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It’s A Dirty Job

October 9, 2012 by  

It’s A Dirty Job
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Just about 36 hours after Governor Mitt Romney debated President Barack Obama the way Godzilla debated Tokyo, the Department of Labor released the September jobs report. To say Obama needed a win after face-planting in Denver while nearly 70 million Americans stifled a giggle is an understatement on par with “Chris Matthews might want to lay off the pipe.” And the boys at the Bureau of Labor Statistics delivered for their boss — big time. As of Friday morning, the Nation’s unemployment rate had dropped to 7.9 percent (the lowest at any point during Obama’s tenure).

But there are wins, and then there are Doug Flutie-as-time-expires miracles. Friday morning’s rather — ahem — timely jobs report is the latter. Just as Obama headed into the final month of campaign season seriously exposed, along came employment numbers Democrats can point to with a modicum of pride. Except, at second glance, the jobs numbers look less fortuitous and more like fantasy.

The magic September jobs report might indeed be a political Hail Mary completion in the end zone, or it might not. There are only two possible scenarios.

Scenario 1: The numbers are bogus.

  • The numbers don’t add up. Payrolls hit the forecast number almost to the dollar, but the employment rate shot up. Of the jobs created, 582,000 are part-time only. Either the numbers are as honest as an Al Gore “science” lecture or most of the “jobs” are what the Democratic Party itself refers to as “McJobs.” Even then, the numbers don’t match.
  • Obama’s – ahem — issues with the truth are hardly a new problem. (See also Secretaries Hilda Solis and Kathleen Sebelius and the Hatch Act, Accomplice General Eric Holder and Operation Fast and Furious, and the double-talking regarding the brutal murders of Ambassador Chris Stevens and his three fellow victims.)
  • Actual data indicate a real unemployment rate of closer to 14 percent. That includes the millions of Americans who have given up trying to find work in Obama’s economy.
  • Forty-seven million Americans depend on food stamps to feed themselves and their children.
  • Obama’s biggest economic achievement is the so-called “rescue” of General Motors Co., itself both a financial and industrial disaster.

Scenario 2: The numbers are real.

  • It’s a miracle! Unless you consider that the numbers mean that Obama has taken nearly four years to deliver no change whatsoever.

It’s not as if any of the casual liars in the Obama Administration will acknowledge that their man got Mitt-rolled. Nor are they likely to admit that Obama lost because he’s really a marionette whose appeal is thinner than an anorexic socialite with a coke habit. Obama’s whole campaign is the Memorex version of his 2008 campaign, itself nothing but a compilation of the race-baiting, finger-pointing and class-envy drivel that cost the Democrats control of the House in 2010.

They might as well stick with phony jobs reports and other flimsy excuses for achievement. The people whose jobs flew the coop with Obama’s promises of “change” know the difference, and they’ll remember come Election Day.

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • phideaux

    Right on Ben.

    • eddie47d

      Of course you would say that whether it is true or not. Most Republican sheeple will denounce anything if it will make their side win. All 50 States send in their unemployment numbers to have those figures tallied. So basically the author is saying that those States are in collaberation with each other and lying to get Obama elected. That would be one heck of a stretch. There is also an independent poll of 60,000 households to keep those numbers accurate. So there again all those Americans must be lying in favor of Obama? What a hoot! Why would an unemployed person lie about whether he is unemployed or not? Most would be eager to say they finally got a job and those that were never unemployed certainly wouldn’t say they are unemployed. Now if those unemployment figures came out early (like the day before the debate) then you could say someone is up to something. So that Friday report didn’t help Obama one bit on Tuesday. The obvious answer is that the Republicans just can’t stand any good news and will then turn it all into bad news.

      • wandamurline

        don’t understand how this happened. In the last report, there were only 98,000 jobs created and the unemployment numbers stayed the same and now in September, there were 114,000 (a difference of 16,000 jobs) and the unemployment number went down three points? I am sorry, but someone is cooking the books. We needed at least 250,000 new jobs to even keep up and somehow 114,000 made all this difference? Put nothing past this administration, when Romney was ahead in the polls before the debate, Axelrod visited the Gallup polling service…..Chicago thuggery at its best. Don’t believe the polls (remember this is a replay of 1980-Carter ahead of Reagan by 15 points) and don’t believe the unemployment numbers. The snake oil salesman is at work and is lying again.

      • Brenda

        If you consider that part-time jobs are a good thing, then quit your present one(that is if you have one) and apply for a part-time. Now try to provide for yourself and family on maybe $10.00 per hour.Full time employment at that rate would only garner $400.00 per week or about $20,800.00 per year.

        Now take into consideration seasonal employment. Most companies hire from October to December to meet the seasonal demand. But come January, you are out of work.

        Then there is the confirmed number control where information can only be reported if given out by the Dept of Labor(where all information coming in from the various states are correlated and reported) and having worked for the federal government it is not uncommon for reports to be slanted in the direction your supervisor wishes it to go.

        Also, obama ask all military equipment and arms manufactures to hold off on their lay offs until after the election when these layoffs were to have been given within a certain time perod. Lockheed Martin agreed to this after the administration told them they would cover the law suits that would arise from this action.

      • Shelia

        amen Eddie your are right

      • http://alsina846.wordpress.com millie

        Hey buddy you need to wake up, obama is a cheater and he plays dirty, and you should know better you been around for a long long long time

      • got my licence

        When Bush was pres. unemployment was 4.6 to 5.5 and it was the worst since the great depresion (so the media claimed). We are now to believe that because we have a number under 8 that all is good and getting better. I have noticed that any number the pressent administration gives us this week will be adjusted up the following week. I also find that any improvement in this economy seems to come from states that have Republican gov. that incourages energy production. Emagine that using American resorces to employ Americans who pay taxes to provide the energy needs of America. What a consept. One other item, When did the safety net become a hammock?

      • http://alsina846.wordpress.com millie

        eddie47 I said before and I will say it again, YOU ARE A BUM and KG too

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Sorry eddie47more commie lies. Your side and especially obozo lie’s when he gets up in the morning and before he goes to bed at night. As I have said before, he only lie’s when his lips are moving and he never shuts up. The left of which you are a part of, votes the dead, illegals, animals and always more then once, isn’t that the real reason for no ID’s at the polls? They need one to get welfare, food stamps, open a account and drive but, a hardship to have one to vote? Your commie party are all liars, dumb and blind and you lead the parade with your marxist comments.

      • http://twitter.com/RobertdeLuna2 Robert de Luna (@RobertdeLuna2)

        Eddie referring to republicans as sheeple is calling the kettle black. It’s Democrats who can’t speak for themselves, all you do is repeat the lies you keep hearing from Obama and MSNBC, which are so crazy even my Bulldog knows they’re wrong. The recent jobs numbers are a joke. How could the UE rate drop three points with fewer new jobs in September than August and slower growth as well. Obama’s whole term has been one lie after another. It’s been four years and we’re not really sure who he is, where he’s from, if he’s really married with children. He has two Social Security numbers, his college records are under wraps, his childhood is a mystery, Columbia referred to him as a “foreign student” he was a doper in high and sold cocaine, no one is sure who his real father is, he was mentored by Communist president Frank Davis. What little we know about him is negative and he proved how stupid he is during the debate.

      • Tommie

        Hey Donkey Boy, we really don’t need you here and I heard that Obama and the DNC need another spokesperson, since Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s B.S. has failed to convince anyone about the batch of Lies coming out of the Whitehouse. You sound qualified to pick up the batton and make it to the finish line for Obama. We can only hope that you finish 2nd place. For the good of all Americans, even you!

      • mitch

        you are a dangerous hoot

      • eddie47d

        GotMyLicense; Go look at any unemployment chart on Bush vs Obama. They are very close to being twins. Bush pushed it over 8% also and Reagan had it up to 10.8%. Both Bush and Reagan had 8 years and Obama 4. So get your panties out of that wad for Obama inherited that 8% from Bush.

      • eddie47d

        Benjamin Fox; You are no more than a professional liar and a very poor excuse for a Conservative. Nasty hateful and did I mention …a LIAR. There is not one thing in my comment that is marxist and what is up with that animals voting. Didn’t Lassie die years ago?

      • eddie47d

        LUNAtic; Is that one of the newest Conservative conspiracies that Obama is not married and has no kids? What a riot you are!

      • APN

        Wandernurlin said: Chicago thuggery at its best. Don’t believe the polls (remember this is a replay of 1980-Carter ahead of Reagan by 15 points) and don’t believe the unemployment numbers. The snake oil salesman is at work and is lying again.

        Well said, based upon the 2010 election results, current TRUE economic factors, gas prices, dwindling per family incomes,rising heathcare costs, the middle east ON FIRE, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

        ODUMBO will lose in a LAND-SLIDE and this election cycle will make 2010 look like a cakewalk and will be the un-doing of the Democratic “Communist” party as we currently know it.

        APN

      • Mel

        I understand their might be a few individuals here who did`nt do well when they were in school with math. Allow me to educate you on these numbers that as you say are good for lack of a better term. For those of you who did`nt pass Elementary math, 1+1=2. Got it ! Obama and the Department of Labor, have somehow been able to “BEND LIGHT” in a way that maybe aliens from another world agree because they don`t know any better, but people with eyes that see, ans bank accounts that get smaller along with our pay checks, as well as those of American`s who aren`t as fortunate as the group of people who actually depend on the food stamps, and unemployment checks will agree with (and we know that number grows everyday) see the lack of sincerity, commitment to America from your President, and along with the jobs we have presently, with the tax money as well, go bye, bye. Wake-up before your life changes because of these failed policies.

      • Jibbs

        Dang!!! 47d,
        I can’t imagine that you are still holding onto obama’s coat tails still kissing his azz.

        I’m starting to think that your name is not eddie, but in fact you sound word for word like my sister. (Nancy, is that you?) You both must listen to the same news station as you both repeat word for word, what they tell you……There’s no place like home, just follow the yellow brick road, then click your heals together three times. And take KG with you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.sweet.12 John Sweet

        Dear eddie47d
        Nice try but go back and look at the polling and how it was done. The Labor Department conducted a survey that returned results that state there were on average 13.5 jobs per house hold contacted. Prove me wrong if you can.

      • Freddy

        “You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
        You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
        You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
        You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
        You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
        You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s
        initiative and independence.
        You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they
        could and should do for themselves.”

        Abraham Lincoln

        47 million on food stamps… plus all those millions going into Government funded housing.. (sustainability at the Democratic level).

        Obama and the Democratic party has spent 5.54 Trillion DEFICIT dollars in less than 3.5 years… (oh and saved anywhere from 2 million to 5.5 million jobs depending who you talk too.. lets do some math.. 5.54 TRILLION for 5.5 million jobs is how much per job????)

        That 5.54 Trillion dollars spent, is more than the last 12 Presidents put together…
        Before the “New Deal” A Deomcratic ideal, our country was 8.5 billion dollars in debt or less for the prior 50 years. All of our countries debt was war related.
        Now 16 Trillion in Debt and about 80% give or take is in Social Welfare…

        I hear about this Sustainablility.. how is social welfare sustainable?
        I ask because of what is happening in Greece, Spain and a few other countries.
        The Welfare and extrodinary pension funds have destroyed the financial systems of
        these countries and America is following suit. Since President Wilson decided it was better to use British ideals instead of American ideals you know, capitalism, Creator given rights, etc…

        The education system was second only to Germany if second, then LBJ decided
        everyone needs more education… now the kids come from school with socialist ideas
        instead of learning how to write… they make video now instead of read or write…
        If America went back to constitutional law, there would be riots.. oh wait since Obama has been in office there are more riots in the world since the 1960′s… Protesting the whole term in America and other countries…

        Tell Americans the Attack on our embassy was over a movie .. over two weeks the Administration said this, plus Obama after the first debate, KNOWING THE WHOLE TIME IT WAS A TERROIST ATTACK… yet denied as a terroist attack… We have the terroists on the run, we have them disorganised and running scared.. as they kill our Ambassador that has asked for more security even as it was lowered, even the security team was questioning why they were being pulled after 16 or 18 months of threats…
        This Administration and the democratic party has streched the truth so far no one knows if what they say is real or not, and you and you listen and praise them… WHY?

        If you really think our social programs need to get bigger, MOVE, Greece would be a good start… see what your ideals do to a country first hand…
        I believe in helping others… I donate when I can afford… ask Vice President Biden, the one that is saying the middle class and poor need help, ask him how much he donated to any charity in his whole life.. the answer will be nothing.. because he believes in forcing others to do what he will not do himself…

        Ask someone that was living in Germany when Hitler took power… he was going to save the world.. in fact the first few years as leader he did great things for his country… as he took more and more power away from the people…until it was too late and the people had to keep quiet or get arrested… as the Obama Administration works to disarm the American people and force the news to say certain things… ask fox news about it…
        ask the other reporters from other news agencys that are not working for that agency anymore…

        Look at what obama said when he was “off Mic.” When I win the next term I will have more power to do what congress and the senate won’t let me do.. (Hitlerish idea?)
        look up when he said he had “brushed off” the GOP to spend more time with his family… then he comes on the news and says they will not meet wijth him…hmm.. may less time at the golf course and on the basketball court would benitit our country? Just maybe?

        As our government creates these new laws and prints money to pay for them, the dollar gets devalued, it cost more to live, plus you take law abiding people and turn them into crimminals.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Move to Russia of China Eddie the teddy.

      • Elda

        I wondered about that. I have read that California, one of the worst states for unemployment, did not get its numbers in. So that means it is okay to just not count them? If this the way he….Obama…. runs the government? It seems the answer is yes. Just look at Scenario 1: item 2. When will people open their eyes, or rather close their open hands and do what is best for this country?

      • http://bighealthreport Joy

        OBVIOUSLY this was written before the TRUTH came out: they “forgot” to include CALIFORNIA into the mix !!!!!! One of the largest populations in the country, and they conveniently FORGOT to include them in the count !!!! SO…..it’s NOT the Republicans who are delusional and trying to make the demon craps look bad, it IS, as usual, the demon craps LYING AND LYING AND LYING AGAIN !!!!!

      • Bev

        Actually I believe there were a whole bunch of files from California that were not included in the job numbers report. This coming week they will revise the numbers, again. Of course they were cooking the books. These people are in power and they want to stay that way. Michelle is not done vacationing and firing numerous people on her extremely large staff.

      • The Big Easy

        @-mo-bummmmer lover—–COMRADE—-So I guess the fact that mo-bummmer STOLE the AMERICAN tax-payers money and gave it to his CRONIES by the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in those stimulus ponzie schemes,instead of getting it to the people that are on food-stamps,welfare,section 8 housing etc.,etc.,through getting more jobs created is a good thing ???????????? This just SHOWS how much he really cares for the poor people,like ZERO %,he is too busy doing several MILLIONS of rounds of golf,or a VERY expensive party ( at the expense of the AMERICAN tax-payers ) in the white house,or some t.v. show for the left-wingers,or some fund-raiser at some 40 THOUSAND DOLLARS A PLATE, or taking his woman to a dinner in n.y. on air-force one ( again-at the AMERICAN tax-payers money )—-but NEVER actually working to get more jobs CREATED for the poor people he CARES so much about.————zombies———–

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “@-mo-bummmmer lover—–COMRADE—-”

          Do you have any idea how absolutely stupid this kind of comeback is? It is childish on the elementary school level.

          “but NEVER actually working to get more jobs CREATED for the poor people he CARES so much about.”

          What, exactly, do you expect Obama to do to create jobs? Are you aware that that is not within his power? ALL he can do is suggest to Congress.

          So, please, if you have a logical answer please use it. But this childish name calling makes what you have to say completely immaterial.

      • Clayton

        Like it or not Eddie47d your guy has been a looser from the time he was a senator. Lots of fluff and NO substance.. it’s been lie after lie after lie.. I’m sure you are a very good COMMRAD.. hang in there buddy and watch your great country go the tubes if our O’slime boy gets re elected..

    • Shelia

      get over it Ben, the numbers are in and correct.

      • http://yahoo bob peters

        so you are a CPA??? the only thing correct about the numbers is the koolaid you drank.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I think we should listen to Jack Welsh, the ex CEO of GE. He actually KNOWS something about “numbers”!!!
        http://news.yahoo.com/ex-ge-ceo-welch-sets-twitter-fire-jab-195106565–business.html

      • Gary L

        How gullible can you be to believe those numbers? Even if they are real, it means he did absolutely bupkis throughout his entire first term. Big surprise.

      • Hedgehog

        Excreta tauri cerebrum vincit! Rough translation; B.S. conquers brains.

      • KG

        Dulce et decorum pro patria morte.
        “Im your huckelberry.” Doc

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Such a naive, trusting female you are or should we call you gullible.

      • Steve E

        It doesn’t matter if the unemployment rate is 14% or 1%. If you are one of those people out of a full time job. You know things are bad no matter who says what. Those numbers are not going to change your perspective of the economy.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        How does that Cool-ade taste Shelia, there are not correct, they don’t count the ones who have given up looking, those who ran out of benefit’s and the real numbers are in the teens, grow up, wake up and vote for freedom instead of marxism.

      • Kinetic1

        Nancy,
        Are you talking about the same Jack Welch who, while at GE saw a net job reduction of between 30,000 and 100,000? The same Jack Welch who told Chris Mathews that he had “no hard evidence” to back up his claims? Yes, “he actually KNOWS something about “numbers”!”, enough to admit that he doesn’t have any to rely upon.

        Many on the Right (FOX News comes to mind) like to compare Obama’s numbers to those of Ronald Reagan. Both faced a recession when they took office, and both faced rising unemployment. Well, sort of. Carter’s last year (1980) started out with 3 months of flat unemployment at 6.25%, but it rose sharply and by July had reached 7.75%. By the time Reagan took office there had been a steady 5 month decline, reaching 7.25% in December. Obama, on the other hand came into office on the heels of an 8 month trend of sharply rising unemployment, beginning at 5% and ending around 7.5%! So while one might say that they both started out with virtually the same rate of unemployment, one faced improving numbers while the other was dealing with a rising crisis.

        So, how does the comparison look after 4 years? Both entered re-election with an unemployment rate roughly the same as when they first entered office. Both had maintained government employment numbers (though Reagan would go on to increase the number of Federal employees in his second term.) The average annual compound returns for the Dow, S&P500, and NASDAQ have been 17.2%, 25.3% and 31.7% respectively compared to Reagan’s first term results of 6.86%, 6.16%, and 7.02% respectively. Unemployment under Reagan 10% for a 10 month period, reaching a high of 10.8% for two months in late fall of 1982. The highest unemployment rate under Obama was one month of 10% in late 2009. And the debt as a percentage of GDP increased roughly 4 times under Reagan, while it is decreasing at roughly the same rate under Obama.
        http://hypervocal.com/politics/2012/reagan-vs-obama-economy-market-numbers/

        You and Mr. Welsh can choose to believe the latest report or not. The fact is that President Obama is doing the job, in spite of an uncooperative Republican Congress.

      • http://twitter.com/RobertdeLuna2 Robert de Luna (@RobertdeLuna2)

        Shelia, how do you figure the numbers are correct, the numbers are cooked just like everything Obama does. How can you or anybody for that matter support Obama. Just his background alone should disqualify him from being president. We wouldn’t support a man for pesident who is a former drug dealer and Obama admits that he sold cocaine. Obama couldn’t pass a background check if he weren’t president. After becoming president Obama did the one thing that would hurt the economy and that was to increase debt. He not only did this once but three times. In addition we needed jobs more than anything, instead of creating new jobs Obama cut good jobs instead. He stopped Keystone Pipeline, losing 100,000 jobs, he stopped off shore drilling losing at least 50,000 more jobs. Obama stopped drilling on public lands losing a minimum of 1 million new jobs plus indirect employment. Obama then sent money to Brazil paying for them to drill for oil. Obama cut the production of f-16′s for Taiwan which cost 15,000 jobs in Texas at Lockheed. Obama could have ended the recession in less than a year if he had left things along instead of messing up the economy more. America can’t afford four more years of his destruction.

      • eddie47d

        LUNAtic: You proved yourself to to out of touch or just plain touched! Not a one of your figures were accurate so I hope you don’t have a job in accounting. The Keystone project is no more than 3,000 tops and closer to 2,000 not your 100,000. Maybe a few more from subsidiaries. So you are about 90-95,000 off. Your other figures are laughable and down right dishonest too. Is that how Conservatives fudge their numbers in all those corrupt Wall Street business dealings? Thanks for proving it so well!

      • Kinetic1

        Robert de Luna,
        When did Obama admit to selling cocaine? Do you have anything to back up your claims?

      • Robert Smith

        “He stopped Keystone Pipeline, losing 100,000 jobs, ”

        Remember, that oil would go to a free port and America would get NOTHING.

        It’s a very bad deal for America.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        From Robert: “a former drug dealer and Obama admits that he sold cocaine. ”

        Another big lie.

        You can’t provide a quote.

        Rob

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Yeah, Kinetic1! THAT Jack Welch!!! He laid off all of those people because he understood how it would affect his numbers! He’s good with numbers! His numbers were more important to him than anything else! I didn’t say I liked him! I said he KNOWS his numbers! And I don’t care if NBC makes fun of him because he “feels” it “smells” it or whatever! The man KNOWS his numbers!!! Certainly better than a bunch of twits on TV!!! OR YOU!!! Actually, it didn’t even take a numbers genius to know that they were scamming us! That was pretty easy! It amazes me that they thought we would fall for it! LAME!!!

      • Deerinwater

        Nancy in Nebraska says:
        October 9, 2012 at 8:33 am
        I think we should listen to Jack Welsh, the ex CEO of GE. He actually KNOWS something about “numbers”!!!

        that was a good write up Nancy ~ and I don’t doubt the numbers have been tweaked.

        But after listening to Mitt’s fuzzy math ~ let’s face it ~ the first liar hasn’t got a chance.

      • Bev

        Oh Shelia let me show you some pretzel logic. According to the Obama Administration if everyone quits looking for work the unemployment numbers would be 0%. Isn’t that great. I wish I could do that with math.

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          “According to the Obama Administration if everyone quits looking for work the unemployment numbers would be 0%. ”

          When, exactly, did the Obama Administration state this, and please provide a link to it.

    • http://joey.mimweddings.com/Blog Joseph Delli Gatti

      My unemployment claim was denied in Portland, OR for nearly a month until magically it all went through on the 28th of September. The excuses were that because I was doing volunteer work, I couldn’t have been available to accept work within 72 hours of being accepted for paid employment… . I’m fighting to get those weeks counted – especially since I was still applying and interviewing that month.

      I feel really bad for people less educated and less able to navigate the system than I am. They’ve got no chance at all. That system is getting tougher and tougher and more complex to navigate.

  • Vigilant

    BLS must have contracted out the East Anglia global warming “scientists” to do the jobs numbers this cycle.

    • momo

      For these numbers to be correct, the decrease in the unemploymnet number would signify a GDP growth rate of 5 percent. Last time I checked GDP was growing at 1.3 percent.

  • KG

    You guys are idiots. What “patriot” roots for the failure of our country? Why don’t you reach out and try to help another human being? Oh, that’s right. In YOUR world, selfishness is a VIRTUE. Thank you, Saint Ayn Rand for freeing us from the shackles of civilization.

    Obama is going to win – not because of the numbers, but IN SPITE of the numbers. People are pizzed off about supporting a bunch of lazy, greedy rich people who sit in the sunshine at their Florida resort and complain about the “criminals” who are ruining our country because they have the audacity to ask for their share of Americas prosperity that they helped build.

    • Vigilant

      “What “patriot” roots for the failure of our country?”

      Certainly no one here. Where did you read that? In your fevered imagination?

      Take a reading comprehension course (start at grade level one or two). The thrust of the article and postings was the devious and dirty tricks of this administration, not denigrating a faulty statistic because it purported to be good news.

      Alinsky diversions and non sequiturs don’t work here, KG.

      P.S. Time to reassess your sentiments. In supporting Obama, you are rooting for the failure of the country. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. I officially brand you a scoundrel.

      • eddie47d

        Mitch McConnell said it best 4 years ago when he said “we (Republicans) will make sure Obama is a one term President and we will do anything in our power to make it so” He then made reference to sabotaging Obama and not to cooperate with any legislation presented. That in itself is allowing America to fail.

      • Vigilant

        Eddie, I’d be hard put to describe a nobler objective than getting the current president out of office. McConnell’s wisdom has proven to be impeccably on the mark.

        Obama’s complete disrespect for the Constitution and rule of law have not stopped him from getting much of what he wanted anyway.

        Read: selective enforcement of federal immigration law (exempting non-citizen students et. al.), failing to prosecute voter intimidation laws (NBPP), failing to defend federal laws in court (DOMA), and blocking state immigration law that is virtually identical to federal law (Arizona).

        Continue with: illegally making “recess” appointments when no recess did in fact exist, violating UCC bankruptcy law by freezing out GM bondholders, pooh-poohing violations of the Hatch Act (Sibelius), and violation of the War Powers Act (Libya).

        Add to this: appointment of a slew of unaccountable czars of dubious character, sidestepping the will of Congress and the people through unconstitutional regulatory agency fiats (EPA, etc.), aiding in the cover up of the Fast & Furious scandal, appointment of SCOTUS justices that have NO fealty to their oath of office, etc., etc., etc.

        I repeat, I’d be hard put to describe a nobler objective than getting the current president out of office.

    • Vigilant

      KG says, “Obama is going to win – not because of the numbers, but IN SPITE of the numbers.”

      For once you might be right. And that’s the dirty rotten shame of it. The programmed, undereducated idiots like yourself will vote for socialism even as the current numbers eloquently display the abject bankruptcy of that philosophy.

      • Dwight Mann

        Touche’

      • Ann Crawford

        Well stated !

      • Paul Wells

        Absolutely correct!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I have not believed the numbers for one minute! How could there be that many blind, stupid ignorant people out there?!?

      • Shelia

        sound stupid Vigilant, hope you completed high school .

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Sheila, YOU’RE the one who sounds stupid! You have never ONCE posted anything that contained intelligent information! Your posts are NOTHING but ad hominem attacks! Do you know ANYTHING? Have you EVER studied the issues? Do you have one single shred of data or maybe a fact or two upon which you base your inane comments? I doubt it very much! You are a twit!!!

      • Robert Smith

        “For once you might be right. And that’s the dirty rotten shame of it. ”

        The dirty rotten shame of it is that trickle down has had the top 1% tax cut in place that’s driven this country to the brink of a depression.

        America can’t afford to keep doing the same failed things and expect to survivd.

        Rob

      • KG

        Vigilant
        do you get your Social Security check in the mail, or is it Direct Deposit?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Hey, KG! IF he received his social security he earned it!!! He paid for it every week of his adult life! He worked for it and he PAID for it! So don’t insinuate that he’s getting a handout! NOTHING could be further from the truth!

      • 45caliber

        Nancy:

        I’ve NEVER believed the numbers … but I still expect Oblama to win. When he and his friends control the voting machines (the SEIU programs them) how can you expect him to NOT win?

        • http://YAHOO! TIM B

          YES THE PUPPETS IN THE WHITE HOUSE WILL PROBALLY WILL SUCK ! CEED !! BECAUSE OF THERE MONEY STEALING FROM THERE ON PEOPLE !! I HOPE OUR CHILDRENS ,CHILDREN !! HAVE A LIFE TO LIVE BECAUSE OBOMA WILL LEAVE OUR COUNTRY AND TAKE HALF THE WHITE HOUSE WITH HIM WHEN HES THROUGH WITH US ! AND YES HIS CROOKED BIDEN AND PULOOSY TOO !! WHAT SOME FOOLS THAT SUPPORT THEIVES AND VANDELS !!! NIGHT MARE ON ELM STREET AGAIN !! WOW !! PEOPLE GET READY !! FREEDY CRUGGER OBOMA !! HA !! HA !! MALCOM X !! CHINA LOVES OBOMA AND ALL THE INTEREST HE GIVES THEM !!! OH YES !!!

      • KG

        Ummm…. Social Security is a SOCIALIST PROGRAM. We need to get rid of it and kill all the old people who arent pulling the cart. Right?

        You are a bunch of hippocrits.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        KG, simple analogy for your puny little brain. The man/men who have control of the sheep have a ready access to the sheeps’ wool which no matter how the sheep baa it is not their own anymore. But the sheep gets to eat given feed and the grazing grass where they are led.
        In this case the nation is controlled and the peoples’ pockets are being picked and the pockets are not their own and they get a little pocket change to mollify them so they don’t baa too much.

      • KG

        I hate to say it, but you know wa-a-a-a-y too much about sheep.

      • phideaux

        “Ummm…. Social Security is a SOCIALIST PROGRAM. We need to get rid of it and kill all the old people who arent pulling the cart. Right?”

        So now KG advocated death camps for those over 65 and confiscation of their contributions to the SS fund.

      • JeffH

        Honestly, KG and eddie must somehow be conjoined or related. If ever there was twin parrot smemorizing and repeating all of the “Marxist/communist/socialist/progressive” talking points…these two have got it down pat. Care not that they even understand what they’re saying a majority of the time…it’s the constant repetition of their subliminal phyche…the key to their propagandized mindless vocal repetitious babble.

        …and Sheila admires both of them…WHEW, what a rush!

        POLLY WANT A CRACKER? barrraaaccckkkk!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        KG, may I suggest you read the Bible which it seams you already own and use it to misquote.
        Simplest human behaviours are the comparisons between sheep and wolves.

      • KG

        What did Christ tell us to be? BTW, are u armenian?

      • Vigilant

        Shelia says:

        “sound stupid Vigilant, hope you completed high school .”

        Why, yes, my dear, and I managed two college degrees as well; and you?

        One doesn’t need even a high school education to know that you don’t start a sentence with an uncapitalized word, and miss the subject of the sentence (“You”). Moreover, that portion of your compound sentence following the comma (which should have been a semicolon) has no subject (“I”) either.

        Now, what were you were saying about “stupid?”

      • Vigilant

        Robby Smith says, “The dirty rotten shame of it is that trickle down has had the top 1% tax cut in place that’s driven this country to the brink of a depression.”

        Say after me, Robby, “the dirty rotten shame of it is that unbridled expenditure and confiscatory taxation have driven this country to the brink of a depression.”

      • Vigilant

        KG says:

        Vigilant

        do you get your Social Security check in the mail, or is it Direct Deposit?

        Not that it’s any of your business, but it’s direct deposit.

        Thank you, Nancy, for pointing out the obvious (obvious to us, a great mystery to the leftists who think “work” is a four letter word).

        KG, I worked 38 years of my life serving my country in the USAF and with NATO and paying into social security. What part of “paying into” do you not understand?

      • KG

        Why Vigilant, I’m surprised! Not are you only a closet Marxist, but a lifelong “Gubment” employee. So, why do you hate the very system you live off of? Do you fell guilty? I thought you didn’t believe in paying taxes?

        I had a friend who worked on Phantoms during Vietnam. He was a “grease monkey.” My uncle was stationed in Afghanistan during the 1950′s. He said they used to fly C-130′s towards Russia to probe their radar.

        My Grand-pa was a tail-gunner in a B-17. My father was in Force Recon Marines during Vietnam. But when it came time for MY generation to fight in a war, my SISTER WENT! She was a nurse in the Army. She spent almost 20 years, but she was injured jumping off of a deuce and a half.

        I wish you well, Mr. Vigilant. I hope that Social Security is there for your Grand kids as well as mine. That’s why I vote Democrat. Cheers!

      • eddie47d

        Phildeaux: KG did not say that and was referring to folks like you who advocate abolishing SS and letting the undertaker take care of the rest.

      • eddie47d

        Nancy and Vigilant: KG was referring to all the ridiculous cat calls against the Democrats for “being lazy and unemployed thieves” that gets said all the time. Obviously when it is turned around you all get defensive. As KG said, Thanks to Democrats most do have the opportunity for Social Security.

      • Vigilant

        KG says, “Why Vigilant, I’m surprised! Not are you only a closet Marxist, but a lifelong “Gubment” employee.”

        Why, KG, I’m not surprised at all that you didn’t serve your country! Sprinkling in your friends and relatives doesn’t accomplish anything but obfuscate the fact that you never served.

        God bless every one of your friends and relatives who served.

        Relegating military service to mere “Gubment employee” status shows your absolute insensitivity and ignorance. Every one of those friends and relatives you cited wrote out a blank check to this nation, payable up to and including death.

        Is that what you call your father, a mere “Gubment” employee?

        We used to say about our military service, “if you ain’t been there, then STFU.”

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Hey, eddie47d, I really don’t need you to explain someone else’s comment to me. My comment was supposed to be posted to his above comment where he said, “What patriot roots for the failure of our country?”. I could have sworn it was in the right place. I guess it moved. :-) Anyway, I want to comment on the stupid statement about how wonderful it is that “most of us have the opportunity for social security”. When Social Security was introduced, the people were overwhelmingly against it! They didn’t want it! They didn’t have any choice, just as WE had no choice! For my whole life I’ve been hearing that by the time I’m ready to retire, there won’t be any money left. Well, they were right! If the government had allowed ME to invest MY money as I wished, it wouldn’t be gone today! The government has STOLEN MY money!!! The people who were able to get theirs back? I’m happy for them! It was no gift from the government! It was THEIR money!!! Social Security was NEVER any more than a Ponzi scheme! Except that the government FORCED our participation!!! The government STOLE our money and spent it on other stuff! Now, the senators are going to their constituents to try and convince them that it’s a good idea to screw us on our social security. So, even though THEY forced us to participate, AND even though they PROMISED us we would get our money, AND even though they STOLE the money and spent it on other stuff, NOW they’re trying to say it will be OUR fault if the government goes BROKE!!! NOW, WE have to sacrifice to save our country! I SAY the bastards ought to give up THEIR retirement to make sure they keep their obligation to US!!! THEY stole it! THEY spent it! THEY should pay it back!!! It is no “entitlement”!!! It is a DEBT!!!! PAY UP!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        eddie47d, never mind about he comment being in the wrong place. I thought you were talking about another one. I have a good excuse, IIIIII’mmmmmmm sick! Seriously, I’m not operating at 100%. I’ve been sick for 8 days and have been on antibiotics for 6 days. They don’t seem to be working! I feel like sh*t!!! Sorry! My comment on social security stands! At least I think it does! :-)

      • KG

        I didn’t call being in the military a “government” job – by definition, it’s a gubment job! Unless you “served” in Iraq 2. Then you could be called a mercenary for exxon, shell, and haliburton.

        Face it , Mr. Viligant, you are no better than all of those “welfare queens” you guys complain about. A person in the military who is anti-government should NOT be in the military.

        I saw a brand new GMC pickup in the WalMart parking lot that had a sticker that said “USAIRFORCE-RETIRED”, and then right next to it was a “Don’t tread on me” TP sticker. And i thought to myself “There is a guy who benefited from the Government his whole life, and now he wants to destroy it. What a stupid SOB.”

      • Vigilant

        “And i thought to myself “There is a guy who benefited from the Government his whole life, and now he wants to destroy it. What a stupid SOB.”

        If all you see in a military veteran is someone “who benefited from the Government his whole life,” then there is no talking sense to you. And that veteran you mentioned does not want to destroy your liberties, he wants to prevent them from being taken away by government.

        YOU have benefited from the freedom insured by military people your whole life, yet have no sense of gratitude. PEOPLE HAVE DIED FOR YOU, you ungrateful bastard!

      • KG

        I’m not ungrateful. I respect anyone who has honorably served in our Armed Services. The dedication as well as the sacrifice that Veterans have displayed do not go unnoticed. However, I am aware of who “butters my bread.”

        In 2008, almost 120 construction workers died in Austin, Texas. They went to work that morning expecting to go home in the same shape that they got there. Maybe a little tired and dirty, but still have all of their parts. Most of these workers were working on non-union jobs for non-union contractors. These “patriot” business owners thought it would be a good idea to have unsafe working conditions. Who wants to spend money on a new ladder? The one you got is only missing a few rungs. And why should I spend a lot of money hiring a shoring contractor since you will only be in that hole for about 10 minutes? There is a reason why we have laws like OSHA and labor unions. To protect us from the “patriot” Bidness entrmanuers who only see dollar $igns. I’t these “casualties” i’m most passionate about. You are right when you say that people in the military have a “blank check” on their lives. But working people DO NOT AND SHOULD NOT. That’s why we still need labor unions in America.

        Solidarity Forever
        “Reward our friends, punish our enemies” Samuel Gompers – Founder of the CIO.

    • Vigilant

      “…the “criminals” who are ruining our country because they have the audacity to ask for their share of Americas [sic] prosperity that they helped build.”

      Those who continue to help build the nation, i.e., “the makers,” are not the criminals of which you speak.

      The criminals are the political leaders who foment class warfare and who create dependencies upon government to consolidate their power. The criminals have convinced those who are able but neither ready nor willing to work, that they have some magical entitlement to “their share” of the pie that they have done nothing to create.

      • http://personaliberty.com Travis

        I agree. In the real world taking money away from somebody is stealing. Why should we punish the people that work hard and get ahead in life. The idea that one can come to America with pennies in their pocket and excel is the American Dream. We shouldn’t demonize prosperity with a tax which is the same principle as punishment for the doers.

      • Shelia

        I see Mitt Romney must have spit you out of his womb

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Sheila-crude, rude and discussing! Still haven’t thought of anything intelligent to say yet? Really sad! Instead of making romney look bad, you make YOURSELF look bad!

      • Steve E

        Those people who want the government to take from one person and give it to another person should tell the government to stop stealing money from others to give to them, and should be man enough to just start stealing the money from others on their on. They aren’t man enough to rob someone and confront them face to face. They depend on government to rob it for them. What wimps.

      • momo

        Shiela, I doubt if Mitt Romney has a womb.

      • eddie47d

        No much of a conscience either! Then again he does have alot of ill gotten gain. LOL

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      KG,
      WE’RE not the ones rooting for the failure of our country, YOU are!!! YOU support the one who is destroying our country!!! WE’RE sounding the alarm!!!

      • Shelia

        Dear Nancy I do not have to do anything to make Robme look bad, he is doing that himself.

      • http://alsina846.wordpress.com Linda from NYC

        Well said Nancy, on your comment to KG

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Sheila, you’re a twit! Go read a book! You might learn something. Then you’d have something to say!

      • JeffH

        Nancy :) …please understand that you can’t fix stupid… :)

      • momo

        Shelia says:
        October 9, 2012 at 10:48 am
        Dear Nancy I do not have to do anything to make Robme look bad, he is doing that himself.

        He looked pretty good when he wiped the floor with Obama last week.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Shelia, you and your cronies just keep on talking bad about Romney. Your praises to O are having the opposite effect in that people are flocking to Romney. So in effect you are working for Romney. I am surprised that your handlers have not come to the same conclusion.

      • eddie47d

        Yes Nadzieja throughout history people flock to where the money is even if it means slavery and continued poverty. Most Kings in their castles were not kind to their subjects yet those kings had them by the nose. Romney is part and parcel of Wall Street and the casino gambling that goes on there. Obama has a few connections there too but nothing like the treasure chest that Romney took away. At least Obama kept his money in the USA and cares much more for us “serfs”.

      • OneGuess

        Nancy, you post that shelia is a “twit”; you are 75% correct…

      • JeffH

        eddie says “At least Obama kept his money in the USA and cares much more for us “serfs”.”

        ROFLMAO! Stupid is as stupid does.

        You know all of that for a fact? Don’t perjure yourself and answer that,

        Yeah, O’man loves foreign campaign contributions though doesn’t he…and he cares so much about you “serfs” that he’ll make every effort and use every tool in his arsenal to keep the “serfs” on the dole just for their votes.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        One Guess, why only 75%? She has never ONCE posted ANYTHING except slurs and insults! NEVER one Statement of FACT! No information AT ALL! She’s a shill, paid to make “hit and run” comments! if she EVER posts ANYTHING of substance, I’ll leave her alone! Otherwise, SHE’S A GNAT!!!

      • JeffH

        OneGuess, I know what you meant.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      you should add a B at the the end of your username…

      • 45caliber

        Really.

        But I suspect he left it off in an attempt to prevent us from knowing what he is really doing.

    • JohnC

      There are some that are saying that the numbers for unemployment were based on theoretical data obtained from the states and included Governmet jobs the states reported as having been created and part time jobs counted as full time jobs. Also the number of people counted as having jobs are those who do not have jobs but have just dropped off the unemployment rolls having given up looking The outlook is not as good as thought and if you use the correct numbers the ones before they began using the current number set U3, the U6 numbers you come out with an Unemployment rate of 14% and this would measure aproximately right based on several non – governmental sources.

      The reason is that Obama had to release something to show that his economic plan is working even if it is a a fabrication just like everything else he releases… numbers can be manipulated and it seems these were to try to bolster Obamas election hopes, seeing how badly he was outclassed by Romney in the debate……Do I believe his unemployment numbers …I would if i drank the cool aid …. Fortunately I have a mind to go and research from other sources and not take the government numbers on blind faith…I compare them with what I have seen out in the real world. And out in the real world his numbers do not add up

      • 45caliber

        I think it was Mark Twain who once stated: “There are lies, big lies, and statistics.”

        Also, “Statistics lie because liars use statistics.”

      • phideaux

        45, I believe the quote is “lies, dam.n lies and statistics.

      • eddie47d

        Yes and Romney hit the jackpot during the debate with his tall tales. I don’t think Obama knew how to respond to all his lies. Maybe we should call Romney’s lies TAFFY comments because he sure does stretch them out!

    • KG

      A canvas covered cabin in a crowded labour camp
      Stand out in this memory I revived;
      Cause my daddy raised a family there, with two hard working hands
      And tried to feed my mama’s hungry eyes.

      He dreamed of something better, and my mama’s faith was strong
      And us kids were just to young to realize
      That another class of people put us somewhere just below;
      One more reason for my mama’s hungry eyes.

      Mama never had the luxuries she wanted
      But it wasn’t cause my daddy didn’t try.
      She only wanted things she really needed;
      One more reason for my mama’s hungry eyes.

      I remember daddy praying for a better way of life
      But I don’t recall a change of any size;
      Just a little loss of courage, as their age began to show
      And more sadness in my mama’s hungry eyes.

      Mama never had the luxuries she wanted
      But it wasn’t cause my daddy didn’t try.
      She only wanted things she really needed;
      One more reason for my mama’s hungry eyes.

      Oh, I still recall my mama’s hungry eyes.

      • Sirian

        Well, isn’t this cute. . . Merle Haggard’s old song. Drag out the old lyrics and use them to your presumed advantage? OK, so what you want to whine about now?

      • 45caliber

        KG(B):

        You missed something in this song. Daddy was working as hard as he could. Today’s “daddies” will seldom even agknowledge their kids if they believe it might cost them some child support. I saw one of those you like to defend the other day in the newspapers. He was complaining because he had about 30 kids and the child support was so much he couldn’t run around with other women. I think the judge allowed the child support to be cut to about $1 a kid per month because he felt so sorry for the guy.

        I don’t have a bit of problem helping the guy in the song. I have a LOT of problem helping the man who won’t bother to try to support his family.

      • KG

        The problem is not that people on assistance are getting too much, it’s the rest of us working stiffs who aren’t getting ENOUGH. If someone works 40+ hours a week, and cannot afford basic necessities, something is wrong. Real wages in America haven’t gone up since the 70′s. Even the so-called “overpaid” union workers make lees than they did in 1979 when adjusted for inflation.

        Don’t think “they” are getting too much, think that you aren’t getting enough.

      • JeffH

        Tit for tat! Back at ya’!

        It’s a big job just gettin’ by with nine kids and a wife
        I been a workin’ man dang near all my life
        I’ll be working long as my two hands are fit to use
        I’ll drink my beer in a tavern,
        Sing a little bit of these working man blues

        I keep my nose on the grindstone, I work hard every day
        Might get a little tired on the weekend, after I draw my pay
        But I’ll go back workin, come Monday morning I’m right back with the crew
        I’ll drink a little beer that evening,
        Sing a little bit of these working man blues

        Hey hey, the working man, the working man like me
        I ain’t never been on welfare, that’s one place I won’t be
        Cause I’ll be working long as my two hands are fit to use
        I drink a little beer in a tavern
        Sing a little bit of these working man blues

      • JeffH

        KG, your lack of credibility is well established here…do you expect that your words are to be believed?

      • KG

        You mean i lack credibility on a right wing nazi website? Wow, that’s almost a complement.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear KG,

          You write: “You mean i lack credibility on a right wing nazi website?” That is an oxymoron. As I suggested to you last week, your education is lacking.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • eddie47d

        Jeff “sings” to the working man today but trashes them every other day. How quaint! Now that is twisted credibility!

      • Jibbs

        KG says:
        October 9, 2012 at 10:54 am
        The problem is not that people on assistance are getting too much, it’s the rest of us working stiffs who aren’t getting ENOUGH. If someone works 40+ hours a week, and cannot afford basic necessities, something is wrong. Real wages in America haven’t gone up since the 70′s. Even the so-called “overpaid” union workers make lees than they did in 1979 when adjusted for inflation.

        Don’t think “they” are getting too much, think that you aren’t getting enough.
        —————————————————————————————————————–
        Are you willing to pay $20.00 for the mickey’s D’s value me…..I’ll bet not.
        Almost 50% of people in the country getting tax payeer monie, thats a big problem, the government overspending, ever growing,, massive regulations, government selling guns to drug gangs in Mexico and South America,
        Holder not doing his job, liar in chief starting even more wars, all the lie’s they tell every time anyone from D.C. opens their mouth, an illegal so called Prseident and just plain out of control, thats just some of the main problems. The list of bs has no end!

      • JeffH

        eddie, if you couldn’t lie and make things up what in life would you have left to do?
        You continue posting ignorant and stupid comments and the rest of us will continue to laugh and make fun of your stupidity and ignorance.

      • eddie47d

        Your flip flopping on workers issues are rather well known. Anything to make yourself look good to your fellow comrades right Jeff. I saw through you quite some time ago . Even the Conservatives have a dark side and although you are not the ring leader you do make a good water boy.

    • 45caliber

      KG:

      I think people are more PO’d because they are forced to support lazy poor people who remain on welfare. (I know I am.) Probably because it costs them more than it does the rich ones. At least the rich can get part of their money from investments rather than from taxpayers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Sure KG, the dead out number the alive voters, along with the libs from Mexico, if he thought he would lose, he would have his islamic friends do some thing bad so he can declare marshall law and lock up the true American’s, you socialist, marxist people are good at hand outs instead of hand ups, how much do you get on welfare and food stamps?

      • eddie47d

        I see the FOX is trying to guard the Conservative hen house and all they get is chicken poop!

    • http://twitter.com/RobertdeLuna2 Robert de Luna (@RobertdeLuna2)

      Typical coolaid drinker, blame the rich. Blame the only people who can create jobs. Blame the successful people who stayed in school, stayed off drugs, went to college and studied, who invested their own money to open a business, who worked 80 hours a week for 15 years until finally they could afford to hire new employees. Blame the people who now after 20 years can finally reap the rewards of taking risk with their money and working their butts off. But then some lazy, worthless dope head wants to take their money eventhough they never worked a day in their lives. Sorry KG, you’ve got it all backwards.

      This is America, where those who work hard and do the right things make it big and get rich. But those who screw around fail. At least this is how it used to be. Now the Communists have taken over and they reward laziness and hate success. The Communist model sound great to the lazy, but it can’t work, never has and never will. Soon you run out of rich people, they either lose their money or move away and then nobody has any money, all we are left with is misery. This is what we see in the old USSR today. They had to turn to Capitalism to make their economies grow. But we have Communist Obama and a bunch of envious, greedy, lazy bums like you waiting for something free. Ain’t nothing free KG. You’re being fed a bunch of lies and empty hope with Obama. It’s time we join with the rich and make America grow again because as the Rich get richer, the more money we have. We might never get rich but we’ll have good jobs. With Obama we’ll have nothing, no money, no freedom, nothing.

      • eddie47d

        LUNAtic still doesn’t get it. The wealthy are rich beyond anyone immagination and they have paid themselves handsomely. Salaries for CEOs up 7-15%. Wages for average workers stagnant. Middle Class rapidly shrinking. Those same corporations and businesses have cut benefits to the bone leaving the Middle Class even further trashed. They quite often refuse to hire full time workers and have done so for about 30 years. Obama didn’t create that environment for it has been going on for a long time now. Keep workers under 40 hours and no benefits have to be paid out yet the CEOs become wealthier by the day. That is the America Republicans have pushed for and we now have that all over. No segment is untouched yet LUNAtic bites into that apple. Saying we have communism is foolish at best and more like Conservative Fascism controlling our economy from Wall Street.

    • Jibbs

      What about that greedy rich old bag Nancy Pelosie, and all those hotels that she owns, and yet she needs to steal tax payer monie from us from us and demanding the WE buy healthcare from the duberment.
      And what about the rich old fart Harry Ried, or the rich, can do no wrong Kenndy family, should I keep naming names? I don’t see any of the rich democ rats offering to pay higher taxes, but they think the rest of us should.

      And you think that 1+1=5

      You are a picture perfect poster child for government education at it’s best.

    • Robert Smith

      Form KG: “Thank you, Saint Ayn Rand for freeing us from the shackles of civilization. ”

      Not true. The problem is that the extreme right “translates” Ayn Rand like they do their version of the right wing christian bible babble.

      Ayn Rand’s theories are good ones and they are common sense. They are drawn as stark stick figures in her book to make her points.

      Rob

    • Patriot Navy

      One Dumb [offensive word removed]

    • http://yahoo gator

      you, like hussein, obviously hate AMERICAN’S and the AMERICAN way. when someone works hard and saves their money, they deserve to have their place in the sun, or wherever they choose.
      the big difference between you and hussein, is he is filthy rich without earning it and michelle is spending taxdollars like there was no tommorrow; while you sit on your fat ass collecting your welfare and foodstamps, and just want more of what you are NOT entitled to.
      just another rat, following the piper of ‘hope and change’ to the river of doom.

  • Dwight Mann

    Government lies, dont buy into it.
    Øbama is going to be defeated with the biggest margin of defeat ever. He is a communist, and just plain lazy. He has no leadership experience. Look where he has taken the US.

    • Ann Crawford

      Hopefully everyone has their “cheater goggles” on because he will go out kicking and screaming.

      • Shelia

        you mean Mitt Robme the biggest liar of the century

        • Ann Crawford

          It is interesting to take note of who engages in intelligent discussion and who name calls.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        You said it, Ann!!! She’s never once made an informed comment! Not once! She’s like a gnat, flitting around and annoying others. Of course, that’s her job!!! Maybe she’ll get a raise!

      • KG

        i gess Florida just isin’t that important.

    • Warrior

      I Too Have Become Disillusioned.

      By Matt Patterson (columnist – Washington Post, New York Post, San
      Francisco Examiner)

      Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack
      Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a
      baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the
      Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of
      professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could
      manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful
      military, execute the world’s most consequential job?

      Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life:
      ushered into and through the Ivy League, despite unremarkable grades
      and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community
      organizer;” a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative
      achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did
      he vote “present”); and finally an unaccomplished single term in the
      United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his
      presidential ambitions.

      He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature
      legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his
      troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher
      who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life,
      actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political
      sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all
      and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

      Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz
      addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be
      sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken
      hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist
      like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama
      was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberal Dom to have
      hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if
      they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama
      was given a pass – held to a lower standard – because of the color of
      his skin.

      Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history
      matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself
      had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance
      to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of
      racism to rest?

      Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the
      Obama phenomenon – affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of
      course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all
      affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily
      to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about
      themselves.

      Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat
      themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools
      for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the
      inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow.
      Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t
      around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self-esteem
      resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes,
      racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the
      color of his skin – that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if
      that isn’t racism, then nothing is.

      And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never
      troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many
      have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite
      undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough
      for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told
      he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the
      Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was
      good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the
      contrary.

      What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display
      every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked
      executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory
      skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people – conservatives
      included – ought now to be deeply embarrassed.

      The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when
      he has his Teleprompters in front of him; when the prompter is absent
      he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever
      issued from his mouth – it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that
      has failed over and over again for 100 years.

      And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and
      everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I
      inherited this mess. Remember, he wanted the job, campaigned for the
      task. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise
      his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But
      really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for
      anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

      In short: our president is a small-minded man, with neither the
      temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand
      that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of
      liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise
      with such a man in the Oval Office.

      Get to the polls and get these frauds out of our lives. “progressives” must go!

      • hpw3506

        Well said

      • melissa

        The best explanation of our this man ever became our “president”.

      • JohnC

        I am not embarrased …I did the research on him did not like what I saw …he was from Chicago strike 1, he supported abortion strike 2, he had no verifiable history in government and in my opinion wasnt even qulified to be a senator of Illinois. strike 3…and the clencher was how he obtained his office in Illinois …dirty deeds done dirt cheap…he uses smear tactics…so this election I again will vote for the Rebublican

      • KG

        So, who’s side is Karl Rove on? He is a fine example of a human being.

      • Dussty1

        Totally agree. Our affirmative action president’s wife is also a white-hating affirmative action promoter. They seem somewhat ashamed of America yet enjoy the perks of the White House. The country has been duped and all the world knows it.

      • http://yahoo gator

        yep, he’s a ‘post turtle’ elevated way beyond his capacity, by people without a clue, and now there’s nowhere to go but down.

      • “Homer”

        GOOG HIT MAN!!!

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    Both candidates are awful,period!! It’s already fixed for the incumbent to get re-elected. The only reason Obama went flat in that first debate and allowed Romney to win so the race could be made more interesting,nothing more and nothing less. These skewed job report numbers are the proof. The best thing is, as i mentioned a couple times before, vote for Gary Johnson-Libertarian. BTW, Mr. Mann, i hate to burst your bubble but you’re wrong. Look at this to prove my point-www.usaelectionpolls.com. Thanks!!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I don’t know Tony. I think “they” may have decided to switch to romney. Everybody’s love for obumass is showing cracks. First you’ve got the Libya thing. al quaida is a CIA created group, owned and operated by the CIA! So they attack the embassy and kill the ambassador and others right after the state dept. removes the security. Makes obumass look bad! Then romney beats obumass in the debate even though he never once told us how and what he’s going to do, just a lot of nice words. obumass just stands there like a moron. Now they’re leaking that obumass is breaking federal campaign laws by seeking donations from foreigners. Now the media is just starting to go after him. “They” control the media and have always protected obumass. All of a sudden we’re seeing chinks in his armor. They’re starting to critisize him and point out his failures. These are clues. Keep watching. I think this is the beginning of the end for obumass!

      • Shelia

        Dear Nancy, I also thing they are pointing out lies that Mr Romney tells. his armor is cracking to, and no I am not a gnat, I have a right to my opinion just like you.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Sheila, do you really “thing”(sic)? You are a gnat! You have no opinion. You just spout out crap! If you have an opinion, express it, explain it and back it with links! But no, you don’t have opinions, you have NOTHING but insults and name calling! You are hollow and annoying, like a gnat!!! Ask your bosses for a transfer to another web site! You’re not effective here, you’re only annoying!

      • Opal the Gem

        Nope Sheila you are not a gnat you are more loike the bug glub I scraped off my truck windshield before I went to the woods to hunt Muscadines yesterday.

      • eddie47d

        Lets see what Nancy has to say about Opal’s continuous unflattering comments?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        eddie47d, Opal says, bug glug! (?) I say gnat! No REAL difference! BOTH are equally annoying!!!

      • Opal the Gem

        “Lets see what Nancy has to say about Opal’s continuous unflattering comments?”

        Hey eddie, I learned all about making the so called “unflattering comments” by reading and taking lessons from your comments before I started posting.

      • eddie47d

        You first have to know how to think Opal and you lose in that department. Is there any relevant thoughts between your ears? Negative replies is not an endearing trait but I see you’ve made an exception for yourself.

      • Opal the Gem

        Like I said eddie I learned all I need know about making negative replies by reading your pointless negative replies.

  • Corkey

    Romney will change things for the better just like Obama changed things for the better when elected. The only change I see is that the GOP is now the “baby face” and the Dems are now the “heels” in this classic WWE set up.

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Corkey:
      My view exactly!! However, it’s fixed for the incumbent to get re-elected!!

  • Soundbiteme

    The only scarey part when they depart our White House will be a similarity to many forclosures across the country…the rats will steal anything not nailed down, and destroy anything that’s left! That, I’m afraid would be the BO MO! You KNOW it won’t be HIS fault for getting booted out the door. I suggest the Romney’s hire security to watch the country’s house! This will be worse than the Clinton’s minesweep exit!
    Note to Vigilint: STFU your stupidity is obviously beyond maximum thresholds…it’s overflowing!

    • JohnC

      I do remember when Bill Clinton left the white house….they even stole the dishes and from what was reported the White house itself was left trashed …just like when a bad tennent leaves a retal property…we have that to look forward to when Obama leaves …I have heard he is going to a luxury mansion in Hawaii …. my hope is that he truely goes there but maybe he will declare martial law and never leave ….

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        I’m with you JohnC, this dictator-in-chief will find away to stay in power to feed his ego that is as big as the grand canyon. He only loves one thing, Himself.

      • eddie47d

        Hey B…F…! That is my line about Romney. Now pay up!

      • Opal the Gem

        eddie nothing is due you because you stole the line from another poster.

      • eddie47d

        I used that line two days ago Opal so go take a hike. Apparently you don’t understand humor either.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        First you have to be humorous.

  • cerebus23

    since when is this news? the fed have been “fudging” data for decades now, both republican and democrats, more often on the “war on drugs” which they have jiggered the numbers across party lines to make it seem like they are actually doing something in the war on drugs and not just spending tons and tons of money and accomplishing nothing what so ever.

    job numbers they often cheery pick data to make the number look better than they are.

    budget numbers they pick the low end of the spending estimates, which 90% time are utter fantasy so you get way more spending per program that they ever tell you.

    government faking numbers? gasp i will try to contain my utter shock and dismay.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      cerebus23, I agree with you! Anybody who gives stock to any of these numbers is a fool! In fact I’ll go so far as to say, don’t believe anything the government tells you.

      • Dennis Phelps

        I haven’t believed any thing they say ever since they sent me to Viet Nam.
        Seen the truth about it long ago!!

  • Kathy

    I am so amazed at the level of dishonesty that this administration has stooped to. The people are so confused by the cheating and lying going on that no one knows the truth. It should be up to the journalists and media to decipher what is real and what is fake. This story for example, everyone that is paying attention knows it’s hogwash and the numbers have been cooked to look good for Obama. There are alot of people out there to busy with keeping their own heads above water that they don’t know the real facts. The only thing I hear is, if you call liberals out on their lies you are an awful person or a racist or you don’t care about women or the poor, etc… The fact of the matter is we have a liar in chief in the WH and if we don’t wake up before Nov. we won’t recognize our country.

    • http://liberty Tony

      To Kathy:
      Look, we have to be honest. Both candidates stink to high heaven. Forgiven me for using such analogies but lets face the facts. Romney , in particular, has stated that he looks down on the common person such as you and i. Statements like “47-49%” of the people are either “moochers,freeloaders, and want entitlements”, ” i’m not too concerned about the poor or working class for they have the social safety net” plus “everyday citizens should congratulate with deify the wealthy”. Those are some arrogant, coldhearted, and pretentious sayings. In essence, that constitutes at best inndifference to at worst contempt for the everyday hard working citizens. The late William F.Buckley along with the late Jack Kemp had warned the GOP/conservatives of such contemptous attitudes. Now, the chickens are coming home to roost. As suggested in a earlier post oo this article, best thing to do is vote for the Libertarian candidate- Gary Johnson to make are voices be heard loud and clear. Thanks!!

      • Ted G

        Can you drop the propaganda Tony and provide something of substance please…this 47% BS is grasping at straws…oh crap just never mind.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To TedG:
        The facts are the facts. Please read and absorb. Farewell!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        How magnanimous of you to include the Republicans in the muddy political pool the Dems/Leftists created.
        The only reason that RINOs exist because the Dems/Leftists could not be honest to win elections so they had to lie and call themselves Republicans, as in being wolves in sheep’s skins. The Dems/Leftists don’t tell that for a wolf to wear a sheep skin the sheep have to be killed and there is the smell of death about it.
        It appears that the Dems/Leftists may be cunning like the predators and persistant but they are not too bright hence the same answers have to be repeated and repeated to them.

      • Ted G

        No sir, Tony, I watched and heard the same words as you did, its just the intent the context and the meanings behind them that you dishonestly attached, that is the propaganda of which I speak. Those are not facts.

        All you have done here is to help prop up a failed bumber sticker, that you incorrectly think is some grand gotcha. Will it have some traction to the uninformed masses, well yea probably some. But for you who I assume is trying to represent yourself as politically savy and knowledgeable this is simply dishonest and rather slimy.
        But then the Obama campaign has done the same thing so, what else can a sycophant do eh!

    • eddie47d

      How were they “cooked” Kathy and please come up with a plausible answer not the usual “just because you don’t like Obama”. Also the media (yes the main stream media and even these newer outlets have been exposing events since the invention of TV. It has all been there in black and white and now in living color. Everyone has a book out declaring that their side is right and the other side is wrong and they are EVERYWHERE. Maybe it is information overload that is confusing you and muddling your mind. You don’t really care about facts for if you did you would tar and feather Rush Limbaugh,Mitch McConnell,Glenn Beck,Michelle Malkin and any other pundit who lies and distorts the truth. Until you can do that then you are being dishonest with yourself. You have taken sides and your mind is closed like a steel trap in searching for the real truth. Yes both Romney and Obama have their spin doctors but neither have control over those NLRB’s figures.

      • JohnC

        there are no numbers from the NLRB they are from the BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics) the numbers are cooked based on this…(1)theoretical numbers given by the states that indicate theoretical jobs created by govenments… (2) part time jobs being counted as full time jobs and (3) the reported number is the U3 – if you use the U6 you get the result of 14% unemployment

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        The commie, marxist eddie47dead brain speaks again, would have voted for Hitler in his day, the robots are programed as obozo wants them to be. LOL

      • eddie47d

        Sorry to disappoint you B…F…! (that doesn’t stand for best friend either so think hard). Listening to your rants I strongly believe you would have been the ones shouting Sieg Heil! Your right wing buddy Hitler was a douche just like you!

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “The only thing I hear is, if you call liberals out on their lies you are an awful person or a racist or you don’t care about women or the poor, etc”

      It depends on how it is done. If you use bigoted language then, of course, you are going to be called bigoted, or racist. If you don’t use that language, then you won’t be accused of it. If you are being accused of something fairly regularly, it’s probably because it’s true, and you might want to look into what is actually going on inside you that is causing it.

      • eddie47d

        Since race is brought up all the time from Conservatives on this site then if the shoe fits wear it!

  • godhelpus

    Maybe they should print the real numbers. How many people are not counted because they just stopped looking? Another lie printed by the Media. Go figure.

    • JohnC

      They do print them but they are hardly ever mentioned becuse they report the true state of the unemployment currently 14% the good news it is down from the high point of 18% but still the number is not a good number….. Maybe they used the U3 numbers so as not to panic the public when it reached almost great depression levels but the real number to llook at is the U6 number released by the BLS it gives you a true perspective on the unemployment rate

      • Nancy in Nebraska
      • JohnC

        I amu using the u6 numbers by the BLS showing 14% I do appriciate the graph you have shown…but that would also indicate we had a depression not a recession being that the Great depression reached 20-25% levels

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        John C, yup! A lot of economists have been saying that we ARE in a depression and that government is just lying to us so that there won’t be panics and runs on the banks!

    • 45caliber

      They print only two numbers:

      1. They list ONLY those who draw unemployment. Once they go off unemployment (because it ran out) they no longer count them.

      2. They list the number of new people who go on unemployment. If it is less than the previous month(s) they insist it is because the economy is turning around – and never mention it might be because no one is left to lay off.

      3. They assume that those leaving unemployment are ALWAYS getting a job even if they have run out of payments. This may because they assume those people can’t live without help or without working. But … if that was the real case, why do they continue to give unemployment? Why not just cut off everyone from unemployment immediately and also cut off all those on welfare immediately? If those leaving unemployment get immediate work, then the rest should be able to do the same – right?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      The way that these numbers are figured out have not been changed in decades. Pretending that, after all this time, that the numbers are cooked, because you don’t like or agree with them is simply dishonest.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear tigeer,

        You write: “The way that these numbers are figured out have not been changed in decades.” You are simply wrong.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          What is it you believe that I am wrong about?

          This is from the SSA.gov site:

          “The purpose of the COLA is to ensure that the purchasing power of Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits is not eroded by inflation. It is based on the percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index for Urban Wage Earners and Clerical Workers (CPI-W) from the third quarter of the last year a COLA was determined to the third quarter of the current year. If there is no increase, there can be no COLA. ”

          “How long has Social Security had COLAs?
          Congress enacted the COLA provision as part of the 1972 Social Security Amendments, and automatic annual COLAs began in 1975. Before that, benefits were increased only when Congress enacted special legislation.”

          A decade is 10 years. If this goes back to the 1975 automatic annual COLA’s, then it is almost 4 decades.

          Plus, while the President does sign the bill, he cannot increase the COLA amount and cannot decrease the COLA amount.

          • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

            Dear tlgeer,

            You write: “What is it you believe that I am wrong about?” Saying the numbers are not changed. I deal with that in my Monday column.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

      • eddie47d

        We all know Bob can come up with a better than that.

      • phideaux

        tlgeer the discussion is about the unemployment rate not the Social Security COLA. Do try to keep up old chap, makes for much more intelligent comments.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Yeah, but he’s still wrong about COLAs too!

  • Karolyn

    I won’t debate whether the stats are skewed or not. I prefer to believe they are true. However, my point is, and has always been, that we should seek and focus on any good news we hear. All that is done by pointing our inadequacies and failures is promoting more inadequacies and failures. You people just don’t get it. Take for instance you are in bad shape financially. All you do is moan and groan about how bad you have it. It gets worse and is compounded, leading to disaster. On the other hand, if you are in bad shape but focus on all the abundance in your life and are grateful for everything you do have, your abundance will grow. Of course, I know I will be called names and likened to any manner of animal or vegetable. However, I know that this works. Think about it on a global level. The more people focus on what good exists, the more good will grow. There IS strength in numbers. The more positive energy expended, the more positive outcome. “As ye think, so shall ye be.” It is so sad that people in general love to complain so much and bitch about others, because that only leads to more to bitch and complain about. Why does bad news sell so well?

    • Warrior

      Karolyn, I agree, so the regime really should stop creating their fictitious wars, on women, minorities, the rich and every other divisive cause they can conjure up. It’s dispicable and disgusting.

      • Karolyn

        It’s not just the “regime” Warrior. They all do it when it fits with their agenda.

    • rb

      Well said…

    • eddie47d

      Yes Warrior Rush Limbaugh and company should sincerely stop THEIR war on women,minorities,gays,immigrants and stop being so darn decisive. Yes it is despicable and disgusting!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        C’mon, eddie, go for the facts! Personal attacks do nothing to educate and inform!

      • momo

        Gee…eddie47d, I thought you were against insulting people…hmmm

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Eddie? which group do you belong to? You a women in drag? Are you a homosexual? Seems you fit somewhere in one of your groups you think Rush is down on?

      • Karolyn

        Benjamin – Is that supposed to be an insult to eddie? Just because somebody stands behind homosexuals and women means he/she is one? Those of us who accept people for exactly who or what they are are just tolerant human beings who support their rights.

      • eddie47d

        Its very telling when Nancy and MOMO didn’t go after Warrior for his personal attack. No points for either of you now go back to the end of the line! Please go back and address the original “attacker” and stop showing your bias.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        eddie47d, you’re right! I was biased! It just sounded dumber coming from you! Sorry!

    • 45caliber

      Karolyn:

      You are the original Pollyanna. Still, I much prefer to hear from people who are certain that everything is on the up and up rather than those who constantly insist that those of us who aren’t so sure are stupid. Keep up your beliefs; Pollyanna was right occasionally.

      • Karolyn

        My beliefs ain’t goin’ nowhere, 45. It’s a great way to be! :-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      We can’t even pay the interest on the 16 trillion dollars, and the rest of the world will go as does the U.S. soon to come, cashless society, and then the government owns you and you will do their will or die, it’s that simple, dreams aren’t facts.

    • alpha-lemming

      You’ve gotten your wish…… the 7.8% number IS concentrating on the good…. never mind that it’s really half of the U3 or U6. They’re touting 7.8% now…. and they’ll ignore or bury the revised upwards correction numbers which happens EVERY time. May or may not affect the unemployment percentage…. still always revised upwards. Usually released late on a Friday when they think no one is looking.

  • Tom Cook

    Great column, Ben. My fear is that the “takers”, “47%, worthless shiftless mindless heartless trash squatting in our country outnumber we Americans.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Food stamps have increased during this clown-in-chief, those who get them and welfare or the 47% will vote for there free gifts at others expense.

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “Food stamps have increased during this clown-in-chief, those who get them and welfare or the 47% will vote for there free gifts at others expense.”

        Food stamps have increased because of the high rate of unemployment. Unemployment had been in a rise since mid-2007 without a break. Of course it was going to go higher. That is just common sense. Unemployment figures are always lagging behind either a downturn or an upturn. Foot stamps are based upon the amount of people in the household and what income they have.

        As for welfare (TANF), there is a lifetime 5 year maximum to receive it. IOW, your argument is not based on facts.

      • Jibbs

        tlgeer says:
        October 9, 2012 at 3:50 pm
        As for welfare (TANF), there is a lifetime 5 year maximum to receive it. IOW, your argument is not based on facts.
        —————————————————————————————————————–

        You may want to do some more research, I wouldt buy that bs if I had fresh printed, U.S. issued three dollar bill.

  • http://YAHOO! TIM B

    GOD HAVE MERCY ON THE USA IF THEY VOTE OBOMINATION IN AGAIN ! GET READY PEOPLE FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF PURE HELL AND WEFARE !! YES YOU WILL SEE TIMES WORSE, IF YOU VOTE OBUMMER IN THEN YOU DESERVE ALL COMING TO YOU !!! LORD HELP US !! KG MUST ALREADY HAVE HIS OBUMMERS WELFARE MONEY IN HIS POCKET ??? DAM !!! WISH I DID !!

    • Shelia

      God have mercy on all of us if Mitt Robme get in there

      • http://yahoo bob peters

        Shelia,you ignorant…Quit being a parrot repeating what your MSNBC poisons your adolescent mind with…After the election you can crawl back in your closet with the rest of your Pendejos and whine ..

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        It’s her job, Bob!

      • Dennis Phelps

        Wow! Shelia
        What have you done that you will be asking for mercy?

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Shelia, God is going to judge this nation that has turned from Him. No blessing coming any time soon. God always gives a nation a immoral leader when He is going to judge it, the reason for your little god man obozo.

      • JeffH

        Shelia. I’m guessing you say that because you are more concerned that you just might lose your spot at the trough and be forced to work for a living.

      • eddie47d

        Is that another one of your “pet stupid” tricks Jeff? Saying someone isn’t working when you don’t have a clue . Lie much!

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        Even if Mitt is elected, there are only a few things that, as a President, he can do. And there is even more that he cannot do. Among the things that he cannot do is repeal the ACA without 2/3 of Congress backing him.

        Candidates make all kinds of promises, knowing that they cannot just arbitrarily complete them. This happens every election, and not just the last few.

        The fact is that Mitt knows, very well, that cutting the budget means cutting jobs. I’ve seen so many people yelling about high unemployment in the last 4 years. Will they still be yelling if Romney does the budget cuts that will raise unemployment by quite a lot? Or will they settle down and say “well, it’s Romney. He knows what he is doing.”? If they do, they are hypocrites.

        As a business-man, as well as having been a Governor, he knows very well that a company and a government are run differently. Very differently. Even a state and federal Government are run differently from each other.

        Here are some facts:
        -Unemployment levels in our country are lower than almost every other country. That’s not saying that it’s not tough on the people who are unemployed.

        -When we decreased taxes, while increasing our debt, we got into huge problems. The only thing, at this point, is to increase our taxes to a good level. (BTW, this country, and it’s company’s, are at the lowest tax rates they have been in for years. So, raising taxes is NOT going to make our country worse, or plunge it into debt or kill it)

        -Get people working. This whole country has been complaining about our infrastructure decaying and causing untold amounts of problems. So have people, company’s, bid on infrastructure jobs. Make it that, in order to bid, they have to be US based and use US Citizens. Make it that the majority of materials used in the job be US made. Make the payments of jobs awarded be based on completion rather than automatic payments. Make it that ALL jobs awarded are to be part of the SSA system. What is paid back in taxes by those employed will/should equal the monies spent on the jobs.

        -Once our deficit level has evened out, then, and only then, can we take steps to lower our budget. If we try to do so beforehand we will be putting more people on unemployment, more people needing (not just wanting) the safety net services, and will make it much more difficult to get out of debt.

      • Opal the Gem

        “Even if Mitt is elected, there are only a few things that, as a President, he can do.”

        All he has to do is copy obama and issue an executive order stating the law cannot/will not be enforced.

      • Vigilant

        Tigeer is wrong on so many counts, it’s hard to know where to begin. Let’s take then sequentially:

        “Even if Mitt is elected, there are only a few things that, as a President, he can do. And there is even more that he cannot do. Among the things that he cannot do is repeal the ACA without 2/3 of Congress backing him.”

        Absolutely, irrevocably wrong. Repeal would require only a majority of both houses. Budget reconciliation procedures could be used in the Senate if the Republicans don’t have a filibuster-proof majority.

        “The fact is that Mitt knows, very well, that cutting the budget means cutting jobs. I’ve seen so many people yelling about high unemployment in the last 4 years. Will they still be yelling if Romney does the budget cuts that will raise unemployment by quite a lot? Or will they settle down and say “well, it’s Romney. He knows what he is doing.”? If they do, they are hypocrites.”

        Explain how a budget cut kills jobs. It works just the opposite. Cuts with concomitant tax relief leave taxpayers (consumers) with more disposable income, while freeing up money for capital investment.

        “As a business-man, as well as having been a Governor, he knows very well that a company and a government are run differently. Very differently. Even a state and federal Government are run differently from each other.”

        What’s that got to do with anything?

        “Here are some facts:

        “-Unemployment levels in our country are lower than almost every other country. That’s not saying that it’s not tough on the people who are unemployed.”

        No sh*t, Sherlock. Tell that to the 11+% who are unemployed, underemployed or have given up looking. Comparing our unemployment rate to other countries is apples and oranges.

        “-When we decreased taxes, while increasing our debt, we got into huge problems. The only thing, at this point, is to increase our taxes to a good level. (BTW, this country, and it’s company’s, are at the lowest tax rates they have been in for years. So, raising taxes is NOT going to make our country worse, or plunge it into debt or kill it).”

        Typical socialist palaver. A tax increase to 100% of all income earned in this country wouldn’t make a dent in the national debt. You can thank Obama for the record-setting increase to our debt obligations, and being the shepherd in charge of a creditworthiness reduction for the first time in US history. It ain’t the tax rate, it’s the spending rate.

        “( BTW, this country, and it’s company’s [sic], are at the lowest tax rates they have been in for years. So, raising taxes is NOT going to make our country worse, or plunge it into debt or kill it).”

        Again, wrong. The corporate income tax rate is the second highest amongst industrialized nations. Get off your duff and check the facts before you blather. Moreover, the trillions of bucks that businesses have setting on the sidelines is there for one major reason: the prospect of tax increases and further regulatory discouragements to creating small business ventures.

        “-Get people working. This whole country has been complaining about our infrastructure decaying and causing untold amounts of problems.”

        You need to ask Obama about all those “shovel-ready” projects that either dried up or were not run by his cronies, so were left hanging out to dry.

        “Make the payments of jobs awarded be based on completion rather than automatic payments.”

        You know exceptionally little about the procuremnt processes involved in major project funding. Virtually no one operates such projects as you propose, and projects would halt in the absence of progress payments to vendors.

        “Make it that ALL jobs awarded are to be part of the SSA system. What is paid back in taxes by those employed will/should equal the monies spent on the jobs.”

        So you want to continue robbing the SS “Trust” fund? Moreover, your voodoo economics is startling: who is spending money on those jobs? If it’s government, then the best that can be hoped for is a break even situation. It would be budget neutral, improving nothing in the debt arena. And when the project went away, so would the employment and tax revenues therefrom.

        “-Once our deficit level has evened out, then, and only then, can we take steps to lower our budget.”

        That statement makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. Budget deficits INCREASE debt by definition. A deficit Is a deficit. “Evened out” deficits still add to the debt. Your other-world math says that we must spend our way out of debt, an oxymoron.

        “If we try to do so beforehand we will be putting more people on unemployment, more people needing (not just wanting) the safety net services, and will make it much more difficult to get out of debt.”

        Government does not create jobs; the private sector creates jobs. Government job “creation” only increases taxpayer liabilities and/or results in higher deficits and debt.

    • 45caliber

      Tim:

      If you do have to apply for welfare, be sure to use the shoe polish first!

      • Jibbs

        HIGH FIVE!!!

  • Dussty1

    These September jobs report numbers are about as believable as the Bengazhi attack being caused by the video on YouTube. The Obama Administration will continue to try to play the American People for fools as long as they think they can get away with it.

    • JohnC

      are you serious the attack wasn´t caused by the video OMG now I don´t know what to belive…lol

  • Paul Wells

    To all you Libertarians who will vote for Paul or Johnson:
    You surely must realize that poor polling numbers in primaries will surely equate to poor numbers in the general election. You may not like having to hold your nose and voting for Romney, but to vote otherwise is SURELY and certainly to give 0′bumble a vote by taking it away from Romney. Look, he isn’t candidate charming, I’ll give you that, but he will create a damned sight more jobs than 0′Huckster will!

    • JohnC

      I am seriously not sure Romney will be able to turn this around an immense amount of damage has been done, serious damage to the constitution, serious damage to the states rights, serious damage to our personal freedom. The damage to GM is permanent the unions now control that company and I Have seen what union management has done to companies…GM should have been allowed to go bankrupt according to existing bankruptcy laws they would have come back leaner and stronger…the fact is government should not be in the business of running businesses they don´t have the knowledge as most who are in government never really ran a business and they try to manage it based on committe or panel of so called (experts) It is my hope that Romney can turn this around and I pray to god that he does…but right now it will take a miracle to fix the problems…and that is best left in God´s hands

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I don’t give a rat’s behind about GM! They make crappy cars and they don’t stand behind them! They SHOULD go out of business! You can’t force people to buy inferior goods! Not to mention that none of us should care what happens to GM! 8 out of 10 of their jobs are in China! I don’t feel the need to help China!

      • Ted Crawford

        You mention the immense amount of damage done, while I agree, what concerns me even more is the damage that might be done during the coming “Lame Duck” Congress! Regardless of the outcome!

      • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

        “GM should have been allowed to go bankrupt”

        The reason that it wasn’t even a valid idea is that to do so would have put millions more people out of work, when the numbers were doing too much damage to this country as it was.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Yeah, tigeer! Millions of CHINESE people!!!

  • Chris

    Yeah Karolyn………..this retiree is “trying” to focus on more money in my pocket, but Obama stifled my cost-of-living increase for the THIRD year now, AND I see no city, state, or federal governments stifling taxes PLUS the cost of everything is going up…….THAT’s what “I” have to “focus” on……….some “abundance”.

    • eddie47d

      When Reagan was President he shuffled taxes around. They went from the Federal Government to the State Governments. Romney said he will do the same. Now that all sounds good but in reality the taxes remained the same for they were moved around like a shell game. If you think you didn’t get a fair shake in the last 4 years don’t look for any changes whether Obama is reelected or Romney gets in for you will still be the pawn.

    • Karolyn

      There are millions of people in the same condition. Several years ago, I had NO income other than a few dollars made from selling at a flea market and on ebay. I focused on what I had and on what I could do and the fact that I KNEW I would be OK. Guess what? Everything did work out OK. I’m still here and not homeless. I don’t have a lot, but I know I could have more if I really wanted. Take the time to read some stories about people rising from being homeless to being millionaires. They didn’t get there by complaining about how much they didn’t have!

      • Ted Crawford

        Nor Karolyn, did they get there by accepting inaccurate information, neither “Pie in the Sky” nor overly pessimistic. I hold no degree in either Accounting or Mathemetics. However I can observe and deduce. Several times during these past four years the Employment numbers have taken jumps, one of 201,000, & one of 168,000, for example. The needle either did not move at all or moved by .01 %! Now, with less than a month to go before the election and after a setback for Obama, a healthy but modest move of 114,000, LAUNCHES the needle by.03%. As Mr. Obama is so fond of saying ” It’s math, Arithmetic”

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Obama stifled my cost-of-living increase for the THIRD year now”

      If you are on one of the SSA programs this is not true. Our COLA went up last year, after two years of it not going up. But that wasn’t because of Obama. That was because of the formula for deciding a COLA, that was worked out decades ago.

      BTW, for the two years that SSA recipients did not get a COLA raise, Congress voted to forgo theirs, too (it’s calculated differently).

  • chiefcookandbottlewasher

    Socialism (or “sharing the wealth”) does not work no matter how many times it is attempted to be “sold” to the little guy who does not have any. The reality of Socialism is that there are still the elite (of which our President is one) and there will still always be the poor. What it removes is the middle classes. Socialism is an idealistic view and a government that in practice with real humans simply does not work. We are just not set up to all live together in peace and harmony and all share. If you want to live in a fantasy world then keep “hope” going but this just does not work. Look at history. Look at our present. Reality numbers for our unemployment simply cannot be read by how many claims there are because many have stopped claiming and some are in very underpaid parttime jobs. When Clinton was President cannot be compared to this time except for unflatteringly to this time…

    • eddie47d

      If you are saying humans aren’t meant to get along or cooperate with each other then you must be on the side of the dog eat dog world and may the person with the most toys wins crowd. Where you take from others through war and conflict because they must be lesser than you. If you win that makes you important in life and the person that doesn’t have as much deserves to be taken advantage of or even killed. Apparently there is no peace and harmony for you and an unfair society rules your life. Your thinking has been around since the beginning of man and hasn’t served mankind very well. You are just another bully on the block.

      • Karolyn

        How true, Eddie. I recently saw a post on Facebook that said if all children were taught to meditate, we would have peace and equality in the world. I believe the quote came from the Dalai Lama. We are not born to be greedy and evil. Unfortunately, people just go along with what is commonplace in society.

      • alpha-lemming

        No man is an island, and people are social creatures…..

        The lefts over-whelming, all encompassing character flaw is…??? I don’t know any other way to say it other than they’d like to repeal the “Freedom of Association”. “We’ll tell you whom to allow in your ranks, and how to think correctly because your percieved notions of honor, morality, truthfulness, responsibility, performance, endeavor, and personality as measuring sticks to gauge those worthy of your company and charity is clearly discriminatory”. Stated another way…. you’re just POed because we don’t want to “swim in the sewer” with you…

        Oh the horrors !!!! If we could choose our associations…???? why people may actually shun NAMBLA, you wouldn’t be forced to call the alt-lifestylers married, accordian and kazoo players would be under-represented in the Boston Philharmonic and Metallica, and left-handed, Korean, female, transvestite, midgets could never realize their life-long dream of playing in the NBA……

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Eddie still putting out his propaganda, I can see his right arm raised to his little hitler even now. What eddie means is our way or the high way. Get along? Wow, tell the left wing nut jobs that said they were going to murder a family if they put up their Romney sign again. They the left are the real terrorist but, throwing stones from a glass house is as stupid as they seem to be.

      • eddie47d

        Nice to see you come up from out of your Gestapo dungeon Bu.. Fu..! Either that or you have been eating too many arsenic laced chicken wings. Which would make you a chicken S…!

    • JohnC

      The only way scocialism will work is if Jesus institutes it as his government on earth because at that point it will truely be fair and just …to have it implemented by man only leads to corruption as it is in mans heart to be unjust and man will never implement the government of God on the earth …this only Jesus can do…

      • Paul Wells

        JohnC, you just said a mouthful, and it was the absolute truth. Socialism, as implemented by man, will only be an unachievable ideal, because as you stated, man will always try to get more for less, it’s his sinful nature. Keep speaking the truth, my friend!

  • suzanne

    If the unemployment rate truly goes down, then so would the number of those on welfare and foodstamps. Now that didn’t happen, did it? Didn’t think so. Their lies reveal themselves. Very sad that more “Americans”, don’t realize the error of this administration.

    • eddie47d

      The numbers of those on food stamps are well known. Much of that is from underemployment and part time jobs. Who demanded those part time jobs and loss of benefits is the question you should be asking . It was America’s business folks and corporations which downgraded the American worker. They deliberately lowered the 40 hour work week and the wage scale within their companies. They took away pensions which depleted the savings of those workers. People made less and had to rely on other sources in order to survive thus they turned to food stamps. These changes came several years ago so laying the low paid part time workers on Obama is not only wrong but insensitive to the plight of those workers. Considering the present day greed that corporations have amassed and outrageous CEO salaries while the Middle Class languishes then you can see where the problem lies. The Elites own you lock stock and barrel and if this continues there will be even more folks on food stamps.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I agree with you, eddie47d! But now the question remains, what are we gonna do about it? The people who ARE working full time cannot afford to subsidize the others indefinitely! It’s doubtful that the government will act upon the big corporations because they are “owned” by them! People always think that “the government” can give everybody what they need. The problem is that the government doesn’t have any money except that which they TAKE from the people! The people are being squeezed! And for those of you who say, we need to raise taxes on the rich, just let me say, it ain’t gonna happen!!! The democrats are safe “saying” they want to raise taxes on the rich because they KNOW that the republicans won’t let them actually do it! It’s all for show! They are ALL owned and controlled by the rich!!!it doesn’t matter what they SAY, it’s what they DO that counts!!! I guarantee you that if we ever DO see a tax increase for the rich, there will be corresponding deductions so that they don’t pay any more than they already do!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Eddie, why should big business create jobs when the left is about to tax them into a trash bin? They are being robbed to give hand outs to the left wing lazy, non productive idiots that would vote for a marxist.

      • eddie47d

        You are correct Nancy and Benjamin (BF) is the same old obnoxious self. There has been no increased tax on the wealthy B…F… so why don’t you wail about it when it actually happens. What you said is a false assumption not a fact. What is a fact is that the rich have become wealthier while under Obama yet they are not providing jobs as was promised by the Republicans . Remember what they and other Republicans say that if they have the assets they will put it back into the economy. Apparently they lie through the teeth for that isn’t being done. Taxes have even been low for several years now so maybe we should raise taxes and teach them a lesson.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Oh, eddie47d, don’t tell me that you’ve fallen for the stupid stereotype that all rich people are republicraps! There are LOTS of rich democraps too! They don’t pay any more than the republicraps! The ONLY one I know who wants to pay more is warren buffet. And congress gave him a way to pay more if he wants to! Bet he won’t! You’re getting tripped up in the false paradigm of the republicraps and the democraps. They’re all the same! They all want to keep a much money as they can. They don’t care about anybody else and they OWN the politicians! BOTH the republicraps AND the democraps!!! Pull the wool OFF of your eyes!

  • Richard Geik

    If anyone believes anything that comes out of this White House is crazy. I think the actual rate is more like 18 to 20 percent. How the CBO gets there info is crazy, half of it come from phone interviews, in a world of technology they call people. If any jobs were created they are part time and come with no benefits. I think this report should be investigated fast and the truth be brought out, not in two weeks when they will slip in there adjusted report. I am so sick of the lies coming out of the White House as all Americans should be. This is nothing more than Chicago politics at its best. David Axelrod came out of the womb living not crying

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    So KG has it all sorted and everyone else is an idiot. Well KG maybe Obama will win but the USA is going to lose big time, so you can feel free to comiserate with him when the [expletive deleted] hits the fan and together lay the blame anywhere you like, but maybe just look in the mirror to see where the fault may lie. Your hero worship is sadly misguided.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “maybe Obama will win but the USA is going to lose big time”

      That is your opinion. Nothing else.

      • http://YAHOO! TIM B

        TIGEER !! LOOKS LIKE YOU ENJOYED YOUR LAST FEW YEARS WITH OBAMANATION AND HIS CRONIES , HOPE YOU ENJOY THE NEXT BECAUSE IF HE GETS IN YOU WILL BE LIKE THE REST OF US TRYING TO SURVIVE FOR OUR GRAND CHILDREN AND THERE GRAND CHILDREN !! OH YEA YOU KNOW WHATS UP ? YOU GOTTA BE ONE OF THE ONE,S ON HIS PAROLE ?? HA !! HA !!! HOPE YOU ENJOY KISSING HIS REAR !! WE ALL WILL PERISH TOGETHER WITH HIM BORROWING FROM CHINA EVERY WEEK !!! MAYBE HIS GOV CHECK WILL KEEP CHINA OFF HIS REAR !! HE !! HE !!

      • eddie47d

        The China trade imbalance started at the end of Nixon’s term and escalated under Reagan. From there it went up fast under Bush/Clinton/Bush. Some of you have such short memories. I bet Obama’s been blamed for that bad batch of chocolate chip cookies you put in the oven last night! LOL!

        • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

          I agree.

          I remember Nixon and China. Most people thought it was a good job of Nixon’s. I still think so.

  • Chris

    Hey…………maybe we should all take “this” to be happy………you’ll need it after reading the government cost:

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/08/14299261-military-suicides-defense-officials-spending-10-million-to-learn-if-fish-oil-can-help?lite

    • eddie47d

      Fish oil/Omega 3′s are proven to be good for the body and mind. I doubt if few soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan are eating much fish so there could be value in that report. A healthy body can indeed help you have a healthy outlook in your mind. Now Chris what are you personally doing to help suicidal soldiers?

    • Chris

      Praying for them……….especially since I recently lost a cousin who committed suicide while in the army and not overseas.

  • http://www.actmobil.com The Hotshot

    iTS OBVIOUS THAT THE NUMBERS COULD’NT LIE. THE POINT IS OBAMA WILL STILL WIN.

    • Paul Wells

      It’s obvious the world is flat, it’s obvious the sun revolves around the earth, it’s obvious that the best way to treat any ailment is with leeches. What a maroon, you are!

      • Karolyn

        Are you aware that there are ailments treated with leaches?

  • ernie

    I have always been told that figures never lie. But, man can liars figure!

  • MasterBlaster

    Don’t you all know by now that poll numbers, like statistics, can be manipulated to say anything you want them to say?? I learned this during my second year off college when I had to take Statistics 101, or what I called Sadistics 101. By watching the news and reading, am realizing that people are becoming more aware of what’s really going on and, hopefully, they’ll make their voting decisions based on that. No, Mr. “The Hotshot” (comment above mine) this doesn’t apply to you because it’s obvious the liberal rhetoric has fried your brain, if you had one to begin with. This administration has lied to us from the very beginning, and continues to do so — the Benghazi caper notwithstanding. So cheer up, America, there’s still hope that we’ll get out of this gawd awfull mess all these politicians have gotten us into. Look at it this way, if you don’t vote for Obama you’re a racist; and if you vote for Romney you’re still a racist for not voting for Obama. So what do you have to loose? Either way you suck according to the leftist liberals out there. Go with your gut feeling. Am just sayin…

    • eddie47d

      Oh really Masterbater. It seems like Conservative rhetoric has fried your brain so now we have two persons with fried brains. How lovely! I hate to tell you but all Presidents lie to us and that includes Republicans and Democrats. Have you already forgotten Bush/Cheney or even President Johnson? Now why bring up the race card? Is it because you are one? Now take some Pepto Bismol and take care of whatever is disturbing your gut.

      • Ed

        So, you support the racist in the WH, do you, and like him, you insist that anyone who uses the word “racist” is one? That’s where this race stuff started, it began with the big time racist in the WH. So SHUT UP!!!!!!!!, and go see the 2016 movie where you can see his racist and communist roots.

      • momo

        I thought you were above insulting people eddie47d, or you just have a double standard for everybody else?

      • eddie47d

        I’m fully aware where racism reared its ugly head and it didn’t come from Obama. That is something else that has been around since the beginning of time and I see the lying slander continues. Now MOMO where is the double standard? Where and when?

      • momo

        eddie47d says:
        October 8, 2012 at 6:14 pm
        MOMO you’re as bad and continually as insulting as OPAL. You say little and insult much! Is that the freedom to be rude and condescending on a regular basis?

        Remember that little gem, eddie? Now we know you’re justa hypocrite loser.

      • eddie47d

        Little MOMO can’t handle the truth about herself! Right back to the condescending remarks.

      • Opal the Gem

        eddie, he who uses so many words to say so little.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      ” Look at it this way, if you don’t vote for Obama you’re a racist; and if you vote for Romney you’re still a racist for not voting for Obama.”

      This saying wasn’t correct when it first came out, and it’s not correct now. Repeating it just makes you look foolish.

  • Bob

    There are less people working in this country now than when Obummer went in, NUFF SAID!!

  • Ed

    You do mean their boy, don’t you? (No racism intended). Four years ago the electorate (he didn’t get my vote, BTW) really DID send a boy to do a man’s job.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      I thought we had sent a Civil Right’s Attorney, Best Selling Author, Educational Board member and Constitutional Law Professor.

      Maybe YOU need to look at what your beliefs are if you are so far off from reality.

      • Paul Wells

        Correction, tigeer….we sent a community organizer who has never run a business, or been responsible for much of anything to preside over the largest economy in the free world. As for being an author, he was commissioned to write a book on a subject other than himself, he was given a Nobel Peace Prize before he had done anything to deserve it, he has shamelessly self-promoted himself, while insulating himself from any blame by blaming others. I could go on. There, I fixed that for you!

  • http://YAHOO! TIM B

    I WORKED HARD ALL MY LIFE TO FINALLY HAVE MY OWN BUSSINESS, WITHOUT THE GOV,S HELP !!! BUT LOST ALL WHEN I GOT HURT ! NO EASY JOBS FOR ME, ALL SWEAT AND BACK BREAKING WORK IN THE HEAT !!! I THANK GOD I HAVE A STRONG BODY TODAY FROM NOT SITTING ON MY ASS !!! I JUST HOPE MY CHILDREN,S CHILDREN WILL SURVIVE THE OBONATION !! DONT TAX PEOPLE THAT CREATE JOBS !!! POOR PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO HIRE YOU WITH OBUMMERS LIES !! YES HE CAN !!! BULL SKEET !!! HE GETS A CHECK FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE NOW !! HES HAPPY NOW, NO WELFARE FOR HIM !!

    • Dennis Phelps

      You hit the nail on the head! “he gets acheck for the rest of his life”
      That is the reason we should impeach him for how he got there, and the things he has done. Boot him out with no retirement pay!

  • Armyblue

    Excellent Ed, not just a boy but a socialist puppet. He needs the “useful idiots” to complete the plan to “change” this country.

  • http://WorldPress.com Roy Golsan

    I honestly pity the people who still believe in the falsehoods that are being passed around by Hussein Obama’s puppets. And I pray that collectively America will wake up and see the truth around them, and vote Hussein Obama out of office. He is the biggest imposter I have ever seen, and surely the most incompetent. (And what might anyone expect from a person who worshipped under the direction and administration of Jeremiah Wright, a person who takes delight in building diversion among Americans of all color and walks of life.) Say what you will, but a vote for Hussein Obama is a vote against America, and for everything our forefathers sacrificed their very lives for!)

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “I honestly pity the people who still believe in the falsehoods that are being passed around by Hussein Obama’s puppets.”

      What, exactly, are those falsehoods?

      • http://WorldPress.com Roy

        Well, where would you like to start? Just about everything that comes out of his mouth is a falsehood. Want to start with the economy? Or the budget? Or the unemployment figures? Or maybe you might like to refresh your memory regarding Mr. Hussein’s Obama’s thoughts regarding the Solyndra scandal? No, none of those subjects interest you? Well, perhaps you would want to begin with the falsehoods he preaches about the Libya mess and the “spontaneous riots” on our embassy?

        I shall not waste my time exchanging thoughts, facts, ideas, with you if you are sincere about your question, “what falsehoods?” Are you, indeed, blind to the misrepresentations he continually insists on making?

        If so, we are wasting each other’s time. I attempted to give Hussein Obama the benefit of the doubt for a long two and one-half years. No more. Never again. It takes a man with a certain degree of intestinal fortitude to admit to failures made in judgment, etc. I have never heard the subject of this conversation admit to any misgivings whatsoever. “Hey, everything is fine; just close your eyes and vote for me again.” Are you CRAZY?

        I’m not attempting to get you to change your vote, to change your beliefs, or to do anything else, for that matter. You live with what you do, and I shall do the same. But, to reiterate, if you are sincere when you ask, “what falsehoods?”, I believe you and I are much better off to agree to disagree.

        [And before you go off half-cocked and think I am just another die-in-the-wool Republican, brother, you are mistaken. I open my eyes, I see. I open my ears, I listen. And when I do open my mouth, I try to speak the TRUTH!]

        Adios.

  • http://alsina846.wordpress.com Linda from NYC

    I do not believe those numbers, this adminstration is dirty and they will do what ever it takes to win. obama’s records is not acceptable and he has failed Americans. Why would anybody vote for 4 more years of failed polices is beyond me. Bush was bad, but obama make bush look good and that is scary. The truth is to me they are both bad and like to give some else a chance to turn things around for the country. Romney/Ryan

  • Netterella

    Have you fine people seen that Darden Restaurants (owners of Red Lobster, Olive Garden, etc) are looking at dropping their employees to 28 hours a week, or less? That way they can get away from having to pay the benefits to full-time employees (that are killing their businesses anyway) once Obamacare goes into full effect. Businesses cannot afford to pay everything the government expects them to fork out and still have enough to run their businesses. So there are thousands of people that will go from full-time to part-time and lose their benefits because the government is making it too hard to have a business.

    • Netterella

      And quoting from my local newspaper…

      “The U.S. economy created only 114,000 jobs last month, pointing out that it would take 230 months at that rate to employ the nation’s 23 million unemployed and underemployed individuals. It’s simply not enough. I don’t know how anybody can can look at that number and be proud of it, he said.”

      That’s 20 years to just employ those who are ALREADY unemployed or underemployed. That’s NOT good enough!! People need to get back to work NOW but it looks like it’s only going to get worse!

    • Dennis Phelps

      Obama probably thinks that will be OK, because they will have to hire more part time help bring up the number of employed and lowering the unemployment rate.
      Also they can be like him, he only works part time in his job!!!

      Some times I like sarcasm because it makes the koolaid drinkers think some one agrees with them!

  • Greye Dunning

    As I noted in the introduction to my book, The Obama Timeline, a jury at a murder trial will often find the accumulated circumstantial evidence so overwhelming that a guilty verdict is obvious—even though there may be no witness to the crime. “The jurors in the Scott Peterson trial believed the collection of evidence more than they believed Scott Peterson. Among other things, the jury thought that being arrested with $15,000 in cash, recently-dyed hair, a newly-grown goatee, four cell phones, camping equipment, a map to a new girlfriend’s house, a gun, and his brother’s drivers license certainly did not paint a picture of a grieving husband who had nothing to do with his pregnant wife’s disappearance and murder.”
    In the four years I have been gathering information about—and evidence against—Barack Hussein Obama, I have encountered hundreds of coincidences that strike me as amazing. None of those coincidences, by themselves, may mean much. But taken as a whole it is almost impossible to believe they were all the result of chance. Consider the Obama-related coincidences:
    Obama just happened to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William Ayers, whose father just happened to be Thomas Ayers, who just happened to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who just happened to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who just happened to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama just happened to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who just happened to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which just happened to manage public housing in Chicago, which just happened to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which just happened not to properly maintain the housing—which eventually just happened to require demolition.
    Valerie Jarrett also just happened to work for the city of Chicago, and just happened to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Obama), who just happened to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also just happened to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.
    Bernardine Dohrn just happened to be married to William Ayers, with whom she just happened to have hid from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who just happened to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour just happened to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour just happened to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who just happened to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama just happened to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who just happened to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who just happened to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who just happened to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who just happened to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.
    Obama, Sr. just happened to have his education at the University of Hawaii paid for by the Laubach Literacy Institute, which just happened to have been supported by Elizabeth Mooney Kirk, who just happened to bea friend of Malcolm X, who just happened to have been associated with the nation of Islam, which was later headed by Louis Farrakhan, who just happens to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also just happens to be located very close to the residence of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who just happen to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama, whose parents just happen not to mind exposing their daughters to bomb-making communists.
    After attending Occidental College and Columbia University, where he just happened to have foreign Muslim roommates, Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that just happened to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who just happened to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College, and Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF just happened to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund, which was founded by the Woods family, whose Sahara Coal company just happened to provide coal to Commonwealth Edison, whose CEO just happened to be Thomas Ayers, whose son William Ayers just happened to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.
    Obama also worked on voter registration drives in Chicago in the 1980s and just happened to work with leftist political groups like the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and Socialist International (SI), through which Obama met Carl Davidson, who just happened to travel to Cuba during the Vietnam War to sabotage the U.S. war effort, and who just happened to be a former member of the SDS and a member of the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism, which just happened to sponsor a 2002 anti-war rally at which Obama spoke, and which just happened to have been organized by Marilyn Katz, a former SDS activist and later public relations consultant who just happened to be a long-time friend of Obama’s political hatchet man, David Axelrod.
    Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who just happened to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama just happened never to hear because he just happened to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic,” and Obama just happened never to notice that Oprah Winfrey left the church because it was too radical, and just happened never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.
    Although no one had ever heard of him at the time, Obama just happened to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he just happened to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he just happened to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript calledDreams From My Father, which just happened to strongly reflect the writing style of William Ayers, who just happened to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama just happened never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city.
    Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which just happened to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which just happened to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slum lord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner just happened to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers.
    In 1994 Obama represented ACORN and another plaintiff in a lawsuit against Citibank for denying mortgages to blacks (Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings Bank), and the lawsuit just happened to result in banks being blackmailed into approving subprime loans for poor credit risks, a trend which just happened to spread nationwide, and which just happened to lead to the collapse of the housing bubble, which just happened to help Obama defeat John McCain in the 2008 presidential election.
    In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which just happened to promote Marxism, and Obama was supported by Dr. Quentin Yong, a socialist who just happened to support a government takeover of the health care system.
    In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who just happened to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young just happened to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, just happened to be murdered, and both murders just happened to have never been solved. In 2008Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and just happened to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who just happens to be the son of Joe Biden.
    In 2003 Obama and his wife attended a dinner in honor of Rashid Khalidi, who just happened to be a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights, and who Obama claims he does not know, even though the Obamas just happened to have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and just happened to have used them as occasional baby-sitters. Obama reportedly praised Khalidi at the decidedly anti-Semitic event, which William Ayers just happened to also attend, and the event Obama pretends he never attended was sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama just happened to have funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund with William Ayers, and one speaker at the dinner remarked that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel“will never see a day of peace,” and entertainment at the dinner included a Muslim children’s dance whose performances just happened to include simulated beheadings with fake swords, and stomping on American, Israeli, and British flags, and Obama allegedly told the audience that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis,” and the Los Angeles Times has a videotape of the event but just happens to refuse to make it public.
    In the 2004 Illinois Democrat primary race for the U.S. Senate, front-runner Blair Hull just happened to be forced out of the race after David Axelrod just happened to manage to get Hull’s sealed divorce records unsealed, which just happened to enable Obama to win the primary, so he could face popular Republican Jack Ryan, whose sealed child custody records from his divorce just happened to become unsealed, forcing Ryan to withdraw from the race, which just happened to enable the unqualified Obama to waltz into the U.S. Senate, where, after a mere 143 days of work, he just happened to decide he was qualified to run for President of the United States.
    Obama just happened to save $300,000 on the purchase of a $1.65 million Chicago mansion for which he deposited only $1,000 in earnest money, while the seller’s adjacent empty lot which was appraised at no more than $500,000 just happened to be sold at the inflated price of $625,000 to Rita Rezko, who just happened to earn only $37,000 per year working for Cook County government, and who just happened to be married to Tony Rezko, who just happened to be Obama’s main money man for his political campaigns, and who only days before the Obama mansion purchase just happened to obtain a $3.5 million loan from wealthy Iraqi Nadhmi Auchi, who just happened to have been kicked out of Iraq, and who just happened to have been convicted of corruption charges in France, and who just happened to ask Rezko to ask then-U.S. Senator Obama to help him obtain a visa to travel to the United States.
    Rita Rezko just happened to borrow the money for the $625,000 empty lot from the Mutual Bank of Harvey, which just happened to be run by Tony Rezko’s pal Amrish Mahajan, whose wife Anita just happened to have been charged with fraudulently receiving $2 million in Illinois taxpayer dollars for drug tests never performed by her company, K. K. Bio-Science,which just happened to have a no-bid contract with the state, and whose computers just happened to disappear right before investigators arrived to take them away for evidence.
    Obama just happened to obtain a $1.32 million mortgage for his mansion even though the payments of $8,000 per month (plus at least $1,500 per month in property taxes) exceeded 50 percent of his $162,100 U.S Senate salary income, and even though Michelle Obama was claiming that she and her husband were still paying off substantial student loans and were struggling to pay for piano lessons for their daughters, one of whom just happens to look remarkably like one of the daughters of Malcolm X.
    Obama just happened to obtain his mansion mortgage from Northern Trust Bank, whose Board of Directors just happened to include Susan Crown, who just happened to be part of the wealthy Crown family, which just happened to donate to Obama’s campaigns, and which just happened to have ownership in defense contractor General Dynamics Corporation, and the Crown family just happened to sit on the board of energy company Exelon, formerly known as Commonwealth Edison, which just happened to have had Thomas Ayers as its CEO, and the Crown family also owned the Maytag appliance company, which just happened to move its operations to Mexico, after its employees just happened to donate to Obama’s campaign, after he just happened to pledge that he would keep their jobs in Galesburg, Illinois.
    In June 2005, just months after Obama became a U.S. Senator, Michelle Obama just happened to be named a “non-executive director” of the board of TreeHouse Foods, a supplier of Wal-Mart, for a salary of $51,200 in 2005 and $101,083 in 2006, and she just happened to be given 7,500 TreeHouse stock options, worth approximately $72,375, even though she just happened to know nothing about the private sector or running a business.
    In 2006 Obama pushed for a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago, and his wife Michelle just happened to be promoted to Vice-President of Community and External Affairs for the hospitals with a salary increase from $121,900 to $316,962, and she just happened to receive public relations help from Obama’s political strategist David Axelrod, whose mother just happened to write for a communist newspaper.
    In 2006 Sarah P. Herlihy, an associate of the Chicago law firm of Kirkland and Ellis, whose employees later contributed $87,722 to Obama’s presidential campaign, and whose partner Bruce I. Ettleson just happened to be a member of Obama’s campaign finance committee, just happened to write a paper calling for the elimination of the “natural born citizen” requirement in the U.S. Constitution.
    Obama just happened to visit Kenya in 2006 to support his cousin, Raila Odinga, a Muslim socialist candidate for president, who just happened to have ties to both al-Qaeda and Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi, and who just happened to have been educated in communist East Germany, and who just happened to name his son Fidel, and who just happened to plan on establishing Shari’ah Muslim law in Kenya, and whose activities prompted the Kenyan government to lodge an official protest of Obama’s passport abuse and misconduct, and Obama’s actions just happened to have been denounced by the U.S. State Department as being in direct opposition to U. S. National Security, and after Odinga, for whom Obama just happened to have raised $950,000, lost the election, his Muslim followers just happened to burn Christian women and children alive in a church where they had sought refuge.
    In 2006 Obama endorsed Alexi Giannoulias in his race for Illinois State Treasurer and stated that he is “…one of the most outstanding young men I could ever hope to meet”—even though Giannoulias just happened to be only 29 years old and even though his family’s Broadway Bank just happened to finance Chicago crime figures like Michael “Jaws” Giorango, a Chicago thug with convictions for bookmaking and promoting prostitution, and even though virtually all of Chicago’s Democrat politicians were keeping their distance from Giannoulias, whose reputation was so questionable he even failed to get the endorsement of the Chicago Democrat Party—which just happens to almost never be concerned about questionable reputations.
    Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, once worked for the Ford Foundation’s Asia program, which just happened to be run by Peter Geithner, who just happened to be the father of Timothy Geithner, who just happened to neglect to pay Social Security taxes on much of his income, which just happened to somehow qualify him to be Obama’s Treasury Secretary.
    During the 2008 campaign Obama’s passport records just happened to have been illegally searched by an employee of a firm headed by John O. Brennan, and Lt. Quarles Harris, Jr., who was cooperating with federal investigators in connection with the incident, just happened to be found with a bullet in his head, and the murder just happened never to be solved, and Obama later just happened to make Brennan his terrorism and intelligence advisor.
    On election night in 2008 in Chicago’s Grant Park, Obama just happened to wear a black suit and a red tie, and his older daughter just happened to wear a red dress, and his younger daughter just happened to wear a stark black dress, and his wife Michelle just happened to wear an arguably unattractive black dress that appeared to have a giant red X design, which just happened to prompt some to wonder if their clothing just happened to denote black power, communism, and Malcolm X, and at the very least prompted others to wonder why anyone would have his daughter wear a jet-black dress for a celebratory occasion—or where one could even just happen to find a store that sells black dresses for little girls.
    From election night forward there are hundreds of other “just happeneds,” not the least of which is the long-form birth certificate released by Obama in April 2011 which just happened to consist of multiple image layers, including various objects which can be separated and rotated with computer software—which just happens to be impossible if a birth certificate is merely scanned and not computer-constructed by a forger.
    Oh, and Obama just happened to have used more than one Social Security number over the years, and one of them is associated with 713 Hart Senate Office Building and starts with the digits 282, which signifies issuance in Ohio, a state in which Obama just happened to have never lived or worked, and another Social Security number used by Obama starts with 042, which signifies Connecticut, another state in which Obama just happened to have never lived or worked, and it just happened that no one in the mainstream media has ever bothered to ask Obama why he has used multiple Social Security numbers or why the 042 number comes up as invalid in the E-Verify system used by employers to confirm whether immigrant job applicants have valid numbers.
    I could go on… but you get the idea.
    Don Fredrick
    September 30, 2012
    P.S. If Obama just happens to win reelection on November 6, remember that hyperinflation just happens to be the inescapable consequence of printing trillions of dollars to cover massive government deficits.

    • http://WorldPress.com Roy

      Wish everyone in America could/would read your investigation. But somehow there would be untold numbers of them that would simply ignore the facts and try to blame either the Republicans, the T-Party, the conservatives, YOU, or racists for distorting the facts and ganging up on poor Hussein Obama!

      You’re right on, and I wish you all the luck in the world in getting your message out, and hopefully there exists sufficient numbers of people who can vote Hussein out of office!

    • Karolyn

      Gee, reminds me of: “Six degrees of separation is the theory that anyone on the planet can be connected to any other person on the planet through a chain of acquaintances that has no more than five intermediaries. The theory was first proposed in 1929 by the Hungarian writer Frigyes Karinthy in a short story called “Chains.”

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      This is one of the most paranoid delusions that I’ve seen in a long time.

      You will probably get people to buy it, because they already believe what you have to say. But the majority of us has seen these allegations for over 5 years and do not come to the same conclusions as you do.

  • Kim Rozell

    I have been out of work since January, I have 3 college degrees, a number of certifications and I can’t even find a part time job. I have a fast growing number of friends like me have multiple college degrees and we are all out of work. We are willing to flip burgers part time… but no luck. Our bank accounts are empty, as are our wallets. One sleeps in his van, another in a portable building, another in a tent. Unemployment is more like 22% than 14%. Us older guys are passed over and not even considered. We have skills, talents, and the training to many different things. I have filled out more than 400 applications state wide this year without a single reply. Too old, too ugly, over educated for for anything.

    • Karolyn

      You have to think outside the box.

  • OL504Troop

    Yeah- there’s just no way the communist Hilda Solis could be lying. You libs are so freakin stupid it’s unbelieveable. Dept. of Labor has contacted defense contractors and asked them NOT to send out hundreds of thousands of layoff notices until AFTER the election, even though it violates Federal Law (WARN Act) and subjects them to huge fines. Not to worry says DoL – WE will pay your fines (with taxpayer dollars BTW), just don’t upset Obama’s re-election bid. Or how about all of the white house spokespeople LYING about the terrorist attacks on our embassies that killed four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was horribly MURDERED. Oh no, there is just no way that this administration would LIE about anything – isn’t it nice to be a retarded, kool-aid drinking liberal?

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Dept. of Labor has contacted defense contractors and asked them NOT to send out hundreds of thousands of layoff notices until AFTER the election”

      Please, provide proof of this.

  • Marilyn

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why there was an improved job report for September. All of the department stores have hired additional personnel to take care of the Christmas rush. Wait until January 1st to find out what the job report looks like, and if you were stupid enough to vote for Obama again, you will find out what a depression is like.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    The fact is it is scenario 2. I think it is a step in the right direction. It has taken Obama quite a while. But I give him some credit since when he came in our country was already in a downward spiral. Is that an excuse of course not. He has taken longer to deal with unemployment then he should. But I will admit you try and be President in a time of unprecedented economic, social, military and political upheaval.

  • http://NotAvailable Philip A. Sandi

    Can you also discredit all the job reports of the past. The fear of a black president…………..oh yes but all the same let’s see whose report the votes will go for. If you can beat Obama join him that is the American way. Crab mentality has no place here. The coat is only elegant when a GOP is in it? Gush!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.burge Joe Burge

    Bureau of Labor and Statistics to undergo name change
    In keeping with their new policies of generating labor statistics, Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis announced that the BLS will shorten the name of their agency to BS. The Bureau, which is responsible for generating the labor statistics tracking employment in the US labor force, has announced new methods of calculating their numbers. Instead of actual statistics, the bureau will begin utilizing a combination of Ouija boards, Chicago schools new math, and a magic eight-ball for generation of new statistical labor numbers.

    Secretary Solis announced that the new methods will be used through the next two months, until the conclusion of the Presidential elections. After that time, Solis is quoted as saying “either it will no longer matter, or we will all be out there looking for new jobs with the rest of you anyway?”

  • “Homer”

    LOLOLOLOLOL This is better than saturday Night Live! There is a better chance that I could tie my shoes w/my tongue than that i believe these stats! The only jobs created were Govt. (control) jobs to increase govt power! When they bring Chinese companies to build bridges in calif. that’s creating jobs…sure but for the Chinese!! HOGWASH…I am NOT Gullible!! The job rate has decreased and will continue to do so….how better to destroy a nation when no one works and then has to look to the Govt for help!!

  • http://PersonalLiberty Chris

    Are they still counting census workers jobs? Possibly holiday part timers since 2209 to 2011? Numbers sure changed quick.

    • http://tlgeer.wordpress.com tlgeer

      “Are they still counting census workers jobs? Possibly holiday part timers since 2209 to 2011? Numbers sure changed quick.”

      No, census jobs have been over for awhile. It was taken in 2010.

      As for the numbers being changed quickly, if you have been paying attention to the amount of new building permits, among others, you would know where the numbers are coming from. They are not coming quickly, and I wouldn’t want them to (they would be more likely to rebound quickly), but they have been steadily increasing for at least 2 years. I’m not saying that they haven’t backslid, they have, but anyone who has actually been watching the jobs numbers have known that they have been getting better.

  • Deerinwater

    Not at any point in this thread did I feel enticed to jump in, finding it mostly name calling and nonsense.

    As far as I’m concerned ~ there is no such thing as a “hard number” to begin with ~ all final tallies are “fuzzy” and suspect.

    I have a lady friend that grew up in the Oklahoma oil patch and be engaged in oil field accounting all her working year of 57. ~ She now manage the accounting of joint ventures for a company you all know. Bottom line to my story , she submits the hard numbers to top management for review and then they require that she go back and adjust some numbers to project the picture they wish to present. ~ This is a common business practice.

    That anyone would claim Obama administration is doing this, would be correct. Anyone claiming Obama’s administration has been the first or only one to do it is naive.

    We do not live in a black and white world but a world of many shades of grey.

    Sorry.

    Unemployment figures has historically been figured low and has never reflected a true accounting of the unemployed ~ this is not “News” making the pretext of the original thread posting null and void content.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stacykuta Stacy Kuta

    True investigative journalism is clear about the duopoly being funded by the same groups that look out for Wall Street. Is it not obvious why the opposition is trying to silence Johnson’s voice with no real coverage or national polling, even though he is polling double digits in some states?

    Gary Johnson 2012 for REAL CHANGE
    Down with Duopoly!
    LIVE FREE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQcRR-71Tq0

    http://www.indecisionforever.com/blog/2012/10/15/gop-suddenly-not-laughing-about-gary-johnson

  • last vestage

    I agree to some extent with DeerInTheWater. There are lies and damn lies and statistics…
    but this administration has really ramped up the lies. Even his EO’s are over the top. With “exectuive privilege, who needs czars? (let alone a congress).
    I doubt that fast eddie has a long enough attention span to read Greye Dunning’s synopsis. He strikes me as a snark-and-run type. When he isn’t doing that, he’s picking lint out of his cavernous belly button or feeding on sodas and candy bars. I am tired of seeing his obtuse immature comments everyday on this page. Time for “change”.

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