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Mayor Bloomberg Suggests Link Between Gun Control Laws And Illegal Trafficking

October 22, 2010 by  

Mayor Bloomberg suggests link between gun control laws and illegal traffickingA report spearheaded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg claims that states that have more lenient gun laws are the largest contributors to illegal firearms throughout the nation.

Bloomberg, in a commentary he wrote for CNN.com, indicated that 10 states with lax gun control laws supplied a high number of weapons that were used in crimes — more than twice the national average. This information was included in Trace the Guns: The Link Between Gun Laws and Interstate Gun Trafficking, a report issued by a coalition of more than 500 mayors in the United States.

"The stakes are high: 12,000 people a year are murdered with guns in the U.S. If one state ignores a gap in its laws, other states have to deal with the deadly consequences," Bloomberg wrote.

The mayor believes that more work should be done by policymakers to tighten gun control laws, including the gun show loophole that allows individuals with a criminal record to avoid background checks when purchasing firearms from a private seller.

According to PennLive.com, Kim Stolfer, chairman of the gun-rights organization Firearm Owners Against Crime, believes that gun laws do not need to be more strict, but rather enforced and prosecuted better.

"It's simple: Prosecute the criminals for violating the firearms laws we have now," Stolfer said, according to the news provider. "If you don't do it, you're part of the problem and not the solution."

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  • Dan Az

    Wow And he really believes that Ill bet just like shummer did with his phoney clock.Guns arent allowed in NY and yet shummer shot a home invader why did he need a gun? Bloomberg is just afraid that he might be next.Check the facts an armed citizen is not likely to get mugged or raped why is that?If all citizens where armed at all times would the crime go down or up?

    • Robert Smith

      I completely shut down a gun grabber by asking him to put a sighn in his yard that said, “There are no guns in this house.”

      He finally got the message.

      Rob

  • JeffH

    To begin with, Bloomberg is the last person on earth to believe anything he twists, spins or skews about guns. He leads the almost defunct Mayors Against Illegal Guns, which when first started gathered some mayors from around the country but lost their pop when these mayors discovered he was lying and mis-representing his true anti-gun socialist agenda. They bailed like rats on a sinking ship.

    Though Mr. Bloomberg may wish he was the Mayor of America, he’s not. He’s just the mayor of the City of New York, and the Second Amendment applies in Manhattan as much as it does in Mississippi.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Actually, most politicians bail from anti-gun stands because it is political suicide due to the money power of the NRA.

      • Brad

        The NRA is no more powerful then say the ACLU.

        • Mick

          Brad says:
          October 22, 2010 at 10:03 am
          The NRA is no more powerful then say the ACLU.

          *
          **************************************

          Brad…I hope you’re right because the ACLU and organizations like it are definitley a killer for our country.

          • Brad

            Mick,

            While the ACLU stands up for the rights of pogressive/liberal organizations who want to distroy the first amendment, NRA stands up for the rights of all law abiding American citizens and the second amendment. We the people need to stand up to the ACLU and their scare tactics because their mantra of seperation of church and state has no footing in the constitution. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

      • Gary

        The NRA’s power comes from its members…the citizens.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Gary,
          Hear Hear!!! As far as the statement about enforcement, it’s true. Ohio passed a law a few years back that said if you commit a crime with a gun you get seven years added to your sentence. In about ten years it has only been enforced a handful of times!! Excuses like the jails are too crowded or well he didn’t mean to use a gun, are used all the time. Or to get a quick conviction, they bargain it out!! The crook has more rights than the victim!!!

        • Robert Smith

          From Gary: “The NRA’s power comes from its members…the citizens.”

          So does the ACLU.

          Rob

    • alpha-lemming

      Well if M*A*I*L folds, they should start a new coalition. Might I suggest… the LEMMINGS. They are: the “L”eftist “E”lite “M”ultinational “M”ovement “I”magining a “N”o “G”un “S”ociety.

      It’s a natural. Not only would a lemming be an absolutely adorable mascot, when he takes a half-gainer off the cliff, he can double as their state bird.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        alpha,
        Or as an example to them!!!

  • s c

    Is there anyone in America who thinks Bloomberg is a conservative? He might be a turncoat or a RINO Republican, but he’s no conservative. It seems to me that if he’s so anti-gun that maybe he should do the obvious and refuse to have people around him who carry a weapon. I’m sure would-be criminals would respect him for it and would leave him alone.

    • Bus

      Adn advertise the fact so everyone knows he isn’t a hypocrite.

    • Gary

      Bloomberg doesn’t want to do away with guns.
      He just doesn’t want the citizenry to have them.

    • Earl, QUEENS, NY

      Absolutely not, sc. I never believed Bloomturd to be a conservative. My understanding is that before going into politics, he was a liberal democrap. Despite changing parties a few times, I think he’s always been just that. He only turned Republican to challenge another democrap. But of course he was a complete RINO, and he’s defied NYC term limit laws!! Although I vote GOP over 99 % of the time as a vote against today’s leftwing communist democrap party, last year’s mayoral election was one of a few exceptions to my rule, in which I voted 3rd party – for the conservative party. In fact, were it not for the endorsement of BH Oblunder last year, maybe I would’ve voted for Bloomturd’s democrap opponent!! I haven’t vote for a democrap in many years, but we can see that Bloomturd is really no better!!

    • JC

      sc, Bloomberg is a NWO tool.

      Check his comment:
      A report spearheaded by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg claims that “states that have more lenient gun laws are the largest contributors to illegal firearms throughout the nation.”

      What a crock! I guess he just doesn’t like that the states with open and conceal carry laws have lower crime rates than his big rotten apple. MUCH Lower.
      These MAIG Morons will say the absolute stupidest S**! to disarm us. And sadly they’re backed up by a bunch of other Morons chanting
      “Yes we can Yes we can…(Zeig heil Zeig heil)”.
      What these imbeciles don’t get is that all those nasty genocides and polgroms were preceded by gun confiscation…which was preceded by gun registration.

      Never!

  • john

    Beware the politician that is so filthy rich that they run for an office that does’nt pay what they earn elsewhere(power and ego).Beware the politician who is so filthy rich,powerful and big ego that he has the law re-written in order to run for a 3rd term.Beware Michael Bloomberg…power hungry,egoist,who caters to all thats anti-American.He sided for the mosque at ground zero..thumbing his nose at the majority of his constituents who suffered losses in that horrific attack.He’s a weak little spineless man who would roll out the red carpet for our enemies while selling out his own for his own selfish benefit.He is all for removing more of our rights because he is a power tripping egoist who enjoys playing king of ny.Don’t be surprised if he sets his eyes on the presidency..although i doubt he’d have a shot..then again..we have obamanation don’t we?

  • john

    I’d like to put this question out to the Jewish population.Why do they support policies that reek of the same type of ideologies that gave birth to Nazism..even Jewish politicians like Schumer and Bloomberg help push agendas that were first adopted by the Nazis into legislation..gun control,invasive body searches,abortion(modern day holocaust and scientific methods that were gleamed from the medical reports of concentration camp experiments)more govt. control over our very lives..why are they so silent..can someone please answere me this?

    • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK

      No Jews read this column. A Jewish woman told me why she favored the Mosque in lower Manhattan: we should be tolerant and modern in our outlook. end quote. Now, my interpretation of that is this: Jews are very afraid of persecution, persecute one group and Jews are possibly next. Its a survival strategem. Hope this helps your understanding of New York and its very strange mayor.

  • flaguypl

    Have you ever noticed how the liberals are always talking about gun control,, When do you ever hear them talking about criminal control, Stop being a sanctuary city, stop illegals from raping this country by using all of our resources, health care, welfare, medicare, jails which we as taxpayers also pay for. we have guns to protect ourselves from the element that you & your kind propose to drain & hurt us, get your priorities in order, we don’t have 24 hr. nypd guarding us, and after your time you can afford 24 hr guarding & ass kissing, we don’t. as a retired nyc cop, i know we can’t protect ourselves & when the police are called after the fact, they take a report.. reports don’t keep you out of the hospital or cemetary.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I hear a lot more talk about gun control from conservatives than I do from liberals.

      • alpha-lemming

        I think conservative “gun control” refers to hitting what they aimed at.

        • Doc Sarvis

          From what I’ve seen, they’re not very good shots.

          • alpha-lemming

            Ya REALLY need to get out more. More than a few acquaintences in the service…. sniper-qualified… and wouldn’t ya know it, not a single progressive in the lot. Just anticdotal evidence I guess.

          • Robert Smith

            From alpha…: “and wouldn’t ya know it, not a single progressive in the lot. ”

            Actually I’ve frequenly been called a “liberal” (among other things, like “moron” from samurai)

            I’m opposed to any gun control except those laws that will keep firearms out of the hands of violent criminals and violent nut cases. Sorry I’m not a true believer in total freedom with guns. There need to be a few restrictions to assure that responsible adult Americans aren’t killed by the extreme cases.

            Now there is so you don’t need to make your blanket declarations anymore.

            I’m also for total freedom for some recreational drugs (kids and pot shouldn’t mix).

            I’m for total freedom of sex (that’s only for consenting adults).

            I also support freedom of choice in the abortion issue.

            I support freedom of choice in religious issues as long as it only involved members of the flock. IOW, you can believe what you want, but don’t involve me in your relligion if I don’t wanna be. That translates to don’t prey on me.

            IOW, I’m for as much freedom as can be expressed for as many American adults as we can accomidate.

            It’s unAmerican to demand freedom in one part of an adult human being’s life in America and then demand restrictions on another part simply because one doesn’t like it for religious reasons.

            The question I have is: How can you demand freedom for YOUR issue of gun control and then demand restrictions on others, like for assisted suicide?

            If you don’t respect the freedoms of others why expect them to respect what you want?

            Rob

          • alpha-lemming

            To Robert Smith @ 9:38
            Sorry about the delay. Don’t wanna get in a pissin’ contest with you, but based on some of your posts, I think you’re still salvagable.

            First, I was strictly referring to service members, and from my sampling, a “blanket statement” is fitting and accurate. Now onto the “liberal” thing. “Classic liberalism” is Libertarian (the ONLY freedom espousing/championing party), and as FAR AS POLITICALLY POSSIBLE from the progressive/socialist modern-day, so far left your address is the international date line, Democrats. If you’re a proud Dem, please use the proper term and refer to yourself as progressive and maybe Libertarian “liberal” won’t be a purjorative any more.

            At the end of your third paragraph, you keyed on “responsible” Americans. That’s why I have a hard time believing you’re a liberal (I’ll defer to your term out of respect) because I’ve never heard one yet utter the word “responsibility” without adding a “corporate” modifier. In fact it was stated (maybe Van Jones or a peer??)… “personal responsibility is the new code word for racism”. The Dems are totally about subsidizing weakness, promoting failure, and growing the ranks of the afore mentioned.

            Now…. here’s the funny part. I agree with all of your statements (I still can’t believe you’re a liberal) with a couple of qualifiers.

            1) I’m for freedom of “sex??” too. Assuming you mean “partners of your choice” (and not unfettered libido) ala alternate life-style, yep… you deserve all the percs of marriage. You just can’t call it marriage (or heteros married outside the church). That’s a term specifecally reserved for the completion of a religious ceremony/rite. Marriage is a “rite” and not a “right”.

            2) Abortion laws MUST contain a “life of the mother” (and REAL life of the mother… not “crampin’ my style” social life) caveat. That being said, even the most cynical MUST admit, at SOME POINT, this thing inside is a sentient being (there’s that darned responsibility thing again)… aka it CAN feel pain… and termination MUST occur prior to that. Knowing details of gestation, I can tell you CNS developes pretty damned early into the second trimester. No abortions (minus the caveat) after 14-16th week. I don’t think this would set well with the majority of your brethren who would argue infanticide is just a sixth trimester abortion.

            3) Religious freedom/vacuum. I hope you’re not one of those guys who’s offended when he sees a creche, or gets pissed off when somebody says “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Chanukkah”.

            4) Maximum freedom for all. Really?? REALLY?? Puh-lease… this coming from the party of CENSORSHIP, using government as a bludgeon, PC-BS and redistributive class-warfare as a platform?? You still insist you’re a liberal??

            Finally, thanks for putting up with my rant, and I hope I didn’t go TOO overboard on you because, like I said, I see some common ground in some of your posts. Those inconsistencies you mentioned are answered to anyone who considers him/herself a “small c” conservative, libertarian, minimal government Constitutionalist. These are anathema to the modern progressive, anti-Constitutional (BHO… “the Constitution is a flawed document”), Democrat Obamunists.

          • JC

            Why do any of you even engage this Sarvis moron? He sets out a baited question that has no backing of any kind and some want to argue with him…why bother?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            doc,
            In the service, I shot expert on three different weapons. the M14, the M16, and the AK 47 in VietNam!! I’ll put my long gun skills up against yours today, almost 41 years later!!! give me a little more time with my 9MM and I’ll match you with that!

          • Granny Mae

            Joe H

            My husband is 73 and he still shoots like he did when he was in the military too. He also was a marksman. The family had a reunion a year ago and the guys all got together bragging about their gun skills so a couple guns were brought out and they all took turns. When it came to my husband a lot of the young buks started their junk talk. Grandpa commenced to shoot and they all shut up and the air was filled with I can’t believe this !!! He is good !

          • Robert Smith

            From Alpha… ” You just can’t call it marriage (or heteros married outside the church). That’s a term specifecally reserved for the completion of a religious ceremony/rite. Marriage is a “rite” and not a “right”.”

            OK! If marriage is a religious ceremony THEN the CIVIL contract offered by states should be called something else. What is now called “marriage” by the government should be called a “couple’s contract” or “civil union.” Then each religious organization can do their thing and call it what they want. BTW, such a civil conract should apply to ALL couples.

            From Alpha…: “That being said, even the most cynical MUST admit, at SOME POINT, this thing inside is a sentient being (there’s that darned responsibility thing again)… aka it CAN feel pain… and termination MUST occur prior to that.<<<

            The Number of Abortions After the First Trimester Is Relatively Small

            The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates that 60.5 percent of legal abortions occur within the first eight weeks of gestation, and 88.2 percent are performed within the first 12 weeks.

            Only 1.4 percent occur after 20 weeks (CDC, 2006).

            Since abortion became legal in 1973, the proportion of abortions performed after the first trimester has decreased because of increased access to and knowledge about safe, legal abortion services.

            BTW, between 1996 and 2002, the number of abortions in the U.S. fell from 1.36 million to 1.29 million (Finer & Henshaw, 2003; Guttmacher Institute, 2006). Those were the years of Bill Clinton and the carry-over from his policies of education. The Planned Parenthood has prevented many more abortions than any other organization by getting birth control information out to women who need it.

            From Alpha: "No abortions (minus the caveat) after 14-16th week. I don’t think this would set well with the majority of your brethren who would argue infanticide is just a sixth trimester abortion."

            As you can see second and third trimester abortions are relatively rare and because of better medical information are usually attributable to serious medical issues. In fact nobody has reliably cited a third trimester without a serious medical issue. Most often it is of a WANTED pregnancy.

            "Religious freedom/vacuum. I hope you’re not one of those guys who’s offended when he sees a creche, or gets pissed off when somebody says “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Chanukkah”.

            Not at all. I don't get offended by a "Bright Blessings," or a bunch of other greetings.

            What DOES offend me is folks who think they can get their ticket to their heaven punched by involving me in their religion.

            "Maximum freedom for all. Really?? REALLY?? Puh-lease…"

            Yup.

            "this coming from the party of CENSORSHIP,"

            Tipper Gore, it is claimed" wanted to censor records. In fact what was put in place is a ratings systerm.

            From Alpha…: "using government as a bludgeon, PC-BS and redistributive class-warfare as a platform??"

            I don't uderstand what you are talking about in that.

            "You still insist you’re a liberal??"

            Actually I don't. That's what is used as a pajorative by samurai, his wife, and a bunch of other extremists.

            I call myself a Goldwater Conservative. That is completely different from the neocons who claim to be conservatives. Goldwater was always in favor of abortion and had no problem with gays in the military.

            "Finally, thanks for putting up with my rant,"

            Thank you. Compared to many around here I think we are closer to the spirit of America than the loud mouth name callers and those who are truly ranting.

            Rob

        • Brad

          Doc,

          I’m conservative and can hit a dollar bill size circle at two hundred yards using iron sights on either my O3-A3 or my K98k.

          • Robert Smith

            Hi Brad,

            I can do it with my M-1. Quantico, Fort Mead, Fairfax Rod & Gun to name a few.

            And I’ve still been called a “liberal” all around these forums.

            Rob

      • Brad

        Try again Doc,

        More and more progressive/liberals are trying to reinvent ways to confiscate the legal gun owners weapons. Take a look at Hillary “rotten crotch” Clinton siding with the UN on the world wide ban on gun and ammo sales. She want’s a one world order just as much as Ohmama does. Their first priority get the guns out of law abiding citizens.

        • Teresa

          Exactly, this is just another scare tactic to the American people to try to disillusion them into thinking that we have a gun problem…the gun problem we have is that THEY are trying to take away guns from the American citizens….why do you think that is???? They know the war is coming to us. How do you suppose the illegal guns are getting here? Do they think the illegal guns will stop once they take OUR guns away??? You people better wake up for they are pushing with all their might to unarm us any way they can, guns, ammo, restrictions….you better stay on your congressmen for this is a battle that WE CAN NOT LOOSE! If a person wanted to kill someone they would do it rather it be with a bat, a bomb or a gun, but once they unarm us we are defenseless against our enemies…guns do not kill, people kill. Get educated!

          • Granny Mae

            Teresa,
            You are so right. If they take guns away from honest law abiding citizens there will still be murders because the crooks will always have guns. Drug dealers bring in drugs and guns. They can’t stop them so they won’t be able to stop people getting guns that want them for what ever reason. They need to just leave us alone.

        • Robert Smith

          From Brad: “siding with the UN on the world wide ban on gun and ammo sales”

          Doesn’t apply to private ownership.

          Fear not, she can’t get your guns based upon that treaty.

          Please stick with the reality.

          Rob

          • JeffH

            Robert Smith, I beg to differ. As long as the threat is real, which it is, it is reality!

          • Iam

            That is precisely what the UN treaty is all about: private ownership of firearms. IE, the permanent banning of such.

          • Iam

            Also, once the Senate ratifies a treaty, the terms of that treaty supercede the Constitution. The government will then have both the right and the power to confiscate all privately owned firearms.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I think I’m gonna start visiting some private owners that are interested in selling. No paperwork, don’t cha know!!! That way, when they come to my door to confiscate my new 9mm I bought completely above board, I’ll still have a little sompin’ sompin’ just in case!!!

          • JC

            Don’t keep that little something extra in your house either…
            at least not until you really have to.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey Guys,

            Please pay attention. You have been the victims of a rather abusive (to the truth) chain e-mail.

            Here is the reality. From: http://factcheck.org/2009/12/international-gun-ban-treaty/

            “December 5, 2009
            Q: Has Obama found a “legal way around the Second Amendment”?

            A: The administration’s agreement to talk about writing a United Nations treaty to regulate arms exports and imports is a far cry from banning possession of firearms, which Obama says he doesn’t want to do and the Supreme Court has said can’t be done anyway.”

            There is a lot more to be said but it is easy enough to go to the web page and get it straight.

            Rob

          • independant thinker

            The proposed wording of every proposed version of the UN treaty on guns I have seen has been worded in such a way that it can be used against private citizens anytime the powers that be want to institute a gun grab. Obama has only said he does not want to ban firearms after he started to run for president before that he supported banning the manufacture, sale, and posession of handguns. He also called for the reimposition of the ban on so called assualt rifles in an expanded version that would have banned most if not all semi-auto rifles and shotguns. Obama stated, after he was elected president, he would not seek any new anti gun laws because he did not have the votes to guarentee their passage.

      • s c

        DS, that’s a LIE, and you KNOW it’s a LIE. When conservatives talk about “guns, weapons and/or the 2nd Amendment,’ we’re NOT talking about “gun control.’
        “Gun control” is what progressives and other types of mental defectives love to talk about.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          sc,
          unless he means gun control as in hitting what you aim at!!!

      • Gary

        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, shall not be infringed. Take note, it is the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE.

        • Iam

          Yes, we can talk about the RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE, but the government is constantly trying to get around the pesky limits on its own rights in order to subjugate us.

          • Robert Smith

            lam,

            Are born women people? Why can’t they decide how their bodies are used?

            Are folks who like pot peoplle? It is a safer recreational drug than the christian drug of choice, alcohol.

            Are folks who like adult porn (and those who produce it) people?

            Are Wiccans (sometimes called Witches) people?

            Looks to me like the extreme right is messing with the lives of PEOPLE in more personal ways than the left.

            Rob

      • Average Joe Patriot

        “I hear a lot more talk about gun control from conservatives than I do from liberals.”

        Probably true. That is because all you have to do is threaten to deprive someone of their ability to defend themselves once, and he/she knows you are a clear and present dangerous threat to his/her continued existence. Who’s going to let that go? Why would anyone want to deprive others of their right to defense of their life, liberty, property and family? What could be the true motive behind such a position?

        Word spreads in any community. Same is true when you bring up as “debatable” the joys of barn burning or baby molestation, as though they were plausible forms of behavior up for discussion. Bring it up once, people will talk about it (and you) for a very long time.

        What are you a doctor of, anyway? Are you working on a psych PhD, here? Otherwise I can’t understand the reasons for your posts.

    • Mick

      flaguypl says:
      October 22, 2010 at 9:43 am
      Have you ever noticed how the liberals are always talking about gun control,, When do you ever hear them talking about criminal control, Stop being a sanctuary city, stop illegals from raping this country by using all of our resources, health care, welfare, medicare, jails which we as taxpayers also pay for. we have guns to protect ourselves from the element that you & your kind propose to drain & hurt us, get your priorities in order, we don’t have 24 hr. nypd guarding us, and after your time you can afford 24 hr guarding & ass kissing, we don’t. as a retired nyc cop, i know we can’t protect ourselves & when the police are called after the fact, they take a report.. reports don’t keep you out of the hospital or cemetary

      &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

      flaguypl……………OH,,,! HOW RIGHT YOU ARE…
      BUT DON’T FORGET IF THE LIBERALS WERE TO GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS AS MUCH AS THEY DO LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, WHO IN THE HELL WOULD VOTE FOR THEM ? IT WOULD LEAVE THEM WITH THE LOONS WHO BELIEVES THE CRAP THEY PUT OUT ON THE DAILY BASIS..LET’S HOPE WE HAVE MORE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LEFT THAN THAT .

      • Gary

        There are inteligent people left, but we are all on the right.

        • Mick

          Gary says:
          October 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm
          There are inteligent people left, but we are all on the right.

          *********************************************
          Gary says:
          October 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm
          There are inteligent people left, but we are all on the right.

          Gary………….. It would seem so !
          When talking to a lefty I feel that I have to walk on egg shells not to bruise their intellectual and emotional development, kinna put a wrench in my freedom of speech…………

          • Robert Smith

            Awwww Mick, “kinna put a wrench in my freedom of speech…………”

            What about their freedom no to listen?

            Frequently women are assaulted as they try to enter clinics.

            A church has been protesting a strip club for many years. Do you believe that’s right? Check out: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/dancers-ohio-strip-club-protest-church/

            Rob

            Rob

  • Bob W.

    John,what makes you think the Jewish population agree with Bloomberg ?Do you think they are stupid and care any less about our second amendment rights then you ?How many Jews do you really know and are you privy to their thoughts on this matter?Seems to me that you are making an assumption that is untrue.Don’t judge other people unless you want to be judged yourself.

    • libertytrain

      In my conversations with several Jewish folks over the last couple years is a sense that they feel things are getting dangerous for them again and they are beginning to fear another extermination attempt. And, I have to agree, many conversations I have had with leftist demos have them telling me how awful those wicked Jews are. That is scary to me. How quickly we forget.

      • Average Joe Patriot

        Jews who are not part of the problem (which leaves out the Rahms, Kissingers and Brzinskis (sp?), the manipulating lawyers, the creators and signers of PNAC, the Madoffs and Abramoffs, the entire Fed Reserve and most of Goldman Sachs-controlled Wall Street, not to bring up Rothschild-controlled Europe) the non-involved Jews…have every reason to fear. They’ve had it happen to their people in nearly every country they’ve occupied. If they have any sense they should all be seeking to become crypto-Jews and disassociate entirely from Zionism.

        Many Americans claim to fear a Mexican invasion (where I live, this is quite real, it’s happening). Many more are being encouraged by MSM to fear a Muslim invasion (and that’s really happening, too). Yet this country has already suffered a Jewish invasion, which spearheaded slavery (yes, the marrano-Jewish Monsanto family brought slave ships to New Orleans before the American Revolution, nine-tenths of slave ships were owned by Jews, long before they even dreamed of enslaving humanity by genetically controlling the world’s food supply) and ultimately Jewish banksters took over the US monetary system in 1913 at the Jekyll Island conference.

        Are Jews intrinsically “bad people?” Are humans intrinsically bad? Get serious. However you answer the latter question, the same answer applies to the former. We’re humans. Given assorted life challenges, some will do better, some worse. The same is true of religion and religious organizations. There is fundamental craziness to be found in nearly every codified religion, whether it be killing sons or killing infidels, carving out hearts or carving rocks (or covering them up at taxpayer expense) or what have you. (I find Jesus and Buddha to be notable exceptions to most religious leaders’ predilection for mayhem, but what their followers did afterward, sheesh.)

        Bottom line: Our Government has no business being in the religion business. Jews are not Christians, and vice versa. There is no legitimate Judeo-Christian ethic (whatever that means to you) within our original founding precepts. We don’t kill babies (except in war) or wipe out peaceful nations (except in war) or support nations which do these things (except in the Jewish-owned MSM). In the laws of every land there are the legal concepts/distinctions of malum in se (evil in and of itself, such as baby-rape) and malum prohibitum (spitting in public). Religious texts seem to blur these lines, our founders tried to clafify them.

        Libertytrain, your Jewish friends have every right to be afraid, very afraid. Their own leaders may be selling them upriver. Again.

        And subverting the US Constitution to do it.

        • libertytrain

          I’m not sure who is selling whom up river but the mindless left is starting the “Jews are evil” slinging again – and perhaps soon, it will become as “politically correct” as illegal aliens have become.

    • Vigilant

      Bob W.:

      NORMAN PODHORETZ, Wall Street Journal, Sep 10, 2010:

      “One of the most extraordinary features of Barack Obama’s victory over John McCain was his capture of 78% of the Jewish vote. To be sure, there was nothing extraordinary about the number itself. Since 1928, the average Jewish vote for the Democrat in presidential elections has been an amazing 75%—far higher than that of any other ethno-religious group.”

      Think and research bfore you speak.

  • Todd

    I call BS. Also, 40000 people are killed by cars every year, untold numbers by medical mistakes and drugs? Why the focus on guns if so many other things are far more deadly?

    • Vigilant

      And the lamestream media goes out of its way to avoid the statistics showing how many violent crimes are squelched because the potential victim is armed. Not to mention that where gun laws are supportive of the 2nd Amendment, fewer violent crimes occur.

      • independant thinker

        “And the lamestream media goes out of its way to avoid the statistics showing how many violent crimes are squelched because the potential victim is armed.”

        That number is conservatively estimated to be 2,000,000 times a year.

        • Average Joe Patriot

          You’ve got that right, Thinker. I admit I’ve been in places I shouldn’t have rationally gone (yes, here in these United States), but being armed has gotten me out of them safely a few more times than I can readily count.

          It affords me a perspective on the value of our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Without pulling a trigger, without even pulling a weapon, the display of one will stop untoward violence against one’s person, home, family and friends, possessions…in its tracks. Far more often than not.

          Yeah? But what if you actually had to pull it?

          Been there, dunnit. So far we all went home in one piece to face another day. You will not have read about or seen it on MSM, no one calls the cops in most of these situations. My next door neighbor did, once. Far more of pain in the ass than the event warranted, and everyone involved learned lessons that night.

          1. Don’t screw with littler guys you don’t know.
          2. Don’t wait for the cops.
          3. Um, three…refer to lessons one and two.

  • Todd

    Gun show loophole? Same unconstitutional laws (you know, the part about “shall not infringe”) are enforced at gun shows as in a gunshop. Love how he tossed that in. There is no loophole, it’s a fantasy that the press loves to write about to reinforce their ill conceived belief system. Private citizens cannot sell to other private citizens at a gun show legally. They can (also illegal as far as I know) however do it on the streets easily, a common way to exercise your right to protect yourself in totalitarian societies, like in NYC. This guy thinks we are stupid (and he’s right, American, by and large are absolute sheep when it comes to their rights). Bloomberg knows he needs to spew nonsense like this out every so often to remind the sheep why they are not to protect themselves, because the oligarchs don’t want you to be able to resist their power.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Todd,
      I went to a gun show last sunday. All around me there were people calling in info on all kinds of sales!! Even on a Sunday!!! I bought mine brand new from a pawn shop and they called in on me and 1/2 hour later I was walking out with my new gun but the call was made!!!! That is why I’m so interested in buying a couple from a private owner so that there IS NO record of it!!! That is the only way that you can avoid the background check!!!

  • DDS — NRA Life member

    Mayor Bloomberg is the Mayor of the City of New York. Thats all! He is not governor of the State of New York or any other state for that matter. As such I would strongly urge him to stick to his knitting. If the criminal underclass was not running rampant in his city there would be no market for guns to be smuggled there. And I would strongly urge the voters of the city to ask themselves why the mayor is pointing fingers at other jurisdictions instead of fixing the problem right at home?

    • Vigilant

      Liberals have a congenital defect that forces them to stick their nose into everyone else’s business but their own.

      • Robert Smith

        From Vigilant: “Liberals have a congenital defect that forces them to stick their nose into everyone else’s business but their own.”

        Really? What about the neocon effort to sniff between the legs of women in the abortion issue in the name of their god?

        What about gays who want to marry or enlist?

        What about DENYING health care to millions of Americans, even against their own self interest?

        Rob

        • JC

          I agree Robert, homosexuals should be allowed to enlist.
          We’ll turn them into an elite fighting squad and they go in first…everytime.

          Woman and abortions are none of your business or anyone else’s that isn’t a woman.

          And if homosexuals want to marry…fine! Get them into the same tax roll as the rest of us. They’re idiots for wanting it…but I digress…

          • Average Joe Patriot

            Yes, and who gets the house and pets when the lawyers get involved?

            Anti-gays and anti-lesbians are missing some good MSM entertainment bets. When this shit hits the airwaves, toss another sixpack in the fridge, nuke some popcorn. I may be a gun-toting straight and a-religious (yet spiritual), still I know a good TV season when I see it coming up.

            On the other hand…who cares? I’m in my sixties, met my first gay guy when I was about seven. He was eight. I doubt politics or societal norms influenced his supposed “decision” that day after school in his basement. Nor mine. He had bad breath and was weird so I took my leave, never to return. Scarred for life, I was.

            Actually, I just recalled the experience, the first of many come ons from males and females. Still straight after all these years and many more encounters. I’d probably still say hi to him in the caf. Girls tried funny stuff with me, too. I’d probably say more than hello to them today, considering we’re old enough to know what’s up (when it’s up).

            The founders should have added that government shall make no laws concerning the innate behavior of our “lower units,” they’re about as ungovernable as an inherently free people. (As research into the sex lives of our founders would seem to indicate.)

            Did Jefferson mingle with his slave girls? Was Abraham Lincoln bisexual? I honestly don’t give a rat’s ass.

            Did they want to free the slaves or did they violate States Rights? Now we’re getting down to it. Those things, I’ve thoughts on.

        • JC

          OH! And as for health care? Get the government out of it…and you get rid of most of the corruption.

          • Robert Smith

            From JC: “Get the government out of it…and you get rid of most of the corruption.”

            Then how is it that all the other industrialized countries have better health care than us for way less money?

            We are just about equal with Cuba.

            Rob

  • Bob Parsons

    Ask Mayor Bloomberg why New York City, with its Sullivan Law which bans all firearms for everyone (except off-duty police, lawyers, judges, and politicians)still has one of the highest crime rates involving guns than cities and states that allow concealed carry for citizens who have not been convicted of a felony or misdemeanor involving domestic violence. The Sullivan Law has been in effect since 1957, and it is only recently that Miami took over as the number one gun related crime state. Ask Bloomberg to define “Criminal.” Is it not one who disobeys laws? FBI statistics prove every year that the highest crime rates are in those states that have the most strict gun control laws. What moron can’t get the picture?

    • Brad

      Bob,

      Those laws only apply to the law abiding citizens, criminals do not conform to local laws, they only see a disarmed citizenery ripe for the pickings.

      • Iam

        According to leftists, criminals OBEY the law. It’s the non-criminals who are breaking the law. That’s why they have to dis-arm the non-criminals, to protect the law abiding criminals.

  • Tom SC

    It seems to me the greatest danger to the 2nd amendment is people like Bloomberg. I have a feeling that if Bloomberg was armed and alone on the street and was confronted by an armed robber the first thing he would have to do is change his underwear!! If he really did find himself in this position I doubt he would survive the response time. Call for legislation in NY to remove his personal security. Save the state a few bucks…..

  • j.McConnell

    Bernard Goetz was called a “vigilante” for daring to be armed
    and to protect himself years before mayor I-bought- an -election
    Bloomberg came into office.

    • Robert Smith

      Bernard Goetz was just on William Shatner’s “Aftermath” program. It was very interesting.

      Rob

  • http://com i41

    When ever a Jewish group asked for donations to help immagrants get away from Russia or other pedophile countries. I always ask why as a group, they vote for democats. Some will say dems allow their business world, to work for them. And there is parts of the democrats party beleifs, they understand and aren’t bothered by them. Some people just don’t wake up until it to late, just like the simple minded feel good morons who voted for The Marxist Democrat Communist Union Party with the marxist muslim moron as their leader.

  • http://deleted j.McConnell

    I always liked the “Ted Kennedy’s car killed more people than my gun” bumper sticker!

    • Granny Mae

      OH thats a good one ! I wish I had one of those bumper stickers !
      Dang it I do wish I had one !!!! LOL !

    • Robert Smith

      “I always liked the “Ted Kennedy’s car killed more people than my gun” bumper sticker!”

      More people died in Teddy’s car than in any nuclear plants.

      I’m old enough to remember the ad: “If Ted Kennedy had been driving a VW he would have been President.”

      Rob

  • Teresa

    Fact…there are more people killed by doctors every year than by guns in the US.

    • independant thinker

      So true, so true. If I remember correctly there are also more people killed in swimming pool accidents than by guns.

    • Vigilant

      Reminds me of the true story of how, a few years ago, the doctors went on strike in Italy and after a month the hospitals complained that too many vacancies were appearing in room occupancy. Turns out the mortality rate actualy decreased!

  • Mick

    Teresa says:
    October 22, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Fact…there are more people killed by doctors every year than by guns in the US.

    **************************************
    Damn Teresa. i didn’t know that other women thought the same way I did on this subject, most of them give me the evil eye when the medical profession is brought up and I voice my honest opinion in the matter. ….

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Mick,
      You are a WOMAN?!?!?!?!?!? I thought you were a guy!!!

      • Mick

        Joe H. says:
        October 24, 2010 at 12:22 am
        Mick,
        You are a WOMAN?!?!?!?!?!? I thought you were a guy!!!
        *************************
        Joe………Nope. I’m not a guy although many liberal women think I should be just because I don’t cater to wimps .
        I was told by one of my sisters-in-law that I was a disgrace to womanhood,,, Made my day considering where this comment came from but she didn’t have a clue why I was so happy to hear her say that…He..he……………

    • JC

      That’s a fact. Your chances of being killed by a Doctor in the US are about 9 times greater than being killed by a gun.

    • Granny Mae

      OH You are not alone ! There are so many doctors out there today that shouldn’t be doctors. Funny thing is, having been in close with a medical family I know that these doctors know who the quacks are but they never report them ! Why? It just might be time for doctors to start policing their own !

      • Granny Mae

        Their cost for malpractice insurance might just start going down.If the quacks were gone there wouldn’t be so many law suits ! So doctors keep protecting your quack colleges and pay through the nose for your mal practice insurance !

        • Claire

          My husband has so many doctors it is beyond belief. So many doctors “specialize” in a certain ailment and not many of them communicate with each other even though they have the same patient. A person truly has to keep track of everything that is going on. For example, one doctor will prescribe a medication and the other doctor will say OMG he can’t take those meds. Look at the ads on TV regarding medicine. They always say “Tell your doctor if you have kidney disease or liver problems.” Good grief, your doctor SHOULD KNOW this. These past 10 years have made me very uncomfortable regarding doctors and medication. Nowadays if a person has a really GOOD doctor all I can say is hang onto to him. I am to the point that if I become ill I want to go to the small animal clinic at the University of Illinois. The vets there are awesome. It takes more education to become a vet than it does to become a human doctor. Animals cannot tell you where they hurt, people can. A vet has to really “work” at finding the problem.

          • Claire

            Here is an interesting comment I heard recently–a person comes into this world and starts out wearing diapers, and they are wearing diapers when they depart this world. For some reason this startled me. I was aware of it, but I had never given much thought to this aspect in life.

          • Mick

            Claire says:
            October 24, 2010 at 8:17 am
            My husband has so many doctors it is beyond belief. So many doctors “specialize” in a certain ailment and not many of them communicate with each other even though they have the same patient. A person truly has to keep track of everything that is going on. For example, one doctor will prescribe a medication and the other doctor will say OMG he can’t take those meds. Look at the ads on TV regarding medicine. They always say “Tell your doctor if you have kidney disease or liver problems.” Good grief, your doctor SHOULD KNOW this. These past 10 years have made me very uncomfortable regarding doctors and medication. Nowadays if a person has a really GOOD doctor all I can say is hang onto to him. I am to the point that if I become ill I want to go to the small animal clinic at the University of Illinois. The vets there are awesome. It takes more education to become a vet than it does to become a human doctor. Animals cannot tell you where they hurt, people can. A vet has to really “work” at finding the problem.
            *******************************
            Claire,,,Claire,,,I haven’t been able to find a good doctor since 1992 except for a hand doctor in Missouri who went out of his way literally to save my two fingers that an emergency doctor screwed up royally,
            I wish I could find a general practitioner as dedicated as Doctor POL…

  • Mick

    Mick says:
    October 22, 2010 at 12:50 pm
    flaguypl says:
    October 22, 2010 at 9:43 am
    Have you ever noticed how the liberals are always talking about gun control,, When do you ever hear them talking about criminal control, Stop being a sanctuary city, stop illegals from raping this country by using all of our resources, health care, welfare, medicare, jails which we as taxpayers also pay for. we have guns to protect ourselves from the element that you & your kind propose to drain & hurt us, get your priorities in order, we don’t have 24 hr. nypd guarding us, and after your time you can afford 24 hr guarding & ass kissing, we don’t. as a retired nyc cop, i know we can’t protect ourselves & when the police are called after the fact, they take a report.. reports don’t keep you out of the hospital or cemetary

    &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

    flaguypl……………OH,,,! HOW RIGHT YOU ARE…
    BUT DON’T FORGET IF THE LIBERALS WERE TO GO AFTER THE CRIMINALS AS MUCH AS THEY DO LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, WHO IN THE HELL WOULD VOTE FOR THEM ? IT WOULD LEAVE THEM WITH THE LOONS WHO BELIEVES THE CRAP THEY PUT OUT ON THE DAILY BASIS..LET’S HOPE WE HAVE MORE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LEFT THAN THAT .

    • Vigilant

      You’re right about that, Mick. Were it not for incarcerated criminals, Al Franken would never have been “elected.”

      • Robert Smith

        Actually convicted fellons aren’t allowed to vote in America. Where are you?

        Rob

        • independant thinker

          I know some states have proposed letting them vote. I have not seen the outcome of any of those proposals.

    • JC

      Seen on a woman’s T-Shirt at a locla pistol range:

      Gun Control: The absurd theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose is somehow morally superior to the one explaining to police how her attacker recieved a fatal gun shot wound.
      :) Love it!

      • Robert Smith

        I like the one that says, “If you haven’t seen a man shoot from a motorcycle honk.”

        Rob

  • Mark

    bloomberg is an idiot and a blind fool. Nuff said. I suppose if folks used baseball bats to start killing that some rich idiot like bloomberg or pelosi would want to serialize baseball bats. dang, now doesn’t that just make a whole lot of sense.

  • Teresa

    Things that I found helpful by living this long. The purpose of fighting is to win..

    The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either… The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

    1. Don’t pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he’ll just kill you.

    2.. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.

    3. I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.

    4. When seconds count, the cops are just minutes away.

    5. A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him ‘Why do you carry a 45?’ The Ranger responded, ‘Because they don’t make a 46.’

    6. The old sheriff was attending an awards dinner when a lady commented on his wearing his sidearm ‘Sheriff, I see you have your pistol. Are you expecting trouble?’ ‘No Ma’am. If I were expecting trouble, I would have brought my shotgun.’

    7. Beware the man who only carries one gun. HE PROBABLY KNOWS HOW TO USE IT!!!

    But wait, there’s more!

    I was once asked by a lady visiting if I had a gun in the house. I said I did. She said ‘Well I certainly hope it isn’t loaded!’ To which I said, of course it is loaded, it can’t work without bullets!’ She then asked, ‘Are you that afraid of someone evil coming into your house?’ My reply was, “No not at all. I am not afraid of the house catching fire either, but I have fire extinguishers around, and they are all loaded too”.

    • Rick Quill

      I gotta say I really liked the last suggestion. Could I recommend an additional tidbit to it? After asking the person if they own a gun and finding that they don’t, then ask them to put a sign in their front yard that not only states “there are no guns in this house” but add “and if you decided to violate my castle please call the police before hand and let them know this address is about to be invaded.” This would be beneficial for the really hard-core anti-2nd amendment purveyors that just don’t get it.

      • Teresa

        lol, i actually have a sign in my yard that says…My neighbor wants to ban all guns, Their house is Not Armed, Out of respect for their opinion I promise NOT to use MY guns to protect them!

        • libertytrain

          Teresa – enjoyed both your comments very much today :)

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Teresa,
          Just for laughs, I hope your neighbor DOES have guns!! Imagine the shock when the perp comes in the window to a 45 barrel or better yet a 16 gauge stuck in his face!!!!! LOL!

          • Granny Mae

            My brother-in-law has a dog that doesn’t bark but he does bite. He was broken into one time and the robber got the shock of his life. The dog took him dow unsuspectingly and when he started yelling my brother-in-law came in with his shotgun ! The robber tried to sue him for the dog attack but it didn’t stick. The robber was all the way in the house and halfway into the dinningroom before the dog attacked so the court rulled it was his own fault that he was attacked by the dog. Get this! If he had still been standing on the porch and not in the house he would have been able to sue my brother-in-law ! What the heck is that !

          • Claire

            Granny Mae— It is true, if someone tries to rob your home, etc. you have to make certain they are IN the house before you shoot. Robbers will be in for a rude awakening if they try to enter my home.

          • libertytrain

            I do recall when visiting a party being held by a female single woman – I was talking with her when she asked the Sheriff of my former Florida town what to do if someone broke in the house while she was at home, armed of course, – he said shoot him and drag him inside.

          • Average Joe Patriot

            Libertytrain: I had a Boston police lieutenant say basically the same thing once after my store was robbed by two obvious druggies at gunpoint. I had a gun under the counter but an employee and a customer in the store, within easy cross-fire range. The cops were called to take a report afterward (a patrol car was actually sitting across the street and trolley tracks and the perps jogged right by them up a side street. The uniforms never woke up till I hailed them–then they treated me like a perp till the plainclothes arrived. I told them I had a licensed gun on the premises.)

            “What if I’d nailed one of them in the back as they left?”

            “You drag him back inside the store.”

            “What about the fact of the bullet hole, um, being on the wrong side?”

            “Once you get him inside shoot him in the front, say you fired two shots in rapid succession and he was spinning as he fell.” The man wasn’t making this up on the spur of the moment, spoke casually but seriously, as though patiently explaining local parking regulations to a newbie.

            Sounded like standard police procedure to me. Mind you, I was a complete stranger to this plainclothes cop, we were not friends. He was merely advising me as cop to citizen/business owner on “best practices” to follow.

            The year? Around 1972. Probably wouldn’t happen today, they’d just impound the weapon and take me downtown for questioning. Just to be on the safe side. One of the reasons I moved west.

          • Teresa

            Claire says:
            October 24, 2010 at 8:35 am
            Granny Mae— It is true, if someone tries to rob your home, etc. you have to make certain they are IN the house before you shoot. Robbers will be in for a rude awakening if they try to enter my home.

            You can shoot them in your yard if you would like, just make sure you drag them into your house!

          • libertytrain

            This popular sheriff of a very high-end Gulf side of Florida town – didn’t take any time with his answer either – I always voted for him after that good common-sense answer.

          • independant thinker

            “– he said shoot him and drag him inside.”

            I have heard that as well but the sheriff isn’t the one who makes the ultimate decision on filing charges the DA makes that decision so if you happen to have an unfrendly DA you could be charged anyway based on forensic evidence.

  • ONTIME

    Can you believe that there are those touting this little fascist RINO as a possible candidate as a POTUS, can anyone see any difference between him and the present UNcredentialed clown in the White HOuse?

    • alpha-lemming

      John McLame redux.

  • Rick Quill

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    ——————————
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    ——————————
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    —————————–
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    —————————–

    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
    With guns, we are ‘citizens;’ without them, we are ‘subjects’.
    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens
    The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.
    —————————–

    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE EACH A RIFLE.
    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
    IT’S A NO BRAINER! DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

    • JC

      56 million reasons to own at least one gun. Absolutely right!

      • Average Joe Patriot

        Then that would make, what, 112 reasons to own two. Or wait, let me get my calculator…

        Screw it, my local weapons only hold 50 rounds, total before reload…

        …then again, Jeremiah Johnson only had three…hmm.

  • Jim H.

    Bloomberg says that states with lenient gun laws are contributing to illegal guns in other areas. In the “lenient” states those guns aren’t illegal. Maybe unreasonable gun control laws, are the biggest contributors to “illegal” gun ownership.

  • The Best Defense

    The Best Defense Is A Good Offense.

    We need to work with the next Congress on gun control laws for sure – Repealing the National Firearms Act and repealing the Gun Control Act and creating a nationwide concealed carry license good in all jurisdictions regardless of local law. This is how we will keep people like Bloomberg at bay.

    By the way, the 10 states that Bloomberg states supply about 50% of the guns used in crimes have, not surprisingly, about 50% of the population. The list includes California, Florida, Texas, and Pennsylvania, all huge states. It’s not news at all, it’s obvious they would.

    • Claire

      The Best Defense—Your first sentence is the key.

    • Robert Smith

      From Best Defence: “creating a nationwide concealed carry license good in all jurisdictions regardless of local law.”

      What about states’ rights? Ain’t that one of the primary goals of the right?

      Oops, I guess not. They want to use the feds to enforce drug laws in California where the population has spoken at the voting booth to allow medical pot.

      Oh, and Oregon that has VOTED to allow assisted suicide. Ashcroft was happy to go in there.

      May I conclude that those on the right don’t want state laws respected?

      Rob

  • The Best Defense

    Here is the argument from Bloomberg’s article: “nearly half the guns used at crime scenes came from just 10 states.”

    Here are the those ten states, along with their 2009 population per Wikipedia:

    1. Georgia 9,829,211
    2. Florida 18,537,969
    3. Virginia 7,882,590
    4. Texas 24,782,302
    5. Indiana 6,423,113
    6. Ohio 11,542,645
    7. Pennsylvania 12,604,767
    8. N. Carolina 9,380,884
    9. California 36,961,664
    10. Arizona 6,595,778

    These are all the largest states. The total population of these states is 144,540,923. The population of the United States in 2009 is 305,529,237 (http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2008/12/31/us-population-2009-305-million-and-counting.html) That 47.3% of the population. The fact that 47.3% of the population supplies “nearly half the guns used at crime scenes” should come as no surprise to anyone. They are exporting guns at an average rate.

  • eddie47d

    You all keep saying Jan Brewer has the right to take laws into her own hands and deal with the immigration issue. Now when Bloomberg defends his city and their laws you all go off the cliff and accuse him of taking away your rights. There is absolutely nothing in the 2nd Amendment that says there can’t be “gun control”. There can be different gun laws governing what can be allowed in various jurisdictions.Some communities want open laws or no laws and some want very restrictive laws.Arizona elected Brewer to do what they think is right and NYC elected Bloomberg to do what is best for his city. Bloomberg knows and has proven that all the illegal guns found in his city are manufactured mostly in North Carolina and a few other places. Loose laws in one state can have a terrible impact on other states or jurisdictions.Look at all the border loopholes that can’t seem to be closed and how it effects all states. Then look at our porous gun laws and how they deliver guns into the hands of criminals. In 2010 almost anyone (the majority) can get a gun and no one is taking anyone’s’ guns away. Surprise,surprise:yet you all believe it is happening right now. I’ve heard the same thing for 40 years now so when does the truth get told and fear isn’t in charge.

    • Allan

      Eddie,
      You have no idea what all the buzz on AZ boarder and the immigration law battle is about! Sounds to me you’ve been blind-folded and brain washed all your life. I am not going to educate you here; however, you should do some true reading and digging and may be, just may be you’ll come to light.

      • JeffH

        Allan. I’ll warn you that you’ll get a more informed arguement from a fence post than from fast eddiot…He’s clueless and will remain clueless until his death.

        • JeffH

          …Thought I would add that fast eddiot can provide no proof to his N. Carolia illegal gun link which is how it always is with him.

          Show the facts dummy?

          • Allan

            Jeff,
            Lets not freez people in time and condemn them forever.
            Eddie still have a chance to the truth if he really wants.
            You think?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I don’t call him edduhhh! for nothing!!!

          • Granny Mae

            OMG ! This poor soul has no clue what so ever !

        • eddie47d

          Jeff; I was 100% sure you’d show up with your insulting responses.Nothing new there so why should I under any circumtances oblige you on anything. You’re the smart one (smart azz) so figure it out yourself.

          • independant thinker

            “Bloomberg knows and has proven that all the illegal guns found in his city are manufactured mostly in North Carolina and a few other places.”

            Nice try eddie but that one just won’t wash. N.C. has very little firearm manufactureing there are some custom gun shops but no large scale gun manufacturers. Most of the large scale gun companies are located in the N.E.

        • JC

          Brother, that is the truth. eddie might be the single most uninformed commenter here…but he’s good for enetrtainment.
          The state of Arizona, not Jan Brewer created a law that mirors Federal law…not “take the law into her own hands…the guy is a straight up propogandist.

          • eddie47d

            Then why do you call it Obamacare instead of Healthcare Reform? Obama is in charge just like Brewer is in charge.

          • JC

            Actually I call it Kenyan Health care…because it will be about as good as any third world cesspool has to offer.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey JC, please get your facts right. You claim: “Actually I call it Kenyan Health care…because it will be about as good as any third world cesspool has to offer.”

            FACT is that American health care is currently on par with Cuba.

            The other fact is that all other industrialized countries have national health care of some sort and they are doing better in health care for less money than we are.

            Rob

      • eddie47d

        Allan: I see the light on many issues and that includes the immigration problems. So why don’t you come out from behind that gun barrel and give me a reason why you think you are so well informed on the issues of the world. From January 2007 to April 2010 31,946 handguns and 41,093 assault rifles were seized in Mexico by their government.80% were traced to the USA and were confiscated from criminal organizations in Mexico. It’s fairly easy to trace most weapons so let’s make it clear they didn’t come from Eastern Europe. If Mexico is responsible for the drugs coming into America then shouldn’t we be responsible for all the weapons that flow into their country. They poison us with drugs and we arm the drug lords who kill thousands to keep their empires going. Both countries have their heads in the sand but if the Mexican government is finding large caches of weapons just think of how many weapons they are not finding. There are 7,000 American gun dealers within 100 miles of the Mexican border. Which means there are thousands more beyond that. So why don’t you ask yourself,why are there so many unscrupulous gun dealers that would fuel this war? That doesn’t have a damn thing to do with the 2nd Amendment. On May 11th of this year the Mexican Army confiscated 124 assault weapons,15 handguns,3 anti-tank rockets,5,000 rounds of ammunition and 1,375 ammo magazines. This was after a gun battle on a border town. That’s only one incident and we wonder why the Mexican Army can’t control the volatile situation on the order.

        • independant thinker

          “From January 2007 to April 2010 31,946 handguns and 41,093 assault rifles were seized in Mexico by their government.80% were traced to the USA and were confiscated from criminal organizations in Mexico.”

          You forgrt to mention that only a small percentage of the total weapons confiscated were submitted for tracing. many were not submitted for tracing because they were weapons the U.S. government had supplied to the Mexican authouities and many others came from other sources outside the US and so were not submitted for tracing.

          • JeffH

            independant thinker, all of those figures have been proven to be nothing more than a propaganda ploy by Feinstein and her anti-gun assault crew.
            The BATFE refused to support the figures made up by Feinstein and said that far less than a couple hundred have been traced back to the US. Big, big disparity there.

            Why would the Mexican drug cartels, which last year grossed between $17 billion and $38 billion, bother buying single-shot rifles, and force thousands of unknown “straw” buyers in the U.S. through a government background check, when they can buy boatloads of fully automatic M-16s and assault rifles from China, Israel or South Africa?

            Let’s be clear, American gun owners and American gun laws are not to blame for the violence in Mexico. Blaming American gun owners will not stop a single murder, nor will it stem the flow of drugs, money or firearms to the cartels.

            “Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought”……John F. Kennedy

            “I would rather die on the hill of Integrity, than live in the valley of Compromise”…..anonymous

            “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery”…….Winston Churchill

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I wonder how many of those were weapons left on the battle fields by American dead. Or how many were supplied by the CIA to the cartels!!!

          • eddie47d

            Joe, You are off you’re rocker on that one! Jeff, “Americans arms are not responsible for deaths in Mexico”. I think you are smoking heroin or maybe something stronger. You are so blinded by right wing extremism you’re senses are going fast. Oh, I forgot everyone is a liar but you. Keep feeding those fantasies. 80% of 41,000 assault weapons equal about 33,000 coming from this country. Hardly a small amount.

          • JeffH

            Hey eddiot, No one said “Americans arms are not responsible for deaths in Mexico” you big dummy. As for the figures you posted, they’ve been proven wrong and the BATFE refused to support them and the lying Diane Feinstein tried to use them as evidence in her quest to ban guns in America, which the BATFE refuted as wrong. Gun ownership is a passion for me and I, unlike you, know what is real and what is liberal bile. You only spew liberal bile.

          • eddie47d

            Never got a lick of information from Diane Feinstein so I don’t know where you keep coming up with you’re bogus B.S. I know you are good at fanning the flames Jeff.At least answer with an honest reply instead of some made up drivel.

        • Robert Smith

          Posted: “So why don’t you ask yourself,why are there so many unscrupulous gun dealers that would fuel this war?”

          Shucks, ain’t they just Amercan business men who are trying to stay ahead of the taxes?

          BTW, you may want to check out who Samuel Cummings was. Here is a clue: HE was an American small arms dealer. He founded the International Armament Corporation (also known as Interarms or Interarmco) in 1953, a company which came to dominate the free world market in private arms sales.

          He is the kind of entramanure the treaty that is so objected to was.

          Rob

      • JeffH

        MEXICO UNDER SIEGE
        Drug cartels’ new weaponry means war
        Narcotics traffickers are acquiring firepower more appropriate to an army — including grenade launchers and antitank rockets — and the police are feeling outgunned.

        Most of the weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semiauto- matic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

        The enhanced weaponry represents a wide sampling from the international arms bazaar, with grenades and launchers produced by U.S., South Korean, Israeli, Spanish or former Soviet bloc manufacturers. Many had been sold legally to governments, including Mexico’s, and then were diverted onto the black market. Some may be sold directly to the traffickers by corrupt elements of national armies, authorities and experts say.

        Senator Dianne Feinstein repeated the claim that 90% of seized guns come from America, and also stated that there are over 2,000 guns smuggled into Mexico from the U.S. each day.

        Feinstein even tried to elicit support for that number from a representative from the BATFE. But when he responded that the number was much lower, most likely in the hundreds, Senator Feinstein was clearly unhappy that he would not endorse her anti-gun soundbite.

        It’s not true.
        In fact, it’s not even close. By all accounts, it’s probably around 17 percent.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          Dam!! Now you exposed my illicit rocket launcher trade!!!! And I just started makin good money, too!!!

          • JeffH

            Damn sorry! LOL!

        • independant thinker

          “Senator Dianne Feinstein repeated the claim that 90% of seized guns come from America,”

          There is a little bit of truth to that claim and I emphasize little bit. The 90% numbrer comes from a report that said 90% of the firearms SUBMITTED FOR TRACING came from the US. What the report failed to mention the guns submitted were only a small fraction of the guns confiscated by the Mexican authorities and the only ones submitted were the ones likely to be traced to the US.

          • Allan

            I hung out at Enrico’s side walk cafe, North-beach in the 70′s and the mayor was known as Dian FeinSwine then. She tried to tear down the Embarcadero freeway so her husband could develop his project there but the Chinese and Italians didn’t go for it.
            JC…
            The new IRS agents are among FBI elites and they are an international operative.
            Since 9/11 Uncle has pried into most of the off shore banks and caught quit a few millions. Why dash US dollar off shore in this dollar chaotic time? Contact Perth Mint instead.

            Eddie…
            You’re ok… because you say what you believe in and it’s not your fault at all.
            You see, as an honest everyday American, in every sense that Uncle Sam molded/wanted you to be… clueless. I don’t know how old/gray you are but have you ever lived in another country that enabled you to look in from the outside?

          • JeffH

            independant thinker, also that 90% number kept shrinking everytime it was refuted. The fact is, no one knows what the real facts are except that arm that come from the US through the borders are miniscule and legal gun dealers play no role other than they’ve been wrongly used as a scapegoat by the liberal anti-gun Feinstein.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO;eddie47d ,bloomberg defends his city,what has that left wing snake ever done to defend NYC,tell that one to all the victims that were killed in NYC,because they counldnt defend themselfs,or those who became just more numbers,in the list of those who were victimzed by the criminals that were let out on the streets of NYC because the jails were so full and the courts so overloaded that the assitant D.A.s cut those murderous career criminals,sweet sentances that let them out on the streets again,only to do more criminal acts,time to put on the eye glasses,thing are not right in your dream world,in truth,america is turning into a war zone.and if you cant protect yourself against armed law breakers,then you will become just another number on the dead list,and thats the hard fact,you just overlook,and if you feel so strongly,why not go to old mexico and tell the drug gangs to disarm,then you would get the point firsthand,and we would have one less marxist on this site,better yet in this republic.

      • eddie47d

        Not everyone in America wants to live in the “wild west”. Those were’nt always the good ol’ days shown in Hollywood movies. There were more tragedies than blessings back then and in some cases it’s worse now. Since you are so in favor of guns flowing through America like water shooting down a rapids. Then I say it’s about time you bought a new pair of glasses and take responsibility for those deaths in NYC. If you want to point fingers then look in the mirror and start aiming.

        • JC

          You watch too much TV eddie. The old west wasn’t nearly as violent as Hollywood makes it out to be. The smae factors were at play then as are now…if everyone has a gun, no one wants to get shot for committing a crime with one. And no one wants to die.

          • Allan

            There were no “high noon” fast gun duels in the old West… everybody was shooting each others in the back! General Custer never stood there last… he ran like hell for his life.

          • eddie47d

            JC: I watch very little TV.Way too much fantasy.Although we do subscribe to netflix alot of movies are full of hype and distortion also.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          eddie47d YOU SHOULD LOOK ,the wild west was much more civilzed,than now,for everyone had the right to protect themselfs,but now the morons that have pushed this anti-gun agenda,arent telling the truth,there are a mass of lawless people,that would love to see everyone disarmed,that way they could do as they wish,to the disarmed sheeple,myself i rather keep the weapons i own,and in 45yrs they have served me just fine,and i dont need some left wing neo-com communist troll,telling me my god given right to defend my family,since you dont care for guns,thats your personal bussiness,so dont get so arrogant telling gun owners,about guns,for your finger will defend you well,when some thug makes you a victim,you can tell him,he cant brake the law,because you are armed with your magic finger and all you have to do is say bang,your are dead,in your dreams,get real jackass! look in the mirror,you are a small minority at best and not very smart too boot.when it hits the fan,you have all the marks of being a victim of some lawless dirtbag.in your case well deserved.

        • Mick

          eddie47d says:
          October 23, 2010 at 3:57 pm
          Not everyone in America wants to live in the “wild west”. Those were’nt always the good ol’ days shown in Hollywood movies. There were more tragedies than blessings back then and in some cases it’s worse now. Since you are so in favor of guns flowing through America like water shooting down a rapids. Then I say it’s about time you bought a new pair of glasses and take responsibility for those deaths in NYC. If you want to point fingers then look in the mirror and start aiming
          *******************************************
          eddie47d,,,Are you telling us that in order to defend ourselves and our properties we have to have the wild west mentality,,,Count me in !

        • eddie47d

          Here comes Vaskal with the name calling. I hope you don’t shoot you’re guns off as wildly as you do your mouth. I favor the 2nd Amendment just not in your wide eyed interpretation. There are important facts on both sides of the issue so don’t swallow all the swill from every pro-gun group. Keep your weapons but acknowledge the lax laws that gun dealers bend. I know they’re not in the majority but sh*t happens. Kind of like liquor laws and sellng cigaretts to minors. That’s life;for there is always someone who screws it up for everyone else.

          • JeffH

            The words of a complete eddiot “Keep your weapons but acknowledge the lax laws that gun dealers bend.”

            fast eddiot, why don’t you tell us, with all of your vast knowledge about gun dealers, just what “lax laws” they bend.
            The truth shall set you free!

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            TO;eddie47d,the point i am trying to make is that many gun owners are not going to give up their weapons,just because some left wing troll,thinks its his right to abridge my god given right to defend my family and my person,look at the thruth if it is so safe,why is it that all the folks pushing this anti-american agenda,have armed personal protecting them and their families always,its nice to have power over those who brake the law,at least you can count on your own judgement,and the leftwing knows it,then they will abridge everyones rights,you see arms make this republic possible,all our freedoms even yours look what has happened all through modern history,millions of innocent people killed by governments that have taken the citizens right to bear arms,and mexico is no differant,if the citizens there had the right to bear arms,do you think that the scumbags down there would stand a chance against an armed population,the answer is no way,so you see its good to not believe all youve been taught,because the people that believed in justice in history,have found out,that a single weapon can make the differance between life and death ask an person that has survived,for example,a jewish person that survived the second world war or a russian that survived the communist revolution the result is the disarmed citizen went to their deaths because those in power knew they could not defend themselfs from their own leaders,that went power hungry,where only they controlled the population,and bloomberg knows this as do all the leftwing neo-com communist gun control freaks,i well say this only once,it will be a cold day in hades when i let anyone abridge my right to bear arms,and that can be taken to the bank,for thats a promise(a golden one),that my father who fought against the nazis payed in full giving up all he ever never had to defend everyones rights to say no.

          • eddie47d

            Obviously Vaksal you have me all figured out.NOT! I never once said I want you’re guns taken away. You all go off the wall no matter what is said.

        • Robert Smith

          From Eddie47d: “Not everyone in America wants to live in the “wild west”. Those were’nt always the good ol’ days shown in Hollywood movies.”

          The Hollywood movies are ENTERTAINMENT, not documentaries.

          There were almost no incidents of cowboys (good or bad) going through a town shooting it up. They knew that most houses had guns in them with families behind walls. Daddy would pick up his Winchester, brace it against a window, and very quickly unmount anyone shooting like that near his family.

          “Duals” were common in Europe and America long before the “quick draw” game became any kind of deadly sport.

          Rob

    • Dragonaught

      There is a part in the Constitution regarding prohibiting “Gun Control” it’s “Shall Not Be Infringed”.

  • Allan

    It is a coward act to take guns away from law abiding citizens for political gain!
    Bloomberg should lead a champagne in confiscating guns from gangs and drug traffickers, especially in AZ boarder if he is a righteous statesman… but he has too much to risk being a billionaire mayor!
    He commented that majority of undocumented aliens pay taxes; they are usually young enough not to need medical care, they are usually here alone and they keep US dollars they earned in the US. Is Bloomberg psychotic? I walked into the county hospital and it’s filled with people who don’t speak a word of English and with puzzled look of what I am doing there.
    They send their earned dollar home, there entire family is here under our care and they don’t like us or anyone else.
    Mag Whitman employed her housekeeper for nine years and paid her $23 per hour… when the housekeeper acknowledged Whitman is running for governor she demanded Whitman to legalize her. I hope this case will wake everyone up on hiring undocumented workers… they don’t appreciate it, they will never be satisfied and they don’t even like you and will turn on you for a buck.

    • JeffH

      Allan, small correction on the Whitman housekeeper, Nicki Diaz. First, Whitman hired her through an agency and when Whitman learned she had lied on her application with false SS paperwork she then fired the housekeeper. The Democrats and Jerry Brown then smeared Whitman with the lies. The attorney is the same gal that represented the XXX porn star that was seeing Tiger Woods. Real creditable lawyer ya think?

      • libertytrain

        Sadly some attorneys are more interested in television appearances than anything worthwhile.

      • Vigilant

        JeffH:

        Yes, that was Gloria Allred, and she “all red,” there’s no doubt about that.

        • JeffH

          Vigilant, yep! She’s a “media whore” and now a “whore” for the Dems.

      • Allan

        True to all is said… this Nicki Diaz did asked Whitman to legalize her after acknowledging Mag was running for governor according to source. GA is a pretentious target-lawsuit Hollywood attorney who actually incriminated Nicki Diaz for using false social security card and documentation on national TV. Good job Gloria.
        Remember the movie “lord of war”? I seldom refer to movies but this one said a lot. I’m surprise there’s no “Secretary of Arm-Trade” in Washington.
        To answer your question Eddie, you’ll have to dig into the CIA and NSA to understand what I am referring to. You are exactly what “they” want in this country.

        • Granny Mae

          I think eddie is a blonde female !

          • Mick

            Granny Mae says:
            October 24, 2010 at 4:37 am
            I think eddie is a blonde female !

            *****************************
            Granny,,,unfortunatly, our educational system seem to produce and push the blond IQ’s to the limit,,,We need some help…………

          • eddie47d

            Sorry to dissapoint you Granny but I might be grayer than you and I don’t use Viagra ,if you’re interested. Let me check with my wife first sweetie.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Let’s ask Mike Bloomturd to explain what happened in Morton Grove, Illinois and Kennesaw, Georgia. Morton Grove banned handguns in the earl 1980s. Kennesaw retaliated by passing a law requiring all competent adults to own guns, saying it would welcome all of Morton grove’s confiscated guns. Morton Grove’s crime rate went up, but Kennesaw’s crime rate fell by over 50%. Of course, Bloomturd is probably aware of that. Bloomturd is just one of many crooked leftists, whose goal is not a gun free society, but to be able to control people. New Yorkers were foolish to re-elect this power hungry miscreant, who thumbed his nose at NYC term limit laws!!

  • Allan

    If the fed really wants gun control they should consult with China because they control all! No criminals dare to obtain gun to do their deeds unless they are ready to die… so why do it when you cannot stay alive long enough to enjoy what you took from others?
    Now, about knives, forks, spoons and chopsticks……

  • devildog77

    All the elitist loons on the left know that 2A is the teeth that will take a bite out of any government overstepping their boundaries with it’s citizens. Without our 2nd Amendment, you can kiss the rest of the rights goodbye…SEMPER FI

  • ChuckL

    Bloomberg is another liberal who never is able to see that the current laws might do the job if they were enforced. He would rather harass the law abiding citizen than actually stop criminals.

    He is another liberal who will never be confused by facts. He denies that the presence of many guns in the law-abiding citizen population means much less violent crime and reduced presence of guns among the law abiding always results in more violent crime.

  • Rick Quill

    To piggy-back off another comment earlier I have an idea they should try for a study. Have everyone in this country post one of two signs in their front yards or on their apartment doors that say either “There are not any guns in this residence” or “This residence has guns” Leave the signs up for a year and at the end of the year do a tally nationwide – the number of homes with guns that were broken into versus the number of homes without guns that were broken into. My bet would be that the number of homes that had the sign out front reading “There are not any guns in this residence” would have a much higher number of break-ins/invasions and personal assaults attributed to them.

    • Vigilant

      Rick,

      You’re right, of course, but that’s called “stacking the deck.”

  • http://personnellibertydigest Buck Crosby

    Bloomberg is and always has been a blooming idiot . I am sure he inherited or stole the money he bought his office with simply because he is too stupid to have earned it.

  • Jim

    Wow this is the Guy that wants to let the Muslims move in! they stop traffic every Friday in the middle of busy streets and pray. No one else can do that!, But this guy thinks it’s ok to disrupt every ones life in New York for these Muslims, and they want to SPIT in Americans EYE and build their monumont at the WTC site. WOW I thought New Yorkers had balls, but I guess not! As for the Gun control, keep ‘em handy and be ready, they are invading our country lets not make it easy for them! they want virgins, lets help them get there wish ASAP!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jim,
      He’s just worried that some guy that has his wife in the car dying and is trying to get to a hospital might shoot a couple of those “peace loving” muslims that are blocking the street he is trying to get up to get to the hospital!!! Ya think?? Maybe he should worry more about them illegally blocking a city street and leave worrying about guns to the criminals!!

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    WELL,maybe if bloomberg and his left wing neo-com communist buddies,started to lock up the criminals the law breaking deeds they get away with murder,rape,armed robbery and burglery,carjaking,and drug pushing,then maybe,he could say that he has done his job,but so far this moron that is pushing to disarm every american (LAW BIDDING)citizen,and has armed men protecting him (LAW PERSONAL)and lives in a protected gated community,does not hold water with the general voter,this guy should move to china,where he could fit in,but on second thought,he would get shot for being a corrupt public offical,he best look out,he might get investagated for all the contracts ,his buddies have gotten since he became the mayor,a real honest man,what a joke.the only control his should look at,is controling his wagging tongue.he best remember hes only a public employee and nothing more,and can be voted out quick,if he gets enough voters angry at his unamerican outlook,he just may get his pink slip too,just like the other employees in government are finding out this year.this (NWO FREAK MUST GO )vote the bum out.

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    P.S. and this mayor bloomberg was the same guy that was telling arizona,that controling their border and protecting their citizens was unlawful,it sends a message,that he doesnt care at all for the safety of anyones family,only his climb to power,a real tyrant in sheeps clothing,a true self serving dictator,with no end to his usurping agenda.

  • Allan

    True to all is said… this Nicki Diaz did asked Whitman to legalize her after acknowledging Mag was running for governor according to source. GA is a pretentious target-lawsuit Hollywood attorney who actually incriminated Nicki Diaz for using false social security card and documentation on national TV. Good job Gloria.
    Remember the movie “lord of war”? I seldom refer to movies but this one said a lot. I’m surprise there’s no “Secretary of Arm-Trade” in Washington.
    To answer your question Eddie, you’ll have to dig into the CIA and NSA to understand what I am referring to. You are exactly what “they” want in this country.

    • JeffH

      Allan, not trying to turn this into an arguement or a debate, BUT, it was Diaz under the direction of Allred that said that she asked Whitman to help her become legal.
      Who are we to believe…Nicki Diaz? Gloria Allred? I think not after what I’ve seen of the whole spectacle.

      • Allan

        Jeff,

        Who knows; in any case, Diaz is going to be prosecuted whether she said or Red said.
        The entire nation witnessed the fact that she used someone else’s SS card. The employment agency will be/should be under fire too.

        • JeffH

          You’re absolutely correct Allan. I could only hope that the traitorous Napolitano does the right thing for a change.

  • http://com i41

    I don’t know why anyone would ever doubt, a rino or any democrat not wanting to take away everyone right to possess a gun. When NRA says they only judge Congressional members, on their voting. But they never look at the complete voting record of underhanded ways to restrict ownership or ability to by firearmsv and ammo. Ammo and reloading supplies, the biggest impedement. I tell NRA everytime they call about renewal, until they did deeper in to the clowns they give good ratings to, I will not renew my member ship.

  • Rennie

    What NYC nneds to do is become it’s own state, so Bloomberg can rule his own little kingdom, build a great big wall around the place and lock himself in. We’ll gladly cement up the outside so he can keep all his nuts in the ausylum. Of course, the weapons will still arrive by ship, or be produced there (making a gun for close hand urban use doesn’t require more than basic machine skills), but then he can’t blame neighboring states for that. Upstate is sick of Bloomberg. And their dumping their welfare load on us. And onerous regulations and loss of jobs and tax base because they are too cheap or stupid to build a filtration system that would help protect them. There is a reason Upstate is becoming a ghost town, mostly due to what goes on in NYC and Albany. And now we have Price Andrw ready to bury the state in the grave his father dug for it we never got out of.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Rennie,
      actually, all it takes is an old style car radio antenna!!!

      • independant thinker

        If I remember correctly it’s called a zip gun.

  • http://com i41

    Bloomberg is just a corrupt “business man” who has done several questionable deals and is a wanna be dictator. He is a socialist democrat who changes his tag, to what ever is at the moment a story. He doesn’t have enough backbone, to tell muslims and all the other “minorities” to abide by our laws, like the citizens do. NYC is such a sewer and are elitist s==t hole of the money manulipators. Also has been the home base of the democrat corrupt party and their gangs for decades.

  • Allan

    The Obama healthcare scheme includes a buildup of another 17,000 IRS agents. This was confirmed by the IRS commissioner Douglas Shuman in his testimony before Congress. An estimated 77,000 job providers who employ between 50-200 workers face a potential $2,000 per employee fine if the new army of IRS healthcare enforcers find them to be out of technical compliance with the mandatory insurance feature of the new law.
    An additional 116,000 small businesses employing between 35-49 workers will also come under the jurisdiction of the new IRS health enforcement division.
    Meanwhile, if you are among the country’s tens of millions of Health Savings Account (HSA) and Flexible Spending Account (FSA) holders, starting in 2011 you will no longer be able to use tax-free funds for over-the-counter drugs. And if you pull money out of an HSA for a non-qualified expense, your tax penalty also doubles to 20% (in addition to the existing requirement that your withdrawals are added to your taxable income)… even pro-Administration fat-cat Warren Buffett called “2,000 pages of nonsense…”

    • JC

      I wonder what all these IRS “Agents” are going to do when there’s no one left to tax…

  • Mick

    Granny Mae says:
    October 24, 2010 at 4:08 am
    My brother-in-law has a dog that doesn’t bark but he does bite. He was broken into one time and the robber got the shock of his life. The dog took him dow unsuspectingly and when he started yelling my brother-in-law came in with his shotgun ! The robber tried to sue him for the dog attack but it didn’t stick. The robber was all the way in the house and halfway into the dinningroom before the dog attacked so the court rulled it was his own fault that he was attacked by the dog. Get this! If he had still been standing on the porch and not in the house he would have been able to sue my brother-in-law ! What the heck is that !
    **************************************************
    Granny Mae,,,,,,The Liberals have made a career at defending and assuring that the criminal’s rights are protected over our the law abiding citizens rights all in the name of human rights ” So they say ” I guess it would make us less than human with their theory ?

    • Allan

      Mick…
      Some years ago, a Hollywood celibrity who raised a couple of tigers and lions since birth that live in her heavily gated front and backyard… and like you discribed, dumb and dumber broker into her property one night and they both pee and poop in their pants when the security lights came on.

  • http://com i41

    Make sure you don’t have any lights on when you shooy at least 2 times,so the ambulance chasing prosecuting attoney cann’t add that you are a racist for shooting a minority and you had planned it out because you could see the perp. One shot means you were aware and not afraid for your life, so empty the clip, since you were really scared.

  • Allan

    Dup.
    I hung out at Enrico’s side walk cafe, North-beach in the 70′s and the mayor was known as Dian FeinSwine then. She tried to tear down the Embarcadero freeway so her husband could develop his project there but the Chinese and Italians didn’t go for it.
    JC…
    The new IRS agents are among FBI elites and they are an international operative.
    Since 9/11 Uncle has pried into most of the off shore banks and caught quit a few millions. Why dash US dollar off shore in this dollar chaotic time? Contact Perth Mint instead.

    Eddie…
    You’re ok… because you say what you believe in and it’s not your fault at all.
    You see, as an honest everyday American, in every sense that Uncle Sam molded/wanted you to be… clueless. I don’t know how old/gray you are but have you ever lived in another country that enabled you to look in from the outside?

  • Mick

    Robert Smith says:
    October 24, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    Awwww Mick, “kinna put a wrench in my freedom of speech…………”

    What about their freedom no to listen?

    Frequently women are assaulted as they try to enter clinics.

    A church has been protesting a strip club for many years. Do you believe that’s right? Check out: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/dancers-ohio-strip-club-protest-church/

    Rob
    ******************************** Awww……Rob …What the hell is that crap about women entering clinics and strip clubs have to do with what gary and I were talking about ??……………
    I know , the left consider every wacky actions freedom of speech

  • Allan

    Friends may I change the subject for a moment here:

    “Left” and “right” hands lead to the same body… is America ready to replace both? Or is it possible at this point?
    One of the first thing needs to be done is to get rid of the Federal Reserve System that was created by Rothschild, Rockefeller, J.P Morgan, Warburg and Franklin D. Roosevelt. The word “System” is used because it was never a bank, the Federal Reserve System is creating money out of nothing, loaning it to the U.S. government and then collecting interest on the loan. It is, perhaps the greatest private “ponzi scheme” in history.
    This intervention by the Federal Reserve System is keeping interest rates on U.S. Treasury bonds artificially low. In a true “free market” situation, the interest rates on U.S. treasuries would rise to reflect the rapidly declining economic situation in this nation.
    Due to the massive explosion in the size of the U.S. government debt and due to the very weak U.S. economy, interest rates on U.S. treasuries should have shot through the roof by now. Rational investors would normally require an increased return for the increased risk that U.S. treasuries now represent… But that is not happening. Instead when there are no buyers for U.S. treasuries at current interest rates, the Federal Reserve System just steps in and buys up all the excess bonds that need to be purchased. Remember that the Federal Reserve System is owned and operated for profit by a very powerful group of elite international bankers. Further reading: http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ponzi-scheme-the-federal-reserve-bought-approximately-80-percent-of-u-s-treasury-securities-issued-in-2009

  • Allan

    Here’s a little humor:

    Subject: Fw: An airplane was about to crash

    An airplane was about to crash. There were 5 passengers on board, but
    only 4 parachutes.

    The first passenger said, “I am President Obama, the chosen one. The
    world needs me, I
    can’t afford to die.” So he took the first parachute and left the plane.
    The second passenger, Nancy Pelosi, said, “I am the Speaker of the
    House. And I am the
    smartest woman in American history, so America’s people don’t want me
    to die.” She took
    the second parachute and jumped out of the plane.

    The third passenger, John Kerry, said, “I’m a Senator, and a decorated
    war hero from the
    Army of the United States of America.” So he grabbed the parachute
    next to him and jumped.

    The fourth passenger, ex-President George W. Bush, said to the fifth
    passenger, a 10-year-old schoolgirl, “I have lived a full life, and
    served my country the best I could. I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute.”

    The little girl said, “That’s okay, Mr. President. There’s a
    parachute left for you.
    America’s smartest woman took my schoolbag.”

  • Allan

    Did you read the news:
    Did you know that the SEIU represents the voting machine technicians in Clark County (Las Vegas), Nevada? Is it any surprise, as we noted earlier today, that there was a voting glitch in Clark County, Nevada? The glitch caused Harry Reid’s name to be automatically checked on the ballot before voters had indicated who they were supporting.
    The problem was widespread, “One person that’s a fluke. Two, that’s strange. But several within a five minute period of time — Something is very wrong.”

  • http://windowsxp/internetexplorer DEAN HARRIS

    bloomberg is a liberal, he does not like the CONSTITUTION, people like this keep getting voted in why? because the people who vote for him are brainwashed and most likely would rather live in a communistic country because they listen to the lies of progressive left wing liberal news. They have no concept of why this nation was founded, and bloomberg is the same, and he probably is apart of the one world order satanists.
    And the a.c.l.u. acts the same toward what is true, same actions in other countries (communism, marxism, tranny) but they with their liberal judges have twisted what the CONSTITUTION says and used the lie (satans way, the father of lies) “saying that there is a church/separation in the CONSTITUTION, LIE, LIE LIE.

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