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Keep Food Reserves Safe In A Crisis

November 14, 2011 by  

Keep Food Reserves Safe In A Crisis

I have heard people jokingly say that they don’t need extra food reserves because they have guns. They casually say, “I will just come to your house.” I believe that people will do whatever they have to do to get food for their family. How will we protect the food reserves we have worked so hard to purchase, store and secure?

We really need to think about this question. Where would be the safest place to store food, water, extra clothing, cash and other necessities? We need to protect these things not only from bugs, rodents and other animals but from looters as well.

Precautions You Can Take To Protect Your Food Investment

I read a true story about a woman who came home from work and found one of her neighbors hauling out bags of groceries from her kitchen pantry. The neighbor was unemployed and financially strapped, so she broke into the house next door and took their food. She was caught and charged with burglary. She was put in jail and is being prosecuted. As times get tougher, more people are going to be unemployed and will do whatever it takes to feed their families; looting will become more prevalent. Many good people will be suffering the consequences of not being prepared with food reserves.

If you have food reserves, I caution you to take stock of your current situation and decide where you should keep your emergency food. Some of the food you purchase needs to be rotated, such as canned goods, dried eggs, powdered milk and perishables like winter squash, potatoes and other vegetables. The food with the shortest shelf life needs to be accessible so it can be rotated and used faster. I suggest you keep long-term food storage in a room that has a lock and key. It might be necessary to lock it with a dead bolt. Hide an extra key somewhere that you will be able to get to in a disaster. Tell your family how to access the food. If someone comes to you asking for food, you can give it out as you wish and not have it taken from you by looters.

Many people have guns to protect their families and themselves from predators and looters. All guns and ammo must be kept locked up as well in a gun safe or a locked room.

I think locking up all emergency survival items is very important. Keep in mind that if there was a crisis and you needed to get to your stockpile quickly, you must be able to find the key easily.

I have friends who keep their food in basements; others keep their food in metal storage containers. Most people keep their food in their kitchen pantry and probably would not be able to make more than a few days’ worth of meals if they had to. We have a root cellar with a food-storage shed on top of it. I also keep food in our basement, in the pantry and in the garage. Wherever you decide to keep your food reserves, you must guard them like you would any other valuable asset.

I believe everyone needs a heavy-duty safe that can be bolted to a cement floor from the inside. I have some friends who went to Hawaii for a vacation. When they returned home, they were shocked to find their safe busted open in their back yard and all their valuables, including $8,000, gone. The safe had been in a bedroom closet. Had the safe been bolted down properly (from the inside) to a cement floor, the thieves would not have been able to take it.

Why Should We Store Food Reserves and What Are We Preparing For?

  • A disruption to food production resulting in food scarcity.
  • Rising fuel prices, which can result in trucking strikes.
  • Harmful outbreaks of bacteria that cause foodborne illnesses.
  • Loss of jobs due to rising unemployment.
  • Loss of homes due to foreclosure.
  • Natural disasters due to changing weather patterns, which include droughts, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and freezing ice storms.
  • Hyperinflation.
  • Terrorist attacks, social unrest, anarchy and war.

There are a lot of good reasons to store food. Food in the pantry is better than money in the bank. I believe in a food savings account. If the banks have any kind of problems, we may not be able to get our money out. What will we do?  Some of our savings is better off being in a food savings account in our pantry or basement. Food reserves bring a sense of security and peace of mind. I like being self-reliant. It gives me independence, freedom and a sense of security that if needed, I could take care of myself and my family for an extended period of time — especially if there were no grocery stores open and no one else to turn to.

My reserve of food is a form of starvation insurance. This type of insurance holds its value. Once you pay for it and put it away, you can still eat it. It could save someone’s life.

  • Did you know that 2 percent of the population of the world grows the food and 98 percent of the population depends on that food? That is true dependency.
  • In Africa during the summer of 2011, more than 29,000 children under the age of 5 died due to malnutrition and starvation. Children in America are also going to bed hungry. What would happen if the welfare system shut down due to lack of funds? What would government-assisted families do?
  • I worry about my seven children and their families and how they are going to make it financially in hard times. They don’t have the finances to purchase the extra food. I encourage them to stockpile extra food, but it just doesn’t seem to be a priority. Some live in apartments, some are in college, some are newly married, some have young children, and some have new homes with high mortgage payments.
  • Millions of Americans are losing their jobs because of the economic situation our Nation is experiencing. Some people still have jobs, yet can’t even afford food to feed their family. Three million people in the United States are unemployed and will go from the workforce to the welfare lines this year. This can happen quickly to anyone.
  • Millions of Americans are losing their homes as a result of mortgages being overinflated. Making mortgage payments will soon be the last thing on the minds of Americans. The No. 1 thing on people’s minds will be where they are going to get their next meal. We are in the midst of an economic crisis that is devaluing the American dollar and could turn hyperinflation into monetary collapse.

The National Inflation Association predicts that by the year 2015, the U.S. dollar will lose all of its purchasing power and empty grocery store shelves will be common in America. For every economic problem the U.S. government tries to solve, it always creates two or three much larger problems in the process.

Families will need to help each other. Multiple generations of families might need to live together. Young adults might need to move back home with their parents to avoid being homeless. Every parent should store for himself first and then for his extended family members that might need help. Then, store extra for their friends and neighbors in need. This will take sacrifice and focus. A food savings account builds over time, just like savings in a bank account does.

Long-Term Food Reserves

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  • New products that were announced at the national convention: instant stick packs of Kona Coffee, Orange Passion Green Tea and Tropical Energy Drink. The new entrees are Thai Coconut Noodles, Santé Fe Fiesta Rice and Creamy Tuscan Pasta with Sundried Tomatoes.
  • The other entrées that are available are 3 Cheese Alfredo Pasta and Cheese, Au Gratin Potatoes, Beef Stroganoff, Chicken Cheddar Rice, Hearty Chili with Cornbread Dumplings, Seasoned Mashed potatoes, Vegetable Beef Stew, and Wisconsin White Cheddar with Pasta Shells.
  • There are breads such as Pancake Mix, Southern Buttermilk Biscuits, Whole Wheat Bread, and Cornbread Muffins.
  • The breakfast items include Almond granola and Natural Oatmeal.
  • The soups include Cheddar Broccoli, Chicken Noodle, Potato Cheddar, Southwestern Tortilla, Sweet Corn Chowder and Western Potato Chowder.
  • There is a snack called dried Tropical Fruit Mix.
  • They have a variety of other items like non-hybrid Garden Seeds, The Berkey Light Water Filter and the Katadyn Hiker Pro Water Filter.
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I suggest that you take a portion of your monthly food budget and purchase a stock of food for yourself. You can use Go Foods every day for meals or store them for an emergency.

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Peggy Layton

a home economist and licensed nutritionist, holds a B.S. in Home Economics Education with a minor in Food Science and Nutrition from Brigham Young University. Peggy lives in Manti, Utah with her husband Scott. Together they have raised seven children. Peggy owns and operates two businesses: One called "The Therapy Center", where she is a licensed massage therapist and hypnotherapist, and the other an online cookbook and preparedness products business. She is nationally known for publishing a series of seven books on the subject of food storage and also lectures and teaches seminars about preparedness and using food storage products. Peggy practices what she preaches, has no debt, grows a huge garden, lives off the land, raises chickens, bottles and dehydrates food and has time left over to operate her businesses. To check out Peggy's cookbooks and self sufficiency products go to her website To get a free sample of three different storable meals that have a 15-year shelf life go here.

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  • RivahMitch

    Generally a good article. Personally however, I disagree that “All guns and ammo must be kept locked up as well in a gun safe or a locked room.” I’m a firm believer that you must always have a gun for self/home defense accessible within 5 seconds. If you don’t keep it readily available, you might as well not have it.

    • Dave Bucher

      I agree with you on keeping a gun at arms length. I keep one right beside me at night ,there is one off to my left as i type now,and i have a concealed carry permit,and make use of it. Can never be to cautious. I even watch videos on safe handling and shooting.

      • Michael

        In addition to watching videos, etc, I strongly recommend you practice defensive routines and marksmanship at least twice a week. Nothing beats live fire with a bit of simulated stress, if possible.

        • 45caliber


          I agree with you. I have several .22 guns, rifle and pistol. They are cheap to shoot and give you the same abilities in practice as a heavier weapon without the cost. I shoot with the heavier gun a couple of times a year to keep accustomed to them. Besides, a .22 can be used for hunting or defense too. A box of 500 .22 bullets is about $13 while a box of 20 rifle cartidges or a box of 50 heavier pistol bullets may be $15 to $20.

          • Mike

            I need to get some “heat” before it’s too late. What do you recommend in the way of hand guns? Also,an assault rifle, should I have one and
            some suggestions about them? Finnally, your thoughts on tasers. Your right about the .22 & keeping your firearms ready & cocked.

          • FreedomFighter

            I like the Ruger 10/22 with a couple of extras on it, excellent action, light and has more after market upgrades – like 50 round clips – than any other on the market.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • Cliffystones


            I recently discovered that you can buy airsoft guns with the same look and feel as the real ones. I’m looking at getting a Glock 19 replica. Many of these even have full blowback so they simulate shooting the real thing. In my research I’ve found that you can get a descent one (Glock) for under $100, and I havent seen many handguns over the $200 mark. The ammo is dirt cheap, and you can set up a range in your basement or garage.

          • Cliffystones


            .38 revolver, or better yet one that shoots .357 magnum or .38. For pistols, stick with calibers that are common and inexpensive (9mm is everywhere).

            As mentioned, the Ruger 10/22 can’t be beat. I’ve heard that the Mini 14 wasn’t a very accurate gun (not trying to pick a fight here, just sayin’) I love my Yugoslavian SKS, you can find them online for around $300, and 7.62×39 ammo is plentiful. Another common “assault” type rifle is the AR-15, which uses .223 ammo (very common).

          • 45caliber

            I prefer the .22 for pistol and rifle for target shooting and light hunting. Ruger had both at a good price. I like a .22 on a .25 frame as a pocket gun since it is easy to hide. While a .22 won’t drop a person as easily as a heavier bullet, you have six at least.

            However, I personally prefer a .45 1911 model semiauto pistol for real use against humans and a .30 caliber rifle. The .223 caliber (most AR-15 models) is really only a .22 bullet with more powder. It really isn’t meant to kill, it is meant to wound. It moves so fast that it will glance from anything. The .30 is more definate and doesn’t glance away.

            However if all you want is a house gun, my preference is a 12 ga. Model 870 Remington shotgun. You can get barrels and other accesories to make it good for defense of a house or for hunting. And there is nothing like the sound of a shell being jacked into the gun to cause even the most crazed man to think twice.

          • Marten

            A love the 30-06 with full metal jacket….

      • Old Henry

        I have heard about some sort of a finger print trigger lock that allows alomst instant usability of the weapon.

        I have also heard of thumb print gun safes that allow you quick access to a gun, but you still loose time getting to the safe.

        • 45caliber

          Old Henry:

          As far as I know the trigger lock finger print scanner isn’t viable yet. If it was, you can bet the government would be requiring it. It is still in the development stage. If it is out, someone please tell me where since I’ve never seen one. However, I don’t want one. I buy my guns for family to use too. I’m not always around.

          The fingerprint safe is around but I also have one on my computer. It always acts up at the wrong times. And, as you said, it takes time to get to it. Any child who can pick up a gun can be taught to leave it alone and why, despite what the libs want you to believe. My kids were trained when they were 18 months old that guns were dangerous. But they were also trained on how to use them by the time they were five years old (still with safety in mind). And if someone was stupid enough to come into our house and attack their mommy, they would have had a surprise from my kids.

    • KJQ

      I’m assuming she means they should be locked up when you’re not home so that they can’t be easily stolen.

    • wandamurline

      Get a permit to carry and have on in your pocket or purse at all times. This country has gone insane and even though my neighbor has a gun, so do I. Lock and load and keep safe.

      • Forrest Horn

        I agree wholeheartedly. I have two handguns and a rifle, and am soon to buy my wife a shotgun. They will all be easily accessible.

      • Old Henry

        Why should we have to get a permit to carry, or own?

        What part of “Shall not be infringed” do they not understand?

        It’s no dirt-bag politician’s business who owns guns, how many, or what kind.

        • Kim Everhart

          OldHenry.. I am a Life Member of NRA since 78, & believe fully in the 2nd. However, if I have a neighbor who is absolutely severely mentally unstable , psychopath, I cant see him having access to a firearm as a good thing.

        • http://personalliberty larry kemp

          the reason for the permit is to show that you know how to safely handle a gun and to know all the laws pertaining to ccw and all the safety rules.

    • Mary

      You are 100% right. I have my CZ in my hand as soon as my dog bark.

    • socaldano

      For food, simply buy more of what you already use in terms of canned food and longer term foods like crackers and such. For 90% of what we will encounter, surviving 30 days will put in as a survivor. So 40 days worth of food and don’t forget you will have to share a little bit. You will have to train your wife who likes to cook for an army how to cook JUST ENOUGH for your family…or you run out.
      It is important to have your guns and ammo in different places, especially when the SHTF, remember during Katrina where the cops were disarming the citizens.
      For basic home defense is the Remington 870 “defender” 8 shot short barrel. Or the Moss-burg 500 series defender 8 shot short barrel. Cheap ammo for practice (bird-shot) get OO buck for home defense and slugs for major penetration. And buy the larger quantities as 20 shells last one minor fight.
      Easy to use and reliable…the ratchet sound sends sane men running. coupled with a 9mm handgun, yes a .45 has stopping power but will you spend the money shooting it? and you are more likely to be able to scrounge 9mm ammo.
      .22 rifle is great backup, and a .22LR on a .25 frame is a great pocket rocket for CCW,
      So if you put a handgun and a long gun stashed in different locations, along with the appropriate ammo food and clothing, then they won’t get all your guns and food….only some of it..

  • Sirian

    Everyone should take this very seriously for it will be upon us without very little notice. People laugh when it is brought up in concerned conversation but once it occurs there will be hundreds of thousands that will be on a survival rampage seeking out food, guns, water, clothing and money while who knows how many people will be killed in a very short amount of time. Remember, once it starts there will be no limits they will stay within to get what they need or want. Everyone may think times are tuff now, stand back folks, we haven’t seen anything yet!!

    • Old Henry

      Not that it would do much good, but how about a sign that states:
      There is nothing inside worth DIEING for.

  • Dan

    Great article and I have only two pieces of advice I would add. One is verbal security. Don’t advertise your food storage to anyone. That includes outside family members and friends. This must be impressed upon your family members. The old saying “lose lips sink ships” comes to mind.

    Secondly is if there is a relief effort and you are into the 2nd or 3rd week that this is occurring in your area then you should show up to “get your share” whether you need it or not. Your neighbors and friends will notice if you do not and then assume you don’t need it and since you don’t need it you must have lots of stuff hoarded. You can always leave the items handed to you during the relief effort to those who are needy but do it so you are not identified.

    One other idea is if the shortage is long term then you have to fit in. LOSE weight (Lord knows this is true in my case). It’s a dead giveaway if your the only fat person around when everyone else is getting skinny.

    • Old Henry

      Good common sense advice Dan. Thank you.

      Even with a personal food bank you would probably loose some weight as you would cut back on consumption to increase the longevity of your stores.

      Here is another thought, if you have a basement install glass block windows in place of the regular windows that can be easily seen thru and easily broken out. Glass block windows would give you security, privacy, increase the light in your basement as there is no frame and the glass blocks difuse the sunlight and much better weatherised windows – air tight / water tight.

  • LTCB

    What some fail to realize is, those of us who stock thing also stock the means to protect those things.

    • Old Henry

      A medium to large sized dog would also be a good “device” to have in the house. They hear things long before we do and unless the perpetrator is armed they would think twice about a forced entry.

      • independant thinker

        I have a Pyranese(sp) Golden Retreiver cross that doesn’t miss anything. She barks at the slightest noise even when it comes from the front of the house. I have another dog a ? that is about the same size as her (both weigh over 100 lbs in winter) that also doesn’t miss much but makes very little noise so even if someone neutralized the barker the quiet one is still there to get them. Its a good thing I live in the country. I am thinking about getting a couple of donkeys as well. They also miss very little if anything and can be used as pack animals if necessary.

        • Old Henry


          That’s great! One of my siisters had 2 collies back in the 60s that used to ambuse cats. One would lay next to the fence and the other one would be out in the yard. The cats would strut along the top of the fence taunting the dog in the yard and the one laying down at the base of the fence would jump up and snach the cat and kill it. They would both then have a meal.

          Let’s do that to the democraps!

          • independant thinker

            Cannot approve of the collies. My inside the house defence is an ankle biter who will almost burst your eardrums his bark is so high pitched and some tom cats that are rather large and would go up side an intruders head. In fact I am petting the largest one now. He can jump at least 6 feet straight up when he wants to and weighs over 20 pounds.

          • Kim Everhart

            I have a collie crossed with a maincoon cat that weighs 430# & can jump straight up 14 feet

  • William Conrad

    Great article which I enjoyed. But if the premice is that people have said that they will come with their gun to get food at your house, how will a locked pantry help you? Do you have any ideas about where to securly store the type of food you are promoting? An example idea might be a root cellar with a rear panel that opens into an additional hidden storage area. Does anyone make hide away security storage walkin chests suitable for keeping dried preserved foods?

    • Old Henry

      I read a suggestion (probably here in one of Peggy’s articles) about burying a chest-type freezer or burying an old refrigerator face up. You simply cover it with a little dirt or whatever the surrounding area consits of and you should be good to go – until you forget exactly where you buried it…

      • independant thinker

        I saw that in a book on root cellars I got from Mother Earth News. They had some other suggestions for both concealed (or ones that could be concealed) and more traditional root cellars.

  • DavidO

    The article itself was good and had some good information in it. I’m with you RivahMitch, except I keep one of my Glock pistols and a minimum of 1 spare magazine concealed on my person during 90% of my waking hours and always when going outside for any reason. If it isn’t on me it’s on my night stand with a tactical light attached. In my opinion, 5 seconds is too long, if you need it you’ll need it in an instant.

    Sirian, I pray it doesn’t get that bad, but am doing my best to prepare for it if it does. I believe that one of the main differences between now and the Great Depression during the 1930′s & early 40′s is that there has been such a decline of morals and respect for the property (or even lives) of others since then.

    Dan you make excellent points as well, if there is a relief effort under way and “they” are handing out some sort of food and water to people in your area by all means you should be in line to get “your share”. You would indeed stick out like a sore thumb if you were the only one in a neighborhood who wasn’t in line and that would be a bad thing. If you were the only healthy looking much less fat person in the area you might as well paint a bulls eye on your back.

    What Mrs. Layton did not recommend is where those of us who reside in mobile homes should store our LTS food. On one hand, it’s a single wide, so doesn’t hold a great deal in the first place and we haven’t been broken into YET in the 10 years we’ve lived where we do now.

    All 3 of my neighbors are related to each other and we get along with them all. We know each others’ vehicles, friends and family members vehicles who regularly spend time at our homes as well as know them by face if not by name. I’ve had a small vegetable garden for the last 3 years and my neighbors had a one this year for the first time and canned a good bit.

    Storage, particularly secure storage is a huge issue to me. I keep some food at my work place, but again space is limited and even though it’s kept in a locked office I’m not the only person with a key and know from experience that it is possible to break into the office by use of an old credit card or state I.D. card. At least getting into the building itself isn’t anywhere nearly as easy.

    • Old Henry


      All the mobil homes I am familiar with have skirting around the bottom and some have cinder blocks as a “foundation”.

      If your trailer is like this you might be able to cut an acess hole under a bed and keep dried foods under the trailer in air tight buckets with moisture / oxygen absorbent packets in the buckets.

      Do you and your neighbors own the land? If so you might consider putting up sorage barns with concrete floors.

  • Jim

    There are a lot of people like me out there who are either ex law enforcement or ex military who have seen the just how low people can sink to and would have more problem shooting an animal than a person.The people that know them,probably know this too.The thing that people need to always remember is if you can’t protect yourself,you can’t protect your family.

    • firefight

      Well stated Jim,
      My brother is a retired deputy in Arizona. One who I am very proud of. He and I have been discussing the subject of storing up food which I have already started doing. He is more than capable of taking care of himself and his family but he needs to get them on the same page about being prepared. Evidently, they don’t see the need or they don’t think anything is going to happen. I told him that being prepared is not being paranoid as some people might suggest, it is being smart. Always better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Something else I might add…………have plenty of ammunition and multiple firearms in strategic locations within your castle.

    • 45caliber


      I agree. People need to be able to kill if necessary to protect what they have. Too many people make a thing of human life being special – it isn’t. The crimnals know this. When I was a prison guard, the biggest problem they had was convincing many of the new guards that it was fine to shoot any escaping criminal. There is only one ex-prisoner who escaped in Texas and hasn’t been recaptured within a short time. Two guards allowed him to escape because they felt it wrong to shoot a human. As you said, I’d rather shoot some humans before I’d shoot an animal. They are worse than the animal. Humans are the only creatures that deliberately choose to be evil.

  • firefight

    Dan, The advice you give is critical to remaining undetected among the victims of any crisis. One thing you must point out also is to never, never leave your home unprotected. Never go to the distribution points with all family members at the same time. Always have someone at the “fort” to guard it. Looters will be watching houses to see when people leave and to pattern their movements. If you are a couple with all the kids grown and on their own, you and your wife will have to make this work. She will need to be as proficient with the arms as you are and must keep an eye on everything going on. If you send her to get the rations, she must be well armed and ready for an attacker as she leaves the food rationing locations. We must think of everything and be prepared for whatever comes our way. In hard times, people will do the unthinkable. Normal everyday citizens, when pushed into the corner, will fight for survival……..theirs, not yours. Remember that.

    • Dan

      My wife is a better shot with her 20 gauge than I am with my 12 gauge.
      She is also meaner…lolol

      • 45caliber

        Most shotgun shells available are light loads for birds. Ever heard of “ringing” a shotgun shell?

        It was a way, when I was a kid, to use light loads for deer, etc. You would cut the shotgun shell in a ring almost through the paper/plastic cartridge where the powder and shot met. When fired, it would blast off the end of the shell, keeping the shot inside, so it hit the target as a solid slug. It is good only for short ranges but it is effective.

        Just a suggestion.

        • Old Henry

          Sh*t 45, the stuff I learn here never ceases to amaze me…
          Brilliant, but simple idea.

          I used to work with a retired AF guy who said that women make good desert fighters. They retain water and get mean as hell every 28 days. (Makes sense to me…)

          • 45caliber

            Old Henry:

            I learned to shoot a pistol from an old western gunfighter. He taught us to point shoot rather than use the sights since people seldom use sights in a gun fight. And he told us to never mess with a hysterical woman. She instinctively point shot and was the most accurate shot in the world when she was scared. We never could get him to admit that this was personal experience or not …

          • Old Henry



      • firefight

        Keep her that way.

      • Old Henry


        How is she with a pistola? A shot gun is a little obvious (and cumbersome) when entering / leaving an emergency food D/C.

  • edwin w gates

    Job well done

  • Big Red

    Excellent posts all. I have bought two of the efoodsglobal, now Gofoodsglobal, boxes for my two kids. They don’t take my concerns to seriously but I keep hammering it into them. I have also tried the 3 free meals they will send you upon your request. Excellent. I especially like the long shelf life of this product. Stocking up on food and especially water you need to do. I also have a gunsmith friend who supplies most of my ammo. If you don’t have this luxury start hitting the gun stores. You have to be a complete idiot not to see what these commies are doing to this great land.

    • Old Henry

      Big Red:

      Maybe your kids will “go along” with you just to humor the old man… Sometimes I think that is what my family does.

      You are a fortunate person to have a gunsmith friend.

  • John Vossler

    I remember the quote from a FEMA representative back in 1999 (pre-Y2K) when asked what personal preparations they made, the person responded “I have 1 years supply of food and enough ammunition to protect it.”

    Seems like a prudent person to me.


      This is what I have done. Food & ammo. I don’t count my ammo I weigh it.
      I have apprx 150 pounds of ammo for 20 firearms. [still adding to my collection, too.
      I live in the country which makes it easy to “see ‘em comin”.

  • dan

    They still would have got the safe. Better to hide it in the floor and don’t tell anyone. The perps came because someone said something. My tenant saw the floor safe I had, and he could not wait to tell every one on the street that would listen that I had it. Good fun! Proves how important he is.

    I told him when they came he better be able to open it or suffer violence from the robbers. That helped him think a little.

    The safe is now empty and open.

  • 45caliber

    Lock up the guns? Not hardly! A gun that is unloaded and stored in a locked system is useless. You need at least one out and loaded. You don’t have time to go unlock it and load it.

    I can just hear some lib telling a looter, “Wait just a moment. I have to go get my gun out of the safe and put bullets in it. Then we can talk.”

    As far as what the welfare families will do if the government has to shut off their money? They will do what they always do in any troubled situation – riot. You will see all of them out looting. Again, that gun will be all that stands between you and injury or death.

    When (not “if”) they riot, you will need to defend yourself. And you will need some organization with your neighbors. They won’t challenge you (at least at first) if you show that you are armed and have some organization.

    The real problem with food is that you must replace it as it is used. And that includes AFTER the disaster occurs. So plan to grow food somewhere and plan on how you will store it. You will need stored food to last until you can replace it.

    • Old Henry

      I kind of smiled as I read that part of Peggy’s article 45. I knew it would set off a good “discussion”. Maybe she did that one “on purpose” just to stir the pot. Sort of like tossing a pound of hamburger at a hungry dog. LOL!

  • always right

    “What would happen if the welfare system shut down due to lack of funds? What would government-assisted families do?” ANSWER: They’d have to steal gas for their new Escalades, BMW’s, Chrysler 300′s, and BIG SUV’s (all with the “Handicapped” placards, of course). Here in Ca. the average family of 4 on welfare, with one person working earning $8 per hour, has 25% more disposable income than a family working and earning $63K a year.
    and that doesn’t include the ones making a little bit more:

  • FreedomFighter

    “The Berkey Light Water Filter and the Katadyn Hiker Pro Water Filter.”

    I consider these to be the 2 most important items to have, excellent products – must haves – nothing is more important that clean water. If you have the money, get a solar powered condensor for water, its portable, self powered, needs only air to produce water thru condensation action.

    I have your books Peggy and thank you for your efforts, I give your books 5 stars out of 5.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Mike

    One of the best articles I have ever read here. Great suggestions, by all of the contributors. May you survive and prosper!
    Besides food, guns & ammo, make sure you have the other basic neccesities of life. No need to go into detail with plenty of information available on this aspect in books and on the internet.
    Keep in mind, when everything collapses, cell phones may become totally useless. An amateur radio license is now easy to get because the Morse Code requirement has been dropped. Get one and encourage others to do so. Hand held and portable transceivers are relatively inexpensive and most are of high quality. It could save your life someday.
    Prepper and survivalist groups are popping up all over the country. You may want to join one but use caution.
    Most importantly, keep yourself informed. Many excellent websites covering these very topics, especially this one. Many thanks Bob & Company!

  • Rennie

    Think about building storage cabinets with false bottoms or backs where you can stack a row of canned guns (or ammo, etc.), even wall, ceiling or floor cavities, you can get fancy and use hinges or rollers like a drawer to slide them in and out. It was common practice years ago in seasonal camps to build a “tin closet”, lined to keep bugs and varmints out of bedding, clothing, dry goods, etc. The logical place for someone that broke into your house for food to look would be the kitchen, then maybe the cellar or adjacent rooms to the kitchen/dining room. Keep a reserve elsewhere, even if it’s overhead in the garage. In real desperate or limited storage situations, consider backyard burial, if you know how much firewood you will use by a certain point of the winter, hide it under there.

    • Old Henry

      Great suggestions Rennie. Thank you.

  • Bob Howertom

    If you buy a weapon, make sure that it works. A friend gave me a .45 cal automatic, as he departed from Chu Lie, Vietnam. I straped it on and later went into the village that night. I checked out my trusty .45 and found that it was jammed. I never felt so foolish in my life and it was a lesson I have never forgotten. A weapon should aways be operatinal.

    • 45caliber

      You are right. Some of the guns in pawn shops, etc. are damaged too. Most places will give you a couple of days to try it out and return it if it doesn’t work. Make sure before you buy that it can be returned.

      One real problem I’ve seen on shotguns is damage to the face of the chamber. I have one that has problem ejecting; I’ve seen another at a shop that was broken. Keep that in mind.

  • Mark M

    heard these stories long time ago before.
    45, 38, have heard, one woman, the other woman, lock-up
    Is it real an article or gossip?
    What and/or who supports it?
    This piece of journalizm is realy unique where no word said has any logical explaination or support. I must congratulate an author for this guilable anekdot LOL!

    • 45caliber

      Mark M:

      “45, 38, have heard, one woman, the other woman, lock-up”

      I’m afraid I don’t understand your point here. Would you care to explain?

      • Old Henry

        Thanks 45. I thought I was loosing it as I read it twice and could not make heads nor tails out of it.

      • independant thinker

        “This piece of journalizm is realy unique where no word said has any logical explaination or support.”

        45 I think the quote pretty much applies to his whole post.

  • 45caliber

    Just a note:

    A 9 mm is actually a .38 short. A .380 is a 9 mm short. The less powder you have, the less power the bullet has. I have a 9mm but I don’t really like it (it is my wife’s). I don’t care for a .380 at all. But that is personal choice. I’d rather have a .22. At least the bullets are cheaper!

    • Earl

      For defensive purposes-get some +p grade ammo for your 9mm. It has higher firepower than regular cartridges and will do the job. also, Get hollow-points. they’re more effective at stopping attacks. I personally favor .45 ACP in a 1911 or a compact Glock such as the 21. Shotguns-look for the Mossberg 500 3-in-1 which has a regular vent rib hunting barrel with 2 chokes and a short 18 1/2 barrel for home defense. I keep slugs in mine. The Mossberg is a Mil-spec gun and are very dependable and cheap. A good hunting rifle for deer and so on is the Winchester model 94 lever action in 30-30 (the gun that won the west)..

      One last thing, All the ammo and such will become short supply, so I suggest learning to reload your own ammo. A press can be gotten pretty reasonably these days (Lee) and Bullets, powder and primers are still cheap (primers-1000 for 35.00 or so powder 70bucks for 4 Lbs. Bullets vary but get ‘em in 500 lots and they are reasonable.
      Price per round is way below what they cost in the store!! Safety first and you won’t blow anything up! Good luck…

      PS-Glocks don’t like LEAD bullets; use jacketed ones.

  • Old Henry

    Well Peggy, I hope you haven’t converted the kids old bedrooms into storage units. YOu may be having some guests in the near future.

    As I recal from past articles you and your husband live in a very remote area.(?) That should make it somewhat easier to defend. Have you thought about digging a trench around the perimeter, filling it with pungy sitcks and covering it with sticks and leaves?

  • stewart mitchell

    What if the food ends up as the weapon. or even the water. Better have holly grail on hand.

  • stewart mitchell

    Nostradamus is predicting a global famine

  • Fox

    Make sure your soul is in good order first. Yahweh does not call the equipped; He equips the called.

  • C Colin

    Keep in mind water, clean drinkable water. There are many ways to keep water. Bleach is acceptable, hydrogine peroxide. Label with date refresh by 6 months. have a strategy, you will need to leave densely populated areas if you are going to survive. Believe all that the prophets have said. Get your life in order, treat all people with respect and learn to live peaceably.

  • BravoBilly

    As I browse through the various comments of people stashing away, here I am 67 year old Veteran who was happy someone invited him out last night to eat that fed the Veterans for free as I was not sure what I could fix for dinner as my freezer was bare, my cupboard almost bare with just a donation of food from the local church. I read on how to make food reserves, yet I am barely able to make it from month to month, day to day, week to week, living on Social Security only. The Snowbirds have returned to Florida and so have the thieves of their bicycles. We are not bothered during the summer. I suspect that as the economy gets worse, more and more people will head to where there is warm weather and find out there are no jobs here…All I can do is start trying to collect plastic gallons bottle to fill up for water in case of emergency. And get some more food from the Various Food banks…to build up a small cupboard full until my Food Stamps come in again.

    You people sound like you have some real problems…Me, I just live one day at a time like the birds trust my Father in Heaven to feed me.


      “The Lord helps those that help themselves”


        The Lord may feed the birds but he doesn’t throw the worms into the nest.

  • simian pete

    Doesn’t look good. I’m in an apartment near a city. I figure if the food rioting ever starts they will probably take all my food. So I stockpile on the cheap $$$

    I just buy some more canned goods and staples when they are on sale.

    I also invested in some survival info from Kurt Saxon’s website -

    He sells some really good practical books on survivalism ….. The man is a genius.

    I figure that if i keep saving money$ and live cheaply – using some of the suggestions in his book, I’ll have enough money to move to a small town – get a small 5 acre piece of land and put used trailer on it…

  • Victory1

    This is the way we live now, get as close to this as you can:

    Be debit free.
    Go to church. Believe in YOUR God.
    Live near like-minded people where God still plays a role in real life and be ready to protect each other.
    Align with people to share skills and labor. Better than money!!
    Know who your friends are. Keep your friends close, your enemies closer, your gun closest.
    Raise your own food. Know how to process it. Pressure canning preferred.
    I have a 1979 3/4 ton pickup. We also have bicycles, plus two motorcycles that get over 45 mpg.
    Have good chainsaw. Know how to use and repair it.
    Have wood heat backup.
    Have a solar/wind-up radio. Have extra light bulbs, batteries, bee’s wax candles and a way to make more.
    Use non-hybrid garden seeds only. Save harvested seeds for next year and for bartering.
    Have some guns and ammo HIDDEN. Know how to use and repair. Have supplies needed for reloading.
    Have a good security system. (Make it public, even if you DON’T have a Security system).
    (A good dog & a good gun is your BEST security system, let your feelings be known publicly).
    Have 1 year of survival food at 1 good meal per day per person. 25-year shelf life.
    Have medicine and First-Aid knowledge (books) plus medical supplies. Do NOT rely on the Internet.
    Have the basic trade books. Carpentry, plumbing, electrical, tooling etc.
    Have a lath, mill, welder and variety of hand tools if possible.
    Collect & save assorted metal stock.
    Learn engine repair, also any other skills that will benefit.
    Have a good 6000 watt gas generator. Will take care of water pump, freezer etc. (The essentials).
    Have 100 gallons + of gas with additives for longevity
    Have copies of important documents in a safe place. (Sealed container in the ground, PVC is good).
    Buy quality when possible.
    Sharpen your outdoor survival skills.
    Get skillful at bartering, worth more than money.
    Have 6-month cash on hand. Use money as last resort, if that will be worth anything!!
    Value all you learn by what you can earn.
    Produce a product or service that no one can cancel.
    Value what is important, shed all others.
    Conserve, preserve, reclaim and restore.
    Be willing to protect your own!!

    My daughter is a doctor in San Diego. When it all goes south and IF she can get home she will be bringing emergency meds home by the bag full. She has also been sending emergency med products home from time to time. I have also been getting meds from Canada that she has perscribed.
    I am a retired Toolmaker and have all the tools to make about anything and can, which will help us if/when our economy goes in the crapper. Except for my wife, who is still working, we pretty much live like this. We also raise two beef critter each year. We eat one and sell the other, plus venison)!!
    As for guns, I have a 9MM Auto and a Colt 357 Mag/.38 Special for hand cannons. I also have a .270 and a 22.250 Rifle both zeroed at 300 yds. I handload for all my guns except for my .22 rifle and some shells for my 12 ga pump shotgun. It eats #4 shot, buckshot and slugs of my own design. I have est. 1000 rounds for the .22 and about 500 rounds for the shotgun. I have made 9 black powder flintlock guns (not Kits) and have about 15 lbs of powder and 100 plus lbs of lead. I also have many different die sets for other calibers for barter value.
    I also have a good Security System and a mean-ass dog. Couple that with my guns and my Viet Nam background, I wouldn’t want to break in to MY house. (people around here know that)!! If anyone ever wants any advice feel free to ask.

    Cam Stapel
    Tea party Patriot.

    • Old Henry


      Sounds like you’re as “set” as you can be. Best of luck!


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