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Is Romney Firing Blanks On Gun Support?

April 16, 2012 by  

Is Romney Firing Blanks On Gun Support?

Mitt “varmint hunting” Romney joined the National Rifle Association at its annual meeting in St. Louis on Friday.

In the NRA’s mission statement the organization says its express goals are to “promote firearms and hunting safety, to enhance marksmanship skills of those participating in the shooting sports, and to educate the general public about firearms in their historic, technological and artistic context.”

Many of the organization’s members are likely wary of Romney’s record on guns, considering his proverbial “Etch A Sketch” rhetoric concerning the issue.

Here are a few of Romney’s past positions concerning gun control:

  • In 1994, Romney backed two gun-control measures that were strongly opposed by the NRA: a ban on certain assault weapons and the Brady Law, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales. “I don’t think (the waiting period) will have a massive effect on crime, but I think it will have a positive effect,” he said. Also in 1994, Romney, speaking about his devotion to tough control laws, said he did not line up with the NRA.
  • While running for Governor of Massachusetts in 2002, Romney said: “We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won’t chip away at them.”
  • In 2004, as Governor of the State, Romney made good on the promise by signing a complete assault rifle ban into law, declaring the firearms “instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.”
  • During his Gubernatorial tenure, Massachusetts approved raising the fee on gun licenses from $25 to $100.

Romney took a bit of a turn on the issues during his first Presidential run. Romney told The Washington Post in 2008:

I believe we need to focus on enforcing our current laws rather than creating new laws that burden lawful gun owners. I believe in safe and responsible gun ownership and that anyone who exercises the right to keep and bear arms must do so lawfully and properly. I do not believe in a one-size-fits-all federal approach to gun ownership because people keep and use firearms for different reasons. Law-abiding citizens have a right to protect their homes and their families and as President, I will vigorously defend that right.

In a 2007 interview, Romney told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos:

…I’m a strong proponent of Second Amendment rights. I believe people, under our Constitution, have the right to bear arms. We have a gun in one of our homes. It’s not owned by me, it’s owned by my son, but I’ve always considered it sort of mine. (Emphasis added.)

Borrowing his son’s gun that is kept in one of his homes was apparently enough, however, for the candidate to sign up for a lifetime membership to the NRA before his first Presidential run. Perhaps it is even enough for the millions of Americans who keep several guns in their one home for self-defense, hunting and sport shooting to believe that the candidate is sincere in his devotion to protecting 2nd Amendment Rights.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • FreedomFighter

    Any congressman or woman that does not believe in gun rights should have all thier security people stripped of weapons.

    The outrage and screaming to get the weapons back by these 2 faced liars err, congress people could be heard in Montana.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Robert Smith

      Romney: “I’m a strong proponent of Second Amendment rights. I believe people, under our Constitution, have the right to bear arms. We have a gun in one of our homes. It’s not owned by me, it’s owned by my son, but I’ve always considered it sort of mine.”

      Does anyone else remember Carl T. Rowan? He had his own version of “stand your ground” in his back yard WITH HIS SON’S GUN.

      Rob

      • FreedomFighter

        Your one twisted mental case Mr Smith, seek help

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Robert Smith

        Thank you for that fine insight (not) about how relatives can get guns and no amoount of gun control will stop it.

        Guess no matter what the message is “shoot Rob” is the policy. Again, thanks for that insight.

        Rob

      • TML

        Robert Smith says, “Does anyone else remember Carl T. Rowan? He had his own version of “stand your ground” in his back yard WITH HIS SON’S GUN.”

        Not sure what you’re trying to say here, but, you do understand that Rowan was a black man, Democrat, and strict gun control advocate who shot a white teenager, right?

      • texastwin827

        Additonal comments on Rowan…he lived in DC…you know, where NO gun was legal? It had nothing to do with the gun belonging to his son. He was tried and the jury deadlocked…and he also was NOT retired.

        So, basically, there is no correlation with Rowan & Romney….just typical bs

      • http://comcast the fisherman

        Mitt is Mitt he has to be told what to do. He has that saying first you say you do and then you say you don’t. One lost puppy

      • http://Aol CommonSense4America

        Fisherman,,,sounds like a song coming on here. First you say you do,,and then you don’t…..

    • Al

      I think the word should be wary instead of weary. I’m not tired of Romney’s retoric, I’m leery of it and questioning of its sincerity based upon past history. Too bad so few people speak and write English as their primary language these days. It’s also too bad that so few of our elected officials take an oath to pretect and defend the Constitution and then spend all their days trying to find ways around it or ways to reinterpret it instead of defending it. Isn’t lying to a federal official an impeachable offense?

      • Paul

        Yes, lying to a federal official is a punishable crime, but it seems its okay for them to lye to you. I reckon they’re so different in our population.

        After all, we’re their subjects and they’re our masters. So they think.

    • Paul

      On their anti-gun beliefs, they shouldn’t even feel they need body guards, but it seems they feel the are special and need armed guards.

      My question then: What makes them so different from me in security? Aren’t I entitled to security like them?

      • Robert Smith

        No Paul, you are not “entitled.” They are candidates and thus get protection. You as a citizen have to provide for your own security.

        I’m amazed to see the word “entitlement” from anyone on the right.

        Rob

      • TML

        Robert Smith says, “No Paul, you are not “entitled.” They are candidates and thus get protection. You as a citizen have to provide for your own security.”

        Personally, I don’t believe candidates should be “entitled” to security any more than a citizen, and should provide their own protection as well.

      • Robert Smith

        ” I don’t believe candidates should be “entitled” to security any more than a citizen, and should provide their own protection as well.”

        So only a cat fat enough to add the cost of protection can run. Another block for someone not of the 1%?

        Rob

      • TML

        Robert Smith says, “So only a cat fat enough to add the cost of protection can run. Another block for someone not of the 1%?”

        Not necessarily… Ron Paul is running and not using tax payer dollars for protection.

        However, I would come closer to believing that a candidate could have a concealed firearm to protect himself, before I would consider it a ‘block’ from someone not in the “1%” to run.

      • Leber Saxet

        It seems to me that if they were not useless, honorless, lieing SOBs, they would not need security people at all. The fact that they do feel the need for armed guards is proof that they intentionally screw the American people on a daily basis and are worried someone might catch on and solve the problem in a permanent manner.

      • Anonymous

        Paul, OF COURSE you have a right to protect yourself just like “they” do, and with or without the 2nd Amendment, you STILL have a right to defend yourself because, contrary to government belief and so called “Public Policy,” our RIGHTS come from God and nowhere in the Bible or the Constitution does it say that our RIGHTS may be turned into so called “PRIVILEGES” by so called holier than thou corrupt politicians. We also have a God given RIGHT to travel. Therefore, why have they turned this RIGHT into a so called “PRIVILEGE” whereby we must get a “LICENSE,” which is, in effect, nothing more than ASKING THEIR PERMISSION to exercise our God given right to TRAVEL? Exactly who do “THEY” think “THEY” are that WE need to ask THEIR “permission” to travel down the street in our privately owned, (in theory anyway) vehicles. As the old saying goes, “They put their pants on one leg at a time just like we do, eh?” Are not ALL MEN created equal. Of course they are …….. EXCEPT in the MINDS of these CORRUPT SOCIOPATHS, aka “politicians.” They somehow actually have come to believe that they are as high above US as the heavens are above the earth. Guess what? When the Lord comes back, they are in for a HUGE surprise. The Bible says that “The oppressors, (that would be our illustrious politicians), shall BECOME the oppressed,” (that would be us … for now) – I didn’t say that. The Bible did, and they aren’t going to like it unless they get their act together VERY SOON! Time is much shorter than they think. They have plans of “ruling the world” for years to come. I hate to break it to them, but they probably have 10 years or less to “rule the world.” God’s time clock is ticking, not to mention He said he would even “shorten the days” lest even the very Elect be deceived, (by the Anti-Christ). They are going to have their NWO for a while, but not for NEARLY as long as they think. God has a different plan. He is coming back and He and His saints will make war with the rulers of this world at the Battle of Armageddon, and the Lord will put them down, and HE will rule for 1000 years. Anyone can read this for themselves in the Book of Revelation – including “THEM” if they should be so inclined, which I doubt, since they are doing everything in their power to get rid of God, so that they can BE “gods” (in their own minds). They also want a “one world religion,” and are working on the propaganda for that one as we speak. Please do not fall for this crap! I ask you truly …… what does Christianity have in common with Islam or Buddhism or any other religion? I’ll leave that to YOU to think about, and then you will see how ridiculous this notion of a one world religion is.

        • RichE

          God given RIGHT. Did you get that in writing?

      • http://Aol CommonSense4America

        Anonymous,,,very good post.

    • ArkansasRebel

      Outstanding comment FreedomFighter. One has to wonder how any Congressperson
      would fare if their security personel did not have firearms,

      • Robert Smith

        “One has to wonder how any Congressperson
        would fare if their security personel did not have firearms..”

        When is the last time a sitting member of Congress was shot? Oh! That’s right, I remember. She was a “liberal,” in a state with relatively easy gun laws.

        When is the last time a doctor was shot? Ohhhhh, that’s right it was Tiller.

        Hmmmmm, seems to me it’s the extreme right that is engaging in political shooting.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        The state of S Dakota wanted to legalize the killing of abortion doctors so we do know the state of mind of many Conservatives when it comes to weapons. It sometimes comes down to having the ability to take the law into your own hands and not always for self defense. SOME of their minds are only a notch above the common bank robber in misuse of this “tool”. .

      • Mark in LA

        And it seems Robert Smith is engaging in lying since Giffords was shot by a paranoid schizophrenic and politics had nothing to do with it.

      • TML

        Robert Smith says, “When is the last time a sitting member of Congress was shot? Oh! That’s right, I remember. She was a “liberal,” in a state with relatively easy gun laws.”

        Robert Smith says, “Hmmmmm, seems to me it’s the extreme right that is engaging in political shooting.”

        How on earth do you arrive at the conclusion that the shooter was from the “right” merely because the victim (one of many that day) was liberal? That is a fantastic leap in logic there Robert.

      • Robert Smith

        Let’s see… Haven’t I heard things similar to this somewhere before?????? Ohhhh, that’s right! Right here from the right. Can’t say some of it wasn’t inspirational to Loghner.

        “With the suspect in custody, the media has been parsing rambling online commentaries allegedly posted by Loughner. Among them: a video on YouTube (“I can’t trust the current government because of fabrications. The government is implying mind control and brainwash on the people by controlling grammar”)

        Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2041427,00.html#ixzz1sE9MTxLP

        Rob

      • TML

        From your own source Robert…

        “What is not clear is what role politics — and, in particular, the red-hot rhetoric of the mid-term elections — played in the shooting. Descriptions one of Loughner’s high school classmates posted on Twitter only added to the mystery… …‘caitieparker tweeted. “As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.” And, most ominously, “He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was ‘stupid & unintelligent.’”

  • cawmun cents

    In the 80′s,then mayor of San Fransisco Dianne Feinstein was a politician who talked of tough gun control laws,yet carried one on her person.She made a law in SF which banned the ownership of firearams,while keeping one on herself.
    This is the same kind of hypocrisy we see today.
    These folks want to make laws that protect them and their filthy laws,while taking defensive capabilities away from the ordinary citizen.They think that their laws will protect the people,and that we would be better served living in a police state.
    If what they think was true,then why the need to carry a gun yourself,or cart a detail of the secret service with you at all times?Is it that there are citizens out there that dont appreciate the laws which they pass so much?Is it a case where those laws are incapable of protecting the legislator,but serve well to protect the ordinary citizen?
    If they think that their laws will protect all who live under them,then why do they hire a team of professionals to protect them,using tax revenues stolen from the common citizen,by enacting laws designed to do so,to protect themselves?
    Hmmmmmm.
    You would think this would arouse suspicion in the citizenry?But that,of course,depends on how the citizenry of the area which the legislator has control over,thinks government has the power to do with their lives.I believe the English would say,”its a bit of a sticky wicket!”
    Then again the English trust their governing bodies way more than the American citizen does,apparently.It seems to be a sort of a feudal fealty if you ask me.Since our legislators are not called”lords”or”ladies”,but Fortunately for us that particular title of”Lord”is given to a much higher authority,we lend them less trust than we do the deity.
    With the exception I suppose of those who give the gubment powers of deity over them,much like San Fransisco,in the case of Feinstein,our folks dont like the legislators to enact laws which they are not required to live under themselves.
    Its considered hypocritical.
    So why do we tolerate it when these folks do these things to protect themselves,and not the common man?
    Take the healthcare law for instance.
    If the legislator was down with making this the same rule they lived under,perhaps it wouldnt seem so hypocritical to the common citizen?
    But these quasi-elitists consider themselves special.
    Too special to subject themselves to what they prescribe to the common citizen.
    So what then,separates the American citizen from the United Kingdom citizen(besides the Atlantic ocean)?
    It is the fact that they dont really know exactly who has what in their closets at home.
    The fact that hundreds of millions of people keep firearms in their houses and on their persons.
    Did you catch that number?Hundreds of millions?
    What other country can this be said of?
    Bupkiss,zilch,zero.
    Just the good ol’ U.S of A.
    Apparently this scares the hell out of the legislators and other indigenous folk of the world.
    They would love to change that statistic.
    Cant wait to see em’ try.
    Cheers!
    -CC.

    • Robert Smith

      From cc: “This is the same kind of hypocrisy we see today.”

      It isn’t just from the left cawmun…

      Remember Larry Craig?

      Remember the question is: How many Republicans can you fit in the closet? The answer is: Eventually all of them on one subject or another.

      Remember Mark Foley? He was unable to withstand the text of time and got caught sending instant messages to boys.

      Oh Oh! Remember Ted Haggard?

      Bob Allen?

      Glenn Murphy Jr.

      Oh, were we taling about hypocrisy or gun control?

      Rob

      • ArkansasRebel

        Read Romans 1:28

      • Robert Smith

        Why? I don’t care about your bible babble.

        And apparently the right wingers who got caught didn’t either.

        Rob

      • cawmun cents

        I only used Senator Feinstein as a localized observation,Robert Smith.I am from Northern California.
        I never intended to make it about the left right paradigm.
        What side of the fence folks jump to in times of distress is not my concern here.
        Rather it is one of legislation aimed at protection for the elite,and subjugating the common man/woman.I understand that your derision of republicans is both well documented and

      • Robert Smith

        cc is wrong again: “I understand that your derision of republicans is both well documented and”

        Quit lying cc. I’ve told you before…

        I’m a Goldwater Republican. The original and true conservative, NOT one of the latest batch of right wing nuts calling themselves “conservative.”

        Rob

  • TIME

    WOW,
    What a question, Mitt having an answer that he may not replicate after he gets what he wants for his masters {the Banking Elite the Rothschilds by way of their puppets Goldman Saks.} Thats really quite clear by what Mitt himself use’s; Noted as (his past record.)

    Go figure, how on earth could that ever happen? I mean afterall Politicians never LIE to get what they want – now do they?

    People if you don’t take your power back with Dr. Ron Paul in November 2012 — please don’t cry about the events that are going to be starting in January 2013.
    Oh did I note that Guns will be outlawed? I mean afterall YOUR now Outlaws that happened on December 31st 2011 also known as the NDAA. Oh and just for the record, that passed the CONgress by all but the 3 NO’s one of the NO’S was Dr. Ron Paul. It also passed the SENate by all by two Votes, one of the two NO’S was Dr, Pauls son!
    So you that think you will have your guns will have a lot of “RE”thinking if you voted for old Mit the Goldman Saks hand puppet rather than Dr. Ron Paul.

    There is no time like now to change and start fixing the root of the problems, OR – you can just keep pushing straight on to the gates of hell, YOUR Choice.

    Dr, Pauls record is quite clear, ” He says what he means, and he means what he says.”
    Oh wait thats not what Americans want now is it?
    No they like nice hair, and people who can sell them a bag of Crap that sounds good and yet is still just a bag of crap!

    Dr. Ron Paul can beat the Oman without breaking stride, why — more Independants will vote for Dr. Paul than the Oman, Nearly all Democrats who have a brain will vote for Dr, Ron Paul – so that begs the question: what the hell is wrong with many of you Republicans?
    The only differance between Mitt and the Oman is one is a tad taller. Both are 100% totaly controled by the very same WEALTH, as in there will be NO differance in the outcome at the end of the day with either one. Again YOUR choice, what will it be?

    Peace and Love

    • Robert Smith

      From Time: “I mean afterall YOUR now Outlaws that happened on December 31st 2011 also known as the NDAA.”

      I’ve never seen the connection how that impacts individual gun ownership in America. Can you give us a particular quote?

      Rob

      • TIME

        Mr. Smith,

        If you so wish to post your mindless questions / remarks within your post as if they were pearls of wisdon, would you then – Please learn how to frame your questions in a way that presents some form of basic inteligence.
        That is rather than that of a spolied mindless 3 year old tossing peas around the room.

        Peace and Love,

      • Robert Smith

        Still no information about the specifics from Time about how our guns (yes, our… I own several guns) are going to be taken away by the United Nations.

        Typical of the extreme right… Yup, attack, attack, attack, apparently without any basis. Thanks for another fine example of right wing “discussion” Time.

        Rob

      • TIME

        Oh Mr. Smith,

        Extreeme Right ? Of whom would you be speaking of? As you clearly have no clue about much of anything; JFTR – l – based that slolely on your post here daily.

        There is no extreem Righ, nor Left, Nor are there really Democrats, nor even Republicans in the City State of the D. C.
        But as you like to parrot the totaly controlled mass media spin – Its quite obvious that you will never figure out whats going on and thats just fine Mr. Smith you can also think that monkeys can fly too.
        Hey – You can even eat Tree Bark and think its a New York Strip if thats what flips your nipples.

        You know the more I think about it Mr. Smith you remind me of one of my insurance agents clients who wrote the following years back as the reason he was look into an insurance claim.
        { I Though my window was down, but I found out it was up when I put my head through it.}

        Peace and Love, even to you Mr. Smith.

    • Alex

      I hope and pray that Ron Paul runs as a Third Party, or, rather, a Third RAIL candidate, thus insuring Barack Obama four more years to grow up and stop being a middle-of-the-road Capitalist.

      • James Andrews

        God help us if we have to put up with this anti-American socialist moron.

    • RichE

      Time,
      Just what is the, ‘Root’ of the problem?

  • dg

    If you are anti-Romney, then that makes you pro-Obama by default as it appears that Romney probably has the nomination and Ron Paul is now a footnote. Wake up and get a grip.

    • Robert Smith

      From dg: “If you are anti-Romney, then that makes you pro-Obama by default as it appears that Romney probably has the nomination and Ron Paul is now a footnote.”

      If you want confiration about Romney take a look at who elected him! It was the exact same folks in MA who kept sending Ted Kennedy back time and time again.

      Please keep in mind that the only gun issues that Obama has done anything with is to allow guns in the same parks Bush said it was OK to have them in. He simply renewed that policy.

      I’m sure that the extreme right can IMAGINE what Obama may do, but the reality is far from that.

      Rob

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Rob

        Obama has done nothing these first four years compared to what he will do to distroy this great country if he gets another four years with no election to stop his undesireables on our nation.

      • Robert Smith

        As I mentioned and I’ll repeat for Brad: “I’m sure that the extreme right can IMAGINE what Obama may do, but the reality is far from that.”

        Rob

      • CZ52

        “Please keep in mind that the only gun issues that Obama has done anything with is to allow guns in the same parks Bush said it was OK to have them in. He simply renewed that policy.”

        Robert Smith you are almost as adept as Flashy at telling lies. Obama DID NOT “simply renew the policy” obama had the park service ruling on concealed carry in federal parks rescinded for “further study”. When obama was pushing for his credit reform bill so hard a sharp congressman attached an amendment allowing concealed carry in national parks to the bill. obama signed the bill because he wanted the so called credit reform more than he wanted the fight over the amendment.

      • CZ52

        Obama stated after he was elected president that the only reason he would not seek new gun control laws was the fact he did not have the votes to assure their passage. Obama stated his agreement with the idea of banning the manufacture, sale, and posession of pistols when he was running for office in Illinois. Obama called for the renewal of the so called assualt weapon ban you know the one that didn’t ban assualt weapons but rather the semi-auto only look-alikes.

      • Robert Smith

        But the assault weapons ban hasn’t come back.

        FACT.

        Do you really believe Romney will let you keep your guns?

        Rob

      • CZ52

        Obama stated after he was elected president that the only reason he would not seek new gun control laws was the fact he did not have the votes to assure their passage. That is why he hasn’t tried to renew it.

        As stated elsewhere Romney is all pro-gun and pro-second amendment until it becomes more politicaly expedient to oppose them.

    • http://www.doylet.org/BdT webmaster

      The crowds are with Ron Paul, even if the mainstream media ignores him and the establishment allows fraud against him. We the People want the Constitution and our freedoms back, and I seriously doubt our troops will fail to respect their oath.

    • TML

      “If you are anti-Romney, then that makes you pro-Obama”

      cum hoc ergo propter hoc

      Being ‘anti-Romney’ does not make one ‘pro-Obama’

  • John R. Howell

    In the next presidential election, we may be faced with making a choice between Obama
    who is half white and all communist, or Romney who is all white and half communist. As for me, I will vote for Ron Paul, and pray that he and God will save this once-wonderful
    country. Fed up in Florida.

    • 2WarAbnVet

      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.

      • kellys

        A vote for Romney is the same thing as voting for Obama, please show me the difference, they both want you to suffer under socialism while catering to their capitalist puppets.

      • HH

        If everyone who made that statement would just go ahead and vote for Ron Paul, Ron would win!

  • Alex

    In his second paragraph, Mr Rolley lists several goals of the NRA, none of which are infringed upon by the firearms positions taken by Mr Romney. The stated goals of the NRA are not threatened by an assault weapons ban, not are they threatened by mandatory gun registration, waiting periods, or background checks.

    Of course, the stated goals of the NRA—like the ideals printed on their mass-mailings— do not reflect the actual NRA agenda, which is to couple mass-hysteria and fear with an outdated and pathetic ‘patriotic’ nostaligia in order to shoot down even the most sensible of gun laws.

    Wayne Lapierre and his cretins at the NRA LOVE IT when the blood of our children courses down our gutters—to them, the blood smells like “Freedom”.

    • Sybucket

      Alex
      Your comments about the NRA loving it when the blood of our children courses down gutters is DISGRACEFUL and unworthy of an American! If you really believe that then you have serious social issues and a complete lack of understanding what you read. The NRA is interested only in protecting the 2nd Amendment and Freedom and to suggest that they applaude Blood in the Gutters is outragious and you know it….or should know it. If you don’t, then I sure wouldn’t want to live anywhere near someone like you. If you don’t know that statements like this are beyond the pale, then your insane!

      • jimmy the greek

        I am a NRA member and what i see is they are becoming a lap dog of law enforcement , and law enforcement well do what ever they are told to do to americans by there masters in government . NRA needs to grow a spine

    • eddie47d

      Actually Sybucket there are several who advocate killing to preserve THEIR freedom and the article last week on vigilanties proved that. There was quite a bit of encouragement in shooting anything along the border regardless of gender or age and some said it would be welcomed. Gun dealers milk each and every tragedy that happens in this country and sales go through the roof. The NRA supports those dealers and does nothing to stop the insanities from any of these shootings.

      • Mark in LA

        And eddie did you believe everything you read in that article. Why haven’t these “vigilantees” been caught, especially when they could be trotted out by Obama as a need for another illegal alien amnesty? It’s probably because these victims were drug mules who got robbed and this is the story they gave the police when they were being treated for their wounds.

      • Opal the Gem

        Trust eddie to blaim the gun dealers. He always finds an excuse to badmouth gun dealers. I wouldn’t doubt he is looking for a way to blame gun dealers for the Secret Service fiasco in Columbia.

    • sidewinderaz

      Alex you sound like the typical anti-gun liberal. If you get the mass mailings you speak of then you either are or were an NRA member.

      “Of course, the stated goals of the NRA—like the ideals printed on their mass-mailings— do not reflect the actual NRA agenda, which is to couple mass-hysteria and fear with an outdated and pathetic ‘patriotic’ nostaligia in order to shoot down even the most sensible of gun laws.”

      Is this “pathetic” mass hysteria and fear with the outdated patriotic nostalgia any different than what we hear from Obama and the Congress when they want to wage illegal wars? Is the “boogey man” syndrome we get from them any different except they use that as a justificaiton for taking more of our freedoms and God given rights away?

      Your anger with the NRA is obvious but completely misdirected. For whatever reason you have issue with them they certainly don’t want our children’s blood flowing in the streets. For that sir you are an idiot.

    • Andy

      Alex, are you realy an idiot or is it just a well polished act ?

  • tim

    When are people gonna learn?? I would love ron paul for our next president. Given youre principles and everything, a vote for ron paul now is like a vote for obama! We need to get obama out of control. His 2nd term is what he needs to complete his tyranny!!!!

    • kellys

      Paul is the only choice, I see no difference between Obama and Romney. Some people are just ignorant and fearful and will do what the party tells them to.

  • http://liberty Tony

    To Everyone:
    This article is like lightening written in the sky on a stormy night. The sad thing though, it’s so true. Thanks!!

  • MAP

    Can anyone really question that it was our fascist rulers that gave us Romney? By what real difference is he compared with the extreme leftist Obama? George Soros said there is no difference. Our fascist rulers control both parties and it is futile to look for change so long as their rule exists.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      MAP, George Soros is the puppet master and he will tell the American people anything for you to beleive what comes out of his mouth. You can trust his words no better than Obama himself.

  • rkz777

    I knew romnius maximus wasn’t the choice when I first heard he was running for president, but it seems like everyone follows the money and the slick talk. I really don’t care for any of those running ( Or who were running ), but Newt appeared to be our only hope to get through the comrade obama situation. GOD HELP US ( AND HE HAS ALWAYS ) TO STAY STRONG FOR OUR CHILDREN, AND SMITE these pestilent thugs FROM OUR MIST.

  • Edmund Jones

    Dr Ron Paul is a decent man and a good patriotic American how ever If he is not the nominee of the Republican party every vote for him will help to further the possibility that Obama will be reelected and that will be absolutely devastating to this Nation ! Any third party votes will be basicly a vote to ensure Obama’s reelection and he will govern unchected for his remaing term of office ! America cannot afford one additional day of the Obama administration !!!

    • kellys

      We cant afford Romney either, please try again. If Obama should be re elected it will prove to everyone left and right that Dr Paul was the only feasible choice to begin.

  • rkz777

    If you are a American, believe in the Constitution of The United States, love your Freedom, and a future for your children, then Ron Paul isn’t the answer, just like so many of the others. Wake up and smell the stinch of socialism. If you don’t, then by April 2013 you will know what is meant by what I say here.

  • Norm

    In 1994 running against Ted Kennedy for Massachusetts’ Senate seat, Mitt Romney said, “I don’t line up with the NRA” on gun control. By 2008 he had completely reversed himself stating that if he became President, he would support the 2nd Amendment and vigorously defend the rights of Americans to defend their homes. This was also at odds with the fact that early in his political career he was supportive of many gun control laws, particularly the Brady Act.
    Romney said that he signed the assault weapons ban as Massachusetts’ governor exclaiming that it was a “weapon of such lethality” and poses grave risk to law enforcement. This didn’t get him any accolades from the NRA.
    The man is an enigma unto himself, making it repeatedly clear that he is swayed by the issue at hand and will switch in whatever direction necessary that will benefit his candidacy.
    Mitt Romney shares many of President Obama’s views on guns as well as issues of health care and energy policy.

    • absolutely amazed

      Please tell me for what are you all planning to use your assault weapons and AK 47s – those communist/fascist/socialist/pinko/progressives/educated/hoodies, or who? You ought to give the deer and elk and bighorn sheep half a chance, but no such compassion for fellow humans, I guess. Hit a bighorn with an AK 47 and it would be unfit for human consumption, so I guess you won’t use them there. But who cares about a fellow human who happens to offend you by how he/she looks, or is in the line of fire in a hair salon when you get angry at your girlfirend.

      • Michael H.

        Prit near every assault weapon I’ve ever handled came with a selector switch. semi-auto or full auto. You have obviously never been around weapons, which might explain your fear of them. Guns are tools, and like any tool they can and will be misused.

      • Robert Smith

        From absolutely: ” Hit a bighorn with an AK 47 and it would be unfit for human consumption,”

        Absolutely false. A semi-auto AK-47 is an excellent hunting instrument.

        Rob

  • absolutely amazed

    One thing is for sure – the shooters are not firing blanks. A lot more innocents taken down the past several weeks, cops and all.

  • rkz777

    The communist always cloak their candidates on both sides of the fence, so which ever way the vote goes, they will have a more than better chance. That is how they have worked their way into our government over the years since the 1920′S, MAINLY WITHIN the leftist – democratic party. They have engrained their movement in every facit of our Americanism, and now are reaping their reward because of The American naivete. There are very few who know what a True American looks like anymore, it turns my stomach everytime I hear all these puppet controlled voices that speak in the wind. My choice is like the one who was named George, the same George that took that boat ride across that frozen river in the middle of that cold and dark night, with a few good friends, and when they landed on the other side of the river they kicked ass and saved our country, does anyone out there know who I’m speaking about. The house needs cleaning, wall to wall, and a complete overhaul so that our Constitution can be brought back again as it has always been. This a Republic “For which it stands, one nation under GOD”, and don’t tell me I’ll have to accept the socialist program, for WHERE I STAND, I WILL BEND MY KNEE ONLY TO CHRIST, AND WILL NEVER ACCEPT ANYTHING BUT THE TRUE COPY OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, SO HELP ME GOD! SO IF YOU WANT TO STAND WITH AN AMERICAN, THEN JOIN ME!

  • wayno

    Romney doesnt have a very pro gun background, but, you have to know he is leaps and bounds over Obama. Obama is a total negative for the second amendment.

    • kellys

      You have deceived yourself, there is no real difference between the two.

    • Dennis48e

      Romney is a strong 2nd amendment supporter and always will be ……………………………………………….
      at least until he decides it is more politicaly expediant to support gun control.

      • Robert Smith

        Romney: The etch-a-sketch candidate.

        Rob

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    God helps those that help themselves, God is not going to Vote he has given us minds to think with Unfortunately most voters don’t look at what a candidate has done in the past they just hope that they will say what they want to HEAR. Romney speaks with many tongues and is the Flim Flam Man who has never made a statewment that he could not Flip Flop on aqnd he is anti 2nd Amendment. He was also asked if he would revoke the last two bills taking away our 1st and 5th Amendment Rights and HE SAID NO. GINGRICH ALSO WANTS HEAVY RESTRICTION ON OUR 2ND aMENDMENT rIGHTS AND i WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A MAN WHO DOSEN’T HOLD HIS VOWS TO GOD AND HIS WIVES as a person to trust. He also like Romney is Big Government and Big Spending we would be trading one Obamination for another Obamination with a different name. LOOK AT HOW THEY VOTED OR WOULD HAVE PEOPLE, RON PAUL IS THE ONLY AMERICAN THAT HAS NOT WAVERED IN HIS BELIEF IN OUR CONSTITUTION AND OUR 2ND AMENDMENT AND HAS HAD FROM THE START A COMPLETE PLAN TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET REDUCE GOVERNMENT AND THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT WILL AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND SHUT THAT CRIMINAL INSTITUTION DOWN.

  • dave

    Hey, i think everybody should understand one point, if we had term limits, then we can and would have more control over our rights, all of them. if we don’t like what they are doing, fire them after one term, if we like them and what they are doing, vote them in for their final term. and then after that get somebody else that we feel is straight with us about our constitution, all of it.

    • kellys

      Way too many idiot rank and filers left and right vote for the party candidate and not the person, Americans by nature are too lazy and ignorant to think.

  • rkz777

    IF YOU BELIEVE THAT romnius maximus IS THE ANSWER, THEN YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN. ANYONE WHO TAKES MY WEAPONS AND MY RIGHT TO PROTECT MY FAMILY, WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE OR WILL TAKE ALL OF MY OTHER RIGHTS, THEN THEY ARE MY ENEMY AND THE ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. NOW WHAT THAT MEANS IS, IF YOU SUPPORT THESE thugs, THEN YOU STAND WITH THEM!
    YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN ONE THING AND THEN JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOAL BY SWITCHING YOUR BELIEFS ( Gun control or not? ) GO THE OTHER WAY! NO THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS, THAT JUST MEANS YOU’LL WEAR WHATEVER UNIFORM IS NECCESARY TO STAY ALIVE IN THE BATTLE. YOU EITHER STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU BELIEVE IN NOTHING, THERE’S NO GRAY AREA, NOT WHEN IT COMES TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION OR MY CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN, GOT IT!

  • uvuvuv

    if it wasn’t for the usa’s gun owners we would have that sought after and esteemed one world government right now. if anyone rails against lax gun laws their agenda is not to protect the innocent victims of gunfire, like they almost care, but to work toward a one world utopia with a one world bank and a one world average religion. the present usa would be broken up into various administrative districts, ruled by prominent liberals, or so they think. by the way this one world realm would be very eugenics oriented. africa will be a wild life preserve once the work is done.

    • http://liberty Tony

      Excellent points well taken. This is something people better take into account. As stated before, when freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free. That’s same point when it comes to firearms. Thanks!!

  • rkz777

    “HE LEAPS AND BOUNDS OVER HOBAMA”! THAT’S LIKE SAYING YOU’LL BUY THE NEW CAR OFF THE LOT, BUT IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THE ENGINE HASN’T BEEN INSTALLED! GET REAL, YOU MIGHT AS WELL KEEP THE ILLEGAL ALIEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, SAME OLD $&&& !

  • rkz777

    Alex: I have the answer to your problem, a very simple one. First, you know nothing about the NRA, for if you did you wouldn’t make such a foolish statement as you have. But if you truly believe in the sickness that the socialist movement has planted in many of the young American minds over the years, then you must depart the United States of America for that great utopia of the socialist – communist world, either russia, china, or even cuba. I’ll donate the first dollar for your departure. But if you can truly change your heart and come back to being a TRUE AMERICAN ( If you actually were before ), then we may welcome you back only this once, but only by vote. That’s the best I can do for you. ………….A TRUE AMERICAN.

  • Mirage

    I’m a NRA member, and when it comes to Romney, there is one guarrantee you can count on with him:
    he’s THE BIGGEST LIAR IN POLITICS BAR NONE!
    In the political arena where lying is part of their DNA, Romney is the CHAMP of the DUMB LIARS CLUB … unbelievable he doesn’t even have the smarts to be a good liar. At least Clinton had that.
    If Romney is the best the right can do, I’m doubling down for Obama and holding my breath.

    • Robert Smith

      “I’m a NRA member,…”

      I was for a couple of decades. I didn’t renew a couple of years before GWB Sr. quit. I worked with the NRA and saw the change to the extreme right from the organization it was.

      It was very sad to see so many good people replaced because they weren’t “conservative” enough.

      Rob

      • Mirage

        I agree …. I’m a reluctant member. $10 a year and I skip the magazine subscription … they get to keep that crap because as an independent, I can think for myself … versus them telling me who to vote for.

  • uvuvuv

    thanks tony, i always appreciate the accolades of people who share my eye Q of 200. yes thank you i’m a jenius. now what about that pyscho killer in norway, with their gun control laws how did he even have a gun? and this was some kind of a camp, wasn’t it? not even a few 22s for target practice? and so he shot everyone at his leisure. with a gun he was not SUPPOSED to have! another point, speaking of guns, can they repro trayvon’s register receipt? if there was some time between the transaction and the shooting maybe he was scoping out the place. yes doubtful but they have to consider every angle. also if he was wearing a hooded sweatshirt how did zimmerman know he was black and how did trayvon knew he was being followed? you have no peripheral vision. okay i’m off subject.

    • Robert Smith

      Under “stand your ground” when Zimmerman approached the kid with a gun the kid would have been able to shoot Zimmerman and say HE was afraid.

      It’s pretty much proven that it was the kid that was screaming for his life.

      Rob

      • Wildey

        Why do you keep calling him a kid? He was over six foot tall with a criminal record. His front teeth were replaced where they were knocked out. Zimmerman was a member of Neighborhood watch and perfectly entitled to carry a gun, and for what I understand he should of. Don’t react to what the “news” pumps into your head. Think like Reagan “Trust, but verifiy”

      • Robert Smith

        ” “Trust, but verifiy”

        Yup, I did see that it was verified that Zimmerman is a liar based on his claim that it was he who was shouting for his life when in fact it’s been proven to a 99% certainty that the screams on the 911 call weren’t him.

        Should he have had a permit to carry? With his police record and other incidences of temper and bad judgement whould would YOU have done when he asked for one?

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        BTW, I”m old enough to call anyone under 40 a kid.

        Rob

    • RichE

      Yep, regardless of the controls it looks like any nut case, left or right, can get a gun. The only solution is to take away all the guns.

      • Wildey

        You’ve got a point but what do you do when the nut cases are running the country? They’re liars, perverts, thieves, godless socialist, you name it. They want control of my Life, Liberties and properties, and you want me to surrender my means of defense? Your probably one of those sucklings living on the dole but yoy know what? With your attitude you’ll be on the spit before me. The only thing new is the history you haven’t read yet. Read it. You’ll soon discover where people like you are headed.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To RichE:
        You make the statement evertbody’s guns should be taken away. Well sir, there’s a statement to make about that. Those in favor of gun control raise your right hand. The right hand becomes a stiff arm Nazi salute. That’s the same view Hitler took when consolidating power in Germany during the 1930′s. Guess where that led !?! Truly re-evaluate what you say in the future. Thanks!!

        • RichE

          Typical conservative nut job answer. You let your anger and pride cloud your cognition and that would be an assumption on my part that you can think. Regardless, the future of gun ownership is in your hands. You are absolutely right, your fears of Hitler et al will come true. You need to get your collective heads out of each other’s ass. You are totally wasting your time arguing for when you should be making gun ownership safer. You should be disarming the opposition arguments. Each Martin, each Gabby Giffords, Columbine. Etc. strengthens opposition to guns. Keep it up gun nuts, don’t do anything to fix the problem, keep crying to each other and your guns will be taken away from you. Prove that you are adult enough to own a gun. I am only one vote, but each killing moves me closer to total gun control.

      • CZ52

        RichE doesn’t mean take away all the guns he means take away all the guns of the law abiding citizens while letting the military, police, and criminals keep theirs.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To CZ52:
        Right on sir!! As stated before and not to be boring plus repetitive, yet, when freedom is outlawed only outlaws are free. That’s the same with guns. Fare thee well for now!!

      • HH

        RichE, that’s the most ignorant statement that has ever been spoken when it comes to what method of gun control should be enforced! NONE in my opinion but if so, just who’s guns would you take? I’m telling you that the only guns you would get would be from law abiding citizens! Criminals are not going to willingly give up their guns! Why do you think Chicago has one of the highest crime rates of any city in the US? Law abiding citizens in Chicago CAN NOT legally own a hand gun so the only ones, with the exception of law enforcement officers, that have hand guns in Chicago are, (listen to me) THE CRIMINALS!!!

        I know you have heard this before but, (listen to me again) GUNS don’t kill people, PEOPLE kill people. If, by some chance, we were to destroy EVERY firearm in the world guess what? There would still be people killing people! It’s been that way from the beginning of time! Cain killed Able……… probably with a ROCK or a STICK! Are you going to ban rocks and sticks too?

        If you don’t like guns fine, that’s your prerogative, but don’t hinder me from owning OR carrying the gun I desire. It’s my right! I’m not going to go out an shoot you or anyone else but I if a criminal decided to do harm to my family or me and I DON’T have a gun, who do you think would win that fight? If I DO have a gun at least the odds would be even.

        To all you folks out there that want to take our guns away, when are you going to wake up? Banning guns gives criminals free reign!

        • RichE

          HH,
          Was Zimmerman a law abiding citizens? Good, taking his gun would result in one less death. Guarantee there will only be gun users and no gun abusers. Get rid of the gun abusers HH or lose your gun.

          “GUNS don’t kill people” ok let’s test that theory. Put two armed people in one room and two unarmed people in another room.

          “There would still be people killing people!” That’s the basis of your argument for having a gun? Perhaps we should be addressing the killing and not facilitating it with assault rifles.

          “Banning guns gives criminals free reign!” So the only thing preventing free reign is you packing? Yeah, right. Ask yourself, do you really want to live in a society where you have to pack?

          Why is it easy for criminals to acquire guns? Please address that also.

      • HH

        Mr RichE, your first paragraph makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! Get rid of gun “abusers”? Have you shifted your stance now? Before you wanted to get rid of all guns!

        Whither you like it or not guns are a fact of life, there are literally billions of guns in the world and there is no way we could ever rid the world of guns. Don’t you understand that If it weren’t for guns you and I wouldn’t have the freedoms we enjoy in this country. Don’t you know what keeps other countries from invading us? We have bigger guns!

        I say guns don’t kill people, people kill people. You say that is a “theory”, and to test this “theory” you intend to put two armed people in one room and two unarmed people in another room? I only see one person out of the four dying in your “test”, why? Lots of variables here so I am assuming that the two people confined to one room would be enemies because if they weren’t enemies then there would be no problem in either room, guns or not. But being enemies (not criminals) the two armed people would probably learn to get along with each other since they each had a way to kill the other. In the room without guns the biggest or strongest person would beat the life out of the smaller person because the smaller person had no way to defend him/herself. Bad scenario you came up with there Mr. RichE, doesn’t hold water!

        I said, “There would still be people killing people!”

        You said, “That’s the basis of your argument for having a gun?”

        NO! Where did you get that idea? My basis for having a gun is that there are some very bad people out in the world that have guns. If you take my gun, because the thugs aren’t going to give up their gun, then I would be like the smaller person in the room that had no way of defending himself from a larger foe! Why can’t you understand that? You must think that just because I own a gun that means that all I want to do is go out an shoot someone? I don’t own a gun so I can go out and shoot someone, I’ve had guns for 40 years and I ain’t killed anyone yet! The very last thing I would ever want to do would be to take another persons life!

        “Banning guns gives criminals free reign!” So the only thing preventing free reign is you packing? Yeah, right. Ask yourself, do you really want to live in a society where you have to pack?

        Well you finally got one thing right, not just me carrying but thousands of other people who enjoy our freedoms that carry their guns help to keep criminals in check. The little town of Kennesaw, GA. is a town that has an ordinance that requires ALL home owners to own a firearm, guess what! Home invasion crimes are virtually nil there because the criminals know they may get shot if they break into a house there! So yes, me packing is preventing a “free reign” of criminal activity in a way. A very small percentage of our population are policemen, a very large percentage of our population are law abiding gun owners…….. THAT helps keep criminals from having “free reign”! You take our guns away and EVERY home in America would be an open door for the criminal.

        Why is it easy for criminals to acquire guns? Because their criminals, they don’t abide by our laws, taking my guns away will not prevent criminals from obtaining guns!

        Let’s think about the Virginia Tech shooting, about the McDonald’s shooting and others……………. if there had been just ONE responsible gun carrier in any of these places at that horrible instance in time, maybe, just maybe they could have taken the shooter out and not as many innocent lives would have been lost!

        We DO NOT carry guns to kill, we carry guns to protect! BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

        • RichE

          My stance has always been, “fix the problem or lose your gun”.
          I do not want to live in a society where I have to pack. I do not want to visit a world where policepersons carry assault weapons.

      • HH

        “fix the problem or lose your gun”. What problem? GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!! The problem you speak of must be the human brain, I don’t think you can you fix that! Government school brainwashing has already taken it’s toll, which is probably the root of the problem anyway!

        I don’t want to live in a society where I HAVE to pack either, but I DO want to live in one where I can pack, if I want to, WITHOUT getting the government’s permission! No, you don’t have to pack but let me pack so maybe I can save your sorry butt from a lunatic on a killing spree dead set on killing dozens of innocent lives!

        You said, “I do not want to visit a world where policepersons carry assault weapons.” You need to wake up RichE, maybe they don’t “carry” their assault weapon but I assure you EVERY policeman/woman has an assault weapon in their trunk!!!

  • T. Jefferson

    He is frpom the liberal state of Massachusetts, What do you think. . .

  • Wildey

    The only presidential contender that’s strictly 2nd Amendment is Ron Paul. Why wasn’t he asked to speak? Could it be that the NRA is an arm of the republican party? I’m a gun manufacturer and I ran for the congress under Consitution Party banner. The NRA endorsed my anti-gun pro socialist republican opponent. If the time comes where we are suppose to turn our guns and the NRA endorses it, will you? The NRA spoke volumes about who they are and to me they’re another cobra under my bed.

  • UWorlds1

    @Wildey Martin at 17 was a kid and he DID NOT have a criminal record. And Zimmerman did NOT have a right to follow him. It’s one thing to believe in 2nd Amendment rights it’s another to tell lies on a died child.

    • Big Mo

      Big Mo says. This is much BIGGER than Zimmerman. What about all the people who are shot and killed because they COULD NOT defend themselves. You folks are TOO QUICK TO RUSH TO JUDGEMENT. I hope a similar situation doesn’t backfire on you. This is a matter for the courts and a jury.

  • ranger hall

    All politicians are Liars,Say anything that will help get them elected. All Politicians belong to the same club.
    Take away all the security from these People, And we will soon see who is the most honest.
    But the taxpayers just keep on paying for protection for these usless people. These people have no right for taxpayer security,If they feel like they need it They can pay for it themselves. Just like you are me.
    The NRA should stand for the rights of the People, But like most Organizations The Money Talks.
    For once i would like to see One Man or Organization Stand up with no Compromises when it comes down to the rights of the People.
    IN all my years carrying weapons very few honest/sane citizens have used them to take other human lives, NOT counting Military.
    Of all the People killed with Full auto weapons, SINCE they became illegal, HAVE not been commited by citizens, If i am not mistaken ONLY Policemen have commited murder with full auto weapons.
    The only protection citizens have IS TO BE ARMED, This is the only reason America has remained FREE, Take this away from our citizens and we will be defeated from Without or from Within.
    Do we survive as Men or do we servive as Sheep. Stand your Ground. But you will always have people that want Others to do the dirty work for them.
    Wake up People you have been asleep for so Long.

  • jopa

    It is probably a big secret with Romney what he will do about guns if elected.He has many secrets such as how to fix the economy, welfare reform and the Afghan war.Usually when someone has so many secrets it usually means they are clueless and will wing it as they go along.Romney has passed anti-gun legislation so we know where his mind is and Obama has been in office over three years and nobody had to give up their guns due to any of his legislation , in fact gun laws have become more lenient.Guns with the current administration are really not the topic of the day and those issues are not even on the back burner.If you want to keep your gun rights vote Obama.

    • Robert Smith

      From jopa: “Obama has been in office over three years and nobody had to give up their guns due to any of his legislation , in fact gun laws have become more lenient.Guns with the current administration are really not the topic of the day and those issues are not even on the back burner.If you want to keep your gun rights vote Obama.”

      Bingo!

      I voted for him a few years ago and I still have my guns.

      Rob

      • Dennis48e

        “Obama stated after he was elected president that the only reason he would not seek new gun control laws was the fact he did not have the votes to assure their passage.”

        Nuff said.

      • HH

        Elect him again an see what happens to your gun rights!

  • chuckb

    jopa, barry is more interested at the moment removing our constitutional rights, you are right on the lenient gun laws, barry is even selling guns to the drug cartel in mexico, now that’s what i call lenient.

  • Steve

    Good point Wildey,
    There is much danger in joining any group with a single agenda. They always talk a good story and appeal to your basic senses. However, over the years if they are truly a threat to organized government, they are easily over taken and sub diverted by those with the power. Then all you have this group of people who think they are defending rights and on the right track whose leaders can be bought out or corrupted. Once that happens you loose the whole game simply because you do not have an organization that is viable with blind followers who have allowed the leaders to do there talking. Plus the membership list is there to find you. In that regard I prefer to be completely independent.

    Now, believe me I like Ron Paul and what he stands for. And yes in many cases I feel a lot like many of you and that is we are at a point wondering if we only have the choice which is the worse of two of the same evils.
    I am not as sure as some are that Romney is the same as Obama. I personally know some of the Romney’s and consider them conservative and some of the best people on the earth that I have ever known.

    I like many do feel sold out by the Republican Party leadership. I have hoped that maybe if the winds blow right we could actually elect a Ron Paul in this system and he could fix it. Yet at the same time I have in the past wasted votes on independent candidates that could not win, and thus possibly brought forth some of what we are dealing with here and now.

    Bottom line is who ever is President signs laws that are enacted by the Congress and Senate. That along with the current president is what we desperately need to change. A President will have little he can do on his own. History has proven if he is perceived as too radical either to the left or right as Paul might be, he gets shot.

    This probably sounds defeatist to some, but at least we know that Romney understands and is pro business and has some real world experience. That is what makes this world go round. We know for sure Obama does not have a clue, is anti Constitution, and has surrounded himself with crooks and idiots. Both these statements have been proven true beyond question.

    That brings another question to all the faith full Paul people I see here. What are you going to do when Ron tells you to support Romney at the convention?

  • shane manthe

    why does every politition join the NRA before election time???

  • uvuvuv

    if it was proven 99% that is was trayvon screaming for help, how many screams can you get out while the bullet is traveling the 20 feet or so? if someone is screaming for help, his personal situation would be more of a long drawn out process, that is, being beaten. my authority for this goes back to watching cannon and hawaii 5-O, and columbo and the streets of san francisco, etc, and every murder victim i saw didn’t really have the time to scream out for help repeatedly. i know this is too late for anyone to read, robert smith is passed out after downing his 2nd quart of gilbey’s.

    • Dennis48e

      The reports I saw quoted said it was about 50-50 on it being Zimmermans voice.

  • chuckb

    if romney thinks his joining the nra will boost his popularity, what’s wrong with that. this guy will do anything, say anything, buy anything to get his butt in the oval office. i would vote for ron paul if didn’t mean throwing my vote away. what makes me really mad the republican party is forcing me to vote for someone i definitely don’t like and they must have the same sentiments as romney or they wouldn’t back him.

    they believe people are so sick of barry soetoro they will vote for a hound dog before re-electing him. something is mighty wrong when the citizens elect a nominee by the sound bites of a tv commercial and know nothing of the person they vote for, isn’t that called ignorance..

    • http://none Claire

      chuckb—I agree.

  • boyscout

    Guns don’t kill people. Bullets do that job unless we’re talking butt stroke or bludgeon. Anyone purchased ammo lately? Pretty salty market, Ay. Think that’s just supply and demand? Then , of course there’s the old smoke pole; charcoals and stale urine will get you to the range -but- in big trouble in a fire fight.
    BTW, am pretty damn sure the 2nd Amendment wasn’t really concerned with “hunter’s” rights. Keep it dry , gentlemen.

  • http://none dan

    robert smith do us all a favor pull your lips over your head and swallow

  • jopa

    dan;I am a curious one.What happens when you do that??

  • Harvey Steele

    If the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights had not been written and passed, the entire constitution would have gone down and the US would have had to revert to the Confederacy.

  • http://www.survivingurbancrisis.com/ Silas Longshot

    Sad we have to have McCain 2.0 for this crucial election. The flip flop king may get elected, but only because he’s running against 0bama.

  • Art

    When I hear of reasonable gun restrictions or laws I always think: When will they stop adding more and more restrictions to solve a non existing problem.

  • http://none Claire

    As a responsible gun owner, I have doubts about Romney. Like all politicians he is kissy-face huggy-bear with whatever and whomever–until he is elected. It is not what it seems with this guy. His mannerisms, and the things he says does not “click” with me. I certainly will not vote for him.

  • ranger hall

    And for some of you people out there OUR Police carry Full Auto Machine Guns. And most are not even that good with them, I remember when they wanted to go to 10-15 round Auto Pistols, Most carried revolvers in those days.As most depts went to the Autos the Average policemans score dropped at lest 10 points,from the revolver. So they gave up quality for quanity.
    In most police shooting the range is 10-20 feet. even with the pistol in the hand the average Policemans reaction time is 2 second or more to a threat. When i was in the business,i could go from the holster to fire in less than a second, And i could hit center mass. Most Policemen do not practice more than twice a year, And now we give them Full Auto Machine Guns.
    When i was Young we carried 2 pistols, a rifle, an a thompson in the trunk.we were able to handle any problem that came up, And we covered a hell of a lot of sq. miles with out back up, Sorry we had all the back up we needed We had the People we could count on.
    American honest citizens need no regulations placed on the ownership of weapons,or the right to carry. When only Policemen and Criminals carry weapons we then loss our freedom.
    And yes we will even help defend you people that will not defend yourself.

    • HH

      Amen Ranger Hall, THAT’s what I’m talkin’ bout!!!

  • billy ryals

    .The NRA is full of it! I wrote Wayne LaPierre asking if he had noticed that our President was not very gun friendly. I asked if he had also noticed that though both Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich had spoken in the past at NRA conventions in order to appear conservative and pro-gun in order to curry favor with voters, that both of them had in fact voted AGAINST our gun rights in their respective employments as Governor and Speaker. I asked him if he was aware that Senator Santorum had also voted anti-gun in his capacity as Senator. I pointed out that though our prospects were looking dim this election, we have a reason to hope because Texas Congressman Ron Paul has NEVER voted against our Second Amendment gun or any other of our rights. The response of Wayne LaPierre and America`s First Freedom magazine was to simply ignore my letter to the editor as though it did not exist, while pretending that any GOP candidate would be pro-gun. Then, they had the nerve to send me a renewal request. They can keep it. I will spend my money attempting to get Ron Paul the only pro-gun Presidential candidate elected. Gun Owners of America is a MUCH BETTER organization, because they actually stand for what they purport to stand for, GUN RIGHTS, rather than some globalist neo-con agenda. GOA isn`t in bed with the insurance industry either.

    • James

      Billy, Wayne LaPierre has never cited or quoted state constitutions, concerning the right to bear arms. The Second Amendment says the right to bear arms “shall not be infringed,” and Webster defines “infringe” as: “Defeat, frustrate, violate, transgress.” Thus, every federal law that restricts or complicates the ownership of “arms” is clearly in violation of the Second Amendment. Yet, since the Civil War the National Rifle Association has sat in on and agreed to all federal laws that have so infringed. Why has no federal gun law ever been held violative of the Second Amendment?

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  • wink windsor

    I like Ron Paul. But if he were to run as a 3rd party candidate it would throw the election to Obama. Is that what you want? Do you want Obama picking the next Supreme Court Judge? That would be a disaster.
    Don’t forget Clinton won because of Ross Perot.

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