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It’s The Greens That Sowed The Seeds Of The Gulf Oil Disaster

June 9, 2010 by  

It’s The Greens That Sowed The Seeds Of The Gulf Oil Disaster

To the Greens I have six words regarding the catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico: Your President, your policies, your fault.

After all Barack Obama was the progressive Green candidate, a thinker who could steer the course in the 21st Century. Oprah anointed then-Senator Obama as "The Chosen One". To Oprah and a great majority of Liberals, Obama was the anti-Dubya; a larger than life leader with savior qualities that would lead us to peace and overcome all obstacles.

So far, so bad. America’s endgame for Iraq is in question because of increasing levels of Shiite-Sunni violence. Afghanistan looks more untenable all the time. The recovery is sluggish and healthcare has been rammed down the throats of the American people. Now we face an enormous crisis in the Gulf of Mexico. It’s been almost two months since an explosion sent crude pumping into the Gulf and the Obama administration has shown an astonishing lack of leadership.

David Gergen, a centrist political commentator and advisor to four Presidents, has pointed out a basic lack of leadership from the Obama administration: “Ultimately it is not the responsibility of BP or any other company to protect American interests but the responsibility of the Federal government.”

While on Anderson Cooper 360° on CNN, Gergen added: “If our government had fought World War II like the way we’re fighting the oil spill, there’s a good chance many of us would be speaking German today.”

Gergen is hardly alone in the criticism. Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, the general who endorsed Obama in 2008, says the President has been far too slow in asserting leadership over the Gulf spill and the time has come for a "comprehensive and total attack" on the problem.

So here it is, a news flash to Oprah and the Liberals: When it comes to leadership, Barack Obama is a lot more Herbert Hoover than he is Harry Truman, regardless of how many “the buck stops here” speeches Obama chooses to give. Little wonder that a recent USA Today/Gallup survey showed that six out of 10 Americans believe the Federal government is doing a “poor” or “very poor” job handling the spill.

The President bristles at criticism that the Gulf crisis is his Katrina. Even in the face of the failure of BP to stem the spill with its top-kill option, Obama was defending the Federal government’s record and promised aggressive action to ensure future drilling is done safely. He has extended a moratorium on new exploration drilling in the Gulf and announced that 33 current projects in the deep water will be suspended along with two permits for exploration wells in the Beaufort Sea off Alaska.

“As we continue our response effort, we’re also moving quickly on steps to ensure that a catastrophe like this never happens again,” he said. “I’ve said before that producing oil here in America is an essential part of our overall energy strategy. But all drilling must be safe.”

Respectfully Mr. President, can we not worry about future leaks until we fix this one? After all, the BP gusher has well surpassed the 1989 Exxon spill in Alaska as the largest ever in the United States. Crude has continued to spew for 52 days after it began with a rig explosion that killed 11 people. Every effort to stop the spill has so far proved unsuccessful.

When I was a boy on the farm we didn’t worry about the horses that might get out; we scurried about to catch the horse that had gotten out. And right now there is a big and nasty animal rolling about the Gulf presenting a clear and present danger to the United States. Meanwhile we are getting the Green lecture—how to stop future oil spills. Which brings me to my second news flash—it is Green policies that got us into this mess in the first place.

The Greens Made Us Drill So Deep
Last January I wrote about the problems and costs of drilling for oil at such extraordinary depths as those being worked off the coast of Louisiana. It was called The Deep Truth About Oil and the Gulf of Mexico.

In that column I said: “Chevron has spent 10 years and a whopping $2.7 billion for this project. This is the cost of running a drill and casing more than 30,000 feet through earth and ocean, the same distance that an airliner flies above the earth. Chevron will spend billions more and in the end, even with all the high-tech in the world, there are no guarantees that its deep-water experiment will hit pay-dirt. In fact there is less than a 50/50 chance that Chevron’s latest deep-sea adventure will yield anything. Still Chevron and their brethren don’t have a choice.

“The Wall Street Journal sums up the situation: ‘Big easily tapped oil fields close to shore have become off-limits.’”

Fast forward a few months and we saw the real danger in not drilling in shallow waters and places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). We see what happens when Big Oil is forced to drill in 5,000 feet or more of seawater; depths at which accidents can’t be easily repaired.

I’ve been talking to my friends in the Alberta oil patch about this for weeks. But the problem didn’t see the light of day until the May 29 episode of Meet the Press. There Host David Gregory asked White House Energy Adviser Carol Browner if in response to the Gulf Coast oil spill, America should start drilling in ANWR.

Gregory asked: "Is the problem that we’re drilling in water that’s just too deep?" 

Gregory continued: "Should you (the White House) even rethink your own approach to the environment to say… maybe in the Arctic Wildlife Reserve; we ought to be drilling there… we ought to be going into shallower waters so that this can be done more safely?"

Incredibly Gregory wasn’t given an answer. But even I know this simple truth—that we need to be drilling in shallow water and places like ANWR. Places where accidents can be corrected.

Don’t expect any leadership on this from the President even though his decision to suspend deepwater drilling off the U.S. coast will have consequences.

“An extended moratorium on safely producing our oil and natural gas resources from the Gulf of Mexico would create a moratorium on economic growth and job creation,” said Jack Gerard, chief executive of the American petroleum Institute.

It’s worth noting that the Gulf of Mexico currently produces about 1.6 million barrels of oil per day—an amount larger than the output of Canada’s oil sands. It was expected to grow to 1.9 million barrels by 2025. But the jury is out on this until Obama—"The Chosen One"—chooses leadership over politics and stops this catastrophe.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • JeffH

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    • Al Sieber

      thanks JeffH, I needed that.

      • Palin12

        A little (ok, a lot) off-topic, but Ron Paul has introduced an amendment in the House to end Obamacare mandate:
        http://www.chooseliberty.org/hr4995.aspx?pid=ez01

        • Cole Tindell

          Lets all point our finger at Obama! But if we were HONEST lets admit the Bush Administration declared WAR with Afganistan!!! Bush declared war with Iraq!!!! Our economy took a NOSE DIVE becuase of the Bush Admin. not Obama!! He is just trying to FIX the BUSH Admin. SCREW UPS!! For the health care the United States is the ONLY GOD fearing country that dies NOT have health care, Americans Medical system wants MORE MILLIONS of $$$$ they are NOT concerned with saving an AMERICANS LIFE!!!!Now some jerks are blamming the GREENS for the BP OIL SPILL, BP could drill on land today but would much rather dig deep in the sea for one reason $$$$$

          • Palin12

            Cole
            Have you been smoking that wacky tobacky? What in the world does the war in Iraq and Afghanistan have to do with the BP oil spill?? Quit blaming Bush for the present economy. It was Bawney Fwank and Dodd that enacted legislation to force the banks to sell homes to undeserving people who couldn’t afford them. The banks were told if they didn’t comply they would be labeled as racists. That is the main reason for the economy being what it is, along with the 2 wars you mention. Odumbo promised to be out of Iraq in 16 months if elected; it’s now 17 months. Another broken campaign promise by your messiah.

          • Gottfredson

            Now it is Bush’s war. I am curious when 9/11 occured and you found out who was responsible what did you think and what did you want? Your party and the U.N. made it immpossible for Bush to go in and win, we had to wait a full year to make sure we were not hurting anyones feelings with regard to Iraq. Obama is a Communist pure and simple and has ruled as a master not a public servant. The majority speaks, he does the opposite. This adminstration is conditioning people to be totaly dependent on the Government. This is a very BAD IDEA!!! Forced Health Care, Cap and Trade, 6 percent tax increase on dividends, EPA can do what ever they want I make the Law, Tea Party is a group of Terrorist, Freinds with Bill Aires a known and convicted terrorist, voter fraud and involvement with Acorn, the list goes on and on!!!! This is your savoir, I guess if you are a Communist.

          • lornaduwn

            Cole,
            Time to get your facts straight. Al Qaeda declared war on America in the early 1990′s. We did nothing until thousands of Americans died. Both Afghanistan and Iraq were allowing Al Qaeda to train within their countries. Yup! Bush overspent on the credit card. However, Obama has spent more so far than Bush spent in 8 years! Insurance companies make an industry average of 3% profit. The new law does not address the issues of high health care (not insurance)costs, other than panels such as CER and IPAB (panels that decide the cost effectiveness of treatment, you know the ones that consider age as a factor). If costs don’t go down (through measures that weren’t addressed, such as tort reform) it doesn’t matter who the insurance carrier is. It will be expensive. We were scammed into believing that the new law is “deficit neutral”. Firstly, revenues are collected for 4 years before benefits are enacted. So there’s 10 years of revenue and 6 years of benefits. What happens in the next 10 years? The answer is that is will cost about a trillion dollars! That’s OUR trillion dollars! And don’t let the term “deficit neutral” fool you. All that means is that the federal budget on it would be neutral. As long as they tax or fine the public enough money to pay for something, it is considered “deficit neutral”. The CBO stated during the Senatorial hearings that consumer costs most likely would go up.

            As far as BP being able to drill on land anytime they want, you’ve got to be kidding me, right? BP wanted to drill in just 500 feet of water (where the water pressure would not have been a problem and a leak could be plugged quickly) and had gotten the OK from Louisiana, the Feds said no. The Feds also won’t allow drilling in ANWAR another spot where problems are more easily fixed. Just a little side note. Shortly after the Gulf disaster, there was an oil leak in an Alaska pipeline. Why don’t we hear about it? Because it got fixed, easily and quickly!

          • http://www.MCTomkat.com T Eliason

            Cole is exactly right. This article is skewed right beyond any hope of recognition.

            Iraq and Afghanistan were both started by Bush/Cheney, both were resource wars, and both were lost a long long time ago. But MICO won’t let us stop spending money by the truckload so we’re not stopping either war anytime soon.

            And how stupid do you have to be to think environmentalists wanted deep-water drilling ? If it was up to them, there would be NO offshore drilling, for what has become obvious reasons. This is a shill piece, supporting big oil (and taking every available shot at Obama) so don’t be confused folks – this article was straight propoganda.

      • Dave

        Wow, it’s about time somebody found a way to blame this on Obama and the dems. It took you long enough. Very creative by the way. It sounds good. I like how you even got blame Iraq and Afghanistan on them too, very nice. next can you figure out a way to blame the democrats for global warming. Not that it exists of course.

    • RAT

      THAT was AWESOME.

    • Texas2Step

      Way cool! What a lovely start to the day. Thanks!

      • Denniso

        What a simplistic and wrong article…blame Obama and environmentalists for a problem caused by the oil industry? Ridiculous.

        The blame rests squarely on the oil companies involved in this disaster,partly for not being prepared for this possibility and also for shortcuts in the drilling process and lack of maintenance on the blow out protector.

        The rational for deep water drilling,supported by the states because of their concerns for their tourist industry,is that the rigs don’t wreck the beauty of the beaches and sea,and that spilled oil is 40 or more miles out at sea and less likely to hit the beaches and marshes.

        No one is forcing BP or other oil companies to drill at sea…they do it for huge profits,as we’ve seen for the past 5yrs or more. Exxon,at the height of the gasoline price spike a couple of yrs ago,was making
        5 to $10 billion a quarter in net profit. They also have leases on land that they are not even drilling,because they want to find more huge reservoirs off coast.

        Obama can’t stop the leak…the gov’t can’t stop the leak. BP is the
        entity w/ the technology in place to deal w/ it and it’s outrageous that they told the gov’t that this sort of thing couldn’t happen because they had ‘failsafe’ procedures in place. Now we find out that they don’t even have the technology to stop a blowout this deep under water.

        Meyers wants to deflect blame to Obama and the ‘greens’ because it’s a good opportunity for politics as usual…attack your opponent whenever possible for your political gain,whether it makes sense or not…and,does Myers have a vested interest in the oil industry? Does he own oil stocks like many people and most ‘conservatives’? I would bet on it.

        So blame everyone else except the giant corporation that actually caused the disaster,and try to keep your stock value up…come clean Mr. Meyers…

        • Dan Burke

          If profits is all that motivates them, then why do we make it cost so much to drill where it is safer? It would be cheaper to drill in shallower waters but environmental hoops that they would have to jump through is so extreme and terribly risky that we would shut it down even after they invested all that time and money for environmental impact studies, lobbying, etc. etc.. It all adds up. Plus, closer in, we’ll call them “eye sores” and demand they drill further away anyways.

          Since the crisis continues on and on, I have seen several methods that could be employed that are potentially very effective. I had to ask myself, why are these methods not being employed, or even being tested on a smaller scale? Maybe they are being tested. Either they are being tested and failing, or they are being tested and succeeding. Or maybe not employed at all. Supposedly one method was used successfully in the past and even cleaned up some impacted marshes quite nicely and they claimed it had no harmful after effects. So I ask myself is there a reason to actually not use effective, trial or proven methods? The answer is yes. There is a reason to not use these methods. Do you get great publicity on the harmful effects of oil catastrophes if we actually clean it up and prevent environmental damage? If it could be shown that we have learned to handle the environmental impacts of oil drilling, then the American public looses their revulsion of the dangers. We are no better than teenagers, easily believing in our invulnerability. So if the government wants to pass environmental legislation then there must environmental damages from this major oil leak. In other words, to pass major environmental legislation, the wildlife, businesses, and the environment must be allowed to suffer. It is a conflict of interest to actually succeed.

          • William Lord

            What you seem to be saying is that BP is delibertly using inefficient methods to clean up the spill thus expanding the Gulf Damage so that the Obama administration can enact more restrictions upon drilling. Could you perhaps explain how this expensive endeavor abvances BP’s interests or provide one sliver of evidence to support this assertion? I realize that ideological commitment sometimes requires one to reach for bizzare arguments in support of weak positions but I find your reasoning not worthy of a 3rd rate high school debating exercise.

          • TIME

            Well, There you all go, now at least Alex has ststed the “truth” he is a Marxist! He hates YOU and everything YOU stand for.

            Now if Norm and DimwitO and eyes at half mast would just state that they are Marxist at least then you would all see quite clearly what we are all fighting. All these buffoons post is out right Rhetoric its all to piss you off, push your buttons etc. Don’t let them you will never change their minds, They want YOU DEAD!
            Can you all grasp that?

            Its not that they are Liberal, again I keep telling you they are not LIBERALS!

            The people here who post crazy views here are “MARXIST” can it be made any more clear than what Alex stated in his post above.

            People he is no differant that BarryO’s Czars and he is no differant than BarryO, nor any person whom BarryO has appointed and or has backed.

            These wacked out Marxist if they would just tell the Truth like Alex just did – then you could clearly see that they “HATE YOU” if you believe in the Constitution and FREEDOM.
            They want you to be slaves!
            They hate Freedom!
            They hate the idea that your not just a cog in the Marxist wheel.
            They hate everything to include themselfs.
            Thats what Marxist are self haters.
            Thats why they are as nasty as they are.

            Can it be any clearer, so please stop bashing LIBERALS, and start bashing the “Progressive Marxist” that we are fighting.

            By the way we are now in the fight for our very own country, its not about Tax’s its not about Greed its not about right and wrong.
            Its only about stopping the Marxist!

          • eyeswideopen

            Time, I haven’t been on this site for 6 weeks, it is so nice to know that I have had such an impact on you, that you reference me in your dribble. Took time to see the Fl beaches while they are still beautiful. Am so confuesed by the tea partiers, like Bachman, who want the President to commandeer a private corporation, while at the same time wanting the government to stay out of our lives. You and your cronies want government interference when it suits your desires. It must be very difficult to walk that tight rope all the time.

          • Dan Burke

            “I find your reasoning not worthy of a 3rd rate high school debating exercise.” I find this whole thing humorous myself. Let me see if I understand the situation correctly. BP is conducting the cleanup, yes? This is all done under the direction of the government, yes? We see that even the State of Louisiana could not build their protective, artificial reefs until they got approval. Foreign governments couldn’t bring in their assistance until they were given approval (mostly turned down by our government until just shortly). So, let me spell this out in language you might understand. I never said this was for BP’s good that things are going this way. If you assume that we still have a free market, then you must be delusional. If we have a free market, then why do companies spend millions on lobbyists to protect themselves from legislation? Why are company execs hauled before congress on hearings on how they are doing business (and being told by our politicians how to run their private businesses)? If all this is free enterprise, then communism or marxism is only cousin to free enterprise and not so diabolically opposed as we seem to think they are. You should be okay with GM becoming officially government motors instead of a private company. You should be okay with health care becoming a government mandated and controlled industry. And, you must be okay with government telling us how our energy future should look like instead of letting the markets create the solutions (all the while they posture the hole still isn’t plugged and continues to leak). It really is simple. We Americans are so arrogant (and easily deceived) that we trust our government. We have had good reason to in the past. We have enjoyed more freedoms and more wealth as a result of those freedoms for a long, long time. For several generations America has developed into a wealthy nation. Now we have come full circle and have embraced lying, cheating, stealing, and all sorts of once irresponsible behavior as the norm. Really you might say? If you really don’t approve of these sorts of behaviors, then why do we keep voting into office as our elected representatives people who are some of the best at lying, cheating, stealing and all sort of once irresponsible behavior. And if that is what it takes to be a politician, then don’t we the people also force business execs to be the same way to protect their companies from lying, cheating, and stealing politicians? So we blame the execs because we forced them to become these people? We never take blame for our own actions. I don’t surprise me in the least when we consider our own efforts to avoid blame that we have a President and mainstream media who make this an art form as well. Now back to the oil leak. It is in government’s interest that BP remain the front line on cleaning up the oil leak. It is in the environmentalists interests that toxic dispersants be used. They need the damages to happen to get their agenda for the future passed through as law. You get great media coverage with dead birds and fish washing ashore in vast numbers. With great media coverage, you swing public opinion. Swing public opinion, and you get laws passed and the economy changed. What was interesting to learn is that initially this well had been approved by the state for much shallower waters and it was federal government intervention that pushed into deep water drilling. If true, very interesting. But the public is quick to judge BP and forget the deeper story. Once we have our villain picked out, why look for the deeper truth. Why risk facing the fact that possibly those who are most concerned about the environment might have created the conditions that caused a more dangerous accident than the ones they prevented. The same goes with healthcare and any number of government policies. We assume that legislation to protect us is actually protecting us instead of pushing us into even greater dangers. Is BP (and big oil) obsolved of their responsibility and involvement in this problem? No. What people like me want to point out is that we assume that because BP is the front runner on this cleanup that all the inept handling of it is BP’s fault. Then someone like me sees all the stuff that is going on, all the supposedly proven options that might not have stopped the leak but may have far more safely handled the impact of the leak (and some options claim to have been cheaper when employed in the past successfully), we then ask the question, how many of these options were considered? If so, is there something about them that I don’t know? Were they false claims of success? Or how about this, we are so quick to ignore that the apparent chain of command that I have been able to piece together is that BP might be going through the same hoops as the State of Louisiana. Perhaps they have to get there approaches approved by the federal government and EPA, and if so, this is a great arrangement for government. Government gets BP to stand front and center as the public enemy number one while all the time being able to not only get BP to foot the bill, but government takes credit when things go right and shift all the blaim to BP when things go sour. Coincidently, if you open your eyes, that is what appears to be happening. Government was all happy sounding on the Top Kill attempt when at first it appeared to be working then strangely went silent when it was proved that it had failed. Our President seems to be in the best spot on this. Win-win for our government. Lose-lose for BP. So, right now, remember that BP is trying to save themselves. If they violate the EPA and big US government, then they look at criminal charges and massive penalties in addition to cleanup. Basically, the only path available to BP is follow the course they are on. Their only hope right now is that our government doesn’t become like China and potentially command the execution of the execs as enemies of the state. So blaim BP all you want. Feel free. And when you end up in controlled economy, the money is all gone as well as your freedoms, and I have been either “reeducated” or likely shot dead, then I hope you love the 200 square foot apartment you live in with stove that might not work and no laundry facilities. As long as you keep playing the blaim game, you will be led to wherever the politicians want to take you. First, you must take responsibility. Until you are willing to admit that perhaps our wishes as an environmentally conscious people drove the drilling that deep and unsafe, until you are willing to admit our contribution to the problem, there is no way for you to solve the issue of corrupt safety inspectors and business leadership overriding safety concerns of those who operate the rigs. We are to quick to blame these individuals but slow to accept that we are no better, that they represent us on far more levels than we want to admit even to ourselves. Until we fix ourselves, there is no real responsible way to fix the problems we will continue to face. Take even a totally government controlled economy. Take communism. In theory, and in practice, they are totally different. In theory, everyone works and the community thrives and is great for the world. In reality, they execute millions in death camps and the populace becomes extremely poor waiting in lines for even the basics in life. Where is the problem? The problem is assuming that you can fix the people with total control. What is the problem with that? Because we assume that a few elites are better than the majority. We assume that Obama and his administration of college elites are above the problems of the rest of us. Unfortunately, we ass-u-me. History has time and again proven that those elites are no better than us, just as corrupt and corruptible. Just as foolish. Just as prone to mistakes, even sometimes more because we sometimes know we don’t know the best solution while sometimes the elites have been taught to believe that they know best. So perhaps those elites who “know best” might actually consider the loss of life and destruction of the environment now to be worth the longterm
            benefits of policies that shift our economy to a place where they have been taught it will far greater good to the environment over the next hundred plus years.

          • http://www.MCTomkat.com T Eliason

            Dan Burke: “environmental hoops that they would have to jump through is so extreme”

            Hilarious !

            Yeah, photocopying an old environmental report so MMS could rubber-stamp it is SOOOOO extreme !

            Obviously you haven’t been paying attention friend. The so-called environmental regulations placed on poor poor Big Oil are a JOKE.

            BP wrote its OWN inspections, used the same environmental study over & over, and took criminal chances by shortcutting the capping process.

            And yet here we have a whole group of people saying this happened because of ENVIRONMENTALISTS !!!!!

            Please tell me this is a Monty Python sketch because it can’t be serious.

          • http://www.MCTomkat.com T Eliason

            Almost missed this: “government telling us how our energy future should look like instead of letting the markets create the solutions”

            We’ve been allowing the free market to operate in energy and all it does is make us more dependent on oil. You think the solution is to do more of the same ?

            I suspect you also think we need more tax cuts and deregulation in the financial industry !!!

            At least you’re consistent (consistently ignorant).

        • http://www.not-today.com Pete G

          I beg to differ with you on many points. First I have to say the waste of energey in pointing out the hypocrisy of your rant is beyond what I am willing to go to.
          I will just say your wrong on most counts.
          Where were you when the Blame Bush, “I’m not his fan” when crowd was ranting about Catrina? After all if you look really hard…. right under your nose you’ll see Mr. Bush contacted the ignorant liberal Governor of LA and the idiot Mayor of NO and as the state’s sovereign rights dictate they in their right refused Federal assistance. They politically and constitutionally correct.
          They were/are arrogant self serving Liberal idiots with nothing but their own political carriers in mind. Now they should be held accountable for deaths and destruction and pay the penalty just as if they held a gun to those peoples heads.
          If Mr. Bush had brought in the National Guard et al you would have been screaming for his head.
          That issue was on shore and rightfully the domain of the state and the city of N.O..
          This is off our shores and is the domain of the Federal Government to protect our shores and our country. “Which Mr. Illegal Alain President” has done nothing about.
          If he had an IQ of something on the order of about the square root of his shoe size he would have protected the shores from the idiot environmentalists and started very aggressive drilling in ANWAR. It’s safe and a very large area. So if you want to go to that huge expanse of frozen nothing for a bit tourism have at it. A few producing oil wells, “done with proven technology” would not blight the area.
          I believe this country is under attack from within in order to bring about ultimate destruction of this way of life and put us under the thumb of the UN with Mr.Idiot President as leader of the UN.
          You are in my opinion an enemy of this great nation for which I fought and was shot for while being the lucky one. Many of my friends were not so lucky.
          I almost rue the day that I shot and killed nine people protecting a jerk like you. But unlike most Liberals and especially Mr. Obamanation and that
          San Francisco puke Polisi I had taken an oath to protect and serve.
          Against my wishes I carried out my duty and did my job, “I kept my oath!” And someone who isn’t worth the bullets used that day is alive today making mayhem on my country.
          Neither of these two can say they have kept their oath.
          also last time I checked they in not keeping their oath have committed high treason. Why aren’t they in jail. FOREVER!
          I truly hope people like you are still in the big cities when it crashes down about your shoulders. You will have to fight for food and I have moved from the city to a deep woods location in order to protect myself from the likes of you when the hoards stream out of the little self induced hell, “blaming everyone else.” Don’t come here for food “or anything for that matter.” I won’t take to it lightly and you won’t walk away if you intend violence to get my survival goods. No it isn’t as simple as you think!
          I am in a position to protect myself from anything less than about 35 armed idiots with anything less than tanks and missiles.
          Wanna play?

          • Shasta

            God Bless YOU Pete G and thank you for serving. I like what you said, shows someone has done their homework
            God Bless America, it needs it!

          • http://none Alex

            Yes, Petey, this cuntry is under attack! Count me as one of the attackers. I have hated this wretched nation since I was in junior high school and was able to see beyond all the b.s. about liberty and freedom and equality. In MY LIFETIME all the blather about “freedom” only served to underscore the hypocrisy of the White Estates of America. Let me ask you a question, Petey boy: if the US really did stand for freedom, why were we fighting the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong in support of the repressive South Vietnamese government instead of killing white people in South Africa whose apartheid fascists were THE WORST people on Earth, even worst than us? Huh? Can you answer that one? Of course you cannot–there is NO rationale. The reason we did not fight for freedom in the RSA is because they supplied us with diamonds and gold, you morons. Freedom had NOTHING to do with ANYTHING. America is a LIE. That is why we fight it–it needs to be destroyed, broken into smaller pieces which can then scrap all the Capitalist chains. Remember, we got our butts kicked in Vietnam because we needed to lose that war–it was unjust.

          • angel-wanna-be

            PETE G, THANK GOD FOR YOU TOO HONEY, MY DAD AND HIS THREE BROTHERS ALL SERVED IN WWII AT THE SAME TIME__ALL CAME HOME, ONE WITH A PURPLE HEART_ALL OF THEM NOW SHARE A CLOUD IN HEAVEN, I’M SAD, BUT THANKFUL, THEY ARE NOT HERE TO WITNESS WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME__GOD BLESS YOU

          • Save America Susie

            Alex….I am very SAD that you hate America….But what I really think you hate is the Government in D.C.. Not the people of America. Because much of what you are against is beyond the common people’s control, thanks to the new socialism that has been creeping into our culture for decades now. And I think most people in America are not racist–that is a stereotype. Their friends come from all walks of life and ALL races. They are hard working and sincere.

            I ask Sincerely…If you hate America so much….sincerely, why do you STAY? Can you explain that to me? I am just wondering why you would want to stay in a place you hated so much?

            MOST PEOPLE are NOT trying to leave America, I noticed. In fact they are coming here in droves. They are sneaking across the border illegally, they love it here so much. They realize its value. They realize that it is a GOOD place to be. Every place has its problems. You are NOT going to find a perfect country. Because men are imperfect. If we can’t have the “best country” here, there is no hope. AMERICA is the last chance on Earth for personal freedom. Would you really destroy your last chance to be FREE? Would you really go somewhere else?

            Point to one other country you would like better….I’m curious, What would it be?

          • Jolene

            Thank you Pete for your service for this great country. I remember what it was when I was growing up during WWII; and I want that wonderful America back for all Americans to enjoy. I do not want to see it changed and destroyed by the EPA and the Liberal Left. Thank you for remembering and bringing out the facts about Katrina. President Bush called the then Governor of Louisian and Mayor Nagin of New Orleans to warn them of the severity of the coming hurricane. Yet they did nothing until the last minute. States rights and two people prevented help from getting there sooner. There was only one newspaper that printed the truth about that situation; unfortunately, a lot of Americans never heard the entire truth. Thank goodness, The State of Louisiana has a good level-headed governor in Governor Jindal.

            Unfortunately, President Obama doesn’t have much executive experience–Photo ops are not what is needed. To now hear that help was offered by the third day of this disaster by foreign countries and politely refused in writing by the U.S. Government is sickening. Had those vessels with large capacity been welcomed here to help early on, much damage could have been prevented.

            Thank you again for your service to this country.

          • lornaduwn

            Alex

            You should bow down and kiss the ground of a country in which you can say what you did and not be arrested!

          • chad

            Alex, the great thing about America is you can leave any time your Commie A$$ want to, You Pr!@K

        • coal miner

          Denniso,

          I agree with you.

        • Dan Burke

          If profits is all that motivates oil companies, then why do we make it cost so much to drill where it is safer? It would be cheaper to drill in shallower waters but environmental hoops that they would have to jump through is so extreme and terribly risky that we would shut it down even after they invested all that time and money for environmental impact studies, lobbying, etc. etc.. It all adds up. Plus, closer in, we’ll call them “eye sores” and demand they drill further away anyways.

          While the crisis continues on and on, I have learned of several methods that could be employed that are potentially very effective and expect I may learn of yet more. I had to ask myself, why are these methods not being employed, or even being tested on a smaller scale? Maybe they are being tested. Either they are being tested and failing, or they are being tested and succeeding. Or maybe not employed at all. Supposedly one method was used successfully in the past and even cleaned up some impacted marshes quite nicely and they claimed it had no harmful after effects. So I ask myself is there a reason to actually not use effective, trial or proven methods? The answer is yes. There is a reason to not use these methods. Do you get great publicity on the harmful effects of oil catastrophes if we actually clean it up and prevent environmental damage? If it could be shown that we have learned to handle the environmental impacts of oil drilling, then the American public looses their revulsion of the dangers. We are no better than teenagers, easily believing in our invulnerability. So if the government wants to pass environmental legislation then there must be environmental damages from this major oil leak. In other words, to pass major environmental legislation, the wildlife, businesses, and the environment must be allowed to suffer. It is a conflict of interest to actually succeed. If your goal is environmental legislation, then any method that can be shown to truly succeed must not be tried or deployed until after the disaster has run its course and your legislation has been passed.

        • Another Voice

          You are absolutely right, Denniso. This belief that our government must do everything in its power to protect ‘American interests’ is the reason why we are being attacked by terrorists today. I guess it’s the same old doctrine of white supremacy which has been ingrained in Anglo-European-American society since the Roman Empire. We believe that white people are superior to other races and that we have the right to take over any land, natural resources and other property of people who are not white in the name of ‘progress’. We tell ourselves that we are trying to ‘spread democracy’, but what we are doing is spreading terrorism. Small wonder that these people are fighting back.

          If it were not for the environmentalists, our whole country would be nothing but a toxic waste dump – which we would refuse to clean up. We would rather poison ourselves than stop the pollution!

          Do we want President Obama to govern as a dictator? This is what the article is suggesting.

          • Dale

            “Toxic Waste Dump”????? like China, the old USSR . . . . you are patently NUTS!!!! Under despot socialist Bamster we will become just like the above totalarian states.
            The Greens own this issue . . . no drilling in Utah, no drilling in 500 feet of water . . . but go offshore where we can’t see you and drill in a mile of water . . . that’s OK!!! Fat Al and the Greens lie like sidewalks . . . their agenda is to have us live like Little House on the Prairie.

          • Dave L

            What color are you? Does color realy matter to you? It does not matter to me. I don’t care if you’re black, white, red, brown, blue, pink, teal, artic blue, or anything else. Seems to me you are a racisist pig!

          • Dan Burke

            “toxic waste dump” LOL. Really? Take something accepted as more toxic than oil. Oh, how about nuclear power? I read something a while back that was very interesting. It was an article that stated nuclear power can be run much cleaner than we do it in the US and then proceeded to state how and why. I am not a nuclear physicist, so I could neither prove nor disprove their rationale. The part that I found interesting was that they claimed that this not only could be done, but in some parts of the world was being done? If I got the basics of it right, it boiled down to a popular basic principle of the “green” movement which we don’t allow the nuclear power plants in America to do. Can you guess how our green movement is so shallow and defeats itself? Hint, recycle. Yes, recycle. The article claimed that much of what our nuclear power pants produce as waste could be recycled and if done right, the end results were not only far less nuclear waste but what was left was also less toxic. So, if that is true, then it perhaps our very efforts to protect America’s ecology that might just be increasing some of our “toxic waste dump.”

        • JC

          If Obama would sit down and shut up and admit he is useless to this situation, maybe he wouldn’t be drawing so much criticism.
          Instead he is saying ridiculous things like “I’m in control”, which he most certainly is not.

          And greed isn’t the motivator here any more than it is down the street at the Mom and Pop Butcher Shop. It’s business, plain and simple. Sadly there has been an environmental tragedy and Obama needs only to offer whatever assistance he is asked for. In the meantime, let the best engineers in the world work on the problem.

          • WarriorH

            And of course he’s going to kick someone’s ass! What a childish fool this bozo is.

          • angel-wanna-be

            JC and Warrior__Obama and his cronies are nothing but shear incompetence and a laughing stock, problem is, there is nothing to laugh at. I’m just sad & sick in the gut with it.

        • Palin12

          dumbistniso… the oil spill is Obummer’s Katrina. Bush took 4 days until he visited Louisiana, Odumbo took 14 days before his visit. There are lots of approaches he could be taking, instead of just pointing fingers and assigning blame. He could call out the Navy and have them circle the spill with their ships. He could order chemical dispersants put in the water. He could have sand barges installed just offshore, but instead waits for an EPA study. Obummer had more important things to do, like flying to Calif to campaign for Boxer.

          • http://none Alex

            Palin12 you are as moronic as your sorry namesake—use a naval armada to circle the spill? You Teabaggers are so stupid and easily manipulated.

          • Palin12

            Alex, first of all, I’m sorry you hate our country. I suspect most liberals feel the same way as you. I have heard the naval armada theory proposed before, do you have any better ideas? Those ships are very tall and we have lots of them. There’s two sets of problems, first to plug the leak, and second to contain it and clean up the mess. We have to look at all kinds of solutions.

          • Save America Susie

            Palin12….Some action is better than no action & just talk, I AGREE. Does the saying: “If at first you don’t succeed try, try again” rings any bells? Several SOLUTIONS that have already been researched have been suggested, but the Government just doesn’t want to listen! They are too bull headed, and want to wait until we have a real “black sand beach” in the gulf. Tourism won’t return for years from now at this rate.

            One suggestion some one had on TV the other night was demonstrated; putting HAY on the oil spill that is floating on the surface, until it ABSORBS the oil and scooping it up into freighters after. It worked in the demonstration very well! And the salt water remained CLEAN underneath.

            Another was a specially treated material that could be laid on the surface of the water & it also absorbed the oil.

            A third solution was a hydro-suction machine which separates the oil from the water and pours the clean salt water off, as it retains the oil into a boat container. I think actor Kevin Costner is providing one for them, at a cost of 23 million dollars, but not sure how far that has gotten. And there needs to be more of them to be successful.

            It seems crazy that it has been 50 some days, and still BP has not gotten a handle on it. Odd in fact, considering we have had oil rigs in the water forever. And they never thought of an answer for a possible spill??? Seems nuts. I think the depth of drilling is a factor, definitely, in not stopping the leak. In shallower water, it could have been suctioned off and the leak dealt with more easily.
            ALASKA seems the best place to drill in the future.

            Otherwise, we will be driving 25 miles an hour in our golf carts & electric cars to work, or riding bicycles like in Asia. If people are going to have a plan to do something, they should also have a plan to solve the problem before this happens. It a way, I can see that the Green people are to blame (INDIRECTLY), because if we were not forced to drill in deep water, this would not be on BO’s plate right now! It could have been more easily fixed.

          • http://www.MCTomkat.com T Eliason

            YOU LIE Palin.

            Obama was there within 3 days.

            You are a lying dog.

        • Ferrosynthesis

          Thin is the stupidest article I’ve seen yet. There is truly something desperately wrong with you people.

          • http://none Alex

            Ferrosynthesis sounds much smarter than all the Teabaggers that flock to this silly site.

          • kate8

            So why are you here?

          • angel-wanna-be

            Alex, and your attraction to this site, would be???

          • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

            You are going to have to do better than that. Name calling to defend or discredit an issue not going to work here.

        • rudya

          Instead of blaming the Green movement, BP, or the government we need to take a good hard look at ourselves. It is we who are driving the demand for oil. It is we who love our cars. It is we who want to live in the suburban sprawl. It is we who do not use public transportation. It is we who do not press our “leaders” to create energy policies that favor renewables and discourage carbon fuels. It is we who do not hold our “leaders” accountable for creating transportation policies that heavily subsidize private transportation while calling investment in public trasnportation socialistic.

          How many of you will vote for your incumbent next election?

          • http://none Alex

            rudya is the only contributor to this wacky Teabagger site who is smarter than me. Intelligence without my vitriol. Bravo!!

          • JC

            You think “our leaders” should be creating transportation policies?
            And the moron below you agrees? You guys are sheep and communists, ergo entirely incapable of an original idea…just like our leaders.
            You are followers and that is demostrated by your post.
            You want change? get “our leaders” the hell out of the way and let free thinking innovators create it. You know! “Capitalists” the ones who made the country great, the ones you commies attack over and over again with your mantra of “greed”.
            The two of you couldn’t organize an outhouse without “our leaders”.

        • TIME

          Well DimwitO.

          Ok lets see we have an issue that involves a lot of UNknow factors, yet your 100% sure that BarryO has had nothing to do with it.
          Also your 100% sure that its BP fault and or GWB did it.
          Yea thats just about what I would expect from someone with an IQ as large as their shoe size.

          As it is anyone with a single brain cell can see that this is a very bad situation.
          I again say there is “NO such thing as an accident.”
          And when Politic’s are involved thats a 100% certainty, and with BarryO’s gang of thugs thats a 1000% certainty.

          Lets review for a moment. BarryO makes a statment two days prior to this event. his statment was made to appeal to all thus showing he is making movment to aid the US in so far as cost of OIL / Gas.

          Yet all the while working in the backround is the EPA Carbon Tax, and the American Power act, as in Cap and Trade with a new name.
          Just to name two issue that will impact the People of the USA in a very Negative way.
          Yet Gas prices during the last 51 days have dropped by quite a bit. Thats with a massive oil spill, so one has to question, hows that work?

          Strage how gas prices have droped by .20 cents per gallon during the same period of time that we have a massive oil leak, and the EPA Carbon Tax and the American Power act on the side boards in congress and the senate..
          Yea right I bet it was GWB that did this. NOT!

          This issue in time I believe will come back to be 100% to BarryO,and his gang of thugs that were behind it. As to BarryO’s – “what ever behavior” thats just more proof of his involvement – that is if you use the standard measure of “LOGIC and Common sence.”

          Now did anyone notice at his press confrence on June 8th 2010 what was missing from around his podium?
          Did you note the nice gold brocade cloth behind him?
          Did you also note that the American Flags were not present at all, as in nowhere in the room was there an American flag.

          You progressive monsters wanted change, that fails to mean that the rest of US wanted to change into a Marxist country.

          And we will toss your nasty butts out very soon. The numbers of people that called me last night about the missing flags, let alone his tone of ass kicking interview is shocking.
          People are waking up by the Hundreds of thousands daily now.

          By November it will be many MILLIONS many that voted for BarryO, this I know as I speak with them daily and they are not happy with his Marxist thinking and actions.

          By the way to you folks that are not thinking that a Marxist government is what you want PLEASE – call, email fax and write your congress and senate people and tell them to vote to STOP as in a NO vote for thr Drudge TAX.

          Tell them to VOTE NO on the EPA Carbon TAX.

          Tell them to support the Murkowski Resolution.

          Tell them to support Dr. Pauls End the HCR Mandate bill HR 4995

          Tell them to support Dr. Pauls bill HR 5444

        • OLD FUDDIE DUDDIE

          Let’s be realistic. The EPA has continuosly cost all of America jobs, opportunities and our children’s inheritance.

          We did not elect the EPA, yet they dictate how we live, how we lose jobs (in the forests, in mining, in energy and more) and they promote higher taxes to support their elitist’s views and dictates.

          All of the people who have been harmed financially from this latest fiasco caused directly because oil companies are not permitted to drill baby drill where the oil is plentiful and easy to extract, should file their law suits directly at the Environmental Protection Agency, and force them individually and cooperatively to reimburse all of the losses for jobs, production, income from tourists, and any other losses incurred.

          It might even be a good idea to sue Al Gore for making a movie that lies, twists the truth and uses our tax monies to promote these lies in our public schools.

          Given the opportunity, most people will protect the environment on their own. We do not need the EPA to be our GREEN GOD! Of all things; even selecting CO2 as a “dangerous gas” that they may attempt to regulate and increase our taxes, our costs, and lose even more jobs.

          So wake up people. Direct your anger at the right agency, and then dismantle it.

          • angel-wanna-be

            old fuddy duddie__You are so absolutely correct!__ we were an industry town 2o-25 years ago_we had steel mills, machine shops, tires___main was lined with shops__every store was filled and prosporing, people lined the streets___in 2010, there are TWO plants LEFT__or I should say, one left__the other one is moving down south!!!!__and ALL the jobs went with them!!!__If you don’t punch a cash register now, or run a computer, your screwed for a job.

          • Hugh Jordan

            I agree with most of what you said but companies wanting to protect the environment at the expense of profits? … please.

            Ask the people who live near strip mines or who live downstream from a factory.

        • Right Wing

          Denniso,

          This is a shameful tactic isn’t it? Imagine the gall of those that blame a catastrophe on the president of the US? But wait…you and your ilk have been doing this with…who was it??? Oh yes it was GWB…our last president. How short your memory is.

          • Denniso

            I guess you mean the failed Iraq war and the Afghan war that began in 2001 and was still hot when Shrub left office in disgrace? And maybe you mean the lax regulations on the financial system w/ the Shrub stacked SEC leading the way to the largest disapearance of people’s money in our history? Or,maybe the lax and cozy regulatory climate at the MMS who were supposed to be inspecting and monitoring the oil rigs at sea? These are the fault of Shrub,and anyone who is not blinded by party loyalty and has paid attention knows it to be true.

            I never blamed Katrina on Shrub,that was a natural disaster,wasn’t it?
            But, I do blame him for allowing the response to be directed by a political appointee hack,’Brownie’,who had absolutely NO experience…he had been the director of a horse show association. Now that should have been criminal…the response WAS terrible and it could have been much better.

            BP and Haliburton and Transocean are responsible for this disaster…the Feds don’t have the technology to deal w/ an oil spill
            50 miles out at sea; maybe they should have it,so should we make the Fed gov’t bigger yet?

          • JeffH

            “the Feds don’t have the technology to deal w/ an oil spill
            50 miles out at sea”. The feds don’t have the leadership to bring the “brightest minds” from around the world together to help solve this BP disaster. Obama expects his Chicago buddies to supply all of the answers and they’re still sitting around on day 51 scratching their arses trying to come up with an answer.
            BP’s gonna pay bigtime for this blowup, but so is the messiah Baaarrraaaccckkk Obama.

          • Palin12

            Dumniso
            Speaking of the Iraq War, Obummer campaigned that we would be out of there within 16 months of his taking office. It’s now 17 months. What gives? Another broken meaningless promise just to get elected?

        • WynDale

          “Obama can’t stop the leak…the gov’t can’t stop the leak. BP is the
          entity w/ the technology in place to deal w/ it and it’s outrageous that they told the gov’t that this sort of thing couldn’t happen because they had ‘failsafe’ procedures in place. Now we find out that they don’t even have the technology to stop a blowout this deep under water.”
          That is the point Denniso! BP and other oil companies should NOT be drilling at that depth. Even if the technology existed, no one in his right mind would suggest drillilng at 30,000 ft. Do you know what the pressures are at that depth, or the strength of currents? So I agree entirely that this problem is the result of the Greens muddled thinking (I’m being generous). But I don’t believe they’re at all sorry. This disaster suits the Greenies just fine. Gives them another reason to denounce all offshore drilling.
          I’m of the opinion that they want to bring this country to its knees.
          What else can one think? They do not like any carbon fuels. They’d like to see them all banned. Go read environmentalists’ websites. They offer no workable alternatives. They somehow think that heavy duty trucking, heavy industry can operate on sun and wind power, conveniently forgetting that to provide sun and wind power will require factories with fossil fuels to manufacture the equipment. They are that naive.
          So what I see is adolsecent utopia writ small.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Just as all you on the left, the left wing liberal media and it followers, all jumped all over Mr. Bush two days after Katrina, saying he didnt act fast enough, and made it a racial issue saying it was because there was black people involved, all as a politcal rallying cry for the left, I have to wonder why after 2 months or however long its been, why this left wing liberal administration has brought nothing to the table to help with this situation, and is content to sit there and point the finger at BP and keep placing blame, while offering no solution. That is the problem I have. And they are not getting crucified by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC. My gosh man, do you know what kind of negative press Mr. Bush would be getting if he was the sitting president right now? They would be attacking him unmercifully for his inaction during this crisis. I would think that Mr. Obama and his cabinet should be offering more at this time than to stand on their pedestal and continue to point fingers. Its time they actually made a plan to do something, other than place blame. And I have long thought it to be dangerous to drill oil out at sea, and knew something like this would happen sooner or later. However, in speaking the truth, had it not been for the environmentalist that keep us from drilling in Alaska, Wyoming, Montana and other places, we wouldnt have had to drill in the gulf, so they bear as much responsibility as BP for this. As does the Obama admin. You see, this rig was set in the gulf during the Obama admin, and didnt even commence drilling until February 2010, well into the Obama admin’s reign. Dont you think that just maybe those in power, at the time this rig was set and started drilling, would have checked in to make sure safety things were being done? Just a thought.

    • Palin12

      Very inspiring Jeff! Thanks!

    • JC

      I’ve had that one saved on my computer for a long time now.
      I play it sometimes when I want to restore my faith in people.
      Imagine a world without politicians telling all of us that someone
      hates us and we have to kill / sanction / embargo / invade those people….”Imagine”.

    • http://none Steve Cobb

      Your insinuation that president Obama is somehow responsible for a private company not running their business in a responsible fashion is astonishing. BP has a responsibility, not to our government, but to their shareholders. Whether regulated or not. It was BP decision to neglect to install a flow preventer, that is required by several governments BTW, BUT NOT OURS, on their own oil wells in order to protect their investment. They ALSO have a direct obligation to you and me to mot foul our planet with oil in pursuit of their business plans. As it turns out BP and their business choices were not regulated enough by our government and our president and our policies. ANY BP shareholder would be shocked at your insinuation that BP is being somehow controlled, or even reigned in, by the Obama, or ANY administration. They are the 4th largest corporation in the world. They have an obligation to conduct their business in a responsible fashion regardless of any political favors they may have been granted. If you recall, BP made a conscious decision NOT to clean their own Alaska pipeline in 2006, causing a huge spill on land, and a complete shutdown of said pipeline. That was their own business choice as well. They are throwing away money, and spoiling our environment by choosing to ignore prudent, profitable business choices. Your willful manipulation of the facts of this case, or adequate assessment of BPs business model are wildly misleading and incorrect. BP is a business, they chose to (offensive word removed) their profit stream through a slew of bad choices. Get a clue and quit trying to put blame where it doesn’t belong. IF, based on BPs actions, our congress and our president, refuses to severely curtail, through regulation, BP and every other potential business decisions in the future, THEN and only then will it be my governments fault. BP exercised EVERY choice in this matter, and they blew it. ! Plain and simple. To place the blame elsewhere is a falsehood. From a business standpoint, they had absolutely NO regulation in pursuing their own choice of deepwater project. Their OWN miscalculations are to blame for the deaths and destruction, NOT to mention the loss of revenue through interruption of oil production, and direct loss of corporate value.
      IF anything, the Obama administration would love to see the BPs of the world be as successful as possible. IF you recall his goal is to help our country achieve independence from foreign oil interests. and while BP is indeed a foreign interest, they are also an employer of Americans, and our ally. THE OBAMA administration was in the process of authorizing more offshore drilling that any previous administration. And apparently without enough regulations. FWIW it was BPs decision where to drill, and BPs miscalculations that led directly to an oil fouled gulf, and a huge loss for BP both through interruption to supply chain, as well as direct corporate loss of worth. To direct blame for any or all of these miscalculations is a falsehood. The blame to the current or any recent administration comes only when you allow for their trust in BP to run their own business efficiently and responsibly. THAT miscalculation by our government will surely lead to more regulations on the BPs of our planet, if , for no other reason to protect their tax base. BP paid a LOT of money in US taxes. BP is not paying those revenues on oil spilled all over our planet. It IS, indeed possible to drill for oil in a safe, responsible, AND profitable fashion that does not spill it all over our planet.
      Are you actually insinuating that it is now our governments ( tax payers) obligation to clean up their spill as well.?
      Sincerely, Steve Cobb

      • http://none Alex

        You are correct on most points, Steve Cobb. One of the dumbest, most two-faced of the many Teabagger “theories” is that “Big Government” needs to get its hands off of business—HA!—except in circumstances such as we see today. Years of Repubelickin’ Party deregulation, starting with the evil Ronald Raygun have delivered us into this mess. Even dunderheaded Teabag queen Michelle Bachman, she of the lazy fair economic school, decried the present administration’s failure to “commandeer all local boats” to do something—OMG–Government seizure of private property!! These Teabagger clowns are such a joke. Hypocrisy or just plain lack of knowledge is what they represent.

        • Kim McGough

          Alex, you may be smart in books but you as dumb as they come when it comes to common sense.

          • JC

            Kim he’s not even book smart. He’s a pseudo intellectual who’s only purpose is to spew misinformation, poison and hatred. In other words a sad pathetic small person who wants to drag everyone down to his level…it’s the nature of all socialists.

      • Vicki

        Obama is the one who claims to be in control. BP claims they do nothing without Obama Admin approval.

        I happen to be one of those who does’t blame Obama (well until he started to insist he was in control ) and I don’t blame Bush for Katrina.

    • Hugh Jordan

      Normally I tend to be on the conservative side, but this is like blaming Eskimos for sinking the Titanic because British shipping interfered with walrus hunting.

      This oil platform in question was built well before Obama took office. He had nothing to do with its design and operation. Like the Titanic disaster, the oil spill was the result of human arrogance and greed – overconfidence in the technology and taking safety shortcuts to maximize profits.

      After watching the BP CEO and other spokes people it is clear that they made a lot of assumptions that were just not grounded in reality. Their ineptitude in dealing with the spill indicates that they had no real plan in place to deal with possible spills.

      There is a lot to complain about Obama, but to stick this one on him is just too big a stretch.

      Fair is fair.

    • Save America Susie

      JeffH, Awesome mix….I was a young teenager when that original song in 1961 came out by Ben E. King. That is why the “acid rock” didn’t sound so good to me when it came on the scene. Oldies Rock in Roll is where its at!

      • Save America Susie

        JeffH, My post ended up so far down from your post at the very top, you can’t really tell what I am referring to. But, of course, its about the song video “Stand by Me” you posted 1st of anyone today.

        • JeffH

          Save America Susie…you betcha!

    • Billy Flake

      You must think the american poeple are as stupid as you are, most of the policies intact today about oil and Iraq were laid down by the Bush administration. Obama inherited a boat load of trouble left by Bush and the repubican party. It will take more than a year or even a term as president to repair the damage done to america by “W” and his cronies. Instead of all the critisism and offer some constuctive advice?
      The big acievments of the previous administration were what? 1. Start two wars. 2. Drive us into a great economic decline paying for said wars. 3.Not take care of the Veterans that that risk life and limb in the two usless wars. Well im so discusted im don’t even feel like writing any more …

      • Steve in Fla

        Hey Billy, You are definitely a flake!
        And Billy just in case you forgot: Obama *asked* for the job.
        He *wanted* to be in charge.

        He didn’t inherit anything at all.

        He asked for all the glory that goes along with being president of the U.S.A. AND with that glory he also gets the problems.

        I don’t understand why you people insist he inherited anything when he asked and campaigned for the job.
        Many people knew he couldn’t handle the job.

        Too bad for you Flake that you didn’t know that also.
        And too bad for our country that the people who voted for Obama didn’t
        know that.

      • Kim McGough

        Yeah but with the other dope and his cronies you can kiss this country goodbye

        • Steve in Fla

          This country started going down in 1913 when the Federal Reserve Act was passed.

          Our country borrows *our* own money from the Federal Reserve which by the way is NOT Federal or a Reserve.

          Our problems aren’t D vs R, blue vs red, cons vs libs. Our problems are the U.S. gov’t vs we the people.
          We have life long politicians who care nothing for the taxpaying American citizen.
          All they care about is their re-elections & how much gov’t (our) money they can siphon off for their friends, lobbyists, & business interests/partners.

          http://goooh.com/home.aspx

          • JC

            Amen That!

          • Claire

            Steve in Fla– Thank you for telling it like it is.

    • chad

      I love that video, it’s amazing. Made my day

  • JeffH

    This pretty well sums it up…

    Don’t expect any leadership on this from the President even though his decision to suspend deepwater drilling off the U.S. coast will have consequences.

    “An extended moratorium on safely producing our oil and natural gas resources from the Gulf of Mexico would create a moratorium on economic growth and job creation,” said Jack Gerard, chief executive of the American petroleum Institute.

    It’s worth noting that the Gulf of Mexico currently produces about 1.6 million barrels of oil per day—an amount larger than the output of Canada’s oil sands. It was expected to grow to 1.9 million barrels by 2025. But the jury is out on this until Obama—”
    —”The Chosen One”—chooses leadership over politics and stops this catastrophe.

    Do not forget that Cap and Trade is the answer for this “questionable”
    disaster and lack of response.

    • Denny

      Doesn’t anyone getit? The administration is purposly dragging its feet. Never let a good crisis go to waste. The bigger the spill, the bigger the environmental disaster, the more reason to shut down the oil off the coast. Even though the first well went in in 1948. He pomosedin his campaign speecches to bankrupt coal and oil companies. The oil business is huge in La. To close it would put thousands out of work. And make us even more dependent on foeign oil. The longer they wait and stumble around, the bigger disaster. Think about it.

      • insanityprevails

        Denny, You scare the hell out of me, but that’s only because I fear you are right.

      • Nellie CA

        you are right! I don’t like the idea that we are dependant on foreign oil, two reasons! If we are in a war they can shut us off, the cost of gas will go up.
        John Myers is right on with this spill. Why are we cleaning this up when the oil company is owned by a foreign country? Do I have this information wrong?
        November is out chance too VOTE them out! I don’t trust Obama!
        I am for AZ laws and getting back too the constutional laws, I have read the illegal and immigration laws and Jan Brewer is doing the right thing. GOD BLESS AMERICA

        • http://none Alex

          Nellie–you complain about the cost of gasoline! How ignorant are you? The drivers in the White Estates of America have always paid gas prices far below those in the civilized world because of Welfare—Corporate Welfare created artificially low gas prices so as to allow the complete subjugation of this wretched nation to the automobile. We are a lazy and most selfish people. We have allowed ourselves to destroy Public Transportation by underwriting the entire automobile industry. Gasoline price whiners like you share great responsibility for the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, along with NASSCAR and the dopes who ruin publi lands with off-road vehicles, jetskis, and snowmobiles. This country is a cerebral wasteland. All the smart people live in the blue states–the red states are peopled by violent Christian terrorists, crybaby caucasians who miss the Good Ol’ Days when they could celebrate with their children beneath the swaying bodies of lynched black people, and simply foolish Taebagger clowns like yourself. Grow up.

          • Vicki

            Hmmm. So many race cards in your hand there Alex. Lots of other bigot cards too.

          • Save America Susie

            Alex, Many of us came here AFTER slavery was abolished. AFTER those terrible times. Our ancestors NEVER owned slaves! In fact were SERFS on England’s Grand Estates. So in effect were “white slaves”. You can’t blame everyone. And not every black man was a slave. Many free black men owned slaves–Read history. Its still going on in Africa now. Go and check it and see for yourself. Its not a race thing, its an unfortunate human condition and it’s an evil thing. All peoples of VARIOUS colors throughout time have been slaves….Blacks are not the only ones.

            My friends come from ALL races and ALL colors. Do yours?

          • Darwin

            Alex you misguided racist moron you are such an incredible intellect you should probably just do the honorable thing and take yourself out!It has become obviuos reading your your babbling drivel that your talents are being wasted in this world!!

          • Dave L

            You could get a job…that might help. Which Kinko’s did you travel to, to post this most excellent info? HMMMMM?

          • Kim McGough

            low gas prices here, well the other countries charge high taxes, and it is not the christians who are violent, just people without common sense and that like to think they have all the answers.

          • JC

            Alex you missed a few people in your great spewing of poison there.
            Maybe just sit down relax and write it all down for next time…Oh! and have a cookie with some milk if it’s not too close to bed time. :)

          • Allan

            This is among the most shameful comments from an alleged American that I have read in some time. A sociopath of this caliber should fit in nicely at the Red and Black Cafe in Portland, Oregon, where they currently bar military, police, and firefighters from their premises.

      • SAL

        The administration is purposely dragging it’s feet on this oil spill. Most people can see right through this. We need the world to open up their eyes.

      • Carol

        Denny, Insanity prevails and Nellie have said it all…. and I am afraid they have hit the mark…. this is what I have been thinking all along. Before BO/BS was elected I tried to tell people we would be in trouble and I was afraid of what would lie ahead. Scoffed and ridiculed, told, “only fear is fear itself” I wish I had been wrong… I often wonder what really started the Oil Well to explode… so convenient after BO and his BS about exploration in an unlikely location, this pumping, thriving well explodes and he says shut the well down…. Everything he touches turns to shambles. VOTE-VOTE-VOTE every election coming to get them out of office and save our country.

      • EltonJ

        Hmm. Maybe you should take a look at this prophesy.

        “INDUSTRIES COLLAPSE
        “I see industries collapse. The gasoline and oil industry is symbolized to me by a great pipeline that extends out of the earth a mile or so into the sky, thence a mile to the north, and thence down to the earth. Then I see this great man-made structure is leaking badly at the south, then it springs a leak at the north, and then it falls northward with a mighty crash.

        “Thus it shall come to pass that the gasoline and oil business shall first fall in the south, and it shall spread to the north, until there is a complete oil and gasoline failure. And none shall be hauled over the rails because of the great failure. Traffic and industries shall cease because of want of oil and gas, and great consternation shall seize upon man.”

        I think because of this spill, the oil industry will fail in the south and there will be a domino effect. You can blame Obama’s inneffectual leadership, or you can blame BP. but to be sure. . . this is all part of end days prophecy. The oil leak is another warning.

        • Vicki

          A link to the source of your prophecy might be nice.

      • refuse2lose

        And we also have the proof that BP sold 40 million of its own shares right b4 the explosion,Goldman Sachs sold more than that of BP’s stock a month b4 the explosion,and Halliburton,Cheney’s old stomping grounds bought a company called Boots and Coots just a week b4 the explosion.What does this company Halliburton bought specialize in???OIL RIG EXPLOSIONS…….connect the dots people,this is either an inside job or their was insider knowledge that something was close to blowing.

        • JC

          Remind you of anything?

      • DebbieS

        Denny, thanks for saying what I’ve been saying ever since we realized that bo is not going to take charge on this. He and his cronies actually want this to be bad, so bad that he will use it to advance his cap n tax fiasco. “Never let a good crisis……blah blah”
        Does anyone have any info about the microbes that actually eat the oil and leave the environment cleaner? I’ve seen a video, and I hear there is tons of this stuff sitting in a warehouse ready to go. So far I haven’t heard or read anything negative about it. That, to me proof that this administration is working to bring down our great country.

        • angel-wanna-be

          DebbieS, BP,Obambi and his cronies, said at one point, they were going to burn the oil off the surface, that never materialized either.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      All I continue to see and hear is the finger pointing placing blame, with no solutions. Yes, it is BP’s fault. But also, yes it is our Federal Government who should be able to step up and do something, other than stand there and point the finger. We dont need blame now, we need solutions. You got elected pointing the finger and placing blame, without offering any solutions to anything, and still, a year and a half later, the same rhetoric, standing on the pedestal, pointing fingers and placing blame. Will there ever come a time when you and your administration come up with a good solution to anything? I wont hold my breath.

      • Norm

        Beberoni
        Let me see. You’re mad because there’s not enough government intervention into the private sector.
        The government should have forced safety standards and backup alternatives BEFORE risky drilling coud occur, and the government should be somehow fixing the mess using all its power and money(or iou’s). It’s Obama’s fault after all.
        You closet progressive you!
        Rand Paul thinks that Obama shouldn’t even criticize BP.

        • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

          A garbage truck should be able to pick up garbage without being mired in regulation. They should not be able to go down the street running people over or be able to dump the garbage on your property. We have garbage on our property right now. Why would the government not get involved? You think that because Americans do not want fascism it means at the same time we want lawlessness. Obama wants to create more regulation and yet ignores existing law. Why is Obama stopping Louisanna from implementing a defense plan. Why is Obama stoping AZ from implementing a defense plan. Incompetncy or ideology? You choose. The Federal Government has jurisdiction and Obama claims he is on top of it.

          • JC

            Progressives always go to ridiculous extremes in order to make ridiculous points.

          • DaveH

            Norm can’t distinguish between burdening good companies with piles of useless paperwork, and punishing those companies who have actually done something wrong.
            Forgive Norm. He’s just a Liberal. You don’t actually expect him to do any deep thinking, do you?

        • Yvan

          Norm, you’re right. Its call cause and effect. Preventing is lot easier than fixing after the fact. The safety was left to private enterprise with the result that we see now. Same thing with all the deregulation of Reagan. Way to go Republicans, now you can blame Obama for all the ramifications. Scare the hell out of everybody, take control of the Country and start an other war.

          • DaveH

            Dream on Liberal. That “prevention” has resulted in a National Debt of $13,000,000,000,000. The only things that Big Government has prevented is prosperity for the citizens, and productive work for the Government employees.

          • JeffH

            Gee whiz Yvan, who is the responsible party for making sure BP/Horizon had met all the correct functioning safety equipment?
            The corrupt government agency MMS!
            Your liberal spin doesn’t play out here…find another website to work on.

          • http://david_spitler@hotmail.com Dave S

            first off Reagan did not deregulate the industries you state.Carter did the first set of deregulation for the airlines, many of which are out of business now. second does anyone remember the energy crises of the late seventies? caused by a democrat who ordered oil wells to stop pumping oil out of the ground(78-79). next bill clinton deregulated the banking industry and the insurance companies. look at wall street now, and obama care. well, we know what will happen on that. all three are democrats. the republicans have slowed some of this down but GWB did not need the Patriot act either, to have the government listen to phone calls trying to figure out who are the terrorists

        • Dave L

          Name me a regulation that has stoped a natural disaster from happening. Maybe if we would have regulated Hitler from not happening we would be in better shape today? I am also pissed that all of the news programs refer to Hitler as a “Right wing movement” what a joke!

          • Save America Susie

            Dave L, Another misconception about Hitler is that he was a Christian. He was NOT a Christian. History shows he was raised a Catholic and then left the Faith. And when he was in power over Germany he tried to raise the Norse gods, by dabbling in the occult and black magic.
            He thought it would win him the world. In the end, all it did was win him a self-inflicted bullet in the head. His greed, prejudice & murder of innocents were his demise. “Karma” has a way of coming back to get you.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          When it comes to environment protection, where something this bad has the potential to happen, yeah buddy, you better believe the government should have all the safety precautions checked out before you let an oil rig be hauled into the Gulf and drill 5000 feet down underwater. And this admin didnt do any of that, and now that it has happened, they have done nothing but point fingers and place blame. Yes, I do know its BP’s fault, and yes, BP should pay. But yes also, the Obama admin should have made sure safety precautions were taken, and they didnt do it, and they have not acted at all to form a solution. You all on the left cried and cried for Bush’s head 2 days after Katrina, saying that the government let them down because they are black. Well excuse me, 3 days later the national guard was on the scene. In this event, its been 2 months, and Obama and his horde of no doers, has done nothing but demonize BP and attack, attack, attack, but isnt being the leader of this country supposed to maybe formulate some kind of response to help, instead of just standing on their soap box and criticizing? Just a thought. A little pulling together would help, instead of constant division and finger pointing. But hey, it got him elected didnt it? You can back this kind of in-action, but Im not going to do it.

      • Kinetic1

        What is it you are expecting the government to do? Yes, the MMS failed in their duty to oversee BP. Yes, they should never have given BP a pass on regulations. That’s in the past. I don’t know how long ago the current MMS team was put in place, but it’s time to clean house and insure that they are no longer so easily influenced by the oil industry.

        Now to the spill. The analogy in a previous post about WWII made little sense. Our military is trained and equipped to deal with attacks. We know how to handle enemy forces. This is an oil rig failure. BP is supposed to be the expert, but all they did was lie about their preparedness and the true size of the problem. Our government does not have the equipment to fix broken wells. Do you want them to take the Russian approach and nuke the well head? BP should have drilled a relief well at the same time as the main well, simple as that. We are now seeing potently disastrous results from trying to force the oil back, making it clear that relieving the pressure is the only answer.

        Everyone complains that the president has not shown enough concern. They want to see him on site, looking at the damage and consoling people. Well I lived through 3 earthquakes in a 24 hour period, all 6.8 or better. I saw houses split in half. I helped people get out of their homes after the main structure had jumped off the foundation. The governor came to see our town and all he did was get in the way. What good does it do to spend thousands of dollars on transportation and security? I’d rather the government send experts to evaluate the problem and report back to the white house with their recommendations. Don’t waste our money on photo opps, send it to help clean up the disaster.

        • JeffH

          Kinetic1, the president handled this disaster politicaly. There should have been a decision made within 48 hrs of the blowup to declare a national disaster in the gulf. The president is every bit as guilty as BP is for using this as a political stepping stone to stop all drilling and push his “green” agenda of Cap & Trade.
          There is no leadership in DC other than leading the poor and oppressed to the government feeder.

        • Lewis Munn

          We have 10′s of thousands of good plumbers. Even I as an amateur know about making expanding plugs to fit in a pipe and expand to seal it off.

          Yet I see NO call for experienced plumbers to come to the aid and seal it. Why not??

          Does sound to me like someone wants the leak to go on and on for some political reasons! Maybe BP is not as responsible as we think?? Maybe they are not being permitted to take care of things fully until the damage is to a level to trigger a massive political uprising??

          Look at Muslim History. They do not count the costs to expand their sphere of control!!

          I do think we need more data about the effects of nuking a leaky well, for the spread of radioactivity, and possible cracking of the rocks and making many leaks!

          And I think we need to know who and why sent the blowout protector that was up for service back down in defective condition! This seems to have been quietly set aside.

          Why cannot they put a silicone sealing gasket on the end of a pipe the just slips over the fractured pipe, and their hose on it at the other end, and capture ALL the oil, rather than just part? Weight the lower end if needed to keep it in place! I am dubious about the engineering I am apparently seeing used, vs good common plumbing techniques!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            You cannot tell me that with all the technology available in the United States and in the world, that they cannot make this leak cease to exist. It is flowing for one reason alone, political agenda. Thats it. As you say, there are many plugs that could seal this off, and instead they just keep letting it flow, and use it as a tool to blame the other side, to group them with big oil and demonize them, when this admin has taken and continues to take as much if not more oil money that anyone else. Big money bought this mess, and now big money needs to pay to clean up and stop this mess. But dirty politicians collecting this big money from big oil, are using this for their own political benefit, when in fact, both sides got dirty hands from dirty oil.

    • Palin12

      JeffH, does this Alex guy above sound like someone familiar, under a different name? Clue: all ranting and raving, no facts, constant use of the term “Teabagger”?

      • JeffH

        Palin12…same ol same ol…different day. I just can’t waste my time addressing the baited hook.

  • viktor leben

    The President of the USA has de facto resigned his military duties.

    This is an SOS to the rest of the world, We need another country (possibly with nukes) to seal this rupture. It’s a unprecedented man made ecological disaster.

    US to world, Help us seal the leak ! Our President is mad ….

    • Kinetic1

      NUKES! Are you nuts? Hey, lets poison the sea bed for hundreds, maybe thousands of years by attempting to glassify the hole. It may not hold, and the experts say it might cause enough back pressure to create dozens of mini leaks in the sea bed, but why not!

      This is why you don’t ask the government to fix something that is outside of their expertise. Bombs are not always the answer. Unfortunately BP chose to advance their drilling science but failed to do the same with safety measures. The back up wells should do the job. If only they had drilled in advance.

      • viktor leben

        Kinetic1,

        Whatever it takes …. If you got to nuke it, NUKE IT ! We can’t wait any longer. Here’s a plan …..

        1) Get the Army and Navy engineers and whatever engineers we can muster (offer the civiliams alot of money for their expertise) …

        2) Use our massive NAVY to get whatever ships, subs or equipment that isnecessary to solve the problem. If this means the US gov’t has to bribe (offer mucho money) or seize (with compensation) it’s got to be done NOW ….

        It seems President Obama thinks this is a “learning moment” … This isn’t college .. this is the real world. Either your the commander in chief or your not . If Obama can’t make the tough decisions, he should resign. Hear that Mr. President ? You LEAD or GET OUT OF THE WAY…..

  • hflashman

    Another Obama bash coming up this morning. Will there be a mention of Cheney’s ‘task force’ in the eary ’00s which was held in secret and surprisingly no minutes exist? Will there be mention of relaxing regulatory safeguards and decreasing the number of inspectors? Will there be mention that the permits were held up until the regs were ‘reinterpreted’ then approved? Will there be mention that there was never any effort for the preceding years (going well back not just the Bush/Cheney destructive years) to wean us off this exhaustable and increasingly scarce oil?

    And will anyone sit back, do the math, and realize there is no way we can “drill baby drill” our way to economic freedom? The numbers do not match up.

    And will there be anyone pointing out that in the past two years we have been hit with the Perfect Storm of Economic, Foeign, and Energy issues that all came together in fruition of the eight years of Bush/Cheney and that anyone with half a thought procss would know such isn’t “fixed’ overnight? Finally, will there be anyone thoday suggesting that instead of saying ‘no” to everything, perhaps just once the GOP can offer an alternative to the policies of Obama? (To me, if there aren’t options and alternatives offered by the GOP, then there is no other way to proceed. Think about that…if Obama is wrong, where are the GOP alternatives being offered up for discussion? Ooops….)

    This will be an interesting watch on this thread today.

    • Joe

      Stay on subject since you brought up the economy and past, lets go to the front page of the papers when the DEMwits decided every poor person should have a big house and not be responsible for their mortages or the economic bust of the country there of….1993, 1998…years seem familiar to you Clinton idolatrous zombies. Every administration has a cuppable hand in the economy since we moved away from State’s accountability and start allowing the Feds to handle everything. That’s why with this idget in control now we are on a superhighway to “hell” morally and fiscally. Have a nice day!

      • Nellie CA

        The Obama Administration is a mess! One of the things that Obama did as a Senator! HE sued the banks because they didn’t give low income people loans for home. Of course they couldn’t afford these homes! This same thing with the housing industry happened 3 times in my life time! What part of this doesn’t Washington crooks understand? We had a boom in 70, 90 and now! the government baling out the banks on bad loans in the housing industery.
        I am not sure if this is true but the deep drilling started in 2/10 during the Obama administration. Where is is staff on these regulations?

      • sylvia

        If I remember right it was also Bill Clinton that set a cap on what the oil CO. would have to pay for damage control. So my question is, now that the GOV. has sent BP a bill for an enormous amount , will they have the moneys to pay the liabilities to the ones that were killed, and the damage to the eco system as well as the loss of JOBS of the shrimpers and fishermen etc. Bill Clinton told them go ahead do the drilling worry about the errors & disasters later you only have to pay XXX amount any way. Then there was the regulators that were no doing their job. BP did NOT do their job either. Obama knew that if he started to tell them what they had to do then HE owned the SPILL, NOT BP.

        • Claire

          sylvia–Very true, NONE of them were doing their job.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Right out of the play book. Lets blame Bush and Cheney, and dont forget Haliburton, instead of offering solutions and answers. Its always so easy to blame others. Its hard to provide answers, but as the leader of the United States, you should be working to find answers and solutions, and not be a low life like your followers like hflashman who are content to do nothing but point fingers to hide the fact that they have nothing to offer. Amazing isnt it. Just amazing.

      • Norm

        Beberoni
        The US government isn’t in the oil bussiness.
        This is a very tricky situation requiring knowledge, expertise and a lot of money. BP would rather waste money on PR adds than in fixing the problem. And the CEO doesn’t want to miss paying 10 billion $ in stock dividends this month.

        But let’s blame Obama. He’s no more responsible than Bush was for 9/11.

        • Lewis Munn

          Bush offered help to Katrina, but it was refused by the leaders, and he did not have authority to overrode them

          With Katrina, the local and state folks were refusing aid and direction for a certain disaster, because they wanted to use the dead and injured people to help their own political ambitions by spiting the opposing political party.

          Here you have a different situation entirely. The President does not want to help, even with the cleanup, but wants to pass the blame. And get more power..unless you want to compare with with the Mayor of NOLA

          I still will say I think he needs to get a bunch of good plumbers together and let them, as experienced plumbers, figure a way to stop the leak…I can think of several potentials and I am not even a plumber. Just fix my own home plumbing, without a government mandate. Or funding.

          We have the know-how if it is marshalled and given the incentive!

          Obama threatening BP is not going to get a lot done; they are too big to worry much about his yammering. And they want as much of their oil as they can get, pious words on environmental concerns to the contrary.

          Puttimg s funnel up in the water way overhead is not going to do a lot.

          I do not think Obama is skinny enough to fit into the pipe and choke off the flow of oil, but he sure has not come up with any better ideas! Or gone to people who might know, that I can see.

          Where ARE America’s plumbers and the Plumbing Union? Conspicuous by their absence…or is the new managed news so far as to shut them up?

          Instead of pointing fingers and threatening, let’s set some wrenches on bolts. Take a few nuts down with them, and leave the rest up top to yammer politics at each other!!

          I know of no time in history when arguing politics fixed a leaky pipe!

    • http://www.personalliberty.com/john-myers/it%e2%80%99s-the-greens-that-sowed-the-seeds-of-the-gulf-oildisaster/?replytocom=146421#respond shatree

      hflashman you are 100% correct.

      Joe brainless republican
      Beberoni stupid republican
      Barb Totally brainless republican

      • TIME

        Norm, new name same mindless post.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        Shatree clueless Liberal.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Brainless? Exactly how do you justify such an assertion? Have you an MRI of their skull? Or, is it your jealousy that some of us actually use our brains?

      • JC

        Another self entitled and petulant “give me everything” child.

    • Ms. Jones

      Oh, there you go again. It’s all GWB and Cheney’s fault! YOU do the math: Obama has been in office 18 months, supported by a Democratic majority in both houses. He was able to ram through Obamacare against the will of 68% of Americans with his Chicago-style arm twisting. Surely he could have reversed the policies of the Bush/Cheney era IF he had he wanted to. Obama has used every “crisis” to consolidate power to the federal government, increasing its stranglehold on American taxpayers. Not to mention the fact that dependence on foreign oil enriches the Obamessiah’s Muslim pals. Not surprising from a man whose inner circle includes so many anti-Americans: Rev. Jeremiah Wright (“God damn America”), Michelle Obama (“I’ve never been proud of this country until now”), William the Weatherman Ayers, Pentagon bomber (“We didn’t go far enough”) et al. Obama won’t be satisfied until our country is destroyed from within, ushering in a green/socialist “one world order” with himself as Eternal Emperor.

      Betcha the only response I get by way of debate is “You’re a racist”. It’s the Left playbook: blame Bush for everything, then silence dissenters with cries of racism.

      • Lewis Munn

        Ms Jones,

        I have nothing bad to say to you. Politicians, especially venal ones with concealed objectives, are usually more in the way than helping.

        IF Mr. Obama called on all American Plumbers to provide good solutions to the leak, I’d bet there would be a deluge, and a competent board of top industrial plumbers could sift out several good solutions in a matter of a f

        Stop worrying about getting all the oil you can; shut the well down with a solid plug, and then look at options to get the oil out! I have enough amateur experience at my own home with leaky piping and pouring water to have ideas I think would work. And work quickly. And be able to be drilled back out or removed when the needed equipme
        3nt to control the flow and astop the leaks while getting the oil out could be implemented!

        We could have both I am sure starting with stopping the gusher in a few days, if we use our home-grown talent and stop bickering and get to work on the job!

        Offer $50K for the solution that works!

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Stop making excuses. Excuses are followed by failure. Obama has shown nothing but incompetency and the liberal answer is ‘quickly shift the blame’ and maybe no one will hold us accountable.

    • Ono Nadagin

      Ok I get it… pass the buck.. nothing is Obamas fault or responsibility. So by your own logic nothing is Bush’s fault either it is Clinton’s and nothing is Clinton’s it is Bush Sr and then man we gotta lay it on Reagan and then Carter’s. Or should we just put the blame on God as he started it all by creating us and the oil.

      Obama should take the advice he gave students at Kalamazo High School yesterday…. ‘Dont make excuses, Dont pass the buck’

      • Kinetic1

        No, let’s not pass the buck. President Obama knew, just as all of us did that the previous administration was too close to the oil industry and Halaburton (Bush’s own MMA determined that Haliburton was responsible for 50% of the failed concrete in 36 rig failures.) Obama should have cleaned house and brought in people who were not sleeping with oil industry “representatives.” Maybe then BP would have been forced to follow the regulations we have in place. They may have even required drilling a relief well like they do in other countries. Unfortunately he has been distracted by the failing economy left to him, the housing crises that he inherited, skyrocketing unemployment and a republican party that just wants to play political games.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Kinetic1,
          Your rants are not only predictable and tiresome. They are just plain wrong. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Once-a-government-pet-BP-now-a-capitalist-tool-95942659.html
          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • JeffH

            Bob, Thanks for the wonderful link…I think everyone should check it out and read it…

            Once a government pet, BP now a capitalist tool
            By: Timothy P. Carney
            Examiner Columnist
            June 9, 2010

        • JC

          K1 hears somethuing for you too wrap your head around…ALL government is too close to ALL Industries. It’s called economic fascism and it is alive and well in the USA.
          Maybe get unwrapped from the left/right, red/blue thing.
          This problem is common to all governments…ALL governments.
          And is the single greatest challenge faced by all Americans.
          We have no shortage of administration that took an active role in running our paper thin “currency system” into the ground and a “system” of corruption in the White House.
          And over several decades the system has decayed into our present situation.

          I’m starting to think the problem is systemic.
          What do you think?

        • coal miner

          Kinetic1

          We need more regulations.

          english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?no=299175&rel_no=1 · Cached page

    • David

      I agree. We are paying, and will continue to pay, a huge price for the LONG TERM damage as a result of the incompetence and corruption of the Bush/Cheney years. Where are the Republican/Conservative problem-solving alternatives you ask? They don’t have any. All they have is no, fear mongering, hate, and lies to cover their 6.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        What you are saying is really not true. Bobby Jangle wants to implement defensives measures in Louisianna and has a plan but Obama and Federal Regulators have not given him the okay. Sarah Palin told him to move ahead with his plan becaused Obama seems to be paralized as a leader. The problem is getting worse as the Obama think tank is showing a pattern of not being able to handle problems.

    • JC

      Who’s in power…”right now”?
      Focus flashman, focus!

    • DaveH

      What about Genghis Khan? Or Attila the Hun? Are you just going to leave them out, Flashman?
      You are just supporting the truth that Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

    • JeffH

      With any luck hflashman, all you’ll do is watch and not speak your ancient but common rhetoric. Isn’t it break tme yet?

    • Danny Buckles

      IN answer to you :hflashman: I wondered how and when some idiot would try to twist the attention to Bush and Cheney for this nearly two year later disaster under the watch of obama. You obamanites remind me of a capitive defending their captor. I know that this is a total waste of words for your sake at present. But in the near future when his total absence of leadership qualities has surpassed the zone of recovery try to remember your blind decisions to be led by a blind leader.I know that this is going to come as a terrible surprize to you but Bush and Cheney are no longer in any position of power. You may want to inform obama of this fact as well. He seems to be operating under the same delusion as you are.Or maybe this is George Washinton’s fault.

      • DaveH

        Danny,
        Have you ever known a Liberal to admit they were wrong? There might be a few out there that would, but they are a rare breed.

    • Allan

      Republicans will surge in November and have more control.
      They will govern more responsively for a while.
      This is better than insane Democrat spending and socialism.

  • Dave Gross

    Once again bash Obama for the Oil empire that existed in the white house for eight years. If Republican had their way we would have oil wells everywhere with no government regulation. You guys want small government but when something happens you think government should solve every problem. You cannon have it both ways. Tell all your Republican friends to give up farm subsidies, social security and any other government hand outs if you want smaller government.

    • jason

      The BP drilling plan approved April 6, 2010, for the site that is now the cause of the Gulf disaster, says that “a scenario for a potential blowout of the well from which BP would expect to have the highest volume of liquid hydrocarbons is not required for the operations proposed in this EP.”

      MMS approved a different BP drilling plan on May 5, 2010, providing the similar “Blowout Scenario,” stating: “Information not required for activities proposed in this Initial Exploration Plan.”

      Suckling said that MMS also had the option of rejecting the off-shore drilling proposals but “that’s not even a concept in the MMS.” Suckling said that the fact that BP had previously claimed a blowout wasn’t possible should make all similar claims suspect.

      “It is inconceivable that MMS could look out its window at what is likely the worst oil spill in American history, then rubber stamp new BP drilling permits based on BP’s patently false statements that an oil spill cannot occur and would not be dangerous if it did,” Suckling said. “Heads need to start rolling at MMS.”

      Suckling says that since April 20, 2010, the day of the BP disaster, MMS has approved 27 new offshore drilling projects, 26 of which were approved “under the same environmental review exemption used to approve the disastrous BP drilling that is fouling the Gulf and its wildlife.”

      • JeffH

        jason, don’t confuse them with facts.

    • DaveH

      Do you realize, Dave, that regulations do not prevent accidents? It has been proven over and over again, that they don’t. This oil spill is the latest example. Do you think a company wants to lose Billions of dollars? Do you think spending millions on regulatory paperwork somehow better equips companies to avoid failure? Do we think, as taxpayers, that spending trillions on all this Big Government is cheaper than the alternative? I don’t.
      It has always amazed me that so many people will spend more on government to protect against a possible occurance than the actual occurance would cost.

      Shed the Blinders. Vote Libertarian. Get this country back to the good life for all but the people currently sucking off the taxpayer teet.

      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • Kinetic1

        BP avoided the regulations that were in place. They lobby to stop further regulation that would require them to take actions that would have allowed them to stop this leak on day one. This isn’t proof that regulation doesn’t work, it’s proof that the regulations must be enforced. Of course BP doesn’t want to spend billions on this clean up, but they risked it by not using a backup valve to save half a million. Just like Ford ignored the Pinto and the Explorer, they weigh the risk and the costs and gamble on not getting caught. Don’t tell me that money is not more important then life to them. One big corporation after another has proven that money is all that matters.

        • DaveH

          They ignored the regulations? I assume you are going to post references to back up that statement.

          • DaveH

            You are wrong on both counts about Ford. It just happens that they became the target of zealous attorneys in this day and age where so many people are seeking fortune in the courts.
            My favorite aunt and my great-grandfather died in a very similar incident but in a Rambler in 1970. Did Rambler get sued? No. Fiery car deaths are by no means a rare event.
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv4n2/v4n2-4.pdf
            Cars are not safe. That is a fact. But it is even more dangerous to be without the transportation to life-sustaining employment. Most of us would starve to death without the utility of our vehicles.
            I have driven SUVs for 20 years and I sometimes drive them pretty fast. Yes, they have higher centers of gravity and are more prone to rollover. No, they won’t roll over unless somebody is driving recklessly. Let’s get over the Liberal mentality of rewarding the irresponsible people at the expense of others.

        • Allan

          You are as naiive to think that all corporations care about is money, as you are to think that all government cares about is service to its voters.

          What a terrible fate to be a liberal. Evil on one side, dishonesty and incompetence on the other. Trapped in the middle with feelings of entitlement.

    • Save America Susie

      Dave Gross, The thing is, America has had an oil industry for over 100 years. Not just the last 8 years. We can’t really blame “W” for this one. BP is a British Company. And it wasn’t on “W” watch. If we would have OK drilling in ANWR, this wouldn’t be happening now. The depth of the drill is the problem.

  • Pat Ridge

    I never,never heard such nonsense in all my life—who gave the license for BP to drill in the Gulf ???That’s right GWB,remember guys “Drill,Baby Drill”.As Obama acting very slow I would agree with on that one but BP is a private company,are you not same guys who are shouting from the Rooftops for the Federal Government to stay the hell of business but when something disastrous happens eg Banks,Oil Spills etc blame the President especially if he is a Democrat!!!!Very Selective memories you Repulicians have eg Reagan being Buddy,Buddy with Saddam,Talban etc remember those days guys????

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      February 2010, the date that Deep Water Horizon “STARTED” drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Seems to me, that Obama has been president since 2008. So he was president when they moved it there, and when they started drilling there. But somehow its Bush’s fault. Hmm. So they werent even drilling there when Bush was president, yet its all Bush and Cheney’s fault. Wow. How simple of a life some of you must live, that everything that happens is Bush/Cheney’s fault. They were out of office over a year before this thing was even moved here, let alone had started drilling. So Obama comes in, its not his responsibility to make sure things are safe? He doesnt have any responsibility in making sure safeguards are in place, since he is the head cheese now? Wow, Imagine that, another free pass for Obama. You lefties are sick. Get a life, and get educated. Bush and Cheney were gone over a year before this rig was even moved into the Gulf where it blew up. Find out why the current admin didnt take precautions before letting them set this up here. Then start pointing fingers at those involved at the time, not somebody who has been gone before it started.

      • Norm

        Drill baby Drill was the mantra of Bush, Cheney, McCain and Sarah(mammy yokum) Palin.

        • Ono Nadagin

          If you were intellectually honest you would admit that republicans/conservatives are for ‘Drill Baby Drilling’ in safer more easilyu accessable areas, and want it easier for companies be able to drill to lesson our need for non domestic sources of oil.

          More oil is spilt every year by ships transporting oil than this spill. That not getting mentioned because it would shed light on the need for domestic shore based and near shore based drilling and that would hurt leftist mean green adgenda.

          Also American uses far more oil in a day than has been spilt at the accident so far. So until all of you hypocrits get rid of your cars…go with out heating and cooling your homes…. dont buy anything from a store you are fueling the fire of petroleum use in this country.

          • Kinetic1

            Attack us for our cars if you will (though many of us are the ones pushing for higher milage and alternative fuels) but back off on the heating and cooling. I don’t use oil to heat my home, and very little electricity in this country is generated with oil. The bulk of the oil is used in cars and trucks. That is why my wife commutes by bus. A cleaner burning propane bus, no less.

          • William Lord

            Well then you have nothing to complain about. The government made it easy for them to drill their well and we have to bear the consequences. If the well was a bad risk then maybe they shouldn’t have drilled but in unregulated free enterprise companies are supposed to bear the responsibility for bad decisions made in pursuit of profit (or are there exceptions for those with the most clout?). I would like to know where you got your statistics on the amount of oil spilled world wide. From BP? Is that relvant when compared to it being all in one area and do we realy know how much oil will eventually come out before or if we ever get it plugged? The amount of oil used daily vs. the amount gushing from the spill is fairly meaningless in assesing the consequences of this disaster. Why not compare the costs of clean-up vs. jobs lost in the Gulf and the permanent damage that will result? And before all costs (if they can be quanitied) will BP actually pay after their lawyers get in court?

        • JC

          Mammy yokum! hahahahaha
          I guess that’s about right coming from a pseudo intellectual socialist sycophant. I’ll bet you’d pee if someone fired a gun near you. Happy Latte Licking to you Norm…and on to another Starbuck’s.

          • JeffH

            JC, I like it when a plan comes together…and of course Normy gets that tingly feeling down his leg just infatuating about Palin…OMG!

          • Norm

            JC
            I’ve actually got a lot of experience with firearms, having grown up in a rural New England area. You’d be wise to avoid being on the bussiness end of my rifle.

          • JC

            Oh! Well then, I take it all back. How dare I insult a self appointed country gentleman of new England stature just for being a vile communist. I’m sure that it is perfectly acceptable where you are from. So enjoy your insanity and try not to shoot anyone in your frenzy of loathing for your fellow Americans.

      • Save America Susie

        Beberoni, Good points….BO was giving a speech just the other day about NOT pointing fingers at anyone, and taking personal responsibility for our actions. It was at a school. But yet he’s been blaming and pointing fingers for 3 1/2 years now. 2 years campaigning and almost 1 1/2 in office. All that time its been “W’s fault”. The thing he needs to do is STOP & be an example for the kids first.

    • Nellie CA

      the oil industry would be better regulated under state laws, each state has a differant situation. have federal laws but regulated by the state. This is what our government is suppose too do.
      Same thing with the illegal situation! Each state has illegal problems. Border states have a lot more problems with illegals. Without a good state enforcement in the border states we will have more problems in the whole U.S.A. I live north of the border in CA. We are experiencing more crime in every aspect. GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

      When you lefties and righties realize that politics is a team sport we can get some where. One administration sets up the shot and then the next one dunks. Either way those who control our political system (and economic system) are the winners and we’re paying with our souls for seats to a rigged game (maybe it’s more like wrestling :-)

      • Scott B

        Exactly right. Half the people here can’t spell or form sentences. Among those who can, most can’t observe and think. They see the same results year after year, yet go on believing in so-called party platforms. The last thing either party (or any, for that matter) would want is for the general public to wake up and say: “Wait a minute! We’re fighting over whether red- or blue-dyed bullshit is responsible for the smell in the room! Why are we doing that?”

        Obama, Bush, Clinton, none of these guys could understand an oil lease contract if it were written simplified for children and printed with large letters and pictures. (Notice I didn’t mention Cheney and Bush Sr.; I suspect they’d manage just fine.) I certainly doubt any of them know much about underwater gushers (“spills” are what happen when something falls out of a container you previously put it in) or what to do about them.

        This notion that Obama “isn’t doing enough” or “didn’t do enough,” is ludicrous. He knows nothing about the oil business and has to rely on oil experts to advise him. BP, as one of the biggest corporations in the world, has lots of oil experts on its payroll, but management have shown themselves time and again to be untrustworthy on so many levels. Whether this disaster proves to be Obama’s Katrina, or another 9/11, or both, time will tell. But all he’ll actually prove capable of in this crisis will be to further advance controls on the American people, one way or another.

        We’ve had an economic disaster, an energy disaster, a near-miss on a pandemic disaster (waiting for the other shoe on that one), and Afghanistan is becoming one long military disaster. Who knows what field of human endeavor will provide our next disaster? But one thing you can be sure of, whoever’s in office. There will be damn-all they can actually do about it, and their party will be blamed for causing the mess “on their watch.” And of course, stricter controls will be put in place over the ignorant hoi polloi as a result, while we squabble over which color of bullshit smells the worst. Just like most of you people are doing here.

        • Lewis Munn

          Your article was good.

          One thing though I sharply disagree on. The so-called “Swine” flu was NOT at all what it was blown up to be by BIG Government and the medical unions, doctors, etc. Last I read, more people had died from the mercury and other organic preservatives and poisons in the shot than died of the disease.

          But the governments all over the world pushed hard on the idea this was going to be terrible! You must have your shot full of Mercury, a poisonous heavy metal, and chemical preservatives that kill small organic life, such as blood cells, glial cells that service the nerves, etc. And, like every other viral disease, Vitamin C is a harmless preventative and cure.

          Proven by millions of travelers on airlines, among other proofs. They take these expensive Vitamin C preparations, or just plain Vitamin C pills, and do not get the viral diseases from other passengers or crew.

          Socialized and unionized medicine does not work well!

    • JeffH

      8 years…I’ve been hearing that for 18 months now…try a new approach, the Bush/Cheney 8 year thing just doesn’t do you liberals justice. Oh, when all else fails just toss in Reagan for effect…hah!

  • Ted

    As an avid hiker/backpacker/whitewater paddler I have met tons of these environmentalist weirdos. I probably love nature more than any of them. A lot of them aren’t the greatest outdoors people either. My question is how did these hippie-commies posing as nature lovers gain so much power? In order to have power one normally needs to have some leverage. The hippie-commies don’t have anything I want, have nothing to offer, and elicit more hatred than they do fear. Why do they have so much clout?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I know what you mean. I camp, I hike, I fish, and I leave nature just as I found it, and have a deep respect and care for it. Yet these environmentalist wacko’s will burn up car lots and housing additions, and spew more toxic pollutants into the air, and they think that is ok. I pretty much find them to only know, what those who pay them tell them, and that it is.

      • Ted

        Good point regarding commie-hippies burning down additions to houses and spewing pollution into the air via their actions. One has to wonder if environmentalist extremists had anything to do with the oil rig explosion, as has been suggested by some? Also makes me wonder about the coal mine explosion in West Virginia as well. On the other hand I don’t see tree huggers or democrats rushing in to help after the natural disaster (flooding) in Nashville. In his book “The Art of War”, Sun Tzu says “all war is based on deception.” Hmmm…..give a speech saying you’re open to off shore drilling then shortly thereafter a rig blows up in the gulf??? Hmmmmm……….

    • Barb

      Ted, Because they are an important part in the progressive, Marxist, commie, third world, liberal Democrat way of doing things! They would be nothing without the left and the left needs delusional idiots like them to divert attention from real issues. Simple. Idiots all wouldn’t you say?

      • Ted

        I agree with you. They are either useful idiots or knowingly evil, there is no other explanation.

    • babette

      1) Do those Greenies object to the pollution created by US military in its on-going INVASIONS? Or is it just you and me LIVING that bothers them?

      2) It’s high time everyone stopped thinking in terms of “president” and political parties and started envisaging the big picture. The info is out there, seek it out.

    • DaveH

      They have so much clout, Ted, because they peddle romantic Hopes and Dreams instead of much less palatable reality. The lazy thinkers are much more inclined to embrace fantasy than to do the difficult thinking that is reality.

    • DebbieS

      Ted, You sound just like the “Nuge”. I just read his book. I love him. I want him to run for President!!

    • Allan

      I think ithey are less employed and have more time to demonstrate at meetings. Politicians don’t like these demonstrations, so they’re more likely to cooperate if they think the rest of us are apathetic. Also the environmental lobbyists have lower standards for employment, much like Acorn employees.

  • Barb

    John Meyer is right however I still believe that Obama and the Green movement was behind the explosion too. Like I said I don’t believe in coincidence in politics. Obama is never going to step up and do the right thing about this so called spill, he planned it why would he try to fix it? As for you hflashman, no matter who comes up with solutions to fix this, they are squelched by Obama before they are even given a chance for us to hear about them, HE does not want this fixed get it? Republican solutions, Fisherman solutions, Gulf Coast dweller solutions all ignored or killed immediately from the beginning, WHY? BECAUSE OBAMA does not want it fixed!!!! To JeffH thanks for the link, I’ve seen this before but it was nice to hear it again!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      This rig was not even moved there and didnt commence drilling there until February of 2010. Now just what administration was in office in February of 2010, and were they not in charge of things and responsible for things? Why did they not make sure things were safe before they let them start drilling there? Yet their blind followers still want to blame Bush/Cheney, who were gone for over a year before they even put this rig there and started drilling. Amazing how these guys constantly get a free pass, and why the media doesnt bring this out to the public.

      • Barb

        Right Beberoni, PLUS and this is a biggie, the rig blew just one week after Obama surprisingly announced that he was going to allow more off shore drilling even on the East Coast!!!! See what I mean by COINCIDENCE!!!?????!!!!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Barb, after 53 years on this planet, I’ve found, there is NO such thing as coincidences!

        • Save America Susie

          Barb, Seems suspect to me too.

      • DaveH

        Assuming that it wasn’t an accident, all the government in the world can’t prevent accidents like that unless they just outlaw all activity. So it doesn’t matter if it was Bush’s fault, or Obama’s fault. Big Government just can’t deliver what they promise. It is just not humanly possible. They are like Snake Oil peddlers seeking to profit from a product that they know is ineffective.

      • Save America Susie

        Beberoni, I think more and more, the media is letting go of the perfect image of the Prez. They are starting to wake up. The perfect mask is coming off. Even Colin Powell, I notice here, is starting to ask questions. I would have voted for Colin Powell, but he wouldn’t run. Now maybe he wishes he would have.

    • Al Sieber

      Barb, I agree with you. I work in the mining industry and it’s tough to get any project going, the red tape with the Fed. Govt. and the “environmental wack job’s” it could take up to 5-years to get a operation permitted, and you know the Sierra Club has it’s hand out(they’ve been caught selling land illegally).there’s good money in the environmental movement you can paid well for doing nothing, they need to come to Ariz. and hug a cactus. I believe it was sabatoge also.

      • Lewis Munn

        I feel from some comments that were made right after, and the speed with which they were squelched, it was sabotage, probably by a suicide “bomber” who went down with the rig!

        From one source I heard that the BP execs were on the rig but got to leave suddenly shortly before the explosion. And many early reports commented that the blowout suppressor was up and under repair, and then sent down quickly w/o the repairs being finished. Later reports just said it did not work!

        But I recall distinctly that one pipe-crusher was not even wired back in, and one battery was dead and never replaced before it went down But all those comments have stopped abruptly!

        Money can buy silence too.

    • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

      I can give you that this was an intentional catastrophe by the Obama administration (and those who master the politics of this country) if you can give me that destruction of the WTC’s on 9-11 was an intentional action by the Bush administration (and those who master the politics of this country). I’m not saying there wasn’t a lot by some arabs or something, but Bush and gang got wind of it and saw it as the prefect opportunity to have the Pearl Harbor” outlined in a New American Century, had charges planted and ready to go. If you can’t see that the your stuck in believing the good cop bad cop routine that has the majority of americans in it’s spell. Let’s quit spewing hatred at each other ( a desirable out come to the wanna be masters of the planet), admit we’ve been duped and start to make the world we’d all like to see. A world we’d like our kids to feel safe in. A fair and just one. One of the most devastating things one can think is that mankind can be no better than what we are and are doomed to be warlike, greedy and irresponsible to the planet and each other. I was once told that “God didn’t make Sh*t” I believe that totally and also know it’s up to each one of us to take the responsibility to quit acting in a sh*ty manner and not wait on anyone else to change before we’re willing to. Quite a challenge I’d say.

  • GEORGE PAPINI

    IF THE GOP DID FORMULATE ANY IDEAS, WOULD THE GREENS,THE LIBERALS,OR THE CHOSEN ONE, EVEN PUBLISH OR ACKNOWLEDGE THEM?

    • insanityprevails

      NO!

    • Cowboy

      George:
      The only way that they would listen to GOP is if they thought that it had less than 40% chance of working. That way when it failed they could point the finger again and say “It’s not our fault”

  • LM

    Which administration gave the rig a Safety Award recently? Hint: it wasn’t any X president? BP also donated almost a million bucks towards someones campaign? Hint: it wasn’t any X President.

    • mr

      …and lets not forget who is and has been getting FREE housing courtesy of BP? RAHM IMMANUEL They are all one big cosy family.
      …and of course we can’t blame the chosen one, after all on the job training comes with a prize.
      …and we are still blaming the previous worthless one…
      …and destroy America one day at a time. Obama’s actions, words and inaction shows his contempt for America. I cannot say this any clearer—IMPEACH OBAMA!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      We wont get any information like this from the national press now, will we?

    • JC

      I’m sure that’s all Bush’s fault too. ;)

      • Lewis Munn

        No, we will not get the truth unless someone in a very minor party stumbles on the truth and lives to tell the story, and does not have his mouth stuffed with writing paper and pens and taoped whut with printer ribbons.

        And of course the autopsy will show he died of natural causes.

  • Rev. Jim Robins

    An observation; here we are, the richest and most industrially advanced country in the world, and the President fails to grasp the bull by the horns and set in motion a team to solves this issue.

    BP’s stop gap plans to slow down the leak rather than stop it is not the solution. Step 1. Shut BP down altogether. Step 2. The US has enough experts to solve the problem, take over and do it. What is stopping them from sealing it all together. Shut it down completely.
    Of course BP doesn’t want to do this and loose a producing well.

    This spill is just another example of Obama’s incompetence. Unfortunately it is also another item to add to a long list of incompetent action’s since he took office. Along with his continual violation of the Constitution, it is not surprising that he has not taking action.

    He has demonstrated from the beginning that he is not Presidential material.

    • JC

      Um Jim?
      We “were” the richest and “were” the most industrialized nation on earth.
      Our spending and debt are about to outrun our GDP. Every beating heart in America owes over $40,000 and counting. If we started to pay off today’s debt at 1 million per day it would take over 36,000 years to pay it off…and still counting. We’re actually in worse shape than Greece.
      Our Industry has been sold over seas…take Detroit for example, it’s now a third world city and declining…

      It’s time America looked afetr America again, sir.

      • Lewis Munn

        Oh, but there is now a budding City of Islaam! Dearborne…thrown out all teachers who have any faith but Islaam!

        Bright future ahead…right?

    • JC

      PS
      BTW, the Kenyan has no right whatever to shut down BP.
      No more than he had (or Bush had) to “stimulate” GM.
      And you don’t think they’re using every bit of technology the world has to offer? I do.

  • Ann Tares

    This is a time to come together as Americans, not use it as an opportunity to make political (and corporate) points off a crisis that is complex and disastrous. The Democrats did that after 9-11 when they stood with President Bush. .. why can’t we see beyond our pet policies now when the environment is tragically threatened. Conservation used to be the pride of Conservatives. So were well-crafted firm legal Regulations to protect citizens from recklessness.

    Why have we turned against disciplined rational legislation to protect individual citizens? This apologia for reckless drilling is no different than gun lobby apologists for letting any nut get a machine gun (the founding fathers said “well-regulated” militia),. It sounds like corporate-funded politicians excusing their votes to bail out spend-thrift banks but not individual borrowers. It shows the bias towards anyone taking a stand for preservation that racists show when they bash protection for the poor and the elderly as “entitlement” (code for funding black people.)

    Why not take the time to join all Americans in stopping reckless corporate actions even if some groups might lose some financial profit in the process.

    • Rev. Jim Robins

      An observation; I agree with you on one point. It is time for all American’s to come together, whether Democrat, Republican or Independent, Whether conservative or liberal.

      We must come together and save our Constitution. We save it and support it 100% all other issues will fall into place.

      Now I must ten-yer my statement with a where-as; American citizens should come together. I do not hold nor do I support all of these illegal aliens, voting to support Obama, in the hopes that he will approve amnesty. Not to get off point mind you.

      We can look at this way; if you do not love American the way it was founded, then return to where you came from, change their country.

      • Norm

        Rev. Jim Robins
        An few observations.
        The constitution doesn’t, to my knowledge, allow the government of the US to “take over” enormous international privatly owned corporations.
        The US has many intelligent and knowlagable citizens, but asking the president to establish a force to stop the leakage faster than BP makes no sense. It’s like asking the US government to build an aircraft better and more quickly than Boeing.

        • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

          If Obama cannot handle the immigration crisis he should get out of the way and let Jan Brewer handle it. If Obama cannot handle defensive measures for the Gulf States in this oil disaster he should get out of the way and let Bobby Jangle handle it. Obama needs to do better than excuses and blame.

          • JC

            You bet! Brewer has more cojones than Obama’s whole tribe.
            Jan Brewer for President!

  • LuLu

    Will you crazy libs stick to the point? Stop ranting platitudes and blaming the last eight years. Oil companies have been drilling for a lot longer than the Bush years. The point here is that the environmental movement is responsible for sending the platforms into deeper waters and also for not allowing a controlled burn. The same thing happened with the fire in California that distroyed the lives of many americans to save an endengered rat. The pinnacle of your demented mind is to destroy our economy with “Cap and Trade” to save the polar bears.

    • Rev. Jim Robins

      You have a good point. The Green movement have caused more damage in the name of preservation than any other movement. They are almost as bad as the ACLU. US reliance on fossil fuels have been obsolete for over 60 years, yet the government – regardless of what political party happens to be in office, supports the oil industry, which financially supports their campaign. A large majority of elected officials have a vested interest in the oil industry continuing to be the primary producer of fuel.

      The internal combustion engine has been obsolete for the last 60 years as well. Yet have you seen any viable alternative solution that the oil and automobile industry have not tried to squelch. It all comes down to big money. That’s what drives the government and any an all solutions.

      • Norm

        Rev. Jim Robins
        Big money also fuels the church rev.

  • Rev. Jim Robins

    Another observation; perhaps it is time for a grassroots movement to demand his impeachment. But, of course if you impeach him you also need to remove all of his Socialistic cronies as well. Demand their removal as part and parcel of the impeachment process. However it may be as simple as the old adage; “if you cut off the head of the snake.”

    • Norm

      Rev. Jim Robins
      Another observation.
      Reverands(if you are one) need to stay out of politics. It’s not in the Bible.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        He is an American. He has the same say anyone else has. That would be like me telling you to stay out of America’s business because you are a socialist and Americas is free enterprise system.

      • JC

        Norm, YOU need to stay out of politics, you’re a communist.
        And I’ll take the Reverend’s opinions over yours any day.

        • JeffH

          …2nd that but Normy never mentioned Palin, that’s a switch…

          • JC

            I don’t feel like checking Jeff, did he use the race card?

    • Palin12

      I’m all for that, Rev. After Obama is impeached and convicted, the candidate with the second most electoral votes from 2008 will be sworn in as President. Sarah Palin will be sworn in as VP.

      • Claire

        I’ll take Jan Brewer any day.

  • Right Wing

    I posted this on the Rand Paul topic and here it is again.

    Consider a comparison of Katrina/Nagin/Bush to Deepwater/Obama/BP. Katrina happened, Nagin complained that the government was not responsive, and Bush claimed responsibility…situation resolved. Deepwater happened, Obama refuses to speak with Hayward (BP CEO), and the situation is FUBAR.

    Obama et al. have bailed out everybody including Greece but he won’t mobilize resources for damage control on this spill? Our government could, at a minimum, take control of oil collection and cleanup and send BP the bill but instead Obama the charlatan has no clue how to contribute, sits back and pisses himself and furls his brow with pursed lips at BP’s progress. Maybe James O’Keefe (Acorn filmmaker) can do a Michael Moore parody film titled “Fair-and-Right 422″.

  • combustioneer

    One thing about this I don’t understand. Deeepwater Horizon was drilling this well over fifty miles off shore. International waters begin at twelve miles off shore. Yes BP is still responsible for any damage done to the environment and is liable for any damage within the twelve mile limit. However the United States has no power to deny drilling at this location. If we as a nation were to forcibly stop a not U.S. flagged ship from this activity in this location we could and should be considered a rogue nation exerting it’s power in international waters. So all those who wish to ban deep water drilling should bear in mind that neither the states or the Unites States have any authority over activities beyond twelve miles from our shoreline.

    • Rev. Jim Robins

      True BP may be drilling in international waters, but to stand by and allow another nation to create a hazard to American shorelines and American industry would be tantamount to failure to intercede when a foreign warship stationed its self off our shores.

      • JC

        Jim, they aren’t another “nation” they are a private company.
        They also supply the continental US with about 14% of its oil.
        I’d rather get it from Brits than so called “friendly” Arab nations.
        They are admitting responsibilty and there will be a bill to pay.
        In the mean time, I think, they should be left to use all the resources at their disposal to contain the problem.

  • Raggs

    BP has already stated that if a moratorium is issued they will move thier rigs to the east off of the cost of Africa.
    That means 160,000 US rig workers will lose thier jobs unless they move with the rigs. Boy sure sounds like we have a “job” creator in the white house doesn’t it?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He creates government jobs, that taxes all of us more to pay for them and the social programs the democrats create to take money from the working and give to the non working. Those are the only jobs democrats create, and thats always been a fact. They create government jobs, and lose civilian jobs, every stinking time.

      • the goat

        has it ever occured to you that the jobs he has created whent to forien companys? he give a flip when it comes to americans. i know you people still believe he is american and i dont. we need to storm the court house and take his records and see for ourselves if he is infact american. you people NEED TO REMEMBER that they work for us not we work for them. lets take the perverbial bull by the balls and sqeeese may be we will get thier attention.

    • Ms. Jones

      Hey, maybe ol’ Rahm Emmanuel can hire them on as Census enumerators!

      • sylvia

        Now that you mention it, Ms Jones, has any-one even go the cencus to fill out??? There was a couple of people at my house handing out the papers to say we wouyld be getting a cencus to fill out. My husband asked them if they were assosiated with the SEIU or the previous org. that Obama was with and if so GET OFF MY LAND. To this day we haven’t gotten any cencus to fill out.

    • Norm

      Raggs
      I guess Obama is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t.

      • JC

        Yes he is. :)

      • JLC

        Norm — He asked for the job. Let him demonstrate that he can handle it!

      • JeffH

        Obviously comes with the territory.

  • RbtShadow

    The greenies promote their activities and then hide when the results are disastrous. greenies have banned insecticides that would eliminate or minimalize the threat of the Tsetse fly and the mosquito spreading malaria and in the process have doomed hundreds of thousands of Africans to horrible deaths.

    0′bummer has promised to redistribute Americas Assets to the nonworking countries of the world this is one of the ways he intends to do it. Never let a crisis go to waste even if you have to create the crisis.
    I am convinced that greenies want to de-industrialize the US and turn us into a third world country by denying industry the energy sources it needs to basically “feed the world”

  • jdlo

    I was not overly fond of Bush and Cheney, but what we have now is something else and I fail to see where it is better. What was it that was said by the ones in power now/ “Dont let a crisis go to waste!” So go ahead and shut down coal oil and natural gas and go all green. We will use wind tubines and solar panels to create all the energy that we need and that will take care of all those problems that we have. I do believe that there is enough hot air in DC to run everything. Oh yes tree huggers are included.

  • EHeassler

    Unfortunately, the oil spill is the perfect catalyst for Barry Soetoro to further his far left “progressive” agenda which includes shutting down the use of carbon based fuels. Unfortunately his agenda is more a blend of socialism and fascism that is destructive to the free enterprise system as we know it in the USA. He will pick winners and losers. His friends and allies are winners and the rest of us are the losers who pay the tab while a select and increasingly fewer group of winners get rich. The big lie is that it is Republicans who are in bed with big oil and big business. The ones really in bed with big business and big oil is Barry and his gang of thugs and extortionsists who are forcing their way into the corporate boardrooms and putting the Feds in control of more and more industry. When the public eventually wakes up and finds out that they are being taxed out of their assets to pay for corporate welfare, pay for the unproductive who continually have their hands out for government support, and pay for programs that will see our economy grind to a complete halt because of it’s increasing unproductivity there will be massive unrest. That will be Barry Osama’s call to declare a “national emergency” whereupon he will ask for emergency powers, suspend habeus corpus, arrest his critics, suspend freedoms of the media and press, and generally attempt to run the country as an oligarch at best or autocrat at worst. We are in a downward spiral under Obama that if not reversed soon, will see the end of our democratic for of federalism and complete loss of individual freedom in favor of total government control of all aspect of our lives. The Gulf oil spill is just one more lever for him to use to help shut down our economy.

    • Conservative at Birth

      History repeating itself.

      • Lewis Munn

        Yup, such close comparisons. Just finished reading the book I got. Who will take the place of the Jews, tho…maybe the Christians that are now more and more vilified?

  • Bill

    Well apparently the oil companys have the technology to drill in deep water, this well is not as deep compared to some near New Zealand according to Boone Pickens have drilled in 10.000 feet of ocean. I dont hear any complaints down under. Maybe better oversight and a pre safety plan would have helped and saved 11 lives.This was a botched job from BP and our watchdog Obama Administration. We need a full investigation into all our own government handling.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      This is true. This well was not even in the Gulf during the Bush admin. It was moved into the Gulf during the Obama admin, and didnt commence drilling until February 2010, and I dont know, but one would think, that whoever is in power at that time, would have made sure all legal safety requirements were met, but once again, democrats in charge were asleep at the helm. Yet they insist on blaming others, and the left wing liberal media lets them get away with it, instead of reporting the truth. Why do we not hear on the news that this well didnt start until February 2010? Why? Rotten liberals.

  • angel-wanna-be

    Well, well, Like I said on previous threads, what goes around, comes around. Obama Bashed Bush long enough, now he’s getting his! I’m tired of the CLEAN ENERGY SPIN!_Obama has made no bones about NOT being for fossil fuels, and adamantly supports GREEN EVERYTHING!__I believe this Feet Dragging in the Gulf Oil Spill by the Obama Administration, is to serve as and excuse, to shut down off shore drilling altogether. Create a crisis!!__A back door attempt to show that ” off shore drilling isn’t safe”.
    Commercial fishing and tourism will be affected along the coastline, and will add fuel to the fire, in an already weakened economy. Two coal mining incidents, one on shore refinery explosion, and an off shore one__ fossils fuels involved and quite a coincidence.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. It has always been interesting to me to see such disasters always happening at just the right time to make a point of some legal matters the greens want. And they always insist that the companies failed.

      I remember such an “accident” a few years ago in Baton Rouge where the disaster was averted. A company had a public symposium to explain what they did to make things as safe as possible. Several greens objected. A couple of days later the security guards caught two men who had used scuba gear to cross the Mississippi River and sneak into the plant. They were planting dynamite next to a tank of chlorine gas (mustard gas if you prefer) with the intention of detonating it so the gas would drift down over a populated area of town.

      When charged with trying to kill thousands of people their defense was that THEY wouldn’t be killing anyone; the company would have done it because they had the chlorine on site and therefore the company needed to be punished for it. All they had been doing was proving that the company was not safe and should be shut down.

      • angel-wanna-be

        45 caliper, what I find hard to believe, is that no one seems to know HOW to stop this flow of oil. These guys make millions scientifically drilling oil from the ocean floor, with state of the art technology, yet NO ONE seems to know how to stop this??___I think it’s being done on pupose.

        • Lewis Munn

          Like I have said before…how many thousands of plumbers do we have that stop leaks in pipes all the time.

          Where is the plumber’s union? And probably the Independents are easy to keep form giving any practical advice.

          Yahoo has a vested interest in not offending those in power by publishing solutions the powerful do not want people to know about!

          • angel-wanna-be

            Lewis Munn, yeah NOTHING about this oil spill makes sense, too many coincidences, speeches, timing in the whole nine yards. I’m a hopeless skeptic!

  • Bill

    Remember NIMROD>

  • Norm

    FYI A little on BP:

    BP is one of the world’s largest energy companies, providing its customers with fuel for transportation, energy for heat and light, retail services and petrochemicals products for everyday items
    Facts and figures:
    Sales and other operating revenues $239 billion (year 2009)
    Replacement cost profit $14.0 billion (year 2009)
    Number of employees 80,300 (at 31 Dec 2009)
    Proved reserves 18.3 billion barrels of oil equivalent
    Service stations 22400
    Exploration and production Active in 30 countries
    Refineries (wholly or partly owned) 16
    Refining throughput 2.3 million barrels per day (year 2009)

  • Patriot

    The only reasonable conclusion is that our President does not know how take a leadership role or he is doing this on purpose, both are too scary to contemplate. Two things need to happen first; we need to plug this thing in any manner possible using every available resource then we need a full investigation into our President and his Chief of Staff to determine what role they played in permit approvals just days before this disaster. These permits generally take weeks if not months to approve 3 were approved in days and 1 was approved in minutes, yes minutes!

    Hint: Rham was living with the top BP promotions person for awhile, why? Follow the money, it always is right!

    What we need is solid investigative journalism in this country, had we had that; this incompetent imposter would never been elected in the first place!

  • Tom

    I hate to sound like an Obama lover, but let’s give the man a chance, for crying out loud. He’s inherited a tremendous mess by Bush, enough for any President to go nuts trying to fix, yet you don’t mention that. Do people think that what Bush did can be corrected in a week? A lot of it may be irrepairable, and made moreso by undo criticism. Does anyone think that all the Black hatred is gone, or do they realize that many people have to lay off the Black hatred comments/actions so that they won’t be labelled as Racists? Let’s get real. President Obama needs all the support there is out there to be more effective. He’s not one soldier against an entire army, or is he?

    • 45caliber

      EVERY President inherits a mess from the previous President. And all of them live with it and agree that it’s their mess. Except Oblama. Nothing is his fault – it is always Bush’s fault.

      Well, this spill happened AFTER Bush left – a year and a half after. So don’t start blaming Bush.

    • blamesomeoneelse

      How did Obama get elected? Who voted for him? Seems people believe what he had to say even thou he had a bad record as senator and was part of the Illinois corupt political system. We got what the majority wanted. But they didnt know what they wanted they just wanted someone to take from the rich and give to the nonworking class. Yes it works very well, backed by actors and California libros. Look how well it is working in California and LA. Follow there lead, anti business and corupt unions are in control there. The monster is out. Lets vote in a monster watcher and blame the last president only as Bill had such a wonderful raine as king! People forget he was nafta, he wanted anyone to buy a house even if they didnt have a job, and he didn’t inhale or have sexual relations!

      • Hugh Jordan

        Let’s face it, the reason Obama won was because that candidates offered by the republicans were weak and the public was tired of 8 years of Bush ineptitude. McCain was perceived as out of touch and Palin too dimwitted for high office.

        When conservatives start putting up real, intelligent candidates they will start winning elections again.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Only an Obama lover would even think of making a statement like that. Knock off the race baiting. It is worst than racism because it creates an issue when there is none. It took Bush three days to respond to Katrina and look what happen to him. Obama has had two months to respond and we still see no leadership.

    • JC

      Bush and Racism! Well done Tom. You’ve managed to play not one, but TWO progressive cards in one post. Give that man a cookie. :)

    • Ms. Jones

      Hmmm, Tom, let’s see . . . Obama has the support of Democratic majorities in both houses. He has the support of a fawning mainstream media. He has, or rather, HAD the support of a majority of Americans who annointed, er, elected him. He has the support of unions, who carry out thuggery on his behalf. He has the support of Socialist and Islamic governments the world over. What more does he need? One soldier, indeed!

    • the goat

      its not rasist to say and i hope he is next ,that a majority of what ethnic back grounds go to jail the most? take a good look at it before you open your mouth. look at the numbers.we have given and given to the black man now dont get me wrong i have some very very good friends of color(although i do not see it with them). they dont even have to make the grade in school. my god people, wake up.take this country back and throw the son-of-a bitch in jail along with all his cronies. he just pulled the wool over everyones eyes. clean house

    • angel-wanna-be

      Tom, The 60′s are over, get off the race card__If you think for one minute ALL this opposition, is about a black man being president, your about 50 years too late. Take a ride on the Way Back Machine, Mr Peabody and don’t forget your koolaide!. It’s about policies friend, and quite frankly Obama’s Socialistic policies suck!

    • Barb

      Tom, You hate to sound like an Obama lover?! Are you kidding? Jeepers creepers man you sound like you are in bed with him! You Bash Bush and call us all racists and worse yet you have the audacity to call Obama a soldier!!!!????? How dare you! He didn’t inherit anything he wasn’t aware of before he ran, now all he does and you libs do is whine about it because Obama is too inept to handle anything, PERIOD. Go back where you crawled from and suck your thumb again.

  • Mike

    I wrote an E-MAIL to BP with a solution that would STOP the leak and alow them to capture the oil at the same time. My offer was that if it worked they would pay for the solution, they basically said thanks but no thanks. Guess they are not that interested in finding a good solution to their problem. You would think they would at least check it out.

    • JC

      Not to make small of your effort or your method Mike, but BP is getting hundreds of such emails every day. Some from complete whackos I’m sure.

    • Lewis Munn

      At least you got a form letter back. I would bet this is more than you would get from Obama…might get arrested even!

      He could have asked the Plumber’s union for help…not even willing to go Union in the effort to keep the disaster going his way!

      Obama is working hard to compete with Chester Arthur, our other president of disputed credentials, who was recently proven to have been illegal; but so long after only the good historians can see the things he did to the country while he was in office. And the long term bad effects he had.

  • http://gmail i41

    If the greenie nut jobs and the democrats got at opposng sides of a windmill and they took turns sucking and blowing, the blades would wear out. We are still waiting to hear from the morons to explain why with 2 trillion barrels of crude at depts of less than a 1000′ as was stated in the Stansbury Report on the Rocky Mts., which was done in 4-2006, it was made public and the dems and the media sat on their thumbs. This was when we were paying over $4 a gallon for fuel to go to work. What were the envior smucks in Congress doing, holding hearings on why fuel was so high and dream up more green crap. It took over 40 years to get where we are with ethanol and still we have problems with making it, if it weren’t for sudsidizes, which we all pay for. The Congress and the Prez and all beltway clowns, are either or will be a bunch of lawyers, very adept at slowing down and screwing anything they get near. The Williston Basin has over 50o billion barrels of oil in it. If that production of the blow out, was ncreased by 15 times that would last for a day, where is the f–k up at? The EPA, Energy Agencies,the purple lipped muslim phony Pres, enviors filing phony law suits to protect some rat, mysterios plant, or a wild animal. Enviors will do anything to stop anything called energy, either oil or lumber, with envios in all the colleges, it wasn’t long before it was the in thing. The feel good hippies who live in dream land and are now dreaming up rules and regs on everything. they still dream of communes, and everyone gets the same amount, with the pipe dream every one will work the same amount. The damage was causedby the though theory driven muslim Prez, the EPA and their assine impact study, now they don’t need to study , the screw happened and we don’t wait for eleit idoits and cowards, There were ships who vacum up oil and water and seperate and keep the oil, but it is only 95% effective and will discharge some oily water back in the ocean. It was a 100% effective of a mess now, you don’t always get to get to plan your solutions out for weeks. When emerengcies happen America needs to see elbows and ahole moving , not concerts, golfing and vacations. Just like a government agencies, stocked with over educated do nothing democrats.In the Williston Basin there is enough oil for 2000 years, what the hell are we letting America be in debt, dependant on flea infested camel jockeies for? It is the hippy narrow minded morons of the socialist democrat ilk. Hippies like someone telling them what to do, make decisions for them, and let government take care of everything for them.

    • 45caliber

      But if we didn’t buy it from those noble souls in the Mid-East, they might have to go back to camel rustling to make a living. Don’t we owe it to them to let them live the good life? Or at least let their leaders live properly. If we drill here, we are sure to cause them problems. Besides, if we use their oil we can save what we have for our sons and daughters.

      At least I think that is the argument is that the liberals like to use.

      • Lewis Munn

        Isn’t the other Argument that if we do not buy their oil, they will not like us any more, and starting supporting the Taliban and selling to Red China so they can compete with us more and better?

        And of course when Obama bows humbly to them acknowledging they are his superiors, in every way, and so our nation is properly subservient to them, they like that.

        And under Islaam, you obey the supreme spiritual leader, or you accept being killed for your lack of absolute obedience. If you are lucky, just your head will be cut off quickly for your beliefs.

        Seems strange that people who want to be fiercely independent and flout the laws seem to want to fall under Islaamic Rule, doesn’t it?

        • JC

          They already support the Taliban.
          It’s big business on both side of the ocean.

  • 45caliber

    I have to admit, this couldn’t have happened to a more deserving president. Having said that, I must admit that I wouldn’t expect him to do more. He has NO expertise in oil well problems and neither does anyone else in the government. BP probably has more expertise than most do on fixing the problem.

    There are several problems with this that I would like an answer to, however. First, in any situation like this, there are several safeties – not just one. And ALL failed. Second, why was there an explosion at both the top and the bottom? That doesn’t make sense in any normal scenario I can think of. I will be VERY interested in seeing the investigation report when it comes out. And finally, the timing of this is very odd – two weeks after Oblama agreed to more drilling??

    • http://www.saveoursprings.com terri wolfe

      HAD ENOUGH! WAKE UP AND GET TOUGH

      BP’s oil gusher can be plugged with concrete that is how it is done according to the oil drillers instruction training manual, I read it a while back, concrete sets under water, I also read to cap a production well debris must be cleaned out , mud and golf balls what a joke I cannot believe anyone fell for that nonsense, like dropping plastic bb pellets and a handful of dirt into a natural bubbling spring, idiots!
      BP was buying time at the expense of our citizens livelihood, our delicate environment, beautiful beaches, and wildlife. BP officials should be imprisoned. Who is responsible for allowing such a risky operation when according to BP there is no fix for a blowout! This needs addressed ASAP. The American people have the right to know.
      Concrete injection is a more realistic method to stop this disaster, BP and big money DO NOT WANT to destroy that well . BP is positive we the American People will not allow BP Corporation to drill another billion $$ profit production well , BP had no trouble convincing our elected officials what a great fix it was mixing toxic deadly solvents and dumping on BP’s nasty mess to dissolve the oil leaving a toxic sludge much more difficult to detect and most likely impossible to contain, but very successful in concealing massive amounts of the nasty toxic oil BP continues to release. Sneaky! What a brainwashing public relations team BP employs!
      BP is afraid the concrete injection will work, The USA must get pipe sections large enough to install over BP’s pipeline join them together like any pipeline, drop it over that gusher and pump the cement , throw in a few lead cannon balls ,more cement , more lead cannon balls, saving the rubber band golf balls for the BP officials to juggle.
      BP managed to install a pipeline to capture a small amount of oil and divert it into their vessels for profit, BP could have capped the well. Instead BP chose a pipe diameter small enough to assure the gusher will keep going strong, giving the impression BP is doing all BP can, WRONG TRY AGAIN!
      BP is buying time to repair that blowout of theirs and keep it open. WRONG! WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA MUST UNITE AND TOSS THEM OUT!
      If all else fails ,drill a borehole , set off a small nuke bomb melting the ocean floor to a big glass plug, after all the American Government has tested nukes under the ocean floor many times before, one more should not make a huge difference.
      The American public must unite and throw every one of the oil companies out of the gulf immediately, has anyone noticed any help from the other oil boreholers. Why are they are so very silent,? I will appreciate it if the press will help to identify each and every one of them and the exact locations of their deadly ticking time bombs being every well open and all wells currently permitted for in the future. Every one must be accounted for and capped. It is not the American way to allow a few to benefit at such a extreme cost to so many.
      We must bring our troops home to defend our gulf, our homeland beaches , defend our business now doomed due to big oil tycoons making deals to line their pockets while destroying American jobs, destroying American business ,destroying American lives , Poisoning our seafood, destroying our beaches , our battle is here defending our land . Big oil can take their nasty habit out of our gulf, yes OUR GULF , we are taking it for our territory just as the foreigners barged in here so long ago and stole this land from its rightful owners the Indians .
      Terri Wolfe

      Zephyrhills Florida

      • 45caliber

        Unite and throw out the oil companies, huh? And just what are we supposed to use for energy? Buy more from Saudi and Iran? My point was that this seems to be a great way for greens to try to get us out of the Gulf and all other off-shore drilling at the best possible time for them. You seem to be falling for their line – hook, line, and sinker. Or are you one of those who helps create such “crisis”?

  • Steve S.

    This is so typical of the you folks with “OBAMA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME”. This leak is a DIRECT result of Bush and Cheney turning off ALL the regulations on oil drilling. If Obama allowed Joe Biden to hold secret meetings to set all the USA’s energy policies with the Environmental Groups you all would implode. You are so blinded by your partisanship that you can’t see that that is exactly what happened under Bush. They turned off the regulations and that triggered the Great Depression, the Savings and Loan Debacle, the current financial mess, and the oil spill in the GULF. Even Alan Greenspan finally admitted you can’t trust the people in charge of the major sectors of our economy to police themselves.

    • Ono Nadagin

      To Steve S

      if you think it is a direct result of Bush turning off all regulation(which is a falacy)

      Then why do you not think it is a direct result of Obama not turning the regulations back on? Because he had plenty of time to do so and the permission to drill was given by the Obama admin.

      So why do you continue to shift blame?

      • Steve S.

        BP was not put under any new restriction enacted by the Obama Admin. The regulation in place on this drill were the ones left over from Bush / Cheney. Now you could argue that he should have put new regulations in place and I might agree with you. He most certainly should have directed the overhaul of the Minerals Management Service as that agency was and is a colossal mess.

        • Ono Nadagin

          Steve S..

          You can not have it both ways.. first you say that it is Bush’s fault because Bush got rid of all regulations(which I pointed out was a fallacy).

          Then you counter my my point that if you think Bush got rid of all regulations, and Obama did not reinstate them you should find Obama at fault..

          But instead of seeing the logic, you say that BP wasnt under any regulations from the Obama admin and they operated under left over Bush admin regulations.. which you previously said Bush had gotten rid of.

          You cant have it both ways, quit lying to yourself and us in attempts to lay blame for this accident on someone you dislike so much you let it cloud your judgement to the point of falsehoods

          • Steve S.

            Anyone who is paying attention today can see the request made by BP to drill the well that is ruining the Gulf. The paperwork has been all over the TV. They said in the request to drill in the “GULF of MEXICO” that they wouldn’t harm the walruses and seal by drilling there. There are neither in the Gulf, it is too hot. They also claimed that the oil in any leak could NEVER reach the shore or wetlands because it was 48 miles away. Well we know that is true. The Minerals Management Service approved this crap. This is the Agency that was having Coke and Sex parties with Oil Company Lobbyists. Obama’s failing was in not cleaning the agency out and filling it with responsible scientist. Cheney met with Oil and Coal representatives in 2001 and let them craft the Energy Policy of the country. This is a fact because Cheney went to the Supreme Court to stop Environmental Groups from seeing the documents from these meetings.

    • Ms. Jones

      Steve, George Bush was not the President presiding over the Great Depression. I don’t think he was even born yet! Nice try, though. Herbert Hoover was President when the stock market crashed, an event which many credit as the catalyst for the Great Depression. However, FDR presided over most of the Great Depression. His “New Deal” (Big Government hand-out) policies are responsible for worsening the situation and forestalling economic recovery.

      • Steve S.

        No Kidding, I never said he was. He wasn’t President during the Savings and Loan Cluster either. If you’ll reread my post you’ll see that I said that it was the turning off of the regulations that caused the problems for all of them. As for the rest of your post if FDR didn’t do what he did the depression would have had a far more devastating effect on us than it did. Isn’t it funny that the same folks who can’t stand the Federal Government stepping into to a crisis are crying buckets because they didn’t do it fast enough in the Gulf Oil mess?

    • JeffH

      Steve S. says “You are so blinded by your partisanship that you can’t see that that is exactly what happened under Bush.”

      Bush is no longer president, gone, exit stage left…and you have the nerve to mention blind partisanship…how dare you! LOL!

      • Steve S.

        I dare very easily thank you. If you listen to Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh,and I know you do, they blamed everything under the sun for the 8 Bush years on Clinton. You all are finally learning how we felt for 8 long years. I really wish the country would move away from this tit for tat BS between the parties but as long you hang on to these outright lies that are fabricated by your power elite and don’t bother to check to to see if they are true than this is where we are stuck.

        • JeffH

          Steve S. it is very obvious you’ve much to learn about Marxism and those that chose to embrace it. Your president has embraced it and it shows everyday he chooses to move his lips. Of course I understand the dilema it creates for you. Oh..what to do or say…it’s un-American to say the least. Another point, Obama is president in name only so the real culprits we should complain about are the ones pulling his strings. Reminds of the song “I’m your puppet”… Pull the string and I’ll wink at you, I’m your puppet I’ll do funny things if you want me to, I’m your puppet…

          • Steve S.

            Oh the condescension is just dripping off you post. Surely anyone who does not kiss the feet of and drink up every ounce of wisdom from the great Sean, Glen, or Rush is an uneducated boob. Last Time I checked Pres. Obama is everyone’s President. If you can make a case that he is not legitimate then by all means have at it. I love to watch a Zealot crash and burn in public. And the claim of Marxism is the lamest slam of all. The Great Beck spent 10 to 15 minutes of his show blathering on about how MSNBC “HAS TO BE MARXIST” because there is carving on the building that they do their shows in that has Marxist overtones. The only thing the Moron forgot to mention is that is the same building where he does his own show. GLEN BECK MUST BE MARXIST. I love logic.

    • JC

      “OBAMA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME”? hahahaha…that’s good! That’s very good! More cookies for this one!

      I think our nation is suffering very much from the way in which The Kenyan has “deranged” it. But we’ll be staring to re arrange the country this November. It will look like a place we once proudly hailed as “The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”…
      (Not suitable for all users – communists and socialists may suffer side effects like *having to work for a living*)

      • Steve S.

        JC
        In case you missed it this past Tuesday, every incumbent but one won their Primary. The one that didn’t has to win a Run Off. Boy that’s showing them.

        • JC

          Republicans, Democrats, how many and what’s your point?
          Even the great socialist icon Michael Moore is saying the Dems are in for an ass-whooping of biblical proportions in November.
          I guess we’ll see.

          • Steve S.

            Every Incumbent, of all parties. That is why it is such BS, all this blather on the conservative talk shows about the voters anger that is going to throw the bums out. In ALL of the primaries so far this year only 5 or 6 have lost. And I believe All them had some sort of sexual or ethical or both problems going on.

  • http://www.saveoursprings.com terri wolfe

    HAD ENOUGH! WAKE UP AND GET TOUGH

    BP’s oil gusher can be plugged with concrete that is how it is done according to the oil drillers instruction training manual, I read it a while back, concrete sets under water, I also read to cap a production well debris must be cleaned out , mud and golf balls what a joke I cannot believe anyone fell for that nonsense, like dropping plastic bb pellets and a handful of dirt into a natural bubbling spring, idiots!
    BP was buying time at the expense of our citizens livelihood, our delicate environment, beautiful beaches, and wildlife. BP officials should be imprisoned. Who is responsible for allowing such a risky operation when according to BP there is no fix for a blowout! This needs addressed ASAP. The American people have the right to know.
    Concrete injection is a more realistic method to stop this disaster, BP and big money DO NOT WANT to destroy that well . BP is positive we the American People will not allow BP Corporation to drill another billion $$ profit production well , BP had no trouble convincing our elected officials what a great fix it was mixing toxic deadly solvents and dumping on BP’s nasty mess to dissolve the oil leaving a toxic sludge much more difficult to detect and most likely impossible to contain, but very successful in concealing massive amounts of the nasty toxic oil BP continues to release. Sneaky! What a brainwashing public relations team BP employs!
    BP is afraid the concrete injection will work, The USA must get pipe sections large enough to install over BP’s pipeline join them together like any pipeline, drop it over that gusher and pump the cement , throw in a few lead cannon balls ,more cement , more lead cannon balls, saving the rubber band golf balls for the BP officials to juggle.
    BP managed to install a pipeline to capture a small amount of oil and divert it into their vessels for profit, BP could have capped the well. Instead BP chose a pipe diameter small enough to assure the gusher will keep going strong, giving the impression BP is doing all BP can, WRONG TRY AGAIN!
    BP is buying time to repair that blowout of theirs and keep it open. WRONG! WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA MUST UNITE AND TOSS THEM OUT!
    If all else fails ,drill a borehole , set off a small nuke bomb melting the ocean floor to a big glass plug, after all the American Government has tested nukes under the ocean floor many times before, one more should not make a huge difference.
    The American public must unite and throw every one of the oil companies out of the gulf immediately, has anyone noticed any help from the other oil boreholers. Why are they are so very silent,? I will appreciate it if the press will help to identify each and every one of them and the exact locations of their deadly ticking time bombs being every well open and all wells currently permitted for in the future. Every one must be accounted for and capped. It is not the American way to allow a few to benefit at such a extreme cost to so many.
    We must bring our troops home to defend our gulf, our homeland beaches , defend our business now doomed due to big oil tycoons making deals to line their pockets while destroying American jobs, destroying American business ,destroying American lives , Poisoning our seafood, destroying our beaches , our battle is here defending our land . Big oil can take their nasty habit out of our gulf, yes OUR GULF , we are taking it for our territory just as the foreigners barged in here so long ago and stole this land from its rightful owners the Indians .
    Terri Wolfe

    Zephyrhills Florida

    • 45caliber

      Again a rant typical of all the greens. Tell me, were you partially to blame for this?

      By the way, I am quarter Indian. The Indians did NOT own the land. Not even in the East where they had started to grow crops. The Cherokee did own some land but that was after they got the idea from the whites. The reason the nomadic Indians moved frequently was because they trashed and deficated up the places they had camped at. Indian tribes today insist they “owned the land” because it is a white man’s idea but none did before the white man came.

    • Ono Nadagin

      Terri big oil is part of the reason your state does so well… gas for the flights for ppl to get there .. gas for the fishing boats… gas for the shipping industry… gas to get products down the road.

      We the ppl of the world have no option but to use fossil fuels if we wish to live the lives we live. So until we find an alternative we must be allowed to drill onshore and in shallow offshore sites to feed the beast(our life style)

      this article is about how the green movement has forced US drilling into less safe areas.

      You say BP is capturing the oil for profit… they have already said all this oil captured will be sold and the revenue will be used for gulf clean up.

      But you are forgetting that they were willing to follow the NOAA preset disaster plan of buring it off… thus losing all of it and making your opinion moot…. but once again the mean green movement stopped the burn off… validating the authors point that the green movement makes things worse

    • Cowboy

      Terri:
      I would like to know if you have been smoking something or drinking swamp water (or kool-aid)?
      Some of the point tha you are trying to make are the exact thing that the artical is about. The “Green movment” has added too large amount of the problems in the case. Since you are an “Expert” on this deep water drilling and oil containment your new job with the government should pay very well, OR you can go to work for GP and save to day.
      I agree with 45caliber about the timing of all the different events make me question a lot of different things.

  • James

    I keep hearing the Government wants 100% assurance something like this will never happen again, before any drilling can go forward. Can any airline, coal mine, or any industry make that guarantee. NO. Can the Federal Government guarantee 100% that we will not have a financial meltdown. NO. Kind of hypocritical, don’t you think?

    • JC

      For sure. No one said they were rational.

  • Bill

    Great article. Spot on the problem. Remember Obama only carried Florida, so the rest of the South can go to waste as for as the liberals are concerned. This is a great opportunity for the current socialists to restrict exploration, drilling and production. This in turn will cause the price of energy to sky rocket, thus causing a monumental decrease in demand. Crisis upon crisis will ensure only the socialists through the goverment have the tools needed to sustain even a modicum of what our civilization has been in the past. The world is on the brink of financial disaster, this is a huge nail driven into the economy and will surely produce what Obama has had in mind from day one.

  • http://www.glacierwebservices.com Karen

    While I agree that drilling for oil closer to shore would be preferable to deep water drilling as far as safety and cost containment is concerned, NO! to drilling in ANWR. Not only is the potential for destroying ANWR to great, to do so would make every other protected part of the US “fair game”. Just because we can mine, log and drill in an undeveloped area, it doesn’t mean we should. Let’s save some for future generations and concentrate on developing new technologies rather than contining to rely on the outdated internal combustion engine.

    • Carl

      Yes, we can save the drilling in ANWR for our grandchildren who hopefully will have much more common sense than the Environmentalist extremists who don’t want drilling for oil inside the USA or inside the 12 mile limits in the oceans. It is more likely there will be no USA by the time my grandchildren are adults because we’ll have lost our wealth, our sovereignty, our nation to China and other nations from whom our government has borrowed heavily.
      Does it really matter now if Bush & Cheney or Clinton & Gore created the problems? Mr. Obama has reversed some of the Bush Executive Orders with some of his own Executiv Orders and he could have also reversed some of the Bush energy policies. Why don’t we all just agree that George Bush caused every disaster during his 8 years and move on to what is being done now?
      Some people seem not to realize that Democrat politicians have also gotten wealthy from oil, gas, and electric power investments.

  • http://www.glacierwebservices.com Karen

    It’s also clear BP never intended to close that well. They spent millions drilling it, now they want their money out of it. Our government is standing by doing nothing while the gulf is destroyed. BP is a foreign corporation, they have no stake in the future of US waters. They just don’t care. We need a government who will force the issue, not stand by and talk about the future. The administrations lack of action other than the president saying he’s angry is shameful.

  • Marilyn

    American Citizens, supposedly, vote, put politicians in charge; they in turn make legislation and some of it very bad legislation. Now, American Citizens are supposed to bail out the administration and the mess they put Americans in. (poor English but will do for now.) All of this goes back before the Obama adminstration. Obama has promised change and we are getting it. Obama has a majority of democratic congress and some turn-coat republicans. What else can you expect from the democratic party which stands on a “Socialism platform”?

    It amazes me that all our President and Congress can do is point fingers at BP and demand they clean up the oil mess in the Gulf. This is a time when everyone comes up with a solution and do the finger pointing later.

    Don’t forget that by executive order, 2 billion American tax dollars have been loaned to Brazil for off shore drilling. All oil will go to China. What does America get out of Brazil off shore drilling? Nothing. But, Brazil gets our tax dollars!! I do not have a politican’s mind but I can put two and two together. Total Picture.

    We have to watch the front door but do not forget to watch the back door… Things the press will not print or are not allowed to print.

    • val

      Well, Marilyn, the reason fingers pointed are at BP is because they are the responsible party. This is no different than you holding the party that rear ends you at the traffic light responsible for damages to your car and any injuries to your person. Its that simple.

  • Brian

    Yeah, this is the obvious fact of the matter.
    So now what?
    The left creates a problem, or worse, allows matters to get worse.
    Then condescendingly state because of this they must be permitted to apply their remedy for our own good.

    We need to tell the greens, environmentalist and their moneyed fellow travelers to stuff it.

  • WarriorH

    Try this on!
    Lee Iacocca Says:

    ‘Am I the only guy in this country who’s fed up with what’s happening? Where the hell is our outrage with this so called president? We should be screaming bloody murder! We’ve got a gang of tax cheating clueless leftists trying to steer our ship of state right over a cliff, we’ve got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can’t even run a ridiculous cash-for-clunkers program without losing $26 billion of the taxpayers’ money, much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, ‘trust me the economy is getting better..’

    Better? You’ve got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, ‘Titanic’. I’ll give you a sound bite: ‘Throw all the Democrats out along with Obama!’

    You might think I’m getting senile, that I’ve gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..

    The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we’re fiddling in Afghanistan , Iran is completing their nuclear bombs and missiles and nobody seems to know what to do. And the liberal press is waving ‘pom-poms’ instead of asking hard questions. That’s not the promise of the ‘ America ‘ my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for.. I’ve had enough. How about you?

    I’ll go a step further. You can’t call yourself a patriot if you’re not outraged. This is a fight I’m ready and willing to have. The Biggest ‘C’ is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C’s of leadership, with crisis being the first.)

    Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It’s easy to sit there with thumb up your butt and talk theory. Or send someone else’s kids off to war when you’ve never seen a battlefield yourself. It’s another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

    On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here’s where we stand.

    We’re immersed in a bloody war now with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving. But our soldiers are dying daily.

    We’re running the biggest deficit in the history of the world, and it’s getting worse every day!

    We’ve lost the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.

    Gas prices are going to skyrock again, and nobody in power has a lucid plan to open drilling to solve the problem. This country has the largest oil reserves in the WORLD, and we cannot drill for it because the politicians have been bought by the flea-hugging environmentalists.
    Our schools are in a complete disaster because of the teachers union.

    Our borders are like sieves and they want to give all illegals amnesty and free healthcare.

    The middle class is being squeezed to death every day.

    These are times that cry out for leadership.

    But when you look around, you’ve got to ask: ‘Where have all the leaders gone?’ Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

    Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?

    We’ve spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

    Everyone’s hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping the government will make it better for them. Now, that’s just crazy.. Deal with life.

    Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when ‘The Big Three’ referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, look what Obama did about it!
    Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving theenergy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

    I have news for the Chicago gangsters in Congress. We didn’t elect you to turn this country into a losing European Socialist state. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don’t you guys show some spine for a change?

    Had Enough? Hey, I’m not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I’m trying to light a fire. I’m speaking out because I have hope – I believe in America . In my lifetime, I’ve had the privilege of living through some of America ‘s greatest moments. I’ve also experienced some of our worst crises: The ‘Great Depression,’ ‘World War II,’ the ‘Korean War,’ the ‘Kennedy Assassination,’ the ‘Vietnam War,’ the 1970′s oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years since 9/11.

    Make your own contribution by sending this to everyone you know and care about. It’s our country, folks, and it’s our future. Our future is at stake!!
    ***********************************
    LET’S GET THE MUSLIM ROOKIE OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE!!!

    • the goat

      hear hear….spoken like a true american and not a leftist pacifist

    • Carol

      One more right wing Dufus. Obama and Democrats are not responsible for policies set by Cheney and Bush. We are dealing with the fallout from Cheney deregulation & his inviting oil companies in to determine our oil and environmental policies.

      Educate yourself and stop playing the fool for right wing nuts.

      • angel-wanna-be

        YAWN_CAROL %0

  • gblatham

    I honestly don’t understand – unless it’s simply human nature.

    Surely, there’s enough blame to go ’round! Why are we pointing fingers at others when the ultimate problem is our own insatiable craving for oil?

    Coat a few beaches? Kill a few birds? Who cares, as long as we can maintain our “lifestyle”?!

    So we drill in Alaska an in the shallows and deplete _those_ sources. THEN what? We’ll be back in deep water…in more ways than one.

    If it was my choice to make, I’d gladly trade you one wildlife refuge and one fragile marshland for one uniform, comprehensive transportation/energy/environmental policy!

    It seems so easy to blame everyone but ourselves; but, like I said, that’s just human nature.

    Garl B. Latham
    Dallas, Texas

  • Robert

    the greenies are totally responsible, because they have done everything in their power to halt and try to reverse nuclear power. since 1955 there was a nuclear power plant in pittsburgh pa and it never caused a problem. two mile island was a no brainer. the backup system worked. the operator failed to follow procdure and caused the problem that caused no deaths or other problems. had we been building 2 or 3 nuclear power plants ever year we would have little to no need for humungus quanities of oil. France has 100 nuclear power plants and they supply all of their needs. and no disasters. and we would be able to take better choices in off shore develpment. also the greenies have done everything in their power to stop development of oil production in colorado where their is more oil than the middle east has.. but the greenies want no oil no nuclear power just stagnation and the downfall of america. also the greenies hate america.

  • http://ajb221@cox.net AJB OKIE

    all ob wants to do is blame some one else. sue and try to ruin a safe program. you will have mistakes,but you dont see the goverment trying to sue over the space program where we lost our crew. No he shut down the program. This whole mess is the govt fault by letting or should say by making companies drill in those depths. they could have used the dirictoinal methond and been sucessful. just more fuel for the green movment. I say plug the well by putting obama ass in the hole.

  • Carol

    Obama and environmentalists are responsible for the oil & gas policies put in place by the Bush administration and for their gutting of environmental protections?

    I could cite facts and intelligently rebut your false smear/claims but after 30 years of far right unfailing stupidity and ignorance, I understand it wouldn’t be heard.

    How about this? I’ll bring it down to a level you will understand. The far right has its head so far up it’s collective butt that it sees nothing but its own waste.

  • gblatham

    Robert,

    Fair enough. When developing our policy, nuclear power will be back in the mix.

    Anyone else?

    Garl

  • Ben Martin (Patriot)

    Your article has the right title “Greens have sowed their own seeds” but the definition of Green and who it pertains to are misconstrued in relation to what is currently transpiring in the Gulf of Mexico. The Green in this case defines the inexperience & naïve attitude we all have when sitting back and placing blame on someone else for the predicament we find ourselves in today. The blame game and bashing have become our biggest past time sport. This doesn’t lend any constructive input to how we go about rectifying the situation and it surely doesn’t give vision to long term prevention as well as independent growth for our nation, The UNITED States.
    If you want to get to the root of our energy woes, look in the mirror instead of diverting the blame on Big Oil companies, Federal Government, OPEC, etc. It is our own lifestyle and the greed and addiction we have for placing comfort & convenience above everything else at the expense of our own long term growth and sovereignty. Step back and take a look at every material aspect in your lives and realize that in the vast majority of cases if not all cases oil has directly or indirectly been involved in the manufacturing of these products. Then analyze whether or not each product you use is essential for your living or is it a comfort and convenience you’ve gotten use to in order to make life more pleasurable. You mention the term liberal and relate it to the cause of the current Gulf disaster, yet if you take a look at how the majority of us live in today’s world we are very liberal in the manner in which we seek our happiness. Most of the time we don’t give a second thought as to what goes into the energy it takes to make up our day. We bellyache at the price of gas, electricity, the cost of apparel and just about how everything we spend our money on is ever increasing; yet we rarely make concessions to become a bit more conservative in our everyday lives to make tomorrow’s world healthier, wealthier, and more positively productive. We rationalize and accept our own actions of today by pushing the consequences they may bear out to the right to be contended with tomorrow. All the while it is us, collectively, that have failed to address our addiction to oil and stimulate new ways of creating energy that will make us healthier, cleaner, stronger, and more independent as a people.
    We live in the present, we act in the present, we can bitch about the past and throw blame at everything moving around us, and we can plan for a future that pulls us out of the rut we are currently stuck in. The bottom line is this for the energy crisis, financial crisis, healthcare crisis, education crisis, and every other crisis we are currently facing if we don’t first address our moral crisis on both an individual and community (USA) level, then take current action to mend our ways and move forward with intentions to better the environment around us in our everyday living we won’t have to worry about leadership serving in a public manner, for the United States as we knew it growing up will no longer exist and the freedom our forefathers established for us to live in unity (not uniformity) with one another will be but one more page in the history of the world. We need to form a new paradigm that promotes win, win, win scenarios rather than a broken win, lose scenario that’s been played out.
    Each and every one of us has the ability to contribute to a better tomorrow and we can only get there by embracing the positives that make us the United States while developing a trust and relationship with each other accepting and leveraging our diversity. By keeping an open mind and working towards affording the opportunity for all Americans to pursue life, liberty, and their American Dreams we continue to open that ribbon of highway that has made this the best land on earth over the past 235 years. That has enabled us to relate to the rest of the world with compassion and has given “US” the fortitude to shine brightly in our darkest hour. God has blessed America and we are blessed to be Americans today. Now it is our time to act as Americans (A United States) with the stewardship that will protect, grow, and pass on a healthier, wealthier promise to tomorrow. We need to invest (connotation is long term) with the knowledge we’ll be wiser, stronger, independent and more interdependent tomorrow instead of expensing (connotation is immediate gratification) depleting our future an unknown dependent tomorrow. Maybe the Gulf crisis should start to be viewed as our strongest potential asset rather than the biggest liability we face today – for life is a test, a trust, and a temporary assignment. It is what we choose to do with it that will forge the reality we live in.

    • Carol

      Ben, you’ve articulated the problems we face as a nation very well. We’re at a pivotal point and the choices we make today are determining our future. We can stay on the current path and suffer the consequences of past empires caught up in an excess of power, greed, money and war. Or we can alter our course and create a different legacy and future. The choice is completely up to us.

      There are those who choose to become religious fanatics, who turn over individual responsibility for their lives to ‘leaders’ who are very happy to tell them what to think & believe & how to behave. These religious groups take it upon themselves to determine who has what rights in our culture. They teach that a ‘good’ person conforms to rigid religious beliefs and enforces these ‘beliefs’ in the world..

      There are many in our country now who are so negatively focused that they welcome a doomsday fate, see it as some sort of a religious epiphany and are working to bring it on and undermine the fate of our country!

      Who are we individually? Do our lives reflect who we are & want to be? If not, this is the change we need to create. What do we stand for as a country? Does it function as we want it to, to enhance our lives and our actions in the world?

      Is our government infrastructure strong? Does it serves us, rather than the politicians we elect? Do our corporations serve US? Do our newspapers, magazines and the media serve our needs? If they aren’t addressing our needs, this is the change we need to create.

      History teaches us that the problems of great empires: power, greed, money, religion & excess, are cyclical. Humanity has always had to ‘fight’ for change and ‘human rights’, which have always been granted (or momentarily lost) by those with power, wealth and influence.

      We need to learn to ‘fight’ in a different way, to stay positively focused on creating the world and life we need, defining what that means each step of the way and working to get it done. That is worth living for, working for and doing it together, as we can.

      Being a docile citizen or a compliant worker allows us to survive, but it doesn’t create what we most need–in ourselves, our families or in the larger world. ‘Fighting’ doesn’t serve humanity; it keeps us locked in battle after battle, throughout time and history.

      Our future lies in learning how to create; both from within ourselves and by working together, to shape the lives, cities, states, country and future we want.

      This isn’t easy, but it’s a life worth living and working for.

  • Skinnb

    The bush administration wanted to drill off shore and the country didn’t want it. We were promised that if the oil companies could drill off shore that fuel prices in this country would be lower. domestic oil would sell for lower price. none f these things happened except the off shore drilling and that was done by a foreign oil co. who sells the oil to foreign countries as well as to the U. S. (maybe) for the same world price. The price per barrel is no lower than the foreign oil. We are selling the prudho bay oil to foreign countries and buying fkoreign oil to supply the U. S. needs.When the U. S depletes its oil the price per barrel of Arab oil will go sky high. What’s wrong with these right wing idiots? Can’t they see any further than the end of their noses? The right wing is only intereste in filling their own pockets at the expence of the American work force. The bush administration bailed out AIG in Sept of 2008 and before that, removed most regulations on banks and oil companies as well as othe big companies such as Halliburton. They spent money like it had never been spent before and cut taxes so there wouldn’t be any money to fill the coffers. What choice did the Obama administratio have other than to continue bailing out the big companies. If he hadn’t bailed them out he would have been critisized for letting them fail. He was caught between a rock and a hard place. The republicans tell so many lies that the wouldn’t recognize the truth if it were branded on the ene of their nose with a hot iron. Now that their is off shore drilling that the republicans so lilligently faught for, they blame the Grees for the right wing mistakes. BE SURE OF WHAT YOU ASK FOR, YOU MAY GET IT. You’ll never get lowere fuel prices, domestic or foreign oil has such a huge expensive loby in Washington that is paid dearly by the consumer.

    • Carl

      It is not the conservatives that you term “rightwingers”, that are responsible for having to drill offshore or who are keeping our nation dependent on foreign oil. It is the environmentalists who have taken over much of the political system, mostly Democrats and socialists, that have forbidden drilling for oil on American soil or within 12 miles of shore that have created that mess.
      AS a fiscal conservative myself I can assure you that I am for tapping into our own oil instead of allowing some foreign company to drill for it outside our 12 mile limit. Russia or China could drill for oil beyond our 12 mile jurisdiction and sell the oil to us. Do you realize that a plan is in the works now to let Russia have several islands off the coast of Alaska? Do we want to give or sell these islands to Russia and allow them to get the minerals,ore,seafood or anything else from those areas and use for themselves, and likely sell some to the United States.
      We can point fingers at past administrations and get nothing done.

  • http://www.westsideinternet.net Craig

    This was a gift from ELF in a way. Like Chief Gates in the LA riots, he lets the disaster happen to make some stupid point before even trying to bring it under control, just for political purposes. After all, if they are really intelligent they remember the 30,000 ships full of oil, gasoline and chemicals sunk in the second world war in a six year period. that didn’t “kill the ocean”. The same was true just a few years before with world war one. there is also the oil seeps into the santa barbara channel that have been dumping oil into the ocean for thousands of years. The socialists never mention the oil spring near Gaviota Pass in Santa Barbara county that have spilled liquid crude into the Santa Barbara channel since before the Spanish got around Point Conception. Ships stopped at Santa Barbara for years to get tar off the beach to repair their ship hulls. (William Henry Dana, “Two Years Before the Mast) the only reason the beaches are clean today is because the oil companies clean it up every year. It is the source of the largest crop of kelp harvestable. We sell tons of it annually to the whole world.
    They know in the end they can make it look like they saved the day with their policies when they were actually insignificant in the whole matter. That’s the whole point of the Global Warming Fraud! Yes Fraud!! They were intending to both sacrifice the first born of the “Guilty” To save the ignorant majority that buys this stupidity, then save us all from ourselves. If you buy any of this you should be ashamed of your lack of knowledge. The weather always changes, and oil is seeping into the oceans all the time.

  • American for America

    On the matter of liberal vs. conservative – Remember that Jesus Christ, this guy radical right Republicans claim to follow in word-not deeds, was a liberal and was crucified by the conservatives (Republicans) of his time.

    On the issue of “Chosen One” – It was the Bush Cheny coup behind closed doors that created the deregulation in the energy sector leading to this disaster. Go to

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/30/oil-spills-nigeria-niger-delta-shell

    And this ongoing oil disaster in Nigeria is land based and happening because there is no energy regulation. To deride regulation and the liberals as the cause of the this disaster is no different than blaming Bush for the 9-11 disaster. Greed needs to be regulated and if the Party of “no” could give some constructive ideation to resolving America’s challenges vs. being the partisan party of No, perhaps America could move forward. Interesting how the electorate continue to prefer a Democratic majority in our Government.

    Ron Pickarski

    • Carol

      To American for America: Outstanding observation that bears repeating to challenge the right, over and over and over:

      “On the matter of liberal vs. conservative – Remember that Jesus Christ, this guy radical right Republicans claim to follow in word-not deeds, was a liberal and was crucified by the conservatives (Republicans) of his time.

      On the issue of “Chosen One” – It was the Bush Cheny coup behind closed doors that created the deregulation in the energy sector leading to this disaster.”

      • WarriorH

        I kinda agree. I also believe Bush/Cheney distant relatives killed all the dinosaurs and early plant life which henceforth became today’s oil. The oil leak is nothing more than the dino’s and plant’s exacting their revenge.

    • Shasta

      GET A GRIP, and Elvis is in the house too i suppose!!!!!!!!!

      • Save America Susie

        I gree. Shasta. People can’t blame “W” and “DC” forever. They are not in charge anymore, it’s out of their hands now, that is the point. No matter who left the door open, if you came in last, it is your responsibility to close it. Seems pretty simple, huh?

    • Ono Nadagin

      LMAO a person calling themself American for America linking to the leftist British rag The Gaurdian to try to prove his point.

      Sorry but imo you ‘may’ live in the US but I doubt it.. my guess is you are just trying to make yourself look like something you are not…. wolf in sheeps clothing as some say.

    • Ono Nadagin

      Well I stand corrected as I bet you are the the same Ron Pickarski that I found on google… ‘eco’ chef and contrubter to the Huffington Post. but I still laugh at your use of the Gaurdian

  • gblatham

    Thank you, Mr. Martin.

    We have not “invested” well, nor have we proven to be good stewards of the blessings God has given us.

    “If you want to get to the root of our energy woes, look in the mirror…”

    Truer words were never spoken.

    Garl

  • DaveH

    Another point of view:
    http://mises.org/daily/4331

  • gblatham

    Mr. Pickarski,

    I don’t necessarily buy into this “party of ‘no’” business – it’s far too simplistic – but I will agree that substantive, unifying ideas are what we need to be striving for at this juncture.

    You stand in favour of fair and equitable regulation, so we’ll certainly add that to the list.

    Garl

    • WarriorH

      And while we’re at it why don’t we get the government “lackey’s” to do their jobs.

  • Nick

    What kind of nitwits do we have in this country….Its big oil that stops progress. I remember electric bus with their boom on the power above they ran good Tech exisits sun cells to heat water etc.

    The Republicians and conservative in this country )and they aren’t even aware of their brains) are the lackeys for the rich.

    The rich have too much money with their gimicks and low taxes. In Italy college is free health care is free. Can you imagine these poor kids with their debt for schooling, nice way to start life USA Greed Greed Greed………..

    • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

      Of course Italy is on the brink of bankruptcy and swiftly heading the direction of Greece. Wow, who wouldn’t want a lawless country with violence spewing into the streets. Nick, you seriously need to visit or perhaps move to one of these socialist countries and live there for awhile before you form an opinion that everything is great over there.

      We need to put this idiotic “rich” debate to bed as well. The term “rich” has redefined the word “profitable”. So let’s look at what is really being said, “We need to get rid of these profitable businesses and people.” Guess what where do you think anyone will work if business is no longer profitable.

      • Shasta

        Truer words never spoken, THANK YOU TIM!!!

    • DaveH

      Nick,
      You might want to run your comments through spell check before you start putting other people down as “nitwits”.

    • Ms. Jones

      Nick, NOTHING is free–it’s simply being paid for by someone else. I’ve said it before, and I will keep on saying it until someone pays attention: where in the Constitution does it say that someone else’s food, shelter, college education, health care, etc. is MY responsibility? Thomas Jefferson wrote, “A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned – this is the sum of good government.” And please do not confuse personal, voluntary charity to those less fortunate with governmental redistribution of wealth.

      • Save America Susie

        Ms. Jones, Excellent post! Love those Founding Fathers quotes! They PROVE a lot! Thanks.

  • marvin

    folks after 20 years in the oil field i can say that accidents will and do happen, will this oil spill be stop yes, was bp slow with the the clean up yes i would have had ever super tanker and pump boat i could have got there in the first week sucking oil and water up most oil is a round 4 to 5 lbs per gal salt water 12 lbs pump the mix in oil rise to top pump water out, as for blame it is bp oil well so less get the flow stopped the right people are in charge [bp]like it or not obama and his bunch of know nothings can not stop the leak he can make all the speachs he want about kicking ass and foot on neck but that won,t fix the leak you drill for oil were it is at, if you want to drive,were mistakes made on the drilling rig mabe,has bp made mistakes yes on the clean up did they do something wrong in cementing or the blow out preventer mabe camrun makes the best pob in the world bar none did it fail to work or trying to cut a tooljoint their are a lot of things unansured, in my 20+ years working around oil and gas you do something stuped or not by the book you die ever one that has worked on a drilling rig knows this what i am saying less get the oil leak stopped then start pointing fingers, i do not now or have i ever worked for bp, there is enuf blame to go around

    • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

      Marvin, since you have been around these rigs, I would be interested in your opinion of the stated reason for the original explosion being caused by a methane bubble. It is my understanding that these methane bubbles are not an unusual occurences and that the rigs are designed to compensate for enormouse amounts of gas in the lines. Also, you did not indicate if you had ever been on an off-shore rig, but these rigs are huge and designed to withstand hurricane forces that are far above anything ever known to man. How massive do you believe that the explosion would have had to been in order to sink the rig?

    • Save America Susie

      Marvin, Thanks for your insights.

  • Tom fro Las Vegas

    Hey Denniso, keep drinking the kool-aid. You are nothing but an green treehugging nut job. It’s people like you that have caused the environmenal disasters. Everything you people touch turns to crap. We don’t need your opinions…get lost jerk!

    • Denniso

      Thanks for the nice and thoughtful feedback…

  • barney

    no more breaks for oil co

  • gblatham

    DaveH:

    I read the piece. To me, it’s not “another point of view” as much as it is a different perspective upon the _same_ point of view, to wit:

    “…the environmentalists, with their fear mongering and hatred of modern life…are thrilled because they get yet another chance to wail and moan about the plight of their beloved marshes and other allegedly sensitive land.”

    All sarcasm and hateful rhetoric aside, I’ve already said I’d be willing to trade “beloved marshes and other allegedly [sic] sensitive land” for an honest, logical, down-to-earth conversation concerning the FUTURE!

    You know…the place our _children_ will live?!

    Garl

    • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

      If we do not leave them “Freedom” nothing else will be of any value. If we leave them “Freedom” everything else will be their choice.

      • gblatham

        Yes, sir.

        But, the Biblical definition (and dare I say the classic AMERICAN definition) of “freedom” is NOT the literal right to do anything and everything you want!

        We are “our brother’s keeper” – and we have been given dominion over God’s creation. Far from relieving us of any responsibility, it _increases_ our responsibility, many times over!

        Best,
        Garl

        • http://eachstateretaliate.blogspot.com/ Tea Party Tim

          Absolutely, Biblical Freedom gives us the ability to do what is right in the eyes of God, not what seems right in our own eyes. True Freedom gives us the ability to fulfill our responsibilities to ourselves and one another.

        • DaveH

          It is a well-known fact, Garl, that the poorer countries have the dirtiest environments. Freedom has allowed the United States to become the Wealthiest nation on Earth, and one of the cleanest.
          And by Freedom, I mean citizens being unfettered by Government in the control of their own bodies and legally acquired property. No, that does not mean the freedom to trespass on others’ bodies and property.

          • WarriorH

            But Dave, if CAP and TAX doesn’t pass those poor countries will never be able to clean up their own environments. Hey, how about a Hatian cash for clunkers program?

          • gblatham

            Understood.

            Interestingly, however, the “dirt” now being spread isn’t generated through the _use_ of energy, but from its _development_. We can’t legitimately claim to be “clean” while remaining, per capita, the world’s largest user of energy!

            For whatever it’s worth, we also generate the largest volume of trash per person.

            Upon inspection, I’m afraid your analogy fails.

            Garl

          • Save America Susie

            Founders Quote–On Liberty

            “…Rightful Liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within LIMITS drawn around us by the EQUAL RIGHTS of others. I DO NOT add ‘within the law’ BECAUSE Law is often but a Tyrants Will & always so when it violates the rights of the INDIVIDUAL.”

            –Pres. Thomas Jefferson

  • gblatham

    Nick,

    I agree with Tea Party Tim.

    Capitalism is not inherently bad, nor is being rich inherently wrong.

    It’s the _love_ of money that’s the root of all kinds of evil – not money, itself. [Ref: I Timothy 6:10]

    Garl

    • owldog

      Multi-National Corporate Capitalism (and Capital Markets like Wall Street)needs rules and regulations, like any other game.

      Unfortunately American capitalism (led by the neocon right) has been leading the world into a fundamentalist form of laissez-faire capitalism that is self-destructive, and a threat to the freedom of most other forms of private enterprize and family-owned businesses.

      • DaveH

        “laissez-faire capitalism”, Dog? You must be kidding. We are far away from laissez faire capitalism. What we have now is crony-capitalism where the companies that pay the right politicians will get protection in the form of regulations that stifle their competition.
        But if we did have Free Markets, the regulators in a Free Market are the consumers and the courts (in the case of fraud or other criminal activities). The regulations just create an unnecessary paperwork expense for good companies. Imagine, for instance, that the Government regulated crime the way they regulate business. We would all have to fill out reams of paperwork verifying that we have no intention of murdering, stealing, defrauding, trespassing, and on and on. It wouldn’t stop the actual criminals, but it would cost us all extra and unnecessary expense and time, kind of like the Income Tax System does now.
        Look at the individual countries in this index (pick the country link for specific information) and tell me honestly that the most heavily regulated countries are the most desirable:
        http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

        I said “honestly”!

  • Doc Sarvis

    All of us who use gas in our vehicles are part of the problem. We need to get off this limited resource. Too many lives have been lost trying to procure this product including all the lives we’ve lost in the Middle East – yes, we are there because of the oil.

    • gblatham

      Doc,

      You’re right…which is why my desire is to see the development of a comprehensive TRANSPORTATION/energy/environmental policy.

      So, in your opinion, if using “gas in our vehicles” is “part of the problem,” what do you suggest we do instead (or at least in addition to)?

      I have several ideas of my own…but I asked you, first!

      Garl

      • DaveH

        I had to listen to all the Liberal Hopes and Dreams for alternative fuels and energy when Jimmy Carter was president. Spare me. If a fuel is economically viable then companies will flock to produce it and make their fortunes. If they don’t, then you can. If the Government prevents you from marketing your idea, then you have a beef. If people don’t want to pay for your product, then you don’t have a beef.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I am no expert on energy but from what I’ve read there are a lot of avenues for energy expansion. Many of them have their own problems but to list some wind, solar (photovoltaics & therma solar), biofuels, cogeneration or “clean” incinerators, well designed nuclear, etc.
        A huge factor must be better use of the energy we consume/energy conservation. Higher efficiency transportation, more mass transportation options, better design of communities, more efficient cars and appliances, “texas air conditioning”, buying goods produced closer to one’s home, etc. Just a start.
        Some of this is not easy but is necessary. I think the American people can do this and lead the world. I think we should lead the world in addressing these challenges. I also think it is a cop out to say it is too hard or nobody else has done it so we can’t reach this achievement. We can do it if we apply ourselves.

    • Cowboy

      Doc you are correct, we do need to cut back on our oil dependency.
      I think that it is very interesting that we have Washington DC people such as BO (in Air Force One) and very large number of the congress (house and senate heads) that use 6-8 times more in one day than normal people use in a life time (at the tax payers expense), so that they can fly around to tell us what a great job they are doing (or going on a vacation.
      Just look at the amount oil/petroleum products we could save if Al Gore, Nancy, Harry and BO stayed home.

  • gary

    THe liberal mentality fails everywhere it rears its ugly head. I simply does not work. A case in point is Japan and their mess with liberal Democrats. It will be interesting to see what happens there.

    As to the gulf disaster it seems that BP is not really doing much. I think there are scientists that are experts in deep ocean procedure that should be insisting on getting this thing under control. At least helping more than it seems they are allowed to. We need the oil and to kill the well is just plane stupid. However, someone needs to get under control very quick and it is not going to be British Petroleum. Imagine what a large hurricane would do with all the oil.My guess is move it upstream very far and inland many many miles.
    Too many mistakes by sooooo many people.

  • gary

    Personally, I do not believe the human race, will last long enough to use all the oil that is in the ground, and ready to be brought to the surface, or that which is still developing into oil as we call it.

    I am in favor of alternate energy uses, but you need to use your head on this one. Do you really think we can stop using oil and rely on other methods to heat our homes,run what factories we have left, run our automobiles etc etc, in a very short time? It is simply not going to happen quickly.

    I do not know how many automobiles are in this country, but for the sake of arguement, lets say 2/3 are converted to electric in two years time. Where would you charge them? What effect would charging these vehicles have on our demand for electricity? I really hate to think about it.

    • gblatham

      Gary,

      Isn’t there a difference between “stop using oil” and setting the stage for a post-oil economy? Is the fact that all these things cannot happen by tomorrow a reasonable excuse for failing to begin the development of “alternate energy uses” _today_?!

      Will Rogers once said, “When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!”

      Well, we’re still digging – deeper and deeper.

      By the way, who among us really believes the automobile as we know it will remain king indefinitely?!

      Hmmm…

      Garl

      • DaveH

        If the Government would butt out, the marketplace would take care of that problem over time. As the oil supply dwindled, the prices would increase, and innovative people would step in and fill the gap with an increasing amount of then-comparably-priced alternative energy. Over time, the problem would take care of itself.
        Instead, the Liberals Hope and Dream, and worship Big Government and Hollywood stars, and bite the hands that feed them (the companies currently supplying our energy).
        Imagine all the increased research that could be done if the Government wasn’t wasting our financial resources with all their non-productive flailing.

  • Ozark Mike

    Rumor that needs to be checked out… Goldman Sachs dumped 40% of their BP stock 2 days BEFORE the explosion AND BP’s CEO dumped his stock the same ay.

    • Al Sieber

      Hey Ozark, did you know there was “short selling” of airline stock right before 911? this makes me think this could be a another “False Flag Operation”.

      • JC

        There was a lot of insurance (puts) on Airline stock bought just before 911 too.

  • the goat

    look, i have read everyone of these stories and most are full of crude,nice for doo doo…..but if we dont start figureing out away to get this leak under control and this idiot and his cronies out of office we will be doomed.you know there was and still is a man who has always shown where your or our money is going and what it would take to make things rite AND has handled money and huge amounts of it and IS not left or right and has the stones for the job but no one will give him a try………ross perot…..think about it. simple pie charts for evidently awhole bunch of simple minded people. if the dems. and repub. are butt wipes i say put in someone who REALLY LOVES this country and will fight hard at bringing it around.he is one of us ,everyday dude that loves his country. he tried to warn us of this crap along time ago. we need an everyday kind of american to take this country and do what WE THE PEOPLE want. so quit crying and pointing fingers and get this leak fixed and the morom and cronies out of office and make this a better country.try our independent people for a change. the other crooks wont like it but we might

    • 45caliber

      Sorry, Ross Pirot is the wrong man for anything as far as I’m concerned. He is NOT a conservative, for one thing, although he tries to appear to be. He is a businessman and wants to insure he makes plenty of money on the government’s dollar.

      Sort of like T.Pickens Boone. Boone put over a billion dollars into windmills. After he had a quarter of them put up, he realized that the govnerment wasn’t going to give him a multi-billion dollar grant to put in the transmission lines. He had planned to make billions in profit by having the government do most of his financing.

      Do you need some windmills? He has quite a number of them for sale.

  • captcat

    Wow…So Bush sr. and Bush jr, and Haliburton Cheney had nothing to do with it?…..wow I’m generally an unbiased Canadian but the picture is very plain to see to me..you should take your blinders off…GK.

    • DaveH

      If you’re talking about the BP accident, please inform us what they had to do with it? And cite some references please, instead of just fabricating facts like most Liberals are fond of doing.

    • JC

      Had nothing to do with what?
      And what, is plain to see?

  • Carol

    We’re at a pivotal point and the choices we make today are determining our future. We can stay on the current path and suffer the consequences of past empires caught up in an excess of power, greed, money and war. Or we can alter our course and create a different legacy and future. The choice is completely up to us.

    There are those who turn over individual responsibility for their lives to religious ‘leaders’ who are very happy to tell them what to think & believe & how to behave. These fanatical religious groups take it upon themselves to decide who should have what rights and privileges. They teach that a ‘good’ person conforms to rigid religious beliefs and enforces these ‘beliefs’ in the world..

    There are many in our country now who are so negatively focused that they welcome a doomsday fate, see it as some sort of a religious epiphany and are working to bring it, on undermining the fate of our country and the world!

    Who are we as individuals? Do our lives reflect who we are & want to be? If not, this is the change we need to create. What do we stand for as a country? Does it function as we want it to, to enhance our lives and our actions in the world?

    Is our government infrastructure strong? Does it serves us, rather than the politicians we elect? Do our corporations serve US? Do our newspapers, magazines and the media serve our needs? If they aren’t addressing our needs, this is the change we need to create.

    History teaches that the problems of great empires: power, greed, money, religion & excess, are cyclical. Humanity has always had to ‘fight’ for change and ‘human rights’, which have been granted (or momentarily lost) by those with power, wealth and influence.

    We need to learn to ‘fight’ in a different way, to stay positively focused on creating the world and life we need, defining what that means each step of the way and working to get it done. That is worth living for, working for and working together, to accomplish.

    Being a docile citizen or a compliant worker allows us to survive, but it doesn’t create what we most need – in ourselves, our families or in the larger world. ‘Fighting’ doesn’t serve humanity; it keeps us locked in battle after battle, throughout time and history.

    Our future lies in learning how to create; both from within ourselves and by working together, to shape our own lives, our cities, states, country and the future we want.

    This isn’t easy, but it’s a life worth living and working for.

    • gblatham

      Carol,

      Many of the questions you asked, as well as several of the desires you outlined, could be adequately addressed through the establishment of various policies: the idea that we, as a people, might decide where we want to go and how we want to get there _before_ beginning to take action or throw money around.

      I am distressed by your obvious antipathy toward “religion.” If I had but one wish, it’s that you would read and study the Bible as a source of comfort and guidance _without_ the trappings of denominationalism or any other doctrine developed by men.

      God’s word combined with an open mind and contrite heart can work wonders!

      Best wishes,
      Garl

      • Carol

        Gail,

        You may not intend this, but you are patronizing. You presume you know better about what is right for me and for others. You don’t.

        As a child, I attended various churches & learned about different religions. I always found much more spirituality, comfort and peace in nature than in the politics of religion. Religion is organized to try to convince everyone else it has all the answers and to enlist others on its behalf. It works to accumulate power and wealth and then uses that power to ‘convert’ more people to ensure its continued power.

        I want the live I can create through my own efforts and connection with others who see what I see. Wars, now and throughout history, have been fought over religious views and to amass religious power.

        If Christ were here, he would throw the lot of you out of his temple.

        • Ms. Jones

          Wow, talk about patronizing! You presume to speak for Jesus! Garl was merely pointing out the difference between “religion”, which is instituted by human beings and will therefore always, eventually disappoint, and “faith” which is a source of comfort and hope for many.

          A side point: Do you despise Islam and the terrorism it inspires, or do you reserve your vitriol only for Christianity?

          • gblatham

            Thanks for your kind words of support.

            I guess I should have known by now how things like this tend to work – sort of the modern-day, “adult” version of a schoolyard fight.

            I’m so sorry.

            Garl

        • Claire

          Carol– And I presume you think you know better about what is right for us?? So who is the patronizer here?

  • the goat

    hey canadian……not your country keep it to your self you are a socialist country with the same views as the idiot that i did not vote for

    • JC

      You’re painting an entire nation with one brush?
      They have the same division we do and right now, are less socialist than the US. We passed them a while back.

    • Shasta

      love you Goat! Amen, GO AWAY CANADIAN, YOU GOT YOUR OWN CRAP…..i mean serioulsy, who gave ovomit the idea of Socialized medicine anyway??

      • JC

        You need to get out more. ALL of Europe is on socialized medicine.
        Soviet Russia was on socialized medicine. East Germany…well maybe you’ve started to get the point.
        And all for the same reasons…control!

  • chuck b

    what a joke! barry is not responsible for this mess in the gulf, its all bp’s fault!! we should be running our cars on battery power!! and not using oil, this sounds like a bunch of liberal whackos!!!

    first off it may or not be barry’s fault, who knows for sure what happened to that rig, very suspicious. it is barry’s fault to some extent on his failure to see that all agency’s where coordinating with each other and all precautions were in place to handle the spill, he failed on all accounts, complete failure.
    now we have all the little commies writting in to defend his actions, tell me what can you defend?? where are the booms, where are the berms and where is barry?? “throwing parties”
    if we were drilling on land this would never have happened, so blame these same whacko liberal environmentalist and their supporters,
    maybe they can hook up their battery’s and solar panels to a giant suction pump and take care of the oil.

    • Cowboy

      Well-said Chuck.
      The problem is you forgot that BO is also having meetings for his new PR campaign for Obamacare (at I think they said 25+ million and to tell us how great of a job he did to get it passed and how much money he is going to save us).
      He does not have time to be bothered with a little spilled oil.

    • Carol

      Bush & Cheney created the deregulation that has allowed the worst oil spill. Cheney allowed the oil companies to determine policy. Get your head out of your rear and do a little ‘objective’ research and actual reading.

      Liberals and environmentalists are among those who will save this planet–and country–not the ignorance sown by Fox and people like you.

      • WarriorH

        Ban progressives! Fox Rocks.

        • Carol

          All the Fox watchers on this site have been thoroughly brainwashed. This is what comes of lowering the standards of our educational system.

          • WarriorH

            I try watching the liberal loons on MSNBC and can’t take more than a couple minutes at a time. It’s a good thing we have FOX otherwise you may as well have no news stations, just a daily briefing from the WH and the rest of the corrupt gov creatures.

          • chuck b

            carol

            bp had the required safety precautions, where was the barry admin. on their inspections??? it seems they passed on it.

            the liberals started lowering the school standards back in the 1970′s, they wanted a curriculum the minority students could compete in, these same teachers today are the product of that system and i see you are too.

          • Ms. Jones

            There are some who say that the college of education is the “ghetto” of any university. There are exceptions–teachers who could be making big bucks elsewhere, but see education as a calling, but I’ve seen too many who can’t spell or punctuate a sentence properly, or know when the Declaration of Independence was signed. ‘Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach.’

          • angel-wanna-be

            Carol, OMG_ third rock from the sun, your brain is fried!__There is more Koolaid just down the hall, and to the left___far left!!

          • DaveH

            No, Carol, you and your fellow Liberals are what comes from lowering educational standards.
            Please explain to me, Ignorant Liberal, why the most heavily regulated countries are the poorest?

          • Shasta

            THANK GOD FOR FOX! its so nice to hear the Truth and not have to listen to the arse kissing rippers on other stations, NO WONDER FOX IS NUMBER ONE!!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Carol_ Libtard___ for your information___BP owns 65 percent of the block in which the well was being drilled, and is field operator. U.S. explorer Anadarko Petroleum Corp owns 25 percent.
        Courtesy of Reuters!!!___NOW GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!

      • DaveH

        Liberals aren’t going to save us from anything. They have one main goal and that is to relieve those who earned their money the right way from their money.
        Please explain to us, starry-eyed Liberal, how Bush and Cheney created the BP accident, and cite references not just fabricated facts. And also explain to us how Obama did anything to prevent such incident.

        • Claire

          DaveH–What did any of them do to prevent anything?

  • gblatham

    …and we continue to spew vitriol and accuse each other while Rome burns.

    Garl

    • DaveH

      Rome isn’t burning. It just seems that way because those in Big Government love to stoke the fires and try to convince the people that we need them to save us. We don’t.

  • Mike V

    The sad truth is oil exploration has been pushed to it’s technological limits by the green movement. Drilling for oil is dangerous and neccessary. I would guess deep water drilling expands the dangerous factor by at least 100. This Country is a veritable storehouse of natural resources and energy production capabilities. Only one problem…can’t drill here, can’t drill there, can’t make nuclear anywhere, wind mills off the coast are eyesores and solar is OK but don’t run those ugly transmission lines from the desert through my neighborhood. Does anyone else se a pattern here? How many of the bleeding heart liberals have parked their cars in favor of a bus, turned off their lights, their TV’s their heaters and air conditioners along with their computers to reduce dependence on fossil fuels? You can’t make any logical progress on any subject if it involves a segment of the population who argue only for the sake of argument and come to the table without viable alternative solutions. The all or nothing mind set will destroy the economy, the environment (yes, the environment) and the Country. The greens do not have the insight or the guts to take a serious look at the consequences of their actions over the last 30 years. Automobiles manufactured today have reduced tailpipe emissions by a whopping 95% over cars made in 1995 and mileage figures along with power have steadily increased as well. That’s not good enough for the greens, they want more. What government program has ever attained a 95% reduction in anything? There is plenty of blame in the green movement’s corner for unreasonably pushing the limits of our technological ability at a pace that guaranteed this disaster to become a matter of when not if. God help us and all the future unemployed victims of the region.

    • John Moyer

      What the greens want is TOTAL control of yours and my life.It doesn’t matter what you do it will NEVER be enough to satisify them or ALGORE either.

      • WarriorH

        Will Tipper remain “green”?

        • angel-wanna-be

          WARRIORH, Tipper’ll stay green as long as Uncle Al, forks over the dough!

        • Save America Susie

          I think Tipper and Al split over the “Green” thing, because he was out flying around the world promoting the global warming speaches. Ignoring her. There are sins of “commision”, and sins of “omission”. They said it was because they “grew apart”. But really it was neglect (or omission). That is what causes marriages to crumble. Neglecting to water the garden, and weed, and nourish the soil. You walk away with a hand full of thorns.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Save America Susie, The old man and I’ve been married 35 years this July, together 38.__During every agrument, I’ve been leaving for 30 years, I just haven’t left yet_LOL! We’ve grown apart, back together, raised two kids and a grandaughter til 6, lost everything in a house fire, cared for sick & dying parents, went through drug addiction with our daughter__Listened to two or three sets of friends, marry for the second and third times and how they’re still not happy___ Good grief, Do ya know how many times each of us could’ve thrown in the towel and didn’t?__We’ve been lucky, we have a chemistry, love, a history and humor!__we’ve been blessed!

          • Save America Susie

            Angel-Wanna-Be, Your marriage and mine sound similar! My marriage to my husband has had it ups and downs for sure after 41 years & 3 kids and grand kids. But real marriage isn’t always sunshine and roses as we know. You have to work at it. That is why people quit so easily. Its hard work. But you know I am thinking as we grow older:”life is short”! You are going to make the same mistakes with someone else if you divorce & try again. Why not try to iron out the rough spots with the original? (Of course, there are exceptions to the rule, for which a person may have no control.) But now we are getting into a place in our lives where we have grown closer than ever & we are seniors. If you wait long enough, you find it becomes sweet and gentle, and you do get to that place of oneness. The little things that used to bother you don’t matter. No one is assured of living beyond a certain age. Anyone of us could die tomorrow….So cherish each day as if it were the LAST day. Always kiss goodnight and say I Love You. It makes a big difference.

      • 45caliber

        The president of the Sierra Club about thirty years ago made a statement that I think explains the thinking of most “green” people.

        He said something along the lines of, “We have to protect the world from destruction! We should build cities with mile-high skyscraper apartments and confine all humans there inside walls. The rest of the world should be allowed to remain wild. The only people who should be allowed out of those cities are us. We need to remain out so we can insure that the world does as well as possible without mankind around.”

        • Doc Sarvis

          Gotta call you on that one. Exactly,who said that and when?

          • DaveH

            This should give you an idea, Doc. The Sierra Club has long been hostile to what they call Sprawl. The significant thing here is not whether their goals are desirable but how they want to achieve them (with more Government force):
            http://www.sierraclub.org/sprawl/overview/

          • DaveH

            And here is another side to that story:
            http://reason.org/news/show/effective-sprawl-solutions-fou

            The bottom line is do we want to make our own life choices, or do we want organizations like the Sierra Club making them for us?

          • Doc Sarvis

            What I was making a call on is the quote in the post which I very much doubt was a real quote but a misrepresentation of what the Sierra Club President may have said.
            That said, if we are going to move away from, at least in part, our reliance on foreign and domestic oil we need to have alternative forms of energy along with better conservation and efficiency standards. Part of the better conservation and efficiency standards include better planning. Many groups and individuals can and should have input into those planning efforts. The Sierra Club has advocated many positions over the years on many topics, it has never dictated policy. I guarentee you that if the Sierra Club dictated policy, the world would be a very different place.

        • Save America Susie

          I agree–That Sierra Club guy is a bit short sighted….Where would we get our food and clothing then? Not from the inside of buildings. We need sunshine too!

          My 1st cousin got his degree in Forestry, and he says the Sierra Club is wrong. I agree. I learned this is college too from my Earth Science class, (as did most of us): You need to allow hunting to manage the herds, or none will survive. The food supply thins if there are too many in the herd, and the health of the herd suffers. That’s how animals may become extinct. You need to thin the trees as well, and allow for spot fires to manage nature. Nature does it itself, even if we don’t. Lightening strikes cause many of the nature fires, even if man did not exist. But if you want certain animals to survive, you need to manage nature, much like the Wild Animal Parks do.

          • Save America Susie

            Plus, You can go too far the other way as well. That why there are limits on hunting. For instance, the Bison population, which was over-hunted, was almost totally extinct, and then were brought back to healthy size by man’s management skills. That is a good thing about Animal Parks, to bring back the scarce populations by management.

    • 45caliber

      As you mentioned the sad truth is that we have energy reserves here. In fact, one oil deposit alone (still untouched) has about 2000 years worth of oil in it but we aren’t allowed to drill. The known oil deposits in oil shale in the US and Canada are more than all other deposits in the world – put together. Due to the exploration we’ve done in the US, we know that the US alone has more KNOWN deposits than the rest of the world put together. The Mid-East has used up over 80% of their known deposits but that is where most of the world’s oil now comes from.

      We use some oil from the Mid-East (most from Iran – not Iraq), but most of our oil comes from Venezuala, Mexico, and Canada. Most Mid-East and Iraqi oil goes to France and Germany.

      The greens (liberals) always insist that “we need to keep this oil untouched for our children!” I don’t know about you but my children were grown about ten years ago. And they can use it now.

      • DaveH

        Yeah, and if anybody thinks they really care about our children, then just ask them why they are promoting the indebtedness of our children.

        • Save America Susie

          daveH, That’s just it, they can’t see beyond themselves or their lifetimes.

  • bcorp

    Couple reasons for Obama to drag this out 1) profits for his friends and perhaps himself with Nalco, 2) his agenda to hurt the US economy and to profit his foreign friends.

    • Raggs

      you-betcha!

  • the goat

    he is just a con man with a good line of scat and probably ran for pres. on a bet, because he surly knows nothing about anything other than being a chickensh%* when it come to foriegn affairs, like kissing someones shoes in a bow.a real piece of dung he is all around

  • owldog

    David Gergen is an ADHD adult

  • Joe

    The author’s point is refuted when you remember that it took 10 months to plug the Ixtoc spill, and that site was drilled in only 160 feet of water.

  • owldog

    THE CORPORATE NEOCONSERVATIVE RECIPE FOR DISASTER

    “drill baby drill” + “get government off our backs” = “spill, baby spill”

  • owldog

    from the article above:

    “David Gergen, a centrist political commentator…”

    centrist maybe, if you see Reagan as Left Wing. The PBS NewsHour used to put Gergen (for the right) against Mark Shields (for the left)on the Friday night political round up discussion. Gergen seemed to lose his “emotional intelligence” temper on too many issues they discussed, and has gone farther to the right since.

    How one characterize the position of public figures (right or left on the political spectrum) should be relative to the general population, not relative to the author’s personal political persuasion.

  • owldog

    “The Greens Made Us Drill So Deep” ?

    What ever happened to “Beyond Petroleum”?

    Was that the true corporate direction? Or just a Public Relations campaign?

  • John Moyer

    Lets not blame Bush for katrina.I want to know where the 300 million dallars went that we as ordinary americans sent there.Where the hell did it go besides POOF!I blame the environmentalists for this latest problem in the gulf by forcing oil companies ever further out into very deep waters hoping that one day this would happen so they can shut down the entire country and its supply of oil.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct. In fact, it turned out that every penny sent to NO to be used to make sure everything was okay for hurricanes was given to one of the mayor’s biggest supporters to “make sure the bridge is strong enough to handle an evacuation of the city.” Every year.

    • Claire

      Do you ever wonder what happened to the stimulus money a lot of the states received? What did they do with it all? I thought it was supposed to help create jobs-the infrastructure?? Illinois spent $300,000.00 on a bike trail. I think IDOT got a little, but where is the rest of it? Disgusting.

      • Save America Susie

        Claire, I’ve been wondering that too….But a bike trail is not going to help get more jobs. Now they should have started a small business with that 300,000, and then they could have hired people.

        • Claire

          Susie_ Oh yeah, the bike trail really gave people a lot of jobs! Yuk.
          Illinois politicians are disgusting, all of them. Why don’t decent and honest people run for office??!! None of them are fit to be dog catcher.

          • Save America Susie

            Strangely, something happens to people when they get elected. Suddenly they have massive power (they think). Then they begin to be corrupted. Power corrupts. It is a rare politician who is wise, and works for the people.

          • Claire

            Dog catcher??? In fact, I wouldn’t let any of them near my dogs. Especially Brady the guy that likes to save money (?) by killing dogs and cats in a room all together via auto exhaust. Real nice guy. The creep.

  • Buck

    Take your ignorant assertions and eat your crude oil seafood. The Greens didn’t win the election. the same Puppet Masters control both democrats and republicans and they serve only one master the same as you do Money not mankind.Take your Divide and Conquer Philosphy and put it where the Sun doesn’t shine!

    • Save America Susie

      Buck, But you know, most of the Dems say they are “Green”. I think that is what they are talking about.

  • Raggs

    Has anyone but me seen that everything obama touches turns to stuff!

    He goes to Mexico… A week later Swine-flu outbreak.
    He goes to Poland… A week later plane crash killing the prez of poland and 130 others.
    He signs a bill to allow offshore drilling….A week later you know the rest. And that is just the tip of the iceburg.
    He gets elected and a week later the economy collapse.

    And all of this he blames on Bush.

    • WarriorH

      Keep on eye on the Blago trial. I don’t believe Bush will even be mentioned but if the dums think they can sell it to the sheeple they will try.

      • Save America Susie

        “W” is blamed so much for everything…I think if Blago is found guilty, they will put “W” in jail in his place, as a scape goat.

    • Doc Sarvis

      The economy collapsed before the election my friend AND he has not blamed any of those other items you listed on Bush.

  • 45caliber

    For those blaming Bush for this spill:

    Bush changed some of the rules, so you blame him for the spill. BUT … Oblama had time to change those rules IF they were the cause. This well site was approved by Oblama’s people and drilled on his time. Bush had nothing to do with it, so guess who you should blame?

    Wake up, People! Just because you believed his campaign promices doesn’t mean you MUST still believe them! Particularly since he’s made it clear that what he says and what he does are two seperate things that shouldn’t be confused.

    • DaveH

      You aren’t going to wake up Liberals. Their gaze is firmly fixed on the prize – your money and your Freedom.
      It’s funny to me how they rail about “Choice” when it comes to the life of a baby, but have no problem at when it comes to taking away our choices.

      • Save America Susie

        Yes, babies are disposable, but whales we must save!

  • Penni Eads

    Alex, Coalminer and Denniso and others like them! Do you ever take time to think about where you came from, why you are here, and where you are going? Your comments expose your ignorance. Take some time to ponder on the purpose of life. Do you have children? Do you work? Do you have care about anyone except for yourselves? Do you believe in God? Do you believe in the Son of God, our Savior, Jesus Christ? Do you believe in satan? Do you believe that we are created in the image of God? That we are children of God? Is it possible that some of us care more about doing what’s right than stealing from others or having lots of money or complaining? There are still people on this earth motivated by morals, people who are filled with faith in God, and people who will do whatever it takes to protect their lives, their freedom, their families, their homes,food,and water and whatever they need for survival! Take some time for meditation and prayer and prove the Lord that he will not pour you out a blessing!

  • 45caliber

    On Drilling Deep:

    The greens refuse to allow the US to drill in shallower water for fear of spills. So we have billions of barrels of oil sitting there off shore on three sides of us.

    And guess what? China comes in, sets up a drilling rig just outside the American sea border and drills into it. (About half way between Cuba and Florida). So instead of getting a US company that knows how to drill safely we allow a Communist country to drill – and then sell us the oil. Makes lots of sense, doesn’t it?

    • Claire

      45caliber—Okay, but I have a question. When was this oil rig built? During which administration?

      • JeffH

        The Obama administration…that’s when the drilling started.

        • Claire

          JeffH–Okay. I was curious when the rig was built. So it is a newer rig. I don’t know what to say, I ran out of words. I posted all my aggravations earlier. I am just sick over the entire ordeal.

          • JeffH

            I’m with ya Claire, and also just sick of politics too.
            Hey, on a good note, the women in politics had a pretty good showing yesterday, how about that.

          • Palin12

            Jeff, we all know that everyone Obummer campaigns for loses, but did you notice everyone Palin campaigns for wins?

        • Claire

          JeffH–I did not even watch the news yesterday I was so fed up with everything. I’ll check it out today since I am calmed down.

    • 45caliber

      Just to get you excited again, I heard – but have no proof – that Hillary’s first trip to China right after Oblama took office was to insure that they kept buying our Treasury notes and didn’t sell instead. Supposedly she promised that if we renigged on those notes that China would have all our off-shore oil. And that is supposedly the reason Oblama and company does NOT want any US company to drill in US waters. This is, of course, only a rumour – but it does explain why they have kept buying.

      Incidently, I’m not sure but I believe the BP leaking well is NOT in US waters. That is one reason it is where it is in deep water. The oil slick is here, of course.

    • Claire

      45caliber–Nothing about politics makes any sense. They are all crazy.

  • Robert

    carol you are a lost cause. If the invirmentalist could see past their stupid stupidity they would know that nuclear power does not polute. it is clean and works 24/7 and is unlimited. invirmentalists hate something that works and does not need them to mess everything up. how come we do not have the nuclear power ? they put all kinds of road blocks and obsticals by them and our progressive politicians that do not know their rear from their empty head. tell me again how the envirmarnalists know better???? envirmentalists and progressives are our worst enemy and should be put in asylums.

    • Buck

      What do you call nuclear waste, If not pollutants?

    • MrDover

      What kind of ignorant moron are you? Don’t you know computers have spell check?

  • Raggs

    So…guess what people and sheeple…

    I will say this much..
    Post November elections this country will head in one of two directions.

    The 1st being that the dumbocraps will lose both the house and senate in which will upset the progressive movements ( unions )and possibly set off a war within our border. After all that is what they want to steal from the working class.

    2nd.. obama remains in power over both the house and senate and further pushes his Marxism in which will also cause a war within our border.

  • Claire

    I say this again–Bush did not cause Katrina. This horrible oil spill?? All administrations had a hand in this mess. They did not have the inspections like they should have had. They turned the other way because oil companies donate to their campaigns. Plus the fact they did some deregulation. BP did not have the proper equipment to stop a leak of this magnitude and I wonder if they even had the proper equipment to handle a smaller leak?? All politicians play up a crisis. To hell with the politicians. This crisis is disastrous. It is the worse oil spill in the world, if not now, it soon will be in a matter of a few days. I am truly concerned for the welfare of the gulf states and the economy. I am truly concerned for the fishermen and their families, I am truly concerned for the wetlands, and the marine life. Yes, I am proud to be an evironmentalist, but I am not radical. I believe in taking care of Mother Earth but yet we have to have our own oil.
    The environmental groups we have are too radical. They should not be calling the shots in this need for our own oil. All I know is that the ones in charge better get this mess straightenend out as fast as they can. This is serious business. The so-called leadership of this administration sucks. BP sucks. The whole system sucks. Since the blame game is being played, I blame all of them for this stinking mess. They all need their a$$es kicked.

    • Claire

      Plus the fact BP has lied about the oil “plumes.” That is what sickens me about BP. They have lied about the “amount” of oil being spewed into the gulf. They are all liars and I am sick of it.

      • Claire

        I am on a rant. I am sick of the lying, the cheating, the thievery, the total lack of any ethics, morals, the conniving, the greed, and the pathetic politicians who manage to stay in office when they live the life of debauchery. I will never ever believe a word any of them say. I am done., I am finished with the political farce that has ruined our Nation. I am totally fed up with the greedy politicians that claim to love America. All they love is the power, the money, and what America can do for them. They don’t give a crap about anything but themselves. I am sick of Illinois politics. I will not vote for any of the corrupt, lying, cheats that are running for office at this time. God help me and God help us all.

        • Save America Susie

          I feel your extreme frustration, Claire….And I hope and pray that no hurricanes hit that oil spill. It would be terrible! Hurricane season is on the way. Somebody better act fast–that is all I can say.

          • Claire

            Susie– I was so frustrated last night. I wish I could fix the leak myself. I guess I am being childish about this, but I can’t believe they don’t realize the damage that has been done. Oh yeah, when the hurricanes hit it is going to be horrible. The plumes, what are they doing about the plumes?? Nothing!! These plumes are huge!! Where are the tankers? I thought one was coming? The government is not paying attention to the people of America. None of the administrations have. All these years and the politicians got by with anything they wanted to do. I blame myself too for voting for them.
            My friend in Florida is fit to be tied. I’m fit to be tied.

          • Save America Susie

            I have friends in Florida too. I pray for them. They live on the west side. Not good!

          • Claire

            Susie– My friend is on the west side too. Now I hear tourists are cancelling reservations at the beach-front hotels. For shame. Shame on these dang politicians, BP, the radical environmentalists and on and on. Shame on them for not doing their jobs properly. Shame on them for throwing all caution to the wind. I hope the bast—- suffer in one way or another over this. I hope they all reap what they have sown. They have all sown the seeds of destruction, and they have failed miserably. If I could, I would spit in their faces. All of them. As far as I am concerened they are the lowest of low. Normally I am not a person that hates, but boy I am sure close to it now.

  • paul

    Correction and Aditions Niggard One Who is Poluted Corupted Vulgar and Offensive
    Since They Murderd J.F.K.Randy Weavers Wife Son Samual and Dog Striker andThen David Koresich His Father in law,and 102 More That were Killed at WACO Texas.
    Do Not Attend any Janet Reno Bill Clinton organized ATAF OR the FBI Barbicue They Like Their Meat To Well Done

    • 45caliber

      A note I posted on one of yesterday’s blogs.

      “Remember David Koresh and the Branch Davidians?”

      Do I ever! The day of the fire, I was listening to the radio on the way to work. They went to their reporter at the site and asked him what was going on. “I don’t know what is going on,” he said. “In the last half hour there have been seven fire trucks and five ambulances that went by here and are now at the federal officers’ site.”

      So when I got to work, I turned on my radio there. Two hours later the place was burning. The reporters had an FBI spokesman address them. One asked why the fire trucks weren’t sent up to put out the fire. The FBI spokesman said, “We didn’t know there was going to be a fire so we don’t have any trucks available.”

      So I watched. The next morning there was just a big pile of ashes. The reporters were allowed to come up to a point two hundred yards from the ashes. On top the pile was a M-60 machine gun with a polished wood stock. The spokesman stated that they had “found” the machine gun in the ashes. Riiiiiight!!

      The governor sent in the Rangers to check. The Feds informed the Rangers that they were in charge and the Rangers (about six of them) wouldn’t be allowed in to the site. The Ranger in charge informed the feds that they had one of three choices: 1) they could allow the Rangers in, 2) the feds could go to jail, or 3) the feds could die. The feds let them in. The Rangers made a list of all weapons found. NONE were illegal. They did find a barrel for a machine gun but no gun. This invalidated all Federal reports of being shot out by machine guns.

      A friend works at a nearby hospital were some of the bodies were taken. ALL bodies showed that they had been shot squarely between the eyes. It is almost impossible for a person to shoot themselves between the eyes. That is done by executioners. The way Koresh’s group had learned to commit suicide was the shoot themselves under the chin, an easy way. None were killed that way.

      There were a number of other questions that I had. For instance, the news cameras showed a scene where the tank smashed into the building and then backed away. A streak of fire was dying from its flame-thrower barrel. The Feds insisted that this was actually a piece of steel caught on the barrel that was reflecting sunlight.

      At the time there was a video out that you could get of the uncut news video. I gave my copy to the library to let others see but it’s long gone. You may be able to find a copy and see for yourself. Another shot was also of interest to me. As the tank first went toward the house, it passed the air pipe leading to the buried bus where the kids were supposed to have gone. There was smoke coming out the pipe.

      I wrote to my Congressman and asked answers to these things. A couple of weeks later he sent me a letter. “I asked the FBI and they explained all of these,” he said. “So I’m satisfied that everything is okay.” But he never gave me the answers even after I asked again.

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        The government did the same thing to the Move movement in Philadelphia. They made them out to be child molesters, living in squalor, yada yada yada. The same garbage we all heard about branch davidian and Jones Town. The fact most move members were black made it even easier to slip it by the sheeple and both red and blue bigots. They just wanted to be left alone and that’s fighting words to a regime that needs to control every thing.

      • Claire

        45caliber– I have written letters, sent emails until I have been blue in the face. All the replies I ever received were stupid and evasive.

      • JC

        Just more false flag bull! It’s disgusting 45 that people there weren’t prosecuted for murder.

    • Allan

      What language is this?

  • Norm

    Tony Hayward the CEO of British Petroleum or BP Oil received over 6 million dollars in compensation last year. For that kind of money BP oil was cheated since as a CEO Mr. Hayward would have the responsibility to ensure safe oil drilling for his corporation. Mr. Hayward’s compensation package was increased by 41 percent which doubled his income from the year previous even though oil profits were lower by 45 percent. Is BP Oil rewarding a CEO for poor performance or what is the reasoning of increasing the CEO”s pay without increase in profit or performance? It appears that Tony Hayward was compensated more for reducing “operational costs” such as fewer safety measures and fewer shut off valves and cutting corners to increase profits.

    Mr. Hayward was compensated for increasing the companies operational performance and by increasing daily oil production however did Mr. Hayward increase the safety of BP Oil operations? We think not. In fact Mr. Hayward’s lack of attention to safety will cost the company tens of billions of dollars in the clean up and the pending lawsuits for what is being called the Biggest Oil Disaster Spill in History of the United States.

    • Raggs

      Norm..You are a Marxist!
      Spread the wealth, degrade the very ones that put food on your table.
      Pathetic P.O.S! you are the slug of the earth that corrupts our government. I have no pitty for you, you disgust me with your blame when you are the problem… Take your obama and fly!

      • JC

        Don’t hold back Raggs, what are you trying to say? ;)

      • Norm

        Raggs
        So BP and company are the good guys and the taxpayers are the bad guys. May Obama should borrow some money to pay off The clever BP management team.
        You are one sick dude. Before you throw the word communist around you should learn what it means.

        • Raggs

          Turn off oprah and get a clue Norm.

          • Kinetic1

            Raggs, what are you thinking? Norm points out that this guy is paid a fortune for nothing and you blow a gasket! Would you feel the same way if a well paid pitcher lost the World Series? Wouldn’t you scream that he should be benched and loose his multi million dollar contract? If corporations are going to pay their CEOs millions of dollars a year, shouldn’t we at least expect some veneer of competence, or is that a sign of communism where your from?

          • JeffH

            Kinetic1, who’s doing the screaming…you, not Raggs…YOU!

    • DaveH

      Norm,
      Hayword’s compensation package is absolutely none of your business unless you are a stockholder.
      As far as your accusations go about his conduct, do you have any references? Surely, you don’t expect us to just take the word of a Liberal.

      • Norm

        DaveH
        So Dave where do you stand? Is BP not at fault?
        I don’t care how much Hayword gets paid, but I’d like to see him face up to his responsibilities and clean up this mess. This disaster is worse in many ways then the 9/11 terrorist attack. Not in loss of life, but in terms of long term suffering and an assault on property and assets not owned by BP.
        If I build factory next your house and detroy it and polute your land, accidently, in the pursuit of profits do I owe you anything?

        • JC

          Norm says:
          June 9, 2010 at 6:31 pm
          DaveH
          So Dave where do you stand? Is BP not at fault?

          I’ll take a run at this.

          There are three companies involved not counting the White House.
          BP, Transocean and Halliburton. The latter were contracted by BP to extract the oil…”BP”s oil.
          So, is BP at fault? Whoever was on board making the decisions is directly at fault and so far no one is talking about who that was.
          Is BP taking responibility? Yes.

          So If you hire an Arborist to cut down a 6o ft. tree in your front yard and he drops it on your neighbors roof, are you at fault? No.
          Are you responsible? Yes.

          Anyone polluting an environment we all share is guilty of property damages as far as I’m concerned. And the guilty party should not only clean it up but be penalized according to the level of damage assessed.

          You good now?

          • Claire

            JC–And I agree with your post, especially the last sentence. Whomever is at fault should foot the bill and clean up the mess. But first, stop the leak!!

  • Al Sieber

    Paul, I know what you’re trying to say, who controls everything, the money, the media etc. check out the website: iamthewitness.com.

    • Ono Nadagin

      Nice link to a racist anti-Semitic website. everyone Al is a Jew hater just go to the link and view what this nutjob thinks

      And Al if the Jews control the media as you claim then why were they hammered last week for defending a legal blocade in attempts to stop arms from getting to Hamas? I bet if you could have made it you would have loved to have been one of those Americans on that boat beating the IDF troops with pipes in a ‘peaceful’ demonstration.

      • JeffH

        Al is far more enlightened than the ono with the blinders on…look outside the box, Al isn’t a jew hater but peple like the Rothschilds are behind the economic decline of the world, that is the problem the world is faced with. Check out this website for starters: http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=338

        • 45caliber

          If you don’t already know, the Rothchilds OWNS the Federal Reserve. It was turned over to private ownership in 1933 by FDR and they ended up with it.

        • libertytrain

          Jeff H – that’s one bandwagon I’m not climbing onto -

          • JeffH

            I don’t blame you…kinda touchy, but it is what it is.

          • JeffH

            that as for you libertytrain…

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – there are jerks in all races, types, religions of people. There’s suddenly enough hatred growing again for the Jewish people. I won’t proliferate more – I don’t understand how people have forgotten the 6 million or so that were killed on the whim of one man’s thinking.

          • Claire

            libertytrain=–I agree with you–how can any decent human being forget what happened to the Jews?? How can any decent human being forget the atrocities of this world? How can anyone forget the damage the administrations have done to America? All of them, they all had a hand in destroying our economy, jobs,, everything. This oil spill has been the straw that broke the camel’s back for me. The ineptness and lack of any common sense whatsoever is appalling. I believe the people on this site could do a better job at handling the affairs of America. At least we care.

          • eyeswideopen

            Claire, does that mean you would allow off-shore drilling?? Or do you mean that you would enforce stricter regulations?? Five years ago, my mother-in-law visited, Alaska and saw the damage that the EXXON spill created, and took pictures showing how if you moved a rock the oil was still there. Asboutely horrible. Government is good when it protects us from greed. Sadly, it has been hampered by a group of people who put their own self interests (money) above those of the country. Gee that statement covers the Wall Street Debacle, the Oil spill, the Coal minning disaster and the Iraq war. Ironic isn’t it??

          • Claire

            eyeswideopen—I am not in favor of offshore drilling. I never have been. But “they” don’t listen to me. However, since there already is offshore drilling in numerous areas, I would have demanded/expected that the oil companies have the proper equipment, knowledge and the usage of safety measures in case of an oil leak. Accidents do and will happen due to faulty mechanics, lack of safety measures, human error (carelessness) and laziness, lack of proper inspection, and lack of “proper” equipment (caps) to stop an oil leak. The government should have some regulations set in place to prevent misuse regarding safety factors/equipment. When I say this, I do NOT mean total governmental control. I refer to common sense on the part of the oil companies and the government. Common sense is sorely lacking in both of them. They are both at fault for this disaster. And look who is suffering and will continue to suffer for this inepteness–American people, the environment plus wildlife. (I am an environmentalist and proud of it.) There should be no offshore drilling, we have plenty of opportunties for oil here in the U.S. We should do our own drilling, and use our damn heads when we do it. There are many ways to protect the environment and the habitat when doing onshore drilling. We have the technology, we just have to be sure to have the proper means to stave off any disastrous oil spills. I am fully aware about the outcome of Exxon. Don’t get me started on that. I am also fully aware of the politicians and their penchant for greed.

          • Claire

            ineptness

          • Palin12

            That’s nice. I was in Valdez, Alaska 3 years ago and it looked pretty awesome to me. I’ll post some photos if you like.

          • Claire

            Palin12–Your post is good to hear. After all these years, the Exxon mess is getting cleaned up. Look how many years it took. Look how many years this current oil spill is going to take to clean up.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I’m with you. And while so many of the leftist on this site make a joke out of “Atlas Shrugged” (and of course, they would – under the circumstances) but I can’t help but feel we are living out that novel right now.

          • Denniso

            Sorry Liberty,but Atlas Shrugged is a novel,like many novels and science fiction that have been predicting doom and gloom for at least a hundred yrs. It is a fairly good novel,if simplistic and one dimensional,but it is one woman’s dire prediction,that’s all.She was also shaped adversely by her childhood in Communist Russia and so not surprisingly went overboard w/ her ideology.

            Look up Ayn Rand to see how not to conduct your personal life..

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – we all know you have a problem with Ayn Rand and her books — but of course, you would.

          • JeffH

            Denniso, I guess one could say that your “ideology” is a strange to others as Ayn Rand’s “ideology is to you.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain,I agree with you 100%. Ayn Rand just riffles the featers of some on this site. The fact that she could write such fiction and yet many of her words ring so close to home, true and on the money is astounding to me. Some just have a better vision than others i guess.

          • Denniso

            No JeffH, Ayn Rand doesn’t RUFFLE anyones feathers,she’s just a joke as a political philosopher,though not a bad novelist. People following her because she wrote some decent make believe stories is as funny as the followers of L. Ron Hubbard,the science fiction writer and god of Scientology.

          • JeffH

            Not true…you have always made derogetory remarks each time Ayn Rand is quoted or mentioned Denisso.

            If any civilization is to survive, it is the morality of altruism that men have to reject.
            Ayn Rand

          • Denniso

            So, your true colors come out,JeffH…do you really belive,as Rand did, that we would have any ‘civilization’ at all w/o altruism? W/o people helping others and the especially the poor and sick? It strikes me as ironic as hell that supposed Christians fall for Ayn Rand’s truely anti Christian ideology…dod eat dog,survival of the fittest. Great idea,then we can behave just like the ‘lower’ animals who have no choice but to devour each other just to survive…

            I wonder,how do the Christians feel about letting the less fortunate fall by the wayside so that we can run Ayn Rand’s experinment to see if ‘civilization’ would progress,or implode into more of a jungle mentality on our streets and homes.

          • JeffH

            Denisso, all I did was prove a point…you have responded to every mention of Ayn Rand hook, line and sinker with derogatory comments…as I said “you have always made derogetory remarks each time Ayn Rand is quoted or mentioned Denisso.” Low and behold, another off the wall Ayn Rand rant by duh!nisso…who da thunk!

            It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.
            Ayn Rand

          • JeffH

            Just curious, but why do some of the liberal hacks start a good portion of their responses and comments with the words “SO YOU”?

            I’ve found that is the point that they(liberals)start putting their own spin and words into the meaning of anothers comments.

            Any other ideas about that?

          • Claire

            JeffH– Read my post above regarding the USS Liberty….

          • JeffH

            Claire, read it several times…make one question everything these days…I think the USS Liberty was a “victory” shipp converted to a research vessel and was supposed to be there to collect intelligence on the Six Day War. Supposedly their was a communications error between the US and and the USS Liberty regarding a withdrawl from the mediterranian Peninsula.

            One only knows what is the truth today.

          • Claire

            JeffH— The USS Liberty was in international waters-Israel had no right to do what they did. I think sometimes Israel can be a bit too hasty.

          • Claire

            JeffH–I am not anti-Jewish. One of my best friends is Jewish. I am simply stating what I think.

          • JeffH

            Claire…never passed my mind. Like I said, it sure makes one wonder.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            what happened on the Liberty is way beyond haste and an accident. There are many accounts by the captain, crew members and even members of the 6th fleet who could have come to their aid and were ordered to stand down (just as interceptors that we’re called to stand down on 9-11.. interceptors that routinely intercept flights that have strayed of course through out the year (oops..other thread). If you haven’t really researched this well you should. Specially some die hard supporters of Israel as I once was. Actually this incident is what first opened my eyes to the control the pro Israeli lobby has in the US. Regretfully my resentment to the lies and manipulation is immediately labeled as anti-semetic. My partner is Jewish but not a zionist. I am opposed to zionism and there are plenty of Christian zionists out there (I once was one). I’m not ashamed that I was a pro Israel Zionist supporter. I had been duped as are most. Also, being brought up Christian, the bible gives the impression of the Jews as victims of the nasty Egyptians and what not. The Bible conveniently left out that the when the Jews were in power they with out hesitation killed any one who didn’t worship god in the manner they felt was proper. The city of Jerusalem had been occupied for centuries before David and his clan attacked it. The Jews, are not and were not the original occupiers of that land. The land of milk and honey was begotten by blood and tears of the existing population.

          • Claire

            Duende–Your first sentence–do you think it was an accident? Or are you categorizing the word “accident” as being “way beyond” an accident?

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            hi Claire. My first sentence was “what happened on the Liberty is way beyond haste and an accident.” i was implying it was done neither in haste, nor was it an accident. The accounts of the crew members who had eye contact with the pilots Israeli jets that passed over the plane so close in the hours before the attack. Even waving if I recall. The American flag flown so visibly that no one could have not seen it. This was not an unfortunate accident of war. This was done for some reason I can’t fathom and the fighters from the 6th fleet that were ordered to stand down were no accident. I have no ideas what the goal of this whole fiasco was but “what happened on the Liberty is way beyond haste and an accident.”

          • Claire

            Duende–I do not believe it was an accident either. At the time my husband and I were thinking “What the heck.” Although I abhor and truly regret the Holocaust, this episode with the USS Liberty inserted a “red flag” that I have not forgotten after all these years. Neither has my husband. Whatever the reason, it was shoved under the rug. Sometimes things are “not what they seem” with “some” countries that are supposed to be our allies/friends?! I hope you get my drift. I have the gut feeling “some” of these countries would give us the shaft if they could and actually had the opportunity. Obama needs to grow up and realize there will never be global peace. He is living in a dream world.
            If I am trampled on once and it not my fault, there will not be a second time. If I allow it a second time and it still not my fault, then shame on me for being weak.
            Speak softly and carry a big stick. America needs stronger leadership in many ways.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            Hi Claire
            Yup.. the Liberty was a red flag for me as well. As far as other countries being our friend or not will depend on how much money can be made from a conflict with a certain country or not. I do believe there can be peace on this planet but it starts within. It doesn’t depend on what the other guy is doing (they may be waiting to see what you’re doing). That’s about the only thing I know for sure in this life. I know that and I know that an elite group of people would like to run the planet and they don’t represent the better interests of this country or any other for that fact (except for Israel due to the Rothchild influence (no fault of Jews on a whole though too many are avid zionists). I know if we don’t make that a center of all discussions we’ll get no where since so many other “hot topics” are mere diversions.

          • Palin12

            I am all for charity when it’s voluntary. I contributed to the Haiti fund and I felt real good about doing so. I draw the line when the government wants to involuntarily force me to pay for one of their causes, such as welfare for illegal aliens and their anchor babies.

          • Claire

            libertytrain– I have not read Atlas Shrugged. I do know that a lot of books are uncanny in their writings about the world and what the future holds. Nostradamus for one. Like JeffH said, some people do have a vision. At this stage of the game, I do not want to know what the future holds, if I did have a vision, I would probably be crying my heart out. In contrast, I have a pretty fair idea as to what the future holds. I better have a supply of Kleenex on hand.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – Atlas Shrugged is just basically a story of the few that DO invent, create, etc… and the takers who continuously take and take – and expect that they deserve what they take even if it’s what you invented or created because somehow you owe to them to create and invent – In this story the Doers realize they don’t have to be pillaged any longer, etc… – excellent read – you’d enjoy it. The book is a zillion pages long and this is just a very loose description of a wonderful read.

          • coal miner

            Claire,

            Nostradamus has been proven a fraud time and time again.Here is one of the Nostradamus Myth websites.

            skepdic.com/nostrada.html · Cached page

          • Claire

            coal miner– That may be, but he is still thought-provoking.

          • Claire

            coal miner–sorry, I forgot to hit reply. My answer to your post is below.

          • Claire

            coal miner–I goofed. It is above…..

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, I couldn’t agree with you more. My link and comments aren’t meant to be hateful or show a hate for jews, I hate no one, and I certainly will never forget the genocide commited against the jews. What my point is meant to mean, and I should have explained it, is that there are zionist jews that are blaming the jews for the worlds economic quandry and manipulations, ie House of Rothschilds.

            It is also said that Zionist Jews Control Right, Marxian Jews The Left. If it comes up enough in different articles one tends to get a little suspicious.

            I should have just kept my mouth shut on this I think.

            I personally don’t care if it’s an atheist controlling all of the worlds problems,

          • JC

            Or as I’ve told people…they could be Irish like me…they’d still be criminals.

          • Ono Nadagin

            Jeff H

            I will take you at your word that you are not anti semitic and you only take issue with the Rothschilds.

            But as I said above anyone that goes to one of those sites and can not tell that they are anti-semitic have blinders of hatred on… those sites are almost mirrors of White Sempremist websites and nobody linking to one of them would not be labled a racist

          • JeffH

            Ono Nadagin, I erred in that the website Al mentioned is a completely racist website and as I reread his comment I ask myself was he pointing out the anti-semetic site for what reason…I considered it as exposing, but I know question myself in my hast to respond. As for the jewish sites I’ve posted now and in the past, it is the jews questioning/warning of other highly influetial jews manipulating the economies of the world to further their own zionistic agendas…the money has all of the power. That is why the House of Rothschilds becomes so important. I will stand down on this for the time being as I need to get a better understanding because of the delicate nature.

          • JeffH

            …now…not know…

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – I know you aren’t anti-Semitic – but I think it is a dangerous path to walk – like I said, there’s a lot of new hatred forming for the Jew – been going on for a few years now and it seems to be big in the young left eyes – like no one taught them about the past – like they’ve never seen the tattooed numbers on a beautifully dressed older woman – a survivor of the camps. Those numbers were big and ugly – I didn’t know her and I cried – and I’m not thought of as a warm woolly kind of person. I think everyone needs to take a trip through a Nazi death camp.

          • Claire

            libertytrain– Yes, everyone should take a trip through a Nazi death camp. It would probably make me cry, too. I also think every kid should take a trip through the local county jail/drug rehabilitation center and see the real world of crime/and the effects of drug abuse. It sure wouldn’t hurt for kids to see meth users with their rotting teeth, etc. Perhaps this would make a kid think twice about being a criminal and doing drugs. Sounds a bit hard-nose but hey, look at the rap music they listen to. They already learn about sex and drugs when they are at an early age.

          • JC

            I remember Libertytrain…everytime I see or hear anything about those FEMA Camps I remember the victims of the Holocaust.

          • Claire

            librtytrain– While I still agree with my post above, this discussion concerning Israel brings to mind the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967. The USS Liberty was in international waters at the time and flying the U.S. flag. It was attacked by Israeli air and naval units. Thirty-four Americans sailors were killed and 174 wounded. The USS Liberty, a $40 million ship was destroyed. Supposedly it was a case of mistaken identity? Radio transmissions from the lead pilot to his base informing them that it was an American ship was overheard by the American ambassador to Lebanon, Dwight Porter. The lead pilot, who refused the order to proceed with the attack, was arrested when he returned to base and spent 18 years in prison for refusing to kill Americans.
            We failed to protest this assault on the USS Liberty. This said, it troubles me that Israel has assaulted that relief convoy.
            This can be a mixed bag of feelings and thoughts.

          • libertytrain

            Claire, I don’t know the answer to that particular situation. I only know that when it comes to my feelings about these people and what they have endured through the centuries, I have to do what is right and true for me.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–You are right, the Israelis have endured so much. I respect your answer.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            I too feel for the plight of the Jews. However I think it’s rather myopic to demonize the Palestinians who had homes and lands taken from them when a bunch of outsiders decided to split up the place they’d called home for centuries. To demonize them for resenting and resiting this take over and totally ignoring the fact that they were struck first and with some brutal actions by the forefathers of Israel is to be naive and historically ignorant.

          • eyeswideopen

            Liberty, always said you have integrity, unlike most of the radicals who post with hatred. Kudos to you!!

        • JC

          Jeff, I think the Rothschilds (and a few more) are Zionists which is a cult. And all the history I can find on them traces them back to Egypt…not the Rothschilds, but the Cult itself.
          I don’t think that Zionist are Jewish…I think they hide among them and use them as politically correct shields.
          Call me crazy (some will) but I’ve done a ton of homework on this.

        • Ono Nadagin

          LOL Jeff thank you for letting us all know of your hatred for Jews all your past and future comments on this board will be shown for what they are.. those of a anti-semitic.

          The use of the term Zionist is just another way to say Jew and your use of it is a feeble minded attempt to spew your racist antisemitism with out being called racist or anti semitic.

          Zionism is simply the quest for the Jewish people to have their own country.

          The evil you see in Zionists is dimply your hatred for a race invinting conpsiracies and evil plots by Jews.

          I urge everyone to look at the links these two racists put up and read all the ‘Jews’ did this and that BS it is full of, they are racist websites that do nothing but try to attribute any and every evil in the world to the Jews… much in the same way White Supremecist ewb sites attribute all the worlds woes to the Jews also..

          • coal miner

            Ono,

            Wrong,The Palestine area belongs to the Arabs,.Jeffh is right.Zionism is a big threat and even a bigger threat than communist China. Zionist with the help of Joseph Stalin created the state of Isreal and they push out the rightful owners,the Arabs out to starve.That woman reporter was right,Palestine doesn’t belong to the Jews.She got fired for speaking the truth.Isrealis no friend of ours,they have been caught a number of times for spying.The Ukraine and other countries ask Isreal to hand over war criminals for trial.Isreal refuse,they said it was Anti-semitism and they wouldn’t get a fair trial.These monsters Isreal were protecting, commited forty-million murders and created the worst famine in history.Where is the Justice?We tried Nazis.What about the communist?

  • MrDover

    Where are the brave NRA Patriots? I thought I would see the BRITISH BP CEO’s head exploding from a perfectly placed shot on some TV news program. I guess they are too busy driving their gas guzzling pick-ups and ATV’s.

    • Claire

      Mr. Dover–and what kind of vehicle do you drive?

      • Claire

        That is what I thought. No answer?

        • MrDover

          Suzuki, 38 mpg

          • Claire

            I expected you to say you had an SUV. I have a ’94 Chevy Van — 21 mpg on the interstate. In good condition inside and out. I keep it maintained, it gets a physical every spring and in the fall. 151,000 miles on the engine, and it does not burn oil. My husband has a 2002 jeep so I guess we are gas guzzlers. We don’t travel much anymore so we have cut down on gas usage.
            You made the comment there are no Gods. What are you trying to tell me?

        • MrDover

          By the way, you should know there is/are no god/gods.

          • Allan

            You may have taken a wrong turn…the “no God” folks have gone over to Huffington, Daily Kos, Media Matters, etc.

          • Save America Susie

            Food for Thought:

            “Don’t worry about proving God’s existence,
            BECAUSE no one can disprove it.”

            “For those who believe, no proof is necessary.
            For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.”

            “The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God’.” –Psalm 14:1

        • JeffH

          Claire…MrDover is the hack that has used “BenDover” in the past..another leftist troll attempting to disrupt this site.

          • Claire

            JeffH–Oh Grief. Thanks for telling me. I did not know this.

  • Norm

    Isn’t it amazing? Louisiana Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal who has done nothing but criticize President Obama and rail against “big government” is now “demanding” that the federal government come to the aid of Louisiana to protect against the looming oil spill crisis.

    It doesn’t stop there. Newly endorsed Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul (tea party activist) from Kentucky insists that President Obama is being “too hard on British Petroleum,” and conservative noise piece Glen Beck shouts on FOX news that President Obama is acting “un-American” in criticizing BP.

    And now to further the hypocrisy, Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski wants to limit British Petroleum’s liability to $75 million. Anti-tax, smaller government Sen. Murkowski proposes to shift the massive cleanup costs away from BP’s deep corporate pockets to the American taxpayers. This all while big oil corporations post record profits. Isn’t it amazing?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/gop-hypocrisy-has-been-ex_b_593521.html

    • DaveH

      Isn’t it amazing that Liberals jump at the chance to tear down the people who supply us with our goods, but they worship a know-nothing President who has never run a business and is spending our country into oblivion?

      • JeffH

        …is it really that surprising????

      • Norm

        DaveH
        You are far less intelligent than I gave you credit for. Sorry for your lack of logical thinking.

    • Denniso

      Murkowski is disgusting…a $75 million cap, when this disaster will run into the many billions…but,it figures. The right wing loves big biz so much that they are usually fighting to get the public,that means us,to pay for one cleanup after another. Corporate misbehavior coverd by taxpayers…amazing!

      • JeffH

        Corporate misbehavior is fueled by a corrupt governments misbehavior. Stop government from recieving the “perks” in their pockets. and you’ll not see as many “favors”. It takes two to tango and the people are the dance floor.

        • JC

          And they are very drunk and wreckless.

          • Denniso

            Surely JeffH jokes…’corporate misbehavior is a result of corrupt gov’t’? Take gov’t regulation away and really see some corporate misbehavior. Read some history of what happened in America before there was any gov’t regulation,and why would regulation have ever been necessary if corporations are so benevolent?

          • JeffH

            Gee duh!nisso, don’t twist what I said…”Corporate misbehavior is fueled by a corrupt governments misbehavior.”

            That’s “FUELED” I hope you would know the difference, but apparently not!

          • Denniso

            Gee,JeffH…’fueled by’ instead of ‘result of’, they sound pretty close to me…are you trying to pull a, ‘it depends on what the definition of is,is???

      • JeffH

        The current law has a liability limit of $75 million in economic damages. It is important to report it as it is, not how it is percieved by the left.

        Murkowski Blocks Bill to Raise Oil Companies’ Liability for Spills
        May 13, 2010
        Under current law, companies responsible for oil spills are required to pay all costs associated with the clean up effort, but only the first $75 million in economic damages caused by the spill. Obviously, the economic impact of the BP Gulf spill is going to be a lot higher than that cap. Nobody knows exactly how much it will come out to, but it’s going to be at least several billion.

        Last week, 14 Democrats introduced a bill called the Big Oil Bailout Prevention Liability Act of 2010 that would raise the $75 million cap to $10 billion in order to ensure that BP is paying for the impact the spill is and will continue to have on the Gulf coast economy, not the business owners and taxpayers.

        The bill’s sponsors today put forth a unanimous consent request to pass the bill. But one senator, Lisa Murkowski [R, AK] objected, which means that the Senate will have to wait until after the financial reform debate is over to hold a series of procedural votes on overcoming the objection, a full debate, and a final vote on passage. Murkowski’s objection does not mean the bill is necessarily dead, but it delays its passage until the Senate can find time in its schedule to work on it. If she has backing from other Republicans, her objections could eat up a lot of precise Senate floor time.

        “Taking the liability cap from $75 million dollars to $10 billion dollars… 133 times the current strict liability limit, isn’t where we need to be right now,” Murkowski said on the Senate floor. She argued that the $10 billion cap is too high because it would prevent smaller oil companies from entering the offshore drilling market.

      • Palin12

        For those of you that don’t know, Lisa Murkowski was appointed Senator from Alaska, by her father, then Governor of Alaska, Frank Murkowski. He also interviewed then-Mayor Sarah Palin for the job, but declined her because she had 2 kids at the time to look after. Then he chose his daughter…who had 3 kids at the time. Sarah went on to beat Frank in the next gubernatorial primary.

    • JeffH

      Obama’s Support For Unlimited Oil Spill Liability May Not Include BP: Congressman
      Congressional officials are worried that despite the White House’s endorsement of unlimited liability for oil companies involved in damaging spills, a new statement of presidential policy may not actually cover the current crisis in the Gulf.

      Rep. Rush Holt’s (D-N.J.) office began airing concerns on Tuesday that the president’s support for dropping numerical limits on the amount of economic damages paid by an oil company would not apply retroactively to BP.

      The New Jersey Democrat sent a statement to the Huffington Post arguing that the government couldn’t “simply take BP and other companies at their word when they say they’ll cover all ‘legitimate claims.” Holt is introducing legislation that would codify the retroactivity of BP’s unlimited liability for the current spill.

      Holt, who is testifying on this issue on Wednesday before the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, contends that the White House statement of policy would not legally affect BP.

    • JeffH

      Normy baby, I just read your leftist propagandized link and it says nothing of what you have written in your comments other than the Huffandtokes leftist propaganda. I’d like to see a better picture here than just your liberal rhetoric.
      How’s Sarah doing?

  • http://nodssor@yahoo.com Barney

    Lets see, we drill 30,000 feet deep in the Ocean, and all the time we have more oil in the Bakken, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming and south. We have 8 times more there than everything the Arabs had or ever thought of having, why don’t we use it. Supposedly over 100 years at present use.

  • Lewis Munn

    Maybe paying attention to I Timothy 6:10 in the Bible would help!!

  • http://gmail i41

    Norm, your stupidity get greater every day or your have your head stuck in some sewer vent. Jindal was on site and was trying to get dregs and sand suckers in place to build berms.Oh, I forgot there is a 3 to 1 sloped berm between your ears, stopping the facts from getting through.If the muslim purple lipped professor hasn’t a idea on what to do. Sure glad this over educated muslim AC/DC just doesn’t know what to do. Jindal couldn’t do a damn thing on moving material, because socialist EPA thinks it needs an enviormental study first be done. By a a federal agencies full of educated paper pushing idoits. That was why you simple minded socialist fecal brained morons.BP was sent to drill in deep water because of you puke brained envior democrats. The reason we drill in water, is it on federal land, because most oil on land is on private owned land, of course socialist don’t beleive in individual land owner ship, for that matter any ownership of anything, even your life. Greenie weinies and democrats should have to pick up the tab, for the cause and the clean up costs of the oil spill. Of course you and the Gorester are real close buds and beleive in the global warming BS, when actually the world is cooling. It is past your sleepy time, so get your mamee, to give you, your Sarah blow up doll, and night, night. Since you have limited brain cells twix your ears, don’t pull the doll up too close to your face, it might restrict your air intake, and we all don’t want you any more stupid,government health care would kill you!

    • Raggs

      No kidding!!!! the pukes like Norm-the-abnorm are just alike.
      You cannot drill on what I own but you can drill on someone else!

      Who the hell gave the government the say on pick-n-chose who gains and who fails?… I thought these bastards were to work for us yet it seems more as if we work for them….. Thats total BS….

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogger.com Stephen Russell

    & Id add:

    I blame Your Past policies
    Present Policies
    & the NO drill offshore
    & excessive Regs to deter other energy sources.
    etc etc.
    & Al Gore & allies.
    & Past Admins & Congress since Carter who estd EPA.

    & Your President wont act since BP paid for his campaign effort

  • DaveH

    Don’t underestimate this guy. He is on a pell-mell rush to destroy our Freedom:
    http://gunowners.org/a060810.htm

    • Al Sieber

      DaveH, thanks for the link, this arrogant, self serving, communist dictator has to go. after only 18-mo. look at the damage he’s done.

      • Shasta

        dont forget to clean house…….altho i would love to see this CHICAGO THUG GET IMPEACHED, i think i would dance naked in the street only wearing a bottle of champayne!!!

    • JC

      From the Link:

      Fresh from his efforts to seize government control of the health services sector (ObamaCare) and the financial markets (“finance reform”), Barack Obama has a new priority: silence his political opposition.

      As satisfying as it was for Obama to seize control of one-sixth of the economy, he has had to suffer protest from the “little people” (like us). So he is pushing the Orwellian “DISCLOSE” bill (HR 5175) to make sure gun groups and other pro-freedom forces cannot mobilize their members in the upcoming elections.

      When Obama says “disclose,” what he really means is “disclose gun group membership lists.”

      Not surprisingly, these efforts to shut down free speech don’t apply to Obama allies, like Democratic-leaning labor unions. They only apply to groups which are not reliable Obama allies, like Gun Owners of America.

      You’re right DaveH. It’s reminiscent of East Germany isn’t it?
      Stock up folks!

      • Claire

        JC– I am stocked to the hilt now. I can’t squeeze in another item.

        • JC

          Good Girl. How about security? Motion lights? Alarms?

          • Claire

            JC–Honey, I got it all. Even 2 watchdogs. lol

          • Palin12

            Claire, my dogs are my first line of security against home invasion. After that it’s “Smith, Wesson, and me”.

          • Claire

            Palin 12 — Good for you. I have to laugh–I have 8 dogs and only 2 of them are watchdogs. The others could care less. Heck, if someone broke into my home these 6 dogs would say “Come on in, we have coffee ready.” However, the burglars would have to get by the 2 that are watchdogs.
            My husband has his Smith & Wessons, and my Glock. But we are not into assault rifles. At least not yet!! lol I guess it isn’t funny, because one never knows what can happen.

  • jopa

    This is really Cheney’s Katrina.Have you noticed his silence on the situation.This is where political payouts and backroom deals get this country of our’s.When president Obama’s eight years in office are up we will try thr Sara Palin /Orly Taitz ticket and see how your two geniuses work out.When speaking of the Greens making the oil companies drill so deep or even on any water source it is the almighty Greenback.

    • Allan

      When will you be posting the documents and tapes proving your claim?

  • http://N/A Bud

    What amazes me is that all this blame does not address the problem. We know there is blame and shame everywhere, but what are we doing with the problem? It is real and it is catastopic no matter who is responsible. To stand and watch all these cry babies accusing each other for what is happening makes me ill, while the devastion grows as they cry. Get the hell over your defenseless positions and get focused on what must be done. Lets attack this problem with all we got, including all parties BP, US government, citizens and resorces. Lets marshall all the help we can muster from any direction and stop this tradgey. We have a commander in chief who should lead us to this conclusion but he doesn’t. We have congress and senate and politicians everywhere and no one steps up and captures the lead. This is the most pithetic display of the spinlessness I have ever witnessed. Screw the regulations and conventional wisdom — lets give our leaders an ultimatum. ACT OR GET THE HELL OUT!!! Do the job you where hired to do. There will be plenty of time later to make the responible pay; for now SOLVE THE DAMN PROBLEM !!! Democrat, republican or otherwise do you want this crap to continue or do you want someone with the cohonas and authority to ACT. Where are you Mr. President?????

  • Raggs

    Well lets see something here…

    Virgina you know the state that first pushed for a lawsuit against obama on health-care has just stated that they submit to the government law. Surely the immigration law that has been passed in Arizona will be the follow-up….

    In other words people ( sheeple ).. you have been bought and sold to the highest bidder… and guess what… you were not invited to the pony show!

    Well you ( me included ) have what you bargained for. – minus my vote.

    Do you get it yet?

    • Raggs

      I would suggest anyone concerned to follow the bouncing ball..

      The reason it is bouncing is to keep you from holding your eyes on the truth.

      Do you get it yet?

  • Robert

    you vote for people who talk nonsense but expect pie in the sky results.. we have oil in over abundance but envirmontal wackos in congress will not let us drill in colorado, alaska; off california, and off the east coast. cry your crocodole tears but you put these idiots in office. you deserve what you vote.

    • JC

      North Dakota, Montana…

      • Al Sieber

        you are right jc, and that was recently we have plenty of oil inland.

    • Al Sieber

      I didn’t vote for either of the S.O.B., I wrote in Ron Paul. to vote for either of the 2 is a vote against the constitution. wouldn’t you rather vote for someone you liked, rather then the lesser of 2 evils?

  • http://yahoo bill

    If people would stop and think about what really happened to the well,it all started with bp engineers,they are responsible for designing the well bore,casing design to with stand formation pressures,they consult with cement co about depths and the cement co designs cement properties if both companies then agree to whats been decided or if bp doesn’t agree they order what they thank is the right type cement,the company man on the rig is in charge of all operations,he takes orders from bp engineers,so who ever told the rig to go ahead after halliburton did the test and said that the test was no good,it was all on bp to decide to proceed forward with cementing casing,they should have left the mud inside of riser pipe,as for as the bop mms requires a test every 7 days if they did not test then again it is on bp because they are in chargr,the toolpusher is over the roughnecks,rig the companyman calls the shots,halliburton is contracted to furnish cement and pump same at bp decisions,so bp made a bad decision and should take full responsibility,mms is also at fault for not doing there part and inspecting the rig on a regular weekly check,the rig owners are responsable for not reporting any problems if bp would not report any and it cost 11 people there lives and a enviramental disaster that we will live with for years to come.

  • Blyker

    It’s easy to point fingers and place blame. Conservatives are responsible for pushing for off-shore drilling… Environmentalists are responsible for forcing drilling in deep water… and Big Oil is responsible for cutting corners ($$$) where it concerns safety and preparedness should a disaster occur. Our obsession with petroleum products is what empowers these companies to continue their negligent practices. We are led to believe that we need these products to survive and like little sheep we follow. Will we be any less American if our pick-ups are not followed by a lack of smoke? The technology for alternatives to petroleum products exists but is suppressed by big oil and paid off politicians and those that made a few thousand bucks by buying oil stock and terrified of investing elsewhere.

    Alternatives to gasoline-powered cars are possible and have been made, however they were bought out by the automotive and oil industry and destroyed.
    Homes can easily be heated by methane gas produced by decaying garbage. As the country that is in first place in the world in amount of trash we generate, we have enough to heat every home in the U.S.
    Combination of wind, solar, and other sources of renewable energy is enough to power most homes in the US. This technology has been around for years and has been suppressed by big oil.
    And, of course last but not least, plastic. Biodegradable polyethyline-like material can be produced from smaller compounds found in nature and recently has been produced in bacterial cultures.
    I’m not an environmentalist, nor am I conservative nor a liberal. I like to think for myself and make deductions using logic rather than follow a trend. I do not know if human-caused polution contributes to global warming or climate change. What I do know is that when I go out for fresh air, I inhale smog. It’s only logical to think that toxins dumped negligently by industries into our environment will eventually end up in our food as will the oil in the Gulf.
    What I want is my children to grow up in a world where they will have clean air to breathe, non-contaminated food to eat, and not fight greedy politicians’ wars under the veil of war for freedom or war against terrorism. It’s up to us, liberals, conservatives, and middle-of-the roads alike, to stop blaming each other for everything and push for a better life for ourselves and our children in unison.

    • Allan

      Average people are not obsessed with oil. We are practical. Want to see a “clean energy” transformation? You don’t have to do it with questionable environmental claims, wishful thinking, and corporate bashing. All you have to do is create a strong enough financial incentive to develop and produce clean energy. And start with existing infrastructure instead of threatening and destroying it. Substantially decrease self-righteous environmentalism and substantially increase incentives for clean energy over oil production, and you’ll see action.

      • Blyker

        there is a difference between practicality and overconsumption and negligence. i’m guilty of it myself and am trying to make steps toward improvement. my questionable environmentals claims are made through research, not pulled out of my ass. the thinking will continue to be wishful until more americans will stop being “practical” and start giving a crap about tomorrow, not about how roomy our SUV’s are or about how many hp’s their engines are. And i think some big corporations deserve a little bashing and alot of regulation, because many are getting away with things that would put the ordinary citizen behind bars. I didn’t see anywhere in my post threatening to destroy the infrastructure… As far as incentives go, all I see is tax cuts for big oil (at least until recently), and in return, politicians getting money in return. we’re getting rewarded with 99-cent plastic wrap and in return keep our mouths shut. As long as politicians are getting paid, very little is going to change and at a very slow pace. It’s us who need to make changes, and not with violence or waving cardboard banners (this is why i don’t want to be associated with environmentalists), but by consuming wisely.

  • kenneth

    i think you all are missing the picture that not many right wing media outlets (choose not to, so they can criticize) report on, that is, that BP says they want to handle the mess themselves. and i think i know why. there has been a lot of cover up in the process, ensuring that they dont get busted for the fact they have been pulling shit they shouldnt have been. i guarantee that there is pressure from halliburton to keep it tight lipped. and let us not forget that the ban was lifted by the Bush admin that allowed for drilling this deep in search for richer oil pockets. deep or shallow this would still be a major problem, so if you wanna blame the Obama admin for slow reaction then dont forget to look to BP first for their insistence on “fixing” the problem their selves. Also remember the track record by the govt in disasters (Katrina), regardless of who is in office they are piss poor.. its not just an issue with the Obama admin!

    • Allan

      So what’s the point? Everyone knows the govt is lousy at its job. Everyone knows greens want oil companies to look bad. Everyone knows thin-skinned Obama confuses blaming others with leadership. As for the cleanup, doesn’t make sense for BP to intentionally do a bad job, lose stock value, and undermine its global reputation. Fact is, we can speculate all we want, but we don’t have the facts.

      • http://agavenews.spaces.live.com Doctor True

        You say that it doesn’t make sense for British Petrolium to do a bad job cleaning up the oil.
        The fact is, that British Petrolium was not prepaired for problems. (They documented that they were ready for any spill.–They lied.
        You also write that some want the oil companies to look bad. In summary, you seem to be making the claim, that the greens like oil spills, but British Petrolium is blameless and would never take shortcuts for profit. I do know some facts–not speculation (whee big word). I do not have the sources all ready, but I will be back.

        • Allan

          That’s right…it doesn’t make sense for British Petrolium to do a bad job cleaning up the oil. Pretty straighforward concept. Whether they met contractual obligations in terms of preparation is a separate question, and no one on this site would say they shouldn’t pay the penalties for lack thereof. I never said BP is blameless. You did. I don’t think our government is prepared for a terrorist attack after seeing how they handled recent bomber attempts. That may not bother you as much as a “corporation” being unprepared, but it bothers plenty of others. Bashing corporations is not enough for Obama and the greens. They want “old” energy companies, such as oil, coal, and nuclear, who are not “appropriate” by their definition, flat OUT OF BUSINESS, regardless of economics, regardless of the lives it destroys. (I personally witnessed this in relation to the timber industry.) Greens don’t like the oil being there, but they do like the blame opportunity. Admit it. No more drilling! No more cutting timber! No more mining! Come out of the closet! You’re just one of many people with a competing agenda. Al Gore would “never take shortcuts for profit”.

  • http://agavenews.spaces.live.com Doctor True

    We need to drill here, so we can increase our supply, right? No, not right. The oil British Petroleum pumps here only increases the world supply–not “our” supply.–(The supply incerase from oil pumped here does not amount to much).
    Moreover, this deregulation fad has been going since Ray-gun.
    The bottom line is that the profit motive and lax regulation caused the disaster.
    John Myers is making a ridiculous claim. He belongs to the same irrational type as the jokers who think that Gods brings bad weather when he is unhappy. Before long we will just go back to burning witches and hanging their dogs when things go wrong–It makes just as much sense as Myers does

    • Norm

      Doctor True
      Amen. A beacon of light in a long dark tunnel.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    I may need to lend my Unicorn to Obama so he can have it go stick its horn in the pipe and stop the oil spill. “And wasn’t it a long way down? And wasn’t it a strange way down”. Leonard Cohen
    Myers if the American people are stupid enough to buy this article…Then you should be forced to drink oil for breakfast for taking advantage; I don’t believe they are.

  • jopa

    Dr True; Very well said.Real nice to have an individual who actually knows what he is talking about.

  • BobbyB

    Dr True apeaks the truth. Everyone is STILL missing the point and the point is, we should have been weening ourselves off oil since the 70s. Watch “Who killed the electric car”. A very instructive movie. Big oil has strangled any attempts at alternative energy that’s come down the pike. We, meaning all of us and our government are owned by big business. Profit is their only motive. [Offensive word removed] we the people.
    Those of you that think BO is a socialist or a Marxist better do 2 things. First, learn what those words mean and second, wake up. Even Ron Paul says BO is a corporatist. He’s owned by BP! The only way this will change is if we stop the [offensive term removed] bickering and get rid of EVERY house member that’s owned by big biz. That’s about 512 of them~

    • Steve in Fla

      A good place to start doing what you are talking about is:

      http://goooh.com/home.aspx

      Let’s clean out our House & take back our government.

  • Norm

    And from the peanut brain gallery:

    “The Gulf of Mexico is a very big ocean. The amount of volume of oil and dispersant we are putting into it is tiny in relation to the total water volume.” —Tony Hayward, May 14, 2010

    “I think the environmental impact of this disaster is likely to have been very, very modest.” —Tony Hayward, interview with Sky News television, May 18, 2010

    “ Yeah, of course I am.” —Tony Hayward, when asked if he sleeps at night, Forbes, May 18, 2010

    “We’re sorry for the massive disruption it’s caused their lives. There’s no one who wants this over more than I do. I would like my life back.” —BP chief executive Tony Hayward, on the oil spill disaster that claimed 11 lives and has spewed millions of gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, May 31, 2010

    “The ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and left out there. It’s natural. It’s as natural as the ocean water is.” —Rush Limbaugh, May 3, 2010

    “There’s a good question today if you are standing on the Gulf, and that is: Where is the oil?” —FOX News anchor Brit Hume, scoffing at the BP oil spill disaster, May 16, 2010

    “From time to time there are going to be things that occur that are acts of God that cannot be prevented.” —Texas Gov. Rick Perry, May 3, 2010

    • Denniso

      Limbaugh says,’oil is as natural as the sea water’…this should prove once and for all how dumb this guy really is. Everything can be called natural,being part of or from nature. So, cyanide is natural…so is radiation,carbon monoxide,dioxin,agent orange,a lightening strike on his head. Limbaugh is so simple that he equates ‘natural’ w/ safe. How in the world can any thinking human take him seriously after such a stupid and kindergarden-like comment??

      Rick Perry’s(gov of the great state of TX) comment also qualifies as at least as juvenile and idiotic…and act of God? God decided that we should have an oil gusher destroy his creation in the Gulf? This is an act of man’s hubris and arrogance and stupidity,coupled w/ our
      apparent need to gorge ourselves on toxic oil for the billions of $$ it produces.

      • coal miner

        Denniso,

        Rush is what John Stewart Mill said about conservatives.Pepole who take this lard A**s seriously,ought to have their heads examine.Small pox,bubonic plague,and germ warfare are natural occurrences.I think they should revoke his license,this guy is a disaster.

        • Denniso

          Literally, I find myself amazed after hearing some of the stupid and mindless comments from Limbaugh,that anyone gives him any credit for having any sort of intellect….

          • Denniso

            Will any of the Limbaugh lovers here defend his latest idiotic remark?

          • Palin12

            At least he knows how many states are in the USA.

          • Denniso

            So, you can’t defend or explain one of his dumbest statements ever? Oil is natural,so don’t worry about it? I hope you aren’t saying by your silence on the question that you still give him any credibility…

          • Palin12

            I don’t regularly listen to Limbaugh. Happen to have a video link? On the other hand, I don’t want to be driving around at 25 mph in a golf cart, isn’t that what the Greenies want?

          • Palin12

            Nothing could be dumber than Odumbo’s remark about visiting 57 states. Can you explain that one? Even a kindergarten kid knows it’s 50.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi58&feature=PlayList&p=AB6B917037071371&playnext_from=PL&index=13

          • Palin12
          • Maryanne

            Well tell you what, most of the stuff that Limbaugh says is down right the truth, there are more people then I would like to believe that don’t have their head on straight enough to want to hear the truth. I think is mostly right on whether you like it or not. Seems EVERYTHING that was right when I was growing up is wrong now, and everything that was wrong is right now and it’s not for the better so wise up and listen to him someday he tells it like it is. I like him.
            There was a scientist on the news the other day said we needed a hurricane to have come across the oil spill and it would have cleaned a lot of it up and maybe that’s what we need now, Obama won’t let the people with proper machines to clean it up, their begging his to let them but he will not give them permission, he loves the rumination of America, isn’t that what he’s doing daily, he doesn’t know where he’s at let alone run the country, I’d take Rush over him any day.??
            Only thing Obama’s good for is his mush in front of a camera

          • Claire

            I am not siding with Denniso or anyone else but thank the good Lord I do not rely on Limbaugh’s finger-tapping, sighing, groaning, twisted form of news? I want to hear common sense and rationality, not theatrics.

      • coal miner

        denniso,

        Drill Baby Drill!

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/drill-baby-drill · Cached page

        • Palin12

          I read about 2 sentences in that article from Huffington, that’s about all I could take. Obviously left-slanted journalism, nothing newsworthy, come right out the gate with personal attacks instead of information.

          • Denniso

            Haley Barbour and Rep Don Young from Alaska both say the oil isn’t toxic and that this is just a natural phenomenon…Palin says we need tougher regulations on the oil industry…sounds like news to me. Some of us non rightwingers wade through rightwing dogma and hate on this site, and you can’t take a little gentle and civilized ribbing about your hero Palin in that article? I thought you people were tough?

          • Palin12

            It’s just more lies from the White House controlled media. Remember Joe Stalin said “control the media and you control the people”. I still don’t understand why you spend so much time here. Don’t you have any liberal friends to hang out with on their blogs? You poor, pathetic creature.

          • Claire

            I called a lady I know that lives in Louisiana, not very far from the gulf. She says it is bad, very bad. I believe this lady before I will believe BP or any politician.

  • http://thatcherthunders.org(currentlyofftheinternet) Russell G. Thatcher

    Does anyone remember the Campeche oil rig that blew off Mexico and the resultant oil blob that drifted up the east coast of Mexico towards the Gulf? How about the big oil tanker that hit “something” off Galveston?

    I was doing military intelligence as a private individual at the time, and had established that the Russians had a military presence in Mexico. The oil leaks, from that perspective, were DIVERSIONARY military activities created by Soviet/Russian Naval Spetsnaz units operationing in our waters. I say the BP oil rig explosion and the resultant release of oil are from the same source! Plus the is much disinformation about what happened. There are Russian agents in the works, even BP.

    There are now thousands and thousands of Mexican combat troops stationed along our southern border, its troops making incursions across our border for years now. What gives them the brass b_lls to do that? They know they are backed up by Russia, China, N. Korea, Cuba, etc.

    If you want to know more about me, Google “Russell G. Thatcher” and/or “thatcherthunders.org”, minus the quotation marks. Include the G. in my name.

    Russia “honored” me by featuring my website and a number of diatribes against it in 2004. See http://www.usinfo.ru/amerikanofashysty.htm

  • jopa

    Funny so many Americans are afraid to defend Helen Thomas on her comments of Israel.I do’nt truly agree with her solution but they people of Israel are occupiers of Arab land.Israel was created by the UN in 1947 on Arab soil.If they were placed in Texas lets say we would have a world of peace.As long as we babysit Israel we will be at war.I would’nt want anyone occuppying America.I would be one of the first up in arms so I ca’nt really blame the Arabs for some of their actions.

    • Allan

      I am Jewish and I defend her right to say those things.
      I also defend her employer’s right to fire her ass, not because of political correctness, but because of character.

      I just read there’s a new push for a law that will govern discrimination on the basis of physical appearance. In essence, if you think you didn’t get what you deserved because someone was more attractive than you, you’ll be able to sue. Remember the old Twilight Zone episode where anyone too attractive was surgically modified?

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        There’s nothing wrong with her character. just her timing. If she’d said that in the late 40′s or early 50′s it would have been spot on. I think it’s a little late in the game to “undo” Israel and send everyone “home”, but we have to start with acknowledging how inappropriate and manipulated it’s existence is. How they’ve continually lied (with the US main stream media seldom if ever challenging one). I do think that every jewish american cowboy from NYC who went over there to carry a gun should be sent back to the US for sure. They just inflame an already bad situation.

        • Allan

          I wasn’t talking about her character. Folks on the far left don’t necessarily require character in the classic sense. If I were her employer I would not have fired her because others thought I should, or for expressing her opinion in general. I would have fired her for her inability to be an objective journalist for the last couple of decades, thereby discrediting her organization. And I hope that’s exactly what happened. The American Indians probably felt our settlement of their land was “inappropriate and manipulated” too. So all the trouble over there stems from Israel’s lies? That’s basic anti-Semitism in my book, and you have a friend in Helen Thomas.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            Only one problem with comment. She was an accurate reporter and the whole region of Palestine is occupied by Jews of European of Slavic descent. I can;t agree with her say the should go back.. to late for that even if only 70 years have passed since it was declared a state by a bunch of foreigners to the middle east.

            And yu.. the native american was screwed blue by the red white and blue (never mind the africans, and chinese), but I’m not suggesting we go back to europe or asia or wherever our ancestors came from. Just to be honest and quit this sorry argument that “my grandparents never owned slaves or the like” If you’re white and in america, you’re benefiting from the slave labor or the taking of the land of all those mentioned. I lived in San Diego.. they get slave labor from across the border. Seem like some criminal element is coing in as well, but the large majority are just people trying to get good work but they’ll work for wages that the majority of americans won’t work for.. or can’t work for if they want to maintain a “reasonable” life style. Lots of anger over this and the mexicans aren;t the problem. It’s the Bankers (Jewish or not) :-)

          • JeffH

            Duende,you said: ” I lived in San Diego.. they get slave labor from across the border.” Get off of the “slave” thing…the illegals choose to become “slave labor”, they aren’t “forced”. Their choice, and yes those hiring them are wrong for it but it was their choice to cross illegally for “slave” wages, nobody elses.

          • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

            This is a reply to Jeff in a thread which doesn’t have the REPLY tag on it.

            Jeff.. the mexicans come to San Diego do to a form of economic slavery. Yes, it;s voluntary, but in the same way that I voluntarily get out of the way of a speeding train. However when I said “slave labor” in my post I was intoning that Americans are very happy to pay these people a wage they would never want their children working for, so hence forth there really isn’t a lot of desire to stop the flow. i should have said that the Mexicans gladly come across the boarder to work for slave wages.

          • Claire

            Allan—Exactly how many “objective” journalists are there? I can’t think of too many. A lot of them have a tendency to insert their own little “innuendos” when reporting the news.

  • ron

    Did I miss the part where the deals Dick Cheney made wit the oil companies to cut back on safety requirements and liability was discussed?
    I keep hearing the WE expect people to take responsibility for their actions, but ………yep missing again

  • coal miner
  • Xen U

    Reminder … oil usually doesn’t sit in vast underground lakes that can be tapped into tens of miles from the volume center. Oil instead is held by sedimentary layers that hold it like a sponge. So … they may have drilled out there because that’s where they thought it was. EPA costing jobs? The EPA and state regulatory agencies have kept toxic waste dumps from becoming neighbors of yours. So Old fud .. time for u to go as senility is setting in. I don’t like big government but the need for ultra strong environmental protection is one thing I back wholeheartedly. As for this article, “What a simplistic and wrong article … ” is a gross understatement. This is trash.

    • 45caliber

      The original regulations were meant for seepage near a well. That has pretty well ended now due to improvements. New wells don’t have that problem – and there are plenty near me as proof. The only problems you might have with a new well is that it might blow out – which is something the oil people work very hard to not happen since it costs them oil they could otherwise sell, equipment, and sometimes even people.

      I’m not saying that drilling a new well is completely safe, but it is FAR safer than it was a hundred years ago. Most of the beliefs of how a well is run comes from the environmentalist propaganda to try to limit drilling. Take the Alaskan pipeline, for instance. They insisted the original wells would destroy the entire area – it didn’t. They insisted that the pipeline itself would harm the caribou – actually they love it since it is warmer near the pipeline. All the arguments they used to try to stop the drilling were false. Now they use the exact same arguments to stop further drilling both in Alaska and in the US. The only real problem I have with the oil wells around me is the idiots who like to mud hog over the pipes.

  • 45caliber

    Does anyone know where this well is in relationship to the line the American government says is our off-shore border? From what I’ve heard, I’m not certain that this well is in our waters even if the oil slick now is. I KNOW it is not in the 12-mile limit the US claims for shipping but I’m not sure where the limit is. My understanding is that the reason the BP is drilling there is that it is outside the US limit and therefore doesn’t need a permit from the US – just like the Chinese well is near Florida. The Chinese actually have a Cuban permit.

    • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

      The well was 45 or so miles out. The US to my I understanding claims a 200 miles limit to it’s shores. I’d learned that in school back inthe 60′s. I always thought it a bit arrogant. Imagine the nerve of canada and Mexico being in our water ;-)

      • Claire

        Duende–You are correct, it is 200 miles. Seems like our administrations have allowed a few discrepancies. I wonder what the payback was?

  • ken
  • Frankie Reinkopfs

    Everyone needs to pray. God Bless this great country our military and our children.

  • carolyn

    You all need to do some deep deep homework about our government and the sheep you all are by being led around by the media and the elite who are doing there level best to destroy life as we know it. Homework…homework….homework. You’ll be shocked!
    Nothing is how it appears. God help us…and I hope he does.

  • JeffH

    Obama skips Oil Rig Memorial for Barbara Boxer Fundraiser
    White House Press Secretary Gibbs was asked why Obama didn’t go to the memorial on May 25th for the Oil Rig workers killed in the explosion.

    He couldn’t give an answer. Watch him below.

    The real reason?

    He was on his way to a fundraiser for Sen. Barbara
    Nice to see Obama’s got his priorities straight.
    http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/592/

    • Claire

      JeffH–Priorities? Obama should have made the oil spill his very FIRST and ONLY priority during this time of crisis. On day one!!Typical politician, always out for themselves and whatever they think will do them the most good. I have news for him. He is done for. This oil spill is his albatross and he will wear it for the rest of his life as far as I am concerned. It is hard for me to understand WHY this president does not see the enormity of this disaster.

      • Claire

        Add this to my last sentence in my post, why don’t some of the other politicians realize the enormity of the situation?

  • jopa

    Ono;Calling Jeffh antisematic for going to KKK sites is like saying I’m crazy for coming here.He should be able to express his inner feelings without being called names.I go to many republican sites and I did’nt fall for their crap.I also believe AIPAC has too much control over our country.All politicians fear them as much as the republicans fear Rush Limbaugh (the oxymoron).Now dont say I hate Jews because two of my favorite people are John Stewart and Bill Mahr.

  • coal miner

    NOSTRADAMUS;FACT OR FICTION

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostradamus · Wikipedia on Bing

  • http://n/a J. Escalante

    May be California work force is considered the least Educated on the Country, I don’t think is because of Immigration levels of the State, just make some counting: How many white or color people been seen working on fields out of the million out-there? do immigrant have access to free education like Orientals, some Talibans or others having? construction line of work, there are million immigrants doing that kind of job because others do not wanted.
    We the Latinos mostly coming to work to try to get our families going and don’t have the opportunity or the time like others to go to Schools and get paid on top.
    Thank you.

  • JeffH

    Obama Administration Rejected Help with Oil Spill Cleanup
    http://www.fortliberty.org/obama-administration-rejected-help-with-oil-spill-cleanup.html

    Three days after the explosion, the Dutch government offered to assist the United States by sending ships equipped with oil-skimming booms. It also provided a plan for creating sand barriers to protect the sensitive marshlands of the Gulf coast.

    According to Geert Visser, Consul General for the Netherlands in Houston “The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks.’”

    Almost seven weeks later, the administration finally relented and agreed to accept partial Dutch assistance with the cleanup. The administration has not accepted Dutch ships, but has allowed the skimming booms to be airlifted from the Netherlands and deployed in the Gulf.

    Part of the problem is the Merchant Marine Act of 1920, also known as the Jones Act. This act is a piece of protectionist legislation which requires that all goods transported by water between U.S. ports be carried in U.S.-flag ships, constructed in the United States, owned by U.S. citizens, and crewed by U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents. The provisions of this act make it illegal for the Dutch to come to our aid.

    The United States Maritime Administration could issue a waiver of the Jones Act limitations, and has done so several times in the past. Doing so, however, would subject the Obama administration to criticism from labor unions who demand protection from global competition

  • Maryanne

    Obama isn’t trying to do anything about it, on Hannidy Friday night he had 4 people begging to let them take their equipment which is not being used right now, and clean the oil up which would be very successful by BP and Obama won’t let them, tonight Huckabee is going to have I think 7 people with the same offer, machines to clean it up, BUT NO BIG SHOT WON’T GIVE THEM PERMISSION. I think this oil spill is just the thing for him to ruin America more so he’s just ignoring it to let it happen, HE’S PATHETIC, Impeach him, somebody!

    • JeffH

      Maryanne…I’m with ya on your comment.

      • Claire

        And I hear BP won’t let any help in. Who is telling the truth?

  • JeffH

    Safety Experts: Salazar lied about what we said. posted at 11:05 pm on June 8, 2010

    The deepwater drilling moratorium is estimated to cost 40,000 jobs and cause 200,000 barrels a day in lost capacity. But why again are we destroying the Gulf coast economy? Obama’s panel of safety experts say that they never supported Obama’s six-month drilling moratorium. In fact, they didn’t even know about it until it was implemented.
    Members of a
    panel of experts brought in to advise the Obama administration on how to address offshore drilling safety after the Deepwater Horizon disaster now say Interior Secretary Ken Salazar falsely implied they supported a six-month drilling moratorium they actually oppose.

    Salazar’s May 27 report to President Barack Obama said a panel of seven experts “peer reviewed” his recommendations, which included a six-month moratorium on all ongoing drilling in waters deeper than 500 feet. That prohibition took effect a few days later, but the angry panel members and some others who contributed to the Salazar report said they had only reviewed an earlier version of the Interior secretary’s report that suggested a six-month moratorium only on new drilling, and then only in waters deeper than 1,000 feet.

    Obama is the king of straw men and false choices. But the choices here are not limited to either unsafe drilling or long term destruction of the Gulf coast economy. The moratorium was a political decision, and a bad one. It should be reversed immediately.
    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/06/08/safety-experts-salazar-lied-about-what-we-said/

  • Bryan Thayer Baker

    No more! The Green/Communist/Socialist movement i.e. Progressive party needs to be destroyed! END OF STORY! WAKE UP and STAND UP or we will be gone!!!!

  • jopa

    Perhaps when they have Palestinian Heritage day at the White House some of these issues could be resolved.Or this this an event for Jews only and why?

  • jopa

    Perhaps when they have a Palestinian Heritage day at the White House some of these questions could be answered or is this an occassion for Jews only?

  • JeffH

    The Obama Energy Tax Game Plan
    In February of this year, after Sen. Scott Brown’s (R-MA) victory put Obamacare on life support, health insurer Anthem Blue Cross announced a 39% rate hike for its individual market subscribers in California. Despite the fact that the President’s health care plan will only drive health insurance rates higher, the White House seized on this story to revive the government takeover of the health insurance industry. Two months later when the President’s financial regulation plan was stalled in the Senate, the Securities and Exchange Commission charged Goldman Sachs with fraud in marketing some of its subprime mortgage investment products. Again, the White House pounced on this news to get its preferred legislation through Congress.

    Now that the Deepwater Horizon oil spill has turned into an environmental disaster, the White House is again trying to turn public anger at one corporation into massive government intervention of an entire sector of the economy. In an email to his leftist Organizing for America activists, President Barack Obama previewed his Oval Office address tonight calling on Congress “to move forward on legislation to promote a new economy powered by green jobs, combat climate change, and end our dependence on foreign oil.”

    Politico reports that Joel Benenson, a pollster for the Democratic National Committee and Obama’s presidential campaign recommended “messaging architecture” includes the slogan “Making BP Pay Isn’t Enough” and adds: “frame the opposition” as “Big Oil and corporate polluters who have blocked energy reform for decades” and “politicians protecting the special interests that fund their campaigns.”

    The irony here is that BP has been a special interest pushing for carbon pricing on Capitol Hill for years now. It was a founding member of the U.S. Climate Action Partnership, a corporatist entity that exists to enact “fair climate change.” And of course by “fair” they mean whatever subsidies and mandates they can extract from the federal government to best protect their bottom line. So this February, BP actually pulled out of USCAP because they thought: “We can be more effective if we show up in the discussion as BP.” As The Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney reports: “They made out particularly well in the House’s climate bill, while natural gas producers suffered.”
    As far as the strategy in the Senate goes, White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel told The New York Times last week that Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) would use elements of the Kerry-Lieberman American Power Act, the Cantwell-Collins carbon pricing plan, and the Bingaman renewable energy standard bill.

    The left knows that the American public has been educated about the economic harms of cap-and-trade, and they are hoping they can use the BP oil spill to pass renewable energy standards (RES) before the public wises up. Don’t be fooled: an RES is just another way for the enviro-left to inflict an economy-killing energy tax on the American public.

    READ THE WHOLE STORY: http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/3973/The-Obama-Energy-Tax-Game-Plan

  • jr bob

    by the way for those who think that that waste from nuclear is dangerous just think that it was on the ground everywhere in the united states as uranium and it is one of the most plentifull things on the earth. when it is converted into nuclear power they repross it and bind it with other reprossed uranium and reused again. when you have infintessimale quanities the could be laid out in the open and would be no more dangerous than the uranium that was out on the ground before we prossesed it. if you put it in a drum and bury it for a hundred years it would be even less radioactive than the ground in the deserts in america..

  • jr bob

    if you really read the history of israel you would find out that the majority of the original 1947 palistine question land was purchased by the jewish people. that land was conquered by the british in world war 1 and the balfor declaration was made to the jews that they would get some of the land. from 1918 to 1947the jewish people were buying land in palistine. the un was created in 1945 and the british were trying to renig on their promise. but since it was theirs they tried to claim the land they purchased and were granted. they just wanted that small piece. when they tried to take what was theirs they were attacked by the arabs and palistinians. they ended up with more than the bought but they also offered the palistinians a shared land. many palistianians accepted the offer and are living peacefully with the Isrealies, including in ruling the nation of isreal. isreal became larger because of two wars to try to annahilate isreal. isreal is very much larger than the original country but it is because they won the land in 2 wars. If you cant accept that than you must hate jews. i hate no one except people who try to annahate innocent people and murderers. when a billion people who own millions times the land of of isreal cant stand to let theese people live,and hate them so much than i have to hate haters.

  • http://none Jeff

    I agree with the statement Cole made at the very top. Maybe Mr. Myers could have called some of his connections in the oil industry and made some suggestions as to how Obama was to stop the spill considering that the industry kept low-balling us all on how much was leaking and reassuring that they were going to try everything in their power to bring this under control. Obviously people like Mr Myers have learned nothing from this but to blame the people who want to protect the environment because heaven forbid anyone try to interfere with their right to make money at the expense of hundreds of species and millions of people’s livelihood. No doubt the same oil companies would lie about how the potential for a major spill in the arctic was nil and how it would be easy to clean up. Can you blame people for not trusting your friends in oil/connections any more. America should have switched to alternative energies 30 years ago and would have been a world leader but your “friends” did everything they could to stop it. They lied about global warming and bought up technologies like the electic car and spent millions to make climate change look like a conspiracy. GM could have been a world leader in electric cars and your friends lobbied hard to prevent this. Now you want us to believe it is the green’s fault and Obama is to blame? Honestly, you must get paid by the oil companies to write your articles. People like you are responsible for the oil spill because you advocate for your friends in the oil industry and against how “big government” regulates corporations too much. You want your friends to drill anywhere they want and to hell with the environment with very little oversight. Well you see what happens when people like you are allowed to advocate and lobby government with your profit oriented facts and agenda. I am not surprised you are pointing the finger at Obama and greens because you don’t want people to figure out the real cause of this catastrophe is the greed of you and your friends.

  • http://none Jeff

    I’m having trouble posting. Was it something I said?

  • http://aol ted houser

    John Myers:

    Your idiocy, combined with that of your followers, knows no bounds. Perhaps you are in sympathy with Rep. Joe Barton…who apologized to BP for the US wanting them to be responsible to the American victims of the gulf oil spill? If not, what is your position on this matter? Your silence is deafening!

    You and your ilk spew your posionous recriminations against the Dems and President Obama, yet take no umbrage with the Bush administration who sank this country into a bottomless pit of financial catastrophe! Bush spent over a trillion dollars attacking a country, (Iraq) who had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11. The Bush lies about WAMD in Iraq, plus his treasonous outing of a CIA agent, (Valerie Plame) will stand in infamy against our nation…yet nothing is heard from you on these matters. Conservative Republicans and their non-stop lies do a great disservice to this county. When will you write something, or do something to help our coutry? Probably never…

  • Jesse

    I was rig supt on an offshore rig for several years. If I had have done what BP did, which was displacing the 16 Lb.mud out of the top 5000Ft.of the hole just after setting the first cement plug as they were getting ready to move off of the hole,with sea water, lowering the hydrostatic pressure at bottom hole by 2920 Psi. , I would have expected to be shot or worse. They should have pressure tested the plug after giving it time to set up, and normally would have set a couple more plugs and tested them. Any of my drillers and a lot of the roughnecks would have known better than that. If they had not done that, they may have gotton by with some of the problems that they were having with the blowout preventers.It looks like a criminal act to me

  • Martha

    Friends, I FEAR the constant spill of illegal alien invaders into our country is harming our beloved country FAR MORE than the BP spill!! The BP spill will actually be ended.
    But the unending spill of foreign invaders sneaking into our country to rape, rob, kill, transport drugs for drug cartels and live off of American taxpayers is a fatal dagger that will ‘kill the goose that lays the golden eggs’.
    If they only came into America to honestly work and find better lives, they would not hesitate to first get in line and legally apply like the millions upon millions of people ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT WANT TO GET INTO AMERICA.
    We must all implore our Divine Creator for help. The illegal alien spill into America is a far greater national disaster than the oil spill–let’s get that straight news media and POTUS!!

  • http://bluesapphire48.wordpress.com/ Hajja Romi Elnagar

    Sir, With all due respect, you are quite mistaken.

    Barack Obama was the candidate of the Democratic Party.

    The Green Party nominee was Cynthia McKinney.

    Mr. Obama has consistently served the interests of corporate America. He is no Green.

    Romi W. Elnagar
    Member of the Green Party of the United States since 2005.

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