Obama: An Obedient Saudi Servant To The End

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“(Saudi Arabia is) one of the worst, most draconian regimes in the world.” — M. Zudhi Jasser, author of A Battle for the Soul of Islam: An American Muslim Patriot’s Fight to Save His Faith

The news seemed shocking last week when the U.S. State Department announced that 19 embassies and consulates in the Mideast and Africa will be closed through this week.

The State Department said closures were out of an “abundance of caution” and “not an indication of a new threat.” This is an abundance of caution? That is like saying you might not want to drive your car this week because it would be more cautious to stay home.

The truth is that if this Mideast mess keeps getting worse, you might not be able to drive your car because you might not have any fuel to fill it. One of the embassies that closed, just to be safe, is in Saudi Arabia — home to the largest conventional oil reserves in the world and the oil kingpin that has been dictating world oil prices since the Richard Nixon Administration.

And let us not forget the warning by our government to U.S. citizens that al-Qaida and extremist groups (who all just happen to be Muslim) may be planning terrorist attacks in the Mideast and North Africa.

Representative C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger, D-Md., told ABC’s “This Week” that the threat intercepted from “high-level people in al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula” was about a “major attack.”

To date, there is not a mention by Washington of that evil empire to the north — the one that mines oil from oil sands, which, in turn, kills ducks. Apparently, the embassy in Ottawa, Ontario, is going to remain open. There are no travel warnings to Americans coming to Canada about blue-eyed sheiks.

Despite all this Mideast angst, President Barack Obama is dead set on supporting Arab oil exporters like Saudi Arabia while criticizing Canada’s oil industry. It seems to the Obama Administration and his liberal green backers that it is worse to spew carbon into the atmosphere than it is to butcher Americans.

Obama is the worst to both worlds: a liberal and a neocon.

The United States continues to spend billions of dollars in Muslim kingdoms that, in turn, spend money to buy off al-Qaida. Better to pump up Islamic extremists than to trust Canadians, whom we fought in 1812.

It’s not as though Obama is ignorant of the Mideast and Africa. He understands the region better than any President. For Pete’s — I mean Muhammad’s — sake, Obama had a Kenyan father who by all accounts was a die-hard Muslim.

The President addressed American policy on the Mideast two years ago:

Yet we must acknowledge that a strategy based solely upon the narrow pursuit of these interests will not fill an empty stomach or allow someone to speak their mind.  Moreover, failure to speak to the broader aspirations of ordinary people will only feed the suspicion that has festered for years that the United States pursues our interests at their expense.  Given that this mistrust runs both ways –- as Americans have been seared by hostage-taking and violent rhetoric and terrorist attacks that have killed thousands of our citizens -– a failure to change our approach threatens a deepening spiral of division between the United States and the Arab world.

Speak whose mind, Mr. President? Not the people of Saudi Arabia, unless they want to be tied to the stake and lashed. No kidding, folks, the Saudis still embrace Middle Ages law and order. They proved it a couple of weeks ago when Raif Badawi, founder of the Free Saudi Liberals website, was sentenced to 600 lashes and seven years in prison.

No doubt, the king and royal princes think he had it coming. After all, he was convicted of insulting Islam, speaking ill of Saudi Arabia’s religious police and, even worse, “parental disobedience.”

It turns out Badawi is a brat that doesn’t listen to dad. Keep in mind he is a 30-year-old man. When I was 30, I wasn’t always making the choices in life my dad wanted; but he didn’t have the religious police round me up and deliver the lash. In fact, the old man gave me my last spanking at age 11.

Hopefully, the lashes will be spread out over time; because if memory serves me from my days in history class, 100 of them delivered in one “sitting” will kill a person. Oh, well. That would be one less person to object to King Abdullah, the 80-year-old monarch, the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques and a friend of Obama’s.

Last month, King Abdullah and Obama met to discuss progress in the Mideast. What progress means to King Abdullah might be allowing women to ride a bicycle without being arrested and beaten. I am more interested in what Mideast progress means to Obama. I suspect it has something to do with locking in more oil from the region so he won’t have to deal with those obnoxious Canadians and their obsession with beer and hockey.

Last week, CNNMoney ran this headline: “If Wall Street’s right, Obama may nix Keystone.”  The story, which is based on a Wall Street Journal article, reported that Obama is still on the fence regarding the passage of the Keystone oil sands pipeline and that he may turn it down because scientists have informed him that Canada’s oil sands are thought to be some 17 percent more carbon intense than regular crude oil.

Seventeen percent! That is going to be the difference between getting oil from a dependable and civilized nation next door and getting it from the Mideast, which is imploding?

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The same month he meet with King Abdullah, Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency said the pipeline was bound to have an impact on climate change.

At the end of July, the President gave an interview to The New York Times in which he pooh-poohed the number of long-term jobs that would be created by Keystone and said that if approved Keystone might actually cause gasoline prices to go up.

Obama said, “(O)il is going to be piped down to the Gulf to be sold on the world oil markets, so it does not bring down gas prices here in the United States. In fact, it might actually cause some gas prices in the Midwest to go up where currently they can’t ship some of that oil to world markets.”

That’s a prime example of Marxist economic theory.

The Economist wrote that the President’s comments amounted to a “kick in the teeth.” A member of the government of Canada put it differently, saying that if Obama turns down Keystone it will be like a “kick in the balls.”

It is starting to look like Obama will turn it down. It will create a deep divide between the United States and Canada, but perhaps Obama just wants to keep the greens happy and add to his liberal legacy. Another reason could be that he wants to stay on good terms with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the homeland of Masjid al-Haram (The Sacred Mosque) in the city of Mecca. It seems what happens in Mecca stays in Mecca.

It also seems that Obama will remain an obedient Saudi servant to the bitter end. We’ll have to see whether it is just to the end of his Presidency or if it’s until the end of America.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers

Personal Liberty

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • KG

    Mr Meyers, you are absolutely right. quote: Better to pump up Islamic extremists than to trust Canadians, whom we fought in 1812. It’s true when the Canadian is as impaired morally as his Arab proteges.

    You fail to mention the myriad of lawsuits people have filed against TransCanada over many more issues that the environmental ones you dismiss. How about the fact that the current capacity of Canadian oil pipelines is more than adequate to deliver oil to the US refineries? An expansion of capacity would cause many American owned and operated pipelines to run at less than half their current capability. What this whole affair is really about is Canada attempting to corner the pipeline market in America. If James Madison were president today, he would declare war on you canucks in a second.

    • Tony Silverence

      Just about every American seems to be picking ONE issue to protest or dwell upon. For example: Immigration, Environment, The Debt, Justice issues, ect. IF we finally United to solve the REAL problem, which is deposing the MORONS we elected to run our government, we would all be better off. These “Career Politicians” don’t care for those they represent. Instead, they line their pockets with PAC money and corporate contributions. They do the bidding of those who provide KICK BACKS and other “incentives” to pass laws that will CRIPPLE the average American. I don’t are what side of the political fence your on. IF you actually BELIEVE this government is “for the people,” Then I have a Bridge in Brooklyn that I would like to sell you!

      • dan

        divide and conquer…bait and switch ; con artists, thieves and crooks

        • podunk1

          To my knowledge, monopoly is still a crime that carries triple damages. Historically, we import 2/3 of the crude we consume. Crude is a pivotal transportation requirement. There is no food or other necessity without transportation! We can’t sustain life, let alone protect it from avowed enemies without petroleum and energy resources! The monopolist (OPEC) that controls supply and price lives within the belly of the beast that is the mid east Armageddon crisis! Their ability to restrict supply and raise prices HAS BEEN creating economic and financial chaos! That’s fact!

          We have more than enough natural resources to oversupply all of our own needs. There is no natural obstruction to total energy independence
          by extracting those resources and jointly interconnecting common peaceful and friendly US and Canadian oil resources! It’s about SURVIVING acts of terror or war! Because it takes years build the resource infrastructure, our nation and population are in immediate danger!

          Our president uses his power to delay, obstruct, and deny energy independence and the Canadian pipeline. Without that conspiracy, OPEC and their “compliant” suppliers COULDN’T charge two to three times more than a competitive supply/demand economy! That approximate raw cost illustration penalty @ $100/bbl crude and 600 billion barrels/yr is $300 to $400 billion per year! That is significantly multiplied through refinement, production, and application of energy through end use. Traditional treble damages would be well above $1 trillion!

          The issues are oil availability, ownership, and price! The immediate risk is economic collapse,
          death, and loss of freedom! Our president and OPEC manipulate supply by restraining and crippling our national ability to competitively supply ourselves. Monopolists freely loot the country! The money trail and dots say it’s
          treason. Are we afraid to offend traitors?

          • dan

            I follow the oil industry sites….the real secret is that we import crude and EXPORT gas and refined oil (heating fuel and diesel fuel)

      • Bill

        Good analogy, Tony
        We are currently a fascist government and the politicians are just feathering their nests and could care less about those that elected them.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yeild, and government to gain ground” — Thomas Jefferson.

          “To say governments were formed to protect the rights of men would be historically incorrect. Almost all governments were formed by ruthless men exerting their will over others through the use of force. Some governments, over time, evolved toward the rule of law, perhaps only because their rulers saw that this would sanction their own continued enjoyment of the wealth that they possessed. In some instances, this evolution involved one or more “revolutions” in which those who were governed were able to better establish the rule of law” — Clifford Thies

          • Virgil Lipinski

            If souls, especially our leaders & pols only understood the real meaning of GOVERNMENT.

            GOVERNMENT=”GOD OVER MEN”

            Unless those in power are walking the straight & narrow, nothing will work, whatever the philosophy. How can they govern us, if they first cannot govern themselves?

      • nc

        Tony, I kept asking myself if our Congressmen go to Washington “on the take” or do they get caught up in the system when they get there and “go on the take”? I think the question is now academic since they must “take” from someone or some group(S) just to get there the first time with the high costs of winning an election to Congress! They arrive there “indebted” to someone or some group(s) who financed their way!
        As pure as the ultra conservatives here see themselves, I am sure that if they ever overcome their two percent of the vote and elect representatives they will arrive in Washington with the same taint of having to dance with who brung them!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I think this article explains it well:
          http://www.whale.to/b/callahan1.html

        • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

          The only solution I can see is term limits, so they don’t make a 4-5 decade career in politics. The wonderful Tom Coburn has actually instituted these term limits on himself & he has stuck to his word!

      • Bon, From the Land of Babble

        Exactly, and well stated. Most politicians are bought and paid for whores doing their masters’ bidding — i.e,. whoever financed their campaigns.

        This includes obama who, as he himself admitted, is far above his pay grade — which is fetching coffee (as Bill Clinton said).

        Ever heard obama w/o his pre-written speeches and talking points delivered via teleprompter (TOTUS)? He mumbles, bumbles, stumbles and hesitates, his books were ghost written for him.

        As always, follow the money: That’s where the answers are.

        Bon

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Governments throughout history have been established on self-interest and Mercantilism. We had a brief respite from that between 1787 and 1861. Since then, it’s been back to business as usual for Government because the average person just doesn’t want to be bothered to think:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Conceived%20in%20Liberty_Vol_2.pdf

    • smilee

      They are not attempting the to corner the pipeline market in America, they are attempting to get a pipeline to the gulf so they can ship their product over seas including to China at a much cheaper way than over land to the west coast. This is only about their profits and does nothing to make us oil independent or do anything to reduce our gasoline prices. This oil is not intended for consumption in the US as they want us to believe. It also puts our environment at risk if the pipeline ever fails.

    • Bill

      KG
      So now you want to declare war on Canada? Is it really because they have moved away from liberalism and “Saw the light” as far as promoting the private sector and the free marketplace.
      Or is it because they have set up factories along our border to handle the manufacturing that we have to outsource because of draconian regulation promoted by people like you whose real goal is to kill capitalism?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      KGB says — “An expansion of capacity would cause many American owned and operated pipelines to run at less than half their current capability”.
      Then KGB says — “What this whole affair is really about is Canada attempting to corner the pipeline market in America”.
      First KGB rails against competition, then he rails against monopoly.
      Would you make up your mind, KGB? Or do you even have one?

  • Steve Stribley

    I get more disgusted every time I see Obama. We have to get America back from these tyrants.

    • KG

      Were you as disgusted when ‘W” was lying to congress? Or when he bombed innocent Iraqis in the middle of the night to help Exxon, Shell and Haliburton in cornering the worlds oil? Or when Rumsfeld thought it a good way to save the military money by making applications for veterans benefits as difficult as he could?

      Thats exactly what our President is doing – “…get America back from these tyrants.”

      • BigGeezer

        ‘W” was lying to congress?’

        … exactly what lie did W present to congress? Please be specific.

        ‘he bombed innocent Iraqis’

        … are you referring to the war that the democrats demanded the US enter back in 2002?

        ‘Haliburton in cornering the worlds oil’

        … are you referring to the same Haliburton that the clintons used EXCLUSIVELY during their presidency?

        ‘making applications for veterans benefits as difficult as he could?’

        no need to expand this… this is simply a lie.

        Otherwise, we’re just trying to get some facts from you…

        • KG

          Tell me, on what planet have you’ve been living on????

          • BigGeezer

            no … tell us specifically what you find in my post to be ‘out of this world’?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Don’t hold your breath, Geezer. KGB is just here to disrupt the board with nonsense.

          • Vis Fac

            Not Mars where you are living

          • VirginiaConservative

            Force Recon. I think you have that wrong, he lives on planet Libtardia. Mars would not grant him asylum.

          • Vis Fac

            I stand corrected!! Thank you fro setting me straight.
            Semper-Fi

          • VirginiaConservative

            I was glad to be of help :)

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          • Ringgo1

            This message from KG is brought to you by your department of redundancy department.

        • NC

          big geezer, who can “demand” that the Commander-in Chief send troops into combat??? Certainly not the minority Democrats in the Republican controlled Congress of 2002!!! That war was the “baby” of “THE DECIDER”!!!
          REMEMBER HIM??? THE SAME MAN WHO SENT COLIN POWELL TO THE UN WITH A BUNCH OF TRUMPED UP PICTURES OF THINGS NO ONE EVER FOUND. NUCLEAR FACILITIES AND DEADLY LABS ??? COME ON GEEZER! JUST MAN UP!!

          • BigGeezer

            common on tony… I never said that the democrats made the decision to enter the war… I simply stated that the democrats overwhelmingly demanded and supported that Bush make that difficult decision to enter the war… please don’t play these stupid little gotcha games… we’re here to engage in honest debate.

            Here is Hilary’s speech to the US Senate

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wyCBF5CsCA

            and here is a short version of her speech

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkS9y5t0tR0

            (and as much as I despise her as a person and statesman she is completely correct in her speech).

            And regarding powelll… have you ever heard him say he didn’t support the accuracy of his speech? And yes, the information gathering that powell used for his documentation is the same stuff the democrats … and hillary collected and confirmed to be correct… and confirmation/support came from the vast majorities of the worlds free countries and their leaders.

            Do you question the FACT that Hussein did not poses WMD’s? If so, why don’t you try asking the 160,000 dead Kurds that Hussein used WMD’s on? Would love to have further discussion with you but common on… you have to at least try being honest and factual in your posts.

      • RAND PAUL IN 2016

        Both sides for the most part are corrupt & evil lawbreakers & liars…But Obama & Holder et al. have taken it to a whole new level, Chicago-style Alinskyites & thugs!…far more anti-Life & Pro-Homo, phony greenies, too!

        • KG

          So the atheist loving Rand Paul is going to be any different?

          • FreedomFighter

            Just for you KG…

            For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For
            those who do not understand, no explanation is possible. Not fair to make
            judgment of this until you see what the Fire Chief says.

            In South Los Angeles a 4-plex home was destroyed by a fire. A Mexican
            family of six welfare recipients and gang members lived on the first floor,
            they died.

            An Islamic group of seven welfare cheats all illegally in the
            country from Kenya, lived on the second floor and they too, all perished in the
            fire. Six Hispanic, gang bangers, and ex-cons lived on the 3rd floor and
            they too, died.

            A lone white couple lived on the top floor. The couple survived the fire.

            Jesse Jackson, John Burris and Al Sharpton were furious!! They flew into
            LA and met with the fire chief on camera. They loudly demanded to know
            why the blacks, black Muslims and Hispanics all died in the fire and why only
            the white couple lived?

            The Fire Chief said, “They were at work.”

            from an email…so much truth for a joke or is it a true story KG?
            Laus DeoSemper FI

          • KG

            How does a white guy say “F” you?

            “Trust me”

          • RAND PAUL IN 2016

            Oh yeah…what atheist would sponsor the “Life at Conception Act”? Hey, no one is perfect, but form what I’ve seen, Ron & Rand Paul are as good as it gets in 21st Century America in politics!

          • TheOriginalDaveH
      • Ried

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • Bill

        Kg
        And I bet you believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny also.
        There you go again, just making stuff up to push your communist agenda. When you gazed at your poster of Obama on your wall today, did you kiss his backside as part of your daily ritual?

        • Vis Fac

          Better than living with the cerebral necrosis you have lived with all these years

          • Ringgo1

            Aw, Force Recon, I thought better of you. (Two Marines whose names I never knew saved my @zz in the summer of 1969, and to this day I feel I owe the Marines…) Thank you for your service. S’.F’.

          • Vis Fac

            I suppose Marines aren’t allowed to have opinions think freely or be assertive. Marines ask for no thanks as we are just doing our job. All we ask is a little respect.
            Semper-Fi

          • Ringgo1

            You certainly have MY respect, Sir! Thanks again, just the same.

          • Vis Fac

            Right back at you!
            Semper-Fi

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Actually, the list of tyrants goes all the way back to Abraham Lincoln:
        https://mises.org/store/Real-Lincoln-The-P172.aspx

      • Steve Stribley

        Yeah, I was disgusted and repulsed by all of the greed, corruption, and tyranny. There are no excuses. But it is pathetic to think anyone would feel Obama is doing a good job. It is true to say you can’t argue with stupid and you can’t teach common sense.

        • KG

          Considering the circumstances, I feel that our President is doing a darn good job. I think it was Francis Bacon who said “Nothing in the world is more uncommon that common sense.” That’s just humans being human. The President has had a huge plateful of crap handed to him. And he’s been trying to swim out of that while everyone around him is piling on more. It’s bad enough when you enemies hate and try to hurt you, but considering the Democrats, it’s hard to say who is the enemy!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB says — “The President has had a huge plateful of crap handed to him”.
            Some people will eat anything.

    • Tony Silverence

      Well, IF everyone happened to actually READ paragraph 4 of the Declaration of Independence, WE would already have already gotten ALL of the CRIMINALS in the Senate and Congress out of Washington!

  • Warrior

    Uh, uh, uh, “al-ka-da” is dead and “gm is on the run” oh uh, “gm is dead” and “bin laden is on the run”, Oh forget it. Listen “folks”, I’ve been informed there are “major” threats lurking everywhere and I’ve order our embassies closed for 1 week. Ya see, now is a good as time as any to let the “busy people” take some “accrued” vacation before they lose it at end of fiscal year. I wonder if the “threat-ers” know that 1 week is the universal “cooling off” period for all people engaged in “terror”? Let’s see, we have been shipping trillions of dollars to the middle east for sooo many years now it is no wonder “uncle ben” has to print more greenies. Those dastardly sand dwellars just won’t reciprocate.

  • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

    If Congress will only pass the “Open Fuel Standard Act”, we can start down the road to oil independence, promote alternative fuels & clean the environment as well! It’s an easy step to retrofit cars to burn alcohol.

    In Brazil, they’ve been running cars on alcohol for over 20 years. The cars are American cars that are made to burn alcohol, but Obummer goes to Brazil & inks a deal to buy oil from his socialist buddy, Da Silva…..INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • VirginiaConservative

      Baloney
      Wrong again`!
      1. Alcohol is more corrosive than gasoline. Many cars will require new fule lines and gaskets, not so easy to do with the US car fleet.
      2. Burning Alcohol produces less energy than gasoline therefore, fuel efficiency suffers.
      3. Alcohol has a higher octane rating than gasoline and +can only be burned efficiently in high , i.e. 10:1+, compression engines
      4. It takes a barrel of oil based fules ot produce a barrel of alcohol, so at best it is a break even. Of course you could use coal to distill it but why?
      5. Unless we use sugar cane, which the US does not grow a lot of, we would be converting food to fuel which adversely affects anyone thta eats.

      • TheOriginalDaveH
        • VirginiaConservative

          Thanks :)

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      • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

        Theses things you mention are not a big deal, when compared to making air cleaner & breaking the Big Oil/OPEC stranglehold on us. How have they done it in Brazil for over 20 years with American mad cars?

        • VirginiaConservative

          1. Those are not standard cars. These cars are built to handle alcohol fuels. Try running straight ethanol or a gasoline ethanol mix over 10 -12% and watch your seals and hoses dissolve. 2. Brazil is a huge sugar producing country, the US is not. Our alcohol fuels would be made from corn. It is not smart to burn your food. 3. My other points, i.e fuel economy, transportation, are still valid. You can’t just wave them away by claiming they are not a big deal. 4. Where did you get the idea that burning ethanol was cleaner than gasoline. Ethanol requires a high compression engine which results in more oxides of nitrogen. Ethanol is still a hydrocarbon so the combustion bi-products are the same. Since ethanol release less energy, by volume, you have to burn more of it (see the fuel economy point) resulting in more, not less pollution.

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  • dan

    Let them pound sand…we’ve got the tech to be independent (Canada and the Balken Fields)of them. Australia has new strikes that are larger than ALL the Arabs and we have MAJOR oil off the coast of California . Buy from our friends and pump our own….let China play in the sandbox IF they want oil.
    We’re ONLY in the Middle East because of ROCKEFELLER OIL and ISRAEL
    (ie the Jewish vote in NY City)

    • ISHKABIBEL

      We got more natural gas than the whole world combined….is fracking safe? I’m not sure, but, it’s been around for awhile without any major disaster & is cleaner & more efficient than ever…It’s time to go to the isolationism that Ron & Rand Paul espouse…let’s save our money & blood & let the rest of the nations chart their own courses, keep our military ready if needed! Enough of billions to despots, oligarchs & tyrants, etc…After all these years of our interfering Israel & the Arabs hate each other more than ever…ENOUGH!!! If the nation in the Middle East was called, “JUDAH”, or “Zion” which it should be, no one in Congress would give a hoot,,,Truth is the real ISRAEL is America, the real “blessing to all nations” & “a great & might nation”

      This is coming from a Jew who lives in NYC & I agree with you!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        ISHKABIBEL says — “It’s time to go to the isolationism that Ron & Rand Paul espouse”.
        Please quit relying on the Lame Stream Media for your information, ISHKABIBEL.
        Ron Paul does not espouse isolationism:
        http://www.ronpaul.com/2007-07-23/exposing-the-true-isolationists/

        • ISHKABIBEL

          Of course, a lot of this is semantics, but When I mean isolationism of the Paul’s , it is exactly what he says here…isolate from the wars & the wasted billions upon the tyrants & dictators, the UN & the globalist agenda.

          I agree with all he said here!

        • ISHKABIBEL

          To be more correct, OriginalDaveH & dan: I agree with THE FOREIGN POLICIES espoused by Ron & Rand Paul!
          However you want to label it!

      • dan

        OriginalDave is right .Ish :RP isn’t for isolation…but he’s sure against subsidizing and controlling a foreign state . It’s too bad the Temple Mount isn’t on Manhattan because then we could ALL chill and let the Arabs be Kenites and Ishmaelites . I think there are more ‘Jews’ in LA or Florida than ‘Israel’ but I know NYC is home for most of the tribes,lol’s

  • Patriot_Dave

    Once again the haters group reconvenes… Critical thought rather than Emotionalism is always hard to come by when big piles of money are perceived to be involved… the deep dark secretes are not that ‘O’ is a Muslim, or a Marxist, but rather that we have strategic interests in this region and we want to keep them there vs having to move should we cut ties with the Saudis… Bitumen is NOT oil.. it is a low grade tar like substance (more like soft coal) that must be liquified with a higher grade product (gasoline) before it can be moved, by rail or by pipeline. Gasoline must be shipped to the tar sands ‘mining’ operation where it is mixed with the bitumen to make a slurry that then must be shipped to a refinery (that will accept it) where it is refined as a low grade stock for a range of low grade fuels. The US midwest refineries do not want a low grade stock especially if the gasoline used to liquify it is also of low quality. Up to 40% of this liquified bitumen is gasoline so it really does not make much sense to refine it here in the US…. that has lead a number of CRITICAL THINKERS to realize that this project could indeed be a boondoggle, definitely rife with the possibility to scam the investors, a logistical nightmare shipping the gasoline to the tar sands pits, meeting all environmental requirements, and then to actually build and MAINTAIN a pipeline that can handle this ‘product'(it is very corrosive to pipelines). The environmental concerns are extremely valid as the mining operation releases vasts amounts of methane, a know greenhouse gas, in the subarctic where it will have the greatest greenhouse effect. The pipelines must cross the most sensitive aquifers in the US where not only farmers are concerned, but environmentalists are prepared to make a stand! The number of pipeline spills we have seen lately is not trivial and since this stuff is not legally ‘oil’ it will be a challenge to keep the lawyers out of the picture when spills DO OCCUR. The facts concerning the pipeline, the ‘product’, the total costs and how the markets will respond are difficult to sort out in this rhetoric charged fiasko primarily because a lot of already wealthy Politicians (Boehner et al) have invested heavily in the tar sands projects and will make millions more if the pipeline goes through. The TRUTH is out there, but are YOU willing to actually LOOK for it???

    • BALONEY TONEY MAHONEY

      I got one thing to say: OPEN FUEL STANDARD ACT !

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Yep, the truth is out there:
      http://www.climatedepot.com/
      It’s just not something the Propaganda Media likes to reveal.

      Patriot says — ” a lot of already wealthy Politicians (Boehner et al) have invested heavily in the tar sands projects and will make millions more if the pipeline goes through”.
      Can’t have that, can we?
      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/03/al-gore-conflict-of-interests

      The truth is that Crony Capitalism grips both the Republican and Democrat Leaders, but the zealots are too busy chanting for their Team to figure that out:
      http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

      • Patriot_Dave

        The climatedepot??? Really!!!??? Not so much on delivering ALL of the facts…but just enough to sway the right wingers into thinking that it is!!! (Case in point…when it is summer in the northern latitudes it is WINTER in the southern latitudes…hence Antarctic Ice will form!!… One BS point debunked…) However, You are very correct about Crony Capitalism… except when a right winger is the POTUS!!! then it’s “business as usual, don’t rock the boat, ride the gravy train, do you know who butters your bread?” As far as Boehner is concerned he is nothing but David and Charles Koch’s hand puppet…. Kinda like ‘O’ is Warren Buffets hand puppet…. No difference…. Tar sands are a poor choice for energy independence….PERIOD….. WE must move towards freeing ourselves from fossil fuels……anything we do to up the ante for more fossil fuel discovery, drilling, mining, transporting is just MORE OF THE SAME regardless of which side is promoting it!!!… We must put away all of the bickering and get to work freeing ourselves from this DEPENDENCE on carbon based fuels… Something that even a right winger can understand and feel great about!!!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The Patriot_Dave??? Really!!!??? Not so much on delivering ALL of the facts…but just enough to sway the ignorant left wingers into thinking that he is!!!
          Typical Liberal Progressive manipulative techniques — ad hominem attacks in lieu of Facts.

          Patriot_Dave says — “Case in point…when it is summer in the northern latitudes it is WINTER in the southern latitudes…hence Antarctic Ice will form!!… One BS point debunked”.
          Uhh, what exactly are you debunking, Dave? Can you share with the readers?

          Patriot_Dave says — “WE must move towards freeing ourselves from fossil fuels”.
          Who’s “WE”, kimosabe? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? I am quite comfortable with Fossil Fuels. If you want to spend your money on Alternative Energies, then feel Free, but keep your grubby hands out of MY pockets.

          • Patriot_Dave

            Attacks?!?… Are you on the defensive? I have no desire to get into your pockets…but you seem fine trashing the planet so you can play….

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Not at all. But it is true that the dirtiest environments are in those countries with the Biggest Governments. So it makes me wonder about the intelligence of anybody who would champion Bigger Government.

    • Vis Fac

      Dave you are beginning to appear to be a global warming alarmist. It appears you drank the Kool Aid too. Methane is natural gas there is far more methane produced in congress than occurs naturally (better close all the landfills and dairies) yet you worry about trivial amounts that will eventually seep and escape into the atmosphere anyway. Advancement in refining techniques make it easier to remove sulphides from crude which are useful in other applications.

      OPEC suffers oil spills and pipeline problems too you never hear this because media is controlled by government both Arab and The US. We hear only about things that have a negative impact on OUR oil industry. Go figure!
      Critical Thinkers? Since when do liberals think? The only thing liberals think about is how to extract money from others how to disarm the US citizenry and how to impede progress. I suppose you could call it critical thinking for after these actions are carried out our fuel supply will be in “critical” shortage. I don’t suppose you could imagine a containment apparatus being put in place in those “marshlands” maybe like technology the Navy uses in its nuclear submarine fleet redundant hull technology. Naw never work right?

      What is “legal oil”? Is that like legal censorship or legal pharmaceuticals or legal misrepresentation of fact? The last I checked oil is oil no matter the source legality is never an issue unless it comes from liberal tenet. Is that it Liberal endorsement? Yeah I thought so.

      Since when are you an insider to what oil refineries will purchase and how do you know they only want certain types? Having provided equipment for the oil industry and knowing the regulations set by environmentalists

      Now since you brought up “Boehner et al” why not Kerry ODUMBO ETAL (correct spelling) Interest in Middle east oil Don’t let facts get in the way of lucid argument. Liberals want CONTROL plain and simple that way to control is through money I need not say more.

      • Patriot_Dave

        We don’t need any additional sources of methane release into the atmosphere and No I am not a climate change alarmist…I’m a realist…something that the ultra far right wing fringers refuse to accept as a reality!! Since when do LIBERALS think??? You are kidding right??? You would not be here if it were not for the free thinking liberal minded creativity that designs and builds all of the stuff you love!!… We all know how intrinsically lackluster the ultra right mentality is…..FAUX NEWS has Proven that….Glen Beck, Alex Jones and Rush Limbaugh dish out all of the tidbits of knowledge that the ultra right wing fringers need to know….Just ask the MILLIONS of them!! Is it possible that you have more than just two brain cells still kicking? Tar sands are not legally oil…it is bitumen (the precursor to coal)… Are you just plain daft or just being coy or should i say Koi….

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          There is nothing “real” about the Man-made Global Warming hype. It is simply another of the many excuses Leaders use to Grow their Power over the rest of us.
          http://www.amazon.com/Red-Hot-Lies-Alarmists-Misinformed/dp/143321508X

          • Patriot_Dave

            And the sellers of fossil fuels don’t want to control us?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Some likely do. But they would be Powerless without the coercive Force of Government to back them up. And you Liberal Progressives fall right into their trap by providing that Big Government.

          • Patriot_Dave

            I don’t want BIG Government any more than YOU do…. Careful where tread there DaveH8…. I may be Progressive… I may be Liberal but I’m not in favor of MORE OF SAME JUST BECAUSE….. We nned to evolve our government or replace it…. I just want it FUNCTIONAL without all of BS!!! And that means BS from the far fringers on BOTH side of the aisle… Liberals/Progresives do NOT have a monopoly on that!!! And with the latest fallout from the TEAPUBs I say that nicely…

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Patriot_Dave says — “Careful where tread there DaveH8″.
            Or what? You’re going to call me even more names?

            Patriot_Dave says — “I don’t want BIG Government any more than YOU do”.
            Yes, I gathered that, Patriot_Dave. You want Freedom, as long as it’s your way.

          • Dave

            “You want freedom, as long as its your way”

            Sounds exactly the DaveH8

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            And your evidence for that un-grounded slander is where, Creepy Liberal Progressive?

        • VirginiaConservative

          Patriot (?)
          Most of your post is not worth reposnding to however, I do love to find little tidbits of stupidity to refute.
          You wrote, “… it is bitumen (the precursor to coal)”
          Were you sleeping in general science class in grade school?
          Bitumen is a black, oily, viscous material that is a naturally-occurring organic byproduct of decomposed organic materials. Also known as asphalt or tar (think Le Brea Tar Pits)
          Bitumen is a precursor to oil. Peat is a precursor to coal.
          Both hightly useful products but not interchangeable.
          As to Climate Change, you are aware that there has been no temperature increase in over 15 years and that record low temps have been recorded around the world this summer? AGW, Climate Change, Climate Chaos is all a lie designed to separate us from our money and cede control to the self described intelligent elite.

          • Patriot_Dave

            I’m glad you can read… The wiki has lots of stuff in it now doesn’t it…

            Bituminous coal or black coal is a relatively soft coal containing a tarlike substance called bitumen. It is of higher quality than lignite coal but of poorer quality than anthracite. Formation is usually the result of high pressure being exerted on lignite. Its coloration can be black or sometimes dark brown; often there are well-defined bands of bright and dull material within the seams. These distinctive sequences, which are classified according to either “dull, bright-banded” or “bright, dull-banded”, is how bituminous coals are strati-graphically identified.
            Bituminous coal is an organic sedimentary rock formed by diagenetic and sub metamorphic compression of peat bog material.

            So…Jr Geologist… had the Alberta Tar sands deposits been covered in massive layers of sediment, heated, and compressed for a few millenia the ‘bitumen’ would have formed coal with a layer of natural gas or perhaps petroleum above it….

          • VirginiaConservative

            STUPID. There are three main types of COAL.
            Lignite or brown coal, very soft about 50% water
            BITUMINOUS or soft Coal and Anthracite or Hard coal. Bituminous coal may contain Bitumen as they are both produced by similar, but different, process and materials. It is NOT the same as the bitumen in Canada you ignorant jerk. The Bitumen in Canada has also been called oil sands or tar, think LeBrea Tar Pits. Bitumen is an oil precursor just as peat is a precursor to coal.
            Go read a book for God’s sake before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
            Wiki?? Never use it. Inaccurate at best. I got my knowledge the honest way, by reading and paying attention in school. I was also a substitute teacher in Middle School Science when I was between jobs. I am not sure if it was you or some other fool that claimed gasoline was used as a solvent to make bitumen flow through the pipelines. WRONG again. Natural Gas Condensates are sometimes used to dissolve the Bitumen to make it flow easier. There are too many lies and false assumptions in these posts to refute. Subject: Re: New comment posted on Obama: An Obedient Saudi Servant To The End

    • dan

      interesting…I’m always willing to look at ‘facts’ and different perspectives.
      Out of all oft his…HOW is methane a ‘known’ global warming gas…I thought it gobbled up o-zone or was that florine from chloroflorocarbin and carbon dioxide was the ‘known’ global warmist cause of the day..
      silly that all of the other planet were inconveniently warming but now aren’t ….how about the pools of frozen methane in the ocean depths ?
      Ah, the mind doth boggle with the fragility of our existence.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        No, Methane is a Greenhouse Gas, as is Carbon Dioxide, but both are given off by trees, so I guess where the Greens want to take us next will be deforestation.
        Note that the most prevalent Greenhouse Gas is water vapor. Since the oceans give off more water vapor as the oceans warm, we would expect to see an ever-increasing warming occurring until the Earth was uninhabitable whether we had men burning fossil fuels or not. Clearly that has not been the case. Obviously, there are counteracting events taking place which neutralize any such “Global Warming”.
        Read some of the books written by Christopher Horner to see what’s really going on.
        Here is a video that talks about the Progressive alarmism:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtevF4B4RtQ

        • Patriot_Dave

          Horner is a hack lawyer working out of DC!!… He has been debunked by the science community for several years now but his sensationalist books are still making the rounds in the inbred communities….

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Because you say so, Patriot_Dave?
            You’ve been debunked, Dave, on this board. You can rant, and gnash your teeth, and issue foul epithets all you want, but the kind of readers who read Personal Liberty can see right through your Liberal Progressive nonsense.

  • FreedomFighter

    “It also seems that Obama will remain an obedient Saudi servant to the bitter end. We’ll have to see whether it is just to the end of his Presidency or if it’s until the end of America.”

    I wonder if when Obama goes to Russia and bows to Putin, will Putin kick him in the teeth as usual or give him asylum in Russia like or most recent traitor.

    “Lawyers, Guns and Money”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPlMmwOq7U8

    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Who is “or most recent traitor”, FF?

    • Patriot_Dave

      I’m guessing you missed the fact that previous 4 Presidents all kissed the same ring????… THis is not NEW… It is NOT the fault of ‘O’ or even ‘W’…it goes back to ‘W’s daddy…(perhaps even further!!!) Remember him… GHW Bush… Yeah the CIA mole for decades in the Caribbean, OIL for guns, gun for cocaine, ton’s of money and weapons for destabilizing the mideast…. then he becaime the CIA’s top gun… after that the POTUS… don’t you smell a rat???… or is the odor of guns, cocaine and freshly printed money making your head spin????

      • VirginiaConservative

        Patriot_Dave <——- Paid troll
        This goes back to 1938 and Roosevelt. It was put on steroids by that peanut farming idiot, Carter. Go educate yourself about The Carter Doctrine.

        • Patriot_Dave

          I did not say that Carter was not involved…. and BTW… NOT A PAID TROLL…. Bite ME!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Well the “Paid” part might not be true.

          • Patriot_Dave

            Personal Liberty Digest….. What part of Personal or Liberty do you not understand DAVEH?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re joking, right?

          • VirginiaConservative

            OOOOH nasty little paid troll. Now go ask your mom for a cookie before bed time.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on Obama: An Obedient Saudi Servant To The End

      • John Cherish

        It goes back to LBJ, he was a democrat he liked blacks so much he wanted to help keep them on the “plantation” by giving them money for nothing a free ride, making them dependent on the real producers in this country with his “Great society program”. He also bankrupted the social security trust fund to finance his Vietnam war. Its in the history books but the liberals will ban that history soon and make him out to be a great man. He despised blacks and always spoke down to them treating them like incompetent children.

        • Ron Brueske

          LBJ was a congressman in 1956 when he killed a civil rights bill in Congress. I do not care what his stated reasons were, nor that people tried to defend him later. He was a gutless coward about the issue, his only thoughts were playing politics and his political future.

        • Patriot_Dave

          LBJ was a CORPORTIST!!! Plain and simple… The king of liars for his time!!… He and his wife made a killing off the Viet Nam war… Howard Hughes was his buddy….GHW Bush handled the black bag ‘enforcement’ for him.. Gordon G Liddy was his back door man… E Howard Hunt was his hired trigger man…. it goes on and on and on!!!!

  • manuel

    obama will never allow the US to become independent of any arab oil! He luvs ragheads and will not do one thing to disrupt their kingdoms. Soon Egypt will be firmly back in the hands of the islamists and all will right with the world.

    • Vis Fac

      Family ties run deep as does religious tenet
      Semper-Fi

  • red neck

    Well….. I do not believe that for one minute that this new “threat” is real…
    This is nothing but a ploy to distract the American sheeple from king obama’s scandals…. obama has already proven that he is an amateur at world politics except for bowing and apologizing for America… Of course the media ( state ran ) is fully behind this imposter president….

  • Dave

    Hmmm… Mr Meyers… are we getting the oil coming from Canada? No… Are we assuming the environmental risks that go along with its transport.? Yes…
    Which pipelines are being proposed from the Saudis that are inside the United States? None.
    Sorry if your corp whoredom gets interfered with by people who are concerned because they actually live where the pipeline goes… unlike yourself. You wrap it all in your racism that you try and exploit for your ideological gain. What a sad little man you are.
    Where were you when Ronald Reagan jumped back into bed with the middle east oil barons after carter said we need to cut the cord? Were you busy with the Reagan rewrite? Or how about Bush 2 being completely funded in business by Saudi interests? What nothing?
    Got any more slight of can nonsense to favor us with?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Who said anything about assuming the risks? Of course, the Pipeline Companies would be responsible for any spills unless Big Government steps in and gives them special protections.
      http://reason.org/news/show/environmental-problems-think-govern

      • Dave

        Yeah, like Haliburton assumed responsibility for the Deep Water Horizon disaster right Dave?
        Mr Meyers tries and fails to connect Obama being a muslim (he is not) with why he somehow is more Saudi than Canadian friendly in his mind.
        Its a sad and angry article written by a sad and angry little man and you covering up his complete conjecture makes you a party to the BS.

        • Duane Rosekrans

          Why the hell are on this site you. You are way off base. Has the Alaskan pipeline caused global warming? I think not. Go hobnob with your liberal obummer loving buddies on msnbc.

          • Dave

            I am here because I love you… I love Mr Myers and his angry little old man routine.
            You all are the best little corporate followers money can buy.

          • John Myers

            Dave,
            You got the spelling right! It’s a a start.
            As Rick says in Casablanca, “This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship.”
            Sincerely,
            John Myers

          • Dave

            Thanks John, because I live for extremist’s approval as you know. Keep writing so liberals like myself have more to point to as conservatives lose more and more national elections due to racism such as yours and unsubstantiated conjecture you deal in.

          • John Myers

            Dave,
            If you are ever in Calgary, Canada maybe we can catch a baseball game and I will buy you a beer and a hotdog. We can have an open political discussion. If you don’t like that idea you might be able to catch the end of Ramadan in Saudi Arabia.
            Sincerely, and over and out,
            John

          • Dave

            I’d like an open dialog… I am not sure about the whole Ramadan thing though… I am not a big believer in fairy tales.
            If you are in AZ, I’ll introduce you to Sherriff Joe Arpio and we can tour the tent city… Maybe he can waste some more of our money and get Steven Segal back here to train our crack police force like he did eariler in the year to show you while you are here.
            Did I mention its the 25th anniversary of Tent City? We Arizonians are pretty proud of the fact we spend more on prisons than schools. Its a conservative Mecca to use a Muslim term if than makes you more comfortable.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Wow, you have a home in Arizona and also Nebraska where the pipeline is going?
            You must work for the Government.

          • Dave

            No DaveH, do try and keep up…
            I have just done the research. I live in AZ, VA and DE and No, I am a straight capitalist working in international technology.
            But you are used to being wrong so its no big deal for you.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Now you work in international technology? Before it was International Sales. Would you make up your mind?
            And you said earlier — “Sorry if your corp whoredom gets interfered with by people who are concerned because they actually live where the pipeline goes… unlike yourself”, which implies that you live on the pipeline route, Dave.
            Do you ever do any work in “international technology” or “International Sales” (whatever you really do), Dave?
            You’ve been on here pestering us for several hours now. It doesn’t sound to me like you’re much of a “straight capitalist”. It sounds more like you’re being paid to pester us.

          • Dave

            Really DaveH? Is that why I use the term “they”? Not “I”
            Hey John,
            DaveH needs an english lesson… since you* are the expert, can you help ole DaveH.
            Hey DaveH, just so I make it clear for you, the “you” with the star next to it is not “you”. Do you understand? BTW that last “you” is you. Get it?
            This could be a whole new industry for Mr Meyers… Gold futures and helping DaveH with the English language.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Well, I know your grammar is poor, Dave, so I just assumed you were including yourself in the “they”.
            So, if you don’t live where the Pipeline is going, who are you to accuse John Myers of butting into other peoples’ business, Dave?

          • Dave

            Well you make many ASSumptions.. so it should be expected from you.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I expected that trite comeback from you, Dave. You’re kind of a one trick pony aren’t you?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What is a “straight capitalist”? Are you homophobic, Dave? Surely you don’t mean Market Capitalist, because you are obviously either a Crony Capitalist or no Capitalist at all.
            My guess is Government worker, perhaps even shill.

          • Dave

            More conjecture, lies from DaveH? do you have a new record? This one is wore out.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Worn out, Dave. Get it straight.

          • John Myers

            Dave,
            A straight capitalist? “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
            Sincerely,
            John

          • WTS/JAY

            Lol!!!

          • Dave

            I always knew conservatives had sexual issues and your taking “straight” out of context to make it your own proves it. I have no issues with you being gay…I am a liberal you know…. If you need a date, there is another guy here that is a closeted homosexual. His name is DaveH. Since he isn’t an American either and both of you are trying to destroy this country from a foriegn land, you both will have much to discuss over some ice fishing.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Did you get up on the wrong side of your crib today, Dave?

          • Dave

            As I said DaveH, i have no issue with you and John being gay in Calgary together. Be happy… Maybe then you won’t be so angry all the time. John just might be your soulmate

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            A goat would be preferable to you, Dave.

          • Dave

            Hey, if goats are your thing( its pretty sick if you ask me) then do what you need to do. I will report you to whatever country you live in’s animal cruelty group. Thats for reading that mises crap alone to that poor goat.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Your reading comprehension is weak, Dave. Try again.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So Dave, how is it that, being a “straight capitalist”, you have so much time to pester us?

          • Dave

            I have a team I work with… Now you…. How does a Free Market capitalist have so much time to bore people with his institute that has zero accreditation? You get paid by the link?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I’m retired. Duh.
            So you admit you work with a Team? Honesty at last.

            Dave says — “with his institute that has zero accreditation?”.
            Actually, Dave, they are highly accredited. You would know that if you ever actually looked at the site.

          • Dave

            So you and John will have plenty of time together… See two old bitter fools waiting to die. A match made in conservative heaven

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Another “compassionate” Liberal Progressive outs himself.
            I know, if I want you to be nicer to me I need to give you other peoples’ money.

          • John Myers

            Dave,
            I was referring to your use of the word “capitalist”. Once again you bring gay into the conversation.
            John Myers

          • Dave

            o REALLLLY? LOL. Ok John. Whatever you say. Look I do not care if you are a homosexual. Maybe once you are finally honest with yourself, you can be happy and get that sour puss off your face. Think of how romantic it could be for you and DaveH… He could sit in his half open robe with his fat pendulous belly hanging out as he reads all about how 1800’s era economics are some how relevant today.
            I doubt you two could make it past the first page. To DaveH, that mises crap is porn.
            I hope you guys can make it. Invite me to the wedding ok guys? I know what to get you… I hear W.A.R has a commemorative dinner plate with his face on it. It has your name on it.

          • WTS/JAY

            Dave, what the hell are u doing here? The enemy is in the White-House. Go sic em boy!!! Grrrrrrrrrr….

          • Nadzieja Batki

            But you are the best little corporate follower that money can buy except that your corporations bow down to O or should I say that they bow to O with the proverbial caps in hand for government favors.

          • Dave

            Really? Are you sure its not the other way around John? Corporations have the money… They buy the policy. But I am sure if Rand Paul or Ted Cruz get in the WH, everything will be fine. In no way Paul (beholden to coal interests) Cruz (beholden to oil/gas and the big banks) will ever be swayed by money. They are true Americans right? Not like Obama, Bush 2, Clinton, Bush 1, Reagan… right?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Do your handlers see all your thumbs down, Dave?
            They must not, or surely they’d quit paying you.
            Come to think of it, it is taxpayer money, so they probably don’t care that you are wasting it.

          • Dave

            I know DaveH… I really need to be more like you and be an unwitting shill for big business and agree with every nonsensical conspiracy theory John, Bob, WAR, Ben and the rest of the insane clown posse can concoct.
            Oh, I guess it would help also if I bought into BS economic theory put forth by an “institute” that is stuck in the 1800’s and has no accreditation anywhere.
            Then maybe I could be liked by the numbskull conservatives here. I promise, I will loose IQ points, rational, reality based thinking and get a tin foil hat so I can be more like you. I will also use the Gov for my own benefit while badmouth others like me… then I will be transformed into DaveH and then maybe the conservatives here will like me.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Lose IQ points? I doubt you can afford to lose many more, Dave.

          • WTS/JAY

            Surely you can find better things to do with your 136 IQ besides throwing temper-tantrums? Whaaaaaaa….mommy….boo hoo hoo goo…LOL!

        • John Myers

          Dear Dave,
          When you want to be critical of another try spelling their name correctly. Hint: the proper spelling is at the top and it’s the spelling everyone else uses except for you and KG. Hmm?
          Sincerely,
          John Myers

          • Dave

            When one doesn’t have a leg to stand on… go for spelling, punctuation etc…
            That is the MO of people like you who have nothing factual to offer, just BS and conjecture.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What a colossal hypocrite:
            http://personalliberty.com/2013/08/07/obama-an-obedient-saudi-servant-to-the-end/#comment-991901400
            But what else would we expect from a Liberal Progressive?

          • WTS/JAY

            And when one reads the truth…compose a lengthy ad- hominem. What a child you are!

          • JeffH

            Gotta luv it when a complete progressive idiot whines and shows his hypocrisy for everyone else to see.

            Ignoramus Dave47D says “When one doesn’t have a leg to stand on… go for spelling, punctuation etc…
            That is the MO of people like you who have nothing factual to offer, just BS and conjecture.”

            Now what was it that ignoramus Dave47D said earlier?

            I quote:
            Dave> WTS/JAY•an hour ago−
            Jay, your conservative “I have perfect spelling and diction” BS is slipping…
            Its “Your” not “You’re”

            You got your “MO’s” a bit backwards ignoramus there H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T Dave47D…open mouth-insert foot!

          • WTS/JAY

            And he claims an IQ of 135?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Ad hominem attack, after ad hominem attack. Do you ever have anything factual to say, Dave?
          And did I say anything about “assuming responsibility”?
          The proper procedure would have been to seek compensation from them in court.
          Also, I’m guessing that you didn’t even read the article I linked to. Are you afraid you might become a less ignorant Liberal Progressive, Dave?

          • Dave

            The question is…. Do you have anything factual to say that has to do with this century? So far not so much…
            Is this the part where you call me a socialist DaveH.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            ad hominem.

          • Dave

            Yes, you do that in many instances. Al one has to do with you is disagree with you unaccredited institute’s theories. Then it is that new movie…
            STAR DRECK…. The Wrath of DaveH.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            “with you unaccredited institute’s theories”?
            Is that ebonics, Dave?
            You should know all about Star Trek, Dave, since the Enterprise can reach warp speed inside the vast space between your ears.

          • WTS/JAY

            LOL!!! (-:

        • Don 2

          The only really angry little man on this site is clearly Hoplophobe Dave, but then when aren’t liberals angry? By the way Hoplophobe Dave, your buddy Hussein Obama, is a Muslim.

          • Dave

            LOL… Ok…. Sure thing…LOL

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Dave’s looking at his IQ report again.

          • Dave

            135 Davie-Boy… What is your score MENSA boy?
            But we have another ad hominem from DaveH… how predictable.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I didn’t ask your score, Dave, as you have no credibility so it wouldn’t matter what you claimed.
            But if you did indeed have a 135 IQ, you sure don’t display it in your comments. What went wrong?

          • John Myers

            Dear Original DaveH,
            This may shine some light on Dave.
            “People who boast about their IQ are losers.”
            — Stephen Hawking

          • Dave

            Your boyfriend DaveH asked John… You conservatives don’t like Hawking anyways… he uses science and logic… not partisan hysteria.

          • John Myers

            My boyfriend Dave?
            Back to “your” use of homosexual refercences again? That’s okay Dave; “don’t ask, don’t tell.”
            Sincerely,
            John Myers

    • John Myers

      Dear Dave,
      You pretend that Saudi crude is shipped without transportation risks. You must not have heard of the Exxon Valdez.
      Sincerely,
      John Myers

      • Dave

        Nice ASSumptions you and for fellow conservatives make… Let me ask you… Would you run out and live near a nuclear plant?, if you knew a major oil pipeline is going underneath your property or near your home and a leak could ruin your drinking water? How would you feel about that? Warm and fuzzy?
        I pretend nothing… Risks are part of the deal, but it doesn’t mean we rush to approve something because its politically expedient. Maybe conservatives do that sort of things but thinking people take the time to mitigate the risks

        • Al Chemist

          At the present time, crude is being shipped from Canada by rail. I would much rather live near a buried pipeline than live that same distance from a rail line that carried crude. Recall the rail disaster (involving crude) that happened a few weeks ago?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Dave says — “if you knew a major oil pipeline is going underneath your property or near your home and a leak could ruin your drinking water? How would you feel about that? Warm and fuzzy?”.
          Shouldn’t that be up to the people who actually live there, Dave? Do you feel “Warm and fuzzy” butting into other peoples’ choices, Dave?

          • Dave

            Yeah DaveH, and unless you can show otherwise… All people that are in the construction zone are not happy about a pipeline that could potentially screw up their drinking water. Why do you think the GOP dominated NB legislature vote no on Keystone in 2011?
            Do you have a mises link that shows people happy about a pipeline going through their back yard? I doubt it… but corporatists like you put money over people always.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There’s no “potential” about this, Dave — You are screwing up other peoples’ lives every day. And you are polluting our board. Are you proud of yourself?

            Dave says — “Do you have a mises link that shows people happy about a pipeline going through their back yard?”.
            No link necessary, Dave. If it’s going through their back yards, it is because they approved of it. Or maybe they just got outvoted, which you Liberal Progressives think is Peachy Keen, so live with it.

        • WTS/JAY

          Flashy: Would you run out and live near a nuclear plant?, if you knew a major oil pipeline is going underneath your property or near your home and a leak could ruin your drinking water?

          Your questions are nonsensical, IQ 135. Who in their right mind, while being aware of a potential hazard-zone, would choose to build their house on that zone? Is that what you did, IQ 135?

      • Patriot_Dave

        Seriously John???…The Exxon Valdez oil spill occurred in Prince William Sound, Alaska, on March 24, 1989, when Exxon Valdez, an oil tanker bound for Long Beach, California, struck Prince William Sound’s Bligh Reef at 00:04 local time and spilled 260,000 to 750,000 barrels (41,000 to 119,000 m3) of crude oil over the next few days. It is considered to be one of the most devastating human-caused environmental disasters.[4] The Valdez spill was the largest ever in US waters until the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill, in terms of volume released.

    • Al Chemist

      At the present time, there is a lot of crude coming in from Canada by rail. It WILL continue to be done by rail if no pipeline is available. Shipment of crude by rail, or by tanker for that matter, results in three times the number of spills compared to shipment of crude by pipeline. Shipping by rail is also about three times more expensive than by pipeline.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Dave says — “Sorry if your corp whoredom gets interfered with by people who are concerned because they actually live where the pipeline goes”.
      Really Dave, it’s going across your property?

      Dave says — “Where were you when Ronald Reagan jumped back into bed with the middle east oil barons after carter said we need to cut the cord?”.
      Why do you ask, Dave? And what does that have to do with the current issue?
      You mean the Jimmy Carter, Dave, who created the Department of Energy which was created to wean us from Foreign Oil and now consumes $27 Billion dollars a year, while we use more foreign oil than ever before?
      http://drive55.org/content/view/100/1/

      Here’s the reality of all those Government agencies:
      http://mises.org/daily/5930/RegulatoryIndustrial-Complex

  • Mr T

    If Brock O’Commie is such an agent of the environment, why did he give one billion dollars to Brazil to drill for oil off their coast? Doesn’t he believe that is environmentally wrong? The truth is he doesn’t give a rat’s behind about the environment. It’s just a tool to weaken the US economy, which is what he really wants. He can’t even be considered a hypocrite, just an evil lying Marxist. POS!

    • Patriot_Dave

      I really wish some of you would have gone after W the way you go after O…. I’m not saying O doesn’t serve it..but I think you are being awfully one sided…. Left vs Right when it should be freedom vs tyranny….

      • WTS/JAY

        Awfully one sided? Obama is in office, not Bush. And how do you know (we…?) didn’t go after Bush when Bush was in office? And, since Obama is no different from Bush, why are not some of you going after Obama like you went after Bush? I really wish some of (you) would!!!

        • Patriot_Dave

          Who says we are NOT??? WE are not being infantile about it… like the 6th grade bullies that troll in this room….

          • WTS/JAY

            Your comments, says you are not!!! The very fact that you keep resurrecting Bush betrays your claim that you are!!! Your snow-job isn’t working, Dave!

          • Dave

            Jay, your conservative “I have perfect spelling and diction” BS is slipping…
            Its “Your” not “You’re”.
            John M, could you step in and help Jay?

          • WTS/JAY

            What are you talking about, Dave? Do your eyes like your brain, not function?

          • JeffH

            “WE are not being infantile”…Infantile?

            manbearpig?

            Hypocrit! Nuff said!

      • Quester55

        You Commie Scum are all Alike, You down the Retired people with hate & Praise those that STEAL your MONEY, From under your very Big Noses!!

  • Patriot_Dave

    E gads!!! Did someone drop an IDIOT bomb in here…. Most of you redneck, anti-science twerps need to go back to your rocks and hide because whether you know it or not (I’m guessing not) you are on the wrong side of history this time…. Science and SCIENTISTS are not YOUR enemy… your misguided belief in this far right wing ‘anti-science, anti-reason, anti critical thinking’ ideology IS!! Are you afraid that an ‘education’ will ruin your ‘conservative’ ideals or what???… You are all scared to death that even a tiny bit of FACTs will ruin your inconvenient TRUTHs All you seem to be able to do is HATE, put intellectuals down and get all pumped up about this BS that you have replaced good ole common sense and reason with… You hate this, that and everyone around it just because you can…. None of you seem to care one iota about the future… it’s all about ‘MY MONEY’… ‘MY RIGHTS’… ‘MY this and that’ Were you all school yard bullies?, Daddy didn’t love you (enough)?, not someone mommy would show off?… What is it with all this ‘Liberal’ bashing anyway? You seem to believe that YOU are the only ones on the planet that have any RIGHTS… You are wrong so many time over that I can’t imagine how any of you even get out of bed in the morning and brave a new day….

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      What “Science”, Patriot_Dave?
      All I see is one long boring string of adolescent manipulative ad hominem attacks.
      Chris Horner on the “Science” of Global Warming:
      http://www.mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=348

      • Patriot_Dave

        Debunked in 2010 and again 2011…. Yes, there were some mistakes in 2003….Those involved were investigated and since 2010 and again 2011 these issues were resolved.. the evidence is not underwhelming as you might suggest but very real and worthy of discussion… Ton’s of corporate money has flowed into the climate denial arena making this subject extremely difficult to sort through but none of the facts support the denials….

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Because you say so, Patriot_Dave?
          What is the most prevalent Greenhouse Gas, Dave?

          • Patriot_Dave

            There are several, water the most prevalent but the easiest to deal with as it only takes months to years to balance out, CO2 is next however, it takes a bit to get it going but lasts a long time, Methane is a serious green house gas but it drops out after a few decades vs CO2 which takes hundreds of years to work it’s way out… Then there is soot…good ole carbon black, mostly an issue in the polar regions where it tends to speed up the melting of snow and ice. Unburned hydrocarbons minor but still a contributor… You know the stuff left over from partial combustion for FOSSIL FUELS…. I’m sure there are more…..

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What a load, Patriot_Dave.
            That sounds suspiciously like Flashman double-speak.

          • WTS/JAY

            Sometimes, and on a good day, even triple-speak.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So Dave,
            Why is it that the heating doesn’t put more water vapor in the air, which then traps more heat, which then puts more water vapor in the air, which then traps more heat………..?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Patriot_Dave,
            What proportion of Greenhouse Gases are produced by man?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Patriot assures: “I’m sure there are more.”

            And you right, PD. The “scientific” research report, which was published in May last year in Current Biology, suggests that “dinosaurs made a significant contribution to the greenhouse effect back then” and that they may have vanished thanks to their own gassiness.

            Study was conducted in the Liverpool John Moores
            University in England estimated that “about 570 MILLION TONS of methane came from dinosaurs” and thus thru farts and burps have contributed to the global warming and their own extermination.

            By another words NONE of Dinosaurs would pass the emission test/ smell test.

            So, PD, the conclusion is: do NOT fart and do NOT burp.

          • WTS/JAY

            The one coming out of his mouth?

        • WTS/JAY

          Flashy: Yes, there were some mistakes in 2003….

          Mistakes? Don’t you mean, fraud?

          • Patriot_Dave

            No fraud… only the claim of fraud!!!

          • WTS/JAY

            The evidence proves otherwise, Dave.

          • Patriot_Dave

            What EVIDENCE????

          • WTS/JAY

            What SCIENCE????

      • WTS/JAY

        Patriot Dave sounds like a racist-psychopath. Where do all these kool-aid drinkers come from? Unreal!

        • Quester55

          You Asked; Where do all these kool-aid drinkers come from?
          Answer: from Those Foolish Men that Say There is NO GOD!
          And One day when it’s too late, they’ll change their Minds. Perhaps after Taking the MARK Under their skin, As a Sign of Citizenship to this (SOON TO BE) communist nation!!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” (Psalm 14:1; Psalm 53:1)

            “He who walks in his uprightness fears the Lord, but he, who is perverse in his ways despises Him.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 14:2)

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          They do all sound alike, don’t they? Maybe they’re from the same boiler room. I did read somewhere that there’s software now which can assign different personas and Internet IP addresses to the same commenter so that somebody like Flashman can more easily assume multiple personalities.

          • WTS/JAY

            I’m beginning to think that you may not be paranoid, after all. They do indeed, all sound alike!

        • Patriot_Dave

          Jay… Welcome back manbearpig… You drop in to spread BS some more…????.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You can type all that with your binky in your mouth?

          • WTS/JAY

            You needn’t fear any competition from me in the BS department, Dave, as you clearly have a monopoly on the BS. But what’s with your racist-rethoric; is that like a spoonful of sugar to make your BS taste better?

          • Patriot_Dave

            Wasted no time pulling out the gloves I see…. Hmmmm racist-rhetoric…. that’s new….

          • JeffH

            manbearpig?

            Hmmmm, Dave or 666 immediately comes to mind…what name will tomorrow bring?

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,

            Not sure where you are going with the “Dave or 666 immediately comes to mind”, but if I have something to say to you it will be under the name that I have always used.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,

            Not sure where you are going with the “Dave or 666 immediately comes to mind”, but if I have something to say to you it will be under the name that I have always used.

          • JeffH

            I appreciate and believe that clarification.

      • WTS/JAY

        Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’?

        If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka CRU) and released 61 megabytes of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip:Watts Up With That)

        When you read some of those files – including 1079 emails and 72 documents – you realise just why the boffins at CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”. These alleged emails – supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory – suggest:

        Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more…
        http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

        ‘Climate-Gate’ Scandal Should Be Wake-Up Call For Press, Politicians…
        http://heartland.org/policy-documents/climate-gate-scandal-should-be-wake-call-press-politicians

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          No amount of exposure is enough to stop people like Patriot_Dave from spreading their Propaganda.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, a rebel without a clue!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Propagandists do NOT have weekends, nor vacations.

          • Bob666

            So you do work 24/7 as we have observed.

            Alondra + You-Tube = Propaganda!

    • Quester55

      When SCIENCE Can Produce a PLANET out of Nothing, Or Change an Desert into an Open Grass Land, Free of Chemicals ?
      How about something Simple, Create LIFE from a pile of Minerals & Dirt!! Without using ANY part of the Human Body?!
      Do any of that & maybe I’ll listen to what you say, Maybe!
      But I’ll ALWAYS Believe in GOD, The CREATOR OF Very Ungrateful
      humans!

    • Dr Moon

      We are for the science of using the petroleum under America instead of paying terrorists for it. You need to get up on science. Global Warming has been debunked, it is all a lie created by the UN to redistribute wealth among Nations. It’s been proven time and time again that the computer models were wrong because the data was fake. Climate Change does occur but Man has no part in it. Here’s some science for you. Mt St. Helen’s coughed more C02 into the atmosphere than man has created since the beginning of time. We only account for less than one percent, so saying its our fault is stupid. Those are the Facts.

      • KG

        quote: We only account for less than one percent, so saying its our fault is stupid.

        So, all of the oil spilled into the Gulf of Mexico was spontaneous? The canals in the northeast which used to blow-up every few years – that was ‘natural’? The mountains of Garbage at our overloaded landfills – that’s not evidence of mans power to influence the environment?
        The ‘facts’ that you present are the ‘facts’ you WANT to believe in.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You’re not too bright, are you KGB?

          • KG

            Why not impale thyself on thine own flagstaff.

          • WTS/JAY

            Where’s all that “communist-love”, KG?

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      “WISE men speak because they have something to say; FOOLS because they have to say something.” – ascribed to Plato, the world’s most influential Ancient Greek Philosopher

      WHY do not you “Get the facts first, and then distort them as you please.” ~ Mark Twain

      • WTS/JAY

        That’s a good one, Alondra!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      The personal attack and many arguments to ridicule. Such a long winded rant full of lies, innuendo, rhetoric, and hate towards anything American. Here is an article that you really need to read.
      http://www.westernjournalism.com/will-you-live-for-your-country/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “The 4th day of July, 1776…I am apt to believe …willbe celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
      John Adams

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama’s Congress Opens With Muslim Imam’s Prayer To Allah…One nation under Allah

    “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer” – Barack Hussein Obama

    On July 31, 2013, Imam Talib Shareef of Masjid Muhammad in Washington, D.C., opened a session of the United States Congress with a prayer on Capitol Hill. This is the America that Obama has been working so hard to create.

    This is the mission statement of the mosque where Talib Shareef is from:

    “To be a model, productive, involved Islamic community, noticeably contributing to the growth, solutions, and betterment of D.C. and the National Capitol Region, with establishments in religion, education and training, health and human services, housing for general and senior member care, neighborhood excellence, etc., embracive of all people, as a community that (G-d established…?) ,exemplifying the universal teachings and life example of Prophet Mohammed (SAW)…?, as taught by Imam W. Deen Mohammed (RA).”

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=14524

    • Quester55

      As for Me and My House, We’ll Serve the LORD(JESUS IS GOD)
      ONLY SATAN requires a Humans Blood for, MUSLIM, Worshiping it!In the Words of a TRUE AMERICAN, DAMN the MUSLIMS, FULL Steam Ahead!
      As For Your Dictator, Obama, Send him to a NICK-TIE PARTY, Along with his Tel-prompter.!!

      • WTS/JAY

        As for my Dictator Obama? I think you have that wrong, Quester55!

        • Dave

          Idiots list for today:
          Quester55
          Alondra (repeat qualifier)
          Jay (repeat qualifier)

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Thanks, Dave. It’s an honor to be in your collection. Enjoy it, Dunce.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            “Blessed are you when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
            Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
            Jesus Christ
            Matthew 5:11-12
            So since you are reviling people on this site for their Christian faith, they are being rewarded in heaven. You, on the other hand, are bound for fire and brimstone. Here is an article about your buddy Rangel.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/hey-rangel-those-white-crackers-are-your-boses/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other.”
            John Adams – 1798

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        You have it WRONG about WTS/JAY.
        That was just an information.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      It becomes just more and more nauseatingly sickening.

    • Dave

      And will you look at Obama’s Congress????

      A JEWISH prayer!!! OMG… Obama hates Jesus!!! Burn hiMMMM!!!

      http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/UK-Chief-Rabbi-delivers-Invocation-prayer-at-US-Senate

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        The Kenyan Pervert hates Christians. Is it surprise for you?

        • Dave

          Take your meds Beulah… I am making fun of your moron twin Jay.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            “Human behavior flows from TWO main sources: knowledge and wisdom.” – Plato

            You have NONE of them.

            “For a man to conquer himself is the first and noblest of all victories.” – Plato

          • Dave

            Well, we do know Alondra the insane can cut and paste… pity she can’t comprehend what the words mean.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Dave, what are you trying to say me that you can “comprehend what the words mean”?

            “The direction in which EDUCATION starts a man will determine his future in life” – Plato

            We can see that your life is determined by the Public School indoctrination.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Can you, child of satan? BTW, here are some articles for you to read that would put a dent into your disbelief delusions.
            http://www.nbcnews.com/science/piece-jesus-cross-relics-unearthed-turkey-6C10812170
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/while-it-is-still-ok-to-hit-back/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “We have appointed a continental fast. Millions will be upon their knees at once before their Great Creator, imploring His forgiveness and blessing – His smiles on American councils and arms.”
            John Adams

          • WTS/JAY

            Careful, Alondra, we wouldn’t want to overwhelm binky with deep thoughts.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Do not worry, Jay. He is incapable to process even narrow thoughts. He is working with the talking points.

          • WTS/JAY

            And what would the poor-boy do without his talking-points; drool?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Change his name.

          • WTS/JAY

            Enter Ron r?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack and argument to ridicule. When are you ever going to grow up? Here are some articles about the left wing wackos and Obama bin Laden. The first one is about Obama bin Laden’s friends in the Muslim Brotherhood.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/muslim-brotherhood-taking-anger-out-on-christians/
            Here is one about Obama bin Laden’s new friends Al Qaida.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/u-s-facing-al-qaida-retaliation-strike/
            Here is one about Obama bin Laden and his new regulations for all of us.
            http://www.thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/pending-regs/315359-seven-obama-regulations-to-watch
            Here is one with Bill Maher.
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/08/03/bill-maher-get-rid-of-the-department-of-homeland-security/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “It appears to me the eternal Son of God is operating powerfully against the British nation.”
            John Adams

        • WTS/JAY

          Evidently, Dave will accept a State-religion, just as long as its not Christian!

          • Dave

            Really?
            Oh…. I mean yes… I want the Jewish or Muslim fairy tale over the Christian fairy tale as the state religion. You are so perceptive.
            I wonder however… How do you generate enough brain power to keep your legs moving?

          • WTS/JAY

            So you’re into fairytales? No surprise here! (-:

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            No, there is NONE surprise. As always he is overdosed with the devastating side effects.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            What proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism to be accurate and correct? Atheism and evolution are just fairy tales and lies. Everything you have posted is a personal attack and argument to ridiclue, both of which show you are less intelligent. Don’t you ever get tired of being proven wrong? Don’t you ever get tired of being whomped on a daily basis? I guess you are a big believer in Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Furher, aren;t you Dave? Another 5th columner put back into his place. What else is new? Here are 2 songs about Obama bin Laden
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UtL3maK8aU
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDrtNEr_5M
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The general principles in which the Fathers achieved independence, were on the general principles of Christianity.”
            John Adams
            June 28, 1813

          • Dave

            Not an atheist non-patriot. Being an atheist means you have proof no god exists… I have no such proof. Just like you have no proof that god does exist. I just completely reject the business of religion. Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc… I belive you call it your “faith” and I ceratainly do not wat your fairy tales in my gov.

          • chris scott

            Psalm 14, “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.” Read the entire Psalm. This is our country that took prayer and the Bible out of the govt schools.

      • Ron r

        Yeah, I saw the video , did not see Obama. this was only the third time this has been done . Once in 2003, then in 2010, and recently. 2003 was done by a Turkish Imam. This one was done by a retired member of the U.S. Air Force , who happens to also be Muslim and an Imam. BTW, who’s congress was it in 2003????

        • WTS/JAY

          Oh, Dave switches moniker to Ron r. Seems he got his butt kicked while using “Dave”, so now he’ll try his luck under “Ron r”! But simply switching monikers, will not address your lack of intelligence, Dave! But do go ahead and give it a good try if you must! (-:

          • Dave

            Can’t let your BS stand the light of day can it Jay? Answer the question… who’s congress was in 2003 Jay? Once again, a conservative is caught in propaganda BS.

          • WTS/JAY

            Hey, you’re back! What happened to Ron r, Dave? Did i catch you in your BS? (-:

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Jay, do not chase him. Give him time to take breath and for couple eye blinks.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The left wing wackos have no propaganda? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Boy are you full of yourself. Here are some examples of what the 5th column has been up to recently.
            http://www.ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/canada-mexico-united-states-identified-homeland-during-senate-192128693.htm;
            I guess that Feinstein likes putting her foot in her mouth.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/ia-agents-who-were-in-benghazi-warned-by-cia-keep-silent-you-jeopardize-your-family/
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/house-passes-resolution-to-prevent-irs-from-enforcing-obamacare/
            Here is a video about the immoral actions of Bill “Do a Lewinsky” Clinton.
            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/08/national-enquirer-releases-alleged-transcripts-of-racy-tape-between-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky/
            It seems that the 5th column has their hands full of problems caused by their actions, Dave. It seems you need to get your head out of where you placed it and look at what is going on around you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “We electors have an important constitutional power placed in our hands: we have a check upon two branches of the legislature. It becomes necessary to every subject (citizen) then, to be in some degree a statesman.”
            John Adams
            August 29, 1783
            Signer of the Bill of Rights
            2nd President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • Dave

            Hey, its the non-patriot theocrat. Back with more conservative propaganda. Oh goodie.

          • jase

            um America’s congress.

            Oh yeah that’s right they don’t work for us any more. RINO, or Demoncrat. One party throws you a bone, by saying they are against abortion, pro business, one party throws you a bone, pro choice, pro worker, so you don’t watch that they are really doing. They are only in it for securing their own power and profit by keeping us fighting with each other and keeping us from watching them. No branch of government has had any interest but securing their own power for decades. Quit worrying about who is praying to what, and start worrying that soon you will not be able to pray or not pray as you see fit. For all you atheist who worry about the Christian conservatives, wait till you have Sharia law, then you WILL pray 5 times a day, or you will be tortured or killed. All of us need to be worried about getting the career politicians out. Getting the unnecessary law burden out. Getting the crushing weight of bureaucracy out. Getting the banks out. Getting the lobbyist out. Take responsibility for your self, and for those around you. Don’t wait for the government to tell you how.

        • Rainey Grimes

          Ron r aka Dave, sounds like you bed down with him.

    • ridge runner

      These sand pukes that worship a clay figurine and beleive i a phyco pedophile goat abuser, as our Karl Marx-communist loving Prez was indoctrinated in this BS mindset, not a religion. Of the Democrat Party is in bed with any oervert abhorant group that can be located. Of course that has always clung to the belief in the fascist-communist- now marxist pukes. Of course after 2 corrupt elections of a marxist muslim anti-American pervert, just shows how fking dumb voters illegal and legal are The single split tailed degreed females are as a group the stupidist voters and are getting screwed over by the Democrat Party, and by more ways than one.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama’s Links to Big Oil…

    Democratic politicians would have us believe that the Republicans are pro-big oil companies and that the Dems are against the “evil oil giants.” Why, then, did President Barack Obama approve a transfer of $2 billion American tax dollars to help fund the Brazilian oil company Petrobras? The answer is relatively simple: It has to do with George Soros’ Center for American Progress, and the groups’ influence on President Obama.

    George Soros is a billionaire radical progressive globalist who supports a socialist agenda for America, believes in toppling the free-market system, and the creation of a “new world order.” (See interview here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TOjckJWqb0A)

    He has invested in groups like Open Society Institute, which advocates for social justice, the anti-capitalist Tides Foundation, and the progressive blog site Media Matters.

    In 2003, Soros created the Center for American Progress, a group that has taken credit for Obama’s 2008 victory, for helping to create Obama’s team of cabinet members, and for the creation of his administration’s policies, including “Cap and Trade.”

    Likewise, the Center for American Progress encouraged President Obama to set up an escrow account for BP to deposit billions of dollars for Gulf Coast residents, and asked that he set up a commission to investigate the causes of the largest American oil spill in history.

    The Center for American Progress also asked President Obama to pass a bill requiring the California Public Utilities Commission to develop a plan for a smart grid. California now has the grid, provided by General Electric, a powerful supporter of the Obama administration.

    Obviously, this group is influential.

    In addition to Soros’ powerful Center for American Progress, the SEC filings indicate that Soros also has invested $637 million in Petrobras, a Brazilian state-controlled oil company that boasts $15 billion a year in profits.

    Strangely enough, the Obama administration pledged $2 billion in preliminary commitments for Petrobras for exploration, even after the British Petroleum oil spill, which has prompted President Obama to declare a 6-month drilling moratorium on all drilling. The question is, why would Obama feel it necessary to give money that America does not have, to a company that is already netting impressive profits annually?

    Ironically, even as President Obama bans deepwater drilling at 1,500 meters, Petrobras is drilling at 2,777 meters. By banning deepwater drilling for Americans, Obama is virtually destroying all American competitors of Petrobras.

    A brave reporter questioned White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs on Obama’s decision to invest money in Petrobras: “There are a couple of reports about an ex-import bank loaned to the Brazilian government for offshore drilling, Petrobras. And I’m wondering if you can give us an administration take on why investment in Brazil and petroleum exploration there is a good idea, helpful for the U.S. economy.” To this, Gibbs replied, “I’ve not seen that story. I’d have to take a look at the story.”

    What’s worse is that the White House justified the moratorium by using the testimony of 15 experts who allegedly agreed with the administration’s decision. However, according to the panel of experts, two paragraphs were added to the report after the experts signed it — the same two paragraphs that recommended a moratorium.

    When word of this was released, eight of the experts addressed a letter to the Interior Department where they explicitly stated that they had not in fact recommended a moratorium, and in fact, wholly disagree with a moratorium, claiming it would do more damage to the economy: “A blanket moratorium is not the answer. It will not measurably reduce the risk further and it will have a lasting impact on the nation’s economy which may be greater than the oil spill.”

    Likewise, the President is using the oil spill to impose upon Americans cap and trade legislation, heavily supported by the Center for American Progress. We find ourselves once again confronted by Crime, Inc. (Read: Crime, Inc.— The Movement Toward Global Government: http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/3082-crime-inc—-the-movement-toward-global-government.

    The moratorium is expected to cost rig workers $330 million per month in loss of wages. Thirty-five rigs will sit idly while Brazil’s Petrobras will continue to drill as deep as 14,000 feet. George Soros will continue to get richer while Americans will lose $6 billion in wages, at the request of our President. Why? Here’s another interesting, perhaps coincidental, tidbit: John Podesta is the head of the Soros’ Center for American Progress. His brother, Tony Podesta, is the lobbyist for British Petroleum. John and Tony also started their own lobbying company together, an apparent conflict of interest given the current situation in the Gulf.

    In addition to BP, Tony Podesta’s clients include NBC Universal, a company that is owned by General Electric, the company that provided the smart grid for California, recommended by the Center for American Progress.

    Could it be that the tangled web Obama weaves grows more sticky — or is this all a mere coincidence?

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/3181-obamas-links-to-big-oil

  • ONTIME

    THe saudi’s are a huge money pot for the deemers and some RINO’s and they will do anything to keep that money coming in including selling out the country….the wahabi mafia..

    • Dr dbiggs

      What’s being covered up is the true reason for the 2nd and only real
      attack. It was a planned fake kidnapping of Stevens and release of
      Blind Sheik which, in O and MSM think, would make him a hero, and
      shoo-in for re-election. It would also please his M. Brotherhood
      cohorts at the same time. Why else would he order a “Stand Down” of
      all security before, during and after the incident. Otherwise the lies
      and coverup that followed would be totally unnecessary. Another side
      note: Why would Stevens leave and isolate himself and his buddy if not
      to make the actual fake kidnapping invisible to the other Americans
      who were being kept at bay by what appears to be shots that were not
      intending to harm anyone but were just a diversion for what was really
      going down.. The 2nd and real attack came only after the 2 ex-seals
      thinking the Americans were in mortal danger returned fire killing
      about 40 attackers. The attackers thinking they had been betrayed by O
      regrouped surviving attackers, rearmed with heaver weapons and
      actually attacked for real killing the 4 Americans and leaving at
      least 1serverly wounded CIA employee who tried to assist the two
      ex-seals. All three are hero’s by my way of thinking. Everything
      that’s happened since then just reinforces my belief about what really
      happened. When you consider all of the things that happened, this
      scenario is the only thing that make any sense.

  • Debbie Hogan Tate

    This is just another ruse to take our eyes off of the Benghazi investigation! We are getting close to the real answers and the cover ups! Note there was no trouble! Al-Qaida thought they were closed in honor of Obama’s birthday! Keep pressing the issue of the Benghazi cover-ups! 35 CIA agents were also involved but have to take Monthly polygraphs to make sure they have talked to no one or said anything to anyone!! Non-disclosure forms were passed out and everyone HAD to sign! WE WANT THE TRUTH! DEMAND A SPECIAL SESSION and demand it be televised!

    • Dr dbiggs

      I to am stumping for ‘BroomStick One’ from a different perspective!

      Clinton History

      Food for Thought

      Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many
      “friends” of the Clintons .

      1- James
      McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent
      heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken
      Starr’s investigation.

      2 – Mary
      Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a
      Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder happened just after
      she
      was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

      3 – Vince
      Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton
      at Little Rock ‘s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head,
      ruled
      a suicide.

      4 – Ron
      Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have
      died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the
      investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull
      resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
      investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
      prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A
      few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

      5 – C.
      Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising
      organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

      6 – Paul
      Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in
      a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as
      a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

      7 – Ed
      Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods
      in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed
      Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill
      Clinton
      groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was
      involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

      8 – Jerry
      Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock ..
      Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little
      Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on
      Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
      After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

      9 – James
      Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had
      a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential
      people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

      10 – James
      Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He
      was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

      11 – Kathy
      Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead
      in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
      ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if
      she
      were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with
      Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible
      corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

      12 – Bill
      Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson.
      Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancée, he was found dead in
      June,
      1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his
      fiancée.

      13 – Gandy
      Baugh – Attorney for Clinton ‘s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping
      out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a
      convicted drug distributor.

      14 – Florence
      Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to
      the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas , airport drug smuggling case.
      He died of three gunshot wounds.

      15 – Suzanne
      Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas
      Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head,
      ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

      16 – Paula
      Grober – Clinton ‘s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her
      death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

      17 – Danny
      Casolaro – Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and
      Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently,
      in the middle of his investigation.

      18 – Paul
      Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with
      Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a
      toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a
      report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

      19 – Jon
      Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
      Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment
      balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty
      scandal.

      20 – Barbara
      Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown
      and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29,
      1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the
      Department of Commerce.

      21 – Charles
      Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special
      security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

      22 – Dr.
      Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care
      Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane
      crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory
      council personally treated Clinton ‘s mother, stepfather and brother.

      23 – Barry
      Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no
      accident.

      24 – Johnny
      Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the
      trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his
      car had hit a utility pole.

      25 – Stanley
      Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
      purported suicide and his report was never released.

      26 – Hershell
      Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his
      plane exploded.

      27 – Kevin
      Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track”
      case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas
      airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of
      death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports
      claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many
      linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand
      Jury.

      THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE
      IVES/HENRY CASE:

      28 – Keith
      Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck,
      7/88.

      29 – Keith
      McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

      30 – Gregory
      Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

      31 – Jeff
      Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in
      April 1989.

      3 2 – James
      Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death
      was due to natural causes”.

      33 – Jordan
      Kettleson – Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup
      truck in June 1990.

      34 –
      Richard Winters – A suspect in the
      Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

      THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

      36 – Major
      William S. Barkley, Jr.

      37 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds

      38 – Sgt.
      Brian Hanley

      39 – Sgt.
      Tim Sabel

      40 – Major
      General William Robertson

      41 – Col.
      William Densberger

      42 – Col.
      Robert Kelly

      43 – Spec.
      Gary Rhodes

      44 – Steve
      Willis

      45 – Robert
      Williams

      46 – Conway
      LeBleu

      47 – Todd
      McKeehan

      Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become
      aware of what happens to friends of the Clintons !

      HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? …………SURELY
      YOU JEST !!

    • jag

      Time to Impeach the loser!

  • ridge runner

    Just another case of having to massivelt corrupt election endorsed by the lap pooch media, and facilated by brain dead bastards in society, that suck on Holleyweird BS.

  • hippybiker

    Obama excepts a Gold necklace from a Saudi Prince. Right there, the pos has violated uS Constitution article 1 section 9 clause 8. He is scum of the lowest order.

    • jag

      U know he’s only there for the money and fame, just like a bad crook ,do as much damage as he can and reap the bennies!! U hit the nail on the head!

  • ridge runner

    And there is still brain dead morons who think this marxist pedophile worshipping muslim puke in the WH, is just a great piece of s–t. Notice the MN Rep muslim thinks the government owms our money. Of course Muslim Minnesota has always been a source of sex slavery and government controls and high taxes. Since the maxist muslim pervert got into office plane loads of rug scrubbing goat abuser have been overloading social programs and health care systems in any city these pervert show up at. Most invade apartments that taxpayers pay for, get trashed by these pervs, by using corner to releive them selves as do out in the sh-t hole countries (that Obama loves, and wants USA to become), that they should be sent back to. Notice any scrot hanger of Bozo’s, Holder must think murding your female relatives is just a minor thing, like a biting fly buzzing around a horse’s rear end.

  • jag

    The man HATES AMERICA!!!! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! LOVE FOR COUNTRY CAN’T LOOK LIKE THIS!!!!!!