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Medical Privacy Lost in Stimulus

March 16, 2009 by  

Medical Privacy Lost in Stimulus

With the banging of the gavel in the U.S. Senate on the vote for the “Economic Stimulus” bill, your right to medical privacy vanished completely. For hidden in the minutia of the economic boondoggle was a provision to create electronic health records for every U.S. citizen. And under the law you can’t opt out.

This means that people and corporations—including insurance companies and the government—will be electronically linked together to share any information in your health records. This includes the most personal information about you like mental health treatment, surgeries and abortions, as well as whatever complaints you’ve discussed with your physician.

This moves beyond the privacy hit you took when the spuriously named Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) Privacy Rule was passed in 1996.

Without the ability to opt out of the database “Americans’ electronic health records could be shared—without their consent—with over 600,000 covered entities through the forthcoming nationally linked electronic health records network,” said Sue A. Blevins, president of the Institute for Health Freedom.

An equally egregious provision in the bill would require your physician to clear with the government any treatments he would prescribe to determine if they are cost-effective based on your health condition and age. Similar laws are in place in the U.K., and seniors or those with serious health problems are often denied treatment for their ailments.

For instance, at one time a person with macular degeneration was required to wait until he is blind in one eye before treatment on the other eye could begin. After a loud hue and cry by the British masses, that particular regulation was changed. But there are other similar ones in existence.

This is what is wrought when Big Brother is in charge. Nothing is private and nothing—not even your own body—is yours.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

    I do not want this Universial Health Care. Is this already in place?? I have a good insurance plan. I will be retiring June 30th of this year. I will be eligible for Medicare A
    and have to take Medicare B. But, I received mail it says it is from the Social Security office last Friday. It said I had till March 31st to go to Ryan’s steak house and sign up for the Medicare. but I noticed on this paper it had in small print Univerisal health car. What is going on?? Do you know?? Of couse I’m not going but there will be I’m sure alot of people that does they give you a Free Meal.

    • Aman

      Marilou,
      And for whom did you cast your vote for President? And be honest.

      • Jarhead68

        What does it matter? As long as she’s awake now.

        • Aman

          Good one Jarhead, Semper Fi!

      • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

        I voted for John McCain/Sarah Palin

      • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

        I voted for John McCain/SarahPalin. I knew where the “O” would be taking our country. I’m scared and feel we can not do anything to stop this Horror. Someone needs to stand up and be a HERO no matter what it cost. Tell the truth to the American People where the government is taking us.

        • Aman

          Marilou,

          Well…I did as too. But the revolutionary choice was really Ron Paul.

    • Mike B.

      Go to it, eat the free meal, tell them to stuff their health insurance offer.
      Mike B.

    • MSADIE

      UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE IS USED AS A SECONDARY OR SUPPLEMENTAL INSURANCE WITH MEDICARE PART B…MEDICARE IN MOST CASES PAYS 80% AND YOUR SECONDARY PICKS UP THE OTHER 20%…THAT IS OF COURSE WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY DEEMS FIT TO PAY….HOPE THIS HELPED.

    • EJB

      You don’t have a choice…I was told that if I did not get medicare plan B, I would be liable for the doctors and medical charges,,set forth as a primary payor…The Federal government has passed a law, making it mandatory to get plan B, if you have been receiving SS for two or more years….Our government has made it mandatory to get the government insurance,,whether you want it or not…Don’t worry—–they deduct the cost for this insurance, from your ss checks….

    • Christine

      You do not have to take Part B if you have credible health insurance through your job. Part B of Medicare is medical insurance. If your job is going to let you keep your insurance when you retire, it does not make sense to pay $96.40 for the part B. I help alot of seniors out there understand how medicare works. Again, if you are keeping your insurance, you need to deny part B. If you have any questions, just go down to your local social security office and show them you have credible coverage.

      • Christine

        What I meant, I apologize, while your working, deny part B, yes, your insurance when you retire becomes secondary. There are alot of choices for seniors out there if they are paying more than 150-180 a month. Some of which cover them at 100%

      • http://Yahoo Loyd

        Might want to check with your insurance. Mine works with medicare as a suppliment, not a stand alone insurance. As to the “free dinner” eat enjoy and walk out.

    • http://AmericanLibertyPost Marci

      There is a ‘universal’ Medicare, which includes Rx coverage & is much like an H.M.O. The company who administers tht plan [several private insurances do] receives your Medicare Part A & B and sometimes a premium from you. They usually cover all or part of vision, dental & preventative med [including health club membership], These may work well for people with few health issues, but often require referrals; so don’t work so well for multiple illness & or deeing more then one primary care physician. Hope this helps. And Yes the “BIG O” is leading us into soocialized medicine [kicking & scrreqming I hope!

    • SSG Prasuhn

      To: Marilou Kintner — RE: Your response on March 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am:
      The Social Security office(s) will not send you a letter telling you to go to some steak house (Ryan’s) to sign up for Medicare/Medicaid. You would have been (or will be) directed to either fill out the necessary forms that they send you or to come in to their offices to complete the necessary paperwork.

      If you are 65 or over (66 for ”Baby Boomers’) and submitting (initially) to take your retirement, you should have already filed these papers at ‘that’ time. I’m thinking the ‘mail’ you got to ‘report to Ryan’s steak house’ was (is ) a SCAM.

      If you have already gone to do this — REPORT it to the local police and the Social Security Board. If not, then DON’T ‘report’ to Ryan’s, except maybe for one of their nice steak dinners.

      Enjoy your retirement.

      ‘Nuff Said’,

    • Cynthia

      Marilou,
      Hi there. This is probably one of these selling dinners. They will probably urge you to take a Medicare alternative. Such as USHC. Many insurance companies offer alternatives. Many ins. companies have been unsucessful in the past This sell tactic is nothing new. Representatives of different insurance companies always call senior gatherings to sell an alternative, which claims to be cheaper.

      I worked in the medical field until 2001 so I am not as familiar with what goes on today. If you belong to any type od senoir club they are very helpful and usually have a representative who knows the ropes.

      You want to be sure that your savings on alternatives are worth it.
      I know that Medicare, for now, has a good source of Dr.’s who still participate in Medicare.
      If the government proceeds with this HC debaucle Medicare will no longer be accepted by many Dr.’s. The Mayo Clinic has opted out of Medicare already.

      Good luck to you Marilou! You do not have to sign up so go have a dinner ans listen to the boring rep! LOL!

  • Jarhead68

    I voted AGAINST “The Fraudulent One”. It’s time for a new, conservative party to knock the socks off the elephant and the jackass. We either need a peaceful revolution to get back to basics…THE CONSTITUTION…or a violent one to throw out the likes of Schumer, Pelosi, Boxer, Reid, Durbin, Snowe, Collins and Specter. Too liberal for too long. Time to clean house of all RINO’s and Whino’s.

    • Mike B.

      Hey Jarhead68, Howdy from a Jarhead69. I agree with your points a 1000%. I’v been telling anyone who would listen for a long time, that the Conservatives need their own Political party, and they need to be very selective in who they allow to run for office under the conservative banner. So people like Specter, Snow, and McCain can’t join and dilute the Conservative message.
      Unlike you, I don’t want a peaceful revolution. I want blood in the streets! I’m sick of the crap that Liberals have strewn across America in the last 75 years, and I want to eliminate it entirely from the American Scene. If you vote the libs out, they just reorganise and come back in 2-4 years with a new lie to dazzle and befuddle the voters. Screw that, just kill em all. They deserve it! They’r trying to enslave us.

      • Jarhead68

        A bit extreme but in the case of the democRAT leadership, it might work. Set an example for the rest of the sheep. Semper Fi.

      • Salmon

        I am also a jarhead: 72-85. You can not be talking the trash about getting rid of them the unlawful way, they have to be politically naked to the voters and voted out of office. Until the free thinkers from the Dem party start thinking, and voting for the Republic instead of communism/marxism/socialism, no matter the party, we will continue down the toilet at a rapid pace. You need to get Ron Paul and others like him on the ballot, so we can have a true american as Pres.

      • THE WALRUS

        MIKE B – MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY – OUR THOUGHTS MUST REMAIN UNSPOKEN – THEY TURN OFF THE GIRLY CONS & BRING DISAPPROBATION TO OUR CAUSE & UNWANMTED SCRUTINY – BEST APPROACH IS TO QUIETLY TO STOCK UP ON GUNS & AMMO (HAVE YOU TRIED TO BUY THEM IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS/) – BULLION GOLD – WATER – CANNED GOODS & IF POSSIBLE A FOREIGN ADDRESS AS A LAST RESORT – YES I KNOW THIS SOUNDS EXTREME BUT FOLLOW THE INDICATORS TO THEIR LOGICAL CONCLUSION – AS A FINAL THOUGHT DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE HOMELAND BRIGADE IS? EVER HEARD FO POSSE COMITATUS?

        WHY WAS THE 200 YEAR OLD INSURRECTION ACT – 18 U.S.C. 1385 WAS REPEALED WITH OUT PUBLIC NOTICE ON 10.01.2008? GET UP TO SPPEED ON THAT INFO IF DON’T VALUE YOUR SLEEP – GOOD LUCK BUDDY & KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY

        GOO -GOO – GA – JOOB

        • SSG Prasuhn

          Hey Walrus…..Why not just ‘SHOUT it from the hightest hills…. about ‘silently’ buying up ammo, guns, food, water, etc. and going with a foreign address (just in case)???

          Are you aware that all CAPITAL letters is considered to be ‘YELLING‘ (or SHOUTING) on these type of ‘boards’ and in e-mails??

          Say it again, I don’t the the ‘authorities’ HEARD YOU!!!

          ‘Nuff Said’,

    • Salmon

      Don’t forget McLame, and all the other Council on Foreign Relations folks! They are just the same as the Dems you don’t like, and spend just as much pork at the picnic.

      • Jarhead68

        You bet but one thing about McLame…he never took any pork.

        • Salmon

          His only shining star! All else, look who he votes with: all Liberals! Nuff said!

        • THE WALRUS

          YES – EXACTLY – I AM AN FEDERAL FIREARMS DEALER -
          DEPENDING ON YOUR STATE BUY THE FIREARM & A GUN SHOW OR FROM A PRIVATE PARTY & ABSOLUTELY AVOID REGISTERING IT

          GOOD LUCK FINDING ANY QUALITY MERCHANDISE – GUNS AND AMMO ARE VERY SCARCE

        • THE WALRUS

          JARHEAD – EVER HEARD OF THE KEATING FIVE? DON’T GET ME WRONG – IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU & I ARE PROBABLY ON THE SAME PAGE BUT MC CAIN IS AS CORRUPT AS MOST & IS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR RUNNING A GUTLESS CAMPAIGN & PUSSY FOOTING WITH THE OTHER SIDE FOR YEARS – & THIS IS THE BEST WE COULD SCRAPE UP?

          I CONSIDER HIM THE MAIN REASON FOR LOOSING THE ELECTION TO THE EMPTY SUITED BABOON

          DISGUSTING – PS – HE GOT MY VOTE

          GOO – GOO – GA – JOOB

    • M. G. Rust

      I’m all for a cleaning of the government. Why aren’t we uniting and getting the job done?

  • Judy G

    My husband has many health issues I do not want the government or anyone but his Doctors to know about. What can we do to kill this massive invasion of privacy? I think we need to act quickly to stop the government abuse of our rights. It’s time for a gigantic tea party and for every eligible voter to get registered and vote the scum out of office.

    • Aman

      Judy,
      There’s nothing you can do including voting people out of office.
      Just take good care of your health, try avoiding doctors and Rx.
      Oh! and do you use a membership card at a supermarket?
      You should also be aware that any foods and goods you purchase
      at the supermarket is also an indictment regarding personal health issues.
      So, in other words, if you’re overweight and purchase soda etc. that will become a matter of record. Furthermore, if you are being treated for weight and weight related health issues, you will not only be cited by the authorities, but you’ll be taxed additionally through healthcare and life insurance if you carry a policy. Rather Orwellian !

      • Judy G

        thanks for your response. I am not overweight nor is my husband. I use my bank card for purchases and it comes out of my checking account. Maybe I should go to the bank first and get cash, they can’t trace cash, at least not yet. I hate what our country is becoming and it doesn’t seem to make a difference if you are a Republican or a Democrat, they are all cut from the same cloth anymore.

        • Aman

          You’re beginning to catch on. If you don’t want the government watching your every move then make all purchases with cash insofar as certain things go. Believe it or not here in NJ, Liberals a few years back were trying to conjour up a way to legislate a new tax. Get ready cause this one will make you laugh but here it goes…A SEX TAX for married couples. I don’t know anything more than that. But my point is many, if not all liberals never met a tax that they didn’t like!

        • jojosegura

          all these taxes they’re trying to pass are actually illegal in every way were not supposed to have taxes at all I’m thinking of going exempt who else would do the same how would they fund all this stuff if they’re not getting our money

        • wb frank

          money?! What money… all you need is a barcode on your neck (remember the TV series with Jessica Alba?!) or your wrist or arm… to scan… but first: there is the melding of Canada, US, and Mexico… and of course the Amero currency. The best way to control the US population is that little device that you put in your dog or cat… and it HAS been developed for the human population! The only thing besides the gps tracking in the small capsule is how you keep it powered for a long time w/o taking it out… oh, and to make it better would be to place a small charge in it with a remote sensor and put is next to your heart. Once science fiction; now fact.

    • Foolpatrol

      Do you stand against the “massive invasion of privacy” on women’s health issues, including pregnancy choices, too? Just wondering? Seems that “conservatives” want government out of their lives while forcing it into other peoples’ choices, doctors’ offices and bedrooms.

      • Judy G

        I don’t want the government meddling in any of my affairs. I want them to do only what the original Constitution gave them permission to do. There is nothing about Socialism in the original Constitution.

    • jojosegura

      I just thought I’d let everyone know that on April 1st people all over are going to send 1 tea bag to Mr.Obama it’s called the New American Tea Party search for it in Google it seems like a lot of Americans are starting to wake up all over the place just please don’t close your eyes any more we need to stand up stand strong and show them they’re not running things any more I want my son to grow up like I did, free speech the right to bear arms and everything else in this country that makes it great and helps keep us free please help wake people up do you own research that way when someone try’s to rebuttal you can hit them back with a fact search you tube search Google what ever it takes to wake up America.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Where is the ACLU when you need them? I cannot believe the madness in Washington! I feel like Alice must of felt when she went through the looking glass! How do we stop this now? I have 10 years to retirement. This is ludicrous to think that the government is going to be in charge of everything. Even our own personal decisions! It’s time for a revolt. We are going down and helpless to do anything about it.
    Don’t blame me…. I didn’t vote for him.

    • http://yahoo Bruce

      The ACLU? They are supporting the socialism. They are a group of ultra liberal zealots that want to get everyone under the government’s thumb.

      • Foolpatrol

        Not true. The ACLU has supported KKK members’ freedom of speech and Rush’s (the drug addicted, inciter and America hater) medical redord privacy. Despite the fact that he went to numerous doctors to get his fix and used his innocent Hispanic housekeeper to facilitate getting his dope. The ACLU has to courage to take stands on unpopular issues on all sides. Tell the whole truth!

        • http://yahoo Bruce

          And they support atheists, NMBLA (national man boy love association) and absolutely support and exploit ANYTHING that is immoral and against Americanism. The ACLU is a bunch of mis directed antisemitism organization in the country.

        • Mike B.

          FoolPatrol, your name should be “LiberalLover” or similar. ACLU is a socialist tool. They support every leftwing wacko group, in addition to groups that are perverts or worse. Liberals are the only ones out there that hate America, yet that is what they always accuse everyone else of being. You are a dick!

        • Claudia

          “foolpatrol”, you are mistaken! The ACLU is controled by a bunch of whiny leftists and ONLY represents whatever is unAmerican. It’s just another arm of the demoncrat party. Why can’t we just split this country in two parts. We, the REAL Americans, can have the land with the oil and coal, the military and our Constitution. You can have the rest, you Stalinist!

        • jojosegura

          you must be on there side, and not want this country to be great. you should do some research Obamas against us along with all the other idiots in office do you actually think he’s doing some good with everything that he’s trying to do I don’t and I want it to stop just like the rest of the people on this site I didn’t make aig, fanny and freddie and the auto dealers go broke they should have made better choices and to top it off when aig got there portion of the bail out money they wanted to give the people who put them in the whole bonuses are you serious go check it out for your self and stop watching T.V it makes people stupid I shouldn’t have to pay for it and neither should my children

        • http://bobo Robert

          American, founded on Christianity and the fear of GOd. Not killing and punishing everyone that does not think like we do. YOu sound like the old farts i drink coffee with, if you do not believe like me you are dirt!!!! You are open and i can see all of your side. I really think that our new government “Change we can live with” is going to bankrupt the country and then bring in his own army to control the population. I heard he is already starting on it. 100,000 Islam killers. Then you are allowed your own though like i am.

      • Salmon

        Spot on Bruce! They are against everything American or Christian, and for Socialism and anarchy. Keep it going!

        • Foolpatrol

          You people don’t sound Christian or American for that matter. More divisive BS. Didn’t you listen to President Obama? There no room for red vs.blue, liberal vs. conservative, Christian vs. nonChristian. Americans are Americans! That divisive BS keeps Rush fat, rich and happy (or is it the pills that keep him happy); and you struggling, name calling and spewing hatred.

        • Salmon

          Yes, we listened to the beloved President Obama. But we are not the lemmings you and he wants us to be. The pied piper can only lead those around by the nose ring, who want to believe he is the saviour of the world. And speaking of devisive: who is it that blames all this garbage on President Bush every time his lips move? PO would be the answer. Also, we have to listen to all the fear mongering coming from the top: enough of it already, fix the problems or shut up!

    • wb frank

      look it up: the ACLU was born out of the extremist movement of the early 1900′s called the anarchist movement! They just love this crap.. and why doesn’t anyone use the U word for Obama?!?
      UNAMERICAN

  • http://yahoo Bruce

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. He is just getting started with his socialistic agenda that he is starting to implement.
    He already has stated that he is going to support a ban on firearms. He could do this simply by opting into the U.N. small arms treaty.
    The fairness doctrine not only effect conservitave programs but he will use this to shut down Christian radio and TV.

  • jorgaone

    What many of you don’t realize is that we allowed this to happen because the “pied piper” certainly made HIS stance clear even before he was elected. BUT–the speed with which he has started to enforce what he promised us by way of “Hope N’ Change” has left most of us boggled and in shock.
    ALL we can do is simply DEMAND that the Supreme Court HEAR all the cases dealing with his eligibility to be POTUS (from varying angles) and when they do–he will be FORCED to step down.
    From all I’ve read, it would appear that when he is proven a purposeful imposter–all his thieving cabinet that he’s managed to retain so far, and all the bills he’s signed into law (including HR1 and the Hopusing bill) are null and void!
    Can we pick up the pieces, learn from what he foisted on us these last two months–and solve our problems with our own native ingenuity? I KNOW we can!
    Let’s get him OUT of office–NOW!

    • Judy G

      I’m with you but the Supreme Court isn’t going to do anything about him. There aren’t enough true conservatives on the Court to enact this kind of thing. Now with him in office the Supreme Court will be even more liberal as he gets to pick the new members. I think it’s time the people voted for Supreme Court and abolish lifetime membership.

    • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

      I agree with you 150% what can we do???? I have writted letters and sent e-mail to everyone. Do we even know the person that needs to read the pleads or even seeing them???? I’m beginning to think they are all crooked for the hunger power and greed of money. We have to do something. My son and I are going to purschase a gun this weekend just for protection that I think we need to have. I am a survivor I will go down fighting. I’m a Texas Cowgirl but live in Florida now. Why didn’t the Republicans do everything to keep him out of office. They had to know his agenda for this country.??? I’m very upset. I don’t want any of the bull### the current Administration is passing. We need a HERO now does anyone know one?????

      • Paul Trood

        Marilou I live in Australia and have studied U.S. politics for a long time. Your real problem is that your system of government federally is totally flawed. By it’s sheer design it creates greed, fraud and self interest. This can also be said about most world governments. What is needed is to move from a monetary based economy to a resource based economy. I recently watched a presentation about this subject and it has opened my mind as to what we have really become and just how unsustainable our current system is. Obama like every president before him back to JFK are puppets acting out the commands by those really in power which are the bankers. Yes the M.I.C. is corrupt as are the Pharma companies but at the top of the tree is the banking elite. They control the worlds money, so in essence, in a monetary based economy they control the world, and where the money lies is where the power resides. JFK was the last REAL American president. A man who stood up to the obvious corruption of the banks, the M.I.C. and many others and paid the ultimate price for doing so. This world in which we live in has been hijacked and unless we can remove the power of the elite we will never be free and will continue to see our liberties, or what is left of them continue to be eroded.
        As far as finding a hero is concerned, in my view and that’s all it is, Ron Paul and Dennis Kusinich are the only true patriots. But because of the realities of our truly pathetic condition as a people one cannot even be sure about the true motives behind their perceived positions. In reality everything we are fed is a fraud to benefit a small group at the top of the tree. I pity our children’s futures for they and their offspring will only suffer greater than what we have to endure.
        For a greater understanding of a resource based economy and what it entails go to, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3932487043163636261

        • http://yahoo Bruce

          No, our system encourages one to work HARD and make it pay. Not to lay around and let the government hand it all to him if they desire.

          Obummer is going to stifle entrepreneurs. Why try when it taken from those that work hard and give it to the lame and lazy?

        • Paul Trood

          Bruce I am not talking about whether or not your system promotes hard work or reliance on social security. I am talking about governmental structures and how they relate to big business mainly the banking sector. The fact that companies can contribute funds to individuals for campaigning for re-election rather than contributing to the Party singular, amounts to nothing but bribery. In Australia it is illegal, and if an individual minister or senator received moneys from companies or individuals he would be sacked and prosecuted. Your system allows for systemic corruption at every level. On Obama you are correct he is a socialist, but more importantly he is doing what he is told to do by his superiors.

        • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

          Paul What can we do. Everything has come before our eyes now what is going on. I’m afraid of a Facist American. Can’t we the people do something??

          • pickiemagee

            yes you and all americans have to fight!!

        • Paul Trood

          Marilou that’s a tough question. In reality a peoples revolution is what is probably needed. Somehow someone needs to be able to unite sufficient people, probably over 50% of the adult population to stand up and insist on adherence to the Constitution, the strict application of The Rule of Law, the removal of all the troops on foreign soil, the removal of the farcical Patriot Act and the prosecution of all in government that will not comply with these demands. The level of insistence NEEDS to be extreme but peaceful which may in it’s self be difficult to implement. There could be serious ramifications for the safety of the people that take this stand, but there is strength and safety in numbers. If the decent was SO large the media could not ignore it and it’s reporting could unite many from other countries and governments to pressure the current administration.
          One of the biggest deceptions is “Democracy”. Yes governments are democratically elected(assuming no voter fraud) but that’s where it ends. Once in, these people are free to in act laws and regulations that the MAJORITY are in fact opposed to. That makes a mockery of the word democracy, it is a total con.
          For this dessent to be effective it may require people removing their labor, which would lead to pain financially for both them and the companies they work for, but it would send a VERY strong message and could in itself be a very potent creator of change.
          My biggest concerns about following this course is that Marshal Law could be instituted and this could cause the death of many innocent peace loving people. But change will never come easily, there will have to be sacrifices made to affect this change as history shows us just too clearly.
          Marilou I am a peaceful man, I do not believe in War, with the possible exceptions of when the pain and suffering of a people is just so great and all dialogue has failed to improve their conditions. Wars based on commodity theft, political ideology and religion are abhorrent. This is what nearly all wars today are based on and it is a sad indictment on what society has accepted even with all the spin used to sell them.
          Can a man or woman be found that could raise the level of enthusiasm to bring about the commitment I have mentioned above? I don’t know, but without it I believe little can be achieved, as the adversary is both powerful and smart, two combinations that are always difficult to defeat.

        • THE WALRUS

          WHAT IS THE M.I.C.?

        • Paul Trood

          Military Industrial Complex.

      • jojosegura

        please do not register it that would be a total mistake because if they know who has the guns they’ll go there first when they decide to declare martial law please do not register it

        • Paul Trood

          Excellent advice.

        • http://yahoo Bruce

          Yes! Obummer is going to come after our firearms. He is going to let the U.N. do it, tho.
          He is also going to trash the Bible and stiffle our ministers and conservative show hosts.

          He’s a Socialistic OBUMMER

    • wb frank

      remember that IF and this is not going to happen: yes, if he is found out to be an imposter just who or what entity would remove him from office?? Surely NOT the Democratic (Communist) Party since they control and have controlled the Senate and House for the past two and almost 1/2 years. And, see where that has led to! There is no way they can blame this on Bush (there really is a psycological syndrome: Bush Derangement Syndrome)… AND the Democratic Party has also know about the AIG and other payments to the execs… Geitner (known as the Tax Cheater) knew about this as well and any messages from the White House about not knowing is : A LIE! There is other dangerous initiatives from the UN having to do with health, abortions (oh that’s right we have already passed that bill), your children and their education, Crap and Trade, national police forces controlled by the UN… and on and on.
      BTW when is the construction going to begin??? Oh you know: tearing out the bowling alley in the White House and putting in a basketball court?
      And also Google this : narcisisstic Obama and see where that leads to! Nothing like a Prez with a sociopathic personality disorder!

  • Norman Andrews

    Aman is right, Ron Paul was the best candidate for President.
    Too bad he didn’t run on the Libertarian Party ticket. But the
    presidency isn’t the issue. Right, Left, and Center, Americans
    show the desire to wrap each other in chains, at both local and
    congressional levels of politics. If we ALL wanted to vote out ALL
    incumbents, we still wouldn’t succeed, because we won’t all
    decide on the same set of persons to be their successors.
    I see little hope people will unite on voting for Libertarian party.

    I’m also not happy with the idea of a revolution, though it may
    come to that eventually. I am afraid it would be too much like
    the French Revolution, and would be truly horrific. We’d
    likely end up with a truly broken country, mass starvation, and
    guns would trump silver for a long while.

    But the answer isn’t voting out ALL incumbents. If the Libertarian
    Party got above it’s 4 or 5% support to 7 or 8%, and took a lot
    more votes away from one of the two major parties than from
    the other, I think it would change the politics in this country
    quite a bit.

    I do think the religious right has destroyed the value of the
    Republican party. I never ever voted for Democrats, but I am
    DONE voting for Republicans. or for anyone who even mentions
    religion or abortion in a political campaign.

    • Salmon

      It is unfair to blame all this garbage on the religious right: they are against anything which is un-american, socialist, etc. What, by the way is your description of the religious right?

    • Salmon

      The fact of the matter is: neither party has any values, and the Republicans from at least Ike, and the Dems? Nothing there for anyone called religious right to destroy. The people who elect the specters, snows, etc are to blame as much as anything.

    • wb frank

      ….and soon you will not have a vote as we will have one party Democrat (communist) Party. Get rid of the 22nd Amendment, and there is a bill on its way to a vote, and you will have an Obama forever. The conservative movement is NOT the Republican Party. We have a Marxist in power now with his party following in lock-step behind him. Now all we need is concentration camps (I think there is already a contract up for bids), national government force not controlled by any state, county or municipality… George Orwell was a prophet!

      • Cris

        I heard they are already being built!

  • SANDY STRAIGHT

    WE NEED SOMEONE TO ARTICULATE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE FREEDOMS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN FROM US AND A COHERENT PLAN TO OPPOSE THIS TERRIBLE SOCIALIST AGENDA.

    • Salmon

      Starting with #1: freedom of speech/freedom of religion. They are trying to close down christian broadcasting and any talk radio not in lockstep with PBR/PBS, etc.

      2 Trying to tax us to death on guns, ammo, and an outright ban/confiscation of our current firearms.

      Private property rights are being taken away.
      North American Union w/Mex and Can.
      North American Currencies.
      Nafta Superhighway from Mx to Can, all over the US. This will be toll road, run by foreign nation/s.
      Printing of fiat money, they can’t back, etc.

      • wb frank

        go to these websites before it is too late:

        sportsmansguide.com
        jgsales.com
        cheaperthandirt.com

        My fellow americans: stock up before it is too late!

  • Don D

    Bruce #5 is correct.
    I voted for McCain/Palin so I can’t be blamed either AND we told you O people what was going to happen.

    Obama and gang is against our Constitution!
    We should’ve left the (useless) UN a long time ago. Write our delegate to stay with our Constitutional Rights to bear arms – All arms!

    Everything Obama said he wasn’t going to do, HE is doing! You just had to look at his record on guns to tell you that he is anti-gun. Look at his VP – anti-gun for 30+ years. His cabinat picks are from the Clinton Adm. which is over 8 yrs old. So what do you expect! ALL anti-Constitution people! Most with Tax problems or problems paying their taxes! We would’ve been locked up for not paying them.

    Obama is blocking FOIA suits to find out his real birth certificate/school records BUT he wants all of our Private Health info.! What’s he afraid of!

    The ACLU is anti-anything Right for America. They are attacking the Boy Scouts and the Constitution, they don’t have time for America and what’s right! They want to get rid of GOD as well.

    The Democrats on a whole is Anti-Constitution, with a few exceptions.

    Blagovich was thrown out for trying to sell a Senate seat, but Pelosi can and did BUY the Speaker of the House position by giving out 10′s of thousands of $$ of her campaign donations to top democrats to insure that she got her seat – what’s the difference between her and Blago? The bad/sad thing is IF the Pres and VP are killed then she takes over the counrty and her previous job was being a puiblic relations person!

    Google up ‘ concentration camp ‘ and click on the one that comes up ‘ c c in America ‘ if you want to be scared – the Constitution gets voided out – this is from 30 years ago! This is passed around because people think Obama will sign it into action – FEMA takes over the country!

    O wants his own little army so that they can come and get you, not our real army!

    TIME to wake up has past – a Revolution is going on now, if you didn’t know it.

    A new political party is trying to be started called ‘ The Constitution Party ‘ which will take NO Money from gov’t to campaign. It will run on the concepts of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
    Goto ‘ http://www.resistnet.com ‘ to learn more.

    • Foolpatrol

      Are you really this scared or just off your meds? Where were you when Bush was eroding the Constitution?

      • Don D

        I’ll admit I was paranoid over the Concentration Camps in America, People starting to get their ‘ Safe-houses ‘ ready, The Mormons that are told to have a whole years supply of food as back-up and other things about a month ago, but I’ve gotten over that.
        What med’s?
        What Bush did was minor to try and get terrorist’s and I was against the wiretaps and giving up ‘ some of my freedoms ‘ for that.

        Obama wants to do away with ALL of the Constitution and to Bankrupt this country with these bailouts with NO oversight. Earmarks – PORK that O said wouldn’t be in there – well over 8,000 of them are in there.
        He has in his cabinet people that don’t pay taxes for over 6 years until they were to be appointed to his cabinet and the list goes on and on.

        IF you’re not scared now with the O factor, what are you gonna be when he does to you and all what he is planning?
        You better check you med’s over and make sure you’re on the right ones and they aren’t expired!

        I still think Bush did an excellent job, he had to put up with lib dems and still keep our country safe from attack, which he did. This Financial Crisis came from Former Pres Bill Clinton signing de-regulation of the financial institutions which Bush wanted to fix right away and two years later, but Congress said no both times and then McCain wanted to fix it and Congress again said NO!

        Democrats in charge for two years got us no where but in a big-hole – now they are in complete control for at least two more years and the hole is getting bigger! This is worse than Bush could’ve done!
        Bush liberated a country and its back to almost a totally FREE country or would you rather see more killings by their leader?

        I think you need to also clean your glasses or at least put them on.

        • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

          Don D you are right on about everything you say. I hope we can take our country back in 2 years it might be too late by then if they keep passing and changing everything so fast. The Democrats did not listen to what he said. He said just what he was going to do. But all they heard was more free money and not work. They did not realize they were voting for a person that was going to take away our freedom and eveything that goes with it.

      • pickiemagee

        you need to get past that,alot of people didn’t see the threat !!

    • wb frank

      and another thing… the Messiah in Chief has probably set race relations back 50 years… if he was run out of office we would have blood running in the streets!

  • Ron J

    To Don D,
    I went to http://www.resistnet.com 3 times and nothing came up each time. Is it shut off or did I just get on the wrong list.

    • Salmon

      I went there: it opened fine. Need to open a new browser.

  • Maddening

    I have mental health issues and do not feel it’s the Feds, or anyone else’s business for that matter. I only tell those I choose to know. There is a stigma attached to my type of illness and if readily made known, me, and people like me, may find ourselves as outcasts.

    LaBomba (better known as Obamination in some circles) is surely on the road to bastardizing the good ole USA. May Almighty God have mercy on all of us.

    Personally, I voted McCain/Palin.

    • Salmon

      They are trying to mirror Canada system: why do the Canadians come here for transplants and other life threatening diseases? They can’t get medical assistance there unless a Government agent gives them the go ahead.

      • wb frank

        Poor Canadians (and US of course) where will we all go with Canadian Healthcare and a French economy??!!

  • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

    I work at a Univeristy in Florida. This crap about making funds available for all the students to get a College Education and I’m sure he was taking about the minorties.
    The University several years ago lowered the standards for them to attend (GPA’S.
    Well they found another way to beat the system. They register fill out all proper forms to get Financial Aid. We disburse the aid. They totally withdraw or do not even attend. The y recieve the Pell Grant, Seog’s and Direct Loans all Titile IV funds.
    The Unviersity has to pay the government back all this money by 120 days no later.
    So these students do not owe the government and the government gets back their money. But we have to collect the funds that we paid back. You have no idea how much they owe. It is just another way to beat the system. They were taught that way.

    • Foolpatrol

      Who is “they” and who taught them that way? Is racism driving you mentally ill? FYI: No need to lower GPAs or anything else when all students in America have access to a quality education regardless of socio economic status. Wonder what accounts for the fact that given access to opportunity, minorities excell in every area, e.g., academics (President Obama), law (Willie Gary), medicine (Dr. Ben Carson), golf (Tiger Woods), tennis (Williams sisters), entertainment empires (Oprah); music, sports, business, … . Is this the reason that you are so afraid?

      • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

        I’m not a racist!!!! I’m saying theones theat to thisdo not want a education just free money. The Univeristy’s will go bankrupt funding these students that do not intend to graduate or want a education. It is not fare to the ones that does.
        They have told me it is a way to beat the system.!!!!

    • wb frank

      yes, we have brought back welfare! And this money is NOT for the citizen: it is for the illegals among us!

  • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

    His records are frozen at the Univeristy’s he attended. If we could just see those. It would tell if he was a citizen or not. I do not think he is never did. It would also tell us what papers he wrote, what clubs he belonged to. What he stood for. I will bet you he was in Communist movement at the colleges he attended. I want him and his henchman gone. I also do not trust that Senior Advisor he has. He is really scary. Everything was planned for years to do this but it is going so fast. Most people are just putting their heads in the sand on this one. I cannot believe they are not, as upset as I am. We have to do something that works. Any suggestions?

    • Foolpatrol

      Suggestion: First, calm down and take your meds. That usually works. If not, consider shock treatments. Though rarely used, it might burn some of that racism and fear out of your head. I relate to you about wanting him and his henchmen gone. That’s how I felt about the failed Bush Administration. I worked hard to insure that McSame and Sarah “give me free” “what’s in it for me” Palin did not have the opportunity to continue Bush’s failed policies. God Bless President Obama as he leads America out of Bush’s many failures.

      • wb frank

        Bush Derangement Syndrome is alive and well… please take YOUR meds!
        You must have taken the ‘coolaide’ drink.
        narcissistic Obama: Google it

      • SSG Prasuhn

        Poor, Poor, Poor Footpatrol!
        When will you and others like you wake up and realize that IT’S the DEMOCRATS who have put this country DOWN and are kicking it to the gutter ever since ‘THEY‘ (Democrats) KILLED JFK (John Fitzgerald Kennedy)?? What’s that you say?? “They? Killed JFK??” He was a Democrat! Right! But he was going ‘against’ them in turning our great country around. His ‘key’ phrase that turned them against him was when he said, ‘Ask NOT what your country can do for you. Ask what YOU cant do for your country.‘ Democrats (today) don’t want you doing anything for your country (to help it), but they’ll ‘give‘ you (most) anything you want (at a price — to you) — for which you will be very, very sorry for/about down the road. And the problem is, you won’t even realize it until it’s too late!

        On top of that, his brother ‘Bobby’ (Robert Kennedy) was also killed because ‘he too’ believed as his brother John (but NOT TED). Guess which Kennedy boy is STILL THERE??? Does anyone remember how their ‘old mad’ made his millions/billions?? — Through bootlegging and (some say) gun running back in the 1920′s or so — ‘Organized Crime‘ John and Bobby were against this method of ‘doing business’, but Ted doesn’t seem to feel the same way (in my opinion — and ‘his’ actions tend to prove my theory).

        No then, ad the ‘rest’ of the Democrats who think (believe) this ‘way of doing business’ and you end up with today’s form of government.

        ‘Nuff Said’,

  • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

    Also a retired Air Force officer lives in my neighborhood. He said if the Amesity Act is passed that the “0″ would be our President or dictator, I guess forever. Have anyone heard about this. For sure this needs to be stopped. We do not need that to be passed.

    • wb frank

      Yes Marilou, the repeal of the 22nd Amendment. Which party was responsible? Look that up. There is a bill in motion…

  • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

    Excuse my spelling today I’m in a hurry to get these on in between helping students. I apologize for the mis spelling

  • Holly

    I am one of those that sat up all night and read the bill. I read about the database. From what Obama is hinting at, medical care will be dispensed to those when it makes sense. Bypass surgery or chemo for the young, the seniors won’t qualify as payback is minimal to society.

    It is not just the people who can’t opt out, the physicians can’t opt out.

    I wonder if Congress has a provision to amend a bill and cancel it out through the amendment? They are always adding clauses…

    1984 is here!

    Hold on to your hat, the same type of database is being discussed with permits to carry guns. Read that bill it is just as bad!

    Holly M.

    • wb frank

      George Orwell was a prophet! Remember that places like Sweden and Norway have a cradle to grave system. Over there you may be rewarded for NOT working! But, just how many people work for those who are too lazy? And, there is the thing about Government Mandated Euthanasia… 10′s of thousands each year. The Government decides when you die: another good read: It Can’t Happen Here – Sinclair Lewis; Brave New World – Aldous Huxley a real crack-head, or was it heroin… I forget

  • s c mailen, jr.

    Here’s another disaster from the ‘best and the brightest’ crowd. Forget the ACLU. They were anti-American decades ago. For a good idea as to what’s about to happen, imagine a chummy get-together of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. They would be so proud of what the TRANSPARENCY and CHANGE crew is forcing on America. What we’re getting is a twisted combination of socialism, communism, anarchy, FDR, Jimmy Carter and bargain-basement insanity.
    Excuse me if I don’t stand up and salute. We’ve been had by our so-called leaders. What would the Founding Fathers do?

  • Claudia

    I’m with “Jarhead68″. We MUST banish these clowns in Congress. We are living in a leftist production by the leftist media and Congress. These people had all this insanity with the economy planned and in place so they could implement their socialist/communist policies. Their puppet is the obamunist. He is told what to say at every turn (via teleprompter). Everything is upside down and one big lie. Everything they say in front of their complicit media cameras is scripted. They think we know nothing about our history, economics nor common sense (which is true for people who vote for them) and that we’ll believe what they say. With their lies, ACORN and the media on their side, they can easily continue to steal elections like they did this passed one. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE OUR TEA PARTIES and let them see our outrage. We are the ones working and paying these exhorbitant taxes. WE MUST SCREAM TO BE HEARD!

    • Foolpatrol

      OK. so you’re screaming. Now, scream something useful. Tax cuts to the wealthylthy deregulation, out of control spending and good ol boy cronyism caused the Bush recession. Newflash: Nothing trickled down! Simply no, with no plans and no ideas on how to move forward won’t fix it. Stop screaming, drink the tea and calm down. Perhaps you’ll come up with an original solution or a workable unoriginal one. You betcha!

      • Worried

        So you prefer “trickle up poverty”?

      • wb frank

        before he left office and before he signed in the first ‘stimulus’ package what was the deficit??? Much lower than the one that the Messiah has given us in less that 50 days in office. Congress controlled by the Democrats for well over two years… this is ALL on the Jackass-crats heads. BTW, just what is the medication needed for the Bush Derangement Syndrome… koolaide laced with… Remember Hitler and Jim Jones… Hitler never had a teleprompter; Obama-ass can never speak without one. He has not one true thought… just why when he was in Illinois did he only vote: present…. remember my post on the probable personality disorder

  • Char

    I usually just read what other individuals write however, because I worked for many years like many of you, by the time I returned home, dinner etc. didn’t hear that much of the news. Thus, at election time I would go to the polls and vote. I am now retired and this past election, while reading comments at the end of an article, the lightbulb came on in my head. Wow, I thought I never heard of that! I went on the Internet and typed in the browser Clowden-Piven Strategy and I learned a great deal. On the first page of that site there are eight things I could click on, page two another eight and so on for over thirty pages!! I encourage all of you to do the same…here is the individuals comment that made me start checking:
    Lilscats9
    01:58 PMNov 01 2008
    has it occured to anyone else as it has to me, that it seemed very strange that our financial system collapsed almost overnight, this close to the election. Now I am reading on the web the theory of the Cloward and Piven Strategy, which basically says that capitalism can be caused to collapse by overloading the government with impossible demands, The web says Obama studied this in school and he with his friends from Lehman, Fannie & Freddie caused this to happen to get him elected and to make him look good. Did anyone notice that he was unconcerned when it happened. Said he would go to Washington if he was needed, and kept on campaigning. If this is true, we had all better be scared out of our wits and get rid of this man at the ballot box before he destroys us all. This is scary stuff.

    • Salmon

      Someone quoted him as saying: ’4 dollar gas isn’t the problem, it is that the price got there way too fast.’

    • wb frank

      your eyes have been opened albeit too late. This has been in the planning stages for over 8 years. Now the collective They can have their way. And we probably cannot do anything about it. Short of a national calamity we are doomed! Sorry to see so little posts on A.C.O.R.N…. REMEMBER they got over 5 BILLION in payoffs in the ‘stimulus’ bill… People said in the past, and it was NOT true, that Bush stole the election… yes the Koolaid was drunk long, long ago. Most people are sheep: they love to be led; there are few real patriots and leaders.
      A.C.O.R.N did indeed help steal this election: so do we call Obama the Fraud In Chief?

    • http://mkintner@uwf.edu Marilou Kintner

      Thank you for posting this. I pulled it up and read all of it and I do think this is what happened. I just do not for the life of me no one in the media has said anything about this. I also thought the same as you when the financial system collapsed over night. This was a way to blame for it. Thank you again also we should try to get the media to start covering this. Could the present Administration be tried for treason or was it just a slick way to get elected?? After all they have taken retirements away from thousands of people including me.

    • pickiemagee

      you right thay played the market ;thay also played bush he did not even know what hit him!go back in news he said”that the american people would not let anyone take there right away”he know after the fact no one is hearing what is realy being said!keep in mind thay are lawers an how you word the statement is everything!!

  • Archie

    The ACLU has never been for the average citizen. Look up its founders. one was a past president of the communist party USA, several were activists for socialist labor and socialist causes. It was setup to use the courts and constitution to get government off the backs of subversives. They take “innocent” cases to give the public the idea they really care, usually when they are under fire.
    We are in the early stages of a “One World Government”, Our constitution is being stripped from us one law at a time and if we don’t act in our own interest as Americans, we better act in our own. They are already starting to trace our credit, purchases,education and employments. Chicago is going to start fingerprinting people who buy or sell a house. If you believe in Christ, you might want to get ready for the rapture. Most of whats happening has been predicted.

    • Foolpatrol

      Yea, I certainly agree. The Bush Administration did more to erode the Constitution in eight years than in the entire history of the founding document. Thank God those war criminals are gone. Real justice will happen when Bush is tried, convicted and hopefully executed.

    • wb frank

      amen! We are living in the Last Days… BUT, we may have to live in the days of perdition to be taken up AFTER it is all over.

    • pickiemagee

      they can not fingerprint you just like that you stand up an say no go someware else.do not ,do not give up your rihgts thay are testing everyone to see just how far thay can go.just like with hitler he got the power ligailly,an all the kids were folled at first.

  • http://BobLivingston Tracy

    The website resist.net is available. I just went there and will join, as we need as many people to fight this onslaught of communizing our country as we can.

  • Hans Nielsen

    **It is pure SOCIIALISM! Don’t kidd yourself. What Obama is doing ot this country is dragging us into a quagmire of socialistic bureucracy! I came from a socialistic country (Denmark) so I know the routine. Higher taxes and more and more government interference in your personal life. They will use all statistics they can get their hands on to collect new taxes!!Read my book “The Star Spangled Viking” by Hans-Erik Nielsen @ PublishAmerica.com It is all in there! Do not get fooled by smooth talking politicians!

    • Salmon

      Hans is correct! It is pure SOCIIALISM! Don’t kidd yourself. What Obama is doing ot this country is dragging us into a quagmire of socialistic bureucracy!

      • Hans Nielsen

        Dear Salmon; Thank God someone is listening out there! i have had it up to my eyeballs and want some action… our young people are sleeping and being suckered in by this Charlatanian mixed up and spoiled youngster (Obama).
        he has no idreqa of waht he is doing to our country and if he did, he would be
        liable for fraud! Enough is enough with all this liberal crap,.I am 72 year sold but ready to fight and throw the whole gang out of the White House and the Congress. Join the Libertarian Party or start a new AMERICAN PARTY? Don’t forget to send a teabag to the White House on April1 st. !

  • Hans Nielsen

    Teabags are supposed to be maile d to the White House on April 15th. Sorry.

    • jojosegura

      were trying to make sure they get there by the 15th

    • Foolpatrol

      Where did you mail your tea bags during Bush’s eight years of failure?

      • wb frank

        yep, you area fool with BDS

      • Hans Nielsen

        Only the last two years under Busch were the problems arising due to a democratic majority in Congress.

  • Hans Nielsen

    Archie. You are right on target!

  • Duane Buchanan

    The Group health care clinic in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario Canada has a fully functional electronically based patient records keeping system. Physicians, nurses and other technical people have access to the system but it is password protected and access is limited to everyone based on their need to know. They are excluded from access to all other files where they have no need to know. Some people for example only have input access. The system is completely paperless and I’ve never heard a complaint about unautorised disclosure over a period of many years.

    I’m sure the security system is complex and would likely take a long time to implement such a system but it works very well locally for many thousand Patients.

    • Salmon

      Yes, I am sure it does! But, whomever implemented the system, knows how to access, monitor and screen the individual patients and pass along this info to any govt agent. Trojan Horse ring a bell?

    • Foolpatrol

      Hey,
      Nobody wants to hear about an efficient, cost effective, workable system or healthcare savings that may insure thousands of uninsured working poor Americans. We’re American and Christian and we don’t give a damn about solutions. If you don’t want to blame President Obama for Bush’s failures and talk about how Christian you are, this is not the place for you. It’s us against them despite the fact that we have no plans and no solutions. We are the Right and we are always right!

    • wb frank

      We have the same type here at the hospital where I work: the VA. But, someone has to have Administrator access… and WHO will be the Administrator-In-Chief?? Rham dead fish Emanuel, Hitlery Clinton, Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney the Frank, and on and on…

  • Hans Nielsen

    Excuse my misspellings but I am so darn mad that I cannot see my keyboard straight!
    When are we going to wake up? When we are completely engrossed in Socialism (and bordering on Communism/? What happened to the AMERICAN FREE SPIRIT! is it already dead? WAKE UP AMERICA. LISTEN TO GLENN BECK, HANNITY, O’REILLY AND GINGRICH. They are the only ones who speak the truth!

    • wb frank

      American free spirit will go away… and for our own good just maybe they (Big Brother) will have the sense to put something in the water to calm us all down….

  • Latigo

    This database may violate HIPA laws already in place – thus any conflict that will have to be settled in the courts. Congress may have in their hurry (after all no one read the bill) never bothered to repeal the prior HIPA laws which establish a “steel” door against allowing medical information to be released, particularly information that relates to mental health. Thus, it may be time to start class action lawsuits against this new database and /or civil rights suits to determine patient rights on this issue. The key is to know what laws are still on the books and note the conflicts between them and this new law.

    If this law leads to patients being denied equal care for like health care problems because of age or because they have confronted their doctors or filed malpractice claims again them, there will be huge civil rights repercussions and lawsuits advocating for patient rights and for damages, probably leading to a change in this law.

    The time to start advocating for change is NOW before the horse gets out of the barn and runs loose with our rights. It’s time to bar the door and protect patient rights in this country.

    • wb frank

      Mental health… doesn’t the Government have access now… remember that if you had a mental illness – I have a friend who is worried since he wants to buy a handgun for self defense and has a history of depression, hospital, psychiatrist – you CANNOT buy a gun.
      BTW bypass buying a gun from a gun store: then the Government will know just what you have a where you live. Buy from a private owner, stock up on ammunition, get good safety training… look:

      frontsight.com

  • Lewis Curlee

    Something seems amiss about the Kintner invitation to sign up for Medicare at Ryans. You sign up at the Social Security office. I suspect this is some private insurance trying to sound as if it is governmnet related. I do think that these electronic records will remove all privacy, and ultimately result in rationing of medical care, especially to the elderly.

    • Salmon

      Lewis hit the nail on the head! Canadians and Brits alike have issues with getting treatment in a timely fashion: could it be they already have the new improved Obamanomics working there?

      • wb frank

        thanks about the reminder about the Brits Salmon… remember they have let
        Sharia law in the front door!
        you know, from those people who have such a loving religion: Islam…

  • Nelly Petersen

    We need to get our values back. When our dollar is going to be worth 10 cents and for every 10.dollars we will have 1 dollar, it happened in other countries. Maybe we will wake up. I believe our conservative values will help our country instead of what is happening now with the liberals such as Obama, Polosi and Barney and all of those others that are making decisions for us. Lets get back to not spending 2. dollars for every 1. dollar we earn.

    • Foolpatrol

      What values? Lax parenting and permissive teenage sexual behavior as long as a shotgun wedding follows the blessed birth? No wonder Levi opted out.

      • wb frank

        yes, and Levi had committed statutory Rape

        • Foolpatrol

          Then why did McSame and Sarah “give me free” present Levi to the RNC and the world as her “son in law to be”? Political expedience? Rape most peoples daughter and you don’t get honorable mention! So, Sarah “give me free” threw her daughter (and her special needs child) to the wolves for blind ambition? Thank God she’s in Alaska. Hope she stays right there watching Russia. You Betcha!

      • Nelly

        I believe Bristol and Levi decided to wait to get married. I am not one to throw stones. This can happen to anybody. I guess to blame the parents for what the kids do, is behond me. We all have a choice and that includes our kids. I am not condoning anybody getting pregnant outside of marriage, but do not feel we should judge — it may happen to your kids too.

  • Sword Axe

    Universal health care is a joke, why don’t we teach health provention in our own home and keep the government out of our lives, I think most doctors are tied down by the greed of corperation that make equipment and insurerance that drive up the cost of health I don’t want to pay for others health care I want to pay for my own. Wake Up People we don’t need the government to be mommy and daddy to run our house hold because by the way we have right to life, liberty and the persuit of happieness you want to be unheathy why should I pay for it. By the way God has number of the hairs on my head that all I need government.

    • wb frank

      another thing that drives up the cost of healthcare: TRIAL LAWYERS… we need Tort Reform and get ALL of the lawyers out of Senate and the House.

    • Foolpatrol

      Any kind of health care is welcome and certainly not a joke to working poor, uninsured, Americans. I didn’t know that we could cure cancer and all manner of conditions and sickness by merely teaching prevention in our homes. If you have a secret to prevent these lifethreatening conditions, please let the world know!

      • Sword Axe

        GET DOCTOR BRAVERMAN BOOKS, GO TO BINNY HINN .ORG GOD GAVE FOOD DON’T DISTORT THE FOOD, LEARN WHAT FOOD CAN DO FOR AND NATURAL HERBS AND BY ALL MEANS PRAY FOR DIRECTION IN YOUR HEALTH. AND MAYBE NOT ALL HEALTH CARE IS A JOKE BUT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GETS INVOLVED IT CAN BE, BECAUSE THEY’LL START TELLING WHERE WE CAN GO, AND I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY HMO EVERYTIME I NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER DOCTOR. YES WE SHOULD HELP THE POOR DON’T GET ME WRONG BUT WHAT DO WE AS AMERICA IN TEACHING OUR CHILDREN, ARE WE LAZY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR EDUCATION IN NUTRITION. NO NOT ALL THEIR IS A PRINCECIPAL TEACHING ABOUT GOOD FOOD BUT GOD IS THE ALTIMATE TEACHER IN WHAT WE SHOULD EAT, WOULD YOU LIKE PAYING FOR MY HEALTH CARE IF ATE WHAT EVER I WANTED AND PUT THINGS IN MY BODY I SHOULDN’T?

      • THE WALRUS

        THERE ISN’T A HOSPITAL IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WILL REFUSE TO TREAT A PERSON WITH OR WITH OUT “COVERAGE”

        ID IS NOT REQUIRED & ILLEGALS LINE UP @ ALL BORDER HOSPITALS CLOGGING THE SYSTEM FOR TAXPAYERS

  • Agnes

    I am opposed to any of the new laws, etc that Obama and his group are bringing on so fast that people can’t even keep up with what is happening. Thanks for your help in keeping us aware of what is happening.
    I am opposed to the stimulis, its just putting the US in deeper debt, the ones that are getting it aren’t using it wisely.
    I definitely am against the new health care program, it does not seem to be anything that will help us. The Canadians are not happy with it, maybe the big leaders are, because they don’t have to live under it. Our leaders probably won’t have to live under or with it. They will probably be protected by their own special insurance. Can you please address the issue of health care and see if you can get some petitions going for it soon?

  • Robert Wheeldon

    For those of you who did not notice, the republic ended when Congress passed TARP. The United Socialist States of America now owns a controlling interest in Americas banks. Soon the USSA will own a controlling interest in the health care industry and the domestic auto industry.

    Folks, you lost your country.

    I grieve for my children and grandchildren.

    • wb frank

      Robert, you forgot about the Energy Industry. Just look at the great things that the love child of the Hollywood Elite has done! Yes, that Citgo owner: Hugo Chavez. Remember:Boycot CITGO and put it out of business…

  • Don D

    Just for you all to notice, I was challenge by FOOLPATROL of my post #9.
    I responded back to him which is posted right under my original post #9 if anyone would care to read that post too.

    Ron J – Post #10 – you got it right and yes we are up and running! Salmon already replied to you.

    This website is a Patriotic website across the Nation. Many discussions and Ideas plus the revolution that others are talking about has already begun HERE.
    It is ‘ http://www.resistnet.com ‘ – come and see for yourself and sign in and stay up-to-date – the more the better!

  • Kelly

    The minute she mentioned BO’s ineligibility – and as there was a murmur growing in the audience – Roberts stopped her or rather cut her off, and said he’d take a look at the doucments. He didn’t want anyone to hear what she had to say…

    http://www.spokesman.com/audio/2009/mar/15/roberts-question/

    Click on the play button next to the audio embedded at the page at the top to hear the actual conversation between Orly and Justice Roberts when she asks her question

    Also… this is an interesting video summarizing the movie The Obama Deception

    Alex Jones film explanation on The Obama Deception
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8tZ1WIEtD0

  • Hans Nielsen

    WHY WAIT? START IMPEACHMENT PROCEDURES NOW AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY!

    • wb frank

      ditto! Don’t be a Sheep!

    • wb frank

      Don’t be a Sheep!

  • Hans Nielsen

    Are you trying to pull the wool over my eyes? Typical democrat response . NEVER a clear answer nor question.

    • wb frank

      sorry but I agree with much you say. Just trying to make a point… NOT a Democrat but a Conservative. And yes, I too know all about Socialism. And Barry Soetoro

  • wb frank

    I did not mean to de-mean anybody by typing sheep… just making a point

  • Maryjane

    All I can say on this is look at what Tony Blair did with England..socialized medicine…not the way to go.

  • Char

    I was impressed with the views of this individual and thought it worthy of passing on.

    Dr. Sam Vaknin is an Israeli psychologist. Interesting view on our new president.
    Dr. Vaknin has written extensively about narcissism.
    Dr. Vaknin States “I must confess I was impressed by Sen.Barack Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident – a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi “religious” impact on so many people. The fact that Obama is a total incognito with zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.”
    Barack Obama is a narcissist.
    Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).. Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao,Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom. When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse.
    “Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,” says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant (two years old). Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia , a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white)grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. She died of cancer in 1995″.
    One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and do not deserve their attention.
    If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “present” vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him. Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.
    The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.
    Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself? Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month.
    A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who has raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power.
    A narcissist cares for no one but himself. This election is like no other in the history of America . The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world? I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others…They are simply self serving and selfish.
    Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous.
    Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks have also decided to vote for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple. The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites..
    The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism.. This will cause a backlash among the whites.
    The white supremacists will take advantage of
    the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960′s.
    Obama will set the clock back decades… America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America , and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.
    It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House.. America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.

  • The Captain

    Obama is NOT a Constitutional standing president of the United States Corporation. He was born in Kenya and cannot show a viable, certified US birth certificate. He is a fraud in an empty suit with all of his spoken words scripted for him. This is the reason that he has spent 900,000 plus USD on attorneys to this point in time, blocking all attempts to get the US Supreme Court to hear the cases already filed against him as an illegal standing president. The power elite, i.e. world controllers, needed this puppet to push the New World Order forward for the further control of the masses.
    We could write volumes in regard this issue but space is hereby limited. The people in AmeriKa need to awake from the deep sleep and see behind the curtain of the Wizard in Oz or all will be soon asked for “papers please”!

    • http://AmericanLibertyPost Marci

      am FAR from a fan of the BIG O, but he is bad enough without spreading rumors about his birth;he was born in Hoholulu of an American woman & Kenyan father, which would at least give him dual citizenship, had he not been born in USA. There are the problems of his writing in college [sociolistic] and associoation with Ayres, Rev Wright, and ACORN thea should have told the American people the he is bad news, but too many were blinded by “HOPE & CHANGE” Join together with Glen Beck , Shawn Hannity and others to have a symbolic Tea Party on April 115. There are ways we can let the power-brokers in Washington, D.C. know the the people are ANGRY!

    • Bob Miller

      The MSM did not discuss this… the Demoncrats and SHYSTER Obama did not want the American People know about this part of the HIDDEN STIMULUS package.

      If you follow the logic. All doctors, all hospitals any Medical information on you will be stored on a NEWLY created data base. This is mandatory… YOU DO NOT HAVE AN OPTION. . At some point in time.. there will be a Committee that will determine the type of health care you received. (National Health Care) This logic is… you get better health care when you are younger and as you grow older… someone will determine the cost effectiveness you receive.

      This is the type of health care available in Europe and Canada, and you wonder why those that can afford the best medical care come to the United States.

      SHYSTER Obama has had a mission in life… he says it initially was to be governor on ILL.. but the Democratic Party saw a chance to gain control of the United States. He and his supporters spent in excess of 750 Million dollars on buying the American Voters. He had ACORN rally all BLACKS AND HISPANICS (promise of more welfare, and citizenship). He has hidden all written documentation of his formative years… high School, college, he has had any reference to his college being paid for by the KING that he SUBMITTED to while in Europe. He declares that American is not only a Christians… he sells the Muslims that he is UNDERSTANDS THEM and is one with them in not being at war with Islam.

      FOLKS unless we rally round the FLAG and not around the Demoncrats, or Repuglicans and allow OBAMA to DESTROY from America from within it will be a long life time under the man that would be POTUS for LIFE.

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW

  • Roger

    How did O’bama run and win the highest office in the land with out a birth certificate??

    You try and get a passport with out one. I know he has tons of money and power backing him but why isn’t anyone making a point of this?

    I would have thought someone would have the b—s to challenge the birth certificate issue.

    America is going down fast. God help us.

  • Gordon McDonald

    O, goodness me! The sky is falling…………..

    ‘Chicken Little’

    • Howard

      Gordon,

      Just keep sticking your head in the sand.

  • Shannon

    During the last Republican debate at the Reagan Library, I saw what Libertarians were really like. They were rude, smoked pot in the Starbuck’s bathroom, and yelled at folks who didn’t support their dear Ron Paul . I would never vote for a person that believes in legalizing every vice known to man. The actions of Ron Paul supporters did a great disservice to him, and I would never consider voting for a Libertarian candidate after witnessing their antics. I voted for Huckabee, and would vote for him again. A compassionate, wise man who loves this country. A true public servant.

  • Miriam Harper

    Barack Obama is fulfilling the dreams of his father which was to change Kenya into a Marxist country. His father believed it was o.k. to take all of your money and let the government provide your needs.

    Obama is doing this in the United States.

    “Elections Have Consequences”

  • http://www.gopetition.com/online/26241.html Marlene B.

    Sign Petition To Stop Television Prescription Drug Ads

    Published by Marlene B. on Mar 18, 2009
    Category: Health
    Region: GLOBAL
    Target: U.S. Congress, FCC, FDA, European Commission, EMEA

    Background (Preamble):
    Statistics prove prescription drugs are 16,400% more deadly than terrorists. According to the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 1998, a report finds that prescription drugs kill about 106,000 Americans each year – that’s three times as many as are killed by automobiles—making prescription drug death the fourth leading killer after heart disease, cancer and stroke.

    Last year, the Journal of the American Medical Association puts death from all drugs, illegal and prescription, second only behind car accidents as a cause of death.

    The rise in deaths coincides with the direct marketing of prescription medication to the public. Prescription drug sales have soared nearly 500 percent since 1990.

    The pharmaceutical industry is a multi-trillion dollar business. Companies spend billions on advertising and promotions for prescription drugs. Pharmaceutical companies claim their drug ads are “educational” to the public. The public seems to genuinely believe that drugs advertised on TV are safe, in spite of the plethora of side effects listed. Many of these drugs have proven deadly.

    Every day it’s estimated 2,500 teens abuse a prescription pain killer for the first time.

    The White House Office of National Drug Control policy had been planning to unveil an ad campaign to target prescription drug abuse by teens. It is time to stop this form of advertising by the pharmaceutical companies.
    Petition:
    We, the undersigned, request that Congress, the FDA (Food and Drug Administration), the FCC (Federal Communications Commission), the European Commission, EMEA (European Medicines Agency) stop all television advertising of prescription drugs.
    THE LAST TIME A CURE WAS FOUND FOR A DISEASE
    WAS 1959. DR. JONAS SALK DEVELOPED THE VACCINE
    FOR POLIO. HE WAS JUST ONE MAN.
    SINCE THAT TIME, HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
    HAVE BEEN SPENT ON DISEASE. NOT FOR A CURE, BUT FOR
    DRUG TREATMENT ONLY. A CURE WOULD PUT BIG
    PHARMA OUT OF BIZ. IT SHOULD BE THE JOB OF A PHYSICIAN
    TO PRESCRIBE THE BEST TREATMENTS TO A PATIENT, INSTEAD
    OF PATIENTS ASKING DOCTORS TO PRESCRIBE THESE DRUGS.
    BY ADVERTISING THESE DRUGS, THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES INVOLVE THEMSELVES IN A LEGAL DRUG TRADE THAT IS KILLING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

  • cricket

    I am angry that my right to privacy of my medical records has just been lost with the stimulus bill. If I go to a different Dr. for a second oppinion it is because I want a second view, I don’t want that Dr. to just read the previouse Dr’s oppinion. I guess that will limit a lot of medical cost but will we have the option to get that second oppinion or has that been taken away?

  • Barry

    The Liberal Socialist Party of America is now in charge lead by the extreme radical liberal Socialist Marxist Man Obama.

    The stupid 52,000,000 idiots who voted for him are still in the dark to his radical agenda.

    Goes to Europe and passes laws in the UN that will harm America and he has done more in 50 days to destroy America than our enemies in the last 200 years.

    It is time to Impeach the guy as he was not born in the US. He is the 1st illegitimate President in America.

    Make no mistake about the Obamanation that is now President,
    he is a radical,
    he is a Muslim,
    he loves Muslims and hates Jews,
    he kills babies,
    he smoked dope and did drugs in college,
    he is a liar,
    he is a kool-aid drinker,
    he is an idiot,
    he is a jerk,
    he hates Rush, Sean and Joe the Plumber,
    He has hit squads ready to go to destroy anyone who gets in his way (ask Sarah)
    he cheated with Acorn to win the election, & the nomination,
    he is a racist who hates people who do not agree with him or like him,
    he can not speak without a teleprompter,
    he is not that bright,
    he is not a hero,
    he is not a leader,’
    he is not that cool,
    he is hollywood,
    he is a media thrill seeker
    he is still on the campaign trail
    he is not going to help America or Americans,
    he is only concerned with his own legacy
    he will lose in 2012,
    he will try to enact gun control and force unions on American workers
    he will try to kill more babies
    he did not write those books
    he hates America and Americans calling us arrogant
    he is a Chicago thug politician who gives others the finger
    he is a showman
    he luvs to show off
    he luvs to bow down before Muslims
    he luvs Iran and hates Israel
    He gave $900M US tax payer dollars to terrorist recenty in the Middle East ( money goes to terrorist leaders)

    He blames America and Americans for hostilities towards us

    He will end up in hell next to Hitler.

    Anything else class……

  • Cris

    yes, there is something else…He doesn’t salute the FLAG, turns his back on it! He doen’t sing the National Anthem, drops his head duringthe playing of it..I saw this with my own eyes!

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