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NRA Selling Concealed Carry Hoodie

April 4, 2012 by  

NRA Selling Concealed Carry Hoodie
NRAstore.com
Support the hoodie movement. Buy a concealed carry hoodie from the National Rifle Association.

I have decided to join the hoodie craze.

The National Rifle Association has a few products labeled new “on its website, among them: a book entitled The Blue Book of Gun Values, a holster for women to wear on a bra called The Flashbang and a water bottle. And then there’s a product that has many people infuriated: a hoodie that allows you to conceal your favorite licensed pistol.

The product description reads:

Inside the sweatshirt you’ll find left and right concealment pockets. The included Velcro®-backed holster and double mag pouch can be repositioned inside the pockets for optimum draw. Ideal for carrying your favorite compact to mid-size pistol, the NRA Concealed Carry Hooded Sweatshirt gives you an extra tactical edge, because its unstructured, casual design appears incapable of concealing a heavy firearm — but it does so with ease.

The product has been called ridiculous and scary. Nick Ramsay posted on TheLastWord.MSNBC.MSN.com: “For this, I have no words.”

But it seems like a worthwhile product to me. It costs only $64.95. That is a small price to pay for protection.

I think it would be perfect for those cool Florida nights — especially if you are involved in a neighborhood watch program and spend a great deal of time outside. According to the product description, it is comfortable and warm:

It’s the only garment of its kind we know of! Made from a pre-shrunk, heavyweight 50% cotton/50% polyester blend, we’ve taken a standard 9 oz. fleece sweatshirt design and added a full-body polyester lining for added warmth, durability, wind resistance and weight distribution.

You never know what kind of hoodlum you’ll encounter in today’s violent world. Walk with confidence.

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • Jake

    I’ve GOT to get me one of these!!!

    • Flashy

      Well…they’ve got to take your money somehow. Playing on the TP Trilogy of fear, hate and ignorance is the magic formula these days.

      Have fun with your fashion statement showing you live in fear and ignorance and care not for this nation.

      • Buck

        How do you figure that ??? “live in fear and ignorance , and care not for this country”

      • Carl

        Actually, I need one to carry my -licenced- cell phone so that I can call a liberal for help if someone attacks me or a fellow citizen.

        yea, yjat’ll wrok.

      • Ben

        I don’t have fear, but I do have a right to protect myself and my family. Remember last year at the Wisconsin State Fair when white people were targeted and beat up just for being white? What about the guy that got hit in the face with a hammer last week (for being white)? It seems that racism is alive and well among the black community as well as the white community and while we should be uniting against the horrible condition our country is in, the mainstream media is further dividing us.

        The hoodie is a good idea. An even better one is just to open carry so the criminals know right from the start that they will be shot.

        The truth is that there is the way that you’d like the world to be and there’s the way that the world really is. Don’t confuse the two.

      • Carl

        That was supposed to say
        “Yea, that’ll work”
        my trigger finger was ichy.

      • doorguy

        Well Flashy you better be very fearful of the street thugs that are packing! I have a carry permit and peace of mind knowing that if i need to protect myself or family i can do so! its my right and will do so if it comes to that!

      • cool hand luke

        Wow,guess you have never been burglerized,mugged,assulted,or raped or a family member.You would feel quite different after one of these.Im bearish on self protection.I,m a 60 yr old vietnam vet.If you were ever military you wouldn,t be saying this.

      • restorefreedom

        You can’t really believe this crap you spew? Cops aren’t there to protect you but rather bully and incarcerate. Is it a bad thing to take responsibility for you own well being? Or is it cradle to grave everything government?

      • NStar

        No fear here!!! Just like the little old grandma stopped by the State Trooper. When he approached the car she said “Officer, I have a carry permit and I want you to know I have a loaded 9mm in the glove box. I also have a loaded .357 mag in my purse and a loaded 12 guage under the seat. Oh, yes I almost forgot…I have a loaded AK 47 in the trunk.” The trooper was taken aback and asked her, “Lady, what are you afraid of?” Her answer, “Not a damn thing!”

      • Alan Lopez

        There are two types of people on this earth, sheep and wolves. Sheep believe and trust in government to provide for their physical security and in so doing, become easy prey for their protectors. Just ask anyone who has endured an oppressive regime .

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy says, “Playing on the TP Trilogy of fear, hate and ignorance is the magic formula these days.”

        I’ll say this about flashy: “Stupid is as stupid does” and you have no credbility either.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        NStar, very good! :)

      • vicki

        Flashy says:

        Playing on the TP Trilogy of fear, hate and ignorance is the magic formula these days.

        It’s worked for gun-control advocates for a lot longer so it must be a (liberal) magic formula.

        Have fun with your fashion statement showing you live in fear and ignorance and care not for this nation.

        I thought you were talking about the article. Apparently you are talking about all those people who are wearing hoodies (with the hood up) to show their solidarity with Mr Martin.

      • Shakeyjake

        You must be one of those gay commie liberals. get the hell out of our country and spread your weak-kneed liberal commentaries elsewhere——– LIke the middle east or any other muslim bastion .

      • JC

        Flashy ou twisted idiot…
        Afraid? hahahahaha

        I know a guy who has just a whack of full auto rifles and pistols, he carries open and concealed…

        Ask him what it is he’s so afraid of and you’ll get one word…”nothing”.
        It’s you idiots who do your best to feel all smug and superior (and fail) that are so afraid.
        AND THAT’S WHY YOU WANT ALL THE GUNS TAKEN AWAY, because you’re a bunch of bed wetting liberals. ;)

      • shavager

        Hate to tell you Flashy: the NRA catalog with the hoodies were printed long before the Travyon Martin case ever happened. They’ve had hoodies in their catalogs for several years including the CCW hoodie, the “Frontline” hoodie, “NRA Antiqued” hoodie, zippered hoodie, “Gadsden” hoodie with the “Don’t tread on me” snake. They are all NRA products available for order and have ZERO to do with the case in Fla.

      • CZ52

        shavager don’t confuse administration shill Flashy with the truth it will make his head hurt.

      • Pall Bryin

        Gun control is when a women draged into an ally raped, stabed, & chocked wiht her own pantie hose is morally superior than a woman who has to explain to a police officer how her attacker got a fatal bullet wound. Isn’ that a shame.

    • Robert Smith

      Hi Jake,

      Here is another idea: http://www.thunderwearholsters.com/

      Rob

    • http://mjlover4life.wordpress.com mjlover4life

      Jake I sure hope you aren’t black because you will be definitely be shot and killed by either a Police officer or a crazy Neighborhood watch “Captain”
      I have a teenaged boy he is also 17 and I would NEVER buy him one of these and he’s white

      • vicki

        There must not be any crazy neighborhood watch captains out there cause with all the people wearing hoodies with the hood up since the rabid publicizing of a local incident I have yet to hear of any more folk being shot by anyone while wearing a hoodie.

        Unless one of the unfortunate people in that Oakland University was wearing one.

    • Pat

      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote. Benjamin Franklin

      ‘Nuff said…

      • skippy

        I LOVE that one Pat!!! RIGHT ON!!! :)
        You really made my day~~~thanks!!

    • James

      If you want to look like a hoodlum who has something to hide, then buy one.

      • Robert Smith

        Or, if you want to look like someone who wants to wear something simple to keep warm…

        Claiming someone “lookins like a criminal” just because they don’t look like you is simple bigotry.

        Rob

      • shavager

        Hate to tell some of you folks out there–there’s a problem when you’re wearing a hoodie in 85-90 degree weather and you’re in a convenience store or bank or walking around in somebody’s backyard with your hoodie on. This is Sanford, Fla., it’s a lot warmer in Sanford, Fla. at this time of year than even upper Fla. in Jacksonville or Tallahassee area on normal days. If this was mid-Dec. you might ignore it, but when folks are out in flip-flops, tank tops, sunglasses and shorts and you see teens/young adults with hoodies on–don’t you think that might be a little suspicious? The media is driving this story because it does NOT fit with their liberal agenda, hoping to drive opinion in favor of the candidate that 97% of them support and he’s shown his stategic plan is to divide on basis of race and class warfare.

  • Richard T. Gridler Sr.

    I plan to buy one of the “Hoodies” for myself, and one for each of my sons. I think this is a great idea whose time has come.

    • eddie47d

      But that puts the Right and the NRA in another dilemma.Condemning suspicious looking people who wear hoods as evil little prowlers and then marketing the same product as a force for good. Now it will be who looks the sharpest carrying a gun and wearing a hoodie. That kid who may be ready to rob you (lol) or the patriotic gunslinger ready to do battle. Can the NRA overcome all the preconceived notions and make money? May the quickest draw win!

  • Deerinwater

    wearing a hoodie to do some wrong is like driving around in the dark with your lights out.

    • nam1

      you sound like your talking from experience!!!

    • Jake48

      The only thing that is wrong is ending up on a slab with a tag on your toe for being ill prepared.Registered or unregistered. The 6 “P’s” Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance….Nuff Said

    • Average Joe

      Deerinwater ,
      I think the problem is that you have been driving through life….with your lights off and an 8 track tape blaring in background…and that’s why you are so….lost.
      See no truths, hear no truths….speak no thruths……continue on your journey.

      • Deerinwater

        No Joe, I was a peace officer for 2 years. Criminals do stupid things because they think that they are “cleaver”, much like your feeble attacks directed my way, only make you the “fool” while you seem too stupid to realize it.

        You only do yourself a disservice with your uninspired clumsy attempts to marginalize me Doug.

        How old are you anyway ?

        You need to do yourself a favor and give up trying to be so cleaver. Just tell us what you know for a fact as your thought process is lacking and in need of work. You lack experience and education for what you attempt to do. You remind me of Ben, attempting to be cleaver.

        Now, if you like, I’ll devote more time to your posting if you would enjoy that? I’ll do what I can for you, but you need serious work! Try reading books! all kinds of books. There is hundreds of thousands of wonderful books that will take you many places and teach you many things.

      • Average Joe

        “No Joe, I was a peace officer for 2 years”

        Oh great…another procedurally trained …..half-wit…who would have guessed?

        • RichE

          Is the name calling necessary?

    • WILDFIRE460

      You must be referring to the Hoodie that the DNC has made available for Obama’s campaign.

      Voting for Obozo and wearing a hoodie representing him is doing wrong!

      Wearing a this hoodie by NRA is for protection for when a wrong is done to you.

      The only people that will use this hoodie to do wrong is basically the entire Obama voting base with the exception of the dead voters he resurrects on election day.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Wearing a hoodie to do some right is comendable…by the way, just what is a “hoodie”?

      • vicki

        It’s the kids buzzword for a sweater with attached hood. The name has been around for a while. I first heard the reference on a youtube video several years ago.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodie

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        vicki. it was a “tongue in cheek” question. :)
        Funny though, all of my bad weather clothes and raingear have hoods on them and until recently I’d never heard them referred to as hoodies.

      • absolutely amazed

        Since wearing a hoodie is perceived as a threat and justification for being shot dead in Florida and perhaps 26 other states, you NRA members who wear them should stay out of those 26 states – according to your analysis of hoodie wearers. And since most of the non-NRA hoodie wearers, or at least many of them, are kids, talking them out with your sidearms will certainly help control the population problems their mere existence causes. Fire away – plenty of examples the past several days.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        I’m not amazed at the ignorance displayed by “absolutely amazed” comment. Why post it under vicki and my comment, considering neither one of us mentioned the NRA is this little exchange? I guess it is what one can expect to hear or read from an ignorant liberal.

      • Vicki

        absolutely amazed amazes no one by writing:

        Since wearing a hoodie is perceived as a threat and justification for being shot dead in Florida and perhaps 26 other states

        Perceived as a threat by whom? Are you still talking about the Martin case? If Martin was slamming your head hard into the concrete over and over would you NOT consider that a threat?

        Oh wait. Never mind.

        plenty of examples (of people wearing hoodies) the past several days.

        Yet you have not come up with a single example in the last 100+ years of anyone shot for wearing a hoodie (not even Mr Martin) though I bet if you wore the wrong color hoodie in certain parts of Calif you might well be risking being shot dead. Certain gangs have been known to be aggressively defensive of certain colors.

      • Robert Smith

        Absolutely says: “talking them out with your sidearms will certainly help control the population problems their mere existence causes.”

        I know how to stop it!

        Call the shooting a “post-natal-abortion.”

        Then the extreme right will try to protect the BORN kids.

        And there’s more! Maybe one of them will take out Zimmermon as a post-natal-abortionist. Wouldn’t it be great if they solved their own problem! Maybe it woudl be even cooler if they shoot Zimmerman dead in church… But wait, that’s already been done.

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:

        Call the shooting a “post-natal-abortion.”

        Then the extreme right will try to protect the BORN kids.

        They already do that. In this case they are siding with Mr Zimmerman when Mr Martin tried to perform a “post-natal-abortion” using a sidewalk instead of a coat hanger.

  • jimmy the greek

    What would you need a hoodie for i Cary a Makarov ,and i just lose my belt and slip it inside the belt and the barrel into the watch pocket of my jeans wearing a tee shirt not tucked in you can’t see i even got Rosco with me works well in the Texas summer

    • Flashy

      I dated a woman this past weekend who came to the NW from Texas. She spoke about packin’ armor in texas. She felt she had to since everyone had a gun and she never felt safe. Since moving here, she’s sold her guns. She feels safe knowing few pack guns here, and if someone is packing, they’re obvious in being a few fries short of a Big Mac Deal and easy to stay away from.

      but then, Texans and those afraid and lacking courage always had a problem with needing to compensate for lack of testosterone….

      • jimmy the greek

        I have been carrying a pistol 90% of the time over the last 30 years all over the united states and even snuck the in to canada when i used to run my truck up there Fyi I never had a permit and still do not , not coping to anything however if i did have to use it i would not hang around to tell anyone .

      • Flashy

        makes ya feel like a man eh?

      • Carl

        Right Flashy, that’s why cops carry guns — lack testosterone.

      • RichE

        Flashy, is her name N. Pritchard?

      • Flashy

        Cops require it for their job. They do place themselves in danger. Most sane people don’t purposely place themselves time after time in danger. Most people are never in a place where there is danger.

        No…name was something else. She’s single and available. Want her phone number?

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        flash – wish she would read this – what you said about her – and see what a truly disrespectful absolute nothing male you must be.

      • Flashy

        Liberty…I’ll be glad to send her the link. She’d a) laugh at some of the posts; b) not give a darn.

        She is available, she has a phone number. And I’m fairly certain she knows I wouldn’t give it out to gun packin lunatics.

        • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

          you’re a tacky little man.

      • http://google gary gerke

        You sound like your living in CA with all the other nut jobs. Texas crime is on the decline becaise almost everyone carries a hand gun for protection. There was an incident not to long ago in a Texas bar where two men pulled guns to rob the bartender when they noticed around 20- pistals pointing at them……enough said!

      • Raymond

        Hay Flashy, if you haven’t lived in Texas, don’t knock it. The problem in Texas is te Mexicans. They all carry little .25 autos. The only way to protect yourself is have your own gun.

      • Average Joe

        “I dated a woman this past weekend who came to the NW from Texas.”

        A date?….with you? OMG, that poor woman! Where can we send donations to help with her mental health rehabilitation? My condolences to her and her family…May God grant them the strength to weather this tragedy that has befallen their child…….

      • Flashy

        (offensive attack comment removed)

        • gunny55

          Now Flashy I heard it was your sister. I was surprised because I did not know that Canuckleheads eh-holes dated their sisters.

      • Average Joe

        Wow Flushy that was profound…who helped you compose that piece of literary genius…a two year old…or Pee Wee Herman?……”I know you are, but what am I?”
        Psst…in the future, if you want to appear even somewhat intelligent…..try an original thought …just think (sorry, didn’t mean to push you into trying something new…too fast )…an entirely new sensation…original thought., Now go back to wooing your sheep….you’re such a Baaaaad boooooy……BTW,I heard from your Mom, that it works best if you put their feet in your boots…..at the edge of a cliff…they’ll do the work for you…..just trying to help make things easier for you .

      • Blue Devil

        Flashy — You really should look into the prospect of concealed carry! With your warped mentality, and your big mouth, eventually, you will need it!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        You gave it a good try, Flashy. Atta-boy. Put here, at PLD, when you’re talking anti-gun smack, you’re barking up the wrong tree. You even lost your temper…my my, so unlike you! You must really be passionate about your dream to dis-arm Americans. Tell you what; if you don’t want to carry a gun, DON’T!

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston…how was that an “offensive comment” especially as compared with the comments of me both by Joe and by Gunny?

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          If you have to ask then you are too stupid to understand. It’s quite obvious you were intending to stir something up.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Carl

        Flashy Said: “Most sane people don’t purposely place themselves time after time in danger.”
        Aside from the fact that the statement is less than accurate,
        I T O N L Y T A K E S O N E TI M E.

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston, thank you for the respectful professional response.

        Just to confirm, stating one dated someone’s daughter, i.e. a normal date between two unrelated adults…is offensive. Making a comment about incest (i.e. dating a sister) is deemed appropriate.

        Thank you

        • gunny55

          Are you kidding? really? Your gonna go there? Don’t wimp out eveyone knows you meant that as an insult. U are really an upright organ aren’t you.

      • Flashy

        Gunny…i stated a comment to Joe who it may have been as a comeback to his remarks …if someone wants to take it as an insult, so be it. I’d say Joe and yourself were specifically insulting … apparently Mr. Livingston and you disagree

        • gunny55

          You ment as an insult but you lack the manhood to admit it.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy, I can only imagine that she agreed to date you only after you bought her a couple of McDonalds hamburgers.

        Somebody must pay you to be stupid or you’re related to eddie and jopa. sheesh!

        • gunny55

          Hey I read something on this sight about some hooker trin to trade nuk-nuk for a Big Mac.
          Huh,makes you wonder don’t it.

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        flash it’s hard to back track and pretend innocence when you know what you said, you said it first and it was meant to inflame the others.

      • As Leandnidis said “Come and get them”

        Flashy, may a day come when you and all the other anti-gunners “need a gun and NOT have one.”

      • Wil

        Yeah,good one,a hoplophobic talking about a lack of courage.I see no reason to fear guns,or the people that legally carry them.But then,that lack of testosterone does tend to make people timid and fearful of loud things,right?

      • JC

        Flashy says:
        April 4, 2012 at 8:09 am
        I dated a woman this past weekend who came to the NW from Texas. She spoke about packin’ armor in texas. She felt she had to since everyone had a gun and she never felt safe. Since moving here, she’s sold her guns.
        __________________________________________________________

        Flashy you twisted idiot…
        Are you using the thoughts of a paranoid person to justify your own twisted thinking?
        Or do you just make this crap up as you go?

        You’re (imaginary?) friend form Texas might want to know that rape and murder still happen…even where you live.

      • CDSNov65

        We had an incident a couple of months ago where a guy tried to rape a woman, and she was able to get away from him. Many are not so fortunate! The last set of statistics I saw indicated that 1 out of every 4 women will be raped at some point in their lifetime. That is a staggering statistic. Our Sheriff, Chuck Wright, went on record stating that more women should learn to shoot to take care of themselves, as well as taking care of these people that are out to do them harm. I ran across a car last night that had a bumper sticker in support of our wonderful sheriff.

        https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3594998484399&set=a.1864772029819.106982.1556568701&type=1&theater

        Flashy, I understand that you’re anti-gun. That is your right to be that way. I would, however, suggest you go to your local library and check out a book called “More Guns, Less Crime” by Dr. John Lott. South Carolina has seen a decrease in violent crimes since the implementation of our concealed carry program in 1996. Check out that book, keep an open mind, and think about what you’re reading. If you start to see from that point of view, even just a little, come on down to SC, and I’ll take you shooting. My wife is a CWP instructor, as well as a NRA Basic Pistol Instructor. Until you experience shooting, it can be scary. A gun is a tool in some people’s bag of tricks for self defense. I choose to carry.

      • Deerinwater

        Flashy, that’s about the most stupid thing I ever heard you say, while I admit, I don’t read very many of your posting.

        I do agree, I think your Texas friend is a half bubble off plumb.

        But, Texas is like many other states, Louisiana, New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, we have grown up with gun, the need for them still exist. Maybe not so much in town, but in our great expanses, there is no law but there is 2 legged and 4 legged critters. ~ It’s up to the individual to provide your own security.

        It’s nothing to do with penis size or manly. It’s just common sense. We carry ropes and a lariat as well, they are not for hanging but for controlling stock. A small 300 pound calf does not respond to voice command well and a 1500 pounder even less. They will just look at you and walk off.

        Event come up without warning and these items are needed, no time to go home and get a rope or call the law.

      • Vicki

        Flashy says to Jimmy the Greek:

        makes ya feel like a man eh?

        He carries a firearm cause a policeman is to heavy.

      • Robert Smith

        Jimmy says: “I never had a permit and still do not”

        Proud to be a criminal, Jimmy?

        You are making it more difficult for those of us who DO comply with the rules to get a permit.

        Rob

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        Deer – I think you made some good points that the flashy’s of the world cannot grasp because they have no experience or understanding of what occurs outside the little confines of their own world.

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:

        Jimmy says: “I never had a permit and still do not”

        Proud to be a criminal, Jimmy?.

        Since laws infringing on Jimmy’s RIGHT to carry are unconstitutional and unconstitutional laws are null and void from their inception, jimmy is not a criminal for not having a permit.

        You are making it more difficult for those of us who DO comply with the rules to get a permit.

        Actually YOU are making it more difficult by complying with unconstitutional laws. Stand up for the Constitution and make government honor its contract with us.

      • JC

        Right on Vicki!
        The Second Amendment is the only permit any American requires.
        And it isn’t even a “permit”. It’s an enshrinement of out natural right to self defense.

      • Earl

        Hey flashy, or is it flushy? You might go down to Texas and hang out in Laredo or San Antonio for a while and see if you feel the same after you get mugged while on the Riverwalk, a tourist area by day……once those Mexicans or other thugs rough you up maybe you might think twice about us carrying a deterrent. incidentally, I have carried for 18 years now with no incidents. Criminals can sense when you’re armed by your demeanor. I only had to show a weapon once, and the would be perp beat a hasty retreat…Never even took it out of the holster!

        If as you indicate, you live in the NW, I guarantee you there are plenty of dangers in some of the bigger towns like Seattle or Portland, etc….Lotsa gun-grabbers though!

  • Bruce D.

    I think it is a good idea. Liberals have turned parts of many cities into drug invested entitlement zones. You can hardly call carrying a concealed weapon in those areas fear mongering. Every woman that walks or jogs should should carry a concealed weapon. where liberals have instill the idea of something for nothing. Drugs and the progressive idea that people deserve something for nothing is a dangerous combination and should warrant caution. Not everyone can afford to leave in a gated community.

    • Flashy

      “Liberals have turned parts of many cities into drug invested entitlement zones.”

      Funny..with a few exceptions due to conditions being economic (manufacturers closed or moved) i was thinking the most crime ridden cities are in Red States. Same with slums.

      • Average Joe

        You might want to do a bit of research before spouting off more of your stupidity….notice that I did not say “more research”….because you obviously have done NO RESEARCH at all…..Keep spouting your daily MSM talking points as though they are Gospel…and maybe someday, you’ll actually convince yourself that you have a clue (picture that being true). I thought about giving you some links to work from, then I realized it was you..and you wouldn’t read them anyway (it’s all a right wing conspiacy, right?)…So, since you claim to be a bright boy, I guess you can do your own homework ( not that I believe you will).
        If you don’t do any research…just come back and claim that you did…and that we are all wrong about everything….and make sure you don’t post anything to back up your claims…like you usually do.

        If you can’t dazzle us with brilliance……..baffle us with BS.

      • Flashy

        here ya go Joe … most violent cities in the US as cited by “Best Places to Live”. Oh wow.. they are ALL in the South in gun packin’ states ! Who woulda guessed ?????

        Large Cities (>500,000)

        Tucson, AZ
        Memphis, TN-AR-MS *
        Miami, FL
        Phoenix-Mesa, AZ
        Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR

        Medium cities (200,000-500,000)

        Myrtle Beach, SC
        Montgomery, AL
        Laredo, TX
        Waco, TX.
        Wilmington, NC

        Small cities (<200,000)

        Topeka, KS
        Pine Bluff, AR
        Monroe, LA *
        Alexandria, LA
        Florence, SC

      • Average Joe

        Nice try there lamebrain.
        As usual (and as I predicted) no verification of anything you just posted…. Just throw it on the board….it must be true…right?
        Maybe you should look into crime rates in oh….say, Chicago ( worst gunlaws in the nation) or maybe NYC…..gun restrictions….Or, how a bout Detroit, LA, San Fran?….According to you and your non-information….those must be the safest cities in the world…right?
        Keep fooling yourself…because you aren’t fooling anyone else.
        I have to wonder Flushy…Could you find your way out of a paper bag…if both ends were open?……I’m not placing any bets on that one….you could…. accidently…walk out.

      • Flashy

        Joe, i gave the site i garnered the list from. If you don’t want to believe it, not my problem.

      • Bruce D.

        I am familiar with Florida but not the other cities. From WPB south is very liberal and vote accordingly and that would include Miami. But you miss the point. It is the Federal programs that keep the poor without hope and any chance of a future. If you take away a person’s incentive you take away the person/

      • Carl

        Flashy said: “Funny..with a few exceptions due to conditions being economic (manufacturers closed or moved)”…

        Myrtle Beach? Industry has moved on??? What — Hillbilly Golf? What industry has movrd out of Myrtle Baech?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        There is a valid reason why flashy has no credibility here.

        Forbes – America’s Most Dangerous Cities
        #1 Detroit, Mich.
        #2 Memphis, Tenn.
        #3 Springfield, Ill.
        #4 Flint, Mich.
        #5 Anchorage, Alaska
        #6 Lubbock, Texas
        #7 Stockton, Calif.
        #8 Tallahassee, Fla.
        #9 Las Vegas, Nev.
        #10Rockford, Ill.

        To compile our list of America’s most dangerous cities, we used the FBI’s uniform crime report for 2010

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngiuffo/2011/10/03/americas-most-dangerous-cities/

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        IB Times 5 Most Dangerous Cities In The U.S.
        1. Flint, MI
        2. Detroit, MI
        3. St. Louis, MO
        4. New Haven, CT
        5. Memphis, TN

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Flashy, you’re attempts to portray the south in a bad light has again shown us why you’ve no credibility here.
        Just so ya’ know…this is how a cited link is supposed to
        appear:
        International Business Times list:5 Most Dangerous Cities In The U.S.
        http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/320864/20120328/f-b-flint-detroit-st-louis-new.htm#page2

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy, here’s one more for ya…just so ya know…one more time.

        Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America
        Even though crime in the United States has fallen for five straight years, we still are seeing areas of America where violence is getting worse! According to The Business Insider and FBI Statistics, here is the list of the Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America for violent crimes.

        http://v1019.radio.com/2011/07/06/top-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/#ixzz1r6PXEEUt

      • Average Joe
      • Wil

        You’re not going to convince anyone here that Zoo York and California are red states.Only libs are that ignorant.

      • JC

        JeffH says:
        April 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm
        flashy, here’s one more for ya…just so ya know…one more time.

        ___________________________________________________________
        Gee Jeff, I don’t understand why Flashy (the twisted idiot) hasn’t responded with some intelligent commentary and validation against your “facts”.
        Maybe it’s because he can’t and like all Libs, he’s full of sh…

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        JC, and that’s the only reason why falsy’s eyes are brown.

      • Vicki

        Flashy says:

        Funny..with a few exceptions due to conditions being economic (manufacturers closed or moved) i was thinking the most crime ridden cities are in Red States. Same with slums.

        This is probably why you should do research before you try thinking. Yea I know it sounds like an ad hominem attack and I apologize but with all the links others offered combined with my own experience it became obvious that you were either lying or daydreaming about some liberal utopia somewhere.

        Oh and someday you should consider learning how to post a link. Your claim that you referenced the source of your later posted conclusions did not parse very well.

      • Robert Smith

        From one of the violent cities lists: “Let us know and tell us if they are really as violent as this poll makes them seem to be!”

        They are violent.

        Most of the violence is related to the illegal drug trade. Note how they are generally at the intersection of two (or more) major highways on the way to big metro areas.

        Take the money out of drugs and give women the means to protect themselves and problems will go down.

        Read more: Top 25 Most Dangerous Cities In America http://v1019.radio.com/2011/07/06/top-25-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/5/#ixzz1rANZQxHm

        Rob

    • eddie47d

      Average Joe’s chart shows 4 Southern States as having the most murders then Nevada and Alaska. When it comes to cities they are usually categorized by population and NYC seldom if ever makes the list as some of you try hard to prove. So Flashy’s list could be just as relevant as anyone elses. Detroit and Flint are the most violent that I came up with and my hometown of Rockford was listed as # 9. Oakland was #6 and Stockton # 8.

      • JC

        What is the race demographic of those four cities?

  • jerry1944

    The NRA went to the lib side and i quit the nra when the backed harry reid for election they sold there vote for a shooting range..There are lots better gun right clubs that really are conservative. And since the gop want romney who loves gun laws and health care laws then we are going to have obambo for 4 more yrs so we better stock up on guns and ammo. After all the goverment just tried to buy all the hollow points

    • Bruce D.

      The NRA didn’t back Harry Reid. They said that they would not campaign against him because of the shooting range. Members could opening vote for whoever they wanted to.and were not encouraged to vote for Harry Reid. It was the union that elected Harry Reid. Management and unions alike encouraged and drove employees to the voting booths who in many instances might not have voted at all. That is what you face when one group is given money over another group or individual.

    • Don W

      To Jerry1944,
      I would suggest you gwet your facts straight. There is enough B.S. without any facts to back them up.

    • http://google gary gerke

      No worries mate, if they run out of hollow points at the stores buy regular ammunition and make Dum Dum’s they work the same way!!!

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      jerry1944 says…DUH!

      The NRA-PVF ranks political candidates – irrespective of party affiliation – based on voting records, public statements and their responses to an NRA-PVF questionnaire.

      In Nevada-Oct. 2010, Sharron Angle got an NRA “A” rating, Harry Reid got an NRA “B” rating. In every grading system I’m aware of, an “A” wins over a “B” every time. How some of you have believed the misinformation that the NRA endorsed Reid when they clearly gave Sharon Angle a higher grade rating is beyond comprehension.

      Do your homework and you won’t believe everything you hear.

  • noel

    GUNZ UP NRA!!!
    WRECK’EM TECH!!!
    OBAMANOS!!!

  • noel

    btw-they withdrew their support for harry reid under the threat of many of us giving them the boot…get the facts straight!!!

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      noel, that’s an outright fabrication! The NRA never endorsed Harry Reid!

  • Jay Printz

    This is plain stupid. The NRA has sold “hoodies” long before the Martin incident and I have had hoodies for many years, I have worn one under a Levi jacket 30 years ago!!! My wife wears a hoodie that I purchased in the Army PX in Iraq in 2003 that says, “OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM”. This is a typical “make something out of nothing” ploy. Or, in the vernacular of my area, it is pure horse pucky!!!!!

  • Dark_Archer

    THIS IS AMERICAS “”WE CANT WAIT”” CAMPAIGN !!!!!!!!!!!!

    We the People Demand a Full Scale Investigation into the Eligibility Requirements of Obama to be President and to run again for a second term. please go to the link and sign the petition then ask everyone you know to do the same , http://www.petition2congress. com

    lets help obama ,biden,pelosi,reid and the rest of the house and senate democrats who are TRAITORS of our Republic and Constitution find new jobs ..preferably making little rocks out of big rocks !!!!

  • Bruce D.

    Progressive are fostering a hostile environment. First of all you have Occupy Wall Street which was infested with violence and crime. Now progressives are promoting racial tension and hatred by race bating and altering the 411 call. You have a man who is Spanish with black relatives and black friends and the left somehow makes sure the word white is put in the mix to energize an ignorant base promoting lynch mobs with no idea what the facts of the case are. Class war and race war for votes. Then you wonder why people are buying guns in record numbers.

    • eddie47d

      Although your next comment was spot on and thank you for coming to someones aid. This comment here shows you have a few prejudices yourself.

      • Bruce D.

        And your comment Eddie shows that you are a race baiter in addition to being a socialist.

        • gunny55

          Yea but a “Socialist” is just a “Communist” in sheeps clothing IMHO!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, your comment shows just what and ignorant liberal will say. You have no credibility, you’re on PLD probation and you just reinforced the reasons why.

    • Robert Smith

      Bruce says: “Class war and race war for votes.”

      Yup. Calling anyone who needs assistance names, working so hard to deny any help to those in need, and demonizing anyone not dressed right, are all efforts from the extreme right.

      And now they are waging war on women.

      Rob

      • Bruce D.

        You sound like part of that ignorant base who is rushing to judgement. Eddie only assumes I am talking about black people because he is a race baiter and a socialist but it would apply to you and anyone else promoting false information like doctoring the 411 tapes to promote racial tension. People like you won’t be happy until you have riots in the streets with your vigilante mentality.

      • eddie47d

        It’s unfortunate that you made that assumption Bruce for where did I mention blacks? You seem to be the one invoking race baiting dude.

      • Vicki

        I think you mean 911 tapes and NBC should be boycotted by everyone for that blatant attempt to incite a race riot.

    • Robert Smith

      Bruce says: “You have a man who is Spanish with black relatives and black friends and the left somehow makes sure the word white is put in the mix to energize an ignorant base promoting lynch mobs with no idea what the facts of the case are. ”

      No, it ain’t race. Zimmerman was arrested for assault on a policeman. It wasn’t race but his fundimental nature bent towards violence. He was fired from his security guard job for being a nut case and untrustworthy.

      Considering the results of the voice prints made from the 911 call his claim that he was yelling for help is an outright lie thus making him a liar too.

      Rob

  • arial

    I LOVED the comments. Especially the one about carrying your cell phone so you can “call a liberal” to come and protect you. Hohohohoho. When I lived on the Indian River in Florida and called the police because someone was shooting at someone out on our dock at about one a.m. (I’m an armed woman but I was not going out there, I watched through the window) Thirty minutes later the police had not shown up and I had seen two people struggle and disappear off the dock. I called the police again and the dispatcher said, “An officer is on the scene.” NOT! Another 30 minutes later he knocked on my door and asked what I had seen, THEN went over to the dock. I learned from that. Better keep your firearm in one pocket of the hoodie and the cell phone in the other so you can call the liberal AFTER you take care of protecting yourself and your family. The people on this forum that say otherwise are just ignorant. I’m glad I can depend on Messrs Smith and Wesson and not them!

    • Bruce D.

      I lived across the street from the park and intracostal waterway in Florida. I heard screams that woke me up and called the police. I waited a little while for the police but couldn’t stand the pleas for help. I ran out of the house screaming like a Comanche at the top of my lungs. I did not own a gun at the time. Some men were attempting to rape a young girl. It was dark and I never actually saw them but my screams gave them pause and allowed the girl to get up and run away. I just got lucky my screams scared or startled them. I ran after the girl until she collapsed and stayed with her until the police showed up 30 minutes later. There has been reason to fear crime, violence and invasion from other countries sense the beginning of time. If you do not own a gun you are just putting yourself at the mercy of someone else. You have to hope you get lucky like I did or stay cowered in your house knowing someone is being assaulted.

    • nam1

      The police are not obligated to protect you, they deal in POST RESPONSE, Keep carrying!

      • Robert Smith

        See: “Warren v. District of Columbia[1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981) is an oft-quoted[2] District of Columbia Court of Appeals (equivalent to a state supreme court) case that held police do not have a duty to provide police services to individuals, even if a dispatcher promises help to be on the way, except when police develop a special duty to particular individuals.”

        For the horrific details see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

        Remember, when seconds count the police might be there in minutes.

        Rob

        • gunny55

          You are absolutely correct but liberals don’t understand that concept.

          • Don

            Try dialing 911 and explain your problem, when you may only have seconds to live?
            We have to make decisions,split decisions in all cases, have to be the right decision. When someone assaults you, or has broken into your house, by all means, call 911!?
            If, you have time!? If not? I would strongly recommend, you, to defend yourself!
            Woody Hays once said when throwing a pass, three things can happen, I’ll let you do the math!? Hint: two are bad.

      • Robert Smith

        Gunny, gunny, gunny… You posted: “You are absolutely correct but liberals don’t understand that concept.”

        Thank you for your support but…

        If I remember correctly you have called me a liberal on several ocasions.

        Guess your labeling just doesn’t work in real life.

        Rob

        • gunny55

          These posts are beginning to run together for me because I keep hearing the same old tired rhetoric from poeple like Flashy and others whose only goal here to stir up trouble. If I did call you a liberal and your not I apologize. That being said, IF the shoe fits wear it with my blessings because at my age patience with idiots no longer exists and it has become increasingly more difficult for me to give a rats ass. Just sayin! Anyway there are worse things than being called a liberal or a conservitive. I got thrown out of a liberal forum who supposedly prided themselves on being fair and quote ” looking for “intelligent dialoge” between them and us. They said I was too conservitive which is way off base.

        • http://gravatar.com/gunny55 gunny55

          My response wast to this post by nam1. Are you nam1?

          “The police are not obligated to protect you, they deal in POST RESPONSE, Keep carrying!”

          These posts are beginning to run together. If I called you a liberal and your not my apologies to you.
          However IF the shoe fits wear it in good health. There are worse things than being called liberal. I’m sure your aware of this. IF you are indeed bent toward the liberal agendea then I would suggest a move over to Huffington Post so you can visit with like minded people.

  • g2740cal

    It is NOT the responsibility of the police to come to your aide in the event of a crime. Rather, it is their responsibility to INVESTIGATE the crime, i.e., AFTER it has happened. While 99%+ of the LEO’s out there run TOWARDS trouble, they are not legally required to do so. With this in mind, you have one of two choices, either be able to protect yourself, your family and property by an appropriate force on force response, or become a victim. Your choice. I choose to NOT be a victim.

  • ajax

    Anytime Sharpton and the rest of the black kkk get involved you know it is phony. If living in fear was a problem I would figure a way to carry a shotgun instead. All we need is some laws to control those guns and we will be safe. Pattern it after the drug laws. That is working well for us:isn’t it? Better wake up and figure on protecting yourself, since the police will start to you sometime after you repeat yourself to the 911 operator;if you live that long. Laws only apply to honest people not criminals. Anyway you can conceal is a good way.

  • g2740cal

    If you choose to carry, make sure you have a backup + an extra magazine for each. Then carry at least two (2) blades for up close and personal use if you run out of ammo. Also, if you choose to open carry, be prepared for some strange looks from the liberals, like I really care what they think.

  • DavidL

    This latest NRA stunt is as insensitive and as cruel as President George W. Bush making a joke about looking for the missing weapons of mass destruction under the furniture in his office.

    • gunny55

      @DAVIDL Bite it you liberal moron.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Right you are DavidL. It appears that Gunny just does not know how to make an intellegent argument.

      • gunny55

        Pearls before swine DOC Pearls before swine.

      • gunny55

        By the way DOC this an idiots opinion not an intelligent argument or don’t you know the difference?

        “This latest NRA stunt is as insensitive and as cruel as President George W. Bush making a joke about looking for the missing weapons of mass destruction under the furniture in his office.”

      • Doc Sarvis

        gunny, so you don’t think that President Bush’s joke about looking for the WMDs was insensitive to all those who sacrificed their lives for the war based on Iraq’s WMDs?

        • gunny55

          Well DOC, no matter what I think about it or the comment about the NRA it’s still
          an opinion. Get it or are you still puzzled?

        • gunny55

          Flashy, I think you are only here to stir things up and for no any other reason.

      • Doc Sarvis

        gunny – taking the easy way out of answering my question. To answer yours; yes I do know the difference, I’m not puzzled.

        • gunny55

          No and yes as there are two parts to the opinion. Does that do it for ya Doc?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Of course Doc’s just being stupid…surprise. What does WMD have to do with anything in this tread? Nothing. Just an age old Marxist/Alinsky manipulation in an effort to change the conversation.

      • Robert Smith

        Jeff asks: “What does WMD have to do with anything in this tread? ”

        It’s a clear demonstration of just how much the extreme right is willing to lie and how insensative they are to the reality of America.

        Rob

    • sybucket

      As a life member of the NRA, I can state with absolutly certenty that the NRA Hoodie is not a “stunt”. It has been in the catalog for some time.

      • JC

        Exactly.
        I have an NRA conceal carry parka. There are also shirts, shorts, pants etc.
        None of this is new.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      DavidL, you’re another classic example of “stupid is as stupid does”. You ain’t even close to having a clue. Yep, Ron White was right.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

  • gunny55

    @Flashy

    Your a liar and and idiot all rolled into one nutty squirrel turd. First thing is no one and I mean no one in their right mind would move from Texas to the NW to feel safe. Isn’t that where Ted Kazenski the UNI-Bomber came from. Yea,no guns my ass just IED’s. You must be from the “Isle of Moronica” Do you even have a pair? From the way you talk you must have come from SF. ROTFLMAO!!!!

    • Flashy

      Well Gunny … I’d wager the odds of you being snuffed by a bullet are far higher than one living in the NW. But then, seems around here most folks don’t have low levels of testosterone…

      • gunny55

        You might be right Flashy but at least I won’t go out cowering in fear like a spineless coward. You might though.

      • Joe

        No, but they dont have a pair either…

      • Average Joe

        “But then, seems around here most folks don’t have low levels of testosterone…”

        Just low levels of intelligence…and that’s apparent every time you comment.

      • Robert Smith

        Joe says: “No, but they dont have a pair either…”

        Are you suggesting that women can’t defend themselves?

        Talk about streotyping… But, that’s what I expect from the extreme right. Thank you for such a fine example, Joe.

        Rob

    • http://firefox henry

      why knot live up in the northwest i live hear and i have lots of guns i never have locked my doors in 25 years.the crooks know i have guns and will use them.

      • Flashy

        Where in the NW? Rural area where hunting and fishing is everyday right? And you don’t pack in public right? Do you feel safe walking your neighborhood or would you feel safer knowing everyone you walked past was probably carrying a gun?

  • Dens

    I live in a hot climate and I wear my hoodie around the neighborhood all the time. It protects my head and face from the 85 degree heat during the day and keeps mosquitoes off my upper body at night. I figure a little sweat is worth it and I like the “gangsta” look.

    I scoff at those people who wear shorts and tee shirts and show their faces all the time around here. They are just too normal for their own good. I’ve only been shot at a couple of times but that was by crack heads who mistakenly thought I was “death” stalking their neighborhood. I (heart) my hoodie.

  • gunny55

    @FLASHY

    “makes ya feel like a man eh?”

    Eh? So is there something wrong with being a man or do favor being more on the feminine side? Are you gay or arte you a crossdresser from Canada? LMAO!!!!!

    • g2740cal

      BINGO!

    • Flashy

      Nope…i see no need to pack a gun in public. Seems you need something to make you feel like a man. Maybe it covers up the insecurities you have in your manhood?

      now…if i were in Texas, that’d be a different story. I’d be worried someone like Gunny would have a bad day…maybe the night before his wife laughed at his “ability’ or something because he was insecure….and at the merest perceived slight, he’d snap or want to prove he really was a male…

      A friend once told me about her dating life and experiences on dates where she had moved from … she observed there were more “wannabe men” then men. (She was from the South)

      Violence is the refuge of the incompetent (Salvor Hardin)

      • sybucket

        Flashy-You have got to be one of the most pathetic people I have yet heard of. You seem to have serious “Man” issues. All your responses involve testostrone…..which lead me to belive you, yourself, think you may be a bit short of that chemical so you attack in order to compensate for your own shortcomings. You have no rational arguments against anyone carring a gun other than “Makes you feel like a man”. Do you have this same response to Police or Soldiers? …oh, wait! Your going to say, “it’s their job”, but you completly fail to recognize how real life works. THAT is what makes you pathetic. I truly hope you never find yourself in a life or death struggle and the last thought through your mind will be….”They were right!. I should have had a gun”. But then again, you’ll probebly be thinking….”Where are the police? I called them 10 minutes ago!…..HELP!!”

      • gunny55

        LOL! Nothing like a quote fron a fictional character.

      • Average Joe

        Dang Flashy, you’re just full of yourself today…or is it something else you’re full of?…My vote goes to the latter.
        Could it be that you just angry because many of us have “lead” in our pencils…and you don’t even have a pencil? You also seem to be suffering from testicular envy…..grow a pair (of your own).

        • gunny55

          They call them girlie-men. LOL!!!

      • Flashy

        You guys have your guns at hand so you feel safe making those comments? GUFFAW ….

        • gunny55

          Not to worry girlie-man I wouldn’t even need a firearm if eveyone was as spineless as you.
          You have no argument other than being ignorant of the facts about concealed carry and those who choose to carruy and people who own frearms in general. It’s not your fault you jdon’t know shinola.

      • Average Joe

        “You guys have your guns at hand so you feel safe making those comments?”
        I sure do…it’s a rubber band gun…and the next round has your name on it…. you….pesky cockraoch.

        GUFFAW ….

      • Earl

        I’m not afraid! In the immortal words of Yoda of star wars fame- “You WILL be Then it may be too late……… be”! One day you WILL face your “gotcha” moment………

  • jopa

    When you are walking down the street with your new hoodie don’t start crying if a relative of Zimmermans comes along, grabs your gun and shoots your stupid arse.According to the Z wearing a hoodie is just cause to eliminate a perp.Adios Amigo.

    • gunny55

      Myself, I will simply excercise GUN CONTROL and return fire. Works for me.

      • Flashy

        Yeah…and people living around there will really enjoy the lead bouncing off the walls as you get yourself killed. And if you’re lucky enough not to get killed…hope you smile as you pay for the attorney showing you had just cause…and defending the lawsuits from people suing you for being whacked to the point of shooting the place up endangering them and their families

        • gunny55

          You watch to many movies girlie-man. Bullets don’t bounce off of center-mass. A head shot doesn’t count for boo at the range but it’s bullseye on the street. But you don’t even understand what I’m talking about,because I’m guessing you have never even held a weapon much less trained or fired off anything other than your mouth.

      • Flashy

        yeah gunny…as if most people will hit what they aim for using a handgun while panicking or rushing the shot.

        C’mon gunny…look around you. Can you honestly say you trust those people knowing how to use a gun? Seriously??

        As to those who would say ‘But i would because i know what I’m doing!’

        Uh huh …and the fish grows bigger each time the story is told …

        • gunny55

          I know that the alternative to not being prepared is being a victim. All anyone can do is to be as prepared as possible. Just being issued a permit is not the end of the process. Marksmanship is a perishable commodity. That is why most of us who really carry and I emphazise REALLY carry because a large percentage of people with permits don’t carry at all or seldom spend alot of time on the range adn doing situational awareness drills. The point is if the street crimminal thinks you could be armed he’s gonna give some thought to whether or not he should attack and if he does om most cases just showing the weapon is enough to deter an attack. Situational awareness is a key factor to not being attacked also. You have to travel and move around in this society smart and prepared.

        • sybucket

          Flasy-You are just an ignorant ass!

      • Flashy

        Well..we have Sy and Gunny stating they can do it every time…anyone else want to give assurances they would be ale to be accurate in gunfire in a rushed and panicked situation and have situational awareness?

        Anyone believe Gunny and Sy assurances are ones to rely upon ?

        • gunny55

          Did you even read the post you moron. You have shown just how little you really know about this subject. You don’t have a clue what situational awareness is and why it’s important. It’s a tool used more to avoid confrontation than to start trouble. Those who read my post didn’t read any staement that I made any assurance. What were you reading?

      • Flashy

        gunny…of course I read it. Seems there are few who would be packin’ yet be willing to give assurances they’d hit what they aimed at every time and have the situational awareness to not endanger people.

        Look..i pointed out people carrying guns in public is not a sane rational idea. I gave a the list of cities which have the highest violent crime rate per capita…and they are all in states which have lax gun laws. When i made my comment, before the list, I did state there may be a few exceptions where economic conditions were in the dumps ( I was thinking of Detroit etc).

        OK..now what’s there to argue when the facts are before you?

        • gunny55

          This post is about concealed carry.Concealed Carry is not a lax gun law. Crime and Violence has existed since Cain and Able. Bad people do bad things,alweays have and always will. Concealed Carry has not been allowed that long. Being prepared and protecting ones family is perfectly sane and rational. You have no argument with me because I will not be a victim. Someone once asked me a question and I’m gonna ask you the same question. If you ever under any circumstance no matter where were confronted by person or persons intent on causing you or your family bodily harm or death,What would you do? I can tell you from first experience that the instinct for survival will trump your antigun,anti violence notions you think you have now. If not you will simply be another deer in the headlights. Stress some of which is brought about by drugs, love of money, loss of compassion and people unwilling to own their bad behavior have brought society to the brink of anarchy and if you can’t cope with it you will be a victim. Utopia doesn’t exist anywhere.

      • Vicki

        Flashy says:

        i pointed out people carrying guns in public is not a sane rational idea.

        You forgot to say “in YOUR opinion” and we all know what that is worth, especially from you.

        Lets ask this lady if failing to carry a gun in public was a sane rational idea as you claim.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis

        Or lets ask this store clerk
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGOmtyTJ2f0

        Or this one
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=J6gcFPjdwiI

        Or this store owner who probably wish that he had the gun at his side instead of having to run for it. Bet he wouldn’t agree with your definition of sane.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV4Xqt62pf8

        Or this lady who also was not carrying it. But it was close by. Bet she would have preferred to be wearing it that day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ps1ZC1-Qw

        I can find LOTS more of these on Youtube. Most are in stores cause that is where most surveillance cameras are.

        Oh and lets ask these 2.5 MILLION people a year that chose not to be a statistic in Flashy’s anti-gun fantasies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-wBwpL-pIE

        http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/noframedex.html

        Why have you not heard of all these? Is the evil MSM who is well known for hiding relevant facts ( like a dispatcher asking Zimmerman a key question about Martin )
        No. It is cause a crime DIDN’T happen so most people didn’t bother the police since there was no mess to clean up.

        Every once in a while I will take pity on liberals and help them find counter arguments.
        http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/103.myth0.pdf

        I gave a the list of cities which have the highest violent crime rate per capita…and they are all in states which have lax gun laws. When i made my comment, before the list, I did state there may be a few exceptions where economic conditions were in the dumps ( I was thinking of Detroit etc).

        With your credibility here I hardly think you would expect us to accept your list without a cite.

        A cite will appear in blue text. As you see above all the blue text is links to one or more cites to give evidence to my list.

        OK..now what’s there to argue when the facts are before you?

        Some of us are still waiting for you to bring some facts to present before us.

        Oh and for amusement here are some more facts.
        Here are the 10 safest cities.
        http://content.usatoday.com/communities/greenhouse/post/2010/09/safest-us-cities-may-suprise-you/1#.T32C8dXAnRg

        The list probably comes close to flashy’s fantasy list.
        Boston
        Columbus, Ohio
        Louisville, Ky
        Minneapolis, Minn.
        New York
        Portland, Ore
        San Francisco
        Seattle
        Tampa, Fla
        Virginia Beach, Va

        But when you read WHY you discover just how much fun you can have with statistics
        First the actual content starts with “The 10 safest U.S. cities for families with young children…”

        Then you limit it to the 50 largest U.S. cities.

        Then choose 20 factors which include:
        air quality, smoke alarm requirements, pool safety, bike helmet rules, fire response time, accident rates, Number of hospitals, number of police and firemen per capita

        and my favorite

        “It filtered out cities with the highest crime rates.”

      • Vicki

        That last post was getting pretty long so I broke it in half. This 2nd post may actually appear first cause the earlier post is in “moderation” cause I needed more than 1 cite to make my point to Flashy.

        Now lets look at the city crime rates. (2011)
        http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011/City_Lo-Hi_2011.pdf

        Next we would need to overlay the cities with the city or county blue/red statistics and maybe with the poverty index. Many many facts yet to be presented. It will give flashy something to do :)

      • JC

        Right On Vicki.
        Gotta love the truth!

  • Joe

    Lined with kevlar would be nice!

    • gunny55

      AMEN, Spoken like a true patriot in arms.

    • g2740cal

      Under a layer of chainmail to resist blades.

      • gunny55

        Thats what I’m talkin about.

  • http://Thiscountrywillneverreboundwiththisgoingon,never. Don

    Fact: Wide open borders; Rampant crime. Social Security: Voted to spend it, it’s broke.
    Free Trade Agreements: Millions upon millions of jobs going to foreign countries for cheap labor. Investers, investing in American jobs in foreign countries are making a killing.
    Free Health Care: This could very well be the end to your “Freedom of Choice”. I might be wrong, but does this give the government access to bank accounts? The Supreme Court,
    said they’er not going to read 2,700 plus pages of this health care bill. I’m not either! If it’s that long, it’s GOT to be WRONG!? Of course, the good ol’ boys are exempt!? Wonder why? You!?

    • gunny55

      AMEN!!!

    • JC

      All good reasons to arm yourself to the teeth.
      America is crumbing under this Kenyan Imposter
      and we’re very probably going to need real Americans to save the country from these moron socialists.

  • http://firefox henry

    call a cop call fore a pizza and se witch one gets thier first.it shure as hell wont be a cop/one lesson i just lernd dont lone a shotgun to a frend or so caled frend.the bitch hocked my shotgun now i have to buy it back as the cops wont do nothing.period. hank.

    • nam1

      God i’m sorry to hear that….Piece of pizza?

    • JC

      Guns are personal henry, I would no sooner lend a gun than I would my wife or dog.

  • dan

    thanks for the suggestions ,guys. I was having a problem with my cross-draw rig and my suspenders…but the Kevlar and chain mail were priceless,lol’s.

  • http://priscillaking.blogspot.com Priscilla King

    Thanks for the chuckle. Personally I’ll pass on anything that has polyester INSIDE, where I’d feel it, urgh. (I’m an armed woman–with a knife–sometimes in a pocket, sometimes on the bra band.)

    • nam1

      Thanks,now i know were to look!

  • RichE

    Add ‘Gun Carry’ insurance to the list. Scary!

  • Big Red

    Our commie government love sheeple like flashy. We’ll take care of you flashy, we have your back flashy. You can trust us flashy. It’s sheeple like flashy who will re-elect what’s his name and then you can kiss this beautiful land good-bye. Unfortunately this country has to many flashy’s.

  • http://2012orbust. Don

    Our Constitution, when followed, is the greatest document ever written, and I’m certainly not going to mention individuals, races, tribes or anything else, that was treated unconstitutionally. They know who they are, and so do I. I guess what I’m trying to say is, it’s still going on! Any time, you are ask to vote on anyone’s rights, you are clearly violating their rights. Would you say to an elderly person, your too old, or too sick, and just let them die? By this I mean, we had a vote, and we voted to let you die!? What!? Are we really coming to THIS? I may be wrong, and I’m sure there’ll be those who will say I’m wrong, but I want my country, liberties, and rights back. I’m voting for Ron Paul, Don’t give me any reasons why your not voting for him, I don’t care! And, I’m not going to give you any reason too vote for him. If you like the status quo, go for it!

    • Average Joe

      Well spoken and a great choice of candidates!
      Ron Paul / Andrew Napolitano 2012!

  • ARIC

    Hey flashy, you idiot, you are wrong about higher crime rates in RED states. Crime in New York & California? – both blue states. But, you just go ahead and scurry around in your little liberal fairy land where there are no firearms and BE SAFE – until, GOD forbid, you become a victim (now THAT would be terrible – sarcasm). Maybe then you will see fit to keep that filthy sewer under your nose shut. It’s people like you that are responsible for how F’D up things are in this country. People as stupid as you, shouldn’t be allowed to vote!!! The left insists that there is no need for the 2nd Amendment because it wants it’s subjects unarmed. “An armed person is a citizen, an unarmed person is a subject.”

    • gunny55

      I think Flashy is just another Canucklehead Eh-hole from Quebec.

      • ARIC

        I don’t know, but he certainly sounds quite ignorant…

      • JC

        Canada just scrapped its long gun registry and destroyed the data base.
        First time in history its been done anywhere.
        They’ve also stepped back from the UN Small Arms Treaty. They don’t think hunters and target shooters should be candidates for global registration.

        We could take a lesson from the “Canuckleheads” there Gunny…

    • Flashy

      i listed the top cities for violent crime. Try again. Frippin’ idiot…

      • ARIC

        Sorry [offensive words removed] – I missed your list. I am hanging on your every word. Are you telling me that NYC and LA didn’t make the list? That’s honestly a surprise… Let me ask though – how many of the states you listed are red states? Now I haven’t looked them up, but I’ll bet there are some blues in there.

      • Flashy

        My apologies as well for uncalled for labelling of intelligence. That’s the list of cities with highest violent crime rate from the Top places to Live. I was as surprised as you that Detroit, Newark etc didn’t make it on the lists.

        Yes…all are red States. All have lax gun control laws for carrying in public places..

      • Doug

        [offensive comment removed]

      • Flashy

        Doug…another one who has insecurity issues about his manhood … feel better now that you got to publicly strut your stuff ?

      • Vicki

        Flashy writes:

        …Top places to Live. I was as surprised as you that Detroit, Newark etc didn’t make it on the lists.

        That’s cause they filtered out all those places that are not fit to live in. :)

        • http://gravatar.com/gunny55 gunny55

          test

      • Vicki

        Flashy says:

        i listed the top cities for violent crime. Try again. Frippin’ idiot…

        You gave us a list from your dreamworld. We know this because you offered no link to evidence to support your list. Here is my list. Funny that Detroit and Newark are both on it and near the top.

        Top (bottom actually) honors go to Flint MI with a score of 423.10

        Camden, NJ
        —> Detroit, MI
        St Louis, MO
        Oakland, CA
        Cleveland, OH
        Baltimore, MD
        Jackson, MS
        —> Newark, NJ
        Richmond, CA
        New Orleans, LA

        Now if I were flashy I would either stop there or give some vague reference to where I claim I got my figures. Say like the CQ Press.

        Now watch carefully Flashy. The next line is what is called a link. Learn how to use it.
        http://os.cqpress.com/citycrime/2011/City_Lo-Hi_2011.pdf

        In Flashy’s defense I will point out that the PDF file I linked to has its source listed on the bottom and they didn’t make it a link either. It was however very specific and PDFs did not always allow links to be imbedded in them.

      • Average Joe

        Flashy,
        I would think that Detroit would be on everyone’s list as a top place to live…after all, the last time I checked…you can still buy a house in Detroit for under 50 bucks…the only drawback…you have to live there…..LMAO…….

  • http://Aol CommonSense4America

    I have a concealed carry permit. Nice to know I can now carry with a hoodie. Hoodies are nice IF the weather is not so nice. I see more than a few people wearing the hoods up in warm temps and no rain. I always wondered why. I found out the hard way. My neice….wearing one when it was not necessary. Come to find out it’s to conceal your identity and/or so people can’t see your glazed eyes while your on drugs.
    I can now carry with a hoodie (I don’t use the hoodie part though…even if it’s raining.). I generally also carry a back-up. Friends ask “Why do you carry? What are you afraid of?” My answer ” Not a darn thing “.

  • stormy

    Trying to reason with a liberal is like trying to put salt on a birds tail to catch it.Why waste your time?They have been brain washed for to long.They will also be the first people screaming when they have no liberties left.I’ll bet that they don’t know that bho signed an Executive Order that prohibits speaking out against in the presence of any politician & on any gov. property. That the Supreme Court made it legal to strip search anyone arrested for any reason.That all new kitchen appliance,computers,tv’s & even door bells will have monitoring devices in them.They will be able to listen & see everything going on in your home.By the way,why does DHS need 450 million rounds of high powered hollow point ammo? It surely isn’t to protect our borders,now is it.So go ahead & stick with your liberal mindset & see where it gets you in the end.You will be in the same position as the rest of Americans who have lost our freedoms in this great nation,it things aren’t turned around soon.

    • gunny55

      DHS knows there will be a fight when they try to disarm the population. And they aren’t wrong.

  • gunny55

    @ Flashy Here’s a news flash for you Flashy. High violence and crime have nothing what so ever to do with Concealed Carry. If you bothered to check you would know that.
    Concealed Carry Permit holders have to pass an FBI background check and be finderprinted to even be eligible for a permit. 99% of all permit carriers are law abiding citizens who only want to protect themselves as well as their family and belongings from miscreants and drug addicts who roam the streets everwhere looking for an easy mark. They are the ones who cause the violence and crime. But you know that.

    • Flashy

      Unless job related, there is no rational reason to pack a gun while in public.

      • gunny55

        My job is to protect myself and my family therefore I submit it is job related.

      • ARIC

        Tell that to the criminals IDIOT!!!

      • ARIC

        Gunny, that one was for flashy.

        You know flashy, it is your right not to arm and protect yourself, but it is not your right to advocate that the rest of us may not. Why do libs think they should speak for everyone?

      • Flashy

        because in your home you can have an arsenal for all i care. But when someone carries a weapon in public places, then it affects MY safety. And quite frankly, the vast majority of those who would carry a gun in a public place are more than a tad bit loose upstairs and have no clue what they’re doing.

        Ever see or hear of the city hunters who freeze and get buck fever when the moment presents itself? Ya think those guys are safe to be around if they had weapons in a city??????

        or how about the situation and the “proving manhood’ factor? Walking by an alley. Could take it for a shortcut. There’s a bunch of rough looking characters hanging out. Now, unarmed…i’m not about to present myself as red meat for the dinner table, and i’ll walk around the block. As would any sane person. Right? But there are more than a few who’d think they’re Clint Eastwood or someone…and walk down that alley because they have a gun, and dammit..they’ll use it if they are confronted. And pretty soon they’re all worked up and “perceive’ they’re in danger, turn and start shooting off rounds. So when all hell breaks loose, would you like to be walking past that alley at the wrong moment when the lead starts flying?

        • gunny55

          Give us an example of some of this fairytale rhetoric of yours. Dates and times please.
          Your supposed to be in a safe place remember? How are threatened.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        flashy, can you even define rational…as your thinking process is irrational. OOPS, your pet peeve…and yes it is a recognized word.

      • Flashy

        JeffH…it’s Irregardless.

        BTw…since we don’t have the laws allowing people to pack and endanger everyone in public, you well know i cannot cite what you ask for. Nice try, falls flat. Most of the educated people in this world have common sense and a grip on reality…not needing to fantasize about being a Clint Eastwood

        • sybucket

          Flashy
          There is no such word as “Iregardless”.
          To say that there are no laws allowing people to “pack in public” is incorrect….Thats what a CCW is for. In many states, like the one I live in, “Open Carry” is legal and there are some states, like Vermont, where there are NO GUN LAWS at all!!. This should give your heart palpatations…… On ther other hand, arguing with an idiot is a total wast of time so I’m out of here…..and well armed.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        falsly, just who are the educated people? You never answered the question…FYI, “common sense” is PC code for unsound judgement. I know ’cause I live in Liberal run California.

      • eddie47d

        When are you going to answer the questions asked you Jeff? Nothing but duck and cover from you and another thing keep your lying false allegations about me to yourself. That’s getting really oooold!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, when you prove it you ignoramous!

        Yada, yada, yada…Polly want a cracker? Yepper, you just can’t be fixed!

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        …and eddie, what lying and false allegations about you?
        Fact: you are a proven liar
        Fact: you are a slanderer
        Fact: you are on “probation”(indefinite moderation) at PLD
        Fact: you can’t be fixed…your’s is forever!

        None of the above are a lie or a false allegation

      • Vicki

        Flashy says:

        Unless job related, there is no rational reason to pack a gun while in public.

        Repeating your opinion over and over is not going to make it so. Somewhere above when it gets out of moderation I have given at least 5 links to rational reasons to pack a gun while in public.

        Not on that list is your DUTY to protect your life and the lives of your fellow law abiding citizens. The BEST method to do that when confronted with serious harm is with a gun. That is EXACTLY why police wear them.

        And remember police do NOT wear guns to do their job of investigating crimes. They wear guns to protect THEMSELVES and sometimes their and your fellow law abiding citizens.

      • JC

        Flashy says:
        April 4, 2012 at 12:36 pm
        Unless job related, there is no rational reason to pack a gun while in public.
        __________________________________________________________
        Flashy you freaking idiot…there’s no end to rational reasons
        to maintain the right and the ability to defend yourself.
        What planet are you from anyway?

  • sabulaman

    Flash, I was surprised to read way back in the beginning, that you dated a woman last week.

    • gunny55

      [offensive comment removed]

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Gunny55, if you reach that point again use the exclamation point. We will know what you mean to say.

      • Earl

        Gunny, WHY do you (and everyone else for that matter) even BOTHER with responses to the great flashy??? It’s a total waste of time! The guy is either a plant or has lost all sense of logic and proportion, let alone the ability to reason. If everyone IGNORED him, he’d feel lonely and go away! His mind is MADE UP!

    • rocketride

      Flashhole DID mention that she’s “available”, which sure doesn’t sound like there won’t be a second date anytime soon. Must have pained him to admit that, but Is anyone else here surprised by it?.

      BTW, who is sicker? The person who thinks guns are substitute genitalia or the one who thinks that AND wants to castrate everyone?

      • rocketride

        OOPS that should have read:

        Flashhole DID mention that she’s “available”, which sure doesn’t sound like there will be a second date anytime soon. Must have pained him to admit that, but Is anyone else here surprised by it?.

        BTW, who is sicker? The person who thinks guns are substitute genitalia or the one who thinks that AND wants to castrate everyone?

  • http://turingschild.wordpress.com turingschild

    What? No Kevlar lining? ^^

  • ranger hall

    Once in the LA area, A policeman was Patrolling and on the sidewalk two elderly people was walking, He noticed the man was carring a paper bag with what appeared to be the stock of a weapon, He had the driver pull over and approched the couple and asked what was in the bag, the old boy replied A shotgun, he handed him the bag, Inside was a double Barreled sawed off very short, This couple was in their 70s.he asked him Why he had this. he said 6mos ago they had just left the grocery story after cashing their SS check and bought a few Groceries when 4 black men attacked them and took the money and food, but then started beating on his wife and himself. his wife almost died was in the Hospital for two months, he also spent a month in the hospital. The Police were never able to to find the Bad Guys. He stated that he was never going to allow this to happen to them again, So he went and bought the shotgun and cut it off so he could carry it with them, The Policeman checked with the station, his story checked out. Well the Policeman gave the bag and its contents back to the man and drove away. Was the Policeman wrong or was he right,

    • gunny55

      Right as rain as far as I am concerned.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What year was this. California is one of the most restrictive gun states in the country.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        My apologies, I was reading LA as Los Angeles.

    • Flashy

      Yeah…a sawed off shotgun …. now that sounds like a true story.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Had to be in Louisiana(LA) or prior to the NFA.

      Under the National Firearms Act (NFA), it is illegal for a private citizen to possess a sawed-off modern smokeless powder shotgun, that is a shotgun with a barrel length shorter than 18 inches or an overall length shorter than 26 inches without a tax-paid registration from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, requiring a background check and either a $200 or $5 tax for every transfer, depending upon the specific manufacturing circumstances of the particular sawed-off modern shotgun being transferred.

      Short-barreled muzzleloading blackpowder shotguns, in contrast, are not illegal by federal law and require no tax-stamped permit, although they may be illegal under state law.

  • Alex

    Wayne Lapierre and his NRA Flying Monkeys LOVE IT when the blood of our children flows down the gutter—-to them, the blood smells like “Freedom”.

    • gunny55

      Here we go again. They’re coming out of the woodwork. What is it with you people? Is it a slow day at HUFFINTON POST? Give me a break.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      I think your keepers will be muzzling you soon. You are giving them a bad name.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Alex is has taken the mindset of the Maxinne Water’s and Eddie47D’s…imagine that.

      Why is it that these liberals, much the same way as Obama does, have to bring “these poor children” into their comments. Only the ignorant stupid people buy into that “emotional” arguement krap.

      • Alex

        Okay, JeffH—-Lapierre and his NRA Flying Monkeys LOVE IT when the blood of PEOPLE flows down Amerikkkan gutters….

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Alex, I’ll refer you to the above comment.

    • JC

      Alex says:
      April 4, 2012 at 1:09 pm
      Wayne Lapierre and his NRA Flying Monkeys LOVE IT when the blood of our children flows down the gutter—-to them, the blood smells like “Freedom”.
      ________________________________________________________________

      A perfect example of your average hysterical liberal trying to paint a picture that simply isn’t real. You people really should get away from your meds…they’re screwing your head up.

    • shavager

      That is one of the stupidest, most asinine statements made on here–Wayne LaPierre and NRA champion the 2nd Amendment and constantly PREACH GUN SAFETY, protect children with the Eddie Eagle program and advocate for personal safety and individual responsibility and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM. I’ve been an NRA LIFE, Benefactor, Patron, Endowment member for years as well as a LIFE member of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. The NRA organization has members on board of directors that are: Border Patrol officers, detectives, sheriffs, police officers, FBI, actor Tom Selleck, Karl “the Mailman” Malone formerly of the NBA, Civil Rights activist Roy Ennis, Rock ‘N Roll star Ted “Motor City Madman” Nugent, lawyers who’ve served in presidential cabinets, several former members of Congress. They are the PRE-EMINENT 2nd Amendment ADVOCATE in America, spending MILLIONS OF DOLLARS fighting for the 2nd Amendment, were directly responsible for the “Castle” Doctrine legislation, Conceal Carry Laws, Stand Your Ground Law–that protects victims from having to retreat from life threatening attacks at THEIR OWN RISK, defending gun ranges and gun manufacturers.

  • jopa

    A lot of you guys are in for a tough summer walking around with your chain mail Kevlar lined pistol packing hoodie just to make a statement in 100 degree weather.The message is probably going to say you are a wacko with a pistola nothing more.

    • gunny55

      Someone doesn’t understand sarcasm I think. And know we know what kind of wacko you are.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      How is that your concern?

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Just another baseless and irrelevant comment from a know liar and slanderer.

    • JC

      Not at all…we can simply opt for the line of conceal carry summer wear…
      This isn’t new jopa…there’s literally a gallery of conceal carry clothing and has been for many years now.

      So much for you nasty little statement from your nasty little liberal mind. :)

  • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

    For anybody interested in the NRA Store and what they have to offer…
    http://www.nrastore.com/nrastore/home.aspx

    • gunny55

      Thanx for the link.

  • CB

    Well……I have a problem with anyone wearing a Hoodie ! The Hoodie has become the Symbol of Socially Acceptable Criminal Behavior and the Acceptance of Gang America Values. As an IRA Member, and former Police Detective, I view anyone wearing a Hoodie as a potential criminal and a person of interest. I can’t imagine any NRA member even putting one on. I’ve taken everyone of them we had here and put them in the Trash. I asked my children not to ever wear one. It’s their choice though. Just Gang Clothing . Don’t buy stock in Hoodie’s. The paying customers won’t buy them but I suppose Obama with give them out using Tax Payer Money.

  • jopa

    Actually the hoodie is a very smart piece of clothing to wear on a cool windy day.I bought one while out camping last fall and it has become one of my favorite articles of clothing when out hunting or just out riding the quads.Keeps your head warm and the wind out of your neck, with the only drawback is side vision..Not much of a fashion statement just common sense to wear one.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    The capacity on the part of liberals to devise outlandish policies intended to combat crime is rivaled in stupidity only by their propensity to avoid true solutions. Gun control has always been the pet panacea of those who possess neither the desire nor the backbone to confront the true and obvious cause of gun violence: criminals and a lenient justice system. Rather than confront this bane head on, gun controllers have striven to crack down on their favorite whipping boys, the guns themselves.

    Every time another maniac opens fire, as America recently revisited on the one-year anniversary of the near assassination of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, the calls go
    out for stricter gun control. Gun controllers, however, never quite get around to explaining how the previous 20,000 gun control laws they enthusiastically enacted failed to stop the most recent tragedies. The memorable shootings in the Los Angeles Jewish center and the Texas shooting in a Christian church were not—and could not—have been prevented by existing gun control laws. Nevertheless, the reaction was typical and predictable.

    In the short time in between those shootings, Bill Clinton latched onto and actually expanded what is probably the nuttiest (although not the most harmful) policy that is aimed at guns rather than criminals. In what is generally referred to as “gun-buyback” programs, Clinton took a page from local communities around the country and announced a $15 million federal plan which would assist local authorities in purchasing firearms in and around public housing projects. Today, the programs continue to enjoy a bizarre reverence.

    Gun-buyback programs work like this: police in a local neighborhood or precinct, often with the assistance of misguided community organizations, announce that they want people to turn in their illegal (or legal) guns. A period of amnesty is offered, whereby anyone who owns a weapon illegally will not be punished or prosecuted if they hand in the gun within the allotted time frame. No questions asked. Sometimes, the buyback program operates under the condition of anonymity of the illegal gun owner. (There is no amnesty for crimes committed with guns.)

    In exchange for turning in their guns, people will receive a determined amount of cash. Sometimes, they are offered basketball tickets or some other desirable item. Amidst great hoopla, the program is announced under the guise of an “anti-gun” program. Since people will be turning in their guns, and guns cause crime, ipso facto, crime will be reduced.

    The only effect that these ridiculous programs have on criminals is that certain robberies may be delayed while the muggers try to stop laughing. The entire program is predicated on the nonsensical notion that criminals are the ones that turn in their guns. That an IQ above 10 could actually take such logic seriously is one of the great mysteries of life. But, alas, some people actually purport to believe it.

    The federal program was aimed at reducing gun violence in some of the most notoriously dangerous locations in America. It intended to give local police departments up to $500,000 each to purchase guns for a “suggested price” of $50. “Every gun turned in through a buyback program means potentially one less tragedy,” Clinton profoundly exclaimed.

    Clinton, who certainly inspires confidence when he asserts that the guns will be destroyed upon receipt by the police, calculated that the program would bring in roughly 300,000 guns. The federal money was intended to go to individual public housing authorities which would coordinate plans with local police. The Clinton administration came up with the novel idea that gift certificates for goods or services be handed out instead of cash. Very appealing to the neighborhood mugger.

    Naturally, when reality actually managed to break through the clouds of deception, the facts revealed that there was no evidence whatsoever that crime had been reduced in locales where gun buyback programs had been enacted. This is in line with the fact that crime does not go down in areas which establish more gun control laws. In fact, the only places where crime decreases are where right-to-carry laws are passed—laws which make it easier for law-abiding citizens to carry concealed weapons for self-protection.

    http://www.alternativeright.com/main/blogs/district-of-corruption/the-war-on-guns/

  • PendragonRise

    When they make one bullet-proof, then I’ll buy it.

  • Misda

    What amazes me is that we are talking about disarming the individuals that legally obtain guns. The only ones that will be armed are the criminals.

    • suciobeats

      Exactly.

      Something is wrong with that picture, isn’t there?

  • Doc Sarvis

    So many scaredy-cats on this site.

    • Vicki

      Yes I noticed, as have you, that there are a lot of liberals on this site too.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Yes, the liberals seem to be the ones who can walk out their door without packin heat.

        • gunny55

          Yea,That would be the victims of rape, murder,assault,robbery, car jackings,etc. Huh DOC?

      • Vicki

        Doc Sarvis says:

        Yes, the liberals seem to be the ones who can walk out their door without packin heat.

        Muggers prefer a target rich environment. Notice how many of the blue counties have rich target liberals who don’t pack.

        Btw if Mr Martin had been allowed to carry a gun (He was not cause he was under 18) he could have been able to defend himself when he was attacked. (This assumes the liberal whiners are correct and that Martin was attacked)

        Sad that the very incident that liberals would like to make a case for MORE limits on firearm possession actually proves the opposite.

        If Zimmerman was attacked then his gun proves the assertion that having a gun can save you.

        If Martin was attacked then his lack of a gun proves the assertion that having a gun could have protected you.

      • JC

        Doc Sarvis says:
        April 5, 2012 at 8:54 am
        Yes, the liberals seem to be the ones who can walk out their door without packin heat.
        _________________________________________________________________

        And if that is their choice, that’s fine.
        But you don’t get to make that choice for others. Not in a “free” country.

    • JC

      If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
      If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

      If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
      If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

      If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
      A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.

      If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
      If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

      If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
      Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.

      If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
      A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

      If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
      Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

      If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
      A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)

      If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it,
      or may choose a job that provides it.
      A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

      If a conservative slips and falls in a store, he gets up, laughs and is embarrassed.
      If a liberal slips and falls, he grabs his neck, moans like he’s in labor and then sues.

      • JC

        You’re walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges at you. You are carrying a Glock cal 40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family. What do you do?

        Democrat’s Answer: Well, that’s not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor! Or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have appropriate safety built into it? Why am I carrying a loaded gun anyway, and what kind of message does this send to society and to my children? Is it possible he’d be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me, or would he be content just to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? Should I call 9-1-1 ? Why is this street so deserted? We need to raise taxes, have a paint and weed day and make this a happier, healthier street that would discourage such behavior. This is all so confusing! I need to discuss with some friends over a latte and try to come to a consensus.

        Republican’s Answer: Bang!

        Redneck’s Answer: Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Click Click….
        Daughter:
        “Nice grouping, Daddy! Were those the Winchester Silver Tips or Hollow Points?”

        Son: “You got him, Pop! Can I shoot the next one?”

        Wife: “You are not taking that to the taxidermist.”

  • suciobeats

    If you don’t want to carry a gun, that’s your choice. When it comes down to it, diplomacy will surely lose.

    I will carry my gun. I will exercise that choice to protect myself and my family. When they’re packing and you’re not, I hope you’re as good as Neo in the Matrix… I will look into getting this hoodie. Nice, easy access.

    BTW I voted for Obama….

    • Vicki

      suciobeats says:

      If you don’t want to carry a gun, that’s your choice. When it comes down to it, diplomacy will surely lose.

      As Mr Martin found out. Though most people don’t consider hitting someone over the head with a sidewalk to be “diplomacy”.

  • Smithkowitz

    Is a waterproof rain jacket considered a hoodie, or does it have to be out of sweat material? If a hoodie has a camo pattern and says Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Cabela’s, Gander Mountain; is it the same as one that say Nike, Bulls, Yankees, Abercrombie? Is one safer to wear than the other, or does it depend more on the neighborhood you are in? Just curious what the hoodie etiquette is . . . .

  • http://yahoo sylvia

    I totally support NRA.

  • Smithkowitz

    The NRA is a reasonably good organization, unfortunately they too have their hands in pockets in DC and are not always looking out for the best interest of the people. There is some Reciprocity legislation out there currently that they support, that some other gun organizations do not. Most of the time, they are do the right thing for the right reason(s).

  • BlackwingA520

    Carry permits for a particular state are a f**king joke! We need to push hard for a NATIONAL carry permit so you can travel through ALL the states and not worry about getting our expensive guns confiscated or getting arrested. I live in PA. and travel into NY to hunt regularly and have to remember to leave my pistol at home (you know, where it does me a lot of good). I guess the only thieves I have to worry about are the NY politicians that raised my out of state small game license a couple of years ago from $55 to $85 (a 55% increase in one year) State’s going broke so we’ll screw the little guy.

    • Vicki

      BlackwingA520 writes

      We need to push hard for a NATIONAL carry permit so you can travel through ALL the states and not worry about getting our expensive guns confiscated or getting arrested.

      What we need to do is push HARD for politicians to obey the supreme law of the land.
      That law says that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed.
      Even the Supreme Court agrees. (Heller case and MacDonald case).

      Of course it says several other things that the politicians have also been ignoring for many years so it comes as no surprise that the current administration is getting bolder about ignoring the parts it doesn’t like.

      • shavager

        Senate has a National Reciprocity Bill–S 2213 sponsored by Senators John Thune and David Vitter that will make national reciprocity–or for LIBS that are “unedumacated”–it will allow concealed carry for permit carriers in ALL 50 states without interferring with states that have open carry or no permit necessary for concealed carry. Contact your Senators and urge them to support this bill, it is Co-SPONSORED BY 29 Senators. DemocRATS have a similar bill from Joe Manchin/Mark Begich–it’s a SMOKESCREEN to get vote support from gun owners in an election year and it INTERFERES with state concealed carry bills or open carry in 5 states. SUPPORT S-2213, the Thune/Vitter BILL.

      • Vicki

        shavager, those are PERMISSION slips from government. We have the RIGHT to carry given to us by God and supposedly protected from ANY infringement by the contract we call the Constitution (see Amendment 2)

        We need government to HONOR that contract and stop harassing us for exercising our GOD given right(s). We do NOT need nannys permission slips.

      • JC

        Vicki, I love the way you think.

  • Smithkowitz

    Unfortunately gov’t does not recognize G-D given rights and neither do all people. The constitution does recognize rights however, but the gov’t also allows each state the right to govern within their own boundaries. This is one of the battles that some states (Illinois) have been using as a loophole to escape letting people own guns period; not to mention not allowing conceal or open carry. There are open carry laws in many states that are not blatantly known and you could get arrested if you are not careful. I personally feel all people that fit the responsible, mostly sane character mold that currently exists, do deserve the right. I believe the right to carry state to state should also be allowed as long as you have a license, or permit from your home state. You need a driver license (supposed to have) to drive, there is no logical reason you shouldn’t need a license to carry and transport another device that can inflict death. I think you should be able to carry a loaded shotgun or rifle if you have a license or permit. I understand the fear shared by many with regard to a Federal gun permit/license or licenses in any state. I personally think it’s a good idea for the education requirements that most states with permits require. I also think firearms and weapons education should be part of the national education requirements. Too many people just don’t seem to understand the lethality concept or the necessity of safety requirements with firearms; especially around children and those who are not on the same wavelength as the general population (who appear to be normal). I believe the number of preventable incidents that have taken place this year alone, provide some proof to back up what I’ve said. Yes, I realize that all the laws in the world will not prevent the possibility of stupidity taking place, but at least we’ve done what we can within reason and within fairness if we do these things. Nothing will stop the criminal element, except for those of us packing. The police are not here to prevent crime, they are here to arrest criminals, to intervene in situations out of hand; oh yeah, and to write tickets that bring in revenue. That’s another story . . . .

    • shavager

      Vicki, at this point and time in America, especially if you carry a weapon–YOU ARE BETTER OFF HAVING THE PERMIT RATHER THAN NEEDING A LAWYER TO DEFEND YOU IN COURT. That permit costs about $110 or so by the time you pay for your self defense course, fingerprints and background check and the permit itself–that’s a lot cheaper than a $1000 an hour lawyer if you’re stopped and DON’T HAVE A PERMIT, forget about arguing the Constitution with the officer–in CC states YOU must have a permit to carry the weapon concealed on you, there are several states like Vermont that do not require any permit to carry. The Supreme Court has ruled on two different cases that we the people have the right to the 2nd Amendment and we can carry our weapons legally provided you follow state laws, Thune/Vitter bill will only FORCE states to recognize legal carry permits. The Manchin/Begich bill will FORCE citizens in states that DON’T require permits to GET PERMITS–S.2213 is the bill we need passed–as long as states try to limit your ability to carry your weapon by permit.

      • Vicki

        The Manchin/Begich bill will FORCE citizens in states that DON’T require permits to GET PERMITS”

        Looks like backdoor gun registration to me.

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