Like Lambs To The Slaughter

0 Shares

The NSA keeps its eyes on the prize. Obama likes the ladies. And Bill Maher looks in the mirror. All this — plus — Joe can spell! Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight; from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

Join the Discussion

Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don't stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

  • Average_Joe56

    Was that a picture of Nancy Pelosi or Mrs. Ida Lowry (Catherine Helmond) in “Brazil” (1985)? They look like twins…

    http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20310838_20540874_21074104,00.html

    • Vigilant

      Looks like the north end of a horse going south.

      • WTS/JAY

        A bath and a good shave wouldn’t hurt her in the least!

        • JeffH

          Even better, a closer shave right around her juglar.

        • Average_Joe56

          Pelosi has had so many facelifts, if she gets one more, she’ll have a cleft chin, goatee and a bellybutton on her forehead…..

          • WTS/JAY

            Lol!

    • Average_Joe56

      Look…. Diane Feinstein’s College yearbook photo… circa 1955 b.f. (before fata55)

      http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20310838_20540874_21074104,00.html#21074103

      ;)

  • dan

    one hundred million reasons to enact Operation Dumbo …parachute optional
    (just wanted to give the boys at the NSA something to scramble for this morning)

  • Warrior

    Obviously the American “public” does not realize how dangerous this collection of “data” is. So imagine now that anyone who thinks of running for a political office will be “vetted” by who is in control of the information. Every phone call, e-mail, tweet, blog conversation. There will be a “dossier” kept on everyone. So, for example, if John Smith wants to run for office, well, let’s just say he better be in the same “camp” as those in control of the information, otherwise……..You can fill in the blank. This makes the irs escapades look like child’s play. All candidates for every office will be selected for you (as if for the highest offices it is not already being done). Freedom? I think it already gone!

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Maxine Waters knew long ago that the Kenyan Kriminal and Pervert was putting together a database that it never been seen before, a database of EVERITHING on EVERYBODY.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElHmZnlHuks
      FASCISM+Kommunism+islamism are marching in America.
      One nation under SURVEILLANCE.

      • DenverKitty

        Alondra: Maxey’s stupidity is very nearly unbelievable. Doesn’t she realize that she is NOT exempt from government spying?

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Maxey is as ANY DEMONcrap and RINO.

          • DenverKitty

            I just spoke with my neighbor…nice guy, but a liberal democrat until the day he dies. He just WON’T put the blame on Obama for his downgraded work situation or rising prices in his healthcare and everyday shopping/living costs. KT

          • FreedomFighter

            Not many have the gift of discernment, a gift that is a 2 edged sword, be careful whom you speak with they will turn on you in a heartbeat for a loaf of bread when the food gets scarce..

          • DenverKitty

            Freedom: We spoke of generalities: him being laid off several days per month, tree & hedge trimming, weather, rising prices…kept it general, but you are right. He would kill for a loaf of bread when, not if, the going gets rough. Me? I’d forget the bread and stay locked and loaded. Bread’s bad for the hips anyway! LOL. Kitty

          • JeffH

            Locked & loaded…you put a smile on my face.
            If and when TSHTF…it’ll be far easier to get food, water and TP from the anti-gun liberals and progressives…at gunpoint.(tongue in cheek)

          • DenverKitty

            Jeff: I hope and pray that it never comes to open warfare. I’ve been reading “The Harbinger…it’s very interesting, and I recommend it. You have yourself a real fine day now, ya’ hear. LOL Kitty

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The book is really good and thoughtful reading.

          • DenverKitty

            Nad, I’m only on page 220, but I’m set to order “The Harbinger Companion w/workbook” next week! Excited! Kitty

          • JeffH

            DK, I feel the same way. Isn’t there a DVD set based on The Harbinger?

          • DenverKitty

            Jeff, I believe there is a DVD available, but I prefer the written word…only because, as I read, my own memories surface of what I have seen or heard or read before someone says it for me. Old dog, that’s me! LOL. I take the book with me, to the beach where I can get a tan (hopefully) and keep myself awake and interested. Kitty

          • JeffH

            DK, I agree with you…I’d much rather read a book than “watch one”. Thanks for the recommendation of The Harbinger. I’ll have to look for it at the library.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Another book that is really hard digesting is by Jim Marrs, The Rise Of The Fourth Reich. I am up to chapter 12, Guns, Drugs, and Eugenics and it is creeping me out how similar we are from late 1930s’ Germany and USA today 2013.

          • DenverKitty

            Nad, thanks for the tip; I’ll definitely look into the book! I’m not so young anymore that when I was younger, I met people who were Holocaust survivors…complete with numbers tattoos — they recited horror stories that I’ll never forget as long as I live. Add to that that my stepfather was practically an authority on WWII and the Nazi Regime (Reich)…scary stuff. Kitty

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        How is it going Alondra? lways good to hear from you. Here is anarticle that deals with talking to the 5th column on this site.
        http://www.creation.com/aggressive-atheists
        Here are some about the FBI.
        http://www.patriotupdate.com/2013/06/fbi-director-cutting-holes-through-the-constitution/
        http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/13/fbi-director-to-undergo-questioning-by-house-panel/
        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Whatever makes men good Christians, makes them good citizens.”
        Daniel Webster
        American statesman
        Devout Christian

      • JeffH

        Oh how they love that criminal nutcase in Southern California.

      • Don 2

        Thanks Alondra. I recall Waters letting this cat out of the bag some time ago. I also remember her threatening the oil companies during a congressional hearing, saying that they would just take them over. Amazing that anyone would vote for a statist like her.

      • FreedomFighter

        Maxine Waters is a 60s throwback racist with a very small intellect and myopic view of the world, easily manipulated by the powers that be.
        Rumors Continued
        Rumor 3: NSA or CIA Government operatives in contact with south American drug lords, esp. Mexican based drug operations have cut a deal to allow 500 kilos of cocaine to be transported into the USA without any chance of being detected or busted for every Islamic terrorist killed trying to cross into the US across our southern border. This is based on a head count, bodies not needed, just heads as proof. Its not exactly known how counts are verified or shipments routed.
        Please feel free to spread this rumor
        Laus DeoSemper FI

    • mari

      You hit the nail on the head. Our future is bleak if people believe that the government will adhere to their word and not use this information for their own nefarious purposes. The recent past decries their ability to speak the truth, or keep their word. I think that the IRS and the EPA’s mishandlings of information were a first guard to test the public waters. Also they serve to desensitize the public to this whole topic.
      Not only will candidates need the right background, but witnesses will have to be willing to have their darkest secrets revealed if they want to speak up. I think this is already happening. We are seeing the last vestiges of freedom fade.
      …………………America, America, God shed His grace on thee………………… …………………and crown thy good with brotherhood,…………………………….. ………………….from sea to shining sea.
      We are leaving the days of brotherhood and entering the night of BIG BROTHER.

  • FreedomFighter

    Great 8 as usual Ben

    Like Lambs To The Slaughter — I like the title…and it fits for the new underground rumors coming in on the fires and explosions now happening in America.

    Rumor 1: Fires and explosions are distractions carried out by rogue agents in our own government and combined with the statement by Oblamer about chemical weapons, are meant to distract Americans away from current scandals of our government agencies and presidenta.
    Rumor 2: We are under attack by Islamic extremists cells, whom btw have made numerous statements claiming to want to set all of America on fire and burn America. Due to all the intel gathering scandals our government is not going to admit the failure to find or detect such cells, let alone not being able to stop them. Further rumoring information describes the terrorist cells as coming across the southern border like illegal aliens and being both financed by and harbored in mosques around the south and south west. They are using cab covered pick up trucks with portable lasers to start fires from long distances that resemble in many ways lightning strikes. Even shakier information describes the Russian Speshnats hired by DHS and now roaming around western states “training” are working with US Military special forces hunting these Islamic firebugs.
    IMHO if I had to pick one, its Rumor 2, with a dash of lightning thrown in to make it fun.
    Laus DeoSemper Fi

    • Warrior

      The “invasion” is indeed “breathtaking”. Whole u.s. cities & villages currently being overrun faster than anyone can imagine. I wonder, will the “Syrian” refugees be of “Christian” nature?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Here is an article about that.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/importing-jihad-obama-considers-bringing-syrian-refugees-to-america/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “You this day have received a public education, the purpose whereof hath been to qualify you the better to serve your Creator and your country.”
        William Samuel Johnson
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

        • FreedomFighter

          The more we find out about Oblamer…the less American he looks, will America survive this Manchurian Candidate?

          “Whole u.s. cities & villages currently being overrun faster than anyone can imagine”

          The frightening thing is this has already happened in Europe and is now starting here, even accelerating with Oblamer pushing the pedal to the metal to ship them into America

          Laus Deo
          Semper FI

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The result is a diluted population that will tow the Dem/Prog/Leftist ideology and will not put up a squawk when freedom is lost. But then they never had any loyalty to freedom to begin with. Why would a people coming to freedom loving country be willing and want to recreate the hellholes they left behind?

          • WTS/JAY

            Nadzieja: Why would a people coming to freedom loving country be willing and want to recreate the hellholes they left behind?

            Because they have chit for brains. Or rather, completely brainwashed!

          • WTS/JAY

            OBAMA SPY SCANDAL PART 2: INFILTRATE, TARGET, HARASS CHURCHES…NOT MOSQUES, CHURCHES

            Here’s the thing. All of the bombs, all of the terror plots are jihad. Over 21,000 deadly Islamic attacks since 911. Obama is surveilling all except the mosques — the barracks of jihad. Obama’s war on the churches is a stunning indictment of who and what he is — the most dangerous man to ever hold that seat of immense power.

            Spying on the churches? It wasn’t national security — so what was it for? Totalitarian thuggery and unfathomable abuse of power. Obama is a vicious and dangerous autocrat. Where are the defenders of freedom working to impeach this scourge on our country? Oust the caliph!

            http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/obama-spy-scandal-part-2-infiltrate-target-harass-churchesnot-mosques-churches.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

          • WTS/JAY

            PAMELA GELLER, BREITBART COLUMN: “WHAT ISLAMIC SUPREMACISM REALLY IS”

            “What Islamic Supremacism Really Is” Pamela Geller, Breitbart…

            Our victory in this global conflict will only be assured when the majority of Americans (and all free people) truly understand the nature of the conflict. The common man is being willfully misled by the political and media elites about the religious imperative that is behind the Islamic war against the West. Most people have still never even heard of Islamic supremacism – or realize just how pervasive it is.

            http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/atlas-articles/

      • WTS/JAY

        Warrior: I wonder, will the “Syrian” refugees be of “Christian” nature?

        Most definitely not! Of what purpose could they be to the muslim-in-office? No, the majority will most certainly be of a radical-disposition, with a few moderates…? sprinkled in the mix to give it appearance of legitimacy.

  • Bob666

    The difference between Bill Maher and Ben Crystal is; Maher is funny, gets paid very well to be funny and does not require a laugh track to make up for not being funny.

    • David N Polister

      Then why do you come here to troll?

      • Bob666

        Hello David,
        Why do you come here? Just to call people names?

        • Cole Johnson

          David did not call you names! more of your pathetic lies! wow! your reading and comprehension skills are a total failure! do you ever get it right? David is right, you are just trolling!

          • Bob666

            Cole,

            Troll is not a name?

            My reading and comprehension skills are a total failure?

          • Cole Johnson

            trolling is an action! not a name! yes your reading and comprehension skills are a failure again! wow! such a lack of education from the best education system in the world! You failed again bob!

          • Bob666

            Wow Cole,
            Tell us about your education, I have about 30 seconds.

          • Average_Joe56

            trolling

            1 Being a prick on the internet because you can. Typically unleashing one or more cynical or sarcastic remarks on an innocent by-stander, because it’s the internet and, hey, you can.

            2. Trolling
            The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn’t count as trolling; it’s just flaming, and isn’t funny. Spam isn’t trolling either; it pisses people off, but it’s lame.
            3. Trolling Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions, or other foolishness. However, trolling statements are never true or are ever meant to be construed as such. Nearly all trolled statements are meant to be funny to some people, so it does have some social/entertainment value.
            http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trolling
            We’ve all noticed that you have a commanding use of the English language Bob……(Sarcasm)

          • Bob666

            Wow Average-You really are unleashed today.

          • Average_Joe56

            I’ve never been leashed…Sorry that you have…..you’ve been a bad puppy, huh? Did you miss the paper again? Or did you chew up another shoe…getting to your feet?

          • WTS/JAY

            What is a Troll?
            An Internet “troll” is a person who delights in sowing discord. He tries to start arguments and upset people. Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse.

            What Can be Done about Trolls?
            The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.
            When you try to reason with a troll, he wins. When you insult a troll, he wins. When you scream at a troll, he wins. The only thing that trolls can’t handle is being ignored.

            Comment: I’d take a different approach, because I think even that kind of minimal comment is an acknowledgement that the troll exists, which will feed his craving for attention & lead only to more posts from him. Much better, I think, to ignore him totally & literally.

            What Not to Do
            Do not post a dramatic “Goodbye!” message. This convinces the troll that he is winning the battle. There is, perhaps, no message you can write that is as damaging as an announcement that you are leaving because of the hostility that the troll has kindled.

            The Webmaster’s Challenge
            The moderator may not be able to delete a troll’s messages right away, but their job is made much harder if they also have to read numerous replies to trolls. They are also forced to decide whether or not to delete posts from well-meaning folks which have the unintended effect of encouraging the troll.

            What about Free Speech?
            When trolls find that their efforts are being successfully resisted, they often complain that their right to free speech is being infringed. Free speech is not an absolute right; there are practical limitations.

            The ultimate response to the ‘free speech’ argument is this: while we may have the right to say more or less whatever we want, we do not have the right to say it wherever we want. Similarly, if a webmaster tells a troll that he is not welcome, the troll has no “right” to remain.

            Why Do They Do It?
            Trolls crave attention, and they care not whether it is positive or negative.

            http://www.newshounds.us/2005/09/19/antitroll_resources.php

          • Bob666

            Oh Average,
            Never been into leashing. Keep looking for that acorn in the woods-you will find it one day!

          • Bob666

            Ye Averge,
            I get the urban word emailed to me every day-they are kind of funny. They deal a lot with feminine hygiene products as well.

            Need Some?

            Get Some!

          • Cole Johnson

            is that the limit of your attention span? our American policies do not concern you bobby!

          • Bob666

            Well Cole,
            american politics do concern me-that is why I come here, and you?????

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Which variety of American Politics concerns you? Conservatives and Libertarians have no problems telling the truth so there is no need to watch and monitor them. Leftists like yourself hide and obfuscate and con and manipulate and straight lie so it can’t be that you don’t trust your own kind.

          • Bob666

            Yo Nads,
            Did the lights get turned off and you have come out with thte rest of the cockroaches?

            ” Leftists like yourself hide and obfuscate and con and manipulate and straight lie so it can’t be that you don’t trust your own kind”.

            Not a liberal or leftest, I’m a libertarian. On day you will get it right-I’m rooting for you!

          • WTS/JAY
          • JeffH

            Delusional 666 says “I’m a libertarian”.
            666 is delusional and a flat out liar!

          • Bob666

            Oh Jeffery,
            “666 is delusional and a flat out liar”!

            Put up or shut up…………

          • JeffH

            Been there and done that! A real Libertarian would never try to silence someone. A faux libertarian, aka a progressive would though….Poor baby is getting ticked off?

          • Bob666

            Oh Jeffery,
            As I suspected-all mouth, no substance.

            As for being ticked off, it will take far more of a man than you will ever hope to be to accomplish that.

            My wife wanted to know-ever been married?

          • JeffH

            You mean your ignorant wife?

          • Bob666

            Jeffery,
            Thank you for showing just what a low-life you really are. So now you take shots at a guys wife?

            very sad and pathetic.

          • JeffH

            Hey ya twisted moron, ya can’t have your cake and eat it too. Don’t blame me for your failings. Remember, it was you who was irresponsible and it was you who brought your wife into the conversation in the first place, not I.

            Any blame rests squarely on your shoulders!

            It is you who is the low-life for “using” her in your little game and it is you who should apologize to your wife for “using” her in your little game. Stupid is as stupid does.

            That’s right pathetic 666, you “used” her and now you don’t like the end result of your little game. Next time try to think just a little before you speak because what you say always comes back to bite you in the arse.

            The sore loser get’s no apology from me.

          • Bob666

            Oh Jeffery,
            You are the original troll-Like the ones that hide under bridges-No Nads-all mouth.
            As for Pathitic, I would bet that you are a lonly old man who has PLD as his only connection to like.

            As far as losers go, you are the REAL deal. Go hug you gun-that’s all you have.
            It fathers day-my family is on it’s way over and I am reminded as how fortunate I am.

          • JeffH

            Au contraire. You’ve been the one trolling after Jay, samurai and myself and you’re the one that leads all other posters, by a wide margin, in posting comments…not the other way around and I’ve got the proof to back it up!

            1. Bob666 – 1106 comments
            2. samurai – 628 comments
            4. JeffH – 567 comments
            11. WTS/JAY – 474 comments

            Hmmmm, looks as if the hypocrit 666 stuck his foot in his mouth “AGAIN” when he said “As for Pathitic, I would bet that you are a lonly old man who has PLD as his only connection to like.”

            666, all of your cowardly “big talk” means nothing.

            Wah! Wah! Wah! Such a crybaby!
            Does the desperate POLLY WANT MORE CRACKERS?

          • Bob666

            Bla-bla-bla,
            Desperate-no, but if it helps you get thorough your pathetically lonely life-you can keep that thought.
            Jeffery want some testosterone?

          • JeffH

            RE: the post above yours!

            1. Bob666 – 1106 comments
            2. samurai – 628 comments
            4. JeffH – 567 comments
            11. WTS/JAY – 474 comments

            Can easily be verified by left click on “community” at the top of these comments just under the comment box.

            NUFF said!

          • WTS/JAY

            Well, the proof is in the pudding, JeffH. It appears the Troll has no life but the life we give it, when we respond to it. Almost makes you feel sorry for the poor thing, doesn’t it? But where else can the poor thing go? Back under the bridge? Btw, could it play golf under a bridge?

          • JeffH

            Jay, that might be a problem. It would need some balls…can’t play golf without ‘em.

            Hope you’re having a pleasant father’s day.

          • WTS/JAY

            Happy Father’s day to you as well, JeffH!

          • JeffH

            TY!

          • Average_Joe56

            “My wife wanted to know-ever been married?”

            Why is it any of HIS business?

          • Bob666

            Should we start taking about your husband?

          • Average_Joe56

            It’s a free country (illusion), although it would be better if you came up with an original thought…rather than trying to piggy back on someone else’s.
            Simply saying: “I know you are, but what am I?” …shows lack of independent and original thought. Pee Wee Herman, thou art…. NOT……

          • vicki

            JeffH doesn’t need to. Reading your posts is all anyone needs to know that you might be many things but libertarian is not one of them.

          • WTS/JAY

            I think he’s a Trollitarian.

          • JeffH

            Now that is funny!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is so true! Here is an article that shows how God is still giving us what we are fighting for.
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2335/god-is-still-willing-to-give-his-people-what-they-are-willing-to-fight-for/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Respect your country always. Respect your government, when they earn it.”
            Samuel Clemons

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Oh, I see, but if you are playing the Devil’s Advocate then kindly admit it. I know that metal sharpens metal and a sharp mind sharpens another sharp mind but your childish behavior is just that CHILDISH and all you do is behave as an irritant to not be bothered with. Your call.

          • WTS/JAY

            The Troll is desperately lonely and seeking an anti-troll/host to attach itself to for nourishment. Starve the Troll-parasite by not responding to it.

          • Bob666

            Oh Jay,

            “he Troll is desperately lonely and seeking an anti-troll/host to attach itself to for nourishment”

            Now that was funny.

          • Bob666

            Well Nads,
            You are on the right track, bit oh so far away. Craw out of the rabbit hole-the sun is shining!

          • Average_Joe56

            “Then why do you come here to troll?”
            Bob666, notice the word “to” between the words “here” and “troll”? As pointed out earlier, you seem to have reading comprehension problems. A remedial course may be in order…. Learn to READ.
            So, in answer to your question, No! The word troll in this case…is not a name…it is an act…trolling…got it?

          • Bob666

            Average,
            A troll is a supernatural being in Norse mythology and Scandinavian folklore. In origin, troll may have been a negative synonym

          • Average_Joe56

            Trolls, are considered a “race” and is therefore capitalized….versus being an internet troll….an act….not a race……..

          • Bob666

            If I lack significance-why do you spend time with me?

          • Average_Joe56

            Because…you’re EASY…..

          • Bob666

            And we call you Average-because you are.

          • Average_Joe56

            Actually, you call me that, because that’s the moniker that I chose to use…and you had no say in it at all….Trying to take credit for someone else’s work? You must be a Democrat……..or a complete buffoon…..

          • JeffH

            Oh so wrong again 666.

            An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

          • Bob666

            That funny Jeffery,
            “An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion”.

            You just described yourself to a Tee!

            You know how I yearn for your acceptance:>

          • Bob666

            Yo So Average,
            I got what you said, your problem is; I really don’t care what you said.

            Got it?????

          • vicki

            and yet you keep responding to Average-Joe. How interesting.

        • Average_Joe56

          Hello Pot…what color is your kettle?

          “Bob666 > Samurai
          Oh Geisha Boy,”

          Open mouth, switch feet…….

          • Bob666

            Yo Average,
            How is your Kettle?

            We could get into this, but what is the point?

          • Average_Joe56

            How are those feet tasting? Did you get a side order of Toe Jam with your order?

          • Bob666

            Well Average,
            My feet are just fine. “Toe Jam” is obviously your speed. based on the many “hostile” comments that I have seen make, Your feet must be very tender based on the time both of them spend in your mouth.

            In fact Joe, both of your feet are in your mouth so often, I am surprised that you have a leg to stand on………

          • Average_Joe56

            That’s nice, you have an opinion. Of course your opinion is the only thing that you bring to the conversation. Take your opinion and $5…have a cup of coffee.

            “based on the many “hostile” comments that I have seen (sic) make”
            Sorry, I don’t pull any punches. If you are looking for politically correct, you’ve come to the wrong person… I call a spade…a spade….You sir…are an uniformed, low information consumer…and unfortunately for the rest of us, you are allowed to vote…and breed….May God have mercy on your offspring……
            I remain,
            Unapologetically Opinionated.

          • Bob666

            Well Joe-You are so very average.

            “You sir…are an uniformed, low information consumer…and unfortunately for the rest of us, you are allowed to vote…and breed….May God have mercy on your offspring”

            Now that was funny. the sad thing about it is joe; the exact same thing could be said about you with no less accuracy.

            I do vote in every election, Anyone who knows me would tell you that I am far politically correct (outside of business) and uninformed, no, far from it.

            As far as my offspring, all have grown and developed into happy productive adults except for the one in high-school and she is doing quite well.

            I will take your opinion and $1.00 and get a good cup of coffee and McDonald’s.

          • Average_Joe56

            Boob says…..
            nothing…as usual…..
            troll! (yes boob…I called you a troll) l…deal with it…troll…

          • Bob666

            Yo So Average,

            “Boob”?

            So average.

          • speedle24

            I’m curious Bob. Exactly what is it that you are “informed of”? You know Diogenes was looking for an honest man, and i am looking for a liberal with salient facts. Could it be that I have found him?

          • Bob666

            Well Speedle,
            I believe that you are going to have to keep looking, but good luck to you in your quest for truth and liberals.

          • JeffH

            666, I think you know exactly what the point was that Joe correctly made.
            (hint – you’re a hypocrit)

          • Bob666

            Wowo Jeffery,
            you do seem to be consumed with old Bob666. My wife is right, I could make you jump out a window by just looking at you.

            Hypocrite-you wrote the book on that one.

          • JeffH

            Consumed with old Bob666?

            Hardly! I’m not the one running around at the Doral with his Blackberry, accusing others of spending all of their time here on PLD or showing my wife what goes on at this or any other website…and you say I must be consumed with you? You’re so full of yourself and most certainly don’t deserve that much credit.

            Your wife is either as ignorant as you are or you have been deceptive and haven’t shown her everything that’s said in print on this blog.

            I’d like to think it’s the latter, otherwise she would be truly embarrased for you.

          • Bob666

            Oh Jeffery, is it that time of the month again???

            Go kill something and post to us in the morning.

      • JeffH

        Almost every day for 666…even trolls this website while playing golf at the “Doral”…and he even shares this blog from his Blackberry with his OB/GYN golf buddie on the golf course.
        They both think most of us are a bunch of nut cases. Well, as I’ve been told, the OB/GYN only says that when 666 shares through his Blackberry on the golf course at the “Doral”.
        Go figure?

        • Bob666

          No Jeffery,
          The nut case opinion was exclusive to you.

          • JeffH

            Only in your delusional little progressive mind 666.

            I also noticed that you did not deny any other piece of my comment 666…including your trolling.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,
            There really was nothing to acknowledge or deny.

            Just like to progressive comment, I’m about as progressive as you are gay-not that there would be anything wrong with that.

          • JeffH

            Well 666, whether you like it or not, acknowledge or deny, you are a progressive and a troll.

          • Bob666

            So you are Gay?

            As I said, I so live for your acceptance :>

      • WTS/JAY

        I see you have correctly identified Boob666. Good for you, David. But what exactly, is a usenet-troll? Well, i’m glad you asked, David.

        The Usenet troll (Trollicus useneticus bloodyirritatingus) is an evil mental parasite found in all areas of Usenet, where it preys upon the brains of lusers (Homo stultissimus).Most clueful people avoid these creatures, since Usenet trolls know no fear and attack unceasingly, demanding responses from their prey.

        Usenet trolls are immune to flames (Flammae useneticae), which is unfortunate, as most will try to attack them with these first. In fact, when a troll is attacked flames, it will actually be able to use these flames to create more, which it will hurl back at its unfortunate attacker. Long-lived trolls may be able to render an entire newsgroup uninhabitable with all the flames it creates.

        The only form of attack a troll has is its ability to incite responses, which it needs to feed from; hence, the best way to defend yourself against a troll is simply to ignore it. Deprived of nourishment, it will soon starve.

        Ancient legends (found in The Book of 1036) hint that a
        Usenet troll may be vulnerable to the Spell of Cancellation,
        but this powerful incantation would have to be applied swiftly after the troll’s birth; once engaged in battle, few survive unscathed. -Alistair Young

        Statistics for the Usenet Troll:

        Climate/Terrain: Any Usenet
        newsgroup

        Frequency: Common

        Organization: Thread

        Activity cycle: Any

        Diet: Lusers(see definition)

        Intelligence: Low (3-5)

        Treasure: None

        Alignment: Chaotic evil
        (neutral)

        No. Appearing: 1

        Armour Class: n/a

        Movement: ‘c’

        Hit Dice: 100

        THAC0: n/a

        No. of Attacks: n/a

        Damage/Attack: n/a

        Special Attacks: See
        above

        Special Defences: See
        above

        Magic Resistance: 100%

        Size: Exists as mental force
        only

        Morale: Elite (14)

        XP Value: 1,800

        • Bob666

          Hello Jay,
          Are you concerned about competition in the trolling arena? You do spend a great deal more time here.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Why do you repeat yourself? Here is some news about the SCOTUS.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/judge-blasts-speech-limits-at-supreme-court-building/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The reason that Christianity is the best friend of government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd President of the U. S.
            Founding father
            Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            Why do you?

    • Cole Johnson

      bill maher is about as funny as stepping in dog poop barefoot! never mind he is a lying troll! He is also armed with armed body guards! such hypocrites running their mouths!

      • Bob666

        Well Cole,
        I would say that Maher has found a way to make a bunch of money doing his routine. You may not like him or even find humor in his material, but you can’t compare Ben to him-the difference between night and day.

        Maher has been successful, Ben is on this web site.

        • Cole Johnson

          I can’t compare? what a control freak you are! I can compare maher to dog poop if I so choose! and they seem pretty damn close when i do compare them! and if you think money is more important than truth, you are truly a bought and paid for fool! now go try and tell someone else what they can and can not do who believes your pathetic views!

          • Bob666

            Wow Cole,

            “You are truly a bought and paid for fool! now go try and tell someone else what they can and can not do who believes your pathetic views”!

            You don’t deal well with people that you disagree with do you?

            No one has “bought and paid for” me Cole. I am just a person with a different opinion. I’m mature enough to deal with yours even If I don’t agree with it.

            One day, you might show such maturity.

          • speedle24

            Of course you are Bob. Actually you are an opinion, and like ______s – well you know, everyone should have one.

          • Bob666

            Good for you Speedle, keep yours clean and wash you’re hands when you are done!

          • Frank Kahn

            another childish 3rd grade playground comeback.

            I know you are but what am I?

          • Bob666

            Hi Frank,
            I don’t know-what are you?

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… .We should know that people have the right to express their opinions. We know that little bush was an idiot who caused us loads of financial problems, plus many american lives with his immoral invasion of Iraq. And we know that Mitt Romney was so totally owned by the far Right, through no-way-out pledges like over 270 GOP in Congress, he never would render his own decisions if elected, instead he would make decisions on what he would be told. So we should remember that Cole Johnson has the right to talk his poop as much as he wants, The US Constitution says so, :-).

          • Bob666

            Very true Mac, very true.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            But you are wanting that the Constitution would go away and you would be the one with others no unlike yourself that would only be allowed to talk.

            The idea is to let you blather and disclose what you really are, just plain stupid.

          • macgyver1948

            Hey Nadzi…. Who are you saying this to? The email I got from Personal Liberty Digest says you are saying it to me. If you are saying it to me I see you are one of those on the Far Right who has been so dammed programmed to think they have the ability to tell others what they “really” mean and believe and think.

            If you followed my comments you would see I very much love and believe in the US Constitution but what you are doing is very NAZI or Commie of you. Do you really have the ability to read people’s minds and know what they really mean or are you just told to talk this way to those who do not agree with you? If you believe you have those abilities you are a programmed dummy for the Far Right so I understand the level of ethics in your comment. :-). See, it is really easy to mis-label people if you do not really know what they mean.

          • Frank Kahn

            Wrong, you show extreme childish behavior. Of course, in your childish mind, you are incapable of seeing the 3rd grade mentality of name calling that you engage in.

          • Bob666

            Hi Again Frank,
            You are correct in the fact there is too much name calling here, but maybe you should direct your comments elsewhere.

        • Frank Kahn

          Bill is a lying crybaby piece of crap, and ben is trying to help fight the insane BS of you liberal idiots.

          • Bob666

            Sorry Frank,
            Never said I liked Bill. Only said that he was successful in his game. Ben has been trying to emulate Bill here and it does not work.

          • Frank Kahn

            Doing political satire does not mean that a person is trying to emulate Bill Maher.

          • Bob666

            Well Frank,
            On that You are partially correct, but Ben does try to emulate Bill in the style. The only differance is the political content and that Ben Needs a laugh track.

          • Frank Kahn

            The “style” has been, and is, used by others, that still does not mean it is emulating Bill. He needs to use a laugh track because the piece is produced without an audience. If we were invited to the taping no laugh track would be necessary. Many shows use laugh tracks to enhance perceived audience response, as well as prompters that indicate when an audience should laugh or applaud. These may be being used for the Bill Maher show.

          • Bob666

            Well Frank,
            I disagree with you on the laugh track for Bill as I have seen Bill on tour and and see an audience on his shows.

            Yes, many shows use them and I dislike them where I find the content funny as well.

          • Frank Kahn

            Maybe, I misled you, it was not a laugh track that I was suggesting was used, it was the other two items.

            As far as audience participation, I have seen a news video of a political rally for Bill Clinton that showed how everyone liked him. They all clapped and cheered at his speech. I also know that the audience was selected, to allow only Clinton supporters. I ran into the road block, where we were questioned, and since I was not a Clinton supporter, I was not allowed to get near the rally. The perception, from the news video, was false and faked by manipulation.

            The adoring reaction from live crowds at a Bill Maher event might be due to the fact that only brain dead, liberal, Bill worshipers are present. The same might be true of the show, only liberal Bill Maher followers are present, making the audience response predictable.

          • Bob666

            Yo Frank,
            You are correct on the political rallies and the same thing was done under “W”. Regardless of party-it is nothing more than mass marketing by politics and that is one of the many symptoms of what is wrong in out society today.

            As far as Maher goes, I watch him on occasion just as I listen to Rush on occasion. I don’t always agree with them-but both make some good points.

            IMHO, there worse thing that anyone can do is to limit the sources of information you get-that is a recipe for failure.

          • Frank Kahn

            Yes, restricting your source of information to things that only match and support your personal opinion is bad. I am not sure if it is the worst though. Many people will investigate other sources but refuse to see the validity in them. If good, qualified and supportable research is done on an issue, it should be integrated into your decision making process. Failure to do this occurs on all sides of every issue, but I find it more prevalent with liberals and their agendas. It is possible that my opinion of liberals is being tilted by the abundance of radical liberalism that is so prevalent today. You tend to hear more from the radical fringe than you do the moderates on either side.

          • Bob666

            Yo Frank,
            As a guy in the middle, I find both sides are guilty. As my mother told me as a child-good will always prevail. What I tend to find amusing is the use of polls and who presents them. Just like the news on TV (a long time ago), you felt that you could trust them and today, they are skewed to match the agenda of the organization (right or left) that presents them.

            Have to go Frank-Wife and kids are putting together dinner for fathers day.

            Something to chew on Frank-notice how this was a civil dialog and we did not call each other names?

          • vicki

            Happy Fathers Day Bob.

          • Bob666

            Yo Vicki-Thanks!
            the best job I ever had and the one in which has provides the greatest joy.

        • vicki

          Maher has been successful, Ben is on this web site.

          False premise that Ben is not successful.

          • WTS/JAY

            Btw, BM doesn’t write any of his own material. All the material is pre-written for him. BM only needs to read the “teleprompter”, like the pigmy in the out-house. He’s simply a delivery-system; or a “tool”!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! Very funny and truthful fellow patriot. Here is an article showing the doubt of Syria using “specials.”
            http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/06/14/194016/chemical-weapons-experts-still.html#.UbzGX-sXj-Y
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.”
            John F. Kennedy
            President of the U. S.
            Smart enough not to be a Mason

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      If you don’t like what he is saying, then why do you come here? Never bring anything to the table and always stepping on yourself. Here is soemthing about Obama bin Laden, queers, and 3rd graders.
      http://www.weaselzippers.us/2013/06/14/obama-introduced-at-white-house-lgbt-event-by-third-graders/
      I guess this pretender has no honor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “It appears to me the eternal Son of God is operating powerfully against the British nation.”
      John Adams
      2nd President of the U. S.
      Founding father
      Devout Christian

      • Bob666

        Oh Geisha Boy,
        Just like with you, I am hoping that he will make an intelligent comment one day. I’m pulling for you Sammy! it might happen one day and we will recognize you for it when it happens!

        Col. R. S. “Sam” McLaughlin
        Founder of the McLaughlin Carriage Co. which later became General Motors of Canada. Cedar Lodge No. 270, Oshawa, Ontario. Grand Steward, 75 year member in the craft. Royal Arch, Knight Templar, President of Oshawa Shrine Club

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Always the personal attack. I think you need to be looking in the mirror on that comment. Notice how I have 11 up arrows and you have “0”? Quit posting the Mason stuff. No one cares about that and is not part of the subject at hand. BTW, why haven’t you answered my question about Forrest, and the founders of the KKK being masons? Come on! Be a man, be a man, be a real man. Why don’t you go somewhere else? We don’t need some bully here. Must be the first symptoms of alzheimers setting in. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “A patriot must be a religious man.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          3rd President of the U. S.
          Founding father
          Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            Geisha Boy-A ‘measured’ response to your personal attack. another example of your double standard?

            James Monroe,
            5th President of the USA.
            Williamsburg Lodge No. 6, Williamsburg, Virginia.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • WTS/JAY

            Watch out, Samurai. I think Boob666’s got a thing for Geisha-boys.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            He says he is married, but we know that is just a smokescreen. We all know he is coming out of the closet. Here is something about Obama bin Laden and Syria.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/06/mr-obamas-war/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It is impossible to rightly rule the world without God and the Bible.”
            George Washington
            1st President of the U. S.
            Commander of the Continental Armies
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Yo Jay,
            Let us stop this before you try to spin it like everything else that you post. Samurai, AKA Geisha boy is the one who hears muffled male voice from his underwear. Those are his warped fantasies and they belong to no one else.

        • Frank Kahn

          Maybe he will feel a need to accommodate you when you actually say something of value.

          And what is this BS drivel about sam mclaughlin. Nobody gives a crap about some idiot in canada

          • Bob666

            You don’t that is for sure.

    • ONTIME

      So you find demeaning is a source of humor…are you a sadist too?

      • Bob666

        OnTime,

        “So you find demeaning is a source of humor…are you a sadist too”?

        Are you referring to Bill or Ben? both are equally guilty.

    • WTS/JAY
      • Bob666

        and the point would be………

        • Frank Kahn

          Just because you are obviously brain dead, the point is that Bill Maher is an idiot that hasnt got a clue about anything.

          • Bob666

            Well Franks-
            he has a following and people who pay to watch him on HBO-does Ben?

          • Frank Kahn

            And Honey boo boo has a show on TLC, does that make her a better comedian than Ben?

          • Bob666

            You know Frank,
            I don’t have cable, but as much as I have heard about Honey Boo-Boo, I can’t tell you for sure, but I would bet that Honey Boo Boo is no less funny or intelligent.

            My point is; I have been watching Bill for years back when he was on network TV. His style is his own and I don’t always agree with him-but there are times when he nails it.

            Ben needs to find his own style as what ever he does now does not work. He and WAR are the two weak links on this site. I very much enjoy most of the work by other commentators.

            As far as content goes Frank, I watch many different people. I don’t have to agree with your politics to agree with one of your post or comments. But if you take a shot at me, I will come back at you. it is all in the way you treat people.

          • Frank Kahn

            Actually, I was taking a shot at the fact that you failed to get the point of the link. It showed an arrogant, piss on you, attitude that you use constantly.

            You base reality on your opinion of things, then you impose that reality on others. Bill Maher is a pathetic liberal hack, in my opinion, and he has never “nailed it”, in any show that I have seen. Ben uses current events to satirize the current administration in an amusing manner. The fact that you don’t agree with the truth in his satire is not Ben’s fault.

            I also have some issues with WAR, he tends to push his own personal agenda as well as trying to sell his book. He also tends to lean too heavy on his being a classmate of Obama at Columbia. These things, however, do not diminish the facts, that are buried in his pieces, you just need to filter out the fluff.

            As to content, when it comes to pushing liberal agendas, that are both stupid, and often unconstitutional, I have to disagree with you. Political ideologies play heavily in Bill’s ranting, so I cannot agree with any of his pissing on conservatives. You are right, though, it is in how you treat people. I treat stupidity with disdain, you treat conservatives as ignorant pieces of crap. Which treatment is worse? I don’t know, but I do know that your attitude towards conservatives is radical and therefor largely undeserving.

          • WTS/JAY

            Again Frank, don’t you ever get tired of always being right? (-:

          • JeffH

            I’ll second that!

            COLORADO students forced to recite Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic. One nation under Allah?
            http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/01/30/colorado-students-forced-to-recite-pledge-of-allegiance-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, i saw that, JeffH. It seems that the “muslim-menace” is giving the “homosexual-lobby” a run for their money. Who will emerge victorious?

          • JeffH

            JIHAWG AMMO – Jihawg Ammo is certified “Haraam” or unclean. According to the belief system of the radical Islamist becoming “unclean” during Jihad will prevent their attaining entrance into heaven. Jihawg Ammo is a natural deterrent to radical and suicidal acts of violence.

            Our Porcine Coating (Pattern Pending) is infused with the highest quality pork product made right here in America. Jihawg Ammo is produced in the great state of Idaho.

            We at Jihawg Ammo hope you will stock up on Jihawg as a natural deterrent to the ever growing threat of radical Islam and Sharia Law. We, however, stress that the nullifying principle of our product is only effective if you are attacked by an Islamist in Jihad. Otherwise, our ammo functions just like any other ammunition so we obviously insist upon defensive use of our ammo only-not offensive.

            http://jihawg.com/ammunition

          • WTS/JAY

            Something else we should consider, JeffH. Building an army of attack-swine. Raised and trained to attack…? As well, instead of paint, in paint-ball-guns, we fill the balls with liquid pig-fat. Strictly for defensive use, of course!

          • JeffH

            I like your thinking…attack-swine, swine-ball guns…

    • macgyver1948

      Hi Bob… and Maher is generally factually correct and not just a stand up comic with a phony laugh track. After all, Ben is from the “GREAT WHITE SOUTH”. What does that mean in terms of Liberty for all?

      • Bob666

        Yo Mac.
        Ben will never rise above PLD.

  • olaler

    Nazis had to have good comedians to help them forget the “stress” of their work..

  • WTS/JAY

    Islamic Supremacist Nominated as UC Student Regent…

    Sadia Saifuddin, supporter of the jihad against Israel and member of several Islamic supremacist groups with links to jihad terror.

    A UC Berkeley senior who is a venomous supporter of the jihad against Israel and member of several Islamic supremacist groups with links to jihad terror has been nominated to become the University of California student regent for the 2014-15 academic year.

    The student regent participates in a board that sets policies for the entire University of California system, which consists of ten campuses throughout the state. Sadia Saifuddin is expected to be confirmed as student regent by the full Board of Regents next month.

    The hijabbed Saifuddin would be the first Muslim student regent. “My faith,” she explained, “is a big part of my life. What I love the most about Islam is that it preaches tolerance and love, which is the reason that I have close friends and networks outside of the Muslim community as well.”

    Yet Saifuddin’s record at UC-Berkeley is hardly one of tolerance and love. She co-sponsored a BDS resolution in the Berkeley student Senate, calling on the entire University of California system to divest companies that do business with Israel, based on the spurious premise that Israel is “occupying” Palestinian territory.

    Saifuddin, a member of both Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and the Muslim Students Association (MSA), also spearheaded “A Resolution Condemning Islamophobic Hate Speech at the University of California,” which the student Senate passed unanimously. Saifuddin herself wrote the resolution, which claimed that “since September 11, 2001, Islamophobia has become the latest ‘hazing’ technique across the United States and has created a chilling effect for Muslims, Arabs, and South Asians in their communities, work-environments, and campuses,” and that “according to a Gallup Study, 60% of of [sic] Muslim Americans say that Muslims face prejudice from Americans.”

    http://cpnagasaki.wordpress.com/?p=12049&preview=true

    • ridge runner

      Who should be surprised of any gathering of freaks in Kaliifruitcake land. Muslims are in grained with the idea of hating anything and any one who isn’t a scourge on life. For any female that beleives in worshipping a phyco pedophilepuke who beleives females need beating and the whole family can be treated as a peice of dog crap, can not be very smart.

    • ONTIME

      It’s not what the cult islams say it’s what they do……..well, they say a lot of dingbat stuff too….

  • Motov

    Funny as usual,… keep ‘em coming.

  • WTS/JAY

    Good morning, students. Today I am going to outline an exciting new aspect of theoretical physics. It concerns the behaviour of particles when interacting with Neusgroupinos: also called TANTRUM MECHANICS. This is CLIQUE theory.

    The particle in question is officially called the T+ particle, but is known colloquially as the Troll.

    Trolls often come in bonded pairs, the troll and the anti-troll. These pairs behave oddly: sometimes reinforcing one another, sometimes cancelling each other out.

    Occasionally a troll loses its anti-troll partner and can then behave quite unpredictably, according to the rules of chaos: firing off random quarks (known as “posts”) in an attempt to bond with a new anti-troll. The existence of trolls was first proved by Hans Akrosstheocean in his famous “double-prat experiment”, or the “experiment with two morons”.

    Trolls, whether bonded to anti-trolls or not, also interact with neusgroupinos. Neusgroupinos are stable hadrons with a tendency to resist interaction with trolls. As far as the troll is concerned, this resistance comes about through the neusgroupino’s outer shell, or CLIQUE (I will explain the etymology of this term later). CLIQUEs are generally impervious to trolls, unless the troll has a particular “spin” that conforms to the already-existing structure of the neusgroupino. Most trolls possess either “top” or “bottom” spin as well as other “strange” or “charmed” characteristics. For instance, a given neusgroupino may interact with “charmed, bottom” trolls, but not “strange, top” ones.

    If a CLIQUE resists interaction with the troll, this can again cause unpredictable activity. The troll may fire off quark/posts in an attempt to break down the integrity of the neusgropino. These bursts of activity do not last long. Eventually, the troll decays, although many are more persistent than others.

    However, I have not yet touched upon the most interesting part of this theory at all, the element that reveals the central mystery of Tantrum Mechanics. It is this: _the CLIQUE only exists from the “perspective” of the troll_. From within the neusgroupino, particles are free to come and go. Indeed, the “outer shell”, the perceived CLIQUE, is not a unified, integral and impervious entity at all. Many particles are quite free to interact with the neusgroupino, regardless of spin, as long as they do not take on the specific characteristics of the troll. It is impossible to state with certainty whether or not a given particle internal to the neusgroupino is in this outer shell at any given time or not. This is known as _Wilkinson’s Uncertainty Principle_.

    Hence the derivation of the term CLIQUE: an acronym for CLearly Imaginary QUantum Entity. -From: DHowe@hawkswing (Dave Howe)

    Thank you. Any questions?

    Troll, or Boob666: Yes, what’s the capital of Chad?

    Answer: Ndjamena. Next?

    Troll, or Boob666: Couldn’t you find a more intelligent group to which to post this?

    Answer: No, this is the best one I know.

    Troll, or Boob666: Don’t you think this post displays a quite sickening mixture of immaturity and erudition, not to mention breathtaking self-indulgence?

    Answer: Well, that’s entirely subjective, isn’t it? Make your own mind up, after all, it’s a free country.

    • Bob666

      Well Jay,
      that was kind of funny-I believe that you are concerned about trolling competition. You do spend way to much time here..

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        And you don’t? Here is an article shwoing Sarah Palin taking on Bill Maher.
        http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/13/sarah-palin-calls-out-bill-maher-i-hope-someone-flattens-your-lilly-wh
        Go get him Sarah! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “I observe in the Virginia Constitution an abridgement of a right I do not approve. It is the incapacitation pf a clergyman from being elected.”
        Thomas Jefferson
        3rd President of the U. S.
        Founding father
        Orthodox Christian

        • Bob666

          Oh Geisha Boy

          Sara Palin-that shows desperation!

          Audie Murphy,
          American soldier and actor. Most decorated US soldier in WW II. 32 Deg. AASR, KCCH, Dallas, Texas.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, voting for Hitlery Clinton shows desperation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The Americans are the first people whom Heaven has favored with an opportunity of deliberating upon and choosing the forms of government under which they should live.”
            John Jay
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Geisha Boy,

            “Actually, voting for Hitlery Clinton shows desperation”

            You do know that 2016 is three years away?

            George E. Pickett,
            Major General CSA. Developed the Pickett fence, defeated at Gettysburg.
            Dove Lodge No. 51, Virginia.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Let’s see if she survives, politically, from the Benghazi scandal, among others. If you want Hitlery, then you are not a good American. Pickett? Your information is true, but he being a Mason is irrelevent. Here is something that is sponsored by Obama bin Laden and his adminiostration. Once again violating our God-given rights as written in the 2nd Amendment.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11304/police-confiscate-antique-guns-without-charges-or-arrest/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “I do declare to the whole world that we believe the Scriptures to contain a declaration of the mind and will of God in and to those ages in which they were written; being given forth by the Holy Ghost moving in the hearts of holy men of God; that they ought also to be read, believed, and fulfilled in our day; being used for reproof and instruction, that the man of God may be perfect. They are a declaration and testimony of heavenly things themselves, and, as such, we carry a high respect for them. We accept them as the words of God Himself.”
            William Penn
            Treatise of the religion of the Quakers
            Page 355
            Founder of Pennsylvania
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy,
            I read this and I can’t stop laughing!
            “Let’s see if she survives, politically, from the Benghazi scandal, among others. If you want Hitlery, then you are not a good American”.
            Listen up nit-wit, I did not vote for Obama, but we would be far better off today if Hillary had won in 2008 and that 5% would have been 6% to 8%.

            As for Pickett, but he being a Mason is irrelevant-for what? maybe he would have built a better fence if he went to your church and was not a Mason? Really Sammy? Really? there is a point to that statement? and you know this how?

            You are so consumed with being right-you forgot what the argument was about! That is Very-Very Sad!

            Robert E Peary,
            American explorer. First to reach the North Pole. Kane Lodge No. 454, New York City.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! That was funny and truthful, fellow patriot! Here is an article that shows Obama bin Laden is guilty of treason.
      http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/06/obamas-egyptian-buddies-prove-hes-guilty-of-high-treason/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “So help me God!”
      George Washington
      1st President of the U. S.
      Commander of the Continental Armies
      Founding father
      Devout Christian

      • macgyver1948

        Hi Samurai…. You always say something like this. What does it say to us Americans who are not Christian, do we not have rights or Freedom Of Religion? The Founders would disagree with you in American concept.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Did I say there is no God-given right of freedom of religion? I don’t remember posting it. Why are you so worried anyway, since the Christians and Jews worship the same God, the first Christians were Jews, and Jesus (the Son of God and the basis for Christianity) was a Jew? Here is something that may interest you.
          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/05/pamela-geller-banned-by-a-canadian-synagogue/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “I concur in considering the moral precepts of Jesus as more pure, correct, and sublime then those of ancient philosophers.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          3rd President of the U. S.
          Founding father
          Orthodox Christian

          • WTS/JAY

            Good answer, Samurai!!! He was obviously trying to bait you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thanks and keep up the good fight, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “He who has the answer and doesn’t know it is just as lost as he who never knew.”
            Samurai

  • WTS/JAY

    Coming to See ‘the Jesus’: Racist Farrakhan Embraced by Alabama Democrats…

    The results are in. Despite criticism, the inclusion of Louis Farrakhan with Alabama Democrats on a tour to rally support for federal preclearance obligations of the Voting Rights Act brought warm accolades from those at the rally. TheBirmingham News reports:

    http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/06/15/coming-to-see-the-jesus-racist-farrakhan-embraced-by-alabama-democrats/

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      They are letting that nutjob do something like this? If this were tha army, I would ask them a few questions.
      What is your major malfunction?
      Didn’t mommy and daddy teach you better than that?
      Do you use your brain to think with or sit on?
      Many others I could think of, but so little time. Here are some articles showing what Obama bin Laden, his administration, McCain, Graham, and others want to do in Syria.
      http://www.thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/305529-syrian-conundrum-shifts-to-congress
      http://www.humanevents.com/2013/06/14/u-s-to-enter-syrian-civil-war/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd President of the U. S.
      Founding father
      Orthodox Christian

  • WTS/JAY

    SYRIA: OBAMA-BACKED JIHADISTS MASSACRE CHRISTIAN VILLAGE POPULATION

    For close to a year I have been warning about the genocide of Christians and Alawites if the jihadists (“rebels”) came to power. Massive. Monstrous. There are two million Christians in Syria. Yet another Islamic genocide that will be ignored, scrubbed, sanctioned.

    This is not proprietary information. Obama knows.

    Obama-backed Syrian jihadists massacre Christian village population Jihadwatch

    How great it is that the U.S. is going to be aiding these jihadists. Syria will be cleansed of Christians in no time, and peace will ensue.

    “Syria Militants Massacre Christian Village Population (Graphic Images),” from Syria Report, June 12 (thanks to Joel):

    More details of a massacre in Homs late last month have emerged following the global outcry of a massacre in Deir el-Zour yesterday.

    The massacre, carried out by Free Syrian Army militants reportedly targeted men, women and children in the Christian village of al-Duwayr/Douar close to the city of Homs and the border with Lebanon. The incident received little media attention, having occurred at the same time as thousands of Syrian troops converged on the insurgent-occupied town of al-Qusayr.

    According to sources, around 350 heavily armed militants entered the village, broke into homes and assembled residents in the main square of the village where they were executed. The final death toll is not known but photos show severe damage to property in the village.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/syria-obama-backed-jihadists-massacre-christian-village-population.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      If I could go to Syria, I would take some veterans I know and we would defend the Christians against these pieces of crap. Here is a video that speaks the truth about islam, a cult and not a religion.
      http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/06/egyptian-former-muslim-the-goal-of-islam-is-to-conquer-the-world/
      Here is an article that shows a high school reciting the Pledge of Allegience in Arabic. Making it one nation under allah. Colorado is a libturd run state.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/us-high-school-recites-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/
      Here is some insight into islam.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/what-you-need-to-know-about-islam-part-1/
      I’ll post other parts as they come. Keep up the good fight fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “To the free and universal reading of the Bible in that age, men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty. The Bible is a book which teaches man his own individual responsibility, his own dignity, and his equality with his own fellow man.”
      Daniel Webster
      American statesman
      Devout Christian

      • Bob666

        Geisha Boy,

        You are voting for yourself-now that is funny!!!!!!!!!

        Alexander McNair
        First Govenor of the State of Missouri, member of Herman Lodge #28, St. Charles, Missouri later known as Herman Lodge #3 after the formation of the Grand Lodge of Missouri.

        • JeffH

          Nothing wrong with that.
          You vote for all of the liberals and progressives.

          • Bob666

            No Jeffery,
            i vote for people who make rational points-sometimes you don’t agree with them.

          • Bob666

            Wow Ridge,
            That was deep-do you say that in front of a mirror to impress yourself?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. Yo Bob, at least I have people, other than myself, giving me arrow up points, so what is your excuse? People tend to agree with you when you are telling the truth or are making sense. Sheesh! How long did it take for your litte, dense, libturd mind to come up with that response? Did it take you all night? I sure am glad that Sook Young says that she is praying for you, as well as the other 5th columners on this site. Here are some articles about Israel and Syria.
            http://www.israeltoday.co.il/Default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=23907
            http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23619/Default.aspx?article=related_stories
            http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23649/Default.aspx?article=related_stories
            There are more, but I think you get the gist of what these articles are saying. If Assad loses, Syria will attack Israel. If this happens, will we help defend Israel as we are supposed to, or will we betray them as Obama bin Laden has continued to do till now? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It is in our lives and not our words that our religion must be read.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd President of the U. S.
            Founding father
            Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            Poor Geisha Boy,

            “Sheesh! How long did it take for your litte, dense, libturd mind to come up with that response”

            I hope Sook is praying for you-you have the male voices in your underwear-you did not have to tell as none of us asked.

            James E Oglethorpe,
            English politician and soldier. Founder of Savannah GA. First W. Master of King Solomon’s Lodge No. 1, Savannah, Georgia

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            Oh Geisha Boy,

            ” lack of intellectual content”

            That defines most of your post.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Bob, leave the thread as you are a bully and bring nothing to the table, except lies, rhetoric, hate, and innuendo. Here is something showing the real losers in Washington, D.C.
            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/06/judge-jeanine-pirro-the-real-losers-of-washington-dc/
            You are also a loser Bob. BTW, when are you going to answer my question as to why the Masons support the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, Segregation, etc.? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Whatever makes men good Christians, kames them good citizens.”
            Daniel Webster
            American statesman
            Devout Christian
            *You could learn something from this quote Bob, you coward.

          • Bob666

            Yo Geisha Boy,

            “Bob, leave the thread”

            How first amendment of you Sammy. Bully-no, Someone who does not backs down from a little tin Wanabe who uses the name of mystic warrior and claims to something that he is not-nor ever will be-Yes.

            I have sat back for the last two months and only responded to you, tried to be nice to you and have shown you a great deal more respect than you have shown me. “I will try to be more civil Bob”.

            No Little one-you don’t get to tell me or anyone else to leave. This is America-we try a little harder!

            And My personal favorite: “You are also a loser Bob. BTW, when are you going to answer my question as to why the Masons support the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, Segregation”

            There is no question to answer as it is simply not true. I am still waiting for you to prove any of this……….
            And BTW-I’m still waiting on you to tell me what “Lies” I have told, clocks ticking……………

            And we both know you can’t.

            BTW-You-Tube is not the holy grail of facts.

            James Knox Polk,
            11th President of the USA. Columbia Lodge No. 31, Columbia, Tennessee. Also a Royal Arch Mason.

          • WTS/JAY

            Please don’t feed the Troll, JeffH.

          • Bob666
          • WTS/JAY

            Unable to access. Link does not function…

          • Bob666

            I guess that we are in this together Jay
            http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Troll

          • JeffH

            Jay, he feeds himself. I just discovered through Disqus that 666 is trolling both you and I.

            Just click on your name and another window opens up…you’ll see “followers” with a number above it…click “followers” and you can see who is following your comments.

            Surprise, surprise…Bob666 pops up as a “follower” of both of us…and he claims he’s not a troll!

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes JeffH, the Troll is desperately looking for a host to feed off of. Without any responses, it should soon die or go somewhere else. (-:

      • WTS/JAY

        THE BIGGEST HOLOCAUST IN WORLD HISTORY

        Sectarianism, bigotry, and its horrible descendant, fanaticism, have long possessed this beautiful earth. They have filled the earth with violence, drenched it often and often with human blood, destroyed civilizations, and sent whole nations to despair. Had it not been for these horrible demons, human society would be far more advanced than it is now. -Swami Vivekananda (1893)

        With the invasion of India by Mahmud Ghazni about 100 A.D., began the Muslim invasions into the Indian subcontinent and they lasted for several centuries. The Muslim invasions continued even when the Muslims were ruling India, like the invasion of the Mongols during the reign of the Khiljis or the invasion of the Mughals in the early sixteenth Century when the Lodis were ruling Delhi. The last notable invasion of the Muslims from outside was the invasion of Nadir Shah in 1739, during which he unleashed a great horror on the native population.

        During these seven hundred years of Muslim invasions and their conquest and rule of India, the Hindus were the greatest sufferers. It is difficult to estimate the number of Hindus who lost their lives during these campaigns, the number of Hindus who lost their lives in the religious persecution perpetrated on the native population by the Muslim rulers or the number of Hindus who were forcibly converted to Islam.

        According to Prof. K.S. Lal, the author of the Growth of Muslim population in India, the Hindu population decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD, the year Mahmud Ghazni invaded India and 1525 AD, a year before the battle of Panipat.

        One can safely add another 20 million Hindus to this list to account for the number that were killed during the Mughal rule or the rule of the Muslim rulers in the Deccan plateau…

        Continue reading:
        http://www.hinduwebsite.com/history/holocaust.asp

      • WTS/JAY

        History of the Jihad against France (732 – Ongoing)

        This site brings you the history of the Islamic Jihad from its beginnings at Mecca in 620 C.E. up to 9/11, and the lessons it has for us in today’s challenging times. If we are to understand Islam, we need to understand the temperament of its founder Mohammed (PBUH*), the way victorious Muslims have treated the subject people, and above all the reasons for the victory of Islam.

        This site is dedicated to frank and fearless reporting and commenting on the Islamic Jihad.

        http://www.historyofjihad.org/france.html

      • WTS/JAY

        The Muslim Horde’s Easy Invasion of Iberia.
        by Robert C. Daniels

        http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/medieval/articles/muslimhorde.aspx

      • WTS/JAY

        ISLAMIC INVASION OF AMERICA: THE 20 POINT PLAN

        This sums up the Muslim Brotherhood project in America quite succinctly. On November 7, 2001, international law enforcement authorities and Western intelligence agencies discovered a twenty-year old document revealing a top-secret plan developed by the oldest Islamist organization with one of the most extensive terror networks in the world to launch a program of “cultural invasion” and eventual conquest of the West that virtually mirrors the tactics used by Islamists for more than two decades.

        Since that time information about this document, known in counterterrorism circles as “The Project”, and discussion regarding its content has been limited to the top-secret world of Western intelligence communities. Only through the work of an intrepid Swiss journalist, Sylvain Besson of Le Temps, and his book published in October 2005 in France, La conquête de l’Occident: Le projet secret des Islamistes (The Conquest of the West: The Islamists’ Secret Project), has information regarding The Project finally been made public. One Western official cited by Besson has described The Project as “a totalitarian ideology of infiltration which represents, in the end, the greatest danger for European societies.”

        Included in the documents seized during the raid of Nada’s Swiss villa was a 14-page plan written in Arabic and dated December 1, 1982, which outlines a 12-point strategy to “establish an Islamic government on earth” – identified as The Project. According to testimony given to Swiss authorities by Nada, the unsigned document was prepared by “Islamic researchers” associated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

        http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/07/islamic-invasion-of-america-the-20-point-plan.html

  • Oliver_K_Manuel

    Consensus government science is a form of government tyranny:

    To hide the source of energy that destroyed Hiroshima on 6 Aug 1945, the UN was formed on 24 Oct 1945 and scientists were given these options: Agree with these models or lose government funding:

    1. BBM (Big Bang Model) of hydrogen creation at the birth of the universe,
    2. SSM (Standard Solar Model) of hydrogen-filled stars heated by H-fusion,
    3. AGW / AGC Models of Anthropologic Global Warming and / or Cooling,
    4. Models of neutron stars as dead nuclear embers of burned-out stars, and
    5. The BHM (Black Hole Model) for storing imaginary stellar end products.

    On this subject, I agree with the candidate for Lt. Governor in Virginia:

    http://www.jacksonforlg.com/the-speech-that-rocked-virginia/

    It is time to throw off all government tyranny !

    With deep regrets,
    – Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

    • KG

      Mr. Manuerl, with all due respect, you are a charlatan. Despite all of your study and intelligence, you cannot see that the religious right fascists that you support actually created much of what you call ‘evidence’ to manipulate people like you into thinking that the scientific community is ‘deceiving’ people about global warming to create a one world government. If you read that Bible of yours, you will see that global warming is actually one of the signs of G-d’s coming judgement. And like most of G-d’s judgements, Man manages to bring it about himself with no mystical means. I’m sorry if I burst your little intellectual bubble, but, even the best of us get deceived. Unless you are doing it on purpose. Then if that’s the case, screw you.

  • WTS/JAY

    Synthetic Police Are Coming: DARPA Engineering Autonomous Robots

    Because of the risks involved in rescue aid workers and human response teams, DARPA awarded Boston Dynamics, Inc. a $10.9 million contract to manufacture humanoid robots that are bi-pedal, built like humans and have a sensor head with on-board computing capabilities. Completion of the project is expected for August of 2014.

    These robots are being created to assist in excavation and rescue missions, according toDARPA . They could also be employed to evacuation operations during either man-made or natural disasters.

    Another of DARPA’s interests into robotics is the Avatar for the allocation of bi-pedal robots and essential super-soldiers and has devoted $7 million of its $2.8 billion 2012 budget to developing “interfaces and algorithms to enable a soldier to effectively partner with a semi-autonomous bi-pedal machine and allow it to act as the soldier’s surrogate.”

    These human-controlled robots will be strong enough to “clear a room” and “facilitate sentry control and combat causality recovery.” Yet these “terminators” would easily be the most effective weapon against civil unrest or radical revolutionaries that did not subscribe to the globalist agenda.

    http://www.occupycorporatism.com/synthetic-police-are-coming-darpa-engineering-autonomous-robots/

  • WTS/JAY

    ISLAMIC CLERIC WINS IRAN’S PRESIDENTIAL ‘ELECTION’

    A Muslim-cleric in charge of a nuclear arsenal. What could go wrong? He was Iran’s top nuclear negotiator while the mullahs continued to deceive the world and build a nuclear arsenal.

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/islamic-cleric-wins-irans-presidential-election.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

  • WTS/JAY

    I have never entertained the idea that Obama was a Muslim and always believed he was a socialist. But Obama’s behavior over the last four years regarding Islam has convinced me that Obama has a Socialist/Islamic centered world view – a combination that is not uncommon in many parts of the Muslim world.

    Having been a journalist in Egypt for six years in the’70s, I have witnessed socialism with an Islamic twist to be a popular political ideology, especially amongst Arab journalists and intellectuals. Socialism and even communism have managed to survive in the ruthless Islamic political system as an alternative to full-fledged Shariah. The two ideologies blended together in the Baath Party in Syria, Iraq and socialist regimes in Egypt and Yemen. One major difference between the two ideologies is that Islam uses Allah, while socialism uses atheism, to fight the God of Christianity. Free democracies such as the United States are alien to Islam and socialists because they regard government as a servant to the people and believe that human rights are from God and not from government or Shariah.

    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/the-consequences-of-obamas-love-of-islam/#mGi3u1Z8as8cOYok.99

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here are some articles dealing with freedom and the cult of islam.
      http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/are_you_willing_to_die_for_your_freedom.html
      http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/06/the_two_faces_of_islam.html
      Here the government isn’t supposed to have any money, due to sequester, but yet Obama bin Laden can send our troops to Syria? How many more wars is this pretender going to start or get us involved in? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd President of the U. S.
      Founding father
      Orthodox Christian

      • WTS/JAY

        Samurai: Here the government isn’t supposed to have any money, due to sequester, but yet Obama bin Laden can send our troops to Syria? How many more wars is this pretender going to start or get us involved in?

        Didn’t obama win the nobel peace prize?

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I thought they only gave it to him for being America’s first minority president. He sure didn’t earn that either. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “The true Christian is the true citizen.”
          Theodore Roosevelt
          26th President of the U. S.

          • WTS/JAY

            Samurai: He sure didn’t earn that either.

            After only 3 months in office? I think not!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sure didn’t. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

  • WTS/JAY

    Turkey Stakes Claim in America With $100 Million Mega-Mosque

    The building of this center takes Turkey’s “outreach” in America out of the realm of the subtle.

    The government of Turkey is building a 15-acre, $100 million mega-mosque in Lanham, Maryland. Turkey’s Prime Minister Erdogan visited the site on May 15 as part of his official visit to the U.S.. The state of Maryland was officially represented at the event by its Secretary of State John McDonough.

    The event was also attended by the leaders of two U.S. Muslim Brotherhood entities.

    The mega-mosque is called the Turkish American Culture and Civilization Center and, according to the Muslim Link, it “will likely become the largest and most striking examples of Islamic architecture in the western hemisphere” when it is finished in 2014.

    The Muslim Link explicitly says it is “a project of the government of Turkey.”

    http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/turkey-stakes-claim-america-100-million-mega-mosque

  • macgyver1948

    As usual funny jokes and a pretty good stand up. When it comes to who won an election I guess it depends on your definition of ‘win’. If getting the highest number of popular votes is within your definition of winning then we know. Who was it who had the most popular votes in 2000’s presidential election?

    http://members.verizon.net/vze3fs8i/air/whowon.html Just simple arithmetic, or is it math? I suppose with math you can juggle the arithmetic more easily and come up with the winner who was not really elected by the people. From there it just goes down hill but let’s not blame the guy with the lower vote count in 2000 who took the oval office, not won.He was in a fog after that for 8 years just doing what he was told.

    See Ben, I can tell jokes too but mine are more factual.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Really? Sure don’t sound like it. Here is some good news.
      http://www.thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/305791-gohmert-eric-holders-credibility-has-been-shot
      Here is something about Syria.
      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/11/syria-al-qaeda-connection/2075323/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      u need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot..
      “The Constitution on this hypothesis, is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the Judiciary, which they can twist and shape into any form they please.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd President of the U. S.
      Founding father
      Orthodox Christian

      • Bob666

        oh Geisha boy,
        pull your head out of your underwear.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Look out everyone! Bob has a thing for underware. Are you coming out of the closet Bob? Here is an article showing how Maxine Waters spilled the beans on Obama bin Laden’s spying.
          http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11280/democrat-unknowingly-revealed-scope-of-obamas-spying-database
          Here is one showing there perverted ways of thinking and living.
          http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11282/white-house-celebrates-lifestyle-of-abomination/
          I guess they haven’t read the Bible lately. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “I have tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”
          Alexander Hamilton
          His dying words.
          July 12, 1804
          Founding father
          Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Oh Babble Boy,

            Good try to deflect you you’re Don’t ask-Don’t tell experience of hearing “muffled Men’s voices in you’re underwear”

            I hope that you and Marcus Bachmannm can pray away you’re unnatural urges.

            John Joseph Pershing,
            American General.
            Lincoln Lodge No. 19, Lincoln Nebraska

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
            Samurai

          • Bob666

            Oh Poor Geisha Boy,
            You have come out of the closet and you can’t shut the door! It’s not about intellectual content-It’s about the fact that you are a spineless fool.

            There are no Samurai’s in Mensa.

            Norman Vincent Peale,
            American clergyman and author.
            Milwood Lodge No. 1062, Brooklyn, New York.

      • macgyver1948

        LOL… good news for whom? not those who deal in reality but it is one of your usual exaggerations as proof and backing. Good for you.

  • KG

    Just remember, you ‘law and order’ types wanted all of this surveillance. Now, you can see who’s “sinning” so as to put your G-d’s wrath upon them. Because if someone is actually enjoying their life, instead of walling in self-pity to appease some deity of sheepherders, you can get em.

    Did Bill mention the 2000 election? you know, the one the Republicans stole with a packed Supreme court? The one with the guy who’s responsible for the Internet in America? Oh yea, those ‘conservative christians’ really did our country a favor by allowing banks and insurance companies to rape the American people of it’s wealth.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Bush, baaaaa! 2000 election stolen, baaaaa! GOP, baaaaa! Sheesh! Do you sheeple ever stop with the lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hate? Here is a story about a Vietnam veteran and God.
      http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/god-holds-vietnam-vet-to-his-battlefield-promise/
      Here is one that the court got right.
      http://www.zionica.com/2013/06/14/court-slams-door-on-atheists-attack-on-public-prayer/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Almighty God, who has given us this good land for our heritage; We humbly beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry, sound learning, and pure manners.”
      Thomas Jefferson
      3rd President of the U. S.
      Founding father
      Orthodox Christian

      • KG

        Matthew 6:6

        King James Version (KJV)

        6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door,pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

        Sounds like YOU got it all wrong.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          It also says that if 2 or 3 come together in my name, I am there also. So are you sure you got it right? The verse you quoted was to tell people not to pray in public for people to see you, like the Pharases used to do. Need to understand what is being talked about before you post. Nice try though, but you failed! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
          Samurai

          • KG

            That’s right…….like the ‘Pharases used to do’. Or, like what modern “Christians” do today. Do you even read your Bible?

            Matthew 9
            King James Version (KJV)

            10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

            11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

            12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

            13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

            I guess you see yourself as a ‘righteous’ person, so Jesus really doesn’t need to waste His time with scum like you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. For someone who claims to be an atheist/agnostic you sure do read the Bible alot. Nothing wrong with that, for your darkened soul really needs the light of God and Jesus in it in a big way. Waste time with me? Have we been looking in the mirror? Jesus doesn’t consider anyone to be a waste of time, hypocrite. I just have one question. Since you said that Jesus came to call sinners to repentance, which is true, why haven’t you repented yet? Cat got your tongue? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Sometimes by looking back, you can see a clearer path to what lays ahead.”
            Samurai

          • KG

            Why you can read my heart, you must be Jesus!!!

            Matthew 9
            King James Version (KJV)

            9 And he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.

            2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.

            3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.

            4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?

            Do you do fortunes as well? How about Bar Mitzvahs?
            Oh, wait, you are probably one of those ‘christians’ that hate jews because they ‘killed Jesus??

          • JeffH

            Lucifarians don’t have hearts!

            Luciferianism constitutes the nucleus of the ruling class religion. While there are definitely political and economic rationales for elite criminality, Luciferianism can account for the longevity of many of the oligarchs’ projects. Many of the longest and most brutal human endeavors have been underpinned by some form of religious zealotry. The Crusades testify to this historical fact. Likewise, the power elite’s ongoing campaign to establish a socialist totalitarian global government has Luciferianism to thank for both its longevity and frequently violent character. In the mind of the modern oligarch, Luciferianism provides religious legitimacy for otherwise morally questionable plans.

            Luciferianism is the product of religious engineering, which sociologist William Sims Bainbridge defines as “the conscious, systematic, skilled creation of a new religion” (“New Religions, Science, and Secularization,” no pagination). In actuality, this is a tradition that even precedes Bainbridge. It has been the practice of Freemasonry for years. It was also the practice of Masonry’s religious and philosophical progenitors, the ancient pagan Mystery cults.

          • KG

            “fasten your seat belts, ladies and gentlemen – up ahead, your next stop the TWILIGHT ZONE. do-de-do-de……

            So, with your assessment of the ‘ruling class’, would you be willing to include people like the Bushes, Reagans, Nixons, Boners, Cantors, Rands etc?

            quote: Likewise, the power elite’s ongoing campaign to establish a socialist totalitarian global government has Luciferianism to thank for both its longevity and frequently violent character.

            So, leaders, elected by the people are somehow under some kind of spell? I think you are trying to get on my good side or are really deluded.

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: So, with your assessment of the ‘ruling class’, would you be willing to include people like the Bushes, Reagans, Nixons, Boners, Cantors, Rands etc?

            Absolutely! And i would include to the list of the “ruling-class”; Franky D. Roosevelt, B johnson, Jimmy the Peanut, Bill Clitoris, and of course, the biggest turd of them all, Osama Hussein Barack. There, now you got yourself a complete list, Kg.

          • KG

            I want to know, are you jealous of Bill and his cigar adventures?
            Ummm…FDR was reelected 4 times by vast majorities due to his immensely popular programs that are still here today.

            Lindon Johnson did this country a favor by destroying the spirit of the old south through Civil Rights
            Jimmy Carter was the most christian president before Mr. Obama.
            So, what’s your point?

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: I want to know, are you jealous of Bill and his cigar adventures?

            Yes, you got me, KG. I’m so jealous of the fact that Bill Clitoris is still considered a national-embarrassment to this day, and a man with zero character. Btw, do you identify yourself with Bill. And is that why you admire him so?

            KG: Ummm…FDR was reelected 4 times by vast majorities due to his immensely popular programs that are still here today.

            Not sure i would use the term “popular”.

            KG: Lindon Johnson did this country a favor by destroying the spirit of the old south through Civil Rights

            What is it that you have been smoking, KG? I think you’ve got your left and right mixed up. If i were you, i would take a history refresher-course.

            KG: Jimmy Carter was the most christian president before Mr. Obama.

            Jimmy Carter, like the pigmy in the out-house are both tools of the oligarchy. Christians? That would depend who you ask. And i really don’t think you are the person to ask.

            KG: So, what’s your point?

            Yours is a rather short attention-span, hey KG? No matter. A short attention-span seems to be a prerequisite and a must to qualify for admission into the party of sheep and simpletons.

          • KG

            In 1995, I joined the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electricians). I saw what the policies of Clinton did for America. I stayed busy the whole time he was in office, and I know why. One of the jobs that kept me working was retrofitting buildings for the ADA act. As well as helping to build several structures for the Government done by private contractors. His biggest sin, though, was NAFTA. However, he was forced into that by zealous republicans who wanted to destroy his presidency.

            Nixon resigned because he knew he was guilty. Clinton DIDNT resign because he knew he was innocent. Maybe not sexually innocent, but, that didn’t bother me as much as what the Republican controlled congress did in the middle of the night in 1999 – repealed the Glass Stegal act. That’s what caused 2008 to happen.

            No Democrat is bad enough for me to vote against, and no Republican is good enough for me to vote for.

          • JeffH

            “No Democrat is bad enough for me to vote against, and no Republican is good enough for me to vote for.”

            With limited mentality I guess if you’re stuck in that two party paradigm your choices would be limited.

            An informed intelligent voter just doesn’t choose party lines.

          • KG

            Last time I checked, the only two parties that actually got candidates in were either Democrat, or Republican – except for Vermont which has a Socialist for a senator.

            When ‘libertarians’ start to get elected, watch for the “brown shirts” to come out.

          • WTS/JAY

            The “brown shirts” are already here, KG. And the last time i checked, we have a Democrat in office.

          • JeffH

            DUH! Ever heard of a “write-in candidate”?

            FYI, there were 4 different political party candidates to choose from on the General election ballot as well as the choice of a “write-in-candidate” on some states ballots.

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: However, he was forced into that by zealous republicans who wanted to destroy his presidency.

            He was forced by zelous Republicans to pass NAFTA? So, according to your assertion, am i to assume that Clinton was forced to pass even the good-policies that you praise him for? If so, you should be thanking the zelous-Conservatives for your good fortunes during the Clinton administration. Don’t you think so?

            KG: Nixon resigned because he knew he was guilty. Clinton DIDNT resign because he knew he was innocent.

            He was found guilty of perjury. No big deal, right?

            KG: Maybe not sexually innocent, but, that didn’t bother me as much as what the Republican controlled congress did in the middle of the night in 1999 – repealed the Glass Stegal act. That’s what caused 2008 to happen.

            Gee, for someone who claims to be a champion of truth, you don’t seem to know much truth.

            The main cheerleader for the repeal was Phil Gramm, McCain’s chief economic advisor.

            But wait . . . as usual, the Democrats were eager to pile on to this reversal of New Deal regulatory progressivism — fully 38 of 45 Senate Democrats voted for the repeal (which passed 90-8), including some famous names commonly associated with “progressive” politics by the easily gulled: Dodd, Kennedy, Kerry, Reid, and Schumer. And, of course, there was the inevitable shout of “yea” from the ever-servile corporate factotum Joseph Biden, Barack Obama’s idea of a tribune of “change”–if by change one means erasing any lingering obstacle to corporate domination of the polity.

            This disgraceful bow to the banking industry, eagerly signed into law by Bill Clinton in 1999, bears a major share of responsibility for the current banking crisis. Here’s the complete roll call of shame:

            REPUBLICANS FOR (52): Abraham, Allard, Ashcroft, Bennett, Brownback, Bond, Bunning, Burns, Campbell, Chafee, Cochran, Collins, Coverdell, Craig, Crapo, DeWine, Domenici, Enzi, Frist, Gorton, Gramm (Tex.), Grams (Minn.), Grassley, Gregg, Hegel, Hatch, Helms, Hutchinson (Ark.), Hutchison (Tex.), Inhofe, Jeffords, Kyl, Lott, Lugar, Mack, McConnell, Murkowski, Nickles, Roberts, Roth, Santorum, Sessions, Smith (N.H.), Smith (Ore.), Snowe, Specter, Stevens, Thomas, Thompson, Thurmond, Voinovich and Warner.DEMOCRATS FOR (38): Akaka, Baucus, Bayh, Biden, Bingaman, Breaux, Byrd, Cleland, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Durbin, Edwards, Feinstein, Graham (Fla.), Hollings, Inouye, Johnson, Kennedy, Kerrey (Neb.), Kerry (Mass.), Kohl, Landrieu, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Lincoln, Moynihan, Murray, Reed (R.L), Reid (Nev.), Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer, Torricelli and Wyden.

            REPUBLICANS AGAINST(1): Shelby.

            DEMOCRATS AGAINST(7): Boxer, Bryan, Dorgan, Feingold, Harkin, Mikulski and Wellstone.

            NOT VOTING: 2 REPUBLICANS (2): Fitzgerald (voted present) and McCain.

            The House Democrats were no less enthusiastic in their endorsement of this invitation to plunder–the repeal passed there by a margin of 343-86, with the Donkey Party favoring the measure by a two-to-one margin, 138-69.

            KG: No Democrat is bad enough for me to vote against, and no Republican is good enough for me to vote for.

            Good for you, KG! Though both parties are one and the same.

          • KG

            The problem was everybody thought that the Businessmen would be honest enough to look out for the best interest of their customers:That they would take their fiduciary duty seriously enough not to jeopardize their positions. But, comes to find out, the “good christian business people” were screwing everybody. They didn’t care what the results would be except for their increasing income from origination fees. I mean, we trust our police officers to keep the peace, what if they started to make up the rules as they saw fit? Ooops, I guess that already started, thank to the good old “law and order” types in America.

            Oh yea, under indictment for putting his cigar in the wrong place – just enough background noise to prevent Bill from resisting the republican traitors.

          • WTS/JAY

            What can i tell you, KG? Except that, politics is a dirty business. Fit only for scoundrels, miscreants and perverts. And of such, are to be found in both, parties, and in equal measure! Good luck to ya!

          • KG

            Good luck to you as well. We may have come on different boats, but we are, surely, in the same boat now.

            Love, KG

          • WTS/JAY

            It would appear to be as you say. Cheers!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I do not hate Jews. Next, Jesus said those things because the Pharisees were not knowledgeable to what Jesus was saying and they were full of hypocricy. He proved to them that the Son of God also had the authority to forgive sins, not just God. They also had hardened hearts. Here is something a good God-fearing family may do.
            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/06/16/adoptive-family-helps-raped-teen-whose-mom-pressured-her-to-have-an-abortion/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A man can make a throne from bayonets, but he can never sit upon it.”
            Francis Bacon

          • macgyver1948

            Oh wow Samurai… You can say all you want that you do not hate Jews, and maybe in your way you do not, but you, in your hateful ways, express how you “know” Jews are wrong when it comes to Jesus. This in itself also shows you are not really for Liberty if a persons liberty differs from your beliefs….

            The fact is Jesus was disappointed with the Pharisees because they would never be convinced Jesus was the son of God, Jews in general would not believe this because there is no proof but more so because it contradicts many Hebrew prophesies on the subject. After all he never proved he was or that he was THE Hebrew Messiah or a Hebrew king so why would the Pharisees, or any Jew, accept him? After all, according to Hebrew Scripture, Jesus was proving nothing, he accomplished none of the prophesies/deeds for being the Hebrew Messiah. As I have told you before if you want Jesus to be your Christian Messiah, Christian King or even a Christian prophet go for it because we Jews wouldn’t care. PLEASE stay out of our bible as you distort and redefine Hebrew scriptures for you need to prove something.

            Didn’t Jesus tell his disciples, when he knew he was leaving because of his impending arrest, to continue his teachings? Those teachings were Torah, something you haven’t got a clue about and which was always so very important to Jesus. And they did for the rest of their lives, didn’t they? Which is one of the reasons they did not side with Paul after Jesus’ death because of the heavy contradictions.

            No, you may not hate Jews but I have a strong feeling you want Jews, or any one who will not agree with you, to either go away or for us to betray God and go along with you in your beliefs. Sounds just like Muslim jihadists/extremists, doesn’t it?

            All the distortions in your comment… Where is my Excedrin? LOL

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            Well, I see that you took on the great orator of vast Christian knowledge. The boy looks at the world as he wants to see it regardless of fact, reality or reason.

            The sad thing about him is; he actually believes everything he post in his short sited vision without regard to content or fact.

            My favorite “samurai argument” was a link to “You-Tube” which claimed that Masons were indirectly controlled by space aliens and the Apollo program did not exist since all of the moon landings were filmed on a Disney Studio set.

            I have gone from trying to reason with him to just being amused by him since he lacks a grasp of reason or reality. Like many on this site, he believes that You-Tube is the repository of both knowledge & wisdom and just because some fringe web site shows wacko content-it must be real.

            PLD, Fact is an altered state of reality.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…Yeah, he does seem to consider himself a great orator and wise man who knows all the facts when it comes to religion but there are many others just like him. This is really funny and I remember
            thinking with that Youtube reference on Masons and aliens that many of the Founders were Masons. Yep, our delusional buddy might be an alien himself, LOL… Who really knows since we have no proof of aliens except for the fact that there are so many planets defined by NASA as potentially being able to support life. I agree, our buddy Samurai is amusing with all he says and no proof but he can be scary also if to many people agree with much of what he says or just
            believe him. But to claim Masons are controlled by aliens could be the same as saying many like Samurai are also. One never (really) knows do one? LOL…

            I wish he would learn the difference between reality/fact and opinion/belief(when one has no proof).

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            it is one thing for our little Samurai to babble like a fool, but the problem is; People like him do some pretty egregious things in the name of god (to which they feel they have exclusivity).

            That is the only reason guys like Samurai concern me-otherwise-he is a babbling fool.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… Yeah and that is why I said “I
            agree, our buddy Samurai is amusing with all he says and no proof but
            he can be scary also if to many people agree with much of what he
            says or just believe him”.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I always post sources, so what is you and Bob’s excuses, hmmm? Here is an article that shows how Obama bin Laden wants to escalate the war in Syria by arming Syrian Rebels. This would be bad, since Iran has 4,000 troops on the ground, along with the Russian troops, supporting the Asaad regime. I guess he wants another war.
            http://www.foxnews.com/2013/06/17/too-little-too-late-skeptical-syrian-rebels-await-us-weapons/
            Here is one showing Syrian teens celebrating 9/11.
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/syrian-rebel-teens-sing-al-qaeda-camp-we-destroyed-america-civilian-airplane
            And you two think Bush was bad, Obama bin Laden is worse. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
            Ronald Reagan
            40th President of the U. S.

          • macgyver1948

            Samurai… Yep, often you include links to back you up but so often your links lead us to articles written by people who hate Obama and they are “sharing” (I am being polite with “sharing”) their opinion. Of course you would agree with what they say they because they think like you as they offer your hate so often.

            Then you include “And you two think Bush was bad, Obama bin Laden is worse“. Well, that is your OPINION. My opinion, for example, says that the guy who cost more American deaths is worse. How many Americans deaths did the little bushy cause, in his immoral wars, compared to how many lives Obama lost? It’s a matter of OPINION and how much value you put on lives in this case. One life lost is tragic to me, how many to you since you support the little bushy? You can guess all you want with your hate for Obama but I bet it is not war Obama wants.

            What your Reagan quote says can also be said of The Far Right. The Gipper got laughs from his supporters for that quote and I bet that is what he was going for… HA HA.

          • Bob666

            Oh Sammy,

            As Ronald Reagan said-“There you go Again”.

            You don’t post sources, at least not credible respected ones. They are right wing loon sites that mentally defective loons will actually troll looking for something they want to believe.

            Mac is right, Obama this, Obama that, they provide propaganda-not facts, truth or news. They are cheer-leaders for people like you you will fall for anything because they preach a Gospel of hate-and people like you just suck it up, that’s all. You believe what you choose to believe, not what presents itself as actual fact.

            Then you copy it and come here to paste it for other half wits to swarm to. George H Bush is a fine man, but he was a fair president at best. I refereed to him as President Bush. Bill Clinton was a dog, but a somewhat better president and I refereed to him as President Clinton.

            George W Bush is a biltering idiot, but I referred to him as President Bush. Obama bin Laden-that is not respect and you don’t have the moral high ground-not by a long-shot

            As for Syria-no simple answer. I for one am tired of being the worlds policeman.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… real Samurai were honorable people for the most part. This one sounds like pure Tea to me… I mostly go at it with him because of how he wants Judaism to vanish as well as how he distorts liberty. He is an insult.

          • KG

            I’m sorry, but the link you provided didn’t work for me. However Lifenews is a catholic website, so i assume you must be Catholic. After all, years ago, most Evangelicals professed that the Antichrist was the Pope, and the Whore of Babylon was the Catholic church. That is until they became Republicans. There was a real ecumenical movement over the issue of Abortion, so now you have ‘unequally yoked’ yourself to other religions over an issue thats really none of your business.

            There were two instances of infanticide in the Bible, and G-d saw fit not to stop either one of them. So, if G-d is pro-choice, why cant a woman be?

            “Nothing is more uncommon in the world than common sense.”
            Francis Bacon

          • Bob666

            Oh yes,
            when little Geisha boy boy loses-he pulls the personal attack-how pathetic!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I see we have been looking in the mirror again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A person that refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”
            Francis Bacon
            *Go, and learn what this means.

          • Bob666

            Oh Geisha Boy,

            You are always the one crying personal attack.

            Ransom E. Olds,
            American automotive engineer whose name is linked to the General Motors Oldsmobile division.
            Capitol Lodge No. 66, Lansing Michigan.

        • WTS/JAY

          LIBERALISM SUCKS AND WE WILL TELL YOU WHY THIS IS SO

          « One Of The Top Liberal Lies: “Tax Cuts For The Rich”….ALiberal tells the truth:

          “Conservatives and especially Christian conservatives find it hard to comprehend how and why liberals lie so easily. Many liberals seem to lie without the slightest guilt or compunction”.

          “For left-wing politics, lying goes back to the Russian Bolsheviks or earlier. The masses were lied to because the ruling elite (or the ruling elite to be) felt that the ends (Marxism) justified any means, and the masses were too stupid and ignorant to know what was good for them. But the ruling elite knew exactly what was good for them. Leftists have a rather low opinion of the masses, the average citizen”.

          Liberalism is like a religion, and it has zealots as fanatical as any other religion. But unlike most religions, liberalism has no moral code. The closest thing to a moral code in liberalism is “don’t get caught”. Ethics are situational, and totally up for interpretation. The truth is subjective, and the truth is merely what you want it to be. To the fanatic the leftist cause is so noble, so sacred that any lying or cheating for the leftist cause is justified”.

          When a liberal lies to the American public, he is in effect saying,

          “You are too stupid to know what is good for you. I know what is good for you. I will say anything I need to say to convince you my way is the right way.”

          If liberals were honest about their vision for this country few people would ever vote for them. Liberals must lie to us in order to impose the tyranny of liberalism upon us.

          • KG

            How much ‘truth’ came from our last ‘christian conservative’ president? You know, the one who rammed through congress the so-called “patriot act”? And who said he wasn’t concerned with finding the biggest criminal of our time – Bin Laden? Whose father was H.W. Bushes business partner? And whose Grandfather actually supported the Nazis in WW2? Oh, yea, I trust those creeps. How much ‘honesty’ did we get from those guys? I think you may be blinded by greed, or lust for more booty (arrggg…..like a pirate).

            You can’t just toss “liberal” like a curse word. I’m proud to wear that label. After all, our Founding Fathers were some of the most liberal people in the world. They had the audacity to reject G-d’s representatives on earth and find a way for men to live in peace with each other. Unlike the war mongering, hateful, Pseudo Christian, Conservatives we have today. So there!

          • WTS/JAY

            I think you’ve got the part about bushy-boy being a Christian WRONG! The last president was no Christian, and neither is the current one. You need to get you’re facts straight, sonny.

          • KG

            It’s amazing what you can find with a simple google search –

            http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2004/07/George-W-Bush-On-Faith.aspx

            I would say WTS/JAY is as full of it as Bush was.

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: It’s amazing what you can find with a simple google search –

            It’s amazing how easily a simpleton is mislead by a simple google-search.

          • KG

            So? What’s your point? Is it the fact you are too lazy to find facts yourself? Or do you choose to be deluded?

          • WTS/JAY

            Deluded about what, precisely? You are the one claiming Bush was a Christian, not me.

          • Bob666

            Well Jay,
            there is one thing that we agree on.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha! That is for sure. But alas! He has only darkness in him and is lead wherever satan leads him. Here is an article showing AT&T will have alerts from Obama bin Laden that you can never turn off.
            http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/15/att-wireless-emergency-alerts-iphone-4s-5/
            The last thing we need is to not be able to turn off Obama bin Laden. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Once a person is touched with power, he is never quite the same again.”
            Samurai

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Another thing to consider, if the Bush Father and Son were Republicans as they were touted, why were and are their wives Democrats.

          • macgyver1948

            Funny,,,
            Arnold, a republican, Schwarzenegger’s ex-wife is of a famous
            Democratic family.

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: How much ‘truth’ came from our last ‘christian conservative’ president? You know, the one who rammed through congress the so-called “patriot act”?

            About as much truth that comes out of your mouth and out of the mouth of the pigmy in the out-house. Why do you ask?

            KG: And who said he wasn’t concerned with finding the biggest criminal of our time – Bin Laden? Whose father was H.W. Bushes business partner? And whose Grandfather actually supported the Nazis in WW2?

            Did you forget to put on your tin-foil-hat today, KG?

            KG: Oh, yea, I trust those creeps. How much ‘honesty’ did we get from those guys?

            About as much honesty as we are getting from the current guys. Why do you ask?

            KG: I think you may be blinded by greed, or lust for more booty (arrggg…..like a pirate).

            A rather revealing projection on your part!

            KG: You can’t just toss “liberal” like a curse word.

            Of course i can. If you can just toss “Conservative”, “Republican” and “Christian” like curse words, why then would you deny me the opportunity to return you the favour? Are you against free speech?

            KG: I’m proud to wear that label.

            We are well aware of that, KG

            KG: After all, our Founding Fathers were some of the most liberal people in the world.

            Our founding fathers were Liberal-Consirvatives, to be more precise, KG. Also, they are no longer living. But they did leave us with a remarkable legacy, and the sweetest gift; the Constitution! A document, btw, that you present day liberal-progressives clearly despise. So how then, can you claim kinship with our founding fathers?

            KG: They had the audacity to reject G-d’s representatives on earth and find a way for men to live in peace with each other.

            Yes, they had the audacity to write legislation that would keep the likes of you and you’re ghoulish party in check, as well as, for the purpose to resist a theocracy. So what is your point?

            KG: Unlike the war mongering, hateful, Pseudo Christian, Conservatives we have today. So there!

            Oh really? Well, you’re a wiener. So there!

          • KG

            Love ya, Bro!

          • WTS/JAY

            KG: KG: And who said he wasn’t concerned with finding the biggest criminal of our time – Bin Laden? Whose father was H.W. Bushes business partner? And whose Grandfather actually supported the Nazis in WW2?Did you forget to put on your tin-foil-hat today, KG?

            My earlier response to your statement: Did you forget to put on your tin-foil-hat today, KG? You know why, right?

            But my response, should have been: Yes, you are correct!

          • KG
          • macgyver1948

            LMAO :-)

          • perry

            So tell me that the conservatives don’t lie.Like graham,and other right wing senators.That know of the N.S.A.programs,and endorse them.

          • WTS/JAY

            Of course not. Both parties lie, and they are both, equally corrupt!

      • WTS/JAY

        Once you’ve watched liberals long enough to understand how they think — scratch that, how they feel — they become extraordinarily predictable.

        To begin with, the liberal agenda is, in many respects, the same as it was in the thirties. Whether you call it communism, fascism, socialism, liberalism, or progressivism, the only real difference is how much they believe they can get away with, the way they sell it to people, and the latest trendy name for what they believe.

        So, once the liberals pick a policy from their stale program to push, the next step is to get it implemented. This is where liberals have problems because whether a policy makes sense, is practical, or actually improves people’s lives is of secondary importance to them. What is important to liberals is whether supporting or opposing that policy makes them feel good about themselves.

        This is why liberals continue to support dysfunctional policies that have been failing miserably for decades and why they often oppose common sense programs that have been proven to work time and time again — because it isn’t about whether it works or not, it’s about how it makes them feel.

        In other words, a liberal will almost always prefer a policy that’s extremely expensive, is difficult to implement, helps almost no one, but seems “nice” — to a policy that is cheap, simple to implement, extremely effective, and seems “mean.”

        http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2008/06/27/why_liberals_lie_about_what_they_believe

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          This is true. All they really know is tax and spend and tax again. They are the real enemies of the middle class. Here is an article, I’ve posted part 1 already, about islam. Here is part 2.
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/what-you-need-to-know-about-islam-part-2/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “I, tto, have made a wee-little book from the same materials, which I call the Philosophy of Jesus; it is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book, and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          Letter to Charles Thompson
          January 09, 1818
          Orthodox Christian

      • JeffH

        사무라이, 멋 지세요 아버지 날 그리고 신의 호가 당신과 당신의 가족

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          쩨프도 멋 지세요 아버지 날 그리고 신의 호가 당신과 당신의 가족.
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “Can the liberties of a nation be secure when they have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?”
          Thomas Jefferson
          3rd President of the U. S.
          Founding father
          Orthodox Christian

      • macgyver1948

        samurai… Very quickly a piece of realty for you and I know you have problems wit that. Little bush did have lower popular vote numbers in 2000 when it was over. So “baaaaa! baaaaa!” to you and your denial thought processes. You are arguing with real numbers and there is a padded room with your name on it when you do that.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Though he may of had less popular votes, but he had the more electoral votes and that is what gets you into the White House. Here is something that shows Obama bin Laden’s plans for Syria look just like Operatio Iraqi Freedom.
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/obamas-syria-policy-looks-a-lot-like-bushs-iraq-policy-2/
          Looks like we are not done in the Middle East. We should get the Israelis to come with us and protect the Jews and Christians there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “…but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense he wished anyone to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          3rd President of the U. S.
          Founding father
          Orthodox Christian

          • macgyver1948

            samurai… You said “Though he may of had less popular votes, but he had the more electoral votes
            and that is what gets you into the White House”. Ok, maybe in your not America kind of country it is NOT important what the majority of the people want in an election so it would work your way there, that being a small group decides for the mass majority of the voters. Seriously it is sad that a small group, the Electoral College here, can over ride what the mass majority wants in our democratic elections. You really do express yourself and your side very well. Thank you for explaining it. You do remember that Obama won both what the majority of American voters and the Electoral College wanted in this election, don’t you?

            You say “Looks like we are not done in the Middle East. We should get the Israelis to come with us and protect the Jews and Christians there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!”. What the he*ll does all this mean and not only the “하나님하고나라를 위해서!”? I do not know where to begin asking you what you mean, LOL. “ We should get the Israelis to come with us and protect the Jews and Christians there”. LOL… Since the Israelis are made up of, in
            their country already over there, Jews/ Christians/ Muslims and some others, who is it that will be going over “there” with us? LOL… You are so much fun at times. You bet we, us and those who live
            there, are not done in the Middle East and we will never be as long as they do not trust each other and as long as there are terrorists who will not allow Jews to have Israel or exist at all. If we could just guarantee that there will be no more terrorist attacks into Israel it might have a chance. If all of Israels will turn over all
            terrorists who sneak into and then out of Israel to Israel it will not work. If Israel’s neighbors really want peace they will agree to do that. What are the chances of that happening? As for Syria, well, they are a terrorists nation as is Iran so they will continue to do
            their terrorist thing. I am not smart enough nor do I have the ability to see all possibilities in the future to know if supplying the rebels with our weapons is a good thing but something has to be done there.

            You say “Here is something that shows Obama bin Laden’s plans for Syria look just like Operatio Iraqi Freedom”. If you and your kind can make up or redesign operational names, as well as fantasize the names of people you are programmed to hate, then you should also remember what president originated Fast and Furious. You do remember which president started that “Operatio”, don’t you?

            By the way sam-e-ri,,, I love America and Liberty equally for all (I do not get the feeling you do) and I love and worship God. So that makes me an American Patriot by most of your definition. I do not believe
            in Jesus and I have that right. Why do you feel the need to push that man, pure mortal, from ancient history on me so often? I respect, as I have told you so many times, your right to worship and believe in Jesus your ways but you seem to find fault in my lack of beliefs in Jesus. That in itself makes you not so much a believer in Liberty, not so much a patriot. Live with that. I do not need you to agree with me but you seem to have a need. I feel sorry for you.

            By the way again, Thomas Jefferson as you continue to remind us, was a strong Christian, most of us know that. But he wanted so much for liberty to prevail in our country he knew part of that had to include Freedom Of Religion equally for all. For that to happen the wisdom of the Founders had to include not putting any specific religion into the Constitution. That is why they decided not to use any variation of the words “Christian, Jesus or Christ” in the Constitution or
            in basic law making. They knew religious liberty would not work if they made this a, for example, Christian country. What he said as a private citizen worked for him as he expressed his love for God and Jesus. God and morality are in the Constitution but not ANY specific religion. You can quote, or misquote, Thomas Jefferson all you want but it will never change the reality of the real Liberty the Founders wanted for our country.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            They did use, “…in the Year of our Lord…”, which is a reference to Jesus. What makes us a Christian nation is the fact that everything we are based on comes right from the Bible. Neeeeed to study more. You don’t believe in Jesus and that is your right? You are correct, but not believing in Jesus and not knowing why He came to earth will end you up in fire and torment for your life in the here after. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “In that day the Lord with His sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and He shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.”
            Isaiah 27:1

          • macgyver1948

            Samurai… Once again after reading your comment I find myself asking “WOW -where do I begin?”. Yes I agree the Founders used the expression “…in the Year of our Lord…”. Why not since they were Christians and they would be referring to Jesus as their lord because they are Christan. I could go into history and add that it was the Romans who created that calender when they felt the need to save Rome
            from extinction but you might not understand so I will leave history out. More to the point the Founders were Christians so that expression was native to them. To all those who are NOT Christian, and there are more of us (not Christian if you missed that) then there are Christians in the world who believe in God, Jesus is NOT lord, he is that only to those who chose to believe he is.

            You say “Neeeeed to study more”. I am just guessing because I cannot be sure but if you mean I “Neeeeed to stud” your bible “more” I have to ask you why since it is not my bible and not much in it means anything to me. In other words, your bible is no more my bible
            than the Koran is your bible. Did you understand that? I have read two Christian Bibles cover to cover, The Catholic and the King James, and pieces of others. They are all basically the same with minor exceptions, like some fewer books on the Protestant versions but the stories are the same of what is there. For me there is so much mythology in them and it is forbidden for Jews to believe the myths.

            I am getting that harsh because I see you are one of three things. 1- you are super stupid. 2- you are a super bigot. 3- a combination of 1 and 2. I am strongly learning that number 3 applies to you.

            You see, I prefer to believe in the Hebrew Bible. My bible and yours very much contradict each other and I have always been puzzled as to why the two were put together in the same binder. For me the contradictions are extremely obvious and many. For you to say “You
            don’t believe in Jesus and that is your right? You are correct, but not believing in Jesus and not knowing why He came to earth will end you up in fire and torment for your life in the here after”, shows your ignorance and bigotry. The other day you said you do not hate Jews and I have great difficulty believing that. You can condemn Jews as you do, something only what can be done by God. Good for you.

            What is there for me to know (“but not believing in Jesus and not knowing why He came to earth will end you up in fire and torment for your life in the here after”) This is so funny to me since I do not believe a word of what you say since you get that interpretation from the New Testament, something in which I have no belief, in case you forgot. This too is why you are a jihadists. You, much like the Muslims extremists/terrorists/etc, express “if we cannot absorb
            you, to our ways of believing and worshiping God, one way or another you will eternally die. This “Only our ways of believing and feeling and doing is right for all and if you do not agree with us you have to be wrong” is you expressed ways, just like the terrorists. You are condemning Jews and we were around with God long
            before Christianity, centuries longer. There were many conquering cultures, such as Persians/Iran, The Romans, Hitler and Muslim extremists who are trying to eliminate Jews as you are but each with their own methods. You and those Christians like you are with those groups as you do it your way to eliminate Judaism. Again, your Paul on his road trip to Damascus, came up with his way to eliminate
            Judaism and that didn’t work then and it will never work. It is why your Jesus’ Disciples were opposed to Paul but it was basically because Paul TRIED to eliminate The Torah and the 7th day Sabbath and the Convenient God made with Abraham. Eliminating Torah, God’s laws, would be like saying NO to God for Jews. That is a big something you do not seem to understand.

            Explain something to me you Mr. Samurai-Know-It -all-Of-the-Bibles. In the Golden Calf Story God was so angry with the Israelites for the damning golden calf event He told Moses He would kill all the Hebrews
            for their huge sins and betrayals and atrocities and he would continue on His journey to find a deserving people who would accept ALL of His laws, not just the laws that people would like. Considering The Ten Commandants comes from Torah, ultimately from
            God, why would we Jews believe any eliminating of Torah from you guys?

            IT IS A MORTAL SIN FOR JEWS TO ACCEPT AND BELIEVE IN JESUS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT THE SINGLE ENTITY THAT IS God. Are you capable of understanding that simple statement and concept? I am not asking you to believe it as we Jews do, just can you comprehend?

            Jesus is NOT Lord to Jews so we do not say “in the year of our Lord”, what would be the point? And to us he was no more a part of God then is the rest of us. To Jews Jesus was totally mortal with 2 mortal bio
            parents, and we cannot worship other people or demi-gods. Prove us wrong when this is our FAITH; prove your way is Right. As I told you before, please stay out of our bible since all you do is distort our scriptures to justify something in yours. To each his own faith and
            bible. Yep, you are NUMBER 3. Keep your damning jihad to yourself and for those who choose to believe as you. If I were Christian you would be an embarrassment. When you say you believe in US Constitutional Liberty you are an embarrassment.

            Bob666…
            That was Excedrin for me, lol…

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            Was it good for you….Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha!!!!!!

            I believe that Sammy is Number three as well.

            Why are we wasting our time with this Yutz? I mean-don’t you feel dumber for having had this exchange with him? That bus is so short-the front and rear tires rub against each other.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… DUH,,, which way did he go? LOL…. Yeah it does bother me because it is scary and there are so many who think like him yet I have known all my life decent Christians who do not think this way…. Why are there so many different Christian denominations who have the same bibles but think differently and many feel only their ways are right? As in advertising how can they all be right if all the others are wrong and not as good? Wasn’t there just one Jesus?

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac-

            I’m not sure the poor boy has a clue which direction is heading now. He will call both of us bullies and members of the fifth column (what ever that is) and Marxist (Groucho or Karl?) and of course-we are wrong and he is right -way far to the right.

            As a kid who grew up in a Christian home and listened to his father read the bible every night as a bed time story-there was just one and only one Christ. Unfortunately-too many morons willing to do stupid stuff in his name and that is what you and I experienced tonight.

            We will all have our day one on one with the Big Guy and Sammy will too. I just have to envision the Big Guy saying to him, Really Sammy-No $hit-Really? and you said this why Sammy????

            keep the faith my friend!

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… I guess we should feel sorry for that poor boy fore he knows not what he does (or says) but delusion-ally thinks what is best for him has to be best and Right for all. There are so many of this kind of poor boys and that can get scary.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            yes, get Sammy and JeffH together and you might have a double digit IQ. It’s not the lack of intellect that bothers me-it’s the Pius & moral superior mentality that concerns me.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666,,, we talked about this. When people have that “I am Right all the time and anyone who disagrees with me has stuff wrong with them” disease they can be nutz. Hitler was just like that and it is a good thing these guys have no power but there are some with loads of money and clout just like them who are a concern.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            You are correct-we did. The thing that concerns me about these people is they are so easily manipulated. Karl Rove figured out if they hear it from the pulpit -they take it on blind faith and don’t question the BS.

            Our Geisha boy is obviously such a guy.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…
            Please do not associate Blind Faith, one of my favorite music groups,
            with the likes of Karl Rove or Norquist for that matter. I would
            hate to think Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker, Steve Winwood, and
            Ric Grech would align themselves with someone like Rove who would
            want to own and control everything, including us, along with the
            Kochs and more, LOL… Sorry about that, I couldn’t resist, :-).

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            Yes-I liked Blind faith as well and go to see Clapton when he in here on tour-he still has it. Winwood fell off of the map, but the low spark of high heeled boys is still one of my favorite piece and is in the CD player of my car.

            As far as Grover and Karl-there is a special place waiting for both one day as both are the puppet masters for the puppet masters. People like Sammy are at the other end of the string.

          • macgyver1948

            Yep, obviously… :-)

          • perry

            There is no one that is Right all the time.If they think so they are living in a world of make believe. so come back to earth and learn some thing.One who thinks in this way needs to get some help.

          • macgyver1948

            Perry…
            I have to figure that you are responding to me since this site is
            saying so in an email they sent me so I will take it that you are.
            Where in what I said do you get there are people, from my point of
            view, who are right all the time? Obama is not right all the time and
            the TPGOP is hardly right unless you look at what they say and do
            only from the big corporations’ and the very wealthy’s points of view.
            So who is it that really needs to come back to Earth and get some
            help?

          • Jeff

            You’re living dangerously, Mac. Faque Samurai will not only declare you the 5th column; he’ll “leave you out” of his dumb kids’ lunch table.

          • macgyver1948

            Gee
            Jeff, I better put it on my To-Do list to be scared and Concerned. I
            should do that right now or I will forget…LOL

          • Jeff

            Had they actually counted the votes in Florida, Gore would have won without even taking account of the butterfly ballot and the hanging chads. Remember the Brooks Brothers Mob? All those Young Republican types rioting to make sure the votes couldn’t get counted? W was well organized but Gore got the most votes. Anyone who thinks elections don’t matter need look no further.

            And when you add in the elderly Jews who “voted” for Pat Buchanan when they wanted to vote for Gore, Florida wasn’t really even close. But for Faque Samurai, God put W in office. Therefore, He must have done the same for Obama.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff…I remember all this and the famous Diebold Voting machines too. Nothing like a “FAIR” election to get your guys to win. I remember the Brooks bro mob with all the young republicans who tried so hard to get their side to win even at the expense of a fair vote.
            I have Jewish relatives in Florida, Wow were some pissed when they learned they might have voted for a Pat Buchanan. Why would anyone interested in Liberty want him?

            I wonder if we can have a fair election in our country with how easy it is to rig and get away with it. As for God showing how He wanted a Republican to win. Well. With all the God-like Republican money, now
            secret money thanks to SCUTUS, God had noting to do with how Mitt lost. But buying elections ain’t what it used to be. I bet Koch/Norquist/others on the Right might have to figure out other ways to ‘take’ it but they are still to this day trying with their monies to take upcoming elections. Where are the Diebold machines now when they neeeeeed them?

            As for Samurai and his kind, he doesn’t know any more about God then he knows about what is fair in equal rights if it doesn’t match what he wants for himself.

          • Jeff

            If memory serves, Diebold was 2004. Every time a Bush runs for office, there’s weirdness with the voting. Remember Ken Blackwell and the long lines in all the Black neighborhoods in Ohio? Despite losing the popular vote by 3 million, Kerry could have won if a few thousand more voters in the Democratic areas of Ohio could have voted. It pisses me off because I live in a pretty big city in California and there’s never any waiting here. What they do to limit the vote in poor areas of Florida and Ohio is simply criminal.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff…Criminal is the small of it. It is unconscionable, or is it unconstitutional? I feel the ID cards this election was the today’s version.

            You said “Every time a Bush runs for office, there’s weirdness with the voting”. It is not just with a bush in the running. More is going on today with current election. Diebold was a biggie for me to take in considering I was a programmer and a project
            manager/business analyst and I do not understand why there wasn’t a huger FBI investigation into that instead of just what there was. That kind of thing takes loads of effort and money to program (voting) machines to commit major voting fraud.

            It may be to somewhat harder to corrupt the system and people in larger cities, who knows, and the elderly are nice prey for the crooks. That could be why Florida. Ohio may have been just easy to hold off the
            lines for some reasons. I also think Blacks are so often
            underestimated by those who use their bigotry and greed to win. Whatever it is with the habits of those who think they are always Right no matter what and how they win the elections, just so they win is their goals. I bet many decent Republicans would be appalled if they knew what was going on in their names even if it is not really for them. That is why elections must be better monitored and campaign advertising and campaign donations must always be above board and public – no secrets.

            888

            When it happened really doesn’t matter, only that it did. If not fraudulent machines the corrupt will find other corrupt methods.

            88
            Jeff…
            WASHINGTON — The Securities and Exchange Commission is pursuing fraud charges against three former executives of ATM maker Diebold Inc. after
            reaching a $25 million settlement with the company on Wednesday.

            The SEC filed civil charges against former Diebold executives Gregory Geswein, Kevin Krakora and Sandra Miller, alleging they manipulated the company’s books to meet earnings forecasts from 2002 through 2007. Geswein was a chief financial officer, Krakora was a controller and finance chief, and Miller was director of corporate accounting.

            Through their attorneys, Geswein, Krakora and Miller disputed the SEC’s charges.

          • Bob666

            Jo Jeff,
            I recall during that election, even Buchanan’s sister -his Florida campaign manager admitted that her brother could not have carried Palm Beach county the way the vote was reported

  • WTS/JAY

    IRS Agents Are Training With AR-15′s…You Know, For Audits and Stuff…

    Rep. Jeff Duncan, a Republican Congressman from SC, has started a bit of a firestorm on Twitter. Duncan is the Homeland Oversight Chair, and during a recent tour of a DHS facility, the congressman noticed IRS (yes, the Internal Revenue Service) agents training with AR-15 style rifles.

    Why you might ask? Well that’s a good question, and the congressman has the same one…

    http://gunssavelives.net/blog/irs-agents-are-training-with-ar-15s-you-know-for-audits-and-stuff/

    • Bob666

      Yo Jay,
      Question for you-what Federal agency oversees the IRS when it comes to criminal investigations? I know the answer-do you?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        That is irrelevent! IRS agents do not need this kind of training. ATF, DEA, FBI, Secret Service (SS), military, etc., yes, but an IRS agent does not need to train on or carry an AR-15. Here is a video showing what we need to demand from Obama bin Laden.
        http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/06/demand-transparency-from-obama/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Better to fight for something than to die for nothing.”
        General George S. Patton Jr.

        • Bob666

          Well Sammy,
          I see that you read the question, but I’m not sure you understood it.

          BTW-Happy Fathers day-the best that I ever had and I have to believe you would agree on that.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I understood what you posted, but I just said that they have no need for that type of training. I just added onto what you said. BTW, Happy Father’s Day. Happy Father’s Day to everyone on this thread and their husbands. Here is Obama bin Laden’s Father’s Day speech. Notice he lied about his mom only being a single parent, nothing aout his step father in Indonesia, and he also mentions the queers.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/obamas-fathers-day-freudian-slip/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The comparisons of our governments with those of Europe are like a comparison of Heaven and Hell.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd President of the U. S.
            Founding father
            Orthodox Christian

          • WTS/JAY

            Happy father’s day to you, Sam!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Same to you Jay! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.”
            Jesus Christ
            Mark 16:15

  • perry

    All of this god and country will not stop whats going on.So have at and waist all of your time and stop nothing.