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Made Elsewhere? Everything But Corporatocracy

July 1, 2011 by  

Made Elsewhere? Everything But Corporatocracy

If there’s one thing President Barack Obama does well, it’s talk (as long as his teleprompter is handy). On Tuesday, as part of his never ending re-election campaign, Obama spouted more empty rhetoric from a manufacturing plant in Bettendorf, Iowa.

“You had to up your game,” Obama said to the workers. “And that’s what we’ve got to do as a country as a whole. I want the cars and planes and wind turbines of the future to bear the proud stamp that says ‘Made in America.’”

It all sounds good, if only he really meant it. But as long as the Federal tax code, Obama and the agencies he oversees — Environmental Protection Agency, National Labor Relations Board, Food and Drug Administration and Department of Agriculture in particular — and the Obamacare healthcare law continue to overregulate small business and stifle entrepreneurism, “Made in America” will be supplanted by “Made Elsewhere.”

And what is particularly egregious is that multinational corporations continue to enjoy tremendous tax breaks that encourage them to take their manufacturing oversees while they enjoy their seats at the table of corporatocracy.

Talk is cheap, and knocking down corporatocracy would be expensive for Obama and the political elites — Republican and Democrat alike — that feed at that trough. But if Obama truly wanted to put Americans back to work creating cars, planes, ridiculous and inefficient wind turbines and thousands of other items, he would quit talking, start reining in those anti-business government agencies and regulations, and end the subsidies that encourage companies to take their manufacturing elsewhere.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • ron

    Ronald Regan was the king of the tele-prompter and when he did not have one ,which was not offten he was as lost as he qwas with it.

    • TIME

      little r,

      Your post was a 100% complete waste of space, as well it clearly displays what an ignorant little worthless eater you are.

      • skippy

        kudos Time…!!! :D

        • Richard

          Yes, Reagan knew that when free trade inhibited Made in America – you stop it – and he did. He talked a big game for free trade but when it hurt us he did stop it. Some of the problems in the article are that we could have a clean environment along with manufacturing if the ignorant free trade were removed from the equation. Manufacturers competing in country would be on equal footing. We don’t have to destroy our own environment to have manufacturing – because we don’t have to compete with countries that do. That doesn’t mean every single regulation is good but having clean water and food is a pretty good idea. Obama talking about actually returning to being a worthwhile nation is good even if he is talking out his butt since in reality he is the same as the other big con in the game called the US Chamber of Commerce that constantly fights eliminating the very tax loop holes that pay companies to send jobs away.

        • Dave R

          Everyone has it wrong. They are all Crooks. What Prez in the last 30 years has not used the phrase New World Order. The One World Government is on its way, Wake up sheeple americans.

          • bryan richards

            We need a labor party to represent all workers,(to establish tariffs etc. and make a tax system that dosent favor the rich) a more restrictive imigration (migration) system as long as we have high unemployment.
            We need to exile felons to be humane and to get ric of the prohibitive cost of maintaining them.

      • Old Henry

        TIME:

        Maybe Jovi / Jeremy / flashman got a new ISP…

    • Doc Sarvis

      ron,
      You’ll note that, though TIME tries to devalue you, he could not deny your accurate assessment of Regan.

      • Bob

        I’ll same Time the trouble of saying “ditto” to you. You are as ignorant as ron and as big a liar as anyone here. Reagan was a better man on his worst day than all you scumocrats put together on your best day.

        • Doc Sarvis

          So easy to throw insults – So hard to back them up.

          • DaveH

            Well in your very short comment, you can’t even spell Reagan correctly.
            And you stick up for a man’s ignorant statement about Reagan, when we have this about Obama:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

          • Bob

            Then back up your insulting comments about Reagan, hotshot. He helped America, Maobama and the scumocrats like you are destroying America. Of course, that all depends on one’s viewpoint and since you came from the viewpoint of those who support murdering babies, marrying perverts, stealing from the productive to feed the parasitic, and forcing that sick worldview on children by controlling the schools, it is unlikely that you have the wit to even understand my objections to your lies or the integrity to admit that you are a liar even when it is proven that you are a liar.

          • Doc Sarvis
          • Doc Sarvis

            DaveH
            On this site it is VERY RARE to see President Obama’s name spelled correctly!

          • TIME

            Well Doc,

            Do you really even know what Barry’s name is? No, you don’t nor dose anyone else know what Barry’s real name is, nor even who he really is.
            For that matter you know nothing about him at all other than the spoon fed Propaganda and out right Rhetoric thats been tossed out like rotten road apples.

          • http://personalliberty.com frank

            Hey Doc Sarvis which name of the potus do you want us to use. Oh i see maybe the name he used filing for social sec. benefits in Connecticut lol!. By the way doc its spelled REAGAN lol again. YOU PUTZ.

          • Doc Sarvis

            TIME
            The exact same thing could be said about any American President of the last 30 or more years.

          • Doc Sarvis

            frank
            I refer you to my post above to DaveH; “On this site it is VERY RARE to see President Obama’s name spelled correctly!”

          • TIME

            Wow Doc,

            Barry is the only one POTUS who by way of “Executive order blocked all of his records.” That was the very day he was sworn in to office. And you think thats normal behavior?

            So lets see he claims in his book, that BTW he said he wrote when in (fact it was written by Bill Ayers,) that his name is, Barry Soetoro, as well as {Barack Hussein “Mohammed” Obama,} yet theres not a shread of proof that his father was Barack Obama sr.
            But while I am on it how many Cristians has anyone here ever met names Mohanned? I know I meet thousands of people yearly so just looking at 45 years in the biz and yet to date I have met only one guy who’s middle name is Mohammed, oddly he is a Muslim oh and a good friend too.

            But lets us not forget his SS # of what was given to a man from the state of Conn, who by the way is now dead, but yet Barry has his number?
            How odd I asked the SS dept about duplicate numbers, there reps stated thats its “100% Impossible” to have such a thing happen.

            Or would his SS # be one of the 15 others he has used over the years?
            Strange how all the numbers all go back to where Barry lived as in his address’s.

            I don’t know Doc you tell me, I have just one single SS # and I had it since I was a kid.

            I was adoped yet I have legal papers to prove it, yet Barry there’s no record anywhere, let alone of a legal name change, thats not my opinion thats what “Honest Laywers” have been able top find out.

            I went to Gerogetown in DC in the 1970′s yet I have people to this day who stop me when they see me at airports, malls, or while I am eating dinner all over the world stop to say Hi, how have you been I was in your class yada, yada or I love your last record or hey I saw your picture in such and such you have not changed at all other than your hair color.

            Yet to this day not one single person has ever come forward and said I recall Barry from school, no, not one single person!

            So what ever, you tell us all how someone can be a 100% total ghost that becomes POTUS, yet no one knows of him nor can recall anything about him.

          • Old Henry

            Doc:

            I will spell it right. Soetoro.

          • Doc Sarvis

            TIME
            Yawn,
            One of many links to accounts of people who knew Barack Obama way back when…
            http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/26/barackobama-uselections2008

            On the SS#…
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/11/obama-social-security-num_n_609299.html
            Basically, the CT issued number was for his father of the same name and the President his SSN as a child living in Indonesia and the application was just processed in Connecticut.

          • Kinetic1

            TIME,
            Word of advise: Before you go off half cocked do some research. If all you read was President Obama’s order you might, based on personal prejudices assume that he is trying to restrict information, but a quick review of history shows the opposite to be true. Have you ever read Executive order #13489? Of course that is just a rhetorical question since the answer is obviously no. Here is the link if you care to look for yourself (://www.fas.org/sgp/obama/presidential.html).

            In short, this order revokes that of former President G.W. Bush, particularly section 8 of Executive order #13233. President Bush changed the rules to create a 12 year window where the retired President could block access to his records. President Obama returned the rules to their original state, ending this 12 year window. The effect is the exact opposite of what you claim, as is so often the case.

          • Kinetic1

            TIME,
            “So lets see he claims in his book, that BTW he said he wrote when in (fact it was written by Bill Ayers,)”
            Bill Ayers makes a dead pan joke about a stupid rumor being passed around by conservative conspiracy nuts ( “I wrote that, Dreams From My Father .”…”If you can help me prove it, I’ll split the royalties with you.”) and you grab on and run with it. It’s as bad as those Republicans who actually thought Stephen Colbert was supporting them!

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, You should search a little deeper and make an attempt to understand exactly how EO# 13489 is worded. You are mistaken in that Obama, as an incumbent president can block release of any and all of his presidential records as he sees fit.

            The actual wording of Obama’s first Executive Order merely rescinded an earlier executive order issued by President Bush severely limiting public access to presidential records after they left office.

            By doing this he was gaining points by making a Bush’s EO public and not kept secret while at the same time protecting his own personal records and keeping his critical personal information uber top secret and not subject to later disclosure by a succeeding presidential EO.

            Then quoting Obama, “For a long time now, there’s been too much secrecy in this city. This administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but with those who seek it to be known,” Obama said after signing the order rescinding the Bush-era measure.

            “The mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it. Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”

            I am sure that this was not the first lie Obama told after becoming the president nor was it his last; but it surely was one hell of a WHOPPER.

            It also solidified the rumor that he was and is hiding information that the public has a legal right under the United States Constitution to know.
            http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/31068

            Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009

            Presidential Records

            Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President.

            a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other executive agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of executive privilege is justified.

            (b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be notified promptly of any such determination.

            (c) If either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.

            (d) If the President decides to invoke executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.

            And there you have it…Obama can block release of his records and if you think for one minute that Eric Holder or the designated Archivist will challenge any attempt to block Obama from excersizing that privelage then I have a very valuable bridge to nowhere you may very well want to buy…it’s cheap too.

          • Kinetic1

            JeffH,
            Read this for me, will you please?

            Sec. 3. Claim of Executive Privilege by Incumbent President.
            (a) Upon receipt of a notice of intent to disclose Presidential records, the Attorney General (directly or through the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel) and the Counsel to the President shall review as they deem appropriate the records covered by the notice and consult with each other, the Archivist, and such other Federal agencies as they deem appropriate concerning whether invocation of Executive privilege is justified.
            (b) The Attorney General and the Counsel to the President, in the exercise of their discretion and after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section, may jointly determine that invocation of Executive privilege is not justified. The Archivist shall be promptly notified of any such determination.
            (c) If [after appropriate review and consultation under subsection (a) of this section,] either the Attorney General or the Counsel to the President believes that the circumstances justify invocation of Executive privilege, the issue shall be presented to the President by the Counsel to the President and the Attorney General.
            (d) If the President decides to invoke Executive privilege, the Counsel to the President shall notify the former President, the Archivist, and the Attorney General in writing of the claim of privilege and the specific Presidential records to which it relates. After receiving such notice, the Archivist shall not disclose the privileged records unless directed to do so by an incumbent President or by a final court order.

            What you just read is sec. 3 of Executive Order 12667, the original order signed by then President Reagan (HEY DaveH! Did I spell it right?) It is, aside from the lead in to section c (bracketed by me) word for word what is in EO13489. As I said, all EO13489 did was revoke the restrictive extensions added by President Bush II. As noted on Blogcritics.org (http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/the-executive-order-13489-fallacy/#ixzz1QvfYJ62i):

            “Starting with Reagan it has been the practice of successive presidents to keep their operating records secret until a later date when they are made public as part of the comprehensive record of their presidency. This concern over the secrecy of White House records clearly originated in the aftermath of the Nixon presidency, which explains the discussion of executive privilege in the orders in question. It’s equally clear that none of these prior presidents had any interest in concealing President Obama’s birth records.
            However, what none of these Executive Orders have any authority over are documents which were not generated by the President’s office while he was serving. They do not apply to state records like birth certificates or private records like school transcripts. The President does not have the authority to seal those records by executive order even if he wanted to, and nothing in these Executive Orders even attempts to do so.”

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, you said that Obama’s EO wasn’t about restricting POTUS informationyour words here…”If all you read was President Obama’s order you might, based on personal prejudices assume that he is trying to restrict information, but a quick review of history shows the opposite to be true.”…as political “doeblespeak” goes, and you know it quite well, Obama clearly gave himself a “complete out” of ever having to release any of his personal information.

            If you want to “trust” a liar to be open and transparent, that’s certainly your perogative…but his record on being truthfull isn’t his strong point. I’ll stand with my original assessment and you sir are in error to believe otherwise.

            Have a wonderfull 4th of July. :)

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, as for Obama allowing any of his private records to be released, which aren’t covered by the EO’s…other than a 2-1/2 year battle to see a certificate of live birth, here is a list of what he has kept hidden from the public.

            1. original long form birth certificate – not released
            2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
            3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed
            4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
            5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s reptriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
            6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
            7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released
            Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
            9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released. (These records were, however, subpoenaed but Obama lawyers succeeded in quashing the subpoena in court. No other Occi records have been released.)
            10) Columbia College records — not released
            11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
            12) Harvard Law School records (not mentioned below, but not released)
            13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
            14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois State Senator — sealed
            15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
            16) Obama’s medical records — not released
            17) Obama’s passport records — not released

            Barack Hussein Obama has deliberately, unreasonably and with guile concealed nearly all records of his personal documented history from public scrutiny; and that requests to view those records are reasonable, rational and within the American People’s province.

            “The Case Against Barack Hussein Obama”
            Written by: Diana West

          • DaveH

            Don’t bring me into this, Kinetic. I have always disdained Executive Orders. They are completely contrary to the division of power between the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, and the Judicial Branch of the Federal Government. We greatly weaken the rule of law by allowing Presidents to write laws. See here:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa358.pdf

          • Kinetic1

            JeffH,
            So by extension you are saying that President Reagan also provided himself with “a “complete out” of ever having to release any of his personal information.”? One of G.W. Bush’s first acts as president was to block all his father’s records that would soon have become available. As I said, President Obama reduced the level of secrecy and did so by returning this act to it’s original status. I suppose he could have eliminated it all together, but why is he the scapegoat for providing the office of the President the same level of privacy as Reagan, G.H.W. Bush, Ford and Clinton? I know, I know, it’s all the records he has kept out of the public’s eyes. Well most of that is just B.S. All these claims about his adoption and repatriation, his having given up his U.S. citizenship with his enrollment in an Indonesian school as “proof”, the claims about his receiving “foreign aid” to pay for college, all of it has been debunked. The trouble is there are so many conspiracy sites and anti Obama sites on the internet that the lies are repeated everywhere, including this site.

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, I mentioned nothing about Reagan, Bush, Clinton or Carter, you did. Don’t put words in my mouth. You’re gonna believe what you want to, especially about Obama reducing the secrecy behind anything. I fully understand what political “doublespeak” is and unfortunately Obama has duped you with his signing of EO# 13489. I do understand where you’re coming from on this and your “doublespeak”.

          • Kinetic1

            JeffH,
            Spin it like a top and accuse me of doublespeak all you want, but the facts are clear; President Reagan signed the first executive order for Presidential Records on Jan. 19th 1989. If President Obama signed executive order #13489 in order to seal all his past history (which this order doesn’t even authorize) and it is almost word for word what President Reagan signed, then what was Reagan’s intention? The others I listed allowed it to stand, so what were they thinking?

            The first President to make any major changes was President Bush II and his purpose was clearly to seal the records of his father and his own in the future. President Obama reversed that order by signing EO13489. It’s as simple as that, no matter what the astroturf sites say. Face it, you and others like you are so bent on proving that President Obama has some ulterior motives that you can’t see the truth. Sure, he has done some things I don’t like and some where I question what he’s up to, but this one is clear to anyone who isn’t lost in a conspiratorial fog.

          • JeffH

            …and so Kinetic1 continues on with his baaaahhhhh, baaaahhhh, baaahhh!

          • Dan az

            Well Doc and kenitic
            There were eight attempts by members of Congress during the years Barack Obama was developing a power base and running for president to remove the Constitution’s requirement that a president be a “natural-born citizen,” suggesting an organized strategy, according to a new video.
            http://patriotupdate.com/9011/illegal-obama-propped-up-by-congress
            So you see that know matter what you say here it just proves the fact that you two are cluesless.Can you deny that your boy wounder is really who he says now?

          • John

            Let’s see now, you are concerned about the mis-spelling of Obama’s name – are you an Obama supporter?

            Second the link you give to Anthony Gregory’s article is irrelevant to the absurd insult by “ron”. Gregory’s article is pretty good, but just because ReAgan didn’t do all that Gregory wanted does not mean that we should misinterpret what ReAgan did do, or falsify how well he spoke. His understanding was correct and his speaking was awesome – even off the cuff. This was the issue raised by “ron”, and he is wrong.

            When you have to go off topic rather than answer the issue, it advertises that you are wrong. No problem for you – you are not concerned with truth, only whether you can score with hit and run.

            Everyone here knows that Reagan’s actions, courtesy of the CFR/Fed Reserve/Trilaterals/etc, did not match his words. It is clear from your nonsensical arguments that your sympathies do not lie with liberty and that you are not concerned that Reagan’s actions fell short – you are angry at Reagan because his communicated so well the ideas of Liberty, helping to spark this movement of which you are not a part, because you are a mole, hoping to undermine us by you looking oh-so-stupid on this site.

            You lose.

          • Dan az

            So Doc
            Is this what you want to back it up?
            ust a few days after Barack Obama was elected President, George Soros stated: “I think we need a large stimulus package which will provide funds for state and local government to maintain their budgets―because they are not allowed by the constitution to run a deficit. For such a program to be successful, the federal government would need to provide hundreds of billions of dollars. In addition, another infrastructure program is necessary. In total, the cost would be in the 300 to 600 billion-dollar range….”31

            Soon thereafter, as one of the first priorities of his presidency, Obama pressured Congress to pass a monumental $787 billion economic-stimulus bill whose text was 1,071 pages long­―and which few, if any, legislators read before voting on it. Obama stressed the urgency of passing this bill at the earliest possible moment, so as to forestall any further harm to the U.S. economy. Notably, the legislation repealed numerous essentials of the 1996 welfare-reform bill against which George Soros had so strongly rebelled.32 According to a Heritage Foundation report, 32 percent of the new stimulus bill—or an average of $6,700 in “new means-tested welfare spending” for every poor person in the U.S.—was earmarked for social-welfare programs.33 Such unprecedented levels of spending did not at all trouble Soros, who said: “At times of recession, running a budget deficit is highly desirable.”34 In December 2009, Obama concurred again—outlining a set of new multibillion-dollar stimulus and jobs proposals while explaining that America must continue to “spend our way out of this recession.”35

        • Average Joe

          DaveH,
          Your link was just too funny……hold on….ho…hold on..I can’t hear myself….but I’m glad your fired up…..lol

          Well Mr. Obama, since you didn’t put together one single complete coherant sentence…..you weren’t missing anything…. Dumbazz!

        • TIME

          Kin 1,

          Perhaps you should follow your own words rather than telling others what to do. BTW ~ Just how many people are you on this sight again?
          As I recall Bob posted a number of IP’s that are all the same, you were in that mix.

          Be all that as it may, what I posted is the TRUTH rather you like it or not. There is a nice crisp Vidio of Bill Ayers stating he wrote Barrys books, (so its not my opinion,) its Bill Ayers in his own words.
          Again be that as it may Barrys book sales were “rather poor” on both of his very self serving books. In fact both of these books are on the same par as “My Struggle by Adolf Hitler.” Odd how many people have picked up on that factor.

          JFTR~ To sell a million books is not all that hard when you think that you have {330 Million people in your sales pool.}
          Let alone how little money the author gets per unit, as in you don’t get rich on selling a million books.
          Again JFTR, ~ {royalities are not based on new sales.}
          They are based on; I recorded a record in 1971, in 2008 a new Artist use’s my song. They pay me a “ROYALIY” on thier sales of their cover record of my song. Yes I get a nice chunk of change every year for my work from the past, and guess what I do with that money, I give it all to Charity’s.

          If you don’t comprehend something then ask someone who’s an independant person to explain it to you. That may work out far better for you in the long run.
          Thus what I posted is 100% the TRUTH and FACT of the Matter just due to your not grasping its gravity and breadth is not my problem.

          Nice try but your going have to work a lot harder than blowing hot air out of your bottom then stating it has relative value.

          In Barry’s own words,”Persons who hide something, are Persons who have something to hide.”
          Of what the question then is; {just what is it that Barry has not hidden from the American Public?} AKA, his BOSS!

          • Kinetic1

            TIME,
            Reading from the FOX playbook are we? “As I recall Bob posted a number of IP’s that are all the same, you were in that mix.” You “recall” seeing this, so it must be true! I have no time nor the desire to play games with alter egos. I post as Kinetic1 and only Kinetic one. How about you, TIME?

            OK, so you have a video of Ayres saying he wrote the book, but does that prove that he was not joking? ”If you can help me prove it, I’ll split the royalties with you.” That line alone should have been enough of a tip off for you.

          • TIME

            Kin 1,
            I post under ONE name only dude, thats easy enough its; (TIME,)
            As I still work so my employees have a job and will get a real 401 K, thus I have limited TIME to play with people who are still bound to the DemO v RebO worthless BS.
            Oddly dude, I really enjoy my work I get to travel and hang with some rather cool people, as well as a number of worthless Maggots, leaches and outright IDIOTs.

            JFTR, I sold (my rights) on many of my works over the years, what that means is you get paid a Static amount “UP FRONT” for your work.
            WOW ~ oddly so do Ghost Writers. So they would never get a ROYALTY payment, nor would they be able to split something they don’t get in the first place, as in I picked up on that worthless rhetoric ASAP.

            Nice try in the deflection but it’s not going to hold water.

          • Christin

            TIME,
            Enjoyed your 10:45 post.

            If Bill Ayers wrote BO or BS’s (take your pick…they both stink!) book then this surely PROVES that O LIED to all of America when he said as Candidate obama that he did not know Bill Ayers when it was shown that he was in his living room in Chicago.

            “Obama’s election as the first black [half black-half white] president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about ‘race relations.’ The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations. for which he had been paid, obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book “Dreams of My Father.”
            Not surprising, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still a nobody. So did Stalin. For a ‘narcissist’ no subject is as important as hi own self.”

            Above quote from Dr. Sam Vaknin, an Israeli Psychologist on Narcissism

      • commonsense

        check some video, you’ll see that Reagan used notes and other times memorized or winged parts or the whole of his speech. acting career helped? maybe. but teleprompter king? hardly…

      • Patriot

        Forget about any past President’s, the simple fact out of Obama’s mouth is that we are in a debt crisis and the sky is falling, yes again! Is our President worrying about this today or any other day? No! His schedule begins today @ 10:30am and then he has another short meeting at 4:30pm, before leaving on another vacation. Weren’t Michelle and the girls just on vacation in Africa (for what we do not know) for the past 3 weeks? Well he is working so hard he needs another vacation, along with 76 rounds of golf which he fits in between his basketball games and constant fund raising parties. Sounds like he is focused like a laser on the economy, jobs, and the current debt crisis. Keep in mind whenever Obama speaks of congress or anyone not doing their job (homework ahead of time, etc.) he is talking about himself to divert attention away from his complete inadequacies as a leader, especially when he has still not produced a budget since he has been in office. No sorry his budget is to print more money from the Federal Reserve and spend as much as he wants (good sound fiscal policy), I bet he tells his girls do not worry I will just go back and pick more of the taxpayer’s money off the money tree. I would like to see his schedule or what he might do if he was not so focused!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well Doc, Quite Frankly, I didn’t see any big Revelation coming off of your post either?!__an accurate assessment of Reagan??__How intelligent Whoopie!!

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

      The funny thing about Ron’s lies is that even the liberal biased mainstream media reports that Obama uses the teleprompter more than any other President ever has. Do you think they would lie Ron? I think they lie all the time, but I’m a conservative. When they say things like that it’s hard to agree with them isn’t it Ron, because its very hard to serve two Masters, the lieing liberal biased mainstream media, or the King of Liars, Obama, which is it you want us to believe.

      • eddie47d

        Since Doc pointed out that Reagan increased government spending 90% you better be careful on that 3 legged stool.The fact remains that Obama has not turned the economy around and that will hurt him deeply. We can also see through all the Republican smoke and mirrors in delaying appointments of agency heads and helping to stall the economy for political purposes. They are all playing a fools game.

        • Average Joe

          It is so funny watching everyone here blaming this person
          or that person for the mess we are in..and nobody sees the obvious…both parties were complicit….as well as every president over the last 98 years (why 98?…think 1913)
          I am guessing that since congress makes the laws and passes the budget as well as all other government expenditures and then the President either signs those bills or vetoes them…we can put the blame squarely where it belongs….on all presidents and every member of congress within that time frame.
          I would say there were way too many people (the entire DC gang) in the car on a drunken spending binge while out on a joy ride in daddy’s new car (Federal Reserve)….when the car went into the ditch. Next, they (the DC Gang) all got out and pushed it over a cliff…
          Funny thing is…the accident wouldn’t have happened at all…if “We the People”… hadn’t been driving the car during this drunken binge and fallen asleep at the wheel…the wreck is…to put it quite simply…our fault.

          • Old Henry

            AJ:

            And do not forget the brain-dead elecorate.

          • Kate8

            Average Joe – I found the article on the EPA seizing control of ALL water.

            Sorry for being off-subject, but I wanted to post it for you.

            http://ppjg.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/epa-and-corps-plan-to-seize-control-of-all-water/

          • Average Joe

            Old Henry,
            That’s what I meant by…”We” were driving and fell asleep at the wheel when the car went into the ditch. The elctorate (us) weren’t paying attention and allowed the Federal Government get so far out of control with promises of goodies from the public treasury.We got drunk on the goodies and stopped paying attention to the big picture.

            Kate8,
            Thanks much for the link. We have something in Florida that is as bad…or worse, it’s called Southwest Florida Water Management AKA SWIFTMUD. They were the ones pushing for the metered wells …and when that got stopped, they found a way around it with watering restrictions…. another of those quasi-governmental agencies…privately owned…but funded with public monies and backed by the full force of the state.

          • Dan az

            Kate
            Every day there is something new.I copied that and will post it every where to.First the food now the water!unbelievable!They just wont stop!

          • eddie47d

            Yes Kate they have to do it before corporate entities buy up the rights to all waterways and potable water. Then these private companies will charge a premium price for a product we can’t live without. We’ve been fooled by price gougers before. If you have been paying attention that is going on all over the world. All of life will be controlled by a few. Buy from them or die.

          • Kate8

            eddie – If I’ve been paying attention?

            What do you think I’ve been railing about all this time?

            As far as them having to do it to stop the private corporations…well gee, eddie. YOU need to pay more attention.

            Who do you think is behind the EPA and, in fact, our entire government? PRIVATE, FOREIGN CORPORATIONS.

            In fact, we are already under CORPORATOCRACY. These corporations are buying up EVERYTHING, and I do mean everything. They plan to control every aspect of our lives.

            Oh, and BTW. In spite of the fact that half the nation’s states balked at RealID, we have it. It was done by stealth (NO!). Anyone who has a valid drivers license has one, and they are under the AAMVA, and international organization of the UN.

            We are all citizens of the World now, and under globalist (corporate) control.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate8, go to the website landrights.org, the Army Corps of Engineers is gonna control all our water also, including the mud puddle in your front yard. they also want to control all our mineral rights etc. and put small miners like me out of business, they’re gonna have a fight on their hands.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate, I’ve been fighting them for years and belong to landrights.org, thanks for the link and thanks for bringing up the subject.

          • JeffH

            Al, thanks for the website landrights.org. I’ve saved it to my favotites list.

            http://landrights.org/

          • Al Sieber

            You’re welcome Jeff, it’s to bad that this is going on behind the scenes but, we can still beat them. I joined them 5 years ago and we won a few battles and expect to win the rest.

        • Angel Wannabe

          eddie, why don’t you liberals go play in the freeway!__Ya screwed things up enough with Socialism & the USA into the United States Corporation, and ya still have the gall, to think we give a Tinkers Damn about what ya think!_ Here’s a clue, “YA GOT NOTHIN, EDDIE, YA HEARIN’ THIS, NOTHIN’!!

          • Dan az

            Angel
            I sent this letter to obumer and everyone that I could including the news paper,congressmen,every site that I go on and all my email list.I hope it gets out there.
            Dear President Obama”

            We The People have stated resolutely that we reject your vision
            for our country. You claim you have not heard us.

            WE THE PEOPLE have assembled across America resisting your
            efforts to subvert our CONSTITUTION and undermine our
            LIBERTY. You claim you have not seen us.

            Since you have not acknowledged our message let us here
            present it once more. For if as President Wilson said, a leaders
            ear must ring with the voices of the people, the time has come.

            Our greatest treasure is FREEDOM. The absence of restraints
            on our ability to think and to act. The corollary of FREEDOM is
            INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. We believe in the power of the
            individual. A few years ago President Bush said, “History moves
            toward FREEDOM because the desire for FREEDOM is written in
            every human heart.” Let us add that we will preserve it only as
            long as devotion to FREEDOM is expressed in the heart of our
            ACTIONS.

            When President Lincoln dedicated Gettysburg National Cemetery
            he declared, “it is for us the living … to be dedicated here to the
            unfinished work which they who fought here have thus so nobly
            advanced.” That unfinished cause for which our soldiers willingly
            go to battle and for which so many have given their lives is a
            FREE United States of America.

            It has been nearly one hundred fifty years and the work President
            Lincoln spoke of is not finished. In fact, that work will never be
            finished. FREEDOM IS THE CAPACITY FOR SELF DETERMINATION.
            It is not an entity but a condition, and conditions change.
            FREEDOM can expand, yet so can it contract.

            You promised CHANGE when you took office, Mr. President, but
            subjugation is not CHANGE we wanted or will accept. You have
            expanded government violated our CONSTITUTION confounded
            laws seized private industry destroyed jobs perverted our
            ECONOMY curtailed FREE SPEECH corrupted our CURRENCY
            weakened our NATIONAL SECURITY AND ENDANGERED OUR
            sovereignty.

            By compromising our nation’s cultural, legal, and economic
            institutions you are ensuring that our children will never achieve
            the same quality of life as we enjoy today. Through generational
            theft you are robbing the unborn of opportunity. This is not
            acceptable not in AMERICA. We did not become a strong nation
            through HOPE but rather through self-reliance.

            No one better understands the relationship between individual
            achievement dignity and strength than our ARMED FORCES.
            Through every war our soldiers have held this nation’s destiny in
            their hands. They have not failed us. They cherish FREEDOM
            enough that they are willing to DIE FOR IT. Our duty to them and
            to ourselves is to treasure FREEDOM enough TO LIVE UP TO IT.

            We accept the challenge, Mr. President. That is why we are
            assembling across the land to deliver our message to you as often
            and in every way we can. Dismiss us at your political peril. Our
            great nation is a REPUBLIC. We will not accept tyranny under any
            guise.

            Your policy to redistribute the fruits of our labor is STATISM and
            will not be tolerated. By our honor, Mr. President, we vow forever
            to resist coercive government in AMERICA. PATRIOTS will not stand
            silent as you attempt to dismantle the greatest nation on earth.

            WE THE PEOPLE will defend our liberty, we will protect our beloved
            country and America’s EXCEPTIONALISM WILL PREVAIL!

            GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

            Sincerely, WE THE PEOPLE :)

          • Average Joe

            Dan az,
            I posted this letter to my Facebook Wall in hopes of making it go viral on the internet.I suggest that everyone else do the same.

          • Dan az

            A Joe
            Good Idea missed that one!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Dan_-That Is Awesome, I love it, May I use it to send to family and friends??___

            ON ANOTHER NOTE__PLEASE BEWARE, I sent a four pager, to all of our Reps about 7 months after Bambi’s inauguration. Shortly there after, I believe I was targeted for a while. Through the US mail, in emails, weird links from unknown IP addy’s on my website. That when I clicked on them, this message would appear (“is the Government watching you?”).__right around the same time, I DJ two nights a week as a hobby. Fights started to break out in the bar,(WE HAD TWO, MAYBE THREE A YEAR AT MOST BEFORE) the fights went on for weeks. The people starting them, I’ve never seen before, even went so far as to spit in the bartenders face, a nasty bunch of people.__ Lug nuts on our truck were loosened to the point, the tire almost fell off rounding a corner JUST BELOW OUR HOUSE. A strange women was hired out of no where as bar manager, the night she was hired, she fired us. We went back to the owner and asked what happened, and what we had done, and he said “it seems she had something personal against us” I’ve never seen this women before, two days later she quit.__Things are fine now, but please be prepared!_I’m to much of an skeptic to believe in co-incidence.

          • Dan az

            Angel
            Ever sense I sent that to obumer my computer has been constipated just think if I hadn’t sent it to them signed Eddiee 47d what it would have been. :)

          • Christin

            Wow, Angel Wannabe… that is scary as heck… no 2nd Amendment FREEDOM of SPEECH anymore… as per your 4:59 PM post.

          • JeffH

            Dan az, I posted that on facebook too. Thanks!

        • eddie47d

          Angel; You sure didn’t say anything so the freeway is open to you also. Apparently I have more than what you are putting out.

          • Angel Wannabe

            yes eddie it is something, when you offer nothing but capitalism bashing, and how terrible it is for people to be selfish and greedy enough to work and actually own a business, who may want to keep some of the capital for themselves and their families!__What the h*ll are they thinking, huh?…Good Lord__Go to some other commie country and sling your crap, ya fit better there!

          • JeffH

            God has given you one face, and you make yourself another.
            ~William Shakespeare

          • Dan az

            Jeff
            Speaking of which. :)
            I’m sorry but that face just cracks me up every time I see it :)

          • JeffH

            Dan az, always smilin’. Like your new hair! :)

          • Dan az

            Jeff
            I was having a bad hair day so I decided to to put up where I think liberals get there logic just before that popping sound.Fitting don’t ya think?

        • Old Henry

          Well eddie, Reagan had a democrap Congress to deal with. He was continually vilifed in the MSM and by the democraps for cutting spending. All he did was cut the rate of growth.

          Back then not meny knew the dirty little secret of Base-Line Budgeting where everything was automatically increased 10% each year.

          Reagan cut that 10% down and they howled to high heaven.

    • Dan az

      This is a good article that I ran across that I would like to share.Its about the greatest experiment that the world has ever envisioned.And how even in the communist countries they too copy it to this day.he national budget must be balanced. The public debt must be reduced; the arrogance of the authorities must be moderated and controlled. Payments to foreign governments must be reduced, if the nation doesn’t want to go bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.

      This was written in 55 B.C., but it’s as true today as it was then. A diminishing usefulness of the private sector and the redistributingof wealth by a bloated central government is unacceptable and should be resolutely resisted by every American.
      http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/jackbouroudjian/2011/07/03/america_and_the_golden_age_of_capitalism/page/2

    • Dan az

      Ron
      Know matter how twisted your little mind is the facts are the facts get over it.Over the eight years of his administration, 16 million new jobs were created; inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988; unemployment fell from 7.6% to 5.5%; and the overall economy grew by 40%. It’s no coincidence that tech companies flourished in the 1980s and 1990s under his pro-innovation policies, which set the stage for a smaller role for the government in the economy and gave the markets the freedom to work for themselves.

      Not only did President Reagan’s policies have a long-term effect on the economic growth of America; they also permanently shifted the way America approached economic policy. Today’s debate over taxes no longer considers a 70% income tax rate for higher brackets. Instead, the discussions tend to focus on a few percentage points in either direction of 35%.

      • Al Sieber

        Dan, I second that, damn it!!! we’re having weird weather here, one day it’s 89, and the next day it’s 110 I love it, so much for global warming and Al Gore……

        • Dan az

          Hey Al
          The monsoons made its showing on the third,great stuff huh!It actually got so cold that I had to put on a sweat shirt.Stay dry bud!

    • John

      ron,

      Speaking as someone whose enthusiasm for Ronald Reagan was limited by his seeming inability to truly roll back government to match his words, let me say that the idea that Reagan was lost without a teleprompter is bizarre at best.

      Reagan was a brilliant speaker, his words if not his deeds have inspired many toward Liberty, and his ability to speak off the cuff was surpassed possibly, and probably only, by John Eennedy.

      Let’s see now, are you possibly defending Obama?

      Mole.

  • Cawmun Cents

    When there is no way to defend your position about Omamba,you change the subject.Result to fallacy,that way to the layman on the street you can seem like you have an intelligent retort.Red herring,poisoning the well,ad hominem attacks,start a rumor and watch it snowball as”it”rolls downhill.Tell folks that there is nothing to learn from History like Bill Mahr does.Use marxist tactics.Berate a persons qualifications…especially when they are more qualified than you.Speak of equality,then call them racists when all the rest of that melarkey doesnt work.Better yet…call them a Christian…that is the filthiest thing on the planet…Meanwhile deviancy like homosexuality and murder of 50,000,000 unborn human being in the name of”choice”is okay.Yeah…youth are looting stores in public and yet the main headlines go to a woman in florida who does what millions of those who”choose”do and she is frontpage news.The persident is a media whore the likes of which Lohan,Spears,and Hilton can only aspire to be.But all that is okay.He is the darling of the democratic party so he is excused for untoward behavior.Yes it is okay to appear on television,and give more speeches,and campaign opportunities coming more times than all the other presidents combined,if it keeps your image with the constituents.But dont you dare DO anything about anything,or you will risk pissing someone off.Better to do nothing and point the finger at someone else than to risk pissing someone off.The same tactics that are used in corporate America.And you thought he wasted all those years at Harvard.At least he isnt a Yale man….haw!-CC.

  • s c

    Obummer is continually posing and acting like a sorry reincarnation of Bubba Clinton and an empty suit when the Clinton mask doesn’t fit. Somewhere, he learned to talk, talk, talk in generalities. Being specific is something that’s beyond him.
    Subsidies that encourage manufacturers to go ‘elsewhere’ amount to more ways to force more jobs to other countries (duh!). We’re stuck with a non-leader who refuses to take his oath of office seriously, he can’t tell the difference between a citizen and an illegal alien, he’s fond of czars who tell him what he wants to hear, and he dares to think that life will be beautiful if America made cars (union-made? BS!), planes and wind turbines. What country can do that?
    This is the same guy who’s hoping that Americans will never understand what’s so IMMORAL about making a university education a “right” when those jobs WON’T be there. He’s created a bait-and-switch education bubble that’s about to burst.
    His constant campaigning proves that he’s ready to flit around the country with his teleprompter, but he’ll never be ready to act like a leader instead of a cheap, directionless poser. He could have done more as a directionless poser in the Senate. Beyond that, he could have stayed out of politics or written books about organizing and destroying America from within. He’s a poser’s poser. He’s also a loser’s loser. Thanks for nothing, prez.

    • skippy

      well said sc. thanks for a good post!

    • DaveH

      There is a possibility, SC, that he’s playing both sides. He buys the Union and Liberal votes with his lies, and at the same time redistributes our wealth to other countries like the budding NWO leader that he probably aspires to be.

    • eddie47d

      The one dimensional Queen (s c ) has spoken and her adoring fans can’t get enough. Barff! Your negativity is overwhelming your ability to be rational. You’d make a good Kim Jung of North Korea with you psycho babble and moody disposition. I’m glad you don’t work on Wall Street for they have enough self serving ego maniacs creating misery for the rest of us while they reap huge rewards. You are an unbelievable perverted slickster. Las Vegas is calling …for a show girl like you.

      • Angel Wannabe

        OH Eddie, your just jealous cuz your ego’s here bothering us, instead of Wallstreet. Wanna be a big shot on Wallstreet?__Go Work for it!
        geez!

        • eddie47d

          Oh great defender of greed…. Naw, I’ll let you pack your bags for NYC and you can work for those overpaid pikers who helped collaspe our economy. Your train leaves at 1:00.

          • Angel Wannabe

            ahh eddie C’mon, nobody killed the economy except for your damned liberal jerks in Washington__Tax Hikes in a downturn economy yeah, that’ll do it and drive us right into another 29 depression!__99 weeks for unemployment = “Money for nothing and your Chicks for free!”_Ya blame Bush for the Patriot act AND EVERYTHING ELSE, but your fearless leader, didn’t take it off the books, did he? another way to be nosy??__Yeah he’s great leader,___ Laws were passed for ‘Warrant less Entries into our homes” YEAH I’m HAPPY AS h*LL ABOUT THAT ONE!!!__and how about him forgetting his daughter’s age__TWICE ON THE TUBE?!__oh Yeah and hows ’bout that new Rural Community Law, wonder what OTHER COMMIE Tsars he’s gonna find jobs for there (To add to his fabulous, I created JOBS numbers) and another committee??__That fearless leader Osama, oops, I mean Obama (sorry couldn’t make the distinction) is just the epitome of the last years of Rome, before it crumbled. You Liberal shills, kill me, just loyal right to the very end with the same old tired rhetoric, the pay must be good, huh?.__But I still stand by what I said eddie, nobody give a rats butt what you Liberals think!_ you liberals are “Commie Light” and it wouldn’t take much to push ya in all the way in, if the pay was good!__Ya got nothin eddie, nothing but nosy, jealous commie junk!
            __the reason a lot of us engage you is because, your interesting conversation piece___ BTW, As a Christian, We are to Love the Person, Hate the Behavior, and I do, I absolutely hate Liberal Behavior!
            But Have a nice day! :)

          • JeffH

            Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you’ll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others. ~Jacob M. Braude

          • eddie47d

            So Angel why are you trying to change me? I’m delighted that I”m not angry and feel I have to hate everything and everyone around me. Go take a break you need it. I’d even buy you a cup of coffee.

          • DaveH

            Listen to Eddie, the staunch Unionist talking about Greed. Did you steal Karolyn’s magic mirror, Eddie?

          • eddie47d

            I see no greed in Karolyn or myself Mr storyteller!

          • DaveH

            Oh, yeah, you are greedy of the worst kind. You advocate forcibly taking property from others using Government as your bully boys. You constantly whine about the greedy corporations, but when was the last time they forcibly made you buy their products? No doubt, there are those who compete unfairly using Government to run interference against their competitors, but you need to state that rather than lumping all of them together. And they couldn’t do that without Big Government, which it seems from your comments, you support.

      • DaveH

        Only Eddie could talk about somebody else’s negativity and then proceed with a foul tirade of personal attack.
        Do you drink, Eddie? How else could you assuage the guilt of your hypocrisy?

        • JeffH

          DaveH, you know quite well that eddie is a parrot and can only repeat what he hears or reads…he was just parroting karolyn by using the word “negativity”.

    • dlsimm

      we need to get past this era of “political correctness” and I believe that any sensible person would agree with you

  • TIME

    Barry is nothing but a Puppet on a tight chain for his New World Order Masters who instruct him on what to say, where and when to say it.
    Of what by the way everything that comes out of his mouth has the same value what my cat leaves in that little sand box.

    • Angel Wannabe

      TIME, SAME SHYTE, DIFFERENT SANDBOX!!!!

      • TIME

        Hi Angel,

        Yea them sandbox’s are filling up daily with more of that same old warm brown smelly stuff.

        How sad is it that we have some members who eat the cat Crunches within the sandbox’s yet think they are somehow better, brighter, and more intellectual by doing so.
        I say just smell my dogs breath after a few cat crunches then tell me thats good for you…..
        Let alone when the same dogs wake me up at 3 AM to go out and have a specail warm brown liquid run off due to them special cat Crunches…

        • Angel Wannabe

          I hear ya TIME, I don’t get it either. Once in a while though, it’s fun to just vent on’em, to see where they’re at, or if they’ve learned anything. But like I said to Jeffh, I see nothings changed in the Liberal point of view?!

          • JeffH

            Angel Wannabe, RE: Kinetic1 comments above….as you said!

  • karolyn

    I’ve been seeing even more reports on the news about companies moving BACK here from China due to transportation costs, lack of efficiency by the Chinese workers and also Chinese wages going up. The combination of issues is showing companies that it is more worthwhile to locate right here.

    • karolyn
      • DaveH

        Whoopee, Mars is going to create 200 jobs. Compare that to this, where Obama has idled 1000 workers in your own home state:
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/30/boeing-labor-case-nlrb_n_888133.html?view=print

        By the way that manufacturing sector growth your report talks about is the result of a cheaper dollar. That is, since the dollar is worth less now (much less) due to the vast new money creation by the Federal Reserve, what looks like growth is just more dollars chasing the same amount of goods (inflation). Yes, stocks are also inflated in price when there is excess money printed.

        • DaveH

          I’ll bet the Liberals just love Mars:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars,_Incorporated#Criticism

          • pete0097

            More businesses should go to Mars, PA that is. It is a lovely rural area. A friend of mine was from Mars, Pa and he wrote checks to people for $1, in exchange for $1 cash. They had planets and stars on them.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Mars….really?Travelling through space for months or years at a time for what?So you can say that you did it?Seems like an awful lot of money spent on something with little return.It is not as if we have spent time that far away from home.Having a space station just outside of orbit,or going to the moon,is nothing the same.You cant send a rescue vehicle to mars within the acceptable time schedules.Unless you have One World Government,It simply will not work.There is too much worldly instability to send people that far away to such a hostile environment.And the cost?Lets just say it would be prohibitive with the world economy the way it is.The moon is roughly ten time the circumference of the earth away from us.As far as I know,we havent really added much speed to our capabilities since we landed on the moon.It will take months to get to mars,and depending on what research that needs to be done(possibly),people will be millions of miles away from earth for as much as a year or two by current estimates.That has never been done.The moon is a quarter of a million miles(roughly)away from earth.But mars is millions….let that word sink in,of miles away.the need to endanger human life by sending humans there is sheer stupidity.Robots will not function as well as humans but we will still need to send more of them to Mars thereby necessitating spending billions to get that done.Where will those resources be better spent?Nearly anywhere.Which is the point I was making all along.Many will disagree with my opinion.But we need to learn how to live here on earth,peacefully together,before we attempt to run off and colonize the universe.-CC.

    • Michael J.

      karolyn,
      Ya right, if you believe that any companies will return while Obama is still on the throne, I got some ocean front property in Arizona I’d like to sell you.

      • karolyn

        Watch the video. It is happening. I also heard of a furniture company coming back to NC. It is happening. Open your eyes!

        • DaveH

          You mean we should open our eyes wide? Like yours are? Stop it. You’re killing me.

        • Angel Wannabe

          k, I don’t think dave meant, the deer in a headlight look, when he said open your eyes….

          • JeffH

            :)

    • Cawmun Cents

      And to back that up karolyn,you have which statistic?Since for the past 15 months there have been 400,000 jobs lost per month(NBCnews statistic)and nowhere even close to that being made.That is over 5,000,000 jobs lost,to add to those that were lost when the crash came.That is 4/5ths of a half million every month,for a year and a quarter.No karolyn,the jobs are staying overseas.The regulatory tax laws are seeing to that.Unions are seeing to that.This administration is seeing to that.Businessmen are in it to prosper,but not at the cost of draconian taxes and regulation.Not at the cost of paying trillions to keep the congress spending more than they take in.Not at the cost of socialistic tendencies which force them to leave their own nation.I dont know where you heard that they are starting to come back…..probably from some progressive ideologue,who cant see the forrest through the trees.-CC.

      • karolyn

        Why dwell on the bad things? Why not look at whatever good is happening and capitalize on that. That is why things don’t change. Just keep bitching and moaning and keeping things the way they are. – Self-fulfilling prophecies. Change has to start somewhere. Even if the jobs coming back are few, it is a beginning! All change starts small!

        • Bob

          Things stay the way they are when fools like you delude themselves into thinking everything is ok. Change comes from discontent and I pray that the discontent that I hear everywhere I go sweeps the scumocrat party into oblivion in the next election.

          • karolyn

            You know what boring Bob? Everything really is OK when one puts the whole of the Universe in proper perspective. We are but tiny pieces of the whole.

        • DaveH

          Sure when your comment is refuted, you revert to “why dwell on the bad things?”. I still want to buy your magic mirror, Karolyn.

          • Bob

            Mirror, mirror on the wall, whose the dumbest, most deluded one of all. Answer – Karolyn the Americorp drone.

          • karolyn

            Bob – If anyone is a drone, it certainly would be more you than me. Definition of a drone is worker bee. I have neve been a boring worker bee. At least I’m doing something in this life to help others. What’s your contribution? Knocking people down!

          • DaveH

            You mean helping yourself to other peoples’ money, Karolyn?

          • Dan az

            Dave
            I don’t think its her magic mirror I think is more the magic mushrooms.

          • Kate8

            DaveH – karolyn is helping others get other people’s money now.

        • karolyn

          Dave – What on earth is wrong with looking at any good that is happening? All we hear is harping about how everything sucks. Don’t you just get tired of it? There are good things happening that are overshadowed by all the bad news. Somebody has to bring in some light. It would seem that many posters just get off on bad news. If there was nothing to complain about they just might go out back and shoot themselves!

          • http://yahoo alex

            karolyn, you must be really super educated otherwise how could you be so stupid just like the idiot in the whitehouse

          • Michael J.

            karolyn,
            Don’t be naive, a lone hair protruding out of a wart is a sign of growth, but most people would not become optimistic because of it. Get real!

          • DaveH

            Hitler could have been stopped if the German people weren’t just hoping for the best instead of getting involved.

        • Cawmun Cents

          Tell that to the President karolyn.Yes things do start small.But overhauling for the worse the entire medical system,isnt exactly starting small is it?Trying to change the entire energy system isnt starting small is it?Why arent you telling the President to start small karolyn.But you damn sure expect that of the small businessman,is that it?That is why we have the conditions which are present today.Some people want to change the whole thing all at once,instead of taking samll steps toget it done.(Democrats)-CC.

    • Bob Marshall

      karolyn I read that same thing yesterday in Foreign Affairs. Good point!

    • eddie47d

      Karolyn; If it’s not negative news for Conservatives then it is no news.

      • JeffH

        definition – Sheeple
        1-People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive ablilities of their own
        2- Allowing the influences of different forms of media and group members to hold great sway in the formation of attitudes, behavoir and opinion.
        3-To accept the group mentaility and opinion as fact without examination. Not only to be told what to do, but accepting the paradigm of thought as absolute thereby removing the weight of personal responsibility in the making of decisions.
        4-The compression of two words, sheep and people, to form one word meaning a mass of ignorant, unoriginal humans that herd together and follow mindlessly.

        • Angel Wannabe

          JeffH, Sad isn’t it?__Just ridiculous & sad, that theres still so many sheeple!

        • eddie47d

          Yes it is sad and there is quite a herd of Conservatives on this site that follow all the negative swill like a pig searching for dinner.

          • JeffH

            “The only thing that ever consoles man for the stupid things he does is the praise he always gives himself for doing them.”
            -Oscar Wilde

          • Michael J.

            eddie47d,
            Don’t make the mistake of slandering Conservatives when they may be the ones to pick your unprepared dexterior up out of the mud after TSHTF. Because you know your own limp wristed cronies would simply use you as traction while fleeing and peeing simultaneously in order to save their own worthless behinds.

          • eddie47d

            Then Jeff stop praising yourself. That is a very simple request so you think you can follow your own advice?

          • Dan az

            Michael :)
            Eddie most of not read that in wisconsin they stuck to there guns and are now looking to be out of debt soon.Of course thats not what the unions said it was more like it will be the death of the state.Maybe I should leave the site for him,Nah maybe he should prove me wrong first!Yes eddie your union buddies are falling to the wayside care to join them?

  • Doc Sarvis

    As I tried to explain on some posts I made yesterday; President Obama has pushed for ending the tax breaks companies enjoy by shipping American jobs overseas. Republicans and perhaps some Democrats in Congress would not agree to ending those tax breaks. As for the agencies regulations; blaiming President Obama for that is pure folly as they have been put in place by many administrations over at least the last half century.

    • Michael J.

      What about GE, Doc? And by the way, isn’t Jeffrey Imelt one of the corporate jet class Obama was talking about?

      • Doc Sarvis

        I’m sure that Jeffery Imelt IS one of the class that President Obama is talking about.

      • JeffH

        Michael J, are you talking about the same Jeffrey Immelt, General Electric Co.’s chief executive officer, Obama asked to head his outside panel of economic advisers? Cozy huh?

        • Angel Wannabe

          Jeffh, on another note, rumor has it on a few blogs the last couple days, that Geithner maybe leaving, but I see he said no, that he wasn’t. I wonder what’s up with that?__Can anyone say “Bailing”?….

          • JeffH

            I saw something on that last night. Seems he’ll stick around for the debt increase then bail. Seems a quite a few of the O’man’s “confidants” are bailing…especially his “economic” advisors.
            Haven’t checked to see if this is the norm or just a case of his “boys” jumping ship.

            This seems to be the most current headline on Geithner: Geithner Says He’ll Stay For ‘Foreseeable Future’

    • DaveH

      Why don’t we just end the byzantine Income Tax System and level the playing field, Doc? Then you Liberals won’t have any “tax breaks” to whine about. Let’s make it really fair, end Corporate Tax altogether and just tax each adult the same.
      At the very least, let’s end this situation where some companies get extraordinary help from unwilling taxpayers (see especially Exhibit 28-6):
      http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/energy/subsidies/
      And I don’t mean just picking on the Oil industry like Obama wants to do.

      • DaveH

        We should be grateful to those people who invest their money in Capital equipment to produce more goods and employ more people. Instead, Liberals, in their jealousy, want to drag down those enterprising people.

        • eddie47d

          No jealousy Dave. Only a desire have some control over the creepy crooks who are robbing America for personal gain. Keating…Enron…Lehman Bros., as they work their corporate magic in screwing us all. How’s that reality working out for you as they march on over decades to con you and I.

          • DaveH

            You can thank the Government for that, Eddie. If they weren’t so busy supporting their favored capitalists over the rest, they could do what they should be doing — punishing fraudulent businesses.
            As Government Grows, Corruption Flows. And as far as I can tell from your comments, Eddie, you support that Big Government. If you truly want a level playing field, get the Government out of the Marketplace. They should be involved only in the case of fraudulent operators who break the law.
            But I suspect that you don’t want a level playing field. I suspect that you prefer them to favor selected businesses and people.

          • DaveH

            Good people all over the country are being kept from being productive by ridiculous Government meddling, such as this example:
            http://www.syracuse.com/have-you-heard/index.ssf/2011/04/hair_braider_says_utah_cosmeto.html

          • eddie47d

            You try too hard for your Capitalistic utopia. I admire your tenacity in wanting things to work right but human nature keeps getting in the way. There are always those corporates (with or without government interference) who try to get ahead of the game and ruin it for everyone else. Until you can tame the greed that breeds corruption nothing will change.

          • DaveH

            The problem is, Eddie, that you really have no clue what is really going on. I would like you to get a clue. Be the first on your block. Read this book “The Big Ripoff, How Big Business and Big Government Steal Your Money” by Timothy P. Carney.
            From the book:
            “Enron was a tireless advocate of strict global energy regulations supported by environmentalists. Enron also used its influence in Washington to keep laissez-faire bureaucrats off the federal commissions that regulate the energy industry.”

            Get a copy from your library, Eddie, and read it carefully. For all the time you waste regaling us with your anti-capitalism rhetoric, you should easily be able to set aside enough to read this book and get thee some knowledge.

          • eddie47d

            I don’t know how that could be true when Enron in California took down there economy in spades and paid politicians handsomely to destroy environmental measures.

          • JeffH

            eddie says “Enron in California took down there economy in spades”.

            That in and of itself shows just how little you know about California and it’s declined economy. Try to educate yourself instead of making mis-informed statements.

            The state of California employs some two-and-a-quarter million people, includes almost 400 state agencies, oversees 29 different legal codes, administers a tax code that runs to more than 60,000 clauses or sections and spends more than $100 billion a year.
            The political class in Sacramento believes the people of California exist for the state government, not the other way around.
            http://www.thedailycrux.com/content/1920/California
            Liberalism and environmental extremeists in bed with California government have literally regulated businesses out of existance in California.

          • eddie47d

            The California man is blind to the California Enron scandal(ripoff). No wonder Californians take it in the shorts.

          • JeffH

            Blind commitment to a theory is not an intellectual virtue: it is an intellectual crime.
            Imre Lakatos

          • JeffH

            eddie says in his first comment, “I don’t know how that could be true when Enron in California took down there economy in spades and paid politicians handsomely to destroy environmental measures.”

            Then eddies says I’m “blind to the Enron scandal”

            I say make up your mind what you’re talking about. I’m very familiar with the Enron scandal but YOU SAID THAT “ENRON TOOK DOWN CALIFORNIA’s ECONOMY” and I say Enron did not. How does that make me “blind” to the Enron scandal by saying they didn’t destroy California’s economy

            Just admit you don’t know what you are talking about and leave it at that, otherwise you’ll just continue making a fool of yourself.

          • DaveH

            This one’s for Eddie. From “The Big Ripoff, How Big Business and Big Government Steal Your Money” by Timothy P. Carney:
            “The top four donors to 527s [follow below link] in 2004 — and the only donors to spend in the eight figures on that election — all gave exclusively to pro-Democrat groups. Of the top 25 individual donors — all billionaires or multimillionaires — 15 of them gave to pro-Democrat groups, and 10 gave to Republican supporting groups. From this elite group of super-rich donors, the Democratic side got $108.4 million, compared to the Republican sides’s $40 million. Soros and Lewis together spent more to defeat Bush than the 10 most prolific Republican fat cats combined spent to support him.”
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/527_Organization

        • DaveH

          Making some sense out of our current economic environment:
          http://mises.org/daily/5112/Why-Is-Unemployment-So-High

    • pete0097

      They won’t end those tax breaks as they are stockholders of the companies that take advantage of them.

    • FlaJim

      Doc, you clearly have no understanding of the tax code at all. First, US corporate taxes are the highest in the world.

      Second these ‘tax breaks’ the idiot Dems are so fond of referring to have nothing to do with giving selective lower rates to particular companies or industries. They allow a more rapid realization of capital expenditures, freeing up additional funds for additional capital investment. That, in turn, benefits those secondary industries who are suppliers. As an example of a tax inanity, who in their right mind believes that computer equipment amortization should run over the course of 4 years. Much or most is obsolete after two but the tax code says otherwise.

      Third, the retards can’t even make up their minds. The boy in the White House now wants to end ‘fat cats’ riding around on corporate jets yet two years ago, expanded ‘tax breaks’ were part of his porkulus bill. He tells us that ATMs are sympotmatic of why so few jobs are available but now wants to retool idle plants to build robots to cut our grass. He cant get his own stoory straight!

      Fourth, it’s not a ‘tax break’ that corporations get for shipping jobs overseas unless you consider freedom from onerous taxes and expensive regulations here are considered a tax dodge. The cost of completing required forms for various regulatory agencies alone exceeds $400 billion a year in America — the home of the once-free.

      • Thinking About

        It is corporate welfare when businesses receive money from the government and never have to pay it back. It comes with greed in buying members to vote them more welfare. I don’t care if they purchase jets as long as it does not happen at tax payers expense. When you get down to the true rate many corporations pay it is less than the average household pays. They enjoy protection from our defense and use of roads etc, someone has to pay the cost. If the “farmers” (LLC’s) can’t make it on their own the perhaps the next line of work they decide on will support them.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Doc thats why the companies go overseas to avoid the taxes.How can you tax spmeone in another country where you have no jurisdiction?You have been making no sense up until now…I can see that you havent changed.

  • Michael J.

    “I want the cars and planes and wind turbines of the future to bear the proud stamp that says ‘Made in America.’”

    Ooops! Another Obama gaff, he should have said The North American Union stamp. But you can bet that the Obamedia will cover for him. We certainly won’t hear a peep out of Chris Tingle.

  • home boy

    fundamentally changing this country obama style

  • newspooner

    All you need to know is that Juan Peron Obama prefers the UN Charter over the US Constitution. So did Alger Hiss and Josef Djugashvili.

    • DaveH

      Yep. And you can bet the Liberals are busily working towards that end just like the Hamiltonians twisted and turned the Constitution 150 years ago to take power from the States and give it to the Federal Government.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLInio

    Obummer is full of it.

  • Denis

    Obama is just full of crap and needs his ass booted out on the street. However, we as citizens have to walk past the products that don’t say “MADE IN THE USA” and our economy will take major steps That’s how I buy, and it hasn’t changed our way of life-it just makes shopping a bit more tedious. SUPPORT THE USA-TELL ‘EM TO STICK THE IMPORT CRAP(yes, you, Walmart)

    • DaveH

      Our problem isn’t the “import crap”. Our problem is that we have allowed the Political Class to take control of our lives and diminish our Freedom. Our problem is that the same expensive Political Class that is now spending 40% of our Country’s GDP is also regulating our good companies to death, as well as aiding their favorite Crony Capitalists in unfair competition.
      I would think by now that smart people would be waking up to the fact that Government involvement in the economy is not a good thing. How much lower do we need to sink before people take the blinders off?

      For Free Markets, Limited Government, Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, and PEACE — Vote Libertarian:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • DaveH

        No doubt Bush spent like a drunken sailor, but Obama has upstaged him greatly. For those who support the stimulus plans, think about this:
        In 2008 the Federal Government spent $2.9 Trillion. In 2010 the Federal Government spent $3.4 Trillion. That’s $.5 Trillion more. Per person (every man, woman, and child in the country) that is about $1550. Or to put it another way, for every average family (3.1 persons) in the US it is about $4800. Did your family get its $4800? Mine sure didn’t.

    • EltonJ

      When they start implanting chips into our right hands with the prefix 666 and our social security numbers on them, and those who don’t get chipped will get their heads cut off.

      That’s when we wake up.

  • NT1938

    Military reservist are trained and are on call to meet the nation’s needs. Fourteen years in a Signal unit with seven years of three day callup and seven years with first call up that did not include desert Storm was controlled by the presidents serving, even though some were not too smart. Ronald reagan yelled at the Russians to be able to give defense contracts to his supporters. The Russians were already beat if they attacked and the military knew it. We kept our mouths shut and the lies kept coming.

    NOW THE CORPORATIONS STILL WANT TO GET THEIR TAX REBATES AND TO HELL WITH THE ECONOMY. WE NEED TO PUT THOSE MALES THAT DO NOT GRADUATE INTO THE MILITARY FOR TRAINING AND FOR COMPLETING A GED. THESE MALES LEARN ENOUGH TO HACK COMPUTERS AND TO STEAL FROM OLD PEOPLE. TEACHING OF ACCOUNTING IN MIDDLE SCHOOL WOULD BE A WAKE UP CALL FOR THEM TO KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE, SERVING PEOPLE TO EARN A LIVING.

    BEND OVER
    GRAB YOUR KNEES
    VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS

    • James

      Better than
      Get on your knee’s
      vote democrat

  • Worldwatcher77

    Made in America, use to mean something. We have forgotten, I guess.
    I have things made in America that have been around for century’s, not a day and it breaks. Or we don’t have to worry about if the paint is lead based or is it just plain safe? When someone blames the Republicans, you really need to get the facts, anyone with finger pointing, there is four other fingers pointing back at them. We need to look at the politician’s fruits, not what they say. So, we see Obama vote in July for gay pride month. But, does he realize that their vote is only 2% of America population? And, why is that everyone wishes to remove God from everything? If we did, the earth would stop turning, since God is the one that has made it work. If you tell me you don’t believe in God or have faith, I will tell you to take in a breath and hold it. You have to have faith to take another, don’t you? And, all Christians should be Christ like, but most of them aren’t. In some American Legion’s this organization is suppose to be a Christian, but the only Christian things going on is with most everyone using Gods name in vain. Why? We have the prayer after the meeting, not before the dinner we eat. And, this is just plain wrong. But, our Legion is one of the best, I see their dedication to their offices. Obama gave us the change everyone wanted, but it isn’t going to help us to remain free, he needs to be impeached and removed from his office of respect, integrity, honesty, and truth of the United States of America. God, should never be removed from anything. He’s the one that made this world. And, if Obama continues, we don’t have a prayer surviving, unless God shortens the evil we have in offices of liars and fornicators. Media needs to get the truth, not what someone wants to hear. What ever happen to the truth of this world? Love thy neighbor as thyself. And, Honor God. What the world would be like if we did.

    • Bob Marshall

      I can remember a time when that was almost the only label you saw was Made In The USA. Today, you are lucky to see any. Of course that is because i am 67.Times have indeed changed.

  • Bob

    The “Made in America” stamp will come back when the unions are destroyed and people are willing to put in a good day’s work for a good days pay. As long as there are unions, this won’t happen.

    • Worldwatcher77

      I agree with you. I use to be in the Union, but almost got written up alot. I wanted to work, not take a break. Unless, I got tired. Plus, you couldn’t make parts ahead unless the Union would allow you to. But, if the Union is there, the employer couldn’t give you below minium wage, make you work on holidays. Make you work over 40 hours, and not give you overtime. If we would change our tax issue with the IRS, what would this do to the way we live. As in, no taxes taken from the paycheck. Only insurance co-pays removed from the employee’s check. The governement revenue is only from what people buy. As in 10% on every dollar. The economy would jump. Since, everyone has to buy things. Even the rich would pay with this. Even the alien would be buying their food, their cost of fuel. Some would have to get over not getting a tax refund, but we wouldn’t have the people getting checks for having more children than they need to just get bigger tax refunds, would we? I’d love to have one child, but have to put up with a dog. They aren’t the same. I can’t talk dog, can you?
      God only asked for the 10%, why does the governement need more to run a country and God run’s the universe.

      • Bob

        I worked in a union plant for a short time, but I quit before I had to join the union. I could easily have doubled my output but the union prevented me from doing so. That was my first taste of unionism. I have worked around unions ever since and I can say with authority that unions and those who support unions are the enemies of not only the USA, but the enemy of every decent, hard-working person everywhere.

        • eddie47d

          The majority of Made in America labels came from union shops and of excellent quality. It was the corporates who cut corners and forced the workers to put out lower quality products. As hard working union workers were driven out of those businesses that is when shoddy workmanship showed up. It was profit over quality and that brought on our throw away society. Both union and non-union workers can only make what they are presented with. Some unions may be overpaid but nothing like the overpaid management who controls the work they do.

  • C130 Gunship

    Proof is in the pudding….example: Between 82% up to 90% (PBS) of WallyMarts non grocery items they sell come from China. WallyMart is responsible for approximately 10% of our trade deficit with China. The EPAs budget has increased 126% over the last 2 years. We get nothing for that money but anti business regulations that help encourage business to relocate outside of the US. We have a President hell bent on redistributing wealth from those that produce to those who don’t (FSA=Free $hit Army). We have a large number (I can’t get a precise number at this time) of wealthy people leaving the country with most, if not all their wealth (Expats) and now Turbo Timmy is going to step down this fall after the Debt Elevator goes up a couple more floors like it has the last 74 times.

    Could the end be near? What does Turbo Timmy know that some of you don’t know? I’m just asking…..

    • Thinking About

      Redistribution of wealth is welfare to business which should never happen.

      • Bob

        That makes no sense.

    • Michael J.

      C130 Gunship said:
      “Turbo Timmy is going to step down this fall after the Debt Elevator goes up a couple more floors like it has the last 74 times.”

      Geithner has his golden parachute all ready to deploy allright. If it were up to me, he’d get nothimg but a golden shower provided by Janet Reno and Janet Napolitano after they just finished off a keg of Budweiser.

  • Thinking About

    The very most important part of this article is to cease corporate welfare. Who was the intelligent people who provided for corporations getting funds or tax breaks for moving jobs to other countries especially to countries where we continue to have trade deficits. If you don’t like taxes then you should dislike this welfare. What happened to free market if we prop up businesses. Only thing free is the handout taxpayers give to them. Why should we be paying for their jets, etc.

    • DaveH

      There should be no special breaks for any company. Period. Or subsidies. Or favorable regulations. Let’s just get the Government out of our Marketplace, and put them back to their legitimate role of protecting us from the Force of others.
      Let the consumers decide who prospers and who loses. Let’s take those decisions out of the hands of self-interested vote-buying Politicians.

      • http://NA Paul Hayward

        I agree with your commentary on corporations… one of the foundations of Liberty and Free Will was the separation of Church and State, this because the Church’s wealth and influence was controlling governments. If we wish to preserve Liberty, we need to see that history has repeated itself, and there is again undue influence and power over government – in the form of corporations. Do you not believe it is time to call for a separation of Corporation and State?? …yet I hear no one speak of this…

        • DaveH

          I just did.

  • Worldwatcher77

    C130 Gunship,
    I heard a while back where someone was going to Brazil to live, just because our America was going down the tubes. And there, they could live like kings and queens. Why?
    Maybe since America isn’t still free as it use to be. We get the gay pride people that want to change how America is looked at. but they are the ones that are being so violent for this, not the Christians that everyone claims we are. I keep thinking about what others believe in, and if your not believing in God or Jesus, you “god” is laying in a casket for all of you to pray to. But, our God and Jesus is not here, they are alive now and forever more. I watch a person bow to a shrine in his own store, and he explained he was praying to “fairies” are you crazy? What can a fairy tale image of the imagination do for you? And somepeople love to sit with their legs in a very uncomfortable positions and hum, oh I forgot, they call it meditate. But, to me, they should call it, OW, OW, OW
    I’m getting too old for that. Plus, once you open your mind, this allows the forces of evil to enter it. I meditate on the God’s Holy Word, the Bible. This keeps evil from filling our minds. Don’t you think? Timmy maybe just wants to spend more time with his family while he still has time to give them. You need to remember that the media will and can twist and turn anything in the news. If you don’t see them in person, then believe about 1/2 of what you hear and be sceptical about all the rest.

    • Thinking About

      I heard something like that also seems he was going to move to Costa Rica if health care passed here. Know what Costa Rica has national health care. Still hear the same one still enjoying the benefits of living in USA. Thought that was a good way of getting rid of him but it failed.

      • C130 Gunship

        Thinking About–Who are you referring to moving to Costa Rica due to Obummer Care?

        • Thinking About

          His name is Rush Limbaugh

    • C130 Gunship

      Worldwatcher77– Concerning your comments on Timmy…..you are more than welcome to believe he’s leaving (probably) to spend more time with his family, it’s your opinion. However, a closer examination reveals that with Timmy leaving, it will complete the turnover in Obama’s original economic team, with Council of Economic Advisers Chairman Austan Goolsbee scheduled to leave in early August to return to the University of Chicago. All within approx. 2.5 years into the mulatto Mussolini’s horrible tenure. In addition three other top Obama economic advisers already have departed. At the CEA, Goolsbee replaced Romer, who returned to teaching at the University of California at Berkeley last September. National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers and Office of Management and Budget Director Peter Orszag left the administration last year. Summers returned to Harvard University, and Orszag is now vice chairman of global banking at Citigroup Inc. Got that Worldwatcher77-they all have or will be getting off the USS Obamic.

      Now, I will never suggest I’m the brightest bulb in the pack, but from my experience in life so far, this goes into the column of ‘rats jumping off the ship’ versus ‘they want to spend more time with family’.

      The entire political, economic, military and national prestige of this once great nation has tanked under this presidency. I think the aforementioned economic team wants nothing to do with Obama’s presidential legacy because he’s going down as the worst president this country has ever put into office. That being the case, working for the Obama administration makes as much sense as arguing over who’s paying the bar bill on the Titanic.

  • jopa

    Time for you folks to wise up.Sure Obama uses a teleprompter.He also uses a PC, Blackberry,maybe even an I phone more than Washington,Lincoln and Hoover combined.This is today’s technology and should be used to get across a clear message.

    • Bob

      I have yet to hear a “clear” message from maobama; the king of lieberal lying.

    • Raggs

      jopa… I’m surprized you can read at all… As far as oblama being able to read, well I guess he does have the rest of his race beat on that one event…. :)

  • jopa

    Michelle Bachman said she wouldn’t use a teleprompter if elected.Even now using one she sounds very challenged and makes mistake after mistake.Poor speech writers for sure or she may be totally clueless.She does make for great comedy though and I at one time would say anything for a laugh.However she may be the extreme.

  • Bob

    Doc: Your link went to a lieberal writer and musician. What a joke – is that what you consider to be fact? No wonder you are a prime example of lieberal ignorance.

    • James

      Damn Bob don’t you be taking away his source. If his source say’s it’s so, it’s gotta be so. That’s why you can’t argue with liberals, they don’t believe in facts.

      • eddie47d

        I’ve seen a few Conservative sources that are “jimmy rigged” to favor the right.It all depends on who is doing the writing.

    • http://NA Paul Hayward

      The mere possession of intelligence does not make one wise… while you may be a sentient being with valid points to make, you certainly lack civility, something you may want to acquire if you wish to moderate a true exchange of ideas – and retain some semblance of an ability to influence those who do not share your concepts.

      • karolyn

        Good one, Paul. Bob is just another angry old man who loves to call people names and spread hate. No chance for intelligent exchange of ideas there. Actually, great many of the conservatives who post here are of the same mind.

        • DaveH

          Funny that I hear nothing from you when Denniso or the other Liberals spew their venom on people.

          • karolyn

            Dave – When a post is directed at me, I respond, especially when it is fallacious and mean-spirited. I don’t condone anybody being mean-spirited or downright ugly. Unfortunately, that’s the only way some people know how to get their point across.

          • DaveH

            That’s odd, because I could have sworn that Bob’s post was directed at Doc.

        • http://NA Paul Hayward

          I come from a New England family that has lived 8 generations in one spot… we have seen it come and go. My ancestors arrived in 1631 and my family members have served this country for generations – some giving their lives. This has given me a perspective of this nation as a wonderful gem with many facets – and I further realize that though I am a conservative, we do not have a monopoly on bright ideas. I happen to agree with Bob on many points he has raised and would only wish that he be able to present his ideas without turning off those who could most benefit from them. Intelligence without civility becomes arrogance… something none of us can afford in these times…

          • eddie47d

            Thanks Paul for the voice of reason.

  • Harold Olsen

    “Made in America” doesn’t seem to mean much these days. I don’t know about anyone else, but when I see that label I think of products that are not just American made but ARE American.

    A week or so back, I saw an ad for Toyota automobiles. The ad touted the fact that Toyotas are “made in America,” implying that they are American cars, which they are not. I call that deceptive advertising.

    I’ve also seen ads for products that ARE made in American and ARE American products. The problem is, the parts are oftentimes made in foreign countries, so I don’t really consider them to be American made or American products.

  • CaptTurbo

    I would like to have a president that has a stamp (Real Birth Cert) that says Made in the USA.

    • Thinking About

      How was I to know there would remain people like you, birth certificate in long form was provided and you still don’t get it. Waste of time.

  • ONTIME

    It can’t be made in America if jerks like him and his kind keep screwing up and running industry out of the country…..Get rid of the Bazo’s

  • http://1776 g.Bush

    Reagan was a brain dead puppet just like all of them.we havent had a presidiant that cared about us or this country since 1913 wen the privet fedral reserve took root. Now i know that most of you cant and wont beleive this but do your research read some real history books stop waching fox,cnn msnbc,try the druge report.im sorry to say that our next pres will be the same meat puppet also.you will see their wont be no change accept in your pocket.(if we are lucky)

  • Joey Biden

    Just more blah, blah, blah from Oblama. This empty headed idiot has done nothing in 2 years to promote Made In The USA products. In fact, more MITUSA companies continue to close or go overseas. This is his plan.

    • Raggs

      More like CHI-MEX made.

  • Patriot

    No politician in Washington cares about the people that elected them. Their more interested in helping their corporate buddies. It’s time to clean house.

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-can-america-create-wealth-if-our-industrial-base-is-destroyed-50000-manufacturing-jobs-have-been-lost-every-month-since-2001

    • Patriot

      They are rather than Their!

      • eddie47d

        Bob below is continuing his arrogant love fest about himself while ripping away at others. He should take Paul’s advise.

        • JeffH

          One should examine oneself for a very long time before thinking of condemning others. ~Moliere

          • eddie47d

            I did and I was very correct in what I said.

          • JeffH

            “Self-praise can be put in the same class as anything else you get for nothing”

          • eddie47d

            A Shakespeare you are not. A court jester? Maybe!

          • JeffH

            eddie the repeating parrot you are. Void of original thought, eddie the reapting parrot will repeat whatever he hears or is told. eddie the repeating parrot is the #1 seller at at all Democratic/Marxist/communist/progressive/liberal gatherings. Order yours today at http://www.democrats.org…recieve an additional 30% discount if you can say “baaahhhh” without being prompted.

  • Bob

    Karolyn: Your comment on drones proves once again that you are a lieberal idiot. Drones are unproductive bees that are pushed out of the hive every winter to die because they are parasites like you. Worker bees are just that – workers (Look it up, fool). What a drone and liar you are! By the way, I only tear down those who attempt to build up the lies of lying leberal liars such as yourself; people who are productive, honest, and decent know me as someone who is quite supportive. Parasites who are proud of their parasitism will find me quite viscious, and that is how it should be.

    • karolyn

      I stand corrected, which is more than what you would do. How dare you presume to know anything about me! You may know some of my politics and a few other things, but you know nothing about my life or who I really am! As far as lying goes, that is not in my repertoire. It is just a convenient word you use, which really doesn’t fit anything. When people voice what they believe, it is not a lie.

  • Raggs

    Bob L… I think that you answered your own question.
    oblama DOES NOT want America to grow or produce jobs that is the whole point of having all of the government ran ANTI-AMERICAN agencies that willingly draft “laws” and regulations to kill off what remains of Capitolizm in America.. oblama has ALWAYS been ANTI-BUSINESS as long as it pretains to the American way… You see he feels as if American business should give a minimal 90% of their profit to the government so that the government can “SPREAD” the wealth.. It hurts poor bubba’s feelings to see people actually making it ( a successful living ) while he does his best to rip off everything that he possibly can in the name of Socializm…
    This sorry excuse of a man is not hard to figure out, but the hard part is going to be stopping him.

  • EltonJ

    I watched a video that showed the intelligence of Our President. He’s worse than George Bush at times.

    He constantly gets words wrong.

    • Raggs

      Personally speaking… I would never waste a seconds time watching the idiot.

      • EltonJ

        Some of us need the truth about this man drummed into us. The video was made for the liberal who still has a head on his shoulders.

  • Joswiftee

    I thought it was congress job to come up with jobs to put the people back to work.As long as I’ve been alive I never seen president make jobs. And didn’t Reagan start sending all our manufacturing jobs oversees because of all the tax increases.

  • Timothy Manning

    Some corporations continue to receive tax credits. The key phase in this ariticle is “multinational corporations continue to enjoy tremendous tax breaks” while the majority of corporations- those that create jobs and truely stimulate the economy, you know the “smaller corportations” continue to get hit harder and harder by those in elected office today. Until Americans wake up and see what is really happening and do something about it, things will only get worse until “smaller corporations are extinct!”

  • johnnysal

    Karolynn must have been educated in the public schools. A drone is not the definition of a worker bee. The drone services the Queen and is then turned out of the hive. I hope the current drone is turned out of the White House now that he has serviced China his queen.

    • karolyn

      Unfortunately, it’s difficult to remember what one was taught in kindergarten or first grade after nearly 60 years!

  • Thinking About

    Glad some have brought up parasites since we have many businesses sucking the life out of tax money, not loans but handouts.

    • Raggs

      Hummmm…. Wouldn’t those be the unions?.. Ya know oblama’s pocket monkeys.. The unions are the only ones that received MY money in the form of buy-outs and it’s funny how you are crying about that…:)

      • eddie47d

        I believe he was referring to the corporates who take tax money and doesn’t give back in producing jobs but still lives high on the hog on our dime. That would be your Elite pocket monkeys.

        • Raggs

          Well.. the only ones that are that low are the same ones you call democrats.

          • eddie47d

            Raggs; LOL

  • i41

    There is plenty of parasites Thinking about it, welfare offspring because the sires are off creating more crossbreds for taxpayers to raise. A sharp knife and a salt pack usually cures the problem, then put the steers out on to cleaning up road ditches and cleaning up where needed, 12 hours a day. As for pocket monkeys, Biden is Onumnutt’s Elite pool cue when when he is playing pocket pool, no wonder Plugs needs chalking all the time, since Onumnutt is always scratching. Oil companies only get tax relief breaks, not cash and sure do produce high paying jobs that enable workers to live high on the hog. They still pay great stock dividends to worthless union (offensive words removed), that kill jobs and get taxpayer funded stimulas money from the (word removed) crossbred, and yet that still hasn’t produced any jobs!

    • Thinking About

      I am talking about GE who paid no tax and received money from tax payers. I talking about Haliburton who received a no bid contract to suck as much as possible in war of choice in Iraq. I am talking about McDonalds getting money to sell orange juice in Japan. I talking about outrageous toilet seats and hammers many times inflated from defense contractors. I am talking about Medicare pharmacy plan which did not allow for negotiated pricing and the Medicare is going broke from programed fraud. Congress is easily bought off with big bucks towards their “reelections”. This could go on and on.

  • American Made…

    Obama…
    Making Carter look like a genius…

  • B.C.

    Reagan simply barrowed a huge amount of money, and dumped it into the economy, we have virtually no debt with carter leaving office, and we were in a bad spot economically, but for all the talk Reagan-heads do, his actions where not much better then Obamas economically.

    Who cares that he lowered taxes, he opened up trade with impoverished countries, he was the guy that started the move of jobs out of the country, you just didn’t notice as it started slowly, but the changes started with him, but it din’t end with him, we have Bush Sr., Clinton, Ford, pretty much all the suck fishes there to push NAFTA.

    I say any president can make his time in office look good if he can borrow huge amounts of money (that we have to pay back in the future) then just skip out at the end of his term and leave us holding the bill.

    I would just love for some jerk here to go ahead and tell me this is not exactly what happened with the Reagan party of the 80’s … ‘fighting a cold war‘, please, want a bunch of fools.

    The ONLY difference was we weren’t borrowing if from red China.
    But your buddy Reagan started the big credit card thing in this country.
    And now we can’t stop

    We are all screwed big time, and everyone will continue to blame everyone until China owns the U.S.

    I don’t worship either of these parties, they are both corrupted, and work together to sell us out, using our own money at times to buy off the people.

    They are all puppets anyway, and we sit like fools watching them.

  • American Citizen

    Sometimes I wonder if Obama has the beginnings of Alzheimer’s. He seems to forget a lot and get a lot of facts wrong.

    • EltonJ

      He’s just stupid. that’s all. He should have resigned a year ago.

      • Kate8

        EltonJ – It’s more like he just has trouble keeping track of all the lies.

        It gets confusing when your stories depend on which group you’re talking to.

  • Thinking About

    Perhaps the “facts” given to was wrong and you may not know the truth yet.

  • JimH

    I would like to see Obama not hinder the purchasing and ownership of products produced by these American companies. Colt, Remington, Winchester, Smith& Wesson,Ruger and the many other firearms manufacturer’s that employ U.S. citizens.

  • jopa

    Daveh Checked out the YouTube site you posted On Obama mumbling and stumbling with his words at a town hall meeting.That was hilarious.It reminds me of one time when Elvis was in concert and he forgot the words to one of his songs half way through.

  • jeanelane

    The whole point of the article that I read, was the fact that corporations that don’t need tax breaks because they make so much money are the ones that receive them. Small businesses are being forced out of business everyday because of regulations they can’t afford. It doesn’t matter who the president is. It is everyone who allows this. It is everyone who wants the world handed to them on a platter. It is everyone who thinks they deserve a large paycheck so they can just check out of life, responsibilities to others. Maybe some of you don’t fit this mold, but most of the people do. That is why we have the fear-mongers in control. The lemmings believe everything they are told because they can’t believe that anyone would lie to them.

    I am always surprised when I found a ‘Made in America/U.S.A’ on a product, or ‘Grown in the U.S.A.’.

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