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North Korea—Brace For Another Phony War

June 2, 2010 by  

North Korea—Brace For Another Phony War

“What difference does it make if it’s true? If it’s a story and it breaks, they’re gonna run with it.”Wag the Dog

Upset by the Energizer Oil Spill, the healthcare bill or our economic ills? Don’t worry; you might not have to fret much longer. Not because anybody is going to fix these problems. Rather because President Barack Obama might be seeding a much bigger problem.

Last week Obama announced United States troops stationed in the Korean Peninsula were going to a war footing. The move came as South Korea announced it was cutting off all trade with the North in retaliation for what it claims is the deliberate sinking of its warship the Cheonan in March. The government in Seoul vowed “immediate” retaliation if North Korea attempted further provocations.

According to White House spokesman Robert Gibbs, “U.S. support for South Korea’s defense is unequivocal, and the President has directed his military commanders to coordinate closely with their [South Korean] counterparts to ensure readiness and to deter future aggression.”

It has even been “leaked” that because of the urgency of the “crisis”, the U.S. has deployed its most advanced air-superiority fighter, the Raptor F-22, to the Korean Peninsula.

Excuse this writer for thinking it all sounds a bit too much like the movie Wag the Dog. In that film a spin doctor sees his President’s polls falling so he employs a Hollywood director to construct a fake war with Albania. It is all an attempt to distract the media and the people.

Of course what is happening in Korea may have nothing to do with growing dissatisfaction over Obama’s handling of the oil spill, the recent 10 percent decline in the Dow Jones Industrial Average or the European debt crisis. North Korea may in fact be a clear and present danger to our national security. But we should consider that the “crisis” with North Korea is a diversion from growing success for the Tea Party and growing criticism of the President. In fact there is precedent.

Gulf Of Tonkin
Pyongyang has denied it torpedoed the Cheonan near the Korean maritime border killing 46 sailors. And it has accused South Korea of trespassing in its waters, saying that the South has sent “dozens of warships” into its waters these past few weeks in "a deliberate provocation aimed to spark off another military conflict."

I am not stupid enough to believe what comes from this reckless government and its midget dictator Kim Jong-il. Then again I am not stupid enough to believe everything the Federal government tells me either. If you are my age or older you might remember President Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkin.

That military crisis was ushered to an unsuspecting public on Aug. 5, 1964, with a headline in The Washington Post that read: “American Planes Hit North Vietnam After Second Attack on Our Destroyers; Move Taken to Halt New Aggression.” That same day The New York Times reported: “President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats and ‘certain supporting facilities in North Vietnam’ after renewed attacks against American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin.”

According to Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, There never was a “second attack” by North Vietnam. No “renewed attacks against American destroyers.” Instead these official lies told from the President on down took hold and opened the floodgates for the bloody and useless Vietnam war; a conflict that originally had a huge backing by the American public and swept LBJ into office with the greatest percentage of the total popular vote (61 percent) ever attained by a Presidential candidate.

The same LBJ who just three months before the election had ordered U.S. bombers to "retaliate" for a North Vietnamese torpedo attack; and attack that never happened. In fact a year later LBJ joked: “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.” All very funny except for the terrible cost in blood and money that the Vietnam conflict inflicted. You notice I don’t use the word “war” because the U.S.  didn’t declare war, not then and not in the nearly half century since.

Instead Congress passed the Southeast Asia Resolution (the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution) backing the President in taking “all necessary measures to repel any armed attack against the forces of the United States and to prevent further aggression.” On Aug. 10—less than a week after the fabricated fight—Johnson signed the resolution. There were only two dissenting votes in the Senate and not one in the House.

The Uncensored War, a book by Daniel Hallin, indicts the press over Vietnam.* Hallin points out that the media had “a great deal of information available which contradicted the official account of Tonkin Gulf events; it simply wasn’t used.” Just the day before the first incident Hanoi had protested the attacks on its territory by Laotian aircraft and South Vietnamese gunboats.

What’s more, wrote Hallin, “It was generally known that ‘covert’ operations against North Vietnam, carried out by South Vietnamese forces with U.S. support and direction, had been going on for some time.”

Ancient history you say? Not if you count Saddam Hussein and those weapons of mass destruction that never did turn up. That fairy tale gave us $1 trillion conflict with Iraq and a resounding re-election of another incumbent President.

The bottom line is I won’t be surprised if this fearless President stirs the nation into action and gets many of us ready at the ramparts in the face of a foreign horde. It is what General Douglas MacArthur warned us of.

“Talk of imminent threat to our national security through the application of external force is pure nonsense,” said the General in 1951 adding: “Our threat is from the insidious forces working from within which have already so drastically altered the character of our free institutions—those institutions we proudly called the American way of life.”

MacArthur knew what it took to wage and win a real war. He also learned the hard way the politics and economics involved in a modern “conflict”… the kind of conflicts the U.S. invariably falls into when the nation’s economic or political woes grow out of control.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

*Footnote: The Uncensored War: The Media and Vietnam, Daniel C. Hallin, New York, Oxford University Press, 1986.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jeryl D

    Is there no limit to what Obama will do to remain in power. This is, of course, nothing new since questionable leaders throughout history have used the blood of their people to remain in power.

    • Norm

      Jeryl D
      By questionable leaders of course you are referring to Bush/Cheney. The trillion dollar plus fiasco they started is still draining the US treasury, not to mention the lives of dedicated young men and women.

      It’s amazing how the right wing hawks only approve of Republican wars and cry foul like fools over Democratic wars.

      • 63rdpatriot

        I don’t recall him mentioning either party you left wing idiot.

        • Norm

          63rdpatriot

          Read Jeryl D’s post you moron.
          “there no limit to what Obama will do to remain in power.”

          Incidently, prople who call themselves patriots usually “aint”.

          • Dogma-Free

            True enough about the ‘patriot’ comment…just as the so-called ‘PATRIOT’ Act is also a misnomer.

            Funny, I too was thinking of the Bush administration as I was reading this, especially the part where he mentions Johnson joking about it a year later.

            If Obama was a white Republican, I’m pretty sure this site would be all for starting another conflict to ‘protect American interests’, or whatever catch-phrase they would use to justify such things.

            Then again, maybe America should just bring all its troops home, and let the rest of the world sort out their own problems, instead of trying to control everything.

          • Rob Alexander

            Amen to bringing the troops home and letting the rest of the world sort itself out… What a concept, use our military to defend America, not run the world.

          • del

            Read it again you idiot! This time use your pointy finger on each word. Maybe then you won’t have such a misunderstanding of what he wrote. He was including everyone in politics ( yes even your muslim hero) and excluding no one.

        • Right Wing

          Don’t feel bad 63rd…the left wing idiot acknowledged you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Right Wing,
            I think that would be brainless idiot. There’s a conspiracy theory that norm traded his brain for a chance to kiss Odummers hiney!!!

        • eddie47d

          Yes he did when he mentioned Saddam and weapons of mass destruction. This site get’s so upset when George Bush’s name is mentioned and I think that is why Meyers left it out . He didn’t want to hurt your feelings.

        • independant thinker

          Bush, white republican, he got mentioned in the same light as Johnson, WHITE democrat, and Obama.

      • GenEarly

        It’s amazing how left wing chickens always blame right wing hawks for war and how right wing hawks blame left wing chickens for starting wars.Notice how a pattern emerges? BOTH WINGS are killing this country and keeping the citizens divided.Let us as citizens at least agree to support The Constitution to LIMIT both WINGS when they are in power.Government must be LIMITED for INDIVIDUALS to be FREE.

        • Art Bowie

          Well said…

        • TDG

          GenEarly, you nailed it when you said the following:

          Let us as citizens at least agree to support The Constitution to LIMIT both WINGS when they are in power.Government must be LIMITED for INDIVIDUALS to be FREE.

          Bravo, Sir!

          TDG

        • Hugh Jordin

          Extremists on both ends of the spectrum keep us dying for their egos. I left a lot of dead friends in Viet Nam and what did it prove?

          Now tourists go there, shirts and hats are made there, things are groovey, but my friends are still dead.

          The wars of today are no different. Bush was a dolt and Obama is a disappointment.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            Amen Hugh. Things will only get better when all the lefties realize that Obama and his administration are all about one world government and the righties realize their icons are no better. Well meaning people on both sides of the arguments are being duped and there are plenty of em on this board.

          • viktor leben

            Hugh,

            Vietnam was mismanaged by the politicians to a degree ….

            Hugh, don’t ever feel that way. America was LOSING the Cold War. You and your friends bought us time. The WW2 generation thought it was OK to fight Charlie everywhere and for whatever reason.

        • Rob Alexander

          Hear hear! Well said.

        • eddie47d

          Thank You

        • kerston

          Excellent comment JeffH. Now if everyone would just figure it out. :)

        • kerston

          I don’t know why Jeff is who I thought said it. Oh well You get it :)

        • Allan

          The way you limit a wing is by clipping it with term limits.

      • http://naver samurai

        Just remember Norm, if you read our history (A lib read? Don’t think so…) you’ll see that more people died while fighting wars with a democrat in office, than they did with a GOP president. Another thing I’m tired of you talking like our troops are nothing but stats. They, unlike you and Elton, are heroes. They died serving this country and fighting for freedom. You also talk about debt, well, let’s not go there with this “soend what you don’t have” administration. I also wish you would quit talking about the war for oil bit. Don’t you think that you should get some new material and a pair of BALLS and join up? It’ll be a growing up experience for the both of you, you morons!

        • Dr. Mabuse

          LMAO at you !!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Laugh all you want, but what I’ve said was historical facts. Go look them up.

      • refuse2lose

        It’s amazing how you are so blinded by kool aid that you continue to make things a right vs left argument.You evidently think that liberals are above the crime and corruptness that infests our government.
        Take off the beer goggles and remove the IV,welcome to reality

      • Ann M Szafko

        I don’t see the correlation that Bush attacked Iraq because he needed to bolster his polls. To compare the events that led to the war in Iraq to the reasons for LBJ or Obama to start or escalate a far away confrontation is ludicrous.

        WE WERE attacked on Sep 11 2001 by a terrorist organization that is spread across the Middles East and we had a better chance at fighting it from the region, rather than hunker down and hope it would not be repeated.

        We HAD to unseat Saddam Hussein, who if memory would just serve some right, was a supporter, aider and abetter of terrorists and through his expansionist desire to be the sole power to control the flow of oil in the region, he had to GO! Why him and not another Middle Eastern country, is because at the time he was the weakest domino (condemned by the world and the UN) to knock out and settle in for the long war of fighting terrorism.
        The Chinese wall does not work in modern times, and as a major economic and military power in the world, we will always have enemies (rivals) who want to knock us off our perch.

        What is happening in the Korean peninsula is less important to us as of now (even though an insane leader like Kim Il Jong with nuclear power IS a threat to the world), but Obama and the Democrat Party’s numbers ARE in trouble and the tendency to make a mountain out of a mole hill is justifiably attributable to the Obama administration to use it as a distraction from other major issues his administration faces.

        When we question our leaders about “foreign entanglements”, why don’t we just ask ourselves, if not us, who? China? Would all of you think the world would be a better and more peaceful place with a Chinese hegemony over world affairs?

        • Dr. Mabuse

          9/11 = False Flag
          Do you really think a bunch of camel jockeys and towel heads could’ve
          pulled off that attack without any inside help? The terrorists that need to be brought to justice are now protected by the Secret Service.

          Saddam Hussein got his WMD’s from OUR military-industrial complex.
          (much to the chagrin of thr Kurds, I might add).

          Rocky Bama had better entangle us in another war in double quick time, who cares if we kill off a bunch of brown or yellow bastards, if it’ll service the bottom line.
          (I know all you right wingers are in total agreement with my last statement

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Dr. Mabuse,
            Proof please! Show me proof that Saddam got his WMDs from the U.S.! Otherwise zip it!!

          • Meteorlady

            No I am not in agreement with another war you idiot. As for WMD’s I guess the gas Saddam used on the Kurds wouldn’t fall into that category? Lots of them were dead and lying in the streets so how many does it take to die before it’s a WMD?

          • Vicki

            Wait. I thought the democrats are always telling us that there were no WMD’s. Is it now the revision of history that there were and they were gotten from the US?

          • http://naver samurai

            Doc. I don’t know what planet you came from, but hurry up and go back there! Saddam got his weapons of mass destruction from Europe and the Russians. Did the 9/11 terrorists have inside help blowwing up the WTC in NYC? Don’t know, but you saying that they are being protrcted by us you are a fool! Get off the koolaid. You’re probably not even a real doc, just some Obama bin Laden zombie!

          • http://none Jeff

            Here is an article that describes what the U.S. sold to Saddam and Iraq. One of the reasons the U.S. was sure he had WMD’s is because the U.S. sold them to him. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0908-08.htm

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jeff,
            Like I’m gonna believe anything from a progressive website!!! Click on “about us”!!

          • Dr. Mabuse

            Joe H.
            The proof is: when Rumsfeld made a tacit agreement with Saddam Hussein to provide him with weapons for the Iraq – Iran war.

            1. October, 1983. The Reagan Administration begins secretly allowing Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Egypt to transfer United States weapons, including Howitzers, Huey helicopters, and bombs to Iraq. These shipments violated the Arms Export Control Act. [16]

            2.December 20, 1983. Donald Rumsfeld , then a civilian and later Defense Secretary, meets with Saddam Hussein to assure him of US friendship and materials support.

            3.March, 1986. The United States with Great Britain block all Security Council resolutions condemning Iraq’s use of chemical weapons, and on March 21 the US becomes the only country refusing to sign a Security Council statement condemning Iraq’s use of these weapons.

            4. May, 1986. The US Department of Commerce licenses 70 biological exports to Iraq between May of 1985 and 1989, including at least 21 batches of lethal strains of anthrax.

            5. May, 1986. US Department of Commerce approves shipment of weapons grade botulin poison to Iraq.

            I remain unzipped, so deal with it.

            MeteorLady:

            If you could read and comprehend, I said that the Kurds were decimated by WMD’s.

            Vicki:

            Revisionist history is a disease thats found on both sides of the aisle.

            Samurai: You are incorrect when you state that Saddam got is WMD’s from Europe, I addressed that issue in my reply to Joe H.
            No, I’m not saying that the Secret Service is protecting Middle Eastern terrorists, (use that community college education you have for a minute, ok?) Who does the Secret Service protect?
            Yes, I’m a real Dr. not a kool aid guzzling zombie as you described me, and I’m still LMAO at you.

          • http://naver samurai

            You forgot one thing there “doc”, me and my masters in history will tell you that when the war started in 1980, yes 3 years earlier than what you said in your post, the Iranians were winning at first. Suddenly, they were in retreat, why? Iran was launching SSM’s into Bagdhad and were ready to claim a victory and start the creation of a new Persian Empire(that’s what the Iyatolla wanted.), but what happened doc? What? Give up? Saddam dropped chemical weapons on them, created holes in their lines, and the Iraqi Army (Called the Babylonians) began pouring through the holes in their lines. This cause the Iranians to retreat back to their side of the border. He was also known to use these weapons before 1983 on the Kurds. You’re just a bit too late in the mind, like any other lib. Obama bin Laden, baaaaa!

          • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

            Sadaam Huseien got the mustard from somewhere in Europe and not the USA. It is considered a WMD. Also almost no one would agree with your viewpoint so you have to take responsibility for it yourself.

          • Dr. Mabuse

            Ok Sam, I never said in my post that the Iran – Iraw conflict started in 1983. My reference was to Reagan’s back door methods of international diplomacy. Don’t get it twisted, huh?
            The war began when Iraq invaded Iran, launching a simultaneous invasion by air and land into Iranian territory on 22 September 1980 following a long history of border disputes, and fears of Shia insurgency among Iraq’s long-suppressed Shia majority influenced by the Iranian Revolution. Iraq was also aiming to replace Iran as the dominant Persian Gulf state. Although Iraq hoped to take advantage of revolutionary chaos in Iran and attacked without formal warning, they made only limited progress into Iran and within several months were repelled by the Iranians who regained virtually all lost territory by June, 1982.

            The conflict is most often compared to World War I, in that the tactics used closely mirrored those of World War I, including large scale trench warfare, manned machine-gun posts, bayonet charges, use of barbed wire across trenches, human wave attacks across no-mans land, and extensive use of chemical weapons such as mustard gas against Iranian troops and civilians as well as Iraqi Kurds. At the time, the UN Security Council issued statements that “chemical weapons had been used in the war.” (Mustard gas) However, in these UN statements Iraq was not mentioned by name, so it has been said that “the international community remained silent as Iraq used weapons of mass destruction against Iranian as well as Iraqi Kurds”
            In addition to the Mustard gas Sadaam used on the Kurds he also used Anthrax and botulin(supplied to him by the US)as well as more traditional ordinance.

            The objectives of Iraq’s invasion of Iran were:

            1.Control of the Shatt al-Arab waterway by Iraqis
            2.Acquisition of the three islands of Abu Musa and the Greater and Lesser Tunbs, on behalf of the UAE.
            3.Annexation of Khuzestan to Iraq
            4.Prevent the spread of the Islamic Revolution in the region

            For one claiming to possess a “Masters” in history your scholarship is shoddy and your world view is particularly myopic. Oh, and by the way, In some circles I may have been accused of being a devil worshipping blood drinking necrophiliac, but never a “lib”.

        • eddie47d

          George Bush always said Saddam was the greatest threat over there and not the weakest link. Syria was probably the weakest.Mr Bush did want to bolster his polls and show up his dad and get at the oil.I’d say he didn’t accomplish much. Both Vietnam and Iraq were useless wars and started under false pretenses> The Liberals didn’t want us in either war and no one listened. They might as well have been barking at the moon with our war crazed leaders.

          • eddie47d

            Joe H. Ronald Reagan armed Saddam to the teeth with all kinds of weapons that could be used for mass destruction. I do believe France and a few other nations had a hand in it also especially with the chemicals.

          • Meteorlady

            Excuse me but………. was there a vote taken in congress and the house? How many liberals voted for the war without researching the intelligence?

          • trprj

            Using liberal and intellegence in the same sentence, is just wrong!

          • http://naver samurai

            Don’t forget that it was e democrat who started sending troops to Vietnam and the next one was responsible for thousands more wounded and dead over there. It was a GOP president that pulled us out of that mess. Read your history before you post. Vietnam was fought to stop the spread of communism and Iraq to take out a stalinist dictator who had WMD’s. Both wars had their reasoning, but you living in this country has no reasons.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduh!47,
            Show me some proof and facts! and not from some progressive web site like jeff did!!

      • Meteorlady

        Norm – What part of the LBJ fiasco did you not get?

    • refuse2lose

      Does anyone find it the least bit confusing that the Obama administration declares it’s full support for S.Korea but treats our only ally in the Middle East(Israel)like they are second hand trash?It must have something to do with Barry’s ties to black liberation and the Muslim BrotherHood.

      • Meteorlady

        I was thinking the same thing, funny huh?

      • eddie47d

        I support Israel but they commited a dastardly deed this week in the way they attacked those ships. Obama has to use caution for even the good guys do terrible things. Muslims are apart of this world and he has to deal with them just like all presidents.

        • Vicki

          Watch the tv show V episode “Hearts and Minds” for an example of what might be going on with the flotilla that the Israelis attacked.

          Series 1 episode 10 -V-
          http://www.hulu.com/watch/146831/v-hearts-and-minds#s-p1-so-i0

        • http://naver samurai

          Remember dude, Israel is on the defensive 24 hours a day from muslim fools that want to kill them just for being Jews. Israel didn’t fire the first shots, the terrorists did. Wake up and stop doing that liberal crack before it fries what little brains you have.

          • http://none Jeff

            Israel attacked those ships and boarded them in international waters. They have effectively set up an apartheid system in the middle east and many more palestinians are killed than vice versa. The palestines have the right to food water and the ability to travel without being harassed and they should not be kept separated from their work, families, land, crops and churches by a wall.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jeff,
            If all they were worried about was humanitarian aid, then they could very easily make port in the port that Isriael has set up for just that purpose!! They can bring any aid in they wish and after Isriael inspects the cargo for weapons they will even distribute it for them! these azzholes were just trying to set them up to look bad to the world community and recruit bleeding hearts to their cause! What about the missiles that the palistinians have lobbed into markets at the busiest time of the day? I don’t hear you bleeding any tears for those victims. I don’t hear any tears for the school children that were killed by the palistinians two years ago by lobbing rockets into a school on purpose! yes, isriael did it too, but it was proven that the palistinians were using the school as a launching platform for missiles. Even then the Israelis warned them to cease or the school would become a target due to necessity!

          • http://naver samurai

            Jeff, the Israeli’s have a right to live in peace without some —- walking into the market, restuarant, board a bus, etc., blowing themselves up for their false god allah. If you don’t think they take their lives into their own hands sometimes by just walking to work, then you are stupid and need to get off this post.

        • Mike In MI

          OK, eddie47, He -obama- has to deal with them…
          If Obama isn’t one of the MusBroHood why doesn’t he deal with them as a President of the United States of America SHOULD? Why do they get MORE than the benefit of the doubt in every single matter, in every single situation and every single (nor confluent) incident?

          Have you got any idea of what the Q’uran has to say about a Muslim who is complicit it the death or conviction of a fellow moslem – unless…the infraction is against other moslems? Read, and learn, what the idiot profit (to the devil) had to say abou jihad and destroying the infidels (any non-moslem). You judge everything by what you think you know about “reality”.
          Well, you great student of what “is” and logical examiner of what “ISN’T” lay your fools logic on muslim “logic” and see where you end up. I Hope you have a great neck protecter.

          ‘Cause if you don’t you’re going to end up screaming like Daniel Pearl, the jewish journalist, who would not not be allowed to submit to muslim rule – because he was a Jew who deserved to be beheaded. But, if you’re not a Jew you will be given a chance to decide:
          1; BECOME A MUSLIM – AND PAY TRIBUTE AND OBEISANCE, or;
          2; “WE shave your head off – at shoulder level – as a sacrifice to
          Allah.”

          You think what you are used to living amidst is the only thing there is in this stupid world. You better grow up fast – or you’re going to lose your mind…at the base of your neck.

        • Allan

          If people were firing several missiles a day at your city, I bet you’d be interested in a blockade too. This so-called “peace” flotilla was anything but. They intentionally provoked an international incident. American liberals seem to be involved.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Allan… I agree. We need to stand with Israel. Our government is capable of making anything believable.

    • Richard Pawley

      Jeryl, it is not Obama, he is just one man and simply doesn’t have the time or even the understanding to do all that he is accused of. No one man does. Americans always seem to blame the president, Democratic Wilson for getting us into WWI when he ran on a ticket of keeping us out of the war (and signing legislation that resulted in the income tax)and Democratic FDR for passing legislation that made the depression into the Great Depression, Democratic Truman for getting us into the Korean Conflict which never ended and has been going on for nearly 60 years and Democratic Kennedy for getting us into the Vietnam Conflict that we never intended to “win” and didn’t. Today and for over half a century we don’t fight wars to win them (which means of course we never can) but for other reasons to long to go into here. The point is that none of these “presidents” from Wilson to Obama could do any of what they did or are doing without the complicity of Congress. Replace Obama with a regular Republican and you change virtually nothing! There is very little difference between Democrats and Republicans anymore. There used to be but both use different tactics to push us towards a one world dictatorship, some knowingly, some in ignorance. If the United States is to survive we need to return to the ideals of our founders, and realize that it is morality that makes the difference. Our founding fathers said that our Constitution and the Bill or Rights would not work for any but a moral people. If we want the anarchy of Marxism to live lives without morality than the United States as we have known it cannot survive. Whether one is a true Democrat (not the socialist wing that has dominated the Democrats of late) or a Republican – both by the way cater to what Big Banks and Big Business want – look at the big Financial or Banking Bill they are trying to pass that does absolutely nothing to reign in the causes of our just-beginning-financial crisis. The owners of the Federal Reserve System and others spent upwards of 300,000,000 million in lobbying in 1999 to get Congress and Bill Clinton to overturn those laws that kept the banks from causing another Greater Depression. Most of those laws were passed in the 1930′s and once rescinded it took only eight years to bring about what will prove to be the beginning of the greatest financial collapse of history if we continue on the same insane path of spend till you drop. You and I can’t do it, what makes Congress think they can? The difference is they aren’t spending their own money, just all they can borrow and all they can tax. This is why gold continues to climb no matter how much effort is made to discredit it. God gave us gold and the Democrats and Republicans gave us Federal Reserve Notes. The point is that we need moral people in Congress, regardless of party, those who don’t want to see the United States pass into the dust bin of history. Few democracies have ever lasted as long as ours. We are at a cross-roads. Some believe we have passed it and that there is nothing that can be done from here on out that will change things. I disagree. The insane spending of the Democratically controlled Congress of the last four years (and the Republican Congress before that) has guaranteed at least two hundred percent more inflation and when the dam breaks food and fuel will triple in price. (If you think the riots in Greece were bad last month wait until you see the ones here in a few years). Congress, living in a world of their own, far from main street and reality, continues to spend all they can borrow and all they can tax. With very few exceptions they must be sent home in November. If we cannot replace the 111th Congress with new people who care about freedom, the US Constitution, Equality and Justice (“equal justice” not the “social justice”) the borders, defense of our country, not every other country in the world, and letting us be about our own lives and stop interfering with social engineering experiments – well, I have a hunch that this November’s election will determine if we survive as a country or eventually break up into several countries as some believe may happen when Congress and their insane spending destroys the economy. We need all new people who are not yet puppets of those pulling the purse strings. We need moral people who cannot be blackmailed and have no secrets to hide. It is not hopeless but if we think sending President Obama home in two and a half years without changing Congress this November is going to change anything but the speed at which we disintegrate then we are sadly mistaken.
      “Wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes in many places, famines (coming) and pestilence and disease, plagues, AND this is not yet the end” said the One whose banner was held high when this great land was claimed for him by the first European to set foot in Virginia in 1607. I hope Americans continue to wake up from their deep slumber but it’s also why I called my last book, “THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES And the Great Famine that Followed”. It is not politically correct but it could save your life if taken seriously.

      • Tammy

        God bless you, you are totally correct and the whole of the United States of America needs to read your message, and let it sink in to their souls, for your message has nailed our problems right on the head.

      • Allan

        Where are you going to find moral people with enough money to run? Getting new people elected (and practically speaking that means Republicans in this coming election) to slow down the socialists in Washington is a stopgap. To get candidates with a significantly higher degree of morality (no one being perfect), the finances of running for office have to be reformed. Also efforts against creeping atheism must be galvanized. Then there’s term limits, and changing the rules of Congress to increase accountability. The 2010 election is just one important step in a very tough challenge.

        • Vicki

          Facebook and other social networking sites. That is the solution to the “costs” of running for office.

          Facebook has over 500 MILLION subscribers. That being more than the population of the US let alone the voting population is a gold mine for business and politics.

          Keep in mind that I don’t have a figure for the US subscribers it is none the less a wonderful opportunity.

          • Allan

            Well, it’s an interesting thought, a way to potentially counterbalance large special interest donors.

    • Mick for thought

      Stepping up the tempo of readiness is what is always done in cases like this. We have done it every place we have troops in the world since WWII. We did it when Russia flexed its muscles during the cold war. We did it when Reagan came to visit South Korea when I was there in the 80s. This has been done by everybody every time. This article is more spin than reality. I expected something more objective.

      • Mike In MI

        OK, Mick, et’s diagnose this situation:
        1. We’re broke;
        2. We’re in hock to China for 2/3 the world’s gross product for the
        next 300 years;
        3. North Korea and China are allies;
        4. South Korea and the United States are allied;
        5. Obama announced we are destroying our nuclear arsenal and delivery
        capacity as fast as possible;
        6. China and N. Korea are building up both their arsenals and
        delivery capacities as fast as possible;
        7. Most of what we use as a culture comes from and can be shut off
        from China;
        8. Obama bows to an Oriental Ruler as a dutiful servant should.

        • Mick for thought

          It looked like you were thinking until you got to line 8 and let your bias hang out.

          – so how we did get broke?

          – who rewarded American companies moving to China?

          – what would happen to China’s economy if they stopped selling to the USA?

          – flexing our muscles behind South Korea spends very little money. All the troops are already there getting paid. So they fly some high-tech weapons system we already own over there with pilots and support elements we already pay.

          Like I said we do this every time, forever. It is not a smoke and mirrors illusion. It is and always has been policy.

  • EltonJ

    Oh, gosh, that’s just crap. Why don’t we just make a formal treaty of peace with North Korea and just bring our troops home. I’m serious. Just let South Korea and North Korea handle their own petty squabble.

    • Norm

      EltonJ
      Amen. Let’s get all American troops out of all the foreign wars and potential wars worldwide.

      • Meteorlady

        Just one quick question – if we bring all our troops hone where’s the jobs for them?

        • Vicki

          There’s this border to the south you see….

        • Norm

          Meteorlady
          Thanks to drill, drill, drill, money ahead of safety, there are plenty of jobs cleaning BP’s act of terror.

          • Right Wing

            Norm you really are a mindless POS to call an oil rig explosion an act of terror. Just leave and don’t come back.

          • JC

            That’s uncalled for Norm and it makes no sense whatever.

          • http://naver samurai

            Norm, shut the !@#$%^ up and go back to your sheapherd Obaaaaaaama!

          • Allan

            Hey, what a great idea. Let’s stop doing any activity that can involve an accident.

          • Claire

            This post may stir up some comments, but I do not expect everyone to agree.

            1. Deport ALL illegals, and leave no stone unturned until they are all gone.
            2. Bring our troops home, take care of our veterans, with the illegals gone, perhaps there will be jobs, and additional funds since the illegals will be gone–taking care of our soldiers and veterans is a “must do” and definitely a priority.
            3. Keep our military strong, and NEVER cut back on the funding for weapons, planes, etc. All military bases in the US should remain as is, only kept on a “readiness” basis and fully equipped to handle any type of attack. And I include nuclear power. America should not go around looking for trouble, but if it happens, we must be ready and able.
            4. Literally “clean up” the Dept. of Homeland Security, Dept. of Interior, Minerals Management–ALL departments especially since their track records leave a lot to be desired. If a person involved in these departments has not performed well in the best interests of America, then they are fired and replaced with people that will DO the job the way it should be handled. Communication should be improved regarding these departments. Napolitano MUST go.
            5. America must have certain regulations for the oil companies, there should be no offshore drilling until such time the oil companies have the proper equipment, etc. in case of accidents, and accidents do and will happen. The research and technology must be greatly improved. Oil companies must be held accountable for safety measures, no more skimping just to turn a profit. Use our own resources for energy–why isn’t this being accomplished? This administration (Dems and Repubs) should be going gung ho on this issue. Why are they dragging their feet? Get on the ball.
            6. Keep our noses out of foreign countries that continually squabble amongst themselves, most of them return to their “old ways” the minute we leave, therefore, this issue is futile. Why tear up a country and then spend billions to re-build it? Get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Heck, Iraq was supposed to be doing better-but they are still bombing each other.
            7. Clean up the Welfare System–if people are shirking their job duties, fire them, this includes the head honchos. Get the lazy people off welfare. No more freebies. This is hard-nose and blunt, but consider having tubes tied and vasectomies. Heck, the government did this to the Native American Women back in the 50s and through the early 70s.
            8. The politicians that run for office must have a squeaky clean record. If they commit tax evasion, and any other type of law-breaking activity then they are dismissed immediately. BTW–what is going on with Rangel? Haven’t heard anything for some time. Also, any politician that spends the taxpayers money for their “fun” should be dismissed. Make them pay for their own hotels, limos, plane rides, etc. And we wonder why they all become so rich? They should have to deal with the real world just like we do.
            9. Congress must be held accountable for every law they pass, especially since they call most of the shots. Americans must have more say is what is being done, somehow. The politicians we elect usually do differently the minute they step into office than what we expect them to do once we elect them. For example, if the subject of “war” comes up, then Americans should have a deciding opinion too. Too many politicians have involved America in wars that were not feasible or in the best interests of America.
            10. No more lobbyists, no more being “in cahoots” with Wall Street, the banks, the insurance companies, big pharma, etc. We must run a tight ship, no room for the old “scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” bull. This will be no easy task. Especially since most politicians depend on these corporations and oil companies to donate to their campaigns.
            I have more comments to add, but do not want to write a book.

    • http://naver samurai

      If we did that, it wouldn’t stay that way for long. Soon Japan would jump in on the South’s side. Then China and Russia would join the North. The U.S. doesn’t want any further Russian or Chinese expansion outside their present day borders, so we would eventually have to join in the war. It may even spred to Europe, the Middle East, and other vital areas of the world. Also, we have treaties with some of these nations and the U.S. doesn’t cut and run you moron. Remember, this nation’s military aren’t a bunch of cowards like you and Norm from Cheers. “Americans, traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.” George S. Patton Jr.

      • http://www.roman-empire-america-now.com/Roman-Empire-blog.html Douglas C. Smyth

        China doesn’t want a war in Korea, and neither does Russia, and neither of them are true Communists, either.

        I second the earlier comment: we should get out of Korea and out of the 130+ other countries in which we have military bases.

        I agree that both parties (not necessarily right or left) have fattened on war, and used it politically. An uncle in law was the State Dept. Legal officer who falsified the Tonkin Gulf account to make it look as if the North V’s had attacked us in international waters: it was in their territorial waters. But note: Goldwater was even more hellbent to fight in Vietnam than LBJ, and wanted to use nukes!

        Both the real left and the real right don’t want the US to be the global cop, because both realize that all that money spent on wars could be spent here at home: on people.

      • JC

        I appreciate the spirit of the pure warrior, but if you want to help S Korea…head on over there. But right now our own continent needs our troops at home. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but there’s commies in the White House. And I don’t know about anyone else…but I’m tired of putting America’s kids in the line of fire for…”book entries” in some accountants ledger.

        • http://naver samurai

          I’ve already served over there for 3 years. If we were to bring our trrops home, where would they go? You libs have had so many of our bases closed that Obama bin Laden would probably give many of them their walking papers. You could put them on our southern border, but “Osama” doesn’t want to offend his hispanic special interest groups. If you don’t believe in service, honor, and duty to country, then you are not a man, nor have you earned the right to be called an American. I really hate bleeding hearts. Peacemakers are OK in my book, but just look no farther than the libs that took this blonde haired bimbo, fueler her anger about her son dying in Iraq, and put her face on national TV just to influence the 2004 elections. I suggest that you libs take a good look at youselves before pointing the finger at people. “Americans have always loved a winner and will not tolerate a loser. Because the very thought of losing is hateful to Americans.” George S. Patton Jr. Liberals don’t care about this country or its people. Vote to get them out in 2010! For God and country!

          • JC

            Oh I’m a Lib now? @!&* You!
            That said, you are one psycho that this American no longer supports on any level. Go back to Korea and stay there Please!

      • eddie47d

        You sure like to use the word moron alot. You also seem to love war alot,but that is false patriotism. Remember Ronald Reagan cut and run in Lebanon so that argument get’s real old.

        • http://naver samurai

          I don’t love war, but we have obligations that come first before some sheeple crying after Obama bin Laden. Unlike you, I’ve tasted war and it is not a good thing. I’ll agree to that, but if you give your word to do something, the bigger person always keeps their word no matter what. Its called honor. Something you don’t have.

          • JC

            “WE” have obligations? Based on what? And who the hell are you to decide that “WE” have obligations?

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry J.C., but you are missing my point. I just wish to say that a treaty is a bunch of promises written on paper. Sure, sometimes they don’t mean anything, but if you give your word you should keep your promises. My parents told me that, I told my 4 kids that, and I’ll tell my grandkids that also. “We should keep our promises to each other, because God has kept his promise to us.” If you don’t believe what I say, fine. I you wish to respond, please do so in good taste. Let’s not fight, especially since I don’t believe in retreating. Just look at my posts. I understand your points, but the right thing to do is for us to keep our promises. If we don’t, what do you think would happen? North Korea has missiles that can reach our west coast and how much longer will it take before he can reach anywhere in the U.S.? I don’t want a preemptive strike, but to only defend the south if it is necessary.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      EltonJ,
      I wlould agree with you if China and a couple of other countries would agree to that as well!

    • Mick for thought

      I guess we just break the promises made in treaties to foreign governments by both right and left wing presidents.

    • http://gmail.com k

      So all you care for is America? You are sick! People in North Korea and the other poor countries are suffering! And you think we should just leave them alone? Just let them suffer and die? We should do something to change the world, make a difference.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    But boy oh boy did Lyndon Johnson and his business buddies ever make themselves millions of dollars off of Vietnam war, while leaving our young men to die over there. It took Nixon to get us out. Kennedy got us in, Johnson escalated it, and there was never a plan to win it, as that is the way the democrats liberals operate. It’s all about money and power with them, and through the Vietnam war, they had both. But we all paid for it. Just like this wanker in office now. He has no plan, but we all pay for it, except the lazy crackhead and the dudes on the porch drinking 40′s all day, who now have free health insurance, while us working stiffs are now paying higher premiums and getting less coverage, and those who didnt buy it before because they coundnt afford it, are now being forced to buy it, and from the democrats own chose insurance company that they are in bed with. I have no doubt that if Obama engages us with Korea, he will have no plan’s to accomplish anything, other that to excert power and make money for him and his big business contacts. They have buffaloed the American public into thinking the Republicans are the ones in bed with big business’s, when the Democrats are even more so, while at the same time taxing the crap out of everyone else but making exemptions for his buddies companies. It will take another Republican or an Independant to clean up after them again.

    • Art Bowie

      “The Wall” web site for the Vietnam Memorial lists Air Force T-Sgt. Richard B. Fitzgibbon Jr as being killed June 8th of 1956. Actually, I believe the first advisors were sent to Vietnam during the Eisenhower administration.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Art Bowie,
        Finally! Someone else gets it right!!! I know this as I have a friend who served there during that time!!!

    • eddie47d

      Poppycock Mr Berberoni, Nixon escalated the Vietnam War. He also made that famous comment “anyone who can’t end this war in 4 years doesn’t deserve to be president” He was re-elected and the war went on and on. Over half the American casualties were under Nixon also. He was full 0f dodo too.

      • http://naver samurai

        I suggest you get your facts straight before posting. More than half of enemy casualties were under Nixon. Don’t forget that 1,100,000 NVA troops died during that war. Also that Nixon was the one who brought our troops home. Johnson didn’t have the BALLS to do it as he was making too much money on the side, war profits you know.

  • Curtis

    I agree with EltonJ and Jeryl D we shouldn’t be the world’s peace keepers

    • Mochona

      Hilburton thru KBR, Dick Chenny’s company made a lot of money via the Iraq war.
      Thus, it is not a peace keeping thing, it is ALL ABOUT MONEY making with Our Sons and Daughters as COLLATERAL Damage (Loss).
      People walk up and see thru this.

      • Art Bowie

        It might interest you to know that Halliburton through KBR was used by the US Army during the Bosnia Peacekeeping Mission under the Clinton administration. I guess it only became “evil” when Dick Cheney became Vice President in President Bush’s administration.

        • Mick for thought

          And they have trumped up the bill every time they had a government contract.

      • Meteorlady

        Funny – we have evolved into the world police force because it makes money for our big corporations. What corporation makes the money depends on who is in power. It’s not about oil in Iraq – it was always about the economy and corporations making money.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Meteorlady,
          You nailed it!
          Best Wishes,
          Bob

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            Amen Meteorlady and Bob. and I’m probably what would be called a liberal by many. We really need to find the commonground (sorry about the similarity to the “left wing” website. It seems the problem with the left and the right wings .. they never seem to question their favorite side of the bird. The left wing truly does have a good idea what’s wrong with the right wing.. and the right wingers have a good grip on what controls the left wing. They just need to remove the mote from their own eye first. Peace is possible.. but it begins within.

        • http://none Jeff

          What a remarkable coincidence how many people in the last administration had connections to oil. I would say it was definitely about oil and especiallly in Iraq. However it was also about a gas pipeline from the Caspian sea through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Packistan. Was it also a coincidence that karzai was a consultant on this project and Cheney and Rice represented Oil interests in the region. Wolfowitz had been part of a strategic paper on securing an oil source in the middle-east due to vulnerability of the U.S. in the ’70′s to sky-rocketing oil prices. George Bush was the poster child. I would suggest that it was very much about oil but also other corporations like the ones that make all the U.S. planes and weopons, not to mention the rest of the industrial complex. Anyone need to rent a soldier? Blackwater has everything you need for the occupation force of your dreams and the best thing is there is practically no oversight! If it is subcontracts you need to make sure you don’t have a clue where your money went, we can do that to. And our man in charge of re-building Iraq…he is also working for a company trying to secure money for Kuwait from Iraq for damages done. Nobody has a clue where all the rebuilding money went and not so much as a pit litrine was completed for the billions that was given in aid and no Iraqi’s were hired either. At least 600,000 of Iraqi civillians died. If it was not about oil then America must not have had any influence on contracts or made any money on Iraqi oil right?

          • http://naver samurai

            Koolaid, baaaaa! Blame Bush, baaaaa! War for oil, baaaaa! Cheney, baaaa! Can’t you sheeple come up with some other subject? At least under Bush we are trying to get Osama bin Laden and under Clinton, OMG, he was too much of a “PIMP” to worry about Osama. I’ll bet he does now!

        • Mick for thought

          You got it. Americas number one export is our military and the blood of our kids.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, dude. Our military only goes when it is told to and not one minute before. If you have any real ideas, please post them and put your sources on with them.

      • moody

        Who do you think owned KBR, Could it be a Dem (named Ladybird)?

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

        Now it looks like Obama has been paid off by BP along with many other democrats. The bulk of political contributions have gone to the left. Until recently Obama has turned his back on the oil spill and left it up to BP.

  • http://sheltonjames@yahoo.com james shelton

    North Korea is probably trolling the political waters for more money so they’ll bahave. They can’t feed their people with the current socialist policys, a lesson Washington hasn’t learned yet. China is supposed to be their friend so give them the responsibility to take action and force N.K. to stop the crap or else. Maybe if they lose the only friend they have they’ll at least try to behave like nice little children.

  • http://personliberty Dan

    The North WIll Smoke S KOREA,and they HAVE CHINA AS AN ALLY,They also intercepted our Great JETS 250 Miles off their COAST with 5 Jets,and we didn’t even know where they came from,f22,f9000,aint gonna make a difference,China ALready warned the USA,If any ships go anywhere near the CHINA SEA they will be at the Bottom of it…Its called SUNBURN,You dont even see it coming…….The S will be Glass within 30 Minutes,Most likley SEOUL will be SMOKED SOONER…….

    • Right Wing

      Is this the same Dan that on slithered onto the Memorial Day Message to say, “This will be short before I throw-up. What a bunch of Brain-Washed Conform and Submit Right-Wing Sheep. Baaaa, Baaaa, Baaaa”.

      Like many of the liberals here your posts are largely meaningless and you only get a response to establish a boundary over which We the People do not want you to cross. You are like a lesser form of human wanting heat and food from the fire but unwilling to gather wood or hunt. You compound your own dilemma by shouting criticism at those around the fire for hunting, wearing fur, destroying the forest for wood, etc. At the end of the day you get the dying embers and food scraps that fuel your discord and warped need for blame and “revenge”. The contributing members feel sorry for your ignorance and through a moral dilemma, we cannot let you just die off. So be happy with your scraps of food and wisdom. Support those that do when you cannot or become productive members that contribute to the group and enjoy all that it offers. Otherwise when your numbers become too large and cumbersome, you will be cast off like the load of parasites you are.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dan,
      don’t be rediculous! do you think China will detonate a nuke that close to their own land without the threat of invasion on their soil? Do you think those inscrutible leaders will risk dying of radiation poisoning? Don’t be absurd!!

  • 45caliber

    Democrat Actions:

    It has always been a fact that if the Democrats in office have a problem within the country such as economy and are looking bad prior to an election, they start a war somewhere. Johnson did it. Even FDR got involved with one. Clinton did it.

    This is no different. If they have problems here, get involved with a war somewhere and take the people’s mind off the problem by putting their sons and daughters in danger. It works – nearly every time. The big problem with 9-11 was that it happened on a Republican’s time in office. And he didn’t milk it like they do.

    • eddie47d

      Excuse me, Bush was the head milkman or was that Cheney. Both Vietnam and Iraq were sorry excuses for the human mind. What a waste.

      • 45caliber

        Bush was head on 9/11 – when WE were attacked. The other wars were started when we chose to. And that includes our admission into WWI, Korea, Vietnam, etc. We entered WWII when we were attacked but our people decided to allow it so we could get in.

        Quit trying to blame Bush for everything. He’s guilty of some but not all.

      • http://naver samurai

        Show me your enlistment papers and we’ll call it even.

  • PBrown

    Obama – You lie.

    • Mick for thought

      Succinct but what are you talking about.

  • Peter Ramsey

    A war in Korea would be a disaster for the entire world.
    However, I agree with you that Obama is capable of anything.
    LBJ was probably the most evil president in my living memory.
    I believe he is directly responsible for the murder of JFK.
    We’re not as free as we believe, the world is run by a clique of banking cartels – most presidents are vetted by the Council for Foreign Relations (CFR) chaired by David Rockefeller.

    • tazio2013

      Wrong again right wing wacko; cheney-bush is the absolute worse potus in history!

      • http://naver samurai

        Don’t forget that FDR tried to get us into WWII before 1941. In 1940 he sent our ships hunting for U-Boats and some of them never came back. One of the was the U.S.S. Gordon James, where most of the 900 men aboard were lost. How about a GOP president pulling us out of Vietnam and a democrat increasing the size and scale of the fight? Bush/Cheney can’t even compare with these fools!

      • JO JO HANS

        Could you please give us reasons that Bush/Cheney were the worst poster
        ever. That’s insane. You probably would have like to have Obama or some
        one of his character in there on 911. That’s the mentality of liberals.
        Iran, Korea,Turkey, it doesn’t matter. Nothing will change,war or no war. Protect Israel and let the rest of them kill themselves.
        America is being destroyed within by illegal immigrants and they are from everywhere, not just Mexico. Obama’s agenda was and is to change
        the fabric of this nation and he’s doing it as fast as he can with the
        help of his socialist, liberal, wicked administration. We need to vote
        them out and stop Obama NOW.

        • eddie47d

          Obama hasn’t even started a war yet and you are already accusing him of being the worst. Cheney was the worst,hands down. What an evil man.

          • 45caliber

            He is the worst President. That doesn’t mean he has to get into a war to become the worst. Bush didn’t get us into a war; the terrorists did when they blew up the World Trade Center. If you check, the Dems voted for it. And I think you are giving Cheney too much authority even if I don’t like him.

        • http://naver samurai

          Well siad. 100% agree. For God and country!

      • American Citizen

        I just read this morning that your POTUS, Obama, may be illegally in office after all.

        • Vicki

          ?? How so?

        • JC

          Do tell…what did you read?
          It’s no surprise though, there’s every indication he’s a Kenyan Muslim.

      • Meteorlady

        So give us some facts. By calling names and hurling insults you only demean yourself and show your lack of education, class or moral values and lack the ability to engage in an intelligent discussion.

        • 45caliber

          Facts about Obama? He pushed through his “stimulus” bill that was strictly pork and payback for various groups that supported him while he was running. He pushed through the Obamacare program that saddles us with trillions of dollars of debt and has more flaws than the British version does. He includes everyone paying for abortion whether you like it or not. He insists that all have to pay for health insurance whether you need it or not (except for the illegals, of course. We pay for them for ‘free’.) He wants to put through the cap and trade bill that would REALLY run up the debt while running up taxes and the price of energy without succeeding at anything. He wants to “redistribute” everyone’s pay check – at least all of us who work for a living. Except his own, of course. Shall I go on?

          • http://naver samurai

            100% agree.

          • Mick for thought

            Fact check your facts. They are not.

          • Allan

            100%

  • http://yahoo.com AmericanPatrot

    Why not send that Raptor to the border to keep out the millions of illegals crossing it…hell of a lot more important than whats going on in Korea…

    • Meteorlady

      Hear hear!

    • 45caliber

      But that might make the President of Mexico mad at us and declare war on us! Aren’t you trembling in fear?

    • Mick for thought

      back to decades old treaties.

      • http://naver samurai

        I’m pretty sure that our treaties with Mexico are updated by now.

  • Claire

    I would really hate to see China step in and get involved in a war between N. Korea and S. Korea. Do you realize how many soldiers they have? The amount is staggering. China has always kept their military “beefed up.” I read something awhile back that indicated they had a million or more soldiers? Can’t remember where I read this, does anyone else know?
    We do not need to be involved in this mess. We are already stretched to the max. Obama better keep a neutral stance and use his damn brain for a “change,” or we may very well be on the outs with China. We owe China millions and this is serious business. Don’t get me wrong, I am not afraid of China, I just don’t want America involved in this fiasco, we cannot take on additional wars. If we do, we won’t have any soldiers left here in America. We are so debt-ridden now over Iraq and Afghanistan that it would be foolhardy to step into this trouble bewteen N. Korea and S. Korea. Let them work it out themselves. Heck, they have been fighting amongst themselves for years. It will never be any different.

    • Rob Alexander

      I don’t think it matters all that much how many soldiers they have any more… Wars are fought from a distance with helicopters and planes and missiles now. It’s kinda useless to have a Civil War battlefield full of soldiers when a couple of missiles can toast ‘em all in seconds.

      • Claire

        Rob Alexander–True. But still, the number of soldiers they have is phenomenal.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Claire,
      China has a standing military of over a million men and women. That is why they would just walk over the south. They don’t need nukes to do it. They look at a dead soldier as one less mouth to feed in a country that can’t feed it’s population!
      As for North Korea, they have a two to one advantage in tanks and armor, they have almost a two to one advantage in air power and they already have tunnels under the border that only have to be punched through to use. South Korea would have their hands very full, even with the help of the U.S.!

  • Claire

    “between” I should proofread…

    • Claire

      North Korea versus South Korea:: Forget them, nothing can “fix” what “refuses” to be fixed. These people do not want peace, they never have. This is an ongoing saga that will always be in existence. I say, stay the heck out of it. Stupid is as stupid does if Obama chooses to get involved. Another dang issue to contend with. Is there no end to this insanity?

      • Rob Alexander

        Amen to that!

      • Mick for thought

        We have been involved from the 50s aka nearly 60 years.

        • http://naver samurai

          As long as they are two countries and not one, we’ll probably be there for a long time.

          • Mick for thought

            yep

  • Tom Matuszak

    My brother-in-law was in the Chosin Res. and spoke of the Chinese soldiers that were countless.

    North Korea will ally with China and we will be back in a conflict that is not winable

    When are we going to learn from History , and sweeep Washington out and start over?

    These are all diversions to have the American people look elsewher as the Fox blows down the houses.

    God Bless our men and women who serve but they are but Pawns in the greater SCHEMES for the people in Power.

  • Norm

    Let’s not forget:

    Rep. Alan Grayson
    Posted: May 29, 2010 09:48 AM
    We’ve Always Been at War with Eastasia
    On May 30, 2010, at 10:06 a.m, the direct cost of occupying Iraq and Afghanistan will hit $1 trillion. And in a few weeks, the House of Representatives will be asked to vote for $33 billion of additional “emergency” supplemental spending to continue the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. There will be the pretense of debate — speeches on the floor of both chambers, stern requests for timetables or metrics or benchmarks — but this war money will get tossed in the wood chipper without difficulty, requested by a president who ran on an anti-war platform. Passing this legislation will mark the breaking of another promise to America, the promise that all war spending would be done through the regular budget process. Not through an off-budget swipe of our Chinese credit card.
    The war money could be used for schools, bridges, or paying everyone’s mortgage payments for a whole year. It could be used to end federal income taxes on every American’s first $35,000 of income, as my bill, the War Is Making You Poor Act, does. It could be used to close the yawning deficit, supply health care to the unemployed, or for any other human and humane purpose.
    Instead, it will be used for war. Because, as Orwell predicted in 1984, we’ve reached the point where everyone thinks that we’ve always been at war with Eastasia. Why?
    Not because Al Qaeda was sheltered in Iraq. It wasn’t. And not because Al Qaeda is in Afghanistan. It isn’t. Bush could never explain why we went to war in Iraq, and Obama can’t explain why we are ‘escalating’ in Afghanistan.
    So, why? Why spend $1 trillion on a long, bloody nine-year campaign with no justifiable purpose?
    Remember 9/11, the day that changed everything? That was almost a decade ago. Bush’s response was to mire us in two bloody wars, wars in which we are still stuck today. Why?
    I can’t answer that question. But I do have an alternative vision of how the last 10 years could have played out.
    Imagine if we had decided after 9/11 to wean ourselves off oil and other carbon-based fuels. We’d be almost ten years into that project by now.
    Imagine if George W. Bush had somehow been able to summon the moral strength of Mahatma Gandhi, Helen Keller, or Martin Luther King Jr, and committed the American people to the pursuit of a common goal of a transformed society, a society which meets our own human needs rather than declaring “war” on an emotion, or, as John Quincy Adams put it, going “abroad, in search of monsters to destroy”.
    Imagine.
    Imagine that we chose not to enslave ourselves to a massive military state whose stated goal is “stability” in countries that never have been “stable”, and never will be.
    Imagine.
    “Imagine all the people, living life in peace.”

    • Right Wing

      Norm the more I piece together the fragmented thoughts of your posts you appear to be a liberal seagull…fly in, make a bunch of noise, crap all over everything, and disappear. Alan “Man Without a Mirror” Grayson, seriously? If you want to cite a reference with some history and a track record of (poor) success then Grayson is the “mini-me” to Obama’s “Alinskyesque” agenda.

      Try reaching back to the constitution for a greater understanding of the need for global militia. Try: John Jay, “Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence”, Federalist 2-5, 1787. There are some big words there and i am sure your lips will be moving for awhile and you might have to use a dictionary…but try.

      http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/fedi.htm

    • Ken

      Give me a break with the John Lennon tag line. Let the Koreas eat each other. NOTHING good comes out of North Korea. We don’t need any more cheap crappy cars from South Korea. How about an envoy to China to sign a mutual pact to stay out of this conflict. The Korean peninsula has almost no strategic value, unless you are Japanese. Given that we are Americans, maybe we should leave this problem to the people that MIGHT be affected by it. If that little turd does have an atomic weapon, and he threatens to use it, then crisp the whole place.

      • Norm

        Ken
        We have to be careful with China or they’ll pull our credit card.
        Get in debt with your worse ememy. Another gift from money driven system.

        • Dave

          Norm, please return your credit card

        • http://naver samurai

          Oh I don’t know. China helped Clinton win in 1996 bt giving him money for his campaign.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry, but we must keep our promises. America doesn’t cut and run you moron. Grow up and get a life!

        • Dave

          Personally, I don’t even own a credit card… Seriously! I pay my bills and I don’t owe anyone squat! I even have $ in the bank, investments, retirement funds, etc. The reason this is, is because I understand that I CANNOT spend my way to prosperity! I didn’t borrow anything from China! GET IT NOW!!!

    • Meteorlady

      Let me help a little Norm:

      For GWB, energy was first and foremost a national security issue. He had warned in 2000, “As a result of our foreign oil imports skyrocketing, America is at the mercy more than ever of foreign governments and cartels.”

      Also from Bush:
      The best way to break this addiction is through technology. Since 2001, we have spent nearly $10 billion to develop cleaner, cheaper and more reliable alternative energy sources. And we are on the threshold of incredible advances. So tonight I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative — a 22% increase in clean-energy research at the Department of Energy to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas. To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy.
      We must also change how we power our automobiles. We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen.

    • 45caliber

      Imagine not doing anything about 9/11 and having the White House, New York, Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, LA, San Francisco and a dozen other cities bombed because they think we are weak.

      Imagine a land where we are FREE and not micromanaged by the government as you suggest.

    • Mick for thought

      I can imagine all the people living all in peace but it does not make the bad guys want to kill me less. Reality is reality.

  • Mochona

    The war is helping to keep folks at Rethyon, Hilburton, Martin-Mareata, Blackwater, etc,etc,etc employed. It is a works program.
    What is your take?

    • http://naver samurai

      How much koolaid do you drink a day?

  • BigBadJohn

    Like I have said before…. My biggest complaint about Obama is that he is doing EXACTLY the same things that Bush did!!!

    Bush started a phony war in Iraq so he could open the US treasury to his supporters, Obama learned that lesson well…

    • Right Wing

      BBJ, Bush did everything that many other presidents did and more…he caused Katrina. He even claimed responsibility for it! Where did Ray Nagan’s big mouth go after Bush claimed responsibility? Silent.

      No president is immune to the collective strength of a government corrupted past the point of serving the people and this is exactly what most people want to see changed. Government is serving itself by pandering to voter bases. They rub it in our faces and laugh at us while we toil for ourselves. Chew on this for a while…

      “…it will be equally forgotten that the vigor of government is essential to the security of liberty; that, in the contemplation of a sound and well-informed judgment, their interest can never be separated; and that a dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the forbidden appearance of zeal for the firmness and efficiency of government. History will teach us that the former has been found a much more certain road to the introduction of despotism than the latter, and that of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants.” ~ Alexander Hamilton

    • Rob Alexander

      I’ve said it many times now, usually to Democrats who mistakenly think they gotten some kind of “change”, for the better no less:

      Obama is Bush on steroids.

      Everything bad Bush did, Obama is doing the same but to a higher degree.

    • Tammy

      Excuse me but Bush did not start a phony war, We the People of the United States of America wanted war, for 9/11, All the news agency held polls asking Americans if they wanted war, Heck I even voted for it, You people seem to forget that those @#@@# came to our home and hit us hard. I for one will not stand still and let you slap me in the face without knocking you on your dairy-air. Doesn’t anyone remember the unity that we all went through after 9/11??????? Am I the only one?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Tammy,
        Getting them to admit that they agreed with going to war at the time would be akin to getting anyone to admit they voted for a bad president, ain’t gonna’ happen!!!

        • BigBadJohn

          Wrong, A vast majority of people wanted OBL’s head on a platter so backed the war in Afghanistan. However, when Bush had Osama Bin Laden cornered in Tora Bora – HE LET HIM GET AWAY! Why? Because Iraq was more important to Bush than actually getting the people that attacked us!

  • Barb

    I think John Meyers is right ! Obama is trying desperately to distract us from all the domestic crap going on here and all the rest of the crap he is trying to cram down our throats. Meanwhile he also wants to divert our attention from the mideast and especially what’s going on with Israel and Afghanistan, his war I might add. We had a vested interest in the Iraq war whether you want to believe that, Norm or not! But why should we get involved in Korea again? If they can’t defend themselves by now why is that our problem? We need to butt out and take care of the USA and that means concentrate on getting rid of Obama once and for all. The lying, cheating worthless, illegal that he is!

    • eddie47d

      Barb, Where’s the diversion? Obama hasn’t said anything that another President wouldn’t have said on the Korea situation. Where’s our vested interest in Iraq? That conflict never should have been. Are you just blowing alot of smoke? Is your hatred for Obama that intense that you don’t see any solutions to anything?

      • http://naver samurai

        Don’t forget moron that Clinton hit empty terrorist cams in Afghanistn, an aspirin factory in the Sudan, and went into Bosnia (There was no need to go there) jus to get the press and the average citizen of his white !@#$%^& about the women he was seeing. Study your facts first.

      • Mick for thought

        Your last sentence hit the nail on the head. Barb is a paranoid and believes everything she reads on this and every other right wing website. When I tried to get a rational thought from her she called me a liar and disappeared for a week.

        • http://naver samurai

          Do something a liberal doesn’t have the guts to do and show us some facts and your sources. Then, get ready to have your leader Osaaaaama taken out of office in 2012. Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa!

          • Mick for thought

            I do Samurai. Practise what you preach but because I am an independent not a liberal.

  • Right Wing

    War is not the issue, it is the nature of the war and the reason for US involvement that is in question. To claim that America should retract to a protectionist defensive posture is defeatist and absurd. Running a country is a business and the costs and benefits must be weighed for all facets of activity ranging from friendly negotiations to all-out war.

    The real issue here is that the federal government is tasked with keeping a militia to defend the country. It is also tasked with operating as a service to the citizens of this country. The real problem then with military action is when it is not used tactfully to achieve protections needed for the progress of the US. For a greater understanding of the Constitutional importance of protection you need to read the Federalist writings. The intent of trade protection was heavily considered when the Constitution was presented to the public
    for adoption. Our founding fathers clearly recognized the importance of trade controls. Underpinning the Constitution is the need for militia and while I do not advocate that the document suggests we use force to control trade, there are applications where it has been and may again be necessary.

    War for political gain…good for few, bad for many.
    War for love…again…good for few, bad for many.
    War for natural resources…good for many, bad for few/many.
    War for grudge…bad for all.
    War for religion…bad for all….fill in your own.

    • Dave

      War for freedom…good for people, bad for politicians
      War for politics…bad for people, good for politicians
      War on politicians…good for people, good for politicians

      Kick em’ all out!

      • Rob Alexander

        How do you have a war for freedom, unless it’s against the ruling power a la the American Revolution?

        Freedom always contracts, it never expands, during war.

    • Vicki

      Right wing writes:

      “The real issue here is that the federal government is tasked with keeping a militia to defend the country.”

      That would be a standing army. The founders warned us about a standing army. The federal government is tasked with TRAINING all citizens in the art of arms so that we the people, who are the militia, can not be taken over by military force from without nor from within.

  • Chaos factor

    It’s typical that the rightys would try and find a way to blame president Obama for yet another problem that the last Rrpublicans administration just ignored and shoved on down the road…..the Cia and Fbi both said North Korea had sunk the S. Korean ship…..by the way…. President Obamas approval poll has moved up to 54% …. and of course Fox propaganda station and Tokyo Rush didn’t even mention that…I believe the portion of the American public that still has any commonsense sees that no matter what our president does the Anti American rightwing will spin it the opposite of the truth…

    • Right Wing

      Is the portion of America with common sense you refer to sharing your medical marijuana with you right now? Check Rasmussen, “Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president’s performance. Fifty-three percent (53%) disapprove.”

      • Norm

        Right Wing
        FYI
        Ronald Reagan’s approval rating was 42% at this point in his first term.

        • JeffH

          Normie, Reagan is long gone and your POTUS is to be gone soon (2012) enough.

          FYI 6/2/2010…The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14

          Now remember this is O-B-A-M-A’s “strongly approve” poll = 26%? WOW!

          • http://naver samurai

            With his mishandling the oil spill and other things, these numbers will probably don’t more very soon.

  • Pat Ridge

    The first US soldiers killed in Vietnam were in 1959,2 years before JFK came to power.I was never a fan of LBJ but to be fair to him let’s say he made a speech in 1964 “Alright we pulling out of Vietnam lock,stock and barrel next week” Reagan,Goldwater,John Wayne etc would be screaming from the rooftops that the Democrats are soft on Communism etc hindsight is 20/20 remember,having said all that John Meyers makes a lot of good points.

    • http://bigal.com Big Al

      Actually, the first american killed in Vietnam happened way back in 1945 when the French first began returning to Indochina. America took over the French Indochina War financially around 1950, and fully took control of the South Vietnamese government and military around 1956.
      LBJ’s Tonkin incident simply was the final step.

  • JC

    I have to wonder…is this yet another false flag operation to distract from domestic events? To take our attention off of the incredible incompetence presently in DC?
    It wouldn’t be the first time and as we know…war is big business.

  • Norm

    Quotes on Peace and War
    by Thomas Jefferson

    ” I love peace, and am anxious that we should give the world still another useful lesson, by showing to them other modes of punishing injuries than by war, which is as much a punishment to the punisher as to the sufferer.”

    ” War has been avoided from a due sense of the miseries, and the demoralization it produces, and of the superior blessings of a state of peace and friendship with all mankind.”

    ” I value peace, and I should unwillingly see any event take place which would render war a necessary resource.”

    ” Believing that the happiness of mankind is best promoted by the useful pursuits of peace, that on these alone a stable prosperity can be founded, that the evils of war are great in their endurance, and have a long reckoning for ages to come, I have used my best endeavors to keep our country uncommitted in the troubles which afflict Europe, and which assail us on every side.”

    ” I do not believe war the most certain means of enforcing principles. Those peaceable coercions which are in the power of every nation, if undertaken in concert and in time of peace, are more likely to produce the desired effect.”

    ” We love and we value peace; we know its blessings from experience. We abhor the follies of war, and are not untried in its distresses and calamities.”

    ” The evils which of necessity encompass the life of man are sufficiently numerous. Why should we add to them by voluntarily distressing and destroying one another? Peace, brothers, is better than war. In a long and bloody war, we lose many friends, and gain nothing. Let us then live in peace and friendship together, doing to each other all the good we can.”

    ” Born in the same land, we ought to live as brothers, doing to each other all the good we can, and not listening to wicked men, who may endeavor to make us enemies. By living in peace, we can help and prosper one another; by waging war, we can kill and destroy many on both sides; but those who survive will not be the happier for that.”

    ” I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.”

    “The most successful war seldom pays for its losses.”

    “War is as much a punishment to the punisher as to the sufferer.”

    ” War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.”

    • Right Wing

      “Now I shall go and make more peace with my slave women” TJ

    • http://naver samurai

      Isn’t it amazing that when libs start losing they only have about 3 strategies to use, one of which is bringing up Thomas Jefferson. If he were alive and saw what the DEM had turned into, he’d probably be mad as heck and join the TEA PARTY and tell Obama bin Laden to get out and never come back.

      • Norm

        samurai
        Or not.

      • Right Wing

        Right on Samurai. Norm do your own homework and quit citing the liberal playbook.

        • http://naver samurai

          Hooaah! For God and country!

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        TJ would be sick alright.. with both parties. and I highly doubt he’d be keeping company with some of the insane right wingers on this group.

  • Raggs

    obama the world dictator….
    Yup this false flag war is just what he needs, the sheeple will never see it coming.

    • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

      I couldn’t agree more. Look how they all lined up with the Weapons of Mass Destruction. Even after the Bush regime admitted there really were none there are still yahoos insisting there were. The so called left wing media has never gone back and seriously corrected that either and that’s because there is no left wing (or even right wing) media. It’s all the corporate owned media and who owns the corporations? Back to square one

  • Harry Cauley

    Obama doen’t lie! He actually believes his own warped thining.

  • American Liberal

    Are you finally admitting the Iraq war and all the propaganda leading up to it was Phony?….and that those that lost their lives both American and Iraqi died for a another phony cause?… I wonder if the Neo cons that supported the Iraq war would think it’s a phony war if they had got Iraqs Oil reserves…..remember, Iraqi oil was going to pay for Bush and Cheneys personal war of profit in Iraq…. We probley won’t ever know how much Bush , Cheney and the other Pnac war Profiteers made off Iraq….. I’m still holding out some hope Bush & Cheney will face war crimes someday …. One of my biggest complaints is that Obama didn’t go after Bush and Cheney criminally ….and. Is anyone suprised Iran has closer ties to Iraq than Washington has….that’s all Bush war accomplished… They made Iraq Iran west…

    • Meteorlady

      Why not pose the question to the Kurds that are still alive today and to the Iraq people that get to vote in an election?

  • Marilyn

    The only way to end these ridiculous, blood sucking, greedy wars is:
    “If the President gave a war party and nobody came.” My husband was a B29 gunner during the Korean WAR and missile technician during the Vietnam WAR. When my husband lay on death’s bed, all he could think about was the people he had killed and his peers being destroyed for nothing- all for the Presidents of the United States- to keep their asses in power. Those two wars were for greedy, money making, power seeking Presidents and Congress-Johnson was the worse! Now, Obama wants a piece of the action for a show of strength about his ability to put more military in harm’s way and keep his ass in the big leather chair in Washington DC. Put a note on your refrigerator door: November 2nd, TAKE OUT THE TRASH!

    • Norm

      Marilyn
      I agree with your post, but I am a little surprised that you only named Democratic presidents and were mute about Bush/Cheney. The Iraqui war is nearly 9 years old!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        normie,
        If you had half a brain, you would have understood the lady mentioned those wars because those were the ones her husband served in! You should have never traded it norm!!!

      • eddie47d

        I agree with Marilyn but it is always diliberate when Anyone leaves out the mistakes of others and that includes Joe.

        • http://naver samurai

          Sorry Ed, but you’re wrong. I’ve done actions like this also, but I never think about the ones I sent beofre God. I only think about the kids, women, and those too weak to fight that I have saved along the way. I know the war I fought was different, but I still get e-mails from children that I’ve helped during my military days. Can you say the same thing?

  • s c

    Let that sawed-off putz posture all he wants. China pulls his strings. He knows what he can and can’t do. As long as this world full of puppet masters and puppets exists, we can expect more of the same.
    North Korea is used to create fear. China stands back and waits to see what happens. We send ‘diplomats,’ and they get more media time to say nothing and accomplish nothing.
    In the spirit of diplomacy and a re-distribution of non-talent, maybe we should let North Korea have some of our diplomats. How could it possibly make life worse? Good riddance to those who can’t get elected yet still expect to live like kings and queens.

  • Joe G

    I don’t believe that China wants to go to war with us nor do we want to go to war with them. Lets face it. We are their best customers! We buy massive amounts of goods from them and we borrow a ton of money as well. It would be like pulling up to the drive through window at the bank and having the teller throw pens and calendars at you while the branch manager was letting the air out of your tires!
    War is not a failure of the people. It is the failure of politicians on both sides as well as “leaders” from other countries and we pay for the reality of it all.

    • American Citizen

      It’s time for all politicians of every country to put on boxing gloves and have at it. The last one standing wins.

    • Meteorlady

      I’m not sure about a massive amount of “goods” it’s more like a massive amount of cheap junk.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Meteorlady,
        You SAID IT LADY!!!!

    • BigBadJohn

      Here’s a scary thought for you. If we go to war with China, we will have to borrow the money from them to do it! Thanks to the last three republican presidents.

  • BenDover

    What about the most phony, immoral war of all, George W. Bush’s Iraq war? Conservatives are THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES.

    • Right Wing

      Ben…looks like you bent too far left and got the full, un-lubed, liberal shaft. There is no justification for an unnecessary war but unfortunately the line for defining necessary is pretty blurry. You libs cried all through Bush era wars and now you cry when your boy is the target.

      • Chaos Factor

        Rightwing … Today’s wars are wars the mental midget Bush is responsible for….the only people trying very desperatly to blame Obama are you rightys….in Afghanistan President Obamas following the advise of the Generals for more troops… Your president( Bush) ignored Afghanistan for most of his presidency so he could have his personal war in Iraq… President Obama promised to get us out of Iraq and to do it as carefully as Bush blundered in ..

        • http://?? Joe H.

          CF,
          Yup you are right. Odumber pulled those troops out of Iraq in record time. Oh Wait! Their still there. Well at least he drew down the troops in Afghanistan. Oh Wait, they’re still at the same place and at even a greater number!!! Wow! What a record!!! and what’s up with that patriot act???

        • Meteorlady

          Oh wait – we have “paid” mercenaries there now too. Those guys make more in one week than our military makes in 3 months.

        • http://naver samurai

          Can’t you libs say anything else than “war for oil?” It’s getting a bit old isn’t it?

          • Mick for thought

            Whre did anyone say war for oil. Lots of ducking and weaving to issues brought up by either side.

          • http://naver samurai

            Mick, anyone can tell you that anytime you libs talk about Iraq you always say Bush, Cheney, and oil. It’s like a broken record. Baaaaa! Baaaaa!

        • Right Wing

          Chaos, I do not play the blame game. I think the blame for all the trouble we are in spreads across party lines from FDR forward. I exclude Truman and Ike but not as a point to debate. I think you might find that many “rightys” here want real change that includes moving back into line with the direction of the Constitution. It makes no real difference to me whose “fault” it is. I just want to associate with people who share a common understanding of how to keep America from slipping into the dust bin.

          Our founders had the foresight of potential pitfalls and crafted the Constitution with these in mind. They also were thoughtful enough to provide detailed letters describing the thought processes that formed the Constitution. At the end of the day I hope that the number of people who share a similar line of sight are sufficient enough to re-direct what looks like an ill-fated course.

      • eddie47d

        Obama hasn’t started a war yet so at least be honest enough to wait until one gets going. Too much pre-emtive B.S.

    • http://naver samurai

      Is your name Ben Dover or bend over? It sounds like that the libs are giving you a lot of impact in a lower part of your body!

      • Mick for thought

        Must be late in the day. This sounds like alcohol induced wisdom.

        • http://naver samurai

          No, but if anyone really believe “Osama” then they must be doing something immoral.

          • Mick for thought

            Read my other blogs Samurai. I am not a liberal. Does your employer know you sit there with an open bottle of Jack Daniels why you write this right wing silly crap. You are just the opposite pole of the crazy lefties in the room. They drink their Kool Aid while your brain swims in alcohol. What is the difference you are both on drugs.

  • Chaos Factor

    Afghanistan?… The Generals ask for more troops….. That’s why the escalation ….and it’s a little late for you republicans and so called conservative to finally be admitting the Iraq war was phony..i guess it’s so you can claim Obamas fighting phony wars now….the hypocracy of the right is noted… Again… Some of us know these domestic issues you say Obama wants to distract us from are all republican/ conservative made problems..

    • Right Wing

      “Some of us know these domestic issues you say Obama wants to distract us from are all republican/ conservative made problems.” Again these must be your bong-toting posse.

      • eddie47d

        Again you have selective memory so that bong must be working for you!

        • http://naver samurai

          Off the koolaid and go back to your sheappard “Osama.” Baaaa, Baaaa!

          • Mick for thought

            More alcohol.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, Mick. Never drank in my life, that’s true. Can you come up with something more creative?

    • American Citizen

      Chaos, whatever you’re smoking has damaged your brain.

      • Chaos Factor

        American citizen… Of course you are incapable of pointing out what’s incorrect in my post … But I’m not suprised… Your ignorance is noted… Again

        • http://?? Joe H.

          CF,
          you’re getting better!!! At least you are admitting that your post is Incorrect!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Always is and always will be! Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Bringing in the sheeple!

    • Dave

      The Iraq wasn’t phony. It really happened. I saw it on T.V. Really I did! Let’s see now… the dictator is gone…they have free and open elections. We got all this for the bargin price of 1 trillion dollars! Hell, Obama spent more than that last year!!!

      • Norm

        Dave
        We have over 90,000 of the best troops in the world(US) and probably close to as many paid mercenaries, and God nows how many civilion employees from the private sector in iraq today.
        If that is success I’d hate to see failure.

        • http://naver samurai

          Baaaa, baaaa! Iraq, baaaa!

          • Mick for thought

            Pretty drunk by now.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, Mick, but you sound like the one that is drunk. Nonsense, one liners, etc., get a life and post something worth reading.

        • Dave

          Norm,
          So, what you are saying is it’s okay that Obama & Co. are bankrupting this country? I have a boy in college, the first thing he will need to do when he graduates is get a job so he can start paying back the loans. Only problem is there are no jobs! He will get a great $100,000 education but there won’t be a job avail. for him because OBAMA felt it necessary to grow the Federal Government by +10% in the middle of a huge recession instead of helping the private sector grow. Just wait until this idealistic moron figures out that there is no more (other peoples) money to spend. He will be out of office but we will still have to pay the bills! Or, at least our son’s and daughter’s and grand children will.

          Obama should just quit. He is in way over his head. It’s like the JFK missel crisis every flippin’ day over and over again. Most of us have had enough of this BS!

          1) China is dumping the dollar and buying gold for a reason!

          2) Canada is moving back to private pay for healthcare!

          3) Hopefully, Blago will spill the beans on this Userper!

          4) What about the fake social security card?

          5) Let’s see that locked up birth certificate. Why the hell has he spent 2 million on lawyers hiding it?

          6) Where the hell did he get 2 miilion anyways? He was a community organizer for Christ sake! Senator for a few months… I believe they make about $175,000 anually. OH YEAH, THAT’S RIGHT he knows Tony Resnowe!!!

          I, as have many many others, had enough of this!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    North Korea—Brace For Another Phony War June 2, 2010 by John Myers:

    Thank you John Myers for finally making sense for me about how these things happen! I was in Vietnam 1969-1970 and quickly felt quite betrayed by my country! Nothing I was seeing and hearing made any sense to me, expect it was all about the rich getting richer in some way! I used to follow WND all the time, but since I have found you guys, I rarely even check them out when they send things to me! I don’t imagine under the present circumstances that you guys will not get destroyed by the government too, if that’s what did happen to WND? Keep up the great coverage! In addition, Bob Livingston’s Personal Liberty Digest | Personal Liberty News is the best site on the web!

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virgil

      I am also a veteran and remember the accusations about the reason for being in Vietnam. Some may remember the idea that there was oil there and we wanted it! It was a lie. We heard that the reason was for military contracts, which is about as foolish to believe. We won the battles but left! We left because of the same lies as above and because it was not a real war.. it was a Political War! We also remember that when we went to rescue Kawait it was to win this Country back from Suddam. We did it. We made the powers that be say it will not be a political war as we are into winning it. We left Nam because we lost the political war here in the US! One may note that even Fidel Castro loves to praise our new President! Our own Constitution is being attacked by the far left. They want to take out the fact it says the government is not the one that gives us freedoms! Our freedoms are ordained freedoms that all should have and are born with! They want ORDAINED OUT so they can tell us what our freedoms are! We may note that the States have different rights and laws that are Constitutional for our own protections. Some maybe against the Constitution and those, we may note, are in the far left voting States. Be on the lookout for your rights to freedom being controlled by the Supreme Court, which has a problem with Liberal agenda and with Americans having their rights as stated in our OWN Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    • Ron Byerly

      I don’t imagine under the present circumstances that you guys will not get destroyed by the government too, if that’s what did happen to WND?

      Could you expand on this a little more please. Since WND is still there, are you suggesting that they have been diminished in some way. I have relied on them a great deal and am certainly open to look into any problems they may have with their reporting or, any other problems they may be experiencing. I do realize that anyone doing exposes is going to attract the attention of the left.
      Thank you,
      Ron Byerly

  • WarriorH

    What’s everyone fretting about? The U.N. will certainly get involved and bring lasting peace to the region right after they take care of that Israeli/Palestinian dispute thing.
    Has South Korea boycotted Arizona yet?

    • JeffH

      …soon WarriorH…soon…

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virgil

      If one suggests the UN will do anything right they have not had their head out of the sand in 20 years! The UN declared that the millions killed in Sudan was because of Internal Affairs, which is a total lie! The UN is a puppet for Muslim doctrine as we may note on proposals from the Muslim controlled Nations. The UN should never take religious sides in any war or action. It is their job to be neutral, unless human rights are so violated… such as rape; chopping off a a mother’s breasts; chopping off arms and legs; or severing tendons in legs! Then it should take action, but we do not see it! Instead, as with Israel, they lie to support their Muslim Nations! We may note they are totally with Palestine in any conflict; although the rockets keep on being launched at Israel! What would we do if rockets were coming into our cities? What would any of the UN member nations do or should do if it were they who had this? In short, the UN is a puppet of the Muslim religion Nations. We can call it fear of lose of oil; or whatever. It is well noted.

  • Ann M Szafko

    I don’t see the correlation that Bush attacked Iraq because he needed to bolster his polls. To compare the events that led to the war in Iraq to the reasons for LBJ or Obama to start or escalate a far away confrontation is ludicrous.

    WE WERE attacked on Sep 11 2001 by a terrorist organization that is spread across the Middles East and we had a better chance at fighting it from the region, rather than hunker down and hope it would not be repeated. The Chinese wall does not work in modern times, and as a major economic and military power in the world, we will always have enemies (rivals) who want to knock us off our perch.

    We HAD to unseat Saddam Hussein, who if memory would just serve some right, was a supporter, aider and abetter of terrorists and through his expansionist desire to be the sole power to control the flow of oil in the region, he had to GO! Why him and not another Middle Eastern country, is because at the time he was the weakest domino (condemned by the world and the UN) to knock out and settle in for the long war of fighting terrorism.

    What is happening in the Korean peninsula is less important to us as of now (even though an insane leader like Kim Il Jong with nuclear power IS a threat to the world), but Obama and the Democrat Party’s numbers ARE in trouble and the tendency to make a mountain out of a mole hill is justifiably attributable to the Obama administration to use it as a distraction from other major issues his administration faces.

    Why don’t we just ask ourselves, if not us, who? China? Would all of you think the world would be a better and more peaceful place with a Chinese hegemony over world affairs?

    • Meteorlady

      Ah a sensible comment thanks.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    roosevelt,kennedy,johnson,truman,wilson,and bush all needed wars to stay in office. obama is no differnt. war is hell, and when you start it it gets messy.roosevelt knew the japanese were going to attack pearl harbor, because he personally ordered our carriers out of pearl because he knew that ww2 was going to be fought with and won by carriers.kennedy and johnson needed veitnam to start their great society,wilson said that he was neutal but warned germany about sinking ships saying he was neutral but allowed england to ship munitions on cruise ships and the germans warned america and the people that the ship was going to be sunk and was and it was carring munitions. truman did not need to save korea because it was part of china and it was a cival war. and bush wanted to have his own war to stay in office but he almost had a reason. obama wants to be a dictator and during a war all rights are suspended. and what better oppurtunity to take over and institute his dictatorship. enjoy.

  • Dee Mills

    Government is the real enemy here, doesnt matter what party! Im so afraid of what will happen in the next 5 to 10 years. And another war this will be unsustainable, we have enough already. I really fear for the US and the people, with this new dictator in power, he scares me to death, wake up American and see what is happening, the sooner we get him out of power the better, and he was to be the next Savior, I think people who voted for him were temporarily insane!!

    • mtcajun

      Well said, every body is pointing fingers towards each other, the right and left wingers. An eagle needs two good wings to fly. PLEASE AND I BEG everyone to stop this and start seeing the big picture. People need to pull together and put all that energy together and fight the big money people that are out of sight and controlling OWER GOVERNING people. Don’t forget that money is the root of all evil and will control anyone. We need to cut the wings off the buzzards and heel the ones on our eagle, Both right and left. PLEASE consider these thoughts, I want my eagle to fly with his head up high THANKS MARKT

  • American liberal

    It must be frustrating to you anti American , Government hating rightwing radicals….. You’ve thrown every lie and insult you can think of at president Obama and his poll numbers just go up….after all these republican made disasters and Blunders and his approval poll went up to 54%….lol….Maybe Obama should reinvade Granada like Reagan… That sure made the world a safer place….

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

      Actually Obama’s rating is at 47%. But you are right it is amazing his approval rating is that high considering his incompetence. A lot of that has to do with him being an exceptionally good liar and that the main stream media are cheerleaders for him.

      • Dave

        The one thing about liar’s is that they have to remember every one of those lie’s. Eventually the telliprompter will reveal the lie’s. He is already starting to put his foot in his mouth. The Blago trial should help this happen if the lawyer’s do their job! :)

    • JC

      We patriots know our enemy AmLib. You know him as your deity…
      Love the Constitution…Love America.
      That doesn’t leave any room for you socialist sycophants.

      • eddie47d

        Many of these wars aren’t making us any safer. Our invasion of Granada was a little overbearing and mostly show. Numerous warships to stop a few revolutionaries. We love the show of power and use it whenever we can. What a grand use of our tax dollars.

        • http://naver samurai

          What about the students being held captive by the Cubans there? Don’t you think that they want to be free?

          • Mick for thought

            I was in that operation Samurai and he is right. It was a big show for something a few special operations teams could have done quickly and quietly.

            PS If your one-liner poking and prodding is not alcohol induced I recommend you follow your own recommendations. Make comments of substance. Or is baaaahing like a sheep your mating call.

      • JC

        eddie, this might be the one area we come close to agreement on.
        I do not believe we are obligated to support other nation’s or send our kids off to be policemen in ancient disputes between foreign nations.
        Non intervention according to our Constitution is something I believe in.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JC,
          does non-intervention include leaving American students to their own means in Grenada?

    • del

      American Liberal: I see you are back to pulling more B.S. numbers out of your arse

  • American liberal

    Dee… Government isn’t my enemy…. I love our government and our President….feel free to go find a better government… Nobodys making you stay….

    • JC

      How about we just send you and your government back to Kenya and we keep our country as the Constitutional Republic it is meant to be.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        JC well said!

    • Meteorlady

      Who would support all your liberal causes and what wealth would be left to redistribute if we all found somewhere else?

      Where is John Galt when you need him most?

      • Chaos Factor

        Jc…. My president won the election…. He’s still very popular with America … You and your rightwing radicals are the oddballs… If you don’t like our president or our government then leave… Your of no good to our country and the civilized world anyway…..we don’t want you or need you…

        • JC

          I’ll stick around and fight for my Country and my Constitution.
          You follow your leader, we’ll see who prevails.

        • http://naver samurai

          Bringing in the sheeple! Baaaaa! Baaaaa!

          • Mick for thought

            Surprised you can still type,

          • http://naver samurai

            Keep on going and I’ll reach right through the computer and kick your little !@#$%^ you moron. Please try sounding like an adult, if you are one.

          • Mick for thought

            Likewise Samurai. Really got you stirred up acting like you didn’t I.

        • Norm

          Chaos Factor
          The great thing about this country is everyone is entitled to their opinion.
          Obama is far from perfect, but considering the idiot he replaced, he is a super star. Listening to someone who can actually speak in the English language is big in itself.

          • http://naver samurai

            An American shall have the right to speak out against their elected officials without anything happening to them. This freedom of speak shall not be taken from any American. 1st amendment. Notice it doesn’t say that you can say anything you want, moron! While we are on the subject, since Obama bin Laden isn’t an American, ergo he doesn’t have this right does he?

          • Dave

            Show me the birth certificate! Every other president elect has… No other President or, President elect, has ever hidden his/her birth certificate. No other President has spent 2 million (28 million pesos)hidding their birth certificate!?!? Where is Obama when you need him?

          • Allan

            He’s certainly got “Uh…” down pat.

        • Dave

          Um? We would rather kick YOU out :) Have you noticed the fake people you think you are representing are NOT coming to your rescue? Come November, you will understand. And then, and only then, you will realize that you were raised by CNN and or, Chris (I just puked) Mathews

    • Vicki

      Government is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Our constitution was designed to keep government as the servant. Since the Constitution is mostly ignored by government it is rather obvious that it has become that fearful master we were warned of. AL you go ahead and love the master if you wish.

      Evidence that government has reached master status is in the health care bill requiring the slaves (us) to buy the master’s friends produce.

  • David J. Sanchez

    Bravo to all the thinking and emotionally reserved individuals of this country who are ready to regain control of the constitutional-conservative values that the Founders had in mind. Bring the troops homes and make sure that we have the strongest military in the world to protect our interests and not the other nations of the world. When other nations adopt our constitution then we can have a true fellowship of mankind. Dave S.

  • http://google mike b.

    Hussein Obama is a thug!!! There is no end to him and his minions destroying the america we once knew. He is the most anti-american president in history. His chicago-style thug politics have now took over Washington. He is a terriosts best friend and is continually apoligizing for america and blaming it for the world’s ills. Hussein Obama and this criminal, democrat-led congress will stop at nothing in trampling our constitutional rights and ruining america for future generations to come. Goverment intrusion, double-digit un-employment and bowing to foreign leaders and governments are becoming commonplace with this joke of a leader Hussein Obama. Hussein Obama, Pelosi, and Reid must be voted out and stopped before they permentaly ruin the United States of America. They are in all-out attack mode against the only democracy and life-time allie of Isreal and takes foreign country’s side Mexico, against one of the states in the union, Arizona. Hussein Obama and his minions in the state-controlled mainstream media must be voted out in 2010 and 2012 and the average American people must end this lunacy of this marxist, commuinist regime that is now in charge of our country. We must do this for the sake of our kids and grandkids who will doing nothing but re-paying the massive debt this thug Hussein Obama has quad-tripled since being in office. They will have to bring back pride and properity in America that this juvenile administration and congress is trying to destroy forever along with thier co-horts in the state-controlled media. They will need to bring back passion and patriotism for America that this administration destains. It may be too late and Hussein Obama has probaly caused un-repairable damage with his constant america-bashing. He has not ever praised America for it’s greatness and never will. Government will always be the enemy of freedom and goodwill and the quicker we get these govenment intruders and anti-constitutionlist marxist, communist leaders out of our way the more the average american citizens can prosper and freedom can prevail. GOD Bless America and vote these United States haters Hussein Obama and his criminal, liberal democrat-controlled congress thugs out as soon as possible before its too late to save anything of this once great, free nation. Ever since the liberal democrats took control of this country in 2006 they have ruined it in four-plus years. Enough is enough. Wake up people before it’s too late and try to save what tiny piece of constitutional rights, money, and liberty we have left. Vote these bums out in 2010 and thug-in-chief Hussein Obama out in 2012.

    • eddie47d

      Mikey, I thought your first paragraph was about Dick Cheney and his gang of thugs. Now that was phony patriotism! It’s too bad Obama has to run around and apologize for all the damage that the Bush/Cheney’s inflicted on us.I believe it was also the Wall Street gang and alot of other corporations that brought disgrace to America. Obama has had to shovel to much crap up from that era. I personally don’t like the growing deficit so Obama has some crap on his shoes too,but your ugly distorted accusations (commie) is wearing pretty thin.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        MikeB,
        Watch it, dude edduh is about to strike you with his purse!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa!

        • Mick for thought

          Really got you stirred up acting like you didn’t I.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry, dude, but it takes more then your childish remarks to phase me. For God and country!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        eddie47d… Obama’s only real job before becoming president was to be a community organizer. Of course this involves a lot of a$$ kissing, which he is an expert at. That is the only credit he has to his name!

  • DAVE SODEN

    I MIGHT ONLY REMIND EVERYONE OF AN OLD SAYING.”OLD MEN START WARS AND YOUNG MEN DIE”!!!!

  • Rob Alexander

    Seems Obama is saying “there’s only room for one evil dictator in this world…”

    • Norm

      Rob Alexander
      Yes but he has been out of office for more than a year.

      • http://naver samurai

        Now we all know that Obama bin Laden is the worst president ever. Why do you keep attacking a president that gave us tax cuts, the Contract with America, dealt with 9/11 and terrorists that Clinton wasn’t good enough to take out, and turned Clinton’s messing up the economy into a thriving economy? I guess you sheeple can’t handle the truth.

  • http://yahoo CHRIS T

    MIKE B YOUR ARE 100% RIGHT KNOTHING ELSE TO SAY END OF COMMENTS REMEMBER DEMOCRATS WERE IN CHARGE LAST 2 YEARS OF BUSH

  • http://google mike b.

    Rasmussen reoprts: As of June 2, Pres. Hussein Obama approval rating 44 % among registerd voters. Thanks Chris T. wherever you are, God Bless You and thanks for helping put an end to this debate!!

  • Allen

    Democrat, Republican… Liberal, Conservative… I listen to these “conversations” on these pages and see two children fighting for a little more superiority over others through word and mind games. ( my dad can whip your dad). This kind of dribble does no more than to keep the flames of distrust and hatred burning between each of us. (government loves it) What needs be done is for us to get off this computer and stop trying to fight a war than no one can win. (the war of words). Let’s read up on our Constitution and Bill of Rights and send the message to our politicians (conservative and liberal)and tell them to get out in Novemeber. Stop voting party and start voting for individuals that we TRULY believe will do as We the People want and need be done, not what our respective parties want done. Stop trying to “one-up” each other. Get back to the “why” of this countries founding. The president (past and present) can only be blamed for so much. The Congress has the real power and that power was given to them by the people through the vote.
    This a Representative Republic. If we fail to look at the true story behind who we vote for and vote them in because they have a “D” or “R” behind their names, then we deserve what we get. Wake up America and vote for the values that you want to live by.
    Remember that every “right” that we give up for , security, health or whatever, diminishes our freedoms. Don’t just talk. Educate ourselves without “bias”, then VOTE.

    • Meteorlady

      Nicely said – I for one have been to three different “meet and greet” the candidates. Those are great forums and these people are easily accessible to ask questions and assess their answers. We pounded our people running for Representative in our district and I think we found one that fits the bill – or will at least represent us in our views. It was helpful and it wasn’t at all hard to get involved.

      I vote for the BEST candidate – the one that will support limited federal government and more state rights.

    • eddie47d

      Good post,but things will only get uglier on this blog.

      • http://naver samurai

        Because of unpatriotic fools like you being on it!

        • Mick for thought

          And drunk fecal cephalics like you.

          • http://naver samurai

            Ah,yes. The perfect example of the Osama Zombie. If you’re going to sound like a kid, I’ll treat you like one.

        • Mick for thought

          Samurai. Really got you stirred up acting like you didn’t I.

        • Mick for thought

          You didn’t notice my comments only degraded as yours did? Funny you do not recognize a mirror when you see one.

        • eddie47d

          Sam.., Isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe your the “kid”.

  • Another Voice

    And the war against Iraq wasn’t a phony war, too??? Gimme a break! You guys are jokes.

    • JC

      Thank you for the authoritative and comprehensive commentary.
      I think the whole point here is that we all know these wars are corporate and political manouvres.
      But you have the right to rant along with the Liberals.

  • mtcajun

    every body is pointing fingers towards each other, the right and left wingers. An eagle needs two good wings to fly. PLEASE AND I BEG everyone to stop this and start seeing the big picture. People need to pull together and put all that energy together and fight the big money people that are out of sight and controlling OWER GOVERNING people. Don’t forget that money is the root of all evil and will control anyone. We need to cut the wings off the buzzards and heel the ones on our eagle, Both right and left. PLEASE consider these thoughts, I want my eagle to fly with his head up high THANKS MARKT

  • Eli Jones

    “THE OBAMASPILL”

    When “The Obamaspill” first occurred, Obama should have utilized every means possible to stop the massive oil ecological disaster. Obama was very busy at that time planning how to shove his next piece of Marxist Change down our throats so he was super slow in his response! Precious time was lost while Obama slouched! In the year of our lord “1993″, the Saudi’s used super tankers to clean up their massive 1993 Persian gulf oil spill with great results. The tankers sucked up the Saudi oil while it was still out at sea and removed it. Now The Gulf Of Mexico oil is destroying our beaches and marshes. Obama could have stopped it before it got to the shoreline by mobilizing those super tankers. As I said the Saudi’s did it 17 years ago! “The Obamaspill” is the worst oil spill the USA has ever had! It is sad for the Gulf Of Mexico, Planet Earth, & us that Obama was so indecisive on this catastrophe of Biblical proportions! ………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    ………………………………………………………………………………………..
    THE SAUDI PERSIAN GULF OIL SPILL:

    (May 14) — Even as proposals pour in for cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, one veteran of a massive (and secret) crude spill in the Persian Gulf says he has a tried-and-true solution.

    Now if only the people who could make it happen would return his calls.

    “No one’s listening,” says Nick Pozzi, who was an engineer with Saudi Aramco in the Middle East when he says an accident there in 1993 generated a spill far larger than anything the United States has ever seen.

    Eric Gay, AP
    A shrimp boat collects oil with booms in the waters of Chandeleur Sound, La., on May 5. An engineer who witnessed a crude spill in the Persian Gulf in 1993 says BP should use a fleet of empty supertankers to suck crude off the water’s surface.

    According to Pozzi, that mishap, kept under wraps for close to two decades and first reported by Esquire, dumped nearly 800 million gallons of oil into the Persian Gulf, which would make it more than 70 times the size of the Exxon Valdez spill.

    But remarkably, by employing a fleet of empty supertankers to suck crude off the water’s surface, Pozzi’s team was not only able to clean up the spill, but also salvage 85 percent of the oil, he says.

    “We took null out of the water so it would save the environment off the Arabian Gulf, and then we put it into tanks until we could figure out how to clean it,” he told AOL News.

    While BP, the oil giant at the center of the oil spill, works to stanch the leak from the sunken Deepwater Horizon rig, Pozzi insists the company should be following his lead.

    FOR MORE ON THE SAUDI OIL SPILL GO TO THIS SITE BELOW:

    http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/could-cleanup-fix-for-gulf-oil-spill-lie-in-secret-saudi-disaster/19476863

    • Marc

      One problem would be that most of the oil is moving below the surface of the Gulf….

  • CurtisS

    Hahaha… you guys make me laugh! The left blames Bush… the right blames Obama. Its all about your personal egos. You think that because YOU think one way that YOU must be correct and the other side, by default, must wrong. There is no objectivity… there’s no fairness… there’s no honesty in your debate. Just a bunch of yelling and finger pointing.
    You want change? Vote out the incumbents! If the the politician’s sign says “re-elect…” vote for the other candidate. That will send a huge message to the career politicians. Can you imagine what Washington would look like with 400+ first-term representatives and 33 new Senators? Can you imagine how the other Senators and the President will react?
    That should be your plan… send a message to the capitol. Whether you’re a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian or Tea Party supporter… if your current rep is a Democrat vote Republican,if he or she is a Republican, vote Democrat. Stop the petty bickering and stage a revolution at the ballot box in November.

    • Meteorlady

      As a former member of the Dem and then Repub, I can tell you that to even get the party nod you have to have jumped through some hoops and made some promises to the elites supporters of the party. So if my representatie is a dem and I vote repub I would be voting for the same two party system that is already corrupted, has manipulated elections through redistricting, biased caucuses, primaries where you have to declare one of the two main parties, and any other scheme they can come up with.

      Might I suggest going to the meet the candidates in local forums that are in your area and meet EVERY SINGLE PERSON running for that office then make an informed decision. I know that takes time, and I know that you work, and I also know that you care, but if you don’t care enough to do this then you really don’t care and shouldn’t complain.

  • Joe

    He does also mention Sadam Husien and Iraq — we have to get off of the left -vs- right, Dems -vs- Repubs. There’s deceptive games in both parties!! Do we even have Real Conservatives in the GOP left?? Maybe Ron Paul,Rand Paul, Barbara Bach, Palin, Rubio & Chris Cristi. Any others? Doubtfully! There’s a real drought there! Scott Brown gets elected and votes in on a “Jobs Bill”?? Are you kidding me? Many fakers! Who’s Real? Dems are talking like real conservatives just to get elected!! BS!!! McCain talking tough on Illegal Immigration in Arizona (election time!) Where was he 8 yrs ago, 5 yrs ago, 3 yrs ago!??? It’s all showbiz just to get elected!! On both parties!!

    • Meteorlady

      Research their voting records, follow the money and listen carefully in face to face meetings if you can. In Obama’s case we should have been fore-warned because there was nothing to check and all his speeches promised everything to everyone. Someone who hides their past is questionable. In Bush’s case we knew he was a middle of the road type guy and we had a record of his governorship in Texas to check – strong on energy but a poor businessman. Same with Clinton – had we really believed all the reports while he was running for President I think he would not have been elected as his record in Arkansas was of corruption and a womanizer.

      This is not to make any of the above better or worse, but we did elect a pig in a poke for President and we have been rather stupid in re-electing congressional leaders that are feathering their own beds at our expense.

      The fact is that we have evolved into a nation of accepting mediocrity in our elected officials. We tend to not want to believe that the people we voted for could possibly be wrong or corrupt. We tend to get defensive in our beliefs – hence left vs. right.

      The main thing is, we are tired of it all and are getting organized enough to maybe stop the insanity the in November through more informed and careful choices. We should even look closely at third party candidates. We can recover from Obama’s Presidency, but we can’t recover from uninformed people voting.

      • Allan

        I thought it was pretty obvious what Obama was before the election. Big ego. Big Marxist. Big inexperience. Honestly, NOTHING he’s done has surprised me. I also think he will cause his own undoing by just being himself.

  • John Dunlap

    I have been expecting that Obama would involve us in WWIII soon. I have a political cartoon from the 30′s, depicting and decrying most of the same economic issues we are facing now, which implies that many of FDR’s cabinet members were communists (which is actually true). The only thing which saved Roosevelt from a lynch mob was the attack on Pearl Harbor, and the red flag there was that our carriers were moved out to sea just a few days before the attack.

    This game has been run on us again and again. As Sun Tzu pointed out, wars are not begun with soldiers, they are finished by them. Wars are begun by diplomats and statesmen, who in Sun Tzu’s day were also the bankers. They steal our wealth and our freedom for fifty years or so, then maneuver us into a major war to distract us and clear all the debt their graft created, before it can completely collapse the system.

    Information technology has changed the game this time, in that a much larger number of people have been able to connect the dots. The question is, will that be enough to end the game?

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    hey john I was not the only one who knows what happened in pearl harbor. polliticians lie cheat and decieve to get what they want and they do not care about who or what is destroyed or lost as long as they get what they want. obama is no different except he wants to be our dictator. we are in for a rough ride.

    hey

    • JeffH

      Robert Pgh and John Dunlap…I hear you guys loud and clear…is Obama becoming a warmonger? While the world’s elitists control the money(imf and EU, Fed Res.) and the countries they support, another “conflict of war” may be just what is needed to finish the US economy off and finish the reign of the last world superpower. China has got to be smiling as well as N Korea along with Iran.
      How far can you stretch a penny before it breaks?

      • eddie47d

        You sure are hoping aren’t you Jeff. “Fairy tales do come true it can happen to you” in allyour wishful thinking of Obama going to war. Then again if you poke a pig long enough you’ll get it to squel.

        • JeffH

          fast eddie, you’ve been squealing for quite some time now, and as usual making the typical liberals misguided assumptions that seem to be the norm with you “socialist” anti-imperialist and anti-capitalists. You’ve gotten pretty good at the name callig too.
          Fairy tails? Naw, I’m a realist and it is very evident that what’s transpiring around the world is just a little too much for you to comprehend. As far as trusting Obama, be my guest and feel free to fail right by his side with all of your lust and trust.
          While I’d bet you are condemming Israel as we speek and have recieved your marching orders from the SEIU about another violent protest against the ‘American murderers” in Iraq and Afghanistan. You showed all of us your true colors when you waved your “red flag” during the “What would you have said” thread stateing that the military servicemen were, and I quote, ” You can stand behind your American killers and spoilers all you want.”. To pathfinder you said about American soldiers,” You glorify your mass murderers just like there are people in Rwanda who felt justified in killing the Tutsis’”.

          You’ve claimed to be a veteran yet you throw your fellow veterans under the bus and depict them as murderers, then try to justify the murderous actions on someone like Che Guerva, a vile and murderous revolutionary who loved the smell of blood and gunpowder, as long as it wasn’t his.

          You’re words parrot the words that are spoken in many languages around the world provoking violence, spreading propaganda and walking through life without a vision of total freedom.

          • eddie47d

            Jeff H.; Lt CALLEY was a mass murderer and a disgusting American. Too bad YOU have to show YOUR true colors and throw patriotic Americans under the bus and endorse his dastardly deeds. That man brought shame to America and your still riding his band wagon. Your good at spreading YOUR vile twisted propaganda. Evil is evil and you have joined their ranks.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie47d, now now…Lt. Calley? Haven’t ever supported a Lt. Calley and sure as heck haven’t used your dastardly method of classifying out military veterans as murderers like you have. I suggest you pull your boot out of your mouth before I post your full comments and their locations for all to see how you’ve dishonored the US military and the US veterans.
            No matter how you portray yourself, you cannot “delete” your comments,. It’s to late to be saved by the bell.

  • bill c

    What we need is a new amendment to the CONSTITUTION that says, in effect:

    any president who send more than 100 U.S. troopers to anywhere in the world, automatically resigns his position, as well as that of EVERY member of Congress, effective 60 days after the action. Give us 60 days to rig special elections, and start over. If we have to do this every 60 days until we get sane government, so be it.

    • JC

      bill, I think the Constitution is fine the way it is,
      Congress must “declare war” before US troops go anywhere.
      As opposed to taking our orders from the UN or anyone else.

      • Claire

        JC–I agree with what you say.

      • Mick for thought

        Agreed. But they need time to check facts before they declare it.

      • Marc

        We have a lot of troops in combat now…….and when was the last time Congress “declared war” ? Don’t remember them doing it while I was in Vietnam…..

    • Marc

      I like that…….the part about “rig” special elections….what’s wrong with the old “hanging chad” method ? Worked great in Florida some years back…..

  • FreedomFighter

    In referance to North Korea:

    They are a good reason for using nukes… send in 10 or 15 nukes let the dust settle and give the land to the South Koreans.

    FF

  • Bertha McDaniel

    I read all those comments and shake my head in disbelief.

    America is in deep trouble. So much racism and hatred in this

    country. I bet 95% of the people that sent in those emails have never
    been in any branch of service for our country.

    • chuck b

      i would say you are on the wrong site. most of the people posting here have served. find one of the liberal blog’s, you will find most of them haven’t, just like your hero barry, he wouldn’t know which end of the rifle a round comes out and thr same applies to his lack pof patriotism.
      have you served??? let me guess, NO!!

    • Meteorlady

      Not sure what your point was but there is no racism here. Most just hate the ideals of the current government. They are not what this country was founded on and they are not what most dedicated working Americans want for their country. I did not sign on to back door deals, rushed bills that no one gets to read and assess, czars that aren’t elected, and all the rest of the Chicago style politics.

      If Obama were as white a new snow I would still hate his stance and feel as if I was being “ruled” by an intruder that has no real idea of what constitutes the heart and sole of all real Americans.

      I have a lot of friends that are Black, Chinese, Japanese, and Latino and none voted for Obama because his views are not theirs. None of them call themselves anything but Americans. It’s just that simple.

      Throwing the race card at us is old hat and only furthers the division between the American people. It is used to quiet dissent by making us feel guilty – but it’s not working anymore as we all see through that and refuse to accept or give credence to those type of remarks and name calling.

      • Meteorlady

        Forgot to mention that my grandfather was in WWI, my father was WWII and three brothers served in Vietnam. They are all conservatives and very American.

  • FCOL

    All I see here are posts with “moron”, “idiot”, etc…..yeah, that’ll get things right…..

    • Allan

      That occurs becuase certain individuals keep saying the same dumb thing over and over. It gets old.

  • Chaos Factor

    Dee… And anybody that voted for McCain or Palin only makes it to idiot on their best day….McCains senile and Palin is just flatout stupid….which is problably why she appeals to the rightwing….ever wonder why you don’t hear any policy outta rightwingers?..it’s because their policy is the dame policy that got us on this mess in the first place…. Had the republicans just been halfway desent President Obama problably wouldn’t have been elected ( still a lot of racist in America).. But the republicans were terrible and that’s why obama was elected…you can blame yourselves for his election … I think he was the right guy… His biggest fault is trying to include republicans who just won’t help….Obama will most likely be elected to a 2nd term.. Especially if the economy keeps improving … Which I’m sure none of you rightwing radicals want…. At least you’ve been exposed as the racist and anti American vermin you are….please form that new country for rightwing conservatives… You could call it Jesusland…. You could pray anytime and start burning books and witches again…

    • Meteorlady

      Racism is exactly what got Obama elected. The racism of the Black population. New one for you huh?
      Why does Palin scare you so bad? All you people keep harping on her. I won’t even vote for her so what’s the problem? Did you watch the health care summit? If not let me refresh your memory…..

      Equal time was to be given for debate: Republicans commented, Obama argued the point and then turned it over to the Democrats to argue the point. I always though a leaders job was to gain consensus not separate the parties further. During that summit I heard real budget estimates by the GAO and I heard the dems and Obama say that was wrong without any facts. I heard some Republican ideas like co-ops that were not government controlled but non-profict and that was shot down. So give me something concrete Chaos?

      Again Using such derogatory terms to try and show your superiority is getting tedious. It demeans you and shows your lack of class, as well as your lack of ability to provide rational and factual statements.

      • Meteorlady

        Sorry- was in a hurry

        non-profit

      • eddie47d

        Kind of like all of i41′s comments nothing but derogatory.Where does he get the idea I’m an Indian? See what I mean? They both talk like a train that is short of an engine!

        • http://naver samurai

          I don’t know about being an Indian, but you are a coward and traito who supports his sheappards every whim.

    • Dave

      The right wing did not get us in the mess we’re in. Your liberal congress did! The fair housing act started it which was run by a bunch of idiots. Barny Fwank was the ring leader. The housing crisis got us into this mess, not the republicians. CF you need to check your facts once in a while and stop watching CNN.

  • http://bigal.com Big Al

    This is ridiculous for even this site.
    A second Korean war would lead to billions of business losses, a nuclear scarred landscape in North and South Korea, plus WE DON’T HAVE THE TROOPS TO FIGHT WITH.
    The article has no evidence, or even much conjecture, and it compeletely pointless

  • http://gmail i41

    I think am lib and edyee47 are the same welfare bird brained, blanket butt, am lib will not tell us, if he has ever worked or has a job, 47 will not either, but claims he is a indian, both loves and think everyone, needs government health care, both think everyone should get money to not work, and sit on the asses. edyee says he know wher North Dakota is, so now we know he can read a map. If the simple minded socialist democrats, would allow drillin for oil in the USA, and not suck up all the BS agencies “facts” on gobal warming and the “running out of oil” fecal facts. China and the open crude markets, would be paying USA money and we wouldn’t have any debt. The “fat puppy snackers” should get the hell off, of save the planet and use very little or no geological energy s–t. Who do they think pays the freight on their leeching ways. I know their “heritage” was a socialist, quazi form of goverance. The world governments spend close to 97% of their GPD. USA spends close to 78% of GPD on our debt. The world spending includes social programs, USA now is projected to spend over 268 % of GPD, when all of our social programs are added. If USA is going to survive, we need to cut socpal programs completely for a able bodied adults, if you go to college, pay your own damn way, not the taxpayers, get rid of all reservations, if they want to be a soveriegn nation, indians want their nation, then they can not vote in the state of federal elections. If they think they a netion, then just like illegals, aren’t supposed to vote. If the indians want to be part of the USA, then they must abide under the state’s rule where they are located, if they want their socialist styled reservations, take their land units devide it and put it in each tribal members name, then they pay state taxes, cut the welfare and all freebies and get a life. Nobody is alive or even 2 generations ago when indians got the rezs, are around. Illegals all over in the USA and the world are giving the citizens of the USA a screwing. Same attitude goes out to the socialist UN, a waste of American tax money, No jobs on the rez, why, theu don’t have to follow or have to abide by the states laws or rules.

  • Isaac Unglaub

    Why didn’t the author include F.D.R. and Pearl Harbor in his comparison? USA did cut of the oil supply to Japan as a provocation, then setting up Pearl Harbor as a trap. Since he was elected (among other) on the promise not to enter the war, Pearl Harbor convinced the otherwise peaceful Americans to go to war. Talk about manipulating the general population. So be aware …! “The fish always starts to ‘smell’ from head” (leadership)!

  • http://gmail i41

    There is more going on over in Korea than is known, the state run media will not put out the facts, or in this case even know about it. I hope cf, a lib, and e47 will get some new Sarah Palin posters for them and all their socialist democrat friends, since they keep chewing and crushing them, trying to dance and hug them.. They all just have such a fansination over a smart, great looking, confident conservative woman. They can only wish they could find a girl friend or a wife like her. They are such mama’s girly boys, with low esteme, They probably will compain and vote for her, with out telling anyone. I bet they did the same thing, when in school with cheerleaders and homecoming canidates. Say nasty things about them, but really had a crush on them!

  • chuck b

    141

    maybe they don’t like girls, could that be the reason they have so much hate for palin. the other reason, they know barry doesn’t stand a chance against her and some democrats led by carville are trying to un-seat barry before the 2012 election so they can run “killary” “a little vince foster pun.”
    irregardless, palin will defear anyone the demo’nistas run against her and i doubt if barry tries for another term, even the demo’s are seeing thru him. the cloak is off, barry has and is being exposed.

    hopefully, this man will not cause ww3 by his inability to stand firm
    and protect our nation. the muslim countries see him as one of their own. the chinese do not respect him, no. korea and iran have no fear of him. he refuses to back the state of israel when they confront the palestinian terrorist. barry is a failure. even worse than jimmy carter.

  • BenDover

    I’m tired of you stupid, moronic conservatives. Palin is a moron, Bush is a moron and Cheney is just plain evil,.

    • JeffH

      Really?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bend over,
      If they are morons, then you must be a whole lot dumber than a moron!!!!

    • http://naver samurai

      Bring in some proof! Cheney, baaaaa! Bush, baaaaa! Where’s our sheapherd Obama bin Laden, baaaaa!

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogger.com Stephen Russell

    All we need now is another D** war with Korea & see the living Korean War vets rise up.
    & I cant see Obama running this war, Id be stunned If he acted like LBJ.
    but then NKorea has those nukes.
    See the Bond movie Die Another Day for Korean war issue then.
    On DVD-,007Bond

  • JeffH

    Even Fidel Castro sees Obama as nothing more than a pawn…get outta here!

    Fidel Castro Claims Obama Lives In Fantasy World
    Fidel Castro Warns Of Possible US Attack On North Korea; Says Obama Lives In Fantasy World
    (AP) HAVANA (AP) – Fidel Castro speculated Wednesday that a nuclear strike on Iran might help President Barack Obama win a second term in the White House and also suggested the United States could attack North Korea.

    The former leader of Cuba, who has not been seen in public for nearly four years, also portrayed the U.S. president as a victim of fantasies planted in his mind by sinister advisers.

    The column published by Cuban state media floated the idea that a nuclear attack on Iran – perhaps even without U.S. authorization – might help Obama win re-election in 2012.

    Castro often has praised Obama in recent years, but painted him as a pawn of the global capitalist machine on Wednesday.

    “President Obama can give hundreds of speeches, trying to reconcile contradictions that are irreconcilable … dreaming of the magic of his well-articulated phrases,” he wrote.

    But Castro said Obama “makes concessions to personalities and groups totally lacking in ethics and draws fantasy worlds that only fit in his head and that unscrupulous advisers, knowing his tendencies, plant in his mind.”

    • JeffH

      Does that mean Castro is a cobservative rightwing nut? No, it means that Castro isn’t one of Obamas liberal pawns like many on this site, whos names I won’t repeat.

      • JeffH

        …conservative…

      • http://naver samurai

        Ah, go ahead! We already know, but its good to expose the enemies of our nation.

      • JC

        Obama is a pawn and an imposter.
        And we need to stop creating enemies for a while.

    • Allan

      Castro was a charismatic fool, and not the only one.

  • Bogiewheel

    Geez……..The blame game seems to be in high gear. However, if you want to keep score about whose War it is……..STOP. The high score has always been the Democratic Party. You liberals can scream and get your shorts in a twist…..You can’t lie your way out of recorded history. I’m a vet from the “Korean Conflict”,……Ugh…..Korean, “Police Action”, Ugh…. and any number of other discriptions……..but never War. If there ever was a “War” this “Small Conflict”, was it. We all, to soon, forget these “Engagements”. This “Forgotten War”, was nasty…..look at the record:
    I’ve never met a survivor of this conflict that liked War.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    roosevelt needed a war to get us of a depression and germany and japan were fighting most of europe and asia. japan needed oil and we had oil and we would not sell it to them. and dutch indonesia had oil but roosevelt presured indonesia not to sell them any more oil. there is much more but you blind people do not want to hear the truth because it destroys your left socialist religion of communism. so we have another thing for you to think about. I hope it does not over tax your graymatter and cause a short circut.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    should be out of a depression

  • ONTIME

    It is geting even more dicey out there in the third world wwhat with the N. Koreans and now the nutty terrorist activist confronting the Israelies, it is scary bcause we are without a real president or even a real leader among the bunch who could succeed this UN-Cedentialed if he has to resign, none of the remainder are fit to lead either.

    These problems are going to get worse and the jackals are attacking the flanks in order to bring down the lion, we have a man whose decision making ability is severely impaired by his inexperience, ineptness and his dislike for this country…I wonder why he wanted the job to begin with? I know how he got it.

  • Bogiewheel

    Is not the discussion about North Korea ?

    My problem with the Obama “Team” is their lack of statesmanship in remarks from the White House that sends conflicting signals to our adversaries.

    The Korean War, 1950, came about when our State Department declared that the Korean peninsula was no longer a sphere of interest for the United States……….Just what the Russians wanted to hear.

  • Robert

    Now lets see. North Korea has nukes and a delivery system that may or may not be capable of reaching the US Mainland. Hawaii is definitely within their range. So, if N Korea were to retaliate with their few nukes, number one, aren’t we suppose to have an anti missle defense system that cost us upteen billions of dollars? and two, does this President have the guts to respond in kind and wipe that country off the face of the Map if they did attack us. As far as South Korea is concerned, let Japan and the rest of the Asian countries deal with North Korea. Bring our troops stationed in Korea home so they can be deployed to our borders and take back our country from the illegal immigrants who sneaked accross our border. And if Mexico and the rest of the countries that have their nationals illegally in our country wont take them back. Put them all in row boats and give them paddles.

  • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

    I can;t seem to reply directly to Claires comment at 6AM Jun 3 but point 1.
    1. Deport ALL illegals, and leave no stone unturned until they are all gone.

    OK.. let;s make it retroactive a couple hundred years just to make sure all the interlopers are gone.

    7. Clean up the Welfare System–if people are shirking their job duties, fire them, this includes the head honchos. Get the lazy people off welfare. No more freebies. This is hard-nose and blunt, but consider having tubes tied and vasectomies. Heck, the government did this to the Native American Women back in the 50s and through the early 70s.

    I actually think they should tie the tubes if every one with an IQ of under 130. That would take care of a lot of problems.

    All kidding aside, many of the points you make are excellent and when the government and corporations are accountable to the people I think things like welfare and illegals will be a non issue.

    • Claire

      Duende–I agree with you on your comments too. But the big problem is to get them to be accountable. This will be a otugh task, but I think it can be done. By the will of all Americans.

      • Claire

        Good grief “otugh” should be “tough” — sorry.

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        To make “them” accountable we must first know who “they” are. “They control our government(s) They control our Corporations. I believe their primary means of such great control is that “they” control the banks and are trying to create an international economy that is answerable to no sovereign nation (which is almost complete). They control ALL main stream media with no exceptions, so we only get to hear what “they” want us to hear. With few exceptions… they want us scared and at each others throats.. arguing over health care, abortion, gun control, religion and a myriad of other distractions. Distractions that keep us from having the conversations we need.

        • Claire

          We must know who they are—that is easy–the ones you mentioned in your post.

    • JeffH

      Duende, I have to agree also and accountability to the people must happen or Washington may never regain the trust of the people.

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        Hi Jeff. I’d say to you what I just replied to Claire with. It’s hard to keep your eye on the ball sometimes.

        • JeffH

          Would Rothschilds and Rockerfellers be a good start? IMF, EU, Federal Reserve?

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            I think that would be an excellent start. Now that’s where we need to keep looking. Not at each other.. regardless of our attachment to our favorite wound.

  • theconservative1

    Anything that this administration can use to draw attention away for their devious plans to sell out the US sovereignty, Just another diversionary tactic Mr.President, but we already have your number!

    • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

      But do you have the number of the previous administration to get us to give up our rights and make us far more vulnerable for the big brother take over? Never mind allowing the manuvuers for the banks to drain our economy (they set it up.. Obama took over and pulled the trigger). ?

  • Edward from Ohio

    it’s true that Bush is less than inteligent, but he didn’t scare me. Obama scares me. Obama is a narcicist. Obama has lost alot of support lately, and as a narcicist, (if you don’t know what that means, look it up), I believe that if he feels that he is losing his grip on the strings of power that he might just be capable of using Weapons of Mass Destruction against the people of this country. Weapons which he said he won’t use against our enemies. How’s that for a scary thought.

  • http://robertkershner@att.net Obert

    if you would have really checked him out you would not have voted for him unless you were an idiot. and i think a lot of you are blank sheets.

  • http://BraceforAnotherPhonyWar Tom

    Here’s a thought, though not a new one. What would happen if the people of this Republic started demanding that those in the White House, the House and the Senate must spend two months in the field and at the “head” of our military on the ground and facing our enemies when they declare that our troops must go in harms way without Americans on American soil actually having been attacked? Further, the time leading (in the front lines of combat) should be trippled if the conflict conveniently comes at a time of “bad press for the party in control, public outcries due to economic or political distress, or before, during or immediately after a major election where the crisis might be used to best political advantage. Finally, the children and other relatives of the political leaders right on up to and including the president should not be excluded from mandatory military service (especially at such times). If the spouses and children of U.S. Citizens must face combat and be maimed or die for our Republic, then the same should be insisted upon for the spouses and children of the politicians all the way to the White House. (Equal Rights and Responsibilities Under the Law!)

  • gary

    We should not be arguing over Democrat or Republican.THe Republicans might be somewhat better for the country, but in reality neither is worth a damn. We should be pulling together to work on a regime change for the USA. WE need to get rid of both parties and start over with a government as our constitution lays out for us. NOTHING has or ever will change with the existing parties. Same shit different day. Our constitution gives us the right to do just exactly what I’am talking about. Read it!

  • gary

    WHat scares me the most is that I don’t think the majority of you want anything but what we have. You are afraid of change and afraid to oust the government we have. It is easier to do nothing except complain that it is to really get busy trying to accomplish something. It would be less painful and better to get shot trying to save America than to do nothing and watch as it all goes down the drain. A lot of lives have been lost in the fight for feedom. That would be an even more tragic loss if we lose it all, because of complacency.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    just think what would happen if all of us decided to just quit working and said no more. yes it would be hard at first but we could trade with one another and quit enableing the government to screw us. where would the government get money to prop up their house of cards. would government send troops to force us to work? there are more of us them. they would have to have twice as many troops as population and that my friend is impossible because over half of the troops would be related to the people the would be instructed force to work. and I know that they would refuse to do that for 2 reasons. 1 the military is prohibited from forcing the regular army to do that. 2nd most would desert and join their familys to proctect them. that is a strike that would get the of our government. their only alternative would be to hire mercinaries which would not work because where would they get the money to pay them. and now they would have the american army deserters out numbering them. the politicians would be crying like babies waiting for thier bottles. that is a peacefull strike they would not be able to miss the meaning of.

  • Robert Pgh Pa

    there are more of us then them

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