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More Evidence Of Impending Societal Collapse

December 26, 2012 by  

More Evidence Of Impending Societal Collapse
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Manners, common decency and respect for others are lost American traits.

Interactions turn nasty at the drop of a hat. Name-calling and the violence now pass for discussion. Young children are resorting to theft.

I recently wrote about some of the signs of societal collapse here. Here are some more, taken from recent headlines:

A Pennsylvania man became irate after the replacement hamburger he requested contained a slice of cheese. The replacement was necessary because the first one he ordered at the drive-thru also contained a slice of cheese. He parked his car, entered the restaurant and demanded and received a refund. He then cursed the staff, knocked over a trash can and threw a children’s high chair across a room filled with diners. When he realized that a restaurant worker had followed him outside to get his license plate number, the man grabbed the female worker, put her in a headlock and smashed the phone she was carrying. He then threatened to fight another employee before leaving.

A 65-year-old priest waiting on a bus was attacked with pepper spray and robbed of $125 at a bus stop in Philadelphia in broad daylight.

A college student riding a Chicago Transit Authority train was attacked by a man who put a sock filled with feces in her face and hair and on her clothes. The victim said she did not know the attacker and he uttered no words and did not demand her valuables. “I don’t know why he did it,” she said.

A diner at a Denny’s restaurant in San Antonia, Texas, became irate at being made to wait on his bill, so he set fire to the restaurant’s Christmas tree and left the restaurant. The flames caused $150,000 in damage to the business.

An 8-year-old girl was caught on a surveillance camera stealing a package off her neighbor’s porch in Clermont, Fla. Police investigating a spate of missing packages from the neighborhood believe the girl is responsible for all or most of them. Some of the stolen packages were found at a nearby abandoned house.

In Wentzville, Mo., barbershop patrons were discussing the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings. One patron said the incident “makes me want to murder the suspect.” For unknown reasons, another patron took that as a threat against him. He retrieved a gun from his car and fired three times at the other patron.

In South Union Township, Pa., two women tussled over a shopping cart at the Wal-Mart Supercenter. When one of the women abandoned the cart and grabbed another, the other woman “still engraged” then “ran down” the first woman with the cart, pushed it onto her back and began punching her in the face.

On a single afternoon in Chicago, a city in the State with the Nation’s most restrictive gun laws, a series of eight shootings left at least 10 people wounded, including four teenagers.

We live in a Nation in which God has been removed from schools, prayers are banned from public places and babies are slaughtered by the thousands on a daily basis. Unemployment remains high and inflation is sapping the wealth of the elderly and savers. Politicians squabble over whether they are going to screw us out of a lot of money or a lot more while ginning up class envy and promoting hatred of one group over another simply on the basis of wealth.

We have become an entertainment-centric, me-first society that has gone from slouching toward Gomorrah to a full-on sprint. We are on the brink of societal collapse.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • b

    Times surely have changed. When I was in High school and college students routinly carried guns in their vehicle so they could run to the woods after class and get in a little hunting. There was never any concern about this and there were never any shootings because of the ready availability of the guns. In fact it was never even a concern that someone might shoot up the school. Another thought, in the 1800s it was common for students to carry firearms to school and into the classroom especialy in the rural areas. I have never read about any of them shooting up the school.

    • http://Firefox Mike

      I too remember while attending High School in the late 50′s, during the Pheasant hunting season, students would bring shotguns to school and leave them off at the Principals office, retrieving them at the end of the school day to go hunting. When I tell others of this glimpse of our innocent past, they respond as though I am a visitor from another planet. Figuratively speaking, I guess I am. That America is long gone and we are the lesser for it!

      • Robert Wilson

        You are,(probably), a country boy like me. You and I were taught responsibilities that are un heard of today, with behavior that went with it. The FEEL-GOOD parental guidance, and the schools that go with it produces spoiled, uneducated, misguided brats. The results of this adult mismanagement is what you see through-out society today.

        • walter77777

          No one will go hunting after class in an inner city school. the fact tht there are peopel with guns outside of the school makes the school a refuge for many students who have ambition to get out of the ghetto.

          W.

      • http://naver samurai

        That may be Walter, but then why are so many of these schools failing? They have many failing students, failing teachers, many drop outs, drugs, pregnant teenagers, and many of the graduates can’t read their own diploma, so this is a way for them to get out of the ghetto? Sounds like they are not making progress, now does it? Here is something about how the people of the ghetto are believing in a fake holiday.

        http://www.humanevents.com/2012/12/26/ann-coulter-kwanzaa-holiday-brought-to-you-by-the-fbi/

        If they always believe dumb stuff, like this, then they will never improve. Stay in school and get good grades. This is always the best way to get out of the ghetto. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I think it proper here not only to subscribe to the entire belief of the great and leading doctrines of the Christian religion, such as the Being of God, the universal defection and depravity of human nature, the divinity of the person and the completeness of the redemption pirchased by the blessed Savior, the necessity of the operations of the Divine Spirit, of Divine Faith, accompanied with an habitual virtuous life, and the universitality of the Divine Providence, but also…that the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom; that the way of life held up in the Christian system is calculated for the most complete happiness that can be enjoyed in this mortal state; that all occaisions of vice and immorality are injurious either immediately or consequentially, even in this life; that as Almighty God hath not been pleased in the Holy Scriptures to prescribe any precise mode in which He is to be publically worshipped, all contention about it generally arises from want of knowledge or want of virtue.”

        Richard Stockton
        Signer of the Declaration of Independence

    • czman

      In the mid 60s, in high school, I had a class titled Military Science, we had a live-fire rifle range (.22s) on the school grounds and trained with surplus M-1 rifles. No one was ever shot or hurt!

      • Bill

        Czman,
        I was also a member of ROTC at my high school. I could tear down and re-assemble my M-1 Garand with my eyse closed

      • BR549

        People are becoming “unglued”. Under normal circumstances, when a person or group can ascertain the source of the problem, they can focus their energies on removing it, but when that enemy is elusive, or in this case INTENTIONALLY elusive, people are left taking their stress out on each other.

        If the source of the stress was external, the government would be reminding us how to more efficiently cope with each other, but since the government (members of it, anyway) has been either the cause or a willing globalist participant in the stress, it isn’t about to help anyone.

    • http://AOL.COM Ray Davies

      And in most cases the trucks (and cars) were unlocked and if the weather was nice, the windows were open. Those of us kids who were too poor for a vehicle took our guns and left them with the principal and after school went hunting with our buddies. We got into a lot of fist fights back then and nobody even thought of getting a gun. When the fight was over, the problem was solved,the answer was had,and the participants would just as likely walk away arm in arm. Of course, he had prayer in schools, discipline and self discipline in those days. RESPECT for parents,teachers,cops,clergy,and each other

      • http://yahoo mary j herndon

        Back in the 50.s we had respect for others we had responsibility, we had good old common sense. and yes there was those who had religion & in the late 60,s here came the drugs and every thing went down hill from there, and now where are the parents. children live from what they see and learn from home and their parents. We uses to be close nit families sitting down at the table to eat a meal together but not any more. seems like we have to be in front of the T.V. 24^7 and what we see on TV isn.t all that great for all to see. Parents you set an example for your own children they look up to you to do & to teach them right from wrong

      • STEVE E.

        Those were the Good Old Days. I remember them too. It’s too bad everyone is stupid now.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        It started in the 60′s and 70′s with the whole “me” generation. “If it feels good, do it.”. Then in the 80′s it was the whole “tolerance” generation. “I’m ok, you’re ok.” The 90′s brought on “political correctness” and the 00′s gave us “hate crimes”, as if some crimes were worse than others! The commercials on tv tell us that we absolutely must have the latest and greatest. So now, everyone feels “entitled” to everything and they feel that others MUST accept them no matter what they do! They all think they’re part of a persecuted class and no one is allowed to say anything or do anything! They think that the government should rescue them from every situation, after all, nothing is their own fault! The vast majority of people in this country are immature, irresponsible, ninnies!!! Many people are frustrated and ready to explode! End political correctness and bring personal responsibility back!

      • marines-help1

        I went to school in the 60′s and 70′s and yes we had respect for one another and never had to worry about a Gun coming into play. The schools today are breeding these little monster. Has anyone botherd to read what they are teaching our kids today? The Liberal/Communist agenda is throughout the books, and respect for another person does not even come into play in the schools today. Go listen to Dr. Michael Williams radio show “The Patriot Report” on webtalkradio,net and get the real story to what is happening in our Nation!

    • Jeff

      In the 1800s, guns were muskets compared to modern weapons. And you don’t know there were no shootings. Have you done an exhaustive search?

      According to the author, the answer to the problem is to subject non-Christian schoolkids to Christian prayers in school. Like singling out kids as “different” will decrease feelings of alienation.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Colt 45 revolvers and 12-15 shot Winchester lever action rifles were/are hardly comparable to muskets.

        • Jeff

          In comparison to an AR-15? The person who posted about kids bringing guns to school in the 1800s was, I assume, talking about hunting rifles.

      • Mike

        I fell sorry for Jeff. He cannot see a common thread. He ignorantly thinks people force religion on kids in school. He is missing something in his life and cannot stand others having it and feeling at peace. More than feel sorry for him, I pity his worthless existence.

      • tim orner

        Jeff, You should do an exaustive search. What you will find, is since 1965 when the beginning of kicking GOD out of the public sector of this country, ALL of the satistics about all of the topics listed by the writer, has risen substantially. There are two spiritual forces in existence, that which is good, and that which is evil. One ALWAYS fills the vacume of the other. Our founders new that this experiment was fragile, and they also knew that without a strong moral nation, it would cease to exist. Our problems in Washington are EASY to solve, all we have to do is put GOD back in his rightful place .

        • Jeff

          Is it pure coincidence that when God was, as you say, part of the public sector that people of color and non-Christians were not? Perhaps your concept of “God” is simply whatever looks most like you.

      • STEVE E.

        Nothing wrong with hurting feelings of people like that. Jesus did it all the time. They got their feelings hurt so bad that they hung Him from a cross. Now do some extensive research on that.

      • Laurence Tribe

        Surely subjecting kids to adherence to some kind of ethical behavior is preferred to the “free-for-all” that society has become. The benefit of controlling one’s own behavior,for the most part, is that society is in less need of a government police force. I’m sure you’ve noticed that as religion is being replaced with a non-God, socialistic society, there is a greater need for creating a “police state”. You’re also aware of the present proliferation of law and government control which is accepted and acceptable until it becomes apparent that those who enter government love power and authority. History teaches that overbearing governments perish and the cycle starts anew. I’m old. Good luck.

      • Jeff

        Mike:

        I’m not missing anything. School is not supposed to be Sunday School. And nobody stops anyone from praying in school. What schools should not do is compel public prayers and/or force non-Christian kids to “opt out.” Keep prayers private or in Church and everyone is better off.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        This country was FOUNDED and blessed on the belief in GOD!!! Our founding fathers NEVER promised anyone freedom FROM religion! They just promised there wouldn’t be ONE established and required religion. It was the basis of the belief in GOD that made this country great and it was the introduction of the idea that the few could dictate to the many that have brought this country down! When GOD was removed from our country, so too were our blessings! As ye sow, so shall ye reap!!!

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “The person who posted about kids bringing guns to school in the 1800s was, I assume, talking about hunting rifles.”

        And you know what ASSuming something says about you.

        The students carried all kinds of firearms. Colt 45 revolvers, Winchester lever actions, sharps 50s, Spencer repeating rifles, etc. to name a few. The Winchester and ?Spencer Repeating rifles were the “assualt weapon” of the day. Both could be fired rapidly and the Spencer could be reloaded in a matter of seconds.

        • Jeff

          Which gun did you take to school, Grampa?

      • sam1966

        Here is Jeffy lying again and stinking up this site. What do you mean religion shouldn’t be taught in school, but only in church? Do you have to say the same lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hate on this site? Why do you show your ignorance every time you post? Religion, prayer, and the Bible not in schools? That is a lie, in fact is it a federal law that they be read and performed in schools.

        “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the benefit of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encourged.”

        The Northwest Ordinance
        Article 3
        April 07, 1789

        This was singed into law by George Washington himself. It was even ruled by the SCOTUS to use the Bible, the new testiment, in all schools.

        “Why may not the Bible, and especially the New Testiment, without note or comment, be read and taught as a divine revelation in schools. Its general precepts expounded, its evidences explained and its glorious principles of morality inculcated? Where can the purest principles of morality be learned so clearly or so perfectly as from the New Testiment?”

        Vidal vs. Girard’s executors 1844
        Unanimous decision commending and encouraging the use of the Bible in government run schools.

        If you ever di time with the military, I know you had no nads to serve, you would know that if the chaplain said “Let us Pray.”, if you didn’t want to pray, you just stood there and shut up to respect those that did want to pray. Who are these students you are talking about? Atheists? They have no right to stop prayers, Bible readings, etc., for this would be violating our God given right to freedom of religion. Sorry son, but there is freedom of religion in the country, not freedom from religion. These students you talk about are no better than the 5th columners on this site. Also, this nation was founded on Christian principles and not a secular state. As long as these are the principles that we were founded on, we will always be known as a Christian nation.

        “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not be religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

        Patrick Henry
        March 23, 1775

        This is what happens when the SCOTUS and a very vocal minority of fools have tried to get anything about God, Jesus, the Bible, and Christianity out of our schools. The reason why they are so bad and there are so many mass shootings in them are all made possible by the libtard/progtard lifestyle that is being forced onto this great country. Here is something else showing how schools in Texas are getting more islamic in their curriculums and less Christian.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/is-texas-cscope-curriculum-pro-islam-anti-christian/

        You and your ilk are a disease Jeffy, so now it is time for this nations medication. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Every man ought to be protected in worshipping the Diety (GOD) according to the dictates of his own conscience.”

        George Washington
        May 1789

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “Which gun did you take to school, Grampa?”

        Jeff has no logical answer to facts so he attempts to insult. Sorry Jeffy boy but your attempt (which was weak to begain with) failed miserably.

      • sam1966

        That is because he is weak, Buster. I guess he and his ilk just can’t lie good enough to be believeable anymore. Here is a small victory for God and all patriots:

        http://www.lifenews.com/2012/12/21/mom-changes-mind-about-abortion-after-newtown-shooting/

        I guess that Jeffy will deny that God helped this girl choose to keep her baby and not to murder it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy out. I invite him to respond.

        “If the time ever comes when we shall go to pieces, it will be from inward corruption – from the disregard of right principles…from losing sight of the fact that “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but that sin is a reproach to any people” (Proverbs 14:34)…The secession of the Southern States in 1860 was a small matter with the secession of the Union itself from the great principles enunciated in the Declaration of Independence, in the Golden Rule, in the Ten Commandments, in the Sermon on the Mount. Unless we hold, and hold firmly to these great fundamental principles of righteousness…our Union…will be “only a covenant with death and an agreement with hell.”

        Rev. Francis Grimke

        • Jeff

          Faque:

          If you assume God is responsible for “good” decisions and “good” outcomes, who is responsible for the “bad” ones? I know your answer is the Democrats, but I’m asking the question of anyone sane who happens to be reading.

          • http://naver samurai

            Actually, I wasn’t going to say the democraps Jeffy. I would say that all evil and suffering in this world are caused by satan, lack of faith in God by this country, and human beings own ignorance and indifference. Thanks for asking though. FOR GOD AND COUNTRTY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “Being a Christian is a character which I prize for above all this worls has or can boast.”

            Patrick Henry

      • http://Angrymikeshood.blogspot.com angrymike

        Ppl like Jeff are payed shills from the left who try to ruin every argument of God or guns, you can tell from his posting and reposting, just think about it and ignore the fool……….

      • Gordon

        Well JEFF, you and your associates will never be able to make a case that the “great social experiment of the 60′s, which has come to fruition”, is a social success. If you were born before 1950 and experienced what a great society the United States of America was before the progressive liberal dope smoking fornicating theiving hippies destroyed our entire way of life….. oh never mind. If you opened your mind your brain would fall out.

        • BR549

          Gordon wrote to Jeff: “If you opened your mind your brain would fall out.”

          As I read this, I envisioned a BB in a boxcar.

          All humor aside, Jeff sounds like an intelligent individual, and well informed as far as those people go. The problem that I see is that he has yet to connect those few necessary dots, enough where that magic lightbulb comes on.

          My brother is a near genius but spends all his time reading history and philosophy. We’d start discussing politics from time to time, or guns, or the economy, and he could cite chapter and verse about siht you and I had long since forgotten in US history class. He had the same problem as Jeff and a few others. They just hadn’t yet been able to connect those last few dots, and who knows, maybe that’s why they’re hanging around here; to put those last pieces of the argument in place so they can move forward, …….. cuz one thing is for sure, the future doesn’t look so pretty.

          Perhaps they haven’t seen the UN’s Agenda21 Biodiversity Map and understand what it REALLY means. Hopefully, somewhere along this path, they’ll be able to put the pieces together. A lot of people are out loading up on guns and ammo since Newtown: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/gun-sales-surge-after-connecticut-massacre/
          and one can only hope that these people have the composure to find out who the bad guys are before they start pulling the trigger.

          I look at the hostility on this site and this is NOTHING compared to that being exhibited on other sites. People are getting frustrated because they see their standard of living shrinking before their eyes and there is no clear target for them to focus on, not necessarily with a gun, mind you. So, they take their hostilities out on each other, which is EXACTLY what the elites had expected the population to do. First, they [elites] start tampering with our common philosophy and our educational system. They take God out of the schools, ban American flags on your jackets in California, gradually dumb down the population over the last 40 years so that the sheep have no concept of what they might have needed to fight for, and then pit us all against each other. What a plan. Brilliant.

          Meanwhile, those inbred, hemaphiliac, parasitic misanthropes preach to us about carbon footprints, while they are gallivanting around the planet in their jets to attend the next cocktail party to discuss where the next war will be.

          Many of us here may have our differences in how we approach this problem that has been PUSHED on us, but we have to stay focused on where the problem really comes from ……. and it isn’t petty differences of opinion.

          My two cents.

        • Walter77777

          Gordon: I was born in 1939, and I know what an inhospitable country USA was to those who failed to fit in. I didn’t fit in in my grammar and first high school school because my parents were poor, and the kids in my first high school were from a golden ghetto (rich Jewish neighborhood) , and my life from age five to age sixteen was miserable.

          In 1955 my family moved from the north side of Chicago to the South Side at the end of the school year, and I went to summer school so that I might graduate six months early, but the school authorities sent me to the wrong summer school, and I was the only non-Hispanic White kid at the school.

          It was wonderful. I went from being an average student to being the go-to guy for any problems in the history or intermediate algebra classes I took, and I had a wonderful time.

          The 1950s and before were truly hellish for those who did not fit in. Gays had to hide their sexual orientation. Blacks were frozen out of many fields of endeavor. Persons could not live where they chose to live because of their race, ethnicity, or religion. If you were a heterosexual white Anglo-Saxon Protestant life certainly was good, but the miseries of so many others was hidden from view.

          w.

      • Gordon

        NANCY, you have fallen into that progressive liberal BS semantics machine and come out lacking understanding.

        Nancy, the United States of America was founded on the “freedom OF religion” not the freedom FROM religion. The founding belief that Jesus Christ IS GOD, that THE CREATOR exists, and all citizens are able to worship THE GOD in any way that they choose, without any mandated governmental religion….. which atheism is today= our mandated governmental religion.

        As Christians, christians (small c), and diests today rebel against the govenment mandated atheism, so shall our citizens rebel against the registering, outlawing and confiscation of firearms and weapons.

        Wars were fought over “freedom of religion” and a war will be fought over the 2nd Amendment and our God given right to keep and bear arms, period.

        WHY GOOD PEOPLE NEED SEMIAUTOMATIC FIREARMS AND “HIGH CAPACITY” MAGAZINES … Part I
        http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/12/29/why-good-people-need-semiautomatic-firearms-and-high-capacity-magazines-part-i/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MassadAyoob+%28Massad+Ayoob%29

        • Jeff

          Gordon:

          Why does your religion depend so much on my participation in public religious practices? Atheism is not mandated, but Christianity would be if public schools still had prayer sessions that students had to either engage in or actively refrain from. That you can’t see the difference does not say a lot for your ability to reason. If atheism were mandated, your Church would be shuttered.

      • Gordon

        “All this for a damn flag.” Michelle Obama to her husband.

      • http://naver samurai

        Like I’ve told you before Jeffy, prayer in schools are not violating someone’s freedom of religion. If they have a prayer at school and you don’t want to pray, then don’t. Just be silent to show respect to those that want to pray. If you don’t want to pray to God, but to some other false god, then do so. We won’t stop you as long as you give Christians an equal chance to pray. You 5th columners believe in freedom of religion for everyone, except Christians. Why? Because we know your beliefs are full of lies, rhetoric, innuendo,
        and hate for anything Christian. For example, like the lie you always post about separation of church and state. There is not such thing mentioned in the Constitution, nor are the words separation, church, or state mentioned in the 1st Amendment, nor is it written to keep religion out of the government or politics, but this God-given right was written in the 1st Amendment to keep government from taking this right away from the people. Also, to keep government from getting too big and oppressive, but it also protects religion from the control of government, not religion controlling government. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound! Here is something that shows how the government is violating religious freedom in this country:

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/8757/what-hobby-lobby-should-do-when-fined-1-3-million-per-day/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy out.

        “There are three points of doctrine which forms the foundation of all morality…the existence of God…the immorality of the human soul; and…a future state of rewards and punishments. Suppose it possible for a man to disbelieve any of these three articles of faith..that man will have no conscience.”

        John Quincy Adams

        • Jeff

          What’s stopping anyone from praying on his own? Why is it necessary for the Christians to single out the non-Christians as “different” during teacher-led, organized prayer? So, can a non-Christian be a teacher? Why do we even need to have this conversation? Non-establishment of religion doesn’t just mean not choosing between the Methodists and the Episcopalians; it means no “establishment” of Christianity as the school’s “chosen” religion either.

          • sam1966

            Not counting religious schools, our schools can have prayers in them. I remember having a prayer at the flag pole, don’t you? Why are we having this conversation? Because you are a misguided fool and it is my duty as a historian, history teacher, Christian, and patriot to instruct you on where you have made mistakes and to have you correct them. You say no religion in schools?

            “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the benefit of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.”

            The Northwest Ordinance
            April 07, 1789

            *Looks like they already have. Washington himself signed this into law. Ooops! I think that Jeffy just learned something.

          • Walter77777

            Sam: In the 1940s the grammar school in Chicago I went to was about 75% Jewish, but it was near a College run by the Mission Covenant Church, and some of the parents-faculty members whose kids went our school agitated to have the school mandate that the school day begin with the “Our Father”, and singing, Jesus Loves Me, after the Pledge of Allegiance and the singing of The National Anthem.

            Christians love to stuff their beliefs and superstitions down the throats of non-Christians.

            W.

          • Jeff

            No, we said the Pledge of Allegiance every morning but no prayers. And, as you should know being a yourstory teacher, “under God” wasn’t added to the Pledge until the 50s. So, was everyone who went to school before the 50s defective because their pledge was only to the flag, without acknowledging God? Quelle horreur!

          • Robert Wilson

            Who cares of the past, it is the present that we should consider. The dates/time element do not matter as long as we revamp the situation here and NOW! LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY.

          • Walter77777

            Oy vay iz mir! You make me remember what happened to my brother at his grammar school.

            My family lived at the edge of Woodlawn, a very large Black ghetto, and my parents in their white liberalism sent my brother to an almost all-Black school where the teacher started the day with the pledge of allegiance, the “Our Father”, and the song, Jesus Loves Me. My parents were not able to get through to the teacher that USA is a highly diverse country where Jews have a right to be insulated from Christian attempts at proselytizing.

            W.

          • sam1966

            It was the nornal thing to do in the classrooms then and they were not proselitizing (sp). My students say the Pledge of Allegience every day at our school, so why would you be offended at that? If you are a Jew, then you should have no problems saying “under God”, for the Christians and the Jews worship the same God. Now you say you came from an area the was mostly black (The race card has been played.) area and your parents sent your brother to a predominantly black school. You say again about what they said at the start of the day, but since when did the teachers and the school change from predominantly caucasian to being black? Getting your races mixed up, hmmm? Haven’t made that popping sound yet? Since you are Jewish, maybe this may interest you?

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-has-never-been-a-friend-to-israel-and-never-will-be/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “When the people rise in masses in behalf of the Union and the liberties of their country, truly may it be said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against them.”

            Abraham Lincoln

          • Walter77777

            Sam: I read the link, and Obama is a friend of Israel, but he doesn’t like Bibi Netanyahu any more than I do. Bibi is a war hero, but he is also a very rigid guy who cannot make compromises.

            Israel should not have or want a Yes Man as President of USA. For our President to have a knee-jerk reaction which says that anything Israel does is OK causes us to lose all credibility with the Arabs, and this is highly undesirable.

            W.

          • sam1966

            If he is a friend of Israel, then why does he always side with the Arabs and has distanced us away from Israel? He is even supported by enemies of Israel, like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. This does not sound like a friend to Israel. Could this be because his “mother” was a communist, who do not like Israel, and his “father” being a Muslim, who do not like Israel or Jews? Here is an example of him arming the enemies of both Israel and America.

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-armed-libyan-rebels-that-murdered-u-s-troops/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “…that all nations may bow to the septer of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and that the whole earth may be filled with his glory.”

            John Hancock

        • Walter77777

          Samurai: Why must there be Christian prayers? Why should there not be Hindu prayers? Why should not the day be started off in school reciting the Al-Fatihah, the prayer which is the first Surah of the Quran?

          I can imagine you might be upset if the teacher had students pray to Vishnu, Krishna, Shiva, Durga, The Great Spirit, Odin, Frig, Thor, Mount Kilimanjaro, holy to some of Pres. Obama’s ancestors, or whatever else some people revere or worship. I certainly would be upset if non-Jewish kids were exposed to or encouraged to recite Jewish prayers since I am Jewish, and this is absolute anathema to Jews.

          Tolerance is best served by leaving religion out of school. USA is a far more diverse country than it was when the Constitution was written.

          W.

          • sam1966

            It may be more diverse than in 1787, but our founding principles and the vision that our Christian founding fathers had for this country are still in place today. Just because the percentages of a certain population change is not reason to disavow everything this country was based on. We were founded a Christian nation, on Christian beliefs, and we still are today. Like I said before, if a student wants to pray before they eat lunch or want to read the Bible, let them. To tell them no is violating their God-given right of freedom of religion. If a student wants to pray to a false god or read their books before they eat lunch, so be it. Let them do it. The problem here is that you and your 5th column ilk are telling Christians they can’t do these things i9n schools, but others can. Sorry boy, but our country believes in freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. You say leave it in the church? What are you, some stupid atheist or something?

            “I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”

            George H. W. Bush

            If a president feels that way, then how to you think the average American feels? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. To ignore the spiritual interconnectedness of the extistence of this country and life are just plain ignorant and delusional. Atheists have SIGNIFICANTLY more lifetime suicide attempts, more relatives who commit suicide, are younger, less often married, less often have children, and have less contact with family members. Atheists percieve fewer reasons for living, are more impulsive, agressive, and abuse alcohol and drugs on a greater scale. This sounds like you Walter, if that is your name. We Christians are the opposite of what I typed about your ilk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “The Americans were the first people whom Heaven has favored with an opportunity of deliberating upon and choosing the forms of government under which they should live.”

            John Jay

      • http://naver samurai

        Here are Walter and Jeffy shoving their atheist and proturd beliefs down our throats. Walter, did you ever think you didn’t fit in because you couldn’t make the grade in your first school.? Then you liked your second school because you became “the man”, well big whooooopty do. You went from a great school to a bad school and you liked the bad school more? Such is the ways of people who don’t try to earn anything. Jeff, would you like some cheese to go with that whine? Show me where we Christians are forcing our beliefs on anyone. We are not the ones that if we see a Christian symbol or a cross on a town sign, go running before some libturd judge and cry the lie separation of church and state. You both neeeeed to be making that popping sound.

        “Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peacably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

        U.S. Constitution
        1st Amendment

        I don’t see anything that says separation of church and state. Looks like you 2 neeeeed to study the Constitution a lot more than you have. Here is something from a fellow libturd about our Constitution:

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/01/constitutional-law-professor-get-rid-of-the-constitution/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “So help me God.”

        George Washington

        • Walter77777

          I made the grade at my first school, but I didn’t fit in because I was an individual who didn’t like the atmosphere of my school, and my family certainly didn’t fit in living in a school district where the high school was dominated by kids from very well-to-do homes, and I came from a family of Jews-without-money.

          At the almost all-Black summer school I attended in summer 1955 it was as if so many strictures fell away. I remember that summer fondly.

          w.

          • sam1966

            Social status doesn’t matter to me. You not entitled to anything you don’t earn. This would count fitting in. Making friends with other students would be a good way to start. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            http://www.townhall.com/columnists/douggiles/2012/11/25/psalm_666_the_state_is_my_shepherd_i_shall_not_want

            This is what you ilk wants to do to this country. Not as long as there are patriots alive to stop it.

            “A patriot must be a religious man.”

            Thomas Jefferson

          • Walter77777

            Sam: Thomas Jefferson? The guy who had an affair with one of his slaves and knocked her up. This is not really a guy who can give moral guidance to us!

            W.

          • BR549

            Walter wrote: “Thomas Jefferson? The guy who had an affair with one of his slaves and knocked her up. This is not really a guy who can give moral guidance to us!”

            This seems to be the most up to date reference on that topic:
            http://www.monticello.org/site/plantation-and-slavery/thomas-jefferson-and-sally-hemings-brief-account

          • Robert Wilson

            To; BR549; Hillbilly persons are good country people, but the police seem not to care. Some are militaristic and need some finishing school, ever meet someone who never should be in contact with the public? Sounds like you have.

      • sam1966

        Sorry Walter, but there is no proof that Jefferson had children by Sally Hemmings. He loved his wife very dearly and had not affairs. If we used DNA evidence to show if he had children by her, Jefferson would be found not guilty. Here is something calling your “messiah” Obama bin Laden a felon:

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/whos-the-real-felon-mr-obama/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Sensible of the importance of Christian piety and virtue to the order and happiness of a state. I cannot but earnestly commend to you every measure for their support and encouragement.”

        John Hancock

        • Jeff

          I know as a hard-nosed faque historian you are skeptical of all evidence that is not published in the National Enquirer, but there’s much more than a suspicion about Jefferson and Sally Hemings.

          “The historical question of whether Jefferson was the father of her children has been known as the Jefferson-Hemings controversy. Following renewed historic analysis and a 1998 DNA study that found a match between the Jefferson male line and a descendant of her last son, Eston Hemings, a consensus among historians supports that the widower Jefferson fathered her son Eston Hemings and likely all her children.”

          In addition, Jefferson freed each of the Hemings children as they came of age. I don’t believe that was the case for the others. As for your faque photo of Obama, you really are pathetic. When the kids in your class laugh, they are laughing at you, not with you – especially the cute ones.

          • sam1966

            Care to cite a source on that or is this just another smoke screen? My source is The Jefferson Lies by David Barton, but what is yours? Actually, my kids seem to be smarter than you. This is reflected by how they have been state debate champions in history for the last 4 years running. They would laugh at you. Now, knock off the nonsense and try to be a MAN when you respond. Here is some good news:

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/03/shocking-time-magazine-cover-after-40-years-abortion-activists-losing/

            Another victory for God, patriots, and children. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. What’s wrong Jeffy? Did the big, bad Samurai put your little libturd mind back in its place? WWWWWhhhhhaaaaahhhhh!

            “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

            Ronald Reagan

            *Boy does that description fit you to a “T”!

          • Jeff

            Have your students ever seen your moronic posts? You are probably the most disrespectful, unchristianlike person I’ve ever come across. You have no ability to engage in rational discussion, you call people names you’ve picked up on a middle school playground, and you assert your idiotic opinions like they’re facts. I can’t help but believe I’ve been right about you all along. You came to your “Jesus” epiphany after kicking your other addictions.

            You rely on David Barton as an authority? That’s like taking Andrew Breitbart’s word for something. Barton is like you – a narrow-minded, right winger who pretends to be an historian whose “scholarship” would be laughed out of any university not named for a right wing preacher. Do your students a favor and let them read a book by a real historian.

            http://www.amazon.com/Hemingses-Monticello-American-Family/dp/0393337766

    • Dad

      Of course Obama has a message of jealousy and greed from fellow “Americans.” Is anyone really surprised?
      … thus the communist slogan: Forward

      • Walter77777

        Forward is not a Communist slogan. It was first used by the Jewish Social Democrats who founded the Forward newspaper which is now called The Jewish Forward in the English edition and is a surprisingly conservative newspaper.The Yiddish edition is far to the Left of the English edition making it a very different newspaper.

        W.

        • Jim Cooke

          Walter, thank you for fleshing out that little detail. But “Forward”, alone or part of a slogan, has been used so much in progressive/liberal/socialist/communist propaganda that any other use has been all but obscured. It is currently a clearly identified flag-word for expansive, over-controlling governments which press, suppress and compress their citizenry.

      • sam1966

        That may be Walter, but it was still used by the communists, such as Lenin. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The time has come that Christians must vote for honest men and take consistent ground in politics or the Lord will curse them. Christians have been exceedingly guilty in this matter. But the time has come when they must act differently. Christians seem to sct as if they thought God did not see what they do in politics. But I tell you He does see it – and He will bless or curse this nation according to the course they (Christians) take (in politics).”

        Rev. Charles Finney

      • Robert Wilson

        Part of B.O’s problem is that he seems a little confused with the issue of his identity. While it is true that he is half&half, his daddy’s side is showing more so than his mother’s. Therefore, he identifies with one, but questions his place in society with the other. He will “mandate” favorable packages of mish- mash Santa Clause laws to his “stronger” element.

      • sam1966

        Like the disarming of the people, shredding the Constitution, and installing sharia law onto the people. Here is something about what the libturds want for this country’s workforce:

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/01/10-states-set-to-boost-unemployment-and-keep-youth-out-of-labor-force/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

      • Robert Wilson

        Dear Dad; B.O. has done worse that that, he has not honored his OATH OF OFFICE.

    • Robert Wilson

      B is on target, Who in his right mind will shoot up a fully armed school?

      • Gordon

        Anyone with a weapon/firearm can not be in his right mind. Diane Feinstein

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    Bob Livingston,

    SIR, THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IN YOUR EXAMPLES IS, STRESS. YET, PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE TOLD, BY OTHERS, ABOUT WAYS OF MANAGING STRESS. TO TELL SOMEONE HE/SHE HAS AN ANGER-MANAGEMENT PROBLEM IS A TRILLION-TIMES WORSE THAN TELLING AN ALCOHOLIC TO ATTEND AN “A-A Meeting.”

    Mr. Livingston, SOMETHING ELSE HAS CHANGED – THE DEFINITION OF, “Adult.” “BACK IN THE DAY,” YOUNG ADULTS VALUED INPUT FROM OLDER- AND MORE MATURE ADULTS. IN OUR CONTEMPORARY TIME “Adult” MEANS, “I am grown and I can do what I damn-well please.” IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, WHEN AN EARLY-TEENAGE GIRL BECOMES PREGNANT, SHE AND THE EARLY-TEENAGE FATHER ARE CONSIDERED ADULTS BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS NO LONGER KNOW HOW TO TREAT THEM AS CHILDREN. SO, Mr. Livingston – IN REFERENCE TO YOUR EXAMPLES – I GUARANTEE, MANY OF THOSE ADULTS WERE TREATED AS “ADULTS” LONG BEFORE REACHING THEIR EIGHTEENTH BIRTHDAY; YET, THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ACCOMPANYING MATURITY.

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      Chris….. you are missing one key element when it comes to irresponsible procreation and that is that our welfare system embraces this new dysfunctional family and rewards it with the hard earned money of those who are responsible and work…

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “teddy maher,”

        YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY COMMENTS. I AGREE WITH YOU IN REFERENCE TO WELFARE AND IRRESPONSIBILITY.

        SINCE Bob Livingston GAVE SEVERAL EXAMPLES, I DEALT SPECIFICALLY WITH WHY THOSE PEOPLE WERE ANGRY.

      • Kate8

        People may be angry, CHRISTOPHER, but it’s all by design. We are, once again, sheep being led to the slaughter, step by step.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/media/2012/10/stunning-video-of-obama-and-medias-us-plan-think-carefully-while-listening-2447338.html

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        AS A-L-W-A-Y-S, MA’AM, IT IS GREAT HEARING FROM YOU!

        “Kate8″ – I HOPE YOUR DAY OF YULE WAS FANTASTIC. I HOPE 2013 WILL BRING IMMENSE JOYS BEYOND YOUR WILDEST DREAMS.

        THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY.

        BEST WISHES,
        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM – YOU, TOO – DID NOT UNDERSTAND MY RESPONSE TO Bob Livingston. I WAS NOT TRYING TO DEAL WITH SOME “NEW WORLD ORDER.” Mr. Livingston WAS TYPING ABOUT PEOPLE BEING “PISSED-OFF,” BECAUSE OF AN UNWANTED PIECE OF CHEESE ON A BURGER!

        IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, I SEE blacks “GOING-OFF” EVERY DAY BECAUSE SOMEONE MERELY LOOKED AT THEM, “FUNNY.”

        HENCE, MY COMMENTS TO Mr. Livingston.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, I REMOVED MY Adobe Flash Player FROM MY COMPUTER. [The "pop-ups" were "driving me crazy!" I no longer have patience for distractions.]. SO “Kate8,” MA’AM, I COULD NOT VIEW YOUR VIDEO LINK.

      • sam1966

        You are right Kate 8, fellow patriot. Sook Young and I hope you, Ted, and Chris had a great Christmas. Kate 8, here is a clip about how Obama bin Laden signed into law the detention of Americans by the military.

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/indefinate-military-detention-of-us-citizens-to-be-signed-into-law-by-obama/

        I know many NCOs that will disobey any order to detain someone in this manner. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one dissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

        John Quincy Adams

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        HAPPY HOLIDAYS – “sam1966″

      • Kate8

        That’s too bad, CHRISTOPHER, because it is of an ex-communist agent telling of how they had planned to bring down America, and it clearly shows how successful they’ve been.

        Agitators have been working in every level of life in America for over half a century, sowing seeds of dissatisfaction, resentment, and feelings of inequality among all factions of the population. They’ve created a mentality of unfairness and entitlement, which, of course, can never be enough no matter how much people are given of the fruits of the labor of others. It is all a part of demoralization and destabilization, which has been accomplished.

        This mentality of hostility toward our fellow man is included in this scenario. People for some reason think it’s cool to be rude and nasty to others, especially when they aren’t “satisfied” in a consumer situation.

        I have found that by being warm and courteous to others, even when I’m calling to inform them of dissatisfaction about something on my part, results not only in my issues being quickly resolved, but a very rewarding and uplifting experience all the way around. There is simply no reason to ever be unpleasant to others, even when they might be unpleasant. There is nothing like being patient and sympathetic to diffuse an angry person in the moment.

        If people in the “negro community” are consumed by anger and hostility, it has been bred into them by these pervasive tactics for a purpose. However, it is definitely not limited to the negro. I’d say that the majority of Americans are angry.

        We really must always remember that the collective consciousness is only a reflection of the state of consciousness that exists within the hearts and minds of each individual. Unless we become a part of the solution, we are a part of the problem. Each time one of us overcomes the state of inner conflict, we have a positive impact on the whole. It is only by healing ourselves that we bring light and healing to our world.

      • sam1966

        Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also Chris and Kate 8. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “In all my perplexities and distresses the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength.”

        Robert E. Lee

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        ANGER WILL ALWAYS RESIDE IN PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THE CURRENT POLITICAL SITUATION.

        ALTHOUGH BEING COURTEOUS IN PUBLIC TO OTHERS IS A “GOOD THING,” COURTEOUS PEOPLE SEEM TO BE “TAKEN-ABACK” WHEN THEY DO NOT RECEIVE A COURTEOUS RESPONSE. EACH MORNING, PEOPLE WALK OUT OF THEIR FRONT DOORS IN AN ANGRY MOOD BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT HANDLE THE STRESS IN THEIR LIVES. BECAUSE OF MONEY AND ITS ALLEGED SECURITY, PEOPLE REMAIN IN MARRIAGES THEY NO LONGER WANT. IN ADDITION, BECAUSE OF THE FEAR OF CRIMINAL PROSECUTION FOR CHILD ABUSE, MANY PARENTS FEEL FORCED TO LIVE WITH STRESSES CAUSED BY THE UPKEEP OF CHILDREN. SO, YELLING AT A “FAST-FOOD” EMPLOYEE FOR PLACING CHEESE ON A BURGER IS A LOGICAL OUTCOME.

        “Kate8,” MA’AM, THIS IS A REASON WHY I HATE – IN REFERENCE TO THE “DATING SCENE” – HEARING PEOPLE SAY, “I like ‘so-and-so’ because he/she has a sense of humor.” ONE OF THE REASONS WHY FEMALES IN DOMESTIC-VIOLENCE SITUATIONS OFTEN SAY, “I did not know he had a temper,” IS BECAUSE THAT FEMALE NEVER SAW THAT MALE IN AN ANGRY STATE AND NEVER CONSIDERED HIS “GENTLEMAN-NESS” TO BE AN “ACT.” BEFORE COMMITTMENT, ALL DATING COUPLES MUST SEE THE TOTAL GAMUT OF EMOTIONS IN EACH OTHER – HAPPINESS, SADNESS AND ANGER.

        Bob Livingston’s ARTICLE IS ABOUT THESE EMOTIONS.

      • Gordon

        I think a lot of you folks are missing the point.
        Generally speaking, most people do NOT want to make babies, they just want to……….
        Babies are an unwanted consequence of sexual pleasure.

        Thus our nation has stooped to irresponsibility becoming a women’s rights to kill babies, and for free government money as a reward for NOT killing them.

        What’s the government gonna do, let the helpless little critters starve to death because their parents are irresponsible pieces of ………?

        The government will feed them, raise them, school them in socialism and athieism, and perpetuate the only lifestyle these people have ever known= victimism.

      • Gordon

        CAH= “LIfe is tough. It’s even tougher if you’re stupid.”

        Grab your arse with both hands and grow up. Learn to do something besides bitch and type.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Gordon” [11:34 AM] – YOU ARE ON POINT!

      • Gordon

        CAH. I am glad you seem to have made the distiction that I implied regarding that first part comment directed to coincide with yours, and the second part that I failed to distinguish as not directed directly to you. Most humble appologies to all.G

      • Robert Wilson

        To Teddy maher; I have a relative that does his Christian duty each, and every summer. He drives a van load of helpers to New Orleans to clean up the SAME neighborhood.

    • Charlie Tall

      Stress my ass!
      In 1960 an unmarried, pregnant high school girl was expected to quit school, have her baby, and maybe then return. She was not allowed to hang around setting a lousy example for every other girl in school. That might have caused her a little stress, but that’s not the case anymore.
      Now, your unmarried, pregnant tenth-grader gets to sit in class with the other kids, tell them about her sex life, describe all the many ways they, too, can qualify for a government handout, and as a finale have her water break in remedial math class. Where’s the stress there?
      In the US last year, 78% of black births were to unmarried mothers. That sounds like they get stressed only if they don’t get knocked-up.

      • Chuck B

        thank you Charlie :-)

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Charlie Tall” AND “Chuck B,”

        BOTH OF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY COMMENTS.

        IF A THIRTEEN-YEAR OLD NEGRO GIRL BECOMES PREGNANT, IN THE EYES OF HER PARENTS, SHE MAY AS WELL BE TWENTY-FIVE. HER PARENTS WILL NO LONGER REQUIRE HER TO OBEY THEIR COMMANDS BECAUSE NEGROES BELIEVE IT IS VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT BABY TO KNOW HER/HIS MOTHER IS THE AUTHORITY FIGURE IN HER/HIS LIFE.

        THIS IS THE WAY THE SITUATION IS HANDLED IN RURAL MISSISSIPPI. URBAN AREAS MAY DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

        Mr. Tall;
        You neglected to mention the aspect of shame. Shame on the part of the young girl who did what she knew was wrong and out of a sense of shame wouldn’t show her face in public in that condition. With the advent of the 60′s, these basic moralities that Mr. Livingston has elucidated in his article, were sneakily done away with and replaced with narscisism, nihilism and moral relativism. Penetration and permeation of the socislist/communist ideology of Fabian Socialism and all it’s attendant degeneracies and deviant behaviours, which has had the intent and effect of breaking down the family structure, which had the side effect of destroying moral agency. People are not only not ashamed of their bad behaviours now, they are proud of it and push it in your face every chance they get. The worst thing about the immoral programmed robots who populate the West today is not that they don’t ever question their behaviour and attitudes,it’s that they don’t even see a need to question it!

        • Jeff

          I don’t know why you guys keep equating increased individualism, or hedonism, with socialism. The real socialists/communists (i.e. the Soviets) were much tougher on personal expression, whether through art or unorthodox personal behavior, than the West ever was. The fact that we have some degree of freedom of expression coupled with a very porous social safety net (compared to most advanced countries) could just be happenstance. Certainly, national character plays a role. The French have a reputation for being more lax concerning traditional morals (e.g. sex, nudity) than the Germans or the Japanese, but does that explain anything concerning their economic systems?

      • sam1966

        Individualism my backside Jeffy. A woman is not to commit fornication with anyone. She is to wait till marriage, then have sex the first time, then get pregnant, no other ways allowed according to God and the Bible. I don’t feel sorry for someone like that at all. It was her choice, her child, her responsibility. She also must accept the repercussions of her actions. There are no pregnant students in my school, but if there are in the future, our school already has written protocol on how to deal with them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The minute you turn the document (Constitution) into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundations of our society.”

        Rev. Pat Roberston
        December 30, 1991

      • Gordon

        Dan M……. shame? How dare you. You might damage their fragile psychi and warp their sense of self worth.

      • Robert Wilson

        To Charlie Tall; The little darlins must spread the dirt some how.

    • gary meddles

      Maybe you shouldn’t have the perks of adulthood until you are supporting yourself, like voting, buying alcohol, signing contracts, getting credit cards. Parents are today’s problem they are more concerned with being cool to kids, being their buddies, if you raise wild animal, don’t be surprised when they grow up to be animals, notice I didn’t call them adults. We have shows now that glorify bad behavior, bridzillas, 16 and pregnant and so on.

      • Dulceb

        You are so right. When you can pay your own way to do adult things, then you should be considered an adult. You should run your own home if you want to have relations. You should pay for your own car and its expenses if you want to go as you please.
        That is what my Mom and Dad told me when I wanted to do things they did not want to approve.
        Kids are enabled by their doting parents. Then when the kids are an adult burden, the parents complain.
        Why, you made the monster.
        Our lack of community and home education has taken its toll on society.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “gary meddles,”

        IN REFERENCE TO PARENTS IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, WHEN A CHILD BECOMES EIGHTEEN, THE PARENTS’ JOB IS OVER.

        “Mr. meddles,” YOU TYPED [sic], “PARENTS SHOULD NOT BE “COOL” WITH THEIR KIDS.” CAUCASIANS AND NEGROES HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK WHEN IT COMES TO THE ROLE OF GRANDPARENTS.

        A NEGRO GRANDMOTHER WILL TELL HER DAUGHTER, “I’m not gonna shake your baby. I shook you, that was enough. So, you’re gonna have to shake your own baby or find someone else to do it.” [This is why Negroes need government-sponsored day-care; grandparents will not "baby-sit"]. WHEN THEIR CHILDREN LEAVE THE HOUSE, NEGRO GRANDPARENTS GET A SECOND CHANCE FOR AN ACTIVE SOCIAL LIFE – PARTIES, CASINOS, ETC.

        SO, “Mr. meddles,” NEGRO PARENTS ARE NOT TRYING TO BE “COOL” WITH THIRTEEN-YEAR-OLD- AND PREGNANT DAUGHTERS; THEY MERELY WANT THEM TO “LIE IN THE BED THEY MADE – NO MATTER HOW HARD IT MAY BE.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “gary meddles” AND “Dulceb” – BOTH OF YOU MADE GREAT POINTS. I WAS COMMENTING FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

      • Gordon

        For all you Bible folks…….

        Did you ever notice that Adam had a steady job he tended daily, was well established in his career, and at peace with himself and who he was ……… BEFORE God gave him a woman?

        Just saying……..

      • Robert Wilson

        To; Gary meddles; From which church does the out-rage emanate to cover these atrocities?

    • Robert Wilson

      IT SURELY IS NICE TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME INTELLIGENT PERSONS OUT THERE THAT ARE FINALLY OUTRAGED!

  • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

    Bob ….. On the Brink ??? I don’t think so …. we are there…. you are witnessing the beginning….. every incident you cited occured in the presense of multiple numbers of people who cowarded and did nothing ….this is the society we have created it will not be long before our enemies will just put a fence around us…. and all this will happen while we are sitting on our asses watching the game….

    • Mike in MI

      teddy maher –
      Damned straight they’ll put a fence around us. I think most of the world is scared as hell that Americans might escape to other places…taking our socio-pathic mentalities along with.
      Watch California. All the “normal”, logical people are leaving. I’ve been looking towards something like this occurring for a long time. I wonder if, when the burden of evil becomes too great in Crazy Cally, will the San Andreas finally say, “Enough’s enough; this is too much dead weight.”, will it finally crack and slide all that human sludge into the Pacific? I mean, look at Biblical history: when the overburden of evil in an area becomes too great catastrophism, from one source or another, becomes inevitable.
      Oh, but I’m terrible to say such a thing about that “wonderful” place and all those poor people. Hey, they’ve been making their choices for a long time. God’s laws wait for no man’s “feelings”. He warns those who have ears to hear and tries to gives His general warnings to everybody else. If they are blind, deaf and dumb to all of it…well, sometimes life sucks for the unwise.
      Watch the animals. He takes care of them to see they get to the high ground. They hear and heed the warnings. Why are some people so dis-attuned and hardened against God’s ways and doings? Abnormal and un-natural attentions and intentions?
      Some of you out there like to say, “How could a loving God allow such human pain, loss and sorrow? Your God is evil as evil gets because he allows such pain, death and sorrow.”
      NAH,NAh. naho, no. He always tries to warn those who work withing His design of life and the ones who decide to follow His instruction(s) survive. It’s a lifestyle thing.

      • Jeff

        I hope you find a larger platform because many swing voters who may not know what they believe politically will hear you and say, “I don’t know anything, but I know I disagree with that [expletive deleted]

      • Gordon

        Jeffy;

        “He who has ears to hear, let him hear.”

        To others:

        Jesus said in red letters in Matt 24, that those who did not have ears to hear were taken away (killed) by the flood, and a few stayed to ride out the storm and replenish the earth.

        Jesus also said……. “Pray that your flight not be in winter”

    • Robert Wilson

      When reading most of these postings,this leads me to believe that NO, we will NOT be sitting on our back sides, but instead, let these opinions be absorbed by our intelligent representatives, (not the ones that think with their hind-quarters.) You know, the ones that did spend us into oblivion.

  • T. Jefferson

    These traits are not lost on white non hip hop Americans. They also are not lost on traditional hispanic families, black families, asian families and native American families.

    These traits only seem to be lost on the hip hop crowd. The gang banging crowd and the race baiting crowd. Those who call themselves “liberal progressives” socialists, marxists and communists.

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      In your politically correct desotation you would like to blame every body for the anti social behavior of the few…. The hip hop crowd has propencity to glamourize violence and in more than one occasion have acted out their lyrics on public streets with drive by shootings and out and out murder….. these are not the actions of a civilized society…

      • Gordon

        Civilized society?

        Where do you think we live? 1955?

      • Robert Wilson

        So true! The “hippity hop culture? The hippity hops of this world do not DESERVE the word “culture”. Nor can you call their NOISE music.

        • Jeff

          Nothing decent since Bing Crosby, right? Elvis was a Commie, the Beatles were radicals . . . How old are you anyway?

          • http://naver samurai

            Elvis was no communist, but Lady Gaga is a satanist. Here is a sign showing that states are starting to turn from unplanned parenthood to the rights of the child, as it should be.

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/02/2012-second-highest-number-of-pro-life-laws-passed-on-abortion/

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 ㅇ위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy out.

            “That all men have a natural and unalienable right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.”

            Article 19
            Noth Carolina State Constitution
            1776

          • Jeff

            So how much detention or time in Hell (defined as face time with you) does a kid at your school get for having Lady Gaga on his or her ipod?

          • sam1966

            Sorry dude, but if she is on their MP3s or iPods, I wouldn’t know. We don’t look at their iPods or MP3s to see who is on there. Also, since they cannot listen to them in the school, it would be impossible to tell what they listen to. My undisputed fact still stands that she is a satanist. Care to cite a source showing she isn’t, hmmm? Here is something dealing with the 5th column camp:

            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/01/01/fresh-from-fiscal-cliff-standoff-obama-demands-another-tax-increase-for-2013/

            Sheesh! Can’t you 5th columners and your “messiah” stop the usual tax and spend crap? Let’s see how your finances look ones $1 trillion dollars in taxes, due to Obama bin Laden Care, starts hitting your paycheck. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

            “I________, do profess faith in God the Father, and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, One God, blessed for evermore; and I do acknowledge the Holy Scriptures of the Old Testiment and New Testiment to be given by Divine Inspiration.”

            Article 22
            Delaware State Constitution
            1776

          • Jeff

            And just how many angels CAN dance on the head of a pin?

          • sam1966

            That is irrelevent. I do have a question for you that I will ask my students on their midterms. Where do they make a reference to God in the Constitution? They may not mention God’s name, but they do make a reference to Him. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “I desire to bless and praise the name of God most high for appointing me my birth in a land of Gospel Light where the glorious tidings of a Savior and of pardon and salvation through Him have been continually sounding in mine ears.”

            Robert Treat Paine

          • Jeff

            This is quite a school where you teach. Creationism instead of biology I assume? Your patron saint is Paul Broun? If a student graduates actually knowing something besides superstition, do you consider you failed him? Is Phyllis Schlafly a guest lecturer? How about Sarah Palin?

          • Jeff

            “That all men have a natural and unalienable right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences.”

            Article 19
            Noth Carolina State Constitution
            1776

            I believe that would be the case in every state. Notice that even in 1776 in North Carolina no mention was made of Christianity. But your right to “worship” or swing your sword have nothing to do with forcing non-Christians in a public school or courthouse to either participate in a Christian prayer or affirmatively abstain. I’m sure you choose to not understand the difference, but the average 3rd grader would (unless he has the misfortune to have you as a teacher).

            You can call me every name your tiny brain can conjure, but the fact remains you are simply WRONG.

          • sam1966

            Care to cite a source showing I’m wrong, or are you going to remain a coward and hide behind your computer screen? If it says “ALMIGHTY GOD”, then it would be logical to assume that He is the God that Christians worship. You are still wrong as this nation is still a Christian, not secular, nation. I guess you can post all the lies, rhetoric, and innuendo you want, but it will never change the fact of you being consistantly wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “Any person chosen governor, lieutenant governor, councillor, senator, or representative, and accepting the trust, shall, before he proceed to execute the duties of his place or office, make and subscribe the following declaration, viz:

            ‘I __________, do declare that I believe the Christian religion…’”

            Chapter 6, Article 1
            Massachusetts State Constitution
            1780

            *Just can’t prove yourself to be correct, can you Jeffy?

          • Jeff

            Do you think the 1780 oath is still good law? Why not? How can a Christian or a teacher be such a wise-ass and such an idiot? Our Constitution (the one you revere when it supports your point of view) says no religious tests for office holders. Does that mean only no multiple choice tests? Obviously (to anyone with a functioning brain) it means you can’t exclude someone from political office because he follows the wrong (or no) religion. Two plus two equals four regardless how you feel about it.

          • sam1966

            That’s for the fed, but not the states. Look up the state constitutions like I have and have your dense libturd mind awakened. A religious test is one where they may test your knowledge of the Bible, but you can still serve and be very religious. No separation of church and state. No such thing as morals and religion being separated from government. Read Washington’s Farewell Address and you’ll see what I’m saying. Since you didn’t answer my question, you have failed the test on American History. But alas! This is what I expected. Go and study the Constitution and answer my question, or you may have to stay after school. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

            “Were you to ask me to recommend the most valuable book in the world, I should fix on the Bible as the most instructive both to the wise and the ignorant.”

            Elias Boudinot

            *The ignorant part fits you well.

          • Jeff

            It doesn’t matter what’s in the State Constitution if it violates the Federal Constitution. Prior to 1961 (Mapp v. Ohio), a state could infringe freedom of speech, establish religion, etc. so long as its own Constitution didn’t prohibit it. In Mapp, the Supreme Court (pre-Scalito days) said that the 14th Amendment enforced the protections of the Bill of Rights against the states. Whose history are you teaching anyway?

          • Jeff

            “That’s for the fed, but not the states. Look up the state constitutions like I have and have your dense libturd mind awakened. A religious test is one where they may test your knowledge of the Bible, but you can still serve and be very religious.”

            Do you actually believe that’s the meaning of “religious test”? To say that’s a minority view would be a gross understatement. I think if a thousand educated people read that phrase, maybe 5 will read it like you do. Language has meaning. It doesn’t mean whatever the Hell you want it to mean. Again, your juvenile name-calling does not change the fact you are dead wrong.

          • BR549

            sam wrote: “If it says “ALMIGHTY GOD”, then it would be logical to assume that He is the God that Christians worship.”

            I noticed you included a reference to the State of Delaware including Jesus’ name. Correct me if I am wrong, here, but I don’t recall his name having been used at all in the Declaration or Constitution and I believe that was intentional, owing to the founders’ recognition of the various faiths within the country at the time.

            There PRIME concern was to have the people of the country, and especially the King of England, understand that the rights they were claiming were given to them by a power far higher than the one that had been previously taking them away. And it didn’t make any difference which path to the top of the mountain one chose to take, so long as each man realized he eventually had to take his individual journey.

      • sam1966

        Sorry BR549, but if you look at Article 7 of the Constitution, you will see it saying, “…in the year of the Lord…”, correct? In the year of the Lord refers to the time after the birth of Jesus. They say on the 17th day, the 9th month, in the year of our Lord, one thousand seven hundred, eighty seven, means the 17th day, 9th month, and 1787th year after the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. They also make a reference to a blesser in the Preamble of the Constitution. The blesser being referenced to is God. His name is also invoked 4 times in the Declaration of Independence and both of them being invoked in the Articles of Confederation. That’s right, all our founders were Christians, not deists and agnostics, like the 5th columners want you to believe. Thanks for the kind response and the info. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us.”

        John Hancock

  • OldChuck

    IMO the unending stupid in -your-face rants by NBA and NFL so-called “heroes” on TV and glorified by TV is a big part of the attitude problem in this country that’s behind the kind of rage mentioned here, plus “road rage”, plus the general nastiness that pervades our atmosphere. Where I live the common wisdom dictates that if someone honks at you, you ignore it, keep your head down and hope for the best. If you honk at somebody don’t be shocked if they pull a gun on you or follow you around like they are going to “get even” if you stop. It sucks – I hate to go out in public anymore because of that “attitude” – no wonder there are so many murders.

  • SarahR

    Mr. Livingston I value your input on this subject and other subjects in the past. I raised six devout Christians and responsible citizens of their communities. I never felt that I was doing anything out of the ordinary. I have tried, though, to push them into politics so that they could take an active part in bringing America back to the once great country that it was, but, alas, they will have none of it.

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      Sarah … you have done all that you could and our society so needs rightous people in government….. Be encouraged … It is Gods government that will replace this one and justice will be the order of the day… This system we are living under must run its course and remember, God is not trying to save this world … if he were … he just would…after all he is God Almighty…

    • sam1966

      True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”

      Abraham Lincoln

      • Gordon

        Spoken by our first commie president that suspended the US Constitution………. yahoo.

  • http://TheMiracleofSelfPower Iris D. Lynch

    Without fail, all of the stories told are about the times when INDIVIDUALS were comfortable in their own skin and knew that they owned themselves and their God-given SELF POWER. People have since been brainwashed into believing that they are POWERLESS and must beg the master (BO) for all of their needs. In frustration they lash out at whoever happens to be around. ‘Loss’ of self-power means that the individual has a mind set that someone else has their power and the only thing left to do is physical. This trend can be altered if people are educated to understand that they EACH own self power. We ALL have it! wwwthemiracleofselfpower.com !

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      Iris ….. Just a lot of pysco babel and bull [expletive deleted]…. SELFISHNESS,ME,ME,ME,I WANT,I HAVE A RIGHT and so no…. We have mistook Liberty(freedom) for License…Frustration translates to selfish …. actions translates to So Selfish that we are hostile…This is our world and we created it….

      • Walter77777

        The welfare system supports dysfunctional families, but before this we took babies from unwed mothers and while white babies were often quite adoptable black and interracial babies ended up in orphanages where conditions were Dickensian, and deeply wounded individuals were thrown out unto the streets at sixteen to eighteen to make their way as best they could.

        If we have a goal of inhibiting this we might have to loosen up our abortion laws and permit abortion on demand. We might also consider the racism inherent in the preferences of adopting families.

        W.

      • http://TheMiracleofSelfPower Iris D. Lynch

        SELF POWER means power over Self NOT OTHERS as is often the case! Get a dictionary!

      • sam1966

        Walter, wwwwwhhhhhaaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Walter out.

        “Without God there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first, the most basic, expression of Americanism.”

        Dwight D. Eisenhower

      • Gordon

        Walter= The governmental welfare system IS DESIGNED TO FAIL. That way next year’s budget will be larger and more people can be employed and more can be “non” helped……

        If the system worked, then the system would be eventually eliminated.

        think about it.

  • http://www.davidlerickson.com David

    ‘We live in a Nation in which God has been removed from schools, prayers are banned from public places’

    God has never been removed from schools. This is just another pseudo-conservative talking point with no substance. For those who fail to study history, it was the force-feeding of protestant beliefs that ended prayer and the display of religious symbols in schools. Individual prayer is still allowed as is group led prayer at the beginning of sports games, gov’t meetings,etc.

    ‘babies are slaughtered by the thousands on a daily basis’

    Another pseudo-conservative red herring. Abortion is considered murder by a very narrow, fundamentalist Christian percentage of the populace. Hence the term, slaughter. If you are of that mind-set – get a life.

    ‘Unemployment remains high and inflation is sapping the wealth of the elderly and savers.’

    True, but both are caused by corporate greed and a failed gov’t economic ideology. I assume the writer here is trying, in an indirect way, to blame the 47% Romney says is sucking the life out of our economy. It takes hundreds of thousands of good for nothing lazy people getting $12-16k a year from the gov’t to even begin to compare to the millions in thefts of medicare and medicaid by health care providers. And let us not forget that Congress refuses these agencies from negotiating for better prices.’

    ‘Politicians squabble over whether they are going to screw us out of a lot of money or a lot more while ginning up class envy and promoting hatred of one group over another simply on the basis of wealth.’

    Much of this mindset has been created by pseudo-conservative talk jocks who feed the flames of class envy by setting the rich up as our economic saviors (which is a lie) and fomenting anger and lemming-thought with loads of think-tank dreamed up sound bites, catch phrases and rhetoric that have no substance, but does give listeners their daily adrenaline (hate) fix.

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      David …. Since you have an affinity for the word pseudo may i refer to you as a pseudo intellectual,who holds beliefs but do not know why…. Abortion is a private personal matter and government has no business in it…. The science involved in determining the beginning of life is theoretical and flawed at best….The facts dictate that life begins at conception and this may come as shock to you but,,you and I were conceived and mom opted not to terminate(kill us) so here we are today….The social woes of this once blessed nation are the results of bad science,greed and selfishness or in other words the nature of who we are…. The conservative radio propaganda as well as the your ok and Iam Ok philosophy have taken its toll….. It is time we as a people assume responsibility for what we have become and make some fundamental changes in how we think…otherwise there will be nothing here for the kids…

    • Charlie Tall

      Wow, David, you’re sure good at spouting the liberal (which you’re not), progressive (not that either) jargon. Have you ever had an original thought?

      David wrote, “God has never been removed from schools.”

      So you’ve missed the examples of the Ten Commandments being stripped from schools, courthouses, and other public buildings?

      Our nation is a nation of Christians. It was build on Judeo-Christian ethics. If we, the People, want to pray in school, then it is our right and due to pray when and where we so wish.

      David wrote, “Abortion is considered murder by a very narrow, fundamentalist Christian percentage of the populace. Hence the term, slaughter. If you are of that mind-set – get a life.”

      Murder or not, David, killing babies is killing babies. Hence the term slaughter. But why are you playing semantic games? Because you don’t have the courage to meet the question head-on?

      Babies are being killed and fools like you try to justify these horrible, callous, inhumane acts by calling them a choice. Your way is the same way the Nazis took when they SLAUGHTERED millions of Jews, Gypsys, and homosexuals. Your way is the way the Stalinists took when they SLAUGHTERED millions of kulaks. Your way is the same path followed by the Chinese Communists when they SLAUGHTERED millions of the educated during the Cultural Revolution.

      Come on, brave guy, work up the courage to call a spade a spade. Babies are being slaughtered, and you and your ilk are justifying that with word games.

      David wrote, “…both are caused by corporate greed and a failed gov’t economic ideology”

      Corporate greed? David, how did you miss the principle that business is supposed to make a profit? Have you ever heard of competition? Do you know what you call a business that does not maximize its profit and improve its competitive position? Answer: bankrupt.

      Businesses play by the rules government makes. Think about that for awhile if you can.

      “Government economic ideology”? What the Hell is that? Did you mean socialist programs that do not work? Have not worked? Will never work? Did you mean government redistribution of wealth that destroys the producers and enriches the takers?

      Now as to your last paragraph. By “pseudo-conservative talk jocks” did you mean the Chicago politician who constantly uses the term “fair share” (undefined) and refuses to reduce spending?

      Listen, David, the man who chooses not to work for a living has no moral claim on the wealth of the man who does work. None. Just because we’ve passed these perverted laws providing the nonproductive with a comfortable, guaranteed income does not make it right.

      In fact, it is just plain dishonorable to live off your neighbor.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

        Thank you Mr. Tall, I couldn’t have put that better myself and certainly not as politely!
        Do you ever wonder at the total ridiculousness and illogic of people like that and their beliefs? How can they talk themselves into such convoluted circles to support such idiotic dogma? The complete lack of common sense, fact and reason they spew, and then to support it in demonizing labels for those that try to point out the HUGE, GAPING flaws in their reasoning…with so many out there just like this brain dead zombie, do you think the country stands a chance?

      • Pathfinder0100

        Well said CT well said!

    • Pathfinder0100

      David–David–Boy!! You are full of it!!

    • http://naver samurai

      OMG! Somebody quick, call an ambulance. We have to get this person to the OR for an emergency cranial retumotomy. He has a severe case of cranial rectal insertion. Here is something by Sam Donaldson saying that America isn’t ours anymore.

      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/sam-donaldson-says-america-is-no-longer-our-country/

      There is even a nice quote about God’s laws being in control of things and not our laws. This should wake up the 5th columners on this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan.”

      Proverbs 29:2

      “Proclaim liberty throughout the land and to all the inhabitants thereof.”

      Leviticus 25:10
      On the Liberty Bell

      “I will walk about in freedom, for I have sought out your precepts.”

      Psalms 119:45

      “Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”

      2 Corinthians 3:17

    • Gordon

      OK DAVID and you pro-abortionists.

      Go to barnhardt.biz and on the opening page, scroll down about 12-14 screens.

      There is a picture of a “fetus” with it’s skull sucked flat, decapitated, and one arm severed.

      LOOK carefully at that picture and tell me if that is a BABY.

      Any of you that cannot cry when you see that real picture, you are already dead and of no earthly value as human beings.

  • Cindy

    I blame a lot of this behavior on those stupid reality based shows, like the one about repo. They seem to pick the trashiest people and then glorify their awful behavior. While a lot of it is amusing, I think some people begin to think that this type of behavior is acceptable.

    • sam1966

      True that! True that! That is why Sook Young and I do not watch them. To glorify someones stupidity and to tell everyone that it is OK to be and act this way is just plain unamerican. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      Here is something funny for Christmas:

      http://www.conservativevideos.com/2012/12/obama-claus-is-coming-to-town/

      “The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”

      34th Congress, 1st Session, p. 354. January 23, 1856

    • Gordon

      It is called entertainment.
      It is the stupid inane trash that represents the new socialist society.

      IMO anyone who actually watches TV is grossly deceived by what that evil thing is doing to your very being.

      • Gordon

        and you won’t realize how bad it is for you UNTIL you have stopped watching TV for at least 2 years.
        TV is worse than chewing gum.

        • barbara

          I couldn’t agree more!! I got rid of my television in 1992. As I didn’t watch it that much to begin with, it wasn’t too hard to get used to being without it. (In fact, it was pretty easy). I feel so fortunate that I am not possessed by TV and all the more educated/informed of the truth because of that.

        • Robert Wilson

          This last few years will see history in print; “In the US, melting pot of the world, nothing is sacred.” Society as we have known it, is coming apart at the seams. We can look back at the music/noise to see the trends. The styles of women’s clothing tell us that HALLOWEEN IS NEVER OVER! Hardware in youth’s faces mean they must stay away from magnets, tattoos cover their ugly bodies to give the impression that they might of just been released from incarceration. FEEL-GOOD education leaves them with a diploma that would equal 6th grade graduation-1950. Bring the simple jobs from over seas and youth may have employment RW.

      • oh oh

        Buddies Israel Zangwill, Israel Cohen and George Bernard Shaw all thought that the “melting pot” idea was just the thing needed to transform America. With the irreversible demographic mess America’s gotten itself into, the idea of shared patriotic and national cultural values has been supplanted by multiculturalism, which naturally results in the destruction of the founding culture and, ultimately, a discordant, dysfunctional mess like the one we have now. This is a major reason why our Christian roots will be relegated to revisionist history and we will never again be that virtuous people envisioned and hoped for by John Adams and other founders. What a legacy.

        • http://naver samurai

          True that! True that! Multiculturalism never works. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          “They who are decrying the Christian religion are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”

          Charles Carroll

          • Walter77777

            Faith in G-d may not be needed to be a patriot. In WWII the Germans invaded Russia and Communist atheist Russians threw themselves at the German Panzers with utter disregard for the fact that hundreds of them might would die in order to disable or destroy one tank.
            If you do not call this patriotism what do you call it?

            W.

      • sam1966

        I’ll answer that question with a “no” or a “yes.” Why? Since Stalin was the ruler of the USSR at that time, tell me if the communists went against the Vermacht voluntarily or did Stalin threaten to send them, maybe even their families, to the gulags in Siberia if they didn’t? If it is the second case, then no they are not patriots, but pawns in the governments chess game. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “God rules in the armies of Heaven, and without His whole blessing, the best human councels are but foolishness.”

        John Hancock

  • deerinwater

    Bad behavior is not new but hundreds of competitive electronic news service that sells dirty Laundry and a 24 hour news cycle certainly is recent.

    People have been behaving badly since we got thrown out of the garden.

    Feed on this if you wish and react as you wish, but understand it is yourself that you should be in charge of. Fill your house with guns if you want too but please secure them so no one can use them against you or other innocent people.

    • Robert Wilson

      Your wisdom overwhelms me.

  • http://theconservativecrawfish.wordpress.com reelman1946

    MY DEC 15TH POST on a website…about where we are after shootings, etc….as a nation…

    The arrogant apostles of utopian secular socialism have a game plan…and its working very well…(in no order)…

    remove shame and respect,
    trash normal intact families and marriage,
    hassle Churches and mock those attending,
    dumb down education so as not to offend minorities (ignore reality for votes),
    portray kids and single women as incredibly wonderful but fathers as dimwit goobers,
    allow the very rare exception run the show,
    use class warfare for votes,
    pass Zero Tolerant Laws (fantasy/no trust laws) that are absurd as we see but change nothing,
    print/borrow $$$ to buy votes,
    constantly look for demons when your naturally toxic policies fail,
    make education so out of control that 20%+ of time is lost to discipline (failure/suspension/expulsion quotas of course),
    put quotas on many things (except sports) so even women (who cannot play college football) blab on about it (like a man going on about labor pains/childbirth),
    boldly lie knowing the pawn media will not fact check,
    cheapen life/socialize medicine,
    refuse to even do budgets (unconstitutional) so voters stay ignorant of your real values,
    make a lack of consequences for grossly immoral behavior the standard (glorify fornication/adultery),
    repeat political myths and ignore basic laws of economics,
    grow the gov-meant and thus union votes/cost,
    own the media (make them your echo chamber),
    insulate you and your select groups from the pain of toxic policies,
    use victim worship/dependency weekly as some sort of noble thing
    and so on and boldly lie lie lie.

    Yes, they are winning and all we have are pantywaist Republicans being out flanked daily/lied about/smeared and just in denial of the no boundaries thug nature of utopian socialists (worldwide). Gird your loins!
    (the conservativecrawfish)

    • http://uncleteddysreeducationcamp.com teddy maher

      Lets go fishing …. we will deal with this when the money runs out and the welfare system can give no more …. then the haves will have to gird themselves,but to no avail ….The numbers are not in their favor…

    • sam1966

      True that! True that! We were founded a Christian nation and need to get back to the ways we were founded on said principles. Both Christians and non-Christians throughout the ages realize that the Christian faith provides the only foundation needed for nations to be free, and to retain our God given liberty. This is a fact of history and cannot be denied. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “No one should be affraid to take on any enterprise in the name of our Savior if it is right and the purpose is purely for His holy service.”

      Christopher Columbus

    • Robert Wilson

      I completely agree with the page you wrote;maybe the NEXT president will pay attention, send this to him, because,” YOUR present president may ignore it”

  • Charlie Tall

    And when the economy goes tits-up, the masses living on wealth redistribution will take to the highways looking for those who have “not paid their fair share.”

    They will be easily identified by the fact that they will have nice homes, clean, courteous children, and are self-supporting. Then the unwashed masses will declare that they are entitled to murder and pillage those folks because they did “not pay their fair share.”

    And this will all be aided and abetted by a government that is now bent on disarming victims and empowering the criminals, the takers, and the losers.

    • Walter77777

      In the Name of Jesus and the manifest destiny of of White Christians to rule the Earth our good Christian USA forefathers gave Native Americans blankets which had belonged to smallpox sufferers in an early form of biological warfare.

      Bearing the Cross of Jesus good Christians conquered much of the world heeding the admonition, “In hoc signo vinces.” In this sign conquer. Christians imagine themselves to be superior to the heathen, but this is onoy imaginary.

      • larry ryan

        Try not to be dumber than you have to. The people who did those things were NOT Christians. Calling yourself a Christian, or a Jew or a Muslim does not make you one. You must live your beliefs or you’re just a hypocrite using religion to further your own ends. The people who did those evil things and others who have done evil things using religion, any religion, as their justification are NOT religious or even spiritual.

        • Walter77777

          You may regard the persons who gave the Native Americans small pox infected blankets as not being Christians, but they claimed they were, and they regarded it as the manifest destiny of White Christians to rule the world.

          The colonialists had banners proclaiming, “In hoc signo vinces”, In this sign conquer, and the excuse they had for conquering the non-Christian world was to bring the heathen to Jesus. Now some Muslims are reacting to over four centuries of Western domination with some very unfortunate acts, and we find it marvelously easy to condemn all of Islam for this anger.

          Why is it so easy for Christians to behold the mote in the eye of our brethren while ignoring the beam in our own eye? Why must a nice Jewish boychik remind Christians of what it says in the Greek Scriptures?

          W.

      • sam1966

        Ah yes! Another 5th column libtard/progtard shows up on this site. Care to cite a source on this Walter, or is this just a chance for you to attack our Christian founding fathers? No one can deny that the founding fathers of the United States of America were men of deep religious convictions based on the Bible and their Christian faith in Jesus Christ. Of the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, 29 held seminary or Bible school degrees. This means a nation whose founding fathers were either distinctly Christian or had respect for the Judeo-Christian God and Bible, then yes. This nation is considered a Christian nation. THIS IS AN UNDENIABLE FACT OF HISTORY. About them having a banner about “This we will conquer”, you lie. Don’t forget that not everyone that dealt with the Indians were Christians. We Christians have been given a commission, to make and keep America a Christian nation! Christ the Lord said, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe ALL that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Matthew 28: 18 – 20. Simply stated, Christians are commanded to do our best to make America a Christian nation. What does this mean, to make America a Christian nation? A Christian nation is one built upon the Word of God, and substained with His presence. So, why do you show your atheist and satanic colors and spew lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and lies here? Take a hike as we are not buying what you are trying to sell. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dedicated by God Himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human laws should be suffered (permitted) to contradict these.”

        William Blackstone 1723 – 1780

    • Robert Wilson

      Hang on to your AK, and DO NOT GAIN WEIGHT,(The enemy looks for the fatter people to plunder THEM!)

  • Mike Grunewald

    While the majority of these issues do indeed show a decline in the content of character, I am not sure the McDonald’s incident warranted a mention. This is a very common issue with this fast food chain. For close to 20 years, I have the same problem almost every time I have ordered a burger. Usually happens once – even though I have tried to solve this issue by routinely saying -”plain – nothing on it – two burgers and a bun”. Occasionally the second order is wrong as well. I have never turned over tables or the like, but my attitude has been growing more unpleasant. The last time it happened, I cancelled the order entirely and will not go back. This isn’t isolated to particular locations either. I have had this problem in nearly every state east of the Mississippi. I suggest McDonald’s review their menu to fix this constant problem.

    • Robert Wilson

      HANG ON TO THAT BURGER, SCRAPE THE CHEESE OFF, FORGET RETURNING IT, YOU MAY CONFUSE THE ORDERING ENGINEER!

  • FreedomFighter

    This recognition of the need to prepare puts you ahead of “the herd”.
    •This means that you will look at current events differently.
    •This means that you will think critically when presented with information via the media.
    •This means that you will truly weigh the pros and cons of fiat currency that you intend to spend.
    •This means that when you shop, you aren’t just looking to feed your family until the next grocery trip.

    Even if you just have a little inkling in the back of your mind that things are not as they ought to be, you have crossed a thresh-hold and you can choose whether you want to step in to awareness or slam the door on that uneasy feeling and go about your life, doing things the way you have always done them.

    If you’re still reading, then you may have decided to come on in and join the ranks of the prepared!

    While it’s late in the game we aren’t in the last inning just yet – so let’s get started!

    The wake-up call for many of us is a downturn in finances. While it’s ideal to begin stocking up while your income is still good, don’t be discouraged if you’ve taken a financial hit. You won’t be able to buy a year’s supply in one marathon shopping trip but you can empower yourself by getting started.

    Is It Too Late to Start Prepping?
    http://www.theorganicprepper.ca/is-it-too-late-to-start-prepping-12252012

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Robert Wilson

      Now’s the time to think about dieting,LESS food to store.

  • Heather

    The real question is – how many of these people are on Prozac? The difference between now and when anyone could carry a gun and the rest of us weren’t worried is that NOW some of our neighbors, friends, fellow-citizens are not in control because they are being DRUGGED and there is NO REASON for this except the Powers That Be do not want them to stand up for themselves while they are stolen blind. How much tax revenue was stolen from the future of American children in 2008? We’re 16 trillion in debt and the number is moving up every second. As long as The People are shooting one another – it’s just another day at the castle for the thieving, leeching, whoring useless US Congress and Executive.

    • Jeff

      Cutting taxes, waging war, and collapsing the economy will do it every time.

      http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/05/obama-romney-deficit-debt-chart.php

      • sam1966

        If you don’t like cutting taxes Jeffy, then you can pay Sook Young’s and I share of the new taxes that will go into affect next month due to Obama bin Laden Care. $200 billion in new tax revenues for you “messiah” to spend. Here is something in Obama bin Laden Care that may close restaurants across the country:

        http://www.townhall.com/columnists/leahbarkoukis/2012/11/25/why_menu_labeling_is_another_jobkilling_regulation_in_obamacare

        Sorry son, but we need our jobs and not a so called healthcare plan that taxes the producers and gives it to the ones that are too lazy to work. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The American population is entirely Christian, and with us Christianity and religion are identified. It would be strange indeed if with such a people, our institutions did not presuppose Christianity, and did not often refer to it, and exhibit relations with it.”

        John Marshall
        Supreme Court Justice

    • Robert Wilson

      NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU VOTE ,CHECK OUT HIS MATHEMATICAL CAPABILITIES.

  • http://www.facebook.com/barbjeanpatton Barb Patton

    Some 13 years ago I saw that the America we were fed on the big screen was not the real America. Yes, this country has become a godless country, and many more negative things. I am hoping against hope that the America that would stand with their hands on their heart facing their flag will once again rise from the ashes. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

    • Robert Wilson

      America has been asleep for a long time, but she is awakening, WE HAVE THE TEAPARTY!

  • http://midcontent brand inspector

    When the brain dead dems dreamed up consolidation of small shools in to mega schools, and since ubdeer another socialist group of wanna be dictators of the democrap party mond set, that beleived government agencies knows what is best for everyone, was the start of the decline. When the roits of the 60′s and 70′s proved to instagated by communists and USA haters, under the guise of anti war crap. All you need to read history books even with all the liberial slant.When our males were pusified to act and behave like females, as well as plenty of drug use by now great grandparent, grandparents, and parents, no wonder we have more mental idoits showing up in society. In the 70′s when housing loons not ready for prime time society, were released, society slide farther into the sewer. The foul mouth idoit usually got a beat down, for the public display. Another break down came from the idea of hard labor from inmates, not the leisure life of criminals lead in the hotel Hilton, because it is blamed on lack of money and poor education, not the government mindset of minorities they are all victums of socity. It is more of a dead azz syndrom, sweating when doing a job isn’t cool, like drug dealing. The jugeared thin skinned WH inhabant is proof of waste everyone elses money and contribute nothing

    • Jeff

      I wasn’t aware the trademarked brand Republican Idiot required an actual inspector. One can generally smell the stupidity or read it on the W ’04 sticker.

      • http://midcontent brand inspector

        Go to any predominate welfare community and the oder of a lazy azzed gang groups blanketed a large area. In the apartmeny housing towers in Chitcogo in the late 70′s smelt like a gut wagon from a slaughter house had just passes by. Between the pot haze and the gut wagon smell, the southern people said it was like a oppossum group were nesting in a alfalfa feild. Never could unstand why blacks and Jews are such trademark voters for the socialist/communist dumbocraps, even though the socialist embrace the idea of generational welfare wards generation pukes for the blacks, and the jug eared marxist embracing of pedophile rug rubbers, all who want to kill all Christians and all Jews. Same bastards who use their children and wives worse than a stray dog Never could figure out what socialist democrap embrace the abhorant behavior and congential liars as party leaders.

    • Robert Wilson

      A mouthful said; What we need is an overhaul of our CHECKS AND BALANCES SYSTEM. YOUR newish prez has walked over the now defunked one.We might even think of changing the way we put supreme court Justices in place. Could it be that we the people might VOTE for them to a term of four years?

    • Robert Wilson

      If we were all on drugs, who would do the work? If each of us married the “same sex”, what would that do for the population? Is ANY OF THIS NORMAL THINKING? If not, then we have no normal thinking administration. NOW, THE MINORITY RULES!

    • Robert Wilson

      To Brand inspector; It’s built into their genes !

  • Jeremy Leochner

    All the things Mr. Livingston mentioned are terrible. And I agree our nation faces terrible trouble. However I do not think that the problem is that “We live in a Nation in which God has been removed from schools, prayers are banned from public places”. One because I disagree with both those statements and that I do not think they are a problem. It is hard to believe that god has been removed from school when the pledge of allegiance is still sung in many including that whole one nation under god line. Also it is hard to imagine prayer being banned from public places when we still have nativity scenes honoring the birth of Christ and where virtually every major public official is required to take an oath on the bible. I am not saying prayer and religion is entirely accepted and recognized. But neither is it oppressed and rejected. As for the issues of our day. I am not a religious person. I do not believe in god. Many members of my family either do not believe in god or do not pray. However my family members are among the most hard working and decent people you have ever met. So I do not believe that having prayer in school or in public is necessary to have a decent society. I agree our society is struggling with major issues but I disagree that a lack of god in our public sphere is an issue.

    • sam1966

      Wrong, wrong, wrong Jeremy. It is needed in a Christian nation or any nation for that matter. Like it says in the Bible, “The fool saith there is no God in his own heart.”, in Psalms 14:1 and Psalms 53:1. Why would King David repeat himself if it weren’t true? If your family members don’t believe in God, then get them, along with yourself, back into church. I wouldn’t want to look down from heaven and see you all being turned into charcoal brickettes. Here is something is defense of our God given rights under the 2nd Amendment:

      http://www.conservativevideos.com/2012/12/chuck-woolery-on-assult-weapons/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to me a patriot.

      “A patriot without religion in my estimation is as great a paradox as an honest man without the fear of God. It is possible that he whom no moral obligations bind, can have any real good will towards men? Can he be a patriot who, by an openly vicious conduct, is undermining the very bonds of society? The Scriptures tell us, “Righteousness exalteth a nation, sin is a reproach to any people.”

      Abigail Adams
      November 05, 1775

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Sam I have two big points to make.

        First I watched the video with Mr. Woolery and I have this to say.

        1: In regards to reason 1. I am a liberal and I do not consider the constitution obsolete. That theory is not a liberal one.

        2: In regards to reason 2. Yes the founders wanted us to have protection from them. However that kind of protection is not needed as of this time. Also the second amendment calls for a well regulated militia. It does not say do whatever you want.

        3: There does not need to be a gun behind every blade of grass to deter foreign invasion. A good armed forces such as we have now is a very effective one. Also we have nuclear weapons.

        4: On reason 5. I feel Mr. Woolery was contradicting himself by trying to emphasis the importance of having assault weapons only to talk about the potential destructive of hand guns.

        5: On reason 6. With all due respect we could also get lots of jobs by hiring people to fight the illicit trade of guns or as armed guards in schools or as teachers or as therapists or as any number of other things that could help combat the issue of gun violence in schools. Just because it can “create jobs” does not make it okay.

        My second point is the issue of religion. I do not believe I or any of my family should be “turned into charcoal brickettes” simply because we do not believe in god. One does not have to believe in god to be a good patriot or to have a moral compass. My parents raised me with the golden rule of treat others as you wish to be treated. I was taught that my actions have consequences and that I must make amends if I wrong someone. I was taught all of this without any mention of god. A person has a conscience whether they believe in god or not. It is up to them to listen to it or not. You quoted scripture when you mentioned that “sin is a reproach to any people”. I agree with that statement. Where I believe we disagree is the nature of the reproach. I once heard someone describing the Buddhist view of sin and while I am not a Buddhist I feel it matches my own. What they described was that committing a sin is like eating a piece of spoiled food. When a person becomes sick as a result its not because someone is punishing them, its because that is simply what happens when one eats spoiled food. I see sin or evil deeds in the same way. Bad actions cause suffering to the one who commits them not because they are being judged but because that is simply the way of things. The guilt I feel when I do something wrong is not a punishment. Its just what happens. Its a way of telling you you are in the wrong. And this is my belief without god in my life. I strive everyday to be an honorable man. To be a man of my word. I believe that if indeed there is a god he will not care that I did not believe in him so long as I strove all my life to be a good man. And I believe the same will apply to my family and others.

      • sam1966

        Jeremy says that he believes the Constitution is the law of the land and is still valid in this day and age. This I agree with you. Good job as you have scored some points with me. On what you said on point 5, well said and more points. Good job. But alas! Here is where you lose more points then you have gained:

        Point 1: You are right about a well regulated militia in each state being mentioned in the 2nd Amendment and you said it is not needed at this time? Are you sure about this? By how Clinton has cut our military in half, Obama bin Laden wants to slash our navy to levels so low that we couldn’t really respond to our allies, and would rely heavily on the reserves and national guard. But as we know, reserve and guard units tend not to fight as well, or be up on their training and physical fitness standards, as active units. This is why they send them to minin boot camps of 4 – 6 weeks long before being deployed. I should know as we had a reserve “company” attached to my battalion in Afghanistan and a guard “company” attached to my battalion in Iraq. Most of them couldn’t keep up the pace.

        Point 2: The militia is made up of all men between the ages of 18 – 60, who are physically and mentally able to fight, and have their own firearm. This can boost our army numbers above 100 million. They will fill the empty ranks and help the army fight any aggressor.

        Point 3: You are right about our military, but read what I said in point 2, and our having special weapons (gas, germs, and nuclear). But alas! We will not use them on our own soil and will only be used as a last resort. We wear the white hats, not the black hats, as are seen in westerns.

        Point 4: Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. If stores, local governments, and the system really screened people, as they should, then there would be no school shootings at all. Neither more guns, less guns, nor more laws will prevent these things from happening. We need to get back to believing in God, going strictly by the Constitution, and going by the ways of our Christian founding fathers. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path. Here is proof of what we need:

        http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/neither-guns-nor-more-laws-will-fix-whats-wrong-in-america/

        Point 5: Your last paragraph you made a hypocrite out of yourself. How can you be taught and follow God’s Commandments, statutes, and the teachings of Jesus, but not believe? It is good that you believe in them, but you need to believe in the author of them also. Remember, “To believe ing God is the starting of all wisdom.” Also, Jesus said in John 4:16 “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the father except by me.” In other words, believing in both and living the way they say to, as is written in the Bible, is what is needed for a happy life in the here after. Like I said, I’m sure that God and Jesus like it if you lead a godly life, but works without faith will not get you into heaven, just being cast into the lake of fire for all eternity. Sook Young and I will pray for you tonight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I have one great political idea…That idea is an old one. It is widely and generally assented to; nevertheless, it is very generally trampled upon and disregarded. The best expression of it, I have found in the Bible. It is in substance, “Righteousness exalteth a nation; sin is a reproach to any people” (Proverbs 14:34). This constitutes my politics – the negative and positive of my politics, and the whole of my politics…I feel it my duty to do all in my power to infuse this idea into the public mind, that it may speedily be recognized and practiced upon by our people.”

        Frederick Douglas

      • Robert Wilson

        To Abigail Adams; Right you are, these virtues are needed as such. They are needed in government FOR SURE, The president should follow the constitution, be above reproach, and “Mr. clean”, with the ability to be put upon a pedestal, KNOW ANY POLITIC IAN WITH THESE QUALITIES?

        • sam1966

          I know some that are better than others, but not the 100% needed for them to lead. Well said Robert, well said. In fatc, here is a video showing what they believe in:

          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/01/liberal-chick-the-state-is-my-shepherd-i-shall-not-want/

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          “This nation was established by men who believed in God. You will see the evidence of this deep religious faith on every hand.”

          Harry S. Truman

    • Robert Wilson

      HOW did we get this way? How long have we Christians had our heads in the proverbial stuff? Are we so simple minded that we can not see that the churches have had their heads in the same place? Just what does it take to infuriate a Christian? I feel that rather than SPEAK OUT,churches, afraid to loose their tax exempt status, will not address the issues. NOTICE; While in the pulpit the pastor will not mention the word “shacking-up.” to his members. Why?, because somewhere out there in the membership there is a father, mother, aunt, ect. that either has a “wayward child”, with a bastard grand child living together in sinful bliss, with an unstable father, unstable future ahead, or an absentee flunky father. Actually the pastor is truly aware of this and does not want to hurt feelings.THEN, there is the issue of SA ME-SEX MARRIAGES,This is certainly not mentioned for the same reason. SAME SEX MARRIAGES; Does this mean since I am a man that I may marry my male dog?( I could put him on my company insurance.)

      • BR549

        Robert Wilson wrote: “HOW did we get this way? How long have we Christians had our heads in the proverbial stuff? Are we so simple minded that we can not see that the churches have had their heads in the same place?”

        My guess is that the church and its followers were too busy reading and regurgitating the text, but failing to learn the lessons. Probably the single biggest lesson in the Abrahamic religions has been for these people to recognize each other as brothers. Instead, while Islam reveres Christ as a true prophet, Christians continually refers to Mohammed as Satan; a false prophet. Well, who are they to cast that stone?

        For that matter, Buddhist followers look at the divine in a totally unique way, one that avoids the whole Judeo-Christian shame and guilt trip, and yet Christians see Buddhism as also blasphemous or at least a waste of time.

        In actuality, we should be jumping for joy that members of different religions are at least making an attempt to hold themselves responsible to a power higher than that of man and his narcissistic ego.

        Ishmael and Isaac, whether genuinely historic or merely allegorical, represent an internal struggle that we encounter during our spiritual maturation process; that is, of course, if we are paying attention. The two brothers are presented to us in apparent biblical history in a way that siblings often do in a family; constantly competing with one another and selfishly vying for the attention of the parents; that is until they hopefully mature enough into adults before their animosity kills one or both of them. What starts out as siblings being unable to recognize aspects of themselves in the other, later becomes a love of their sibling for assisting the other in a growth and healing process.

        But do we see Muslims and Christians embracing each other as brothers of Abraham? Heck no. Each side, like selfish and unconscious brothers, thinks it has the corner on the religion market and has to continually accuse the other as blasphemous. That hypocrisy has been fomenting for near 2000 years and it’s no wonder that all these issues are coming back to haunt everyone. It’s like a dysfunctional person who continues to avoid addressing his issues, only to find that as he gets older, those issues come screaming for recognition the more the person tries to disguise them. The more they are ignored, the more internalized the energy becomes, and the sicker the person becomes as they remain in denial.

        That’s where we are with religion. Each and every religion has many members within it that see God in every other person and organism, …….. but the problem is that the unconscious OTHER members in each are the ones screaming the loudest in pain, projecting their discomfort on anyone they can, and justifying the destruction of the others who are themselves aspects of God. They call themselves devout Christians, Muslims, or Jews, yet the very fact that they pick up a sword against their brother means they have taken up a sword against themselves.

        Pardon my lack of brevity.

        • Jeff

          How can you be sure Jesus wasn’t controlled by the bankers too? Why is it everything anyone else believes is just a figment of an Illuminati-controlled conspiracy while you know the TRUTH unvarnished by any such conspiracies?

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong Jeffy. If Jesus was controlled by the bankers, them why did he run them out of the temple, turn over their tables, free the animals there, and take a whip to them to cleanse the temple of them? You do remember Jesus saying, “My house shall be a house of prayer, but you have turned it into a den of thieves.” while looking directly at the priests? You atheists may not be under the control of the bankers, bilderbergs, or the illuminati, but you are controlled by someone more powerful then they, satan himself. Here is something that you and your 5th columnist ilk want to do to this country:

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/31/Fiscal-cliff-deal-41-1-in-tax-increases-to-spending-cuts-ratio

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Never did a prisoner released from his chains feel such relief as I shall on shaking off the shackles of power…I thank God for the opportunity of retiring from them without centure, and carrying with me the most consoling proofs of public approbation.”

        Thomas Jefferson

  • callit

    The U.S. citizenry is totally disgusted with the the disregard of our country,its people,and just plain common sense shown by the persons we elect to run our nation sworn to on the bible to place this country FIRST. The only thought from any one of those elected polititions is to look out for #1,themselves, to this point of absolute frustration and disbelief of their stupidity and greed! Knowing these observations and watching this constant posturing i.e. “it’s their fault,no,it’s their fault” then coming up with the typical solution, we the working class, the 99%,are the problem so
    let’s take more from them with the help of our controlled media to convince us,so we can go on as usual,printing more worthless money untill it collapses,at least I have mine.

    We have let this uncaring,unscrupulous,inept government to have the power manipulate the control of every facit of our lives with absolute imunity for their actions to the point declaring war without provication (weopons of mass distruction),thus borrowing this country into poverty to finance the the fiasco and lest we forget the rebuilding of same while their own is falling apart,the ability to overide the mandate of the people after popular votes upholding the laws on illegal aliens
    thru the judicial system,the constant decisions to protect the rich,and the worst of all the absolute immunity to take bribes at any time,from anyone,namely lobbyists (retired,voted out polititions,friends of big business). The point being, why, with this kind of power and insulation from any resposibility to the contrary can we the people hope for any change,they are lauthing all the way to the bank (in another country). This one fact is allways prime ONLY our government had/has the power to have put us in the position we are in.

    • Robert Wilson

      To; Callit Dec.26 12. Does it seem to you that government as we know it works in reverse? I know that, even though I am highly qualified for a governmental position, since I am ugly, I will have to submit to a loss to someone with a “Hollywood” face,(sound familiar?) We sometimes vote for rhetoric, not track record, and now we see the results.

  • Jim Cooke

    I remember those days from the 50s and the 60s fondly. I told a friend not too long ago, “As I look around I don’t see the country I grew up in. And I really miss it.” Well, the times have changed. I don’t have to like it, but I have to live with it. So, I am teaching my grandchildren the things my father and my grandfather taught me. I may not live long enough to see the fruit from those young trees, but I cannot, I will not change my principles because of madness and mayhem and self-centered sickness in others.

    • Robert Wilson

      Mr. Cook; Keep the faith, I see much progress in the coming generation. I spoke with a young graduate about her future. Her answer to the failing school system is: If you are half-way intelligent, you can find the means to a higher education regardless of the “dumb-down theory”. Besides, I just saw an interesting happening at my favorite grocery store. A woman with a small child about fourteen months old was asked by his flakey mother which cereal to buy. With about two thousand boxes of corn flakes, crisp rice, buck wheat on the shelves, the child burped, and pointed to bran flakes. Now, how intelligent can you get? And your future is in his hands!

  • Jeff

    I keep telling everyone that my generation (i was born in ’63) are the worst parents in human history! yelling, cursing, never around, worried about their social life & appearance than their own family, sneaking drugs, & sex even if married or dating like a teenager, spending money like crazy, being in dept and spoiling these kids rotten and plenty more! They, We are the worst parents ever!

    • sam1966

      That kind of sounds like the poor areas of every city in America (HOODS). Here is something that will mean many Americans dying due to the death pannels in Obama bin Laden Care:

      http://www.theamericanthinker.com/2012/12/obamacare_game_on_for_physicians.html

      Get ready to kiss your friends and family members good bye when this starts up. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “We failed, but in good Providence of God apparent, failure often prove to be a blessing.”

      Robert E. Lee

      • clark

        Sam1966
        I have been reading your material all through this thread, and I find your knowledge of the scriptures to be outstanding, and your ability to pull up quotes amazing.

        Somewhere along the way, I saw someone bring up the question of God’s involvement in the bad things that happen. To that question, I would like to present the scriptures themselves as telling us that God is in complete control of his creation.

        God is all powerful, all knowing, and everywhere according to scripture. In Ephesians, the scriptures say that we were predestined to be in christ jesus before the foundations of the world. That was refering to Christian believers. If that be the case, ( and it is ) then those who do not believe were also predestined to be what they are. If Jesus was predestined to be our savior since before the foundations of the Earth, then we were predestined to be sinners before Adam and Eve existed. God must have created the Devil. He did not have to allow him into the garden, and Adam and Eve did not know what or who the Devil was until after the fall. God said ” he has become as one of us knowing both good and evil.”

        We are saved by grace. The word grace means unmerited, undeserved, favor bestowed upon us. Through faith, and that not of yourself, but that is also a gift from God. It is the results of divine rule. It is nothing we can attribute to ourselves.

        Everything has to go across God’s desk, because his scriptures say ( there is no power but that of God.) God is everywhere, so he must inhabit every atom of his creation. If he isn’t in it, it ceases to exist. He is all knowing, so the future is aready known to him, and that would include the end results of everybody on the earth.

        Sam I believe that God does know everything, have all power, and is everywhere, and that Earth is just the pot where the separation of those who measure up and those who don’t is carried out. The scriptures plainly state that God puts the spirit of man within him. If all of mankind is specifically created by God, then the spirit, mind, and body of each one is all he has to make a decision with. If all of those things are God given, then his place in the scheme of things is already slated.

        The scriptures state that God is a spirit. I believe that spirit includes all of the laws that govern everything in all of creation. As his creation, I believe we probably may never know how it all works, or why. One thing is certain, The scriptures state openly that all of the horrible things mentioned in them, must come to pass. It would appear that much of Revelation is happening to us today. I thank God for those like yourself, who have studied the Scriptures, and used them as a guide, but at the same time we must not ever forget that we could have been left among those who are lost without grace, and not look down our nose at them.

      • sam1966

        Thank you Clark, fellow patriot. It is good to see another faith in God patriot on this thread. I hope to see more of your posts. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The law given from Sinai contained many statutes of universal application. Laws essential to the existence of men in society.”

        John Quincy Adams

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Jeff,”

      I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE THREE YEARS OLDER THAN I; YET, YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH THE Nazi “holocaust!” – YOU WERE NOT, EVEN BORN!

      YOU ARE A PROPAGANDIST!

    • Robert Wilson

      To Jeff Dec6 From reading your comment, not all is lost. It seems you have had a reality check. Maybe this is why that generation is called “X”. Think of future gens that look back to the history of present “noise/music, NOT GOOD ,HUH?” YOU, however , are a cut above the average, congratulatons.

  • Bimbam

    Did anyon hear the Queen’s Christmas speech the other day to her nation?

    I heard an excerpt they played on the radio and this is why the world is going down. She said, “……ME AND MY FAMILY…..”, it is suppose to be “MY FAMILY AND I” ……etc. SHOCKER! The queen of England is using the SELFISH language of the world. The leader of the free world PUTS HER SELF FIRST in the most REVEALING unconscious thought coming from her.

    I SEE THIS EVERYWHERE, where people say, me and my friends, me and my wife, or me and my sons, etc. From my college-educated nephew, to top-notch radio host, to guess, to writers, even to congressmen, but I have never HEARD A LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD talk like that!!!

    THE FINAL NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN!!! No wonder Britain is going downhill. The Queen has just BROADCAST SELFISHNESS to be a priority to her people. Watch Britain slowly succumb to this subtle but insidious brainwashing. BRITAIN WILL SOON BE GONE…..

    Has anyone heard that “trigger” phrase from Barry Saetoro yet? Me and my….blah, blah, blah…..

    Were in trouble if he did, that’s why!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Bimbam,”

      I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE CRITICIZING GREAT BRITAIN’S BEST MONARCH. [Before the establishment of Great Britain, England's Henry II (reigned, 1154-1189), is the only monarch I like better].

      Elizabeth II REIGNS WITH DISTINCTION – SINCE HER CORONATION IN 1952. SHE DESERVES THE RIGHT TO TALK TO HER PEOPLE IN A WARM MANNER WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT GRAMMATICAL ENGLISH.

  • HILLBILLY

    What happen in ALABAMA in 1963? That event started the USA down the path we are in today..

    • Robert Wilson

      To Hillbilly; This was predicted by a great Governor, (Your next door neighbor).

  • charliep

    Doesn’t this describe the world we live in today? It might even be worse then Paul describes here…

    2 Timothy
    Chapter 3
    1 But know this, that in the last days disastrous times will be upon us. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, braggarts, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, wicked, 3 without natural feeling, addicted to lust, slanderers, without self-control, savage, haters of good, 4 traitors, hasty, boasters, lovers of
    pleasure rather than lovers of Elohim1 5 having a form of righteousness, but denying the power of it; even turn away from these2. 6 For of these are those creeping into house
    and leading silly women captive, the ones having been heaped with sins, being led away by various lusts, 7 always striving to learn, but never being able to come to a full knowledge of the truth 3. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres stood up against Moses, so do these also withstand the truth: men of corrupt minds and far off from the faith. 9 But they will not go further, for their foolishness will be well known to every man, even as that of the other was also. 10 But you have closely followed my doctrine, the conduct, the purpose, the faith, the long-suffering, the love, the patient endurance, 11 the persecutions, the sufferings, such as happened to me in Antioch, in Iconium, in Lystra, how I was persecuted. And my Master delivered me out of all. 12 Likewise, all those desiring to live a righteous life in Messiah Yahshua will be persecuted. 13 But evil men and pretenders will grow worse and worse, leading astray and being led astray 4. 14 But you keep on
    in what you learned and were assured of, knowing from whom you learned, 15 and that you have learned from your childhood, the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise to salvation through belief in Messiah Yahshua. 16 All Scripture is written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit and
    profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 so that the man of Elohim may be perfected, and complete for every good work.
    1 There are 18 wicked characteristics showing how evil people will be in the end times.
    2 It is frightening to think that these characteristics are defining people who are supposed to be brethren.
    3 How true is this today in the Internet laden spiritually empty arena of such people.
    4 The key to this is that these false teachers have not been ordained by YHWH and have no authority for the heresies that they purport

    • Robert Wilson

      According to the BIBLE, no one will know when the end will be, do you happen to have some inside skinny? To charliep^

      • Walter77777

        Actually the quotes from Timothy could have applied to almost any time since these words were written so we have been living in the Last Days for about 2,000 years.

        W.

  • Terry Bateman

    Our great society is not and will not collapse. Some individual members are collapsing
    and will collapse, but that is nothing new. Fear mongering media molesters spreading
    negativism about the USA join the criminals in trying to tear down our country. If you
    don’t like America, GET OUT!

    • Robert Wilson

      To; Terry Bateman; I’ll buy a ticket for the mal-adjusted, lets invest in an old decommissioned aircraft carrier, load it with high explosives,———————.

  • Gordon in Texas

    Want to see just how far this society has fallen? Go to: notalwaysright.com.

    We have lost our way.

  • Ranchman

    And everything is gong according to governmental plans. It’s all exactly as they want it. Things will get so bad that the people themselves will BEG for martial law and troops to be sent in. And that, folks, will be their own downfall. Never before has a nation of free individuals so readily given up their freedom on false crises perpetrated upon them by their own govt which then implements the “solution” they had all along. It’s pathetic to see everyone become sheep, standing in line to hand in their civil rights. Well, I, for one, am not planning on going quietly into the night or quietly into a FEMA concentration camp. I WILL fire upon any and all who come to take away ANYTHING they’re not entitled to! I can only hope that, as time goes on, more and more will feel this way.

    Molon Labe!
    Remember 1776 & Keep Your Powder Dry!

    Ranchman

    • Jeff

      So when the IRS knocks on your door, you’ll declare war?

      • BR549

        Jeff wrote: “So when the IRS knocks on your door, you’ll declare war?”

        No, Ranchman was describing how the brain-dead liberals will be all too eager to hold the Vaseline jar while the government “thanks” them in its very special way.

    • Robert Wilson

      To; Ranchman; BEEN TO THE LONG LINES AT THE GUN SHOPS LATELY?

  • gunner689AI

    No God, No Patriotism, No Civics , Little History taught in school. People living under their parents roof until they’re 30. Nothing beyond self. “Tolerance of deviant, anti-social behavior.” We reap what we sow. Thank 40 yrs. of Progressiveism.

    • Robert Wilson

      To; Gunner; What could we expect from an administration that feels MAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO MARRY MAN? What we have here is abnormal thinking. This another contribution to minority rule, the rot of the moral spine of this nation, but NOT FOR LONG, We have THE TEA PARTY!

      • Walter77777

        Marriage among gay men is an idea whose time has come. It is important for heterosexual couples to be faithful to one another, but in an age of AIDS it is quite literally a matter of life and death (and money)to have gay men keep their relationships one-on-one.

        One of the things that keep partners in marriages faithful to one another is the large financial penalties extracted in divorces by a partner who has been cheated on. This may help to reduce the spread HIV/AIDS and reduce the costs to society.

        W.

  • Reloader

    Again, gods only create violence. Think about it all you hypocrits.

    • sam1966

      The Lord our God doesn’t create violence, just those that have no God in them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “Duty is ours, results are God’s”

      John Quincy Adams

  • http://kgshaw12345@yahoo.com&kennethgshaw@facebook.com Kenneth G. Shaw

    Well, look what the LaGrange, Ky. Walmart did on last Black Thursday? They invited people to their Black Thursday Thanksgiving Day sale & had the corrupt LaGrange & Oldham County Police Suvs parked in the fire lanes at the LaGrange, Ky. Kentucky Hillbilly Walmart & these dangerous, violent, psychotic, bizarre LaGrange & Oldham County cops in Walmart harassing shoppers as they tried to get their Christmas shopping done. Good thing that there wasn’t a fire at this Kentucky Hillbilly Walmart store!!!!!! A nutty cop tored me a new one, just for straightening up the down comforters on my side of the box. I just had the down comforters in a neat stack on my side of the box & this nutty cop tored me a new one for it! The other side of the box of comforters was a mess. Some people who couldn’t reached the Blueray dvd players asked me to hand them one & when I did another nutty cop tored me another new one with, “you don’t work here, you don’t hand out the dvd players.” Since, when do you need to work somewhere in order to show politeness & common courtesy!!! A elderly woman was looking through a box of down comforters, too, for a king-sized comforter & when she couldn’t find one, I handed her one of mine & said, Merry Christmas! She thought that I needed it for a gift, but I told her that I had a nice set of JC Penny pots & pans & other gifts already wrapped in my spare bedroom that I can use for Christmas & that I probably will have to come back next year for next Christmas, but, like I told her, maybe not, given the way Walmart has these crazy cops in LaGrange (Ky.) harassing people. This Kentucky Hillbilly LaGrange, Ky. Walmart was acting even more bizarre & crazy, then these very bizarre & crazy LaGrange & Oldham County cops!!!!!! LaGrange & Oldham County is a very bizarre, crazy, corrupt town & county!!!!!! Kentucky is even very bizarre, crazy, racist & impolite at Christmas time!!!!!! It’s a good thing that one of these crazy & very bizarre LaGrange & Oldham County cops didn’t see me hand this little old lady one of my down comforters, because they probably would’ve torn me a new one for the third time that evening!!!!!! It’s pretty bad when you can’t hand a little old lady a down comforter, without being torned a new one by the very bizarre & crazy cops of LaGrange & Oldham County & this ignorant Kentucky Hillbilly state!!!!!!

    • WILDFIRE

      Well Kenneth, I wasn’t there at the very moment you was there to hand out the blu ray dvd player to a requesting customer. But is it possible that the cop “tore you a new one” because maybe the product wasn’t supposed to be touched or handed out until a certain time, or perhaps they were using a ticket number system to hand out the products and someone thought they would pull a quick one, by cutting in line and/ or sliding in under the radar and ask someone nearby to hand (slip) them one and off they go undetected.

      I suspect instruction were likely given on how products will be distributed on this day and to see to it that it was done in an orderly fashion it was needed to have police in the area to ensure riots and chaos don’t breakout. Perhaps you didn’t hear or understand the instructions or just simply unable to comprehend through instruction or common sense.

      The fact that it was required to have police guarding the walmart store indicates to me that apparently that area breeds alot of ignorant and uneducated people that know nothing more than riot, chaos and violence. Many Walmarts located around upper class neighborhoods don’t need to rely on police to keep order in their stores because their patrons usually don’t act like animals and sewer rats. If you wonder into a neighborhood that has bars and bullet proof windows at the local convenient and gas stations. That is all you need too see to know that apparently you have wondered amongst sewer rats and out right animals not civilized humans and should vacate the neighborhood immediately unless you reside there and are a libtard / democrat / communist, in which case I suggest should remain in that neighborhood and not spread out and ruin neighboring communities with their sick and perverse mindset and attitude.

      • http://kennethgshaw.wordpress.com kennethgshaw

        Well, Wildfire,- 1rst, I’m a life-long Libertarian, just like Bob Livingston & a registered Republican, since my 18 birthday. Maybe, you would like to call Bob Livingston what you just called me? 2nd, LaGrange & Oldham County is the most affluent, upper-class county in this ignorant, Kentucky Hillbilly state & also, the most Republican. The instruction & distribution was people was crowded around the merchandise & in the case of the down comforters when 8pm came the boxes was torned open & it was every person for themselves & in the case of the Blue-ray dvd players the same thing only 2 hours later at 10pm. People was just crowded around the merchandise & if you wasn’t pressed right up against the merchandise, like me & some few lucky other ones, then you didn’t get anything, unless, like some did with me, where they asked me to hand them 1, too, in the case of the Blue-ray dvd players, as soon as 10pm came. There was no ticket number system & Walmart didn’t hand them out & we didn’t touched them, until the certain time(s) & then after the certain time(s), it was who ever got the merchandise first. Some was just polite enough to asked me to hand them a Blue-ray dvd player, which I was more, than happy to do, if for no other reason, because of where they had us pressed up against the merchandise & by me handing them a Blue-ray things thinned out, so I could get out of there & do the rest of my Christmas shopping in another part of Walmart. Gaurding the Walmart, Wildfire, like a police state? Since, when are companies or anyone allowed to misused the police? Using the police, like your own private Gestapo or SS is what Bob Livingston would call a police state or at the very least, crony capitalism!!!!!! I would ask you to use common sense, but I don’t think that you’re capable to comprehend through instruction & common sense, like civilized human beings!!!!!! Wildfire, I will agree with you on 1 thing, where this ignorant & uneducated Kentucky Hillbilly state & LaGrange & Oldham County are violent & chaotic & lawless, so much that these very ignorant Kentucky Hillbillies left me “to die in a ditch,” after 1 of their drunk drivers hit & ran me in this very affluent, upper-class & very Republican LaGrange & Oldham County!!!!!! I’m typing this with my still injured hands & arms!!!!!! P.S.,- if I lived in a apartment complex,- Stoneridge Apts. in LaGrange, Ky. amongst sewer rats & out right animals, then it’s because of the very bizarre, corrupt, dangerous, psychotic, Republican city & county officials & judges, who harassed me out of my home of 18 years & into this HUD & Kentucky Housing Corporation slum, where I & others reported this Slumlord,- Shane Courtney & his drug-dealing employees,- Clint & Ashley Howard & tenants!!!!!!

  • WILDFIRE

    STEVE E. says:

    “Nothing wrong with hurting feelings of people like that. Jesus did it all the time. They got their feelings hurt so bad that they hung Him from a cross. Now do some extensive research on that.”

    Yes and as these radicals imbeciles were doing this what did Jesus do and say? He prayed to God for them and asked God for forgiveness for they do not know what they do.

    Now imagine if it was a radical libtard being treated this way. You would not hear prayers from him/her asking forgiveness for his/her attackers. You would hear a barrage of vulgar language and name calling such as terrorists, racists, bigots, haters and every other “cry me a river” feel sorry for me whine they could think of.

  • barbara

    America’s on the super highway to hell and looks like we’re really getting close!

    • Jeff

      Well, certainly your neighbors are.

      • sam1966

        And people like Jeffy are taking us there. Get some help before it is too late. Here is something that Jeffy, along with his 5th column ilk, are responsible for:

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/8746/christian-business-owner-shuts-down-service-to-accomodate-gay-marriage-law/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one dissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.”

        John Quincy Adams

        • Jeff

          What kind of school would have a pathetic creep like you as a teacher? Your reasoning ability is, shall we say, rather limited. You can probably find exactly the same kind of articles in Southern states where businesses closed to avoid serving Blacks. Fortunately, in just a few years, gay marriage will be so common that your concerns will be about as relevant as those of Lester Maddox in the 60s are now.

          • sam1966

            Wanna bet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy out of the picture.

            The minute you put the document (Constitution) into the hands of non-Christian people and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundations of our society.”

            Rev. Pat Roberston

            *Boy was he right. Look what you 5th columners are trying to do with it.

  • ONTIME

    Your, elected and appointed officials are without a moral compass and abuse the rule of law with impugnity, there is no way to hold these elite incumbents responsible when they are nothing more than greased pigs that run amuck and make trouble..

    We need to institute term limits salary only and no retirements for all elected and appointed officials, we need to use a national sales tax to stop the abuse of class warfare and tax discrimination, take away those tools from the left and WTP can beging to regain our representation we are now losing…we can use parity and make these elites obey the laws they write for us…..

  • Walter77777

    Why is it that so many persons believe their Christian faith is superior to all other religions and usually believe that their brand of Christianity is better than other brands? Catholics believe their religion is superior to Protestantism while Protestants believe the opposite, and both of them consider themselves superior to Jews and even have justified doing some terrible things to Jews using a quotation from the Gospel of Matthew that a small group of Jews allegedly yelled to justify their actions.

    W

    • BR549

      Walter wrote: “Why is it that so many persons believe their Christian faith is superior to all other religions and usually believe that their brand of Christianity is better than other brands?”

      Walter, it isn’t just the Christians, as you point out, it’s groups of people with small minds choosing to embrace a lot of fear. If those people had been paying any attention at all to the larger lessons they were supposed to be learning, that were buried deep within their respective religions, they would have realized that the need to feel superior stems from their own inferiority, which translates that they don’t have as close a connection to God as they think they do, ……. but don’t tell them that because you’ll probably wind up dead reminding them.

    • sam1966

      Show me anywhere on this thread where someone said our religion was superior to others. Though we are the true faith. Believing in God is great, but you need to have Jesus as you personal savior to get into heaven.

      “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the father except by me.”

      Jesus Christ
      John 14:6

      Can’t be any plainer then that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “Don’t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.”

      Abraham Lincoln

      *BTW, you said before that you moved to a school that was mostly hispanic, now you say mostly black. Which one is it? Can you keep your story straight?

    • Robert Wilson

      To Walter777; The common denominator here is CHRISTian, we all believe in CHRIST. We could squabble forever about which religion is best, but the denominator is the same. I don’t know about your churches but the ones here in Texas have to draw the youth in by acquiring a brass band for entertainment. Here, we shape the churches to the youth instead of vice-versa.

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