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No, Canada!

July 21, 2012 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Jimmy The Greek

    Nice !

    • Warrior

      Yes, Very Nice. People like bho, maher and lopez exemplify the status and character every American should emulate? How shamefully far a great portion of our society has fallen.

      • Kate8

        I was with Ben all the way to the end, until he made the symbolic NWO gesture…the triange over the eye.

        What’s up with that?

        Yikes!

      • vicki

        Likely that was a inside joke kind of gesture :)

      • The GLB

        Kate8, he does his one-eyed illuminati salute at the end of all of his episodes, but this week it seemed to have an extra flourish.

        I enquired to Ben about why he does the “one-eyed illuminati salute” several Great 8′s ago, but alas no answer, and he continues to do it.

        I am NOT sure what conclusion to draw at this point in time, but if the “one-eyed illuminati salute” continues I will need to do something to wake him, or his viewers, up.

        I get that Ben is part of the false left/right paradigm, so it is entirely possible that he is throwing the “one-eyed illuminati salute” to his masters who are part of reinforcing the false left/right paradigm to keep the ‘sheeple’ distracted from the real truth.

        Fortunately, you and several others that post on this site seem to be awake to the truth about their endgame.

      • Kate8

        Though some might be tempted to make light of this and blow it off, I think that is to discount an important point: every word and gesture recorded on video has meaning, and is there for a purpose. This is true of EVERY MOVIE, TV PERFORMANCE AND VIDEO made. Nothing is a fluke.

        Hollywood has saturated us with this symbology, and is meant to speak to the unconscious, and is a signal to those who get it, for whatever reason.

        I’m sorry, but I cannot dismiss the implication here. I, for one, would like an explanation from Ben. And I do mean the truth.

        And to ignore us on this speaks volumes, as well.

      • Elaine

        Kate8,

        I didn’t know what it meant, so I’m glad I read your comment just for that. I’d seen it a few times, but when it means nothing to you, it’s kind of overlooked. I’m a senior citizen, so I don’t keep abreast of all the innuendos that are meant by the signs.

        I had been wondering previously in the picture if there was something wrong with that eye, like a glass eye or something? It doesn’t match the right eye and doesn’t follow the same muscle patterns.

        And now that I know, it will be a point of contention that I can’t ignore again.

      • Kate8

        You will find the same sign being made by pop stars like Lady Gaga, Madonna, and the rest of them, including actors. I can’t name them because I don’t listen to them enough to know their names, but there are videos out showing this if you want to find them.

        This is really quite troubling, as PLA has our IP and email.

      • Karolyn

        Wow! You guys are really going over the top with your paranoia over symbolism! Kate, you’d better get a new ISP and change your name!

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I believe that is just Ben being Ben(comical)…nothing more. I did a few searches on Ben Crystal who ran for the 2008 Congressional seat in the 12th district of GA. He’s a former talk radio host(Ben Bennett on the air)and had posted this on his MySpace page, Ben Crystal lists his occupation as “professional a**hole earning less than $30,000 a year.”

        He’s back: former talk show host Ben Bennett, Ben Crystal, running for Congress
        http://savannahnow.com/larry-peterson/2008-04-14/hes-back-former-talk-show-host-ben-bennett-ben-crystal-running-congress

        ***Karolyn – STFU you hypocrit!***

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Thanks for the input, but I’d like to hear it from Ben.

        This is really no small matter. Everything in a video is there because it was designed to be there. You know as well as I do that internet bios can be designed, too.

        I couldn’t care less what Karolyn thinks. She’s a clueless sheep, believing everything the PTB put forth for our consumption and thought control. There is ample evidence all over the net from reliable sources stating how this works (unconventional warfare methods) but she’s too caught up in her wonderland to look beyond.

        I’m just sick of the deception from all sides. Nothing is as it seems. If someone is going to give the NWO salute, I’d like to know why. It does mean something.

      • Kate8
      • http://naver sook young

        Here is some news from Sheriff Arpaio. I like it that he is telling us the truth.

        http://www.news.yahoo.com/arpaio-obama-birth-record-definately-fraudulant-01021150.html?_esi=1

        We all know that he is not a natural born citizen, but when will he show us his original birth certificate, school records, and college transcripts? I had to show these to immigrate here, so why doesn’t he need to show them to be president? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Dave67

        More right wing birther looney tunes debunked (Sheriff Arpaio waste of tax payer money to get the stink off of him)

        I have debunked so much demonstrably false “birther evidence” that I sometimes lose perspective about levels of “bunk” and levels of “demonstrable.” Based on the reactions of others, I may have done something last year that applies to something high on the “bunk” scale today as well as high on the “demonstrable” scale amounting to what Joe Biden might call a BFD, and the smoking gun showing the Cold Case Posse fabricated evidence and lied.

        Mike Zullo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, presented their final (one hopes) investigative report yesterday (July 17). Their latest “evidence” that Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a fake is stated succinctly:

        The race of Barack Obama’s father is shown as “African” on the birth certificate, but next to that is a penciled number “9” that indicates “not stated.” The code is wrong, proving that the form is a fake.

        Of course, when I heard the stuff about the “9” I knew Zullo was way off track. I wrote an article last March about the race code on the form in my article, Decoding the long form (Part 2). You see, when the long form came out in April of 2011, I searched for a definitive answer to what the penciled notations meant. In my days in public health, I had occasion to do quite a lot of searching for specification documents at the CDC and I know my way around its sites and subdirectories pretty well. What I found is that the most recent coding specifications published were for 1968 (see index). The document is the Natality Tape File for Calendar Year 1968. Being intimately familiar with vital statistics in my former job, I knew that specifications change every few years, and that I could not rely on 1968 specifications to read 1961 data.

        Being a careful investigator, and not one to jump to conclusions too often, I filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on May 2, 2011, with the Department of Health and Human services for the 1961 specifications document. I received my response to request 11-00673 in August of 2011 and subsequently scanned it and made Tape File Information 1960-1961 natality Tape Files for the United States available on this web site, and today I uploaded it to Scribd. The document is also embedded at the end of this article.

        What we know from viewing the Cold Case Posse video is that Zullo used the 1968 tape layout manual and based his entire argument on how “not stated” was coded in 1961 with a “9”. The problem is that in 1961, code “9” represented “other nonwhite.” One might have excused this as a mistake, a bit of sloppy research from someone not qualified in the field, but the video repeatedly stated that the image they showed was from the 1961 manual, when it was not. Here is a screen shot from the Cold Case Posse video that the narrator describes as the “1961 vital statistics instructions manual.”

      • http://naver sook young

        Sorry Dave67, but you are not telling the truth. We have even had FBI and CIA experts confirm that his birth certificate is a fake. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Here is a video showing it is a fake.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/arpaio-posse-exposes-obama-fraud/

        We know that he is not a natural born citizen, so he is not elidgible under our Constitution. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          So quit boring us with it and file a lawsuit. You’ve got 5 votes on the Supreme Court for almost anything right wing and you’ve got all those W appointees on the lower courts, but you can’t survive a motion to dismiss. What does that tell you?

      • http://naver sook young

        If this is true Jeff, then why did the Supreme Court yphold Obama Care? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          I don’t know. Maybe it’s the exception that proves the rule. On the whole, you’d have to agree this Supreme Court has been pretty reliably conservative.

          • Elaine

            There’s a big difference in the Supreme Court upholding ObamaCare and what they actually did. What they ruled was that it wasn’t illegal because the government wasn’t going to make people purchase insurance. They ruled that it was legal that the government could pass a tax and that ObamaCare was actually bringing about a tax to bring about the purchase. This was another revelation of another lie we’d been told that ObamaCare wasn’t a tax. So they said it would be up to our elected officials to get rid of it rather than them.

      • http://naver sook young

        As my husband would say, “The Supreme Court just fumbled on their own one yard line.” But that’s OK, for Congress just voted to overturn it or defund it. My husband and I will not pay one thousand dollars in 2014 because we opted out. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYgpPB1kwU

  • JimH

    Great picture of Bill Mahr, Showing us how many his IQ is.

    • old hilllbilly

      30??? He found his middle finger! wonder if he knows what he can do with it???

      • http://Yahoo.com Mary Lou Barnwell

        Hillbilly, Yes, he can put it where the sun dont shine!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Mary, i think he does!

    • Kenistaz

      Hay JimH that’s not his IQ that would be to high It’s actually his # of friends before his rat died

      • JimH

        Hi Kenistaz, I guess I was being a bit too generous. His finger doesn’t have fractions.
        My condolences to the rat and his family.

    • http://none Floyd Hardee

      Actually it used to be that high, but has slipped recently and now that would be as minus 1 insteand of a plus 1. Sorry Bill but you asked for it.

    • Jeff

      I had no idea how deprived you wingnuts are. Was that supposed to be funny? It was some of the most pathetic humor I’ve ever heard including Dennis Miller’s attempts at reviving his career.

      • Kate8

        Jeff – Deprived? LOL.

        Yes, absolutely. Deprived of peace, privacy, sovereignty, and the right to be free of tyrannical, despotic ideologs who wish to take away all liberty and force their will on us.

        That would include you, young man.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Sharon Taylor

        Since you don’t like what you read on this page, do yourself a favor and leave. Or would leaving cut into your pathetic paycheck?

      • Jeff

        Kate, I still think you’re a little on the nutty side, but I appreciate being called “Young man.”

      • http://naver sook young

        If you do not like his humor, then please do not watch. I think Ben is very funny. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

    • Brian

      This moron Maher is coming to Boise, Idaho. I should hope that nobody would go to listen to this foul mouthed creep.

      • Jeff

        Bill will be happy to match wits with you, but you first have to get by Louie Gohmert.

    • Jeffersonian

      Your bigotry and hatred of your fellow Americans who you disagree with is both unpatriotic and evil. Having these aggressions is part of why your unhappy with your life on some level. The hatred and petty name calling makes me feel like I’m back in middle school when I read these comments. The spelling and grammar usage confirms I’ve stumbled upon a comment thread for middle schoolers.

      • Jeff

        Warning to Pedophiles: While this blog is full of mental middle schoolers, the participants are all 50 and older physically.

      • Elaine

        And do you listen to yourself spouting hatred and bigotry? :-) So funny, :-)

      • http://naver sook young

        Actually, I’m less than 50. Here is a source showing that Obama’s policy of Obama Care will have their enforcers jailed for trying to imprison people.

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/how-to-nullify-obamacare-if-you-got-the-guts/

        Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • avid.flyer@yahoo.com

        Ya mean a lod of mental midgets? Lets see I remeber some of the lefts speals, like (SO WHAT) and They want dirty water and air, They don’t pay taxes. I could go on but it is a wastie of time.

  • Rocky Night

    Obama on Jerry Springer. Seems legit : ) LOL

  • Ron Travis

    if you cant speak your mind why say anything

  • nc

    Ben, I think Bill Mahr is telling you to “Spin on this!” You can’t carry his jock! He’s planning his national show while you are making videos for semi-literates! As they say back home, “You have to dance with who brung ya!!!”

    • Michael J.

      nc,
      Nah, that was when his gender re-assignment procedure was denied by an Obamacare panel of experts.

      • Jeff

        I’m sorry, sir. This is a Middle school-level blog. Fifth grade pee-pee jokes not permitted!

    • Dan

      Who would want to carry his jock? Nice comment nitwir, you must be an avid Bill mar watcher. The gutter mouthed, toilet tongue of HBO. How they ley him get away with all of his bad manners & knotheaded ideas & verbal trash, is beyond me. People like you that watch him, must be of the same ilk!!!! Trash mouthed, vermin.

      • mark

        Mahr has a sense of humor a thousand times superior to most of the participants on this site – despite his use of obscenities

      • mike

        marh has absolutely NO humor, how can anyone ever think he is the least bit humorous? i refuse to watch hbo or support this trash of bill marh trash trash trash

      • Waldomountainman

        Mark
        This comment shows just how morally challenged you must be.

        “Mahr has a sense of humor a thousand times superior to most of the participants on this site – despite his use of obscenities”

      • vicki

        Agreed. If Mahr’s humor was so superior he would have no need for obscenities. Watch Alfred Hitchcock shows sometime. There is truly superior humor.

        • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

          Vick they say keep your friends close but keep your enemy closer so I watch Bill Maher, I want to know what their thinking and saying, you just never know when you might need that information. Bill wasn’t always that far to the left leading me to beleive he need to come out of the closet or what ever rock he run and Hide under

      • Average Joe

        I don’t care much for Bill Maher, but I must admit that I do occasionally crack a smile for him ( other people refer to it as “Breaking Wind”). ;)

        • Jeff

          How clever? You could write for Dennis Miller.

      • Opal the Gem

        “Who would want to carry his jock?”

        nc and mark are in line having a shoving match to see who gets to carry it first.

    • http://elevatecoffeeco.wordpress.com Elevate Coffee Co

      Really NC? That idiot Maher has a TV watcher? What, do you and your buddies get together in your parent’s basement for a little Maher love fest? LOL

      • nc

        Elevate, actually we gather in the basement and watch dick cheney drop the “f” word on the floor of the senate and the crawford cretin walk around holding hands with a man! Mr. Mahr gets such a kick out of that!!

      • phideaux

        “…and the crawford cretin walk around holding hands with a man!”

        No need to call him names just because you are jealous nc.

      • Marlene

        (offensive comment removed) Obama must love that since he takes all the money Maher and Freeman lavish on him. Liberal twits, all three.

        • Jeff

          Are you another one of Dennis Miller’s new writers? New to the language?

    • MY

      Speaking of “semi-literates”, so glad you stopped by to watch with the rest of us. As to Mahr’s jock, maybe you’re the vaunted one qualified to carry it with honor. Lead us on, Enwisened One.

    • Worrried about us

      On the Oh Canada thing – I see that research in Massachusetts shows nearly 90 % of that state’s population happy with the healthcare plan Gov Mitt Romney put into place and which President Obama copied. What is Mr. Romney’s motive for rejecting his own plan other than he would rather be President than be truthful about the plan.

      • John

        This recent poll by The Strategic Counsel surveyed both Canadians and Americans.

        When it came to health care, 45 % of Americans felt Canada had a superior system, while 42 % of Americans thought the United States should stick with its own. 13% of Americans had no opinion.

        Meanwhile, the vast majority of Canadians, 91 %, felt that Canada’s health care system was better than that of the United States. 3% of Canadians felt the American system was better. 6% of Canadians had no opinion.

      • duif100

        ObamaCare is not a copy of RomneyCare!
        How did RomneyCare, a state plan, implement 21 new federal taxes?
        Notice that the Obama administration are the only ones that call ObamaCare a copy of RomneyCare.
        Obama the plagarist?

      • mark

        You’re right there. Romney is a total phony. At least Obama believes in his plan like it or not. Romney supported it completely in MA but now claims, he hates it. He get a 10 out of 10 on the hypocrisy meter.

      • Worried in GA

        There are MANY differences between the Massachusetts Health Law and ObamaCare. The Federal act is MUCH more intrusive, has gigantic costs associated with it, and will set SEVERE limits on what care we can receive within five years. The costs are way too great to have it any other way. If insurance companies are required to provide services they don’t now provide, and they are not allowed to raise their rates, they’ll shut down, and the government WILL tell us what we can have and what we can’t. Minimal free care will be available to the poorest among us, the wealthy will be able to pay whatever the costs, and the rest of us will be stuck. I’ve already got my “Don’t Blame Me” t-shirt ready for 2015.

      • http://none cactusbob

        Canadians depended on having the U.S. medical facilities to fall back on when their socialized medicine couldn’t provide their treatment reasonably quickly or at all. They pleaded with U.S. voters not to approve ObamaCare because it voided their safety net. Now they lost their safety net and we (unless repealed) have lost our superior health care. It became expensive because of government meddling and mandated free care for all who came, most recently illlegals. A cow can give only so much milk per day, and ours is sucked dry. Romney seems to know the difference between what states can do and what the federal government can do, under our Constitution. If our ersatz president and Congress would learn that difference, and enforce it, we could get back to creating jobs and enjoying the benefits of unfettered capitalism. A wise man will learn from others’ mistakes, but BHO seems determined to have to learn from his own, at our peril.

        • Jeff

          So, we should all move to Massachusetts?

      • Kate8

        cactusbob – Very true, and doing all of those things to escalate medical costs behond reach was the plan all along… to get us to accept socialized/nationalized healthcare.

        Healthcare has long been the chosen vector for total control. Hitler did it, too.

        On top of that, our food, air and water have been tampered with to insure a sick population which is desperate for solutions. But the drugs were never meant to heal, but only to enslave us to a lifetime of being medicated and keeping us sick. Which, btw, will be a shorter lifetime than we’d have otherwise had.

        How nuts is it for us to entrust our health to the very same entities which are making us sick. The answer is always the same, no matter what the question: We must return to our self-reliance and reconnect with God. Divine Love and natural living is the only source for healing.

        • Jeff

          Kate:

          Do you have an actual Ph.D. in Crazy or is it just Honorary?

      • JeffH

        Jeff, I see your childish mental disorder is rearing it’s ugly head again…get out of mommy’s basement and seek help.

        • Jeff

          Seig heil! What DOES the H stand for, anyway?

      • Jeff

        John:

        The 13% are the ones who couldn’t find Canada on the map!

    • Paul

      Hey Ben: Show the video of Bill Orielly throwing a fit, cussing out his crew, using four letter words, throwing his scripts around because he can’t read whats on his tele prompter. Great entertainment.

    • Gary L

      The truth is that there are way to many morons lined up to carry Maher’s jock. That is about all a liberal is good for anyway. I wish it were not so…I wish there were no liberals.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      mark says: Ben, I think Bill Mahr is telling you to “Spin on this!” You can’t carry his jock, that’s my job, bit*h!

      • JeffH

        mark, mark, mark! :)

    • http://naver sook young

      You have to dance with who brought you? So if your mom brought you to the dance, you would have to dance with her? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

  • Michael J.

    So what is Springer going to ask Obama? Questions concerning the state of the socialist union perhaps? Or maybe Jerry would ask him if his membership at Chicago’s “Man Club” is still valid?

    No, I’d rather see Sheriff Joe Arpaio interview him.

  • Homer

    This is classic garbage: let a Hispamic come to this country make something of hinself in the Holly (ROTTEN) Wood, and he thinks his crap smells like perfume and turns on a Duly elected sheriff who IS doing his job, because the man has proven that obamas B/C and selective service records are fake! Someone likes a lie…someone can’t handle the TRUTH!! Shut up george Lopez! You are not that funny &^%$#@

    • Karolyn

      He has the right to saay whatever he wants just like you do.

      • Opal the Gem

        Just like Homer has the right to tell him to shut up.

      • http://naver sook young

        The same right I have to say that Jesus loves you, Karolyn. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Marlene

        Does he have the right to be a foul mouth, or is that a right reserved only for Liberals?

    • phyllis

      He had to come to America to make his fortune and now cuts down the country
      that made him a success. He now wants all his countrymen to be able to come.
      One comes out of the woodwork and holds the door open for more. How many illegals
      are we supposed to raise so they can make us a third world country. Look at California
      going broke because they pay the illegals to stay. and now California wants the
      other states to bail them out. Good luck with that!!!

    • Jeff

      I wasn’t aware Sheriff Joe’s jurisdiction now includes Honolulu.

  • Karolyn

    I really don’t understand the mentality of people whose job is to make fun of and make up stories about people. Very destructive behavior. And, no, I do not like Bill Mahr either. I wonder if he and Ben were bullies in school too.

    • http://www.facebook.com/patricia.himesedwards Patricia Himes-Edwards

      They might have been picked on by bullies that’s why when they get in a position of power they run their mouth to bash everyone and anything that does not agree with liberalism.

    • Kate8

      Karolyn – It’s called satire, and it’s always been around.

      It’s a way of injecting humor to make a point. What will happen when we are no longer allowed to criticize people of influence?

      Your really want that?

      • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

        to me it already getting pretty bad doesn’t take much offend somebody a joke,god,our flag ten camandments christmas. it just seem like people come from other country we have to adjust to their beleif, never mind about us we the people there allot going on this country that shouldn’t be happening not what our for father wanted for use lawyers yuk

    • http://naver sook young

      How about what Obama says in this article? Is this bad enough?

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/14/Obama-Ad-Kill-Shot

      Why would he attack America the Beautiful? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Marlene

        This only proves only that Obama’s idea of running a campaign consists solely of spouting lies, compacted over more lies. He tells vicious lies so much that he can’t recognize the truth. Could it be because he doesn’t even know who or what he is since he’s lied so much about his identity? I believe that’s a strong indication of a weak mind that weakens more each day. Stand back – his implosion will be messy!

        • Jeff

          Could you list a few? I don’t mean just differences of opinion but actual lies. Like Romney-level lies where he can’t remember what he did or what he said or what positions he took in what race in the past? Or why he’s afraid to release his tax returns? Or how he wishes he had gone to Viet Nam? Or how he left Bain in 1999?

      • Jeff

        You’re referencing Breitbart, the former king of sleaze and lying? The guy behind the doctored tapes? I just want to know, is he on Obama’s Body Count or Hillary’s. Or was he found walking in George Zimmerman’s neighborhood?

      • http://naver sook young

        Can you prove they were doctored Jeff? If they were doctored, then why was he murdered for them? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Elaine

        Was this a wmv when you posted? I suspect it was. Now, it’s just a picture of BHO.

        I notice one of his campaign managers is throwing out the racist card again. And this to one of the biggest reverse bigots there is? (Well, Mrs. BHO might be the biggest even since 2008 was the first time she was ever proud of this country.)

      • http://naver sook young

        She also said, “All this for a damned flag.” Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • http://yahoo chloe09

    The reason Bill Mahr gets away with on HBO is because it’s a liberal cable channel. Plain and simple.

  • http://PersonlalLiberty squeaker1935@yahoo.com

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    • TheOsprey

      He was fired – from “Politically Incorrect.” He said “The country will be healing from 9/11 when we can joke about it.” Then, he told a joke about it. He was fired shortly thereafter. The show wasn’t bad then since he had a balance of conservatives and liberals on the discussion panel e.g. Ann Coulter.

      • http://bobsabin.wordpress.com bobsabin

        You’re kidding – right? There were always two libs for each conservative – PLUS Mahr himself. Coulter and a number of others could hold their own and that was fun to watch, (kind of like a Jackie Chan fight) but when you get a lightweight like Tucker Carlson – it was a 3 on 1 turkey shoot.

        • TheOsprey

          My apologies, I should have said ‘usually” balanced, 2 libs plus Maher against a GOOD conservative is balanced ala Jackie Chan. A GREAT conservative like Reagan would have had them looking like a deer in the headlights.

      • http://bobsabin.wordpress.com bobsabin

        BTW – I’m for freedom of speech. NEVER take Mahr off the air. But don’t take my guys Beck, Limbaugh or any right wingers off the air either.

  • flpi!

    Maher is a has been hack who used to be funny and the only reason he is on television is because of cable. I used to work in the entertainment industry and believe me,, many other comedians don’t even like Maher.

  • cathy bauer

    Cool,truthful comments!!!!!!!!

  • Old Sully

    Lopez and BHO share several common factors:
    Both were raised by their grand parents and were abandoned by their fathers. George was also abandoned by his mother.
    Neither has ever served in the military to defend others.
    Both are self-serving.
    Both are willing to put down others that criticize them and start a feud.

    They are both incredibly dwarfed when it comes to sound moral principles, character and integrity when compared to Sheriff Joe.

    • Kate8

      Old Sully – You forgot to mention that they are both empty suits, who have nothing coherent to say that isn’t scripted for them. And that’s not saying much.

    • http://naver sook young

      They are also very immoral and tend to lie. Here is an article showing that Obama took money from Bain.

      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/07/obamas-hypocricy-took-money-from-bain/

      He always talks about Romney, but what about himself? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

    • Jeff

      Except for the part about paternal abandonment, I thought you were talking about Reversible Von Mittens.

      • phideaux

        This is 17 or 18 comments by Jeff and not a single one has added anything of substance to the discussion. In fact most of his comments are one liners that have fallen flatter than a Mahar joke at a Pentacostal revival.

  • chas

    Maher is a has been, I won’t even let stay on my tv screen, zip gone!!!!!
    He says (expletive deleted) to get attention, no orethought to what is true or false from him…cb

    • Opal the Gem

      I only watch him when he is on Leno. It is rather amusing when a Hollywood audience won’t laugh or even boos him both of which I have seen happen.

  • http://none Floyd Hardee

    Obama is angry becuse he thought he knew who his daddy was, but now he has doubts. He is taking it out on us by trying to make slaves of us while running this country down to a tenth rate power. Bill acts like he may have the same problem. peerhaps they should join forces and consult with each other. They just may have the same genes?

  • FreedomFighter

    Proving once again:

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.–M. Savage

    What do liberals want ?

    Total control of your life, your medical care, what you eat, where you work, what you make in pay, eugenics, abortion, to kill children upto 5 years old. give the elderly the red pill, and on top of all that, they are allmost invariably communist socialists that dont want you to own property, and tax you till you puke.

    Liberals disgust me.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • http://bobsabin.wordpress.com bobsabin

      Agreed. Look at the Communist Party website (cpusa.org). They support Obama’s initiatives 100% – and the Democrat platform looks more like the CPUSA platform than ever before. (FL-R) Rep. Alan West was right. I’m sure he CAN name 80 – 100 Communists in Congress.

      • Ted

        If West can name 80 to 100 Communist members of Congress, why won’t he? I’d be surprised to learn that there are 80 members of any Communist Party.

      • FreedomFighter

        Ted its because communists and Muslims lie, in fact Muslims are incouraged to lie to infidels and communist do it to further the agenda. You know them by the actions they take.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Ted

        FF – My point is that if Rep. West knows 80 to 100 Communists, he should do the whole country a favor and tell us who they are, and why he thinks so. I also commend you on your perspicacity to know whether a person is a liar, when you don’t even know his name!

        For a long time, conservatives have claimed the ability to tell the future, and to read minds, now we have one who claims to have ESP. LOL

      • http://naver sook young

        Yes we do need another Joe McCarthy (sp). Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

    • Karolyn

      Seriously, FF? I know no liberals that fit into your parameters.

      • FreedomFighter

        We can start with Harry Ried and Nancy P and our commi pres Obama — work your way down the list…

        The democ-rat party is now the communist party and liberals have attached themselves exclusively to this.. so by definition.

        Might I add communists are godless, or government becomes god. If you have no value to the state — you are eliminated.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Dave67

        Funny thing is Karolyn,

        To the loons here… Everyone they don’t agree with is a liberal. Every Democrat is a liberal even Reid and Obama…

        But when you tell them how conservatives like Bush 2 and Reagan royally screwed this country, you get “oh, they are not conservatives”

        Doubletalk and avoidance of responsibility is all you get from Conservatives

        • Elaine

          Dave67 says:
          July 23, 2012 at 2:20 pm

          To the loons here… Everyone they don’t agree with is a liberal. Every Democrat is a liberal even Reid and Obama…
          ~~~~
          Even Reid is thought to be liberal? That’s a good one for a comedy routine.

          Also, there are conservative Democrats and there are liberal Republicans. We have a RINO senator in SC opposite, Senator DeMint. I would like to see that liberal L. Graham voted out. I vote Democrat a lot of times. It depends on the person and voting record for most conservatives.

      • http://naver sook young

        Reid, Obama, Pelosi, and many others are very liberal. Hillary wants to get rid of the Second Amendment, usually the liberals want to take firearms away from the people. They also passed NDAA, Obama Care, won’t build the Keystone Pipeline, and many other things that are against what we want for this country. They are always the opposite of what this country needs or wants. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Elaine

          Jeff says:
          July 23, 2012 at 5:03 pm

          Officer Tippett was shot by Oswald at a movie theater after the assassination. So far as I know, he had no particular information about the assassination
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          You’re so right. My mistake.

        • Jeff

          Why do you identify yourself as Wife of the Samurai? Is he really a Samurai? Just like Jon Belushi? Do you not have a separate identity?

          Apparently, Wife of, the politicians have constituents who agree with their positions sufficiently to vote for them. And when you say “get rid of” the 2nd amendment, do you mean repeal it or maybe interpret it differently from the Scalito twins, et. al.? Even if the amendment does grant a personal right to a firearm (which I deny), does that firearm include military weapons capable of killing dozens of people in seconds? These questions are never simple unless you don’t really think.

      • http://naver sook young

        Your post shows no intelligence and there is no need for me to respond. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust

    • Jeff

      FF:

      Your post contains not a syllable of truth. I see you like to quote Savage. Do you know who he really is? You think he’s conservative? It’s an act. He was on the left until he figured out he could get rich and famous dishing out nonsense to morons. He’s from New York and moved to San Francisco where he hung out with various lefty poets like Alan Ginsburg from the City Lights Bookstore. He and Ginsburg likely had a gay affair that ended badly. There are postcards between the two.

      Michael Weiner wanted fame so badly he could taste it. When he found his formula, he took the name Savage and became the most obvious self-hating Jew ever on the radio. Why do you think he talks about loy-ahs from NYU (and not Berkeley)? The ACLU? Seltzer? He singles out Jewish liberals for particular scorn (HenryWaxman, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Barbara Boxer) and his own past gives rise to his hatred of gays.

    • Dave67

      Once again, FF knows nothing about liberals and what liberals want but it sounds nice.

      I guess when big money buys congress to pass laws that redistributes more wealth in to their pockets, thats ok…

      The Patriot Act was passed by conservatives, not liberals
      Conservatives got us into Iraq
      Conservatives put fgorth tax cuts while 2 wars were raging.

      So give us a break with your Bupersticker BS. For the past 30 years we have been in the throws of Reaganomic economic theory and now we have the long term results of deregulation, tax cut and spend, bad trade deals and corporatism.

      Enjoy the bed you conservatives made.

      • Elaine

        Dave67 says:
        July 23, 2012 at 9:14 am

        The Patriot Act was passed by conservatives, not liberals
        Conservatives got us into Iraq
        Conservatives put fgorth tax cuts while 2 wars were raging.

        ~~~~~~

        There were 50 Ds and 50 Rs until May 24, 2001, when Sen. James Jeffords (R-VT) switched to Independent status, effective June 6, 2001; he announced that he would caucus with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one-seat advantage.

        http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

        Give us a break and at least know your facts. It was passed almost unanimously by all of the politicians, and this was right after 9/11.

        And BHO was senator from IL at this time and was one of the ones calling for war, as were most other politicians and citizens.

        I’m not good with politics. I can’t say that a person is conservative or liberal by his party. But anyone can be either open-minded or closed-minded regardless of party affiliation or lack thereof. It’s being closed-minded, calling people names, and categorizing that leads to the wool being pulled over our eyes. And if someone is closed-minded and something bad happens that you helped to facilitate, then that puts a large part of the blame on do that person, too, doesn’t it?

      • http://naver sook young

        I see Dave and Jeff have forgotten that the liberals voted to go to Afghanistan and Iraq, voted for the Patriot Act, voted to extend and expand it when they had a majority in both the House and Senate, attacked marriage, don’t care about the slaughtering of children in abortion mills, and so much more. Please stop lying. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Jeff

        Wife Of:

        You are correct that too many democrats voted to give W authorization to do as he pleased in Iraq. It is embarrassing that so many democrats felt they could trust that little moron and his lying veep. In the House, Republicans voted “for” the war 215-6, while the Democrats voted against the authorization 127-82. In the Senate, it was Republicans 48-1 and Democrats 29-22.

        In partial defense of the Democrats, Bush flat lied to them, but if I knew he was lying, they should have as well. He said the authorization would give him leverage to negotiate and avoid war. It should have been obvious that Bush never intended to negotiate and that giving him the power to go to war meant we were going to war.

        In the post-war era, it is rare, if not unheard of, to deny a President the power Bush sought. The democrats who voted “for” this idiotic war showed a distinct lack of courage. That vote cost Hillary the nomination and the presidency. As with the Iraq war,, I would like to see the Democrats show more spine. Propose an assault weapons ban. Protect the people for a change rather than the NRA and the gun manufacturers.

      • Dave67

        Elaine and Samurai

        Who’s idea was Iraq? George W Bush (Conservative)
        Who’s idea was the Patriot Act? George W Bush and the GOP (Conservative)
        Who’s idea was it to put forth tax cuts while we were in 2 major wars? (George W Bush) Conservative

        You like all your conservative friends NEVER take any responsibility for anything. And you conservatives say anyone that does agree with your brand of conservative nuttiness is a liberal, socialist, communist and that includes ALL Democracts because you are full of crap.

        So since you paint everyone you disagree with a broad brush, I can do the same. Bush 2 was a conservative and his policies doubled the US debt. Reagan was a conservative and his policies tripled the US debt (BTW both enlarged the US Fed Gov)

        So deal with your BS record…

        • Elaine

          Dave67 says:
          July 24, 2012 at 8:44 am

          Elaine and Samurai

          Who’s idea was Iraq? George W Bush (Conservative)
          Who’s idea was the Patriot Act? George W Bush and the GOP (Conservative)
          Who’s idea was it to put forth tax cuts while we were in 2 major wars? (George W Bush) Conservative

          You like all your conservative friends NEVER take any responsibility for anything. And you conservatives say anyone that does agree with your brand of conservative nuttiness is a liberal, socialist, communist and that includes ALL Democracts because you are full of crap.

          (In the first place you meant “doesn’t agree”.)

          So since you paint everyone you disagree with a broad brush, I can do the same. Bush 2 was a conservative and his policies doubled the US debt. Reagan was a conservative and his policies tripled the US debt (BTW both enlarged the US Fed Gov)

          ~~~~~
          And in the 2nd place, you haven’t read all of my other blogs where I said that a person can be conservative and be a Dem. or a Rep. and be liberal, have you? I said that most conservatives vote for the man instead of the party because a label doesn’t give his voting record and most conservatives are thinking people. :-) They don’t say “because you do I can”. That is ignorance in my opinion, especially when they don’t know what they’re talking about in the first place, as you’ve just proven.

          In the 3rd place, you talk about the doubling and tripling of the debt, but you conveniently ignore the debt that is booming every 2nd under this BHO usurper who lied about everything from his birth, his residence (he had an international scholarship if he indeed was a citizen), his military selective service record, his social security number, and most especially the fact that he had only used one name. All of it is felonious. And you ignore this!!!!

          You sound like you’re one step from a breakdown with your ranting.

      • http://naver sook young

        Pay them no attention Elaine, as they are just little men with little minds. They cannot post facts or sources, for fear the truth would prove them wrong. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • http://yahoo chloe09

    Does anyone really know a Democrat that’s happy about anything, anything at all. They are all whiners.

    • http://bobsabin.wordpress.com bobsabin

      Your comment is in opposition to a friend who just returned from the Reagan Library in L.A. His 15 year old said, “Wow Dad. That man was such an optimist!”

      • http://yahoo chloe09

        Well let me rephrase that. Most, but not all Democrats and Liberals are never happy.

      • Kate8

        chloe09 – It’s true. It seems they all revel in victimhood. In fact, they go to great lengths to find things to feel victimized about.

        Carolyn Myss named it “woundology”, and they display it proudly.

    • Donald Jacques

      A dead demorat is a happy demorat, He finely gets to go down and meet his father, at least he or she will be nice and warm. (none of the words in this comment are spelled incorrectly). I took the( C )out because they cannot see what they are doing to this great country. GOD BLESS the U.S.A.
      DGJ

      • The GLB

        Donald, have you noticed that ‘Demorats’ prefer to refer to themselves as ‘Demoratic’, because ‘Demorat’ ends with RAT.

        Seriously, the next time you watch the news or anything where democrats are being discussed (by people that one must assume are themselves ‘Demorats’) you will notice that the ‘Newsbabe’ goes out of her way to say democratic v. democrat when the noun is the proper form to use.

        If I had NOT heard a long time ago that democrats do NOT like that word because it ends with RAT(s), then I would have just attributed this moronic misuse of the adjective in place of a noun as just one more example of our failed, and failing, public school system.

      • JimH

        GLB, I know why I say ick after the word DemocRAT. I just didn’t know why they do.

      • Dave67

        Gotta love conservatives… They can deflect, lie and sensationalize but they cannot give the answer to a very simple question:

        What rights and freedoms have you lost under Obama that you had under Reagan?

        So all their blatherings mean nothing… While they lie about Socialism, the wealth gap increases and corporations are having more and more free reign to buy the policies of this nation.

        • Jeff

          I wonder if Donald Jacques is really Louis Gohmert. That last comment sounded dumb enough to have come from the Congressman.

        • Elaine

          And do you think those who want the NWO are doing so because of their altruism? No!!! It’s the power that will come from their socking all of our money into the off-shore accounts so that they have it all.

          Pelosi, Reid, the Kennedy’s, Kerry’s, and Obama (or whoever he is) are like the people you describe, but you conveniently omit them. Why is that?

          I’m not even going to play the “gotta love” game because your blindness or greed, whichever is correct, could cost us all our freedom; just like the guy who complains that his family were in Nazi Germany. I’m not sure that wasn’t you. I’m not going to reread them, though.

    • Karolyn

      You have got to be kidding me! Most of the whining and complaining here comes from Republicans and conservatives!

      • JeffH

        …and someone said eddie47D left the building…sure you’re not related?

      • Palin16

        You’re right JeffH, haven’t seen edduh47 in awhile…or dumnisso or eyesgluedshut. But have no fear, other progressives like Dave67 will take their place, to try to “enlighten us”.

      • JeffH

        Palin16, I believe eddie finally broke the straw with Bob and got a full time “exit stage left”… :) yer right about D67 too.

      • http://naver sook young

        Let’s not forget about flashy, David Deal, Eric Jones, and truesoy. They never tell the truth. Did you have a good weekend Jeff H, Palin 16, and Karolyn? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Dave67

        You forgot fear as well Karolyn.

        Kate8 is special… she believes in every crackpot right wing conspiracy that comes along. I debunked her Obama false BC in another thread, Kate thinks Obama is a homosexual too…

        Funny these right wing loons say Obama is taking our freedom… OK loons…

        Which freedoms that you had when Reagan was in office do you not have today?

        Whatcha got?

        • Elaine

          I’m sure you’ve read all of the EO’s and the 2000 pages of ObamaCare. Why don’t you tell us?

          A lot of them won’t even materialize unless he gets to stay in the WH another term? Or didn’t you hear about the open-mike gaffe?

      • Palin16

        Thank you Soon Young. Yes I had a good weekend, took the dogs to the dog park.

      • Palin16

        sorry, Sook (typo)

      • JeffH

        Sook Young, always and thanks for asking. :)

        I see D67 is back on the shill clock today. (Mon. 7/23)

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    Bill Maher already stuck his finger some where he just showing you what on it, and by the look on his face it doesn’t smell good

    • phideaux

      To me it looks more like it doesn’t taste good.

  • dan

    funny how comedians become all bitter and angry when they cease to be relevant

    I guess that’s why Ben is such a hoot…and love those Cannucks,but doubt the polls

  • http://bobsabin.wordpress.com bobsabin

    None are likely members of the Communist Party, but I can name 10 – 15 that subscribe to the ideals stated on the Communist Party website.

  • Glen

    I would like to have HBO but I refuse to get it because they carry the Bill Maher.

  • The GLB

    Ben, your one-eyed illuminati salute had a special flourish this week.

    • nc

      GLB.. Glad you mentioned Ben’s one eyed salute! The last time I saw that salute was by a 250 pound pole dancer in Houston!! Honest!!

      • phideaux

        Does your wife know you lust after 250 pound pole dancers?

      • The GLB

        What was his stage name?

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    Romney Verses Obama

    Real Fact The I.R.S. has just been empowered to grab your assets
    Yes, you read that right.

    Obama has given the green light and an unlimited budget to the I.R.S.—the tax collecting arm of Obama Care—the right to grab:
    • Your home
    • Your life savings
    • Your mementos
    • Your business assets
    • Your family heirlooms
    • Your children’s college money
    • Your unprotected retirement savings
    • Your secret nest-egg

    Virtually anything of yours it damn well pleases. And here’s their sinister plan…

    Your assets will be liquidated and the proceeds used to pay for health care for illegal aliens. How does the Tea Party know this?

    Because the illegal alien clause was NEVER TAKEN OUT of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)—also known as Obama Care.

    Can you say redistribution of wealth (or poverty as the case may be because by the time O’Scammer is done in the Oval Office we’ll all be dirt poor)—the very thing Obama has been pushing all long.

    They have the authority to take from the mouths of your family and give to undeserving, ILLEGAL strangers. As Obama disembowels our Free-Enterprise Republic, his liberal minions cheer him on, dreaming of the day they can bask in the glory of their evil and sinister conquest.

    But YOU have the power to help us drive a stake through Obama Care and get rid of this garbage piece of legislation no one wants. Help us fax blast the hell out of both the Senate and the House–all 535 members–and tell them “DITCH Obama Care NOW!” Kill it once and for all.
    Facts about Mitt Romney=em
    Just Some Real Facts About Mitt Romney That We Will Not Hear About From The Lame Stream Media About The Real Mitt Romney! All you will hear from the Lame Stream Media about Romney will be negative or repulsive (from Mitt’s high school days approx. 50 years ago!) that in no way proves anything about what this man is made of today. The facts below are much more informative than what CNN or MSNBC can dig up about Romney.

    Mitt Romney:

    After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar, but never worked as an attorney.

    As a venture-capitalist, Romney’s first major business deal involved investing in a start-up office supply company with one store in Massachusetts that sold office supplies. That company, called Staples, now has over 2,000 stores and employs over 90,000 people.

    Romney or his company Bain Capital (using what became known as the “Bain Way”) would go on to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino’s, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.

    Got your calculators handy? Let’s recap.

    Volunteer campaign worker for his dad’s gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

    Unpaid intern in Governor’s office 8 years.

    Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years.

    Unpaid bishop and state president for his church 10 years.

    No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years.

    No salary as MA governor 4 years.

    That’s a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.

    And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his income….Obama gave 1%

    Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%

    This is real character vs….well you know what!

    Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and that he won’t desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or squander my money on vacations. I know he has the ability to turn this financial debacle that the “Spending President” has gotten us into. We didn’t know that when Obama said he’d give us change, he meant nickels and dimes, and he would get the big bucks. We won’t like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney’s background can do it.

    But, on the minus side, He never was a “Community Organizer”, never took drugs or smoked pot. Never got drunk. Did not associate with communists or terrorists. Nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn the U.S
    Yes, he told us in advance what he planned to do.
    Few were listening.

    The following is a narrative taken from a 2008 Sunday morning televised “Meet The Press.”

    From Sunday’s 07 Sept. 2008, 11:48:04 EST, Televised “Meet the Press” the then Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag.

    General Bill Ginn, USAF (ret.), asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn’t follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    The General stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171…

    During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention, facing the flag, with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, “Stand and Face It”.

    NOW GET THIS !!

    ‘Senator’ Obama replied:

    “As I’ve said about the flag pin, I don’t want to be perceived as taking sides…..” “There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression….” “The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air, and all that sort of thing.”

    (ARE YOU READY FOR THIS???)

    Obama continued:, “The National Anthem should be ‘swapped’ for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song ‘I’d Like To Teach the World To Sing.’ If that were our anthem, then I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as ‘redesign’ our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It’s my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of warring people, conduct ourselves like the nations of Islam, where peace prevails – - – perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments ……”
    “When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts . We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice,which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag, and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past.”

    “Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.”

    WHAAAAT, is that???

    Yes, you read it right.

    I, for one, am speechless!!!
    Dale Lindsborg , Washington Post

    • Dan Hobaugh

      as we the working union man we all know that the democrat is for the working man and so if you want to make min. wage vote rep.

      • Palin16

        Hogwash! My biggest raise ever in a closed union shop…$1.00/hr
        Biggest raise in non-union right-to-work state…..$3.50/hr increase…which I merited.

      • Elaine

        Oh, wow!!! That explains your position!!!

        My father was IBEW for more than 50 years and also a Democrat. His parents were, also.

        But parties change. The south was once Dem. because Lincoln was Rep. and he was against the south. Things change. Do you think the power grabs of the union heads are because they are so concerned about the members? No. It’s because they get so wealthy from the dues they collect for doing nothing. :-)

        My father got a pretty gold-toned watch for his 50th anniv. How many times do you think his dues had paid for that watch?

        And because he was union, he had to go out on strike any time any union went on strike at his company. Those other unions didn’t pay a dime to the IBEW members for honoring their strikes.

        But guess what? None of those unions kept that plant from closing and moving on. And he got nothing because he had a heart by-pass at the time. Too old to get a job anywhere else, too decrepit to work anyway, and nothing from a retirement or severance when they closed.

        The union really looked out for him, didn’t they? They really can’t do anything other than take your dues. Their power is dwindling, as it should when there’s nothing they can do.

        Branniff had a good union for it’s employees, but they couldn’t stop the execs from padding their golden parachutes before going bankrupt. They had even gotten the pilots and stewards / stewardesses to take a pay cut to keep the company solvent.

        Yep. Greed and avarice are the reasons for the problems of our country and all the others having problems. But the unions aren’t the solution. They’re part of the problem.

  • Kate8

    Hey guys… Does anyone doubt that the recent shooting “event’ was pre-planned, right on schedule, as gun control legislation is imminent?

    http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2419/357/Cover-Up_FBI_Theater_Attack_Warning_Memory-Holed.html

    This video keeps being taken down, but the FBI was warned 3 months ago to watch for SHOOTINGS IN THEATERS AND PLACES OF GATHERING.

    Only when we stop falling for these staged “events” will they cease to accomplish their purpose.

    • Average Joe

      First,

      My condolences to the victims and thier families, may God be with them in this, thier hour of need.

      Now, down to business:

      Hmmm….two .40 cal. handguns, a shotgun , an AR-15, bullet proof vest and helmet…all standard police / military issue…hmmmmm.

      According to the articles that I’ve read (so far)…he bought 6000 rounds of ammo from…local shops… and…. the internet…hmmm… ( any ammo or firearms purchases made by internet order…must be delivered to a licensed local shop and picked up from the local shop the same as any other ammo or firearm puchases…it’s the law) sounds like liberal media hype to me to me. Next consider the aprtment booby traps, the fact the he gave up without a fight and told authorities about those booby traps in his apartment…how strange is this behavior?

      Considering everything that has been wriiten and portrayed by the media about the shooter ( an awful lot of info within a very short time about the perp)…I can see only one answer… the CIA… MK-Ultra program ( a sleeper agent). After all, they are getting ready to vote on the U.N. Small Arms Treaty…and they need something polarizing to justify thier votes…and this is a perfectly timed catastrophy…I smell government rats on the loose…. AKA the Devil is in the details…AKA a false flag attack….anyone who thinks otherwise, should probably look into: Operation Northwoods, the sinking of the Maine, the attack on the USS Liberty, the second Gulf of Tonkin attack (which never happened) just to name a few…to truly know what our government is capable of doing to it’s own citizens in order to achieve an agenda…and this agenda is total disarmament of the people of the world (except government, of course) and the subverting of the second amendment…which was written to prevent the tyranny of government.

      A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

      In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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      In 1911,

      Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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      Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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      China established gun control in 1935. >From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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      Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      —- ————- ————-

      Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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      Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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      Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

      ——————————

      You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

      Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

      Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!

      The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

      With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.

      During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade

      America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

      If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.

      The purpose of fighting is to win.
      There is no possible victory in defense.
      The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
      The final weapon is the brain.

      All else is supplemental.

      SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!
      SWITZERLAND ‘S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THAT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE TO.

      As passed by the Congress:

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      The statement: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state,”
      is often misunderstood to mean that you need to be in a militia in order to own firearms. Well, point in-fact, every male of draft age who is of sound body and mind is considered a member of the “unorganized militia” according to the law, but that’s irrelevant, because the second statement:
      “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
      is the important part. This statement is the crux of the amendment and ensures that the individual right to bear arms is not infringed upon. Now, the way this sentence is constructed (in total), the right of the people allows for the well-regulated militia. The militia is a byproduct of the right to bear arms, not a prerequisite. Here is the grammatical break down from the prof:

      [ Copperud:] The words “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,” contrary to the interpretation cited in your letter of July 26, 1991, constitute a present participle, rather than a clause. It is used as an adjective, modifying ” militia,” which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject “the right,” verb “shall”). The right to keep and bear arms is asserted as essential for maintaining a militia.
      In reply to your numbered questions:

      [Schulman: (1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep and bear arms solely to "a well-regulated militia"?;]

      [ Copperud:] (1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people.

      [Schulman: (2) Is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" granted by the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state that such right "shall not be infringed"?;]

      [ Copperud:] (2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia.

      [Schulman: (3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well-regulated militia is, in fact, necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" null and void?;]

      [ Copperud:] (3) No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence.

      [Schulman: (4) Does the clause "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," grant a right to the government to place conditions on the "right of the people to keep and bear arms," or is such right deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?;]

      [ Copperud:] (4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia.

      [Schulman: (5) Which of the following does the phrase " well-regulated militia" mean: "well-equipped," "well-organized," "well-drilled," "well-educated," or "subject to regulations of a superior authority"?]

      [ Copperud:] (5) The phrase means “subject to regulations of a superior authority”; this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian control over the military.

      [Schulman: If at all possible, I would ask you to take into account the changed meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written two-hundred years ago, but not to take into account historical interpretations of the intents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated.]

      [ Copperud:] To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the meaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the amendment. If it were written today, it might be put: “Since a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.”
      [Schulman:] As a “scientific control” on this analysis, I would also appreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second Amendment to the following sentence,
      “A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.”

      My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be,

      (1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence, and the way the words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment’s sentence?; and

      (2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict “the right of the people to keep and read Books” only to “a well-educated electorate” – for example, registered voters with a high-school diploma?]

      [ Copperud:] (1) Your “scientific control” sentence precisely parallels the amendment in grammatical structure.
      (2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the possibility of a restricted interpretation.

      Got it? Good.

      The police will always be there in minutes…when seconds count.

      An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may
      have to back up his acts with his life.
      Robert A.
      Heinlein

      Before the liberal, anti- gun dweebs start whining and calling me names…quite frankly, I don’t care about your opinions…I’ve considered the source….and realize that you folks are quite simply…. delusional.

      Best Wishes,

      AJ

      • Kate8

        AJ – Bingo.

      • JimH

        AJ, Most of the time people who do something like the theatre attack take their own lives or are killed by police afterward.
        The fact he was taken into custody, without a fight is unusual, also.
        If it is a conspirousy, he’s not long for this world. He will never make it to trial.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        AJ, no name calling from me, only applause!!!

      • JeffH

        AJ, :)

      • Dallis Miller

        I second that motion and I don’t care what the liberal circle jerks think about me as well.

      • Elaine

        AJ,

        It seems to me that it had to have been more than one person involved by the sheer fact that the detonation devices in his apartment were of different levels of sophistication. Some were advanced and some were novice. Whether or not the unknown partied were knowingly aiding or just unwittingly complying with requests is unknown to the public at least.

        Not only was the timing right for the gun control, but it also helped BHO in that campaigning was put on hold. BHO, however, got to make public appearances to help bolster his “concern” for the public.

        Often when something calamitous happens, it’s there to detract from other things going on.

      • Kate8

        Elaine – There are a lot more questions that are not being reported in the complicit media.

        For one, the guy was given a scholarship for some kind of neurological study by the CIA. Secondly, he was on unemployment, so how did he purchase over $20,000 in weaponry?

        Then, among several strange goings on (such as a phone call just prior to shooting), he opened fire precisely at the point shooting began on the screen. (Aurora has gun control laws, so everyone there was disarmed.)

        The feds were on the scene faster than you can say WTH. Just as with the OK bombing, when the federal agents were told NOT TO COME IN THAT MORNING, they were prepped to be on the scene at a moment’s notice. ???? It’s almost as if they expected it to happen (sarc off).

        They guy calmly handed over his weapon to police, and volunteered that his apartment was booby trapped. Is that not strange? He appeared as some one who was following instructions to the letter.

        He was also drugged up with eyes glazed, as usual.

        There is much investigation to be done by unbiased investigators, because this event definitely was staged and all of the news scripts (and Obama’s speech) were already pre-scripted and ready for release within minutes of the happening.

      • Average Joe

        Kate8 ,
        The whole unemployed thing kinda bugged me as well ( I didn’t comment on that,at the time I posted,I felt that I was long winded as it was)….how does an unemployed person buy all of this weaponry, ammo and tactical gear? It just doesn’t make any sense to me.
        Also, I read all of your links yesterday and found it odd that they issued an alert about possible Theater shootings in May…the same time that this person supposedly started buying all of these goodies….quite odd in my opinion.

        .40 cal. glock pistol @ $400-500 each times two $800 – $1000
        Remington Model 870 shotgun @ $630 $630 – $1000
        Colt Model AR-15 @ $1500- $2000 $1500-$2000
        3000 rounds of .40 cal. ammo @ $15 per 50 round box= 60 boxes @ $15 ea.=$900
        300 rounds .12 ga. shotgun shells ( per 25 round box)@ $7.15= 12 boxes @$7.15 ea=$85.80

        3000 rounds .223 cal. ammo @ $133 per 300 round box= 10 boxes @ $1,330

        So far, bare minimum, we have:
        $800
        $630
        $1500
        $900
        $85.80
        $1,330……

        Total $5245.80

        This does not include tactical gear (ie. BP vest, helmet, ammo pouches extended magazines, bomb making ingredients and so forth)….grand total after adding these things is somewhere between $8000 – $10,000
        I do not recall hearing that he was on unemployment (only that he was having problems finding a job after graduation), but if he was, how did he pay for all of this, while paying his rent, utilities, food and other nessessities on unempolyment? Answer: Someone was supplying it to him.

        I did spend time reading ALL of your links yesterday and found them to be quite informative, thank you for those.

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

      • Kate8

        Thank you, AJ. It’s great to know that someone else is unafraid to boldly ask the hard questions without fear of being ridiculed.

        Fortunately, more and more people are beginning to see through all of the manipulations of the government, and so some real investigating. It’s turning up some really shocking things. The hard part is getting the sheeple to look at it.

        Of course, I don’t find it too shocking because, as I said, I read about this timeline scenario decades ago, and it wrenches my stomach to watch it all unfolding just as planned. People laughed at me then, and now fewer are laughing.

        I don’t know if you know this, but the FED, in 1913, set up an 100year contract with America. At the end of this year, the contract expires. It was always planned to collapse the system at the end of this year, with the endgame in mind.

        I don’t know if you saw the documents on unconventional warfare that has been being used on us for decades, but here it is:

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2413/971/Secret_Documents_about_Special_Forces_Unconventional_Warfare_Manual_2010.html

        Unless we know our enemy and what they are doing, we play their game, by their rules, and they win. When we see through the smokescreen, we can make better decisions.

        We are in a state of RED ALERT folks. I can’t say it any plainer.

      • Average Joe

        Kate8,

        I did know of the 100 year contract and had always assumed that when time came for renewal, it would not be renewed (Just as had been done in 1910 by the wealthy families who owned the federal debt at that time) and the IMF would demand “payment in full” from our government or relinquish the national assets as payment…..payment is now coming due.
        This is the reason our corporate US government ( US Corp. an area of 10 square miles,Puerto Rico,Virgin Isles,Guam etc. AKA territories) has been buying up all of the land, natural resources, other corporations, banks etc…..to turn over to the money changers. Remember that FDR had already allowed the to gold to be looted from the people in 1933, Johnson removed silver certificates and that Nixon finished the looting by taking us off of the gold standard.
        The 14 th Amendment made us (the people) liable for US Corp.’s debts ( Being a 14 th Amendment citizen is voluntary). That is one reason that I do not claim to be a US citizen. I am a citizen of the state that I was born in, taking up domicile within another state…I am not a US citizen taking up “residence” in this state.

        As for what others think about me or my views, I simply put the information out there. I try to give logical reasons for my views and try to give verifiable sources whenever possible. If people choose to believe, all the better, but if they don’t want to believe…there is nothing that I can say or do to change that. Like you, I have been telling it like it is for decades and many of the folks that called me a conspiracy nut, are finding out that I may have been right in my warnings all along.

        Loved the latest link. As with the others, they have been added to favorites as well as DLing the PDF (in case the link disappears).

        For everyone that has commented, thank you so much for your kind words and the ability to see the bigger picture.

        Best Wishes,
        AJ

      • JeffH

        Elaine & Kate8, there are reports from theater patrons that there may have been a second person involved in the shooting. One witness said that the tear gas cannister was thrown into the theater opposite of where the shooter entered.

        AURORA, Colo. — Sources tell FOX31 Denver reporter Justin Joseph that a second man is now a person-of-interest in the Aurora theater shooting investigation. We are not disclosing his identity because he has not been charged.

        Neighbors of the person of interest say for the past two days there have been SWAT team and police cars in their alley and unmarked cars in street.

        “He’s been there about a year,” said one neighbor.

        Agents showed up again this morning.

        …someone made either a call or a text from the person of interest’s phone threatening violence if James Egan Holmes was not released from jail. That call prompted police to issue an alert to find and detain him.

        …Anshutz Medical Center confirms he is in their doctorate program, the same program from which Holmes withdrew several months ago.

        …Aurora police declined to comment on this report due to the active nature of the investigation.
        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112510/-2nd-Person-Of-Interest-Sought-in-Aurora-Shooting

      • JeffH

        Possible Second Shooter in tragic Batman Denver Shooting Eyewitness Account
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=jBgI0X0zEts

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Remember the AZ shootings… they were also looking for a second person.

        These shootings are all too predictable, and seem to follow a pattern. Even the JFK shooting involved more shooters than one, and the killshot came from the front of him, not the side or behind. There is said to have been several shooters.

        I stand by my assertion that these are planned operations, staged by the government in order to justify the furtherence of their agenda. Thank God a lot of people are coming to the same conclusions, and are investigating.

        If anything, these staged shootings demonstrate the absolute necessity of an armed citizenry. If someone knows that there are many guns in any given location, who would dare to open fire? These things happen in places where guns are are banned.

      • Karolyn

        Why do these things happen so often in CO?

      • JeffH

        Kate8, absolutley. There’s no doubt in my mind anymore that these actions are perpetrated by subversive people in subversive organizations. I’ve bookmarked and saved so many of the links you’ve been posting here and I can’t discount their content…I’m sure there is so much more happening than what we exchange here and read elsewhere…there’s such a fine line between what’s real and what’s not and in this day and age anything is possible anymore.

        • Jeff

          Does it really matter? I don’t care if the shooter voted for Obama or Nixon. He obviously went nuts in some manner, so his politics are irrelevant. What is relevant is the type of weaponry he was able to purchase so easily. As long as military assault weapons with 100-round clips are readily available to anyone with a pulse, these mass shootings will continue to happen over and over again. Who could possibly need such a weapon outside the military? Even the police rarely have need for such weaponry.

          I know the gun nuts will start screaming about the 2nd Amendment and their God-given gun rights, but enough is enough. For hunting or personal protection, no one needs more than a rifle or a hand gun. If you think assault rifles are going to check some imaginary government action in the future, they won’t. If, like the NRA, you oppose all reasonable restrictions on weapons, you are an accessory to such gun violence.

      • CZ52

        “As long as military assault weapons with 100-round clips are readily available to anyone with a pulse…”

        He did NOT have a military assualt weapon. While he posessed a 100 round magazine he did NOT use it in the shooting. The rest of your diatrabe has been disproven so many times I won’t bother proveing them wrong.

    • phideaux

      I wonder if he was a willing or unwilling participant in a government experement.

    • Karolyn

      Give me a break with!

      • Karolyn

        Sorry about the “with.”

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – I have only one word for you: Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh.

    • Dan Hobaugh

      what are you eight.WOW

    • http://N/A CintiCB

      I had the same exact thought (shooting ‘set up’ by gun control group). This scared me as I thought, ‘being a bit paranoid, aren’t we.’ I’m glad to see that someone else has realized this possibility!!! I’ll tell ya, I’m getting REALLY scared. Have you seen anything about a Canadian news source reporting that a false assassination attempt will be asserted by OButholes’ camp, blame whitey, and have the ghettoeNs riot/burn down our entire nation. Their belief is that this will be done to prevent the upcoming election, thereby, instituting Marshall Law. I am scared as hell!!!!!

      • Kate8

        CintiCB – I have been paying attention to these things for nearly 3 decades. I read many, many years ago about the NWO playbook, and how they would take over America. These writings told of how we’d give up our liberty our of fear, told of “terror attacks”, and even told of mind-control programs using (at that time) children who were programmed to be triggered at the appropriate time to carry out mass shootings and commit mayhem. It is now unfolding exactly as planned.

        We have also been conditioned to view anyone who speaks of these things as “nut cases”, that “nothing is going on” and so forth. This keeps sensitive people silenced… we all self-censor. So, we are unwittingly complicit fools.

        There have been people trying to expose these things for a very long time…people like William Cooper, whom the feds took out, along with many more who dared speak the truth openly. Few have wanted to hear it. So, here we are folks, with communists in the WH, courts, and Congress, and also the high ranks of our military. That’s why they are not acting.

        So, all of you who want to ridicule me… Hey, I’m used to it, and it just speaks to your apathy and failure to be interested and informed, at our nation’s great peril. Sticks and stones and all that. Many far greater than I have been taken down for speaking up, so I figure that I’m, at least, in good company.

    • Elaine

      Kate8 says:
      July 22, 2012 at 6:03 pm

      JeffH – Remember the AZ shootings… they were also looking for a second person.

      These shootings are all too predictable, and seem to follow a pattern. Even the JFK shooting involved more shooters than one, and the kill-shot came from the front of him, not the side or behind. There is said to have been several shooters.

      I stand by my assertion that these are planned operations, staged by the government in order to justify the furtherance of their agenda.
      ~~~~~~~

      I just got an e-mail with this site link. If it disappears, I have the hard copy I can post. As it says, this isn’t a fact, but is strongly suspicious.

      http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46516

      ~~~~~
      And speaking of the JFK assassination, I was in high school in Ft. Worth at the time. There was such a high body count connected to people who were at the scene that it wasn’t even funny, including the arresting officer. (Tippett, wasn’t it?) As far as was revealed, nobody saw Oswald go into the theater. So how was he found so easily? And why hadn’t Secret Service checked all the rooms of an empty building that was along the route and sealed off that building? So many people were chased away from the lawn in the area of the book depository building but they were scattered everywhere else. And nearly all cameras were confiscated with some owners of those cameras dying shortly afterwards? No pictures of Oswald shooting from the 6th floor would have shown anything. Nobody would have even known to aim their cameras in that direction.

      • Jeff

        Officer Tippett was shot by Oswald at a movie theatre after the assassination. So far as I know, he had no particular information about the assassination

  • Kate8

    And it’s also time that Obama is treated with a visit, like the “visits” he’s paid to Congressmen and judges. Only this time, he needs to be placed under ARREST.

    Do WE have to get ‘er done, folks?

    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/

    The military and much law enforcement is aware of what’s going on, but they are too heavily infiltrated and don’t know who to trust. Well, of course the commies would take over the highest military leadership before moving in. Duh…

    • Dan Hobaugh

      Hi kate8 maybe you are right so i do apology.I wish i would have been in that theater because i do pack and maybe i could have done something.A person dont know untell it happens.I am also building a bunker so that kind of tells you what i think.which is not munch about this goverment.so again sorry.

      • Kate8

        Hey, Dan. No problem. I admit to being very passionate about the state of our nation.

      • Elaine

        I think I heard that Aurora has strict gun laws, which is why nobody could have been armed. There were plenty military troops there in uniform, but they couldn’t be packing. Only the lawbreakers could pack.

        Sound familiar?

        • Jeff

          You also heard that Obama’s a socialist, so I’m not sure your hearing is too relevant. Colorado actually has very open gun laws. The shooter’s AR-15 and his other weapons and all his massive ammunition were bought legally in Colorado. The AR-15 would be illegal in some states, including California and New Jersey.

          At the Giffords shooting in Arizona, there WERE people there with guns. Things happen so fast and unexpectedly that responding is unrealistic. First, you have to take cover; then identify the shooter; then be sure you’re not shooting at bystanders or at someone who may be disarming the shooter. By that time, it’s over and the shooter has emptied his magazine. It’s real life; not an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie!

          Have you EVER heard of one of these shooters being gunned down Hollywood-style? I don’t believe it ever happens that way.

          • Elaine

            Jeff says:
            July 23, 2012 at 1:04 pm

            Have you EVER heard of one of these shooters being gunned down Hollywood-style? I don’t believe it ever happens that way.

            It seems like quite a few may have. Charles Whitman in ’66. A girl in our college freshman class was in the tower on a tour with her church or school at the time.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

            (At the same time, Martinez jumped around the corner into the northeast area and rapidly fired all six rounds from his .38 police revolver at Whitman. As Martinez was firing, McCoy jumped to the right of him and fired two fatal shots of 00-buckshot with his 12-gauge shotgun into the head, neck, and left side of Whitman, who was sitting with his back toward the north wall in the northwest corner area 50 feet away. Whitman, who appeared to be unaware of the presence of Martinez and McCoy, was partially shielded by the deck tower lights and in a position to defend assaults from either corner.

            After firing six rounds, Martinez threw his empty revolver onto the deck and grabbed McCoy’s shotgun, running to Whitman’s prone body and firing point blank into his upper left arm. Martinez then threw the shotgun on the deck and hurriedly left the scene repeatedly shouting, “I got him.”)

            Asking someone to pull facts like that out of their heads is really unfair. You can look them up as easily as I, and maybe easier.

            I never said definitely what I heard since I was unsure. I haven’t been watching it for the most part, so your statement was unobservant of the facts in the first place. No wonder you can’t figure things out.

          • Jeff

            We experience something like 20 of these incidents per year (not all as publicized as this one), so anything may have happened once. Wouldn’t it be better if we didn’t have people walking around with 100-round clips and the ability to shoot 60 people in a minute?

      • JeffH

        Elaine,

        Currently in Aurora, Colorado, where the shooting took place, there are already laws prohibiting the carry of a concealed dangerous weapon (though unenforced, due to state law),* discharge firearms,** unless by law enforcement on duty or on shooting range, and have a loaded firearm in motor vehicle within the city limits.***Yet these laws were unable to stop James Holmes.

        How will stricter gun laws bring an end to criminals having guns, when the laws against murder have not been able to stop them from killing innocent people? They won’t!

        • Jeff

          They won’t, but maybe they’ll keep a nut like that from purchasing and possessing a weapon as dangerous as his AR-15. You may not be able to stop a gunman from killing one person, but you should be able to prevent his ability to hit 70 people in about as many seconds.

      • http://naver sook young

        The shooter was a member of the OWS group. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • Kate8

    Obama et al have an operation underway called “By Any Means Necessary” to keep him in office, election notwithstanding.

    http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/19/military-insider-president-obama-by-any-means-necessary/

  • Kate8
  • Kate8
    • Dan Hobaugh

      wow you must be playing fantacy life.

      • Kate8

        Dan – Perhaps. But I would say that it is YOU who are deluded.

        You are among those who DON’T WANT to know the truth. You can’t bear anything that might rock your simple little world… After all, that would imply some accountability is called for.

        But no. It’s easier to give all your personal power over to those who promise you things to buy your vote. Don’t you worry…they’re taking care of everything.

        It’s called selling your soul. I, for one, will never do that, no matter how futile it seems to speak the truth of what I see, no matter how loud the bleating of mindless, gutless sheep.

        I’m not afraid of people like you. I view you as pathetic.

      • Average Joe

        Dan Hobaugh,

        I believe it is you who is living a fantacy (sic) life.

        I am guessing that some of you folks will never awaken from your slumber…..

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • http://naver sook young

        How about this one Dan?

        http://www.beforeitsnews.com/2398/843/Troops_Ordered_To_Kill_All_Americans_Who_Do_Not_Turn_In_Guns.html

        If they try that at our house, my husband would fight to keep them. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    jay he already put it where the sun don’t shine he showing you what is on it I don’t think what ever on it smell pretty bad look at that face he making

  • http://aol.com Henry

    Ben, it’s difficult to believe anyone would take a moment to listen to your adolescent dribble. Your a wantabe hack!

    • http://naver sook young

      Please leave. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Elaine

        sook young says:
        July 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm

        How about this one Dan?

        I couldn’t find out how to post under the one I wanted. The site you gave is already gone as a 404.

        Not surprising, is it?

    • phideaux

      Sook, Henry is just jealous because no one will pay him to write a column.

  • Clif C.

    I live in Ottawa, Canada. I pay income tax every two weeks and all the other taxes. I went into a clinic last week. There were many unemployed people there to visit their physicians. I cannot use the clinic because I do not have a doctor there. I work in a hospital but I cannot use the clinic because I do not have a doctor there. I have to use one of the few walk in clinics were they take people off the street and believe me when I tell you I get rushed out in a few minutes.I do not have a GP. It is better here than accross the river in Quebec.

    • Karolyn

      It must vary greatly in Canada because there were some Canadian posters last week who posted that they love the healthcare system up there and have no problems with it.

    • Karolyn

      Just an off-topic post: I received a letter from George Soros today in support of the Drug Policy Alliance against the “war on drugs.” I would be interested to know how this position equates with his supposed support of the status quo and the NWO? Wouldn’t’ a communist/socialist/whatever support the war on drugs? This is confusing.

      • Karolyn

        Reposting this at the bottom where it belongs.

        • Jeff

          It’s just a ruse to confuse Glenn Beck.

      • Marlene

        Karolyn, just curious….why would you be getting correspondence from George Soros unless you are a registered member of the Communist Part? I’m certain he doesn’t send mail to just anyone.

        • Jeff

          On your planet, is it still 1950?

  • Kate8

    Clif C. – We are fed so much propaganda here in the States that we have no idea what healthcare is like in Canada. Thank you for that report.

    What many of us DO know that it is not at all about healthcare, but it’s about total government control. Government HC, gun confiscation = genocide. It is a methodolgy that has been repeated time and again throughout history.

    In any case, it is deprivation of our right to choose for ourselves. The rest is history, so to speak.

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    Kate8 there will alot of blood shed if they even try take the from the american people i keep hearing that Hillary want be in with united nation doing away with everyone guns no two people have that right, read the 2nd admendment that what it was there for to protect us from people like her, why does people like the far left want guns gone they say it because of all the killing, that not it at all they know that people are getting tired of a handful stealing from this goverment think about it how many have gone to jail over the housing industry and all the other stuff that keep going on very few and they still get big checks for what stealing from us, just try to get one of those loan modification very hard to do I know I have tried for 18 months now and they finaly gave me one $1,404.00 down to $1,338.00 why 1% drop in interest they say because I’m so far behind the bank kept losing paper I even had my congresssman send the paper in and still was lost. Barny Frank that lolley pop saleman he should gone to jail but he and all the rst always has a back door way out, maybe we should go get Marth and put her back in jail again “LOL”

    • Kate8

      twisted – I recently heard a militia member suggest that Hillary be relieved of her armed security so she could know what it feels like to be vulnerable, like she wants to do to us.

      Same with Obama.

      BTW, he replaced his secret service because he didn’t trust them. He replaced them with anti-American security, who are no doubt paid better than the real ones.

      Loyal Americans GET IT.

      • Elaine

        How many people think they can trust lawyers? How many people think they can trust politicians? Well the Democrats mostly have a 2 for the price of one.

        A LAWYER WITH A BRIEFCASE CAN STEAL MORE THAN A THOUSAND MEN WITH GUNS.

        This is very interesting! I never thought about it this way.
        The Lawyers’ Party, By Bruce Walker

        The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers Party.

        Barack Obama is a lawyer. Michelle Obama is a lawyer.

        Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. Bill Clinton is a lawyer.

        John Edwards is a lawyer. Elizabeth Edwards was a lawyer.

        Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate).

        Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school.

        Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress:

        Harry Reid is a lawyer. Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.

        The Republican Party is different.

        President Bush is a businessman.

        Vice President Cheney is a businessman.

        The leaders of the Republican Revolution:

        Newt Gingrich was a history professor.

        Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist.

        House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer.

        The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

        Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976.

        The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.

        The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich. The Lawyers Party see these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America .. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers’ Party, grow.

        Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail?….Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation. This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.

        Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become adverse parties of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

        Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big.

        When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.

        Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.

        The United States has 5% of the world’s population and 66% of the world’s lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association go to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high!

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    give me brake,in stead of the casting couch, Bill Maher most likely got down on his knees and had something that look like a long stem mushroom in his mouth

  • http://twistedstick.wordpress.com twistedstick

    Who wrote about Bill Maher did real good until he got to talking about Ariana Huffington and calling her a C the very same thing Bill Maher call Sarha Palin that the far right has been all over him manely Hannity I feel he destoryed himself by doing that, I’m not a big fan of her either. I say him I don’t know many women that would call anyone that oh there maybe a few, I could be wrong

  • Chris Phillips

    Bill Maher is a Zionist/racist/typical “American” Jew.

    • Jeff

      Bill Maher is half Jewish but was raised a Catholic. His early comedy made fun of his roots (e.g. bringing a lawyer with him to confession). He is now an atheist and treats all religions as equally deluded, reserving special condemnation for the Muslims as they seem less able than the Jews and Christians to ignore their zealots.

      Your bringing up his background and calling him a racist and Zionist says a lot more about you than it does about him.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I TRIED TO WATCH THE “No Canada” VIDEO. IT WOULD NOT PLAY.

  • Dan Hobaugh

    REP. ARE EVIL.Thats just from what i have seen and heard.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jim.summers.33 Jim Summers

    @Kate 8, as much as I am concerned about liberty and freedom and hate the left winged lunatics agenda. I’m very concerned about your paranoia regarding Ben who is being sarcastic. You’re really over the top and should probably try opening up your blinds and traveling outside, sitting behind your computer all day looking for wealthy and celebs giving a particular salute to fulfill your conspiracy theories is getting the best of you.

    • Kate8

      Jim – You are entitled to your opinion.

      I, personally, don’t find the NWO anything to joke about.

      In fact, to those involved in it, it is WE who are the joke.

      We are on the precipice of something unspeakable, having been lulled, deceived, indoctrinated and socially engineered for a century. This whole economic collapse was always the planned final event that would bring in world government. Yep. The elite financiers engineered their own collapse, in order to bring in a new system.

      Oh, it will seem peachy at first, with all kinds of promises of not having to work so much, and freedom from money, and how we’ll all just live in this grand utopia. People will cheer and proclaim “peace and safety”, and end to war, and even an end to government.

      But it will be a false system and a trap, set to be sprung on an unsuspecting world at a time when we least expect it.

      But don’t listen to me. I’m only a paranoid nut case.

      But, time will tell, won’t it. Let’s check back in a couple of years. Maybe even less.

  • Kate8

    I really don’t know why I continue to bother because, apparently, no one is interested. But, just in case someone is:

    http://americannationalmilitia.com/2012/07/military-cue-militias-we-the-people-and-they-lose/

    We’re talking before the election, folks, because Obama is worried he could lose.

    • Palin16

      Kate, I am confident Obama will lose in Nov. Americans have caught on to his radical agenda and have consistently voted more conservative, ie.1) 2009 electing Scott Brown to Ted Kennedy’s seat, 2) 2010 midterm elections with the biggest House turnover in history (with the side benefit of dethroning Pelosi), and 3) Scott Walker retains governorship in Wisconsin. Add to that his recent insult to every hard working entrepaneur and small businessman in the country, Obama could be facing an even more humiliating defeat than Jimmy Carter.

      • Jeff

        The issue is not Obama’s humiliation but ours. Obama will be fine regardless. Jimmy Carter has been perhaps our greatest ex-president ever. His loss to Reagan, though, ushered in an era of greed that has marked the beginning of the end for the middle class. If we end up with President Plutocrat, you better pray he’s been lying about his plans or we’ll see a continuation of the Reagan Corporate Greed Agenda. Having a Corporate Raider in Chief is not going to aid anyone in the middle class.

      • Kate8

        Palin16 – Yes… And he realizes that, and is in panic mode.

        Apparently you didn’t look at the link “By Any Means Necessary”.

        http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/07/19/military-insider-president-obama-by-any-means-necessary/

        He actually has an operation to insure he remains in office “by any means necessary”. This is real, and we need to all be awake and alerty to his next possible move. He was placed in office to do a job, and it’s not quite complete. He needs another term, and he knows he is becoming more and more unpopular. Sheriff Joe has an ace card he has not yet played, perhaps because he’s been warned not to. What he has revealed is enough to have O removed from office, but the treasonous Congress won’t act, as they have sold us out, too.

        I won’t be easy for him to declare martial law. We have to be able to see through their machinations so we don’t fall for their ruses. Obama has to go, and he needs to take most of DC with him.

      • Palin16

        The peanut farmer from georgia our greatest ex-president of all time? Thanks for making me laugh today, I needed that. I’m sure others are laughing too.

      • phideaux

        Carter might and I emphasize MIGHT be considered the greatest EX-president but if he is it is because of his work with habitat for humanity since he was voted out of office.

      • Palin16

        Don’t forget Carter gave away the Panama Canal.

    • http://N/A CintiCB

      I wish that EVERYONE (not just Personal Liberty readers) could/would read this. It might open some eyes to what is REALLY going on-the eyes on ‘thinking people’, anyway. GOD HELP US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • David A Deal

    Kate8- I read the other day of one of these bloggers who had written what he later described as SATIRE similar to this and Politifact said it was completely false and that they can’t understand why they continue to have to debunk these ridiculous claims. Also from FACTCHECK-In remarks to the press today, Obama said that his campaign had already released his birth certificate in 2008. And, in fact, FactCheck.org staffers handled, examined and photographed the “certification of live birth.” That short-form document is what Hawaii releases to citizens who request a copy of their birth certificate, and we confirmed that it meets legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport. We concluded: “Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.”

    If that wasn’t enough, Hawaii newspapers had run birth announcements in August 1961, shortly after Obama’s birth.

    And on top of that, Chiyome Fukino, the then-director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, released a statement in 2008, saying she had seen the original birth certificate on file verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii. Fukino released a second statement in 2009, saying that Obama “is a natural-born American citizen.”

    The long-form version that the president released today has a few additional details, beyond what the short-form includes. It says he was born at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, just as the president has said. And it lists his mother’s birthplace as Wichita, Kansas, and his father’s as Kenya, East Africa. The certificate is also signed by Obama’s mother and an attending physician.

    An attorney for Obama, Judith Corley, wrote to the Hawaii Department of Health on April 22, requesting “a waiver of the Department of Health’s policy, so that my client can obtain two certified copies of his original, ‘long form’ birth certificate. Waiver of the Department’s policy in this instance would allow my client to make a certified copy of his original birth certificate publicly available and would also relieve the burden currently being placed on the Department of Health by the numerous inquiries it receives from the media and others relating to my client’s birth record.” Corley also included a letter from Obama, requesting the copies.

    On April 25, state Director of Health Loretta J. Fuddy wrote to Obama, saying that she was “making an exception to current departmental policy” and issuing copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth.

    Obama said he sought release of the long-form birth certificate so that the nation could focus on more serious matters. “We do not have time for this kind of silliness,” he said.

    We certainly have debunked a fair share of silliness on this issue.

    But Obama also said he’s sure that no matter what evidence he produced, for some segment of society “this issue will not be put to rest.” Tell us about it, Mr. President.

    • Kate8

      Yada yada yada. FactCheck is a liberal debunking site funded by Soros, and is devoted to supporting and covering for Obama.

      I’ve heard all of the arguments, but the fact remains that he has not produced a LEGITIMATE DOCUMENT, nor has he unsealed his records (he’s spent over $3million in taxpayer dollars to keep them sealed). His first EO was sealing his own records). He has staunchly refused to allow us to see his records, and tells us to, instead, rely on heresay and his phoney bios.

      There is so much fishy about this guy that it’s really stinking now. Investigators have defied death threats to get the truth out, and they continue to be the ones villified for their trouble. However, the evidence is overwhelming, and the PROOF is solid that Obama has NO HAWAIIN BIRTH RECORDS.

      All of this aside, he is working to destroy America, and that is reason enough to have him removed. There is also a pile of dead bodies piling up of people he’s had taken out for knowing too much. In fact, he may have surpassed the pile of bodies in Hillary’s back yard.

      What you say has no credibility whatsoever. Until you give equal and objective attention to the evidence against him, your opinion is subjective and meaningless.

      • Jeff

        Name one person among the “bodies” you attribute to Obama and Hillary (other than your obsession with the Vince Foster suicide). Your saying it does not make it true (in fact, the opposite is more likely). Who are these mysterious martyrs?

        We heard plenty from you paranoids when Vince Foster committed suicide. Gordon Liddy had absolute proof the Clintons had him killed. Funny how the “proof” never materialized.

      • Kate8

        Jeff – Here’s the one for Hillary:

        http://etherzone.com/body.html

        It seems I may have deleted the one on Obama’s body count. I’ll see if I can find it, or if he had it taken down already.

        • Jeff

          Kate:

          I read your Hillary Death Watch. Where is the evidence she or Bill had anything to do with any of the deaths, a number of which involved plane crashes? Are you suggesting a massive conspiracy in which saboteurs/assassins were sworn to secrecy? Sounds pretty far-fetched to me. How many conspiracies involving more than 2 people ever last more than a very short time? Even the Mafia’s omerta was broken!

          I know. The Illuminati. It’s been going on for centuries and the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers are behind everything bad that’s ever happened. It started with a grain of truth magnified a thousand-fold by antisemitic paranoia.

          The only conspiracy theory I was ever tempted to believe was the JFK assassination because none of the “single shooter” theories adequately explained Jack Ruby. I still think Ruby hasn’t been explained, but I recognize that’s hardly evidence of a conspiracy to accuse Nixon, LBJ, Castro or whoever else you might want to blame. It’s just a recognition of the imperfection of the Warren Report.

          But this Hillary business. There aren’t even accusations, let alone evidence. Most successful politicians know a lot of people. Some of them die by suicide or accident. Look at what happened to Gary Condit because of the Chandra Levy killing. He “knew” her and paid the price even though he had nothing to do with her death.

        • Jeff

          I also read the “comment” from JeffH about Obama’s “victims.” How is it Fox News, even Glenn Beck, missed this? Could it be too unreliable for even those irresponsible journalistic outlets?

      • JeffH

        Kate8, like this one?

        Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up – Obama’s allegedly gay sexual relationship(s) with Donald Young, Larry Bland and Nate Spencer whom he became aquainted with through Wright’s church.

        In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:
        -Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;
        -Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;
        =Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007.

        The story about President Barack Obama’s bi-sexual past will not go away. Now, in an exclusive interview with The Globe, Norma Jean Young, the 76-year old mother of the late Trinity United Church of Christ choir director Donald Young, has spoken out and declared that persons trying to protect Obama murdered her son at the height of the 2007 Democratic presidential primary to protect Obama from embarrassing revelations about his homosexual relationship with her son. Donald Young’s bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying.

        http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up/

      • Dan Hobaugh

        IWOW.All i know is i dont know and you dont know and i dont think anybody knows.you know.

    • Elaine

      One reason it won’t be put to rest is that he himself claimed foreign status for college aide. Whatever the case is, he knows how to lie and manipulate to work the system. He came by it honestly with his grandmother’s help to get him a CT social security number owned by a man who had died in HI where she had access to his death info.

    • Kate8

      It’s weird. I was only a short time ago that there was a video listing all of the deaths of people who were threats to Obama. I know I saved it, and I emailed it to some friends. Now, it is not in my saved list, not in my sent box, and it seems to have disappeared off the net. Hmmmmmm. Seems to be happening quite a bait lately.

      At any rate, this article has a list of deaths which have been attributed to Obama.

      http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1854/214/BREAKING:_Obama_Enemies_List_Candidates_Dying_Off_One_at_a_Time.html

      • Elaine

        I know. That is strange.

        I had seen a wmv of BHO telling the IL senators that he knew he wasn’t a citizen, but “after all, I’m not running for the presidency”. It’s disappeared and I can’t find it in my files, either.

        • Jeff

          It’s the same one where he admitted to being a Marxist murderer.

          • Elaine

            He wouldn’t be that at all. They’re both on the same side, which is destruction of people’s liberties and possessions.

            I guess this is the only thing that you feel worthwhile at, posting ignorant remarks.

  • David A Deal

    JefH – Ben is the furthest thing from a comedian and his alleged humor is nothing more than disinformation propoganda.

    • Palin16

      David Deal, I was born in Hawaii and my birth certificate looks a lot different than Obama’s supposed BC. Mine has a lot more information on it such as father’s and mother’s addresses, number of pregnancies of mother, etc. In addition, Obama’s certificate has been shown to be a fake photoshopped document. In 1961, when he was born, the certificates were typed with old fashioned typewriters, instead of with our modern computer keyboards. It has been shown that all of the fonts were created with an exact equal finger pressure. This is virtually impossible on an old typewriter.As for newspaper birth accounts, anyone can phone in announcement, even after having recently arrived in Hawaii.

      • Kate8

        Palin16: http://www.latenightinthemidlands.com/profiles/blogs/obama-s-kenyan-birth-records-discovered-in-british-national-archi

        It doesn’t really matter where he was born at this point. He is an enemy agent.

      • Dave67

        Once more for the loons here…

        Great debunking by Doc Conspiracy showing the flat out lies of Zullo

        http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/…-lie/#comments

        I have debunked so much demonstrably false “birther evidence” that I sometimes lose perspective about levels of “bunk” and levels of “demonstrable.” Based on the reactions of others, I may have done something last year that applies to something high on the “bunk” scale today as well as high on the “demonstrable” scale amounting to what Joe Biden might call a BFD, and the smoking gun showing the Cold Case Posse fabricated evidence and lied.

        Mike Zullo and Sheriff Joe Arpaio, presented their final (one hopes) investigative report yesterday (July 17). Their latest “evidence” that Obama’s long-form birth certificate is a fake is stated succinctly:

        The race of Barack Obama’s father is shown as “African” on the birth certificate, but next to that is a penciled number “9” that indicates “not stated.” The code is wrong, proving that the form is a fake.

        Of course, when I heard the stuff about the “9” I knew Zullo was way off track. I wrote an article last March about the race code on the form in my article, Decoding the long form (Part 2). You see, when the long form came out in April of 2011, I searched for a definitive answer to what the penciled notations meant. In my days in public health, I had occasion to do quite a lot of searching for specification documents at the CDC and I know my way around its sites and subdirectories pretty well. What I found is that the most recent coding specifications published were for 1968 (see index). The document is the Natality Tape File for Calendar Year 1968. Being intimately familiar with vital statistics in my former job, I knew that specifications change every few years, and that I could not rely on 1968 specifications to read 1961 data.

        Being a careful investigator, and not one to jump to conclusions too often, I filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on May 2, 2011, with the Department of Health and Human services for the 1961 specifications document. I received my response to request 11-00673 in August of 2011 and subsequently scanned it and made Tape File Information 1960-1961 natality Tape Files for the United States available on this web site, and today I uploaded it to Scribd. The document is also embedded at the end of this article.

        What we know from viewing the Cold Case Posse video is that Zullo used the 1968 tape layout manual and based his entire argument on how “not stated” was coded in 1961 with a “9”. The problem is that in 1961, code “9” represented “other nonwhite.” One might have excused this as a mistake, a bit of sloppy research from someone not qualified in the field, but the video repeatedly stated that the image they showed was from the 1961 manual, when it was not. Here is a screen shot from the Cold Case Posse video that the narrator describes as the “1961 vital statistics instructions manual.”

        ———————————————————————

        Kate8 says Obama is an enemy agent… If Obama is an enemy agent, then so was Reagan, Bush 2, Clinton…

      • Palin16

        Thank you Kate. I’ve read all your links. Scarey stuff. The only path to victory I can see for Obummer is to let all the illegal immigrants vote.

      • http://naver sook young

        Sorry Dave, but that seems to be a liberal/atheist site and is not trustworthy for information. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Palin16

        Dave 67,
        All you have done is copy and paste the same false information about Obummer’s birth certificate. As I mentioned above, I was born in Hawaii and my birth certificate has more information than the one provided by Barack Hussein Obama. If you know anything about photoshop, you know documents are created in layers. A typewritten certificate (as in 1961) should have unequal finger strokes as, for example, your index finger is generally stronger than your baby finger and gives a harder force.On the other hand, a computer-generated certificate would all be done with the exact same force. Barack Hussein Obama’s is the latter.

    • http://naver sook young

      I find Ben to be very funny, but I guess liberals have no sense of humor. Here is a funny video about Obama.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=146t_nrySg4

      Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Kate8

        sook young – In order for them to find Ben funny they would have to comprehend what he’s talking about.

      • Elaine

        (sook young says:
        July 22, 2012 at 11:21 pm

        I find Ben to be very funny, but I guess liberals have no sense of humor. Here is a funny video about Obama.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=146t_nrySg4)

        Ooooh!! Another one bites the dust. Anything that puts him in a bad light just keeps disappearing? Think we’re being monitored? :-)

        • Jeff

          You mean Fox News, AM radio, and this blog all disappeared? Well, if it happened, our collective IQ would go way up.

  • Karolyn

    Just an off-topic post: I received a letter from George Soros today in support of the Drug Policy Alliance against the “war on drugs.” I would be interested to know how this position equates with his supposed support of the status quo and the NWO? Wouldn’t’ a communist/socialist/whatever support the war on drugs? This is confusing.

    • Kate8

      Karolyn – Not really. The elites fund both sides of every issue, every war, both parties.

      The idea is to keep the wars going, and the people confused.

      If you people would do your homework and learn all that’s available, you’d know these things. Instead, you just close your eyes to all but what you want to see.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – Seriously, what good does it do? If I believed everything you do, I would be on antidepressants or in a mental hospital. I am much more informed than ever before in my life,primarily because of my age and the fact that the older we get the more aware we become. However, I prefer to spend the years I have left as happy as I can, not focusing on how bad everything is and how evil so many are.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Well, I’m sorry you are so weak minded that you cannot bear the truth, and have to believe in lies in order to continue your life.

        So, since we cannot count on your to help spread the truth (information is our greatest hope), then you will have a few brave souls to thank should your sorry b*tt be saved…and only yourself to blame if we all go down.

        I have always preferred knowing the truth, no matter what it is, to living in delusion. Knowing one’s enemy is strength. Hiding your head in the sand only gets your behind kicked when you don’t expect it.

        Believe it or not, fear evaporates when the veil goes down. Secrecy has been the NWO’s greatest weapon, because they need our cooperation in order to succeed.

        Seeing clearly comes before determination. But if being just another of the hapless herd suits you, then it’s your call.

        • Jeff

          Kate:

          What does Jesus tell you about military assault rifles?

      • http://naver sook young

        He did tell his disciples to purchase swords, Jeff. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

      • Kate8

        Jeff – What kind of idiotic remark is that?

        Obviously your are of the opinion that only government and criminals should have assault rifles.

        The purpose of owning guns is not for hunting and/or recreation. It is for protection against government. If they are the only ones with the big guns, then we are utterly helpless against them.

        It is impossible to discuss the Lord with someone who has never known Him, and does not want to.

        • Jeff

          Your assault rifle will protect you from the Government? I think not. If you have a gun, it is far more likely to be a source of pain than protection. Wait until your kid gets hold of the gun. You can join the chorus of parents: “I told that kid not to take that gun and shoot up the school!”

          Criminals have such weapons because they are generally available. They don’t get their weapons from a special company. They steal them or buy them at gun shows. They can’t buy what isn’t available.

      • CZ52

        “Criminals have such weapons because they are generally available.”

        Are you really that stupid Jeff? Or are you just a paid shill for the administration and any gun control group you can get a few dollars out of. Assualt rifles are NOT generaly available as you put it. An assualt rifle is classified as a machine gun and as such is very strictly controlled. You cannot just walk into a gun store and purchase an assualt rifle. You have to get a class III license to own one plus several other steps before you can buy it. Last I heard it takes about 6 monthsw to do all the paperwork and jump through all the hoops before you can take posession of your Assualt rifle. After all that plus the expense you won’t leave it lying around where it can be easily stolen.

      • JeffH

        CZ52, yes he is! It’s also permanent and can’t be fixed…it’s forever!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

  • Clif C.

    We need Jesus more than ever before. Too bad alot of the so called Pastors are sold out I hear.

    • Jeff

      To which Jesus are you referring? The actual Jesus who was in the Biblical tradition of Hillel, et. al. or the one usurped by the right wing as the God of All Things Republican (pre-emptive wars, tax cuts, assault weapons, etc.)?

      As Gandhi said, “I very much like your Jesus. Your Christians, not so much.” [I'm sure the quote is not precise but it's pretty close.]

      • Kate8

        Jeff – No. The one Who abides in our hearts and draws us to the Father.

      • http://naver sook young

        “God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”

        The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man.”

        Thomas Jeffersom
        Jefferson Memorial

        “I am a true Christian, that is to say, a follower of the doctrines of Jesus.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        If Thomas Jefferson knew who God and Jesus were, why don’t you? The door to his house is always open and they (God and Jesus) are always there. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          And what do those doctrines include?
          Love thy neighbor; turn the other cheek.
          Where’s the part about tax cuts, pre-emptive war, rendering unto the Koch Brothers, closing the EPA, etc., etc.

          I can see no possible reconciliation between the message of Jesus and the Republican message of individual and corporate greed.

          • http://naver sook young

            I don’t see how Obama Care, raising taxes, NDAA, siding with illegals over Americans, and many other things have to do with the doctrines of God and Jesus. Tax cuts? Two declared wars, and the other things you have stated are irrelevent. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            In God we still trust.

      • Kate8

        Jeff – There has never been a more scandalous person than BHO, yet you won’t even acknowledge that he is anything other than perfection.

        At least Newt’s history is there for all to see. He hasn’t sealed anything.

        How does trashing other politicians change the fact that BHO has a very dark history and covers it up, and the media helps him?

        Until you are willing to air Obama’s dirty laundry, you have no credibility attacking anyone else. You are just another cheap hypocrit.

        And BTW, your cheap shots at Christians only shows how low and nasty you are willing to go. You show who it is that you serve. Knock yourself out. But to continue your snide remarks toward those you know nothing about demonstrates what a small-minded and miserable little piece of work that you are.

        Really. Is that the best you’ve got? When you have nothing of substance, just attack, ridicule and marginalize.

        You are a bit late on the scene, Jeffy. We know well the Alinsky tactics and why you do them. You, like your cohorts, are selling your soul for a few bucks acting as a shill for something you obviously aren’t very smart about. IOW, you are a tool.

        You might think you are being very clever, but all you really are is a lost cause.

  • Elaine

    JeffH says:
    July 22, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Elaine & Kate8, there are reports from theater patrons that there may have been a second person involved in the shooting. One witness said that the tear gas cannister was thrown into the theater opposite of where the shooter entered.

    Thanks, JeffH.

    And Kate8,

    There are plenty listening. But there are too many illegals being brought here, and without voter ID requirements, they will be able to get away with voting again. Their votes can still be contested, however, if you suspect they aren’t citizens. And a citizen has to know some English to get their citizenship.

    • Jeff

      Talk about a non-sequitur!

    • Kate8

      Elaine – Yes, the Left likes to appeal to illegals, the dead, cartoon characters and animals.

      There is actually an even more sinister reason for flooding the US with people from other countries and third world cultures: they do not value our American principles of liberty, self-accountability and our way of life generally. In fact, many of them have been taught to hate us, and come here to outnumber us.

      When there are enough people who don’t value liberty and our Constitution, we are sitting ducks for overthrow.

  • http://naver sook young

    Here is one about how Pelosi seems to be in a panic. Eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww! Her picture does not look good at all.

    http://www.clashdaily.com/2012/07/is-pelosi-in-a-panic/

    Thank you.

    Sook Young
    Wife of the Samurai

    In God we still trust.

    P.S. Where are the usual people like eddie, denniso, JON, and others?

    • Elaine

      Ewwwww is right!!! Some photographer did a good job of portraying her.

    • Palin16

      OMG it’s not even halloween yet. That’s got to be the ugliest picture of Pigosi I’ve ever seen.

  • chuckb

    sook youg, they probably are attending a seminar on re-electing barry, without grounds.

    • Kate8

      chuckb – No doubt they either got different jobs or changed their names. All of the trolls sound pretty much the same.

      Maybe because they ARE the same! :)

    • http://naver sook young

      You are right Chuck B. They probably are and Kate 8, they have changed their names. There is a very little man who follows after my husband on these threads like some little puppy dog. He has changed his name many times and does multiple postings on one thread with different names. He’s a 겁쟁이, a coward. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Kate8

        Sook Young – I am not going to ask what that means. :)

        For the life of me I don’t know why we cannot ignore them. We get sucked in every time, and it just encourages them. I mean, they get paid to sit and post all day, so what do they care.

        Have you and Samurai seen this? We need to pray, pray, pray that this is successful.

        http://americannationalmilitia.com/eu-times-us-military-reveals-coup-plan-to-topple-obama/

      • JeffH

        Kate8, “coward”.

  • http://www.longlifechoices.blogspot.com john

    Bill Maher: We all think you a fool, so why open your pie-hole and remove all doubts?

  • Karolyn

    It just seems so odd to me that so many believe that only their “side” has the “truth.” Aren’t those following the conspiracy theories like Kate and others just as much sheep as anybody else, believing what they are told by people they REALLY have no clue about getting quotes from “sources” and “insiders.” The real truth is that none of us peons knows anything, only something somebody else told us; and we believe what we want to believe.

  • Eric Jones

    Well that’s 2:41 i’ll never get back.

    • http://naver sook young

      If you don’t like the videos, then don’t watch. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Eric Jones

        How would i know i would’nt like it before i watched it?

      • http://naver sook young

        Sorry Eric, but you already have that mindset before you watch them, correct? This would mean that you won’t like anything Ben has taken the time to post. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • Elaine

    A History Lesson on Your Social Security Card
    1934 – 1980

    With the elections just a little over 3 months away you’ll soon be
    hearing some Democrats running for political office, warning how
    the Republicans want to take away the old people’s Social Security.

    Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones)
    didn’t know this it’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it.
    Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little
    history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are
    Democrat or Republican.
    Facts are Facts:
    Social Security Cards, issued in 1934, and up until the 1980s
    expressly stated the number and that card were not to be used for
    identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States
    now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the
    message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.

    When Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social Security
    (FICA) Program. He promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be completely voluntary,

    No longer Voluntary

    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first
    $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,

    Now 7.65% on the first $90,000

    3.) That the money the participants elected to put into the Program
    would be deductible from their income for tax purposes each year.

    No longer tax deductible

    4.) That the money the participants put into the independent ‘Trust
    Fund’ rather than into the general operating fund, and therefore,
    would only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program,
    and no other Government program.
    Under Johnson, another Democrat, the money was moved to The General
    Fund and Spent

    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
    as income.

    Under Clinton & Gore, Democrats, Up to 85% of your Social Security
    income can be Taxed

    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now
    receiving a Social Security check every month — and then finding
    that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we have paid already
    to the federal government to ‘put away’ for us — you may be
    interested in the following:

    Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the independent
    ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the general fund so that Congress
    could spend it?

    A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the Democratically controlled House
    and Senate.

    Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax deduction for
    Social Security (FICA) withholding?

    A: The Democratic Party.

    Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?

    A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the ‘tie-breaking’
    deciding vote as president of the Senate, while he was Vice
    President of the US.

    Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving annuity payments
    to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    A: That’s right!

    Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.

    Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65, began to receive
    Social Security payments! The Democratic Party gave these payments
    to them, even though they never paid a dime into it!

    Then, after violating the original contract (FICA), the Democrats
    turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your
    Social Security away!

    And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
    If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be
    planted and maybe changes will evolve. Maybe not, some Democrats
    are awfully sure of what isn’t so.

    But it’s worth a try.

    • Palin16

      Great post and I’d like to add to that:
      Q. How many democrats are on Mt. Rushmore?
      A. None!
      Q. How many presidents have been impeached?
      A. Two….Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, both democrats.

      • Jeff

        Both by a highly partisan Congress.

        Q. How many presidents have resigned to avoid impeachment?

        A. I think even you know the answer to this one!

        • Elaine

          That’s true. Nixon did.

      • Elaine

        Here’s another item.

        The Obama administration’s new plan to grant temporary work permits to many young, illegal immigrants who otherwise could be deported may cost more than $585 million and require hiring hundreds of new federal employees to process more than 1 million anticipated requests, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press. It would cost between $467 million and $585 million to process applications in the first two years of the program, with revenues from fees paid by immigrants estimated at $484 million, according to the plans. That means the cost to the government could range from a gain of $16 million to a loss of more than $101 million.

        Can anyone tell me when we got such a surplus of jobs that BHO should be accommodating all of the young illegals? It has nothing to do with a surplus of jobs, does it? It has to do with what Kate8 already mentioned.

        • Jeff

          Do you want to be the one to tell a 16-year-old with no memory of any other country she has to go back to Mexico?

      • Palin16

        If my parents were to rob a bank and buy a million dollar home, do you want to be the one to tell me I have to get out? As for Rushmore,President Calvin Coolidge (a Republican) wanted a democrat to be represented. He was over ruled by the sculptor, Gutzon Borglum, who chose the 4 presidents because of their role in preserving the union and expanding its territory.

        • Elaine

          You don’t say whether the ones who came here in 1900 were legal or illegal. That’s the big difference. And Palin16 is exactly right in her analogy. If someone breaks into your home illegally and stays there, am I supposed to feel guilty about asking their parents to leave so they don’t bankrupt me and my family? That’s what you and other bleeding hearts seem to think.

          Who said anything about immigrant labor? I’m assuming you’re talking about migrant workers who have green cards. I’m Texan. I know the difference.

          And who told you they don’t know much Spanish? Most likely their parents will be speaking Spanish in the home so that they are bilingual. They aren’t like the immigrants who came here LEGALLY who no longer spoke their native language because this was their home now. My neighborhood was mostly Mexican after I graduated from high school in the middle ’60′s. That was when the population exploded in TX with people going there from all over the country and from Mexico and we lost our long drawls. I still do say “riiiiiight”, though.

          Ted Kennedy and all the other rich liberals give that bs, but you never see them doing as much as what they’re asking the poorer people to do.

          BHO makes more than $100,000 a month, but they still take everything they can from the taxpayers and from their campaign funds, much of which is from our matching funds tax dollars. (They ask if you want to contribute a dollar, but they match funds regardless of how many agree, don’t they?)

          BS!!!! They couldn’t speak Spanish anymore?!!!!!!!!!!!! What a load of crock they gave your wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You’re even talking about the ones who lived ON the border!!!!!! Wow!!!! Give me my violin, PLEASE!!!!

          • Jeff

            I believe the first immigration laws were passed around 1925 to keep out the “undesirables.” They could loosely be defined as Southern Europeans, Jews, Asians – basically anyone but Western Europeans. We were a deeply racist country then, and not just against Blacks.

            During the period of major immigration (1850-1920), the spirit was more in keeping with Emma Lazarus’ famous poem. Our current nativists could definitely learn something from her.

            I have seen studies showing that Mexican immigrants assimilate at about the same rate as others. We think there’s a difference because of our proximity to Mexico and because of the ability to survive in “Spanish Ghettos” without learning English. In fact, most families progress in the same manner as Italians, Jews, etc. The first generation never really picks up the language well. The 2nd generation, whether born here or not, is bilingual. Their kids likely will speak little Spanish.

      • http://naver sook young

        My husband and I would Jeff. If they are not here legally, then we need to have them return to their place of origin. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          So, I guess you think Rick Perry is too much of a “liberal” on this issue.

          • Elaine

            Sook, you are always so polite and sweet like the oriental people. You are such a treasure.

      • http://naver sook young

        Sorry Jeff, but I don’t know much about Governor Perry and his administration. But if they are here illegally, then they must be sent back. If I can come here legally, go through the system, stand in long lines at times, and always carry a form of identification with me, then they can do the same thing. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gary.mcaleer.10 Gary McAleer

    A mocking commentary works no reform. These times are far too serious when we consider the continued sacrifice of innocent people on some arrogant elitist’s altar of ambition whether of religion, business or politics.

    • Elaine

      I don’t understand to what you’re referring or even what you’re saying. Everything is too nebulous.

  • Elaine

    Jeff says:
    July 25, 2012 at 2:06 pm

    Do you want to be the one to tell a 16-year-old with no memory of any other country she has to go back to Mexico?

    ~~~~~~
    That’s supposed to be the job of INS, isn’t it? But their jobs have essentially been hogtied as far as Mexico goes. And a lot of them at that age are anchor babies anyway, which I also think should be stopped.

    Tell me what country would let a 16 year old from the U.S. under the same circumstances to remain in that country? And while you’re at it, tell me what benefits Mexico would grant to a U.S. citizen who had gone there illegally?

    And tell me why everyone seems to think that we’re supposed to be supporting the world? That’s what all of this amounts to, isn’t it?

    Do you have children, or do you ever intend to have children? You place more value on the circumstances you gave than to the welfare of your progeny for the future? And if it’s a negative to both of those questions, would it mean nothing to your other relatives, assuming you have some?

    • Jeff

      I don’t know what other countries would do. Some in Europe might welcome the person. I thought you guys believed in American Exceptionalism. I think that phrase has meaning beyond ; we’re the biggest and strongest so your rules don’t apply to us.

      • Elaine

        So that’s what you believe? That your rules don’t apply to us? Because surely you’re not telling me what I believe? I notice you wouldn’t answer the simple questions, like the future of your progeny and / or relatives being jeopardized by higher taxes, fewer jobs, fewer resources, and so on. And not only that, they often have no allegiance to this country and have the attitude that “we owe them” whatever they want, like the Obama relatives who are here illegally and can’t be gotten rid of because they are “special” because of their relationship to BHO.

        • Jeff

          I wasn’t referring to you but to some on the right who claim Obama doesn’t believe in American Exceptionalism. I think he believes in it far more than do his detractors, just in a different way. The neocon view of American Exceptionalism (Bush, Cheney, Gingrich) seems to be that we are the biggest so we make the rules for the rest of the world to follow. I think Obama recognizes, and has stated publicly, that in no other country is his story possible.

          As for the future impact of young, educated kids who came here as children, they represent the hope for this country’s future. Immigration has always been our engine and the source of our vitality. If workers in their 40s would like to retire in 15 or 20 years, they will need lots of younger people still working. Immigration is an important source of that vitality.

          Nativist beliefs go way back – at least to the middle of the 19th century when Irish and German immigrants started coming here. Then, a generation later, the Italians, Jews, and many Eastern Europeans. We now look back on that as “good” immigration because many of those people were our great grandparents. But those already here saw them as swarthy, unAmerican, dangerous, probably criminals.

          Mexican families that come here and stay are as committed to being Americans as any European family that came here in 1900. They are here because the economy invited them here. You can call them “illegals” but the law fails to recognize economic realities. Are you going to pick the crops?

          • Elaine

            Thanks for that explanation, but I can’t believe your saying that the young of Mexico offer the future for America!!!!!!

            Yes. Immigration has always been a part of our heritage, but we have immigration laws for a variety of reasons. During the depression, illegals had to be sent back and that should be true now since we’re in the throes of some of the greatest unemployment we’ve been in since the depression of the ’30′s.

            And tell me what happens when our citizens have to be bilingual in order to get a job, because that’s going on now. If it’s gong on in a state like SC for the construction jobs, you know it has to be going on in TX and other border states.

            Do you not understand that our citizens are not on a level playing field when it comes to getting jobs? Illegals aren’t usually paid as much as a citizen so they are often hired under the table with wages and SS going towards other family members of the business employers. And this was being done more than 20 years ago.

            And the border state citizens have their ID stolen more than the interior states. Do you know that for more that 20 years, Social Security has been telling citizens that they have to get a new SS # because they can’t tell who had the # first? BS!!! They can break your earnings out into the new card they make you take, but they can’t tell who’s been contributing the shortest length of time?

            States are going to have to make English the official language to keep the bilingual requirement in the future. As I understand it, MO has English as the official language now.

            Have you ever lived in a border state or one that had a lot of immigrants coming in illegally like NY or FL?

            And these states are often going bankrupt because the government imperialists, like BHO, won’t do anything about the added expenses or about their being there.

          • Jeff

            Elaine:

            I think you’re confusing immigrant labor with kids who have lived essentially their entire lives here and are every bit as much Americans as an Italian or Jewish immigrant who came here at age 2 in 1900. They go to school, sometimes do very well in school, and may qualify to get into good schools. They often discover their status only when they try to get a license or apply to school. They know nothing of Mexico and, in some cases, don’t speak a lot of Spanish. You want them forced to “return” to Mexico?

            I live near the border. In fact, my wife taught at the border for 10 years (middle school). When she started there, many of the kids spoke no English; some crossed the border daily. It was very fluid with kids’ parents living there and grandparents living there, so border crossing for them became second nature. I’m sure some were illegal, but they all acted like American kids. By the time she left that school, a lot of the kids spoke no Spanish.

            I think you’ve been listening to a lot of fear-mongering from the right. May I assume you used to have a different political perspective? I don’t like the way companies hire illegals and then treat them badly. It’s why I don’t really like the “guest worker” idea. I think the minimum wage is low enough and should apply to everyone. The sobering fact in all this is that the real beneficiary of the immigration system is the employer. The value of the illegal alien to the employer is that he’s illegal and won’t complain about being mistreated. Just food for thought.

  • Elaine

    Another change in our country.

    The soldiers who wake up in Walter Reed Medical Center are in Maryland — not communist China. But under the Navy’s new rules, they may not know the difference! After months of peeling away the military’s core values, Obama’s army is on the move. And this time, it has a high-value target: the Bible. In a memo obtained by FRC, Navy officials have announced that “no religious items (including Bibles, reading material, and/or artifacts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” The new orders are buried in a four-page document about patient care, which an Army officer forwarded to us in disbelief. Effective immediately, families, friends, and even pastors will have to check their beliefs at the door to visit one of the largest military hospitals in the United States . Last night, after we circulated the memo to leaders on the Hill, an outraged Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) took to the House floor and blasted the policy. “Mr. Speaker, these military men and women who are recovering at Walter Reed and Bethesda have given their all for America … They’ve defended and taken an oath to the Constitution, and here they are. The people that come to visit them can’t bring a religious artifact? They can’t bring a Bible? … A priest can’t walk in with the Eucharist and offer communion to a patient who might be on their deathbed because it’s prohibited in this memo from the Department of the Navy?”

    This is Obama’s military,.

    After three years of ideological warfare, the administration’s intent is clear: to disarm the military of its biggest weapon. Faith. Regardless of President Obama’s agenda, there is absolutely nothing in the Constitution that empowers the government to stop family members from giving Bibles or crosses to their loved ones. And from a PR standpoint, I’m not sure the best way to boost approval ratings is by denying comfort to wounded warriors. Unfortunately for our troops, who have endured so much turmoil under the Obama administration, this is another blow. Hopefully, with the help of Congressman King and others, it’s only a temporary one.

    • Jeff

      I have just one question: Did Texas seem like a smarter place when W was in Washington? The troops went through no upheaval with President Huh? on the job? For Bush supporters to criticize Obama – now that takes some real chutzpah!

      • Palin16

        Jeff, since you’re relatively new here, maybe you should know…none of us “old timers” at Personal Liberty are Bush supporters. Or as Samurai would say “Bush! Baaa!! Cheney! Baaaaaaa!”

    • Elaine

      I’m sorry that I didn’t give credit to the source I got this from. I’m certainly not smart enough to write that synopsis. It was a news report and if anyone comes across it, I wish they’d credit the real author.

      Elaine

  • Elaine

    CLICK here: U.S. Bridges, Roads Being Built by Chinese Firms | Video – ABC News

    Trying to get jobs for Americans?

  • Elaine
  • Palin16

    I’m wondering if Barack Hussein Obama will need his dual teleprompters when he gives his consession speech on November 7.

    • http://naver sook young

      So he would need a second one for just in case his first one didn’t work? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Jeff

        Why do you guys always bring up the teleprompter? Because Obama knows how to read from one and gives a good speech? What politician DOESN’T use one? Apparently, you preferred the stumbling, stammering W. What about the sainted Reagan? You think he didn’t use a teleprompter? Is no joke involving Obama too lame for you twits to laugh at?

      • Palin16

        Jeff, you didn’t answer the question. Do you think Barack Hussein Obama will use a teleprompter to give his concession speech?

        • Jeff

          I’ll answer as Mitt Romney:

          Ladies and gentlemen, I fully support the 1st amendment to our great Constitution.

      • Palin16

        That’s good to hear Jeff. I’m glad you approve of the free speech rights of Chick-Fil-A’s CEO.

        • Jeff

          And of the Dixie Chicks as well.

      • http://naver sook young

        And of Rush Limbaugh. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • Elaine

    Jeff says:
    July 25, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    I believe the first immigration laws were passed around 1925 to keep out the “undesirables.” They could loosely be defined as Southern Europeans, Jews, Asians – basically anyone but Western Europeans. We were a deeply racist country then, and not just against Blacks.

    I have seen studies showing that Mexican immigrants assimilate at about the same rate as others. We think there’s a difference because of our proximity to Mexico and because of the ability to survive in “Spanish Ghettos” without learning English. In fact, most families progress in the same manner as Italians, Jews, etc. The first generation never really picks up the language well. The 2nd generation, whether born here or not, is bilingual. Their kids likely will speak little Spanish.
    .
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    That last paragraph is finally telling the truth. That’s not what you said before and you know it. In other words, you are one of those who twist the truth to suit themselves. You’ve shown who and what you are, Jeff.

    The laws are also to prevent people coming over to get on welfare and SS. They’re also supposed to keep out the unlawful, such as terrorist. Our country is making us go through all kinds of pat downs and everything at airports, but illegals don’t even have to be sent back under this administration.

    And when our economy is imploded from within, which it very nearly is now, those same illegals are going to be on an even greater advantage to getting jobs, as they already are, or don’t you realize that?

    I know now that you realize a lot of things that you won’t tell for the sake of your “precious Obama” being re-elected. And the weight of the future of our country’s fall will be on your shoulders to a HUGE degree, because you’ve shown that you’ll stop at nothing in your lies.

    • Jeff

      Elaine:

      I’m getting sick of trying to communicate with a bunch of narrow-minded, paranoid, xenophobic creeps. You seemed a bit different, but I see I was wrong. What is it with you guys and the accusation of “lying” every time someone has a different point of view? That may fly on AM radio, but I don’t think you’d say that face-to-face. Believe what you want to believe. People don’t come here to work but to collect welfare and commit suicide bombings. Meanwhile, every lunatic has an assault weapon because your precious NRA has everyone so cowed they’ve agreed to read the 2nd amendment like they’re in 8th grade. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

      • Palin16

        Jeffieboy,
        if you’re so sick of us, you can do the same thing that liberal lunatics like edduh47, dumnisso, and eyesgluedshut did before you…move on to Moveon or Huffpost. Of course I realize hanging out with all those libtards and occupiers might get a bit boring.

      • http://naver sook young

        Thank you for giving an accrate description of the typical liberal/progressive. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife if the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Elaine

          Yeah, Sook Young. I’d been trying to say that, but you just turned it around on them. You did so much better. :-)

  • Elaine

    You really need to listen to this Cancer Doctor. What she has to say is important.

    THIS IS SHORT AND RIGHT TO THE POINT.
    This is a great video,unfortunately it has only a bit over 15,000 views.
    I hope it goes viral and gets perhaps 148 MILLION views.
    Dr. Jill Vecchio Blasts SCOTUS Ruling Upholding ObamaCare Mandate

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6e3udzHIiVs

    A peril to women’s health!

  • Elaine

    By the time she left that school, a lot of the kids spoke no Spanish.

    The first generation never really picks up the language well. The 2nd generation, whether born here or not, is bilingual. Their kids likely will speak little Spanish.

    I’m sure you see the difference in these 2 statements. In the first, you were trying to lay a guilt trip saying they spoke no Spanish after 10 years, even though they were part of a fluid transmigration back and forth between parents in the U.S. and grandparents in Mexico, or vice versa. Being in a border town alone would have made that nearly impossible.

    Now in the 2nd, you said that it’s 2 generations before they speak very little Spanish. So, yes, in the first guilt trip inducing statement, your intent was outright deception at best and you very well know that.

    And their immigration benefits the employers instead of them? They why do they come? Why is it that the Mexican government reps went to AZ to protest their laws when they first went out? Because Mexico gets a lot of that money that they send home for their relatives. 22 years ago, it was the 3rd or 4th largest source of income for Mexico. Drugs may have pushed that down now.

    Food for thought as to how they’re tread upon by the employers? Actually, some go through much worse than that. Some go into the human slave trade. This would be another reason to stop illegal immigration. I feel so sorry for those poor young people who wind up being taken as slaves for either sweat shops or the sex trade industry. Some are even held in bondage as servants. A lot of social injustices are going on. And the neglect of illegal immigration doesn’t help any of them very much.

    • Jeff

      And Jews and Italians are all in organized crime and the Irish are all drunks. I’m sure you can keep this going ad infinitum. Must you tar everyone with such a broad brush?

      • Elaine

        You are such a pathetic, raving, shill. You even have to try to pretend you know how someone thinks in order to besmirch them. :-) You think you’re so smart because you’re used to lying and manipulating people. When these types of people are exposed, they have to choice but to act like they’re in the right.

        I’ve had plenty of experience with your kind of tirade. You even pull numbers out of the air and change rules when someone is able to find you wrong. :-) So funny. :-)

        I couldn’t find one example of a mass murderer who was shot in a shoot out was your challenge. One was all I looked for. But then there are 20 a year!! Since 1966, that would have been 920 minimum. They aren’t that common, which is why the news sensationalizes them so much.

        Just one “exaggeration” after another.

        This message really isn’t to communicate with you, Jeff. It’s to show any non-suspecting what they need to look for in a shill.

      • http://naver sook young

        Here is something about how Obama could be connected to the shootings in Colorado.

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/obama-indirectly-tied-to-the-colorado-massacre/

        Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          If you think that video is even remotely accurate, I pity you. I lived through that era and can tell you the anti-war movement was, first and foremost, about ending the war. People in favor of continuing the slaughter in Viet Nam regularly spoke of the “Gooks” and how they placed a different value on life from that of Christian White people. That view justified the burning of villages, napalming the country, the extraordinary tonnage of bombs dropped – all in a ridiculous, impossible cause.

          Plus, it contains the Glenn Beck paranoia about “social justice.” Isn’t social justice one of the objects of religion. Now, we’re told by the right that social justice = socialism and only religions that exalt vultures like Romney are true religions. What utter hokum.

          Breitbart? That liar? The guy behind the doctored videos? You’ve got to be kidding me!

          I’d say the connection between Obama and Aurora is not only INDIRECT; it is entirely fictional. About as believable as a Nazi propaganda movie blaming the Allies for WWII.

        • Elaine

          Thanks for that link, Sook Young. I’d never seen any of the films on OWS. I can’t imagine why the police weren’t there arresting them since they were obviously destroying property. I’ve seen peaceful demonstrations where the police were arresting people for a lot less.

      • Elaine

        And isn’t the hypocrisy of people like Jeff so ridiculous while he rants about people who don’t agree with one philosophy being so closed minded that they have to tar everyone with a broad brush when he’s the only one doing that. I think his rantings sound more like those of a mad man. It seems like he has some anger management issues at best.

        • Jeff

          It was meant as a parody of your post linking every Mexican to terrorism, welfare, younameit.

          • Elaine

            I never linked every Mexican to terrorism. You’re doing what you accused Breitbart of doing, which is changing things to suit your agenda. I think you’re so closed-minded and infantile, you’re not worth listening to.

            BTW, I’ve never been liberal. I just think for myself, like most conservatives, so you really can’t say what any of us thing. We’re all individuals instead of puppets.

      • Palin16

        I’ll take Breitbart’s news over Rachel Madcow’s anyday.

        • Jeff

          I understand that Breitbart shared your biases, but he was not honest. Rachel Maddow shares her opinions, but she deals in the world of fact, not made up nonsense to further her agenda!

      • http://naver sook young

        As my husbad would say, “The persona attack. Classic liberal strategy.” I would rather listen to Fox News than Rachel Maddow. She tends to be very left and never speaks the truth. This says something about your closed liberal mindset. The MSM have no agenda? Hee, heee, hee, hee! Are you sure about that? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          Wife Of:

          Why doesn’t your husband say it, then? Clearly, you have problems with the language. I never said Rachel Maddow or MSNBC (I don’t know about MSM) has no agenda. I said she deals in facts, not fiction designed to further her agenda. Her agenda is shown by the stories she chooses to cover. You can disagree with her, but she does not misrepresent facts or used cleverly-edited video to show someone saying the opposite of what was clearly intended. That was the stock-in-trade of the dearly departed Mr. Breitbart and appears to be the modus operandi of the Romney campaign.

          • Clif C.

            Did Obama have a buddy named Ayers who is an unrepentant weatherman bomber and socialist? Strange bedfellows.

          • Jeff

            How do you define “buddy?” And what about all the Republicans who have “buddied up” with the White Citizens Councils in the South, knowing they were just euphemisms for the KKK? Guilt by association can be a two-edged sword. Ever hear that politics makes strange bedfellows? If you’re going to define someone’s career based on an isolated political association, you’ll likely be very wrong.

          • Clif C.

            True enough Jeff but does not the body count of witnessess to negative things that could effect the people that put Obama in power disturb you as it does me?

          • Jeff

            No. If there were even a shred of evidence tying Obama to anything criminal it would be on the front page of every newspaper in the country.

          • Clif C.

            Not in the controlled mainstream media.

          • Jeff

            Oh please. With Fox News, AM radio, etc., etc. there are far more right wing outlets than left. Most newspapers’ editorial pages are right wing even if a lot of the reporters are liberals. Had they been conservatives, they would have become MBAs like Romney instead of journalists. Still, there are plenty of conservative “reporters.”

          • http://naver sook young

            That is so very true Clif C. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            In God we still trust.

          • Clif C.

            (Click here for your Summer 2012 Trends Journal)

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            On the geopolitical front, Syria is at war, and it won’t stop at its borders. Following the tourist bus bombing in Bulgaria that killed five Israelis, war talk is heating up as Israel and the US pin the blame on Hezbollah and Iran. Austerity-burdened, economically depressed Spaniards are taking to the streets by the hundreds of thousands and angry Americans are rioting in Anaheim.

            And they’re not alone: “When people lose everything and have nothing left to lose, they lose it.” And in cities of Bahrain, Egypt, Yemen, Greece – in a country near you – people are losing it!

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            Comments
            •The most ominous trend would come from Mr. Obama being re-elected. I know that Mr. Celente thinks the two parties are the Gambinos and Bonanos, two branches of the same fetid tree. But, I disagree and see distinctions between the two parties becoming ever-more clear due to the rebellion on the fringes of both. On the Democrat side, the communist crazies are taking ever-more control. On the Republican side, the Tea Party conservatives are doing the same. In this battle between the communists and the conservatives, only one side stands for freedom – the conservatives. Somehow the Democrats have been embracing radical islamism and are now blinded to its threat to the American way of life (at least of old). I see clear differences and I forecast that even Mr. Celente will begin to change his mind when the coming American insurrection driven by Mr. Obama and his private army in the communist-run OWS movement begin the drive to destroy America.

            CharlesBenninghoff on July 28th, 2012 at 4:09 pm
            •You are reading too much newspeak my friend. Mr. Celente is right in his observations, and I hate to say it but amerika is already destroyed. The ministry of truth is nothing but propaganda my friend. Democracy is the illusion of choice:)

            jmcarp98 on July 28th, 2012 at 4:32 pm
            •I agree, there is nothing conservative about blowing people to kingdom come. Both parties are have sold us out. We must be neutral and get back to our roots- non intervention. When sanity returns we may have a chance to rebuild.

            God Bless

          • Jeff

            Where was this analysis before the selection of W as President?

          • Jeff

            You are kidding with this, right? Nobody can be that deluded. President W nearly destroyed the world’s economy and Romney wants a W Redux in Spades. Talk about deluded. Calling Democrats Communists is not a substitute for analysis or for thinking. Romney wants to cut his taxes even further, wants to increase our already-bloated military budget so we can invade Iran, AND he’s going to balance the budget. And I’m the Wizard of Oz!!!

      • Palin16

        We have one of your liberal heroes, Lyndon Baines Johnson, to thank for Vietnam. LBJ:
        “Make me President and I’ll give you boys a damn good war.”Joint Chiefs and CIA: “You got it, Mr. Vice-President.” (wink, wink).

      • Palin16

        “Now where’s them damn dogs so I can pickem up by their ears?”….LBJ

  • Clif C.

    Divide and conquer.

  • Texlina

    I’m totally in the dark. What’s the NWO sign and what’s it supposed to mean?????

  • Elaine

    Texlina,

    It’s those 2 fingers spread out over the left eye. As to what it means, I don’t know, I’d never known that was their sign until this topic post.

  • Elaine

    I just got the following e-mail from a TX cousin:

    “Subject: True Story from Austin, Texas – 7/18/12

    It’s generally conceded that Austin is the most liberal city in Texas, maybe
    the whole U.S. It is not referred to as The People’s Republic of Austin for
    nothing.

    Austin welcomed Obama yesterday to speak before a group, reported to be
    about 1,300 people, of gay and lesbian supporters, in a fund raising effort.
    The admission fee was publicized, pre-event, to be from $750 to $7,500, per
    head. The media showed folks lined up for “a quarter of a mile” in order to
    be with the President. The Austin police were out in force in preparation
    for huge crowds, downtown, to see the President’s motorcade as it passed up
    Congress Avenue.

    Something unusual happened.
    There were no folks to see the motorcade, except for normal downtown foot
    traffic. In order to create the illusion of mass appeal, with long lines of
    anxious people, the per head ticket price was reduced to $25.00! That’s
    right: $25.00 The pitch was made to college students, of which we have about
    100,000 in Austin. 1,300 folks showed up!

    I so hope that this same display of enthusiasm will be reflected
    in the November election.”

    • Clif C

      Ha ha ha, I’m pretty sure they said they had people lined up on obamas motercade route when he came to Ottawa the capital of Canada where I live.

      • Elaine

        So are they going to be bused over to vote?

        • Clif C.

          Imaginary people just like the imaginary Obama voters they might use to fix the election in his favour. I hear they had to reduce their per plate fees to $25.00 per plate to avoid embarassement in Austin TX. Raided the local university to get a crowd.

  • Elaine

    Sorry, Clif C. I didn’t realize the humor in that. I was up too late. :-)

  • Elaine

    Jeff says:
    July 28, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Wife Of:

    Why doesn’t your husband say it, then? Clearly, you have problems with the language.

    Jeff,

    I guess you were feigning concern over the language problems of immigrants, right? Because then you turn around and make fun of Sook who already said she was a LEGAL immigrant.

    I think she does very well. And she’s a lot more up on our economics and history than you seem to be.

    You’re just too duplicitous for words. If it fits your agenda, it’s one way; but if you can turn it around, it’s another.

    • Jeff

      She purposely and clearly misconstrued what I said in order to fit her preconceived idea. I’d say she speaks the language as well as most on this blog.

    • http://naver sook young

      Why do you make fun of my words and being a former legal resident alien? My words seem to be less misleading them yours. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • http://naver sook young

        This response ws for Jeff. Thank you

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

  • Elaine

    I didn’t see any misconstruing.

    “The persona attack. Classic liberal strategy.” This fits you to a tee.

    And, how do you know that Rachel has no agenda? You don’t know what or how she thinks or what her agenda is so you can’t say she always speaks the truth.

    Now you, I know you have an agenda and twist things. You’ve proven that so many times just in this week.

    • Jeff

      Do I really need to repeat this? I never said she had no agenda. I said she doesn’t misrepresent facts to further her agenda. There is a huge difference. Look it up.

      • http://naver sook young

        Since we both agree she has an agenda, then you must know that everything she reports is an attempt to further her agenda. She doesn’t misrepresent facts? Are you sure? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        In God we still trust.

        • Jeff

          If you think she misrepresents facts, I’d say the burden is on you to show how. I can point to hundreds of examples where Rush Fatbaugh has misrepresented facts, and now the Romney campaign is certainly off to a good start with his selective editing of Obama’s speeches. Give me an example of Rachel Maddow misrepresenting a fact to support her agenda.

          • Elaine

            And all I’m saying is that nobody really knows when a lie is told unless it just makes no sense at all like the ones you told. And you make no sense now in pressing for an example.

            But now, you talk about lies!!!!! Obama is a master at it. Nobody really even knows his name since he’s used so many. And then he said that he’d only gone by one name. One lie. So many lies. The health care bill was denied as being a tax until it went to the Supreme Court, and then they say it’s a tax. 21 separates taxes that we know of actually.
            He went to college on an international scholarship, but now he’s a citizen? He’s a Christian, but did he even swear in on a Bible?

            No saluting the flag. Apologizing for our country often. Telling the Brazilian president that he wants to pattern the U.S. after than country. But you think he loves the country? He loves his power and the money he’s taking from us to have a servant staff of more than any other ever has had and at such a great expense.

            Someone, possibly you, mentioned that Bush had taken more vacations. Bush mostly went to his ranch in TX. It wasn’t costing the exorbitant amounts that BHO and his family have been costing us.

            But you said Sook had misrepresented the facts and you didn’t say how, did you? You keep giving different rules for others than you have for yourself.

          • Jeff

            Elaine, what you’re saying is anything you don’t like is a lie. You’ve identified NOTHING but insist everyone you disagree with is lying. Go tell it to someone on the LOONEY RIGHT who might pay some attention. I’m through.

          • Elaine

            You only know how to describe yourself.

          • Jeff

            I pity your inability to see beyond your prejudices. The Dream Act was originally a conservative idea, a compromise position short of full immigration reform. The Right now wants to see it as somehow too radical. When I told you about my wife’s teaching experiences, I was in no way “excusing” the students’ language skills. I was merely stating a fact.

            If you live in constant fear of the unfamiliar, you become a shut-in. My only point in attempting communication with you is to point out that these kids raised here are American kids. You can choose to accept that fact or you can reject it, but i you reject it you are damaging yourself, not them.

            Now, you can communicate with me, knowing I think differenly from you, or you can belittle me, call me a typical (liberal, socialist, whatever). I don’t really care.

          • Elaine

            See previous post. It still goes.

            BTW, you lied about being gone. :-)

  • Elaine

    http://patriotupdate.com/26712/666-every-american-to-be-microchipped-in-2013-per-obamacare

    Every American To Be Micro-chipped In 2013 Per Obama-care

    Wednesday, July 25, 2012
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    A major news story broke on AOL and countless other mainstream news media outlets, this past week, that the Obama Health Care Bill will require all U.S. citizens and babies to receive a microchip or Med-chip by March 23, 2013. Whether or not the microchip requirement in the bill is implemented by 2013, remains to be seen.

    In 2010, my book “Are You Ready for the Microchip?” was released, and I asked the question, “Is the microchip implant hidden in the Healthcare Bill? Are newborn children starting in 2013 going to receive a microchip shortly after birth?” Then in the book, I wrote, “ In the massive US HEALTHCARE BILL, which your elected representatives voted for without reading, there is a section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521 – National Medical Device Registry which states:Continued below.

    “The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

    • Elaine

      My son explained to me that what is meant here is pacemakers and other implanted devices will be registered, which is really a good idea. This last item was an alarmist view as known at this time.

      • Jeff

        As Gilda used to say, “Never mind.”

  • Elaine

    http://patriotupdate.com/26828/white-house-plays-down-prospect-of-new-gun-laws

    White House Plays Down Prospect of New Gun Laws

    Friday, July 27, 2012
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    The White House signaled Thursday that President Barack Obama would not be seeking new gun control laws in the aftermath of the mass shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. But press secretary Jay Carney said Obama would try to find ways to work around the “stalemate” in Congress to keep firearms out of the wrong hands.

    During a brief photo-op with his Cabinet, Obama himself sidestepped a reporter’s question about how he would proceed without seeking new legislation.

    “I’m sure we’ll have more opportunity to talk about this,” the president said. (*Read- after the election.)

    Obama had called late Wednesday for tighter background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. He called for a “common sense” and repeated his support for the lapsed Assault Weapons Ban.

  • Elaine

    Jeff,

    Of course they’re American kids if they’re from Mexico. Look at your map. Mexico is in North America. That doesn’t make them U.S. citizens or patriots. They (Americans from Mexico) think we owe them.

    • http://naver sook young

      You are correct Elaine. I just wish that Jeff would try to understand what is happening to this country. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      In God we still trust.

      • Clif C.

        What’s happening to the whole world. We are all in this together with the NWO and the way it works is divide and conquer.

      • Jeff

        If, God forbid, you and Husband Of were in charge, what would you do with a kid who was brought here at age 3, has lived here her whole life and considers herself an American, has stayed out of trouble, is an honor student, and is applying to college? Just load her on a truck and dump her in the desert?

        • Elaine

          You’re like a dog with a bone. You’ve asked and it was answered several times. Sook came here LEGALLY, with all the waiting to be cleared and all the lines.

          They don’t want to wait. They pay coyotes thousands of dollars but don’t want to do it right.

          What would you do if someone comes into your house illegally and wants what you’ve worked for? Give it to them. Say here, take it all?

          • Jeff

            Are you her lawyer now? I’m through speaking with you. I’m asking about the kid specifically after he/she has spent a lifetime here. I suppose that makes no difference to you. Were you one of the people saying “let him die” when the moderator asked Ron Paul what should be done about an uninsured person who needs care? It’s easy to act like a reflexive ghoul on a blog. What about in real life?

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