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Newspaper Treats Gun Owners Like Perverts

December 27, 2012 by  

Newspaper Treats Gun Owners Like Perverts
The Journal News, based in White Plains, N.Y., published this map pinpointing local gun owners.

Thousands of Americans were shocked and angered at one New York newspaper’s attempt at Orwellian vilification of gun owners after it published an online database of gun-permit holders in its locale in the wake of the Connecticut Sandy Hook Elementary tragedy.

The Journal News, based in White Plains, N.Y., published a sensationalized gun-ownership story on Dec. 24 entitled “The gun owner next door: What you don’t know about the weapons in your neighborhood” linking legal gun-permit holders to violent crime. The newspaper collected permit information on 44,000 people in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties proclaiming that one out of every 23 adults in the area are licensed to own a handgun.

From the article:

Anyone can find out the names and addresses of handgun owners in any county with a simple Freedom of Information Law request, and the state’s top public records expert told The Journal News last week that he thinks the law does not bar the release of other details. But officials in county clerk’s offices in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam maintain the public does not have a right to see such things as the specific permits an individual has been issued, the types of handguns a person possesses or the number of guns he or she owns — whether one or a dozen.

The story quickly caught the attention of conservative news sites and media outlets and drew heavy criticism. Gun rights advocates likened the publication of a map pinpointing the location of every permit holder in the area to an attempt to portray gun owners as a societal danger like sex offenders.

“We knew publication of the database would be controversial, but we felt sharing as much information as we could about gun ownership in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings,” said CynDee Royle, editor and vice president/news told USA Today.

“People are concerned about who owns guns and how many of them there are in their neighborhoods,” she said. “Our Freedom of Information request also sought specifics on how many and what types of weapons people owned. That portion of the request was denied.”

Of note, newspaper giant Gannet Co. Inc., owns both USA Today (which published a follow-up story on the controversial gun-owner list) and The Journal News.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • cawmun cents

    If they(the journalists/communists who wrote and published this) also provide a map to their own homes,then this one is okay…otherwise every one in those communities whose rights are being trampled by these (expletetive deleteds) should make a class action lawsuit against them.

    • Harold Olsen

      I don’t remember which site it was on, but someone posted a message that they were posting online the names and address of all employes of that newspaper. Whether that person did it or not, I don’t know. I hope they did. Turnabout is fair play.

      • Karolyn

        Yes, they are being shared all over Facebook, and I am sure, everywhere else possible.

      • old hillbilly

        The unarmed list needs a bio… maybe like –
        Unarmed, unwilling to fight, against death penalty, security camera locations, utility & wireless access points & how to sever & jam it, PLUS a list of valuables & treasures available for the taking. Maybe humanize it with traits… sniveling elitist snob with beady eyes…

      • Mike in MI

        Well, now that their addresses are known why not send someone around to go through their garbage cans, recycling and such to find out what medication bottles they throw away. Test for any other substance residues that can be isolated. Then tell the neighbors what the Physicians Desk Reference (for drug reactions, dangers and warnings in case of neuroses, psychoses and overdoses) indicates may occur if that newspaper employee may get pushed over the edge into la-la land some full-moonlit night.
        Then go rent some laid-off Occupy Wall Street types (who will usually carry anybody’s protest sign for a price and scream graded obscenities, on an ascending scale) to pitch a tent and poop on the well manicured lawn.
        Hey, it works for the left.

      • Bill

        Mike in MI
        Good suggestions. We might even be able to find some liberals on the sight that want the job of harrassing those dastardly gun owners.

        So how about it, Flashy, Robert Smith and Right Brain Thinker, do you want to volenteer

    • Bruce

      And this is reason enough to not register your gun. They will share the info with everyone. And someone will figure out how to use the information against you.
      I now believe it is impossible for the government to tell the whole truth, about anything.

      • STEVE E.

        I was thinking the same thing.

      • ibcamn

        what if theive’s use this to break and enter to obtain weapons because they can’t legally buy them!wouldn’t then the paper be responsible for a mass rash of burglaries in the county?

      • eddie47d

        I hate to tell you Bruce but PLD is also the media and “whip up alot of frenzy”!

      • Average Joe

        There must be areally “special” brand of “stupid” reserved for people like eddie47d. You just can’t find his kind of stupid on the shelves……


    • Wes Thomas

      MYFEELINGS ONLY: If this reporter told where all the armed citizens are then thay know where people live that don’t have firearms. It stands to reason if I were a robber ,murderer, rapest or kidnapper I would break in to an un armed house before I would an armed person trained to carry a weapon, So by this reporters stupidity and his publisher now the crooks know who is not armed and will be an easy mark ‘Way to go you hipocritical idiots by your stupidity you may have gotten a number of innocent people killed . WAY TO GO STUPID

      • Bob

        What a disservice to those that don’t have a registered gun they are now the most obvious target to criminals. Our country is so upside down!

      • Vigilant

        Wes Thomas says, “If this reporter told where all the armed citizens are then they know where people live that don’t have firearms.”

        The report did NOT indicate “where all the armed citizens are…” It indicated only where the registered handgun owners are.

        My bet is that there are many more owners of rifles, shot guns, muzzle loaders and semi-autos than there are pistol owners. No intruder can rest easy breaking into homes where pistol owners don’t reside.

      • Sherry

        Exactly. And I wholeheartedly believe they did this because they knew it was inviting criminals to non gun owners homes-in their minds it’s be damned the children who can get raped, tortured, murdered, just as well as the adults now. I think they are hoping for gun murders to help further Obama’s push for gun control and help further his agenda, give him another excuse to grandstand himself on gun control.

      • Smilee

        Isn’t this just persons who have permits to carry and not weather or not you own a gun and keep a gun in your house, there are many homes that have guns (more actually) than homes that have permits to carry.

      • eddie47d

        i don’t agree with what the newspaper did but what is the big whoop! Gun owners continuously brag about the ability to defend themselves so now is their chance if someone comes a knocking.

      • Bill

        This was registered gun owners, not concealed carry permits

        • Smilee

          The articles I read said concealed carry permit holders

        • Wes Thomas

          Tecnocality Iwould rather know they dont have a gun if I were breaking in dont matter if its a CCP OR REGESTERED OWNERSHIP

      • Texas Ride

        Wes,you made the better point! I think this just might work out in the gun owners’ favor.
        Criminals don’t want to break-in places where the owners are armed! But the criminals can sure “check the list” and see where are the un-armed, vulnerable people live. They make must better victims because they have no protection.

    • Vigilant

      I’m truly amazed anyone would take offense to this divulgence of names. The newspaper did a favor to the handgun owners, in my mind. If even one handgun owner is ashamed to have their ownership published, then they shouldn’t have the weapon in the first place.

      By having their names published, the media is, in effect, saying that those pistol owners have taken the requisite training and have shown both their proficiency and willingness to defend their lives and property.

      I expect they are the types of persons who would say, when someone breaks into their house or threatens their lives, “let the games begin.”

      • ibcamn

        really?now your just gonna have the thieve’s sitting outside waiting for the owners to leave and then break in for the sole purpose of obtaining a firearm!does this mean you support criminal activity?b&e,etc..?your not to vigilant!

      • Vigilant

        “really [sic]? now [sic] your [sic] just gonna have the thieve’s [sic] sitting outside waiting for the owners to leave and then break in for the sole purpose of obtaining a firearm! does [sic] this mean you support criminal activity? b&e [sic],etc..? your [sic] not to [sic] vigilant!”

        And you, sir, are not too smart. Judging from your complete lack of proficiency on the English language, I would expect you to be one of the dumb criminals to do just that.

      • Mike in MI

        Naw, Vig –
        This shill’s on a quota and has no time to prove he’s either civilized or articulate or knowledgeable. He gets paid for letters on the screen. Maybe he’s got an ID sheet that indicates those errors may be “a button” for you!!
        In any case, no one with a valid h. s. diploma would call that “correspondence” or “communication”. Figure him for what he’s worth.

    • Benjamin Fox

      What makes this sad is that many homes are safer because the crooks don’t know who does or doesn’t have a gun. If any of these people get robbed or harmed in anyway they should sue this commie so called news paper for all they have. New York idiots just like the mayor or New York who is a nazi want to be.

      • Mike in MI

        Wll, one thing’s for sure. The crooks now know where the guns AREN’T, where it’s safe to go steal, pillage, rape and ruin.
        Now we all know that no self respecting liberal or democrat would ever want a WEAPON WITH A TRIGGER, especially newspaper employees.
        So… now …if you were a thief, rapist, kidnapper, pedophile or vandal out on a lark..
        whose house would you seek out to invade???..HMM-M-M-M-mm, That takes a lot of meditatin’.

    • Kinetic1

      Old Hillbilly,
      Should I assume that your ownership of a gun makes you a gun toting, fire happy zealot out looking for something to kill? The fact that one does not own a gun does not instantly equate with a lack of will to fight. Nor does ones stand against the death penalty. In fact, since this article was all about hand gun owners, you may not even be talking about people who are unwilling to use firearms for protection. I, for one wouldn’t waste my time with a hand gun for home protection. Give me a shot gun every time! It’s hard to miss with a shot gun, even under stress. And you can bet an intruder will think twice about sticking around when they hear that all too familiar “click-click”.

  • Dennis48e

    If any one of those persons places of residence is broken into they should sue for ownership of the newspaper then either replace the entire reporting and management staff or close it and take the money from the sale of its assets.

    • JJM123

      They have threatened the safety of everyone in each county reported. What they didn’t consider is that they have provided a list of potential ‘Soft Targets’, ie those without a CCP. They have now put themselves in the lawsuit crosshairs of any victim.

      • Bruce

        let the law suits begin……
        when they are over the newspaper should be bankrupt. then a new newspaper that will tell us the truth can replace it. How to remove liberal newspapers from the shelves, permanently.

      • Smilee

        Bruce says:
        December 27, 2012 at 7:59 am

        You cannot sue a paper for printing copies of public records only if the slander you and then only if your a private citizen and not a public one so lawsuits will not happen

  • anonymous

    the same people that called for people to be registered because they once committed a crime and did their time for it are now angry that that same thing is being extended to them……..once you have the government take from someone else, it will eventually be taken from you as can argue that those people once committed a felony, but they served their time, in other words, they are no longer felons and are(according to the constitution) having their rights trampled on.

    • Tom Cook

      Do you really believe that this is the same thing? If so you must be a liberal as they always think backwards. I believe it is an evolutionary malfunction of the brain. Liberals have one absolute commonality–they lie, about everything, and if anything is ugly, perverted, depraved, cowardly, demented, sick, twisted or otherwise heinous liberals are all for it.

      • Kinetic1

        Tom Cook,
        Projecting a bit are we? Political orientation is hardly a foundation for such claims.

    • Bogeester

      Once a felon always a felon. Do the time and you are still a felon. If you apply for a job there is that one question…have you ever been convicted of a felony? Hence youre a felon.

      • rocketride

        In most jurisdictions, there is a legal procedure for full (or nearly full) restoration of rights (including the right to own at least some kinds of firearm) that a felon may eventually attempt. Eligibility usually comes 5-20 years (depending on the state/locality) after completing prison and parole sentences and otherwise “keeping one’s nose clean”.
        So, “once a felon, always a felon” is not necessarily true, at least in the purely legal sense.

    • AZ-Ike


      You seem to forget that a person who commits a crime (felony) forfeits his/her liberties. Doing ‘time’ or completing other punishments may release the felon back into society, but doesn’t automatically restore all liberties.

      Violating the privacy of individuals who have commited no crimes by inferring they are likely to commit felonies is a violation of the intent of the 4th Amendment. Freedom of speech and a (supposedly) free press are only guaranteed until they deliberately harm the rights of another. The citizens of Westchester, Rockland, and Putnam Counties, both the gun owners and non-gun owners, should sue both the “Journal News’ and the parent publisher, Gannett Co., Inc.

      It is long past the time media sources should be held accountable for the damage they do to individuals, society and the country by their irresponsible actions.

      • Vicki

        AZ-Ike says:
        “You seem to forget that a person who commits a crime (felony) forfeits his/her liberties. Doing ‘time’ or completing other punishments may release the felon back into society, but doesn’t automatically restore all liberties.”

        There is a name for that. It’s called parole.

        Why an ex-felon (remember that saying) should ever bother with abiding by laws if the punishment for committing a class of crimes is to be a felon and forever barred from those liberties?

        Crime is supposed to be punished. If the punishment is forever then why would the felon care?

        While considering your answer keep in mind that mere possession of most tools of self defense (knives, swords, firearms etc) without “permission” of the king (government) IS a felony.

  • http://TheMiracleofSelfPower Iris D. Lynch

    Actually, the paper did the gun owners a favor. Any fool criminal would take this information and break into any home NOT ON THE LIST OF GUN OWNERS! Most criminals are on the dumb side, but they are not THAT dumb!

    • JJM123

      That was my initial take on the matter. In fact I, whether I had a permit or not, I would insist on being added to the list. I do not want to be inferred as a Soft Target.

    • ibcamn

      dumb and brazen are two different things!

  • harvey

    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    Why not publish, on the internet, the names and address, and phone numbers of the newspapers office, owners, editors, staff, and employees, so the public can let them know that the privacy of the newspaper people is no more important than the privacy of those with gun permits?

    • http://google gary gerke

      You are right on the money!!!!!!

    • gunner689AI

      also list them as gun-free residents along with how many women are in the house and the approx. annual income of the resident.

  • Joe

    I found this information today and it will help us get back at all these people:

    • joe12221

      This is the list of all the people on that paper with their names, addresses, and in some cases phone numbers

  • Paul Wells

    Someone on Facebook used that same freedom of information act, and published the names, addresses and phone numbers of all of the New York Journal News publishers, editors and staff, which I thought was a good turnaround, and fair play. There really must be something in the drinking water up there, that makes them such damned fools!!

  • Rob

    I wonder if the newspaper would publish a list of how many of the gun owners had been convicted of a crime using a gun.

    • http://personalliberydigest big wyo

      Hey Moron I can give you number the from here —–0—–felons can’t get a permit by definition you absolute libturd communist.

      • Vicki

        Ease up there. His point was that the number of CCWPermit holders that where LATER convicted of a crime is so close to zero as to be irrelevant.

        P.S. If that was not his point then you may be correct. :)

  • mike

    Seems to me that it would be a bad thing to live next to those people whose names and addresses were published. Now the bad guys know where to go, as well as where NOT TO GO! How demented can the anti-gun nuts be one wonders?

  • Geo. Griff

    The only thing I see wrong with this story is that there is not enough red dots on the map. If that wsa the South they wouldn’t have enough red ink to print it.

  • Tom Mitchell

    Law-abiding citizens who are concerned about their right to own and possess firearms need to wise up, and realize the same thing that criminals and native Americans know: Don’t trust the government! If criminals don’t register their guns, why should the rest of us?

    • Vicki

      Felons don’t have to register their guns. They are protected by the 5th amendment.

      Just one more reason why firearms registration is just wrong.

      • Kinetic1

        You make it sound as if they will not face criminal charges if they buy (or steal) a gun and fail to register. Got it, they can’t be penalized for failing to register, but they will still face penalties for illegal possession.

      • vicki

        kinetic 1 writes:
        “Got it, they can’t be penalized for failing to register,”

        That’s what it means. A law abiding citizen CAN but they can’t.
        nice usless law.

  • Gillysrooms from Australia

    I bet the newspaper journalists cant possibly know how many unlicensed gun owners there are or where they live and how many and types of guns they own. But the gun shops selling ammunition must know how many bullets and magazine types they are selling every week on top of the amounts they sell with the guns they sell each week…might give a clue to who is buying the amo for each type of weapon? Might give anyone who has access to this information, such as the amo manufaturers would be a good place to start.

    In my experience the police are the biggest collectors of guns and rifles and I cant imagine them ever giving up their private amoury collections even if made illegal. So I can not imagine your country ever be in a position of not having guns in every home. No point bothering about doing criminal checks of applicants because most of the shooters in these incidents were not criminals until after the shootings occurred, but certainly if you could figure out which people had mental health issues before selling them guns then you would all be very clever, but reality is 1 in 6 or less has a mental health issue at some time in their lifetime and maybe sometime after getting a gun, so most of these ideas by politicians are not going to work to stop the killings really.

    My only suggestions is that with all the guns you have in your American society, you dont really need the police or the army to defend yourselves. I think you could save $trillions if you sacked all the police except the police chiefs and some of your patriotic citizens took it in turns to act as community police to maintain law and order, so saving enough money in no time to pay out your national debt. I think you should suggest this idea to Congressman John Boehner and to your President to help solve your taxing problems with the fiscal cliff.

    • Bill

      What are you doing on this column, Aussey
      You do not even have a second ammendment and that is why you lost your guns. So, how is that increased crime going?

      • moca

        The ban (and subsequent buy back) of certain weapons made almost no difference to our overall rate of gun ownership. There was no change to the eligibility criteria, the only thing that changed was that certain types of guns were banned. Most people who had to surrender their semi-autos and pump-actions simply took the money from the buyback, went to the gun store and bought a legal replacement.

    • Vigilant

      “I think you could save $trillions if you sacked all the police except the police chiefs and some of your patriotic citizens took it in turns to act as community police to maintain law and order, so saving enough money in no time to pay out your national debt.”

      You would do well to read our Constitution before you go off with such an uninformed statement. Such a move as you suggest would have virtually zero impact on our national debt.

      Local, county and state police are funded by state, not federal, taxpayers. Exceptionally small amounts of $$$ are returned by the Feds for local and regional law enforcement.

      • Gillysrooms from Australia

        Vigilant ….Now I did not know your State citizens dont pay taxes and your States dont have deficits. I did not know that…but I bet your property owners do pay too much tax to your many states and $billions could be saved by doing what I suggested if you are really patriotic and wanted to really pay out your borrowed funds. The money saved by your states could be passed onto your Federal Government to offset your army costs if you feel you cant handle your criminals with all your citizens gun, all the police guns and all your military guns…i’d call your system a complete FAILURE!!!

  • Tom Mitchell

    If the possession of a gun makes a person a potential killer, then the possession of a penis would make a person a potential rapist, wouldn’t it?

    • Aislinn Ryan

      So true! And you could go on and on with this! Possession of money could make you a potential drug buyer, possession of a car could make you a potential drunk driver, possession of children could make you a potential pedophile….. Its ridiculous isnt it?!

    • ibcamn

      or a lesbian woman with a strap-on!lets be fare to the women too!(it’s kinda like,you hear hoof beats and think of a horse,but never a zebra!)

    • Bill

      And everyone that drives a car a speeder

  • littledog94

    This would mean then, by process of elimination, criminals would also know which addresses do not have a pistol permit.

    • Phyllis

      My thinking as well. Another “plus” if you will – the real estate market should pick up in the red dot areas. I personally would prefer to live next door to a gun owner than next door to someone who is afraid of guns or feels that they (guns) should be outlawed.

    • rocketride

      OTOH, those are just pistol permits.
      Picture the following.
      1) Some 3/4 dumbass attempts a “hot” burglary/ home invasion at an address where no handgun is registered.
      2) the homeowner puts a load or two of 00 buck into him, using a shotgun, which in upstate NY, at least, does not require a permit. (Permits are required for long guns in NYC– good enough reason to stay the hell out of that [expletive deleted] whenever possible.)
      3) Dumbass, or, more likely, his heirs, sues the editorial board of the fishwrapper known as the “Urinal-Ooze”.

  • James Maxwell

    And let the fun begin, the Legal Gun Owners will form a group and file a class action law
    suit against the Liberal rag and take it over. Their rights to privacy were violated and it
    also made them a target for thugs and criminals. If one gun owner is harmed, robbed or
    in any way threatened by someone it will be a direct result of this article and leaves them
    libel for aiding and abetting any criminal activity. It has placed the lawful and legal
    owners and their families at risk. Wonder how long before some leech lawyer figures
    this out an starts the suit?

    • Vigilant

      “If one gun owner is harmed, robbed or in any way threatened by someone it will be a direct result of this article and leaves them libel for aiding and abetting any criminal activity.”

      I’m afraid you’ve got that backwards. Criminals may be dumb, but they would be more liable to commit a crime against someone who does NOT own a handgun, wouldn’t they?

      • weeklyweatherreport

        Excellent idea. About time we used some of evil, vile, fascist Saul Alinsky’s ideas back at them. We can’t use all of Alinsky’s ideas, as some were just plain evil – but where they are not evil, let’s use them.
        Freaking fascist newspaper person. If I so much stubbed my toe because of this info being published, I sue the snot out of her. And I’d try to get the ACLU to do it. About time they did something useful. Use fascist money against fascist. Perfect solution.

  • Bill

    It is time to run those newspapers out of business with class action lawsuits and cancellation of subscriptions. Any attorneys out there want to make some money?

    Here is a link to somebody protecting themselves with a gun


    This really should bother those who don’t own guns as it also shows the criminals where the easy pickings are. No guns at this address or that address, ect. Maybe the people at the Journal News in NY do not have weapons and wouldn’t it be ironic if their places were the ones chosen by those who do not respect the law. Law abiding armed citizens would less likely be targeted for a crime than law abiding unarmed citizens.

    • Vicki

      TRHNTR writes:
      “No guns at this address or that address, ect. ”

      Not exactly. That list only shows where people with permits live. It says nothing about where people with guns but without permits live.

      • Smilee

        I thought that is what I said

      • vicki

        Is your name TRHNTR? I thought you used the name smilee.

  • Bill

    No, people are not concerned – it’s the left liberals that are concerned.


    The “tactics” used by the anti-freedom, deranged, socialist-progressive-fascists to attack and coerce gun-owners into relinquishing their guns, are the very same tactics that were used in divesting a considerable number of Americans of morals and principles; “ridicule and vilification”! For example, anyone who criticized and opposed homosexuality, “A homophobe”; anyone who criticized and opposed Abortion, “Against health-care and oppressor of women”; anyone who promoted family values, “Anti-socialist”; anyone opposed to big-Government, “A Capitalist-ghoul”…ect.

    The point being, all the labels pasted on anyone who opposes and resists the status-quo, are for the purpose to marginalize and demonize, and ultimately to break-down the resolve of the resistance and bring them into lock-step with the main-stream depravity! But i say; resist, and rather than be ashamed, consider the labels as badges of honour, and by all means, wear them with pride!

    • AZ-Ike

      These ‘tactics’ were some of the 37 goals of Communists (Marxists) for infiltrating the United States and destroying the country from within because they knew they could never do it by force. Their infiltration and ‘disinformation’ has been largely successful in every category. Once they had the universities, the media and entertainment industry (arts,) and now, the elected politicians, it was only a matter of time until Americans were so manipulated and/or ‘dumbed down’ that freedom and morality no longer seem to matter.
      (It seems likely to me that most of these ‘mentally ill’ individuals who shoot up innocent people probably never experienced a belief in God, a knowledge of morality, or anything approximating personal responsibility. Instead they were given drugs to help them cope–and that is why gun control will never work to stop the slaughter–because it doesn’t address the underlying problems.)

      We now have a ‘manchurian candidate’ Communist dictator in charge of completing the process–removing the last of our constitutionally guaranteed rights. Not one of our elected representatives or judicial officers has defended the Constitution or the American people. If we can’t get past the biased media support of the corrupt incumbents, we can participate in the grass roots efforts to replace the individuals by alternative media and word of mouth, especially in our States.

      Unless our States are already nullifying federal laws and federal court decisions that violate the Constitution, we have two years to find individuals to replace Governors, Secretaries of State, Attorneys General and State legislators with individuals who do respect the sovereignty of the States and who will have the strength of character to resist federal intimidation. Federal taxation can be diverted to the State to pay for education, state militias, and the other responsibilities granted to the States and previously usurped by the feds–until such time the federal government is restrained to only their limited constitutional powers, authority and responsibility.

      It is time to resist liberal (and hopefully, minority) tyranny. It is time to refuse to accept the removal and/or diminishment of our constitutional rights. It is time to become the activists for a restoration of our natural and constitutional rights. It is clear from the 2010 and 2012 elections that trying to change anything on the federal level will not work. We need to expend our efforts where we still have some degrees of influence–in our States and local governments.

      • JJM123

        Very well stated. As the Fed Gov is granted its powers from the people and from the states, it is necessary that we concentrate on that which is closest to us and more apt to respond to our pleas for that which we desire. Let the Feds revert to their original limited intents of protecting our Constitution and our Border.

  • Terry Mitchell

    Lawyers should reap a bonanza with the suits to be filed against the newspaper for invasion of privacy. And just wait until one of those named is the victim of a hate crime or a home invasion to steal their guns, or one of the un-named is targeted for burglary because the criminals knew they were not listed amongst the homes having guns to defend themselves.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Isn’t this information Public Record?

      • JJM123

        The only way they could obtain the info in the 1st place was to go thru the effort to acquire the records. Now rather than a couple people acquiring the info at their expense, everyone has ready free access.
        After captured criminals confess where they got their target list, court actions will result in new owners of the paper, hopefully more responsible owners.

  • cawmun cents

    Let me simpleize this for you:
    Government regulating housing=people losing their houses.
    Government regulating commerce=people losing jobs.
    Government regulating firearms=?
    Do the math…..
    But what do I know?
    Apparently very little……..

    • Doc Sarvis

      No regulation in housing = houses collapsing and killing inhabitants
      No regulation in commerce = dangerous products and consumers being taken advantage of
      No regulation of firearms = only those rich enough to buy the biggest weapon will survive.

      Your self assessment is very accurate.

      • AZ-Ike

        “Buyers Beware” – consumers have always been responsible for the purchases they make–whether houses or other products.

        A committed armed populace standing the home ground will generally prevail–even against a larger (people and weapons) invading force.

      • Bill

        So, now we see where Doc Sarvis is coming from.

  • Charlie R

    Boycott newspapers and help ( and their websites) put them out of business.
    The majority of them are corrupt tools of the left wing, liberal establishment.

  • ibcamn

    if this is a liberal paper,did maybe a person on the board for this paper attend a progressive dinner and they talked about doing this in every town paper(owned by liberal’s)in the US,and did it here first to see the reaction and outcome?(if their that smart)

  • captain3292

    Senator Dianne Feinstein is introducing legislation to outlaw the sale of semi-automatic weapons and to register all weapons in the U.S. This is the beginning of a dictatorship and I am urging all to work with dully elected representative patriots to remove this traitor from office. What must be considered is impeachment as a result of violation of the oath of office to defend and protect the U.S. constitution.

    • Vicki

      Hardly the beginning of the dictatorship. Certainly a continuation of one though since the people are noticeably waking up.

  • JR

    Maybe this jackazz newspaper editor ought to be a teeeny-weeny bit more concerned about who FREAKING has guns thanks to ERIC HOLDER.
    But then, that would demaind intellectual honesty… or just plain ol’ regular honesty. Something is short supply with our corrupt, co-opted, compliant leftist media

  • Doc Sarvis

    According to most posters on this site, gun owners are society’s saviors. This sort of publicity would be akin to recognizing our heros. There must be something to be ashamed of considering the reaction this is getting.

    • ibcamn

      no shame,i think the biggest underling fact is that most people who own registered weapons also own unregistered weapons!i own more weapons than i have registered,mine through friends or passed down in family.the concern may be if gov’t comes in your house to take your weapons(if laws change to include taking of our firearms) they will find a way to arrest you and whisk you away without bringing you back!(hold you indefinitely as Obama wants)kinda like,make an example of you!

      • Vicki

        And if they do let you out it will be AFTER a felony conviction of some crime. Thus you will loose for life your right to keep and bear arms.

      • rocketride

        It comes down to how many real Americans there are who would be willing to shoot the “stormtroopers” who come to their doors demanding their guns. If there are enough, then the gun-grab becomes an untenable proposition for that portion of the Law Enforcement Officer community that might entertain the notion of enforcing such an unconstitutional “law”. My guess is that that portion of the LEO community is more than zero, but well less than half. I don’t think that most of the police officers I know around here would be parties to such a thing, but you never know, until the balloon goes up what will happen. I’m not even going to try to guess what part of the civilian gun-owner community would use their weapons to defend their right to continue to own and use them. Or to hazard a guess as to what fraction would need to to make the gun-grab a non-starter.

    • WTS/JAY

      Doc: According to most posters on this site, gun owners are society’s saviors.

      You exaggerate!

  • rocketride

    Pretty much what we’ve come to expect from the “Urinal-Ooze”.

  • Publius2013

    Enough is enough. The US government has become an oppressive one. It is time to take action. Plan for the assault against gun ownership. Diane Feinstein is submitting legislation to confiscate weapons SHE deems offensive and make everyone either give them up without compensaation or face criminal charges and incarceration. I say eff her! If we join together and refuse to obey any such law and keep our guns, what can she or the government do? Arrest us all? Fat chance. The current administration has become a clear and present danger to our Democratic Republic and must be stopped. Prepare for the coming conflagration, define your status, join up with other patriots, establish a plan of action and be ready. Support each other because if you don’t this government will eff you any way they can. We have met the enemy and he ain’t us, he is Obama, Feinstein, Schumer, Reid, Boxer, Pelosi, Bloomberg, Clinton, and the rest of this damned killing administration that was sspawned in hell!

    • rocketride

      There ain’t a damned thing wrong with DiFi, or any of the others you mention that a hollowpoint or three wouldn’t fix.


    Arming Criminals To Disarm Americans

    March 9, 2011 by Bob Livingston

    If any remain under the delusion that the government doesn’t work covertly and break its own laws to achieve its own nefarious ends, that delusion should be dispelled once and for all with revelation by a Federal agent that the United States Justice Department ordered agents to sit idly by as weapons were smuggled into Mexico for use by drug cartels and criminal gangs.

    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms senior agent John Dodson told CBS News that he and his fellow agents in the Phoenix office were ordered to do just that to see where the guns would end up. They ended up killing U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on Dec. 14, 2010.

    Dodson told the news organization that he and other senior agents confronted their supervisors many times over the practice. Their answer, according to Dodson, “If you’re going to make an omelet, you’ve got to break some eggs.” The operation, Dodson was told, was approved by higher-ups the Justice Department.

    The Los Angeles Times reported that 1,765 guns were sold to suspected smugglers during a 15-month period of the investigation, dubbed Operation Fast and Furious. Of those, 797 were recovered on both sides of the border, including 195 in Mexico after they were used in crimes.

    “With the number of guns we let walk, we’ll never know how many people were killed, raped, robbed,” he told The Times. “There is nothing we can do to round up those guns. They are gone.”

    More than 15,000 people died last year in Mexico’s drug wars and from criminal acts by Mexican gangs. And some of those gangs routinely cross into the United States to commit crimes.

    Meanwhile, the President Barack Obama administration and many on the Left use the growing gun violence in Mexico to push for stricter gun laws in the United States.

    • gunner689AI

      that’s because it’s easier to control unarmed people. the difference between citizens and serfs. played out time after time in history.

  • clyde

    this is ok for the people who have guns, the crooks will leave them alone because they
    know they might get their ass shot off. protect your families at all times.
    good luck

  • RanScot

    Is the map a notice to burglars on which homes to avoid?

  • Veteran

    I do hope someone has published the names and addresses of the newspaper’s top staff and listed them as “non-gun owners” so that any thieves or break-in artists have a list of houses to hit – whether the owners are home or not! This should be listed as the “Victim List” and “brought to you by The Journal News” so that the felons will have a ready-made list of targets.

    And these people will learn why those of us who do have firearms have them, because “when seconds count the police are only minutes away!”

    And wait until they have to deal with our ‘wonderful’ legal system.





    • Tom Mitchell

      Why is it that its always the racists who are so quick to draw the race card, while accusing everyone else of racism. Why even bring up race anyway, unless you’re a compulsive racist.


        “Tom Mitchell,”





  • Scott

    I wonder if it would be considered stalking if each of those who were outed were to set up a schedule of who would be outside the reporter’s residence & when he comes out there is a different person everyday who would point at him & say “bang”???

  • Charlie R

    The banning of “semi auto’s”, if legislated will, obviously include pistols, shotguns and hunting rifles. That is to say almost all modern firearms. Firearms are private property and their confiscation, if legislated, will be as violation of our Constitution. Given the potential for an OBAMA SUPREME COURT, the Constitution will not matter.

    “Never let a crisis go to waste”… and this time the government will ban firearms and more importantly have every firearm registered to a specific individual. And, that my historically challenged friends, is exactly what Hitler did in Germany. Those of u that voted for Obama / democrats are reaping unintended consequences.

    The UN Small Arms Treaty that H. Clinton has already signed, may become the crown jewel in Obama’s anti-gun legislation, and this with the approval of the mindless liberal socialists that hate America. Now that is going FORWARD, isn’t it? America is poised to be come a freedom-less nation, beholden to BIG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and an ELEITE RULING CLASS who will exempt themselves from the laws they pass. (Obama care is an example)

  • Bill

    This is a good argument NOT to have gun registration

  • rick o

    hey left side idiots keep your list handy so when you are attacked you know which house to run to for protection, if you get out.

  • Tara Morgan

    The most serious problem with having your name on a list of gun owners is that when the government comes around to confiscate guns, your name will be high on the list, and could be fatal if you no longer have that weapon. That’s the way they did it in Germany in the 1930′s. Expect to see a similar purge during the Obama regime.

  • gunner689AI

    when the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the papers owners, publishers, and editors names are outed; don’t forget to mention that these are gun-free zones, how many females in residence, and approx. annual salary of resident. Same can go for their advertisers. fight fire with fire. PC is BS; to Hell with BO.

  • michael mcdaniel sr (@michaelmcdani19)

    the list is just REGISTERED gun owners. my guess is THE NEWSPAPER IS A LIAR for the simple reason being it has been my experience that between 15% and 20% of registered gun owners in any given area at any given time DO NOT have any guns for whatever reason. they gave it to the kids on the farm, they sold it because they didnt feel it was needed, they wanted to trade up(sold the old and havent got the new yet), etc. POINT IS, no weapon but didnt think to call registration office to REMOVE NAME from list if able. live in oklahoma but am still registered in kansas and nebraska. still registered to VOTE in kansas and am sent absentee ballots and census papers. NO I DONT. POINT IS, BUREAUCRATS are basically TOO STUPID to be allowed to live but there are those people who VOTE THE SELFSAME A.H. BUREAUCRATS INTO CONGRESS and the white house and allow them to RUIN the lives of the rest of us.

  • http://PersonalLibertyNews David

    WOW,don’t worry they will be coming for them,there guns as soon as they can find the people to collect them one at a time so no-one is aware.UNTIL THEY COME FOR YOU.Locked and loaded in Nevada Happy New Year and God Bless

  • Wisdom

    So they said the government would never use such information against it’s citizens. And Adolf responded, the Jews are not our citizens, collect the information. But don’t worry, that kind of thing could never happen here.

  • BR549

    The people at the Journal News must not be all that bright. I mean, STUPID is a more accurate term.

    In whatever it takes to sell a newspaper, I can hear the leftist libtard editor, CynDee Royle, aka Cynthia Lambert, right now, “I’ll get even with those GUN PEOPLE.”

    At the end of the day, she must either believe that she is safe enough to step out of her office (meaning that her welfare was never in jeopardy from the law abiding citizen gun owners to begin with) …… OR …… she has her own armed body guards.

    Which is it, CYNDEE? Are you people that STUPID at the paper that you couldn’t see that you just set yourself up for a false flag target? And you have family. Obviously, no Mensa candidates in that family tree. I feel sorry for for your kids.

  • harold

    HoHoHO-the ones who should be complaining are the ones who are not listed-the weaponless ones. Now the bad guys know where to hit without worry. Happy New Year.

  • PGHYinzer33

    There are more criminals who have more guns than the legal gun owners! how about they tell me where the ILLEGAL guns are? I am not the criminal here, you morons! its the criminals who sell drugs and rob businesses… keep complaining and please do keep reading for the terms RESPONSIBLE and GUN OWNERSHIP!!!


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