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Major Energy Companies Pullout Of Climate Coalition

February 22, 2010 by  

Major energy companies pullout of climate coalition Caterpillar, ConocoPhillips and BP America announced last week that they are leaving the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, a coalition of more than two dozen environmental groups and businesses lobbying for climate change legislation.

Officials from BP America and ConocoPhillips said that they are pulling out of the alliance because the bills circulating in Congress are unfair to American industry and will deter growth in the transportation sector.

"House climate legislation and Senate proposals to date have disadvantaged the transportation sector and its consumers, left domestic refineries unfairly penalized versus international competition and ignored the critical role that natural gas can play in reducing GHG emissions," said ConocoPhillips chief executive Jim Mulva.

He added that his company will focus on developing a lower-emission fuel as well as natural gas to help reduce emissions and create jobs, according to The Wall Street Journal.

BP America spokesman Ronnie Chappell noted that the bills’ allowance structure for coal-burning electric utilities would soften the demand for natural gas and would make the carbon market much more volatile.

The push for climate change reform has slowed over the past few months due to bipartisan skepticism regarding cap-and-trade legislation and controversy concerning the science behind global warming.
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  • Jim

    Thank you wise people. Along with Arizona and its withdrawal from an economically damaging climate coalition, there are finally some who are willing to stand against the bad “science” that is trying to drive bad policy. CO2 is not a pollutant and we now need to reign in the EPA and reverse their BAD POLICY of declaring CO2 as a pollutant and threatening to regulate CO2 by creating onerous regulations that are economy killers. The EPA has enough of those kind of regulations already.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Well duh! If the weather we have experienced this year is all part of global warming, then we better brace ourselves for global cooling. Any fool can see that there is no basis to ‘global warming’!

  • Norm
    • George E.

      Norm,

      Thanks for the reference. This is a serious, but very complicated issue. I think it’s a good thing that scientists are evaluating the possible effect of man-made emissions on the environment. However, it looks to me like it’s just too soon to declare the result of this study, one way or the other. My confidence in the results so far is low because the models aren’t very good, and the data is suspect, at a minimum, not to mention the various manipulations of both that was recently discovered.

      I just don’t understand why scientists aren’t getting their temperature data from satellites rather than from ground-level weather stations. It seems to me that satellite data would be consistently uniform, and possibly more accurate than ground-level data, which are set up and maintained by each country without global standards or independent evaluation. This is why the integrity of the data is suspect, I believe.

      While I am skeptical that man-made emissions, especially CO2, are having an impact on our climate, I admit that I don’t know for sure. It would be comforting to hear those who don’t agree with my skepticism admit that they don’t know either. If we could reach that point in our discussion, we could probably also agree to fund independent scientific research to try to find out the answer to this question, without bias one way or the other. However, so long as politicians are involved, and are trying to drive us to a consensus and new world order before the science is completed, it just undermines the credibility of the whole process. This topic has become a political issue rather than a scientific issue where it belongs, in my opinion.

      • DaveH

        It is enlightening George to know that in the early 1970s, the environmental fanatics were warning about Global Cooling.
        This is a power trip. That is all.

        For good information:
        http://climatedepot.com/

        • Joe H.

          DaveH,
          I read where the temps were so low in the south it caused shrimp to die. So much for Gorebull warming!!!!

    • DaveH

      What a bunch of dribble, Norm. From your link:
      “Maybe the term global warming is a little misleading, and maybe the term climate change should be used instead. However, scientists say it is the increase in the greenhouse gases, and thus global warming, that causes the climate to change.”

      Talk about the ultimate Liberal Equivocation! Every time the climate changes (which is everyday) they can now say “see, we are right”. You Liberals are nauseating.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html?ITO=1490

      • Norm

        DaveH
        There are advocates for every point of view. Even O.J. had convincing defense lawyers. The melting ice at the poles is pretty convincing. My feeling is that we need to proceed slowly.
        Your Rush Limbaugh attitude, based on a minority scientific evidence isn’t a slam dunk by any means. Incidently, Rush still doesn’t believe smoking is hazardous to your health.

        • DaveH

          Yes, the ice has been melting at the poles – every summer.
          I don’t even listen to Rush. I certainly wouldn’t listen to you.

          http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6548

        • John

          Norm,

          You admitted it, right here on your own post, “Even OJ had convincing defense lawyers”.

          Need I say more?

      • DaveH

        Here’s a good article on the nature of Environmentalists:
        http://blog.mises.org/archives/005910.asp

        • Michael J.

          DaveH,
          Enviromentalist = Antihumanism How do you converse with those who relish the thought of the extinction of their own species? These same people also hate America and all it stands for. I have a bumper sticker on my truck which reads, “Save the Humans… Plant a Tree Hugger”.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Great bumper sticker, Michael J. Where can I get one?

            Fed Up Gal

  • zeke

    What ever happened to 3rd grade science and photosynthesis. Plant more trees and other plants that will change CO2 to oxygen for us to breath! Al Gore is not smarter than a 5th grader.

    • DaveH

      Actually Zeke, the trees have been discovered to give off Methane Gas which is a much more potent Greenhouse Gas than is Carbon Dioxide.
      This is going to get the Environmental Radicals all tied up. What a web they have woven:
      http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0119/p13s01-sten.html

  • Harold

    Al Gore is in this strictly for what he can make from false science. He is nothing more than a moron who has taken advantage of other morons who believe his bolonia (misspelled according to Gore’s mentality.) Someone needs to do something to take care of these fools and expose them for what they are. “anti-American socialists. I include Reid, Polousy, Obama and the three stooges, Immanual, Gibbs and Axlerod.

  • http://aol borderlinedevill

    did man kind create the ice age?

    • Warrior

      Of course as well as Toyota’s.

      • DaveH

        Don’t forget Al Gore’s Internet.

  • J.D.

    I have done my own research on the issue of “climate change” and it seems to me that it isn’t really about climate change as it is about MONEY. Gores’ company owns 10% stock in Camco International Ltd. Who is Camco International Ltd, you ask? It is the main company for carbon credits. Thats where you will purchase them, basically. Gore is also a chairman in the company Generation Investment Management who is big in investments in China and India. Where are all the jobs going that won’t come here due to “climate laws”? You guessed it, China and India! Now I don’t mind someone getting rich in America, but I do mind someone creating a false disaster so they can get rich off it. The predictions by Obamas’ own budget for the amount of taxes that the gov. will pass down to consumers (you and I) is roughly 640,000,000 in one year. And this carbon credit nonsense is basically “air in a jug”. It doesn’t reduce carbon emmissions, it just allows traders in the market to bully companies around. If a company buys them, it just lets them pollute more and allows the government restrict them unless they can pay. But since China and India don’t have to play by these rules, companies will go over there to manufacture. So, basically, America will lose jobs to 3rd world countries, Gore and an elite few get rich bullying big corps and you and I, aside from losing our jobs to overseas labor and non “green” countries, we still get to pay the government for the “privilege” of paying to clean up the environment that the other countries got to make the money on, and in the end, the “Supposed climate Change” will still be happening, just like it has been since the beginning of time. Only, by the time we realize that it was just a scam, the few who made up this scam will have gotten rich, our government will have gotten more control over us and it will have been our own fault for not looking around us and using our common sense and realizing right now that it is just a smoke screen. Its just another “ENRON” in a different form. Only now the government will want its piece of the pie.

    • Michael J.

      J.D.
      That sums it up pretty well.

    • DaveH

      Thank you JD for all your effort.

    • Joe H.

      J.D.,
      Now you know why gore made 300,000,000 dollars since leaving office. Of course that was as of last year, it’s probably a lot higher now!!!

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      J.D.,

      Excellent. Thanks for your input!

      Fed Up Gal

  • Jackie

    Info below from: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html

    Average global temperatures in the Early Carboniferous Period were hot- approximately 20° C (68° F). However, cooling during the Middle Carboniferous reduced average global temperatures to about 12° C (54° F). As shown on the chart below, this is comparable to the average global temperature on Earth today!

    Similarly, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the Early Carboniferous Period were approximately 1500 ppm (parts per million), but by theMiddle Carboniferous had declined to about 350 ppm – comparable to average CO2 concentrations today!
     Earth’s atmosphere today contains about 380 ppm CO2 (0.038%). Compared to former geologic times, our present atmosphere, like the Late Carboniferousatmosphere, is CO2- impoverished! In the last 600 million years of Earth’s history only the Carboniferous Period and our present age, the Quaternary Period,have witnessed CO2 levels less than 400 ppm.
     

    • Warrior

      Heresy! We must save the bears, TSA workers, outdoor hockey rinks, snowmen, Christmas with snow. Disputing global warming is proposterous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Besides it’s down right un-AmeriKan.

  • dean

    That is probably why these other companies are bailing on the climate coalition. “Rats deserting a sinking ship” kind of thing. Now that people are starting to want the whole truth about why not all the data was being used.This needed bad science to prove it, for there is nothing to prove! I would hate to be the one holding the bag when the American people realize it was all a hoax! And these same companies that are bailing have a lot of overseas industry already. Why not push for regs on it if you already have a place to move to that doesn’t have regs and buy carbon credits to gouge other companies who don’t. If the companies who can’t buy the carbon credits fall, it just makes a stronger market for the ones that can build in non-green countries. What a beautiful scheme!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, before you say, Oh they wouldn’t think that far ahead, don’t kid yourself. Why else would someone like Caterpillar, who lives to burn diesel, be all for carbon credits, unless they are gonna make a pretty penny on it and eliminate some competition along the way? Don’t ever take politicians or big corps. at face value. They don’t do things for your best interests unless they can make a huge profit. And if they wanted to clean up the environment , why don’t they support U.S. agriculture and in turn support biofuels? For the same reason the electric trains were pulled and discarded in the early and mid 20th century. They don’t use Fossil fuels!! Look in to who bought up and bookshelfed all the old electric trains. You will see it was the oil companies of the time. Electric trains could pull more than the diesel engines of today. going down hills they also generated electricity back to their power sources. They were efficient and green, and yet, I surprise so many people that didn’t even know we used to have them! This “Global Warming” alarmist stuff is all bull! Its a scheme that, if followed trough on, will make any ponzie scheme that we have seen so far look like childs play.

    • dean

      Speaking of biofuels, over in Logan, MT, about an 2 hours away from where I am, some Texas based company is making ethanol out of corn. Corn is running, over here for about $170 a ton. They are buying the corn and making the ethanol and selling the by-product to the ranchers for feed at $170 a ton. So they are basically getting the corn to make ethanol for free. And they can’t keep it on the shelf! The reason is that through the process of making ethanol with corn is that it removes the starch and sugars and leaves the proteins. So, a ton of corn/ethanol by product will have more protein than a ton of regular corn. And protein, my friend is what the rancher wants most to feed to his cows that are on range or hay. Proteins promote growth in a fetus of a gestating bovine. It also helps transform food into energy more efficiently, especially, when it is 20 below zero! A lot of ranchers over here have been promoting global warming for years, but every year it still gets colder than a brass cup in a freezer. Tired of calving or lambing in the cold,I guess. But anyway, back to ethanol. Anyone who says ethanol is too expensive to make is crazy. And it is a renewable resource. And pure grain alcohol, contrary to popular rumors has more humph! than regular gas. If you want simple proof, watch top fuel dragsters in Denver and find out why they don’t us92 octane in their engines. And you can run it without any modifications to your stock vehicle. I ran it in a 1973 chevy 454 for 100,000 miles. The fuel was home made, pure grain. The only difference besides more power was I didn’t have and impurity or carbon build up in my cylinders and plugs.

      • DaveH

        Yeah, I guess we are crazy to expect the environmental solutions to be cost effective or even to work:
        http://reason.org/news/show/resurrection-of-ethanol-mandat

      • Joe H.

        dean,
        You want biofuels, try checking out the biofuels made from alge from settling ponds. that doesn’t use a food source and is a problem in water treatment plants across the nation! They are already using it in one of the south American countries!!

  • Dale

    Recommended reading: THE CHILLING STARS by Henrik Svensmark and Nigel Calder, Icon, 2007. And a bit of irony: Since this was published, the sun has gone practically bald when we should be only a year or two away from the solar maximum. Don’t look at the sun, but you can watch it on the net site of the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, SOHO (sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov). Of particular interest is the solar wing gage. If my gas gage looked like that, I would looking for gas pumps.

    Did the apple really fall on Newton’s head? I don’t know, but he really was on the farm instead of the campus. Why? To avoid the plague which in turn was associated with wdespread immune supression, in turn associated with malnutrition, in turn famine, crop failures, cold climate.

    Isaac Newtons life roughly spanned the Little Ice Age which was roughly the same as the Maunder Sunspot Minimum (about 1645 to 1715). People have done well on the earth in warmer weather. They have suffered during the cold periods.

  • http://gmail Lone Rider

    As for biofuels, deisel canbe made animal fat, ethonal can be made from many tyoes fof material. Wood chips, grasses, milo “maize type of grain that has more resistance to drought and higher sugars”, lawn grass just to name a few. But we have been paying billion to farmers to idle ground and get rich off the government, for wildlife habitate. Ever since 1982 infact. The farm ground that usued to produce wheat,corn, feed grain, and feed lays idle. So now after getting paid to do nothing farmers can charge $175- $300 a day per person to hunt, that is double dipping you and I. Usually the hunter are the eleitist bankers, investment groups and oversea moneied people. As for oil check the Williston Basin on USGS findings. We have a oil pipeline being planned from Canada to the gulf. This area has at least 25 times more oil than Prudue bay find in 1968. Why don’t we put on the market or trade to Chinia to pay off our debt? Why the progressive Dems and some Reps. buy in to the quick going green bull crap. We can change over to green and electric if we stop all the envior studies and government dionks that slow progress. We have several power plants the were to start producing electricity, with wind power and latest coal powered generating plants. We have now power grid for wind generators, and Obyee and his nut jobs stopped every thing imediately. Buzzard Breathe and his menions have really screwed up our country. How is change going???

    • DaveH

      To sum it all up – Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

      • Norm

        DaveH
        People who roam the earth with their heads up their butts are the problem.

        • DaveH

          Then quit roaming Norm.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Dave H,

            LoL…funnny. You just don’t stop, do you Dave? Ha Ha Ha…so funny.

            Fed Up Gal

    • Joe H.

      Lone Rider,
      You should have seen the site that was telling about the biggest solar energy plant in the world that was supposed to be built in the desert of Kalifornia, this thing was huge!! It was stopped by environazies to protect a tortoise and a desert lizard!!! A freakin’ turtle and a lizard!!!!! Talk about having your priorities skewed!!!

      • chuck b

        joe

        your wrong about the enviro’s. they are only a tool of the power companies and big investors. keeping power sources to a minimum keeps prices up and big money coming in to the companies and investors on the commodities market. i believe the enviros are supplemented by these same people that are crying wolf all the time. most of them are to ignorant and understand little of what they do. you notice the power companies (oil companies) live on chaotic happenings throughout the world, if one isn’t happening by natural causes they will create one. watch when prices take a dip, some arab trips and breaks his leg and the oil field is shut down or a nigerian rebel fires a shot at someone, they have all kinds of chaotic things they can turn to that is profitable to them. global warming was a godsend and if you could find out i’ll bet that goof ball gore made lots of money along with george soros on the energy market. so the whole thing comes down to keeping the source of energy to a minimum and profits to a maximum.

        • Joe H.

          chuckb,
          I don’t care who you say they are a tool of, I still think their priorities are screwed!!!

  • Patrick

    Right now I am 50 years old. I remember even back in such ancient times that it was taught in grade school that animals emit CO2 and plants need CO2 to survive and plants Emit Oxygen. Deforestation is more of a danger than the cars and everything else hurting the ecologic cycle. Everyone, just plant a tree. If everyone planted a tree maybe we’ll have another ice age.

    Global warming is a farce, that is being used to line its proponents pockets with taxpayer dollars. Abolish the EPA because its policies although some of them are good most are sending this country back to the Stone age Economically speaking. Another thing. Let the fishermen keep the fish they catch. Catch and release policy DESTROYS them.

    • Joe H.

      Patrick,
      You want an example of the EPAs idiocy? Take the emissions testing in Ohio. It’s only in certain counties and the counties that don’t have it are right next to the ones that do. About 50% of the vehicles thst are driven in say Cuyahoga county are driven from the counties that don’t have the tests and THEY are polluting just as much as the cars in county!!!

  • http://SRT Kevin W.345

    The other day some regressive liberal claimed that the climate has nothing to do with the weather. Screwy or what?

  • s c

    Some corporations have what it takes to tell Obummer what he can do with his climate coalition scam. A functional corporation can’t afford to listen to big government flunkies who know nothing about business (or have a hard time with reality).
    I’m eagerly awaiting the response of UMW coal miners when Obummer and mouth-flapper Joe try to eliminate the coal industry. As I recall, most coal miners are union members.
    Apparently, some union members are more ‘equal’ than others. They, like many voters in Kennedy Land, may learn the hard way what ‘hope’ and ‘change’ really mean. Obummer and Joe might want to look up ‘loyalty’ and ‘turnabout’ if they can find a good dictionary.

  • eddie47d

    Conoco/Catepiller are making decisions that are best for them.I believe they will rejoin the Climate Change Partnership after all the dust settles. Michael J.; You said it yourself. “How do you converse with those who relish the thought of the extinction of their own species”. That be you ,And the games have just begun! Lowering pollution standards,ect. will reverse our living longer. You must be one of those anti-environmental fellows we read about who dumps toxic waste in our rivers in the middle of the night. J.D. says he wants us to be like 3rd world nations and keep polluting and destroying the environment to make a buck.When there are numerous better solutions. These other countries can have their filthy landscapes. I’ll take America anyday. We should be more concerned about the U.S. Chamber of Commerce which has been telling Americans how to think for years now.They are heavily envolved in right wing political ads. Apple,Exelon,Pacific Gas,PNM Utility are pulling out of of this organization because of it’s extremisms.Even G.E. is withdrawing because of it’s overbearing control on what it’s members think.

  • Warrior

    Mark this date on your calendars – I predict with the investment by GOV into high speed rail, all the interstate highways will become tollways. Drivers will have to be forced off the roads by Gov to make this investment viable. Don’t forget where you heard it first!

  • George E.

    Just to throw more gasoline on the fire, here’s an interesting article that may give you pause on the subject of global warming, especially if you’re already a skeptic. http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2010/02/75-reasons-to-be-skeptical-of-global.html

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