Liberal Columnist Whines About Scary Republicans Envisioning Revolution, Thomas Jefferson Posthumously Reminds Him Not To Wet His Pants

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Support for 2nd Amendment rights is contingent upon what individuals believe is the true function of the un-infringed right to bear arms granted to American citizens in the Constitution.

Fairleigh Dickinson University released its Public Mind poll on Wednesday, offering some perspective about the partisan divide with regard to gun control and where Americans with opposing political beliefs think firearms fit into American society.

The pollsters offered the following query with the option to “agree,” “disagree,” remain neutral or refuse to answer: “In the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties.”

They found that an overall 29 percent of Americans were in agreement with the statement. Segmented by political belief, people who believed armed revolution will become necessary were: 18 percent Democrat, 27 percent independent and 44 percent Republican.

“The differences in views of gun legislation are really a function of differences in what people believe guns are for,” Dan Cassino, a professor of political science at Fairleigh Dickinson, said of the results. “If you truly believe an armed revolution is possible in the near future, you need weapons and you’re going to be wary about government efforts to take them away.”

While the poll left the severity of the threats to liberty that might spark such a revolution to the imagination, some on the left have already begun shouting: “See! Conservatives can’t win elections, so their obvious reason for liking guns is to overthrow the government.”

That’s precisely how Salon’s David Sirota addressed the poll results:

Typically, GOP leaders typically say that their opposition to minimal gun regulations has nothing to do with helping arm those who want to commit acts of violence, and everything to do with wanting to make sure people can defend themselves. Based on the poll, of course, it is certainly likely that many are buying such weapons in an effort to defend themselves, both for day-to-day life and in the event of a sudden armed revolution. But here’s the scary part: how many are buying weapons to arm themselves in order to foment an armed revolution? Maybe none, but maybe a lot. I don’t have an answer – but this poll suggests the question should at least be aired…

…According to the Farleigh Dickinson poll, 44 percent of rank-and-file Republicans seem to believe that because they aren’t getting their way through the ballot box, bloodshed may be justified to impose their will on everyone else. Think of it as sore loser-ism juiced by violence.

Sirota goes on to back up his theory of revolutionary fomentation by those on the right in saying that conservatives have used “vitriolic” language in describing “almost everything in the Democratic/liberal agenda — from Obamacare to taxes to environmental regulations to contraception policy” as an assault on liberty. He goes on to accuse conservatives who don’t want to see their Constitutional rights eroded, don’t want to be told what to eat, may have religious objections to contraceptives and don’t agree with Obamacare of “undermining the most basic non-violent democratic ideals that are supposed to define America” in favor of violence.

If there is a bloody American revolution in the cards in coming years, people like Sirota will be just as culpable as those who initially take up arms against perceived Federal tyranny in sparking it. Sirota’s shrieking alarmism that Republicans could at any moment be working to spark revolution perverts the very ideal of democratic civil discourse he claims to worry so much about.

Sirota is simply doing his part to further the cause of big-government gun control by crying wolf, and his shtick is nothing new.

Way back in 1787, Thomas Jefferson, who was in France at the time, wrote a letter to his friend William Smith in which he discussed concerns over  how a rebellion that had just taken place in Massachusetts — which became known as Shay’s Rebellion — was being used by the governing class make the case for more Federal government. And propagandists like Sirota had a part to play.

Jefferson wrote:

The British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusetts? And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness.

Jefferson’s point that the real threat is nowhere near as serious as was implied by some agenda-driven individuals applies quite nicely to more contemporary arguments for more firearm controls.

The Founding Father continued:

God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independent 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. What country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two?

So how many Republican-sparked armed revolutions have occurred? Zero. What, then, must be the agenda of people like Sirota? Perhaps it’s removing the threat of violence, which serves nicely to encourage civil discourse, so that liberal agendas can be shoved down the throats of the unwilling. More government without question or threat. More taxes. More regulations. More welfare.

And that brings us to the most famous portion of Jefferson’s letter:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.

Sirota should thank those Americans who believe revolution could one day become necessary to preserve liberty, because they are crucial to the preservation of “basic non-violent democratic ideals.” And perhaps if more Americans thought like those 29 percent who can fathom the possibility of armed revolution, government corruption, waste and abuse would be far less rampant that it is in the bureaucratic behemoth that exists today.

Personal Liberty

Sam Rolley

Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After covering community news and politics, Rolley took a position at Personal Liberty Media Group where could better hone his focus on his true passions: national politics and liberty issues. In his daily columns and reports, Rolley works to help readers understand which lies are perpetuated by the mainstream media and to stay on top of issues ignored by more conventional media outlets.

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  • Nightowl872

    They wish to turn this country into a dictatorship. With the have-Royal and the have-nothing, just like any third world country.

  • Flashy

    Well, the wacked right contingent is getting even more desperate as the marginalization of those needing fear, anger and ignorance to sustain their own sorry self worth in the cause of martyrdom continues to gain speed.

    Across the board, the lunatics are being pushed aside and signs of sanity are returning to the GOP as its own internal war for the future path of that party is waged. The confrontation between the sane and the insane portions of the GOP started with absurdities such as interference in the Terry Schiavo matter.

    Since this administration was elected, twice, by a majority of the voters with a clear mandate for progress, it has taken the form of a belief that everything the
    President does must be opposed as if it were the onset of tyranny. This disfunctional Obama Derangement Syndrome has resulted in a situation where
    it’s essentially impossible to get the nation’s business done. Quite literally…there is common belief if President Obama said it was “natural law” the sun would rise in the east, the wacked Right would attack the comment as being absolute proof he wa anti Christian and a menace to our society.

    The damage wrought by the extremists? To the GOP? A fratricidal internal war much like what the Democrats went through in the early 80’s when it ousted the far Left from it’s decision making ranks…but in this one, the far right loonies are taking bodies and shedding blood as they are pushed aside. A generation which is growing up seeing the GOP as anti everything but the orders of Big Business and the American Taliban. Intolerant of everything which calls for a fair and level laying field for all. Abandonment of the poor, the young, the old, the infirm and of Middle America.

    A generation which will reject the GOP mantra for years. The liklihood that the GOP will become a regional party, one which will slowly diminish as more and more the influences of the extremists are lessened by voters.

    The extremists rely now upon two areas to maintain their slipping grip on America’s throat. one is to rig elections which water down those majority peoples who see them as they are. To gerrymander political seats and deny fair and honest elections. And to threaten and stall any movement forward to cause this nation grief and malaise…in the hope that as it descends into third world status, extremism will again rise and give them what they seek…the end of America as we know it.

    Above all, a total rejection any solution which will move this nation forward and be positioned to take on the challenges of the 21st century. Math? Doesn’t count to them. Science? It’s Anti religion and since it doesn’t jive with the goals of serfdom by Corporate America..to be rejected.

    And when they are cornered and the simple question asked “ummm…care to provide specifics?” They scurry away as they are stripped bare and shown to be nothing more than empty buckets bereft of nothing more than robots spewing the fear, hate and ignorance their masters tell them they must have to legitimize their sorry sense of low self worth.

    • Paul

      Flashy,

      I don’t mean to disrespect your oppinion but, all you’ve said was blah, blah, blah. What else can we the people expect to do when you have 1/2 of the population feeding off the other half and government pushing it even more for the sake of votes? What about the never ending increase of our taxes and they want more and more? What do you expect when our government is more interested in punishing the people because they didn’t get their way (sequester crap) instead of working towards the benefit of all? Our own government divided our nation for election greed; spending and wasting our hard earned money and placing our nation in unsustainable debt that can never be paid back! I can list 100 pages of why this government is failing the people but it won’t matter. Until the people unite as one nation and realize the enemy IS our own government and not liberals or conservatives, this nation WILL face a serious civil revolution. I am sorry to state that I have very little hope we’ll survive the mess we are in. The greatest nation that has ever existed is dying right before our eyes.

      • Average_Joe56

        We now live in a system called: Ineptocracy

        (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy)

        A system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for with the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

        AJ

        • JeffH

          OMG! Ain’t that the truth!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I second that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves out all libturds and progturds. Say, where is edduh?
          “A true Christian is the true citizen.”
          Theodore Roosevelt

    • momo

      I see flashman is back with his usual rant, liberals are great conservatives, not so much. Yeah we get it flasho. Do you just cut and paste this BS or do you actually write it for every post. Sirota should be one of your heros flashy, after all he wrote this:
      http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

      You and your ilk flashman are nothing more than pathetic whiners, who when the SHTF would run to mommy and hind behind her apron strings.

    • FedUP15232

      Obama wasn’t elected by a majority of Americans. He was elected by massive voter fraud. He is an illegitimate president running an illegitimate regieme. He is doing his best to destroy the America that most of us have known. He would turn us into sheep to be exploited by the elite. His government is a fascist government. Only about one-third of the colonists supported the first American Revolution. It was enough. It seems that we are getting close to that number now.

    • Eagle525

      Hey Flashy …. The liberal progressives have screwed this country since President Johnson. You continual bashing of the Conservatives paints you as a die hard , left wing , extremist radicle liberal with absolutely no concept of why the populace and founding fathers rebelled, and fought a war against England.

      You, like millions of illegal immigrants, perceive The US taxpayer to be your free ride and support socialistic policies promoted by the DSP. (DEMOCRAT SOCIALIST PARTY) Politically speaking, you are no better that the Boston Bombers that sucked tens of thousands of dollars from the American taxpayer.

      People like you are the cancer that will kill America .

    • Frank Kahn

      Forward to HELL? Liberals use SCIENCE? Democrats understand MATH?

      Rigging elections can take many forms, using illegal alien appeasement to garner massive minority votes is a form of manipulation of the electorate. Pandering to all the immoral degenerates that love same sex relationships and killing innocent babies for votes is manipulation of the electorate. Calling the requirement for photo ID’s to vote a hindrance to democrat voters is both a lie and voter manipulation.

      Pretending that 51% of the people voting (not the total voting age population) is a vast majority of citizens is exaggeration.

      Science is not anti-religion, there are some points of contention about origins but most things in science are given in the Bible.

      Science (used by actual scientists) has been used by the liberals to pretend there are problems that need to be corrected by control of the population. True science has shown that GMO’s cause health issues and have caused major problems in the agricultural industry. But the current administration has given special privileges to Monsanto, one of the biggest problem causing companies in GMO. AGW has been used to create massive new regulations, costing huge amounts of money, in an effort to control the human population. Human carbon dioxide emissions account for less than 1/3 of the total GW effects in the world, but the liberal lunatics claim GW is man made. This is not science, it is alarmist fear mongering by the left.

      Forward, to what? Our current educational system is producing graduates that are almost totally incapable of competing in the world economy when it come to science, math, history. We are somewhere around 22nd in ranking of performance in education. This is a direct result of the liberal teaching agenda of the left. My niece spent a whole year of grade school learning “social interaction”, something that means how to play with people of other cultural and racial backgrounds. Hell, I have watched kids playing, they don’t need adult intervention for them to play together, just let them play.

      Forward at what cost? Our current administration and the liberal portion of our society is hell bent on pushing racism to the extreme. All white people should be ashamed that they were born white! If you are white, you should be oppressed to pay for the racial sins of your ancestors. If you are white, you must be given a penalty that limits your access to education, housing and employment. If you are white, you are automatically a racist and think you are better than all other colors of people?

      Forward by what standards? If you believe that killing innocent babies (abortion) is wrong you hate women? If you believe that nature intended for species sexual unions to be of one male and one female, you are against the RIGHTS of homosexuals? If you believe that ILLEGAL aliens have no legal status or rights in our country, you are racist? If you believe in God, you believe in slavery? If you believe in

      God, and you support the second amendment, you are a white racist who wants to use guns to control the minorities as slaves? Christians are evil but Muslims are great contributors to the world society?

      Those are all things that ignorant left wing idiots claim about conservatives. It is an insane grouping of people that has no basis in reality, science or rational considerations.

      You pathetic losers on the left want to think that everyone else is blindly following the wrong path, being led by uneducated and backward thinking leaders. Well, take a good look at the dogma that you and all your liberal buddies spew. You blindly follow the lies and misinformation being put out by your liberal leaders without thought or intelligent questioning of the truth.

      Here is the truth.
      1. Abortion is racist – the majority of abortions are performed on poor minority women. Abortion kills more black people than any other single cause of death.

      2. One man and one woman is a law of nature. Two women cannot produce offspring to continue the species. Two men cannot produce offspring to continue the species. If homosexual mindset is genetic (born homosexual) then it is a genetic mutation that cannot propagate, it will not breed true.

      3. Illegal aliens are criminals – the word ILLEGAL in the name is a big clue. If they break the immigration laws by entering our country, they are criminals and should be prosecuted and deported.

      4. Racism is universal – all segments of the human race feel an affinity to their own specific gene pool. Blacks are just as racist as whites. If a minority person says that I owe them something because they are black, Mexican, Asian, Russian, German or whatever, they are being bigoted and racist. If a person gets special treatment because they are a member of a minority it is racism.

      5. Science is not political – no scientist, that believes in scientific rules of investigation, will allow personal political views to slant their investigation and / or findings. An environmentalist is not a scientist, and a scientist should not allow environmentalism to guide their study of scientific discovery.

      6. The Muslim faith is antithetical to modern socioeconomic pursuits. The governing of the religion is in the hands of radical extremists that are at war with everyone that are not Muslim. All religions follow the leadership of that religion, so Muslims are radical extremists.

      7. Islam (Muslims) are at war with us. If Obama wants to say we are not now nor ever have been at war with Islam, that is his right. It might be possible (in liberal minds) to have a one sided war. We are not at war with Islam because we are not fighting back? The vast majority of terrorist attacks have been traced back to Muslim extremists. We have declared war on terrorism. How is it that we are at war with terrorism but not at war with Muslims?

      So, anti-abortion is against the killing of babies, not against women. Abortion is not a right, it is a choice. Pregnancy is not a disease and does not endanger the health of the mother in 99.999% of the cases. Reproductive rights is nonsense. A woman has the right to decide to not get pregnant. If she gets pregnant she has the right to have a baby. If she does not want or is incapable of caring for the baby she has the right to give it up for adoption.

      Opposing the legalization of homosexual marriage is not forcing Christian rules on everyone. Marriage has been defined as being between a man and woman for thousands of years. It is the NATURAL union of two members of the same species for the continuation of the species. This is not just a religious idea, it is a part of nature.

      Illegal aliens are breaking the law when they enter this country without going through the proper channels. There is already a “path to citizenship”, it is called following the rules.

      I am not racist because I am white. I am not in favor of slavery because I am a Christian. I am not racist because I believe in my right to bear arms.

      Scientific endeavors that are pushed, funded and focused on political agendas are not science.

      While, not all Muslims are radical, there are those that are and they are extremely dangerous. We are at war with Muslim extremists and that should be clearly stated by the government.

      And, you should really get off your soapbox about facts. I have seen an extreme amount of examples of pathetic liberals failing to ever even try to support their fanatical ideas with facts.

      • Jeff

        Frank, there are times when a page of history is worth a volume of logic. While logic may tell you that “black” and “white” are interchangeable, experience tells us this is not the case. We have a long history of institutional, official racism over and above the de facto racism so often seen. Black farmers were denied loans by the government for generations putting them at severe competitive disadvantage and driving the vast majority out of business. As a result, after years/decades of litigation, the Government reaches a settlement, and the right wingers want to jump on the remedy and call it a preference.

        Guys like you always worry about the possibility of reparations for all the wrongs done to Blacks over the years. I had a grocery clerk tell me in 2008 how “dangerous” Obama was because he was going to give all the money to the Blacks as reparations. I assumed she was nuts; little did I realize there’s lots like her. Well, affirmative action was supposed to be “reparations” for slavery and for a century or more of post-slavery discrimination. Wouldn’t you know it? The Supreme Court suddenly discovered there was racial “prejudice” when a reasonable remedy was reached. If two business men are competing and one gets wealthy by breaking the rules, thereby damaging the other’s business, when the damaged party sues, the Judge doesn’t just say “no more cheating.” He will award damages to the aggrieved party.

        That clearly never happened in the case of discrimination. All the non-Blacks who profited by Black labor got to keep their money, and the Black kids who got steered into janitorial work instead of college got screwed. Not just them but their kids and grandkids. Blacks have no wealth compared to whites because even those now earning middle class incomes have no family wealth to fall back on. I know you’ll say it’s all about the individual and not the group, but the discrimination was against all Blacks and not just against some individuals.

        If we don’t find a societal solution to this societal problem (the inner city poor), those fences around your house won’t protect you.

        • Frank Kahn

          History never replaces logic. History is not the determining factor in trying to decide if an entire nation owes something to someone. Your posturing about the way the poor blacks were treated 200 years ago does not change the fact that I am not now nor have I ever been racist. I have not personally done anything to lessen the opportunities of blacks. I don’t owe then a single red penny. I also never did anything to the American Indians, so I don’t owe them a thin dime.

          You speak about owing reparations, to an entire race of people to the end of eternity. This is the idiotic mindset of the liberal.

          They are totally without the opportunities available to whites, so we have to GIVE them everything they need to survive. Don’t evaluate their personal abilities, efforts and accomplishments before rewarding them, they are black so they deserve it. Don’t judge them for their personal choices, actions and criminal behavior, they can’t help it, they are black. If you beat up a white man it is misdemeanor assault and battery, if you beat up a black man it is a felony hate crime. Look, this white kid is a virtual genius, too bad we have to give the slot for this university to that black kid. Okay, maybe the white man is a better candidate for the job, but the law says we have to hire the minority first until we meet our quota. Those are affirmative action policies. They are extremely racist and ineffective at solving the main issue.

          Welfare, in any form is bad for the recipients. It does not foster self improvement or instill self reliance. The government giving money to any group of people, to improve their standard of living fails in the long run. You want to use history to explain why all us worthless white people owe everything to blacks? Well lets use history to show the efficacy of welfare.

          Detroit (Motor City) a shining example of a welfare city. The federal government poured millions of dollars into the economy and controlled how it was spent and what you could do. The city is now worthless. Lots of it looks like the aftermath of a major war.

          Indians (American) have been receiving reparations for over a hundred years. If they are recognized as a legitimate tribe and live on a reservation they receive free housing, utilities and get a monthly stipend. Again the government (Indian affairs) controls how the property can be used and / or improved. There is no incentive for them to improve their community on their own because it is all handled by Washington. Take a look at the majority of reservations, see the standard of living there. You will find that it is not so good, the Indians live in poorly maintained homes, and the land is not even used for gardening.

          Blacks, inner city inhabitants. Low income housing (the projects) is inhabited by mostly blacks and Mexicans. Shall we look at the living conditions there. This is an area that is called subsidized living (lots of welfare). These communities have been around for decades; is all the public assistance bringing them out of the poverty they started in? If you look in these communities what do you see? Is there an obvious effort, by the tenants, to improve the conditions there? Is it a filthy living environment? Is there rampant crime and drug use there? Do the kids strive for educational excellence there? Are they still poor because their great great grandparents were slaves? Are all the “inner city” residents victims of the failure of banks to give farm loans to black farmers? Will they suddenly be normally productive citizens if we just keep paying for all their needs for another 100 years?

          Yes, affirmative action was INTENDED to give them a boost, to raise their level of opportunity so they could climb out of poverty. Has it worked? NO! It was, and is, a social experiment that has failed in its primary objective. Should we continue to throw money at the situation, even though it is not helping improve their status?

          The failure of welfare is not confined to blacks and other minorities either. The old welfare system, that white women used, was a failure. It paid for the needs of single mothers, to help house and feed the children. It never had any incentives for self improvement. If they just kept having babies every couple years they could keep getting free money. Not every woman, every case was caused by lazy or greedy thoughts, but there were lots of abuses.

          If you want to help the blacks (minorities) to improve their station in life, you need to give them something that provides incentives to work towards achieving goals. Show them the benefits they can receive if they study hard and work hard to better their abilities. Help them LEARN in school with tutoring or group counseling. Help them clean up their communities (help not do). Stop teaching them that the white man is the enemy, make friends so cooperation is possible. Racism will never go away, but it can be reduced if both sides stop blaming the other side for the problems in society.

          So, once again, I say, don’t tell me I owe you something because of what happened 200 or even 60 years ago. I was not even born then, and I have not personally participated in any of those actions. If you need help, ask for it, I will try my best to help.

  • Fedup

    Finally, a liberal that “get’s it!”

    • http://www.facebook.com/CapitalistAtBirth Greg Murphy

      Who is the liberal of which you speak?

  • jdn

    People believe that when all are mandated to pay taxes for the privilege of health care , when every facet of ones life is taxed and controlled , when foods and drinks are banned and taxed for our own good , when the largest employer in the nation has become the government itself and no longer GE or GM that we have sunk to the depths of tyranny .
    I say look to Detroit where local Authorities are rounding up homeless and driving them outside city limits in the dark of night and dropping them off in the middle of nowhere . Tent cities in California that are leveled and all that a person has left in life is turned under by a bulldozer . Those are the true signs of tyranny . Absurd taxes and an over bloated government may foster revolution as was in the past but it is the treatment of our neediest people at the hands of those who profess benevolence and progress that should be alarming .

    • Michael Shreve

      What is MOST alarming, is that it is the SAME people. The Democrat, liberal, progressive, communist who have USURPED power and are DESTROYING the constitution. Worse, they have managed this because WE THE PEOPLE have ACCEPTED their little compromises for generations. The clock MUST be reset.

  • boyscout

    In Boston we have recently witness the present spirit of Lexington and Concord and it does not bode well for revolution (at least not in the North East.) “They” and “Them” are questionable terms brandished by “both” (HAHAHAHA) sides of the aisle. NOBODY wants to turn this country into a dictatorship! – the oligarchy that is in charge will have none of that. Choose from column A or from column B and you will be dished (actually dissed) the same mush on a different patterned plate.

  • Michael Shreve

    The U.S. Constitution was conceived with the ASSUMPTION that citizens might need to defend themselves from a tyrannical government as much as foreign invaders. Today our government INVITES foreign invasion and oppressed the citizen. When citizens do not FEEL free they may be inspired to take action, however violent, to secure freedom.

  • M

    Ammo box? Homeland has all the ammo. Ammo stores in MN have any shotgun you want but rifle and pistol are gone.

  • Ken

    I work 50 hours a week to feed myself and my family. I’m not working to support some drug addict bum who is too lazy or too stupid to find work for himself. Obama wants everyone to feed from his hand. I will not!

  • Average_Joe56

    It can’t happen here….

    Anyone who can watch this video and not understand that we are on the precipice of a major event as a nation…is either delusional, in denial, a government hack or a paid shill (I can see no other reasoning’s possible).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
    Please watch and share.

    AJ

  • mark

    All this from Thomas Hypocrite Jefferson – a coward who pontificated endlessly and pompously about freedom while he personally robbed the freedom of human beings he held power over. And in fact personally raped some of them. What a thoroughly loathesome man and monumental racist – a perfect hero for the modern Tea Party.

    • JeffH

      Speaking of blah, blah, blah…Falsy’s got nothin’ on you mark, mark, mark!

  • wyatt81

    The leftist troll comments on this site prove they are proud members of the dumbest, blindest, most self satisfied, and spineless generation in history.