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It’s Not Debatable

October 18, 2012 by  

It’s Not Debatable
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Moderator Candy Crowley seemed to side with the President in the debate Tuesday.

I wasn’t expecting much Tuesday night. I knew President Barack Obama would be declared a winner by the effete elite if he managed to show up and not vomit on himself.

Since Vice President Joe Biden’s smirkfest last week against Congressman Paul Ryan— which looked very much like a cry for either help or a Thorazine prescription— Obama has been granted amnesty for everything from faked jobs reports to wildly divergent tales about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi. The Democrats have backed him through the endless stream of scandals, assaults on individual freedoms and even murders which have defined Obama’s tenure. At this point, I think he could stomp on a box of puppies and/or murder a Border Agent (heaven forbid!) and the Democrats would still snuggle up with him in the morning.

I would be remiss if I failed to note that these guys went after each other like fat guys fighting over the last piece of real cake at a vegan birthday party. Any voters who place “likeability” at or near the top of their list of criteria about which they give a damn will probably be writing in their own names come election day.

Both candidates behaved like slightly less-creepy versions of Biden from last week; although Obama appears to have missed a few days of rehearsal. If American politics had a live soundtrack, this debate would have been accompanied by one of those sad trombones they use in cartoons.

I originally intended to present a condensed version of the running commentary I maintained throughout the night’s festivities; but then something occurred to me: None of it really matters.

Obama and Romney are in a true horse race; and though Romney has nosed ahead in recent days, the question is still very much in doubt. As evidenced by the desperate enthusiasm feigned by liberal mouthpieces following Obama’s even-weirder-than-Biden’s-performance, Obama can’t really lose these dog-and-pony shows we call debates.

He double-, triple- and even quadruple-talked virtually every answer he proffered; most notably his tortured and twisted response to the aftermath of the Benghazi nightmare; and the Democrats cheered him for it. His answers on gas prices and so-called “green” energy boondoggles not only failed to meet the stink test (he claimed they would lower gas prices; when might those lower prices be kicking in?), they didn’t really even make sense. He presented himself as a friend of the coal industry; which might actually have been the biggest howler of the night; although none of his supporters even noticed, much less cared.

Romney and Obama will go toe-to-toe once more next Monday night. Obama will either go back to the cowering passivity which marked his disastrous debut debate, or he’ll come out swinging— and missing— wildly like he did in Hempstead, N.Y. Either way, his supporters will cheer his rudeness, ignore his mendacity and shriek at the opposition; just like every other day during the long national nightmare which has been his Presidency.

The debate ended with a member of the audience asking both candidates to describe their best features; essentially: “So, tell us why you’re awesome.” The question was silly; but Obama then made it sillier by using the time to attack Romney… again.

Look, people; Obama’s effort to reshape himself as an assertive executive has produced a twitchy, unlikeable liar with all the warmth of a teenaged prom queen. Perhaps, like Biden, Obama just doesn’t take to confrontation particularly well— although he doesn’t seem to struggle with behaving like an unruly child who feels slighted when mommy pays too much attention to the other kids. While Romney clearly stuck to his strategy of keeping Obama on defense; Obama— despite not-inconsequential help from hapless “moderator” Candy Crowley— shifted away from the cool, detached demeanor which he has cultivated throughout his term and toward a short-tempered, snide and juvenile attitude which might work on MSNBC but has no place in the Oval Office.

I understand that the true believers of the left will continue their blind support of Obama. But it strikes me that the most important lesson the Democrats SHOULD have learned during Obama’s latest public face plant missed them completely: The person for whom they should be rooting wasn’t even in the country during the debate; she was down in Peru.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • phideaux

    Another home run Ben.

    • eddie47d

      Oh Really! Hillary was down in Peru doing what she is paid to do. Build relationships throughout the world. To bring our allies back in the fold which were lost during the last term. Not every measure has been a slam dunk but hardly from a lack of trying.

      • s c

        Right on, komrade ‘e.’ Billary ran to Peru so she could temporarily escape being made Obummer’s scapegoat [take one for the Bummer, Billary] . Her remark that it’s “her” responsibility to “take care of” State Department employees makes a much sense as a Poser-in-Chief who takes responsibility for seeing to it that people in the military are safe WHEN HE THINKS IT”S IMPORTANT, you yutz.
        Even Truman would puke and walk away in utter disgust if he knew that Amerika would be cursed with someone like Obummer. At least Truman WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS of being a real Commander-in-Chief. Obummer looks at it as something that has to be endured when he’s FORCED to do so. I wouldn’t trust him to lock the front door after putting out the family cat at night (it’s beneath his ‘dignity’ – WHAT dignity?].
        Fake Messiah. False ‘God.’ Braindead followers. You scum are truly CONSISTENT.

      • Dale left coast

        eddie . . . Hillary is in Peru getting the sword she feel on removed . . .

      • eddie47d

        I see SC has only sulfur gas flowing from her dry well. You are still unimpressive and childish in everything you say. More worthless conjecture (Truman?) You stretched that one as wide as yor gas bag.

      • JeffH

        eddie, in your fantasy world nothing you see is true…speaking of desperate enthusiasm feigned by a liberal mouthpiece.

        There’s only one reason why you make great efforts to defend these indefensible “socialist/progressives”…you be one! LMAO and PMP!

        I hope you don’t take offense of my using your picture for my avatar. ROFLMAO! :)

      • eddie47d

        Along comes Jeff trying to defend the dispicable indefensible! Find one more and you can form the new Three Stooges.

      • SJJolly

        Scenario: (1) Romney and Ryan win in November. (2) Tea Party Republicans proceed to run amuck. (3) Hillary Cinton wins the White House, in a landslide of public disgust with Republican policies.

    • wandamurline

      Hiliary can stay down in Peru as far as I am concerned. What I would like to know is what she is getting for falling on the sword for Obamie….you can bet your sweet @zz that Slick Willie would not have her take the blame unless there was something in the deal for her. She is always up Obamie behind so you and I and everyone who has any grey brain matter left in this country, that the video was a scapegoat….they probably had every White House Aid looking on the internet to find something to blame the attack on….they found it. The video is just another distraction and Romney should have asked Obama why he and Hiliary spent 70million tax dollars for ads in the Middle East telling them that America and the government of America was not responsible for the video….a video that no one had seen until they put it out worldwide. I feel kinda sorry for the buffoon who made the film….he is in more trouble than Hiliary and Hussein.

      • s c

        wandamurline, please try to explain to komrade ‘e’ about HST [Truman] and his long famous statement about THE BUCK STOPS HERE. Apparently, neither Obummer nor komrade ‘e’ are familiar with that statement. A utopian like Obummer would probably try to modify or re-write Truman’s famous words and turn it into something like ‘I deserve your bucks.’
        Komrade ‘e’ especially needs a lot of work. He’s consistently D U H. In a utopian’s world, that’s probably seen as a virtue. In the real world, it’s nothing but politically-induced STUPIDITY.

      • eddie47d

        Obama said he takes full responsibility and has never said anything different. Grow a pair SC and accept some real facts not your angry and clownish comments.

    • Roger Buggle

      Your mirror describes you exactly. Nothing to do with obesity but tonnage is most definitely on the very near horizon for you Everything you manage do is being obnoxious! You might as well have been like the one who calls herself Moochella and clapped when you knew it was against the rules.

      The main problem with democrats are the last four letters of the word itself. To follow up from the dems. convention, taking God from your platform means you don’t adhere to the Constitution and the basis in which this nation was founded.

      When you brazenly disregard who America is and will continue to be your not just another nasty liberal your a troublemaker. Your a vial person looking for a bed instead of work ie. occupy, selfish, denigrating, lazy, food stamps, and do for me instead of doing for yourself.

      What you forget is (like it or not) everyone dies. Like it or not you DO have a soul. What you fail to realize, but do understand that you’ll have to answer for what you’ve done in the time allotted for you here on earth. God allowed you to be here you didn’t mysteriously derive from a mushroom.

      Good luck with what you have to face when you walk through the light. Crowley, I wouldn’t want to be you. Was it worth getting on your knees for Obama!

  • http://none Claire

    “And I understand the true believers of the right will continue their blind support of Romney.” Double standard issue.

    • http://mozilla robert e. lee

      you are too funny;; just shows how divided we are ;; you are the epitome of a obama kool aid drinker;; we are in a communist transformation and you like ;; what a great American you are;;

      • msbets

        THAT’S A TWO WAY STREET, YA MINDLESS MORON COMMIE/MARXIST, DO YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, OR DO YOU NOT THINK THIS IS WHAT THE MUTT IS GOING TO DO, WITH OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, OR DON’T YOU GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEM!!!???? IT’S THE PATRIOTS OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WILL SAVE YOUR @$$ FROM GUTTER RATS LIKE THIS MONGREL

      • Karolyn

        You obviously don’t know Claire, robert. Also, a racist like you has no room to talk about anybody. (As I observed in your comments yesterday).

      • mark

        Thanks, msbets, for your brilliant analysis on these issues. But then again you are not that much dimmer than Ben Crystal who actually gets his own column here several times a week. Maybe PLD will make make you their new weekly contributor? You will have lots of support for your views among the posters here.

      • http://speedle speedle

        Msbets, you need to clean out your crack pipe pal. You are associating Romney with “Communism”???? and Obama as some kind of defender of the Constitution? Do you have any distant clue about what this election is really about? Perhaps you could explain to all of us your definition of Communism/Totalitarianism, and perhaps contrast it with its opposite philosophy. Then you can compare the candidates and see which fits which.

      • Paul Wells

        She’d have to put down her megaphone first. Quit shouting, MSBETTS, WE can hear your liberal drivel just fine!

      • JeffH

        Karolyn, 100% right you are!

      • http://none Claire

        robert e. lee– Your words don’t bother me, especially since I realize you can’t help it—it must be terrible to have a warped mind like yours.

    • TIME

      Dear Claire,

      There is not any form of ~ R v D or L v R ~ its all a 100% illusion, need proof, well this video on you tube is a very good start: { This is the Truth 2012 } just google it, do it or not its your call.

      But for Gods sake ~ all of you have to get it in your heads, ~ what you think is real is not.
      They tell you what poison they are going to give you, thats is infact true, but most of you can’t seem to get that in to your heads as many of you are still stuck on the worthless candy outer shell ~ and can’t seem to see the core

      Its all a fariy tail, ~ nothing you think you know is true ~ and nothing you hear on ~ or ~ from the mass media is really what you think it means, again your stuck on the worthless outer candy shell.

      > Do the digging < and what you will find is, that what is within the above noted video you can prove to yourself, not just one or two points ~~ but all of it.
      Thus as in science if one can reproduce the same results, its a "PROOF POSITIVE" as in the TRUTH.

      Peace and Love

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Read “Animal Farm” by George Orwell (pen name), and maybe just maybe your infatuation with communism will disappear, unless of course you are planning on being one of the ruling elite. Or, you can read “Anthem” and “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayan Rand. I’m sorry, you say you can’t read.

      • DORIS A. BROWN

        real cute

      • Dulceb

        Can’t read, or won’t for fear of the truth? The truth is sure unpopular these days. Maybe everyone believed Jack Nicholson in the movie, when he said, “you can’t handle the truth.” So, the GP stuck their heads in the sand and refused to believe anything real.
        Of course, if anyone was counting on our dumbed down public school systems for reading, well, that is like counting on Obama not to play golf and take vacations.

      • TIME

        Dear CaP,

        Whom are you ~ trying to communicate with?

        Thank You so much, for your anticipated response……..

        Peace and Love

    • Karolyn

      Exactly my thought when I read that, Claire.

    • DORIS A. BROWN

      Yes, just as the ltrue belivers on the eft will follow the “empty chair.” Today, both sides can debate these issues. What will happen by 2016″?

      • mark

        No this is the last U.S. election, Doris. There will be no vote in 2016. Haven’t you heard? The minute he wins reelection on the morning of November 7, 2012 Obama is abolishing the Constitution and private property, declaring martial law, shutting down all newspapers, webs, and t.v. stations. He will ban all poltical parties, cancel all future elections, shut down every church and synagogue (not mosques of course) and put all the population in FEMA camps except for the seniors who will all go before machinegun death panels.

        Haven’t you been following the paranoid rants from the regular posters on this site? The day after Obama is elected, since he no longer will have to face an electorate again, life as we know it in America is over. America ends the very next day. Or on January 20, 2013 after his second swearing-in. And if you don’t swallow this loony tune fantasy, try another. The Martians will storm Planet Earth. Or a giant asteroid will hit us and not only kill every man, woman, and child on earth but even worse, destroy everyone’s handguns. You can get this all on the News of the World. Or if that tabloid isn’t hysterical enough for you, just keep reading Personal Liberty Digest. Few can top it for ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) – or as psychiatrists have called it for decades – acute paranoiac psychosis.

      • eddie47d

        I’m still waiting for true Conservatives to dissect all these corny and outlandish conspiracy theories that float around on a daily basis. They get printed and are accepted as gospel. Almost to a T few if any refute any false information.

      • Teresa

        “Conspiracy Theorist” a derogatory term used for critical thinkers.

    • Little John

      CLAIRE,….. obama standard are not the standards of the United States of America…… our standards are so high above his that, well you know where I am going with his standards…. he has a total disreguard for our Constitution and our way of life in the United States of America….. he lies to us every day that he is president…… he wants everyone to be transparent except for him…. all of his records are sealed… now why is that….. his school record will show that he used foreign aid to go to college, which will show that he is not a citizen of the United States of America, he has a ssn# that was issued in Conn., he never lived in Conn. how did he get a Conn. SSN#…… his father listed on his birth certificate is not and has never been a United States citizen, which by the way makes him inellegable to be president of the United States of America…. by law both parents must be United States citizens.. bet you did not know that one did ya…… the Dem party knows this, they were hoping the people would not notice…. they noticed, but the dems run the senate and they would never impeach obama… he owns them…… everything obama has done while in office has one goal… and that is to destroy the United States of America through one of the most powerful things,,,,, financees……. destroy the united states of america through debt..and taxation…. tax the people to pay for the debt which he has brought upon us,,,, put us so far in the red that we will not have the means to protect ourselves from an invading force…… his next step if reelected is to disarm the United States of America(check the web, 1961 Disarming the United States of America, read that one it will scare the hell out of ya) through the United Nations… he is trying very hard to give up our sovereignty as a nation to the United Nations…. dont believe me…. check out the treaties that are on the table in the united nations… small arms treaty…… treaty of the Seas……. all of these gives up our sovereignty as a nation…. obama is trying very hard to make us a third world country…. and he is almost there…… he has stopped our oil drilling,,,,,,, cut off coal…….. and our natural gas production…….. I could go on and on, but it is like talking to the wall sometimes, but check out the few things I have said here, then think about them, and you will come to understand, I pray anyway, sorry was not politically correct should not have said pray…. get the drift..

      • carrottop

        Little John,
        Everything you say here is true, yet, people like Karolyn, Claire, Eddie47 and a few others will never go the extra mile to confirm thse facts. Their own denial of the possibility that they could be wrong is stronger than their desire to learn or confirm the truth. I’d gladly move over to their side if they can explain those things you outlined about Obama. Why are all of his records from Occidanta and Harvard sealed? Why does he have a Connecticut Social Security card number although he never lived there and why the descrepancies on his Selective Service card which has been condemned as a fradulent document just like his birth certificate that was released by the White House? Why does he appoint Czars and Muslims to government positions and why does he not observe our national day of prayer but observes Muslim events to be staged at the White House? Why is he buddy, buddy with known terrorists and why does he bow to a Saudi King? I’ll tell you why. It’s because he is not one of us. He is NOT an American. He is a bought and paid for puppet that has been hired to complete the most haneous crime in history, the ruin of the greatest nation to have ever existed. This was the goal of Hitler and has been the goal of many other tyrants in history and now it is coming to fruition through the infiltration of our two party system and the two prevalent parties, Republicans and Democrats. In case you haven’t noticed, in the past 40 years, we have changed the bus driver occasionally but we have not changed the direction of the bus. In this last election, we not only didn’t change the direction, we hit the accelerator. How can anyone support a man who has DOUBLED the national debt by 5.6 trillon dollars during his four year term? How can anyone stand beside a man who has allowed fuel prices to go from $1.87 per gallon to over $4.00 per gallon in less than four years? How totally disconnected from our reality can someone be to actually want this to continue?

      • eddie47d

        Real cute Carrottop! Mixing fact with fantasy again? How many times does it have to be said that oil prices are determined on the world markets not by the President of the US? Most pricing is also controlled by Speculators on Wall Street who move costs around like a personal monopoly game. Go have a chat with them if you don’t like high gas prices. I happen to live in a state that has thousands of natural gas wells and most came on line during the Obama administration as well as those in Pennsylvania,Ohio and New York. So look it up! Domestic oil production is also up under Obama so lets deal with facts not fiction. Car mileage is also up and going up higher to save the USA precious oil consumption. That would be inconceivable under a Republican administration. The USA needs a wide variety of energy resources and that is exactly what Obama is shooting for. There are Muslim Americans in government because they are Americans. Their are Catholics and Mormons in government too even though not everyone like ….Catholics and Mormons. You are letting your prejudices run away from you in that attempt to disbar certain Americans from participating in our Republic. Why are you in such denial about that? Its so childish to keep bringing up Obama bowing down to the Saudi King. Its called protocol and no different than G Bush holding hands with the same person and then kissing each other. Those acts are immaterial and the only thing important is what are the Saudis getting from us and what are we getting from them. I don’t know of any President who pleases everyone and I don’t know of any President that doesn’t make mistakes. But thanks for asking!

      • mark

        Thanks, Little John, for putting all the Cuckoo Right’s lies about Obama in one neat little package. I will copy and paste them to my notes, so I have all these lunatic falsehoods concerning Obama as AntiChrist in one place for handy reference

      • carrottop

        Eddie 47,
        More of your stupidity as I figured. NO, oil prices are dictated by supply and demand. JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PRODUCT IN THE WORLD. Does it make any sense that it is cheaper to buy oil from the Saudis or from Venezuela and pay to ship it here or does it make better sense that it would cost less to pull it out the ground here and pipe it to our refineries at home? You try to make people believe that the cost to get the oil from a foreign country to our refineries is not a factor in the price of the final product. Look at the cost per barrel the Saudis are charging us. Do you actuall believe we are saving money there over what it cost to pull it out of the ground here. Get real eddie. You just think you know something about the market and oil pricing and you really don’t.

      • Karolyn

        carrot – There are answers to at least some of your statements, but I really don’t feel like looking them all up for you.

      • eddie47d

        Oil drilled in the USA also goes on the world market. You’ll have to ask your crony capitalist buddies why they set it up that way.

      • Florence

        Little John: I agree w/you. No one is paying attention to the mess that BO is making in this country. How about the UN would make it illegal for us to go to war w/o their approval; regulate the internet, etc BO is trying to dismantle this country by giving control to the WTO, UN etc.

    • TML

      I’ll chime in agreement to that as well. Republicans saying the left will blindly support Obama, as they hold they nose and point the other way at every position or question asked of Romney, is the nothing short of the Pot calling the Kettle black.

      • vazirmukhtar

        May I, then, count you among those who will write in “None of the Above”?

      • TML

        If I was going to do that, I wouldn’t bother voting at all, but note; voting for someone other than the two corporate-backed beauty queens doesn’t constitute voting “none of the above”.

    • Gary L

      Hey Easy,
      It seems you are obsessed with this diaper thing. Just saying…

    • Vazir Mukhtar

      Claire, that road runs two ways. Irrespective of President Obama’s and Vice President Biden’s performances, there are left-wingers who would support those two even if that meant following Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee down the circles of Dante’s hell.

      For me, the debates are minimally useful. They reveal more about how each candidate acts under pressure and his tactics for making his opponent look uninformed, incapable, irresponsible, or almost any other negative that comes to mind, gender and ethnic group excepted.

      Both Mr Obama and Mr Romney have misspoken. But for many people any correction will pass unnoticed. Once said, a remark is like a bell: its peal cannot be unrung.

      If you’ve not seen and thought about it, I urge you to watch the advert by the Hungarian immigrant whose paid for the advert himself. Consider what he’s saying.

    • uvuvuv

      claire, it’s not blind support, you ignorant pup. we have doubts about romney, which was all brought out in the primaries, remember those? you might also recall that the dems did not have primaries where obama’s suitability for a second term would be scrutinized, and so how democratic are the democrats really? where do you think we are, venezuela?

      • eddie47d

        LOL! UVUVUV! Oh yes we hear you bringing up all the terrible things said about Romney during the Republican Debates and from your fellow Republicans. Romney was exposed as were the other candidates yet those facts are now hidden. Maybe Obama should dig back and use them against Romney. Even you only want facts that bolster your opinion and no way are you searching for the real truth. Calling Claire ignorant makes you rather ignorant.

      • http://none Claire

        uvuvuv–Ignorant pup? I am no doubt older than you. However, I would rather be compared to an ignorant pup than be compared to some people that think they are righteous human beings. Dogs have more common sense, especially my dogs. If you are looking for trouble you came to the “right” place. I fight back and I can get just as hateful as you or anyone else that chooses to attack me–verbally or physically. I stand by what I post. No backpeddling for me. Ever.

  • rendarsmith

    Hillary is just as big of an incompetent farce as Obama.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      Hillary is a pathetic liar just like her Sugar daddy obama…The clintons need to go away….Civil war is coming to a town near you soon..

      • eddie47d

        Brought to you by Bob Peters and the rest of the conspiracy trolls. Will you be Sgt Schultz leading the charge!

    • http://yahoo bobdavidson

      47d ,who do you follow the Rev. Wright , ( I hate Whitey) and who by the way is B.O.s mentor?

  • DORIS A. BROWN

    If I live to be 100, I cannot figure out why Obama gets away with everything he does and the media loves him so, I guess because he is our first black President, they are afraid of him. He even accused the Clintons of being racist and the term for Bill Clinton at the time was “the first black Oresident”. If I had been Hillary, I would have never acknowledged and took the blame fior Obama for the Libya
    situation. Obama is akways telling us he is “The Commander In Chief” – so the buck stops there.

    • GALT

      The “Buck” needs to be adjusted for inflation…….

      • Gary L

        I think I can here the printing presses buzzing from here. We are taking it QUANTITATIVELYup the tailpipe.

    • Dulceb

      Hillary took credit for the Libya scandal. The BIG question is:
      What did she get in return?
      She is no do-gooder that is for God and Country. She cut a deal somewhere to her advantage. Maybe she is a shoe in with the 2016 Dem nomination. You can bet the farm she did not leave empty handed.
      The powers that be had better watch their back if they threatened her or hers like they did with the “birther” news. That one does not get mad, she gets even.

    • John Woodbury

      You are wrong Doris, for Oblama it stops at Bush.

    • Nobody’s Fool

      Poor oBlamer. First he deals with Hillary: “Hill, you take the hit for this debacle, and after the election I will have more flexibility and will get rid of the gaffe machine, Daffy Duck, and will appoint you as my new VP.” So Hillary goes out and bites the bullet, and her approval rating takes a jump because of perceived “integrity”. oBlamer sees that her approval rating jumped, so debate night, he magnanimously takes responsibility himself. Alas, everyone knows he is lying, since he has not taken responsibility for one single thing in his entire career. Seems like he just can’t escape his pitiful record. But the kool-aid drinkers continue to slobber and drool over him, i.e., Karolyn, Claire, and other commies who lurk on this website.

      • eddie47d

        Your everybody’s Fascist Fool Mr Nobody! Its called politics and both sides do it so take a deep breath clear you mind and admit it. Didn’t Ollie North take the fall for Reagan? Well not really but you get the drift!

      • http://none Claire

        Nobody’s Fool—Communist??? Too damn bad your name doesn’t fit you. Seems to me you are a fool for calling me a communist. You know what you can do with your comments….

    • Paul Wells

      Obama, even though he is the commander in chief, and ultimately responsible for whatever happens at agencies over which he presides, will NEVER man up and take any responsibility for Benghazi. He still was talking about that stupid youtube video a week later…until he finally had to accept that the American Public were not buying it. Then they had to decide who would take the fall. Now, for certain, Hillary probably does deserve the lion’s share of the blame, but Obummer deserves an even bigger share, but because of the delusional masses that fawn over him, he’ll never take that fall, nor will he be required to. I said it before, he is the original “Teflon Don”. Vito Corleone would be most impressed!

      • eddie47d

        Don’t be a johnny come lately Paul he has already taken responsibility for it and even after Hillary spoke of it.

  • Warrior

    I’m still checking under all the seat cushions for all those tax cuts I’m suppose to be receiving. Damn those things hide themselves well!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      The sad joke is that the cruelest tax of all, is the devaluation of the dollar, which is lowering EVERYONE’S standard of living, except the ruling elite crony capitalists.

      • Leftnot

        And that is happening on the Socialists Watch. How is it you blame capitalism for what the Fed is currently doing?

      • Paul Wells

        I didn’t take it that CAP was, I believe it was a general statement about how the Fed is manipulating money these days with their QE 1 ~ 3 that is slowly eroding the worth of the dollar to the point we may have to take wheelbarrows of money to the grocery store…you know, kind of like pre-war Germany was back in the 20′s ~ 30′s.

  • Tom Cook

    The only really interesting thing about this debate is the question: does the morbidly obese Candy Crowley, a.k.a. “Beastwoman”, have six or seven chins.

    • Karolyn

      And I’m sure you and your woman are both perfect, Tom. The sign of an unattractive person is their criticism of the looks of others. (and by unattractive I’m not only referring to looks)

      • http://yahoo bob peters

        Tom,you shouldn’t talk about her just because she looks like a hungarian beet farmers wife..

      • http://www.gov-truth.com Ed

        Do you realise how you epitomize the extreme left (Communism) in your reply here? Ignorant though it may be, this individual made a statement about something which concerns him and rather than comment on the subject, you attack him. I’m not saying you are wrong, but just think about the form of your reaction. It’s the way the uber-left reacts to any criticism and the way a child would react . . . you know; your mother wears army boots!

      • Karolyn

        Ed- You’re obviously new here and haven’t seen some of the despicable comments by the right. If you saw what “robert e. lee” had to say on an inssue here yesterday you would see that my assertion is spot on. Robert has a “concern” about somebody’s looks? Come on! HE started it by making a non-issue comment.

      • vazirmukhtar

        @bob peters:

        There are beet farmers in other countries. Why did you choose the Hungarians? Why make an ethnic reference at all?

      • eddie47d

        I’d love to be around when Bob and Tom talk to their relatives like that. That would be a smack down I’d pay to see. The Cable Guy they are not for there is humor and then there is insults. Most normal folks can tell the difference.

    • Steve E

      Conservative women are a lot better looking than liberal woman any day.

    • Gary L

      Tom,
      She is certainly a liberal hack but your comments on her appearence say alot about your character or the lack there of. The name calling is kind of juvenile don’t you think?

  • Little John

    The truth of the matter is Obama is a puppet for the highest bidder….. he talks good, but the at record of his…… the record holds the key.,….. he has been giving our tax money to other countries to drill for oil…… who gets that oil….. not us…. it goes to China…. is everyone sleeping through all of this…. his green energy….. again going to others,,, not the USA,,,, oh and they supported him with donations on his election bid last time…. oh they went bankrupt…. where did the millions go of our tax dollars on those vinturers….. in someone elses pocket…… the muslim brotherhood…… our tax dollars went to help the brotherhood take over egypt…….. our tax dollars went to the most anti american most terriorst org in the world (Muslim Brotherhood) go to their web site, learn what they stand for right up front….. and our, yes our tax dollars are going to them………… and the debate Tuesday night…….. Mitt kicked obama and knocked him out…… and Cindy needs to be fired……… she debated Mitt, she did not even have her facts right…. Mitt got it right on both ends……. obama is killing this country and he needs to go….. we do not need a president who is governing this great nation with executive order after executive order bypassing our Congress and Senate when the laws coming up do not pass, and then he just writes an executive order making them law anyway……TYRANT,,,,, WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT LIVE IN TYRANNY….. HIT THE ROAD OBAMA………………

    • randall

      both canidates are supported by goldmen sachs, that is who will win the election. are govt has been taken over by corporations, neither canidate talks about what would get our country back. if we borrow 40cents of every dollar we spend, we would have to cut govt by 50% to get out of debt. since half of the country is on food stamps and half are getting ready to retire in the next ten years, our economic debt based economy is going to collapse and their is nothing we can do to stop it. YOU need to be the change. grow your own food, get out of debt, learn what edible wild plants (weeds) grow around you, it is time to change the world.

      • Gary L

        You are right Randall. We have the best…make that the biggest government MONET CAN BUY. LOL

      • Gary L

        OOPS. MONEY

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      Right on brother!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/eugene.sevene Eugene Sevene-THE PATRIOT

    I have said for more than ten years that the American people get more stupid every day. Any person with any common sense at all should be ale to see what Obama is, bad for this country and the people. I told some the other day to google executive orders and they told me they didn’t need to, that they trusted Obama. This proves my point.

    • Little John

      Right on Eugene, obama is a Tyrant, running this nation with executive order, making law with executive order, bypassing the Congress and the Senate when ever a law is brought to the floor and does not pass, obama just writes and executive order and makes it law anyway….. this is not the way this country is run, we have checks and balances with our branches of government….. and noone is doing anything within the government to stop this…. we are in big trouble.,…… obama has got to go,,, hit the road obama…… the ones in control…. did not take their oath of officer very serious…. to them it was only words that did not mean a thing….. they take the same oath that the military takes, police officers take,,,, to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America……. this they are not doing the proof is in the laws they write and pass….. they are for big government, this administration is killing the United States of America, the government is hurting us… over taxation…. putting us in more debt…. taking away our way of life,,,, well now, that is one thing he said that he will do,,,, fundamental change the way we live….. yea he is doing that…., but you know… it is time for obama to vacate the White House and hit the road jack…. we will not live in Tryanny and we will not be governed by a Tyrant…… and making laws with executive order is being a Tyrant…..

    • Steve E

      Tyrants would not be tyrants if they couldn’t fool a lot of people. Tyrants are a product of selfish, stupid, non self reliant people. This is what America is becoming.

      • Paul Wells

        Don’t forget uninformed….it couldn’t happen without an electorate that is more concerned about who is winning DWTS, then who is giving away our freedoms. We have reached a low, low point in our country, and danger is imminent, but the emperor still fiddles….just sayin’.

    • Dona McDonald

      Obama has learned that if people are dependent on the government they will vote for
      him, that is why he has so many people dependent on it…… Thats the only thing I can
      figure out why anyone would prefer Obama over Romney. Romney is a good man
      and has proven himself to be a great leader and knows how to run things…….
      Wake up America…. vote for Romney…… I already have……….

  • Dulceb

    I refuse to watch the debates for two reasons:

    1) It is not a debate if you interrupt your opponent. If you were to be in the Harvard Debate Team and interrupt your opponent with rude gestures or comments, you would be disqualified. Debate under these circumstances breaks down to an arguement or brawl.

    2) The moderator has to be an objective third party. Disqualification on all three debates so far.

    These debates are not professional, not valid and would not change my mind anyway. I will vote for whom I decide, based on the facts that I look up for myself.
    In fact, they are a national embarrassment.
    I applaud Romney and Ryan for trying to follow the rules and be respectful in the face of such bias and contention. They have class. Class, is not something money can buy. you have it or you do not. There is an old saying, “you cannot make a silk purse from a sow’s ear.”
    The point of this old saying could not be better taken.

    • Karolyn

      II didn’t watch because they just say the same thing over and over that we’ve seen in all the commercials.

      • Nobody’s Fool

        Karolyn, you didn’t watch for fear that you might hear some truth, and that your bad boy (oops, I didn’t mean that as racist) might show his true colors (oops, another borderline racist remark that I did not mean–just using normal American colloquialisms) and, perish the thought, your brain might be penetrated with F-A-C-T-S. Can’t have that!!!

      • uvuvuv

        also they don’t have television yet in south carolina, do they? just kidding, i’ve been there many times, they do.

    • Guest

      This is the best comment here.
      It was NOT a debate and Dulceb is totally correct.
      All three so far had leftist or democratic moderators and, except for Jim Lehrer, were SO OBVIOUSLY on the side of the democrats and gave them more time, did not stop interruptions, and even in this Crowley case, asked questions when it was supposed to be the ‘peoples’ questions.
      But, as it turned out, those questions were picked by Crowley from a basically democratic audience. Some partiality right?
      I would like to see a REAL DEBATE, with a neutral moderator, and questions from the people directly without knowing whether they were right or left. And real questions that the candidates did not know in advance. In this last one, I am certain they were known to Obama. He could not have been so feisty and a Biden clone if he did not know them.

      • Paul Wells

        The last “neutral” moderator just left for an all expenses paid vacation in Hawaii at the expense of someone with initials, BHO…. :)

      • eddie47d

        Is Paul trying to be funny condescending asinine or a little of each?

      • OneGuess

        Well, eddie47d, since you know everything (NOT), why don’t you tell us what Paul is trying to be? Hmmm?

  • DORIS A. BROWN

    I am not sleeping and under this Administration Venzelua isn’t doing too bad. Remember .. Chavaz would have voted for Obama if he could vote. By the time this election is over and now that Governor Romney is 6 points ahead for one hour, we will hasve enough dead voters, illegals, etc., that Obama would probably win by thousands of votes. If he doesn’t win, then we are supposed to have riots in our streets. What a lovely choice for people who are to be considerate of one another. Where did the people on the left and right go that were present on September 11, 2001? We are now more divided than ever. Lord help all of us whether we are on the right or left.

    • Karolyn

      OMG Doris! We are “supposed” to have riots in the streets? You epitomize those who spread rumors which in turn create the events to which you refer! Just because some jerks twittered about riots, it is “supposed” to happen. I suggest you get your information from somewhere other than this site. Parroting what othrs opinions are is very dangerous when it comes to this type of assertion. Although, actually, even Bob Livingston did not use the work “supposed” yesterday.

      • Dennis48e

        Karolyn. I suggest you try reading and comprehending what is written for once. Instead you take one statement that obviously was used to illustrate a point and not made as a statement of fact and attack the author for that statement.

        ” Although, actually, even Bob Livingston did not use the work “supposed” yesterday.”

        He didn’t need to. Mr livingston has the writing skills to get his point accross without using the obvious words such as supposed. I had no trouble understanding Mr Livingston was reporting and commenting on statements made over the electronic media without taking sides as to wheather they were believable or accurate or not.

      • Frank Kahn

        Actually Karolyn, what was said is not necessarily incorrect. In the military, when I was there, we had what we called “rumor control”. The purpose of rumor control was to create a situation that resulted in the rumor becoming a fact. So, regardless of who posted the tweets, the fact that they were made and people are aware of them, makes it possible that they (the tweets) will be self fulfilling.

        Personally, I think they were a plant, the word usages were too similar to be spontaneous. It is even possible they were made by right wing extremists or neocons, hoping to create unrest and hatred from both ends. But dont rule out the possibility of the “suggestion” that riots will occur being acted upon by some less than stable people.

      • Karolyn

        Dennis – Maybe you’re the one who needs a reading comprehension course if you did not get the meaning of my post.

      • Dennis48e

        Oh I got the meaning of your post karolyn. That is why I proved it wrong.

    • Steve E

      There probably won’t be any riots until Zimmerman is found not guilty in the Travon Martin case.

      • uvuvuv

        which coincidentally will be on wednesday nov 7 after obama’s loss. be careful out there.

      • eddie47d

        I believe Zimmerman will be found guilty and Obama will win the election. Totally different than your opinion and I may be right or wrong just like you. I think Obama will LEGALLY win by a close margin and Zimmerman will receive a reckless manslaughter verdict. At least I hope his sentence is not harsh.

  • TML

    “…despite not-inconsequential help from hapless “moderator” Candy Crowley…”

    The accompanying image says, Moderator Candy Crowley seemed to side with the President in the debate Tuesday, and this is the only thing in your article that touches that idea?

    I didn’t notice anything from the moderator that could be described as “help” for Obama.

    • Grammy

      How about interrupting Romney almost three times more often than Obama? How about saying that he called the 9-11-12 attack a terrorist action in the Rose Garden speech. Not true. She lied for him and proved she is definitely not impartial.

      • Steve E

        You are right. Candy Crowley will go down in history as the worst debate moderator in history.

      • TML

        Well, I’m not sure about the other 2 times… (It was hard to stay awake during the dog and pony show)… but the one interruption I did see was justified as a moderator when Romney wasn’t answering the question, and instead talking about schools and families, and blasting Obama about Fast and Furious. Considering Romney supports the assault weapons ban, but trying to “Red Herring” his way out of it, I see the interruption as on point.

        And although, I don’t see the significance in calling the 9-11-12 incident a “terrorist attack”, as opposed to a planned revolt… here is the speech in which he did say that at Rose Garden. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nu6VZ9DeVc

      • eddie47d

        Why didn’t Grammy question the author of this article for not posting the video that TML posted. Did she search out the facts before posting herself?

    • Nobody’s Fool

      TML, so you’re saying you slept through the debate? Candy Corn interrupted Romney every time he got close to a point. She even lied for oBlamer on the terrorist remark, saying he did call it a terrorist attack the next day. NOT–just because he had the word terrorist in his little store-bought speech does not constitute calling it a terrorist attack–as commentators everywhere have now clarified. You didn’t notice a single time when Candy helped oBlamer?? Obviously, you were not present for this debate. You must have been at the gathering of commie kool-aid drinkers.

      • TML

        Nobody’s Fool says “TML, so you’re saying you slept through the debate? “

        Almost, yeah, lol

        Nobody’s Fool says “Candy Corn interrupted Romney every time he got close to a point. She even lied for oBlamer on the terrorist remark, saying he did call it a terrorist attack the next day. NOT–just because he had the word terrorist in his little store-bought speech does not constitute calling it a terrorist attack–as commentators everywhere have now clarified.”

        I refer you to my comments to Grammy above… especially the part I will now rephrase as a question. What is the significance of calling it a “terrorist attack” as opposed to a planned revolt? I just really don’t understand why people are getting their panties in a wad over trying to determine if it was a protest turned deadly riot, or a revolt. “Terrorist attack” is applied to just about any crime these days to the point the term is meaningless.

        Nobody’s Fool says “ You didn’t notice a single time when Candy helped oBlamer?? “

        Not really, but I don’t put much credibility in the entire debate to begin with as they were arresting another Presidential candidate outside the building at the time.

        Nobody’s Fool says “You must have been at the gathering of commie kool-aid drinkers”

        I don’t even support Obama or Romney. You know what they say when you assume, right?

  • Grammy

    Perhaps you Obama supporters can clarify something he said in the debates. It made no sense to me. He said, “The commitments I made I’ve kept. And those I couldn’t keep…” Direct quote. I wrote it down. Did he keep his commitments or didn’t he? What is he saying?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What does O mean by the word commitment?
      He obligated or pledged himself to do what exactly?
      Is O blathering esoteric nonsense?
      Are those activities supposed to be way beyond our human capacity to understand because he envisions himself as a child of destiny and he is being led to be a saviour of America and in turn the world?
      Like all tyrants written up in history O is no different, he will keep his hands clean but his followers will do what they think he wants them to do.

    • eddie47d

      That is fairly simple to understand Grammy. There are things he accomplished and other things that did not get done. Happens during any Presidency!

  • DORIS A. BROWN

    I would like to see a debate between President Obama and Governor Romney WITHOUT A MODERATOR!

    • Grammy

      Good idea, Doris. They could just turn on the appropriate microphone for the prescribed two minutes, then shut that one off and turn on the other for his prescribed two minutes.
      Moderator or not, I definitely think they should regulate the time for each candidate by turning off his microphone when his time is done. And leaving it off while his opponent is speaking so he can’t grab his opponent’s time.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Seriously, the debates are an aside. By this time the American people should know what O and Romney both believe and if the people have any discernment capability they can fill in the words that are not said by O or Romney.

      • vazirmukhtar

        Grammy, controlling the microphones is the director’s responsibility, just as the director is responsible for which cameras will capture the image(s) that go out to the broadcasters. This person may be paying no attention to the time each candidate uses or under someone’s thumb.

        You’re right about the microphones, of course. When one behaves like a child, he should be treated as a child. Spanking being ruled out, take away his toy.

    • Carolyn

      Amen, Doris!

  • http://robert1407.wordpress.com chefrobert1407

    This is the first President in my life time that was called liar in front of the total congress of the USA. Not once by twice and yet the mindless followers worship and dote on his every word. Having great Social help plans is great, but in order to accomplish that task we have to have almost full employment so tax money can roll into the government to support the plans. Presently there high unemployment, no income to support the programs and the country is going broke. We now have a Government of the Elitists who rule that you and I did not vote for. There is the EPA who destroys business & Jobs, the FDA which I refer to as “murder for corporate profit inc.” which allows Pharmaceutical to sell drugs that kill not cure at thousands of % profit and food processors to poison the food supplies to make you sick. Why is this allowed? There is many more new rulers of which you and I have no controls and if one speaks up there is a punishment and you have no rights under the Constitution. It is all there, but the problem is the citizens have been made dumber and unable to read, write or accomplish simple math. So, live under the unelected rulers and shut up, for sooner than you think there is no Republic of the USA, but the Socialist States of America run by committees who rule.

    • eddie47d

      You are partially right but the thing is we had and still have businesses who do terrible damages to our environment. The EPA didn’t come about from thin air it was because of the carelessness from certain businesses. We all know which ones they are and how the taxpayer got stuck with the clean up bill while the owners got rich. Do you care about that destruction?

  • http://godfatherpolitics.com/4260/us-president-commander-in-chief-congress-calls-him/ Andrew Jackson

    What is the surprise (to Much Candy) did what all sociaIists do, she lied, and the first thing she did was call Mr. Romney, Romley to throw him off, and would look out the corner of her eye at 0bama so see if he needed help, so what is strange about that? That is her liberal nature, did Romney think, that all of a sudden liberal democrats were going to have morals just because they were force to put God back in their platform?
    But I have to give credit where credit is due, 0bama lied with much more enthusiasm this debate, I can’t wait till the next, and it looked like he already had been informed of the questions he would be asked.

  • uvuvuv

    at least you can say this about hitler, he never denied that he was from austria.

  • uvuvuv

    in keeping with these times of austerity that creepy crawley looks like she’s really trimming down. what is it with fat liberals, do they not know that every plateful of over eating is food denied to some struggling poor person just getting by on snap stamps?

  • uvuvuv

    romney has a better voice than bark obama. for such a wispy lightweight that obama’s thickly truculent tone is way out of character. romney’s voice has that reassuring edge like reagan’s did, and fdr, johnny carson and walter cronkite. obama sounds like he’s saying, you wanna fight, buddy?

    • Karolyn

      Whew! So glad Romney’s voice has a reassuring tone. I was a little worried there!

  • uvuvuv

    there is a book called roberts rules of order and it sets up debating parameters. yes, there should be no interrupting or talking past the allotted time. it’s a measure of intellectual acumen if you can organize your thoughts and present them convincingly in a set time frame, and also by the way stay on subject.

  • nancy B

    Miss Candy Creepy made a Fool of herself!

  • Alex

    Hoooo hooo! Campaign contributions from the military favor President Obama over
    Mitt Romney by TWO-to-ONE!! Even the soldiers know that Mitt will throw them down the hole if it means MORE MONEY for DynaCorp, Raytheon, and KBR!!!

  • fogey

    the end of the world will be here in december saving us from all this bullcrap got my reservations made at yellow stone and will be setting in tghe middle of the caldera for a sight you only see once in a life time while you hope and changy sucks have no clue on what is going on.the system is not going to change the beast has 2 heads democrat and republican but the same beast(ok numb nuts read system) nothing changes this system fails just as all the other attempts at democracy have

  • s c

    For those of you who refuse to admit that Obummer can make any mistakes, put it to the test. FORCE your sons and daughters to get a job at the State Department. Let your sons and daughters go overseas and HOPE that the Putz-in-Chief will find a reason to make certain that they are going to be PROTECTED (got any kids who have a fresh degree and CAN’T find a fricking JOB]?.
    Isn’t it bad enough that you refuse to admit that we’re going to be in Afghhanistan even LONGER than Obummer PROMISED? Wake up, you braindead sheep! Tell it to the woman whose son was the computer specialist when the ambassador was murdered. Ask HER about the Poser-in-Chief’s COMPASSION and CONCERN. LOSERS!

    • Karolyn

      I would doubt that any of “us” would say that Obama has not made mistakes. Just because we don’t join in on the condemnation does not mean that we follow blindly.

  • James Corbin

    If Obama wins WE”RE DONE!!! I don’t see how people can be fooled. People wake up. If the government can give you thing , they can also take away from you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.cleary.35 Richard Cleary

    just love your writing style mr ben crystal. i once had a professor that said i could write–but your writing justifies my thoughts. keep on kepping on dude

  • Big dog

    Ed sorrry to say that you have convinced me to change my vote. You sound like a creepy weird guy who sits at home and masterbates himself silly. I can only hope you do not live in my neighborhood.

    • http://none Claire

      Big dog–Now that’s real nice. Since I have a number of dogs–I am thankful you are not one of them.

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