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Rangel gets “arrested.” Obamacare online is a rousing…failure. And what’s in a name, Jesse? All this — plus — IT’S A GORE-NADO! Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 

Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • independent thinker

    Cher has made herself into a bad copy of a bad Cher imposter imposter.

    • gunnerv1

      She’s starting to look like M. Jackson just before he bit the big one.

      • WTS/JAY

        During the Bush-administration, Cher attended a hearing in Washington on whether to modify helmets for soldiers in Iraq. The entertainer donated more than $130,000 to the group “Operation Helmet”, which modifies the inside of soldiers’ helmets to make them better able to absorb shock from a bomb blast.

        While this seemed like an odd move from the anti-war Cher, she did not have protective headwear design experience, having brilliantly crafted some killer ski helmets for her former husband.

        • nc

          Jay, that remark about Sonny Bono’s death is pure Ben Crystal ! You should take his place! You couldn’t do any worse!!

          • WTS/JAY

            Actually, that’s a Bill Maher joke, but thanks for the compliment!

          • Bob666

            OK Jay,
            so you listen to Bill Maher?

          • WTS/JAY

            Why not? I happen to think Bill Maher is very funny.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I think he is a classic jerk. Funny looking maybe, but not funny.

          • Karolyn

            I agree, Dave. Can’t stand the guy.

          • Bob666

            I would agree with you Jay,
            And sometimes he hits the nail squarely on the head.

          • WTS/JAY

            Sometimes…!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You must be quite the crack-up yourself, NutCase, in the Institution.
            No shouting today? Apparently your meds are still working.

          • WTS/JAY

            Lol!

        • smilee

          You are sick!!

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, i think we can both agree, smilee, that Bill Maher is a little sick. Btw, did you know that Bill Maher is a big Obama supporter?

          • smilee

            It is you whom is sick!!

          • WTS/JAY

            I can’t take credit for that joke, smilee, since it belongs to Bill Maher. So technically, you are saying, Bill Maher, is sick. Btw, did i mention Bill Maher is a big Obama supporter?

          • Bob666

            I believe that you might have mentioned that Jay,

          • WTS/JAY

            Did i mention that smilee, is a big Obama-supporter?

          • Bob666

            I believe that you might have mentioned that as well Jay,

          • JeffH

            Mirror sleepee, mirror!

        • gunnerv1

          Oh you are so very good!

  • http://citizen-hill.com/ CitizenHill

    Dude, you have got to work on your delivery. . . just saying

  • mjh

    get rid of the canned laughter- it ain’t funny

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    I LIKE CRYSTAL CAUSE HE IS VERY RIGHT ABOUT THE THINGS HE IS TELLING US.

    • nc

      Ma’am, Ben Crystal is a sight gag comedian, The content of his studio comedy is pure pus ! He is telling you nothing of importance! He is mocking the same people you dislike by using the uglyest pictures he can find or photo shop! If he were real good he wouldn’t be making a living on this site. I must assume that Mr. Livingston pays him if he pays Wayne Root.
      Surely you are not getting your “truth” from “Ben Crystal News”

      • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

        You must gets your news from those fools that put out ies for the OBAMA ADMINSTRATION.

      • WTS/JAY

        And i suppose the next thing you’ll be telling us is that you have the monopoly on the truth? Do tell!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        If this is true, then why do you come here and bother us with your crap, no cajones? Your whole post is nothing but argument to ridicule. But alas! We could never expect a logical debate from someone like you. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden Care.
        http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/10/12/6-things-every-american-should-know-about-obamacare-n1722245/page/full
        http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2013/10/11/tragic-young-mother-forced-to-choose-between-obamacare-premiums-and-feeding-family-n1722011
        http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2013/10/11/dr-ben-carson-compares-obamacare-to-american-slavery-and-soviet-communism-n1721907
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “The Bible is the chief moral cause of all that is good and the best corrector of all that is evil in human society – the best book for regulating the temporal concerns of men.”
        Noah Webster

        • smilee

          The propaganda kid is at it again! Here To try and keep you idiots on your toes. You are not capable of logical debate.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            And you claim to be able to debate, when all you do is argument to ridicule, lie, spew hate, innuendo, rhetoric, and left wing propaganda? Ha, ha, ha, ha! This is just like the pot calling the kettle black. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden. One is even from a college law professor.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/actor-expects-work-hard-find-criticizing-obama/
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/10/law-professor-obama-doesnt-know-america-democracy/
            Even academia seems to be waking up to the pretender. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “If you are not reconciled to God through Jesus Christ – if you are not clothed with the spotless robe of His righteousness – you must forever perish.”
            Rev. John Witherspoon

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again!! I suppose it would appear that way to your non functional mind!!

          • JeffH

            LMAO! Sleepee, if you say it often enough it only confirms that you do indeed appear dumber than you are…so keep on talkin!

          • JeffH

            LMAO! Sleepee, if you say it often enough it only confirms that you do indeed appear dumber than you are…so keep on talkin!

          • WTS/JAY

            That is about the only thing smilee has managed to confirm thus far, JeffH. Based on that, do you suppose we could grant smilee some, credibility on this board?

          • JeffH

            That is hilarious…I always like a good laugh and you provided a good one today. TY!
            LLLLLOOOOOOOLLLLL & LMAOOOOOOFFFFFF!
            The whole sum of ZERO will always be ZERO.

          • WTS/JAY
          • JeffH

            Heh, heh, heh! I remember seeing that a couple of years ago.

          • WTS/JAY

            It never gets old.

          • smilee

            You have non to grant!!

          • WTS/JAY

            That would be, “none”, you simpleton.

          • vicki

            ad hominem

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You are not capable of logic, Sleepee. You’re not even capable of good grammar.

          • WTS/JAY

            Even if he had, good grammar, it still wouldn’t help his BS appear any more credible.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            But smilee and the Dems/Progs/Leftists will take bragging rights that they made the PLD site squirm.

          • Bill

            Smilee,
            There is no debate with collectivists. We have a difference in philosophy

          • smilee

            That is because you live in a dream world rather than in the real on

          • vicki

            There are some people that post here who obviously live in a world of dreams. And it is not really very hard to spot them.

          • smilee

            Yes, you sure do stand out like a sore thumb!!

          • vicki

            Ad hominem. Thanks for playing.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Vicki, there is a time to realize that a pig is a pig and it was a waste of time and pearls to keep throwing them at smilee.

          • vicki

            The pearls are not thrown there for smilee. They are for readers who come here to actually learn.

          • vicki

            Since you have only ad hominem and argument to ridicule I don’t think your assessment of someone else’s debate skills carry any weight.

          • smilee

            I give as good as I get, you seem to not see the other side of the picture! When conversing with intelligence there is a lot of substance in my posts but that is not possible with sammie and those like him who suffer from tunnel vision.

          • WTS/JAY

            Actually, you take it better than you give, smilee. Fortunately for you, you’re blissfully unaware of that, much to our disappointment.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Are you looking in the mirror, NutCase?

      • Palin16

        nc, it’s not hard to find ugly pictures of Pelosi, Hillary, and their ilk anywhere on the web.

  • FreedomFighter

    1 John 2:15

    GREAT 8 as usual Ben.

    The Tea Party and others are like the Spartans at Thermopylae…
    Tea Party vs Obama why does this clip remind me of our current potus so much?

    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Vigilant

      The Spartans lost at Thermopylae.

      • FreedomFighter

        Sometimes you have to lose to win.
        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • FreedomFighter

        Sometimes you have to lose to win.
        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Yep. Better to have tried and lost, then never to have tried at all.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        But look at how many the 300 Spartans took out before they were all killed. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here are some articles about the battle against the libturds and progturds on the abortion front.
        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/10/why-do-women-have-abortions-new-study-provides-some-answers/
        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/05/the-economic-drain-of-taxpayer-funded-abortions-in-canada/
        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/10/judge-allows-lawsuit-against-virginia-law-that-could-close-abortion-clinics/
        If we can continue winning on this front, we can split the libturd/progturd lines and sweep the field of them. The smell of roasting libturds and progturds is always a good smell. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “The Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children under a free government ought to be instructed. No truth is more evident than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.”
        Noah Webster
        Revolutionary soldier
        Judge
        Legislator
        Educator
        “Schoolmaster to America”
        Devout Christian

      • gunnerv1

        The Spartans may have been overwhelmed but they accomplished what they set out to do, a “Delaying Action”, also don’t forget, they were betrayed.

  • Warrior

    Listen to Dr. Ben Carson speak of the “anointed ones” signature program. Priceless!

  • WTS/JAY

    NO NEED TO DELAY OBAMACARE; IT WILL COLLAPSE ON ITS OWN!

    Obamacare computer code riddled with typos, Latin filler text, desperate programmer comments and disastrous architecture…

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042428_Obamacare_exchange_Javascript_critical_errors.html

    • Bob666

      Yo Jay,
      I could not agree with you more. If “Obama” care is every bit as bad as people make it out to be, let it be implemented.

      The market will change it or scrap it.

      • Warrior

        And “BILLIONS” wasted in the meantime attempting to prop it up. SEE “public edumacation”! Possibly your light bulb will go on but somehow I doubt it. NoCare is not even about healthcare.

      • Warrior

        And “BILLIONS” wasted in the meantime attempting to prop it up. SEE “public edumacation”! Possibly your light bulb will go on but somehow I doubt it. NoCare is not even about healthcare.

      • Bill

        But it is not market dominated, it is government subsidized

      • FreedomFighter

        ObamaCare will kill millions, crush the middle class out of existence, destroy the economy, spread misery, suffering and poverty to millions more, just as all other socialist health care systems have all over the world. In the hands of government ObamaCare becomes a eugenics program targeted at the weakest in society. Simply put, ObamaCare is evil.
        That is the reason I fight ObamaCare, and I would rather not see the suffering implementation will bring.
        Laus DeoSemper FI

        • Bob666

          Care to cite some proof of that statement?

        • Karolyn

          “just as all other socialist health care systems have all over the world”? I’ve never heard anything bad about health care in Europe. I know someone in Germany who has nothing bad to say about it.

          The stats and info in this article are very interesting:

          http://www.healthpaconline.net/rekindling/Articles/Glasser.htm
          In 1998, the US spent $4178 per capita on healthcare, while Germany spent $2424.

        • janna

          freedomfighter
          and yet Elected again
          i’ll be damned
          thank “GOD” there is more wisdom in the land then on this BLOG

      • smilee

        Their greatest fear is it will work and the people will like it, they sure did not want the gov shut down over it.

        • WTS/JAY

          It’s dead in the water, smilee. Kinda like you.

      • vicki

        Since it is a government (forced) program and not a free market program it will not respond well to market forces that would normally change or scrap it. Remove the government force that will prop it up and lets see how long (in seconds :) it will exist.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. We all know that it cannot stand on its own, so Obama bin Laden, along with the left wing wackos, have to force it on the people for it to survive. This would count the unconstitutional fees paid to the IRS. Here are 2 articles that describe what this fight is about.
      http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/10/now-is-the-time-for-full-throttle-defund-of-obamacare/
      http://www.redstate.com/2013/10/11/the-fight-remains-about-obamacare/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “There is no salvation in any other than in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.”
      Rev. John Witherspoon
      Signer of the Declaration of Independence
      Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution
      President of Princeton University
      Devout Christian

      • Palin16

        samurai, I think you’re getting under the skin of Smelley. Keep up the good work! He is the real minister of propaganda, straight from his union handbook and the communist Manifesto of Marx.

        • smilee

          Under my skin, I am laughing so hard my gut aches, seldom to you get a chance to observe such a fool!

          • WTS/JAY

            You just need to spend more time in front of the mirror, smilee, that’s all.

          • Palin16

            Smelly went to see his doctor and told him “Doc, everyday I get up and look at myself in the mirror and throw up. What’s wrong with me?” The doctor said “I don’t know but your eyesight is perfect.”

          • FreedomFighter

            Communism: Servant of Demons
            The communist ideals book is dedicated to Satan, yet they claim no god. The history of communism is a horror story of senseless death, power struggles and corruption. Communism is propagated thru a great lie, a veneer of righteousness over a rotting, malignant pool of the power mad, suicidal mad and madder hatter’s elite. The commi-cancer is injected into the healthy political system, where it festers and spreads; not for its ideals or goals, but for power and wealth given for betrayal of one’s own ideals, social values, morals and god.
            Observing you?
            Laus DeoSemper FI

          • smilee

            ARE YOU DRUNK??

          • WTS/JAY

            ARE YOU DELUSIONAL?

          • WTS/JAY

            Hmm, excellent quote!!!

    • hungry4food

      This is
      incredible ….. you
      are not going to believe this !!!

      http://www.naturalnews.com/042427_Obamacare_private_details_Trojan_Horse.html

      • WTS/JAY

        Of course i believe it, hungry4food. Just look at who is at the helm…criminals!

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    Yes, it is a great morning that God has given us today. Another Great 8 and libturds roasting on the BBQ. I love that smell in the morning, just like bacon. Must be because they are all communist pigs. Here is an article about how Obama bin Laden is taking his revenge against America.
    http://www.politichicks.tv/column/obamas-revenge/
    I hope we can impeach this pretender before he does any more damage to our country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “The Christian religion is the basis, or rather the source, of all genuine freedom in government…I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable in which the principles of Christianity have not a controlling influence.”
    Noah Webster

    • smilee

      Good morning to the propaganda kid, Obama is winning the negotiation your denial is just that because you and yours are losing it

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Obama isn’t winning anything, but is actually losing. Don’t look to Obama bin Laden Care being funded any time soon. I swear you are a traitor. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden and Obama bin Laden Care.
        http://www.conservativebyte.com/2013/10/obama-balks-boehners-debt-ceiling-offer/
        http://www.joeforamerica.com/2013/10/new-numbers-spell-trouble-obamacare/#
        Looks like you are wrong once again. But alas! We didn’t expect anything different from you. Now go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
        “No man, whatever be his character or whatever be his hope, shall enter into rest unless he be reconciled to God through Jesus Christ.”
        Rev. John Witherspoon

        • smilee

          The propaganda kid now shows he is delusional. First they said we have to repeal this bad Obamacare, then they folded on that then they said we have to repeal the funding for this bad Obamacare and then they folded on that, then they said we will embrace Obamacare but you must first wait a year and then they folded on that and now say we will embrace it.so they totally folded and the shutdown they forced on us did not work for them and you say Obama is not winning?? You are delusional and Obamacare is already funded as that was included in the law. Your not only delusional your ignorant!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Unfortunately the Democrat Zealot Sleepee may be correct, given that only a few Republicans really are for Small Government. The rest go along for the ride to do a head fake on their constituents so as to get re-elected.
            Big Government is bad no matter if it is Big Government by Democrats or Big Government by Republicans.
            For Free Markets, Limited Government, Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, and the PEACE that comes with that Freedom — Vote Libertarian!
            http://www.lp.org/platform

          • Bill

            Smilee,
            Have you signed up for Obamacare yet?

          • smilee

            I am on Medicare so I cannot!

          • WTS/JAY

            How can we believe a word you say, smilee, when all you do is lie?

          • smilee

            LOL. you saying that the GOP did not fold on Obamacare?? wake up!!

          • WTS/JAY

            I’m saying that you are a liar, and the only thing that comes out of your mouth, are lies! GOP did not fold on obamacare, you political-dunce, you; the GOP, like the Demonrats, are both playing their parts, and reading their lines according to script written by those who are raping Americans of their wealth. After all, there cannot be a show of consensus/general-agreement, until there is first, a show of a fake-disagreement. Time to wake up from your utopian-dream, sleepy-head, and realize you have been lied to, and bamboozled, SHMUCK!

          • smilee

            Taking it off the table is folding my friend. Trust ,me Obamacare will not be changed in any way while the government is shut down unless the senate finds a way and the house accepts it but he house GOP failed in everything so far. They are big time losers! Your so out of touch it’s pathetic!

          • WTS/JAY

            Only a fool would believe in the puppet-show that is our political-sysyem, smilee. Think of our political-system as, Sesame-street for those who never grew up and woke from their slumber. Did you watch and like Sesame-street when you were a child, smilee? You did? Good for you, Well, you’re in luck, you can now watch the R-rated version on your boob-tube every night, you boob!

          • smilee

            Your so unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • WTS/JAY

            That would be, “you’re”, you dumb-azz! Of course, i’m unreal, smilee, after all, you do live in la la land, do you not?

          • Vis Fac

            You are in an ASYLUM you mean and therefore ineligible So in fact what I say is true you are on government dole!

            I just FLUSHED you again!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • WTS/JAY

            You’re on medication? What a surprise!

          • Bob666

            Bill,
            have you?

          • Bill

            No, and I am not planning to

          • Bob666

            Good for you!

          • Vis Fac

            I’m not either Since I don’t file income tax I needn’t fret over the IRS goon Squad

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • WTS/JAY

            Probably not, even smilee is not that stupid. Of course, he’ll probably say he did.

          • smilee

            I answered that for you already, your memory failing?

          • Vis Fac

            SMELLY We all know you have trouble with the truth and as you say you signed up further proves that fact for ODUMBOCARE sign ups have crashed what little reasoning power you once had has crashed. Just as ODUMBOCARE will do to the nation. We all know you have trouble finding the on button for your computer you think it is ZERO which matches your IQ. let alone how to use a mouse.

            I just FLUSHED you!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            IOW, no, you haven’t. If it is so good, then why wasn’t your name one of the 51,000 that signed up? Ooops! Just got caught in another lie. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth You know I’m on Medicare and not eligible for it.

        • Warrior

          Sam I Am, oblama is a gaping wound and the only way to stop the bleeding is to keep “pressure” on it. Keep up your Patriotic Work! Lovin it.

      • WTS/JAY

        Wrong! Obama and Boner are negotiating for a win-win that will only benefit the joke that our government has become. You, are the one who is in denial because you think it will benefit you, and the rest of leaches that suck from the government tit. I personally don’t think that there’s a shrink, skilful enough, to save you from yourself, smilee. Your condition would take divine-intervention to rectify; another words, a miracle!

        • smilee

          Boehner has already lost and is only looking for a tidbit to save some face now! it has nothing to do with me personally that assumption on your part is plain stupid and so typical of your responses.

          • FreedomFighter

            smilee you have won the
            Video Boob Prize
            Laus DeoSemper FI

          • smilee

            Nice boobs

          • Bob666

            yup, they are!

          • WTS/JAY

            You’re a nice boob to, smilee.

          • Vis Fac

            They might be OK for now but in a year or so they’ll be anklet charms. SMELLY is a terminal case of hemorrhoids for the DUMBOCRITE party.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Warrior

            LMAO!

      • Vis Fac

        SMELLY strikes again with more of the same It’s getting old SMELLY and time for you to acquire new material for you have COMPLETELY lost it!!!

        just FLUSHED you!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • independent thinker

    I see 4 or 5 comments from smelly smilee and the total worth of the comments can be summed up thusly…?

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      The Liberal Progressive first string Shills must be on furlough. All they can afford right now is the second string shills.

      • Vis Fac

        Giving them that much credit are you?

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • WTS/JAY

    “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents.” -Bill Ayers

    And he is the author of “Common Core” curriculum and still a professor at the University of Chicago.

    As well, Bill Ayers has ties to at least ten people in the white house administration: Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, David Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett, Kevin Jennings, Anita Dunn, Arne Duncan, Martha Kanter, Vartan Gregorian and Cindy Moelis.

    Video: Ayers,”Yeah I Totally Held Fundraiser for Obama”

    video here: http://www.exposeobama.com/2011/11/30/video-ayers-yeah-i-totally-held-fundraiser-for-obama/

    • Vis Fac

      I guess according to Ayers we have to Kill Bill Ayers as well right? Does it stand to reason thet America is in such sad shape as to embrace this kind of rationale?

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Bob666

    Saturday, October 12, 2013

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama’s job performance. Forty-eight percent (48%) disapprove (see trends).

    Eighty-five percent (85%) of Democrats like the job the president is doing. Eighty percent (80%) of Republicans and 57% of unaffiliated voters disapprove.

    The latest figures include 27% of all likely voters who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -13.

    Results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern (sign up for free daily e-mail update).

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    • WTS/JAY

      Wow, that means that 51% of those who voted for obama are bunch of idiots, huh Bob? That is really bad news, Bob. God help us!

      • Bob666

        That is democracy Jay.

        “Winston Churchill said it best. “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”

        • WTS/JAY

          ROFLMAO!!!

        • Bill

          We are structured as a constitutional republic, not a democracy

          • Bob666

            Khaleej Times, editorial, United Arab Emirates: “The partial shutdown … has more to do with personalized politics than compulsions of macroeconomics. At least that is what President Obama believes when he laid the blame squarely on House Speaker John Boehner for delaying the vote and inadvertently keeping the state business closed. … The purse of nation lying with the Congress should not be held hostage to personal likes and dislikes.”

            http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/07/shutdown-obama-gop-congress-column/2939961/

          • Bill

            Do you have any thoughts of your own or are you good at quoting biased reporters

          • Bob666

            Well Willie,

            ” or are you good at quoting biased reporters”

            I have lots of thoughts and express them here often. Are six different news sources (fox news included) not diverse enough for you?

            What have you offered?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            What’s up with using that liberal rag USA Today? That has about as much credibility as a sand flea. Here are 2 articles about 2 political figures in Washington.
            http://www.thedailycaller.com/2013/10/11/gop-sen-pat-roberts-to-sebelius-resign-in-absence-of-full-obamacare-repeal/
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cruz-interrupted-seems-obamas-paid-political-operatives-are-out-force-today
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A patriot must be a religious man.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            Sammy,
            See my response to you about multiple polls from several different sources saying the same thing.

            Did one of these site that you posted say Romney would win the election by a landslide?

        • nc

          BOB, Winston Churchill was a brilliant man and yet it was the biggest liberal who ever lived , FDR(D) who save his butt and ours!!!

          • Bob666

            Yo Chuckie,

            I can’t disagree with your comment regarding Churchill and FDR did rise to the occasion. But I would also say that based on the threat to the UK, Churchill displayed tremendous leadership.

            “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself” and “We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender”

          • WTS/JAY

            Churchill was a Liberal-Conservative, fdr was a true LIEberal!

          • Bob666

            That may be true Jay (about FDR),
            But thanks to FDR-you and I did not learn how to Goose-Step in School growing up.

          • WTS/JAY

            Have you visited your local school lately, Bob? The goose-step has changed somewhat in appearance, but it’s still a goose-step nonetheless! This thing about having destroyed nazism is pure revisionism. Nazism was never vanquished. Nazism was simply relocated to America. Hence the creation of the Democratic-socialist party!

          • Bob666

            Jay,
            I have a fourteen year old daughter and as fifteen year grand-daughter and ten year old grand-son.

            So yes, I have been to public & private schools here in Florida. Aside from being the oldest father in the classroom when my daughter was in a public elementary school at PTA meetings, I would say that my wife and I were over all, very pleased with the public elementary school that she went to.

            Middle school and High school were a different story and she has been in private school for four years now. While there are many exceptions that I take with some of the policies, most of my complaints would be centered around funding.

            Our Grad daughter is in a public high school in north Florida, it is public and one of the top ten in the country. She is getting as good an education as my daughter in a $28K/year private school.

            I really believe that it gets down to community involvement and funding Jay.

        • Don 2

          Winston Churchill also said, “Socialism is the philosophy of envy and gospel of greed.”

          • WTS/JAY

            Hmm, Churchill was a true intellect!

          • WTS/JAY

            The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent vice of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. – Winston Churchill

        • WTS/JAY

          Some regard private enterprise as if it were a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look upon it as a cow that they can milk. Only a handful see it for what it really is – the strong horse that pulls the whole cart. – Winston Churchill

      • smilee

        No because you are not in the 51% and your the biggest idiot here.

        • WTS/JAY

          Well, if they are not idiots, smilee, then explain why we have an idiot in the white-house.

        • WTS/JAY

          Well, if they are not idiots, smilee, then explain why we have an idiot in the white-house.

  • Bob666

    Saturday, October 12, 2013

    Most voters agree that if Congress and the president don’t raise the federal debt ceiling it will be bad for the economy but think major cuts in government spending should be part of any deal to raise that ceiling.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 15% of Likely U.S. Voters think there will be no economic impact if the federal government’s $16.7 trillion debt ceiling is not raised. Sixty-two percent (62%) believe it will be bad for the economy if the government defaults on its debt. Twelve percent (12%) say it will be good for the economy

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/october_2013/53_want_major_spending_cuts_as_part_of_debt_ceiling_deal

    • WTS/JAY

      There is no need to raise the debt-ceiling, Bob. We could literary channel billions into the treasury just from government-waste alone, and by chaining government to its rightful position; that being, out of our private affairs, and barred from the marketplace. There is no need to walk to the federal-reserve, like brainless-twits, with cap in hand, when we can just as easily generate our own treasury, without the useless help from government

      • Vis Fac

        A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y Too much government waste too many redundant agencies and programs too much wasted on illegals too mush wasted aiding our enemies! Too much waste playing golf, African trips and $7B too much for electricity for Africa too much for designer clothing . AND much much more we all should live withing our means especially a government that does not earn what it spends.

        Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other. – Ronald Reagan

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      What the hell is wrong with cutting federal aid to FOREIGN countries? You don’t put yourself in debt because your neighbor can’t make ends meet so why go in further debt for an enemy?

      If I were to provide sustenance to strangers who continue to invade my house and Ignore my own children you can bet CPS would have me in handcuffs in a heartbeat.

      These are just two examples where our “leadership” has failed us. Ne Americans having been dumbed down and indoctrinated with Political Correctness sit idly by agape and say nothing.

      Americans think more of social networking than keeping their house in order. we are more interested in being politically correct than solving problems. I see myself as a charitable person but charity begins at home. When my own house is secure then and only then do I look to help others.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • Bob666

    Poll: Americans Divided Over What Wild Animal They Would Like To See Congress Mauled By

    WASHINGTON —As the partial government shutdown grinds on into its twelfth day, Americans remain deeply divided over what kind of wild animal they would most like to see Congress mauled by, according to a new poll released today.

    While a majority of Americans say they would enjoy seeing Congress torn limb from limb by a ferocious bear, there is disagreement over which species of bear would be best suited for that assignment.

    When asked, “What kind of bear would do the best job of savaging Congress with its fearsome paws?,” Americans gave grizzly bears the highest job-approval rating, followed by polar bears, and by brown bears in a distant third.

    But the poll showed that there was also strong support for the idea of Congress being set upon by a pack of rapacious animals, with rabid hyenas the first choice of many respondents, followed by feral dogs and cats.

    While insatiable, bloodthirsty mammals were most often cited as the animals Americans would like to see eviscerate Congress, there was significant support for another scenario, involving Congress being consumed by a swarm of predatory insects.

    Fifteen per cent of those surveyed “strongly agreed” with the statement, “Being torn limb from limb by a grizzly bear or devoured by a pack of rabid hyenas is too good for these people. They should be eaten, very slowly, by a colony of hungry fire ants. Yes, that’s it—fire ants. That would be amazing.”

    • Vis Fac

      Let the punishment fit the crime! I prefer hanging for congress has left us hanging out to dry. Especially our VETERANS

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • scotty

        The senate had better go along for the ride as well….especially ‘hang-em high harry and nasty pelosi, and dickhead durbin.

    • WTS/JAY

      According to a Democratic Press Release, Barack Obama has been rated the 5th best President of all time. Here are the statistics:

      Ronald Reagan, Abraham Lincoln and 8 others tied for First.

      15 Presidents tied for Second.

      17 Presidents tied for Third.

      Jimmy Carter wowed us all to land in Fourth Place.

      ..and Barack Obama came in 5th place.

      Seems accurate, no?

      Enjoy the humor. There’s not enough in politics…

      • Robert Messmer

        Wow the Democrats can release true statements once in a while.

        • smilee

          Its not theirs, just more lies

          • WTS/JAY

            Went right over your tiny, little pointed-head, didn’t it, smilee?

      • Bill

        Good comment, Jay

        • Bob666

          The Japan Times, editorial, Tokyo: “It is an anti-democratic spectacle unworthy of the U.S. … Opposition to the (Affordable Care Act) has mounted over time. Despite more than a year of debate, the passage of the bill by both houses of Congress and its approval by the Supreme Court, a hard core of GOP members refuse to accept its legitimacy. For them, it is socialism, the destroyer of the U.S. health care system, the bankrupter of the U.S. economy, or another entitlement that will destroy the moral fiber of the American people. … They are prepared to paralyze the U.S. government, to cripple its creditworthiness and to embrace a campaign of … outright distortion that threatens to discredit democracy itself. The U.S. deserves better than this.”

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/07/shutdown-obama-gop-congress-column/2939961/

          • Palin16

            Obamacare would not have barely cleared the Senate until Dirty Harry Reid bribed democrat senators with the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase. This was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history. And then Pigosi threatened wavering House democrats to vote for it or lose their committee chairs (ie. Shelly Berkley, D-NV). Not a single republican idea was allowed by Reid and not a single republican voted for this monstrosity.

          • Bob666

            And yet it passed?

          • Palin16

            Prohibition also passed. The mistake was later corrected.

          • Bob666

            That is correct Palin, and if “Obama Care” is everything that Prohibition was-it to shall be repealed.

            Are you worried about the ACA act being successful?

          • WTS/JAY

            The aca doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell, Bob!

          • Bob666

            Jay,
            We are new & early into this venture. Time will tell and if it is everything as bad as it is made out to be and if it is, the market will change or eliminate it.

            What I don’t get in this whole situation is; if it fails, the democrats own it and will suffer because of it. I would think that most people on this site would be cheer-leading it’s implementation.

            Unless people are worried about the possibility of it’s success-and the democrats would own that as well.

          • WTS/JAY

            It’s not if, it fails, Bob, it will, fail; and the Democrats will have no choice but to own it, and for you to suggest that we should be cheerleading it’s implementation so that when it fails we can gloat, is really infantile-behaviour indicative only of a Liberal-progressive! You obviously think very little of us, which begs the question; are you projecting?

          • Bob666

            Wow Jay

            “which begs the question; are you projecting”

            No, just being a realist.

          • WTS/JAY

            More like a “chit-disturber”.

          • Bob666

            What-ever Jay

      • smilee

        You made this one up

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is a video from Rand Paul about stopping all aid that is being used to war against Christians.
        http://www.rand-2016.com/swr_1011.aspx?pid=1011
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”
        Benjamin Franklin
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

      • NC

        wts, While you meant it as a joke, Carter, as fourth best, comes very close to his position amid the last ten Presidents for strength of the economy in his administration. I think he was rated 5th there! Better than Bush I, (10th), Nixon, Ike!
        This is in a study published IN A REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED MAGAZINE! FORBES!! YOU do remember Steven Forbes? Twice a candidate for the Republican nomination! I doubt that he would allow an article in HIS magazine that would lie about Republicans ! DO YOU??
        GO TO ” PRESIDENTS AND PROSPERITY” AT FORBES.COM FOR THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY!
        YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE”PRESIDENTS AND THE STOCK MARKET” AT THE SAME SITE! VERY INTERESTING!!
        You might want to ponder why the old saying that WALL STREET LOVES THE DEMOCRATS originated?
        For that go to “BULLS, BEARS, DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS”! ALSO VERY INTERESTING!!
        IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO OVERCOME THE LEGACIES OF THE WEAK ECONOMIES OF THE HOOVER, NIXON, BUSH I AND ESPECIALLY BUSH II WHOSE NUMBERS ARE NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE FRIST STUDY BECAUSE HE WAS STILL IN OFFICE AND MARCHING TOWARD THE RESULTS OF HIS WRETCHED NUMBERS! HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN 11TH PLACE JUST BELOW HIS DADDY!

    • Don 2

      Yo Bob,

      Nothing like quoting a report about wild animals mauling congress from former Huffington Post blogger, fake news and satire writer Andy Borowitz, to showcase libs playing nice.

      • Bob666

        Well Don,
        I put it out there for humor and it really applies to both sides of the isle. Did that point escape you or are you just looking for something to take a shot at?

        BTW-you believe that I am a liberal? now that was funny!

        • Don 2

          Well Bob,

          Shot #1 – If you put it out there strictly as humor, as you are now claiming, why didn’t you list the author, or indicate that it was a fake poll?

          Shot #2 – The point Bob, as we discussed before, is that it was put out there by a lib, and libs do not play nice, unless you consider using insatiable bloodthirsty animals to viciously maul, devour, and tear people limb from limb, and use hungry fire ants to eat people, as being nice?

          Applies to both sides? Coming from a lib, for other lib consumption, who the real target is, need not be actually put into words.

          BTW – No, I was not calling you a liberal. I have seen your proclamation enough times in the past.

          • Bob666

            You really do need to stop looking for faults, but faults are easy to find in anyone.

            the “Fake Poll” was so apparently fake that only a fool work think it was real. You obviously made the effort to Google it and determine it’s origin.

            You have to admit, that humor aside-he has a pretty good idea.

    • Don 2

      More satire from fake news and satirist Andy Borowitz, former blogger for the Huffington Post. Another lib ‘playing nice.’

  • Palin16

    OK Folks, just in time for Halloween, here’s my impersonation of Barack Obama:

  • Chuckb

    Ron666, “The shill for the Democratic/Marxist,Dictatorial Party” A constant barrage of propaganda, Yes Ron, People are disappointed in the Republicans for acting like a bunch of wimps. If they hold strong against all the Media Blitz, victory will be for, not the Republicans, for the American people. The majority of the people don’t want your O’Care.
    This kind of Government you are propagandizing failed in the Soviet Union and most places tried, For example “Cuba” after all these years is still living in the sixties, still a welfare Nation or maybe that’s what you and yours are looking for.

    • Bob666

      Who is Ron?

      • Chuckb

        Excuse me, I meant you, Bob666

        • Bob666

          ” “The shill for the Democratic/Marxist,Dictatorial Party” A constant barrage of propaganda”

          You really are a lost puppy. Never been a democrat and belonged to the GOP up until twenty-years ago when I registered as an independent (here in Florida-three choices).

          That is not propaganda my friend, that is cold hard reality.

          • Chuckb

            I beg to differ, it certainly is propaganda, You seem to delight in posting them all over these comment pages,

            These
            polls are selective, Don’t you think it’s kind of strange, when these
            polls show up at the same time Barry agrees to meet with the opposition.
            “Complicit”

            We get barraged with these kind of negative polls.
            They don’t show the CBS poll showing 76% against Barry and his HC bill.
            And furthermore, Governing by polls is democracy isn’t it? I thought we
            were a Republic.Representative Government.

            I dropped the Republican Party, They are doing just what caused me to lose faith in them. Boehner is a weak sister.

            and I doubt he will have the guts to hold out much longer,

            Most of this so called shutdown is a charade, we are not going into default, the government has sufficient tax receipts to pay our debts. Barry wants more money to prop up wall street and his welfare society, his army.

          • Bob666

            Wow,

            “I beg to differ, it certainly is propaganda, You seem to delight in posting them all over these comment pages”,

            No,
            Let’s call it shock therapy to get the attention of people like you who believe that someone is going to be knocking on your door to get your guns and take you to a FEMA camp. Yesterday I posted four separate polls from four diverse polling organizations. While the numbers were all a bit different-they all trended the same way and that was down for the GOP house members. How do you thing this will effect the mid-terms?

            At this rate, you are all but guaranteed to have Hillary Clinton for president if she chooses to run as the GOP keeps making a conscious decision to promote the greatest morons they can find. The bottom line is, the majority of voters in this country do not think like you do.

            So keep posting my friend, will you be accusing Hillary of stealing the election in 2017?

          • Chuckb

            First off, I don’t worry about the FEMA camps and I am not a conspiracy theorist. I do watch and read what I think is correct, not what the sheep herder wants me to think.

            Yes, Barry is trying to relieve me of my weapons, here in California, the liberal Democrats (Communist) have been making a concerted effort to disarm the population.They have full control of the State and gun Bills are laid on Moonbeam Browns desk almost daily and he’s signing most. It’s a matter of time.

            Barry is relieving from Command a lot of our top Generals, they are not receiving a hearing, .
            It looks to me like he’s getting rid of anyone who may decide to change the White House occupant
            .So how about some shock therapy for that.

            The polls prove nothing except twist the minds of weak thinking people and within six weeks it will all be forgotten, it will have no effect on the mid terms. The American people have short memories, if not, what chance would Hillary have . They have no idea today what a murderous witch she is.

            The average voter spends little time in watching what is happening in Washington, Sports and music are far
            more important, Most are so dumbed down by the education system, they couldn’t tell you what country they live in.
            So you are right, unfortunately, most people don’t think the way I do.

          • Bob666

            Let;s see,
            “I am not a conspiracy theorist”.

            “Yes, Barry is trying to relieve me of my weapons”,

            “Barry is relieving from Command a lot of our top Generals, they are not receiving a hearing, .
            It looks to me like he’s getting rid of anyone who may decide to change the White House occupant”

            “The polls prove nothing except twist the minds of weak thinking people and within six weeks it will all be forgotten”

            “The American people have short memories, if not, what chance would Hillary have” .

            “The average voter spends little time in watching what is happening in Washington”,

            “So you are right, unfortunately, most people don’t think the way I do”.

            On that last statement, I would agree with you.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Except that you are a Dem/Prog/Leftist because even an Independent leans to one side or the other.

          • Bob666

            Yo Nads,

            “Except that you are a Dem/Prog/Leftist because even an Independent leans to one side or the other”.

            You really do have a strange and bias slat towards life. I am in the middle, but tend to lean very conservative on physical issues and somewhat to the left on social issues since my libertarian leanings want to protect your rights as a woman pertaining to reproductive rights.

            I have to laugh at your efforts to call anyone you disagree with Dem/Prog/Leftist. I never have been a democrat and belonged to the GOP for over twenty-years.

            It is strange how you tend to label people without having any detailed knowledge about them.

            I hope you can find happiness one day as you are obviously a very miserable person.

    • smilee

      The majority of the people re-elected Obama knowing he would have the sole power to stop the GOP from destroying Obamacare. you would think they would respect the real will of the people as elections are the only real will of the people so can your BS

      • WTS/JAY

        The majority of Americans do not want obama-crap-care!

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama opposed ObamaCare on Ellen’s DeGeneres’ show in 2008…what a HYPOCRITE and LIAR extraordinaire!!!

    • smilee

      He is a compromiser, you are opposed to that?

      • WTS/JAY

        He’s an opportunist and a liar, smilee, and yes, i am opposed to that!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You mean that O wants everyone and everybody to come to his terms and do as he says.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Never mind smelly as he is a liar and has “0” credibility on this site. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden and Obama bin Laden Care. The first one tells about how the shutdown is actually killing Obama bin Laden Care. If this is true, then keep it shut down for a while longer.
      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/10/10/Dont-listen-to-the-media-shutdown-is-killing-obamacare
      http://www.communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ernest-istook-knowing-inside/2013/oct/10/how-do-you-negotiate-president-who-cannot-be-trust/#ixzz2hQuOtrYY
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “I concur with the author in considering the moral precepts of Jesus as more pure, correct, and sublime than those of ancient philosophers.”
      Thomas Jefferson

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Technically O did but Ocare was under a another name but everyone seems to have latched onto the name Ocare and it stuck, forever associating O with this monstrosity.
      If you remember that a national ID was to come into place, well Ocare may just do that.
      This Frankenstein’s monster is not coming together as the Dems/Progs/Leftists built it, so it may be shelved for a few years before it can be brought to life but this does not mean that they won’t be tweaking it.

  • Karolyn

    I’ve heard some interviews with Europeans over the past few days that show they think our government is a bunch of barbarians because of all the craziness going on in Washington. I think they might be onto something.

    • Bob666

      Yo Karolyn,
      Ya think?
      Sometimes the view from the outside is more objective.

      • Bill

        How about the viewpoint from countries that have strong economies and sound currencies, like Hong Kong and Singapore, instead of the European union that is only held up by Germany

        • Bob666

          There is a point to your post or a question?

          • Bill

            I thought you and Karolyn were discussing Europe’s viewpoint on our political situation. So, how about a viewpoint from countries that are financially strong.
            But I forgot, everything I say, you will try to bust my balls, so I won’t waste my time with you

          • Bob666

            Timothy Bancroft-Hinchey, Pravda, Moscow: “The display of utter childishness and total irresponsibility from the U.S. Congress, shutting down sections of the U.S. federal government, sending people home unpaid, giving workers four hours to clear out their offices before receiving a boot up the behind, is part of a wider issue: the divorce of the politicians from the people they represent. … Congress’ failure to approve the budget, for purely party political reasons … is a shining example of the sort of infantile games those who are supposed to be responsible play to further their own interests and feather their own nests.”

            http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/07/shutdown-obama-gop-congress-column/2939961/

          • Bob666

            Paul Rosenberg, Al Jazeera: “Republicans continue to falsely accuse the president of refusing to compromise because he won’t also agree to destroy — or at least undermine — his signature piece of legislation, Obamacare. … This is one of but many ways in which they delude themselves into thinking they represent a majority that simply does not exist, as they head down their path of destruction. … The only real question is just how many others they will drag down with them. … And what will it take to finally stop them?”

            http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/07/shutdown-obama-gop-congress-column/2939961/

          • Chuckb

            Wow Bob, now you have me really worried, the Taliban is concerned about our Government shutdown, really?
            Is our Government really shutdown? or just a small portion’ and the Bolsheviks want the hapless to think the world is coming to an end., some one please advise them Please!

          • Bob666

            You should be worried Chuckie.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Why? You have some esoteric knowledge that only you and USA today and O are privy to. Which means that you have NOTHING and are bluffing the American people.

          • Bob666

            Yo Nads,

            “You have some esoteric knowledge that only you and USA today and O are privy to”

            I’m not privy to anything that you don’t have access to Nads. As for “O” as you refer to him, I am not his supporter nor defender, but will point out when he is in fact right.

            Why are you such a narrow minded loon?

          • ChiefBoring

            You watch Al Jazeera?

          • Bob666

            Yo Chief,
            No, I do not watch Al Jazeera. I was quoting a piece from USA today.

          • ChiefBoring

            Oh, good. I was afraid some of Al Gore’s aura might rub off on you ! LOL

          • Bob666

            No Worries chief, we are good!

          • WTS/JAY

            That is false. The majority of Americans do not, want Obamacare! So much for Al Jazeera’s credibility!

          • Bob666

            Jay,

            That is an interesting comment.

            Many Americans still don’t realize that the Affordable Care Act and Obamacare is the same thing, according to a new poll.

            A deeper look inside the numbers appears to show the disconnect runs along party lines.

            In a survey of 1,000 voters last weekend, Public Policy Polling asked, “Do you have a more favorable opinion of Obamacare or the Affordable Care Act, or do you see them both equally?”

            Overall, 14 percent said they viewed Obamacare more favorably; 13 percent favored the Affordable Care Act while 62 percent saw them both equally.

            Obamacare is the political nickname that has been adopted for the Affordable Care Act. They are the same law.

            When breaking it down by party affiliation, more than 59 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats looked at the two equally. But there were plenty who seemed to not realize both are the same law.

            Democrats

            29 percent viewed Obamacare favorably

            9 percent viewed the ACA favorably

            10 percent were not sure

            Republicans

            22 percent viewed the ACA favorably

            6 percent viewed Obamacare favorably

            12 percent were not sure

            Independents seemed to have a better grasp of the situation. 75 percent saw both Obamacare and the ACA equally. Still, 6 percent favored Obamacare while 8 percent favored the ACA.

            http://www.kgw.com/news/Poll-Some-dont-know-Obamacare-Affordable-Care-Act-the-same-227228701.html

          • WTS/JAY

            Makes no difference what obama chooses to call it, Americans still don’t want it!

          • ChiefBoring

            The House passed a budget; the Senate refused to vote on it. The President refused to talk to either side. Hence no money. Eighty three % of the government is clicking right along. Only 17% is affected. BHO is refusing to lead, if he knows how.

          • WTS/JAY

            Very truthful! Thank you, Cheif!

          • Bill

            And your point is…

          • Bill

            Again, And your point is…..

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I hate to tell you Bob, but USA Today is a liberal rag of a newspaper and has as much credibility as a sand flea. Here is an article telling how Americans agree that our great country is being destroyed.
            http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/oct/10/only-17-percent-americans-think-us-right-track-pol/
            I agree with the 83% that says it is heading in the wrong direction. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of mankind.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            I hate to tell you Sammy,

            But that is now one of only five sources that I have posted that are very diverse. Yes, USA today is MacJournalism and I read this piece at a hotel the other morning during breakfast.

            But what they were doing is reporting what other news sources around the world were saying about the USA. You have always lived in a black-and white world and ignore information that might be accurate based on the source while taking information as being accurate in spite of the source.

            Sometimes, the “liberal” media gets it right. In this case, all media is reporting the same information and that is the GOP is taking a very big hit in opinion of the American public in this shutdown.

            I noticed that you ignored my response to you a couple of days ago when I took issue about the validity of your source that are reporting the opposite.

      • WTS/JAY

        You mean like, a mental-patient observing another mental-patient?

    • Chuckb

      Karolyn, Who the hell cares what Europe says. Tell me, which of these mostly Socialist countries can criticize our politics, when they are so screwed up with the same kind of policies that your hero is trying to shove down our throats.
      They have such prosperous economies, what a laugh.

      • Bob666

        Even the Taliban is mocking the federal government shutdown.

        The terrorist group that is fighting U.S. troops to return to power in Afghanistan accused politicians of “sucking the blood of their own people,” reported Agence France-Presse and Al-Arabiya news service.

        “The American people should realize that their politicians play with their destinies as well as the destinies of other oppressed nations for the sake of their personal vested interests,” said the statement issued by the Taliban.

        The White House ordered U.S. federal agencies last week to shut down and allow only “essential” employees to keep working after the House of Representatives passed a budget bill that fund the government but defunds Obamacare. The GOP-controlled House is asking President Obama to negotiate through the standoff, but he and the Democrat-controlled Senate have refused.

        The Taliban, an Islamic clerical movement that ran a brutal regime based on religious law in Afghanistan before it was toppled by a U.S.-led invasion, blamed “selfish and empty-minded American leaders” for the shutdown.

        It said U.S. politicians were guilty of taking U.S. citizens’ money “earned with great difficulty” and then “lavishly spending the same money in shedding the blood of the innocent and oppressed people.”

        “Instead of sucking the blood of their own people… this money should be utilized for the sake of peace,” it said, an apparent reference to the money spent keeping it from power.

        http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/10/10/taliban-mocks-us-government-shutdown/2957821/

        • Bob666

          Hisham Melhem, Al Arabiya: “The U.S. is … exceptional in an almost nihilistic way. … Shutting down the government is uniquely an American phenomenon, and there is nothing like it in the well-established Western democracies or the new emerging ones throughout the world. Even in ‘failed states’ or those infected with the disease of military coups, governments do not officially announce that they are ‘closed’ to business.”

          http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/07/shutdown-obama-gop-congress-column/2939961/

          • Palin16

            Bob, ya know what they say about people that talk to themselves.

          • Bob666

            No Palin,
            have a conversation with your self and get back with me.

          • smilee

            Your so intelligent!!

          • WTS/JAY

            Was that an insult, smilee?

          • Palin16

            The intelligent smilee says your instead of you’re, LOL!

          • Bob666

            So Palin,
            Are you saying that you have run out of in-depth comments and now you are moving on to grammar?

            That is pretty sad.

          • Palin16

            You betcha!

          • Bob666

            Pretty sad Palin,
            Perhaps we should start dissecting your quotes looking for superficial faults?

          • WTS/JAY

            You’re, not your, you putz!

          • smilee

            I think they say they are nut, don’t they!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Bob666, attempting to take over this site and believing that somehow you are smarter and wiser.

          • Bob666

            Yo Nads,

            “attempting to take over this site and believing that somehow you are smarter and wiser”.

            Not in the slightest, more opened-minded maybe, smarter and wiser, no.

            Are you attempting to make yet another point without any facts?

      • smilee

        They are doing better than we are in many ways, as an example they spend only half what we do on health care and most show better outcomes, we can learn from them rather than sticking our noses up in the air at them like you are doing. You just.listen to the far right propaganda as what you say is all their talking points but Europe is nothing like that. You have no real understanding of them.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Is this why so many of them are having bad economies because of the increasing cost of healthcare? Is this why Englands is broke and they are cutting back on what they cover to save money? Neeeeed to study a bit more before making yourself sound ridiculous. Here is some good news from the State of Alabama (Go brown rosie!).
          http://www.westernjournalism.com/alabama-supreme-court-may-collapse-obamas-house-cards/
          Just think, they could find Obama bin Laden ineligible to be president. If they did, what would happen next? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
          “To God and posterity you are accountable for your rights and your rulers.”
          Rev. Mathias Burnet

          • smilee

            The Propaganda Kid strikes again. Sammie they pay half of what we do for health with better outcomes , most of Europe’s money troubles stem from losses from american investment scams and much of Europe invested heavy in them and lost their butts and have not recovered yet. That was a lot of the problem in England, Iceland went bankrupt over it and it was big in Greece, Italy, Spain and others, those who did not invest have done fine , Norway has boomed and most of Scandinavia has, Canada and some others too. Health Care had nothing to do with it. You have a big mouth for such a little brain as you would understand it. That political lawsuit in Alabama will fail to as they all have. They were filed to give false hope to idiots like you and keep you on board.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The political lawsuit in Alabama may not fail. If it doesn’t, just think of the results. Shockwaves will be felt across the nation and all real Americans will be celebrating. Here are 2 more articles about Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/college-grad-says-obamacare-has-raped-my-future-in-viral-letter/
            http://www.visiontoamerica.com/16008/obamacare-marketplace-personal-data-can-be-used-for-law-enforcement-and-audit-activities/
            I guess that young people waking up to Obama bin Laden Care and privacy issues are not important to the libturds and progturds. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “Our liberty depends on our education, our laws, and habits…it is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers.”
            Fisher Ames
            Framer of the 1st Amendment
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            The propaganda kid strikes again spreading his filth and lies!!!!!

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the liar is lying again!!!!

          • WTS/JAY

            This European debt crisisyou keep hearing about didn’t form overnight and didn’t come from nowhere. Europe has had troubles for years and they’re just now coming to a crisis point. And even the $1 trillion bailout won’t make these problems go away.

            Here are five reasons why Europe is sick:

            1. It has terrible growth demographics:

            Europe is an older, affluent population. Which means it essentially is static, if not stagnant. Economic growth comes from young people — some who are unskilled, some who are innovators, all of whom are willing to work for less money than their elders. According to the United Nations, Europe is the only continent where the number of people ages 15 to 59 will decrease over the next 40 years. Europe also will experience a decline in the birth rate over the next four decades. By comparison, take a look at India, which has terrific growth demographics. By 2020, says the U.S. government, nearly 60 percent of the country will be younger than 24.

            2. Someone has to pay for all those older Europeans:

            Much has been written about Greece’s profligate welfare state, and that is true. But Greece is not alone. Most European citizens enjoy cradle-to-grave government entitlements, even in prosperous nations such as Germany and France. The austerity measures imposed on Greece in order to get the bailout will only make living conditions worse for that nation, and the rest of Europe will have to go through similar belt-tightening or else get their debt ratings downgraded, which is something even Britain has been warned about.

            3. Europe has treated its immigrants poorly:

            Immigration to, from and within Europe is part of the continent’s character. But nationalistic European nations hold their immigrants at arm’s length and others are outright hostile toward them. Consider recent legislation in Belgium and France that would prohibit the wearing of full burqas by Muslim women. Remember the Muslim riots in the French suburbs in 2005. Here’s a good recent piece from Newsweek pointing out why immigrants are crucial to Europe’s future and why European nations can no longer treat them as they have. Newsweek writes:

            “Most European countries tried to protect homegrown labor by shutting out foreign workers. The efforts mostly backfired, encouraging a massive influx of illegal aliens, who tend to accept rock-bottom wages and benefits because they have no legal recourse. At the same time, Europe’s generous social benefits encouraged a massive surge of ‘welfare tourism.’ ”

            4. The euro has been a restraint, not a liberator:

            The euro, which was introduced in 1995 and circulated in coin and paper in 2002, was supposed to create a pan-European economic superpower, eliminating all those messy currency exchanges between nations. Didn’t happen. It turns out that currency exchanges were never really a problem. What turned out to be a real problem — as euro foes predicted at the time — was that a common currency prevents individual nations from determining their monetary policy. When the U.S. was in crisis in 2008, the Federal Reserve turned on the money spigot and the Treasury printed billions in new money. This can lead to inflation, but it also stemmed a pending liquidity crisis. The 16 nations of the Eurozone do not have that power. They can set their own budgets and rake in their own revenue, but they cannot inflate or deflate their own currency. If Greece were still on the drachma, Athens could inflate its way out of this crisis, effectively reducing the amount of debt it owes. It wouldn’t be pretty, but it also wouldn’t require a $1 trillion bailout.

            5. Europe’s only as strong as its weakest link:

            The other downside of a common currency is that it links weak economies, such as Greece’s, with strong ones, such as Germany’s. The hope was always that the stronger Eurozone nations would elevate their weaker partners. But, as with so many things in life, the weaker element is dragging down the stronger. This creates natural resentment in Germany: The Parliament put itself in political danger by voting to approve that nation’s portion of the bailout, as many Germans opposed it. Further, it creates incentive to kick out the weaker members of the Eurozone, such as Greece. That may not be the worst idea, at least temporarily, but it certainly would contribute to the impression that the euro and the Eurozone are increasingly unstable.

            http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2010/05/this_european_debt_crisis_you.html

          • smilee

            You are responding to rhetoric and producing some yourself but not to any fact!!

          • WTS/JAY

            The facts speak for themselves, smilee; but what would you know about facts? Stick to lying, smilee, that is what you do best!

          • WTS/JAY

            You just hate facts, don’t you, smilee? Of course you do!

        • Chuckb

          You have that : “They are doing better than we are in many ways” in the wrong context,

          They are doing better than we, they don’t have Obama,

          Just think of what they are missing, maybe we could send them Moochella as a Lend Lease., Do you think they would go for that?, I doubt it, the first vacation she took with her entourage would break their bank and zippo! she’d be back in DC.
          by the time your Messiah gets through with this country, you may have a point..

          • NC

            Chuck b, what would you say the chances are that Michele Obama, in the real world, is better liked than Laura Bush, Nancy Reagan, Sarah Palin or even Hillary Clinton!? I’m talking about the whole real world not just here in RIGHT WING HEAVEN!!

          • smilee

            That would drive all the racists and bigots crazy!!

          • WTS/JAY

            For sure, and NC is halfway there. Is it your wish to join him, or did you already get there ahead of him?

          • WTS/JAY

            Only a racist-bigot would ponder such nonsense. Why do you ponder such nonsense, NC?

          • smilee

            Silly spin, irreverent to anything being talked about here. My post was on health care nothing else.Your post is all BS and not deserving of any responsible response as it would validate BS and I have no interest in doing that.

        • WTS/JAY

          Europe is on the verge of collapse, smilee. They are in no better shape than we are. In fact, i would say they are in worse shape than we are.

          • smilee

            They will if we do and that is why it is so stupid for the house GOP to play this dangerous game of chicken and hold us and the world hostage.

          • WTS/JAY

            Reid is the reason for the shutdown, smille. Congress provided all the funding to keep government functioning except, funding for obama-crap-care. Reid refused…so Reid, is responsible for the government shutdown!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            True that! True that! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is an article that shows veterans defying Obama bin Laden, overrunning barricades, and taking them to Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/13/Barricades-moved-WH
            Palin and Ted Cruz were there. This was a good and right thing for them to do. It goes along with our Christian founding fathers. I could just imagine the look on the faces of Obama bin Laden and Moochelle. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate – look to his character. When a citizen gives his suffrage to a man of known immorality he abuses his trust; he sacrifices not only his own interest, but that of his neighbor, he betrays the interest of his country.”
            Noah Webster

      • nc

        Chuckb, ?You ask who the hell cares what Europe says. Have you read the latest out of China They are asking the rest of the world to consider DeAmericanizing the world economy. If they fear default on the 1.2 trillion they hold in our debt and Europe feels that the threats of default here show a country in gridlock and fall in line with China you will see who the Hell cares what Europe thinks!
        We will go back to a level two nation in world economic matters and become the small government nation you want so much because you conservatives do not understand the amount of government necessary to run and trade as a nation of 315 million people!
        What you don’t understand is that what their religion is does not make a black rats A$$! If they choose to side with China and trade there instead here we become weaker by their choice! The more nations that choose that course the weaker we become.
        Why is the Muslim world too important to curse and make fun of? There are 50 plus nations in the world controlled by Muslim governments and 1.6 billion scattered around the world! THEY ARE IMPORTANT IN THE WORLD SCHEME OF THINGS! MORE SO MAYBE THAN THOSE LIVING IN A FREE COUNTRY BEHIND A SIGN THAT SAYS >”CONSERVATIVE PREPPER LIVING HERE! NO TRESSPASSING!! WE HAVE DROPPED OUT BECAUSE THE GREAT BIG WORLD SCARES US!!”

        • Don 2

          nc,
          You already have your Communist flag on display, so stop your bellyaching. Did you libs really think that this borrowing from Communist China and printing dollars was going to go on forever without consequence? Plant a few banana trees so that you have something to barter with. Welcome to the future Obamaland…..home of the serfs….by design.

          • NC

            Don 2, I fly the American Flag, have served in the American Military BY CHOICE, have taken an oath on four different occasions to support and defend OUR country and Our Constitution and in my 78 years have never once had anyone to question my loyalty to that OATH!
            WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OPINION OF WHAT THE FOUNDING FATHERS MEANT WHEN THEY WROTE THAT THEY WERE ESTABLISHING A NATION “FOR THE PEOPLE” AS WELL AS :-“OF THE PEOPLE: AND “BY THE PEOPLE”. WE HAVE NEVER LET OUR PEOPLE STARVE IN THE STREETS AND THAT STARTS WITH CHILDREN GOING HUNGRY!

          • Don 2

            nc,

            Having previously served in the military is honorable and I thank you for that. However, that in and of itself does not mean that you have your head on straight these days. You may wave the American flag at home, but you talk Socialist/Communist themes here. We’re going to end up a banana republic, get use to the idea. Think Argentina 1999.

            You know nc, Obama might slap an American flag lapel pin on once in awhile to avoid future criticism, but anyone who has paid attention knows damn well that he doesn’t do it because he is a proud American.

    • smilee

      I was in Europe a little while back and that is all I heard from them, they think we are nuts. They are right. The tea party has upset the apple cart and need to be taken down.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Depends on what kind of people you associated with, Karolyn, and what countries you went to. But no matter, Europe is already in the throngs of the New Dark Ages. You are also telling us that you associated with America hating Socialists/Leftists.

        • Karolyn

          Reading comprehension again, Nadzieja. I said I heard some interviews.

          • Bob666

            Yo Karolyn,
            I often wonder what color the sky is in Nad’s demented little world?

          • WTS/JAY

            Tall order, Bob. Karolyn is still trying to figure out what colour to paint the sky in her world.

          • WTS/JAY

            It would be better if you posted the sources, Karolyn, rather than expecting bloggers to take your word for it…you know, “hear-say” is always suspect and always inadmissible in a courtroom.

    • WTS/JAY

      Hmm, Socialist-European-barbarians criticizing Americans; what a bunch of hypocrites!

  • Karolyn

    Bill Moyers take on the debacle in Washington:

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/07-11

    • WTS/JAY

      Here’s an interesting response to the article from one of the bloggers @commondreams:

      d-dectiri says:

      The deal that was asked — and rejected by Obama/Reid — was SIMPLY TO DELAY THE PEOPLE-SIDE OF THAT GLORIOUSLY FLAWED BILL.. which MOYER IS OBFUSCATING IN ORDER TO REBUILD HIS OWN REPUTATION.. shame of moyers…

      The Obama side had already delayed the corporate side ILLEGALLY,, What the Republicans are doing IS AT LEAST CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGAL, unlike Obama’s executive re-writing of the law to favor employers’ wealth.

      I hear that the programming team that put together the website to process people is NONFUNCTIONAL and few people got even a semblance of an application done and that data isn’t even wholesomely in the proper database.. THE REALITY IS THAT THE PEOPLE SIDE IS NOT READY, WHETHER IT’S A MONSTROSITY OR NOT..

      There’s even the possibility that the data being entered included personal, financial, banking and SS# data, all nicely attached to your IP address, now just wasting away likely in the hands of NSA… so thank Obama for going ahead with nothing PROPERLY TESTED AND VERIFIED AS SECURE FOR YOUR VITAL DATA

      Moyers is running around shrieking like a chicken without his head, mouthing smoke instead of FACING THE REALITY.. ttyl

      • Karolyn

        I’d love to hear a response to that from Moyers.

        • WTS/JAY

          It would most likely be the usual and one-sided, by-partisan rhetoric…blah blah blah, democrats are the good guys, republicans are the bad guys. Good grief!

          • smilee

            That is your specialty he uses only the truth and to liar such as you that is always one sided,

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Argument to ridicule. Sheesh! Iswear your cognative skills of debate are vanishing before your eyes. But alas! We expected nothing less from a traitorous troll. Here are 2 articles that show how bad Obama bin Laden really is and how Obama bin Laden is kicking the elderly out of their houses. Some good American. More like an Indonesian citizen.
            http://www.joeforamerica.com/2013/10/new-numbers-spell-trouble-obamacare/
            http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/10/pure-evil-obama-is-kicking-senior-citizens-out-of-their-homes-until-shutdown-ends/
            Looks like your ilk doesn’t care about the elderly or the average American. But alas! What did we expect from traitors? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “This (legislature) observing that not withstanding our former orders made for the education of children…there are many persons unable to read the English tongue, and thereby incapable of reading the Holy Word of God or the good laws of this (State).”
            Conneticut Literacy Law
            1690
            *We need to get our Bibles and prayers back into our schools and kick out the libturd/progturd nonsense.

          • smilee

            The propaganda kid strikes again spreading his filth and lies!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Source? Source? Source? Source? Source?
            Source? Source? Source? Source? Source?
            Just another attempt at ridicule and duck and cover, but you have failed miserably. Here is an article abut what Mitt Romney said about Obama bin Laden. He hit the nail on the head.
            http://www.eaglerising.com/2219/mitt-romney-right-president-obama-doesn‘t-work/
            Here are 2 articles about the unconstitutional Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.eaglerising.com/2221/theres-nothing-affordable-affordable-care-act/
            http://www.eaglerising.com/2202/will-credit-score-impact-healthcare-coverage/
            Neeeeed to get your head out of the sand before it is too late. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “It is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securly stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.”
            John Adams
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            2nd President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            The propaganda kid strikes again spreading his filth and lies!! The obvious needs no source because it is so obvious!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Yes, it is obvious that you have no grasp of the subject at hand nor do you have a grasp on reality. Here are some articles about a possible presidential candidate in 2016.
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/cruz-interrupted-seems-obamas-paid-political-operatives-are-out-force-today
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/curz-im-going-be-going-white-house
            Seems we could have our first Hispanic president. At least this one goes strictly by the Constitution, unlike the current Indonesian citizen who only believes in tearing it up more. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The Law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes…of universal-application laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation which ever professed any code of laws.”
            John Quincy Adams
            6th President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            “The propaganda kid strikes again spreading his filth and lies!!”

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the lying snake, lies again!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Since China has risen to be an economic and more military power in the world, here is an article where China is talking about how the world should be without an America in it.
            http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/513431/20131013/china-debt-ceiling-shutdown-xinhua-de-emericanised.htm
            I guess that Obama bin Laden will let this happen. He and smelly are the same kind of people, liars and fools. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “I desire to bless and praise the name of God most high for appointing me my birth in a land of Gospel Light where the glorious tidings of a Savior and a pardon and salvation through Himhave been continually sounding in my ears.”
            Robert Treat Paine
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian

          • WTS/JAY

            You’re a lying snake, smilee!

          • WTS/JAY

            Liars hate the truth, and that’s why you hate Sam, smilee, because he tells the truth.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thank you fellow patriot and keep up the good fight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Palin16

            copy and pasting again smelly?

          • WTS/JAY

            Can’t be too harsh on poor Bill, as Bill has Alzymere’s. What’s your excuse, smilee? Oh, that’s right, you’re a liar!

        • smilee

          Bill would make mined meat of him, the truth is very powerful and he knows how to use it. wtsjay is one of the biggest liars on here. Bill.s obit is polite nothing like the crude manner of wtsjay.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You throw the word “truth” around that supposedly Moyers and you are paragons of telling. But your standard for truth is suspect.

        • WTS/JAY

          Bill Moyers is a Liar…

    • Chuckb

      Yes Karolyn,

      Everyone should read and listen to the worlds greatest LIBERAL. Everyone is wrong, Rush is wrong, Palin is wrong, What a guy.

      The typical liberal know nothing.
      Palin was right about the death panels and Rush was right about the tax in Ocare. It’s so funny, every liberal ridicules Rush and they all call him a liar, yet, I see no one proving it. He’s the one on top and he didn’t get there by lying.
      Bill Moyers is a nobody, so who cares what Moyers thinks.

      • smilee

        He tells the truth they do not, being liberal is irrelevant to the truth, The truth is the truth. You and them are the liars and if you have to lie to try and win your case you are the real no nothings.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Argument to ridicule. Now be a good little boy and take your psychotropic medications. Just a foolish troll. Bill Moyer tells the truth? Ha, ha, ha, ha! He is the same for libturds and progturds as Rush Limbaugh is for conservatives and the GOP. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. BTW, why don’t you go back to church and seek God and Jesus. They are the only ones that can help you now. Here is an article about how Spain is dealing with the large influx of Muslims and mosques in their Christian nation.
          http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4012/spain-mosques
          This hurts the friends of Obama bin Laden and his fellow believers in that false faith. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
          “I shall now conclude my discourse by preaching the Savior to all that hear me, and entreating you in the most earnest manner to believe in Jesus Christ; for ‘there is no salvation in any other (Acts 4:12).'”
          Rev. John Witherspoon

          • smilee

            . The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth. The big difference between Bill and Rush is Bill always tells the truth and Rush always lies just like you. You sure earned the title “The Propaganda Kid” Do you think Jesus is ok with all your lies?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            If Bill always tells the truth, then I’m Pope Samurai 1. Speaking you Jesus, do you think he is OK with your lies? An atheist asking such an ignorant question. Here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden is using Gestapo tactics against tourists at Yellowstone.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/gestapo-tactics-used-on-americans-at-yellowstone/
            Feels kind of bad that the pretender in office should use such tactics against tourists, now doesn’t it? If you don’t agree with me on this one, then you are a traitor. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “Let not your children have reason to curse you for giving up those rights and prostrating those institutions which your fathers delivered to you.”
            Rev. Mathias Burnet

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Smilee, take a break, relax and have a fun:

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee, take a break, relax and go see your shrink.

          • smilee

            Does this mean you want to return to tit for tat which you begged me not to engage in with you. I respected your wishes you apparently want it to be one sided. To your concerns I am relaxed and having fun. If this continues I will return. Don’t then complain

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            WWWWWhhhhhaaaaahhhhh! Would you like a little cheese to go with that whine? Here is an article telling facts about how Obama bin Laden Care is imploding. Thank God!
            http://www.capitolhilldaily.com/2013/10/obamacare-exchanges-imploding/#more
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “If you pass the law, the judges are put there veto upon it by declaring it unconstitutional? Here is contended for a new power of a dangerous and uncontrollable nature. The power which has the right of passing – without appeal – on the validity of law is your Sovereign (GOD).”
            John Randolph
            U.S. Senator
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth. Should I send you a crying towel and a sympathy card?

          • S.C.Murf

            You young man need to grow up. Act like an adult and maybe just maybe you’ll be treated like you want to be treated (the prissy little girl you see in the mirror)

            up the hill
            airborne

          • smilee

            Another who stupidly assumes. I am far to old and wise for you to comprehend, I am a senior citizen who accurately defines sammie and the truth is very important to some but apparently not to you, Sometimes the truth is ugly

          • Vigilant

            S.C Murf was referring to your mental age, not your chronological age.

            No fool like an old fool.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Smilees, first of all I NEVER do or did beg anyone for anything, but God. I just said to you:

            “Smilee, I do not think we should to continue [our debate] because it’s going back and forth. I will not convince you and you will not convince me. My life experience is not
            your life experience.”

            Yes, you respected and you agreed with me. But what it has to do with the funny video I sent you?

            There is NOTHING indicated against you. Or you have no sense of humor as any liberal? Then sorry, and I just will stay away from you as I did before.

            I am glad you are relaxed (but I am doubt the person on the computer from 9:00am to 1:00am is relaxed). But you right, it’s not my business, but for your information I am
            not afraid of your “returns”, so do not threaten me. Your “returns” just showing your weakness and NOTHING more.

            I wish the best for you and yours, Smilee.

            P.S. Smilee, I am not afraid of you or anyone. Just of my God.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. You don’t need to be affraid of smelly as he is just a liar. Here is an article that descibes how Obama bin Laden thinks and what reality really is.
            http://www.patriotupdate.com/articles/didnt-build-mountain-mr-president-cant-shut/
            Did you have a good weekend? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A man who lives only for revenge keeps his own wounds green.”
            Sir Francis Bacon
            *Maybe this is why smelly is always lying and trying to cut people off at the knees.

          • smilee

            I check every couple hours but am not on steady please no assumption they make you look silly. A lot of this post is just that.

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            It just “makes me look silly”, but you are one who REALLY is SILLY.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            As opposed to your secularist, left wing wacko propaganda? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. If what I have said is lies, go into detail and tell me what lies I have told. Go sentence by sentence of every source I have posted, tell why it is a lie, and post some sources to back up what you are saying. If you cannot do this, probably won’t do this, due to you being a lazy bully, then your post will be nothing but ridicule and lies. Now go home and leave the thread. Unlike you traitor, we are trying to get this great country back on the track that our Christian founding fathers put us on. Not the wide path that leads to destruction that you want us to go down. Here is an article about how what the House is doing is what our Christian founding fathers envisioned.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/houses-stand-against-obamacare-working-just-way-framers-envisioned/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If ‘Thou shalt not covet,’ and ‘Thou shalt not steal,’ were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society, before it could be civilized or made free.”
            John Adams
            *How do you like your spanking by the patriots so far, hmmm?

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth. I am not a secularist I’m a Christian and believe in separation of church and state as the Constitution requires and it is Christian to respect all beliefs, we are suppose to witness not be dictators like you advocate. Your lie 100% of the time so it is not necessary to go sentence by sentence. The Founding fathers founded our government on the biggest compromise ever. It had Christians in it but they did not prevail in getting things 100% their way so they compromised and they left much undone and they knew it. They were realists not idiots like you are.

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee claims to be a Christian then proceeds to call everyone who disagrees with him, idiots. Next you’ll be burning witches, hey smilee?

          • Bob666

            Jay,
            I am not here to take up for Smilee, but you could say that about many of the conservative bible quoters on this site

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You already lied as soon as you went passed Jay,.

          • Bob666

            [comment has been edited]

            What specifically did I lies about?

            Let me know when arrive at a lucid thought.

            It’s very interesting Nads how make such accusations and never-ever back those accusations up?

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            Nadzieja, WHAT a surprise – a son of “two christian parents” with the Satan’s DNA is LYING. Just UNBELIEVABLE!!!

          • Guest

            Oh yea, who is talking to you, STUPID FILTHY MANURIAL FLY of the 13 generation out of 14 still squeaking.

          • Bob666

            It’s kind of funny porker,
            You have said on several occasions that you could care less what I think, yet you always feel a need to respond and have the last word or respond to my post to other people.

            Once an old Commie Propagandist-always a commie propagandist.

            don’t forget to vote me down a couple of more times!

          • Bob666

            Forget which account you were using again Porktoberfest?

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Bob666,

            You and Alondra should take your playground antics elsewhere. They are silly and nonproductive and in violation of the comment policy.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Bob666

            Point made Bob

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Alondra,

            You and Bob666 should take your playground antics elsewhere. They are silly and nonproductive and in violation of the comment policy.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Bob666

            Yo Nads,
            You never did say What “I lied about”?

            Just another unsubstantiated Nad’s Comment -out of many?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You have not proven me to be lying. We are to witness, but also to proselytize. Separation of church and state is a lie, for there is no mentioning of it in the Constitution or any of our founding dcouments.
            “Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
            John Adams
            How about remembering what Washington said in his farewell address? You know, morality and religion are the two supports of civil government? If anyone tries to remove these from government, they are not a patriot. We were set up to not have government influence religion, but have religion influence government. They were of different denominations, true that, but that is as far as you go with the truth. They wrote down the ideas that they would all agree with, but what was left undone? Nothing. Remember also how Benjamin Franklin called for prayer during the Convention? How they would go to a church across the street for a prayer service, this is organized religion so he was no deist, and then would start their deliberating on what should be in our Constitution. God is also mentioned in all 4 of our founding documents and references to Jesus are mentioned in 3 of them. For you to say you are a Christian then say all this crap shows you are the liar, not I. Here is a video about how the crowd reacted when Marco Rubio talked about Jesus is God. He is right, of course.
            http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/10/crowd-erupts-upon-hearing-marco-rubios-comments-jesus/
            This is what America is about and not the libturd/progturd nonsense flowing from your mouth. You should just keep your lies to yourself. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out liar and traitor.
            “”History is God’s providence in human affairs.”
            Daniel Webster
            U.S. Senatior
            Secretary of State
            “Defender of the Constitution”
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth. You quote many person’s opinions but never what the Constitution actually says but I understand you do not understand it. When it comes to the Constitution you spin it fit your bias and thus more lies from your mouth.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            If I’m lying, then why isn’t anyone agreeing with you? People tend to agree with someone they know is telling the truth. When will you ever learn and stop your lies, rhetoric, innuendo, and hate towards things that are opposte of what you believe? You’re beginning to sound like a sociopath. They are not good people. You are told to be quiet and move on. Here are 2 articles about Obama bin Laden Care and Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12856/obama-continues-treasonous-support-muslim-brotherhood/
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12863/prominent-black-man-compares-obamacare-slavery-communism/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “I believe the Bible to be the written word of God and to contain in it the whole rule of faith and manners.”
            Robert Treat Paine
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth. On this site? You have lots of lying friends on here so why should they not agree with you? Idiots stick together and lie together. Not impressed with your BS

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the liar is lying again.

          • WTS/JAY

            I think Satan loves you for all the lies you tell, smilee.

        • Chuckb

          How would you know when Bill Moyers is telling the truth?
          What he says is his opinion. A very Liberal opinion
          He certainly wasn’t telling the truth on the page I read. or should I say his opinion was very wrong. Of course most people that listen to his nonsense wouldn’t know either way.

          • smilee

            When ones describes what is really going on that is the truth, he does that so he is telling the truth. His opinion then is the truth! The truth is neither liberal or conservative it is simply true. You cannot listen to only lies and then expect to recognize the truth when it is shown to you, you have to have an open mind and yours is closed.

          • Chuckb

            Yes Smilee, closed to yours

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the liar preaching about telling the truth. Now that’s rich!

          • Jana

            But you listen to mostly lies and believe them and then spout them off as truth. This is the problem that most liberals have.

          • Karolyn

            How about all the lies spread by conservatives via email and online blogs that are never checked out prior to believing as fact? It does happen on any side. When somebody agrees with what one believes, he is more likely to pass that info along without verifying. Human nature, I guess; and it is not only relegated to liberals. Before spreading any info, it is wise to check it out as much as possible. Unfortunately, it is hard to find out what is truth because there are so many that want to bend it.

          • Jana

            The difference is when a Liberal finds out it is a lie they figure out how to twist it to make it a convenient truth. When a conservative finds out they were wrong they generally admit it. You will find exceptions to this occasionally on both sides however.

          • Karolyn

            I have never seen anyone recapitulate when I have found a rumor to be false. It is always met by twisting or silence.

          • Bob666

            Followed by an excuse as to why the email was right even when it was proven wrong.

          • Jana

            First of all you have to prove it from a website that is respected by both sides, not just a leftist side. Some sites we won’t believe and some sites the left won’t believe. It goes both ways.

        • WTS/JAY

          What would a liar like you know anything about the truth, smilee?

        • Jana

          smilee you said it right. Being liberal is irrelevant to the truth.
          That explains it perfectly. So out of your own post we know that truth and liberal are opposites.

          • WTS/JAY

            Jana: smilee you said it right. Being liberal is irrelevant to the truth.

            This is the only time that smilee has actually told the truth. Good catch, btw!

          • smilee

            “He tells the truth they do not, being liberal is irrelevant to the truth, The truth is the truth”

            Please do not take my statements out of context as that makes you a liar!

          • Jana

            We didn’t! Being liberal is irrelevant to the truth is a normal Liberal way of life. The truth means nothing to a liberal. What is new about that???

          • smilee

            YOUR FULL OF CHHITT

          • Jana

            I don’t talk to you that way smilee, and I don’t appreciate you talking to me that way. If you cannot talk nice then don’t talk to me at all!!!!!

          • smilee

            So do not talk to me, I do not care as you never say anything important anyhow!

          • Jana

            Well, being as you can’t take the truth that is one thing, but you being a garbage mouth is totally something else. This is a blog, where we are supposed to communicate, but when you can’t come up with something besides foul language, it shows your intelligence is lacking greatly!

          • smilee

            LOL, Communicate?? you have never done that!!

          • WTS/JAY

            LOL, LIE??? That’s all you ever do, smilee!!

          • WTS/JAY

            And you call yourself a Christian, smilee?

          • WTS/JAY

            You needn’t worry about that, smilee, we couldn’t jerk that out of context if we tried. ROFLMAO!!!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          How do you know that Moyers tells the truth? Wishful believing on your part does not count.

    • smilee

      He hits the nail on the head!

      • WTS/JAY

        I think someone hit him squarely on head with a hammer when he was very small.

        • smilee

          You think??? not possible!!

          • WTS/JAY

            What other explanation could there be, smilee, Alzymere’s? Or maybe that he’s a bi-partisan lying scum-bag like some people i know? I won’t mention any names…smilee.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

  • Karolyn

    Another interesting opinion piece

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/10/09-9.

    • WTS/JAY

      And another interesting response to the article from one of the bloggers.

      Norton_Fort says:

      One thing this article doesn’t say and should is that both Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson (Obama’s appointees to the Simpson-Bowles Deficit Reduction Commission, otherwise known as “the Catfood Commission”) are, along with Pete Peterson, members of “the Fix the Debt” Commission. The article’s link to the Nation’s cover story makes this point, but it should have been brought up in the article itself, IMO, to make clear Obama’s connection to the Fix the Debt Commission, whose primary goal is to reduce and then privatize the social safety net.

    • Palin16

      Karolyn, why did Obama say that Charleston, South Carolina is along the Gulf Coast?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. We all know that the libturds and progturds are a sub-human kind of being, but I didn’t think that one of them would call for martial law to break the government shutdown. Libturd Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee has called for this and I think she must be doing a white, powdery controlled substance. Ooops! Didn’t Barry Soretoro do that also?
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/sheila-jackson-lee-suggests-martial-law-end-government-shutdown-sort/
        Here is another one about making Americans into good little communists.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/creation-good-little-communists-iii-socialized-medicine-death-panels-devaluation-life/
        I guess that the days, as are written in the Book of Revelation, are drawing closer. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Christ Jesus – the promise of old made unto the fathers, the hope of Israel (Acts 28:20), the light of the world (John 8:12), and the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth (Romans 10:4) – is the only Savior of sinners, in oppositions to all false religions and every uninstituted rite; as He Himself says: “I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by Me (John 14:6).
        Rev. John Witherspoon

        • smilee

          -The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth-

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the lying snake, lies again.

          • Palin16

            blah blah blah!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You must be a pop up target. Shoot it down and it pops back up again. If all you are going to do is repeat yourself and post personal attacks, you can just stay home and let the real patriots fight for this country. Here is an article that tells how hospitals are or may be cutting jobs due to Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.weaselzippers.com/2013/10/13/hospitals-cutting-thousands-of-jobs/
            Looks like your program will not only cost people their jobs, but will affect the care they get at hospitals. What a waste! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “I don’t know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”
            George H. W. Bush
            41st President of the U.S.

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the lying snake strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Stop lying, shut up, and go home, no credibility traitor. Here is an article about how Ted Cruz may run for president in 2016.
            http://www.capitolhilldaily.com/2013/10/ted-cruz-obamacare/#read
            This would be great if it happened. Having a person in the White House that actually knows and goes by the Constitution. Unlike the current Indonesian citizen we have now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “A man that refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”
            Sir Francis Bacon
            *You should try to learn from this quote, as you fit it quite well.

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy,
            “Stop lying, shut up, and go home”,
            Not your web-site and not your place to say that to anyone.

            Call this a friendly reminder about something called the first amendment.

          • smilee

            The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!!!!! Dream on sucker, we will turn your dream into a niightmare in 16

          • S.C.Murf

            Anything and everything you have to offer is a nightmare smelly. TIME to make that popping sound kid

            up the hill
            airborne

          • smilee

            No it is not,just in your dreams

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the lying snake strikes again, spreading his lies and filth!

      • Chuckb

        What do think Palin?
        He just repeats what the teleprompter shows him, do you expect him to know anything, come on! after all it’s the same coast line, it just bends around a little bit.
        Give the guy a break, they probably didn’t reach him Geography in his Madrasah, only how to avoid eating pork when you are acting like a Christian.

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        The same reason why he said that he “traveled 57 states with one left to go” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u3PteRPLys

        Or that in Austria people speak “Austrian” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1diNthezRk

        Or that Hawaii is in Asia and not in the Polynesia in the central Pacific Ocean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9hPXHD4WH0

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    On September 18, 2013, pRresident Barack Hussein Obama was convicted of defrauding the American people with regard to his eligibility to be president by his having submitted a forged birth certificate to state and federal officials. This resulted in his being elected to the Office of the Presidency in 2008 and 2012. Simply put, Obama is not a natural born citizen born in the United States to two American parents and therefore he is ineligible to be president under the U.S. Constitution. He lied about his birth certificate and was sentenced by a citizens’ court to ten years in prison for his false statements.

    In light of this conviction, and the many atrocities Obama has committed against the United States of America, as evidenced by what he terms as “phony scandals” ranging from Benghazi-gate, to NSA-gate, to IRS-gate, to Fast and Furious-gate, to Obamacare-gate, to Navy Seal-gate, and his allegiance to radical Islam over American interests, he must now be forced to leave office so that freedom can be restored to the nation.

    As a result, we are calling upon all patriots to Occupy Washington on November 19th and to peacefully shut the city down until Obama agrees to leave office. Construction workers, bikers, truckers, doctors, lawyers, students, clergy, and all persons who see our nation slipping away from us under this president are summoned to appear and give testimony to their grievances. http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/occupy-washington-on-november-19-and-demand-that-obama-resig

    Fiat justitia ruat caelum & Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis
    So HELP us God!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      How about history teachers and decorated combat veterans? I’ll check out the link and see if I can attend. Here is a poem about Obama bin Laden that I have found on the internet and boy isn’t it the truth!

      “The Story Ends…”

      Jesus looks down upon you
      With fire in His eyes

      The blood of the sacrificed are on your hands
      Security breached Navy Seals die

      The future is sold your vision is bold
      So the people are told

      Courts and Congress stand idly by
      Those who tell the truth have nothing to hide

      Fundamental transformation almost complete
      You plot, you position, you sow, you reap

      Children and wife are by your side?
      But will you sleep tonight?

      A change of course a guilty plea
      It’s not too late to make amends

      Cause We the People already know
      You’ve sealed your fate The story ends…

      Doesn’t this just tell it all? Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

      • http://www.rt.com Alondra

        They are welcomed too.

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Of cause then it was IRRESPONSIBLE, UNPATRIOTIC

    But NOW the Charlatan’s Economics changed: Raising the Debt Ceiling Does Not Increase Our Debt! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSMdlINVAk

    No Need to Raise Debt Limit

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra
    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. I know that Hitlery is thinking about running for president again in 2016, but not only will Benghazi hurt her chances, this might also.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/former-hillary-associate-claims-personal-hit-man-admits-killing-money/
      Here is one about the truckers going to D.C.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/trucker-protest-invades-dc-present-list-demands-texas-rep-louie-gohmert/
      I just hope more of them come than have already arrived. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion…Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
      John Adams

      • smilee

        The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!

        • WTS/JAY

          smilee the lying snake, lies again!!

        • Palin16

          smelly is too stupid to come up with anything new….sounds like a broken record.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Talking about yourself and your fellow Dem/Prog/Leftist ideologues again. Such vanity.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Argument to ridicule. Is that the best you got? Sheesh! I was expecting a lot more than just hearing your muffled voice in my underware. The only lies and filth I see are your postings on this site. You have no credibility. Now go home and stay there. Here is an article about why your ilk do not like the Tea Party.
          http://www.patriotupdate/articles/big-picture-shutdown-tea-party-irks-globalists/
          You are a part of the NWO. But alas! We already know this and you cannot hide. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
          “Whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to the dissolution of civil government.”
          SCOTUS case People vs. Ruggles
          1811

          • smilee

            “The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!”

          • WTS/JAY

            smilee the lying snake is lying, yet again…!

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    I smell roasting libturds and progturds on the fire. We shall give them no quarter. 공격하라! 모두 죽어라! Attack and kill them all. Literally, that is. Here is an article describing the latest lie by Obama bin Laden.
    http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12845/obama-lies-grannys-social-security-payments/
    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.”
    Richard Henry Lee
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence
    Devout Christian

    • smilee

      The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!!!!!!!!

      • WTS/JAY

        smilee the lying snake, lies again!

        • FreedomFighter

          Smilee, Alex, Bob, Nc and the rest, I call them Pirates that don’t do anything
          Laus DeoSemper FI

          • JimH

            Hi FF, They just keep passing that hope-ium pipe around.
            It does effect the mind.
            Take a toke, hold the smoke, blow your libtard mind.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Speaking of lying. How about CNN (Communist News Network) deriding the veterans and calling them all Tea Party crazies? This is not only unprofessional, but is a lie as well.
        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/10/13/CNN-derides-million-vet-march
        Just like the libturd/progturd msm to try to cut people off at the knees. Sounds like you smelly. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
        “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being essentially necessary to the good government, and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of instruction shall forever be encouraged by legislative provision.”
        Ohio State Constitution

        • smilee

          The Propaganda kid strikes again spreading his lies and filth!!!!!!!! Did not think that would bother you as that is what you are always doing!

  • WTS/JAY

    “Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.” -Vladimir Lenin

    “Would socialized medicine lead to socialization of other phases of life? Lenin thought so. He declared socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.”

    The Communist Workers Party published an article recently in defense of state-run medicine like the proposal that democrats are wanting to ram through in the next 10 days.

    From the Socialists Workers Party–

    When the administration of John F. Kennedy discussed a plan for government health care that would cover people of Social Security age, the American Medical Association (AMA) fought back, along with the insurance and pharmaceutical industries, with a well-funded campaign–complete with a commercial featuring actor Ronald Reagan, who was determined to talk to America about an “imminent threat”:

    Now, back in 1927, an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism, the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program…

    One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project…Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it.

    …Of course, the danger of creeping socialism is a much less compelling argument today among ordinary people than it was during the Cold War. If anything, socialism is becoming a preferred alternative to the mess that capitalism has made of working-class living standards…

    …According to the Physicians for a National Health Program’s (PNHP) Karen Palmer, the AMA assessed its members an extra $25 each to resist national health insurance, and in 1945, it spent $1.5 million on lobbying efforts, which at the time was the most expensive lobbying effort in American history. An AMA pamphlet warned, “Would socialized medicine lead to socialization of other phases of life? Lenin thought so. He declared socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.”

    We are only days away from the final vote on ObamaCare. If the House votes yes on the Senate bill that is now before it, THE GAME IS OVER. Since the Senate already passed it, once the House passes it on March 18, Obama’s signature on it (which will be immediate) MAKES IT LAW.

    We are about to become a Socialist country. For if this passes, it will be virtually unrepealable. Health entitlement programs, once enacted, have proven to be permanent.

    Think about it. Ten days from now: Permanent taxpayer funding of abortion. Permanent death panels (yes, those are in the bill), with no appeal of their decisions. Permanent forcing of pro-life doctors to refer for abortions, under penalty of loss of their license to practice. Within five years, no more freedom to buy private policies of your choice (only policies approved by the federal government). Small insurance companies, such as the one that took such incredibly good care of my husband during his illness, will very quickly be permanently out of business.

    The Democrats KNOW that nationalizing health care is the single most effective step in making the USA a socialist country. Lenin said it first:

    WE MUST DO WHATEVER IT TAKES IN THE NEXT TEN DAYS TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING!

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/socialized-medicine-is-the-keystone-to-the-arch-of-the-socialist-state/blog-279279/?page=2&link=ibaf&q=Socialized+Medicine+is+the+Keystone+to+the+Arch+of+the+Socialist+State.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama’s hero Lenin: “..socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state”

    This showdown on Obamacare is a war between those who fight to enslave us under Marxism and genuine Americans who want to live in freedom.

    Vladimir Lenin, an expert on Marxism, thinks so. A recent Communist Workers Party publication described Lenin’s position on the “value” of socialized healthcare as “… the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.”

    American socialists have been fighting to enslave us since at least 1927 when socialist skunk Norman Thomas predicted America wouldn’t vote for socialism, but would adopt every aspect of socialism if it were presented under the banner of liberalism.

    Obama’s health care scheme is presented as a plan to “help” the average American. Isn’t it being cloaked as humanitarianism, a way to “cover everybody and spread the wealth?”

    Rank and file Democrats are the enemy of American freedoms!!!

    A February Gallup poll revealed that more than one of three (36%) of those living among us are too stupid to recognize the dangers of socialism and actually favor it. Not surprisingly 53% of Democrats have a favorable view of socialism.

    This percentage of registered Democrats holds positive views of these elements of our national life: Capitalism just 53%; Big Business just 46%.

    A very instructive 67% of registered Democrats had a positive view of the Federal government.

    These are very scary numbers. They make it clear we have to keep fighting everybody and anybody in our way, regardless of party, to drive a stake through the heart of this disastrous bill.

    If they win we lose. This is a totally zero sum contest.

    If they win they will steal each day in the future lives our children and when the last piggy bank is smashed and the pennies are counted, they will tax us until we have nothing left to give.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2468733/posts

  • WTS/JAY

    7 High Ranking Military Officers Fired By Obama, 1st Time In US History; Are These the Ones That Wont Cooperate With The Impending Martial Law In The US? (Video)…

    http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2013/10/7-high-ranking-military-officers-fired-by-obama-1st-time-in-us-history-are-these-the-ones-that-wont-cooperate-with-the-impending-martial-law-in-the-us-video-2455174.html

    • S.C.Murf

      I believe someone else in history did something similar only he killed off his high ranking military leaders. Maybe they are related or have read each others books.

      up the hill
      airborne

  • Bob666

    No, Republicans, the Gallup Poll is not a limbo contest.

    Republicans seem to be playing “how low can you go.” Just 28 percent of Americans have a favorable impression of the GOP, according to the latest monthly Gallup tracking poll. The number ” is the lowest favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking this question in 1992,” the polling company stated.

    The number is 10 points lower than the party scored in the same poll in September.

    Democrats, meanwhile, got a favorable rating from only 43 percent of respondents, down four points from last month.

    The contrasting numbers seem to demonstrate the way blame for the government shutdown is being allocated to the respective parties by the public.

    The poll surveyed 1,028 adults between Oct. 3 and Oct. 6.

    The only similar trend in the poll’s history was the rating of Republicans after the vote to impeach President Bill Clinton in December 1998. Then, Republicans dropped 12 points, from 43 percent to 31 percent, although the party’s popularity recovered somewhat in subsequent months.

    http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2013/10/09/republican-approval-rating-falls-to-lowest-point-in-gallup-poll-history/

    • Palin16

      What you expect from sfgate? Just another commie rag from Pelosi’s home town..

      • Bob666

        From my observations Palin, you seem to take issue and demean any source that disagrees with your agenda.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          It seems that you have an agenda of disparaging the commenters that disagree with your Dem/Prog/Leftist agenda.

          • Bob666

            Wow Nads,

            It seems that you have an agenda of disparaging everyone. What color is the sky in your world???

          • http://www.rt.com Alondra

            The job satanists are commanded to do – DESTROY everything and everywhere!!!

      • Bob666

        Well Palin,

        is Fox news accurate enough for you?

        Five reasons Americans already love ObamaCare — plus one reason why they’re gonna love it even more, soon

        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/09/30/five-reasons-americans-already-love-obamacare-plus-one-reason-why-theyre-gonna/

        Congress: Republicans, Fox news poll
        http://www.pollingreport.com/cong_rep.htm

        • Jana

          Fox News is pretty leftist also. You really have to watch what they say and who says it. They aren’t the conservative friendly station that they try to make themselves out to be. Bob you have said that before too.

    • Jana

      Republicans seem to be playing “how low can you go.” Just 28 percent of
      Americans have a favorable impression of the GOP, according to the
      latest monthly Gallup tracking poll. The number ” is the lowest
      favorable rating measured for either party since Gallup began asking
      this question in 1992,” the polling company stated.————————–

      Actually I have a pretty low opinion of the standard Republican Party myself. I see McCain stand up there on the news and berate his own party and make a complete and utter fool of himself. McCain who had to be brainwashed when he was captured and is now showing his contempt for not only the Republicans, but for this country needs to sit down and shut up!!!
      I know these are harsh words coming from me but he is an idiot. I expect Obama to act like an idiot, he is a Democrat, but McCain is worse, much much worse. He is trying to divide his own party, and that is what he is doing. He needs to be censored.

  • Bob666

    Fox News Sunday’s Chris Wallace became visibly exasperated with Representative Jim Jordan (R-OH) on Sunday morning, as the congressman repeated his intention to delay the implementation of Obamacare without clarifying how he intended to pass such a delay through Congress, especially given that previous attempts to do so have severely damaged the GOP’s approval rating.

    “There’s a widespread feeling in Washington—maybe right, maybe wrong—that you’re going to have to accept in the House something that you hate, because, quite frankly, the perception is you misplayed your hands on Obamacare,” Wallace said, invoking the recent NBC/WSJ poll that not only showed the GOP’s approval rating at a record low but also the Affordable Care Act’s popularity rising. “Has your strategy of linking Obamacare to all these things backfired big time?”

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-wallace-grills-gop-rep-hasnt-your-strategy-backfired-big-time/

  • WTS/JAY

    Barack Hussein Obama: The Muslim Brotherhood President

    The State Department announced Wednesday that it was cutting hundreds of millions in military and other aid to Egypt, and make no mistake: this was not a government shutdown move. This was the President of the United States blackmailing a sovereign state to force it to restore the Muslim Brotherhood government he favors. With the Egyptian economy in crisis and Egypt strongly dependent on this aid, Obama has just effectively cast his vote for the Muslim Brotherhood’s return to power – and his vote outweighs that of millions of Egyptians.

    This comes as the Brotherhood is becoming increasingly violent in Egypt, belying its ‘moderate’ reputation. The New York Times reported Tuesday that ‘three brazen attacks across the country included a drive-by shooting near the Suez Canal that killed six soldiers, a car bomb that killed three police officers and wounded dozens near the Red Sea resorts area, and the first rocket-propelled grenade launched in the struggle, exploding near an elite enclave of the capital and damaging a satellite transmitter.’

    Obama has said nothing about this. Nor has he said anything about the recent attempt by Muslim Brotherhood supporters to assassinate Bishop Makarios of Upper Egypt’s Minya governorate, where Brotherhood men have burned churches and terrorized Christians, scapegoating them for the toppling of the Muslim Brotherhood regime. Indeed, Christians have been scapegoated and brutalized all over Egypt at the hands of supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    This persecution has had a decidedly Islamic cast: Asia News reported on September 13 that ‘the Muslim Brotherhood have turned an evangelical Protestant church in Monshaat Baddini in the province of Samalout (Minya, Upper Egypt) into a mosque. According to local sources, the Islamists have removed all sacred furnishings, paintings, icons and recited the special prayer to consecrate the building to Allah. On the wall of the church an inscription reads: ‘mosque of martyrs and there is no other God but Allah.’’

    read more: http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/barack-hussein-obama-the-muslim-brotherhood-president/

    • Karolyn

      What I heard was that aid was being stopped due to the lack of a democratic government. Egypt is under martial law.

      • WTS/JAY

        You heard wrong, Karolyn. The reason Obama wants to cut aid is because the Muslim-brotherhood is not in power.

        • ChiefBoring

          Absolutely correct. BHO may pretend it’s because the ouster of Morsi was a “coup”, but if it were the other way around he’d be happy as a clam. He’s going to end up making saudi Arabia unhappy with us. Not a good idea. BHO and Kerry have as much foreign policy sense as Beetle Bailey.

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama Eligibility Fraud Case NOT Going Away! Congressmen STILL Pursuing!

    On the radio show Freedom Friday with Carl Gallups Mike Zullo of the Arpaio Cold Case Posse team outlines the current realities on the ground regarding the case against the birth documents offered by the White House which supposedly proved that the President was born in Hawaii and which were later proven to be fraudulently manufactured.

    Listen to the full interview here…
    http://ppsimmons.blogspot.ca/2013/10/obama-eligibility-fraud-case-not-going.html

  • WTS/JAY

    A PHONY FROM A PHONY: “2,700-YEAR OLD ARTIFACT” OBAMA GAVE ROHANI WAS MADE IN 1999…

    Now this is good news. Hysterical. Of course, the enemedia will ignore another giant gaffe from the flubmeister-in-chief. But this one is positively poetic.

    I am sure I wasn’t the only one sick to my stomach when Obama presented the genocidal sharia state so important an archaeological find. Fact is, it wasn’t. It was a phony, just like Obama.

    Remember that ‘ancient’ artifact that US President Hussein Obama gave Iranian President Hassan Rohani during their meeting at the UN? Well, it’s not so ancient. In fact, it’s about as ‘ancient’ as my 6th child – vintage 1999.

    Not only is it a fake, it’s a bad fake. The saga of the griffin, from its production to its much-touted return to Iranian President Rouhani during his recent visit to New York, demonstrates how fakers of ancient art fool the gullible wealthy with the connivance of museums and scholars. More profoundly, it shows how ancient (or not so ancient) artifacts are made to carry cultural and diplomatic weight, in this case for a deeply problematic opening in relations between the United States and Iran.

    read more: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/10/a-phony-from-a-phony-2700-year-old-artifact-obama-gave-rohani-was-made-in-1999-.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

    • Karolyn

      Very strange!

      • WTS/JAY

        You want strange?

        Behind The Shutdown & Debt Ceiling Swindle Wall St. Orders Obama To Kill Glass-Steagall

        Wall Street had demanded that President Barack Obama stop the reinstatement of Glass Steagall at all costs and instead move ahead with more bailouts and bail-in looting of the American people to preserve their thoroughly bankrupt system. The Wall Street policy means an acceleration of crippling hyperinflation, devastating austerity and, ultimately, mass murder of the nation’s most vulnerable citizens.

        Several highly qualified Washington sources have confirmed that this was the ultimatum delivered by the Wall Street delegation that met privately with Obama on Wednesday afternoon Oct. 2 at the White House.

        The delegation was organized by the Financial Services Forum, a coalition of the nation’s 19 biggest banks and insurance companies, and included Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase; Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs; Brian Moynihan, CEO of Bank of America; Michael Corbat, CEO of Citibank; and Anshu Jain, CEO of Deutsche Bank.

        IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde delivered the same message in an interview with the Financial Times on Oct. 4, in which she demanded that the Federal Reserve maintain the $85 billion a month quantitative easing bailout of the top Wall Street and Europe banks indefinitely. And Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, speaking for Obama, threatened that any U.S. default will trigger a financial crisis far worse than the September 2008 meltdown.

        The reality, as bluntly stated by Lyndon LaRouche today, is that the ongoing government shutdown and threatened default on U.S. sovereign debt on Oct. 17 is (nothing more than an orchestrated swindle, aimed at conditioning the American people for the murderous policies that have already been accepted by Obama and by leading Congressional Republicans).

        LaRouche warned: “Unless Glass Steagall is passed into law immediately, Obama and Wall Street plan to unleash the worst mass murder austerity and looting of the American people ever.

        The total separation of commercial banking from all the gambling activities under Glass Steagall is the only remedy. Bankrupt Wall Street now, before they can unleash their genocidal schemes full-force.

        President Obama is nothing but a tool of these Wall Street interests, as evidenced by his slavish commitment to maintain the bailout/bail-in program and stop Glass Steagall.”

        read the rest here: http://larouchepac.com/node/28430

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. We all know that the libturds and progturds are good at using fear tactics to get what they want. Telling lies to the elderly about social security, the poor about welfare, others about medicare, etc., but we all know that this is just a farce as to try to conceal there real goals. Here is an article describing what I am saying.
          http://www.lastresistance.com/3354/politics-fear-democrat-edition/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.”
          Pennsylvania Supreme Court
          Updegraph vs. Commonwealth 1824

  • WTS/JAY

    OBAMA-BACKED JIHADIST REBELS PROUDLY SHOW OFF DECAPITATED HEAD OF SYRIAN SOLDIER…

    Is there no one who can change the course of Obama’s genocidal foreign policy? Pure anti-Americanism. He is backing Islamic supremacist annihilationists in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Gaza …… unspeakable.

    GRAPHIC – Soldier after being shot dead and beheaded by terrorists LiveLeak via BNI http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/10/obama-backed-jihadist-rebels-proudly-show-off-decapitated-head-of-syrian-soldier.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

  • WTS/JAY

    Boehner says Obama rejected House GOP offer; talks shift to Senate…

    Speaker John A. Boehner told House Republicans that the White House has rejected their compromise proposal. (Jim Lo Scalzo / EPA / October 12, 2013)

    WASHINGTON — Speaker John A. Boehner told HouseRepublicans on Saturday that the White House has rejected their compromise proposal to lift the nation’s debt ceiling and possibly reopen the government, while blaming PresidentObama for failing to negotiate in good faith.

    Rep. John Fleming (R-La.) said that Boehner (R-Ohio) told his rank-and-file in a closed-door meeting that, in retrospect, it was “obvious” that Obama “had no intention of negotiating with us in good faith.”

    Asked to characterize the mood of his party members as they left the meeting, Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.) said, “People are incredulously mystified.”

    Saturday’s statements from House Republicans marked a potential step backward one day after both parties expressed cautious optimism that negotiations were on a path toward compromise.

    A rift appeared to be growing between House Republicans and their counterparts in the Senate, with new talks on a possible alternative path underway between Majority LeaderHarry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell(R-Ky.), the first significant negotiations in months between the two.

    The House adjourned for the weekend after a brief and at times chaotic Saturday morning session. In the Senate, a Democratic proposal to raise the nation’s debt limit through next year was blocked by Republicans on a 53-45 procedural vote, failing to reach the 60 votes required to pass…

    read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-government-shutdown-budget-talks-break-down-20131012,0,5617806.story

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Thanks for the back up on this thread. The Samurai will do the same for you. Here are some articles about the shutdown. One of which Harry “Woody Allen” Reid gets his nads handed to him by the mayor of Washington, D.C.
      http://www.lastresistance.com/3356/dc-mayor-harry-reid-stop-shutting-government/
      http://www.lastresistance.com/3352/harry-reid-raise-debt-limit-1-trillion-well-negotiate/
      It seems that Harry “Woody Allen” Reid has been caught with his hands in the cookie jar. Who is he to make demands? Just another libturd/progturd that needs to be voted out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “It is impossible that any people of government should ever prosper, where men render not unto God, that which is God’s, as well as to Caesar, that which is Caesar’s.”
      William Penn
      Founder of Pennsylvania
      Devout Christian

      • Palin16

        There is a T shirt here in Nevada that says:
        “The only thing I hate about Nevada is Harry Reid”.

  • Chuckb

    Barry wants the Government shut down, He thinks the media has done their job with the polling and now the people are convinced the Republicans are the culprits, they don’t know why, except the polling shows they are at fault, they still don’t want Barrycare, however, it’s the republicans fault.
    This is the crossroads for our country, it’s taken the Bolsheviks five years to accomplish this goal., After this crisis is over then we will be faced with amnesty, Again the republicans will be hit with polls showing Americans really want amnesty, then we will have millions of new voters added to the Bolsheviks..

    America, hail your new Dictator, Barry Soetoro.

    The Zionist will have their power..

    • Bob666

      Care to cite sources for that Chuck?

      • Chuckb

        Bob666, Most of what I write is my own opinion, having watched the Liberals since the days of FDR,and grew up watching the Zionist movement in the Democrat party,

        I watched the McCarthy Hearings I saw personally what the Zionist Media did to him. I’ve watched .this country go down hill since the civil rights movement, (the blacks think that was their revelation) it was actually their downfall.
        You will probably say another Limbaugh addict.
        Yes, I listen to Rush faithfully, Sean Hannity, Levin (Jewish),
        sometimes I listen to Beck, probably more so lately.
        You may ridicule me for listening to all these people, however,
        I was way ahead of Rush in what he preaches.most of what he says in reference to politics was my opinion long before he entered this world.
        The one book that really opened my eyes was “The Iron Curtain Over America” John Beatty. Having read that book back in the Fifties started me to see what was actually happening in America,
        I got a preview of Some of these things in WW2 , however, I didn’t correlate it to coming attractions. at that time.

        So I guess you might say my source is from a long life and experiences related to watching the world go by.

        If you want to ridicule “The Iron Curtqin Over America” remember most of what the Author says is referenced to the happening.

        • WTS/JAY

          Beautifully stated, Chuckb, and thank you for sharing!

        • Bob666

          Well Chuck,
          I listened to the McCarthy hearings as a kid and have to tell you that McCarthy blew both feet off with a bazooka, the Zionist Media had nothing to do with his failure.

          I will be 72 next month, so you have to way older than I am to comment on WWII. You and I come from different worlds since I was a military brat and lived in four different countries growing up as a kid. My father took me to see the Berlin wall as a teenager and I got a pretty good Americanized education on Zionism and thought I knew something about it before working in Israel for a year (new Air base in the Negev Desert).

          I have also done work in three other middle eastern countries. our experiences in life come from different areas.

          That does not make one of us an expert over the other.

          • Chuckb

            Bob,
            I wholeheartedly disagree with you about Mccarthy, He opened the eyes of the country to the fact we were infested with Communist in all aspects of our Government.
            No one was prosecuted only accused before the country.

            he was subjected to humiliation by the communist Press and of course Hollywood joined in. Some people were accused falsely, however, most took the fifth Amendment The media coined the term McCarthyism

            and people doubted their innocence by doing so.

            After the Soviet Union collapsed, it was learned most of what Mccarthy was exposing about Communism was right and the media in this country claimed he was correct. Of course this was revealed in the back pages of the newspaper.
            John and Bobby Kennedy both assisted McCarthy in the hearings, however, the corrupt Bolshevik media has tried to cover that up as much as possible.
            This country has been bathed in Marxism since that time, Our Education system is probably more Marxist than those in the old Soviet Union.
            Gen, Patton warned his country after ww2 about the danger of Bolshevism, however, even then he was silenced by the Bolsheviks in this country.

            I’m 86 years old, It has been my hope to see our country restored to some kind if semblance I knew as a child, yet, when I see the people in the Democratic party and the people who support them now, I know the country I knew is long gone and most likely will never be the same again, and will eventually implode much the same as the Soviet Union did.

            Ths Bolsheviks have a long history of failure, yet they sway the majority with promise of something for free and they fall for it every time. When they destroy one society they move on to the next. .

  • WTS/JAY

    The Bankers Manifesto of 1892…

    I discovered this little gem by following a link from Freedom Reigns County Project to an example of a County Relocalization Project in Ohio. Their site quotes from something called The Bankers Manifesto of 1892, which seems to be playing out like clockwork again, especially with the “housing crisis” and the bogus 2-party political system:

    “People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.“The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

    “By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.”

    The quoted portions jumped out at me enough to see if I could find the full Bankers Manifesto of 1892, and I found it here. Thanks to Federal Observer Articles for posting the following in its entirety. I report it here in hopes of shining a little more light for those people still convinced that knee-jerk Democrat or Republican support will somehow resolve the money issues tearing apart our country and our lives.

    The bankers’ choice really comes down to one option: “Obamney.” It’s not unlike Matrix movie viewers convinced they’re so smart by choosing “the red pill” over “the blue pill,” not even considering that they could opt for no pill, a purple pill, or something completely outside the pillbox! Opening your eyes to reality doesn’t need to look tragic, and there are far more diverse options in this world than “Zion.”

    If you, or people you know have trouble believing “conspiracy theories” that the banksters run both political parties in order to keep people divided and distracted, then you might find it interesting that the Bankers Manifesto of 1892 explicitly advises: “Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.” Here’s the full document:

    The Bankers Manifesto of 1892

    Revealed by US Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh, SR from Minnesota before the US Congress sometime during his term of office between the years of 1907 and 1917 to warn the citizens.

    “We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance.

    The Farmers Alliance and Knights of Labor organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

    At the coming Omaha Convention to be held July 4th (1892), our men must attend and direct its movement, or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome. This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

    The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

    When through the process of the law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders.

    History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

    The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

    By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expand their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete action, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.”

    http://laurabruno.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/the-bankers-manifesto-of-1892/

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    It’s another great day that God has given us today. In fact, I was able to learn some more good news from Colorado. It seems there is going to be a nother recall election against another anti-2nd Amendment libturd. I guess there is something good to be said about the voice of the people.
    http://www.lastresistance.com/3346/another-colorado-recall-effort-targets-third-anti-gun-politician/
    Just another libturd/progturd log that will be thrown onto the fire. I love that smell. No quarter! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “I would probably have to say yes, that the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation.”
    John McCain
    Sept 2007

  • http://batman-news.com samurai

    More libturd/progturd logs roasting on the fire. Epsecially smelly. He is the one burning the brightest. Here is an article about Obama bin Laden Care and abortion.
    http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/12/obamacare-exchanges-hide-info-on-abortion-coverage-mandatory-abortion-surcharge/
    Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
    You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
    “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
    Ronald Reagan
    40th President of the U.S.