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ISPs Team Up With NSA To Monitor Internet Traffic

June 20, 2011 by  

ISPs Team Up With NSA To Monitor Internet Traffic

The National Security Agency (NSA) and Internet service providers (ISPs) are working together to monitor Internet traffic, with the reported goal of preventing foreign cyberattacks against defense firms.

The program uses sophisticated NSA tools to scan email and other digital traffic, seeking to identify any malicious programs that may be used to attack companies with defense contracts.

“We hope the… cyber pilot can be the beginning of something bigger,” Deputy Defense Secretary William J. Lynn III said, quoted by a article. “It could serve as a model that can be transported to other critical infrastructure sectors, under the leadership of the Department of Homeland Security.”

Thus far, the spying tools are being used only on commercial Internet traffic with significant ties to the Department of Defense. The participating ISPs are AT&T, Verizon and CenturyLink.

“We wouldn’t want this to become a backdoor form of surveillance,” James X. Dempsey, vice president for public policy at the Center for Democracy & Technology, a civil liberties group, told The Washington Post. Dempsey stressed that any extensions to the program would have to guarantee protections against government access to private Internet traffic.

“The U.S. government will not be monitoring, intercepting or storing any private-sector communications,” Lynn said, quoted by the article. “Rather, threat intelligence provided by the government is helping the companies themselves, or the Internet service providers working on their behalf, to identify and stop malicious activity within their networks.”

“The government needs to make up its mind about whether it wants to protect networks or collect intelligence,” Dempsey said.

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  • TIME

    Sure they are and its all to keep YOU safe from yourselfs. Oh how happy YOU should be. NOT!

    • Dan az

      Don’t you feel safer that the guvmnt is here to protect you?Kinda like the patriot act I&II.Makes me all warm an cozy.Germany 101 all over again.

  • Richard

    Key word here is “monitor,” which is long-standing government code for censorship. What part of the constitution do federal authorities not understand? All of it!
    Of course, ignoring the constitution became popularized by the mythologized tyrant, Abraham Lincoln. His “log cabin” beginnings (lots of people lived in log cabins back then) and clever wordings (justifying outrageous acts of violence: War Against Sovereign States)remind me of one of the most recent of his ilk, whose name I won’t mention, but his initials are Barry Sotero.

    • Al Sieber

      I second that.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

        And whats to prevent them, while they’re monitoring for terrorism, to also monitor for your political beliefs or affiliations. They could monitor for whatever they want, categorize them by creating different subject files, and then allow others to go back to any subject file and investigate for ideals that oppose their own, political or otherwise. Nice power if you’re allowed to attain it, and if the American people don’t stop this invasion of privacy by speaking out against it before it becomes standard operational procedure, they might find it’s their privacy that’s being invaded, with consequences they might not like, but will be too late to prevent. Orwell’s ’1984′ arrived a little late, and is using a slightly different medium, but with the same attributes as his imagined super TVs, which were the only technology of his time that could fulfill his predictions.

        • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

          Correct. And the apparatus to seize our communications systems is already built in and expanding and upgrading rapidly. Called in some areas EANS! As a radio engineer I installed parts of it years ago.

          Orwell had it figured out way ahead of time.

          And TV screens now hang on walls, a bit larger and we can have two-way monitoring by the government! Coming to your house soon! And when you have the TV screens in every room, so you never miss a program, they can never miss a chance to spy on you without your knowledge!

          • Kate8

            I got disconnected from the internet last Friday.

            I just spent an hour on the phone with my provider to straighten it out. They wanted to redo all my user information (after several years of it being fine the way it was) and change some settings, one allowing automatic access to some programs.

            I hate feeling uneasy about this stuff, but it really didn’t make sense.

    • Former Walmart person

      Lincoln was a mixed bag. A tyrant, to be sure, but he did stand up to the mega central banks of the time, and indeed, he was probbaly assasinated as a direct result. His green backs threatened the central bankers, and we can never have that, you see.

  • DanB

    “We wouldn’t want this to become a backdoor form of surveillance,”…

    Translation: It is. “… beginning of something bigger”

    “Thus far, the spying tools are being used only on commercial Internet traffic with significant ties to the Department of Defense.”

    We already know how they look for those with significant ties to terrorism. They put full body scanners in our airports and pat down little old ladies and young children. And if you object…. So if I use that reasoning, then because I live within these borders of the United States, white male, some form of Christian religion, and I am conservative, all these things must mean that I have some sort of connection to the Department of Defense? By the way, the closest I get is that I work for a retail chain that sells guns, fishing poles, tents, canoes, and so forth.

    So many different angles that the government of the US is trying to get their hooks into the internet!

    • kodster

      My sentiments, exactly, DanB!

      “We hope the… cyber pilot can be the beginning of something bigger,” Deputy Defense Secretary William J. Lynn III said, quoted by a article. “It could serve as a model that can be transported to other critical infrastructure sectors, under the leadership of the Department of Homeland Security.”

      LOL! That paragraph/statement just reeks of double-speak! If I didn’t have to rely on the Internet for my work and entertainment, because I can’t get cable here (only satellite TV available, or over the air, which sucks), I’d just shut her down! Won’t be long, the economy will force it to be shut down, because there will be no “infrastructure” to get it to me! When the grids go down, we’re all out of luck.

  • wandamurline

    I asked my granddaughter about Abraham Lincoln and what her school teaches her about him. She said her teacher “loved” Abraham Lincoln and that he was honest. I said that honesty was not one of his attributes…did you know that he put people in jail with out rit of habeas corpus…that he really didn’t care about ending slavery, that the real reason for the war was because the souther states were withdrawing from the union and he was not going to let that happen, so he used slavery as a way of declaring war on the south, when in effect the south was already beginning to end slavery on their own? Did you know that after the war, he sent his carpet baggiing troops to the south to teach them a lesson and they completely destroyed it…plantations were burned, people killed, crops ruined and churches destroyed? She looked at me so funny and said no, they don’t teach us that. I told her, well your grandmother intends for you to know the truth about a lot of our forefathers who are not what we think they were.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree with your statement about Abe Lincoln. we didn’t learn that in school.

      • kodster

        Nope, we were never taught that, in school. The truth of what happens in a lot of events are never fully told. Look at the Nazi movement in Germany. Boy, I bet a lot of skinheads here in the US would go up in arms if they ever found out that their faithful movement was based in homosexuality! LOL! Most of the skinheads that join the movement are avowed homophobes, and use Nazism to prove their masculinity. Look at the two that were convicted of murdering the college student in WY because he was gay. They were members of an Aryan Nation group. The truth is glossed over and hidden from people, to sanitize the event or person(s).

        • sybucket

          Nazism was not based on Homosexuality. You need to read some history. it is true that the SA was made up of many Homosexuals including their leader Ernst Rohm, but Hitler had all of them killed in “the night of the Long Knives”, in 1934 I belive. The SA was not the seat of Naxism, just a faciest organization that Hitler used to his own ends until he didn’t need them anymore.

          • Dennis

            Hitler was gay, he liked little boyz, if you look back you may see that somebody in DC is also a rainbow warrior, if not i bet he held one until it went soft.

    • eddie47d

      You took this off subject Wanda and if you believe that Lincoln was such an evil man it is okay to bring up his faults. I sincerely hope your granddaughter reflects on both points of views. Are there any Presidents after our Founding Fathers who had any decency in them? Are they all so corrupted that our history is a lie and a farce? Even Ronald Reagan can be torn to shreds with the same viciousness that I am seeing against Lincoln. He (Reagan) dumped regulations which set this nation on a course of unfettered scams and phony money deals on Wall Street. Big Pharma and Big Banks were let loose and all kinds of shenanigans evolved. Reagan partnered with Saddam and helped grow his military power. Then sat back and watched the Middle East implode with the Iraq-Iran conflict.The hatred hardened in that part of the world. Will you tell your granddaughter that? Will you tell her about the Iran-Contra affair? Will you tell her about the 750,000 who died in the Central American Wars almost exclusively at the hands of American trained forces? History can be cold and cruel and make some one’s hero look like the devil incarnate so is your granddaughter getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

      • kodster

        Eddie47d, the only president, in my opinion, who did anything right, and deserved to be placed back in office, but he refused after his one and only term? And even he wasn’t perfect, because he’s human, like the rest of us. That was George Washington, the first president of the USA. Power corrupts, bottom-line. Why do you think God didn’t really want to have a king over Israel? But the Israelites begged and whined for one, and the first king they chose, after God relented, was a despot, too (Saul). Why do you think God coordinated events to get him out of there, after the people realized their mistake, and replaced him with David. But even David was not perfect.

        Be careful of what you wish for, because you may just very well get it.

        • sybucket

          George Washington had 2 terms as President and set the precident of two terms. It was only after FDR was elected to more than two that Congress passed the law restricting future President to two.

          • Dennis

            In the case we have today, it should only be one term.

          • JC

            Disagree Dennis, but the second term should be 25 to life.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      Wasn’t it his VP who became President who really carried the vendetta to the South?

  • Jason

    The NSA hires Hackers that had the choice of jail or work for them and then these Cyber attacks happen and now the NSA gets to spy on the internet…huum, if that isn’t a problem reaction solution I don’t know what is. Besides, the Patriot Act is Null & Void since it was signed by auto-pen by Obama and exspcially since Congress wants him to Now sign it by his own hand. R.I.P. the Patriot Act Midnight the 26 May 2011. But, Congress will not recognize that asking Obama to now sign the act again proves it was unconstitutionally signed the first time. Why Obama did not give Biden the authority to sign it while he was away, we may never be told.

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      Does Biden have the knowledge and manual dexterity to properly sign a government document?

      • Jason

        Probably not or he didn’t want his name on such a draconian document.

  • Roper2

    The winner writes the history! According to the record Lincoln wanted to send the blacks to South America! Even Harriet Beecher Stowe, who wrote ‘Uncle Tom’s Cabin’ wanted to send Blacks back to Africa!! The first slavers in Africa were black africans of neighboring tribes!

    • kodster

      Right on the nail, Roper2! Good aim!

    • Kate8

      Weren’t the blacks offered the choice whether to return to Africa?

      Did they not establish the country of Liberia as a free nation for them?

      The fact that it didn’t end up doing well only speaks to the citizenry, not Lincoln.

      I don’t think they tried to force any of them to go there, but they were given a choice since they hadn’t a choice about coming here.

      Sorry, I’m a bit rusty on my history there, so I’m going off the cuff.

      • Al Sieber

        Yes Kate, that’s what I read too.

  • Sirian

    It perplexes me as to how Lincoln got involved in this discussion. The main topic concerns as to what lengths the ISP’s and NSA will now go. But the only thing that most of you are obviously not aware of or simply will not accept – the NSA has had the power for at least twenty years to listen into and record any call, any e-mail, any form of communication that is carried out without the people involved being aware of it. What’s with all of you??? I have a couple friends that have worked for the NSA and this has come up in general conversations – it’s actually laughed about! They don’t interfere with you they simply maintain a very complex guard against more than you can possibly be aware of. What was the NSA originally formed for? To what levels of security is their main objective? Trust me, there are levels beyond your wildest dreams and they have absolutely nothing to do with anyones day to day life. If they were to release all of these different levels of security and what they involve you’d laugh at it since it would seem as some idiots attempt at science fiction. I wouldn’t worry much with this for it has been basically happening for a very, very long time and none of you knew. At least you should now be aware and determine on your own as to how you may wish to react. Rationally I prefer.

    • kodster

      Exactly, Sirian… the NSA is more insidious than the CIA. Only because these two spy agencies are at the bottom of the ladder, are we aware of them.

      • Bob Marshall

        WE should have been aware of the CIA since they are responsible for the deaths of almost seven million men, women and children in third word countries since 1947 until the present. Read about the Motoze massacre in El Salvador.Obama and congress just increased their funds to fifty billion. Not bad for a nation with few jobs.there is little difference between the FBI,CIA and NSA.They all take away from our freedom and liberites. Forget the Constitution because it doesn’t exist anymore.

  • LuluBelle

    “The U.S. government will not be monitoring, intercepting or storing any private-sector communications,” Lynn said, quoted by the article.


    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      Don’t they monitor folks such as Weiner in the Government?

      • JC

        Apparenlty they don’t see Weiner’s weiner as a threat to anyone ;)

  • i41

    Roper2, and the muslim perverts were the drovers who trailed the blacks to the load out facilities. Guess all the idiots, who vote for all the marxist/communist democrats, and keep sending these smucks to the beltway.That these idiots would do anything except, plan and create more government control to destroy the USA, and create a dictatorship. wandamurline, Read a historical book titled “Dirty American Scondral”, on the reconstruction of the south and the sorry pukes who were in charge. It has facts on what smucks were in the beltway and who was working with Lincoln. The same Lincoln who padded his mileage, to collect more travel pay. Lincoln was not honest Abe, he was more like Dingy Harry of Nevada.

  • Dons621

    Keep me safe from terroist, HMM I have too many “page cannot be dislayed” on conterversual topics. I guess the Terroist do not want me to be INFOMED — RIGHT DUH!!

    • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

      They are your friends, remember. Watching over you to correct any deviations that might hurt you!

  • Bob from Calif.

    They are just tightening the grip on Americas freedoms. The police state is just about in place.

    • Dan az

      Actually Bob it’s already here,There just refining it as they remove the bill of rights.
      We just keep waiting for the first shot to be fired while the whole time they are stripping us all for the gas chambers.
      The question is do we stand up now or wait for the finally?
      Lock and load people you will be hearing the jack boots coming up the walk way soon.

      • http://Moreexpensive,moreunknowproblems. Lewis Munn

        Sorry, but my ammo dealer has had no ammo for about 2 years now!!

        • Al Sieber

          Order it from “Cheaper Than Dirt”.

          • Dan az

            Hey Al
            That the one I use.Good for you!

  • i41

    Remember how to make gunpowder, and save tire weights, for slugs making. I learned how to black smith from my Granddad and my Dad, stuff that is too old fashioned and isn’t on a computer. Better wake up and grab a axe!


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