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Just Breathe

March 29, 2011 by  

Just Breathe

Should you ever find yourself out for a drive along the Michigan-Indiana border, take a moment to venture by the Kalamazoo district offices of Representative Fred Upton (R-Mich.). By itself, Upton’s office is entirely unremarkable; but not far away is a billboard which may arrest your attention like it was the police and you were a kleptomaniacal Hollywood starlet with a coke habit.

The billboard features a preteen girl with her face encased in what appears to be either an oxygen mask or an exceptionally Byzantine—albeit undoubtedly effective—delivery system for the kind of inhalants parents delude themselves into believing are foreign to their preteen girls.

upton-billboard

The billboard campaign is effective, at least on the surface. After all, no one wants to be the bastard whose legislative intransigence imprisoned poor Polly in her respirator.

The American Lung Association (ALA), theoretically a respected retinue of responsible folk, paid for these grim roadside reminders of respiratory distress, carbon dioxide and voting for Republicans. The ALA’s concern centers on the possibility that Upton, who serves as the current chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, may move to “…weaken the Clean Air Act.”

The billboards fail to mention a few fairly salient points. First, Upton has no plans to start pumping raw sulfur dioxide down your children’s throats. Second, Upton has no plans to weaken the Clean Air Act. His committee’s passage of the Energy Tax Prevention Act is designed to rein in runaway bureaucracy and unscientifically-motivated legislation which is in turn detrimental to economic and social progress. And third (and this one’s the kicker), this whole fear mongering campaign by the ALA is paid for by… you.

You read that last part correctly. The American Lung Association, a privately-run, tax-exempt, non-profit group, has received nearly $30 million over the last decade or so from the Environmental Protection Agency, a sub-cabinet-level division of the Federal government with enormous regulatory authority. And the ALA wants to stop Fred Upton from using the Energy Tax Prevention Act to put the kibosh on the EPA’s ability to crush economic development.

What Upton is planning with his Energy Tax Prevention Act—which rocketed through his committee and precipitated the ALA’s latest foray into fear mongering—is to return the Clean Air Act, and consequentially the EPA, to their legitimate purposes: Working toward cleaner air.

The Clean Air Act was most decidedly NOT implemented to institute what amounts to the odious Cap and Trade via a regulatory back door. Last November, the American electorate went to the polls slammed the door on bureaucratic regulatory subterfuge in resounding fashion; sending the Democrat Party busybodies who had spent the previous four years employing legislative authority to treat the American taxpayer like an ATM.

While the Democrat Party’s tendency toward the dictatorial isn’t new, the American Lung Association willingly serving as an accomplice to this sort of authoritarianism is less familiar. It’s terribly sad to see a once-proud organization dedicated to alleviating tuberculosis and other legitimately dangerous ailments sell its soul to a regulatory bridge troll like the EPA. It’s even sadder to see that once-proud organization do so by assigning real health problems to a theory which is the anecdotally-supported equivalent of geocentric astronomy.

And saddest of all: The ALA is either participating in this taxpayer-funded scam for the money—which means they have been motivated by pure avarice; or they’re in it because they really believe a sub-scientific theory is going to clog your children’s lungs, which makes them dupes.

Something is indeed rotten in Kalamazoo; but it isn’t Rep. Fred Upton.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Marty

    Glad to hear this about the ALA. I’ll be sending my contributions to some other organization that isn’t a butt kisser to this administration.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Marty:

      Try the Salvation ARmy.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Old Henry,
        you should also check out and see if you have a branch of Purple Heart Veterans in your town as well.

    • wandamurline

      How do we show our illcontempt to the ALA? Anyone got an email address where we can send our thoughts….about a million of emails can get their attention and let them know that we are informed about their derelection of duty.

      • DaveH

        Better yet, email this link to all your friends. People across America need to be alerted to these blatant vote-buying schemes perpetrated with our own tax money.

    • Carlucci

      My ex-next door neighbor used to campaign for the ALA. I never donated because this woman smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish. I guess she thought she could go on burning the candle at both ends and the ALA would come to her rescue. Needless to say she died of a smoking related disease a few years ago…

  • Macawma

    Why is it that everything that begins with a noble purpose turns into “something rotten”? Lord, forgive all these greedy bastards…

    • Mike in MI

      Macawma – It all depends on who touches it. Midas had the Golden Touch. The Apostles laid their hands on people and healed them. What would one expect the laying on of Obama’s hands to accomplish??

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mike,
        He’s got the midas touch in reverse! Everything he touches turns to $HIT!!!

      • Christin

        Last I checked “libel” was a sin ["Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor"] and against the law (LIEING about the facts) … why do these LEFTIST folks get away with asassinating someone’s character and livelihood …to cheat to win?

  • Les

    “To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven”. Forgiveness and reason have been scorned, it is time for a reckoning. Good article Ben. Another shiny nail in the coffin of bureaucracy.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Is there anything in the US that doesn’t have a ring of corruption around it? If the government is involved, probably not! How sad…

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Robin:

      This may sound like over-simplification to the “deep thinking” libs, but any nation that condones / promotes the slaughter of its least cannot long escape the wrath of God. Whatsoever you do / for to the least of these you also do unto Me.

      God Almighty used to hold his hand of direction / protection over the U.S. as He did the Israelites of old. That is no longer the case.

      • wandamurline

        Just as Obama says he helped the terrorist rebels in Libya so to stop a “massacre”, yet unborn babies are slaughtered everyday in America by abortions. I believe in birth control, don’t get me wrong, it should be everyone’s right not to have a baby if they don’t want one…but abortion should not be used as a birth control device. It is time for people to take responsibility for their actions…there are birth control programs that are free to everyone in this country, and the slaughter of babies in the womb should not be a birth control program…only when the mother’s life is in danger, rape or incest…and then counseling should be done to the rape and incest victims to possibly put the child up for adoption. This massacre thing is a double tongue.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Wanda:

          ” It is time for people to take responsibility for their actions”

          Now there you go using that four letter “R” word…. Shame, shame, shame….

          • Christin

            Old Henry,

            A couple more four or so letter words for you:
            “Reverence, Respect, and Responsibility!”

            We’d be a much better people if we followed those ‘R’ words.

      • Mike in MI

        Ol’ Henry – Ya! “…hand of protection…”
        It used to be “a cloud by day and fire by night”.
        Now it’s just a constant toxic cloud that just keeps getting thicker, smellier and more poisonous. (Maybe it’s just all liberal MJ.)
        If the ALA wants to attack anything that Obamallution is where to start.

      • Richard Pawley

        But He will not forsake His people even if He is allowing the congress to spend our dollars into oblivion. Count on at least 250% inflation before they kill the dollar. Some are convinced this is God’s punishment to the US or the world but we are allowing the congress to squander our money and debase our currency. So can we really blame God? I think not. It is we ourselves who have allowed it. Not you and I perhaps but the body politic. It could be stopped but I don’t believe that the American public has the fortitude to endure the reduction in our spending necessary to save our country. Running away as tens of thousands do each year to other countries won’t help in the long run, because everyone is spending money that they don’t have, and when the spending of congress collapses the dollar we will take the world with us. Some know this and that is why other countries are trying to set up a new currency to replace the dollar on the international scene. How can the Democrats and some Republicans not know this? I do not know, but I have seen this coming for years. All I can suggest is that you get ready for sky high food prices and if the EPA succeeds in their sneaky bureaucratic establishment of the Cap and Trade Tax then sky high electricity and fuel prices as well. It won’t be the end of the world but it will be far worse than the Great Depression and I said so in my last book.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    Once, quite a while back, I supported NPR with what little I could afford. After discovering their true nature and agenda, I not only refuse to support them, but am continually informing all who will listen of thier true nature and agenda, in order for others to make the same decision I have about them. After reading this article, I now have another that I must also refuse to support and spread the word of their attempts at propaganda that will harm all of America by using not only donations from an unsuspecting American public, but also with the tax dollars that the public is forced to pay, for them to be able to spread that propaganda. And the government is running up huge deficits so the ALA can advertise this false doctrine.

    • Eddie47d

      So the American Lung Association is now evil because of Crystal’s comments? What is this false doctrine in their ads? Air pollution is a serious issue and especially for the lungs.I would say that $3 million PER YEAR is well spent to avoid the billions that get spent battling lung diseases.

      • DaveH

        It is illegal for non-profits to engage in partisan politics. They have violated that rule. Defund the ALA:
        http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/03/congress-should-defund-american-lung-association

      • DaveH

        More on that. Here is the Liberal Group Media Matters trying to defend the ALA:
        http://mediamatters.org/research/201103240036

        Note that they say only 4% of ALA funds come from Government. Great. If that’s true, then they should have no trouble doing without that Government funding.

        • Mike in MI

          DaveH – Do you suppose that 4% came before r after they aunched against Rep. Upton (Rep)?
          What fools we mortals be(?)…trying to know the mind of “The Me-ess-ss-ss-ah-eeeeee-yah-ah-aaa.

          • Mike in MI

            Sorry, typos – “…before Or after they Launched…”

            Hey, did you see how ‘Bomb(out)er missedon four out of four of his bracket picks? I really feel sorry for those universities, don’t you?

            What do you want to bet all eight of those schools loose all their federal aid (AIDS), grants, fellowships, scholarship help and federal assistance – to say nothing of Democrat donor support next year for making the ‘Bomb(out)er look bad. Doesn’t it make you feel safe knowing He’s the same guy making the picks on who to support in international diplomaceration? No wonder Hillarity wants out of the Sec’y of Status job.

      • JR

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        • wandamurline

          Please go troll somewhere on your liberal sites.

          • Ellen1

            Thanks for saying that, wandamurline.

            I am astounded by the myopic shills who wail and wring their hands at what comes out of tailpipes and who absolutely refuse to see what rains down on us almost daily via the aerosols that crisscross our skies. Our skies have been changed from deep blue expanses to much lighter blues (if visible) and gray gauziness that is sickening millions. We are not able to receive our rightful access to the sun’s rays. Our soil pH is changing such that we won’t be able to plant “real” seeds instead of the toxic GM seeds peddled by the evil Monsanto. The aluminum levels in the atmosphere and on the ground are now off the charts; barium as well. We’re being poisoned quietly and consistently and still so many even deny the activities overhead.

            Please don’t think that I want poisons to be spewed out by industry. Those emissions have been responsible for the deaths of so many people and animals and destruction of surrounding areas.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Ellen:

            “see what rains down on us almost daily via the aerosols that crisscross our skies”

            Can you elaborate on your first paragraph?

          • 45caliber

            Ellen:
            I’d like some better explainations of your second paragraph as well. Perhaps you can give some examples other than liberal ads?

          • Jana

            Wow, we see everyday the foul mouthed and foul minded thoughts of the leftists that these people represent. Do they honestly think we want THAT running our country? Do they honestly think they are really being good representatives of their ideologies and the liberal leftists of the world?
            I think they must really think they are, or they wouldn’t do it.

          • DaveH

            Jana,
            I’ve glanced at some of the comments on the Liberal sites, and I’m pretty convinced that most of them are like the Libs that post here. Pitiful.

          • Eddie47d

            Jana; You apparently don’t pay attention to Castaway, WIA and 141. They are the foul mouthed champs. Even Dave H. himself can be quite testy.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            as near as I can figure she was talking about the contrails from the jets that Kate8 and a couple of others are always speaking about. I’m not up on them at this time so I’m not completely convinced, but what I have heard and seen, I’m coming around!

          • Jana

            Eddie,
            I realize you and Karolyn are liberals, but you don’t talk filth like a lot of your cohorts. You at least (for me) have a discussion. We both know we don’t agree with each other, but we can at least talk. Some of these other people make you feel like you need to go take a bath after even reading their posts, they are so dirty.
            It is alright to disagree, thats how we learn.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Whoa! What did “he” say that caused that?

      • Mike in MI

        d74eiddE – .pu taht gniraelc rof ,sknahT !regnessem nmaD

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          ekiM:

          How the h*ll long did tht take? Are you cixelsyd?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            it’s not too hard, just write it on paper first then copy it backwards!! ?pu ti realc taht seoD

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            HeoJ:
            peY

          • Mike in MI

            Ol’ Henry -
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      • LeRoy Z.

        No Eddie, they are not evil because of Mr. Crystal’s comments. Taking part in a tax-payer funded scam, misleading the public, using poor science or no science, etc. are what makes them evil.

        • Eddie47d

          Is it a scam or just your absolute opinion that it is?

          • DaveH

            What else would you call it when an organization advocates for a political party and is getting funds from unwilling taxpayers?
            I guess you’re used to that, being a union guy.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            AND a supporter of ACORN!!!

          • Jana

            I love it that the WI Gov. is not taking union dues out of the paychecks now. I wonder how much more they will be making?

    • wandamurline

      I don’t give to United Way or the Red Cross anymore because their CEO’s make more than the ones on Wall Street. I give to the Salvation Army whose CEO barely makes $20,000 and year and a place to live. So who is doing the best job with the money? My bet is the Salvation Army.

      • Eddie47d

        Oh,please Wanda; You don’t have a clue on those Wall Street CEO’s. Over the month’s I’ve noticed how many charities are getting slammed here. The authors have turned this into a personal agenda to bash certain ones. Less money to charity means more money for gold and Republican causes. Folks are always looking for excuses not to give and now you have another.

        • Mike in MI

          Speak for yourself, Eddie. (liberal scam artist that you are)
          How much did you put in the Offering plate last year(?)…or any thing other than your IRS dues envelope?…your mandatory investment in Obamaism. Or did you work it out so you got a refund?
          The documentation has been thoroughly gatherred that Capitalists and non-liberal citizens have historically given huge sums of cash, time, materiel and anything of value to charitable causes – when they have a PROFIT in their work or business.
          It has also been shown that the more liberal one is the less one gives. The inverse correlation is a striking phenomenon.
          It is a spiritual law that the more one gives (willingly, without coercion, with a glad heart) the greater a proportion one receives coming back.
          As government takes everything that everyone has and chokes off profit so no one (except liberals) has anything above subsistence funds government will choke the golden goose of economic prosperity. This country grew wealthy because conservative Americans have always been big hearted givers (in every way). GIVE US OUR HEADS AND GET THE HANDS OF SOCIALISM OFF GOD’S HAND OF BLESSING AND THIS COUNTRY WILL COME BACK IN A FLASH.

          • Eddie47d

            I give plenty Mike,Thank You. I know you are trying to be obnoxious and it’s working . Your assumptions about others are just that.

          • Mike in MI

            d74eiddE -
            Whose estimation of your word “plenty”. There are guidelines written in The Bible, but I doubt you’d ever crack that.
            If you did you’d have some wisdom.

          • DaveH

            Mike, come on. You don’t really expect an honest answer from a Liberal, do you?

          • Eddie47d

            Dave H. You are as ignorant as Mike. I have stated my Christianity several times and unlike you and your falsehoods about others proves your unChristian like behavior. I have nothing against atheists but you of all should know better. I guess that makes you a conservative liar and a bad one at that.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            mike in Mi,
            eddie doesn’t give as he’s on welfare and donating is hard on that!! He ACCEPTS donations, though!!

          • DaveH

            Ignorant Eddie,
            I’m talking about Mike asking you how much you put in the offering plate. It’s a waste of time asking a Liberal anything personal. The same lack of morality that permits them to help themselves to the money of others, also permits them to easily tell untruths.

          • Eddie47d

            Dave ,from now on I assume you will be asking others personal information since you expect it from certain people. I guess we’ll be learning alot from your life also. Since you lie about liberals in general this ought to get interesting.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Eddie47d,

          What authors on this site have shown an agenda to “bash” (your word) what charities? Please elaborate.

          Thanks,
          Bob

          • Eddie47d

            Gosh Bob, does Ben come to mind?

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear eddie47d,

            You wrote: “The authors have turned this into a personal agenda to bash certain ones.” I asked for examples. Is this example all you have? Ben pointed out a concern about the (possibly illegal) use of taxpayer funds to politic by a non-profit organization. One article does not make “authors,” nor does it indicate a “personal agenda to bash certain ones.”

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Mr Livingston,
            WHAM!!! Wid a right hand!!!!

      • 45caliber

        I agree. I won’t give to the Red Cross or United Way any more. Have you looked at what United Way does with the money given them? Here locally, most of it goes to profit-based day care centers or to lawyers.

        • independant thinker

          I quit giving to the united way (despite workplace pressure to give) years ago when they turned against the Boy Scouts.

      • Vigilant

        Israel Gaither, who has been the National Commander of the Salvation Army since 2006, makes a salary of $243,000. see http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/charities.asp

        • http://?? Joe H.

          vigilant,
          I look at the reports on charities to find out what percent of every dollar goes to the people the charity is supposed to help. If they want me to donate, it better be in the high 80s!!

          • Jana

            I agree with you on this. When I give my hard earned money, I don’t want it going to some guy sitting behind a desk earning a hefty salary from this charity. These guys live in mansions and they think up more creative ways to seperate the good hearted from their money.
            I check them out.

          • Jana

            The Salvation Army is a good one, and there are some other ones that are local that I like.
            I do tithe, but I only tithe where I am fed spiritually.

  • newspooner

    Someone in Rep. Upton’s Congressional District should file a complaint with the Federal Election Commission concerning this violation of federal elections laws. Of course, the government gets away with violating its own laws whenever it is convenient, while holding us to them and making us pay our own legal fees to fight them while they fight against us using taxpayers’ money.

  • Eddie47d

    Ben spreads misinformation and you all howl in delight.The House of Representatives (Republicans) voted on Friday to reverse the Clean Air Act (from 1970). I can hear the clapping and cheering echoing in your heads.Now take a deep breath while there is still fresh air out there. Anyone that wants to return to the early days of continual brown smog please move to China. The welcome sign is up for you. The number of cases per year of lung disease has been reduced greatly since 1997 when the Clean Air Act was improved.The number of Asthma cases has gone down by 350,000 per year since then.Sulfur Dioxide,Nitrogen Oxide,and chlorofluorocarbons and been reduced also. On top of auto emissions and factory emissions our air hasn’t been cleaner in decades. If you think Healthcare is expensive now just wait for this great Republican reversal to take place. Maybe Fred Upton has stock in oxygen tanks.

    • 45caliber

      Go collect your welfare check. We don’t need you here.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        45:

        I do not agree with much of anything Eddie espouses, but I enjoy his blathering of liberal talking points. It would be rather boring around here with everyone essentially agreeing with everyone else.

        Who knows, Eddie might eventually learn something by hanging around here. It’s not that our liberal friends are stupid, it’s just htat they know so much that simply is not so.

        • 45caliber

          I’m just not in the mood for his blather today.

        • Eddie47d

          Old Henry; This site also tells me how sadly misinformed many Conservatives are. They will believe anything that get’s posted by the authors and assume they are all facts. Sometimes there are no facts at all and only conjecture. Did I misprint something or is it that I was a smart Alick like Ben always is?

          • Brad

            Eddie47d,

            That’s where you are wrong, for one, if I find something missleading I’ll research it and post said findings. I look for the truth instead of hiding behind a party’s retorick like you do, take your head out of the sand.

          • Eddie47d

            Okay Brad where’s your facts or was all that tooting just rehtoric?

          • Jana

            Where are your facts Eddie?

          • Eddie47d

            At 8:55 Jana!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            how do I know those are facts??? I see no sites to back it up no proof at all!!!

          • Jana

            Thank you Joe H,
            I was oing to ask eddie where he got this information. I would sure like to find out about this. I had not heard of this.

          • Eddie47d

            Joe; How do we know anything that you say is a fact? I guess we’ll be expecting reams of truth from you from now on and well documented.

        • Carlucci

          But, what would we do without these lovable lunkheads from the looney left who post to this blog? They remind me of the “stoners” that went to my high school. Hardly anything they said made any sense, but everyone usually got a kick out of them because they were so clueless.

          Same thing here. The libtard postings don’t make much sense to me, but I have to admit that they tend to keep the conversation lively. And when the personal attacks start, you’ve got to admit that things can really get hilarious…

          • Mike in MI

            Well, Carlucci, The same crowd were the “stoners” in your high school. They graduated and go to your favorite site for news and good conversation. I’ve never met a one of ‘em that hasn’t done some “BAD stuff” for a while. They’ll swear there are no long-term mental effects. Well, anything that builds up in your fat and is neuro- and psycho-active is good to keep out of one’s system. I guess some people can harness the effects. Some can’t.
            Can’t shake ‘em. You keep trying; but the goofy ones keep coming back like old auto accident injuries.

      • Eddie47d

        I see Caliber yearns for the good old sunny days,opps without the sun.

        • 45caliber

          I must admit that I don’t live in LA so I never saw the smog you are talking about. I’ve seen sunny skies all my life.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            California has some of the most strict emission and EPA standards in the USA and they still have smog, so what’s that tell ya???

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Joe H:

            Is most of the smog over Sacremento?
            Or is it Secrete amento?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      eddie… I have googled your information and I am not finding where you got it. I thought Washington was on vacation last week.

      • Eddie47d

        Robin; Look under Clean Air Act/health.

    • DaveH

      Eddie,
      You have no credibility on this board.
      Here are the facts:
      http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/34940

      • Eddie47d

        It’s a point of view Dave H. and yours is from Sen Inhofe who also has an agenda. Job recovery is certainly important but for him to say that extra carbon dioxide is good for the lungs/”not bad for your health” shows he is out of touch. We’ve heard that from many before him and all defenders of lessened air quality. The issue really comes down to jobs vs. health. I say we can have both so is the EPA asking for too much or are the Republicans trying to backtrack on air quality.

        • TNJan

          Eddie, carbon dioxide may not be good for us to breathe, but ANYONE who paid attention in High School biology/science class knows that trees and plants MUST have carbon dioxide to live and grow, so they in turn can furnish we living breathing creatures with the oxygen we need to survive. Case in point, got smokers in the house? Make sure you have plenty of live plants in your house, spider plants are among the best carbon dioxide eaters. We don’t want the clean air act demolished, we want the extra taxes being voted on to be denied. We have enough of those to pay already, thank you!

        • DaveH

          Eddie, you said “The House of Representatives (Republicans) voted on Friday to reverse the Clean Air Act (from 1970)”.
          Prove it.

          • Eddie47d

            Look it up for it is there in black and white. The Senate might vote on it tomorrow or the next day. I didn’t say they are going to revoke the C.A.A.but are trying to take steps to dilute it’s effectiveness.

          • DaveH

            I should look it up? The house was on recess from March 21 – 27. Duh, I guess that makes you a liar, Eddie. Surprise, Surprise.

          • Eddie47d

            How could they have voted for it on the 25th if they were on recess? Don’t confuse yourself.

        • Dan az

          OK eddie maybe you can wrap your head around this.Other things create the gases that they want to get rid of,its not just us.What things are going on more than ever right now and before there were cars,factories,ect.?Try thinking outside the box for a moment.
          It has been suggested that volcanic activity caused or contributed to the End-Ordovician, Permian-Triassic, Late Devonian mass extinctions, and possibly others. The massive eruptive event which formed the Siberian Traps, one of the largest known volcanic events of the last 500 million years of Earth’s geological history, continued for a million years and is considered to be the likely cause of the “Great Dying” about 250 million years ago,[19] which is estimated to have killed 90% of species existing at the time.[20]

          The sulfate aerosols also promote complex chemical reactions on their surfaces that alter chlorine and nitrogen chemical species in the stratosphere. This effect, together with increased stratospheric chlorine levels from chlorofluorocarbon pollution, generates chlorine monoxide (ClO), which destroys ozone (O3). As the aerosols grow and coagulate, they settle down into the upper troposphere where they serve as nuclei for cirrus clouds and further modify the Earth’s radiation balance. Most of the hydrogen chloride (HCl) and hydrogen fluoride (HF) are dissolved in water droplets in the eruption cloud and quickly fall to the ground as acid rain. The injected ash also falls rapidly from the stratosphere; most of it is removed within several days to a few weeks. Finally, explosive volcanic eruptions release the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide and thus provide a deep source of carbon for biogeochemical cycles.
          Rainbow and volcanic ash with sulfur dioxide emissions from Halema`uma`u vent.

          Gas emissions from volcanoes are a natural contributor to acid rain. Volcanic activity releases about 130 to 230 teragrams (145 million to 255 million short tons) of carbon dioxide each year.[21] Volcanic eruptions may inject aerosols into the Earth’s atmosphere. Large injections may cause visual effects such as unusually colorful sunsets and affect global climate mainly by cooling it.

        • Mike in MI

          uh,uh,u-uh…uah,hu-hu-huhuhu..huah, ha,ha,hah…ha-ee-aheeeeyah..
          a-arg-gh-ghgheeah. OOWEEAH. bat,bat,BAT BAHT where’s my BA-A-HT. can’t take…it..anymorre. Going beat myself to DEATH with my
          O-OW-WN bat!!!
          thump! wham! PUMMEL! Whang.

          • Mike in MI

            DanAZ – Dang it, Dan! I wanted my post above to go in right under Eddies’ post and above your sensible and reasonable (calming) addition.

    • wandamurline

      Good, it was a bunch of malarky in the first place. The Clean Air Act was like most other government programmed lies to the America people. The worst polluter in the world is China, and you are not going to see them putting any kind of restraint on the pollutants in the air, and since the winds bring all of this to America, why bother with implementing a job killing law that will not help us anyways as China will own America in a few years thanks to the government bureaucries that are in place. How about we defund all the programs that the government is into that go beyong their authorization by the Constitution…we would have a balanced budget almost immediately.

      • DaveH

        I second that motion.

      • 45caliber

        wanda:

        Do you mean to say that pollution may cross country borders???

        I know that some of our Congressmen don’t believe that. When the EPA insisted that El Paso cut their pollution, the city had tests run to prove that if they shut down everything and every car in the city that they would exceed the EPA limit from pollution drifting across from Mexico. One of the Congressmen (can’t remember who) insisted that the border would stop that pollution so they had nothing to worry about.

      • Eddie47d

        That only proves that it is an international issue(China does have the worst air pollution) yet the Republicans always thwart any efforts to approach solutions.China is also the largest builder and user of solar panels. These are choices the world will have to make and they(us) should have started years ago.

        • Brad

          then eddie you need to read this article

          http://www.livescience.com/4226-world-10-polluted-places.html

          • Eddie47d

            Thank You Brad that helps prove my point. The USA had terrible pollution problems from mining and factories not to long ago. Thanks to the Clean Air/Water Act most of those problems no longer exist. If it is possible we should encourage other countries to do the same. To show the world it can be done.

          • karolyn

            Yes, Eddie, I’m old eough to remember the filthy Hudson River and the smell coming from American Cyanamide when I was a kid. Every day at a certain time that stink would waft over the neighboring towns. Thank God the Hudson is clean and we don’t have to smell stink from chemical plants anymore.

          • DaveH

            As usual, the board Liberals go off on a tangent. We’re not talking about Real Pollution. We’re talking about the kind of pollution that exists only in the minds of Redistributionist Liberals (carbon dioxide).
            And even the Real Pollution would be better addressed with specific laws and litigation against those who failed to comply. The EPA and all its arbitrary regulations are not necessary to the pollution battle.

          • Eddie47d

            Come out of your Conservative La La land Dave.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            you want a good example of the stupidity of the EPA?? In lake and Cuyahoga county in northeast ohio, We have to get our cars inspected every two years to combat polution from auto emissions. what they DON’t address is the FACT that a full 50% of the vehicles that drive in these areas are from outside the two counties and THOSE counties don’t have the AIM test or inspection!! Of course, THOSE cars don’t pollute!!!

          • Eddie47d

            Then it should be state wide.Problem solved.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I’ve got a better idea. Get rid of the dam thing!!! It isn’t doing any good!!!

    • DaveH

      Isn’t it ironic that Eddie says “Anyone that wants to return to the early days of continual brown smog please move to China”.
      China, a country where the politics are those that the Liberals want to force on the United States. Yes, it is a fact that the poorer countries have dirtier environments. And it is also a fact that Eddie and his Liberal buddies want us to practice the same kind of Big Government politics that have empoverished countries throughout modern history.
      This is the class of people who think they are the intelligent ones?

      • 45caliber

        Dave:

        What they want is for us to cut back on our (minimal) pollution limits to balance what China and all the rest of the world is putting out. We’d have to shut down all our businesses and cars to do it but that’s fine with them. (Except for their own, of course.)

        I used to work for an English-owned company. When we had some pollution problems, they sent some pollution experts from England to study our problem. They told us to just tell the government here that we couldn’t afford the pollution reductions and forget doing them. It gives you an idea of what standards they have in Europe.

        • Carlucci

          The pollution here couldn’t be nearly as bad as what you’ll find in cities like Bangkok, Mexico City, etc. Those cities are so populated that many people make a living driving old taxis and tuk-tuks, which are big polluters. If that was taken away, those people and their families would most likely be homeless and hungry.

          • Eddie47d

            Carlucci; Mexico City is built on an old lake bed and is also earthquake prone. They can’t build too far up so the city spreads and spreads.Over population,poverty and pollution.

          • DaveH

            Mexico is a mess as a result of Big Government. And the board Liberals want us to follow in their footsteps:
            http://heritage.org/index/Country/Mexico

          • Eddie47d

            Your mind is full of trash talk. If a liberal says the blue wall is blue you’d say it is orange! What a merry go round you are riding.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carlucci,
            i forget which city it is in texas, but a little town right across the border from them has a battery rebuild “factory” and the Texas city has monitored for years, the air coming across the border. The sulfer dioxide was so bad, on days that the wind blew FROM that direction, they had to shut windows and use air conditioners to get away from the stench. There was also a little stream that wound back and forth through there and the complete length of it was severely polluted!! Now I want eddie to tell me what our cutting OUR levels of pollutants is going to do to improve on THAT!!!

      • Eddie47d

        Dave H.; “This is the class of people who think they are the intelligent ones”? Back in the 70′s (Pre-Clean Air Act) Our capitalist system did nothing to enhance air quality. The American people were getting irritated with these businesses attitudes: Dump and pollute. Who had to show these businesses the way the GOVERNMENT.If government is so evil (and it can be) then why were all the problems coming from those capitalists who fought standards.Maybe if they were honest years ago they wouldn’t have the government barking up their tree today. It’s like the perpetual crook who breaks into peoples homes and promises to never do it again but you have to keep a watchful eye on him. Those businesses still have allies in Congress who will allow them to flirt with the law. A tax break here and a little de-regulation there and soon they are back to breaking into houses.

        • 45caliber

          Eddie:

          When the FDA was set up, it was needed because people didn’t know what was going into food. Now they do. Our present need for the FDA is to check stuff coming from other countries … but that would require that they travel there to check things before they are shipped to us. None of them really want to do that so we end up with problems like lead paint on toys, etc.

          Instead, they justify their large payroll and expenses by crash testing a couple of things a year such as red hair dye. “It will create cancer and kill you!” Or Saccarin. It caused cancer in rats – after they ate the equivalent of 160 cases of coca cola a day for months. (I’m surprised they didnt’ starve from a lack of proteins.)

          Much of government like the EPA is the same. All could stand pruning now.

        • DaveH

          As I said earlier, this discussion is not about Real Pollution. It is about the imaginary kind.

          • Eddie47d

            (Brown cloud and dead fish) is Imaginary? I figured you would stoop pretty low on the pollution trail.There is not an environmental problem around that you won’t praise.

          • DaveH

            Eddie47Duh,
            You’ve got me. I can’t compete with fabricated facts. And I can’t compete with your reading disability.

    • Carlucci

      But aren’t you forgetting that trees and plants serve as Mother Nature’s filter, and serve to clean the air up all the time? I heard an environmentalist on Christian radio say this very thing. Needless to say he didn’t believe in the junk science of “global warming”.

      I know none of us were around 100+ years ago when trains that ran on coal were the ultimate mode of transportation. What about the belching all of that thick black coal smoke into the air, not to mention the soot from manufacturing plants? And don’t forget the smoke from fireplaces and wood stoves that were used on a daily basis. The only “pollution” people bitched about then was the horse manure on the streets.
      If you can clean the air up in your home with just a few house plants, then it makes sense that the earth is getting the same benefit all the time from the trees and plant life.

      • 45caliber

        There are enough trees in Siberia, or the NW U.S., or Brazil alone to remove all CO2 that the human race puts out. So I can’t get too concerned about it. Further it helps them grow faster and provides more O2 for us to breathe. Some plants will remove the solid particulates (some at least) but most won’t. But what was put out then wasn’t bad except in London. Due to all the coal fired factories, trains, etc. they had then, they did have some problem.

        • Carlucci

          We have lots of trees and greenery where I live (S.E. Texas). My city is called the Bayou City. We also have a huge public park in the middle of the city that is mostly wooded, and it is gorgeous. People who come here from other states can’t believe they are in Texas. The people from Dallas really freak over the trees, because compared to us, they live in the concrete jungle.

          • 45caliber

            Nice place. I’ve been there. In fact it’s only about 60 miles from my place.

        • Eddie47d

          Caliber; That is not always true. Yes plants grow faster but because of their largeness they become weaker. Produce also becomes less nutritious with an overdose of carbon dioxide. More is not always better as with humans;sugar,alcohol and increased smoking,etc.

          • Carlucci

            Produce is less nutritious because they’ve overworked the soil. Plus all of the synthetic fertilizers don’t help.

          • 45caliber

            I’ve never heard of a plant becoming less nutricious after a dose of CO2. The plant processes hte CO2 to absorb the carbon and releases the 02 for us to breathe. The carbon helps it become nutricious. The lack of other things can lower its nutricional value however. Phosphorous, nitrogen, etc. are also needed.

          • Karolyn

            Carlucci, You’re right. I used to get so upset with my ex for using chemical fertilizers on his garden. I didn’t even want to eat the stuff. Compost enriches the soil, where chemically formulated fertilizers are just a quick fix.

          • DaveH

            You haven’t heard of it, 45, because Eddie just invented it. Don’t you know that Liberals can make up anything they want to prove their point?

          • Eddie47d

            You’re just not as smart as you think you are Dave!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            “because of their largness, they become weaker….” Tell that to the REDWOODS IN CALI!!!!!

        • Carlucci

          45 – Speaking of London, did you know that salmon used to live in the Thames? I read that in a book years ago.

      • karolyn

        The destruction of the rain forests in South America is contributing to the pollution in the world.

        • 45caliber

          There are still plenty of forest there. Still, I will admit that they don’t need to do what they are doing. The burning of the trees is what is causing the pollution, though.

          • Karolyn

            I haven’t seen anything about it lately, but the last I heard they were destroying something like 1000 acres a day. That might be way out of line, but I know the amount was very high.

          • DaveH

            The salient point here is that it is none of the United States business what Brazil does with their forests.
            It amazes me that the class of folks who think themselves talented enough to tell other people how to live, are mostly the same ones who are begging at the trough because they can’t figure out how to make a living.

          • Eddie47d

            What happens in Brazil doesn’t always stay in Brazil. Deforestation effects everyone. We can’t tell them how to live but we can encourage them to do it right.

          • DaveH

            You mean like you and your Union cohorts “encourage” others to join your Unions?

          • Eddie47d

            You sure stretched that one. Did you stay up half the night expressing your lack of a thought process?

        • Dan az

          karolyn
          The wood that they cut is a special species that have no knots and are highly wanted by all of the greenies like strysan and the very rich liberals like opra and the rest.Dont beleive me check it out for your self.Isn’t green just grand?

      • 45caliber

        Carlucci:

        I’ve said for years that if you are REALLY concerned about the quality of the air, plant a tree. You don’t need fancy equipment or new laws. The trees will do a great job of it. And I have plenty on my place to handle all my carbon footprints plus those of my wife and all our kids and grandkids.

        • Carlucci

          Me too. My neighborhood has lots of mature trees.

          A few years ago a big apartment developer wanted to build a property in a wooded area here. Of course they had to cut down some trees to do it, so the city made them plant the same number of trees elsewhere, which I think is a great idea. The property turned out to be beautiful, and I guess it is like living in a forest with all the modern conveniences. That is something I’ve always wanted to do since I was a kid – live in a wooded, forest-like environment. I loved stories like “The Secret Garden”, and anything having to do with forests, gardens, and plant life. I’ve been very lucky to see some of the most beautiful gardens in the world.

      • Karolyn

        I just saw and heard two pieces on coal today. One was on the radio, where a scientist was saying that coal-burning plants were far more injurious to humans than nuclear power plants. Then there was a piece on World News about a town in Oklahoma that has a coal dust dump, where so many people have cancer it’s ridiculous. On one street of 20 families, 14 people have cancer. And the EPA, while acknowleding that the water is contaminated is dragging its feet on declaring coal dust hazardous waste. Probably because the power plant will have to spend more money to get rid of it properly rather than just dump it and make coal dust mountains. My friend from West Virginia told me that most of her male family members that worked in the mines died from cancer.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          karolyn,
          If they died from working in the mines, they died of Black Lung, which is from breathing the coal dust in the mines in a much higher concentration than you or I will ever breathe in the outdoors in two lifetimes!! It’s the same as asbestosis which is from breathing in asbestos! Also called mesothelioma! The little fibers of asbestos get into the lungs and protude into the lung tissue and irritate the tissue till it dies!! Again, it is at a greater concentration than we would breathe in two lifetimes in normal conditions!!

          • karolyn

            Iw all about it, Joe, my uncle died of mesothelioma. Some of my family worked for Johns-Manville back in the day. The town of Manville, NJ has had a lot of asbestos-related illness.

    • Brad

      Eddie47d,

      You need to read this article, you are the one spouting missinformation. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52111.html

      • Eddie47d

        Okay, Where is my misinformation? I never said the Clean Air Act had anything to do with other countries. I like the Clean Air Act but for those of you who like the air in the USA to be dirtier I was only pointing out a place where you could live. That was a play upon those of you who say “if you don’t like America move to Russia”. You get the drift? Besides I already gave an answer to someones statement on that exact question. There is also a bill in Congress to water down the Clean WATER Act(Republicans are behind that too). It’s ironic that Mr Livingston offers many health tips and has articles on how to live a better life. Yet you all support those in Congress who vote against those same self interests.

  • http://justaretiredminister'swife Nancy

    We are very thankful for those who are more concerned with the state of our nation, liberty, morality, ethics, fair play and TRUTHFUL accurate honesty than personal gain/greed, Thank you Ben Crystal for divulging this enlightening disclosure. I am amazed that I am still amazed every day about what is going on in our country, our government, and humanity. We are living in turbulent times that are trying (and testing) man’s souls. Thank you Ben, for your strength and commitment to what exposing such inequities.

  • http://com i41

    The idoits that suck butts, jump rope, and huff should just have to pick up tab when their lungs go to hell. Same goes to people who will not get away from the trough and by all the bs on what to eat and let the government be their private nanny. All the crap plans of “saving the planet” causes everyone to use more fuel, makes everything less effiecent and work effective. I owned a 97 Dodge diesel 4×4 crew cab that 25 miles to gallon up hill or down hill,after 380,000 miles I got a 2007 Dodge diesel 4×4 crew cab, it makes only 20 miles a gallon. Why the big difference, poor fuel quality, more envior bs on the motor, the biggest problem a cyallatic exhaust system that restricts air flow. Cut the damn things out of any vehicle and mileage will go up by 3=8 miles a gallon. But you must waity until warranty is expired.

    • 45caliber

      My first car was a 1963 Ford Galaxy – full sized. It had the biggest engine they made in it. I got 25 mpg city and 28 mpg highway – driving about 210 on the freeway at the time. The car weighed probably three times what the largest car on the road today weighs.

      I’d like to see some similar car today do that milage.

      • independant thinker

        The first car I purchased new was a 1969 AMC Javalin V-8 std. tranny and AC. It was in the same weight class as the larger Chevelle SS-396. On the highway the faster you drove the better gas milage you got. I got as high as 30+ mpg driving 80-90 mph on the interstate. Driving a steady 55 I would get 25-28 mpg.

        • karolyn

          My first car wa a ’68 Javelin! Apple green, with camel interior. My dog ate the dashboard when it was a few years old. Wish I had kept it like my friend kept her ’68 Cougar. She still has it, and it’s worth a pretty penny.

          • independant thinker

            Was that Apple green or Big Bad Green? Mine was Big Bad Blue which was a bright sky blue. There was also a Big Bad Orange and I think one other in the color series.

          • Karolyn

            It was a true apple green like a granny smith apple. Boy, I loved that car!

          • independant thinker

            Wish I still had mine as well. I drove it for 20 years then a kid in a pickup ran a stop sign in front of me and totaled the car.

        • 45caliber

          independent:

          The speed that a car gets the best milage depends on the transmission. If your engine is basically idling at 90 you will get more milage than if it is trying to gain speed at 60 or is running at a higher RPM on a lower gear. The problem is that the enviornmentalists ignore that part of it. To them, (lack of) speed is the real answer to gpm.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            you just explained the workings of an overdrive transmission!!

          • independant thinker

            45………..I am talking about driving at a steady speed in high gear. Obviously your milage will not be as good if you are in a lower gear or accelerating compared to driving a steady speed. My point is driving a steady speed in high the car got better gas milage at 55 than 45, better at 70 than 55, and better at 90 than 70.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        45:

        Was it a 1963, or a 1963-1/2? You would have had either a 406 tri-power, or a 427 with dual quads.

        YOu MIGHT have gotten that mileage with the 406 if you kept your foot out of it and ran on the center carb only.

        I don’t think you would have been able to coax that out of the 427,however.

  • DaveH

    My vote is ‘Aye’ to eliminate the EPA. They have gone too far astray:
    http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb108/hb108-44.pdf

    • 45caliber

      When the Presidents and Congress can’t get enough votes to pass some bad form of enviornmental legislation, they simply tell the EPA to expand their rules to cover whatever it is that they want. As long as the EPA continues to do so, they will continue to get into things no one wants them doing.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Where is Rep. Darrel Issa and his Oversight Committee on this matter? The ALA getting our tax dollars from a guvment agency? There are some people who need to become “Bubba’s girlfriend”.

  • http://com i41

    The EPA is nothing but a binch of worthlers meddling unelected jackasses, who produce nothing useful and are parasites on society. Ever checked out the fleet of vehicles and the amount of wasted fuel these stuffed guts waste. When you check on budget you will have to add in all the other secondary branches thatr need to be added to costs. The Libyans and EU use only diesel powered vehicles, why it is cheap to make and is way more effient for maxium power. Ever tried to talk to the beltway dumb bastards of who they supporting or sho is greasing their palms? Just more of the democaps envior smucks club, dumb and dumber.

    • wandamurline

      yes, and because much of government has gone to diesel, the price of diesel is $.20 more at the pump which is putting a constant strain on the truck drivers who are actually working insteal of sucking the taxpayer teets.

      • 45caliber

        And diesel is cheaper and easier to make than gasoline.

  • Billythekid

    Like Randy and millions of others I supported NPR and PBS for years, NEVER again. In fact I’ve cut my charity donations to a minimum. I get 3 or more requests for donations every damned week. I’ve had it! Any group that gets government aid will not get one dime from me.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Billythekid:

      Please consider the Salvation Army. They are a wonderful organization and do more good than any 3 put together. And no, I am not affiliated with them in any way. I do, however, donate to them and my church.

      • 45caliber

        I agree with you. The Salvation Army is the only group that I feel actually try to use the money correctly.

        Some years ago now, the Red Cross asked for a lot of goods to give away after a hurricane in another part of the country. But they insisted on new, packaged items direct from the store. A local driver took them down (his time, his truck, his fuel). When he came back he reported that the RC was selling all the items at full cost. The RC said they “needed to cover their administration costs.” The only group that was giving stuff away, acording to the driver, was the Salvation Army.

        • TNJan

          Calibre, you are right, The Salvation Army has traditionally used 92-93% of it’s donations and income for the relief of those suffering. I know because I worked for them, and attended their church, and we were (and they still are) truly a SERVICE organization. My church I attend and they get my support. I would like to mention one other organization which helps mankind survive, and that is the Rescue Missions. They, too, are very selfless in service. I agree if they get a bunch of government help, better let them alone.

    • 45caliber

      Billy:

      My wife is a sucker for charity calls. If anyone calls, nine times out of ten (unless I’m sitting right beside her) she will promise to send them something. And in many cases she will. I’m trying to wean her off it because sometimes she costs me a thousand dollars a week for this! Every charity in the country must be sharing data because we sometimes get as many as 3 calls a day!

      • Karolyn

        Whatever happened to the Do Not Call list?

        • libertytrain

          I think most charities and political calls are exempted from the do not call registry. I still get those calls and am always registered on the do not call list.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          If you have EVER called any company to get information from them, they are exempt from the Do Not Call list!!! I have been told even if you called them BEFORE the list started, they are still exempt as far as YOUR phone goes.

          • libertytrain

            That’s true Joe – but that’s only businesses and you can still get off their lists – the charities and political stuff is not something we call – they call us. And as I always tell them, I do nothing over the phone but will respond to mailers of charities I favor or write my own check to a charity I choose.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          What ever happened to CALLER ID?

          I don’t know the number, I don’t answer.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Same here, old friend!!

  • DaveH
    • karolyn

      I don’t really anger that easily, but when I read about Big Agra or Big Pharma and their underhanded measures in concert with elected representatives, it just plain pisses me off!

    • 45caliber

      I don’t like them doing this with the government but I can see their point. Many times PETA or some similar group will film something – many times using their own people – and after editting it give it to the media who run with it. If you see all of the tape or recognize the PETA people involved, you can tell that there is a LOT of misdirection or just plain lying.

      In fact, a number of PETA officials are wanted by Canada for beating a bunch of baby seals to death pretending to be ‘seal hunters’. So far the feds have refused to extridite them.

      • DaveH

        Free speech can get messy, 45. But the alternative is much uglier.

  • 45caliber

    It always annoys me to see some group lobbying for or against something while using our tax money (or charity money) to do it.

  • 45caliber

    I would personally like to see the government stop giving any money to any charity. If I want a charity to have my money I will give it to them. I don’t need my tax money going to groups I don’t like.

    Further, many of those charities are actually used by the government for other reasons. For instance CARE (remember CARE foods for the starving?) is used to get money to foreign countries that the government doesn’t want us to know about. They provide over 99% of all money for CARE. The food is sent to the foreign country – who then can use it to feed their troops which frees up their own money for other purposes.

    • Eddie47d

      Okay Caliber. How about some facts to back up your misinformation? “The Government gives 99% funding to CARE”? I doubt it: but the government does use private charity groups to distribute food,clothing and water to other nations. Why set up another government agency when a group like CARE has the infrastructure and ability to handle disasters.

      • 45caliber

        There is a list somewhere on internet that shows the amounts charities get from the government. I saw it once but do not plan to look it up for you again.

        If you check – except for pictures – all food going to a foreign country MUST by our laws go through their government. The reason is that: if we give the food out the people there would be grateful to us but angry at their own government for not helping them. So by allowing their government do distribute the food, they are grateful to their government and less likely to revolt.

        The only Americans who give out food who are NOT there solely for pictures to show on our tvs to raise more money for the charity work for some foreign aid program that doesn’t believe in that BS.

        Care was set up solely to give aid to foreign governments. In fact, I thought during Vietnam days that it folded – until I saw that list. I do know that they are to supply food to foreign armies since they were supplying Vietnam armies with it – so the American people weren’t as aware of the total costs of the war. I’m certain that they are doing the same in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

      • DaveH

        Mr. Fact Fabricater himself having the nerve to ask others for references.

        • Eddie47d

          Nothing fabricated Dave.Go take your whinny attitude somewhere else.

  • http://com i41

    It only takes a temp of 200 degrees to make diesel, the range usually is between 200 degrees and 350degrees to make gas, oil, grease, tar and jet fuel.In 2007 foreign diesel cars were not allowed to be imported and several domestic made diesel models were stopped in production, because of the EPA plan to implement more restrictions on Clean Air crap. It costs between 10 -20 cent a gallon to create diesel, jag on you elected morons and ask why none of the beltway morons never seem to know what the hell is going on. When the dumbbastards in Congress were going on about ANWAR and the senic beauty crap, I had a sister and brother in law in Alaska who said they would give any of the beltway idoits a tour of the real world of where oil was. Same goes for present progressive liberal elected jackwagons of how cheap diesel can be made and their bs regs are raising food and energy costs, they will not go to see some small refinery plants that I would take them to. If the jug eared jackass muslim would actually do some work instead of being on vacation the dumb bastard migh learn something that books don’t teach hi.

    • 45caliber

      But he is certain that if he can raise the price of gasoline enough that people will have a better life. I suppose he wants to get his high speed train set going and wants to insure people will ride it.

      I have to drive 36 miles to work each day. Others I know drive 60-75 miles one way a day. No buses, etc. are available. Even car-pooling is a problem since the other drivers work different hours.

      In the NE and Chicago, you have all sorts of choices to go to work. I wonder sometimes if they are trying to put all the rest of us out of work so they can keep their jobs.

      • Dan az

        45
        I just read last night that the UN was going to force the EU to cut all of there traveling into cities by cars to make it less polluting.So they are going to raise the price of fuel to the point that no one will be able to afford to drive their cars to work.Sound familiar?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I saw on the news that Catapiller co. might move out of Chicago as the tax rates on corps have risen to a high point. The taxes on the workers have gone up as well!! One of the biggest, if not THE biggest employers in chicago!!

  • http://daleangell.com Dale Angell

    Who would you blame if you or someone you love gets killed by a speeder driving drunk at 100 mph if the laws covering speeding and driving drunk are repealed? Blame the fools who thought that such regulations were imposing on basic freedoms and the economy. People are killed every day because they inhale toxic fumes from cars, second hand smoke and industry. While there is nothing that can be done about much of this, it’s just part of modern life, why would anyone not want to limit these dangers where they can? Don’t blame ALA for trying to help.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dale,
      you are making the typical Liberal leap of faith into the misinformation speedway!!! The ALA And theA have never been able to make a correlation between second hand smoke and cancer!! They, like you just assume that since there are more cancer cases in houses that have smokers, that the reason MUST be second hand smoke!! Well, what about the person that has never smoked, has no one in the house that smokes, and as far as they can determine is not around any cancer causing element, GETS THE SAME TYPE OF CANCER THAT NON-SMOKERS GET????
      when you assume, you make an A$$ out of u and me!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        That should read the ALA and the AMA! sorry!

    • DaveH

      Life expectancy correlates closely to the wealth of a nation.
      Look at this list of countries based on life expectancy:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

      • DaveH

        Now look at this list based on Economic Freedom (from least Government to most):
        http://heritage.org/index/Ranking

        Notice that the countries on the bottom of both lists are pretty much the same. I’d say that’s pretty good evidence that the Bigger Government gets, the shorter the citizens’ lives get. And the Liberals want more Government. I think we should ban Liberals.

  • 45caliber

    Dale: People are killed every day, huh? So far no one has proved that second hand smoke has caused a single death. A few deaths that might have been related to it were actually caused by some other factor. Industry has caused a few deaths but not the number some people believe. Gasoline fumes have causes some problems but that is mostly because no one wants to produce a car that uses something else. Cars have been built that do, but all patents have been bought up by auto manufacturers or oil companies or the feds just refuse to allow them to be built for fear of losing fuel taxes.

    • karolyn

      45 – Do really think breathing in a bunch of chemical fumes is not going to hurt your body?

      • 45caliber

        It depends entirely upon the fumes. After all, AIR is a chemical fume mix.

        But I didn’t say it wouldn’t harm you. I said that it wasn’t as bad as people think. And I stand by that. The media makes it out far worse than it is due to lack of knowledge and a desire to sell their news by scaring you. Auto fumes are worse than industrial fumes for several reasons. First, there are more of them. Second, industry does try to remove as much as possible IN THE U.S. It is good business.

        I also said that second hand smoke hadn’t been traced to any death. It can harm IF someone already has some disease from another source but no one has been able to trace any problem solely to second hand smoke. And I haven’t smoked anything in over forty years so don’t accuse me of being a smoker trying to defend myself.

        • karolyn

          45 – Everything we breathe, eat, and put on our skin gets processed by the liver, and ya can’t live without one. However, it is a remarkable organ that can take a lot of abuse and then rejuvenate. However, having HepC, I try not to use or eat chemicals.

          • 45caliber

            Sorry to confuse you but … you do eat them. EVERYTHING is a chemical of something. There are some harmful chemicals and I assume those are what you are trying to avoid. Good luck on that.

            The real problem is that the media won’t explain to people what are harmful and what aren’t. Gasoline is actually a very harmful chemical. But we are used to it. Chlorine is helpful by killing bacteria in water – but try breathing it. Yet it is also helpful in many other things like bleach. Hospitals use it to kill viruses – about the only thing that will. It is not the chemicals that are the problem – it is how we use them. The problem many times is that people overplay the harmful affects of one thing in an attempt to sell you something else at a greater price that may be just as bad or worse. What everyone needs to do is to do some actual research on them before letting someone tell you that some “chemical” is bad for you.

          • Karolyn

            You’re right 45. We can’t avoid all chemicals. However, I try not to purchase any foods with preservatives or dyes in them. Did you just hear recently that they’re saying that some of the dyes affect kids’ behavior? anything that sounds like a chemical in the ingredients I stay away from. I read all labels before buying. I am in excellent health other than these old hips wearing out! :-) I also use natural cleaning products as much as possible. When I have the extra money, I will even buy natural dog food for my dogs.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            karolyn,
            my oldest is thirty one and there were warnings out when she was two that red dye number four would cause kids to be hyper active! The colorings in food warning is anything BUT recent!! Also, you could be doing your dog more harm by switching their food back and forth than by giving them non-natural food!! constantly switching their food abruptly will cause them to have stomach problems. Ask Claire, I’m sure she will tell you the same thing and she has taken best in class with her dog. She won’t do that with sick dogs!!

          • karolyn

            Joe, you’re probably right about the dog food. However, pretty much what I try to stick with is at least natural treats. When my “puppy” was little, he was growing too fast for his legs, and his joints were bowing out. I put him on a good natural large breed puppy food, and it helped in his proper development. Purina just came out with a new expensive natural food. What I do is just mix it with their other food, and they are doing just fine.

      • Dan az

        Karolyn
        The amount of carbon dioxide that the volcanoes put out each year is 250 million tons do you think that we should make them stop it?How much does the cars put out?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Dan az,
          I know!! Let’s put a concrete containment cap on all the volcanoes!!!! Yeah, that’ll do the trick!!! LOL!!

  • karolyn

    Everythig we breathe affects our bodies. Why do you think there’s so much childhood asthma and allergies? Then add all the chemicals in prepared foods and VOILA! It didn’t used to be that way. People have been tested and found to have DDT in their blood, and DDT was banned almost 40 years ago. Think about it.

    • 45caliber

      My son had asthma as a boy and took shots for allergies until he moved to Arkansas. He has trouble now ONLY when he comes to Texas and drinks the water here. Texas water mainly comes from rivers and the water is polluted. In fact, Dallas and Fort Worth didn’t have any waste treatment plants until about 15-20 years ago. I’m not sure if New York has one yet. (They certainly argued enough about it.) They simply dumped all their waste into the Brazos River (or into the ocean in the case of NYC). We downstream treat and drink the water but the treatment does NOT remove any pollens or other such things that cause allergy reactions. Asthma is caused by allergies, not chemicals. And there are enough things in untreated waste to cause allergies.

      The air here, even though we live in the largest industrial area of the U.S. and the third largest in the world, has no affect on him at all.

    • Dan az

      Karolyn
      Guess where your veggies come from yep Mexico and guess where it is legal to use DDT yep you got it!

  • Edge Architect

    Really, Mr. Crystal?
    . Try rewriting this for the general
    . voting public, would you. It’s sooo
    . verbose you can hardly cut through it!
    . I know, then it turns out to be a
    . column with three or four sentences and
    . not really an article at all.
    . Very disappointing to treat such an
    . important topic this way.

  • http://com i41

    karolyn, in areas where DDT has never been used in southern hemispere have DDY compounds in the soil. You envior pinhead DDT swhat stopped malaria from killing millions of people. Now the “government ” is trying to invent a compond to halt the WestNilw carrying mosquietos, styill haven’t found anything to stop the pests. A few yearrs ago there was a estate sale with some DDT powder in some sealed canisters, the price went higher than hell and when the lids were opened to inspect, the ones going nuts were the old 60′s hippy envior freaks. The 2 guys that bought the DDT used it to spray a solution on grasses to keep the pests down, nobody got sick or had any problems. When I and my younger brother used to sprey at least 500 lbs. every year on feilds, our livestock before going out to pasture to control horn and face flies and other pests, of course if a high pressure hose broke we always got sprayed. None of my family members of muy children or grandkids have ever had any cancers or bad effects. It is just about as smart as the find of radiation in water or rain from Japan. Just more b–l s–t from envior freaks, like in the early 69′s when the snow durning the winter got a reddish tint from some radoactive material test, because we were told not to eat any snow and only drink water treatment water from towns. So just more media created crap.

    • 45caliber

      City water is treated only to remove the bacteria. This is done by adding chlorine to it. (The same smell as swimming pools or bleach.) It doesn’t remove viruses and seldom filters it. When it is filtered, it goes through a sand filter that removes only the larger particles. The smaller stuff (like pollen) and anything dissolved in the water (like chlorine) gets to you.

      If you want to eliminate more of the problems in the water, filter it at your house. They have filters that do a great job. It will triple your water bill but it does a great job. The extra water is used to continually wash the filter so it won’t plug up.

    • 45caliber

      I agree about DDT. There would be millions of people – mostly children – who would survive each year if they could use DDT to kill the malaria carriers – the mosquitoes. In fact, the “evidence” that was used to get rid of it – the thinning of egg shells of birds that cut down on the hatch rate – has been proved to be from something else. Yes, any insect poison can be bad in great enough quantity for anything including people – but a lack of it can also kill a lot more even if people were sprayed with it.

      In fact, I’d LOVE to get some of it here! The fire ants have taken over and DDT is one of the few things that will kill them. If you have never stepped into a fire ant nest – you need to just to learn why they are called ‘fire’ ants.

      • karolyn

        I have experienced fire ants. Once, when picking up a large plant, I had them all over my arms and then another time picking up a bunch of hay for the chicken coop, I had them all over my arms and chest. Thank goodness where we lived there were no neighbors because I immediately had to rip my shirt off. My ex used to dump gasoline on their nests. I had some natural fire ant killer that worked very well. I once heard that nutrasweet kills ants, but I guess that would be a bit expensive! :-)

        • Carlucci

          I’ve heard that also about Nutrasweet. Would not surprise me.

          Have you ever heard that sprinkling Tabasco or a similar cayenne/vinegar pepper sauce around the outer perimeter of the house will keep roaches away? Apparently they can’t stand the smell.

        • 45caliber

          There are many “cures” for them. Most won’t work at all unfortunately. I heard that grits would kill them. The ants won’t eat them either.

    • karolyn

      So THAT’S what happened to you, i41. Explains a lot! :-)

      • http://?? Joe H.

        karolyn,
        now just because 41 has two heads and four arms, don’t mean the DDT affectedaffectedaffected him!!! me neither!!

  • Dave from Ohio

    The American Lung Association should be required to testify before the House of Representatives to illustrate the other billboards they are funding against Democratic House members or lose their tax-exempt status for political activity.

  • http://com i41

    karolyn you liberial athist, I would not live down south and would not eat grits. I think your proble is all the rope you have jumped and massive illict drug use that has you a mental moron. Typical envior bs about soil contanination, using gas to kill antys, why the hell didn’t you use a weed burner, cheaper to use and more effective. I can see why you have an ex, he had to keep his mind intact.

    • Karolyn

      i41 – You have such a great sense of humor! :-)

    • http://?? Joe H.

      i41,
      now don’t knock grits!!! Grits is groceries, man!!!

      • independant thinker

        Now you talking. Grits, turnip greens, southern style cornbread (not that cake sweet yankee stuff, blackeyed peas, sweet potatoes, gumbo. Now thats fine eating.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          independant don’t forget collards, hush puppies, and drop biskits!!! Now I’m drooling on my PC!!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            oooohhh! southern style catfish!!!!

  • http://FarTooMuch.Info Russ Lemon

    CO2 buildup is the stimulus that tells us to breath. No one will notice a lack of O2. The main disadvantage of more CO2 in the air is that the grass grows faster. But then, so does corn, wheat, rye, etc.

  • AustinAndy

    Perfect. A $30 million cut to the budget of EPA which would not do a thing to hurt its job of protecting the environment. We could and should put that budget cut in today.

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