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Oakland Neighborhoods Tire Of Police; Turn Vigilante

February 28, 2013 by  

Oakland Neighborhoods Tire Of Police; Turn Vigilante
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If you want something done right, do it yourself.

That DIY maxim is apparently fueling some Oakland, Calif., civilians’ community-minded vigilantism. A CBS San Francisco report Tuesday featured a number of residents living in San Francisco’s less-affluent inland neighbor, all of whom revealed crime has become so commonplace that they’ve written off the cops and instead begun patrolling the streets and posting “wanted” signs for bad guys.

The majority of the ongoing lawlessness involved property crimes, and the report didn’t mention whether residents are packing guns. Some of the residents said they had been robbed at gunpoint or had witnessed armed robberies firsthand. Violence is definitely a problem in Oakland, and residents have little faith in the city’s police department to respond.

That lack of faith in law enforcement has been earned through many years of abuses, lawsuits, leadership changes and even a judge’s consent order either to reform the department or face a Federal takeover. It also doesn’t help that nearly all of the city’s police officers don’t even live there.

In neighborhoods that can afford it, residents have already begun pooling their funds to hire private security forces that patrol defined areas. The city’s police force, decimated by layoffs and scandalous resignations, simply doesn’t have sufficient manpower. The Oakmore neighborhood, home to Oakland Mayor Jean Quan, may soon deploy one such company.

But private security services aren’t comprised of sworn officers, and they can only disrupt crime as they see it happening. Thankfully, they’re not permitted by law to perform general searches or to detain suspects on a warrant. They aren’t connected to the criminal justice system except in the handing over of suspects they’ve been able to detain under the same legal authority any citizen has to make an arrest.

Oakland’s residents are used to vigilantism of many kinds in recent history, both within the police department and from the community. That activity has typically been marginal, thuggish or just plain corrupt.

Time will tell if Oakland’s neighborhoods can successfully arm themselves against armed criminals.

Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • Harold Olsen

    Vigilantism is something I’ve been expecting in this country for some time. I’m surprised it has taken so long. It’s become clear that we can not depend on the police to protect us. Oftentimes, and I’m speaking from personal experience, when the police are called they don’t bother to show up. And when you call back to find our why you get told they did show up and have already cleared the scene. When you dispute it you are called a liar. Here in Seattle, you pretty much have as much to worry about from the cops as you do the criminals. Polls have shown that the majority of citizens are more afraid of Seattle cops than criminals and that the only difference between the two is the cops carry badges.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      That would work good for rounding up the border jumpers to !

  • By George

    So, it has begun! What is significant is that it has made the news. But, it is not new. I recall a fleeting story several years ago out of the Miami, Florida area where a group of concerned black neighbors, tired of drug dealing right out in the open in their neighborhood, and the no response by police, taking matters into their own hands. Apparently an abandoned house was the center of criminal activity. The vigilantes, using firearms, drove the pushers and sellers into the house, then set fire to it, No one came out; problem solved. No arrests, story died almost immediately for obvious reasons. There is a solution for every problem. Just do it or suffer!

    • Dirt,23track

      Your story , in my opinion, displays the true defination of Justice! This type of response is effective, and appropiate and not possible by any Public Safety personnel! These are our Cities, Towns, and Communities. We have every rifgt, not just by the Constitution but by the laws of Civilized Humanity to protect and defend what is ours!
      I deeply respect the determination and courage necessary to take such action. Given the disingenuous nature of the Progressive mindset, it’s probable that actions such as these might need defending in the Courts!
      Virtus junxit, mors non seperabit!

      • Vicki

        Dirt,23track says:
        “Your story , in my opinion, displays the true defination of Justice! ”

        His story about burning people alive is the perfect definition of vigilantism. Then again the government doesn’t seem to have any trouble burning people alive rather than capturing and trying them in a proper court of law.

        2 obvious examples are Waco and that ex-cop in LA who the cops were so afraid of.

    • TheTruthHurts

      Can you reference a primary source (news article, police report) for this story?

  • Brad n TX

    Is t the Obamanation a wonderful place folks! Just living the Obama dream(nightmare)

  • dan

    not to worry…the cops will be back when it’s safe to strut and preen and bully citizens

  • jdn

    That will never stand in California , you can bet Feinstein is working hard to put a stop to this and make sure any publicly hired security can never posess a weapon for ant reason . Her security and safety is the only priority .

    • Randy G

      YES! They do not want us to use teamwork like the ‘Old West’.

  • Elected4Life

    In most rural areas of Texas there is no “Animal Control” (I.E. Dog Catcher), so if a dog (even a dog owned by an irresponsible or uncaring neighbor) kills your livestock, the rancher shoots the dog.

    Likewise there’s no timely law enforcement, so intruding two legged predators are sometimes shot as well. Take a lesson from ranchers you city folk; get used to protecting yourselves and your property! Nowadays there may not be anyone else to help.

  • Jimmy the Greek

    I believe that Oakland has a lot of black people living there and i see nothing wrong with them looking out for there neighborhoods , I have always believed that the men of the neighborhood should keep the trash out of the hood themselves , The police just need to stay in the doughnut shop until they are called to cone get the trash ( dead or alive ) This could be a good thing for the community , The thugs worst nightmare is not the police but a group of men that well do what needs to be done . Then let the police clean up what ever is left .

  • rendarsmith

    I think this is a good idea! Now if only I can find a radioactive spider….

  • TheTruthHurts

    Good for them

  • ibcamn

    Is vigilantism the right word if they are only patroling their own town?!if they were literally going out every night and shooting and killing the criminal element wouldn’t that be the term then used?!patroling is what we do around where i live at cartain times of the year(holloween,prom night,etc..)we just had a girl attacked and assauted night before last 2 blocks away,and everyone in town is looking and even the school sent out and home with the kids,flyers with a new description of the a$$ hole that attacked this girl!we don’t call it that around here!..(we have cops,but they are only good for harassing the kids and a speed trap coming into town)

    Oakland has always been in the news and it’s usually about bad cops!who knows,maybe the city of Oakland will finally be good enough for the working(not so crooked)cops to actually move to the town the get a paycheck from and won’t be scared to live there!

    more power to the people who live there!…

    • Carol J, California

      I won’t go into Oakland anymore. The last time I was there was while I was working as a company rep. That job was eliminated in May 1992, and I won’t go there again. I was ticketed by bicycle cops because I had beeped at them for sitting on their bicycles blocking a left turn lane talking to each other. Ridiculous. Some of the stores on my route were a bit scary to enter because of the persons hanging around the entrances. I was born in Oakland, but I no longer recognize the city because it has changed so drastically.

    • cawmun cents

      Dont hold your breath while the progressives run the state that any real solutions to inner city violence will be put forth….they are too busy trying to cover up their own criminal legislative activities.-CC.

    • Vicki

      ibcamn says:
      “Is vigilantism the right word if they are only patroling their own town?”

      No. Though liberals often try to tell us that self and community defensive action is vigilantism.

  • AK Tom

    Where are the usual libtard troll comments on this story? One of the main reasons I read the comments afterward is to see how ridiculous they can be. Oh well It’s early yet.

    • Buster the Anatolian

      They are too busy responding to the paramedics and guns story and the border patrol story.

  • jlmr

    Remember how the LAPD went after that man who “waged war” on the police? I’m sure if oakland that happen you’d find cops you didn’t know existed. It is sad that crime is so abundant, but that what happens when the gap between the rich and poor increases. We need people to be able to have the necessities to life, then maybe people will respect one another alittle more.

    • http://aol CommonSense4America

      I honestly have never seem anyone, except homeless people, that does not have the neccessities of life. When someone has airconditioning, manufactured fingernails, cellphones, cigaretts, six pack of beer, flat screen tv,,,,then that is beyond neccessity.

      • Vicki

        CommonSense4America says:
        “I honestly have never seem anyone, except homeless people, that does not have the neccessities of life.”

        Unless you were looking at dead bodies they obviously had the necessities. They were alive. That is also the point most people miss about communism.

        From each according to his ability. To each according to his need.

        You don’t need iPhones, iPads, movies…
        You only need air, food, water, protection from the elements.

  • http://www.facebook.com/michael.shreve.94 Michael Shreve

    In the U.S. government agencies at the federal, state, county and local level have a responsibility to ENFORCE written law. In the U.S. the authority of these government agencies to ENFORCE these laws comes directly and EXPRESSLY from the citizens. When the “government” fails in it’s responsibility to protect the citizens, the citizens, as the FINAL AUTHORITY, have an ABSOLUTE right to take such action as they deem necessary and proper. A government of laws does NOT supersede the safety and security rights of it’s people.

  • Josey Wales

    What many people don’t realize is that there is a time and place for vigiliantism. The proper time and place is for when the government CAN NOT or WILL NOT enforce the laws. In other words, if the government is so weak it is incapable of enforcing the law, or for some reason it simply refuses to do so.
    Remember this: The government (Federal, state, county or city) only has power because we have loaned it to them, to act on our behalf. But it isn’t permanent, and we can insist it be returned. This reason is why the Second Amendment exists.

    • Vicki

      When we take back that power we STILL have a duty to honor the principle of due process. We can’t just go shoot joe cause fred SAID that joe did it.

  • Nanc

    AND they (gov) want to take away the right to bear arms.

  • Chester

    This article makes me wonder if perhaps these neighborhoods are the same ones that police only enter in squads of four or more, and riding inside an armored personnel carrier. I do know there are more than a few of those in and around the San Francisco area, as well as some other big, and not so big, cities.

    • ranger009

      When you see what you discribed You know the criminals are doing a better job than the local police, But they sure know how to protect their own skin. When the police that are paid by the people to handle these problems FAIL Then the citizens have the right to do the job themselves.

  • cawmun cents

    If you cant afford the exterminator…you get rid of the rats yourself,otherwise you are stuck in a plague zone.-CC.

  • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

    Are the Black Panther’s back?

    • http://aol CommonSense4America

      I think it is more like The Guardian Angels.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Damn!

  • ranger009

    One thing about a well trained Private Policeman, HE does not have to read the bad guy any Rights. We had three Rights for the bad guy. Go to jail, Go to the Hospital, OR go to the Morgue.

  • ranger009

    The people of Oakland if not getting results from their local Politicians or Police, They have a right to go to the County Sheriff For advice on their problems and the best way to assist with these problems, That is if you have a decent Sheriff.

  • USAF VET

    In answer to Thetruthhurts, it was written up in the Oakland Tribune, plus the story was on Ch 11, 7, 5, and 2, which are NBC, ABC, CBS, and FOX channels respectivly. I never watch Ch 4 so I don’t know what was on their newscast. It may also have been written up in the Contra Costa Times, although I don’t know about them either since I don’t get that paper. I know it was in the Tribune because that is an Oakland paper, and the newscast on Ch 11 stated it was.

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