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John McCain Rejects Obama’s State Of The Union Proposal To Abolish ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’

February 2, 2010 by  

John McCain rejects Obama's State of the Union proposal to abolish 'don't ask, don't tell' During his first State of the Union address on Jan. 27, President Obama said he will push for overturning the ban on openly gay people serving in the military. But his former rival John McCain criticized the proposal.

Obama called for abolishing the 1993 "don’t ask, don’t tell" law, saying that "this year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are."

The president’s words echoed his campaign promises from 2008, although he came under criticism from gay rights groups during his first year in office for not pushing the issue. In fact, many were not satisfied with last night’s reference, either, as Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, said that "the next time the president speaks about our community, we expect him to provide a concrete blueprint."

On the other end of the opinion spectrum, Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) said he believed the law should remain in place.

"At a time when our armed forces are fighting and sacrificing on the battlefield, now is not the time to abandon the policy," he told reporters after the speech.
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  • We the Indigenous People

    Our President, with all due respect, must be out of his mind for trying to lift that ban. There is NO WAY in hell I want to serve with a flame next to me who openly shows he’s on fire! LOL

    They don’t allow women to directly train in bootcamp with men, so maybe worst case scenario the can make a gay division of each branch so they can flame on and off in their own environment. LOL

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Again, this is for votes. This man does not have a clue. Our fighting men and women don’t want to have to put up with gays. Don’t tell is fine. When my husband was in the military, that was not the premise, they got expelled if they were found out which is the way it is suppose to be. Especially in the Navy don’t these gays realize they can come up missing – like off the fantail at sea. I will never understand this. GO BACK IN THE CLOSET.

      • DaveH

        I can’t for the life of me understand why any gays would fight for that. If I was gay, the last thing I would want is for my fellow soldiers to know. It would be a lot safer for them not to know.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I think our military is the greatest in the world. The best trained and equipped. I have confidence that we have the discipline to be professional. Gays have been in the military all of history. They have served as bravely as heterosexuals and I have never heard of a scandal. If there have been problems I seriously doubt it is at a rate any higher than problems in the heterosexual military population. Also, if other countries can include the homosexual population in their military with no real problems than we certainly can.

      • http://naver samurai

        Too much kool aid Doc. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Jim Robins

    I served 40 years of military service, and am now a retired service connected disabled war vet.. I am an ordained minster, therefore I view this issue from several view points. I feel that allowing gays into the military is not in keeping with good military order. They disrupt any and all military programs that they are involved in. There is not a good argument for allowing them in the service. I agree with the old adage, once it is known that they are gay then they should be discharged and not with an honorable discharge ether, since they lied on their enlistment contract.
    Granted I am from the old Army, before we had women in combat, etc. We had women in the service but not in combat.
    I am opposed to political correctness, which is just a handle for the ACLU and the left wing radicals to grasp in an effort to further their agenda.

    Thank you.

  • realbigal

    How in the world did this ever become an issue in the first place? Set your time machine dial to 1911 and start discussing this issue with people. They would think you are insane. Have a significant number of people in modern society lost all common sense?

  • gaetano

    Well ,If they do let gays openly into the armed forces,and they room to gether,I want a bill passed to let staight men allowed to room with the women in armed forces. Good time partying.WOW may be Obama has got some good ideas after all.If they would let men and women room together,could you imagine how many would sign up.We would have other countries comping here just to join our military.
    GO URSURPER GO

  • Litefite

    This is just stupid, there have always been gays in the military, however they are in the same position as all other service members, They are required to be professional and disciplined at all times not bringing discredit to there branch of service. All I see as Obama wanting to bring discredit and chaos in the ranks. Obama is the biggest failure I have ever seen.

  • susan

    I think that this con man that is our new President has always had on his agenda to take down America and make it less powerful. Having Gays in the service will create fighting in the ranks and Soldiers turning on each other. But alas, I don’t know what we can do about this. If the Saudi Prince is being allowed to buy up all our banks and giving terrorists American rights, after publicly declaring them guilty; knowing full well that because the President declared them guilty in front of the whole world; that they will get off because they can’t (get a fair trial). We’ll just pat them on the hand and tell them to leave our Country and don’t come back. Obama is a very dangerous man who like the Pied Piper can get thousands to follow him off a cliff if he decides it. With our banks being owned by foreign Nationals and destroying our Military from within. What Nation has any respect for America now. Every other Country sees us as weak now because of Obama. I’m just so sick of seeing his face on TV while he talks like he’s helping us, when he is destroying what makes our Country strong and great. God help us………..

    • Publius

      God Help us, indeed. We must somehow overcome the mass of lemmings who voted him into office. Fortunately, he is helping us by continuing his policies which are angering the electorate. Spread the word and help him dig his own grave.

  • Carol

    Thank you for your well stated position.
    I agree with every thing you have said.
    Add my name to your list of thank yous

  • Robert

    At least I can say one thing about Obama. He’s an expert in the art of political distractions. You think for one moment this wasn’t a calculated strategy by him and his thugs to yet put out another obscene policy so he and his democratic traitors can sneak through his hidden agendas of healthcare, cap and tax, more stimulus slush funds, a bankrupt budget and Oh Yea, lets not forget gun control? I’m staying focused on the real issues. The loonies in Washington can waste their time and our money on this ridiculous policy arguing the merits. McCain should just point out that this is not the time to even consider this assinine proposal while we have other more critical issues to work on. Like sending Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid to Haiti with a couple bags of rice and a KKK wordrobe with no security protection right into the heart of Port Au Prince.

  • Nancy

    What’s wrong with don’t ask don’t tell? Sexual orientation shouldn’t be a part of any military or workplace. Keep your sexual orientation to yourself and act professional!

  • Roger

    What’s wrong with don’t ask don’t tell? Sexual orientation shouldn’t be a part of any military or workplace. Keep your sexual orientation to yourself and act professional! This is one of the only things Bill Clinton said I agreed with.
    O’Bama is doing a fantastic job of Distroying America…..

  • Barbara

    Anyone who had any sense knew that he could not do the things he promised without raising taxes. He has gone even farther, he is selling our country out day by day. In one administration he has destroyed the great country we were. Let’s get him out of there! His vice president couldn’t be any worse than he is

  • Wilhelm

    Currently our biggest enemy is Islamic extremism. They already hate us. They also have strong views against non-heterosexuality. The idea that US troops are a bunch of homosexuals will give them even more ammunition to prove that we are a decadent nation.

    I worry about the future of the US with idealists like Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Franks, and many others in this administration who are dismantling our traditions in the name of progressivism. I agree that the system needs fine tuning due to the excesses of previous regimes but it will be a daunting task if we ask yet more politicians to do the work. Obama’s direction is for the cliff.

    US voters have not been diligent in making clear to politicians what we want. Hope the lesson is learned.

    • Robert

      Hey does Franks qualify for the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy?

  • Todd from Ohio

    I served 26 years in the Air Force. I find the whole idea of allowing gays in the military disgusting. If gays were openly allowed I wouldn’t have served a single day. Being gay is a personal choice driven by a twisted-perverse mental state. I don’t care how much scientific BS the left throws at the issue, gays need mental help. Here’s a question for leadership, if gays are allowed in the military will they in turn recognize homophobia as a legitimate mental/medical condition? There’s no cure for my homophobia so please quit trying.

    Here’s another way to look at it…. If you take a person who’s deathly afraid of heights and lead them blindfolded to the edge of a cliff what would their reaction be? Naturally, there’d be no adverse reaction because they wouldn’t be aware of the perceived danger. Well, the same is true of the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. If a gay wishes to serve in the military they should be forced to keep it to themselves. That way we homophobes can keep our condition under raps as well.

    As for John McCain…. Sir, I am deeply hurt that you were not more forceful in your criticism of the president’s plan to do away with the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. What do you mean, “now is not the time to abandon the policy”? You should have said, “Not now, not ten years from now, not ever.” Then again, the wife and daughter wouldn’t have let you live it down would they?

    Please people, if you care anything for the security of this great nation, vote anyone out of office who would even remotely consider allowing this to happen.

    Thank you.

  • Palin12

    I only watched a small part of Obama’s state of the union message and that was the part about don’t ask, don’t tell. When he said he wanted to repeal it, all the demoncrats stood up and applauded, but the Joint Chiefs sat there with icey stares. You could read their minds. They are opposed to it and rightly so. With the election of Scott Brown, I believe ALL of Obama’s agenda will fail, one after the other: health care, union card check, global warming, amnesty, and overturning don’t ask don’t tell.

    • Raggs

      It would be nice if you were correct, but obama will never give up on his radical hitler style agenda’s voting therefore will only add to his rage with America and the white man. When his radical Dem’s are voted out his back-up plan which is already in motion since Browns election… will be to thrust with full force every means possible or make-believe the downfall of capitolism…. his and I will not caplock his name or call him president… obama is nothing less than a homosexual for approving a “law” against GOD… So as far as I’m concerned he can go su*k a dic*… Remember hitler was a “gay”.

      • Katja

        Raggs, you are dead wrong ! I am a non-gay female from Germany, and I can tell you for sure that HITLER PUT THE GAYS IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS, AS WELL AS E.G. GYPSIES ! The camps were not just for the Jews !- So if you want something to rant about, try to get your education system fixed in this country, where they don’t even tell you historical facts if they don’t please them !

        • libertytrain

          Katja – good post – I wonder how many people don’t realize who all were sent to the camps — I’m sure the Jews were the majority – but the Gypsy, Catholics, gays, etc. were there as well. And you are right about the education system as well.

  • Warrior

    I think gay men should stay in hetero female barracks and butches should stay in hetero men’s barracks. There, problem solved.

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    What’s the matter with obama? Has he lost his mind to repeal the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell? This country has enough problems.

  • eyeswideopen

    http://www.palmcenter.org/research/nations+allowing+service+by+openly+gay+people

    The rest of the world has faith in the professionalism of it’s military. The link shows that the world is changing and in addition to those countries listed, in June of 2009, Spain, Finland, France and Austria have changed their laws and are openly allowing gays to serve. So, when our troops are shooting side by side with UN troops, guess what, a gay could be hunkered down right next to our soldiers and sleeping in the same foxhole.

    • Palin12

      Oh yeah the world is changing alright. Recently, everytime it’s been put to the voters, gay marriage has been rejected…California, New York, Maine…. the liberals will never be satisfied…after more gay rights, then they’ll say it’s their right to be polygamists too…or maybe bestiality. They’ll say it’s not hurting anyone.

    • DaveH

      What do you know, Eyes is telling the truth on this one:
      http://www.palmcenter.org/research/nations+allowing+service+by+openly+gay+people

    • Tinwarble

      Eyes,

      Apparently you know nothing about the UN Peacekeepers, or how the US participates. As of 4-30-2003 (I couldn’t find the actually numbers for years closer to now, but this is typical) Of the 37,000 troops and civilian police serving in UN peace operations, only 3,323 come from the European Union and only 558 from the United States (543 civilian police, 13 military observers and 2 soldiers).
      Also, as of March 2008 the 10 main troop-contributing countries to UN peacekeeping operations as of March 2007 were Pakistan (10,173), Bangladesh (9,675), India (9,471), Nepal (3,626), Jordan (3,564), Uruguay (2,583), Italy (2,539), Ghana (2,907), Nigeria (2,465), and France (1,975).
      The US military does not actually participate with the “UN troops”, most of the U.S., UN Peacekeeping is done by civilians and the military personnel that participate are observers, and don’t usually have to “sleep in a foxhole”.

      • eyeswideopen

        Tin, my statement about sleeping in foxhole was facetious. Like catching cooties from being too close to someone. Should have put lol after statement. However the world is changing and personal liberties will not be denied. I don’t care who you have sex with, how you have sex. Unless you are molesting a child or rapping someone, it is none of my business, and it doesn’t prevent you from doing a job. As you so rightly pointed out our Founding Fathers were very precise in their language and thoughts, they didn’t address the issue of gays, so they have the same guarranteed rights of freedom and privacy that the rest of us do. If you are going to have the Constitution be the document that rules our lives, then until you get an admendent saying that gays are second class citizens, everyone is equal. Libertarians have the right idea, everybody is equal with equal rights. Stay out of peoples personal business.

        • Tinwarble

          Eyes,

          You know, for someone who thinks that they know a lot, you don’t. The part were you say, “As you so rightly pointed out our Founding Fathers were very precise in their language and thoughts, they didn’t address the issue of gays, so they have the same guaranteed rights of freedom and privacy that the rest of us do.”, that is because the military has it’s own rules for conduct, you know that little thing called the UCMJ. This is also not about a right, sense there is no sexual orientation question required to join the military. This is about morale and about the military being over sensitive about discrimination and the ability to discipline troops. Do you not remember what happened at Ft. Hood? The reason that it happened is because the guy that shot up Ft. Hood wasn’t disciplined because his commanding officers and those around him were afraid of being brought up on discrimination charges. Now, I’m not saying that a gay person will shoot people, but it does make it harder to discipline them, because they could yell discrimination. Also, your argument is obtuse anyway, because “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” works for all sides, sense you are not allowed to ask if someone is straight, and discouraged to tell, the same as it is with gays. And as far as staying out of peoples “personal business”, you give up the right for people to stay out of your personal business when you join the military. Once you join, your business is the military’s business, whether you are in uniform or out of uniform and whether you are on base or off, you are always subject to the UCMJ.

          • eyeswideopen

            Tin, I guess the women shouldn’t serve as they could be yelling discrimination when they don’t get the promotions they should? What about carnal knowledge, you think straight soldiers should be busted for having sex while not married? How many do you think were court martialed for that offense? You and your wife practice sodomy, you think you should be court martialed? Half the military would be busted for that one. I doubt there are many soldiers who are virgins in the military, I don’t think they give up having sex while they are serving(non combat areas), but isn’t carnal knowledge forbidden?

            You know Tin, I have admitted that you are more intelligent, than I am, why do you feel the need to repeat that fact in every post you respond to? I don’t see you making that remark to others whose opinion differs or whose knowledge is less than yours. Does it make you feel good to be so condescending? Most intelligent people don’t feel the need to belittle others who don’t have their same intelligence. You on the other hand use it as a weapon and want to point out to everyone that I don’t measure up to your intelligence standards. Why is that? Are you only capable of discussing issues with those who agree and admire you? No, that isn’t true as you repsond to some real whackos on this site. Tin, I get it, you think I’m dumb. It is not necessary for you to tell me over and over again.

    • Tinwarble

      Also, eyes, were US Forces have fought in Multinational Operations in peacekeeping missions, they are under the control of US Military Leadership, and even though they participate in joint operations, they don’t actually fight side by side.

    • Todd from Ohio

      Eyes,

      Tinwarble has it right. All the times I was deployed, my unit was never integrated with forces from another friendly nation. Our units fought side-by-side, but not at an individual level. As for living in a foxhole with a closet gay… believe me I don’t exactly like the idea, but as long as they keep it to themselves and maintain their professionalism, I promise to maintain my professionalism. The “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy helps to ensure that continues to be the case.

      Allowing gays in the military will only serve to undermine the professionalism of our military. Do you actually think the other countries would admit that allowing gays in their militaries was a wrong decision? It has been my experience that there are very few leaders who are able to admit they were wrong.

      If you allow gays in the US military, Oh sure our military leaders will salute smartly and comply with what ever policy our country’s leadership gives them. They’ll go on for decades without admitting the negative impact. They’ll spend billions on special housing, sensitivity training, etc. In the end our military will be weaker for it.

      Please everyone reading this… if you care for your military and the safety and security of your country, STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING!

      Thanks

      • eyeswideopen

        Todd, and what impact does it have now? They have been serving for the life of this country. You need to read the Rand study done in 1993.

  • Raggs

    (words removed for offensive content)
    This is what we have as a “protector” of our rigth’s… No I don’t think so the only protectors of our liberties are the ones that are not brainwashed into thinking it’s ok to bed with another man.

  • Dale, Oklahoma

    Something tells me we’re going to start seeing bumperstickers
    like, “Don’t Serve You Perv!” or “No Pervs to Serve!”.
    But then, that would include a wide range of folks. Not all
    of which would be homosexual.

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