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Letter Reveals That BP, Halliburton Knew About Cement Problems Before Gulf Spill

November 5, 2010 by  

Letter reveals that BP, Halliburton knew about cement problems before Gulf spillThe lead investigator in the government's probe of the Gulf oil disaster said that BP and contractor Halliburton knew about the potential flaws in the oil well months before the spill.

According to media reports, Fred Bartlit Jr. wrote a letter to the National Commission on the BP Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill and Offshore Drilling and said that tests on a cement slurry in February showed instability. Despite both companies having the data, they proceeded to use a similar slurry to stabilize the well on April 19 and 20.

On April 20, the rig exploded, killing 11 workers and causing the worst oil spill in United States history. U.S. Representative Edward Markey (D-Mass.) responded to the letter by calling on the Federal oil spill commission to get full subpoena power and requested that BP CEO Bob Dudley agree to testify before Congress.

"The fact that BP and Halliburton knew this cement job could fail only solidifies their liability and responsibility for this disaster," Markey said in a written statement, quoted by CNN. "This is like building a car when you know the brakes could fail, but you sell the cars anyway."

Early in October, the oil spill commission released a report that said President Barack Obama and his administration failed to act upon or fully inform the public about the worst-case spill estimates, according to The New York Times. The report found that the administration's inaccurate approximations resulted in a slower response effort.

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  • Kinetic1

    Well, it’s a good thing we got ahold of this information before the new congress steps in. With Rep. Joe Barton of Texas, the man who apologized to BP for the way they were treated, looking like the next majority leader of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, we can only imagine the effort to keep this quiet. Is there something wrong with allowing a former ARCO (now BP) executive to head up this committee? Does it matter that he continues to receive more money from big oil than any other representative?

  • Doc Sarvis

    Another illustration that large companies are after large profits above everything else including human safty and environmental health. If we had more environmental and safty regulation this disaster could have been avoided. Of course there is a balance that must be had but those who shout we have too much regulation of business should think again. What a horrible and preventable event.

    • Vigilant

      Regulate, regulate, regulate. That’s always the answer, isn’t it? As I hear so often on this site, be careful what you wish for.

      How convenient that no one has mentioned that it was the environmentalist wackos who pushed those rigs far offshore, resulting in an vastly increased difficulty to clean up and cap. But that was “regulation,” so I guess it’s OK, huh?

      It was to be expected that, as soon as Halliburton was mentioned, the consummate Bush-Cheney haters would come out like cockroaches to feast. Sorry, the mantra doesn’t carry weight any more.

      • Robert Smith

        From Vigilant: (regulate) “That’s always the answer, isn’t it?”

        So what is the answer? Blabber, blabber, blabber, but no answers.

        Well, come up with one.

        As far as the former VP and stock holder of Halliburten and his presidential buddy who came up with the no bid contracts for them, Blackwater, and a bunch of others…

        How can you REALLY complain about those who think of them as treasnious crooks?

        Rob

        Bot

        • Vigilant

          You blatheredL “From Vigilant: (regulate) “That’s always the answer, isn’t it?”

          “So what is the answer? Blabber, blabber, blabber, but no answers.

          “Well, come up with one.”

          Well sir, if you had half a brain, you’d understand that the answer to harmful and economically deleterious regulation is: de-regulate. No real conservative believes in complete de-regulation, although you wouldn’t know it to read the sweepingly general posts by leftist idiots. What we believe in is regulate where necessary, de-regulate where necessary. The left is too dense to recognize that there is good regulation and bad regulation. The concept seems too complex for them.

          The response to environmentalist wacko legislation in the Gulf was to move the rigs out so far from the coast that quick and decisive action in case of a blow-out tragedy became almost impossible, and the BP debacle proved that in spades.

          It has been the over-regulation and over-taxation of corporations, aided and abetted by completely ridiculous union demands, that have pushed jobs out of this country, NOT the GOP or conservatism. How laughable that you idiots are being duped into believing that, when it’s your own comrades in arms who are doing it to you.

          • Robert Smith

            From Vigilant: “What we believe in is regulate where necessary, de-regulate where necessary.”

            And deregulation would have prevented the oil spill how?

            Seems to me it’s like saying fewer guards will protect a bank better or eliminating our military will make America invincible.

            Bob

          • Denniso

            The information on the cement job illustrates why we can’t just trust big corporations to do what’s right…isn’t it obvious? They are under monetary competition and biz pressures which often leads to cutting corners like what apparently happened here.
            Corporations use the little people on the right to fight against gov’t involvement and regulation of their businesses,which isn’t at all surprising,but it is wrong for the country.

          • Robert Smith

            Hi Dinisso,

            I can’t help but wonder why folks on the right don’t realize just how much they are fronting for corporations.

            Or maybe they are being paid by big business because the stakes are so high for them and it’s getting more and more difficult to screw Americans because there is so much information out there.

            Rob

          • Denniso

            Robert, I’ve though and talked about the question for decades. I’ve come to the conclusion that…some of the rightwing are under-educated,some are just not smart,some are simply fooled and the remaining know exactly what they are doing in being used by corporate America. The ones who know think that big biz should run the country because they believe that business people are better at running things and they also want America to be run like a for profit business.

        • kenneth

          Oh an the Democrats have all the answers don’t they. If that would be right in the case of regulation why is it that while Democrats were committee chairs of our Housing and Finance did we end up having the worse collapse then anyone could ever imagine. Now this would be after the Republicans told Barney (poster child of regulation for the Democrats) by way of the president(Bush), and Alan Greenspan (head of the Fed)that there was for sure a collapse going to occur, and your brother Barney says that they were just making up things. He compared it to crying wolf when ever something was going right and they wanted it to stop. Stop what? The fleasing of our banks and of the economic future of America. There is your idea of regulating. It isn’t about so much making the world safe as it is about pushing government’s hand into controlling everything good or bad, so you can push your idealogy of control on everyone. This one well went bad out of how many that they have gotten right? Is there something to learn from the well. Yes! Get the hell out of their way so they can drill in areas that won’t risk people’s lives and our environment. More damage is done to our environment from natural causes (from the environmentalist perspective of what is damage by man) then what man has done trying to produce energy so you can have the life style you have to day. I am just glad at this point the government isn’t the appointed regulator of that part of our world, but I am sure you are trying to find away to do that too aren’t you? Can you say cap and trade.

  • James Link

    What difference does it make, if no one DOES anything about it…….MAYBE our “NEW” Congress will.

    • Robert Smith

      Hi James,

      The inspectors were baught and paid for long before Obama came on the scene.

      Rob

  • http://yahoo Slippery Lube

    Bp is not the former Arco Kinutz. It was Standard Oil of Ohio, called Sohio, and when it built the Alaska pipe line, it sold out to BP, British Petroleum. Arco, Atlantic Richfield, is not the parent company of BP, and is probably one tenth the size of BP. By cover up, you must mean Nobama covering up his story, SINCE HE ALREADY DID !!

    You liberals are so blinded by hate you turn a story around and accuse
    the GOP of a crime, Your President is already committing ??

    • Kinetic1

      BP bought out ARCO in 2000. I apologize if I implied that ARCO had become BP, but the point remains. A former executive of a company that is now owned by BP, a man who apologized because the Obama administration was to hard on these criminals who killed 11 men and despoiled our coastline, is poised to step in into a position of leadership in overseeing the oil industry. If anything, Obama was to quick to trust that BP would step up and take responsibility for their failure, but not in the eyes of ol’ Texas Joe! Nope. there’s one man who knows who butters his bread.

  • http://yahoo Slippery Lube

    I didn’t already comment ?? What are you talking about ???

  • Peter

    I can not believe this. This story on a GOP-pleasing website is an utter hypocrisy! I am neither GOP nor liberal, but a concerned Christian who values the ever decreasing merit of truth.
    The writer here, the owner of this website and most of the contributors here are absolute GOP groupies, where the power of small government and freedom of the corporate world to do as it pleases is absolute in your minds.
    How is it then that the owner of this website rails continuously against big pharma for their evils…and I agree with him, they are evil, no doubt in my mind about that.
    But this website claims to be conservative, pro-GOP and pro-corporate power and freedom!
    Then he allows this (correct in my mind) tirade against the evils committed by BP and Haliburton on the gulf oil spill…a spill that was caused by the fact corporations have for so long been able to make their own rules? And please do NOT insult my intelligence by trying to tell me it’s BO’s fault! I do not like BO, but I call a spade a spade, and this is a shovel full of BS!
    Since BO came to power, love him or loathe him, he has had to deal with many conflicting interests, including those of the GOP government members snapping at his heels. This has prevented him and his advisers from truly addressing the evil greed of the corporate world as they should have been dealt with. This is why people power has come out so heavily against the simplistic approach of big govt for the sake of it, and not supported the ‘intention’ of that big govt. I honestly wish someone in power somewhere in the western world would have the simple gonads to actually DO what they say they’re going to do, and not be led astray by compromising interests and lobbyists. I may not believe in everything BO stands for, but I wish he would stand for what he says he stands for! GW Bush said he stood for ‘truth, justice and the American way’, and claimed he was a Christian, just like BO, but they BOTH have displayed the most un-Christian characteristics imaginable! BO by sucking up to the homosexual lobby and pro-choicer’s, and the shrub by sucking up to the corporate world, letting their greed cause the GFC and robbing Americans of their livelihoods! He also let Haliburton have everything they wanted in Iraq…for free! He is truly more evil than BO, and dead-eye Dicky Cheney is absolutely satan incarnate, who pulled the shrub’s puppet strings.
    Go figure.

    • Robert Smith

      From Peter: “but they BOTH have displayed the most un-Christian characteristics imaginable! BO by sucking up to the homosexual lobby and pro-choicer’s, and the shrub by sucking up to the corporate world, letting their greed cause the GFC and robbing Americans of their livelihoods!”

      Let’s see if I have your perspective correctly…

      You believe that Bush was “un-christian” because he sucked up to the corporate world and basicly stealing the American dream and causing the worst recession since the great depression.

      And you are opposed to Obama because he agrees with the Constitution of the United States that ALL Americans should be treated equally including gays, and because he doesn’t bringing in the (alleged) pro-life dictates (usually based in religion).

      Is that about it?

      You are putting a thief in the same catigory as someone who is following the American Constitution by not injecting religion into his advocacy from the oval office.

      BTW, how can anyone call themselves “pro-life” and not support universal health care for ALL AMERICANS? (I don’t include illegals as Americans. That’s a separate issue.)

      Rob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        BTW,
        how can a person be for the death of millions of innocent babies over a twenty year period and against the death penalty for some of the most hienous criminals society has ever seen??? See, I can play word games, too!

        • http://naver samurai

          What? Rob says that Obama bin Laden agrees with the Constitution? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Now that’s a pretty funny joke, there Rob! I think you need to be the guest star on the Tonight Show and tell that to Jay Leno. Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          Form Joe: “how can a person be for the death of millions of innocent babies over a twenty year period”

          Very simple: It ain’t necessarily a baaaayyyyyybbbbbeeeee. And, if it is how can you justify it taking 100% if its needs (save the one sacred sperm) from an individual who doesn’t want to give? Drawing nourishment and using her sex organs without her permission! How can you justify such unlawful taking and yet still be opposed to taxes?

          Joe asks: “against the death penalty for some of the most hienous criminals society has ever seen???”

          Don’t know how anyone justifies such, just as you claim to be pro-life and at the same time deliberately kill born people. BTW, for the worst I’m in favor of the death penalty. We don’t need to support them for the rest of their lives and and it’s excellent to stop recidivism.

          Rob

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry, but a baby is considered a human life at the time of conception and not when they are born. If you have so little sympathy for an innocent human life, then I hate to see if you have children. If you do have them, I hope that they didn’t grow up an bombastic ignorant person like you. Abortion is wrong in the eyes of God. You claim it is legal, but just because something is legal does not make it right. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Robert Smith

            From sook young: “Sorry, but a baby is considered a human life at the time of conception and not when they are born.”

            Depends on which religion one is part of. Remember, America dosn’t have a state religion so yours isn’t taking over anytime soon.

            “If you have so little sympathy for an innocent human life, then I hate to see if you have children.”

            Got a really good one.

            “If you do have them, I hope that they didn’t grow up an bombastic ignorant person like you.”

            Another insult rather than information. How christian of you sook…

            “Abortion is wrong in the eyes of God.”

            So? Your god. Others follow different gods.

            “You claim it is legal,”

            Yup, sure is, as it has been.

            “but just because something is legal does not make it right.”

            Tell us again how verbally assulting women at clinics is “right?”

            Rob

  • http://yahoo Slippery Lube

    BO wanted the job, Biden said there would be problems, part of the deal. I can see you don’t own a business from this line .

    …a spill that was caused by the fact corporations have for so long been able to make their own rules?

    What planet you live on?? quit paying your payroll taxes for a week and all hell will rain down on you.

    • Kinetic1

      Yes, they have made their own rules. It started long before Bush 2, but he is famous as an example of those who believe that industry should be allowd to regulate themselves. The BP disaster and the information now coming to light should be proof enough that, despite the “logic” behind the idea that businesses will not risk anything that would hurt their customers, the bottom line is number 1.

      Remember the Cheaney energy summit? We still don’t know for certain who attended. We still don’t know for certain who helped write our energy policy, but we do know that it favors the oil and coal industries. We, and by we I mean our government allowed industry to tell us what would work best. We trusted them to keep our best interest in mind and then placed industry insiders in oversight positions in our government. And not just insiders, but attorneys and others who’s previous job had been to fight government regulations in favor of industry! Talk about the fox running the hen house!

      I agree with those who feel that the Obama administration did not act fast enough or with enough control, but then again our government is not equipped to do much in these cases. Sure, we have regulations and inspectors, but as noted above they are often insufficient and in the pocket of the very industry they are supposed to watch. BP and Haliburton were supposed to be responsible in the construction of their rig. They were supposed to have the emergency plans and equipment to take care of situations like this. They failed to live up to our trust and our inspectors failed to insure their compliance with our regulations. So, even if the administration jumped to action sooner, what were they supposed to do? Unlike Norway, our government doesn’t have a fleet of ships ready to take over in case of a major spill. We depend on the oil industry to be responsible stewards. We are fools.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Boundup1,
        Yup, we don’t have a fleet, but there was a good sized fleet ready to help but nobummer wouldn’t sign a temporary order to let them work in
        US waters with foreign crews! Had he done so they would have skimmed, keeping the crude from reaching the shore! So, Hell Yes, I would say it was Nobummers fault!!!

        • Robert Smith

          From Joe: ” we don’t have a fleet, but there was a good sized fleet ready to help”

          Really? Who was that?

          Rob

          • http://?? Joe H.

            There were tanker ships and skimmers standing off the coast of the US that couldn’t work US waters because of not having American crews. nobummer could have signed a temporary order but wouldn’t making it impossible!!! those tankers could have been converted very easily to skimmers, the Kuwatiis do it all the time and the sheer volume they could hold would have stopped the oil from reaching the shore! There were offers from them, too!!

          • Claire

            Joe H — I remember the offers for help that were not accepted. This administration sure botched the job right along with BP. I will never forgive them for the harm they have done. And now they act like it was “nothing.” And they exepct the American people to forget this mishandling? I will never forget. No Way.

          • Robert Smith

            From Clair: ” I remember the offers for help that were not accepted.”

            Please, tell us about them, or wasn’t Rush specific.

            Rob

          • Claire

            Robert Smith– Within 3 days, Obama received offers for tankers, but due to the Jones Act, (I hope I am right on that) he did not accept. I remember thinking at that time, to hell with that law or whatever, get the tankers, take the help and assistance.
            And don’t shove “Rush” down my throat, I have never liked Rush, everyone on this site should know that by now. I do not care for any of the talk show hosts. I do not conduct my life and way of thinking based on what talk show hosts say.

          • Claire

            Robert Smith– Now you started it. Yes, I am angry about this unnecessary oil spill. BP did a lousy job of conducting their work, didn’t check on the machinery like they should have, and did not have the wherewithal to prevent this disaster. Why in hell were they drilling if they couldn’t maintain safety measures and proper equipment to prevent a disaster such as this? And no, I do not put much faith in oil companies. I never have, I never trusted them. They are all out for a fast buck, a quick and easy profit regardless of any consequences. Obama and his administration dragged their feet. It was like they didn’t know what the heck to do. And all the while, the Gulf was being damaged. Don’t try and tell me this administration was on the ball. They weren’t. If it were me, I would have been busy on Day One, and would have done everything imaginable to prevent further disaster. Sure, things take time, BUT if BP had been properly prepared, it would not have turned into this awful mess. Plus the fact any administration SHOULD be prepared to do whatever MUST be done to prevent catastrophes like this or any other. Help was offered in the beginning, and it should have been taken. Numerous foreign countries offered assistance. Now marine life has been damaged, jobs, the people that live there, tourism trade, the beaches, and now they are trying to tell us the fish, shrimp, crab, clams are okay to eat. How in the name of GOD can that be? Sorry, but I am tired of the lies, they never seem to stop.

          • Robert Smith

            Hi Claire,

            Here is the Jones Act:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920

            I don’t see how it relates. Can you explain it to me?

            Rob

          • Claire

            Robert Smith– I knew you would call me out on this. But I won’t backpeddle. It seems like it had something to do with the crews of men-there would be conflict of some sort. I certainly remember hearing the “Jones Act” being discussed and Obama would not bypass this act. And I remember thinking why not. All I know is that discussion of the subject suggested it should have been bypassed in order to help the oil spill situation. I heard it on the news. Do you remember anything about this Act being discussed during this catastrophe?

          • Robert Smith

            I have no idea how the an act written so long ago applies.

            AGAIN, can you show us? I’ve found the act, I’ve skimmed a bunch of it, and I don’t find anything that remotely applies.

            Please, look at the law and see if you can figure out what Obama did wrong, if anything, because I certainly see nothing in it.

            It is my beliefe that the right wing blabers never thought anyone would actually look it up and made up their own translation.

            Rob

          • Claire

            Robert Smith– Dang! I am trying to remember all that was said about the Jones Act in relation to the oil spill. I am repeating myself but I heard it on TV, and it had something to do with not having the proper crews or no crews/workers in accordance with this Act, therefore nothing could be accomplished. I read your link, but like you, I really couldn’t come up with a definitive answer/reasoning either. Didn’t you hear anything about this at the time, if so, what did you hear? Now I am picking your brain.

          • Claire

            Robert Smith– I re-read Joe H’s post–and his comments sounds exactly what I heard.

  • talk radio listener

    GO PETER!!! I agree with your assessment here…especially about Cheney pulling the shrub’s strings. Another evil incarnate I would include here is Rumsfeld the then CEO of Searle who manufactured aspartame, who managed to get Reagan to push through the legalization of aspartame, which was a KNOWN CARCINOGEN when tested on the rats. These guys, only had the de-population of the world in their sites. They’ve been putting it in everything, even gum and medicines, and cookies and cereals, as well as many other food products. It actually causes obesity, not stops it, and precipitates diabetes. This is why we have a DIABETES EPIDEMIC in the country. After Reagan/Rumsfeld had fired those in the FDA who would not approve it, they put into place their own people who would approve it. Just go to Dr. Betty Martini, and check out what neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock says about aspartame. Government is a sham when they can literally order the deaths of people by giving them a terrible substance unknowingly. Check your labels people. They now call it AMINO SWEET to ward off the nay sayers. Let’s get it OFF THE MARKET!! Watch out for those vaccines as well.

    • Vigilant

      I see you’re another conspiracy theorist.

      Aspartame? Known carcinogen? “It actually causes obesity, not stops it, and precipitates diabetes. This is why we have a DIABETES EPIDEMIC in the country.”

      No, sorry to burst your bubble. High fructose corn syrup, supersize portions of everything and sedentary lifestyle are the major culprits. 100 years ago, people worked at physically-demanding jobs in this country, ate cholesterol-laden meats, lard, butter, eggs, whole milk, etc., and heart disease/cancer were very small, as was diabetes.

      Today, relative affluence and pussy jobs, videogames and couch potato syndrome, along with processed foods, have created a population of obese, disease-ridden folks. Don’t look at aspartame, look no further than yourself.

      • Robert Smith

        Vigilant says about formaldehyde: “Known carcinogen?”

        Yup, the evidence is stacking up that formaldehyde causes cancer.

        And, in aspertain where heat liberates the formaldehyde it tastes absolutely awful.

        Rob

  • http://com i41

    I guess we can all thank Whorehound Willie and he green airy fairys, for convoluting the income loss off of drilling in deep water. Now Onumnutts gave Mexico a few billion to go and drill in the same area. What a brillant marxist muslim plan. That kind of oil feild work as well as any mechanical work is a long shot at breakdowns and material flaws. Those photo ops sure helped with the blow out and remember the b–l s–t of ruined ecosystems and blah,blah, blah. There is oil leaking all the time you pee brained idoits, plus wasting how many million for the Nobel Prize overeducated dumazz summit that accomplished nothing!

    • Kinetic1

      This is one of my major complaints about the right wing media. An exaggeration of facts, a misinterpretation or a blatant lie is put out by someone like Breitbart, it’s picked up by Rush, Hannity, Beck or any number of other talking heads and spread about as confirmed fact, and then, no matter how many times the information is debunked, people like you continue to spew it out. Neither President Obama or his administration gave ANY money to Mexico for oil drilling. The money comes from the American Import/Export Bank. They are not controlled by the President or congress and the money they loan does not come from our tax dollars. The closest they come to being controlled by our government is that the president appoints the board. In this case, the head of the board at the time of the decision to loan this money was an appointee of Bush, so even if you want to make the link to the White House, it’s the wrong one.

      While we’re on the subject, what is with this BS about our spending $200 million a day to send the President and his entourage to Asia? One unsubstantiated report form an Indian news source makes wild claims about the size and cost of a presidential trip and the next thing you know Michelle Bachman is on FOX, outraged at the waste. Aren’t there any standards anymore? Shouldn’t politicians and pundits do a little research before spouting off “facts” like these?

      According to Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell, “The Obama India trip will definitely cost several million dollars a day. Whenever presidents travel, they take along a large portion of the White House with them. This is not only to ensure that they continue working while away from the office but to address any major issues that come up during the trip. Most of the cost of any trip is actually for security for the President, and on trips such as this, media organizations pay their own way – with a no fax payday loan if necessary. In short, the Obama India trip isn’t going to cost U.S. taxpayers any more or less than a usual international trip for the president.”

      Was it so hard to get the facts? Now that we have them, will the talking heads, bloggers and congressional nut jobs stop spreading these lies? If recent history is any indicator, the answer is no. Oh, they may mention the official response, but I guaranty it will be followed by innuendo about the White Houses’ failure to give hard figures and how that just proves their point.

      • Vigilant

        Kinetic:

        “The closest they come to being controlled by our government is that the president appoints the board.”

        Doesn’t get much closer, does it?

        • Robert Smith

          Yup, ties it right to Bush, who did the appointing.

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            And Wall Street is controlled by Obama bin Laden, who by the way most of his appointees came from. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • eddie47d

    You said nothing i41 that we haven’t heard before.Your mental checkup is long overdue and I advise you to run to the nearest clinic pronto. You are one of those who blame everybody else except for the parties directly involved. More duck and cover to make the wrong doers look good. Some may think you are smooth but you have many jagged edges ready and willing to cut anybody who gets in you’re way. You are one of those who blamed the environmentalists for sabotaging the BP Horizon even though there wasn’t one shred of evidence. A few others said Obama sent his team down there and deliberately did damage. Honesty! You don’t have a clue. We might as well go deep sea diving in the middle of the Pacific Ocean to see if we can find some.

  • Dale on left coast

    Was it the cement that caused the two 25 tonne shut-off devices to fail???? Not likely . . .
    They have recovered these from the sea floor . . . looking forward to the reasons as to why they both failed.
    We know why the Bamster failed . . . he waited two months . . . hoping it would go away, but clueless is as clueless does. The oil could have been mostly skimmed before it hit shore if the clown in the WH had taken action.
    Evil oil companies . . . drilled over 30,000 holes . . . one has a problem and the loonies come out of the woodwork.

  • kilrntex

    Halliburton only recommends a slurry to the operator to be used in cementing a well and the operator(BP) either approves or disapproves it. Halliburton is the best in the world at creating cement slurries to seal off a wellbore and would never sacrifice their integrity knowingly to do any job for anyone just to get the work. BP is liable for all damages for this spill. Obama’s liars and thieves are going after Halliburton because they hate Cheney so much and would do anything to discredit him or Bush. Any Real American for that matter! The election is over and now the cleanup is beginning, the cleanup of the dems mess in our country. Obama should be impeached and the rest of the scum still in office should be prosecuted as traitors. That will never happen as we all know, but it would be best for the country. This is a Christian nation and the Repubs need to make that clear to the rest of the world. We will not compromise or back down to anyone.

    • Kinetic1

      This isn’t the first cement failure attributed to Haliburton. In fact, Halliburton is currently under investigation by the Australian government for a massive blowout in the Timor Sea in 2005 caused by its faulty application of concrete casing.

      Why would you come to the defense of a company with the record of corruption associated with Haliburton? Since when is it “American” to defraud the government, build faulty structures that kill our soldiers, or send civilians into war zones in violation of military law? Yes, many of us believe that former Vice President Cheaney is culpable in many of Haliburton’s illegal activities and would like to see him brought up on charges, but that is not why we are going after Haliburton. Even if they had nothing to do with the former administration, they would still be a corrupt corporation, deserving of our nation’s scorn.

      • Robert Pa.

        File a 670 “TRILLION” dollar law action and chapter 7 BP,Haliburton etc.
        in “The Public Interest”. It’s time we real in some of these roans once and for all. If i did these things, i would be in the “Razor Wire Farm” for several thousand years.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Boundup1,
        Care to be a little more specific about your remark on sending civillians into a war zone?? They have been sending civillians into war zones since WW2 and probably before that! Reporters ARE civillian, Tech support is Civillian. I can remember Bell Helicopter sending civillian tech support to VietNam to correct a problem they were having with hueys !What the hell do you think Air America was over there?

        • eddie47d

          There has been a tremendous increase in civilian use and especially so in Iraq. I read that 50% of those working for our government in Iraq have been civilians.Seems very odd.

          • Robert Smith

            The Bush administration set up a catered war.

            That keeps our troops on the front lines far more than in any other war. That’s part of why they are having so many problems there and when they return home. It’s a disgusting misuse of our military.

            Rob

        • Kinetic1

          Sure, I’m glad to do the research for you and I don’t even need to call you names!
          Bloomburg news
          “Lawyers for the drivers claim that on April 8 and April 9, 2004, civilian fuel convoys were sent down highways the military had declared “closed” because of active combat conditions.”
          In other words, KBR/Haliburton violated military orders, thus risking the lives of their drivers.

          “On April 9, 2004, Fisher and another worker, Reginald Lane, were driving KBR fuel trucks in two convoys traveling in different directions on Baghdad’s “Sword” Highway. Each man’s convoy was attacked by Iraqi insurgents wielding rocket-fired grenades and machine guns in the same five-mile stretch where troops had fought for two days, according to court filings.” “Several of the tankers exploded and the road became “a killing zone,” according to Allen. KBR continued to send additional convoys down the highway, lawyers for victims claim. Fisher, 43, was killed and Lane, now 57, sustained massive brain damage.”
          So, even after they knew that it was a suicide mission, with no military support, they sent their trucks in unarmed.

          These weren’t news men imbedded in a military unit. Nor were these men hired soldiers. These were civilian truck drivers. This is just one more failure of the Bush administration and their decision to use private corporations to do the work of our military.

          Now I would be remiss if I failed to tell Haliburton’s side, so…
          “KBR’s managers were required to follow military orders and send civilian convoys to deliver fuel to troops fighting enemy forces near Baghdad’s airport in April and October of 2004, the company said in court filings. KBR could have faced “liability for breach of contract, fines and possible imprisonment” had it stopped the convoys, KBR’s attorney James Hall of Jones Day in Houston said last month in a motion to dismiss Lane’s lawsuit.”

          They lost that motion, in part due to their own contract.
          “The company’s contract, signed in December 2001, specifically forbids placing civilians in combat situations, attorney Fibich said in the drivers’ Aug. 4 response to Halliburton’s motion to dismiss Lane’s case. The contract also states that “civilian contractor personnel shall not be supervised or directed by military or Dept. of the Army personnel,” Fibich said, quoting from the contract.
          And their own memos didn’t help their case either…
          “There is not one thing that we do that is worth injury to an employee,” states a Jan. 22, 2003, memo from John Downey, a KBR unit manager in charge of the company’s military support contract. “Each of you has my personal authority to stop any activity which you believe to be unsafe,”

          Happy now?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Boundup1
            now do you honestly think your first post says the same thing as your second?? If you do, then you are boundup!!

        • Robert Smith

          You’ve really stretched the notion of “civilian.”

          Air America was an American passenger and cargo airline established in 1950 and covertly owned and operated by the Central Intelligence Agency ‘s (CIA) Special Activities …

          Air America’s slogan was “Anything, Anywhere, Anytime, Professionally”. That included drugs, animals, and people during the final evacuation of ‘Nam.

          Rob

    • Robert Smith

      Frim kilrntex: “This is a Christian nation…”

      NO it isn’t. That would be against our Constitution.

      It is coincidence that there are a lot of christians in America, thus making a large part of America “christian.” But even christians don’t agree.

      Bishop Spong has been doing commitment cerimonies for gays for decades. Other religions have in their high ranks gays. So, are they christians? They believe so. There is even an organization “Catholics for a free choice.” They are at:
      Catholics for Choice
      1436 U Street NW, Suite 301
      Washington, DC 20009-3997
      USA
      To contact us via phone, please call:
      Office: +1 (202) 986-6093

      So, who are “christians”? I like to those who respect the rest of us. I don’t like those who are willing to resort to killing BORN people like Dr. Teller. For me it’s a simple choice.

      Rob

      • Vigilant

        “So, who are “christians”? I like to those who respect the rest of us. I don’t like those who are willing to resort to killing BORN people like Dr. Teller. For me it’s a simple choice.”

        I assume you think UNBORN people don’t deserve life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

        Put it on the scale, great “worshiper of life:” The justifiable homicide of one BORN person against thousands of unjustifiably murdered UNBORN persons.

        And it wasn’t “Teller.” It was “Tiller the baby killer.” It was done in Kansas with the blessing of Sibelius, and included late term partial birth abortions of fully gestated babies who could live outside the womb without incubation or other aids. Neither Tiller nor those who supported his wanton acts of murder deserve one ounce of respect. He was of amd among the lowest scum on earth.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          vigilant,
          Was it townhall that told the story of the brave girl that DID indeed, live through a late term abortion?? I believe it was a saline type abortion. she is now, I believe, 18 ans is going strong!!! She would be dead if not for a nurse that wrapped her up after the attempted murder, as this brave young woman calls it, and gave her comfort and warmth. when the Dr. came in later and she was still alive, he had to give her care as she was alive AND a human being!! So please people don’t tell me that these children could have never lived outside the woumb!!! and to those of you that say the ability to live outside the woumb should be the deciding factor, then when they have progressed medicine to the point that a human can live outside the woumb from conception, does that mean there won’t be any more physician assisted murders of children???

          • Robert Smith

            Another made up story from the extreme reich.

            Places and dates, please. Otherwise you simply are yammering another pro-life myth that offers red meat to the mentally susceptable.

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Robert, all you have to do is google for the info and it’ll be there, moron. This arguement about legallized murder is getting old so stop it now, I mean now, moron. Every site you always come up with this abortion topic. I hate to tell you rob, but there is legislation before Congress that will make it harder to get an abortion. There are two pieces of legislation going on now, one of the Congressmen that started this was Joe Donnelly (D) of Indiana’s 2nd district. Ask your representative about it. I forsee it passing, since there are many new patriots in office. Soon abortion will be a thing of the past, then you’ll have nothing to write about. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            It won’t pass the Senate and it will certainly get a VETO.

            So much for your dream.

            Rob

        • Robert Smith

          Well, Vigilant presumes again. Interesting how he attempts to define another. Let’s watch: “I assume you think UNBORN people don’t deserve life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.”

          IF they are “people” I might, if I could get over the issue of them not necessarily having to use a woman’s reproductive organs against her will. I call that rape and consider it OK for a woman who is being raped to defend herself. Don’t you, Vigilant?

          And, don’t you object to those who TAKE without permission?

          Vigilant says: “And it wasn’t “Teller.” It was “Tiller the baby killer.”

          Actually it wasn’t according to the LAWS of that allegedly “christian” nation you seem to lay claim to. He was a BORN person who had done no crime except by your religious belief. In America we don’t allow religious nuts to kill people no matter how much their gawwwwwd tells them to.

          Let’s see what this is: “It was done in Kansas with the blessing of Sibelius,…”

          From http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles_of_faith/2009/03/sebelius_pick_d.html: “Catholics United immediately leapt to Sebelius’s defense, setting up a Catholics for Sebelius web site, and declaring, “The governor has had disagreements over public policy with leaders in her Church. Yet their disagreement has never been over the morality of abortion, but over what prudential policy is best in dealing with abortion in Kansas.” Among the 26 signatories to the group’s statement of support for Sebelius are many from Massachusetts, including Boston College theology professors Lisa Sowle Cahill, Rev. David Hollenbach and Rev. Thomas J. Massaro; College of the Holy Cross professor David O’Brien; Steve Krueger, the former executive director of Voice of the Faithful; Jerome Maryon, the president of the lay committee on Contemporary Spiritual & Public Concerns at St. Paul’s Parish in Cambridge, and Dr. Patrick Whelan, a Boston physician who is president of Catholic Democrats. Faith in Public Life issued a similar statement of support from moderate evangelical leaders and others, declaring, “As Christians dedicated to finding common ground solutions to reduce the number of abortions in America, we welcome President Obama’s nomination of Governor Kathleen Sebelius as Secretary of Health and Human Services.”

          So, like I said, WHO are christians? Those who allow choice for Americans no matter how much it is against the rules for themselves… OR Those are true Americans respecting that all are not their version of religion.

          Would you stand to eat kosher because another organization thingks it’s the proper thing to do? There are all sorts of health reasons for a kosher diet that could save lives in America, yet you allow those to spiritually die because they aren’t on a healthy died. In the eyes of those who eat a kosher diet it’s OK for those not of the faith to eat the way they do. They CHOOSE to eat incorrectly.

          And now for the BIG lie: “and included late term partial birth abortions of fully gestated babies who could live outside the womb without incubation or other aids.”

          ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Later term abortions are for severe health reasons of the mother or a non-viable fetus that will eventually rot inside of her. These are overwhelmingly WANTED pregnancies that have gone horribly wrong.

          “Neither Tiller nor those who supported his wanton acts of murder deserve one ounce of respect. He was of amd among the lowest scum on earth.”

          Actually he was a life saving doctor for the pregnant women.

          Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Rob, you lie like a rug! This is a Christian nation! This country was built upon Judeo-Christian beliefs. Our laws based upon Biblical law directly from the old and new testiments. Even our Christian founding fathers would disagree with you, moron!

        “See the wonderous works of Providence! The uncertainty of human things!” George Washington 1775.

        “It is religion and morality alone, which we can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand.” John Adams.
        The religion that he is referring to is Christianity.

        “Religion is of general and public concern and on its proper support depend, in great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and happiness of the people. By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denominations of Christians are place upon the same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty.”
        Samuel Chase-Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court 1803
        This would mean we can have school prayer, no freakish groups running around (gays, bisexuals, etc), and also would mean not arresting Christians for praying at rump ranger rallies.

        Or how about this one, moron?
        “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.” George Washington April 07, 1789.
        This passage is from the Northwest Ordinance of 1789.

        How about the SCOTUS ruling at the end of Church of the Holy Trinity vs U.S. 1892? “God and America–there is no dissonance in these declarations. There is a universal language pervading them all, having one meaning; they affirm and reaffirm that this is a religious nation. These are not individual sayings, declarations of private persons, they are organic utterances; they speak the voice of the entire people–that “this is a Christian nation.”

        Don’t forget Rob, our freedom of religion was set up to keep governemnt out of the church and not the other way around. All our rights are given to us by God and not by men, how many times do we have to tell you these things? Seperation of church and state is a myth and is nowhere in the Constitution. Please try to answer what these things mean Rob and don’t use your personal beliefs as a crutch.
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          From samurai: “All our rights are given to us by God and not by men…”

          That’s the big lie from samurai.

          The Constitution of the United States begins with, “We the PEOPLE…”

          What part of that don’t you get, samurai?

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            You are the one who is lying Rob. Do not forget, our Christian founding fathers just didn’t wake up one morning and decide to do this. We are all subject to the rule and authority of the Lord our God. None can escape it nor hide from it, not even you Rob.

            “God governs all the affairs of men.” Ben Franlin.

            This is true. Sorry Rob, but all the things I have posted are all facts and you cannot dispute them and that pisses you off. You can look them up as much as you want, for I know that I am right. This is a Christian nation and forever will be such. Sorry Rob, I hate to tell you, but misguided fools like you were just kicked out of office last Tuesday. In 2012, there will be a lot more kicked out. Obama bin Laden being one of them. What my wife told you earlier is correct and on the money. Get your facts straight before you post, moron. All of our freedoms come from the will of God and not of men. Other than your lies and rantings, give us some real facts and sources and not this constant libera, gay loving, baby killing, marxist rhetoric. I challenge you to answer my and my wife’s post with factual information. Can you do that? I’ll be waiting for your answer and I better not just be hearing those darn crickets in the background.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            There he goes again: “We are all subject to the rule and authority of the Lord our God.”

            Another diaper load.

            Remember, “We the PEOPLE.”

            You know, it’s the first thing said in the Constitution.

            Further, your god ain’t allowed to run our government.

            BTW, where was he during Katrina? Was he punishing Bush?

            Rob

      • Pissed

        I HAVE NO DESIRE TO GO NEAR ANY PRIEST…..MY BUM STILL HURTS!

  • Patriot

    Why isn’t anyone from BP in jail for this fisco?

    • Kinetic1

      Corporations are only considered “individuals” when it is to their advantage. They may be fined, but they rarely do any time.

      • Dale on left coast

        Why are the govt regulators not investigated . . . then investigate the WH for their lack of interest.
        The “corporations are evil” stuff is the realm of the lefty-loons . . . lack of govt oversite and incompetence are largely responsible.

        • Kinetic1

          No argument here. The Mineral Management Service is culpable in this and if I am not mistaken, some have lost their jobs. The bribery, drugs and sex between the department and representatives of the oil industry was a huge story during the Bush administration. As the Christian Science Monitor reported,
          “Efforts at reform had begun even before the Deepwater Horizon accident. Alarmed by a 2008 inspector general report that revealed sex and drug use at the MMS’s Lakewood, Colo., office, the Obama White House had ended the controversial royalty-in-kind program and sent ethics coaches out to MMS employees.”

          And it didn’t stop with the White House. “Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska introduced legislation to mandate a two-year waiting period before government and industry jobs in order to reduce industry influence on regulators. The legislation, called the Stop Cozy Relationships with Big Oil Act, would also make gift-acceptance, a key focus of the most recent MMS investigation, a felony with a possible 15-year prison sentence.” But that would do little good considering that “acting Interior Department Inspector General Mary Kendall … released a report that said relationships between MMS and industry officials often date back to kindergarten.” What good is a two year waiting period when your talking about childhood buddies?

          As bad as this sounds, it still does not excuse the oil corporations. You may be tired of hearing about the big bad corps, but here it is. They cozied up to the administration, put buddies in the oversight departments, bought them off with drugs and sex, submitted bogus response plans that would require tools they didn’t even have and then ignored issues with the cement and the safety equipment. Can you really tell me that we are wrong to point a finger at BP and Haliburton?

          • Robert Smith

            From Kenetic: “The Mineral Management Service is culpable in this and if I am not mistaken, some have lost their jobs.”

            Ahhhh, the REGULATORS didn’t do their job on those who don’t want regulation so the REGULATORS get blamed.

            Interisting line of though. You don’t want any regulators but if they don’t do their job it’s their fault when a disaster happens.

            Looks like Reich Wing logic to me.

            Rob

        • eddie47d

          Dale; Corporations have been screwing us for quite awhile and finally got caught with their fingers in the cookie jar. Hardly a “loony left” conspiracy. Since few corporates were put in jail or even fined throughout the USA I’m sure we’ll be seeing more of the same in the near future.

          • Robert Smith

            From eddie: “Corporations have been screwing us for quite awhile…”

            That’s why the price of gasoline went up during the Bush years. They used so much petrolium jelly screwing us that there wasn’t enough to run our cars on.

            I wish there was one word that we could use like pedophelia so folks could understand just how much the Buch Chaney bunch screwed America.

            Rob

          • Vigilant

            “That’s why the price of gasoline went up during the Bush years. They used so much petrolium jelly screwing us that there wasn’t enough to run our cars on.”

            I used to think that communists had no sense of humor. Now I know it.

            Don’t quit your day job.

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob, you seem to be an expert in the field of use vaseline when screwing. Are you Barney’s new boyfriend? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • JeffH

      Patriot, I’ll tell you why. The same people that control BP also control the Federal Reserve and our corrupt government. They don’t do time like you and I might, they just dictate the who, what why and where and then reap the profits from the American taxpayers.

      One of the principal Rothschild representatives in New York is J.P. Morgan Co. JP Morgan-Chase owns controlling interest in BP. BP is in the Rothschilds portfolio. Goldman Sachs fits neatly into all of this also.

      According to the European financial database Amadeus, JPMorgan Chase is the No. 1 holder of stock in BP. That distinction also has earned the Wall Street bank the title of “Global Ultimate Owner” of the oil giant, as it owns 28.34% of BP.

      Goldman Sachs is also part of the equation, we next need to examine its non-executive chairman, Peter Sutherland, who formerly filled the same role at BP, the company at the center of this debacle. As the third-largest global energy company in existence, BP has four direct links to Bilderberg: former CEO John Brown, chairman Carl Henric Svanberg, chief executive Tony Hayward and Sutherland. In addition, Sutherland formerly served as the World Trade Organization’s director general, EU commissioner and chairman of the European Trilateral Commission.

      Barack Obama and his Chicago crime network expect to reap handsome profits in the future. Step No. 1 in this process began with Chicago’s Joyce Foundation, which had John Ayers (brother of terrorist William Ayers) on its board. Another board member was then-Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

      The Joyce Foundation created the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), which in turn received financing from Franklin Raines, former head of Fannie Mae, a prime mover in our recent housing market collapse and economic recession.

      One other individual on CCX’s board of directors is the controversial Maurice Strong, a New Age occultist with direct ties to the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds

      This background information is important because the top recipient of BP donations during the 2008 presidential campaign was Obama. Similarly, the second highest political action committee contributing to a political candidate in 2008 was Goldman Sachs. The beneficiary of their largess: Obama.

      Ironically, big oil and global bankers are two of the most ardent supporters of climate change legislation. In this sense, seeming adversaries such as “environmentalist” Gore and BP are on the same team; as are Cheney’s Halliburton, Goldman Sachs and Obama’s CCX. It should also be noted that prior to their demise, the corrupt Enron Corporation lavished huge amounts of praise on cap and trade legislation.

      The Rothschilds have spent huge amounts of money promoting the global warming hoax. Goldman Sachs is obviously an arm of their empire, whereas BP is among a host of companies in Nathan Rothschild’s portfolio.

      http://americanfreepress.net/html/gulf_oil_spill_222.html

      • JeffH

        The gulf oil platform was a planned blow-up that is being used to further the Cap & Trade agenda…it’s all about the money, not the disaster, to these snakes and our corrupt government is providing the endless capital from the taxpayers.

        Did anybody from Goldman Sachs go to jail when they were charged by the SEC for allegedly defrauding investors in the 2007 Abacus CDO? Someone should have gone to jail, but NO! The $550 million penalty paid is equal to about two weeks’ worth of profit that Goldman enjoyed during the first quarter of this year, when it made $3.3 billion.

        Where is the justice in all of this?
        There is no justice for you and I because we don’t make the rules…they do! We, like Madoff would end up in jail.

        • Robert Smith

          From JeffH: “The gulf oil platform was a planned blow-up that is being used to further the Cap & Trade agenda…”

          I’ll bet you believe that the Bush administration took down the Twin Towers too. Maybe the Bildibuggers?

          Rob

          • JeffH

            Keep that head buried RS! I posted my links to support my comments and they certainly show who the players are. By the way, your buddy Bush is in bed with the same people that push your buddy Obama’s buttons…tough for you to chew but I’m sure you can handle it!

          • JeffH

            Robert Smith, if I get there I’ll make sure you’re the first to know!

  • Rick S

    When it’s all over there will be so many rules and regs, invented by people that have never worked on a rig that it will be hard for smaller companies to work. Only the big ones like BP will be able to afford to work.

    I feel sorry for the folks that live down there because judging by governments track records world wide it’s always the little guy that gets shafted.

    How the hell can you put a price on a persons way of life? Or their childrens future way of life? I’m not saying they should break the company but the company should make it so those folks never have to work another day in their life. Most likely it will take that long for life to get back to normal.

    I don’t know much about your politics but if it’s anything like ours I suggest lube in your back pocket because the shaft is coming.

    • Robert Smith

      From Rick: “When it’s all over there will be so many rules and regs, invented by people that have never worked on a rig that it will be hard for smaller companies to work. Only the big ones like BP will be able to afford to work.”

      Prey tell… How many “small” companies are building oil rigs and exploring?

      Sheesh.

      Rob

  • Robert Pa.

    I knew this whole Technology was “JUNK” years ago. It is NASA level in the hands of “Children”. The workers were in “Harms Way” from the get go. We have 570,000 caped viable wells drilled, plus a “Lake” of oil in New Mexico as big as Lake Erie and twice as deep, enough for 50 years of USA use. Not being used.
    Me, I’m building a “Black Box” device that pulls electric energy from the universe. It generates 480 volts 600 KW to power what ever. Class 8 trucks, police cars, homes, businesses, aircraft, ships etc.
    No heat or carbon footprint.

    Also no funding from the government. So i am using SS to fund a few bucks each month.

    As the man said “Just Do IT”

    Inventor.

    • Kinetic1

      Is that “lake” of oil shale oil? Are you talking about fragging?

  • http://com i41

    edee, some of us know a mental check up for you is a waste money and time, there is not any mental activity twix those jack rabbit ears, that tacked on that cone head shaped of yours. The reason things keep being repeated to you socialist wards of the USA, is the massive brain damage that was done on your miracle rear birth delivery. Robert in Pa., glad to see a true American inventor trying something with out the government sow tit in the mess, smothering you design and making sure you get hosed, by working with a engineering college. Keep it up! Also if the oil feild is that big, it would last more like 50,000 years, Williston-Baaken will last over 2000 years with what is in the USA. Rick S, everything down to food production is overregulated. USA has plenty of crude and if the permitted oil refinery was finished in start up of 1978, but stopped for a damn rat by the envior nut jobs of the NMCDUP idoits. Just remember the NMCDUP want the governemnt to control everything, even your life, what you think, drive, eat and what work you do. Democrats have always dreamed of a failed American and a socialist dictatorship run country. Working as a government dickbird employee is the hieght of acheivement. When you have raised as a ward of the federal government and of the socialist mind set, you always will need a boss kicking a sorry rear like his, so something productive will ber produced, instead of airy fairy theories. edee is a blue ribbon model of a government ward.

    It is so only the mega corps with former crimmal beltway dorks sit on their boards and get million dollar salaries, like ADM, Con-AG and the 4 packing giants control, meat supply with their corpation owned livestock. Thanks to the NMCDUP idoit and the gutless Congress who will not enforce already passed laws on the books since 1920

    • eddie47d

      I didn’t mean to hurt you’re ittybitty feelings i41. You are a 24/7 rattlesnake so stay off the highways.

  • ONTIME

    Is there anyone out there who thinks the government has clean hands in this Gulf oil spill? They don’t and their culpabilty is just as important to all affected as is that of the BP Corp. that had to stop the flow, make reparations and bear the brunt of their reputation being defiled. The government failed to inspect, did not properly regulate and caused considerable delay by their lethargic response, which lead to far more damage and interfered with safety as well as extensive environmental hazard…this administration has lied it’s butt off and caused immense suffering and economic problems for this nation and those people in the Gulf…yet little if nothing for responsibility will come forth on behalf of this adminstration.

    • Claire

      ONTIME—I agree with you 100%. They ALL lied. And it makes me madder than hell.

  • Claire

    I have two words for Haliburton and BP — You bastards!

    • JeffH

      Claire, I agree. It isn’t even Halliburton or BP that are ultimately responsible for the destruction done in the gulf…I did some more research and posted it further up. It’s always the same names with the same links that come into play…always money and power!

      There are a lot of people on this website that are starting to recognize the real players in this whole conspiracy…for that matter, everything that seems to happen here and around the world. Hundreds of years in the making.

      • Claire

        JeffH–I heard just a bit of news this afternoon, and scientists said that there is damage to the ocean floor? I didn’t get all of it, but enough to tell me it was not good. Shame on all of them.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Claire,
          they found damage to the coral bed. They say they need to do more research to find out if the oil or other factors did it!

          • Claire

            Joe H — I will bet that the oil sure played a contributing factor in the destruction. This issue still honks me off. The greedy slobs could care less about Mother Earth, let alone the inhabitants.

  • coal miner
    • JeffH

      Who cares what they say anymore, it’s all a bunch of lies for the little guys to read…nothing more.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        watch coal Minor’s sites. he posted a couple that made my computer light up like a christmas tree saying to disconnect possible virus!! I don’t even check out his links anymore!!

        • JeffH

          JoeH, I do know that! I do have a great anti-virus program though.

      • eddie47d

        Yes,Jeff with you it damn the torpedo’s and full speed ahead in destroying the environment. Whatever it takes irregardless of the consequences. You haven’t changed one bit.

        • JeffH

          Foolio fast eddiot…typical fast eddiot assumption…prove my support of environment destruction you twit? You can’t! You’ll run from that question like the good little jackrabbit you are…silence of the lamb…bbbaaahhhh! Put up or shut up! Hah!

        • eddie47d

          When you support companies that “stink up” the environment then you in turn support the degradation of the environment that they destroyed. If and when someone makes a comment like “it’s the price of progress” to ruin our environment then they are culpable for those damages. If a company leaves chemicals or mine tailing’s and they contaminate someones drinking water then they are criminal. If the taxpayer has to clean up their messes then they were never a legitimate or honest company. Since you go to bat for some of these corporations and feel it’s the American thing to do then maybe you are more than a wee bit guilty. Are you on the side of a healthy America or reckless profits and no accountability?

          • JeffH

            fast eddiot foolio, is that all you can say, all you got? You’ve proved nothing and provided nothing more, again, than your typical liberal assumptive rhetoric…WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT I SUPPORT THE DESTRUCTION OF, OR COMPANIES THAT, DESTROY THE ENVIRONMENT?
            YOU CAN’T…BIG MOUTH!

          • eddie47d

            I don’t have to “prove” anything Jeffy pop. I just go by what you have been saying over that past year. If you don’t agree with what you say then stop saying it!

          • JeffH

            foolio fast eddiot…that is because you never can prove it. You just run your lamb chops as if you have something concrete and creditable to say…problem with you is you will say anything and expect others to believe it. You’ve been continually proven to be mis-informed and it is proven over and over that you have continually displayed a total lack of credibility. You can’t back up your liberal assumptive jibberish so why would you try to start now. For you, it’s just much easier to lie.

          • Denniso

            Almost every large business that produces a product will harm the environment if left alone to do it. All we need to do is read some history,much of it pretty recent, to see a multitude of examples of private biz hurting either it’s workers or the environment. We can’t be so stupid as a country to try the same failed experiment again and again…deregulating big biz in the name of more jobs and more profit for the corporations,and then waiting to see the damage done and having the taxpayers clean up after them.
            It’s what we have just seen occur w/ the financial collapse.

  • Robert Smith

    From Sook…: “a baby is considered a human life at the time of conception and not when they are born.”

    For YOU and generally those who follow your religion. I consider your religion to be cannabals because of that transsubstancian thing. To each their own. This is America, you can believe what you want. However, in America you are NOT allowed to impose you religion upon others.

    “If you have so little sympathy for an innocent human life,”

    So “little” is ZERO. However, I will respect what the pregnant woman wants to call it.

    “then I hate to see if you have children.”

    Very successful at that. Eagle Scout and a kid to be proud of.

    “If you do have them, I hope that they didn’t grow up an bombastic ignorant person like you.”

    ROFL, let’s watch the name calling from the self appointed christian.

    “Abortion is wrong in the eyes of God.”

    America isn’t obliged to follow your god that allows you to call others names and turn himself into brunch on Sunday morning.

    “You claim it is legal, but just because something is legal does not make it right.”

    You are at least correct on one point. I think it’s EVIL that women are verbally assaulted as they go into clinics. I think it’s EVIL that BORN doctors are shot in the name of your god.

    Rob

    • Denniso

      You’re right…what someone imagines their God thinks about an issue is utterly irelevant. The Muslim God apparently thinks differently than the Christian God,or the Scientology God,or the Mormon God,etc,etc…That’s why we don’t write laws based upon anyone’s religion and are supposed to have no gov’t sponsorship of any religion. Simple…

      • Robert Smith

        Scientology God

        ROFL…

        At least L. Ron Hubbard wrote some western and sci-fi books that were entertaining.

        I wonder, what have any other “gods” done?

        Rob

        • Denniso

          They’ve apparently let the ‘devil’ use the earth as his playground. Look around at the chaos and misery in the world.

  • James

    As for BP, I say good riddance to bad rubbish. Why should we buy oil from any foreigner? There are over 4000 deep-water wells in the Gulf of Mexico and there’s no earthly reason why the United States can’t drill with the rest of them. Our leaders wont do that because they want us to be inter-dependent instead of independent.

  • Pissed

    What the hell can we expect…It`s just the results of the lowest bidders product….AND as far as “CORPORATE TAXES” goes…Corporations dont PAY taxes! They simply pass on thier tax costs to the consumers of thier product or service, to the customer…WE THE PEOPLE!….You gotta keep the Profits up to keep the “SHARE HOLDERS” happy….Do YOU hold any STOCK in corporate America????

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