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Media Ignore Alleged Liberal Murderer

February 8, 2013 by  

Media Ignore Alleged Liberal Murderer
Former police officer Chris Dorner is suspected of being behind a murder rampage in Los Angeles.

There has been a familiar media pattern regarding some of the recent mass killings and heinous crimes that have gripped the national psyche: The perpetrators are often described as being “angry conservatives,” “gun lovers,” “paranoid survivalists” or whatever else helps to portray liberty and Constitution-loving Americans as potential threats. But in the case of Chris Dorner, the former police officer suspected of being behind a murder rampage in Los Angeles, mainstream media have selectively ignored certain points in a manifesto left behind by the apparent madman.

Dorner was relieved of his job at the Los Angeles Police Department after it was discovered in 2009 that he lied about a fellow officer whom he’d accused of kicking a suspect. Dorner is allegedly out for revenge and has already reportedly shot and killed the daughter of the retired LAPD captain who’d represented him in the 2009 Board of Review hearing that resulted in his termination. In the manifesto, addressed to “America,” which can be read here, the man vows revenge on others as well.

There are also some interesting points in the manifesto that most mainstream news organizations haven’t addressed because they don’t fit the paranoid prepper gunman persona often assigned to shooters.

Dorner is a fan of Senator Dianne Feinstein, President Barack Obama and the assault weapons ban:

Sen. Feinstein, you are doing the right thing in leading the re-institution of a national AWB. Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family. That has become cliche’ and meaningless. Its time for action. Let this be your legacy that you bestow to America. Do not be swayed by obstacles, antagaonist, and naysayers. Remember the innocent children at Austin, Kent, Stockton, Fullerton, San Diego, Iowa City, Jonesboro, Columbine, Nickel Mines, Blacksburg, Springfield, Red Lake, Chardon, Aurora, and Newtown. Make sure this never happens again!!!

In my cache you will find several small arms. In the cache, Bushmaster firearms, Remington precision rifles, and AAC Suppressors (silencers). All of these small arms are manufactured by Cerberus/Freedom Group. The same company responsible for the Portland mall shooting, Webster , NY, and Sandy Hook massacre.

You disrespect the office of the POTUS/Presidency and Commander in Chief. You call him Kenyan, mongroid, halfrican, muslim, and FBHO when in essence you are to address him as simply, President. The same as you did to President George W. Bush and all those in the highest ranking position of our land before him. Just as I always have. You question his birth certificate, his educational and professional accomplishments, and his judeo-christian beliefs. You make disparaging remarks about his dead parents. You never questioned the fact that his former opponent, the honorable Senator John McCain, was not born in the CONUS or that Bush had a C average in his undergrad. Electoral Candidates children (Romney) state they want to punch the president in the face during debates with no formal repercussions. No one even questioned the fact that the son just made a criminal threat toward the President. You call his wife a Wookie. Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives. You call his supporters, whether black, brown, yellow, or white, leeches, FSA, welfare recipients, and ni$&er lovers. You say this openly without any discretion. Before you start with your argument that you believe I would vote for Obama because he has the same skin color as me, fuck you.

He gives a shout-out to the media and calls for citizenship for Piers Morgan:

Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite’s lead. I hold many of you in the same regard as Tom Brokaw and the late Peter Jennings. Cooper, stop nagging and berating your guest, they’re your (guest). Mr. Scarborough, we met at McGuire’s pub in P-cola in 2002 when I was stationed there. It was an honor conversing with you about politics, family, and life.

Willie Geist, you’re a talented and charismatic journalist. Stop with all the talk show shenanigans and get back to your core of reporting. Your future is brighter than most.

Revoke the citizenship of Fareed Zakaria and deport him. I’ve never heard a positive word about America or its interest from his mouth, ever. On the same day, give Piers Morgan an indefinite resident alien and Visa card. Mr. Morgan, the problem that many American gun owners have with you and your continuous discussion of gun control is that you are not an American citizen and have an accent that is distinct and clarifies that you are a foreigner. I want you to know that I agree with you 100% on enacting stricter firearm laws but you must understand that your critics will always have in the back of their mind that you are native to a country that we won our sovereignty from while using firearms as a last resort in defense and you come from a country that has no legal private ownership of firearms. That is disheartening to American gun owners and rightfully so.

He hates the National Rifle Association:

Wayne LaPierre, President of the NRA, you’re a vile and inhumane piece of shit. You never even showed 30 seconds of empathy for the children, teachers, and families of Sandy Hook. You deflected any type of blame/responsibility and directed it toward the influence of movies and the media. You are a failure of a human being. May all of your immediate and distant family die horrific deaths in front of you.

Obviously, Dorner is a deeply disturbed man, as is any person capable of mass murder. But the media continue to selectively report in cases where the story doesn’t fit the agenda of demonizing people suspicious of big government, big media and knee-jerk assaults on liberty. Some people would likely argue that Dorner’s manifesto makes a perfect example of why the current debate about violence should focus on mental health and not just guns. Would a man as motivated as Dorner obey stricter gun laws?

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • TPM

    If Obama gad a son …

  • burt

    Every shooting before was “right wing” fault, although it wasn’t…
    Now, obviously leftist murderer is not “left winger”??? WHY?
    Grreat description of press-titutes from Ted Nudgent:
    ““So when I saw the drooling, puking, stumbling, obnoxious, stinky, doped-up hippies attacking my perfect lifestyle as a conservationist and as an aim-small, miss-small marksman being disciplined to handle all tools, especially firearms, conscientiously and safely and lawfully and I saw the condemnation by the left and the commies and the hippies and the lefties, the doped-up buffoons in the world of the media, I was shocked at first. Then I realized if you smoked that much dope, one and one could equal three on occasion. So I fought back with logic and goodwill and humor

    • Tim L.

      Bottom line: Ted Nugent is still a self delusional moron, so who really cares what his opinion may be.

      • Annie

        Tim……PLEASE reply to the obvious intelligent query from Burt. That being, WHY is it that the MSM ALWAYS wants those mass murderers to be “right wingers”. Just WHEN will they actually label ALL of those mass murderers just what they are……”LEFT WINGERS” big time!

      • Scott Capullo

        Really Tim, really? Ted is, and always will be a better man than you, and all of the numbnut left following sheeple like you. It is obvious you do not understand freedom, and probably skipped out on your history classes. Maybe you associate with the “women” from the view better. Go straighten out your panties, they seem to be in a bunch.

      • Bill

        Tim Says
        “Bottom line: Ted Nugent is still a self delusional moron, so who really cares what his opinion may be”.

        The same could be said for your opinion, Tim

      • Steve E

        Tim, you just proved that you are an unconstitutional tyrant. Your time will come when the tide will turn where tyrants like you will get their just due.

      • roger

        Ted Nugent didn’t murder anyone, did he?…….get over youtself dolt.


        “Tim L.,”


      • Jana

        Tim L,
        What does it matter what his opinion may be? MAY BE??

        First of all We know what his opinion is. He is a leftist, Socialist, anti God as he says
        “Never again should any public official state that their prayers and thoughts are with the family.”

        Now if he would have been a person on the right the news media would have been all over this and been shouting that his actions are the result of the right wingers with their terrible ideas etc etc. They would have totally gone ballistic. So far most of these idiots that go on these killing sprees are of the left wingers, but this gets ignored by the left wing press and by the left wing people on this site.They don’t want to face these facts.

        Question: Do you know why they don’t want to face these facts?

        Answer: Because they are not really as interested in the truth as they proclaim they are, they are just interested in spreading their lame propaganda.

      • Guest

        Or yours for that matter Tim!

      • duane

        Same can be said of your obama and all of his cronies.

      • Kinetic1

        Steve E.
        Tim stated his opinion of Ted Nugent. Whether or not you agree with his opinion, how does this make him a “unconstitutional tyrant”? Is it now unconstitutional to suggest that Ted Nugent’s opinion is worthless?

      • Jana

        In my statement I was talking about Chris Dorner, not Ted Nugent by the way! I should have made that more clearly stated.




      • Warrior

        Seriously Chris, this is a “prime” example of how “sick” our society is becoming. L vs. R doesn’t matter. This situation is becoming much worse then the late 60′s. This leadership (and I use that term EXTREMELY loosely) is so divisive, it must be replaced starting right at the “top”. If you believe in the tenents of America’s founding, we need to get rid of all “progressive” thoughts and people of all “colors” need to begin “earning” a place in this society. There is no such thing as “utopia”. Each individual comes “in” alone and goes “out” alone. How you live your life between that period makes all the difference to each and every one of us. The Ten Commandments are the truist laws that anyone/everyone should dedicate themselves to. The rest will take care of itself.




        Theodore Robert Bundy WAS ALMOST AN ATTORNEY. John Wayne Gacy WAS A BUSINESSMAN. AND, Jeffrey Dahmer, OBVIOUSLY HAD WEALTH [he had the resources, time and space for freezing body-parts].


    • mark

      Yeah, Ted Nugent, the draft-dodging All-American patriot. People will fall for any loudmouth with a simpleton’s solution to problems they themselves have created.

      • phideaux

        “People will fall for any loudmouth with a simpleton’s solution to problems they themselves have created.”

        Perfect description of congress as a whole and especially the liberal democrats.

  • Thaddeus Toad

    Sam ….. This guys thoughts and political opinions matter not … who cares what he thinks …. The media focus is where it belongs ….HE IS A KILLER…. The fact that most of the rabid violence and law breaking is done by folks and groups like Occupy Wall st,.. Move along with a myriad of funded movements is an issue the media celebrates with a different tone…IMHO

    • Tim L.

      Yea he is a killer, but I have to agree with his assessment of Wayne LaPierre. I don’t agree with your view of the Occupy folks or Move On, sounds like you get your misinformation from FAUX NEWS.

      • Annie

        So Tim, please tell all of us just why you absolutely love the demented prez?

      • USAC

        What does the “L” stand for? Liberal,leftist Liar,Lunatic?
        Maybe all of the above?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Leftists seem to be more preoccupied with watching Fox news than any Conservatives or Libertarians on this site.
        Tim L., why do you have a need to watch Fox? What possessed me to ask, your comment gave the answer.

      • eddie47d

        Annie; Do you like the cold calculating and demented LaPierre? Do you enjoy his political theatrics of obfustication ?


        “Tim L.,”

        ON C-SPAN (21 DECEMBER) Wayne LaPierre SHOWED REMORSE [the anti-gun "hecklers" were the ones who diminished its effect]; HE MERELY DID NOT DEVISE THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR AN ORGANIZATION WHICH HAS IMAGE PROBLEMS.

      • duane

        Sounds like you get your news from msnbc which is as far to the loony bin left that it gets. At least Fox News can get a story straight with truth, justice and the American Way. So take your left wing puke and spew it on your left wing buddies and miss informed news bullsh**t crap news station.

    • harvey

      POINT 1. Excuse me but I am to understand that the proper term, in accordance to the 4th amendment, classifies him as an ALLEGED KILLER until proven guilty. POINT 2. The media portrays him as ex military with military training and continue to hammer that point home, in hopes he will be viewed as a conservative. POINT 3. ALL police officers are trained to a limited degree of military tactics in an urban environment. SWAT teams are even more extensively trained as kill squads entering a building and clearing it. CONCLUSION. The media as usual will portray the point they wish to make to the public and leave out any details contrary to that end.



        I DISAGREE.


    • http://Facebook Njegann

      I dont see why an alledgely bad cop turned sociopath and alledged criminal suspect should be viewed in a Right versus Left and anti-media political context.What is currently ongoing with Mr. Dorner is nothing new since we have in the past seen disgruntled workers,fired employees, workers coerced by their employers into what they perceive to be premature retirement,arm themselves and lethaly retaliate against what they view to be their unjust victimization by a more powerful workplace hierarchy.Perhaps the only difference here is the premeditated scripting and timed delivery of a ranting and jumbled “manifesto” which partially seems to be a desperate cry for help with acute mental health issues.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You also have not been paying attention to the pictures of ex police officer Dorner. The Leftist media have been showing him in pictures when he was in the military,drawing attention to his military training. I have seen very few pictures of Dorner in his police uniform. This is deliberate implanting that all soldiers are dangerous gun crazy killers.

      • eddie47d

        I’ve seen both and more of him in his police uniform so maybe its different news outlets we watch. I hate to tell you Nadzieja but anyone who kills someone is pissed off about something in life whether Liberal,Conservative, Military or civilian. Since this incident only happened two days ago isn’t PLD making a rush to judgement in the facts? That is what so many commentors here say about the regular media. “they don’t get their facts straight and overreact to what is happening”? When Sandy Hook happened commentors continually said not to believe anything and a couple said it didn’t even happen. Even today some say that Sandy Hook is too fresh to make decisions on gun laws. “We needs a longer cooling off period”. Yet here we have you and others making some strong statements about guilt and innocents and political affiliations. I reckon that makes both sides the same then right?

      • Wellarmed

        Eddie47d. I cannot believe what I am reading. You are Actually making sense! WOW!

        The shooting of the two RPD officers happened just down the street from where my wife teaches. My condolences go out to the officers family that was killed. I will lite a candle for him just as I did for officer Bonominio when he was killed with his own service weapon in Fairmont Park by a true POS that does not deserve to breath the air we breath.

        As I have said before; believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see. You may live a long and prosperous life by following that sage advice once given me.

        IF this manifesto is valid, then I would have serious reservations which would lead me to believe that the suspect may be suffering from PTSD. That is not condoning his actions, but may be just one circumstance that needs to be evaluated at his trial.

        I am incredibly thankful that he did not continue his rampage at my wife’s school. It was less than 5 minutes away and even if I was there I would have been unarmed due to California’s continued disregard of the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.

        This man (Officer Dorner) IS innocent until proven guilty. Charlie Beck should heed this warning and volunteer any information about Officer Dorner’s case involving the alleged incident that led to his dismissal. After years of hearing about abuses in the LAPD the truth finally came out regarding the Ramparts district and the fact that that cops there were not just breaking the laws that they were sworn to uphold, but where falsifying evidence, committing rapes, violent assaults, and murder.

        Please look up the thin blue line, and understand that even good cops rarely rat out bad cops. I do not have the evidence to lead to a proper decision either way in Officer Dorners case, but as far as the LAPD is concerned they are guilty until proven innocent.

        This manifesto means absolutely nothing to me, in the sense that all it does is prove that my theory is correct. Just as it is possible to shock commodities and measure the P and S waves to create a 3 dimensional map which can be used to manipulate markets, so can the media.

        You all are being played, and the tickets have a very high price. I do agree that the media is selectively responding to these types of events. If this is not a clear enough an indicator then nothing will be. TURN THE TV OFF! These media outlets are for entertainment purposes ONLY! They should only be viewed to discover the lie of the day, a good laugh, and switched off. ALL the major broadcast stations are making themselves irrelevant and no matter who they continue to fire for poor ratings, they will not recover market share do to the fact that they have lost all credibility.

        I pray that Officer Dorner surrenders himself, not only so he can receive a fair trial, but so that no one else has the misfortune of being being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Bad things will happen to good people everyday, that is why you must travel Wellarmed throughout your pursuits in life.

    • carrobin

      Most cops have those “liberal” views–they’re the ones most threatened by the guys with the assault weapons and cop-killer bullets. The guy may be crazy but his political views sound pretty reasonable to me.

      • Wellarmed

        The desire of the media has always been to pit the police against the citizenry. Please remember who pays their bills. Think; Political Action Committee. One must never forget the money trail and the fact that these donors want a (ROI) Return On Investment.

        I personally have no desire to limit speech for anyone, including corporations. The issue that I found troubling with the Citizens United case was the lack of transparency. And this last election cycle has proven me correct. 7 Billion and counting on both sides, and people have the nerve to tell me I wasted my vote while theirs was bought and sold.

  • Tom Cook

    The media of course will not suspect Dormer since he is related by complexion to their idol the halfrican.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      They have been paying attention because Dorner was ex military and the Leftists want all military to be villains.

      • Mike Austin

        You are exactly on the money right there. He is a disgraced, lying ex-cop. Obviously by his rant, a typical blame everyone but yourself liberal.

      • eddie47d

        If the shoe fits Nadzieja then put it on! Don’t be so naive to think that a few ex-military and those presently in the military don’t commit crimes or do terrible deeds. When they do it makes headlines so lay off your Liberal blame game! We as a nation do expect a higher standard from our military and police don’t we?

        • Bob Livingston

          Dear eddie47d,

          You write: “We as a nation do expect a higher standard from our military and police don’t we?” If you do you’ll be sorely disappointed. They are simply people and have the same attributes and failings as the rest of us.

          Best wishes,

      • phideaux

        ” Don’t be so naive to think that a few ex-military and those presently in the military don’t commit crimes or do terrible deeds.”

        That is not what Nadzieja said eddie and you d@mn well know it. She said the MSM over emphasized the military connection of him and other ex military who commit crimes.

      • eddie47d

        I don’t believe they have overemphasised his military duty and haven’t seen that myself. I’ve seen more of his police side of the story.

      • phideaux

        ” I’ve seen more of his police side of the story.”

        I have seen exactly TWO photos of him in a police uniform and one of them is the one at the head of this colum. All the other photos i have seen of him were in his military uniform or a few in civilian clothes. Even when mentioning his being a police officer they usualy show him in his military uniform.

      • Jana

        I have been thinking about this and you know the LAPD are Liberals, Dorner is a Liberal by the way he writes. What happened here? A liberal is supposed to have stabbed another liberal in the back????
        I thought Liberals were kind and caring. I thought they were the only ones on this planet that actually cared about their fellow man. Now you are saying that his fellow liberals did this to him?
        What is this world coming to when one liberal can’t even trust another liberal?

    • Wellarmed

      Mr. Cook,

      America is one hell of a country. I applaud the fact that you can make comments such as you have and not be prosecuted for them. That is FREEDOM.

      I happen to be a half breed myself. Part West Virginian Hillbilly and part American of Venezuela decent. I know racism in all its forms, and have had men in white robes burn crosses in the field behind my house as a child.

      Although I felt frightened by those acts at that time, my brown father ( not that his skin color matters? ) was very accepting of those individuals expressing their beliefs. It was good that they expressed those beliefs outdoors because if they had attempted to make entry at our home? Let’s just say this Venezuelan Immigrant was a great supporter of the second amendment.

      You are entitled not only to your opinions, but also your beliefs. I would never attempt to get between either.

      Sir, Our Country IS FALLING APART. At this time do you think it might be wise to focus on the issues that we agree on rather than the ones we do not?

      When you make such comments, it merely solidifies our divisions and that will ultimately be our downfall.

      Sir, Half of my family already lives under the thumbs of one tyrant, please do not let the other half fall to the same fate because of our divisions.

  • Mikey

    Burn this guy alive

  • Kgintovt

    This man lost his job because he lied about a fellow officer who was about to report him for poor performance. He accused her of kicking a handcuffed suspect, which was completely untrue. So when he got caught in the lie, he went through several hearings and appeals before actually being fired–more than any private sector employee would ever get–and he’s angry about being fired and starts a vendetta against those who done him wrong. He already shot and killed the women who defended him at all those hearings. So let’s see–1. You’re lousy at your job and a fellow employee reports you; 2. You lie about that employee as revenge; 3. You get caught in the lie and then get mad when they fire you. How is this anyone else’s fault but your own? And, oh by the way, take away everyone else’s guns but let him keep his so he can shot your ass when you do him wrong. Sounds like perfect liberal logic to me.

    • phideaux

      “He accused her of kicking a handcuffed suspect, which was completely untrue. ”

      According to the suspect and his father Dorner’s statements had at least some truth to them. That was in an MSN article I read Wednesday.

  • jopa

    I think I may have been one of few on this site that even mentioned the Conservative gun nut in Alabama that shot and killed the school bus driver and held that kid hostage for a week.He was trying to get all twenty kids on that bus but the driver was able to defend them even though it cost him his life.His neighbors said they would constantly hear all the nut jobs on the Right being broadcast over his radio and TV .The little bit of coverage that is portrayed here on this site very seldom mentions that the Sandy Hook killer and loughner were from Conservative backgrounds and really gun crazy.

    • Jana

      That would truly hold some water IF it would not be made such a big deal of, when the few crazies who do listen to conservative radio are not flaunted out as big bad conservatives and make conservatives out to all be like these few crazy people. The point is there are crazies on both sides of the spectrum but that is never mentioned in the MSM. The first thing they want to do is blame conservatism for the evils of this world, before they even know the truth.
      Therefore, if this is the way they want to play the game, then we have to start playing it right back. We have set back far too long. No more being door mats for us.

      • Alan

        Nicely put Jana! Conservatives are always portrayed as heartless scum who could care less what happens to others. That’s simply not true. We just express our feelings differently in many instances.

  • ToughGuy1

    People! “It’s the person, not the gun!”

  • cawmun cents

    If they admitted that he (this killer madman known as Dorner) has the disease known as progressivism,they might let their Cheshire Cat Characters out of the bag.
    Therefore that part of the story is conviently left out,in a dazzling lie of omission.
    Some deny that a lie of omission is a true lie.
    But there are those of us out here in reality land that can smell [expletive deleted] when confronted with it.
    We are their supposed “wingnuts” that they harbor so much ill will against,yet when an obvious progressive hack goes [expletive deleted] and starts murdering folks at will,they ignore his political affiliations.
    He has a reason to be angry,right?
    He is black and progressive.
    The law abiding,white,gun toting,Godfearing,nationloving,hardworking, red meat eating,citizens,are the real problem and reason the nation is in the horrible condition it is in right now,correct?
    Not the law breakers out there on the fringes.
    Dont shine a light where the real conditions need improvement,just keep them going like they are now and add new laws that do nothing.
    The progressive mantra.

    • alpha-lemming

      You beat me to the punch…. lie by omission or push-polling via descriptors….

      “He’s a cop”…. ergo- must be a gun-nut, storm trooper wannabe and gets off on the power, “Which way to Rodney King”??… etcetcetc. That should be enough stereotypical assertions of righties to get the message across.

    • eddie47d

      You’re really stroking yourself there Un-Cawmun Cents! If what you say is so true then why has there been so much trouble with right wing “thinkers” in the last 20 years and so few cases of lefties causing trouble with fringe groups. Why hasn’t this site exposed the rantings of Jimmie Lee Dykes (last week in Alabama) who had many rabid anti-government views. He also killed and was willing to kill again. I’m not against Dorner being exposed for what he is but how about admitting some of the Conservative “mantra”.

      • phideaux

        ” Why hasn’t this site exposed the rantings of Jimmie Lee Dykes (last week in Alabama) who had many rabid anti-government views.”

        There is no need for this site do do that eddie. You and your buddies in MSM do it thouroughly. This site is exposing the media hypocracy in not being just as dilligent in telling us the leftest/progressive leanings of other lunatics.

      • eddie47d

        That’s odd phildeaux because its on all the networks or is it you that’s not getting enough attention? Dorner said the LAPD is rift with racism and “has years of unchecked racism and corruption in the police department”. The news also says he’s “a man who has lost all faith in the system” . Sounds exactly like you and several others around here!

      • cawmun cents

        Its what they are not saying about him that bothers us eddie47d.

      • phideaux

        “… or is it you that’s not getting enough attention? ”

        Unlike you eddie I do not require constant ego gratification so I get sufficent attention and do not have to constantly be seeking ever more attention by making inane specious comments..

  • Bill

    It sounds like he has been taking the same drugs as adam Lanza

    • Mike Austin

      He may have nbeen taking anti-depressents after losing his job. Will we ever know?

  • Rennie

    I havn’t heard anyone blame these crimes on Dorner’sa gun, yet, have you? Or the people on TV he listens to.

  • dornob

    My hope for this product of collectivst philosophy is that he is gunned down in a hail of bullets. Brutally, and without mercy.

  • catherine

    ya’ll belong in the label making factory

  • kevin

    I find it funny that peoples ignorance that this was brought up as soon as obama was re elected the most anti american president ever they want full control of all people in what you do when you do it and you will pay more then anyone has ever known if we don’t re move the progressive socialist party has been at this for over 50 years but right now with the ignorance of the people wanting someone else to do everything for them now the perfect time to rid the rule of the constitution from the decision of laws that would violate evryones right. may the people rise above it all and remove the grovernment anarchist that want to remove the power of the united people devide and take over… you all should start looking at history it being repeated… they did not get it to work 65 years ago but they are trying ti wright here…

    • kevin

      by the way I am african american male. this is for the black racist at the begining blog the one that said fu at the end.

  • roger

    Did anyone here do any other research other than listen to the libtard talking heads? This is from the accused’s manifesto….;

    “I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. XXXX who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that XXXX kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. XXXX a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer XXXX stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. XXXX ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. XXXX, and Sgt. XXXX. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. XXXX and Sgt. XXXX can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.”

    He is innocent until proven guilty.

    • ranger09

      Roger, The Media will not check out his story, Even tho it most likely was the truth, He is just a person that went over the line, And he knows it will end only one way. But he does get his time in the press as a cop killer. Will have to wait and see how it ends.

      • Jana

        The sad thing is there were other ways to go about this. I did read the other parts of his manifesto and I see how and why he can be so angry, but murdering someone or what 3 someones is still not the answer.
        How is this going to give him back his good name, which is what he is wanting? This is a no win situation for him. Neither is it going to change much of anything in the LAPD unfortunately. We can hope it will, but reality says it will get covered up.

        He sure went about this all wrong. He probably really was a nice guy once too.

      • Wellarmed

        I believe that you hit the nail square on the head once again Ranger09. Every time one of these media “events” happens it foments the next. By that I am saying that it creates the justification for the next “event”.

        I am on the fence (may have been wrongly prosecuted) despite this former officers left wing views (if they are his views?). I have friends that are former Naval Intelligence, and they are of a very high caliber and are vetted to be the best of the best.

        The media as it stands now has become merely a tool. If one wishes to achieve their 15 seconds of fame, then all one need do is commit some type of atrocity within the U.S Borders regardless if one wishes to live or die in the process. I do believe that they are 100% aware of their contribution in this respect as the vast majority of psych grads end up in the entertainment/media industry.

        Again folks it is but merely a means to and end. Where would our media be without Victims?

      • Jana

        Well after rethinking my stance here, I have a different prospective. The LAPD are mostly Liberals. I thought the Libs were such caring and thoughtful and wonderful people. They proclaim themselves to be the only ones on the planet who truly care about their fellow man and yet they would do all the things that you are suspecting them of doing to poor Dorner?
        No no tell me this can’t be!
        You also think that possibly someone might have either added to his manifesto or made it up? Do you think they made up the murders also?
        Personally after reading more of his manifesto than I had yesterday I am seeing someone degrading into an already trained madman and he is acting on it.
        He has been concerned about racism it seems pretty much during his life that we know about. If that is the case, then already that makes him a bad cop.
        Maybe he wasn’t always such a nice person after all. He may have wanted to be, and saw himself as one, but he has had problems and they are surfacing big time.

  • northbrook

    Support stricter gun laws and see where this leaves you – at the mercy of crazies like Dorner. He is gutless ambushing his own brothers in arms and defenseless women. I have little respect for him as a man and less for his philosophy.

    • ranger09

      There is always two sides to a story, Alot of the things he stated about the LAPD is true. Sometimes people are forced to do what they otherwise would not do, His problem is with the Police and their familys and i hope it stays there and not involve innocent civilians.But i hope this brings out more cops in the LAPD to tell the truth. But not likely.

      • Wellarmed

        I believe that Officer Dorner has a mission to achieve, and I personally do/would not want to be on the receiving end of that mission. If he has been wrongfully accused/terminated I could understand his anger and his inability to bring light on the subject, but killing innocent people is NOT the way to go about it.

        I hope he is captured before the LAPD gets a hold of him as that may be the only way we can get to the bottom of the matter. He should never see the light of day outside of a prison wall if he did kill these persons.

        I would be willing to SERVE on his Jury if necessary.

  • ranger09

    Well just another person that ran out of options, But with my past knowlege of the LAPD and the cover ups Its just possible that he was railroaded, He has listed some useful names in this area. I think it would be nice if the Media would look into these things. But they will not, for they know you dont mess with the LAPD or the city politicians.

  • Ol504Troop

    L.A. Sheriff’s office just announced an investigation into their gang unit for offenses mentioned in Dorner’s “manifesto”. What if his allegations are true, and he has been vilified for breaking the code of silence? His actions cannot be justified, but maybe they can be understood.

    • Wellarmed

      We had a U.S. Army Sargent accused of killing up to 17 civilians in Afghanistan not too long ago. Please remember the first thing the “media” did was vilify him as some animal. I was shocked it even received further attention, as that is generally where things end.

      It was discovered that that Soldier was prescribed a drug that he should not have received due to cranial blunt force trauma. I believe that this trauma occurred during his combat mission do to an IED.

      Our soldiers are not test specimens for the Pentagon. They knew damn well that personal that had been exposed to BFT were not to receive that medication, but it was prescribed anyway.

      There is no shortage of people in command functions in this country that are willing to let everyone around them fall on their Sword. I am willing to give Officer Dorner his due process right and also allow him his time in prison if he committed these crimes.

      How about you?

  • ibcamn

    The way some would look at this is,a police officer has gone bad!how many times have we said that the police are the biggest gang in the US?now one of the gang members has gone rouge and they(gov’t)don’t like it!this involves a lot of aspects,did the union wait too long to take action against a clearly mentally unstable policeman?did the police commisioner not see this coming?is it the commanding officer’s fault for not having him relieved of duty right away?what about police psychiatrist,did they know he had mental issues?what about when he was finally fired,did he have to turn in any certain firearms?did anyone do a background check on him?who’s responsible for this one?see what i mean?!
    He is clearly a liberal progressive!no doubt sandy hook,they found the bushmaster in his trunk,did they not?!but a lot of articles don’t mention that!what of the guy in the woods that day,didn’t he have a weapon on his person?so why did this mentally deranged policeman have to say anything about the type of rifle in his house?makes no sense to me.but the thing is,this is a police officer,mental police officer!how many more are out there?!?!they already show signs of agression towards the public and each long before all the police go by way of this cop,over the edge!??!so by what the liberals say and by what the progressives say,then we should outlaw all the police officers!!(just in case they do go nuts,premptive strike so to speak)
    that’s what the president says is the smart thing to do!chase em all down with his drones…

    • Wellarmed

      Is it not incredibly tempting to take the low road ibcamn. I agree with you completely that this Administrations lack of input in regards to this “event” speak volumes about their true goals in relations to our disarmament.

      Please reread this thread as I have provided comments as to what may be truly happening in Southern California. It may all just be supposition, but what the hell?

      If we stoop to their level, then how can we ever claim that our position is just?

      I will fight with you in protecting out freedoms even if our religious ideologies do not agree with one another, but I will not stand with any of you, if we assume the role of those ignorant to the cause liberty.

      • Jana

        Personally, I am glad that Obama has kept his mouth shut over all of this. He opened his mouth and practically convicted George Zimmerman before he even had a trial of murdering Trayvon Martin. This was wrong of him. We can all conjecture all we want, but until he is heard by a jury of his peers, he still gets his side told. The same for Dorner. The difference so far is that Zimmerman did not preplan to kill and from what it seems Dorner did. However, there is a big difference between me saying that and Obama saying it.

      • Wellarmed

        I cannot agree with you more Jana about the Zimmerman case. I do feel that the Federal DOJ has attempted to bring the entire weight of his office down on George Zimmerman.

        There should be a formal investigation of the DOJ to see if any attempt was made by Holder to deny Mr. Zimmerman his due Process right.

        I do feel that Zimmerman did make an incredible error by disparaging his testimony during his bond proceedings, but I do not happen to be walking in his shoes and I am not certain how one does respond when your entire family is receiving death threats and the DOJ happens to just look the other way when Rappers are giving out your families address with the clear intent of getting them killed.

        Why Spike Lee is not behind bars for his actions, is akin to throwing one more log on the fire when it comes to our “Justice” departments reckless disregard for the rule of law.

  • edit

    The leading newspaper in L.A. put this Dorner killing on Page 2 today Friday Feb. 8, 2013. Other killings go on page one.

  • Wolfman

    this LAPD Ex Cop also voted for Obama and still has his LAPD assualt weapons including his LAPD badge ?

  • Charles

    Anyone who worships Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, BO, Feinstein, Reid and Anderson Cooper is obviously mentally unstable. No wonder he is on a murderous rampage. If he is so anti-gun, why is he using guns to kill? If he were honest, he would be using clubs and knives.

    • cawmun cents

      Thats where you are wrong Charles…he would be killing us with progressive irony.

  • Kinetic1

    I was watching the Today show this morning and they report on the Chris Domer murders. Much of the report was information on the victims and the discovery of his burned out truck in Big Bear, but they also referred to his manifesto. In doing so they mentioned not only his praise for several celebrities, but also his comments of support for the President and the first lady. Now, they might not have been screaming LIBERAL! LIBERAL!, but they weren’t avoiding the subject either.

    Now, what did he have to say in his manifesto? Well, 75% was outlining his case against the LAPD and asking journalists to take a closer look. He wants his name cleared.
    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever. ”
    Another 10% (roughly speaking) is a plea to his friends and family to remember him as he was. The rest is an argument against assault weapons and a list of those he respects or hates. Yes, he applauded Senator Feinstein for championing the assault weapon ban and said of Hillary Clinton “You’ll make one hell of a president in 2016. Much like your husband, Bill, you will be one of the greatest. ” Then again, he also wrote to G.H.W. Bush “…they never give you enough credit for your successful Presidency. You were always one of my favorite Presidents”.

    The reason the press is not making a big deal about the “Liberal” shooter is that he is not spouting the type of hateful, delusional political crap as shooters like Anders Behring Breivik. It is not filled with the left wing equivalent of hostile anti Islamic rants, but often shows balance between liberal and conservative views.
    “LGBT community and supporters, the same way you have the right to voice your opinion on acceptance of gay marriage, Chick Fil-A has a right to voice their beliefs as well. That’s what makes America so great. Freedom of expression.”
    It was not Timothy McVeigh’s condemnation of the Government, but notes to people like General Colin Powell,
    ” your book “My American Journey” solidified my decision to join the military after college. I had always intended to serve, but your book and journey motivated me. You are an inspiration to all Americans and influenced me greatly.”

    Yes, it’s fairly clear that Mr. Domer is a Democrat, but not likely a Liberal Democrat. Read his manifesto. Compare it to the ranting of many of those shooters labeled “right wing” and then tell me you really think the press has made to little of his political leanings.

  • Deerinwater

    Well, this whole thing is heart sicking.

    It sounds as if this former peace officer had been driven to the edge while his borderline flaws of character has pulled him over to the dark side.

    If you can believe any of what you here , it started with telling a lie or a frame up supported with a lie.

    There a lot of politics in law enforcement. ~ It’s never been easy to be a good cop, as they work with the worst and the best on mankind and they only human.

    • Wellarmed

      I do my best not to paint all with the same brush Deerinwater. What concerns me is; are we about to witness another Fukushima Diaichi meltdown with the LAPD?

      Is this just the tip of the Ice Burg?


  • Jeff Rowbottom

    What I see most of you didn’t pick up on is that this man is also being treated for depression.I am not giving him an excuse,but we need to look harder at how people are being treated and with what and how it is effecting people.Basically have the FDA do it’s job.


    “Media ignore alleged Liberal murderer”? Where have you been Sam Rolly? There have been reports all over the news, every day since it started. They have been shoing pictures of this guy in his various uniforms, at home, on the firing range, and other places. I hear about him at least 3 or 4 times a day if not more. I guess you, Sam Rolly, have been at your keyboard way too long to pay attention to what has been on the news, when actually we have been inundated with all the reports about him. Turn on your TV and your radio and maybe you’ll hear more than you have been hearing on your computer.

    • Chuck S

      Maybe the headline should have said media ignores aleged murderer’s liberalism. That’s what the article is about.

  • http://internetesplorer bennett

    crazy….maybe mental health…..maybe not…..some how he feels wronged and not heard and that happens alote to alote……poor thing…

  • Dave67


    Why is this all over the news?

    Just not covered as much as sam would want perhaps?


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