Lois Lerner Will Testify About IRS Scandal — If She’s Granted Immunity

former Director of Exempt Organizations

Lois Lerner, the former director of the Internal Revenue Service’s division responsible for quelling Tea Party groups while fast-tracking liberal nonprofits during President Barack Obama’s re-election campaign, told a House oversight panel this in May:

I have not done anything wrong, I have not broken any laws, I have not violated any IRS rules or regulations and I have not provided false information to this or any other congressional committee. While I would very much like to answer the committee’s questions today, I have been advised by my counsel to assert my constitutional right not to testify or answer questions related to the subject manner of this hearing.

Then she attempted to invoke her 5th Amendment right not to testify against herself.

But now Lerner’s changed her mind, offering to testify about the IRS discrimination scandal — if she’s guaranteed immunity from prosecution. (Hey, no problem — she didn’t do anything wrong, remember?)

On Wednesday, Lerner’s attorney said she would testify before the House oversight committee, telling POLITICO: “They can obtain her testimony tomorrow by doing it the easy way … immunity. That’s the way to resolve all of this.”

The House oversight panel held a bipartisan vote last week, determining that Lerner indeed waived her 5th Amendment protection when, at her hearing in May, she prefaced her “silence” against self-incrimination by first telling the panel she was innocent of any wrongdoing. Republicans pounced, noting that Lerner attempted to have her legal cake and eat it, too, by rewriting the rules on how much a witness can say before clamming up under Constitutional protection.

Under the committee’s assertion that she waived her 5th Amendment rights, Lerner could be held in contempt if she refuses to testify at a future, as-yet unscheduled recall appearance.

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • Anonymous

    Now that they have determined that Lois Lerner had waived her right to claim the fifth due to her previous statements. She should be compelled to testify OR FACE JAIL TIME FOR PERJURY/CONTEMPT. MAYBE a little time behind bars will refresh her memory a bit….

    • dan

      …she vas only following orders…but ve have ways of making her talk !
      This is what Gitmo vacations are all about…I’ll bet her memory would come back before the plane took off.

      • Vis Fac

        Plane, what plane? I’d make her swim.

  • mnkysnkle

    Of course, if you can grant amnesty to 11 million crooks, why not give immunity to just one more crook. Or she could plea bargain for a lesser charge of treason.

  • ezekiel22

    Even if Lerner testifies what is going to happen? When she first pulled the fifth out of thin air people knew an amnesty deal would be offered should she testify. This part is for political show as who really offered the deal in the first place would prove out the strength of one side or the other. If Lerner offered first it would show her case as weak whereas if the House offered first it would show their weakness. Ms. Lerner has had more than enough time to clean up her story and to cover for those that are at the heart of this matter. I won’t even get into the quality of her testimony.

  • Warrior

    Give me more “circuses”, pretty please. I wonder if it’s too late for morsi to catch up to the tail end of the African adventure?

  • http://www.facebook.com/bruce.a.silver Bruce A Silver

    This is how the corrupt government country club gets away with the crimes they commit. They first plead the fifth and then they want immunity to be given to them to testify. She should be put in jail just like any other criminal, and left there until she is willing to tell the truth about her crimes.

  • Vigilant

    Granting of immunity hinges on whether she is expected to disclose the involvement of “higher ups.” Congressional committees will have to make that determination.

    Plea bargaining the charges down is another option, used previously by John Dean in the Watergate debacle.

    Or, she could go to jail for contempt as Susan McDougal did during the Whitewater proceedings.

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Who is Ms. Lerner afraid of and I know it is not the Republicans? Hell hath no fury like the Dems/Proggies/Leftists scorned.


    As far as Americans are concerned this overpaid fatbutt clown is already guilty of contempt, as far as her getting immunity for doing the right thing, I will have to see and hear it before I even consider believing it…

  • mari

    What a tangled web we weave when first we started to deceive…I’m innocent, but I take the fifth, oh, and I’ll testify if I’m given immunity. Give her immunity only if she tells the whole truth. You’ll get a lot of information, but since the truth is not in her she will lie about something and then the trap will spring shut.

  • marylou

    Where DO they find people like her?
    The truth will set her free….or..it won’t :-)