a senior who is living on $1500 a month I should get $1600 but the government takes out $98.00 for medicare.I had to take out a reverse mortage on my house to be able to live.I worked alot of years to pay it off.I drive a 15 year old car also.I have heart problems,eye problems,foot problems,ear problems allergy,Can not eat what I want cause my stomache is sensitive.Sometimes my hands hurt and the sun makes me sick and I can’t drive at night because i can’t see then.I can not fix things for my house and can not afford to hire anyone if it costs very much.When I get somthing fixed the idiots always screw it up and have to come back three times to get it right.How can I worry about someone who does not even want to be a citizen of the U.S.A. or learn to speak English?The Vietnamese leaned and wanted to belong to my country.Illegals want all the rights free.I am 74 years old and learned this computer.Babies can learn to read also it’s a fact. I have no one to hold my hand. My family and friends fought hard in war time for this country and now the stupid government is ruining our country.GOD BLESS AMERICA AGAIN

  • s c

    It’s far too late for B O to be specific (what a transparency-loving guy). When someone has as many things to hide as does b o, it pays to keep details in the dark. Most likely, no one in this screwy administration understands b o’s health reform. Passing this self-destructive legislation in a hurry is more important than doing it right. B O and his flunkies have no self-respect or credibility. Their
    hatred of openness is worth a TV series or a novel. Never before has an administration dared to use a Ponzi scheme as a blueprint. Seniors, B O wants you to view suicide as a sacrifice. Tell him what he can do with it, and where he can put it.

    • http://www.sylviasmart.com Sylvia Smart

      I believe that Obama is very transparent – I can see right through him! Glenn Beck is absolutely accurate in his description of Barak Obama. This “community organizer” hates American and all that it stands for. His wife was very vocal about her hate of America and her shame of being an American. This is his opportunity to destroy our country systematically. He is a product of hatemongers i.e., the Reverend Wright – the premier racist of our century, and his communist, marxist friends that he has bonded with his entire life. He is also a Jew hater and wants to destroy Israel and the judeo/christian foundation of our country. He told the Arabs that America is no longer a Christian nation, but one of the largest Islamic Countries – which is an outright lie. His comments about the cop in Cambridge and Obama’s radical, left-wing professor friend who intentionally picked this fight, were very calculated and planned. He knew exactly what he was doing – it wasn’t “uncalibrated”. This incident was orchestrated to provide more hatemongering and racial divisions between blacks and whites, and to support the agenda of those who would divide our country. In Obama’s speech to the NAACP in 2004 he was very transparent about not wanting anything i.e., reparations, that would let the whites “off the hook”, and about not wanting equality for blacks. He said that “equality” was not what the blacks need – what they need and what he promised them was preferential status in all walks of American life. Just like his health care program that will prohibit white students from studying medicine, and slots in medical schools will go only to minorities who are people of color. Any medical school that doesn’t reserve all of its openings for minority people of color will not receive any government funding or support for any of their programs. He plans to shut down all the Catholic Hospitals nationwide unless they agree to perform abortions on demand, and hire only black doctors! We are headed for a Revolution in America – and people need to wake up and get themselves prepared for the long haul. Remember the basics: Food, Shelter, Weapons, Communications. This is no longer speculation or rhetoric – this is reality. This man and his thugs have trashed the Constitution of the United States, installed a radical judicial advocate on the supreme court, and no one has blinked. We are a nation of fools glued to our televisions and listening to Celebrity/Facist controlled Media who distract us by celebrating the lives of abortionists and pedophiles!! These are simply the facts. By the time we take our country back – there will be little left that is recognizable. We will be forced to start from scratch and it will be a long winter of arresting and incarcerating these traitors of American Liberty. Sarah Palin is smart to detach herself from all forms of the current Federal and State Government systems. More Americans need to be armed and trained. The Obamanites know this – why do you think Obama appointed Napolitano in charge of Homeland Security? She immediately put our soldiers coming home on her hit list of undesirables that need to be watched! When she was in Arizona she took every opportunity to undermine law and order and promote illegal aliens. As the Congress sinks into the muck of Chicago Style Politics and Obama disarms our country and dismantles our borders to let in his urban supporters and his new urban army of enforcers are recruited for ACORN training camps – we need to get ready! We will need brave new common sense leaders, and people who love our Country and are willing to save Democracy and Freedom at all costs. I believe that educated, thinking Black Americans are not going to continue to embrace the Obama insanity. They want to live in a free country too. Obama wants all blacks to be lumped into that urban, uneducated, third generation welfare mentality that he can manipulate with his slick rhetoric and psychological control. That is why Obamanites and his Congressinal Porkulists are so afraid of Sarah Palin. Their fear is so obvious as they think they have forced her out of politics now! They systematically persecuted her and her family, and maligned her. She could easily become our first post revolutionary leader! We need new leaders like Palin who say what they mean and mean what they say! Not those soft old men in congress who are afraid of Nancy Palosi and Rom Emanual. I am glad that Obama has alienated policemen all over the country and alienated our military. I have heard first hand how much they resent being made to applaud the President when he shows up – for his photo-op moments with Military personnel. Most military men and women understand what he is doing to our country – and they will not be shooting into protester crowds like cops and military personel do in Teheran or China. Our Marines are not robots. They may be our last hope in getting this egomaniac dictator out of office. We know the elections are not an option – ACORN is charged with taking the census and producing Obama votes from thin air or from the cemetaries.
      I lived under a socialist democracy and lived under a national health care system. It was absolutely terrible. My father died at age 52 because bone marrow transplants were too experiemental and expensive. My full-term baby died because there were no obstetricians on duty at the hospital – only midwives, and C-sections are rarely done because it is cheaper for the state to lose an occasional child or mother then to provide C-sections! One of my friends died at age 23 as she bled to death in the recovery room after a tonsilectomy – no qualified nurses or doctors were staffing the post surgery recovery room – too expensive! Another friend died at age 32 from a sinus infection that spread to his brain because after sitting for hours in a waiting room for care, he was sent home and told to “steam” his sinuses and use saline nasal drops! He left a wife and a baby behind. When someone writes on these blogs how wonderful socialized medicine is – it is because they have never been deathly ill and needed quality care to survive. They were lucky! It was also very expensive and taken right out of my paycheck – as a percentage of my pay. We had no choices of doctors or hospitals or anything else! People who say otherwise are liars and I suspect they are working for Obama and told to unindate these blogs with ficticious information. Get ready Americans – the time is coming when we will stand up and say “Enough!”

      • http://msn Freckles

        Sylvia, You are right on the money, nice to see someone who is keeping up! This guy is trying to take over this country, and he has a very limited time frame to do it in, as the American pple will catch on, so he has to fast forward everything.

    • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

      Sorry Mike..This Margaret I’m hoop every thing come good,,,If you need Health Care ,Please check NOVOCURE.COM OUT.

      Greets
      Margaret

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    Hello”’I’m like to Response,,up all this trass Wat,,I’m Hear and see in the USA,,
    So..I’m a European from The Netherlands,,,and whee have Health Care,,,Yes
    But”’every thing going THRUE ORE GOV,,,You like this,,,,I’m think not so…
    Whee are PAID 45%TAX,,,,for Health Care,,,and Whee are Paid a lots thing for TAX,,
    Now I’m live in the USA…Wat are complain you are have,,,In the USA,,,,
    Whee have a good Leader,,,Hi is now 7Months in the House,,,Hi come in a mest…
    And hi is fighting for the right thing ,,,But,,I’m know Wat the problem is here?
    Whee have a Black Leader,,,and Master,,,And this is the problem for a lots White ,
    See arond here With LAW,,,COPS,,,Wat is the problem,,,? Not to matter Wat is RACES,,,,I’m not belief this,,,Why every Body look back,,,,You like to paid 45%TAX,,,
    AND GOV DOING EVERY THING,,,,This is a free Countery and I’m love it here,,,

    Please think and be free

    GOD BLESS THE USA

    Margaret Fulmore

    • CandyB

      Yeah and we would like to remain FREE! Which is not what BO wants. If your country did things so well, why are you HERE?

      • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

        You ask me?…You are funny,,,,We are a Air Force Family….Understand,,,
        And This have nothing to With you,,,

        Margaret

        • CandyB

          I am a USA citizen, so it has everything to do with me. I am a nurse, so I am even more concerned. I am sorry you are fighting brain cancer, but that makes it even more important for you that this Healthcare Bill does not pass. Have you even researched it? BO is not and never will be my master, nor will the government.

      • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

        Sorry have sum respeck I’m fighting mine Brain Cancer,,,

        Margaret

        • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

          **Dear CandyB

          Thanks,,I’m a Nurse,,to.from the Netherlands,,,,
          And Wat about mine treatments and Medication are from Novocure.com

          Look up,,Maby you got a Idee,,,,

          Thanks,,,and Sorry it Was not mean to

          Margaret

    • http://msn Freckles

      This is a free republic, and we would like to keep it that way. we don’t want to socialize this country any more than it already is. I am glad you love this country, but we want to live with out the racial slurs that Obama is initiating. Obama is a radical community organizer and now he is trying to organize this country.

      Read the book “Rule’s for Radicals” by Saul Alinski, and you will know exactly what Obama stands for, this is about a take over of our country, the government owns banks, car companies, and now he wants the government to own another 30% of our economy through the take over of our Health Care system.

    • Robin, Arcadia, IN

      Margaret… You misunderstand people’s opinions and are labeling them as complaints. We have had many soldiers die so that we can remain a free country and be able to voice our opinions. Many of us do not want the government to dictate our everyday lives. The government was not supposed to be as involved in our lives as they are becoming. I don’t know what kind of leaders you have lived under in the past, but Barry (I have read this is his real name) is not a good leader. I respect the office of the president, but I don’t have to bow to the man. And if you think I am racist, I am not. I think Alan Keyes would have made a great president!

      • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

        None Comment…to you,,,,

    • http://personalliberty Lisa

      Margaret, please learn how to spell and use proper grammar. If this is what the government has given you in the form of education you can keep it, I’ll keep my freedom!

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    Hello”’I’m like to Response,,up all this trass Wat,,I’m Hear and see in the USA,,
    So..I’m a European from The Netherlands,,,and whee have Health Care,,,Yes
    But”’every thing going THRUE ORE GOV,,,You like this,,,,I’m think not so…
    Whee are PAID 45%TAX,,,,for Health Care,,,and Whee are Paid a lots thing for TAX,,
    Now I’m live in the USA…Wat are complain you are have,,,In the USA,,,,
    Whee have a good Leader,,,Hi is now 7Months in the House,,,Hi come in a mest…
    And hi is fighting for the right thing ,,,But,,I’m know Wat the problem is here?
    Whee have a Black Leader,,,and Master,,,And this is the problem for a lots White ,
    See arond here With LAW,,,COPS,,,Wat is the problem,,,? Not to matter Wat is RACES,,,,I’m not belief this,,,Why every Body look back,,,,You like to paid 45%TAX,,,
    AND GOV DOING EVERY THING,,,,This is a free Countery and I’m love it here,,,

    Please think and be free

    GOD BLESS THE USA

    Margaret Fulmore

  • http://none Pat Mencke

    There are single payer health systems in at least 30 other Democracies, and people love them. See below from a minister in Oregon.

    FRIDAY 24 JULY 2009

    OPINION

    American Health Care: The View From Expatriate Who Came Home
    Monday 20 July 2009
    by: Roger J. Newell  |  Visit article original @ The Oregonian
        As the health care reform debate revs up, the vested interests in the status quo warn against any alterations that might damage “the world’s best health care system.” In the 1980′s I was a temporary resident in Great Britain, first as a graduate student, later as a pastor.
        I’ll never forget feeling anxious about how I would survive the “socialized” medicine against which I had been repeatedly warned. What I discovered instead was an absence of the anxieties that American families continue to endure 20 years later: worries over losing coverage or being able to afford quality care when it’s urgent.
        These nagging dreads were simply nonexistent among the people with whom I was now living and serving. Of course they had concerns about health, but they were of an entirely different order.
        What helps me explain the difference to Americans who have not lived in Europe is an analogy with the public school system. Setting aside for the moment the important debates about funding and the possibilities of private options, the fact remains that Americans simply assume their kids will attend school through high school as a universal entitlement of democracy. We can’t imagine any child being denied an education because of a parent’s misfortune in losing his or her job for whatever reason. The British (along with the rest of Europe) regard health care the way we regard education.
        Gradually, however, I saw something deeper at work in a society where everyone had a right to health care. I witnessed how the privilege of universal health care had awakened a common sense of duty toward my neighbor and mutual respect for one another, causing a tangible awareness that everyone was treated with a fundamental equality, not as an abstract motto repeated on patriotic occasions but as practical as walking into the local doctor’s office or hospital when you or a family member were ill. In other words, my personal self-worth was bound together with a respect for my neighbor’s worth (and health) as well.
        Of course, universal health care doesn’t guarantee that British children (or parents) don’t get sick, any more than universal education means all kids graduate at the top of their class. But since the devastation of World War II, the British (and the rest of Europe) became convinced that health care belonged alongside education as an intrinsic quality of life in a democratic society. It had become a fundamental obligation of any government that serves and protects its people, to be supported and protected along with education, law enforcement, fire departments and national defense. For all her admiration of Ronald Reagan, Conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher never dreamed of eliminating this fundamental part of what it meant to be British. She would have been swept from office.
        As a working pastor in that culture for eight years, it’s hard for me to express to Americans how good it felt to know that everyone in my church (and in my city, for that matter) received quality health care, whether rich or poor, over-employed, underemployed or unemployed. It gave us a sense of mutual support that cut across class distinctions, economic levels and religious differences. In over a decade I never met anyone – not a doctor, a nurse, a young person or someone elderly – who envied the American system. It was quite the opposite. To them we seemed trapped in a system that was too full of self-interest, fatally constructed to profit from the sick rather than to serve them. In recent years as a college teacher I’ve taken many student groups to countries throughout Europe, and repeatedly the Europeans have expressed to me how strange our health care system appears to them as a contradiction of America’s founding promise to provide a government of the people by the people and for the people.
        “Your government has ignores that it pledges life as well as liberty. Doesn’t that imply access to good health care,” they would ask. “Surely health care is a basic prerequisite for any ‘pursuit of happiness’ worthy of your founding ideals.”
        It isn’t only the British, with their single-payer scheme. From Spain to Germany to the Scandinavians (and back again to our neighbor Canada) maturing democracies have implemented a variety of strategies to cover the entire population. Again and again, this practice concretely demonstrates to fellow citizens how mutual respect in a maturing democracy has migrated from the ballot box once every couple of years to the family living space of each citizen every day of their lives.
        Paradoxically, our current financial mismanagement and Wall Street-run health care inefficiencies may have brought us to a crisis that is our best opportunity to repair the black hole at the center of our social fabric, one into which 45 million of our fellow Americans have fallen and which swallows more every month. There are special interests who paper over this black hole with the label “freedom of choice.” Together with the inertia of the discouraged they collude to deny for this country what every other advanced democracy in the world gratefully enjoys. But surely it is possible for Americans to weave together a health care system that exemplifies our historic “can-do” attitude and binds us together as citizens committed to ingenuity, respect and compassion.
        As an American who has lived abroad, I believe the implementation of universal coverage is a quality-of-life issue whose time has come. But it hinges on whether we have evolved a critical mass with sufficient empathy to realize that my neighbor’s health care, like my neighbor’s education, profoundly affects my own; that it is in our mutual best interest to have a health care system that serves us all, especially the most vulnerable among us.
    ——–   
        Roger J. Newell teaches in the Religion Department at George Fox University. For 12 years he lived with his family in Durham, England, and Aberdeen, Scotland.
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    I have lived in Italy for
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 09:08 — BG (not verified)
    I have lived in Italy for over 50 years and can testify that the health care under a state program is very, very good. Doctors here are on the cutting edge of treatment as they have a vast experience, given the number of cases they see. Thirty years ago my husband was successfully treated for cancer and given intereron injections for a year…FREE! Last year my brother suffered a stroke and has re gained his health and confidence, thanks to the excellent supervision by his hospital medical team…FREE Ok, so the food might not be 4 star… but then again – your sick, not on holiday!
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    AMEN BROTHER!! I am an
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 09:49 — Anonymous (not verified)
    AMEN BROTHER!! I am an American and I also live outside of the states. Since 1999 I have lived in the heartland of Russia, in the foothills of the Ural Mountains. I would not trade my health coverage here for anything in the states!
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    As another American who has
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 10:07 — Anonymous (not verified)
    As another American who has lived/worked in Germany (also as a pastor) for 8 years and now with a daughter who lives/works in Belgium, I totally agree with the comments made by Mr. Newell. In addition, I have taken choirs that I direct on tours to Europe and have, on a few occasions, had to take some of the young singers to the emergency room – one with a broken arm. No one asked any questions, such as, “what is your insurance company, what does your coverage include or who will pay for this?” Treatment was offered immediately and never was a bill presented. Try doing that in the US with a European choir on tour in the US! It is more than high time that one of the leading nations of the world offers the same possibility for the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Thank you, Mr. Newell for your cogent insight.
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    I am also an American
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 10:54 — Judy F. (not verified)
    I am also an American expatriate, but I have lived in the Netherlands for the last twelve years. My experience mirrors that of Dr. Newell. I have never known anyone who was denied medical coverage here, nor anyone who worried about their coverage. You simply show up to your family doctor, who has drop-in hours every single day, if something is wrong. He helps determine the next steps, whether that be himself, a prescription, a specialist. Even after seeing him or a specialist and/or filling a prescription, no money changes hands and there is no deductible. The supposed horrors of socialized medicine, e.g., waiting lists, denied coverage, substandard care, have been propaganda promoted by the for-profit health care industry who stands to loose their substantial profits if universal coverage is implemented. I am planning to move back to the US this year, and my biggest fear about the move is already the kind of health care coverage we will find there. Some Americans believe that their health care system is so superior to the worlds, yet no one else in the world is envying them.
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    Again, thank you Mr Newell.
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 12:46 — Anonymous (not verified)
    Again, thank you Mr Newell. Let me add my voice to yours. I have spent 30 years living and working in Europe (France, Germany, Spain & the UK) and have enjoyed the excellent care of the health systems in each country plus others. Working in the medical field, I have also worked with doctors and members of the medical profession… all of whom support the health systems in their country. The doctors and nurses are well trained (some of them better than that of US staff) and are well paid. They respect their patients and the emphasis is on preventive health and staying well. Prescriptions are covered as are all the incidental costs. Wait lists vary in some areas but are no different from that of the USA, and in some cases are even quicker. I just had my knee replaced. It was scheduled in less than week after our ( my surgeon and myself) decision. I was in the hospital (2 bed ward with private bath, telephone etc) for 3 days and returned home with all the support equipment and medical help needed. I was walking after a week without canes. Physical therapy continued for 4 months. All expenses including transportation, home support, medicines and equipment were covered under the UK NHS progam. Nine months later I was back on the tennis courts playing doubles at my local Club. This is normal for us in Europe. My wife and I once considered retiring in the States but decided against it as there is no medical support program available in the States other than the insurance companies and that is “iffy” and expensive at best. Aftere considering the quality of life, the medical support, education plus the opportunities to enjoy life, we prefer to live in and enjoy Europe. Americans deserve better than they are getting from their system and government. Pity getting from you system
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    My mother who lives in
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 12:58 — Jean-Louis Gariepy (not verified)
    My mother who lives in Canada got very sick a few days ago. She had an ulcer in her colon that was bleeding profusely. She went to a small hospital north of Montreal. She was on the surgey table the day after, receiving the best possible care. Her doctor gave me a call in North Carolina (where I have been living for 20 years) to let me know of what he had done and of her good recovery from surgery. And of course she was not charged a penny. It is quite disingenuous to hear those adds on CNN and other TV channels in the US portraying the Canadian system as “Long delays, no choice of doctors, and care denied.” All in the service of scaring gullible Americans from the “Public option” (a far cry from universal payer) now on the table for deliberation in congress. Some years ago I had a heart attack in Laguardia Airport, was taken to a hospital, had to wait a full week for angioplasty before I could return home. All through the week in the hospital, as doctors were looking for another hospital that could do the procedure, I was asked for my insurance papers (being told not to worry, that with insurance I was assured of receiving the care I needed). The hospital that finally did the procedure misread my insurance card as provided by Blue Shield Blue Cross of New York (I am a resident of NC). Needless to say that coverage was denied. Two days after my return home I received a call from a Collection agency: They wanted immediately from me $130,000! The first question they asked me was: “Sir do you own a house?” I said no, but had I had one they were ready to take it from me! It took me two months to get things straight. In the meanwhile they continued harassing me non stop. I can only thank God I did not have another heart attack.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    Mr. Newell is right. The US
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 13:36 — Dr. Bernard Lammers (not verified)
    Mr. Newell is right. The US is generations behind the other democracies in health care. As President Obama said last night, we pay much more but do not have better health. It is outrageous that insurance companies profit from peoples’ desperate need for care.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    My parents were refugees to
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 13:56 — jwitts (not verified)
    My parents were refugees to England from Czechoslovakia in 1939; My father died when I was four. My mother worked morning to night as a dressmaker, but without socialized medicine and excellent grammar schools, she would have have been able to provide a decent life for us. I had never heard of anyone being denied medical care for any reason until I came to the United States at the age of seventeen.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    Its time for the main stream
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 14:10 — Anonymous (not verified)
    Its time for the main stream media to become involved. For a century insurance companies and the AMA have lied to us, giving false information about government run health care. They have been backed up by those in government who feed at their hand. This cycle of payoffs to congress in exchange for false testimony has to stop. The media must become involved in the national debate. Tell the truth. Its high time for the American news outlet to tell the truth and stop the “government run health care is communism” scare. As stated in the article the government runs education and its worked out well. As a matter of fact the government runs a lot of things we take for granted and we just don’t seem to notice. I was working in Zimbabwe a decade ago and a man I was working with became terribly ill. We had to drive about a half an hour to a hospital not knowing if he would live or die in the car. We got to the hospital and he was treated so well we were surprised. He stayed in the hospital for a week and was completely cured of a serious bacterial infection common in that part of Africa. When I was picking him up we were asking where to go to pay the bill. They didn’t know what we were talking about. After a while they explained that there was not bill, he could just go.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    And another one I have
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 14:23 — John Crane (not verified)
    And another one I have lived in Prague for 21 years – and I have learned that just as there are bad stories here about health care, there are bad stories in the US. Medicine is not foolproof, so no matter what the system, we will always be able to find an example of when a treatment failed or a doctor misdiagnosed someone with tragic consequences. That being said, I love the Czech health system. They have some of the world’s most advanced heart and cancer treatments, as well as some of the world’s best MRI equipment, including a non-invasive colonoscopy! Part of the problem is the myth that Americans have the most advanced technology in the world. It is interesting that one of the Czechs MRIs may make it so patients having brain surgery could be put to sleep (not permanently), and I think that Americans would be surprised to know that after 9/11 and Katerina, the US sent bodies to Bosnia for identification because they have the world’s top labs. There are a lot of advantages to state controlled medicine – and I think that the Republican strategy of finding singular horror stories as evidence of the flaw of the whole system is a logical fallacy that the press SHOULD easily see through.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    Like others in this forum, I
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 16:00 — Anonymous (not verified)
    Like others in this forum, I lived abroad (the UK) for a while and can’t tell you how good it was to know that I could go to the doctor when I needed to without worrying about cost or a doctor’s availability. I got good, prompt care, something I can’t say I get here even with “good” health insurance. Most Americans have never lived abroad. Please don’t fall for the horror stories.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    The scary part is that this
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 16:27 — Anonymous (not verified)
    The scary part is that this Repugnican garbage and scare tactics actually resonate with so many people. Fear of some “government bureaucrat boogieman” when the real boogiemen are these corporate bureaucrats who will deny care simply to improve insurance company PROFITS. It has nothing to do with people, it is all about MONEY. The Pharmas spend more on advertising than they do on research — think about that one… We need single payer healthcare for everyone in this country — we need to take these $50 million dollar Insurance Company executives and put some of that money into the care for a few hundred thousand children who think “seeing the doctor” is going to the emergency room.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    Excellent! Thank you,
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 17:27 — Floresta (not verified)
    Excellent! Thank you, truthout posters for your stories and insights. I will be sending this article to friends and family. Please, please, write letters to your local newspapers to counter the lies, lies and damn lies being put out by Pharma, the AMA, and Insurance lobbies!!! The ignorance of most people in this nation is simply amazing!
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    The most positive,uplifting
    Thu, 07/23/2009 – 18:07 — Anonymous (not verified)
    The most positive,uplifting article & comments I have read on this subject.Thank you Pastor Newell,and those who added their experiences later.Perhaps posting this article to our members of Congress may help convince them NOT to shortchange or water down the major shift in thinking required to initiate a single payer system. Of course we expect waste and fraud to be severely dealt with,but removing Corporate(Insurance/Pharmaceutical & other medical interest)financial input from our Congress is paramount to the changes we seek!
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    I did my PhD in Canada and
    Fri, 07/24/2009 – 03:36 — Anonymous (not verified)
    I did my PhD in Canada and lived there from 1976 through 1980. Here is how health care works up there. You register, get a card that identifies you as eligible for care. If you get sick or injured you go to a hospital or a doctor of your choice and you get care. There is no bill and everything is covered. What the Right says about delays and long waiting are all lies. In fact I have waited in my doctor’s office in the US when I had a scheduled appointment much longer than I ever did in Nova Scotia. We need single payer, after all we are the only supposedly First World country that doesn’t have it.
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    I am a surviving victim of
    Fri, 07/24/2009 – 05:08 — windskull (not verified)
    I am a surviving victim of Frist family operated strictly for profit federally funded through tax dollar HCA health(?)care University Hospital Denver CO where they turned what should have been a 2 day procedure for a stress induced bowel obstruction into a 30 day nightmare with 14 in ICU for post-op infections after they botched and had to repeat surgery 5 times and without informed consent implanted a discontinued FDA recalled surgical mesh in 2002 for which I will til death bear a grapefruit diameter hideous foul smelling non-healing permanent open wound and the worst part Bush blocked litigation and even though the SCOTUS ruled for patients a few months ago nobody will lift a finger to make me whole for this atrocity in rural America!
    • EMAIL THIS COMMENT
    I’m an American expat
    Fri, 07/24/2009 – 08:26 — George Glasser (not verified)
    I’m an American expat resident of the UK for almost ten years. All in all, for what it is, the socialised medicine works well. As with most things political, the richer areas of the UK get better service and more modern hospitals; however, no one is left out of the picture. The average person isn’t facing bankruptcy if the fall ill, and no one is sent out on the street to die for lack of insurance or funds. Of course, socialised medicine comes at a cost to the taxpayer, but in the long run, if you’re faced with a catastrophic illness or life-threatening injury, you don’t have to sell your soul to pay the medical bills. And you don’t have to fight with an insurance company who is more concerned with satiating the shareholders lust for fat dividends.

    • http://msn Freckles

      WHO ARE YOU PPLE? IF YOU WANT TO VOICE YOUR OPINION THEN GIVE US A NAME, NOT JUST A BUNCH OF SOCIALIST JUNK!!!!!!

  • FRW

    A new Rasmussen Reports poll shows that President Barack Obama’s rating in Rasmussen’s Presidential Approval Index has hit negative double digits for the first time.

    The survey found that 29 percent of voters strongly approve of Obama’s job performance, while 40 percent strongly disapprove.

    Rasmussen calculates its Presidential Approval Index by subtracting the “strongly disapprove” figure from the “strongly approve” figure. As a result, Obama’s overall score is a minus-11. That’s the first time his rating has reached negative double digits.

    Other results of the poll:

    49 percent somewhat approve of Obama’s performance.

    50 percent disapprove of Obama’s performance.

    76 percent see Obama as liberal.

    48 percent see Obama as very liberal.

    54 percent primarily blame former President George W. Bush for America’s economic woes.

    25 percent say the U.S. economy has been aided by the economic stimulus package.

    53 percent oppose the Democratic healthcare reform package.

    37 percent say deficit reduction should be Obama’s top priority.

    20 percent say healthcare should be Obama’s top priority.

    The poll is based on answers from 1,500 likely voters. It has a margin of error of +/- 3 percentage points.

  • DixieConnie

    Obama ramed the stimulous package down our throats. I said NO. It was voted on Yes. Now we say NO to the health care package. What are the odds it will pass? When did we not get a voice anymore? Who is in charge? I write, I email, I call my representatives, it doesn’t seem to matter. I’m just saying.

  • ONTIME

    When the president(?) was finally asked by a reporter in a public meeting if he, the Congress and the exempts would give up their tax paid government plans in order to conform to the national health care that he was trying to sell the public, the answer was “MAYBE”.

    So the snake oil he is selling is not good enough for he and the parasites to drink but it’s fine for you and me? It is understandable why these people are held in such low esteem. Mr. Obama, go pound salt!

    • s c

      When b o says ‘maybe,’ he means ‘I own you, America.’ No true ‘leader’ wants to own America. Why would he hide behind such words? Would a ‘leader’ surround himself with power-hungry incompetents? Those who see b o for who he is know he is not a leader. He has much to hide from us. He is non-leadership at its worst. His role models have tried to control governments for centuries. Power is his religion and his god. His love of power will be his undoing. His legacy is destruction. In his mind, we exist to serve and worship him. He and his ilk have a date with destiny, but that destiny no sane man or woman wants.

  • http://msn Freckles

    Obama, doesn’t have a clue as to what he wants as far as health care all he wants is a take over of our right to choose and to tax all of us who work to death!! All of these bills that are being passed with such rapidity is a take over of our beloved country! Health Care is another take over, do not fool yourselves this is not going to be pretty this is going to cost lives. Obama believes in infanticide, and now he wants to implement genocide.

    Obama, says he wants racial equality, but I believe that he hates the white person, and he is trying to create class warfare, and racial unrest in this country. There are always going to be pple who play the race card but Obama plays it all the time. case in point his friend Gates who was arrested because he refused to keep his mouth shut, and Obama, called the police officer stupid. or he acted stupidly.

    So I hope all the pple who voted for Obama cause they wanted change know they are going to get it as Obama is trying to change this country by taking away all of our rights. Health Care is going to take over 30% of our national economy, and we are all going to hate it. If you have insurance now you won’t have it, as this bill won’t allow it.

    Keep right on calling and writing as we need this health care like we need a life threatening disease that this bill won’t take care of!!!!!!

    God Bless our Troops, and God Bless This Country that I Love!!!!!!!!

  • http://WWW.CAL-MARK.COM GEORGE URDA

    It is easy to see from the many Americans who have lived in Europe that the universal health care system in these countries is far far far superior to the U S profit based system. Let me add that I lived in Japan for over 30 years and found Japan’s universal health care system also far superior to the U S. First, EVERYONE IS COVERED. Waiting time is no longer than in the U S for typical appointments. The cost is a very small co pay of $1. to $5.00!

    It should be obvious that the U S Health Care industry, the health care insurance companies in particular, are holding U S health care hostage. They all voice such platitudes such as they don’t believe in government programs. Unfortunately, the real reason is that so many U S Senators and Congressmen are in the pockets of the health industry. Their “campaign contrutions”, lets face it, are bribes, clear and simple. The scare tactics they employ about “socialized medicine” etc are simply BS, just like the scare tactics Bush and Cheney used to justify the Iraq war.

    Medicare and the Veterans administration healtcare are government run and I’ve found them more efficient and give better care.

    Wake up, dumb Americans; you are so naive! Stop listening to the scare tactics. We are in urgent need of universal health care! Obama is facing a formidable vested interest barage. Help him to succeed!

  • Bob Wells

    The chameleon has shown his true colors……..My guts told me 3 months ago what I now know for fact This man is dedicated to destroying the America that MOST of us hold close to our hearts. We have been duped by his promise of change and now we must stand up and fight for our country. We’ve made a terrible mistake America and it will require our combined efforts to right this wrong. Stand up, be strong, and get ready!

  • http://na Gilbert Opaleski

    Our Medical system is the best in the world. People come from all over the world for treatment. I know that our system has some problems, but this is no reason to change the complete system. All we need to do is address the problems. We do not need the Goverment to do this. Our goverment has a record of taking good systems and and leaving them in a miss management condition.
    Our present goverment seems to have a system that talks the talk but does not give any thought on how to walk, the walk. So far this year, they miss managed the everything they have done.

  • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

    Why aren’t our parents and grandparents speaking out? They should be outraged! Don’t they realize that this health care bill amounts to state-sponsored euthanasia for the elderly? The Obamanoids will show them no more compassion than they show for unborn children. Wake up, grandpa!

  • James Corbin

    Mike Snyder, Did you not know that AARP is for the left. I do not have anything to do with them.

  • Katherine Tomsich

    Just stop this medical care reform. Insurance companies need better regulation, true. Tort reform needs to happen and the lawyers need to make a fee for service like everyone else, not a parasitic, huge percentage. Medical doctors are not the caring investigators they once were. It is all about drugs, drugs and more drugs. Tighten up some of these problems and things will be better. I am weary of paying for everyone to have expensive drugs and unnecessary surgeries because some doc read in his cook book that this is what was successful in at least 30% of cases. (Maybe we just can do without 80% of these docs and use the Internet to diagnose ourselves. They can become the treating automatons they want to be. ) If people would use the alternative ideas for most of their functional complaints, the medical docs could use the drug/surgery route to better effect on those who truly need that type of care.

  • cr747

    People, it is time we Americans take our country back. This health care package they are trying to push on us is non-sense. They ( the people in Washington ) are trying to pass this pkg. so they can tell us what Doctor we can see, what clinic we can go to, and then they can get their on Dr’s to give us medication that will put us 6 feet under. Like the VA Hospital in OBAMA’S home state of Illinois did. They killed a few VETERANS so that they, ”the Government wouldn’t have to pay out the money” and use it on their on health care. The Pres. and all in Washington have the best Ins. Coverage in the world, and we ”the people” are paying it for them. Why don’t they give us the same coverage? They had rather use our money on doing away with our Constitution Rights.

  • Free American

    Glad to see that now all Americans have been duped by BO. Anyone thinking that a Government run health plan will work in this country must not be looking at history or at the way our government can run anything, especially the bunch that is in their right now. This plan will cost us trillions, deliver very little, make the czars and congressman rich, and leave the truly needing without the needed care because the government run plan and committe appointed to judge cases worthy will deny care to more people than will receive care.

    I have been involved with trying to work with a Government run program for the people working in government run facilities that have been promised compensation for injuries incurred from exposures doing their jobs with either radioactive substances, chemicals, etc. Congress created the program, allocated at least a billion to go to the people or their families who had received injuries or died from the exposures. The administration of this program is top heavy and ten years later, I only know of three people that has received anything from the program. More people have died waiting than are receiving help. I personally have submitted tons of documentation and have had to pay for tests and medicines for the last twenty years. To date, I have not received anything from this program and am still fighting because I need to continual submit more documentation.

    Don’t be deceived by this Congress. They need to take some management lessons and by all means, don’t let the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac folks design a plan. Chris Dodd, Barney Franks and others are still lining their pockets from the housing scams they refused to regulated in 2005, so why would anyone trust them to design anything?

    In New Mexico, I am already taxed to provide free shot clinics, free health care for illegal immigrants and provide free health care at the university hospitals for anyone that can not afford it now. Why do we even need another free plan?

  • http://none Pat Mencke

    Reponse to: “WHO ARE YOU PPLE? IF YOU WANT TO VOICE YOUR OPINION THEN GIVE US A NAME, NOT JUST A BUNCH OF SOCIALIST JUNK!!!!!!

    Response: My name is Pat and I am an American.

    The first you posted this note I apologized because I was afraid I had been remiss. After that I began to sign each post. If you are not finding my name of post now, it is not because I don’t level with you, or whatever else it is your are thinking.

    Is this all you have to say–word for word? And which socialism would you be referring to?

  • http://none Pat Mencke

    Mike Snyder;
    Emergency rooms are just what they say they are. They are like a triage center. They make the first judgements of who needs emergency that fastest and the most. They intervene as much as is necessary promptly and then send you where more and proper care for your complaint is available so that they can continue to meet emergencies. Why ever would you go to an emergency room for the kind of ailments you describe??? With Medicare you can self-refer to any doctor you with to see anytime. Blue Shield is the most expensive stuff around. With-it people all know that the AARP supplement is the best around. Hannity and Co. are not going to tell you these things because they have axes to grind.
    If you waited 6 months to see a doctor, you are a sap. Your individualism is a joke. You are not thinking with individual reason. You are following the herd of people who are taking advantage of you.
    Pat

  • http://none Pat Mencke

    Response to me: “Oh please Al Gore won a prize from those nuts. Just goes to show if Gore pulled one over on them maybe they are not as smart as you think they are.”

    My response: So you are telling me that you are smarter than all the people at the Nobel Academy and Al Gore too. Think again. Sorry but that is really rich. Have you been eating those mushrooms again.

    Just think for a minute what you said. If you really believe that, you, Lush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Carl Rove, W. Bush, etc., etc., etc., can even understand what these people represent then show me what ya got.
    Pat P.S. You need to get out more.

  • Rich

    Wow George you must have never been to a VA hospital because the care our veterans get sucks. The only universal health care in the US for Native Americans sucks. It isn’t that we don’t need reform and regulations, because we sorely do. It is that our government could not manage their way out of a wet paper bag in any industry without making it go broke within a relatively short amount of time. Want proof look at social security the only benefit program in the US that actually makes any money, but our government decided to borrow from it heavily causing it too to go broke. France has already admitted their system is going broke, they are looking at inventive ways of cutting costs, and some of their ideas are great. Canada has a great health care generally but why is it that many of the cancer patients run to the US because they can’t get proper care? No system is perfect like your suggesting, yes they have great benefits just as ours has great benefits, it is the benefits your willing to give up vs the benefits you want is the debate in a nut shell.

  • http://www.ezoutlets.com/calendar/moms Paris Skutnik

    Truly enjoyable. Continue to keep these posts going.

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    Dear Comment,,,

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    And ore Gov,,,doing every thing,,,,And if you have a problem with Your health Care,,,,Please look on the internet,,for Treatments and Support,,,The is a lots out,,
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    Margaret Fulmore

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    Sorry Mike..This Margaret I’m hoop every thing come good,,,If you need Health Care ,Please check NOVOCURE.COM OUT.

    Greets
    Margaret

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    You ask me?…You are funny,,,,We are a Air Force Family….Understand,,,
    And This have nothing to With you,,,

    Margaret

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    Sorry have sum respeck I’m fighting mine Brain Cancer,,,

    Margaret

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    None Comment…to you,,,,

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    **Dear CandyB

    Thanks,,I’m a Nurse,,to.from the Netherlands,,,,
    And Wat about mine treatments and Medication are from Novocure.com

    Look up,,Maby you got a Idee,,,,

    Thanks,,,and Sorry it Was not mean to

    Margaret

  • http://margfull@gmail.com Margaret Fulmore

    **Excuus me? You need to got your self checking out,,,
    I’m can speak up,,,If I’m won, You have a problem….Got all a live,

    Margaret

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