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Mile-High Mania

December 15, 2011 by  

Mile-High Mania

Last Sunday afternoon, amid the noise of NFL squads either launching a late-season push for the playoffs or resigning themselves to hopes of drafting Andrew Luck, the Denver Broncos chased down the Chicago Bears in overtime, 13-10. In and of itself, the Broncos’ win is hardly the stuff of gridiron greatness. Sure, they came from behind to pick up the victory in a hard-fought struggle. And they needed a little help in the form of a Marion Barber fumble to snare even a chance at the game-winning field goal. But win they did — for the sixth straight week. Given the fact that three of those six victories have required overtime, some have taken to using the word “miraculous” to define the Broncos’ recent winning ways.

I am not among those who add divine descriptions to gridiron grandeur. Luck (“Lady,” not “Andrew”) has blessed the Broncos, who began their season with limited hopes of a title. And an oft-maligned, questionably prepared quarterback has hoisted the team on his broad shoulders and carried it toward the proverbial end zone. Tim Tebow, who began the season clinging desperately to a spot on the Broncos’ bench, has emerged as The Mile High City’s man of the year.

Tebow carries a football resume stuffed with superlatives. He won the Heisman Trophy and a pair of national championships during his tenure under center at the University of Florida. And now, despite an odd throwing motion, a marked tendency to telegraph his passes and an aggravatingly persistent belief in his own right to victory, Tebow looks heroic.

For some people, however, Tebow has become a lightning rod for controversy — and not because they are die-hard Chiefs fans. Forget about Michael Vick, Adam “Pacman” Jones and Plaxico Burress. For what may be the first time, an NFL player has earned the distaste of detractors — from sanctimonious sportswriters who would likely hide behind Tebow if they faced a jailbreak blitz on third-and-long to smug liberals who watch soccer and call football “American football,” despite having never ventured farther east than Martha’s Vineyard — not for being a bad player, but for being a good guy.

Tebow displays more than merely a burning desire to win football games. He displays a surplus of something the aforementioned folks lack: character. As witnessed during his infamous Super Bowl ad a couple of years ago, Tebow — himself nearly a victim of abortion — is unabashedly pro-life. As witnessed every time he runs over some undersized safety at the goal line, Tebow is also unabashedly open about his faith. We should be thankful he is so devout. Imagine the horror if “Vicking” became a meme instead of “Tebowing.” (And imagine the PETA protests at NFL functions.)

Tebow is no paper-thin theologist who praises Jesus on his way to the strip club; his off-seasons are filled instead with mission work to places where the Son of Man himself is less than revered. If only Tebow spent his summers unwinding with a nice puppy-lynching or nightclub shooting, Broncos’ owner Pat Bowlen might have earned a congratulatory phone call from President Obama — much like Eagles’ owner Jeff Lurie did following his decision to allow Vick a second chance. Instead, Tebow is vilified by people who normally wile away their Sundays reading The New York Times style section, looking for another photo of Barbra Streisand to add to their scrapbooks.

Tebow is no second coming — not even of Joe Montana. In fact, he might not even be the second coming of Trent Dilfer. If he were more circumspect about his life off the gridiron, he would garner less attention than — say — Joe Flacco. In the interest of full disclosure, I am no Broncos fan. I will root against them with the volume of a Papal Mass in St. Peter’s Square should they ever meet my Giants on the field. I’ll also be fair and note that some people despise Tebow either because he went to Florida and they’re Georgia fans, or because he quarterbacks the Broncos and they’re Raiders fans (who pretty much hate everyone).

Liberals hate Tebow for his full-throated acknowledgement that his talents, like all of our lives, are a gift from the Almighty. I respect him for actually working to be the sort of role model the NFL seldom features but ought to. But Broncos fans have a better idea about Tebow than either the liberals or me: They love him because he’s 7-1 as a Sunday starter.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Karolyn

    Wow! Despite my feelings about a lot of what Ben writes, we do have something in common! We are both Giants fans! And, for the record, luck has nothing to do with winning.

    • http://personallibertydigest michael

      Go Giants.. and God bless TIM. Lol

  • borderlinedevill

    god bless tebow and may he have awesome success ib life

  • Karolyn

    What is the big deal? There have always been players who kneel after making a big play or cross themselves or look to heaven in thanks. Why the uproar over this guy. Also, where does Ben get the opinion that liberals “hate” Tebow? Strong word to use. Just another ploy to keep the devisiveness going.

    • Alex

      Yep.

      • Robert

        Obvious that you and Karolyn do little Sports writer reading, for many of your mentally distraught liberal whiners such as yourselves do in fact show their ignorance and jealousies such as yourselves of a person that doesn’t just hit a knee but publicly gives all the Glory for his success to our God and Savior Jesus Christ who sacrificed his life through great suffering even for the likes of Nay Sayers such as yourself! And that is the Big deal whether you accept it or recognize it or not!

        • Karolyn

          I said nothing against the guy or what he believes. I say “Good for him!” As far as whiners go, I sure hear a lot more of that from the right side of the fence!

          • Robert

            That is where you leftist got it all wrong you just are not open minded enough to admit when you are wrong,and your eyesight is near and cannot see the forest for the trees! We are not whiners but those that tell the painful truth that those of you with the closed minds and hearts cannot abide with!

          • Old Henry

            Right side of the fence? That would depend entirely on which end of the fence you are facing…

          • Karolyn

            Robert – Right back at’cha!

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you robert. They never seem to grow up and understand.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Joe H.

            karolyn,
            I used to be a rabid Lions fan. In 68 I took in over 1000 dollars on them. BETTING AGAINST THEM! I found later, that there were things that are much more omportant and I rarely watch the games unless I’m at my father in laws. BTW the Giants and the Broncos Are only going as far as the play-offs. The Packers are unstopable this year!!! 13 and 0!!!

    • Shane

      You have every right to your opinion. No bad wishes wished your way. But you’re statement is wrong. Easily proven wrong. It may be your ignorance of what has been transpiring the last few months. (I’m very ingorant on the in’s and out’s of brain surgery.) So I’m not calling you stupid. Ignorance can usually easily be corrected. Stupid is much harder, and sometimes not possible to correct. Then again, just possibly, your not ignorant concerning your statement. Then malaice and hate would be the most likely purpose for your statement. For I don’t believe in the least bit that your stupid. Which leave the two options quoted earlier in this comment.

  • http://comcast JimBob

    The liberal media hates Tebow because he represents something they can never aspire to: honest faith. It is no one’s business but his if he says a quiet prayer to his Savior. I have no doubt his prayers are not about winning, but for the safety of his fellow players on both sides of the ball. I guess if he hung around Jill’s Lounge like some crybaby Steeler QB I know of, he’d be all the rage. Tebow doesn’t need hope; the liberal media does.

    • Dave

      The “liberal” sports media is all I have heard is belittling him. His throwing motion is one reason he has to run so much. Bodies get in the way.
      Sad that you have to lump all media into a hate group. That is not the case. Never is on most topics. Just your vision of the world through your, and some others, eyes.

      • Karolyn

        A big AMEN to that!

      • eddie47d

        The real losers are those who attack Liberals at a drop of a hat. Since I live in Denver and actually watch the Broncos I think that the author is fishing for excuses to stoke his ego. I much rather watch Tebow bow to the Lord than do gyrations and the end of the field as some players do. My wife and I also liked quarterback Cutler and weren’t to sure about all the Tebow hype. He does seem to genuine and true to his beliefs and that does count in life. We’ve had our share of controversy with Bronco players(not all good)so Tebow can be a breath of fresh air in decent behavior. Is he the greatest thing since peanut butter? Not yet and he has his share of fumbles and seems to lack drive at the start of the games. Winning in the last few minutes can be a marvelous feeling for the fans but it keeps us on the edge of our seats too. Time will tell if these wins are real or just last minute flukes.One thing for sure Tebow has that “old school” spirit that many yearn for and God Bless him.

        • Alex

          Thank you, eddie47d.
          The idea that Liberals or any group other than anti-Bronco or anti-Gator
          rooters hates Tim Tebow is but another silly and stupid remark by one of the Kings of Haters, Ben Crystalnacht.
          By the way, Tebow is very very far from the first athlete to give praise to Jesus Christ or any other God or Great Being. In fact, for decades many Black athletes have done exactly that, Crystal’s thinly-veiled poke at them be damned.

          • Madmel

            I can’t see why these forums can’t be used for what the subject matter is about. We are in an explosive time right now and is not the time for pointing fingers because a man wishes to give credit to God for what he accomplishes. War’s my dear people are fought for two reasons either ideology or religions and it is basically based on “I don’t want to believe what you believe.” I am registered as Undeclared because I find that both major parties are not doing what they are sworn to do and that is Representing the People. That is you and I, boys and girls. I am a redneck and damned proud of it. I fought in the war of the 60′s and 70′s and was treated like dirt when I came back. Am I bitter? I was then but like most people I got over it. Let’s quit calling each other names and go on to the subject at hand.

            I am a Denver fan and like Teebow. I also like the Pats and the Packers and if they are playing, the wood doesn’t get carried in till it is over. That is saying something for an Alaskan. At the same time I enjoy watching Rogers and Brady play. Teebow makes a lot of mistakes but he seems to be able to pull it out in the last 15 minutes. Give the guy credit. Denver is a winning team right now and if they get by the Pats this weekend, he will have accomplished something else. Let us leave our petty differences aside and enjoy the game that most of us love and quit trying to politicize everything.

          • http://naver sook young

            You are right about a few things Alex. Other players have done these things and some are minority players, but then why is the media bad mouthing Tebow? Is it because he gives all the credit to God and Jesus, not the team? Is it because he doesn’t sound big headed and sound like he won the game for the team? We can’t do anything without God and Jesus helping us. If you can’t understand that, then you can’t understand life and what they have for us. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert

        While I agree that his passing form is not the greatest that I have seen It appears that he gets the job done!!!!! And further more to you and Karolynn who died an left you as expert Quarterback Coaches or critics! Or maybe it’s good ole liberal whining due to the fact that it is not your team that got all the recognition!

        • eddie47d

          I don’t know of any sports fan that doesn’t think they know more than the next person. That’s no big deal.

          • Joe H.

            besides, eddie knows more about EVERYTHING than EVERYBDY!!!

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Eddie, but I’m a football fan. I do not pretend to know more than anybody, because I watch the games and don’t know any stats. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Old Henry

        I do not follow sports at all, but I do wonder what in the world Tebow’s throwing style has to do with the price of eggs. It seems to get the job done and in the end that is all that counts. The Lord makes it work for him.

        From what I gleen from Ben’s article, and the comments, sprots writers sound like the cry-baby political pundits. If it does not “fit their mold” it can’t be correct.

    • BSG

      I would say that the liberal media is bewildered by Tebow because they don’t have a concept that there is a superior being to which we owe our gratitude. They were trained up in humanism where the human is supreme and owes no allegiance to anything or anyone. So for someone who is “normal” to actually do that is really bizarre in their minds. Yet when Mohammad Ali thanked Allah after every fight that was accepted and considered a quaint trait, because after all “those” people had strange beliefs that one shouldn’t belittle or denigrate.

      • Alex

        What?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Cassius Clay joined the Nation of Islam (a black hate group) to get out of the draft, pure and simple. Islam is cult, not a religion and should not be compared to Christianity.

        • http://naver sook young

          This is so true and thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

        • Joe H.

          CAB,
          Give him credit. At least he went to jail for what he believed. It’s those other cowards that ran to Canada to avoid the draft and then came back with their tail between their legs under Carter that I denegrate!!

      • eddie47d

        Clay strongly opposed the Vietnam War and stood up for those beliefs and how the black man at that times shouldn’t have to fight a “white man’s” war without any changes in the entrenched racism that permeated society. His point was well taken and America did start to change. Blacks also fought in WWII and then had to come back to segregation and Clay didn’t think another generation should have to go through that again.

      • Robert

        Do you have the slightest idea what you are talking about for many of us are lost try to expound will you!?

        • eddie47d

          I was wondering why so many of you are confused over historical issues but now I know.

        • Joe H.

          Robert,
          Get ready, cuz it almost NEVER happens. I agree with eddie on Ali. He gave up his title in the coveted heavyweight class and went to jail to stand up for what he believed!! He stayed here and took his medicine. The others, however left the country, lived high on the hog, partied, and then when Carter offered them amnesty, came back and licked his hand!! cowards ALL!!

    • Robert

      Hallaleuyah JimBob I have a congrats and thanks for you and your write, and your Right!

  • Tazio2013

    RE: “… his talents, like all of our lives, are a gift from the Almighty.”

    Does you include the lives of Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Gingrich, Gacy, Speck and the vast majority of the Republikrat congress as gifts from the Almighty?

    • Dan

      God gives us our gifts. It is up to us to use them to honor him. We have the choice to do evil with them also. Tebow uses his gifts from God to honor and give glory to God.

      • KUSA

        amen

        • eddie47d

          KUSA is a TV outlet in Denver. Have a great day.

    • Karolyn

      I would say yes.

    • Klaus

      So you place Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld and Gingrich, who did not murder anyone, with the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, who did. And I can already predict your response, Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld killed all these Iraqi’s. That was a war, and people get killed, most of the fatalities by their own countrymen, al Queda, and other assorted terrorists. While I dislike us getting into these conflicts, at least so far we have not murdered our own, as Hitler, Stalin, and others have done. So you comparison of these people is just plain idiotic.

      • Tazio2013

        Does the Almighty differentiate between types of murderers? You may wish to review the Ten Cs re war-mongering and premeditated murder.

        • Dagney

          Sorry, but you are all projecting. War causes death, but if the intent is to liberate masses, then there is justification. However, the war on babies goes on unabated by the left, progressives, leftists, socialists, Marxists, communists all. Please give me the justification for that? Please, also, explain to us all how many dissenters have Capitalists MURDERED? We can document how many dissenters LEFTISTS have MURDERED, can we not???

        • fedup

          Why didn’t you lump Obama/Biden in there? Or did you not notice the conflicts they have started? Another one-sider wanting to protect what he thinks is justified because of the “D” where it says party affiliation.

        • Robert

          No Tazio2013 the almighty does not differentiate in fact try a little relaxation reading of a bible and you will find that the almighty does not classify sin for sin is sin and all have sinned for we are weak and he is as you say the Almighty God and Creator. We may be just as those you named can be forgiven their sins only if we all meet certain criterior. If you need help sincerely with this answer take it to the Lord and you if sincere will get an answer! But you can also rest assured that those who have sinned that do not turn their lives to the Lord and receive the Saving Grace they will suffer or and eternity! And be assured that you have sinned and in as much you also are as guilty as the afore named persons of Government!

        • KUSA

          see, there is differences between killing and murder.

      • Robert

        This was before your time and mine but you are wrong Klaus for in fact the Civil war was just such an event where in fact we did kill our own and it is one of our Saddest moments as a Nation. It was not in fact over Slavery as is popularly promoted but the real cause of the War an all wars was Economics (Money) and if you will check it out closely it is the root of all wars but you have read the whole story not just lines you want to read leaving out what you do not want to read! “The root of all wars are the also the root of all evil the love of Riches(money)!”

        • KUSA

          Hey, I know many poor who love the money. Money comes and goes. Root of the evil is not having money but love them. The rich, I know few manage money better that poor. They also give jobs and contributing to inventions.

          • Dave

            You are stupid if that is what you believe.

          • http://naver sook young

            Why do you personally attack him when he is right? I’ve seen so many poor addicted to drugs, alcohol, and cigarettes and will always spend on them and not on food. You are right KUSA and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Joe H.

            sook young,
            samurai has a very wise wife, I hope he treats you as such!! could it be he has learned a little from you??? God Bless you BOTH!!

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you Joe H. Samurai is a very good husband and he treats me like a queen. We’ve been happily married for 26 years, on December 2 this year. We are very happy and blessed by God. I wish the same to you and your wife. May you have many more years together and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • duaner

      You are confused. It should be the democraps and their ilk.

    • http://naver sook young

      Why did you forget Obama and Holder? Doesn’t what happened to that agent count as murder? I guess my husband would call you a sheeple. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Ellen

    It is no secret that most people in the media are liberals and most liberals are atheists. It is ridiculous that they have criticized Tebow so much about his odd throwing motion considering his proven success. His winning streak makes his critics look like fools. Being a Seminole, I’ve always rooted against the Gators and still do. That has no bearing on Tebow’s talent and his unwarranted criticism. Why does our media insist on idolizing evil (Vick) or promoting a false image (Tiger woods)? Worse, why do people listen to this crap?

    • Karolyn

      I take issue with “all liberals are ahteists.” Where does that come from? Do you have factual stats, or is this just hearsay as usual? Yes, I have known liberal atheists; however, I have known just as many liberal believers in God, whether Christian or otherwise. People who are not Christians are not godless.

      • Dagney

        Liberalism, like all lefism is the ideaology of death. See my post above. If a Liberal CLAIMS to be a Christian, they are deluding themselves and, really, not many others.

        • Karolyn

          You are sadly deluded, Dagney. It seems to me that too many people make generalizations based on only what they are fed by their chosen “gurus” because they are afraid to even investigate what is written and reported by the other “side.” I have seen it over and over. Even when I post a link by a left-leaning writer that agrees with a conservative view, no one will read it. Are they afraid they will be proven wrong? That, to me, is a sign of a closed mind.

          • Dagney

            Your leftism is so sadly ingrained it is obvious you are the one deluded. Please try to look at and understand HISTORY and the big picture. The feelings of superiority you garner from your so-called “compassion” delude you into thinking you are in the right. Yet, you turn away from the OBVIOUS consequences of the actions of the left. It is a battle between good and evil and if you don’t make any effort to understand that, you are evil yourself. It is all cut and dried, there is no middle.

          • Dagney

            I happen to enjoy reading any articles where someone has finally seen the light. I get much enjoyment seeing someone make the effort to see through the cloud of lies that is liberalism.

          • eddie47d

            Like the author you are only promoting an agenda Dagney and are full of lopsided bluster and downright evil thoughts yourself. You are a divider in your extremes and can’t see beyond your own falsehoods. If you really saw good and evil you would be demanding more accountability on Wall Street and in the banking industry. If you are claiming self righteousness then you would tackle the inside trading that goes on with Hedge Fund managers and not just among those in Washington. You wouldn’t be invested in any Big Pharma company who has been ripping off the American people for at least 3 decades. Unless you truly demanded reform from their gouging and fought for a level playing field. If not then you allowed evil to take place. If you jumped into the housing market to make a kill knowing that something was wrong with what was happening then you are no saint. If you willing evaded taxes or used a loophole to enhance your own lifestyle then you are not a good decent American.(I’m not talking about a legitimate tax protest).If you support a business that enjoys the freedoms in America but hides it’s money off shore while someone else has to pay more then that is a form of evil. If you openly hate an American Muslim because of what a Muslim from another country did then you need to take that beam out of your Christian eye. If you are a Christian Fundamentalist who openly threaten the lives of gays as those American Christians did in Uganda then you are no Christian. If you want to incarcerate a pot smoker but kick back and drink a six pack of Budweiser then you are a hypocrite and need to stay out of church. Unless you are repenting for all your subtle sins. Yet if you Pray on Sunday and then go out and do business with a bankster on Monday then maybe evil has taken over your goodness. Are Liberals sinners? Absolutely! Are Conservatives sinners? Absolutely! I do believe most Christians try harder than non believers to be good and lead respectable lives and Tebow is a fine example. Yet I have seen pure evil come from Conservative Christians who spread hate like a prairie wildfire. Their false Superiority can be hidden well even when it is in plain site.

          • Karolyn

            Bravo, Eddie! (hands clapping!)

          • KUSA

            yea, many “Christians” are confused socialists.

          • Dagney

            That is what is so infuriating about leftists. They whine and complain about others and then whine and complain when people point out how wrong they are and say WE are being judgemental. Business isn’t evil for being business and in it for “profit”. People can choose whether or not to do business with them. Government and the people AND THE BUSINESSES who use it like you do are the very embodiment of evil. You whine at governmnet to do something about “EVIL” business. Then government uses the FORCE OF LAW (that they write in their and their cronies favor) to get compliance from people. The answer to all our problems is ALWAYS less government, not more. If you don’t understand that, you are either evil and want the power over people that government can give you or, you are seriously delusional.

          • speedle

            Geez Karolyn and Eddie, this becomes such a tiring argument. try to absorb this. Christians as a group do not (or would not) condon or support any “radical” Christian group (real or imagined) that sought to commit mass murder in the name of their religion. Such a scenario simply does not exist.

            THEREFORE…………followers of Christianity (or Judaism) cannot be reasonably compared with followers of Islam (who are almost universally unwilling to even strongly discredit the radicals – much less become proactive in bringing them to justice).

            Your attempt at a bit of politically correct analogy just doesn’t ring true. Islam is for the most part a stone age faith whose tenets are not compatible with advanced society (unless you think women are on the same social level as Fido or Tweety Bird, and killing infidels is righteous).

          • eddie47d

            …and you obviously turn away from the consequences coming from the right.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Eddie, but you can’t be a Christian and a liberal at the same time. Many of the liberal and progressive views are the opposite of what it says in the Bible. I know that God does not tollerate abortion, homosexual lifestyle, and socialism as a political concept. Ask my pastor and he’ll tell you the same thing. How are the beattitudes liberal? It says that if you do these things, this will be given to you. This does not sound liberal to me. Liberal is taking money from one person and giving it to another, without a choice. This does not sound like anything I’ve read in the bible. Please read the Bible and find out what it says and not from a liberal point of view. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Alex

          Jesus was a Liberal, Dagney. Or didn’t you read the Sermon on the Mount?

          • Dagney

            I’m sure you are referring to classical liberalism, which is more like today’s conservatism, not the atrocity that is today’s liberalism. Your argument does not wash.

          • eddie47d

            The Beatitudes are very Liberal. Most people look at the Old Testament as Conservative,historical and strict. Most look at the New Testament as more open to change and more Liberal in interpretation. All books in the Bible are important and God wants all people to embrace his word. I doubt if God is out there condemning Liberals and shutting them out.That would go against His own teachings. God is more concerned about sin and wrong doings and shows no favor to Liberals or Conservatives who do wrong.

          • http://naver sook young

            Jesus was no liberal, just as you don’t seem to be a Christian. Jesus said that we should do things the ways of God in Heaven. This is not liberal. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Karolyn, show me where Ellen says “all liberals are ahteists.”.

        • Karolyn

          She said “most” – “It is no secret that most people in the media are liberals and most liberals are atheists.”

          • Buster the Anatolian

            Exactly she said most not ALL as you quoted her to say.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you for proving Ellen right.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Sheldon

            You’re all playing word games. Ellen said “most liberals are atheists”. By definition, “MOST” can be defined as anywhere from 51% to 99%, because most implies a majority which means greater that 50% but less than 100% which would be “ALL”. Therefore Ellen needs to define her definition of what she means when she states as a fact that “most liberals are atheists”. Does Ellen mean 51%? 75%? 99%? What exactly does Ellen mean?

            The problem is simply this… Ellen’s statement is pure bull. It’s statistically impossible. The US population is anywhere from 9% to 15% atheist, depending on the study. The last three elections showed the US democratic popular vote was 48.38% (Gore-2000), 48.3% (Kerry – 2004) and 52% (Obama -2008). If one could assume that NOT A SINGLE Republican was an atheist, we still can’t get 15% of the atheist population to represent a majority of the 48% of the population that is Democratic (liberal). You’re all quick to criticize Karolyn for misquoting of “MOST” by typing “ALL”, but no one has questioned the fallacious statement put forward by Ellen in the first place. It is a nothing but a wild boast that MOST atheists are Liberals. You can’t have honest debate without honesty.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Sheldon, but most liberals are atheists as their beliefs are opposite of what is written in the Bible. You say that 9% – 15% of this country is atheist? Could you show a source that would prove this to be true? Many of the polls say that only 2% of the country is atheist and 80% of Americans are Christian or at least believe in God. Since you are an atheist, I thought you would do better than to post a long rant. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Sheldon

            Sook… try google or wikipedia it’s all there.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            Sheldon you are the one making the claim you provide the proof.

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you Buster.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

    • Alex

      Curious that Ellen points out both Vick and Woods for their terrible behavior, with no mention of, say, Ben Rothlisberger or Mark McGwire. I have a fence she can whitewash.

      • http://naver sook young

        She also didn’t mention Barry Bonds, Andre Rison, or Carruth, so what are you trying to say exactly? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

  • Tazio2013

    “Do” not “Does”

    • Pat Bright

      Good. Now correct the rest of your BS statement.

      • Tazio2013

        “Tis a pity you can’t handle a bit of objective reality.

        • http://naver sook young

          If it is liberal or unchristian, then it is not any kind of reality. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

        • Joe H.

          Taz,
          You wouldn’t know objective if it slaped you down, picked youup, and kicked you full in BOTH cheeks!!!

  • http://carlson.textcashnetwork.com Donny C

    Tim Tebow backs up his actions, even he said God does not care who wins a football game. He is true to what he believes and to who he is. Maybe we all should think and act more like a TEBOW.
    donny

    • Robert

      Donny C I do so agree and Amen to what you have said it is a shame that we all do not act according to the instructions and this is not an excuse just a fact of persons that we are all different but we must strive in our lives to live as Jesus Christ has instructed us Loving one another and forgiving one another as he loves and forgives us if we confess him before men and ask for this forgiveness! For if we are ashamed of him then he likewise will be ashamed of us before his Father!

  • Mike from Colorado

    Whether he wins or loses NFL is just a game, but the wonderful role model he is for our kids and grandkids is where he excels in my mind. There are so many “slugs” in professional sports it is so refreshing to see a young man with such committment and devotion to his fellow man through his faith and love for OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST. Two years out of college and he is building a hospital in remote parts of the world along with all his other foundation endeavors. GOD BLESS, TIM TEBOW and may he be protected from injury in his very unorthodox style of play and from all the demons out to injure him.

    • Jerry

      Tim Tebow is an excellent role model. It’s sad to know that men of his character are few, especially in the professional sports world.

  • Mike from Colorado

    In my mind, he is NFL’s MVP for his being a role model to our kids.

    • Robert

      Yes Mike and I also am proud to see this being brought back into the Sport. For this is part of Sportmanship to my way of thinking. For it is truly just a game (a very enjoyable one I might add) but still just a game!

  • anthony703

    Everyone, good and and bad, has a God given talent to use for good or I’ll. How they then use that talent–their choice–not Gods.

    • http://naver sook young

      If they use their talents for something not good, then it is not God’s will, but the ways of satan. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Jon Odom

    I wish Tim Tebo all the success his GOD given talent can get him.
    I appreciate his witness and pray it will be a blessing to many.

  • LibRep

    7-1, huh? Wow.

    Say, isn’t there a quarterback in Wisconsin (my homeland, birthplace of the Republican Party) that has helped lead his team to 13-0, so far?

    • Mike from Colorado

      There sure is and a darn good one, but Tebow’s impact occurs well beyond the achievements on teh gridiron. Although from Colorado I am originally from New England and the Patriots seem to have an outstanding QB as well, but in teh off season you don’t hear about what he is dong.

  • Bonnie

    The world is a better place because Tim Tebow is in it. How refreshing it is to have a person like him for young people, old people,and everyone inbetween to look up to.

    • bob

      well said bonnie

  • TJB

    You can be a great role model without pushign yoru faith on everyoen else that doesn’t want to hear it. Character and morals are nto exclusive to Christians. I commned Tim for being a great role model and walking the talk. But how much of his kneeling on the field, public prayers and putting bible verses on his face is just antics to draw attention and say “look at me”?! He could just as easily say whatever prayers in a manner that no one else even knows he is doing it. Why all the need to SHOW everyone?

    • Tom

      TJB, that was well written for a psuedo-intellectual liberal who can only parrot the talking heads on MSM news! It could hurt a little, but try having an original thought!

      • Dave

        shut up Tom. Your a disgrace to rational thought.

        • http://naver sook young

          I don’t see any rational thought in this post of yours. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

    • http://naver sook young

      What a childish thing to say. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

    • Joe H.

      TJB,
      In the Bible, it says not to hide your light under a basket but to let it shine for ALL to see. Tebow is just following Gods wishes. Does that bother you? WELLLLLL TOUGH!!

  • bob

    I believe the reason that he mentioned liberals, for the reason its liberals, who are constantly trying to do away with anything religious in our beliefs in this country, whether its bill mahr, from HBO, or the president himself obama, who stated all of our traditions and religious beliefs will have to change, liberals are constantly attacking anything christian in this country, they won’t attack muslim, beliefs, but its ok to have a display of jesus in a museum diplayed upside down in urine, we will no longer be the silent majority, nov 2012 the country is going to find out how many christians there are in america.

  • Larry

    So this means we should idolize those with the earrings, tattoos all over and dreadlocks hanging out of their helmets. I think I prefer someone who is the real deal instead of some phony freak of nature!

    • Karolyn

      What someone wears or how he styles his hair means nothing. You can’t judge a book by its cover.

      • Larry

        No but the media can ridicule the likes of Tebow who is a much better role model to emulate.

      • libertytrain

        I agree Karolyn but I also agree that the media is one of the biggest offenders of all.

      • http://naver sook young

        People didn’t judge Hitler or Stalin and look what happened. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        • Sheldon

          Sook Young… “People didn’t judge Hitler or Stalin”?
          There were stalags and gulags full of people who judged Hitler and Stalin. Thousands were executed on the mere suspicion that they were judging Hitler and Stalin. Your comment is absolutely asinine and offensive.

          • http://naver sook young

            Many people were killed by Hitler and Stalin that were close associates of theirs also, so why do you lie and then attack me? You are the one that is asinine. I don’t usually use those words, because they are used by less intelligent liberals and stheists to get someone’s reaction. It seems that you don’t know that much about history, so maybe you should talk to my husband. Unlike you, he is a real historian, hero, and man. Please roll over and try to go back to sleep. Your post is like one who is dreaming. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • Don

    TBJ, Maybe the same reason the Muzzies kneel when ever they do their crap, and you can look the other way

  • Nick Jumangit

    I live in Colorado Springs, Colorado. I nevwer liked the Broncos (since I was originally from San Francisco), but because the team had that other coach, who had a ‘big head’, who unceremoniously booted out quarterback Jay Cutler, in favor of Kyle Orlon. The team never got anywhere. Then this new coach made things happen when Tebow became the starting quaterback. Although, I’m still rooting for my SF 49′rs to be in the finals, I’m now also hoping that the Denver Broncos will make it, because of their quarterback! Dod Bless him!

  • Bonnie

    TJB, All Christians are called to “Go out and spread the Good News.” Their are many different ways do this. The most important and powerful way is to live each day according to what Jesus taught. Tim Tebow is in a somewhat unique position, being in the public eye, to show his honor of God in his daily life… to millions of people. He is more visible and much more brave than most of us. That is probably why he SHOWS everyone.

    • Alex

      Wrong. Very few Christian “live each day according to what Jesus taught”, not by a long shot.
      As has been pointed out so often, the ONLY thing we know for sure that Jesus H. Christ taught was the Sermon on the Mount—that is the ONLY thing HE had recorded and which recording HE accepted, not what Matt or John or Paul or Thomas or Freida or ANYONE ELSE had to say.
      So, Bonnie, show me the Christians who live each day according to what JESUS taught, not some “minister” or “priest”.

      • http://naver sook young

        What a hate filled rant. Do you really expect intellectual people to respond to such rubbish? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        • Alex

          Hate filled?

          • http://naver sook young

            First, it is Jesus Christ and there id no “H”. The only time I heard someone say “H” in his name was if someone was angry or saying bad words. Second, he did say the beatitudes, but he said so many more teachings. Tis true there are some Christians that are Christians in name only, but there are many who do what they can to live the way God and Jesus say to do it. We all have human failings, but God and Jesus don’t tell us to be perfect, just only to try. Why do you always say about the Bible being written by men? The men that wrote the Bible were different then the ones that wrote the Quar’an, Mein Kampf, The Communist Manifesto, Saul Alinksy, and even Obama. Please stop trying to compare the Bible to other books. Sorry for saying hate filled. I made a mistake. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • Joe H.

        Alex,
        HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD??? The Bible was written with DEVINE guidance from God himself!! Course, I know that’s a little too much for your abilities to accept, but try to retain it this time, OK??

        • Sheldon

          So was the Qu’ran and the Book of Mormon. Actually, if you want to go with the “Divine Inspiration” argument, it would be more likely that the Qu’ran and the Book of Mormon were dictated by God because these books only had one humanly author. Biblical scholars do not deny that the Bible (New Testament) has had many authors from different centuries.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry, but all the authors of the New Testiment were of the same century. How can you compare books of false faiths, like the Quar’an and the Book of Mormon, to be inspired by God as the Bible is? You really need to grow up and try to use what little intellec you may possess. As my husband would say “Need to be making that popping noise.” You are nothing but an antagonist. They tend to be less intelligent. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

  • Doc Adrian

    They are just afraid of what Tebow and other Christians stand for. The liberal media must debunk it, out of fear. If Christian can reclaim this nation, Founded on God and Christian beliefs, then a true period of persecution will arise. The political helm of this nation is currently operating under false pretenses, lies, deceit, and unaccountable greed! It is refreshing to see Tebow’s light illuminate in our darkend world. He is disliked because he demonstrates a true love for the Lord through upstanding morals, values, judgement and character traits. He must be doing something right, Let the attacks come!

    • Dave

      Listen to your innerself and stay in th edark. you are an idiot and we all know that now.

      • http://naver sook young

        And you are an atheist. Being an atheist automatically makes you ignorant, for you know not what your master is trying to do through you. We were founded a Christian nation, so please take your displaced anger and go take a hike. Sorry if I was rude, but I am correct on my conclusions. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        • libertytrain

          Sook, I think that was rude. Why would you go out of your way to insult someone like that. Bad for your reputation.

          • libertytrain

            yes, I do realize he tried to insult you but you are a bigger person than to play back into his hands.

      • Joe H.

        WHOOOOO!!Hey Dave, hows it feel to be slapped down by the little lady??? Way to go Sook Young!!!

        • http://naver sook young

          Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

  • SimonJester

    Mr. Tebow isn’t ‘working to be the sort of role model the NFL seldom features but ought to’. Mr. Tebow is a very public figure simply living his Christian life in public. That Ben Crystal respects him for this is to Mr. Crystal’s credit. That Mr. Tebow is vilified and ridiculed in the MSM for living his Christian life in public says much more about those who vilify him than it does about Mr. Tebow.

  • http://? Chris

    What a breath of fresh air. Even though I have never been very religous myself, it is good to have a athlete with morals that the kids can look up to. It makes me mad that he is receiving so much negative media attention. I guess if he was kiling helpless animals or killed the baby mama,or a shoot out in a night club, or so on and so on, then maybe the media would paint him in a better light.

    • Joe H.

      Chris,
      you forgot the one that drunk drove and killed a guy in Florida and got off scott free!!

  • Capitalist at Birth

    I will root for the Denver Broncos because of Tim Tebow, even thought I have been a Green Bay Packers fan since 1955. I also rooted for the St. Louis Rams when Dick Vermeil was the head coach and Kurt Warner was the quarterback. Kurt Warner also wore his religion on his sleeve, and walked the walk just like Tebow. Issac Bruce was another Ram who did the same. These are the people who should be held up as role models for our young, for now and forever. None of the Vicks, Rothlesbergers, or any one of their ilk should be celebrated in manner. Way to go, Ben.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    I forgot to mention Roger Staubauch and Aaron Rodgers.

  • Bonnie

    Alex, I said that Christians are CALLED to “Go out and spread the Good news.” Just because most of us fall far short of the Call does not change what Jesus asked us to do. I am sorry that you have not met many who have been successful. I am happy to report that in my 60 years as a Catholic I have lived with many, many people who strive each day to answer the Call. They were just regular people helping to take care of the poor, the aged, women in crisis pregancies, people who come to the church’s food pantries, the homebound etc… They were not perfect, but we were all trying to live what He said in the beatitudes.

    • Robert

      Bonnie while I am not Catholic I am a Christian and what you wrote was well said and also true! Perhaps it is those that feel that it is being an eye sore to them what Tim does to Glorify Jesus, they may be feeling a little lost and do not know where or how to turn their hardened Hearts! And too at the very least if they would learn to live and let live they might not have these problems with others openly giving vent to their true faith!!!

    • http://naver sook young

      This is true and may God bless you this Christmas season. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Dave

    If all the “Good” Christians would take up the example that Tebow is exuding this should be a very good Christmas for us all.
    According to statements made here, the “Majority” of Americans are Christian. As is their charge in life to help others in time of need I hope to see all of you giving time and/or donations to the responsible charitable organizations that do the “good” work. Places like Salvation Army, the St. Vincent DePaul kitchens, places that actually share the majority of their funds to those in need,above 80%. Stop wasting money to “profiteers” like United Way and Goodwill. Too much administrative costs taking away from people in need.
    Get out and directly lift someones spirits this holiday season.
    Try the various volunteer outfits and not just on Christmas and Thanksgiving. These people are out there all year long. Go directly to them and do a good deed.
    On top of the handing over of money you give to the “wealthy” church you go to. Something you know will be received by the distressed party.
    And stop all this bickering about who’s a liberal and who’s more conservative. That is the most inconsequential thing to yell t each other about.

  • http://explorer Scout

    I could care less about high dollar sports. As far as i’m concerned, They’ve priced themselves out of the business and NEVER conduct themselves in a sportsmanship manor.It’s all about winning damn the cost. Steroids, drugs, lies and cheating is all ok. Just win the game for more money to teammates and coaches.

    • eddie47d

      The Denver Nuggets signed Nene to a five year contract worth $67 million and they still don’t expect that to win them the championship. They all get paid too much and are just plain full of it.There is not a darn one of them worth anywhere near that kind of money.

      • hitthedeck

        eddie–can we expect the OWS mob start shutting down NFL games in the future? It might be possible that these players have reached the 1% level. It could also be possible that the end zone may be occupied in the future. Maybe not, I forget that pissed of football fans would probably put a lot of OWS people in ICU.

  • jonwon

    What is the difference when baseball players cross themselves or point to the sky when they hit a home run, make a good play, etc. I rather see Tim Tebow’s expression than watching “Dancing With The Stars” after a touchdown.

  • http://GBVieto@hotmail.com George B Vieto

    I have seen sports stories on NFL Films saying all great quarterbacks inspire their teammates to play better and will them to believe they can beat their opponents in any given game. Tim Tebow is hated because he is not a quote machine that uses profanity after his team loses a game or has a meltdown that makes it on Sportscenter.

  • jopa

    jonwon I must agree with you on that one.They should reprimand the cameraman for giving these show off idiots air time.Sometimes I think its fine but some just go overboard.

  • hitthedeck

    It all comes down to two things and that is letting Tim Tebow mind his own business along with other people minding their own business.

    It’s hard to do both when you have the gossip boosting media flooding the airwaves to drown those people who can’t keep their heads above the waves.

  • hitthedeck

    Can we expect to see the OWS mob shutting down NFL games in the future? It might be possible that these players have reached the 1% level. It could also be possible the end zone may be occupied in the future. Maybe not, I forget that a pissed of football fan would probably put a lot of OWS people in ICU.

  • Bumba

    eagles fan here. broncos are my top ten fav and respected teams now (steelers 2nd), im also not religous, i diched that 2 years ago. But whats so awesome is that this guys is winning in streaks right off the bat. Teh broncos weren’t pumped with orton, but with a new qb, they get energized. If he can get good enough soon, he’ll be the fastets to beat everyone. But ill suspect people will then say he sucks and can’t win games when they eventually lose. Don’t say i didn’t warn ya.

  • John Burleson

    I’d like each and every whiner out there to know that Mr. Tebow is actually saying “Hot diggidy damn, Allah, we screwed ‘em again!!” The only reason he ain’t in the mole-hole sniffing position is because nobody will bring him a blankie to kneel on. I am continuously surprized that when up against a drought of things to whine about, moon bats will make something up. I also point out that just like PETA won’t attack Hells Angels for wearing animal skins, moon bats will not whine about Islam. Maybe us Christians can learn a little from the Prophet, as in a good hard kick in the direction of the moon bat’s nether region(s) and then ask the question “How do you like me now…?”

    John Burleson, I fear no scum–come and complain about my Creshe, please.

    • http://naver sook young

      How can we respond to you when you make no sense? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • Carol

    I had to go back and read the article again. The comments so many like eddie74 made had no relation to what Ben Crystal said. I had to make sure I had read it correctly. Now, my brother and I could be called rabid 49er fans, and have been from the “git-go”. But we both are watching Tim Tebow and think he’s great. More power to him.

  • Ridge Runner

    I don’t watch as much feet ball as i used to bu i still enjoy watching a good agood game i don’t care who is playing and it is a demanding game and the players have to be rugded and devoted.this i can apprecate.If tebow is a devoted christian then he is most likely a honest and trust worthy person and i had rather have him walking by my side than 10,000 other people walking behind me.There is just too many people now days that you can’t trust.I don’t want to read or hear any one maning fun of him for giving thanks to our maker for being able to playfoot ball or kust to be in good health.If you athists think it is wrong just keep your mouth shut and let it be.

  • B

    I often wonder if Tebow will “Thank the Lord” after a loss. Will he acknowledge God? I wonder. I do not want to wait for a loss, so maybe next year we will find out. LOL

    ~B

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