My George Zimmerman Moment

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Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. President Barack Obama can’t stop comparing himself, or the son he never had, to Trayvon Martin. And he can’t stop talking about race. Everything in Obama’s world is black and white. This is not America’s first “post-race President.” This is America’s first “all race, all the time President.”

I see the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case very differently. For me, it was never about black or white. It was always about life or death — for Zimmerman. You see, 36 years ago, I was Zimmerman. Thirty-six years ago, I almost died in a life or death struggle eerily similar to Zimmerman’s confrontation. Let me tell you the story.

In 1977, at the age of 15, I attended Mount Vernon High School in Mount Vernon, N.Y., one of the most dangerous and violent urban schools in America. Guns and knives were rampant. Assaults were a daily occurrence. Every walk through the hallway was an opportunity to be beaten or robbed. Lunchtime was an opportunity to have your lunch extorted by someone threatening your life. And worst of all were the bathrooms. All the decent kids at Mount Vernon High School knew we were taking our lives in our hands if we went to the bathroom, so we didn’t. We learned to hold it in all day until we got home — for fear of being robbed or beaten in the filthy, dangerous bathrooms where hoods, gang members and drug dealers hung out.

The school was about 85 percent black. I was white. But being white wasn’t the problem. Being a good kid was the problem. It’s wasn’t black versus white. It was good versus bad. The good black kids were as readily beaten up and intimidated as the good white kids.

Like Zimmerman, I decided I wanted to make a difference — for white and black kids. I was sick of the crime violence, intimidation and fear. I spent the summer lifting weights and taking boxing lessons, bulked up and, upon my return to school, volunteered to become a marshal. That meant I was part of our volunteer school police force. We were unarmed, but carried badges and walkie-talkies. Our job was to police the halls and prevent crime, drug dealing and cutting classes.

Like Zimmerman, we weren’t supposed to engage, only observe and call for help. But, as you might surmise, it doesn’t always work out that way.

In the late spring of 1977, I faced a “George Zimmerman moment.” As I patrolled an empty hallway in my high school, I spotted a gangbanger smoking and listening to loud music when he was supposed to be in class. I confronted and told him, “You’re coming with me.” The kid wheeled around and pulled a gigantic knife. In court it was classified as a machete (with a blade longer than 8.5 inches). He lunged at me, and I grabbed his wrist. We wrestled to the ground, with him on top. A much bigger kid than me, he was soon winning the struggle and was about to stick the machete into my head.

If I had had a gun, I certainly would have used it to save my life. That was the choice Zimmerman faced. What Obama and the race-baiters call murder is self-defense. Those who make the race-baiters happy by not fighting back are… dead. After the fact, they’re called “victims.”

I got lucky. As my life was about to be extinguished, a principal emerged from his office to check on the commotion.  Like Zimmerman, I’m sure no one knew which of us was screaming in my life-or-death struggle, but my screams saved my life. The principal shouted: “Hey, you! Drop that knife.” The kid ran. The principal raced to my side. I told him what happened. Together, we chased down my assailant in the school courtyard. I lived to tell this story.

Zimmerman’s critics call him “a police wannabe.” I guess you could say I was a “police wannabe,” too. How rude. You know what that means? Zimmerman and I cared about our community. I cared about my fellow classmates. He cared about his fellow homeowners. We both cared about right and wrong. We wanted to protect and serve. We wanted to make a difference. And we volunteered to put our lives on the line — for no pay.

Should someone like that be punished, vilified and put in prison or respected, celebrated and recognized by society? I believe that at the least, that person deserves the benefit of the doubt. I cheer a person who volunteers to protect his school or neighborhood. If only more Americans were willing to police our streets and schools, we’d all be safer. We should be thanking the George Zimmermans of this world.

And as if on cue to prove my case, just days ago, Zimmerman showed the world what a hero he really is. He came upon a terrible car accident: an overturned SUV on fire, with a family inside. He pulled the family to safety before the police arrived. Yes, that George Zimmerman risked his life to save a family from being burned alive. Even after what our government just put him through. Even after so many Americans threatened his life. Even after the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons asked for Federal charges. Yes, they demanded “double jeopardy” for a man found “not guilty” in a court of law. Still, he risked his life to save others.

You know the biggest irony? Obama is the ultimate “community organizer” and fan of volunteerism. Obama thinks if you volunteer to protest in front of banks to force minority loans or if you fight for welfare and food stamps, you’re a community hero. But if you lay your life on the line to protect your community from criminals, you deserve prison for defending your life. Interesting interpretation.

God forbid you ever find yourself in a life-or-death situation and survive by hurting or killing the bad guy. If the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons have their way, you’ll lose your freedom for the “crime” of self-defense. Unfortunately, our President can now be added to the list of people out to vilify you for trying to clean up your community and protect your fellow man, white or black.

Always remember that Zimmerman was protecting a large number of black homeowners in that community. There was never any racism involved in this case; even the FBI confirmed this after extensive interviews of Zimmerman’s friends and associates. You know what the definition of “racism” is nowadays? Anyone winning an argument with a liberal.

Obama fantasizes that he could have been Trayvon Martin. But 36 years ago, I really was George Zimmerman.

I’m Wayne Allyn Root for PersonalLiberty.com. See you back here next week. Same time, same place. God bless America and protect us from the race-baiters and community organizers out to destroy our country.

Wayne Allyn Root

Wayne Allyn Root is one of America's leading Libertarian-conservative authors. Wayne's new book is The Murder of the Middle ClassWayne is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and Fox News regular. Follow Wayne on Twitter and visit Wayne's web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    On July 19 the Illegal Kriminal pRESIDENTmade a surprise appearance at the White House press briefing room and said:

    There are very few African-American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me.

    Doesn’t the Kenyan Kriminal know that there is a reason for the following?

    BLACKS rob store at same time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=vqh1x1gJv74

    Mob of African American Thieves Swarm and Rob LAS VEGAS Convenience Store http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvfkk5D8-8o

    Youth Mob Robs Store in DC Metro Area http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7V66pwWYnw

    Teens In CHICAGO Attack And Rob People For Fun

    BLACK FLASH MOB ATTACKS WHITE CLERK, DALLAS

    McDonald’s Manager Assaults White Woman & Her Autistic Sons!

    • smilee

      Obama was talking about the rule your talking about the exceptions and every situation has some but spinning the exception and view it as the rule distorts you conclusions.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        No, Obama is talking about Conjecture — things that anybody can say when they have no evidence to support their lip-service. And Obama is talking about his Racism which he tries to foment regularly even though he promised in his campaign to bring the races together.

      • FreedomFighter

        http://standeyo.com/NEWS/13_Pics_of_Day/130725.pic.of.day.b.html

        If a picture is worth a thousand words, here is my thousand.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Whoever wrote O’s speech did not realize that he ended up stereotyping Blacks and O just repeated for emphasis.

  • KG

    36 years ago. you were a punk kid. Everybody knows that the kids who joined ‘the marshals’ were the “moralists” and “puritans” who enjoyed the power associated with being a pseudo “law” enforcer. And thats who Zimmerman was. He thought that by being a “law” enforcer he would be some kind of hero. Turns out he was just itching for a fight, and he got it. Most real policemen will tell you what he did was really stupid. As well as Root’s sob story. You don’t walk up to someone and say “You’re coming with me.” Unless you are a real policeman with a gun. And even then, real Policemen have a tremendous amount of discretion in their duty. He needed to decide was it more important to apprehend this guy, or go to Coopers BBQ for lunch. Most of the ‘good’ kids who get hurt or killed get it by doing what you did. Most people would just mind their own business. If you wanted to be a ‘hero’, why didn’t you try to approach the young man as an equal rather than a superior?

    • Leroy

      KG, if you have never heard of transactional analysis then I suggest you study up on it. Maybe just for once you might try to see the “other” side’s point of view. It appears as if you delight in siding with the criminally minded non-conformist, which has shown in your past posted comments. So you think that, in the situation Root describes, that the wrong doer should have been left alone to break the school rules? I believe that mentality is the reason crime is so prevalent currently. Its okay to break rules and laws and the law-abiders should just turn their heads and go about their business and hope the attention doesn’t turn to them. For heaven’s sake, don’t make eye contact with a thug! It could get you killed.
      I suppose you have heard this many times before, you are an idiot.

      • KG

        I’m OK, your nuts! OK – so much for the “transactional analysis”.

        What I am saying is on a more personal level than the “general Morality” of society. If I am NOT a policeman, I have no business trying to be a policeman. Most people who feel themselves superior to others (Klansmen, southern Baptist, old catholics, etc) cant help themselves from pointing that out to others they feel are inferior to themselves. And that is what “dissin” is all about. To disrespect a person so you feel superior. And that would anger any human being with an ego or feelings. If I see someone doing an illegal act, I could go home and call the Police rather than risking injury to myself or my family. And that is not a cop out. That is what people do in a civilization.

        • Deborah Crain

          All right KG, we all know that the cops are doing a wonderful job to thwart crime in the most crime-ridden parts of our cities. the general morality of our society sucks, and I for one do not accept that, and will do what I can to stop criminal activity when I can.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The police arrive in minutes if you’re lucky. Your life can be gone in seconds.
          Those people, who don’t want to be a statistic, will defend themselves.

          • Don 2

            If you’re unlucky enough to live in Detroit, the average wait for police is 58 minutes.

        • Bill

          Kg
          It sounds like you have just described a liberal. And you forgot to say that when liberals speak, they are arrogantly condescending but in reality are really just showing their ignorance

        • got my licence

          What a load, “disrespect a person so you feel superior” is the only reason KG is on this site. Zimmerman is what a American ues to be. A true American ia not a blood line or colour but a attitude and desire for freedom and selfreliance.What has happened is we are becoming a nation of victocrats. Individuals that believe that it is never enough when it comes to had outs and its always someone elses fault when it comes to responsibility. Martin was followed not because of the colour of his skin. He was followed because he appeared to be part of the criminal element.

          • KG

            Yea – back in 1859 when the Negroes knew their place! That’s the America I want!

            Did you get your ‘license’ to be stupid as well?

          • vicki

            ad hominem

        • billybob

          I’m sure the German people must have thought just that when they watched thousands of jews being marched off and put into cattlecars.” I’ll go home and call the police!”
          were they a civilized nation? They did exactly what you said. “I don’t want to get involved because I’m worried about my safety and my families safety.” Sadly it is KG’s of this world that are the problem, not the solution!

          • KG

            If you were in the same situation, do you really think that you would have done any different? Just think about that. Because when the Fascist Republicans take over and start pushing ‘liberals’ into the ovens are you going to fight against them or help them push more humans into the ovens?

          • vicki

            You may get to find out real soon now. Where will YOU be?

          • Charlie

            billybob,,, can you define the 4 types of “”Jews”” as defined in The Bible ???

        • Katrael

          Yeah, your the type who’d walk away from some innocent woman being raped or a kid being molested because you’re not a police officer and you should mind your own business. Are you a coward? I’m mean after all, you certainly couldn’t have a more superior attitude than the rapist or molester. I guess that you’re untrustworthy of helping others?

        • rocketride

          You obviously are laboring under a different definition of “civilization” than the grown-ups here use.

        • vicki

          Looking out for your community is not superiority it is duty to be your brothers keeper. Not by stealing someones wealth at (government) gunpoint to give to your pet “brother” as is suggested by many well known liberals that post here.

          Oh and Leroy did not say you were nuts. He said you were an idiot. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot

          Anyone reading your posts might also come to the same conclusion.

        • Charlie

          KG,,, when is your next mind adjustment appointment ? have your “”Handlers”” make it sooner because you need a new “Tune” or tune-up……………………….

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Leroy says — “Maybe just for once you might try to see the “other” side’s point of view”.
        That might be the case if KGB was here to learn anything. He isn’t. He’s here to interfere with other people learning the concepts of Freedom, and to spread his Failed Communist Propaganda.

        • vicki

          But he is a good foil for us to show the fallacy of the liberalism he claims to espouse. :)

    • Don 2

      I’d much rather have George Zimmerman as a neighbor than a whacko nut like you KG.

      • KG

        I might be your neighbor – how would you know?

        Nighty nite!

        • rocketride

          You could be a Cocker spaniel in Ulan Bator for all we know. That’s the beauty of the internet.

          • KG

            Now, that’s comedy!

        • Don 2

          Nah, you’d have to be a tree to be my neighbor. Anyways, I don’t have any union punks nearby, so that leaves you out!

        • vicki

          We know our neighbors. None have your attitude.

    • guest233

      Whoa..you must be listening to CNN and NBC. Both those networks have been found to be blatently lying about the truth concerning what happened that night to Zimmerman. There is a saying’ lie to me once and shame on you, lie to me again and shame on me’. All the evidence says it was Trayvon looking for a fight. According to trayvons friend, he did make it to his dad’s girlfriends apartment only to double back to confront Zimmerman.He couldn’t let that ‘crazy ass cracker’ get away.And the screams everyone is talking about..Zimmerman screamed 14 times for help before he drew is gun..i do believe trayvon was screaming as well..screaming profanities at Zimmerman to shut the f..up and ‘your gonna die tonight’.One more thing..on trayvons phone..he and his dad were looking for a gun to aquire. Trayvon by all accounts was a violent brutal young man who loved his drugs and his fighting.

      • KG

        Where did you get your info? from that esteemed bastion of utter nonsense called FOX? Irregardless of what Trayvon may have said or did, Zimmerman was the adult and he should have acted like an adult rather than a scared teenager with a superiority complex.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Well he certainly didn’t get his info from the Non-Credible Socialist Progressive that we know as KGB.

        • Robin Palmer

          He got his information from the court proceedings. Are you incapable?

        • Katrael

          At 6′ 3″ Martin wasn’t just a scared teenager. He was looking for trouble by being where he wasn’t supposed to be. If Zimmerman had known who Martin was, ie, a known local peaceful resident, then he wouldn’t have had an issue with Martin. Martin could have said “Hi Mr. Z and then just go on about his business. Instead Martin turned feral and attacked Zimmerman.

          • KG

            That’s what sheriff Harry Lee said in New Orleans 20 years ago.

            “If there are some young blacks driving a car late at night in a predominantly white neighborhood, they will be stopped. There’s a pretty good chance they’re up to no good. It’s obvious two young blacks driving a rinky-dink car in a predominantly white neighborhood—I’m not talking about on the main thoroughfare, but if they’re on one of the side streets and they’re cruising around—they’ll be stopped.”

          • Katrael

            You seem to be an obtuse man. Apparently this neighborhood that Zimmerman lived in had been besieged by frequent burglaries where at least one of them had been committed by a black youth. Zimmerman had made 46 calls about problems in his neighborhood to the authorities in the previous 14 months and those authorities had shown no concern as to the frequency of Zimmerman’s calls; they thought it was normal and proper.

            It’s not that Martin didn’t have a right to walk down the street it’s just that Martin looked suspicious and out of place to Zimmerman. Now why did Zimmerman call Martin a punk? Did Martin egg Zimmerman on before the final confrontation? I don’t know. It’s apparent that the two men didn’t know each other and that Zimmerman had plenty of reason to suspect Martin’s presence there on a rainy night.

          • KG

            46 calls in 14 months? That’s almost 4 calls a month. How many times have you called the Police in your whole life? It seems as though Zimmerman was the neighborhood busybody who had to get into everyone’s business rather than someone really worried about real crime. I imagine the Police at the station –

            Hello, APD, how can I help you?

            There’s a young Black man walking down the street!

            (…huh? Oh it’s that Zimmerman guy again….)

            No worrys Mr Zimmerman, He’s probably just going to visit his girlfriend or something

            BBBUUTTT HES BBBBLACK! I’m Scarred!!!

          • vicki

            IF Martin had been a scared teenager he would have gone home and STAYED inside. Maybe even called the police.

          • Katrael

            Good point. Why didn’t he call the police instead of talking with his girlfriend? I really have a problem with this case. I hadn’t been following it at all. It’s not that I don’t care about the death of Martin because that is a tragedy, but I knew from the beginning that the media was going to spin this in the wrong direction. The bottom line is that I’m having to do research so that I can make an attempt at some kind of a factual response. I see this case, not as one of race but as another way for our government to continue to take our rights away.
            There are things that I really don’t know and I’ve been getting conflicting stories.
            Also, people like Robbie and KG bother me. I know I shouldn’t let them get to me but Robbie’s from Canada and they have their own problems there. Why does he worry so over our business? KG sounds like a flaming liberal and it really sounds as if he’s just looking for responses? I know there are others on this site that are like Robbie and KG but I have so little time to read everything here. You really sound as if you have yourself collected? Sorry about the long reply. Live well and prosper. .

        • vicki

          Argument to ridicule

      • rg2142

        You are right, and the race baiters wanted Zimmerman arrested and prosecuted, well they got that, but that’s not what they really wanted they thought it was supposed to include hung by the neck until dead. Hussein Obama, is a spineless worm. And you and your Bimbo friend Hillary, and little boy and yes man eric are guilty of murder and treason in Benghazi, you three punks, orchestrated the whole attack, then partied afterward when you gave the stand down order to cover-up the death facts. You think Zimmerman is worried about daily death threats, I think not, hes the real deal. You don’t deserve to be called black, you are a little nothing. before your done patying at the WH you will be on trial for treason.

        • Thomas Jones

          The fact is you a punk white who does not deserve ti live a country where we are all Equal. Go somewhere overseas and stay there.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re a racist, Thomas. You don’t want equality, you want special privilege.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Where does your Equality come from? Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc., they make you Equal and give you Equality at what COST?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You accuse people of racism, yet by your words you condemn yourself to being a worse racist.

          • rocketride

            And so well-spoken, too.

      • rocketride

        According to the autopsy results, Trayvon’s liver said that he loved the drugs way too much. I’m guessing that his brain was similarly shop-worn.

    • wowlikewow

      you too kg, you as big an idiot as rustabutt!!!

      • smilee

        Difference being, KG told the truth in a civilized manner you just ranted and raved about nothing showing your irrelevant.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Yes, KGB revealed his disrespectful Socialist tendencies quite well with — “36 years ago. you were a punk kid” and “Most real policemen will tell you what he did was really stupid. As well as Root’s sob story”.

          • KG

            Oh, and you are a shining knight of civility?
            It’s time to be honest about ourselves, or is that too scary to contemplate?

          • Vigilant

            KG’s really blown a fuse today. I enjoy watching communists melt down.

    • Bill

      Everybody is an expert but no one was there

    • billybob

      KG has a very good point. The moralist are out numbered by the degenerates and sicko’s of this world. All we have to do is look around us. You find them in high places or power. I could name them but they do a much better job with the liberal media. Real police do not use discretion ask Rodney King! Ask the two or three hundred people that they have killed in the streets when they out number the suspect fifty to one. Also Police come after the crime has been committed not before. KG’s attitude is you should submit to the thugs. You should turn your eyes and pretent not to see and you should let the thugs of the world rule. Moralist’s see wrong, the brave try to stop it. Cowards see wrong and they run.

    • Katrael

      That’s what’s wrong with this country: people like you would just mind their own business and turn a blind eye to crime and yet your attitude is that we need guns to protect ourselves like the police do. Hmm, seems like Zimmerman had one.

    • Vigilant

      “Turns out he was just itching for a fight, and he got it.”

      Yes, KG, we know that in your fevered and atrophied brain you interpret a man disengaging and returning to his car as a man “just itching for a fight.”

      Then, unbelievably, KG says, ” If you [W.A.R] wanted to be a ‘hero’, why didn’t you try to approach the young man as an equal rather than a superior?”

      Right. What parallel universe do you live in?

      • KG

        I lived in Southern California for 20 years and worked in some of the toughest neighborhoods you could imagine. I know “whatz up”. So don’t go bragging that your morality is any better than any other human being trying to live on this planet.

        • Vigilant

          The subject was YOUR morality, not mine. And communists are morally bankrupt, as the (intelligent) world knows.

          • KG

            So, the US forces in Iraq who focused radar dishes on family homes and microwaved whole families, including babies, were NOT “morally bankrupt”?

            Waderboarding prisoners 10-20 times a day – that’s NOT “morally bankrupt”?

            Having given huge tax breaks to giant companies who raped middle class America of her wealth – that’s NOT “morally bankrupt”?

            I think you moral compass need adjustment.

          • Vigilant

            Having trouble staying on target? Once again, the subject was YOUR morality, not mine (or that of the USG).

            Iraq? Waterboarding? Corporate cronyism?”. Tell me, oh Red one, what in the blue blazes does that have to do with the topic?

            I think your mental acuity needs adjustment. Shopworn Alinsky tactics carry no water here.

          • KG

            You , or your ‘ilk’, supported all of those actions and didn’t see the need to address the ‘morality’ of it. And don’t say something silly like “..oh I didn’t vote for…” or “I don’t advocate..” something that YOU wanted! If you think that you are somehow “morally” superior to ANY HUMAN BEING, then you, my friend, are in big trouble. Because that would mean YOU are ‘G-d’. And He don’t like competition. That’s why He hates religion.

          • Vigilant

            Talk about trying to be God. Suddenly you’re privy to my thoughts and morality? You don’t have a clue as to what I “wanted” or want. THAT’S between my Creator and me, and I doubt you’ve ever walked on water.

            Oh yes, the “morality” of those things you mentioned may indeed be addressed, and has been in the past, on forums that dealt with those subjects and in the proper context. You, sonny, will not dictate the trend of conversation by fiat, as you are attempting to do here.

            In a forum dealing with George Zimmerman, you take the conversation off into the weeds because you have lost the argument. I ain’t takin’ the bait, dude.

          • KG

            Being that you seem to be a sycophant, or ‘bootlicker’ of the fascist Republican/Libertarian/Nazi side of America, I can read just enough of your mind to know what evil lurks there in the name of “righteousness”. All modern day Pharisees exhibit these same characteristics. That’s why when the time comes for people like you to push the modern day Jews (liberals) into the ovens, you will gladly oblige with a click of your jackboots.

            I know we were talking about the Zimmerman verdict. And I hoped there would be a realization of the human factor here. But I know that you gave your heart to Jesus, because you have no heart. You are so ‘heavenly minded” that you are no ‘earthly good’.

          • Vigilant

            “I can read just enough of your mind to know what evil lurks there in the name of “righteousness.”

            If you have the talent of mind reading, you should be on the stage…one leaves in an hour.

            “I know we were talking about the Zimmerman verdict. And I hoped there would be a realization of the human factor here.”

            No, you hoped to divert the thread with an unrelated subject. Shall we talk about the price of tea?

            “But I know that you gave your heart to Jesus, because you have no heart.”

            Wrong again. I am not a Christian. Forget the mind reading, keep your day job.,

          • KG

            So, you are a natural jerk. Figures.

          • Charlie

            KG,,, your agent “”Provocateur”” status is showing ,,,but,,, keep rattling on so we can find IF? your brain was “adjusted” in East Los Angeles or West Hollywood….
            Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing.
            Acts 2:38 is salvation…

          • KG

            Charlie, stop being a Pharisee. And see the truth of G-d’s grace and mercy for all.

            Luke 18 (King James Version)

            18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?

            19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

            20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

            21 And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.

            22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

            23 And when he heard this, he was very sorrowful: for he was very rich.

            24 And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!

            25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle’s eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

            26 And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved?

            27 And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.

            Acts 16 (King James Version)
            30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
            31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

          • Charlie

            KG,,,,, your Scriptures are not in context or harmonized with your points……………

          • KG

            Face it, charlie, You are not in context or harmonized. I guess your ‘possessions’ are weighing you down a bit. There was a prophet who sang about this. His name was John Lennon.

          • Charlie

            KG,,,,, your Scriptures are not in context or harmonized with your points……………

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What a load of Socialist Progressive claptrap, KGB.
            Straw man argument.

          • Bruceb64

            Don’t worry, KG and his type always try to point the finger, and change topic when they can’t win.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            KGB says — “So, the US forces in Iraq who focused radar dishes on family homes and microwaved whole families, including babies, were NOT “morally bankrupt”?”.

            Of course they would be, KGB (if even true). So explain to us why you support Big Government with all its coercive Power?

          • KG

            Its funny when you use Big as a magical adjective to make something seem ‘evil’. What about the Big Rich? Or the Big Hedgefund managers? Or how about Big Egos, such as yourself? Our government has a tremendous amount of power, not from selfish, libertarians who only want the wealthy to prosper because their ‘special’, but from the People who wish for what Thomas Jefferson quoted so elegantly in the Preamble of our Constitution (you know, the part you selfish republican/libertarian/nazis hate?).

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directed-energy_weapon

  • Roustabout

    the coward speaks again. What a liar!!

    • wowlikewow

      your an idiot.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Prove he is a liar.
      Who is the LIAR – the ILLEGAL pRESIDENT by name:
      Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barrack Obama a.k.a. Barrack Dunham a.k.a. Barry Dunham a.k.a. Barry Soebarkah a.k.a. Barak Mounir Ubayd a.k.a. HARRISON J. BOUNEL

      Choose one you like the best.

  • Robbie

    The problem with Root’s story is that in his case the fellow with the knife should not have been doing what he was doing. In the Zimmerman case Martin was innocently walking home from the grocery store when he was confronted by Zimmerman who should not have been provoking a situation. That difference is crucial.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The jury, who certainly had more facts at hand than a biased Liberal Progressive, thought differently.

      • Thomas Jones

        To Original Dave H: If the jury was African-American then Zimmerman would be in prison now running from the brothers.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          That was a racist comment, Thomas.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Is Zimmerman black? I thought the juries were supposed to be a jury of your peers. My, my how things have changed when we weren’t looking.

    • DavBow

      The “crucial” difference is Zimmerman was walking back to his vehicle. Martin had reached his dad’s place, where he had been staying, but decided to double back and lie in wait for Zimmerman, who he then attacked and knocked to the ground, and was slamming his head against the concrete. Is that the action of a real civic minded law abiding person? Where do you get off twisting the facts to make Martin look like an innocent kid? Get a life!

      • billybob

        I can’t tell if Robbie is just plain stupid or lives in a worlld of make believe. He would last around three minutes in that situation. Or maybe he would have never gotten involved in the first place. There seems a lot of that going around. As is the wont of the leftist media, there has been several stories on who’s house Trayvon was staying at. One story says it was his fathers house another story says its his father’s girlfriend house. I point that out because I believe that the media likes to make stuff up to suit their agenda.

        • Katrael

          There’s no doubt that what you say about the media is true. As far as Robbie is concerned: he’s more dangerous than all of the gun crazed nuts he’s terrified of. He wants to leave our children undefended and open to slaughter. All citizens, especially teachers need to be trained and armed so they can protect our precious children. As far a Martin is concerned he was a six foot three inch man who was where he shouldn’t have been and who was looking for trouble.

        • rocketride

          The two are not mutually exclusive. He could be both stupid and living in a world of make-believe.

          The main thing I have noticed is that when both of those things are going on together, the resulting worlds of make-believe are distinctly sub-par.

      • rocketride

        The other difference: Zimmerman called the police (a non-emergency number) while Martin evidently felt so direly threatened that he called his girlfriend, instead of 911.

    • Glen Welch

      You obviously don’t have a clue what happened. As a neighborhood watch, Zimmerman was where he was supposed to be, doing what he was supposed to do. Martin was not. When asked why he was there, Martin chose to physically attack and attempt to kill Zimmerman. Those are the facts that Zimmerman’s acquittal reflected and brought out. The only racial discrimination appears to have been that of Martin who referred to Zimmerman as a creepy cracker. Imagine if the roles had been reversed and Zimmerman referred to him using the “N” word. Zimmerman would have been convicted and received the highest possible sentence. The travesty here is that it went to trial. Justice? What “should” happen now is for Zimmerman to sue the local government and the media for what they made him go through. It would also be appropriate for him to sue Martin’s parents or guardians for their failure to raise him right and the traumatic events that Zimmerman suffered through due to their negligence, consummated by their public demands that he be taken to trial for “murdering” their son. In my humble opinion, the parents of Martin killed their son by their poor parenting.

      • rocketride

        Don’t forget the other bit of profiling that Martin engaged in, his assumption that Zimmerman’s interest in him was sexual.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So it appears that Martin already participated in male to male sexual transaction sometime in his life otherwise why would he assume such a thing.

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Rachel Jeantel on the Piers Morgan show explained WHY Traywon attacked George Zimmerman.

          She said that Trayvon attacked GZ because “Trayvon Thought Zimmerman was a Gay Rapist and Trayvon Wasn’t ‘That Kind of Way’”
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdSxdSPn7HM

          This case was NOT about RACISM, but HOMOPHOBIA.

          So WHY the illegal pRESIDENT does not cry “HOMOPHOBIA”???

    • Katrael

      I knew I’d find you here bloviating. Mind your own business Robbie. We, the people in this country, have already determined that Martin wasn’t innocent.

      Have you ever been a victim of a violent crime? I don’t think so. You’re just a snot nosed kid who can’t mind his own business. Let’s hope and pray that you’re never the victim of somebody pounding your head into the pavement. You’ll change your mind about this affair quickly.

      Something we haven’t talked about was the crime statistics here prior to the 1960’s. Life was far more peaceful and tranquil then. Something changed. We went from a country of workers to a country of malcontent shirkers and along with that came an explosion of crime.

      Crime rates have varied over time in the United States. American crime rates generally rose after World War II, and peaked between the 1970s and early 1990s. Since the early 1990s, crime has declined in the United States,[5] and current crime rates are approximately the same as those of the 1960s.[2] Wikipedia

      You, with your opinions, had nothing to do with this change in crime here, Your country is rife with violent crime. You need to do something there about that. We’re working on our problems here and getting results while there your crime rate is exploding. We don’t need you or your opinions.

      Root is correct about his experience and the meaning of the public attacks against him.

      • Robbie

        Don’t forget the problem of that sick salmon.

        Oh, by the way, I will continue to contribute to the debate here. Of course you may feel that you don’t need to hear my views but you can skip over my comments easily enough. But as you continue to debate I do get the feeling that you are, indeed, interested. Have a good day – unless you have plans to the contrary.

        • Katrael

          I won’t skip your comments because you and people like you are too dangerous to ignore.

          • Robbie

            Oh good.

          • Katrael

            You want to take away the protection that is needed by our school teachers who need to know how to protect innocent lives like the ones of my grandchildren. It’s your line of thinking that leaves my kids and grandkids open to slaughter because of some crazed criminal with a gun can just stroll into a school that he knows isn’t defended so he can do his evil work. Teachers and all citizens have a responsibility to protect our children from the like of those who would leave them defenseless. All citizens should be armed to the teeth and taught how to use firearms so they can protect our children.

          • Robbie

            My view is that one way of cutting down on the number of mass killings is to insist on total nation wide background checks to weed out mentally ill persons and those with violent criminal records. It’s not a total solution but it would help. Your answer is the one told by the Rick Perry’s of this world and the NRA which is that every teacher should have a gun in class and that armed guards should be hired to stand at every door of every school across America. For one thing that would certainly solve the unemployment problem! That’s a lot of doors.

            But here’s the problem with that. The crazies would simply move down the block to the day care centre. I guess they should ALL be fortified as well but then the nuts would move down to the shopping mall or the bus stop or the cab stand or the factory or the post office or the bank or the gas station or the grocery stores or the mall or the train station or the subway or a bridge over a highway or… well you get the idea. There would be no end to it quite frankly. But in America the gun is so revered and even worshiped by some. I rather like Britain where even the cops generally don’t carry a gun. But we’re fine in Canada. The police have guns and its somewhat tough for nuts to get them so outside of the few gangs and petty criminals and mafia killing off mainly each other we don’t have much of a problem. We certainly don’t have folks picking up an Afghanistan style weapon at a gun show with no background check needed and all the amo they want and heading off to a school to blow away a classroom full of little children. That’s YOUR culture and, frankly, you can keep it.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Robbie says — “My view is that one way of cutting down on the number of mass killings is to insist on total nation wide background checks to weed out mentally ill persons and those with violent criminal records”.

            Sig Heil, Robbie!
            And who weeds them out of the Leadership?
            http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

          • Robbie

            This was the best comment you could come up with/ Pathetic.

          • Katrael

            Again Robbie, take care of the crap in your own country before you try to fix things here. You have a much larger country with a much smaller population. And like here, your poorer class of people are the ones who end up in prison the most. The overall crime rate has been dropping in this country while it has been rising in yours. The murder rates by comparison are not all that far apart and your country experiences a much higher non violent crime rate. Auto theft in your country is many times higher than hear.
            Also, I believe your concern for Martin is just a smoke screen to cover up your fear. We’re fixing things here and you need to fix things there so you won’t have to live in fear.

          • Robbie

            Now it’s auto theft! Would that be more or less of a worry than the sick salmon?

          • Katrael

            Aw gee Robbie, you don’t like me pointing out that your country has many problems of it’s own to deal with. Oh, I would say that crime of all sorts is a sign of sickness including your government’s criminal attempt to cover up this sick salmon problem. You also don’t want to acknowledge you countries explosion in violent crimes including rape and murder and instead of doing something there you come here(figuratively speaking) to do something about it here. Kinda like treating diarrhea by working on the plumbing to your toilet. Not very smart.

            The United States isn’t responsible for your nations problems contrary to your apparent belief that it is. Grow up boy.

          • Robbie

            There is no explosion of violent crime here and death by gunfire is still far higher in the states than here. The sick salmon problem is over so that’s a relief and I’m sure there is auto theft – as there is everywhere – but I don’t know anyone who has ever had their car stolen. Don’t hear much about that issue. I had a car stolen about 35 years ago – my only experience with car theft. And as for Canada violently attacking other nations if your example is fighting Hitler back some 70 years ago, well, that’s not much of a violent national track record of foreign invasions and besides you were in on that one as well. Mind you you did come in late.

          • Katrael

            I would consider a seven percent increase in violent crime to be and explosion. Here’s a short answer about Canada’s involvement in armed conflicts:

            The U.S. assembled a coalition of forces to join it in opposing Iraq’s
            aggression, consisting of forces from 34 countries: Argentina,
            Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Egypt, France,
            Greece, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Niger,
            Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Portugal, Qatar, South Korea, Saudi Arabia,
            Senegal, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Spain, Syria, the United Arab
            Emirates, the United Kingdom and the U.S. itself.[74] U.S. Army General Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. was designated to be the commander of the Coalition forces in the Persian Gulf area. Wikipedia

            It didn’t take me long to find this and I’m sure I can find others. How about Korea? I believe that Canada had 30,000 troops who fought there.

          • Katrael

            I can see you revel in the murder of innocent children. You’re sick. You love it so you have a reason to speak out so that more can be slaughtered.

          • Robbie

            I do? And hear I thought I was speaking about preventing such crimes. I think you have misread what I wrote. Or it may be a comprehension problem.

          • Katrael

            No, there must be a reason for your fixation on our problem with crime here and your desire to meddle in other peoples business when you have a skyrocketing crime wave going on in your country. You must get off on hearing about the murder of our children. Why else would you spend so much time on our problems when you have so many at home to worry about?

          • Robbie

            As noted earlier we have very little violent crime up here and a lack of freakin’ guns helps keep the kill rate low. Most murders are domestic and gang related. We simply do not have all the mass shootings you must endure. But then you don’t actually mind them it seems so knock yourself out.

          • Katrael

            Oh, so the violent crime, including the murders from firearms in your country, can just be ignored? You’re sick. I’m for taking those found guilty in a court of law of these mass murders, as you put it, and executing them. This way they will never have an opportunity to do so again. Freakin’ guns? Also, those cowards that attack soft unprotected targets wouldn’t do so if the people who are charged with protecting our children were trained in the use of firearms. The sickness of murder has nothing to do with firearms but everything to do with a sick mind. People will murder with all sorts of devices….like bombs. Yes, we have lots of sick people here but we also have more than ten times the population of your country in a much smaller area. More possibilities for sickness.

          • Robbie

            Again you’re missing the point. I suppose it is willful blindness. Heavy weaponry such as used at Sandy Hook and in the theater in Colorado can blow away dozens of people in just seconds. If you have been prevented from buying a gun and turn instead to a baseball bat or knife or your bare hands it simply takes a lot longer and much more effort for the same result. That’s the problem with guns. No need to discuss the sickos who need to kill others. We agree on that. It’s the fire power so to say that is the issue. Please try to understand that. Guns simply can kill a lot more people a lot faster that a stick or sling shot or bow and arrow or whatever.

          • Katrael

            How about a bomb or even an airplane? Look you still haven’t explained how your precious laws will prevent someone from buying a weapon on the “black market” then using that weapon to commit mass murder. Another point, why should governments and law enforcement officers be the only ones to own or use weapons of mass destruction? Another thing, you still haven’t addressed the issue of governments killing multiple millions of it’s citizens…some estimates put the death toll in Russia at twenty six million, China seventy five million, Germany eleven million, Cambodia two million need I go on? How about the fire bombings of thousands of civilians in Germany? I guess you condone that?

          • Katrael

            One other thing, I very much do want those murders to end but we will always have them because there will always be sick people. You apparently wouldn’t read my post where I stated that I have loved ones that I feel aren’t being protected. No, you misrepresent what I say.

          • Robbie

            I hear you. But if you want to protect people why not support efforts to prevent nut cases or people with a violent criminal record from buying guns i.e.) background checks? You are not being logical. And please don’t give me that “guns don’t kill people” line yet again.

          • Katrael

            Guns don’t kill people

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Speaking of which, here is an article about what unplanned parenthood is trying to hide from the public.
            http://www.fpiw.org/about/family-policy-blog/what-is-planned-parenthood-hiding.html#comments
            Here is a video about how Obama bin Laden supporters say that race relations are worse under his administration.
            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/07/obama-supporters-admit-that-race-relations-are-worse-under-his-presidency/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “They who are decrying the Christian religion are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
            Charles Carroll

          • Katrael

            Planned parenthood sounds like a good idea; like maybe they would tell children to abstain from sex? Planned parenthood’s agenda is just what your article says it’s for, the elimination of the undesirable segments of our (global) populations. It’s the same song sung by Hitler and his type but with a new spin. Also, PP and our government have fed the people the lie that PP’s agenda is really about peoples rights to engage in any type of deviant behavior and that there aren’t any consequences for it. It seems to me that the people who have become mesmerized by this song will never snap out of it until it’s too late.
            I agree that Obama’s election has done nothing for race relations and that it has only made things worse. The thing that bothers me the most about this administration isn’t the racial problems, its the slow but sure enslavement of the vast lower class of people in this country which is being accomplished by the lavish spending spree our government has engaged in. Be well and prosper…

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I see you have watched Star Trek. Be well and prosper sounds like something Spock would say. Anyway, thanks for agreeing with me on these items. Its hard at times with all the 5th columners on this site these days. Here are some more articles dealing with abortion.
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/07/25/pro-life-advocates-hijack-askwendy-hashtag-expose-wendy-davis-on-abortion/
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/07/25/poll-americans-support-late-term-abortion-ban-2-1-just-27-opposed/
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/07/25/journal-behind-after-birth-abortions-pushing-doctors-to-kill-patients/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Grateful to Almighty God for the blessings which, through Jesus Christ our Lord, He had conferred on my beloved country in her emancipation and myself in permitting me, under circumstances of mercy, to live to the age of 89 years, and to survive the fiftieth year of independence, adopted by Congress on the 4th of July 1776, which I originally subscribed on the 2nd day of August of the same year and of which I am now the last surviving signer.”
            Charles Carroll
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Katrael

            I used to like Star Trek before it had people like Patric (whatever his name was) as captain of the Enterprise. However, my admonition for someone to live well and prosper has a somewhat different meaning. For me it means that a person should do the correct thing then prosper from it. Kind of like being well balanced. I suppose I could say: do well and prosper or do the correct things and prosper.

            Thank you for the links to articles about abortion. Abortion is a great evil. Anybody doing so will be held accountable for murder. Not only that, but they will have to suffer the consequences for doing that now in this life so there are consequences for doing it now as well as later. It’s time for those who practice or support this practice to repent(turn) before it’s too late.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            If anyone remains silent to the Dems/Progs/Leftists diatribe, they assume that the silence is approval of what they preach,

          • Katrael

            I hear their message and know that if they get what they desire for this country that it will mean the end of liberty here. It’s already bad now. Why are the people accepting this nonsense from our government? They’ve been so dumbed down and deceived that they think that being able to watch reality shows on TV is what freedom is about. They sit in front of the TV and the flickering blue light has them mesmerized. I can’t be silent. Thank you for adding your voice in opposition to this madness.

        • Vigilant

          “I will continue to contribute to the debate here.”

          “Continue?” You have never started.

          • KG

            Vigilant, are you naturally a jerk or do you have to work at it?

          • Vigilant

            Oooooh! We’ve finally penetrated the aplomb of the resident communist. S’matter, KG, your progressive talking points haven’t arrived from your handlers yet?

        • rocketride

          Why, Robbie? Because we poor, benighted slobs just need a master debater like yourself to improve the quality of discourse in this forum?

          • Robbie

            That seems to be it. You’re on to something by golly. Gosh dern’it.

          • rocketride

            Went right over your head, didn’t it?

          • Robbie

            No. But I wanted to agree with the self characterization. That’s why I ended off with “Golly gosh dern’it.” You betcha’ just to show that I was having some fun with it. Seems that “went right over YOUR head”. Hee, hee.

          • rocketride

            It’s mainly the characterization of you that apparently went over your head. (Hint: Say the phrase “master debater” really fast.)

            Your missing the fact that the other wasn’t directly a self-characterization, but a surmise about what you think of us, is just gravy.

            Sorry, but you “opened your mouth” and removed all doubt.

          • Robbie

            I don’t have the time to comment on every clever comment made on this forum.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I can’t say that your comments “contribute” to anything, Robbie, except maybe more ignorance.

          • Robbie

            Thanks ever so much for the vote of confidence.

    • Steve E

      Just remember, there are two types of people in this world. There are the ones that watched the Zimmerman trial and learned all the facts in this case, and there are those that did not watch and think they know the facts.

      • Robbie

        Tell me about it!

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          The verdict “NOT GILTY” in the George Zimmerman’s trial is the great civil rights JUSTICES of our time.
          http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=8689&mpid=56

          • Robbie

            And it sets a great precedent too. Now anyone who finds some else ‘suspicious’ can get a fight going, feel threatened, and blow them away! Justice indeed.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            A Typical Libtardic rant.
            Robbie says: “Now anyone who finds some else ‘suspicious’ can get a fight going”

            You did not watch the Video because you are NOT interested in the TRUTH (as any Libtard!!!)

            Watch the Video and pay attention @6:00. The ‘suspicious’ attacked the “stalker” when the “stalker” STOPPED to follow the “innocent boy”.

            Robbie, you tried your best and you FAILED miserably. The lesson is, never lie again.

            LYING “is the first step towards failure.” – Homer Simpson

          • Robbie

            Maybe you should go in to the law. Either that or nit pickin’.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Robert, It’s not surprise that you, Libtards, dismiss ALL FACTS, EVIDENCES and eyewitness’s TESTIMONY as “Nit-Picking”.

            PLEASE identify the “NIT-PICKINGS” in this case, but without repeating your Bull Poop.

            BTW, I used to work in the “law” profiling IDIOTS like you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here are some articles dealing with Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11852/further-evidence-obama-orchestrated-irs-targeting-of-tea-party-groups/
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11854/obamas-military-policies-results-in-shortage-of-fighter-pilots/
            Here is an article showing how big business is making lots of money from food stamps.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11849/rich-corporations-big-companies-profiting-from-food-stamp-and-welfare-programs/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The approaching festival of Easter, and the merits and mercies of our Redeemer have inspired me with the hope of finding mercy before my Judge.”
            Charles Carroll
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

    • Vigilant

      “The problem with Root’s story is that in his case the fellow with the knife should not have been doing what he was doing.” And Martin was?

      Awful strange how you miss the part AFTER what you call “provocation.” What part of “Zimmerman was retreating when waylaid by Martin” do you have trouble understanding?

      Unless, of course, you have a psychopathic mind that denies reality. Tell us, oh ignorant one, what happened to the time line AFTER they initially parted company?

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    For the young people who might succumb to the siren song of Socialists like KGB:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/health-care-laws-success-rests-040100677.html
    That’s right, youngsters, as usual in Socialism, one class of people is necessary to pay for the other class of people — A Ponzi Scheme, only worse because you have no choice.

    • KG

      Who do you expect to pay for your Social Security? Oh, that’s right – you are “special”. You will magically be perfectly healthy and wealthy when you are ready to retire, right?

      BTW, it NOT a ‘ponzi’ scheme. Social Security is INSURANCE. We pay premiums just like any insurance policy. And like any good insurance company, the government’s main concern is in collecting premiums.

      You do have a choice – why not move to Somalia? I hear they pay little taxes and have complete freedom to bear arms as well.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        No, KGB, it is worse than a Ponzi Scheme. The so-called Social Security fund relies on current workers to pay for the retired workers. And, unlike a typical Ponzi Scheme, you are forced to participate.
        Those people who would like to be smarter than KGB wants you to be can read this:
        http://mises.org/daily/5658/Is-Social-Security-a-Ponzi-Scheme

        • KG

          Duh, that’s what i said! I know the right wing sycophants like yourself love to say “…but the poor pay no INCOME TAXES.” Well, duh again! They don’t pay income taxes because they DO NOT MAKE ENOUGH to pay ‘income’ taxes. But, and this is a big but, everyone who works for a living pays PAYROLL taxes – the ones that pay for Social Security and Medicare. And that’s why our country invested in infrastructure and Universities to make sure our children could get good paying jobs to pay lots of taxes to fund OUR retirement. So, indeed, I am my brothers keeper.

          I keep forgetting your “special’.

          P.S. Von Misies is still a fascist.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            And you’re still a lying slandering Socialist Progressive, KGB. But then, I should be more understanding since that’s all you’ve got.
            If the Poor don’t have enough to pay taxes, KGB, then why should they get to vote how to spend other peoples’ money?

          • KG

            Ummm…remember the French Revolution? Where the rich and the Royals were slaughtered by an army of poor, oppressed commoners? Who demanded Dignity and fraternity instead of oppression and servitude? Maybe if someone put Donald Trump’s head on a pike maybe the wealthy will get the Idea. But, as Voltaire said, “Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it.”

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Though being forced to pay into any government program is a violation of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. I assume you know that? Here is an article showing how the current administration has another problem on their hands.
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/24/investigation-into-dhs-official-using-his-power-to-help-hillary-clinton-brother/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “God commands all men evrywhere to repent. He also commands them to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and has assured us that all who do repent and believe shall be saved.”
        Roger Sherman
        Signer of all 4 founding documents
        Devout Christian

        • KG

          Samurai, no body is forcing you to do anything. You can go back to Japan and ‘hang’ with your ‘Yakuza’ buddies and eat blowfish all day if you want to. Of course, if you enjoy the freedoms and privileges of being an American, you could stop being selfish and think about your fellow man for once.

          Matthew 13
          King James Version (KJV)
          14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
          15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Lies! Lies! Lies! You tell me any working American that does not have social security taken from their paychecks. Remember, they made it mandatory. This means you have no choice. You have to pay a certain amount every paycheck, depending on how much you make. Yakuza? I think you are a little drunk on the libturd sake. Since you posted 2 Bible verses, I have to say that you are part right and part wrong. The part you got right was posting them word for word, but you messed up on the interpretation.
            10. And the disciples came, and said unto him. Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
            11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but to them it is not given.
            12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
            13. Therefore I speak to them in parables: because they seeing, see not; and hearing, they hear not; neither do they understand.
            14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive.
            15. For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I shall heal them.
            Matthew 13
            Verses 10-15
            Verses 11 and 12 talk about how the disciples have been given the ability to understand things about heaven, but the other people lack that ability. Verse 13 tells the reason Jesus talks to them in parables is because they cannot perceive what Jesus is saying, they cannot understand what he is saying, and they cannot listen either. Verses 14 – 15 tells about people who cannot understand anything about the Kingdom of Heaven and it has been taken from them. But, if they did begin to see, hear, and understand what Jesus was saying, he would heal them and their souls.
            Need to interpret the Bible better than that KG. The Samurai is also a senior deacon (안수집사) of his church. Here is an example of what you, along with your ilk, think about Trayvon Martin.
            http://www.americanvision.org/8882/evolutionists-trayvon-martin/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you communist backside out.
            “Do not let anyone claim to be a true American if they attempt to remove religion from American politics. If they do, they are not true Americans.”
            George Washington
            Founding father
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            “Father of our country”
            1st President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian
            *Remember this quote KG. For even Washington says you are not a true American. Ha, ha, ha, ha!

          • KG

            Samurai, you are correct in you exegesis of what I showed you. However, you mis-understood the Audience.

            quote:

            Verses 11 and 12 talk about how the disciples have been given the ability to understand things about heaven, but the other people lack that ability.

            I’m sorry to say it’s YOU that lacks that ability.

            quote:

            …the reason Jesus talks to them in parables is because they cannot perceive what Jesus is saying…

            And neither can you.

            Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

            You, sir, have bad fruits!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is what I said. Here is an article about a congressman went after an Obama bin Laden adviser.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/congressman-goes-off-on-an-obama-adviser/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GO)D to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Better to fight for something than to die for nothing.”
            General George Scott Patton, Jr.

          • KG

            The web site you cite is owned by the same people who own Worldnetdaily. The Center helped fund Christopher W. Ruddy (who later founded NewsMax) to investigate conspiracies surrounding the death of Vincent Foster, which was part of the Arkansas Project. WJC circulated a video featuring Ruddy’s claims, Unanswered-The Death of Vincent Foster, that was produced by author James Davidson, chairman of the National Taxpayers Union (NTU) and co-editor of the Strategic Investment newsletter.

            And since all of the people are Republican and Conservative, they get their news from FOX.

            You are getting your ‘facts’ from a right-wing Republican/libertarian/Nazi propaganda ‘echo’ chamber. Get your head out of the ‘cone of silence’. hang up your shoe phone, and stop looking at agent 69.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry dude, but you are gravely mistaken. Sook Young and I get our news from Fox, but also from the Elkhart Truth (Daily newspaper), NBC (WNDU-TV, NDU is Notre Dame University), and CNN (Communist News Network), so what is your point? Do you have a point? Remember to study your history a lot more to understand that the NAZIs wer socialists, ergo, to the left of center. Sheesh! Here is an article about a 5th columner that could be removed from office.
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2835/john-mccain-needs-to-go/
            21. Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, of Ahab the son of Kolaiah, and of Zedekiah the son of Maaseiah, which prophesy a lie unto you in my name; Behold, I will deliver them into the hand Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon; and he shall slay them before your eyes.
            22. And of them shall be taken up a curse by all the captivity of Judah which are in Babylon, saying, The Lord make thee like Zedekiah and like Ahab, whom the king of Babylon roasted in the fire;
            23. Because they have committed villany in Israel, and have committed adultery with their neighbors’ wives, and have spoken lying words in my name, which I have not commanded them; even I know, and am a witness, saith the Lord.
            Jeremiah 29:21 – 23
            This sounds like a warning to you and your ilk KG. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
            Samurai

          • KG

            Tell me one good thing Jesus said about religious people? Or people who didn’t want to pay taxes? Or people who claim to be believers but are actually ‘wolves in sheep’s clothing’? You are a Deacon or Holy man – you should be able to spout out a whole bunch of verses that prove Jesus was here for the religious people like yourself.

            Matthew 24:24
            For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

            I am not fooled by the trickery of the Republican/libertarian/Nazi/teabaggers who want to destroy my country in the name of dollars.

          • Katrael

            Just out of curiosity: do you believe in a creator?

          • KG

            I still struggle with saying the word ‘believe’. If you ever study Philosophy, you will run into Kant. And with the Kantian notion of the impossibility of knowing things ‘in and of themselves’, but, rather, how they appear to our senses, to say ‘I believe” is to acknowledge that your belief is strictly based on your own cognition rather than on any empirical evidence. But, and this is a big but, every human being has freedom to choose what cognitions they wish to acknowledge. I believe that there is some “force” or “spirit of creativity” simply because denying that seems to leave me isolated from the rest of humanity. And it’s our humanity which makes us as real as concrete seems to be.

          • Katrael

            Thank you. That seems to explain to me where your thought processes come from. I’m not a believer in most of the traditions that our society believes in. Having said that, there are plenty of things that I do believe in that I hold in common with our society. Traditional moral values being an example. I was taught to seek the truth and in doing so have uncovered that a lot of what I was taught and raised to believe in were nothing more than made up stories whose origins don’t exist in the book that many believe they come from…the Bible, meaning the English translations of the original writings. Things like Christmas, Easter, good Friday, a Sunday resurrection, the name of the Creator and his son, the age of the Earth, and a whole host of other bad translations to numerous to expound on here. The problem for most people is that they can’t divorce themselves from the lies that they have inherited.

            I tend to support people who speak out against the eroding of our traditional moral values as I see those values as being absolutely necessary for a stable society. It appears that when you start to change the mores .of a nation that instabilities are introduced that a nation may never recover from. In other words: once change begins the process may progress beyond the ability of people to control it which will eventually lead to a nation’s demise. I know that our nation is going there.

            I feel that many who have lost the faith in traditional values have done so because of the hypocrisy and lies they discovered. in what they were taught and if what they found is a lie then possibly all of it is a lie. The other thing is that most people don’t want to be told how to behave: they want to do what feels good to them.

          • KG

            From you response I can tell you are a beautiful human being. It’s people like you that keep me struggling in this shared hallucination we call life.

          • Katrael

            Why thank you for your compliment. I don’t share your hallucinations. Maybe if you stop using certain drugs your hallucinations will go away?

      • Katrael

        I tried to respond to your reply however, clicking on the reply icon wouldn’t take me to your post so I’m responding here. I had it wrong, those 46 calls occurred from 2004 up until the shooting and not the 14 months that I originally stated. I apologize for that error. My point is simple: that Zimmerman had every right to be suspicious. Apparently there were 8 burglaries in the previous 14 or 15 months with one of them occurring at a neighbor’s house that Zimmerman had witnessed and reported.. However, I’m having a difficult time finding what I think should be reliable information. I don’t have all the time to research this. If this information is true then I feel that Zimmerman had more than enough reason to be suspicious of Martin who was unknown to Zimmerman.
        What I object to is what seems to be your attitude that Martin was somehow this poor victim of a hate crime based solely on race when I don’t believe that this is true. As Roobie so aptly pointed out: that it’s not safe to stroll around in strange neiborhoods at night. I believe that anybody doing so will find themselves getting into trouble. I’d be willing to bet that Martin knew this also. I can’t prove it.

        • KG

          quote: …that it’s not safe to stroll around in strange neiborhoods at night. I believe that anybody doing so will find themselves getting into trouble.

          That’s true. But most people will tell you to leave or call the police, not shoot and kill you for that. Why give a death sentence for a misdemeanor?

          • Katrael

            Zimmerman may have been guilty of murder but the courts were unable to prove it and it seems that some kind of confrontation occurred. I don’t agree with shoot first ask questions later unless someone’s breaking in my door. Martin was on the street. Zimmerman will ultimately pay for what he did even though the courts were unable to find him guilty. The prosecution did a bad job by asking for 2nd degree murder.. As I pointed out: it’s nearly impossible to know what’s true or not? Of this I’m sure: two people made serious mistakes and one ended up dead. Would Zimmerman have ended up dead if he hadn’t shot Martin? We’ll never know.

  • billybob

    Growing up in the fifties in North Minneapolis, I encountered many dangerous days on my way to and from school. I was the poor white boy walking through all black neighborhoods. Yes I was young, but I remember going 4 or 5 blocks out of my way so I didn’t run into the black gangs. I lived on Olsen Highway. Across the street where it was all black was where all of the shooting and stabbings took place. I remember sitting on the steps of our little quanset hut watching the police then the ambalance come to pick up the wounded or dead. It was a nightly thing. Yes there were days when the black teens would roam around the streets and beat up anyone who happened to be in their way. Old women and men, other teens and even drunken Native Americans who happened to be in the hood. This thing has been around for as long as I have been alive.
    In school during lunch you had to spit on your food or the black kids would just come up and take it from you. It wasn’t that they were hungry. It was a power thing with them. I’m sure there will be a bunch of white liberals telling me that they deserved my lunch or that it was justified that they could roam the streets and beat up people. They can say that because most, if not all, live in the lily white neighborhoods. My wife had never seen a black person until she was in her teens. I can only tell you my expirences.

  • jim B

    BHO and Holder will always have an audience in this world as long as the weak minded, uninformed, and ignorant amongst us exist! The answer to the one question I have always had is… What Do You Want? What do you want that has not already been given to you… free food, housing, clothing, educational opportunities, medication… what! I can no more give you what I have earned myself, I have no more to give and therefor there is no more to take.

    • Vis Fac

      The reason we have the apathetic and indolent is because we have a public education system operated by liberal one dimensional idiot-ology who disregards God and OUR Constitution in favor of producing the functionally illiterate that have been thrust upon society. As per liberal agenda these poor people do not have the skills necessary to fend for themselves and must rely on others to exist. So the answers to your questions are simple “I don’t want to work or be responsible I just want whatever I can get for free, and I don’t care where it comes from”

  • PatCindyCunningham

    The Race Card is being used by Barack Obama and his Liberal Buddies to stop the conversation from the Obama Scandals. It makes it easy to talk about race rather than the criminal Activities this Administration has perpetrated. The big Offensive now, is calling the scandals “Made Up.” Now Obama says the Republicans are using the so called scandals to change the subject from the Economy. We can’t let Obama treat his Presidency like a Chess Match. He will do anything to get his agenda through. We must stick to the truth. That truth is that Barack Obama has no business as president.

    • Nanette

      Why, because the black race has become their “slaves” they keep them on “government plantations” with no hope, no God, no education and no self respect! They are their “mobs” to control for political agendas because they buy them as the slaves of old. They are brainwashed to accept that the black communities problems are because of “racism”, when infact it is because they are “drugged” into never taking responsibility for their, actions, education, morality and work!

      • PatCindyCunningham

        Very true, I am glad others realise this. If this message is not only said out loud but with heart and conviction it will not get through. Whites have been afraid to engage with blacks fearing physical retaliation. That is an old wives tale. Blacks, at least most are ready to engage if only someone like Bill O’Reilly engages. Of course the race hustlers like Obama, Sharpton, Holder, and Jackson won’t discuss these issues. It digs to deep into there false moral imperative.

        • Jeff

          When Bill comes into your restaurant, just give him some MFing Ice Tea so he can get the authentic ethnic experience. I don’t know that it’s possible to be any more fundamentally racist, while denying any racist intent, than he is.

      • Jeff

        The issue is not racism per se. The Black community with all its problems is the result of literally centuries of maltreatment. Slavery may have ended in 1865, but Black people were hardly part of the greater society for at least 100 years thereafter. In reality, it took longer than that. How long has it been that a Black man could aspire to a normal middle class existence without being an entertainer or athlete? 30 years? In some cases 40? It is a very complex issue and the problem did not occur because of some special property of Black people. It was societally created and can only be solved societally.
        But pretending that the end of official segregation in the 60s meant the end of inequality of opportunity is to fail to see reality. The Republicans who choose to ignore the plight of the Black underclass don’t need to wear sheets and hoods or even be overt racists like their fathers may have been. All they have to do is nothing and nothing will get better.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The Blacks are still not assimilated because they have let themselves become pawns of the Politicians. Other nationalities were discriminated against also, but they hunkered down and lifted themselves up instead of looking to the Government trough for their salvation.

          • KG

            The difference is that these “Other nationalities” were not captured, chained to a ship, endure weeks of unimaginable agony, bought and sold from a stage in New Orleans to live a life of servitude without any hope of living free. I would give a pass to the Irish. After all, whats worse than a Black Slave? Slaves are expensive, but the Irish are a dime a dozen.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            “captured” by people of their own race, KGB. And those were the ancestors of today’s Blacks. When do the Blacks assume responsibility for their own actions instead of using their ancestors sufferings as their excuse?
            Nobody in my family has ever held slaves, so why would that in any remote way be my fault?
            And why do you Progressives keep bringing up slavery when in fact it is you who are working to enslave current populations of people? Your hypocrisy makes no sense.

  • Vigilant

    “You know what the definition of “racism” is nowadays? Anyone winning an argument with a liberal.”

    We must all be racists then. The progressives have never had a factual, logical argument against truth.

    • Elton Robb

      The “liberals” want an utopian society. A perfect society that has no crime, no disease, and no inequality. The truth is, Man is mortal and therefore natural and cannot overcome these problems by himself. The Liberals believe we can do it by ourselves, and we can achieve it. And they are fanatic about it — they are so fanatic that they have a Machievellian mentality: “the ends” the utopia — “justifies the means” — world-wide Communism.

      • Karolyn

        But it can be done if people would just wake up! Of course, it is too tall an order; but one can dream. And I’m not talking about communism. I’m talking about brotherly love.

      • Jeff

        So, why bother to do anything to make life better for yourself, your kids, or anybody else? Why have doctors? If this disease doesn’t kill you, another one will eventually. I find your reasoning idiotic. Paraphrasing JFK: The things we want to accomplish will not be finished during my Administration and perhaps not during our time on this planet. But let us begin.
        We seek to create a “more perfect union” even knowing perfection itself is unattainable.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The Union you seek, Jeff, is the Union created when you are attached by your hand to our wallets.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          You mean like a Union that seeks to control how the individual states vote?
          http://www.westernjournalism.com/eric-holder-begins-assult-on-texas/
          http://www.westernjournalism.com/holder-seeks-to-reassert-federal-power-over-state-voting/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “Respect your country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”
          Samuel Clemons

          • Jeff

            Yes, exactly. I guess you thought the Voting Rights Act was unnecessary. Not only do many of the Southern states have a history of disenfranchising minority voters, they’re still doing it. Do you think the Senate voted to reauthorize 98-0 as recently as 2006 based on violations from the 1950s and 60s? It’s still going on. Look at the Texas bill. There are emails where state legislators establish the reasons for the changes and they have nothing to do with preventing “voter fraud.” All Holder is doing is taking the case to a federal court. If Texas is so innocent, it has nothing to fear.

      • macgyver1948

        Elton Robb… So you say “The “liberals” want an utopian society. A perfect society that has no crime, no disease, and no inequality”. Yep “ The truth is, Man is mortal and therefore natural and cannot overcome these problems by himself”, you are pretty much right about that. BUT, what normal decent human wouldn’t want “no crime, no disease, and no inequality”? For you to claim the liberals want this only shows
        those liberals who do, and there are so many who do, are normal decent human beings. We know it is not going to be so easy but we continue to work toward those goals. For to not to work toward those goals seems to mean we give up and in that case we should just dig our graves early on and bury ourselves. Where do you stand, hopeful or not?

        One more thing Elton Robb. It is so nice of you to speak for others, as you do here for Liberals, when you haven’t the ability to do so. Or is it just that you are told to generalize with people who do not agree with you? I just love it when the mind readers come out of the wood work, just like Wayne Allen Root does for Liberals and of course Obama. You guys really know our intentions and beliefs, so you are told.

        • Vigilant

          “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of “liberalism” they will adopt EVERY fragment of the Socialist program, until
          one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” –

          Norman Thomas (Former Socialist Presidential Candidate)

          So much for the good intentions of liberals.

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant…
            So, um, are you now taking cues from known Socialists as well as your
            Right leaders? Some Soviet leaders in Russia said that the US will be
            taking from within. Where are they now? Continue to be taken in by
            your side and you will believe it throughly about Liberals some day
            but even then you will be wrong about us. We are for equality equally
            for all and I am so much ion favor of the Constitution as the
            Founders intended and not how it has been weakened lately. How
            is that of a Liberal?

          • Vigilant

            Liberalism and socialism have been partners in crime for most of the last 100 years.

            “Some Soviet leaders in Russia said that the US will be
            taking [sic] from within. Where are they now?”

            They are sitting as activist judges at every level and as Supreme Court justices as we speak. They populate state legislatures, the Senate and House of Representatives. They function as czars and regulatory agency bureaucrats. One sits in the White House.

            If you have been blind to the gradualism of the leftist traitors just in the last 50 years, then you have learned nothing about history.

            Today’s liberals are not, nor have they ever been, for equality of opportunity, the true meaning of the Constitution. They prefer, by force of law, to impose equality of outcomes, a concept repugnant to the Founders.

            You are in no way in favor of the Constitution, if you believe that it’s a “living document” in the sense that the executive branch of government can subvert its provisions through executive order, activist judges can write new law and Congress is free to violate it with impunity.

            In short, you have NO IDEA what the Founders intended if you support progressive measures to turn us into a welfare state and negate the primary mission of government, i.e., to protect private property.

            You want to know what true, classical liberalism is, read the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist papers and the writings of Jefferson, Madison and Adams. Today’s liberals are a different animal, have turned classical liberalism on its head and now wear the skins of skunks and weasels as they fascistically engage in the duplication of the laundry list presented against King George in the Declaration.

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant… I do not totally agree with “Liberalism
            and socialism have been partners in crime for most of the last 100 years” I suppose to some extent there is some but not nearly to the extent the Right would have us believe. Historically Nazism/Fascism was far Right and Commies were far Left.

            I have seen betrayals of Constitution Law often in the past and it is still going on. Little bush with his HLS and tapping into our phones, all kinds, and now on the Internet is a big example of those betrayals. I see over 270 GOP members in Congress signing conflict of
            interest pledges, almost MAFIA no way out pledges for them, and I know the Dems have not been perfect as well. We have problems with both sides of the aisle. We have so many elected officials who will do what is best for the big corporations at our expense in spite of
            the fact the the US Founding Fathers warned us against Corporate money and influence in government.

            I also do not agree with you that liberals, in general,
            are not for “equality of opportunity, the true meaning of the Constitution”. Almost all Liberals I know are for those things. I think you have been led to believe that by those who do not like the competition or just plane not like being disagreed with. I see so many in Tea, those at the top that is and not the average grass roots person, and now the many Tea owned GOP who will side with their agendas which, for the most part, are for the benefit and protection of the huge corporations.

            The Founders were for equal Liberty for all citizens and not jut the kind the Corporations want for themselves. You say to me “You are in no way in favor of the Constitution, if you believe that it’s a “living
            document” in the sense that the branches of government can subvert its provisions through executive order, activist judges can write new law and Congress is free to violate it with impunity”. Thanks for assuming what I believe.

            Actually, I know the US Constitution was put into place to protect “We The People” from Government and not the other ways around. I also believe it borders on treason, or it should, for any government official(s) to
            weaken it without our permission. I think your programming takes you over and you assume what those who will not agree with you are believing. If you really want to know what I believe ask me and DO
            NOT TELL ME. There seems to be so many on the Right in here who believe God gave them special mind reading skills. Why else would so many of you be so wrong about so many Liberals in our beliefs? Or is
            it your programming that does that?

            I have several copies of the Constitution and I have read it several times and that includes the Declination of Independence. I think it is the greatest human document written for humans (NOT GOVERNMENTS)
            next to my Bible. Thank you for suggestion I read it. I am even a fan of the 2nd Amendment but I also want the laws we already have to be heavily enforced. If the crazies or criminals or terrorists want to do their
            thing here I want them to forever regret it. But never will I believe, as the Gun lobbies (NRA specifically) have stated, we will be safer if more guns are on the street. I just want WE The People to all have equality and a fair shot at the American Dream but we will
            not if we have more “Plutocracy”, the Tea and Tea-owned GOP Dream.

            In short we citizens, which ever side of the aisle we support, need to fire the politicians at the polls if they do not do our bidding. We, people like you and me, need to put our differences aside until we can get the government back on track and then shout at each other again after it is working correctly. The politicians need to be more fearful of us, for their political careers, than they are of the damning pledges they might sign against us. I blame us for allowing
            to get this bad but we still have a chance to fix it. One way is for those of us who still care about Liberty and Freedom as The Founders meant it to be, like I think you and I know me, to stand together and get the government back to how it was meant to be but with today’s budgetary needs in place, not shrink it to a size that would fit in a “bath Tub” or down to what it was at the beginning of the 20th Century, as Norquist and his camp (the Koch Brothers and others)
            demands for the big Corporations. How realistic would it be to maintain this country if they get their ways?

            Just some suggestions. I guess I don’t know a thing if I listen to you though.

          • Vigilant

            “Historically Nazism/Fascism was far Right and
            Commies were far Left.”

            This is one of the largest hoaxes ever perpetrated.
            Fascism and communism are more than blood brothers. Both are leftist and statist. Even using the left/right paradigm, the farther left you go on the scale, the more statist becomes the government. The farther right one goes on the scale, the less statist becomes the government, to the point of anarchy. By no sane means can anyone call fascism a little/no government philosophy. Recall that the Nazis were national socialists in name. There’s a reason for that.

            As for betrayals of Constitutional law, both sides
            are indeed guilty. However, it has always been the liberals who have viewed the Constitution as a “guideline” only, a document that can be changed almost at will rather than applying Article V as the Founders intended.

            Who can deny that the activist justices on the
            SCOTUS are biased this way? Ruth Bader
            Ginsburg is the clearest example of leftist disdain for the Constitution as the
            law of the land. Her respect for the
            document is so minimal that she advised the Egyptians not to look to it when
            drafting their own constitution.
            Moreover, she has allowed her decisions to be affected by international
            agreements, etc., which goes traitorously beyond her oath to decide cases
            within constitutional parameters ONLY.

            Several times you referred to corporate cronyism,
            and implied more than once that there is some tidy relationship between
            Conservatives and the corporations. This
            is one of the most nefarious of myths I know of. I often wondered why Geo. Bush was identified
            with Conservatism when he was completely the opposite. Bush’s “neoconservatism” is in no way a
            partner with Conservatism, which disdains corporate cronyism with all its
            heart. The left, however, has seen fit
            to identify the two opposite philosophies because it make true conservatism
            look bad, and true Conservatism is anathema to the liberals.

            You say, “I also do not agree with you that
            liberals, in general,

            are not for “equality of opportunity, the true meaning of the Constitution.”

            Perhaps liberals have a different moral squint on the
            definition of “equal opportunity.” It
            does not mean attempting to force equal outcomes through affirmative action or
            wealth redistribution, both concepts being clearly repugnant to the Founders.

            “We, people like you and me, need to put our
            differences aside until we can get the government back on track…”

            One puts the government back on track by restoring
            the role of the Constitution as the law of the land. THAT, to be honest, I have never heard from
            the lips or keystrokes of a liberal.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Equality doesn’t involve Force of Government. If Government Force is involved, it becomes special privilege.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article about Pelosi and how she is twisting the meaning of swearing to defend the Constitution.
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pelosi-congress-must-uphold-oath-protect-and-defend-constitution-passing-gun-control
            Actually, I think she knows nothing about the Constitution. Here is an article that shows a racist coward leading from behind.
            http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/patrick-j-buchanan/leading-behind-al-sharpton
            What else is new? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Hold fast to the Bible. To the influence of this Book we are indebted for all the progress made in true civilization and to this we must look as our guide in the future.”
            Ulysses S. Grant
            Civil War General
            18th President of the U.S.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Macgyver says “You guys really know our intentions and beliefs, so you are told”.
          Actions speak louder than words, Macgyver.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is an article showing that Janet Napolitano is telling all the dirty laundry from when she was in office.
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/big-sis-shockingly-dirty-secrets-go-public/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Better to illuminate than to shine, to deliver to others contemplated truths than merely to contemplate.”
      Thomas Aquinas

  • Isabella

    GOD BLESS YOU and GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!People like you give me HOPE, HOPE, that, we can still save our country against those who , for political gain, financial gain, are ready to sold her out. They won’t prevail.

  • Karolyn

    The difference here is that he had a big knife. Martin had no weapon.
    I feel really sorry for George Zimmerman. I think he made a big mistake that he will pay for the rest of his life. I also do not believe he is racist.
    Another story I saw last night that has received no media coverage involves a 72 year old white man who shot and killed his neighbor black kid because he “thought” he had robbed him. It’s all on video. The kid was taking in the garbage can; and he was shot point blank in the chest. The old guy got life and showed no remorse. Now I consider that to be racially motivated, as well as cold and callous..

    • Jeff

      I don’t believe Zimmerman is a racist in the old-fashioned, George Wallace sense. I would not expect him to be burning crosses on lawns or joining the idiotic racist comments one regularly finds on these blogs. But his fear of all Black men walking in “his” neighborhood – even if he’s not a bigot, that, by definition, is a racist act. Had Trayvon been White doing the same thing, Zimmerman would have paid no attention to him. No 911 call, no creepy following, no fight.
      I read about the other case you mentioned with the old man shooting his 13 year old neighbor. Even after he was sentenced, he was still blaming the kid (or his parents) by saying he hadn’t been taught right. This despite the fact the guns the old bigot thought the kid had stolen from him were not in the kid’s house. When you’re raised a bigot, it takes a lot to change.

      • CommonSense4America

        I guess you didn’t follow the Zimmerman case very closly. Being black was not the major factor of his interest. Acting suspious was what caught his attention. Ambling along, walking close to the eves of houses, looking around and just not behaving in the way a normal person would that is out in the rain walking home. He did not volunteer the information that Martin was black until the 911 operator ask.

        • Jeff

          Apparently you believe everything Zimmerman says despite the fact he was caught in several lies. Didn’t all of his previous 911 calls describing “suspicious” behavior all involve Black men as well? If Trayvon had been White, his actions would have been viewed entirely differently by Zimmerman.

          • CommonSense4America

            It is my understanding that not ALL of the 911 transcripts were reported. The reports were filtered to include ONLY those that mentioned blacks. This was to see if Zimmerman expressed any bias towards blacks. According to the media that I heard, there were other 911 calls that were not reported.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Jeff says — “Didn’t all of his previous 911 calls describing “suspicious” behavior all involve Black men as well?”.
            Who knows? But since you make such a conjectural claim, Jeff, do you have any evidence to back it up?

      • MaranathaMark

        Spoken like a true libertard, trying to interject racism, when the only racism evident was on the part of Trayvon, per the testimony of his girlfriend – Jeantel. It was a mixed race community, and George has a long resume about defending and helping blacks, so you can stick the whole racist angle, where the sun don’t shine!
        The old man that murdered the young black teenager, recently has absolutely NO relevance in this conversation and NO remote comparison to the Zimmerman/Trayvon case. Any one trying to make the association is either loopy or purposely trying to promote an racial agenda!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Jeff says — “Had Trayvon been White doing the same thing, Zimmerman would have paid no attention to him”.
        Racist and conjectural.

      • macgyver1948

        Jeff…. There are still some racist, if not Zimmerman to that extent, who hated the idea that a black person could even be running for high office. That has been evident since Obama was challenging Hillary for the nomination and thy are very much still here fighting with their hate. But I agree that Zimmerman may not be of the George Wallace type. Those anti-people bigots are up there making up hate campaigns against Obama to this day (and there are political reasons as well because he wont sigh conflict of interest pledges, for example) and many of their followers are just eating it all up.

        I remember a line from one of the Lincoln movies of the last couple of years that still rings through for many today. In an
        attempt to fight against emancipation the character said,
        my paraphrasing because I can’t remember it exactly, “We cannot give equality to those who God has not”. And then there are those who are just in denial today.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The Emancipation Proclamation was a war measure implemented to keep the English from siding with the Southerners.
          Read it. There were four slave states fighting for the North, and the Proclamation said nothing about freeing their slaves, only those of the enemy Southern states:
          http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/featured_documents/emancipation_proclamation/.

          Lincoln spent most of his life advocating for relocating Blacks to other countries:
          http://recovering-republican.com/was-lincoln-a-racist
          “I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race”.

          Why make a hero of such an obviously flawed man? Simple — He destroyed the concept of “Government by the People” by Forcing Southerners into his Union, whether they liked it or not, at the expense of about 650,000 lives. Leaders want you to worship such dictators, as it helps them keep their Power.

          • macgyver1948

            LOL, I was talking about emancipation in general, not the Proclamation.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Are you and Jeff really that clueless to the manipulations of Leaders, or are you just doing your Progressive zealot thing?

          • macgyver1948

            Well TheOriginalDaveH, since I do not agree with you I must be clueless. Isn’t that Right? LOL

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            LOL. Yes you are, macgyvy (eyes rolling).
            Hey look, I can comment like a Liberal Progressive.

          • Jeff

            It doesn’t matter that for most of his life Lincoln was a racist by modern definitions. By the end of his life, his views had changed. Blacks had fought for the Union and may have been the decisive factor in the victory. Lincoln had the capacity to recognize when he had been wrong and change his views. I’m not talking about the Emancipation as that was largely a tactic used to win the war. But passage of the 13th Amendment was not.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Lincoln had the capacity, like most politicians, to put his finger in the air and see which way the wind was blowing.

          • Jeff

            Whatever, Dave. I’ve read enough history that I don’t need to take what you say too seriously. Believe what you want to believe.

        • skrewdisqus

          there are also racists, like 97% of the black population, and about 35% of the white population (and 100% of the STUPID white population) who voted nothing but skin color in both elections. They certainly didn’t vote for barry soetoro/barry sobarkeh (per his mother’s passport information) based upon his past performance anyplace.

          • macgyver1948

            skrewdisqus… Please speak for your self. Many of us voted for the person we know as Obama and some had to vote against the Right, as we see it, for being owned by conflict of interest pledges and the Plutocracy. Some my have voted for the color but that will be in any election.

            You cannot claim voters are stupid because they do not vote our way. And there are racists in every race, we know that.

      • skrewdisqus

        Jeff, seriously, you’re not very bright, are you? Blacks, and mostly young black males, account for 50% of the crime out there even though only 13% of the population overall, with black males being only 6%. Police profile for a reason.
        http://www.colorofcrime.com

        • Jeff

          They do, but it is improper. You need more than skin color to base a profile. What do you think is meant by the term “testilying”? It’s when cops see a car with Black guys in it and they suspect they may have drugs. They have no probable cause to stop them, so they make up a story that the car swerved. They make the stop and find a joint. The lying is not about the drugs (usually) but about the pretext for the stop. If they could stop the car just due to suspicion because a lot of Black people take drugs, there’d be no need for the pretext.

    • skrewdisqus

      And GZ would have known that exactly HOW when Stymie started assaulting him?
      And you are wrong, BTW. Stymie had several lethal weapons at his disposal, several of which he was using on GZ at the time;
      1.) Hands
      2.) Feet
      3.) Concrete sidewalk
      4.) GZ’s weapon, which he tried to gain possession of after threatening to kill GZ.

      This likely would have been dispatched as a “(fight) in progress, unknown weapons”, prior to the gunshot. And like the person dispatching that, GZ also wouldn’t have known if Stymie was armed. When you’re in his position, you don’t wait until somebody actually pulls their weapon and uses it on you before you resort to lethal force. People who do that are called “dead”.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      GZ made NONE mistake. He did act in the self-defense. When the self-defense became “a big mistake”???
      P.S. If GZ would not act in self-defense he would be dead today.

      Another story I saw last night that has received no media coverage involves a 72 year old white man who shot and killed his neighbor black kid because he “thought” he had robbed him. It’s all on video.

      Another story you did NOT see this spring-summer (march-July) that has received NONE media coverage involves two BLACK THUGS (17 and 14) who MURDERED the WHITE-Hispanic 13 months
      Baby Antonio Santiago in March, 2013 in the front of his mother.

      Sherry West (Baby’s mother) begged them not to kill her baby but they MURDERED her BABY in the front of her http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2297392/Sherry-West-tells-robbers-shot-sleeping-baby-Antonio-dead-Brunswick.html

      Where are scumbags’ (O’homo, holder, sharpton, jackson and other RACISTS) outrage and cry for the JUSTICE?

  • TIME

    My Dear people,

    Look into the “Roderick Scott” case so you can get a clear view of who the real Raciest are,
    Starting the Mass media, and that special Twisted pervert Barack O’Bama and his little head E Holder.
    Along with all the special supporters called “Jock Strapets”, also know as the Progressives wing nuts who post their mindless mass media rhetoric here day after day as if lies are some how truth when spoken by the MSNBC or any of the other bent criminals who pose are mass media stars.

    Peace and Love,

    To you that understand this whole twisted mess: May The Holy Sprit bless you with Grace so that The Christ can bless your soul to enter GOD’S home.

  • MaranathaMark

    In response to Donna Bell above: Actually, Donna B., fist or bare-handed melee account for several times more deaths each year than so-called assault weapons do. Had Mr. Thugvon, gone straight home or even if he had just stopped at assault when he broke Zimmerman’s nose when he threw the first punch, Thugvon Martin would likely be alive today. I say ‘likely’ because his drug use had already damaged his liver, and his love of violence is a combination that very easily could have ended up getting him in another situation, where he was killed or injured for life!

  • http://joey.mimweddings.com/Blog joeydg

    Race is almost never the issue – it’s a catalyst. This is a blatant attempt to polarize them and make them passionate for the same thing – more gun control. The claim will be that people are using their 2nd amendment rights to serve illegal and vigilantly purposes. The solution will be tracking guns and further regulating and restricting gun purchases. In order to keep that harmful agenda off the plate, we need to not promote, encourage or even tolerate race baiting. They need to be revealed for the manipulator a that they are – especially the president.

  • Marshall Watson

    God bless you Wayne Allyn Root and God bless George Zimmerman, in my book you are both heroes.

    • macgyver1948

      Oui gavalt, LOL

  • macgyver1948

    I am remember this case from when it first happened as different from what is being presented . It doesn’t seem similar at all to the story Wayne Allen Root is telling of his knife wielding assailant of so long ago. What I remember of it was the kid with a hoody walking through the neighborhood not bothering anyone and the neighborhood watch guy following him and starting the connection. I remember it was the neighborhood watch guy making initial contact with the kid with the hoody, not the other way around. My how the story changes when you want to make it into a race case for others now.

    Wayne Allen Root. I was almost a product of Dewitt Clinton High School in the Bronx so I know of the atmosphere of which you speak in your school. The jr high I went to was a training ground.

    • vicki

      Interesting. Were you the shadow in the bushes? Why didn’t you bring all this to the attention of the DA?

      And lets play what if. What if your story is actually true. Where is there any moral or legal reason for Martin to attack Zimmerman?

      • macgyver1948

        Vickie… I am only going by what I remember. There was no moral reason for anyone to attack anyone, there never is. I still do not think we know all the facts, who touched who first and the jury went only by what they were given. If Zimmerman touched the boy first then the boy is entitled to defend himself against a stranger’s advances.

        Since we are in a Wayne Allen Root article page I remember an episode I encountered growing up in The Bronx NY. I think I was around 12 and a stranger approached me after dark one night and claimed he was with the police. After he grabbed my arm I shrugged away and ran. When are we supposed to give up and listen, after he rapes or kills us or when he shows his lawful ID? How do we know?

        By the way, a day after my encounter with that “police” stranger, on the news there was a description of a man that fit my friendly stranger who was wanted for molesting young boys. When and how do we really know?

        Only the shadow knows.

        • Charlie

          Mac1948,,, still way off course,,, the term “””boy”” does not describe a young “”Man”” that’s able to take down a 200 lbs Man and beat the Man’s head on the concrete… The “”N”” kid was looking for trouble and found some “Fire Power”” he did not expect…

          • macgyver1948

            WOW, no racist in you… I meant boy only because of his age and had nothing to do with race. Thanks for ASSuming. Was David, before he was king, lighter or heavier that Goliath? With proper leverage, and perhaps the fear the “boy” had for his stalker, he might have been able to take Z down.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article for you Mac. It shows what Americans think of “Stand your Ground” laws.
            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/07/22/majority-support-stand-your-ground-laws-n1646279
            Here are some articles dealing with Trayvon.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/how-obama-truly-was-like-trayvon-martin/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-zimmerman-speech-obama-should-have-given/
            Here is an article from the WSJ about charges against the prosecutors in the Zimmerman trial.
            http://www.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130702-905033.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
            I guess that now they are on the defensive. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It has been my pleasure on each returning Sabbath, to hold up before my enlightened audience the cross of Jesus, all stained with the blood of Him that hung upon it, as the only hope of the perishing.”
            Septimus Tuston
            Chaplain, University of Virginia

          • macgyver1948

            samuari…
            Does this article and you say “”all” Americans feel this
            way” or does it really mean a majority of those asked? We know the
            case turned out to not be a Stand Your Ground issue but I want more
            study of the law so it does not give people who are border line
            murderers a legal stand for murdering when they want. Just more
            study.

            samuari. I hope by now you know I will defend your
            religious beliefs and rights even though I in no way agree with them
            – or you. Its that mortal sin thing for Jews and I for one will not
            commit mortal sin for you or your bible. That is real religious
            liberty, my standing up for your beliefs, and not you with just your
            ways for all but respecting all others. The question is why won’t you
            allow me my beliefs without trying to prove my bible and religion
            wrong just because my bible and yours contradicts each other in so
            many ways? It is the nature and reason for Freedom Of Religion in you
            know where and it is the God given gift of free will. You are right
            for you but not necessarily for anyone else.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I just said it shows what Americans feel about them, both good and bad. It does not say that 100% of Americans like them, but a majority do favor them. Here is something showing the ignorance and arrogance of the current pretender in the White House.
            http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-ive-got-a-little-over-1200-days-left-in-office_740820.html
            Here is another article that we can stand together and fight the violating of a persons God-given rights under the 1st Amendment.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/u-s-city-looks-to-penalize-bible-believers/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The Ten Commandments are not rules to obey as a personal favor to God. They are fundamental principles without which mankind cannot live together. The Ten Commandments are not laws. They are THE LAW. Man has made 32,000,000 laws since they were handed down to Moses on Mount Sinai more than three thousand years ago, but he has never improved on God’s law.”
            Cecil B. Demille

        • Ron

          sounds like a phony macgyver episode from long ago….i’d be willing to bet that if you were neighborhood watch and the guy grabbed you, you would not have questioned having to pull your gun to defend yourself…your story here is made up of if’s and what if’s when we all heard the facts in the case, and that is exactly how the prosecution presented their lame case against GZ…it’s obvious you did not pay attention to the case and just want to be a wannabe sympathizer to a racist black community that wants racial justice when the case was not about race…if your story is true then you would understand the true meaning of self defense and understand that WE ALL have the right to defend ourselves…just because you don’t want to believe the facts presented does not give you the right to convict someone based on what ifs!!!

          • macgyver1948

            Ron… I did not say I do not believe the “facts”, I am not sure of all of them so I question them. We weren’t there so how can we say it wasn’t racist or Z just hates hoodies? You are missing my point, we really do not know all the facts. Who were all the witnesses and with
            the boy not being able to speak for his side how do we know?

            I know we have a right to defend ourselves but did Z do the “over Kill” thing? Who really stroke the first blow or made first physical contact? If I were approached by a stranger at night especially and he touched me I think I would defend myself to the best of my scared ability but only enough to defend myself and not
            pull out my gun and kill because the law says I can.

            Who are you to say I “do not want to believe the facts” as given in court? Are you a mind reader? I want justice in every case. Good luck with that.

          • Vigilant

            “We weren’t there so how can we say it wasn’t racist or Z just hates hoodies?” Refer to the FBI investigation.

          • macgyver1948

            I was asking, I was not saying. Please learn the difference.

          • Vigilant

            You were slyly implying, not asking. Learn the difference.

          • macgyver1948

            LOL… ok, well you are on the Right so you have to be right. Right?

          • Vigilant

            Right.

            You’re not unteachable after all. Congratulations.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            WHAT jewish nonsence. You are ready to work for chuck
            shumaher or dianna from s.f.

          • macgyver1948

            Alandra… You say “WHAT jewish nonsence. You are ready to work for chuck shumaher or dianna from s.f”. What of what I write in this regard is nonsense?

            I challenge you to define “Jewish nonsense”. Do you even know what you are taking about? The Hebrew Bible, you know- what you guys renamed the Old Testament for your own purposes and changed the
            meanings of Hebrew Scripture to justify what is in your bible in places and ignore many other Hebrew scripture, and your New Testament have so many contradictions between them. Are you capable of
            understanding what is in the Hebrew Bible, I mean for real?

            We Jews do not see your Bible as a continuation of ours. I feel all Bibles should be able to stand on its own merits and if you have to change Hebrew Scriptures and meanings to justify something in yours what good is it? IF you have to ignore certain biblical facts in our
            Bible to justify your scriptures what good is yours if so much of yours is based on ours?

            To each his/her own faith so maybe we should stay away from this if you can’t take the challenge. I will start you off with question. Do you know it is a mortal sin for Jews to accept, worship and pray to Jesus? It is in the Hebrew bible stories and strongly hinted at in the first 2 of The 10 Commandants. Also did you know that the 10 Commandants is from and part of Torah, something God wants to be the Law for all times and never has been replaced, not yet anyway?

            Why do you think Christians, or whomever in history, felt the need to get rid of God’s Laws, Torah? For Jews to get rid of Torah it would be like saying no to God. We wont do that for you. IF you understood The Hebrew Bible you would know the answers and you would see the contradictions pretty clearly. This is just to start you off if you have the guts to accept the challenge so again “WHAT jewish nonsence”? :-)

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Just keep talking.

          • macgyver1948

            Alandra… . :-)… You said “WHAT jewish nonsence”. You did not say “What macgyver1948 nonsense”. That would have been a personal attack on me but I can take those nicely. Instead you went after my
            religion. So, what does that say about you? It tells me you have no regard of Freedom Of Religion. What other parts of the Constitution do you not like if they do not work for you in a given situation? We
            know you do not like people who will not agree with you politically, it is your nature your programming, but to disagree with people’s religious beliefs as well says whatever it is that you do not agree with has to be wrong. WOW, that says you are an all American
            hypocrite. I can see from your Right side Liberty views, of any kind, Liberty is fine as long as it agrees with how you believe but that is typical of so many on your side. LOL. You are a fraud and worse.
            “.

            Not accepting the challenge, are you? Is it because you are not sure of yourself, your real knowledge? :-). As you said “Just keep talking”, it works both ways.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            I see that you and Pig-Sty have become friends????
            She is the queen of the pig-pen.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…
            If you mean Alandra it is a real trip with her too. But when she put
            down my religion I had to say what I said. If that is how she feels I
            should thank her for that. LOL

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            I will take anyone on when it comes to politics. But, I do not take shots a anyone’s personal beliefs. That is just plain wrong and I believe that you were far to kind. I would have her roasting over a spit with an Apple in her mouth by now.

            Keep the faith!

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… When people get like that they show their real colors and those aren’t red white and blue. Maybe their shirts are brown… I do not need to get like them… But I agree with you about not putting down personal beliefs.

          • Charlie

            YO YO,,, what kind of Jew are you??? We figured out Mac is a “”Edomite jew” ,,, so tell us IF? yo is just plain heathen ???

          • Bob666

            Hello Charlie,
            Not Jewish, and unlike you, in full control of my faculties.

          • Vigilant

            Right!

            Congratulations, you’re not unteachable after all.

          • vicki

            We know the difference. your comments from the beginning have all been what if’s.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            This is because he has no real knowledge of the subject at hand. Here is article showing what people think about Hitlery.
            http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/hillary-clinton-is-too-old-to-be-president-94666.html?hp=r4
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He (GOD) has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effected by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Letter to James Fishback
            September 27, 1809
            Orthodox Christian
            *Not a deist.

          • Bob666

            Oh Poor historical revisionist,

            “Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.

            -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

            Thomas Jefferson
            Notes on Virginia, 1782
            September 27, 1809
            Not an Orthodox Christian

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            It seems you are the revisionist. He was talking about these things happening to those of the Christian faith, not to others by Christians. Neeeeed to study more and be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. BTW, why all the anger and hate Bob? Could it be that by telling the truth the Samurai hit several nerves? You position has been overrun, so go home and stay there.

          • Bob666

            Well little Babble Boy,
            “It seems you are the revisionist. He was talking about these things happening to those of the Christian faith, not to others by Christians”

            Just what is it that I am Trying to revise????

            Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.

            To Peter Carr Paris, Aug. 10, 1787

            Thomas Jefferson
            Third President of the United States
            Not anywhere close to an Orthodox Christian

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant… Ok, but we all know the FBI NEVER makes mistakes, don’t we?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The DOJ wanted to bring federal charges against Zimmerman, but the FBI blocked any attempt at doing so. Looks like they got this one right. Speaking of the DOJ, here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden and the DOJ are forcing Islam onto a county in Virginia. For some reason, I thought there was no government controled/regulated religion.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/obama-justice-department-forcing-islamic-supremacist-mosque-on-virginia-county/
            Couldn’t this we both could stand together on and resist this action by the current administration? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “I would advise no one to send his child where the Holy Scriptures are not supreme. Every institution that does not unceasingly pursue the study of God’s Word becomes corrupt. I greatly fear that the schools, unless they teach the Holy Scriptures diligently and impress them on the young students, are wide gates to hell.”
            Martin Luther

          • macgyver1948

            samuari…You say “Speaking of the DOJ, here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden and the DOJ are forcing Islam onto a county in Virginia. For some reason, I thought there was no government controled/regulated religion”.

            If they are forcing religion on anyone, or any specific religious beliefs or traditions, in any way then I very much would agree with you but it doesn’t look like they are from this article you suggest. For example,if some government agency/person insisted we all had to observe Sunday as the required Sabbath I would fight that all the way. If all they are doing is helping a religion establish itself in an area that is justice the American way. NYC went through this with a new Mosque very near ground zero a few years ago.

            I know from European history when at times Jews tried to establish themselves in an area where there was a “MORE TRADITIONAL” religion for that area, if you know what I mean, there were problems of the bigotry and ignorance kind and no Freedom Of Religion to protect them. We should thank God and the Constitution we have those freedoms here or no religion would be safe.

            We also had racial problems in this country, not allowing certain colors to establish themselves in parts of this country. Any form of people segregation I will not agree with.

          • Vigilant

            T’would appear that MacGyver’s stock in trade is the speculative comment, the surmise, the implication. Sorry, son, that’s not debate, that’s the feckless and gutless refuge of the propagandist and rumor monger.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Would seem so, fellow patriot. Here is an article showing how local law enforcement are treating impeach Obama bin Laden protesters.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/impeach-obama-protesters-harassedintimidated/
            I guess they don’t want the truth to get out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “And whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectfully represent in Congress to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union.”
            Articles of Confederation
            July 09, 1778

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant… Look who is calling the kettle black. You Right guys either make it up to malign the Left or you, the little guy, take it in as your programming and spread the pig waste. I’m not the “the propagandist and rumor monger” but I guess you are not programmed to see those in yourselves.

            Vickie,,, no I am not the “what if” guy either as some of you are in your attempts to get us to think in the wrong directions. Learn how to read and comprehend. Don;t take things so often out of context either

          • Vigilant

            “Vigilant… Look who is calling the kettle black. You Right guys either make it up to malign the Left ”

            Specifics, specifics, Mac. Kindly itemize even ONE thing I’ve “made up” to malign the left.

            If you can’t, keep your pie hole shut.
            .

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant…
            ah gee , just read your comments. OR do you just pick on a guy from
            the Left so you could ask this “later”?

            Besides you started this with me. I just want to exchange ideas here with those who might not see things as I do.

          • Vigilant

            Thank you for admitting you’re “a guy from the Left.” You had me going there for awhile talking about your respect for the Constitution.

            If you truly wish to exchange ideas, then perhaps you should specify any things I’ve “made up” to malign the left. There is no basis for an exchange of ideas when I proffer same and get no return from you.

            Or, perhaps for a refreshing change, counter anything I’ve said and then produce facts to substantiate it.

          • macgyver1948

            Vigilant… You say “Thank you for admitting you’re “a guy from the Left.” Yeah, I do admit I lean left, always did, but in the way you say it here it sounds like there is something wrong with being on the Left. No attack on your part, huh? Well, maybe there is to people who do not like liberty for others who do not agree with them, like you. Oh, I have more respect and love for our Constitution than you are capable of understanding. I want liberty equally for all and I want the protections it was designed for, for us from the Government. I do not know what you want from the Constitution but with how you put people down, and their leanings, for disagreeing with you it ain’t Americanism. Please do not mistake this for my denying you your Free Speech. That is way too
            important for even people like you.

            You said “Liberalism and socialism have been partners in crime for most of the last 100 year”. No put down on Liberalism on your part, is there? I do not agree anywhere near to the extent you say. Fascism
            is far Right so we can say The Tea Party and now many in the GOP who are owned by Tea are
            like them.

            There are other things you said but it’s not worth finding them because you are not worth it. You started this with me. I guess you didn’t like my comments. I do not need you to agree with me, I just wanted to exchange ideas but that cannot be done with people like you. How far RIGHT are you? Please do not answer that, it was rhetorical.

    • Vigilant

      My, my, how so many posters mention Zimmerman “making initial contact,” as if that’s the end of the story. As you say, “My how the story changes when you want to make it into a race case for others now.”

      Tell, us, Mac, based on your below posting you have the milk of human kindness dripping from every vein, and you desire a world with no crime. Where is your high dudgeon over the FACT that Zimmerman DISENGAGED but was later attacked by Martin?

      Yes, indeed, how the story changes when you suffer from cognitive dissonance.

      • macgyver1948

        Vigilant …That is your disconnected view of the events. Maybe the boy was in self defense mode since he noticed his stalker, I bet most of us would be. We just do not know all the facts even after the trial. I do not see any heroes in this story.

        • skrewdisqus

          “self-defense” does not involve turning from your original destination then going to confront another, then punching him in the face, then getting on top of him and beating his head into a concrete sidewalk. All of those actions are offensive in nature. He could have gotten off the phone with the manatee in a wig and called 911. He could have raised a ruckus to encourage others to call 911. He could have simply asked “who are you and what do you want” from a safe distance. He did “none of the above”. “Stupid” can often be fatal, as in this case.

          • macgyver1948

            skrewdisqus… You are so right “self-defense”
            does not involve turning from your original destination then going to confront another, then punching him in the face, then getting on top of him and beating his head into a concrete sidewalk. All of those actions are offensive in nature. He could have gotten off the phone with the manatee in a wig and called 911. He could have raised a ruckus to encourage others to call 911. He could have simply asked “who are you and what do you want” from a safe distance. He did “none of the above”. “Stupid” can often be fatal, as in this case.”

            “He could have, he could have, he could have”. My point is we do not really know all the facts but so many of us are acting as “EYE WITNESSES” as they know what did happen and what could have happened. We do not have the boys views on what happened, because he wasnl;t askes since he is dead, and I wasn’t there so I can’t say what happened. Do you know how scared the boy was when the stranger Zimmerman approached him and maybe made first
            contact? We just have to accept this verdict but the law needs to be father examined.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    48,000 Americans have been murdered by ILLEGAL aliens since 9/11

  • Jim Gregory

    How a Miami School Crime Cover-Up Policy Led to Trayvon Martin’s Death
    http://spectator.org/blog/2013/07/15/trayvon-crime-school-miami
    By Robert Stacy McCain on 7.15.13 @ 1:05AM

    The February 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martion might never have happened if school officials in Miami-Dade County had not instituted an unofficial policy of treating crimes as school disciplinary infractions. Revelations that emerged from an internal affairs investigationexplain why Martin was not arrested when caught at school with stolen jewelry in October 2011 or with marijuana in February 2012. Instead, the teenager was suspended from school, the last time just days before he was shot dead by George Zimmerman.

    Trayvon Martin was not from Sanford, the town north of Orlando where he was shot in 2012 and where a jury acquitted Zimmerman of murder charges Saturday. Martin was from Miami Gardens, more than 200 miles away, and had come to Sanford to stay with his father’s girlfriend Brandy Green at her home in the townhouse community where Zimmerman was in charge of the neighborhood watch. Trayvon was staying with Green after he had been suspended for the second time in six months from Krop High School in Miami-Dade County, where both his father, Tracy Martin, and mother, Sybrina Fulton, lived.

    Both of Trayvon’s suspensions during his junior year at Krop High involved crimes that could have led to his prosecution as a juvenile offender. However, Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department (MDSPD) in 2010 had implemented a policy that reduced the number of criminal reports, manipulating statistics to create the appearance of a reduction in crime within the school system. Less than two weeks before Martin’s death, the school system commended Chief Hurley for “decreasing school-related juvenile delinquency by an impressive 60 percent for the last six months of 2011.” What was actually happening was that crimes were not being reported as crimes, but instead treated as disciplinary infractions.

    In October 2011, after a video surveillance camera caught Martin writing graffiti on a door, MDSPD Office Darryl Dunn searched Martin’s backpack, looking for the marker he had used. Officer Dunn found 12 pieces of women’s jewelry and a man’s watch, along with a flathead screwdriver the officer described as a “burglary tool.”The jewelry and watch, which Martin claimed he had gotten from a friend he refused to name, matched a description of items stolen during the October 2011 burglary of a house on 204th Terrace, about a half-mile from the school. However, because of Chief Hurley’s policy “to lower the arrest rates,” as one MDSPD sergeant said in an internal investigation, the stolen jewerly was instead listed as“found property” and was never reported to Miami-Dade Police who were investigating the burglary. Similarly, in February 2012 when an MDSPD officer caught Martin with a small plastic bag containing marijuana residue, as well as a marijuana pipe, this was not treated as a crime, and instead Martin was suspended from school.

    Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley’s attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were “basically told to lie and falsify” reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.

    In fact, the reason Zimmerman was patrolling the townhouse community the night of the February 2012 shooting was that there had been a rash of burglaries in the neighborhood, although there was no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any of those crimes.

    As for Chief Hurley’s policy, it was the controversy over Martin’s death that accidentally exposed it. In March 2012, theMiami Herald reported on Martin’s troubled history of disciplinary incidents at Krop High. Chief Hurley then launched the internal affairs investigation in an attempt to find out who had provided information to the reporter. During the course of that investigation, MDSPD officers and supervisors described Chief Hurley’s policy of not reporting crimes by students. Chief Hurley was subsequently accused of sexually harassing two female subordinates. He resigned in February, about a year after Trayvon Martin’s death.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Rep Steve King to sue Obama over amnesty executive order http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdtatXoXw0

    • Bob666

      Yo Ham Hock,
      That will go down just like your girl Oily-Tatz.

      Good for humor-not much else.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        “Moron000 of the 13 generation out of 14” time after time you are proving how STUPID and DELUSIONAL you are. You are blind in your Demonic HATE.

        Where are you seeing Orly’s Web link?

        “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER” – Ron White

        Oh, BTW, do not forget to make the next reply under the names
        Justsomeguy151 or Hall of the Mountain King.

        P.S. Please Keep squeaking manurial fly.

        • Bob666

          Yo Fatback,
          That’s funny, been slopped for the evening I see.

          Justsomeguy151 or Hall of the Mountain King?

          Perhaps you are off your meds?

          • WTS/JAY

            You know, Bob, you will never get the girl…not if you continue using those awful pick-up lines…! (-:

          • Bob666

            If pork fest were the last woman of her species on the face of the earth, I would become an asexual-like a house plant.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Again with the personal attacks and arguments to ridicule. Don’t you ever grow up and try to learn something? Here is an article for you to read Bob. This article is true and you cannot prove it wrong.
            http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/cia_freemasons.html
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible.”
            George Washington
            Founding father
            “Father of our country”
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            1st President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Poor Geisha Boy,
            Another Slur, Very predictable, but you can’t prove it to be correct. So it is Just another Sammy Babble rant here on PLD.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry Bob, but the source I’ve posted is accurate and it is you, not I, that needs to prove my source wrong. Another attempt at duck and cover, but you have failed miserably. Here is another one for you Bob.
            http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/lucistrust.html
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The right way usually lies between two extremes: it is the narrow channel between the rock and the whirlpool.”
            Charles Spurgeon

          • Bob666

            Oh poor Sammy,,

            Yes, if it is on the internet, it must be true…….

            No angry little man, it is not true, no matter how much you want to believe it is.

            There is no proof to it and I know this really crushes an insecure little man like you who lacks morals and ethics or nads to stand on his own two feet.

            You are a very sad example of both a man and christian.

            “To talk well and eloquently is a very great art, but that an equally great one is to know the right moment to stop.”

            Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content by Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            It is proven every time you post. BTW, here is a nice video for you to watch about Hitlery.
            http://www.secure.stophillarypac.org/list/ttplf/Default.aspx?initiativekey=PENXUDRZRWBQ
            Sorry Bob, but Hitlery is going down for the count. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “I, too, have made a wee little book from the same materials, which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. It is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have ever seen. It is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Letter to Charles Thompson
            January 9, 1816
            Orthodox Christian
            *Sounds like he believed Jesus was the Son of God. Ergo, not a deist.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Wow, look who is talking about women!

            All your life you are “an asexual-like a house” stinky cactus. Even your mommy did not like you.
            Surely even Karolyn would not want to be with you.

            You are sooooo bitterly angry, because ALL girls/women rejected you. They killed your self-esteem.
            And man without self-esteem and self-image is very small and pitiful, just like you are.

            Thus nothing left for you but masturbate your totally loathed STUPIDITY from your subsidies studio.

            Keep yapping Libtard.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Now, now, now Alondra, we both know that Bob only comes here for the following reasons:
            1. He’s a paid troll.
            2. He’s just a spiteful little man who likes to place his displaced anger onto others.
            3. He has nothing better to do.
            Here is an article about his girlfriend Nancy Pelosi.
            http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/07/24/nancy-pelosi-creep-enabler-n1647430/page/full
            Here is one about stand your ground laws and the Obama bin Laden administration.
            http://www.politichicks.tv/column/stand-your-ground-the-governments-attack-on-self-defense/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It is the duty of all to acknowledge that the Divine Law which requires us to love God with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves , on pain of eternal damnation, is Holy, just, and good. The revealed law of God is the rule of our duty.”
            Roger Sherman
            Signer of all 4 founding documents
            Devout Christian

          • Jeff

            Yes, you’ve figured it out. Obama personally identified the only two lunatics on the internet who have “the goods” on him, so he pays Bob big bucks to take you and Alondra on. It’s the only reason he won re-election. Thanks for playing.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            You nailed that one!!!!

          • Bob666

            Yo Little Geisha Boy,

            This is funny!

            1. “He’s a paid troll”.

            Then who has my check? Unlike your receiving a government paycheck all of your life, all but thee years of mine came from the free market-another thing that you know nothing about.

            2. “He’s just a spiteful little man who likes to place his displaced anger onto others”.

            Spiteful?, I have a great family, very good retirement and sold a very successful business with a top rated reputation, I have nothing to be “spiteful” about little Geisha Boy. As usual, no facts to back up yet another fact-less Sammy comment.

            3. “He has nothing better to do”. Well Sammy, I teach one night a week and play golf three days a week.

            I have three days a week of consulting for the next 30 months. My wife says that I am busier in retirement than more full time workers.

            “Here is an article about his girlfriend Nancy Pelosi”.

            Well little Geisha Boy, as Ronald Reagan once said-“there you go again”!

            Never have liked Pelosi, she, like you suffers from a Napoleon complex and lacks the intellect to be truly successful.

            “There is no doubt in my mind that Masonry is the cornerstone of America.”

            Dave Thomas
            Freemason
            Founder of Wendy’s International

          • Bob666

            Oh Baby Backs,
            It always gets down to sex and sexuality with you followed by an unhealthy and demented comment. Your response only reinforces the fact that you are a very troubled species with little hope for evolving.

            I hope that your species will be walking up-right in the next couple of generations since you are able to type with out the aid of an opposable or prehensile thumb.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content. Sheesh! Just go home Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Go away Kang, for you have no right to be here, traitor. Care to prove my sources wrong? Where are yours? The more intelligent person would post sources. I see that I am still have the higher intellect between us. Here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden doesn’t want to work with anyone, but tries to boss people around.
            http://www.politichicks.tv/column/let-me-be-clear-obamas-not-willing-to-work-with-anybody/
            Here is an article showing how libturdism and progturdism is failing our cities, governments, and children.
            http://www.politichicks.tv/column/failing-cities-failing-politicians-failing-americas-youth/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.”
            James Madison
            America’s Providential History – p. 93
            4th President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh poor historical revisionist,

            An alliance or coalition between Government and religion cannot be too carefully guarded against……Every new and successful example therefore of a PERFECT SEPARATION between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance……..religion and government will exist in greater purity, without (rather) than with the aid of government.

            James Madison

            In a letter to Livingston, 1822, from Leonard W. Levy- The Establishment Clause, Religion and the First Amendment,pg 124.

            James Madison
            4th President of the U.S.
            Hardly a “Devout” Christian

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Soory Bob, but tis you, not I, that is the revisionist. Anyone can tel you that anyone who uses the (…) is leaving something out. Why don’t you post the whole quote and not just the area that suits you? Not good for a former professor. My students even know this. So, you are less knowledgeable than a class of high school students? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Also, you haven’t proven my factual source wrong. BTW, the quote I posted never said anything about a government regulated religion, you did. Madison said other things that you cannot prove wrong.
            “We’ve staked our future on our ability to follow the Ten Commandments with all of our heart.”
            “The internal effects of a mutable policy poisons the BLESSINGS of liberty itself.”
            I don’t know about you, but this sounds Christian to me. Here are some more:
            I enter on the trust to which I have been called by the suffrages of my fellow citizens with my fervent prayers to the Almighty that He will be graceously pleased to continue to us that protection which He has already so conspicuously displayed in our favor.”
            March 04, 1817
            “The real wonder is that so many difficulties should have been surmounted. It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it a finger of that Almighty Hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief.”
            “A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven.”
            Letters and Other Writings of James Madison, New York: R. Worthington, 1884, Vol 1, pp. 5 – 6, to William Bradford on November 09, 1772.
            Don’t know about you Bob, but they all sound Christian to me, so stop using deconstructionism, academic collectivism, modernism, and poststructuralism. It really makes you look less intellegent. Why don’t you look at this and learn, or weep in your case?
            http://www.faithfacts.org/christ-and-the-culture/the-bible-and-government
            BTW, Madison got the idea for our 3 branches of government fron Isaiah 33:22. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Bob666

            Yawn,

            “Don’t know about you Bob, but they all sound Christian to me”,
            That is because you want them to! Some of us deal with reality and you tend to believe what you want to believe-not want the facts direct rational people to believe.

            “so stop using deconstructionism, academic collectivism, modernism, and poststructuralism. It really makes you look less intellegent”.

            Wake me up when you make a relevant factual statement verse the emotional rants of pathetically irrelevant babble of an insecure little man.

            “Everything is funny as long as it is happening to somebody else.”
            Will Rogers

            Humorist and Freemason

          • Bob666

            Yo Stars,
            Never had the pleasure, but welcome to PLD. You obviously see through the little Sammy’s spin to re-write History and Alondra’s bazaar psychotic behavior.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            As I see you stoked on the Pelosi’s panty. Sorry, I can’t help you. You are veeeeery STUPID.
            Please Keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack and argument to ridicule, classic 5th column strategies. When you have no facts, distract, change the subject, duck and cover, or use misdirection. Bob you are a fraud, now be a good little boy and go play in the street. Here is an article showing a judge doing his job by standing up to Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16048-federal-judge-challenges-white-house-authority-on-drone-killings
            It also seems that people are raising funds and attacking your girlfriend Hitlery.
            http://www.politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/22/stop-hillary-group-ramps-up-anti-clinton-efforts/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Religious services are regularly performed at the University (Virginia) by a chaplain, who is appointed in turn from the four principles denominations of the State. And by a resolution of the Faculty, ministers of the Gospel, and young men preparing for the ministry, may attend any of the schools without the paymeny of fees to the professors.”
            Washington, D.C. newspaper – 1810
            *Who says the U of V was founded secular? looks like they have been caught in another lie.

          • Bob666

            On Poor Babble Boy.

            “The personal attack and argument to ridicule, classic 5th column strategies”

            No, not really.

            ” When you have no facts, distract, change the subject, duck and cover, or use misdirection”.

            No, the woman is a pig-that’s an observation.

            “Bob you are a fraud, now be a good little boy and go play in the street”

            Well Little man-put up or shut up, what is
            fraudulent about me? Just another little Sammy comment with no facts to back it up?

            BTW, I’m still waiting to hear about all those advantages that I grew up with.

            Talk about frauds-you take the cake little man!

            Empty pockets never held anyone back. Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that.
            Norman Vincent Peale, American minister and Freemason

          • macgyver1948

            Hay Bob666… it never ends with him, does it?

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac!
            I see you are back for a headache?

            Yes, little Babble man is on a roll tonight with all of the wisdom that one can fit tea spoon left over by a tea bager.

            I believe that he and Alondra switched medications at the half-way house again.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… Yeah, I see he is back with his Solomon like wisdom but I do not think he realizes how he sounds so maybe we should piutty him. LOL

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            piutty da fool!

            I don’t think so.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Samurai, the YO-YO Moron “of the 13 generation out of 14” came with the “new” name.

            Here are “his” names: “Bob666″, “Justsomeguy151″, “Hall of the Mountain King” and “Stars-n-Stripes”.

            Under these names he is posting demonic CRAP.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Once a moron, always a moron. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Oh Babble Boy,

            You are the broad definition of a Moran sad little man!

            “So far as I am acquainted with the doctrines and principles of Freemasonry, I conceive them to be founded in benevolence, and to be exercised only for the good of mankind. I cannot, therefore, upon this ground, withdraw my approbation from it” (Mackey, 1966, 1095).

            General George Washington
            Freemason
            First President of the United States.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Again with the non-important Freemasonry crap. In fact, here are some articles about what is going on with the administration of the pretender.
            http://www.cowboybyte.com/23287/irs-investigation-not-so-phony/
            http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/heatherginsberg/2013/07/24/for-every-job-created-by-obama-2-americans-enroll-in-food-stamps-n1648015
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-denounces-congress-focusing-phony-scandals-promises-more-executive-action
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong – essencially wrong – a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
            John Quincy Adams
            6th President of the U.S.
            Letters of Freemasonry, 1833
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Yo Space Alien Geisha Boy,

            Maybe you offer to be Kim’s Geisha Boy while you are over in Korea.

            “There are three kinds of men. The ones that learn by readin’. The few who learn by observation.
            The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”
            Will Rogers

          • Bob666

            Yo Porkenstein,
            Off your med’s again I see. Perhaps we could put an apple in your mouth?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep squeaking manurial fly.

          • Bob666

            And surround you with yams and carrots!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Continue squeaking manurial fly.

          • Bob666

            With some cloves, pineapple slices and candied cherries!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Bob, do you ever shut up? The woman has posted factual sources and you? Ooops! No sources. Libertarian my backside, more like libturd/progturd. Sheesh! Is that all you got Bob is personal attacks and arguments to ridicule? Sheesh! Here is an article that describes you and your ilk.
            http://www.creation.com/evolution-vs-god
            Your last few posts don’t sound too Christian to me. Must be a CINO. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “When we view the blessings with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we process of handing them down unimpaired to out latest posterity, our attention is irresistibly drawn to the source from whence they flow. Let us then, unite in offering our most greatful acknowledgements for these blessings to the Divine Author of All Good.”
            James Monroe
            5th President of the U.S.
            2nd Annual Message to Congress
            November 16, 1818

          • Bob666

            Yo lying little sack of crap,

            Why don’t you go have a meeting with Kim since you are over in Korea-You can explain American diplomacy and start a new military conflict.

            Read the real page 183 yet? You would tell a lie if the truth sounded better.

            “General Lafayette and General Washington shared not only a close friendship but membership in the Craft, a commonly used name for Freemasonry. On two occasions General Lafayette presented Masonic aprons to Washington. One of these aprons, embroidered in colored silks by Madame Lafayette, bore the emblems of the Holy Royal Arch degree. The fact that this apron was especially made for George Washington has led to much speculation that he was raised to that degree. This may be of considerable importance, for the “Royal Arch degree is the salient, spiritual degree of Freemasonry, not excepting the degree of Master Mason” (Steinmetz, 1946, 67).

            “It is impossible to account for the creation of the universe, without the agency of a Supreme Being. It is impossible to govern the universe without the aid of a Supreme Being. It is impossible to reason without arriving at a Supreme Being.”

            General George Washington
            Freemason
            First President of the United States
            Hardly a “devout” Christian

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Not as much crap as the one you just posted. KNock it off. Stars and stripes? You can’t take thius crap an wrap it up in the flag. You are a disgrace to this country, so go back from where you came from. Wasn’t it Korea? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
            Ronald Reagan
            40th President of the U.S.

          • Bob666

            Wow Sammy,

            You really know how to win friends!

            Stars-n-Stripes nailed you pretty well-he recognizes a pile of crap when he sees it!

            My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there’s hardly any difference.

            Harry S Truman quotes

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content from Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Bob666

            Poor Geisha Boy
            There is no response because you’re an Idiot.

            Stars-n-Stripes nailed you pretty well-he recognizes a pile of crap when he sees it!

            Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death.
            Omar N. Bradley

            Omar Nelson Bradley was a United States Army field commander in North Africa and Europe during World War II, and a General of the Army of the U.S. Army
            Freemason

    • Jeff

      Even Boehner recognizes that Steven King is both nuts and politically toxic. I love it when he and that Truman Capote impersonator, Reince Priebus, talk. The more people hear them, the more they hate the Repugs.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Oh, Jeffry, now you are supporting weeping RINO.
        Isn’t touching?

        • Jeff

          Aloonie:

          I have little use for Boehner and his theatrics, but he at least has some grasp of reality unlike King and you extreme right wingers. That doesn’t mean he won’t bend over for the far right as he has done so many times. Don’t get me wrong. I love it when King or Louis Gohmert or one of the other wackos says something newsworthy. It’s entertaining and reminds people how much they hate the Repugs.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, whom are you kidding Jeffry with your self-appeasing Demonic LIE!!! Boehner has NONE grasp of reality, and NEVER had, but coward caving.

            Soon he will change his party affiliation, because as a Republican he is toasted. This is REALITY, Jeffry.

            Please keep your Liberal/Progressive PROPAGANDA.

          • Jeff

            Boehner will retire before he changes parties. Maybe you can get Orly Taitz to move to his district and “primary” him. Good luck. I’d love to see a democrat hold Boehner’s old seat.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Keep masturbate your liberal/Progressive STUPIDITY Jeffry.

  • mnkysnkle

    I am George Zimmerman (Sparticus)! No trademark required…….

    • Alex

      Then you are a self-proclaimed cowardly murderer who lied to a judge.

      • mnkysnkle

        Please tell me. Does it stink when you soil yourself? Or are you used to it?

        • Alex

          Is it painful to live in your humorless void?

          • mnkysnkle

            May I quote you from one of your articulately stated, and meticulously punctuated previous postings? “—ummm……..DUH!”

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          D’oh! :-) :-) :-) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

  • Alex

    W.A.R. says that President Barack Obama is “not the nation’s first post-race president”—ummm……..DUH!

    This wretched country will not have a post-race president until we have taken our cue from the RSA and institute our own Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

  • Alex

    In a just world—which of course we do not have—Zimmy would have been rendered unconscious by the concrete and therefore unable to complete his plan to follow Martin, confront him, provoke a fight, and then shoot him to death.

    This unjust world does have a LOT of concrete, though—and Zimmy will get his…

    • WTS/JAY

      Racist!

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        The Kenyan FRAUD spent 20 years in the Racist, America hated
        Church.

        Isn’t time for Americans of all skin colors to put to end the BLACK RACISM? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmkEZliJEl8

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Here is an article that asks why Obama doesn’t say anything about 2 negro teens shooting a baby in the face.
          http://www.minutemannews.com/2013/07/obama-wheres-your-speech-for-baby-shot-in-the-face-by-black-teens/
          I guess that a 13 month old latino child is not important enough for Obama bin Laden to speak out for. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves Alex out.
          “The office of a historian is:
          1. To record the progress of human affairs as directed by the providence of God;
          2. to exhibit the connection of events, showing how an immense series is produced as cause and effect; and 3. to display the character of man and of God.”
          Jedidiah Morse
          Founding father
          Devout Christian

          • macgyver1948

            samurai… Oh man.. why not bring up every case that ever occurred and ask why Obama did not mention them? You always prove the ridiculous is your logic. Good for you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            This was just an example, but this case also made national news. The only difference was that a latino baby was killed and not a negro baby. Here is an article showing that Obama bin Laden supported the same laws while as a state senator in Illinois.
            http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/07/21736-president-obama-pushed-stand-your-ground-laws/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “That Book (the Bible) is the rock on which our Republic rests.”
            Andrew Jackson
            American Army General
            7th President of the U.S.

          • Jeff

            No, the difference is that the shooter was acquitted. Should Obama comment every time someone is shot and if he doesn’t comment about every crime, does that mean he approves? To you and Alondra, maybe so.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Wrong! The difference was that Zimmerman was on the defensive and the baby was defenseless. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Jeff

            You appear to disagree with Juror B-29 who thinks Zimmerman got away with murder because of the jury instructions and the way the prosecution presented the case. I find it hard to buy Zimmerman’s story as it tracks too neatly with the requirements of self defense. Like how he stopped pursuing Trayvon just before the fight and the way he drew his gun while he was defenseless. Plus, if Trayvon was on top and got shot in the heart, why wasn’t his blood all over Zimmerman? I think the prosecution did a poor job, possibly purposely? All that being said, I don’t completely discount the possibility he acted in self defense, but it was his unwarranted assumptions and suspicions and paranoia that caused the entire altercation. I hope he’s never allowed into law enforcement or back into Neighborhood Watch.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Don’t forget how the media hyped this thing up. I also don’t think he’ll be back on neighborhood watch. I could be wrong about that, but it is a distinct possibility. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Don 2

            Who gives a crap? The country is dying and the jerk is talking about Trayvon. What a frick’in idiot! Worst president ever, even worse than Jimmy Carter. Should have been aborted!

          • Jeff

            Maybe you should tell him what to talk about. Oh, I forgot. He got elected and you’re just a moronic blogger. Tell him anyway. Does anyone actually listen when you talk?

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          How about you start 무신론자 교포놈이냐? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Care to prove these arguments to ridicule? Zimmerman did not pull his gun till after Trayvon was on top of him, trying to kill him. If Zimmerman was doing, as you say he was, then he would have pulled his gun before doing anything. I know about this, for I served 20 years in the army, along with being in places that you would be too cowardly to go. Here is a plan that was concocted by Obama bin Laden and his terrorist friends.
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/secret-obama-plan-forfeits-temple-mount-to-palestinians/
      Here is one confirming the crossing of the Red Sea by Moses and the Israelites.
      http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chariots-in-red-sea-irrefutable-evidence/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Notice that while oppressors have carried out their plans in history, there were other forces silently at work which in time undermined their plans – as if a Divine Hand (Hand of God) were directing the counter plan. Whoever peruses the story of liberty without recognizing this feature will fail of fully comprehending the meaning of history.”
      Charles Coffin
      “Great American Historian”

    • michiganminuteman

      Alex, your stupid is showing. Try to stick to the facts. Are you referring to the concrete that little TM was bashing Zimmerman’s head against? Little TM just got caught bringing a thug to a gun fight. So now all of us are arguing about a case of self defence instead of talking about all of obummers crimes against the citizens of this country! You sir are a “usefull idiot”, according to obummer.

    • Don 2

      In a just world, which of course we do not have, you would not have been born!

  • Ron

    Amazing when you come here to read all these opinions..you can really pick
    out the liberals because they want equality just like us conservatives..well almost…they think they are entitled to equality along with every welfare program out there. They believe in redistribution of wealth as their beloved leaders have convinced them they deserve. They call it sharing…why work for it when their Gov’t will take it away from those who have and give it to those who want! Gov’t has convinced them that all these entitlements are to help them get out of the hole they live in…while all along, all it has ever done is kept them in those holes and in fact dug them deeper to keep them there. But they continue to believe the lies they are told and continue to blame everyone else for their problems. Obama has been the worst so far of anyone and yet they continue to vote for these liberals because they will give them something for nothing and promise to get them out of that hole…how has that worked for you lately? So liberals…continue to believe it is all our fault that you are the scum you really are and stay in that hole instead of WORKING your way out and taking responsibility for who and what you are. You do not know the truth when you hear it because all the people you put your trust in continue to lie to your face and instead of finding fact in what you speak you just reiterate what you have been told!! This world today is not Liberal against Conservative…Democrat against Republican…but GOOD against EVIL and you have sided with EVIL and those are the facts! And if any one of you would open your eyes you would see…your Gov’t that you think so highly of has set us against each other, to take the attention away from themselves, because we want the same equality for ALL people, and when you realize this and we can agree to come together, we can bring Gov’t down and take our lives back, take our freedom back, and finally live in Peace!! This is a Libertarian site..if you are any of the above described other than GOOD get lost, leave this site and go back to your hole and enjoy your life there, we want to move on!!!

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Here is an article that has shocked the media world.
    http://www.americanvison.org/8868/journalist-creationist-evolutionists-insane/
    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “Every student, when he is fully trained, will be like his teacher.”
    Luke 6:40
    *This will describe the conditions at our schools these days.

  • boyscout

    No sense wasting effort on those who would have Z executed for pinning down, beating, then shooting to death a poor honest angelic 12 year old weakling black child whose only mistake was to wear a hoodie on his way home from church meeting. They want to be black too.

  • ridge runner

    My George Z moment is when I get another rifle and get it sited on the range,using images of thugs robbing old ladies. Like grouping of 4″ on 4 images at 500 feet. Between the black rabble rousers and the muslim marxist keeps whipping up the racist BS along with the Democrat Party. Keep buying guns of ant type and keep plenty of ammo.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Video documenting how the U.S. Dept. of Justice helped the Dream Defenders — a bogus “student group” run by paid activists with links to ACORN and Occupy — target George Zimmerman and the Sanford police chief in April, 2012.

  • An Old Seabee

    The White Side of the Story of Negroes

    This is the reason CNN has dropped Buchanan. It’s like Newt GO. said, “You are not supposed to bring up uncomfortable Facts.” (verified on Buchanan’s website)

    BUCHANAN TO OBAMA

    Finally…It is Said Publicly. I have never seen the white side explained better!

    Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it. It is about time!!

    BUCHANAN TO OBAMA

    cid:1.3414169196@web160706.mail.bf1.yahoo.comBy Patrick I. Buchanan

    Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America .. Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to… This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances, and demands heard. And among them are these:

    First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known. Jeremiah Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

    Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the ’60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream. Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks — with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas — to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

    We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude??

    Barack talks about new ‘ladders of opportunity’ for blacks. Let him go to Altoona ? And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for ‘deserving’ white kids…? Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America ? Is it really white America ‘s fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

    Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

    As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

    Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

    We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tanana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena . And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

    Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.

    • Jeffrey T

      Its how people are raised! They have to WANT TO CHANGE! But dont. Its to easy to BLAME WHITEY! For their own FAILURES & LAZYNESS!
      And if you dont AUTOMATICLY AGREE with them your labeled as a RACIST & BIGOT! Their will NEVER BE a 2 way conversation untill were allowed to voice our own opinions ( which is part of the Constitution ” the Free speech part etc. But like I said its easier to play the blame game instead of them taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their own actions! Is it a white persons fault that blacks are killing blacks in crime ridden neighbor hoods nation wide?? And when cops have a perp that NO ONE SAW NUTIN! OR KNOWS NUTIN! Letting the bad guy off! Yeah didnt everyone know that a WHITE PERSONS HAND forces that black one to pull the trigger! Or deal in drugs or join a gang! The Blacks have been spoon fed and handed all kinds of pro kudosvthat white people dont get! Like Affirmitive action hiring! Where companies & other organizations hire less qualified black applicants etc ( ive seen it first hand in the FD Academy) my best friend was an Affirmitive action hire I helped him study to pass his FF3 test etc . Blacks need to stop the IM STILL RACIALY OPPRESSED VICTIM STATUS! Its 2013 and we have a White-Black POTUS ( THOUGH A DISMAL FAILURE HE IS) SO if their are SO MANY RACIST & BIGOTS IN THE USA! How did he get Elected 2x???

  • Libertarian Soldier

    Even if George Zimmerman was a card carrying KKK member (he’s not) as well as, for the sake of argument, the president of a fictitious organization called the Anti-Black, Hispanic-American Coalition, he should not have been convicted, legally because he was where he was supposed to be, doing what he was supposed to be doing.

    Doesn’t it scare you that if George was indifferent toward blacks or even found them unpleasant or maybe made an observation about the disproportionate amount of drug crime, gang crime, violent crime, particularly murder and black on white, black on black crime, he might have been convicted even though he did everything right?

    When we get to this honest conversation we’re supposed to have about race, I hope we get to the fact that we are under siege by the institutional racism of our government, including our pResident, our AG, the head of our Just Us Dept. and our media that don’t understand why people fear young black men visiting our gated communities from the time we go to kindergarten to the time we get to prison for defending our lives, until they get to the “Just Us Department” or the white house or if we’re not black we’re the real victim, dead of multiple blunt trauma, maybe even asphyxiation at the T of a walkway where a suspicious young black guest in our gated community that he had already left 5 minutes before.

    Our ethnic comedians can tell 25 jokes with “white boy” as the punch line and people laugh but statistics related to blacks, and noticing young, black men as potentially dangerous is “racist”. That is the world in which we live.

    Screw the speech police. The world is here as we find it. We are not criminals for saying what we see and acting in the interest of good sense just because we are brain washed that we are not supposed to call a club a diamond. Did I say spade a heart? You know what I mean. Just that jack boot brain washing from public schools won’t let me say it.