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Obama Administration Cuts Off Aid To Countries Unfriendly To Gays

December 8, 2011 by  

Obama Administration Cuts Off Aid To Countries Unfriendly To Gays

The Administration of President Barack Obama warned the world against gay and lesbian discrimination Tuesday, saying the United States will use foreign assistance as well as diplomacy to back the Administration’s belief that it is a basic human right to be a homosexual.

At the United Nations headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton compared the struggle for gay equality to difficult passages toward women’s rights and racial equality, and she said a country’s cultural or religious traditions are no excuse for discrimination.

“Gay rights are human rights, and human rights are gay rights,” she said. “It should never be a crime to be gay.”

According to The Associated Press, Clinton’s audience included diplomats from Arab, African and other nations where homosexuality is criminalized and where discrimination against homosexuals is tolerated or encouraged.

The announcement that the United States will no longer send foreign aid to countries that do not support gay rights reportedly did not sit well with many of the U.N. leaders, as many of the ambassadors in the audience rushed out of the room as soon as Clinton finished speaking.

Republican Presidential primary candidate Rick Perry has spoken out against Clinton’s announcement, saying in a statement: “Promoting special rights for gays in foreign countries is not in America’s interests and not worth a dime of taxpayers’ money.”

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Karolyn

    We shouldn’t be sending them aid in the first place. We are not called “Bank of the World.” The aid is needed here more!

    • Brad

      Karolyn,

      For once I agree with your comment, we have millions going hungry daily, kids who need homes, family’s on the street to include the homeless. We need to help our selves before we help other country’s.

      • Michael

        I agree with the people who say that we need to fund our own nation first. And as for the gay thing, we should now be supporting regimes that hate their own people. abeit women, gays, or just outspoken people. But that sounds like a Republican USA.

        • JUKEBOX

          I am sure that Obama is in a real quandry, since he is possibly a closet homosexual, yet his Quran tells him that being gay is an abomination.

          • http://facebook dede999

            Our Christian Bible says homosexuality is a abomination to God and humanity.

          • Barb clemen

            No closet homosexual about it,via: his registration in a gay club in Chicago.
            Sothern Iraq is a mecca for gays,so no, it’s not a violation of the Quran.
            They have a morbid history with this activity. And it’s condoned.

        • Ronald R. Johnson

          Michael, it’s Ok to say you are a homosexual and if you doubt it just ask Hillary or Obama! I can’t wait till one day I read a head line that says Obama has been sleeping with the Butler and they have run away to San Francisco and got married and Michelle has been sleeping with the maid and and did the same and that Hillary has been sleeping with her Female Muslim Assistant and they to ran to the same city and got married too and old Bill has been sleeping with his butler too and they ran off to the same city and married also, but old Bill still keeps Monica kneeling under his desk once in a while!

          • Benjamin Franklin

            Ronald, google Obama’s homosexuality. He and his Chicago mayor friend Rahm Immanuel are both card carrying members of the “Gentlemen’s country club and bath house” in the windy city. He is also a member of his former Pastor and bed partner’s homosexual club in the church. He has appointed over two hundred homo’s to government positions including Federal judges. The Nazi party was started by homosexuals and he is following suit. The American people need to demand he be arrested for crimes against them to deem null and void everything he has set in motion. We cannot impeach him as he is not an American citizen, but if our voices are loud enough to force his arrest we can put an end to his ambition to destroy our nation. If we cannot convince those idiots we elected to comply then at least follow the dictates of our founding fathers to install a new form of government such as I have outlined in my message to the American people which I will now show you.

            No money, only guts
            I am not a person of wealth to butt heads in political debates and to openly declare my aspirations for putting America back on course and gain back the respect of other nations. To do this, I will need the American people to back me wholeheartedly. I am an honest man and as my ex wife once told me that I would be a very rich man if I were not afraid to step on others. I have served my country honorably in three branches of service and wear my Korea Veterans cap to remind people we are not the “forgotten vets” as the media has portrayed us. General George Washington was a write in candidate for the presidency so there would be no precedent on my part if I were to win that seat.

            Following are my plans for my platform, ” A much smaller and smarter government”.

            Alright America, as to my plan to bring our country back to an even keel and gain back the respect of other nations who have been Kow-Towed to by our change and hope so called president. His change is for a predominately homosexual government body and his hope is for tyrannical rule over us.

            As our forefathers instruct us in the Declaration of Independence to oust a form of government harming the people and install a new form. With your help we can initiate a form of selection, not election that will have no need of the electoral college, the biggest political crooks. In this manner, those in their peak both physically and mentally in the age group of 30 to 50, the first year may or someone else can submit their name to their district office where as thousands of names will be entered if not millions. Year two they will be screened by a panel of clergy to eject all undesirables. Year three tested by experts in all fields with process of elimination to arrive with one person from each state. These fifty in year four will enter a large chamber and each to a cubicle with computer and video-cam. Computer has another series of tests more stringent than previously taken, video cam is for eyes of world to pan cubicles to view facial expressions and body movements of those being tested. Highest scorer is new president with each lessening of scores to fill new government cabinet. The forty nine will have access to a large computer bank and they will be advisors and afilliates to the president. None will have a personal staff.
            Benjamin Franklin during those four years will, with out a salary put America back on course. First to obliterate Obamacare and since we are not in Russia dump the czars. Next we ” can” T.S.A., E.P.A., N.E.A. and any other agency not performing a real service. Everyone will be placed on a 13% flat tax. Make a million, pay 13%, make a thousand, pay 13% , no tax shelters or credits. If you are being paid a wage, you pay taxes. This will result in approximately an 80% reduction in the I.R.S. compliment with an option to continue working in uniform with U.S. troops returned from policing countries unwarranted to police our own borders against illegal entry.
            To countries the present administration has indebted us to for billions of dollars, inform them that what has been received is partial payment of what they owe us from WWII and to write it off. And, to those corporations that took advantage of us through NAFTA to utilize slave labor leaving minimal employment here that if they manufacture in other countries, they sell their products in other countries, not here and if they opt to return and pay the American worker a decent living wage, they are welcome. Where there is oil, drill and some of the more abundant petroleum properties are federally owned going against the constitution whereas the government is not to own property other than property deemed by the American people to be a National park or monument. All other such properties will be auctioned to the highest private American buyer, no foreign entities allowed.
            Upon learning that the United Nations are the issuers of social security numbers and have complete domination over the I.M.F. and the I.R.S. with American taxpayers picking up the major funding for it’s existence and that now it consist mainly of Islamic nations who would enslave us, I feel it time to pull the plug along with our hard earned tax dollars funding these Godless Idol worshipers and turn over to U.S. agencies activities that should be performed by them such as the issuance of S.S. numbers by the Social Security Administration. It is no wonder illegals are able to draw benefits with out ever having worked here. However, I do feel that those having lived here for a period of five years and are contributing to our nation to be schooled for a period of six months on U.S. History, cultures and our language and then sworn in as American citizens. Refusals to be deported with families.
            Welfare to be enacted by certain churches in each community with subsidization from the government. For those who are qualified by a physician appointed by the church, will receive supplementary assistance, all others advised to seek employment. (There will be some exceptions)

            Mr. Franklin will serve his four years (without salary as did President George Washington) to implement his plan and when his term has expired, put a petition on the internet for America to sign to resign the two party system on a National level while maintaining on local and state levels to preserve a balance. This action will send the career politicians packing making way for fifty honest people being groomed to lead the people, not rule with salary approved by the people to a more abundant and brighter future and at the end of their four years receive a generous severance package making room for next 50 being groomed.

            What I have written here to be executed by the powers of the office will in fact cause all worthwhile proposals by other candidates to fall in place without the expense of a huge war chest. All that is needed is for America to wake up and head us in the right direction for a more prosperous and brighter future for coming generations to seek Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

            Benjamin Franklin

      • http://naver samurai

        Agreed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Jukebox is a closet bigot (not admitting it) and maybe the other fellow. Never mind the other fellow admits it.

          • http://naver samurai

            Being anti-gay lifestyle is not bigotted, moron. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Randy G

      Make sure we cut off aid to people that dislike the US, too!!!!!

      • John Thomas

        no no no, we must send them aid so they canb buy weapons to make war against us. Don’t you understand the nobama policy? “Destroy the USA from within”

        • http://deleted Claire

          “Destroy America from Within” —This has been going on for decades.

          • Mary

            Yes, since FDR. The end is getting closer by the day.

          • eddie47d

            Think much Mary?

      • Lee Baldwin

        -Come On, Randy G!!! THAT would leave only the muslim countries!

      • Lisa

        Cut off aid to ‘ALL’. Then there is no discrimination whatsoever. Discrimination laws are the stupidest laws ever put forward. Someone’s action (good or bad) ALWAYS discriminates against someone, every single time.
        Who the hell does the U.S. think it is to dictate to the rest of the world anyway?
        Best be careful I think, there are many countries already looking at the U.S. with disgust.
        That silippery slope is becoming steeper by the day.

    • T-Texas

      I wonder if this is going to include the muslim countries also.

    • Mary

      You are right. We need order in our house in all the ways. The president is one of them. He doesn’t care about us.

    • http://naver samurai

      I also agree with you Karolyn. See, we can agree sometimes. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • madog2

      When it comes to sex we have a president that likes to swing both ways so why wouldn’t he push to support the homosexuals. And who was the idiot that started calling them “gays”? Different, freakish, weard, sodomist, sinner, homo, queeny dirtygirlys but gay don’t come close to discribing what they are. I’m aware that there is a good chance this will not be posted but the american straight people have rights as well as the odd balls.

      • Kevin

        Despite all of the pathetic conservative rumors, Obama is not gay or bisexual. There is zero provable evidence to suggest that he is. So stop disrespecting the office of the presidency and grow up. Whether you agree with the president or not, there is no cause to be disrespectful to his position. I did not agree with this when liberals were disrespectful to Bush and I do not agree with it now. It does nothing to solve any situation and actually makes problems worse in this country. Children have no respect for authority these days because they see their parents and other adults disrespecting authority figures like the president. Disagree and express yourself respectfully. Set an example for the next generation, or we will truly be lost.

        • Marcus

          Hmmm. Lary Sinclair is in no way shape or form a Republican or conservative. Just someone with a story about Obama which the media didn’t want to report. Too bad, it might have made Obama go the way of Cain.

    • alex

      Cool! Now if the same can be done for countries that do support homosexual issues, then all the money stays home.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Nobody is asking for “special rights” as Rick Perry claims. The correct thing to do is allow homosexuals the same rights and priviliages heterosexuals enjoy.

    While I agree with President Obama’s stand on this foreign aid issue; we should look in the mirror and recognize that, while not as repressive as some countries, our country has some steps to take to allow homosexuals the same rights and priviliages heterosexuals enjoy.

    • Runninbear

      Whats next will Obama cut funds if other countries don’t allow bestially or pedophilia.
      Obama has shown his true colors and his is GAY! If Obama is gay which by statements by Larry Sinclair is true then we now see why he refuses to uphold the D.O.M.A.act and other laws that he took an oath to enforce,like repealing don’t ask don’t tell.Which has opened the door to having sex with animals? Somehow we knew it would be bad when he broke his oath of office to repeal DADT that it would open doors to every sexual pervert would be clanging for the same rights as homosexuals.Where will it end?
      O(MG! OMG!OMG! Obama Must GO!

      • Karolyn

        Oh, puhleez! Don’t be ridiculous!

        • http://naver samurai

          Like you are? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • wally stewart

        ITS ALL ABOUT REELECTION FOLKS.BUT IF HE HOLDS TRUE TO HIS WORTHLESS WORD FORIEGN AID WILL MOSTLY CEASE. GOODBY FORIEN AID TO SAUDIA AN OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRYS

      • eddie47d

        Runninbear needs to put some clothes back on and has been exposed for the anal comment.

        • Brad

          Sorry Eddie,

          You sir are the repulsive one, when is it in our best interest as a country to tell another what they will do to their homosexual population, so now we are going to become the sex police? It’s repulsive that this administration has forged forward taking an anti-US policy refusing to enforce US law and dictating what should be done, no sir, not today and not tomorrow.

          • Kevin

            Brad – No one is forcing these countries to do anything. We are not obligated to give aid to any other country, nor are they obligated to accept aid from us. They still have the option to run their country however they see fit, they just won’t be given money from us. I don’t see how supporting gay rights is anti American or what law you believe is not being enforced through this policy. We are not being the “sex police” either. Homosexuality is not an action, it is a state of being. People are homosexuals. Sex is only one aspect of life for homosexuals and heterosexuals. It is not the defining characteristic, at least not for me; I have no idea how you live your life.

          • Brad

            No Kevin,

            You have proven my point, this administration telling other country’s to quit disrispecting their gay population or else we are going to cut off aid. What I meant about this administration not enforcing current law, just to name immigration, DOMA and the rest this administration has decided not to enforce.

          • kevinnc

            That is not dictating, Brad. We are giving them aid as a gift. If we don’t agree with their policies, epecially when those policies involve human rights violations, we have the right to refuse to give any further aid. They have the right to continue their policies if they want. If you were donating money to a charity and found out that they were using some of the funds to do something you disagreed with, you have the right to tell them that you will not give them further donations if they continue with those practices. They don’t have to comply with your demands, but they are not entitled to further money either.

        • eddie47d

          Brad; Runninbears comment was about bestiality and pedophile and was totally inappropriate and REPULSIVE. Is your mind just as convulted? .

          • Brad

            Hey Eddie,

            Haven’t you heard the senate has voted to allow sodomy and bestiality in the US military!!! Yes I do believe bestiality and pedophilia as perverted behavior for any person. Our children aren’t sexual objects, we as parents are suppose to protect our young from those types of sexual predators.

          • eddie47d

            Homosexuality and bestiality are two different entities.

          • http://naver samurai

            That is true that they are 2 seperate entities, but they are supported by Obama bin Laden and monkey toold like you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Dave

        That is just the stupidest comment you could make. Grow up and get with the population of the US and the world. The countries are saying kill gays and imprison them. That’s not right.

        • DavidL

          Hit the nail on the head, Dave. It’s not about special privileges as Perry and other critics argue, its about protection from violence and discrimination. Every “Christian” on this sight would have no problem with Clinton’s statement of policy if Christians were being attacked and discriminated against. If fact, they all would be screaming for the same action.

          • Marilyn

            IF Christians are being discrininated against,killed, jailed??? Happens all the time in muslim countries. How about standing up for freedom of religion.

          • Monte

            You are right on there, Marilyn. You never hear anything about the discrimination and murder of Christians taking place in various parts of the world. My tax money is spent on protecting fags, but not Christians. Our country has become an evil joke.

          • http://na Jim

            I agree Monte, it seems like we can’t stop shooting ourselves in the foot now at days.

          • eddie47d

            All religions should be protected against unwarranted attacks. Such as the Coptic Christians in Egypt or Muslims in America. Because one side hates doesn’t mean the other side should or we’ll all be blind. It also shouldn’t come down to a gay vs Christian issue. All rights should be protected.

          • Brad

            Then why aren’t you standing up for all religions eddie, especialy when our own gov has attacked christianity here at home, why aren’t railing against that, aren’t you christian eddie. You tell others here its like gay vs christianity, where as islam doesn’t condone either and have murdered or imprissoned both groups, Eddie you can be so hypocritical at times, try getting your story strait first before voicing your opinnion.

          • mark

            Eddie is absolutely right here. This is not an either/or issue. Both homosexuals and religious minorities no matter their denomination should be afford fulled rights and protection against persecution. The U.S. should support this stance. We gave far too much aid during the Cold War to mass-murdering right-wing regimes just because they were anti-communist and protected our investments and trade. We should give no aid to those states that encourage violence and prejudice agaisnt gays and religious minorities – and of course this includes discrimination and violence against Christians.

          • eddie47d

            Take you swill someplace else BRAD. Really read my comment and nowhere did I say anything derogatory against Christians or not come to their defense. No hypocricy BRAD but you proved yourself to be convulted.

          • Brad

            Sorry Eddie you are the one who’s convulted, I have seen you post here protecting homosexuals to include islam, you have to work harder to get your story right.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry ed-duh, but its not that gays don’t have rights like the rest of us. It is that they want special rights and special recognition for their perverted lifestyle. I subscribe to The Voice of the Martyrs and they tell how Christians are being jailed, killed, or worse in China, Vietnam, the Middle East, Columbia, and other areas because of their faith. Why should we care about what is happening to the gays? They are not any kind of group. They can’t be a minority. As minorities are classified by race, religion, and nationality, gays cannot have the same classification, as they cross all these lines. These things are happening, slowly but surely, in this country also. Like a middle school in Vallejo California giving a student 1 week suspension for writing “God Bless America” on the cover of her notebook. No one cared about that, but they have to care about gays and be forced to learn gay history in their schools? This nation has gotten far away from how it was founded. Handouts to foriegn nations is not authorized under the Constitution. Just don’t give anyone any money and quit worrying about how they handle their queer population. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            Your a pathetic liar Brad for I never made that comparison. You are a deranged troll. Now you got Samurai all bent out of shape. Thanks for nothing.

          • saso

            Christian r being attacked and even murdered in many muslim countries that gay r not tolerated in !!!
            Every other persons cry about equal rights but for the Christians take all their rights away ???

        • Brad

          Then tell me why we should tell other country’s how they should run their own country, its making the US like a bully because they don’t enforce gay rights, its a choice you need to get over it.

          • mark

            No we are just going to cut their foreign aid and speak out against them in internat’l forums. We are not going to run their countries, we are also not going to invade them. This is not a Bush/Cheney initiative.

          • Brad

            NO, this administration telling other country’s how they can treat their own people with the threat of turning off their foreign aid! This is Obama/Biden administration, Bush/Chaney have been out of office since Jan 20, 2009.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wrong answer Mark. Didn’t Obama bin Laden send more troops to Afghanistan? Didn’t he start bombing Lybia without a vote from the Congress or Senate? Didn’t he send drones into Yemen and kill people without a vote either? Bush, baaaaa! Cheney, baaaaa! Military invasion, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! I sware you sheeple play the same tune all the time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • libertytrain

          Dave I guess what you are saying, despite the left saying we ought to be minding our business and not intrude into the ways of other countries, that we should in fact pick and choose when we intrude – what “civil” rights we are going to demand be implemented. I’m confused.

          • eddie47d

            You’ll always be confused!

          • libertytrain

            Interesting Eddie that the man who claims not to throw insults tries to throw one at me. I wasn’t addressing any issue of yours. Yet you felt that need to show your true colors… I really appreciate your comment. It demonstrates exactly who and what you are. No doubt left in my mind.

          • http://naver samurai

            Don’t worry about ed-duh, fellow patriot. He was just an abused child who now is experiencing strange and confused behavior. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            That’s easy to do with the likes of you. LOL

          • libertytrain

            eddie you inevitably remind me of a middle school kid….that’s not a compliment.

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s his mentality. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Mary

          We have to respect life and freedom. Nobody deserve to die for their sexuality or religion. Sexual crimes is another business if involve children that is a Capital crime that deserve capital punishment. I know a couple of gays it’s not their choice. It’s sad what’s going on in those Islamic countries. We know is their way of life. I think they are cursed. I just thank God I’m not from any of those countries. They treat women like animals. They are inhuman.

          • http://naver samurai

            Being gay is a choice and they are not born that way. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Mary

            I used not to talk about three things, politics, religion and sex because I was a lady. I was bored until I came to this country. I’m sure the religions are no good. I have read the Bible and I couldn’t read to much of the Quran it’s really sick. When a 50 years plus “profet” write that God told him to marry a six year old little girl or take the wife of his step-son there is no way those are God’s words. It’s history and a mix of reality and fiction. Like a lot of passages in the Bible ex.: the talking donkey Num. 22:28-30. The magic genetic Gen. 30: 37-39. God sent Ehud to save Israel Judges. 3: 16-23 and the worst Judges 19: 22-30 totally bizarre. We need to ask and specially research for ourselves in all the aspects of life. Respect every opinion and never forget the common sense. I don’t want to offend nobody. I just love to read. At the end only God nows. Samurai I have seen the pain and suffering of Lesbian woman she tried the church for two years and gave up. She asked me this question that I’ll never forget: Do you think Mary I want to be Lesbian and black?. Excuse my errors English is my third language.

      • Robert Smith

        Runninbear says: “Which has opened the door to having sex with animals? ”

        Really? Does that mean that the second ammendment opens the door for every crack head to go around shooting kids in playgrounds?

        Your argument by extremism just doesn’t hold any water.

        If you need a law to keep your kid from marrying the German Sheppard next door you ain’t brought your kid up right. It’s that simple.

        Rob

        • Brad

          RS,

          Then did the senate overwhelmingly over turn sodomy and beastiality in the US Military, according to them it is legal.

          Really, it takes a sick person to walk into a playground and shoot inocent children, you are the one who is promoting fear to create a reaction. So, would you like it if your child, once grown determines he/she is gay and then meets some one of the same sex then finds out he/she been infected with AIDS. Why aren’t you teaching your child what’s right and what’s wrong, if you are a hetrosexual person you will find homosexuality wrong but naturaly wrong.

          • Kevin

            Brad – In what world do you live in where bestiality is now legal? Also, people don’t turn gay, they are gay. So instead of trying to frighten your children, why not educate them about safe sex? Then you won’t need to worry about AIDS.

          • Palin16

            I see kevin’s “gaydar” is working well this morning. The only time he shows up at Personal Liberty is when there’s an article about homosexuals. Yet he’s so ashamed of the disgusting practises that homos do he can’t even tell us why Bawney Fwank had his teeth removed. Let’s just not talk about the perversions and maybe some of the conservatives on this site will buy his total nonsense about being born that way. Kevin has a one-track mind of recruitment. I doubt he’ll be posting on the Blagojevich column.

          • Kevin

            And as usual Palin, you can’t manage to post anything that doesn’t involve ignorance and stupidity. I couldn’t care less about Barney Frank and his teeth. The fact that you bring up his missing teeth demonstrates your maturity level.

            I have no shame about who I am. I am quite proud of who I am. The fact that you can only post insults about other people would indicate that you have your own self-esteem issues and can only feel good about yourself by tearing other people down. I feel sorry for you. I’ll say a prayer for you.

          • Brad

            Kevin get your facts strait, “While text in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 did indeed give the US military the power to — as Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) put it — turn America into a “battlefield,” for the men and women serving the United States, they will be able to, under the legislation, engage in both sodomy and bestiality, legally, while protecting America”.

            Kevin, when if ever have you ever heard a 10 year old evan a 6 year old child say they are gay or lesbian, probably never, sir you are sick. Yes people choose what type of lifestyle they want for themselves even those who hide it from society. Sir, I am a parent and my daughters are 10 and 6, both my wife and I teach our children what’s right and what’s wrong and in my own personal opinnion homosexuality is wrong and goes against god. He wants us to be fruitfull and multiply, a man with a woman not man with man to make fudge patties.

          • Kevin

            Brad – I don’t know any 10 or 6 year olds who have a sexual identity yet. I didn’t start thinking about sex at that age, did you?

          • Robert Smith

            Brad reminds us about his brutal god: “He wants us to be fruitfull and multiply…”

            Really? Then you oppose any post-menaupausal woman marrying, or a vet who was injured and unable to have kids being married because they won’t have kids.

            BTW, I find it the ultimate perversion that in a religion that says “go forth and multiply” that their managers (priests) aren’t supposed to marry and have kids.

            Guess messing with kids is their version of a compramise.

            Rob

          • eddie47d

            BRAD please capitalize God when you refer to HIM …That is as a Christian, okay smartazz!

          • moonbeam

            Robert Smith says:
            December 8, 2011 at 2:42 pm

            “BTW, I find it the ultimate perversion that in a religion that says “go forth and multiply” that their managers (priests) aren’t supposed to marry and have kids.”

            Rob, that is man’s law, not God’s law that priests can’t marry. Aaron, brother of Moses, was a Levite Priest. He was married and had children. This business of priests and nuns can’t be married and have families is a law of man. God never gave this command.

          • Robert Smith

            Posted: “God never gave this command.”

            Yes, there is a bunch of stuff being offered by man that I’ll bet that there christian god doesn’t approve of. Hate, bigotry…

            Rob

      • T-Texas

        whole new meaning to the saying screw you and the horse you rode in on.Are they going to have classes on how to have safe sex with an animal? I think that read some where that muhammed thought it was ok to have sex with an animal as long it was female.

        • eddie47d

          I see they have uneducated sicko’s in Texas too!

      • gunner 689

        It will never end until America and all that is good and moral is destroyed. The Senate just voted to repeal the Sodomy Law in the UCMJ governing the military. We live in the end times and it’s time to choose which side we are on as individuals and oppose evil where and when we can. No more middle ground or tolerance for evil.

    • Ron

      Obumer is just looking for the Gay vote, even holding up the day after pill to please voters then will stick it to them if he wins

      • Disgusted

        Spot on Ron. He is in campaign mode right now and saying whatever it will take to get whatever votes he possibly can. Once he gets them he will go back on his word since he will not need them any longer. It is a repeat of his last election campaign….thank god I didn’t drink his kool-aid….unfortunately many people did and probably will again.
        Ron Paul for President!!

      • Wu Ming Ren

        There should not have to be a pretense for withholding foreign aid, because there should be no foreign aid in the first place. But, does Obama really need to seek the gay vote? It seems to me that he’d have the gay vote just for being a Democrat. No, there is something more to this than mere campaign mode. I believe he is building a foundation for attacking Christianity for its opposition to homosexuality. He is not withholding foreign aid from countries that murder Christians and Jews, but from countries that murder homosexuals. I don’t condone the murder of homosexuals, but why not also withhold foreign aid from all countries that murder their citizens just because of their religioius beliefs? Are Christians and Jews unworthy of protection because they view homosexuality as a sin?

        • Marilyn

          Right on. The “plan” does something to tear down the USA or he wouldn’t be for it.

        • Robert Smith

          Wu Ming Ren claims: “I believe he is building a foundation for attacking Christianity for its opposition to homosexuality. ”

          Actually not all of christanity opposes gays. Look at Bisho Gene Robinson for example.

          It’s just SOME brutal christians who use the bible as a weapon to support their bigotry and hate that America needs to stand up to. I think of them as the American Taliban.

          Rob

          • Monte

            The Bible says it is an abomination. Anyone who says otherwise is speaking false doctrine. Read the Bible before you begin your ignorant preaching. God said it is sin. No number of liberal loones will change what He has written.

          • eddie47d

            There are gay conservatives Monte so enough with the liberal loon comments. Be the best Christian you can be for yourself and for your family. Someone being gay shouldn’t change the way you think about yourself and you probably won’t change how a gay person thinks.

          • Monte

            Eddie, people want something from me. They are demanding my support. And that is support of something I am entirely and completely against. The Bible says to abhor evil. No amount of argue, threats, or coercion will ever change what God has written. I will oppose it as long as I draw breath. It is not normal, healthy, or gay. It is pure evil and abhorrent.

          • Karolyn

            Monte – Here is another view of what the Bible says. Can you bear to read it? Can you open your mind long enough and not be corrupted? You know they could be right, and you COULD be wrong!
            http://www.religioustolerance.org/homglance.htm

          • Monte

            K. I will not read it. I have read the Bible. I know what It says. Some liberal loone’s translation is of no importance to me. God said what I need to know and it’s in easy to understand language. Read it for yourself. This was common knowlege throughout the ages till liberal loones began a new secular moral crusade. I have the word of God. What do you have? The word of Marx? Lenin? Stalin? Or some other leftist loon? You people create only problems and confusion.

          • Robert Smith

            From Monte: “The Bible says it is an abomination.”

            It says eating a cheeseburger or bacon is too.

            What’s your point? Are you going out to picket Burger King over a bacon cheesburger?

            Like I said, using a brutal christian bible to justify your own personal hate and bigotry.

            Rob

          • Robert Smith

            Monty claims: “They are demanding my support. And that is support of something I am entirely and completely against. ”

            Really? Please let us know what they have asked from you. Please be specific.

            Rob

          • Karolyn

            Monte – There have ALWAYS been differing interpretations of the Bible. You think this is something new? I didn’t think you would read it. I remember when I was a practicing Christian, I was scared away from anything that didn’t have the stamp of approval. However, I am, and have always been, a seeker and could not be stifled.

          • eddie47d

            Okay, apparently Conservative loon Monte says he doesn’t support anything that he disagrees with. How about the Iraq War;did you protest against that? How about Wall Street greed and bankster scams that hurt alot of people:did you protest against that? Is that not apart of your values? Since 98% of all child porn traffickers and paedophilia’s are heterosexuals do you go after them as viciously as you go after gays . Maybe you give them a wink because they have the same sexual orientation as you do.

          • saso

            Well for some one that does not have a clue about what the bible says about homosexuality ,, U sure have alot to say !!!Even in the animal kingdom they no better that it is not normal to b with the same sex!!

            Now as for the word of God ,,,, love the sinner but not the sin !!Romans chapter 3 is crystal clear about what God (bible) says about homosexuality

          • Vigilant

            The following may be spurious, but it’s food for thought:

            “Dear Dr. Laura:

            Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

            When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

            I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

            I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

            Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

            I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

            A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this?

            Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

            Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

            I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

            My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? – Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)”

        • Kevin

          The countries murdering homosexuals are the same ones murdering Christians and Jews, so problem solved.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          You may have come as close to the real answer as there can be.

      • eddie47d

        More lame comments from Ron.Gays don’t have a large voting block so you are making a wrong assumption. They have about the same percentage as Jewish voters (about 2% each) and the Jewish vote is also trumped up.Then there is the illegal vote that is always brought up but since illegals can’t vote that is another phony issue used to spread fear. Almost all stories or comments brought up here about voter cheating is a hyped up hoax that seldom come to fruition but it makes for great fear mongering.

        • Dave

          Yeah, from all accounts in every state there have been such limited instances of voter fraud to be nonexistent and unrecorded. Any attempts to take away from those who have the right to vote, RINOs, they should be the ones we look at as unconstitutional. My father fought and his father fought for these rights, with many others. To try to limit, in any fashion, the numbers allowed to vote because of hurdles put in their way deserve our wrath. Again, RINOs.

        • Brad

          Then Eddie where is your proof there isn’t voter fraud going on? That includes illegals voting and so on and so forth.

          • Robert Smith

            Brad, you must be in some other country. In America it’s up to the accuser to prove guilt, not the innocent to prove themselves such.

            You might try some American ideas. Inocent until proven guilty. What a concept, huh!

            Rob

          • eddie47d

            Brad believes all the lies that get put out by the right wing tabloids. Even with all the accusations against ACORN nothing was proven and no one was convicted. Yet they still beat that drum. The same with voter machines rigged by Democrats no proof.When it comes to illegals very few would be willing to take the chance of going to the polls and attempt to vote. They don’t need another excuse to be deported. Lies all right wing lies to stir the hysteria.

          • Brad

            RS,

            This is an ABC conversation between Eddie A to me B you need to C your way out since you have no idea what we were talking about.

          • Brad

            By the way Eddie you might want to read this, http://invergroveheights.patch.com/articles/49-dakota-county-residents-charged-with-illegally-voting-in-2008-caeb5749

            To say the least if you do a simple internet search you will find loads of proof concerning illegals to include felons are voting illegaly.

          • eddie47d

            Some states do allow felons to vote.So nice try.

        • Brad

          So eddie you are telling us that out of the 12 some odd million illegals we have in this country, none are voting illegaly in this country, I’m throwing up the BS flag eddie, you have to provide proof.

          • Robert Smith

            Your accusation Brad, prove it.

            It’s like saying there is “sin” among priests without proof. But oops, there is proof.

            Rob

          • eddie47d

            Brad is the one waving the false flag !

          • Brad

            No RS,

            Its Eddies flag that he has to provide proof illegals aren’t voting. Again if you do a simple internet search you will find pages and pages of proof illegals have been caught voting illegaly in our country.

          • eddie47d

            Anything can be proven on the Internet… but is it true. Isolated incidences don’t make for facts about certain groups of people. I could probably find a drunk living within your family but that doesn’t make you a drunk. At least I can’t prove that .

      • Dave

        Obama didn’t propose stopping access to the day after pill. It was quite a surprise to everyone.

    • Leo

      What are you moron talking about ?? ” our country has some steps to take to allow homosexuals the same rights and priviliages heterosexuals enjoy.” What steps ??? You imbecile do have your rights to put in your ass anything you want , what else do you need ? Do you expect me to applaud you for that ? You are disgust me . But this is your life and your choice to be ..whenever . This is an America . Everybody has the rights to be a moron .Or not to be .

      • Kevin

        Based on your grammar, spelling, and complete ignorance, you have clearly chosen to be a moron.

    • wandamurline

      The homosexuals have every right to be what they want to be. However, it is being forced upon the 95% of America who are straight. If you want to chose to be homosexual, that is your choice and you have every right to it…but if I feel that it is an abomination and I do not believe in it, I should have that right also. The gays are on a warpath to “make” everyone “accept” their way of life as healthy and normal….it is not healthy and normal, it is perversive. All of a sudden, if someone does not believe in homosexuality, they are attacked. As far as foreign aid attached to gays, most of the middle east will be eliminated, saving us billions…good.

      • Kevin

        Being gay is not a choice and no one is forcing anything onto you.

        • Brad

          Sorry Kevin,

          A person has to decide whether or no he/she is gay or not, its called their lifestyle choice, like it or not, plus science hasn’t found the so called gay gene either, so try again.

          • Kevin

            I never was offered this choice. From a very young age I was attracted to men and found emotional satisfaction with men that I could not find with women. There was never a point where I woke up and said, “Gee, I think that I’ll be gay from now on!” It doesn’t work that way. Why would anyone want to be gay? There are no advantages to it.

          • Brad

            Kevin,

            What you are saying is over time you choose being with men over women, a choice you made for yourself right. In your words “I was attracted to men and found emotional satisfaction with men that I could not find with women”. I have no qualm in your choices you make for yourself more power to you, I do have problems when the homosexual lobby and democrats start forcing your lifestyle choices down my throat and teaching it in school, that’s wrong.

            Other than not being able to connect with women, why are you gay?

          • eddie47d

            They teach you about our white forefathers and that you date straight women… you just don’t connect the dots because you have always accepted it.

          • kevinnc

            Brad, how do you interpret what I said as a choice? I do not feel any physical or emotional attraction to women. Attraction is not a choice, it is an innate aspect of the human psyche. The gay “lifestyle” is a myth and a stereotype. The only thing gay about my “lifestyle” is the fact that I share my life with another man. You can try to spin it anyway you want, but the fact remains that it is not a choice. Unless you chose to be straight, meaning that you considered being gay at some point, you can’t argue that other people chose to be gay. There is no conscious choice involved in who we are attracted to. If you think that there is, then you have no idea what love is and I feel sorry for you.

          • Palin16

            Kevin,
            Don’t get your panties in a wad. Care to enlighten us on “tea-bagging”?

          • Brad

            Kevin,

            No matter what we make choices concerning our lives on a daily basis from what car we buy to the people we date and marry. Love is an emotion a feeling for someone of the opposit sex but for you its with another man. As to your accusation that all are gay and we choose to be strait is pure science fiction and you know it. So why is 99% of the US is strait and the remainder is LGBT?

          • kevinnc

            Palin16 – Grow up. All you are able to do is make childish remarks that offer absolutely nothing to the conversation.

            Brad – Your response seems to be reinforcing what I am saying. Love is not a choice. I don’t choose to love my boyfriend; I can’t help but to love him. He completes a part of me and makes me whole. I don’t know where you got the idea that I believe that everyone is partially gay. I never said that or even implied it. My comment was that if you believe that sexuality is a choice then everyone has to consider both options. Since I have repeatedly stated that sexuality is not a choice, I obviously don’t think that people are considering being gay or being straight and then picking one or the other.

          • kevinnc

            And, by the way Palin16, you are aware that tea-bagging is not an activity limited to homosexuals, right? Heterosexuals do this too.

          • Brad

            Kevin this is what you are affraid to tell Palin16, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teabagging

          • Kevin

            Brad, I am not afraid to tell anyone anything. Palin16 is an immature child for even bringing up teabagging. You all yell about how you don’t want to know what goes on in other people’s bedrooms, yet here you are asking me about a sexual act! The really sad thing is that the two of you seem to think that you have made some sort of profound point by bringing it up. Grow up.

        • Doug

          It’s not a choice? Then please tell me what it is? There is no science stating there is any difference in the brain between Hetro or Homo it is a choice. You have rights as a person just like anyone else. What rights do straights have the homos don’t?

        • independant thinker

          The homosexual lifestyle is a choice. Even if you accept the theory that some are born homosexual the lifestyle is still a choice. In other words you do not have to practice homosexuality.

          • Kevin

            So you are acknowledging the possibility of someone being born gay, but feel that they should deny who they are and enter into a loveless marriage just because it is the “right” thing to do? Or should they live completely alone and never experience love because people like you believe that it is wrong? Neither option seems very good to me.

          • moonbeam

            Kevin, you don’t get it. Nobody give a rats ass what you all do. We really don’t care what two consenting adults do behind closed doors. The problem society is having, is that what is considered aberrant sexual behavior shoved in our faces and down our throats, like a need for society’s approval to justify it.

          • kevinnc

            No one wants your approval. Homosexuals want to be able to have the same rights as everyone else, that’s all. This is not shoving anything in your face.

          • Palin16

            hey kevin,
            are you gay boys born with high squeeky voices and/or lisps too, or is that an adopted behaviour to let everyone know you’re a homo?

          • Kevin

            Yet more great, mature insight from you Palin16. By the way, I have a very deep voice and don’t speak with a lisp. That is a stereotype.

          • Palin16

            the majority of them do speak in high squeeky voices

        • Will

          Kevin, homosexual behavior is a choice and when engaged in, an addiction. Being tempted is universal. We are all tempted by sin. Sadly, all of us fold to some temptation or another. Lying is an abomination by biblical definition, so is homosexuality. Let God judge me for telling my employer i am sick so i’ll be off work today, and I’ll let God judge you for giving in to Your temptation. God loves us all. To the others who wonder why homosexuality has been sold big time in schools, it serves the global elite in two ways. First, homosexuals by definition don’t reproduce. Hence it reduces overpopulation by the masses who use resources that to thier minds belong to thier elite offspring, and second, they KNOW we read the book and know how thier one world government scheme will end so we will influence people against a world currency and world government. They also know we can’t say that homosexuality is ok, good, acceptable or anything better than plain old sin. So if they can confuse the weak minded and those without moral compass that “gay is the way” and that people who refuse to buy into “gay is the way” thinking are mean and bashers rather than those who might try to discourage young folks from allowing thier temptation to lead them down a path of addiction and ultimately destruction, the elites will use this to drive a wedge between believers and the rest of the world to discredit Christians and reduce our influence when they spring the world currency/world government trap on us. (The globalists don’t believe that Satan is on the scene right now waiting to take control of their hard won system, they think they are gonna get all the marbles.) I’m sorry that this post was so difficult to read.

          • Kevin

            I hate to break it to you, but homosexuals are not part of some evil cabal trying to take over the world. I can assure you from my own experience that I am not “addicted” to being gay. I am gay. There is an enormous difference. Outside of the fact that I share my life with a man, my life is probably not all that different from yours. You just refuse to see that.

    • Martha

      Well, if he does this, it means he’s cutting off all support to his fellow Muslim’s because it’s for SURE, they do not put up with homosexuality. Their motto is ‘behead them’. Guess he’s turning his back on his own people and their beliefs.

      • Chewinmule

        According to the Imams, the pitcher doesn’t sin. It’s the catcher doing the sinning. And if you flaunt it and profess your “taste” for it…….you are a “goner”! Google Ann Barnhardt and view her youtube videos. Google Bacha Bazi (boy play)! Learned about this from my son who spent two tours in Kandahar. According to him, if you put those afghan soldiers in a hab module(barracks) and turned out the lights within 30 minutes you would need a crowbar if you turned the lights on to do a head count!

    • Scott

      The problem is.. gays are asking for more rights then heterosexuals ask for or receive! Just look it up and you will see, compare the differences.

    • meteorlady

      No matter how many “rights” you give them, it will still not legitimize the lifestyle in my mind. They have legal rights, except marriage, they can do whatever, just don’t stick it in my face. I don’t like it, it goes against what I believe and it’s not natural. So call me a bigot if you’d like, but I do treat them with respect as human beings, I just don’t care to see or hear what they do in private.

      • Karolyn

        I have never seen anyone force what they do in private on me. You have?

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Still prevaricating.

        • gunner 689

          that’s because you’re blind.

      • http://deleted Claire

        meteorlady–I agree with your comments. I am around homosexuals frequently. I will be courteous, and I expect the same in return. However, I do not want their lifestyle shoved down my throat either. I do not want to hear about their escapades. I abhor the “Gay Parade.” I find it to be absolutely disgusting. If people choose to be gay, then have some class and conduct themselves with decorum.
        Regarding aid to homosexuals in foreign countries. Forget it. We can’t take care of our own chaos here in America. And we don’t have the money to take care of all these people in other countries. We have starving kids here–I have been plagued with organizations wanting donations for the kids in Kentucky. Come on, give me a break. I want my money to be spent on these kids, not the homosexuals. They chose their lifestyle, not me. Charity begins at home, especially for starving children and the honest poor.

        • Kevin

          Claire, did you reade the article? America is denying aid to countries who have oppressive policies towards homosexuals, we are not sending aid to homosexuals. So the policy would be saving money, not causing us to spend more.

      • smilee

        meteorlady says:
        December 8, 2011 at 12:19 pm

        You would not feel like it is being shoved in your face if you first did not shove you face in it, if you could live and let live it would not have any effect on you, Also why is it that so many gay teens agonized so much about their sexual orientation mostly due to people like you sticking your face in their life causing so much anguish they go out and kill themselves. Three gay teenagers in my area have done this in the last year because they were bullied about it and could not take it any more. My question if it is a choice why would they choose this lifestyle when it causes them so much pain. If you have not had those feelings you should not sit in judgment of theirs. I admire Kevin’s remarks on this thread he seems to be quite capable of dealing with the bigots here who are attacking him, too bad these teenagers were not that capable.

    • Lee Baldwin

      such as kissing and groping each other in public, Doc Sarvis???? I am sorry for being such a bigot, but my grandson will not be subject to that behavior. Militant gays REALLY try to show us their gayness and it simply has no place in our society. As far a rights go, gays already have the same rights as all. I also have rights to not be subjected to that.

      • Kevin

        Lee – I am a high school teacher and I can tell you that I have never in my career had to tell two gay students to stop making out. Not once. On the other hand, I constantly have to break up straight students from making out in the hallways, the courtyard, the cafeteria, and pretty much anywhere else they can think of. I have had to stop straight students from having sex on the stairs. Don’t even get me started on what it is like to chaperone a school dance, where the only dance the students seem to know is the dry hump. So don’t act like homosexual PDA’s are some sort of epidemic. They pale in comparison to heterosexual PDA’s.

        • moonbeam

          That’s nothing new, Kevin. Teens have been doing that for eons. Thank God they were male and female.

          • kevinnc

            So you’re ok with kids fornicating in public so long as they are heterosexual? What a good parent you must be.

    • JUKEBOX

      They do have the same rights as heterosexuals. A Gay man can legally marry a Gay woman, and a Gay woman can marry a Gay man. What more could they want?

      • kevinnc

        If only they placed an intelligence requirement on the ability to breed.

    • CherokeeDan

      Hey Doc, name one right homosexuals don’t have that everyone else does.

      • Kevin

        Marriage, adoption, joint tax returns

        • smilee

          Kevein

          I think in my state there are about 600 items that married people have that gays do not, including thse you mention

    • Ronald R. Johnson

      Yea Doc, and next you will be joining Obama, Michelle and Hillary and barney in trying to pass a law giving child molesters equal rights too and first shot at adopting children!

      • Kevin

        Not one of those people are trying to get child molesters any rights nor are homosexuals trying to get child molesters any rights.

  • rhcrest

    Next thing, we will be cutting off aid for countries that are unfriendly to pedophiles. The American Psychiatric Assn is looking to normalize pedophilia just like it did with homosexuality in the 70′s. After that it is just a slippery slope to bestiality, polygamy, incest, necrophilia and whatever other perversions people can think up. Why is homosexuality any different from these other perversions? It is not.

    • American Conservative

      I completely concur. Why is our government making decisions about where our taxes are spent for aid anyway? Taking our money from us and turning it into a homosex promotion tool is reprehensible. Who is Clinton to judge these countries’ mores anyway? She has discriminated against all these religions that ban it, and then said *they* don’t have the right to discriminate. How genuine of her, how humble and diplomatic, how beneficial to the empire.

      • Scott

        She needs to be tried for treason and then have her pie hole stapled shut.

      • Palin16

        What do you expect from the Hildebeast? When she attended Wesleyan College, an all girls school, she called it an eye opener. Why do ya think Bill had to look elsewhere, so frequently? Big mistake Bill, didn’t you ever have a heart to heart talk with her before strolling down the aisle? Now you’re stuck with a woman who thinks she’s a man.

        • Karolyn

          Why do you hate strong women, Palin? Are you one of those “Women should be home cooking and raising babies.” types of people?

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Karolyn… And exactly what is wrong with a woman staying home and raising babies? Does her choice not to work outside the home make her weak?

          • Palin16

            …loves strong women like Sarah Palin.

          • Kevin

            Robin, you are twisting Karolyn’s words, and you know it! Palin16′s comments suggest that women who are not in the home are somehow mannish and worthy of criticism. Karolyn’s response was asking if Palin16 believed that being in the home was the ONLY option for women.

          • Karolyn

            Robin – I was saying nothing against women who stay at home. I was challenging Palin’s post, which suggested that strong (Democratic) women were mannish – “Now you’re stuck with a woman who thinks she’s a man.” (referring to Hilary Clinton).

          • Nadzieja Batki

            One thing for sure is that those women are a lot smarter than you are,since in between the raising of children, cooking and cleaning,they find time to read and study and occupy their minds.

        • libertytrain

          I’m not a Hillary fan but unfortunately the fellow she married wasn’t much of a man.

          • gunner 689

            a match made in Hell.

      • saso

        Hillary could not even tell her hubby bubba about sex (Monica) now she is trying to tell countries what they should do ????
        Politicians r the lowest forms of life !!!
        What price do u put on ur sole !!!

    • eddie47d

      This has nothing to do with bestiality and pedophilia but I knew some of you would distort the issue. Typical extremism from the right.Looks like some of you love the Empire and our nation building. Maybe we never should of abolished slavery either. You know since the rest of the world was doing it at the time it must be okay! It’s time to set positive examples for all human rights and equality and that includes the equal treatment of homosexuals.Since some of you don’t want to be giving any foreign aid to any nation here is your opening. Do the right thing and practice what you preach in keeping our money at home.

    • Dave

      The homosexuals tend to be consenting adults. Not so for Pedophilia and other perversions.

      • rhcrest

        Really Dave? Did you know that there is a movement to make children have adult status when it comes to sex? And this would help on the path to normalizing pedophilia. There is a huge movement to normalize it and people may be shocked and disgusted by it but that is how people used to act towards homosexuals until we were all told that we needed to have mind and speech control through political correctness. People are looking to do the same exact thing with pedos – it’s just another lifestyle choice you know? The American Psychiatric assn even came up with a nice new PC term – Minor Attracted Individuals. Yup you aren’t supposed to call them freaks and perverts anymore which is what they are. And you can have incest with two consenting adults. An adult brother/sister combination or any other combination between relatives that you can think of. So why is that wrong and homosexuality is not? Because they can’t help it so that makes it right?

        • Robert Smith

          Looks to me like your post is another diaper load from the extreme right.

          Here is a reference3 I’ve found: “The American Psychiatric Association states that “children cannot consent to sexual activity with adults”, and condemns any such action by an adult: “An adult who engages in sexual activity with a child is performing a criminal and immoral act which never can be considered normal or socially acceptable behavior.”[21]

          Wikipedia’s cited reference: ^ “APA Letter to the Honorable Rep. DeLay (R-Tx)” (Press release). American Psychological Association. June 9, 1999. Archived from the original on October 10, 1999. http://web.archive.org/web/19991010055703/http://www.apa.org/releases/delay.html. Retrieved 2009-03-08.

          Rob

          • Chewinmule

            Did you happen to attend the “conference” of like minded “minor attracted persons” held in Baltimore just recently……….. they are gearing up to do the same thing done back in the ’70s when they decided to stop calling you fudge packers sick. You people can pack hot coals up yer arse, stick anything in your face, drag your Freud toy through any and every ditch on the planet, and bury yer face in warm feces and I personally don’t care. I ain’t payin for it and condoning it as normal behavior. Just one old mans opinion.

          • Karolyn

            Chewin – Yet another example of the intellect of the far right! And they’re proud of it!

        • Kevin

          Homosexuals are not a part of the movement to normalize pedophilia. Homosexuals find pedophilia just as repulsive as everyone else. It is highly unlikely that the age of consent will be lowered or that pedophilia will ever be considered normal, since it lacks the option for consent on the part of the child. So your argument is highly flawed.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Kevin… I have read many of your posts and I don’t hate gay people. However, I do think you need to turn your life over to the Lord and ask Him what His will is for your life. I am sure you will think I am a Jesus Freak, but I just look at myself as a saved person, by God’s Grace. I am no better than anyone else, but I know where I am going to spend eternity. The gay lifestyle is a sinful lifestyle in God’s eyes. He’s the only one you need be concerned about. Humans can be cruel and hurtful. God is not. He wants you to come to Him.

          • Kevin

            Robin – I live a good, honest life. I work hard, have a committed and loving relationship, and help out in the community. I do my best to help out my fellow man.

            I may not be a perfect man, but I AM a good man. I am not worried about how I will be judged when my time comes to stand before God.

          • Chewinmule

            You are soooooo right, Nancy. Gay people aren’t pedophiles but “minor attracted persons” and pretty soon we will all be led to believe they are born that way. Let’s just ask Larry Sandusky. The secret is if you can say you were always attracted to little boys and girls, even as a “two year old”, you can’t help it and should be treated the same as everyone else as you come slidin into home on the coat tails of the LBGTMAP coalition!

          • kevinnc

            So you want to use Larry Sandusky, a man who has been married to a WOMAN for decades as your example of how homosexuals are a threat to children? He must have skipped a few of the gay meetings if he thinks that being married to a woman and having children with her is the best way to be a homosexual.

            FYI – the majority of pedophiles target young girls. Girls are molested three times as often as boys are. Feel free to look that up.

    • Robert Smith

      Hey rechrest…

      You posted: “The American Psychiatric Assn is looking to normalize pedophilia…”

      Do you have a citation on that? I flat out don’t believe you.

      Rob

    • Kevin

      Homosexuality is different because it involves two consenting adult human beings. Your other examples, by definition, lack the consent of one of the parties.

      • rhcrest

        Does polygamy and incest between two adults in the same family mean that one of the parties is not old enough to consent? Nope

        • Robert Smith

          If two christians get a divorce in Arkansas is she still his sister?

          Rob

          • Chewinmule

            Oh, I don’t know. Ask one of FDR’s kids how that works. After all, his mother was his daddy’s cousin. Maybe that isn’t going to work. Eleanor was only FDR’s second cousin. Does that qualify as incest…..anyone…..anyone…..Buehler…..Buehler?

          • libertytrain

            oh dear rob. You are so classless but a good example of what you accuse others of doing.

    • JUKEBOX

      AGAIN, I say history repeats itself. The Greek and Roman Empires were both decimated due to their tolerance of homosexual behavior.

      • moonbeam

        Yep. God burned down Sodom and Gomorrah because of it.

      • Karolyn

        BS! One of the biggest reasons for the fall of the Roman Empire was their farming methods depleted the soil, so they ran out of food. Why do you think crops are so limited in Italy?

    • Ronald R. Johnson

      Well said and right on the money too! Don’t you agree DOC!!!

  • Donnie Ayers

    YOY MAY AS WELL GET READY FOR YOUR JUDGEMET…FOR THE LORD WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS KIND OF TRASH.

    • wally stewart

      AMEN

    • Disgusted

      Amen.
      Lev. 18:22, “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”1
      Lev. 20:13, “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them”
      1 Cor. 6:9-10, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
      Rom. 1:26-28, “For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper.”

      • eddie47d

        God gave us the ability to accept or reject his laws. If homosexuality is wrong the gays will suffer in the end of times.That is also God’s judgement not yours. Now how many here are adulterers or fornicators? Raise your hands! How many have ever stolen(thieves)? Hands please! How many have been drunk? Please raise those hands!How about swindlers? Now Wall Street is full of them and since millions of Americans gained wealth through these swindles then those folks need to raise their hands up really high. God also said to love your neighbor as yourself and that includes all your neighbors. I’m aware that we all have failings and yet we must all try and be as moral as possible. We can all be moral without casting all these first stones or practice “judge not least you be judged”. Be kind and accepting to all and let God sort out those he won’t approve of.

        • Karolyn

          How many have homosexual tendencies that they would NEVER acknowledge? If everyone was REALLY honest, they would see that everyone has those tendencies (however minute), especially women. People who are so indoctrinated into Christianity that they cannot even conceive of that being possible are not being honest with themselves. Of course, that does not make everyone gay, but it does make everyone human. And, if people want to be dishonest with themselves, that’s their business; but they should not cast stones at others for being who they truly are. Do they ever stop and think how much courage it takes to admit to being gay? How strong they are? No, all they can think about is sex and how limp-wristed they are.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          eddie… All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. No matter how much you try, you can never be good enough. God knows this. God loves gay people as much as anyone else. He sees your heart and He wants people who know they are sinning to stop sinning and repent. The gay lifestyle is sin, nothing more, nothing less.

        • Ronald R. Johnson

          OK Eddie and will you now admit you and Doc will probably be at the head of the line with Obama,Hillary and Barney when it’s time for you and all those kind to jump into the fire?

      • texastwin827

        The bible also says “judge not, least you be judged”. While I am a Christian, I do not feel any of us have the right to judge homosexuals.

        I hate it when people use portions of the bible, without considering that there are other portions that are in direct conflict with what they have quoted.

        In the end, God will decide, not humans.

        • JUKEBOX

          You are not supposed to judge the homosexual, but you are supposed to detest their ways, the same as you would detest a thief, murderer, or someone who practiced bestiality. DISPUTE THAT!

          • kevinnc

            Dispute that? Do you actually think you have a valid argument?

        • Ronald R. Johnson

          Who is judging? It seems people are only pointing out what God said is wrong and using the brains god gave them to know it’s sick and wrong and that they should point it out so good people don’t get sucked in to their sick ways! God is doing the judging and people are just pointing out what god will be judging as sick and wrong!

          • Kevin

            I’d hate to see how you sound when you are judging.

      • Robert Smith

        Hi Disgusted, how the heck are you?

        I can see how your interpritations of your brutal christian bible are taken literally by you when it comes to gays.

        Why aren’t you picketing McDonald’s? They are extreme in their efforts with bacon and cheeseburgers… In fact Burger King puts both bacon and cheese on their burgers.

        WHY ARE YOU NOT SLAMMING THEM?

        Really, there are people who eat bacon for breakfast. That is outlawed in Leviticus 11:17, and Deuteronomy 14:8.

        A rare steak for supper, which is outlawed in Leviticus 17:10-14, and cheeseburgers for lunch, which is outlawed in Exodus 23:19, Exodus 34:26, and Deuteronomy 14:21 (this must mean that cheeseburgers are three times as sinful as gay sex since the former is mentioned thrice).

        I’m not even going to get into that mixed fabric thing. What are YOU wearing now?

        So, when you are objecting to ALL the brutal stuff that Americans do that is allegedly in your “christian” bible then you might have some credibility when you rant against gays.

        Until then I’m concluding that you are USING that brutal christian bible babble to support your own fear and hate of gays. Quite frankly I’m going to find it interesting when you actually meet your maker and what your god will think about your actions.

        Rob

        • JUKEBOX

          The laws laid out in Leviticus about eating pork was intended as a law to keep the Jewish people healthy, since pigs carried so much disease, just like so many homosexuals carry AIDS.

          • kevinnc

            So by that logic we shouldn’t eat homosexuals?

          • Brad

            You do on a daily basis, admittidly you are gay and you eat other homosexuals…

        • Ronald R. Johnson

          Robert, you are one really sick PIG! Since Barney Frank is retiring and Boy friend less and will have a lot of time on his hands, I bet he would love to have you around to POKE AT! I’ve seen some really sick pigs on here but U sure move to the head of the line!

          • Robert Smith

            Watch out for those blended fibers!

            Guess you shouldn’t eat them either.

            Rob

        • http://deleted Claire

          Robert Smith—Back at you with the last sentence of your post.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Robert Smith–My reply is aimed at your post 12-8-11 at 11:04 a.m.

          • libertytrain

            Claire, good point. I believe he some sort of “problem” —

      • JUKEBOX

        Even the Moslems believe in these scriptures.

      • moonbeam

        A cold hard truth that cannot be argued with.

  • Donnie Ayers

    YOU MAY AS WELL GET READY FOR JUDGEMENT…FOR THE LORD WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS KIND OF TRASH.

    • JON

      I agree! God won’t put up with all the ignorant & hateful people in the world like many on here!

      • JUKEBOX

        If that were so, the billions of anti-semite Moslems would be eradicated in a heartbeat. The Devil is alive and well today.

  • Maranatha

    Just One More Step
    I am not surprised that America now is leading the way to pushing for one more issue that isn’t America’s business and is anti Christianity and Anti God.The lessons we fail to learn are the lessons of history. Alas Babylon, we march onward to self destruction. Be not deceived, God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. He that soweth to destruction shall reap destruction. The man running this administration and his crony crowd is sowing for us a total downfall of our nation. The end result is destruction. Maranatha, He cometh!

    • Karolyn

      The downfall of our nation will come from those who contribute to the overall negative, hateful, angry, greedy, power-hungry, selfish complexion of this country.

      • Lost in Paradise

        Do you believe in GOD, and the Bible?

        • 45caliber

          She does not believe in the Bible or the God told about in it. She has her own god and religion.

          • Karolyn

            45 – I don’t have my “own” god. I believe in a Universal Intelligence/Higher Power that is not able to be explained easily. I believe that we are all part of God/the whole. God experiences life through us. Read “Conversations with God” to understand what I believe. How can God be a “he?” I also believe that the Bible has some good lessons; however, much of it is over-simplified by the most recognised interpretations.

          • 45caliber

            Karolyn:

            Just as I said ….

          • Robert Smith

            45 syas: “She has her own god and religion.”

            And ain’t it great in America where she can!

            America sure is a great country, even though some in it are jackasses.

            Rob

          • Nadzieja Batki

            45 caliber, I would say that she has made up a god in her own image and if that isn’t it,she believes that everyday and everyway she is getting better and better and it won’t be long till she reaches godhood.

          • JUKEBOX

            Karolyn is alive and well in some kind of parrallel universe!

          • Karolyn

            Nadzieja, 45 & Juke – (especially Nad & Juke) Why do you find it necessary to bait people? Do you do that to people you meet who have opposing views? Make fun of them? Gang up on them? Bully them? Do you teach your kids to bully gays? What else would they do if they read what goes on here? You seem to get such glee out of it. Really, can you tell me why?

          • Robert Smith

            Karolyn asks: “(especially Nad & Juke) Why do you find it necessary to bait people? ”

            It is part of their extreme brutal christian right wing initiation.

            If they are able to bait enough and get their desired responses they will be raised to the rank of Master Baiters.

            Rob

          • libertytrain

            Oh rob, you are the chief operating officer in baiting with poison bait so I guess you do know about this kind of thing

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Instead of throwing out a net and hoping to catch something, why don’t you start naming the people that you have something against? Probably it is the majority of the people on this site who don’t follow your philosophy.

      • Ronald R. Johnson

        She seems like another real sick Puppy! Sorry to insult the puppy!

    • eddie47d

      Maranatha; Since we have invaded the region of Babylon and laid waste and death then we shall indeed have the same wrought down upon us. Does that mean other administrations will feel that wrath with greater intensity for flaunting our nations values by escalating unwanted wars?

    • Robert Smith

      Maranatha says: “Be not deceived, God is not mocked,…”

      No, but it sure is fun to point out the garbage some of his alleged followers who are abusing his words are spewing.

      Why aren’t you picketing Burger King? Bacon and cheese on a burger! My my how sinful.

      Understand why you are so easy to mock? YOU spout off and are hateful towards gays but McDonald’s gets off.

      It’s fun to watch your lame double standard being used as an excuse for hate.

      Does your christian god really want you to hate so much?

      Rob

      • Maranatha

        Rob,
        For one to judge the thoughts and values of another it would be wise to first know what one is talking about. In Actas Peter was faced with a sheet full of all manner of food types that were generally disgusting to the Hebrews. But Christ, GOD, Himself commanded Peter to eat of the food there. The purpose of that was to show Peter that God’s great salvation was not just for the Israelite but was for Gentiles as well. You say some of God’s followers, me, are spewing out garbage. I do not think it garbage to warn folks like you that there is a day coming. God will not be mocked. Those who ignor, despise or even hate Him will have to answer for rejecting the greatest gift on earth, His Salvation through Christ!

  • AJ

    It’s probably because of his past see this article written by an ex IRS investigator….very interesting about Mr. Obama. Below is a copy
    of Post by Rick Perry on April 1, 2011 at 6:30am

    Obama may have a criminal past…

    This is an article written by an ex IRS investigator….very interesting.
    Trump is correct, Barry Soetoro, AKA Obama is hiding something in his past that is very bad… and it may not be his citizenship. (Trump would not say this if he did not know something, and he has the money to get the dirt….)
    As an IRS tax examiner, one of many former federal jobs, I have seen what it appears Barry Soetoro has done; mostly by illegal aliens attempting to acquire a new identity in the U.S and/or criminals looking to acquire a new ID.

    Barry, AKA Obama, was lawfully adopted by a foreign national, Lolo Soetoro, and Barry’s name was legally changed to “Barry Soetoro”. (Barry’s own admission) Barry Soetoro was also made an official legal Indonesian citizen. (again Barry’s own admission) The adoption would be noted in Barry’s vital statistics record in Hawaii on his original birth certificate…OR Lolo Soetoro may have always been Barry’s legal birth farther. The public does not know for sure at this point who Barry’s father really was and Barry himself may not know.

    Barry was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia and attended a Catholic funded school that permitted all faiths to attend.

    Barry’s mother dropped him as a dependent for some reason, maybe even when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. His mother’s passport records dropped Barry as a dependent indicating Barry was no longer a legal dependent of his mothers. (The passport records of his mother have been produced showing Barry was no longer a dependent when Barry was permanently residing in Indonesia.) Barry went to Hawaii to live with his alleged grandparents after Lolo Soetoro and Barry’s mother divorced.

    A “certificate of live birth” can have names changed on it including a child’s birth name, and birth parent’s names. Even a modified date of birth can be on a “certificate of live birth”. This occurs frequently for adopted children where the birth parent does not want the child to know who they are. The public has no idea who Barry’s real birth father is or who Barry’s real birth mother is. (Barry could have been adopted by his mother) The original birth certificate is the only legal vital statistics record of a person’s birth parents, birth location, birth date, etc… I can get a “certificate of live birth” for a dead person; I cannot get a birth certificate of a dead person without “Deceased” on it. (I’ve tried)
    There is no evidence Barry Soetoro ever lawfully changed his name to “Barrack Hussein Obama”. There is no proof Barry Soetoro was born with the name “Barrack Hussein Obama”. I’m willing to bet the name “Barrack Hussein Obama” is not present on the real birth certificate as Barry’s birth name or as Barry’s birth father. I have pictures of me with my mother and Jimmy Buffet… that doesn’t make him my father even if I start using the name Jimmy Buffet.

    The public knows Barry Soetoro finished high school in Hawaii as Barry Soetoro and attended Occidental as Barry Soetoro where he did drugs and flunked out of school. After dropping out of Occidental, Barry showed up in New York, homeless and on drugs. (Barry’s own admission) Barry then hooked up with a Pakistani to live with and traveled back to Indonesia on his new boyfriend’s dime to renew his Indonesian passport and traveled to Pakistan with him.

    Ask any law enforcement officer in a large city or detective and they will tell you homeless young men on drugs in large cities usually end up as male prostitutes. Barry ended up as a world traveler with a degree… (Not likely)
    Barry Soetoro returned to New York from Pakistan and began using the fictitious name “Obama” for some reason. (Again Barry Soetoro’s own admission) One could only suspect that a person addicted to drugs returning from Pakistan to New York, the main route for Afghan heroin into the U.S. , maybe Barry had a reason to start using a new name. There are literally over 1 million open warrants on file in New York … maybe Barry is one of them?

    After spending some time in New York allegedly working under the name “Obama”, it appears Barry used the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” for the first time to file his federal taxes in Connecticut at a Post Office Box for the purpose of evading paying taxes in New York and /or to establish a new identity. (This is a felony with no statute of limitation.)

    When the IRS received Barry Soetoro’s federal tax filing, the IRS could not attach the name Barrack Hussein Obama to the SSI number provided or the address provided. So the IRS assigned the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” a tax ID number for a person from Connecticut (Where Barry unlawfully filed a federal tax form using a false name). Barry Soetoro began using the tax ID number as his SSI number when using the fictitious name Barrack Obama. This is why Barry Soetoro has a Connecticut SSI number. When I worked for the IRS, I saw this occur more than once and yes, it is a felony to knowingly file a fraudulent federal tax forms. Most of the politicians that cheat on their taxes claim it was an accident. That is how they get away with their tax cheat crimes. Using a fake name is no accident.

    It appears Barry fled New York to Chicago using his new identity to get a job. He likely ordered a fake diploma to bolster his new identity as “Obama”. Fake Diploma’s were very big in the 80′s and diploma mills were even being used by federal workers to get promotions. There is evidence his alleged attendance at Columbia was faked (Barry never attended Columbia) and Barry lied his way into Harvard (he had no transcripts to get in)… Including telling the Saudi royal family he was fighting in Afghanistan with the Muslim Jihad against the Russians, so they would help him get into a law school.

    The Saudi’s apparently loved Barry’s story of Jihad in Pakistan/Afghanistan and paid for Barry to attend Harvard under the name “Obama”. The Saudi family has admitted to paying for Obama to attend Harvard and gave Harvard a gift of $20 million dollars. Harvard in turn made their special attendee President of the law review; a person that never wrote a single law review…. I guess that is what $20 million buys at Harvard.

    It is unlikely Barry was a Jihadist and was most likely a drug mule if anything, maybe even a CIA street hire to haul Afghan heroin back to New York, so the Afghans could buy U.S. made stinger missiles with U.S. dollars to shoot down Russian helicopters? I hired people overseas to do work below my pay grade all the time, even foreign nationals. I think this is the story Barry told the Saudi’s, but he was most likely really just a drug mule/dealer and probably still wanted on an outstanding warrant in New York.

    Barry’s selective service registration is not normal either…http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in…
    After I looked at Barry’s selective service filing I noticed it was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used. Barry did not start using the name “Obama” until he returned from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in California) His selective service record (maintained in Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian post office as “Obama” in Sept 1980… Problem: Barry was getting high in California at Occidental in Sept 1980 (Barry’s own admission) and was not using the fictitious name “Obama” at that time. Barry began using the fictitious name “Obama” only after he returned from Pakistan. The selective service filing is fraudulent.
    NEW NOTE – On the Selective Service Registration, Barry did not have the Connecticut Tax ID number he used on the Registration until after he began using the name “Obama” in New York. More evidence his Selective Service filing is fraudulent.

    Barry returned to Chicago and attend a semi-Christian radical black church with his first female love Michelle. Barry admits keeping in touch with Phil Boener, who traveled to New York from Occidental to be with Barry, and was most likely Barry’s first love.

    Barry still could not get a real job, because he was still a fraud, even with his Harvard degree in hand he could lie and take the Bar exam, but he could not work as a lawyer for a major law firm without a back ground investigation and he would never pass one. So, Michelle got Barry a job at her law firm. Barry never filed a case alone and never filed a motion. He wrote most of memos according to the law firm where Barry worked. (I think they know Barry is a fraud and don’t want to be sued by previous clients) Barry rescinded his law licenses, so as not to be disbarred for fraud. The Bar knows Barry lied on his application. Michelle also had to turn over her law license for her involvement in corruption with the Chicago mayor’s office.

    With time on his hands Barry, a well spoken black man, was able to get elected to a state office, oddly because he looked for fraud in his opponent’s voter registrations and got his opponent disqualified from running. Barry a well versed liar was a natural in state politics. He used his political influence to get himself a position as a lecturer at Chicago’s law school. Barry embellished this position as a “professor of law” which everyone knows is completely false. Barry was not a professor or even a specialist at anything but lying.

    On a whim Barry ran for United States Senate for the State of Illinois. Politicians do this all the time to make a name for them even if they can’t win. At the time the Republican Ryan was a shoe in for the Senate seat, so no real Democrat contenders entered the race, but Barry did. On a fluke after the primary Ryan’s wife Jeri Ryan (Seven of nine from Star Trek) went public that her husband was making her have sex with other people while he watched. Ryan dropped out and Alan Keys moved from Maryland to run against Barry Soetoro.

    The election got all kinds of press because there were no blacks in the U.S. Senate and one of these black men was going to be a Senator. Alan Keys did his best to warn everyone Barry was not who he claimed to be, but the public saw him as a carpet bagger. Barry kept the lie going and presented himself as a clean black man that talked like a white man… Illinois elected Barry to U.S. Senate. The Democrats had already begun scrubbing Barry’s back ground when Ryan dropped out.

    Phil, Barry’s boy friend from Occidental, was found working in California as a communications specialist (receptionist) for a dental hygienist school and given a diploma from Columbia and cover story. The rest of Barry’s drug friends were all given jobs or money by the Democrat machine to keep quiet.

    Because Barry was such a news maker as the only Black in the Senate, and he could speak like a white man he was made key speaker for the Democrat convention. Barry then decided to run for President to keep the lie going. No one thought to question Barry’s back ground in the Democrat party… They helped cover up the ugly back ground. The only person jumping up and down warning Barry was not who he claimed to be was Alan Keys and he was discarded as just an angry loser.

    Now we have a complete fraud sitting in the Office of the President. Clearly the most corrupt, inexperienced, and ignorant President in the history of the United States who’s only quality is that he can lie with a straight face. Barry Soetoro is as much of a fraud as Bernie Madoff, and his house of cards will soon fall down.

    (We hope!)

    • Lisa

      WOW!Well said sir or lady!That nicely puts an order to all the pieces.

    • Dave

      That is one big piece of radical neo-con propaganda . Another totally fabricated story to fuel the fire.

      • Brad

        Dave,

        Can you disprove the story, if not zip it!!!

      • Doug

        Really Dave it’s the Right Wing right Dave. I think you better do a little investagating Obozo ran against a Democrate that had 80% approval in Chicago then he and the Democrates found away to remove him and other from the primary elections it out there if you look. I think once this fraud it put in the spot light all of you who doubt that he is a illegal allien and not a natural US citizen should be put in those camps because we really have to many dumb people alive and well in the good old USA!

      • http://personalLiberty uptodate

        A J said the article was written by an ex-IRS investigator. The truth hurts.

        • Robert Smith

          Does he have a name? She, maybe?

          I think it’s just another made up right wing screed and urban myth.

          Can you cite one talk show this person was on? Surely such “important” information would be getting some attention.

          Rob

          • Brad

            RS then prove the auther wrong with some link or proof that its made up, if you can’t put up then shut up….

          • Robert Smith

            I don’t need to prove such a screed wrong. It has no support onto itself and it is clearly a collection of lies.

            Rob

    • rhcrest

      That was an excellent summary. I think there is more to it though and i think it is complicated as to filling in the gaps in his life like how did he get that scholarship at Occidental etc. I don’t think the truth will come out until we are all long gone and none of it matters anymore. If people realized how much they were deceived by this fraud there would be riots in the streets.

  • dg

    U.S. needs to stop trying to force American values on other countries. Allow them the freedom of their own beliefs. And, stop using foreign aid as bribery. Use it, if we must, only to support our allies. Oh yeah, our real allies don’t need it.

    • eddie47d

      OH Please! Those on the right constantly mock and ridicule our allies in Europe.( for many years) We always tell them we don’t like them but then expect them to support our wars. Everything is a dog and pony show.

  • Bob

    Now we are the morality cops for the rest of the world?
    I, for one, think we should refuse aid to any country supporting a gay lifestyle.
    I refuse to believe that being gay is anything to be proud of and should be eradicated instead of tolerated. I mean; How can a man look at another mans hairy ass and fall in love?
    Gays have been around forever. Why all the hubbub now?

    • Karolyn

      If you will notice, most gay men are not that hairy! Why do you think that is? That their mother did not have enough testosterone during gestation? That has been posed as a possible scenario and certainly makes a lot of sense. BUT – sense and logic are usually not used here when discussing homosexuality, only emotion and religion.

      • GDC

        That IS a LIE! A great majority of homosexual men are very hairy NO ONE is born a homosexual. That has been proven over and over again. All the “research” that has been done to support the LIE that homosexuals are born that way has been falsified.

        • CP

          Sir, your remarks brand you as gay as any of the people you claim to hate. Many a closet gay has been far more vicious to his or her outed brethren than the most fierce of normal public speakers.

        • Dave

          That is another lie. There is no proof that is 100%. If there was it would be harder to believe. I don’t judge and do not care if your particular manner in life is different. That is what makes the world so glorious.

        • Karolyn

          It has most certainly NOT been proven! Where on earth do you get your information? Do a little research before making such pronouncements.

        • Robert Smith

          From CDC: “NO ONE is born a homosexual.”

          Really? When did you CHOOSE to be a heterosexual?

          Oh, you just are that way! Well… It’s the same for gays.

          Your god made ‘em that way.

          Who would choose to be rediculed and hated so much as you hate gays?

          Rob

          • rhcrest

            In case you didnt notice homosexuality goes against nature. Heterosexuality produces precious babies. Homosexuality produces nothing but death and disease. Men and women fit together, men and men just don’t and that’s a fact. The anus is meant for waste products not a pen is!

          • Kevin

            I am a homosexual and I have not produced death or disease. I guess I must be doing it wrong.

        • smilee

          rhcrest says:
          December 8, 2011 at 12:54 pm

          There is an awful lot of anal and oral sex between a man and a woman, do you think they are diseased too. Have you ever engaged in anal or oral sex??? I betting most on here at one time or another have tried one of them.

      • Lost in Paradise

        You must be joking! How many hairy men do you really know these days?

      • Believer

        Karolyn, rejecting God is choosing evil. Please get to know your Holy Father who loves you and is the source of all love, joy, and peace.

        • Karolyn

          I love God as I understand it/He/She and I love all mankind. I do not cast aspersions on others and offer hatred in lieu of love as I so often see Christians doing; and, in so doing, keep the hatred, wars, bullying, abuse, etc. going.

          • rhcrest

            God hates the sin, not the sinner.

    • wally stewart

      LOOK AT THE BRIGHTER SIDE THEY DONT REPRODUCE

      • Robert Smith

        But Dick Chaney and his wife produced a gay kid.

        How do you explain that?

        Rob

    • eddie47d

      You all should have paid attention to Bob’s double talk. “It’s all no big deal but they should be eradicated”. No human should be eradicated just for being different than the majority.

    • Lisa

      I’m in love with a real hairy straight man. Tell me what does that make him?

    • Kevin

      I don’t know how love works for you, maybe the only thing you love about your wife is her tits, but I fall in love with a person. Homosexuality is not all about about sex. It is about love.

  • GDC

    Homosexuality IS a mental sickness and ALL homosexuals ARE mentally sick, psychotic. They should NOT get any special rights and special rights IS what they want. They want the right to rape children, have sex any place they want (that means in parks in front of children, in school bathrooms, in hospitals). The “I just want to marry the person and “persons” (plural) I love” is just another scam. First it is NOT love. It IS perverted sick sex. They want the right to spread HIV without punishment. Wait they do that now. 72% either do not know they have HIV or don’t care about spreading it.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I would love to see documentation on any/all of the allegations you are making above. Just Ridiculous.

      • 45caliber

        Read the news. Look up the stories yourself. I see no reason to waste my time when the stories are there if you wish to find them.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Answer – NO Credible information to back these allegations.

          • Opal the Gem

            just like you never have any documentation to back up your claims huh doc.

          • Doc Sarvis

            opal the gem,
            That is really not true. You may not have seen all my posts, and I don’t always provide links, but when it is relevant to my argument I usually do back it up with links.

          • eddie47d

            Opal loves to demand proof but never brings any to the table. What a hypocrite.

      • Dave

        Worse than ridiculous. Over the top zealot with their eyes closed. What an idiotic world he lives in.

    • Karolyn

      People like you are the reason for hate crimes, bullying, and teen homosexual suicide. You know NOTHING but what you hear from those who agree with you. Why not try opening your mind a little more to the TRUTH! How about homosexuals who live together without having sex? They are just like old married hetero couples. Everybody forgets about them being human beings who just want to live good lives and have loving partners. You are all fixated on SEX! They are NOT all out there having sex everywhere. There is a wide cross-section of gays just like there is a wide cross-section of heteros, and you cannot judge a whole segment of the population by the actions of the few.

      • Brad

        Karolyn,

        It’s people like you who don’t see that hate comes in all shape’s, color’s and forms no matter their political or religious afiliation, open your eye’s Karolyn before blaming someone for their beliefs.

    • eddie47d

      GDC has the mental and psychotic problem and is a danger to himself and maybe others. You’d be a great rack master during the Spanish Inquisition.

      • Brad

        We already know you are a danger to yourself and others, Eddie.

      • eddie47d

        Your as perverted as GDC Mr Brad.

        • Brad

          Eddie you keep on proving our point…

        • eddie47d

          Troll on Brad!

    • Michael

      I’m a man who is gay, not a gay man.

      Your statements have no rational basis! You’re more than likely not a highly educated & professional psychologist.

      First off – I have never ever wanted special rights! Just equal ones! I still don’t know what this “Gay Agenda” is that everyone keeps talking about.

      Your statement saying that: “”Homosexuality IS a mental sickness and ALL homosexuals ARE mentally sick, psychotic”” – is another totally inaccurate statement!

      Your statement saying that:
      “”They want the right to rape children, have sex any place they want (that means in parks in front of children, in school bathrooms, in hospitals).”” – I don’t know where learned that. You seem to have a sick and uneducated view of world! I feel that anyone who would EVER hurt a child should have the hell beat out of them (literally) and put in prison!

      Your statement saying that: “”The “I just want to marry the person and “persons” (plural) I love” is just another scam. First it is NOT love. It IS perverted sick sex.”” – is another totally inaccurate statement!

      Love IS love! I’ve been with the my best friend for 17 years in a monogamous relationship and married for 5 years (thank you Canada). Our lives, like yours, are not based on sex! Lift your mind to a higher place and allow yourself to get educated on what is really and truthfully going on in the world.

      Your statement saying that: “”They want the right to spread HIV without punishment. Wait they do that now. 72% either do not know they have HIV or don’t care about spreading it.”” – Another statement where you don’t know what the f**k you’re talking about. Please pull your head out of the “ignorant sand” and learn the reality of actuality, not the twisted facts that you seem to believe.

      What you think you know about gay people is wrong and misguided! Allow yourself to realize you have been fed so many inaccuracies and misnomers when it comes to a segment of society. As with all people, straight or gay, you have to see a person for their character and not what you assume about them. Open your heart and the mind will follow.

      I wish you and yours a Blessed and Happy Holiday Season!
      PEACE!

    • Robert Smith

      CDC states about gays: “The “I just want to marry the person and “persons” (plural) I love””

      How many wives did Soloman have?

      Rob

    • Kevin

      The mentally sick one is you! Not one of those things is true.

    • rhcrest

      I agree GDC.

  • Lost in Paradise

    THis sounds more like world domination, and sounds like Hillary is sticking up for Bill. I’am also very tired of everyone abusing the word “gay” and should be calling them “queer”

    • Michael

      Nope! It’s gay! Queer is something like you!

    • Kevin

      World domination? By advocating for gay rights? Yeah, that’s the way to control the world. Advocate for less than 5% of the population and the world will be yours. What an ingenious plan! You have it all figured out! I have no idea how you figure Bill Clinton has anything to do with this, either. But facts and logic don’t seem to be necessary in your world.

  • http://liberyalearts john p.

    WHY IS IT ALL THE GOOD OLD BOY’S AND GIRL’S IN CONGRESS TRY
    TO RULE OTHER COUNTRY’S . THEY CAN’T EVEN TAKE CARE OF THIS
    COUNTRY. BUT THEY DO NO HOW TO EMBEZZLE OUR MONEY LIKE OUR
    SOCIAL SECURITY FOR THERE OWN PERSONAL GAIN .THIS GOT TO STOP
    GIVING OUR MONEY AWAY LIKE THEY DO .THEN THEY SAY THERE OUR FRIENDS
    YA”THEN THEY KILL US . CONGRESS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING THIS
    ILLEGAL TERRORIST PERSON IN THE WHITE HOUSE .BE FOR THE ELECTIONS.

    • wally stewart

      AMEN MY HATS OFF TO YOU SIR

    • wally stewart

      I HAVE ALWYS RFEFERRED TO HIM AS THE FRAUD N CHIEF

  • Helen2

    Karolyn: Emotion and religion are used when discussing homosexuality because everyone is tired of it being rammed down our throats. We are forced to accept their perverted lifestyle whether we approve or not. Just because something makes “sense” doesn’t mean it is true. If you want to be a homosexual, do it quietly and leave the rest of us alone. We don’t tell you what we do in our bedrooms and we don’t want to know what you do in yours. How can you say they are born that way when there are many many people who are no longer homosexuals? You won’t find stories of it in the news, because it is politically correct to believe they can’t help their perversion. I personally know of several men who are now married with families and are happy they found Jesus to help them straighten out their lives and I really don’t care if you believe it or not. I know it’s true and they all said that it was a choice they made and they were happier when they made the choice to go back to being straight. It’s this kind of pressure from the news media and the left that causes people to use emotion when discussing this particular problem. But beyond all this I’m not unhappy they are cutting foreign aid to these countries. Mainly because we don’t need to be giving foreign aid to anyone when we are next door to bankrupt. Also, all the countries are Muslim and they don’t like us anyway and why should we give foreign aid to our enemies?

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you.

    • Karolyn

      Most men who say they have “changed” are just fooling themselves and live inauthentic lives just to please others. I don’t care what they say; if they “were” homosexual, they still are! Why should someone change who and what they are for someone else? They are not forcing their lifestyle on anyone, just seeking equality given who they are. If you don’t care what they do, why does it bother you so much?

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        But if they are hetro they are also only fooling themselves, right? If they say they are now hetro, why doubt them?

        Actually if a gay person keeps to himself, I don’t care one way or another. I don’t even care if they get the tax breaks, etc. that the married couples do. What I do object to is their insistence on my approving of what they do (I don’t but I can ignore it) and that my religion must also approve of what they do.

      • Brad

        O.K. Karolyn,

        Then why is the state of California forcing schools to teach that homosexual lifestyle is O.K. from grades K-12??? Whay are other schools firing teachers who voice opposition to the homosexual lifestyle???

        • Karolyn

          Actually, poor education is the root of so many of our problems. If children are educated that we are all human beings, no matter what our sexual preference, religion, etc. maybe we can get along a little better. Bullying is a really serious problem in this country. Have you not heard of the teenagers killing themselves because they are gay and bullied into feeling that death is the only solution? That is sad, and what is more sad is that the bullies’ parents support the bigotry. Maybe if they are taught the truth in school, we won’t have so much hate in this world. As it is, the only way they find out about homosexuality is if they are gay or listening to the radical views of peers and parents. Children brought up by gays are very well-rounded, loving human beings. Can’t say as much for a lot of kids brought up by supposedly loving hetero parents.

          • Greg

            That’s just plain stupid and liberal. SB 48 takes away parent’s rights. Get a grip. You’re over the top with liberalism.

    • eddie47d

      What Helen said about people changing is true but there is also those who have been married with children who leave their spouse to be in a homosexual relationship. Because that is what they felt during all those years of marriage.Individuals know who they are (yet hide their true feelings)because of the pressures put on them from society. Those feeling can go both ways. Considering that Americans have about a 50% divorce rate even heterosexuals can’t even get it right. It’s a much harder decision for a homosexual to “come out of the closet” because of all the negative stigma surrounding such a move.

    • Michael

      Answer me something. Who has personally rammed the gay agenda as you say “down your throat”? Has your life changed? Has your family changed? Has your job changed? has your church changed? Has your marriage changed? More than likely NOT!

      • 45caliber

        Michael:

        But when they insist that they have the right to teach my kids that gay sex is acceptable and that they should try it, then they are certainly infringing on my own rights! Just as they are when they insist that my religion must change, despite what the Bible says, to accept them.

        Personally, I think all the vocal, politicial ones should go change the Muslim world first. Then, when they finish, I’ll be happy to listen to them.

        • Kevin

          You are so full of it. There is no school sex ed program that is encourgaging students to have sex of any kind. If you honestly believe that schools are telling students to go out and give homosexuality a try, then you are a truly gullible idiot. If you are so concerned that this is actually happening, then homeschool your kids. But based on the intelligence of your posts, maybe you shouldn’t.

          • Palin16

            What the heck do you call the new textbooks they want in California? And where are they going to get the money for all these books? I thought California was broke. Now Moonbeam is asking the citizens to vote for a tax increase.

          • kevinnc

            Those textbooks do not say, “Go out and have gay sex.” They have added information about homosexual men and women who have had an impact on our society. Is that really that difficult to understand?

          • Palin16

            How do you know what they say? They haven’t been printed yet!! And who’s going to pay for these books?

          • Palin16

            PS Some of the gays that have had an impact….Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy and William Bonin.

          • Kevin

            Palin16 – Do you even read your own posts? You are the one who said that the textbooks were going to telling kids to try homosexuality. My statement is based on the press releases from the CA board of education. Feel free to look them up.

            And you bring up three serial killers as examples? That is your witty argument? Out of millions of homosexuals you found three psychopaths. Wow! You have really pegged the homosexual community. Because there have never been any heterosexual serial killers, right? And no serial killers who have claimed that they were acting on God’s orders either, right? Simply because these people exist doesn’t mean that they are in any way representative of the larger society. Once again, grow up.

    • Robert Smith

      Shucks Helen, it can work the other way to.

      Remember “Family Ties?”

      Meredith Baxter has been married three times and has a bunch of kids.

      She admits she never expected to be gay. She wasn’t looking to date women, but she did.

      Now she’s in a relationship with a woman.

      Yup. Guess it can just happen sometimes.

      When did you choose to be straight?

      Rob

      • 45caliber

        I chose a long time before you chose to not be straight.

        • Kevin

          So then at some point being gay was an option for you? You considered being gay, but then decided that being heterosexual was a better fit for you?

        • Robert Smith

          There you go again 45. I’ve posted to you before that I’m straight and you’ve chosen to lie again.

          BTW, when I was in my teens a very good male friend of mine did suggest I try sex with him. I didn’t. Not out of hate, ignorance, or religion, but simply because I didn’t want to. It wasn’t a “choice.” I didn’t want to. He was still a friend until the day he died over a decade later in a car crash.

          Even knowing I could get out of the draft I didn’t for a moment consider an affair with a guy.

          Rob

          Rob

    • Kevin

      Who has asked you to accept or approve of anything? I can tell you flat out, no one cares about your approval or acceptance. Who is telling you what goes on in their bedroom? Simply stating that you are gay is not revealing what goes on in your bedroom. Mind your own business.

      • Doug

        I was born a poor white boy, but in my mind I am a rich black man! So where do I go to get this straighten out?

        • Kevin

          Next time you take your head out of your ass, wash it before you look in the mirror.

  • Morton L. Friedman

    If he truly means what he says about stopping foreign aid to countries that are anti- gay rights, then immediately all financial contributions to the UN should stop. Take a hard look at UN membership countries, those that support gay rights are but a small minority. In fact, in about 57 countries, homosexual activities are a capital crime, punishable by death. How intolerant can one be!

    • s c

      Morton, this criminal administration is always looking for more ‘friends.’ The net result of that ‘friendship’ tends to be via money or special status. With that mind, IF The Anointed Loser had to choose between catering to gays or Muslims, I WONDER what the choice would be – and WHY. Please remember that Muslims have one, basic attitude when it comes to gays.
      What think ye, Morton? I’m betting that The Anointed Putz would truly be between a rock and a hard place. Would he think in terms of who gets offended quicker or how many votes will be lost? It is SO IMPORTANT to have STANDARDS, eh?

    • eddie47d

      How is making a decision that effects a small minority going to garner Obama more votes or enhance his supposedly Muslim image. He loses on both counts and gains little. He is standing on principle and is willing to pay the consequences. That is a bravery that SC will never have and she would sell another human being down the toilet and sacrifice them at the altar. Few stood up against slavery either and most who did were scorned. Few stood up for the Jews for it meant instant arrest and possible death. Maybe SC would like to see gays eradicated too with her cop-out comment. Uganda attempted to vote that homosexuality is a crime punishable by death and anyone associating with that person would also be arrested and treated as a criminal. That plan was voted down but now it has been resurrected and will be voted on again. Maybe SC and her cohorts can move to Uganda and have the privilege of watching homosexuals being blindfolded and shot.

      • Kevin

        Also keep in mind that there are some supposedly “Christian” groups in America who are helping to finance the movement in Uganda to make homosexuality an offense punishable by death. SC can join up with them too and then try to sell us on what a great Christian she is.

        • 45caliber

          Kevin:

          Really? What groups are those? I would prefer to stay away from them.

        • coontail

          hey kevin lets get money together and do that in america,we dont need all this cunfusion.just drop a bomb where there is a gathering of all these confused animals

    • Will

      I’d prefer that the U.N. be KICKED OUT of the building in New York. I mean kicked real hard. Most concentrated source of evil in a very evil town.

  • RandallAA

    Doesn’t anybody see through this political ploy? The notion that we will really base our foreign aid policy on gay rights is totally absurd. Aren’t most of the countries we support financially engaged in suppression of approximately half of their population to begin with…Women? Don’t you realize this is an election ploy to garner support from as many citizens as possible for the upcoming re-election bid for Obama? This administration is in serious trouble based on performance to date. There is no low level they won’t stoop to in the art of deception, at any cost, to try to hang on to power.

    Pull your head out and see the light. This has nothing whatsoever to do with gay rights.

  • Donna Sangsiri

    This is my first time to make a comment – I read all of your comments everyday. The more I read about what is being said and done the more I get disgusted. Why do the so called leaders of our country feel they have a right to dictate to other countrys how they should live their lives? We are in no postion to make demands on anyone. We have more filth than just about every other country and we are the last ones who should be dictating how they should conduct themselves. The people that are trying to control the world are the trashiest ones of all. The Prime Minister of England is one with Clinton on this subject and the English people let him know immediately that he should shut his mouth and mind his own business. With all the major problems the world is facing now and she’s going to start something over a lifestyle that is the minority and not the majority? I really am sick to my stomach over all these grand gestures to something that is clearly Not the business of our so called leaders. Thank you for letting me have the opportunity to write what I feel.

    • Kevin

      You’re right! How dare our government take a stand on such a silly issue as human rights! Let’s continue to send aid to countries who kill people over their sexuality!

      Saying we will not send aid is not dictating. These countries have the right to choose how they want to run their countries. They just will not be guaranteed money from America if they choose to continue to oppress and murder people based on their sexuality.

    • Will

      Welcome Donna.

  • bill

    Who the hell do these people in the Dumbommer administration think they are threatening to cut off aid to other countries because they don’t have the same GAY RIGHTS as this idiot in the whitehouse does.
    Get this SOB out of the whitehouse before someone drops something in his lap.

  • Kevin

    As if pushing the homosexual agenda in this country were not enough, now we will push our influence of family breakdown across the earth. The agenda has always been quite clear.. you can’t rule a society like ours with out breaking down its moral fabric. I’ll give it 10 more years before NAMBLA has a political leader sitting as head of the Democrat party. Then we will all have to learn tolerance while pedophilia becomes accepted. And since Christianity is so intolerable that any sign of it must be banned, we can be sure to show our tolerance for Muslims and watch as they implement Sharia Law everywhere. Because we must be tolerant there of course, they are the minority in this country for Pete’s sake. Of course now this post will be followed up by some dumb ass, liberal, red diaper, doper baby who will call me a racist, homophobe, or redneck because they couldn’t see logic if it punched them in the face.

    • Franko

      At least Sharia Law (or the little I have heard and read about it) will do away with homosexuals – PROBLEM SOLVED!

      • Lisa

        You think so I heard they like little boys. Maybe thats how oboma got his education.

        • Dave

          Little boys are liked by the football coaches and the sequestered religious hypocrites and so many others that don’t lay claim to homosexuality.

          • Lisa

            What about the women that saria law effects? Are women defective also?

      • Karolyn

        What a great American, supporting murder. No wonder Europeans think we’re barbarians.

      • eddie47d

        Franko you are a freako or doubly deadly!

      • Michael

        PROBLEM NOT SOLVED! WE STILL HAVE DUMBSH*T MOTHERF**ERS LIKE YOU IN THE WORLD!

    • Lisa

      I think saying all homosexuals are into pedophillia is rediculous. That being said, I can feel the frustration of straight people at times it seems there are so many “rights” of others we seem to be being washed out of our rights. Its the politicaly correct thing to do you know!

    • Dave

      You just tagged yourself better than anyone here could do.

      • Lisa

        What’s a tag?

      • Lisa

        All I know Dave, is, having worked in a “special commitment center” pedophilies come in all shapes and sizes. Looking and acting just like you or me, some more intelligent than us. I also know gay and lesbian people who are outstanding people. I refrain from glumping things and people together. TAG YOUR IT DAVE!

        • Dave

          I was commenting on Kevin’s statement”Of course now this post will be followed up by some dumb ass, liberal, red diaper, doper baby who will call me a racist, homophobe, or redneck because they couldn’t see logic if it punched them in the face.”

          He tagged himself with his own comments

    • s c

      Thanks for mentioning NAMBLA, Kevin. Probably, Obummer is drooling at the thought of welcoming NAMBLA into his big, utopian tent. After all, a vote is a vote is a vote [dead voters are welcome, too].
      I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that we have MANY elected retards who can’t wait for someone like the current Anointed Fakir to sign an executive order and proclaim that NAMBLA deserves special, protected status.
      NAMBLA tried to get Bubba Clinton’s blessing, but he was wise enough to leave that hot potato for the next elected loser. Enter Obummer and his ‘compassionate’ herd.
      I’d like to know which issues are considered too hot to handle in the utopian sauna, er, tent.
      Their philosophy demands that you can’t have enough money (stolen from someone else) or enough easy
      votes (from live or dead voters). It’s so “tough” being a utopian, but then that’s THEIR problem.

      • eddie47d

        You are one sick puppy SC. Your motto is “If you can’t trash it don’t say it”. Do you ever have a positive thought in in that noggin of yours? You are more DISTURBED than the weirdos at NAMBLA!

    • Kevin

      Homosexuality does not lead to “family breakdown”. If your marriage is on such shaky ground that the existence of homosexuals will cause it to fall apart, that is your problem. I hate to break it to you, but homosexuals have nothing against heterosexual marriage or the family. I would also venture to say that pedophilia will never be something that we have to accept. Although, given the comments that followed your posting, there seems to be an attitude of feeling that pedophilia is something funny. Personally, I don’t find any humor in the rape of a child, but that’s just me.

    • rhcrest

      Kevin you are right on the money. The American Psychiatric assn is moving to normalize pedos just like they did homos back in the 70′s. THey want us to call them minor attracted individuals. They want us to accept it as just another lifestyle just like homosexuality

      • Kevin

        Nowhere in the APA’s statements does it say anything about pedophilia being an acceptable lifestyle. They are altering the diagnosis, but not condoning the behavior. The APA has not changed its attitude on children being unable to consent.

        • rhcrest

          http://veneremurcernui.wordpress.com/2011/08/16/the-next-push-normalizing-pedophilia/ Read this or just google APA pushes pedophilia and you will get lots more info

          • rhcrest

            http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/15/conference-aims-to-normalize-pedophilia/#ixzz1V76Kv7La “If a small group of psychiatrists and other mental health professionals have their way at a conference this week, pedophiles themselves could play a role in removing pedophilia from the American Psychiatric Association’s bible of mental illnesses — the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), set to undergo a significant revision by 2013. Critics warn that their success could lead to the decriminalization of pedophilia.

            The August 17 Baltimore conference is sponsored by B4U-ACT, a group of pro-pedophile mental health professionals and sympathetic activists. [one must wonder what kind of mentality would be "pro-pedophile."] According to the conference brochure, the event will examine “ways in which minor-attracted persons [pedophiles] can be involved in the DSM 5 revision process” and how the popular perceptions of pedophiles can be reframed to encourage tolerance………….

            Child advocate Dr. Judith Reisman, a visiting professor at Liberty University’s School of Law, said the conference is part of a strategy to condition people into accepting pedophiles……………

            [a promoter of pedophilia 'normalization,' a university professor whose own predelictions one must wonder about, states] “Stop buying into and promoting false stereotypes. Stop demonizing a whole class of people, and start learning the facts”

            Berlin has similarly compared society’s reaction to pedophilia to that of homosexuality prior to the landmark 2003 Lawrence v. Texas decision that decriminalized sodomy.

            B4U-ACT’s own website puts Berlin’s views front and center. “Just as has been the case historically with homosexuality,” he writes, “society is currently addressing the matter of pedophilia with a balance that is far more heavily weighted on the side of criminal justice solutions than on the side of mental health solutions.”

          • Robert Smith

            Rhcrest, rhcrest, rhcrest…

            Didn’t you see MY post about the APA and their statement? A small group isn’t the same as the organization.

            BTW, there are christians who are pushing for gay marriage. Bishop Spong is a good example. Do you think the rest of christanity is going to go along with him?

            Rob

  • Lost in Paradise

    What amazes me the most is how this great lie can go on and on, and congress will do nothing about it. WE as the citizens of this country need to put unrelenting pressure on congress to begin investigating Obama and his entire staff.

    I think it would open a can of worms so large hardly anyone would be totally innocent.

    • Robert Smith

      How’s ’bout an investigation of the torture from the Bush administration?

      After all, there isn’t any doubt it occurred. The only question is whether or not they are going to be held accountable. Even McCain was opposed to Bush on that one.

      Rob

  • Bill

    Clinton is right. It should never be a crime to be gay, possibly not even to live a gay lifestyle. However, such a lifestyle, detrimental to self and others, should never be be promoted as good or even normal. It’s a compulsion akin to alcoholism, not something to be promoted.

    • 45caliber

      I agree.

    • Karolyn

      OMG! Comparing homosexuality to alcoholism is like comparing apples to oranges. It never ceases to amaze me how much people have to say about things they know nothing about!

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        You should know. You are a prime example of it.

    • Robert Smith

      From Bill: “However, such a lifestyle, detrimental to self and others, should never be be promoted as good or even normal. It’s a compulsion akin to alcoholism, not something to be promoted.”

      I can say exactly the same about the brutal and hateful version of christanity I see advocated around here.

      Rob

    • Kevin

      Isn’t heterosexuality also a compulsion? Don’t you feel compelled to find women attractive? Homosexuals feel just as compelled when it comes to people of their own gender.

      • 45caliber

        a complusion? No, I just think a beautiful woman is one of God’s most lovely creations. That doesn’t mean that I must attack every one I see. Nor does it mean anything else. I don’t see men as beautiful though, although perhaps you do.

        • Kevin

          Who said anything about attacking anyone? I said you have no control over who you are attracted to.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Biologists, chemists,and nuerophysiologists beg to differ with your assumption.

          • Karolyn

            Nadzieja – Welcome back; missed your ascerbic tongue. Care to cite your allegations? We could go one for one. Actually, there is no proof either way because the research is ongoing.I prefer to go by the word from the horses’ mouths. Having had several close gay friends, I believe, without reservation, that they were born that way.

  • Lisa

    Are you kidding me? It’s another relection scam. He doesn’t want to do anything necessary unless he can gain from it. This way he can get the votes of gays and lesbians or he wouldn’t bother (you know, two birds with one stone). Why else would he p**s of his mus… radical friends? He doesn’t mind that their America’s enemies and want to kill all of us (including gays), that’s not a good enough reason for our so called comander and chief? Just to be clear, Not a word that comes out of his mouth represents me or my thoughts or morals. It does, however, embarrass the h**l out of be when he travels abroad. YOU DON’T SPEAK FOR ME OBOMA! I LOVE MY COUNTRY, I’D BE GLAD IF OBOMA LOVED IT AS WELL!

  • 45caliber

    I seriously doubt that this will be done. After all, he’d have to cut the funds off to all his Muslim friends. And I can’t see that happening.

  • Harvey

    It seems like Barry and Hilery are both queers! Maybe aids will end their days of destroying the moral fiber and finan i system of our country. It is none of our business what queers do in other countries or how they are treated.
    It ‘t it wonder and mysterious how queers can finally make our period officials stop giving our money away to foreign countries. Why did they not stop giving the mo wy away for security reasons? This seems to be the only good that can come queers. God will be waiting for them and I sure would like to watch them try to enter the Pearly Gates!

    • eddie47d

      I don’t believe you will be entering any pearly gates Harvey. I see too many here that are full of hate and with killing in their hearts and God won’t be fooled by this false defense of His Word.

      • Karolyn

        I can just see him smiling gleefully seeing people turned away and cast into hell! How can people be so hateful? How can anyone get pleasure out of seeing someone else in pain, no matter who they are.

    • Kevin

      I can assure you, that I will be fine when I stand before God. You might want to hope that there is not a spelling or grammar test as part of the entrance requirements. You want to claim what a good American you are, yet you can’t even communicate clearly in your native tongue. Also, what kind of a person would wish a horrible disease like AIDS onto someone else? You are the one with questionable morals. Be prepared to answer for that when your judgement comes.

  • Franko

    I am sure that funding will be CUT OFF – right AFTER the election next year… that way he can do as he has always done and promise something he has no intention of ever doing…

  • HDMania

    This is probably a NWO adgenda..the elite want to depopulate the world and what better way to do than this way..vaccines,GMOs all help the end result..

    • s c

      Stay tuned, HDMania. Obummer just blessed the idea of a VERY expensive, contaminated smallpox vaccine.
      Obummer, you see, is still “making friends” – at OUR expense. As long as MONEY is being spread around, Obummer has no scruples at all. May he never change.
      The questions is HOW LONG will Americans tolerate Obummer’s pimped-out, pig sty, wannabe utopia in what used to be the land of the free? There are ‘friends,’ and there are FRIENDS.

      • Lisa

        Thats an old one! In my history books, smallpox has already been used.

    • eddie47d

      The question is SC how long will we have to put up with your “pig sty” comments? More lies and pathetic innuendos to rile up the mob? Right SC? You must have alot of rope in your garage and are willing to use it.

      • Lisa

        It’s true, nothing would suprise me. he could be a bit more original though, smallpox already went to the Indians. (the american ones)

        • Nadzieja Batki

          KIndly go and read some history as your ignorance is showing.

          • Karolyn

            You deny that the Native-Americans were purposely given smallpox-laden blankets by our wonderful forebears?

          • http://deleted Claire

            Karolyn–Your words are true. It reminds me of “The Trail of Tears.”
            Dear God, the carnage was unspeakable.

          • Robert Smith

            Karolyn posted: “You deny that the Native-Americans were purposely given smallpox-laden blankets by our wonderful forebears?”

            I have no doubt that such was done. This is from: http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/legal/amherst/lord_jeff.html

            “Smallpox blankets
            Despite his fame, Jeffrey Amherst’s name became tarnished by stories of smallpox-infected blankets used as germ warfare against American Indians. These stories are reported, for example, in Carl Waldman’s Atlas of the North American Indian [NY: Facts on File, 1985]. Waldman writes, in reference to a siege of Fort Pitt (Pittsburgh) by Chief Pontiac’s forces during the summer of 1763:

            … Captain Simeon Ecuyer had bought time by sending smallpox-infected blankets and handkerchiefs to the Indians surrounding the fort — an early example of biological warfare — which started an epidemic among them. Amherst himself had encouraged this tactic in a letter to Ecuyer. [p. 108]
            Some people have doubted these stories; other people, believing the stories, nevertheless assert that the infected blankets were not intentionally distributed to the Indians, or that Lord Jeff himself is not to blame for the germ warfare tactic.”

            One thing is certain: Even without the “germ warfare” smallpox was devistating to the Native American population in both the North and South Americas.

            Rob

  • Patrick Henry

    Hillary’s correct. It’s not a crime to be homosexual. However it is a choice and a perverted one. You can’t equate their proposition with those fighting for equal rights because of their skin or nationality. Those people have no choice as to what they are and can’t change that. It’s inherited. Homosexuality is a choice “to be or not to be”. There are no rights that go with that except the same ones everyone should enjoy, the ones as a human being of being equal.

    • Kevin

      Homosexuality is not a choice. Do you choose to be attracted to your wife? Does she have to choose to be attracted to you? Please explain the specific rationale you use to be attracted to her.

  • Bob Marshall

    It is hard to believe that 70% of American voted for Obama.What were you thinking?

    • Dave

      McCain was not a very strong choice.

    • Robert Smith

      McCain was an idiot and the rest of the Republicans appear to be a bunch of hateful bigots.

      Rob

      • libertytrain

        based on your own comments, bigotry runs rampant from your own lips. I’m not a Republican but someone that says all people are this or all people are that must mean that you are incapable of even understanding what bias is. Poor thing.

      • Greg

        Look in the mirror.

  • Phyllis

    What is this love affair with this president and his administration and the homosexual agenda? It continues on, military, marriage, protection against name calling. Continue to allow all these immoral, abnormal activities to continue, and we will suffer the consequence.I realize there are a group in this country who realize this is one way to allow this country to die from the inside out.Destroy the family unit, kill the unborn, and we will soon be like the heathen of the past.

    • Dave

      What you so much hate is actually a constitutional right and you still don’t like it.

      • Jeep

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, that “Constitutional” right to abort a fetus. Right? Though it has always vexed me that this same “right” does not extend to my parents. After all, my mother has become such an “inconvenience”. She is wheel chair bound and I have to go and care for her every day before trodding off to work. And, talk about a money drain! What a terrible “burden”. Since she is such a hassle, I should be able to “eliminate” her under your same reasoning of “inconvenience”, shouldn’t I? Oh, but wait…you might argue that the beating heart of an unborn child is just a lump of tissue. That a fetus is no more than a cancerous growth of disgusting skin and bones in the shape of a child. I guess that something changes at birth. That magically the moment it leaves the womb it is a “person”. But, in the end some judge says it is “Constitutional” to rip out that lump of flesh for the “convenience” of the…well, you can’t call the vessel a mother, now can you? Because that would imply that the fetus is a child. What do you call a pregnant woman that is carrying around a mass of viable tissue? Oh well, I guess you win…unfortunately, the baby loses.

        • Robert Smith

          Jeep, you almost got it right!: ” I guess that something changes at birth. That magically the moment it leaves the womb it is a “person”.”

          Yup. At birth it transitions from the woman who has rights to her body into the world where any volunteer can take care of it. If you want to take care of it, you are welcome to. But you can’t force another to take care of it against their will.

          For example, if you invite someone into your house for a party this festive season and they decide to stay you are entitled to get them out. Nope, they say, as long as they are in your house (because you invited them) they are entitled to anything they need. Food, medical care, etc. YOU must supply it to them they say. If I support them in their demands, what would you think?

          I’ll bet you would demand that they be tossed out of your home.

          Well, a woman has the same right to toss someone out of her very own body. That is even MORE personal than your own home where our Constitution says you can’t be forced to host the military, regardless of need.

          So, if a woman (for the sake of argument) decides to toss a “person” out she can.

          It’s that simple.

          Rob

          • Jeep

            Robert that is too funny! You said that, “But you can’t force another to take care of it against their will.” Really? Washington does it EVERYDAY. In the form of billions to the “needy”. I would assume that you are against that too. Can’t we just “toss” the poor? “Food, medical care, etc. YOU must supply it to them they say.” I do, and so does everyone else who pays taxes. By extension, there is precedent for “forcing” a woman to carry to term, then. Isn’t there?

            Anyway, by your argument Robert you would “agree” that I have a “right” to “toss” my mother out. Unfortunately, again, that “person” is not “tossed”, but ceases to exist. Plain and simple. I believe it is life, human life, in the womb. You do not. We will probably never agree.

          • Robert Smith

            Posted: “YOU must supply it to them they say.” I do, and so does everyone else who pays taxes.”

            As a society we have volunteered to take care of those in need.

            Sadly not everyone is so generous. Some are outright selfish and don’t want to help others unless it is a fetus where they can FORCE a woman to remain pregnant against her will.

            If she doesn’t want it in her it’s OUT. It’s that simple.

            If you don’t want someone in your home they are also out.

            As a society we can volunteer to take care of the born.

            Rob

        • Dave

          The right to pursue your happiness. Jeez get a life.

          • Jeep

            Hmmm…really? Never would have got that from your inane reply…

    • Kevin

      What does abortion have to do with this topic? Homosexuals are not overly involved in the abortion issue, for obvious reasons. You can try to sell the bs idea that homosexuality will lead to the destruction of the family, but the reality is that it just doesn’t fly. Homosexuals have nothing to gain from the family unit falling apart. Why would they want it to be destroyed? Also, what influence do homosexuals have on other peoples marriages? If your marriage falls apart, it has nothing to do with homosexuality. Look at your own issues and don’t blame your flaws on others.

  • Rennie

    So countries like Kenya that burn people at teh stake for witchcraft, or Pakistan that stones women to death for alleged adultry and forces them to marry their rapist, of Egypt whose military runs down Christians with jeeps or uses lethal nerve gas on them, still get our money, but not those countries who refuse to treat gays and lesbians as if they are better than heterosexuals? Sounds like another attack on Judeo-Christian culture (a.k.a. Western Civilization) to me.

    • Dave

      Someone like you with the level of contempt you have would think like that

    • eddie47d

      You spoke some truths Rennie and it is a sinful world we live in. I will disagree with you that homosexuals want “more rights” . They only want equal rights that heterosexuals enjoy. Since there are nations that do imprison homosexuals and a few that kill them then it does come down to a human rights issue. Those countries should be taken to task for their bad behavior towards their citizens.It’s a big task considering that there are nations who still enslave people or abuse them for profit. Myanmar has horrible human rights abuses as does the Congo and even Russia.The best thing we can do is set a good example for the world and treat everyone as equal as we can. There was a story in the paper last week about this Afghanistan woman who was raped and became pregnant. The rapist could not be punished and the judge ordered the woman the marry her rapist. She refused and the judge gave her 12 years in prison. Such a stink was raised about this injustice that the judge came back and reduced the sentence to 4 years. As if that was really justice! That is our ally doing this and I wonder if we have any real influence in the world if that is allowed to happen. I won’t give up hope but it is a long tired battle.

    • Kevin

      Rennie, you do realize that all three countries you mentioned would be denied aid for their treatment of homosexuals anyway, right?

  • LES

    It would be better if they cut off aid to countries that hate us.

    • Lisa

      My point exactly!

  • Michael

    Are you saying you don’t like to munch carpet? I you do, that would mean you have something in common.

  • Palin16

    If the homosexuals are allowed to marry, then I want to marry my car. It’s not hurting anyone, is it? Bride’s name: Mustang Sally. Bride’s father name: Henry Ford. Bride’s place of birth: Dearborn, Michigan. It’s my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

    • Robert Smith

      F4rom Palin16: “then I want to marry my car.”

      Please be careful you don’t burn your lips on the exhaust pipe.

      BTW, what kind of a god designs a situation where the sewer runs through the playground?

      Rob

    • Kevin

      Palin16, if you can find a car that can consent, knock yourself out. Otherwise, grow up and stop trying to make comparisons between consenting adult human beings and inanimate objects.

      • Palin16

        Oh you’re so insensitive, you don’t understand how much I love my car! It’s not hurting anyone if I marry my car! Waaaaaa!

  • Lisa

    There is such a thing as “equality” without special rights… isn’t there?

    • Lisa

      HELLO! Is this only a bitch session or is this a place for solutions as well?

    • eddie47d

      Bingo! That is what it all has to come down to.

      • Lisa

        I guess so.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          You have contributed quite a bit to what you lovingly called “b….” session.

    • Kevin

      All that homosexuals want is equality. There is no expectation for special rights.

  • Michael

    Especially taffeta and krillin!

  • James

    Whether we like it or not, the Supreme Court, in Lawrence v. Texas, held that Americans have the right to be homosexual. This decision voided all state laws that had criminalaized it, and in effect told God to take His moral code and shove it. Then, to help this hatred of America along, President Obama will limit foreign aid funds to those nations that still outlaw homosexuality. In effect, he will penalize them for practicing what saith the Lord.

    • Lisa

      Being gay is not a crime, murder and such is a crime. Maybe we should worry about things that are harmfull to others. My god loves all people who are “good human beings”

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So you have made up your own god in your own image or are you now god.

      • James

        Lisa, My God says: “Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated” (Rom. 9:13).

    • Robert Smith

      Posted: “This decision voided all state laws that had criminalaized it, and in effect told God to take His moral code and shove it. ”

      Actually what I heard is sodomy was outlawed because that’s where lawyers come from.

      In fact, it had nothing to do with gays.

      Rob

      • James

        Robert, In Lawrence v. Texas, Mr. Lawrence and his fellow-plaintiff were gay, they were seen having sex together and tried for that-then crime. That High Court decision had everything to do with gays. It held, under the “Liberty” clause of the 14th Amendment, that gays now have the right to have sexual relations.

    • Kevin

      Being gay is anti-American? Is there some sort of consitutional amendment that I missed where homosexuality was addressed? Also, I wouldn’t assume to know what God thinks. God will make his feelings clear to everyone when they stand before him for judgement; he doesn’t need your help.

      • Franko

        You are SO WRONG! He has given us His word – and states explicitly that HE hates homosexuality… Leviticus 20:13 states “If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” (New International Version)

        • Robert Smith

          I don’t know Franko…

          That ritualistic canabal thing with body and blood just doesn’t seem to be proper with company I want to keep.

          BTW, do you know where I can get a small electric chair I can put on a chain around my neck? Wearing execution devices seems to be in fashion these days among christians. I thought I might try it as my own statement.

          Rob

      • James

        Kevin, God doesn’t expect people to guess at what constitutes sinning, He itemized His laws in the Old Testament.

        • Kevin

          And yet we only follow a handful of those laws today. The rest we have determined to be unnecessary as time has gone by. Who is to say that the “laws” we have chosen not to follow are not actually valued by God? You don’t get to pick and choose the parts of the Bible you feel are the “important” parts. Take it all as law, or don’t take any of it as law. God endowed man with the ability to reason things out and make decisions based on logic. Try to use some of that.

          • James

            You are right about that, obviously Hillar Clinton doesn’t believe the Bible is the infallible word of God, nor do at least five of the Supreme Court Justices. I believe God is real, and I believe Jesus Christ was, and will be, the incarnation of the living God. As concerning the Old Testament law, Jesus said (Mt. 5:18-19): “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” A ‘jot’ is the smallest letter, and a ‘tittle’ is the smallest part of a letter.
            For those who believe that is the word of Almighty God will never tinker with His law. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for a reason, and Christians don’t question that.

  • Roland mccarthy

    Although Hillary has buffaloed most till now she is treading on dangerous territory. Equating this “situation” with anything moral is ignorant. Issues of women’s rights, or racial equality is totally different & is justified. The “Natural” laws of sexual preference are well defined in the Bible & some other religious books & not an issue of moral right. For such an “educated” lawyer she is showing her truly ignorant side & exposing it to
    plain view, her choice. The truth really does prevail! She is forgetting she is an elected servant & supposed to support majority, silent or otherwise, not what SHE feels. There is no legal or factual ground in her stance. So, she prefers to support the dishonestly & lies of the present administration & ignore those that have a real conscience. Not only are you practicing reverse bigotism but signing you own way out of politics girl. Decisions yours. Support a very vocal 3% or support the majority which are realizing it’s not ok to be sent & turn the other cheek to what’s wrong in PUBLIC life. Someone needs to wake up.

    • Lisa

      Key word here being “public”, what happens in our own homes (such as sexual preferance) is called privacy. I do agree the majority should be represented!

    • Dave

      The majority is probably okay with homosexuals getting equal rights. We’ll never know since only a small fraction even vote let alone waste time trying to educate the people here with any semblance of respectfor others. In this country the constitution is full of rights for everyone. They gave these people guns and tha others the brains.

    • Kevin

      Is there any legal or factual basis for your point of view? Nope, there isn’t.

  • Marv

    Gays are just retarded people that don’t know from right or wrong in life. They are mentally retarded and need to be prison in the retarded section.

    • Robert Smith

      Hey Marv, I see your post : “Gays are just retarded people that don’t know from right or wrong in life. They are mentally retarded and need to be prison in the retarded section.”

      I read it as: Brutal hateful bigoted christians are just retarded people that don’t know right from wrong in life. They are mentally retarded and need to be in prison in the retarded section.”

      Yup, that works for me.

      How does it feel getting equal treatment?

      Rob

      • Lisa

        I have to defend the “retarded” people here, what did they ever do to any of you to disrespect them in this manner?

        • Lisa

          unless of course “retarded” has a different meaning than “downs syndrome”

          • mark

            It is great to read all these open-minded and Christian views. Homosexuals are retards. Don’t say that, you are insulting the retards. Homosexuals are much worse than retards? The milk of human kindness and Christ-like love for our fellow man are overwhelming on this site. Anyone here ever read the Sermon on the Mount? Jesus’s actual words? All this makes one yearn for a Judgment Day (and I am not that religious). Just to see all these bigots and haters get their just due.

      • meteorlady

        I’m sorry, but you remarks is just as bigoted and hateful.

        • Lisa

          I didn’t mean to offend you, i’m sorry. I have a friend who has a sister…it offends me when people are referred to as retarded.

      • Monte

        Robert, you are undoubtedly an atheist. Your condescending view of Christians proves it. We have as much right to an opinion as you have and we have His word to reinforce ours. God stated it was an abomination ages ago. How long ago did you liberal loones decide it was not? By your rant, queers are to be protected but not Christians. Christians are to discriminated against but not fags. Or is it just anybody that doesn’t agree with your looney liberal opinions? You are free to have your opinion and burn in hell for all eternity, but we are not to have ours. You demand that we agree with your looney position. You must have laws that reinforce your view. You people, with your hate and prejudice, are the problem. And all your finger pointing at others doesn’t change that. I will keep my opinions no matter what you might think. I trust to a higher source than some liberal loon.

    • Kevin

      How old are you Marv? 5? 6? You are clearly not mature enough to enter into an adult conversation. Come back when you grow up.

    • Karolyn

      You so eloquently show your mentality and that of too many conservatives.

    • Michael

      The definition of retarded means slow. As a gay man, I’m not mentally slow in the least. At times, I may be retarded, physically. That means: I like to take it nice and slow when I’m with my man. There’s a mental image for you,(offensive word removed)

  • Red Sam Rackham

    What about countries that don’t treat women and men equally? What about countries such as Vietnam that practice racism against people who aren’t full blooded Asian? What about human rights violations in general? Why do we give foreign aid to such countries while our own country is going through a major financial crisis?

    • Kevin

      Vietnam also has oppressive policies when it comes to homosexuals. They would be denied aid under this policy.

  • David

    I only got through about 1/4 of the posts on this article and I have to say that Obama’s tactic is working very well… divide and conquer. Not only is he promoting a class warfare and raging racism, now he is beguiling strong emotion from both sides of the sexuality aisle. The bottom line here is that an individuals sexual preference is their business, and their business ONLY! What is at stake however is far more important than liking girls or boys, it is the dismantling of our republic. With each decree he makes(EO), Obama continues to pit people against each other in the most insidious ways. Folks, the final hour is almost upon us. It really is time to wake up from this nightmare and come to terms with what and who is really in control of this country. Obama is ONLY a puppet, and is doing his handlers bidding. Just look at the tone of the posts here, and I think you can understand what’s happening. Obama couldn’t care less about ANYONES rights, as long as he accomplishes the goals that have been laid out FOR him. Why would someone who is the leader of the greatest country in the world be concerned about the rights of ANY GROUP outside the borders of his own country when their are 44 million of his own countrymen on welfare and food stamps with an unemployment rate of 22%? The only answer is that he doesn’t care!
    WAKE UP PEOPLE!

  • Jerry

    I don’t believe the government can regulate sin much but I do know what will happen to a nation if the majority goes that way. The US is getting to be a good example of Sodom, which is at the bottom of the Dead Sea. God never changes. He is slow to act and his mercy is for ever for those who repent, but bad things are going to happen.

    • rhcrest

      Actually I think Sodom would be a step up!

    • Robert Smith

      Hey Jerry, what’s Gamority? Am I missing something?

      Rob

  • mark

    Did anyone notice the misleading use of the photograph in this article. “Obama cuts off aid to countries unfriendly to gays” and then it shows the Israeli flag, though admittedly a rainbow one that celebrates diversity. But why the Israeli flag? It sort of gives the impression that Obama is cutting aid to Israeli because of their policy toward gays. This is completely misleading as Israel does not discriminate against gays and Obama has increased – not cut – aid to Israel. Why not show a photo of a Asian, Middle Eastern or African country that does persecute and mistreat gays in a shameful manner, there are several of them? I know this is a pet peeve of mine, but it seems to me that this site uses photos to manipulate viewers’ subconscious and give erroneous impressions of reality.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear mark,

      You are too smart by half.

      “but it seems to me that this site uses photos to manipulate viewers’ subconscious and give erroneous impressions of reality.” This is strike two for you.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • mark

        Dear Bob,

        Seriously though why this photo of an Israeli flag? As you probably already know photo analysis is an obsession of mine. I don’t get it? Also right below my comment, one of this site’s constant contributors, Raggs, writes and I am quoting him: ” As I suspectede all along that oblama is a closet faggot.” But this kind of comment gets no reprimand from you at all vs. my questioning of a photo in which I use no obscene or insulting language towards anyone.

        Sincerely, mark

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear mark,

          I’m reminding you that I do not care for your propensity to ascribe ulterior motives to our selection of photographs. While I am under no obligation to justify our actions to you, I will give you the explanation this one, last time. One of our sources for photographs is UPI. The author entered the search term “gay flag”, and this photo showed up near the top. Apparently there was a recent gay pride-style event in Israel, because there were a lot of these. This was one of the most compelling in the search. It’s that simple. What you can’t see because of cropping is that the man is holding the flagpole for this flag.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Raggs

            Bob… Prehaps it may be that mark is holding the fag-pole and he finds himself in discontent as a direct result of his liberal idealogical crap pounding… :)…

          • eddie47d

            46% of Israelis are against the gay lifestyle and 54% support gay rights. That doesn’t mean that 54% support the lifestyle or at least the poll didn’t mention that but they do support full and equal rights.

          • Karolyn

            Bob – Why is it OK for people like Raggs to post their vile, rude, vulgar language?

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Karolyn,

            Rudeness is not a violation of our comment policy. If it were, I’d have to ban about half the commenters. While the terms he used are not politically correct, they do not fall to the level of vile or vulgar.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

  • Raggs

    As I suspectede all along that oblama is a closet faggot.

    • Michael

      As are you!

  • http://wfwilson6@msn.com Bill

    This should automatically cut off all Muslim countries.

  • Joseph

    A very clever tactic by which to ENFORCE the gay agenda! I also happen to notice the Israeli insignia(star of David)emblazoned on the gay flag. I’m beginning to think that BHO is neither Christian nor Muslim, but Jewish! The Jewish Lobby rules supreme in the realm of political control. Lobbies such as AIPAC, ADL, and the American Jewish Congress (AJC), decide which candidates will be elected. They do this by pouring millions of Jewish dollars into the campaign coffers of Pro Israel politicians, and smearing, through their connections in the Jewish-occupied media, their opponents.

    President, Barack Obama, had enormous amounts of money poured into his campaign by an elite contingent of wealthy & influential Chicago based Jews – so much so, that Obama now has an excess of $30 million from a $745 million haul.

  • Raggs

    OH.. The Shame…
    Imagine… we have what is called ( by some ) a “president” that endorses a ritual of butt pounding… I’m sure that this will give Amerika a good name?

    • Kevin

      Should we all aim to be a great patriot like you, WHO CAN’T EVEN SPELL AMERICA CORRECTLY!!!!!! If you can’t spell the name of your own country, don’t try to wave the patriot flag and criticize others.

  • Robert Pedersen

    YEP,YEP,YEP,YEP. IT IS TIME THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR US CITIZENS FIRST. STOP SENDING OUR TAX PAYERS DOLLAR AND BORROWING MONEY TO AID FOREIGN COUNTRIES. GAY RIGHTS SHOULD NOT EVEN ENTER THE EQUATION. JUST LOOK WITHIN OUR COUNTY WHERE WE NEED THE AID.

    BOB PEDERSEN

  • duaner

    Why in the hell is eddied47 still allowed along with his left wing flunkies on this site. If any one of us tried to voice an intelligent opinion on a left wing site we would be bounced off so fast. I am truly sick of seeing his puke e-mail handle and totally uniformed babbeling on this site. I just don’t get it Bob. All these left wing nuts do is hurl insults, half truths, outright lies and vile babbelings. I will keep on complaining about this puke until he and his cronies are banned from this site.

    • kevinnc

      I’m confused. Isn’t this a discussion board? How do you expect to have a discussion if everyone is in agreement? A discussion usually involves multiple opinions, some of which you will not agree with. Welcome to America where we have freedom of speech and the right to express our opinions. If you want to go to a liberal site and voice your opinion, go ahead, that’s your right.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear duaner,

      I am a strong believer in the 1st Amendment. After all, our site’s name Personal Liberty. We encourage a robust discussion. For discussion to take place, dissenting views must be allowed. If not, we would be living in an echo chamber. There are a few things we don’t allow, as expressed in our content policy. But even that is liberally interpreted. In other words, the moderators are allowed to use their judgement about what is offensive. We have been known to ban commenters, but only after warnings and repeated violations. I believe we’re doing a good job of achieving a balance that you won’t find on other sites.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • DABEE

    OMG!!! Can’t you people see what he (obummer) is doing??? It is all smoke and mirrors. He is lying, just like he did when he went too college as a foreign student under an alias on the tax payers dime. He would not know the truth if it smacked him right in the face. He has been scamming the AMERICAN people ever since he came back to this country for Indonisia. He scammed the people in Illimois and got elected to the U.S. Senate. And can you believe they sent Berny Madoff to prison for a thousand years for his scams. Where is the justice.

  • Randy Brasch

    I wonder if she’d cut of aid to the US as well. We’re certainly seeing a lot of “anti” here to things that ain’t “white bread”. And I fear it’s going to get worse.

  • Richard Lefcourt

    Did you all know that Israeli Arabs as a whole have one of the highest standards of living in the entire Muslim world or that Israel is the most tolerant nation in the entire region? The photo and headline of this article imply something very different and should be reconsidered.

  • FWO21

    Homosexuals have the same rights as everyone else; they just prefer to have sex with the same sex as they are and that is not something that should be supported. Our government is asking everyone to like homosexuality and that is wrong.

    I just don’t understand how our government has any right to defend what these people choose to do in the bedroom, or wherever.

  • FWO21

    http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1181.cfm

    I think Disney is doing the work for this administration. Read the article above.

  • Helen2

    Sorry Robert, I don’t watch much TV, but my point was, if you can go back and forth, it is a choice, not a lifestyle. To answer your question, I’ve never been anything other than straight. I have always liked guys. And as far as the website Karolyn gave, it was ridiculous. It said that the scripture in Corinthians says that both the child molester and the child who was molested go to hell. Which is ridiculous. That’s the muslim Koran not the Bible. I was molested as a child and it was not my sin, it was my uncle’s sin. God is not sending me to hell for something my uncle did. The Koran on the other hand says that if a woman is raped, she needs to be stoned for her adultery. Which is plain stupid!! Whoever it was that said they weren’t going to read it, you were right about it. It just made me really angry. And the school curriculum is more used than you think. I have a niece and a granddaughter that have told me things in the curriculum about the homosexual lifestyle that is enough to make any straight person angry. That’s what I meant by not shoving it down my throat. Do your own thing and quit trying to convince grade school kids that it is okay. Unless your going to give straight people equal access to your children too. I don’t understand why we just can’t let each other live our lives the way we see fit. Why do you have to change my mind about your sexual orientation? I don’t care what you do as long as you leave me and my family alone! Just because there are people that hate homosexuals, doesn’t give you the right to make laws that affect me and my children. Go after the haters. Not my kids!!

    • Robert Smith

      From Elena: “Just because there are people that hate homosexuals, doesn’t give you the right to make laws that affect me and my children. ”

      Exactly what laws impact you and your family? Please cite the law and a municipality / venue.

      Oh, and just what were the terrible things your kids were taught? Please cite the book they were taught from or the teacher who was offending you.

      In fact nobody ever does respond to that because not true that kids are being taught how to be gay.

      Rob

  • CUZIN ERN

    Isn’t this just PEACHY???…The country liberals are all turning the other cheeks when it cones to Tail Gating and playing their favorite game named “BUTT TAG”….They played this game in Ancient History like in present day IRAQ and in ancient Rome and drinking wine out of lead lined wine Casks, and now we have same scenario going on in the good ol hole called the USA, no elongation here…CUZIN ERN

  • Karolyn

    I just find it hard to believe that in this day and age there are so many misinformed people with regard to homosexuality (among many other things). Throw off your blinders and see with new eyes! Don’t follow your herd. Strike out into new territory. There is so much we don’t know; however, there are so many who continue to cling to what has been taught for so long without even investigating new frontiers. Some old people, especially, refuse to even glance at something that is not what they have believed thir whole lives. I prefer to keep learning and searching. There is so much more to know! Once you stop growing, you might as well be dead, and growth comes with change.

    What on earth makes anyone think that being taught about homosexuality will push young people to try it? I am hetero and would never try it because I am not of that persuasion, even when I was young and impressionable. Would you when you were a kid? What makes you think kids are any different today? Of course, there are those who do try anything, but if they are not homosexual, it will never stick with them. Don’t you get it? It is as plain as the nose on your face!

    • James in NY

      o true – unfortunately you are preaching to the wrong audience. I rank Hillary’s speech up there with MLK’s “I have a dream speech”.

    • FWO21

      Well, I don’t think you are 10 years old and I think you know the difference between right and wrong; that has to be taught to children. If a person is born “that way” then why does it even have to be “taught” in the schools?

      I believe it is up to the parents to teach their children that you don’t laugh and point to people that are different from you. It is okay to still laugh and make fun of fat people though; no laws made to protect those people.

      You talk about “old people” not willing to change anything. Well, you are wrong; what do you know about all old people anyway. There is such a thing called “morals” and that is what people have, not the fear of change. AND WE ARE SICK OF HAVING IT SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS.!

      Do some reading on Alfred Kinsey and you will see his big plan is working out just fine.

      http://www.cwfa.org/kinsey.asp
      http://neohumanism.org/a/al/alfred_kinsey.html

      There is a couple for you to check out. Pretty disgusting. Probably a special place in “hell” just for him and people like him. I know, I have my own level of hell but it won’t be as low as his.

      • Robert Smith

        Judith A. Reisman has pretty much made a career out of Alfred Kinsey and his ground breaking research.

        NONE of her claims have been substanciated. She has lost law suit after law suit.

        You can learn more about this whacko at:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Reisman

        It is clear she is NOT a reliable source.

        Rob

      • Karolyn

        What do I know about old people? Well, I would say being 65 would give me some clue, although I know that those of you in your 70s and 80s are too far gone to grasp at anything new.

  • Chris

    We should be getting rid of gay “rights”. Hilary Clinton is the biggest idiot in EXISTANCE right next to Obama. The sooner she goes, the better.

  • JY

    This discussion is crazy! The USA stands for rights for All people including every religion and sexual orientation. Wow! Someone else’s sexuality should have no bearing on anyone else’s. Get over yourselves already. Feel free to live in your world of fear. Hillary Clinton is doing a great job of smoothing over the messes left behind by the ignorance of the previous 8 years of not thinking before speaking. The USA cannot exist in a bubble of American Conservatism. The rest of the world IS where we live. Some can pretend all problems began after the votes were counted but unfortunately, they really began the last 2 years of the Bush 8 years of Tax Cutting Giveaways and Deregulation. We compete with the Chinese, Japanese, French, German, Russian, Australians every day. They are studying and being educated here while we are watching Hillbilly Hand Fishing and washing our pick-up trucks. It’s no joke why they can do our jobs better than we can. We still think a high school diploma is all we need to succeed in life.
    F.Y.I: High School Teachers have Master’s Degrees. Do You?

  • JY

    Maybe you shouldn’t have any rights Chris.

  • Wil

    I can see why Bill was messing with Lewinsky and the others.How drunk would a guy have to be to see anything attractive about Hillary?

    • Karolyn

      Typical male chauvinistic fixation on looks when assessing a woman’s qualities. Are you that handsome?

  • Idylewylde

    Hillary is Wesleyan. The pro-Gay doctrine is Wesleyan.

    How dare she force her religious views on the rest of us?!!!

  • Elena J

    Does this mean also cutting off funds to those countries who violate human rights?

    • Kevin

      Are you under the assumption that countries who are violating human rights are gay friendly? Gays would be one of the groups being violated in those countries and therefore those countries would be denied aid.

  • Linda

    Funny how Obama is so concerned with gay rights, but not a word about womens’ rights,especially in Muslim countries! We should stop all foreign aid! Why are we giving financial aid to China, while we borrow money from them and then pay them interest on it! Why do we give financial aid to Muslim countries who hate us anyway and want to destroy our way of life! We need to remove the income cap for Social Security contributions so that it includes all earned income, then the percentage paid by all people could be lowered.(DUH) Tax the churches which have mostly become BIG businesses! Make charities more accountable and make them limit their administrative costs to less than 20%. If charitible contributions are tax deductible, it should be provided that they are used in our country, or have the amount deducted from the foreign aid we are giving those countries. Also it’s BS to allow Bill Gates to give to Warren Buffet’s charity,and Warren Buffet to give to Bill Gates charity, so that THEY BOTH GET A BIG TAX DEDUCTION, WHILE NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED EXCEPT THEY DON’T PAY TAXES ON IT! Stop giving farm and ranch subsidies and tax exemptions to people who draw less than 80% of their income from it. When millionaires and others pay less taxes on their massive land holdings than the average person pays on their home just because they call it an ‘animal preserve’, something’s wrong! Taxes should be based on the value of the land, unless they are truly farmers (or ranchers) who actually farm (or ranch)and derive more than 80% of their income from it! Limit welfare to a lifetime limit of 4 years, with a limit of 1 year at a time. Investigate people who apply for welfare, food stamps, free school lunches, rent subsidies, etc. to check for fraud and substance abuse,and if fraud is found deny them ANY and ALL future aid! The people who got caught for welfare fraud after years of collecting more than $100,000.00, all the while living in a $1,200,000.00 house and traveling all over the world, are perfect examples of what can happen when there is no accountability. Also, we need SOMEONE in Congress with enough BALLS enter legislation that prevents ‘INSIDER TRADING’, and whoever won’t vote for it should be ‘Kicked-Out’!

  • Ann Wilson Kingsley

    How embarrassing and demoralizing to have a bisexual president. It is obvious that both the Clinton’s and the Obama’s are Christians in name only (CINOS. Between the two presidents, they have supported every abomination imaginable.

    • Idylewylde

      Hillary is Wesleyan .. a denomination that pushes the Gay agenda and calls itself Christian. So you can’t call her anti-Christian, or a Christian in name only. Her version of God and Christ is bisexual .. Mother god, Father god, gay son.

      • Kevin

        Get your facts straight. Hillary went to Wesleyan College, she is not a member of the Wesleyan faith. She is a United Methodist. Also, the beliefs you list are not associated with the Wesleyan faith or any other faith I have ever heard of.

  • DaveH

    Cutting off aid to countries who don’t support gay rights. Unbelievable.
    First off, Our Government shouldn’t be giving money to anybody. It’s NOT their money to give. But to cut off aid because the countries don’t support gay rights? Which class of people are always the first to complain if a religion looks for special favors? Yet, they force the religion of Liberalism on the rest of us and think nothing about it. What hypocrites.
    Government shouldn’t be involved in the support or the depreciation of gay rights. It is none of Government’s business.

  • Frank

    We should not be giving money to ANY nation PERIOD, Let alone ones who are run by religious fundametalists who put superstition over science. Or ones that occupy other people’s land and build settlements there!

  • Palin16

    A special Christmas song for all the gays, sung to the tune “Walking in a Winter Wonderland”:

    “Lacey things, the wife is missing.
    Didn’t ask, for her permission
    I’m wearing her clothes,
    her silk panty hose.
    Walking around in women’s underwear.

    In the store, there’s a teddy.
    With little straps, like spagetti.
    It holds me so tight,
    like handcuffs at night.
    Walking around in womens underwear.

    In the office there’s a guy named Melvin.
    He pretends that I am Murphy Brown.
    He’ll say “Are you ready?”
    I’ll say, “Woah man! Lets wait untill the wife is out of town.”
    Later on, if you wanna,
    We can dress, like Madonna.
    Put on some eye shade, and join the parade.
    Walking around in women’s underwear.

    Lacey things, missing.
    Didn’t ask, permission.
    Wearing her clothes, silk panty hose.
    Walking around in women’s underwear.
    Walking around in women’s underwear.
    Walking around in women’s underwear……”

    • kevinnc

      Interesting that your song is about a married man. Isn’t this what you want gay people to do? Marry women and pretend not to be gay? Then be all shocked and upset when he leaves you for a man.

      FYI – very few gay men are into cross-dressing. We like men, so there is no need or desire for a man to pretend to be a woman in order to achieve some sort of satisfaction.

      • Palin16

        It’s just a parody song, don’t get your panties in a wad. For someone who claims that homosexuality is just a small part of who you are, how come we only see you on the articles about gays? Never on Obamacare, the economy, wars, elections, Blagojevich, or the death penalty. Got AIDS Yet (GAY)?

        • Kevin

          I have been on others as well, actually. Does that make you happy? Oh wait, I forgot, you are only happy when you are making childish remarks at someone else’s expense.

          • Palin16

            kevin,
            Perhaps you’d be happier spreading your gay agenda at Huffington Post. Yeah, I know, you’d be bored hanging out with liberals.

            Here’s another Christmas song for the Occupy Wall St. movement, sung to the tune of “Little Drummer Boy”:

            Get a job, you bum,bum,bum,bum.
            Money don’t grow on trees, you bum,bum,bum,bum.
            I am a poor boy too, you bum,bum,bum,bum.
            Bum,bum,bum,bum. Bum,bum,bum,bum.

          • Kevin

            Actually, I also don’t agree with many liberal ideas either. Hate to break yet another stereotype for you, but just because someone is gay does not mean that he is a liberal. Shockingly, we possess the ability to form individual opinions. You should look into gaining that ability rather than merely spouting the same right-wing, anti-gay garbage that so many other people on this site regurgitate over and over.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Obama Cuts off aid to Countries who don’t support Gays__Huh….More of SOS, Same Ole Shyte, designed to p*ss off the masses, and cause and up rise. This is called trying to desensitize the sheep! Whatever Obama and his Minions do, can be undone!__”IF” we get a chance to elect a new President, that is?!

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST STARKEY

    IMMORALITY THAT WOULD MAKE SODOM AND GOMMORRAH ENVIOUS!
    PEDOPHILES RUN RAMPANT,GAYS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN NORMAL PEOPLE,
    CHILDREN NOT BEING GIVEN ANY DIRECTION FROM THE LOGIC OF HISTORY!
    “SEE HOW THEY TRAVEL THE WORLD TO MAKE ONE CONVERT AND THEN TURN
    THEM INTO TWICE THE CHILDREN OF GEHENNA!”
    “DAUGHTERS OF JERUSALEM:WEEP NOT FOR ME BUT FOR YOURSELVES AND FOR
    YOUR CHILDREN,FOR BEHOLD THE DAYS ARE COMING WHEN THEY WILL WISH
    THAT THE MOUNTAINS FALL ON US AND KILL US AND THE HILLS BURY US,
    IF IT IS LIKE THIS WHEN THE WOOD IS GREEN THEN WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE
    WHEN IT IS DRY!” J.C.
    THE DAYS ARE COMONG WHEN THE PEOPLE WILL BEG THE MOSLEMS TO TAKE
    THEM OVER,THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANY OF THIS STUFF AND THEY HOLD
    THEIR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN IN HIGH REGARD. GOD HELP US ALL!

    • http://www.cherrygurl28.com Cherry Girl

      I do believe that our society has gotten out of hand with the movies, advertising and general behavior that has been slowly deteriorated. However, I do not believe it is because the LGBT community has finally, might I add slowly, gaining status as equal in the general public’s eye. I believe it stems from corruption allowed to seep into many aspects of our lives, including the government. It has stemmed from lack of adequate quality parenting, giving children balance. We need to be looking at history a lot more than we do. Sadly this is seen with less interaction with the extended family including grandparents and with general lack of enthusiasm in history. We glorify the wrong things and the wrong people and that too has cause many problems in our society. I do not think that religion is the total answer. I know that it helps people but sometimes it also is the problem. In this case it is a big part of the problem. In your bible you will also see where it says that man is not to judge one another and yet many Christians have no problem at all doing that. You all claim to hold the sanctity of marriage in high regard but I dont see a movement to actively help people stay married, prevent the events like the Kardashian family marrying for money, making it so that only responsible adults get married or even making it harder for divorce. I do not see a movement other than to prevent others from getting married. Seems very selfish and not Christ like at all. Maybe you should do some reflecting as a person and as a congregation and look at how you may fix yourself before worrying about others.

  • http://www.cherrygurl28.com Cherry Girl

    I do believe that all humans have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness whether they are white, black, Indian, Islamic, Christian, Gay, Straight or Bi. Who you choose to love should not change that. Who you love should not determine whether you are a second class citizen. What the LGBT community faces is the same that women and black people in the US, as well as all the others that have suffered in other countries. They are, on a constant basis, told that they are less, not human, God’s mistake, abomination, not worth of marriage, parenting or life. They hear this from a young age from government, parents, teachers, peers and others in society. It is truly sad that we as a society allow our government and churches to dictate what a human is. We condemn other countries for their treatment of their people but what about the treatment here in the US? Marriage should be basic right of all humans in their pursuit of happiness. Who are we as mere humans to say who deserves what? Are we all not brought into this world and taken out the same way? Do we not breathe, eat love the same way? It is all how you perceive the world and how you project that onto the world. By passing judgement on others are you not stealing God’s job?

    We also preach separation of church and state. We need to remember that the whole reason this country was started was because they were being oppressed by their government. Their government was pushing THEIR religious beliefs on the pilgrims. They left so that they would be free to have their own religious beliefs without judgement from the government. They made it clear they wanted a nation where people would be FREE! Just looking at the constitution that was what rings loudest…FREEDOM! Look around how free do you really feel?

    • Angel Wannabe

      Cherry Girl,_”What the LGBT community faces is the same that women and black people in the US”__They face an uphill battle because of they’re sexual choice and think it nessasary to divulge and exploit it, not because a totalitarian Government are oppressing them.
      If you choose to live outside of what is considered societal norm, expect to get treated differently, it the way it is. No amount of exploitation & sympathy will coerse, those of us who think Gay is perverse, into believing it’s right!_Personally I don’t care what they do, if ya wanna be gay then do it, I don’t have to like, accept or be around it and they don’t have to like me as a result of it either!__but stop shoving it down my and everyones elses throat!
      We are already well aware why this is done, IT’S CALLED GENERATIONAL INDOCTRINATION AND to de-sensitize us into acceptance___FOR ME, IT AIN’T HAPPENING!
      _ We are a Republic Governed by Laws, and suppose to be responsible for ourselves & Families first(except NOW, since the GUV seems to think they know how to live our lives better than we do)!

      • Kevin

        Yet, it is not a choice. So why shouldn’t gay people have the same rights and protections as everyone else?

        • Angel Wannabe

          KEVIN_I DISAGREE!__It is a choice, so is having sex with a turtle__
          Not all manurisms, behaviors are diseases nor are they mental disorders, some are excuses for your own choices bad or good (own up), and your own responsibility! God doesn’t make mistakes and then blame it someone else!!!
          Being gay is a choice, and BTW, so is having sex with your dog, even though our Government NOW THINKS THIS IS APPROPIATE AND LAWFUL TOO!__It still doesn’t make it moral or right!

          • Kevin

            Homosexuality is a noun, not a verb. It is not an action, it is a part of a person’s psychological make-up. We don’t get to choose how our subconscious is designed.

    • James

      Cherry, God determined what is right or wrong in the Bible.

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST STARKEY

    THERE IS PERSECUTION OF CHRISTANS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND YET WE DO
    NOT CURTAIL AID TO THESE COUNTRIES!
    THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES.
    PLEASE READ THE FOUNDERS.
    WHEN ANY SOCIETY LOOSES CONTROL AND BECOMES IMMERSED IN IMMORALITY
    AS NORMAL IT WOULD SEEM TO BE IN ITS LAST DAYS.
    THEY SHOULD BE ASKING THEMSELVES “WHY HAVE HUMAN DISORDRS SPREAD
    SOFAR AS TO THREATEN THE SOCIAL SURVIVAL OF A SOCIETY?
    WHEN YOU RAISE PEOPLE WITH NO REAL BEARINGS,THEN WHAT DO YOU EXPECT?

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