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Joe Biden: Success In Iraq Is Obama Administration’s Achievement

February 17, 2010 by  

Joe Biden: Success in Iraq is Obama administration's achievementOn the Larry King Live show last week, Vice President Joe Biden took credit for the success in Iraq, stating that the United States involvement in the war-torn country "could be one of the great achievements of [the Obama] administration."

The vice president’s statements have angered many Republicans who have pointed out that, as senators, Biden and Obama both opposed the surge in Iraq.

Biden also credited the current administration with the troop withdrawal process that is currently underway, an initiative that was actually negotiated in the Status of Forces Agreement before President Obama took office.

"The reduction in U.S. forces that is under way right now is…largely the continuation of the policy that President Bush had set in place when he negotiated the drawdown schedule with Prime Minister Maliki at the end of 2008," said Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, quoted by Fox News.

When asked how the administration could take credit for an agreement that was signed before their tenure, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that Obama’s political pressure, as a then-candidate, helped to implement the withdrawal accord.
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  • JeffH

    In Biden’s case, I would say he’s had tremendous “suckcess” when it comes to Obama.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I know I can always come to this site and find an intelligent(?) and insightful (?) comment.

    • Harold Olsen

      Well, as that great philosopher Jerome Horwitz once said, “If at first you don’t succeed, keep on sucking till you do succeed.”

      • buckneked

        Why were we there to begin with? Was it hidden weapons of mass destruction? Was It Al Qaeda ? Was it because Hussein tried to kill Bush senior? Was it worth all the lives lost Both American and Iraqs?

        • JeffH

          Why don’t you explain it so we all know!

        • George E

          Here’s a pretty good narrative from the conservative point of view explaining why the US decided to take out Saddam Hussein in the “second” Iraqi war.
          http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

        • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

          Well lil Buckaroo, why don’t you ask madam Sec. of State Clinton what the reasons for going into Iraq were? She believed the WMD’S were there, and they were! So did all of America. Of course NOW all the liberals and Bush blamers deny it. What do you think nerve gas is Buck? Saddam used it to kill thousands of Kurds (his own frickin people) in the North.

          Very convenient rationalization, for her to say she never did support the war! You ask about Al Qaeda? She also mentions Al Qaeda is in Iraq in her speech. What cha thinkin now Buck?

          Clintons words:”In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

    • derVenerschnitzel

      Well, they certainly don’t have much else to crow about… they make it up as they go. Obviously there are some who want to believe so badly, anything will do.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        How is killing 1,000,000 Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9-11 and bankrupting our economy in the process considered a success?

        • Michael J.

          Joe,
          I don’t know, just ask Joe Biden, He just took credit for things that you mentioned.

        • David

          Joe, by knocking one domino out of the line, that’s how. And I believe the current admin is busting our deficit, by triple, not for the war but to take care of his peeps…..suck a$$ unions.

        • old white guy

          matyh is not your stong suite is it?

          • old white guy

            spelling would seem not to be mine

        • Cel

          I don’t think it is the “success” you have the problem with…

          it is the war.

          Those people in Iraq have freedoms now that they did not have before.

          Freedoms that you enjoy.

          Freedoms that my 3 grandsons help you keep.

          You sir just want to argue about the war…like I said not success.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          Actually, we killed about four million of them because of 9-11. They killed three thousand of us. They don’t have to like us, they just need to fear us. Congoleeza Rice said that when she was Secretary of State. Sharp, classy lady. I admire her so much.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        If [the Obama] administration wanted something to crow about, all our troops would be home now.

        • SiliconDoc

          Oh geee, are we past the 6 month promise of the Oliar already ? Maybe, uhh…err. uhh uh uh uh uh he meant 12 months or 18 months ?
          LOL
          After the bugout you can expect the libtard msm to report a perfect new Iraq country that is finally free in and of and for itself, except for, unfortuantely, the 30,000 troops Oliar, responsibly and with deep regret, had to leave there to keep cleaning up GWB’s mess.
          Yep, other than billions stoeln BushCheneyBurton and the other right wing paramilitary death squads that won’t be reigned in for years( since they can’t stop their murderous spreeful fun so saith the msm ) the msm will tell us Oliar created a great and wonderful nobel peace prize success of pure democracy that in many cases to be cited functions better than the USA that the evil necons delivered to us all recently.

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            That rant made no sense whatsoever. Learn how to articulate, already.

          • Stephaan

            Well Jessica, I understood the “O’LIAR part ;-)
            Obummer, Nobama, & Nobomba are getting kind of old. We needed a new nick.
            As far as Condalisa Rice, you are spot on! That lady has more class than Mr. O’Liars wife will ever have! mrs. O’Liar has made such a non-impression on me with her lack of class, that I can’t even remember her name right now. lol

            As for Joe Kissup giving O’Liars administration credit for Iraq? All I can say is Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
            Kiss his pooter some more Joe!! ;-)

        • Allan

          He might brought the troops home if he could, but he KNEW that was unrealistic. It was pure campaignspeak to get the votes of those against the war. He knew if the progress in Iraq was undermined, he would be blamed for all the money and lives lost. Much safer to take credit for the surge now…credit for opposing the surge and for the success of the surge. What a guy.

    • Warrior

      I do admire the above father/son picture of these two nincompoops.

      • SiliconDoc

        Looks like obama is admiring joe’s privates as he strokes out another favor.

      • Cel

        Then you must have really loved the one today with Obama giving his speech.

        Biden stood there grinning like a jackass every time Obama praised his administration for the great job they have done creating jobs.

        (too bad Evan Bayh just told the world yesterday that if he went into business and created one job for America,it would be more than Congress did last year)

        Biden had a bulls eye in the middle of his forehead.

        I could not figure out if it was a target for Cheney or what.

        **

        • Warrior

          That’s gooood stuff!

  • s c

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Biden. Is this the same third-rate comedian who whizzed and moaned about us being in that part of the world? Now that Obummer is the new White House brat [AND HE WILL FIND WAYS TO KEEP US THERE], it’s peachy keen dandy for us to be there. HYPOCRITE!
    If someone cornered mouth-flappin’ Joe, I suppose he’d say if Obummer was prez before GB, America would have been better off because Obummer would have done it right ‘way back then.’
    YOU LOUSY, STINKING, HYPOCRITES! You wouldn’t buy or get or have ethics or leadership if it was sold at WalMart.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I believe if President Obama or even Kerry had been president instead of George Bush we would not have invaded Iraq and we would be on a much better footing in Afghanistan now (if not already out). We would not have wasted over 3,000 brave American lives in Iraq, we would not have scarred (physically and mentally) tens of thousands more American soldiers, and we would not have killed or maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Forgive us.

      President Obama is working to get the United States of America out of Iraq, just as he promised. It is just taking longer than he optimistically thought it would.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        4 comments in and your already off topic. Obiden is taking credit for actions that both him and his boss opposed. Obama voted against the war and the build up that later solved most issues. Then there was Dirty Harry Reid who proclaimed that the war was lost. These bums have had an effect on the economy like turning off a light switch. Foreign policy bowing and kissing up has produced squat. Can’t figure out what to do with a terrorist who has admitted guilt and requested to have his sentence carried out. (What are they trying to kill him with, old age?) In spite of a majority can’t pass health reform, cap & trade dead, can’t even get the Olympics to come here. Goes to campaign for 3 fellow dems and all three loose. It’s desperation time for them. latching on to anything and everything that may help save them just like the last outreach of a drowning man. Kind of ironic when you think about it but Obama the mortal may meet his end drowning in the water he once walked on.

        • Doc Sarvis

          It is hard to understand a topic when it is based on a partial quote from the Vice President. I did not see the Larry King Live interview so the context of his partial quote is very important to understanding the statement. I don’t jump to conclusions.

          • Jana

            Doc,
            That is what happens when you try to talk about things you don’t know about. I did see that and couldn’t believe my eyes or ears. He thought it was something he and Obama could take credit for. You know the old adage lie often enough and everyone will believe it, however we are all aware of their tricks and their lies.
            Shame on them!

          • Joe H.

            Doc Sarvis,
            We would be on better footing in Afghanistan or already out?!?!?!?! Yeah Wright! We would have insurgents coming from both Pakistan as well as Iraq. Real smart move to make!!!

          • Larry D. Crumbley

            Hello,
            Hello DOC SARVIS get your head in gear this guy only makes partial sentences and then he makes statements that are so false, and misleading even a child can see he is lying through his teeth. Please wake-up, and smell what he is trying so hard to do, and that is re-write history. Are you going to make comments in favor of what this fool is saying? Maybe we could have put more monies into Afghanistan and maybe turtles could fly also, but the fact still remains we now have a partner in the fight on terror in the new Iraq, and it does not have a thing to do with this administration at all okay DOC. It remains to this day a victory in the war on terror to the last President George W. Bush. I know you might not like that, BUT IT IS THE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD ALMIGHTY.

            Thanks,
            Larry C.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Iraq was not in the war on terror until well after we invaded the country. There was no terrorist threat in Iraq. Our invasion there was a terrible political blunder.

          • Rocketman

            Hay Doc, you (words removed for offensive content).

          • Doc Sarvis

            What a great(?) come back. I must say, where do you get your material?

          • jim

            Doc, You claim there was no terrorist threat in Iraq. Please explane what the training camp for Hamas and Hezbola was then. Palistinian terrorists were being funded and suported by Sadam.

        • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

          Hello! It obviously works very well for the Democrats through the years!
          Isn’t it strange that the very rich and the very poor both tend usually to be Democrats! Isn’t it also even more strange that most of the brilliant minds and the lower intelligence minds tend to be Democrats too? People are strange, aren’t they?

      • Harold Olsen

        And there’d have been more 9/11 type attacks. When it comes to defense, I wouldn’t trust a Democrat to protect a child from a school yard bully.

      • Dan

        Obama is grasping straws, Biden biting at the opportunity to say a kindness about his boss. Always nice to take credit for someone else’s objectives (in this case Pres Bush) So THIS is his great accomplishment since taking office? Geeez I thought it was his “Around the World Apologetic Tour”

      • Chuck Bear

        We all need to look back Bush removed Saddam Hussein from power and freed the people of Iraq which needed to be done. Yes it cost a lot of american lives and money, but we need to remember freedom is not free and the world is now a safer place to live becuase of GWB. No WMD were found, ture but freedom rings a little lounder in Iraq and its people are now free, that is more important then finding WMD so the Iraq war wasn’t for nothing and alot of people are better off today then if Saddam Hussein remained in power. Just ask an Iraq citizen.No GWB wasn’t perfect but he got the job done. Also I don’t think Obama or Biden have the balls to do what G.W Bush did. So I think Bush did the dirty work for Obama. Will see when it comes time for Obama to face off with the nuts in Iran remember Iran is building nukes and rockets. Lets face it Biden acts like a drunk old man shooting his mouth off and Obama’s like a young boy still wet behind the ears. So I have to ask the american people hows hope and change working out for you? Do you have a job? do you have health care? do you have a futrue? Are you better off now then you were a year ago?Remember when Obama was running for office he said our lifes wouldn’t be like this if he was elected into office he was going to fix it all and Washington was going to change the world. Yeah right, hold on people we have three more years of this crap God help us all.

        • Cel

          Chuck I agree with you.
          My 3 grandsons all wanted to go help the Iraq people. and they have no respect for his President. They said that when Bush was in …they knew he backed them. Obama said a lot of things when he wanted votes and we now know he lied to us.

          I see all these connections with the Islam world and it is frightening. He seems to always protect the Muslims. When I saw the picture of Obama and Michelle at the Convention with Louis Farrakhan I could not believe it, it’s probably still online….now this new guy ‘Rashad Hussian, he was at the same convention…he is on his staff and in a new position from first instated.

          I just believe each person he has put in place is just a piece of the puzzle…. in the way he wants to “transform” America.

          I watch how easily he tells his lies….this is something he has done all of his life…..no integrity….

          Can’t wait to vote …

          **

      • Ken

        Well, there you go! This mentality is what has gotten us in this mess. I don’t see how a body can be so blind , I guess you did not have anyone killed in the 911 attacks or have any compassion for anyone that has. War has been in existance since the begenning of time and so has evil. I guess you will not wake up until these devils come into your bedroom window. it is easy for you to make comments and you have a right to your views.This is not a question of whether you or anyone else is right or wrong but we are in more danger than most may think. These people are infiltrating our country, they are your neighbors, merchants and they have thirty two training camps in this country and at this moment planning your demise and all politicians are going about business as usual playing the blame game.
        The mentality seems to be that we are sitting in a safe zone in the U.S. and we are exempt from any harm because we are such a spoiled society and the reason that we are so spoiled and blind is because we have had these young men and women die on the battle field around the world to keep us safe and I am so thankful for our brave young people. Whether all these wars are necessary or not, we would have to have a crystal ball but it has happened and we can’t go back and change that but one thing is for sure , remember you are still free and are free to express your opinion and we have enemies amoung us that we haven’t experienced yet, laying in wait to seperate your head from the rest of your body and we sit around and blame someone just to express a personal opinion. I hope that you have that freedom in the future but your mentality is to lay down and let the steam roller run over you and you don’t even know it is coming, well if that is what it takes to remove the blinders but it may be a little late. Biden and Obama are taking credit for anything good and blaming anyone else for the problems, whom cares who is to blame , lets find someone that will take responsability and fix it before we find ourselves in a mire that we can’t get out of, we just may be there already.

      • Ken

        BS, Doc, you should be in politics, mybe Obama will make you a Zar. Have you applied?

      • Father Martin

        You are so clueless in everything that you say as well as believe. The war we are in you will never understand. So why even make a point about it.

      • Ken

        Doc, I noticed that at the begenning of your sentence was ” I believe”
        Who cares what you believe, your opinion is as worthless as anyone else. Knowledge and facts only matter!

      • Jackie

        I find it interesting that the left constantly complains about human rights abuses but criticizes the removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime who murdered over 180,000 Kurds, who along with his sons had torture and rape rooms, and who oppresses his people for numerous years. Yet they send there representatives to D.C. to push intervention into Darfur where the same horrors are taking place.

      • SiliconDoc

        More likely the USA would have been blown apart 3 times more like on 911 by now with olibtard and the tree hugging bed wetting crybaby give peace a chance libs.
        The only thing keeping us safe so far is the already established security, which no doubt the libidiots are destroying as we speak.

      • David

        Doc, if either kerry or obama had been in charge we would all be wearing diapers on our heads right now! Kerry is a bigger waste of space than Biden.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          David, that was an hilarious post. You remind me of those bitter old Swift Boat Veterans with deep pockets and long grudges who came out of the woodwork back in the 2004 election and beat the living sh** out of John Kerry.

      • old white guy

        ya you’d just have husssien putting money and arms against the troops

      • George E

        Doc,

        This article explaining why we went to war with Iraq takes exception to the notion that your Democratic heroes wouldn’t have taken us to war if they’d been President.
        http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

    • Larry D. Crumbley

      Hello,
      My friend I like your comments but they would not even be good enough to buy it at Wal-Mart because they are elitits, and that being so theya re also progressives and as such they only think about thinks if they can get the credit for something good that someone else has done in such is the case with Joe-(WHICH WAY DID THEY GO)-Biden. Never confused just lost in outer space most all the time. Also getting into vehicular accidents seem to run in his inner circle, and that goes to show you he is rubbing off on his driver.

      Thanks,
      Larry C.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        I bought a metal storage rack at Wal-Mart just last week. When I pulled it out of the box, I realized that it was probably some beer cans just a few months ago. Flimsy piece of cr*p. Those Chinese slaves rippped me off again!

    • Rocketman

      Hay Doc Sarvis, you are (words removed)

      • Doc Sarvis

        I say again, where do you get such a biting vocabulary? I am impressed.

  • Harold Olsen

    The Obama regime refuses to give Bush and Cheney credit for anything. But then, that is the way the left works. They take credit for things they had no part in and even tried to stop and when they screw up it’s always someone else’s fault. Take the credit and deny responsibility!! There’s one left-wing group who even blames Bush and Cheney for the Oklahoma bombing. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t that happen on Clinton and Gore’s watch?? Oh, silly me! Bush and Cheney knew they would be the next president and VP and wanted Clinton and Gore to look bad. That must be it!

    • Joe H.

      Harold,
      No, no no! They hired the dude!!!!

    • Cel

      Harold, Bush nor Cheney need anyone to give them anything.

      Neither are running for anything.

      Have you really watched Cheney? When this guy speaks, it is like E.F. Hutton….man, this man could debate anyone…when he debated during the elections he was great….that is why the Dems hate him…did you know that the White House discovered Saturday that Cheney was going to be on Sunday T.V. and they sent Biden out also…what does that tell you……”they fear that man”

      As for Bush……..look at the way that man and his family treated the Obama family before Obama came into office….they invited the Obama girls and Michelle over….put baskets of gifts in their rooms …so kind in every way….this is the people they are.

      Do you remember what the Dems did to the White House before Bush and Laura moved in? They had to get painter and repairmen to do work on the interior…..what a contrast.

      No, Bush nor Cheney need anything………they have the respect of the people who know them….and I have a feeling that means much more to them than credit for anything.

      • Stephaan

        Cel,
        You are right on with your assessments on both transitions at the white house. The entire Bush family showed the greatest respect towards the Obamas. This just shows the difference between a family HAVING CLASS, AND ONE HAVING NONE LIKE THE CLINTONS’.
        One thing you forgot was that Hillary stole furniture and dishes from the white house and air force one! Now there’s some “class” for you! When she was caught and had to return them, the only excuse Hildebeast could think of was “oh I thought they were mine to take” Yeah RIGHT! The Clinton transition team also stole all the “W”s off the computer keyboards and typewriters, and pretty much trashed the place.
        When I think of class and integrity, I think of Mrs. Bush stepping off of air force one, or any other time she was in public.
        When I think of NO class at all I think of the photo of mrs. Obama stepping off a.f.1 in cutoffs, and looking like a hippie reject from Haight Ashbury.

        This last line in your post says it all, so I wanted to repost it, and add that even people who don’t know them personally feel the same respect for them because of the class and integrity that they show.

        (The Bushes) they have the respect of the people who know them….and I have a feeling that means much more to them than credit for anything.

  • Robert

    At this point I don’t care what any politician says, whether democrat,republican or independent. The success in Iraq is the result of all our brave military people serving in the armed forces and those who gave the ultimate sacrafice for our country. I spit on any politican who has the nerve to claim credit. And I’ll always say thank you to any soldier for what they are doing for me and my country. So shove your bragging where it will do some good you lousy politicians.

    • s c

      Robert, RIGHT ON! Every time a politician screws up (regardless of which party is involved), nail the rotten #&@*!^&@! And every time an apologist tries to whitewash an issue, blast them at the same time.
      Call a spade a spade. If they don’t like it, give them a jar of vaseline and tell them what to do with it! People who worship at the altar of hypocrisy are fair game for whatever happens.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      I agree with the post, but in the end there will only be one winner and it will not be what many people have ever imagined to be the real truth and these many, many peoples probably even will wish that it had not happened that way!

  • Ino Martin

    Biden is soooo dumb!
    You guys campaigned on Afghanistan and even called it the good war,why skip that to Iraq when it will make you an obvious liar!
    Well there is no sucess there!
    Welcome to the white house!Campaign is over guys ,do your jobs!

    • Dan

      I think Biden just putters around in an alcoholic stupor most of the time. 10-1 the first drink of the day at 9am is a martini.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Barry and Joe like to blame the Bush administration for just about everything, taking no responsibility for their decisions, unless they think something will make them look good in the eyes of America.

    It is time to vote in new people and hopefully boot out the corrupt ones!

  • thefedupamerican

    Biden is a fool. They should close him in his office and shut the door. Obama is a socialist. WE the People should show him the door in 2010.

  • Joe B

    Hi,Biden a libber,no surprise.Is he not a lawyer??To many of those in politics,no offense.Regards.Joe

  • gaetano

    hello Joe, you gotta go ,mio.myo. Remember that song?

  • Snowbird In New Hampshire, USA

    Joe, show us Obama’s true birth certificate not his fake birth certificate.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      C’mon, Snowbird, enough with that birth certificate nonsense. Obama could be the bastard son of Satan, born on the third moon of Saturn, and it wouldn’t make one bit of difference. We’re stuck with him. Deal with it.

      • Dylan

        NOT stuck with him if the judge makes him produce the REAL ONE that actually means something. You know, the long form B.C. complete with birthplace, and signature of delivering doctor, as opposed to the short form rag from Hawaii that ANYONE who shows up before the registrar can get no matter where they were born. The one Oliar shows online is one of those.

  • Norm

    Well I don’t believe anyone has achieved success in Iraq, or ever will.

    We still have over 100,000 American military plus God knows how many paid American contract mercenaries. Iraq has a weak government, that’s not particularly pro US. The majority of Iraqis want the US out and, in fact, hate the US. We have wasted billions upon billions of dollars and suceeded only in destroying Irans worst enemy.
    When the US leaves, I predict a civil war, that will result in a Islamic regime which is friendly with Iran and totally anti American.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Not to mention the kill numbers ( thousands of American soldiers and 100s of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens).

      • Ken

        Have you checked your Ancestry? There may be a little Biden in there some where.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Just proud American, thank you.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Norm, you may not want to believe this but the bible actually says that in the latter days “Israel” will completely destroys “Esau,” “Jacob’s” (Israel’s) half-brother, which most certainly must include Islam! PS: The bible also actually says that the name “Israel” was given to Joseph’s children “Ephraim” and “Manasseh” and that in the latter days that Judah would call itself “Israel” but not in truth and righteousness! Great Britain is Ephraim, although does lose their end-time protection, probably because of implanting a false line of David as their kings! However, Manasseh (The USA)is protected in the latter days. Well, at least 12,000 of them! But it also is evident that besides gentiles, there is at least 12,000 each of the different tribes of Israel in America marked to be saved! Ephraim, as said earlier are not (Great Britain)and Dan (Ireland) are not saved at this time; probably, because they first came to America as Jesuits because no Roman Catholics were allowed citizenship in America before the Civil War!

      • phred

        Why in hell do some of y’all have to try to promote your $%*$%( bible and religion on EVERY thread here? I doesn’t matter if we are talking about recipes for bread, somebody, usually several somebodies have to make it a %&((^%((^&&)^%$%##@#%@ reilgious argument!
        Can we have a discussion where logic, etc. are extant, and not try to “prove” something with quotes from books of mythology?

        • jim

          Phred, Why are you so afraid of a “myth”?

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          Phred, ain’t that the truth? Everywhere you go on the Web, you can’t avoid those bible-thumpers. They try to shove it down your throat.
          Your relationship with God (or Her, or Them, or Whatever you believe in) is your own personal business. Why can’t they accept that and just leave you alone?

          • Blue

            Jessica,

            Yeah, you go girl!! Who ever heard of “Freedom Of Speech”?!! Now shut them up! ^o)

          • coal miner

            Jessica,

            You are right.If I want to listen to that religious bullSh**t,I would find it at some church.

        • coal miner

          phred,

          Religion,
          Are you kidding? You just log into the Longview State Mental Hospital in Ohio.Everytime we let our guard down,these nuts have a field day with our computers.I think we are going have to take their toys away.They will behave or else.

          • JeffH

            old king coal miner, You just answered a question I’d been wondering about for some time. Do you remember when you were admitted to that institution?

      • Liberals stink this place up!

        Victor;
        Norm doesn’t care, he’s either an atheist, or a muslim! So are phred,jessica, blue, and coal miner!

  • http://YAHOO ALBA10

    When will the Osama oops, Hussain Obama administration stop taking us for fools who believe everything they hear?

    • Robert

      When they’re thrown out of office.

    • David

      In November 2010!

  • BILL S

    Makes more sense to listen to “Norm Crosby” than either Biden or Obama.

  • BILL S

    you do not have to appologise for slip, word spell on my e-mail always changes Obama to “Osama” anyway!

  • http://hubpages.com/hub/Warmings-a-Hoax-But-That-Doesnt-Explain-Mr-Freeze Daverino

    “Say it ain’t so Joe!” Could be the title of a thousand page book quoting his mis-quotes. But did you hear the latest?

    After the Opening Ceremony at the Olympics he met with the team and he actually said, “He couldn’t believe how courageous they were for risking failure and humiliation in front of millions of people!”

    I guess in 2years, 9months and 16 days, when this socialist experimentary period is over, we know that Joe won’t be hitting the Motivational Speakers tour?

    • Tim

      I heard that too, and thought what a lousy thing to say about someone that has spent so much of their life to get to the Olympics, only to fail in front of millions.

      Biden is such a buffoon. He is nothing more than a “good ol Uncle Joe from next door” that might help take your Mother’s trash out once a week, but beyond that, no one in the neighborhood really takes him seriously. He’s the opposite of the slick talker BO, that the campaign needed to touch base with us commoners.

      He really does not think before he says anything. Like the wheelchair guy that he told to stand up during one of his campaign rallies. Oops…again.

      • Michael J.

        Tim,
        This administration was created in the image and likeness of the TV sitcom “The Jeffersons” in which all the white folks were stupid.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          At least George Jefferson had a dry cleaninig business. He was one of those people who “make America work”. That TV show inspired me when I was little.

          • Liberals stink this place up!

            Ha Ha Ha Ha.. if the Jeffersons tv show so easily inspired you, it is now clear that you and the rest of the liberals like you are in real trouble.

    • Rocketman

      Right on Daverino

  • susan

    What truly amazes me that nobody has called out either Obama or Joe Biden on their obvious hatred of George Bush. They will continue to take credit for the prior administrations accomplishments and blame them for everything else that doesn’t go their way. Obama has divided up his responsibilities under so many Czars that if something goes wrong. It’s once again, not his fault. As for Joe the buffoon, maybe a job as court jester? Joe and obama deserve each other, neither could tell the truth if it was written on a teleprompter or happening right in front of them. This Administration is so twisted….We are now the laughing stock of the world!…………

    • Norm

      susan
      What prior administrations accomplishments are you referring to?

      • Michael J.

        Norm,
        What I think Susan is refering to is, the liberating of 25 million Iraqis, the removal of Saddam Hussein (hey, I just realized he’s got the same name as our president) who was single handedly responsible for the deaths of more Muslim’s than any other one man in Middle East history. Another one of the war’s results was the creation of a fledgling democracy and ally that effectively split the hard line Muslim dictatorship nations right down the middle.

        And don’t forget those pesky WMD that the Russians removed before we got there in a convoy that stretched across the dessert from horizon to horizon and ended up in the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon.

        I’m not trying to read Susan’s mind, but I think that’s probably what she was talking about.

        • susan

          Thanks Michael, Exactly only you said it better!

        • Blue

          Michael J.

          One thing everyone continues to forget that WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) is an overall reference to destruction to both HUMAN LIFE as well as Property. The US went into Irag because Saddam had WMD that he used against his OWN people…. He GASSED hundreds of thousands of them. He also had the other variety which WERE discovered. I still have the VHS tapes I recorded of the videos, showing the discoveries.

          So to keep saying, they didn’t exist is for those people who do not wish to give George W. Bush ANY credit for ANY thing but just put there head in the sand and say it didn’t happen.

          Oh, I just had a funny thought…. Head, sand, Irag! :D

          • jim

            Hi Blue, I guess Norm and his buddys forgot about Chemical Ali. I,m sure his job entailed haveing to do something.

    • George E

      When does the campaigning end and statesmanship kick-in? Probably never with this group. I haven’t heard GW publicly criticize Obama’s administration once since he left office, although I sure bet he’d like to….. I believe GW is trying to be a statesman in service to the nation. I sure wish Obama would do the same.

      • Liberals stink this place up!

        George; The Osama Obamas, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Bawney Fwank, Chuck U Schumer, Charles Wrangle, the idiot from Sat. Night Live(can’t remember his name), & and a whole host of those other ignorant, laughable, liberal morons WILL NEVER have enough class to become STATESMEN. It takes waaaay more than what they’ve got in terms of character, honor, integrity, & honesty. They will never be more than lying, thieving politicians!

    • Michael J.

      Susan, I agree, bufoon. This guy couldn’t pour pee out of a boot, even if the instructions were written on the heel.

    • David

      Heck soon Michelle is going to pass Barry with the czar movement. I think she is up to 22 personal servants, all highly paid to kiss her butt!

  • clydeG.

    I’m thankful that I’m no longer in the military where I was under a sworwn pledge to defend my country from all enemies both foreign and “domestic”.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      clydeG: Once a soldier, always a soldier. If our country is in peril, you had best get off your ass and defend the USA. And if you are physically incapable of doing so, then you had best have a decent firearm at your side.

  • Victoria

    Kick out these fools! They are an embarrassment to our country!

  • susan

    clydeG….I can’t imagine what the military think of either of them. Obama is no Commander in Chief and doesn’t seem to show respect for the military except on Veterans Day. The military of this Country deserve a lot better than they are getting from this Administration. At least George Bush got a Heros welcome every time he visited the troops and he would personally thank them and pray with them. It’s such a tragedy that the enemy of the American people first and foremost seems to be it’s own Govt. Thank you for your service and God help all of us!

  • perry

    You guys are total lunatics to the hilt.

    • JeffH

      perry, can you elaborate a little more on your comment?

      • http://www.NRA.com Dartanian

        Nope, that’s about the extent of perrys vocabulary. He’s an ACORN employee and still waiting for the Osama Obama FREE education that he was promised

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I’m not an Obama fan at all, especially in the diplomatic arena, but he does appear to be fighting a better war than Bush did! They even recently captured the 2nd highest terrorist on the Terrorist ruler-ship list since 2001! Otherwise, agreed, Obama is destroying our economy, probably because of his deal made to become President with Lucifer, the present ruler of this world!

    • American

      When you say, “They even recently captured the 2nd highest terrorist on the Terrorist ruler-ship list since 2001!” who are you talking about? Obama and Biden didn’t capture anyone, our soldiers who went in risking their lives for us captured him. This was Bush’s war on terror and Obama and Biden were against it from day one and voted accordingly even though there have been many successes although some dems will says otherwise. No matter how hard Biden tries to make us think this is Obama’s success the world will never fall for it. Well, maybe those who still have their heads in the sand and only come out to hear what wonderful things the messiah is doing for them by way of the MSM. You have dems out there saying you “can’t rewrite history” and then appear on TV shows trying to do that very thing.

    • JeffH

      Victor L.B.. Obama ain’t fightin’ this war and Obama didn’t capture anybody!

    • phred

      Sorry, Victor, but Masso O wasn’t anywhere near Afghanistan when they captured Mr. #2—that was our troops that did that. Masso O was too busy working to entrench Communism into what USED top be the most free nation on the planet.

  • Paul C

    As someone who served in both Afghanistan and Iraq and who retired from the military in Jan. 2009, just 10 days before this lying, hypocritical fool and the Marxist he reports to took office, I can categorically state that NOBAMA had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with our withdrawal schedule from Iraq. As has been pointed out by others, the timetable was negotiated by President Bush in the SOFA between the two countries.

    Once again, OBAMA and goofball BIDEN lie, twist, distort, deceive, rewrite, restate and in every way possible obfuscate the real truth.

    The American people deserve better, but quite honestly also deserve what they got because there were many, many people raising the alarm prior to the 2008 election. The net result is elections DO have consequences and in this case the unfortunate consequence was the election of this nation’s most radical, anti-American, un-qualified and incompetent President in recent memory. Obama makes Jimmy Carter look good and that’s not much of a compliment.

    I hope the voters stomp the crap out of the Socialists in the DEM Party this fall and that Nobama is ousted in 2012. This guy and the thugs he brought with him to DC is a threat to the liberty and security of every American.

    • American

      I couldn’t have said it better PauL!!! The only thing I can add is that we need to make sure that “organizations’ like ACORN are far away from anything related to elections so that we don’t get thousands upon thousands of non-qualified votes again. You know, people who are really deceased, people who vote 15-20 times, unregistered voters, etc. And most importantly, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to our great nation and continue to pray for who serve knowing that each day may be their last that they may come home safely as you did.

    • George E

      I’ll stand up and salute those words. Thank you, sir.

    • susan

      I also want to Thank you, What are servicemen are doing for our Nation takes great courage. .What are the other soldiers saying over there? Do they believe the President is there for them or are they fighting with their hands tied? I blink back tears every time a soldier and his buddies walk into a Restaurant that I may be having breakfast with my children.I am so proud!

      • Claire

        Then, the next time you see soldiers in a restaurant–pay for their meals. I have.

  • Rocketman

    What can be said about this current administration. It is scarey. Bush responded to 911. Left wing argument about Iraq is a laugh as they were the largest dictatorship in the middle east. Chemical warfare, murder and support of Osama. How about Desert Storm? Remember Sadam’s wife telling the story of her husband giving Osama money when they met at Sadam’s house. Blame whoever you want but all this whould have happened anyway after 911. It started long before that. I hope Americans are aware of the danger we face in the coming years. Nice self credit Joe but that war was over for a long time before your administration had any military influence. What are you going to do about Iran? Keep sending love notes.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I think you are another one who is being scared by conservative talk. Conservatives get frightened so easily. Anyway, Bush did not respond to 9/11, he used it and other lies to invade a country that had little if anything to do with terrorism. He diverted resources from the real fight and ended up making a larger terrorist threat than existed in the first place. Not to mention the warnings of the 9/11 attack that he ignored.

      • Ken

        Doc, I am really amazed at your extensive knowledge, I am going to take a second look at the conservatives as it seems you really have it together. I am sure that you have did extensive research, been there , done that. I really think that you would make a great Zar.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Thanks, I’m not interested in being Czar. I’m an American.

        • Stephaan

          Ken,
          The only “extensive” research the Doc has done recently was a search on the internet to find out the significance of leaving a pair of forceps, 3 sponges, and an empty vodka bottle in his last patient… ie: don’t expect a lot of “political” knowledge from him. ;-)

          • Doc Sarvis

            Pretty significant it turns out.

        • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

          Yes Doc, significant, but the rattling and clanking is hardly perceptible when the sponges occasionally get stuck between the forceps and the vodka bottle. Joe Biden would write the incident off as a win/win and claim it as an “achievement” for the Osama administration! ;-)

      • JeffH

        Hey, whats up Doc Sarvis. Can you give us a little perspective on Adolph Hitler while you’re displaying your patriotism?

        • Doc Sarvis

          Adolf Hitler was a horrible man. Hope that helps you.

      • Michael J.

        Whatzup Doc,
        I’m a conservative and the only thing that frightens me is that people like yourself actualy beleive the things that you post. Countless generations of American Patriots have given their lives for your right to express your opinion. Those same Americans would respect your God given, unalienable right to be wrong also. Myself being a Christian, whenever I find my sense of patriotism being demoralized by others, tend to turn the other cheek and proclaim, “God bless that S.O.B.”.

        • Doc Sarvis

          I too, often give thanks for our military past and present. And I think it is a disgrace to them and to America to throw them into a fabricated war.

          • Michael J.

            Doc Sarvis,
            Is there any cause worth fighting for? Would you have us disban the military and bow to the mercy of our enemies in the the hopes that they will see fit to spare us? Maybe you would have us adopt the French appeasement policy of lining their streets with oak trees so that invading armies can march in the shade? Maybe you think we should follow Neville Chamberlain’s moves prior to WWII?

            Disgusting, if the war to liberate Iraq and remove Hussein and the threat of WMD and terrorist training camps was not worth fighting, then none are.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Iraq was not our enemy. There were no WMDs, no terrorist training camps. Saddam H. was a very bad man, but we ended up killing more of his people than he did in our invasion/war.

          • JeffH

            George E says:
            February 17, 2010 at 9:18 pm
            Read this. Maybe it’ll make you feel better about the Iraq war.
            http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

          • jim

            Doc, Hamas and Hezbolla had training camps in Iraq during Sadams Riegn. He also funded terrorists in Palistine. Before we went in U.N. wepon inspectors found artillary shells designed to carry binary nerve gas and Al Saoud missles. Both against the U.N. agreements. The fact that he gassed the Kurds and Iranian soldiers shows he did have some WMD’s.

        • Allan

          Liberals love to say they can support the troops without supporting the war. I was in the military in the Viet Nam era, and I experienced that returning soldiers were despised by the anti-war liberals then. What liberals don’t understand is by totally denigrating the mission of the troops, they undermine the MORALE of the troops, which they need to SURVIVE. Thus, I consider liberals to be responsible for some of the deaths in Iraq.

          • Doc Sarvis

            So I suppose we should let the politicians put our military (ours sons and daughters) in any situation they please whether it is in the interest of our country or not.

          • George E

            Doc,

            Of course not. Maybe it’s as much about how you object to the deployment as it is that you object. For instance, conservatives never, never accused our troops of acting unprofessionally in any of the deployments that Clinton sent them on. You see, the truth is that most of our military is made up of conservative-minded people. It’s been my observation that liberals generally don’t support our military or their mission.

      • Blue

        Doc S.

        Are you a REAL doctor? A Medical Doctor? I hope not! If you are, I’d like to know where your practice is so I will never accidentally go to you.

        You’re reasoning and comments are ludicrous, insinuating that in some way, George Bush was directly responsible for 911.

        It’s too bad that Doctors are not required to post their test scores in getting there Medical License, at their practice. If you ARE a REAL Dr., you must have JUST passed.

  • Downsized

    Joe Biden is an idiot,I said that when Obama named him his vp.Obama needed a token white guy in his entourage.I agree with you Rocketman to a point about Iraq and Afganastan. But ,I also believe that if this administration had been in power during 9/11 we would probably still be “negotiating” with Afganastan for them to turn over Binladen.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I really don’t think so, I think we would be speaking Farsi now.

  • http://Steviejoe.wordpress.com Steve

    God save us (literally) from shallow thinkers like “Doc Sarvis” who can’t understand why we are currently in Afghanistan. It’s been a cesspool of terror activity which, by the way, hosted the groups that engineered and carried out the 9/11 attacks against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Remember that dark September morning, Doc? This isn’t complicated, in fact, it’s so straightforward that the “we’re-smarter than-everyone-else” set, the “national-defense-ain’t-really-all-that-important” gaggle seem to keep missing it: you attack the United States, you die. That’s our government’s overriding RESPONSIBILITY. If it takes months, years or decades to address this outrage and ongoing threat properly, well, that’s a shame — but things are tough all over, aren’t they. Shrugging nationally at jihadist fulminations and walking away from what the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have brought on themselves would, in the long run, be the worst thing we could do. Every brave man or woman who has paid the ultimate price tearing into the Islamo-fascists and their abbettors has given his/her life in a noble cause. We spit on their memories if we listen to the short-sighted but trendy nostrums of the likes of Doc Sarvis.

  • Les

    Liberals take credit for things others do as easily as they take dollars from productive people And give to non productive people, for votes.

  • Justin

    I just hope that with this argument about “who did what?” we don’t lose focus that for the last several years, our government has been doing things like this. I don’t believe there is a politician left in our government that could tell the truth even if their life depended on it. The ones that I have listened to at conferences and on T.V. sound so idiotic, I swear, if breathing wasn’t an automatic response, they’d have suffocated at birth! All I am saying is, lets get rid of all the trash in Washington. New people in congress and senate, and, dare I say, TERM LIMITS ON BOTH!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, Doc Sarvis, anybody who would try to excuse any current politicians’ behavior, for any reason, is either really unbalanced or just a plain blind. But that is what is great about where we live, isn’t it? We can share negative agreements publicly about any issue, including government, but I must warn you, keep following the current leader, and that may soon cease to be.

    • http://www.NRA.com Dartanian

      Justin,
      Before you jump on the TERM LIMITS BANDWAGON read this below
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      Stephaan says:
      February 13, 2010 at 1:49 pm
      Bob;
      Voting out ALL incumbents is not such a great idea. The same goes for term limits!
      ex: We have a Democratic Rep. in my state that is NOT anywhere close to being your typical liberal Democrat! He is a Constitutionalist, and has been all of his political life. He has championed citizens gun rights, lower taxes, and smaller government ever since he’s been in congress.
      How could we EVER replace him, and WHY would we EVER want to try? Who would we replace him with? Replace him with some “UNKNOWN & UNPROVEN” lying politician who claims to be for the people blah blah, and then find out he was lying during his campaign as soon as he casts his first anti-American vote in congress? I DON’T THINK SO!
      I would rather keep voting for a conservative that has proven his political beliefs with his votes, because I have SEEN HIS VOTING RECORD, AND I KNOW HE SUPPORTS A FREE AMERICA!!
      A politicians voting record is PROOF of what, and who he is! Just look at obamas voting record, and then look at the lies he told during his campaign. If EVERYBODY had done their homework on obama, HE WOULD NOT BE P.O.T.U.S. The information was out there about obama, it’s just too bad that not enough Conservative Americans did their homework. The same thing happened in 2006 when the liberal socialists got control of congress.
      I SAY KEEP ALL THE GOOD ONES, AND JUST WORK TO GET RID OF THE BAD ONES, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD ACTIVELY CAMPAIGN FOR THE ONES YOU LIKE, AND AGAINST THE ONES THAT YOU DON’T WANT, AND START RIGHT NOW! Contact your questionable Reps. and Senators now, and tell them that if they cast one liberal vote before November, they will be looking for work the day after the election. Concentrate on the worst ones first.
      There are good and bad ones in all three parties. Getting rid of the bad ones is a big enough job in itself. Ousting all incumbents is counter productive, and a waste of valuable time and resources.

  • stelci

    Biden is a posterboy example of “it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think your an idiot, than to speak and confirm it”. This administration is an embarrassment.

    • susan

      stelci.. I’d like to see what you said on Billboards all over the Country. At least we could smile as we drive by

  • Marc Jeric

    How do they find them? The Democrats, I mean. Idiot after idiot, moron after moron, criminal after criminal. By that I mean:
    Carter (irresponsible idiot), Dukakis (mumbling cretin), Mondale (blubbering idiot), Clinton (disbarred felon), Gore (functional moron), Dean (crazed owner of abortion mill chain), Kerry (self-proclaimed phony hero), Edwards (small-time crook), Biden (see under Gore), Obama (Abu Hussein from Kenya), etc.

    • http://www.NRA.com Dartanian

      Marc;
      WHERE DO THEY FIND THEM?? These liberal socialists?

      It’s easy. They are the result of inbreeding: sister/brother, mother/son/ father/daughter, etc. Also both partners are either ignorant or moronic, with I.Q’s of less than 30. Does that clear it up for you? ;-)

  • Dr. Emory

    I can believe Biden said that … and he may believe it. But the worst is Larry King let him off the hook. Why are these idiots still loose. Biden was no different in Congress … but there were enough idiots in the Nation to vote for him and that unknown guy he hangs around with.

  • Myself

    Seriously?

  • George E

    I find it interesting that the Democrats initially supported both wars, then started falling out of line when the Iraq war got tough and it looked like a political opportunity to jump on Bush, claiming he got us into the Iraq war on a lie. They continued the public outcry against Bush, but however, did continue to vote for funding these wars. They claimed the Iraq war was a lost cause and couldn’t be won, and they did everything they could to keep Bush from changing strategies (surge) to win the war. Bush went ahead with this new strategy anyway, and finally did win, or at least reduced the violence to a degree that we could begin planning the withdrawal of our troops. Obama never has given the Bush administration any credit for what they did to bring the war to an end, but is now trying to take credit for Bush’s work. (I guess one could say that the fact that Obama has continued the Bush plan, is testament to the fact that he thinks Bush was doing the right things in these wars.) To me, this is incredibly unstatesman-like for Obama to do this. If he really wanted to win some Republican support for his programs, he needs to take advantage of the things he can to say something nice about them in public. This would certainly be one of those times.

  • Tom Hopper

    I do find it revealing that the greatest accomplishment of this O’dministration is 100% attributed to the Bush administration, which Joe and The Kenyan fought against, tooth and nail.

  • Ellen

    So many of you I totally agree with! I believe THE CREDIT of who did what absolutly belongs to those who were brave enough to fight for it, our Military and those of us who supported the actions!!! NOT LIERS that even open their lying mouths taking false credit to pat there own backs.

    If we did not have PRES. G. BUSH we probably would not be alive today! AT least he knew how to work and make decisions! WE felt safe, had JOB’S, had HOME’S, cars, $$. HE had guts and PROTECTED us. No he was not perfect, ARE you?

    YES WE need – Limits in Office (like you have to prove your capable to be hired before you get a job), CLEAN OUT Washington D.C. starting with the (?)pres RIGHT ON DOWN THE LINE!!!(not a training job with no experienc, except lying & swindling.) Now I have O,JB,NP,G,HR, and DOC plus many others I worry about. KEEP the dumb no thinkers away please! I will do my own thinking Thank-you. THINK before you VOTE and get them out and LETS get America back!

  • Gary

    What a Crock of Sh#t Biden…you Boob.

  • eddie47d

    There will never be victory in Iraq for the war was started under false pretenses.Neither President should take credit for a war that never should have been.I’m glad Saddam is gone,but that still doesn’t justify that war. Ask the 80,000 dead Iraqis how much freedom they have. Now there’s just a different group of people in power,trying to exclude those they don’t like. At the present time we can only hope to leave Iraq as stable as we possible can. It’s up to them to shape their own country and the destiny they want.

    • JeffH

      Just a reminder about who Saddam Husssein is and what he has done. The world seems to have a short memory when it comes to the Iraq war and it is so easy to demonize one side or another but let’s not forget what happened. The world is a better place without this tyrant. Regardless of how people view the current war in Iraq, and the on going internal struggles, let the blame be placed on the doorstep of Saddam.

    • George E

      Read this. Maybe it’ll make you feel better about the Iraq war.
      http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

      • JeffH

        George E, a revealing piece. Thanks, and all of the Bush haters should read this.

  • John J

    Biden is an admitted plagarist which means he is a liar and thief.

    Now he is again lying and attempting to steal. Lying about who deserves the credit, and attempting to steal the credit.

    Some crooks never learn.

  • Ellen

    WHO was going to clean out the pork barrel spending? WHAT happened? Look at our National debt NOW. Oh is B.O. going to pay that one for us, watch out he will make us pay for their hidden mistakes! Oh they were behind closed doors – blame Dirty Harry & N.P., they did it-O.B. only signed it. Who let the ILLEGAL’S in? IT started long ago & should not have EVER started!!! THAT is costing us BUNDLES! WHO IS distroying OUR Medical/Health, WHO is crossing the boarder long enough to give birth so we can pay for it? WAKE-UP! Why do we not have any-BACK-BONE?? Lye’s, greed, and more lye’s, No I can not say I am R.,D., or for any one I can not believe in! History is repeating it self, and the BO stench is enough to kill us all.

  • John J

    Doc reminds me of the gypsy fortune teller who stated to his client,”cross my palm with silver.” Unfortunately, (or fortunately) his client was the Lone Ranger— Poor gypsy, no longer in business.

  • Barbara N.

    Nothing like having Chicago mobsters run the country! These guys are
    all such crooks and liars, they’re actually beginning to believe
    themselves. Who’s going to clean up the mess when they’re ousted??!!

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      From what I’ve read and heard, Ronald Reagan did a good job of cleaning up Jimmy Carter’s ghastly mess. Maybe we’ll get lucky and find another president like that. I’m betting on Romney. I hope he runs again.

      • Claire

        I hope he runs too–in the other direction.

  • susan

    Norm…The surge in Irag that Obama and Biden fought against that they are now preening themselves over on it’s success. Also remember the last couple years the democrats had control of Congress in the Bush administration and that’s when everything went downhill fast.

  • susan

    Sarah Palin could seriously clean house, Get rid of all the old buggers sitting in Congress sleeping and put new blood in the arena. You should not get to keep your seat until you die like Kennedy. The last year he was pretty useless.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Right and don’t forget the crook Murtha. Mostly all Govt jobs have an age limit, local, state, and federal. Why isn’t it the same with Congress? Used to be 72, I don’t know what it is now.

      • susan

        Probably like the Pope; you get to die in office whether you show up or not.

    • phred

      Sorry, honey, but Sarah Palin should only be looked upon as a “Conservative” because she stands to the right of Obama—but so close she is STILL in his Marxist shadow. Take this from an Alaskan who has watched her destroy the states economy for the next 20-30 years, then cut and run! Why do you think Liberal McCain picked her as his running mate?

      • Michael J.

        Sorry Phred, but your veiws of Sarah Palin are not shared by a majority of Alaskans.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Is that old Klansman, Robert “sheets” Byrd, dead yet? What a walking cadaver. How old is he now, about 125?

      • George E

        Sorry, but I just can’t help LOL………thanks for the laugh.

  • eddie47d

    The Iraq War was about oil not freedom. We armed this country to the teeth in the 80′s and they took this weaponery and chemicals and declared war on Iran (900,000 dead there).Then Saddam turned against his own people. Hardly a stroke for freedom or stability for that region. We’ve been destablizing this area of the world for decades. Then we wonder why Iran hates us. If we want their oil so badly then we play by their rules for it is their country. If we don’t like their rules then find other sources to feed our oil addiction,stop this war madness.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Good post. A little honesty now and then is good for us.

      • Ellen

        How do you define Honesty? Just wondering.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Truthfullness, integrity, not deceptive. I could go on.

          • phred

            Please do, Doc. This is as close as I’ve seen you come to anything resembling integrity or honesty! But, could you actually try to DO these things rather than to quote Mr. Webster?

          • Doc Sarvis

            I do everyday. I’m not perfect but try to get better each day.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Doc Sarvis,

            But, then your integrity would be greatly deminished. Just saying.

            Fed Up Gal

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Really Eddie – How many barrels of oil have we gotten from Iraq? Just thought I would ask.

    • Hello?

      When and where are we getting oil from Iraq, we are not getting anything or any compensation from Iraq or Kuait. Remember this little country. I have an idea, WE THE PEOPLE have more power than any one in washington if we had the guts of a fly. I suggest that we get up a petition all across the country, kind of like a new election, get enough signatures and we will impeach the whole lot in Washington, if it were empty, I really don’t think that we would know the difference.
      Any idot could fix the economy without a lot of brain energy. We put high tarrifs on any product coming intio this country an reward any company with tax credits to build plants in this country. We could tap our oil reserves and supply more oil to the world than the whole middle east if these ignorant liberals and do godders and global warming idiots would shut up. The scientist and they are supposed to be trained in global weather patterns, tells us that we have nothing to do with it as the earth goes through cycles but we listen to the retard, Al Gore and I am sure that he has to carry a paper with him for instructions to operate his zipper. Maybe you could get old AL to send you a copy of his instructions.

    • Hello?

      By the way Eddie, where do you keep your horse tied, you realize that horses pass a lot of air and you know that is filling the world with ozone killling stuff. Oh, Have you heard anything lately about the hole in the ozone layer, looks like that blew over several years ago and so will the melting of the ice bergs but old AL will be counting all the money he is making all across the country and the idiots are eating it up, I think that we all should give up all the things we have that use energy and go back about seventy five years when we had to use a path to go to the bath room. Don’t YOU?

    • JeffH

      Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq from 1979 until 2003, has gained international notoriety for torturing and murdering thousands of his own people. Hussein believes he ruled with an iron fist to keep his country, divided by ethnicity and religion, intact. However, his actions bespeak a tyrannical despot who stopped at nothing to punish those who opposed him.
      http://history1900s.about.com/od/saddamhussein/a/husseincrimes.htm

    • George E

      Eddie,

      All we want with Iran’s oil is for them to be able to sell it in the open market freely without interference. That is what they want as well, I believe. Their supply in the market helps to keep prices down for consumers worldwide. It’s really that simple, and we don’t need to go to war with anyone to take possession of their oil supplies. On the other hand, if anyone attempts to interrupt the supply of oil to the market, we may take action to stop that kind of interference if things get bad enough, as when Saddam invaded Kuwait, took their oil off the market, and set their oil wells on fire.

    • Michael J.

      eddie47d,
      So where is all this oil that we got from Iraq?
      And so we at one time trusted and supported this guy until he turned into a maniacal dictator. Sound Familiar? I’ll give you a hint, the two I am thinking of share the same name.

    • George E

      Again, read this article. Maybe it’ll give you a more rounded perspective on the Iraq war.
      http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

    • Allan

      Why would we start a war thousands of miles away for oil when we could be drilling for it in our own back yard? If, as liberals like to say, G W Bush was in the pocket of big oil, wouldn’t he have done everything in his power to get local drilling and refineries going? Oh yeah, he couldn’t because liberals cordoned off our oil.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      The war in Iraq was all about securing the oil wells, pure and simple. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Even in the Bible, God told the Jews to go kill people and take their stuff. That’s the nature of the Human Condition.

    • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

      Yeah, all that oil we’re getting from Iraq must be why gas is a dollar more a gallon now, than in Dec. ’08 just a month BEFORE OSAMA TOOK OVER.
      All that Iraqi oil we’re getting must also be why gasoline went from $2.13 a gallon in Jan ’07 to over $4. a gallon after the liberal socialists gained their majority in congress.
      This is just ONE EXAMPLE of how the liberals are bad for the economy, BUT I DON’T SEE JOE OR OSAMA TAKING CREDIT FOR THAT!!
      The price of gas since 2006 has killed the economy where I live, and in a LOT of states across the U.S. We don’t all have mass transit, or live within walking, or biking distance from work.
      Take some credit for your parties effect on the economy Joe.

    • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

      If the IRAQ war was about OIL then where’s the frickin OIL eddie??
      We sure aren’t getting any! THAT RAT HOLE OF A COUNTRY SHOULD BE PAYING US BACK WITH OIL for the thousands of American lives lost, and the BILLIONS of dollars we spent over there getting rid of Saddam and his two equally evil sons. They should be sending us millions of barrels of FREE oil until the thousands of American lives lost are paid for (the price/value to be set by the families of the sons and daughters whos lives were sacrificed) and millions more barrels until the multi- billion dollars for the military effort is REPAID IN FULL!

      That’s about the second most ignorant statement I’ve seen on here. Check your facts before you post next time. You’re showing the ignorance of your liberal socialist party.

      Just a history question for you eddie. Who do you think set up the oil business in Iraq decades ago? If it wasn’t for the U.S. oil companies, that rat hole that’s known as Iraq would still be in the stone age! The only thing that got them into the 20th century was contracts with the American oil companies, that they subsequently reneged on. God, you liberals are so ignorant.

  • Snowbird In New Hampshire, USA

    What is the definition for TREASON………..

    • JeffH

      Barak Hussein Obama II…did I win anything?

  • susan

    If it was all about oil I believe we would have taken over the oil fields and be in charge over there, But no, we spent tax dollars rebuilding the country and educating it’s citizens. Training their soldiers and giving humanitarian aid.

  • http://aker@frontiernet.net David Akerson

    Let President Obama and VP Biden crow all they want because all of America knows they haven’t accomplished anything except to attempt to bankrupt the USA. It will not last as proved in Massachusetts when Senator Kennedy’s seat was lost to a Republican. Also lost some Democratic Governor jobs in two states. Thanks to President Obama and VP Biden the people will take America back when they vote for Tea Party/Republican candidates in the next elections. The People will WIN!!! Don’t forget Pelosi and Reid, they will be unelected also!!!!

    • susan

      They said on Fox news the other night that Pelosi’s job is pretty much guaranteed. Is that because she’s third in line for the Presidency? I know that’s why she stamped her foot and got a couple of Air Force jets to cart her and her friends around. Being third in line supposedly gives her that right. They should have just handed her a broom and say “Here you go Sweetheart!”

      • Ellen

        Susan, Right on! You speak words of honesty. Did you hear the amount of monies Pelosi spent (tax payer’s $)on Alcohol. Oh my, she has lotz of $$$ why does she not pay and cover her own swindling mess in Washington D.C. Why is she even in Wash.D.C.? California does’t deserve her either, they are already broke.

        I liked what you pointed out, “How we helped a Country build up their own home land, Education, and helped with their own police force. OIL?? I don’t think so!

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Pelosi’s not up for re-election until 2012. Until then, she’ll continue to be an expensive pain in the taxpayers’ a**es.

  • Sergeant Major

    ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT BOBBLE=HEAD BIDEN IS-”LOL”!!!!!!

  • Ellen

    Your view points have certainly lightened my day! Thank-You. I will LOL every time I see a broom and visualize Pelosi “On her Way” then Bobble Head – Biden. We need a laugh, so much stupidity running around not realizing their head is empty.

    We will come out of this Mess!

    • libertytrain

      Ellen – perhaps everyone ought to send her a broom. Though I don’t think she’d get the point.

      • JeffH

        Maybe, just maybe, she wouldn’t “fly off the handle” but instead just fly away.

    • American Citizen

      It would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous for our country.

  • Tim Y

    VP Biden was wrong with 13 of his so called facts before the election with his debate with Gov. Palin. He is so wrong here and now one has to wonder if there is any truth in the man at all. He and Al Gore must be good friends.

  • johnmeyer

    what a mickey mouse govt. no wonder the world thinks were stupid ,look whos in thecongress,senate,white house

  • chuck b

    the following is a dossier on our “caliph” if you tube hasn’t erased it yet!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlEbBZLzo0

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Joe needs to go on a diet. May I suggest the following:

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    (Guess “links don’t always show up. I repeat yet again:) Joe needs to go on a diet. May I suggest the following: “”, as offered here. http:www.Mediterranean Diet May Help Ward Off Dementia , as offered here.

  • American Citizen

    As soon as I heard this administration taking credit for capturing the Taliban 2nd in Command, I told my husband, “Our military is responsible for it, not this administration.” Obama even hesitated for weeks in giving our Commanders there the troops they need to get the job done.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Judy

    Everyone should check this website and respond after viewing http://www.understandingthesurge.com

    • George E

      Wow! This is a wonderful documentary. Thanks for sharing. It reminds me of another video I recently watched that suggests insurgents often create a state of anarchy like Al-Qaeda did in Iraq, realizing the people will become so distraught that they will beg the insurgents to govern them to stop the violence. I think we also saw that in South Vietnam and in many other countries. By injecting our troops into the communities, the people realize there’s an option to stopping the violence, supporting our troops and their local police. Now, it looks like we’ve actually got an effective strategy for defeating these dastardly terrorist acts. Great story worth watching and thinking about.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      And here in the Black Community, people laughed at us when we called Obama “that Islamic Manchurian Candidate”. A lot of them aren’t laughing anymore. People are waking up in a hurry.

      • George E

        Thanks for the feedback. I’m hopeful in years to come that we can win back a big part of the black community into the conservative camp again. From what I understand, many black Americans really do share our conservative ideals, but don’t trust conservatives to have their best interests at heart. I hope we can change that soon.

    • JeffH

      Judy, thank you.

  • Downsized

    Joe Biden……What can I say? The people in DC these days are seriously out of touch with reality.There is a long ugly list of untruths (LIES!) coming out of this administration.Example; When they say the so called “stimulus package” worked, it was their idea.When they say that bank excecs got millions in bonuses from it,it was the “previous administrations” idea. Hope and change? Transparency? Pelosi and Reid having closed door meetings almost daily and the media gives them a free pass.Liberals protesting GW by hanging him in effigy were expressing their “right to free speech”.Tea Party protesters that complain about out of control gov spending etc are labeled “racist haters and a threat to national security…….Whew!….I could go on and on and on but I’m exhausted and we’ve got three more years of this foolishness?

  • Rod

    ANYONE who believes ANYTHING GIBBS HAS TO SAY is blind deaf and dumb!
    Biden is so stupid he thinks the American people will believe anything
    the Radical left has to say. They just don’t get it! The American people are fed up with o-BUM-a’s Joe Biden, Palosi and Reid’s LIES!
    They LIE everytime they open their “elite progressive’s” mouth! Biden
    can’t even tie his own shoe laces! Everytime o-BUM-a turns a corner
    Biden breaks his nose!!!!

    • Blue

      Rod

      You know the phrase… How do you know when Obama is lying? His mouth is moving.

      Oh, I have a question. Barrack Hussein Obama. Since it’s spelled Obama, shouldn’t it be OH-BAM-A? Why is it pronounced Oh-BOMB-A? Maybe it’s because he’s AH… Bomb-er? Hey, maybe he’s a secret terrorist.

      Just tossing in some humor… or IS it?

  • Jack Nitka

    When the largest consumer of OIL in the world :US attacks the second largest producer of OIL in the world,Iraq; it certainly is all about freedom, democracy and helping other people. When Bush lied , lied and lied again, the bunch of dummies believed it all, no metter how insane the lies were. When Obama takes on ungreatfull job of fixing all the idiotic mess left by Bush, the clowns are raising hell, and try to blame it on him..oh well anyone dumb enough to vote for Bush twice, didn’t get any better , no metter how much damage to US economy, education, security, and finally the most important American Pride and Diginty did this low life Bush caused, they gona keep on trying to blame it on Clinton, Obama, or immigrants….sad

    • JeffH

      Jack Nitka, you wouldn’t be of eastern european descent, maybe Poland or the Ukrain? Gee whiz, it’s my understanding we aren’t getting any oil from Iraq. Have you ever heard of the mass murderer Saddam Hussein? I heard he supported and even assisted terrorist organizations before we ever attack Iraq. I’ve even seen many web articles that explained and supported those attacks, with the Congress blessing. Bush didn’t act alone nor was he only supported by the Republicans o this war. Seems to me that he had a bunch of support from the Dems also.

      • Jack Nitka

        No we are not getting it, but Halliburton is. Cheney(used to be boss of Halliburton) and the rest og the gang get lots of money for OIL stolen from Iraq and sold to Europe. Americans who were expecting to get cheaper oil ones they kill a few Iraqis are feeling guilty ….

      • Jack Nitka

        as for calling Hussein mass murderer and all this pictures, we consistantly forget about great financial support from US particularly guys like Cheney for Hussein, when US was trying yo buy him and use him against Iran We are also forgeting about crimes we committed against Iraq people after IIWW trying to steal their OIL(succesfully) for the first time. That was when Hussein became a hero defending his country from US occupation. In fact Russians did. That is why once Russia was gone suddenly it was possible to invade Iraq again and all we needed was a terrorist to justifie it. so we hired Saudi terrorist to justifie Iraq war..ha ha
        If we attacked every country which has a violent government…… not to mention that we are not a police of the world forcing people in democracy whether they like it or not, especially if they live in the middle of an OIL field.

    • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

      Hey Jack,
      If you didn’t like Pres. Bush, then you’re really not going to like our madam Secretary of State Hildabeast Clinton! Here’s some of the “support” from the Dems. that Jeff was referring to:

      Madam Clintons words:”In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

      Of course she lies NOW and says she didn’t support the war, but it looks to me like she did!

      Jack, your name seems Russian/Ukrainian, but your word usage and speech are more like Swedish, or Norwegian. Where are you from? Are you in the USA now? BTW my gf is Russian but she came here legally (legal immigrant) several years ago. She did not enter the U.S. illegally like all our Mexican “illegals” from the south. Those are the ‘illegal aliens, (not legal immigrants) that we have issues with.

      • Jack Nitka

        Of course Bush is not the only scam, but he is the one who is responsible. Talking about Clinton to justify Bushes crimes is very popular method of changing subject. Crucify me but I only see fascist (so called rep) and socialist (so called dem) in US now. Bush however killed lots of people for money and being a total retard destroyed more then I care to mention here. Yet as I said what he really destroyed was American Dignity. see, so it happens that all this pathetic justifications for war are being cherished in US only. Nobody in Europe believes all this hors…. about US helping Iraq. People laugh at this nonsense.
        Immigrants subject is a little different. I simply stated that they are being blamed for everything Americans did themselves:
        no illegal immigrant started illegal war, none cheated on mortgages, none destroyed US education system, immigrants did not destroy US economy. Americans did. But just as Americans are incapable to admit that war in Iraq was a simple crime and fatal mistake. They are also incapable to take any responsibility for destroying their own economy simply by electing goons into government.
        Yes I was born in Europe and yes I am so called legal immigrant, but neither of those makes me say that I don’t understand when immigration became legal or not. Immigration is a very fundament of US and calling it legal or illegal is modern joke design to shift a blame. Everything Hitler did was legal and most of what White did to Blacks was legal……..

    • John

      It is sad that you get your news from, CBS, NBC and ABC, the three largest Bush hating networks on the planet. If you are really interested in learning about the mess, go back to 2006. A significant event took place in both houses of congress, it is then, when everything began to unravel, and the bottom dropped out just in time fot the 2008 elections.

      • Jack Nitka

        I almost don’t watch TV. I have believed Bush was a fascist and openly creaticised him shortly after he was elected. I don’t quote propaganda. Ones in blue moon i watch TV and i also noticed FOX NEWS come out with such a nonsense trying to crawl in Bushes butt It made me laugh. My opinions, and please take them as such are the results of watching what is going on,history, life expirience and “always follow the money” rule. I was astonished when Bush got elected for a second time and in shame almost left US, country I have proudly lived in for 25 years His only program was FEAR. Americans, land of the brave elected this morron out of fear. What a joke. I have stated many times during Bush both terms that he was destroying US economy and I predicted the falldown a little sooner. Bush was lucky . Chinese economical boom kept US markets going a little longer. Nothing surprised me nor happend out of ordinery . The story of A Hitler has been followed with surprising precision. Just Marinus van der Lubbe became Osama bin Laden, and since Marinus didn’t work for Hitlers Dad , Hitler was allowed to execute his “terrorist”….but that is just more of the same

        • johnmeyer

          jack europe wants a weak united states if it wasnt for us american soldiers you idiots would be speaking german or japanese!!!!!!!

          • Jack Nitka

            one of the biggest obsesion of Americans is that everybody wants to steal from them. People in Europe I know used to like Americans and wish them well..Ubtill they started attacking and killing people for money.I can’t hardly imagine this US obsesion that Iraq is going to come here and get it

          • Jack Nitka

            as for graet help when US attacked Germany Germany already lost it was after Russian campagne..it was just a metter of time..you talk about Idiots, let me remind you Normandy. In the end US betrayed the supporters like Poland and allowed Russia to take them under opression. US paid dearly for this fatal mistake, but people of Eastern Europe paid more.US gave its partners to Russins No one would be speaking German. Americans barely sped up the end of the war and then rebuilt Germany. AS for Japanese..Japanese did not attack Europe. They attacked US. And using nuclear bomb was not exacly an act of heroism..especially that Japan wanted to capitulate, but US ignored it to show off the bomb, angry after their butts got whooped mercilessly in Pacicfic.

          • Jack Nitka

            see..nobody wants weak US except for those whom US attacked……if US stayed out of cookie jar nobody would ever try to attack this great big powerfull wealthy country. Of course you can call me naive and start your fear based view of the world too
            I support and respect US. I am ashamed of what happened to it.I am a citizen and proud of it , but I disrespect people who forced Bush regime on me. I am not afraid of the rest of the world and I don’t believe that everybody hates Americans. I can however easliy understand why people like Afhgans or Iraquis would hate US..we gave them every reason for it

  • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

    Jack;
    You made so many points I can not address them all but would like to re-state that we have NO ISSUES with LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It is ONLY ILLEGAL ALIENS who come here illegally and create a drain on the countries economy, take jobs away from “legal immigrants”, and all Americans, receive welfare and free medical care, which we don’t even receive without paying for it. That is what we do not like about “illegal aliens”. We are all “immigrants” in a way. Even though we were born here, our ancestors came from Germany, Russia, and all countries of Europe in the last 400 years. That is what this country is all about. We are ALL IMMIGRANTS except for the Native Americans that were here in the beginning that we STOLE this country from.

    Rationalize Americas actions however you like Jack, I will accept your opinion, but could you explain to me what you think the reasons for Russias’ invasion and war with Afghanistan, and more recently their invasion of Georgia and killing of Georgian citizens? What were the reasons, and do you approve of these actions?

    • Jack Nitka

      Immigrant issue is that I just don’t understand how immigration which is an act of movement became legal and illegal.I believe that so called illegals is just another way to shift a blame and find guilty ones, instead of evaluate the real mistakes.I don’t buy that illegals just live on walfare and madicare. Even Americans don’t have health insurance but illegals are supposed to. I didn’t immigrate to live on walfare. I immigrated to better my life. I just don’t buy this blame game. BY the way illegals pay a lot more taxes then anyone else. All those I know work on fake SS cards and pay taxes but don’t recive returns.
      Reasons for Russion or American oppresion of Afghanistan is an acces to OIL.
      Why Russians are messing with Georgians, I really don’t know simply becouse I didn’t care to look into it. My good suspicion is that Georgia either has OIL or covers an acces to OIL.Recently OIL is surprisingly universal cause of most of wars.

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        Jack;
        I will give you a different explanation of legal immigrants and illegal aliens so maybe you understand better.
        You were a legal immigrant. You applied for exit visa and passport from your country and filed papers and documents. You got exit visa and passport, and you got entry visa to U.S.A. You did this the “legal” way. You followed the laws to come to the U.S.A. You are or were a legal immigrant here. If you applied for and received citizenship, then you are now a U.S. citizen, and are no longer an immigrant.
        ………………………………………………………………………………………..
        Illegal aliens: Illegal aliens are not immigrants. They did not immigrate to USA legally like you did. They do not follow the laws to come to USA. They do not do paperwork or receive documents like you did. They did not do anything to receive passports and visas. They just walk over the border from Mexico and start living in the U.S.
        Also you say illegals pay more taxes than anybody. You also know that they have fake ss cards and ids’. They don’t have to pay taxes on FAKE ss cards Jack. That is why they get fake one, so they can live here and work here, but illegal aliens don’t pay taxes. They DO get free medical care. If you do not believe this then you need to start doing some research. No hospital will refuse service to anyone no matter whether than can pay or not. They just go in and get free medical care. It’s just that simple. Here is a link that will tell you more about illegal aliens that are here ILLEGALL in US from Mexico.

        http://www.desertinvasion.us

        • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

          Jack, here’s another link. On this one be sure and scroll all the way down because there is a lot of imformation below the initial photo.

          http://www.daylaborers.org

          • Jack Nitka

            ohhhya…that is horrible..looks like they feel good about geting blamed for everything…..lets go to “COP is a wife beater and child molestor web-site”, or better yet KKK web-site…see whats wrong with Black Folks ..they are not even approved off by God Himself according to KKK experts….aaaa how about White Supremacy web-site….did I forget about Catholic Priest is a child molestor?????
            Are gay supposed to be even legal…this is a sin ……come on folks don’t you have better things to do with your time then create laws that support hatred..not long ago it was ILLEGAL for Black to merry White, today gays can not merry legally…..still remeber women being lesser class..it wasn’t that long ago and yes it was a LAW

          • Jack Nitka

            why don’t you go stand on the street with them , get a job like theirs and all the free health care and walfare and see if they are really stealing something you want……..then we can blame them for mortgage crisis or whatever…..now those crimes commited by immigrants on the web-site http://www.daylaborers.org
            that sound like a history of US legal system..check the crimes comitted by judges in the state of New Mexico: child molestation, drugs, conspiracy to commit felony, driving under influence of cocaine
            why don’t we deport them ????

        • Jack Nitka

          aliens and immigrants is like defendants and insurgants.When Iraq citizen defends his country from US occupation we call him insurgant.we call them whats convinient and sound good . In fact calling one alien is great propaganda..it makes it sound so inhuman. as for taxes, not only I know they pay taxes, even IRS admitted that they have billions of dollars and an account that came from illegals and it’d basically “free money” They pay taxes becouse with fake ID you get a normal job and taxes are being withheld by employer and sent to IRS. In the end of the year you don’t get a return though. Going to emergency is not a goal of any immigrant, and can hardly be called “healthcare”
          We want to play big time Christians who will spend billions to kill somone in foreign country, but help somone in our own is just too much. As for law, paperwork and all that first at all it is incomprahansivly difficult and expensive..Homland Security is lazy, arrogant out of control bunch of goons who treat people like total crap just becouse those people can’t vote nor complain.
          as for legal or not…everything Hitler did was legal, killing people in Iraq is legal, and a buttom line..illegal aliens didn’t
          mess up US, Americans did…….wander if we can deport Christopher Columbus or is there statue of limitation

          • Unbiased Observer

            Ok Jack, since your only intention is just to RANT on here about things that you apparently know nothing about, I for one will no longer waste my time reading your posts. You actually seemed rational at first until your alter ego came out. You really need to educate yourself POLITICALLY, before you start making such ignorant and rash statements.
            adios comrade

  • http://PersonalLiberty Judy

    Jack, my suggestion to you is to google (Frontlinethewarning) you will see that this all started back when Clinton was in office. (derivatives)It has taken more than a decade for the sh– to hit the fan. And still nothing has been done during the Bush years and Obama. You know why? Follow the money trail. Lobbyist, etc. We U.S. citizens are being taken for a ride and it continues. We need our Constitution to be followed by these bozos.

    • Jack Nitka

      I am fully aware that redneck lawyer from small town in Arkansas is not an example of great honesty. Clinton did at least speak his Southernish a lot better then obvious retard Bush. Clinton played dirty but he did not dishonor US in such an obvious way. Clinton actually improved economy and Bush destroyed it and Certainly Bushes fallout is not Clintons fault..that is just crazy. As for looking in the past, I believe Reagan was first Psychotic Igomeniac who started steady downfall of US thru his followers.All this crazy bussiness with policing the world and space which was fundamental change in policy of US adventually brought the disaster. OF course money is the secret, and of course they all stink . WE Americans need to wake up , execute the Congress and then we’ll have a chance. Before Reagan US was self caring self contained country which invated immigrants and expected everyone to follow American way here.After it became regimistic imperialistic monster selfrighesly attacking those who have what we want and justifing it with some holly horseshit . Karma however followes……………..

  • Jack Nitka

    Cheer up everybody!!!!!!! i hope you find a way to enjoy your lives and act with integrity and dignity despite of horrible things US did in last 9 years. During Bush regime US has been separated in a horrible way. The political disagreement turned into hatred. WE need to support actions of a president we have now, at least fascist is gone. I have many doubts about Obama, I do agree with lots of what he does and understand some of it and don’t understand some. But he is the best we have for now. trying to blame him for a horrible mess he inherited is naive and pointless. First I want to see last American soldier to leave Iraq. In any case good luck

    • Downsized

      Here we go again……..blame GW for everything.Don’t you ever get tired of that.If the Obamanites were in power during 9/11 we’d still be negotiating with the Afgans for Bin-laden.(before you even say it,yes I know we still haven’t caught him.We’re not going to invade packistan where he is in hiding)You blame GW for the economy? Job losses? Global warming? maybe even the earthquake in Haiti? You conveniently forget that the dem controlled congress put into play the “Community reinvestment act” that started the whole housing bubble,bank buster, economic meltdown in the first place. Barney Frank and his boyfriend at Fannie Mae (or was it Freddie Mac? or both?) backed up the bad idea and the bottom fell out. The so-called main stream media attacks anyone who opposes the Obama administration and tries to destroy them with charges of hate,bigotry,racism etc. I suppose you’ll deny that. Hope and change? Transparancy? Nancy Pelosi and her cronies having closed door meetings almost daily. What a joke. Nancy called protesters that hanged and burned in efigy GW “Political activist exercising their right to free speech” What would she say if someone did the same thing to Obama? I bet even you can’t figure out a way to spin that one can you? Janet Nepolatano calling American veterans,Christians,legal gun owners,anti abortionist a “real threat to American security”. Are you serious? I use the handle “Downsized” for a reason. The company I “used” to work for started going downhill in Nov. of ’08…..Hmmm…wonder why…….This administration is probably the most corrupt in history,and they’re just getting started. Now you have Joe Biden claiming the success in Iraq is Obamas greatest achievment? The hits just keep on coming don’t they? Do you want me to go on? I’ve got a lot more for ya Jack. You wanna talk about the stimulus package Jack? John Murtha got a few million to extend the runway in his home town before he died. Kennedy got millions for his library (or whatever it was I’m not exactly sure) before he died. Nancy Pelosi got millions for a visitor center in Frisco? Charlie Rangle on the commitee for tax reform? Eric Holder not prosecuting black panthers standing out side polling stations with weapons in their hands? What if a bunch of skinheads or klansmen did that? Ya wanna talk about acorn Jack? I don’t because it’s so bad it’s unbelievable. Millions of taxpayer dollars down the toilet.I have to stop now Jack I’m getting dizzy…..I feel like I’m caught up in an episode of the “Twilight Zone”…..picture if you will, a man,a small insignificant man….do do do do…do do do do……….

  • Downsized

    This might be a little off topic depending on your point of veiw I suppose. I picture an old episode of the Andy Griffith Show. The one where Gomer tried to arrest Barny. Remember?…”citizens arrest,citizens arrest”.Every time I hear the liberals cry “George Bush,George Bush” I laugh out loud because I’m thinking …”citizens arrest ,citizens arrest..and now you will too.

  • Downsized

    View……sorry

  • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

    Jack Nikita;
    Were you anywhere Chrenoble Nuke plant when it blew up? Were you exposed to the radiation?

    • Jack Nitka

      nope, my family was

    • Jack Nitka

      however I was exposed to radiation in New Mexico where creators of arms of mass destruction had a fire. Citizens of Alamogordo are dying of radiation and large amounts of arms of mass destruction are sitting in Albuquerque in the parking lot

  • johnmeyer

    JACK IS A LIBERAL

  • Natalia Novakova

    Jack Nitka,
    You are very pathetic man and poor example of American immigrant and you put shame on all other LEGAL immigrants who love America. I am ashamed to come from same part of world as you. You slander President Bush for causing all problems. You call President Bush a fascist, but you do not know what fascist or fascism is! A fascist leader or government OWNS and controls business. Government and president leader owns and controls industry and business under fascism. Look at your mr Obama and his government who now own General motors, Chrysler motors, many large banks, and financial institutions. President Bush never owned these companies or businesses and industrys. You are ignorant American immigrant. You say you have been in America for 25 years but you do not learn anything about politics or America in your 25 years! If you do not like America why do you not go back to your socialist communist mother country! GO BACK and let your Putin step on your neck if you enjoyed it so much. You are shamefull to speak of good Americans the way you do. You just like to hear yourself talk! You could not even talk like this if not for American Constitution that protects you. American Constitution is only one in world that protects the people and not the government. All other Constitutions are built to protect governments but not protect people! Other Constitutions put government boots on peoples necks. You will never be good American so you just go back to your bastard father Putin! He waits for you with open arms. You are all bieg talk Jack Nitka but your talk is full of inaccuracies and lies and wrong information. Good people on here try and help you to understand and you slander them and make up new lies to tell. You shame all people from your mother country and your immigrant brothers and sisters of your new country of America. You are weak mind but have bieg mouth with which you spew hate and lies. Go home to Putin and kiss his feet Jack Nitka. When you act this way nobody wants you here whether you be legal immigrant or not. I apologize to all Americans on here for your actions and bieg mouth because I know you are too ignorant to see what you have done and you do not apologize for yourself. Go home Jack Nitka. American Patriots do not want you here any longer.

    • Downsized

      Excellant post Natalia.It’s folks like you that make me proud to be an American.You came to this country to BE an “American” instead of a foriegner just living here at the taxpayers expence. Being an American is more than just where you were born. It’s an ideal,it’s a proud tradition of self reliance,of strength,of pride and of dignity.It’s the idea that someone can come from nothing and achieve anything if you work hard enough.Not because the government gives it to you but because you earned it.All true Americans want from our government is that they do not “step on our neck” as you stated. Welcome to America Natalia and God bless.

      • Natalia Novakova

        Downsized,
        Thank you for warm welcome. I am very pleased and proud to be here. Not all people from my country are like Jack Nitka, and they do not hate Americans. They only fear American government just as American people fear Russian government and China government but we all like the people. All people like other people we just fear others overbearing and corrupt governments. In Russia people fear Russian government, and governments of China and America and middle east arabs Iran, Syria, Iraq when had Saddam, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, all countries who rattle sabers the most and have nukes or rockets or terrorists or countries who might have too many not accounted for big weapons that might go wrong way.

  • Douglas J Ossentjuk

    “Obama” wants credit for the Iraq war??, Now would be the time for him to acknowledge “W’S” initiation of the “surge” which the dems were most strongly against and is the only reason anything worked there, a nice public acknowledgement would seem appropriate.
    The next thing he’ll want, is credit for putting a man on the Moon!!.w
    By his own admission, Afghanastan is his war. We’ll see how that goes. So far his administration is a nightmare of epic proportions.

  • Douglas J Ossentjuk

    IMMIGRATION ;

    My Grandparants were immigrants. MY Wife and her family were immigrants. From the moment they hit Ellis Island thier goal was to learn English follow the rules/law’s and apply for citizenship, which they did in fine fashion. Some of our fondest memories are sitting around the table with them watching them ply there new found language. They went on to become very successful in thier endeavors, and, contributed mightilly to the GNP which is what Americans do from where ever they originate. The Democrats want nothing more than votes from any where, Puerto Rico, Mexico, etc these people mean nothing to them just Numbers. The 30,000,000 people sucked into our Health care debacle was nothing more than VOTES. This immigration mess was designed for votes and nothing more.

  • Douglas J Ossentjuk

    Correction, previous post, Afghanistan..

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  • Douglas J Ossentjuk

    It is indeed times like this that make it very apparent the Dan Quale might not have been “in his time of course”, a bad choice for VP as compared to obiden. The temerity of biden suggesting that “he or any one in this administration was instrumental in Iraq’s stabilization “as such”, could be confuted in 20 seconds. biden gives a whole new definition to incontinence, and, “if you look up Gaffe, there’s a picture of biden”……………….

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