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Is Romney A Birther?

August 29, 2012 by  

On the campaign stump last week, Mitt Romney took a thinly veiled swipe at President Barack Obama’s birth certificate controversy when he said to a crowd in Michigan: “No one’s ever asked to see my birth certificate. They know that this is the place where both of us were born and raised.”

The crowd cheered.

 

 

Romney quickly backtracked when confronted by the media, claiming, “there’s no question about where [Obama] was born. He was born in the U.S.”

Actually, there’s a big question about where Obama was born. And there are still many people asking it. A CNN poll in 2010 showed that 58 percent of respondents had doubts about Obama’s birth story.

If Romney wants to ignite the grass roots, he’ll quit running from the birther controversy and bring it up at every opportunity — or at least until Obama provides an original copy of his birth certificate and proves he is a natural-born citizen. And while he’s at it, perhaps he could provide proof he attended Columbia. It’s quite curious not one of his classmates remembers him there.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.ward.73932 Steve Ward

    Barrack…..Me thinks you doth protest to much.

    • http://www.facebook.com/joseph.lundy.3 Joseph Lundy

      How come no one ask Senator McCain for his birth certificate when he was running for President? He was born in Panama!

      • Robert Smith

        Although McCain should get credit for his military service and his being a prisoner I still can’t figure out how sitting in a prison cell qualified him in any way to be President.

        Oh, going for sympathy I guess.

        Rob

      • Big Woody

        Pay attention John. Look it up. In April 2008 the Senate had hearings and approved a resolution declaring John McCain eligible to serve as President of the United States. He was born in Panama on a US base as the son of an Navy officer that was ordered to be there by the US government.

      • Reggie

        McCain was a war hero.what this country was fonded on. Obama was ,is and stil nothing,and his birth is very much in doubt from proven establishments.he lied to the American people, and still continues to lie. Snopes had it as true he was born inKenya, an they are very left.People in this country need to wake up and wake up fast. What about the fast and furious.American and mexixican lives were lost there and what does Obama do but give holder Presidential executive priviledge , so he did not have to release the papers.There chicago style tactics will do them in!

        • Txbadonetoo

          When Mr. Presidential ‘Transparency’ releases his school records, social security card records and armed forces registration records I’ll stop with the birther jokes.. until then.. I don’t trust the man for spending Millions of $ to hide his records and and the same time call Romney out for taxes..

      • DaveH

        What should matter to people is that Both McCain and Obama are in bed with the Bankers and the Corporatists who control our Government:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Wall%20Street,%20Banks,%20and%20American%20Foreign%20Policy.pdf

      • eddie47d

        Is Romney a Birther? Of Coarse he is and he will be courting Trumps voting block. Wink Wink!

      • Dale left coast

        Joseph . . . they DID and HE DID . . . but they IGNORED the O . . . ever wonder why?

      • al

        Actually they did.
        McCain was vetted by Congress and it was decided that since his father was in Panama on active diuty and McCain was born on U.S. soil in Panama and both of his parents were U.S. Citizens, then he passed the qualifications to be President.

        You might ask who brought up the subject of qualifications for McCain? Yep, it was the Democratic Party and you can bet is was instigated by Obama, because this is his method of winning elections.

        But did McCain demand that Obama prove his qualifications? No chance is hell he would do that because that might be classed as Racist instead of Constitutional. This is also why McCain did not attack Obama in the campaign, nor would he allow Palin to attack Obama for fear of the race card.

        Welcome to the world of Racist BS, Political Correctness and Political Cowards.

        Romney this week made a quip that “No one had asked to see his Birth Certificate” and the MSM was on his a-s immediately. Romney made the mistake of saying that ‘Obama was born in the United States’. A stupid remark on his part, what he should have said was ‘This is correct, no one has asked to see my birth certificate’. And left it at that….. Wake up Mitt, think on your feet, these bastards will try to trap you by every sentense you speak.

      • al

        There are only two qualifications to be President, read the Constitution for Christ sake.
        1. you must have reached the age of 35.
        2. you must be a ‘natural born citizen’.
        You do not have to be any other thing. You can be dumber than a stone, be blind, have a peg leg or no legs at all. So to say that a ‘citizen’ with 1 and 2 above is not qualified is just your opinion. And like a-s h-les, we all have one.

      • Stuart Shepherd

        Robert Smith- if you’re not gay I’ll EAT Obama’s birth certificate!

        • txbadonetoo

          McCain was asked for his birth certificate.. and it was addressed by congress.. he was ruled a Naturalized Citizen.. which is required by Article II Section I of the Constitution.. Obama has a law suit (from people vs. Georgia) pending in front of the US Supreme Court to rule on his eligibility. We’ll see if the US Supreme Court has the balls (or whatever female anatomy part) to take this on this year..

      • dfinch

        Both of McCain’s parents were US citizens. His dad was in the navy stationed in Panama.

    • Txbadonetoo

      Obama makes jokes about his birth certificate and sells coffee mugs to raise funds.. lighten up people. Talk about feighned outrage.

      If Obama hadn’t kept his birth certificate seeled for 4 years (as are still his school, social security and selective service registration ID..) then he wouldn’t get jokes about his birth certificate.

      Why don’t the Democrats worry about 8.3% unemployment and 1.5% GDP.

      • Scott

        You can get an official $5 button of Obama and his birth certificate stating “Made in America”. So that’s that, then. It’s official. You Repubs demanded it. You got it. What more do you Repubs need?

    • Scott

      You can get an official $5 button of Obama and his birth certificate stating “Made in America”. So that’s that, then. It’s official. You Repubs demanded it. You got it. What more do you Repubs need?

      • Lois Armstrong

        Well Scott, us ‘Repubs’ want something that you Democraps don’t seem to have a working knowledge of and that would be honesty.

      • Daveh234

        Oooh, Lois, the Republican party sure never lied!
        They are the best at it, come on. WMD, Iraq. Stupid, stupid lies.
        The Economy will grow with trickle down…oops dropped the economy down and lost millions of jobs before moving on or better yet, being booted out.
        Nothing beats a honest republican.

        • Lois Armstrong

          Never said there haven’t been lies on all sides only that the Dems seem to do it better.

      • Joe Hammond

        In all fairness lying is as American as apple pie. Both Romney and Obama have lied about the stands of each other. What I find fascinating is that Romney is expressing outrage that his character has been attacked in vicious ads from the Obama campaign. This is the same Romney who carpet bombed Perry, Gingrich, Santorum, and Mr. Pizza with blistering attacks on their fidelity, honesty, and ability. Gingrich called him a liar on TV. If members of his own party while running against him claim him to have low enough morals to be called a liar then why can’t Obama say the same.

        The truth to politicians is like sunlight to vampires….Vote for Charlie Johnson! The other two are unqualified to be leading anything!

      • Debb

        The Repubs don’t want anyone who looks like the O in the big house. Nothing less. Oh they’ll call it anything. Birth certificate? School records? Reverend Right? Selective service? Radical? Voter fraud? Liar? Muslim? Racist? Unpatriotic? I’m sure I’m forgetting something but I choose to. Life is just a little bit too short. The fact of someone who looks like President Obama with such authority is antithetically wrong to more than a few people in this US of A. The level of digging that started when he announced his candidacy for President has paid for many a career. Many people had an emotional meltdown when he won and still are. On the negative side of the meltdown – that is what birthed the Tea Party. Hey there’s that word again. Do you folks have an organizational birth certificate?
        Oh, I guess Obama’s mother being a citizen doesn’t count nor qualify? Let’s say he was born in Kenya. Did his mother denounce the US or give up her citizenship? Or was she not a ‘natural born citizen’? This may take some time (about 24 hours) to make up a story for something like that. Or did he come from an alien? Which one? What planet?
        You birthers are still having your meltdown. I would say to get over it, but many of you probably don’t even remember what your life was like before President Obama.
        Imagine how detrimental a Presidency would be with Romney. He would get away with so much because people would cease to pay attention that they are currently giving the O-man! Romney is simply put – BORING!

        • Lois Armstrong

          Never thought about his looks. His actions have been ugly enough.

      • http://Yahoo.com Bill

        Debb – my guess is, by your statements, is that we’re nothing but a bunch of racists. In your next post, don’t beat around the bush, you can come out and say it. After all, the trolls on here come out with the same crap or even worse. There are a lot of people that when they’re call racist, they’ll just shut their mouths and walk away. Not me. I will get in their face and ask them to explain why I’m a racist, only because I have a different opinion or I don’t think someone is very good at their job or I just believe someone is a dumbf–k, and only because they’re a differerent color. Get a brain you stupid, ignorant, troop train chasing, piece of crap biittch.

        • txbadonetoo

          Obama’s polcies suck.. just don’t say he plays golf, is from Chicago, has a kitchen cabinet…. Hell – these liberals even call Congressman Alan West racist and a traitor. Alan West is one of the best Americans I know.. does saying that make me racist? I’m sure Chris or Lawrence will find a way to say I said something racist in my reply..

        • txbadonetoo

          Bill – with your rude language you are an insult to any political party or any group of people I can envision. Drop the insults Bill and stick to constructive responses to make your point(s).

    • Scott

      It was the Clintons in 2008 that brought up and pushed the birth thing, where are they now?

      • Roger from Ohio

        Hi Scott,

        The Clintons dropped the issue, and they are still very much alive.

        Roger

      • Whit

        Latest Obama campaign commercial features Bill Clinton saying Obama’s plan is to “Rebuild America from the ground up!”

        Is this what we truly want? The vision our forefathers had and implemented over 200 years ago, freedom and liberty now to be set aside to be rebuilt by a socialist? I sure don’t.

        Cheers

      • txbadonetoo

        Clinton would sell his soul for a blue dress.. He’s a political version of Linda Lovelace.. Anything for fame and a few $$.. Even if he sacrifices his own values (does he have any?)

    • jim noord

      OK, please stop the “birther crap”, we know he is an avowed communist, and participated in the coup in Kenya while a “US Senator in Name only”. Also know he conspires (yes CONSPIRES) with known domestic and international terrorists. ALSO he is incompetent, could not get a valid security clearance or likely qualify for a student loan (is he even registered with selective service….I doubt it), he has several social security numbers….is that legal? This is all crap and doesn’t matter. Simply hammer (and I mean HAMMER) lack of leadership on the economy, lack, lack of patriotism, and lack of experience. Combined with the loss of jobs, companies, and security in the USA. If you simply “report the news” you will wil hands down. He HAS NO RECORD!!!!

      • http://yahoo marc lizotte

        Exactly, Obomonation is using the Birther issue as a ruse to take the attention off his real father and that THAT FATHER was an avowed Communist that coached him for the future!

      • Marty S.

        It is a bit scary to think he has the inside on most of our national security secrets etc. What happens after he loses the election? Just food for thought.

    • Don

      I hope Romney is a birther. If Romney wins, I hope that an investigation of Obama eligiblity will finally be opened and that questions will be answered. The simplist way to undo the damage of Obama is the question of eligiblity.

  • Big Woody

    Obama’s birth certificate. Like Clinton’s blue dress and Ted Kennedy’s Chappaquiddick incident are all valid reasons that their opponents directly or indirectly mention these issues. They all generate a mistrust for each of the politicians involved. Romney does not have to be a birther to use Obama’s secrecy as a reason to question Obama’s honesty. If Romney puts his birth certificate on display everywhere he gives speaches or every time he states he believes Obama was born in the US, the press will beat the birther drum, again raising doubts of Obama’s honesty. The birther issue will be a no win issue for Obama forever. It is like the old “Do you still beat your wife?” question. No matter what Obama says now, he will never be able to justify hiding his birth, college and military records. The amount of money alegedly spent to conceal and the length of time that has transpired will leave unwavering doubt in the minds of too many people.

    • Txbadonetoo

      Amen.

      • http://yahoo marc lizotte

        YEP

    • Mable 8

      What military record? The forged Selective Service Card/Registration? The liar-in-chief has never been in the military, never received an exemption from serving in the military, and is clueless about the US Armed Forces because he IS NOT A US CITIZEN….never was, never has been, never will be. What is he? A puppet of george soros and an enemy of the state.

      • Joe Hammond

        Who gives a damn where these idiots were born? I would rather have a competent president than either Obama or the magic underwear man! Neither Romney nor Obama have demonstrated any leadership skills in this election other than name calling. If Romney is such a great patriot why did he run off to Paris to convert the French into becoming magic underwear people rather than serve during the Viet-nam War? Because he was scared he get his uncoordinated ass shot off! And why have all his sons avoided serving the US? Because they are followers of their uncoordinated father. As for Obama….well, enough said….

        Lets hire someone who is qualified for a change….but then the fatcats on Wall Street might be forced to break up the 5 evill sisters of the banking world……..

  • Mountain Saint

    How come people don’t ask Mitt for his father’s naturalization papers? His father, George, was born in Mexico to third generation Mexican citizens. Mitt is just as unqualified to run for the presidency as Obama. Neither is a natural born citizen.

    • george Moberly

      If you would check the law it would not depend on where his father was born in the US. Mitt was born in the US in MI. that makes him a natural born citizen.

      • Txbadonetoo

        If Mitt’s father and mother were citizens at the time of his birth then he’s a natural born citizen. The issue is that Obama’s father was NEVER a US citizen so technically he’s not a natural born citizen – the Supreme court refuses to address this issue. Even Justice Thomas said this publically this year.

        Mitt’s parent’s were citizens – as were John McCains – even though he was born in Panama while his father was on military duty and that also makes him a natural born citizen.

      • TML

        I still hold that if born on American soil, only one parent need be a citizen of the United States to qualify as “natural born citizen” (if born outside the US, two parents must be citizens to qualify as the same), however, according to a compelling case that I saw in the video “Dreams of my real father”, it seems entirely likely (even just looking at the two) that Frank Martial Davis (who was a citizen) could very well be Obama’s real father. If this is true, it would make the case of Obama’s natural born citizenship, rather moot, even if you hold the view that two parents are required to be citizens, if born on American soil. If you haven’t seen “Dreams of my real father” yet, I recommend it.

        • Txbadonetoo

          Both parent’s have to be USA citizens – with no loyalities to other nations to be a natural citizen.. not just one parent.

      • TML

        I specifically disagree because there is no law stating that such is the case; nothing in the constitution that defines “natural born citizen”.

        Minor v. Happersett (being only an interpretation) states, “all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.”. Many will point to the word parents being plural, while I say it to be grammatical reference to the word children being plural. But this is moot, as Minor v. Happersett also states, as I did, that “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that, at common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar”

        It has been argued (quite well by Bob Livingston himself) that an objective source of that common law with the nomenclature familiar to the framers would be, ‘The Law of Nations by Emmerich de Vattel’… which states, “I say, that, in order to be of the country [natural born], it is necessary that a person be born of a father [parent - singular] who is a citizen”

        • Txbadonetoo

          Last time I checked the USA operates via law per the US Constitution and laws subject to it.. which does state that a ‘natural born citizen’ have both parents who are citizens. Sheriff Joe has his quirks but he is an honest man in my book.

      • TML

        I am unaware of such a law which states that a ‘natural born citizen’ have both parents who are citizens. Could you please cite the law to which you refer?

      • al

        Actually what makes Mitt a ‘natural born citizen’ is the fact that both of his parents were citizens of the U.S. at the time of his birth and he was born on the soil of the U.S.

      • Daveh234

        Hence, immigrants bearing children here are also qualified?

    • Mable 8

      Where did you get your false information? Your assertions have been disproven many monts ago and many times. Get a life!

    • Big Woody

      Mountain Saint: It would do you well to research your facts before you post. Mitt Romney’s grandparents were US citizens that fled to Mexico because they were poligimists. Mitt’s parents were from Utah and though they were not poligimists like his their parents, they too chose to live in Mexico as US citizens. During the Mexican revolution they escaped the war by returning to the US. Both of Mitt’s grandparents were US citizens and they chose US citizenship for their children. So, George Romney, Mitt’s father has been a US citizen since birth. Mitt was born in Michigan of parents that were US citizens.
      The voters of Michigan went through all this stuff when Nixon beat George Romney for the presidentiol nomination back in 1968.
      Google it, instead of making it up :~}

      • AZ-Ike

        BigWoody, Maybe it is you who should also check your facts.

        According to news reports during George Romney’s GOP Presidential campaign against Nixon in 1968, Mitt’s great grandfather, Miles, although born (a U.S. citizen) in Illinois, moved to Utah and was prosecuted for poligamy. It is unclear whether he lost his U.S. citizenship at that time. Miles moved with his family (one of three wives) and his son Gaskell (age 14?) to Mexico. Gaskell married in Mexico and had son, George (and others.)

        Whether Miles and Gaskell were still U.S. citizens or not, Mitt’s father George became a Mexican Citizen when born in Mexico (according to Mexican citizenship law.) Unless George (possibly) naturalized and definitely renounced his Mexican citizenship, he remained, at the very least, a dual citizen–and possibly just a Mexican citizen. When children are born, they automatically become citizens of the parents’ countries. This means that Mitt was born with (1) Mexican citizenship from his father, and therefore cannot be a ‘natural born citizen’; or (2) dual U.S./Mexican citizenship from his father, and therefore cannot be a ‘natural born citizen’; or (3) IF there was no expatriation of citizenship rights either due to Utah/U.S. poligamy laws/prosecution or from permanently leaving the U.S. to live and own property in Mexico (only available to Mexican citizens), AND if his father, George renounced his Mexican citizenship, THEN Mitt is probably a natural born citizen.

        For those who believe Minor v. Happersett was ‘Opinion’ and not ‘Law,’ it WAS the known definition of ‘natural born’ Citizenship from the time the Constitution was written and through the 19th and 20th centuries until it was questioned by career politicians 2 to 4 decades ago.

        A ‘natural born’ citizen is one who is naturally born to citizenship without the requirement of law. That is why a ‘natural born’ citizen is one who is born IN the country of parents who are BOTH citizens OF a country. There is no question of allegiance or requirement to or by another country.

        Anyone who quotes the 14th Amendment (law defining ‘citizenship’–NOT ‘natural born’ citizenship) is using the LAW to become a citizen. Therefore, not ‘naturally born’ a citizen. As Minor v. Happersett stated, “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” The court observed that some authorities “include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents”—note the statement is ‘citizen’ not ‘natural born’ citizen—and it can only be determined by LAW. As in Wong Kim Ark and other ‘citizenship’ cases.

        According to the Constitution, a citizen can become a Senator, Representative, appointed Justice, Judge, Secretary, federal civil employee, or any State elected, appointed or civil officer or employee. ONLY the President (and Vice President because of the right of sucession) MUST BE held to a higher standard of citizenship and be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN in order to avoid divided loyalties in our Commander in Chief and the Executor of U.S. laws.

        To answer the author’s question, Mitt Romney is NOT a birther. He can’t afford to be because there are significant questions regarding his own status of citizenship.

      • http://eingriff.wordpress.com eingriff

        Both Obama and Romney were natural born U.S. citizens at birth.
        Obama can readily prove his eligibility at birth, at the risk of disclosing that Barack Hussein Obama was not his father.
        Romney needs to get his ducks in a row to prove that his father George was a U.S. citizen. Otherwise, Soros-suborned chief election officials (usually the state secretary of state) might bar Romney from the presidential ballot, on the motion of Soros-financed stooge presidential candidates..
        Obama lost his American citizenship by Indonesian naturalization as a minor, with conduct as an adult consistent with voluntary relinquishment of American citizenship and wholly inconsistent with retention of U.S. citizenship – refusal to register with Selective Service in 1979, within thirty days after he attained age 18, and entry into the United States on an Indonesian passport as Barry Soetoro, with an American student visa stamped therein by the American Embassy in Jakarta.
        So we might end up with the re-election of a non-eligible enemy agent, because the RINOs have not attended to their knitting.

        • Bev

          To be a “natural born citizen” both of your parents must’ve been US citizens. The guy listed on the fake BC was from Kenya, Barack Senior was in the US on student visa. So please explain to me how Obama could be a natural born citizen.

      • Merrybee

        This is just too funny – there’s more talk about Romney and McCain’s births than Obama’s. No wonder we get the kind of people for president that we’ve had. People just want to talk about the nonsense – the real issues don’t seem important. Liberals like to get Conservatives off issue…

  • http://Personalliberty Barbara

    That’s so typical of the liberals, “do as I say, not as I do”, He still has NOT produced a REAL birth certificate. Just what is HE hiding? The progressives are so quick to accuse others of hiding something. Hey, this loser is out selling buttons about his birth origin. He’s still a liar and a manipulator. If not for the lame media, he would never get away with his deception. As long as people get their information for MSNBC, CNN, ABC and PBS, they will remain in the dark concerning the real obama. Pathetic.

    • Txbadonetoo

      If Barbara is single – I want to propose to her!

    • Joe Hammond

      And of course only Fox News is true…..even if it won’t talk about the lies and break ins in Britain….or that Ruppert Murdock has built a very expensive home in Communist China where he feels safe….Yeah, Barbie, support the Communist loving saint Ruppert of Murdoch. Honesty for all plastic heads……

      • Lois Armstrong

        So you think the big money behind Obummer is some kind of Saint Soros? He is one of the most evil creatures on this planet. He willingly sold out his own people and helped the nazi scum. He has no morals. Works feverishly to topple every country, including this one.
        Of course if you don’t love this country, or are more interested in the lavish lifestyle the Obummers are enjoying at our expense, I guess you are entitled to feel that way since, atleast for now, it is still a free country for the most part.

  • clemens harmon

    Istill am going to vote for Obama not matter what Romney or anyone else says. Romney
    will say any thing to get elected President.

    • Txbadonetoo

      Clemens, I hope you are independently wealthy, don’t own stock, don’t depend on Social Security, Medicare or…. Because they won’t be around after 4 more years of Obama

      • Joe Hammond

        TX trash, I hope you don’t have male children of drafting age as Rumney wants to prove he is not a wimp by attacking Iran and starting another Republican War for the profits of the military-industrial complex….and the Cock Brothers to whom he worships on his knees…….and we all know none of the Rumney Boys will sign and fight…they might get a bruise……

    • BLH557

      It’s a good thing the ballot won’t be an essay question or you “won’t not get vote fo you gie”.

    • Ted Crawford

      Yes ! We know, Clemens, your mind is made up. Why, in the World would you allow any amount of facts confuse you? You’fe not alone, L’Umanita created a cozy little category for those who think like you !

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest stu

      I,m gonna cancel out your vote Mr.Clemens!

    • Lois Armstrong

      Wow, that koolade was mighty strong. He fooled you once and you are ready to bend over again for more of the same Progressive lies. Progressive is the new name for Communist. They had to make it sound likeable for the uneducated to fall into their party line. Obummer hangs out with the Hollywood crowd because he is always the actor.
      Mr. Romney is a real person who has actually worked to make this country better. Obummer wants to help his muslim cousins and follow the 3rd world pattern of failure.

      • eddie47d

        Are those “lies” any better than the Reich Wing lies.Two can tango with that baloney!

        • Lois Armstrong

          If anyone comes close to the Reich it would be this president as he tries to take our rights away. Hitler took the guns first. Obummer made it clear that was only one of the things he wants to take from us. He is doing every thing in his power to dimiss our Constitution and given 4 more years he might succeed.

      • eddie47d

        More Hitlerian Conservative baloney.

        • Lois Armstrong

          There are none so blind as those who will not see, Eddie boy.When your rights are gone I bet you will be one of the loudest screams heard.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      There is ONLY ONE reason ANYONE would vote for obumass! He is BLACK!!! That’s a pretty POOR reason!!!

      • eddie47d

        Ron Paul would make a much better choice but your black remark is uncalled for. There are plenty of reasons to vote against Obama and just as many to vote against Romney.

      • Joe Hammond

        But there are plenty of reason to vote against Magic Underwear Man……….

    • Butch

      CLEMENS HARMON YOU’RE DUMBER THAN A SACK OF AHOLES.

    • Christopher Romero

      Yes, I am also going to vote for Obama, not matter all the lies they tell us about him. I like him because he is not a low life christian who believe in a god that doesn’t exist. I don’t care if he is an American born citizen or not, he is doing what he promised us ‘”CHANGE THIS COUNTRY ” and he is doing it, very soon we will be the greatest COMMUNIST COUNTRY on the face of this planet earth, so please, vote for him.

      • txbadonetoo

        You left out ‘bankrupt, disarmed, economically inept’ socialsit country.. I’m moving to a metropolitan area to go on welfare, SNAP, (help me out here.. what else can I go on) and not have to work anymore..

  • http://www.facebook.com/jpacord John Acord

    Hey, if Hussein can do it why not place an image on a coffee cup and t-shirts of the leaflet distributed by his publishers promoting is books by unequivocally stating he was born in Kenya. Hardly a mistake: Hussein was either lying to his publishers to push his books or he is lying about his birth country. If someone made them up I’d buy a couple dozen.

  • CaptMoosie

    IF Nobama had indeed been born in Kenya, then there must be a record of him and his father entering this country. Same goes from when he came here from Indonesia. Has anyone checked the INS records? Most likely O-Bozo has those records sealed as well!? I smell a big fat rat regarding all of this secrecy…..

    • Txbadonetoo

      It’s already been reported that the passport records (incoming into Hawaii) for the week of Obama’s birth are missing in Hawaii’s records. Coinky – dink?

    • kmwhitt

      Those records are conveniently missing… Watch Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s first press conference regarding the birth certificate. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w0SVOwWGjw

      • Txbadonetoo

        The Maricopa County ‘Posse’ does some good work..

  • proud to be an American

    I have a SECRET but I don’t want to tell anyone except George Soros and the Rockefellers. They helped me $$$ keep my secrets. I don’t have anything to hide but I do like to live out the dreams of my father. I go under alias’s of Barry, obozo, obummer,ozero and o’nomore.

  • Norm

    No one has ever asked Romney for a birth certificate, but many people asked to see his federal tax returns.
    Outside of his 2010 return, neither birth certificate nor additional tax returns have surfaced.
    We’re asked to “trust” him.
    I don’t really care where he was born, but I wonder about a couple that make 23 million $ in 1 year and are taxed at a mere 13.9% rate. If Romney has nothing to hide, why not show his returns. He needs all the support he can muster if he wants to become president

    • Txbadonetoo

      It’s called Capital Gains tax – Romney’s original income was already taxed at 35%. Romney now donates 15% to charity on his capital gains so his rate is less than 15%. I’d worry more about the 50% of Americans who pay ZERO Federal Income taxes and consume major Federal Govt $$ from tax payers such as myself. If you don’t have skin in the game I’m not sure why you should participate.. but that’s just me.

      • Whit

        @Txbad1too…
        Are you saying those who collect SS don’t pay taxes? Unless it’s from the welfare side of SS called SSI, anyone collecting SS because of retirement or disability have PAID into the SS fund to qualify to collect.

        In addition, should they purchase goods or gasoline or any of the other myriad of taxable items sold in stores and elsewhere, they ARE paying taxes! Income taxes are not the only taxes collected.

        Cheers

      • Norm

        He did NOT pay 35%. He paid a TOTAL of 13.9%.
        Couples on SS with total incomes of 32K+ pay federal taxes on 85% of their social security checks, plus any and all other income. Cap gains vary from 0 to 15% depending on income, and if long or short term.
        Pensions, IRA/401k distributions, and savings interest (including annuities) are taxable at normal rates. Many retired people and many working people pay income taxes at higher rates than Romney.

        • txbadonetoo

          Norm.. I thought i said clearly that Romney paid 35% on his income when he wzs working for Bain and the Olympics. 35% on ordinary income. As you point out (as did I) capital gains tax rate is now 15% (long-term gains) and that has been Romneys income source for the past 10 years.

          Romney also has some ordinary income (speakers fees etc..) and he donates about 15% of his reported income each year so yes – he pays an effective rate of roughly 13% today. But he paid 35$ on the income (when working at Bain) which he then invested and now pays the 15% rate. I count that as 50% effective rate. And let’s not forget that capital gains taxes only come into play when your investments make money – when you lose for the year you are limited to $3k annual deduction – with carry forwards.

    • Ted Crawford

      I believe Norm that you will find that most Americans, myself included, don’t give a D__N, how much money Romney has, where he keeps it or how much he pays in taxes! I don;t care even a fraction as much about Romneys finances as I do about my own and those of my Country. The latter two have taken a terrible beating under Obama and I demand a change!

      • eddie47d

        Of coarse you don’t care about how Romney “earned” his money or where he hides his “creative destruction” gains. That is obvious from many here over the last several months. No different than the callous attitude in NOT caring about what Wall Street did to our nation and our finances. They kept their money while the country suffered. Corporate raiders (and Romney has a bulls eye on his back with the fancy financing he pulled off) are crony capitalists at their worst. Heck Bain Capital was Enron before Enron savaged this country and peoples faith in our financial systems.

      • jopa

        Ted: There is a good chance Romney may have committed fraud and income tax evasion.If convicted how would that look to the rest of the world when we have a guy like Bernie Madoff in the White House.Of course he may pardon himself.

      • George E

        Jopa,

        You’re grasping at straws. I could say that there’s a good chance Obama isn’t an American citizen, or any one of many other such allegations if I wanted, but that doesn’t solve our most pressing problems of the day; ie, weak economic growth and overwhelming federal debt. I want someone in office that understands and appreciates how capitalist economics actually works, and committed to fixing these problems. I don’t think Obama fits this requirement, but it appears that Romney might.

      • Norm

        Well ted you should!
        When the “1%” live by their own self-made rules than we are NOT living in a Democratic Republic- we are living in a dictatorship ruled by the elite.

    • Mable 8

      You had better be concerned about your messiah’s tax returns. When Romney released his two years tax returns, the auditors said everything was in order; they were not so generous with ozero’s returns and labelled them “questionable.” I think you are after the wrong person, Norm.

    • Dale left coast

      Norm . . . what made you trust the “O”? His tax returns, his extensive executive experience, his exclusion from the bar association, his unknown college achievements or his Kenyan ancestry?

    • jopa

      Norm;Even the 2010 forms were not complete and there are hundreds of pages missing.

    • George E

      Norm,

      If you’re concerned Romney did something illegal when reporting his income tax, ask the IRS. It’s their job to determine if taxpayers are paying their legally required amounts, not yours. If your concern is that the tax law is not fair, take that up with Congress. It’s their job to write or re-write those laws. My guess is Romney hasn’t done anything illegal or the IRS would be all over him, especially now in this political year.

  • Ted Crawford

    I believe that there are far, far more “Birthers” out there than will ever come foward, and that is a very, very good thing! Can anyone even begin to imagine the resultant chaos that would insue, should it be proven that Obama was, in fact born in Kenya ! ! It would be nothing short of devastating! The answers to this Obama problem are far more easy, close, and safe, than pursuing this “Birther” issue! It’s November 6, 2012! VOTE, and if you live in an area that doesn’t require a Photo ID, vote as often as possible!

    • eddie47d

      Most of this birther issue is nothing more than political wrangling and you could be roping the wrong horse. Reminds me of our guy in Colorado ( R-Gessler) who is trying to prove voter fraud. He found a few out of compliance but he also nabbed legal citizens. Four of the citizens interviewed (Denver Post) were from Venezuela,Canada,Mexico and Germany. All were here legally and legally registered to vote. So part of Gessler’s attempts are civic duty and part witch hunt.

      • Daveh234

        Mostly witch hunt in my opinion. Inconsequential as far as numbers go. I vote by mail and they don’t ask for an ID. No one is trying to change that.

      • George E

        Eddie,

        Protecting the integrity of the voting process is everyone’s responsibility. If people think elections are rigged, they will discontinue voting, and will voice their discontent through other, possibly violent means. There has certainly been cases of voter fraud, and elections being won by candidates who benefited from such fraud. The latest example of this was Al Franken’s win in Minnesota for US Senator, giving Obama the tie-breaking vote he needed to pass Obamacare. If it becomes known that the only way an election can be won is through voter fraud, there is no telling just how corrupt our political system can become. Most everyone understands it’s not unreasonable to ask for a photo ID to “prove” who you are before doing many things, even voting for our public officials. Democrats look like they know they are benefiting from voter fraud and want to defend processes that allow voter fraud to take place. If they spent as much time expressing their concern for voter fraud and protecting the integrity of the election process as they do making lame excuses on behalf of ignoring this issue, they’d have more credibility on this subject in my opinion.

        • txbadonetoo

          The US Supreme Court has already ruled that states have the right to require voter ID to vote.. It’s a done deal. Holder keeps trying to sue the states to stop them and he loses as the Supreme Court has spoken. Much as I hate the decision on ObamaCare I have to live with it.. You guys have to live with the right of states to determine if they want to have voter ID requirements.
          And.. all polls show that 70% of Americans support voter ID laws. And it’s NEVER been proven that voter ID laws discriminate against minorities. Time to buth up and deal with life..

  • george Moberly

    I don’t Know where the president was born. What I do know is he doesn’t appear to be proud to be an American. In all mylife I have never seen the US military speak out against the commander -in chief like they have with this president. I was in the US Army in the 60′s during the Viet-Nam war. We kept our mouths shut about politics for the most part. As far as Obama’s birth is concerned I don’t feel this is as important as his dis-regard for the constitution and our bill of rights. When he started to bypass law and put forth his own dream law and remove the work requirement in welfare that scares me.

    • Txbadonetoo

      George, Bless you for your service.in the military.

    • Mountain Saint

      George, John McCain never was a war hero…As the admiral’s son, he recived favorable treatment as a POW (even though he betrayed his fellow pilots) and was quickly placed in a hotel in Hanoi with his hookers and treated like royality – per guards…Earlier, he was horsing around and he set afire the jet behind him and caused an explosion that killed 131 sailors. Because he was the admiral’s son, he was reassigned to another carrier without punishment.

      • CaptMoosie

        Mountain Saint, get your facts right before mouthing off about something that you haven’t a clue about. Regarding Sen. John MCCain: he was not the cause of the unfortunate fire aboard the US Navy’s carrier USS Forrestal in 1967 which was caused by a malfunctioning weapons arming electrical circuit (for the Zuni rockets) aboard a F-4B Phantom II fighter bomber. John McCain was a Douglas Aircraft A-4 Skyhawk pilot and never flew Phantoms, ever. He’s very lucky to be alive, as he was sitting in his aircraft prepping for a combat mission when the Zuni rocket fired, flew across the carrier’s deck and hit another parked aircraft loaded with old WWII iron bombs. Don’t blame him for that accident jerkwad. LEARN THE FACTS by reading an article from Wikipedia regarding the accident that killed so many sailors during the Viet Nam War:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrestal_fire

        Enough of the history lesson for today!

        Signed,

        A U.S. Army Vet of Grenada (2/75th Rangers), and the ’91 Gulf War (USAR, Captain).

      • george Moberly

        Not only do you not know anything about the requirements to be a natural born citizen now you want to spin history to prove something else you don’t know.

      • eddie47d

        Seems like Mountain Saint could be another sleazy Conservative back stabbing a veteran for political purposes.

    • Daveh234

      He didn’t remove the work requirement for welfare.

      • DaveH

        The TANF memorandum issued by HHS (under Obama) says:
        “HHS is encouraging states to consider new, more effective ways to meet the goals of TANF, particularly helping parents successfully prepare for, find, and retain employment. Therefore, HHS is issuing this information memorandum to notify states of the Secretary’s willingness to exercise her waiver authority under section 1115 of the Social Security Act to allow states to test alternative and innovative strategies, policies, and procedures that are designed to improve employment outcomes for needy families”.
        http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/policy/im-ofa/2012/im201203/im201203.html
        Since when does the President have the ability to change laws? Only Congress can do that legally.

      • DaveH
  • proud to be an American

    If there is so much doubt about tax records for Romney, what in the heck do we need the IRS for? With OBOMBINATION CARE, and adding 600 new agents on the government dole, I would assume that they will check out Romney’s tax statements, or we can have Geithner check them out. Hey, would that be like letting the fox guard the chicken coop?

    • AZ-Ike

      Don’t you know that all elected officials have placed themselves above the law?

  • DavidL

    Romney is whatever he needs to be for the moment as long as it helps his con succeed.

    No one ever asked him for his birth certificate, but he is being asked, repeatedly, if he cheats on his taxes. He won’t proof hat he isn’t.

    STERICYCLE!

    • Txbadonetoo

      First of all it’s prove – not proof. And do you honestly think that Turbo Tax Timmy Geithner (who cheated on his own taxes and now runs the IRS) didn’t get instructions from Obama et al to check out Romney’s taxes? Just because Harry Reid fakes a phone call doesn’t make someone a tax cheat..

      Think. And then think again. And when you’re done thinking please explain why Obama has spent $Millions sequestering his own records for 5 years.. Get back to me on that.

      • DavidL

        Thanks for fixing my typo. I agree it should be prove. We agree on nothing else.

        Romney should release his tax returns!

    • George E

      DavidL,

      Romney obviously has released all of his tax returns to the IRS. It’s their job to determine if there are any illegalities therein, not ours. If you have a problem with the tax law, take it up with Congress who makes these laws. I think we can safely assume that Romney has taken only legal deductions. Otherwise, the IRS would have him by the neck. Something you might wish to look into are the charitable deductions each of the candidates have taken. This shows something of their personal views regarding voluntarily helping others in need in their communities, something tax payments don’t show.

      • txbadonetoo

        I’m sure that Turbo Tax Timmy has reviewed each of Romney’s tax returns.. And let’s not forget Timmy (Geithner) cheated on his own taxes before Obama appointed him to head up the Treasury and the IRS.. Talk about ironic.

      • Gea

        Romney regularly gives 15% to charity, compared with 1% that Obama gives or less than 1% that Biden gives. Marxist policies of Obama demand that WE the people give to charity by paying higher taxes.

        As we know from history, neither Marxism, or Islamism, are very good in creating just and compassionate society as they pretend to want to do. Obama will be gone in a landslide and take Democratic party which allowed him his cavorting with Muslim Brotherhood down with him. Barak Hussein Obama can then to to his Muslim half-brothers in Kenya, his Muslim Brothers in Egypt or to his king in Saudi Arabia and write the Dreams of My Mother, which would be much more interesting than Dreams of My Father.

        It should explain how a 17 year old white girl falls for a 6 years older African, gets seduced and has a child at 18, and than finds out that her lover is already married with children in Kenya., but wanted another wife, which his religion allowed (up to 4 wives in Islam). They this same women, with the small Barry Hussein falls for another Marxist Muslim from Indonesia, 8 years older and leaves her country to study women in Indonesia, taking little Barry with him (6-10 y old) and then shipping him back to US at the age of 10 to live with his white grandparents.

        • txbadonetoo

          Obama gives much more than 1% but Biden is an embarrasment.. Biden says “it’s patriotic to pay more in taxes to help others) yet he donates about 0.6% of his income to charity and charges his own Secret Service staff to live in a cottage on his estate.
          .
          Obama doesn’t understand the difference between charity (if news reports are true Obama doesn’t help his half brother with $1 in Kenya – yet he keeps lecturing US about how WE are our brothers keeper) and taxes/redistribution. Obama needs to lead by example and help his family..

          Biden just doesn’t understand much of anything.. which makes it impossible for me to take anything he say seriously about helping others and being Patriotic for me to pay more in taxes.

          I honestly just don’t think Obama/Biden understand the difference between ‘Individual charity’ and forced taxes.. But I do.
          .

          • Gea

            Obama is a Marxist Muslim , just as his father from Kenya and step-father from Indonesia were. Marxism is very attractive to youg people becuase it was sold as “social justice”. IN practice it creates rich class of Communistts who rule with an iron hand and do not let anybody threaten their political or econmic power, thus they hate enterpreneurs. that is what finally destoryed many Aftican countreis, in addition to Islam, which is even more vile promoting dhimmitude, slavery, misogyny, pedophilia, polygamy and murder for Allahu Akbar.

            Obamas are rich people,and they became rich by telling stories. Obama speaks and writes wll, which got him into the White House. However, I would never hire him to run a company. He would be good in a marekting department since he has a problem of differentiation betweeh facts and the fiction that he tells in his stories.

          • txbadonetoo

            Gea – we share the same values and opinions.

          • Gea

            Ous values are based on Declaration of Independence and US Constitution and not on Das Kapital or Koran, as Obama’s are. We are Americans and not Marxists or Muslims! Just look what had become of the societies which believed those fake nasty gods of Communism and Islam! Dysfunctional societies based on lies and fear to speak out!

            Obama will lose with a landslide and take Democratic party with him down the drain of the Muslim Brotherhood. They can all go to Egypt to enjoy their “new freedom”, resulting from the Arab Spring which had turned into hot winter ;-)!

  • boyscout

    Four years ago America voted into office Not W. The consensus response of postings here is of the opinion that we should soon vote in Not O. Even simple minds should see a correlation of pattern failure with this option.
    All media political releases are biased, dirty, propagandizing, and designed to obfuscate the hidden agendas of candidates from the two faced one party system. That’s American politics as we have known it. If you refuse to do anything about this situation, then you continue to perpetuate it; so get over it.
    I remain an independent voter. I served my country, I do pay taxes regardless of their perceived legality, and I try to not vote for evil in any guise. From this upcoming election conundrum I see but one escape hatch; and that being the Libertarian ticket.

    • Txbadonetoo

      Great Boyscout – so you and all of your Ron Paul brothers will write in Ron and help Obama stay in office.. think about your insanity..

      • boyscout

        Not exactly. I will vote Gary Johnson and console myself with the fact that I did not promote either two faced pretender, and that I offered a signal (although somewhat muted) that some in this country are wakefully aware of elitist skullduggery.

        • Txbadonetoo

          BoyScout.. you’ll still be personally responsilbe for essentially voting for Obama. But I won’t bother trying to rationalize with you..

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Actually, Txbadonetoo! The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I say, you are the one who is insane! You keep voting for the candidates THEY give you, yet you think it will be different this time! EVERY candidate that THEY give you, works for THEM!!! NOTHING changes! We keep going down the SAME road! It doesn’t matter if they have a D or an R after their name! The agenda is the SAME!!! If you don’t like the road we’re on right now, get off of it!!!

        • Txbadonetoo

          If you’re comfortable with 4 more years of Obama then vote for Ron Paul.. I think it’s insanity. We know exactly what those 4 years will bring. Ron Paul isn’t going to win – and for some good reasons. So yes I will take the lesser of two evils and I’ll blame blowhards such as you for wasting votes if we get 4 more years of Obama.

      • boyscout

        Actually, I see myself personally responsible.

        • Txbadonetoo

          I don’t see the insanity in your actions.. I see a stubborn person who would rather waste a vote vs. help go forward. Ron Paul lost – for good reasons. Move on or be part of the problem.

      • TIME

        Dear Txbad,

        Perhaps this may aid you in understanding BoyScout let alone many millions of us who are just like him.

        ” Evil exist only when GOOD MEN do nothing.”

        Thus by voting for the lesser of two “EVILS” – { who are both owned by the same people } – that sure seems crazy, but perhaps we all are wrong. Afterall it was Daddy Bush that told us all of the NEW WORLD ORDER, odd how the D’s and R’s all seem to be in that same NWO boat.

        That aside, just where are the US Votes from this alledged election going to be counted again?
        Can you say SPAIN?

        After all Barry OMEN is the “Clown” and who will he bring forth?
        Seems to me that someone wrote this all down many years ago.

        Peace and Love

      • AZ-Ike

        It isn’t those who will write in Ron Paul or vote for Gary Johnson who will be responsible for a 2nd term for Obama. It is the Republican Party and self-professed conservative commentators who prohibited any conservative choice by the GOP. So you KNOW where to assign the blame–and it is NOT those who support the Constitution.

  • Mountain Saint

    Txbadonetoo and others, I repeat, Mitt’s father never was naturalized (no records) and, accordingly, he never was a US citizen. …Both parents have to be American citizens at the time of Mitt’s birth before he can become a natural born citizen (per established law at the time the Constitution was written). Mitt’s dad died a Mexican citizen.

    • george Moberly

      Mountain Saint Romney was born in Bloomfield Hills , Mi . That makes him a NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN. Thats the law period. No matter how you spin it Like President Reagan said you liberals know so much that you don’t know; Moe

      • Mountain Saint

        George, there is a difference between natural born citizen and a citizen by birth. Yes, Mitt was born in the United States (so were millions of children born to illegal aliens) but his dad (and probably mother) was not an American citizen. His dad, George, never was naturalized (no record) ..No, I am not a Democrat. I am an Independent who has voted for Republicans on occasion.

      • AZ-Ike

        Even if George’s father retained his U.S. citizenship (and that hasn’t been established), George, himself, was born in Mexico which means he automatically became a Mexican citizen according to THEIR laws. If he never renounced it, at best he was a dual citizen and could only convey that dual citizenship to Mitt.

    • Txbadonetoo

      Again – Obama’s father was NEVER a US citizen so regardless of where he was born he’s not a ‘natural born citizen’. End of story.. If the Supreme Court had any balls they would take up this issue and rule on it..

    • Txbadonetoo

      So Mountain – you admit that Obama is not legally able to be President since his father was a British subject all of his life.. Thanks for confirming that Obama is not a ‘natural born citizen’ and not legally able to be President.

      • CaptMoosie

        Me thinks there needs to be some clarification made here in regard to what constitutes a person being a US Citizen, pursuant to the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution. Here is a little something I found online:

        Citizenship Equality

        The 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution states that all U.S. citizens are viewed and treated as equals despite the path to citizenship. Therefore, there is no legal difference between a natural born U.S. citizen and a naturalized citizen. All citizens receive the same rights, protections and responsibilities.

        Birthright

        Citizenship by birthright can be acquired two ways: birth on U.S. soil or birth to an U.S. citizen parent. Any person born on U.S. soil (children of diplomats excluded) are automatically U.S. citizens regardless of the citizenship status of parents. A child born to illegal immigrants is a legal U.S. citizen by birthright. Children born to an U.S. citizen living outside of the United States also receive automatic citizenship by birth.

        Read more: United States Citizenship Rules | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/list_6652689_united-states-citizenship-rules.html#ixzz24x6J0xYw

        A whole buncha of you folks are wrong in your statement of facts regarding Citizenship and how it is obtained. If you don’t believe what I have posted above that do a Google search on the subject, including the actual 14th Amendment.

        So so sick of the factless bickering……

      • boyscout

        CaptMoosie, Thanks for the research. Going round and round with that circle jerk was getting really nausiating.

        • CaptMoosie

          Boyscout, you’re very welcome. No wonder my head is spinning, it was circlejerk! brababababababaahahahhahahahaha!!!!!!!!

      • AZ-Ike

        Capt. Moosie:

        WHERE did you get your information?

        The 14th Amendment states:
        “Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States AND SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

        You seem to ignore the clause ‘and subject to the jurisdiction thereof’ and to the statement that they are ‘citizens’—not ‘natural born’ citizens.

        While persons within the U.S. are subject to U.S. laws, that is only partial ‘jurisdiction.’ Illegals who are in the U.S. must obey the laws or they are arrested for violations. However, as Mexican citizens, Mexico has ‘jurisdiction’ over them and can impose whatever requirements Mexico deems reasonable for its citizens. Total jurisdiction includes complete ‘allegiance’ and being ‘outside of (above) the influence’ or ‘requirements’ of another country.

        As children automatically assume the citizenship of their parents, the children of illegals are Mexican citizen (or whatever country claims citizenship of the illegal parents.) Technically, Mexico could require the U.S. born children of Illegals to serve in the Mexican military. That puts those ‘birthright citizens’ outside the jurisdiction of the U.S.

        The 14th Amendment, through numerous letters and papers, was never intended to apply to those who are in this country illegally. The change in the interpretation of the 14th Amendment was made by Justice William J. Brennan in his 1982 decision of Phyler v. Doe in which his decision forced Texas to grant free public education to the children of illegal aliens. That decision was further interpreted to grant citizenship to the children of illegals born in the U.S. Until that time, citizenship was NEVER granted to children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens.

        As for your ‘citizenship equality,’ the 14th Amendment is citizenship by law. It does not even address natural born citizenship. If it takes a law to define one’s citizenship, the person cannot be considered as ‘naturally’ born a citizen.

        For a good explanation of ‘birthright citizenship’ read the “Texas Review of Law & Politics,” Vol. 14, ‘Citizenship for Children of Illegal Aliens,’ article: BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP FOR CHILDREN OF ILLEGAL ALIENS: AN IRRATIONAL PUBLIC POLICY by LINO A. GRAGLIA*

  • Bob

    I really feel that obama should be given more time,,,,I think that 35 years in the LOUISIANA STATE PRISON would be about right….

  • FedUP!

    How stupid that we have a president that has a lawyer admitting his birth certificate is fake and just because someone came up the the dumb name birther: oh shhhh they will call you a birther! Oh well I think we have bigger fish to fry. Wow what the hell happened to people? This is absurd!!!

    • CaptMoosie

      The issue that the Romneys have only paid a 13.9% Tax level is really a non-issue. A lot of people don’t understand that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (ie, Mormon Church) require their members to donate no less than 10% of their income through “Tithing” (if they can afford to do so), so it is very conceivable they have a very large Tax Deduction thus resulting in such a low Tax Rate. This deduction is permitted under the Federal tax Code, as well as the state they reside in (Utah), A great majority of Americans take the very same Charitable deduction each and every year. Heck, the Roman Catholic Church and other churches require tithing as well. Here’s a link of a newspaper article form the Salt Lake City Tribune that discusses the Romney’s Charitable Contributions and donations:

      http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57499296-503544/romney-my-mormon-tithing-should-be-private/

      And no, I’m not a Mormon, but I do know a few persons that are…..

  • http://aol jerrol ballard

    what about obumers own grandmother stateing he was born in kenya before she died?

    • uvuvuv

      who somehow died before anyone could ask her any questions?

      • Marty S.

        Quite uncanny and chilling.

  • uvuvuv

    i will end this argument, he was born in hawaii. ann obama nee dunham was only 18 at the time her son was born (the time frame from 1942 to 1961) and as pregnant would be unlikely to have interest in traveling to kenya taking 6 hour flights to give birth in a 3rd world hospital even if she had the money, which neither she nor her husband had. she would need a passport and visas also which is a further complication besides the inconvenience of being born to struggling parents and marrying someone even poorer. actually nairobi had fine hospitals, they were built by the british and various missionary organizations, and so one could say, the africans didn’t build that.

    • Dale left coast

      Maybe in your mind . . . . lol
      But . . . Bammy’s grandmother said she attended his birth . . . and she has NEVER left Kenya in her entire life.
      Riddle two . . . the immigration records in Seattle for August 1962 have been flushed . . . why do you suppose that is?
      Riddle three . . . why do you suppose ALL college records were sealed? Foreign student status maybe?
      Riddle four . . . SS Number belonging to another person . . . why?

  • Tom

    So…..Why exactly is it verboten for Romney to “hint” at Obama’s citizenship, even jokingly. At birth, Obama was a natural born subject of the Queen of England and a naturel born citizen of the British empire. Do we no longer value truth?

  • CaptMoosie

    Actually, Nobama’s father may have been Frank Marshall, a well known Marxist. He even filmed porno flicks of Obama’s mother in Hawaii. Obama from Kenya was most likely duped and a stand-in father, and even mentored the youngster in Marxism…… DNA testing can verify this, but I strongly doubt that the POTUS would submit to said testing. But I ask this: why all the cover-up and denials? There’s got to be more than this can of worms history of his, and what meets the eye at first glance!

  • Ken

    I think Barry would make a Wonderful President in his Home Country—-Kenya

    • Dale left coast

      Great Plan . . . we should pass the hat . . . and bid him farewell ! ! !

  • Mountain Saint

    uvuvuv, Barry Soetoro’s (Obama) real dad is Frank Marshal Davis and we don’t know where he was born (no hospital records for Obama or his mother in Hawaii)…But we do know that Obama was adopted by Soetoro and made a citizen of Indonesia…..Accordingly, neither Obama or Mitt are natural born citizens. Yes, we do have a constitutional crisis on our hands and, unfortunately, both political parties are trying to sweep the scandal under the rug.

    • Dale left coast

      MS . . . you are dillusional . . . Mitt was born in Michigan to US citizen parents . . . O’bammy was born in Kenya, according to his grandmother, to a Kenyan National and a 19 yo American Citizen. One is qualified to be pres . . . one is not . . . can you figure it out?

    • George Moberly

      OK Mountain sorry for calling you a lib. I’m also independant. It doe’s not matter if neither of his parents were citizens. If he was born in the US on US soil he is a natural citizen. I researced this earlier. I will not argue this point any further. Use your browser click on requirements for natural citizenship then read.

  • Thomas P. Riley

    Obama may have been born in the US, but a nature born citizen is ruled by the supreme court case defines a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AS ONE BORN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ON WHOM BOTH PARENTS ARE UNITED STATES CITIZENS. THIS MEANS HE IS NOT ILLEGABLE TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, HIS FATHER WAS A CITIZEN OF KENYA… AND IT IS ON THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE HE PROVIDED. GOOGLE US SUPREME COURT RULINGS ON NATURAL BORN CITIZEN…. and by the way someone in 2007 got into the supreme court rules and started deleting cases involved NATURAL BORN citizen rulings. There are a lot of rulings missing right now, but they did not get all of them, because a lot of other cases made reference to the NATURAL BORN CITIZEN RULING OF 1875…. THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA HAVE BE DEFRAUDED BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND OBAMA HIMSELF.

  • Barry Karant

    What interests me the most are the people who NOW insist that Mitt have TWO Naturalized Birth Parents to qualify to be President. Have you forgotten that Barack Sr. was Kenyan and had a British Passport? Either Obama is NOT and has NEVER been qualified, or you basically have to shut up. Lastly, for what reason would Obama have his school records sealed? The question is open, and if he were truly transparent, he would open them.

    • Ken

      Isn’t it Allll to obvious why Obama has spent soooo much money to have his records sealed??? Why R we making this more complicated than it is?

  • Mountain Saint

    Sheriff Joe has determined that Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery…. We don’t know where Obama was born. There are no hospital records for Obama or his mother in Hawaii but at least three “live” witnesses to his birth in Africa in Kenya. …Yes, Congress should investigate both candidates nativity story and check the Romney records and interview the family in Mexico to determine Mitt’s natural born status.

    • Steve

      Try looking in Seattle for the record. Might find the mom with an unknown Father.

  • Mountain Saint

    Capt Moosie, you should know by that you can’t believe anything written in Wikipedia. I have my own sources and, yes, John McCain did set the missiles on the other aircraft on fire, killing 131 sailors. Yes, John McCain did betray America by giving top secret flight patterns to the enemy, killing pilots..And, yes, it was John McCain who abandoned our POWs and MIAs in Viet Nam after the war, resulting in their deaths…I should know because I was assigned to intelligence during the war.

    • CaptMoosie

      Mountain Saint, you’re full of chit man and your accusations are way off base full of non-truths and nothing but non-truths. I’ve seen 3 separate documentaries on cable TV (Military Channel was one of them) that covered the incident. I also have 2 books on the subject at hand, where all state that McCain was not responsible. If you refute it then provide the facts with reference please, otherwise shut up and remain silent.

      As for your statement that you were an Intelligence Officer during ‘Nam I find that suspect. Please provide your Rank at Discharge, Brand of Service, and MOS…..and Security Clearance level. Be careful about what you state in response, as I have a very high Security Clearance and thus will spot a fakester a Klick away. Have a go buddy….shall we dance?

      ****”Shaking head in disbelief @ the BS flying around in here…..”****

      • Mountain Saint

        Captain Moosie, if you have such a high security clearance level and you are on the job, how come you can post messages in the middle of the day?

        • CaptMoosie

          Mountain whatever,

          Did I say I CURRENTLY held Security Clearances? No I did not. I use to hold them when I was in the service.

          And the reason I can post in the thread all day long: I am the President and Principal Engineer of my own Consulting Engineering Firm, and I’m a Licensed/Registered Professional Engineer (New York State and CT). That’s why, you dumb FUK.

          You’re wasting my time, therefore I will not respond any further to your crappola statements, which BTW, are insulting and/or non-factual.

  • Life is…

    The mindset of the people who are posting on here is very clear. ALL talk not much action. Once we as ONE country, ONE people learn to govern ourselves, and shed the hatred of this country’s foundation. Maybe then can we ALL live in a place of peace, freedom, and justice for ALL.

    • CaptMoosie

      “Absolutfreakinglutely A” Life is…says. Amen to that!!!!

  • SJJolly

    Mitt Romney a Birther? Near certainly, No. But, he definately is a pander to every Tea Party and Republican hard-right nutcase-group. If elected, is he going to be tough enough to tell them to “Bug-off!” ?

  • Mountain Saint

    Captain Moosie, your documentaries and books are not very accurate because they are based on the reports that John McCain himself wrote. .I don’t believe that you are even a captain and definitely not a gentleman…I am not about to give you any information about myself. The Government is already after me and other patriots…As for McCain, it is a fact that by trying to scare the pilot behind him with a “wetstart” (a practical joke), he set off a missile or rocket on the other plane that killed 168 sailors….This is not bad for a pilot who was at the bottom of his class and couldn’t fly….If the Government can’t shut me up, a lowly captain with a phony record certainly won’t be able to do it.

  • OMann

    Wow, everyone has an opinion, but some posted here are uniquely wierd. stick your head in the sand and Vote for Ron Paul or Libertarian, Barack Obama thanks and hugs you!! Vote Mitt Romney and vote for America.

  • Jimbo

    Obama and Reid have been hounding Romney to release more tax returns. Rather than incrementally releasing the returns, why didn’t Romney just say, publicly, out loud, that he’ll be glad to release an additional tax return in exchange for a UN DOCTORED, VERIFIABLE BIRTH CERTIFICATE from Obama? He could offer another tax return for a look at Obama’s passports, college records, etc. Why doesn’t anyone on the conservative side ever think of these things? Come to think of it, why wasn’t this demanded BEFORE Obama got into office?

    • old goat

      You’re getting to the core of things – call it common sense— Why would anyone vouch for Obama’s birth, professor-ships, law licenses, grades, education or anything else – Obama sealed the records & uses a ton of collusion to keep them sealed. If one vouches for a fraud & they’re not a witness to it, they’re parties to the fraud! Post election priorities are – jail Holder & let the sun shine in! If there’s no fraud let the world know that with conviction & knowledge!

      If it looks like a skunk & cohabitates wit skunk, you know it ain’t a kitty cat.

  • DEBBIE

    WOW! WHAT THE HECK PEOPLE. MR.OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII ISNT THAT PART OF THE UNITED STATES! AND AS FOR HIS MOTHER SHE WAS BORN AND RAISED IN WICHITA,KANSAS THE UNITED STATES! AND AS FOR MR MITT ROMNEY AS A MORMAN, THEY DONT BELEAVE IN CHRISTMAS AND WHEN CHRIST WAS BORN, I THINK YOU REPUBS NEED TO GET THE FACTS RIGHT OR STAY OUT OF THE PRESIDENTS WAY AND LET HIM DO HIS JOB. THIS MEANS TO CLEAN UP WHAT BUSH STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND GET THE UNITED STATES BACK ON TRACK.

    • Lois Armstrong

      Ya this president is doing a job on us alright.
      Bush may have had his mistakes but so have all the rest and some worse than others but none as bad as this one. Just stick to what is happening now. We can change the future but never the past.

    • OMann

      I believe he was born in Kenya, not part of the great USA. Besides that I believe he is a twit and heathen, and he and his family need to move out of US Govt housing, mainly 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. So there, nah, nah, nah nah.

  • CaptMoosie

    Mountain, you certainly like to piss off people don’t you? I take EXTREME offense from your accusations. I say it the way it is, regardless if I was once an Officer and a Gentleman. My service ended nearly 21 years ago following my return from the Gulf War, so that doesn’t count anymore….so freaking excuse me for wanting to kick your sorry ass to the curbside presently!

    I certainly was a Captain (O-3) and was on the promotion list to Major, O-4, at the time I resigned my Commissioned Officer’s status after 14.5 years of service (4.5 years Enlisted + 10 years Officer via OCS) to my country. Let’s see, you haven’t even answered my questions regarding your service record. What, you want a copy of my DD-214? LOL, what a freaking joke you are. I really think you’re delusional thinking the Government is after you. So, what mental hospital did you escape from anyhow? Careful now buddy, my wife is a Mental Health Registered Nurse and has been for quite some time…… ROTFLMAO

    The content of the ’67 USS Forrestal accident in both the books and the film documentaries was based on a the transcripts of the US Navy Accident Investigation that was held following the accident.

    Again get you facts straight man. first you state that 131 died, then next we here from you it’s 160 something?

    Ohhhhh boy……………

  • swampfox

    let’s concentrate on rearing our leg way back and giving ovomot the boot this November,we need to kick him in the ass so hard that he can wear his worthless Marxist a** for a hat.
    I just want to see the boob gone,bye,syanora,begone,
    I damn sure won’t miss Yah…..at all!!!!!!!

  • lucy

    You should apply this same “comment policy” to the authors of your articles. They seem to be quite comfortable making slanderous comments and name calling. Don’t ever want to read your publication again.

  • RevNowWhileWeCan

    Romney is not allowed to be a “birther” and I’m sure was scolded for his comments as his (again) follow up comments, once again leaves his (if he actually has any) stance on any issues a question mark.

  • JeffH

    We have someone sitting the in White House without any verifiable credentials

    Here are a few facts:
    •Moreover, by Obama’s own admission, he is not qualified for the Office because his father was never a citizen (Minor v. Happersett 1875 – child of two citizen parents)
    •No court to date has followed the binding precedent from the Supreme Court’s Minor v. Happersett case, by finding Obama constitutionally ineligible to serve as President
    •Attorneys that file to have this Supreme Court precedent, and the Constitution, upheld are demonized in the media and persecuted by the Courts
    •The Congress sits idly by and does nothing
    •Mainline candidates for President treat it like a joke

  • JimH

    It’s not a false statement. Nobody has asked Romney for his birth certificate.
    If there is an insinuation(yes) it’s up to anyone who heard the statement to decide what it is.

  • ehancock

    The meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the PLACE of birth, not the parents.

    “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

    “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).

    Here are sources to turn to for further research:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born-citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution

    http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/scotus-natural-born-citizen-a-compendium.html

    http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/the-natural-born-citizenship-clause-updated.html

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/#nbc

    http://www.obamabirthbook.com/http:/www.obamabirthbook.com/2012/02/an-open-letter-to-mario-apuzzo/

    http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=21346

  • brazzos

    I want to see his birth certificate. His father was in Mexico for a time. How do we know Mitt was born in Michigan. And as his taxes for the last couple of years, I guarantee his desire not to reveal them, will show him as working for Bain Capital, long after he said he left that firm. And Trump should get his boy a good job, when November rolls around.

    • JimH

      brazzos, So far nobody has asked to see Romney’s birth certificate. Maybe you could be the lucky one to be the first.
      The fact he mentioned it, I’m sure it would hold up to scrutiny.( unlike another one I know of)

  • CRAXXYFREDDIE

    ROMNEY BETTER BRING THIS TO A HEAD > THEIR IS TO MUCH PROOF OUT THEIR > I BELIEVE HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND YOUR REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRATS ARE ALL IN THIS CONSPIRACY TOGETHER . WITH THIS DC CROWD OF OF DESTRUCTION MONGERS > WE NEED A TOTAL CLEAN OUT IN OUR COMMUNIST ( 70 OF THEM ) CROWDED CONGRESS >? SO MY FELLOW AMERICAN I HOPE YOU ALL WAKE UP ( IN TIME ) AND CLEAN HOUSES !

  • Gea

    To me it does not matter if Obama was born in Kanya, Hawaii or Tibet…as long as he did not break US laws. What matters to me that his Marxist Islamists policies are TOTALLY UN-American and therefore he will lose in a land-slide in November. HE will take with him the entire Democratic party and we will have to deal with some rather nutty Republicans to undo damage done both by Bush and Obama in the last 12 years. We, the people. work cur for us, on all levels of government. We cannot relegate democracy to just voting, but need to be vigilant at local, state and federal decision making process daily.

    We MUST go green, both to stop heating up the earth and to stop financing for terrorism, which Saudis and Iranian do with US oil money. Obama is making US even more unsafe by cavorting with Muslim Brotherhood, whose genocidal supremacist ideology of Islam led to 9/11 and Obama bowing to Saudi king, whose subjects committed crimes of 9/11 indicates clearly where his true loyalties lie…not with US!

  • Cj

    Give it a break, hawaiian officials have said the birth certificate is real. Move pn

    • CaptMoosie

      Cj, there is no proof that O-Bozo’s Hawaiian Live Birth Certificate (LBC) is legitimate. Only an electronic copy of it has been posted on the White House website. So far, no hard copy of it has surfaced to be used for verification purposes. Perhaps you out to watch the Mariposa County Sheriff Dept. Press Conference (see URL Link below) where a non-partisant group of former law enforcement investigators found that said Obama’s LBC and his August 1980 Selective Service Registration Card were both forged documents by unknown persons. Both acts are Criminal Felonies.

      Here’s the link to the very long (1:20 hours) Press Conference:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_w0SVOwWGjw

      Personally, I started viewing this with an open mind, but after seeing it I am convinced that both documents are forgeries. The methodology of the investigation in flawless and conducting in the very same manner that the FBI would have done it (as it would hold up to intense scrutiny in a court of law). There are apparent electronic fingerprints present within the electronic document that someone had manipulated the LBC by electronic means, ie, using some sort of computer graphics software platform. It’s a very technical presentation. I’ll let the video speak for itself.

      • ehancock

        The facts on Obama’s birth certificate have been repeatedly confirmed by the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii, and by the Index Data file, and by the birth notices sent to the newspapers of Hawaii by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961.

        Only birther “experts”—-who have not proven that they are real experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial–have claimed that there is anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate. Those are reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and the National Review do not believe the “experts.” And recently the CONSERVATIVE Secretary of State of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on Obama’s birth certificate. And Hawaii did so, and the conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii, and he ruled that Obama’s name will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.

        • captmoosie

          No hard copy of Obama’s Live birth Certificate has ever been presented for verification purposes, ever. Everyone should read this article and view each and every video. And why are Obama’s lawyers trying to suppress the videos of the NJ Courts contained in that article, as follows:

          http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/

        • Gea

          It does not matter where Obama was born. He did spend ages 6-10 living in Indonesia with his Marxist Muslim stepfather and his father was a Marxist Muslim from Kenya where he has several Muslim half-brothers. Obamas tutor in Hawaii, was Frank Marshall Davis,who was a mamber of Communist Party. Thus, entire upbringing of Barak Hussein Obama is contrary to American values of freedom and human rights, which neither Marxistm or Islamists respect, sicne it is contrary to SUBMISSION to authority, either secular communists or Allahu Akbar.

          Obama is as UN -American as they come and he is a danger not only to US but entire Western Civilization. His allowing Muslim Brotherhood, a genocidal supremacist misogynist Islamist group from Egypt access to the White house and giving them money again, is downright traitorous of American values and his marketing of Marxism and Islamism under the guise of “justice and equality”, is trying to sell US duds, which belong on a dung heap of history, since such ideologies lead to totally dysfunctional societies of oppression. Barak Hussein Obama is a great story teller and does not belong to the White house but a promotional circuits for his story books. This is taqiyya at its best ;-)!~..

      • ehancock

        Regarding the statement that no hard copy of Obama’s birth certificate has been presented for verification purposes either. No hard copy of Romney’s birth certificate has been presented either, or that of John McCain, George Bush, Bill Clinton or any other president or presidential candidate. There is no law that says that candidates should show the physical copies of their birth certificates, and no official body that is supposed to look at them and vet them. Yet Obama has shown far more proof of being born in the USA than any other president or presidential candidate.

        As Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, the National Revew have all said, it is simply nutty to believe that Obama could have been born outside of the USA because of the overwhelming evidence that he was born in Hawaii, and no evidence at all that his mother even traveled outside the USA in 1961.

        We know that Obama has a Hawaii birth certificate in several ways.

        The first is the short-form birth certificate. It is generated by a clerk in the Hawaii DOH reading the information in the files and entering it in a computer form. For that to happen there has to be a document in the files. For the birth certificate not to exist, the clerk would have had to have been lying, and the confirmations by the Republican officials in 2008 would have to be lies as well.

        We also know that Obama had a birth certificate in 1961 from the notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH in that year.

        We know that only the DOH could send those notices for these reasons: Because the representative of the newspapers said so, because the representative of the DOH said so and because the section of the newspaper was called “Health Bureau Statistic”—which meant that the facts in it came from the Health Bureau, the DOH.

        In 1961, the DOH was not allowed to issue birth certificates to children born outside of Hawaii, and it only sent birth notices to the papers for children born in Hawaii.

        Some birthers claim that in 1961 Hawaii granted birth certificates to anyone whose relatives applied, but the officials in Hawaii have denied that was the case. They insist that the law in 1961 did not allow the DOH to issue a birth certificate that said “born in Honolulu (or any Hawaii location)” unless the child was actually born in that location and that there was evidence of it. And, you know, there are hundreds of thousands of people who were alive and living in Hawaii in 1961, and after that statement was made not one of them wrote to the newspapers or blogged that it was a lie.

        And there is the Index Data file and the statement of the witness who wrote home to her father, named Stanley, about “Stanley having a baby.” So we know that Obama had a Hawaii birth certificate.

        Your claim is that despite (1) the existence of Obama’s birth certificate being proven by the notices sent to the newspapers in 1961; (2) the officials in Hawaii stating that they sent both the short form and the long form versions of it to him, and (3) despite a reporter having said that she felt the seal on it–that Obama was not born in Hawaii and that both the officials in Hawaii and the reporter are lying.

        Obama’s mother lived in Hawaii. Obama’s father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961—and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the “born in Kenya” claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet you and other birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.

        • George E

          ehancock,

          Republican Party leaders don’t want to pursue this issue because they know it’s a political loser. They may not be convinced that Obama was born in the USA, but it’s not a winning strategy to dive into this controversy. Having said that, there are many folks across the country who are convinced Obama wasn’t actually born in the USA. It seems that Obama doesn’t really mind fanning the flames of controversy on this issue because he hasn’t tried real hard to put it to bed. Obama’s last effort to resolve this issue was to release a copy of his “official” birth certificate, which can be shown pretty quickly to be a fake. That has just made the voice of controversy all the louder.

          Personally, I think we ought to be talking more about Obama’s and Romney’s plans to revive the economy and less about issues like Obama’s birth certificate, although this issue is intriguing as is the question of whether he went to college here as a foreign exchange student as a citizen of Indonesia.

      • ehancock

        Re: “Obama’s last effort to resolve this issue was to release a copy of his “official” birth certificate, which can be shown pretty quickly to be a fake.”

        Actually, only birther “experts”—who have not shown that they are really experts, and who certainly have not shown that they are fair and impartial—-have claimed that Obama’s birth certificate is forged. Those are two reasons why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly and the National Review do not believe them. Rush Limbaugh will not even discuss it.

        Hawaii has stated that it sent the birth certificates to Obama, and the officials of BOTH parties in Hawaii have confirmed that there is a birth certificate on file and that the facts on it match those on the birth certificate in the files, and there were birth notices sent to the papers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961. And there is the public Index Data file that shows that there is a birth certificate for Obama filed in 1961.

        Recently the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona asked Hawaii to confirm that Obama was born there and to confirm other facts on his published birth certificate. Hawaii did, and the Conservative secretary of state of Arizona accepted it as evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii, and ruled that Obama will be on the ballot in Arizona in November.

        Obama’s mother lived in Hawaii. Obama’s father was studying in Hawaii. There is not a shred of evidence that either of them went from Hawaii to any other country in 1961—and certainly not to Kenya, where the Kenyan government said that it checked on the “born in Kenya” claim and found that it was false. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country, and pregnant women rarely traveled late in pregnancy in those days, and yet birthers think that there could be a chance that Obama was born outside of the USA and that the officials of both parties in Hawaii are lying about that fact.

      • ehancock

        Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia, as a telephone call to the Indonesian Embassy in Washington will confirm. And he never applied to college as a foreign exchange student. That story began as an April Fool’s article on April 1, 2009.

        • Bev

          You seem to know an awful lot about Obama’s birth certificate. You never provide any proof of anything you say; no references to web sites, books, newspapers, magazines, etc. I was just wondering where you acquired all this knowledge. Are you being paid by the Obamas to troll and spread BS?

  • WILLIAM SMITH

    DEAR SIR:
    I AM AN AMERICAN CITICEN(NATURALIZED) AND I THINK I KNOW THE LAW BETTER THAN YOU “REAL AMERICAN”.
    A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN ACCORDING TO THE CUSTITUTION IS A PERSON THAT IS BORN TO 2(TWO) AMERICAN CITIZENS.
    THE ANNOINTED ONE CAN NEVER QUALIFY, BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH
    SUBJECT.
    WE BELIEVE HE IS A MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, BORN TO MARXISTS, TRAINED BY MARXISTS AND EDUCATED BY MARXISTS.
    HE WILL BE RE-ELECTED, BECAUSE IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT IN HIS OR VALERIE
    JARED’S MIND, THEY WILL EITHER CANCEL THE ELECTION BY STAGING SOME PHONY INCIDENT OR THEY WILL START A WAR.
    HE WILL NOT LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. ACORN IS BACK IN BUSINESS(UNDER ANOTHER NAME OF COURSE) SO WE WILL HAVE PLENTY DOGS, DEAD PEOPLE AND ILLEGAL ALIENS VOTING BESIDES THE POPULATION, WHICH STILL DOES NOT GET IT.
    YOU WILL ALL DESERVE WHAT IS COMING.
    GO BACK IN HISTORY AND SEE WHAT ADOLPH DID IN GERMANY.

    • ehancock

      The meaning of Natural Born Citizen refers to the place of birth, not to the parents of a US-born citizen.

      “Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are “natural born citizens” eligible to serve as President …”—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]

  • Andrew Burns

    Severe muzzling of the print and TV press with respect
    to the Arpaio Cold Case Posse findings concerning
    Obama’s presidential eligibility clearly prevails –
    here in America! It scares the hell outta me that I don’t
    know of any press agency with the inclination and
    sufficient clout to breech it.

    Andrew Burns

  • john1253@aol.com

    Most people here are being distracted by the big picture which is that our country has been taken over by the satanic globalists (rothchilds, gates, buffet, rockefeller,etc). The globalists are a communist/facist/totalitarian group of psycopathic control freak euginists (population reduction). Both Romney & Obama are incompetent puppet telepromter readers who serve these globalists, not americans, and have a current agenda to take over other countries and ours with wars. There are currently 400,000 foreign troops is USA getting ready to take over possibly in OCT. It is possible 25-75 Million americans will be killed. They plan on crashing the economy, more false flag attacks, etc. Once they get control they want to kill off 90+% of all people on the planet. THIS IS REAL. Go to infowars.com and download the podcasts and listen to them! They are one of the largest information source worldwide.

    • txbadonetoo

      John,

      I welcome these foreign troops to take over my neighborhood.. We believe in the 2nd Amendment. And John, it’s time to put your Game Boy down.. and move on in life..

  • EMIL HINTERTHUER

    I THINK WE ALL SHOULD REQUIRE THAT THIS MAN IN THE W.H. SHOW ALL THE SEALED PAPERS ABOUT: BIRTH,SCHOOLS AND COLLEGE TO SEE HIS REAL GRADES.

  • Mountain Saint

    Where is the opposition party when we need them? Occidental College has just released Obama’s college transcript and it shows that Obama was, yes, a foreign student from Indonesia.. In order to live in Indonesia, a person had to be a citizen and Obama had become one when he was adopted by Mr. Soetoro..There are no records of Obama ever becoming an American citizen. …America elected a complete fraud in 2008 and he should be forced to drop out….As usual, the enuchs won’t do anything because, after all, they have their own fraud in Romney. Mitt’s dad was a Mexican citizen when Mitt was born.

    • ehancock

      Occidental has not released Obama’s transcript. The idea that it had, and the one that held that Obama was a foreign student, all came from an April Fool’s article originally posted on April 1, 2009. None of it is accurate. By the way, not only is the report wrong, but Obama actually is not an Indonesian citizen and never was, as a telephone call to the Indonesian embassy in Washington will confirm.

  • Rich

    After reading each of these no doubt storongly opinionated statements I have to laugh to keep from crying. Obama or whoever is pulling the strings, have accomplished what they set out to do….divide this great country as in ” divide $ concer(strange word & not sure I spelled it right but you know what I mean)! . We are fighting amongst ourselves instead of debating, discussing & solving our problems for the benefit of all. What have we become? History shows that issues like these eventually take down every great power/nation/civilization, so why repeat it? We are and have been the greatest Nation on earth because of our differences, because of the common good, but that’s pretty hard to find now. This country was founded on Christian principles…..that does not mean religion…that’s very different! The morals, ethics, and basic attitudes, were guiding factors, not something to be feared or ignored as we do now. When I enlisted in the U.S Navy in 1974, I swore (as does all government personnel) to uphold & defend the Constitution of the United States……not try to interpret it to serve my needs or to change it. I did this through the end of Viet Nam, until retiring in 2006 after Afghanistan with the oath in the back of my mind…to uphold and defend the Constitution, serving for EVERYBODY’s Freedoms. Our Constitution is not perfect, but it’s very close! Why not stop all the divisionism thoughts/words/greed & try to piece back together what it has always meant to be American preferably without all the politics! I’m afraid all the years Americans have put into serving this country will all be thrown away for what…..arguing about all the ridiculous, divisive, insignificant stuff and the real issues grow while waiting to be resolved. Sad days! The earth quakes we feel might not be from meteorologic reasons but from each & every deceased American patriot rolling over in their graves! Please think about it & help change the tone & direction of this great country.
    Respectfully submitted,
    LCDR Rich, Retired

  • Rich

    After reading each of these no doubt storongly opinionated statements I have to laugh to keep from crying. Obama or whoever is pulling the strings, have accomplished what they set out to do….divide this great country as in ” divide & concer(strange word & not sure I spelled it right but you know what I mean)! . We are fighting amongst ourselves instead of debating, discussing & solving our problems for the benefit of all. What have we become? History shows that issues like these eventually take down every great power/nation/civilization, so why repeat it? We are and have been the greatest Nation on earth because of our differences, because of the common good, but that’s pretty hard to find now. This country was founded on Christian principles…..that does not mean religion…that’s very different! The morals, ethics, and basic attitudes, were guiding factors, not something to be feared or ignored as we do now. When I enlisted in the U.S Navy in 1974, I swore (as does all government personnel) to uphold & defend the Constitution of the United States……not try to interpret it to serve my needs or to change it. I did this through the end of Viet Nam, until retiring in 2006 after Afghanistan with the oath in the back of my mind…to uphold and defend the Constitution, serving for EVERYBODY’s Freedoms. Our Constitution is not perfect, but it’s very close! Why not stop all the divisionism thoughts/words/greed & try to piece back together what it has always meant to be American preferably without all the politics! I’m afraid all the years Americans have put into serving this country will all be thrown away for what…..arguing about all the ridiculous, divisive, insignificant stuff and the real issues grow while waiting to be resolved. Sad days! The earth quakes we feel might not be from meteorologic reasons but from each & every deceased American patriot rolling over in their graves! Please think about it & help change the tone & direction of this great country.
    Respectfully submitted,
    LCDR Rich, Retired

  • vietnamvet1971

    Trust me is obuma’s favorite line, I showed my original True certificate on my white house website and it has been proven to be Real… well almost. So forget about that Executive Order 13489 to Seal/Hide my Past I am doing that for the good of the country. See I can tell the Truth.

  • Birillo

    JeffH, I completely concur with your statements of 30 Aug. Bravo. It musty be brought to light that the current POTUS is a fraud. With him having committed fraud so many times, this man should be serving time where the sun doesn’t shine. Fraud to enter Occidental, Colombia and Harvard, claiming to be an Indoneasian citizen to obtain scolarships and grants. The use of a Social Security number not belonging to him, stealing the identity of another person (criminal fraud). A selective service registration that has proven to be fraudulent. The posting of his birth certificate on the White House web site that has been proven without a doubt that it is false and he claiming apparently that it is his truthful birth certificate (fraud?).
    Yes, asking why the media does not pick up on this is a good question. I remember having read that the Rothshield family owns Reuters and entities that furnish information to the press, therefore, if any news agencies were to write the truth, they wouldn’t get any more news from these agencies.
    Why our Congress and the Senate have not taken steps to impeach this liar is beyond comprehension. The truth is so very clear and they act like school children afraid to say anything that might offend the teacher. Wake up children and start shaking up the establishment! We voted you folks into office TO PROTECT us from similar dishonest and illegal upsurpers who are choosing illegal means and dividing us so as to cripple us to the point of no return. A prime example is Eric Holder’s contempt of congress! Why hasn’t this man been arrested? Is there no official or part of our government that can issue a warrant for his arrest? Are we becoming a banana republic?

    • ehancock

      Obama never claimed to be a foreign student. Only birther sites claim that he claimed it.

      • Birillo

        Your ignorance is only surpassed by what you wrote. Get the facts and I’m not a birther.
        Check out what some of the students from Columbia have to say about this upsurfer who claimed to be an Indonesian student under the name of Barry Sorotoro to get grants and scolarships to attend Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. Nobody who attended Columbia knew or heard of Obama the years he claimed he attended. In 1981 he supposedly went to Pakistan and with what passport? Indonesian! He has apparently not even changed his Indonesian citizenship to U.S. citizenship. LET HIM PROVE IT. He can’t because he is not a U.S. citizen even though he has been living in the U.S. for many years. Why has he spend millions of dollars to hide his past. Because he is afraid of being caught. We have a lot of stupid people in Government and they are sitting on their hands while doing nothing. On the White house web site, Obama says that it is his birthcertificate and that certificate has been proven to be false (is this not fraud?). Wake up America, look for the truth and pray God someone has the courage to get this printed in the media so people know who is occupying the white house.

        • Gea

          It is irrelevant to me where Barak Hussein Obama was born, but what IS relevant that 2 ideologies he had embraced and promoted are Marxism and Islamism which should be both relegated to the dungheap of history, since they just cause countries to become disfuctional and opress their citizens.

          Barak Hussein Obama is as un-American as they come and has no business bringing those dysfunctional vile ideologies into the Oval Offce and particularly not a genocidal, supremacist misogynist Muslim Brotherhood, which he also helps financiallyi with US taxpayers dollars.

          It is going to be a landslide in November, because WE AMERICANS (no matter where we were born) will not stand for this UN-American to destroy not only America but endanger the entire Western Civlization. Democratic Party that had allowed those ideologies in under disguise of equality and justice will go down the drain with Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood.

      • Birillo

        EHancock, check out this site. http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-the-scandal-that-ends-the-obama-presidency-2/
        It may open your eyes that seem to be so blind.

      • ehancock

        I repeat, only birther sites have claimed that Obama applied to colleges as a foreign student. They have nothing to base that claim on.

        IF he had made that claim, it would have been a STUPID lie. One that he risked being found out in easily and losing his chance to get into college. Only 21 people came to the USA from Kenya in 1961. Moreover, it would have implied that his parents were rich enough to travel from Hawaii to Kenya, which they weren’t. Moreover, if Obama had claimed that he was born in Kenya in an application, there would have been a decent chance that the college would have asked him to PROVE it, and since he couldn’t prove it, he would have lost that chance to get into the college. So, to repeat, it would have been a stupid lie, and a highly unlikely one.

        In fact, it is just as likely that Obama claimed to have been a trolly car as that he claimed to be a foreign student.

        • txbadonetoo

          So.. please explaine to me why Obama has invested Millions of $$ to keep his school records closed. Grades? I doubt it. Why does Obama require such secrecy. It does beg a few questions.. easiest answer would to just post his records. But we all know that will not happen. The question is why??

      • ehancock

        Re: “In 1981 he supposedly went to Pakistan and with what passport? Indonesian! He has apparently not even changed his Indonesian citizenship to U.S. citizenship. LET HIM PROVE IT. He can’t because he is not a U.S. citizen even though he has been living in the U.S. for many years. Why has he spend millions of dollars to hide his past”

        Answers: He used a US passport.

        No, he did not have an Indonesian passport. How do we know. Well, it is possible to call up the Indonesian Embassy and ASK, and guess what, you can check me on it. And they say that he did not have an Indonesian passport.

        Oh, and he was not an Indonesian citizen either. He was never an Indonesian citizen.

        And he did not lose his US citizenship, so he did not have to change it back.

        Finally he did not spend millions of dollars or even cents hiding anything. There were only lawsuits against him to get him off of ballots. Obama ONLY spent money on staying on the ballots. And it wasn’t “millions” because it only costs a few hundred bucks to file the same legal papers that had been filed in earlier cases. Let me stress again, there were NO lawsuits against Obama for records or files or documents or anything other than to keep him off of ballots. Obama spent money fighting to stay on the ballots. That is all.

  • Birillo

    We need more people in government who have the balls of ISSA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/martha.weems.1 Martha Weems

    I would like to respond to Robert Smith’s comment that “McCain should be given credit
    for his military service and as a prisoner”, but he doesn’t see how “sitting around in a
    prison cell” should qualify him to be president. First of all, Robert, putting the presidency issue aside for a moment, I don’t believe that being a prisoner of war for years in which he was repeatedly tortured and beaten so severely that his arms no longer function properly today, can hardly be referred to as “sitting around”. It is amazing to me how cavalier some of us are about horrific and terrible things others have
    had to endure, while we have no personal basis for comparison. I personally was not
    enthusiastic about McCain for the presidency (altho I preferred him to Obama), but I certainly recognize the great price he paid in doing what he felt was his duty and admire
    him for it. Now, having said that, even so, McCain was significantly more qualified to be president than Obama as he had years of experience in the senate and Obama had
    significantly hardly any experience at all. We knew everything we needed to know about McCain the man and McCain the politician, but NOTHING at all about Obama, except what he “created” for us to know…,which was really nothing at all. And WHY
    would a person (whether he be president or no) spend over a million (taxpayers) dollars to hide his school records, among other things? Almost any job you apply for will want
    access to your school records…if they are in any way relevant. If you refused to submit them, you would lose any possibility of getting the job. How much more so is
    it important whom you choose to run your country? By not demanding that Obama do as every single other president has done, we set ourselves up for whatever was to follow…..and we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

    • Birillo

      check out what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

    • Birillo

      Martha Weems, check out what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept. OB may not even be an American Citizen. Check out the web site too.

  • chuckb

    birillo, it seems the congress fears the backlash in trying to impeach barry, the blacks would probably burn half the cities down in the country. they don’t care how illegal he may be, it’s the color of his skin that matters, the bolsheviks could care less.
    could you imagine anyone who isn’t black getting away with what barry has.
    if romney were preiodent under the same circumstances, i’ll guarantee he would have been impeached before the end of his first year.

    nobody knows whether he is actually legal or illegal, that’s the sad part of this, look at the other side, if he were honest and disclosed his information, this wouldn’t be a problem, unfortunately, it goes to show how arrogant he and the bolsheviks are.

    • AZ-Ike

      In previous times, I would have agreed with your comment that if it had been Romney refusing to provide documents for eligiblity, he would have been impeached. Now, however, it is clear that neither political party cares whether the President is constitutionally eligible or not. It is not so much that Obama is the first ‘black’ presidential usurper, it is that both parties want to be able to place their ‘candidate’ in office regardless if s/he is eligible.

      You state that nobody knows whether he (Obama) is legal or illegal, but the same applies to Mitt Romney’s own candidacy. Romney has offered no more proof of eligibility than Obama has, although with Romney, his nativity/early life is an open book compared to Obama’s. It is reasonably well known BECAUSE he was born in the U.S. and grew up in the U.S. and his associates were reasonably known–in the U.S. Obviously the same is NOT true of Obama. A birth certificate alone–for either candidate–cannot prove constitutional eligibility, although it can disprove eligibility. To prove eligibility, the candidate must provide his own BC and either the BCs or naturalization papers for both parents.

      However, Mitt’s father, George, was born in Mexico and whether his parents still had their U.S. citizenship while living there, George became a Mexican ctiizen by virtue of being born in Mexico. So George was either a dual citizen at birth (U.S./Mexican) or he was just a Mexican citizen at birth. No one has determined if the elder Romney’s (great grandfather, Miles, and grandfather, Gaskell) lost U..S. citizenship through some form of expatriation–either possible prosecution in the U.S. for poligamy, or through their years as ‘permanent residents’ of Mexico. But even if they remained U.S. citizens, George still had dual citizenship unless he renounced Mexican citizenship after his return to live in the U.S. That had to happen through his father’s naturalization upon returning to the U.S. with the very yound minor child, George, or it had to happen by George as an adult–and before Mitt was born–renounced his Mexican citizenship. If George never renounced it, then Mitt became an automatic dual citizen when he was born and–just like Obama– he is ineligible for the Presidency.

      • Birillo

        AZ-lke, look at what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept. OB may not even be an American Citizen.

    • Birillo

      ChuckB, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

  • Bev

    Well after reading through everyone’s thoughts on whether Obama is a US citizen I have to throw in my own two cents. Obama’s own lawyer admitted that his birth cert was fake.

    http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/

    Obama traveled to Pakistan when that country could not be visited by US Citizens. Obama’s records are sealed because he came to this country as a foreign exchange student. We still don’t know who paid for his expensive education, but I don’t think it was grandma Dunham. Hawaii allows people to post birth announcements in their newspapers with absolutely no proof required. So just because there was a birth announcement in no way either confirms or denies his actual birth in the state. No one in grandma Dunham’s neighborhood ever remembers a baby at that residence. Is it just me, or does anyone else think it is strange that every piece of paper that could add to the discourse has either been lost, or is missing in some way. I mean figure the odds. I noticed that the DOJ is dropping its case against Sheriff Joe – maybe there really is something to his investigation.

    And for those of you confused about citizenship – there is a difference between natural born and citizen. Natural born means both of your parents were US citizens. Lots of people are US citizens, but not everyone is natural born.

    • ehancock

      Obama’s lawyer did not admit it. A birther “reporter” claimed that she said it, but she never said it.

  • doug

    Which issue is more of a political threat to 0bama’s re-election chances?

    This birther story or the fact that POTUS won’t release his college records? . . . and why does he keep those records sealed up? . . could there be something in there that will ensure 0bama is a one-term president?

    • Mountain Saint

      Doug, at least one college (Occidental) has released Obama’s records and, yes, Obama was a foreign student receiving financial aid from the Fulbright Foundation. To qualify for this scholarship, Obama had to be a citizen of another country. He was an Indonesian and never naturalized in America.

      • AZ-Ike

        I have seen reports that are said to come from Occidental College. It is my understanding that the records did NOT come from Occidental, that someone put that information out without proof–because the records are STILL sealed.

      • ehancock

        It is correct that the information did not come from Occidental College. It was made up by birthers. However, the information is not “sealed.” It is simply private, protected under existing state and federal privacy laws. The same information was not released by Romney either, and it also is not “sealed.” It also is protected under state and federal privacy laws.

      • Birillo

        A person doesn’t necessarily have to go to Occidental to see how Obama got the scolarship. Go to Fulbright and ask them under what grounds did they grant Obama a scolarship.

    • Birillo

      Doug, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

  • gemmom

    I do not think Romney’s tax records should be so important to anyone. What in the world makes anyone think his tax records should be shown when Obama’s records are all still sealed. Why aren’t you calling for his sealed records of his past? Does it really matter about Romney’s taxes after he has already shown two years worth and can prove he is an American born Citizen? What a bunch of two-faced bigots. This is ridiculous. We should be looking at Obama’s records if that’s the case. What if Obama can’t show the American people the truth? What if he is a way worse liar and offender of all? He would make Romney look like a saint. I hope Obama will be long gone by the time his daughters find out he was not born an American Citizen, and especially when they find out he was gay. That will be a real slap in the face to his two girls. Is Romney a birther? I certainly hope he is, I know I am, and so should everybody else be. I know that all of Obama’s relatives have stated that he was born in Kenya, so it’s no secret. I googled http://www.WasObamaBornInKenya.com, and I believe this could really be his correct birth certificate. It has a baby foot print on it, so why don’t a few specialists from the best countries on earth determine whose baby foot print that is? Anyone can get a “Live Birth” birth certificate here in America. I didn’t have my babies in a hospital, and it really didn’t matter when I applied for a birth certificate for my children, and so my children have the exact same type of birth certificate. A doctor was not there to witness their births. The same type of birth certificate was issued for Barack Obama a few days after his mother brought him to Hawaii. She could have claimed he was born on one of the Islands, or anything really, and she would have been granted a birth certificate for him. Then Obama took two years to show his birth certificate, which was fishy, only he needed to have more than just a certificate stating he was born, he needed a certified – doctor signed document with a county seal on it that showed he was born in the United States in order to claim he could hold the title of “President of the United States.”. That document that he took two years to produce finally showed up, and now over 200 document specialists have declared that it is a forgery – a fake before a Supreme Court Judge. I can’t imagine a people that refuse to accept the truth just because they were so excited to have a so-called Black (1/4 Black; 3/4 Arab on one side and white on the other side) president. Do people want to know the truth or do they want to accept a lie just because they want to defend the man just because of his color or religion? You can always trust a Democrat to twist things around to suite their liking – to make things twist their way. Lawyers are good at doing that, and it looks like the Democrat controlled media are doing it too. Let’s face it, you will never get Romney on anything because he has always been a honest man who does not believe in taking anything that doesn’t belong to him. Most of his money was probably inheritance money, which the public needs to stay out of his past family business, because it’s none of their business. He shouldn’t have to be expected to show that. Why not ask for Obama’s tax records for the past ten years before he took office? Why not ask him for his school records and passports? Why are you content to accept a forgery for his birth certificate. Why are you content to accept all of the lies he tells you. You should be worrying about the corruption and modern-day-pirates that are already in our government before bashing a really nice person that will do this country more good than the past four presidents combined, and who will bless this nation with the rights and the freedom they deserve. Do not listen to the lies about Romney that Democrats will try to shovel into the minds of people. Learn to think for yourselves and do not rely on what these liars are telling you. You people have a choice, either vote for Obama – who is for oppression (more taxes, bank fees, and hidden fees), taking away your freedoms (internet, guns, health care, etc), and dictatorship (does not go through proper channels – makes his own calls); or, vote for Romney – who is for freedom and equality to all, well-being and health care to all – no matter the age – no death panels, and a better quality of life (bringing more jobs back home to America, stopping heavy taxes on small business, and correcting the problems on main street, wall street, and government). You would have to be insane to not want to vote for Romney.

    • Bev

      Actually Romney gave away his inheritance money. The money he has now is the money he has made on his own. I agree with everything you say about all the lies and deceit that the Obama camp will spew within the next few months. Obama has got to go. Another four years of this crap and there will be nothing left in this country that even remotely resembles the United States.

      • Birillo

        Bev, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

    • deerinwater

      “gemmom says:
      September 1, 2012 at 8:25 pm
      I do not think Romney’s tax records should be so important to anyone. What in the world makes anyone think his tax records should be shown when Obama’s records are all still sealed.”

      I would think that a person entrusted with the power and right to cast a “Vote” deciding who will be the next leader of the free world for the next 4 years with a possibility of 10 years would show a greater respect for the responsibility.

      The American people , have made one decision to elect Obama, your opportunity to ask such questions should be prior any decision.

      Obama is your President today, Mitt is the contender, making the time “Now” to ask question or simply accept what the contender offers.

      Bearing in mind Mitt and the President have both complied with minimum obligation to run for the Title. It’s not a requirement that ether of them offer more. Nor is it required that we give them our vote.

      • txbadonetoo

        DeerinWater.. There is no legal cause for Romney to release his tax records. Just because you (and the other Obama followers) and the liberal mass media ignore and never vetted Obama in 2008 please do not get all high and mighty now about Romney. If you can’t see that something is very wrong that Obama has spent about $1.8 Million to seal his personal records.. took 2.5 years to release a questionable birth certificate and told lies in his two books about himself.. Romney has no reason to release his taxes.. his policies matter more. And I’m sure Timmy (proven Turbo Tax Cheater) Geithner as head of the IRS has already fed Romneys tax return info to the Obama camp.

        When Obama unseals all of his personal info (passports, school records, social security etc…) then I’ll be receptive to those who claim Romney is not releasing important information.

        Until then.. I have no sympathy for your whining.

      • deerinwater

        “And I’m sure Timmy (proven Turbo Tax Cheater) Geithner as head of the IRS has already fed Romneys tax return info to the Obama camp.”

        Are you ~ sure? So could you not apply this same degree of “sure” equally or is your certainly selective?

        44, have already cleared the bar and got the job, ~ obviously your vote is not in contention for 44.

        You are left with only two choices, hold your nose and cast a Romney vote or vote your conviction with a “write in vote” ~ Pistol Pete, Daffy Duck, etc.

        I only have a single choice, so is someways, you have more latitude then I, while I’ve not completely ruled out Ron Paul as a write -in. All that would take is for Obama to send me bad message.

        • txbadonetoo

          I will vote for a can of dog food vs. a vote for Obama. A can of dog food won’t ‘Fundamentally Transform America’ and drive our country futher into decline. Plus my dog likes canned food.

          • Gea

            Obama care is just a complicated system that helps mostly large pharma/hospital/insurance industry and costs more than any other county system. Currently our “health care” system costs 2-3 times that of France and Germany with results behind Cuba, which pays 100 times less/per person. We need a single payer system where we eliminate intermediaries and emphasise prevantion of diseases rather then pusing drugs on people that oftem make people sicker.

            Obamacare will be probably overturned by Republican controlled Congress which will ensue when there is a landslide election in November, and Obama takes democratic party down the drain with him and his Muslim Brotherhood.

      • ehancock

        Obama has shown ten years of tax records. George Bush showed eight years of tax records. George Romney, Mitt’s father, showed ten years of tax records. Mitt says that he intends to show only two years of tax records.

        Obama was born in Hawaii as his birth certificate, and the confirmation of the officials of both parties in Hawaii and the Index Data and the birth notices sent to the newspapers by the DOH of Hawaii in 1961 all show.

    • Birillo

      Gemmom, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

  • Mountain Saint

    Bev, the Romney family were third generation Mexican citizens when they fled to the neighboring country of United States during the Mexican Revolution. They were paid by the Mexican government for their loss and this was the money they parlayed into a fortune in the states…My grandfather lost two million dollars in a gold mine but he didn’t receive one penny in compensation.. Why? Unlike the Romneys, he was an American citizen.

    • txbadonetoo

      Mountain.. Help me out here.. I thought Grandpa Romney was born in America – I understand that George was born in Mexico but he was born to two USA citizens. So how are they “3rd generation Mexican people”? And if George Romney got so rich when leaving Mexico then why did he struggle for years and years before he got into politics and AMC? I honestly would appreciate some insight as to what I’m missing here.. Thanks.

    • Birillo

      Mountain Saint, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

      • txbadonetoo

        Brillo.. please grow up and stop these multi-sends. This now byond obnoxious.

  • Deerinwater

    Mitt a birther? LOL!

    Mitt is whatever he needs to be to “win” the moment.

    • txbadonetoo

      Cut Mitt and paste it with Obama.. then you’d be accurate. Talk about a Panerer In Chief.. I was against gay marriage before I was for it, I was against the individual mandate (when I was attacking Hillary) before I was for it. I promised a comprehensive immigration reform in my first year before I forgot about the hispanics until 4 months before the election.. Obama is that empty chair which Clint was talking to..

      • deerinwater

        I hear the empty chair routine didn’t go over too well over Television while “live” it fared much better.

        “I promised a comprehensive immigration reform in my first year before I forgot about the hispanics until 4 months before the election.. Obama is that empty chair which Clint was talking to..”

        Well, that is not exactly so, While the first year was dominated by stiff opposition to HCR, Immigration was also being addressed, with more funding, more officers, record break number of deportation.

        As Gov. Jane Brewer and sheriff Joe attempted to abridge the Bill of Right in regards to “probable cause” , “search and seizure” , opening a wide the window for “profiling” ,44 defended the bill of right afford all citizens including Mexican decent.

        As for the two other examples that you offer us. I really can not offer you much in the way of argument or defense.

        While a citizen sexual origination is no grounds to restrict a citizens bill of right, yesterday, today or tomorrow. Not when one law must serve and apply to all equally.

        ” Individual mandates”?????? to and for what?

        • txbadonetoo

          Deerinwater.. Obama had the White House, the House and the Senate for two years in 2009 and 2010. Do you have any excuse for him not living up to his promise for comprehensive immigration reform during his first year (2009) when the House and the Senate could have passed any bill Obama submitted? Stop making excuses for this guy Ried and Democrats didn’t support the ‘Dream Act’ or it could have been passed but Obama isn’t a leader who can get things done. He owned the White House and Congress.

          Obama’s illegal alien (yes I call them that if they come into the country illegally) deportation rate is about 15% higher than Bush’s last 4 years. And that includes programs and staffing which Bush put into place before Obama came into office. And there is NO excuse for Obama’s order to Napolitano to ignore an entire class of illegal aliens – that is not covered by ‘selective prosecution’.

          As for Jan (not Jane) Brewer – she signed a bill which was consistent with Federal law.. and what did the Obama Admin do when the Supreme Court ruled? They had Napolitano pull back ALL rights for AZ law enforcement to do anything regarding illegal immigration. No wonder ICE employees are suing the Obama Administration.

          And as to civil rights – police have the right to ask for ID for anyone pulled over or stopped on a sidewalk if the police have probable cause. I’m not sure how civil rights enter into this discussion. I’ve had a few traffic tickets and if I didn’t have ID I’d be in deep chit. I can’t fly on a plane, enter a Federal building, buy booze or cigarrettes or……. w/o an ID. What is wrong with asking for a valid state ID if the police have stopped someone for probable cause. They ask me and I’m white and fair skinned. Should I think they are predjudiced against fair skinned people?

          Finally – If I have to explain what ‘Individual Mandate’ is to you after the recent Supreme Court ruling on ObamaCare then I think you need to go read some more..

      • Deerinwater

        ” Do you have any excuse for him not living up to his promise for comprehensive immigration reform during his first year (2009) when the House and the Senate could have passed any bill Obama submitted? ”

        Well, no excuse necessary Sir. ~ and I really have no plans of wasting an excellent Sunday morning in such a “debate”, leaving to only say, ~ a nose ring installation is not a requirement for democrats. The history is there and you can apply any spin you wish on it to justify your beliefs.

        Have a great Sunday Morning.

        out.

        • txbadonetoo

          You too Deerinwater – have a great holiday weekend.

    • Birillo

      Deerinwater, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

  • Sam Adams

    I don,t think Obama knows who his father is? Could be anyone. As far as Constitution does, our country doesn,t use it anymore. Just look at the flag all govts fly, the 4 colored strips and stars, its the admilarty flag, foreign military flag. Our Constitution has been suspended in 1913 federal reserve act and lincoln and the new deal. Once a nation loses its flag it lost its idenity and freedom. Just look in a court room one day.

    • Birillo

      Sam Adams, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

  • http://eingriff.wordpress.com eingriff

    Both Obama and Romney were natural born citizens at birth.
    Obama’s status is easier to prove.
    Absent a congressional investigation, Soros-financed stooges are liable to knock Romney off the ballot in jurisdictions with Soros-suborned chief election officials.
    Thus Romney is likely to lose, even though Obama is the one who is constitutionally ineligible. He voluntarily relinquished his American citizenship as a naturalized citizen of Indonesia by refusing to register with Selective Service in 1979 and entering the States on an Indonesian passport with American student visa stamped therein by the American Embassy in Jakarta in 1981.
    This is another fine mess the RINOs have got us into, by refusing to conduct an exhaustive investigation of Obama more than two years ago, after the People gave them the power to do so..

    • txbadonetoo

      Eingriff – I’m confused as to how Soros backed agents could disqualify Romney without doing the same to Obama. Obama’s father was clearly a citizen of Kenya and his mother was American. Romney’s father was born in Mexico (to two US citizens I believe) and his father moved back to America and retained his citizenship. Clearly Romney’s mother was a US citizen. Romney has a much better leg to stand on vs. Obama regarding being a natural born US citizen.

      • http://eingriff.wordpress.com eingriff

        txbadonetoo, thanks for your reply.
        I believe that George Romney was a U.S. citizen, but the Romney campaign does not seem prepared to prove it. I can easily envision Soros-suborned chief election officials knocking Romney off the ballot on specious and frivolous grounds that RINOs are not prepared to rebut, and could not rebut given the corruption of the Obama campaign in making ballot challenges through Soros-financed stooge candidates for President. RINOs seem to be relying on a tacit or express agreement, on the erroneous assumption that eligibility as a natural born citizen is determined exclusively at birth, and they will not challenge Obama if Obama does not challenge Romney. They are begging to be double-crossed through surrogate stooges. While the status of a natural born citizen can be ACQUIRED only at birth, it can be LOST by loss of American citizenship. Obama voluntarily relinquished his American citizenship by becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen as a minor and by actions and omissions as an adult that confirmed his voluntary, mature intent to relinquish his American citizenship,
        You are under a misapprehension regarding Obama’s father. Barack Hussein Obama the alien Luo tribesman was not Obama’s father. Dr. Fukino’s press release of 27 July 2009, finding from Obama’s “vital records” that he was a natural born American citizen, excludes Obama the Luo a his birth father, because the Luo Barack Hussein Obama was an alien. Hence it comes as no surprise that comparison of Obama’s Y-DNA with that of close male relatives of Obama the alien Luo confirms beyond reasonable scientific doubt that it’s biologically impossible for Obama to be the son of Barack Hussein Obama.
        Probably Obama’s father was Stanley Armour Dunham, who wanted the son his wife could not give him. Obama’s mother must have been a woman of color, probably a native Hawai’ian wahine. Obama’s parents, per Dr. Fukino, whom there is no good reason to doubt, must have been American citizens. Obama refuses to release his original birth certificate because he wants to maintain the false pretense of a black father, for meretricious political purposes and to preclude official investigation. His pretense of being half-black protects him against official investigation, which would promptly prove by valid documentation and scientific proof that he is neither black nor an American citizen.
        Trouble is, American officials won’t conduct official investigation by subpoenae and search warrants, because they erroneously assume Obama’s father was black. Hence Obama can prove to the chief election official of each state that he was born to two U.S. citizens (trying to keep their race secret), while the RINOs are not prepared to prove up his actual loss of American citizenship, which us what renders him constitutionally ineligible.
        So, I regret to say, the birthers, RINOs and others have put Obama in a position to bar Romney from ballots while defending his own position. How can people be so stupid? Far be it from me to say. On 16 August 2012 I begged and beseeched the Honorable Lamar S. Smith, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, to lead the Committee to an investigation of Obama’s identity, true racial heritage, citizenship (hence eligibility) and actual allegiance. Chairman Smith has not responded; I invite others to chime in.
        I continue to explore other ways to get the truth. People, might be surprised. But don’t assume that “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance” is other than fiction. Well-written fiction, by Bill Ayres, not Obama, but fiction nonetheless.

        • Bev

          I, too, wrote to Rep Lamar Smith requesting the same action. Still no word and there will never be any word. Why I don’t know. Do they feel suckered or what?

          • George E

            It appears that the term “naturalization” was not clearly defined in the US Constitution, but the intent of making it a requirement for US Presidents was. The framers were trying to exclude persons who might be overly influenced by foreign powers. In the case of Obama, it is possible he was not born in the US, but that alone might not disqualify him, if decided in a court of law, for not being a naturalized citizen since the definition is not clear. It is also possible the court might determine he is, or has been, unduly influenced in his decision making as President by one or more foreign powers, but that is also a very long shot. Also, a court might say he voluntarily relinquished his US citizenship when he was a child growing up in Indonesia and going to school in the US as a foreign exchange student. However, from a political standpoint pursuing these charges through the courts or through highly publicized Congressional hearings would be very risky for Republicans. That is, the courts would likely take months or years to decide this case, and there is no assurance that the final decision would be one that would disqualify Obama from being our President anyway. On the other hand, it is very likely, given past experience in the Clinton impeachment case, that Democrats would be successful in convincing the American public that Republicans were simply pursuing a partisan political witch hunt, which would likely be viewed negatively by the American public and assure that Obama got re-elected anyway. If the real objective is to remove Obama from office, I believe Republicans have decided the best route to that result is to simply stay focused on the economy and federal debt, and convince Americans that Obama has done nothing to improve these problems, indeed made them worse, and likely will do nothing to improve these problems if re-elected. Romney, on the other hand, is highly qualified to address these problems given his background.

      • Birillo

        txbadonetoo, look what Birillo wrote on 5 Sept.

    • Birillo

      Eingriff, look what Birillo wrtoe on 5 Sept.

    • Birillo

      Dear Eingriff, read my last post. Thanks.

  • Birillo

    Open your eyes fellow Citizens of the USA. Look at this web site. http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-the-scandal-that-ends-the-obama-presidency-2/

  • AZ-Ike

    Birillo says,
    You are a pox on the comment stream. If you don’t understand how the ‘notify’ system works, try educating yourself. If one signs up for notification, that person received EVERY comment sent–not just the ones in response to your own comment. 13 comments from you saying the same thing–nothing–is too much. Stop clogging up everyone’s mailbox.

  • Birillo

    AZ-lke says: Well, you can see that advetising pays. For sure most everyone now has read the comment. Lets stand up together and get this POTUS out of office. Vote, vote!!

    • txbadonetoo

      I’m moving to Chicaco – and voting often and with many names.. Voting for Romney.

      • Birillo

        Bravo! I’m with you all the way. Vote, vote, vote, vote, Romney, again and again.

  • Karen King

    Everybody is questioning Romney’s tax returns?!? What about Obummer’s birth certificate, or his “social security” number? He thinks that gay marriage is okay? He needs to read the Bible! As for me and my house we’re voting Obummer OUT! Believe in America vote Romney/Ryan.

    • txbadonetoo

      GO Karen!! Take your dog and/or your cat too to vote on 11/6. Obama will have 1000′s of dead people voting for him so having your pets vote is ok with me.. fair is fair.

      I long for the day when I see Michelle checking her own bags thru the counter at O’Hare airport vs. her being driven by Secret Service for her next shoe shopping trip to Spain with 30 friends.. Justice.

  • Bev

    Here’s something to think about – what if his real father is Frank Marshal Davis? That would definitely make him legitimate. It still makes me wonder what he’s hiding. What’s all the intrigue?

    • AZ-Ike

      How many would have voted for him if they knew his father was communist activist Frank Marshall Davis?

      If true, does he still get a pass after posting and affirming that a forged document is his true birth certificate?

      Why is he using a stolen social security number?

  • Birillo

    a long read so if you don’t have time now, come back to it later. (Though I couldn’t stop reading it until I finished it)

    A MUST READ BY ALL TRUE AMERICANS!!!

    Steve Kroft (born August 22, 1945) is an American journalist and a longtime correspondent for “60 Minutes”. His investigative reporting has garnered him much acclaim, including three Peabody Awards and nine Emmy awards, one of which was an Emmy for Lifetime Achievement
    You can understand what is happening to our America after reading this.
    May God have mercy upon our nation.
    *******************************************************************************************

    One Evil Human

    FROM STEVE KROFT (“60 Minutes”)

    Glen Beck has been developing material to show all the ties that Soros has through the nation and world along with his goals. This article is written by Steve Kroft from “60 Minutes”. It begins to piece together the rise of Obama and his behavior in leading the nation along with many members of Congress (in particular the Democrats, such as the election of Pelosi as the minority leader in Congress).

    If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is “selective” in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there and is responsible. He controls President Obama’s every move. Think this is absurd? Invest a few minutes and read this. You won’t regret it.

    Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man or demon that pulls his strings. It’s not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. I don’t think he knows how to tie his shoe laces. After reading this and Obama’s reluctance to accept help on the oil spill you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US ? “In history, nothing happens by accident. If it happened, you can bet someone planned it.”/ Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS’ Mr. Steve Kroft’s research has turned up. It’s a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. “The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States . “George Soros”

    George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and anti-good.” He killed and robbed his own Jewish people. What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience. He considers himself to be an elitist World class philosopher, despises the American way, and just loves to do social engineering and change cultures.

    György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 inHungary . Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of the Esperanto language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity. The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the Gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s.

    When Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary , to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews, George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population. Soros went with him on his rounds.

    Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.” 70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year, yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect” During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “best year.”

    KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

    KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from your fellow Jews, friends and neighbors. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

    KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many, years. Was it difficult?

    SOROS: No, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.

    KROFT: No feelings of guilt?

    SOROS: No, only feelings of absolute power.

    In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having carried some rather “potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.” Be that as it may. After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors. Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994. Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society,” and Fallibilism.

    Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken. (Then again, I could be wrong about that.) The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering. Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.”

    In 1956 Soros moved to New York City , where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune. He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation. Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune. By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

    In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England . He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically, almost overnight.”

    In 1994 Soros crowed in “The New Republic ,” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.” The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history. “The “Soros Empire” indeed. In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia . At the time, Malaysia ‘s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohammad, called Soros “a = villain, and a moron.” Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.”

    The website Greek National Pride reports, “Soros was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia , Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma] Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

    France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading. Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.” Elizabeth Crum writes that the Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized. Soros deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary ‘s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.

    My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite. His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach. But what about America ? Soros told Australia ‘s national newspaper “The Australian.” ” America , as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world. This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits. He implied that he was the one with the power to bring this about.”

    Soros: “World financial crisis was “stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

    Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil , in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields. Obama’s largesse towards Brazil came shortly after his political financial backer, George Soros, invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).

    Tait Trussel writes, “The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil , but it is a bad deal for the U. S. The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U S could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security and independence.”

    A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch. com. Their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same: the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day be made to stop preying upon the world’s poor, that justice will be served.”

    Back to America . Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous.” In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change or more accurately deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements.”

    Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years. The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration.

    Discover The Networks. org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia , Croatia , Georgia , and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”

    November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. “I think we need a large stimulus package.” Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right. Soros also said that “I think Obama presents us a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U. S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

    Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

    Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars. According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head and ex-President George Bush, Sr.

    In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds. When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time. In 2008, Soros donated $5,000,000,000 ( that’s Five Billion ) to the Democratic National Committee, DNC, to insure Obama’s win and wins for many other Alinsky trained Radical Rules Anti-American Socialist. George has been contributing a $ billion plus to the DNC since Clinton came on the scene.

    Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me. And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA. And I mustn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the MSM (Main Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e. g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to. In short, George Soros controls or influences most of the MSM. Little wonder they ignore the TEA PARTY, Soro’s NEMESIS.

    As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

    Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues underminingAmerica ‘s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments in social engineering.”

    Some of the many NGOs (Non-Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn. org, the Apollo Alliance , Media Matters for America , the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America ), La Raza, and many more. For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks. org.

    Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”

    Without Soros’ money, would the Saul Alinsky’s Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?

    America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros. Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America and his puppet, Barack Obama is leading the way.

    The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”
    ————–
    Above information researched by CBS Steve Kroft

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from thosewho are willing to work and give to thosewho would not.”Thomas Jefferson

    • Gea

      I would say PROTECT my liberty and human riights and retire Barak Hussein Obama who is danhgerous to both! He lets his Muslilm Brothers into the Whitehouse and helped Islamists come to power in the Arab world. The long range goal of Muslim Brotherhood is to infiltrate US and destroy Western civilzation from within. If Obama allowed US marines to carry live munitions, US ambassadoer in Libtya. would be alive. Islam is incompatible with US Constitution and Obama is violating Constitution by letting the supremacist ideology of hate and mysogyny into the Whitehouse. He should be tried for betraying American diplomats and American values, if not in the Crout of Law, certainly in a Court of pulbikc oppinion.

      The fact that he still leads in the polls, is indication of the failure of US educational system, since people are unable to think critically and see through tolll stories or Barak Hussein Obama.

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