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Kill Switch Would Kill The Internet

June 23, 2010 by  

Kill Switch Would Kill The Internet

Relax!

It’s always a comforting feeling when the fascists tell you to relax. And that’s what Senator Joe Leiberman (I-Conn.) told everyone to do Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley.

Crowley asked about the Kill Switch bill Lieberman co-sponsors with Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine) that would allow the President to shut down the Internet in a time of emergency.

The President will never take over the Internet, Lieberman—with a warm smile—assured the audience. The government shouldn’t take over the internet. The president would only do that in catastrophic times. Not going to do it every day. It’s only for national security. Relax.

“Right now China—the government—can disconnect parts of its Internet in a case of war. We need to have the ability to do that, too,” Lieberman said.

Of course, in China the government runs over its people with tanks. It drags them off to prisons without trial for practicing Christianity or saying something government doesn’t like, where they disappear forever—probably with a bullet in the brain. I wonder if Lieberman thinks our government should have those abilities as well.

China also censors the Internet—every day—to stifle the free flow of information… because it can.

The worry for Lieberman and his fascist buddies—the elected elitists who march to the orders of the New World Order—is not what would happen to America if some outside entity launched a cyber attack on the United States.

The worry is that the Internet has opened up a treasure trove of information and an ability to share ideas with freedom-loving people all over the world. No longer is the main stream media the sole purveyor of information.

So that information can no longer be controlled. More and more people are learning the truth about government and the secret machinations that go one behind the scenes. They are learning about the corporatists that pull the strings. They are learning about the Bilderbergers and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission. They are waking up.

CFR member and Bilderberger Zbigniew Brzezinski recently lamented that people are becoming more aware of what’s going on in the world than ever before, and this awareness is harming their agenda.

So the U.S. government is gearing up for a crackdown on the information flow—or at least to have that ability when needed. Ignorant people, after all, are easier to control.

You may remember the protests in Iran a few months ago. The government there shut down the press. There was a complete information blackout throughout traditional media.

But we saw the atrocities that were taking place there—the shootings, the beatings, the imprisonments of the opposition—because of Facebook and Twitter. Despite the government’s best efforts to control the information coming out of Iran, the world knew the truth because of the Internet.

And protesters were able to organize large crowds in central locations and avoid the state police forces because they were able to communicate via the internet after other communications were shut down.

Not ready to think your government might be no better that Iran’s? Then surely you’ll consider that such a bill allowing control of the Internet would be used to monitor your Internet usage so it can be taxed… so web sites opposing the Big Government’s message can be better monitored and shut down.

The Federal Trade Commission recently proposed a plan—called a Drudge Tax—to tax websites and electronic devices in order to bail out failing newspapers—the propaganda rags of the ruling class. And since that didn’t fly with the masses the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) now says it wants to control prices and set rules for what traffic Internet Service Providers (ISPs) must carry.

Censor the Internet? That would never happen here, would it Senator Lieberman?

No, he smiles and chuckles at the foolishness of the little people. Relax. National security and all.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Al Sieber

    why to we continue to take this crap?

    • Al Sieber

      we out number them. we’re being invaded by foreigners who laugh at us and break our laws, our economy is in a controlled collapse, we have a hugh oil leak in the gulf, the constitution is being ignored….. I think a firing squad is in order.

      • kate8

        Yep. They’ve got us right where they want us: enraged and near critical mass.

        This has been the plan all along.

      • Elle

        What a mess!! I was wondering about a firing squad? Inprisonment, some local nut would come along and perole them, (the whole bunch of snakes.)

      • JeffH

        5.56 X 45 to be exact…any volunteers? Aye, me…

        • Al Sieber

          Goggle: Nicolae Ceausecscu execution. he was the dictator of Romania, overthrown in 1988, after a fair trial (about 2 hours) him and his wife are taken behind the Palace in front of 10 AK-47′s. disturbing video, justice is served.

          • JC

            For crimes against the people…
            They hung Mussolini from a meat hook.
            I think we just need to deport our problem though and prosecute his Czars.

          • Ioana

            I am from Romania. More I’m from Targoviste, the city where Ceausescu was killed. I know who’s the man who drove Ceausescu and his wife from the capital to Targoviste with a gun pointed against his head. I also know how it was to live under the communist regime with rationalized food, electricity and gas. I assume you never had to learn by candlelight, eh? I assume your parents have never been taken by the police for ‘questioning’? I assume your telephone calls were not recorded and your house has never been torn upside down by the police! :) it’s interesting how stories get to circle the globe and they become absolute truth and how very few ppl take time to think about how much truth there’s actually in them! I didn’t agree to Ceausescu been killed, but I think at that time ppl on the street were too furious and there was a lot of shooting going on. My neighbor got shot and he was only 13. he’s still in a wheelchair, he’s life is ruined and there are many like him…

          • JC

            loana, I’m sorry you had to go through that.
            What you have described is exactly what we are doing our best to educate people about. There is a well financed movement afoot that is trying to subjugate and destroy American freedom and Liberty. If the will of the “American People” should fail the world will fall. But not without a fight.

          • sylvia

            I was in the era of WWII, just a little girlbut remember the ration stamps, we had a stamp for shoes,coffee, sugar, milk, and any other thing that was needed to survive. If you had a car you only got 1-set ot tires a year or for as long as they would last. I remember the Air Raid Sirens,with NO lights at night very few had lights. No “butter” but thats when margerine came out with a Yellow capsul that you could add, if you wanted it to be more like butter. I am not in favor to just KILLING anyone. I am for going by the laws that we have. BUT don’t get me wrong, I am ready to defend MY HOME ,MY FAMILY, and MY PROPERTY. Byt the way we DO NOTY CALL 911 God Bless AMERICA

      • william wilson

        it is past time for Americans to water the tree of Liberty if we wait until tomorrow the tree will be dead.It is time for American patriots to rally together and do what is needed,we all know what this means,alot of us will die but alot more will live and our true way of life will be able to flourish and be around for our children may God Bless America! Semper Vigalantes.

        • old white guy

          damn right.

  • angel-wanna-be

    NO our GOvernment would never impose on our privacy in any way, shape or form, would they?__If ya believe that, I have some breath taking beach front property in the desert to sell. I agree Bob, the News papers are failing, because of the ease and wealth of info, on the internet. The information about Washington WAS more easily controlled via Newsapapers, with the internet ANYONE can post info and the GOvernment doesn’t like, NOT being in control!__Find and Print out all the info you want to save, folks, the days are coming, when thruths, as well as falehoods, will be hidden___OH, ONLY, For the Good and the safety of the People___of course!

    • Vicki

      Tyrants always hate the “press” unless they are in total control of it. That is one of the main reasons for the First Amendment. By reading the context it is clear the founders ment any mass communication not just paper with words printed on it.

      As such the internet is the founders dream come true. The ability to communicate with large numbers of your peers. There was once a saying that freedom of the press is for those who own presses. Now with the internet and blogs we ALL can own a press for free or so close to free as to be irrelevant.

      Now as to the gov shutting down the internet there is a small but really nasty problem the government has. Usenet. They could try and shut that down by cutting off DSL and phone and cellphone service but with all the wifi hotspots now in existence a new net could be formed VERY quickly.

      Add to that the large numbers of ham radio operators and you still have a vast communication network outside of government control.

      • JC

        Hitler, Stalin and Mao…all had complete control of puppet news agencies, all had gun control, all had “state” education, all had control of industry, all had control of the money supply…
        Anything starting to look familiar?

        • kate8

          JC, too familiar. We are already pretty much there. We just don’t know it yet.

          There is so much legislation that has been signed in to law, sneaked into other bills so we wouldn’t see it.

          It’s nearly all in place. All we are waiting for is a major event.

      • J

        Thanks Vicki you are right I’m a HAM
        It is so true about wifi hot spots. Another thing that everyone should look into is getting your Ham Radio License it’s easy and only cost $15. We can wifi hot spots that are huge. The reason is that we can run a lot more power then your normal home user wifi plus it’s a lot of fun also. For those of you that see your neighbor with all the antennas on his house please get to know them they may be able to save your life one day. God’s people need to stick together.

  • D Lynch

    If there is a kill switch allowed…the govt would use it like China does whenever it wants.We would not have the interacting we now do with everyone on the internet.Remember the commercial free TV. You pay now for it and there is more commercials than ever before. I say No to Kill Switch.

    • William

      once apon a time I thought joe leiberman was an honarable and decent person. a rarity in the democratic ranks. but alas. he is just another liberal democrat. joe you can go to hell too,

      • Harold Olsen

        Lieberman never had me fooled for a minute. I noticed what a hypocrite he was during the Lewinski scandal. He said he would never allow his daughter to work in the Clinton White House. Then when he became Al the Bore’s running mate he goes on the “Today Show” and says that Clinton never did anything wrong. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. He’s just another politician who is incapable of telling the truth. That seems to be all we have in Washington, DC these day. You can’t trust any of them. IT’S TIME TO THROW THE BUMS OUT!!

      • kate8

        William, I agree.

        I think in DC today, you either get with the program or you go down. Even the ones who start out with honorable intentions get the fear of Lucifer put in them in short order.

        We have no representation in DC. They don’t view the two or three who speak up for us as much of a threat to the agenda.

        • Vicki

          Since they don’t even bother to read the bills they vote for how can anyone think we are being represented? There is something we can do about it before November. If all of us go to downsizedc.org and join and send in just 1 email a day on just 1 of the campaigns there our elected representatives would feel the heat.

          Then of course no matter what they learn we need to vote most of them out in Nov. That way we might get a little representation before the next batch is corrupted

      • JSmith

        I have to agree about Leiberman. Since he as gone Independent he has gone nuts. I used to believe he was a useful Democrat. He is as dangerous as all the rest if not worse now. If memory serves me correct he has voted with the Democrats on every major issue.

      • old white guy

        joe is just another progressive jew hating jew.

        • JC

          OWG, That’s called a Zionist and I don’t believe they’re really Jewish. They (Zionists) are the enemy.

  • Margot

    What do you think, America? Freedom of speech, is both written and spoken. I don’t believe anything this president says or this administration. Every single move has been to limit our freedoms. Instead of actually managing the cleaning of the gulf the president’s first agenda is to get the Cap and trade bill passed…yes he is that callous. Instead of securing our borders he wants immigration reforms passed. Nancy Pelosi said after the health care bill is passed you then can read it……is she insane?

    Impeach this president along with his administration the crew of them. We need to take back America! Get this anti- American sociopath out of here, personally I would like him arrested. He has an agenda that probably has been long standing, and not in the benefit of the American people. He is no Dr. Martin Luther King, he is a fake and a fraud. He has been caught in so many lies, and he lies like he breathes. God Bless America

    • a sceptic

      So one more to blame on Obama, right?

      Well, excuse me for being sceptical – actually, I can’t help it! – but what I read in the article is “Senator Joe Leiberman (I-Conn.)…co-sponsors with Senator Susan Collins (R-Maine)”.

      Or perhaps we’re reading different web pages??!

      • DaveH

        The Maine Senators, though Republican, are very Liberal. And I suspect Obama will back the Bill. But it really doesn’t matter if they are Democrat or Republican, we need to make every effort to stop these power-hungry politicians from taking what freedom we have left.
        Speaking of power-hungry politicians, apparently McCain is in the fight of his life to keep his seat. There have been non-stop McCain commercials on TV (here in Arizona) for the last several weeks, and I noticed two large Billboards advertising for McCain when I was down in Phoenix last weekend. If they are just representing the people, why do these career politicians fight so hard to keep their seats?

        • Ken

          You “suspect” Obama will back the bill? Are you kidding? This is a dream for him!

      • J.M.R.

        collins is democrart claiming to be repub

      • Dan Burke

        It isn’t really whether the senators are liberal or not. Take for example a fuel additive used during the winter in Utah to reduce emissions. I talked to someone who claimed that a little actually did wonders but the amount legislated was actually too much and in reality did more harm than good. Was he speaking the truth? Perhaps, but what it illustrated is how government regulation easily gets out of control (and why I am against it). Take for example, I read an IT sight regularly. A group of these people are all for open source and related projects. It amazes me then that these same people who believe all computer programming should be openly shared and worked on(freedom of information of a sort) are often the same people who support what is call net neutrality. Another piece of the puzzle where the government would gain control over the transmission of data over the internet. Their argument is that this would stop internet providers such as Comcast from limiting the space for services such as Netflix and TV.com that compete with Comcasts cable offerings. So with the idea of preventing private companies from controling the flow through there networks, they are all for giving the control to the government instead (and yes I am a Comcast customer and a Netflix customer but that doesn’t mean I want the government to have the power over my internet). I guess they live in a fantasy world where government is benevolent and businesses are malicious. Sure, businesses care about the bottom line, the profits, but that is also exactly why they must care about the people because if they don’t then they lose the business to someone else who will. However, once you give that power to government, you might as well give up your freedoms too–because even if the current officials don’t take your freedoms away, you have provided the tool for future use. And once you gave government this tool, what is stop government from taking the next one.

        Here is some food for thought on the internet. Did you know that some of the tools to monitor and enforce net neutrality would almost by necessity be capable of identifying your email as it is transmitted too and from your computer? Ironic then when you consider that the government wants warrantless searches of your email. Give them warrantless searches of your email, and the technological access to internet traffic necessary to enforce net neutrality, the wouldn’t even need to access your computer (or your ISP) to read your email. And since it was warrantless to acquire the information, then would it be approved as evidence in a court case against you? Even if it wasn’t admitted in a court without a warrant, imagine a world where the government could monitor your every email to your every friend. They would be well on the way to having the power over the people that China enjoys.

        • Retribution

          Even before Marxist-Leninism took over China, the rulers were wicked. If neighbors had a land dispute, it was wise to settle between themselves, because as soon as one or the other went to the magistrate, the problem would be solved swiftly and surely — in the magistrate’s favor. He’d just take the dispute land for himself.

          The Chinese understand the power of a monopoly. At one time, before refrigeration, salt was the commodity of life. It was used to preserve foods through winter seasons. Salt traders could demand their price, but the government took over the salt industry, and the people suffered all the more. Today, the commodity of life is energy, by whatever means it is produced and made available. It seems that America, as Obama has said, can learn a lot from the Chicoms — but it is none of it any good for the people.

        • DaveH

          Great comment, Dan.

        • JC

          That’s exactly right Dan

          And its already started overseas…

          http://www.infowars.com/australian-government-to-force-internet-users-to-ins
          tall-state-approved-software

          The Australian government appears to be set to force internet user to
          install government anti-virus and firewall software. Given that governments
          provide notoriously bad and over priced service I doubt this software will
          correspond to the free market checks and balances where people can complain
          , return for refund, and refuse to use the garbage that is produced by a
          monopoly. But then this isn’t about piracy or cyber crime this is about
          watching where your going, who your “talking” to, and what your posting.
          This is about control nothing more and nothing less. This is about the
          eventual severing of our contacts with each other and the total isolation of
          each and everyone of us.

      • old white guy

        and obama is not in cgarge of the pack?

    • William

      I totaly agree and the sooner we rid ourselves of the great community organiser the better. so many damned IDIOTS say they voted for him because they didn’t think Sarah Palin had the experience neede to be president. just goes to show you what kinda STUPID IDIOTS were voting last election,

  • Melissa

    Talk is cheap how do we stop this communist administration?

    • Richard Pawley

      Agreed! We can complain all day long and it does no good. Believers can pray and I mention that in both my books on a couple of pages (and I have seen some amazing prayers answered) but I didn’t want to dwell on it because many are not believers and some have had bad experiences in their youth. HOWEVER, the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIME is likely to be in four months. We cannot turn the clock back and unspend the trillions that the Congress has spent in the past four years, but we can replace that Congress in November with savvy people who know that one who borrows is slave to the one who lends. It’s time for Americans to wake up. Spread the news. This is it. While freedom still exists and we can still use the Internet all who oppose that freedom need to be opposed. Those who think we have to much freedom, be it freedom of speech, or freedom to fail, or freedom to protect ourselves in our home are not American and must be opposed. Are Americans all “small people” to be led like lemmings by George Soros and those who will profit by our new “energy tax,” “Cap and Trade” or whatever call it which has failed miserably wherever it has been tried. We have one chance left and that is if we have the biggest turnout ever to replace the Nancy Pelosi’s and Harry Reid’s this November, who are not unlike those we fought to free ourselves from over 234 years ago. Spread the news! Get involved! Send five dollars to someone who values you support. It has been reported that Senator Obama had upwards of a billion dollars to use in his run for president. Money talks and even a few dollars will help some candidates. Don’t just vote for a Republican unless they are someone who holds your values of being out of debt. The Marxists in Washington are serious. They want to replace our Constitution (or re-interpret it to mean whatever they want. FDR tried to pack the Supreme Court and Obama is trying the same. They fear for their lives so they want to take guns away from citizens. They fear for the truth so they want to control the Internet. These people have no confidence in “We the People” and believe that they are superior to “the little people”. We have but one chance. I wrote about the terrible inflation we will one day face in my autobiography four years ago and in my book on the last days of this great country I tell my not politically reasons why we are having to endure this coming time of trial and austerity (and call it like it is, suffering). Not this year, maybe not even next, but you can no more stop the sun nor the Great Earthquake that will one day do great damage to Los Angeles, making it I believe, our greatest natural disaster, than you can stop the great inflation that will follow the deflation. China is desperately doing their best to get rid of dollars. Don’t go by what politicians say they believe but look at their records (they tried to prevent that a few years ago too). Convince your friends to vote this November. Even the Bible, believe it or not, talks of an eventual one world government controlled by the most evil person who ever lived, who controls all the money (or buying and selling). It isn’t just the fanatics in Iran who want world war and to kill a 100 million and the Bible even gives hints at the outcome where it says “sores” which many believe will be skin cancer will appear all over the earth (as our protective ozone shield is destroyed by nuclear weapons?). Of course it could be excessive radiation from the sun in the next solar cycle in two or three years. Terrible things are coming and our congress seems hell bent on speeding them along. They must be replaced this November. How’s this for a quote from someone I used to respect: “One America burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say in order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it.” — Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier, or if you prefer an American: “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” — Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor. Vote in November or you may be one of the ones they want to eliminate. Most don’t realize that that is what the Obama-Pelosi-Reid healthcare is really all about but they will find out in a few years when they need help unless we can overturn it and come up with true health care reform. It’s NOVEMBER OR NEVER!

    • mark

      That is easy.We simply refuse to pay taxes,credit cards,mortages etc.We only agree to pay for esentials.That will bring the banks down which will bring the government down.They are scared shitless that the people will figure this out.I know many people that have done just that. Our lords will be exposed for the paper tigers that they are.Just like the wizard in the Wizard of Oz.The emperor has no clothes!Do you have the balls? Remember,they are powerful,but we are many and they are few.

  • lore

    if they do that there be a revolt…this government is corrupt…get them out of there fast…liars and cheats they are…a big NOOOOOOO to kill switch….outrageous !!!…especially in case of an emergency we need the internet to communicate…this is like China…

  • TeresaE

    Anyone else notice it is a Republican sponsor for a law granting more powers to a Democratic President?

    Nope.

    Just like nobody seemed to notice the Homegrown Terrorism Act written by Democrats and signed into law by a Republican.

    BOTH sides are screwing us, yet the “enlightened” continue to harp down their respective party lines.

    Wake up people, it is US – the people, vs. THEM – all on the government tit.

    • gary

      Are you mad enough to spill some blood?

      • DaveH

        Gary,
        Let’s stick to non-violence unless they take every other recourse away.

        • angel-wanna-be

          DaveH, Your right!__We’ve got to fight at the ballot box__that is, if our votes will still be valid??

      • JLC

        Gary — I spilled some blood back in 1945. I my have to do it again.
        BREAKING NEWS! Obama Relieves General McChrystal of command — Yahoo News

    • JC

      Terese, haven’t you noticed it doesn’t matter who’s in power or what color tie they’re wearing? Get off the hamster wheel, the whole system is corrupt.

  • jopa

    I do’nt think Lieberman and Collins even have any idea of the magnitude of the internet.They think were in the era of Ham radio in a national crisis which is still one of the many tools we have.The internet would be more valuable in protecting Americans than a nation without one.As connected as Obama is he is smart enough to know how important the internet would be in a national emergency and he would never be for a shut-off switch.

    • TIME

      Jopa,
      They not only know what they are preching they are doing its with glee.
      Both are 100% progressives, please people look at the persons who are running for office with great care if your in a state that will have mid term elections and your not 100% sure what the congress and or senate person is really like.
      Place their names here and we can help you.

      If we don’t weed out all the Progressives, the KILL SWITCH is 100% for sure going to happen just as your freedoms that you have left will be gone in the blink of an eye.

      You will be SLAVES to the state, there is little differance in being a democrat or being a rebublican. The bone heads we have on this sight like Norm and denniso are here due to their being part of the problem, not part of the soluition.

      Again put your congress and or senate persons names up here lets work together and toss the crap on the mound to go to the dump.

    • DaveH

      “The internet would be more valuable in protecting Americans than a nation without one”. Excellent point, Jopa.
      But I think you are wrong about Obama.

      • JC

        The internet wouldn’t be shut down to protect Americans…it would be shut down to protect the tyrants. Once isolated and unable to communicate we’d be sitting ducks for anything they have in mind.
        Which is why everyone should get things organized with friends and neighbors if the net goes down. Only We The People can or will protect
        …”We The People”

        • kate8

          JC, isn’t it strange that, today, our primary means of socializing and communicating is via internet? How often do we discuss political issues when we hang out with friends?

          So now, all they have to do is black out the internet, and we’d be virtually alone and adrift. Of course, even if we knew people, assembly would be strictly controlled and curtailed.

          I think they’ve got us by the shorthairs. We’d better be planning a strategy, because we’ve fallen right into their trap!

          This is serious, folks. Without internet, what do we do?

          • JC

            I do talk to people Kate. Serious people. We have community, a place to bug out and a good amount of military know how.

    • JSmith

      If “o” could use a kill switch on the Internet in any way to control the masses he would. And unfortunately he would not use it for our benefit but for his and the policies of his handlers in their new world order scheme. He has the support of the lamestream media, they are threatening to reintroduce the fairness doctrine, that is shut down talk radio. Whether you believe talk radio or not the Government does not have the right to shut down free speech. When they do we become like Nazi Germany did, and the rest of the European countries that were overrun, and closer to our time and home, Venezuela, Cuba and the rest of the socialist dictatorial regimes throughout history. We as citizens need to push back against this, the internet switch and shutting down talk radio by writing to our members of Congress, keeping up the dialogue on the Internet and getting out to vote. Only we can stop it and to do so we have to get up and just DO IT. Lets GIT ER DONE.

    • Artie

      Jopa, the only reason that they want to kill the internet is because they are exposed there. They know exactly how dangerous to themselves that that internet is. To say that they don’t realize how important the internet is and to think that they believe that it is as useful as a HAM radio is a foolish thing to say. They know that we have uncovered alot of their dirty laundry and they don’t like it. They want total control over the masses!

      • Cindi

        Artie, you are so right.

  • Colo43

    it seems awfully strange that he has not been impeached yet.
    What are they waiting for.

    • Al Sieber

      “they” are all in bed with him. what we have today is the vote on the “disclose Act” one more blow against the 1st amend. we need to stop this.

      • TIME

        Al your 100% right and I understand thats on the agenda for this afternoon 6 23 2010, CALL YOUR CONGRESS person and tell them to vote NO. I will post the bill # later.

        FAX them a hard copy, email them a hard copy so its of record get your family and friends to do this too. WE stopped this vote last week – they are not going to stop until your a SLAVE thus YOU can’t stop. Keep going keep pushing these SOBS back!

        • TIME

          Its # HR 5175 tell them to Vote NO – to this and that your feel the Government has gone too far, and that its time to stop taking away your rights granted under the bill of rights.

          And that you will work to the ends of the earth to have them removed if they vote yes.

          • gary

            The bill of rights tells us we have the right to get rid of a government like we now have. THis is a right we need to participate in. SOON!

          • DaveH

            Here is the related bill (S.3295) in the Senate:
            http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:SN03295:@@@X|/home/LegislativeData.php?n=BSS;c=111|

          • DaveH

            Pick on the co-sponsors link for S.3295 and notice that none of them are Republicans. They are Democrats and Independants.

          • Vicki

            PROTECTED by the Bill of Rights. The BOR grants NOTHING. To keep saying that gets people to believe that our rights come from government (when it feels like it). Rights from government are privledges not rights.

            Please, Please make it clear that your CREATOR gave you your rights not some government. Take back our language and tell everyone that our rights belong to US.

            (That little word unalienable in the DoI)

          • JeffH

            The word disclose in the DISCLOSE Act is a silly acronym that stands for “Democracy Is Strengthened by Casting Light On Spending in Elections.”

            Defeat H.R. 5175 and S. 3295
            Send a message to your representative through this link:

            https://secure.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/120

          • DaveH

            We need to cast more light on the Government’s Spending.

        • Harold Olsen

          I would contact my congressman but it wouldn’t do any good. My congressman is Baghdad Jim McDermott, Saddam Hussein’s bosom buddy. The only constituents he wants to hear from are those who agree with him and totally support Obama’s agenda. The rest of us, as far as he is concerned, can go to hell.

          • DaveH

            Your task is to send him there on the next election.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Same here Harold, all but one of our represtatives are Democrats_They won’t listen to us either.

        • Artie

          TIME, this is assuming that the vote isn’t rigged. It is naive to believe that the vote counts for anything. And writing your Congressman? Been there, done that! I got form letter responses. They don’t care what we think. Do you think that they are going to take our calls or read our letter’s and cower in the corner? I don’t think so. They hold us in such low regard that they don’t even care what we say. They don’t worry about us because the system is rigged and our voices will never be heard; our votes will never be counted because the vote is rigged!!

          • kate8

            We’ll have elections like Saddahm had in Iraq, or Chavez in Venezuela, where the tyrants get close to 100% of the votes.

          • TIME

            Artie, Its to be of record, thats why you do it. Don’t kid your self we are still a country of LAW.
            Thus we need to have written record of all actions then when and if the time ever comes the one with the most paper wins.
            Never believe that the “pen is not a mighty weapon” it is.

            The basic sprit of the real American may be tested by fire, but that sprit of Freedom lives in our hearts and minds, thus we are the greatest challenge to the progressive marxist.
            If they can break our sprit they can rule the world with the One World Government, or new World Order, or what ever name they come up with.

            Also keep in mind we are the Missfits of the world, The UNDER DOGS that made good.

    • Chris

      He doesn’t have to worry about impeachment as long as the Dems have a super-majority. They can do whatever they want. Remember Kruschev said they would take us over from within our own political system. We must get them out of office come November provided we can still vote by then.

      • gary

        Something needs to be done before then, sorry to say. November will not be enough, and we will lose our country forever. How far are you really willing to go to save it?

        • triple x

          All the way to Hell and back

          • Al Sieber

            I’m with you, look’s like we’re headed there.

    • Harold Olsen

      What’s so strange? The Nazi Democrats are firmly in bed with our fuhrer and will do anything he tells them to. The Republicans are nothing but a bunch of wimps and cowards and are too afraid to oppose his agenda. Oh, they talk a good talk and offer token resistance, but when push comes to shove, they wet their pants and do whatever they are told.

      If the Republicans manage to take control of either house in November I doubt that anything will change. If they try to reverse any of Obama’s agenda or try to impeach him they will be called racists and they are more afraid of getting that label than doing anything that will actually protect our country. The fact that they already have that label, which means they have nothing to lose on the score, doesn’t seem to matter. They are just too stupid to realize they have nothing to lose.

      I’m through with both parties. I’d never vote for a Democrat anyway, but it’s become highly unlikely that I’d vote for a Republican either, unless they could prove 100% that they were a true conservative–and not just with words but by their record. Right now, that animal doesn’t exist, especially those we have in office right now.

      It’s time for another American Revolution!! It’s time to take back our country!!

      • triple x

        I am with you on that

      • Artie

        Dem’s, repub’s? These are only titles. They are all the same, when it comes down to it. It is a left/right paradigm. One bird, two wings of the same bird. They work together and they don’t pay us any heed. This is what people need to understand. The government is working together to enslave us. Everything is upside down, the government is supposed to be in fear of the People, not the People being afraid of the government. But that is how it is now, they have taken over and we live in fear of THEM!! It’s time to flip the board over again. Voting them out, even if that was to even work, would be useless because who would replace them? Just another group of bought out politicians. We need a government that doesn’t allow special interest group’s or lobbyist influence. We need politicians who cannot be bought off because we need laws that illegalize corporate campaign finance. We need to have politicians that have been put into office to concentrate on what is good for the country, not politician’s that have to pay back their campaign financier’s with promised deeds. The system is broken!! Our government works for their partner corporate interest’s not us little people. It’s called Fascism, the merger of corporate entities and government. And since Obama has dictatorial powers, we have gone from a Free Republic to a Fascist Dictatorship and no one even noticed. We have a President who has a blank check to arrest and detain ANY PERSON for ANY REASON, contrive or not. He does not even have to charge you with anything. If you get too vocal and become a threat to their plans, they can and will arrest you with no due process. They don’t have to tell you why and they will not allow you due process. You will not have access to a lawyer and you can be held indefinitely. Those are the sorry facts of what this country has become. And the things that we are talking about, right here, right now, are exactly why the government wants to shut down the internet.

    • LocalYokel

      Court delay defense will surely make restitution for past progressive appointments. It may not be advisable to let the legislature take charge of a BHO impeachment process until more backup measures are weighed. Notice all the loopholes listed on Wikipedia. Let’s not forget how well they “handled” the WJC affair and where he is today. The former could merely be demoted to president of Kenya as payback for US grant money illegally invested in their recent election or CEO for $2 billion invested in Petrobra’s drilling off shore from Brazil. His future is well prepared except for the absence of Kevlar and availability of pork fat dreaded by all Muslims. Few of the rest have even a vague memory of their cemetery plot.

  • ucm4u

    Congress impeaches Presidents…you think they would impeach one of their own? Dah!

    • gary

      You are correct little boy! Where do you stand?

    • http://YAHOO PATSY WEICK

      Oh but it has been done Remember “WATERGATE”? PRESIDENT RICHARED NIXON? I REMEMBER VERY WELL. I’m a Republican & yes I did Vote for him. He doesn’t even come close to what Obammmm is doing to us now. His Impeachment was because he said he didn’t know about Watergate when he knew all the time & it was done with his approval all the time. I have said it from the day Obammmm first came into the picture from out of know where. Just his name & speach the things he says chills ran up & down my spin. He is not an American never was how did he get to be head of our Great Country? Who Let him in? What better way to take over our country. Yes I Agree lets take it back Antone who don’t beleive in what this Great Country was founded on needs to be tared & feathered & runout on a rail and the rest of them with him. This man & family dose not belive in any god but his own. He dosen’t belive in anything that our Country was based on. How did he get their? It’s time to take our Country back. Is this to be another “ALLAMO” Fighting for our country in order to keep it FREE? Where do I join???
      GOD BLESS AMERICA.

  • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

    I like your work Bob. Good job!

  • s c

    So, Lieberman, the Smiling Schmuck, is an Independent? Did anyone ever tell him what independent means? Is Lieberman another Gore?
    What is with the people in Connecticut? How can they not KNOW they have a weasel in their midst? Is Connecticut just another word for Massachusetts?
    Big Joe can take his plastc smile, and go hump himself until his brain starts to FUNCTION. Zbig and all the rest of the FALSE ‘ELITES’ can take up residence in any foreign country that will have their sorry arses.
    OUT with all TRAITORS! OUT with ALL ‘ELITE’ groups!
    And OUT with anyone who has a use for such pathetic SLIME!

    • gary

      This is exactly why November will do us no good at all. You cannot believe any of them. They all lie like rugs. They will turn on you like a rabid dog.

  • Joan Neel

    Lieberman is also a PROGRESSIVE who wants Big Government to control and brain wash our citizens to their way of thinking. They are starting in K – 12 in our schools, with liberal teachers who hate Christianity and a conservative way of thinking. They are telling our children to ignore their parents, because they are too old to know the real truth … they are rewriting the history of the U.S. to promote their Marxist agenda. We saw on UTUBE, Obama’s Czar saying yes, they want to get rid of the conservative news channels and instead have stations who agree with Obama, Pelosi and Reed. We cannot believe their lies, and must vote them out in November before we have a government like China, Russia, Iran, etc., where we cannot speak our minds, or disagree with our leaders without being thrown in prison.

    • a sceptic

      If you knew anything about Lieberman you would hardly call him a progressive. He’s about as right wing as they come… even indicated he favoured McCain in the middle of the election despite being a sitting Democrat at the time.

      It’s appropriate that he would be the one pushing this fascist move to kill our ability to communicate and reason with each other through this great democratic media called the Internet.

      …But such are the powers that be: A pox on both their houses!

      • DaveH

        That’s your proof that Leiberman is a right-winger? He favored McCain? That’s too funny. McCain is one of the most Liberal Republicans in Congress. Oh, I know that he is posturing as a Conservative now to get re-elected, but look up his voting record to see the truth.

        • angel-wanna-be

          DaveH, Your right, I hated voting for McCain, but he was the lesser of two evils for us.

          • DaveH

            I’m keeping my fingers crossed that he is outa-there at the primaries.

          • DaveH

            And Angel, remember that the lesser of two evils is still just evil. We will never get the kind of leaders we want by throwing away our votes on leaders we don’t want just because they are less evil. Imagine if McCain had won. He would have grown the government more slowly, and probably more undetectably. Thanks to Obama’s impatience and brazenness, the people have been shocked into action. Let’s just hope it’s not too late.

      • Harold Olsen

        Lieberman supported McCain is your argument for him being right wing? That’s a laugh! McCain is a liberal and has a liberal voting record. He sides with the Democrats more than he does the Republicans. The only time he tries to act like a conservative is when he is up for re-election. The way he ran his presidential campaign, I’m convinced he is also a closet Democrat. He may as well have campaigned for Obama in 2008.

      • Vicki

        The only difference between McCain and a Democrat is that McCain has an R where the D should be.

      • kate8

        Don’t forget that Lieberman was a Democrat before he became Independent. And, apparently, he still is in truth.

        • 45caliber

          He ran under the Democrat ticket and was beaten. So he ran as an Independent in the general election to stay in office.

      • Al Sieber

        Liberman is a yes man and a boot licker for Israel.

  • http://www.helpawhiteguy.com Reggie Brian

    We already have a kill switch, and it is in the first five words of the Bill of Rights. Our founding fathers identified the potential source of freedoms being taken away from The People.

    This list does not GIVE the people rights. It merely limits government so that people can enjoy freedom.

    Anyone who says differently is either a liar, or has an ulterior motive.

    • Vicki

      Or has been raised in public schools to believe that the constitution grants rights to the people.

  • Stevie G

    Geeze…I wonder what will happen as bankrupt real estate investor to what little income I have obtained as a newby internet marketer when ole Barry gets a burr up his ass and flips off my “store” When will these idiots learn that as long as they keep screwing the little business man there will never again be any kind of a sustainable economy here. God help us!

    • angel-wanna-be

      StevieG, They all ready know__That’s why they tax and regulate us to death, to us up against the wall.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Stevie G–sorry, spelling __I meant “to keep us up against the wall” struggling in finances.

  • jimminety bop

    They are quieting the talk about taking your weapons away but go and try to buy some ammo. You may have to use tha barrles as pea shooters. Although it probably has been on the books for awhile it seems as just now they are enforcing the fact that if they dredge sand up on your eroded private beachfront property it is no longer your private property but belongs to everyone.
    So why would anyone believe that the government would take over the internet?!
    Our leader Ali Obama is a closet Muslim counseled by any bright minds that could be found in the middle east (is that an oxymoron?) as to how to destroy a country while appearing to be trying real hard to save it!
    But despite this you will vote for him and all his supporters in the next election won’t you? Yeah, because it is not your rep that is hel-ping to tear down the country – it’s those other bad guys isn’t it?

    • gary

      Good point! That is usually what the American voter does. Shoots himself in the foot. How do you think Obama got elected?

  • http://Yahoo Bev Robbins

    Oh great. Shut down the internet when we need it the most? What a great idea. NOT.

    • Elle

      A Kill Switch! Oh of course, obama knows how important that is. How do you think the serpant got in to CONTROL us? The internet was a big plus for his election. Pray on young “No Thinking, single girls.” No Plans FOR US THEN and NEVER any plan. He has proved he is no leader!

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    The thing I worry about is the dependence on the internet by our military and use of digital. I hope they have a back-up form of communication.
    The reasoning for a shutdown makes sense for the financial and military only if they have alternative methods to continue functioning during a cyber attack. I suspect the actual reasoning behind their actions is to curb free speech since this Congress and Administrations liberal and Socialistic actions have taken a beating with the public. The November elections will neutralize the Administration and there will be a resounding defeat of the liberals and other corrupt politicians who have lost touch with those they represent.
    Just make sure you vote and not expect others to do this for you.

    • gary

      Son you have been brainwashed!LOL

    • 45caliber

      Much of the military are “hardened”. That means that they can continue functioning when everything else is gone to h3ll.

    • Artie

      Don’t worry Bud, they have their asses covered!! And you are talking about the vote? You mean that day that comes along in November where people rush to the voting booths, thinking that the vote is real and that their voices will be heard? Don’t be naive Bud!

  • Bob Miller

    I am not in favor of the kill switch nor a fan of Lieberman, but I have to say, Freedom of Paranoia is rampant in this thread. Many stupid ideas are born out of good intent. I will also admit I have not listened to the rational for his idea. That having been said, it doesn’t take very much imagination or understanding of the internet to see how the intention might be good. It’s a stupid idea sure, but it doesn’t make Leiberman a communist for thinking of it.

    • refuse2lose

      Hey Bob;I hope you are aware that EVERY thing our government does starts out with “good intentions”. It sounds like you need a good dose of history to wake you from your blind obedience. If we didn’t have so many examples of GOVERNMENT GONE WILD we would not have a reason to be paranoid.

      • 45caliber

        You aren’t paranoid if someone REALLY IS OUT TO GET YOU.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Bob Miller,
      Yes. Bob, I’m sure you’re right. After all, government just wants what’s best for us… and knows what’s best. We’re just being paranoid. We’re so silly. I’m sure their intentions are good.
      All the best,
      Bob

      • kate8

        Progessives always use their “good intentions” as an excuse to justify their disastrous outcomes (which were, in truth, the intended outcomes).

        They can’t be held responsible as long as their “intentions” were for our own.

        Some people actually buy into this.

        • kate8

          That was supposed to be “for our own good”.

        • 45caliber

          Progressives are following their dream of a utopia. And anyone who gets in the way either needs to be forced into line with it or moved out of the way.

          The most bloodthirsty people are the “intellects” who are so much better than everyone else when they say, “Let’s try this theory and see if it improves things.” or when they say, “This would have worked if it just had the right people managing it – and I’m one of the right people.”

          • JC

            Exactly…the “Arrogance of Social Engineering” has never been more obvious and repulsive in these United States.

    • Chris

      Liberman and his type are just pawns for real commies like Obama.

    • TIME

      Bob Miller,
      The same can be said of Hitler he was only expounding idle rhetoric about removing all traces of the Jewish race when he wrote that in My Struggle.

      So what do you really think all the movment is about to restrict free speech? To remove the 1st amendment to remove the 2nd the 3th the 4th the 5th the 6th the 7th the 8th the 9th the 10th the 11th.

      Is it really all just for your own good? Or is it perhaps something else? Perhaps something truly Dark and Evil.

      By the way the 5th was taken right off the bill of rights with BarryO’s HCR bill, so to were the 9th the 10th the 11th.

      But hey I could be wrong after all when you have 33 Czars all of whom are members of Marxist groups. So really there can’t be anything thats wrong with taking away free speech on the internet now can there be?

      Afterall its the only single place that people can get untainted intel. I do admit that there is a vast pool of bent intel on the net, but really when you think about just how straight CNN or MSNBC are let alone your local news papers that just fill the void of Intel.

      So what differance will it make if all you get is “GOVERNMENT RUN NEWS,” hey its no differant than Orwells 1984 then, oh wait we have that with barryo now.
      The WH press corp is only allowed to ask questions that are given to them to ask, and if they fail to ask the noted question given – they get no more chances to ask questions.

      But hey I could be wrong, NOT!

      • Artie

        Well TIME, the internet IS the only place that we can go to get the real news but, there IS alot of disinformation out here so we must be diligent in researching all claims to make an informed decision on what to believe as truth.

        • TIME

          Artie,
          As I have noted many times I speak with congress and senate persons, and the view I get from them is one of pure horror, there is a congressman from Georgia Hank Johnson that thinks that Islands can sink if to many people are on them.
          A congressman from Calie that thinks that if you have to much freedom you could do many things wrong, thus your freedoms should be very limmited, That Waxman. And he gets reelected over and over again.

          Boxer thinks that if you are not paying at least 90% or more of your income in Tax’s your a thief.
          Pigosee thinks that all Americans are so stupid that they can’t recall what she said an hour ago and anything she dose you will forget within minutes, and she said that on TV!

          As I said the net is bent in many places and TV is for the pigs, news papers are worthless, thus we are left with small fragments of Intel found on the net that we can weave together and come out with answers.

          I thank God we still can do this and we need to protect that venue as best as we can; as when its gone, IT’S OVER.

    • Glenn

      Mr Miller you are naive and ignorant

    • LocalYokel

      Bob, has it ever occurred to you that those that you describe as paranoid may only be the most recent to climb out of the mass media information box and start to use history and common sense to form constructive opinions rather than continue down the road to destruction paved by incumbent politicians? Do yourself a favor and read the constitution first to flush off all the government sewage that has splashed over on you. By all means examine Lieberman’s logic to determine that it condemns and convicts him of malfeasance for refusing to stand by the oath that he spoke when sworn into office. No party affiliation or any other stigma has standing relative to his oath of office. Since his future actions cannot be guaranteed one must consider the risk of continuance of his past record. Joe may well straddle a line drawn in the dust but where will you stand?

  • refuse2lose

    Isn’t it funny how they always use NATIONAL SECURITY as an excuse to take our freedoms,invade our privacy,lock us up for no reason. I think the same excuse was used to pass the Patriot Act,that wonderful piece of toilet paper that basically gives the president dictatorial powers and reduces the common man/woman to slave status. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK GUYS!!! ALL IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY!!

    • Susan

      Yeah, they are so concerned about national security that they allow millions of undocumented, ILLEGAL, aliens to flood across our borders without knowing what they intend to do once they get here–besides drain our system of its resources, which should be the least of our worries when you consider the threat of terrorism. What hypocrisy! If this government doesn’t protect its borders then they have failed their only reason for existing, which is to protect citizens from foreign invaders. Now they want to take away one more freedom — freedom of speech.

      • gary

        Susan you need to read the Bill of Right and the US constitution. You will see what it says about this very situation. DO any of you have the Moxy to do anything about it?? I doubt it. That is precisley why it is like this. What is that expression?? NO GUTS NO GLORY!

        • Susan

          Gary, I see what you mean. I just looked at the Bill of Rights again for the first time since High School. The government should protect us from foreign invaders, but the Bill of Rights essentially protects us from the government itself! But who sees that this is guaranteed to us in a corrupt system where it’s not even ensured that we will have a chance to have a fair election, i.e. ACORN, etc.? Can we even elect people who will actually represent us anymore? I am losing hope that we can turn this around at the ballot box.

        • Harold Olsen

          Gary, you talk as though the people on this thread are all talk and no action. What about you? How much time in the military have you spent? I enlisted in the army on my last day of high school in 1967. I served a year in Vietnam. Can you say anything similar??? Somehow, I doubt it.

          • 45caliber

            Congrats and thanks for your service. I enlisted on Sep. 23 after graduating high school in 1965. My papers showed “airborne infantry” before I signed them. I spent 22 months and 11 days of a 3 year term in Nam. Then I used the GI Bill to go to college to get a degree in Mechanical Engineering. While there – in AR – some of my classmates had known Clinton in college. When he started pushing for public office we began watching him and I started an interest in politics from the point of trying to find out what REALLY is going on.

        • Vicki

          There is a time and a place for everything. From the Declaration of Independace I quote(cause they said it so well)

          “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

          And to the list of specifics. (Replace “He” with Obama where appropriate”)

          “He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.”

          The whole invasion from the south issue.

          “He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.”

          BP oil mess and Ariz call for help at the border.

          “He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.”

          “He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.”

          Those behind closed doors meetings and those calls to “My Office” such as happened to General McCrystal and to politicians who were not on board with the HealthCare bill and others.

          “He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.”

          “He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.”

          “He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.”

          Now that sounds just like the issue with our southern border

          “He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.”

          Not as clear but suing a State for upholding federal laws sounds like a modern day equiv.

          “He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.”

          “He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.”

          Czars, IRS new enforcement officers

          “He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.”

          Many attitudes about this. He did propose that “civilian security force”

          “He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.”

          “He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:”

          Small Arms Treaty. Just to name one.

          “For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:”

          Fort Hood, Fort Bragg…… No he didn’t start this but he didn’t get rid of the standing army either.

          “For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:”

          “For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:”

          “For imposing taxes on us without our consent:”

          Health Care law. Cap and trade if it passes. Note the “our consent” not consent of the legislature.

          “For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:”

          “For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:”

          Note that I chose to comment only on those where in my opinion Obama and some in congress have done the acts listed. In that list of specific grievences there are 19 items. Obama has clearly done 7-9 of them.

          That is why so many of us are worried.

        • 45caliber

          Interesting. You keep saying “You guys” instead of “us”. Are you deliberately trying to get someone to march on Washington with guns?

      • Artie

        Susan, that is another great point to bring up. We are faced with a corrupt government, the NWO elite’s who want a One World Government, with the idea of wiping out 95% of humanity to have their, manageable 500 million total population. These are very major issues. Not to mention the false flag of 9/11 to get the war machine running. But the border with Mexico is wide open. It has recently occured to me that we have a threat upon us that is much worse than any of the above. Let me precede this line of thought by mentioning that we had no problem with foreign terrorist’s until after 9/11 when we invaded Islamist countries, pissed them all off and now we have a REAL terrorist threat because they want to get back at us. So the “war on terror” was really a spark that ignited real terrorism. Now, it is well known information that there are suitcase nukes out there. Are we naive as to believe that there are not terrorist’s, on our soil, at this very moment, who can set off these nukes at any time or any place? This is a problem that NONE OF US can fix! They can be anywhere and in the flip of a switch can set off these nukes. So, even if we replaced the government or, for that matter, totally threw out federal government, got rid of the NWO and all other known threats, this condition still exists and there is nothing that anyone can do to fix this mess. Only divine intervention is going to spare us. Let me repeat and punctuate this, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT ROGUE TERRORIST’S WHO ARE NOW IN THE UNITED STATES WITH SUITCASE NUKES!! We are at their mercy, period!! This is something that neither we nor anyone else can do a single thing about.

        • SaraD

          What Igloo did you manuvere out of? 9/11 was more than just a terrorists attack. It was a declaration of war on the rest of the world. Wake up and smell the roses

  • gary

    I think we need to recruit McCrystal and some others like him to help us organize a large armed force capable of inflicting heavy damage to the government. At the very least put the fear of GOD into them. These forums are getting boring and it leads no where. We need to prove what we believe in and protect it and the constitution. We need action and not words. November will not be enough. In the case of a kill switch I have one of those on several of my firearms. It is really dumb to think of shutting the internet down to protect the government from a cyber attack, when they can have their own shutdown mechanism for the government and military only. That is why the suspicion is mentioned here in this article,

    • Vicki

      Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;

      We were given 4 boxes to be used to protect our free people. Each as a purpose. Each must be used in the proper order.

      Box 1. Soap box (the whole freedom of speech and press issue)
      Use this box to educate your peers and children as we
      do every day on this website.

      Box 2. Ballot Box. Use this box to toss out evil people. The
      soap box is used to inform voters of who the evil people
      are and why they are evil. Nov will show the failure of
      MSM and the success of the soap box.

      Box 3. Jury box. Use this box to invalidate laws that are just
      wrong and or to acquit people of crimes they are falsely
      accused of by a despotic government.

      Box 4. DO NOT OPEN (The ammo box must be left closed till the
      other boxes are taken from us

    • SaraD

      Are we so blind? The government, even though they will not admit it, or afraid of what the people will do if they are allowed to have contact with each other. Afraid that we will find out that we are not ready to lay down and be kicked by them. They have forgotten or never known the strength, God given, that created this nation to begin with.

  • gary

    The fu**ing government or, should I say the Democrats are going mad.That is why an armed force of about 2million would put the fear of god into the DEms and the Republicans which are a better choice, but also need to be reigned in. I would bet that most of the military would go along with a large organized march on the capital. How could they stop it?? This [offensive word removed] government has gone far enough. What happened to the US constitution?? Is it now only a conversation piece or a doormatt? It will not be long and you will need to move to China or Russia to find freedom. Goodgrief, what will happen next.

    • Vicki

      Are you sure you are not an agitator sent here to try and stir us up?
      I remember them from community organizers on campus when I was in college and you sound a lot like them.

    • Al Sieber

      So what doe’s that mean? we should march on Washington armed? something here doesn’t sound right. what will that prove?

  • Jwilly

    Control is the plumb- I was surprised to see someone pull out the Tri-Lateral Commission-The powers to be after Gore invented the Internet! switched to Globalization to give Taking over ones thoughts and energy and wealth seem more grandiose. The money machine reacted and the rest is history-The have nots are like big mosquitoes- they are now in charge of sucking the life blood from the workers.

    • 45caliber

      That’s why we have Politically Correct Speech now. It is a form of thought control. You can’t say what you believe; you have to say what someone else believes or else.

      • angel-wanna-be

        45caliber____SHOT_SCORE!!!

      • Artie

        Sorry but I dont follow the rules of the politically correct. We used to have HP licence plates, handicapped person. I guess that was too derogatory a term for these very sensitive people so they have changed it to PD, physically disabled. Those who worry about political correctness have to measure every damn word they say. Not me!! Political correctness and zero tolerance need to take a hike.

      • LocalYokel

        “Having said that” lead in followed by “Moving forward” are the most abused harness offered for blind public obedience whith total omission of any discription of the real destination.

  • tomdavis1

    Suring WW II the Marines used Navajo Code talkers to thwart the Japanese. I suppose we could utilize smoke talkers from the Plains Indians to communicate. Evn the talk of governmental tampering with the internet is tantamount to declaring war on our free speeech. Better NOT happen or Concord-Lexinton will look like a rugby scrum.

  • Lill

    Hey dips##t, Who ever told you that there was freedom in China and Russia? The Great USA is the ONLY PLACE we have freedom, and that’s being taken away by this government. Impeachment needs to start as soon as we have new blood in Congress, because they are the only ones that can do it!!

    • gary

      Hey DIPSHIT! Ever been there? I have and it is not as bad as your government and the shamestream media tell you. The point is you missed the point because you have your head up your, well, darn you stink! LMAO UFDA!!

      • TIME

        Gary,
        I am not sure what your point is I have been to both Russia and China and I can say with out question its not all roses in either place.
        The citys are a differant animal than when you venture outside the protected zones, aka the Citys.

        I can’t find anywhere where people here in the US are flocking to move to Russia or China.
        Where as in both China and Russia they are willing to pay with everything they own to get here to the US, so what I am I missing Gary?

        • DaveH

          I am getting the distinct impression that Gary is a Liberal plant, whose intentions are to disrupt the board.

          • Vicki

            Yeah I noticed that too.

          • 45caliber

            I’d agree. In some comments he tries to come on as a conservative only to change back in others.

          • JC

            I actually think he means it.

      • Glenn

        Hey Gary I got an idea, MOVE THERE!!

      • LocalYokel

        I’d say he hasn’t even worked seven ten hour days for seventeen cents / hour in one of China’s Walmart manufacturing facillities or been forced to live in their forced housing paying extra for running water and electricity either.

  • gary

    Well I can see that everything is the same in America, except now she has her bow under water and the stern is up and the prop is turning. You sheep are going down with her and won’t even try to save yourselves. How pathetic!!

    • 45caliber

      “You sheep”, huh? Where exactly are you? And what makes you believe you will be okay if the US goes down?

    • Al Sieber

      C.I.A. troll, huh, gary.

      • TIME

        Al He’s not Company.

    • Artie

      We sheep??? Gary we are the ones who are discussing radical change, surely not sheep. Now you, on the other hand, seem to be in collusion with the government as you put yourself at a level above all of us. Well, you have outed yourself as a government shill so why don’t you just move on?

  • Marilyn

    It is all coming. The Disclosure Act will kill free speech. The next to go will be the second amendment…gun control. These Washington DC idgets are going to work their way down the Constitution until the United States as we know it will be totally over-hauled. Our lives will be totally in the hands of Big Government. The Melting Pot of America will become the Smoldering Pot. Why? Because the People allow it to happen. If we allow Obama to control the internet, we are doomed to be more in his control.

    Each voting day, while we have the freedom to vote, get our lazy butts out to the polls and let’s make some changes for the good of our Country.
    Our politicians make decisions for us…we elected them to do that. As they make poor legislation, Americans end up cleaning up and paying for their messes. These past few years have been leading to what we are getting today; Socialism or worse. Obama is well educated and has an agenda. He is carrying out his (and others) plan to have Big Government and few State’s/people’s rights. The odd thing is, Obama is not original. He has studied other Socialist/Communist agendas and believes that all Ameicans will love His New America. How credulous is that?
    What if Obama gave a war and no one attended? hmm.

    • Susan

      How do we know the elections will be FAIR? I don’t trust the system anymore.

      • DaveH

        When it gets to the point where the vast majority of your friends, co-workers, and neighbors say they voted contrary to the people who were elected, then you can start getting suspicious.

        • TIME

          Dave, thats a really strong valid point, again I bring up the following point.

          I speak with hunderds of people all week long week after week month after month year after year, I am not finding but a few that voted for {“Brack MOHAMMED HUSSAIN Obama,”} The good Christian.
          Who by the way there is “NO Record” of his name change from Barry Soetoro in ALL of the US court system.

          Of what begs the question how did the Name change come about as the Barry Soetoro is noted as a Muslem of “Foreign birth – here in the United States as a student on aid.”

          With that in mind over near the last two years, I can count less than 200 people who will admit to voting for him.
          That then begs the question who did vote for him?
          What was the number again 50 million?

          But be all that as it may, please also keep in mind its BarryO that also made the statment that there are NO Terrorist that we are fighting. Again this begs the question why would he need a “KILL SWITCH for the Internet?”

          • 45caliber

            It was decided to go to computer voting because of the “chad” problem. It isn’t easy to mess up chads but it is easy to program and re-program computers. In one recent election, there was a problem with some computers and they had to go into the computers to straighten it out. The voting commissioner was shocked at how easily it was done.

          • Vicki

            You needed to ask right after the Nov 2008 election who voted for him. Most folk that voted for him that I remember don’t admit to voting for him now.

          • DaveH

            Time,
            They aren’t making their pitch to intelligent people. They are expecting for it to go right over the heads of the Liberals.

      • 45caliber

        How about SC? Greene, an unknown, beat the Dems choice for Senator. Now the Dems want to invalidate the election to put their man in. Sounds as if we have a fair voting procedure, doesn’t it?

    • 45caliber

      Oblama can’t understand why people would disagree with him. After all, he is perfect. If they do, they must have something wrong with them and therefore should be watched and, if necessary, locked up.

      In 1968 the Air Force Academy listed the three (3) rules for takeover of the US.

      1) Destroy the ruggedness of the American people by concentrating their attention on spectator sports and sex. (Are you a fan of football, perhaps?)

      2) Take control of the news media to prevent the people from knowing what goes on in their legislative halls and to destroy the image of any natural leader the people might want to follow. (Last term my state legislature passed 1700 new laws. I only heard of 5-6. How about you? And have you noticed how the media is down on Palin, for instance, regardless of how you like or dislike her?)

      3) Disarm the population through gun control. (Enough said.)

      • http://YAHOO PATSY WEICK

        You know so much has been said about SARAH PALIN & Her Family I think it is time for people to wake up what kind of people, Run a person down as much has been done to her. I don’t know why McCain choise her as a running mate but he did But the Joke was on him & those that thought it funny. I voted for her & yes I’m a women, I think if alected she would have done a great job for our Country. If she were to run in 2912 for Preident I would vote for her, As in talking to other people they would too. It just may be the time for a women in the Preidentual Office. Who knows? She would be better then what sits their now. You don’t run down a Women just because she is a women. We all have things in our lives that need settling, And skillitans in our closets, She didn’t hide hers her live was an open book. She knows more about government then most & how it needs to be run certainly a lot more then the itnut that sits in the White House now. OUST HIM IMPEACHMENT IS THE WAY YOU HAVE A VOICE USE IT BEFORE IT’S TO LATE.

        • 45caliber

          I have relatives in Alaska. When her name was first brought up, I asked them about Palin. They said they really liked what she had done and certainly intended to vote for her. That was enough for me.

    • Artie

      Marilyn the only fly in the oinment with what you say is the fact that you still believe that the vote isn’t rigged.

  • oldbill

    I would suggest learning as much as you can, now.

  • gary

    Marilyn your intentions are very good, but you are like every other American and have been brainwashed since birth. Your vote means nothing much and has not for a long time. You will see what I mean after the November election. There will be many Trojan Horses elected, and it will be politics as usual. America is almost gone! WHy, because you cannot fight the lions with a bunch of damn sheep. HOw do you think Obama got elected? Good grief!

  • gary

    Marilyn I want you to know that I meant no offense to you, just trying to make a point. I hope you understand.

  • bev z

    WHY DID YOU NOT PUBLISH MY COMMENT?
    ARE YOU PREJUDICE?

  • LES

    Obama is following the plan of Cloward & Piven, two professors at Columbia University. They outlined a plan to socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. With over 50% living on the Government they can then impose a socialist/Marxists government on us. From the number supporting Obama they are probably not too far from their goal.

    • 45caliber

      If you add the number on welfare to the number who depends upon their paychecks from the government (all stages of the government: feds, state, local, schools, etc.) about 53% of the people depend upon the government now.

      Not all would vote for them but most would. We are there.

      • LocalYokel

        I’ve been warning people about that breakover point for 40 years. Now we have to worry about the Muslim population percentage breakover point that has already shown its head in Illinois and is crowing in NYC.

  • bev z

    TO BEV AND TIM,

    CHINES IN YOUR BACKYARD ARE COMING!

    • bev z

      THIS IS A BIASED NEWSLETTER.

      • Glenn

        and you are naive and ignorant

  • Dave

    you all have good points and you are all right. I would say to you remember your history we must all stand together for freedom and be ready to act as one, united we stand divided we fall.

    • DaveH

      If you really believe in Freedom, then look at the Libertarian Platform. No other political party comes close when it comes to the freedom to control your own bodies and own property.
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • Vicki

        Agreed. Vote Libertarian. Its the only way to be sure. :) At least till they get corrupted by power. Then vote them out and on to the next.

      • LocalYokel

        Watch out Dave, here comes the wasted and split vote bull.

  • Glenn

    email them or call them, dont just set on this site and bitch, do something!!

    Heres the one I sent Leiberman and Collins

    Senator Leiberman
    Pull your Kill Switch bill. This is just another ploy to get more government control over private business. It’s absurd to think private ISPs can’t or won’t take care of any serious threat or emergencies; they are very capable Mr. Leiberman. We the people see right through you phonies in office, PULL THE BILL.

    • Vicki

      some of us write to them (and our own) every day. http://www.downsizeDC.org

    • Artie

      Glenn, they will not read your email’s or messages and they will not take your calls. I’ve written to them and got form letters in response. I also wrote a long, well thought out letter to Obama. About 3 months later, I got a letter from Obama. The letter began with “Dear Friend”. From that point on, it was a standard form letter. Obama never even saw the letter. It was probably intercepted by one of his staff. They took the letter, made sure I didn’t make any threats and then threw it in the form letter bin. So, letters, emails, phone calls are useless devices. We need to take back our government and our country. How we go about this in a non violent form is beyond me. In the end, I believe that we are going to have a second revolution in this country. Always remember, there are far more of us then there are of them.

      • Vicki

        Several million of us standing on the White House lawn might get their attention :) We might end up facing tanks as did the Chinese dissidents in the past but then we would know were we stand.

        • LocalYokel

          Search FEMA Fort Dix NJ. Facillities are already prepared.

  • Harold Olsen

    Lieberman is either stupid, thinks we are, is naive, or just a flat out liar. I’m inclined to believe that he is both a flat out liar and thinks we are stupid. Giving Obama the authority to shut down the Internet whenever he deems it a national emergency would result in only one thing, depriving us of our Constitutional right to criticize Obama. He would shut down the Internet just to stop us from criticizing him and call it a national emergency. Why doesn’t Lieberman just sponsor a bill making it illegal to criticize our fuhrer. That’s what this amounts to. Lieberman is touted as being a conservative but he is as liberal as any of them and like the rest he hates this country and wants to take away our freedoms. Obama is no different than the rest of history’s despots: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin. Like all despots Obama will do whatever he needs to in order to stop descent.

    • DaveH

      I agree, Harold.

  • ONTIME

    Joey Liberman is the epitome of the smarty pants liberal Jew and the reason why his religion keeps getting his decent fellow jews killed.

    • Harold Olsen

      I wonder how many people are going to say you comment is antisemitic. I agree with it. It’s one more parallel to Hitler. In Germany, Jews supported Hitler and the Nazis and wanted to join the Nazi party. Once he took power, they continued to support him. Even after he began persecuting them they still supported him. Here in America most Jews voted for Obama. They continue supporting him even though he has an anti-Israel agenda. Lieberman may be Jewish, but if he supports Obama, he’s anti-Israel. Some people just don’t learn from history.

      • Retribution

        Most of the Jews in America do not care one iota what happens to Israel. They are Jews ethnically, but not spiritually. In fact, the majority of them are atheists. This is why 90% of them are Democrats and do not view abortion as a crime against humanity.

      • LocalYokel

        Many proudly trace their blood lines back to the Sanhedrin court. They cause division in Israel today also. Search news@israelnationalnews.com

  • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

    Bob, All

    I wasn’t reading the information on this board when the Patriot Act was passed. Were as many outraged at that? Good article. Thanks much for the information. The facists/New World Order (Bush Seniors words) people are really trying to move forward. They made such huge gains after 9-11 and the war on “terrorism”, and Obama, the savior of the liberals didn’t do a thing to reverse any of the insanity from that administration. When will Democrats and Republicans alike realize to the fullest that their parties are really no more than pawns in a game of solitaire chess played by the hand of the elite of the planet. Neither is really any better than the other ultimately and to think so puts you dead center as a part of the problem.

    • 45caliber

      Duende and all others:

      Clinton bragged while he was still in college that he had been approached by a group of eight people who told him that they would put him in the White House if he did what they told him to do. Guess what? He made it. I heard that story in 1968 and watched to see.

      I doubt very seriously that these people or heirs thereof are not still busy with their games – and I don’t consider Oblama good enough to do this on his own.

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        45caliber. You seemed to have jumped right over Bush senior who ised the phrase “New World Order” after Iraq I. My mouth dropped open and was waiting to hear the clamoring of the press. you also seemed to have jumped right over Bush junior whose a member of the Skull and Bones right along with Kerry. I’m suspecting the gun sights on that 45 are a little left winded :-)

        Paz

        Duende

        • 45caliber

          I don’t KNOW about either Bush, although I have my suspicions. I do know about Clinton however. Actually it wasn’t boasting so much with him. It was, “I’m going to be President some day and if you don’t go to bed with me I’m going to remember it. If you do, then you can brag about going to bed with the President. And here is why I’m going to be President…” It was one of the women he propositioned who told me about this. (Actually several of them.)

          I suspect that most of the Presidents going back for close to a hundred years were controlled by some group. That includes the two Bush’s. I doubt if it is the group you are talking about. That is too open. I suspect it is a lot more secret than that. And I’m fairly certain that 5 of the 8 that Clinton spoke about are owners of news media groups.

        • 45caliber

          Oh, also, when I shoot and don’t hit the bullseye, my shots are usually high or low but very seldom right or left.

          • JC

            Same here.

    • TIME

      Duende,
      Very good post thanks for your observations.
      I can’t tell you what happened when the PA was made law on line, I can tell you I was personaly so angry with all involved I would have smacked thier butts into next year if they were standing in front of me.

      The PA should have been repeeled ASAP. It was and is 100% wrong in all respects, there is nothing good about it at all.

      Hey again I mean it thank you, your post are always worth a read.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Duende,
      This web site didn’t exist when the USA PATRIOT Act was passed. However, I wrote about it often in my newsletter. Subscription and archives available at http://www.boblivingstonletter.com. I’ve been writing about the lawless government, alternative health, asset protection and liberty issues for 41 years.
      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Artie

      You hit the nail on the head friend!!!

    • LocalYokel

      Notice again no destination named in term “Moving forward”?

  • Michael Barrett

    Uncle Joe doesn’t believe in free speech – he believes in control.

  • Celerity1

    Armageddon comes when all phone systems shut down, as almost all communication is now carried over the internet!

    • 45caliber

      Actually I expect it to happen when the “elites” who want world control saturate bomb the country/world with nukes to use the EMP wave to destroy all electronics in any form. Then they sit back to wait as all the people who lack food and water die.

      Without electricty, pumps cannot work and most people depend upon pumped water to live. They also depend upon regular delivery of food by trucks. Few families have more than one week’s worth of food at home – and all food stores stock only one week’s worth of food to keep it from spoiling. Since travel would be restricted to foot travel (unless you have a pre-electronics car) few people will survive – almost none in the cities.

      Then, when they have allowed enough to die, they can move in with their protected armies and take control, using new electronics to make sure no one else gets ideas about over throwing them.

      • Susan

        For a very realistic scenario on this type of event read the novel “One Second After.” It is backed up by tons of research the author did and he has even spoken to Congress about this very real threat that seems to make our government officials yawn.

  • John Despard

    Ever since I first saw the original movie “1984″ with I believe Edmund O’Brien as (“Winston”?) I felt “Big Brother” might be watching us through our televisions or might do so in the future. Since the advent of the computer I feel it may be the instrument of choice. TVs are in virtually every home in the nation and the government through schools seem anxious to put computers in every home. Along with cameras on street corners and satellites in the air how far are we from having our every action and even thought known to the government?

    • 45caliber

      Every phone, fax machine, and computer has a chip that records all messages. This was thanks to Clinton and his “Privacy Improvement Act.” Once a day your house is called by telephone and all info on these chips are recorded onto a computer somewhere. The messages are then searched for certain key words that can be changed as desired. Any ‘trigger’ of one of these words allows the computer to flag that message and allow a human to see/hear it.

      60% of all spy satellites the US government has placed in space are pointed at the US. They take a picture of every place in the US every four seconds. Using infrared technology (and I’m certain other techs as well) they can see how many people are in a building and follow them as they move about. They can read a paper laying on the ground from a picture taken in space. They can read license plate numbers on cars and take pictures of people. (How do you think they got a picture of McVey so quickly?)

      They do not allow these pictures to be used to solve crimes because the people would then realize just how little privacy they have.

      Right now Congress is considering a proposal to require GPS’s be installed in all vehicles – attached to a short range transmitter. They would then record your milage and tax you on how far you drive. One Congressman has also proposed that it be tied to the GPS map. If the GPS sees that you are exceeding the speed limit anywhere or do not stop at a marked stop sign, you will get tickets as well.

      Aren’t you glad you live in a country like ours with all the technical gadgets we have?

      • TIME

        45 Cal, You just said a mouth full of REAL HARD CORE TRUTHS. I hope folks can grasp it all.

        • libertytrain

          Time and 45 Caliber – I’m not doubting what you say but I still am confused by how inept our computer systems were said to be during the 9-11 time frame – I am wondering how our computers were so old or inefficient yet someone somewhere in the USA can do this -

          • 45caliber

            Computers do as they are told. They are NOT smart. If the people telling them something are stupid, so are the computers. If you notice the government isn’t talking about working with the computers – except their own, of course. They are talking about shutting the privately owned ones down completely. Incidently, if you really want to keep your computer data safe, disconnect your computer from the telephone system after any use. It won’t be completely fool proof but it is a lot safer that way.

          • 45caliber

            Also, remember we are dealing with the government here. The people, us, use programs we buy. We don’t write our own programs as a rule. So if I have some data on Excel, for instance, I can send it to you and you can look at it.

            Government employees, on the other hand, like to build kingdoms so they will be safe from anyone trying to get rid of them. The best way is to force other agencies who want data to come directly to you. Then you PRINT off the information they want instead of transfering it to their computer. That was what happened at 9-11. Everyone needed data and the sole person in charge was snowed under. Each agency writes its own software instead of using a better program they can buy for a hundred bucks or so. That way no one can use their own computer to get data from your computer. So the CIA, FBI, etc. cannot easily swap data.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            9-11 was supposed to happen. The charges were planted and ready to go. All they needed was a gullible public.

          • JC

            That being said, I think it’s probable that there is just too much information to mine. So go ahead use your computer, use it a lot.
            Say what you mean and do not be intimidated.

  • http://www.churchofthemuzzelflash.com/ Freeman

    The sponsors and supporters of this need an off switch!
    Need someone to file treason charges against a few like these guys. That might slow the rush to socialism/communism, etc.
    Then too, as I see it, we just might need a new government that abides by our founding documents…
    Most of our representatives have committed treason when they voted for anything that goes against The Constitution…oops!
    Will need an alternative form of communications I betchya…
    Might note that all main stream media is already controlled…we are just next in line.
    Guess we’ll see, hmmm?

  • kate8

    I have been hearing from numerous sources that something is afoot for the end of June. Also for August and Sept.

    Stay on the alert, everyone. There are hundreds of thousands of foreign troops (Polish, Russian…) training on US soil as we speak.
    Everything is in place for us to take a big hit.

    I also heard that 29 American cities have been targeted for something.

    I’m just passing this along. Take it for what it’s worth, prepare, and PRAY.

    This is not to raise fear, people. But you know it’s just a matter of time, and we can no longer aford to keep our heads in the sand. The wise are able to read the signs. Only the foolish refuse to be vigilant.

    God be with us.

    • 45caliber

      kate: See my comments below. It should make you worry.

    • Vicki

      Sounds like a TV show “Jericho”

    • Al Sieber

      I agree, last summer there were lot’s of military exercises on our soil with foreign troops. thank’s for the info. they would have to face a armed population, us. I heard the Russians didn’t want the job.

      • JC

        The most important thing is to be well supplied and organized.

      • 45caliber

        I just heard that Hillary has signed onto the “Small Arms Treaty”. That is designed to disarm all the civilian population world wide.

        Further, the Census people took a GPS reading of everyone’s front door. It is SUPPOSED to insure they got everyone. However, it is easy for foreign troops to find you if they have a GPS reading.

    • Jeep

      At the risk of receiving the wrath of the conspiracy theorists here…there are NOT “hundreds of thousands” of foreign troops in America. The DOD does have an extensive exchange and training program with many of our allies and earstwhile friends that may include a few thousand troops across many bases. As a former “Opposing Forces” soldier at the Joint Readiness Training Center I was accused many times of being a “foreign UN soldier” as we wore foreign uniforms and drove captured soviet style vehicles. But, I assure you I was born in Missouri and served in the US Army! I even have a legitimate birth certificate (as opposed to a certificate of live birth). Just wanted to set the record straight, we are not that far down the road…

      • Vicki

        You are I would guess a member of the US Armed services. Do you not think it strange that you would be in a uniform of a foreign power on American soil? Or were you on foreign lands at the time?

  • Ellen

    Big Switchs to block Internet, Big World Order. Sounds like obama is right up to his evil schemes. Another freedom gone. He/Michells hated america, SO – THEY think they are making it better? Was that their goal? Why did they stay? Put them in a cubbie hole and seal it up and move them on to never never land along with there czars!

  • Harold Olsen

    You have to wonder about someone who, when running for president, says he wants to be a uniter. Then, once in office, he does everything he possibly can to divide us. The divisions are blatant on sites like this. He also claimed he wanted to improve our standing in the world. So, how does he do that? He sucks up to our enemies and alienates our friends so that not only are our enemies against us but he is turning our friends against us.

  • http://www.fontanastudio.com Al Fontana

    We need a kill switch, all right, but not attached to the internet.

  • 45caliber

    To all here who council firing squads, etc.

    Do you believe for a moment that any Congressman or the President would hesitate for a moment at dropping a nuke on any perceived threat even if it was in downtown LA or NY?

    I don’t. And they have a hand on the button.

    If any force started gathering with the intention of going to Washington, I suspect it would be nullified by a nuke, particularly since most of the police and the military wouldn’t act to put down what they would consider a demonstration to change the government. And I further expect that nuke to be a mile or so in the air – not a real problem to destroy what is directly beneith it.

    But the main reason won’t be the destruction of the threatening force. They feel they have that covered anyway. But they would want to make an example that would worry the rest of the country. What better way than to use the EMP from the nuke to shut down water, food, etc. to thousands – perhaps millions – of people? Few would probably die of starvation but many would suffer – and you can bet the MSM newsmen would be there to cover it with every camera they can find. And the main story would be: “Look at these poor people who were created victims by the bad people who threatened our government. Be sure to report any such people in your area before you too become a victim.”

    • Raggs

      All I can say is let the Bastard try that!

    • TIME

      Dude, you do fully understand whats really going on, good. I will keep an eye out for your post.

      • 45caliber

        Did you ever hear of the “Goals 2000″ program that Clinton pushed? It was meant for schools. The idea was to teach the youth (age 5 and below) that the government is always right and that you should report anyone – including your family – if you see them do something the government says is wrong. Some schools actually tried to use that program.

        • TIME

          45 Cal,
          When my son was in school back in the 80′s the teachers were working the kids over for intel on the parents, as in – how much money they have, and make, what goes on at home, who comes by the home, what the parents have where they go and why.
          I could be wrong but that’s classic Hitler Youth programs right here in the United States and all that right here in the 1980′s.

          The HJ reported on everything that went on at home and who is not loyal to Hitler and the Reich based on a childs thoughts.

          • 45caliber

            Clinton said he “Co-authored” the Goals 2000 program. Later he said that he used Hitler’s Youth Corps as a model and insisted that Hitler was the most intelligent man in the 20th century.

        • JC

          An exact replica of Nazi Germany.

          • DaveH

            The Soviet Union used similar tactics.

          • JC

            Yep! Pol Pot, Mao Tse Tung…
            You’d think we’d learn.

    • kate8

      45, and the FEMA camps are staffed, stocked and ready to take in the displaced and evacuees.

      They want to terrify us into submission.

      But we are on to them.

      What if we, as a huge collective, and instead of being fearful, focused on invoking the power of Almighty God and His Love to envelop the earth? It just might interfere with and dismantle any nefarious plans they have for us.

      I have often thought, what if we did the same for the Gulf, for the chemtrail clouds, evil legislation…

      Physically, we are unequally matched. But for God…

      • 45caliber

        According to an FBI member, there are three lists of people. Red, Yellow, and Green.

        Red are people who are to be picked up first to be locked away. These include but are not restricted to: all military, all veterans, all conservatives, all religious people, etc. Incidently, that includes all police, which includes all FBI agents.

        The Yellow list includes all those who might need to be picked up. Those are people such as on welfare, etc. who might otherwise support the present government but aren’t actively providing money and support for it. Most of welfare are on this list as they provide nothing to the economy and therefore don’t really pay taxes.

        The Green list is all the ‘safe’ people. You can guess who are on that list.

        I’m on the first one due to several categories.

        • TIME

          45 Cal,
          I have also not only heard of this, a few of the congress persons I spoke with had like comments and felt it was all rather funny.
          Politicians and drinks – and you can get some great intel.

        • Artie

          Has anyone confirmed the existence of these dots on mailboxes? I have yet to see one. I don’t know if this is real or just a viral rumor.

          • kate8

            Artie, dots on mailboxes? I ask because, maybe a year or so ago, a bright green dot appeared on my mailbox. I thought, “What the heck?” I couldn’t think of any reason why someone would do this, so I tore it off.

            No dot now. Wonder if it would still be green.

          • kate8

            I’m thinking it was green. Reflective. Could have been yellow, but I can’t remember now.

            Anyway, I just looked it up, and it seems that dots have been all over. Weird.

            Anyone else have dots?

          • 45caliber

            I think mine is red. I’ll have to look.

  • http://www.actondebt.com Bruce

    No Way. It cannot be allowed it cant.
    One step closer to a socialist dictatorship.
    Please people. We have to stop this control freak crap now.

  • Raggs

    I wonder what this emergency will be…humm how about this..
    Pelosi is on the rag, nope that cannot be it she is older than dirt.
    obama forgot his golf clubs… no not it either the tax payers will just buy him another set… I know.. joe biden forgot what he was going to say… no not it either that happens all of the time… OK then it must be… And the winner is…al gore got stuck in traffic due to rain showers caused by global warming.
    Since he said he created the internet we should rest comfortably if he cannot make it work ( what ever that is ).. he cannot run the service…

    • kate8

      Well, we just had the oil spill. Whatever it is, it will be another severe economic hit.

    • 45caliber

      The next crisis will have something to do with illegal aliens here and amnesty. I think AZ is starting it. Considering that most states have their legislatures start next spring and not this year, it looks as if about thirty states will adopt what AZ has. That would force the government to do something. Whatever it is, it will be a crisis though. See Senator Kyl’s comments on his meeting with President Oblama.

      Something about, “If I seal the border like you want, there won’t be a reason for you all to pass an amnesty bill.”

  • cerebus23

    i think the penn and teller series on bullshit and gun laws summed it up best, when they pointed out that thomas jefferson said that every 20 years or so there needed to be a revolution, back by guns, to maintain freedom and oppose tyrrany. we way way way overdue. :P

    • 45caliber

      I think it was Ben Franklin who said that we needed a revolution every 200 years to throw out all the bad stuff and start over. We are still overdue. He was also the one who said, “If a young man isn’t a liberal, he hasn’t got a heart. If an older man isn’t a conservative, he hasn’t got a brain.”

  • IRA

    This is my first post here, so please bear with, or not. As I see it, it’s not so much Obama and his Democrat friends in congress, they are just the tip of the iceberg, as it is the “PEOPLE” (aka voters) who voted in majority numbers to “put them there”. They didn’t get there through osmosis. “PEOPLE” voted them in. I think a lot of energy is being wasted here preaching mainly to the choir when it would, should, and could, be put to better use convincing those who voted for Obama ‘and his crew’, that what they did was heinous, stupid, uninformed, inexcusable, selfish, and a lot more, and is the main reason we have most if not all of the problems we have today. We need to work on these “PEOPLE” (aka Dem voters) to try to get them to see the error of their ways, and vote responsibly in the future. I’m not sure that it is possible, since so many of these people vote for the Dems because of the Dem ideology (communism/socialism) or more basically what the Dems promise to give to them if they will “Just Cast Your Vote For Me”. I’ll give you the sun, moon, and stars, on the backs of working Americans. The Dems have been promising their constituents the good life for over 60 years now, and they are no better off today, perhaps worse off, than they were 60 years ago, but they still vote for them. This ”method” that the Dems use of promising the sun, moon, and stars, to garner votes is what makes them the most immoral, contemptible, vile, dishonest, despicable, human beings that ever walked upon this earth. Personally I think it’s too late as there are now more voters with their hands out to the gummint, than not. Hard to get someone to vote for a candidate who is telling, or going to tell you, to get off of your fat lazy ass and get a job and support yourself and your family. Be responsible and accountable. If you want something, go out and earn it, quit looking to the gummint for it. Too many voters don’t want to do that. They find it much easier to suckle off of the government teats instead. In closing I also have to say that many republicans in congress aren’t a whole lot better. I’m all for a small, conservative gummint, little or no welfare, states rights, strong military, literal interpretation of the constitution, and on and on, now show me a Republican in Congress who believes the same, and whose ‘actions prove it’. I fear for this once great country of ours and I’m sick to my stomach with regard to the way it’s headed. We really need to work on ”Dem. voters” if we are going to save ourselves, this November and into the future. I’d like to see some serious discussion here on just how to do this, or nothing will change in November. So sad.

    • Raggs

      Are you sure people voted him in?

    • 45caliber

      Up until Kennedy, the Democrats were a party of the working class. The GOP was the party of the salaried people and rich.

      After Kennedy was killed, Johnson “discovered” the minorities. At first it was just the blacks but they soon branched out. The idea was that they could pay some leaders to give the minority vote to them. That’s how people like Jesse Jackson got started. (I don’t know or care if he was one then. So don’t bother to correct this. He still gives the Democrats their minority vote when possible.)

      But to buy the minority voters, they had to promise them something. That’s when welfare got started. And it had to be paid for. There aren’t enough rich to pay for such things so the workers had to do it. The workers didn’t like it.

      Here in the South the Democrats were almost the ONLY party. If you wanted to vote for anyone for state or local offices you had to vote Democrat since the Republicans didn’t even bother running anyone for such positions. When the general election came around, the Democrats were without any opposition. But within about ten years that started to change as the workers realized that they were paying for the minorities to sit at home. Within another twenty years, the South became firmly GOP in most places to counter this.

      The North had been primarily GOP since there were a lot more salaried and college grads there. But the liberals began moving into the colleges as teachers when they realized that the South was moving away from them. The unions were the only hold-outs for the liberals.

      Actually at the time, the Democrats were the conservatives and the GOP was the liberals in that the GOP was the primary group that wanted change in Washington. Now it is the other way around.

    • Artie

      You said “when it would, should, and could, be put to better use convincing those who voted for Obama ‘and his crew’, that what they did was heinous, stupid, uninformed, inexcusable, selfish, and a lot more, and is the main reason we have most if not all of the problems we have today. We need to work on these “PEOPLE” (aka Dem voters) to try to get them to see the error of their ways, and vote responsibly in the future”

      Heinous, stupid, uninformed, inexcusable, selfish? Are you crazy? I think that the word that you are looking for should be MISLEAD!! How about all of those people who voted for Bush, twice!!!! Yes, I voted for Obama because he seemed to be the lesser of the two evils. First let me say that it is an abomination that we only have two choice to begin with. All of this crap started during Bush’s tenure!! Are you forgetting the false flag of 9/11, the Patriot Acts, all of the laws, written to “save us from the terrorist’s”. No, I guess that you forgot all about that. Obama is just picking up the ball where Bush left it and continuing the plan! Even thought I voted for Obama, I want him out of office as much as everyone on this thread. I see him for what he is. Maybe you can be a Monday morning quarterback but the rest of us had to choose based on what the politicians said during their campaigns, hoping to God that they are being truthful. Who knows where we would be if McCain won. Probably at the same place or worse off, but not in a better place. Remember that McCain talked about our troops in Iraq or Afghanistan for 100 years. It’s easy for you to cast judgment on all of us from you high seat of foreknowledge!

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    When this speech becomes illegal, I’ll become a criminal: “I may become an enemy of the state, but never of the people”.

  • 45caliber

    The REAL goal of our government is to make all of us the equivalent of “indentured servants”.

    If you study history, that was what the slaves in the North were called. Officially they were to pay back their expenses of transportation to New England. (Considering that most of them were put on the ships at gun point, I would certainly consider them slaves.) People in New England would bid on them when they arrived. They were to work seven years to pay back this sum. During that time, they MUST do whatever the owner said they had to do, regardless of what it was. Use your imagination. HOWEVER, the owners would do like most pimps do with illegal women today: they “charged” the “indentured servents” for their food, shelter, clothing, etc. at about ten times what it actually cost. So they were always going deeper into debt rather than paying it off. At the end of seven years the owner would go to the local judge and show papers saying they still owed hundreds or thousands of dollars. The judge would then rule that they remained servants until that was paid off too – with no time limit.

    At the time of the Civil War many grandchildren were still trying to pay off their grandparent’s “bill” while running up one of their own. When they were finally freed, a couple of years AFTER the war was over, most headed west, mainly to get away from “master”.

    Did you notice something here? The OWNER would run up the debt of the SERVANT – while the servant had no say-so on it at all. Guess what Oblama is doing in Washington with things like the healthcare bill? Your grandkids would be lucky to pay off your debt – forget about their own. And until it is paid off the “master” has the right to do anything to you and take anything you have away from you.

    Incidently, how many of you are familiar with FDR’s special call to Congress in 1933? One act them was to declare war on the American people and then surrender the US to the Navy. Offically all of us are war prisoners ever since.

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Gary: If it was me that said I have been brainwashed, my response is I have been there, done that. One mentioned that the military systems are hard wired. Yes, that is true but I have been to the Pentagon pointing out weaknesses in the system and their waivers on supposedly secure systems. The Pentagons system was tapped into recently and I hope they resolved the issue.

    Ira: You hit it right on the head. I suspect President Obama won like Al Franken did with more votes than voters but it is a moot point now.
    There were several hundred more votes in one county than registered voters in the recount in Franken’s favor. Nothing was done.
    I may be wrong but I think there will be a house cleaning in November and it won’t be only Democrats but expect the Liberals are going to get smashed and the result will be a lame duck Administration that won’t be able to do further damage.

    Raggs: You are funny. Got a good laugh on the last submission. I really think Nancy Pelosi is mentally unstable. Can you believe some of the stuff that has come out her mouth?

    • 45caliber

      Al Franken’s vote sounds like Texas. We had more votes from one county here than we had people in the county, much less registered voters. Of course that didn’t mean much as the county only has about 150 people total. A young couple had a baby there and they had a county-wide celebration. It was the first baby in the county in nearly fifty years.

    • IRA

      Hello Bud, The critical point now is that he won with more VOTES, legal or otherwise. We MUST change that, or November will come and go with no meaningful change in D.C. If we the people, are successful we must then hold the elected’s feet to the fire ‘continuously’, and NOT back off or become uninterested, lest the special interests move in and take control. CONSTANT communication with our elected officials is a must. If we become derelict in that duty then we deserve what we get. We still must work to ‘change the minds’ and voting habits of many voters if there is to be a change in November. HOW do we do it??? Ira

      • chuck b

        ira

        the liberal schools in the last 45 years have done their job, with the help of the media they have twisted the thinking of the populace.
        there was a polling segment on drudge last night, by rasmussen, the majority of people at this time favor hillary for president, i believe barry came in second. the gop favored romney. does this indicate to you where we are as a country.

        • IRA

          Yes it does tell me where we are now, and I agree for the most part. You are right about the schools, but how many of us adults took an active role in what the schools were, and are, today teaching our kids. Did you go to PTA meetings, school board meetings, preview textbooks, etc. I suspect like myself you did not. Shame on both of us, and on any others who did not take an active role. We have no real leg to stand on when it comes to bitching about what our kids are learning today, unless and until, we start to take an active role.
          HOW do we change it??? Talk radio is, as far as I can tell, a really good way to get the truth out about liberals/liberalism and what it’s doing to this country, to a large audience quickly. Here is a good place, albeit to a very small audience. Any other ideas? We must change how people vote and why, November is not that far away. Ira

          • DaveH

            We need to get the Government out of the Education Business (especially the Federal Government). It is a conflict of interest. We need to push hard for voucher systems, so that parents can send kids to the schools of their choice. And we need to stop the Government from telling the schools what curriculums to teach. The surest way to dumb down the population is to teach everybody the same cookie-cutter subjects and have few students who can think outside the box.

  • http://hotmail WILLIAM

    We have a kill switch of are own IT’S CALLED A ” VOTE “.VOTE for Americans not for the cartels in Washington!.

  • Raggs

    oh-boy-obama is putting a kill switch on everything.
    Oil, banks, auto, housing, afghan, Israel, employment, space ( not the empty one between his ears ). income, health care, welfare, social security ( referred to now as insecurity ). No wonder this bum want’s to raise taxes, he has screwed everything up!

    • Jeep

      He has not quite put a kill switch on everything…he hasn’t put one on the oil spill!!!

  • airdaleusn

    POLITICAN: a person primarily interested in political office for selfish or other narrow short-sighted reasons
    TREASON: the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance
    TRAITOR: one who betrays anothers trust or is false to an obligation or duty.
    These definitions can be found in webster’s and they define who?

    A FIX: FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION, the central government does not exist to provide a paycheck, a job, a road, health care, charity for the indigent, or a minimum wage. these are individual responsibilities and unconstitutional.
    CUT FEDERAL SPENDING AND REDUCE THE PUBLIC DEBT, If programs are not essential(Constitutional), why are the funded. FORCED ECONOMIC REDISTRIBUTION–”spreading the wealth” through government programs has never been a cornerstone of the American republic.
    ABOLISH TAXES AND ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM: Repeal the Sixteenth Amendment, it is government theft. Implement the FAIR TAX AS WRITTEN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE BILL. COMMONSENSE DUH! The Federal Reserve distorts the market and has inflationary policies
    REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE MILITARY AND END FOREIGN ALLIANCES AND ALL FOREIGN WARS: Be good neighbors and neutral trading partners with the world,end foreign commitments to NATO and the United Nations, reduce the size of the professional military, bring the troops home to defend and safeguard or borders.
    LIMIT IMMIGRATION: NON-ASSIMILATION by immigrant groups is a direct threat to AMERICAN LIBERTY, Immigration should be limited and only to individuals who share the same devotion to the principles of the CONSTITUTION of the United States and are of good moral character.
    REASSERT STATE CONTROL OVER STATE ISSUES: REPEAL the Seventeenth Amendment to the Constitution. Domestic issues are best addressed by the states, Education, etc. Senators were meant to be disenterested defenders of the rights of their states.
    PRESERVE THE BILL OF RIGHTS: NO EXCEPTIONS LEAVE IT AS IS. The Constitution would have never been ratified if not for the Bill of Rights.
    Enough for now. read and let your representatives know how bad things are.
    VOTE NO INCUMBENT BACK TO OFFICE, THE LIES AND CORRUPTION HAS TO STOP

  • Artie

    The bottom line here is, to shut down the internet is to shut down free speech, period. This, of course, is totally against the first amendment right to free speech. If they are worried that “terrorist’s” are going to communicate over the web, well then I suppose that we should not be allowed to verbally speak because, using that flawed logic, if you speak, you can plot. Now, if they shut down the internet, which they won’t do, everything from entertainment venues to online business would come to a halt. No, what they are really going to do is shutdown sections of the web. Specifically, blogs, anti-government websites, social networks. Do we see where this is going? Ultimately, they’re goal is to cut off any form of information that shines the government in a negative light or put’s their actions into question. They will then either shutdown or monitor all email activity. In the end, if we allow them to touch the internet, we will all be robbed of any free speech. Anyone who speaks out against the government will be arrested. It’s called the building of the authoritarian police state. This place is starting to look more like communist Cuba than America. The fact of the matter is that they would like nothing better than to kill the first amendment. We cannot allow them to even put this ball on the ground, let alone start that ball to rolling. We are coming to a critical time in this country and we CANNOT allow our internet to be shutdown or to be hogtied. Their only reason for shutting down the internet is to keep information about their illegal activities, away from the public. If they attempt to shut the internet down, it is time for a revolution in this country because We the People are not going to stand for censorship or loss of the right to free speech in America. It is time to put this government in it’s place!!

    • IRA

      Artie and others. I was musing about the practical aspect of doing this, that is a kill switch on the internet. The internet is composed of many thousands of nodes, small hubs, and ISP’s with as far as I know, ”NO” central point (a really good thing), therefore I wonder just how, or if, this could be done. If it could be done, it would have to be accomplished with the cooperation of MOST if not ALL of the aforementioned nodes, hubs, and especially ISP’s. I wonder how many ISP’s would cooperate?? I have a very good friend who has worked for many years in I.T. for various large aerospace firms, and I am going to pose some of this to him as my technical knowledge of the actual workings of the internet are somewhat limited. Stand by. I just finished talking with him and he concurs with all that I stated above. He states that it would be VERY difficult to do, if not impossible and would REQUIRE, TOTAL cooperation of the ISP’s. I also suspect that if the gummint tried this, that there would be instant lawsuits seeking instant injunctions against this, which hopefully, in all likelihood would be granted. Ira

      • IRA

        P.S. Just a side note that I learned from my good I.T. friend. How many of you are aware that the Feds. now REQUIRE ALL ISP’s who handle emails, blogs like this, and other internet communications to keep copies of those for a minimum amount of time, believed to be either 30 or 60 days. He wasn’t sure of the actual amount of time. Some of you MAY want to be somewhat more careful of what you send over the net, including here. It’s a sorry fact. Just more big brother. Ira

      • Artie

        Well I suppose that Martial Law would shut everything down. Outside of Martial Law, don’t you think that they could threaten the ISP’s or shut them down. They just run around and do whatever the hell they choose, so I don’t know. What I do know is that anyone who uses the internet to get their news will rise up like hitting a hornet’s nest with a stick.

        • IRA

          Artie, I suppose they could do it if they could come up with the resources and enough threats toward the ISP’s. But there are THOUSANDS of ISP’s out there. However as I mentioned previously, there would be INSTANT lawsuits seeking injunctions, that I believe would be upheld in court. Furthermore, if they could do it, sooner or later, most likely sooner, it would create an UNDERGROUND WORLD of ISP’s that they could not get to and control. Much like bootleg stills during prohibition. The Feds finally had to throw in the towel, and give up. As another side note regarding ISP’s and their willingness to cooperate with the gummint and others. Remember not all that long ago, and even currently, when the music industry R.I.A.A. (Recording Industry Association of America) was suing ‘peer to peer’ file sharing software providers for ‘making possible’ the sharing of music files, and other file types, over the internet, and individuals who used same, to share music files. They also went after some of the ISP’s. The ISP’s through their lawyers and the courts made it very clear that they were going to remain neutral. As it should be. The ISP’s would not cooperate with the R.I.A.A. I suspect that a lot of them would also tell the gummint to go and pound sand. At least I would hope so.

        • LocalYokel

          Consider just how much telephone and computer data is sent and received by just one satellite link. Nearly half of all satellite bandwidth is used by international banking transactions. Guess who gets priority?

      • TIME

        IRA,
        Its not a kill switch in the literal form, Its more of you will not be able to get on line to view sights that are not “Politicaly correct” are it were. Such as this sight or any sight that has VIEWS that differ from the Progressive views.
        That is only one method that can be employed.

        Thus making such sights unlawful to view or post on, and if one did with ease they can be tracked down and shut down within a few hours.
        And all people who added content can be collected up also within a few hours and just disapear, Not unlike what happened in Russia or nazi Germany.

        It would be only GOVERNMENT issued sights, in plain words only sights that will not allow any postings / Blogs or any form of comunications other thans whats given to you to place in the public domain.
        OR very simply 100% control of the intel you get, so there can be
        “ONLY ONE mind set.”

        As it is every computer has a built in mic and can be used to record every word spoken in your home near your computer, and thats been going on for 20 plus years now.
        The modern tec has gone beyond anything you can fathom, whats being used on you now in 20 years if your lucky you may get to use, and by that time it will be as outdated as a Covered Wagon from the 1800′s, or not unlike what your using now and think your way ahead of the curve, well hate to break your bubbles your not even on the same page folks, this is not Hollywood this is real life.

        As I noted a few days back on a post, “Pandora’s Box” was opened 30 years ago and its not going backward, as you all feel safe with a Camera on every street, and how long did that go on before you grasped what they can do?

        How long was it before you understood GPS Tracking, its been around for near 40 years, but now its so small it fits in your Pass Port cover and you don’t even know its there, or your cell phone that does everything but wipe your butt. OR your car’s computer it records your movements.
        People when Pandora’s box was opened that was the point in time we jumped headlong into the Orwell era, the progressive knew they had all of us then, thus the need to finish up the wook, thus why barryO was “made” President, note – I did not say voted into office.

        I bet you use tools daily that track your every move and you don’t even know it, your being watched all the time, hey last year the Cencus GPS tracked to your front door!

        TWO WORDS; “Google Earth,” thats when you should have figured out you have eyes on you all the time. How old is that now? Now add 100 years of advancement to whats being used today.
        Oh and your computer this means anyone’s was out dated ten years before it was made now are you getting it?

        Again I say there is no such thing as a accident you all need to learn that factor and UNDERSTAND it from all sides, you can not use a narrow view with this you have to really open your minds to things that seem beyond any bounds that you know.
        At that point and only at that point can you even begin to grasp where we are and whats really going on.

        • LocalYokel

          Also look for Microsoft Location Finder on your home comp.

  • dave

    Ya lets all relax, another politician saying trust me! RIGHT

  • http://gmail i41

    The idea of cutting programs, start by getting rid of welfare for unwed mothers, go after the fathers when mothers apply for government help, make them provide health care, food, clothing and some shelter costs, and day care. Mothers will hold down a job and also include their money in monthly costs. It will cure the breeding and moving on, everything has consequences. Next gut the USDA and paying landowners for to collect land welfare with the CRP programs, to do nothing for million dollar payments. Get rid of the IRS and go flat tax, everyone pays the same 10% rate, no loop holes and special tax hide outs, and this includes the socialist Prez and Congress, get rid of Department of Education, Energy, ATF,Immigration, and all non profit organizations, like nursing homes, make work programs, senior programs, and disadvantaged citizen programs, also all the ilde land reservations. We have too many able body people with their hands in the taxpayers pocket. If the wonks cann’t or will not work, there is plenty of raod ditches that mowing or need cleaning, as do sewers and public buildings and worthless parks. Americans don’t need a college degreed eleit professor who know or do nothing to clean this giantic mess up that we are in. Any government offical convicted of malfeasance of any type, is sentenced to at least 2000 community service hours in prisons and sewage treatment plants, also they are to wear only flip flops, with pink and green strips!

    • IRA

      Yeah!!!!!!! Pink and green striped flip flops and international orange undies. I love it. Ira

    • IRA

      No more welfare for unwed mothers!!! O.M.G. Go after the fathers!!!! Double O.M.G. Yep I agree. HOWEVER, no democrat politician would ever do this. WHY, you ask?? The mother would no longer be beholding to the gummint for her welfare check, and the father, now forced to belly up to the bar and assume responsibily for sowing his seeds would be pissed off as well. A real lose, lose, situation for the democrat politician, or for that matter ANY politician who would so vote. You just will NOT get liberal politicians to do this. Ira

  • Charley41

    Just caught word that Pres. is considering passing executive order for Amnesty for Illegal Immigrants. That would help his NOV. vote,Huh….

  • SBtexas

    Everyone on this website seems to fairly conservative, I like that.
    Ther is a website called the Huffington Post, you’ve all probably heard of it, it is a very, very liberal internet blog. I need help from conservatives with like minds to do verbal battle with the socialist liberals on the Huffington Post, are there any volunteer’s???

    • 45caliber

      I made one comment on Huffington Post and got kicked off. They don’t like differing opinions.

      But you might also like to go to http://www.townhall.com. It is basically a conservative site but does allow liberals too. They can sometimes get into real arguments.

  • hundabuxt

    Hell yes! Huffington Post eh? I’m game. To do nothing is to be the generation that lost America to the enemy. All those who sacrificed as much as the last full measure, their lives, for us and those generations to come yet for this wonderful beacon of freedom, deserve some effort from us. I’m sure as hell not going down without a fight on any level necessary.

  • http://aol.com John Pickett

    Joe Lieberman should get down on his knees and pray for Jesus our Father will return SOON! sotero,obama falls!

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    45caliber: I also wrote to Huffington Post regarding how the American Civil Liberties Union only supports leftist issues and suggested they should change its name to American Communist Liberal Union. They now want to sue the State of Arizona because they feel Arizona is unfairly targeting illegal immigrants. Never mind that they are here illegally and bankrupting their state. Heaven forbid if they check them for legal status. Should Arizona counter with declaring the ACLU a suspected terrorist organization and not allow to enter their state? This is akin to the logic the ACLU is using and also this administration. I think both will lose their case in court because the state has the law on their side under the current statutes.

  • RMagnano

    I a soo disgusted with Senator Lieberman I sent him this letter.

    I saw you today on CNN “STATE of the UNION”. This new bill you co-sponsor with Susan Collins would allow the Government, President, to shut down the internet in a time of emergency. With your bare face smile you said the President will NEVER take over the internet. REALLY? I’ll bet you said the same thing before he took over GM and relieved the CEO of his position and proceeded to shut down the Co. (for retooling). I’ll bet you also did the same when he took over Chrysler Motors. Also when he bullied the CEO’s of banks to sign on the dotted line or they couldn’t leave the room.
    You seem to be right there in the front line when it comes to putting the screws to the American tax payers. Why don’t you follow your friend Chris Dodd and RETIRE?

    Signed a disgusted citizen.

  • RMagnano

    Dear Senator Lieberman,

    I saw you today on CNN “STATE of the UNION”. This new bill you co-sponsor
    with Susan Collins would allow the Government, President, to shut down the
    internet in a time of emergency. With your bare face smile you said the
    President will NEVER take over the internet. REALLY? I’ll bet you said the
    same thing before he took over GM and relieved the CEO of his position and
    proceeded to shut down the Co. (for retooling). I’ll bet you also did the
    same when he took over Chrysler Motors. Also when he bullied the CEO’s of
    banks to sign on the dotted line or they couldn’t leave the room.
    You seem to be right there in the front line when it comes to putting the
    screws to the American tax payers. Why don’t you follow your friend Chris
    Dodd and RETIRE?

    Signed a disgusted citizen.

  • Beth Kaplan

    Since *WHEN* do you believe the Rep. Party of today is so wonderful when it sports such “winners” as Sarah Palin – so bloody ignorant she flounders for words when asked what the Vice-President does?!? Or the general GOP member believes in Noah’s Ark over evolution (I won’t even call it the “theory of evolution”, because to you it just appears to suggest it’s in doubt. It definitely is *NOT*, just the details.) Or that abortion even for rape or incest is a criminal offense, and the one seeking it (legitimately) a criminal of practically the worst kind. Or that being a “Christian”
    automatically means or *makes* one a “good Christian wo/man”, thereby
    branding someone who doesn’t believe/believes in some other faith a
    moral criminal – especially Jews, being allegedly “Christ-killers.” I’d be willing to bet that under 99.99% of GOP-ists, esp. fundamentalist Christians, there’s a secret Jew-hater lurking, ready
    to spring out whenever s/he encounters a Jew or talks together long
    enough. (That’s *my* cynical assessment.) To make it clear why I don’t believe a takeover by the Reps. would be any better than by
    those currently in power (and I’m *really* sorry I voted for this
    schnook), I’d advise everyone to read _The War After Armageddon_ by
    Ralph Peters. It’s considered s-f, but I’d consider it cautionary -
    not that that I think most of the Reps. are going to take it
    seriously – I think most will just go on “drinking the kool-aid” the
    party heads are handing them, not to mention the openly bigoted Rep. commentators. From whom they imbibe relig. hatred & racial bigotry as
    if it were mother’s milk… You don’t like *my* brand of truth-telling, too bloody bad…

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