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More Foolish Anti-Gun Legislation

January 13, 2011 by  

One of the most foolish proposals being made in the wake of the shooting of 20 people in Tucson, Ariz., which killed six including a Federal judge, is one made by Representative Peter King (R-N.Y.). He plans to introduce legislation that would make it a crime to bring a gun within 1,000 feet of a government official.

There is no reason for such a law except to put more restrictions on gun ownership in an effort to slowly legislate them out of existence.

Such a law surely would have made no difference in the Tucson shooting. If someone is so unbalanced that they would think shooting a government official is the way to achieve some goal, they are not going to pause and think about the consequences of breaking King’s proposed law.

King, who the National Rifle Association has graded a “D” on gun rights, is joined by anti-gun nut Michael Bloomberg, New York’s mayor.

Quoting Cesare Beccaria from his work Of Crime and Punishments, Thomas Jefferson once said, “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”

A knee-jerk reaction to the actions of a mentally deranged young man is no reason to forget this.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Vicki

    Oh gee. lets make a bunch of moving gun free zones to irritate law abiding citizens and at the same time keep anyone who might be able to stop a crazed killer at least 1000 ft away.
    Maybe it will work as well as in this video.

    Or is the law only for the commoner? With the Royal Guard armed and standing well within the 1000 ft gun-free zone?

    • barbm

      if this had happened at a republican rally, there would be no need for the nut job to have a trial. he’d have been hit by so many bullets, his mama might not have recognized him. they want to blame the media, palin, his parents – my question is – where the heck were the police? isn’t it customary to have lots of cops at rallies? the sheriff is to blame if anybody is besides the nut behind the gun. but the sheriff was pointing his finger at everybody else.

      • Ted Crawford

        He is very, very aware of that, his immediate finger pointing is a clear sign of that!

    • JC

      Better idea…we should pass a law making it illegal for a Government official to come within a 1000 feet of a gun. ;)

      • Vicki

        I like it. They are the ones that know were they are :)

    • s c

      Vicki, if you have relatives or friends living in New York, you might ask them if King is on their RINO list. King sounds like a 5 year old brat who’s trying to impress the rest of his grade school class by confusing Peter Pan ‘feelings’ with the adult world.
      When will people start to see that when elected types start acting like useful idioys on the other side of the aisle [McCain, Specter, Graham, etc.] those people are RINOs at best and quite probably closet progressives?

  • peter

    Spot on Vicki – are the officials bodyguards criminals then?

    • Lomax

      Foolish laws are made by foolish people, and Peter King is among the most foolish of the bunch of idiots that reside in the Congress. As I remember, he is the one that was accusing the Minutemen of America of shooting people for sport in a town hall meeting last summer when he was asked about boarder control. He is an idiot, and the type most likely to propose such stupid laws that they can’t enforce. He needs to be voted out of office in 2012, and should be targeted as such.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        watch the use of that “target” word!! The libbies here will report you to the giverment!!!

  • James in NY

    “Such a law surely would have made no difference in the Tucson shooting.” – Perhaps true of the law proposed by Peter King. But a law mandating stricter background checks for mental illness may have stopped the Tucson shooter. He was rejected by the military when he applied. Perhaps better background checks with longer waiting periods may have prevented the shooter from getting a gun in the first place.

    • Lomax

      Since he hadn’t even been evaluated mentally at all because no one picked up on his problem, he would not have been on the radar screen and he no doubt would have had the gun anyway. Mostly, his parents and the school that he was kicked out of should have realized that something was wrong with him and taken appropriate action.

  • Old Dog V

    Aside from the doubtful Constitutionality of this, it would be ineffective. I was trained in the USMC, & have successfully snipped at 1000 METERS. Over 3 times the distance. I am certain there are many others with greater skill. All this would accomplish is to prevent Joe Citizen from helping to protect the innocent. Also, it would load the courts with folks who enter that 1000 ft. zone totally unaware that some official that he neither knows or cares about is there. One could be on their way to a skeet range, driving by a meeting he knows nothing about, with a legal shotgun in the car and get jail time.

    • Lomax

      That is no doubt what Peter King wants.

      • EddieW

        It is utterly amazing! More people die…over 100,000 a year, from their prescriptions, than do from guns!! Let’s outlaw prescriptions!!! They are deadly dangerous!! A better place to start, than taking away more of our freedoms!!!!

        • JC

          I read an actual breakdown of stats once that showed you were 8 or 9 times more likely to be killed by a Doctor than a gun in the US.
          And I believe it too.

    • JC

      A Zeiss 1000 perched on top of a Remington win mag ain’t military grade, but it’s pretty damned impressive. And you just watch them go flying off the shelf if this idiot gets to pass his bed wetter law.
      Everything Government does gets the opposite reaction of whatever they intended…and it always baffles them why..

    • Dan Burke

      If they pass this law, I think it should include something that MANDATES all those government officials wear a GPS tracker at ALL times with real-time data displayed on something like Google maps so all of those who would obey the laws of the land can know when and where we can carry guns. It would be the only reasonable way for us to make sure we were 1,000 feet away from any government official.

      Of course, the downsides to such a tracking system:

      1. Anyone who really wished to do the harm would know where they are at every minute of the day.

      2. It would be impossible for them to have secret meetings because their positions would be known at all times.

      3. And of course, that little indiscretion while their spouse was away would be easily discovered and proven….

      So I can easily understand why they would want to pass the law without giving us a reasonable means to obey the law.

  • Janie Chitester

    We lived in East Africa for a while, where guns are completely outlawed by the citizens, and as a result crimes are committed daily against them, with guns, since the criminals are the only ones with the guns!! Rediculous!!


    [offensive comment removed]

    • Josh

      Reducing Gun Ownership by Law-Abiding Citizens Does Nothing to Reduce Violence.

  • Bert Cundle


    • http://?? Joe H.

      Also in the second post ABOVE yours!!

  • Bert Cundle

    GOVERNMENT Showing its Paranoia AGAIN… That is why many Ansestors wanted a savior!

  • Dana

    This proposal does spark an interesting idea for a slightly different law.

    It should be illegal for any government official to be within 1000 feet of a gun.

    The penalty, well, there’s already a gun handy — just kidding (about the penalty).

    • Bert Cundle

      Or order the use of any weapons!

    • JC

      Damn! I posted that same idea above and thought I was being original. Hats off to you Dana! :) LOL

  • David in Ma.

    And, how will I know when i’m within this 1000 ft zone, will the “govt. official” be wearing a sign saying who he/she is?

    Talk about crosshairs or bullseyes—-ooop’s, just a metaphore…

    • 45caliber

      No, he would have to issue a daily warning of where he will be every minute of the day. Of course, if you are a sniper, this would be very handy …

      And it would have to be ALL politicians who did this daily, including Oblama …

    • Dana in AZ

      Government officials are fairly easy to recognise. They are the ones who either take your money or freedom against your will or are talking about devising more ways to take your money or freedom against your will.

      The most easiest to recognise are those the try to explain, while they are taking your money or freedom, how it is good for you to have your money and freedom taken against your will and especially how good it is to have your money go to someone else of their choosing (less what they keep for themselves).

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dana in Az,
        It’s even easier than that! They’re the only well dressed beggars with their hand out!!

  • 45caliber

    I saw an article on this proposed law this morning – and it said “federal official”. He wasn’t even going to include the state or local politicians. Only the federal ones deserved protection.

    • independant thinker

      And federal official, if one wanted to streach the meaning to the limit, could mean any federal employee.

  • Bert Cundle

    Republicians Should have Democrat Guards! & Versa Visea!

    • 45caliber

      The libs would almost have to have conservative guards. Most libs are scared to death of touching a gun. They believe that guns are a virus that infects those who touch it. And they don’t really trust anyone, even someone who insists they are liberal too, if that person owns/carries/or even likes guns.

      • Bert Cundle

        Liberals Are The Wild Card!

  • Bert Cundle

    The scales of justice: Show Law on 1 side & Order on The other side…
    Beacuse they DON’T MIX!!! When together.

  • Rcaston

    Yep. Lets make the Elitist in DC’s perch a little higher as they gaze down among us peasants. That’s all we need. Is their perch not already high enough?

    • 45caliber

      I always liked to see birds sitting high on a limb. They make such good targets that way!

  • patrick

    Yup the old ” blame the gun for killing people “. I heard a story about a small village in Africa, the tribe members did not have any money and there were not any guns around. Well there was a lot of political unrest as most of us have read about in that area. Killings and chopping off of arms and legs and many other atrocists acts. So the tribe had been told about a special technique that would mame and disable their attackers. So to get even they were told by a medical expert, that if one were to stick a large steel rod, needle, or knife into a very specific spot on someone’s lower back, they would become totally disabled and be bedridden in a hospital for the rest of their life. So the fact is, it’s not the gun… it’s person pulling the trigger! Furthermore, do you remember the lady that drowned 4 or 5 kids in a bathtub? I think we should ban bathtubs then!

  • IBR


  • Donna Colmena

    Guns, Match’s, Baseball bats, vehicles and knives. These things do not kill unless a person uses them intentionally or accidentally. If I have a book of matchs that does not make me want to be a arsonist anymore than feeling I need a gun to protect my inocent family makes me want to actually have to kill someone in self defence.
    I have a schizophrenic son. As a child I could not get him diagnosed because the government dose not want children labeled, so he suffered to adulthood after being diagnosed with the old standby ADHD and given medication for it. this made him worse because this medication will make a schizphrenic progress and become sicker. Then as an adult child, 18, they told me that they could not help him until he got arrested or hurt someone. He was never violent so we had to wait until he had a total psychotic breakdown and almost had to be locked up for the rest of his life before we finally knew what was wrong with him. With loving care, structure and a stable home we brought him back from insanity, now on the right medication. My mother a retired Psychiatric Nurse said the problem our Society is facing is that we do not have the Mental Hospitals we once had for the truley ill. They need a safe, secure, structered setting. They cannot take care of them selves. The don’t get their prescription filled, they don’t remember to take their pills, they get on drugs to self medicate. It used to take 2 or 3 concerned family members or resonable people to report to the authoritie that someone needed help. They would take them in and evaluate them. If this had been still the way in this country. We would have paid to help this man in Arizona, not spent the money on a trial to defend him and have to live with the knowledge that our society let him down and we all pass those homeless people, they are the mentally ill we do not care for. These people would never have been murdered if the college could have asked the authories to pick him up for mental help. Please write your congressmen about re-enacting mental health guildlines that listen to those who see these people everyday that need help. Thank You.

    • libertytrain

      Donna, I am sorry you had to endure this. Yet, it is truly kind of you to post your story to make it clear that it’s not easy to get help in this kind of situation until something goes terribly wrong. I don’t think most people understand the situation but your words should make it clearer.

    • Bert Cundle

      The Government… Isn’t the only ones that Should have helped “HIM”. His Grevance was often against ATHORITY! ( He is Not Alone!) The Bush Terms (“Father & Son”) Where, Athority Congressional / Presidental & Judical. NEEDED FIXING!!! The Public isn’t Smart or Strong enough to Fix CRIMINALITY in GOVERNMENT!!! Judical is beholding to politicans! No wonder this country is in such a mess!!!!!

      • Bert Cundle

        If there so many people that are mad about the Shootings here in the U.S… How many people are mad about the BOMBINGS OUR POLITICANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR!!! Foreigners don’t count, when they are there? ONLY WHEN THEY ARE HERE?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Gee Bert,
          what about the Americans killed in foreign countries?? Or should I say MURDERED?? The pirates? The terrorists that threw a quadra-plegic overboard?? Those are just civillians, what about the Cole? what about the Marine barracks? what about the Embassy bombings? Or don’t THEY count???

          • Bert Cundle

            what about the Americans killed in foreign countries??/////// AMERICANS? “NORTH & SOUTH”? ( Mexicans, Canadians & Panamanians?)
            Few of them go anyplace other than UNITED STATES!
            WHEN WE ARE ATACKED… There is often/always a reason! They can be clasified as retalatory! NOT POSSIBLE? Our government doesan’t do anything wrong?

  • JLC

    What is the point in enacting yet another law? We already have laws against shooting people. One man broke it and six people died. One person! Try him! Convict him! Hang him, and get off the backs of 300 million innocent bystanders!

    • JC

      The goal is to disarm us all.

    • Bert Cundle

      Giving ‘Law Makers Something to do… They are paid 24/7/365/Year after year… $$$,$$$.$$ + Tips!

      • Bert Cundle

        I heard that Government passed a Law… ( UNLAWFUL to ware Conceled BODY ARMOR ) Unless a Police, Sheriff, or have a permit!

  • GregS

    I can just see it now: Scanning machines and groping patdowns in all of the gun-free zones. Just like the airports! Kewl!!! It’s what the liberals do!

    • Bert Cundle

      You think that is bad? What about “tracking device” on your DRIVERS LICENSE? Remote Control of Your Car, by Gov. FUTURE IS DIMM!!!

      • Bert Cundle


    • Bert Cundle

      18It’s what the liberals do!0 Degrees from RIGHT! [[ It’s what the liberals do! ]]

      • Bert Cundle

        ( 180 Degrees from Right.) [ It’s what the liberals do!]

    • Bert Cundle

      Blaming Liberals, for Crimes, is as wrong as can be!!!

      • GregS

        Perhaps I’m misunderstanding your statement, but it seems you’ve missed the point: The liberals are blaming conservatives, especially in this latest incident. What planet did you just fly in from???

  • Not Perfect

    Sounds like he’s a Wolf in Sheep’s clothing in other words doesn’t matter whether it’s a liberal or a so-called libtard! King should just do one thing in his miserable life and that is SHUT THE HELL UP! Retire, go home you yellow gutless explanation of an AMERICAN LIBERAL!!!


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