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Obama Asks Congress For $50 Billion In Aid To Avoid State Layoffs

June 17, 2010 by  

Obama asks Congress for $50 billion in aid to avoid state layoffs President Obama has requested that Congress quickly approve nearly $50 billion in emergency aid to help prevent states from being forced to lay off more workers.

In a letter written to congressional lawmakers, Obama suggested that last year’s $787 billion Federal stimulus package will not be enough to avoid the "massive layoffs" of teachers, firefighters and law enforcement personnel.

"The lingering economic damage left by the financial crisis we inherited has left a mounting employment crisis at the state and local level that could set back the pace of our economic recovery," he wrote.

Obama’s proposal came as a surprise to lawmakers from both sides of the aisle, who said the president failed to mention the plan during a White House meeting late last week, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

Republican members of Congress spoke out against the request on Monday, noting that previous Federal spending contributed to the mounting deficit while doing little to reduce the nation’s near 10 percent unemployment rate.

"Democrats are showing either that they just don’t get it on this issue of the debt, or that they just don’t care," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). "You can understand the American people’s skepticism when they’re told that simply adding more government is the solution to government’s previous failures."
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  • http://burgerd@kearney.k12.mo.us Dwayne B says

    This guy is dumber than Ja-Ja -Ja Jimmy Freakin Carter.

    • Airangel

      You can’t just keep giving bailout money without changing the infrastructure of organizations and how they spend and operate. You also have to have conditions with how the money is spent and check points for being fiscally responsible or else they’ll blow through this too and be begging for more and more and more! Trim the fat, invest in what matters and STOP THE FRIVOLOUS SPENDING!

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

        They have to keep as many people employed as possible till the November elections so they won’t lose as many seats as they might if people see how badly Obama and the ‘Democrats’ have failed in restarting the economy, especially the government employees. People may forget, but Bush inherited a two quarter recession from Clinton and for his first two quarters the media was on him mercilessly about all the jobs that were being lost after he became president. After his first two quarters, a one year recession, Bush started adding jobs to the economy and by the end of his two terms had created even more jobs that the Clinton years. Bush’s economy didn’t start heading south until twelve months after the ‘Democrats’ won majorities in both houses of ‘Congress’ on his second mid-term election, exactly a year before Obama was elected President. People also forget that Clinton’s first two years as President were also a deep recession which we only came out of when his first mid-term elction was won by the ‘Republicans’, in both houses of ‘Congress’, who then passed their ‘Contract with America’ that turned Clintons economy around.

    • Ernie

      No, he is not dumb. In fact, his agenda is right on track. If you think he wants to fix things, you’ve got it wrong. With chaos and crisis, he can turn the US in the dirction he wants. If there are more Guv’ment employees, they will march in line behind SEIU to keep the money flowing to them (from you).

      People keep thinking he wants to fix the US (in they way it always was), but he doesn’t. He needs to destroy the US economy and capitalism in order to build his Utopia. He’s right on track.

      • http://none Sharon

        Well now Ernie must be part of America that is walking around like a zombie as yet since Obama took office – just wait until all of the big spender’s bills take effect and watch the public try blaming the Republican Congress (who will have taken over Congress by then) for all of Obama’s big spending and that 10 TRILLION dollars in debt he thus far hss tallied up! Get smart Ernie!

        • JC

          Sharon, I think you may have misread Ernie’s intent.

          • Claire

            JC– No kidding.

        • http://naver samurai

          Sharon, I do think that you have missed the point. Ernie is trying to say that the current administraion has to destroy everything that makes America what it is, then install his own version of government. Socialism, marxism, etc., do you understand what he is say now? I do agree with what you said about his debt of up to 13 trillion dollars he has racked up since coming to office. This needs to be nipped in the bud. Remember, November isn’t that far off and your vote does count on these matters. Get the word out, send flyers through the mail, set your websites on fire with the idea of getting people to vote and do their patriotic duty of voting them out of office. Remember: “I will not take any chances. A single grain of rice can tip the scale. One man (vote) can mean the difference between victory and defeat.” For God and country!

          • Claire

            samurai–You were nice to explain. I guess I was being a smart a$$.

          • Rebecca Gilbert

            I always thought it was one man one vote until the other day when I heard what a district in New York had decided. They have given 6 votes for every registered Latino because there are so many illegal Latinos that cannot vote and it is only fair to balance it out and give all these illegals equal representation! I’m appauled at the very thought that this can be done in this country. Where is the mass media when it comes to protecting our rights as Americans! Afterall, we are Americans and anyone else should come to this country by the laws and foundation of our country and not through some back door. B.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

        Obama’s plan is to change our country into a third world economy so we will be on the same level as his Islamic masters and then won’t be able to support Israel, as we are their only ally in the world. We are their ONLY ally, and just think what will happened when we won’t or can’t give aid to them. Obama, Hillary, and all the ‘Democrats’ are trying to find excuses right now not to support Israel and Obama has even increased support to all Islamic nations that we’ve helped in the past. Exactly what are our priorities now that Obama is making his ‘Change’ that he promised us if we elected him, does anyone really know? Doesn’t look good from where I am standing.

    • Patty

      I love the way he (Nobama)keeps telling everyone that the money is to save jobs. They are all public (gov’t. employee) jobs that he is saving. None are private sector jobs. The only thing he is trying to save is his voter base and he is doing it on the backs of the private sector.
      A very large % of the stimulus money that WI rec’d went to prop up the teachers their retirements and the union.

  • Raggs

    Can you spell “GREECE” ?

    This is the same problem that had started the downturn of Greece.
    Too many pensions of retired union workers that bankrupted the system.

    And now obama wants to “bail-out” the unions in this country.
    I can see why obama wants to bail them out being they are the ones who got him elected at the expence of the taxpayers.

    obama’s corrupt tracks will soon lead back to him.

    • JC

      We’re actually in worse shape than Greece. And Greece is facing the possibility of a complete meltdown, meaning civil rioting, shortages, even martial law.
      And all the Imposter can do is keep pushing us closer to disaster.

  • SANDRA

    Next it will be can you spell “SPAIN”? That’s where we are headed if he jams “Cap & Tax” down the taxpayers throats.

    • Richard Pawley

      Sandra, it is Congress, the House and the Senate, who pass all these laws that are destroying the dollar and eventually our economy. Already the trillions Congress has spent in the past decade is going to cause the cost of food and fuel to eventually triple when the temporary deflation ends and the big inflation begins. We have one chance to slow this down and that is not in 2012 but this fall. It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER!

      • Claire

        Richard–Although I do not approve of Obama you are absolutely correct in what you have posted.

    • Greg

      IMPEACH IMPEACH

      • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

        You are so right Greg. We must act now, not wait until Nov. Look what just got passed. He is out to destroy us. Look at his latest xecutive order. Impeach him now, that is your duty.

        Something happened yesterday… H.R. 1388 was passed, behind our backs. You may want to read about it… It wasn’t mentioned on the news… just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.
        Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas Refugees to the USA. This is the news that didn’t make the headlines…
        By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in “migration assistance” to the Palestinian refugees and “conflict victims” in Gaza .
        The “presidential determination,” which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States , was signed and appears in the Federal Register.
        Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of January 2006.

        Now we learn that he is allowing thousands of Palestinian refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.
        These important, and insightful, issues are being “lost” in the blinding bail-outs and “stimulation” packages.
        Doubtful? To verify this for yourself: http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488

        • JC

          Importing sleeper cells. Great! Arm yourselves to the teeth people. You may be very glad you did.

        • Rebecca G

          Thank you DonJ for letting all of us know that Obama is bringing in his people from Gaza and we are paying for it. They don’t have to hide and worry about over staying their visa any more….they can work against us from the inside out to destroy all that has been built by our forefathers for liberty and freedom.
          Things are alot worse than I thought. If we don’t wake up soon, we will lose all that is dear to us: FREEDOM.
          So we bring in hostile parties from Gaza, we pay for it, and they want to rid the world of US? It is crazy!

  • J.M.R.

    THATS ALL THIS MORON KNOWS SPEND SPEND AND THEN SPEND MORE, HE DOESN’T HAVE THE BRAIN OF A PISS ANT.

    • Greg

      He knows he won’t be relected so he is doing everything he can to get it his way

    • BigBadJohn

      From 2000-2008 Bush and the republicans spent more than ALL PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS COMBINED! not to mention, Bush flew TEN Billion in cash straight into the waiting hands of his supporters.

      The way I see it, Obama is simply doing the same thing that the Republicans did while they were in power……
      Throw BOTH parties OUT!

      • Claire

        BigBadJohn—Now you’re talking!! Both parties stink.

        • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

          We have (you have) the answer. Both parties personal are bought and paid for. They are bad. The two party system isn’t bad, the people in it are. Vote and replace them all is the way to go. Let the new ones know that once the people against them with a phone or email address outnumber the votes (daily internet poll results) they got to get in, they are out, that day and replaced with a standby.

          One phone one vote, voting on issues is the best way to go, you tell the man in office how to vote. The issues (bills) should be posted in our current no-newspapers (if we ever get them back) or on line (unless 0 turns it off first like he’s working toward) Remove the middle man since he has shown he can’t be trusted to vote as we want him to vote. Get your recite paper trail with your phone bill, or daily.

      • Hugh Jordan

        Obama is a disappointment but the right is not without idiots, too: Note below. What are they thinking, or are they? The likes of Bachmann & company diminish the conservative message by their antics. Why are the smart conservatives being so quiet?

        When BP CEO Tony Hayward testified before Congress this morning, many expected to hear him apologize for the disaster his company has caused. Instead, GOP Congressman Joe Barton was the one saying he was sorry — to BP.

        In his opening statement, Barton, the top Republican on the committee overseeing the oil spill and its aftermath, delivered a personal apology to the oil giant. He said the $20 billion fund that President Obama directed BP to establish to provide relief to the victims of the oil disaster was a “tragedy in the first proportion.”

        Other Republicans are echoing his call. Sen. John Cornyn said he “shares” Barton’s concern. Rep. Michele Bachmann said that BP shouldn’t agree to be “fleeced.” Rush Limbaugh called it a “bailout.” The Republican Study Committee, with its 114 members in the House, called it a “shakedown.”

        Let’s be clear. This fund is a major victory for the people of the Gulf. It’s a key step toward making them whole again. BP has a responsibility to those whose lives and livelihoods have been devastated by the disaster. And BP oil executives don’t deserve an apology — the people of the Gulf do.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Hugh,
          I don’t know where you got your info from but it is incorrect. the repub commitee gave him such a scathing rebuke that he recanted his appology and said that it was his and his alone and that his choice of words were wrong. He flat out said that the fault for this disaster lies on BPs shoulders alone!!!

        • JC

          I watched Obama’s politburo run their kangaroo court on BP’s CEO Tony Hayward today. he’s already admitted responsibility and he’s already committed 20B for starters to clean up efforts. Now why can’t these self serving, self aggrandizing pinheads let the man get on with his job which, right now is to stop and clean up a disaster.
          Nope they all have to get their face time in front of the sheep, so they can run more socialist crap on us later.

          • Claire

            JC–Barton was an idiot. And yes, the Repubs got after him. Like you said, forget this crap and get the oil leak fixed. My gosh, that should be first and foremost on their minds.

          • Rebecca G

            I think this is designed to side-track the people of this country. By putting on this inquest, it takes the burden off of Obama for not doing a darn thing to do the right thing on the oil spill.
            Obama assigned NASA to the Toyota mess–why couldn’t he do the same with the oil spill? Or does he want to do anything because if it wasn’t the worst thing to happen then he wouldn’t be able to stop the US from drilling for our own resources and then who would we depend on??? One guess! The Mid East would hold are the cards in the next war. It is that simple. The BP problem occured within weeks of the announcement that Obama said that we could drill off shore in the Atlantic. See any connection? Forget the environment–drill in the desert. West Texas could use the employment–why not look there. We don’t have to go off shore to drill, but if we don’t drill, we could put us in a bad position. As history tells us, the UK wanted the US to enter the war because they knew we had the oil resources and could help them win against Hitler who no doubt would have taken Britian if the US had not joined the war. We NEED the oil–by the time we have another resource of energy for our military, it will be too late!

      • Ed

        Most of what you think you know about the Bush administration has been force fed to you by the MSM and a group of politicians, mostly in the House who so far as I am concerned committed one act of treason after the other during the Bush term in office. When Obama wrote: “The lingering economic damage left by the financial crisis we inherited has left a mounting employment crisis at the state and local level that could set back the pace of our economic recovery”, what he should have written was “The lingering economic damage I have caused thus far . . . pales in comparison to the damage I intend to do to this country”. IMPEACH – OMG

  • Jim H.

    My property taxes pay for teachers, firefighters, and police. They haven’t gone down. If they could afford it last year, they should be good this year. When states want more money they go straight to threatening teachers, firefighters and police as the “only” way to go. If the state and local governments are that inept at budgeting all this money will do is enable them to still be inept. It will not solve the root problem. More of “our” money poorly spent.

    • TIME

      Jim, Great points – saddly most don’t understand these facts.

    • Claire

      JimH–And you are correct in what you post too.

  • Tom Martel

    this guy just doesn’t get it? it is easyer to just keep printing more money,because it sure in the hell ist his?let him and all the crooks in washington take 1/2 cut in pay and then they can see what it is like on the other side of the fence.

    • JC

      Tom, he gets it alright. This is deliberate and calculated. Don’t underestimate the underlying agenda at play here.

      • Jerry

        JC,

        I agree that this is the implementation of the Cloward-Piven strategy which “seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.”

        “The real goal of “health care” legislation, the real goal of “cap-and-trade,” and the real goal of the “stimulus” is to rip the guts out of our private economy and transfer wide swaths of it over to the government to control. Do not be deluded by the propaganda. These initiatives are vehicles for change. They are not goals in and of themselves except in their ability to deliver power. They and will make matters much worse, for that is their design.”

        Read the full article at: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/clowardpiven_government.html

    • Jana

      Tom,
      I agree with you. Let him and his staff and our Representatives take a pay cut. Instead they have all had raises this past year. Our Reps automatically get them each year, and Obama gave his staff a raise as well this year. All this man and Congress knows how to do is spend.

      Federal employees make the highest wages around. If they all took a 15% paycut it would help. Plus the Reps have how much for an expense account? Too much as they use it frivelously. Now Nancy Pelosi has just moved into a new office in California that only costs $18,700. a MONTH. That is only for one of her offices. But be of good cheer it’s supposed to be green energy so its going to save us money. Now that makes sense HOW?
      When our household gets low on money we start budgeting heavily, even if that means eating beans and rice for 5 out of 7 days. Even at times have we done that and had cabbage stew the other 2 days.
      If we the people can be responsible enough to enact a budget in our everyday lives, these supposed lawyers and Community organizers should be able to figure out how to cut back too. We need to make them be responsible. Write, call and let them know what we expect them to do.

  • eric ueland

    no to this money,this will be one way to tell unions there time is up and that overpaid teachers are going back to reality

    • Greg

      Don’t forget about the over paid police and firefighters

      • TOMCAT

        AS THEY USE TO SAY IN TOWN HALL MEETINGS BEFORE THIS GREAT COUNTRY WAS BORN.
        HERE! HERE!

      • http://naver samurai

        If we cut the pay of police and firemen they will walk off of their job. The firemen in my hometown get paid $10-$11 dollars an hour. Thats not that much considering how much danger and risk to life they face at work. I know some “overpaid” police officers who have to take a second job to feed their families. Let’s get real here. Think before you act.

        • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

          Your right Samural, they should be the last to have pay cuts.

          The first should be others working for the government. Didn’t I read where the government employs over half the population and that they are the highest paid salaried people in the country? I’ll bet there are a LOT of waste jobs that can be completely removed.

          Teachers “tenures” have to go. Curriculums for students are being manipulated in a dumbing down direction. God is being removed from the public. Term limits have been defeated by the ones effected.

          Yea, we have trouble, just check to see who’s suggesting that firefighters, police and teachers get cutbacks and you will see who the troublemakers are.

          • http://naver samurai

            Greg sounds like one of them!

          • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

            Greg said Impeach, I’m on Greg’s side.

        • Smilee

          samurai

          Wow, we actually agree on something, how about that!!

  • Harry M

    This is what happens when government holds itself “above” the people they are supposed to represent. When we have such high levels of unemployed out looking for work in the private sector, we have Barak (I never could refuse to print more money) Obama seeking to save government jobs. Perhaps its time to let government loose a few pounds, trim up and represent the people instead of themselves. Unfortunately our children and their children will not understand the financial implications of all this until they are of the age to be paying for this administration (and past administrations) economic indiscretions. These guys are no worse then snake oil salesmen and women.

  • Raggs

    We all know where this money is going to come from… our grandchildren since only 46% of this population has a job now. So what happens next year when this happens again and the next and the next? ALL unions need to be dismantled people have came to depend on them way too much just like the welfare system medicare and social security that is collapsing… Any government ran program is doomed to fail.

    • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

      Lay off the S/S Raggs, it’s not in the same boat. S/S was making money and it still would be if it were back in it’s own account again. People paid into S/S willingly and it worked guaranteeing their retirement. I think it was Johnson who changed our course and stole the S/S money by changing where the untouchable money was to an account were it was assimilated. That and auditing the Fed is why Kennedy was killed.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        DonJ,
        Not everyone paid in willingly. I can remember working doubles six days a week to make ends meet. The little that they took out would have helped. I didn’t have any choice in the matter and by the time I turn 65, it wont be there. By the way, that is only six years away for me!

        • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

          Joe says,
          Not everyone paid in willingly. I can remember working doubles six days a week to make ends meet. The little that they took out would have helped. I didn’t have any choice in the matter and by the time I turn 65, it wont be there. By the way, that is only six years away for me!

          The problem isn’t with S/S Joe. It makes money for us the recipients. It’s with those that allowed the money to be removed from it’s account and to be legally stolen by our own government.

          This can be fixed it enough people know about it.

          • Claire

            Donj–I am going to check into this somehow.

  • spoonerist

    Just think this one through briefly. Essentially, the people in many states are saying “NO” to increases in state and/or local taxes, so budget cuts become necessary. Then the politicians try to apply the reduced spending and budget cuts to areas where they will get the most pressure for increasing taxes again — jobs. Now, if the federal government supplies money to the states to make up for this “shortfall”, they are effectively using everyone’s money (from taxes) to make up for the tax increases that people had chosen not to accept. So we get taxed anyway, even though it has been rejected. These bastards will stop at nothing.

    And since every government job that is created destroys 1.29 real jobs, we would be better off if the people who lost their government jobs because of budget cuts did not have their jobs reinstated by this type of “bailout”, because for every government job that they lost, 1.29 real jobs will eventually materialize in the real world economy.

    • JC

      It’s a hamster wheel alright. It’s based on slavery…on the notion of working you to death.

  • http://MicrosoftOutlook Cathy

    $50 billion would go a long way toward helping the small businesses in this country, but Obama wants to help the public employee unions who helped elect him. The states need to get rid of more of these people and get private sector jobs in place. The taxpayers are fed up with the salaries, pensions and benefits these public employees are getting at our expense. All you have to do is look at New Jersey. Governor Christie is taking on the teachers’ union, and more power to him. We need more governors like him.

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  • JC

    FIRE UP THE PRINTING PRESS!
    The Kenyan is once again moving forward with his plans to destroy the American economy for a long time to come. AND when we are unable to pay back all these paper “tickets” there will be war.
    And we’ll know who the enemy is.

    Yes we can yes we can Zeig Heil Zeig heil…

    • Al Sieber

      Couldn’t of said it better. I don’t think they ever stopped the printing presses. war is looming on the horizon, it can happen anytime now. this president believes his own lies. but hell, lets keep the printing presses rolling.

  • James

    Dumping 50 billion unearmed dollars into the economy is pure inflation.

    • George E

      I believe you are correct especially if the government prints this money. That just devalues the currency all that much more (inflation goes up while the value of the dollar goes down). If they borrow the money, it will simply push the government closer and closer to default. It’s taking all we can do now just to pay the interest on the monumental debt we already have, and unless the government drastically cuts spending (especially, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and national defense), it will go into default within the next few years, regardless of all the tax increases they are planning. So, the bottom line is the government is planning to take most of our money in taxes of one kind or another, and will probably still have to make major cuts in these programs anyway. That’s pretty much already “baked in.” Can you imagine what that will do to the economy? Permanent recession/depression/stagflation here we come!

      • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

        You said,
        I believe you are correct especially if the government prints this money. That just devalues the currency all that much more (inflation goes up while the value of the dollar goes down). If they borrow the money, it will simply push the government closer and closer to default. It’s taking all we can do now just to pay the interest on the monumental debt we already have, and unless the government drastically cuts spending

        Ok, here comes our rub..
        Social Security is not costing you anything, it makes money in its own account. Put it back in its own account if you want to do something good, but I don’t think that is what you do. Your a “demoralizer”. I say “Bring the troops home, audit the Fed and put S/S back in it’s own untouchable account.”

        you continue..
        (especially, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and national defense), it will go into default within the next few years, regardless of all the tax increases they are planning.

        and my finish…
        I hope I made my point about S/S. Perhaps you want to go into this in more detail. I think it is a point that more people should know about.

        S/S was making money and it still would be if it were back in it’s own account again. People paid into S/S willingly and it worked guaranteeing their retirement. I think it was President Johnson who changed our course and stole the S/S money by changing where the untouchable money was to an account were it was assimilated.

        • Claire

          Social Security would have been just fine, but the administrations kept getting into it and using it for their agendas. They were the thieves. They kept taking the money and didn’t put it back. This was NOT their money to use. It was the Americans’ money.

          • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

            Exactly Claire, I don’t usually go after old money but they took so much. Can we get any of it back? If I remember right they gave us IOUs. Can’t we at least put the new money back into its own account again? Would that be the congress that would do that? We get our own Congress person to start an amendment or bill or whatever that will cover it.

          • Claire

            Don–I would talk to my congressmen but they are worthless. Remember, I am in Illinois. The capitol of corruption.

        • George E

          Don,

          You’re correct about Social Security in that if all the money we’ve paid into SS were actually set aside that program would be self sufficient. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. The money went into the general fund and has been used to fund other programs as well. In other words, SS has become just another way to get more tax revenue from US citizens. When one looks at the size and expense of the various programs the federal government is supporting with the tax revenue it gets, SS is one of the largest. This just tells me that we can, and probably will, see some sort of “cuts” in this program in the future because we can’t sustain the overall debt that the government has created. I don’t want SS to be cut either because I collect my check just like many others do. But I do think we will see some sort of cut-backs starting within the next 5 years, probably starting with dropping COLAs, and increasing the retirement age for younger workers. Before this happens, I just hope we’ll unload the program from all the free-loaders, including illegal immigrants, before we start cutting back on those of us that have paid into the program for many years.

          • Claire

            Don and George E–I know so many seniors from church, work, neighbors, etc. that rely on SS. Several of them have fallen on hard times because of their kids, and two couples are now raising their grandkids. I have said before that sometimes during a lifetime people have “hard knocks” through no fault of their own and were unable to save like they should have. It is the way the ball bounces sometimes. Some are fortunate while others are not.
            When SS started, it was a good program. And I believe it was started with good intentions. However, like I said before the dang administrations could not keep their hands out of it. It was like a cookie jar to them. They never put back the money they took from SS. They were thieves. I don’t know if there were IOUs or not. Seniors should raise heck and demand that they put back all the money they took. The only problem is, the government has no money. And like it was mentioned, you can’t keep printing money with nothing to back it up. What a sorry state of affairs.

        • James

          DonJ, Whether the $50 billion is just blips on a computer or is printed up, doesn’t alter the fact that it is unearned money, and doesn’t contribute anything to the economy. The government would borrow this money, at interest, from the federal reserve, and that would become part of the national debt. The only way the government can repay that debt is to tax the people. The national debt is the people’s debt. That is, people who would be receiving this federal handout, would have to pay it back, with more taxes. All of the federal government’s income comes from its power to tax.

  • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

    Why not lay off some of (correction all of) the Czars? Some of the personal assistants for Michael could probably go.

    How about having all lobbiest “donations” be made directly to the US treasury instead of the politicians?

    Why not renogiate the government contracts that allow multiple pensions for one person from multiple governement agencies?

    Wow! It might be a novel concept, but how about working on a solution to the problem instead of looking for ways to throw more money into it.

    • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

      You are so right on.

  • jonathan garza

    i find it funny that it is teacher, police officers and firefighter that obama will fight for. what about janitors who work for schools? my dad works for fort wayne community schools. he is getting laid off because of budget cuts. they school board is outsource the janitors jobs. plus it isnt a company base here in america. why is obama only interest in saving teachers? because they gave him money. plus he got the most money for goldman sach, and bp. funny how that is not being mention anymore by the media. wonder why?

    • Jana

      jonathan,
      You are so right. Let’s not use American companies after all we Americans don’t need jobs. We need to help every country out there and even become like them. Just like in Louisianna they are bringing in people from California to do the clean up in the waters off of the coast of LA. Why not hire the people from that state who have the equipment already there? What is it with these people?

      And you know that this company that is being hired to replace your relative at that shcool is going to cost more than he was being paid.

  • Al Sieber

    The only way the majority of people will get mad and wake up is when they lose their entitlements, it’ll be to late by then. it’s okay to lose your freedom, but not the free money. we’re being played like a cheap violin.

    • JC

      I’m reminded of Nero (read: The Kenyan) playing the violin as Rome burned.

      • Al Sieber

        A matter of time and the Gulf could burn.

    • George E

      You’re probably right, but I am encouraged that a lot of people are beginning to understand that government’s debt is so large now that it’s going to cost everyone a lot of money in new taxes and reduced benefits. That’s a start. It’s still not too late to save this country, but if we don’t stop the insane government spending soon, it will be too late. As soon as most people get on the government’s payroll, we’ll find ourselves in the same shape as Greece, California, and New York; ie, more non-productive workers than productive workers, and the non-productive workers are voting themselves more and more benefits and pay on the backs of the dwindling number of productive workers. If government was a business, it would go out of business very quickly doing things like this.

      • JC

        You’ve just described how socialism is a “melt down in the making” everytime it rears its ugly head.

  • s c

    Itsounds good. It feels good (duh, it must be ‘good’). Unfortunately, it’s more progressive theory from the Incompetent-in-Chief. Once again (like it will ever end when a progressive is around), we are expected to endure the whims of an utterly incompetent organizer who probably can’t take out the trash by himself – let alone ‘run’ the country.
    His INACTION in the Katrina-like oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico PROVES that he doesn’t think anything through, as this nix on drilling will LAY OFF THOUSANDS of people (oh, how he ‘cares’).
    This twit doesn’t care about reality. THIS, people, is what he really means when he DARES to talk about HOPE and CHANGE. He is so inept, he is so incompetent, he is such a horse’s asset that I have to conclude that he’s a willing tool for unseen puppet masters. What else can it be?
    He’s already outCartered Nuts Carter. He’s out-duhhed Clinton. His presence in the White House is nothing less than a curse. Maybe we can work out a trade with ET or a Third World country. ANYONE almost has to be an automatic improvement over this LOSER. Progressivism doesn’t work, and it’s doing a damn fine job of costing America even MORE JOBS!

  • angel-wanna-be

    Yeah, 50 Billion to bail out Union Jobs!__We can’t let the Democratic voting base, suffer like the rest of us, now can we?

  • 45caliber

    He tied a couple of things the GOP wanted to this bill – such as reduce the cut to the doctors on Medicare – and then demands that they vote for the billions to help out the unions and states like CA. We helped out CA once and what happened? They ran up their deficiet again, expecting to be bailed out again. And the people then insisted it would never happen. Right.

  • http://gmail i41

    Get rid of czars, dept of education, energy, irs, (go flat tax) epa, usda, atf, and onumnuts. Watching these educated eleitist morons jack theiur jaws, shows why we are in a mess. Omoron isn’t a leader, he is a lawyer, who sits and does nothing but golf and vacation. Cut Washington eleit flying time to just them, no wives, girlfriends, and The taxpayers are getting damn tired of paying for golfing and movie tickets. If they don’t want to work send their rears packing with out their perks for life!

    • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

      Start by impeaching our problem before he can do any more damage.

      He’s sneaky in the middle of the night kind of sneaky. You don’t see his damage until after it’s none. Like yesterdays executive order, This “presidential determination,” which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States , was signed and appears in the Federal Register.

      H.R. 1388 was passed, behind our backs. You may want to read about it… It wasn’t mentioned on the news… it just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.

  • marvin

    less see i,m on ss my check went down but fed employ,s wanted a 2.4% raise but el obumbo said no you only get 2.2% the average salary for fed employ,s is $100,000 so thats a 2,000 dollar raise the house and senate get a auto pay raise ever year lest they vote not to, here in the county i live in are cutting back and not hiring or replacing workers the biggest city has enuf cops that when they make a stop their will be 4 to 5 cars there most times,do we need cops teachers firefighter yes is there job more important then your mabe if they do there job and not let the unions run the show like in cal and new york, people the well is dry we are broke you can not keep dipping do i like any one loosing their job no[ just obama holder pelosie reid boxer and all of the far left liberal and some rinos]we the party of know the american people say to the dembocrates you can not hear us or see us but in nov 2010 you for demm sure will feel us when we kick your a-s out, here is a novel idea most liberals love illegals from mexico so much why not move to mexico and take a few dozen illegals with you you have stoled enuf off the tax payer to live like a king you think you are

  • mehoward

    I say that the government lay off one half of the government work force. That’s about how many of the private sector jobs that have been lost. Also ban all unions, they are not needed this day and time.
    Also get rid of Obama’s shadow government(czars, all are socialist,communist,revolutionaries and down right haters of America).
    No more of our tax money going to pork barrel spending by some greedy
    polition who has been in congress so long he’s forgot how hard it is to
    make a living in the private sector. Term limits for all congress house
    and senate. Retirement in private sector is 67 so should it be in congress. mehpensacpla,fl.

  • marvin

    here is something to think about helle clinton signed the small arms treaty,think about it do you care if the spanish or english own a gun, cauldron saz most illegal guns come from here but are mostly all russian made ak47 why ship then here, then take them across the border when mexico has 2000 miles of open borders,we have a pres that turned down help from 12 or 13 country in the first 3 days of the oil spill,ever thing this el stupo pres has or ever had was given by the tax payers, his dad had no money his mom had no money yeat he is a multi millionair, owns a 1.5 million dollar home in chicago been in office less then 2 years has spent more money in that time then the last 5 presidents put togetter ever one he knows is ether a crooks or thiefs just look at who can get in to see him, the same ones that he had his hand out to when he was running like acorn the unions, this man need to be impeached, but as long as the unions and liberals are in charge we will have to vote the liberals out, as the saying goes fool me one time shame on you fool me twice shame on me, if you like the change we got don,t vote, never think you don,t make a differance, look at what is happening in arizona, voting can make a differance,anyone that thinks odumbo is doing a good job ether has a hand out or is racist or just plain stuped or all the above

  • Barney

    How about ending these wars,that should free up some cash

    • George E

      What a great idea. Think you can get the Taliban and Al Qaeda to agree as well? That’d probably save enough money to get us through most of this year. What do you propose we do for next year to balance the budget?

    • JC

      Not a bad idea. Bring the troops home, secure our borders. Surround the White House and no one gets in or out until we get some explanations. Return to American industry and let the rest of the world look after itself for a while.

      • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

        Wow, go JC. Don’t forget to audit the Fed, their gig is up.

        • JC

          For sure Don, shut that immoral bunch of bastards down too.

  • jr bob

    A quick solution is to cancel all aid to illegal alliens, reduce welfare payments in half { that will give them incentive to get a job} cut depend care 1/4 to slow the growth of babies for women who want the government to be their husbands{providers}. cut tax cuts to companies who ship their jobs out of country. if they return their factories to the us they will get tax cuts restored. and all federal pension plans be cut 1/3 because they are way out of line. infact no pension for federal employees should exceed private pensions for the same work. and the house and senate and president and vice president should have the same healthcare benifits as they gave the people. futher all foriegn aid be reduced twenty five percent. and all support for dictatorships and religious dominated countries be eliminated. that should cover the problem.

    • TOMCAT

      JR BOB,
      I THINK YOU SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT. FRESH IDEAS, REAL CHANGE THAT IS GOOD!!

    • George E

      Jr bob,

      I’m sympathetic to your ideas. However, I would like to comment on the issue of corporate tax cuts. One of the reasons that our corporations are moving off shore is because of the high tax rates they have to pay today. If these were lowered, it might be enough incentive for some of them to stay in the USA.

      • Claire

        George E–You are right, and don’t foget the unions!!

        • George E

          Claire,

          I didn’t say that the cost of labor was a driving factor because I’m aware that many take that sort of comment negatively. They would rather find blame with other things than admit our workers get paid too much to allow their companies to compete with companies operating in low wage countries. Anyway, there’s not a lot we can do about wages, short of getting rid of the unions…., so we just have to try to be competitive by focusing our attention on other factors like productivity, innovation, taxes, quality, responsiveness, reliability, etc. Thanks.

          • Claire

            George E–I am a firm believer that some unions did contribute towards the destruction of our economy. Unions and taxes-that is what sent companies to foreign countries. Maybe I am wrong but this is what I have always thought.

          • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

            You’re right Claire,

            Unions shouldn’t be bigger then the single company they represent and all voting should be secret. Hiring and firing should be at the discretion of the employee only, the union can only suggest or quit in mass.

            Don’t take your eye off the ball though. Audit the Fed.
            Artificial inflation and deflation by printing money without value to back it up should never have been be allowed. That’s why our labor cost is high, it’s because our dollar is worth less every year and taxes are more. Money has to be worth something tangible like the gold standard.

  • jr bob

    also if the government passes a tax increase to the people the congress and the president and vice persident and the supreme court will be taxed 10 percent more including that tax.

  • jr bob

    and if the president signs the gun law of the un he forfits all his pay and retirement benifits.

    • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

      That’s any president, this president has to go now.

  • Da Norseman

    More bailouts means more taxes…taxpayers get slapped in the face!!!

  • jr bob

    as for the states they should so the same as the federal government.

  • Delores Smith

    PERSONAL LIBERTY NEWS DESK: THANKS FOR THE ARTICLE…
    Obama…the party is over. Write down this word and put it on your desk…NO!!! You cannot have another $50,000,000,000 for additional aid. Whenever you dream up another request for funds, look at the word “NO” on your desk. Remember that Delores Smith wants you to resign or be impeached. We all have goals in life. I do not like your agenda!
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • chuck b

    no to any more welfare for states such as california. the teachers and other civil workers, their unions never stop demanding more. the welfare state of calif. is an open pit and the more bailouts we receive the more the unions ask for. the politicians in this state live off the minority vote and a lot of our legislatures are minorities. they refuse to enforce the emigration law and they shelter the illegal population. this being “one” of the major problems calif. is broke,

    they have the nerve to ask for more bailouts, tell them NO!! let calif. go bankrupt and straighten out their mess themselves. soetoro
    will do his best to grant them more bailout, this is the vote that keeps him in power,

  • Raggs

    obama makes AL CAPONE look like a kindegarden 4 year old.

  • Airangel

    Give that 50 Billion to build and safeguard our Southern Border. Build the damn wall! We will save that much on not housing illegals and spending more taxes on law enforcment to deport illegals and incarcerate criminals, only to have them come back in over and over again!!…this just in…THE CARTEL HAVE SEIZED 80 MILES OF Park Land in Arizona and our Federal Government does nothing but tale local law to post signs “NOT TO HAVE AMERICAN CITIZENS GO ON AMERICAN LAND!” They are giving our Sovereign land to the Drug Cartel! This used to be hiking/ATV fun land – I am shocked and apalled and no biased other news stations are reporting it!

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

    • Airangel

      tell – sorry, I am just so mad!

      • Claire

        Airangel–You are mad tonight, I was mad as heck a couple of days ago. I ranted all night long about the oil spill and Obama’s lack of leadership.

  • Evelyn

    GOD help us ALL !!!

    They say He is in control…………wondering what His plans are !!!

    I have a strong feeling ‘we will ALL know shortly!’ ! HMMMM !!!!

  • jr bob

    also if california did the right thing it would declare bankrupcy and cancel their bloated retirement plans. and that would clear californias problems. when a government employee retires and receives almost twice what he was earning when working i think that is coruption and larceny. when i retired i received seventy percent of what I got when I worked. does anyone think there is something smelling in sacramento? why should the federal government bail these morons. if they are that stupid than they deserve to colaspse. as probably all the other stated did. what are we the slaves ?

  • jr bob

    the federal goverment can send the national guard down to arizona with orders to vaporize all the illegal alliens and cartel illegal also in the park and maybe they will get the message.stay out. and joke of hope can tell his buddy in mexico to get them out and keep the illegals in his own country and if he wont maybe we will call our troops back and send them down the correct some problem.

    • Airangel

      Bah! They won’t…they are giving those 3500 acres of Arizona Parkland to the Cartel…SIGNS POSTED for Americans to stay away from their homeland Parks and Recreation area or risk being shot or killed – WHAT? We can protect the life and liberty of foreigners in Iraq, Bosnia, Kuwait, Afghan, etc but not our own Citizens who are being invaded and terrorized on our own soil! This was beautiful land and wildlife refugee area and now we’re letting the Drug Cartel control it and have squatters rights! WTF? sorry

      • JC

        Maybe they’ve unwittingly created a new hunting preserve? ;)

      • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

        That’s a tough one to comprehend. Obama thinks his plan is so far along that he can start making areas off limits to Americans instead of defending our borders? They can but won’t destroy Afghans poppy fields you know. Mexico’s problem is all about graft and pot. Make hemp legal, make alcohol fuel and stop using oil.

  • Raggs

    I thought this poster was about another bail-out for the unions?

    Anyway…. All of the failures this administration has I’m not surprized to see obama cowing to the unions once again after all they are his only supporters…

    Dismantle ALL unions!
    They have become a political machine and they will be the demise of what is left of this country.

    • Airangel

      Raggs article is about the 50 billions bailout and I brought up AZ when I heard yesterday about the Drug Cartel seizing 80 miles of park land in AZ and we’re doing nothing. The wall was designed and engineered to be about 50bil and so I said to use it to secure our border because until it’s secured, deportation won’t work as they’ll just come back again and again…watch this video..the fact that we have to post signs for American Citizens to BEWARE on our own soil for fear of being murdered by foreigners galled me so my vote is Yes to the 50 billion but for the wall!

      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

      • Raggs

        I’m sorry!!!

        I understand your concern and believe me I’m am concerned as well!
        We have a dirty rotten bunch of snakes that think they are smarter than us running this country.

        I am however glad to see obama the messiah digging his hole deeper by the day.

        • Airangel

          I know..when you think it can’t get much worse, something else happens…if you step out and look in…no one could run a country so badly unless it is intentional. I think that the conspiracy that this is a master plan to get us angry enough to strike out is possibly true, then Martial Law can be called. Constitutionally we can create our own militia based on Section 9 of the Constitution based on Invasion and Public Safety…do they want that? Is this downward spiral planned? Is the Oil Spill a plan to secure Cap and Trade? I just don’t know what to believe any more..it wouldn’t be the first time human life and environmental hazards were used for power and political gain!

        • Claire

          Raggs–Yes, he is digging a deeper hole every day, but the problem is–he’s draginng us down with him.

          • Claire

            “dragging”

  • Ellen

    Anyone in Public Office needs to PASS a budget course before they are entitled to have any say about MONEY!
    The most important person, teacher, fireman, and on & on IS NOT the fault. Look at there UNIONS, The Big wigs, Lobbyist, CEO’s who make sure they get MONEY. Then we have all these so called Wash. DC people who are suppose to be in there FOR the PEOPLE making sure they get the best – Nutz to the rest of us. November is comming VOTE. LETS clean HOUSE and fire the whole bunch of no-gooders! Start RIGHT at the TOP! Stop this overspending unsensitive horror that is going on!

    • Allan

      I disagree with one point. Union members are part of the problem. They vote accordingly. There would be no unions if members didn’t think it gave them more guarantees. States in bad financial shape have union-driven obligations they can’t meet.

  • http://1972lenny@live.com larry maggard

    what is it about (BROKE) don’t you understand??? mr. prez!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Lynn

    Our teachers are paid by state & local taxes, not Federal funds. Same with Police and Firemen. this is just another giveaway for political payoff.

    What states are asking for this money? (Ill, CA, Nevada)

    • chuck b

      lynn

      the federal funds asked for by states such as calif. will in fact be used to bail out the unions: state & fed. school teachers, state workers and so on, the state of calif. tax revenue cannot keep up with the demand when these funds are used to support a federal welfare state. the constant demand for higher salaries for teachers by their unions and other state workers plus millions of illegal aliens and our own welfare contingency is more than the tax base can stand.
      by saying no, the state of california will have to correct its way and maybe do the right thing for once. remove the illegal aliens!!

      • Airangel

        I agree Chuck, until they change their ways and learn to manage and stay within a budget, they will just blow through any more money given to them. No lessons learned if the Government keeps giving in to their whims. I agree with other posters on here too…trim the fat in an overinflated Government. Freeze their salary for 3 years with no more raises, increase private sector jobs, create a VAT tax, do away with the IRS and the Federal Income Tax, keep State taxes as this does pay for police and fire protection…there are so many areas to cut the fat but they won’t because they have no integrity and just don’t care about the American people only about “what’s in it for me?”

  • Raggs

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/goodbye_to_one_man_one_vote.html

    Since everyone is shouting go and vote!
    I thought this may shed a little light on the subject.

    • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

      Geez, that took a long time to read. Since you read it couldn’t you have just given us a report? Like this..

      And the kicker is Robinson’s remedy: He approved a plan to give every resident six votes, which they can apportion among the six trustees to be elected any way they wish. It’s known as “cumulative voting.” No, we’re not in Kansas anymore, Toto. Heck, I’m not even so sure we’re in America.

      Contact the nearest Tea Party in New York, and find out if they can initiate legal proceedings, including throwing out this miserable excuse for a judge. Civil suits should immediately be brought upon the US Dept of Justice. Any and every delaying tactic should be used up until then.
      *
      pjt36 is correct. NULLIFICATION. AND letting the Feds know that any fed interfering with the election will be ARRESTED, TRIED and SENTENCED to, oh, say, 10 years in prison for interfering with a LEGAL, State election. This election has NOTHING to do with the Federal government if it does not violate any voting acts. The Feds need to butt out. We are at a turning point! NULLIFICATION!!! Stop the BEAST!!! States must start arresting Federal employees for breaking State and Commonwealth law! I see no other way to halt this monstrosity of a Federal government.
      *
      Whoa! Hold on thar! Time Out!!!!!

      “One man, one vote” is a marxist creation that was designed to do exactly what it has done: destroy property rights and give to those folks without income or assets political/taxing power over the property of everyone else. In his book, “A world Without Jews,” Marx said that when the unpropertied could vote/legislate, they controlled the property and that then there would be no private property – and I read that just like he did: no liberty, either. Can any of us say this plan hasn’t worked? It’s the entitlement mindset. Look at Greece. Look at the rest of Europe. How many people in this country today scream at the first hint that some of my “property”, my income, might be denied them by some evil Conservative?

      Cumulative voting my friends is a good thing – if we put it to use for the country. This is a precedent. There are several other precedents in which this was done. It’s been established. Let it ride. Then, let’s pass a voting rights act, or even an amendment (I can dream can’t I?) that gives cumulative voting rights only to those who have EARNED them. e.g., Everyone gets one vote. But!… If you have held a job for more than a year prior to the election, you can have two. Parents get votes for their children. Military members get votes for serving and another one if they’ve seen combat and another one if they were wounded in combat. Business owners, employing more than ten people and active in the management of their business get one for having the business. A college degree gets you one. A graduate degree gets you one. By this formulation I could have four or five votes right now.

      Imagine the power this returns to the middle class, to hard-working, productive Americans. So get off the “One man, one vote” deceit imposed by the Supreme Court because of Marxist/Progressive theory

  • Charlie

    When will the President stop spending? Today on a segment of the “Glen Beck Show” on FOX (Fox Cable News) was the following:
    Today, even though President Obama is against off shore drilling for our country, he signed an executive order to loan 2 Billion of our taxpayers dollars to a Brazilian Oil Exploration Company (which is the 8th largest company in the entire world) to drill for oil off the coast of Brazil ! The oil that comes from this operation is for the sole purpose and use of China and NOT THE USA ! Now here’s the real clincher… the Chinese government is under contract to purchase all the oil that this oil field will produce, which is hundreds of millions of barrels of oil”..
    We have absolutely no gain from this transaction whatsoever!

    • Airangel

      Maybe it’s going to the debt we owe China. They have us in their hip pocket as we can’t even pay the interest on the loans – unbelievable, and they just want to print more which is why I said if we’re going to blow 50 billion, put it on the border fence…in the long run we’ll save because we won’t have so much crime, welfare freebies to pay, overun hospitals and schools, vandalism, law enforcement, prisoner costs, etc…high cost now but will help overall in long term

    • Raggs

      That means we will buy oil from China.

      The last thing I bought from China didn’t last a year!

      • Airangel

        I was under the impression most of our oil came from Canada. Does someone know the numbers from Canada vs Saudi and Middle East?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Raggs,
        did you get any of the Shrek glasses from micky Ds??? If so, watch out for cadmium!!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Raggs,
        did you get any of the Shrek glasses from micky Ds??? If so, watch out for cadmium!!!! These were made in China as well!!!!

      • JC

        Angel, less than 10% comes from Canada. We actually get more natural gas from canada than we do oil.
        BP actually supplies the US with about 14% of its domestic oil and the US military with a whole lot more than that.

  • Ellen

    Could we hold back ALL our pennies until BIG Goverment cleans out the illeagl aliens. Then Start again with a new crew that PROVED there worth, “FOR THE PEOPLE.” Oh and Passed a SERIOUS Bugeting and Management course.??

  • Raggs

    Will the last person leaving the Constitutional Republic that was the United States of America please turn out the lights.

  • JC

    The Correlation Between Morons and Government Debt

    06/14/10 Tampa, Florida – DWS Funds is a “member of Deutsche Bank Group,” which I assume because it says so right on the cover of DWS Active magazine, an outfit which has somehow, without me actually noticing, over the years taken over some holdings of mine, so that now I sit, locked in a bunker and peering out at a hostile world through a periscope, wondering how a bunch of foreigners, who almost certainly hate my guts, in this case Germans, took possession of my American mutual fund, and thus took possession of my money, probably like somebody took possession of the Federal Reserve and thus took possession of America’s money, in which case we know exactly who it was, and it was Alan Greenspan and then Ben Bernanke, two villains who chaired the Federal Reserve and whose names will live in infamy because of the inflationary terrors unleashed by their irresponsible creations of more and more money, even more treacherous so than the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941, which gave rise to that “live in infamy” phrase, as these are The Guys who destroyed the buying power of the dollar and destroyed the USA.

    Anyway, the magazine doesn’t get into any of that, or even mention how I hate the Federal Reserve with an incandescent, white-hot fury, and instead presents an interesting graph titled “Where are interest rates headed next?” which showed the yield on 10-year Treasury bonds graphed from 1954 to 2009….

    http://dailyreckoning.com/the-correlation-between-morons-and-government-debt/

  • animal

    personally i think that this clown that got elected is the anti-christ. if he slants the vote by giving amnesty to the 12 million illegals we are doomed. yeah he is screwing us bad here but he is screwing us bad with all the other nations also . the racial war will jump off in the south and should lead to chaos and anarchy, thats when he will have his blue helmets go door to door and kill you and or put you in a work camp if you dont take his mark.

    • Raggs

      If the shoe fit’s..

      And it does!

  • clydeG.

    The final curtain will make Benito Mussolini’s going away party look like TIDDLYWINKS.

  • WarriorH

    This request most likely fits within the “PLAYGO” rule that was passed by congress in December. Let’s see, we take 20 bil from BP; we’ll get 30 bil from the slubs selling their stock portfolio’s before the Jan 1 tax increase. There, us dems know how to play this game well don’t we?

  • http://gmail i41

    Don’t be to surprised, when the puke brained democrat green tree huggers, step in to the fray and want more crap pipe dreams, to to hinder our economy, go farther to the left to destroy the USA. Socialist dems just can not get away from wasteful spending. Why doesn’t Onumnut quite spending so much on his golfing, taking Big Mamoo on spending trips and shopping sprees, ever day Americans stop frivolous spending and just plain screrwing around. But we forget the beltway is full of eleitists and life employed democrats, who don’t pay taxes or are productive organisms.

  • chuck b

    raggs

    im reference to your link “the american thinker”, did anyone call this judge on that ruling?. that’s unbelievable. how can he get away with it??

    • Raggs

      I’m sure obama and pelosi backs it.

      The link is not a fluke as some would suggest even though the left would say otherwise.

      Amnesty for the illegals has alway’s been a problem and now we are in a much larger scale.
      This would go a long way to explain our teleprompting so called president on his agenda.

      If any of you do not believe me then you should look it up, you cannot argue with me if you throw lies.

      I do not know if anyone other than the middle americans have called this “judge” out… I guess he is in part with the far left and is protected by them.

      • Raggs

        This is a sad story folks!

        We have a do-nothing-president… I myself will not give him the honor of the title..

        As far as I’m concerned he can fly to China.

  • Laverne Kilner(Vernie)

    I am a Canadian, and I have a feeling of sorrow and despair to see what is happening to our wonderful neighbor to the south. I think that the election of Barak Hussein Obama , was partly , an attempt to show that they had gone beyond the Black/white issue and that ,indeed ,any American born citizen had the opportunity to become President. If only the “enquiring” press had looked deeper into his background and discovered that he was NOT a loyal American , and worked against the Government as a “community organizer” in Chacago , and, like his beloved mentor and preacher for 20 yrs , Rev Wright, really hated America and wished to take it down. I also believe that , tho’ he was supposed to have come from very humble beginnings( raised by a ‘penniless grandmother’), etc, he was actually schooled and groomed by underground organizations funded by Socialists like GEORGE SOROS,
    and left wing underground groups like ‘ACORN’to evevtually bring America towards SOCIALIST WORLD GOVERNMENT !
    All I can do now is pray ( and I mean PRAY ), that Americans will wake up before these Socialis/ Communists have realized their ambition !!

    he
    citizen had the opportunity to be

    • libertytrain

      Thanks so much for sharing your opinion with us. It is a kind of sad time for us.

    • Raggs

      Thats sad when you from another country see the writing on the wall and the people in this country are blind.

    • JC

      Thanks Vernie,
      I have a bunch of in-laws in southern Alberta who saw the same writing on the wall you did. They are very nervous about events in the US and want us to come and be with them.

      • Claire

        JC–Now this bothers me. Maybe I should pack up and move. Being here in Illinois I sure want to.

        • JC

          If you’re going to do that…try Arizona.
          It’s a very “American” state.

  • chuck b

    vernie

    our danger at this moment is we have at least 42% of our country who agrees with this guy, that’s the scary part and there’s the other percentage that change their opinion by the day the media with their polls can swing their support back and forth, this is the swing vote.

    all i can say is we are in deep trouble a large uncaring vote, voters that vote on the color of the skin, not the integrity of an individual.

    • Claire

      chuck b–I have a horrible feeling about November, I hope and pray I am wrong.

      • Raggs

        You haven’t seen nothing yet.

        read the news…. NY is willing to give “minorities” a vote that accounts for six votes compared to a white man with one vote.

      • chuck b

        claire

        your feeling for november is probably the same one i have. if people on the right think we are going to have a landslide in november, they better have another thought.
        go back up the page and read the link raggs refers too. this is no doubt if true and it looks like it is, the way these corrupt judges in our society have been and will change the direction of our country to a communist dictatorship. they have their pawns in the illegal population. what will be interesting to see, how they get rid of barry!! will they throw him to the wolves in 2011 and bring hillary in?? could be, shes a devout marxist.

        • Claire

          chuck b– I think you are right on the button. Egads, if Hillary runs, she will probably be elected. I am amazed she did not beat Obama for the nomination! My gosh, I couldn’t believe all the women that backed Hillary. And I remember a huge petition going around against Sarah. Here in my area, they had almost 500 thousand signatures in less than a week!! Some people probably signed more than once. I don’t think Sarah could beat Hillary, it is hard to guess. I don’t have a real problem with Sarah, but I can’t stand Michelle Bachman. Bachman is an airhead, she does not strike me as being sincere.
          I don’t know who in the heck to vote for here in Illinois. The Republicans are nuts. They are as bad as the Dems. This state is so bad off, it is pathetic. Wish the illegals would leave.

          • JC

            Breathe! and…
            Keep the faith Claire.

          • Claire

            JC– lol I breathe a lot! And I am trying to keep the faith. Thanks for the words of encouragement. I need them.

  • http://gmail i41

    I don’t know about Hillary and Onumnut, Onumnut has too many idoit rinos, like “Anal” Colin Powell, and several finacial advisors, who endorsed Onumnut, that are black smucks who will vote for him again, since he is a Kenyan muslim socialist. Plus I think the muslim will ditch “FOOT IN HIS MOUTH Biden, and go with the dyke Hillary. Both are Chicagoians and will make and cut deals to keep going, no matter how stenchy it is. With unemployment climbing another 12,000, especially in the summer months when every able bodied person should be able to get a job on construction, it doesn’t bode well as the year progresses. The muslim and democrats stimulas program with hope and change, just will not work. If the dems keep following the marxist and communist plan, there might not be an election, excetive orders again will be in effect.

    • chuck b

      141

      when carville came out so strong against barry, thats why i think there might be something working in the background with hillary. carville is a hitman for the clintons.
      tou may be right about biden, i think the only reason hes vp is to keep someone from removing barry.

  • godi38

    The real world outer our limits and our world inside this limits have the same problem NO WORK. Who is guilty in a world like our? It is a daily screaming to indicate our president guilt. During 400 years, we have been leaving our government to decide business like we have been seeing at begin of our presidency; we know now what of dirty business were involving Americas dream. Millions dollars were distributed among few super brains. Salaries were giving likes a bag. However, everybody ignores this behavior important is to have a salary. Now million people screaming for jobs and nobody can help if it is not only what is necessary. Some will have a job and others will not.
    The big factory with hundreds of employees is only a remembering past, everything is empty and dead. Now a computer is our daily bread and work source. Peoples who cannot learn it, he has not chance to have a job. Million are waiting for a miracle and accusing our president because he doesn’t produce works for them. The only cheaper workers are the military who is defending our interest in the outer world.
    The emigrant is doing the hard work, and they are leaving their blood and health in our streets, fields and houses, who want to do a job direct to the sun or to the cold winter?
    Equal problems involve Europe and millions around the globe are searching a job, any job. Who will suck up the oil from our seas? God be thanks that until now our president have enough serenity, although the insults by some big mouth that always existing everywhere in the world.

  • ABinGA

    The link Raggs had was also in Newsmax yesterday. As far as I know it is true. I myself can’t figure out how they got away with it. There was also a post above from chuck b commenting on the vote just because the color of skin. Very true. I also still believe that if we are lucky enough to vote Obama out, we’ll see the likes of L.A. after Rodney King. I really hope I’m wrong on this but regardless the outcome, we’ve gotta get him and others out of there.

  • ABinGA

    One clarification. Everyone got six votes. Not just the hispanic population.

  • chuck b

    abinga

    the article i read said one (minority)man six votes. i don’t think it meant everyone got 6, that wouldn’t accomplish anything. its disgusting to say the least.

  • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

    First this..
    And the kicker is Robinson’s remedy: He approved a plan to give every resident six votes, which they can apportion among the six trustees to be elected any way they wish. It’s known as “cumulative voting.”

    Then this..
    pjt36 is correct. NULLIFICATION. AND letting the Feds know that any fed interfering with the election will be ARRESTED, TRIED and SENTENCED to, oh, say, 10 years in prison for interfering with a LEGAL, State election. This election has NOTHING to do with the Federal government if it does not violate any voting acts. The Feds need to butt out. We are at a turning point! NULLIFICATION!!! Stop the BEAST!!! States must start arresting Federal employees for breaking State and Commonwealth law! I see no other way to halt this monstrosity of a Federal government.

  • http://www.realcolorwheel.com/ DonJ

    Nullification:
    http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=944

    As Obama likes to say, “Let me be clear”. When the federal government steps beyond the boundaries that are specifically drawn around it by the Constitution and its amendments, it isn’t abusing powers that it does have, it’s usurping powers that it doesn’t have.

    Question: What should the people of the several states’ reaction to federal usurpation be?

    Answer: Swift and resolute action in the form of nullification and/or interposition by, with and through our state governments and their county and local subordinates.

    In such cases, we must not exercise patience and wait to “Vote the bums out” in 2012 or even as soon as 2010! We should do that when the time comes, yes. But in the meantime, to allow our state governments to wait until the usurpers are removed from office through elections would be to consent to a dangerous dereliction of their duty to protect our constitutional rights.

    What is Nullification?

    In 1798, Thomas Jefferson wrote the Kentucky Resolutions in response to the Alien and Sedition Acts, which was one of the federal government’s earliest acts of usurpation. An early draft of it began:

    “The several states composing the United States of America are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government”

    and

    “where powers are assumed which have not been delegated, a nullification of the act is the rightful remedy: that every State has a natural right in cases not within the compact, to nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power by others within their limits: that without this right, they would be under the dominion, absolute and unlimited, of whosoever might exercise this right of judgment for them”

    Nullification is a state’s decision to render a particular federal law that it deems unconstitutional void and inoperative, or non-effective, within the boundaries of that state. It is a process which can unfold in a variety of ways. It may involve formal legislation, or it may not. I could include court battles, but not necessarily. Interposition by state and local officials, such as your state’s Attorney General or elected county sheriff might be required, but not always. A few times in the past, state nullification conventions have even been convened, but this has been the exception, not the rule.

    The process of nullification will look different in each state, according to the particular issue and the social and political culture of that state’s people. But understand, although it’s not a ‘silver bullet”, nullification does work! Don’t let anyone feed you a bunch of phony historical narratives. Do your own study of the history of nullification and see for yourself.

    Finally, as George Washington wrote, let there be no change by usurpation! Instead, let us work with our elected state officials to nullify acts of federal usurpation and reclaim the sovereignty that is every American’s birthright.

  • Laverne Kilner(Vernie)

    From Canada . I understand that ACORN and other radical left wingers,
    before the last election , travelled throughout the US to people who had never voted or never had any intention of voting and signed them up on the voter’s list. Many were in colleges, and sports groups who have no real knowledge of what the real issues are , but only that- how wonderful it would be to elect a Black President who made a lot of rash promises for a “Valhalla” if he were elected.
    That, my dear American friends is B H O’s voter base and ,uless you get out there and spread the ‘word’ he will be elected again – and all I can say is “GOD HELP AMERICA” if that happens , as it will NEVER recover from such a fate .

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    had to face the fact: A Straight Talk reader had fallen victim to 100 years of liberal brainwashing. What he said was such a gross perversion of the truth—and the difference is so incredibly important to preserving what liberties we have left—I hope you’ll indulge me in a brief history lesson this week.

    If you remember much from your high school history classes about the founding of this country, you know there was a great deal of controversy about what type of government the newly independent states should create.

    The first effort, the Articles of Confederation, was generally regarded as a failure. But what should replace them? Each state sent a group of representatives to meet in Philadelphia and hammer out a new agreement. The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention in 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended, eager to learn what had been produced behind those closed doors.

    As the delegates left the building, a Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got?”

    With no hesitation, Franklin replied, “A republic, if you can keep it.” Not a democracy, not a democratic republic. But “a republic, if you can keep it.”

    Over the past four decades I have recounted this story several hundred times. For many years I traveled the country giving speeches about the threats to this Republic. I always enjoyed the opportunity to talk to high school students when I could wrangle an invitation. When I did, I loved to tell them about the differences between a republic and a democracy.

    “A lynch mob is democracy in action,” I would say. “While if you believe someone is innocent until proven guilty, that they deserve their day in court and that a jury of their peers should decide their fate, then you believe in a nation of laws, not just the whims of a mob.”

    Another line I used a lot was, “Democracy is five wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. If you were the sheep, which would you rather live in—a republic or a democracy?”

    I told them about the importance of “binding men down with the chains of a Constitution.” That this was the only sure way to protect their freedom. And that anyone who wanted to change this republic into a democracy was an enemy of liberty.

    A century or two earlier there would have been no need to give such a talk—and no interest if one did. Back in the 18th and 19th centuries, every American who could read and write (and probably most of those who couldn’t), knew we were a republic. The campaign to brainwash us into believing we were a democracy didn’t begin until 100 years ago. Today, if you take a poll of high school or college students, the overwhelming majority will tell you that we are a democracy.

    Please don’t dismiss this as a mere quarrel over semantics. Understanding the difference between the two systems of government is absolutely vital. I am not exaggerating when I tell you that our very liberties depend on getting more Americans to realize the importance of this seemingly arcane dispute.

    Our Founding Fathers Feared And Hated Democracy
    Most high school students who heard me say such a thing were surprised and shocked. They had been taught that the United States was, and had always been, a democracy. That “majority rule” was the fairest of all possible forms of government.
    Who was this guy to tell them they’d been lied to?

    So I quoted what some of our founding fathers had to say. I asked if they had heard of The Federalist Papers—the collection of articles written during the debate over ratifying the new constitution.

    In Federalist No. 10, James Madison, often referred to as “the father of the Constitution,” had this to say:

    “…democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they are violent in their deaths.”

    Alexander Hamilton concurred. In a speech he gave in June 1788, urging ratification of the Constitution, he thundered:

    “The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.”

    Fisher Ames, a member of Congress during the eight years that George Washington was president, wrote an essay called “the Mire of Democracy.” In it, he said that the framers of the Constitution “intended our government should be a republic, which differs more widely from a democracy than a democracy from despotism.”

    Yes, our founding fathers were well aware of the differences between a republic and a democracy. They revered the former; but as I said above, they hated and feared the latter.

    In view of the founders’ ardent convictions, it is no surprise that you cannot find the word “democracy” anywhere in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the U.S. Indeed, the Constitution not only proclaimed that our Federal government should be a republic; it went further and mandated that “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a republican form of government.”

    These principles used to be widely understood and commonly accepted. John Marshall, chief justice of the Supreme Court from 1801 until 1835, said that, “Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.” Ralph Waldo Emerson wrote that “democracy becomes a government of bullies tempered by editors.”

    Nor was it only Americans who feared and despised democracy. Lord Acton, the famous Englishman who coined the aphorism that “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely,” had this to say:

    “The one prevailing evil of democracy is the tyranny of the majority, or rather that party, not always the majority, that succeeds, by force or fraud, in carrying elections.”

    It was only during the last century that the falsehood about this country being a democracy became widely accepted. Woodrow Wilson declared that we fought World War I “to make the world safe for democracy.” Franklin Roosevelt said that the U.S. “must be the great arsenal of democracy.”

    So today, almost every schoolchild in America believes that the U.S. is a democracy. Why did the liberal intelligentsia in this country, supported by their slavish followers in the media and their docile puppets in politics, pull this “bait and switch” on us?

    For the answer, let’s turn to another Englishman, Alexander Fraser Tytler, also known as Lord Woodhouselee, who wrote:

    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.”

    The only part of Mr. Tytler’s warning I’ll dispute is his use of the word “always.” You and I have been given the power to prevent our country’s descent into a democracy. It’s called the ballot box. Let’s hope enough of us use it this coming Nov. 2 to begin the process of taking our country back.

    Until next time, keep some powder dry

  • CHUCKY

    The danger to America is not Barack Hussein Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Hussein Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

  • david

    THE GOVERNMENT CAN BAILOUT AIG, GIVE THE AIG ESECUTIVE’S BONUS MONEY FROM THE BAILOUT, LAVISH PARTIE’S AT RESORT’S, BUT THE GOVERNMENT WON’T GIVE EXTENED UNEMPLOYMENT TO THE LITTLE GUY WHO NEED’S IT TO SUPPORT HIMSELF & FAMILY. AIG SHOULD PAY BACK PLUS INTEREST TO THE U.S. GOV. AND AIG EXEC. SHOULD GIVE BACK THERE BONUS’S TO THE U.S. GOV, THEN WE WOULD HAVE MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT OUR 10% UNEMPLOYMENT.THE SENATE & CONGRESS ARE STILL GETTING PAID, WHILE ON VACATION , BUT IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED YOU GET NOTHING, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN OUR EB CLAIM. I AM FRUSTRATED WITH OUR GOV. THE SENATE & CONGRESS SHOULD ONLY BE IN OFFICE 3 YEAR’S THEN QUIT, GO ON WELFARE, GET A JOB, AND PAY THERE OWN HEALTH INSURANCE UNTIL THEY HAVE TO GO INTO A NURSING HOME OR DIE.

  • James

    Borrowing and then lending more billions of dollars to small businesses, only postpones the inevitable. No one has ever borrowed and spent their way out of debt. Until the national debt (now at $14 trillion) and personal debts are reduced to manageable figures, the recession will continue.
    President Obama is doing what President Franklin D. Roosevelt did. After the stock market crashed in 1929, and business and bank failures increased, and unemployment reached 25% of the workforce, FDR started borrowing and spending money into the economy. He started that in 1933, but by 1940 17% were still unemployed. It is now admitted by some authorities, that had FDR done nothing, debts would have been written off and the economy would have recovered in 2 or 3 years.

  • http://namaholston@aol.com Shell

    It won’t help to spend money we don’t have to protect jobs that Obama wants to save. There comes a time we have to bite the bullet and protect the borders even if it is on a volunter basis and with the borders so compromised now we need real bullets in real guns to stop the infiltration rather than cede land to Mexico because the creep will continue until it hits middle America, if it hasn’t already. Our Country should be sovereign and English speaking, undiluted and free from outside influence from the White House.

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