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Israel Lobbyist: False Flag Needed To Attack Iran

September 27, 2012 by  

Israel Lobbyist: False Flag Needed To Attack Iran
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A false flag may be on the horizon, one that will be used to throw the United States into full-on military conflict with Iran.

Consider these remarks from Patrick Clawson, director of the pro-Israeli lobby Washington Institute for Near East Policy:

I frankly think that crises initiation is really tough. And it’s very hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran. Which leads me to conclude that if, in fact, compromise is not company that the traditional way America gets to war is what would be best for U.S. interests.

Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into WWII; you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think that Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into WWI; you may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam; you may recall we had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the [U.S.S.] Maine exploded. And, may I point out, that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the Federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked — which is why he order the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing which the South Carolinians said would cause an attack.

So, if, in fact, the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.

Clawson went on to suggest that the United States could move on to blatantly launching military assaults against the Iranian armed forces in undeclared war saying, “Iranian submarines periodically go down, someday one of them might not come up — who would know why?”

Clawson’s closing remark suggested that the United States should “get nastier” in its use of covert and unConstitutional military attacks against Iran in order to provoke a violent response aimed at the United States from the uncooperative nation. Doing so would serve to drum up patriotic American public support for yet another long, costly and unwinnable Mideast war at behest of Israeli special interests.

The above-mentioned catalysts for war offer a frightening outline of the campaign of subversion that anti-Iranian zealots like Clawson wish to employ in order to make Americans support another conflict in the Mideast. Any aggression, such as acts of terror, toward the United States in coming months will likely be blamed on the Iranian government. But people like Clawson make it perfectly clear, things are not always what they seem.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Harold Olsen

    Personally, I believe that if Iran attacks Israel, if Obama had his way, the US would go into it on Iran’s side and accuse Isreal of starting it. He has as much love for Israel as Hitler had for the Jews.

    • eddie47d

      Harold you are as much a clear and present danger as Patrick Clawson and another bonafide hypster!

      • Jimmy the Greek

        You got that right eddie !

    • Larry K.

      HE ALSO HAS AS MUCH LOVE FOR AMERICA AS HITLER DID FOR AMERICA.

  • Marilyn

    If we need a flag for that why not use Obama’s new flag.

    • Larry K.

      that is a muslim flag NOT our UNITED STATE’S FLAG.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

        Would that be a black flag or a worm eaten one ??

  • Corkey

    Well, it won’t be the first time……..in fact, if you look back on just about every war, there are few exceptions. You wonder what the history of this country would be if Woodrow Wilson was never president and we didn’t needlessly participate in WW1?? It been downhill since for our country.

    • eddie47d

      G Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to attack Iraq under false reasoning. There will always be the Patrick Clawson’s out there too who want war without a reason. I suspect war and conflict is in the human blood and for some it takes little motivation to desire it. Who will hoodwink us next,Israel,Syria,our own Congress or maybe the dispute between Japan and China over an island. We love to take sides as if war is a competitive sport.

      • Larry K.

        AND OBAMA IS SURE TO START ONE.

      • http://speedle speedle

        Gee, I must have my history wrong. I could have sworn the United Nations and umpteen western nations authorized American intervention in Iraq (including all the notable democrats). Wow, I am glad Ole Eddie is here to straighten everything out.

      • The GLB

        Eddie, there is always a reason. The problem is that the reason only benefits a few who are using war to further an agenda, to make money, or both.

        The bankers love war, because the money to fund the war has to be borrowed.

        The weapons manufacturers love war, because they get to sell more weapons and ammo.

        The politicians love war, because war gives people a sense of patriotism that otherwise may have been waning. That is exactly why both NWeO-cons and NWeO-libs have suggested to Obama that he needs an Oklahoma City type event to win in 2012.

      • eddie47d

        For Speedle to use the UN as an excuse for war when you all hate the UN is being rather coy wouldn’t you say. It was Colin Powell who took that fake vial of anthrax to the UN and insisted that the members vote for war. They were as gullible as our own Congress. It also shows the power the US has in persuading other nations in supporting our agenda.

      • eddie47d

        Thanks GLB and so true. Although I don’t agree there will be an Oklahoma type event for Obama to win unless you include Romney’s foot in mouth as an event.

      • Jack

        Speedle:

        The UN did not give approval for the Iraq war. The weapons inspectors were telling the
        Security Council that they could not find any evidence of the existence of WMD. They also
        were telling them that they only needed a coupldeof more month to complete their work.

        Bush was not going to wait for the Security Council to finish the inspections program BECAUSE he knew there were no WMD. Bush launched the war and sure enough after the entire country had been searched the report by our WMD inspectors was that Iraq did
        not have WMD.

        All the evidence indicates that the Iraq war was another false flag operation.

      • http://speedle speedle

        Jack writes, “Bush was not going to wait for the Security Council to finish the inspections program BECAUSE he knew there were no WMD. Bush launched the war and sure enough after the entire country had been searched the report by our WMD inspectors was that Iraq did not have WMD.”

        That is simply untrue Jack. Just about everyone in the U.S government including democrats, CIA, state department and more believed that Saddam had these weapons and would use them. After all he had used them before on his own people. Bush did not make this decision in a vacuum as all you Monday Morning QBs claim. Personally, I am not convinced that there were not WMDs before the marines got into the country. If all this had happened when the moron currently occupying the white house were in charge I am sure you and the media would be trying to figure out how to make him a hero.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        It’s a jew thing eddie , they always try to get us Goyim to do there dirty work .

  • Arthur Fonzarelli

    Our ‘friendship’ with Israel has been very EXPENSIVE.
    Why do so few American Jews serve in our military?

    • Sirian

      “Why do so few American Jews serve in our military?” Do you have numbers to back this statement? Come on now, stretch it as best you can.

    • eddie47d

      Jews are 1.7% of our population so naturally there wouldn’t be very many within the military.Since there are Star of David’s in military cemeteries apparently they have died for this country.

      • Ted Crawford

        It is a pleasant, if extremely rare, experience when i can Agree with you Eddie! I’ve never been more in agreement with you than on this! Racism blinds it’s victims more completely than any other false ideaology I know!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Have you looked at every dog tag of every Soldier and Marine?

    • http://none Charlie

      Fonzarelli,,,
      Could you ,or will you give us a very definitive ID of just who and / or what a “Jew” is???
      BECAUSE,,, there are at least 3 definitions to the word “Jew”….
      1. Bloodline Jew , 2. Religious Jew , 3. Geographical Jew… So, just who, what, where, are you’all writing about??? Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus , a bloodline Jew, for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 , spoken by a non -Jew , is salvation…

    • al cantlon

      Having served 20 years in the US military I feel qualified to answer your question, as far as I know there is no nation that has a higher percentage of their people in the US military than Israel

    • Jimmy the Greek

      Because they don’t give a rat’s arss about America they only use this country for the betterment of israel and well throw America under the bus when it serves there own good

  • Bill Scantlen

    NO war is winnable when you have a politician telling the military what sites to bomb, when you can shoot at the enemy, trying to win their hearts and minds.
    We would still be at war with Germany had there been the restrictions that were placed on Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq and Afghanistan.
    Then there is General Mark Dempsey who has to be the most ignorant general ever to command.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

      I almost forgot Dempsey was in WW2…not 1…. and yes there are practically no Jews in the US military except in command…. The same was in WW2 when I was in the RAF and was “ordered” not to “incendiary mark” Jewish property in Dresden, Leipzig and Magdeburg… certain areas on my maps were blanked out…. I found out in ´46 at MI-5 HQ in London !!… when I exploded…. me.. a Dine… US born half Navajo half French Huguenot… my 2 ancestry lines never coexisted with Germans or Khazar Jews…. !! Donah..//

  • Earth

    As long as the USA is a servant to Jewish interestes, they will be involved in wars.
    There is only one way out.
    Get rid of the Jewish owned and controlled banking system.
    Nationalise the FED and all Banks.
    Deport ALL Jews to Israel.
    Only then will there be peace and properity for all.
    See the Bankers Manifesto on the Internet. They are scum.

    • Robert

      It is quite clear that “Earth” wants to bring down the wrath of GOD on the United States. Just take a look at all the Nations that expelled the JEWS from their lands. The GOD of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob became their enemy and those Nations were punished by him. GOD promised Abraham, Issac, and Jacob that he would bless those that blessed the Jews and curse those that cursed the Jews. Be very careful “Earth” GOD is watching!

      • http://none Charlie

        Robert,,,
        Answer My question ,above , then ID who those people are in the state of Israel ? CLUE!! they ain’t bloodline Jews… Have you ever heard of the people called “Edomites” from the lineage of
        Esau Edom … Yeah! you gotta read The Holy Bible to learn the above info… It also will help to learn to Pray and Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • http://none Charlie

        Robert,,,
        All most forgot to mention that Jews DID NOT exist in The Bible , UNTIL , Jacob Israel , boy , Judah , grew up and formed his Tribe … Remember the 12, later, 13 sons of Jacob Israel ?
        they and their Lineage are the Children of Israel , which are God;s chosen people ,NOT just the
        Jews … Anyway in the Meantime ,,.,Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…

      • BimBam

        Jews are from the tribe of Judah. Jews are Hebrew people like most white people are. They all descended from the Ten Tribes. The Tribe of Dan are Danes, The Tribe of Reuben are the French people, etc., all are sons of Isaac or Isaac’s sons or Saxons for short.

        America and Britain YOU STAND IDENTIFIED with your brothers the Jews.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        robert you need to put down the crack pipe ! it is making you nuts .

    • Nan

      It’s hard for me to believe that you actually wrote this, Earth. I’m dumbfounded by your hatred. I just can’t fathom it….I pray that God opens your heart. I challenge you to say this prayer: “Create in me a clean heart, and renew a right spirit within me.” Say it every day whenever you can remember to do it and it will change you in ways you can’t imagine.

      • http://none Charlie

        Nan,,,
        Why don’t you tell Earth how to become a “True” Christian ? Don’t know??? See clue below…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • eddie47d

      I have no use for what Earth said although the right wing of our country say’s the exact same thing about sending all Muslims back to the Middle East. So many small minds trying to divide this nation.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        As soon as you qualified that you have no use for what Earth said, if an opportunity arose to use what Earth said you would do so.

      • eddie47d

        You’re an idiot Nadzieja and so wrong. Jews have been given a bad rap for centuries and because a few have been financial crooks all get labeled as such. My bone with Israel is their senseless advocating for war and unlawful settlements in the West Banks. Those are separate issues you knucklehead!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What an IGNORANT JERK you are. Your kind will always need or manufacture someone to hate. You do not do your own thinking but repeat what someone else puts in your head otherwise you would not be calling yourself Earth.
      Population wise you would not recognize a Jew even if he/she stood in any line with you and they do not hide. They work harder, they strive harder, they earn more, they save more, they study.So what is it precisely that you are hating about them? That GOD called them HIS OWN and you plainly hate GOD.

      • FRAN KIERAS

        I LOVE YOUR ANSWER, HANG TOUGH? EVERYONE FORGETS THE HOLOCAUST. THE JEWS ARE A TOUGH PEOPLE AND FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.

      • http://none Charlie

        Nadzieja Batki,,,
        Give us some Scriptures that says “the Jews are God’s chosen people “,,,CLUE,,, you ain’t gonna find it,,,but,,, You will find the truth at,,, 1 Chronicles 16:13 ,,, read and wise up… Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • TML

        If you want to talk scripture…

        Nadzieja Batki says, “That GOD called them HIS OWN”

        Charlie says, “Give us some Scriptures that says “the Jews are God’s chosen people”…”

        Deuteronomy 14:2 “For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.”

        2 Chronicles “6:6 But I have chosen Jerusalem, that my name might be there; and have chosen David to be over my people Israel.”

        Isaiah 43:20 “The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, [and] rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen”

        Interestingly, Israel being God’s chosen was absolutely conditional upon keeping the covenant and God’s law… as we first see an example in…

        Genesis 17:14 “Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant.“

        There are many more verses which give conditions to Israel being God’s chosen. And the punishment for not keeping God’s covenant is exile. If the Jewish people demonstrate their faith by following the laws of God, then God will bless them and allow them to live in the land of Israel. However, if the Jewish people lose faith in God and deviate from the laws of God, then God will take away his covenant and the promised land of Israel… thus no longer being God’s ‘chosen’.

        2 Kings 17:23 “So the people of Israel were taken away from their homeland into exile in Assyria”

        Interestingly, a religious person could reasonably conclude, within the context of such doctrine, that Israel was being punished by God with exile prior to the establishment of Israel in this century. Yet the re-establishment of Israel in this century was not by God’s hand, or by the faith of the Jewish people… but by men sympathizing God’s punishment of Israel (The supposed ‘holocaust’)

        That is why Israel still has no peace, and why God brings so many nations to be enemies with them.

        Jeremiah 6:19 “Hear, O earth: I am bringing disaster on this people, the fruit of their schemes, because they have not listened to my words and have rejected my law.”

        Zechariah 12:3 says. “And in that day I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people and all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.”

        I think this last one could be attributed to America’s unconditional support of Israel, being dragged into one war after another, over something they don’t even understand.

        This, of course, is just speaking in the context of religion.

      • http://none Charlie

        T M L,,,
        Where’s the word “Jew” in any of those Scriptures you listed??? IT ain’t there! BUT,,, the word
        “Israel” is there ,,,BIG,,, difference between the word Israel and the word “Jew”….
        The word Israel as used in The Bible refers mostly to a Man named Jacob Israel,,.,and his 12 sons which are called the children of Israel ,,,the children of Israel and their lineage ARE God’s
        Chosen people,,,NOT,,, just the lineage of Judah (Jews)…………..
        NOW! one Scripture DOES NOT delete another Scripture ,,,Psalm 119:160 tell you how to harmonize the Scriptures , to arrive at Truth,,,so,,, 1 Chronicles 16:13 is still in The Bible and it
        tells you ,,,”O seed of Israel His servant , Sons of Jacob , His chosen ones!”””…NOW! lets see
        ya twist that around to mean anything but what is “Written” … IT does NOT refer to a land area,
        it refers to a particular people… Meanwhile back at the Ranch,,,,,,,,,,,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      • TML

        Charlie says “Where’s the word “Jew” in any of those Scriptures you listed??? IT ain’t there! BUT,,, the word
        “Israel” is there ,,,BIG,,, difference between the word Israel and the word “Jew”….

        True, originally the term Jew referred only to members of the tribe of Judah, but it was applied to the other tribes as well after the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel… and the collective identity was established, as it is today (the two words being interchangeable) during the Exilic and Post Exilic eras.

        Charlie says “The word Israel as used in The Bible refers mostly to a Man named Jacob Israel,,.,and his 12 sons which are called the children of Israel ,,,the children of Israel and their lineage ARE God’s
        Chosen people,,,NOT,,, just the lineage of Judah (Jews)…………..”

        Yes, Israel refers to a single man, Jacob, a group or race of people (his children and lineage), or even what is called the ‘promised land’, depending on the context. I agree that it would mean ‘not only’ the lineage of Judah are God’s chosen, but it still stands that the house of Judah (part of the Children of Israel) could be said to be God’s chosen. I’m struggling to understand how the distinction, “not just the lineage of Judah”, has any significance to the argument.

      • http://none Charlie

        T M L,,,
        You will have to argue with God ,,,He’s the one that wrote 1 Chronicles 16:13 ….The simple fact
        is those people in the sand box called Israel have little or no ties to the Children of Israel…

    • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

      at least thát would be a start…. Donah..//

    • Gladys Cuadra

      I am agree with you, we do need to get into another war, that is the cause of the big deficit and lost of lot of Americans life.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      The sooner the better ! Earth

  • Earth

    Yeah Robert.
    Which ”God” are you talking about?
    The Jew god Yaweh?

    God is not a vengeful god like the jewish god Yaweh.
    God is Love.
    The Old Testament is a bloodbath.
    Wherever the Jews are involved, there is a bloobath.

    The Jews see us non-jews as cattle, and call us Goy.
    See the Thora, the jewish bible.
    Jews are allowed to steal from non-jews.
    They can rape our women, they can lie to us, they can steal from us.
    And they do.

    Have you read the the Bankers Manifesto?
    Just Google Bankers Manifesto, and you will find a host of information.
    What they planned there, is happening to us now.
    The Jews are our downfall.
    We need to ged rid of them very fast. Permanently.

    • phoenix

      http://www.garynorth.com/public/6951.cfm

      banker manifesto debunked….

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So you are just like all the Muslims that hate the Jews. Such partners you are.

      • D.G.H. Ahmed

        Sorry – It seems you are ignorant – NOT all Muslims hate Jews. Those few Muslims who hate Jews are equally ignorant.

      • eddie47d

        Thank you DGH and “Edith” Nadzieja put a sock in it !Don’t you remember the millions of Christians who are the ones who hated Jews over the centuries and wanted their demise. Those Christians fully blamed the Jews for Jesus’s death and even acted on that hatred.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

      You must have gone to another sunday school,,, I never heard of that nonsense… not before 1676 when Nathaniel Bacon started exterminating Original Native Americans..
      Donah..//

    • al cantlon

      All of you people expressing religion as a reason for any of the current happenings in the world are confused by a few misspelled words in the bible, it actually reads atom & eve atom is better expressed as MCsquared & should be delivered to the Irianians , after the first 3 deliveries , by the fastest means possible , ( ICBM ) to the 2 necular sites & the other to Tehran , we should contact them & ask them if they have enough nukes or do they a few more !

    • http://none Charlie

      Earth ?,,,
      The Jews you are referring to are called out by King Jesus at Revelation 2:9 and 3:9…………
      Earth are you on planet earth??? Meanwhile back at the Ranch,,,,,,,,,,,,,
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • edsniktaw

    People it is called “The First Strike Theory”.

  • Earth

    @phoenix
    Really?
    Do you not see what is happening to the economy?
    People are losing their houses. Their jobs.
    Debunked you say?
    By whom?
    A Jew?

    • Ted Crawford

      No Earth, by FACTS ! Your raging racism is simply blinding you to them!

      • http://none Charlie

        Ted Crawford,,,
        Racism is covered by King Jesus at Matthew 15:24……………. Meanwhile……………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Keep on posting Earth. It is enlightening to see you and your kind hang themselves with their own tongues.

    • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

      You´re right… People lost almost everything they couldn´t pay for in the 1st place…. if it were not for Ami Khazars Jews shoving “beeootiful deals” down peepols´ throats and the total lack of operational education… Bernanke would not have opened his airways…. Donah..//

    • http://none Charlie

      Earth,,,
      Don’t forget , King Jesus owns the earth ,,,but,,, the Devil does have some power and authority on planet earth ,,,but,,,the Devils authority can be canceled by what King Jesus said at Matthew 28:18.
      SO, Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • Ted Crawford

    Just what response is Mr. Clawson attempting to create here? Someone in his position dosen’t make such a blatantly inflammatory comment without an intended result!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      By our responses he gauged our ideological stance.

  • ves

    If we’re deporting the muslim go first then anyone from a communist marxist socialist country and that includes Mexico!

    • http://www.facebook.com/robin.donalddevallon Robin Donald DeVallon

      Mejico is a beautiful country with beautiful peepol most of you jammers do not understand.. I never had any problems with those Latinos… even waking up one day finding a bunch of kids parked on what was left of my stripped convertible…. When I was thru paying them for remounting every piece back in place they let me go and waved bye bye… If you know poverty than you understand people… it´s a matter of turning the picture over and look at from the back side…. Donah..//

  • DISPENSER 4 HIRE

    These “Jews” so many people speak of, must be great and powerful wizards. There are so few of them, and yet so many people apparently are controlled by them, and live in fear of them. On the other hand, there could be a great number of dumb asses in the world.

  • AngelStar

    This reprobate, Mr. Clawson has worked with the World Bank and the IMF as an economist. He is nothing more than a maggot for the Global Banker Cartel.
    We the People need to have redress for the false flags that have been foisted on our country by our “esteemed” leaders.
    As far as Mr. Clawson is concerned, he’s just one more maggot to charge, arrest, convict and imprison for treasonist activities against our country.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      Gassing him would be cheaper than prison !

  • FRAN KIERAS

    LOOK, THE JEWISH COUNTRY (ISRAEL) ARE OUR FRIENDS AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. WE SHOULD LET BEBE HANDLE IT AND GIVE HIM ALL THE SUPPORTS HE NEEDS. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT GET OFF LINE.

    • http://none Charlie

      With friends like that , one does not need enemies ……………………..

    • Jimmy the Greek

      Fran you should go there and do it your self !

  • Robert

    I don’t trust Israel. They are up to no good. Remember 1967 U. S. S. Liberty attack.

    • FRAN KIERAS

      NO I DON’T, WHAT ABOUT IT

      • http://none Charlie

        Fran,,,

        word search ,,,USS Liberty ,,, happened 1967 , about 20 Sailors killed ,,,ship almost sank BY ISRAELIE AIRforce ,,, BUT,,,evidence and witness save by King Jesus, who is The King of The
        Jews…

  • El Love

    I frankly don’t think Obama wants a war, I think he just wants us to be invaded and shown that we are not the world leaders and no longer a superpower….. he is waiting for our demise.

  • darrelljr

    This will happen, but for reasons not mentioned in the article. Remember Saddam Hussein being taken out? What was he doing? Weapons of mass destruction which was never found,>- No, he was selling oil for gold and not U.S. dollars.
    Remember Qaddafi in Libya and him being being taken out? What did he do? He was selling oil for gold as well and not in U.S.dollars.
    Now, what has Iran just started doing, they just started selling oil for gold and not U.S. dollars- are you beginning to see a pattern here?
    The foundation of the dollar is oil and if you think that the U.S. will let any country threaten that foundation your just being fooled about the same old weapons of mass destruction Flase Flag. AGAIN

    • Jimmy the Greek

      100% on the money darrelljr !

  • John P. Lee

    wolfman says:

    I am a vet and was in combat with Jews in Vietnam. We had 16 Jews in our Company. They were as hard fighters as any. I am proud to have served with them!! And yes 3 died fighting for the U.S.A.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      You should have fraged them when you had the chance !

  • Jay

    It’s always interesting to view comments such as these. They always seem to bring out the “budding theologians.” With regard to Israel and the Jews, last time I looked at a map of the region Israel was flanked by the Med Sea on one side, and it’s enemies on all other sides. How does such a small footprint, and such a small percentage of the region’s population incite such rage aginst so many? Are they the real antagonists? It has been said by Benjamin Netanayu (SP) that “if Israel’s enemies laid down their arms there would be peace in the region, but if Israel laid down its arms it would be destroyed.” Compelling argument I think. The real antagonists are easy to spot….they are the one’s hell bent on “wiping Israel from the face of the Earth.” For all those critical of the Jews please cite one country in world history that was anti-semitical and survived? I salute the Jewsish community for taking a strong stance on their defense, and for the countless contributions to the world in health and science.

    • TML

      Jay says, “wiping Israel from the face of the Earth.”

      First of all, that phrase was never said…

      Jay says, “…last time I looked at a map of the region Israel was flanked by the Med Sea on one side, and it’s enemies on all other sides. How does such a small footprint, and such a small percentage of the region’s population incite such rage aginst so many?”

      If you haven’t noticed, Israel itself is an unlawful occupation of Palestine. The Gaza Strip and West Bank (all that remains of Palestinian lands) are under constant encroachment. The inhumane deeds of Israel against Palestinians are ignored by the west as they blindly support the occupation for religious and political reasons. When your eyes are open, it’s not hard to see how such a small percentage of the region’s population incites rage against themselves. I would think that if you are religious, it should be understood that God brings/allows these surrounding nations against Israel, for a reason.

      Jay says, “Are they the real antagonists?”

      I think it’s clear that they are… they are itching for a war with Iran.

      Jay says, “It has been said by Benjamin Netanayu (SP) that “if Israel’s enemies laid down their arms there would be peace in the region, but if Israel laid down its arms it would be destroyed.” Compelling argument I think.”

      Not necessarily… Iran is merely developing Nuclear Energy as per the Non-Proliferation Treaty allows. Israel, whom is one of 4 countries which is not party to the Treaty, wishes war upon Iran based merely on misguided fear, as if to be Iran’s dictator on what energy and technology is available to them. Need to wake up, Jay

      Jay says, “For all those critical of the Jews please cite one country in world history that was anti-semitical and survived?”

      Hmm… seems like circular reasoning given as rhetoric. So any country anti-semitical (aka critical of Jews) has not survived? Perhaps that could be viewed as Israel agressing against any country that is critical of them, and supported by big brother. I think that rhetoric paints Israel in the same light as most here see Islam.

      • Thor

        “Israel itself is an unlawful occupation of Palestine…”

        Obviously, TML, you don’t know the history of the region very well. Abraham lived in Palestine along with a number of tribes who did not call themselves Palestinians and Jews continued to live there long after the diaspora. None of the folk who claim to be Palestinians in the Golan, etc. made that claim until 1948 and they can make no claim to that land that the ‘other sons of Abraham,’ the Jews cannot also make. Your reasoning is not circular…it’s broken…or absent.

        Whether Israel existed or not, the US would still be an adversary of Iran. The Ayatollahs have been orchestrating world terrorism since 1979. Their goal is a world dominated by Islam and anyone who opposes or simply tries to ignore them is an adversary.

        Perhaps you should refrain from commentary until you are up to speed on the history and politics of the region….starting around 2500 BCE.

      • TML

        Thor says “Obviously, TML, you don’t know the history of the region very well. Abraham lived in Palestine along with a number of tribes who did not call themselves Palestinians and Jews continued to live there long after the diaspora.”

        I do know the history pretty well I think, but I don’t consider the story of Abraham as quantifiable history to make a claim on the land. But I agree that the same people at such time did not refer to themselves as Palestinians, and that such people co-existed with Jews.

        Thor says, “None of the folk who claim to be Palestinians in the Golan, etc. made that claim until 1948 and they can make no claim to that land that the ‘other sons of Abraham,’ the Jews cannot also make. Your reasoning is not circular…it’s broken…or absent.”

        Actually, it was first called Palestine after the Roman Empire annexed the land. Palestine made a declaration of Independence after Jews began trying to take the land they inhabited before the time of Roman occupation, under the modern Zionist movement, but still not recognized by Israel or the United States.

        Thor says, “Whether Israel existed or not, the US would still be an adversary of Iran. The Ayatollahs have been orchestrating world terrorism since 1979.”

        Interesting you should say that. I do agree that the United States would still be an adversary of Iran, because the United States overthrew the first vestiges of Iranian democracy in 1953 with a CIA engineered coup to over throw Mossadegh. The 1979 hostage crisis which you call an orchestration by Ayatollah was orchestrated by students, as a direct result of the events in 1953. In fact, one of the demands the students made was for the United States to extradite the Shaw who was taking refuge in America, to stand trial for crimes against the people. All of this had nothing to do with religion or Israel, but oil. And so I agree… the U.S. would still be an adversary. But understand that it was the United States which instigated the conflict.

        Thor says, “Their goal is a world dominated by Islam and anyone who opposes or simply tries to ignore them is an adversary.”

        I could truthfully say that same thing about all three Abrahamic religions.

  • Jay

    “wiping Israel from the face of the Earth.” That quote, almost word for word was spoken by none other than the great leader of Iran (insert sarcasm) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad….more than once!

    “unlawful occupation of Palestine.” REALLY?? Do you really want to debate that? How far back would you like to go? When you really peel back the onion and look at the Palestenian people can you please explain from which Arab nation they originated? Oh, and speaking of being unlawful, does blowing up a bus full of Israeli citizens violate the law in anyway?

    “Itching for a war with Iran.” Any country that overtly conveys its intent to wipe out another country has a right to defend itself. If Israel waits for Iran to develope “peaceful nuclear energy,” then put that “peaceful nuclear energy” on the tip of a missile for safe transport to Jerusalem….I’m thinking it might be a little late to respond. The Nuclear Proliferation Treaty was not intended for countries who intended to use that technology to wipe out another country. Again, not my words….Ahmadineajad’s words. As far back as I recall, Israel has never threatened to “wipe another country from the face of the Earth.” So for them to have nuclear capability is a deterent to war, which Iran, by the way should consider closely.

    Ok you got me….are there countries which have been anti-semitical and survived? Sure, they are currently surrounding Israel today, among other places. However look at the ruins of Germany in the closing days of WW 2 for a current example. Or, if you want to go further back into antiquity look at Egypt during the Exodus. Or the Assyrians when they invaded historic Israel.

    TML, I don’t wish to make this personal. I respect your opinion and your comments. Even your belief system, whatever that happens to be. However, I have NOTHING agains Islam, although I believe in something else. The only thing I have against Islam, or any other belief system is when some who adhere to it’s beliefs use it in violence against others. Put another way….think what you want, so long as you respect other’s rights to pursue their faith without waging a “Holy War” against them.

    Oh, and my eyes are always open. I’ve been to war 3 times in defense of my country….all against countries who were openly belligerent to Israel by the way, and I’ve learned to sleep with at least one eye open at all times!

    Have a nice day.

    • TML

      Jay says, “wiping Israel from the face of the Earth.” That quote, almost word for word was spoken by none other than the great leader of Iran (insert sarcasm) Mahmoud Ahmadinejad….more than once!

      No, the correct Farsi translation is, “the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.”

      For one, he was quoting the late Ayatollah Khomeini. Second, he referred to the occupying regime, particularly speaking out against Zionism (which is a different ideology than the actual Jewish faith), and not the land mass, or all the inhabitants as a whole. There is not even an idiom in Farsi for “wipe off the map”. It’s merely fear mongering at its best.

      Jay says, “unlawful occupation of Palestine.” REALLY?? Do you really want to debate that? How far back would you like to go? When you really peel back the onion and look at the Palestenian people can you please explain from which Arab nation they originated? Oh, and speaking of being unlawful, does blowing up a bus full of Israeli citizens violate the law in anyway?”

      Sure, we can debate that. We can go as far back as you like. However, if you are going to debate, and claim rights to the land based on biblical stories… you should realize that the story of Abraham, or even the existence of such a man, is not supported by evidence… it’s an unsubstantiated religious story. One of the first pieces of evidence of their existence in the land comes from Egypt and simply refers to an ethnic group.

      To answer your question, the Palestinian people originated in Israel. They are the people indigenous since before the Roman Empire annexed the land and called it Palestine. Call it exile of Jews by God from Israel for not keeping his covenant or whatever….

      It has not belonged to the Jews all the way up to the 19th century at the advent of the Zionist movement, when it was decided that those currently inhabiting those lands for centuries should be “relocated” and treated like dogs, not even so much as compensating them for what they take without asking. Not only that; even taking land that was never theirs even back in the days of the Kingdom of Judah. It’s simply wrong, and unlawful.

      Jay says, “Itching for a war with Iran.” Any country that overtly conveys its intent to wipe out another country has a right to defend itself.”

      Well, I’ve already debunked the mistranslation.

      Jay says, “If Israel waits for Iran to develope “peaceful nuclear energy,” then put that “peaceful nuclear energy” on the tip of a missile for safe transport to Jerusalem….I’m thinking it might be a little late to respond. The Nuclear Proliferation Treaty was not intended for countries who intended to use that technology to wipe out another country.”

      There is a big difference in the enrichment of uranium for nuclear weapons verses ‘peaceful’ energy. You’re simply falling for the fear mongering used to try justifying preemptive war… not defense. The Non-Proliferation Treaty, to which they voluntarily remain a party to; disallows them to develop nuclear weapons, but allows them to develop nuclear energy. In fact, Iran has stated many more times that they are not interested in developing nuclear weapons… but of course, no one believes that… but they will believe that they said something they didn’t even say, such as “wipe Israel off the map”. Who is Israel, whom is not even party to the treaty, to dictate that a country cannot do something that the Treaty allows them to do?

      Jay says, “Again, not my words….Ahmadineajad’s words.”

      Again, neither were those words his.

      Jay says, “As far back as I recall, Israel has never threatened to “wipe another country from the face of the Earth.” So for them to have nuclear capability is a deterent to war, which Iran, by the way should consider closely.”

      While Iran has played by the rules under the NPT, and Israel has not… even refusing to let inspectors in… I do not see Israel as being justified in their actions or fears. It’s a false claim that Iran has threatened them with nuclear holocaust, which ironically, such false claim originates from Israel.

      And how do you arrive at the conclusion that Israel’s nuclear arsenal is a deterrent for war, when even they, obviously, don’t think it would be a deterrent? And again, how can you claim it a deterrent for war, when they are calling for war on Iran over the mere POSSIBILITY or PRESUPPOSITION (without evidence) that Iran is developing a nuclear weapon?

      Jay says, “However look at the ruins of Germany in the closing days of WW 2 for a current example. Or, if you want to go further back into antiquity look at Egypt during the Exodus. Or the Assyrians when they invaded historic Israel.”

      Well, the Exodus doesn’t even have any historical evidence to support that such an event ever happened. Not even in Egyptian history. But even we accept such a premise, then I would point out that Israel did not even originally belong to them. Per the biblical story, they came into the land and took it from those it belonged to. What does that say about your earlier question regarding the origin of Palestinians?

      Still, you entire comment here is more rhetoric which seems to rest soley on the religious idea that God will smite anyone who is critical of the Jews. This isn’t so… your current example of WW2, or Germany losing, had nothing to do with it being Jews… it could have just as well been blacks, or some other race.

      Even God, as it is written, did not unconditionally support the Jews, or Israel, and neither should we.

      Jay says, “TML, I don’t wish to make this personal. I respect your opinion and your comments. Even your belief system, whatever that happens to be.”

      I enjoy genuine civil intercourse of the matter

      Jay says, “However, I have NOTHING agains Islam, although I believe in something else. The only thing I have against Islam, or any other belief system is when some who adhere to it’s beliefs use it in violence against others. Put another way….think what you want, so long as you respect other’s rights to pursue their faith without waging a “Holy War” against them.”

      I agree, and I hold such view also to Israel and every other religion.

      Jay says, “I’ve been to war 3 times in defense of my country….all against countries who were openly belligerent to Israel by the way”

      Not to be too personal, but your views seem to be that of a modern day Crusader who relishes the defense of Israel, rather than an American patriot defending his own country half way across the globe.

      Jay says, “Have a nice day.”

      You too

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      I’m with you, TML! What Ahmadinejad was/is referring to with respect to Israel is, “Zionism”. His statement; “wiping Israel of the face of the earth” is a deliberate mis-translation. You are absolutely correct. The true Farsi translation is, “this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.” Kudos, TML!!!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Here we go again, unknown poster using identical moniker. Anyways, i should like to share this article with the good posters on this site.

    Once upon a time, a widely circulated Jewish document described Islam as “an act of God’s Mercy”.

    Also, Jews in the near East, north Africa and Spain threw their support behind advancing Muslim Arab armies.

    No, these aren’t fairy tales or propaganda. The relationship between Muslims and Jews really was that cooperative and marked by peaceful coexistence. Just ask Khalid Siddiqi of the Islamic Education and Information Center in San Jose, California where he also teaches Islamic Studies and Arabic at Chabot College and Ohlone College. Siddiqi notes that the first quote above is from S. D. Goitein’s book Jews and Arabs. The second is from Merlin Swartz’s ‘The Position of Jews in Arab lands following the rise of Islam’ (reprinted from The Muslim World. Hartford Seminary Foundation LXI1970).

    Swartz also says the Muslim Arab conquest marked the dawn of a new era. Those forces that had led to the progressive isolation and disruption of Jewish life were not only checked they were dramatically reversed. In an interview with Sound Vision, Siddiqi gave numerous examples of Jews flourishing under Muslim rule in places like Spain, Morocco, North African in general and various parts of the Middle East.

    Siddiqi points out that Islam as a religion has given specific guidelines for the followers of Islam to base their relationship with any non-Muslim. These include People of Scripture, like the Jews, people who belong to other religions, and even atheists. Non-Muslims must be treated on the basis of Birr (kindness) and Qist (justice), as referred to Surah 60 verse 8 of the Quran. It started at the time of the Prophet Mohammad (peace and blessings be upon him) The peaceful coexistence of Muslims and Jews began at the time of the Prophet.

    Siddiqi notes that the Jews welcomed the Prophet when he arrived in Madinah at the time of Hijrah (migration), along with the rest of the city’s inhabitants. But the Prophet had begun the step towards good relations with Jewish and other communities in Madinah even before getting there. After receiving an invitation to Madinah from one of the city’s tribes that had accepted Islam, the Prophet signed treaties with the city’s Jewish, Christian and polytheist tribes before he arrived there. These treaties clearly laid out responsibilities of each of the parties. It was based on these that the Prophet established the Mithaq al Madinah, the constitution of Madinah.

    Siddiqi says this was the first constitution of the world and one of the greatest political documents ever prepared by any human being. It is the oldest surviving constitution of any state. Under this constitution, any Jew who followed the Muslims was entitled to their assistance and the same rights as anyone of them without any injustice or partisanship. It said the Jews are an Ummah (community of believers) alongside the Muslims. The Jews have their religion and the Muslims theirs. As well, it noted that each will assist one another against any violation of this covenant. Despite this early breach of contract, there are still numerous examples from Muslim history of Muslim-Jewish cooperation and coexistence.

    Siddiqi gave examples of how Muslim Spain, which was a “golden era” of creativity and advancement for Muslims was also one for Jews.While Europe was in its Dark Ages and Jews were reviled there, Muslims in Spain during the same period worked side by side with Jews in developing literature, science and art. Together, they translated classical Greek texts into Arabic. This task later helped Europe move out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance. Jews flourished under Muslim rule in Egypt as well, where they achieved very high positions in government.

    Siddiqi quotes some lines from an Arab poet of that time, to illustrate: ‘Today the Jews have reached the summit of their hopes and have become aristocrats. Power and riches have they and from them councilors and princes are chosen’.

    Today: the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland has destroyed good Muslim-Jewish relations. So what happened?

    Although not the only cause, a large part of the deterioration in Muslim-Jewish relations comes from the emergence of Zionism, the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland by Zionist Jews and British colonizers, as well as their continuing oppression.

    Siddiqi says, “while this reaction results in anti-Jewish feeling it must be seen in its proper historical context. It must be remembered that anti-Jewish sentiments in so far as it is to be found in the contemporary Arab world is strictly a modern phenomenon and one that runs counter to the time honored Islamic tradition of fraternity and tolerance.

    “The very widespread popular notion that present day Arab-Jewish hostility is but another chapter in a long history of mutual animosity is totally false. If there is one thing the past makes clear it is precisely that Arabs and Jews can live together peacefully and in a mutually beneficial relationship. History also makes it very clear that they are the heirs to the Islamic tradition of openness and tolerance.”

    The key to reestablishing good relations between Muslims and Jews again is justice, notes Siddiqui. This principle is foreign to neither Islam nor Judaism.

    In Islam, standing up for justice, he points out, must be done even if it is against ourselves, our parents, our kin, the rich or the poor. This is clearly mentioned in the Quran (4:135). Siddiqi points out that the emphasis on justice is also mentioned in Jewish scripture in the prophecies of Michael in chapter three: “Zion shall be redeemed with justice and by those who will come to her with righteousness.”

    http://www.soundvision.com/Info/politics/jewhistory.asp

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    According to such insider texts as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Jewish power elite have made a virtual science of engineering desired changes by fomenting wars and revolutions. It is a dialectical strategy that has won them almost unimaginable power. I think a reasonable argument could be made that there never has been a successful revolution that was truly grass roots, at least not in the last hundred years or so. Real revolutions, whether social or political, seem always to come to us from the top down.

    Today, we watch from the edges of our seats as crazed men like Bibi Netanyahu sabre-rattle the Middle East toward igniting a Third World War. They decry Iran’s “nuclear ambitions”, when even Mossad has admitted Iran has no nuclear weapons in its arsenal. In fact, such warheads require uranium that is at least 90% enriched. Iran’s enrichment has pegged out at 20%, and they have shown no signs that they intend to take it higher. This is pretty much common knowledge by now. Even the MSM has admitted it. Yet the BeeBees and the Baraks continue to slaver their venom … as if they were blindly adhering to a script. Why?

    Because they are adhering, albeit not blindly, to a script. Their dialectic methods dictate that if you want to destroy a country, then you must demonize it first. We should remember that BeeBee’s current campaign of virulent rhetoric against Iran is but the culmination of a series of outbursts going back some twenty years.

    Iran’s nuclear power program began in the late 1970s. Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Iran’s pro-West puppet leader, embarked on an ambitious program to build upwards of 20 nuclear reactors. But then Western intelligence agencies reported that the Shah had intentions of putting together a secret nuclear weapons program.

    In 1979, a revolution deposed the Shah, and thus was born the Islamic Republic of Iran. If the Protocols are any indication, we can safely assume that the purpose of setting up the Islamic Republic was to create a bugbear, a Great Satan slated for destruction down the road. The new Iranian regime had no love for things nuclear. Ayatollah Khomeini denounced all forms of the technology and suspended the country’s nuclear activities. In 1984, engineers from West Germany visited the Bushehr nuclear facility. The reactor was still unfinished, and yet shortly thereafter, West German intelligence claimed that Iran’s effort to produce a nuclear bomb was “entering its final stages”.

    It was in 1992 that Israel started sounding alarms about a supposed Iranian nuclear threat. Bibi himself, then a parliamentarian, broke the ice by claiming that Iran was within five years of having The Bomb, and calling for “an international front headed by the US”. Sound familiar? That same year, Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, appearing on French TV, upped the date to 1999. “Iran,” he warned, “is the greatest threat and greatest problem in the Middle East, because it seeks the nuclear option while holding a highly dangerous stance of extreme religious militancy.”

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black — only this case, black was actually not the kettle’s color. Israel already had nukes. Iran had never even made an attempt to develop them. 1992 also saw both the House Republican Research Committee and CIA chief Robert Gates leveling similarly empty accusations from the States. Meanwhile, a “Defense Strategy for the 1990s”, leaked from the Pentagon, all but omitted Iran from its conflict scenarios. Why this discrepancy?

    Blur forward to 1995, and we had The New York Times pounding this same ominous drum, reporting US and Israeli officials’ “fears” that Iran, once again, was about five years from developing a nuclear arsenal. Then, in 1997, The Christian Science Monitor reported that, owing to political pressure on Iran’s suppliers, Iran had been “forced … to adjust its suspected timetable for a bomb.” The dreaded new outlook was a nuclear Iran within eight to ten years.

    The period in this saga from 1998 – 2002 began when we were told that Iran had test-launched a medium range missile. Now US and Israeli war hawks had a fresh new pretext for their allegations.

    In 1998, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Congress that Iran would have an ICBM capable of hitting the continental US — and can you guess how long he said it would take? Yawn. Five years.

    In 2002, we were given a ludicrous new specter called the Axis of Evil, a fiendish chimera combining three bogeymen: North Korea, Iraq, and of course, Iran. The MEK, an Iranian opposition group, in August of the same year, accused Iran of hiding enrichment facilities. Belief that Mossad had put them up to this accusation was widespread.

    In 2004, Secretary of State Colin Powell announced that Iran was trying to affix a nuclear warhead to a missile. In 2005, designs for nukes were alleged to have surfaced from an intercepted Iranian laptop. Iran categorically denied their authenticity, claiming intelligence agencies had forged them. Given such agencies’ known antics, this is not a far stretch.

    From 2006 to 2009, we saw intermittent flurries of thinly-veiled threats from the Bush administration and the Zionist-controlled media. All of them subsisted on the assumption that Iran would soon be a nuclear power and therefore a threat to the “free world”.

    Yet 2007 brought a harbinger to the present din of mixed signals. America’s 16 spy agencies released a combined National Intelligence Estimate in which they opined, “with high confidence”, that Iran’s nuclear ambitions had evaporated in 2003.

    In June 2008, US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton predicted an Israeli attack on Iran by January 2009. In May of that year, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee emphatically concluded that “There is no sign that Iran’s leaders have ordered up a bomb”.

    The foregoing timeline reveals Illuminati tactics at play. By periodically repeating the same lies, they condition the public into accepting a false premise. They use false flags (9-11) as a form of trauma-based mind control to sear that premise emotionally into the public mind. Then, while admitting truth that obviates the false premise, they steam ahead with their plans anyway.

    In 2007 General Wesley Clark revealed that Paul Wolfowitz indicated in 1991 that the Neo Con plan was to destabilize and oust the regimes in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.

    This last stage is to use imaginary nuclear weapons as a pretext to satisfy an arcane legal requirement.

    By then, the public are too disoriented to know what to think, so they can formulate no coherent opposition. The Illuminati use this non-reaction to justify their atrocities. This is an MO — repeated, via predictive programming and doublethink, ad nauseam throughout the annals of Zionist media and Hollywood.

    What about the dissenting military brass, both American and Israeli, who have called an attack on Iran a suicide mission? What about all the recent friction between Netanyahu and Obama?

    I would like to believe, and indeed retain some hope, that these are signs of an unexpected turn of events, something the Zionist think tanks did not foresee. But my
    horse sense tells me it’s just a big soap opera, with celebrity spats woven into the denouement for good measure.

  • Carl Manning – Sic Semper Tyrannis

    Our beef is not with the State of Israel, per se. It’s with the present leadership of the State of Israel which was directly behind the State-sponsored false-flag Mossad operation of 9/11 in conjunction with the CIA, Pakistani, and Saudi intelligence agencies and our own MSM controlled by the CIA and Mossad/B’nai Brith/Jewish Mafia here in the US. These Jewish Neocons that have infiltrated our government, especially those with dual Israeli/US citizenship were directly involved in collusion with the Mossad and the CIA in pulling this off. The express purpose of 9/11 was to surround the common enemy of Iran. American servicemen have been slaughtered, maimed, and sacrificed for bloodthirsty neocons of the Jewish persuasion who, according to Jewish Halachah taught in the Talmud, find no fault with killing Goyim for the greater good of Israel. Halachah justifies usury against Goyim (Gentiles) but not against Jews. It even justifies murdering and raping goyim. A Jew guilty of murdering goyim is not held to the same accountability as goyim guilty of murdering Jews accordingto the Jewish Halachah, which is completely unBiblical. Jesus himself railed againstr these same completely unBiblical teachings being taight by the rabbis of His day. It is no wonder the Lord called them A DEN OF VIPERS and wasted no opportunity to embarrass them, call them hypocrites, and call them out for their evil!!! There are elements in the Jewish religion that are just as deadly and evil as elements in Islam. The Jewish-controlled MSM media in the US make damn sure you will never understand this aspect of Judaism.

  • gunner689AI

    The rags would have to start blowing up Walmarts or football stadiums to get our attention. Bread and circus keeps the masses passified. PC is BS & Diversity Sucks !!!!

  • http://none DogsBestFriend

    If Iranian nuclear reactors and enrichment facilities are for peaceful purposes as they claim, why do they have to be buried deep underground? And if they are for electrical power, where are the big electric transmission lines to carry their output? There should be no reason to refuse inspections of a nuclear program truly intended only for peaceful purposes. And why does such an oil-rich country need reactors for power generation?

    • Jimmy the Greek

      Tell that to isreal ! they well not let anyone see what they have .

  • Jimmy the Greek

    All you fools on here that think israel is Americas friend Google ( The Samson Option )

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