Comments Subscribe to Personal Liberty News Feed Subscribe to Personal Liberty
 

Justice Department Wants To Prosecute Internet Fibbers

November 16, 2011 by  

Justice Department Wants To Prosecute Internet Fibbers

The Justice Department wants to solidify Internet regulations on citizens in the United States that criminalize such things as lying on Internet dating websites and uploading videos to YouTube that violate the company’s “terms of service” agreement.

In a statement that was obtained by CNET, the Justice Department outlines the importance of its being able to prosecute violations to a website’s “terms of service” agreement through the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA). The Department reportedly wants to treat “terms of service” agreements much like contracts that are made between businesses, employees and individuals outside the Web world.

Opponents of the law like the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) have called the regulations draconian and say that making people felons for failing to adhere to website rules is ridiculous.

In a letter sent to the Senate by the ACLU, Americans for Tax Reform, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and FreedomWorks, opponents argue against the law: “If a person assumes a fictitious identity at a party, there is no federal crime. Yet if they assume that same identity on a social network that prohibits pseudonyms, there may again be a CFAA violation. This is a gross misuse of the law.”

Proponents say that keeping and strengthening CFAA is vital to the Justice Department’s ability to prosecute identity theft, misuse of government databases and privacy invasions.

According to CNET, thousands of people violate “terms of service” agreements daily.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

Facebook Conversations

Join the Discussion:
View Comments to “Justice Department Wants To Prosecute Internet Fibbers”

Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don't stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

Is there news related to personal liberty happening in your area? Contact us at newstips@personalliberty.com

  • David in MA

    Well, about damn time,
    finally something more important
    for the justice department to work
    at than illegal immigration & gun running!

    • David in MA

      FEDERAL GUN RUNNING!!!

    • former walmart person

      Your ignorance is appalling. Have fun getting in line for just another “work march” from the concentration camps we may find ourselves in (for our own safety of course after a staged bioterrorism incident). These laws will chill free speach on the web and may eventually leave us in the dark about the evil and corruption in our government.

      • Texas

        Amen.

      • vicki

        @former walmart person

        David in MA was being sarcastic.

    • dan

      perhaps they should turn their attention to identity theft and
      fraud…they can start at the POTUS / liar in chief

      • jim

        Ole barry and his COMMUNIST CRONIES have to do this so they can PROSECUTE anybody who says anything about ole barry and his henchmen, when they get the multi millions of sq ft buildings built in the desert to monitor ALL of our internet communication!!! IMPEACH NOW!!!!!!!!!

      • Bob from SoCal

        There isn’t a prison big enough to house all of the liars in Washington D.C..

    • wandamurline

      If they want to file charges and put people in jail for lying, we could start with Holder who blantantly has lied to Congress on his knowledge of Fast and Furious. Let’s start with him and put his @ss in jail.

      • Ray

        Dont forget about obummer, dodd, frank, pelosi, reid and a cast of literally tens of thousands in the District of Corruption.

        • joe1cr

          Right on Ray!!! EQUAL LEGAL JUSTICE
          Equal and exact justice to all men, of whatever state or persuasion, religious or political . . . [is the goal]
          President Thomas Jefferson (First Inaugural Address) (Note: “Justice” here means legal justice.)
          The justice dept. and the courts have turn a blind eye to the crooks who walk the hall’s of congress and have give them a free pass to rob and gut America. Political corruption is the use of legislated powers by government officials for illegitimate private gain. Forms of corruption vary, but include bribery, extortion, cronyism, nepotism, patronage, graft, and embezzlement. It’s time to drain the swamp !!!

    • Martha

      They’re real busy these days trying to make felons out of computer users and costing the nation more money that they don’t have by condemning cribs that have be in use for centuries now. They have given no reason for this action except that ‘drop side cribs are unsafe’. Strange, I’ve known hundreds of babies that have gone from birth to 4 – 5 years of age in them and all are now healthy, injury free teens/adults. My own 4 are now 46, 51, 52, and 53 and never fell out of their crib; had the side drop on them in any way; and 3 of the cribs had been used by 5 previous babies/youngsters. The government CANNOT keep their nose out of our business. They have burned the Constitution I do believe because they sure as heck are not following its instructions as to what the government is supposed to do, and that it is supposed to be a LIMITED government.

  • Julius Spencer

    I REFUSE to change how I surf or comment on the internet! Civil disobedience is my right.

  • Lastmanstanding

    Just another diversion for the sheeple to worry about their narcissistic daily lives.

  • Monte

    This could be a return of the alien and sedition laws of old. But, hey, the American people are so ignorant and uneducated they wouldn’t know it. Where is a Thomas Jefferson when we need him? The leftists, liberals, communists, socialists and neocons (how many names are there for the same evil trash?) have destroyed any concept of liberty or virtue. I mean, freedom is the ability to decide what TV station I want to watch, isn’t it?

  • Matt

    does holder REALLY want to prosecute people who lie….would love to see the video of him handcuffing hisself.i am daily amazed that this whole administration does not burst into flames of the lies the spew from their mouths

    • JUKEBOX

      Lying about Class A Federal felonies takes a backseat to those lies on the Internet. According to Democrat ideologies, Murder, Graft,Gun running, Drug smuggling, etc. are simple misdemeanors.

    • CJM

      Matt: Like the insider trading rule, Holder and his cronies have made it legal for THEM to lie, but everyone else must tell the truth or go to prison. By putting all law=abiding citizens in prison, they have the entire country to soil with their ‘leavings’. The current administration is worse than a pack of dogs–even a dog wouldn’t soil its own nest!

  • former walmart person

    LOL, I would love for any of this to ever see a jury trial. I know our juries are equivalent to a viscious mob on the street looking to hang the nearest person, but the most dim witted, punishing jury will see right through this.

    Bring it on.

    I wonder if members of CON-gress or the SIN-et will be held to these standards of internet truth telling. Every single one of their official websites is wrought with lies and deception. Oh, wait, my bad, they are walking Gods among us who are authorized to engage in insider trading.

    • LYGHTITUP

      The problem here is, it would be a federal offense, and you wouldn’t be judged by a jury of your peers.

    • JUKEBOX

      They will exempt themselves, Obama, and DOJ.

  • s c

    First, screw the ACLU. Second, Comrade Holder still hasn’t found a way to pour piss out of his boots. Third, whoever thought up the idea of an ‘internet fibber’ should probably get immediate psychological therapy. Fourth, I will never understand how America whipped Hitler and his kookoids in WWII, yet we’re up to our necks in fricking NAZIS.

    • eddie47d

      You say screw the ACLU when they are the ones fighting for greater Internet access and free speech. Hmmm I always suspected something strange about you.

      • Bob from SoCal

        I don’t trust the American Communist Liberal Union either. Their actions of the past speak loud and clear of their anti-american intentions.

        • http://naver samurai

          Even their founder was an admitted communist and atheist, so I guess the aclu is going by their programming. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            “During the 2004 trial regarding allegations of Rush Limbaugh’s drug abuse, the ACLU argued that his privacy should not have been compromised by allowing law enforcement examination of his medical records.”

            They didn’t stick up for the slimy Rush Limbaugh, but they did affirm his right to privacy. That may have kept him out of jail for doctor shopping for drugs.

            That’s from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union#Leadership

            BTW, you gave us no reference on your communist claim. Do you have one samurai?

            Rob

          • meteorlady

            Here’s a good one for you about the internet.. Last week I visited with my doctor. There was a sign in the waiting room about taking a long time with each patient, and they were sorry for the delay but they had a new medical records program.

            Once I got in to see here (she’s a one person office) she was working on a laptop which I have NEVER SEEN HER DO. Seems by 1/2012 they are all supposed to start keeping electronic medical records. The program that she had was purchased for $15,000 by her and she was forced to buy it through the hospital she works out of. They paid six figures for their system – adding to the price of health care immensely.

            Here’s the kicker – she said she is keeping incomplete medical records because she believes it’s a privacy issue and the RECORDS ARE BEING STORED ON THE INTERNET! That makes me really happy that they are out there for anyone to hack into and see. What the hell….

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Bob,

          Check out: http://aclunv.org/blog/aclu_goes_shooting

          It starts out: “… affirmatively support the Second Amendment, all of us at the ACLU of Nevada have respect for responsible gun owners, and we often work with gun rights advocates on issues of common concern.”

          The ACLU isn’t ALL bad. Check with your own state and I’ll bet you will find things you agree with.

          Rob

  • dan

    How about they investigate creating false documentation on the internet….like birth certificate and such ?

    • Monte

      Dan, like the tax cheats in the god-like-One’s administration, they are above the petty rules that govern the great unwashed.

    • big wyo

      you go man

  • Altaica

    Looks like another way big government and big brother wants to get into our lives and make yet another useless, money sucking department. I’ve known about this issue for months now, and I think it is appalling and have already written my representatives and signed petitions against this tripe.

    The very text of this law is very vague, and open to interpretation. It also allows persecution of people posting videos, like, say you are in a park filming and someone is listening to the radio in the background. Well that’s in the background of your video, you are now in violation of the law. Think I’m kidding? They’ve already hauled at least one person into court for copyright infringement because their video picked up background music. The average user is an every day citizen looking to engage in free speech and free expression and can’t afford high end equipment to pick and pull background sounds. This whole law smacks of giving the government and police the ability to censor and terrorize our freedoms. To this whole situation I raise my middle fingers high and say, not without a fight!

    • big wyo

      good post hope you dont mind I plagerize a little.

    • Bob from SoCal

      Once everything is illegal the Feds can persecute whom they choose.

  • CP

    With projects like this underway, I wonder how long it will be before someone figures out a way to legally register and document alternative identities? For sure there are enough people out there already using them, and not all illegal border jumpers, either.

  • chvietvet

    I possess recorded testimony of two U.S. Forest Service employees committing perjury at a hearing before the Merit System Protection Board and a false written statement made under oath by a Department of the Interior employee, which was submitted to the Merit System Protection Board. I have copies of original documents used for hiring by the Department of the Interior and copies of what were supposed to be the same documents after they were altered and submitted to other federal agencies. Perjury and obstruction of justice are felonies. The Merit System Protection Board refused to take any action because the administrative judge stated that his agency is not a criminal court. When the perjured document was presented to the FBI, my charge was dismissed because such crimes committed by federal employees are not of interest to it. Two letters of complaint to Attorney General Holder were never answered. The FBI sent a copy of my complaint to the Inspector General of the Department of the Interior, who said that the Merit System Protection Board would take proper action, even though the administrative judge had said that he lacks jurisdiction to do anything about perjury or obstruction of justice. So we have organized criminals with sovereign immunity interested in prosecuting ordinary citizens for lying on the Internet. Let them do so, but let them start with the federal employees who lie every day for a living. How about throwing the politicians who break their promises after they are elected in prison and throwing away the key!

  • Dave

    This is all just a “smokescreen”, hiding the real agenda …

    What they really want is to be able to easily track and identify exactly who a person is, what they are reading and downloading, as well as what they are uploading. They want to be able to track, track, and spy on everyone, everywhere.

    The use of pseudonyms, as they see it, amounts to using a bunch of “aliases” which amounts to a crime or the “intent” to commit a crime.

    When people use numerous pseudonyms, or different e-mail accounts, or even access the internet through a computer that they do not personally own ( colleges, libraries, friends, etc ) they can’t be sure exactly who is doing what.

    So, in true Big Brother fashion, they started, at first by getting people hooked on things like MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, etc, etc, etc, where everyone blabs about themselves, their friends, and what they are all doing on a frequent basis.

    We get cellphones with GPS tracking, cars with OnStar tracking, laptop computers that use a fingerprint to sign in, etc, all in the name of convenience, safety, friendship, or whatever other ruse to hide the true agenda.

    Even with all of that, they still don’t have a 100% iron-fisted grip on people. So, the next step is an I.D. system for the Internet, just like a Driver’s License, if you will. Falsely identifying yourself to obtain that would be a criminal act. Naturally, breaking the Law gets everyone into the System, too.

    Open your eyes and see today’s world for what it really is and what it is rapidly becoming !

  • daniel

    Remember “Don’t steal, the government hates competition”? The same goes for politicians. This just puts it in writing. If Holder is the judge of truth then we are all in trouble. Does this mean that the first amendment has been abolished?

  • Harvey

    Need to get all of they lying damocrats first! Odumba, Holder, Polize, Reid, and all the queers in CON-gress. It is such an unbelieveable crime that our country is being destroyed from within without any shots being fired! The silent majority. Weds to wake up before it’s too late.

    • JUKEBOX

      Lenin predicted that this would happen nearly a hundred years ago!

  • Monte

    This country was founded on the principle of liberty. Our founding document was created to limit a central government and avoid the tyranny that the colonists had endured under British rule. So how is it that now the same document can be used to subject us to leftist, totalitarian rule? How is it the same document supports the government control of healthcare? We are witnessing the disappearance of liberty and freedom, and are being told that it is all constitutional. But how can this be? Why, in over 200 years, are we only now learning that the Consitution is a soclialist’s document, giving the general government control over everything? And why is the Supreme Court agreeing with this new interpretation?

    • jerry sweet

      the liberal sheeple want it to be destroyed.

  • jerry sweet

    try this on for size.in the news,whitehouse expresses concerns about recent so-called bullet fired into whitehouse.now if they were to get out the survellience cams they might see an fbi,or cia or?? fire that bullet.i dont know,just saying.since they just love all of us having guns and all,again just saying!!

    • meteorlady

      What is hysterically funny about that incident is that the “historical glass” was pierced and broken, but the bullet proof glass stopped the bullet. WTF – why would they put bullet proof glass on the INSIDE of the window instead of the OUTSIDE where they would have protected the “historical glass”? Then they are charging the man with attempted assassination and the President was not even there and the shot was fired from a car a long way off.

  • Rennie

    They want every critic’s name, address, and bank acoount numbers, so when they get their OWS made official into SS they know who to go after and where to find them.

  • http://juanita.shell@att.net Juanita

    The idea of regulating the internet has been brewing for awhile. The real agenda is that the government wants to make money and curb free speech. I believe we the people will not let is happen. Speak up for Free speech don’t let it happen.

    • meteorlady

      You are correct – this is one small step in that direction and it will be sad when they start because we will keep getting more and more and more. Our government is addicted to making regulations, laws and rules that control us more and more.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com gillysrooms

    Your Justice Departments would have to prosecute every computer owner which would make every corporation technically insolvent because EVERY internet user and the staff of EVERY corporation and government departments in EVERY country have been guilty of accepting the Terms & Conditions of all downloads without reading EVERY word and paragrath of the multitude of conditions of the use of downloads without understanding what they are agreeing to because it just takes too long to read the tiny fonts used and most would not understand what is meant even if they read it all. So if your Justice Department wants to get technical it would want to be sure as hell that all the police and justice officials and staff have not committed the same offences they are going to try pinning on everyone else. I’m waiting for the next big case on this very topic. So if the Justice Department and the Judiciary really think they are squeeky clean and wont end up with a muddy scandal…then go right along with your silly plans. Gillysrooms from Australia

  • joe1cr

    Men naturally rebel against the injustice of which they are victims. Thus, when plunder is organized by law for the profit of those who make the law, all the plundered classes try somehow to enter — by peaceful or revolutionary means — into the making of laws. According to their degree of enlightenment, these plundered classes may propose one of two entirely different purposes when they attempt to attain political power: Either they may wish to stop lawful plunder, or they may wish to share in it.
    Frederic Bastiat

    • ChristyK

      Good quote. I love reading Bastiat. Everyone should read his “The Law”. It’s a short book from the mid-1800′s, but not easy reading.

  • Tim
  • GIVEMEFREEDOM

    All of those responding here are getting very sharp and making great arguments. I’m beginning to think We the People might just have a chance to save our nation.
    It’s interesting to note that it’s the issue of a free unfettered internet that is getting our people going.

    • Robert Smith

      GIVEMEFREEDOM says: “I’m beginning to think We the People might just have a chance to save our nation.”

      Not as long as some believe their gawwwwwd is in charge.

      They completely disregard the “We the People.”

      Rob

  • Roger, a Canadian LIBERTARIAN

    More “madness”?, OR i fear authoritarianism ,in DISGUISE!!!

  • Brian

    If they want to look at terms of service as contracts then it is up to the parties involved, not the federal government, to pursue legal action for any breech of contract.

  • cae

    More rules and regulations on citizens that are not needed…the internet runs on buyer beware. We cannot force people to give their real age or real weight so the buyer has to beware..its that simple. Instead of the so called justice dept. going after people for fibbing online why don t they go after the illegals who are committing a felony when they use fake or stolen SS numbers. American ex cons cannot get jobs today due to the huge number of illegals, many of whom have criminal records in their home countries, so if an american excon uses a fake ss number and id to get a job he is prosecuted and thrown back into jail while the illegals do it consistently without any prosecution!

  • Raife

    That’s right… You will be criminally prosecuted without actually violating any specific laws. Therefore, the Government will, in no way, be answerable to the people for the laws that are imposed, and citizens will have no legal-redress against criminal-prosecution for, allegedly, violating -any- arbitrary “rule” that any “private” business decides to inflict. Furthermore, since TOSes are a “private contract”, the government already asserts that you have -no- constitutionally-protected rights in the matter, what-so-ever. And, on top of that, most, “Terms of Service” include the requirement that all “users” agree that the “TOS” can be, arbitrarily, changed… at any time… without any further consent… solely, by the company providing the service. So, if the “service” changes the, multi-page, “Terms of Service” between the time that you start typing, and you click the “submit” button… BAM… you’ve just committed a Federal-felony. And, what if buried on page 20-something of the “TOS agreement”, there is a totally vague clause about the expression of “offensive” views being prohibited? Yup… you could, literally, go to jail for “political speech”.

    Neat, and tidy… huh..?

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com gillysrooms

    Has anyone seen any moves by justice department to charge NORTON Virus protection who send me and billions of others i would suggest false messages of viruses they create to make you think you have viruses on your computer and the continual spamming and pop ups of Norton you cant get rid of? Whose to know if these corporations are not creating the very viruses that they then for a fee will protect your computer from their own viruses. Sounds like a MAFIA type protection organisation.
    / Have any of your Federal Consumer protection authorities investigated this area of treason within your own borders by corporate thugs who interfere with the free use for private and business use of the internet? Your Justice department seems to be looking in the wrong area for more business. Your justice department heads and politicians have gone absolutely mad by trying to make everyone a felon. Vote those people out asap I say. They are getting big heads and they should go outside their temples of punishment and smell the flowers occassionally. But then again your justice system is really a reflection of the voters who put these wanabe troskyites into power trying to destroy any respect for reasonable laws by introducting draconian medievil laws to put everyone of your citizens underfoot. WAKE UP AMERICA. YOUR JUSTICE MAKERS NEED COUNSELLING.

    • meteorlady

      What you need is a MAC. They rarely get viruses, they don’t update their software every other day, and I have never gotten a blue screen. No nice and relaxing not to have to deal with Windows and all it’s bloated software that is full of ins for hackers.

      • meteorlady

        Oh did I mention that I have NEVER had a virus and that I don’t have Norton or McAfee slowing me down?

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com gillysrooms

    And talking about fibbing and lying on the internet…a now deceased Law Attorney friend of mine was told by a judge that it was ok for a lawyer to tell fibs or to distort the truth in a court of law if it helped his client in his case. If the judge or jury believe the lies it was ok.

    People are entitled to lie to protect their privacy fron nosey private or corporrate and government officials who are tampering and collating material for statistical and commercial applications without the authority of consumers and users of the internet. We lie when we are being diplomatic when talking with anyone to avoid unnecessary conflict with neighbours or foreign nations and so many of our political diplomates lie when dealing with other foreign diplomates. Should they become felons too? WAKE UP.

  • Angel Wannabe

    These people have flipped there freakin’ lids!__Ok, two can play that game, If we can be procsecuted for internet “fibbing”, lets go a step further, then We The People should be able to make a citizens arrest, of a President & Congress for failure to lead America according to the writ of the Constitution!

  • Manawela

    Typical Obama administration. Michelle wants to stop everybody from eating junk foods, but her big butt says she aint practicing what she preachin. And typically the Obama administration, the biggest liars of all want to stop internet lying…..

  • meteorlady

    I have a couple of really great ideas -

    First prosecute anyone that uses my PERSONAL information on their website to make money. Do a search sometime and see what’s out there. Then ask the company to take you off their list and they want more information than they already have to do it. It’s MY INFORMATION and I should be ASKED if they can use it to make money or at least pay me a portion of their profits.

    Second perhaps they could prosecute those that advertise a product (like an iPad for $450.00) cheap and then don’t have it or send it leaving me to work through getting my money back since you can’t get them to respond. Fortunately there is PayPal and that’s not so bad but you still have to wait for PayPal to wade through the complaint and refund the money you are out. That usually takes about 2 to 3 weeks.

  • DABEE

    Internet Fibbers. There are far more important things the Justice Department should concern themselves with. The first and formost is the round up and deportation of the 25 million blood sucking illegal aliens. Then to arrest and prosecution of the people involved with “FAST AND FURIOUS” even if it includes the President.

Bottom
close[X]

Sign Up For Personal Liberty Digest™!

PL Badge

Welcome to PersonalLiberty.com,
America's #1 Source for Libertarian News!

To join our group of freedom-loving individuals and to get alerts as well as late-breaking conservative news from Personal Liberty Digest™...

Privacy PolicyYou can opt out at any time. We protect your information like a mother hen. We will not sell or rent your email address to anyone for any reason.