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NYC Schools Soften Discipline Code

September 3, 2012 by  

NYC Schools Soften Discipline Code
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Smoking will no longer result in suspension in NYC schools.

Smoking, cursing and cutting class will no longer result in suspension for students in New York City. Schools in the city are softening the discipline code.

Those who defend the new policy say that students cannot learn if they are not in school.

“Our goal is to make sure the schools are providing a safe environment for our students, but also we just don’t push students out of the classroom where they’re not learning as well,” said Chancellor Dennis Walcott.

Walcott suggested that counseling may be a better option.

“Well, I’m still extremely tough when it comes to disruptive students, but our goal is also to make sure if counseling is appropriate we put counseling in place for them and not just suspend. We will do suspensions when merited,” he said.

But some disagree with the new policy, including 14-year-old Brandon Aviles, whose friends have been suspended: “It teaches them a lesson and tells them not to do it again.”

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • old1

    How are the gifted students supposed to learn a thing amongst all these ignorant thugs? Oh? Are there any gifted students enrolled? Just give um all a crack pipe and a quart of Colt 45 and let nature take it’s course! They’ll come by to visit you one night as you sleep! Good luck! Sleep tight! The New Amerika!

    • http://twitter.com/mrmo57 Maurice Jackson (@mrmo57)

      Sounds strenge to me, no smoking in bars and parks or where you can get a bite to eat. But make it ok at schools. I can not get my head to stop shaking it makes no sence to me. How can ther do that?????

    • Gordon

      IMO the only thing many of today’s public schools are doing is producing street thugs with high school diplomas. Few can read, write, and do simple arithmetic. Let’s not even mention common sense or personal discipline. In fact, most of the colleges are awarding Bachelors degrees to those same poorly educated people, while the state and feds pat the schools on the back. Today’s college degree is of lesser meaning and value than the high school diploma of the 50s. The dumbing down of America. yep.

      • Gordon

        Also I must mention that schools are suppose to be teaching social interaction, morals, values, integrity, honor……… no God, no values.

      • Chester

        Gordon, you mention all the things THINK schools should TEACH, but for students to learn any of those, they need a really good grounding in them at home, Actually, a school teaches, and is supposed to teach, none of those, but it does provide opportunities for social interaction. The morals and moral values are taught at home,or they are not taught at all. The funny thing is that so many of our students come out with a halfway decent set of moral values with none being taught in schools, and so few taught at home. If you want a place to start in blaming for what schools can and can’t do, might start with yourself and what you have pushed off on the schools to teach just so you won’t have to.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Gordon,”

        NEGRO STUDENTS WITH POOR GRADES ONLY GRADUATE FROM “HISTORICALLY black COLLEGES” BECAUSE THOSE SO-CALLED “schools” “BABY” THEM. NEGROES OFTEN “BRAG” ABOUT BEING GRADUATES OF “schools” LIKE, Howard University. YET, Howard University IS AN “uppity little school” AND A “CESSPOOL OF BABBLING RADICALS.”

        ON THE OTHER HAND, NEGRO STUDENTS WITH POOR GRADES AT CAUCASIAN UNIVERSITIES ARE PLACED ON ACADEMIC PROBATION AND EVENTUALLY, “DROP-OUT” – i. e., THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS “DOWN THE DRAIN.”

      • WILDFIRE

        @Chester – With a name like Chester, I would assume you are older than in your 20′s. To claim that teaching children morals, values, integrity and discipline begins and ends at the doorway of the home is ridiculous.

        What do you think whacking kids at school that was causing disorder was? Teaching them discipline, if they get out of line, then there is consequences until the radicals whined and cried to have that stopped.

        What about pledging allegiance to the flag every morning in homeroom until they stopped that because they determined that the phrase “one nation, under GOD” was a tragedy and stopped that thereby stop teaching integrity and values to respect something greater than there self.

        What about teaching promiscuity and exploring their sexuality rather than teaching them to restrain and hold off on sexual behavior until they are married. Teaching them to have lower values and no morals, teaching them anything goes and marriage is an out dated document and the institution of marriage has no value.

        The schools teaching that homosexuality is completely normal behavior and not a mental illness, and telling students they should explore it. In other words condoning promiscuity and sexual perverseness rather than teaching them restraint.

        To say that these things are to be taught exclusively in the home. I wish they were, however the fact is Schools do in fact play a very big part in teaching immoral acts and lack of values and integrity rather than leaving it to the parents. How can parents teach their children morals an values and integrity and so on then send them to a school that teaches them completely opposite morals and values and integrity and respect.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “old1,”

      GIFTED STUDENTS ENROLL IN CATHOLIC SCHOOLS. IN TENNESSEE, STUDENTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE ONLY THERE BECAUSE THE LAW STATES CHILDREN BETWEEN FIVE- AND SEVENTEEN-YEARS OLD MUST GO TO SCHOOL. WHEN A CHILD REACHES EIGHTEEN – BUT, HAS NOT GRADUATED – HE/SHE OFTEN “DROPS-OUT.”

  • http://aol.com DEAN

    what do you expect it’s NY, city of brains.

    • Randy131

      No discipline, no education, for educating is the discipline of the mind to learn, and without it there is no learning, and with no learning there is no education, for discipline is universal, and so is the results of the lack thereof, meaning that the educational results of NY City will keep on declining, with no end in sight, for there is no longer any universal discipline required in it’s system of educating.

      • http://personalliberty.com Ed Weber

        And they want us to pay for their birth control, babies and welfare. Well La Ti Dah. I for one am beginning to not give a s–t. YOU CAN’T FIX STUPID!!! Not the kids,,, the educators.

  • Sirian

    Give it time folks, NYC will implode. Get a good seat, this show is really gonna be good!! :)

  • Ted Crawford

    I wonder what the odds are that if someone wears a “Pray Together” T-Shirt, that will still get them the BOOT?

  • nnicko

    Slap their hands, verbally of coarse, and make them say “Iwon’t do it again” and make sure they get a passing grade so the next group can attend NYC day care school. Hey New York, make sure you keep your little brats in the confines of New York. The rest of the U.S doesn’t need anymore in the other states!

    • teaparty13

      Yeah, and be sure to KEEP them in the Rotten Apple, Upstate NY doesn’t want or need the thugs here either. At least a few times a month you hear a news report of a teen/early 20′s NYC thug being arrested for selling drugs or involved in a shooting in the Albany area.

  • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

    Hey there,Yall missed the point , Those union teachers are not getting enough money!!

    • Chester

      Gottaplenty, I want to see you walk into ANY classroom, anywhere in the US and spend a day teaching,or trying to. By the end of that day, you will think teachers are UNDERPAID, even if they were making a hundred thousand a year. About the only people in education who get anywhere near that amount are the people who only see the kids as they walk by the schools on their way to the administrative section. Most teachers are doing good to see half of that, and only if they have spent half their lives teaching and no one has filed any complaints against them so they had to start over in a new school district.

  • victor hamel

    The NY Schools are simply paving the Roads… to Hell. Known as “Political Correctness.”

    • Gordon

      I was unsure where to tack this comment, so here it goes….. The last census said that 45% of NYC residents were not born in the USA…….. sorta like California……. AND soon to be most of the USA. Certainly “WE” cannot expect immigrants to learn, become real Americans, and actually read speak and write the English language. We would be oppressing their hyphenated xxxxxxxxx-American rights, wouldn’t we? This whole nation divided by hyphens, race, color, creed, ethnic origin has gotten out of hand. Unless and until we become a nation of Americans, this nation cannot continue to exist as it was.

      • http://Fries Rick

        “A kingdom divided” Eh? I think it is too late. The fall is going on as we play the proverbial fiddle. It is too late. No “going back” to “the way it was” – period. Say to say but true. So let us all take encouragement from “rearranging the furniture” as the ship is sinking.

  • nnicko

    Your right gottaplenty, more money,more time off and more sub-teachers and an instant increase in employment…what a plan. Hope the democ-rats don’t get this idea!

    • Chester

      Son, is NO mention of any raises for teachers in this article, just more counselors, who, by the way, do NOT have to be certified teachers. Actually, the idea IS practical, as long as they don’t let the kids run the schools more than they do now. You get the first time offenders some counselling, then promise them some in-school suspension the next time, with out of school suspension if the offense is such that it is needed, physical or verbal violence against a teacher or another student, or a repeat offense.

  • Ken

    New York – the sh*t hole of the east.

  • SGT YORK

    GOOD SHOW NY,now you have a thuggie school in total. HOW DUMB

  • Charles

    Translation: We don’t expect our students to be civilized!

    Ignore the fact that disruptive students make it impossible for serious students to learn.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    WHEN I WAS A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER FOR, Memphis City Schools, I OFTEN SENT STUDENTS TO THE PRINCIPAL’S OFFICE FOR UTILIZING PROFANITY IN CLASS. THESE STUDENTS WERE GIVEN THREE-DAY SUSPENSIONS. THEY DID NOT CARE – IT WAS A “MINI” VACATION FOR THEM. THE SAD POINT WAS, PARENTS DID NOT CARE EITHER.

    IN MEMPHIS SCHOOLS, SMOKING AND “CUTTING” CLASS ALSO RESULT IN SUSPENSION. WHEN STUDENTS “CUT” CLASS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD, A LAW HAS BEEN BROKEN – Memphis Police Department MAY ARREST PARENTS OF TRUANT STUDENTS.

  • flajim

    The explanation given by NYC officials is completely bogus. The schools get money based on attendance. Fewer kids in class = less money.

  • Bob

    Well, if we could actually do what really needs to be done we could cut loose N.Y., Boston, Chicago, Detroit, NewOrleans, and all of Calif., set them adrift and the rest of us could get on with out lives and get the country back on the right path.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

    NYC, crack down on guns but, don’t teach kids what is right and wrong? Sounds like the terp mayor is at it again?

  • ONTIME

    WELCOME TO THE HOTEL KAAAALEEEPHORNYA……..The whackos are in charge…still.

  • chuckb

    bob, you forgot one of the really whacko liberal states, washington. then add oregon.
    all major cities are nothing but a hot bead of dissent, permissiveness and drugs. most are heavily populated by illegals an minorities. most are home to our large universities and marxist professors, most are democrats.

  • David169

    It seems to me this is a capitulation or appeasement to disruptive students. It demonstrates that the the school administrators have no spine and are so gutless they are allowing the non achievers to rule and further degrade the education of those who want to be educated. This is nothing more than a further dumbification of the standards that should be maintained. I have read since the Department of Education started our schools have gone from number one in the world to number 37. This new program should take our public education down to at least 50 and make the schools far more hostil for those trying to get an education. It seems all schools have done in the last 40 years is drop the standards down over and over again to the level of the worst students (so they won’t feel badly about themselves). By doing so they have destroyed the educations of the majority of the students who would have been willing and able to learn. I am an employer and I am schocked at the limited, not even basic, education job seekers have. Presently college graduates have less education than high school graduates of 40 years ago. Education by it very nature needs to be competative. It sorts out those who will not put in the effort to learn. What good does it do to spend tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars to to supposedly “educate” an undiciplined young thug who will never be able to compete in the real world. In my day and age those who were never going to become successful professionals were taught a paying trade. There is no more “getting an education”. It’s gone and now the final capitulation by the schools administrators is to remove the rules of proper conduct.

  • nnicko

    Your right david…..Charter schools are the answer for those who want an education and boot camps for those that don’t. More jobs for the military. the instructors I had in the military made me want to to back to hand-clapper, pointer days with the nuns.

  • Old504Troop

    Some excerpts from “The Goals of Communism”- Congressional Record, January 10, 1963:

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
    19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    Notice that this was written in 1963. Kruschev told the world body his plan in 1959. It is sad that America did not take them at their word. Out of 45 stated goals to take over America from within, most have already been accomplished.

    • actual socialist

      You honestly think the people who wrote that knew ANYTHING about communism? hahahahaha the language above is designed to encite and enflame pariniod right-wingers nothing more nothing less

  • http://PersonalLiberty Flbelle

    14 year old Brandon should set on the board that makes these decisions. Apparently he has sound judgement, which is obviously lacking in those calling the shots.

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