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Many think U.S. headed toward socialism

January 16, 2009 by  

Is the U.S. going in the right direction?A new Fox News survey has found that half of Americans believe the recent stimulus packages and government support of private companies feels like a move toward socialism.

Some 50 percent of total respondents held this opinion, including 70 percent of Republicans, 53 percent of independents and 37 percent of Democrats.

At the same time, slightly more than half of all respondents said they think the best way to ease the country’s economic troubles is to encourage spending by individuals and businesses. Only 19 percent said government spending was the answer.

However, when it came to voicing opinions on President-elect Barack Obama’s specific stimulus plan, responses were more mixed.

Some 79 percent of Democrats said they supported it, along with 60 percent of independents. Just over half of Republicans opposed it.

"It will be interesting to see whether this level of support holds up once the details of the recovery plan come to light, especially given the public’s general preference for private rather than public solutions," commented Ernest Paicopolos of Opinion Dynamics, which conducted the poll for Fox News.

Obama has indicated that he believes strong government intervention is crucial to bring the economy out of recession.
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  • Frank

    If you trust FOX news and are scared of Obama, you probabely have a big pile of money and don’t care obout the ordinary people’s stragling – or you must be pretty well brainwashed by some religion’s groupes.

    • Margaret

      Frank, why don’t you learn how to spell? Meanwhile, leave interpreting economics and politics to those of us who are already literate!

      • kristian

        You go Margaret, lol, I was thinking the same thing. That is the kind of person that thinks a government hand out will fix all of the country’s ills. Unfortunately it is all of us working people that have to pay it back. So if Frank is a working individual he is out of touch with reality. You don’t get anything for free. You will pay it back ten fold, if not you then somebody will. There is no such thing as a stimulus package, it is money borrowed at a great cost from another country. Money that does have to be paid back. I personally don’t want it and no Frank, we people that don’t want that money do NOT have piles of it sitting around. We instead have worked hard for what we have and know we aren’t owed anything in life, except what we have earned.

        • cemott3rd

          A government ‘hand out’ is not what is needed, but nor is a Hoover style adherance to fiscal conservatism that pushed this nation into the Great Depression in the early 1930s. What is needed is for the government to properly maintain and responsibly expand our nations infrastructure which -due to Republican spending cuts- has become run down and neglected to the level of a 2nd world nation. This is an embarrassment and shows great disrespect for our Grandparents who worked so hard to bring this nation to the top of the class!

        • kristian

          cemott3rd, The last time I checked there were two parties in the house and the senate. If the Dem’s were so wanting to make things so rosey then I guess they should have banned together and made things happen. It is a fact that there are always dissenters on both sides that go with the flow and end up causing this or that bill to pass. The same is true with dealing with infrastructure. To state that Republicans are the root of all evil is irresponsible. The Dem’s and the Repub’s both have dirty laundry when it comes to not taking care of our nation. Furthermore, spending isn’t always the answer. That is what has put us on the brink of national bankruptcy. There needs to be less waste and more use of “available” monies for things that are truely needed. Furthermore we are hardly a 2nd world nation, there are problems without a doubt. However the whole nation isn’t broken. Waste and greed have led to most of the problems regarding poor infrastructure. Money that should have gone to repair roads and bridges have instead gone to lining the pockets of politicians on both sides. Also, we do need a government to spend conservatively, spending willey nilley by the federal or local government isn’t going to get us out of this situation. Instead they need to instill assurance in the American people where they feel it is safe to spend instead of hording their money. That is what will get our economy going and getting infrastructure problems fixed, not pulling out the federal credit card. I personally don’t want to work till the day I die to pay for somebody elses mistakes.

        • Marie

          I’m with Margaret and Kristian. I have worked veyr hard, given some things up, ang what I have is mine. It does not belong to the government to redistribute as they see fit.
          An example of how good the government will be with our increased tax dollars: When the American people decided to allow casinos to be built, and gambling to be legalized on the lie that tax dollars would go to education.

          However I believe there are enough of us out there that prefers to live in the real world, deal with reality, and willing to do what ever it takes to get the USA strong and free again. Don’t take too lightly the possibility of some wanting to throw away the Constitution and Bill of Rights with both hands, and the same ones looking for a hand out..

          One more thing,( and if you have college age children you know what I am saying here) I told my dauther that we spend alot of money sending her to college, which is very much a capitalist organization, for that school to preach socialism. It is ironic and I only asked her to consider that and see it for what it is.

        • http://arthurjbryant@sbcglobal.net Arthur J. Bryant

          cemott3rd You have been misled, probably by the public school system, and/or the liberal press-media. First, in 1987 the stock maket went down twenty per cent over two months. Then it went down 23 per cent in one day. A record. This was a financial panic. Result: no recession and soon the stock market was heading up. The reasonis that Reagan had cut income taxes thirty per cent and we were engaged in a rapid recovery from Carter’s stagflation with 14 per cent annual inflation.
          Now 1929. The stock market at first did go down sharply, then started to recover. This was a financial panic also, but nothing like 1987. Then the combine of Hoover-Roosevelt-Truman went to work, aided by a Democrat Congress. There was no end or liberal nonsense, starting with a tax INCREASE, not DECREASE. We went into a depression. The stock market again started down and did not reach bottom until 1932, then lagged until the 1950s. Unemployment in 1949 was as bad as in 1932
          Blaming this purely on Hoover is grossly unfair. It is true that despite his business success and great hamanity, he had little grasp of basic economics and did not cut taxes as he should. Then with a Democrat Congress and Roosevelt, we really went over the dam; much like the mistakes now being made by our liberal masters.

        • http://AOL Kathy

          Hear ye hear ye Margaret and Kristian!!
          I agree with both of you! Trickle up economics
          never has worked. Someone will always get
          hurt and it is not Big Government. Taxing those
          with high incomes and those with business’s
          will only hurt us all. And if you think Socialized med
          icin is the answer. Why are all the other countries
          longing for free help in the US?
          My husband and myself will be 50 this month..and
          we have worked for everything we have. And will
          soon have our house mortgage paid in full. From
          medical problems to layoffs. We have just gotten
          back on the saddle and struggled our way through.
          We probably will be working until we are 65-70.
          But that is ok. We will take pride in doing so..
          God Bless OUR FREEDOM in America! AS LONG AS IT LASTS.!!

        • Mickey Steib

          You have many benefits that you have not earned and I say that without knowing you, but only knowing that you are lucky enough to use the internet. Much of what you experience is based on very strong study, development efforts and research efforts of others. To those who think that they are self made successes I ask “On what desrted island did you accomplish your wealth and success?” Was there a system in place to facilitate what you did, were you protected from outside attack, was there a system of communication and education that informed you, were you protected from fraud and abuse, was your own reliability facilitated with regulations and assurances, were there police to keep trafic laws enforced when you drove on the (self made?) streets?

          • LocalYokel

            But Mickey, have you considered that all benefits that you mentioned are neither paid for by you nor a generous Saudi prince? The less than 20% that actually sweat to pay interest on all the loan debt incurred providing all federal, state, and local “benefits” also support all the professional parasites firmly attached to their wages whether wearing a uniform, suit or judge’s robe. If the shoe fits you, wear it while you can but never ever wear your hyena scent in a lion’s cage

        • Carolyn

          Kristin, you are so right. Good to know everybody hasn’t been conditioned to believe the nice speeches. People should know by now when the politicians are lying–Every time their lips are moving!

        • Yvonne

          You go girl! I couldn’t have said it any better!

        • Jay

          Frank I am of working class and I am scared of Obama and I do trust Fox news and I do not believe in organized religion. Obama scares me because he is a Marxist socialist and border line fasist. Everything he has done reeks of this, I listen and trust Fox news because they are the only news organization that tells the truth main stream media is quite biased. I work hard for what I have and I don’t want to give it away to lazy people that think the government and world owes them a living.

        • Mike

          What are we calling socialism??

          More than 50 percent of working aged adults pay no taxes or in fact receive tax credits at the end of the year.
          Many sit at home and get paid to do so by social programs like WIC, foodstamps, section 8 housing, etc.
          The government has taken over our private financial sector.
          The government has taken over our automobile industry.
          The government is taxing businesses at crushing rates.
          The government is trying to federalize the medical industry for no other reason than to be in charge of it, with the guise of helping people to get insurance.

          **We are already a socialist country!

          We must be very careful to not become a communist country, our allow a military police state overrun the population.**

      • http://no Arian

        Socialism is very good.Go and ask the east Europe,China,Cuba,Venezuela,some African countries,and many more.They are dying for bread,their governments kill people in name of socialism,and no one cares,try it and see.

        • margaret

          Ya, go socialism! …because THAT’S what we want: The EQUAL sharing of MISERY rather than the UNEQUAL distribution of WEALTH. We can’t have THAT!!!

        • alicia

          So right Arian! As a cuban american I can tell you my country of birth has been in MISERY for 50 long years, Venezuela is on the same path…. so yeah, that’s what lefts want for America!

        • Coal Banks

          Gov’ts of all political positions have done the same – including the free-enterprise, democratic gov’ts of North America & Europe. Read your own history esp of the late 1900′s to the present day.

        • Christine

          Socialism- r u serious? I certainly hope not! Stand up and take this Country back! If not our country is headed for a Change alright. I hope that we r prepared . You can talk all you want about socialism, take over’s, bail out’s, and Obama’s relationship with Ayer’s. But the bottom line is: You need to prepare yourself for what may and most likey will happen by the hands of terrorist’s to this country. When we have a president that apologizes to known terrorist countries and makes excuses for all of us- American’s for being arrogant, then you have got a weapon of mass destruction that the terrorist’s have been waiting for, for years!.
          How do you think they are looking at this administration? I know that if I was one of them, how I’d be thinking…..
          Please.!!!!!!!….. they have filmed the taking off of American heads and plastering it all over the airwaves. Suicide Bomber’s, not to mention their tactic’s in 911. Why have we forgotten this? Because now we have the threat of something bigger and more important to think about?
          So I quess it wouldn’t be so bad to be captured by the U.S. now with the new Admin. would it? What’s the worst that could happen to them.? A slap on the hand’s? A free meal 3xDay?
          I don’t think your worry of Socialism is going to be the biggest worry you will have with this Administration. The worst is yet to come.
          My advice to you is: have a back up plan. Grab your family, Buy a tent , some water, flash lights, put money under your bed, a survival guide, and freeze dried food. Stash anything that you may want or need to make it through a “very tough time”.
          Obama is the man your mother warned you about!

      • http://foxnews uthink

        I love your response to Frank.

        He sounds very young and he appears to be repeating what he has heard.
        I am glad he is on this site. Maybe he will discover truth instead of propaganda….

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Hey yos Franks. Whats you tryings to says? Whys a you gonnas goes ands slaps arounds da religions and stuffs? I means, dudes, whys you gots to bees so hards on Fox news. Youz a means sucka Franks.

      • keith

        is that all you can do? throw insulting remarks at someones spelling? just like you democrats to pick out something and nitpick it to death and try and make the speaker seem like a idiot,your all alike.you harp on save the whales and would’nt give a homeless person the time of day! your ALL hypocrits and speak useless escrement.your all traiters to the constitution and obamites.i despise all you tree hugging save the whales,bunch while this country is being trashed by your saviour,you all stand around in a brain dead trance and sing khoom-by-yah!
        hypocrits,traiters,etc……………

        • keith

          this statement was aimed at all you left wing queer loving morons who trashed the guy frank up top and to all left wingers in general,i.e:democrats and tree huggers,and the like ilk!

        • keith

          sorry,i saw that it was frank who is the libral brainwashed scumbag,read through the replys to quick.this is all aimed at him.

      • Brian Rawls

        LOL

    • NJguy152

      One sad day in History! The US Constitution is dissed! And the American people
      are defrauded!
      Disgraceful!
      (Sounds of Silence)
      Paul Simon conceived the song as a way of capturing the emotional trauma felt by many Americans.

      This verse expresses exactly what were in for with this Leftist Administration.

      (Re: Were on the Eve of Destruction)

      This song has never been more appropriate than now with the Inauguration of this Marxist President!
      God Bless America; Were going to need it!

      The best explanation I’ve heard in a long time:

      Put an Intellectual Conservative in a debate with a Liberal….

      It’s like putting Zorro in a Piñata factory!

      • Cathy McIver

        Well Said. Bravo!

        • Shavanna

          Ditto to Cathy’s comment. All the liberals can do is shout over the conservatives, because they don’t want the truth to be heard. I say where’s the next tea party near my house. The only difference between socialism and communism is a gun in the hands of the government and none in the hands of the regular folks.

          • http://none theoldman

            Barack Obama said it quite clearly in a campaign speech in the 2008 campaign:”I PROMISE YOU THIS: I WILL DISMANTLE THE AMERICAN POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, AND SOCIAL SYSTEM AND REBUILD IT ON A SOCIALIST PLATFORM.” Could anything be clearer than that? Hitler said something to the same theme with MEIN KAMPF. The whole world knows where that led. I was born a Democrat, raised a Democrat and followed that line until the election when Dwight Eisenhower ran and I was so disgusted I voted Republican and have ever since [until I decided to become an Independent]. Forewarned should be Forearmed!!!–the old man [82 years]

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Lynda

        I agree 100%~thank you for saying what I feel~God Bless us All!!!!

      • David Fox

        I agree with you NJguy, What is going to happen to the America that we used to know & Love! Obama likes Lincoln, Is Obama going to suspend the Constitution like Lincoln did?

        • Roger Munson

          June 18, 2009

          Barack Hussein Obama
          The White House
          1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
          Washington , DC 20500 or e-mail http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/

          Mr.”President”

          I have had it with you, your administration, and your Socialist political machine !

          The Presidency is NOT Chicago politics as usual.

          Your conduct, on your recent trip overseas, has convinced me, that you are not an adequate representative of the United States of America’s citizens, or of me personally.

          You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world, that you have
          abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United States of America.
          Why not apologize to Ahmadinejad and Kim Jong Il for the U.S. being a Democracy ?

          You are responsible to the citizens of the United States……NO ONE ELSE !

          You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on earth.

          I personally resent that you travel the world, apologizing for the United States,
          telling Europeans that we are arrogant, and do not care about their status in the world.

          Sir, what do you think the First World War, and the Second World War were all about, if not the consideration of the peoples of Europe?

          Are you brain dead ?, are you a coward ?

          What do you think the Marshall Plan was all about?

          Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?

          Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does not consider
          itself a Christian NATION ?

          Where do you get off making the statement ” America needs to soften up our feelings about muslims” ?

          Americans have no “beef” with the Muslim religion, we have a problem with terrorists tha happen to be Muslim extremists….get it right Mr. President, or keep your mouth shut !

          Have you not read the Declaration of Independence, or the Constitution of the United States?

          This country was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics, and the principles governing this country,
          come directly from this heritage…… Do you not understand this?

          Your bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia is a DISGRACE, and an AFFRONT to all Americans.

          Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the King of Saudi Arabia.

          You don’t show Great Britain, our closest, and one of our oldest allies, the respect they deserve, yet you
          bow down to the King of Saudi Arabia ?,,,,,,,,,, How dare you, sir ! How dare you !

          You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation, because you don’t
          want to offend the Germans, but make time to visit a Mosque in Turkey ?

          You offended our VETERANS that died SERVING / DEFENDING this country, and ALL VETERANS, when you give the Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from themselves ?

          Where is your ALLEGIANCE Mr. President ?

          I am convinced, that you, and the members of your administration, have the historical, intellectual, and moral depth of a mud puddle, and should be ashamed of yourselves…….you are a DISGRACE,
          all of you,the Senate, Congress and yes, the 16 Czars you appointed that are accountable to NO ONE.

          You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American automobile manufacturers,
          you do nothing about the real thieves, and FAILURES in this situation, Mr. Chris Dodd, Mr. Barmey Frank (oversees Fannie and Freddie and stated “both are strong and look good), Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie Mae collapse, and the Freddie Mac collapse.

          What do you intend to do about them? Anything?
          I seriously doubt it.

          What about the U.S. House members handing out $9.1 million in bonuses to their staff members,
          on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises that lawmakers gave themselves?

          I understand the average House aide got a 17% bonus.

          You haven’t said anything about that. Who authorized that?
          I surely didn’t!

          I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer.

          A.C.O.R.N.( a racist organization) has received $ 53,000,000.00 in federal funding, and you continue to fund them, while they are under investigation for fraud in 13 states (if the investigation is real, remember your AG appointee Eric Holder ?) , because they are “hood” organizers ?….what next….fund the “New Black Panther Party” ?

          Executives at Fannie Mae ( including one of Barney Frank’s male lovers), and Freddie Mac, will be receiving $210 million in bonuses over an eighteen-month period……. that’s $45 million more than the AIG bonuses.

          In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded $51 million…. not a bad reward for total failure and collapse.

          Who authorized that ?, and why haven’t you expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the economic mess we suffer this very day ?

          You fired Gerald Walpin, Inspector General, because he was investigating the Mayor of San Francisco (a friend and supporter of your machine), for mis-use of federal funds from Americorp, with a “trumped up” allegation he appeared “confused” at a meeting….GESTAPO TACTICS.

          I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as sheep, and believe we don’t understand or care about what you idiots do……you are so GOD DAMN (quoting your pastor / buddy Rev. Wright) WRONG !

          It is obvious, you intend to take America down the path to Socialism / Marxism, with your wealth re-distribution agenda.

          We are watching what you are doing, and we are getting increasingly disgusted with all of you.

          I also want you to know, that I personally find just about everything you do, and say, offensive to every one of my sensible beliefs.

          I see through you, you are a phoney,a political WHORE, a Socialist puppet, and a coward.

          I promise you, I will work, and organize, tirelessly, to see that you are removed from office early, or do not get a chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.

          Americans are organizing. The wheels are turning.

          Washington is about to witness a Citizen revolt, far beyond the realm of their imagination, that will rock Washington politics and the world !

          Start packing Mr. President, Senators, Representatives….your time in Washington is coming to an end.

          Sincerely,

          Roger J Munson
          New Port Richey Fl.
          And Every Real American

          • john alison

            to roger munson
            youre essay was 100% right and you are truly a REAL american
            god bless you and all the people who agree with the TRUTH

        • keith

          he can try,there will be more than 340,000 federal dead this time around! DOWN WITH SOCIALISM!!!!

        • LocalYokel

          He may be more like Lincoln than you think. In his campaign rounds, he had ten Chyenne braves brought out of the stockade in Ohio Territory and hanged for the occasion to get voter support. When his fellow officers had Sherman sent back to the capitol for unusual cruelty to POWs, Lincoln promoted him and sent him back to Atlanta to burn a 40 mile wide path of homes and crops from there to the Atlantic. BHO has made his intentions clear to all except those wearing the concrete shoes of denial. Give him an inch and he’ll take a mile even in a lame duck capacity without any party support but with full czar advice and court protection

      • Ada

        WEll said and a Big Amen

        • Wm. Steve R.

          Well written and said. Hopefully open some eyes and ears.

      • Mary

        We all lost our liberty under Bush and The Patriot Act. Save the guns but lose your liberty! Bush gave BILLIONS of dollars to another country–Iraq–and his buddies and you were all just fine with that. Now President Obama wants to spend money in this country to try to repair the damage done by Bush and his cronies and you complain. Do you recall the numerous No-bid contracts given out by Bush? Or don’t you care that your money went to Iraq and his pals–where they even just plain lost millions of dollars–dollars that were sent over to Iraq on pallets and then disappeared?

        Suspend the constitution? What the heck do you think Bush did? He was not only the least intelligent president ever, he and Cheney were the most dishonest! Torture and lies and you think that was a good thing? Torture has never worked–history has shown us that.

        Now we have not only an extremely intelligent and honest president, we have a chance to get back our honor and respect along with our liberty.

        As to socialism, what do you think public schools and roads are? Do you think every city and township could afford them without federal assistance? Aren’t they the very definition of socialism? Something that is done for the common good and paid for by all?

        I’m so tired of psuedo Christians–people who claim to be Christians but show by their very lack of concern for others that they are not. So WWJD? Not what you are doing–that’s for darned sure! Jesus defined socialism–so put that in your brain and deal with it.

        • Informed

          Mary, I will tell you what I think Jesus would do. He would expect us to pray for Obama and others that are in charge in the WH in fact for all Americans. But he would also tell us that Obama’s actions are not his. Jesus would never say that a baby should be aborted. Obama said it should be killed even if the baby survives a botched abortion. Jesus also says a man shall eat by the sweat of his brow, that means no free rides. As far as for Obama and his honesty, he is caught in a lie everyday. Before you ask us what would Jesus do read your Bible and then tell us what Jesus would do. Remember we will answer for what we do and allow others to do when we don’t speak out against evil at the judgement seat of Christ. Christians and Non Christians!
          Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Chrit is Lord.

        • http://gmail LC

          Mary, it would be interesting to see how or IF you would defend your spouse or child. Would you kill someone if they attempted to kill you loved ones? I’ll bet you would. The Patriot Act was put in place to protect the citizens of this country. Fundamentally, if you have nothing to hide, the Patriot Act would not do much to your rights. What’s astounding about your ignorance is that Obama and his Homeland Security Team videoed Tea Party participants and put them on a dissidents list, and that doesn’t bother you?????

          Obama isn’t spending money in this country for this country, Obama is spending money, expanding Goverment Control to an extreme that will impovrish and indept every American to the Goverment itself. This surpasses Socialism and is more indicative of a Marxist regime.
          While you may feel that “some” of your liberties were removed during the 911 era, (which has been dismissed by Obama), you fail to see that each and every day the Constitution and the liberties you enjoy under it are being eroded. Obama has Nationalized the banks, Under Cap and Trade the Government will be governing all utility companies. The Government is in possession of the Auto Makers, Banks, Insurance Companies like AIG, Merrill Lynch and B of A, and is clammering for more.

          Obama’s promises, like himself, are an empty suit. Expect your taxes to increase to around 70% of your income while he spends not only you but your children, grandchildren and great grand children into the poor house. This will make you and them a ward of the Government and in control of you and your liberties.

          My crystal ball tells me that Obama, a Malignant Narcissist, (and look it up Mary) has defamed the US in front of foreign Nations to gain their approval. He seeks out one world power, one world currency and I believe, hopes to be the world leader. Currently his aspirations appear to be to allow the “Dream Bill” (Pelosi) pass and allow all illegals to have citizenship, Section 8, Social Security and the Right to Vote without paying the dues which are required under our immigration laws. This indepts the millions of new citizens to the Democratic Party (who wrote and are pushing for this bill) and their vote. ACORN, another Democratic alliance, funded by the US Government practices unethical tasks for the Government like illegal Voter Registration, soon to be collection of the National Census, was the curator for the Buses who toured AIG Execs homes, (and let’s face it Mary, these Execs are not at fault for their bonuses, our Government failed to read the stimulus bill which allowed it)! Because I don’t think you know Mary, ACORN was the catalyst for Clinton allowing Sub Prime Mortgages, which led to this countries financial devestation. And because I think you are ill informed, and have an lack of knowledge, it was Carter who passed the Fair Housing Bill, (no problem), and Clinton who opened the door for bad debt. Bush just dropped the ball on monitoring the SEC and banking committee who is as corrupt as can be. Study you history before you blog.

          Mary, your uninformed. You like to spew the garbage you hear on TV rather than to educate yourself. Perhaps the above will give you something to look up and open your eyes to reality.

          This President is neither open nor honest. There is no transparancy and he is giving the entire Congress and Senate a pass on doing their jobs. . . Representing the American People who elected them! By rushing through every bill. . . .without even being read or debated! Do you realize that under the Stimilus Bill, there is an endless supply of money for Obama to put Police Power on our streets to govern the Citizens. All under his dictatorship and control, overriding State Laws? When Citizens finally begin to revolt against the endless erosion of their liberties under the Constitution and the Constitution itself, Obama Police Army will control, everyone and everything.

          Right now you, and many others are in the honeymoon stage of Obama. What you are unware of is all that is hastily being done to you, your money, your liberties and your freedom. Open your eyes, eliminate from your thinking who is President and just study what is being done and how it impacts you. You will be astounded!

        • RoBotech

          Hey Mary
          Wrong again madam (if you are a female, who knows on a blog).
          Just because Bush/Cheney did it, you think it’s OK for Obama to do the same?
          Are you 7 years old or just a hypocrite?
          VERY immature thinking.
          Wrong is wrong, and using that old Libtard excuse of “Lil’ Bush did it too/first” just shows that either your Parents were Missing In Action (MIA) and just plain buffoons. They for sure didn’t teach you to think for yourself.
          I realize that Liberals need the village Idiot Bush for a boogeyman, but Bush is GONE!
          It’s on Obama now, and he’s making things WORSE.
          He’s a Socialist first and a liar second.
          Yeah Bush started this Socialist crap with the bail out, but isn’t it funny how Obama and the other Dems supported that while blaming Bush for everything down to their kids cavities.
          For shucks sake, take some responsibility for what is happening TODAY in the real world, not in Wonderland.

        • Carolyn

          Mary, where did you get those Happy Pills you must be taking? The Demo. and Republicans have the same agenda but talk a little different so you think there’s a difference. Both work for aOne World Govt. and Obama is the one who has been put in place to bring that about.
          Bottomline- we the people all lose.
          Should the courts stop being partners in crime, time will reveal that Obama is an imposter. He can’t show his birth certificate least people know- he isn’t a natural born citizen. Truth doesn’t have to lie and there’s no end to the faces of liars! All those in Congress don’t dare for the Truth to be known because most of them are communist that ran on the popular tickets.
          You might not fool all the people all the time but this cover-up has done a good job.

        • http://comcast jow

          I find that most of those who want socialism have not been in the military. Those of us who have been have seen what happens when socialism is the mode of government. Infrastructure is a govt. thing along with education for obvious reasons. I have seen the health care that socialism brings to their population, not much unless you are very wealthy and those usually come to the US for treatment. The poor have no health care and many of them who die at a very young age. Food is a full time job to just obtain it. I cannot believe that so many people, mostly the young, want to replace our form of government with socialism. Is this because they want free handouts. It doesn’t work this way. If we can get more people on welfare, it will overload the system and redistribute the wealth. The only way this will end is, no one working and no one receiving much of anything. The population of N. Korea has decreased by in height by 6 INCHES. Why, food. What kind of life do these people live? If you look at what Obama is doing, he is beginning to share the wealth. Is this what you want.

        • Yvonne

          You, my dear, do not have a clue about what socialism is, or communism. I suggest that you make China your new home. Then you will know what communism is!!!

        • I am Informed too

          Mary, “Informed” is indeed informed. Study of the Bible will show you that in fact, Jesus was quite the “elitist.” He is adamant that He alone is the [only] Way, the [only] Truth, and the [only] Life. He must come first in the believer’s heart and mind. It is all about Him, His holiness, and His place as King. He provided the grace and mercy that allows those who take up His cross and follow Him to have freedom from sin and an eternal place to kneel at the throne and worship Him for the price He paid for that freedom and privilege.

          As of today, I live in a Country that was founded on these Judeo-Christian principles and where I am free to write this post and express my devotion to Christ. The day is coming – we’re already seeing hints of this with the current administration – where it will be said that “for the good of the nation and world peace” I must refrain from expressing such radical, narrow-minded views. Satan has been trying desparately to squelch the gospel of Christ for over 2,000 years, but he has not, nor will he ever be successful in doing so. That is the good news.

          The Bible warns that in the last days before Jesus’ second coming, the truth will be twisted – good will be called evil and evil will be called good. History has demonstrated time and time again the evils of socialism.

          Our forefathers feared that this day would come. They took every opportunity to warn future generations of what could happen by allowing the power of the federal government to get out of hand. Although they would be heart-broken to find us on the edge of socialism, it would be no great surprise.

          For those of us who have our hope in Jesus Christ, we can look to the Bible and look to the eastern sky for that time – as Informed said – where every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all. In Him we have true freedom and a peace that passes all human understanding.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          Mary, you are misinformed and so full of Bush hate, you have obviously passed your indoctrination of being brainwashed by ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN and MSNBC. It is amazing to me the power of the left wing liberal pacifist appeaser pants wetting democrat propaganda machine that they can openly hypnotize by repeating the same thing over and over and over, with no truth in it at all. So sad Mary that you have let their hate permeate into your soul like this. Bush saved your butt and theirs, after Bill Clinton fell asleep for 8 years and let these guys freely enter and roam the country and set up their shops. Bush and Cheney rousted them out, and we will be kept safe for a few more years, but 4 years of Obama and the democrats will probably long enough of sleeping at the wheel again, for these guys to set up shop, and blow something up about a year into the next administration, so that you and your hypnotized lot can blame it on whatever Republican is in office after 2012. It sure as hell isnt going to be a Democrat Mary, they have blown it big time, even losing a lot of their own. This guy is clueless, has no plan, no course of action, just blindly follows his parties lead, and it will come to a point, where they will blindly throw his ass under a bus to save their face, and the hypnotize like you will sit there and follow suit, blindly following the lies they tell you. Unreal.

        • Christine

          Mary, as far as Obama being an intelligent and honest man — Hog Wash!!
          He is a fox in wolf’s clothing and lie’s with a smile on his GQ face, and he is not the change this country needs.He is an arrogant man that want’s to control all he can. He is not concerned for your safety as an American citizen or mine. I resent that !
          And as far as Bush being the most un-intelligent president and the reason for this country’s debt because of the war. That’s Hog Wash as well. Obama has spent more in less than a year, calling it a stimulous package, for big Government! , then Bush spent in eight years for the war!!
          As far as Obama bringing back honor to this country, if you call shrugging off our allies and bowing to terrorists and harborer’s of terrorists, honorable, than you are trully Brain washed ! Our Honor has always been and we have memorial’s to prove it.
          I hear less and less about HomeLandSecurity and more about Bail Out’s. I would rather pay for American’s safety and security then I would for the Greed of Banker’s and CEO’s.
          WWJD?- he would defend his belief’s , protect his followers, and honor his father, even in death.
          WW Obama do? Apologize for America’s belief’s, put his follower’s in harm’s way, and blame our fore-father’s for everything up to this point, even in death- your’s and mine!

        • http://BobLivingstonAlternativeMedicine Michelle

          Mary, You are slightly confused, but… what can you expect from a brain dead libtard!

        • JC

          What money? Who’s money? Where’s all this damn money coming from?
          Oh yeah! Our pockets!!!
          You’ve obviosly been fooled into thinking that government actually produces something of value that it can give to us. It doesn’t…it’s a thief. And Obama’s spending OUR MONEY because Bush & Co. decided to rape us while making money on the cororate end is no excuse. Two wrongs still don’t make a right. The whole system is rotten to the core no matter who’s in office. The White House has been spineless since Wilson.

      • http://n/a No Name

        Each day it becomes more apparent that this split in the US will ultimately end in armed insurrection. The only question is; Will it be a civil war? Not likely. The rebels do not, nor will they have, the wherewithal to confront the oppressors.
        It’s more likely to resemble the IRA’s long struggle with the British occupiers.

        • keith

          B.S! a rebellion pure and simple,the patriots in the u.s numbers in the millions and all armed! we won’t go queitly! during the war of northern aggression the south killed some 340,000 invaders under lincoln who thought the war would last six months,little did they know it was to be a 5 yr bloodbath,obama is not much different than hitler and a insurrection is coming,you can only overtax and push your marxist idiology on a free people so much and the patriots will come out the woodwork! DOWN WITH SOCIALISM!!!!

          • JC

            Amen to that. Americans purchased 7 million firearms and over a billion rounds of ammunition in the last 3 months of 08 alone. That’s enough to completely re-arm the Chinese AND Indian armies…in the hands of freedom loving people.

    • Dora

      Frank, Obama was the MOST liberal man in Senate. I am praying he will make a very good president but only time will tell. We are commanded to pray for our leaders and I just hope he does not follow through with the liberal/socialist agenda he has indicated that he would do. We have a LOT of socialist in Congress – about 60 on the list that was pulled from Socialist Democrats of America before they took the membership list off the net. They also belong to the Progressive Caucus which is a communist organization.

      • janita florez

        OBAMA A GOOD PRESIDENT!!! WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? He is destroying eveything we Americans have worked for and compiled a laundry list of crimes he is comitting against the USA ………why else would Barry Seotoro change his name and cheated us by lying to us about his citizenship…………read more and educate yourself who this man REALLY is ………..there is alot you will learn that he used several social security numbers ………..it is at the SUPREME COURT and IS INVESTIGATED NOW PLEASE READ THIS IS REAL ……..WE DO NOT KNOW WHO OBAMA IS READ THE DOCUMENTS………defendourfreedom.com AND THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.

        • http://BobLivingstonAlternativeMedicine Michelle

          You go janita florez!
          You are absolutely correct.

      • http://comcast jow

        You obviously voted for Obama because you should have realized that socialism is his mode. He doesn’t believe in prayer so don’t waste them on him. Pray for your parents and friends your prayers will be wasted because he is probably a atheist. He is totally against Christianity which this country was founded on.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          Amen. It is an afront to his muslim faith. Ask George Stephanopolous.

        • Jacob

          jow, Obama is not the least against christianity, judaism or any religion. He is trying to get them to hold nothing against each other. That is quite a tough task if you ask me. And the american indians were not christians, they were here long before Columbus discovered America. There is a good chance that Columbus may have been jewish, for he left spain in 1492, the same year all jews were kicked out of Spain. And the Pilgrims that landed in Plymouth MA came here for freedom of religion. NOT for making a christian country. Don’t forget in the 15th , 16th , 17th , and most of the 18th centuries the christians were still cleansing the world of anyone who would not accept christianity. They cleansed almost 100% of all the people living in Europe who did not accept their religion and they almost cleansed the western hemisphere of the american indians. Christianity at this time was just like what the Islamic extremists are like today. Certainly not a very peaceful religion. So this country was not founded to be a christian country. It was founded for freedom of religion. So quit trying to rewrite history.

        • Lena

          I agree with you Jacob. The only reason America would ever have been founded by Christianity is because you died if you weren’t Christian. You died a horrible death if they thought you weren’t Christian. Say you didn’t go to Church or deciced you didn’t feel like eating pork… yep, you died. So really Christianity is only around still because everyone else was scared off or wiped out by them. Read up on the Inquisition. Those are your ancestors… sounded like real great people! Not to mention (okay I’ll mention it) in England around the 16th century they kept switching the religion from Catholic to Protestant… even though the two religions are quite similar. But if you didn’t convert guess what happened?… You died! The history of Europe is a sad story when it comes to religion. People fled that place to come to a new land with new beginnings but they didn’t get very far.

    • David Floyd

      Frank,

      Since I have a vocation, I earn my money. I take no money from the government except MY tax refund. Any tax refund was MY money to start with, I just overpaid MY tax obligation. Therefore, because I earned MY money, I am entitled to spend MY money as I see fit; I do NOT need a government crone telling me what to do with MY money.

      I give freely to my church, and freely support various charities as I see fit to support. I support the Rotary, The Exchange Club, Salvation Army (great group) and the Disabled American Veterans to name a few.

      If YOU choose to give YOUR hard earned (or ill-gotten) gains to a government crone that will spend YOUR money in a manner inconsistent with YOUR beliefs, go ahead, it is YOUR decision to make- and right to make for now.

      Re-distribution of income will not work, has never worked, will never work.

      If you travel to the Smokey Mountains, there are signs posted everywhere that say “DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!”. The reason is 2 fold; 1) you create an unsafe environment for the bear and people, as the bear will come to associate people with food, which could incite a bear attack unsuspecting people, thus causing the demise of the bear, and most importantly 2) you rob the bear of their natural instinct to forage to survive and it’s natural aversion contact with people.

      Perhaps we need to consider the lessons of nature and the bear. 2 males attempting to mate can not- and will never make a baby, feeding bears is hazardous to your and the bears health, socialism is hazardous to US survival.

      I will join ANYONE in praying for the Prez regardless of who he is, after all God works miracles, he topples or builds governments as He sees fit. And there is hope NObama will make some good decisions- although it would appear to be against his grain to make conservative ones.

      Throughout history, great nations are created by conservative ideas, only to be eventually destroyed by liberalism’s “anything goes” and “there is no God” teachings.

      • Jacob

        Well in this case today our great nation has been destroyed by conservative ideas. To cut taxes and increase spending is their goal and makes no sense. We went from having a surplus of money under the democrats in the white house in the 90′s to now having a $56 trillion debt created under the conservatives in the white house these last 8 years. Are you saying that $56 trillion debt makes us a great nation? How do you propose to get rid of it, since obviously you don’t want to pay taxes. You can talk all you want, but if you expect our gov’t to have money and provide protection for our country, education for our country and roads and public transportation for our country you haven’t explained how you expect them to get the money.
        With a balance of $56 trillion in debt your ideas really aren’t working very well. So what do you propose? Private military? just dirt roads? Maybe going back to horse and buggy? Think bats could pull us in parachutes? Private education only for our kids, that we all will have to pay for unless we want our kids to be illiterate and uneducated. You can complain all you want about taxes and liberals, but you sure don’t seem to have any solution that works.

        • Anne

          Jacob, just how old are you and where do you get your information from? First off, YES, Clinton left us with a surplus when he left office. But how quickly you forgot: 9/11 (which was being plotted during both Clinton’s terms) cost us dearly, how much do you think that put us into debt, the whole time Sen.Hillary Clinton kept going on TV asking George Bush for MORE MONEY for NY? Next came the war in Iraq, which was voted unanimously by both Dems & Repubs, only like John Kerry’s memory, he voted FOR the war before he was against it, and the costs of war are always staggering, both in human lives lost and also in the moneys spent. Were we supposed to consider 9/11 another criminal act the way Bill Clinton did in ’93? Next came hurricane KATRINA, the largest natural disaster that this country ever faced, which costs still keep rising from (people still living in hotels) also the levies being reinforced and/or rebuilt to withstand the next category 4 or 5 storm. And up till Obama’s WH win, we never before had all three branches of government ruled by the same party. The very reason so much legislation is being made law before reading what they’re passing is because for the first time, Dems control both houses AND the White House, therefore (like Nancy Pelosi says) we won and we can do whatever we want to! Whatever happened to ‘We the people…’ I absolutely HATE IT when ignorant persons such as yourself, Jacob, continue to perpetrate the LIE that Bush went on a spending spree….. and BTW, his last two years both houses were Dem.

        • Jacob

          Anne, you sent me this message(my reply follows):<<Anne Reply:
          March 29th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

          Jacob, just how old are you and where do you get your information from? First off, YES, Clinton left us with a surplus when he left office. But how quickly you forgot: 9/11 (which was being plotted during both Clinton’s terms) cost us dearly, how much do you think that put us into debt, the whole time Sen.Hillary Clinton kept going on TV asking George Bush for MORE MONEY for NY? Next came the war in Iraq, which was voted unanimously by both Dems & Repubs, only like John Kerry’s memory, he voted FOR the war before he was against it, and the costs of war are always staggering, both in human lives lost and also in the moneys spent. Were we supposed to consider 9/11 another criminal act the way Bill Clinton did in ‘93? Next came hurricane KATRINA, the largest natural disaster that this country ever faced, which costs still keep rising from (people still living in hotels) also the levies being reinforced and/or rebuilt to withstand the next category 4 or 5 storm. And up till Obama’s WH win, we never before had all three branches of government ruled by the same party. The very reason so much legislation is being made law before reading what they’re passing is because for the first time, Dems control both houses AND the White House, therefore (like Nancy Pelosi says) we won and we can do whatever we want to! Whatever happened to ‘We the people…’ I absolutely HATE IT when ignorant persons such as yourself, Jacob, continue to perpetrate the LIE that Bush went on a spending spree….. and BTW, his last two years both houses were Dem.>>
          MY REPLY:
          Anne, you asked my age: in less than a month I’ll be 50.
          GW was warned many times about threats leading to 9/11 and he did nothing but spend time riding horses in Texas and reading books to kindergarden classes. That did nothing to keep it from happening. As president, regardless of what happened when Clinton was in the white house, GW failed to prevent 9/11 from happening through his lack of effort. The same with Cheney. Even Reagan ended the cold war before any disasters and with no battles despite any rise in the cold war during Jimmy Carter’s term in the white house. Well, once we went to war, the war should have been just in Afghanistan, and where are these WMD”s that was why GW and Cheney said we should focus on Iraq instead.
          Their lies convinced many people in congress to approve of going to war in Iraq(but not Obama, and I’m glad that Kerry changed his mind when he saw the truth). GW and Cheney should now be in international courthouse for their dishonesty due to their desire for their companies they invested in to bring them great profits as one of the main reasons they wanted war in Iraq, as well as the desire to fight personal enemies of the Bushes.. I’m glad to see that some of the people on GW’s staff might be in the international courthouse shortly. Then if we are fighting wars in two countries, as well as having to deal with Katrina, it is the responsibility of the white house and congress to meet our expenses. You don’t cut taxes when our expenses are rising. Especially taxes for the wealthiest.
          Clinton met all our expenses including the military expenses we had during his term as well as for expenses for the hurricanes in Florida in the ’90′s, and he had a surplus. And don’t forget what happened to Yugoslavia when he was in the white house. Our army fought there for awhile, and he knew when to withdraw. Is anyone still living in hotels in FL from Hurricane Andrew? Any president and any party should never put us in debt like GW did. GW did go on a spending spree, for he spent far more than he could acquire the money for. Sorry if you don’t like it but that is a fact. Otherwise we woudn’t be in debt right now for around $56 trillion. The democrats didn’t control more than 60% of congress even those last two years of the GW/Cheney dynasty. So GW just vetoed almost everything they tried to do. That makes him even more responsible. Not only did our expenses rise, the cost of living rose faster than ever, and the wealthy just got tax cuts after tax cuts. Even I got money back, and I’m not wealthy. I would have preferred to use it for helping our country but instead I donated that money to places that needed it. Is that what Cheney did with his tax returns? Cheney only paid a little over 10% of his income in taxes. IS that right when our country is $56 trillion in debt due to his decisions? He should be paying closer to 40-50% of his income in taxes due to his decisions being failures and his great wealth. Republicans wanted to cut our taxes and cut our spending. GW cut our taxes and increased our spending. That shouldn’t have even been a choice. How can anyone in congress approve of it? But the Republicans did and it passed in Congress. It is really to bad the democrats couldn’t get a 60% majority until Obama made it to the white house. I hope their majority now lasts forever or we’ll be back in debt like we were under both president Bushes. Why couldn’t GW solve the problems before 9/11? Then maybe his tax cuts could have been more acceptable. Now it is up to the democrats to solve the horrible mess GW and Cheney made with our enormous debts, our high unemployment, and our two failing wars, as well as troubles with N. Korea and in the middle east and more. I have far more confidence that something good can be accomplished now with Obama and democrats in control. But just how much in 4 years I’m not sure.

        • http://caninecoachmvp.com Alice

          Jacob,
          If you and the others are REALLY looking for an answer, check into HR 25.
          This bill will allow all wage earners to take home their whole paycheck, and give every American household about $200 per person per month to pay taxes on the necessities of life. It taxes equally the illegal immigrant, the tourist, and the rich, while untaxing the poor. It provides a “zero tax” umbrella for corporations that want to build in America and hire American workers. It untaxes education, savings, investment, inheritance, capital gains, and death.

          And if you think that it “would never work”, it actually served our country for the first 124 years of existence, made Texas the 3rd largest economy in the world in 2006, and made Florida the 10th largest in the same year. Think what that growth would mean today! http://www.govtrack.us

        • http://foxnews uthink

          Jacob,
          NO I want my money to go to research as to WHY PIGS STINK…….
          Just one of the many earmarks we are paying for…….

          Have you noticed how many new banks are being built. In a 10 mile radius from my home there have been over 25 in the last 4 months.
          Did you forget 911 was extremely costly to millions of Americans,
          Did you forget the cost of the Katrina
          Did you forget the 5 fires of California
          Did you forget the cost of the declared natural disasters in the mid west

          These issues were part of our debt sure along with the IRAQ war. But nothing compared to the choices these idiots are making now……..

          Would you sign something you haven’t read?
          We have NO choice in the matter. To pay for this crap

          $2.2 MILLION FOR THE CENTER FOR GRAPE GENETICS
          $143,000 FOR MANHATTAN’S AMERICAN BALLET THEATRE
          $500,000 FOR A SENATE PROGRAM TO DEFRAY THE COST OF MASS-MAILING POSTCARDS TO CONSTITUENTS
          $200,000 FOR A “TATTOO REMOVAL VIOLENCE PREVENTION OUTREACH PROGRAM”
          $5.8 MILLION FOR THE “TED KENNEDY INSTITUTE FOR THE SENATE
          SOME UNGODLY AMOUNT ON THE STUDY OF FIELD MICE.
          in this time where housing is in a tale spin we are spending 710 billion and another 5 billion soon to come WHAT A WAIST OF OUR MONEY.

          The top 10% of taxpayers pay 70% of the taxes. But that will soon change under the Obama power surge. MORE Taxes will be even a bigger part of the problem, soon surcharges will be on everything you buy and do. Like your taxes on your cell phone……. So ultimately this hurts the lower income folks along with the folks that make the big money, and provides employment for us little guys.

          What happens when employers decide that owning a company is to costly and to restricted – they just close up shop. That was what happened to me. Now I’m unemployed. I Must sell my home… this is another issue…
          THE HOUSING ISSUE – We were super deceived there…..
          Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Franklin Raines & Maxine Waters all are responsible for the housing crisis. NO ONE Else….
          Fannie Mae designed programs for folks who could not afford homes, illegal immigrants who didn’t even have a SS number or credit established. They forced Lenders to peddle these programs or be fined. The media covered this up. The public doesn’t know the facts or who to blame.
          My Property value is dropping and now my equity and retirement is gone out of my home……

          So you see there is more to your story that what you are telling. Don’t try to mislead us. We’ve already been there….

        • Gerald DeMario

          Jacob,YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB A##

        • keith

          let the cry be……..
          IMPEACH OBAMA,DOWN WITH SOCIALISM!!!!!!

        • Jacob

          Now thank you very much for your comments keith and Gerald. You’ve proven my point. saying “let the cry be……IMPEACH OBAMA,DOWN WITH SOCIALISM” and “Jacob,YOU ARE TRULY A DUMB A##” offer no alternative solutions. You just want the same stupid things that our greedy conservative citizens have been been saying and asking for, that has driven our country almost out of existence. When you can stop just posting stupid insulting comments and actually post a solution that would solve our probems in an intellectual way, then your comments can be appreciated and have some value. So far I’ve seen none of that. Certainly every attempt to lower taxes that was passed in Congress has hurt us terribly by making our national debts shoot up like firecrackers.

          • JC

            Property rights. Individual Liberty. Personal responsibility.
            These are American traits and values, anything look familiar to you Jacob? I know its hard to see past the smoke and mirrors of Government influence, but give it a try.

        • Steve R

          Jacob, with your age, should u not be more able to see the truth and not drink all the cool aid given to u by “main stream media”. the word idiot comes to mind, but I shouldn’t regress to name calling, sorry.
          It is sad to see this country that WAS dedicated to God by the planting of a Cross @ Va. Beach, VA. going against the founders intents. The end days do rapidly approach.

        • Lena

          I say we get rid of the monetary system altogether. After all, money isn’t money at all, it is just debt. Debt created out of thin air, with no way of paying back the interest. Look into films like Zeitgeist. It exposes how the Federal Reserve (the dudes who make the money) are a privately owned corporation. It also tells the tale of how they snuck their way into the system and are now exploiting everyone and determining when people will be in a depression and when they won’t. Real interesting stuff, but there probably isn’t much we can do about it but spread the word. Check it out! It is all available to everyone online.

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Amen brother, Amen. I tithe 10 percent of each and every check. I freely give to the local Rescue Mission here. I support Make-A-Wish, and other charities that I have researched to be true charities. I do not, I repeat, I do not need the government, whether it be local, state, or federal, to take my money and give it to whom they deem worth to receive it, because they are not good stewards of their money, let alone my money. We are called on by God to be good stewards of the wealth He has given us. Our government is so corrupted and defiled with their handling of money, that Satan squeals with delight at the way they spend it. I do not need them taking my money and giving it to some lazy person that could work for it like I do, but refuses to because the government gives him a weekly handout. And there are thousands of them that do this. And they never will amount to anything, because the govenment is their crutch, their enabler. Its like the alcoholic whose wife calls in that he is sick or hurt, to cover for him being drunk. He isnt going to get better, because she is his crutch, his enabler. It just gets worse. These people living off the government wont get better until their purse strings get cut. Giving these handouts has broken their spirit, and they are content to collect this handout the rest of their lives, and thats so sad. I dont want my money going there, sorry. Its not right. The government really wants to to something about it, take some of that huge pension they get for serving one term, and defer half of it into the government hand out fund, then they can give their money away and quench their little left wing pacifist appeasing pants wetting thirst, and they can be happy. Leave my money alone, Ill be a good steward of it, thank you very much.

        • Jacob

          Mark, you’re not offering any solutions, just complaints. Sorry. I say to get rid of the poor we must get rid of the richest. there must be a balance on both sides. Right now more and more people are unemployed. Because the rich stopped employing them and instead hired people in India and china so they could get richer. Take your head out of the sand, Clinton got rid of welfare 12 to15 years ago. Sorry you will have to find something else to sob over. With no taxes we cannot be a united states. We no longer have families. Women just seem to have sex, get a child, divorce and try to live on child support together with some other job they can get with the kids in day care all day. Many men would like to have the kids too and the women don’t let them even see them. Except maybe with a police officer following them. I guess this is following the teaching of the bible?! In the bible it teaches us to help others and share. You don’t seem to follow that. And Steven R, our country was not dedictated to GOD via christianity. People came here for freedom of religion whatever religion that is. And christianity certainly isn’t mine. How can you believe in a religion that for 1750 years murdered anyone who wouldn’t accept their religion and still says that anyone who doesn’t accept them is going to hell when they die, and then this country you claim to be a christian country well we’re falling faster than ever due to the greed of everyone in this country. Don’t forget “thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies , thou anointest my head with oil, and my cup runneth over” well steven and Mark, have you prepared a table for all your enemies, like those you think still live on welfare and you think that that is all your taxes support? Have you anointed your head with oil and surrendered that none of us can can control the entire world, or make the entire world be cloned copies of ourselves? we must accept that everyone in this world is different and we must accept these differences, and accept that we are not perfect either.
          Our goals should be to work on ourselves and not others. Just like that muslim Dr. m Zuhdi Jasser said,(and no I”m not muslim either) and he worked for our white house as a medical doctor and before that for our miltary, the problem is that religion is supposed to be between ourselves and GOD. We are supposed to be looking to him for guidance. When we want to use religion for power. sorry, but that is not what religion is for, and GOD is no longer by our side. I guess then we have Satan next to us trying to fool us. So accept whatever you believe for your own good and let others do the same. Thomas Jefferson said the same thing. Here read this
          http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131645
          Now instead of complaining. Let me hear your solutions as to how we can support all the things in this country that our gov’t pays for with no taxes. I’m waiting to hear. Otherwise accept that like the countries in many parts of the world that are doing better than us have accepted we must be united and support the country we live in and surrender that we cannot control how every penny we give them is spent in any way besides who we vote for.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          In response to Jacob, I cant argue with him. His problems are deeper than I can help. When someone denies the truth this bad, I cant help them, only Jesus can. The so called rich are the only ones that employ what you call the poor. Most the poor we have unemployed on the streets as homeless poor, have taken steps to make themselves that way. Many are younger and more able bodied than myself, but they choose to do drugs, drink alcohol to excess and smoke cigarettes, and somehow they have money to do this things. Amazing to me. Your assinine answer to get rid of the rich, would be a monumental disaster to this country, as they pay 85 percent of the taxes and hire all the workers. The reason they are going to Mexico and China is because of Bill Clinton and his NAFTA thing where he made millions. He is to blame if you want a reason why companies go to Mexico. We are doing just fine here, and you seem to be the complainer. We are still the greatest country in the world, and will be until we totally dump God to the side, which is the way we are heading. Get over yourself.

    • Heavy Metal

      Hey Frank
      I am a low income bottom feeder, so to speak. I have been impoverished most of my life. Yet thanks to capitolism I rose above. I now own my own house and acreage . So don’t you dare lump yourself in with ordinary people. If you really want to know how to solve most of your problems look in the mirror.
      Weak minded socialist lowbrows such as yourself are the very reason Obama won. I wonder, what will you do when Obama doesn’t mail you that 1000.00 check he promised you to get you off your duff to vote.
      I have had it with you whinny little freaks.
      The good lord helps those who help themselves.

      • http://www.nikken.com/judyandy Judy

        Amen.

      • Melanie

        Not to start a big discussion about what the Lord did and did not say, but he never did say He helps those who help themselves. He helps those who cannot help themselves which is all of us because any good we do comes from Him first. The Biblet does say if a man does not work he does not eat which is the exact opposite of the way things are going now, it also says we (not the government0 are to help the widows and the orphans. Our problem is a government that is too big and too intrusive and thinks that they know everything and a better way to do it.

        • Heavy Metal

          I am not sure if you are agreeing with the intent of my letter or trying to ague. But here is a little FACT you should know. The bible you quote is a bastardized version of the bible written for a corrupt English king who wanted to further his influence, social control, and power . Check your history.
          Not to mention men wrote the Bible and men are inherently flawed. There fore, the bible written by men is inherently flawed.
          Back to the matter at hand if you do not work you do not eat. Gee whiz it would seem the bible is saying The Lord says, if you work I will provide for you.
          No? or the good lord proivides for those whom provide for themselves .

        • Informed

          The Bible says a man shall eat by the sweat of his brow. Don’t argue about how it is stated by each other. Christians don’t talk to each other like that. Heavy Metal does have it right. Just stated it different, same meaning.

      • http://DNA Buddy

        Esteem “Heavy Metal”

        Although I agree with most of your comments, the point about low brow socialists wining the election for Obama seems misplaced. There are a lot of indications that current voters tend to vote against, not for. So rather than voting for Obama, his election was what was left over after counting the negative votes on Bush and his follow-on candidate.

        I voted for no one because whole charade was (in my opinion) a waste of time. I just wasn’t interested in signing into a contract where I would agree with whatever result would have been forthcoming. That’s because the results didn’t look very promising then and look even less promising now.

        • Lilah

          Buddy,

          Why are you even voicing an opinion if you did not care enough for our country to vote? You should be ashamed.

          • JC

            Lilah, voting has become a complete waste of time and effort. Have you not caught on yet? It doesn’t matter one iota who you vote for…BOTH parties work for the Fed. BOTH parties are taking us to socialism (slavery). BOTH parties want you to think your vote actually makes a difference…it doesn’t. Try and look past the indoctrination you recieved courtesy of the Federal Government, By Law! And see the big picture.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          Then the bad shit they are doing is your fault, and those like you that didnt take the time to get educated and see what these left wing liberal pacifist appeasers are dangerous to the well being of this country. I agree, shame on you. Since you didnt vote, you dont have the right to praise or to be digusted. Shame on you for shirking your American right, and for not seeing the difference between right and wrong, good and evil.

        • keith

          YOU DID’NT VOTE??? WHY THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN HERE?
          JUST VOTE IN 2010!!!!!!

          • JC

            Vote for who Keith? The Red Socialist or the Blue Socialist?
            Folks what we need is “Administration of Statesmen” and professional/ accountable managers…not elected Politicians with an entrenched bureaucracy. Politicians look out for their own interests and couldn’t really care less about us. That, and they are completely unnaccountable. The fact that we are silly enough to keep “voting” for them must have them laughing all the way to the bank. I’d rather live under a managerial administration than a “government”. I don’t need to be “governed” and neither do you.

    • Chris

      What the hell is that supposed to mean?? Haven’t you ever studied the history of the United States? We all here have the RIGHT to persue happiness. It’s not a birth right! We earn happiness through hard work and good decisions we make in our lives. So if someone blows their life on partying and one bad decision after another and doesn’t want to even learn to do things for themselves; it’s up to those whom sacrificed and worked their fingers till they blead just to support a bunch of lame asses who think being in this country should allow them all the things a rich person has??? Are you out of your mind??? First off, how did the rich person get rich in the first place? He didn’t get rich off the poor peoples backs. If anything, he gave the poor man a job so he wouldn’t be poor anymore. Without the rich investing their money in businesses around the world there wouldn’t be any work for anyone to make a living. The rich got rich by thinking outside the box, they studied and worked and dedicated themselves to the idea of success through a possitive metal attitude and applied those principals to all facets of their lives and FOLLOWED THROUGH with their plans! (more than what I can say for most everyone) This country was founded on some very simple rules. Success through the people. Business moxi, smart decisions, planning, and the ability to grow. Now they are the bad guys because they didn’t GIVE you ALL OF THEIR PIE!!??; for the simple fact that you’re lazy and don’t want to move forward with your own lives INTELEGENTLY??? So all of you socialist dumb asses out there are just lazy people who just want to sit home and collect a government check and do your drugs without any accountablility or responsibility. Go to Europe where you belong.

      • ed

        ed,,,,well said

      • http://www.nikken.com/judyandy Judy

        Definitely and wish the socialist freaks would go back to Europe and leave our country alone.

      • Gina

        Chris,

        I LOVE your reply. Here’s is a brief list of the Millionaires in the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives. If anybody thinks either party truly wants to help the people of the United States, think again. Not one of them want to lose their positions because the money funnel will stop.

        78-year old Senator Arlen Specter was honest, very uncharacteristically for a politician, about his reason for recently switching from the Republican to the Democratic Party: He thought he would have a better chance to be reelected as a Democrat than a Republican because he was lagging in current polls and knew he would lose the seat he has held for decades. He couldn’t care less about the Republican constituency that has donated to his campaigns and voted for him for decades, he just wants to have another term in the Senate.

        These politicians are so out of touch with the American people it is a joke, and very few of them have anyone interests at heart except their own on the election day where their seats in Congress are on the line.

        40 millionaires in US Senate

        At least 40 of the 100 US senators are millionaires, some many times over, according to financial disclosure filings in mid-2008. Republicans on the list only outnumbered Democrats by a narrow margin of 22 to 18. However, Democratic senators hold the top five spots on the list and eight of the top ten, according to an analysis of the forms by CNN (a chronically Liberal news outlet).

        These financial disclosures underscore the ever-widening income/net worth gap between the average American and those who claim to represent them in government. Even those congressmen who report a relatively modest net worth are pulling down a salary of $154,700, with leadership positions paying $171,900 annually and all of this for a couple of days a week for about 40 weeks a year.

        Heading the list is the Massachusetts Democrat and presidential candidate John Kerry, with an estimated net worth of between $164 million and $211 million. He reports holdings in 75 mutual funds, along with two held jointly with his wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry, heiress to the Heinz food company fortune. Assets that she owns independently, which other sources estimate at hundreds of millions more, are not required to be included.

        Second on the list, at a minimum of $111 million, is Democrat Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, who sold a chain of grocery and department stores (Kohl’s) before going into politics. He currently owns the Milwaukee Bucks professional basketball team.

        Next are Democratic senators John J. Rockefeller of West Virginia at $81.6 million, former Wall Street executive Jon Corzine of New Jersey at $71 million and California’s Democrat Dianne Feinstein, who is married to financier Richard Blum, at $26.3 million (her husband’s money does not need to be included, but it is hundreds of millions).

        The two Republicans in the top ten are banking heir Peter Fitzgerald of Illinois at $26.1 million and Bill Frist of Tennessee at $15.1 million. Frist’s family founded HCA, which has become the largest for-profit hospital chain in the country, with annual revenues of nearly $20 billion last year. Frist reported blind trusts valued at between $6.5 million and $31 million.

        Two other Democratic candidates for the presidency are high on the list. At ninth, North Carolina’s John Edwards reported a net worth ranging from $12.8 million to $60 million; at twelfth, Florida’s Bob Graham reported a range of from $7.7 million to $31.6 million. Before turning politician, Edwards made millions as a trial lawyer who won some of the largest jury awards in the history of North Carolina. Graham and his brothers developed family farmland near Miami Lakes into valuable suburban real estate

        The vagueness of the Congressional disclosure requirements conceals many millions of dollars of assets and income. Specific items are reported in broad categories, such as from $1 million to $5 million. In addition, the value of a primary residence—which in some cases may exceed $1 million by itself—need not be reported at all.

        Thus, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s stated (disclosable) net worth could be as low as $352,000, or it could be as high as $3.8 million. Since her minimum is below $1 million, she is not counted among the 40 millionaires. This, in spite of the fact that her husband former president Bill Clinton took in $9.5 million last year for speaking appearances and that she had received $4 million of the $8 million advance on her recently released book, Living History.

        Another prominent Democrat, presidential candidate Joseph Lieberman, is not counted for the same reason, even though he reported a possible worth of up to $1.8 million.

        A complete and precise financial disclosure would no doubt push the percentage of senators who are millionaires to well over half of the Senate.

        There are also dozens if not hundreds of millionaires among the 435 members of the US House of Representatives.

        One of the most prominent is Nancy Pelosi, currently Speaker of the House, who listed assets of up to $92 million held jointly with her businessman husband Paul (CB Richard Ellis Real Estate Company Founder). They include two vineyards, one valued between $5 million and $25 million and the other valued between $1 million and $5 million, and a stake in a restaurant chain worth as much as $25 million. They also own three pieces of prime San Francisco real estate—one being their personal dwelling in the posh Pacific Heights neighborhood—each valued at up to $5 million. Rounding out their real estate holdings are two mountain townhouses and a share in a resort, worth up to $11 million combined.

        One House millionaire, Wisconsin Republican James Sensenbrenner, who chairs the Judiciary Committee, reported his net worth down to the penny at $9,315,491.13. The heir to a paper manufacturing fortune, he holds two stocks—Kleenex manufacturer Kimberley Clark and pharmaceutical giant Pfizer—valued at between $500,000 and $1 million, along with three others in the range of $250,000 to $500,000 apiece.

        Representative John Dingell, Democrat of Michigan and the longest-serving member of the House, listed 37 mutual funds owned alone or with his wife Debbie. She works as an executive for General Motors, and his disclosure form lists her as owning GM stock options worth between $1 million and $5 million as well as holding between $500,000 and $1 million in a GM savings-stock purchase program, which have obviously lost value, but she is a multi-millionare in her own right.

        While the aggregate number of US House millionaires has not been reported in the media, a survey by the San Francisco Chronicle tallied

        at least 8 of the 12 representatives
        from the San Francisco Bay area
        falling into the millionaire
        category

        The lone Republican elected from the area was not included among the millionaires because he obtained an extension for filing his financial report.

        This social layer of millionaires and near-millionaires in the US House and Senate pushed through the Bush administration’s massive tax cut for the rich, while somehow dropping the much touted per-child tax credit for families with incomes less than $20,000. Both Houses recently also approved a “reform” of Medicare that in reality guarantees no prescription drug benefits for American seniors. These millionaires and near-millionaires also rammed through without reading, the recent “stimulus” (aka: ‘spending’) bill and have plans for pushing through legislation momentarily for trillions and trillions of the hard-working American tax dollars.

        Stop the madness before out country is plunged into bankruptcy and Socialism. Cry out and let your elected officials know you will vote them out at the next election if they do not protect you and the rest of the Americans in this country.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          Well I have to take one exception here, what you refered to as Bush massive tax cut for the rich. My company was able to hire 35 new workers due to this tax cut, and now that it is going to be rescinded, along with business slowing down because no one wants to build because they know the democrat tax monsters are in town, weve now laid of 25 of these guys. As these tax cuts are rescinded as obama has planned, millions around the country are losing their jobs. He is creating jobs, in Washington expanded government that we all get to pay for, but is losing jobs by the thousands everywhere else, which are now totalling in the millions. Ever had a poor man give you a job? Didnt think so. Do you know who pays 80 percent or more of the taxes in this country? Yep, those that you call rich and want to punish. I myself am a so called middle class, making 50 grand year before taxes. I dont want the rich taxed, they pay enough. Put it this way. A local man here owned a big Chevy dealership, and amassed millions of dollars. Nice guy, gave to the community, gave to charities all the time. He died this year. The government make his estate pay a death tax of over 4 million dollars. Why? Its bullcrap. He worked all his life, paid taxes, paid hundreds of employees who paid taxes, paid millions in sales taxes, now you tax him for dying because he did a good job as a businessman? Not right. Big business pay the taxes that make this country go. They are getting tired of it, and as a result more and more are fleeing to Mexico, Canada, Latin America, South America, and now China. Soon, if we dont stop this senseless taxation on them, who is going to be left to pay the taxes? Yep, thats right, you and I. Besides that, I get sick and tired of hearing the democrat propaganda machine label the republicans as rich and the democrats as the poor, when there are far more rich democrats that republicans around. Come on, the dems own ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN and MSNBC, and many many other huge national business’s. Dont believe what they tell you. They are not for the poor. They are the rich bastards.

      • MAC

        DITTO to every word! I have never known anyone receiving a welfare check creating a job for others…except in the government which we pay for with our hard work…

        • JC

          Yep! Pretty much everyone who works for the government is a welfare recipient with a desk…a sycophant…a leach…

      • Mickey Steib

        You have been given so much by those who are directly related to our technical advances, by those who gave their lives in battle, by those who are dedicated to their profession for so many non materialistic reasons, by those who support the infrastructure, the protection, the communication and education, and the study so necessary to warn us of the many risks of our ways.

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Exactly. These modern day left wing liberal pacifist appeasing pants wetters do not want to award excellence, they want everyone to be mediocre. You cant award a kid for excelling anymore, because it makes the others “feel bad”. You cant give a kid an “F” in school, even though he is failing, because “it makes him feel bad”. What the hell is this? If you succeed, you rise, and if you fail, you fall. Theyve even got kids playing sports now where they dont keep score, because if one team wins it makes the other team feel bad that they lost. What? What the hell? Are you liberals on some kind of new drugs or what? This is just unbelieveable and totally unacceptable. One must be rewarded for succeeding. Maybe thats why the lefties want to stop capitalism in this country, because they just cant stand to see success, because it makes them feel bad because they werent good enough to do it. So they want socialism, where they are in charge and get everything that they dont deserve or work for, then take us all and keep us at a level of mediocrity, where we are all dependant on them. If you left wing liberal common people want this, keep voting for them, because its coming. But the rest of us who want to advance on our own merits, well, we will fight them. Pacifism and Appeasing is a sure fire road to defeat, been proven over and over. Socialism fails, been proven over and over. If you lefties like it so much, move the hell to Russia or Cuba ok? Just go for it.

    • http://personalLiberty Dora

      Fox is a fair and balance News Cable. You here at Fox was no one else will report. The rest of the news station are very liberal and will tell you what they want you to know.By being fair they bring both side of the story

      • Mickey Steib

        Fox does not give the impression of presenting news in a way that encourages nor reflects much study or thought. They are often very entertaining with their alarming news and exciting shows. However, Fox does not impress me as being particularly unbiased nor balanced.

        The Christian Science Monitor has a well founded reputation.

        • Ginger

          So you think that MSNBC, ABC and CBS deliver the news in an unbiased and balanced, truthful manner? At least Fox tries to present the issues and not just bias media opinions.

        • http://donthaveone Mark

          I dont know what your watching, but Fox is the only News channel where I can actually hear a report, and be left to make my own opinion about it. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC are all part of the democratic propaganda machine that got Obama elected, by constant bashing of Bush and the repubs, and for falsely, and I do mean falsely report on the war in Iraq. It would piss me off when I would see what they reported and said, and presented it as we were losing the war, and just killing innocents, but yet I would be in daily e-mails with guys ACTUALLY OVER THERE, and the story was totally different. Our service men and women were appalled at what our news channels listed above were reporting. Lies meant to turn the young and uneducated against Bush the republicans, presenting them as a bunch of war mongers, and I tell you what, day in and day out of this thing over all these years worked. It got the uneducated and young to vote in a person that will not even give us the respect to prove he is a citizen, a man who says were not a Christian nation, a man who kisses the butt of our enemies and makes us a laughing stock to the world. Propaganda works, and the democrats are the masters of it, and when you own the networks, they have a lot of power in lying to the masses, and presenting it as truth. Only Fox news presented any truths that I have seen on TV in the last 5 years, and thats sad.

      • keith

        yeah right! and rain is dry and the sky purple.you have to research things on your own and sort the facts out for YOURSELF.don’t be spoonfed a bunch of bovine manure! did you look up that so called stimulas bill? it was available on the net.people would rather beleive crap than get off their butts and put forth the effort to LEARN and research stuff out on their own and bitch about stuff they’re only indoctrinated about cause they got it from one source.the utter stupidity of that amazes me!

    • Brian

      If Obama really wants to help America get more jobs then there is a subject matter I believe really needs to get heard more in America to help provide more jobs and a better future! I am concerned with our nation’s future with what Obama is doing with spending Trillions of dollars for ridiculous causes like $2,000,000 to study pig odor and millions spent for politicians to have their own personal expensive cars and Golf carts to use at tax payer’s expense, for personal use. What ever happened to being patriotic? That seems to be “politically incorrect” these days.
      In other countries they defend their people by helping defend jobs. This is often done from what I’ve seen where a company in another country wants to import their products to another nation but the other nation taxes the imports to the point that it is no longer profitable to import the merchandise and instead they are lead to manufacture the products in the country they are trying to sell their products to, thus providing more jobs for the people of that nation. Seems like a good plan that works for them. Why aren’t our politicians patriotic like this?
      Instead we mostly see every product made in China , Asia, etc for practicly slave labor! I heard recently that well a well paying job over there would pay only about $700 a year! Meanwhile places like Communist China don’t have any “national debt” like our country does. Instead they have an enormous surplus of money by taking advantage of their own people.
      Now we see even food imported into the U.S., thus putting more of our farmers out of work. And now I even hear there are plans to begin importing military equipment and so on from other countries too, instead of making it here in our own country! I really feel sorry for our soldiers who sacrificed their lives for our nation. Why should our own military be importing what it needs when it can be manufactured right here?
      Obama says he’ll help create new jobs but instead it looks like we may see another Great Depression! How often do you see products sold in stores say “Made in the U.S.A. anymore?
      We used to be one of the world’s leading exporters but instead now all we see is mostly imported items. That doesn’t help provide needed good paying jobs for our country, ya know?
      Still sometimes I think another Great Depression could be a blessing in disguise. I mean after the last Great Depression , many turned to God in the Great Spiritual Revivals we once had. Will we see this happen again I wonder? Let’s pray so.
      Aside from all the people who sacrificed their lives defending our nation I also really feel sorry for the dedicated Founding Fathers and all they contributed and sacrificed for our nation. It’s really sad.
      I can’t help but think that if not for our or recent generations sake , that if for any good reason that this nation should continue to be blessed for their work and sacrifices.
      It would really be sad to see the demise of this country after all the Founding Fathers and others did for it, as well as all the sacrifices that have been made. Somethings certainly need to change in our country and Obama’s plan doesn’t seem to be the way other successful countries have handled related matters in the past.
      We really need to put a stop to importing so much merchandise and start having it made right here again to provide more jobs for the future. Sadly many of politicians seem more interested in making money than ever being patriotic. That needs to change. If terrorists nuked Washington D.C. tomorrow, that may very well be a blessing in disguise sort to speak. I’d hate to ever see it happen but the politicians hearts don’t appear to be directed towards our nation’s best interest.
      They don’t appear to be even half as Christian as our Founding Fathers were. They appear to be the types the Bible mentions that God would rather spew out of His mouth.
      Please pray about these matters for our nation’s future.
      Thanks and God Bless!

    • Carolyn

      **Let me guess– you are one who believes every word that Obama says. Of course I’m the Pope too. Politicians talk in reverse; they do the opposite of what they claim they will do. So far Obama has gone in reverse except about claiming “CHANGE.” He proposed CHANGE for the better and he has done totally the opposite. The proof is in the pudding and Socialism is a stepping stone to Communism and some aren’t reading the handwriting on the wall.
      Conquer and divide while claiming to unite. The sad thing, all freedom loving people lose if we don’t wake up and smell the coffee.

    • John

      LOL I think you have had to much Kool-aid frank.

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Ive been told that Obama asked Abe Lincoln what he could do to help this country the most. Lincoln told him to go to the theatre.

    • http://Yahoo MESSER

      WRONG, I NORMALLY ENGAGE MY BRAIN BEFORE OPENING MY MOUTH, MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY IT

    • http://foxnews uthink

      Frank
      I have lost my job – My home is in forbearance.
      It’s ironic you complain about the people with the pile of money! I don’t get it….
      Hollywood, the media, George Soros and crew – the man behind Obama is the wealthiest man in the country – So your point make absolutely NO sense….
      You don’t have to have a lot of money to know the facts.

      Most of us who choose to watch Fox News are free thinkers and, we also discovered that we were being deceived and mislead by other networks and groupies.
      My entire family was of the democratic party.-
      But now the democratic party has vanished and has been overtaken by hardcore screamers that are determined to have their self interest thrust upon us,.whether moral or not.

      Since I don’t believe in affirmative action,
      I don’t believe living a lifestyle that promotes aids is healthy for our children,
      I don’t believe in promoting sex without responsibility,
      I don’t believe in cutting the head off of a 7 month term baby is legal,**
      so this pretty much knocks me out of the democratic party.

      You don’t have to belong to a religious group to know right from wrong..
      But again some people don’t mind living without moral laws.

      Keep in mind; ALL Laws are based on someones morals

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        And along that line, JFK is rolling over in his grave seeing what his party has become. If he was in politics and alive today, no doubt he would be running on the Republican ticket. Thats a fact you current democrats. That is a fact.

    • http://Mr.HoguesWisdom Dale Hogue

      Frank, you’ve got to be kidding us, right? You sound like a typical democrat who has been brought up believing that Republicans are rich and mean and Democrats are poor and loving people. That’s your right. But it’s kind of stupid to believe these misleading descriptive Democratic Party talking points this late in the game, but you’ve got the right to remain ignorant and uninformed.

    • Guy Launiere

      The gouvernment should only govern. Make laws and collect enough taxes to meet the demand. When you use the credit card just to pay the groceries there is something wrong. specially when that credit card belong to your grand childrens. Nobody is worth 1 million per year, nobody. Those overpayds should be overtaxes. If you can’t make a living on 250000$ a year you are a pour administrator. Do you think that giving bonuses of 10 of million to one person makes sence? would this guy will run 10 millions times faster on the job? Thoses peoples are a clan , They are robbing their compagnie, they are robbing the stock holders. And so their co. can’t no longer compete on the world market, and they should be alowed to go under. Is it call socialisym? so what it’s better that robery anyday. Unstead let’s share the work. Everybody take a 8% cut on his hour week work, Outlaw overtime work, cut the work week to 4 days and there are no unemployd, no recession. Simple, instantany coust nothing and it work.

      • JDMONTAGUE_LI_NY

        Launiere, r u the person in the MHT chat room? If so, provide an email for me to contact you, or a phone#.

    • karen

      I don’t have a big pile of money, but what money I have or will make in the future, I don’t want the government to steal it and give it away to people who don’t want to work.

    • not an english teacher

      I say let the dems have their way . When the U.S. finally loses all of it’s credit with the rest of the world and dives into a hyperinflated depression that puts “the great one” to shame the people that work for what they have will pick up the pieces . Well be able to say I told you so to all the to all the good for nothing free loading cry babies that don’t starve to death. Personally I’m hoping they’ll be none of them left to tell. By the way I am a laborer who is thankfull that a rich man was willing to create a job for me to work . People in this emerging U.S.S.A. really need a wake up call.

    • too much government

      hey zero, you need to get a job and quit waiting for government to pay your way!

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      Sir, this is not about trusting or not trusting … FOX NEWS, this is about our ‘civil rights’ under the constitution. I for one, don’t appreciate the fact, that our children and their grand children will have to pay for this presidents … TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS … of BIG SPENDING.

      I for one, don’t appreciate a president who ‘snarls at those who demand change’ and those, who are determined to make change.

      I for one, don’t apprciate the fact, that this president wants the American People to ‘pay 50% more for heating their homes or perhaps burning candles’, because this ‘stupid man’ wants to pass legislation (cap & trade), for ‘CLEAN ENERGY’. I have an simple answer to this problem … invest in more … Nuclear Energy … It’s clean, safe, and has worked for years. Not to mention, that in many nations, ‘Nuclear Power’ is their ‘solution to the problem’.

      Do you know how much it costs the ‘tax payer’ to train someone for a job in … GREEN TECHNOLOGY … $146.000.00. What the president doesn’t mention in his speeches is for every … (1) GREEN JOB CREATED … (5) JOBS ARE LOST. Tell me, how this is going to … CREATE JOBS?

      If this president continues to … PRINT MONEY … like it’s going out of style, you better believe, better believe … that ‘INFLATION’ is going to take a … BIG BITE … out of your savings for retirement.

      This is why, for the first time in my life, I raised a banner in protest, and I’m happy and proud, to be a … TEA PARTY PATRIOT.

      • ruth

        you got that right.

        • https:/twitter.com ROCKWITHBECK

          Thank You for your response to my article.

          The Socialist Movement in this country will stop at nothing, to destroy the futures of our children and grandchildren.

          It’s the obligation of our elected officials to ‘read a bill’ before they ‘sign a bill’.

          Barack Hussein Obama is using a form of ‘Black Mail’ to get his agenda passed through both houses. Barack Hussein Obama uses his power to dictate, as ‘We The People’, fight to survive.

          ‘We The People’ have seen how he uses his ‘SCARE TACTICS’ to get his legislation through both houses. This is changing!

          The Tea Party Movement, Tweeters, Bloggers, and Patriots, are depending on ‘Mass Communication’ to ‘force a debate’ on issues which concern our lives and the lives of our children.

          Tea Party Patriots are ‘crashing servers’ and ‘melting phone lines’ from the East Coast to the West Coast. This sends a ‘signal’ to all Americans, that ‘we will be heard’, and we are ‘determined’ to remove the bad from the good.

          Tea Party Patriots are using the same tactics used by ‘Socialists’ in this country for years.

          Tea Party Patriots have ‘signed on to’: Protesting in the Streets, Signing Petitions and Using the Internet, as a tool, to spead their message.

          The Tea Party is not a threat to our government. The Tea Party is a ‘voice of the people’ … ‘We The People’. I don’t feel, its anymore ‘violent’, to ‘stand up for your rights’, as it is, to ‘Take away our Constitutional Rights’.

          I have yet! To see anyone associated with the Tea Party Movement, who encourages violence or violence against our ‘public officials’.

          What I have seen from the Tea Party Movement, is determination, loyalty, respect, honor, faith, and integrity.

          Socialists in this country have been more violent (over the years) then what I’ve experienced from the ‘Peaceful Demonstrations’, organized by the Tea Party Movement.

          Our government leaders have to understand, the American People, are no longer concerned with their personal behavior. What we are concerned with is their ‘voting record’ and how it effects our children.

          GOD BLESS AMERICA; GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS; AND GOD BLESS … ‘WE THE PEOPLE’.

    • MikeyT

      Frank,

      As to your comment about being brainwashed by someone’s religion, you seem to claim that you are “free” from that burden, or at least that’s the implication. Yet that would imply that you are atheist, or at least agnostic. So, where did you learn these things from? Who taught you that there is no God, or that maybe there isn’t a God? Probably a college professor, considering your apparent hostility to religion, most likely Christianity. Or maybe you were burned by the plethora of hypocrites in the church, an unfortunate fact of the state of affairs in Christianity today. But the bottom line is that you learned your beliefs from someone or something. Someone influenced you, most likely many people over many years. This is brainwashing. So let’s stop throwing around words that have a negative connotation and call a spade a spade. Everyone is “brainwashed”. Everyone is influenced by people outside of themselves. That’s the danger of liberal news outlets. They “present” the news from their point of view. The reality is that no one can leave their biases behind. For example, in 2004 a news reporter for the Today Show on NBC consistently referred to John Kerry as Senator Kerry, former President Bill Clinton as President Clinton and current President George W. Bush as Mr. Bush. Very subtly, this woman was showing her bias. I watched that morning with my wife and exclaimed “Did you hear that? Her prejudice was showing!” Fox News is the most level-headed of the major national news channels, but they are not perfect. Attack them if you wish, but you’re pretty thick-headed to do it here in this forum.

      Back to my original point, however. If you are truly agnostic or athestic, then you have to believe that truth is not absolute, not having a foundation in anything with substance. Yet you claim this as an absolute, once again not addressing your biases. You probably believe that the universe came from an infinitesimally small speck that exploded one day, yet you do not question where the speck came from or how a speck that was stable for eternity before would become unstable and explode. Instead of attacking people for their beliefs, it would behoove you address your own biases and prejudices first. Instead of claiming that others are brainwashed by “religion”, why don’t you address what it is that you exactly believe. Religion is dangerous because it causes you to change. Yet atheism is religion – it claims truths that transcend the physical realm and attempts to explain man’s origin, man’s purpose and man’s destiny.

      Feel free to attack my beliefs, for they are founded on the Rock. And, if you wish, you can stand on this Rock too as my brother. Jesus is big enough for both of us. But if you fail to come to this truth, you will end up standing in sand. And when the flood comes, it will be too late for you. Come now, while you still can.

      • http://commonsenseforva.blogspot.com Bigvinu

        B.S. I’m first gen. Indian and my parents know a thing or two about ‘socialism’. Trust me, this * is not* socialism.

        My parents grew up in a troubled time in Indian history. The ruling liberal party had completely instituted martial law and thrown out all foreign businesses. Thankfully, the socialist rulers thought that the people and their “affection” (really just paid support) would re-elect them, so they held elections to prove their “support”.

        They were crushed. Trust me, this country is not socialist. If it were to ever head towards socialism, there would be ample opportunities to stop it. Wake up and stop believing what people that make $$$ of panic tell you.

        It’s the same way with 2012 Doomsday believers, and Eco nuts. They get you to panic so they can profit.

        I repeat, America is not nor is it heading towards Socialism.

    • Carolyn

      And anyone who doesn’t see we are going the same steps as Rome before it fewll is definitely in a fantasy world.

    • Ginger

      Our family is a hard working, middle income family. We don’t believe in paying for those who choose not to contribute to this country in a productive manner. We do not believe that we need to be paying to bailout corporate America. We do not believe that our children and grandchildren need to be put in debt because of a President and Congress that want to socialize this country. We cannot be all things to all people. This country was not built on handouts. Mexico is a socialized nation, the state owns everything. They have a national health plan that decides, just like England and other countries with a national health plan, who has certain types of surgeries and major treatments. While in Mexico recently on a mission trip we ran into an American who lives in both the U.S. and Mexico due to his work. He purchased the Mexico national insurance coverage for him and his wife for $200 a year. Sounds great! Then his wife had to have gall bladder surgery. Sorry…..this is reserved for younger people, so he had to get his wife to the U.S. (Texas) so his wife could have the surgery she needed. Socialized countries don’t have the freedoms we have……..Big Brother Government is not a democracy. Smooth talking, self-serving promises, power mongering and laws being made for special interest groups is not a government for the people or by the people.

    • janice grubbs

      does ” USSA” describe the utopia la bamba and his cohorts are creating. Please WAKE UP………….Please!!!!!

      • B-Man

        Impeach his ass and his wife. Get their Socialist butts out of our Whitehouse.
        Impeach- Impeach.

    • B-Man

      Im so sick of you stinking lazy give me somthing for nothing punks. I have worked my way up from nothing and abusive parents to starting my ow business in 1985 to having two socialist f—-ing companies file bankrupcy on me in 1990, firing all my employees and putting on my belts working 20 hr day 7 days a week and it took 8 years to pay back $986,000 plus take care of my family. I paid every stinking dollar back and worked my company back up to hiring people again so that you lazy stinking jerk can vote in some s.o.b. that wants to take my money and give it to the world and not even people here. What the hell is wrong with people in this country. I could have only servived that in this country with the freedoms we used to have. Don’t even get started with me you punk.

      • keith

        amen,i am a 24 yr journeyman carpenter and metal studd framer,i had work under bush and now since that lieing communist muslim loving extremist has been in office i have’nt had work in 5 months.he has’nt done nothing but ruin the economy,it would have recovered on its own,but now comrad obama has truely and royally screwed it up.i don’t know when i’ll see work again.i’ve never ever asked the govt for a handout and it is’nt in my nature to do so.i despise that unpatriotic peice of garbage we have in the whitehouse now.he has put me and thousands of others out of work.i am a patriot waiting for the call to arms!
        IMPEACH OBAMA……DOWN WITH SOCIALISM!

        • B-Man

          Thank God someone out there has a heartbeat. We all need to start screaming at our rep’s and sending letters to IMPEACH Him to everyone in the white house. Send letters to local officials, send letters to every person you can contact. These dumb ass people who sit there and say, I don’t agree with what he is doing with this or that, But he’s a good speeker. What the hell is that? Who said good speeking was the reason he is qualified. He’s not even an American citizen. Why are we not screaming to expose this information? His own Grandmother told officials that she was at his birth in Kenya. Wake up you stupid ass people before he takes us out. If you think the last 6 months have been productive, he now is attacking the 22nd Amendment: Term limits on a president. He wants to be a 3-4 term Dick-tator. could you immagine this jerk for 12 of more yrs.? I say the tax burden he has dumped on us we should not pay any of it and we should use that money to pay a group of attornies to sew him and the dam-crats that are changing our laws and Constitution illegally. What they are doing is against the law but no one is pressing charges. It’s time for a real fight in this country. Get up you cowards. If you hate this country and how it has worked for 200 plus years and it’s freedoms, then get the —– out and go start your own island with your progressive crap and lets see how well you do with sex everywhere with anyone, killing babies and now even ones that are born can be killed(Late term abortion), drug lords can rule your island. Just get the hell out if you don’t like it here. We have our Constitution and Bill of Rights and our laws(if we would just enforce them) and our peaceful way of life that allows people to be creative, and invent things, and raise beautiful families that honor God. We don’t want you here and we don’t want Socialism.

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Very well said. And as long as the lefties want to keep handing it out, there will always be a punk standing there with his hand out taking it, and it sucks that it is your and my money going into these worthless lazy ass punks hands. Ever notice these lazy bastards that dont work, always are sitting around on porches drinking beer, smoking pot, and cigarettes, and doing drugs? So where is the money coming from for this? If they are dealing drugs, then they should be charged as such and not get their handouts, because they are making money. They tax me for my work, tax them. They know they are dealing, yet they dont arrest them and dont tax them. Why not? Im tired of supporting this worthless lifestyle.

    • Dickie

      You know frank, I would love to standing beside you & all the other idiots like you, When the new communist party, puts a big fat foot right up your stupid ass, Fools like you are so blind that,You are to much of a coward to watch FOX news, TO be told just how stupid you are for putting thugs in office, And when you can not get a job, And lose every thing you have, I will laugh in your stupid face, I kindda hate what is happening to Calif. But I can”t help to think these clowns desever what they get, I almost feel sorry for them, But while they keep putting that Damn thief pelosi, Back in office, So she can fly around in a DAMN govement jet along with her family & puppets, At a cost of $65,000. a wk, And her along with reid, Who pisses & moans about every thing, And has NEVER came up with anything to help America. Only his pocket, I am not a rocket scientist, I am a PROUD AMERICAN CONSTRUCTION WORKER, And I know loser & theif when I see one, And if you don”t beleve in GOD you better hope you are right, So Calif. KEEP putting pelosi, & the other clown boxer back in you derseve to lose every thing you have to all the illeagls, These carpetbaggers keep pushing to let in, My GOD, How do the rest of the world see this crap,& you don”t , Oh thats right IDIOTS watch the STATE own networks, Because you are to weak & are not man enough to make your own minds.

      • keith

        amen bro,as a out of work 24 yr journeyman carpenter i KNOW where your coming from.why don’t they ever address the problem with all the illegals taking work from hard working americans?

        • Dickie

          Keith, Think about why they want this health care plan of theirs, It is putting candy out there to bring in more illeagles, Who will get more than what we are getting free, We & you have work all of our lives to have something, Now they want to give it away to people that don”t deseved not a dime, We have fought the wars, our fathers,now our sons are, And they WILL give it all away just to get a GOSH DAMN VOTE, To keep THEIR filthy ass in so they can feed more money to their thug friends, Acorn is steal steeling & HUSSIEN OBAMB, Will not let the FBI go after them, Oh they got some but the big boys & grils are rakeing it in still, Think about it the goverment takeing over one company one at a time, After a short while they control everything including you & me, Who in the hell do people thing is going to pay for this S–T, NOTHING is free, THEY sure in the hell not, By the way they will have a little better free plan them, That we will pay for. You see their retirement plan is super great, We if any is a few hundred dollors, Theirs is MILLONS & still growing, Did you know that immigrants they get around $2,400.00 + $850. for whatever they want to spend it on. All people has to do is just look around to see,What is happening, But say I didn”t know that,& then say well ther is nothing we can do, So they sit on their fat lazey asses & just complain, Look who is running motels,gas stations,Free taxes for years then CHANGE the name to the spouse or cousin never pay taxes.All because of slugs like peosi,reid,muthar,& kenndy. Don”t beleve ME look it up, Go to you tube broad cast, Punch peosi in & see how stupid this clown is out of her own mouth, try it. Keith, you are a good man,People like us deseve better, WE are the builders of AMERCIA,

        • keith

          if you know of any commercial work going on give me a buzz….thanks

        • Dickie

          I am sorry Keith, I get so pissed, About they way we are gettin done , I think faster than I can type, The health care plan, Why don”t we have jobs,Look at anything you want to & see were is was made,or assembled, Even American named products,The old timers are the ones that sold us out, The same ones we keep putting back in, Our old friends that shake our hands at parades of little festivels, kiss babys,All the while we being honest not wanting to beleve this nice person would not do us this way, But evil has many faces.

      • B-Man

        Impeach his ass !!! Impeach this lier. He’s from Kenya not an American. The Constitution clearly states you must be an American born citizen.
        Impeach him

    • ruth

      no its not fox .i came from a socialist country was born there and it dont work go live there if you likeit so much.and talk to the older people there.

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      Not afraid of Obama, he is just another jerk in a suit. Fox is wise and fair, unlike the left wing liberal propaganda machine of ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC. If you deny this, then you sir are a liar. I dont have a pile of money, and I am not threatened by anything here. And as for socialism, we dont have to worry, because this monkey in charge is getting voted out in 2012, you can take that to the bank that Clinton and his boys tried to collapse. He will be declared null and void when the dems are all voted out in 2010, then his own people will ceremoniously throw his ass under the buss before 2012 so they can run a real man, Hillary. Yeah, it’s going to be like that, and you can thank me for my wisdom later, as it is true, I know all.

    • some guy

      I used to be one of the ones “stragling” behind, but i finally got off my ass and started to look for opportunities started to present themselves… now you want me to give my hard earned money to the people who are doing nothing but relying on welfare??? HELL NO!!!

  • Bob Livingston

    The U.S. is already in socialism. No we don’t have the jack boots and the Swastika. We have 100% socialism in all but name. The fact that Americans don’t know we are a socialist nation does not change the facts. Americans have been bamboozled with the word “democracy.” Remember that Hitler called his Nazi State “a great democracy.” Please see the January 2009 issue of The Bob Livingston Letter headlined “Put Lipstick on a Pig and Call it a Lady.” It is always amazing how the American people are bamboozled by names.

    • TeresaE

      Absolutely Bob, the “shocking” thing about this poll was the word “headed”.

      We are there. We are jailing parents for refusing to use their children as immunization guinea pigs. We jail Americans for chosing to smoke a joint, while allowing the drug cartels to kill billions.

      We are socialist folks. And, when I look around, undereducated and clueless too.

      • ed

        you can alway move to canada

        • seedaview

          Canuck here. We already have too many socilist so stay home unless you want to help our move to the right. On the other hand, I think you are needed at home more as the tide is rising faster there.

    • kristian

      Hey Bob, you are soo right on the money. It’s scary to see the empty look in peoples eyes these days. It’s like they are saying, Yes, we have to have the government save us, they are the only ones that can do it, we are helpless without it. I just dont understand. It’s like some people are willing to give up everything to get that something for nothing. They really believe they wont have to worry about paying it back. What they don’t realize is, they will pay far more for that little bit of Government assistance than it was worth and not just in monetary value either. They will also pay with their independence and freedom. I for one say keep the so called “Stimulus Package”, we are already in a hole that we won’t be out of in my life time and i’m not old. It’s one thing to have assistance programs from the government and another for them to take wholesale control over whole sectors of our life. I’d rather have to hunt for my own insurance and work 2 or 3 jobs than to lose my freedom of choice.

      • Gina

        Kristian, Bob and the rest of you that still think “Socialism” and beyond isn’t the goal: Go to an internet search site and look for “How to Catch a Wild Pig”.

        It’s an interesting presentation on how to get people to do what you want them to do with little or no resistance or complaint over time by convincing them that you are “helping” them.

        The scariest part about the present administration is that our country is well on its way to a “one-party” system. There are only 3 branches of government so there are checks and balances. One party already controls the Legislative branch (Congress) and the Administrative branch (White House). Now Souter announces his retirement from the Supreme Court, he along with numerous older justices may very well be replaced during Obama’s 4-year term. So, when that happens, all three branches of the government will be controlled by one party. Legislative/Administrative/Judicial.

        Obama removed the 2010 census from the Department of Commerce and put it under the White House, with Rahm Emmanuel in charge. ACORN has been hired to assist with the census gathering information. Does anyone know the number one primary reason for the census? In addition to finding out how many people, it is how the representatives in the House of Representatives are allocated to areas in each state. So, depending on upward or downward population in specific areas, those areas could have their representatives increased or decreased at the next elections. Does this scare anyone besides me??

        Everybody needs to wake up and start fighting for our freedoms and country much like our ancestors did.

        • B-Man

          Alot of talk and information but what are you and what are other Americans actually doing to Impeach this asshole? I’m sorrry did I say ASSHOLE? His own Grandmother told officials she was at his birth in Kenya. Wake up people and remove him from office. Impeach him!! Impeach him!! he is a lier and everything out of his mouth is a lie. 9000 earmarks on a bill where he said out loud, I Will not sign any bill with even one earmark. 9000 earmarks? Does anyone see anything wrong? Now he’s going after the 22nd Amendment to change term limits on the presidency. 6 months of this jerk is 8 months too much already, we sure as hell don’t need him for longer than one 4 yr. term. Can you immagine 12 yrs or more? (This is what dick-tators do) Impeach him now !!! Impeach him now !!!

      • keith

        you did’nt see that stupid dumb look from me,i can damn well assure you of that!

    • Dora

      You are so right Bob. We have been being led that way for a long time. If Americans would read those 45 Long Term Communist Goals for America filed in our Congressional REcords in 1963, they would see the LIGHT. The problem is that our schools have dumbed down our students so much they hardly know what communism is!

      • David Floyd

        Liberalism with it’s lies has taken over our public schools, with Christians being persecuted on our public college campuses daily.

    • rusty

      president obama and his civil defence force, what does that sound like to everyone, and what does that exactly mean.you are right mr. livingston we just dont have the uniforms yet. just wait til they come knocking at your door.this is not so far gone .What is it going to take for Americans to wake up. But most don’t care as long as they have American idol, weekend sports and beer. So what about the country, there would be riots in the street over this, more than freedom being taken away. The American people have chosen security over freedom, you will wake up one day and find, the U.N., Homeland security, and the patriot act running this country. Keep on thinking, it won’t happen in America”.

      • keith

        it means,when they come for my guns or any other americans guns i’ll have targets worth putting live rounds into!

    • rusty

      mr.livingston you are correct. some one tell me about this civilian defence force sounds like to all. it will constist of young adults 18-25 does this ring any bells to all the history folk out there.
      The Americans that saw obama as their savior deserve what they get. What is it going to take for Americans to wake up. But most don’t care as long as they have American idol, weekend sports and beer. So what about the country, there would be riots in the street over this, more than freedom being taken away. The American people have chosen security over freedom, you will wake up one day and find, the U.N., Homeland security, and the patriot act running this country. Keep on thinking, it won’t happen in America”.

      • kristian

        yup, sounds like hitler’s Germany to me, only this time it won’t be the Jews, it’ll be anybody that goes against the flow.

      • Anna in Kentucky

        It’s not just America, People. The entire world will be under the rule of one single, supposedly socialist government. One world government, one world economy, one world church…………with the Anti-Christ in charge. If you don’t want to play, accept the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ and swear your allegiance to the One Almighty God. And under no circumstances let them put an RFID in your body!

    • http://n/a Bill

      Don’t worry,the jack boots are coming unless we fight now!

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      I agree, that we are moving ‘quickly’ towards … SOCIALISM. I do feel, that we can make change, and to do this, ‘WE THE PEOPLE’, have to ‘take to the streets’, and demand, our ‘civil rights’.

      It’s not to late, the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, is a prime example of ‘ANGRY AMERICANS’ … who are ‘foaming at the mouth’, to see that, our rights under the Constitution are protected, and that our childrens rights are protected.

      I know, that on APRIL 15, 2009, 1.2 MILLION PATRIOTS, marched against … BIG GOVERNMENT, and GOVERNMENT SPENDING, and I can tell you this, “WE THE PEOPLE” are determined to ‘stop’ this governments move towards … SOCIALISM”. Don’t you see, that ‘WE THE PEOPLE’, recognize what is happening in Washington? Our movement, starts with one drop of water, which joins with another drop of water, until we have created a ‘FLOOD OF SUPPORT’ to ‘DEMAND’, change in Washington DC.

      TOGETHER WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL.

      • keith

        listen to the song”to arms in dixie”,it says it all bro!

      • https:/twitter.com ROCKWITHBECK

        The Tea Party Movement is the ‘sword’ needed to fight … SOCIALISM.

        I was very disppointed with the, July 4th, Tea Party in … Atlanta Georgia. The Tax Day Tea Party, had a crowd of 20,000+, the July 4th Tea Party had a crowd of ‘maybe’ … 150 people.

        This leads me to ask the question? Are the Tea Parties a ‘flash in the pan’ as suggested by … Barack Hussein Obama?

        This leads me to ask the question? Are the Tea Parties a ‘based on entertainment’, and not the ‘strength needed to fight the enemy?

        The Tax Day Tea Party in Atlanta Geogria, was headed by … Shawn Hannity, and a country music Star.

        The Fourth of July Tea Party in Atlanta Georgia, did not have a ‘Celebrity’ headling the … Tea Party Movement.

        When are we going to learn … The Tea Party … is not about entertainment, but rather, being seen in ‘huge number’s.

        Washington is looking at numbers … not entertainment.

        The Fourth of July Tea Party in Atlanta Georgia, was a ‘MAJOR FLOP’. We can make excuses all day long, but the organizers ‘failed’ to do their job, and that is: Assemble an ‘Army’ for attack on Washington DC. You can’t fight a ‘REVOLUTION’ without … soldiers.

        I hope, things change, or we are fooling ourselves. We are ‘brain washing’ ourselves, to the fact, that Tea Parties really matter. If a Tea Party ‘matters’, and you are a ‘real patriot’, you stand on your ‘two feet’, and march with your brothers-in-arms.

        If Barack Hussein Obama is looking at Atlanta Georgia as a ‘failure’ in regards to the … Tea Party Movement … then … Barack Hussein Obama … WINS.

        • Rob

          Rockwithbeck, when you mention “soldiers” and “brothers in arms,” you need to be very careful of what you say.
          I listen to Beck myself, and I know that Beck does not advocate violence.

          Statements like that can be misconstrued, and taken to mean some kind of militia movement.

          The Fed is very sensitive about those kinds of things.

          Any fool who actually thinks that some kind of armed insurrection is the answer, is seriously deluded. I mean that.

          Anyone, I mean ANYONE, with foolish ideas such as those, and I have heard some disturbing comments on this site, who foolishly think armed insurrection is the answer is a nut.

          I have heard comments from vets. I can tell you this, logistically an armed insurrection fantasy is simply not possible. As if such a thing could ever be organized. As if such a thing wouldn’t be infiltrated top to botton with FBI.

          I am not specifically talking to you Rockwithbeck, I am also talking to any others saying these kinds of things. I have heard these things many times.

          If you want to change this country, run for office. If you want to change this country, vote out EVERY member of congress and every member of the senate. We still have voting in our hands. Better oversite at the polls is a good idea too.

          Change from within. I take this personally, because when you say such foolish things, you only play into the hands of paranoid federal officials. Our personal freedom has been assaulted enough already, do not give them reason to assault it some more. Beacuse they will.

          Say what you mean, mean what you say.

          See Bob’s other article, this should give you pause…

          http://www.personalliberty.com/bob-livingston/us-attorney-wants-newspaper-to-name-names/

          Think first.

        • Rob

          I gotta mention this too.
          They would never allow the US arsonal to slip out of their hands. And would you really want that? It would be a nightmare scenario. Nothing would be secure. There could be profiteering like when the Soviets collapsed. Who knows where the stuff would wind up…

          Not to get off topic…
          And again I’m not specifically speaking to you Rockwithbeck.

          But I had to say this.
          I had to say this because I am so sick of hearing crap about armed insurrections.
          Its not thought out, and its totally irresponsible.
          I don’t want to keep harping about this, but enough already.
          Use your heads.

          Think first, speak second.

  • Paul

    I agree that we have become a nation of socialism. We will soon become controlled by those who are communits.

  • Karen

    I agree with Margaret and of course Bob. One of the only places to get the truth, is FOX. I have quit reading and/or watching the liberal stations. They elected Obama. They did not publish the truth about him and told lies about McCain/Palin or just made them look like fools as they did with Bush. I can’t get over the number of people who voted for Obama that never heard any of the real facts about this man. They just keep saying the same thing over and over again. He is for change. Watch out you Obama lovers. You might just get it. However, change is not always a good thing. The only change we really need is less government and more encouragement of what made this country what it is. Toughness, resilience, hard work, and the giving nature of the American people.

    • Sandy

      Karen,

      I totally agree with you, I used to watch Matt Lauer, and then when Katie
      Couric went to channel 10, I watched her, but ever since this whole election
      I have watched Fox, they seem to tell the truth, and don’t bash others.

      I really wonder where Obama was born? There has been alot of
      misgivings about that also. We need less government, and more what the
      people want.

      We need to really all pray for our Country, so that no more socialism happens….

      They say that be careful what you wish for you just might get it, we need to be
      watchful and prayerful, and humble….

      If my people which are called by my name shall seek my face and turn from
      their wicked ways, they will I hear from heaven and forgive their sins, and
      heal their land.

    • http://www.procardinternational.com/peggyk4660 gene kelley

      strong textA-M-E-N
      I AGREE THEY HAVE BLAMED THE REPUBLICANS ALL OF THIER LIVES AND ALLWAYS WILL DO THAT WELL YOU WILL GET A GHANGE BUT I GURANTEE IT WILL NOT BE ONE THAT YOU LIKE AND IF HE DONT CHEANGE AND REPENT AND BECOME A BORN AGAIN CHILD OF GOD THEN YOU WILL FACE THE WRATH OF GOD AND THAT WILL BE BAD SO YOU BETTER JOIN IN WITH ME IN PRAYING THAT BARRACK WILL GET SAVED AND BECOME A CHRISTIAN WE HAVE HIS NAME ON OUR PRAYER LIST AT CHURCH AND PRAY EVRY DAY FOR HIM THAT IS WHAT HE NEEDS.

      • cemott3rd

        Personally I have only blamed the Republicans recent years. I have always been a proud Independant and was a supporter of Perot in ’92. Meanwhile OUR President is already a practising Christian and in no need of YOUR salvation….but you ARE in need of a spelling checker ;p

        • kristian

          LOL, sorry, that last part about the spell checker made me chuckle.:D p.s. I liked Ross Perot too, he was a funny little man but seemed very genuine and very intellegent. I hope i spelled all that right. lol

        • http://www.procardinternational.com/peggyk4660 gene kelley

          talk about some one that needs to get a spell checker check your own out ha ha well as for obama he claim to be a christian but if that is so then everyone is walking around on there hands.

        • http://foxnews uthink

          Take a good look: Does his actions reflect a practicing Christian?
          A Christian is one who obeys GODs laws -
          One who does not believe in abortion or killing children for the sake of having sex without responsibility. BO clears the way to promote such acts.
          A Christian does not promote Homosexuality which it is an abomination.
          He promote this agenda openly – conditioning our young to except this lifestyle as normal when in fact it is a choice that promotes the spread of Aids and heartache.
          And “Black Power” was not taught from the lips of Christ.

          His words are empty and arrogant – speaking only of his power.

          Salvation is a gift from GOD for those who honor him.

          Do not be deceived my friend…..

    • Dave

      I have also quit watching the liberal media. Not only did they fail to fairly cover Obama but totally destroyed Palin (will they treat Princess Caroline the same) and Bush.

      America was built on hard work and risks. It is too bad that people who don’t want to be here don’t just leave. I just finished reading “The Marketing of Evil” by David Kupelian. The book describes how the American people have misled about many of this issues “championed” by liberals and Democrats.

      I certainly hope that Obama chooses to represent all Americans and not just those who elected him. Princess Pelosi and Prince Harry will lead us into deeper trouble by continuing to “sell” Gore’s special interest in global warming or should I say climate change and taxing the workers the middle class.

      By the way what ever happened to low class? I guess it went away with kickball, dodgeball, tryouts and anything else that might be competitive and motivational. God forbid that anybody ever lose. The goverment will now ensure that everyone wins, no one gets their feelings hurt, goes hungry or wears anything other than what they choose (regardless of ability to pay).

      • kristian

        Thats just it, they don’t want to leave. They want us to have to accept the way they want things to be. What always amazes me is how the media schews things to appear that the majority of people are for things when you know that the fact is just the opposite is true. Like for example, the immigration issue. The media would have us believe that the majority of Americans have no problem with making all of the illegals legal. I think that some of the 500,000 that lost their jobs last month as well as many others, would say differently. Especially when they continue to import legal foreign workers as well as the illegals.

      • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

        I can assure you that the LEFT WING MEDIA … hasn’t destroyed or intimidated Sarah Palin.

        Sarah Palin is going to be around for a long time, and what impresses me the most about this women, is her strength and integrity.

        Sarah Palin is … and will remain … a ‘threat’ to the Democratic Party. If this wasn’t the case, they why, do you hear so much, anger spewing from the mouths of the Democrats and the Liberal Media? In fact, I find it quite amusing.

        I’d live to see a Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin match up in 2012. One thing for sure … Newt Gingrich would shew president Obama up, and spit him out, like tobacco juice.

        WHY NOT JOIN THE TEA PARTY AND MARCH WITH US … AND ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2009, MARCH WITH US … TO THE CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES.

  • Ron

    Today is a dark day for the future of the country I love.

    • Dean Brassfield

      Pun INTENDED, Ron???!!!

      • Ron

        Thou hast said…..

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      JOIN THE MARCH TO END SOCIALISM IN THIS COUNTRY.

      Your voice, joined with thousands of others, will ‘PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF AMERICA’.

      You can change a ‘dark day’ into a ‘sunny day’ if you are willing to ‘fight’ for your rights.

      JOIN THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT … NOW!

  • Robin from Indiana

    Really tough times are coming. Those who voted for Obama think he is a savior of sorts. I don’t. I think the media controlled this election and so did a lot of wealthy people. You have heard the term, money talks, bull#@%* walks… This is pretty much what happened. The United States as we know it will be fading rapidly.

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      Don’t forget … ACORN?

      I’m sure, many of the votes received by this president where … from the ‘dead’.

      I don’t believe its to late to end this administrations move towards … SOCIALISM. The ‘fire of discontent’ is being heard across this country, as we speak.

      If you believe ‘quote’ … “The United States as we know it will be fading rapidly” (end quote), then of course, our government will be a … SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT.

      I don’t believe this, because your voice can be heard, if you are willing to ‘change government’ and you do that at the voting booth … if your congressman or senator, isn’t doing his job, THROW IS BUTT OUT ON THE STREET.

      I’M A MEMBER OF THE TEA PARTY AND WHAT WE WANT IS: TERM LIMITS.

      What happens when you continue to vote into office, those who don’t do nothing, you get a … vice-president … who served 30 years in the Senate … without any accomplishments.

      I’m fighting against … SOCIALISM … as we speak, and if you are concerned about … BIG GOVERNMENT … then join us, and help us, to win this fight against … GOVERNMENT CONTROL.

  • sue

    obama has came in like a lamb but is the slyest of all the foxes around. People will wake up one day and see what he really is and what and who he is working for then it will be too late……God help us! He has hypnotized the nation and the people have blinders on where he is concerned, just like hitler…i don’t captilize their names because they are not worthy of correct spelling or anything in my book. We are doomed people except for God helping us………..and have been for a long time. People can say what they want to about Christians but we’re all that has kept America going , our prayers and God’s mercy!

    • TeresaE

      No they won’t wake up. Come to Detroit to see that reality. 40 years of Democratic control and what a Mecca it is!

      Public education has totally wiped out the ability of the average American to look at reality and uncover the cause.

      You have more faith than I if you actually think most Americans can rationalize and think.

      As an employer, I can tell you, no they don’t.

      • Citizen

        Do ya mean to come to Detroit to see the effects of jobs leaving the country due to anti-industry conservative economic policy of the last 40 years? To say a certain party had control is misleading. There are many so-called Democrats that are economic conservatives. So in reality, the U.S. economic situation is a result of reaganite economic policies that encouraged (e.g. tax incentives) jobs leaving, increasing gov’t spending while putting into place tax cuts for the elite, destruction of family-wage jobs, destruction of community owned hospitals (gee, could this be part of what happened to health care?), anti-national security trade deals, etc, etc.

        • http://Yahoo MESSER

          WHY DON’T YOU GO ALL THE BACK TO GEORGE WASHINGTON AND BLAME EVERY ONE ELSE FOR THE ILLS OF THIS COUNTRY. BY THE WAY, FOR ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE NEVER SIGNED A PAY CHECK, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO A LITTLE RESEARCH AND GIVE SOME THOUGHT AS TO WHY THE ECONOMY HAS GONE TO HELL WITH A “HAND CART”

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      I’m not ‘hypnotized’ or have ‘blinders’ on when it comes to this president and his attempt to move our government into a … SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT.

      If you are believe … Americans aren’t aware of our current status, you are fooled, because on April 15, 2009, 1.2 MILLION, patriots, showed their anger, and who are prepared to turn a ‘small fire’ of discontent into a … RAGING FIRING.

      It’s going to be a struggle, but nothing is impossible, if you believe in your own strength and integrity.

  • http://heraldnet.com Chas

    Check out this>from Heraldnet.com under local news, burn ban in effect:

    The guilty must prove their innocence…. Sounds like Facism to me.
    *****
    Violating the burn ban costs $1,000. An inspector for the Clean Air Agency has to see smoke coming out of the chimney to write a ticket, either by happening upon it or by responding to a complaint.

    As with all wintertime burn bans, anyone who can show that their wood stove is their sole source of heat won’t have to pay the fine. They still may be issued a ticket up front, though, and will have to file an appeal with the Clean Air Agency.

    A “stage 1″ ban, under which cleaner burning wood and pellet stoves may be used, was called on Sunday. This can be called at any time if it appears the weather will create the inversion layer that causes pollution levels to rise, Gilroy said.

    The agency held off until today to send its 14 inspectors into the field, Cline said. This gives people more of a chance to hear about the ban, she said.

    “We issue (the bans) at noon with the intent of actively beginning patrolling the next morning,” she said.

    • TeresaE

      Wow, just read the ban.

      As Michigan passed a law allowing the gas company to increase delivery rates, my bill shot up over 50% year over year. And I keep my home at 66 degrees.

      My house is now at 62, I can’t afford for it to go up anymore. If we banned burning my fireplace, my house would be in the 50s as I cannot AFFORD to pay the utility company.

      Add to the fact that in Michigan, full 6% sales tax is collected on utilities, and you start to realize why these “bans” are being implemented. No tax collections on wood, HUGE taxes on “cleaner” energy.

      We have been sold a bill of goods and have no one but ourselves to blame.

      Welcome to the New America, regulated, taxed to death, starving, unemployed, homeless and freezing.

      We are the first generation that is guaranteeing our children and grandchildren will have it much worse than we ever did.

      Keep up the good work and remember to keep voting the power brokers from both sides into Washington!

      • David Floyd

        If you use the fireplace you send about 50% or more of your generated heat out the chimney. Install a wood burning stove or fireplace insert to improve your efficiency and thus reduce your bills. You also legally avoid the 6% tax. It helps to remain self sufficient, thus avoiding a future need of accepting government handouts.

        That is called taking responsibility for one’s self. Unfortunately government fails to see that need.

        • kristian

          David, That would be peachy-keen if everybody that has a wood burning fireplace could afford to upgrade to a new fireplace insert. However, the reality is that is not the case, there are many people on fixed incomes these days and not because they want a government handout, for example the elderly. I do agree with what you said about being self sufficient but the reality of the times in which we now currently live makes it more difficult for some vulnerable persons. Persons who are in a needy position not by their own doing. I’m all for being green but when somebody doesn’t have heat because they can’t afford the jacked up prices, well then how green is it really? It’s hard to worry about the eco system when your freezing your a$$ off.

        • David Floyd

          Kristan, it is far cheaper to install the wood burning stove or insert versus continuing sending money up the chimney. If the fireplace is the primary source of heat, the savings will pay for the stove or insert over a very short time. If the fireplace is not the primary source of heat, shut it down, close the flue you are needlessly wasting heat and needed money.

          If one is truly freezing their assets off I would expect them to also become motivated to do something about it- unless they already are on the government dole.

          My sister had polio as a child. She has no memory of running with other kids. On her own, she worked and paid for college including a masters degree, created from scratch the largest, most respected foster home agency in southern Ohio, gives speeches across the US, has reared foster kids in her own home as well as adopting a mentally challenged (alcoholic teen mother) son, reared her own daughter (4.0 GPA in college and is working on a masters). Sis is not handicapped, only people who think they are handicapped are; she just has to do walking a bit differently than most. She has never complained about her lot in life, but has taken action to do and be the best she can. She is my hero.

          I lost a great job (thru no fault of my own) in 1994. I took classes (at my expense), accepted no government assistance in any form, learned a new trade and never looked back. I am a better person for it. My sister was my inspiration.

          In the face of adversity we either rise to the occasion or fall under adversity’s feet as victims. I choose to rise. Others can make similar decisions- or they can just belly-ache.

    • kristian

      hey Chas, just read the article. That is just crazy. What next no more summer time grilling. Better get out the electric grill for your burgers and weenies. lol Geesh!! It is so obvious too where all that is headed too. They are trying to say get the new better burning heat sources, when what they really are planning, is to put a complete ban on burning wood and then it will be a ban on gas too shortly after. I have a question though, what if the power is out for several days and nobody has heat because they have all been forced to get rid of their wood burning stoves or fireplaces? Oh well, maybe Obama can raise his staff and send a heat wave that way. Can somebody pinch me now? I’d like to wake up!

      • kristian

        oh and one more thing, they better come up with something to catch all that methane coming out of the cows, can’t have all those cows pooting and destroying the atmos and you better watch it you might be next if you’re out there eating too much chili….

      • kristian

        Hey David, I’m glad you’re proud of your sister, she really does sound like an incredible person. It’s nice to see someone so loving toward their sibling. It’s sad so many people these days don’t seem to get along with their families. My dad had polio as a child also and raised 4 children and has a successful business as well. It wasn’t always easy but he and my mom both worked hard and taught us to respect others and we rarely were treated to junk food, toys and all the rest that friends of ours got. The funny thing is we ended up not caring about those things as adults and have great respect for our parents. Not because they were opressive either but because they lead by example. Anyway, i was just wanting to say that I understand where you are coming from about the inserts, but there are people that can barely afford to pay for the bare necessitys, like older retired people. I have a fire place and dont use it for the same reason as you stated about half the heat just going straight on out of the chimney.

  • John

    Headed towards socialism, I believe we have been there for quite awhile now!

    • zanthi

      YOUR WRIGHT JOHN, FOR ABOUT THE LAST 30 YEARS!!! IF YOU HAVE LIVED OVER SEAS AND EXPERIENCED SOCIALISM, AS I HAVE YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE IT IMEDIATELY. I HAVE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE THIS FOR YEARS, THEY JUST LAUGHED!!! WELL I GUESS THERE NOT LAUGHING NOW. PEOPLE RECOGNIZE NOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY OUR COUNTRY IS UNFOLDING, AND IT IS NOT OBAMA’S FAULT HE JUST HAPPENED TO BE PUT THERE , OR SHALL I SAY THROWN INTO THE WEB THAT HAS BEEN SPUN OVER THE YEARS . ITS LIKE A COOKING RECIEPE YOU GIVE IT TO SOMEONE TO MAKE AND GUESS WHAT THEY ALTER THE RECEIPE , AND YOU HAVE CREATED SOMETHING THAT EITHER SMELLS OR YOU CAN’T EAT BECAUSE IT LEAVES A BAD TASTE IN YOUR MOUTH, NOT TO MENTION IN YOUR STOMACH AS WELL. WELL THATS MY SPIN ON THIS AND I AM STICKING TO IT!!!!!

      • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

        Totally disagree … I strongly believe, that It is Obama’s fault for handing us … TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT … and forcing outrageous debt on our children and grand children.

        President Obama wasn’t ‘thrown into the web, as you suggest’, President Obama … It was his decision to ‘run for office’ .

        One last thing, President Obama doesn’t make a very good cook.

  • Chas

    Check out this from Heraldnet.com under local news, burn ban in effect:

    The guilty must prove their innocence…. Sounds like Facism to me.
    *****
    Violating the burn ban costs $1,000. An inspector for the Clean Air Agency has to see smoke coming out of the chimney to write a ticket, either by happening upon it or by responding to a complaint.

    As with all wintertime burn bans, anyone who can show that their wood stove is their sole source of heat won’t have to pay the fine. They still may be issued a ticket up front, though, and will have to file an appeal with the Clean Air Agency.

    A “stage 1″ ban, under which cleaner burning wood and pellet stoves may be used, was called on Sunday. This can be called at any time if it appears the weather will create the inversion layer that causes pollution levels to rise, Gilroy said.

    The agency held off until today to send its 14 inspectors into the field, Cline said. This gives people more of a chance to hear about the ban, she said.

    “We issue (the bans) at noon with the intent of actively beginning patrolling the next morning,” she said.

  • Daniel F.

    Not all of us are hypnotized. I firmly believe the voters, many who were hypnotized by the liberal media, have presented the fox the keys to the henhouse, however.

    • Citizen

      Let me see now. Something like 80% of all media is owned by 5 large corporations. Corporations are by law bound to seek the highest return for the shareholders. Is that activity conservative or liberal? Don’t mean to ask such hard questions: it may take some courage to sort this out.

      • http://Yahoo MESSER

        SINCE YOU LIKE TO USE STATISTICS, MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT “TALK RADIO”. “CONSERVATIVE VS LIBRIAL” WHICH WOULD RATE SUCESSFUL AND THE OTHER AN ABYSMAL FAILURE

      • Tom in Michigan

        Citizen,
        isn’t it interesting that many liberal newspapers are in financial bind or going belly up not quite four months after your comments? I know that te electronic media are eating their lunches but MSNBC and NBC and the others are also elctronic and are in trouble. May be their merchandize is not all that popular, after all.

        • Citizen

          Guess I need to really call you all on it. I was responding to Daniel’s accusation that the media is liberal. Neither of you responded to my question as to whether seeking the highest return for stockholders (as is required of corporations) is conservative or liberal. In my experience, conservatives just hate to even consider this question, probably because of the huge implications. As to the financial condition of newspapers, there are many reasons for that, I’d be interested in how that relates to the accusation that the press is liberal. I don’t consider MSNBC or NBC to be a great example of being liberal, either. When was the last time either of them did an indepth examination of the conservative war on working people, tax breaks for shipping jobs overseas, Haliburton offshoring to avoid paying taxes (on DOD contracts, no less, paid for with tax dollars), takeover of family farms by corporate agribusiness?

  • Linda Eubanks

    All I have to say about this soon -to- be- president and our citizens…is that there is a H-ll of a lot of stupid people in this nation that don’t take the time to find out the facts and just sail along “following” the media hipe, looking for a “hollywood type” to save the nation. The citizens of this once great nation, are in for a big surprise…and when that happens….it will be too late. Get ready.

    • David Floyd

      Not so much as the hollywood hype as the hollywood idiots. Ronnie Reagan was a great leader, he defeated communism- only to have socialism creep in the back door years later with a new face in the guise of making history. The change we are getting is in fact historical- a rapid march into mass welfare and socialism.

      No mistake, hollywood dos not deserve to be capitalized.

  • Dee from Texas

    Today is the day ” as the song says” That Ole’ Dixie Died!

  • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

    I grew up under a socialist system in the Soviet Union.

    America is a socialist state just yet, but it looks more and more like one.

    I immigrated here 10 years ago and it’s so sad to witness the moral, spiritual, and economic decline of this nation.

    Liberal Xns hijacked the mainstream churches, and that was the beginning of the end, IMHO.

    If Xns were fully devoted to God, they would never have sent their children to public school.

    • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

      I meant to say, “America is NOT a socialist state just yet, but it looks more and more like one.”

      Also, real Xns would never have voted for a man that supports gay agenda.

      Read Leviticus 26.

      • lesley

        You are so right. I see friends and relatives whose churches started changing, tried to get hip, signed onto programs like purpose driven instead of just studying the BIBLE.
        ANYONE who voted for OBAMA is not a true Christian.
        The man sat in a pew for 20 years with a bunch of corrupt politicians who called themselves a church and said GD AMERICA?
        He associates with criminals and terrorists. (Rezco and Ayers).
        He is a ABORTION FANATIC, i.e. a leader in infanticide in America.
        ANYONE who voted for this Evil man can no longer call themselves a Christian. period.

        • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

          I see friends and relatives whose
          churches started changing, tried to
          get hip, signed onto programs like
          purpose driven instead of just
          studying the BIBLE.

          It was clear that Rick supports Obama ever since he hosted that Forum in his church with McCain and Obama…. So, no surprise there that he’s invited to sanctify Hussein’s rule.

          I guess the choice was to support a liberal that openly says that he is a liberal, or support a woman that claimed to be godly woman yet engaging in a non-biblical treatment of her daughter that openly lived in fornification during the campaign…

        • kristian

          So is that guilt by association? If that is the case then I fear there is nobody that can call themselves a Christian then. It is not for you to judge the heart of men, only God himself can do that. Unless you are without sin you should not cast the stones that you are throwing at others. All of the apostles abandoned Christ in his time of need, does that mean they are condemned? No, like wise, not everyone in that church is headed for the same fate. Don’t judge others because You will be judged more harshly for doing so. All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God! Isn’t that what the bible says? It also says remove the plank from your own eye before you try to remove the splenter from someone elses.

        • kristian

          this is to Nikolai, Do you call yourself a Christian? You seem to be quite adept at judging others Christianity, you better hope and pray God doesn’t Jude you as harshly for judging others. You stated in one of your other comments that you would pray for Hussein just like you pray for Bush etc. First off if you were praying for him the same you would also call him by his name Obama just as you did the others. However it is more than apparent that you instead call him by his middle name to show your disdain. I myself didn’t vote for Obama but I also have real reason for not voting for him and I spoke those publicly and didn’t try and use his middle name as some insult to hurl at him to try and associate him with a bad group of people. I know a lot of people name Jesus and i’ll tell you what, they sure aren’t the one in the bible. Also who are you to judge Gov. Palin? Just because you try to teach and instill morals and values in your children doesn’t mean they are going to do what you want them to do. So see, i could say the same thing about you, you try to sound like a Christian but you are gossiping about others and bearing false witness and judging others, therefore you can’t be a Christian. See, it is people like yourself that causes others to flee from the Lord because they assume that all of we Christians are like you, oh, and by the way yes it is Christians, replacing Christ’s name with an X is an insult to our Lord. You will be held accountable for those you have lead astray and chased away from the Lord. Pray he is more forgiving to you than you apparently are to others.

        • Michelle

          that’s right lesley or an American!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Paul

    So many of us have been raised in socialism that it is impossible for most to
    understand what it is. If you ask someone are we socialist or even what socialism
    isvery few could give an educated answer. To my understanding it is very hard to break the addiction of government control back to a representative republic contolled by a constitution that couldprotect it’s people from it’s own government.

    • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

      Paul – you are right, most ppl don’t know a formal definition of socialism.

      And what is formal definition of socialist?

      Dictionaries and college textbooks are hardly authoritative on the subject matter.

      I was just reading about new cambridge dictionaries that removed or modified many Xnty-related words and introduced gay-related terms. Publishers say that is to stay current.

      Anyways, regardless of the definition, if what was in Soviet Union was socialism, America is still far from socialism.

      • Gina

        Nikolai and Paul,

        Welcome to Civics 101.

        This should be mandatory reading for anyone wishing to register to vote in this country.

        A lot of terms are being thrown around these days regarding the political future of our country. Fear-mongering, finger-pointing, crisis managing, blame, promises made, promises broken, and insecurity of the people in the country all seem to be the order of the day. Too many people are fearful about what is happening now and what is going to happen next.

        Here is a list of definitions for various (not all) forms of government that is well documented on websites and in history books. If you want more go to a search engine and type in the keyword you are interested in knowing more about.

        This information is just information and facts readily available to everyone in any public library, history book or internet.

        There are so many debates going on between people that have strong beliefs one way or the other, but sadly, many with the most closely held beliefs often have not actually read up on this information. Too many voters do not know their own parties’ core platform values. So, read it, try to learn something, and decide what you believe in with facts, or at least be sure you know the definition of the terms you toss around before you get into a debate with someone.

        Check it out, it’s very interesting.

        CAPITALISM:
        * An economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.
        *An economic system based on a free market, open competition, profit motive and private ownership of the means of production. Capitalism encourages private investment and business, compared to a government-controlled economy. Investors in these private companies (i.e. shareholders) also own the firms and are known as capitalists.

        POPULISM:
        *A philosophy supports “the people” versus “the elites”. Populism may comprise an ideology urging social and political system changes or a rhetorical style employed by members of political or social movements. Generally, populism invokes an idea of democracy as being, above all, the expression of the people’s will.

        SOCIALISM:
        *A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of a society, with what the leaders determine to be a more just and equitable distribution of property, wealth and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme.

        *An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods is controlled or owned substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise or individual business owners, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism. Some socialists tolerate capitalism as long as the government maintains the dominant influence or control over the decisions affecting the economy; others insist on an abolition of private enterprise. All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists

        *The stage in Marxist Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship by one leader of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

        COMMUNISM:
        *A system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
        *A scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all.

        FASCISM:
        *A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often some form of ethnic superiority.
        *A system of government marked by centralization of authority under one leader or dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition to control and leadership through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism.

        MARXISM:
        *The doctrines of Karl Marx and his associate Friedrich Engels on economics, politics, and society. They include the notion of economic determinism — that political and social structures are determined by the economic conditions of people. Marxism calls for a classless society, where all means of production are commonly owned, a system to be reached as an inevitable result of the struggle between capitalists and workers.
        *the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society.

        STALINISM:
        *The form of Marxism associated with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin. Stalinism emphasizes the repression of all dissent, often by brutal means; a rigid adherence to government management of economic life; and the domination of all communist movements worldwide by the Soviet Union. In holding to these beliefs, Stalin opposed Leon Trotsky.
        LENINISM:
        *The political and economic theories of Lenin which provided the guiding doctrine of the Soviet Union; the modification of Marxism by Lenin stressed that imperialism is the highest form of capitalism (which shifts the struggle from developed to underdeveloped countries)
        DICTATORSHIP:
        *A form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition, but at the will of the dictator).
        *Government by a single person or by a junta or other group that is not responsible to the people or their elected representatives. A military junta is a government led by a committee of military leaders with usually one supreme leader. Junta’s generally result after a violent removal or overthrow of a government/leader and military rule prevails.
        NOTE: Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both dictators
        MONARCHY:
        *A system of government in which one person reigns, usually a king or queen. The authority, or crown, in a monarchy is generally inherited. The ruler, or monarch, is often only the head of state, not the head of government. Many monarchies, such as Britain and Denmark, are actually governed by Parliaments. There are two types of Monarchy, Absolute and Constitutional.
        REPUBLICAN PARTY CORE PLATFORM:
        *Our people must be free to pursue happiness, financial independence, educational preferences and business success.
        *Our citizens must have the right to equality and opportunity.
        *Our government’s power must be decentralized. State’s rights should prevail on all issues specific to that state, not Federal control which should be exercised on all nationally common resources and/or services provided.
        *Our desire is for as much energy independence utilizing all energy sources possible to maintain a balance while utilizing our country’s natural resources as much as possible.
        *Our economy must be based on a Free Market System that encourages individual excellence, and focuses on domestic production of goods to ensure less reliance on imports to stimulate fair trade.
        *Our foreign policy must be centered on free and fair trade with other nations.
        *Our country must have leaders that practice fiscal responsibility and place the good of the country above their own personal goals of holding office.
        *Our nation has always been and must always be strongly defended at all times.
        *Our leadership must govern with integrity and accountability.

        DEMOCRATIC PARTY CORE PLATFORM:
        *Fiscal responsibility in Washington.
        *Ensuring all Americans have good jobs with good pay.
        *Establishing energy independence and security, and promoting alternative sources.
        *Ensuring strong trade policies.
        *Protect civil liberties.
        *Rebuild national infrastructure.
        *Ensure tight regulatory oversight of the financial sector.
        *Support our military.
        *Restore National Guard and Reserve to ensure readiness.
        *Support injured, returning and retired veterans better.
        *Work for open, accountable and ethical government.

        • William Sowles

          AS MARGERET THATCHER ONCE SAID: “SOCIALISM WORKS UNTIL OTHER PEOPLES MONEY RUNS OUT.”

      • Gina

        Nikolai,

        If you want to read about some socialist views, read “Atlas Shrugged” and then read “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky. He was the subject of our current Secretary of State’s thesis at Wellesley College and she truly admired Mr. Alinsky. The books are chilling when compared to what is happening in our country today.

  • lesley

    Name changes, atheism upbringing, liberal radical college education, admitted drug abuse.
    Abortion Agenda, 20 years in a pew preaching Black Liberation Theology and “GD AMERICA!”????
    This man is a travesty and ANYONE who voted for him can NOT truly call themselves CHRISTIAN.
    I am a tenth generation AMERICAN whose ancestors FOUGHT for AMERICA.
    IT breaks my heart to see how LIBERALS have DESTROYED my country.

    • TeresaE

      I have to say, that until Christians quit pulling the morality and “god” card, you are feeding the fire.

      Read the Constitution, it is written in very clear and concise language.

      It is NONE of the governments business what I choose to do with my own body.

      More laws & regulations, especially when they concern personal choice issues-not CRIME and foreign policy, CAUSES more crime.

      The “drug war” is a complete and utter failure. Trillions wasted to make Christians feel good. Drug cartels and street thugs have ALL the money and the government continues to grow and grow and grow.

      Yet, the cost of a gram of coke is EXACTLY the same as it was 30 years ago. Adjusting for inflation, that makes drugs CHEAPER.

      Humans will ALWAYS do drugs, ALWAYS. The same percent are addicts now as before the “war” began. If we spent the trillions on education and rehabilitation programs, we would have seen a decrease.

      BOTH sides are guilty. Both.

      If we could regulate stupid or crazy out of existence, it would have already happened.

      But, keep on fighting and keep us divided. Liberals want government control over my child’s education and immunizations, Conservatives want government control over my child’s morality and reproductive systems.

      We all lose either way.

      • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

        Which both sides?

        Your words imply there are two sides?

        There are many sides, many views, many interest groups…. You didn’t have to choose between Hussein and McCain. And you don’t have to turn blind eye on Hussein just because you did not like Bush.

        Check out the constitution party or ron paul or others…

        • TeresaE

          You imply that you think I voted for Barry, nope you couldn’t force me to vote for a Democrat for President.

          There are two sides. The two parties have effectively guaranteed that we can’t make any other choice.

      • http://noaa.gov jimminynix

        I like your post and sympathize with the frustration of the choices we apparently have when we are allowed to vote.

        Wanting our own freedom from government interference while applauding the governments interference into others private lives is the worst hypocrisy – and the religious fanatics are the most outrageous on this score – “the war on drugs”.

        A Constitutional Amendment thus worded; “No citizen of the United States, or the several States, shall be subject to criminal prosecution unless he or she physically harms the person or property of a nonconsenting other.” is the most eloquent solution, too bad the Government publicly murdered the Author a few years ago. (Peter Macwilliams)

    • trampledclass

      Admitted drug abuse Lesley????????? You talking about Bush and coke?? God Bless Obama Sorry but the world is not standing still Lesley like the rusted republican party. (You) need to repent my friend.

      • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

        Admitted drug abuse Lesley?????????
        You talking about Bush and coke??

        Actually, we were talking about modern Xns and church – do you care reading posts completely before responding? This is not a democratic party convention – please keep irrelevant, out of context, comments to yourself…

        God Bless Obama

        Can you elaborate please? How and why? I bless Hussein too. Just like I bless Bush, McCain, Palin, and Pelosi. We are ordered by the Bible to bless our government and leaders.

        However, blessing in this case does not mean agreeing or endorsing!

        but the world is not standing still Lesley
        like the rusted republican party.

        Is the world, in your opinion, moving forward, backward, spinning, or moving in some other pattern…

        If you are referring to abortion, gay, and perversion rights, then you need to study history (and the Bible). You will be surprised to find out that neither of these is new – existed for thousands years, condemned by the Bible, and rejected by both Jewish and Xn ethics.

        • kristian

          Hmm that’s odd, I don’t know of any Christians who call themselves Xn’s. I am a Christian and greatfully so, however I understand that not everyone believes in the same things. So, since God him self doesn’t force anyone to believe in him or follow him then neither can we. Lead by example, not by telling people to turn or burn (as the saying goes). If you tell people the truth, they will know it but it is up to each individual what they do with that truth. You can cause more damage putting people down. Christ spent time with what we would consider not the best people in the world and yet some people choose call names instead of spreading the word and showing God’s love. p.s. people don’t stop sinning just because you tell them they are going to go to hell. How about giving them a reason to want to learn about what’s waiting in the other direction instead?

    • kristian

      Hi Lesley, The sad thing is that it’s not just liberals it has also been supposed conservatives as well. When I was growing up I wasn’t really taught much nor did I care about politics. I was lead to believe by my father that the Republican party was bad and heard it enough that I just assumed it was that way. Well, I’m an adult now and I consider myself a Republican but I don’t really know if that even defines me anymore. I would still say i’m conservative. Actually I would think everybody would want to be, if you took conservatism as what it should stand for. When I think of being a conservative I think of stepping back and looking at things before jumping in. Spending less and allowing people to live their life unhampered by government control. The way I see it is if we use more common sense we need the government less. Instead we have been betrayed by the very people we vote into office to represent us and it’s not just one party or the other. Both party’s of our government have acted criminal in their handling of our affairs and yet it is we that are punished by our own bad judgement of electing these people. I think it’s time for another tea party and not just in Boston this time.

  • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

    Who promised to abolish the US Department of Education and when elected reneged on his promise?

    Who approached the Log Cabin republicans and made a deal with them to promote gay rights and advance GLBT agenda?

    Reagan

  • lesley

    TERESA:
    pulling the GOD CARD?

    You might want to PRAY you are not wrong in your beliefs.
    My point is about OBAMA being raised up like a GOD by you people, but you will NOT deal with anything NEGATIVE about this man.
    Bush did drugs? Drank? Yes and paid the price in humility, repentance and Saying it’s WRONG.
    Obama as usual remininisces about his bad old days. Did not get much sense of remorse from his wasted youth rantings.

    And btw, how would anyone know how much a gram of coke costs??? You seem knowledgable in that regard.

    And again-MY ancestors helped FOUND this country, I personally have a big stake in seeing it does NOT become socialist. AND nothing you liberals will squawk will upset me.

    THE US since ACLU, political correctness, gay agenda–It’s already as debauched as ancient Rome.
    Gay Bishops? Enough already with you libs.

    • TeresaE

      By “you” people.

      This is what I mean.

      You automatically assume because I don’t want YOU to tell ME what my morality has to be that I am a Democrat heathen.

      I’m not. Out of the two parties Republican is the lesser of the two evils, but they are losing that distinction by the day.

      My children are more moral than many of my “Christian” cousins kids. I raise my kids to respect themselves, respect others and their property, work hard-as that is the only way to live and do the right thing because it is the right thing to do-not because of a fear of “hell” or punishments.

      But, I’m no Democrat.

      • http://noaa.gov jimminynix

        The selection process for leadership aspirants in each of our two dominant parties produces the usual suspects, typically uninspired by the visions that compel the population to care about (love) our Nation. Bush and the right-wing of the Republican Party is a perfect example – a disastrously inept leader whose loyal proponents support him as though they have sold their souls for power. I can really appreciate Teresa’s saying “I am not a Democrat” – yet being frustrated by the work of many Republicans. This is also common amongst my friends, friends who have very lofty ideals that they wish the Republican Party really acted from, instead of the harsh expediency of these last 8 years visionless. Maybe what has catalyzed so many non-Republicans about Obama is his standing for an ideal – however revolting many of us may find his notions. Even if he was just posturing, the “posturing” appears as though he believes his own rhetoric – PASSIONATELY. Perhaps the reason these last 8 years were a nightmare for many on the Right-Wing who supported Bush was not Congress nor the Media, but Bush himself not Passionately believing his own Rhetoric – from his Bumper Sticker sound bites like Clint Eastwood affecting “We’ll kick your ass” declarations, to economic policies clearly expanding Federal influence after the previous Federal influence only expanded the profits of the financial meltdowns perpetrators (at the expense of the middle class) I never was “moved” by The MAN.
        Maybe if he was able to look the camera in the eye (sic) and from his gut just say “Your Damn right we want that Oil, and your damn right some of our own fellas are gonna get killed making sure we get it!” I could have honored the guy. My Commander in Chief when I was first enlisted was a Veteran who went to the US Naval Academy, and my 2nd Commander in Chief played a warrior really well as an actor, but Bush (a very troubled military career did he have…) would have ripped my heart wide open and led me back into battle (maybe) if he just declared the truth about his belligerent aims once.

  • JD

    It sickens me that people actually voted for a man that has little or no executive leadership qualities about him. That, along with his controversial affiliations and the fact that he is a liberal democrat, is frightening. I feel that the democratic party, and in particular liberal democrats, are a direct threat to US National security. They are always willing to expand frredom to people around the world but love to restrict ours. Americans are stupid. Did the majority of people vote for him because they believed in his positions on many different topics or did they vote for him simply because he is a black man ?

  • lesley

    I think statistically it is safe to say he got the African American vote strictly on race.
    I think statistically it is safe to say he got the immigrant vote due to hopes of amnesty, welfare etc.
    And we all know he got the liberal vote just because.

    FACT: OBAMA was a member of the NEW PARTY back in his early days in Politics.
    TERESA, this one’s for you–the New Party is a SOCIALIST party.
    He also appointed a woman in the environment advisor capacity who is a socialist.
    SO I think we have Answered the original question.

    • TeresaE

      I DIDN’T VOTE FOR HIM OR ANY OF HIS KIND IN THE ELECTION. OR IN ANY ELECTION.

      Love the assumptions!

      I gave time and money to the Republicans.

      All I said was I am SICK of the two parties bickering over things the government should leave alone. Neither side should set those type rules.

      This is exactly why I firmly believe this country is DOOMED. And NO ONE is willing to step outside their preconceived notions to see reality.

      And I flippin know the new party is a socialist party. But BOTH parties are huge government and socialist now. BOTH. The republicans can no longer take the budget and smaller government high road. They have officially lost that right.

  • Concerned131

    Today, I have become a person with no president that cares what happens to the United States of America. A telfon man that can do no-wrong. Hangs around with terrorists and people who don’t love America and what it stands for. An empty suit with his strings being pulled from people who want to destroy America. I just finished reading an article about Rashid Khalidi, remember him, the person Obama said he did not know very well but had dinner with him and the LA Times had a tape but would not show it. Well he just stated in an article that he has been currently communinicating with Obama and that will probably continue. Here is the website if you would like to read the article. http://wnd.com:80/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86610 Yesterday I watched a documentary called the Obession: Radical Islam’s war Against the West. If you can find it, watch it, it will make you understand what is about to happen to America. I got it thru Netflix. The JIdhad are here and they planned on putting someone into the greatest office in the world, THE WHITE HOUSE. Well that day is here and GOD HELP US ALL. We need to unite and fight this all the way and knowing that he is talking with Khalid, someone who just lived in the neighborhood makes me worried. This started with Hitler but continued thru the Palestinians who want to kill America, Great Britain and Isareal because they believe in one God and that is Allha. Today is a new beginning to a way of life that I never thought would come to this great country, we were the land of the free and the land where dreams can be made. We need to stay focused on what is about to happen so we can stopped it. We need the jerks that we put in office to listen to us, not them. They need to be told that they took an oath to serve the people not themselves. America is a great country and we need no more bailouts. We are turning the corner on the economy and if he keeps printing money and handing it out to these banks and companies we will never finish turning the corner but back up. We need our elected officers to understand this and let them know we know what is going on. So today I ask you all to stand united because we will get back what we lost today.

  • sue

    well here i go opening up a new can of worms but this is just my opinion……….
    as we all know America is run by certain of the ELITE, the RICH elite and how they have become rich is very questionabe but nontheless they are rich. obama had this election before he even ran……..”they” had already decided who was going to be president so really he is just their “yes” man, he is and will always be controlled by the rich elite of the world. Where do you think he got all the money to basically take over already……..no matter who would have run against him they would have lost because all the voting in the world would have not have changed their agenda. It’s all a set-up. I know i sound like a “fatalist” but this has went on since day one……….what happens now is entirely up to God……….HE and HE alone has the FINAL say! We do need to pray as we have never prayed before and see if we can once more beg and plead for the mercy of almighty God to save us from this “untoward” generation and the rulers of this world.

    • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

      I think you are partially correct.

      The truth is that there is no a single organization that controls it all – there are multiple powerful interest groups…

      We need to pray, yes, but also do more than praying.

      What would happen to Europe if Martel and his allies were just praying in 732 AD?

      • sue

        i understand what you’re saying but we can’t all go to battle (literally) as Martel did, so the ones of us who can pray need to do just that. It’s going to be a battle alright and we need to be prepared for battle.

      • http://n/a Bill

        Nikolai, how right you are.

  • David Floyd

    See the below link as to why our founding fathers created a Republic instead of a socialist or democracy:

    http://www.flixxy.com/political-systems.htm

  • vonna husby

    My ancestors help found this country. It took only a couple hundred years and we have screwed it up. I agree with all of you. But I blame myself – I did not fight hard enough for the ideals that my ancestors treasured. This is a wake up call to everyone and
    especially myself to start speaking out more –

    Remember – our ancestors were outnumbered yet fought as patriots for freedom
    together. So let’s stay together and fight for those ideals again in 2012. These
    ideals are worth fighting for and we can do it. Freedom of the press is not dead
    with Fox news and for that I am thankful. It is a start.

    • kristian

      My ancestors helped found this country as well, I am of American Indian descent and Irish as well as British. My grand parents on my mom’s side were full blooded Cherokee. The original settlers came here to escape persecution and came for noble reasons however that didn’t change the fact that many natives were killed to fulfill our forefathers dreams. We started with a bloody beginning and I am scared that we will end the same. I am proud of this country and we may not be perfect but we are here none the less. We can make our nation better, I just don’t know if it’s too late or not. We are no more special than any other country that we cannot fail, if we don’t return to our principles and and stop letting the people we have elected do their own will instead of ours, then we will end up where many others have ended up, IN HISTORY!

      • anonymous

        Everyone is a freakin Cherokee.

  • N. Dalla

    Let’s see if I have this straight.

    Milton Friedman and his Chicago School of economic theory has essentially dominated domestic policy discourse in the United States for thirty years (“Greed is Good”). It has poisoned various economies around the world. In the mad dash to make corporatize everything on the planet, we now have the biggest economic collapse since the 1930s. Yet SOCIALISM becomes the great satan.

    Right — it’s those dmaned evil socialists causing all of our problems.

    What particularly revolting is to see all the Wall Street types who preach the virtues of the free market now with their hands out begging for billions. Let them fail, I say. They dig their own graves. Let them now lay there.

    • http://noaa.gov James

      Your pointed post deserves attention. “Let them fail” is exactly what the free-market requires yet, our “Leaders” have so much invested in the perpetuation of these entities that they insist that it is in all of our best interests to pay for their survival.

      Imagine if some guy knocked on your door and said “Hi – I work at a large multinational corporation devoted to maximizing profit by manipulating the worlds various financial structures and we are having a bit of a rough patch, please give me all of your savings and assetts for the next 40 years so we can continue our work – it is truly in your best interests”!? Your post is intriguing and thought provoking, especially as you point out how demonized the word “socialism” is, while at the same time – the free-market disciples are the ones begging for our aid – (demanding it more like…). Thanks for your contribution.

  • Ernest

    After hearing President Obama’s inaugural speach, a must admit that he has lofty goals and ambitions. Getting Congress to work together for the good of the nation will not happen as long as Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi remain the leaders of their respective Houses of Congress. Pelosi is already poisoning the well with her partisan politics by:

    Changing house rules to prevent the Rebpublicans from bringing Democrat bills back to the House Floor for further discussion and/or amendment, essentially shutting them entirely out of the process. If this doesn’t change, the best Republican response would be to walk out en-masse until this new rule is changed. The Dems can then be %100 responsible for the bills they are about to jam down the nation’s throat.
    Fairness Doctrine, should more apporpriately be labelled the “Unfairness Doctrine”. Will effectively eliminate voices of conservative opposition on the radio airwaves.
    The Card Check Rule: Eliminates the secret ballot from the process of workers deciding whether to unionize their workplace. Will permit fellow employess and union goons to know in advance the employees’ approval/disapproval. The room for abuse is huge.

    Based on President Obama’s close association with communists and other radicals throughout his lifetime, I intuit that he is a socialist at heart. Couple that with the Fairness Doctrine Card Check Rule, and redistribution of wealth, we are really talking about the new POTUS and Congress speeding more toward fascism than socialism.

  • Angie

    Pres. Obama has stated that he does NOT like the US Constitution as it is and wants it changed. It is talk like this that scares me! Check into his limited Senatorial voting record and he voted FOR the Bush Administration policies including supporting the Patriot Act. He voted last fall for the Bail Out Package that Democrats and REPUBLICANS screamed for. As president, he wants to do MORE of the same. I don’t see this has “change” — it is just moving down that SAME path only faster and faster. There are cases before the US Supreme Court in which now Pres. Obama is named and yet, Mr. Obama, willingly met privately with the US Supreme Court Justice. This SMELLS! Two lawyers meeting behind closed doors when cases are pending before the superior judge — can we say “VIOLATION OF LEGAL ETHICS” (avoid even the appearance on appropriate conduct!)

    Obama destroyed his records as an Illinois Senator so we don’t know anything about that time yet he used that as part of his experience. He attended several colleges and relied upon those for his qualifications to be president — but he sealed those records too. WHAT will he let the people see whom he claims he wants to lead?

    We do know he has close ties — both personal and professionally — with others who have highly dubious pasts and current conduct problems. Look at his recent pick for the US Dept of Commerce, Gov. Bill Richardson who is under federal investigation for allegations of ‘pay to play’ in the state of New Mexico.

    How many of his staff members have dual citizenship status? His Chief of Staff is dual citizenship with Israel/USA and to whom will his 100% loyalty be? Richardson refused to tell folks if he too was a dual citizenship holder between Mexico/USA.

    I want LESS government not more! I want to see the US House and US Senate give themselves 50% pay CUTS! Show some leadership. How about Pres. Obama refusing to accept his presidential salary? (Gov. Mitt Romney did so as gov. of Mass. and promised to do so if elected US President) This is an opportunity to SERVE..how about using Pres. Washington as a role model?

    God Bless America and preserve our Declaration of Independence, US Constitution, and Bill of Rights.

  • http://kdavis0071@verizon.net keith davis

    we know that jesus warned us of things to come in matt:24. paul warned us of the same thing. thair will be false prophest,s meaning false teaching in the churches. this is happening in the big churches. it,s all about money. jesus is left out. thair are undercover police hearing what the 10% of thoues who are still preaching the truth.the goverment in the u.s. want to keep thies people quiet.most of thies goverment enployies are in the freemason,s. thay have prepared for a one world order system. carter, cliton, burshes, obama ,kerry, al gore are part of this. thair god is not the god of the bible but, the god of this world.

  • http://mail.ru Nikolai Petrov

    What if rapture won’t happen until the year 3009 AD?

    Xns are paralyzed by the idea that we need to only pray and bless…

    We need to be more pro-active…

    • kristian

      I believe in the rapture too but i also look at the fact that the bible says “The generation that sees Israel become a nation, will not pass away before the Lord return” and since no one who is alive now would still be alive in 3009 then I’d say that point was probably moot. Also, we’re supposed to live our lives the same irregardless of when the Lord is supposed to return even if it was a thousand years from now or even tomorrow. Always live you life in the light and you’ll be ready. :)

      • http://noaa.gov James

        Jesus never spoke of damning anyone who didn’t love him, he spoke of loving everyone – even if they damned him, yet so many people who profess to love Jesus spend all their time extracting damning quotes from texts that were devoted to everything else except the words of Jesus (The Old Testament – Revelations, even Paul’s letters, etc…). It is chilling to witness how so many who profess devotion to Jesus, devote so much of themselves to Words written with a complete disregard for Jesus, and it is easy to spot – as soon as they start yakking about punishment and damnation and who is under Satan’s influence and the end of the world – and as soon as they contradict kindness, compassion, forgiveness and tolerance – and LOVE – especially “love”. Imagine if every person claiming fondness for Jesus stopped hating and just loved the way he loved. If someone can show me the direct quote of Jesus saying to people “If you don’t claim me as your salvation you will burn in hell for all eternity” then I will be shown proof of religions monstrousness – I suspect most quotes will actually be more about finding truth, love, healing, wholeness and forgiveness – like “release from sin”.

        Do individuals who aspire to live in a nation under biblical law ever read the details of all those laws ((Deuteronomy, Leviticus the whole Pentateuch or Torah) – its a survival manual for keeping a tribe intact through a trying time of bondage and wandering in the desert – and it is full of juicy contradictions – hence the argumentative pleasures known by talmudic scholars, and Revelations – yikes – try reading that whole psychedelic rant without sensing somebody is laughing at our clinging to every shade of obtuseness… You want to live ina religious nation, join the Taliban.

        • kristian

          Hi James, Not sure what your comment is supposed to be exactly, if you’re attacking me saying my comment is damning somebody or not? I was replying to the persons comment above mine about the rapture. In my comment I was basically saying that I believe in the rapture and it doesn’t matter when it happens, you should not be scared and be on extra good behavior just because you think it’s tomorrow or in a distant future. I personally belive you should be a good and kind person every day and the whole world wouldn’t be so screwed up. Of course people aren’t always going to be in a good mood and that’s ok, stuff happens. However kindness begets kindness, usually. I don’t care if somebody else believes in the rapture or not, that was not my point and I don’t condemn anyone who doesn’t believe what I believe. I feel everybody has the right to think and feel however they want. If somebody believes what I believe then great, it just gives me somebody else to talk to that has that thing in common with me. Like wise if someone doesn’t profess to be a christian then that is fine too. I have many friends that are on both sides of the fence and I love them all just the same. It isn’t my place to condemn or damn anybody. It isn’t my place to say “You better turn or burn!” I have my beliefs and I share them with people and if they want to hear them then that’s great but I don’t shove it down their throat. Just as if they believe a certain thing that I may not agree with, I listen and do with the information what I feel appropriate. You can always learn something from what somebody else has to say, whether you agree with them or not. As for what the bible says about any certain subject, I am not and do not profess to be an expert on the scriptures. I’ve read different scriptures that say thing like “You can only enter unto the father through the son” that’s not the exact wording but you can do a google and get the exact wording for what the scripture says. Also, I don’t personally live under biblical law, I live under the law of the land and under what my faith leads me to believe God would want me to do, using the bible for inspiration and insight. I do however take and believe everything the bible say, which is my right as a human being. Yet I would never try and force my belief on you or any other person. As for loving like Jesus does, yes we should, he loves everyone and spent time with people that a lot of people these days would term as scum, hookers, theives, and that kind of thing. However he did admonish them to turn away from sin and he spoke about what leading a sinful life would get you. Again, I don’t know the exact scriptures but you can google them like I said before. The point is I’m not religious, I consider myself a Christian. Being religious can cause a lot of problem and Jesus didn’t say to set up a religion anyway. As for the taliban, I obviously disagree with their methods that they choose to use to, shall we say, get others to submit or to follow their belief system. That to me is wrong but as far as what koran says, I may not agree with it but that is their right to believe it. The only problem I have with any body is if they try to force a person to believe something and if they dont then they try to kill them. That is wrong in any faith. Everybody has the right to free will and to freely choose their own path, because in the in when we die we’ll find out if what we believed was right or not and then we’ll each have our own answers.

  • Karl Sui Juris A.

    To all of you go to http://www.Zeitgeist. com and Zeitgeist Addendum watch the movie.
    It’s free, and learn what is and will happen to our once Great Country-America.

  • Trollwhacker

    Angie seems concerned about dual citizenship, she shouldn’t be. It’s a rational response to psychotic government. This has been a socialist country for years, it’s just that no one wants to admit it. The new administration, much like the old administration, wants to continue turning “citizens” into their personal livestock, to be milked or slaughtered at their convenience. America is gone. It has been replaced by Amerika. We can not go back, we must move forward. When more than 40% of the voting population is on the government teet there will be no return to the “good old days”. We must learn to fend for ourselves. No future government will care about our “rights” no matter what party is in power. Power to the Individual!

  • Jeff D.

    It is inauguration day, and I would like very much to say it is a day to forget labels and differences, which it is, but while I hope and pray for Obama to be a worthy President and leader of our country, I fear for the worst.

    I am still in the dark as to the specifics of Obama's stimulus program, but the typical Democrat solution of throwing money at problems rarely if ever works (as proven by history time and time again), and massive bailouts leave me very nervous about our country's prospects.

    And in answer to the original question, yes, I believe President (aka Commisar) Obama and the liberals of the Democratic Party (and all the Republicans who also support the bailouts) have us on a very dangerous course, which very well may lead us to becoming the U.S.S.A. (United Socialist States of America).

  • http://n/a Allan Bassett

    I hear this ‘bad’ word “socialism”, not really sure why it’s bad other than any extreme might not be healthy? I think about other manipulative slogans including “axis of evil” “war on terror” and personal ironic favorite “fighting for democracy” and understand the psychological effect and profit from stirring emotion. I look back at the last 8 years turned upside down by this programing and corruption and failed Friedman experiment in Free Market Economy and hope that in the next 8 years logic will prevail over emotion. Cut the crap and get to the bottom of these soundbites and we can advance civilly for a change responsibly as a species.

    • kristian

      Hey Allan, well, I think we have been conditioned to believe socialism is bad and the majority of reasons are well sounded. I have friends who are from the former USSR and if they say it was bad then I believe them. They have told me things that they and their families had to endure that none of my family or friends have had to go through. There were bread lines here in the depression but for my friends that was a normal thing and it wasn’t back decades ago either, it was during my life time and that is scary. I want the right to choose my insurance and my doctors and my job and not have to live in fear that you’re gonna get capped if you say the wrong thing about the government. Though I’m not sure we’re so far from that happening here. I hear everybody complaining and yet our country has still taken the path that we have ended up on. Now that’s what’s truely scary, that everybody says this isn’t how they wanted things to end up yet here we are. What does that tell you? It makes me question myself and wonder if some of those conspiracy theories might not be so far off base. It’s kinda like the Green thing, I’m all happy to make the planet better but something is wrong when saving the planet means some of us have to leave. I really fear that will be the next green thing, let’s get rid of some people and we’ll have less pollution and less impact on the environment. I can easily see people plotting that in the back room somewhere. Pretty soon you’ll go to prison if you break wind.

  • 1776 repeat

    The truth is that the U.S. has been in the hands of those who espouse socialism/ communism/collectivism for the better part of the last 100 years. The Federal Reserve was established, along with its partner, the Federal Income Tax in 1913. (Both feed on each other).

    Remember the LEAGUE Of Nations ? ( Since American history, if taught at all, is decidedly leftist in its content, getting worse all the time the kids have no concept of the history of the country and its ideals, which our founders fought to establish to grant true freedom to its citizens.)

    Then came FDR, the incestuous relationship with the Federal Reserve, by which FDR STOLE THE GOLD BELONGING TO THE PEOPLE. As is almost always the case, the depression which the Federal Reserve’s Bernanke now admits THEY CAUSED, was finally ended by the Second World War , during which FDR and his cohorts planned the next version of the League of Nations, which became the beginning of the loss of sovereignty of America. The Communist spy, Alger Hiss, was FDR’s appointed editor of this planned UN Constitution.

    The UN and its backers have had in mind the takeover of the US for all this time, and have pursued the ” 2 steps forward, 1 step back plan of progress” The UN wants to rule the world their way, which apparently is a grand version of the Chinese form of communism, where the government owns all business, which operates under the control of the government as a “PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP”. How many such entities have been planned and created
    lately ? Socialism is the instrument of a gradual, unnoticed form of control, with the added wrinkle of seemingly private enterprise injected.

    We have been more and more socialistic with every year that passes, and the latest “financial crisis” is the result of the central bankers’ version of Karl Marx’s platform to institute communism. 2 of the 10 tenants concern the CREATION OF A CENTRAL BANK, WHICH ISSUES CREDIT, BASED ON A “RESERVE CURRENCY”.

    COMMUNISM DOES NOT RECOGNIZE PERSONAL PROPERTY, THUS THEY CAN STEAL YOUR STUFF AND GIVE IT TO THOSE THEY DEEM BETTER DESERVING THAN YOU.

    Having created a world where the currency is controlled by the Central banksters, they can just print away, by computer entry, and control the world monetarily. They have created this latest storm, and they are taking over the banks in the name of the Treasury of the US, at the behest of the powers that really own the central bank of the United States, the United States Federal Reserve, a privately owned cartel which makes tons of money by loaning money to the country at the behest of the politicians, while the FEDERAL RESERVE GETS BILLION OF DOLLARS OF INTEREST ON SAID LOANS PER YEAR. Trillions of dollars have been stolen during this latest FED instituted power and money grab.

    Retirees have lost their investments which are needed to pay their bills and buy groceries. The 401 K plans have been one of the greatest loss of value, which future retirees planned to use for their retirement, and the jobs have been sent out of the country at the expense of the taxpayer for the last 35 years, so that they have basically brought the country to its knees.

    We are seeing the final effects of a fiat currency, controlled to create booms and busts, ending in inflation which has accumulated for 95 years resulting in the same fall as every other fiat currency in history.

    NOW THEY ARE GOING TO OWN MORE AND MORE OF THE COUNTRY THROUGH THE BANKS. THIS IS SOCIALISM /COMMUNISM COLLECTIVISM, WHICH ENRICHES THOSE IN POWER TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE ORDINARY CITIZENS. Our elected officials are front men for this enterprise, which decides who will be running for office, provides the money to campaign, controls the TV and press, assures that the elected ones will be beholden to those that own the gold, which was stolen in 1933 from the public.

    • http://n/a Allan Bassett

      Funny, what you’ve described sounds like the effects of free market capitalism.
      I’m not for socialism. I believe that socialism breeds mediocracy. Now when you add Communism to the equation I’m lost. To think anyone in North America would support communism seems downright silly and since our foundation is democracy and freedom, flipping the world around any more than what Bush did for the last 8 years seems quite unlikely. But pitting capitalism against socialism, both failed experiments, does nothing more than scare people. I’m for looking outside those boxes for a different scheme moving forward.

  • az_conservative

    Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama: It doesn’t matter. They all work for the same people (not the citizens). Once, our government was endowed with authority by the consent of the governed, and they served We the People. That hasn’t been the case for decades. We will wake up soon, liberal and conservative alike, and will realize that our government has betrayed us. By then, it may be too late to stop them.

    Thanks to McShame, only the rich can run for office. The uber-rich (Soros, Buffett, etc.) can put whomever they want in whatever office they wish, including the White House. The people have been taken out of the equation. Realize that it doesn’t matter whether there’s a “D” or an “R” after the name of the pseudo-elected leaders in DC: THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE. They will serve their money masters.

    Americans had better realize that empty designations of Democrat, Socialist, Independent, Libertarian or Republican are irrelevant. None of them represent America, nor will any stand up for the Constitutional republic of our Founders. Was it perfect? No, but Earthly perfection is a Utopian pipe dream. America as founded is a damn sight better than anything else ever tried, and she is in mortal danger from those elected and sworn to her defense and that of her people.

    We can do nothing to change the past, but we have power over the future. Stop looking back, and face forward, for the snake about to bite us is on the path ahead.

    One day soon, everyone will be forced to make a choice. Are you one of the 97% who will meekly submit to the injustices, silently bear the ever-increasing cost of treasure, security, hope and liberty, and quietly hide as the hordes descend to feed on the carcass of America. Will you consign yourselves and your posterity to slavery and oppression, or are you one of the 3% who will fight it? We’ve been here before. The year was 1775.

  • az_conservative

    Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, Obama: It doesn’t matter. They all work for the same people (not the citizens). Once, our government was endowed with authority by the consent of the governed, and they served We the People. That hasn’t been the case for decades. We will wake up soon, liberal and conservative alike, and will realize that our government has betrayed us. By then, it may be too late to stop them.

    Thanks to McShame, only the rich can run for office. The uber-rich (Soros, Buffett, etc.) can put whomever they want in whatever office they wish, including the White House. The people have been taken out of the equation. Realize that it doesn’t matter whether there’s a “D” or an “R” after the name of the pseudo-elected leaders in DC: THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE. They will serve their money masters.

    Americans had better realize that empty designations of Democrat, Socialist, Independent, Libertarian or Republican are irrelevant. None of them represent America, nor will any stand up for the Constitutional republic of our Founders. Was it perfect? No, but Earthly perfection is a Utopian pipe dream. America as founded is a damn sight better than anything else ever tried, and she is in mortal danger from those elected and sworn to her defense and that of her people.

    We can do nothing to change the past, but we have power over the future. Stop looking back, and face forward, for the snake about to bite us is on the path ahead.

    One day soon, everyone will be forced to make a choice. I wish it were avoidable, but I don’t see how at this late stage. The choice: Are you one of the 97% who will meekly submit to the injustices, silently bear the ever-increasing cost of treasure and liberty, and quietly hide as the hordes descend to feed on the carcass of America. Will you consign yourselves and your posterity to slavery and oppression, or are you one of the 3% who will fight it? We’ve been here before. The year was 1775.

  • az_conservative

    Sorry about the double-post–got an error as I was posting the first time then it didn’t show up so I tried again.

  • Citizen

    40 years of Reganite conservate economic policies are putting us into the 2nd Republican depression: ant-govt deregulation, anti-family so-called free trade treaties, tax breaks for sending jobs overseas, tax breaks while borrowing for no-win wars, phoney drug wars, tax breaks for billionaires while war is waged against family wage jobs. I voted straight Republican until the shrub’s second election. Obama is not perfect, that is for sure. But a far cry from the phony patriotism of the last 8 years. McCain gave only lip-service to care of veterans, while voting numerous times against funding veteran’s health needs. Thankfully, Obama has already ordered the pentagon to plan for a speedy withdrawal from Irag. Thankfully, a person with a cooler head now is Commander-In-Chief. Cheers!!

    • kristian

      And so you think we are going to pull out of Iraq and tada!! things will be going perfect over there. Firstly I highly doubt that we will be out of Iraq in the immediate future. Presidents make a lot of promises and keep very few, no matter which party they are from. As for Obama, different doesn’t mean better, it just means different. Just as with all past presidents the honeymoon will end and people will be unhappy.

      • Citizen

        Please note: nowhere in my original message did I say or imply anything about things will be perfect in Iraq. The people of Iraq want us out. Time for us to lead by example instead of the sword!! We have plenty to take care of right here in the good ole USA. As far as I am concerned, everything I complained about in my first post is next to treason. Very few in either party is truly America First, as the Repubs tried to make themselves out to be. Oh, I am sure I will be disappointed with some of Obama’s actions. But my sense is that my disappointments with Obama will be less than if the other guy had taken office. Time will tell.

        • kristian

          I don’t want someone to be president because they would be the lesser of two evils. I want someone to be president because they actually want to improve our country and make this a better nation and not by putting everything in the kind, tender loving hands of our government. As for Iraq, I know a few people from there that live her now and still have family there and they actually say that they are glad Saddam is out of power. One persons husband was murdered by his henchmen and they are glad that America came to try and help. SO, no they all aren’t wanting us out, I do agree though that we need to leave Iraq but they need to do it in a responsible way. Leaving a vaccum there that makes it possible for terrorist to take over would be a bigger disaster than what has happened so far.

  • Robert

    Foist of all, 2 all those concerned wit tha spell checkin and errors of gramma by posters……interpret it….such smart people responding to mis spelt words is a joke ! There, their, they’re now …take a chilled pill and settle down. Bush and his admin took us down to the level where we are at today….and we all got used to it! Now that a different foot is in the new shoes of governing this nation…..maybe it’s time to kick some butt and work for the common everyday US citizens instead of the especially interested self centered among us ……or just continue to bitch bitch bitch for the next 8 years.

    • Citizen

      Well put, Robert. Seems that too many on this list too interested only in their own interests. Seems like there is also an all or nothing attitude. For example, Kristin accused me of saying everything would be perfect in Iraq upon our pullout, and that I said all Iraqis wanted us out. Puleese. And then she went on to cry about everything going into govt hands. Her use of “perfect” , “all” and “everything” serves to try to distract from the underlying point. Just goes to show what reactionaries will do when the truth is told about what conservative economic policies have done to this country. Without reasonable regulation, we would devolve into the very rich and the very poor. That is a great legacy for future generations.

  • Sheila Salomonh

    In my opinion first we need to know what is the definition of Socialism, Communism, Dictator Regimen, and Imperialisms in Philosophy. Once you are able to see the difference between the concepts you are able to determine which way we are going.
    I don’t think so we are going to socialism and beside it Socialism, communism and Imperialisms all have a lot of things in common, positive and negative, the only one that is not good for anyone is a dictatorial regimen, commonly called by a dictator as socialism revolution, which is not at all, it is a mask to cover the true intentions.

    • http://n/a Allan Bassett

      I totally agree Sheila.

  • Helen

    History has shown that even if we end racial discrimination, until you can end oppression of the poor which is partly the byproduct of corrupt unregulated capitalist; you will always have an unjust economic system.

    The Repulicans wanted unregulated Capitalism and look where we are, corporations screaming bail me out while the greedy CEO’s parachute out with 40 million, while watching millions of employees and children go homeless and hungry. What would be wrong with attempting to pursue a more just and sound economic system?

    Our founders created a Democracy which gave people the right to vote for leaders, the Declaration of Independence gave them the Right to Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. It doesn’t say what economic system should be used. If the new Leaders were leading toward some form of a Democratic Socialism which they have never said they were it doesn’t mean private business would end. No leader has suggested US become communist! Literature shows Communism and socialism aren’t the same, that is a scare tactic! Democracy in Gaza and Iraq gave people the right to vote, but it did not mean the leaders would be good or the citizens better off economically! That certainly does not mean democracy is bad!

    The rusty republicans and some others supported a form of distorted socialism called “corporate welfare”. That is what the Bank bailout was. Capitalism is only as good as the private business administrators! Some that are good and some bad.
    The public school system is a form of Socialism used by the US. It is paid for through taxes. I bet most of those who replied to this, attended a public school, and many of are economically successful. Without the partly socialist government educations system you would be on the streets and ignorant.

    The Swedes are not communist but use socialisms in their government. Cuba, despite all its terrible problems is recognized as having an excellent socialist heath care system. History books say the US and foreign Capitalist helped Batista who was Castro’s predecessor. Batista was known for torturing citizens, being corrupt, and taking bribes from Capitalist Businessmen . No Leader I know of has suggested ending Capitalism, which also has a Dark Side, but those rusty republicans don’t like to talk about it!

    • http://n/a Allan Bassett

      Well put Helen.

    • kristian

      The rusty Republicans were the ones who wanted the bailout? lol, yeah and not the Dems? I guess that’s why so many Democrats voted for it? I always vote for what I don’t want too. NOT! I think you need a reality check. It was people on both sides that supported it. That’s why they both should be held responsible and be rewarded with pink slips.

      • Helen

        I stated the rusty republican and “others” indicating more than one party was involved in passing the Bailout, but the fact is the Deregulation of Business took place under a Majority Run Republican Congress who would over-ride any presidential veto they could and helped to cause al lot of the current economic problems.

        • http://noaa.gov jimminynix

          It takes courage to post the views you expressed on this website Helen. So many of my Republican friends believe that their parties servitude to the ruling wealthy interests are in alignment with their own desires for personal prosperity, no matter how harmful to their own middle class reality so much of the republican led legislation actually is, and so many of my democrat leaning friends think their party is the middle classes hero, even as their democratic leaders serve the same rich masters almost as slavishly as the republicans do.

          But to the respondent to Helen – to blame Dems for the bailouts is just plain insane. Of course the Dems are a party to this disaster but to discover the true source of Banking Deregulation and criminally inept oversight you really do not have to look beyond the Reagan Bush team that really set out to make the Rich much, much Richer and they did not claim otherwise – they were honest about it – remember “Trickle Down”….?!

        • kristian

          I didn’t say the Democrats were to blame, I blamed both parties. In all fairness it is the voting public when it comes right down to it, who continue to vote some of the same people into office, term after term, even when they have already been proven to not care about what the people they represent are wanting to happen. Also banking deregulation isn’t the only thing that caused our current problem, people that knew they wouldn’t be able to pay for a loan if rates went up and still got them anyway was also a part of the problem, right along with underhanded loan pusher and banks and the government were the causes for the situation. Then there is the housing problems that happened because individuals in both parties trying to cover up the problem, which in turn turned into a situation that snowballed to a point that it affected the entire country.

  • lesley

    ok Sheila, so since the Dems are once again determined to repeal #22 of the Constitution and get rid of term limits? JUST in time for their newly crowned King O, I suspect we are heading towards a dictatorship.
    AND if they succeed in their other plan-repeal our Right to Bear Arms? WELL then I feel confident in saying we will bypass socialism and go straight to Fascism.

    • kristian

      If they try to take our guns then I think there will be another civil war. I for one don’t own a gun but i’d be willing to take up one to defend my rights and my country from people that want to destroy it.

  • lesley

    how does one go about creating a 56 million man/woman march? :) If Farrakhan could accomplish the one million man march…there are many more people who stand for AMERICA, not one color we are.

  • lesley

    oops, meant not WHAT color we are.

  • Colin_P

    The CONSERVATIVES just ended a 8 year reign and look at the shape YOU FOX ZEALOTS LEFT IT IN. You want the truth, look yourself in the mirror and see what a joke you all have become. NOBODY IS LISTENING ANY MORE. YOU DONT LIKE YOUR PRESIDENT AND WHO THE PEOPLE ELECTED SO WHAT! What a great country it is to hear people who profess such bravdo and patriotism to hope and wish for thier commander in chief’s failure for the good of thier agenda. By the way these comments sound You all talk as if Liberals ran the country for the last 8 years!? THE BAILOUT comes from the BUSH administration so why all of the talk about SOCIALISM????? George BUSH PUSHED IT….
    stop with the cheerleading and go back to work since you profess to work so hard.

    Your not relevant anymore and never will be. Thats the truth.

    • kristian

      I don’t see a lot of people on here cheerleading for Bush, and I don’t think it’s that people want Obama to fail, it’s that not everyone thinks that all of his plans are in the best interest of this country. I don’t think he is a evil man personally, I just think that some of the things he has planned will cause even more problems, it’s not just one person that causes all of the problems, it’s all of us at some level that are responsible for the things we have done or have not done. We are all connected on some level and just because you don’t set out to hurt others doesn’t mean that you don’t. Also people on both sides pushed for the “BAIL OUT”, McCain and Obama included. Conservatives are relevant and so are Liberals and everyone in between, that’s part of the problem trying to cut out one persons right to their opinions is not what this country was founded on. Also if nobody’s listening then why are you or others commenting on what they say or feel?

    • James Griffin

      WHAT EVER YOU ARE SMOKING PLEASE SEND ME SOME SO I CAN FIT IN WITH THE REST OF YOU NUT CASES.

    • http://foxnews uthink

      BO – Soros’s yes man. Skilled in deceiving the week minded. He preyed on students who don’t pay a lot taxes and of course 99.9% of the black population, most whom never voted before and couldn’t event name his running mate; Not to mentions they have no idea of this issues at hand. These are the ones who got this President elected. So whats your point?

    • Michelle

      Colin, spoken like a true America haten Liberal – there was NOTHING conservative about the Bush administration and as far as the Bail Out, Obama 10 folded it , how smart was that? what is wrong with you? Obama was not elected ACORNE, Affirmative Action and Communist just like you got him in there as well as 99.9% of the black population, most whom never voted before and couldn’t event name his running mate just like Uthink says – your just repeating all of the radical left wing rhetoric that you hear. you’ll see who is really listening to us when the Obama administration goes down in flames like it should. Obama is a communist at heart, his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis who was a member of the Old Moscow Communist Party USA in Hawaii. What dont you get??????

    • Rob

      Colin P, I am going to let you in on something.
      You are very right about the financial mess the Republicans left us in. They blew their budgets, they shredded the constitution, and expanded the size of government, and grew federal authority.

      Now watch the Democrats do exactly the same thing.

      There is no actual difference between the 2 parties. What they claim they stand for, and what they actually do are 2 different things.

      They both do the same thing, overspend, expand federal authority, shred the constitution, ect.

      It is entirily pointless to get caught up in the blame game. Its a distraction, that keeps you looking away from one half of the problem.

      Think of the 2 parties as one party. 2 sides of the same bad penny. Yes bailouts came from the Bush Administration. Then some more came from the Obama Administration. And now another bailout is in the works from the Obama Administration. Its the same nonsense.

      Lose your party loyalty, register independent, and vote for nobodys who actually have character and ZERO experience. I have been an independent for 25 years.

  • http://www.AmicusCapitalServices.com Bill Tilley

    We are not heading toward Socialism, the pendulum is just swinging back a bit after going to far in the other direction and maybe it will swing a little to far for a moment but it always swings back.

    • James Griffin

      YOU CAN’T BE SERIOUS IN THE STATEMENT YOU ARE MAKING? HAVE YOU BEEN ASLEEP FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS/

    • Rob

      Bill Tilley, no we are not HEADED toward socialism, we have already been in socialism for a long time. Social security, medicare, welfare, our currency system.

      Our money? Yep. Socialism transfers wealth and power from the people to the state. When you have unbacked fiat currency as we do now, a dollar devaluation reduces the “wealth” tied up in the dollar. It reduces the dollar’s purchasing power. Its the same as stealing from your bank account. It transfers your labor, and therefore your wealth, which is represented in dollar amounts in your bank account, out of your possession. You still have the same dollar amounts in the account, but it now buys far less. Its the same as stealing your labor.

      Nice huh?

      And whats with all these new Czar positions???
      I thought Czars were from Russia. Dictators here? In America?

  • http://noaa.gov James

    To debate language – divining our shared experience of even just our reaction to one word – “Socialism” is fun to watch. Imagine if we were to dig deeper into our reactions to words like “Liberty” “Freedom” “Responsibility” and contrast those insights with words like “Community” “Nation” “Neighborhood” and “Family”…? That seems like to me the crux of our difficulty – We know that “Governing” is serving the needs of the governed – but what service and what needs do we want our elected representatives to legislate and manage? I have a strong libertarian impulse which trusts individuals to work together with other individuals to create wonderful shared potentials of community experience – with or without legislated mandates – and a healthy mistrust of that other impulse to pass rules and laws and government micromanaged programs to make sure our visions of what is good and right and ideal somehow are forced into actual existence by spending monies and telling people how to contribute to this vision by obedience to an authority that seems to have lost respect for individual choice and personal responsibility.

    I do not like to see people struggle and suffer as they work hard and play by the millions of rules, while the elite managers secretly and deceptively stack the deck in their own favor so egregiously that they create a devalued currency and simultaneously demand to hold dominion over our most private choices – like what we put in our own bodies and what plants we grow on our own property. As long as we have a built in reflexive reaction that sounds like “That should be against the law!” whenever someone is doing something that we don’t like – yet that something does not directly harm the person or property of any non-consenting other, then we are letting our old-testament punish them instead of forgiving them impulse advance the role of big-government to meddle and invade and obstruct personal liberty and freedom in such a way culturally that the natural extension of that impulse is to do the same economically – to lean on our government to decide the fate of what businesses survive and what businesses fail, instead of letting a true free-market decide.

    I assert that to deny the advance of this economic socialism that most respondents here detest – we must also turn back the oppressive tide of smothering mothering personal liberty invading impulses that manifest in food prohibitions, drug prohibitions, religious prohibitions, sexual prohibitions, gambling prohibitions and all the other signs of minding your neighbors business better than you mind your own – especially when it costs us trillions of dollars and creates a police state where fear of disturbing the punishing classes is a central component of many individuals lives. Yes! – Those individuals may be our least favorite types of human beings, but if they are simply trying to discover for themselves what kind of experience of being alive they want to create and not harming the person or property of any non-consenting other, than why is it so difficult for us to stop punishing them?

    Prohibition created massive corruption and organized crime largess, prohibition created widespread disregard for the law, prohibition was laughed at by the rich and a real burden of hardship for the poor, yet we talk right here about avoiding economic socialism without acknowledging the obvious connection of our impulse to control others and our impulse to severely punish (criminalize) these others when they resist our control. Until we allow true individual liberty to our fellow citizens we will always be headed for more government control of every aspect of our lives – including the economic aspect – they cannot be separated.

  • Nikki

    Its a good thing America is headed towards socialism because the system of government we have does not work. The people need a guaranteed minimum income; enough to pay for their necessities, free and nationalized health care and prescription benefits, and bigger social security and disabilitiy benefits. Those who are against it and don’t like it, too bad. Because it’s going to happen whether you like it or not.

    • Naomi

      Nikki – Be prepared to never have anything in your life, then, except the minimum -and then maybe not even that. Also be prepared to lose your freedoms to decide things for yourself. The government will take care of you, alright – too bad if they decide you don’t need something you think you need. Too bad if they decide you will work at something you don’t want to work at. Too bad if they decide you don’t get the medical treatment you think you need. Too bad you’ll watch your children enslaved under a socialist system – knowing you helped put them there. Too bad you’ll get what you deserve – but you wanted it!

    • NanaG

      Nikki,
      Maybe you should stop and think REAL HARD about this……What if everyone felt this way and no worked and no one ran a business….who would pay the tax dollars???? where would the government get the money for all these freebees???? The Bible says that if a man doesn’t work then he shouldn’t eat…..where does that leave you??? We don’t owe you free anything. If you are disabled there are programs to help you…..if you are just plain lazy and want the rest of us to do it for you…….NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!! I WILL FIGHT THAT WITH ALL THAT IS WITHIN ME!

      • James Griffin

        AMEN TO YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID, I TOTALLY AGREE.

  • TONY

    PEOPLE SHOULD LOOK BACK IN HISTORY TO 1935 WHEN A PAPER HANGER STARTED HIS SPEACHS ON HOW THE GOVERMENT WOULD CHANGE THE COUNTRY. IT WASN’T LONG BEFORE THE GOAT LED THE SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER AND HISTORY WILL SHOW YOU THE OUTCOME.
    AMERICANS SHOULD WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT IT IS THE TYPE OF GOVERMENT BEING PREACHED TODAY THAT WILL EVENTUALLY LEAD TO THE SUSPRESION OF OUR CONSTITUATION AND OUR BILL OF RIGHTS. THE MORE YOU ALLOW GOVERMENT TO CONTROL YOUR LIFE, THE MORE RIGHTS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY AND THEN YOU FIND YOURSELF CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERMENT IN EVERY ASPECT. USE THE GOD GIVEN SENCE THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY THE DEMECRATIC STYLE OF GOVERMENT WE HAVE TO SAY “NO” TO THE RETHERITC THAT IS BEING PREACHED IN THE POLITICAL SPEACHS BEING MADE.
    LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE AND HAD TO WORK TO HAVE–DON’T LET IT BE TAKEN AWAY. STAND UP AND THINK!!!!

    • Bre

      and why is this country where it is today? could it be because we as a people didn’s know what was going on we were being lied to (hhhuuumm). and who was in charge?

      • James Griffin

        Yep, and lets don’t forget that the majority of Congress has been democrates for the past 2 years. We have been living with lies for the past two years. The democrates could not wait to get in”CONTROL” but they want to blame George Bush for the mess we are in now, yea right. Put the blame where it needs to be, “on the democratic, in control, congress”!!!

  • JJ

    well we have 3 classes of people in the US the upper and lower well fair class and mid -class who pay the way for the other two classes. What is the upper class going to do went the mid- class just say to hell with all the taxes and then it will only leave the upper class to support all of the rest. The people in these two classes need to start paying there on way and get off the mid -mans back. and the 80 B. tax on the oil companys will only shut down this great county and put all of the working people in the hand out line with the of two free loading classes. if they think that we are going to turn in the guns and go for big labors unions and just do as they order the people to do this great county has been down that road about 200 year ago.

  • Marcella.

    Its a good thing America is headed towards socialism because the system of government we have does not work. The people need a guaranteed minimum income; enough to pay for their necessities, free and nationalized health care and prescription benefits, and bigger social security and disabilitiy benefits. Those who are against it and don’t like it, too bad. Because it’s going to happen whether you like it or not.

    NIKKI: And there you have the voice of arrogance from the typically non-thinking, left-leaning, socialist demanding twits we saw vote a charlatan in to the White House. It is the likes of this Nikki with 2 K’s we can blame for the catastrophe coming down the road to greet us, as in his|her mind the mantra ‘yes we can’ covers a boatload of what they demand from those of us who work for a living. I’ll discuss here just one of those demands:
    Have you ever followed the health care saga in the UK or Canada, Nikki? As you so obviously haven’t, allow me to ask what you think of paying over %80 on my earnings on taxation, is it then fair to have to wait close to 2 years for surgery? Is it okay with you that patients wallow on a stretcher for up to 3 days before seeing a doctor? How about hip surgery taking 8 months for elderly patients, any problem with that? Ever studied socialism, Nikki, ever asked people from the former Eastern Bloc countries how much they loved living under such tyranny which you now suggest would be a good thing for the USA? Time to visit a library and see how the actual world works, and discard the chanting of a man who is witless at best, and Marxist at worse. Yes we can indeed, grow the hell up.

  • Joe Fattal

    Yes we are in an economic crisis, we were during the Bush administration, and now President Obama going to use it and put this country in bankcrupcy so he can enforce his rules toward socialism. And I mean total socialism.

    • Bre

      OH! please get off the talking points. think! think! for yourself. Are you well off financially? if not just chill. what is the opposite of SOCIALISM? maybe that’s where you want to be again, no thank you! I have lost a bundle because of the practices of the opposite of SOCIALISM!

  • Dottie

    I wonder who sent this site to me, I do have a clue.
    I am a liberal.

    • James Griffin

      If you are a liberal and admit it, Everyone should pray for you.

  • Bake

    so many seem to think that the only one running this country is the president lets not forget who was running congress for the last several years all in all it really doesn’t matter they all go to lunch together and laugh and joke about us poor suckers out here working our butts off so they can sit back make alot of speeches and argue for the show” wag the dog” comes to mind.we need to get back to the days of old” ONE NATION UNDER GOD!” because if we keep pissing him off then there will be nothing left to fight for.

    • Bre

      AMEN!

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    Why spend time and energy on activities that do not further the progress of you goals. Concentrate of strategic initiatives that get your cause further down the road. Check out Save Free Enterprise.

  • Bre

    SOCIALISM, it would be nice to see adults act like adults. what is it with the right wing, if they know everything, why are we where we are now? somethings are just common sense which i realize that none of the right have and this is why they can’t relate to the other 2/3′s of the country. the last time i looked 2/3 is greater than 1/3?
    be honest they act just like a bunch of children. why are they in congress or the senate? you know people we can get rid of these crazy people.

    • Michelle

      Say on Chris!!!! A Big FAT AMEN to you!!!!!!!

  • James Griffin

    If we as True Americans don’t stop talking about all the mess in Washington and all the loosers that are running this country and start doing something about getting rid of the problem “creators” it is going to be too late. The “Cancer” of Socialism is eating us alive. If I as an employee of the company I work for pulled some of the stunts that have been pulled in the past several weeks I would have been fired on the spot. What makes these people any less accountable than I would be in the same position? It is time to fire some people and some to the swindlers on Wall Street should be thrown in the back of the jail. What the Wall Street Group has done is the same as robbing a bank, theft is theft. It is just like sin, some sins are more evident that others but a sin is a sin anyway you look at it. We need to “bow up” and get rid of these people, they do not deserve to run this country and how in the hell these people get elected by the way they think is beyond my comprehension.

  • Rick Carnivale

    The Obamination & all his followers love to equate him to Abraham Lincoln. The following are two quotes from Abe & I’d like to see how Dems “equate” this maniac in the White House to a great man.

    “YOU CANNOT MULTIPLY WEALTH BY DIVIDING IT. YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE THE POOR INTO FREEDOM BY LEGISLATING THE WEALTHY OUT OF FREEDOM”

    “WHAT ONE PERSON RECEIVES WITHOUT WORKING FOR, ANOTHER PERSON MUST WORK FOR WITHOUT RECEIVING. THE GOV’T CANNOT GIVE TO ANYBODY ANYTHING THAT THE GOV’T DOES NOT FIRST TAKE FROM SOMEBODY ELSE. WHEN HALF OF THE PEOPLE GET THE IDEA THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO WORK BECAUSE THE OTHER HALF IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, AND WHEN THE OTHER HALF GETS THE IDEA THAT IT DOES NO GOOD TO WORK BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET WHAT THEY WORK FOR, THAT IS SURELY THE END OF ANY NATION’S FUTURE”

    All Americans better also heed the words of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher of England who said: “The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” !!

    Democrats have become “freeloaders” & “leaches”, sucking the blood out of working America with their: “I want the gov’t to pay for everything”! If they want that….pack-up & move to Cuba or China or N. Korea.

    • bake

      hey and lets not forget “A HOUSE DEVIDED CANNOT STAND.” the only way to stop any of this nonsense is for all americans to unite and force our rule for the common good and for god sakes the defense of our own nation.our feerless leaders our going to flood the nation with so much currency that it will take a wheel barrol full of money just to buy a loaf of bread.how many soldiers are going to risk their lives for a country that pays in somthing worth less than the paso.and i totally agree that if i ran my shop like these jokers i woud have been fired! so whats stopping us?The people that don’t spend the time to investigate the news.they go home and watch some liberal news channel that blows smoke up their backsides and point fingers at everyone else time to take some responsability and start running our own nation and quit depending on the government to solve all of our problems. but thats just my point of veiw.

  • Nancy Kazel-Ramos

    Though Obama denies it, he appears to be leading America into a socialized government with healthcare, jobs, payscales, his new view on foreign policy in working with Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan. America is looking for continued quality in healthcare for everyone, but NOT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. Tim Geithner now in charge of the US Treasury, after not paying his own taxes??? Why is he being entrusted with this position? Someone else’s resume/background check would not have been accepted even in a minial position. As Obama explained, THIS ECONOMIC DOWNTURN DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT (that means it did not happen through the BUSH ADMINISTRATION), it took years and years to get to the point it is today. It should be expected that American’s work for a living, rather than using the continued social and welfare programs that too many illegals take advantage of…as God helps those who help themselves. Our government should stand on what our forefathers brought to this nation. Other countries do not change their principles for the United States, opening their arms to the US. Tony’s comment above said it exactly right, that this type of government will ultimately lead to suppression of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. The more government control, the more government will take away. Americans need to stay tuned for what is and has been taking place with this new administration. Government will be regulating the banks and our financial system. Too many Americans have the same concerns as to what’s happening with AIG, Bailout, auto industry, job market, etc. with the DIRECTION OF OUR NEW ADMINISTRATION. If the Fed’s own 80% of AIG, what does that tell you??? There should be better answers. Honesty, integrity, ethical, and moral character, is what Americans are looking for in government. Something is amiss with what has fallen through the cracks, as in so many local government’s in the newspaper and media. WAKE UP AMERICA!!

    • Dan

      A leader must have certain characteristics to be successful. First, he must have a set of principles—things he believes are absolutely true. He must possess a moral compass-understanding what is absolutely “right” or “wrong”. It is important for him to have a vision—what is to be accomplished. He also needs the skill to develop a consensus, that his plan is appropriate, among a group of individuals who will carry out the many tasks needed to effectively complete the project.

      In addition he must have courage to act on his convictions and take full responsibility for his actions. He must have a sense of justice—such as, “do unto others as you would have others do onto you”. A sense of moderation is also needed, which is an understanding not to “act out” with outrageous arrogance. Equally important, he must have the wisdom of how to apply all the above.

  • Ben

    We should never expect government to fix a problem, but to allow those conditions to take place which do solve a problem. This administration will do neither, and will severely hamper any attempt to return to the old normalcy. They will usher in the new normalcy of despair, anger, and radical socialism. Along a similar vein, read The Last Centurion by John Ringo.

  • KS

    Those who thinks America is headed to socialism are darn right. And guess who is leading toward it?

    President Obama is using Alinsky method to intentionally create chaos so that the government can have all the power before we know it. I am just learning about Saul Alinsky and Alinsky method. It appears that President doesn’t know what he is doing, but he knows exactly what he is doing. He is creating chaos and fear intentionally so that people are caught up in them and before you know it, we will have a a socialistic government and a dictator.

    It makes sense now that why he can laugh at 60 minutes when asked about the economic crisis. He is not “punch drunk” but he is pleased that Alinsky method is working for him.

    Wake up America and we must protest and fight against socialism!

  • joe

    We are already over the cliff and in the socialist ravine. I went to a sporting goods store in a town of 400 people, and the line to buy guns and ammo with three people working was four people deep. If that doesn’t show the growing fear we have of our government, nothing does. The manager of the told me that sales were off the charts.
    Wasn’t it Thomas Jefferson who said, ” When the people fear the government it is Anarchy”. And when the government fears the people it is called Liberty. I know it was something like that anyway. Sooooo PRAY!!!!

  • bake

    boys and girls, be careful of what you say and who you talk to,all guns are registered everything is being watched by big brother this is the onset of a terranicle socialist government .it is written “do not let the right hand know what te left hand is doing.”christ said “when i return who will be left.”gather your family’s close and be causiuos of outsiders.we are in very scarry times and the government wants to control all of it.and all of us.prey alot and keep your eyes open.

  • Bobby

    The American people need to be concerned with Obama. He seems to be leaning toward becoming a dictator along with his friend Nancy.

  • http://www.employmentblawg.com George Lenard

    If this is socialism, in the words of George W., “Bring It on!” The most socialist decisions of the past year were those made in the waning days of the Bush Administration, when they gave billions of dollars out like candy to the financial sector and automakers — with minimal constraints. The Obama spending is much more targeted to doing things that need to be done. Much stimulus spending money will wind up in the private sector (e.g., road and school construction-related firms) and/or will benefit the private sector indirectly (e.g., basic science spending; educational spending).

    Those who fear socialized medicine need to wake up and read about what we get for our money (including life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.) relative to every other country that has a different health care funding and delivery system.

    And those who criticize Obama using only the broadest and least factually supported generalizations ought to read his book, “The Audacity of Hope.” I have not yet finished it, but read enough to say that it reveals a remarkable degree of understanding of American history, politics, government, culture, law, and the large issues we confront today. Perhaps more importantly, it reveals a leader who is not dedicated to pushing extreme changes supported by only small minorities of Americans, but rather to building consensus and finding common ground whenever possible. (Unless, of course, that book was just a Trojan horse and he’s a blatant liar . . . )

    • Gina

      George Lenard,

      The book was a Trojan Horse, and he’s a liar.

      GW had a Democratic House during most of his terms. He had both a Democratic House AND a Democratic Senate during the last 2 years of his second term, and the Dems are the ones that passed the first so-called “stimulus” (aka: SPENDING) bill in 2008. He would never have gotten it past most of the republicans, there was just too much money. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton both signed major legislation into law during their terms relaxing financial institution and lending regulations, and encouraging more CRA, or minority lending, even if it had to be subsidized. Carter created the Community Reinvestment Act, and Clinton created the relaxed lending oversight with his push for “Stated Income” and “100%” loans so more minorities and low-income folks could know the dream of home ownership. Sadly, because everyone on the food chain was profit-taking, including the politicians in both parties in the form of PAC contributions, a high number of those that got into homes they could not afford with baloons on loans, found they could no longer afford the payments, they could not refinance because their homes had lost value, and they then knew thge nightmare of losing thier homes and dreams. Nobody gets out alive. Buyers and liars and sellers are too, and let’s not forget the loan agents, the appraisers, the insurance companies for insuring these homes for too much, the investors that fueled the derivatives created from bad loans sold and re-sold in the marketplace, the top leaders of all of the huge corporations that kept packaging bad loans and shuffling them off to unsuspecting investors … I could go on and on. GW is gone, he won’t be back, nobody has clean hands, you need to find a way to move on and stop blaming everyone else and be part of the solution.

      With respect to Socialism, it’s not here “YET” and I don’t think you want to “bring it on”. GW telling a bully to “bring it on” or take his best shot as we will return his best “in kind” and ten-fold, is specific to the United States being attached on its own soil. Since you said “IF” this is socialism, I assume you don’t really know for sure what socialism truly means.

      Here’s a fairly concise definition of Socialism.

      SOCIALISM:
      *A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of a society, with what the leaders determine to be a more just and equitable distribution of property, wealth and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme.

      *An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods is controlled or owned substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise or individual business owners, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism. Some socialists tolerate capitalism as long as the government maintains the dominant influence or control over the decisions affecting the economy; others insist on an abolition of private enterprise. All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists

      *The stage in Marxist Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship by one leader of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

      Still want to “Bring it On”? Be careful what you ask for. Once it’s in your own backyard, you can’t get rid of it. Go to your search engine and use these key words: “How To Catch Wild Pigs”. It might surprise you, and hopefully scare you, how easily a people will submit to total control.

      Since you are almost done with “The Audacity of Hope”, why not tackle “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand; and “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky. “O” and Ms. Clinton are both big fans of Mr. Alinsky. She did her thesis on him and and truly admired him from a very young age. Go online and read her Thesis; “… there is only the game … “

      • http://www.employmentblawg.com George Lenard

        Thank you for the reasoned — and quite reasonable reply. To explain my comment about “if this is socialism,” you have provided many definitions (six by my count), as this word means many things to many people. As you quote: “There are many varieties of socialism.” That and the following are the most telling with respect to why I use the “if”: “In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme.”

        In other words, the popular meaning is so unfocused, and alternative meanings so varied, that using the term is very unhelpful. We should just be speaking about specific policies and issues, without using inflammatory labels. (And I would say the same about such terms as “greedy,” “evangelical,” “conservative,” and “liberal.”)

        The “if” is crucial to my comment. I’m not saying I want more socialism, if that’s what “this” is. I’m saying if this is socialism it’s OK — under the circumstances. I don’t think changes we’ve seen to date — or single-payer health care — are the type of “socialism” I find distasteful or dangerous to fundamental American ideals. With the caveat that government ownership of financial institutions and major industrial corporations be only temporary, with the sincere objective of restoring them to status as healthy, if well-regulated, private enterprises.

        I agree about it not being productive to engage in the blame game and also that there is much blame to go around, including all those you identified. However, looking at the causes of the current crisis as objectively as possible is very important in determining future options — in learning from history so as not to repeat it.

        I’m sure you and many others on this forum disagree, but I have seen nothing from Pres. O. to date that suggests that his book is a Trojan Horse or he is a liar (any more so than any politician; personally I think he is much less so than most).

        As to your recommended reading, I bet both Pres. O. and Sec. Clinton have read and contemplated “Atlas” as well as various critics and critiques of Alinsky’s work. They are smart, thoughtful, well-educated people who have had plenty of time to develop their own world views and political and economic philosophies. I am not yet seeing in either of them a complete disregard of the counterbalancing views brought home in “Atlas.” Rather, I see people who appreciate complex reality and are not doctrinaire, much less so than those who would make either Rand or Alinsky their unquestioned prophet.

    • Michelle

      Those who are in the bureaucracy in Canada do all they can to force Canadians to live under that system. The hypocrisy of these bureaucrats was demonstrated a few weeks ago when a woman who was well up in the bureaucracy got breast cancer. Rather than stand in line to be served be her beloved socialized health care system she immediately flew to Seattle, Washington for care. Any time the Government says it wants to give you something or take over something from private industry, they are seeking control. Liberals care NOTHING for the common citizen except to serve as a cash cow to fund their utopian dreams.
      If Congress is so great at taking care of us, why aren’t they under the same health care system as us? Why do they only have to serve ONE TERM in Congress to receive a lifetime pension?
      Earl C.

      George that is an exerp from one in Canada who knows all about the Socialized Health Care System , Obama is a Liar with communist values, your reading his book so you know it to be true, I have read them tooo!!!! I wanted to see what makes this guy tick and any real American can see that he hates this country, dont tell me that you havent watched with your own eyes Obama running all over the world apoligizing for the United States – DISGUSTING AND TREASONOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOLKS WE NEED A THIRD PARTY – The dem and repubs are one and the same both rediculously liberal and puffed up with self importance, neither cares a whit for it’s constituants.

      • Audrey

        I agree with you…..we do need a third party, first we have to find someone who can attract the peoples confidence. The problem is I believe that TRUE Americans have become lazy and are waiting for someone else to stand up for their rights and when that happens nothing will happen. We need someone we can believe in and then help that person get elected one penny at a time….. a lot of us have lost our jobs as a result of the “change” that has come to Washington. I can write, march and give my time, but I no longer have the money to support someone and that I believe is a major problem. I also believe that we should force those that represent us to have the same “type” of health insurance that we have and the same time of retirement that we may be offered after and if we get jobs. Check out the health insurance that our representatives have……..you will not believe it.

  • FarRightWinger

    NEVER question and especially: NEVER critize the US government and its actions! It would be considered as “anti-semitism”!

    • Gina

      FarRightWinger:

      Isn’t it interesting that when “The Left” were bashing GW for 8 years, they considered themselves “Patriots”? And when some peaceful Conservatives gather to let their voices be known that they thing government spending, taxing and elitism are all out of control, they are called every name in the book, racists, “tea baggers” (how vulgar), insane, mentally deficiant, insignificant, etc.

      Proud to be a strong Conservative who is speaking up. Keep up the good fight.

  • bake

    NEVER QUESTION OUR GOVERNMENT? As i remember the beginning statement,WE THE PEOPLE.I along with many other americans bust my rear everyday so they can focus on running OUR country.I spent 9 years of life defending this great nation and i’m only one person amongst many others who half risked there lives and many have died to keep this country and our way of life.if we don’t question our government then who will? There was a little get together a few years ago when this country felt taken advantage of they stood up against a terranicle government and wrote a small document called THE COSTITUTION! Yes we all have a right to question our government.

  • Civilian

    It has been like this in America from it’s very beginnings, citizen build government takes. Look at the fact most government people that are voted in now have high wages, buy the best stuff to fill their numeous offices, get cutbacks, borrow from special funds and never pay them back, this is so bad the prison would fill up 100% more if we stood up against this illegal uses of our funds, and since they really just in there for the ‘look i am…’. Listen to how they weap their words in a way that it seems all good but words don’t fix robbers and robbing us, everyone, even those getting monies through these bailout or stim pkgs will hurt worse later as we the poor who will survive be on welfare, making that number high soon rather than 1000′s helpimg millions it’ll be hundreds helping billions. Let there be a stop to overspending rather than stop care of the children, seniors, health and education. Start getting a picture of the dad’s up there along with the mother who left that lil baby after it’s birth behind. he the last to say no to these disposible babies, so here is enough, there is more. like the lotto is doing what and where, see the government getting that and not putting the monies where it was meant to go, how many offices do your state officials have, see most have 3 up to 8 so far, do teacher get to teach from their teaching skills or they just government controoled bots, unemployment went up for white males as the latino, hispanic and black stats went down, there so much more come on gals let tell it like it is elbow that man to put his foot in there to. Lets keep what is ours before they make us living in boxes, working like bots and giving us pills lol lmao, americanism from a muslim who forgot his white side roflmao ya see it ya know it lets put stop to it, oh and that privacy act, hell i can get your information for 2 buck yes 2 buck from your local tax offices. Slapping my knees laughing.I could go on but I am tired after al this so carry on my fellow civilians get it right we are humans and want the same pay as the president. w/o taxes and the same type of health care but he can keep that haircut, hon your half white lol

  • Sonny Y

    Why fear socializm? If it’s coming I say it is about time . Sy

  • Bob

    I see a wide variety of “facts” from many different viewpoints trying to support a “feeling”. The facts are just that, facts. Certainly we all can try to justify an emotional position with misinterpretation or hearing the portions we want to hear, but the facts will bear. Look at the actual unemployment rates from 1930-1940 and attempt to argue how effective government was in direct involvement in a free market system, look at the current “stimulus” plan and tell me, or anyone here, where the stimulus is? It’s OUR money, which we should be thankful to borrow back from the bank, since the bank was given OUR money in the first place????? What?! Of course, the bank will not actually loan us OUR money because 16 million of us are unemployed so we’re a bad risk. BUT,,,, we will pay taxes regardless so that they can give away even more of OUR money, we don’t have, to something we don’t want. Somehow this stimulates the economy? Obama has spoken of the facts, yet can offer none in support of his claims…they don’t exist. I wish I was, or could be, the speaker he is… but without the deception. No earmarks, he said…..and, $$$$, no tax increase for those under 250,000, ummm “not one dime”…..and new cigarette tax, higher state taxes, new energy tax upcoming,,,,shall we go on? Even the royal dog, promised to be saved from a shelter, ends up being only a poor Kennedy! Do I dare quote…”words mean something”.

    The facts of government intervention in the free market are clear, socialist ideals fail, rights are being taken from us daily…….read everything you can find, start with the Constitution, understand economics and free market systems, socialist system histories and failures…then understand Politics 101 is being re-elected, rather than doing what’s required,,,, Political job security. Make us dependent upon them. I’m not buying it !!!!, although I am paying for it, and paying, and paying……

  • http://mazillafox James

    I am a veteran of WW@ and Korea., I lost a brother in WW2 in The Germany .My Dad was wounded in the Leyte I will consider it a Honor If The Dept of Homeland security puts me on there list of Right Wing Radicals, My Mother taught me ” Show me your friends and I will tell you what you are ” I believe our Constitution and freedoms are in danger of being taken from us by Left wing Radicals . I would like the DHS to send me a Letter of conformation if I make the list so I may put it on my wall next to my Brother and Dad pictures.I know they would be proud,. I intend to send a copy of this to The DHS. God Bless America.

  • Tom

    I am a Canadian who also loves America. Socialism is a cunning and diabolical system of government. It operates based on corruption. It favors the super rich because bribery becomes the norm. It is the BIG lie. I lived in Russia for 8 years. The environment is destroyed. The whole infrastructure is a shambles. Morality is destroyed. Greed and graft and poverty abound. No foreign invader could have done a better job of destroying a country and it’s society, than the system of socialism did. Yet it is all for the good of the people. The children are thoroughly brainwashed in the schools. They look elsewhere for the cause of their collapse. IE the west Most of the people continue to believe in it. They believe their own lies.
    Watch out America. Fight back while you can still win, or fight when there is no chance of winning. Take your country back.

  • Ronald

    Anybody see that interview by that Janeane Garofalo? She calls those who attend Tea Parties racists. She thinks the Tea Parties are to protest a black man in the White House. LOL!

    I support Tea Parties. I voted for Obama, I even donated to his election campaign. I like President Obama, he’s a likable guy. I wouldn’t support him if I were racist against black people.
    I just didn’t expect President Obama to seize the crisis and push a political adgenda. And In that he has let me down. I am gonna give him a little more time, but I expect him to fail us. Not because he’s black, but because he’s a politician, and he appears no different from all the white guys that came before him.

    Janeane Garofalo is saying that the white male has a brain that is swollen to the point that it is pushing against the scull and that is causing a malfunction in the firing of the neurons. Geez what a hate monger. If you don’t share her veiws, then there is something physically wrong with you. How elitist. But she cannot be for real.
    No, many of us are of sound mind, we just don’t share you distorted veiw of the word Mr/Miss Garofalo. She states that Tea Partiers don’t know their history. Really. Has she even bothered to ask anybody? She’s the one making assumptions, she’s the one who’s confused about what the Tea Parties are about. She is either confused, {unlikely} or she is being disingenuous {most likely}.
    I like some liberal policy, but people like her make me glad there is a Rush Limbagh to rip her to shreds. She’s a dush. Plain and simple. She calls Tea Party protesters “Tea Baggers” an oral sex slang. Nice going Dush! She also says they are all white males protesting.

    So let me get this straight, according to Janeane Garofalo, if you feel that your representives are not representing you, and you feel the federal government is no longer in touch with the will of the American people, then you are racist, your brain is not functioning properly, and you engage in gay oral sex if you happen to be a man. Nice…

    So in her statements Janeane Garofalo engages in racism, sexism, and slams those with real physical disabilities. And she calls herself a liberal….LOL!

    Janeane Garofalo nneds to know that simply having an elitist additude does not count for anything. It does not make you right. I judge the content of what she said, not the additude and her tone. I find she is way off base, and engages in every vile act of racism, sexism and discrimination that she supposidly preaches against. Her whole interview speech was one huge contradiction.

    She is a joker. Don’t watch 24 anymore. You, the consumer, pay her salary. Stop supporting her.

  • William

    No matter how poor you are and living in America, you are VASTLY rich compared to many that live in the 3rd world socialist society Obama wants to create. Those that think what Obama and the Dems are doing is a good thing have never travelled outside this country to see the abject poverty that exists in socialist countries.

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      IT’S NEVER TO LATE … AND … THE TEA PARTIES … ARE PROOF OF THIS.

    • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

      I agree, but if it was for our men and women in uniform, fighting for our freedoms, our people would be living in, grass huts, or tin shacks, like those who are ‘forced’ to live under … SOCIALISM.

  • Michelle

    Wow what great comments, Props to Margeret, Kristen and Marie just to name a few To all of the OBAMA Worshippers out there, he is an America haten incompetent, we are in such trouble because of these radical Liberals, Obama did NOT win this election he got where he is because of Afirmative Action first and foremost, ACORN and Communist that are just like him that have a lottt of MONEY!!!!! , I am so ashamed of his anti Americanism, running around the world apoligizing for the United States. We truely are the Best country in the World and have done so much good for so many people that is makes me sick to my stomach to know that this horrible excuse for an American is in our beautiful White House bringing this country down from within. Look into his past, his mentor was a member of the old Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA. in Hawaii – Frank Marshall Davis!!!!!!!!!!!!! what dont you all understand?????????????. Read his books he and his disgusting wife are racist as they come.

  • Michelle

    Sonny Y, you cant help it, it’s alright, go towards the light…………………

  • Catherine Waid

    Hay guys…..America is headed towards FACISM not Socialism. Read “The End of America” by Naomi Wolf. Then read “The Shock Doctrine” by Naomi Klein. When government and big business marry – that is FACISM. Then read “They Thought They Were Free” about Germany in the thirties………we are in trouble and had better wake up or the New World Order will destroy us all.

    • Gina

      Good ones, Catherine … How about “Atlas Shrugged”? Even better, the “bible” of Hillary Clinton and Obama: “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky, not that I agree with him, but when compared to what is happening to this country right, both of those books are more than a little chilling.

    • Gina

      Hey Catherine, in case you missed my earlier post of definitions for various forms of government, here it is again.

      Welcome to Civics 101.

      This should be mandatory reading for anyone wishing to register to vote in this country.

      A lot of terms are being thrown around these days regarding the political future of our country. Fear-mongering, finger-pointing, crisis managing, blame, promises made, promises broken, and insecurity of the people in the country all seem to be the order of the day. Too many people are fearful about what is happening now and what is going to happen next.

      Here is a list of definitions for various (not all) forms of government that is well documented on websites and in history books. If you want more go to a search engine and type in the keyword you are interested in knowing more about.

      This information is just information and facts readily available to everyone in any public library, history book or internet.

      There are so many debates going on between people that have strong beliefs one way or the other, but sadly, many with the most closely held beliefs often have not actually read up on this information. Too many voters do not know their own parties’ core platform values. So, read it, try to learn something, and decide what you believe in with facts, or at least be sure you know the definition of the terms you toss around before you get into a debate with someone.

      Check it out, it’s very interesting.

      CAPITALISM:
      * An economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth.
      *An economic system based on a free market, open competition, profit motive and private ownership of the means of production. Capitalism encourages private investment and business, compared to a government-controlled economy. Investors in these private companies (i.e. shareholders) also own the firms and are known as capitalists.

      POPULISM:
      *A philosophy supports “the people” versus “the elites”. Populism may comprise an ideology urging social and political system changes or a rhetorical style employed by members of political or social movements. Generally, populism invokes an idea of democracy as being, above all, the expression of the people’s will.

      SOCIALISM:
      *A theory or system of social reform which contemplates a complete reconstruction of a society, with what the leaders determine to be a more just and equitable distribution of property, wealth and labor. In popular usage, the term is often employed to indicate any lawless, revolutionary social scheme.

      *An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods is controlled or owned substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise or individual business owners, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism. Some socialists tolerate capitalism as long as the government maintains the dominant influence or control over the decisions affecting the economy; others insist on an abolition of private enterprise. All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists

      *The stage in Marxist Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which collective ownership of the economy under the dictatorship by one leader of the proletariat has not yet been successfully achieved.

      COMMUNISM:
      *A system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
      *A scheme of equalizing the social conditions of life; specifically, a scheme which contemplates the abolition of inequalities in the possession of property, as by distributing all wealth equally to all, or by holding all wealth in common for the equal use and advantage of all.

      FASCISM:
      *A governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often some form of ethnic superiority.
      *A system of government marked by centralization of authority under one leader or dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition to control and leadership through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism.

      MARXISM:
      *The doctrines of Karl Marx and his associate Friedrich Engels on economics, politics, and society. They include the notion of economic determinism — that political and social structures are determined by the economic conditions of people. Marxism calls for a classless society, where all means of production are commonly owned, a system to be reached as an inevitable result of the struggle between capitalists and workers.
      *the system of economic and political thought developed by Karl Marx, along with Friedrich Engels, especially the doctrine that the state throughout history has been a device for the exploitation of the masses by a dominant class, that class struggle has been the main agency of historical change, and that the capitalist system, containing from the first the seeds of its own decay, will inevitably, after the period of the dictatorship of the proletariat, be superseded by a socialist order and a classless society.

      STALINISM:
      *The form of Marxism associated with Soviet leader Joseph Stalin. Stalinism emphasizes the repression of all dissent, often by brutal means; a rigid adherence to government management of economic life; and the domination of all communist movements worldwide by the Soviet Union. In holding to these beliefs, Stalin opposed Leon Trotsky.
      LENINISM:
      *The political and economic theories of Lenin which provided the guiding doctrine of the Soviet Union; the modification of Marxism by Lenin stressed that imperialism is the highest form of capitalism (which shifts the struggle from developed to underdeveloped countries)
      DICTATORSHIP:
      *A form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition, but at the will of the dictator).
      *Government by a single person or by a junta or other group that is not responsible to the people or their elected representatives. A military junta is a government led by a committee of military leaders with usually one supreme leader. Junta’s generally result after a violent removal or overthrow of a government/leader and military rule prevails.
      NOTE: Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both dictators
      MONARCHY:
      *A system of government in which one person reigns, usually a king or queen. The authority, or crown, in a monarchy is generally inherited. The ruler, or monarch, is often only the head of state, not the head of government. Many monarchies, such as Britain and Denmark, are actually governed by Parliaments. There are two types of Monarchy, Absolute and Constitutional.
      REPUBLICAN PARTY CORE PLATFORM:
      *Our people must be free to pursue happiness, financial independence, educational preferences and business success.
      *Our citizens must have the right to equality and opportunity.
      *Our government’s power must be decentralized. State’s rights should prevail on all issues specific to that state, not Federal control which should be exercised on all nationally common resources and/or services provided.
      *Our desire is for as much energy independence utilizing all energy sources possible to maintain a balance while utilizing our country’s natural resources as much as possible.
      *Our economy must be based on a Free Market System that encourages individual excellence, and focuses on domestic production of goods to ensure less reliance on imports to stimulate fair trade.
      *Our foreign policy must be centered on free and fair trade with other nations.
      *Our country must have leaders that practice fiscal responsibility and place the good of the country above their own personal goals of holding office.
      *Our nation has always been and must always be strongly defended at all times.
      *Our leadership must govern with integrity and accountability.

      DEMOCRATIC PARTY CORE PLATFORM:
      *Fiscal responsibility in Washington.
      *Ensuring all Americans have good jobs with good pay.
      *Establishing energy independence and security, and promoting alternative sources.
      *Ensuring strong trade policies.
      *Protect civil liberties.
      *Rebuild national infrastructure.
      *Ensure tight regulatory oversight of the financial sector.
      *Support our military.
      *Restore National Guard and Reserve to ensure readiness.
      *Support injured, returning and retired veterans better.
      *Work for open, accountable and ethical government.

  • http://twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

    I’m a ‘War Veteran’, who for the first time in his life, raised a banner, in protest against Big Spending in Washington DC, and their attempt to move the working people, in the a world of … SOCIALISM.

    Nancy Pelosi better be listening to what … WE THE PEOPLE … are saying, because we are a grass-root organization which is funded by … DONATIONS.

    We are not going to stop and President Obama best believe, that ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ are more then just, people who ‘WAVE TEA BAGS IN THE AIR’.

    President Obama supports those who want to destroy America, rather then, those who … PROTECT AND DEFEND … THE CONSTITUTION OF AMERICA.

    From the ASHES OF DISCONTENT … will arise a … THIRD PARTY … to assure that our … CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE PROTECTED.

    • Michelle

      AMEN HARRY!!! GOD BLESS YOU, You and all of the vetrens (your brothers and sisters) are my hero’s, we need that third party now and I am waiting impatiently, I for the first time in my life am scared to death for this country, it sickens me to see that these imposters have hijacked our white house and our country’s highest offices, we truely are in very big trouble, after reading all of the comments above except for a few very sick individuals feel a little better. My eyes and ears are wide open and I’m waiting to be part of whatever will trun this country around.

      • http://http//twitter.com/ROCKWITHBECK Harry

        I want to thank you for your deep concern for our country. We need people like who are able to recognize a problem, and who, are prepared to ‘fight for our ‘CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS’.

        Unless ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ are willing to ‘fight for our protection under the constitution’, then ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ are to blame, for the abuse this administration is handing out in the form of … BIG GOVERNMENT AND BIG GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

        As a ‘War Veteran’ I laid my life on the line, so that, our children, are protected from tyranny, and will continue to enjoy the fruits of … LIBERTY, JUSTICE, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.

        I was offended by our presidents comments when he accused ‘AMERICAN PATRIOTS’, of being nothing less then … TEA BAGGERS. According to this president we are just ‘silly people’ … ‘waving silly little tea bags in the air’ … and who are not a threat towards … MAKING CHANGE IN AMERICA. I wonder, if his comments would have been the same if: ACORN and THE PINK ORGANIZATION … were waving ‘little tea bags in the air’. Then to add, insult to the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, this president, ‘told the American People’, that he didn’t even know, that the protests where happening. To this, I say: ‘HOG WASH’.

        What the Liberal Media (CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC) and others, don’t want you to hear is the truth, the truth is: .. On April 15, 2009, 1.2 MILLION PATRIOTS, across this great nation, raised a banner, and marched ‘peacefully’ to ‘DEMAND’ (not ask for) but ‘DEMAND’, that ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ are protected under the constitution, and that, ‘WE THE PEOPLE’, will not, ‘LIVE UNDER THE RULES OF … SOCIALISM.

        It’s up to you and I, and the millions of people, across this nation … to stand up for our rights, join the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT … and MAKE IT QUITE CLEAR, to both houses in Washington, that ‘WE THE PEOPLE’ are: MAD AS HELL AND WE WON’T TAKE IT ANY LONGER.

        To many Americans died for our rights under the CONSTITUTION, and I feel, that it’s my duty to my, ‘brothers-in-arms’, to contine their fight, to protect our government from ‘TYRANNY AND DICTATORSHIP.

        JOIN THE FIGHT NOW!

  • http://none Jim,NC

    No matter how poor you are here in America, you are very rich compared to millions that live in the 3rd world socialist societies, and Obama wants to create one soon in your city. Those that believe what Obama and the Democrats are doing is a good thing have never travelled outside this country to see the abject poverty that exists in socialist countries.
    But really, you can’t blame those that just go into office this last election. This has been building for the last 50 to 75 years, or longer. Greed and power lust has always been with America. Yes, we were founded on Biblical principles. And, yes we have put the God of the Christian faith out of our lives and we no longer are a Christian nation.
    Does a Christian nation murder it’s own babies? Does a Christian nation rival other nations in drunkedness? Does a Christian nation condone the vulger and filthy lifestyle of the sodomite? The answer is NO! A Christian nation would not.
    Americans need to understand one thing, which is this. The God of the Christian Faith put Obama into office because He is still in control of the universe. However, Obama was not put into office to be Americas savior, but rather the tool that God will use to bring judgement upon this nation. God will judge the three wicked sins that I just mentioned whether you or I like it or not. The average Christian never prays in public because their afraid to. They don’t want to be laughed at or force their beliefs on anyone or any of a dozen pitiful excuses. Or if they do pray in public they do it with an attitude that tells others around them that, “I don’t need what ever it is that he has.”
    Hateful Christians with their “hollier than thou” attitude have done more to hurt the body of Christ than those that hate Christ and the Word of God. Christians that defend the ten commandments for the most part can’t even name more than four of them, they want prayer in school but they don’t pray themselves. They don’t tithe and support the local New Testament Christian Church. Yet scream foul when the devils crowd follows their leader Satan.
    America is one of many nations that through the ages that have turned their back on God. Each of those nations has been judged and today are not good places to live.
    Like it or not our nation “America” is a pagan nation. If you claim to love America and are not saved, then you don’t really know how to love beyond your humane reasoning. However, if you are a Christian and say you love America, and don’t pray for it and our leaders, then you are part of the problem. We need to vote for what we think is right and do all we can as men and women to bring good things into place for America, but after we do all that we ca do, we need to plead with the God of creation to forgive us of our sins as a nation and bring an honest to goodness revival here in America. God still forgives sins and saves people. God can still save America, but He tell sinners to repent. “That means stop doing the things that are wrong.”
    The alternative is to ignore God and continue down the road your on, and God will judge. It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this, the judgement.
    America is no more important in the grand scheme of things which God has planned than Rome was, remember Rome? What happened to them? They were a pagan nation. Repent of your own sins and ask God to forgive you and save you first, then pray for the salvation of those in our Government.
    Believe this or not. God is the only hope that America has, He alone can save America.

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  • Jerry

    Pay more attention to this man, he did not get to his position by being dumb, he is very smart and deceiving, alot of people have drank from the Obama drink and have been brainwashed by it. We the people need to wake up before it is to late, No mater what side your on, it is plain to figure out that you can not do everything that he is proposing unless many people suffer. If you want to hear some real truth listen to The Savage Nation with an open mind

    • Michelle

      Jerry you are absoliutely right, I listen to the Savage Nation faithfully from 3 to 6 , Michael Savage is the only man in the media that is telling the whole truth, I suggest to all out there that if you have never heard of him you might want to start – here in the SanJoaquin and Sacramento Valley he is on Talk 650 AM from 3:00 to 6:00 pm Monday thru Friday, this man is wonderfully intelligent and knows his history, – History has a way of repeating itself and that is just what is happening now starting with the rise of Hitler – Obama is our Hitler here and now and he needs to be stopped.

    • http://DNA Buddy

      It is amazing that a virtual unknown could show up and essentially show -up “professional” politicians who have played the political game for years. That somewhat indicates how popular (or one might say “competent”) the professionals are. As may be recalled, Jimmy Carter pulled off the same deal.

      Those successes by somewhat unknown people prove that “hope springs eternal”. . . . and also a devil that we don’t know is less threatening than devils whom we do!

  • clifton

    It is important that we understand that the changes being orchestrated at this time in our history are now becoming visible like the fruit on a tree. The roots were planted a long time ago, the tree nutured quietly by feeding socialistic economic fertilizer (to all students) is now bearing fruit. This fruit is poisonous to the capitalist economic tree that has proven to be the most effective means mankind has yet discovered for “sharing the wealth.” I would encourage all people of this nation to read “The Naked Communist” by W. Cleon Skowsen. In particular read FIVE VITAL QUESTIONS page 288 – 316 to understand that which is unfolding before us (The enemy Within.). Then Read -How Does A people Build A free Nation?- page317 – 342 to see the 15 summary statements that must be taught and understood. RING THE LIBERTY BELL!!! DISPLAY THE LIBERTY BELL!!!
    Clif

  • clifton

    I mispelled W. Cleon Skousen not Skowsen, Sorry about that.
    The “Naked Communist ” by W. Cleon Skousen.

  • Freakazoid

    Did IQs suddenly drop while I was away? Do any of you actually know anything about economics? Do you understand socialism? Do you understand capitalism?

    Do you understand WHY this nation is in debt to so many lendors?
    Do you understand that there is nothing moral, or conservative, about the “me first, screw you” ideology that most of you are voicing?

    You get yourselves all pumped up listening to voices on the radio, and then come here for a circle jerk.

    God hasten your departure.

    • clifton

      The Socialist position is ” That which is mine is mine and that which is yours is mine.” You can always identify a liberal by action, If he invites you to dine it will be you who pays the bill. The liberal will only pay when someone elses money is used never his/her own.

      The capitalist position is the right to fail and offers the most rewards to all, it provides inventiveness, creativeness and spreads the wealth through private employment without which there would be no taxpayer supported jobs.

      Now it is obvious that the planned demise of Capitalism has been accelerated through expansion of social programs beyond the ability to pay. In other words, debt intentionally expanded many years ago and accelerated now to fulfill the false promise of soialism is the enemy within and therefore treason.

      To those educated to believe that Socialism Economics is superior to Capitalistic Economics ; just know that this false education has destroyed more human lives than any other on earth where it was attempted or actually enacted. To live under absolute Socialism is akin to being caged like chickens for slaughter and many who support this move to socialism violently defend the chickens right to freedom. UMMM

      • Freakazoid

        “The Socialist position is ” That which is mine is mine and that which is yours is mine.” You can always identify a liberal by action, If he invites you to dine it will be you who pays the bill. The liberal will only pay when someone elses money is used never his/her own.”

        Actually what you are describing is imperialism and piracy, neither of which is a socialist or “liberal” position. In philosophical terms, socialism says there is no “mine” and no “yours”. There is Ours. This is Our Nation. This is Our Government. These are Our successes and failures.

        If capitalism was still in place, there would be no child labor laws, no safety laws, no fair wage laws. The tide would only rise for the very few who could afford boats, everyone else would die.

        Perhaps you believe that you are more important than the next guy. Who, then, is more important than you? Somebody must be, because somebody has more money than you, and that is your assignment of value.

        We call a soldier that sets aside self interest to come to his comrades-in-arms’ aid a hero. A firefighter who rushes into a building to get that last person out is a hero. Someone who finds a lost wallet or purse and returns it, taking nothing, is esteemed as a “good samaritan”. Philanthropy is also esteemed.

        So why is the Administration’s desire to get more boats out there “treason”?
        What makes the good of the one more important than the good of the many?

  • Rosie Lopez

    Mr. Livingston, I appreciate your health information, but I do not appreciate that you are promoting sound bytes from the Republicans about Obama’s policies that he is promoting. It is hog-wash that we are becoming a socialist country! It is interesting that when Republicans were handing out the middle class’s hard earned tax dollars to the wealthy, Republicans didn’t call this socialism for the rich folks and the corporate world!

    Wake up Republicans; the Republican leadership, the wealthy and the corporate cronies have you hoodwinked that they are fighting for your dollars–for you–they are fighting for and stealing your hard-earned dollars for themselves!! Check your facts: Aren’t you jobless, homeless, foreclosing, lost your 401Ks, stocks, and didn’t your occupation of Iraq give Halliburton, Blackwater and other construction corporations all our tax dollars with no questions asked? Hasn’t the devastating state of the economy for the past eight years under a Republican “leader” affected you adversely–close to a depression?

  • Robert Edwards

    I’m sorry, but most Americans have no idea what the difference is between socialism, a republic, communism, capitalism, and liberalism. So to comment would be TOTALLY fruitless. Just one thing before I sign off; America has always been a socialistic state but they have gone about it in a capitalistic way.

    • keith

      your a traiter,you put down our nation instead of defend it! screw you! our nation as it IS,is the greatest nation on the face of the earth!,we don’t need socialism and will resist it & fight tooth and nail! DOWN WITH OBAMA! IMPEACH HIM,BOOT HIS BUTT OUT!
      signed a pissed off patriot!

  • Robert Edwards

    Sorry if the truth hurts…

  • val cousino

    To those of you who regard the institution of socialism with wide-eyed horror-
    use those bulging eyeballs to look around you for a change- capitalisim doesn’t seem to be doing so hot- and we’re dragging the entire world down with with us due to our insatiable desire for cheap products and cheap labor. The name of the game is greed- the worst of the seven deadly sins- (to the bible toting fascists) and we have no one else to blame for the current state of affairs but ourselves and our system. I suggest you imperialist swine read the works of Karl Marx and look at how Cuba beat the oil embargo, and converted to sustainable agriculture. We need to adapt or perish. The current state of affairs is deplorable and despicable. It must change immediately. Thank You.

    • keith

      what the freakin muslims fanatics tried to do on 9-11 and failed,with the targeting of the financial center of the twin towers and failed,comrad obama is now doing for them. coincidence? i think not!

  • Betty

    We are already a Socialist state and have been for many years. Obama is
    turning the U.S. into a third world country, ie a Communistic country.

  • Don

    There are so many people that have been on some form of Government assistance all their lives, they know nothing else! The ‘Demoncratic”, LIBERALS in our Congress and Senate push this spending bill, and this so called 250.00 stimulus for the eldery, is a joke! Our Republican lawmakers let the American people down, and that’s why Obama,(with the help of A.C.O.R.N ) got put in office. Now the Ship is definatly going to sink.As much as I hate to admit it, it’s one big S* sandwich, and unfortunatly we all have to take a bite. p.s. I know how to spell Democratic.

  • Dolores Fleming

    Obama can not be president of the United states.He is not a natural born citizen of the united states.Obama was born 8000 miles from the united states.Obama was born in Mogadesha Kenya.A vedeo of his grandmother over in Kenya, she is saying that she attended Obamas birth.His mother died and his dad took him to indoneshia where Obama was adopted.Thats the reason Obama wrote the book Dreans of My Father.Obamas mother was 16 and if she came over to the united states at 16 she would have to live here six more years to become a citizen.Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States.Our own Supreme Court knows this and has said it will do nothing about it.Is our country going to hell letting some one that was not born in the United States run our country.Obama is so dumb he couldn’t lead a bpy scout troop

    • Mickey Steib

      You have not presented proof of your citizenship. You have not varrified your birth certificate nor a copy of it.
      Americans are offended by the way you insult the president of the United States of America. You sound like you really think that the intelligence agencies and the political leaders need your help in taking enough careful thought to get at the real truth. We did not elect a president of the United States to be insulted in such a reckless manner.

      • keith

        amen to that!

  • shanem66

    we all know whats coming,our puppet of a president answers to someone other than the american people. For the first time in over 200 years our way of life is on the way out. But I remember what freedom feels like and this is not it. If you want to see a scene in the U.S.A. in 20 years look at Germany , Switzerland and other European union members . I’m saddened the America of our fathers is being stolen by our leaders not our enemies …or are they

    • Michelle

      Both!!!!!! good girl and that the truth

  • Mickey Steib

    The comments, for the most part have the feel of ideology without thinking things through. Complaints are the type that those who have already made up their mind would happily seek out with little proof nor thought involved. Perspective, looking at the overall picture, weighing both sides of issues with pros and cons, respect for ideas rather than arrogance in rejecting without thought what is different from ones ideology, and rude feelings abound. What an insult to our country! We did not elect the president of the United States of America to be insulted by those who have not thought through the complex issues involved and are reacting with very little serious thought nor study. Frankly, the simplistic thinking based on ideology without study is just not sufficient to handle the complex issues of the economic crises.

    This crises has been growing without much being presented to the public for long enough for it to get completely out of hand. It requires the best ideas for solution and these ideas from both major parties include ones from capitalism and from socialism. We do not like to be forced into considering (both major parties) the kinds of ideas that seem necesary to help repair our economy in crises. Also we may not like that simplistic thinking just isn’t enough to deal with the crises. We need leadership from near the top of the class rather than from near the bottom of the class. Serious study and complex ideas rather than “sound byte mentality” are needed now.

    We also need to grow up and realize that the scary words are associated with ideas we have incorporated into our success as a country for its entire, very successful life. The mix of ideas we use to keep the many aspects of our success from getting out of hand has recently displayed a need for improvement, mostly in the area of government involvement with regulations. We needed regulations that are well thought out and have strong force against “Made off” schemes, “creative accounting” and deterioration of the customer base and credit worthyness that keeps our economy vibrant and alive.

    Blame us all for our over indulgence like a bunch of spoiled children, and stop being in such strong denial, so quick to point at others and to “throw the first stone.” Blame us all for being so short sighted and having blind faith in the self adjusting properties we so strongly wanted our system to have. We did not want to think about it or deal with it. We wanted to have faith in our investments growing in value, jobs growing in value, ability to make house payments for houses growing in value, our world influence growing in value. We did not want to take the care to make these things more secure. Sloppy regulations sloppy placement of military strength, sloppy home buying decisions, sloppy credit, sloppy planning, and sloppy treatment of individuals all do have risks involved. The question is not about socialism nor capitalism. It is about using care and using ideas wisely rather than sloppily, no matter which of the many facets of our system is failing us with warning (Enron) after warning (economic studies).

  • Nohea

    If, and when, it becomes a socialist country, in the end, the money will run out. Leave America as it is. Work for what you want, and do not rely on anyone to get it for you, not even your spouse. Plan your plan, then work your plan.
    Too many think, they have entitlement rights to a free ride, there is NO FREE RIDE, social programs are on there way out, and should be. It makes one Lazy, and dependent on others work.
    http://waronyou.com/topics/the-social-security-scam/ The problem with Congress, they have not followed the commandment, “Thy shall not steal”

    • Coal Banks

      The money HAS run out already thanks to globalized economy that sent jobs to 3rd world, mis-spent billions on corporations that went bankrupt like GM, outright frauds like ENRON – and now the gov’t is printing more currency which just devalues the remnabts of the economy.

  • John

    There is a lot of BS going back and forth here. We already have some socialism and it’s not a bad thing. I’m thankful for Social Security.
    You need to think about what you can do. You can start by cutting up your credit cards. Move back to a one income family and one of you raise your own kids.
    Womens lib was a mistake. It contributed to the absence of family.
    Teach your kids to play outside and create their own toys. Clean out your medicine cabinet of all those dependent drugs you really don’t need. The war on drugs begins in your bathroom. Stop looking for short cuts in everything you do.
    Work, save and when you’ve earned it, get it. Turn off the useless entertainment programs if you can’t turn off the TV. There is a lot to learn on TV if you look for it. ALL the news shows are lying to you. The 2 party system is a sham and McCann proved it. You want to change the government start with the vote. Look up the candidates record and vote for the one who agrees with you most of the time no matter what party. Quite listening to every talk show host and start thinking on your own. Read every day. Conserve what you have and start depending on yourself. Educate yourself and do it from as many angles as are available to you. Don’t lock your mind into one line of thought. Eat less and eat right. Take a walk and say hello to people, even the bad looking ones. If God does not exist this is all you have. If he does you better be careful. Either way your daily life should be one of love. Love starts with yourself. If you don’t love what you are you need to make changes and if you do you have people around you that remind you of it. If there is only one God it does not matter what you call him or how you talk to him your all talking to the same God.
    He who dies with the most toys is a fool.
    Ask not what your country can do for you, because THEY are not going to do it.
    Ask what you can do for yourself because in the end that’s all you have.
    Accept that there will always be greedy people and poor people and don’t become one of them.
    If you want true change you have to start with yourself. The people in power are not fools or idiots. They got their by education and work. Most of them are corrupted by power but if you want to deal with them educate yourself.
    Put together a years supply of food for your family. Buy a shotgun, 500 rounds of various shot and learn to use it. Spend some time in remote areas so you know what it’s like. Hope it never comes to that.
    Terrorists are coming to this country because we are already in theirs. We are not the global police force and have no right to spread our ideals where they are not wanted. We are a mess at home and need to clean up our own backyard. What right have we got to dictate to the world the way things should be. We think our system is correct and maybe it is for us but it is not correct in some cultures.
    Abortion is murder if a human begins at conception. A woman has a right to her body but not the body of the fetist. She already made a mistake with her body, in most cases.

    • http://personalliberty.com Rudy

      re: post #94 May 28, 2009

      John, that’s the most refreshing thing I’ve read in a while. Couldn’t’ve said it better myself.

      Those who haven’t read it, please do- there is a great deal of simple truth in his words, and no BS.

      I recite the following passage, copied from a former employer’s office years ago:

      ****THE BOTTOM LINE****

      FACE IT Nobody owes you a living. What you achieve or fail to achieve in your lifetime is directly related to what you do -or- fail to do.

      No one chooses their parents or childhood but you can choose your own direction. Everyone has problems and obstacles to overcome, but that too is relative to each individual. Nothing is carved in stone; you can change anything in your life, if you want to badly enough.

      Excuses are for losers: Those who take responsibility for their actions are the real winners in life. Winners meet life’s challenges head-on, knowing there are no guarantees, and they give it all they’ve got.

      And never think that it’s too late or too early to begin; time plays no favorites and will pass whether you act or not.

      Take control of your own life. Dare to dream and take risks… Compete

      If you aren’t willing to work for your own goals, don’t expect others to.

      BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

  • http://personalliberty.com Rudy

    **THE BOTTOM LINE**

    FACE IT. Nobody owes you a living. What you achieve or fail to achieve in your lifetime is directly related to what you do -or- fail to do.

    No one chooses their parents or childhood but you can choose your own direction. Everyone has problems and obstacles to overcome, but that too is relative to each individual. Nothing is carved in stone; you can change anything in your life, if you want to badly enough.

    Excuses are for losers: Those who take responsibility for their actions are the real winners in life. Winners meet life’s challenges head-on, knowing there are no guarantees, and they give it all they’ve got.

    And never think that it’s too late or too early to begin; time plays no favorites and will pass whether you act or not.

    Take control of your own life. Dare to dream and take risks… Compete

    If you aren’t willing to work for your own goals, don’t expect others to.

    BELIEVE IN YOURSELF.

    I copied this from a plaque in the office of a former employer years ago. These are words to live by IMHO.

    I am not wealthy, and was born unto working class parents (small-time farmer and rancher). The fruits of their labor as well as mine belongs to us! We lived modestly and saved our money, investing it as wisely as we could. We lost a lot of it in the recent stock market crash, but bad as it was, we will survive -provided the government doesn’t tax us into poverty…

    • Coal Banks

      You were born into a middle-class, not a working class, family. Your family owned it’s means of production and had some control over it’s efforts & success or failure. (Granted gov’t. & larger corporate descisions had a great deal of effect on your family’s efforts& success.).The labourers on your family farm were working class.

  • s c

    The USSR [United Soviet Socialist(s) Republic] and WWII Germany [National Socialism] are history. That says something about socialist governments.
    As I understand it, the fact that these movements didn’t work then doesn’t mean that it won’t work here. Is this the message that we’ve been given for the last 80 years or so? After all, these plans and ideas were given to us in the name of ‘freedom,’ so maybe our great leaders had only the ‘best of intentions.’
    Some people call that ‘food for thought.’
    Sleep well, America.

  • http://n/a No Name

    The Scottish historian Alexander Tyler wrote:
    “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.”
    The US has reached tha point and is not likely to change.

    • Coal Banks

      Well said and couls be said for gov’ts other than the USA as well.

  • Coal Banks

    Corporate Welfare State: where corporations are given public funds after bankrupting themselves while working class citizens lose jobs/pensions: due to out-sourcing to cheaper work-forces in 3rd world countries, due to incompetant corporations going bankrupt. That is not Socialism or socialism. It is Corporate Welfare-ism and is as much a thret to individuals as some perceive Socialism/socialism to be. Brought to you by politicians of the Right & of the left – all bought & paid for by those same corporations.

  • Criss

    I don’t trust ANY of the media. Sorry to say that but it’s the truth, they all seem to report their viewpoints based on what will “sell” the news instead of based on truth. Talk about propaganda …

    Our government is so messed up right now it’s hard to tell WHERE it is headed. However, I do know the more micro-governmental control over the citizens of the U.S. our government does, the less personal freedoms we have and the farther away from the Constitution we seem to get.

    So to that end, I believe we are heading towards some kind of government that is not a democracy. I for one, want to see us return to “For The People, By The People” and away from “For the Politicians, By the Politicians”.

    I am registered Independent and did not vote for ANY of the primary candidates in the last presidential election. I felt they were all unrealistic and stuck on “mega bucks, with mega profits” and the illusion that any government is rich enough to do everything for everyone under every situation.

    The U.S.A.’s current situation has been compounding since we stepped away from the Constitution and started to attempt to micro-manage via government involvement. It is stupid to blame one president or congress, when ALL are responsible. We mistakenly took temporary fixes to immediate crisis’s and made them permanent laws and programs, etc. instead of keeping them temporary to get thru the crisis.

  • http://nicholsharvey50@yahoo.com harvey

    better believe our prez is a socoalist.if you dont believe it just wait six months .also your elected people dont listen to you WHY DO YOU KEEP VOTEING FOR THEM . iwill never again vote for anyone thats in office i will not vote for a lawyer they are why our country is in the mess its in . they have constructed the laws to benefit themselves. some day we are going to send an honest person to office and he or she. will bring everything out in the open. it will have to be done somewhere beside the nathional media wont it. seriously if we dont quit sending the same people back to washingtonit will never change. PLEASE STOP REELECTING THE SAME PEOPLE LETS TRY TO CHANGE THINGS . TRY TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY PLEASE

  • Dee Y

    Every one is warning that we are headed toward Socialism under Obama.
    Since I am a high school drop out, maybe I have not got the ability to understand what Socialism is. I was too ignorant to learn anything in the school of hard knocks. Please enlighten me you well educated people.
    My Government has always told me when I can work – when I cannot work – how much money I am allowed to take home – how much of my earnings I must pay in taxes (Federal – State – County and local) and a lot of other fees to keep everything running.
    GMC told me I must buy big gas guzzlers and they would not manufacture small economic vehicles for me to purchase. They are touting “BUY AMERICAN” now. The big three automobile manufacturers should be honest with us consumers and tell all their vehicles are assembled in America. Almost all components on and in our vehicles are imported from all over the world for the cheap labor, so they will make more and higher profits to have the big bucks to pay there stupid CEO’s.
    You people are not able to see the forest for the trees. So be willing to take your share of the blame for the mess we have created and Obama has inherited and do some constructive intelligent thinking and find ways to salvage our country.
    Enlighten me on just what kind of life I have been living for the past 70 years plus.
    It is not the lying politicians fault that has dictated my lifestyle. It has been big businesses and we voters who just keep putting the same pedophiles back in office. We who believe anything and everything we are told, rather than question the why’s of any administration. Then resort to finger pointing after the fact.
    Take a good hard look at the import and export quota’s. What consumers buy all the junk that is imported into this country instead of leaving it on the shelves? Try to find any American product now. No, lets just blame the Government that we voted into office, election after election and continue making China richer with our purchases. Yet everyone points the finger at anyone but themselves for the mess we have gotten ourselves into.
    WE AMERICAN BORN IMMIGRANTS ARE THE GUILTY ONES. Do you have any rational alternatives to straighten anything out? If you do – lets hear it.

  • homer

    The whole problem revolves arounf the fact that the U.S.Govt has its’ nose in everyones business and has its’ hands in commercial and medical and the auto business and doesn’t have its’ nose in the protection and defens e of the U.S. Costitution. All politicians swear to that protection and yet very few do ti, and certainly none at the top! The elected officials have SOLD this country to chins and India, and every other country and Americans are told to just shut up and be quite! BULL%$#& That is the fact! I/We served this country and this country should serve us in the congress and senate and on up to the speaker of the house and the Pres./V.P. etc. The problem is politicians are drawing America into a socialist regime and a new world destructive order! Of a TRUTH the ONLY thing men learn is that never learn anything by the past!!! The beatings cease when the lesson is learned!!! Homer/Suffolk

  • Jeff T

    Socialism these days may not look at all like marx’s socialism, or soviet style, or cuban style, it will be whatever can be “sold” to the voters.

    We aren’t headed for socialism, we are now deep into it, and it’s been coming at us for decades since the New Deal, and then The Great Society, etc. etc.

    Every time we expect Government to take care of our personal needs, personal financial problems, personal medical problems, personal retirement problems, we are asking for socialism. Step by step we are giving more control to government, and the ONLY way government can meet all these demands is to start taking money from one group and spreading it around to others.

    Friends, we aren’t headed for socialism, we are practing it now.

    Step back out of the forest, you’re all being blinded by individual issues, but taken as a whole, this forest of legislation, government agencies, taxation, programs, aid, care, social insurance, it’s all one huge collection of government intervention into your private lives.

    What is a conservative? It’s your family, the way most of you run your lives, you live within your means, you don’t get too far into debt, you have to weigh alternatives when deciding how to spend your money, you can’t buy everything you have to make prudent decisions. This is how a successful family operates, and stays healthy. This is why those of us who are conservative are upset with Republicans and Democrats, they don’t act prudently, they don’t weigh alternatives, they just want to do everything regardless of the cost.

    What the voters never ask is “Who’s going to pay for all this stuff?”

    At this point, it’s like two foxes and a chicken deciding what’s for dinner. The chicken doesn’t have a chance. We’ve being overrun by people who want more and more from government, but who contribute less and less to funding these programs, but the majority rules, and tyranny of the majority has taken us from a free enterprise system to a socialist system in steps, slowly but surely.

    Wake up, we’re not headed for socialism, we’ve arrived.

  • Big Bear, Bearsden, ID

    Forward thinking Americans are cutting the Socialists out already. Tax revenues are way down and it isn’t just the recession. The runaway spending in Washington is going to result in much higher taxes, and defiance in the form of a tax revolt from people who are fed up with the chronic lying and wasteful fiscal policies of politicians in both parties. Republicans/Democrats = same shite, different pile. The good news is the breakneck speed of Obama’s untested economic policies means the crash will come soon. OK, that doesn’t sound like good news, but to those of us who have prepared for this, it will be.
    Stock up on essentials and cut the Socialist parasites out of your life. Put your assets in untraceable tangible investments (gold, etc) and stay locked, loaded and level.

  • Winston

    I realy do not understand how those people in the house & senate ? Think for one second they know what I’m going though — out of work and bills up the ass , and there taxing me more & more / I’ve worked all my life and now I’m lost and what the hell am I to do . Man-O-Man this is not the country I fought for back in my day
    USN-RET Winston

  • James

    Everyone who believes that the USA is leaning towards socialism,”true socialism that is” is seriously lacking in knowledge as to what socialism is.In case you have forgotton, just recently the wealthiest people in the US were handed what may amount to trillions of dollars belonging to the American public.Since when in a socialist economy does the government give billions of dollars to the wealthiest of the capitalist interests while actualy reducing funding for social programs such as medicare and or social security ? In a socialist system public funds are funneled to private citezens via public or social programs which all the citizens of that respective socialist country are potentialy eligible for.Socialistic economies do not feature government give aways of public funds to only the most wealthy captians of capital while at the same time allowing the general public to loose their jobs,homes and savings. The privitisation of public infrastructure which began in earnest under Reagan continues unabated.No socialist country on earth alows the private capture of both public finances and the real wealth of that country.It is only in capitalist countries such as ours that the wealthy few grow ever wealthy at the expence of the many who toil to make ends meet.Only in this country would the people be so brainwashed as to mistake cronnie capitalism for socialism,even as the basic needs of the people become ever more difficult to secure.

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    • keith

      kiss my unsocialist anal area! if you know so much about it and love it so,then get your socialist keister out of my country,i did’nt serve 16 yrs in the marines to see my country turn socialist! your a traiter to everything the constitution stands for! you’ll be just another target in my rifle sights when the REAL patriots have had enough of you and your ilk ruining this nation!

  • jade

    Are you kidding ..lets see unemployment 10% Stimulus not helping, Car company bailout a waste of money, Health care reform will cost trillions and obama said we are already out of money, add cap and trade so your utility bills skyrocket those are Obama’s words he said to retofit the electic co to burn clean fuel is expensive and they will pass this cost to us, No taxes on anyone making under 250,000 per year axelrod said hmmm well we may have to revisit this one, Tax our health care benefits but not the benefits of the people in unions???? We are going down quickly osama bin laden wont attack us he doesn’t have to Obama is doing a great job in destroying america he just sits back and laughs at us. OBAMA NEEDS TO GO!!! CRIMES AGAINST AMERICA!!!!

  • http://none NANCY RAE K NITZBERG

    strong textong text*7/2/09

    I FEEL THE TALK SHOW RADIO AND TV HOST WHICH CRITIZE OBAMA AND DEMOCRATES SHOULD BE FIRED AND REPLACED URGENTLY BY FCC.

    INCLUDING ON WFTL RADIO AND WIOD RADIO THERE ARE TWO A MALE OUT OF TAMPA AND A WOMEN JOYCE KAUFMAN WHICH SUPPORT CARRYING GUNS WHICH ALSO SHOULD BE BANDED FROM SUPPORTING AND TALKING ABOUT ON THE AIR WAVES. THIS IS AGAINST MY OPINION AS BEING JUDGMENTAL AND RUDE AND INTIMIDATION PLUS.

    WHEN I WORKED FOR WCBM WHICH WAS A METROMEDIA, INC OWNED BY JOHN KUGE IN 60′S THIS WAS AGAINST FEDERAL LAW AND TALK SHOWS HAD TO STAY NEUTAL!

    THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE MOSTLY. I HAVE FILED COMPLAINTS WITH FCC REGARDING THE ABOVE – SEAN – MARK LEVIN – JOYCE – SNITZ – THANKS IN ADVANCE. THEY CUT THE PUBLIC OFF AS WILL AND INSULT THEM.

    NANCYANDK = JEWISH SENIOR LADY ON FIXED INCOME WHICH WAS SMASHED INTO AFTER HUR. WILMA ON 3/27/06 AND DEATH OF LOVED ONE MONTH AFTER 5/2/06 IN MALABAR BREVARD CTY AND THE JERK DID NOT TRY TO STOP WHEN HE SMASHED INTO US ON US1 AND HIS INS GMAC CLAIMS AND HE HAS NOT SATIFIED ME AT ALL STILL HAVE MECHANICAL ISSUES FROM THAT REAR END CRASH – AND HAVE TWO WITNESSES – RECEIVED EXCUSES FROM ATTORNIES SINCE THAN AND AFTER I TOOK THIS JERK TO COURT 2/14/7 IN MELBOURNE WHEN JUDGE ATKINS DENIED THEIR DISMISSAL AND TOLD ME TO GET AN ATTORNEY. STILL TRYING AND FILED COMPLAINTS WITH TALLAHASSEE..- NITZBERG – DDAY IS MY BIRTHDATE-

  • Dickie

    You have got to love the saps in Calif, pelosi,flys around in a goverment jet at a small price of $ 65,000.00 per wk, It was $30,000.00 but instead of trying to bail out her home state, She got $35,000.00 more because her cost of liveing went up, And we owe her the best of every thing, It is not that she is a servent of the little people, But she is there leader and she Queen of her peasants, She decides what is good for them, And the other clown boxer, Who also a big loser, Wants to be called sentor, Because she is a great leader in her own twisted mind, Thats why she was a TAX CHEET, She is better than her commers, The DEMON-CRAPS, Keeps putting these thugs back in office, Even though pelosi out told a damn lie to the world, If she was not a damn lier, You know this evil ass woman would NOT have STOPED, Until someone at the cia went to prison, or FIRED to save face, And if you don”t beleve that you are a complete IDIOT, MY GOD CALIF. THE HOLE WORLD sees that these women have broke you, While you are loseing your jobs,homes,your pride,They are fighting hard to give your lives to these illeagels, So they can just have their votes, for their good, Do you people have a state run puppet news networks, And don”t really know what is going on, They don”t give a damn about you, Can”t you people see that this globle warming is another scam to make money for gore and them, Look at the past anything,That is good for us is great for them, You voted for smaller govement,lower taxes, It didn”t matter to them they voted for them anyway, I”ll give you a hint get this trash out, & put someone else in you can”t lose, Please America & you don”t need this, Send the next person you decide your life not them.

  • Paul

    Cemott,
    Another typical liberal comment. Depending on which lib you listen to, first its the republicans that ran up the deficits, now you blame them for the cuts in spending leading to the failure of our infrastructure.
    I can tell you living in Atlanta, as home values soared, local govt continued to collect more and more in taxes, but did nothing to spend it on the infrastructure. ie the water and sewer system is a disaster. You can give government an unlimited budget and they will exceed it. What is needed is fiscal responsibility, not another Obama who duped the American public with his “stimulus” program which did nothing but pay back all those who elected him in office.

  • Skellykins

    Capitalisim is in it’s death throes. Viva de reveloution and power to the people.

    • keith

      advance the colors! give me liberty or death!

      • Brian Rawls

        If more people think like this we might get somewhere. I tell you this country needs a revolution but you will branded crazy for speaking the truth. Because people dont have the guts to do anything about it.

        • keith

          there IS one coming,and something WILL be done IF the cowed people who are silent sheep rise up and UNITE! only a strong show of force as a united front can we send obama and the ELECTED officials in office a message,they are already acutely aware of the tea party movement and it scares them,but i fear after these tea parties accommplish nada,they’ll go quiet again.the only way you’ll win a war is to keep up the pressure and push em,DRIVE ON PATRIOTS,GET SOME,DON’T QUIT,OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE,the consequences for doing almost nothing is to horrendous to contemplate! BOMBARD washington with letters,e-mails,calls and more calls,GET THEIR DAGGUMMED ATTENTION!,before this country gets embroiled in a civil war!
          stand up and fight for YOUR liberty! don
          t be silent!!!!!!!

        • keith

          check out the quotes! trying to remind people anyway i can!

  • keith

    heres some quotes to ponder upon……….
    -i think there is one higher office than president and i would call that patriot..gary hart
    -each man must for himself alone must decide what is right and what is wrong,which course is patriotic and which is’nt.you cannot shirk this and be a man.to decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor,both to yourself and to your country,let men label you as they may…mark twain
    -we have enjoyed so much freedom for so long that we are perhaps in danger of forgetting how much blood it cost to establish the bill of rights….felix frankfurter
    -we dare not forget that we are heirs of that first revolution….john f kennedy
    -”our country,rightn or wrong.”when right to be kept right;when wrong to be put right…carl schurz
    -of all the supervised conditions for life offered to man,those under u.s.a’s constitution have proved the best.wherefore,be sure when you start modifying,corrupting,or abrogating it………martin h fischer
    -those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom,must,like men,undergo the fatigue of supporting it………..thomas paine
    -liberty has never come from the government.liberty has always come from the subjects of it.the history of liberty is the history of resistance………woodrow wilson
    -men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks.their children,brought up easy,let it slip away again,poor fools.and their grandchildren are once more slaves…….d.h lawrence,classical american literature,1922
    -the greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal,well-meaning but without understanding……..louise d brandeis
    -the people never give up their liberties but under some delusion…..edmund burke

  • C C

    I hope all that are against the Obama Administration are writing their opinions to congress and your local newspapers. I live in a small community and many do not have access to the Internet or Fox News. They can only believe what the democratic controlled mainstream media is telling them. Your voice needs to be heard. I have also done my own research and have written my senator of my opinion of the Health Care Reform Plan. I have included a letter I have written to my local newspaper here.

    The Failed Promises of Government Funded Health Care
    Dear Editor,

    The American people need to be aware and research on their own how government controlled health care has failed in the past. And will continue to fail if our current administration is allowed to lead their destructive path. I have included my own research and have noted the quotes below.

    “Americans want reform but they want the right reform, not a reform that ends up costing them more for worse care than they already receive,” Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said in a Senate speech on Monday July 6th, 2009.
    “A government-run plan could force millions of Americans to give up the care they currently have and replace it with a system in which care is denied, delayed, and rationed,” he said.
    Once the government has a monopoly on all health care in America and the costs to the government have skyrocketed, the government will do what it has always done: use its power to ration services and increase taxes. This will result in inferior medical care for the American people.
    Once this rationing occurs, there will be no turning back. The government will be in complete control, as it is with Medicare and Medicaid. We need only ask Medicare or VA patients about the difficulties they face in trying to obtain payments for their medical care to understand what the end result will be. Denial of payment for care is simply rationing by another name. Furthermore, the evidence shows that government funded health care initiated at the state level, such as the programs in Massachusetts and Oregon, have failed miserably. We will likely have to consider the morgue as an integral part of any government health care system in the future. Article written by Frank S. Rosenbloom MD and posted at americanthinker.

    I know the statements above to be true because of my eight years of experience in administrative health care field. Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates are fixed. Meaning you cannot bill a patient’s secondary insurance if the services provided cost more than the allowed rate. Veterans Administration simply refuses to pay, the VA has always found ways to deny payment. Thousands of dollars have been written off the books because of Government controlled health care. There will be no quality care; physicians will simply deny services to Government public beneficiaries. This is happening now. Call your dentists and ask if they accept Medicaid. The answer will be NO.

    The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services has promulgated a 2.75 percent across-the-board rate reduction for home health services for 2008, 2009, and 2010, as well as a 2.71 percent cut for 2011. The 2.75 percent cuts scheduled for 2008 and 2009 have been implemented. Over the next five years (2009-2013) these cuts will reduce outlays for home health by $7.59 billion unless Congress blocks them. In February 2009, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) included MedPAC’s 2009 recommendations for deep cuts to home health as part of the Administration’s proposed FY 2010 budget. OMB also called for bundling of hospital and post acute care payments beginning in 2013. The home health cuts in the House Tri-committee health care reform proposal would take $51 billion over ten years from a Medicare benefit that expends about $16.4 billion per year ($1billion less than in 1997) and under control in terms of expenditure growth (see chart below).• Currently, about one third of Medicare home health agencies (HHAs) have negative Medicare profit margins (Medicare pays less than the cost of providing care). The National Association for Home Care & Hospice (NAHC) has calculated as many as 1 million beneficiaries could lose services and that by 2011, nearly two-thirds of home health agencies will have negative Medicare profit margins if MedPAC’s proposed freeze, accelerated CMS regulatory cuts, and rebasing of payment rates are implemented.

    American’s must be informed and learn the truth. Write your legislators to oppose Government Controlled Health Care. Democrats are scurrying to get their bills passed by August. The sooner they do this the less people will know the truth of their proposed monopolized public health care.

  • james

    An intelligent author wrote; America is on a fast rack at jet speed toward Socialism. Let me off at the next airport named Independence and meet me at the gate marked FREEDOM! Socialism holds nothing but unhappiness for all of us; it destroys personal initiative, wipes out national pride, and destroys wealth. Socialism is a fraud and if and when it comes all freedom loving Americans won’t like it. Lenin addressed the Congress of the Soviets in 1917 and said; “We shall now proceed to construct the Socialist order”! Americans better wake up and take the fool’s cap off. The democrats with their monstrous views and venomous insane polices are expounding dumb mutterings into the America we all love. In America, the majority rules, and the last election proved that the fool’s are in the majority!

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      and the democrats keep growing the government, and making it more powerful, and a government big enough to give you everything, is also big enough to take it away. And they do and they will.

  • Dickie

    I just want to KNOW WHO OWNS AMERICA US OR THEM, WE CAN SET AROUND AND WINE & JUST TAKE CRAP OR WE CAN TAKE IT BACK HOPEFULY, BEFORE THEY TURN FULL CUMMUNIST, THE JEWISH PEOPLE DID NOT THINK IT WOULD EVER HAPPEN TO THEM< BUT LOOK WHAT HAPPEN, DON’T LAUGH ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, I DON’T CARE WHAT PARTY YOU ARE LET US SHOW THEM WHAT CHANGE REALLY IS, WE SURE DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO LOSE.

  • Linda Roberts

    Every President decides which advisors he will listen to. This President has been fixated on doing the impossible based on his own personal ego and ideology, not on facts and reality. He has been a brilliant marketer of his abilities, however a huge failure as a Leader.

    President Obama has relied on the majority of uneducated poor and very needy people to believe in him. He has exploited them and sold the Country down the river with extreme socialistic, power grabbing, destructive agendas.

    He will need to stand and be judged when the sad realities of his Socialistic policies continue to fail and the economy continues to destroy families in a downward spiral.

    This is not sacrifice for the overall good of our people as he has purported. This is a frightening and devastating blow to ALL of us from the richest to the poorest by stealing our inherent inalienable rights.

    We are in a fast moving race towards a complete state of Socialism.

    The sad fact is that the majority does not even begin to fathom how their daily lives will be effected. They will…and when the betrayal becomes more and more clear the pendulum will swing as it always does in History. Betrayal is not taken lightly by the majority of Americans.

    When the real the costs of the wreckless spending, anti-constitution and “Big Government” mentality finally takes its unforgiveable toll…the present “majority” will rise and rebel. That may take a year or two and be too late!

    We will need at least a decade to recover from the damage President Obama has wreaked on our economy and individual rights in a few short months! The best and most practical economic survival solution is Impeachment.

    Pelosi, the grande dame of Socialism and her co-horts should be found through investigative process…guilty of lies and betrayal to the American People and swept out the door. Time has come to stop talking about it and just do it!

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      And on top of all this, this president is an avowed racist. He hung with an avowed racist pastor for 20 years, though he says he didnt know it (right), and now he plays the race card when this Harvard professor is arrested, as did this Harvard professor. You would think that guys in these so called “Higher positions”, would be a little wiser, and think about what the police saw here. A report of a black man breaking into a house, which he was doing and did, and the cops show up, and he immediately gets beligerant with them and starts playing the race card. Hey, Im a cop, Im told of a break in, I get there and see the break in, and here is the guy inside, and Im not going to believe that he lives there and broke into his own house. Im going to protect myself and detain and handcuff the guy then sort it out, but this dude went all racist on the the guy. Then the president makes the quote “I dont know what role race played in this.”. That is totally unbecoming of a man in the office of the presidency. The cop did his job, and kept himself safe, and you the president, play the race card. This totally pisses me off, and Im one white guy that is tired of hearing it. OJ killed his white wife and and got away with it because he is black. That is the only reason. Jesse Jackson can go on TV and scream heimy at the Jewish people, and he gets away with it because he is black. Al Sharpton can go on TV and radio and scream white honkeys, which is the equivalent of a white guy yelling “black niggers”, and he gets away with it because he is black. I am calling out anyone of you, who says that this is not true, and that this is all right, Im calling you out and labeling you a racist, because if you agree with this behavior, then yes, you are a racist, and so are these guys. I choose to take the Martin Luther King approach, and judge a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, this Harvard Professor, and now Barrack Obama, cannot do that. They see in color, and shame on them. Shame shame on them. Racists.

  • Oscar Pearson

    DUH! You really think so? How could you not see where we are headed? It is unbelievable how these guys have been given free “reign” to destroy America as we know it.
    It is time to impeach them all for being “traitors” to this great country. We could do a lot better if we just threw them all out of office. Time for a revolution just like the one that started it all.

  • ole hunter

    Socialism Verses Corporatism !
    Conservatives are Corporate Owned and Operated … AKA Corporatists.
    Liberals such as Obama are driven by what happened in the past and wants to adjust the future to make up for the injustices he has seen in the past by adjusting our society into a equality based society using fear AKA Socailism.

    Conservatives and Liberals are now using fear and propaganda to direct the horrified Main Stream Morons in the direction they both want them to go, simular to a sheep herder herding sheep.

    America now has a choice, live under a Big Business owned goverment or a goverment that owns Big Business make your choice.

    Take some time and read Chinas Constitution , it is their law of the land simular to our constitution and if the Corporatists keep in the direction they are continuing it may soon be our new constitution!!!!!

  • James Corbin

    Thanks, Linda Roberts1111

  • James Corbin

    Right-on Delores!

  • Dickie

    I wonder is their NO ONE DECENT IN MASS, To put in office,UP THERE!. I know there has to be somebody,That is not corrupt, These people need to take the media blocking radar down, These people has the most corrupt parasites, In goverment, I though MASS. Was in the UNITED STATES, They don’t relize that ted’s bulls— health care has fell, Their tax”es are to high, All the while they keep putting these parasite, thives,& liers, Back in office, Only if they would just try to get away from the goverment media, They could see what the rest of us see, Iknow there is some good people up there, To vote all the trash they got out,Before it is to late.

  • http://personallibertydigest Ann M

    I agree Dickie as a Mass resident, taxes are too high, the corruption is crazy. what do you expect, the majority is democrats, and the state is run by liberal democrats! that should answer everything…The older generation still thinks the democrats are like years ago and keep voting the same people in. It’s frustratings and very costly, we feel like we are in a time warp of the Carter Administration..Just stupid people (and I hate that word) running the whole state! And now a president that goes along with it…I’m frightened

  • http://personalliberty.com Lee

    I’ve lived under and fled a totalitarian dictatorship and I see the signs of one coming. The mechanism for achieving that is simple. Collect all the information on everone and manipulated it. The only way to gather all of the information on individuals is through nationalized healthcare. For instance – the tax system does not include every individual since not everyone pays taxes. Nor does the census or voter records since not everyone votes or was counted. But everyone needs a doctor, sooner or later. It’s remarkable how naive, idealistic and ignorant the majority of people seem to be – as a result of a wealthy society, free markets, and total freedom, more or less.
    Carter was ellected as a vote “against” the republicans because of Watergate and Vietnam (a war started by JFK and escallated by LBJ). BO was ellected as a vote against, again, the republicans because of the financial meltdown which would have mostlikely been avoided if the dems did not get in Bush’s way at every turn, and the Iraq war which should have ended some time ago. There has never been a favorable “vote against” in any ellections that’s generated successful presidencies. This current one will prove that theory as well, except that the hole is digging for us all will be that much harder to come out of. No society can ever succeed to its potential without adequate incentives for all, freedom of choice and free enterprise. Catering to the lowest common denominator only supports dictators, and we got one in the making!

  • Michelle

    Hi all, this may have nothing to do with the subjecty at hand but I wanted anyone and everyone to read this letter to Mr. Obama fro a school teacher A big fat amen to her read on

    Mr. Obama:
    I have had it with you and your administration, sir. Your conduct on your
    recent trip overseas has convinced me that you are not an adequate
    representative of the United States of America collectively or of me
    personally.
    You are so obsessed with appeasing the Europeans and the Muslim world that
    you have abdicated the responsibilities of the President of the United
    States of America . You are responsible to the citizens of the United
    States . You are not responsible to the peoples of any other country on
    earth.
    I personally resent that you go around the world apologizing for the
    United States telling Europeans that we are arrogant and do not care about their
    status in the world. Sir, what do you think the First World War and the
    Second World War were all about if not the consideration of the peoples of
    Europe ? Are you brain dead? What do you think the Marshall Plan was all
    about? Do you not understand or know the history of the 20th century?
    Where do you get off telling a Muslim country that the United States does
    not consider itself a Christian country? Have you not read the
    Declaration of Independence or the Constitution of the United States ? This country
    was founded on Judeo-Christian ethics and the principles governing this
    country, at least until you came along, come directly from this heritage.
    Do you not understand this?
    Your bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia is an affront to all Americans.
    Our President does not bow down to anyone, let alone the king of Saudi
    Arabia . You don’t show Great Britain, our best and one of our oldest
    allies, the respect they deserve yet you bow down to the king of Saudi
    Arabia .. How dare you, sir! How dare you!
    You can’t find the time to visit the graves of our greatest generation
    because you don’t want to offend the Germans but make time to visit a
    mosque in Turkey .. You offended our dead and every veteran when you give the
    Germans more respect than the people who saved the German people from
    themselves. What’s the matter with you?
    I am convinced that you and the members of your administration have the
    historical and intellectual depth of a mud puddle and should be ashamed of
    yourselves, all of you.
    You are so self-righteously offended by the big bankers and the American
    automobile manufacturers yet do nothing about the real thieves in this
    situation, Mr. Dodd, Mr. Frank, Franklin Raines, Jamie Gorelic, the Fannie
    Mae bonuses, and the Freddie Mac bonuses. What do you intend to do about
    them? Anything? I seriously doubt it.
    What about the U.S. House members passing out $9.1 million in bonuses to
    their staff members – on top of the $2.5 million in automatic pay raises
    that lawmakers gave themselves? I understand the average House aide got a
    17% bonus. I took a 5% cut in my pay to save jobs with my employer. You
    haven’t said anything about that. Who authorized that? I surely didn’t!
    Executives at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will be receiving $210 million in
    bonuses over an eighteen-month period, that’s $45 million more than the
    AIG bonuses. In fact, Fannie and Freddie executives have already been awarded
    $51 million – not a bad take. Who authorized that and why haven’t you
    expressed your outrage at this group who are largely responsible for the
    economic mess we have right now.
    I resent that you take me and my fellow citizens as brain-dead and not
    caring about what you idiots do.
    We are watching what you are doing and we are getting increasingly fed up
    with all of you.
    I also want you to know that I personally find just about everything you
    do and say to be offensive to every one of my sensibilities.
    I promise you that I will work tirelessly to see that you do not get a
    chance to spend two terms destroying my beautiful country.
    Sincerely,
    Every real American
    P.S. I rarely ask that emails be ‘passed around’………….PLEASE SEND
    THIS TO YOUR EMAIL LIST……it’s past time for all Americans to wake up!

    Ms Kathleen Lyday
    Fourth Grade Teacher
    Grandview Elementary School
    11470 Hwy. C
    Hillsboro, MO 63050
    (636) 944-3291 Phone
    (636) 944-3870 Fax

  • NANCY VANTWIST

    Perhaps many of you don’t know the history of the United States at all. Perhaps it’s because so many have ‘immigrated’ to our country w/o bothering to learn what has transpired in the past. As for ‘socialism’…during the Great Depression President Roosevelt established the CCC and other helpful organizations…nobody shouted “Socialism” then as many of those organizations ‘saved our people and this country’. My guess would be that those who ‘shout the most’ need to get an educaion in the ‘HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY’ instead of going off half cocked!!!

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