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New York Congressman Resigns Amid Craigslist Scandal

February 11, 2011 by  

New York Congressman Resigns Amid Craigslist ScandalUnited States Representative Christopher Lee (R-N.Y.) has resigned from office after reports surfaced claiming that the 46-year-old Congressman sent a shirtless photo of himself to a woman on Craigslist.

Lee submitted a formal resignation letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Feb. 9, just hours after Gawker.com reported that Lee, who is married with one child, allegedly identified himself through emails as a divorced 39-year-old who was looking for a date. Among several messages he reportedly sent to a female Craigslist user was a picture of himself posing shirtless.

"It has been a tremendous honor to serve the people of Western New York," Lee said in a written statement, according to media reports. "I regret the harm that my actions have caused my family, my staff and my constituents. I deeply and sincerely apologize to them all."

Politico.com reports that Boehner allegedly warned Lee and other GOP lawmakers to stop partying with female lobbyists last year. Lee is the second U.S. Representative to resign within the past year due to reports of extramarital conduct. Mark Souder (R-Ind.) stepped down last May after it was revealed that he had an affair with a staffer.

According to FOX News, Lee's last speech on the House floor was on Jan. 19, when he urged his colleagues to repeal President Barack Obama's healthcare law.

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  • s c

    Probably, those who are hard-pressed for news will demand that this non-story be seen as something that threatens national security or America’s morals unless Lee is made an instant villain. Let’s get something straight, people.
    Lee isn’t the brightest guy, BUT he isn’t in trouble for stealing millions of dollars, he’s not a traitor, he wasn’t running a male escort service as part his “job” and America will survive this latest ‘aha’ moment.
    So when can we expect those on the other side of the political aisle to step up and ADMIT that when it comes to politics and who does what, it always amounts to another chance to defend one’s side and slam dunk the other. This is a pathetic NON-STORY. Anyone who sees America’s morals being threatened in this episode is someone who has more to hide than does Lee.

    • TIME

      SC,
      Many a valid point within you’re text. really when one thinks about that special Progressive Mrs.Clinton, who seems to have some kind of “Death Ray” around her.

      As I recall there are some 30 people who all were in very good health yet they all have died out of the clear blue, whats really strange is that most had no blood left in them, nor any bllod at the alledged crime scene.
      So I guess one could say many of these people who’s deaths were at best really Strange, yet no one ever did any story on them nor any follow up.

      Its really more like a bad B rated Horror film. And yet the press can’t seem to make a connection. Why is that one would have to ask?

      You know like Vince Foster who was found head down in the George Town Park on a sloped area and keep in mind shot in the head, not just in the head but the back of the head, yet not a single drop of blood around his body. Strange?
      No everyone knows that when you’re going off you’re self you twist you’re arm around the back of you’re head and pull the triger.
      Hey really you see this all the time!

      I don’t know call me wierd but gravity seems to have lost its ability to do it job on this case as well. Oh and as his body had no blood in it I guess it was just a case of Vampires at the WH.
      Yea that sounds great.

      Oh and that pesky missing gun? Oh yea the press did a great job on this case, man did they dig up some dirt.
      Oh yea thats right, they din’t do a damm thing.

      • Al Sieber

        Hey TIME, did you ever watch the DVD the ” Clinton Chronicles”?

        • TIME

          Hi Al,

          No I have not but I will look into it. I just hear stories from people who as one woman I know said she fears the Clinton’s.
          JFTR – she’s a DC Belt Way Democrat.

        • kate8

          s c and TIME – I agree with both of you. Compared to the outright criminal behavior going in among DC politicians everyday, this is nothing but a deflection to make them appear to be high-minded.

          Clinton was not only guilty of being a sexual predator but, as you said, murder, too. And it’s worth noting that the only thing he got called to task for was the sexual dalliance. Of course, he is a progressive so it all went away for him. No one really expects democrats to follow any moral standards, anyway.

          While I don’t condone such behavior, right now, as long as someone opposes things like Obamacare, they can sort out their personal problems later.

          • Kinetic1

            kate8,
            Clinton’s “sexual dalliance” just “all went away”? Where were you during the Star investigation? Did you forget about the millions and millions of dollars waisted on proving he got a BJ?

            As for Congressman Lee, I’m sure that the only reason he stepped down was pressure from the Right. I have to admit that it amuses me whenever one of these “family values” types is caught with their pants down, but all I really care about is that he does his job. Of course if your going to support impeaching Clinton for lying about sex, then you have to support asking people like Lee to resign.

          • kate8

            kinetic – what I meant about “went away” was that he was let off the hook with no real consequences. Some liberal guys I knew called him their “hero” because of his indiscretions.

            You libs like to harp on his impeachment being over lying about sex, but he didn’t just lie. He lied under oath. Perjury. A felony.

            Worse than that, he had people murdered. Oh, and don’t forget whitewater. And Slick Willy just slithered right out of all of it. Had he been a Republican, he would have been forced out of office in disgrace (in fact, it happened to one). Instead, being a progressive,
            he shed a few crockadile tears (disgusting) and democrats smiled and said “boys will be boys”.

            Clinton disgraced our highest office and got off scott-free. It ended an entire era where those holding such office were required to at least give the appearance of holding to a higher standard. In fact, it is called ‘the death of outrage’.

            Democrats have taken us from being a people who prided themselves on American excellence to a crude, debased, careless, underachieving and disintegrating society.

        • Granny Mae

          sc,
          Americas morals being threatened is not the case of my concern, it’s Americas morals being exposed that concern me and then the fact that we just brush it all aside as though it was nothing. If a man cheats on his wife what else will he cheat at? If a man lies about his standing in life what else does he lie about? If a man thinks indesgressions against his family mean nothing to the point of carrying out his pleasure on a public entity such as the internet, what kind of indesgression is he willing to perpatrate against his country in secret when no one is looking? He say’s it was a pleasure to have represented the people of New York, you have got to be kidding me! Represent them how? It surely wasn’t the way they hired him to represent them ! He was being paid to do a job and instead he was screwing around, he should be fired and made to pay back all the wages the people of New York have paid him while he was in Washington. Why is it so excusable to over look these kinds of actions and then complain about all the politicians in Washington being crooks? Is it not the same actions that we are complaining about in others? Lying, cheating and indesgression on every level. Do these people draw some kind of a invisable line and say I will cheat, and lie and sell out my family that I love so much and the people that have elected and trusted me to do a job for them and my country but I won’t do any of these things against my country! Horse Hocky. When they have done it to their families and their state they have done it to their country because they all are a part of this country. The state and the people in that state put their trust in him to represent them and their interrests in the best possible way and his family has put their lives in a different mode so he could take on this responsibility, which is a very big deal to a family, and he acts as though none of that is important! He thought it was his pleasure to represent the state and now he is going home to apologize to his family and make amends ! Just like that he thinks everything is alright ! Just one more political jerk trusted to do a job and they lied and sought out their own pleasures. Do you really think that while they are in office their only indesgressions are going to be only personal and not political? Every one of these guys that have done this from the president on down have thumbed their noses at us and done as they pleased, right down to bringing disgrace to their office and the country they represent ! They lie about their actions and think we don’t know the truth. What does that say about their opinnion of the public they represent? What hipocrits we have become ! If these people will do these things against the families they love they would not hesitate to do the same against a country they think they own ! Their decissions with other countries in connection with our country becomes suspect ! A cheater is a cheater and a liar is a liar all the time ! This guy is a jerk and does not deserve your excusing him so readily !

          • libertytrain

            as always, well said Granny Mae. I think part of the problem of us supposing to except this as ok, is the continuous dumbing down of us so slowly over the years, to accept as proper and ok, and all right everything that was considered uncouth and foul in the past.

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – It’s not that ANY of it is okay. It most certainly is not, and you are right. If a man cheats on his wife and family, he will cheat on his country.

            My point is the selective outrage. We’ve got people in high places selling our country right down the river. We’ve got high financial crimes, murder, bribery…you name it. Yet, it is just accepted as common practice with hardly a yawn.

            So why pick on a flirtation? Who knows where it may have led, but the point is, apparently it didn’t get that far. So we are now judging on someone’s intent, while egregious crimes agains our people go unchallenged every day?

            This is what I find outrageous. If we are going to point fingers, let’s point at all of them.

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – Speaking of morals, just look at what we’ve been dealing with in California. It’s sickening what is being done to our kids.

            http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=262485

            With stuff like this going on, what can we expect from our kids? These kids are tomorrow’s office-holders (assuming we still have a nation).

            Don’t forget that CA is your future if you don’t stop it.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            My point exactly. We have turned a blind eye to this stuff for so long that we don’t see most of it anymore except when it gets really bad. We have become acustom to it and pass it up until someone has had time enough to go beyond the point of our tollerance. It has now come that our tolerance level is very high and so we excuse all the bad behavior that leads up to the really bad behavior. These people don’t start out at that level, they advance to that level because they have gotten away with that behavior, so every time it gets a little worse than the time before until they are finally full blown disgusting idiots ! We have given them a pass all along. When do you stop a child from stealing ? When he steal that piece of penny bubble gum or wait till he finally steals someone’s wallet? Getting a pass on the one eventually leads to the other. We have to start cracking down on these people, men and women, right from the git go! These are not children they are grown adults with children of their own. They know right from wrong and when they do wrong it is a concious choice! They need to be held accountable and it needs to be meaningful, not just a slap on the hand. The Clintons have gotten away with their garbage for so long that now they think they are invincable ! They are some scary people, but if they had been stopped a long time ago they wouldn’t be so scarry today ! As for that crap going on in California , that is sickening and falls right into the same area I am ytalking about. The public has put up with this crap for so long that these people are convinced they can get away with anything and they are. I don’t believe in harming these people but I will not be forced to accept their devient behavior as acceptable and desirable to teach my children or grand children. If people don’t get up off their backsides and start fighting back then we will all be forced to accept this garbage. I don’t believe in making excuse’s for poor behavior at any level. It has been my experience that when we do that behavior just gets worse and eventually it hurts all of us. What these people do behind their own closed doors is their business unless it involves children. Then it boarders on petaphealia and is a crime against the innocent. I just can’t accept that. I guess what I’m trying to say is if we are ever going to stop any of this crap, it has to start from the bottom up and no excuses and no free passes ! Just my opinion !

          • kate8

            Well said, Grann Mae. One thing’s for sure in DC. When it comes to how much you can get away with, it’s not who you are, but who you know.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate, thanks for the link, that’s pretty sick, so if that passes what’s next?

          • kate8

            Al – Here in CA they’ve been at this gay agenda stuff in schools for years. That’s why a huge number of parents have been taking their kids out of public schools. It’s already been mandated that kids read books like “Johnny Has Two Dads”, or whatever it was. And one about gay penguins. Then there’s Harvey Milk Day at school, honoring the gay official who was shot.

            They’re being taught to embrace “sexual diversity”, and to experiment in their own lives.

            I don’t believe kids should be getting ANY kind of sex indoctrination in school. They should be learning academics, and how to think, not being socially engineered.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kate8,
            and they wonder why we are dropping on our world level of quality of education?!?!? The kids are too busy learning why johnny has two dads and how lesbians are good role models to learn MATH, SCIENCE, READING, AN ALL THE IMPORTANT THINGS!! The US is fast becoming a third world country in the education department!!

          • Granny Mae

            Kate,

            I’m wondering just how legal it is for the state to mandate what your children should learn? I can see generic things like reading, writing and arithmetic. But to say what you must read is not right. Especially if it is against your personal belief’s. How can they say that your tax money should be spent to teach your children things that you believe are immoral? I think they have it all wrong. If they want to teach your children such things then it should be in a private school setting where you choose to send your children nd pay for the education not in a public school setting where tax money is spent to educate all children. Religious schools are in charge of teaching religious morals and the rest of it should be left to the parents. The education of our children is being taken away from the parents so they are not learning how to be parents ! I don’t want my children learning that devient sexual behavior is OK, because in my book it is not. I don’t have to eccept it and I don’t have to like it and we should all band together to fight it. You can’t change anything if we just let the perverts have their way. No one has the right to physically harm or hurt another person for any reason but either does one person have the right to force such devient behavior as acceptable on another person! You can care about a person and even love that person but you don’t have to like or approve of their behavior when you know it to be wrong . I don’t see where the school system has the right to force any of that on anyone. Especially in public schools. All I can say is California, set your standards high and then raise cain until they are met ! Organize. Take a hint from Obama, and organize and then kick the perverts out ! Advertize for people who have good backgrounds and the knowledge to fit the job and then put everything you have into backing them. Quietly watch and see how the enemy is appealing to the people and then beat them at their own tactics ! If getting organized could put Obama in office it can also put him out of office along with all those devient low lifes that seem to be taking over now days. With the right people in office , good people can pass good laws that will protect people from all this garbage we have to sift through today !

          • kate8

            Granny Mae, – Of course, you are right.

            However, CA is VERY progressive, and gays have a lot of power. This very issue was taken before a state court, and the judge said that, not only do parents not have the right to input on what their children are being taught, but they don’t even have the right to KNOW. He said that when our children enter public school, they become property of the state.

            How’s that for progressivism. We also have self-proclaimed communists in our Legislature and other offices around the state.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            Wow ! Sounds to me like people should get together and contact the ACLJ and take that matter before the Supreme Court ! They also need to vote that judge out of office. The only time the government has the right to take over our children is if we are proven to be unfit parents . Just sending our children to school does not mean that we have turned control of our kids over to the state ! Wow ! It is a good thing I did not stay in California when we moved there back in the early 70′s. Only stayed for three months and wasn’t crazy about it so we left. If we had stayed I would probably be in prison by now! LOL ! I know that back in the 60′s people in the north use to call the progressives from Cal. as people coming from the land of fruit’s and nut’s ! The Lord was right to tell me to move from there !

    • EddieW

      And we get Screwed!!! He retires at FULL Pay, aget free medical benefits, mail, and many other expensive perks…even if serving only 1 term in the Senate!! They have feathered their nest well…at taxpayer expense!!! Boy!! Are We Screwed!!! ONLY if he commits a felony, and it be proven, can his gravy train be cut off!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Eddie,
        I believe you will find that he would have to serve 5 years and obtain the age of retirement to collect.

      • Lastmanstanding

        EddieW. You can find any info regarding representives and senators pay, perks ,etc. in a few minutes on something called the, “internet.”

        Try it sometime before you open your mouth…

  • Karolyn

    Politicians are all stupid enough to think they can get away with it! They are (mostly) all men and think with their lower regions!

    • TIME

      Karolyn,
      I agree with you, but let me just add a few of my observations.
      Being that I am in with the movers & shakers many of you would not grasp how many young girls are attracted to “Power and MONEY.”

      If I wanted to be BAD BOY the line of host would be longer than I can count. An Armani speaks volumes, but what these pro’s look for is the congruent issues, such as Bally shoes & Rolex or Vacheron Constantin. Then watch the skarks come in for the kill.

      This dipstick is 100% clueless about the DC beltway.
      The odd thing is if he had done the trolling of local clubs no one would have ever known of his being a Bad Boy.

      • Granny Mae

        TIME,

        Isn’t that just special? You know he could have trolled the beltway and not been caught but instead he chose creigs list ! Movers and shaker they call them ! I call them lying theives that are taking my money and leaving me nothing to live on while they are fixing nothing ! It all makes me sick and there is no excuse for any of it. I don’t care how many women sluts are out there throwing themselves at these guys, my answer to that is get your a$$ home where you belong and you won’t have that trouble !

        • kate8

          Granny Mae, Of course, you are right about what you say, but if perfection is a requirement for holding office, we may as well forget the whole thing and just hand our nation over to the Left without further comment. They are perfectly okay with scoundrels. In fact, they prefer them.

          How many people do you think we can find to run for office if we continue to crucify them for every misstep? Heck, they could just switch sides and fit right in.

          • libertytrain

            no one is perfect but a few ounces of genuine integrity could go a long way these days.

          • Granny Mae

            Perfection may never happen but it surely won’t if we don’t start demanding it. What is wrong with expecting integrety and honesty in a person running for office? If a person can’t hold themselves to a higher standard then what makes us think we can trust them with our country and our freedom ? Maybe if we demand that they hold themselves to a higher standard and they want the job bad enough, then perhaps they will try real hard to be all that they can be ! We don’t demand anything from them nor punish them meaningfully for any of their indesgressions so what ever they give us is what we get. The saying goes “you get what you permit.”

          • kate8

            Granny Mae. I’ll say it again. The people we send to DC are nothing less than the collective US.

            Until we, as a people, start being held accountable, and start BEING the honorable people we want to have representing us, we will continue to get what we have.

            They are our reflection.

          • Granny Mae

            kate8,

            Yes they are a reflection of what we permit and except! They are not a reflection of us and our actions. Anyway they are not a reflection of my actions nor of what I believe is acceptable conduct for an adult holding a position of authority and power !

          • kate8

            Granny Mae, They may not reflect your values, nor mine, but we are, unfortunately, in the minority. They do reflect the values of the greater collective.

            Not one of us can look back over our lives and say we made no mistakes. I’ve made plenty, so I don’t feel I can expect others not to make their own. Hopefully, we learn from them. I am not the same person I was years ago. Somehow, I think that is the whole point of life.

            We will never find people who are immune to the lure of fame and fortune, especially the younger ones who have hot sap flowing through their veins. It is not whether they make mistakes, but whether they have the capacity to learn from them. That’s what consequences are for.

            The older ones should know better. If they are up in age and have gained no wisdom, then they should be booted out. Sadly, we have many of these guys who are still there.

          • Granny Mae

            kate8,

            Believe it or not I know a lot of people that are upright and honest people that would make wonderful representitives for us in Washington. I only know of one perfect person that ever walked this earth and that in my opinion was Jesus. I don’t expect perfection but I do expect to hold those who represent us to a much higher standard than others! Look at Barney Frank, is that the standard we should want for our rep.? No I don’t think so. He is at a standard that has been accepted from him, but that doesn’t mean it is right. He is not what I want to represent me. If we accept some at a lower standard then we must accept all at that standard. At that standard I believe we could find some reps. right out of prison! To me Franks should be in prison so at his standards any of his cell mates with half a brain could do the same job and live up to the same standards. With these jobs in Washington comes a lot of power so to whom much is given much is required or should be. As for the indesgressions of youth let me say this, no-one can punish us as hard as we ourselves and the problem is most people never know when enough punishment is enough, so we punish ourselves for the rest of our lives ! That is not good ! I will tell you what my faith teaches me and you can take it from there. I was taught that when we repent of our sins, we give them to God and God forgives us and remembers our sins no more ! So if we keep asking over and over for forgivness for the same thing, God says what are you talking about? I don’t remember that. So if God doesn’t remember then why should we? If a person repents for what they do and is sincere then they deserve forgiviness, and they never do it again but you can tell those that really aren’t sorry. Some like Franks in my opinion are far from sorry. We must have higher standards ! I guess I must sound like a hateful old woman but I really am not. I just believe that our problems in Washington can only be resolved if we set higher standards ! Perhaps we should consider some form of housing for our reps. so they can bring their families with them, but with that I must say that I believe in term limits, so two terms and you are out !

    • Al Sieber

      Karolyn, I also knew quite a few women like that.

      • Granny Mae

        Al Sieber,

        Well said. Women are not exempt from disgusting behavior. Our problem as a people is that we have become to lax in our expectations for ourselves and our fellow man. It takes too much effort to hold ourselves to higher standards so we don’t hold any one to them ! Maybe it is out of self guilt, knowing that we are not any better than the guy we are complaining about. If that is the case then it is time we started holding our selves to much higher standards. How can we regain the respect of other nations if we don’t? Rules are rules and we need to start following rules. This old mentality of do as I say and not as I do is a bunch of bunk ! It is time for all of us to become a beacon of truth, honesty and integrity. It may take baby steps to start but if we don’t take that first baby step we will never walk upright and with dignity. We must insist that everyone that represents us does the same . If net the will be thrown out of office and scorned and shamed. We deserve better than what we are getting. If you buy a shirt and when you get it home you find that the seam is ripped you have a couple of choices. You can mend it and keep it or you can take it back and exchange it for one that is in perfect condition, or you can keep it and wear it just as it is, with the hole in it. Most would take it back and exchange it for one that is in perfect condition, some would mend it and keep it but I don’t know anyone that would wear it with a hole in it and not try to get their money back. Politicians are no different. Male or Female.

        • Al Sieber

          I know Granny, this country has turned it’s back on God and morals. I’m afraid we went too far.

          • kate8

            Granny and Al – We start by BEING the people we want to live among. We can’t control how others live, we can only master ourselves.

            What Yeshua taught us was that law alone is not enough to make people righteous, as demonstrated by the Pharasees, who followed the law but held condemnation in their hearts.

            When asked what was the greatest commandment, He said, “To LOVE the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind, soul and strength”. And “To LOVE thy neighbor as thyself”. He said the Law must be written in our hearts, and the “greatest of these is LOVE”.

            To do what’s “right”, but have not LOVE, is of little value. To have not LOVE, and demand others do what’s “right”, is hypocracy, like the Pharasees. We are commanded to LOVE our enemies, not condemn them.

            God said that “There is none righteous. No, not one”.

            I am as guilty as the next guy for criticizing. But I’ve been giving this a lot of thought lately, because what we’re doing isn’t working.

            We will change our nation through LOVE. Nothing else. LOVE is the force of LIFE, and is what holds all things in perfect order and harmony. Lack of harmony is simply the lack of LOVE. What could happen if we just learn to LOVE them all to goodness?

          • Granny Mae

            Al and Kate,

            Yes we have lost our morals and it is time we find them. And Kate, love is the greatest of all commandments, and we must love each other as ourselves, but we must not love sin. We love the sinner not the sin, and forgivness is for all that want it, but to be forgiven one has to repent and comit the sin no more. I am all for forgivness but when I see people like Franks continue in the same things they have always done then I don’t see where they should be forgiven. Jesus was all for discernment also, he many times called out satan when he saw him in the guise of others even his beloved dicyples ! LOL ! Now I know that isn’t how to spell that but the brain is in a glitch!
            We must set our standards higher for ourselves and for others, or we will never crawl out of this hole we find ourselves in ! Prayer will bring us the answers.

  • jopa

    Christopher Lee really didn’t do anything wrong but maybe a little immoral and got caught before it escalated.It’s not like Ensign in the Hamptons Vitter in the whorehouse or Larry Craig in the Sh—er in Minneapolis.The real story today is Boener having a couple chicks on the side.Did you ever wonder why he never went home and always stayed in DC?I always thought he just pulled his putter for a round of golf.The American values party and I didn’ even mention half of the culprits.

    • Karolyn

      I heard this morning that there had been talk about him and that he had been told to clean up his act.

      • Granny Mae

        Jopa,

        Christopher Lee didn’t do anything wrong but just a little immoral! Your missing the whole thing. He was ready and willing to do the wrong, his intentions were there but he got gaught before he could do the deed ! All I can say is he needs to be giving his guardian angel a big thank you for stopping him before it got full blown! If a person decideds to murder someone and when they get to the person they want to murder and find that they are already dead does that mean that the murderer is any less guilty? He has already commited the deed in his mind and heart but his action was thwarted. In the eyes of the law he is not guilty but in the eyes of God he is as guilty as though he had performed the action, because he already did the deed in his heart ! What kind of rep. is he that he forgets his duty and succums to lust on the internet! His choice was was very immature and did not consider the consequences on his constituents. He doesn’t deserve a free pass !

        • Granny Mae

          I don’t think he should resign. He doesn’t deserve a free pass but he does deserve forgivness. He should finish his job and make amends with his family. He needs to fullfill his obligation to his state and the people that elected him, if not they will have to pay a lot of money to hold another election to fill his position and that is not fair to the tax payers. Finish his term and if he truly is sorry for what he did then it will show and maybe the people will elect him again. You don’t just walk out on your obligations because you got caught with your fingers in the cookie jar. But we must hold these people to a higher standard !

    • davidL

      Immoral IS wrong. The Congressman made a mistake, he recognizes it, and he is doing the right thing by resigning from his office of public trust. Good for him. Now he needs to go home and try to salvage his marriage and family.

      • kate8

        From the beginning of time men have associated sexual privilege with power. It’s the nature of the beast. It seems that men are ever willing to risk home and career for a good time. I doubt that any amount of chastisement will put an end to it.

        The thing is, if we’re going to go after corruption, let’s go after ALL corruption, not just single out Republicans for their romantic escapades. They ALL engage in it, or so it appears, yet here we have the old double standard again. No one seems to care if it’s a democrat.

        It has more to do with ridding themselves of opposition to Obama than any kind of moral outrage.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          kate8,
          this guy is stepping down after sending a bare chest picture and saying he was single yet Rangle gets his fingers slapped and hangs there like a leech!!

          • kate8

            Joe H. – Exactly what I mean. Where’s the outrage for the real corruption.

          • Granny Mae

            My point exactly. There is no difference in the crime it is all the same and should be looked at the same no matter who it is ! If you steal you steal, if you cheat, you cheat at anything and everything, and if you lie you lie ! When is a lie not a lie? I know people that are habitual liars and they see no difference between lying about some small thing or lying about stealing someone’s wallet! They lie ! When do we quit making excuses for these idiots and start demanding honesty and integrity from our politicians ! You excuse them because you were not the one dirrectly hurt by them, but if you were I’ll bet you would be singing a different story. Is it wrong to elect someone to a job and to pay them very well for that job and expect them to conduct themselves with morals and integrity and honesty? If you own a business would you hire a person knowing that they were dishonest, lied and had a problem stealing or mis representing themselves ? What do you think that would do to your business? I know what it would do because we owned a business once and let me tell you , you can’t trust an employee like that and still you are willing to excuse this guy when he is in charge of making decissions for the entire state and country. No wonder we have trouble with our politicians, your standards are not high enough. Your expectations are way to low so you are getting what you asked for ! We have to hold these people to a higher standard. They have to know that and except that or don’t run for the job ! If these kinds of actions were so excusable all we would have to do is hire a couple escorts and hookers and probably not have to pay them as much to do the same kind of job ! Come on people , let raise the bar a little here. Now New York is going to have to have an election and elect someone else to fill that job. That is very expensive for a state in good financial shape but for a state in the financial shape that New York is in it is a disaster ! This guy didn’t think about his state or the people of his state when he made the decission to make a fool of himself and disgrace his office and state ! I don’t think any of these people should get off like they do. Rangle is another idiot that has no clue of anyone or any thing but himself. He should have been run out too. I can’t believe we excuse this stuff like we do. It is a disgrace !

          • Granny Mae

            To those whom much is given much is expected ! To be handed a position of greater athority you must be held to a higher standard !

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – No one is excusing them. It’s just that we condemn some while looking the other way with others.

            What do you suppose would have happened to him if he had a gay partner who was running a gay brothel in his home? Would he still be there? Why is Fwanks still there while Lee is gone before he started?What good does it do to throw out some while keeping others? Does it just depend on how they vote on things like, say, Obamacare? Gun bans?

            Doesn’t scripture also say to remove the beam from your own eye before you mention the splinter in another’s eye?

            Again, I say, it’s the selective finger-pointing that makes this wrong.

            It’s possible that his wife would have corrected the problem before it went any further. Only after facing his wife had failed should this have been brought before the “council”.

            Let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            I ask the same question why is Franks still here? Who in Gods green earth gave him the pass? As for Christopher Lee, my solution to his problem would have been more like not accepting his resignation and telling him to get back to work and no more screwing around, get together with his family and straighten that up, but finish the job he was elected to do. You don’t just quit when you get caught and say I’m sorry I’m all done good bye ! You face the consequences take the punishment and get on with the job. If it is a problem that is breaking the law then we take a different turn, and people like Maxcine Waters and Barney Frank and Charlie Rangles need a good dose of prison time, Lee needs a dad gum Jethro and a we are watching every move you make so do your job ! But in my book no-one gets a pass ! As for taking the beam out of your own eye before taking the splinter out of anothers. Well I guess that might apply in some cases, but when it comes to this sort of thing we are called to a higher standard and everyone knows it and should hold themselves to it. Their indesgressions are not just hurting themselves they are hurting their state and the people who voted for them, it is costing their state a couple million to hold another election and that hurts the taxpayers, and is money that will most likely have to come from someother program to cover it making the program it is taken from just that much shorter. No I wouldn’t have accepted his resignation, that was too easy for him and to hard for others. I would have insisted he stay and work till his term was over and in the meantime work on fixing things with his family. As for Barney Frank, if it was up to me he would have been history, along with Waters and Rangles. It doesn’t matter to me what party they belong to if they are crooks they are crooks and we don’t need them !

          • kate8

            Granny Mae, You are a spitfire, and we need more folks like you!

            I agree. He shouldn’t have quit. That’s all I’ve been really saying. He should have just faced his wife and family, and that alone could have been enough to straighten him up. At least, for a while. LOL.

        • Kinetic1

          kate,
          Where’s the outrage from the left? It might be pointed out that he is a hypocrite, but I didn’t hear anyone on the Left screaming that he should step down. I’m fairly certain that any calls for his resignation are coming from his own party.

          • kate8

            kinetic – who said the Left was calling for it? While I’m certain they are on the bandwagon, Republicans always purge themseves of scandal, even when it’s not really called for.

            No one expects democrats to have any morals, so MAYBE they’ll get a slap on the wrist if they get caught, but then they go back to business as usual. They lose nothing.

  • Dennis

    The difference between the two parties when an indiscretion occurs is amazing. If a republican has moral problems, he is supposed to resign immediately and go home and live the rest of his life in discrace. If a democrat has moral problems, he apologizes (sort of) and goes on with writing his latest book about what a great person he is.

    • J.M.R.

      GREAT POINT DENNIS

    • TIME

      Dennis,

      Thats noted as the “Double standard factor.”

      Mr. Rangle alone should clearly display just how that works, let alone had anyone of you done what he did.
      Take a wild guess where you would be sitting?
      Guess what you would have left?
      If you said in Jail, you would be 100% correct.

      And if you said I would have lost everything as it would have been sold at Government auction thats rigged to get the lowest bids, well then you would also be correct.

      Yet Mr. Rangle not only keeps his job, oh and keep in mind he also makes the TAX CODE RULES that you have to follow.
      And he keeps his pay even after he leaves office, paid for by YOU the Tax Payer.
      And he also gets to keep all his STUFF with out fear of any of it being auctioned off….

      Now thats what I call, just sooooo special.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Time… There seems to have always been a double standard going on when it comes to the Dems and the Republicans. Clinton was able to have an affair in the Oval Office and didn’t resign. Of course Hillary would really have killed him for that. As it was she was still able to be ‘First Lady’ and that seemed to be enough to appease her through the whole mess.

        Regardless, the guy is a jerk. Any guy who cheats on his wife and family is a jerk!

      • Granny Mae

        TIME,
        It is so right that there is a double standard and it shouldn’t be that way. When I saw Rangles sit there and continue to protest his inocense all the while he was getting his patty’s slapped it made me sick. How brain dead can you be to think that if you just keep saying I didn’t do it right to the end people will believe your lie? And then to let this guy have a free pass because at one time he was a upright guy in good standing is pathetic. Jeffery Dommer gave that same impression at one time too and look at what he was when we got into the book !If we don’t start holding everyone to a higher standard this is what we will get all the time. Rangles was judged by his pears and they are all just like him so naturally they would give him a pass. They see nothing wrong in his actions, just the appearance of something wrong. They judged him by their standards not ours. Can you see where I’m coming from? We have to set the standards higher and stick to them or the Rangles kind of justice is what we will recieve all the time ! They were judging him by their standards and not by the higher set of standards that they should have.

    • s c

      That’s right, Dennis. Does it make you wonder how some people define a scandal? Isn’t it curious how even the PLND managed to include that term?
      I’d like to know how some people would define Baaney Fwank and his role in his male escort service and his “fwends” in the housing and loan SCANDALS.
      As far as I’m concerned, English is a dying language, and I refuse to accept any blame in that Uncle Scam-created disaster.

      • Robert Smith

        s c asks: “I’d like to know how some people would define Baaney Fwank and his role in his male escort service…”

        Simple… It was proven beyond any doubt that he wasn’t involved in any way. He simply got hooked up with a creep. Get over it.

        Rob

        • http://?? Joe H.

          robert,
          how handy for him. and how handy he didn’t know his roomate was growing pot in his condo and how handy he knew nothing about how the fanney and freddie scandle started!!!

          • Granny Mae

            Hey Joe,

            If Barney is that darn stupi why in the heck is he in office? Anyone that is that stupid should be home locked in his room before he hurts himself ! That idoit is a disgrace to humanity !

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Granny Mae,
            all I can say back is AMEN!!!

        • http://naver samurai

          What? His hands are as dirty as my wife’s after working in her flower garden, moron! He’s just very well connected and this keeps him out of prison. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Granny Mae

            samurai,

            I wonder what our government offices would look like if all the liars, cheats and thieves were escorted out of office ? Hmm. Probably a lot of empty offices !

          • http://naver samurai

            I 100% agree with you Granny Mae. Let’s see how quiet the White House gets after November 2, 2012. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Granny Mae

            I’m with you !!!!

        • Granny Mae

          Robert Smith,

          Barney got hooked up with a creep huh? He is a creep ! He hooked himself up with a creep, nobody else did it for him ! He is a liar a cheat and a thief ! He lies about everything he does, he cheat at every opportunity and he is a thief because he steals from us taxpayers and gets away with it ! He is a bold faced creep !

    • Kinetic1

      Dennis,
      It’s only a double standard if the Left is calling for him to resign, and I don’t think that’s the case. When a Congressman is caught cheating (and lately it seems to be the Republicans who keep getting caught) the “family values” contingency calls for them to resign. It doesn’t matter which party he’s with, the call comes out. The difference is that the Democrats are less likely to demand that he resign, while the Republicans, worried about their image with the Christian Right are quick to call for heads to roll.

      Outside of sex scandals, I agree that criminals, if found guilty of a “real crime” need to go. I too am disappointed in the Democratic party for not forcing Rangle out. What a politician does in his personal life is of little concern to me, but when he uses the power of is office for personal gain in a way that breaks the law, that we can not stand for.

      • Granny Mae

        Kinetic1,

        It is just like I said a liar is a liar, a cheat is a cheat and a thief is a thief. You can’t separate them by degree of the lie, the cheat or the thief. Today it may be small and insignificant but tomorrow it could be the Wells Fargo bank ! Given the opportunity a small thief will become a big thief. To a liar every lie is just a little white lie. Cheating on ones wife is just a little indesgression and personal even though a child comes from that cheat and a cancer ridden wife is dying in mental torment from that little personal cheat, and lets don’t forget using the tax payers money from election funds used to pay off that little personal cheat ! It all starts out small and personal and ends up on the world wide web !
        Sickening !

        • Granny Mae

          It doesn’t seem to me to matter what party you belong to, they all get a pass in one way or another. I haven’t seen anyone go to prison for their crimes, be they democrat or republican. It is past time to raise the standards and insist they be followed and if they aren’t then the punishment should be significant ! I thought this was a government of the people for the people and by the people. Well people you are getting just what you permit. What the H…E…double tooth picks are we waiting for ? Set that expectation bar up there so they have to work hard to achive success. If these men have to practice celebacy while they are away from home so be it. Don’t they expect their wives to do the same ? It is time for change and here is where we start !

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Granny Mae,
            I might be wrong in my thinking, but I always thought a leader was supposed to set the example!! If what we have in Washington are setting the example then we are in very deep doo!!!

          • kate8

            Joe H. – We’ve been in deep doo for quite a while now.

          • Granny Mae

            Joe H.

            There was a time when that might have been so but not anymore ! It is up to us to give them the standards we want them to follow and see to it they stick to it. We can’t trust them to handle it by themselves. We are reaping the results of a permissive society. These young men and women today were mostly raised by parents that allowed them to do their thing while growing up, so now they are grown and they have now self restraints ! They should have learned these things when they were little, now they have to learn them as adults and it is a harder lesson to learn !

      • libertytrain

        “I too am disappointed in the Democratic party for not forcing Rangle out. What a politician does in his personal life is of little concern to me..”
        I used to think that I thought what a politician does/did in his personal life wasn’t my concern. I think I was wrong. I think it does in fact reflect the person, what he is capable of doing, not doing, what kind of resolve he owns, what kind of self-discipline he possesses. It’s the measure of the man (or woman). It is part of the total person and politicians in particular are here to serve us, not us serve them. It’s an honor and should be thought of us such, perhaps is by those few left to understand the duty they have taken on.

        • kate8

          libertytrain – Does anyone even know if those on the Left who were exposed for their crimes and misdeeds ever made any restitution? Because I’ll bet there is a good chance that nothing ever came of it at all.

          How would we know? It just always seems to go away for them.

          • libertytrain

            It does seem to go away for them – reminds me of the “good old boy” logic. Now they are the good old boys that make everything go away.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            This is my point also. Who takes care of all these things and why don’t we know about it and why don’t we have a say in what goes down? They just seem to fade away and we forget it !

        • Granny Mae

          libertytrain,

          You are right. The way a person conducts his life is of concern to us especially if he or she is to become a political leader. Just like movie stars, the politician , once in the ring, no longer has a private and personal life . Their lives become an open book , out there for all to see. What we see is a measure of the man or woman. We need to choose and measure carefully.

          • libertytrain

            You are correct. They intentionally chose to give up the private life. Though I did find it interesting how certain children of politicians are attacked by the “news” people – I don’t believe there’s any reason acceptable for that.

          • Granny Mae

            Boy I agree with you there. In that case it is not the politicians life that is being exposed it is a childs and that in my book is off limits! I’m not concerned so much with the kids as I am with the politician. It would be a shame if we lost the opportunity to recieve the benefits of certain politicians because some idiot reporter made public facts that have nothing to do witha persons leadership. I think reporters in those kinds of cases should have their lives become an open book also ! They might temper their reports to include only the facts that are relavent to the politician!

  • kate8

    Exactly, TIME. Other beloved democrats are well-known for their sexual promiscuity, such as JFK and MLK. Yet it left no stain on their legacies.

    Such behavior is rampant in Washington. So the quesion is, why does the media occasionally single someone (most often conservative) out?

    And since Clinton still holds the title of king of the lying dogs, it brings up another issue of our current liar in chief, who’s been outed as engaging in gay trysts and frequenting gay bath houses. He tops Clinton by a long shot, but then, his life is kept under wraps.

    • Robert Smith

      Awwww kate8… How’s ’bout some proof about that one.

      Quite frankly I think it’s another right wing lie.

      Rob

      • TIME

        So Robbie,
        Are you saying that Pictures lie?
        Are you saying that Bobbie used his power to cover up what John was doing is all a lie?
        Are you saying that the SS and the FBI all lied about John’s affairs?
        Or are you saying that Bill is not into getting head?

      • kate8

        Clinton and Obama have BOTH had people murdered to keep them from talking, R S.

        If you wanted to check it out, you could. But you won’t, because you are a true believer.

        • Granny Mae

          kate8,

          How about JFK and Marilyn Monroe?

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – That, too. Thanks for reminding me.

      • http://naver samurai

        OK moron. How about Clinton saying: “I did not have sex with that woman.” How about Obama bin Laden saying: “I do not believe in spreading the wealth in America.” How about Obama bin Laden saying he was a Christian while campaigning, but was actually a muslim. How about Obama bin Laden saying: “I’ll pull all of our troops out of Iraq within the first 6 months I’m in office.” If I remember right, 50,000 are still there and the number of troop in Afghanistan went way up. Get your facts straight before you post, you arse! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      kate8,
      that’s bubba’s problem it did leave a stain. not only on his legacy but on a dress as well!

      • Al Sieber

        Good one Joe, I can’t stop laughing…..

      • kate8

        Joe H. – LOL. The thing about Clinton is, he’s proud of it. He just continued with his womanizing without remorse.

        Of course, considering who he’s married to, people get it. It’s just not presidential.

        Wait. He and Hil ripped off the WH when they left, too. How pathetic that the democrats can’t find anything better than low-lifes to send there.

        • Granny Mae

          Didn’t I say a thief was a thief ? You can take the pencil from the office or you can take the White House china ! Today it is something small and tomorrow it is the White House China !

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – And then they give the WH TO China!

          • Granny Mae

            Yep ! You got it ! I wonder if they used that china for Chelsie’s wedding? Wait maybe they gave it to her as a wedding gift ! I wonder how much is going to come up missing when the current occupants leave ? I’ll bet if the truth was known, every presidents wife took something from the White House when they left !

  • David Warheit

    Reports have surfaced, he reportedly sent salacious emails, etc., etc. NO! He did do everything alleged and he has admitted as much. If this had been a Democrat, the article would have read something like: This complete sleazeball, this utter disgrace of a human being, etc. etc.

    Rep. Lee did the right thing in resigning in the face of the very bad things he did. Can we expect the same from PLD & Mr. Livingston?

  • barbm

    it doesn’t matter whether you have money or power, almost all men are fickle. til death do us part is just something they mouth. given the opportunity, which power and money do attract a lot of, 9 out of 10 men will jump on it – literally. even Jesus was tempted. either you have morals or you don’t. and, if you’ll cheat, you’ll steal, lie, and break every other commandment. lee may stand with us on the issues, but he is not a moral man. it’s time we expect our leaders to be better than that. they should be shining examples of the best america has to offer in every way – intelligence, honesty, morality.

  • ONTIME

    Good riddance, Lee has acted like he was one of the untouchables in the Sotero party and the Republicans are just now regainning the position of trust they need to gain the support of the Tea Party and independents as well as the Real Republicans in the party.

    Lee is exactly what neither party should have among it’s ranks but I wish he had been a Deemer….

  • http://com i41

    That is why I support one term, sit out 2, at least no matter what party get the hell out of office. Every tax cheat if had to abide by civilian rules for not paying taxes and being caught, you become a convicted felon, bythe Sop manual for Congressional elected officals they are to lose all their retirement and benefits. So Geeithner, Daschle, Rangel Waters and on down the line should be living on their SS. Same for Willie who was disbarred and lyied under oath so he should be living off his wealth he scammed off of people. Of course if you want to gain statue in the democrat party, get caught stealing, whoring, pimping and runnning a male whorehouse like Blarney Fwanks, and anything perverted, but the ability to escape prosecution, when committing a murder like Drunk Driver Kennedy and fleeing the murder scene, or multi questionable deaths to Whorehound, only makes you a pillar of the party.

    • Granny Mae

      i41,

      This is just what I’m talking about. We know all these things and still these people keep getting re-elected. Kennedy should have never been able to go into politics after that whole Chapaquidik thing. His escapades never quit until he got to old to move ! We are getting just what we permit and so we can’t complain until we start raising the bar !

      • kate8

        Granny Mae – Oh yeah! Yet another liberal who got away with murder!

        That’s what’s so nuts. Here we have people in places of power who commit high crimes, often openly, often admitted, and in any case proven, and they still go on to command power as if it never happened!

        Yet we only go after the ones who can be taken down easily.

        If the whole foundation is full of termites, you can replace a rotten board here and fix a leak there, but the house is still going to fall at some point.

        • Granny Mae

          yes that is right. I have wondered for ever what in the world the people of Mass. were thinking of when they gave the youngest Kennedy a free pass! I know, it was all the promises and the Kennedy family is so prominant. Maybe they felt that Teddy just coulden’t get another job because he wasn’t qualified to do anything else ! All these kids from these big rich families grow up to have power over you and I and the families that we raised to have morals and integrity. I’m telling you we need to raise the standard and hold all of them to it !

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Granny Mae,
            right!!! I remember reading where one of Teddys cousins(?) was arrested for Murder or was it rape?? Maybe both!!

          • kate8

            Joe H – I remember that, too. There was a big trial and everything. I think it was rape of a young girl, like maybe another relative.

            Quite the colorful family, I’d say.

          • Granny Mae

            Joe H

            It was both. He attacked her and then he killed her and got away with it for years, but then he finally got caught up with. There was a lot of that sort of thing going on in that whole big family. One of the cousins did something like that down in Florida on Ted Kennedy’s property too. Wow ! Just give me my simple minded family. My dad was a man of integrity all the time and everyone that met him respected him including his children ! When my mom died he said he lost his best friend and I don’t think he ever got over that. He was truly a man of honor and it was by his example that I chose my husband ! Mom and dad both loved my man and always held him in high respect ! I knew I had the right man when I saw my man on his knees in church. To me he never stood so tall as when he was on his knees in prayer ! I always knew he was a proud man but when I saw him humble himself before God I knew I had the right man !

        • Maribeth

          Kate try loving your neighbor as thyself.

      • Maribeth

        Do not judge others, lest you be judged. Look in the mirror.

        • kate8

          Mairbeth – I wholly admit to being flawed. Since you chose to single me out, how about yourself?

          What is your point? That we should look the other way when people commit murder? When they betray their countrymen? What is it you are saying?

          Just curious about where you’re coming from.

        • Granny Mae

          Maribeth,

          There are important times when we must judge others. If we didn’t we would be overrun with corruption, about like now ! Keeping in mind that we might be judged also we must not speculate or gossip but use facts in our judgement. Just like being called to jury duty! You can quote bible saying till the cows come home but keep in mind that it is not good to take scripture out of context as even in the Bible there is the exception to the rule !

  • chuckb

    one thing you an say about the demo’s, when they get involved in something contrary to a good life style, they don’t even bother to say i’m sorry, they just say “so what”, lets move on! the wimpy republicans retire.

  • http://com i41

    Robert Smith, is that your realname or is a socialist cover. Read Onumnutts books, His prized roping mare Michelle didn’t want him putting it facts in his books. Muslims are able to use and abuse their own children as a dog, boys are non sexual obects until 10 to use as the male member wants to. When Blarney Flanks had drugs growing in his basement, andrunning his young male whorehouse, Blarney was carring on with the madam/mister as a close friend. Claiming he had no idea, yes just like Geithner, Daschle, Randel and Waters had no idea they owed taxes. Janet Reno had Whorehound by the short hairs on his involvement in drug shipping because he was a 1/2 owner in a plane that DEA had followed on several shipments, also check to see how many State Police officers died of mysterios ways and times. Reno had the paper work and either she became a Fed AG or she let the info go public, some more facts for you soros socialist smucks can defend. Blarny’s sister the dem Tex. Govonor GW defeated was always worriedabout her faggot brother abusing young males. The pride of the socialist democrat party.

  • jopa

    Attacks on some of the greatest Americans of all time like Bill Clinton JFK MLK and President Obama.Your heroes are Christopher Lee,Larry Craig, Johnn Ensign, Dave Vitter,and that guy trying to seduce the male pages and resigned.I called the republican party the party of death in the past but I guess it’s more of the party of perverts.Are you all members of Haggards new church your little hugabee Teddy bear.

    • kate8

      jopa, Only you liberals canonize your politicians. We on the Right see them for what they are: flawed human beings who sometimes do good things, but are subject to making errors. There are those we admire and appreciate, and I would name Ronald Reagan. Yet, I also know that he was human, and I didn’t always agree with him. I admire Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Mark Rubio…but, there legacies are yet to be made, and they will, no doubt, make their share of mistakes.

      JFK and MLK were far from saints. They did good things, and they did bad things. They were both well-known womanizers. MLK has illegitimate children. No better than those to whom you point fingers. You also have Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Clinton, the uber-wealthy, cheating trial lawyer whose wife just died of cancer (his name escapes me)and a host of others. And don’t even get me started on Obama. We could sit here and volley politicians all day, and the result would be the same.

      People who hold office come out of a nation of people, and reflect the values of those people. They are you and they are me. Hero worship is for those who feel small and powerless within themselves.

  • mark

    It is amazing the hate of you conservatives. You can feel the hate in your letters!

    • kate8

      mark – You, my good sir, are projecting. The only hate you can feel comes from within yourself.

  • jopa

    Kate8:Bachman, Palin, Rubio and Christies legacies are yet to be made is quite an understatement.What have any one of them done for anything other than what a couple did for self gain?

    • kate8

      jopa – As usual, everyting I said went right on over your head. Sigh.

      Actually, Sarah Palin did a lot to clean up politics in Alaska. What all of them have done is give conservatives hope for humanity. They have stood up for what they believe, for what they know is right, for the integrity of our Constitutional Republic.

      I ask you, what have your gods done, other than tighten the stranglehold on our liberty? Our country is in the process of total collapse, and Obama parties. We are the laughing stock of the world.

      Being that our ideas of what constitutes “good” are quite different, there is no point in discussing politicians. Since they are really no different than you and me, it’s foolish to set expectations too high. Power always tends to corrupt, to a greater degree with some than others. Like the Gipper used to say, trust, but verify.

  • chuckb

    kate8

    the progressives have not taken into account the record of their hero’s when they toss their insults:
    mlk: a fraud, womanizer, rabble rouser, communist connections and why did they lock up his records for 50 years?

    gary condit, suspected of murder and they just recently railroaded some homeless guy for that murder and without proper evidence.(typical democrat)

    ted kennedy, numerous accusations of womanizing, remember chappaquiddick? total alcholic

    jfk, womanizer, but, probably the best of the democratic presidents.
    he and jackie were both very active with other sex partners and turned the white house into a brothel.

    i could go on and on from johnson to rangel. the democrats hold all the records

  • http://com i41

    jopa, I see all of your heroes were confermined rapists, murders, whorehounds, tax cheaters, had close mafia mob connections, didn’t just try and solictate sexual relations, but grqbbed any available orfice, wheather agreeing or fighting back, also ran male prostitation ring as well as growing drugs, transporting illegal class 1 drugs, by the plane loads, while a supposed leader of a state, no wonder you soros socialists follow blindly dictators. Must be because you have a electrical snapus problemn in the space twix your ears., with out any grounding or tight connections. Republicans resign and go into obscuraty, instead dumbocrats become puke leader of the socialist party and keep trying to climb the ladder of the marrxist/communist party, if you ccan get a confirmed kill like Uncle Teddy you have hit the jackpot as a part slug.

  • kate8

    i41 – I just read where Soro is working (and funding) to end all elections for judgeships everywhere. He wants them all by appointment.

    His goal is to eliminate all conservative judges, so they’ll have all three branches sewn up.

    The greater goal for them is to have a completely one party system in America. That’s what tyrants do.

    • Granny Mae

      kate8,

      It’s all part of the one world government. They have to be able to destroy our constitution and eliminate every thing dependent on elections in order to force us into the one world government. That is also why so much of our industry has gone out of the country. We won’t have that to hang on to and be self supporting in order to resist becoming part of the one world government ! It is scary but we are a lot closer than anyone can imagine. We must be strong and fight with everything we have. All this business in Egypt is not good, and the trouble going on in the Sudan is also not good. I have not been able to contact my friends in Africa and in the Sudan or Jordan for over a week now and that has me real worried. They would contact me if they could ! We need to be vigilant.

      • kate8

        Granny Mae – That is why it is so important that we begin to turn the tide. Time is short.

        We can’t do this by fighting on the physical level. “The war is not with flesh and blood but with spirits and principalities.” This means that the war is for our minds. We are being controlled by media to instill fear in us, helping the NWO to create the hell they have in mind for us. When most of us believe we are powerless agianst them, they win. (Isn’t this what governments always do?)

        That’s why I say that we need to hold to the VISION THAT WE WANT, not the one THEY want. This is the game. When enough of us reclaim our God-given power to create our world, the NWO will retreat to the hell they tried to impose on us.

        As I said, there is only ONE WAY. We need to be praying, asking God to awaken Divine LOVE in our hearts. Most of us don’t have a clue about love, let alone LOVE. LOVE is the only true healer. We don’t need to strive for it, either, but we do need to ask for it, because if we desire it, it is already within us.

  • http://com i41

    kate8, don’t forget the rat Onumnutts is still having his radical domestic terrorist leech lawyers, all who hate America, are still working on the jug eared marxist muslim’s dream plan of government taking over all private property. Soros and hillary with Onumnutts have been handing over handing our soveriegn rights to the dictator run UN, the fastest that has ever happend in past history. The outlawing of private property all over the world was passed by the UN as a mandate in 2007. In the democrap banking reform bill, guess who got away from any regulations on the mega hedge fund groups. That right George Soros is the largest player in the fund, who has been buying up pretty muchall the commodities, like wheat, meats, crude, and any other commodity that is needed for life and ability to survive, Think the Nazi Traitor socialist and money man of the democrat party for decades give a rats rear if people and the USAare destroted. I can never figure out why the Soros socialist democrats will not reply why the defend such a scum bag and who the democrat slubs can defend his distructive attitude towards America? Kate8, chuckb, and Grannie Mae, if Normie, flushman, Big Baby John, eddee mark or any other progressive retarded liberal soros socialist responds on defending the marxist/communist democrat positions of defending their love fest with this ideology. Please remember id I’m gone working find out their mndset for me.

    • Granny Mae

      i41,

      I really hate to open up and say what I believe because it sounds so far out there but my friend you are right. We are in a lot of trouble and it is because people don’t see and when you try to tell them it is so scary they don’t want to believe or face it. But we better face it real soon and do something about it or all hope will be gone ! Obama is a lot more powerful than anyone can imagine because of who is behind him.

      • kate8

        Granny Mae, there are many of us who have taken ahold of our fear and boldly looked anyway. How often have we spent sleepless nights, shaking in horror at what we’ve seen. It’s definitely not for the weak minded, which seem to be most folks.

        But we walk through that “valley of the shadow of death”, until we come to the point where we “fear no evil”. It’s like the terrifying nightmares, where we finally dare to face the monster at the door, and realize that he is nothing fearsome at all…but is only a projection of our own mind!

        I’m telling you, it’s time to see the NWO for what it is: little men behind a curtain who project themselves upon a large screen in order to frighten us. It’s an illusion of the mind, as the mind is the last frontier of control. The thing is, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE UNLESS WE ALLOW IT.

        There is ONE who is greater than the greatest of men, who is above the illusion of duality of this world. I AM has no opposite, for all things are projections contained therein.

        We cannot serve two masters. We either place our faith in the powers of this world, or we place our faith in the only TRUE POWER.

        • Granny Mae

          Kate8,

          I agree with you. I turned my fear over a long time ago and seeing how so many on here all have open eyes I know that our Lord has given us to each other for support. I hope we can support others that are going to need it soon. I have some missionary friends and some other religious friends in the middle east and what they have been going through lately is very worrisome to me. I pray for their safety everyday and that is about al I can do until I hear from them and find out what has happened to them. We keep in contact at least twice a week and I haven’t heard from them in a couple of weeks now. I am friends with the secretary of the Cardinal in Khartoom Sudan and the only thing I have heard in his regards was a small clip on EWTN the other day that the Cardinal had reported that they were being threatened there ! It is the muslim government there that is doing it. Another of my young friends just got married and moved to Jordan with her husband who is in college there and the last I heard from her was about two weeks ago and she said she was afraid and would get back to me in a few days to explain what was going on and I have had no word from her either! I hope I hear from them soon! I am praying for their safety.

          • kate8

            Granny Mae – I’ll pray for your friends, as well

            Godspeed.

          • Granny Mae

            Kate8,

            Thanks for your graciousness. I will accept all prayers on their behalf ! Thanks. God Bless

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