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North Dakota Relaxes Gun Restrictions

August 3, 2011 by  

Employees can now bring their guns to work in North Dakota.A series of new North Dakota laws took effect on Aug. 1, including more permissible gun-rights legislation, according to The Associated Press. The new law will allow most employees to bring a gun to work as long as it is kept in their vehicle, according to the news source.

The news agency reports the legislation requires businesses that usually ban firearms on the property to now permit employees to leave guns in locked vehicles during the duration of the workday. The law excludes employees who work at schools, jails, colleges, State hospitals or companies that deal with explosives. Although business interests overwhelming opposed the measure, the law was widely approved by the North Dakota House and Senate.

The bill did not initially exclude hospital employees, according to Bloomberg Businessweek. However, lawmakers revised the law after it passed due to Jamestown State hospital, reports the media outlet. The hospital has a prison on its grounds, causing legislators to revise their decision to exclude those employees from the law, according to the news source.

The legislation was passed along with laws that prohibit texting while driving in the State and extends the distance protesters have to stay from funerals to 1,000 feet, according to the AP.

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  • Former Walmart person

    This is crazy, although a step in the right direction. Keeping a gun in your vehicle does no good if an unbalanced worker decides to go postal in the work place. For over 2 years I have owned 2 firearms. In those two years, I have murdered 0 people. In those 2 years, I have shot at 0 people. Heck, in the two years, I have only shot one of the weapons one time at a gun range like 1.5 years ago.

    Clearly, weapons in possession of me have a great safety record!

    Trust us with our gune darn it. People walked around all the time with guns back in the 1800s, and most never killed anyone.

  • Roy Gerety

    I think that the law is good. We probably have a lot more people that have guns in their transportation than we believe. The USA is getting more violent each day and we should have the right to protect ourselves at work or anyplace. Granted there are also a few abnormal people in the world that go off the deep end and kill others. But a large majority of the population that want to carry a gun are law abiding citizens.

    • 45caliber

      I used to know a guy in Atlanta who worked the graveyard shift. One night on the way to work, he was pursued by a car with 6 young men in it. They finally ran him off the road. One got out and walked up to his driver’s window, which he had rolled down.

      “Don’t you wish you had a friend with you right now?” the man asked him.

      “I do,” he said, and laid the barrel of a .45 1911 over the window.

      “I see you do!” the other said and raced back to his car. They took off and he never saw them again.

    • Dan az

      Roy
      That’s the point,If they were to be aloud to keep it either on their person or in a containment area near their work place then the threat from a wacko would be deminished.It’s not going to do any good to have the gun in a car out of reach and the threat of someone shooting back would almost effectively have the reverse effect of the law for what it was meant to do.
      You cant stop someone from going postal with the thought they will kill as many as they can before being taken out with out some form of protection.You can if there is some who would carry and limit the amount of devastation.

      • hicusdicus

        Armed citizens reduce crime and in a lot of cases it saves their life.

  • RoBoTech

    I own many firarms and have done so since I was 9 years old.
    I have had a CCW since 1976.
    Except in the Military (191-1979 1971-1972 Vietnam Veteran)I have never even had to pull my firearm in public, tho I carry 350 days a year.
    And I hope I never will. I would just as soon nobody even knew I carry.
    But, if I have to use it, I have it.
    Personally, I would just rather not spend time in Federal Prison. But the old saying “Better to be judged by 12, than carried by six” is how I roll.
    And, I am a firm believer that, when it’s all over, there’s only one story that can be told.
    Mine!

    • Al Sieber

      That’s the way I’am also, except in Arizona you don’t need a CCW permit, just assume everyone is packing.

    • hicusdicus

      Judged by 12 rather than carried by 6. That is real bad philosophy but I don’t want to get into it. Read some knowledgeable books on armed response.

  • pete the simian

    Hey ! , that’s good news ! Now you can’t get fired for having a hunting rifle in your vehicle. Also it makes a liberal employer’s demand to search your vehicle (while on the business premises) totally irrelevant !

    The Second Amendment wins again !

    • eddie47d

      Hey! It should also be the right of any employer to ban all weapons from their premise including the parking lot.There were a couple of co-workers I wouldn’t want anywhere near a weapon even a pocket knife.

      • JimH

        Maybe bosses that aren’t jerks don’t worry if the empoyee has a weapon in the car. Jerk bosses beware in ND.

        • independant thinker

          eddie is one of those who believe when you start to dial 911 the police will show up before you can complete your call so you don’t need to carry a gun.

          • hicusdicus

            Eddie is afraid and guns scare him. I bet everything scares him.

      • knights templer

        Eddie never got his a$$ beat, or his life threatened so he can be a premadonna and self righteous. Tis better to give than recieve! Whether or not my boss allows, is irrelevent.. I have the right to bare arms, and having a CHL how would he know let alone care? I provide my own security.

        • hicusdicus

          I second with a big amend.

      • DaveH

        Do you really think, Eddie, that those who would like to do you unlawful harm would care if they weapon was illegally carried?

        • eddie47d

          Dave H;The champion of capitalism and the free enterprise system wants to tell business owners how to handle weapons on their property. Apparently (since you are supporting the right for you and others to carry on private property)that the said private business doesn’t have a say in what you bring onto his/her property. Your rights trump theirs is that correct? What would you do if they told you no weapons in their establishment? Boycott??

          • DaveH

            Wow, Eddie, you are amazingly prescient. Can you tell what size of shoes I wear also from my simple comment?

          • eddie47d

            None of your comments are simple Dave and I believe you confuse even yourself. Good Night, Irene!

          • hicusdicus

            Boycott yes. I have a right and a duty to defend myself from a determined aggressor no matter where that space is with what ever means I have. Attack me and I will judge you.

        • JeffH

          Gee Dave, he’s back! Only 47d could take a simple question completely out of context and respond with pure unrelated babble…but I know you’re not the least bit surprised…

          • DaveH

            No, I’m not surprised. I am thankful that I’m not in his family though.

      • Drawer22

        @eddie47d -

        An idealist says, “If there were no weapons, there would be no weapons violence.” Those more practical know that “…a couple of co-workers [you] wouldn’t want anywhere near a weapon even a pocket knife” doesn’t mean those same co-workers WON’T carry a pocket knife. That is why those who exercise their 2d Amendment rights under the Constitution of the United States of America should be able to exercise their right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” even when attacked by addressing threats to their own lives by counter-employment of deadly force. Heck, eddie47d, I’d even go so far as to insure YOUR safety, so that you could exercise your right to make uninformed and unintelligent statements, as affirmed in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

        Oh, that’s right! I already did my part in uniform! But I’ll continue to do my part for you and others like you, for I was never relieved of my oath in support of OUR Constitution.

        No employer has the right (as you affirm) to tell me that I must hazard my own safety and the safety of others merely for the dubious privilege of working for them. Xinh loi, Charlie!

        Đại Úy Paul

        • eddie47d

          I have said I support the 2nd Amendment but not to the extremes that some of you do. A person who wants to kill someone within a business will do his damage long before someone else reacts to what he is doing. So you can over react all you want.

          • independant thinker

            “I have said i supported the 2nd amendment……”

            Empty words eddie empty words. I do not recall a single time you have opposed a more restrictive gun law or supported a less restrictive one.

          • hicusdicus

            Not if I am there. I have been shot by armed robbers and I never leave the house without my Judge.

      • hicusdicus

        Nobody is going to tell me when or where I can defend myself against a determined aggressor and I mean nobody.

  • Lost in Paradise

    Actually I would feel much safer if I knew others were packing heat. I see nothing at all wrong with it, because 99.9% of the people have a brain and use it,and not a gun unless totally necessary. I think if a person feels more secure with a gun on their person then they should be able to carry, without a permit. Everyone is making too much of nothing.

    The results of that nut case in Norway, will undoubtedly cause us some greif in relation to guns, because he supposedly bought guns and ammo in the U.S. I do not understand how he was able to get them out of the country.

    • DaveH

      The ATF probably supplied him.

      • JeffH

        :) …beat me to it!

      • hicusdicus

        A big thumbs up to DaveH.

  • Michael

    Come Down to Arizona, we don’t even need a coceil weapons permit to carry a gun into a store, bank, shopping ect, and we have less crime because of it. The bad guys don’t know who is or is not carrying a gun,I refer to it as check and balance system

    • Ronald A.

      I like that kind of checks & balance system. In GA a CCW permit is required and I have one but the 2nd amendment says we have the RIGHT to bear arms and that right “shall not be infringed”. The permit system is an infringement. We are working on eliminating that infringement and let the check & balance system work on its own.

  • 45caliber

    If you wish to stop most violent crime, simply make it manditory that all adults carry. Only an idiot would pull a gun when he knows everyone else has one too.

    • Dan az

      45
      That reminds me of something I saw,some guy comes into a doughnut shop and points a gun at the cashier and demands all the money and at the same time you see and hear everyone in the place cock their guns and are pointed at the guy as he notices that they are all police on and off duty!The proof is in the pudding. :)

  • Raggs

    Have gun will travel… Go 2nd admendment!

  • Larry Pierson

    A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, or should I saw a gun in the hand is worth two in the glove box.

    Any law, rule, or regulation that creates a “Criminal Safety Zone” (any place where law abiding citizens cannot legally be armed but criminals can carry weapons into unimpeded) is counterproductive. Criminals love to be safe from return fire. It allows them to massacre dozens of victims quickly and safely.

    Study after study shows that the only effective deterrent to a murderous thug is an armed citizenry. Besides, what goes does another gun law do, since the very definition of a criminal is someone who doesn’t obey the law?

  • TIME

    A short story,

    Years ago a friend who worked as a laywer in the DA office who had just finished school so he had to work late and really long hours.

    One night after his boss the DA had put away three young men who were robbing, raping, and assaulting people in his district.
    My friend finished up work at 10:45 PM he was walking out to his car in the Parking lot. As he got near his car a man shouted out to him, and being that he was a good person he turned to respond, only to see that there were 8 men standing around him at this point with clubs and such.

    They beat him half to death he lost many of his teeth had so many broken ribs it was crazy he survived, he also had a broken arm on the right side, his left arm was broken in two places, his legs were both broken his righ knee was so baddly dammaged he couldn’t walk with out a cane after he healed.

    About 12 months after his attack he was healed up enough to go back to work, keep in mind he had to relearn walking. He also went to get a CCP he was trained to use his gun by the local police and he was damm good at it.

    Around that point in time the Police showed him new pictures of local thugs who fit the profile they had just picked up. He was able to picked out two of the men in the pictures as being in the group that beat him. There were picked up and one of them was still wearing my friends Rolex watch given to him by his dad after he finished law school.

    The other had his monogramed wallet with his ID’s at his home as well as his breif case that they stole. Both men were aressted.

    But, saddly as my friend was walking out to his car about two weeks after these two were arrested the gang that had beaten him up came back minus the two who were now in jail.
    My friend dropped his case and grabbed his Colt 45 and shot three of these thugs dead on the spot, wounded two others the others got away.

    My firend was promptly arrested and charged with Murder, and Assault.

    His boss the DA dropped the charges but the dammage had been done.
    My friend after a few weeks he went mad, he still is in a home for the mentaly broken that was in 1975 and today 2011 he is still in his little room a sick and broken person in fear of everything.
    A very sad ending of a Fine person who was just starting his life.

    Be very careful, pray that your police dept is not totaly in bed with the wacked out political class.

    • Raggs

      Time… Whereabouts was this?

      I have to ask because if this had happened in a Northern state it makes it easier to understand your friends responce to a tramatic event like this… I only say that because the Northern states are lacking in outdoorsmanship and are not acustomed to such things a hunting.. Am I saying that to kill a person is an easy thing to do?…NO… but a city dweller will never know what life is other than a cubical…

  • ronald r. johnson

    If Obama gets Oprah and the Muslims and Hollywood Druggies to buy the white house again we will not have to worry about people walking around with guns because Obama, Eric Holder and Hillery will see to it that only police and criminals are allowed to carry guns and then he will finish taking America down. He will also have us start to honor all Muslim holidays and ignore All American and christian holidays and when he is done we wont have an America. Let’s vote him out!

    • hicusdicus

      When this happens I and pot load of other Americans will become criminals.

  • DaveH
  • DaveH
    • JeffH

      NRA Prtition to fire AG Eric Holder

      To: President Obama
      The United States Congress
      The National News Media

      On Attorney General Holder’s watch, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) launched Operation Fast and Furious, an illegal pipeline of thousands of arms to Mexican drug cartels.

      Two of the guns that were allowed to “walk” across our border were found at the murder scene of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent.

      Attorney General Holder’s Justice Department is now stonewalling a congressional investigation into Operation Fast and Furious.

      Attorney General Holder professed his ignorance of the operation. In light of these statements he is either incompetent or covering up crimes that were committed to advance the Obama Administration’s gun control agenda.

      Through his actions, Attorney General Holder has demonstrated that he cannot be trusted with the powers of his office, the law enforcement agencies he commands, or the lives of Federal agents.
      https://www.nra.org/fireholder/petition.aspx?mid=000160622888&ek=Y1GV249N

      • JeffH

        …petition…

  • DaveH

    The hypocrisy of our leaders:
    http://gunowners.org/op07212011ep.htm

    • JeffH

      Yepper!

  • Drawer22

    @eddie47d -

    An idealist says, “If there were no weapons, there would be no weapons violence.” Those more practical know that “…a couple of co-workers [you] wouldn’t want anywhere near a weapon even a pocket knife” doesn’t mean those same co-workers WON’T carry a pocket knife. That is why those who exercise their 2d Amendment rights under the Constitution of the United States of America should be able to exercise their right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” even when attacked by addressing threats to their own lives by counter-employment of deadly force. Heck, eddie47d, I’d even go so far as to insure YOUR safety, so that you could exercise your right to make uninformed and unintelligent statements, as affirmed in the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.

    Oh, that’s right! I already did my part in uniform! But I’ll continue to do my part for you and others like you, for I was never relieved of my oath in support of OUR Constitution.

    No employer has the right (as you affirm) to tell me that I must hazard my own safety and the safety of others merely for the dubious privilege of working for them. Xinh loi, Charlie!

    Đại Úy Paul

    • 45caliber

      I’ve always agreed with Heinlein. He advocated allowing only veterans to vote or run for public office. His reason was that they had PROVED that they were willing to put their lives on teh line in defense of their country and therefore were more likely to do what is best for the country rather than for themselves.

      I think he was right.

    • eddie47d

      Drawer likes repeating himself. Is that to reaffirm your own view since it must not have sunk in the first time?

    • hicusdicus

      When in the sordid history of man has there been no weapon violence?

  • James

    Does anyone know the location of this parking lot?

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