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Media Reports Suggest Internal Split In Tea Party, But Activists Disagree

July 22, 2010 by  

Media Reports Suggest Internal Split In Tea Party, But Activists DisagreeThe recent racial controversy involving one of the organizers of Tea Party Express, and the subsequent expulsion of the group from The National Tea Party Federation, appear to have splintered the movement that seemed to be heading towards a substantial victory in this year’s midterm elections.

In a sign of a possible rift, the Express lashed back on Monday, calling the removal “ridiculous” and claiming the Federation had no right to do so.

“The Tea Party Express with over 400,000 members is by far larger than the Tea Party Federation’s entire membership,” said its spokesman Joe Wierzbicki.

He added that this “perhaps explains why so many Tea Party groups have left the ‘Federation’ during the past few months.”

Wierzbicki also vowed to keep fighting to take back the country in November rather than engage in “silly power games.”

However, despite the hostile language the federation has been quick to play down the rift. Its spokesman, David Webb, called the racial controversy “an embarrassment,” but added that “this is not a split, so the gleeful left can put away the smiles.”ADNFCR-1961-ID-19899311-ADNFCR

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  • http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/ NH

    These people calling themselves ‘leaders’ are NOT leaders of any tea party we recognize. Therefore there cannot be a split as they are phonies.

  • Jackie

    Memo to The Tea Party Federation: Do not fall into the Dems divide & conquer trap!

  • dan of arizona

    Dan3803 of AZ:

    This just gives me “the hope and change” warm feeling all over the place!!

    Subject: Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov.. The announcement earlier this week, that Andrew (Andy) Stern, President of the SEIU would be resigning very quickly, is very interesting considering.
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    This just gives me “the hope and change” warm feeling all over the place!!

    Subject: Special army unit ready to be deployed on American soil just before Nov.. The announcement earlier this week, that Andrew (Andy) Stern, President of the SEIU would be resigning very quickly, is very interesting considering. What is said in this article about him and his Union Thugs.

    In October of this year, one month prior to the November midterm elections, a special army unit known as ‘Consequence Management Response Force’ will be ready for deployment on American soil, if so ordered by the President.

    The special force, which is the new name being given to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division, has been training at Fort Stewart, Georgia and is composed of 80,000 troops.

    According to the Army Times, they may be called upon to help with civil unrest, crowd control or deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

    The key phrase is, ‘may be called upon to help with civil unrest.’ This afternoon, a local radio talk show host reported that he’d been in contact with a member of the military. This military source stated that the armed forces have been alerted to the strong possibility that civil unrest may occur in the United States this summer, prior to the midterm elections of 2010.

    The source described this as ‘our long, hot summer of discontent’ that could be eerily reminiscent of the summer of 1968 when riots broke out in many of our largest cities.

    However, the summer of 2010 could well be much worse due to the players involved. In 1968 the major players were war protesters. This time, the outrage simmering beneath the surface of American society involves a broad cross-section of the heartland, and most of them are heavily armed.

    It’s highly unlikely these citizens would ever initiate armed conflict of any kind. In their view, gun rights are for self-defense, and for defense against tyrannical government, which our Founders regarded as the most dangerous force on earth.

    However, it’s become clear that other groups may well initiate violence in order to start an ‘incident’ that would give Obama and a rogue Congress a reason to implement martial law, confiscate the citizens’ guns, enforce curfews, and suspend all future elections until such time as it’s deemed ‘safe’ to proceed with human liberty as encapsulated in the right to vote.

    Tea Party members, for example, have been warned in recent days that members of Andy Stern’s SEIU union and members of the organization formerly known as ACORN plan to infiltrate Tea Party gatherings in order to incite some sort of incident that could result in armed conflict. (HELLO!!..This has already been reported on FOX News!)

    In addition, all indications point to a humiliating defeat for the Democrats and Obama in November. Not only will the House in all likelihood transfer to Republican control, but it’s increasingly possible for the Democrats to lose the Senate as well. There are Left-wing groups in this country that would use whatever means necessary to prevent that from happening.

    ACORN has already gone underground, changing its name so as to fly beneath the radar screen. How many people will the group register to vote illegally? With Obama’s plan to naturalize between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens, a brand new voter base for the Democrats will be in place prior to November.

    Add to this the growing unrest over continued high unemployment, the coming spike in interest rates and inflation, and the still-boiling outrage over the manner in which Obama and the Democrats shoved ObamaCare down the throats of the citizens, and all of the ingredients are present for a major F-5 tornado to sweep across the heartland.

    To what extent would soldiers use deadly force during such ‘civil unrest’ should the Consequence Management Response Team be utilized? During the anti-war riots of the 1960s they killed student protesters. What about now?

    The military source cited by the radio host today was asked this very question. He would merely say that the culture of the U.S. military is changing; half support Obama and the other half are dead-set against him. His conclusion? There’s no way to know for sure if they’d obey an order to open fire on ordinary citizens.

    Update: The Cato Institute published this warning when the program was launched in its first phase in 2008 (the program has been updated and expanded since 2008). The Founders insisted that standing armies were never to be used against American citizens on our own soil, no matter what violations of this principle have occurred in the years following. In the spirit of the Patriots and of real journalists, government must be questioned constantly and held to intense scrutiny in order to preserve liberty.

    How’s that for change? Don’t you feel better now? I hope you’re prepared.

    • Rick Gottlieb

      Cut out the paranoia. There is zero evidence that our current (admittedly left-wing) government is about to stage a coup to overthrow the legitimate institutions of power. If you don’t like the folks in power, vote them out. Don”t scare others into believing Democrats are un-Democratic just because their beliefs are contrary to yours.

      • Bruce

        Mr. Godlife, As a Democrat myself as well a TRUE liberal, when I have intel that relates to something thats posted I don’t think that has anything to do with a case of paranoia.
        I strongly feel it has to do with fact when I know my sorces to be straight up.
        Perhaps you should ask more questions before you make any claims that a post is hate based, or for other reasons such as being based some form of paranoia.
        Keep in mind the old company motto, “a healthy dose of paranoia is perfect awareness.”

      • Allan

        Many people in Germany said the same thing in the 1930′s because it seemed so unlikely. Then by the 1960′s, they began saying it never happened…because it seemed so unlikely.

      • Ted Crawford

        I don’t think he’s talking about the Democrats! I believe he is reffering to the progressives who have hy-jacked the Democrats party, and to a much lesser degree the Republicans as well!!!!

    • Bruce

      Dan, Oddly I live in Georgia, and have heard rommor of such over the last number of months, so you may well have something solid. If you don’t mind my asking Where did you get the intel, as in how straight is it?
      Please don’t name names for the sake of their protection I understand how that works. I know of a number of people who work at the base so thats where my intel comes from, at first I thought they were pulling my leg.

    • Ted Crawford

      Dan; You might also want to research EO-13524! It was enacted a little over a year ago and seems to give obama complete control over all NATO forces stationed on our soil! If we wonder about the domestic troops, how much more must we wonder about the foreign ones?

  • Robert

    Who believes what the media says these days? I wouldn’t trust them if your life depended on it.

  • s c

    Gee, I wonder why the media would make such a claim. Is this yet more media “objectivity”? Could it be that any dissent represents a threat to Washington’s status quo?
    Conservatives could claim there are major rifts among progressives. Just before America was saddled with The Anointed One, Jesse Jackson doubted Obama’s ‘blackness,’ and made an additional remark that would have resulted in an immediate arrest if a conservative made it.
    Bubba Clinton recently remarked that at one time, Mr. Obama would have served him his coffee. Biden [Motormouth Joe] recently admitted that America has
    lost MILLIONS of jobs that ‘won’t be coming back’ (compliments of ‘The Anointed One’). And, a certain ex-VP is getting filthy rich via an inferior, dangerous oil dispersant in the gulf of Mexico.
    Let progressives whiz and moan about their own flaws. Conservatives endured generations of worthless media ‘wisdom’ and utter stupidity disguised as “progress.” Turnabout is at long last here, progressives.

  • dave

    Since no TEA party member I know belongs or will belong to a national TEA affiliation, there can be no split because we are leaderless and will keep it that way. If there is no snake, its head can’t be cut off.

    • JeffH

      dave, since the one and only “original” Tea Party movement began, the whole Tea Party monicker has been hi-jacked by all who want that will identity “brand” for their own political gain. Why is it that almost all the politicians and wannabes that never used the “conservative” label are now using it for political gain.
      Buyer beware, that is the only sound advice I can give…there has been and is only one “original grassroots” Tea Party movement and all of the rest are wannabes, including any and incumbents. That doesn’t neccessarily make them “bad”, but they ain’t speaking for or representing the Tea Party movement I am associated with.

  • Jeff in OH

    The Tea Party has one leader and that is the Constitution

    • Rush Housel

      “AND THE BEAT GOES ON” THE LIBERAL MEDIA WILL SAY ANYTHING TO HELP BREAK UP ANY MOVEMENT AGAINST THE LIBERALS, SOCIALIST AND THE PROGRESSIVE PHILOSOPHY. THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS LIED SO OFTEN THEY HAVE LOST TRACK OF THE TRUTH. AMERICA, IT’S A SHAME, BUT THERE IS NO ONE WE CAN TAKE AT THEIR WORD!!! ESPECIALLY OUR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

    • JeffH

      Jeff in OH, thank you…simply said.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO: Jeff in OH,i agree with you 100 PER CENT.And may GOD BLESS THIS NATION ALWAYS.

  • IKE PENRY

    I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN. I TRULY AGREE WITH JEFF IN OHIO. THE CONSTITUTION IN ITS ORIGONAL FORM IS THE ONLY TRUE AMERICAN PARTY.
    TO ME IT SEEMS THAT THE OTHER 2 PARTYS ARE MORE LIKE SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS. I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE ARE TRYING TO DESTROY OUR FORME OF GOVERNMENT. WE NEED TO CLEAN HOUSE. VOTE THEM OUT , ONE AND ALL.
    MY VOTE NOW IS FOR THE REPUBLICAN THAT ISN”T THERE NOW.
    I AM A RETIRED MARINE. I RAISED MY HAND AND SWORE TO GOD TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AGAINST ALL ENEMYS FOREN AND DOMESTIC. AND I WIL SO HELP ME GOD. IT SEEMS THAT THE ENEMY IS DOMESTIC. THE FIRST WEPON IS MY VOTE.
    IHAVE TALKED TO A LARGE NUMBER OF FRIENDS AND THEY ALL AGREE WITH ME.

    • SCPatriot

      High fives and Semper Fi! These are the weapons of the Tea Party and each of us individually, in order of deployment:

      Our voice- spread the word of constitutional government as envisioned by the Founders. “All men are created equal.” That moral compass has guided great leaders from then to today, including MLK.

      Our money- We must learn the art of economic warfare. Deprive the enemy of their supply, ensure a supply to friends of freedom. Example: Cancel your newspaper subscription if the paper is part of the liberal media propaganda machine. Then donate the monthly subscription cost to a Tea Party candidate or any number of Conservative organizations.

      Our vote- an uncast vote is a waste of your power.

      Our arms- most of us have only academically thought of the need for arms until recently. But the relentless tyranny of this administration and congress suggest that they are willing to do anything to push the socialist agenda. The Federalist papers, among other contemporary documents, lay out the conditions under which they EXPECT the American people to rise up against the federal government. Many, if not all, of those conditions have been met or are in play right now. This option is left to us if all of the above weapons are rendered moot and unavailable.

      Our lives- many of us have never seriously considered that it may be necessary to endanger our lives for our country. Those who serve and have served in our military have considered it and found it necessary. We owe it to those patriots to take the same oath as citizens that they have taken as service members to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, domestic and foreign.

      As we expect from our government in international relations, it must be made clear to all who are engaged in dismantling our constitutional representative republic that NONE of the above options are “off the table”.

  • Joseph C. Moore, USN Ret.

    These are difficult times. We have been lied to by politicos of both parties who were running for election. They ALWAYS promise to be constitutional, balance the budget, reform egregious laws etc., and then, when elected proceed to pile more restrictions on personal behavior, add grossly to the debt, kowtow to foreign interests (specifically, the UN) and ignore the will and interests of the public. I do not trust the Democratic party or the (Neo-con) Republican party to reform their wanton behavior. I am a Libertarian and will vote Libertarian, but do not see a leader there who will appeal to the majority of the citizenry. Where are all the good men (people) who would return this country to its unique founding principles?

    • IKE PENRY

      EVERYONE AGREES THAT THE LIBERAL MEDIA IS BAD. I SAY HIT THEM WHARE IT HURTS. BOYCOT THE SPONCERS PRODUCTS . SHORTAGE OF MONEY MAY CHANGE THE WAY THEY TALK.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Since the conservative supreme court ruled earlier this year that corporations can act as individuals in elections our elections will be basically thrown to whoever gains favor with big business. Those who are elected-backed by corporations will be, as almost always in the past, beholden to corporate interests.

    • Allan

      Where are the good people? I think in the last few decades a whole generation of civic minded patrons has been sued, protested, and scorned into retreat. A civic avoidance began to set in at the municipal government level. I see it as the deterioration of decency, responsibility, and common sense. We’ve lately heard liberals complain about decency in relation to tea partyers’ strong opposition to government. That is not what I mean by decency. In their superior wisdom, many in our society, including educational institutions, simply no longer want conservative, patriotic views expressed — because those views impede “global sustainability”. To support this they riot, spit on the flag, excoriate America, try to erase all traces of belief in God, and complain 24 x 7. This is about pure selfishness in my mind. They essentially don’t have the slice of power and wealth they feel entitled to. As with disruptive children in the supermarket, others have either tried to placate them, or simply retreated from the indecency. These disruptive children in the supermarket of ideas have perverted the right of free speech, a fragile privilege requiring responsibility and decency. I saw this play out in a municipal setting about twenty years ago. An older, very accomplished and civic minded group had envisioned and created a port district for the economic future of their town. Along came a strident, politically correct, activist group that made the governing process hell, up to and including mailbox bombs and physical fights in chambers. The civic patrons finished their terms and left one by one, shaking their heads in frustration and sadness. The activists gradually populated the commission and redefined the purpose of the district…in such a way that businesses whose products or services were deemed politically incorrect either left or looked elsewhere to invest. To this day, the district sits stagnant. I remember the respectful, older volunteer commissioners at the county fair and fourth of July festivities, enthusiastically answering any questions about their models and architectural renderings of what could have been. Those activists…ended up personally profiting on uses of the district they had strategically restructured.

  • Raggs

    Betcha this is an attempt by the progressives to break down the tea-party… Ya know the “ole” infiltrate and corrupt from the inside trick. No doubt there are plants in the tea-party.

    • alpha-lemming

      Been documented. The self-professed “white-racist” who became the poster child for MSDNCs Tea Party coverage was shunned by Partiers in the vicinity (“he is not with us”… “he does not represent our views” etc.). What’s not been (may never be) determined is… was he a lone nut or a “crashtheparty” soldier. Regardless… He obviously was out of place amongst the attending Patriots.

  • FreedomFighter

    No sane person of any color wants to be hit with the RACIST stigmatization. Its better the air is cleared now so that the real work of removing the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive Communist elements can continue.

    The Progressive/Communist left is playing the race card to distract both blacks and whites and probably anyone else from realizing:

    Totalitarian Marxist’s enslave everyone to the utopian god-state.

    This race baiting distraction keeps both sides from concentrating and focusing on who the real enemy is – Marxist/socialist/Progressives who would enslave our children to the goverment- white, black, yellow or red, latino and none latino.

    They the Marxist divide and pit each group against the other, distrating us, as they enslave all.

    I can think of no man that wants to be a slave to the state. Millions upon Millions come to America for the FREEDOM based upon the constitution of the United States. The worlds populations do not seek out Communist states, risk life and limb crossing the borders into North Korea, China, or Russia to find a better life.

    They flee those countries for the chance of a better life, freedom and place to raise a family. The place they flee to is America, and it sure the hell isnt because of Marxist’s goverment policies.

    FF

  • Mike N.

    Just wanted to share a thought on the media. The republican candidate for gov of pa said that extending unemployment benifits will likely disuade people from looking for work. The dems jumped all over that with the statement that he was insesitive to the plight of the unemployed. When word came that congress passed the extension the media asked Tom Corbett, the rep. candidate what he thought about it and he said ” It is what it is. Let’s put it behind us and start the task of creating jobs.” And so the media reported that Tom had backed away from his previous stance. Maybe I’m wrong, but, that statement didn’t sound like a flip-flop to me. Just wondering what others think.

  • chuck b

    freedomfighter

    i agree with your concept, however i disagree with your estimation of the philosophy of these immigrants. for the most part these people from mex, latin amer. and the caribbean islands are not seeking what the u.s. stands for unless you mean the dollar or welfare. they have no concept of what our country stands for more than a free lunch. the majority of them come from semi dictatorships and socialist countries and this is all they know, thats why they are easy prey for the democrats and they will vote for the same type of government they claim to be fleeing from. the mexicans for the most part think they are recovering the land we took from them. barry is willing to give it back to them.
    some of the countries these people are coming from have posters hanging in public places in their cities telling them how to apply for welfare benefits when they get here. they are not the same kind of immigrant that originally settled here.

  • Chris

    It is funny the way these career polititions are jumping on the wagon of the tea party, here in Indiana Mike Pence & Dan Burton annonced they are part of the Tea party, these 2 bozos have been in power too long & I believe that they are scared they might loose this fall, I just wish Richard Lugar was up for election this fall, my last letter to him I told him he was a closet democrat, & that I was done writing letters to him,He announced yesterday that he supports Elen Kagan?? He was one of two Republicans that voted against the bill this spring that would have made it a Federal law that my gun permit would be reconized in all 50 States, Just like my drivers license. This bill failed by two votes in the Senate!! Also Evan Bahy has anounced he is not running again! He has figured it out. These career polititions should be scared it is time for every one of them to go. They refuse to represent us, They represent the corporate elite of Americe & that is all. We must elect polititions that understand America is FIRST!!!! Nafta must be revoked!!! taxes must start be collected as TARRIFFS,I want my clothes & shoes made here in the USA, All we have done is Made Chinas war machine a monster, by moving our jobs over there. The UN must be removed for our soil. We have to stop meddeling in other countries affairs, pump our own oil, burn our own coal, secure our borders, Bring our military home, we do not need to be in every country in the world with our military!! No more foriegn aid to all theses countries that use our money to make there polititions rich & screw the populace that it was sent to help. If there not stealing this foriegn aid. then they are using it to build there war machines, to kill our fine men & woman!! The IMF is a Joke, we have to stop supporting them,all they do is loan money to countries that cant afford it, then they tell them how they must run there country, That is why they hate Hugo Chaves, when he took over the oil wells in his country he paid them off & told them he would no longer be held hostage by the IMF. yes he is a wanna be dictator, but so are lots of other leaders that do bow down to the Elites that run the IMF, because they want to line there own pockets. This stupidity must stop!You have been warned the career crooks want to stay in power, they will lie cheat, say they are part of the Tea Party, & they are not. Educate your self, listen to the left & the Right & go vote for new blood on Capitol Hill before it is too late. I pray Divide & Conquer will not work this time. This is not A Democrat or Republican issue.Not Black or White or what ever color you are, this is a people issue, the One Worlders cant win!

    • Yankee Will

      Whoo Hoo Chris! You used a big hammer to hit that spike directly on the head! Keep up the good work…you are not alone in your thinking!

    • Jackie

      As a former Hoosier I would probably move back just to cast a vote against Tricky Dick Lugar & My Bitch Mitch is cut from the same RINO mold.

  • don l.

    TO THE TEA PARTY: PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL WHO YOU DEAL WITH AND BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY. THE LIBERAL PROGRESSIVES ARE WAITNG FOR YOU TO MAKE AN ERROR. THEY ARE LOSERS AND LOSERS LIKE TO PLAY THE BLAME GAME. I WENT TO A TEA PARTY RALLY IN AUGUSTA GA. NEVER MET SO MANY GOOD HONEST PEOPLE IN MY LIFE.

  • Jim H.

    When they can’t refute the stand on the issue, the Libs resort to smears and lies and hope the people fall for it. They must be running scared by now. You can tell how desperate they are by how nasty they get. They’re desperate.

    • JeffH

      …more recently I can’t recall when they haven’t been mean and nasty.

      • Jim H.

        JeffH, That’s because you or I can’t recall a time that they could refute our stand on the issues. They have always been wrong.

    • Jeep

      Jim, I resepctfully disagree…I think libs just figure that name calling, smears and lies are the FIRST line of defense!

      • JeffH

        …seems to be that way anymore…just read the libs comments on this website..

  • Marilyn

    I voted against Lugar the last time he was up for re-election! Last year I sent him a nasty letter about the way he votes and told him I DID NOT WANT AN ANSWER! As far as Pence goes he has done a better job than any of the others from Indiana. Burton has done a fair job but its time for a change from him! I am older and have been watching politics and politicians for a good many years! I am conservative and independent. Anyone who runs for office from now on should be grilled and investigated throughly as to their true beliefs and what they would do to right any wrong that would wound this state or/and this country! If they stray from their promises and their stated beliefs, impeachment should be brought to bear as soon as possible! A lot more people need to wake up to just what a mess this country is in and they must help to change it as soon as possible! By the way, Mitch took Indiana out of a horrible financial situation and moved us from the low forties up into the top ten in the 50 states, bringing a lot of business into Indiana and improving roads and infrastructure. He also brought back the “Rainy Day Fund” that the Democrats had spent in the first couple of years of their 16 year tenure. This state has NEVER been in as good of shape as it has been under him!

    • Chris

      My issue with Mitch is the fact that he is a Rino, & a globalist, he also worked for the Bush dynasty. The way Mitch got the surplus was to sell off I-90 94 in northern IN, these toll roads were sold to a corporation of foreign investors thru a Spanish corp named Centas, this road system is part of the planned NAFTA highway system that is being built thru out the USA, Our own I-69 extension that is being built right now with the same funds that gave us a surplus, is part of the same NAFTA highway system!!! Centas is the same company that is building in Texas & Kansas, Any thing, anybody, that supports Nafta, I will not support! I dont believe that any state should sell our soveriegn soil or roads to any foreign company that our tax dollars built & paid for, Note the 1st thing Centas did was put auto scanners in the toll road system, laid off 2000 workers & tripled the cost of the tolls! Way to go MY man Mitch.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Marilyn,
      always, always make them answer you!!! That is part of their job. I have sent my congressman over 300 E-mails and made them send me an answer every time!

    • Jackie

      The only reason Indiana is in decent fiscal shape is because the DEMS fought Taxman Mitch’s propsed tax increase. Talk about bizarro world! And not sure what you don’t like about Burton. When my mother was sick and we tried to get her treatment to save her life he was the only person to step up and help us. That man will always have my support.

  • JackB

    “The Hermanator”! Every one needs to check out Herman Cain – the perfect contrast to BHO. A black Reagan conservative. Talk about throwing a scare into the Lib/Dem/Progressive cabal – a black presidential candidate who will NOT play the race card. Google his name – you’ll be shocked!

  • hundabuxt

    chuck b and chris, you’re both in the 10 ring.

  • jopa

    JOHN BOEHNER made a comment on what he saw at the tea party he attended and said 75% of the people were very well adjusted disgruntled former Republicans and Democrats.However the other 25% looked like a bunch of racists, thugs ,murderers and rapists.Twenty five per cent is a large number so public beware.If any unusual or suspicious activity is seen at these teabagger meetings contact the authorities immediately.Your and your childrens safety is at stake.

  • mavis

    Just wishful thinking, they would literaly wet their pants if it were true. The Tea Party is doing well and getting stronger every day. It shows if you have right on your side good things just keep on happening. Long live the Tea Party and GOD bless America again!!!!!!!!!
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