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Is It Time To Say, “To Hell with Islam?”

September 22, 2010 by  

Is It Time To Say, “To Hell with Islam?”

Part one of a two-part series

If you are like me, you are sick and tired of being frightened over Muslim sentiments. I say it’s high time to understand that regardless of what we do or say, we Christians have a target on our back. It’s time to face the cold truth: For countless believers of the Quran, we ARE the enemy. The sooner we understand this, the better.

It is time to say: To hell with Islam. We’re not going to take it anymore!

As I write to you, Muslims are still vowing to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Pastor Terry Jones backed down from burning the Quran on the anniversary of the Twin Towers tragedy. While I believe that anybody that burns books is an idiot, I find it objectionable that Jones abandoned his convictions because of pressure from the President Barack Obama White House. Unlike President George W. Bush who clearly laid out the battle lines — “you’re either with us, or against us” — Obama is obsessed over what Muslims “might do” if we offend them.

President Obama — The Eager Appeaser
Call it politics, background or birthright; Obama is intent on appeasing the Muslims of the world. In fact Obama has traveled so far out of his way to avoid confronting Muslims that it’s hard to believe he is still on planet earth.

Obama is not alone in apologizing to Muslims. In 2008, England’s Archbishop of Canterbury gave an interview to the BBC. He said that the introduction of Islam in the United Kingdom — prayers from which are broadcast three times daily over loudspeakers in Oxford — is “inevitable.”

Even comedians are afraid to ruffle Muslim feathers. One of England’s top funny men, Rory Bremner, said he’s afraid to write jokes about Islam because he fears death threats.

On a David Frost television program this past summer, Bremner said, “The greatest danger now is that one of the toughest issues of our time is religion. I’m writing a line and I think, ‘If this goes down badly, I’m writing my own death warrant there.’ Because there are people who will say, ‘Not only do I not think that’s funny but I’m going to kill you’ — and that’s chilling.”

Seth MacFarlane, the creator of the TV show Family Guy — which routinely makes fun of Christ — was on Larry King Live a couple of months ago and also admitted that he, too, worries about poking fun at Islam.

The truth is we are a millennia and a half beyond offending Islam. They have been offended for more than 1,000 years and I have news: They will stay that way.

This is what Tricia Erickson had to say on the subject in a Sept. 11 News Blaze, op-ed:

“For the sake of the REALITY of who we are indeed at war with and why, let me quote some scriptures from the Koran that may be recited in the new Mosque to be built at ground zero:

  • "Martyrdom is therefore the ONLY way for a Muslim to obtain forgiveness of sins" Surat Al Tawbah 9:111.
  • "Jihad (fighting for Allah’s cause) is ordained for you" Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216.
  • "Kill the Mushrikun (non-Muslims); wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush" Surat Al-Taubah 9:5.
  • "They (non-Muslims) shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land" Surat Al Maidah 5:33.
  • "And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass" Surat Al Taubah 9:111.

Erickson points out that the Quran is filled with proclamations calling for the killing and maiming of “Christians, Jews and overall non-believers”.

In Allah’s Own Image
I don’t know how things are in your neck of the woods, but up here in Calgary, Canada the majority of Muslims do not immigrate and assimilate. They congregate.

In fact, Calgary is home to the largest Muslim temple in North America, the colossal 48,000-square-foot Baitun Nur mosque. The Mayor of Calgary, Dave Bronconnier, said when the complex was completed: “On laying the foundation stone of this magnificent mosque, Canadian values are flourishing in the City of Calgary."

Frankly, I just don’t see it. Maybe three decades ago it was that way with the Muslim immigrants I shared classes with at the University of Calgary. But today you can hardly travel a few blocks and not see a Muslim woman wearing the traditional burqa. In fact Canada’s Muslim population has doubled since 9/11.

Keep in mind I am not suggesting for a moment that Calgary’s Muslim population is bent on the destruction of Western Civilization, or even misfeasance. What I am saying is that the overwhelming evidence in Calgary and in Canada indicates that the vast majority of Muslims are clinging to their traditional culture and ethos. As their numbers grow, these things will lead to a nation far different from the one my parents and I were born into.

Before I get a bunch of hate comments accusing me of racism, consider this: I have close personal and decade-long relationships with two people of the Muslim faith; both of whom have been ostracized by their communities because they practice a Western lifestyle. And if you are a blue-blooded Liberal keep this in mind: Under the Sharia or the law of Allah, “Women are considered inferior to men, and have fewer rights and responsibilities.” There goes women’s liberation.

The Muslims Are Coming, The Muslims Are Coming

If you think that the growth of Islam is unique to Canada, think again. According to the book: America Alone: The End of the World as we Know It, the author Mark Steyn argues that the West’s steady decline relative to Islam has much to do with Muslim insistence on keeping their culture as well as their high fertility rates.

For example, the U.S. has a fertility rate of a little more than two births per woman. Europe falls far below this level. Germany checks in at 1.3 births per woman, with Russia and Italy at 1.2 and Spain a little more than one birth per woman.

Steyn contrasts this with the fertility rate in Muslim countries like Afghanistan, 6.69 births per woman, Mali 7.42 and Somalia 6.76 births per woman. Steyn points out that Muslims living in Europe do not assimilate and, because of their population boom, they will instead take over Europe and be the dominant cultural force in 40 years.

According to Steyn, Islam is a far greater threat than global warming, China or any other man-made or natural disaster imaginable.

Certainly this is not how Obama and likeminded Liberals in and out of the Federal government see things. They continue to try and win over hearts and minds of Muslims; to convert them to Western Democratic thinking. It is a losing strategy, and one for which we will pay a very dear price.

Yours for wealth and health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

P.S. — Look for part-two, Allah, Oil & Our Future on Oct. 6. It will examine one reason why Obama feels the need to placate Muslims, plus how America can change its future by weaning off Arab oil while exploiting our own rich reserves of coal and natural gas. The Greens won’t like it but I am way past worrying about their feelings.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • dan az

    This would be considered an invasion of another country that wishes to take over our country.What more needs to be said?when we get this radical muslim out of office problem solved.This is why I say close the borders and send them packing with there bro!There religion if you want to call it that says kill all non believers what part of that is a religion? So if our government excepts that belief then I say that we start our own religion that says that if you cant follow our ways then we have the right to change your way of thinking!I have talked with people from the netherlands and they where over taken by the muslims and wiped out there welfare systems and gained control of there government.there system was a socialist system that couldnt stand the burden so they left along with alot of others.The only thing that would scare me is that happening to our system not by the threats of some camel jockey.action not words makes us stronger!

    • Peter

      I’m stunned! This is the first post EVER that I have agreed with John Myers on! Glory be!

      • FreedomFighter

        They the invasion force sets up in well defined stronghold pockets, maintains strict obedience, then recruits against America and American.

        I call it a political invasion, as in any invasion, you either repel the invaders or be overwhemed by those with intent to turn you or kill you.

        By intent, by action, they are enemies of the United States Of America.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Doc Sarvis

          Fear and loathing with no basis. This is how some in our country want you to be scardy-cats. Proud Americans will stand up for the founding principals of our country one of which is the freedom of religion.

          • Wayne Salhany

            I can’t believe you are really a doctor. Are you blind and deaf? To make an unqualified and blanket assertion that people have no basis for their fears and concerns is more than simply wrong. It is evil. Why evil? Because it extends to the point of exageration, mocking and scorn. Your’s is not a call to consideration. It is an appeal to emotion and demagogery. Your appeal to American values is shallow and unworthy.

          • FreedomFighter

            Investigate.

            Look at what is happening in other western nations as the Muslim populatons increase or look at Muslim countries. The Muslims become violent, Intolerant, then usually start killing people.

            Its not pretty.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

            Memo to Doc Sarvis:
            Anyone who thinks fear & loathing of Islam has no basis, I would suspect doesn’t pay much attention to the news of the day, or has a very bad memory. BTW Denial is not a river in Egypt.
            When one looks around the world @ what Islam is doing for our planet, it is not unreasonable to have the kind of concern you would attribute to “scardy-cats”, considering the carnage & backwardness that follows in the wake of this so-called religion of peace.
            Patriotic Americans don’t need lectures on founding principles & freedom of religion; they understand that our founders would have condemned the behavior of the rude, crude, insensitive Ground Zero Cordoba victory mosque Imam & they would not PANDER to a religion that runs as contrary to the founding principles of which you speak, as Islam.

          • http://comcast danl

            Doc Sarvis says “Proud Americans will stand up for the founding principals of our country one of which is the freedom of religion.” That is bull. Islam is NOT a religion. It is a militant political organization and it is waging war on ALL non-muslim. A first step should be to deny tax exemption status.

          • Dogma-Free

            Amen, Doc…Amen.

            I can’t believe the fearmongering I see here…oh, wait, no…that’s a lie. I really can believe it, especially after having seen 8 years of it with the Bush administration, and then seeing it here…and on FAUX ‘news’.

            It’s a manipulation tactic that is so effective on the weak-minded masses…I think Goebels used the same tactics in Nazi Germany, back in the 30′s and 40′s. Luckily, most Americans are too young to remember such things, and don’t read enough to learn about them. It’s so much easier to control the masses, when they’re ignorant of history, and poorly educated.

          • Kimberly Peters

            This is not hate mongering, fear, stupidity or anything else for that matter. Suicide bombers and fear of muslims has begun in Europe and will transition here. You cannot deny the fact that many leaders in muslim countries state that islam will prevail and rule the world.

            Also, islam is not just a religion. It’s military, political and religion combined. It does not theoretically work with our democratic beliefs or system. This is how they manage to covertly change our system and way of life.

            You will all sing a different tune when suicide bombers who learn jihad and are motivated by the imam of the local mosque starts putting pipe bombs in your backyard and schools. That’s what this sick cult does. They go after the innocent children along with the adults.

          • Wildcat from Dallastown, PA

            Other than having an absolute misperception of the threat of extremist Islam (which they ALL are, either overtly or covertly), you need to re-read what was happening prior to and as the pilgrams left England relative to religion. I think you will find that the king of England broke away from the Catholic church and the Pope (something to do with marriage and divorce perhaps) and created the Church of England. One of the reasons for the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States was to prevent the federal government from creating their own “religion” ergo their own “Church” such as the “Church of America”. While our founding fathers knew about Islam, that did not become even an international issue until then President Thomas Jefferson sent the U.S. Marines to teh Barbary Coast (no spell check avail) to stop the “Islamic Pirates” along that coast. Since the preponderance of our founding fathers were strong practicing Christians who based their thought process on the Christian Bible first and their personal life’s experience in England second. I suggest you read the books by former Muslim authors that converted to Christianity to include Mehmet Canor, Nonie Darwish and others to obtain a more comprehensive understanding of Islam. Then review what has been going on in Europe, especially, Switzerland, Germany, France and the Netherlands as well as England. Search for political cases and speeches by elected officials as well as articles from periodicals in those countries such as Der Speigel. They are all wrestling with immigration without cultural assimilation. Their global battle plan from long ago has been resurected and altered to accomplish the same result without conducting major combat operations against organized military forces of established nations. Read-Learn & Improve your understanding before sticking your foot in your mouth repeatedly!

          • Jana

            Wildcat from Dallastown,
            You speak the truth. King James commissioned the Bible to be translated into English too, ergo we have the King James Bible today. Of course a lot of the old English style of language was used originally.

      • http://non James

        Mr. Myers is promoting Christian Jihad. What he says in cloked racism.
        And Christianity never murdered non-believers, yea right, HaHaHa. Keep you Christian values to your selves. I don’t not want them, and I don’t want them infecting our government. You are basically advocating violence towards all Islam.What makes a holy site, holy- Centuries of Violence The Jews, Christians, and Muslims fight each other about which one has the true God. This God was adopted from Egyptians, and called Amon Ra, the one God. Hum, very interesting. And Yahwei has a very emotional personality.

        And I just heard about a planet in our Galacy that travels 4,000 miles per hour in space. Fit that into your Judeo/Christian/Islamic values.

        • Abe

          I guess you forget that there are a couple of planets spinning in the opposite direction and that the sun has most of the mass in the solar system but has less than 2% of the angular momentum. Mercury has a magnetic field when its not supposed to and venus has no magnetic field when it is supposed to – uranus and neptune should not have formed because of gravitational force is supposedly too less. There is so much that doesnt fit into the so called scientific theories on how the solar system came about – go fit that into your so called evolution theory.

          If a planet in our Galacy travels 4,000 miles per hour in space – it is because GOD made it that way.

          • LAWMAN

            Abe,come on your smarter then that,Santa was real also until i was 8 years old,grow up.IF there was a god,he kill all the religious freaks for exploiting his so called words of peace.All religious groups are are joke.

          • Toasted Oats

            So if you had some credentials in astrophysics, you would have layed it out in laymen’s terms how these oddities in planetary motion that you mentioned somehow prove that astrophysics has been wrong and that the earth is only about 6K years old. Astrophysicist with the exeception of Stephen Hawkin usually stay away from such pointless arguments about who’s god is whose and who created the universe. Everyone can have there own idea about what happened before there was any evindence of anything and who/what created it all. But for you to dismiss all the acedemic work and sacrifices over the past 500+ years without anything to show for it suggest you may have something against the acemdemic world and have a right wingnut job agenda. Are you wearing your tin foil hat properly?

        • James

          For the record, I am not the “James” that wrote this. I’m the legal brief guy, concerning rights.

        • The Mole

          Well James,
          Your friends must call you “BOY WONDER” because I wonder were you get your info from? It is apparent you have not read the Quran, or have seen what the muslim religion has done to every country without a back bone, including the once great England. As an American, I often wonder why the sissy liberals in our country think everyone has to get along or like everyone? Do we the people not have the right to “Not” like someone or their religion, especially of what their religion stands for? Its quite apparent also that it is only the Christian religion that has no religious rights in America now!I’m an Unapoligetic American and if you don’t like that I don’t really give a S@#t. You just continue to watch the self wetting Kieth Oberman, the butch, and all the other brain dead wannabe news folks and I’m sure you’ll be known as boy wonder for a long time to come.

        • A45678

          Promoting Christian jihad? “And Christianity never murdered non-believers, yea right, HaHaHa” When you open up a bible and show me the page where it says that killing is alright, then maybe a thinking man would listen to you. As it is, the bible specifically says quite the opposite. You cannot blame religious extremism and warping of ideals on the religion, however, Islam is quite specific in that it says killing is alright if you aren’t killing a Muslim. How about you move to Iran, and tell me from experience how it’s just the same as traditionally Christian states. Your blind liberalism sickens me.

      • Ron

        What the hell is wrong with you people? Islam itself is just another religion. Good and bad by what the people make of it. Islam didn’t attack us on 911, right-wing radical fundamentalist islamists, demented by their out of control faith attacked the US. Those people are no better than the right-wing radical fundamentalist Christians or right-wing fundamentalist Jews. Anyone who takes a literal interpretation of the ancient texts can in their out of control faith can easily look for and find the portion of the ancient texts that fit their extremism. The Bible is just as capable of feeding extremists as is the Quran.
        Open your minds to reality!!

        • Jana

          Its odd how when someone tries to tell others to “open their minds to reality” are the very ones who are bigoted and close minded themselves.

        • The Mole

          Ron,
          The only thing I can see wrong with us is the fact that we’re not brain dead like you! Now stop smoking that crap, learn to read and open your eyes to the real world. I suppose you voted for the changing of your diapers too!

    • MSGT JOHN CORREA – USAF (RET)

      I would like to add that there is nothing that can’t be fixed. The most dangerous obsticle we face today is that the communist controlled Congress and Senate prevents the Impeachment and Deportation of the foreign-born Muslim Communist U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama II. If and when we take our country back this November, it will depend on the guts of our new Representives that would generate the Impeachment and Deportation of the foreign-born Muslim Communist U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama II? It can be done in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. It is extremely important that we close our borders and round-up all Muslims who are bent on “KILLING US” and taking-over our sovereign nation, including all illegal aliens and place them all into concentration camps until everyone of them are deported. And don’t tell me it can’t be done! Franklyn D. Roosevelt did it with all legal American Japanese citizens during the Second World War. So forget this civil rights that are presently being used against us. We are in a position to exile anyone that hates America, and to hell with the ACLU. The Prime Minister of Australia already warned the Muslims to GET OUT!!! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LIFESTYLE… WE ARE KNOWN FOR OUR AMERICAN HERITAGE AND OUR JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES.

      MSGT JOHN CORREA
      USAF (RET)

      • http://frankcalamia.blogspots.com Frank95054

        Well said. I urge all to read, “A Simple Koran.” Muslims are not loyal to any nation. They are loyal only to fellow Muslims. Islam is a political system with religion as a cover. Finally, Christian leaders need to wake up and lead by taking a stand against Islam. Christian’s are being murdered for their beliefs all over the Muslim world, and not a word from the Christian community.

        Finally, understand Master Sergeant, that your words are now part of a data base that is run by those who are traitors to our country and Constitution.

        1SG, USA Retired but not dead. http://www.oathkeepers.org

        • JiimCO

          In the 16th century Phillip ll of Spain, which was a superpower at the time decided the way to honor God was to make Spain a completely Christian nation. So he gave the Muslims and Jews 3 options, convert, leave or die and Spain fell from the ranks of the superpowers.

          In the 17th century England also got the idea that there was only one way to be a Christian, the rest were heretics, thus the pilgrims were forced to flee and ended up here to found a new nation that stressed … religious freedom?

          And as they say: those who refuse to read history … are doomed to repeat it!

          • CJ

            Jiim, your assumption that the results are singularly the consequence of the act is incorrect. It was a more complicated cause, and the actions you highlight were not even the major cause. However, due to the fact those governments defined the churchs’ behavior and interpretation of scripture is EXACTLY why our Constitution states our government can NOT make a law recognizing any religion. This alone will have the greatest impact in preventing this from happening here….. as long as our elected officials abide by their sworn oath to “support and defend the Constitution”.

          • JiimCO

            Well CJ, you say that can not happen here, our Constitution forbids it … yet is that not what Meyers and many others here are advocating, running the Muslims out of the country on a rail? As was pointed out, the Constitution should have protected the Japanese from being interred, yet it only took the simple expedient of suspending those right and protections to make it possible.

          • BigIron

            What you say about Spain is true; Spain did not recover from that forced exodus but it was the forced exodus of Jews that was the cause of their downfall not the forced exodus of the Muslims. All that and too many lawyers.

            The basic “Christian” god and the “Jewish” god have sufficient similarities and beliefs attached to their religions to support a similar ideological worldview but this cannot be said to be true of Islam. Indeed one need be neither a Christian nor a Jew in order to properly function within our culture and within our Republic but ones belief system, ideological worldview, must be congruent with Anglo-Saxon Common Law and Natural Law and the belief that all “rights” are endowed upon the people by their Creator (or God by whatever name called); this is really the “foundation” of our Country and thus our declared “ideological worldview”.

            The nature and foundation of Islam simply does not allow it to fit into these requirements. Islam is not a religion, it is an “ideological worldview” that is incompatible with our own. Being that Islam is an ideology and not a religion, Islam does not suffer the protections of freedom of religion guaranteed by our Constitution; it is, in fact, the enemy of our Constitution and, thus, the enemy of our Country.

          • Vicki

            lets see. Religious freedom. How well does Islam (the politic) support religious freedom?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXDAaiT6os&feature=fvw

          • Dan-o

            The fact is that the muslims are threatening our lifes, according to there Qur’an. personaly if someone theatens my life I’m going to get them before they get me, so I’m not having to worry about every time I turn the corner.

          • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

            Not condoning what Phillip 2 of Spain did, but that’s ancient history & in today’s world the only religion that does what Phil the 2nd did is Islam.

          • Brian

            It is so often true that those who do not learn from history are indeed doomed to repeat it. And on the subject of history, we can learn from the history of Islam, that its growth over the centuries has been through armed conflict.

            Muslims are loyal to the Prophet, more than to any nation state. The Prophet taught that it is better to die in Jihad than from old age, because your eternal life is assured. They are also taught that Jews are Liers and pigs, and Christians are deceived because they accept Jesus as the son of God. They are not to make friends of them. Further they are taught to lie to them until they have the upper hand.

            When the Muslims are a sizable minority in any country they will agitate for Sharia law. When they are the majority they will demand it.
            Look at Holland, Denmark, France and England! These countries are all doomed really. It is now time for all who want to remain free to take a stand against Islam. They are using our tolerance to defeat us.

          • Sams3

            All of you keep bringing up history and mentioning the fact that pilgrims fled to America, but that is where the point is. If the natives had killed the English, or let them starve they might still be around. The Indians willing opened the doors to some real brutal savages. This coutry belonged to some other free individuals and it was taken over in no time, so which history are we really worried about? Are we going to worry about be guilty of religious persicution, or would you rather sit around with your arms open and let the brutal savages in to kill us all?

        • MIKED

          I SAY DEATH TO ISLAM,AND WHEN THE REVELUTION BEGINS-AND THERE WILL BE ONE I THINK SOON THE MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONES I HUNT DOWN
          HEY ISLAM YOUR PROFIT WAS A LITTLE GIRL AND WORE PANTIES AND SLEPT IN A PIG PEN,NOW HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT YOU SCUM

          • Ron

            Miked, you are living prove that the Neanderthals are NOT extinct. Jesus would kick your ass!!

          • Ron

            Proof.

        • ChuckL

          You’ve got it correct. When are we going to publicly call Islam exactly what it is; a Theocracy looking for another nation to dominate. It is completely incompatible with the Constitution, specifically the First Amendment.

          The requirement in the Koran to allow non-believers to convert or kill them is not protected by the Constitution. The requirement to force Sharia onto everyone is direct violation of: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

          Prohibiting the free exercise of other religions clearly violates this clause, and also clearly establishes Islam as a Theocracy, not a protected religion.

          • Ron

            Any religion that requires or encourages one to be a member of that religion first before they are American is equally out of step with the intent of the Constitution. This includes some of Islam, some of Christianity, and some of Judiasm.
            We are properly Americans first and then, oh by the way, because it isn’t important, I am a Christian, and you are a Muslim, and he is a Jew. If is so important that we share strongly our American Famlihood, that it is consequential what religion we are. If your flavor of religion differs from that statement, to the degree of difference, the more closed minded your religion and you are.

            We live in a pluralistic, sectarian country, that allows us to have our own religious societies in addition to our American society. We must first remember that we are all Americans first and foremost and live together with our differences. None of us holds supreme grace to be better than anyone else. Differences and disagreement is goodness and to be lived with in the understanding of our more important “American-ness”.

      • Jana

        MSGT Correa,
        I do not know the proper terminology, but HOORAH OR HOO HAA. Something like that.
        You are so right and I applaud you for your service and I applaud you for your good common sense.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are right. send the muslims and all illegal people that are trying to bringing this country down packing and I mean all of them and close our borders! They say they are piecefull but I think that is only till they get settled in, This do gooder country has to change. We try not to offend anyone but in the process we get walked on. We need to start standing up for our country!!!!!

        • Harold

          We need to stand up for our country now, tell the muslems that we are a Christian nation based of Judeo-Christian ethics. if they don’t like that they can get out and stay out. We hav no room for those who wish to kill us and our way of life. We must fight to restore our liberties

          • Ron

            We are NOT a Christian Nation, never have been, never will be. There is no nationally proscribed religion, no test of religion for citizenship. The Constitution supports freedom of religion just as much as it supports freedom FROM religion.

            If for some demented reason, it was decided that this should be a Christian nation, the country would destroy itself trying to decide just what flavor of Christianity is the “correct” flavor. There are SO MANY!!. We would probably would start killing each other.

            We have many Christian values in this nation, but surprisingly most of them are shared by all religions.

          • Jana

            Ron,
            I really hope you feel better after throwing your fit.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Don’t forget… Eisenhower deported hundreds of thousands of illegal mexicans in our country back in the early 50′s, in just a few days! Illegal immigrants have been a problem for our Nation for many years. We must have new laws, since the old ones don’t seem to work.

        • Kate8

          Joyce, the laws we have on the books regarding this issue are just fine. The problem is that they are no being enforced.

          No laws will work if there is no will to enforce them.

        • Harold

          Joyce the current laws would work if the O administration would enforce them, but they refuse to do their job and protect our borders and deport those brought to ICE by local jurisdictions. This calls for impeachment of the Persident and the voting out of all the democrat socialists, send them all back from where they came

          • Sid

            I’m with you Harold!! Maybe we will get a big surprise this November and by some off the wall chance receive the leadership we soooo need to set the world straight. YES America IS a Capitialist nation and of the many outstanding qualities America has; It really hurts to see incompetence dictate our policies and cater to those who are bent on destroying us as a people and our nation for being tollerant and caring.

          • JohnY

            It does not matter if it is Obama that enfoces them or not. They just need to be enforced and strictly ALL THE TIME !!!

        • Beepster

          Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy – All three deported illegals to give job opportunities to returning vets. And to those that think it can’t be done, read up on history that may not be well known. Islam has a term called “Taqiyya” that says it all. Lie, cheat, steal, from the Infidels, and if that doesn’t work, kill them.

          • Brian

            Beepster!

            That is 100% on the money, and they will deny it! (which is in keeping with the strategy)

        • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

          No, what we need 2 do is run Progressives out of office & enforce laws we have. Larry the Cable Guy said it in humorous way on Sean Hannity’s radio show the other day “the nerve of Arizona making it illegal to be here illegally; what are they going to do next… make it a crime to commit a crime?”
          We have laws. Progressives/Marxists/Socialists like our current President & politicians like our last President who pander 2 them, don’t respect rule of law & it’s time 2 vote their ilk out.
          If immigration law & all laws had been enforced in nation that respects rule of law, including apprehending visa over-stayers, 911 wouldn’t have happened.

      • Pen

        Dear MSGT Correa;

        I totally agree, but when we get rid of the Muslim Obama we must also get the Communist George Soros as well, Soros has sworn for years that he would destroy America. God Bless.

        • http://personalliberty.com Clau78910

          Amen. Follow the money and you will find Soros behind every scoundrel.

      • slickporsche

        THe first thing that needs to happen,is to repeal the civil rights laws and then we can move on from there. The ACLU also needs to have all its members rounded up and put in FEMA camps.

        • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

          You are correct!!!

        • Harold

          Slick, I agree about rounding up the communist ACLU, send them all to Argentina and let Hugo deal with them. Civil rights laws are not the problem, it’s the way the Socialists deal with them, especially the racist Obama

          • HFlashman

            LOL … I stated in another post about a 7th grade interpretation…I stand corrected, it’s 3rd grade.

            BTW…Hugo Chavez is President (by popular vote) of Venezula, not Argentina.

          • Wlmitch1

            Hugo Chavez is the “president” of Venezuela, not Argentina.

      • Viktor Leben

        MSGT CORREA,

        If I had a M-16 I’d frag your ass ! Didn’t you take a vow to the Constitution ! Live and let live ! If an individual breaks the law then they should be tried .. NOT GROUPS ! What hell are you talking about Stand down Master Sargent !!!

        • S.C.Murf

          viktor, a 16 shoots bullets a grenade is for fragging you idiot

          • Viktor Leben

            Hey Smurfette,

            Sorry I forgot to mention Betty’s M-203…

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        No one could say it better!!!!!

      • Larry Owens

        I see you have the GUTS to stand up and tell it like it is.

        To bad our Career politicians and whimpie leaders have no guts.

        Lets take back our country starting on Nov.2nd vote all the incumbents
        out, replace them with tea party candidates and Republicans that have GUTS.

        vietnamvet1971

      • HFlashman

        Glad you’re retired there Sarge…..we don’t need the military polluted by that mindset you’ve displayed.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Hflashman, perhaps we should all retire?!

          • HFlashman

            If you’re currently serving in the military and such is your mindset as displayed by Sarge? Nope…20 years hard labor would be my suggestion.

        • S.C.Murf

          at least he has the courage to enlist and fight for this country. What did your dad do keep your pansy but in collage and out of harms way? 101st (up the hill)

          • HFlashman

            Murf…My father was in the second wave onto Iwo. I turned 18 the year the draft ended and as such didn’t serve. After college, I went Peace Corps and was in Central America as the Reagan supported Contras were killing and butchering civilians, priests and nuns in the name of “freedom’.

          • Ron

            S.C.Murf in response to HFlashman, says “Uh…Oh”, and slithers back under his rock.

          • Jana

            Oh no Ron, you and your anger are under that rock all by yourself!

        • Craig

          And we do not need this country polluted with idiot libs like you.

        • planoguy

          We already know how valuable the opinion of Flashman or whatever is. He is a lib, likely planted to stir things up. Possibly one of the many on Soros’s payroll – directly or indirectly. So let’s not waste any more time one this one. We have big fish to fry, and the oil will be hot on 11/2/10!

      • Schuyler aka doom

        I have to agree with you. However I have known my whole life that I was born into some hard times ahead. If you know a little bit of the scriptures. Revelations ect. then you would know that we have some apocoliptic doom getting ready to spew down upon us. revelations speaks of a religion that is the whore of all the earth that will release a holicaust that the world has never seen. It is clear at this point who the devils church is. what other religion calls you to kill all unbelievers. The concept is so opisite of Christ. Even if you know that doom is a coming you should always fight evil, or become evil youself. Let us stand together not just as American’s or where ever you live but stand together as christians in Christ. It really is the only hope that we have. The first thing that we should do is get our lives right with Christ, the second in my opionion is get rid of the muslim among us that is in the White House on Nov 2.

        • HFlashman

          Hmmm…if the first thing I have to do is gfet my life right with JC…I’d better call him. Got a number? Better yet, an email address?

          Ya disgusted or angered by that attitude? Good…think about that. What would sperate you from the Taliban then ?

          I have holier than thou hypocritical christians always trying to convert, ‘save’ etc me. I have yet to have any other religion try and force their beliefs on me.

          And…maybe you can try an explain why the Mosque two blocks away from the WTC is blasphemy…when there were TWO prayer centers in the towers AND there are strip joints within sight of the WTC ground Zero and those are Okey Dokey.

          And you wonder why people are running away from christianity…because it’s turned into something other than a private belief system…it’s turned ito a belief system which encourages cowardice, hate, and Xenophobia..

          • lynn beale

            Flashman, in love with the mirror and blind to the hate you see,

          • S.C.Murf

            hey fishman, tell that to Jesus when its your turn to stand in front of him

        • capt z

          1st, we need to get rid of the Muslims. 2nd, we need to get rid of the Mexicans. 3rd, we need to get rid of the Mormons. 4th, we need to get rid of the Roman Catholics. Then we can get started on tossing out the Baptists, 7th Day Adventists, Penticostals, and the rest of these heretics. Only after these dangerous dogmatic fools are gone will the United States be free!

      • John Betts

        I am in full agreement with you

      • Gumnaam

        MSGT Correra…Sir, do you recall that 15,000 Muslim soldiers were part of the armed forces, wearing US military uniforms, who participated in operation “Desert Storm” in 1991, the first war against Saddam’s Iraq?

        • Viktor Leben

          Gumnaam,

          Call him Master Sargent, not sir …. Or you can call him ahole, dick, but definitely not pussy ….

      • Carole

        Spot on!!
        You`re the first one I`ve heard to actually propose a solution to this dangerous ideology threatening the US and the West, in fact it`s many more countries where genocide and terrible persecution of those who are not muslims!
        I live in the UK but in a more rural area so don`t see directly what is happening here!
        I get my information online and from Christian organisations which try to inform and help Christians who are being persecuted, murdered etc. It is heartbreaking and because it is not talked about in the mainstream media hardly anyone seems to know what`s going on! It isn`t just the Christians, Jews are also having a hard time of it!
        Something has to be done before it is too late as I`m sure when they get strong enough they will start attacking us in the West.
        Please see: `Open Doors`, `Release International`, `Barnabus Fund` and there are many more websites which give good information about terrorism/persecution around the world by muslim jihadists!!

      • The Mole

        Amen brother veteran, Amen

    • refuse2lose

      The problem in the West,at least what I see in America is that we are a very gullible population. Whatever we hear on the mainstream news is considered gospel…. and our MSN does not tell the truth about Islam. It is not a peaceful religion,it is a religion built on death and domination. There is not another religion in the world that orders it’s followers to kill non-believers and dominate the world.

      If America is going to escape the reality that has overtaken Europe, then we better start telling others what is happening here. And we better stop bowing down to muslims because they might be offended by our words. IT’S OUR DAMN COUNTRY

      • Lewis Munn

        I agree. So many people in our country want nothing to do with “religion” so they cannot see the power and danger from Islaam. And they do not realize that they have a religion themselves, which usually is anti-organized-Christian-religion. They believe in it and it controls their lives and directs their action and even votes!

        Your religion is your guidance for what is right and wrong in your own life. If it is Islaam it can even make murder and murder-suicide to be good and correct actions.

        Islaam caters to the lusts of men, as so is rather anti-women. Something that a lot of folks who are so much for women’s Lib cannot see for some reason.

        They also eschew good education except when it can be used to compel others to join their faith.

        The pastor could have made his point better to have a small fire burning, and cut out and burn each page of the Qur’an that is advocating actions directly contrary to our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, and our laws based on such. There would be a much thinner book left!!

        Remember, the Qur’an and Islaam are based on the writings of a murderous highwayman, robber and womanizer, and then updated by a very rich caliph-type Ruler to fit his thoughts also. So what we have are thoughts of a successful robber and murderer, and a Ruler with absolute power over his people, fused together. And written in a dead language that only 12 interpreters claim to know!

        Read it translated to English, and weep at the implications for our culture and freedoms..

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/ Woody
        • Wlmitch1

          The Qu’ran was written in Arabic.

          • LocalYokel

            Not quite Wlmitch1. In spite of its tangled history Islamic scholar, Abul Ala Maududi, contends that the Book has been handed down to our age in its complete and original form since the time of their Prophet Mohammad. In reality it was continually revised from the Syriac trader language of of Mecca using conflicting symbols with multiple meanings and only seventeen consonants based on Christian liturgical texts,
            Caliph Uthman ordered that all circulating copies of the Quo’ran be brought to him and compiled into a standard version for circulation. Forced translation into the emerging classic Arabic and rearrangement of chronology by sura length produced seven different translations. Then he ordered that six be burned along with all known associated script including those he promised to return to Mohammad’s eleventh wife The excuse for the burning was that different readings were the cause of Muslims fighting amongst themselves over different versions.(Book 61 no.510). Can you concede that selective burning in 650 may be the single most effective act contributing to the its “holiness” in thirteen centuries? Or would you dare to assume that it was edited into fiction for the purpose of protecting the elite that are still in power in Saudi Arabia while the Qur’an is held high as the unquestionable shield of Islam? Their sword continues to be conquest by intimidation just as it began in Medina as long as all others paid them an acessed tax for “protection”.

      • Kate8

        refuse2lose, You are right. They have shoved this idea of “multiculturalism” down our throats, controlled our attitudes toward it through political correctness, and have told us that we must embrace and celebrate these foreign cultures among us. And, at the same time, we must downplay our American culture.

        Of course, the idea is to dissolve the American culture.

        Those of us who can still see through the smokescreen understand that, once the numbers of foreigners are large enough for them to gain power, all bets are off for our citizenry. They are open about their intent to conquer us (and eliminate us), whether they be Muslim or Mexican. When this day comes, and it will if we don’t curb the problem now, they will not be our friends.

      • slickporsche

        Islam is not a religion!! It is a cult, bent on world domination through repopulation with its own members. IF you look at the workings of Islam, it is real clear it is nothing but a murderous cult with all the ways and means of such.

      • Larry Owens

        you are darn right we need to take our country back.

        you are correct look at Europe it is turning in to a Muslim nation,

        Wake UP America before it is to late.

        • Sams3

          I am actually scared that soon America will look like the middle east, and it seems no matter how much I try to tell people they are just not willing to look or listen. My eyes ar wide open, and it is scary to think there will be a gobal war soon, and that is exactly what is going to happen if everyone doesn’t stand up, and end it now.
          My children deserve freedom and happiness, and no muslim should ever say different. Look what they have done in thier own land, and others.

      • HFlashman

        “There is not another religion in the world that orders it’s followers to kill non-believers and dominate the world.”

        Really? OK…so we have the Big Lie right there folks. You do realize there are interpretations of the Bible that say just that….convert ‘em or kill ‘em.

        • kenneth

          You are full of it. What part says that? Go ahead sight it for me. Word for word or just give me the passage.

          • HFlashman

            My interpretation is correct. Yours is wrong. We should toss those who don’t agree with my interpreation in jail or out of the country.

            Hmmm…now what’s the difference between what i just wrote and what is written here on these posts today? And that is why we should never, ever allow religion into our government or public lands…ever. Frippin’ nuthouse is what we’d turn into.

            Heck…to totally seperate religion from the State we should do away with the tax exempt status of churhces etc. Y’all best hope I don’t win the lottery because that would be the case I would bring to the SCOTUS.

            BTW…anyone care to show me where in the Constitution…using your own “strict construction” interpretation…that should be allowed?

          • planoguy

            The flashman NEVER answers a challenge – because he can’t. He just spews lib double-talk and attempts to divert attention from our objectives. Ignore him (or her) – a total waste of time.

          • independant thinker

            flashinthepan……….like kenneth said give us some examples and I would add from both the New Testament as well as the opld.

          • Jana

            Well, we can definetly see from flashman and viktor all of the love eminating from the radical left.
            When they can’t get their way they become garbage mouths and hate mongers.
            GEAT EXAMPLES here of what the left stands for. We see it in action.

          • Viktor Leben

            Jana,

            I’m heckling, you are taking it to serious. It’s what guys do …

          • Jana

            Viktor,
            Well, since I am not a guy I didn’t know that’s what guys do.

        • Vicki

          There may be interpretations of the Bible that say most anything the interpreter wants said. The Bible however does not say those things. Even during the inquisition it was the power brokers not the Christians who tortured and murdered people.

          For an interesting list of the differences between Islam and Christianity check out
          http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm

          pay particular attention to sections
          On Murder, Violence, War & Oppression
          and
          On the Treatment of Women

        • Dan-o

          Jesus is mentioned about 72 times in the Qur’an and Mohammad about 26 times, but instead of following our loving Lord and Savior the muslims prefer to follow Mohammad the mad man.

        • LocalYokel

          You need to live up to your name Flash. You’re still in the old testament and most informed rag heads know that time is running short.

      • The Mole

        You said it! The hell with this golbalization, and tolleration crap. Get rid of all these morons who want us tax payers to buy into all their BS.
        Its time to bring back industry to the US return our farmers to the fields and feed and produce for the world like our grandparents did!
        You go girl!

    • Warrior

      They are attempting to get a place at the table of the NWO.

      • tg7357

        WEll, if that is true, then we can expect Islam and the socialists to cancel each other out. Neither will give in to the other’s politics.

        • Warrior

          An therein lies the little problem of ideologies. Ultimately, who’s going to give the orders?

    • HFlashman

      Wow…where does one begin? The usual lies refuted and pointed out? the radical Talibanisc atttude in a christian cloak? The hate and inferioirty complex? The cowardly fear?

      All the above are present in the posts today.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Flashman, don’t forget ignorance, as demonstrated by your comment.

      • Don

        Someone said “I learned everything I need to know about Islam on 9/11″. That goes for me too. It’s up to the Muslim’s in this country to PROVE to us they are peacefull, by there actions not by what they say. We DO NOT OWE Muslims ANYTHING! By there actions at Ground Zero and around OUR Country, indicate that they are ar War with us and you are obviously on there side. You are the problem.

      • Kate8

        Flash’s comment is a perfect example of the rhetoric the left uses to silence voices of sanity on this, or any, issue.

        Shame, ridicule, derision. Whatever it takes to move this suicidal agenda forward.

      • slickporsche

        ——– and have no valid reason to be here. Nothing you ever fill your comments with is valid or makes any sense. You need to stay out of here. It might be bad for your health.

      • S.C.Murf

        along with your own cowardice.

        • HFlashman

          Hey Murf…I’m not the one saying we should restrict religious choice, nor kill those who aren’t christian, nor am I saying ridiculous statements which cannot be supported.

          Because a few thugs got lucky on 9/11 because of the incompetnece of the then administration, I never advocated anything restricting our Rights, liberties or freedoms. Nor have I advocated throwing people in jail without charges or public trials. Nor Have I advocated torture as a state approved technique for interrogation and questioning. Nor have I advcated ID checks on everyone..including Americans and then if they cannot provide proof of citizenship on the spot..toss ‘em in jail.

          Those are the acts of cowards. Which of the above have you advoctaed and supported?

          Can’t help it if you are.

          • planoguy

            Go back to the Huff Post – you are not wanted here.

          • Ron

            Yh, planoguy, because we respect Personal Liberty here. This place is all about personal liberty as long it is of a specific type. All of the judgementalism here would make Jesus puke!!!!

      • The Mole

        Hey Flash,
        You to are a self wetting watcher I see! Once again you poor libby’s are afraid of discussion, and debate. You know the fundamentales of a true democracy! Is it not a wonder why you want the fair doctrine to be reinstated? You can’t handle anyone disagreeing with your “global” thoughts! Ha, you guys crack me up!

    • EddieW

      Islam is an immense threat to our way of life…but…can it be stopped? The prognosis is not good at all..If you want to see what the next 25+ years will bring, give this vid a look!! It starts slow, but quickly gets to the meat!!! Islam MUST be Stopped!!!!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atIjykihkc

      • Joyce from Loris

        Eddie, I saw it! I had chills, it was so scary. According to their numbers, we are already doomed. I, like many of those who left comments, was a little disappointed that there were no solutions or actions that were given. What do we do?

        • S.C.Murf

          there is nothing one can do to change the course, this is how it is in the end time, only with the return of Jesus will it get changed

          • Jana

            S.C.Murf,
            That is very true, and we are not to be fearful because we do belong to God, and He is not mad at us. Only those who do not know Him need to be afraid.
            I know you didn’t say that, but just in case someone else reads this it helps to be reminded.

    • Richard Pawley

      Dan, just replacing Obama in 25 months (which is a foregone conclusion) is not going to solve the problems with a religion that has had as it’s goal world domination for more than a thousand years! It may not be politically correct to say but the only thing that can fight error is truth! When we were a nation with Judeo-Christian values and followed our Constitution this was not a problem but since we have abandoned our roots, discerning truth is a lot harder. Islam is more than just a religion. It is a way of life that is dominated from birth to death with false hopes and false beliefs. In Christianity every individual is important and every individual must ask Jesus for his unique gift of salvation. It is not automatic, but when a fully taught person experiences that, they have gone beyond belief to knowledge. In Islam one can never “know” if their god will accept them or reject them. Their description of him is not at all like the God of Christians. For instance, Jesus said, “God is love” and if the god of Islam could be described in three words it might be “God is hate”. Hatred of freedom, hatred of women, hatred of life itself. “We are more dedicated to death than you are to life” said an Islamic terrorist to the Russians. It is said that most Muslims are peaceful (or non-religious) and only 7 to 10 percent are the murderers and killers the world fears. Still, that 7 to 10 percent is in the neighborhood of 100,000,000 people and as I said in one of my books, “you cannot easily defeat people who are dedicated to the god of death rather than the god of life with just laser guided weapons and missiles”. Truth is all we have, and many in this nation reject that. William Penn for whom the state of Pennsylvania was named said, “Those who will not live under God (the wisdom and rules he revealed to us in the Bible) will live under tyrants.” For non-Muslims to live in a Muslim dominated country it is much like small business trying to operate under our current tax laws and health care changes and all the new rules of our socialist leaning government. Such businesses don’t know what is coming next, it’s chaotic, so they don’t expand and they don’t hire. They are waiting until things settle down and they know what rules and laws they will be bound by under this new government. They don’t know what is going to happen next so they wait to see. Under a good Caliph times might be good but under a bad one non-Muslims may well be persecuted and killed, their land and goods stolen. When a nominal Christian “gets religion” (to quote the leftist media) meaning he or she actually experiences God in their life according to ACTS 2 of the New Testament, they are changed for the better, alcoholics stop drinking, the negative emotions are reduced, drug addicts give up drugs, and more that most who have no idea about this would simply not believe possible. If they are properly taught the transformation, sometimes instantaneous, sometimes over decades, can be amazing. I have seen things that are beyond belief and I would not tell of them here simply because ordinary worldly people couldn’t conceive of such things being true. Sadly, when a nominal Muslim “gets religion” we have things like the Ft. Hood massacre. Even sadder (for them), is that all humans are bound by certain universal principals or laws that govern the Universe. You don’t have to believe in the Law of Gravity but if you jump off a cliff you will fall towards the larger object below you, the earth. Likewise what is called the Law of Reciprocity by some, explains the simple words of Jesus, “As you sow, so shall you reap”. Those who cause terror and fear in others, those who wantonly murder their enemies in the name of Allah or Jihad, they themselves must experience all the terror and pain that they cause others. That is simply one of the Laws of the Universe. “Those who slay with the sword must be slain with the sword,” is not something that we need to fulfill like the religious Saudi’s who want to severe the spinal cord of a man who in a fight stabbed his opponent and crippled him. The man’s relatives demand it under the despicable and primitive Sharia law. It is not for mankind to fulfill the laws of the Universe unless we are taking upon ourselves the mantle of God. Such people like the Saudi Secret Police (whom I mention in “The Last Days of the Late Great United States”) will have to experience all the terror they cause to others as will the terrorists. Mass murderers and suicide bombers are condemning themselves to pain and suffering on a scale that most cannot imagine. It’s the law of the Universe, regardless of whether we believe it or not. Only by accepting the forgiveness that Jesus earned for us on the cross can we escape the terrors that awaits us if we are an unrepentant sinner. Those who commit crimes for other reasons must also pay the penalty if they are not forgiven. So you can see that suicide bombers are the most pitiable of creatures, dangerous to be sure, but they must not be hated. Jesus said not to hate your enemies. Why? Because you are harming yourself when you do. You may have to kill them but don’t hate them. His word to soldiers was telling as well, “Be content with your pay.” While those who know the truth must oppose Islam they should not fearful or disrespectful. Only truth can save our nation, us, or even Muslims. There are over a hundred mosques in NYC and the location of the one currently being fought over is paramount. It is a symbol of conquest and dominance. More than 60 Muslims were killed in the World Trade Center but that is of no consequence to the True Believer’s. Their perverted beliefs hold all others in contempt. They worship death and when they cross over to the life beyond this one they will have more of what is called eternal death than hopefully any reading this can ever even imagine. God IS loving but He is also JUST. If our nation had continued to live according to the teachings of the Bible and the beliefs of our founding fathers we would not have the problems we have now, but it has to begin inside each person. Renewal and restoration must begin within the human heart. Islam does not change hearts, neither does psychology. Religion doesn’t change hearts either. The most religious being who has ever existed was named Lucifer until he chose to become what we call Satan, the chief of demons. Only God changes hearts and it is a marvel to behold sometimes when he does. Humans who shake their fist at the sky are like ants screaming at the sun compared to the power and glory of God, and the crazy insane message of the Bible is that God loves us and wants us to be happy and fulfilled and to live life to it’s fullest and that is what the basics of the Bible are all about. I’m reminded of when Khrushchev shook his fist in the United Nations in 1959 and said to the western world (and the USA specifically) “We will bury you!” That remains to be seen but religious Muslims are far more dangerous because THEY really want to bury us, and if the world allows Iran to acquire nuclear weapons they will surely use them, first on Israel and then wherever they choose. The most religious in Iran want a war where at least 100,000,000 will die. Remember there are an estimated 45,000 Muslims who have slipped in along with the Hispanics from Mexico that Harry Reid and others want to make into instant citizens. One smuggling ring won’t even bother smuggling Hispanics because the Muslims pay so much better. We are in the classic fight between good and evil and if we are losing it is because we don’t even know a war is going on. Remember these 100,000,000 worship death. The wealthy upstate NY Muslim businessman and owner of a TV Station was acting out his heritage when he cut off the head of his wife who had the audacity to want a divorce. The Muslim father who killed his two teenage daughters in Texas because they talked to boys from their high school at the mall was no different. We may someday have a WWIII with the forces of this cult-like religion and millions will die and that will be to their liking. I’m just glad that I know my life
      here is “just a parenthesis in a sentence in a paragraph on the page of the book of…” my life. What we do here is important but it is only a tiny part of all that there is. Remember to vote in November or mere physical survival will be our biggest concern in a few short years. May God bless all who read this and may they someday learn how very much God loves them.

      • kenneth

        Right on Richard. Very well said. Wish you could e-mail that to me so I could spread that around. The people I love need to hear this just as you have wrote it. Thanks

        • Jana

          Kenneth,
          You can copy and paste it into your email or word.

        • Jana

          Richard, that was a great article that you wrote. I agree with it all the way. As you said, we definitely do not hate these people. Dealing with different Muslims, you find they are really nice people. Very misguided but nice. We do hate what they stand for, so does God.
          Another point is according to most Muslims, very few women will make it to heaven.

        • libertytrain

          there are a series of “buttons” directly under the article that would allow you to do any number of things.

      • S.C.Murf

        Your message of Jesus changing lives is right on the money. After spending 2 years in nam (101st) I came home and crawled into a bottle of booze and stayed drunk for 7 years. I could not go 34 minutes without a drink. After getting down on my knees and asking Jesus into my heart and to take over my life I haven’t found it necessary to take a drink in 34 years. Praise Jesus. Getting down on your knees puts you in good standing with GOD

      • Schuyler aka doom

        Thank You Richard for your words of hope and peace. We need more people in this world who think and have faith as you have desplayed. I know what I have read is the truth. It is what lingers in my heart as well. sometimes it is hard the see the big picture when you live in a small portrat. We must try to scurge the doomed individuals from among us without becomming one. Nov, 02 Is a leagal and peaceful way of this process. Take care and God bless.

      • dan az

        Richard pawley
        thanks for that! truth is but a beginning to an end!

    • T

      The ideology of “islam” conforms to most of the requirements that qualify it as a cult. The muslim “religion” is therefore not a religion but a cult that is based on violence and non-tolerance. They are so violent natured though, that to classify “islam” as a cult would cause world war 3. The reading of the koran needs to be banned in America and other free countries as it promotes murder and child molestation and theft and spousal abuse. Their idol “muhamed” was a cheat and a pedophile yet many muslims are so willing to lay down their lives “to protect” his reputation. People all over the world need to wake up. There needs to be a law against many of the koran teachings that promote violence and murder and theft. There is no honor in worshiping a violent pedophile as your hero.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    What infuriates me is not enough of the “peaceful” non-radical Muslims in the USA are willing to speak up against the radicals. I’m at the point, where if they think we’re such a horrible people…why the heck do they wish to stay in our country? I used to believe they were just afraid….but I’m quickly approaching the I don’t care if you’re a peaceful Muslim and afraid to speak out against the radicals. You can leave with the rest of them now.

    No matter what some may say about this country, and understanding no country is perfect…..this country has done more for legal immigrants (and apparently for many illegal immigrants) than our country. So…again, if we’re so horrible, why keep coming here….if not to do us harm?

    I’m with John….sick and tired of worrying about what they’ll think of us anymore.

    • Tom

      Fed Up Gal in NM, first there are no moderate Muslims’. All Muslims subscribe to Islam and there is only one Islam, the one that believes in Sharia Law which wishes the destruction of western society. Second, they do no assimilate because their wish is conquest from within. They do not assimilate to our values, we assimilate to theirs. The goal, which is not hidden from anyone who cares to do any research, is a new caliphate. The ground zero mosque is a prime example; they are putting it there as a symbol of conquest, hence the Cordoba Center, read what the original Cordoba Mosque was.

      • Doc Sarvis

        There is a whole spectrum of Muslim belief just as there is with Christians. There are radical Muslims and radical Christians – moderate Muslims and moderate Christians and every stripe in between. Your assertion is a myth.
        Building a mosque in downtown NY city is far less objectionable than all the confederate flags one sees across this country (particularly in the south). That is a constant reminder of many American’s backwards view of human equality.

        • Jana

          Doc,
          Your statement shows that you do NOT know what you are talking about. You are being very naive and gullible in your thinking.

          • Doc Sarvis

            It is easy to talk me down but you provide nothing to prove me wrong.

          • Michael J.

            Doc Sarvis,
            We got it Doc, you hate America.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Michael J.
            It is because I love America so much that I stick my neck out to defend one of our founding principals, the freedom of religion. Hate, fear, and misinformation are all old and easy tricks to undermine the high values of our good country.

          • http://www.personalliberty.com J.Cruz

            Jana. I suggest that you, and everyone else that thinks like you, just simply READ THE KORAN YOURSELF!

          • Jana

            J. Cruz,
            I have been reading and studying the Qur’an myself. Have you? I am also studying the Bible.
            Read some of these posts J., and Doc. and they provide plenty of proof. Only a blind man who chooses not to see the truth would speak as you do.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Islam is backwards, I will cling to my bible, my guns, my constitution, and my values/traditions. If that makes me backwards, so be it. You are and ostrich, my friend, and I will pray for your soul.

        • J.M.R.

          well doc don’t come by my house, when the dummies elected this dick-tater wanna be i took down my american flag and replaced with the confederate flag and it will fly till the dick-tater is removed

        • sheilah

          The civil war had nothing to do with slavery if you are indeed thinking this. The civil war was over being taxed to death as our administration is doing now. Watch the movie “The Patriot” and you will better understand.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Ahh, history from a movie. The Patriot was about the Revolutionary War not the Civil War!

          • Bruce D.

            You are funny Sheilah. The Patriot was a good movie. In the Revolutionary War taxes were one part of many grieviances. The war was actually started over the Redcoat march to Lexington and Concord to confiscate weapons and amunition.

          • RLS

            Sheilah’s heart is in the right place, however, we have allowed our schools to stop teaching American History to our kids. It’s no wonder they use movies as examples.

          • wth

            The Civil war was indeed about money. But I wish you hadnt said “patriot”. You were on the right track unti then. Andfew Jackson knew that the world banksters(Jews) were death to us. They tried several times to kill him. The Zionists are in the driving seat now. Since they established a legal way to steal from us at Jekyll Island.(THE FED) Everybody is whining about Muslims. Hell they arent the problem. They didnt do 9-11. They didnt attack one of our ships(USS LIberty) They didnt do Lavon Affair. Learn how to read people.

          • Ron

            Sheila, sounds like you were home-schooled by someone who wanted to keep the truth from you. You need to take a look at history once again, but this time with an open mind.

        • Bob

          Doc The confederate flag doesn’t bother me because it doesn’t stand for slavery as some would like you to believe. The Muslims were brought over here for the same reason illegals are let in this country. To start a race war.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I would love to know the source of your “information”.

          • Michael J.

            Doc Sarvis,
            The fact of the matter is Doc, that the Emancipation Proclimation was a war time tactic designed to cut the legs out from under the southerners work force. If Lincoln’s intent was to free slaves, why is it that none above the Mason Dixon line were freed? And why is it that freed slaves who joined the Union Army were only paid half wages?

          • Kate8

            Bob, You are right about the intent to start a race war. The left has been fanning those flames since the days of MLK.

            It is just another aspect of the NWO agenda to create chaos everywhere, in every way possible. Then we will beg them to come in and establish order. Isn’t that their motto or something? ‘Order out of chaos”?

        • Cliffystones

          How about you explain just what is wrong with the Confederate flag? Oh, yeah. it represents all of those evil, slave owning, cross burning rednecks that you believe constitute a plurality of Southern Citizens.

          Well if you studied your history, the truth and not the liberal biased version, maybe you would understand why that flag is a symbol of honor to the real southerners. You know, the ones that got the major shaft from the north, that were burned out of their homes, raped, and murdered.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Burning, raping, and murdering occurred on both sides; as in most wars.

          • Bruce D.

            I side with the South in that war also. The South should have been allowed to succeed and we can no longer claim to be a free nation since then. But if what you say is true about the rape then all Southerners have Yankee blood in them.

          • Joyce from Loris

            I’m with you. By the way, if the South had won that war, OBAMA would not be president now! And the reason has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin, it is all about the nature of his SOUL.

          • alpha-lemming

            Hopefully, history will repeat itself. And when Tesas and other like-minded Constitutional states secede (from the oligarchy… much like the south did), they (we) will be called racist again. Not because we are, but because if you’re against wealth-redistribution, eternal welfare, and Kucinich style “businesses should be no-profit social programs”, that’s all a progressive, IQ in the mid 20s, mind can argue. Paraphrasing Van Jones a bit, but something akin to “Personal responsibility and self-sufficiency are the new code-words for racism”.

          • Ron

            No, the confederate flag represents how under-educated, stuck in the past people (not just from the south) can’t let history go. Nobody, who hasn’t been brainwashed in the belief that the history of the south is nothing but a continuum to today, even thinks a spec about the civil war one way or the other. Any thoughts of it other than interesting dusty old history are a waste of time, as are any of its symbols, flags included. We have only one flag in America.
            If the civil war is any more than “who gives a rat’s ass?!” you need to wake up and move into the 21st century.

        • Joyce from Loris

          You say that, Doc, because you are ignorant to the Southern people’s way of life. The southern people are not the only one’s who fly the Confederate Flag. They are also flown in the state of New York, Illinois, PA, CA, WY, KS, MD, the list goes on and on. Anyone who is offended by the Confederate Flag truly needs a history lesson, because that is all it’s about, history. It represents Country people all over the nation, you know, the people who farm and produce the food that you eat? The country people who prefer the sound of crickets in the evening to the bright lights of Broadway. That is all it represents. Country people all over the nation.

          • Angel Wannabe

            HUZZAH!__Joyce, well said!

        • http://Google ProudChicagoan

          Doc – I agree with Jana. You are being naive. How are these confederate flags hurting anyone? I do not see the people flying these flags threatening to kill people because they do not agree with this flag. Most people fly the confederate flag as a symbol of the SOUTH – anyone who takes offense is usually reading more into that flag than the person flying it intended. Whereas, the mosque in NYC is a VICTORY mosque, pure and simple. Cordoba? That was for victory over Spain by the muslims (forgot when). I, for one, am not afraid of the muslims; but, I really wish people like you would, at least, realize what the “radical” muslims are trying to do.

          • Doc Sarvis

            A mosque in NYC is a victory for America showing the world that we value our rights including the right to freedom of religion. Banning the mosque just shows the world how much we are just big scardy-cats.

          • Jana

            Doc,
            I am no propenent of burnin anything. But the Mosque known as Codoba House has a specific meaning.
            “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.

            Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to “symbolize interfaith cooperation” when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.

          • Kate8

            Doc is another example of how the left tries to ‘shame’ us into allowing them to push forward with the destruction of America.

            This mosque is a clear a blatant affront to the American people and our culture. THE MUSLIMS LEADERS, THEMSELVES, HAVE TOLD US THIS. Yet, the left would have us ingore the truth and pretend everything is just peachy.

            The left is delivering us right into the hands of Islam and, ultimately, the NWO. When I say the ‘left’, I mean the progressives on both sides of the aisle.

            We must stand our ground. Their shame and ridicule must be ignored for the evil tactic that it is, and we can no longer allow them to use such things to deter us.

            There is a great truth about determining the future, personally or collectively, and that is: DO NOT LOOK AT WHERE YOU DON’T WANT TO GO. When we fill the void with our own thoughts, that is what becomes, whether it is something we want or not. When we leave the next moment open (without iserting our expectation), God can insert His Will into the void, and His Ways are always toward Love, Healing, Truth and Peace.

            Food for thought.

          • Sams3

            The reason people get offended by the confederate flag is because it is usually attatched to a pick up truck full of rednecks that say, and do bad things, and it is usually being flown at the homes of hillbillys that beat thier wives. The flag itself is not offending it is usually the people attatched to the end of it that are offensive. Next time you see that confederate look real close at who is usually flying it, and ask them what that flag means?

        • Bobber

          Doc: Islam is a religion of violence & oppression – in every muslim run country religious minorities are persecuted; even in “moderate” muslim countries such as Turkey. “Moderate” muslims are those who are just hiding their true colors until the time comes to strike. Appeasement is for those who preach Satan’s gospel of tolerance. We need to remember that God is 100% intolerant of false religions and false teachers. Islam is a disease, Christ is the cure.

          • Ginny

            Thank God! Someone who actually believes in absolute truth from the Scriptures. You are so right that God is intolerant of false gods, and false religions. Repeatedly the people of the Bible were told to destroy the idols of those false religions. Where are all you Bible believeing Christians to take a stand for God’s righteousness??

          • Lewis Munn

            I think we need to not build the new mosque, but reason a bit differently.

            When it is built, it will be an affront to our country for anyone who understands Muslim practices of the “victory” mosque. Some who are non-thinking will bomb it, probably successfully, with great loss of innocent life, if the plan for general use rooms beneath of a Muslim-only portion holds. But no matter how it is divided, the misguided will seek revenge and this will make America look much worse to a world that does not understand Islaam.

            We should not let it be built because it will attract the misguided, and the result will be to ruin America’s image to the rest of the world.

            Our best approach would be to deny the permits so there is not a center of attraction to ignorant violence. More open space would not be bad for the city anyhow. Call it a peace garden!

            Defuse the area by not putting up an attractive target for the ignorant. Make it a neutral park, with trees and flowers, maybe even edible berry bushes so city kids can learn of them!!

        • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

          uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave all believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

          • Doc Sarvis

            And the Bible has the same sorts of scary dictates.

          • Michael J.

            Doc Sarvis,
            Show me where the Bible says to convert, kill or enslave non-belevers.

          • Karolyn

            Michael – You have to admit that the Old Testament has some pretty scary stuff in it.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Michael J.
            If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

          • Kate8

            The Bible states clearly, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” (murder).

            The OT is full of examples of what happens to those who murder. Even David (a man after God’s own Heart) was plagued with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life, even though God forgave him. His enemies never relented in their pursuit of his life.

            The NT emphasises this even more. Yeshua states that even holding hatred in one’s heart makes him guilty of murder.

            Where in the Koran does it say, ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill’? No, it says, ‘You MUST kill. It is your duty’ (paraphrase).

            You people who insist on comparing Christianity with Islam have no understanding of Scripture. The Bible says that those who have not the Spirit in them will not understand Scripture, but it will appear as so much foolishness…For those with ears to hear…

        • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

          uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave alL NON believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

        • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

          uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave alL NON believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment OF WOMAN is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

        • marvin

          Doc Sarvis you are a moron

          • Doc Sarvis

            marvin,
            I am shocked that you would call me such a name and then not back it up with anything. You got anything?

          • Kate8

            Doc, You indict yourself by your own words. What better evidence is there?

            LOL.

        • Bill

          When you learn where the Symbols of The Confederate Flag came from, then please post something useful. Do your research before putting your foot in your mouth.

          • Doc Sarvis

            From infoplease.com

            “The Confederate battle flag, called the “Southern Cross” or the cross of St. Andrew, has been described variously as a proud emblem of Southern heritage and as a shameful reminder of slavery and segregation. In the past, several Southern states flew the Confederate battle flag along with the U.S. and state flags over their statehouses. Others incorporated the controversial symbol into the design of their state flags. The Confederate battle flag has also been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols.”

            It is this more recent history with hate groups that is most alarming.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Well Karaolyn my handle implies I’d like to be an angel, I’m just not! The difference between me & thee, is I can admit my faults!_I always said, I’m a Christian, I never once implied I was a perfect one!

          • Karolyn

            Angel – I too admit I’m not perfect, but I am striving to be the best person I can be. That is my purpose in life. I don’t call people nasty names; basically because it’s just so childish. I might use the terms “ignorant’ and “uneducated;” but you will never hear me telling anybody here or anywhere to get their head out of their a–s.

        • zingara

          so…doc sarvis, when you have time, why don’t you send some of your “observations” to england, france, germany, spain, italy, holland, denmark, norway, finland, switzerland,portugal, etc, etc….i’m sure you’ll find 1 or 2 people left in those “islam-occupied” countries who will accept your premises.

          • Woody

            The prospect of Eurabian nights draws closer with every passing day, mainly because of people just like the Doc. As Niall Ferguson (a British historian)observed: “A youthful Muslim society to the South and East of the Mediterranean is poised to colonize a senescent Europe to the North and West.”

            Take it from this Englishman, the colonization is well under way.

            http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4871980784/in/set-72157624527247651/

        • Angel Wannabe

          Oh, Doc go find your own damn proof, thats all you liberals Scream, Show me proof, Show me proof__This is ALL opinion based. Opinions are like a**holes we all got one!__That said, shove your proof where the sun don’t shine!!!

          • Karolyn

            Well, Angel, that’s your OPINION. However, when Doc states his he doesn’t resort to low life name-calling. And you’re such a good Christian too.

        • Karolyn

          I’m with you Doc. I don’t understand why these people don’t get it. They’re not all out to get us! I do believe that especially the Anmerican-born Muslims are starting to speak out. There is a commercial coming out about just how American they are. Whether their beliefs are different or not, they are all God’s children too. Rather than spread hate, we should be “reaching across the aisle” to foster oooperation. But this is all in vain because most of the people on this list have tunnel vision and are not willing to look at issues from the other side.

          • Ron

            Karolyn – fostering cooperation does not mean letting muslims build a shrine to their murderous ways. You libs are the ones with tunnel vision. It’s always got to be your way. Please move to Europe and quit preaching to the rest of us how we need to be more tolerant. Where’s the muslim tolerance? There is none. Those who show any are threatened with death by guess who – other muslims.

          • Robert Wayne

            And I see here another lowlife left wing bitch who is stupid enough to fall for the raghead muslim dictates. I will say one good thing about muslims though. Shit eating bitches like you wouldn’t last long in their world. You’d be stoned as soon as you opened your ugly mouth.

          • http://0 phillip davis

            you karolyn are an idiot amd a true libtard,i hope you get a clue before your open arms to the muzzies gets your head sawed off by one of them

          • Warrior

            The imam was on abc news a couple Sunday’s ago. The imam was asked if had he known before they decided to build the NYC mosque at the current location, it would have created such an uproar, would he have still selected this site? Of course The imam’s answer was NO.

            Therein lies your answer.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn, Islam makes it very clear what they are to do: Make friends of your ‘enemies’ until to are strong enough to overtake them.

            What is it that you lefties don’t get about this?

            If there are Muslims who do not practice their religion, who would renounce the doctrine that states things such as this, who would embrace the American culture and be willing to be one of us, THEN FINE.

            Would you suggest that we must allow them all to come, because we don’t know which ones want to kill us and which ones don’t? Wouldn’t it make more sense to do as we did prior to LBJ, and only allow cultures compatible with ours to come into our country? IT IS OUR COUNTRY. IT IS AMERICA. If you don’t want to be American, DON’T COME.

            You would have them blow us all up and just let God sort it out?

            There is no rule that says we must be ‘compassionate’ or ‘accepting’ to the point of being suicidal.

            Geeze. You liberals are really dense. What’s it going to take to wake you up? Are you willing to sacrifice your own children to those who would harm us, in order to receive those who don’t? Will it take a bomb going off in your own house for you to understand?

          • Right Wing

            Kremlin Karolyn…have you been shooting up with multicultural Koolaide again? The fact that you use commercial advertisement as a basis to defend Muslims tells me you probably have a ton of useless crap in your house from QVC shopping channel and boxes of television-sponsored charity receipts laying about your house. Try tapping into the knowledge that exists in the last great bastion of free speech and open information exchange on the internet. You can find scholarly articles and books on the subject, interviews with Muslims and Muslim Apostates, news reports and the like. A well rounded gathering of information is critical to forming a qualified opinion and from what I have seen from the likes of you, Doc Sarvis, and most liberals is either an uniformed acceptance of liberal multiculturalism, baiting and taunting of Americans for America, or a watered down version of more subversive ideologies aimed at fragmenting cohesive public opinion. The last of these requires true skill and since the predominant support of Constitutional values on this site does not appear to be jeopardized, you are relegated to the lower levels of simple thought and childish behavior.

          • Karolyn

            Wow! You guys are just so articulate. You really think you get any point accross by foul language? You just demonstrate your ignorance and lack of respect for other people and their views.

          • Viktor Leben

            Karolyn,

            I don’t know if we are all God’s children. My outlook is people are individuals – personal responsibility. Live and let live ! No pre-judging !

            Doc – the South should have been allowed to secede … No slaver ship ever flew the Confederate flag ! On the flip side The Stars and Stripes flew over many a slaver’s ship !

            Each individual, be he/she Moslem, Christian or Atheist are personally responsible for his/her actions … Most live in peace -a few, from all groups, murder. That’s why we have police and courts, to punish the guilty individual ! Not the guilty “group” !!!

          • kenneth

            You are tunnel vision and truth blinded. You wouldn’t know truth if you saw it. A Muslim who calls themselves Muslim are no less following Koran. How can you believe in hate and killing and somehow believe there is love at the end of it? If you feel so righteous about Islam and the Koran move there. Have a happy life. Be amongst those who feel the very same way you feel. See how wonderful their freedom is. Do it? I dare you. Why are you here to take advantage of what Christians have given up there lives for. The Muslim indoctrination is nothing more than a few dominating others for their own pleasure and control. Your a moderate because of the pecking order until they tell you (those in control) tell you what to do. If then you don’t do what you are told, then you will face physical mutilation or death. Tell me that doesn’t go on today, in the Muslim world of faith. Tell me why a Muslim man who lived in America and was in the service and who talked with a Muslim cleric overseas would go to a military base and kill anyone around him he could and cry out Allah as he did it. Those are called truths. Don’t give me your drivel.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Look Darlin’, we’ve had Political correction shoved up our butts, our noses, and any other orifice that’s open FOR YEARS! Your President bows to other Countries, he makes apologies for America, blames everyone, and they’re Great Uncle, for choices he himself has made, the last two years. And anyone knowing the history of Sal Alinsky, knows Obama is working it to the “T”!_ America and her people has bent over backwards, being Politically Correct and accepting multi-cultures and WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE GOTTEN IN RETURN?___9/1!___Kids who were Told to stop singing a patriotic song, at one our OWN Memorials in Washington!!__We are told, to take down PUBLIC Memorial Crosses that Honor our fallen soldiers, Christmas Nativities are not allowed, because it may, offend someone. Ya know what I’ve about had it with this shyt TOO!
            IN CAPS__I DON’T GIVE A DAMN IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WORSHIP A DOG, BUT THEY HAVE NO MORE RIGHT TELLING ME TO STOP THE PUBLIC DISPLAY OF CHRISTIANITY,(and hiring the ACLU to fight a case against my right) THAN I HAVE DEMANDING THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD!___THE OLD ADAGE IS TRUE, “IF WE DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING, WE’LL FALL FOR EVERYTHING!!!”___AND WE HAVE!__ WE FALLEN HEAD LONG INTO THIS POLITICAL CORRECT BOTTOMLESS PIT OF HELL AND IT’S ALL BRAIN WASHING!!!!__We were founded on Christianity with God given rights, it didn’t say ‘OBAMA’S GIVEN RIGHTS!!!!!!

          • Kate8

            Angel-Wannabe, I hear ya loud and clear! You say it like it is, and many, many Americans are fed up with being told we have to tamp down our patriotic or Christian displays so as not to offend the foreigners among us.

            I would understand that if I went to another country, I should respect their culture, not expect them to bow to mine.

            There are more and more Muslims-turned-Christians who have been speaking out the loudest to warn us about Islam’s true intent here, and everywhere. No matter what they say, they are here to impose Islam on America. They are just waiting while they gain in strength.

            Those who defend Islam in America aren’t looking at the truth. As usual, they are bleeding-heart liberals, coming to the defense of the ‘underdog’, not wanting to see that the underdog is a wolf who sees them as the same prey as everyone else.

          • Claire

            This name-calling is one reason WHY I will not vote Republican. And they say the Liberals are nasty. Give me a break. I see name-calling from both sides. Neither party walks on water.

          • Claire

            My post was directed to Robert Wayne.

          • Kate8

            Claire, name calling is the reason you won’t vote republican? I hope this doesn’t mean that you will vote democrat, because for every republican that name-calls, there are 10 democrats who do, and worse.

            Where is all the name calling you are talking about? We are fed up. When you get really mad, you might get a bit over the top.

            I hope you are looking toward another party altogether, because the democrats have nowhere good to take us. I am voting for those who promise to stand for America, regardless of whether they are Republican, Libertarian or Constitution Party.

            I will never vote democrat, because if a candidate aligns with the socialist/communists on the left, they cannot represent American values.

          • Claire

            kate8–No Democrat. No Republican. As far as I am concerned there isn’t one politician with any common sense brains that is running for an office. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils. And to me, this is what it comes down to. I am totally fed up with the crap from both parties. I will probably vote for a third party. I have listened, read, watched, researched and I do not like what I am seeing and what I am finding out about these so-called “promising” candidates.

          • Jana

            Kat8,
            I was dealing with a lovely exMuslim woman about 8 years ago. She told me no actually she warned me to never ever trust a Muslim. She told me several wow things that I honestly thought she was over-reacting to, however now I know she was telling me the truth. She told me she HAD to move away because she was not safe. Again at that time I thought -sure-, but now I know she really was in danger because she had changed her religion to something else. It was not Christian but I don’t remember what.
            Oh, by the way I have some information on what we talked about before. We need to find a way to talk off this board because this probably isn’t the place for it. ;)

          • Kate8

            Jana, Any ideas about how we can do that?

          • Jana

            Kate8,
            Yes, I have just set up a temporary email through yahoo. But before I give itto you I want to make sure you are still on this site.

        • Ron

          Doc – radical christians are not killing non believers they simply preach holy than thou beliefs and believe we are all going to hell if we don’t live like christ. You’re free to leave with the rest of the USA haters.

          • Doc Sarvis

            President Bush claims to be a Christian yet he lied to start a war with Iraq and killed tens of thousands (at least) of Iraqi civilians/muslims.

          • Kate8

            Doc, Many politicians claim to be Christian in order to get votes.

            Obama claims to be Christian and yet twists and perverts the Scriptures at every opportunity, advocates the slaughter of babies, robs our people of their wealth to give to global financiers and, in general, whose actions to the contrary are too numerous to mention.

            Clinton had photo-ops of himself carrying a Bible to church, yet he sent troops to help Muslims fight the people who were trying to push back the Islamic takeover of their country.

            Pelosi claims to be Catholic, and yet condones the slaughter of babies, and the push of Americans into slavery and the NWO (the Bible clearly states that the world government is satanic).

            So what’s your point?

        • mark

          People always say their is radical christians when compairing Islam because they are afraid of being called a bigot.
          Where are these radical christians sucicde bombers calling out God is great ? all I hear about is muslims always killing people for non belief in islam, their os over 140 conflicts or war going on in the world and islam is alway on one side of it. so do you class victims as radical christians for dieing ?

        • Tahoe Dave

          In what key do you sing “Kumbaya”, Doc? Lets see the hoards of friendly, like-minded Muslims join your choir.

        • Robert Wayne

          What an imbecile you are. I proudly fly the Confederate flag. And this country, at least the southeastern portion of it would be a helluva lot better off if our ancestors had gotten their independence from the scumsucking Lincoln liberals whose decendants like you hate white southerners while kissing up to the raghead scum who consider you nothing more than a useful fool for them to destroy western civilization. I despise you just as much, if not more than those same raghead muslims you ally yourself with.

          • Doc Sarvis

            You don’t sound like you are speaking from that shining city on the hill or whatever referred to the U.S. as being. You sound like you are speaking from a rather cruddy hole. Let’s elevate the discourse shall we.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I meant to say whatever President Reagan used to referr to the U.S. as…

          • Karolyn

            Oh, Robert, now I get it. You are a southerner. I live in the south and fortunately do not have to deal with people like you; or at least they keep their ideologies to themselves.

          • Sams3

            I don’t think that the liberals would spend so much of thier time on here if they didn’t see a problem too. I believe we are all worried about how things are going, and they are too. Yeah, sure we want to believe there is some good in some Muslims, and some do disagree with radicals, but just like at the airport, we all suffer now because of a few highjackers, doesn’t matter who you are you will be searched thoroughly for the mistakes of others, and so the peacefull muslims will suffer for the mistakes of the radical ones. Every bad thing that your religion does reflects on you, just like with the Catholic priests, and now everyone assumes that all priests are like that. Whos fault is it, the people who knew and didn’t stop it. So if they don’t agree they better stand up and yell it.

        • Right Wing

          Doc you are comparing apples and oranges. Threats against Islam result in doctrined death warrants (Fatwah) that will be acted upon while calling an American a “red neck” for flying the Confederate flag might just get a big “hell yeah”. Yes there may be differing factions in the Islamic faith but you cannot ignore that this “religion” is an integration of church and state that serves to ensure the spread of shariah. Do your own homework on the topic instead of providing supposition that others here are uneducated and therefore, know less than you.

          If you want to compare the levels of devotion between Islam and Christianity then look no further than the current actions of each in our evolved, civilized world society. I see no collective support from Christians issuing death threats, conducting “martyrdom” (suicide)bombings, stoning women to death, murdering writers and artists for drawing Muhammad or criticizing the Koran. What you can’t ignore is that the Muslim world is standing united against the current atrocities committed by Muslim “extremists”. We all saw clearly how the “peaceful” followers of Islam reacted to one man’s planned burning of a book. Placate all you want but don’t expect others to follow your passive trek down the road to Muslim assimilation. This is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Do Not Tread on Me. If a death threat is the best these rats can offer then bring it on. They do not subscribe to any form of conventional war and the only way to expose them is to offend them. They will fight to the death if offended but will cry injustice at every opportunity until they dominate by majority. What a cowardly existence of intolerance for diversity.

          • Right Wing

            slight but important correction…What you can’t ignore is that the Muslim world is (NOT) standing united against the current atrocities

        • http://MSM.com LeRoy

          I’m with the guy that said (if you think we are so bad then go with the rest of the muslims and leave this great country!!!!!!

        • Cheryl

          Doc,
          Apparently you are one of those with the wool still pulled over your eyes and a closed mind. You have listened to too many blacks and progressives. They are the ones who keep bringing up things that happened hundreds of years ago. As for the confederate flag, do you ever stop to think that maybe some people fly it because they had relatives who fought in the war? In some sense the war is still going on. People from the north move to the south and then want to change the way the southern people live their lives. People in the south don’t like that. People in the north grumble about all the blacks and other nationalities who move there and take jobs. I know this stuff happens because I live in the south and my husband’s family lives in the north. I have been around both enough to know.

        • MSGT JOHN CORREA – USAF (RET)

          Doc Sarvis, Your analogy of the Southern flag and the mosque are by no means comparable to what they represent. Have you ever bothered to conduct research into the life of Muhammad and his fairy tale vision of Gabrial who supposedly gave him the Qur’an (Koran)? Do you know what it says in Sura 5:48, 5:57, 9:5, 9:3, and 9:29 of their Qur’an (Koran)? Do you know who killed Bobby Kennedy in 1968? Do you know who kidnapped and massacred the athletes during the Munich Olympics in 1972? Do you know who over-ran the U.S. Embassy in Iran in 1979? Do you know who kidnapped Americans in Lebanon in the 1980s? Do you know who killed 200 American Marines in Beirut in 1983? Do you know who killed a 70 year old American and threw him overboard in his wheelchair in 1985? Do you know TWA Flight 847 was hijacked in Athens, while a U.S. Navy Diver was murdered when trying to rescue passengers in 1985? Do you know who bombed Pam Am Flight 103 and killed innocent men, women and children in 1988? Do you know who tried to bomb the WTC in 1993? Do you know who bombed the U.S. Embassies in Kenya [Obama II's birth place] and Tanzania in 1998? Do you know who murdered nearly three thousand Americans and the destruction of the WTC on September 11th, of 2001? I hope by the above account will have drawned you a picture of reality. Do you know about the American traitor Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts who introduced his bill S.3688 under the guise of the “International Professional Exchange Act of 2010″ that would flood the nation with more Muslims? Do you know the Muslim Brotherhood in North America describes a covert process of Islamic “settlement” in the United States? The plan is to carry out a “grand jihad” in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from “within” and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminate, according to its document. Do you know there are thirty-five Muslim terrorist training camps throughout the U.S.? Try not to justify and glorify the existance of Muslims on our soil; they all worship and practice Islamic law and their push of their Shariah law as the law of our soveveign nation. Our nation was born under Judeo-Christian principles and we Americans will fight to the end to uphold our American heritage.

          MSGT JOHN CORREA
          USAF (RET)

          • Viktor Leben

            Dammit Master Sergeant !

            We are a nation of individuals ! It’s up to the individual if he/she wants to break our laws ! Are you dense ?

            I’d frag your ass if I had a M-16 ! You better stand down !

          • DANIEL W. DYKES, MSGT, USAF RET

            AMEN BROTHER. KNOW THY ENEMY; THE BETTER TO DEFEAT. IT’S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, BUT WHEN WEILDED BY THE TRUTHFUL WILL BE TRIUMPHANT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WOEK JOHN.

          • Right Wing

            Vic, I assume your comment was in jest? First of all do not disrespect anyone who has worn a uniform in service of this country. Second do not threaten harm to any soldier especially if you do not know that fragging involves a grenade and/or that an M-16 is rifle. He would probably kick your butt so hard the last thing to go through your mind would be his combat boot.

          • Viktor Leben

            Right Wing,

            I’ll frag your right shoulder from 4 clicks out with my .50 caliber widowmaker ! How’s that for a “grenade” you REMF ‘tard !

          • Viktor Leben

            I AM VICTOR LEBEN ! NO ARMY CAN STAND AGAINST ME AND WIN !

          • Right Wing

            Ooh boy. Vic go back to watching Power Rangers.

          • Joyce from Loris

            I bet Viktor knows kung fu, too! You had better be careful, John. ROFLMAO!!!!

          • dan az

            msgt john correa
            well said and to the point thanks!

          • Jana

            Right on MSGT Correa,
            Poor Viktor just had a melt down. But, he is always having them. So we take what he says like a few grains of salt spilled on the floor. Sweep them up and throw them away.

          • Viktor Leben

            Ditto Jana ! I am a nutcase ! HA HA !

        • Joyce from Loris

          Doc, your comments are proof of one thing important. The two different religions can not coexist in peace. That is why the muslims should stay in their own land, and stay out of our Christian founded America. I stand by my Bible, I do not apologize to anyone for it, nor will I make excuses for it. Jesus Christ was sent to us by gift of God, so that we could be forgiven of our sins by God. Our faith in Jesus, and the salvation we receive, protects us.

        • EddieW

          You need to have a deeper understanding of Islam…It is not peaceful at all…you become a Muslim or you DIE!!! No tolerance for anything else…even the “peaceful” ones are committed to this policy!!!

          • Doc Sarvis

            ya, right.

          • Right Wing

            Doc Sarvis…eco-warrior facade from the “The Monkey Wrench Gang”. You must have considered Luddite as a pseudonym as well huh?

          • Doc Sarvis

            Right Wing,
            Had to Google that one. Not a reader of E. Abbey myself.

          • Woody

            “I have complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America, because Islam has logic and a mission.” Muhammad Mahdi Othman ‘Akef

            Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. — Council on American-Islamic Relations Chairman Omar M. Ahmad, speech, July 1998

            “Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life. Islam guides Muslims from birth to grave. The Quran and prophet Muhammad’s words and practical application of Quran in life cannot be changed. Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgement. It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it. Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims, it is the supreme law of God. Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality.” Nazra Quraishi, kindergarten teacher. (In the Lansing State Journal, Michigan, July 5, 2006

            “Islam is advancing according to a steady plan, to the point that tens of thousands of Muslims have joined the American army and Islam is the second largest religion in America. America will be destroyed. But we must be patient.” Saudi Professor Nasser bin Suleiman al-Omar

            “We did not occupy the US, with eight million Muslims, using bombings. Had we been patient and let time take its course, instead of the eight million there could have been 80 million [Muslims], and 50 years later perhaps the US would have become Muslim.” Saudi preacher Sheikh Said al-Qahtani (On criticizing Al-Qa’eda for being impatient, and waking the West up)

            “We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it.” Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd al-Rahman al-’Arifi, imam of the mosque of the Saudi government’s King Fahd Defence Academy

        • T

          No matter who reads the koran it still says the same thing (kill the infedels and take their land). Just because a person does not worship the pedophile muhamed loudly does not mean that person is not worshiping him. They need to wake up and decide for themselves if they want logic and truth or tribal ways and horrors to live by for the rest of their lives.

      • Disgusted

        We have paved the way for this to happen. When we tolerate our flag being flown upside down or when we tolerate another countries flag being flow above ours we are sending a clear message and Islam is hearing it loud and clear. They see our weakness as time to take action. Our “tolerance” is being viewed as “weakness” and we need to put an end to it.
        If you want to live in this country then this country comes first: speak the language, write the language and you are not a minority anymore – you are an american citizen…..period. Otherwise – get out and go back to your own country.
        Do you think for one minute Islam would tolerate us building a Christian temple on their land? Never. Yet we are just expected to tolerate it here. If we do we are showing how weak in our faith and principles we really are and they will come.
        GOD help us all!

        • http://Google ProudChicagoan

          Flying the flag upside down is not always wrong – it is a distress signal. But, I agree with you about flying another country’s flag above ours. Unfortunately, though, that happens in the U.S. People in this country need to respect our flag and our history. That is what really concerns me. What is being taught in school now scares me more than the muslims.

          • http://Verizon.net Billy Dyro

            Even though we no-longer produce much of anything but technology anymore, and therfore are on the fast track to the third world because of our massive debt to “Chindia” I still believe this is the greatest nation on the planet. I may have only traveled to four other contries in my life, but from my little experience and from what I’ve learned about the rest of the world, I thank God I was lucky enough to be born here. We still have more freedoms here than anywhere else in the world, and we have to protect every one of our freedoms because the self-rightous liberal Democtats, and Republicans in name only, want nothing more than to limit our freedoms. Don’t kid yourself, our elected officials may be elected by the people, but they do think of themselves as royalty. Back in either 1985, or 1986, then junior liberal senator, Charles Schumer came and spoke to my h.s. class and was extremely angered when his anti-2nd amendment myths and viewpoints were challenged by some young snot-nosed kid armed with NRA facts because he had just gotten his rifle liscense and was excited about his upcoming first hunting trip. He was debunked into a corner with the facts and he came out screaming at a young man who at the time probably wasn’t even half his age. Now that I look back at it, I can smirk at the fact that I threw him into a royal temper tantrum, there is just no other way to describe it.
            Thank God for the Tea-Party. I know the movement is still in it’s infancy but I hope it truly does grow into a real third party to save our constitution.
            I work in Brooklyn, not to far from an large Muslim school that is probably funded by our tax dollars, and I can confidently say from my contacts and experiences with the parents of these children over the years that they do despise non-Muslims, and they probably will never assimilate into our culture like our parents did before us. That never bothered me at all, to each his own I always believed until Sept. 11th happened and I witnessed the pride and joy that some of these people exhibited on that dreadful morning, even before the rest of the country was informed that the highjackers involved in the plane crashes were infact Islamic terrorists.
            Yes this is a war, and a religious one, so it will probably last forever. It will probably grow alot bigger than it is now, but in the end, I have faith in the American people, and we will prevail as long as we don’t let it be destroyed.

          • Jana

            Billy D,
            Too bad there were no cell phones with cameras back then. That would have been a hoot to watch. Good for you.

          • Lewis Munn

            And I was apalled when the illegals hung our flag upside down under theirs; the symbol of conquest, and nobody dared to correct the situation. Guess we are a nation of wimps!! Uneducated and undeserving, and hamstrung by liberal’s laws.

          • Jana

            We have become a nation of Lefties, and must follow political correctness and not hurt anyones feelings. PHOOEY!
            We have awakened to the dangers of letting this continue. These lefties stand for nothing and are falling for everything. If we left our country in their hands we won’t have a country for long.
            Time for the Truth to come out and for the rest of us to stand up and be counted.
            They have always counted on us shutting up and being submissive. We have found our voice, we have found our courage and we are going to get our country back to where it should be!

    • http://www.facebook.com Michael Owens

      I am sick of watching the Muslim beheading people, hanging killing little children for nothing. Time for We the People to Stand and Fight for our Rights! America we are Free for now! How much longer if we put up with Islam in America.

      Who is Allah?

      http://www.raptureready.com/soap/baker11.html

    • Bandit

      I say if these maslams want a war lets give them one. I mean they are so hell bent the destruction then they need to be taught a lesson, and that being that we are not so easy to get rid of. Look what to Japan during WWII they where taught a lesson so why can’t we do the same thing to the maslams after all they are just people like any one else. And yes they are invading this country just like a cancer invades the body. we need to wipe this cancer called muslam out of our country. So I guess that I do agree with John.

      • Karolyn

        It’s always a man who says “Let’s Kill’em all.” Violence solves nothing but does create more violence, never mind the lives lost.

        • http://0 phillip davis

          shut your stupid pie hole you liberal douche bag you and your like thinkers make me sick.go nut nuzzle obama’s sack he is the leader of the muzzies i bet you love obama and think he is doing a great job,pull your head out of the groin of obama and get a real clue muslims or islam dont like you they will kill you if you dont believe obama is a muslim,he was born barry saratoro became a muzzie barack hussien obama just like cassius clay became mahammad ali the boxer remember he became a muzzie to stay out of the vietnam war

          • Karolyn

            My, my Phillip, aren’t we articulate today. When somebody truly believes what they say, they don’t need to be defensive (or offensive).

        • http://MSM.com LeRoy

          If you just set here on your hands and let someone take over-how many lives do you think will be lost them and that is just what is happening withthese Muslims.!

        • Woody
      • Larry Owens

        YEP, they are a bunch of COWARDS that terrorize and kill people by ambush and threats.

        Lets take America back from them and the establishment.

      • Lewis Munn

        Bandit,

        We taught Japan their lesson only when we nuked them, destroying two complete cities with 2 modest bombs.

        They capitulated to an overwhelming force we brought.

        Now-a-days, most of the other side has the same things, and we are not willing to sacrifice our people and cities anymore for the right for freedom, or to bomb civilians in other countries into radioactive gases. Even to save the rest of our nation and the remaining parts of the world. Dishonor is preferable to immediate death.

        And being a living quisling a while longer to immediate clean death defending our country’s territory and honor.

        So sad.

        We are divided and not fanatical like the Muslims are.

    • HFlashman

      I’m fed up with “moderate” christians not standing up to the radical Talibanisc elements of the christian movement. I’m fed up with the whining cowards of the Right who put this Nation in the situation it is in today, and take no responsibility and foist the blame onto others. I’m fed up with people who whine, complain and say ‘no’..and offer no solutions other than unrealistic rantings based on 7th grade understanding of the Constitution and economics. I’m fed up with rolling up my sleeves working to help those who love this contry get back on its feet…and hearing nothing but complaints, insults, derogatory remarks, and cowardly statements from the Right.

      Fed up? Yep. Issue is, you have no reson for being fed up…YOU created it.

      • Rebel44

        HFlash Gordon= Antidisestablishmentarinism

      • S.C.Murf

        if you are so fed up then move, lots of space in Iran

      • Bruce D.

        HFlashman, you have made it very clear you side with Marxist and Muslims. Same as Obama. We get it. Why do you seem so frustrated that the rest of us do not. You have chosen your side and we have chosen ours. We say no to Marxist and Muslims. The people of “no” who support the party of “no” as long as they keep sayin “no”.

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        RELAX,HFLasHMAN,this is a posting site,please take your BUSPAR and chill out.this is not a war zone yet,until the crazies come for my bible and guns.LONG LIVE (THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,”SO HELP ME GOD”.

      • dan az

        hey flash
        reread what you just wrote and tell me how you dont fit your rant!

    • slickporsche

      There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If their cleric tells them to start killing blonde haired blue eyed caucasians , that is what they will do.Do you think there is a secret gene pool of bad Muslims that are used to replace the ones we kill. Get a grip they are all bad. The only thing we can do about it is to overthrow our useless government and start over, and then get rid of the garbage.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Oooops! Typo….the “than our country”…….should be “than other countries”. Well….just to correct before the “typo” police show up.

  • Jana

    we definitely have a problem here. It isn’t just Obama that is soft on Islam, it is just about any American person that has fallen for the politically correct dogma that has been forced down our throat. Bush was soft on Islam and so are many Christian pastors and parishioners as well as main stream America, that falsely think that this is a religion of peace.
    These are truly dangersous people and their intentions are evil toward any person that does not adhere to THEIR BELIEFS and THEIR WAYS. They intend to force themselves into every aspect of our lives and rule us. We must put a stop to it now, before it gets out of hand.

    • Michael J.

      Jana,
      You have hit the proverbial nail on the head when you mentioned political correctness. If you don’t already know, search and read the origins of “Political Correctness”. This supposedly benign favorite of all favorite liberal cliches was actually designed with sinister intent to hasten the fruition of communism.

    • Gene

      Jana,
      I agree with you whole heartly. If we don’t take a stand now, it will be too late. We will secum to the Muslim world.

      To start with, we need to get rid of the dam Muslim in office and all the other idiots in Washington that are too stupid to see what is happening to our country as well as the rest of the world.

    • Terry

      I feel all muslims should considered enemies of the state they will not denounce the actions of the radicals, how ever their mouths is an open sepulcher, with their tongues used deceit, the poison of asp is under their lips, whose mouthes is full of cursing and bitterness; their feet are swift to shed blood; disturction and misery are in their ways; the way of peace hav they not known; ther is no faer of God in their eyes. romans 4:13. be of good cheer, Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail.

    • Karolyn

      If you have not had a dialogue with Muslims, you really know nothing of them other than what you hear and read. I can say the same for myself, but at least I’m willing to listen to all sides. You want to make things worse in this country? Just keep thinking the way you do. Hate begets hate, violence begets violence and love, giving and understanding beget love, giving and understanding.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        I have had many dialogues with Muslims. I also study the Qur’an and the Sura’s. I am very aware of what I speak.
        The people themselves seem like very nice people, just like you seem like a very nice person.The Muslims and I just as you and I do not agree on ideologies, but Islam has a very evil intent.
        I have to go right now but I will be back tonight to talk some more, I am already running late for an appointment.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You sound like a wolf in sheeps clothing. When they are stoning you for nothing having your hands and feet cut off to. Go with them when we send them packing.

      • Right Wing

        Karolyn consider applying this logic to Polar bears. Why don’t you go to the nearest zoo, climb the fence and try to hug one. I am sure they are just as cuddly and kind as the Coca-Cola commercials led you to believe. In a few days they will find your Lenin style glasses and Bono fan club card in a big pile of bear crap.

        • Viktor Leben

          Hey Mr. Know it all,

          I thought Hitler was dead, now we have his clone ! Sieg Hiel Mr. Right Wing !

          Hey, You like picking on women ! You know what your problem is ? You went to the zoo to be with your baboon lover. She ripped your balls off and that’s why spew crap from your mouth ..

          • Right Wing

            You apparently fall into the same vein as Kremlin Karolyn. The bait and taunt routine. Apparently you were serious when you decided to threaten a soldier with your “frag’n” comment. I’m going to go ahead and avoid the Christmas rush and start loathing you now. Keep skulking around this site spouting your nonsense Vic. You are hereby relegated to the ineffectual mass of liberal, multicultural nut bags that stand for nothing and consequently fall for anything. Have a nice trip…see you next fall.

          • Jana

            Vikto,
            You have become a total GARBAGE MOUTH. you have declined further and further. Are you on drugs?

          • Viktor Leben

            Hey Right Wing,

            Wasn’t your car parked outside the Blue Oyster ? Mr. girly mouth, you better get those teeth checked – where’s that mouth been ? Hey, didn’t I see you on the news with Barney Franks ?

            I’ve just been to the “Kremlin” – I left you a Christmas present Ahole..

          • Viktor Leben

            Jana,

            Sorry if I offended you. I get this way sometimes.

            Hey – The veterans are just laughing, don’t worry about it. I’m sure the MSGT could heckle me back 100 times better … nothing serious Jana ! Just having fun !

            Wow, that “Right Wing” sure takes things to serious ! He has some good comments … He needs to loosen up !

          • Right Wing

            Vic I take my freedoms very seriously. I know many people who fought in, relatives who died in, were disabled in, lost there faculties because of, the wars. Anyone who has known a soldier and heard their stories or even thought of the sacrifices they laid on the alter of OUR freedom would be ashamed to call themselves an American if they disrespected these…OUR…heroes.

            Subsequently any American that picks up the torch dropped by Benedict Arnold deserves to be burned by it. This type of American is like a raccoon…craps on one side of the log and sleeps on the other. Consequently most raccoons carry distemper because of it…just like the liberal multiculturalists who embrace any culture without consideration to the facts they may be rife with distemper. I do not promote racial or cultural hatred…just caution. There is overwhelming evidence of cultural hatred and an unbending religious/political dogma associated with Islam. An enemy of the freedoms fought and won with the blood of my friends and family is worth preserving in the same fashion despite what the pansy liberals wish to classify as racist, murderous, nazi, confederate, biggoted, etc. What you weak minded and morally misguided government babies don’t get is that there are still people in this country who are willing to fight for all of OUR freedoms despite your candy-ass bitching and moaning. All your whining does is erode the effectiveness of our abilities to soldier because you cry foul at every facet of war you can not stomach. You can’t handle the truth.

          • Viktor Leben

            Right Wing,

            You’re just wrapping yourself in the flag so you can get laid… Right ?

    • slickporsche

      I am with you, where and when do you want to start. A solid plan needs to be developed. SOON!

  • s c

    The Muslim faith and Christianity do share some common features. However, people need to realize that while media whores and anti-religious zealots continue to single out Christians as ‘dangerous,’ I’m not aware of any ‘Christian’ church or group that demands that others convert to Christianity or be decapitated.
    And, I’m not aware of any Christian group or church that uses pc techniques to muzzle their members. The Muslim ‘silent majority’ will eventually pay a high price for not standing up to their paranoid peers.
    If push comes to shove, Muslims risk much more than having their delicate sensibilities offended if they think Christians will bow to the whims of Muslims who claim mortal infallibility. There are no omniscient mortals, and no mortal can claim infallibility. Period.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      SC-
      I think Islam is “different” enough to atheists and anti-religious Americans that they equivocate about it. They don’t think of it as an obstacle to their “freedom from religion”. And they lump Muslims in with those oppressed by U.S. imperialism. We haven’t forgotten the media publishing sensitive information several times in the last few years that endangered troops and led to some injuries and/or deaths. But of course they view everything right-side up that we see upside-down.

      • Bill

        U.S. imperalism. That’s funny. If the United States is so bad then please inform the leaders of other countries to stop calling on the U.S. everytime they get their butts stuck in a crack. The United States has done more to help other countries around the world than any other country. They have poured out trillions of dollars to help other countries, thousands of Americans have died on the foreign battlefields to secure freedom for other countries when their leaders called for it. America has watched as thousands of so called men in foreign countries cowarded in terror at the thought they might have to pick-up a weapon and defend themselves. So please, do some research before putting your foot in your mouth.

        • slickporsche

          Bill I agree with you but you need to change one work in your post.
          “They” We have poured out trillions of dollars to help other countries. I changed “they” to WE meaning We the tax payers and US citizens. I am sure that is what you meant.

        • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

          Did I need to put quotes around “U.S. Imperialism” so you understood that the term refers to the liberal worldview? Seeing the U.S. through an Imperialist lens is the basis of Obama’s worldwide apologies and the worldview of liberals and the U.N. (which we should stop subsidizing). This goes hand in hand with “white guilt”. People who harbor these neuroses also tend to disparage the military and the police.

    • Conservative at Birth

      There is no Muslim silent majority. It is a military cult. I have only read two books on the subject and many excerpts from the Quron. In my opinion it cannot be called a peaceful religion. I will be ready for the war with Islam in my back yard.

      • dan az

        consevative you and me both!

  • http://www.ae911truth.org republic4all

    Dr. Alen Sabrosky, Dr. David Chandler, Dr. Shlomo Sands, Dr July Woods.

    The above are the names of but a few unquestionably qualified minds that represent THOUSANDS of equally qualified professionals that declare” All of this islamophobia has been created by design as a smokescreen ”
    What is being hidden in plain view? We have NOTHING to fear from muslims and everything to fear from neo-con zionist agendas that have infiltrated our government for the benefit of zionist agendas.

    My fellow Americans, we have been massively deceived and it is time to awaken from our national stupper.

    For every islamic negative the are equal amounts of the same negatives in every other holy book. Do not fall for this ages old false flag op.

    To wake up, we as a country must ask ourselves? What brought down WTC7 on 9/11? Why did this 47 story skyscraper suddenly collapse without the laws of physics supporting the official NIST cause? Answer this without politics in the way.. then follow the money… then identify the truth THEN lets talk about expelling from our country all of those the an America Second agenda.

    republic4all

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The problem for you is:

      Actions such as… stonings, beheadings, subjegation of women, killing unbelievers, and educating young muslims to hate the United States…all speak louder than your words.

      • David

        That’s correct. This country was founded on judeo-christian values. A single country can not support multi-cultures. Obviously….look around. We will not bow down and for every tea party member you see out there; there are thousands of true Americans that side with them. When the time comes we will not just hand over our country.

        • Karolyn

          Why can’t a single country the size of the US not support multi-cultures? It always has before.

          • Robert Wayne

            Because those other “cultures” like the raghead muslims and the invading wetbacks from Mexico are here to destroy this country and those of us who were here before them. Only you retarded liberal fools think we can all live together. Well, we can’t. It’s impossible. You’re either on their side, which it’s obvious YOU are, or you’re on the side of Americans.

          • Joyce from Loris

            No, it hasn’t.

          • Viktor Leben

            Hey Robert Wayne,

            I’ll stick to the American side, your side can go to H, E, double toothpicks !

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            Karolyn-

            Americans are fine with other cultures when they play for the home team and assimilate. When they try to remake the country in their image, you have the problems we are discussing. Unfortunately, there are too many people who use the gift of being an American to kick America in the face.

          • Karolyn

            Allan – When the Eastern Europeans came here in the early 20th century, they did not assimilate very well. They had their own communities and built their own churches. Yes, eventually, they did assimilate, but my grandmother never learned how to speak English. And she never did because she lived around all Polish people and my father and his brothers all spoke Polish. Yes, after a while, they did blend in, but some of those communities still exist in cities like New York.

          • Jana

            But karolyn,
            Your grandmother’s community was not trying to make us change to be like them. They did not threaten to destroy us or take us over.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are right. The person that thinks we are just yelling wolf just have their haeds in the sand or they are trying to distract the people so these muslims can get a better foot hold in this country! The thing they do every day tells me who they realy are. Who would teach their kids that they are to hate everyone that don’t believe the way they do and teach them to blow up a bunch of people and they will be rewarded.

    • http://personalliberty.com bruce

      You may all have Dr. after your names but you are obviosliy not too bright first the world trade center towers were 107 stories tall not 47 stories tall and second the reason the towers fell was because the planes that were hijacked were selected because they would have a full load of jet fuel on board and therefore do the most damage. The towers fell because the steel skeleton melted due to the fact that jet fuel burns at a very high temperature once the steel stared to melt gravity did the rest and the reason WTC7 fell is that the towers kind of fell on it it did not fall the same way that the twin towers fell.
      So pull your heads out of you collective A**es and wake up to the fact that True ardent believers of the Muslim faith want to kill all non believers!! and subvert all to sharia law.
      One more thing all you female doctors would never be allowed to become doctors in a Muslim controlled society!

      • Karolyn

        That is not true in many Muslim countries. Women doctors, politicians and business people are seen on the news every day. You can’t keep a good woman down.

        • http://MSM.com LeRoy

          No you can’t keep a good woman down but you can be killed if your husban dies and you start seeing another man.

          • Karolyn

            You also can slapped down in the good ole boy state of South Carolina. SC has one of the highest if not the highest rates of domestic violence in the country; and what’s worse is that small time cops in little towns don’t even enforce the law. The just look the other way in support of their lowlife good ole’ boys.

          • Karolyn

            And, you know, it’s all because of MEN!- As are all the troubles of the world.

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            I am sorry if you have had some bad experiences with men. Not all men are bad, just like not all Muslims are bad. Individually they are nice people just misguided.
            I was very fortunate that I found a wonderful man that I have great respect for and he for me. My precious husband. We have both found that if we give 100% we can never outgive each other.
            Sometimes when we work around that atmosphere, we think that is all thats out there. But it isn’t so.

          • Karolyn

            But, Jana, don’t you feel that if women ruled the world, it would be a much better place?

          • Jana

            No Karolyn, I don’t. It wouldn’t be any different.

          • Claire

            Jana–You are correct. It wouldn’t be any different.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – there was a time a few years back – maybe several years back that I would have thought differently but I believe you and Jana are probably correct.

    • e. nies

      You may be educated(all the Dr’s) but your writing is so convoluted that it is at best difficult to understand (Yes, I am well educated with more course work than you, probably. The message I get is the usual liberal drivel that emulates what our fearless, bow down to Arabs is doing. Wake up and smell the coffee!!

    • S.C.Murf

      Our Christian Bible, that was written how many years ago?, talks about the muslims are coming. Lowell Lundstrom, a preacher from Siseton S.D. wrote a book some 25 years ago, took info right from the bible, titled it The Muslims are coming The Muslims are coming. You should read this, its what Jesus said, not man. It might open your eyes, but then again most likely not since your mind is already made up and your heart is hardened.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The problem for you is:

      Actions such as… stonings, beheadings, subjegation of women, killing unbelievers, and educating US muslim students to hate the United States…all speak louder than your words.

    • Bruce D.

      republic4all,

      ” All of this islamophobia has been created by design as a smokescreen ”
      What is being hidden in plain view? We have NOTHING to fear from muslims…

      republic4all, what planet do you live on? Even in the South of Thailand above Maylasia Muslims have killed over 4,000 Thais since 2004. They want to impose Sharia Law in the area and are willing to kill school children to do it because the school system does not embrace their culture. They are averaging one kill a day at this time.

    • Artie

      Not just WTC7!! All three WTC buildings fell at near freefall speed, which, if you understand the laws of physics, is only possible if there is no resistance below. Those buildings fell in 10 seconds, 8 seconds and WTC7, 6.6 seconds. The laws of physics do not lie!! The only rationale conclusion is that these building were felled by controlled demolitions. There is no other possible way for these buildings to have fallen at near freefall speed. It is that simple!! 9/11 was an inside job!! You can’t get around the laws of physics!! Nevermind the nanothermite residue found in the dust of all three, completely pulverized buildings. That is just the icing on the cake. Why has there not been a new investigation? What is the gov’t frightened of? Regarding the intolerance toward’s Islam, this country didn’t have it prior to 9/11. You are simply indicting an entire religion over the alleged actions of a few. Every religion has a radical element! And there is plenty of violence in the Old Testament, as well as the Quran! People need to start exercising their brains instead of being fed propaganda from the mainstream media. BTW, did anyone ever wonder why the Florida preacher made international headlines?? Weren’t his planned actions dangerous to national security and for the troops in the Middle East? And yet, the elite’s, who own the mainstream media, greenlighted this story. They wanted it out there, to remind America of the awful terrorist’s. This was pure and simple, a Psyop!!

      • Craig

        Wow another idiot twoofer regurgitating ignorance. None of the buildings broke any laws of physics. and no they did not fall at freefall speeds.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4&feature=related

        • Artie

          You know what? Somewhere in your misguided mind, people who are seeking out the truth, “truther’s” as you put it, are denigrated for asking questions! How do you explain 2 110 story buildings being reduced to dust in 8 seconds flat? What is it about the fact that the buildings fell too fast that escapes your mind? If we are “truther’s” then I guess we will have to label you as “ignoramuses”! Since when is getting at the truth, a repugnant thing to do? The two main towers fell in 8 seconds and 10 seconds! Those are facts!! How long would it take a tennis ball, dropped off the roof of one of those towers, to hit the ground? Approximately 8 seconds. Did that tennis ball meet any resistance except air? No!! Stop denying the obvious and open your eyes!! Better yet, you explain to me how tons of physical mass can just collapse to the ground in 8 seconds, leaving only dust and steel beams! Pancake theory, as the gov’t says? Would have taken over a minute, you would have had about a 110 foot pile of floors stacked upon each other and the steel inner framework would have remained standing! But you got all the answers right? You don’t see it because you don’t want to see it!!

          • Gene

            Atie,
            What is the point you’re trying to make.

          • Gene

            Artie,
            Sorry for misspelling your name.

          • Right Wing

            Artie there is plenty of factual information which refutes the physics logic you are leaning on. In fact if the “facts” you are leaning on are all that supports you conclusion then your point just collapsed at free fall speed. Maybe you are another Luddite or Doc Sarvis but your point is not so salient; especially if you are trying to support some sort of persecution of “innocent” Muslims.

          • Craig

            Those idiot twoofers are not seeking any truth. They are too stupid to find it if sat on their face. Your facts are wrong. Those buildings were not reduced to dust. Millions of tons of debris had to be trucked out. It did not take 8 seconds for those building to fall. That is physically impossible. 9.22 seconds is the freefall speed for those buildings. The actual times were closer to 15 and 22 seconds. So you are doing nothing but repeating ignorant lies from the twoofer morons. You twoofer like to pretend you are doing some great honorable thing by asking questions. But when you questions are analyzed it is clear you are too ignorant to understand the facts. Every single claim you retards come up with has been debunked.

        • Artie

          BTW, I watched your Youtube video! Three different sources, three different times for collapse. And this is supposed to DEBUNK this? Note, I said NEAR freefall speed, not freefall speed. And still, the buildings would have taken over a minute to fall, using the pancake theory! You just debunked your own source!! You can throw alot of, in the neighborhood of near freefall speed at me, but even with your sources numbers, it is still impossible!! When a building pancakes, there is a momentary pause at EACH FLOOR, as the energy collapses each individual floor. You cannot have your pancake and eat it too! It is impossible to have a pancake effect along with totally pulverized concrete!! You are arguing with the laws of physics, which don’t lie!! I rest my case!!

          • mark

            The world trade centres did not pancake as they were way too heavy for that to happen, your imagining a small block of units with not much weight but 107 stories of solid concrete helps.
            Dont take a job building bridges

          • Michael J.

            Artie,
            I’m not going to call you the “T” word because it obviously affends you however,the logistics of what you propose is impossible. It takes months to prep a building, let alone three buildings the size of the towers and building #7. You must first expose multiple steel girders on all floors which are buried behind drywall, concrete, electrical conduit, A/C duct work and a myriad of other obstacles. Jack hammers, circular saws, cutting torches and other noisy tools. Debri must be removed by a small army of sweaty, hard hat wearing construction workers pushing wheel barrows on a road built of Thermoply or cardboard site protection materials to the awaiting dumpster. And you think nobody would notice this going on?

            Add to that the fact that fireproof coating was removed from the steel girders by the impact of the plane. Also consider that jet fuel burns at 2000 degrees while steel melts at 1700 degrees and you have the recipe for what we all watched on TV.

            Having said all this, I will add that you also have the inalienable right to beleive that Bush piloted one plane while Cheney piloted the other and both parachuted to safety just prior to impact and Armstrong and Aldren really landed on a movie set in Arizona.

          • Craig

            You twoofers idiotic claims have been debunked for years, fool. You liked and said they fell in 8 seconds. NEAR freefall can mean 15 and 22 seconds. So by definition the towers could have collapsed at near freefall speeds. That video just shows how ignorant you twoofers are. You moron have no clue of the science you try to use to make you all sound like you know more than you do, which is jack. As far as you impossible pancaking, you have no clue what so ever. Your idiotic assertion that there is a momentary pause is meaningless. How much is momentary? And with each floor collapsing it as weight to the next, so on and so on…etc. Thereby reducing your momentary. you see you are too stupid to even know what you are talking about. You just regurgitate words you heard from other idiot twoofers. You do not have the brains to understand the science behind what you are trying (failing miserably I might add) to rail against. Got news for you, idiot, the laws of physics are not on your side, and I hope you are not a lawyer because you can’t even get a good case started let alone win one.

          • Viktor Leben

            Show me the math …

        • Karolyn

          Did you not see the way they fell?

      • Conservative at Birth

        Ignorance is bliss.

      • Danny Buckles

        Artie you are either a muslim or the bigest idiot I have ever witnessed in my life.

        • Artie

          I would expect such a response from you! My point is very simple! You people don’t have the intelligence to understand the science of physics. You all sound like a bunch of redneck’s who just follow the crowd! Most of you can’t spell simple words. BTW, the south “seceded” from the Union, not “succeeded”!! You are full of hate and you blindly follow the government dictates, no questions asked!

          The point that I am trying to impress upon your closed mind’s is that the evidence at ground zero proves that the WTC Tower’s and WTC7 were controlled demolition’s! You totally discredit the laws of physics and you refuse to even affirm that there was both deposits of nanothermite and the fingerprint of burned nanothermite element’s in the dust of all three WTC buildings that fell to the ground in mere seconds! The speed of the building collapses proves controlled demolitions and the evidence in the dust proves that nanothermite was in all three of those buildings. But, you all are so hell bent on blaming Muslim’s, the gov’t patsies for 9/11, that you can’t even see the evidence that is right before your very eyes. With the exception of a few people here, most of you are intolerant hater’s with backwood’s mentality! You are probably amongst the crowd of idiots that are shouting “Bomb Iran!!!”. You guys ignore evidence and have a heard mentality! You are bandwagon jumper’s because you don’t have the intellectual skills to think for yourselves. You are follower’s, not leader’s! You have an inability to recognize consequences for your own action’s! So you all think that these wars are so glorious, why don’t you get off your safe little couches and put your money where your mouth is. You agree with these war’s, based upon lies and deceit? Fine, you talk the talk, let’s see you walk the walk! Go enlist in the Army and put your lives on the line. Or better yet, send your kids or your grandkid’s over there to fight for your “moral” war’s! You are small minded, unintelligent, stupid people who wouldn’t stray from your own warped beliefs, based upon hate and lies, if the truth was hanging right before your very eyes. You are like owls, the more light that is shined on you, the less you see!! It is people like you who are going to destroy this country, not people who follow a different religion than you. A religion that you probably don’t even have a clue about. You just hear whatever your you are told to believe and then parrot whatever they say! You have no critical thinking skills, just follow the crowd!! What do I have? I have hard evidence and science to back up my assertions about 9/11! You have propaganda, which you blindly accept, no questions asked! There is a term for people like you. That term is “sheople”!! Follow the leader, don’t ask questions, don’t do research, don’t look at the evidence! And yes, this is coming right from the mouth of you people deride as a “truther”, or in your uneducated minds, a “twoofer”! It’s amazing how you can denigrate a group of people who are actually trying to get to the TRUTH! Yes I am a seeker of the truth! I do my homework, I do my research, I look at the evidence and postulate my own opinion based on that evidence! If that is something to be ashamed of, then I stand guilty as charged! Did it ever occur to any of you that the government lies, on a regular basis? You attempt to debunk solid scientific evidence because it doesn’t suit your own agenda’s. Agenda’s that really aren’t your own, but rather, the agenda’s of the people that you follow! One of you tried to debunk the physic’s of the tower collapses, with a Youtube video. All he managed to do was debunk his own source. But don’t worry, we have you covered. We will make sure that you all keep sight of your shepherd’s as they lead you to slaughter!! Debunk that!!

          • slickporsche

            It seems to me you are another conspiracy nut case. DId you ever think that if it was brought down using demolition techniques, that the Muslims could still be behind it?? WHy do you want so badly, to believe it was your own government, that did this awful deed?

            You know what Artie? I think the truth is that you are confined to a rubber room and allowed to get out and use the computer once a week, in a secure area of the facility you are locked up in. They allow this if you behave and take all your meds without a fight. This must be the real truth.

          • BeCoolArtie

            Hey, man. I agree with you, but don’t lose your cool. Remember, and you said it, they suffer a herd mentality. (Not heard, okay?) Like, man, the’re a bunch of cows.

          • Craig

            “I would expect such a response from you! My point is very simple! You people don’t have the intelligence to understand the science of physics.”

            This coming from someone who has at best a remedial understanding of physics. Got news for Beavis, you learned your physics from other twoofers, and they know absolutely nothing about it beyond how to spell it.

          • Artie

            @BeCoolArtie — Yes, herd is the correct spelling. I just caught that typo myself when I re-read this today! Gives you an idea of how frustrated i am at these hater’s! I have just reached a point of complete and utter disgust at the level of hate that is being spewed on this thread.

            These people are so full of hate that they can’t see the obvious! Most of you people claim to be Christian’s, yet you preach hate and intolerance. Christianity is not a “church”, it is a relationship between you, God and Jesus. You denigrate and stand in judgment of a religion that you were taught to hate. Being a Christian is a 24/7 proposition, not a selective mindset that you can turn off and on at your whim. Christian’s do not hate! But I am not going to go off on a dissertation about what Christianity is all about. If you are claiming to be Christian’s, then I suggest that you look in the mirror and ask yourselves, “Am I acting in a Christian manner?”

            @SlickPorsche — You said “It seems to me you are another conspiracy nut case. DId you ever think that if it was brought down using demolition techniques, that the Muslims could still be behind it?? WHy do you want so badly, to believe it was your own government, that did this awful deed?”

            First of all, you start out, as usual, with the worn out tactic of calling me a “conspiracy nutcase”! Wow, how original and unexpected!! But then you, apparently, incorporate my conclusion of controlled demolitions, probably because it makes sense to you, but you then postulate that the Muslim’s could have demolished the buildings! Do you have any idea of which agencies had offices in WTC7? WTC7 housed offices of FBI, Department of Defense, IRS, US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission, Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions. Are you going to tell me that Muslim terrorist’s were able to sneak into this very secure building, and plant explosives? As a matter of fact, you can not obtain nanothermite on the street. It is only in the hand’s of the military! You really give alot of credit to these alleged hijacker’s. They, reportedly, could not even fly a Cessna, but could pull off amazing stunts in a 757, they can gain access to nanothermite and then breech security in all three WTC buildings that fell! Yeah, these guys sure were accomplished at so many things that they had no experience with!

            I am not going to waste any more of my time talking to you people because you don’t have the intellect or intelligence to think for yourselves. No one is going to change your mind’s so go ahead and spew your rhetoric!! I have better things to do with my time!

          • Viktor Leben

            Probably a combination of explosives on the airliner and charges set in the building. The high temperatures suggest a self contained firestorm in the epicenter of WTC tower 1 & 2 causing thermionic degradation of the structural steel welds -aka the explosions ….

            You can’t explain the physics with conventional means. This was a physical phenomena that defies precise explanation – until enough of the facts are in. But their is enough evidence to suggest that “9-11 was an inside job” …

            The aircraft had explosives in them, plus the fuel …..

            Positive arc traveling thru a crystalline structure will cause an explosion … aka the steel welds exploding …

            Pulverized concrete suggest pre set explosives …..

            It was an inside job ….

          • Viktor Leben

            They used a small tactical nuke on each of the WTC towers. Probably less than a kiloton …Blast specific .. low gamma radiation. Did anybody test the structural steel for radiation exposure ?

          • libertytrain

            Well if it was an “inside” job why couldn’t it have been possible that there were more terrorists setting the charges inside the building(s) and airport workers who were also terrorists placing bombs in all the planes – if your theory is that there were additional explosives/bombs in both the buildings and planes, and for that matter the other buildings that went down that some here claim only went down because they too had explosives in them —- Perhaps these terrorists were looking for a bigger punch than just the World Trade Towers -

      • Troy

        I think you need to look in the mirror. You lay in the bed of propaganda. Have you come to these conclusions or are you spewing someone elses theroies about what happened; maybe Micheal Moores. Have you ever done and physics research. I highly question that idea. Bye the way, the Main Stream Media had the story of the preacher wide open because they have an agenda to prove to everyone that the Christian believer is wacko or something. I will be the first to say that that preacher’s ploy was stupid. However, like not all Muslims are the radicals, he does not represent all Christians. The point is you see all over the world, if you take your head out of the sand, the Muslims are using force to conquer societies. They start out with peaceful gathering, usually, but at some point their mullas who hold radical views come in and motivate those hardline believers to step out of peaceful measures into voilent force to subject others who are non-believers of their faith; once they see that their numbers (population) large enough to fill safe. This is something that their religion teaches as well. I am all for peaceful standing with anyone who projects a true stance of peace, but it does not look to me like peace is the cause. They have stated over and over again that their goal is to place the whole world unde the rule of Islam. Populate by through peaceful measure then subjugate by force. I have little pitty for people like you who have their head so far in the sand that they are blinded by propaganda of political correctness and esponse to others to wake up from propaganda. Look in the mirror my friend.

        • Karolyn

          “They, they, they” Who is this ubiquitous “they”.

          • Troy

            The first they was referring to the Media, which was stated in the sentence preceeding it. The second they refers to who I was talking about in its previous sentenses; the Muslims. And the third they again belongs to the Muslims who I have continued writing about. How did you miss that? It was clearly wrote. Or were you just trying to prod at me?

          • Karolyn

            Troy – You miss my point, which is you cannot generalize about much of anything and group everybody into “they.”

      • Troy

        Here is another thought for you. What is it that people are so dismissive of any Anecdote, Theory, or Opinion, as being anything but truth simply because the person(s) espousing the message has a title or Dr, Specialist, or Expert in front of their name. People have been for too long subjected to crap by that very measure. Our society was its strongest when people actually researched for their own conclusions rather than just taking the work of someone who is supposed to be more educated. What a zombie way to live. The last few generations of American society have produced way too many zombies. It is time for you, and all others who live this way to wake up. Different subject but for all you out their who speak of being a Christian believer and then live like non-believers. I would rather you just kept your mouths shut because you are a poor example of the image of Christ which is exactly what you are supposed to project as a believer. That is why so many people who turn their noses to the Christian Faith. Why would anyone want to be a part of any Hipocriticle group of individuals. For those who do not like the Christian Faith, meat a person who walks the walk rather than talks the talk and then make your decision. None are perfect, but there are too many who have it way off.

        • Karolyn

          What about the people here who don’t want to even listen or hear if there are letters after somebody’s name. What’s up with that?

          • Jana

            Karolyn, Go back and read the guy’s post that stated that all of these Dr. Somebody’s had proved his point. Then you will know what was being talked about.

          • Karolyn

            No, Jana, I got what he said. I’m just saying that just BECAUSE somebody has a ph.d. or whatever is no reason NOT to hear him out. I’m all for self-education.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are a muslim lover and should go back under the rock you came from. Do you think these plans were run into the twin towers by Americans? Muslims are the ones that think they will be rewarded if they kill a bunch of people along with themselves- American people don’t think that way-do you?

      • slickporsche

        You are simply a frikken nut case and should think before you open your yap. I watched it all live on TV and I can say it did not happen that quickly. If you take a look at the construction of those towers, you can see what would happen, if you destroyed one of the upper floors. I rememeber it like it was yesterday, and one floor was burning and finally fell to the floor beneath it, and nothing happened immediatly. It took a little time for the temperature to build and start another floor to weaken and then as it went it fell to the next, and accelerated as it went to the ground. Of course you should also know that in Malaysia, there is two more buildings from the same architect and built the same. Now do you think it possible that those two towers could have been heavily inspected by Muslim engineers and a way found to bring them down. After all, Malaysia is a Muslim country. You should convert to Islam and then we will have a really good reason to kill you.

      • Lewis Munn

        Artie…where did you learn religion?

        The “Old Testament” is mostly the history of the Jews, and an abbreviated history leading up to them. It is NOT Christianity. Tho it supports Christianity in how it developed, and showed that the Jews are quick to forget God!

        Christianity starts with the Birth of Jesus, and especially encompasses His life, and His teachings, and the amplifications and revelations of the future in the New Testament, so we know what will be happening when it comes. It tells of the world having tossed Christianity out, and how bad it gets then.

        I do get very very tired of people expounding on Christianity who have no idea what it is, is not, and encompasses. Just like folks who have not dipped into the Qur’an, or read history, so talk so learnedly of what they know not!

        I am always amazed of the women who think a beating with a rod the size of the man’s thumb is gentle chastisement! It is so gentle it can easily kill!

        But in Islaam, the woman is much less than the man. Her job is to pleasure him and raise the kids. And he can kick her out for any or no reason, in many areas. Funny so many women think Islaam is a good, easy life.

    • Jerry D

      What planet are you from?

    • Stevo

      –, you anti semite piece of —.

      • Karolyn

        What’s the different between anti-semite and anti-muslim? They both signify ignorance.

        • Michael J.

          Karolyn,
          Indeed, synonymous with anti-American I suppose.

        • http://MSM.com LeRoy

          Karolyn- Like the rest of these anti-American people go back to a muslim country where you came from!!!

        • slickporsche

          Karolyn you are anti-american and should be booted from this country and sent to a Muslim hell hole.

          • Karolyn

            Just because I disagree with you. Such a shame that there are so many of you in this country. I’m happy to live in the woods and not be directly subjected to the deranged thinking I see here.

          • Viktor Leben

            Hey Karolyn,

            The liberals and conservatives are from the same cloth. Do you see ? They both hate …

            It will all end when the baby boomers die off. Never has their been a more evil generation in American history …

            My apologies Karolyn to assume you would agree with me, maybe someday. I’m glad to read your comments, don’t ever stop being tolerant …

          • Karolyn

            Victor – I’m not spouting the same vitriol that I get from many of these foul-mouthed people. Unfortunately, some people bring out the worst in a person. I don’t hate anybody. Actually, I feel sorry for anybody who has to go around carrying so much baggage day in day out. For myself, I don’t like the way anger and hatred feels. As a matter of fact, I have never hated anybody in my whole life. And I am a baby-boomer. It would be interesting to find out the ages of the posters. I was enlightened during the 70s, and I know many who are just like me. We’re not all intolerant and ignorant. (And there’s nothing wrong with using the word ignorant. It just implies they don’t know any better.)

        • Viktor Leben

          Karolyn,

          Being anti-arab is also anti-semitic … you hit it right on the nose !

    • Craig

      Republic4all is a twoofer? That right there proves you are a nutter.

    • Conservative at Birth

      There have been numerous television programs refuting the claims made by the 9/11 Truthers. On that tuesday morning my wife was watching the live broadcast which had suggested a small plane had crashed into the first tower. I said that it had to be a large jet as there was too much fuel. Then I saw the second large jet crash into the second tower. I told my wife that both of those buildins would fall. Just exactly what do you think you know about physics.

    • Reno Rick

      You say you 4 are doctors!! Doctor’s of what? Certainly not drs of academia–your grammer is horrible. Maybe drs of Theology?? Probably not, you don’t write as though you have any intelligent grasp of religion. And most definitly not drs of Science or Medicine. So drs, what is your specialty? Maybe its stupidity!!!! I tell people all the time “I can live with or near a Muslim and not have a problem with their religion, however, they can not and will not live near me if I practice my Christian religion”. So drs tell me, who are the radicals here?

      • Karolyn

        I know people who live next to Muslims and are very good friends.

        • Michael J.

          Karolyn,
          And because they are friends, each day after work they would beheaded next door, right?

    • Bob

      Republic I agree with you 100%. I believe the plane that went down in Pa. was supposed to hit #7 but after it crashed they had to blow the building because the explosives had already been planted. How does a guy who leased the towers for only 6 months walk away with 6 billion dollars. The Port Authority who built the towers with taxpayer money got nothing. You think Larry Silverman knew what the plan was?

    • http://Google ProudChicagoan

      republic4all – “unquestionably qualified minds”??????? What makes these drs that? Because YOU prefer to believe that muslims are peace loving people? You would rather believe our own country and Israel are attacking us? Sorry. I do not see any proof of that theory; but, I have seen plenty of proof of muslims killing for their so-called belief. If you dare, watch “Fitna” by Theodore van Gogh (he was MURDERED by your peace-loving muslims) and “Submission” by Wilder (forgot his first name).

      • Bruce D.

        I agree. If there is one thing Obama has proved is that this is not all one big Jewish conspiracy. Most Progressive ideology comes from government universities with many Christian teachers in agreement with social justice ideology. President Obama’s black theology religoion is progressive, christian, and anti-American. Obama is the first president who has openly defied Israel and the Jewish voting block in this country. Many Jews are just as concerned as Christians in the direction Obama has taken the country. Most Progressives feel Obama is doing a good job but has not done enough to move the country to the left.

        • WhoYaGonnaBlame

          Let me get this straight. It’s not a Jewish elite. It’s not the Muslims. It’s not the … Does Bob know?

          • Bruce D.

            I do not think Bob does know. Take a look at all HFlashman’s comments and other Progressives. They support Muslims and oppose Israel. Same as Obama. I know all the conspiracy theories point to Jews but that is not the way it is playing out. You have to look at it realistically and not try to make your viewpoints conform to a book.

    • Bandit

      Who do you think you are bowing down to these bozos that want to chop our heads off. when was the last time read from their quoram misspelled on purpose because they want to ram their religion down our gullet all you have to do is to listen to what they say about this COUNTRY. They have said on many occasions that this COuntry will fall and all non believes will be destroyed period. They think that this COUNTRY is the great satin and their prez has this on the news on more than one time…….. Get a life get out and walk the streets and roads and listen to the people for a change instead of pulling things out of your nose…..

    • mark

      I th■”Martyrdom is therefore the ONLY way for a Muslim to obtain forgiveness of sins” Surat Al Tawbah 9:111.
      ■”Jihad (fighting for Allah’s cause) is ordained for you” Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216.
      ■”Kill the Mushrikun (non-Muslims); wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush” Surat Al-Taubah 9:5.
      ■”They (non-Muslims) shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land” Surat Al Maidah 5:33.
      ■”And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass” Surat Al Taubah 9:111.ink it is you who are trying to deceive by saying Islam is peaceful, read below

    • alpha-lemming

      Commentary on “the religion of peace”…. from “the most tolerant and open-minded” among us.

  • Neil

    They have done the same in Kashmir… massacred and drove away the Kashmiri Hindu Pandits. West and the worlds thinks Kashmir is and was a Muslim populated state, it was once inhabited by Hindu Pandits… Indian Media and liberal government fail to even talk about this.
    Centuries ago they have done that to Afghanistan (Hindu Kush).
    They are doing it to Europe now.
    They will do it to America and the rest of the world.
    Liberal governments (for political, natural resources like oil, fear of retribution from Muslim world or whatever), Liberal non Muslims (failing to realize the true nature of Islam and its History) are just screwing up their and their future generations lives.
    Islam and Muslims are more dangerous than all of the following put together…..Global Warming, Communism (domino effect that West feared until the end of cold war), North Korea, China, Outsourcing, Illegal Immigrants from South America, Unemployment………………………
    The common statement and response to these arguments …. “90 or more % of Muslims are peace loving… blah blah…” They are more dangerous than the 10% … because…

    1. They WONT protest against the 10%
    2. They WONT get together and protest against killing of those who criticize Islam
    3. They WONT get together and protest against killing or death threats to those who dare to depict Mohammed (seriously??…… not even cartoons, animations???) What happened to the freedom of speech and expression? why don’t you fight and protest for them??
    4. They WONT get together and protest against Jihad
    5. They get together and protest for their freedom, fundamental rights (in the non Muslim countries), call others racists, bigots…..
    6. They are the spreading force of Islam and muslim population drivers

    • Gul

      Thank you Neil for pointing out the problem about Kashmir. This is not only true about Kashmir but for over 600 years they (Muslims) killed, forced conversion upon and pillaged Hindu homes in India. What most people don’t know is that the Eastern Afghanistan area was part of Hindu India; Pakistan & Bangladesh were carved out of India in 1947 and many Hindu refugees suffered and are still today suffering because of the policies of secular democratic policies in India. France and other European countries are finally waking up to the evergrowing cancer of Muslim expansionism and under Presidents Carter through Obama the USA has seen this spread to the USA. I agree with Mr. Myers except I would say that every non-Muslim has a target on their backs. I good website to see the expansion of Islam by wars is
      http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html
      and I would urge everyone to visit this website and see the history.

  • Angel Wannabe

    I’m with you, John Myers, Quite frankly I don’t care who you worship, Buddhist, Muslim, or if your an atheist. As for me, I’m a little tired of being treated as if I’m a leper, because I’m a Christian. Right or Wrong, people OF ALL FAITHS come here to America to be FREE, fine then, do it!__But don’t expect to come from a foreign land to live here, and then attempt to take it over and expect the NATIVES NOT to be restless. That Ain’t gonna happen!_If Muslims can pray 5 times a day anywhere they damned well please, then my wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter, should be accepted as a gesture of good will! This notion of Christians taking a back seat, in a predominantly Christian nation, is ABSURD & OUTREGEOUS! I never stood for it, and can’t see myself standing for it, any time soon either!

    • TJAndrews

      I have NEVER heard of any moderate Muslim in the U.S. saying/suggesting in any way that they want to “take over” our country. And, yes, you may wish anyone a Merry Christmas if you want, and you may pray as many times a day as you want, just like anyone else in this country, including Muslims. You all need to get some hobbies or something instead of being hysterical and “seeing” a radical Muslim who wants to kill you under everybodys bed. For goodness sakes, it’s like the McCarthy era all over again. By the way, to the person who mentioned that in the Quoran a women is inferior to a man, that is in the bible too.

      • e. nies

        If you are so smart and know it all, you may want to read the New Testament (maybe even study it) and find out that that changed over 2000 years ago by Jesus!!!!

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        When a strident minority tries to change our buildings, impose Shariah law, perform honor killings, and fails to publicly protest the jihad, some of us ignore it, and some of us don’t.

      • Bruce D.

        TJAndrews says:

        I have NEVER heard of any moderate Muslim in the U.S. saying suggesting in any way that they want to “take over” our country.

        TJAndrews, you might want to go to You tube and take a look. So called moderate non violent Muslims claim they will have a Muslim President in the United States by the year 2050 and will at that time impose Sharia Law. You cannot hide from it and pretend it does not exist. It is their goal and it is not going away. I wish it was not so also. Even the socalled moderate Imam “has an in your face attitude”. Blaming America for Muslim problems.

        • Sapphira Sez

          Bruce, the muslims don’t have to wait until 2050 for a muslim president of the US. They have one now.

          • Angel Wannabe

            SS, at’s what I’m sayin’!

          • Conservative at Birth

            I think he meant openly Muslim.,

          • Bruce D.

            I though about that but decided not to say it.

          • JC

            Oh so true.

      • Jerry D

        You need to get your head out of the sand (most of which is in Muslim hands). Muslim leaders want a world wide caliphate, which means that Muslims want to rule the world for Allah. In my opinion, we should consider this as a threat to our national security and shut down all Muslim immigration to our country.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Deport all Muslims immediately.

      • C Schutz

        I’m VERY tired of being told that wishing someone Merry Christmas or Happy easter is wrong because it may offend some people. Send ALL the muslims back to their own country. Let us again say the Pledge of Allegiance in our classrooms and also have Christmas carols sung at Christmas pagents.

      • JC

        How many Muslin’s do you truely know as a great friend? You will not hear aa Muslim say a word. Do you think that they would go about spouting their beliefs or what their directives are? Just like having an American friend and then finding out they are having an affair or did something not on the up and up. People will not share things that they don’t want you to know. The proof is in the pudding. I guess you didn’t didn’t give a d… or remember that it was radical Islam Muslim’s that killed almost 3000 people in the Twin Towers. Yes, those of us who do remember have a right to be upset. And yes, the Bible does say that women were a bit backseat to men, but not on the same level that of abuse that the women of the Quaran have made them as being inferior. The big difference is that they practice it with the killing of a women if disobedient to their master, we in America do not.

      • Angel Wannabe

        TJ, . I believe this President walks on eggshells concerning the Muslim, is because he is one! America was built on Christian values, it’s wholly inadequate Government for anything else. The Bible gave us morals and guidelines for life. If you don’t beleieve in God or his teachings, then you obviously have to make up your own rules. NOW< I don't happen to think all atheists and other faiths are bad people, but I don't think they have anymore right to stop Christians from our worship, prayer or Having Nativity Scenes at Christmas, anymore than we have the right to demand that they believe in God!–But it's obvious, that most people suck at making up they're own rules!

      • Larry Owens

        OK I see lets be nice and hope they don’t cut our heads off.
        after all we don’t want to hurt their feelings. What a Joke.

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        TJAndrews – alright Bible scholar – does it say anywhere in the Bible that a man can beat his wife if he wants? It does in the Koran. And that comment about not hearing any muslim say they want to take over the country – of course you won’t hear it!!! Then, people like you who want to keep burying his head like an ostrich would have to believe it!!! Instead of trying to placate yourself into believing everything is alright, start thinking for yourself before it is too late. And, yes, all you atheists out there who think this is a “Christian” problem – the muslims will not give you a pass. The koran says all “non-believers”!!!

      • Gene

        TJ Andrews,
        You must have your head up your ass.

      • Karolyn

        Good point about the mcCarthy era.

    • Larry Owens

      AMEN to your post.

  • THINK ABOUT

    One must ask what is the difference in a radical muslim or a radical christian. Radical is the difference we should be concerned about. The same standard must be held, I don’t like radical anything and this goes for the radical thoughts I read and hear. The name calling is just a way of being radical and attempting to force others to believe as those who name call. To spread untruths when the ones spreading the untruths is also radical.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2n-RxUh48 infidel-Bob

      The proper term is fundemental. Doing what they’re taught by their holy book.

      • Bud

        no iB it is fundamental. If you are going to correct someone go all the way and at least spell it right. Duuuuh

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The radical muslim is the one who wants to kill you.

      • Jana

        And no moderate Muslim will stand against them eiher. They are afraid to do so. While listening to an English speaking Muslim radio station, they were stating that they were just biding their time and allowing the moderate muslims to act this way, but when it comes down to us taking over there will be no more moderates.
        I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. This was about 8 years ago. Since then I have been studying Islam, and its an eye popper!

        • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

          Jana-

          I think you are absolutely right. Fear of radical muslims is why the majority of Muslims don’t speak up. Does it occur to liberals that when they see American citizens go into hiding (like the cartoonist in Seattle) something terrible is happening?

    • Radical Thinker

      You say that you dont like radical anything but if you will THINK ABOUT what you are saying yow will realize that radical is good if it is used for the right cause or reason. I have come to the conclusion that the first Americans settlers where extremely radical people they risk there lives for the dream of living in a free land. I think the men that signed the Decelaration of Independence where radical people and the lost everything they had including their lives for the dream of freedom. If it where not for radical people serving in our military the freedom that gave you the right to express your opinion about this article whould have already been lost. I think that Jesus was radical about the salvation of man because he was willing to die and pay the price of redemption for sinful man. I think radical Christianity believes in life liberty & the pursuit of happines. Yes they are so radical that they beleive the words of Jesus when he said that he is the only way that a man can attain salvation but they have to come to him willing of their own free will not forced submition as the radical Muslims & our own Government/religion of social justice preaches and is being shoved down our throat so yes I am a radical person that beleives in a small limited Government with freedom not forced submition.

      • JC

        Nicely put.

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        Radical Thinker – very good. I was just thinking that I could be qualified as a radical because I believe 1000+% that Jesus is my Lord and Savior and I would die defending that belief. All the muslims are going to succeed in doing, as far as most (I hope) Christians are concerned, is make Christians stand up for their beliefs and tell the muslims to go to hell!!!

    • alpha-lemming

      What’s the difference between a radical Muslim and radical Christian?

      My response would be…. “the radical Christian is the one who shoots and abortion doctor”. NEVER heard anybody defend a nut of this caliber. Since main-stream Muslims (50%+) believe “situations exist where suicide-bombing is an appropriate civil action”, the radical (read…in the minority) Muslim would be the one who says “suicide-bombing should NEVER be employed”.

      So… the answer to what’s the difference?? How about the mind-set.

  • JC

    Any religion that advocates my death for not conforming, is my enemy.

  • K. D. M.

    Nice to finaly here more people in this country realise that the muslims are out to conquer us. They fired first, 9/11 and their is no such thing as a moderate muslim. They are told to lie to the infidels, that’s us. Smile when with us while hating us in their hearts. If they are not stopped they will conquer us….

    • Gul

      I would say they fired first with the 1993 WTC bombing. Before that they fired at the Munich Olympics, Bali Nightclub Bombing, US Embassy Bombings in Africa, Berlin Nightclub Bombing, USS Cole attack, Mumbai train blasts and I think the London Subway bombing also happened before 09/11.

      Moderate Muslims will never rise up against the World Caliphate movement; any one who does is marked for death — example Shah of Iran, Anwar Sadat among many.

    • Conservative at Birth

      The first shot was the oil embargo, then the Ahilles Loro and sending Klingfoffer (a jew in a wheel chair) over the side, in recent history. They are nothing more than a Military Cult hell bent on desctruction and mayhem.

  • http://none Jarrow

    Will the ACLU protect Muslim “rights” to public displays of religion while continuing to prosecute Christians and Jews?
    The ACLU and their ilk have softened us up for the attack of the Islamist fanatics, hasn’t it?
    If we want to start winning the war against these monsters, we have to overthrow the goverment of Iran by supporting their dissidents. But the Obamination Administration refuses to do that.

  • wm roberts

    tricia erickson’s excert should be on the front page of every u.s. newspaper and morning t.v program in america for a week, unless americans see it they won’t beleive it. they are stupid and the muslims know that.

    the radical muslims started this mess, and the the pacifist muslim is as much a victim.

    it’s time america gets a grip on it’s borders and stops importing people. now O wants to import 100k pakistanis and what religion do you think they will be? I’ll let you guess.

  • john oliveros

    please take note, look at any muslim in the eyes, they cannot
    hide the hate for you.

    • Karolyn

      I haven’t seen that looking into the eyes of Muslimchildren with American soldiers in IeQ.

      • slickporsche

        You are simply nothing more than a Dumb c&&t. Very few of us give a damn about your dribble.

        • Karolyn

          ooooh! You are so slick!

        • Viktor Leben

          Damn ! Slickporsche !

          Heil Hitler Mr. Nazi ! That’s sure a good way to treat a lady, you numb nuts !

          • Karolyn

            See what I mean?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2n-RxUh48 infidel-Bob

    2 Things,
    1.) It’s not Radical Islam, It’s Fundemental Islam. They’re DOING what their prophet taught them.
    Islam: Peace Taught like this:

    Kill the disbelievers [non-moslems] wherever we find them. (Sura 2:191)

    The infidels are your sworn enemies. (Sura 4:101)

    Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. (Sura 9:123)

    Prophet, make war on the infidels. (Sura 66:9)

    2.) Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

    Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts–the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

    England Tried twice to Appease war mongers to the tune of two world wars.

    Next ww will not be a national one

    • Jana

      infdel-Bob,
      How right you are.
      Call me infidel Jana!

    • JC

      You are sooooo right.

  • Ronifer

    Simply put, at this point it’s kill them before they kill us. AND, if our troops find any of them hiding behind women or children – they too should be killed. When it finally dawns on them that we are TOTALLY COMMITTED to winning our war with them – I believe then and only then they will back off ! I know it sounds brutal but these people are brutal. Remember how they severed the head of an American on TV, how they stone and lash women ! WAKE UP AMERICA !

  • JRC

    It seems to me that the “”Christians”” on this blog are still not over the fact that the Muslims kicked they’re butt during the crusades and are pushing and hoping for another religious war in the name of they’re and the Muslim murderous God. When will you all grow up and leave this superstitious nonsense behind you?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      JRC… Whom do you believe in?

      • C Schutz

        JRC…..get your head out of your a**!

      • Jana

        JRC
        Is obviously a Muslim and proud of it. He is in bondage and just doesn’t relize it. A slave.

    • S.C.Murf

      what rock have you been living under. You must have some money and don’t have to take in the real world

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Radical Muslims are endangering and implicating the moderates. Moderate Muslims had better wake up and start slapping down the radical element.

    • Jerry D

      Ah, an atheist has stepped among us. The Crusaders were just as much thugs and infidels as the Muslim hordes that had slaughtered before them. Your view of Christians is definitely skewed and errant. Look around today and tell me how many Evangelical Christian terrorists or Jewish terrorists do you see? Very, very few – if any. Yet a conservative estimate of 10 percent of Muslims are considered extremists and dangerous. That’s at least 150 million. Get a clue. You’re so far off base that you’ve left the ball park.

    • Conservative at Birth

      You sir are an ostrich, or not a true American.

  • http://ByGeorge By George

    People who have referenced passages from the Koran about how muslim’s should treat non-believers, are spot on. There are no, repeat “NO” moderate muslims. There are only muslims who have not been activated yet. Believers in true Islam stand on the principles outlined in the seven pillars of Islam and there can be no deviation, none what-so-ever. Muslims are authorized to lie to non-believers if it advances their cause, conversion of all to Islam. We will receive no succor from any so called moderate muslim for defending our western beliefs, religion or social customs.

    There is one nationality that has my complete admiration for it proven toughness: it is the Christian Serbians who after losing to the Ottoman Empire, refused to kowtow to the Turks and Islam for over 400 years. They resisted conversion and as a result, became the slaves and peasants and dirt for the ruling Muslims. Those that went along to get along became the Bosnians, Albanians and a few others.

    Am I a racist for saying this? Not by my definition. This is self-defense! While Islam itself is not yet to be feared, what is to be feared is that our political leaders are disarming us of our own self defense with their accommodation to Islamic crackpots out of fear of offending. Political Correctness is our Achilles heel.

    Let the offending commence!

    • JC

      You are so right George. When are we going to do our history studies and dig into what is really going on and get a clue. It’s the proverbial frog in the pot. It’s starting to get very hot.

    • Wlmitch1

      The southwestern part of Bosnia, which borders Croatia, has a nearly all Croat population. Most of Bosnia was part of Croatia until the Muslim Ottoman Turks overran it, annexed it into the Ottoman Empire, and named it Bosnia & Hercegovina. The Turks treated the Bosnian Croats as Dhimmis (second-class citizens). They treated the Serbs like animals. Serbia had become a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire. As you correctly point out, the Serbs rightfully resisted being Islamicized by the Turks for 500 years. Of course, the Turks were not satisfied with what they had already conquered. Their next goal was to overrun the rest of Croatia through a mountain pass just southeast of Karlovac, Croatia. Their ultimate goal was to use Croatia as a staging area to invade and overrun Europe.

      The battle of Karlovac commenced with 5,000 Croat defenders against 50,000 Turk invaders. The Croat defenders used guerilla tactics, took no prisoners, and beheaded the Turks as they met them on the battlefield. The Croat defenders fought viciously and showed no mercy. They HAD TO in order to survive! The death ratio of Turks to Croats was more than 10:1. The Turkish general and his soldiers became so demoralized that they fled back into Bosnia, never to return.

      Here is the mistake the Serbs made in the 1990s: They attacked Slovenia and Croatia, and commited atrocities against Croatian civilians when Slovenia and Croatia, who were forced into Yugoslavia in 1918 and again in 1945, seceded from Communist Yugoslavia. If they had not done that, Croatia would not have so vocally spoken out against what the Serbs were doing to the Bosnian Muslims. The Serbs at the time appeared to be the aggressors against all non-Serbs.

      In the beginning of the war in Bosnia, the Croats and Muslims were fighting the Serbs because they wanted independence from Communist Yugoslavia. When Mujahadeen mercinaries arrived in Bosnia, they committed atrocities against Serbs and Croats alike. It was not very long before the Bosniak Muslims began doing the same. By the end of the Bosnian war, the Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats were fighting on the same side against the Muslims. After the war, the Croats in Croatia learned of the Muslim atrocities against the Bosnian Croats. The Croats learned from their mistakes, and when the Serbs attacked the Muslim Albanians in Kosovo, Croatian sentiment was with the Serbs, not the Albanians. The hatreds between the Serbs and the Croats, which began in 1918, had died down. And for the very first time in Bosnia & Hercegovina, Croatian Parishes have had to open Catholic schools because of Bosniak discrimination against Croat students in the public schools. As an American of 50% Croat ancestry, I regard at least 70% of Kosovo as rightfully SERBIAN soil. The Muslim Albanians encroached into Kosovo during the last 100 years of Ottoman Turk rule, which ended around 1913. The Turks are hated throughout all of the Balkans, except among Bosniak Muslims, even today.

      The Albanian enclaves in Montenegro are nearly all Catholic, and they do not cause trouble. The Albanians in Macedonia are nearly all Eastern Orthodox, and they do not cause trouble. The Albanians in Kosovo, however, are nearly all Muslims. They are vicious, violent and dangerous, and are constantly causing trouble. The Albanians as an ethnic group are 70% Muslim, 30% Eastern Orthodox, and 10% Catholic. The Serbs, Macedonians, and Montenegrins are about 90% Eastern Orthodox. The Croats and Slovenes are about 90% Catholic.

      As long as there are Balkan, Middle Eastern (including Arabic), Near Eastern, South Asian, and African Christians in America, we will continue to expose Muslim atrocities worldwide, and openly resist any Islamicization of America. That means NO Ground Zero Cultural Center with Mosque. The white people of Europe are now getting a taste of what OUR races have already been through, and in some cases, are still going through. Many Balkan Christians have also suffered under Communism, and we will openly resist IT as well.

  • pennsyltuckian

    Time to play cowboys and muslims.

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    Words have consequences. Stop calling Islam a religion. It is a terrorist organization trying to operate under the cover of religion just like the KKK. Some of the converts are more violent than others.

  • Kenny kernell

    We are not at war with Islam? Like it or not we are and the powers that be had better stop kidding around about this. They absolutely hate us and intend to destroy us and our way of life.

    • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

      The terrorist/political organization called Islam is certainly at war with us.

  • RLS

    My country is dying before my eyes.
    Generations have been chemically lobotomized with drugs.
    Our nation has stood by and allowed the demeaning of human life by sanctioning murder in the womb.
    Our children are now enraged and violent through government sanctioned lack of discipline.
    We’ve been invaded by millions of illegal job seekers, gangs, weapon and drug dealers.
    We’ve allowed homosexuals to teach their perversion in our schools.
    We bash christians and jews and coddle muslims.
    America is dying and those of us who realize it are too old to do anything about it.
    Our enemies are now in control of our government and we have lost it because we have no guts to fight them.

    • Joyce from Loris

      RLS, I know how you feel. It is the older people who are most shocked that this could all happen in the American that we grew up in. Remember sleeping at night with the windows up?? Now days, the last think I ask my husband at night is “did you set the alarm?”. What a shame that my grandchildren will never know the life that I lived in this country. I can not, and never will, understand those who so flippant about our concerns with the condition of our nation. When we were young, you never worried about insulting anyone, because we were all alike! The most we could do was call someone “shorty” or “fatty”, and then we got spanked for that!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Amen, Joyce, there was no conflict, because we all believed in the same things!!!–We did have true Jews, but all the Jewish people we knew, celebrated both Christmas and Chanukah and we all got along.

      • Karolyn

        Change is inevitable. I still leave my doors and windows unlocked, and I’ a single woman living alone. Of course, I live in the country. However, the reason for the violent changes goes right back to population. If population control had been put into effect back in the 70s when it was a big issue, we wouldn’t have all the problems we have. There have always been, thieves, murderers, rapists, etc. but, first, we never heard about the; and, second, since there are more people, there is more crime. Simple.

        • Joyce from Loris

          I live in the country as well. Our home was broken into three times. We were forced by the criminals to get an alarm system. We were forced by people who believe in taking other people’s stuff, just because they wanted it. In court, they tried to use as a defense that they did not have any money, so they stole what was mine so they could sell it to get money. Welfare people, not satisfied with taking my tax dollars, they wanted everything else I had as well.

        • dan az

          If population control had been put into effect back in the 70s when it was a big issue, we wouldn’t have all the problems we have.
          Really then why is it so hard for you to understand that this nation has been invaded and over populated with illegals and you do nothing but whine about how every one is so kill happy? And you would rather see we as the ones that get population controled!Please explain your logic to me and all that had you read your spew!

    • Bruce D.

      You are not too old to give your opinion. Shout it long and shout loud.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Bruce, we do! The scariest thing of all, is that we really AREN’T THAT OLD!. I am not even 60 years old yet, but in just the past 30 years, we have watched in horror as our country changed. No, I don’t like Obama and his administration, but this all started happening long before Obama. The Civil Rights Laws put in place by Johnson in the 60′s was so destructive.The welfare system adopted during that same time was outrageous. I remember the trade agreements that Reagan agreed to, which helped start the downfall of the American Industry. Carter was an ABSOLUTE failure of a President. I worked for DuPont, and we were the finest in the world with our products. The minute the trade agreements went into affect, the lay offs began. In 1973, the plant that I worked at employed 2600 people. By 1988, when I left, there were only 1200 people. Today, that same plant is OWNED by a mexican company, with only 400 employees. Half the plant is down. What a shame.

        • Bruce D.

          The trade agreements were put in place by Clinton.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Jpyce, I did some research recently,on how many Industrial plants have left our area, in the last 25-30 years here in the mid-alantic. The number is 17!__Most closings were due to EPA regulation, Unions not willing to comprimise on contracts, tax/regulation, three closings were due to deaths of the owners, and the hiring, poor replacement management!

    • Larry Owens

      You have hit the nail on the head.

      That is the problem we are suppose to be a Christian
      nation but ALL the evil garbage we have let lose in our
      nation is NOW paying us back, GOD will not be Mocked.

      Thanks for your post.

  • NJ Nurse

    Islam is not a tolerate religion and never has been. The Koran and sharia law are one in the same, meaning their religion and politics are one and the same. I too am tired of hearing about these people and feel if they want to come to our country they need to adapt to American life and keep their religion/politics to themselves and stop shoving it down our throats. The more we listen to them the more obnoxious they become in their demands, so if we turn a deaf ear they get nowhere. Our gov should certainly do the same but they will use it to get elected just as they have always used the poor, the elderly and the disabled. Thanks for the article.

    • Conservative at Birth

      They cannot stay here and live peacefully. It is inherant in there beliefs to kill all non believers. They must be removed like the cancer they are.

  • RivahMitch

    Unless and until “Christians” and westerners begin responding to attacks, insults and affronts as Muslims do, western culture and society is doomed. Any Muslim seeking to build a victory mosque in New York should be at least as afraid as the average Copt attending a worship service in Egypt.

  • Jerry D

    An excellent article. Political correctness be damned. Yes, it’s time that Christians stood up and let their voices be heard unashamedly. We need to vote our convictions at the voting booth and return America to its Judeo-Christian roots.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrATS4mthX4 TXRacer

    Agree Muslims flocking into all western based countries and killing innocents, is a deliberant attempt to defeat us. All Christians must pray very hard for a solution. God is savior for all of us and the only one who can deliver us from this evil. A Christian President would be a big step in right direction. This one world order is part of the Islam take over. The world is large enough for all religions, if they’d stay in their own countries.

  • Likely_Suspect

    I have no great love of France, their socialist government or their predominantly “filthy American” mentality; however they have gotten a few things right: they outlawed burqas & headscarves, and they deported “Gypsies” illegally in their country. What a bunch of racist bigots trying to hang onto their national identity.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Viva La France,

  • Joyce from Loris

    As an older person, I remember a whole different America. Life was good then, there were no fights about religion or rights, there was no ACLU or NAACP or Civil Rights Law. Everyone lived fine, but some people just aren’t happy with “fine”. Now, there are actually HATE LAWS on our books? The problem is that American now has so many people from different places, different religions, different cultures, and everyone wants their “rights”. Our immigration platform states that a person who wants to come to America, must be willing to BECOME an American, assimilate to our way of life, contribute to our way of life. Well, no one has come to “assimilate”. They want to bring their way of life with them. You can NOT have that many different cultures, religions, beliefs mixed together and expect people to “get along”. I believe that the muslims should stay in the Middle East, where they belong. I believe the mexicans should stay in mexico, where they belong. I believe that it is time to close the “gate”. Our country is in a mess, and we have to clean it up before we can accept anymore contributions to our mess. We have 320 million people in American, no jobs, no money, and no clear agenda to get this all straightened out. Majority of the immigrants, both legal and illegal, expect and receives handouts once they are here. If we end the welfare system in this country, you will see the “immigration problem” cure itself. No more handouts to anyone!

    • Jerry D

      Absolutely. Agreed.

    • Gene

      Joyce,
      I’m with you all the way. Your way is not the only way, but it’s a darn good start.

  • Robert Morris

    If I Islamics want to kill people, let them slaughter one another as they have for over a thousand years. The best way that Western “Christian”nations can combat any religious, social. or hostile political threat, is to be more faithful to the truths of our Faith and U.S. Constitution. As we observe the Muslims practice their religion, they make no apology and at least some are willing to die for Allah and what they supposedly believe in. Very interesting though, the leaders are not in that list of Heroes of their Faith.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Remove the Blinders. The ignorance and bigotry is overwhelming.

    I believe that they have told us clearly what they want.

    They want our MILITARY TROOPS out of the Middle East and anywhere else for that matter and I personally agree.

    The west has been bombing, occupying, redistricting and meddling in foreign affairs and especially in the middle east far too long and our founding fathers warned us against it.

    We should follow our basic religious teachings and not covet our neighbors’ anything. Today it’s oil and strategically positioned embassies/bases.

    Terrorism is merely the eventual & desperate pushback that results from occupation, oppression & exploitation. When it was used against the Germans , we called it resistance.

    It’s not about religion or my god versus your god. It’s about self determination. And whether our methods are foreign aid with a string attached that it be spent only on American companies and military or our acceptance of our military support of corrupt dictators all over the world or our covert assassinations or bombing campaigns or drone campaigns, they are all morally and ethically wrong and need to stop.

    John, you and Pastor Jones are not helping, you are merely throwing more gas onto an out of control fire.

    The founding fathers also warned us against mixing politics and religion.

    • Joyce from Loris

      You are right in so many ways. We do need to bring our troops home, and mind our own business. Not just the troops in the Middle East, ALL the troops, and stop trying to be the police of the world. We need to stop handing out our money in the for of “foreign aid” as well. WE NEED OUR MONEY. Let them fend for themselves. No one ever steps and sends aid to America for anything. But we still need to put the best interest of AMERICANS on top of our agenda as well.
      If the pastor in Florida wants to burn a koran, I have no problem with that. I have watched the videos of muslims standing on the street corners of New York and Michigan, burning the American Flag and the Bible. So, why should I get offended by the burning of a koran? I don’t.

      • Karolyn

        Aren’t we supposed to be the more highly evolved? You can’t right wrongs with more wrongs.

        • Joyce from Loris

          More highly evolved than who???? Are you saying you are a “higher evolved” person than a muslim, you who seems to love them so much??? I am shocked.

          • Karolyn

            Yes, I believe we (well many of us) are more highly evolved in that we recognize individual freedom. If you ever watch news pieces about Muslims active in change, you can see that they are trying to help their fellow Muslims evolve also. We are all in the process of evolution. (Although many on this list seem to be going backwards.)

    • Jerry D

      Well, Eric, we agree on one thing: get our troops out of there. But, they weren’t there when the Towers went down. If you think that all they want is us out, then you’re not as smart as I thought you were. They want a world-wide caliphate with all others under the heel of their god. Peace with Islam is only possible from a point of overwhelming power.

    • RLS

      Eric,
      We need to protect Israel at all costs. Other than that, leaving the other side of the world to fend for itself is OK by me. Think of all the money we’d save if we tended to our own problems.

      Our forefathers had a lot to say that we seemed to have forgotten.

      Washington warned against big government:
      “Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”

      Washington warned against losing our christian heritage:
      “It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

      And he warned against secular thinking:
      “Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

      Thomas Jefferson warned against the Federal Reserve:
      “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.”

      Oh wait, American History is not taught anymore. Who made up that rule?

  • Henry Ledbetter

    John Amen to your article. For the most part TRUE CHRISTIANS reach out to all people and we are always the first to help where there is suffering anywhere in the world. A recent example of that would be Haiti. Muslims on the other hand want to kill us or anyone else that do not agree with them. This is a result of serving a god that is not God. The 40 years I have known and served Jesus, He has never let me down but many wolves in sheeps clothing have. Henry

  • Kevin

    I don’t believe the quran attacked the world trade center no more than the bible caused the spanish inquisition. It is the distorted beliefs of extreamist that want to control you, and at this time it seems that in some cases whether you believe it or not is working if you fear Islam. No, I am not a Muslim. This country has freedom of religion for a reason, and many have died to keep that right. I have served in the military. I have worked for the military in Afghanistan. I have spoken to many Muslims and they are tired of the fighting and death that goes with war. I will not say what religious beliefs I hold because it is irrelevant. I have served my country.
    I just ask before you say no, not here, ask the question: Will I die for freedom from oppression? That is what this country is founded on.

    • Bruce D.

      Kevin the more appropiate question is ‘will I die from a Muslim fanatic’.

  • Doug Rodrigues

    It should be interesting….in another 40 or so years will the Mexicans be fighting a civil war with the Islamics over who gets to take over what used to be the United States of America? We’re headed in that direction and our “leaders” only talk, talk, talk.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Excellent Point, Doug! I hate to think that the only people my grand daughters will be able to find to marry are mexicans or muslims. My poor babies.

    • Cribster

      My sentiments exactly Doug!

  • Doc Sarvis

    I find it astonishing that the article states that; “we Christians have a target on our back” as we continue to kill thousands of innocent Muslim people in the Afghanistan (after we did the same in Iraq). I wonder why Muslim’s think that they are the ones with targets on their backs?
    Rev. Jones decided on his own not to burn the Quran, he was not forbidden to do so.
    If President Obama were obsessed over what Muslims might do if we offend them I am sure he would not have our military in Afghanistan killing them, so far for his entire term. The fight, poorly exicuted so far is against radicals of that religion as fights usually are. Mr Myers and others on this site mistake efforts to distinguish the radical elements of Islam from the majority of that religion’s followers as appeasement. As for the scriptures from the Koran, I and others have often pointed to very similar writings from the Christian Bible. We should look in the mirror once in a while. In the Bible women are consicered inferior to men as well and have fewer rights.

    • Jerry D

      Where in this wide universe did you ever get the idea that Christians are killing thousands of Muslims? That’s absolutely false. No, not just false, it’s a stinking lie and I believe you know it.

      • Doc Sarvis

        How about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? We are killing some of the enemy but a lot of innocent Muslim bystanders are being killed weekly. Even the military admits that.

        • Jana

          Poor poor Doc,
          And why do you think the innocents are getting killed. Our soldiers are being shot at, they shoot back and then find that the original shooter is using human shields. Of course there are innocents that get killed but again, it is them killing their own people by shooting in the middle of them.
          Our sons and daughters go into the Military to serve their country and you want to blame them for everything. Shame on you. Our troops are our kids, and they would never intentionally kill any innocent person.
          You kill with your evil words. Your heart may be evil but don’t put that on our young men and women who went into the Military to protect their country.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Nice try Jana but I never said anything against our troops and I am amazed that a thinking person would assume that. It is our mission in those countries that put our soldiers in that terrible position AND the innocent people that are being killed in that even more terrible position.

          • Karolyn

            Where do you get “evil” from Doc’s words? He did not speak out against the soldieers, after all, they’re just doing what they’re told.

          • Viktor Leben

            Jana,

            Have you ever heard of the words “friendly fire”. Just try getting married in one of them moslem countries, all of a sudden “friendly fire” comes from the sky courtesy of the USA and the bride, groom, family and friends become burnt Pop Tarts, y’know what I mean ?

            Oh Well, in a hundred years they will probably return the favor. Bummer !

          • Jana

            Doc and Karolyn,
            Hmmm, now lets see. Just where did I get the idea that doc was talking about our troops?
            He stated.”I find it astonishing that the article states that; “we Christians have a target on our back” as we continue to kill thousands of innocent Muslim people in the Afghanistan (after we did the same in Iraq). I wonder why Muslim’s think that they are the ones with targets on their backs?”

            Now who is over in Afghanistan? OUR TROOPS. You bet he was talking about our kids and brothers and sisters who are in the military.
            Again I say SHAME ON YOU!

          • Jana

            Viktor,
            You were never there, you don’t know what you are talking about. The ones killing and destroying are the insurgents, it is not our troops. Yes, duh! I have heard of friendly fire.
            You went to the peace corp, good for you. I hope you enjoyed yourself smoking your pot and doing your drugs etc. Thats what I heard you all did in the peace corp.

          • Viktor Leben

            Jana,

            Were you there ? Tell us about your experience, I want to know ..

          • Jana

            No Viktor,
            I was not there but my husband and my brother in law was. The one thing they would ask of us back home was to pray that no innocents ever got hurt.
            Maybe I wasn’t there personally, but half my heart was there.

          • Viktor Leben

            Jana,

            I never was in the “Peace Corps” !! HA HA HA ! That’s a good joke !!!!

            You seem to be a very intelligent lady overall. I see that you are wrong on one thing ?

        • Jerry D

          Far more of them are killed by other Muslims than by our troops. Some of those “innocents” are actually sided with the insurgents. Many of the truly innocent ones are being used as human shields by Islamic religious zealots that take it upon themselves to make unwilling women and children martyrs for their cause. But, I will admit to a minimal amount of collateral damage. And, I am absolutely in favor of pulling our troops out of those countries – now. But, my reason for pulling them out is that I don’t want to sacrifice a single life of our fighting men for people who, in the long run, won’t truly appreciate what we have tried to do for them.

          • Jana

            Jerry,
            I agree with you that some people do not appreciate what our troops are doing for them. We certainly have evidence of that here on this site.
            Yes, I think we ought to bring our troops home too.

        • Sapphira Sez

          Doc, you seem to have more empathy with the muslims than you do with Americans. The muslims are not innocent. They are taught hatred from the day they are born, especially hatred of Christians and Jews. Remember the video coverage after 9-11, of Pakistani children dancing in the streets and celebrating that 3000 innocent and unsuspecting Americans were killed?? Huh?? Remember that?? Hatred is what drives them. You and others of your ilk want to coddle them so they will be nice and cut our heads off with one swipe of the blade rather than sawing it off. You’ll still be just as dead. Muslims ARE a danger to our country, just as Mexican Invaders are a danger. Get it through your skull.

          • Dorothy Duda

            First of all I think every one should understand that there is no ‘radical element of Islam”, Islam is radical, and it is a governing
            institution camouflaged as a religion. I have not read the Koran and will not, but those who have read it said only once was the word “love” mentioned in the book. Their intent is to take over the world. The Christ said, “be wise”, an old adage says, “know your enemy”, and I do not know anyone who is stupid enough to lie down and sleep with vipers around them, however that seems what Obama’s intent is–to bring down and destroy America, which is what the Moslems chant in front of cameras all the time as do the illegal immigrants within America. I took a chance and voted on an unknown, Obama, and I regret it every day. He can not take America down fast enough and searches hard for ways to circumvent our procedures in order to push through what he wants not what the legal US Citizens want who elected him to office. Socialism has never worked, and it would seem a compromise may be required in order to check the overwhelming greed, destruction, and corruption of many big businesses. They should police themselves, but will not and have not so unfortunately many controls and oversight measures must be put in place. Yes as Jesus said, ‘the poor will always be with us’, but those who can and want to work and save for retirement should be able to do just that with out fear of threats or loss or violence. Those who can and want to study in order to advance in their ability to earn a living should have the opportunity without depriving themselves to the extreme. I am not a law maker, but rather
            than repeal the new health law, why don’t you consider making changes for the better step by step so that people can go ahead and get the health care they need now. AARP has the right idea, a big step has been finally taken, and now we can undertake to fix the flaws. Controversy and upheaval does not help our country. All of the stupid law makers should stop spending especially on the stupid things I read about. 20.3-million to bring refugees here???? My mother and father and a great many other refugees had absolutely no help in getting to American shores so why now in these bad times did the congress submit money for them. Stupid studies, and repairing Mosques around the world. The US government never repaired any of the burned down US-churches so why are the mosques so special??? I think our elected officials have gone crazy and have absolutely no monetary sense at all.

        • DavidL

          Hey Doc Sarvis,

          I share much of your perspective here today. I would like to add that there are many US soldiers in Afghanistan who are Muslim American citizen soldiers. As you point out, they have killed radical Muslims, and will continue to do so.

          Good book to consider: “No god but God” Reza Aslen. One of his main themes is that Islam is undergoing religious reformation. Radical Islam attacking moderate Islam. So if people want to see a target on someones back, look on the back of moderate Muslims.

          President Obama is a Christian. Those saying otherwise on this site, and other posts, are either running for office, helping others to do so, or denying reality.

          President Obama, with his demonstrated respect for all religious faiths, is a better Christian than many of the “Christians” writing her today. Since when is respect an apology? Since when is returning a bow to a Buddhist out of respect an apology? Since when is it an apology when Christians entering a Jewish Temple wear a yarmulke? The list of examples goes on and on and on and on….

          Shame on those “Christians” here today, once again, peddling hate, prejudice, fear, violence, ignorance, and intolerance. Jesus not only disagrees with you, he’s ashamed of you.

          • Doc Sarvis

            DavidL
            Well said.

          • wth

            Well thats just wunnerful. Foreigners get to join our army. My son who has his BS was turned down when he tried to enlist. If you are white, you are screwed.

          • Karolyn

            BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

          • Viktor Leben

            wth,

            Count your blessings. He’s alive.

          • LAWMAN

            DAVIS,NO SUCH THING AS MODERATE ISLAM,THAT’S LIKE SAYING A MODERATE RAPIST,ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION,IT’S A IDEOLOGY OF ONE’S BELIEF OF A POLITICAL SYSTEM HELD CAPTIVE BY RELIGION.

    • Conservative at Birth

      What is the Doc for? You are taking the Bible out of Context. I believe in the New Testament which changes some of the Old Testament.

    • wth

      How come noone got upset when the Jews burned millions of New Testaments?
      http://www.haaretz.com/news/orthodox-jewish-youths-burn-new-testaments-in-or-yehuda-1.246153

      • Viktor Leben

        Because Jewish Women are hot !!!

        • LAWMAN

          AND SLUTTY.

      • coal miner

        wth,

        Rabbi Marcus Eli Ravage has to say.

        The following article was written by Marcus Eli Ravage, a Jewish writer who was the Rothschilds’ approved biographer. It appeared in THE CENTURY MAGAZINE, JANUARY 1928, Vol. 115, No. 3, pp. 346-350.

        A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS

        One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt

        MARCUS ELI RAVAGE

        OF COURSE, you do resent us. It is no good telling me you don’t. So let us not waste any time on denials and alibis. You know you do, and I know it, and we understand each other. To be sure, some of your best friends are Jews, and all that. I have heard that before once or twice, I think. And I know, too, that you do not include me personally—“me” being any particular individual Jew—when you fling out at us in your wholesale fashion, because I am, well, so different, don’t you know, almost as good as one of yourselves. That little exemption does not, somehow, move me to gratitude; but never mind that now. It is the aggressive, climbing, pushing, materialistic sort you dislike—those, in a word, who remind you so much of your own up-and-coming brethren. We understand each other perfectly. I don’t hold it against you.

        Bless my soul, I do not blame anybody for disliking anybody. The thing that intrigues me about this anti-Jewish business, as you play at it, is your total lack of grit. You are so indirect and roundabout with it, you make such transparent excuses, you seem to be suffering from self-consciousness so horribly, that if the performance were not grotesque, it would be irritating.

        It is not as if you were amateurs: you have been at it for over fifteen centuries. Yet watching you and hearing your childish pretexts, one might get the impression that you did not know yourselves what it is all about. You resent us, but you cannot clearly say why. You think up a new excuse—a “reason” is what you call it—every other day. You have been piling up justifications for yourselves these many hundreds of years and each new invention is more laughable than the last and each new excuse contradicts and annihilates the last.

        Not so many years ago I used to hear that we were money-grubbers and commercial materialists; now the complaint is being whispered around that no art and no profession is safe against Jewish invasion.

        We are, if you are to be believed, at once clannish and exclusive and unassimilable because we won’t intermarry with you, and we are also climbers and pushers and a menace to your racial integrity.

        Our standard of living is so low that we create your slums and sweated industries, and so high that we crowd you out of your best residential sections.

        We shirk our patriotic duty in wartime because we are pacifists by nature and tradition, and we are the arch-plotters of universal wars and the chief beneficiaries of those wars (see the late “Dearborn Independent,” passim, and “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”).

        We are at once the founders and leading adherents of capitalism and the chief perpetrators of the rebellion against capitalism.

        Surely, history has nothing like us for versatility!

        And, oh! I almost forgot the reason of reasons. We are the stiff-necked people who never accepted Christianity, and we are the criminal people who crucified its founder.

        But I can tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, he crucified Jesus but because he gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you!

        Your loose, contradictory charges against us are not a patch on the blackness of our proved historic offense. You accuse us of stirring up revolution in Moscow. Suppose we admit the charge. What of it? Compared with what Paul the Jew of Tarsus accomplished in Rome, the Russian upheaval is a mere street brawl.

        You make much noise and fury about the undue Jewish influence in your theaters and movie palaces. Very good; granted your complaint is well-founded. But what is that compared to our staggering influence in your churches, your schools, your laws and your governments, and the very thoughts you think every day?

        A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that beside the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we have never denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read?

        If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?

        You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.

        Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, care-free, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.

        But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

        We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to the unexplored ends of the earth.

        Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.

        Jewish artisans and Jewish fishermen are your teachers and your saints, with countless statues carved in their image and innumerable cathedrals raised to their memories. A Jewish maiden is your ideal of womanhood. A Jewish rebel-prophet is the central figure in your religious worship. We have pulled down your idols, cast aside your racial inheritance, and substituted for them our God and our traditions. No conquest in history can even remotely compare with this clean sweep of our conquest over you.

        How did we do it? Almost by accident. Two thousand years ago nearly, in far-off Palestine, our religion had fallen into decay and materialism. Money-changers were in possession of the temple. Degenerate, selfish priests mulcted our people and grew fat. Then a young patriot-idealist arose and went about the land calling for a revival of faith. He had no thought of setting up a new church. Like all the prophets before him, his only aim was to purify and revitalize the old creed. He attacked the priests and drove the money-changers from the temple. This brought him into conflict with the established order and its supporting pillars. The Roman authorities, who were in occupation of the country, fearing his revolutionary agitation as a political effort to oust them, arrested him, tried him and condemned him to death by crucifixion, a common form of execution at that time.

        The followers of Jesus of Nazareth, mainly slaves and poor workmen, in their bereavement and disappointment, turned away from the world and formed themselves into a brotherhood of pacifist non-resisters, sharing the memory of their crucified leader and living together communistically. They were merely a new sect in Judea, without power or consequence, neither the first nor the last.

        Only after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans did the new creed come into prominence. Then a patriotic Jew named Paul or Saul conceived the idea of humbling the Roman power by destroying the morale or its soldiery with the doctrines of love and non-resistance preached by the little sect of Jewish Christians. He became the Apostle to the Gentiles, he who hitherto had been one of the most active persecutors of the band. And so well did Paul do his work that within four centuries the great empire which had subjugated Palestine along with half of the world, was a heap of ruins. And the law which went forth from Zion became the official religion of Rome.

        This was the beginning of our dominance in your world. But it was only a beginning. From this time forth your history is little more than a struggle for mastery between your own old pagan spirit and our Jewish spirit. Half your wars, great and little, are religious wars, fought over the interpretation of one thing or another in our teachings. You no sooner broke free from your primitive religious simplicity and attempted the practice of the pagan Roman learning than Luther armed with our gospels arose to down you and enthrone our heritage. Take the three principal revolutions in modern times—the French, the American and the Russian. What are they but the triumph of the Jewish idea of social, political and economic justice?

        And the end is still a long way off. We still dominate you. At this very moment your churches are torn asunder by a civil war between Fundamentalists and Modernists, that is to say between those who cling to our teachings and traditions literally and those who are striving by slow steps to dispossess us. In Dayton, Tennessee, a Bible-bred community forbids the teaching of your science because it conflicts with our ancient Jewish account of the origin of life; and Mr. Bryan, the leader of the anti-Jewish Ku Klux Klan in the Democratic National Convention, makes the supreme fight of his life in our behalf, without noticing the contradiction. Again and again the Puritan heritage of Judea breaks out in waves of stage censorship, Sunday blue laws and national prohibition acts. And while these things are happening you twaddle about Jewish influence in the movies!

        Is it any wonder you resent us? We have put a clog upon your progress. We have imposed upon you an alien book and an alien faith which you cannot swallow or digest, which is at cross-purposes with your native spirit, which keeps you everlastingly ill-at-ease, and which you lack the spirit either to reject or to accept in full.

        In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still love war and graven images and strife. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolutions, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses, paralyzed your desires. In the midst of battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said “Resist not evil” and “Blessed are the peacemakers.” In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday-school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.

        So why should you not resent us? If we were in your place we should probably dislike you more cordially than you do us. But we should make no bones about telling you why. We should not resort to subterfuges and transparent pretexts. With millions of painfully respectable Jewish shopkeepers all about us we should not insult your intelligence and our own honesty by talking about communism as a Jewish philosophy. And with millions of hard-working impecunious Jewish peddlers and laborers we should not make ourselves ridiculous by talking about international capitalism as a Jewish monopoly. No, we should go straight to the point. We should contemplate this confused, ineffectual muddle which we call civilization, this half-Christian half-pagan medley, and—were our places reversed—we should say to you point-blank: “For this mess thanks to you, to your prophets and to your Bible.”
        How do you like that Christians?It has never occur how indebted we are to the jews.We should be ashamed.

        • coal miner

          Jana,

          what do you think of the good rabbi’s quote?

  • john

    First let me say this…there is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim..they are required to be peaceful in areas where they are the minority,they bide their time.Once they establish themselves as a majority they seek to impose Sharia Law and Islam itself upon all non-believers otherwise known as infidels.The Iranian Revolution started by Ayahtollah Khomeini in 1979 is the spark that became an inferno.The purpose was not just to depose the Shah,but to spread Islam by force upon the world.They seek to overthrow the West through the womb.They know they can never invade us militarily..so they emigrate and grow in population.They see the destruction of the family in the West through homosexuality and abortion and they know it will not be long before they become the dominant population.Europe is already lost and they don’t even realize it although they are beginning to see too late.The only thing offsetting them in the USA is the illegal immigration of Christian Hispanics.As long as we allow ourselves to be governed by godless or irreligious leftist liberals who promote homosexual agendas and abortion and continue to attack the natural family unit we too will fall.When you turn your back on God He will hand you over to your enemies as He did with Israel so many times.I think it’s time that Christians of all denominations put aside our differances and stop attacking each other and unite.We should organize a march on Washington under the banner of the Cross..and put an end to the denial and blatant attempts to destroy or silence Christians in our own land.The USA is a light to all nations and there are too many organizations in this country trying to put that light out.They know that if they can silence Christians in this nation they will win.The enemies of this country are clear..Islam,the homosexual extremist agenda,the abortion industry,the pornograghy industry,the ACLU,NOW,and Hollywood..the liberals and leftists,the Godless must be confronted now before it is too late…pick a date..lets unite..lets march..let them see us hear us lets raise the banner of the Cross and let them be the ones to tremble in fear.

    • Jerry D

      If Christians were to get up and vote their convictions, we could turn every election in the right direction. Problem is, too many have bought the lie that we should keep our beliefs out of politics. We have a right to vote based on our convictions and should absolutely do so.

      • Sapphira Sez

        Amen, Jerry D. The mess we are in is directly due to Christians failing to exercise their right and DUTY to vote for people of good character.

      • LAWMAN

        RELIGION IS THE MAIN CAUSE OF STARVATION,DEATH,WARS,IN THE LAST 100 YEARS RELIGION HAS BEEN TOO POLITICAL,AS OUR CONSTITUTION SPELLS OUT… ” FREEDOM FROM RELIGION”.

  • http://YAHOO HARRYREIMER

    I BELIEVE THE ONLY “MODERATE” MUSLIMS ARE THOSE WHO DON’T ACTUALLY
    KNOW WHAT THE QURAN IS SAYING OR PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT TO BELIEVE!!!!
    EITHER WAY IS “THE” DEATH KNELL ACCORDING TO “SHARIA”LAW!!!!

  • Cribster

    We are being sandwiched between Mexicans and Muslims (death by M & M’s.)

    You would have to be blind to not see that wherever Muslims get a good foothold in nations around the globe there is loss of liberty and sovereignty, relentless demands, riots when they’re not met, misery and death.

    Obama said “we are not at war with Islam”, he left out; Islam is at war with us.

    That creepy imam trying to build the Mosque in Manhattan is my enemy, same goes for that wife of his. You don’t have to look to close to see the hate and deceit in their eyes.

  • Artie

    You know, I am disgusted at the pure hate that you people are spouting here! Every single one of you, living in America, if you are not a native American, then your ancestor’s all immigrated to this country!! Instead of drinking the government koolaid, which has you totally focused on the wrong things, examine the real truth about 9/11. Examine the laws of physics and tell me why they were suspended three times in one city on one day!! 9/11 was a false flag inside job!! Physics is irrefutable!! You all saw how fast those buildings came down!! The gov’t played this thing just the way they intended. They knew the ignorant masses in America would buy their crock about airplanes making 110 story skyscrapers fall! Unfortunately for them, there are some of us, who can utilize critical thinking skills and understand that THE BUILDINGS CAME DOWN TOO FAST!!! And then they feed you a story that the buildings pancaked, knowing that the average American would not only not know what that term meant, but would also just accept whatever the TV told them. You all played right into their hands, as expected! Yes, there is a real threat of terrorism, NOW!! Why? Because America illegally invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, based on known lies!! Their actions, pinning 9/11 on Muslim’s, have created this new reality. So I ask you, if Russia invaded America and killed millions of innocent civilians, wouldn’t you be out for revenge? Put the shoe on the other foot and get your heads out of your butts!! Demand a new investigation into 9/11!! Are you all so blind that you don’t recognize that 9/11 was NEEDED to forward their agenda? Physics people!!! Those buildings were brought down by our own government!! Face the true reality, if you can wrap your head around it. No one wants to believe that their own government would attack it’s citizen’s, but that is the ugly truth. BTW, since the alleged hijacker’s were all from Saudi Arabia, why didn’t our government attack S.A.? Why wasn’t Bin Laden ever been wanted for 9/11? The FBI’s answer to that? “We can’t prove that he had any connection”! You want to do something for our country, expose the real perp’s behind 9/11 because, if we don’t, nothing is going to change!!

    • Cribster

      How do you explain these?

      1979 Iran Hostage Crisis: seizure of US Tehran Embassy, Iran (Nov 4,

      1979 for 444 days)

      1983 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy, Lebanon (April 18, 1983)

      1983 Bombing of US Marine barracks, Beirut, Lebanon (Oct 23, 1983)

      1983 Bombing of US Kuwait Embassy (Dec 12, 1983)

      1984 Bombing of US Beirut Embassy (again) (Sept 20, 1984)

      1984 Kuwait Airlines Flight 221 hijacked to Tehran – American passengers murdered (Dec 3, 1984)

      1985 Hijacking TWA Flight 847 hijacked to Beirut (June 14, 1985)

      1985 Hijacking cruise ship Achille Lauro, wheelchair-bound American is thrown overboard & killed (Oct 7, 1985)

      1986 Bombing Berlin disco frequented by US servicemen (April 5, 1986)

      1988 Bombing Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, 100′s murdered (Dec 21, 1988)

      1993 First bombing World Trade Center, New York City, 7 Killed, 1,042 wounded (Feb 26, 1993)

      1993 Foiled NY Landmarks plot by Omar Abdel Rahman to blow up the Holland and Lincoln tunnels
      and other New York City landmarks

      1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr. during visit to Kuwait (April 14, 1993)

      1993 Black Hawk Down: shot down US helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia,
      during Operation Restore Hope (Oct 3-4, 1993)

      1994 Plot to assassinate President Clinton during visit to the Philippines

      1995 Failed Project Bojinka by Ramzi Yousef to blow up a dozen US airliners over the Pacific (end in Jan 1995)

      1995 Bombing US military headquarters, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia (Nov 13, 1995)

      1996 Bombing Khobar Towers, Saudi Arabia, housing U.S. foreign military personnel (Jun 25, 1996)

      1998 Bombing U.S. Nairobi Embassy, Kenya, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)

      1998 Bombing U.S. Dar es Salaam Embassy, Tanzania, Africa (Aug 7, 1998)

      1999 Foiled LAX Millennium plot by Ahmed Ressam to bomb Los Angeles International Airport
      (Ressam was arrested at US Canadian border)

      2000 Failed USS The Sullivans bombing that was refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen. (Jan 3, 2000)

      2000 Bombing USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen, 17 U.S. Navy sailors murdered (Oct 12, 2000)
      (The USS Cole was not engaged in any combat during this period)

      2000 Bombing plaza across from US Manila Embassy (Dec 30, 2000)

      • Gul

        Add to those listed the Mumbai train bombings, the Nov 26, 2008 massacre at the Taj Mahal Hotel, Mumbai.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Artie, I am a Native American. I do not buy into your “inside conspiracy” ideas. I am also a retired chemist, and have some physics background. You, if you are so familiar with physics, should know that even physics can’t explain everything.

      You are free to leave America anytime you wish, and good luck on your journey. God’s speed.

      • Karolyn

        But you do buy into all the conspiracy theories perpetrated by conservatives, right?

        • Jana

          Karolyn,
          Those conspiracy theories come from the radical LEFT!

      • LAWMAN

        6 OUT OF THE 10 AUTHORS OF THE 9-11 REPORT SAY’S IT’S BUNK,THEY COULD NOT DO A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION DUE TO THE WHITE HOUSE.freedom of information act is a great thing if you use it.

    • Jerry D

      Ssshhh! Settle down. You’ve been reading too much sci fi.

    • C Schutz

      Artie….You must be one of the conspiracy people whom I believe are so dumb. The 9/11 hijackers WERE Muslims even if they were from Saudi Arabia. Also when MY ancestors came from Austria and Germany they LEARNED the language and they GOT jobs and they adapted to the life in America. Show me where the Muslims are trying to learn English and adapt to our ways. I feel bad for you…you are so misguided.

      • booker

        Why hate on Artie,the fact is they were from Saudi Arabia.AND FOUR ARE STILL ALIVE FOR SOME REASON,HOW COULD THE MEDIA RELEASE THE TERRORIST NAMES IN 1 HOUR AFTER THE HIT?.THE airlines were not even contacted until 10 am that day?just questions that need to be answered.FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT PROVES THAT NORTH COM WAS TOLD TO STAND DOWN AT 9:08 THAT DAY,JUST ANOTHER QUESTION.

    • Bruce D.

      It is not about immigration. It is about people who want to kill you because of a comic strip they do not like about Mohamaad. It is about being blown up or shot even if you like Muslims. Their guns and bombs do not discriminate. They kill everyone in sight and now they are being home grown. It is only because they are a little on the stupid side that more people, who may not even be opposed to Muslims, have not been killed in America. I never gave Muslims a second thought until lately, not even much after 9/11. It is no longer about something that is happening outside our country. It is happening here and people need to wake up. The Mosque, the Flag burning, the death to Americans, it is all starting to add up and it is not good.

    • Sapphira Sez

      Artie, you are just too stupid. I’m amazed that you’ve lived long enough to get this stupid. How old are you, anyway? 130? It would take at least that long to destroy enough brain cells to believe as you do.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Why don’t you leave? You are not welcome here. I have native American heritage, so I get to stay.

    • Jazzman-JAX-FL

      Check your history, Oliver North warned us about Osama years before this attack!

  • Bay0Wulf

    All other aspects aside, many muslims believe truly that their faith is one of peace. This is not borne out by any reading of the Qu’ran.

    Islam has been “at war” since about 624 CE with everyone who is not “of their faith”. This includes those who are “of their faith” but not of their particular sect.

    I was taught that we (europeans) did dreadful things to muslims during the Crusades and thereby earned their anger and wrath. The truth is that the Crusades were in reaction to Islamic expansionism and jihad that had been going on for … centuries … That is, Islam began to spread throughout eastern and southern europe through brutal Jihad and Terrorist acts beginning in the early 600′s … the EARLIEST Crusade of record is 1095 CE. So … for MORE than 450 years Islamic Military Conquest (Jihad) ripped almost unfettered through the mediterranian, north africa, middle east, eastern and southern europe before europeans got their act together to push back.

    If you read any of the accounts of the Islamic Expansion, you will note that the numbers of those killed or dragged off into slavery in the process run to the TENS and even HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS and include entire populations of cities … children, women, men, various religions … no matter.

    Islamic Expansion is alive and well and has NOT stopped. It will NOT stop. Instead of “In Your Face” brutality they are now, for the most part, slowly seeping into our communities and undermining our social and legal structure. It leads to the same thing, its either subjugation by conquest or pulling down the structure by inner rot and corruption.

    A basic tenet of the Islamic Faith is that ALL infidels (those not “of their faith”) MUST be converted, enslaved, removed or otherwise eliminated. These are not minor aspects of the Islamic faith, these are major points and there are MANY others;
    Kill the disbelievers [non-muslims] wherever we find them. (Sura 2:191)
    The infidels are your sworn enemies. (Sura 4:101)
    Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. (Sura 9:123)
    Prophet, make war on the infidels. (Sura 66:9)

    The bible has similar items but are not as basic to the belief AND were included for the purpose of PREVENTING just this type situation. Christians have at times perverted their faith and done horrible things but Christianity is based on “love of your fellow man” whereas Islam is based on hatred, death and destruction to all those who are not of their faith.

    Either people wake up and stop the politically correct pussy-footing around OR prepare to someday live in an Islamic world as a muslim.

    REMEMBER: the phrase “Politically Correct” (PC) is just another way of saying “Socially Acceptable Hypocrisy” (I was taught that “No-one likes a hypocrite”.

    • Jerry D

      Well said, Wulf. Good history lesson.

    • Bruce D.

      I agree, good history lesson.

    • Brad

      Bay0Wulf,

      Great input, I recently researched your quran quotes, man are you so right. Islam teaches hate, to kill the non-believer, to take over the non-believers lands and take the non-believer into slavery.

  • Edwin B. Harrison

    This is an excellent article that said what needs to be said. All anyone has to do is read their history books and they will find that Islam has only one thing on its mind and that is to destroy the western world. Call me a racist but I agree 100% with this article. All Christians need to wake up and smell the coffee because like it or not Islam is the devil’s religion. They have but one message and will always be that way.

  • john

    Let me add this..they try to silence us using words like bigot,hate monger,etc..but we as Christians have the Word of God and we know that it is truth itself and cannot fall..so lets stop cowering..as Pope John Paul 2 stated in his first address as Pope..”be not afraid”.If you want to see where the USA and Europe are headed,if not already there..look and read Romans 1:16-32…let us all turn back to God and place this nation under Him again.I am a Catholic and I hope that all Christian brothers and sisters will join together and stand under the banner of the Cross as one and confront the enemy.When Obama stated that this nation is no longer a Christian nation he is pretty much right…does this nation reflect the values of Christianity..look what we watch on tv for entertainment..it’s all sin,we place sports above God by turning our Sabbath (Sunday) into just another day,we spread abortion,pornography,contraception,gay rights upon society and upon poor nations that we should be helping,not controlling.Do we place God first ahead of everything as we should.Are men and women living and respecting each other or have we all become objects?God builds His Kingdom on earth through the family..thats why its so often attacked and mocked especially by Hollywood…American Dad,The Simpsons,Family Guy…is this how men and women should be reflected..and children.We are a selfish nation that has lost how to sacrifice..let’s show Mr Obama that he is wrong..it starts in the family..lets become a nation of Christians and let Christs light shine from our once great nation again.Parents..please keep a sharp eye upon what your children are being taught in schools and don’t be silent when you see something offensive..make your voice heard.As Christians we need to be the ears,arms,legs and voice for Christ in this world.

  • Larry Owens

    Great article. WAKE up America.

    We can NOT appease them their only Goal is to dominate
    the USA and they eventually will as we stand by and make concession after concession to every little thing that up sets them.

    Like I was hearing on Fox news this morning.

    Some jerk is now wanting fans at sporting events to STOP chanting USA, USA since it is offensive to muslims.

    We have UNGODLY leaders.

    • C Schutz

      Are you serious? God help us!

      • Cynthia

        He’s a college professor who is afraid of offending Muslims! I say to the students, yell, “U.S.A.!” at the top of your lungs as much as you want and scream, “God bless America”, too! Good, Lord! Our founding fathers are probably rolling in their graves right now!

        • Brad

          Cynthia this is what the fool had to say;

          The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.

          The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.

          The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.

          David Green,

          University Academic Professional

          • Bill

            David Green, you call yourself an American???? i’m very glad my children did not attend a college or scool where you were listed as a teacher or instructor. If you can no stand the Military Fly-overs or True Americans shouting USA, then I have a good suggestion for you. There are aircraft leaving The USA everyday, please buy a ticket and leave the USA forever. Bet your not “Man-Enough” to get in the face of the people you call “chicken-hawk” and spew the same B.S.

  • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

    All you Sunday keeping churchgoers, should have been reading the prophets instead of listening and believing your lying shepherds. Those prophets identified God’s enemies long, long ago. Jacob have I loved, and Esau I have hated. Habbukak states that God is raising up the Babylonians, that cruel and ruthless people to sweep across the earth. You people of white European descent, wake up, you are of the Lost Tribes of Israel and God is using His and our enemies to punish you for your sins.
    I promise you this, when you hear about the Sons of Jerusalem and the devastation and destruction of every muslim on earth, with Christ at the head of our army, then you will know that help is on it’s way. Why will you need help? Because you will be slaves of the muslims and your children and grandchildren will be their sex slaves.
    A day is coming that will burn like a furnace (Jerusalem will be that furnace) all the wicked will be stubble and that day will set them on fire. God will give the Sons of Jerusalem devastating power that has never been seen by man before, we will burn the muslims and all of God’s enemies, even wicked Israellites, with fire, and we will not care about collateral damage or political correctness. We will burn man, woman, and child alive and will not spare any. A few will be taken as slaves and worked to death rebuilding the Holy Land in preparation for the return of all Israel. Break open your Bible and read the former prophets and Revelation, and prepare to go willingly to your death, following in the footsteps of Christ. You have made that choice for yourselves, because you refuse to obey and believe God and act on that belief. Instead you like the comforting words that the lying shepherds feed you on the 1st day of the week. But you refuse to keep the seventh day Sabbath Holy. You are about to be paid in full for all or your sins. Abraham believed God and it was counted for righteousness. He also took 318 of his servants and slaughtered 5 kings, an army of over 10,000 and did not turn back till they were all slain. Look to the Rock you were hewn from (Christ) and to Abraham and Sarah. Remember what Sarah told Abraham, Cast out the slave woman and her son (Ishmael, the father of the scumbag Arabs) for he will not inherit (The Holy Land) with my son Isaac. In Isaac will your seed be called. God told Abraham, Take your son, your only son, Isaac, and offer him for a sacrifice on Mount Moriah, the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where the Rock is covered by that muslim abomination.
    You can pray all you want, you better pray for the strength to go willingly to your martyrdom. Thank God that He has servants who are willing to lay their lives on the line and fight God’s enemies to the death. They are called the Sons of Jerusalem and they are all taught by God, not by lying shepherds.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO:levite prophet,did you just state that all (GOYIMS)non jews will be killed,everyone and that the rest will be turned to slaves,i think youve read to much of the talmud,sounds just the same as islam,cut off all the non-believers heads,if thats what you mean just post yes.and if so i will post this now and save the space,number1 isreal did not sign the accords on human sex trafficing and is just as bad in its outlook of any ones religions,you people should just fight it out with the muslim nuts everywhere and kill each other off period as far as the peaceful jewish people and muslims,i have no problems with,the rest that follow the hate stuff,go jump in a ice cold lake and wake up to the fact america doesnt embrace crazy outlooks,we by nature are a freedom loving people,that when pushed to far,will rip out our enemys throats and hand them their hearts.to all the sick puppies go get rabies shots,your hate only turns everyone against you people.by the way a lot of american blood was spent defending isreal,weapons of mass destruction,remember that?

  • Cynthia

    Well said, John. There is nothing peaceful about Islam, and I’m tired of hearing that line. The so-called peaceful verses in the Koran were superceded by later violent ones, and all Muslims are taught to hate Christians and Jews. It’s a religion straight from the pits of Hell, and Allah is Satan. We shouldn’t be letting them into our country in the first place nor building their houses of the devil. If they don’t want to assimilate and be Americans, they need to be thrown out. They call us infidels when they themselves actually fit that definition. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whom I serve, is the One true God. All followers of other gods are infidels. Islam is a violent, intolerant cult, and we’d be better off if we don’t let them get a foothold in our country like they have in Europe. I’m also tired of people being afraid of offending them! Give me a break! Just being Americans is offensive to them! We need to stand up and be proud of our country and who we are and not kowtow to Islam.

  • http://mam obb

    they burn our flag,,, we brun 10 quran`s.. that`s how it goes.. we will stop them.. pigs blood on there ground. where they want to build. an on them, pigs blood for them all.

    • Karolyn

      Yes, sinking to a lower level always solves differences.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,

        There is nothing lower than a religion that would kill their young daughters or their wives for getting raped. There is nothing lower than a liar. These people practice these things and much much more.

  • H Kirk Rainer

    In the article and series of comments is much about Islam and Christian rift – so as to firmly plant religion as the basis for foreign war and domestic hostilities.

    But before conveniently contributing events (of the last decade) to religion, try to consider preexisting policy in the Middleast and activities aimed to control the rich oil reserves of that region.

    Ask yourself this question: if a foreign nation militarily and covertly controled by homeland, set-up and deposed governments, and conducted all other operations necessary to ensure the demands for my country’s mineral assets; How would I feel?

    But before responding to the question, read Chalmers Johnson.

    • Jerry D

      A very good point. Truth is, I’m sick and tired of our young men and women dying for oil. We have enough in the USA (if we would drill for it and, in the case of the oil shale, mine it) to be completely energy independent of other nations. But, that doesn’t change the fact that Muslims want to rule the world for allah (lack of caps deliberate).

      • Conservative at Birth

        Obama is preparing to cap and seal 3500 wells in the gulf of mexico to insure our future dependance on foreign oil. At the same time he loaned $2B to Mexico to drill in the Gulf.

  • Rick C.

    Liberals are so Islamaphobic, they are so scared to death of Islam that they will bent over backward to appease the Islamists, for example letting them build a victory mosque at ground zero. Writers that make fun of Christ every day are terrorfided of saying anything negative about Islam. It is not polical correctness it is sheer terror. Nothing that the Islamist do including stoning to death a 13 year child will bring the slightest condemnation from a Liberal. Now that is a real Islamaphobia.

  • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

    why do we have to cater to these people? i for one i am sick and tited of them and thier threats i say kick out this camel dung.

  • Bill

    -You can read how authorities are harassing Christians in Algeria,recent story.Two christian construction workers at lunchtime, hiding on the second floor eating their lunch during Ramadan. Find on internet.
    -Video: Lepost.fr/article/2010/09/19//2227322_manifestation
    - or “Manifestation islamique à Limoges”

  • http://www.productivitysystems.com Steve Thompson

    Our nation was founded as a haven for oppressed peoples, whatever their beliefs, and, as the “melting pot” of the world, these people came together in common cause to forge a society of tolerance. Regardless of the errors we committed as a nation with regard to women’s rights, slavery, our treatment of native peoples, and other practices that were common in those days – and were since largely corrected as the nation gained the enlightenment of the sea changes (paradigm shift)it had begun — The USA cannot tolerate inclusion of a people who refuse to assimilate into our society and whose stated intent is to overthrow the basic tenants of our culture and replace it with their own. Our nation has welcomed those who often fled here to escape the intolerances of their native lands. We may have to exert extraordinary measures to protect that legacy. We must do what is necessary to protect that legacy.

  • Diane Davis

    For decades, the world’s America, Israel, Christianity, and Judaism haters had sky high hopes for the success of atheistic Communism. However, Communism, with its massive propaganda and war machines and its tough talk of “We will bury you” failed to kill America, Israel, Christianity, and Judaism. The coalition of haters then turned to a faith based final solution – Islam.

    For generations, the Black Muslims have existed. How significant are they today? It is my understanding that the Black Muslim movement is “Made in USA”.

    The USA has never had complete religious freedom. The courts have always allowed for some abridgments of religious freedom. Cases in point are:

    1. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon) once believed in polygamy. They had to drop polygamy when Utah became a state. The courts ruled against the LDS Church on the issue of polygamy.

    2. Courts have routinely ordered health care and blood transfusions for minor children of Christian Science and Jehovah’s Witnesses parents. It is my understanding that Christian Science parents are now required to submit their children for routine medical care.

  • Brad

    I’m all for freemdom of religion allowing those to practice/preach to their God, but no one has so far posted a link to the Qur’an well here it is; http://quran.com/

    I did some research and looked up the quotes from within the article today, man they are true, what’s even scarrier the PC crowd will back there beliefs. The Quran does teach violance against non-muslims it’s their in black and white just read it for yourselves.

    Some posters on the left and those who support islam are turning a blind eye to the truth, we need to get real learn from the quran and us it against them, basically play them at their own game.

    • Karolyn

      As stated previously, there is a growing number of Muslims rejecting those parts of the Koran. They are the ones who should really be afraid.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        What about the lady journalist that had to quit her job and go into hiding at the FBI’s suggestion for her own safety, all because she wanted to have a contest on drawing a cartoon of Muhammad?
        She is afraid for her life as she has had so many death threats over that. So much for freedom of speech here in this case.

    • Doc Sarvis

      And the same can be said for what is in the Bible.

      • Brad

        Doc,

        Atleast the Bible has changed with the times where as the Quran hasn’t changed in thousands of year’s. Plus you are talking old testiment compared to new testiment.

  • Jim

    All the bravado in the world of how American you are, how this is your country and threatening is not going to change the growth of Islam in this country.
    Even if most, and I think that is a load of shit, muslims here are peaceful, they still bred like rats and in time muslims, good or bad will be in the majority and then do as they want.
    When that time comes the moderates will either join the radicals to save their life or they will stand with those of you that oppose the fanatics. I’m betting most will adhere to strict Islam.
    They will be in power and they will make the laws and the future generations of Americans will go like sheep to slaughter – just as the Jews did under Hitler. It happened there and it can happen here! Even now it is being instilled in the young without them knowing it like a frog in a pot of cold water that is slowly brought up to boiling! Check out the Saudi school in Virginia.
    Then we have those of you and say that “well, they can’t just do this overnight because it takes time to make amendments to the Constitution and we have the Bill of Rights and then when they show their true intentions we will know that it is time to fight!”TOO LATE!
    You damn fools! Do you think those pieces of paper will mean a thing to the insane religion of Islam? They will wipe their ass with those documents – it’ll be a change from using their bare hand!
    NO, all the words in the world will not change what very well may be the future of this country. ACTIONS are what will change your destiny and I think we all know what that action must be. The question is “how far against the wall do you have to be pushed before you stand up and take that action?”

    • Conservative at Birth

      It is time to round them up and get rid of them, period.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Maybe we should just not demonize “them”.

        • Jim H.

          Doc, Really think that would work?

  • john

    Those who mock Christ for humor while appeasing the Muslims are piling hot ashes upon their heads.They worry about the one who can kill the body while being contemtous of the one who can kill the soul.As Christians we need to take back Sundays,,shut off the golden calf thats worshipped in just about every living room and listen and talk to God.If we pray and return to fasting then the hand of God shall be merciful and heal our land.We can not do this on our own..we need to turn to Christ and give Him control over our lives.We need to live according to the will of God..something I think we all have fallen short of.Just the fact that we allow the murder of innocents in the womb to take place in the name of “choice” or convenience speaks volumes.We have become the modern Aztecs..only the alter of sacrifice is a clean metal table with sheets.Perhaps all Christians this coming Christmas should truly get in the Christmas spirit…don’t make yourself crazy trying to buy gifts in stores that refuse to acknowledge the birth of the Savior..we should simply celebrate it with family and friends without giving gifts..let the money that would have been spentto feed the economy of this Godless govt. go to some charity or church or religious organization.We need to start a revolution in the voting booths…oust all incumbents on both sides..start new with fresh faces..put everyone on notice.

    • kenneth

      I agree whole heartedly with John every bit of it. I still have a very hard time thinking it is okay for Muslims to be allowed in our country. They in my mine do not have a religion. What they have is a cult of people who are controlled by those who are in there cult who will kill or maim them if they don’t follow the cult’s ideas. The so called peace ful ones are no less Muslim in the cult. They are the appeasers. When pressed they too will do what they are told because of the pressure. Just as the pressure is on the comedians who will not tell Muslim jokes. We as a nation are becoming Solemon and Gamora because we are not standing firm with our faith. Faults Gods in any form were God’s most disliked wrongs against him. I can’t believe he would want us to stand by and watch it take us over. I believe in prayer but I also believe prayer makes us move and do the things he wants us to do. Right now we need to get this country right. Abortion, incest, gay rights, pedophilia,divorce,gambling, corruption, need to be stopped or at lest greatly reduce what is happening today. We have weaken the family to almost extinction and this just feeds more problems into our society. Now we have our government trying to act like God and make everything right for everyone except for Christians. Christians need to take this seriously and take back our God given country. We need to get ourselves together and need to act as we should everyday not just Sunday.

  • James Hay

    THIS IS WHY NON MUSLIMS SHOULD SEEK To END THIS MUSLIM INFESTATION OF THE WEST BY ANY AND ALL MEANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND NECESSARY FOR THE SAKE OF SELF-PRESERVATION OF OUR CULTURE AND NATION.APPEASEMENT OF THESE UNHOLY CREATURES WILL ONLY LEAD TO OUR DOWNFALL.WE SHOULD WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT GIVE THE MUSLIMS A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN AN EYE FOR AN EYE SO WHY NOT MAKE IT WHERE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE RAT KILLING GIVE THE MUSLIMS A CHOICE EITHER LEAVE AND RETURN FROM WHERE THEY CAME OR,DIE! WITH NO THIRD OPTION. IF WE ARE TO SURVIVE AS AN NATION AND AN PEOPLE WE MUST BE WILLING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT WE KNOW IS RIGHT WITHOUT ANY RESERVATIONS.

    • Conservative at Birth

      My sentiments, exactly!

    • http://aol Anthony Weitzel

      I agree about dealing with the muslims. They are a cult. Our worthless government is allowing all this trash to infest our country on purpose.They want to bring in the “One World Order”. That has to go too!

    • John

      Jesus was a wimp. Let us see what hate can do.

  • http://hughesnet ginny

    Other religious symbols are offensive to Islam. We as Christians and Jews must display our faith symbolicaly. We have started a project to have every home display a religious emblem visible in their front yards, on their dash boards, in the windows of their apartments/condos. We must be outward Christians/Jews instead of hiding in a closet. You can’t let your light shine if you hide it under a basket. Stand up and let your faith shine.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Ginny, what a wonderful idea!! I am going to adopt that same habit, and will encourage my neighbors to do the same. Hopefully, it will spread. I love it and thank you for the suggestion.

    • 45caliber

      Good idea. And I hope it really annoys the Atheists!

  • Ken Roberts

    Those of us that fail to recognize our enemies are doomed to being defeated on all fronts . If you do not believe that the guy beating you over the head is against you then you are a fool . I always try to determine who is at fault and as far as I can tell it is Islam that is the enemy of Christians and I am a Christian and have the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior and Lord, I apologize to no one . Also any one who believes this country was not founded on Christians principles is not at all versed in our history . Socialism was tried from the first here and it failed as the ones who were lazy and would not work sat back and let the ones who would work and then they came in at harvest and got their fair share, That was changed real quick and each person r family had so much land and what they got off of that land was theirs to keep . sound familiar it does to me as that was the way I was raised to work and keep what you want and charity was up the the individual not the collective. it worked for over 200 years and now the progressives want to go back to what does not work .

  • http://www.archivale.com/weblog/ Marc de Piolenc

    I agree that book-burners are idiots, no matter which book they choose to burn. Burning something proves only that it supports combustion. What we need are not Koran burnings, but Koran readings for the benefit of starry-eyed Infidels everywhere. The worst thing that can happen to militant Islam is for people – Muslims included – to actually become familiar with Mohammed’s vision for Mankind.
    But make sure you read a scholarly translation of the book. I have learned that the “excerpts” published in popular media are often…adjusted to make them seem more progressive and liberal.

    • Karolyn

      Just as translations and interpretations of the Bible have been “adjusted.”

  • Scout-one

    Anyone ever heard of The United States Constitution? Muslims have just as must right to practice their religions as any other faith. Yes, there are some radicals out there that want to slice off and pole my Christian head, but, not ALL of them do. They can want to ALL day long without breaking a single American law, it’s when they cross the line of doing it is when they find theirselves on the recieving end of an M-16. We absolutely ARE NOT at war with Islam, we ARE at war with any regime, cult, or organization actively planning or directly engageing in the practice of harming innoscent people. Get it straight! I am 100% Christian and American. I have, and would willingly do it again, faced these radicals in the field. I do not fear Islam or death itself, for my faith in Jesus will take me to a better place when I leave here. I do not agree with a mosque being built near ground zero, nor do I agree with ANY church of any faith being built there. Only two more towers have the right to stand that ground. I do however believe that when radicals come to my town, they should have a mosque erected, it gives me a tactical advantage ;). Let’s not be confused folks, the Constitution guarentees the right to freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Those wishing to provoke a war with a mans faith are unaware of the brutality they are requesting, especially if that faith happens to be mine. LET THEM COME!

    • http://MSM.com LeRoy

      Scout-one— Get your head out of your ass. These people are taking this country over and if they aren’t stoped you will be, in a few short years. People like you is the reason Oboma is able to give this country away. you don’t have a clue.

    • Jim

      Yeah, Scout-one, I’ve heard of the Constitution and desire to keep it in it’s place and meaning something worthwhile. What I don’t want is to have it hijacked by a bunch of idiots that follow a “religion” that belongs back in the dark ages and thos eidiots are still there themselves.
      For God’s sake and for the sake of this ocuntry, that gives you the right to say what you want as long as it does not threaten to take over the government and this country by force, turn off the reality shows, sit down at your computer and bring up an English translation of the qur’an.
      It is very apparent, that those writing here that follow the garbage along the lines of what you have posted, know nothing of Islam, what it stands for, what it’s goals are, what it’s histroy is or anything else about it.
      Maybe you are a male that can’t wait to they take over so you can join up and have 4 wives and beat the hell out of them. If not, and you are a woman, you are either a sadist, nuts or just plain stupid and have no idea to what depths your standing in this country will become and what humiliation and degradation you will suffer under shari’ah law.
      For your own sake, get educated beofre you speak on a subject!

    • Speak2Truth

      You may not be at war against Islam but Islam is at war against you. Mainstream Islam has an agenda to force the entire world to submit to Islamic rule. The “extremists” and the “fringe” are those who claim to be Muslims but do NOT obey the edicts of Islam to force the world into submission. They are insignificant and are not running the mosques.

      Mainstream Islam has been at war against this nation ever since the Declaration of Independence was signed. Thomas Jefferson recommended creation of a Navy and Marine Corps to fight back against Islamist attacks on our ships. It worked. For a while.

      Now, they are building strength on our soil and bullying America into fearing to “offend” them. ISLAM IS WINNING THE WAR. Why? Because Americans are too politically correct to admit what they can see with their own eyes, so Islam has free rein to build strength and control while Americans fret and dither… when Islam is ready to make the final move for control of this country IT WILL BE TOO LATE.

      A wise man does not let a lion inside the pale.

  • Peter Carminati

    When are we going to realize that all we need to do is:
    STAND UP AND TELL THE RADICALS TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP AND GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY?

    Numbers do make a difference when the anti-Muslim tally surpasses 90%. Why should a few terrorize the many?

  • Dan Smith

    I’m with you – it’s past time to say, “To Hell with Islam!” Sharia Law is incompatible with the foundations of our American Republic. Muslims want us to tolerate them, but they do not play well with others. When I hear the word “Muslim”, I think “terrorist”. We don’t need those kind of people in our midst.

  • Rick

    If you don’t think that radical Muslims are a problem, consider the
    fact that even though they only represent 1% of all Muslims allegedly,
    that still numbers them at over 10 million. That number is three times
    the size of the American military, and probably more than the Chinese
    army. It only took 20 of these people to kill nearly 3,000 people on
    9/11/2000, so by comparison, those 10 million have the potential of
    killing over a billion people in the name of Alah.

  • Chris

    Ok, so Muslims pray in the streets of NY, where are the Christians? Let’s see if the Christians of New York will take to the streets and pray in public. Up for a Challenge New York Christians?

    • Speak2Truth

      That is what must be done. Hold a Christian mass outside on the street starting 1/2 hour BEFORE the Muslims start to gather there for their prayers. Same spot. Claim it.

      If any arrests are made, sue the city for allowing Islam to take over the street but not Christianity. Make ‘em pay for giving favoritism to Islam.

      • Jana

        Speak2Truth,
        This is a good one, and don’t forget to take your bacon or pork chops with you. It doesn’t have to be a whole package, just one or two strips of bacon per person or one pork chop will do the trick.
        Someone needs to invent bacon scented spray!

  • http://gmail i41

    Artie,Get out from the back side of that stinking burka, either you have never built a damn thing but dream up stupid crap. Those buildings basically melted from kerosene burning you moron. The islamic ideology is a scourge. You herd enough “victum” miniorities together, and suddenly USA and whites are evil and hates any “victum”. Which even when the laws are created to give them special favors, whites try and intermingle and protect their sorry rears. Put any group of minorities in a work settings and the victum b–l s–t comes quickly to the surface, it either skin color, language, skills, or for the goat ranglers, their religions. If you are hired in the USA to do a job, drop the poor me crap and if you think it impedes you chance to stick your rear in the air, don’t work there! Experience has proven ther first generation of new workers, were alwayys giving their fullest ability, it was the 2nd generations on that were the biggest screw offs, and this was the facts with mexicans, EU, and other non muslims, muslims are always working against the production flow or rythum on the job site. Muslim are ingrain attitude of not assimalating and to take over religion of the new area, the goat and camel riding attitudes and female worthlessness. If the queers and muslims want to be accepted is put those to counter productive groups should be closely grouped for several years and if they can learn to adjust and get along, then see where it leads. Muslims are doing to the USA as the did to Lebanon, which their Constitution was modeled after the USA’s. Equal representation in the legidlative part of government. Show up with a boar hog Amuhd and his 5 or more sows and breed like dogs, 20 years later the goat ranglers have the control, there is no peaceful muslims, just the smuck idoits waiting for a order to put down the goat or dog and grab your knife. Get rid of the crap of not having multi languages being spoken in voting, schools, busi nesses and government. Who do we thank for the crap system, the socialist artsy farsty feel good democraps and get along rino pukes. When officals can locate where a reactyive bovine hits the slaughter floor in hours, but illegals cann’t be located or found, what gutless asses are at f–king up, the socialist democrat run agencies and the passive understanding idoit public. The degreed pukes in the agencies could locate or track a bull elephant breaking trail through snow banks, book smarts but still just dummer than a pile of cow dung. These same morons don’t see how damn dangerous muslims not assimalating and wanting special entillments and favors is a danger to America, cann’t prayer or mention God in school for America school kids, but kids can be taken to a mosque or have to pretend they are muslim, but reversal of studying Christanity. Do I have a problem if my church gets monitored, but with all of muslim gathering get off out in the promote crap, monitor them non stop,KKK, shinheads, Aryaran Brotherhood get monitored for inciting unrest, don’t think Black Panthers, Caylso Louie, Rev. Wright, and all imans are promoting unrest and inciting strife!

  • momo

    Deport all muslims beginning with the closet muslim in the white house.

    • Doc Sarvis

      What in the world makes you think that President Obama is a Muslim?

      • http://schema-root.org John

        There is a little chip, implanted in his brain, that tells him this.

        • Jana

          John,
          No, there is a little chip in Obama’s brain that makes him act like one.

  • john

    We are wasting our time and the lives of American soldiers in a region that will never know peace.That part of the world is like a giant beehive.Now that beehive is shaken.We felt it’s sting on 9-11-01.Now we need to exterminate the threat…at least here on our soil.The problem with the Middle East is that most it’s people are tribal..they will never conform to Western culture or Western civilization.Then we have people who have no clue about religion or God trying to broker peace deals with these people,they have no clue of the history of those nations because they’ve never read the bible.How do you fight such people?The same way we did against the Indians..you find one tribe that will be your ally,never trusting them though,wipe out the side your fighting and when your done ,you turn on the one who helped you..because they too will eventually become the next problem.Over here we need to restrict the emigration of Muslims and disallow the building of Mosques..these are nothing but beehives themselves.We need to play cowboys and Muslims.They need to be eradicated from our land.We need to recognize that we are being silently invaded.

    • 45caliber

      Actually, I don’t believe we are wasting lives in the Mid-East. Money? Yes. We shouldn’t be trying to “rebuilt” their countries. Particularly we shouldn’t be building it better to make it another US.

      I would much rather have those there in turmoil than working together to come here to do their attacks.

  • Les Moore

    For an intelligent and well read person you still hammer the “idiot’ approach to this matter and seem to completely miss the point. The function of the Quran burning was to peel back the thin religious veneer of “Moderate Islam” and politically correct niceness. That was accomplished simply with the threat of burning a book. It also exposed the delusion in America that we are somehow playing on a level playing field, Muslims have ‘special’ rights and are above other religions. It is also an appropriate act of Christianity (Acts 19:19), so whether or not you accept the Bible, what Pastor Terry was doing is quite appropriate. You may feel that such an act of scriptural obedience and public declaration of evil to be the act of an ‘idiot’; but I consider your statement to be very poorly thought out and a bit ‘holier than thou’. I have held many publications burnings; pornography, lying study materials, false history textbooks and books that promote witchcraft or perverted lifestyles. We did not seek the destruction of the publisher (if anything it would help them, we owned the books). It is done as an act of defiant repentance by those that have been subjugated to the corruption or perverseness promoted in that material. You will see more of this in Europe as the vanishing cultures awaken to the insidious invasion and genocide by attrition that they face, which you have alluded to in your demographics statement.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    ”you’re either with us, or against us” Was the most polarizing IGNORANT MORONIC, HIGH SCHOOL, Statement ever made in Time of national Crisis. It had only one purpose and anyone who decided its correct was/is a sheep, no better then the german Sheep who followed Hitler, and those Tried and Nuerenburg for “Just Following Orders”.

    No I dont Condone Any terrorist attack, nor do I partake in Criticizing our troops for what they have to do in Combat.

    But dont tell me me I have to be with you or else I am against you. Thats an emotional responce I expet to find in marital disputes, not from a national “Leader”.

    • 45caliber

      Please go rant somewhere else. You are contribuing nothing to this forum.

  • http://yahoo.com penny

    look back in history thomas jefferson, said to not study politics but to study religion. when the muslims were taking our citizens off ships in mediterranian and making slaves of the killing them and ransoming them . he sent our first navy to stop the lunacy and our guys won and we had peace for over 100 years. the ambassador from tripoli told him to hisx face and john adams that they were to kill all infidels men women children babies no one was innocent for allah.the other nations paid ransom. it has not changed look at somalia. our little boys were made eunaches to guard the harems

  • Russell

    I’m with some of you, if the Muslims don’t like our country and Christian way of life, what in the hell are they doing here if not to eventually fulfill the Koran,s dictates of islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave all non believers? I say with the majority of you “TO HELL WITH ISLAM” Get the hell back where you came from. We will keep our way of life, right to own guns to defend our selves and start go back where you came from campaign until you get the idea, YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE, ISLAM.

    • 45caliber

      One of the things the Quran tells Muslims is that all wealth belongs to them. They are to kill any non-believer and take it any way they can.

      I believe many of them are coming here because they are trying to take our wealth. And I believe our government is helping them do it.

      In fact, the Small Business Administration has a program, locally at least, that aids them in buying the convienience stores. How many of them are run by Muslims in your area? They get 1% loans for 100% of the money needed to buy and have up to 100 years to pay it back. One family locally bought a store, the house behind it and about ten acres of property. Their payment is less than $100 a month. But when non-Muslims considered buying it the best they could do was over $1000 a month – which the store can’t provide in profit.

  • BrotherPatriot

    Islam is one of the two greatest threats against America.

    Once you become educated about the “religion” you can see that they have no intention of co-existing with anyone of a different faith. They will slowly infiltrate and then given enough time, their reproduction will eventually allow them to gain a majority in the lands they invaded. We simply have to become aware of this as a Nation and not allow them to do such a thing…which is easy enough by using their very Koran as our evidence to prevent their immigration. Any religion that invokes hate and calls for the death of any non-believers would give us the ammunition to set policy…thus preventing any immigration from such a sect of people. Call them for what they are…a bunch of locusts who’s intent is to destroy everyone who is not of their religion.

    The second greatest threat to America of course is the social degenerates who are pushing for the New World Order. Wealthy bastards who want to control everything…both Islam & the Bilderberg people are our two greatest threats against the sovernity of America.

    Recognise thy enemies and understand them.

    • wth

      Maybe if the Zionists would get outa Palestine, we wouldnt have Muslims living here. All they want is to live. Id rather have them than all of these Jewish Banksters, Movie makers, porn kings,perverts. Serial killers, rapists. They all try to pass for white. They arent. They are Levantine. They hate white America. The Muslims never gave us a second thought until we helped the Jews steal Palestine.

      • 45caliber

        And if the Zionists (as you call them) are to get out of Israel just where would you have them go? Here? Not from your ranting! So where? And why should that land belong to the Muslims rather than the Jews anyway? Both have some right to it. You sound more like a racist than a conservative or liberal.

        • JeffH

          45caliber, It would be impossible for the Zionists to leave Israel. The Rothschilds are one of the originators of the Zionist movement and made deals with Israel to build the Israel Supreme Court and Parliment.

          • BrotherPatriot

            True dat ^^…and who really are the Rothschilds and what “fraternity” do they belong to…and what are they connected into?…virtually everything.

            Illuminati

            Recognise your enemy & know them.

    • 45caliber

      BrotherPatriot:
      I agree with you. I have a copy of the Quran on my computer and will look up verses to see whether people are quoting correctly. I’ve read some of it and the commands there (and these are commands) are plainly why the Muslims act as they do.

    • JeffH

      BrotherPatriot, well said.

  • marvin

    remimber what paul told the people at corinth ya i know you have a lot of religion[superstition]as the old saying when in rome will people we an,t in rome,if you come to my country learn my language,i speak english, not hindu or aribic or spanish,if i walk down the street with a rag over my face the cop would have me so ether fit in or go home,where ever that may be, i am an american citizen not a subject,i think you have a right to belive in mohammed,buddha,satan,confucius,or jim jones,but when you start trying to tell me who or what to belive ,you can say i come in piece but don,t start your uneducated [most people that come here are from poor countrys]i demand this,you can come in piece but you will go in pieces

  • Bitter Libertarian

    On a related note….IF its my property and i wish to burn it…My second amendment right will trump your displeasure of my right to do with my property as I please.
    Think I will go find one, buy it and Burn it just because I can and have every right to do so.
    Now the Mosk thing…heres where I part ways with some/most here..who gives a rats arse! If its private property they can do what they want as long as its in compliance with whatever the zoning laws are, like it or not.
    We..all of us need to start living like we want to live in a republic, not a Democracy where 51% win and 49% suffer with the BS!

    • Ron

      Bitter – 70% of Americans give a rats arse

  • http://jimmy.joe.image@hotmail.com jimmy joe

    i agree with everything that is said in this article.but the problem is more severe,and dangerous than just islam.illegal immigrants have no intentions to assimilate,into the american dream.only to abuse the system,exploit themselves as victims of american aggression,and oppression,bleed the taxpayers dry,and transform america,into big mexico;hyphenated americans.who have made it clear they have more loyalty to the country,(africa)that sold their ancestors,into slavery;that still today does.worships,and bows to the alter,of the political party(the democrat party)that were their ancestors slaveowners/traders,and oppressors.and still are.and despise the religious beliefs,and political party,of,abe lincoln;that,sacrificed,over 600,000,of their own to give their ancestors their god given right to pursue the american dream;and still does today.no;instead they love the party of involuntary servitude/slavery;(the democrat party)stealing the fruits of labors of others,their lives liberties,rights,property,and opportunity’s,so they can be like their ancestors slave master.that have the slave master mentality today’s democrat party;they are just under new management;with new victims they prey on;which are orthodox conservative judeo-christian principaled u.s. constitution,and bible believing, pro-israel americans;black,hispanic,white,jewish,male,and female,conservatives,especially if they are pro-america,pro-israel,christians,and jews;are the most discriminated against in society today.that has to change; or america will be under the atthority,and sovereinty,of the united nations,and no longer an independent soverein nation,seperate from a world,and nations run by seperatist,and segregationist;which is what the democrat party base stands in alliance with seperatism,and segregation,collectivism,government reign, over individual,and religious freedom;the base of the democrat party,moderate republicans, and independents believe more in collectivism,so did all the worlds dictators that is what seperates us from them,and why america reached the level of success,prosperity,opportunity,and world envy that is has;until the democrat partys collective dominance mentality which divides a nation against itself;vs.individual,and religious freedom;which brings all peoples,tongues,and nations together as one,in common respect for each other,that respects the same of others;without the fear of others believing that those others than themselves do not have the right to exist;progrssive liberalism is as big a threat to human life,and liberty as islam;both believe,and worship “lucifer’s law”that their will is exalted above god,humanity,free will,liberty,and law;”or those who dis-agree,or is an obstacle,or inconvenient,to their obsessions,and addictions,do not have the right to exist;last those who use their power to destoy,by way of threats and intimidation of law abiding citizens,and mental,and spiritual rape of america;s children,by way of education,media,literature,and culture pimps;such as teachers unions;who are nothing less than licensed park bench child predators,and pedophiles,seiu,aflcio type labor unions who are nothing less than modern day mafia,hit squads,and economic terrorist,just as is the government pimp politicians,and pork whore politicians,that commit adultery with them,against their oath to be loyal to the law,and the constitution;it is these that give shari’a law islam it’s power;”the enemy of my enemy is my friend”the same pledge their allegience to the united states of america,to get elected,then give their allegience to the united nations after they are elected;to exalt their dream of a new world order,one world government power;and the demise of the american dream;the writer of this article was correct about islam;but didn’t quite explain how islam got it’s power from those seperatist believers,like adolph hitler,mao-se tung,saddam hussein,fidel castro,hugo chavez,kruschef to putin,north korea to iran,yemen,darfur to sudan,to somalia;progressive liberalism is identical in their goals,against individual,and religious freedom,haters of humanity,and free will;while moderates are today’s version of neville chamberlain,that appeases evil as chamberlain did hitler;the only time they are brave is when they are throwing one of their own under the bus;as a sacrifice to satisfy the unsatisfiable lust,of evil;example;the natives in the movie king kong,that sacrificed one of their own,hoping it would keep king kong from eating them;moderates are liberals in drag;self preservation,and power,over personal sacrifice,and principals;”know them by their fruits”if they say;”we need a bigger party,not a purer party;”thats political code spin for; character,truth,honor,integrity,personal responsibility,self reliance,self sacrifice,and principals don’t matter,only power for powers sake,greed for greed sake,and self-preservation,loyalty to the highest bidder,for their own sake;jimmy joe;”the liarfryer”

    • 45caliber

      I think that with the way America is now going, we will eventually see the US break up. (Hopefully not in my lifetime.) Many citizens of other countries think so. Mexico (La Raza) wants the South-West US for their own. Cubans want Florida. The blacks want sections. The Muslim wants it all but particularly wants the NE and some of the South. The only problem is that there is no room for anyone else in their little kingdoms.

  • Norm

    . Muslims are not commanded to kill Christians.
    · The Prophet of Islam ( Prophet Muhammad) taught that Christians and Jews were ‘people of the Book (Bible)’ and did not tell his followers to forcefully convert them to Islam. Christians and Jews throughout history have lived peacefully in Muslim countries, all they had to do was pay a tax. This tax allowed them to live in a Muslim country, and by paying this tax they did not have to fight in the army if the country was in war.
    · Since the middle of the twentieth century, terrorism has broken out from Muslim communities. Many Muslims tell us that killing is against the teachings of Islam and that terrorism can not be supported. But this terrorism is less about religion and more about the perceived humiliation of their secular leaders by those whom a small minority believe to wish to harm the Muslim world.
    · The Koran ( the Muslim holy book) does not support the killing of innocents. Many people including some Muslim extremists have taken verses out of context from the Koran and used them to justify their actions. If you clearly read the text, you can see that Koran actually states that Killing is one of the worst sins to commit, and it can only be done for self defense.

    Interesting:
    http://www.islam101.com/religions/christianity/christ_islam.html

    • 45caliber

      Norm:

      It doesn’t matter what Mohammed said about Jews and Christians; it is what is taught today. (Incidently, he did rave a lot against the Jews in particular.) And too many of today’s fundamentalists (which include many of their clergy) believe and preach that all Jews be killed and all Christians either be killed or enslaved. So all your notes about Mohammed mean nothing.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Thank you for that Norm. I believe that the further Muslim’s, Christians, Democrats, republicans, Constitutionists all get from the beginning/the foundations the more SCREWED UP THE FOLLOWERS BECOME.

      At some point the table must be cleared of the wreckage of Confusion, corruption and Chaos to start over. Just as a Field is cut, and the earth is rotated to grow fresh crops. So Too shall America need the same.

      Those deluded to believe that this wont end in revolt are fools. No tyrant, elite, radical, or terroriist (domestic or foreign) will change their adjenda at the ballot box.

    • Brad

      Norm,

      From the Quran;

      2: 191 And kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you, and fitnah is worse than killing. And do not fight them at al-Masjid al- Haram until they fight you there. But if they fight you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.

      4: 101 And when you travel throughout the land, there is no blame upon you for shortening the prayer, [especially] if you fear that those who disbelieve may disrupt [or attack] you. Indeed, the disbelievers are ever to you a clear enemy.

      9: 123 O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous.

      66: 9 O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

      here is the link Normy http://quran.com/ I won’t sugar coat anything, this is the type of religion you ae willing to support/allow to continue. Islam is a cult plain and simple, their religious leaders have bought into the system and have brainwashed the sheeple for thousands of years. I started reading small parts of the Quran to try and understand the religion. After reading chap 1 & part of 2 the beginning mimicks the bible “Adam & his wife”, “Moses leading the isrealites out of bondage in Eygpt”, “Receiving the commandments”, all which mimick the bible. As you can see each passage was taken from the Quran.

      Normy get your facts strait before you post again.

      • Norm

        Brad
        From the bible:

        You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20

        Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10

        Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16

        Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

        Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
        Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20

        Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

        Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

        Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22

        Go up, my warriors, against the land of Merathaim and against the people of Pekod. Yes, march against Babylon, the land of rebels, a land that I will judge! Pursue, kill, and completely destroy them, as I have commanded you,” says the LORD. “Let the battle cry be heard in the land, a shout of great destruction. (Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)
        If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, “You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord.” When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

        • Jana

          Actually Norm,
          God did not back then or now intend for His people to hug up to and worship any false god.
          It says in Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth to any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed. (And it will still happen on the day of judgement.) This is a little different than what your Muslim site said.

          Likewise this is also what God was instructing those in Deuternonomy.
          He likens anyone serving a false god as a whore.

          Deut. 17: 2-7 If any man or woman has been caught serving false gods and worshipping them and it has been proved, then God said to stone them, at the mouth of 2 to 3 witnesses, but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
          God wants a set apart people, that will dispense Truth, and His Truth only. Satan wanted to destroy the lineage that Christ was to come through, and God protected that lineage.

          Mark 6:11 says,”And whoseover shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, it shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrrha in the day of judgement, than for that city.
          Hmmm, still very different from what you copied from your Muslim website.

          In Jude verse 5 He is telling the church that there have been certain men that have crept in unawares who are unGodly men and he was REMINDING them what God did in the Old Testament after He brought His Children out of the land of Egypt how when they fell away the Lord destroyed them that believed not.
          You wrote:
          Whoever denies “that Jesus is the Christ” is a liar and an anti-Christ. 1 John 2:22
          This scripture you have pretty right, but the King james says,
          22: Who is a liar, but he that denieth that Jesus is the christ? He is anti Christ that denieth the Father and the Son.

          You Norm are antiChrist because you are against Christ. Plain and simple.

          As for the rest of it, if you go back and read in the King James which more closely follows in line with the original manuscripts you will see the reason God gave these orders. By the way the Israelites did not go around and do this all of the time, only except when God insturcted them to do so. When they did something in disobedience to what God told them, they were punished. God did not want them to go off on their own and kill other nations that He hadn’t told them to destroy. If they tried they were punished.

          You do not see Christians going around killing someone that does not believe in the One True God today do you? If you did, you might be on the list, but we don’t. However we do see the Muslims who serve Islam going around with the mandate of killing their enemies and lying to their enemies.
          Actually, all you have done by going to the Islamic website for your information to try and discredit the Word of God, is to show how truly patient our God is.
          When Jesus came in the flesh, we started a dispensation of time called the period of Grace. We are still in that period of time now.

          PRAISE THE LORD.

          • Jana

            Looks like Norm still didn’t get his facts straight!

    • Jana

      Yes Nor, and you took all of that right out of the Islamic playbook for confusing the gullible.

      • Norm

        Jana
        It apperars you did the same with the bible playbook.

        I repeat:
        “The whole history of these books (i.e. the Gospels) is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.”
        Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, January 24, 1814

        • Jana

          Norm,
          Nice try. But wrong.
          You have to take someone elses word for it. I actually am a student of the word of God, therefore I do know. You see when you bother to study about something you find that actually there aren’t inconsistencies and tricks. God said what He meant and meant what He said. When you study the Word you understand what it means, you go back to the copies of the original manuscripts and see what the actual intent was, and see also where a mistake might have been in the translation. By the way, when King James had the Manuscripts translated into English, the Translators wrote a very long letter explaining that they did the best they could under their understanding according to the times. Our understandings of today through DNA and science have even made God’s Word more relevent for today.
          Serious students of the Word do not use the translations of the translations or the watered down versions. They want to know what the manuscripts said so they use the King James so they can also use the other tools that go with it, Concordance, Bible dictionaries etc.

          If you Norm would rather follow Islam fine, go for it. But if you want to argue, tell it to God. He is the One who said it. But don’t spew your lies!

          • Jana

            The Bbile also states in Isaiah 5:20-21, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light (whih means refuse to see the truth)and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! Woe unto THEM THAT ARE WISE IN THIER OWN EYES AND PRUDENT IN THEIR OWN SIGHT.
            The New Testament
            Romans 1:22, Professing themsleves to be wise, they became fools.

            That is when a man tries to corrupt or lie about God and His Word. As I said before, if you don’t like it tell it to God, He said it.

          • Norm

            Jana

            Top Ten Signs You’re a Fundamentalist Christian

            10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

            9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

            8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

            7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

            6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

            5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

            4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

            3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

            2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

            1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

          • Jana

            Top One sign you are pathetic
            NORM

            Top One Sign you have no common sense
            NORM

          • Viktor Leben

            Norm,

            Great post, I’m from dirt ! YEAH !!! HA HA !

            10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

            Actually Norm, I don’t deny the existence of other gods – and I consider myself a FUNDIE ! Having a low IQ – What religion would I be ?

            9 – You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

            Actually I wish sometimes Evolution were true. It sounds so good in all the sci-fi programs I watch like the various Star Trek series. I really like the various actresses like Jolene Blalock and Jeri Ryan …
            I guess originating from ” dirt” probably would better pertain to me ! Actually – it’s a compliment ? My wife always ask -”Where did I find you !!” when she’s upset at me …. I reply “Under a Rock” ……

            8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

            I believe in “Tillich’s” view somewhat of a “God above God” … meaning to objectify my understanding of God’s attributes is somewhat hopeless in the respect that God pre-existed before Human Reason. But have Faith .. the reality of Jesus Christ sure helps in explaining God ….

            7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

            You expressing your own ethical view … It seems ?? I can’t even attempt to judge God. If that’s what God wants it’s OK with me !!!

            6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

            Actually – I believe their were demi-gods in history. Where did you get this from ? Their are probably demi-gods walking around today. We look at the gods as “fallen angels”. I’m pretty sure their are more than a few women living today who have “got it on” with them !

            Does that scare you ? YES they do exist — the Nephilim — and they are among us ….

            Is it to much to believe that God’s Spirit gives life ? That a virgin could miraculously conceive ? That God took on a body descending genetically from Adam’s race ?

            5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

            On the age of the Earth … delta T – time dilation. You know what I’m talking about. A light year was a bigger distance thousands of years ago compared to a light year today. Work the math. Delta T = ? solves the starlight problem ….

            But I could be totally wrong (probably am, I’m no astrophysicist ) So I take what the Bible says by Faith and try my hardest not to read anything into it (not always successful – assumption make a ass out of you)

            Don’t let it bother you. Who can deny that Bronze Age man had some answers – before modern man could conceive the questions …

            4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs — though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

            Hell, that’s the Reality of it all. As for being a tolerant and loving practitioner – you got to be kidding ? Right ? I’m just human like everyone else.

            3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

            Actually, what proves it to me is the Bible. That’s what I believe. Other opinions of so called learned men/women contrary to the Bible, I reject. It doesn’t mean I’m smart – I HAVE A CHEAT SHEET ! It’s called the Bible. If your looking for scholars … I’m not one. I want a terse to the point answer, not absurdity. You probably also feel the same way ? Read Josh McDowell “Evidence that demands a verdict” – He’s pretty smart.

            2 – You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

            Actually, here’s my view on answered prayer … In the Lord’s prayer “give us this day our daily bread” is very important that God answers yes. But getting a date with a SI swimsuit model or winning the lottery … I don’t think Jesus had that in mind when He taught us how to pray. But then again I could be wrong … My wife is hot looking to me … But I haven’t won the powerball yet … God has a sense of humor …

            1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

            Isaac Asimov knew more about the Bible than I do. What’s wrong with that ? Lighten up it’s just a discussion, not a contest to see who is the smartest. You could always go on Jeopardy and make some money …

            Norm, you’re OK ! I’m not the best example of a “Fundie”. as their are alot of more intelligent “Fundies” out their you can have a decent conversation with. You should befriend a few “Fundies” – go to their CHurches, eat those great church dinners ! Get invited over “Fundie” family houses for a good meal. Just tell them you’re the “token atheist/agnostic” who attends their church – Your attendance is required by law …. HA HA !

            Praise the Lord and pass the potatoes !!!

  • Howard Roark

    It was my understanding that Terry Jones backed down on the book burning because the Muslim world threatened to KILL him. so much for the religion of peace.

    as for the supposed moderate Muslims, I have noticed that many Americans wonder that when the radical Muslims carry out a horrific act why dont the moderate Muslims step forwaed and raise holy hell about what their brothers are doing.

    The answer is simple. there is a provision in Muslim law called Taqiyya that allows Muslims to disquise themselves as somethjing else as long as it will advance Islam. so you see that when a horrific act is done by the “radical” Muslim the “moderste Muslem are in hiding cheering.

    • Ron

      You sir are 100% right.

    • 45caliber

      I think the moderate Muslims say nothing for the same reason many of our policitians are saying a lot in favor of Islam – they fear being attacked by their fundamentalists.

      We just had a Muslim father in Houston kill his three children. The reason? He was abusive to the children and his wife. She left him. They were going to be divorced and she had gathered enough information to see that he didn’t get custody of the kids. So he shot them instead. He did try to kill himself too, but blotched it.

  • Norm

    “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”
    - Thomas Jefferson

    • Angel Wannabe

      WoW Norm, you found someone to agree with you, probblem is he’s dead!!!

      • Norm

        Angel Wannabe
        He was also one of the key architects of the US and the third president. Was he wrong on the Constitution and Religion?

        • Angel Wannabe

          Norm, all of us can find conviction and truth, even in the most blatant of lies. It’s like finding something good in a train wreck!! Most times it’s done to prove a point or to appear right?!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Norm, I refer to it as manipulation, and exactly what you left your Government do to you!

          • Norm

            Angel Wannabe
            Which “blatant lies” are you referring to? Is it Jefferson’s quote or his involvement in creating the US, or both?

  • ONTIME

    Having fought a major revolution in order to gain personal freedoms the idea that some islamic nut is wanting to force me or anyone else into accepting their ideology so that they can tell me what to do, is more than ludicris.

    Trading the tyrant of taxation for one of a supposed religion of a warped ideology, is like asing if you want to put up with hemarrhoids or going blind. What the hell is the matter with these weak minded losers that makes them think they are mankinds answer, this type of faulty thinking got Hitler and a few of his buds killed and it can happen again if they don’t get it thru their thick little skulls that rights and freedom of religion is inalienable and a gift from God not some moron.

  • Russ

    I am tired of all of it, Islam, Judaism, Kwanza and a host of other stupidity. Christianity is in no way associated with Judaism, so for the ignorant people who keep touting that, go read and get a brain. Judaism is Talmudism and Talmudism is anti Christian. Get it through your head they don’t believe in Jesus. it was they who brought Islam here by changing our immigration policy in 1965 and by mixing up our country. Why are Americans so stupid as to the obvious facts? I wish they would all go home, including all the illegals from Mexico. America was a European country and when it was, that was what made it great. Now that it’s lost it’s identity, America is just another third rate sewer. You want your country back? Then stop voting for the Israeli first candidates who have sold their soul and this country down the drain. Every word the media chants, some dim brain recites in these forums. Why not go study a while and come back and give us some real truth. The truth is that most of you have been duped, just like the majority of Americans are duped. You send your kids to die for Israel and you give them your hard earned money in taxes. Globalization is a plan of the Jewish elite from long ago, just like communism is and was, just like capitalist thieving is. Most are too busy chanting how great we are in America and feeling like you are patriotic waving flags, but in reality you are being used to destroy yourself and your family’s future. How could anyone vote for Obama, knowing his past and seeing his associations before the election. it was obvious that he has storng ties with communists and liberal radicals. McCain on the other hand was no better, his dad covered up the USS Liberty incident and McCain is nothing but a stooge for the families I already spoke about. You want to get rid of Islam in America, get rid of the people controlling the government and vote in a REAL American who does not want a New World Order and globalization, someone who will change the control of the media which is in the hands of a small minority. That’s why none of you know the truth. Just my opinions, no offense. America is dead in my book, just a rotting corpse.

  • Tom

    DOC,
    I DON’T KNOW WHO YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU ARE BUT YOU MUST MAKE ONE HELL OF A SIGHT WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.

    • Russ

      Jews burnt Christian Bibles not that long ago in Israhell, so why wasn’t there an uproar about it? Because Jews own the media and don’t report on their bad behavior. Jews were just one tribe of Israel, not Israel!!!!! Why such fuss about symbolically burning the Islamic Bible? They burn American flags all the time.
      I say ship all of them back to where they came from. Jews included.
      Our whole problem stems from allowing the idea of diversity is our strength. Diversity is our death as is evidenced in every nation that allowed it to take place. All great empires fell in the past after allowing the dominant culture to be overrun with a bunch of arguing minorities, worrying about their rights in our country. I can tell you, they sure as hell don’t worry about our rights when in their country. Why are white Americans so damn stupid and refuse to see the real issue here? Everyone’s rights are protected by the Jewish controlled media, except white folks of European descent. The real victims are the Europeans who really made America the great country she was. Send them all home, the only people that have real rights to this country are Whites, natives and blacks. Send the rest to their Middle East sewer and stay out of their business. Send all the mexicans packing that came here illegally. It’s time to put an end to all the lowlife arguments of religion because America was and still is based on Christian principals…but not for long if we refuse to act much longer. Jews are not Christians, so get a life and do some homework. Remember the Pollard affair, the US Liberty, the Lavon affair, I could go on and on with the attacks by jews on America….so why are they never mentioned? We are in the Middles East because of Israel. You are ignorant if you cannot see it. Go read General Pattons Diary and benjamin freedmon’s speech at the Willard Hotel in 1963. By God they have done it to us..and most Americans are too dumb to see it or to read. I am not attacking anyone, but I am stating the facts according to American Generals and that my eyes see. They were prophets in their early estimations of what was taking place. Go read a site if you really want to know the truth. The whole time frame is covered. Read

      http://jewwatch.com

      If you read all that you will understand the bigger problem and WHY it has all taken place.
      These are all my opinions, so if you don’t like my opinions, show me where I am wrong with documented evidence, not name calling.

  • Bob Neitzke

    As a youth I sat in front of a Black and white TV and watched
    Nikita Cruschev pound his shoe at the UN. I recall the Russians
    promising to BURY us.

    Mutually Assured Destruction WORKED back then.

    WHY NOT NOW !
    What is different ?
    We have a wild animal trying to come into our house.

    Simply RETARGET some of our vast arsenal and make the warning.

    It is simple Sharia law.

    The Terrorists can understand that.

    If you hit us we will hit back !

    Plane into buildings = Cruise missiles into Terran

    Nuk a the USA = MECCA and every other Islamic Holy Disappears

  • Seabird

    You are correct John Myers. It is long past time to say To Hell With Islam. But more than that, it is long past time to deny them the right to stay in our Country. And personally, I couldn’t care less if anyone thinks it’s “Un-Christian” to think this way. It is Un-Christian to commit suicide and that is what we are doing by allowing these “infidels” to exist in our nation. Yes, I call them the “Infidels” because they believe in a false god. If we went by their logic, then that would mean we should annihilate all of them. There is no such animal as a MODERN MUSLIMS, since their Koran demands that they kill all “non-believers” of their barbaric ideology. No, I will not call Islam a religion because it is not, it is an ideology that demands everyone capitulate to their ways or die.
    As to that abomination they want to build on the graves of the men, women and children they butchered, which they call The Cordova Project, a site of their victory against the United States, if Heaven forbid it ever comes to fruition, it is struck by lightning and burns to the ground. Whether anyone is in it or not, well that’s the for Lord to say.

  • jopa

    The author of this article said he is sick and tired of being frightened of Islamic sentiments.What a chicken sh–.You try and put the boogieman factor and scare your readers and now you even scared yourself.You may as well just hunker in your bunker pull the pin and kiss your a– goodbye.I woke up this morning looked outside the sun was shining and thought ,what a beautiful day.

    • http://MSM.com LeRoy

      jopa- You might wake up and the sun is shining but tomarrow you will be shipped back with all the rest of your muslim friends! Then see how bright the sun is. I surved in our milatary to protect this country but I am sorry you are still here because you eather are to dumb or are muslim yourself to see what is right on your noise.

  • Gaffer

    Penny and others:
    If you could, please start all sentences with a capital letter. Leave two spaces after each end of sentence period. If you want to influence, you must be clear. If you want to educate, you must appear to be educated. Hope this is taken in a positive way.

    • Karolyn

      No, they don’t want to educate or influence. They just want to rant and rave.

  • http://Yahoo.com Godson Paul Nzeh

    If you allow them to overgrow you in number you will be in problem like Egypt and other nations of North and central Africa, Midle-East and some southern Europe where it is a crime for none moslem to rule. It will be difficult for you to build something like a church as it is in Saudi Arabia and Kano in Nigeria etc. They are only peaceful Religion where they are in minority just to buy time.

  • Martin Ray

    Isn’t it strange that none of the imams who operate the 100 or so mosques in New York City have banded together and condemned the planned Mosque a near the WTC site. Where are they?
    And, as a second thought, Mayor (Popinjay*) Bloomberg has also been pretty quiet lately. Where is he?

    * “a strutting, supercilious person” per Merriam-Webster’s Dictionary.

  • Robert Lease

    Right on brother. To bad the US government is now headed by a devout Muslium and Socilest. No hope there because change ment exactly that change the econemy and life style of us.

  • Beans

    The invasion is on, they are taking over Europe and America USA is the last great western bastion to conquer. They are winning and the Europeans are sitting on their fingers with out a clue??? It is hard to believe England uld be so gullible,but they are in the middeof it. America must act quickly, Obama will sell us out. We need to enforce deportation of illegal immigrants, and there are lots of Muslim Illegals. This country and it’s freedoms are in deep jeapody, and we need to support new government in Washington

  • Mick

    To hell with islam is right and we also have to stop catering to all the overly sensitive idiots of this world, they get offended at a drop of a hat to serve their purpose and make life miserable for the rest of humanity…

    • Ron

      Mick and beans – I’m with ya.

  • John

    Islam is NOT a peaceful religion as some like to say and have you believe.

    Respect, kindness & charity in the Koran are reserved for Muslims. It calls for the elimination of other religions.

    actforamerica.org
    jihadwatch.org
    americancongressfortruth.org

    It is time to say, “To Hell with Islam!”

    • Doc Sarvis

      A remarkable resemblance to Christianity. How about that?

      • John

        Your are a dumb as.. Doc,

        Christianity is tolerant of other religions.
        And Christianity does NOT call for the elimination of other religions.

        • Ron

          Doc. The doctor of know it allness and I suspect a muslim.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Ron, I didn’t know you are so into me. I hate to burst your bubble but I am not a muslim, nor do I claim to know everything. I’m just a proud American.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Assuming there are Christians on this site, VERY few of them are being tollerant of Islam.

          • JeffH

            Doc, what people are non-tolerent about are the Islamic Muslims that wish to kill Americans and non-believers. How do you sort the “good” Muslims from the “bad” Muslims? Almost impossible to do! Why? Because the Quran is quite clear that lying to non-believers is permitted. It is called “Al-taqiyya” which obviously means any Muslim is a possible threat to non-believers. Is is so much easier to lie than to catch the liar.

          • Jana

            Doc,
            It is very much like a person that has been out walking and has come across a huge snake pit full of deadly poisonous snakes. There is no way around this snake pit, either go through it or go back the way you came and take another route. As this person is quickly getting out of there, he sees a group of people walking down toward that pit and he tries to warn them. The frustration he feels when these people do not believe him. Oh a few turned back, but some refused saying “I don’t beleive you”. Others just said “Oh, we must be tolerant of the snakes”.
            Hmmm, sounds like you.

  • Gul

    Speaking about Shari’ah law: Adulterers are stoned to death. What do famous aduleters like Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Elliott Spitzer and Jesse Jackson have to say about bringing Shari’ah law to the USA.

    Today’s Chicago Tribune has an article on page 6, where a businessman twice flew a female friend of Jesse Jackson Jr to Chicago for meetings with Jackson Jr. Supposedly this female friend is a hostess in a restaurant in the DC area; a restaurant where Jesse Jackson Jr has spent a lot of money. You draw your own conclusions but to me it comes off as “Like Father Like Son”.

  • Right Wing

    It seems to me that Muslim extremists are the enemy we are fighting and if extremists are identified as those wanting to kill anyone who opposes them, then why are we asking for restraint of American freedoms as in the case of the Koran burning? Where does this stop? Will we eventually see a ban on heckling at sports events?

    If Muslims really want to end the violence and oppression brought on by there own, then they will need to rise and fight against the internal cancer that is the violence and militant shariah law in the faith of Islam. The problem with any Muslim questioning the direction of Islam is that they are terrified of the death penalty for standing against the “religion” they were born into.

    If peaceful Muslims agree that their “peaceful” religion is hijacked by the lunatics that enjoy cutting hands and feet, beheading, stoning women to death, issuing death warrants against Apostates, enslaving non-believers, subjecting women to a sub-class stature, then show an ounce of moxie and stand against your oppressors. You won’t stand alone since America embraces cultural and religious diversity. You can be Muslim in America as long as you equally celebrate the freedoms afforded to all Americans of any race or religion.

    If any man believes in peace in his heart but refuses to stand against what he knows is wrong, then he is a coward and accepts the path he is led to. That means if you commit acts against your better judgment out of fear of reprisal then you are as corrupt as that which you follow. These types of people are the casualties of war because they become enemies by their inaction. Therefore, Muslims who support killing people because of their faith or what country they live in are the enemy. Those that rise up in public support of killing but denounce in private are also enemies. Our current military plan in Iraq and Afghanistan is to teach Muslims to police themselves. This approach does not seem to be particularly effective so I suggest a new battle plan that will test the mettle of peaceful Muslims. I call it operation RAID BOMB. Schedule regular Koran burnings everywhere and kill any Muslim that shows up to fight. It looks to be the only way to flush out these cockroaches.

    • Ron

      Best post so far. I like the RAID BOMB idea.

  • DonDeHoff

    So much has been said on this Muslim/Islamic issue (and they are “one and the same”). But, “The Muslims are comming, The Muslims are comming” is a misnomer–they are already here, and intentionally scattered throughout the country. They all have been taught from age 5 about Jihad, infidels, and their “all loving, forgiving and “all encompasing” god, along with the edict that they are going to take over this country and the entire world. It will not be enough to say, “leave, or else”, there are just too many of them. We have to start at the very beginning and re-educate the Muslim masses, that their so-called religion is not a religion at all and that it is only a compilation of 7th Century barbaric cultrual political and social issues wrapped in a thinly veiled cloak of religion. How does one go about, telling aMuslim adult that the earth is not flat and the Sun does not rotate around the earth, if they have been taught that from day-one. To make matters worse, they are “fanny deep” in Ph.Ds, with degrees in Muslim religion with a “major” in how to put forth their philosopy to take over the world. To paraphrase an old (now ex) army colonel—”One can not swing a dead pig around here, without hitting a Muslim Ph.D.” First, we have to acknowledge that the Muslim use of suicide bombers, road-side bombs,killing if innocent civilians, ete., are their standard barbaric warfare tools, and much cheaper than a Sherman tank or F-22. For the most part, the term “moderate Muslim” is an “oxymoran”. That is understandable, as few of “us” would say we are moderates if the “powers that be” could issue a order to have you killed, without a jury. “Death for all who abandon their fath”, is hardly a “godly” conceipt in any other modern religion of the world. Neither is it “godly” to manage and control all aspects of ones life, down to and including brushing your teeth and performing bathroom duties. Such god(s) involved in such “minutia” surely must have much and bigger and critical things of which to take care. Also, the establishing of edicts for a local people then imposing them worldwide, such as eating habits, dress, having nothing to do with dogs (Can you visualise Alaska or sheep herders, without dogs?), etc.,etc., ad nauseam. We also have to explore with the Muslims, how their religion was started by a middle-aged war-mongering individual who reportedly could neither read nor write, and who by his own admission was guilty of many issues now considered to be felonies. Being illiterate, I wonder just how many of his thoughts were accurately documented by his scribe(s), human frailties being what they are. I could continue for about 10 more chapters but let me stop with this. The Muslims say that the Koran and its many supporting other directives, dictate they are to be followed to the letter with no deviations. Then, we find many differing edicts througout the volumes, with a later notation that the “latest” edict is the correct one–talk about, “Ad Infinitum”! If so, why is the original or outdated provisions then not removed from the works? With the great majority of the world Mulsim population being at least somewhat illiterate, they have to rely upon what the more fanatic leaders say and do. I sense that before this is all over, there is going to be “blood in the streets”. Want to become an expert on this subject? Read Andrew McCarthy’s book, “The Grand Jihad”. There is enough documentation in that book alone, to impeach our President.

  • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

    To all you who are ranting against Zion, let me tell you the Lord dwells in Zion. That land is Holy Land and anyone found there that does not belong there we will slaughter.
    The Arabs have plenty of land, let them move the Palestinian swine on their land. Jordan had a lot of them, got tired of them and began slaughtering them. The muslims don’t care about the Palestinians, they just want the Jews gone. Jerusalem is the city of The Great King, all you anti-zionist will have your city, it’s name is Babylon and there you will serve your god the great whore, Satan, better known as Allah. And take my word for it, you will be there, when God rolls that city off a cliff and it is swallowed up by the earth. We certainly won’t let you enter the promised land, you will be turned back over to the enemy or we will kill you.
    You Christians out there, remember, salvation is from the Jews, it will be a physical rescue, not that touchy, feely, come up to the altar and say you believe in Jesus, and you are saved. Fall for that garbage if you want to, but God requires service and obedience to His Law and the sacrifice of your life to Him. Anything less, and guess what, you die and like the billions of other people who never had God’s Holy Spirit, you turn back to dust. You had one chance at life, and you blew it.
    So all you Jew haters, remember that Jesus, the Christ, the Mighty Commander of The Armies of the Living God, was and is a Jew. Hope you are able to hang around and see us in action right before we burn you alive.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      PLEASE levite prophet,this site is not a hate site,please take flashman and all the muslim nut cases with you,personally i dont hate anyone,just sick off all the crazies in this republic,and fight it out in the radical web sites.and as far as satan take him with you too.

  • 45caliber

    Everyone please note the comment in the article.

    “Martyrdom is therefore the ONLY way for a Muslim to obtain forgiveness of sins” Surat Al Tawbah 9:111.

    This is unfortunately true. There is NO other way a Muslim can expect to get forgiveness for all sins and get to the Garden. And any devote Muslim knows this. As a result they are willing to die and WANT to die in an attack on some enemy … even if they make up the enemy.

    So don’t believe all the tripe about this being a “religion of peace”!!

  • JeffH

    If we can’t be sure of the intent or the possible harmful agenda to america or simply each other…why do we give a possible enemy the benefit of the doubt? The simple fact that the insensitivity of such a mosque’s location is not a deterrent to move, ought to tell you something…why don’t you fight for building a Church of Christ in a Muslim country?

    Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.

  • ElviratheHoot

    Thank you for a well written piece. Just want to add something and that is the fact that the Christians are not the only ones with a target on their backs – I would say that Israel has a larger target, and then the rest of the non-islam world. I too am sick and tired of that islam-pandering fool that is supposed to be running this country – Heaven help us!

  • lovelystill

    September 7, 2010
    Building on Faith
    by F.A.Rauf

    “From the political conflicts between Israelis and Palestinians to the
    building of a community center in Lower Manhattan, Muslims and members
    of all faiths must work together if we are ever going to succeed in
    fostering UNDERSTANDING and PEACE.

    At Cordoba House, we envision shared space for community activities,
    like a swimming pool, classrooms and a play space for children. There
    will be separate prayer spaces for Muslims, Christians, Jews and men
    and women of other faiths.”

    1977
    F.A.Rauf

    “In a TRUE PEACE, Israel will, in our lifetime, become one more Arab
    country, with a Jewish minority.”

    (There are 75,4% Jews in Israel.
    ,

    • Gaffer

      Awesom post!

      • Gaffer

        There is something wrong with this program: my comment was attributed to the wrong post. Please ignore.

  • john

    While everyone vents here online..our own govt. is starting a persecution of Christians in our own land while appeasing the Muslims.They are currently re-writing laws to silence Christians,and who do you think are the ones behind it?The Gay activists.There are many enemies at hand now in this country..Islam,gays who want access to your children to pervert them and indoctrinate them to accept what is against the laws of nature,liberals,leftists and atheists.Remember when the majority ruled and all others could live quietly how they wished as long as they kept to themselves?Now it’s the opposite..money buys politicians who sell their souls and their country out to stuff their pockets.the minority wins out and expects everyone to pander to their sick perverted views.Voter revolution!Get everyone whose in…out.If we continue on this course and do nothing we will reap the consequences.The only way for evil to grow and become strong is for good people to do nothing.The lines in the battle of good vs evil are clearly drawn now..the spiritual battle is no longer invisible..it is in the open and now is the time to stand up against all that is wrong..not here online..but in the public eye..in the streets.The time of Gods mercy is drawing to a close and if we don’t fix whats happening ..He will and it won’t be pleasent for anyone..good or bad.

  • chuck b

    dondehoff:

    your idea of educating the muslims is fine and good, however, remember the john birch society tried to educate the people on the perils of communism, did it work? no. at this very mpment minnesota is in the throes of inserting sharia law into that state (reported by john gibson on fox news), they voted in al franken so a little thing like sharia law shouldn’t be a problem. sometimes i think california is the whackiest state in the union, now i believe minn. has passed us up.
    this religion caters to the ignorant, just check out the prisons, the “nation of islam” is a rising cult among the blacks in the u.s. and i wouldn’t be surprised that you could connect barry to this organization, he definitely is a muslim in my book. we can remove them from this country or enough to control those that remain. freedom of religion? of course this will be the liberal cry, i doubt if the founding fathers took into consideration the perils of islam when they wrote this in the constitution and can you consider islam a religion? we either stop it now or we lose our country and it stopping it we may shed some blood. our forefathers shed blood to create this country so i think it would be proper to do so in protecting it. of course we could say the same thing about the progressives (communist) they are a danger to our freedom also.

  • john

    The best way to fight the influx of Islam in this country is two ways…the first is to to pray and fast..the other is to have children and to put to death selfish lifestyles and for men and women to grow up and start acting like men and women again instead aping the crap that television makes families out to be.How sickening it is to see how many people are covered in tatoos,when I was a child in the late 60′s early 70′s there were many places for families to bring kids for entertainment now theres nothing,whatever there is is mainly for adults.We need to be responsible and accountable for our action.Build up the American family again reject Hollywood,porno,and tv.Currently we are no better than goldfish in a bowl swimming in their own shit.Our society is polluted and needs to be cleaned up..if we don’t do it..God will allow our enemies to do it for us.Don’t say you can’t afford many children..if you trust in God..He will provide..it’s what He does best if you allow Him in.

    • 45caliber

      When the government pays single women on Welfare to have more children by taking away a good portion of my paycheck, I generally don’t have enough to raise that many kids too. I raised three – and there were many times I couldn’t pay all the bills since I needed the money for food. I’m still paying off some of those bills and my youngest child is now almost 31. The real problem is that our government is taking our paychecks (as taxes) and giving it to those who don’t pay taxes so they can have more children instead of us. I would have liked to have had more – but if I had, I would have had to have been on welfare myself.

  • Eliza

    You people are all idiots!

    • CJ

      Glad you’re here to take over as the head one!

      • Ron

        My thoughts exactly. The name callers can’t debate or put forth ideas because they have none

        • 45caliber

          Exactly. And that includes name-callers on both sides.

  • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

    Hello America,As a nation it all starts with us…Here in America we can no leaders with a backbone.Look at what is going on in America right now in new york city. I do not mean the ground zero (hate zone) mosque,but I mean the muslims that take over every friday at 42nd st and madison ave and several other intersections,at 2pm until 4pm without a permit,hundreds of muslims go into the busy intersections at rush hour and place there prayer rugs in the street and kneel down and face mecca and pray. WOW,what would obama do if a few hundred jews or christians did this??? Obama would have the local law enforcement arrest them and arrest them quickly…. We do have freedom of religion here in America,but we have that freedom of religion equal with all religions.Why then does this white house give special rights to muslims????Equal rights yes,special rights no way…..America,its time to make a stand…..The muslims hold the koran and its teachings and there oath to allah higher than any oath they might take and therefore if you take an oath to up hold anything and it goes against the koran,then that oth is voided.This includes the oath any president or anyone else takes…. America,do you understand???? Look up some chapters and verses in the koran yourself–chapter 9 verse 30—kill the jews and christians—-chapter 5 verse 54— kill the non-believers. I could go on but you get the point…America,lets become oil independent and stop buying(funding) the radical middle east muslim jihad period. We have more oil here than the whole middle and our leaders will not let us drill. Why? Can you say control??? Can you say SOLDOUT???Put the word bakken in your internet and see how much oil we have in just this one easy to get to reserve>>>>> We have oil all over like in colorado and anwar to name a few…..Instead,we have obama and reid and pelosi killing 50,000 northern california farm workers jobs because pelosi said some 2 inch delta smelt might go extinct…. Baloney…. We raise trout and catfish and salmon ect by the millions and we could easily raise millions of little delta smelt on just one acre of delta water….If the delta smelt might go extinct and pelosi had to turn the water off to all those American farms and farm workers,then how come she still gets all the water she wants for her multi million dollar northern california vineyards and those hard working northern california farmers get shut down?????Can you say conspiracy??? Can you say SOLDOUT???? Can you say anti-American????? If obama and reid and pelosi want to spend 787 billion dollars through a rob America now stimulus to create jobs then why will they not give back those 50,000 jobs to those northern california farm workers,it would not cost the tax payers a dime,in fact, it would take 50,000 workers off of the I need food lines and unemployment lines and would put them back on the I am paying taxes because I have a job line… America, that is a 100,000 job turn around. We can give 50,000 workers back there jobs and take 50,000 workers off of unemployment benefits and pulling from the already over taxed system….Why will we not let those hard working farmers go back to work?? Please do not side with the environmentalist that are backed by opec and the big money from the middle who also do not want us to drill for oil,Lets put the pressure on our elected officals to give those hard working Americans there jobs back or atleast lets stop pelosi from getting all the water she wants and show her first hand what she has done….. America,UNITED WE STAND!!!!!!!!

  • Hypocrisy

    I love it. Here’s the rule/statement at the top of the comment section:

    “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants.”

    If you attack Jews, Christians, blacks, latinos, or asians, your comments will be deleted. This section is reserved for the expression of hatred towards Muslims only. All other hate speech will not be tolerated.

    • Ron

      You must have missed a lot of the posts.

      • Right Wing

        No Ron, he/she is just living up to their pseudonym.

  • Bloodhound

    Islam needs to be banned from the shores of America. Islam is not a religion but a political belief that wants total submission. Closest thing the Moon Idiot, Allah, comes to is Satan, from the Bible. It is a true sickness! Islam is not compatable with Western life or a Civilized Society! They are fine left in their own lands to murder and maim their own population. That is truly sick about Islam! If they have no Infidels to murder, they find excuses to murder their fellow muslims. It is all about Death and Darkness and Control! Personally, I think mankind came from God and muslims are abortions from Pigs!

  • Rob

    Is It Time To Say, “To Hell with Islam?”

    Islam is Hell

  • Spence

    Why not expand your statement: “To Hell with Religion.”

    • 45caliber

      I happen to know God exists. So that keeps me from saying that about religion.

    • Right Wing

      Spence maybe you should expand the bravery of your own contribution and state that you say, “to hell with religion”. It does not show a very meaningful or thoughtful contribution when you try to put words in someones mouth. You end up with your foot in your own.

  • Robert

    Remember that this country was founded by christians and jews and quakers and other religions based on the bible. I have no respect for a religion founded by a pediphile,mohamad. he said to kill anyone who does not convert. to me that is enough for me not to even care about islam the supposed religion of peace. they will go to hell as all liars and devil worshipers will.

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      You are correct…

  • Michael from the sidelines

    What an evil web we weave. History repeating itself. Do we never learn what the real evil in the world is?

    The Jews thought Christians were a cult, now the Christians say Islam is a cult. Control, Greed, “better than thou”, Classing? All three religions believe in the ten commandments of Moses. Quit your damn bitching about who’s religion is right. Get back to the commandments. we live in a nation founded on freedom of religion. Till any sec takes power to try and change my Constitution in a way that removes this right, I will sit and watch as the Major leaders of churches, who have side stepped paying taxes for over 200 years, whine and bicker. This nation was not founded on Christianity. Your first 5-7 Presidents never were Christians. Read History people. Read why this nation is not founded on or will ever be controlled by one religion. When the day comes that obvious control is being taken by a religion over my Constitution, I will rise to be heard. I “pray” all Americans will wake up in those days, not far in the future. If not, Allah be praised. Peace be apon him and you.

    • chuck b

      michael sidelines

      you must be quoting from a history book printed in a muslim country. this nation was created by christians and george washington was a very devout christian. thomas jefferson was a christian even tho he at one time did not believe the diety of christ, he served on the vestry of the anglican church and professed his religion throughout his lfe.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        You obviously do not know of, nor looked up your founding fathers.. Washington was a Diest. He believed in One God, but no established religion. I will allow you to open a book up on the others. It might enlighten your thought process some. Don’t be led, learn for yourself. Something you hould have dne as a child and continue through your adulthood.

        • Vicki

          Allow me to open the book for you Michael so that you may see. Perhaps you may also become enlightened.

          http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

          Note George Washington is in there but not Deist
          Ben Franklin is listed as converting to Deist.
          Go ahead and explore the other 202 founding fathers.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        quote from Jefferson:

        And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.
        -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      As far as allah and mohammed goes they can eat pork bellies and ham sandwhiches as far as I am concerned. Anyone who says isalm is a religion of peace is a blooming idot and ingorant of the truth. The koran clearly states to kill the jews and christians and any non believer so learn how to make a prayer rug and face mecca five times a day or learn how to fight. muslims and there hate all non believers way of living are here in our country and they will jihad sooner than we think.They do not co-exist with any other religion or non islam believers,they will convert you or kill you.They are an evil religion and death and blood is what they are about. America,wake up and choose.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        Wow, thought you were talking about the Holy wars there for second.. back when Christianity marched eastward.. cannibalism even arose back then. Wonder if the Chisitans will do it again, along with the burning of witches. Myself, I will stick to good BBQ .. I am not Islamic, I am not christian, I am Not Jewish. So I do not have your social fears brought on by Church leaders and Goverment. I am an American who believes in the founding fathers. They knew all established religions are wrong and so do I.
        I believe in the one god.

        Now back to those founding fathers:
        I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent.
        -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Hopkinson, March 13, 1789

        • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

          Michael,So your a muslim.Glad to see you admit do not like it when Americans say something hurtful but truthful about islam.. Michael,you should have gone to school in America and you might have been taught the truth about islam.Christians do not kill anyone. Real christians do as the Bible says to do,pray one for another,pray even for your enemies,only god has the right to give or take life.Michael,your koran is full of hate and death,look at chapter 9 verse 30–kill the jews and christians and all non believers. How about chapter 4 ver-101 or chap 4 ver 74&75 or chap 47 ver 4 ect. Michael,your koran teaches kill,kill,kill and kill the infidels and anyone who does not convert to islam. Michael, I am not converting to islam,hope you know what that means.

  • Robert

    by the way islam is not a religion, it is a conquer the world for the name of mahamad or be killed by his followers who are a mass of idiots who have no mind to think of the reality of what they say they believe. only a fruitcake would do that.

  • Melissa

    This is a Christian nation and my God is bigger than theirs. if my people who are called by my name will turn from their wicked way, then will I hear from heaven and will heal their land.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Melissa,
      So you are acknowledging they have a God. Interesting.

      • 45caliber

        They do. The God of Christianity doesn’t say that there are no other gods. He says that we are not to put any other god before Him.

        • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

          Nice-45-nice…. islam is a religion of hate and that is a fact. They kill one another—shite or sunni. Look, we have a muslim president who lied about his religion and in islam thats okay. The koran lets you lie and take other oathes as long as it benefits islam. muslims kill each other,oh what a peaceful religion isslime is.obama calls the Bible the Bible and calls the koran the holy koran.The koran is like used toilet paper,open it up and see… Sorry toilet paper,I did not mean to put you down…..

  • http://schema-root.org John

    My copy of the Qur’an [a translation by M.H.Shakir, 1990] does not provide anything at all like the quotations presented within the article and quoted by Tricia Erickson, above.

    Quoting from the translation I have:

    Surah 9:111 “Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property of this, that they shall have garden; they fight in Allah’s way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.”

    Surah 2:216 “Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.”

    Surah 9:5 “So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”

    Surah 5:33 “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on oposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement.”

    —–

    I do not understand how people who love war and love to hate can have any love for their own family and friends.

    • 45caliber

      “I do not understand how people who love war and love to hate can have any love for their own family and friends.”

      And that is why the Muslims have so much internal problems. That is why it is “right” for a Muslim father to murder his daughter when she doesn’t marry who he says. That is why Muslims can beat their wives to death.

      • Angel Wannabe

        I’ll tell ya what 45, damn good thing I’m not a muslim woman, They would’ve killed me for isolence years ago!!__ My old man knew from the start, never to raise a hand to me, if he did, do not go to sleep, because he wouldn’t wake up!__I was Abused by a family member 4 years!__it does one or two things to you, it either makes your extremly timid or agressive__lets just say it did not make me timid!

        • Norm

          Angel Wannabe
          You have my condolences – honestly.

        • Right Wing

          And so it should be Angel. So why do you not hear from Muslim women who are so grossly mistreated? Are they just so broken and fearful that they don’t speak up, speak out? They are the biggest victims of this “religion”. Covered head to toe, beaten, treated as sub-human, shared as property.

          • Jana

            Right Wing,
            They wouldn’t dare speak out. They also know what they would get, and they have NO legal standing. Remember this is a total system that was made by man, for man, and against women.

  • http://yahoo John

    If Islam is so peacful, explain to me why mohammed after being kicked out of Gerusalem, went back to Mecca nd Medina and slaughtered every one who would not follow Him with the sword!!!!!!!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      And why God killed everyone except Noah and his family (and two of each type of animal)?

      • Margaret

        The Judeo-Christian God pleaded with mankind for 120 years to take advantage of the safety of the ark during the deluge most likely caused by their own disregard for the environment. No one took Him up on it. He is a stickler for free will and honored their collective decisions to remain outside the ark.

        • 45caliber

          Margaret:
          You are correct. But most atheists believe that God should obey them instead.

          • Michael from the sidelines

            And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.
            -Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

  • Ahmedenajad of Somalia

    hahah that is funny, cus i am Musim. first of all this country is not for white christian man. and we are all imagnts. OK. u r citizen so i am? Muslim, u r all wrong about that. go and read the Quran, then u will know the reality. something else, why are people becoming Muslims while we poor, and christianity have a lot of rich people/smart and good looking. the truth is everyone figures out the trueth and they act. go to Youtube and type in MIricles Of Allah. then talk to me

    • chuck b

      ahmedenajad of somalia

      did you take time from your piracy to comment on the enternet. did you know that a lot of american and chinese shoe companies are using pig skin to make shoes. you may have lost any chance of getting to the virgins. better check it out, it may be to late.

    • Right Wing

      Typical Muslim response…read the Koran. There was some good in there but for the most part all the talk about cutting off hands and feet, beating you wife and beheading the infidel was more like reading a manual on how to live life as a violent, deprived human. I just flushed the last page.

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Better double flush…. wouldn’t want it to back up on you….. isslime is a death religion and since I will not convert to isslime I guess those porkchop bacon eating muslims can just bring it.

  • Margaret

    I applaud this article. Finally someone willing to say what everyone else is thinking. However, I say we take it one step further. Any Muslim “martyr” whose bodily remains or partial remains can be gathered together, should be buried in a pigskin bag. Muslims believe this disqualifies them for any reward. When other Muslims see this happening they will think twice about giving their life for NO reward at all. After all, this is why they do this to us, in hopes of securing their own future in paradise with 72 virgins of their own. Probably, no such burials would even need to take place….just the threat or claim of such would probably act as a perfect deterent. No one gets hurt on either side. Why we are not doing this is totally beyond my comprehension.

    • 45caliber

      Horrors! We might OFFEND someone!!

  • da norseman

    The problem lies with the left who instill the fear of Islam into the lives of Americans. It is the left who say we should be nice to Muslim extremists and those who support Jihad and Shariah so they will not get angry. Clearly, the left are clueless and regard extremism, Jihad and Shariah as legitimate. The more the left open their mouths, including human rights groups, the more the world becomes a dangerous place as a group of extremists continue in an attempt to conquer the world in the name of Islam and that all must convert or be put to death as an infidel.

    Why should we continue to live under fear? Why are these lame politicians not standing up to fight the spread of Islam? No! they must appease the aggressor and make peace as if to say, “You are welcome to come in here and your rights to practice Islam, Shariah, extremism and Jihad are protected under the U.S. Constitution.”

    These fanatical zealots of Islam, Shariah and Jihad are not angry with non-believers since only a sane person gets angry. They are insane and will do all they can to wipe out every non-believer.

    • 45caliber

      The reason they alibi the jihadists is because they feel that the ONLY reason they attack is because we have somehow offended them. It is all our fault. Therefore all we need to do is be nice to them, appologize for whatever it was, and give them lots of money and they will never attack us again. They have the same solution for every problem except conservativism. Those they want to imprison and kill.

      Terrorism comes from the fact that these people want to kill innocent people to terrorize the rest into obeying whatever order they want to give. It isn’t accidental that “terrorism” and “terrorize” start the same. But the liberals can’t imagine anyone being evil enough to want to do that. All people are good (except conservatives of course). There must be a reason and it must be because we have done something (even if we don’t know what it is and they won’t tell us) to offend them.

      • Vicki

        But they do tell us what offends them. They have told us for over 1000 years. We are infidel. We exist. That offends them.

        • da norseman

          Not only that, but within the Muslim world itself! For thirteen centuries there has been a bloodbath between Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims who cannot stand one another. They cast blame on each other for the poisoning death of the Prophet Mohammad which has carried on from generation to generation, which is why there is so much instability in that part of the world.

          In Iran, which Shia Muslims make up the majority, plans are to bring back the lands that were once part of the Persian Empire, which is policy of that corrupt Tehran government. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Yemen and Iraq have a large Sunni Muslim population. Most terror groups are Shia Muslims such as Hezbollah supported through funds made by the Tehran government.

          In Saudi Arabia, it is against the law for any Sunni to wed a Shia and vice versa.

          In Iraq, Saddam Hussein was a huge Sunni supporter, which was the basis of his war against Iran that stalled Iran’s efforts to reclaim land lost over the years. The Baghdad government received support from Saudi Arabia to bomb Iran.

          Whether how much longer this bloodbath continues and spreads elsewhere, the world will continue to be a dangerous place.

  • Maxx

    It has been said that all evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing. It is an illusion that things are so bad or the world is so big that no one person really matters or can make a difference. Our enemies are counting on our full cooperation with this ideology.
    Perhaps the Tea Party could use some good Minutemen. It does not seem likely that the current skyrocket in gun sales is due to a sudden fear of home invasion, or does it? Perhaps it is a mere corporate unconscious reaction to a homeland invasion?
    It seems that some pro-action would be prudent such as adding a Constitutional Amendment ensuring that no subordinate set/s of laws (Shariah) shall in no case, and at no time, in any way supersede the laws of this land. Muslims have turned using our own values, ideals and freedoms against us into an art form.
    Gay activists ought to read the Koran and Shariah as well. Islam takes a much more serious offense to homosexuality than your basic confused American culture. Take the recent asylum request from a gay Saudi Arabian running for his life. Please do.
    One only need to look into the mirror of problems Europe is experiencing with Islam. I say mirror because what happens in the socio-politcal climate in Europe more often filters to us.
    Islam seems to have more of a say in our freedom of speech than most Americans do. Television producers and newspaper cartoonists are openly afraid of offending Islam our of fear. But, Islam is a peaceful religion right?
    What difference does it make anyway? The asinine approach of attempting to not offend Islam merely highlights absolute ignorance to the fact that we’ve already offended them, and for a long time.
    But, if nothing gets done, it will not be the sole fault of our Congress, Senate or even our President. It will be all our faults for failing to act. Silence is acceptance.
    Not sure what you can do? Step 1. Get off your blessed assurance. Step 2. Find out – what CAN you do. Warning: you may have to step out of you comfort zone. I don’t know about any of you, but my comfort zone is beginning to feel claustrophobic these days.
    Well, our President did promise us change, did he not?

  • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

    Doc Sarvis, You need to read a little closer, God saved 7 pairs of the clean animals so we would have clean food. I bet you eat plenty of pork, after all you are what you eat.
    God destroyed all humans but Noah and family because the spirit rulers of this world had corrupted all humans but Noah. Didn’t Christ say it would be as the days of Noah when He returned.
    By the way, no humans are special to God except the House of Israel, the 12 tribes He saved out of Egypt. He sent by a Levite, Moses, to rescue them, and a modern day Levite will rescue Israel again, along with his many Levite Brothers, the Sons of Jerusalem.
    Read Isaiah 63, to get a description of a massive slaughter that will occur in Mecca and Medina, at the hand of only one being, The Mighty Christ. Read Revelation where this Mighty Being returns on a white horse with His garments dipped in blood. He was naked on the cross, so it is not His blood, but the blood of His muslim enemies soaking His garments. You need to find out who and what the real Christ is.

  • Gil

    You might want to read the following from cnsnews:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75520

  • Carol

    I can’t believe what I just read are we in fear of these people in our own country because we have a “president” who believes in this religion and he tells people what they can and can’t do he is sounding more and more like Castro and if allow him to get away with it all of us are going to hurt and hurt badly we are going to lose all of our rights to this horrible man.

    • Karolyn

      Please tell me who is frightened? I see very few people living in fear of Muslims.

  • Ahmedenajad of Somalia

    chuck b… u r funny. i sure i will have killed for funn if i was a pirate

    • Right Wing

      Aquavelvaman you are the type of scum bag we are talking about here. Welcome to the cross hairs sheet head.

      • 45caliber

        Right Wing:

        Don’t run him off. I would like to see what he thinks of what is said here.

        • Right Wing

          I have tried to engage Muslims in meaningful conversations for years and not one-single-time have I gotten a meaningful dialogue. They always say, “read the koran”, or they cite the Koran, or throw nonsense about. Quite frustrating I would say as I am truly interested in some meaningful dialogue. I have been to many Muslim chat rooms with no success. They always try to convert me to Islam and steer me to passages. I just want to know if there is one true Muslim who believes that some portions of the Koran are open to interpretation? Must all Muslims follow the tenet of killing or cutting infidels, or is there a more peaceful interpretation? Still no takers? This monkey commenting above is the typical smirking inbred half-wit that lurks in cracks waiting for a real chance to get his virgin booty after killing an infidel.

    • chuck b

      you are full of it! the typing gives it away.

  • Viktor Leben

    God,

    They want to shed innocent blood. I deliver them into your hands for judgement …

  • David A. White

    It was only a few years ago that main stream christians thought the Mormons were the worst thing in religion, now the Mormons are main stream and many christians are converting to Mormonism. I think that if the Catholic church and the main Protestant churchs in the United States do not wake up and stand for Christian beliefs, then we will see more and more average people converting to the Muslim religion. They are a religion who states their beliefs and lives them. Many, if not most Christian churchs are all about money and influence that the buys.

    • 45caliber

      And Islam isn’t about money? You obviously haven’t really studied Islam. All worshippers are to give to their temples. In fact, if you don’t give as directed, you can be corrected for it.

      Further, if you do study Islam, you will be glad they DON’T follow what it says. The verses quoted in the article really ARE there for worshippers to follow. Along with many more that are similar.

    • Right Wing

      It makes no difference what the religion is David. Believe what you want…all religions are welcome in America. We are talking about freedom here. Any religion that includes a distinct ideology of reforming all government into its format is a threat to our Constitutional Republic. Welcome Muslims…if you come to integrate into America. Piss off if you come to assimilate America into your ideology. I don’t see Mormons issuing death threats to non-believers, Apostates, comedians, etc. Muslims that come to America to intimidate and inject subversive doctrines into our free country are my enemy and are not welcome in my home. I welcome open discussion on Islam as a peaceful religion but to date my question concerning treatment of infidels usually puts a damper on things. There is too much evidence that Islam is not a religion of peace but is aimed at submission…as its translation suggests. I submit to no man.

  • David A. White

    It was only a few years ago that main stream christians thought the Mormons were the worst thing in religion, now the Mormons are main stream and many christians are converting to Mormonism. I think that if the Catholic church and the main Protestant churchs in the United States do not wake up and stand for Christian beliefs, then we will see more and more average people converting to the Muslim religion. They are a religion who states their beliefs and lives them. Many, if not most Christian churchs are all about money and influence that it buys.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
      -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802

      • N2Valus61

        Well…since Muslims do not FOLLOW OUR way of doing things, I would suffice to say that they do not care about the separation of church and state now do they? Considering the depth of their Islamic beliefs, i.e; political/religion…or did you miss that part?

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    its sad to see a nation divided by foreign influence and the nation torn apart,by the enlighten will educated masters of the universe,the (NEW WORLD ORDER) bunch, a tiny minority that control the news,our national bank,(THE FEDERAL RESERVE)a completely owned system owned by the european bankers,and in turn has corrupted the very people in government,via lobbist that have bought out the people that have been elected by the american people,and has perverted the very system that served this nation.and the result is that the nation is over run by the left wing anarchist,and they are pushing all this nation dividing issues,muslims they have no right to even think,let alone say,what the judeo-chistain people have to say how we wish this nation to be run,for they didnt build it we did,and the hard cold facts,look at the way these people treat all those who live in those muslim nations,a non believer,chop off their heads,wow what a deal,a haircut and a shave in one fell swoop,no thanks be we dont need the wolfs in sheeps clothings,selling the points of how good they are,look at the bombings worldwide,britain,spain,russia,and africa,somalia,murder,rape and looting you name it,all in the name of islam,flashman,you are a left wing troll salesperson,that will starve to death,for the american people just arent buying their own death warrants,this year or ever,so go sell your left wing ideas,to the chinese government,but you know what will happen,you would be cut into body parts and fed to the pigs.NO SALE HERE.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
      -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

      In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
      -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        In the first part of what you posted is very interesting,can you tell everyone here WHY? that this president obama ,is pushing this pro islam stuff down our throats,we are free to think what we wish,its not racism,but folks like you are screaming it is.relax,this is america not IRAN,YOU WONT BE ARRESTED FOR NOT BEING A CHRISTIAN.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755#R64

        I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. Thomas Jefferson

        Thomas Jefferson

        SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; DIPLOMAT; GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA; SECRETARY OF STATE; THIRD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
        SAID THE FOLLOWING:

        The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.64
        The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.65
        I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others.66
        I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ

        • Norm

          Chuck

          Jefferson was a Christian Deist. he lived by Christian morals that he believed in but he viewed Jesus as a philosopher not a deity and scientific reasoning over the myths and miracles of mass religions.
          “I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”
          - Thomas Jefferson
          “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”
          Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814.
          “And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.”
          Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, April 11, 1823.
          “The whole history of these books (i.e. the Gospels) is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.”
          Source: Letter of Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, January 24, 1814.

  • Frankie

    This place sounds like a neo-Nazi/KKK/skinhead rally. All this talk about “our” America, and Anglo-Saxon common law, and Christian victimization. Don’t look back now but your right in Que with Adolf Hitler. It’s interesting how you guys say the Muslims are sabotaging, and plan to commit acts of terror when you declare to subvert the government and to “hunt down” Muslims… that’s called terrorism folks. That’s why, I suppose, education is necessary – to fill a void in man before his lack of knowledge and reason commits him to insanity.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest. The artificial structures they have built on the purest of all moral systems, for the purpose of deriving from it pence and power, revolts those who think for themselves, and who read in that system only what is really there.

      -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Mrs. Samuel H. Smith, August, 6, 1816

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

        Chuck says:
        September 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=8755#R64

        I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. Thomas Jefferson

        Thomas Jefferson

        SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE; DIPLOMAT; GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA; SECRETARY OF STATE; THIRD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
        SAID THE FOLLOWING:

        The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.64
        The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.65
        I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others.66
        I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ

    • 45caliber

      Sorry, but it is NOT terrorism. Terrorism is the act of trying to use terror against innocent people to force them to obey. Hunting people down to kill isn’t terrorism if you are doing it just to kill them.

      Most of the Muslims in the US are actually good people. They aren’t interested in committing terrorist acts or killing people. But some are not. The trouble is seperating them. I only hope that the real terrorists will not commit acts that will end up forcing us to act against all Muslims. That would be wrong.

      • Karolyn

        I’m glad to hear you say that 45, and I’m glad you’re not among the bloodthirsty.

      • Right Wing

        Well put 45. There may be Muslims that have no intent to “judge with the sword” and they are welcome. In fact I support them if they can contribute to America under an Islam that does not propagate hatred and segregation. I am ignorant of this such faith because all I have read and studied suggests otherwise.

      • tg7357

        OK< I read your post and here is my question: how are you going to know who the 'good' Muslims are the who the 'bad' Muslims are, up until they drop another building or plant a suitcase bomb or decide to shoot up a school? You ought to know by now the Feds have NO IDEA who is in AMerica, what they are here for, or who they are representing as they came through the swiss-cheese called a border. And before you answer, remember that 'bad' Muslims would kill you as soon as look at you, and the 'good' Muslims would probably not turn a hair because they don't want to join you bleeding on the ground. So, how do you tell?

        • Karolyn

          Well, how can you tell if your new next-door-neighbor WASP is rapist and murderer? You know even middle class white guys go rogue. We have to take the good with the bad. I sure ain’t gonna live in paranoia.

      • Angel Wannabe

        TRUE 45, we cannot blame a whole people, for the acts of a few, I get it, but we can’t afford to turn a deaf ear, to any of the Muslims either___Reagan said, TRUST, BUT VERIFY!__I say If we can’t verify, exercise extreme caution!!

        • JeffH

          Angel Wannabe, my beliefs also. Thanks.

    • Right Wing

      Relax Frankie. Besides likening all here to the Nazi movement consider the comparison and then provide some “information” that you suggest “We the People” lack. The German Workers Party (later the Nazi party) formed in response to a failed economy. The party become a totalitarian dictatorship under Hitler whose race purification agenda led to persecution of several races and ideologies that were not directly threatening the regime. In other words purify the world of non-believers and force others to submit to this socialistic ideology. You must be an absolute moron in failing to see the parallel to Islam. America is open to various ideologies and religions and if you are suggesting that the topic article and majority of posts here support otherwise, then you are the complete moron I referred to.

      You insult the Jews who suffered under the Nazi regime by making such statements because I am sure many Jews learned a great lesson. Maybe as a culture they would still not fight persecution with aggression but OUR constitution mandates the upkeep of a militia that will defend the rights of free Americans regardless of race, religion, or ideology. Many men and women have already fought and died to capture and preserve the freedom Americans enjoy today and I will be damned if some liberal panderer like you will go unchallenged when you try to dismiss open discussion of a real and measurable threat to OUR country. Now…if you have information that, as you suggest, WE all lack then feel free to enlighten us. Otherwise crawl back to your dark patch of the woods and let the brave stand around the fire and discuss the issue.

      • Eric Bischoff

        I’ll stand with Frankie rather than you Right Wing. You are the very same type of person that allowed the horrors of WWII. You are the one who is clueless.

        • Right Wing

          Oh Eric…does that mean we are not friends? I don’t think I could bear it if I knew someone disagreed with me. Now don’t go away mad…just go away.

    • tg7357

      Once religion’s ‘terrorism’ is another religion’s reason to fight to survive. Jesus said turn the other cheek, but I really don’t think he meant to turn it so far your neck breaks.

    • tg7357

      Funny you should compare Christianity with the Nazi creed. In all acutallity, the closest thing in the modern world we have now to Nazism IS Islam. Totalitarianism is still the same, whether its disguised as religion or ‘social change’.

      • Angel Wannabe

        tg357, That’s how the progressives got us IN THE MESS we are in today, with BLATANT LIES, CLOTHED AND DISGUISED, as being FOR THE GOOD OF THE PEOPLE___
        BLATANT DOWN RIGHT COERSION!!

    • Norm

      Frankie
      Great post!

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

    Jesus died for the sins of the world & rose from the dead & started a religion that says not only to love your friends but to love your enemies. Moses parted the red sea & led his people out of captivity & received the Ten Commandments. What did Mohammad do to gain Prophet status, besides murder a lot of people &/or force them to convert or disappear?

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    P.S. just look at the truth folks,THE MORE (FIRE) THE LEFT WING BUNCH MAKE just the much more (SMOKE)to make so many nation dividing issues,that we the whole american people,freedom loving and those who love our liberties are kept buzy just trying to put out all the fires the left wing traitors have started,just to keep all of us from,taking out all the washington traitors that sold this republic out long ago,and thats dumocrats and the self serving bunch in the rino bunch,throw them all out,on second thought,vote for what you think is best for this nation,but tell all the folks you know,that this great republic is dying,and they must vote this year to save it from the left wing neo-com communist monsters on all levels of this nations institutions.MAY GOD BLESS THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC ALWAYS.

  • N2Valus61

    Islam does not respect freedom of religion. Therefore, why do we as a free country need to allow this political/religion to over-run our foundational beliefs? WE DON’T! I am not a radical, and I am all for the freedom that our Founding Fathers had in mind when this country was established. I know that I am not alone in saying that being taken over by this group is NOT the intention of our beginnings. We MUST take a stand…NOW… ~peace~

    • Karolyn

      You signed off with “peace?” Where do you see them overrunning us????? I just don’t get all the paranoia. What are you gonna do. What is anybody gonna do? Are you guys gonna start being American terrorists? I think not. This is really the online version of a barroom, with everybody contributing their two cents about the woes of the world. It can be quite educational, though. Thanks for that.

      • Vicki

        I do hope you like wearing a burka.

        • Michael from the sidelines

          In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
          -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814

  • http://www.energy4existence.com Jerald Slomka

    Cna you say to hell with Obama and his Liberal Conies? We need, as a people, to take this country back to the productive force it was before Bill Clinton. We have dead manufacturing plants all over, at least we do here in Buffalo, NY and until we get a government and banking system williong to put us back into the higjhly productive leader that we’ve been in this world, we will always cow-tow down to the lower classes and intelligence of this world. I’m writng a book entitled: I Can’t Believe The Limits of Thought, and whoever would like me to send them an attachment of it needs to just email me at above and I will also enter your useful critique and associate your name as the input. Oh, for all you single women out there, there may be some “personally provacative” text but hey; I’m not Diplomat. I’ve just got an IQ of 244 and most everything in politics and business accumen currently underway in the U.S.A. rubs me wrong. If you don’t want to work for a living and help others succeed at the same time then this country is the wrong one for you you, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. It, the door, used to be an armor plated one but apparently the rust of the Liberal horde (the New Mob) is very insidious. Oh, back to the available women out there, I’m 42 and on Halloween I’ll be 43 and am divorced after fathering two extremely bright and independent children: the daughter is the oldest and at the critical age of 13. I know, I started late, but work was of utmost importance after the colleges I graduated from. As a hint of the book I’m writing (now around 350 pages)just consider that the world still comes to us for military might and financial assistance as the first choice when in need and don’t you think it is time we started collecting on the debt?

    • Eric Bischoff

      Although I was not a big fan of Clinton either, last time I looked he did balance the budget and he did leave arbusto with a surplus which he quickly squandered. Isn’t that what we want, a government that lives within it’s means. Isn’t that what all Americans should be doing, living within their means?

      Now there’s one thing that Islam has gotten right. They are against Usury. And their version of usury is, I believe the same as Jesus’. not the corrupt modern Christian version which now allows it as long as it is not above some arbitrary accepted interest rate.

      • JeffH

        the Clinton Budget Surplus; Fact or Fiction?

        FICTION!

        I am not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, but it is disingenuous at the very least to say of promoting Clinton’s record as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the cold hard facts support that statement.

        Clinton’s last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.
        http://activerain.com/blogsview/855368/the-clinton-budget-surplus-fact-or-fiction-

  • Woody

    And now boys and girls I have for your perusal a modern day parable.

    Brain: This is the brain to the immune system…do you read me? We have just been invaded by a particularly nasty strain of a potentially lethal virus. Mobilise your white fighter cells immediately, I’ll tell the body to produce lots of that green gooey stuff to slow them down, I’ll raise the temperature in the body to hinder them, if we work together I’m confident…

    Immune system: Hey look, they’re not nasty viral infections, they’re rapidly procreating micro-organisms and they’ve as much right to be in this body as we have.

    Brain: What on earth are you talking about-they will destroy this body in about two weeks if we don’t fight them off.

    Immune system: That’s just fascist cellist hype! I’ve no faith in those predictions-I knew a virus once, and he was a really nice guy once you got to know him and do everything he told you to. Besides we have an obligation to these poor viruses we’re all made of the same proteins–did you know that as we get older, we lose cells so we need to bring lots of new ones in. They have a positive contribution to make to this body and with a bit of tolerance on both sides, I don’t see why we can’t live happily together!

    Brain: Look-that’s our kidneys just packed in-they’ve made it a no go area for our cells. This virus might be made of the same stuff as us, but they are from a radically different culture, they seek to overwhelm and destroy our bodies-they don’t want to live tolerantly with us-now will you please do your job and help me stop them multiplying to the extent that they will soon take over this body!

    Immune system: But is it our body…doesn’t everything in nature really belong to every cell?

    Brain: Look you moron…oh no…now they’ve taken control of the nervous system!

    Immune system: Well, let’s face it – they were a bit underrepresented in the nervous system weren’t they? A bit of institutionalised anti-viral feeling there if you ask me!

    Brain: What the hell are you talking about? Of course they were underrepresented – they shouldn’t be in this body!

    Immune system: Sorry can’t help you, it’s my new policy on allowing viruses equal representation in every aspect of the bodies functioning. I’ve just re-coded all the white fighter cells, instead of fighting the viruses, they now seek to socially enable them, I’ve also taught the cells to respect this other culture.

    Brain: Well, that will explain why the viruses have just taken overall control of the entire body – and now they’ve just invaded me.

    Immune system: Oh well, I’m sure these nice viruses, now that they’ve seen our positive efforts to embrace their cultural diversity, will make sure that they give us the same respect, now that we’re in the minority – don’t you think brain?

    Hello brain…brain are you there? Ah! hello you viruses – sorry rapidly procreating micro organisms – so glad to see you and so many of you too – you did get here fast didn’t you? No…don’t do that…no…leave me alone…agggghhhhh – Brain Heeeeeelllllp

    LIEberals – don’t you just love ‘em…

    • tg7357

      I gotta admit–this answers a WHOLE lot of questions!!! LOL!!!

      • Woody
        • JeffH

          Got a good laugh. Thanks Woody.

          • Woody

            It’s a pleasure, Jeff…apart from which, the images, and the parable, speak the truth.

            LIEberals are the problem.

            We’re overrun with the gormless morons here in the D.K. (Disunited Kingdom) And the indigenous know all about being branded ‘institutionally racist’, and everything else the morons can prefix the word ‘institutional’ to.

            Our police are institutionally racist, or so claimed the MacPhearson report into the bungled police investigation of the racist murder of a young black boy. Because of this damning claim, the police have now retreated into a shell, and they spend more time ensuring they cause no offence to minorities than they do investigation crimes of any description. Always the ethnicity of victim or villain is treated with deferential respect so as not to upset the sensitivities of the minority groups who oversee this madness. The police have become so PC it defies logic. Since the term ‘institutionally racist’ was coined, and because of its profound effect on the police high command, liberal and ethnic groups go out of their way to look for other organisations to scapegoat with this slur, with one group insisting that the whole of the white populace of Britain is institutionally racist. Even the NHS has been branded institutionally racist, which is a sentiment I wholeheartedly concur with, seeing how it staffed by predominantly foreigners…of the Asian variety, and how it treats predominantly foreigners…of the Asian and African varieties.

            ‘Institutionally islamophobic’ is the new buzz phrase the invaders and their liberal sponsors have hitched onto their lengthening anti British baggage train.

            These days, it is as become a thoroughly entertaining pastime to witness the mental calisthenics practiced by liberal politicians or those occupying seats of authority. Now, because of Human Rights laws, the art of obfuscation has reached even newer heights, which kind of suggests that it is mandatory for all these public officials to take classes so they can become expert in this trait. Their ability to contort our language to mean other than what words or phrases implicitly imply when confronted by problems, or, when pressed by a vigorous journalist, and yet still be ably to land squarely on two feet and still not address or answer the questions they are faced with is testimony to their adroitness.

            According to our Law Lords, muslim extremism does not threaten the way of life of the British nation.

            “The real threat to the way of life of the nation, in the sense of people living in accordance with its traditional laws and political values, comes not from terrorism but from laws such as these.” Lord Hoffman, senior judge of the Law Lords.

            This remark was in reference to locking up without trial of foreign terror suspects until such time that they could be deported. The Law Lords ruled this was unfair and against their Human Rights. Now, because of these human rights laws, the government is further hamstrung because they cannot even deport these terrorists back to their own countries because they may face torture or even death, which of course is against their human rights. We are not governed by the elected government of the people, but by Judges who interpret and follow rules set out in various Human Rights Conventions to the letter, and which the previous stupid labour government has made Britain a signatory to. These laws, drafted elsewhere, now supersede the laws of this land which were drafted in the British parliament. Madness, utter fxxxxxg MADNESS.

            As Melanie Phillips put it: “So the real danger was not a terrorist movement whose aim was to defeat Western democracy and reinstate a seventh century Islamic empire that stretched halfway across the globe, but the measures that a free society had devised to protect itself from such a threat.”

            It would appear that among British government officials there is a congenital and spontaneous instinct for appeasement where muslims and other minority groups are concerned. The concerns and wishes of these ‘minority groups’ are put above those of the majority culture. Is it possibly to consider, given the number of muslims that invest Britain, that this is simply a question of pragmatism to explain their behaviour? Perhaps it is really a question of them being too timorous, or, more to the point, too bleedin’ COWARDLY.

            On the day that 4 muslims blew 50 commuters to bits on three trains and a bus in London, we had the Met’s deputy assistant commissioner, Brian Paddick, advise the UK population through the medium of television of this following little gem: ‘As far as I am concerned, Islam and terrorists are two words that do not go together.’

            And DENIAL ain’t just a bleedin’ river in Egypt, either…

            It gets worse. After the London bombings, police in Nottingham handed out green ribbons to show solidarity with muslims, who they claim were coming under islamophobic attacks, though no proof was ever furnished regarding these supposed attacks. While here in Birmingham, oops! here in Brummistan, the police now advise muslim community leaders that they are, or will be, carrying out raids on certain address’s because they believe those living at these locations were/are engaged in terrorist activities. All information including the names and addresses of those to be raided were and are forwarded to these muslim leaders prior to any raids taking place. And in Bedfordshire, guidelines were issued to the police force saying that when officers entered muslim homes they should remove their shoes, not use dogs, and not mount predawn raids because people occupying these homes might be ‘spiritually’ otherwise engaged.

            Knock Knock.

            ‘Who is it?’

            “It’s the Bedfordshire Constabulary!”

            ‘What do you want?’

            “We’re here to arrest you for terrorist related incidents!”

            ‘I’m ‘spiritually engaged, can you come back later?’

            “Yes, of course we can Mr. Khan. We’ll come back later at a more convenient time, and we’re so sorry to have troubled you, Sir.”

            Mr. Khan quickly exits out a back door and either goes into hiding or makes straight for the airport to catch the first available flight back to PakiSHITan…or any of the other shitholes they have emerged from. ‘Scuse French.

            Going back a little further in time to the year 2000, a report was issued by the Runnymede Trust. This organisation. A think tank, is infested with foreigners of every hue – and hard though this may be for you to believe, there were none of their kind present in the meadow at Runnymede on the 15th June 1215, when the Barons forced King John to sign Magna Carta. At least, I have no recollection of being taught about any asylum seeking Saracens being present at this most important juncture of our history. Anyway, this report, drafted by foreigners said: “There should not be ‘a fixed conception of national identity and culture,” and it suggested that the nation was an artificial construct. It recommended that the government should declare Britain to be a multicultural society, and candidates for senior police ranks should undergo training on racial equality and cultural diversity issues, that contracts and franchises should be awarded only after production of plans to increase black and Asian staff at all levels, etc.

            All this (And more) has now come to pass. The BBC is not known as the Baghdad Broadcasting Corporation for nothing amongst the indigenous. In fact, you could be forgiven were you to watch television here if you thought that all programs on all channels were being beamed in by satellite from the Asian sub-continent or the continent of Africa. Like wise, if you were to visit any of the council offices in this land you’d honestly think you’d disembarked from your aircraft in the wrong destination. Multiculturalism is the new driving force of British life, and it is ruthlessly policed by a state-financed army of local and national bureaucrats who believe themselves to be empowered with the authority of autocrats. It seems that whatever the invading foreigners want, the invading foreigners get, with no thought of consulting the host community to let them air their views on these issues. There’s little or no thought for ‘praise’ of the host community, and never an opportunity is missed to ‘blame’ the host community over some issue or another.

            ‘The multicultural society works perfectly well if the government wills it so – or, for that matter, if any of its state-funded ethnic quangos do…as long as they’re calling the shots.’

            (Magna Charta.

            At Runnymede, at Runnymede, what say the reeds at Runnymede?
            The lissom reeds that give and take, that bend so far, but never break.
            They keep the sleepy Thames awake with tales of John at Runnymede.

            At Runnymede, at Runnymede, oh, hear the reeds at Runnymede:-
            “You mustn’t sell, delay, deny, a freeman’s right or liberty.
            It wakes the stubborn Englishry, we saw ’em roused at Runnymede!

            “When through our ranks the Barons came, with little thought of praise or blame,
            But resolute to play the game, they lumbered up to Runnymede;
            And there they launched in solid line the first attack on Rights Divine-
            The curt, uncompromising ‘Sign!’ That settled John at Runnymede.

            “At Runnymede, at Runnymede, Your rights were won at Runnymede.
            No freeman shall be fined or bound, or dispossessed of freehold ground,
            Except by lawful judgement found and passed upon him by his peers.
            Forget not, after all these years, the Charter signed at Runnymede.”

            And still when mob or monarch lays, too rude a hand on English ways,
            The whisper wakes, the shudder plays across the reeds at Runnymede.
            And Thames that knows the mood of kings, and crowds, and priests and suchlike things,
            Rolls deep and dreadful as he brings their warning down from Runnymede!
            Rudyard Kipling.

            “When the sword of rebellion is drawn the scabbard should be thrown away” English Proverb

            Stirring words in defence of Magna Carta. On more than one occasion this charter has roused the English to take up arms against those who would try to deny them their rights. If you were to ask children in Britain today to tell you what Magna Carta is, the Habeas Corpus Act of 1679, or our ‘Bill of Rights’ act of 1689, and ask them to explain the importance of these documents, you’d like as not just receive a blank stare from them. They would most certainly be unaware that it is this document, this ‘Charter’ that underpins the American Constitution and that elements of the other two are also enshrined into that very constitution. You’d be amazed about how much these children would know of the Islamic faith and the various cultures of its followers, of Buddhism, of Taoism, of Hinduism, and just about every other religion and culture under the sun, everyone that is, but their own, their Christian culture. What they are taught about it is so tarnished by lefty drivel it’s hardly surprising they have no propensity to learn more of it.

            I believe that my father’s generation, and those that went before him, would indeed have at first, whispered, and then sent a SHUDDER through any government that tried to perpetrate the kind of wilful treason against the people of this island that the previous administration has, and that the present coalition government continues to propagate. Alas, there are now only scattered remnants of my father’s generation alive today. Too old to fight, and plaintively too well aware that their sacrifices in times past were for absolutely nothing. How these old heroes must feel that they have been betrayed, betrayed not only by the actions of government, but also by the generation they spawned to follow them.

            “A chill has settled on the room, the dark oppressed him like a tomb.
            He shivered in the winter air, old soldier in a rocking chair.
            Flickering memories will abound, until his own Last Post does sound,
            Will there be any left who care, old soldier in your rocking chair?”

            And with them will pass the last of England. She is, sadly, undergoing a long drawn out process of decomposition. The jackals and hyenas of the invading cultures have already begun to devour her now rotting carcass, and only one of them will emerge victorious to claim her bones…and all thanks to stinking liberals!

            ‘When the sword of rebellion is drawn it should be used to cleave the head of a liberal, and only returned to its scabbard when every last one of the bastards are dead.’ Woody, English patriot.

            WAKE UP AMERICA!

          • Right Wing

            Woody, accolades and many thanks. What you tell will be mis(sed) by many here in the US. Either it will be misunderstood because your writing does not include enough American colloquialisms or it will be misinterpreted as cryptic prognostication the likes written by Nostradamus. Liberal Americans treat the Islamic threat like Ahmadinejihad acknowledges the holocaust. America is in the early throws of the liberal driven multicultural revolution. Liberals here are swooning and fawning over any new culture and political ideology different from their own. It is as though the children have foregone the playful mutt and brought home the rabid dog instead? “Mom, dad…we are going to keep him! Isn’t he funny the way he foams at the mouth and spins in circles?” Beyond logic and into stark raving mad. The time may come when allies in reason draw swords together. Until then keep your hilt close by.

    • BrotherPatriot

      LawL! I laughed so hard…!!! Thank you Woody!

      But so scary true!

      • Woody

        ‘Tis a pleasure, Brother Patriot.
        I’m glad you found it amusing, and happier still that you see the parallels with current demographic trends. LIEberals, they’ll be the death of us all!

        Incidentally, Brother Patriot, I hope you won’t mind me using this opportunity to reply to RIGHT WING, and I do so only because there appears to be no facility to reply to his last message in this thread. Cheers, in anticipation…

        FTAO Right Wing

        Thanks for the thumbs up, Right Wing. I take your point regarding colloquialisms and what I have said appearing somewhat cryptic to some. Interspersing what I write with verse and quotations is done for the purpose of reinforcing a point, and/or to honour those who have gone before me – my ancestors, my kith and kin. All too many on this side of the pond forget the debt that is owed to our ancestors, and even more of them forget the debt owed to America. It was also intended as a warning to Americans, though I feel sure that you, if no one else, clearly understood that.

        “And if chance thy home salute thee with a father’s honour’d name, go, call thy sons: instruct them what a debt they owe their ancestors.”

        flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4988923489/in/set-72157624527247651/

        For the past 40 odd years I have witnessed the changes in my home city at close hand, and, in this island as a whole. As a child I would listen to the bells of my local parish church, St. Andrews, talking to the bells of other parish churches that were in close proximity to where I lived. My old school, also named St. Andrews, is now a Muslim children’s kindergarten. My wife’s old school, which lay a quarter mile distant from my old school, is now a mosque. St. Andrews church, an ancient, but picture postcard church, the church that I was Christened in, the church that I married in, has long since been demolished. Needless to say, my childhood neighbourhood has a very alien makeup to its present population.

        SLUMBER
        flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4859652071/in/set-72157624527247651/

        In my youth I used to ponder how to get to downtown Brum (Birmingham) without going over or passing under a bridge. No matter which side of this city one lived, it was an impossible task to fulfill. These days I ponder how to get to downtown Brum without passing through a Muslim enclave. It, too, is an impossible task to fulfill. I was 14 years of age before I saw my first alien face. Now, now I feel like an alien in the land of my ancestors, and, in the Autumn of my life, I have Kafkaesque visions of my grandchildren’s future. What a terrible, wicked, legacy LIEberals have bequeathed to our future generations.

        “If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my grandchildren may have peace” Thomas Paine, (paraphrased) my favourite radical Englishman – who had the good sense to become an American.

        Incidentally, Right Wing, I tend to keep abreast of the situation in the US, not least because I have a few American cyber friends, but also because of American internet sites I sometimes pop-up on…and it saddens me. And should the day ever dawn when I’m called to stand shoulder to shoulder with you, just know that this Englishman would deem it an honour…

        • Right Wing

          Kindred spirit here Woody. I am deeply sorrowful to hear that your homeland has been infested. I am also concerned as your tales are foreshadowing the outcome in many other places. The liberal voice is the first one heard (due to the annoying squeal) and it grows in volume here daily. Perhaps we are a dying breed but I like to think of this current state as SLUMBER and at some point support for logic and action will awake.

  • Johnny Machine

    Is it any wonder that among themselves they call us stupid goys. The radical segment of the Muslim population only started attacking us years after we were stupid enough to be suckered into supporting the brutal ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian population. The Israelis are laughing up their sleeve now that they have us expending blood and treasure fighting so that they can keep on dispossessing the Palestinians of their birthright and effectively gaining hegemony over the Middle East. Not one of our gutless politicians dares stand up to the Israeli/Jewish lobby. If per chance one did momentarily stray from the AIPAC approved party line, their grovelling apologies make those made to Muslims seem patronizing. Without the stranglehold the lobby has on our ruling class the difficulties we have with the radicals could easily be resolved. The greater danger quite clearly is the lobby which has subverted our leaders.

  • Michael from the sidelines

    Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites” –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

    • Vicki

      Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites” –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.

      Boy if he thought humans were bloodthirsty then he should have a look at the 20th century.

      Since the introduction of socialism(Circa 1864)and later communism (Circa 1848 though the concept has been around since plato’s Greece) 100′s of millions of innocent men, women and children have been burnt, gassed, tortured, fined, starved, imprisoned. All by their own (Socialist/communist) governments. So unlike the Christians who were merely around when millions were killed, the Socialist/Communist governments were DIRECTLY killing 100′s of millions of people.

      Now unlike the typical liberal I will actually provide a cite to backup my claim.

      http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

      You will note that some of the countries are “muslim” and all were socialist in one form or another. Some were communist.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        Are you upset that christians no longer hold that title?

        Agreed, As Thomas Jefferson said..
        “one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites.”

        so let’s press the darn buttons already and start again..
        ofcourse, in the name of some God or some Political Party.

        Just simply amazes me, hypocrisy at its best.

        You can not do against one, without becoming that wish you protect against. lesser of two evils?

        • Vicki

          Christians never held the title that you claim but fail to state. Governments held the title in the times that you imply and government hold the title in my examples.

        • Pathfinder

          Being neither fool nor hypocrite; I understand the concept of “us or them”. Thus I choose that we so called christians should survive and those so called Moslems should become extinct.

  • Dannyboy

    Dannyboy says You so called CHRISTIANS out there READ GAL. 1,8

  • BimBam

    I believe as a Christian nation, G*d creates punishment when we disobey Him. One way is he keeps in reserve this punisment in the form of liberals, democrats, and Muslims.

    To be unleashed on us whenever we disobey and neglect His ways. So America, and especially you liberals are doing your own self in.

    Keep the Commandments and these problems will be taken care by G*d.

  • Pete from Australia

    Islam has been a religion of intolerance since its founding. Mohammed said to some Bedouins who had just converted and wished to meet the prophet: “It is fortunate you joined, otherwise your heads would be rolling between your feet!”
    It is not a religion, it is a political, regressive, totalitarian regime aimed at world domination.
    Everywhere it exists (apart from where it totally dominates) there is tension.
    The ideology is totally amoral. It is taught that deception is a tool to be used to defeat the “kuffir” (every non-Muslim).
    Look at their record: Most of the Middle East was once Christian; Egypt, Syria, Turkey. Now tiny Christian groups are routinely terrorised. Massacres of whole Christian villages have recently occurred in Nigeria.
    Poor Doc Sarvis. I have no doubt he will be crying: “I believe in your right to practise your beliefs” as they slit the throat of his wife and kids before his eyes, in an orgy of religious fervour.
    I never forget the words of an Israeli friend who said “We know why we have the Army in Israel, because the Arabs like to use the kife at close quarters and they would slit the throat of every man. woman and child in Israel!”
    Muslims in the Middle East danced in the streets after 9/11.
    The “Cordoba initiative” is rubbing salt into the wounds, America.
    When the Muslims have enough power you will have one choice: “Convert or die!”
    Australians have been side-by-side with America in every conflict since WWI, we now have a significant Muslim population brought here by Left-leaning politicians. They already cause significant tension in our once-homogeneous society.
    I just hope the West wakes up before this dangerous, murderous ideology totally destroys our way of life.

    • Vicki

      “When the Muslims have enough power you will have one choice: “Convert or die!” ”

      That is actually 2 choices. I recommend the Patton solution to create a 3rd choice.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        Was that not the cries in Germany to begin world war II about Jews?

        The Catholic and Protestant Churches in Germany set the foundation for WWII and the atrocities to occur. Popes, priests and nuns supported Hitler’s regime. Indeed, Hitler could not have come to power without Christianity’s help.

        The German words, “Gott Mit Uns” means God With Us and appeared on many Nazi soldiers belt buckles during WWII.

        Hitler wrote: “I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord..”

        Do we just replace the word Jew with Muslim and start our own little regime? or have we already?

        What an evil web the religions of the world have weaved. Who will come out on top? and in the name of the same God? How many more must die for the name of this God? when will grown men finally wake up and figure out Structured Religions are the cause to the downfall of mankind, not mankind.

        hmm, let’s remove ALL religions.. outlaw them all! Anyone that does not denounce religion, set them 12 miles off shore without a paddle! Tax everything! And find another excuse to start wars. Follow the money, Greed always wins anyway.

        Just simply amazing.

        • Vicki

          What is simply amazing is your belief that Christianity is responsible for Hitlers behavior. The real story of Christianity in the time you attack is in the actions of the people you claim Christianity supported.

          http://colfaxrecord.com/detail/146465.html

        • Pathfinder

          Obviously, you are unaware that the nazis were new age occultists, not faithful christians. The Thule cult and such noted occultists as Mdm Blavatsky were the inspiration for their “pure arian” racism.

        • Pathfinder

          Also, it should be noted that Islam and Nazism are similar in their common hatred of Jews.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Personally I think that all religious extremists and there seems to be an awful lot of them here on this site are ignorant bigots and they are the problem. I could care less what your religion is just please keep it at home and keep it out of government and politics. Sorry this is not a Christian nation.

    We may be of different skin color and we may pray or meditate differently but we are one planet, one people, one god. Until you finally realize that we are one and that we should love our brother, you are doomed to repeat the same stupidity over and over again. Those of you that want to wipe out the muslims are no better than the muslims who do want to kill you. Get it together you hypocrite christians, your behavior disgusts me. Shame on you.

    • Mondovibe

      Thank you, Eric!

    • Gaffer

      You are off the rails Eric. Most people here, as you like to call us, are not advocating any kind of genocide. We are wondering why people like you are so stupid that you cannot see the simple fact that not all tribes are well meaning friendly groups who would make great neighbours. Some tribes will eventually do us in. With leaders like you in charge, we will disappear. Read history.

    • JeffH

      Eric: “We may be of different skin color and we may pray or meditate differently but we are one planet, one people, one god. Until you finally realize that we are one and that we should love our brother, you are doomed to repeat the same stupidity over and over again.”

      Have you lived in a cave somewhere without any contact with the real world? As was said in an earlier post, I believe it was TIME that said MAN IS IMPERFECT! Get it? Anybody that believes otherwise is either stupid or naive. I’d like to think you are naive but I know better. Unfortunately we ain’t one people, no matter what you care to believe. One GOD? Nope! Too many imperfect humans can’t get that one right either. One planet? Once again wrong! There are enough imperfect humans that can’t even get that one right and must live on another planet.

      Do unto others is my belief? Works for me but I’ll be damned if I’ll ever let my guard down. Too many imperfect humans to think otherwise.

  • dahni uru

    Subject: Islam explained in layman’s terms

    SIMPLE AND REVEALING AND IT IS ALL A PART OF THEIR PLAN TO CONTROL THE WORLD. (AND MOST AMERICAS DON’T BELIEVE IT, BUT IT’S HAPPENING IN MINNESOTA ALREADY)

    Here is a perspective by Dr. Peter Hammond. Dr. Hammonds doctorate is in Theology. He was born in Capetown in 1960, grew up in Rhodesia and converted to Christianity in 1977. In addition to his academic work, he is a Missionary. I hope you find this informative.

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book:
    Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..

    Here’s how it works:

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

    United States — Muslim 0..6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
    This is happening in:

    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.’ — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

    Obama Appoints two devout Muslims to homeland security posts.

    Obama and Janet Napolitano Appoint Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development

    DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano swore-in Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim, who was born in Damascus, Syria as ADC National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security Advisory Council (HSAC).

    NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant…?
    Just wondering.

    Was it not “Devout Muslim men” that flew planes into U.S. buildings 9 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

    • Gaffer

      2nd attempt
      “Subject: Islam explained in layman’s terms”
      Dahni, that was an awesome posting. I will buy the book.

    • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

      You are wrong about one thing. Long before the end of this century, there will not be a single muslim alive on planet earth. Christ and the armies of the Living God will see to that. And even before that happens The Beast of Revelation will go a long way in eliminating Islam. Anyone on the face of the earth who does not worship The Beast will be put to death. And the Beast is a spiritual ruler called Death in the Bible. When he sees that Christ has dealt the muslims a tremendous blow when He wipes them out in Mecca and Medina during their haj, The Beast will be emboldened to move against Satan and his city Babylon, and against the alliance of Islamic nations under Satan’s control.
      The year of The Lord began in 2001, it is the Seventh Millenial Day. Just as God said The rest day is the seventh day, sabbath means rest. Before this seventh day, Satan and the spiritual rulers had free reign over the earth except for God’s people Israel. Now he is facing a 1000 year prison sentence, and when he is thrown down from the heavens, all hell will break loose on this earth.
      The continents will move back into the original shape of a pyramid, with Jerusalem at the center. There will be few people left on the earth, when God sweeps it clean. And Israel will be the premier nation. And if God’s people need more room, we will push the infidels into the sea.

    • BrotherPatriot

      I have read this before…exellent work.

  • karen

    We [white and black] Americans are either Aborting like crazy or not having babies at all. At this rate the Black {Actual} Americans will be gone in less than 12 years replaced by African immagrants. In less than 20 years the White {actual} Americans will be gone replaced by White immagrants and the Native Americans if they continue along their lines can actually survive or out last the actual waining Chinese {true} Americans 25 years. Natural Chinese Americans do not believe in Abortion here where their immagrant counters are forced to do it in China. Native Americans do not believe or think the thought to kill unborn babies. Right now we have very prolific illegal alien women crossing our borders and if you mix them with Middle East Muslim men America will be conquered by breeding out.

  • http://BobLivingstonLibertyNews Margaret J. Graham

    Our constitution in our bill of rights states that government doesn’t endorse any particular religion. I am more concerned about people who feel that we need to take the founding fathers words and twist them, so that the expression “In God We Trust” should not appear on any thing from the government including money. The people who practice Islam and follow the words in the Quran are peaceful people. Frankly I think the area around the 9/11 site should have all religions represented. Talk about targets, I am sure I have one because I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We don’t need extremist Christians either.

  • alexandre lucien im

    Being in the biggest populated Moslem country & having learnt the history(i.spread)of Islam,my opinion (I am non a Moslem)”ISLAM IS NUMBER IN THE UNIVERSE(NOT WORLD)” so you can guess what will happen now & then.The flag of Saudi Arabia is (crossed) sabres,so you can imagine what is the use ?.Be critical ,not just relaxing

  • chuck b

    margret j graham

    please, “the people who follow the islam religion are peaceful” they are not peaceful, they are nuts, crazy and ignorant. they will cut your throat for simply not bowing to their command to join their cult. we have a lot of whacko religions in this country, however, they don’t condone chopping off your heaqd because you don’t believe in them. your kind of pacifism has caused many people to lose their lives. i would certainly rethink what you say.

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    Upon reflection, after reading all of the above, it should not come as a surprise to learn that the only way out of this morass will be an amendment to the Constitution. Otherwise, it’s been said that the seeds of its own destruction are sown within it.It being the USA.As to the specifics of such an amendment, I leave that to your own fertile imaginations. Nice article Doc, thanks.All the best.

  • http://gmail i41

    Just remember tha Lebenon had a Constitution modeled after USA. Equal representation, when the goat ranglers herded in their sows to farrow out none stop it only took 15 years to breed the Chistians in to oblivian. Best system would be to put muslim phony military and the queers in same battlian for 4 years enlistment. They would probably learn to get along, they could rotate who is the goat, the real goat will just have to get used to the smell. In some college towns some of the kids working in stocking shelves go and touch broken packages of pork and go handle food the muslims usually porchase like clothes and footwear with cerals and sweets. It is pretty hard to socialist democrats and a so called peaceful muslims, both like some freak to control them and want government control over every facet of your life.

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    Upon reflection, after reading all of the above, it should not come as a surprise to learn that the only way out of this morass will be an amendment to the Constitution. Otherwise, it’s been said that the seeds of its own destruction are sown within it.It being the USA.As to the specifics of such an amendment, I leave that to your own fertile imaginations. Nice article. Thanks.All the best.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      “As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] … it is declared … that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries….
      “The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation.”
      — Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams

      • chuck b

        michael sidelines

        where did you get your information from a history book printed in iran?
        what you say is baloney! this nation was created under the christian belief. not jewish, not muslim, but christian. all the founding fathers were christian except for two deist and they both believed in god. they added the words in the constitution congress could not create a religion to protect the people from the government creating a ruling religion. such as the church of england and the church of rome. muslims did not enter the picture, they would have no part of such an insidious cult.

        • Michael from the sidelines

          lookup more information on how the founding fathers thought of religion. Diest would be a description of most of them. Look up information on other than Christian sites. They seem to “bend” things in their own way. who would have thought huh? And as to what I “pasted”, look up the Treaty of Tripoli any place you wish.

          Sometmes the christian “better than thou” attitude blinds the truths. The Truth mainly being, No Christianity ws not what this country was founded on. Liberty and Freedom is the founding of this country. And that’s for ALL.

          • chuck b

            michael sidelines

            In this Law Commentary we are going to set the record straight about the paragraph
            quoted from Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli ratified by Congress on June 10, 1797
            during President John Adams’ administration.
            If there is one thing about the Treaty of Tripoli which anti-Christians cannot escape, it is
            the fact that no matter how you cut it, the supposed “non Christian section” (Article 11)
            of that treaty is itself enveloped in a permanent controversy concerning its validity and
            accuracy, and has been since the time of it’s origin. Simply put, whether pro or con with
            respect to quoting Article 11 to disprove America’s Christian heritage, the Treaty of
            Tripoli cannot logically or historically be referenced as any “sure thing” for any certainty
            whatsoever. At best the issue is clouded, and anti-Christians will have to look elsewhere
            other than the much befuddled Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli’s, in order to find a
            “lock tight” argument to stake their claim that Constitutional America was not established
            upon Christianity.
            Nevertheless, because this topic arises so often among people who have never actually
            studied the subject matter in the first place, an expose’ of the facts surrounding that treaty
            is long overdue. Let the record speak for itself.
            As the circumstances were back then, in an effort to combat Muslim piracy in the
            Mediterranean Sea, in 1797 the U.S. ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship between
            the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary – otherwise
            know as “the Treaty of Tripoli”.
            The section in question, Article 11 of that treaty reads as follows:
            “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the
            Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or
            tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act
            of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext
            arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony
            existing between the two countries.” [Note: “Musselmen” means Muslim ]
            (source):
            Treaties and Other International Acts of the United States of America , Hunter Miller, Documents 1-40 :
            1776-1818 Washington : Government Printing Office, 1931. – Treaty of Tripoli
            Those who quote the Treaty of Tripoli to supposedly “prove” early America wasn’t
            Christian by law, have usually read some Online blog which has clipped or cropped the
            eagerly touted Article 11 from a copy of the treaty, and then without any further study of
            the matter, point to it as their “catch all evidence” to support their claims that early
            America was secular in nature. While continuing in total denial of all the preceding
            several centuries of monumental Christian Law clearly written into the multitudinous
            organic documents upon which America was established, the Treaty of Tripoli is the
            humanist’s best isolated shot at trying to present an argument that America was not built
            upon Christianity.

          • Vicki

            Michael continues to spread lies about the founding fathers.
            Here is the actual breakdown.

            http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html

  • rwnut

    To hell with Muslims.

    • rwnut

      Throw Islam in there too!

  • Don

    Since Islam will have nothing to do with pigs I recommend we haul a few head into NYC at the location of the proposed Mosque pin them in on the lot and get the press to photograph them rooting around and put it on the front page of the New York Times. The Muslims will pull out of building immediatly and that problem is solved. Yes I am sick of pandering to them, they certainly won’t pander to us.

    • N2Valus61

      *LOL* Although I adore that idea…I really do, I doubt anyone would have the YKW to do it. Seems it would take care of it. I wish I could remember the country that when a couple of suicide-bombers did their “thing”, the country took the remaining body parts and wrapped them in pig-skins, therefore leading the Muslims to believe that their souls would not now be allowed to enter heaven. But most importantly, the suiciders leave that country alone now…TRUTH!

  • Michael from the sidelines

    Chuck B,

    I guess you filled the last reply so I will offer my rebuttle here..
    Although the christian-Judao society has at every turn tried to infest the Constitution with religious rederick, I can at least be proud of those in Washington that knew this would be wrong for the nation. Possibly just short of rebellion throughout the country.

    We now find ourselves in trying times economicly and our nature of predjudice is rising that ugly head again. We can’t talk about blacks, we can’t grab some more japanesse and throw them in camps, nothing about hitler can get anything going no more. we are protecting jews so that’s out. They wont let us kick the illegal mexicans out of “our” free country. I know, let’s kill all muslims before they kill us! Anyone with black hair, thats it black hair people with tans must die! How warped is that, especially coming from peace loving, “god fearing” people? or is that just “fearing” people? Bunch of Pansies! You want to fight, the service is looking for good men. or do you want others to fight for you, as you call names from the background?

    History is just going along it’s normal path. There were “insert other pagan” societies, then judist control, then chritian control and now islamic control. It’ all just control and for the money people. wake up! Don’t worry, if there is a world left something else will come along you can have faith in. nothing last forever. Well, except the eternal life, so way worry anyways if you believe? God is waiting for you with open arms.

    • chuck b

      michael sidelines

      i don’t really understand where you are going in your comments. you seem to be very hostile to christianity. that’s ok, that’s your privilege. you seem to very well versed, so how is it that you condemn the christians and have nothing to say about the dangers of islam? the qur’an is available to read. i have read some of it and it clearly states all infidels (christians & jews)must die if they do not accept islam. the christian church notably the church of rome has in the past eliminated a lot of people over the same contention. the protestant church to my knowledge has not sought out that endeavor. at one time in the past i think they hung a few witches. i do not belong to any organized religion, i do however follow the teaching of the new testament to the best of my ability. you blame the christians for hitler. you better go back and reread your history, the communist jews had a hand in bringing hitler to power not the christians. the treaty of versailles after world war 1 caused a lot of the problem. you might look that one up.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        Im hostile? The title of this commentary is “Send Islam to Hell”. it cries out to the Infidels to rise up. I was more or less trying to tell the so called christians here to calm down and think. Religious freedom is a right to ALL, not just Christians. No matter how you view “their’ religion. The majority of it is not knowing and understanding it as a whole. What’s with all the hate towards a “whole group” of people due to a few? what religion was the uni-bomber?, Oklahoma City bombing, the columbine kids? lets go get after those extremist religions first. Im sure their churches made them do it!! It just amazes me how simple minded most are and who or what they will follow. The koran preaches love. It also preaches protecting yourself and your religion. It also teaches if other religious people do not submit, make sure you collect your tax from them. There sure was alot of killing going on in the Bible no?

        Christians already lost this war and will be second class. It’s as simple as less Christians and more Muslims. There is no turning it back, so you can forget that part. Learn to live along side of them in peace. Make sure “our” goverment never allows religion to enter the Constitution and all will be fine. make sure you alway VOTE, to have the right people in office. One VOTE does count.

        If you “fear” Muslims, join the NRA and get involved in private carry gun laws before those in congress try to tighten those laws even more. The right to bear arms has so much more meaning now doesn’t it. Maybe it was the Muslims trying to take our gun away in the shadows? Or maybe Chritian Religions and “our” Goverment got together to start all this hatred? You just never know who is against or for you any more.

        • Jana

          Chuck, Michael from the sidelines gave you his answer. he is a Muslim shose belief system is the lie of Islam.

  • kamil haddad

    WELL GUYS EVRYWHERE NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE,I MEAN ALL WESTERN AND CHRISTIAN COUNTIES, ALL THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THE DANGER OF THE GROWING ISLAM IS CORRECT AND MUCH LESS THAN THE REALITY, FIRST OF ALL
    I FEEL SORRY FOR THE CHRESTIANS IN THE MOSLEM COUNTRIES WHO WHO I AM ONE OF THEM,AND LIVED THE REALITY OF IT AS A KID, YOUNG MAN AND I CAN SEE IT AS AN OLD MAN IN MY SIXTIES, WILL BE THE FIRST TO SUFFER THE DICRIMENATION AND EVEN EXECUTION, WHEN THE MOSMIM GAIN POWER. WE ARE FINE AND SECURED NOW AS LONG AS THE WESTERN COUNTRIES ARE POWERFULL,BUT IF THEY WEEKEND THEN ALL OF US-CHRESTIANS OF THE MOSLIM COUNTRIES AND WESTERN COUNTRIES CHRESTIANS WILL SUFFER. THERE I A LOT ICAN SAY ABOUT CLAIMED PEACEFULL ISLAM THAT NEVER BEEN

    • Jana

      kamil haddad,
      Thank you for telling it like it really is. There is nothing to compare to having experienced it. God Bless you.

  • http://n/a Shaeda Farooqi

    You Christians are really making a mountain out of a mole hill scenerio. You are all pathetic, stupid and ignorant in the remarks you’re making against Islam. Do no forget what the Germans did to the Jews; and let’s not forget the Crusades. No one religion has the monopoly of being “terrorist” (pardon me, the Catholic Christians of Northern Ireland!!!); there are good and bad persons in all races, religions and families. So far the Christians who are voicing their stupid hatred are the ignorant ones. So wake up and smell the roses – all the majority of the Muslims are not even bothered with your stupid opinions and replies. They’re carrying on their normal lives and you are all getting all stressed up about Islam. Do yourself a favour and don’t let your BP rise and cause you a heart attack. Give up hate – so that you will not die of an early heart attack – and therefore will live you see your grandchildren. Do it for the grandkids.
    Peace to you all and you are all in my prayers. May Allah keep you all safe, sound and happy. May the sun always shine upon all your endeavours.

    • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

      To Shaeda Farooqi.
      I don’t need Allah (Satan) to keep me safe, sound, and healthy. I worship the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob. The Lord God Almighty,the awesome Creator and Sustainer of the Universe, who will soon bring Allah to judgement and he will serve out his 1000 year sentence. You are just the stupid pawns of the devil, he cares nothing for you, only you are the only ones stupid enough to go along with his plan to destroy Judah and Israel.
      Read Isaiah 63, and you will see what the Christ, the Mighty Warrior,Commander of Armies, will do to the muslims at Mecca and Medina. Hope you are there at the haj when He makes His entrance. Like the scripture says, You will see an eagle overhead, but not really an eagle, but the Glory (The Throne) of the Living God. A flying ship unlike any known to man, from which the Almighty rains down fire and brimstone and destroys His enemies. Thats what happened to Sodom and Gommorah. You know they can’t find any evidence of those cities, they were utterly destroyed. Edom (Mecca and Medina) may say, We will rebuild the ruins. But this is what the Lord says, They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called The Wicked Land, a people always under the wrath of the Lord. You will see it with your own eyes and say, Great is the Lord, even beyond the borders of Israel.

    • N2Valus61

      Will you DENOUNCE the actions of your more radical brothers? Isn’t killing those of us who will not assimilate the ‘all-to-end-all’ solution in Islamic belief? Denounce the others…here, now…

    • Jana

      Shaeda Farooqi,
      You are the one that is following a so called ‘religion of peace’ that fosters ignorance and brutality. You are the one who honors the false prophet Muhammad, pbohg (pigs blood on his grave) who was a pedophile and at times a mad man.
      you are the ones that beleive in honor killing, and there is no HONOR in killing. You are the ones that are intolerant of any other religion but your own.
      You came to our country,so act like an American and quit trying to make us change our laws to suit you. You are in our country so quit trying to make us tolerant of your religious beliefs when you aren’t tolerant of ours.
      Your people insist on building the Cordoba House near ground zero when you know it is causing much disharmony and you are doing it to insult us. Quit burning our flag.
      You come into a country very meekly and start with a few baby steps. The next thing, when you get your population built up, you start pushing for more rights, and using the host country’s laws to get your laws implemented. Then as you get momentum, you start taking over. Look at some of our own cities here in the US where this is happening right now. Look at England, and France who are having a terrible time with this now also.
      The more I read and find out, the more I see why Israel has had to make such a hard stand in Gaza.

  • http://walnut39@tds.net Edwin Mack

    Who is the arsehole that came up with “POLITICAL CORRECTNESS”. Do-gooders take a good look at all the “GOOD” you people have ever done and for who. There may be some good Muslems in this country, some good Mexicans but there are none now until they can stand up for their supposedly new country and show us they really care for America. You see,the legal American citizens don’t have to put up with your crap. Our top leader doesn’t know his own racial make-up because on the census he claimed to be African -American. That’s something with a black father and a white mother.He hasn’t done a good legal thing in his whole life yet. He can however, bow to foreign rulers, but can’t stand near Americas’ flag or salute our flag. Quite a leader we have. Then on the other hand all we have done for months is complain with these comments and NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

  • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

    To Margaret J Graham. You stated you are of the church of the latter day Satanists, better known as the Mormons. Good luck following that pervert Joseph Smith back into the dirt you were made of.
    How about telling everybody about the Francher Wagon Train Massacre, where mormons shot disarmed men, then proceeded to rape and bludgeon to death the women and the children. You are the same scum as the muslims. Your god is Satan and you worship materialism.
    Every mormon I have ever known were liars, like their father, the devil.
    If they come to my door, I rebuke them, and tell them Leave you disciples of the devil. Christ forbade his disciples to go door to door. Same rebuke to Jehovah Witnesses. You poor deceived fools, all you have is this life, and you have wasted it. Dust to dust and ashes to ashes. Your dream of eternal life is just that, a dream.

  • David LeVine

    “Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.”

    Appeasement worked SO well against the Third Reich. Didn’t it?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest ApiMoKat

    With 1.5 billion Muslim people in the world and most being just regular people it’s time to stop with the fear that the hatemongers have you beleiving and think for yourselves.
    My neighbor who is a Muslim and her friends do not act, think or behave like the hatemongers would have you beleive.

  • Artie

    One final note before I kiss this thread goodbye. You all go on about how radical Islam is, how radical “twoofers” are! I suggest that you go back and read all of the posts on this thread and tell me that most of the people on this thread are not radical’s themselves. You people are all spewing hate and rhetoric. You call for the removal of all Muslim’s from the United States. You call for the destruction of Islam. The truth is that you are just as radical, in your views, as the people that you criticize. You are so hateful of Islam that you want to kill Muslim’s. Pardon me for noting this but, aren’t you eschewing the same virtues that you indict Muslim’s for? How much more hypocritical can you possibly get? And you call yourselves Christian’s?? Christian’s don’t behave in this manner, so if you claim to be Christian’s, you need to go back and remind yourselves of what Christianity is all about. It is about love and tolerance. It is about having a relationship with Jesus Christ! I am a Christian and i live my life accordingly, walking with God on a daily basis. You may consider yourselves to be Christian’s, but it seems that you have strayed far from Christian beliefs and ethics. I don’t even attend church anymore because it is filled with Sunday morning Christian’s, who give you a firm handshake and a fake smile and then, after doing their weekly duty of making an appearance at their local church, they spend the rest of the week acting in an ungodly manner. They are what we call, hypocrites!! I pray to God many times a day and attempt to live a Christian life. Do I stray and make mistakes? Of course, who doesn’t!! None of us are without sin, and that is the beauty of Christianity!! Jesus took on the sin debt of the world so that we sinner’s have an entry into Heaven, through our relationship with Jesus. However, that doesn’t mean that you can go out and kill someone and expect redemption! The fact of the matter is, if you sin, God will make you feel guilty! Our goal is to think, would Jesus approve of this, before we venture out and do or say something that we will regret! I harbor no ill will towards any of you and I pray that God allows you to open up your minds.

    • N2Valus61

      @Artie- I don’t want to KILL anyone! And I don’t want to be killed by your radical cohorts! Denounce killing Christians in their own country then…Quit putting that kind of garbage in our mouths. Islamic beliefs CALL for DEATH to those who do not believe YOUR WAY! The so-called christians of yester-year who killed were wrong, and that sort of thing died out a long time ago. True Christianity does not call for killing anyone who doesn’t believe the way they do…Islam DOES.

      • Karolyn

        Well, you sure coulda’ fooled me with the radical hate-filled posts on this site.

    • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

      To Artie

      You claim to be christian, but are you keeping the First Day of the Feast of Tabernacles right now.
      Lets get one thing straight. This is what God says, Amos 3,1 Hear this word the Lord has spoken against you, O people of Israel-against the whole family I brought up out of Egypt. You only have I chosen of all the families of the earth, therefore, I will punish you for your sins.
      Artie, I bet you are one of those touchy, feely, christians, that won’t obey any of God’s commandments, especially the 4th one, the sabbath day. You think you can spout some rubbish about you believe in God, and you can force God to hand you all the rewards. You even think you are better and more righteous than God, because you love God’s enemies, whom He hates. Well, if you are in the enemy camp, you will be treated accordingly. Christ said, I come not to bring peace but a sword. And I come to kindle a fire, and wish it was kindled now.
      If you obey and serve God in all His instructions, you are still an unprofitable servant. You become profitable by dying for God. You will soon be put to that test, when your muslim lovers put the sword to your neck and say, Bow to Allah or die. I have a funny feeling that you will be bowing to Mecca. We’ll find out how much a christian you are then. Keep listening to the lying shepherds that tell you you will receive eternal life for a little lip service. Do you really think that the super intelligent God of this Universe is that silly or stupid. You better think again.
      You go right ahead and love God’s enemies. I prefer to be like King David, who will be ressurected and rule over the 12 Tribes of Israel. He hated God’s enemies with a perfect hatred, and spent his whole life cleansing The Holy Land of those scum. The same scum that live there now
      You are of no use to God. You won’t give your life in the coming wars to secure God’s inheritance, and you will never be a member of the Armies of the Living God. So your best hope is to go as a sheep to the slaughter, like Christ did. It is your only hope for eternal life. But if you can’t obey God’s Ten Commandments and keep all of His Holy Sabbaths, you won’t qualify for His Kingdom. You will be one of those to whom he answers, I never knew you.

      • Artie

        This is what the bible has to say regarding your enemies:

        A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another (John 13:34).

        But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

        Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse (Romans 12:14).

        We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it (1 Corinthians 4:12).

        Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21).

        Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).

        Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble (1 John 2:9-10).

        Most of you, posting to this thread, claim to be Christian’s. Do you see where your thinking is in total defiance of God’s word?? All that you people are doing is preaching hate and intolerance. You are being disobedient to God. He doesn’t need YOUR help. I think He has control of the situation!!

        Levite Prophet, please tell me how you have come to this conclusion that I don’t follow the ten commandment’s!! You know absolutely nothing about me, so please enlighten me!!

        • http://zionministry.com Levite Prophet

          Artie,

          Your same tired quotes taken completely out of context. Love your enemies, Malachi said, For your enemies shall be them of your own household, meaning you are to love your own household, the House of Israel. Love your brother, my only brothers and sisters are those who have God’s Holy Spirit dwelling in them, therefore they are the Sons of God.
          Yes, vengeance is God’s. But why did God command the Israelites to slaughter all of the inhabitants of Canaan. Maybe it was because they were sacrificing their own children, just like the muslims today who hide behind women and children and convince 18 year old idiots to blow themselves to bits so they can kill innocent Jews and christians.
          Why didn’t God just kill all the people of Canaan Himself? Seems like you want God to do all the work while you sit in comfort on your arse and give Him lip service. I assure you that God has reserved the Levites, God’s own tribe, He took in place of all of the firstborn males in Israel, the only tribe that could serve at His Temple and Altar, to fulfill His Plan and Purpose. And if you would read the former prophets and Revelation you would find out what His plan is. To bring to judgement and death the spiritual rulers of this world. And to establish His Kingdom on earth. Don’t you pray, Your Kingdom come. But of course you don’t really mean it. Remember the vision granted Peter, James and John of seeing the Christ glorified as the coming Ruler in the Transfiguration. Who was with Him, speaking to Him, in that vision. Two Levites, Moses and Elijah.
          And Elijah must come and restore all things to prepare the way for the messenger of the covenant. And by the way, Elijah has come and is on earth now, because the time is short. We are the watchmen, who stand on the walls of Jerusalem and do not sleep or slumber. But like Christ said, Sleep on, for the Prince (Satan) of this world comes. As for you keeping God’s commandment, I didn’t hear you say that you kept the sabbath, or today’s High Holy Sabbath. You must be forgetting that God shows His servants, the prophets, all things. The rest of you don’t have a clue, because you do not have the Counselor, the Spirit of Prophecy, which is the Testimony of Jesus.
          Just keep loving God’s enemies, I’m sure you will enjoy the sight of your women, children, and grandchildren being raped and killed in front of you, and be prepared to lose your testicles also. When all that happens, come to Jerusalem and tell me how much you love Islam then. But be warned, your brand of political correctness will bring a death sentence at the hands of the Sons of Jerusalem. You will be turned back to the enemy that you love so much. It seems like you’ve been drinking a lot of wine lately, Satan’s wine that is, that causes insanity in all those who drink it. But the cup of the Lord is coming around and all nations on the earth will drink of it. The last one to drink of it will be the king of Sheshach (Babylon). The cup of the Lord is His wrath against all the wicked, who do not obey His Law.
          We Levites are held to a much higher standard than the rest of you Israelites. When Aaron, the high priest, two sons burned incense without God’s permission, they were killed and Aaron was not even allowed to mourn for them. Moses told Aaron if he left the front of the Tabernacle, he would die, because the holy annointing oil was on him. The rest of the tribes of Israel were carrying their god Molech in their tents, yet they told Moses they were all Holy. Moses put them to the test, and the earth swallowed them up alive. To rise up against a Levite is a virtual death sentence. You need to read Moses’s blessing on the tribe of Levi, and then you may get some idea why we are chosen to fulfill all that God has ordained for us. We don’t do it for man’s praise, like your worthless shepherds. We do it because we stand in awe of the Great Creator and we truly fear Him.
          The Lord will save the dwellings of Judah first, so that the honor of the House of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem (the Levites) will not be greater than that of Judah.

          • Artie

            And you seem to put yourself on a higher level than all other’s, don’t you? I have had it with all of you foolish people!! You are all chasing after terrorist’s that aren’t here, while the NWO and it’s complicate U.S. government play you for the fool’s you are!! I got news for you, it isn’t going to be Muslim’s that do you in, it is going to be your own government!! And you all have fallen directly into their trap. They did a great job setting up the Muslim’s for 9/11! They knew exactly what you fool’s would do! So while you go on your seek and destroy missions to kill off Muslim’s, the NWO plan continues on and the lies of 9/11 are kept alive and unprosecuted!!

            I am done with all of you. You sicken me with your blind hatred and gullibility!! I sat here and I read every single one of your hateful and sickening comments. I am done!!! You people are repulsive and you all deserve each other!!

            And you, Levite, have not been given a mandate by God to destroy Islam. If you believe that you have, then you are totally deluded!!

            Good riddance fools!!!!!!!

          • john

            All you seem to do is quote from the Old Testament..try reading the New Testament or are you afraid it will destroy your reasoning,Christ says love your enemies…however…everybody is getting so worked up and spewing alot of tough rhetoric but what are we supposed to do?If this is such a concern for us and it dam sure is what we need to do is pray,fasting.Make sacrifices by giving up something important to you,offer it up to God,if we all did this you will see great change.The situation at hand is our own fault.We as a people have become so complacent and comfortable that we push religion to the side,we put God somewhere on our list when He should be at the top.We allowed godless immoral unethical people gain power in our govt.We allow smut to be our entertainment on tv,We let leftist,communists,liberals and gays teach our children and re-write history.We let our families fall apart.This has been going on for decades now..what we’re seeing is the boiling point.If we don’t change then nothing will.In order for the world to change and people to change,hearts must change.We need to start saying no to everything that sets itself up against God.We need to say this is wrong and not accepting it.Shut the tv off..the golden calf.Stop shopping on Sunday.Stop going to movies that promote violence,porno..etc.Stand up against abortion,euthanasia,and the homosexual agenda that is destroying the family and attacking religion.Instead of all this hate..try to pray and change.It all starts in the home.If we can unite in our homes as families then we will succeed.We are living in times where the lines are being drawn.You can no longer have grey areas..it’s either yes or no,for or against,good or evil..we can no longer be complacent or accepting of sin that is forced upon us..especially by our govt. and it’s immoral laws that are passed because of special interest group agenda money.God is watching..what will we do..change..conversion in the heart will bring conversion of our nation.If Christians showed the same reverence for God that the Muslims do for allah the world would be totally transformed.Lets stop pointing fingers and look to ourselves.

          • Karolyn

            “The kingdom of God is within.”

          • Artie

            One major difference here, I am quoting New Testament, you are quoting Old Testament!!

  • chuck b

    artie

    try living in a muslim country with your christian virtue. hang a cross in your front yard and freely speak about your religion to your neighbors. make sure your insurance is paid up.

  • Viktor Leben

    Wow Conservative dudes and dudettes,

    Allot hate against the innocent Muslims ! Like what happen to toleration ?

  • Yuri Durnovo

    Do not have to look far KOSOVO= illegal immigration=muslims becomes majority=take over Kosovo =muslim country=repression.Welcome to democracy in action.

  • Khawar Rana

    John Myers has to learn first that who are ‘Mushrikuns’ and what is the meaning of this Arabic word.

    Mushrikun: means people who do not believe in One God.The worst of all sins according to Islamic belief is to set rivals to almighty God, ascribe partners unto Him and take others for Lords beside Allah.

    In the early days of Islam, people in Mecca and other parts of Arab lands used to worship statues made of stone and wood and they did not believe in oneness of God as the Christians – Jews or Muslims believe.

    Those Mushrikun were against all the Abrahamic religions (Christianity-Judaism-Islam). A non Muslim does not come into category of Mushrikun. The concept should be cleared.

    As regard to Jihad, it has also been interpreted. Jihad has many meanings- It is a fight against one’s own evil wishes- A fight against poverty – A fight against illiteracy – A fight against injustice – A fight against those who commit crimes against humanity. A fight against those who are cruel, rob and kill innocent people, make them slaves – and so on.

    • third party

      THEY SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR LAST PARAGRAPH,THEY ARE THE DUMBEST PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH RIGHT NOW,SCORING 8-12 POINTS LOWER ON THE SAME IQ TEST GIVEN TO ALL RELIGIOUS GROUPS,THE MUSLIMS OVER ALL TESTED THE LOWEST THAT HAVE EVER BEEN RECORDED.WITH A 92 ON A IQ TEST,WE WONDER WHY THEY ACT LIKE THEY DO.

  • Jubal

    I say let them build the mosque then fill it with pig blood. When they protest, Spray them with pig blood. MacArthur had the right idea. They are more afraid of pig blood than bullets so use it.

  • Yuri Durnovo

    Khawar Rana please stop twisting the truth,Mushrikun means Associators= those who associate with other gods to God who were (Trinitrian) Christians.According to Surah 12:106 as ascribed by Abdulah Ibn ‘Abbas uncle of Muhammad and one of the greatest scholars of the early Islam and the first exegete of Koran.

  • smitz

    A good Email from yesterday about Tolerance that I just have to pass on here to this blog

    I am perplexed that so many of my friends are against a mosque being built near Ground Zero. I think it should be the goal of every American to be tolerant. The mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
    That is why I also propose, that two gay nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque thereby promoting tolerance with in the mosque. We could call the Clubs “The Turban Cowboy” and “You Mecca Me So Hot”.

    Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork and have an open barbeque with spare ribs as its daily special. Across the street a very daring lingerie store called “Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret” with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods.

    Next door to the lingerie shop, there would be room for an Adult Toy Shop, its name in flashing neon lights.

    If you agree in promoting tolerance and you think this is a good plan, pass it on.

  • third party

    I personally do not fall within the religion dogma,all religions are filled with rapist,pedophiles,terrorist,tax evaders,ect..But I do agree that Muslims need to start living in the 21 st century,rather then the 7 th century.TO appease any religion is UN constitutional.MUSLIMS ARE NUMBER ONE IN INBREEDING,COMPARED TO EVEN THE MORMONS,THAT SAY’S A LOT FOR THEIR OVERALL IQ LEVEL,IN FACT THEY ARE AS POLLED TO HAVE SCORED 8-12 POINTS LOWER ON THE TEST,I WONDER WHY.

  • Jim Lindsey

    For one thing, Christians should know that when Hagar left the “tribe” the Angel appeared to her and said that she should go back. That she would have a son and his name would be Ishmael. He would be a hunter and his hand would be against every man, and every man’s hand will be against him. This was God’s punishment to Abraham for hot believing strongly enough, going to a “surrigate” and not waiting for God to fulfill the covenent with Abraham and Sarah. Abraham and Sarah had Isaac whose decendents wound up as slaves in Egypt, leading to Moses. Moses wound up in Sinai, marrying an Ishmaelite which was supposed to re-unite the two peoples and create “the chosen peole”, but it didn’t work, and Hebrews(children of Israel” (who had been Jacob). and Ishmaelites remained separate. Muhamad set up his own version of God, (which became Allah) and inserted his own anger about Ishmael not receiving Abraham’s blessing, and they are (knowing it or not), killing “us” because they want to “earn” that blessing that they didn’t get from Abraham.
    Muslims will want to kill all non-believers thoughout time, and they WILL NOT be changed. (Remember::: all men’s hands will be against them.) A lot of “Christians” aren’t and don’t know that. They need to learn to practice their faith and obey the Bible in All things. So many just read the part of the Bible that makes THEM look good.

  • Sheryl

    Look if you say the hell with Islam than your saying to God why do you hate the Muslim community because someone told you they bomb the world trade center who was that, someone you voted in office then when you seen his stuidpity you wanted him out of office. Now because he said that the muslims bombed the trade center you believe him come on you as the America people knew he was a liar than but I guess you have to blame someone. But if you really look at it who were did the plane come from really The United States did this not Islam and many other thing what about what happen to Libya The United State started a war with them and for what? So it not the hell with Islam, it the with the United States and all the Lies being told to the American people. And before you go judging Islam find out about them they are not what you think they are AL SALAAM ALAKKUM.

  • hundabuxt

    I’ll say “to hell with Islam” and mean it. Your people have a poor track record in contemporary times. Do you know what’s been going on in Denmark? How your people moved in, taking advantage of Danish largess and after increasing in numbers sufficiently, making demands and putting excessive pressure on the welfare system. Look at England where your people succeeded in getting a parallel Shara Law instituted for Muslums. Look what your people have done in Michigan, particularly Dearborn. I do not believe in moderate Muslums. You all read the same book and even though some are not as militant, you’re passively supportive. How about Tiqujija? Isn’t that the Koran sanctioned justification for lying to further Islam? You’ve even pissed off the French. You rationalize cutting heads off on public media. Smash the heads of young women, strap explosives to people who are promised 72 virgins if they blow themselves up often killing innocent people, too often children among them. You’re not a people to admire nor one we want here.

    • chuck b

      hundabuxt

      AMEN!

    • Woody

      In all of Scandarabia and Eurabia, Hundabuxt. And it’s heading your way thanks to the PERVERSE form of liberalism that presently holds sway in the West.

      “There are no moderate Muslims. There are no extreme Muslims. There are just Muslims.” ‘Sir’ (COUGH) Iqbal Sacranie, former advisor to the government, and also former head of the MCB (Muslim Council of Britain)

      “I destroyed their idol temples, and instead thereof raised mosques… where infidels and idolaters worshipped idols, Musalmans now, by God’s mercy, perform their devotion to the true God.” Sultan Firoz Shah Tughlaq

      “The Palestinian problem was about far more than Israel. The Arab goal was to wage war against Europe and America, and to ensure that henceforth there would be no peace for the West.” “The Arabs, would advance step by step. Millimeter by millimeter. Year after year. Decade after decade. Determined, stubborn, patient. This is our strategy. A strategy that we shall expand throughout the whole planet.” George Habash

      “A proselytizing religion [like Islam] cannot stand still. Islam endeavours to expand in Britain. It aims at bringing its message to all corners of the earth. It hopes that one day the whole of humanity will be one Muslim community, the Umma.” Dr. Zaki Badwari, former Director of the Islamic Cultural Centre

      “Our way of thinking will prove superior to yours.” Imam mullah krekar – Oslo, 2005

      “We’re the ones who will change you.” Imam mullah krekar – Oslo, 2005

      “We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims,” Dr Azzam Tamimi

      “The truth is that Islam is a revolutionary ideology which seeks to alter the social order of the entire world and rebuild it in conformity with its own tenets and ideals.” Maulana Maududi

      “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to be dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.” Omar Ahmad – CAIR (Council of America-Islamic Relations)

  • Jim Lindsey

    You who want us to believe that you want to be our friends and don’t believe in radicalism should prove your friendly natures by standing beside us against the militant Al Quaidans and help us find people who want to kill us so we can believe your claims. How many Muslims know where Bin Laden is, but won’t tell us because they are actually with him and not us. Sure, there are those who call themselves Christians, and commit atrocities, but they are in the minority and hide among us like your jihadists do among you. Actions speak louder than words, so ACT like our friends.

    • Dogma-Free

      Maybe the time of Christianity is just about over, and the time of Islam as the dominant religion is about to begin. Really, would that be so bad?
      Thanks to the constitution, you would still be free to practice your religion, and they would be free to practice theirs. And, as an Atheist, I would be free to not practice yours or theirs.
      Maybe it’s time you learned tolerance of other religions, cultures, and ethnics.

      By the way, I worked with a number of Muslims over the years, and I never once had any of them blow me (or themselves) up, behead me, or drive a car full of explosives into the building. The ones they show on the news doing that are but a tiny percentage, and from having talked to some of the Muslims about it, they are as pissed off about the radicals as you are, because they spread hatred (like most of the so-called ‘Christians’ are doing here on this page), and make it dangerous for their own kids to walk to school, or get on a bus, or go to the store. Would Jesus approve of his supposed followers spreading messages of hatred, and intolerance towards other people, without ever trying to get THEIR SIDE of the story? I doubt it, but then…what do I know of Jesus? Most of the religious folk I have ever encountered have been extremely judgmental, and largely ignorant, so maybe this is the norm. Well, I should say…all the religious folk, *except the Muslims*.
      Maybe it’s because they know what it feels like to be judged, and so they wouldn’t want others to feel that way. That sounds pretty peaceful to me.

      I just had a quick look, and the list of Christian-lead atrocities is way too long to fit into a single post, and would take more time and effort than I would care to put into it…and plus, I really shouldn’t have to anyways.
      I would encourage you to look into the history of America, and their ‘involvement’ in the Middle East (I’d call it meddling, but that’s just me) since World War II, and try to see it from their perspective.
      After reading about how America tried to control their people and politics for so long, I could see why some of them would resort to guerilla tactics, and since those didn’t work too effectively…why some might resort to so-called ‘terrorist’ tactics. Still, I doubt even Muslims want to blow themselves up (despite what FAUX ‘news’ might tell you), as most human beings just want to watch their kids grow up, and watch their grand-kids grow up, and so on.

      The bottom line is that America needs to get its troops out of the Middle East, and let them sort their own crap out. Besides that, war is brutally expensive, and the tax-payers of America can’t afford to keep supporting the wars started by the Bush administration (and, yes…they ARE Bush’s wars), to help Cheney and Halliburton (the highest profiting corp. from the wars) line their pockets with sh*tloads of money.

      It’s too bad that FAUX ‘news’ tried so hard to discredit Ron Paul as a potential president, because he seems to have the most sense when it comes to foreign policy (and not to mention the most knowledge and best understanding of economics)…but because he didn’t toe the standard Republican line of cow-towing to Big Business, they did their best to make sure he didn’t get any favorable air-time. But then FAUX ‘news’ is owned by Rupert Murdoch’s, Newscorp…and they are big business, and so we have Big Business telling us what to think. Not unlike this website.
      But whatever…Obama will be ousted soon, and then the next Republican drone can drive us all deeper into the pit Bush pushed us into, and then the middle class will disappear, and it will just be the haves, and the have-nots…and you and I, my friend, are the have nots.

      • Right Wing

        DF I don’t agree with your supposition that Christianity is subject to evolutionary extinction in the US while freedom in general is preserved. Religious diversity is a tenet of our freedom and serves as an important measure of its stability. It does not matter which religion is dominant as long as one does not intend to eradicate another. That would constitute an attack against America from within. Your comments concerning Christianity appear to be aimed at provocation rather than seeking the harmony in atheism you espouse. The point here is that Islam is a different belief that includes aggressive acts aimed specifically at those who do not accept it. Islam is a wholly integrated system of social, religious, and political guidelines which must be adhered to under penalty of dismemberment or death. Non-believers of Islam are to be killed. Many people like you post here believing this article is aimed at inciting “racists, bigots, and war mongers”. I don’t agree with stereotyping and scapegoating anymore than any human that has read of the holocaust. I say this is different. Our free country is under attack. Look at Arizona. I don’t hate people from South America, I hate the fact that our government takes limited action against the issue and takes great actions in violation of our Constitutional guidelines and in contradiction to the will of the majority of Americans. The same majority is against followers of Islam who seem to have no tolerance for non-believers. They are not Muslim Americans…they are Muslims living in America and their “religion” mandates that they subjugate cultures they inhabit by degrees, through intimidation. I find this to be a determined and deliberate attack on the freedoms provided my by the blood of some pretty selfless and honorable men and women. I for one will fight like hell to pass the keys to my daughters before I would bow in servitude to anyone. Review the Greek/Persian battles that are perhaps the pivotal establishment of western civilization. Are there 300 here that would stand for freedom?

  • chuck b

    dogma free

    i agree with you on one point, you are one of the have nots “have not a clue in whats going on”

  • BigIron

    Stop thinking of Islam as a religion; it is not. Islam is an “ideological worldview” that is totally incompatible with our own.

    The basic “Christian” god and the “Jewish” god have sufficient similarities and beliefs attached to their religions to support a similar “ideological worldview” but this cannot be said to be true of Islam. Indeed one need be neither a Christian nor a Jew in order to properly function within our culture and within our Republic but ones belief system, “ideological worldview”, must be congruent with Anglo-Saxon Common Law and Natural Law and the belief that all “rights” are endowed upon the people by their Creator (or God by whatever name called); this is really the “foundation” of our Country as delcared within our Constitution and thus our declared “ideological worldview”.

    The nature and foundation of Islam simply does not allow it to fit into these requirements. Islam is not a religion, it is an “ideological worldview” that is incompatible with our own. Being that Islam is an ideology and not a religion, Islam does not suffer the protections of freedom of religion guaranteed by our Constitution; it is, in fact, the enemy of our Constitution and, thus, the enemy of our Country.

    • Right Wing

      Simple, concise, very well put. Good post.

  • Paul Watt, Sr.

    I am tired of all who call islam a religion!!!! Islam is not a religion!!!! IT IS A CULT
    Anyone can call any organization a religion but it does not make it so!!
    What religion has it’s prophet slaughter innocent men – women and children??
    What religion advocates the beating and stoning of women who may blink the wrong way??
    What religion advocates certain of it’s followers, die in the process of killing its enemy as well as their own and promise a reward of 72 whores? I say whores because not even allah can find 72 virgins in their world!!!! Correction – I guess it is possible if the females are newly born!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WHAT RELIGION ADVOCATES PEDIPHILIA????? YEP – islam!!!!!!!!!!
    islam is nothing more than a military and political CULT – nothing more or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    A CULT BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL A CULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The media is afraid of stating the truth – fear is a terrible deterant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Watch the video with Col. West – tells it like it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2010/09/colonel-west-and-obama-on-islam.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NewZeal+%28New+Zeal+Blog%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

  • Michael from the sidelines

    Ok, I guess it does not matter that Islam’s god is also the Judao and the christian God? I must assume all those Muslims in europe had been intimidated to change to Muslims by threat. I must assume ll of europe, those in the police stations throughout the world are afraid of Muslims and just let them threaten everyone into the Muslim faith.

    There is a reason people are changing to Muslim, and the reason shows throughout this forum. christians have more hatred and more of the “better than thou” attitude then any religion in the world. I guess the worse thing, those sunday clothes you purchased. No more going to Church on Sundays and swearing on mondays. Muslims pray 5 times a day. No more Strip clubs or pornography, it’s outlawed by Muslims. No more Gays another outlawed way of life. And finally, you steal something, off with your hands. Kill someone, off with your head. Hmmm.. no more bowing to those liberals..just common sense laws with common sense action in a moral way. Islam belives in the Commandments from Moses and they live by them. stoning of Adulters? this a bad thing? How many guilty have sat in jails throughout the USA with “us” paying the bill? How many should be put to death as they did to their victims. Wake up.. Muslims willt ake over because when it comes down to it, they are doing what alot of you wish “we” would do already.

    Only Difference is Islam does not believe in the trinity and they live the laws of their Koran. period.

    I guess, if your filth like a pig, yes you would be scared of them. About time some religion stood behind their principle instead of changing them like their underwear.

    Now, will the two gay guys in the back please step forward so we can marry you here in America under God’s Will.

    • Jana

      Michael from the sidelines,

      Michael, reading Sura 7:155-158 can you tell me who is speaking to whom in each of these verses?

      • Michael from the sidelines

        I guess the best way to answer that, is to send you to a place discussing it. http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/qbhc03.html
        It seems like a big one for chritians.

        Probably on the same lines as jesus saying he “knew” Abraham.
        are you saying Mohammad as Jesus was around for many many years?

        We will wait now, while an Islamic scholor can chime in.

        Im not muslim.

    • Artie

      Michael, I agree with you regarding these people, who dare to call themselves Christian’s, with the mindset and pure, unadulterated hate that they spew!! They physically and mentally sicken me!!

      However, if Islam is still practicing these ancient things like stoning, cutting off hands and heads, they need to get out of the medieval times and start living in the 21st century. These traits, that you discuss, are abominable for any religion to practice, and are likely the reason that so many people deplore them. But, the people, on this thread, are paranoid that the radical part of Islam is going to spread, like fire, throughout the nation of America and take over! There is no excuse for, self proclaimed Christian’s to be acting in the manner that these people do! In my book, they are anything but Christian’s!! Instead of following the words of Christ, and loving their fellow man, they indict an entire religion based on the act’s of the radical fringe. Christianity has it’s own brand of radicalism. Did you ever hear about the man who shot the doctor of an abortion clinic? When asked why he did it, the man said that “As a Christian, i couldn’t watch this man murder innocent babies!”. In the meantime, I guess it didn’t occur to him that he just murdered another person! All in the name of Christianity? Maybe his brand of Christianity, not my brand!! All that intolerance breeds is hate!! These people don’t seem to get that! As a matter of fact, these people don’t seem to get anything! But, they DO trust the U.S. government!! Go figure that one.

    • littlelucy

      Muslims still live in the 7 th century,that’s why they tested the lowest on IQ test,atheist tested the highest.All religions are evil,history in fact proves that,but in the 21 st century is present time,Muslim nations are the most illiterate of the dogma crew.FOR some reason there Santa clause belief is strong through violence,Mohammad a true pedophile,was quoted ” god only speaks to me when I lye down with my 8 year old wife,come on people,these freaks are crazier then Scientology freaks.

      • Michael from the sidelines

        lil lucy you silly gurl.. tell me please your not a christian preacher? Are you serious on any of that which you just spewed? are you that much in the dark gurl? please, go read, listen and learn. Your talking about IQ’s and showing yours. amazing.. simply amazing..

        • DAN

          HER FACTS ARE TRUE,THEY TEST THE LOWEST OUT OF ANY RELIGION TESTED.

    • shawn

      You are so wrong Michael. I had this discussion with a fellow teacher who taught muslims in Africa. He used to naively state WE ALL WORSHIP THE SAME GOD, RIGHT? Wrong. The mosque of Omar in Jerusalem has an arabic saying over the entrance which translates to “God has no son” I put it to you then, if their God has no son, and the Christians are saved by the precious blood of His osn, the Lord Jesus Christ… how can they possibly be the same God? Obviously they cannot.

  • Russ

    Read this and you all may finally understand the bigger picture! If you don’t read it, you remain blinded by propaganda. jewwatch.com

  • Paul Pawley

    Their smart, they can take over the world just by having babies.
    we Kill ours so they win, by mass numbers. If Christians would
    be as serious as Islam, then you would see things differently, but
    when we let a man put a small cross in a bowl of pea and call it
    art, Christians do nothing. But the Koran in bowl of pea,
    all hell breaks loose. So who has the most faith. Christians let
    things slide, in Islam, they say no way, and go to war over it.
    If Christians do not respected the Bible the way Islam respects
    The Koran.
    So who has the greater faith. What are you willing to fight for?

    • LOOKING GLASS

      PAUL, YOUR RIGHT THE INBREEDING OF THE MUSLIM NATIONS ARE AT A ALL TIME HIGH,RECENT POLLS SHOW THAT AS A RELIGIOUS GROUP THEY TESTED THE LOWEST BY 8 POINTS.THE HIGHEST IQ’S CAME FROM ATHEIST.MUSLIMS 92 ATHEIST 114.THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RETARDED PERSON,AND ONE WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE A DOCTOR,SCHOLASTICALLY SPEAKING.THE BREEDING IS A 8 TO 1 RATIO COMPARED TO CHRISTIANS.

  • EltonJ

    The best way to fight Muslims is to be good Christians. Treat them with Christian charity. :)

  • alice

    Treat the Islam religion with Christian charity? I will tell you what…I am a woman and love Jesus, but if anyone comes to hurt my babies and my family, I will not be a coward and will defend my family and my country. The Bible does not like cowards and only through Jesus will we get to heaven. the jealousy between Issac and Ishmael is still going on. Abraham protected his family and I will mine. The God of the Bible tells us we are saved by grace and faith in Jesus and not of works. The leaders of this country are basically cowards and bow down to Lucifer of all pagan religions. they are working for a waste of time, useless NWO for devil worship. Pagan religions thrive with hate and the Islam religion is a tool of the devil and has made those poor people suckers for hell. Jesus is Lord, King of kings and no one can stop Him from winning. Only those who turn to Him won’t go to hell. He already won at the cross and is coming back after the anti-christ. Is the anti-christ a Israel hater from the Middle East? The book of Revelation is coming to pass…and the wicked working in this scheme are pawns of God…who is allowing all this for the scriptures to come to pass. The devil is a pawn of God, and can do nothing without His permission. America! wake up and smell the manure in Washington! who are bowing down to pagan ‘gods’ what’s its name. ” better dead than red”

    • Artie

      Alice, I agree with you completely!!! These people are not Christian’s, in any sense of the word. They are intolerant, hateful and ignorant people! Yes the NWO is alive and well! But these people still believe that 19 Saudi’s pulled off 9/11!! Even when presented with proof that it was a false flag operation, by elements of the U.S. gov’t and Mossad, physical evidence, they turn their hateful glare’s towards us and call us “twoofer’s” and “crazy conspiracy nuts”!! They are uneducated fools who don’t have the intellect or the intelligence to unravel themselves from their almighty flag’s and actually look at the evidence!! Very small minded individual’s!! They just can’t connect the dots. And they think that THEY are patriot’s????? It is we, the one’s who seek out the truth and call them on the carpet, yes us “twoofer’s”, who are the real patriot’s!! Why? Because we see what they have done to our country and our Constitution. We see how they have sent our kid’s into illegal war’s for fabricated reason’s! What they fail to realize, when they call us “conspiracy nut’s”, that they are falling for the most inane conspiracy theory of them all, the government’s “conspiracy theory” about what happened on 9/11!! They will just keep on giving up their freedom’s and rights, all in the name of the “war on terror”. A war that began on 9/11, not because 19 alleged Saudi’s attacked America, but because the U.S. government attacked it’s own people and blamed it on Muslim’s, the fall guy!! It is their ignorance that is going to spell doom for America, by letting the gov’t get away with mass murder false flag op’s, pre-emptive strikes against sovereign nation’s that had nothing to do with 9/11, and this continual and endless war machine that can’t be stopped unless the American people wake up and start using their brains! But, of course, these intellectual midget’s believe everything that the mass media tells them, just like good little sheep!!

  • LAWMAN

    Artie,GREAT POINTS OF FACTS,THE MEDIA ON BOTH SIDES IS JUST PROPAGANDA HANDED DOWN.GULF OF TONKIN,THE COLE,OPERATION NORTH WOODS,OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD,TOO MANY TO LIST.WE as a american government have taken false flag operations from the Germans within the last sixty years,just like the REICHBERG FIRE,

    • Artie

      Well Lawman, we know of these true “conspiracy theorie’s” because of actual DECLASSIFIED GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT’S!! Of course, all of the sheeple, hanging out by the feedbin here, probably won’t accept those events as facts! It is documented, all throughout American history, that the government has all kinds of shady deals and usurp their power at the drop of the hat. Most people don’t even realize that this government knew the Jap’s were on their way to Pearl Harbor. They didn’t utter a word about it and, in fact, allowed the attack so that they had a solid reason to jump into WWII. Now, just prior to the turn of this century, it was stated in the PNAC documents that we need a new “Pearl Harbor event”. That is exactly what we got on 9/11!! But, you know what, these people will deny everything and anything that points a finger at their own government. As you said, the list goes on and on. These people believe that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone for his own skewed reasons, assassinated JFK. Prior to his assassination, JFK was trying to circulate treasury bills, end the CIA, pull Americans out of Viet Nam! But LHO, managed to shoot JFK, with 3 shots in 6-8 seconds, with a cheap Italian carbine, a task that the best professional marksmen couldn’t physically do, let alone aim at a moving target. As a matter of fact, Oswald came up negative on a parafin test for GSR! He has gone down in history as the, as the press describes, the ALLEGED assassin of JFK! He never got to trial because he was shutup by Jack Ruby, two days later. Ruby knew the deal and told reporter’s that JFK’s assassinaton came from the very top. About six years later, he died in prison from cancer. Of course, I’m sure all of these rocket scientist’s, here on this thread, just continue to parrot the lie that Oswald assassinated JFK. To this very day, we still don’t know who, exactly, was responsible! But I’ll tell you one thing, he was trying to get rid of the FED, so they are a likely suspect. You know the terms sunup and sundown? These fools probably think that the sun is what moves, not the earth!

  • Kevin

    He souds like a Nazi.

  • LOOKING GLASS

    ALL RELIGIONS ARE EVIL,ALL COMMITTED MURDEROUS ACTS OVER TIME,SOME MORE PROMINENT IN SOCIETY,MOST COMMITTED CENTURY’S AGO,I THINK IF ALL THESE RELIGIOUS GROUPS LIVE IN THE 21 CENTURY,EVERYTHING WOULD BE OF,THE DOGMA THAT IS RELIGION IS THE DEATH OF ALL.

  • littlelucy

    YOUR RIGHT,the Muslims still live in the 7 th century,that’s why they tested the lowest of all religious groups.

    • Ron

      LittleLucy – Come on… “ALL” muslims????!!! The “little” must refer to your exposure to the world and the size of your heart. It certainly refers to the number of muslims you know personally. I’ll bet it is zero. If Jesus was really in your heart and head, you couln’t possibly be this hateful, ignorant, and close minded. Re-search your soul for your daughters’s sake, if not your own.
      Personal Liberty comes with the responsibility of eliminating personal ignorance.

      • DAN

        SHE’S TELLING THE TRUTH,MUSLIMS TEST THE LOWEST OUT OF EVERY RELIGION TESTED,NOT TO SAY THE OBVIOUS,BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY ARE THE MOST IGNORANT PEOPLE AROUND,AT LEAST IN OTHER COUNTRY’S,THANKS TO america,THEY BECAME SMARTER OVER THE DECADES,DUE TO OUR OPEN ARMS.

  • hundabuxt

    There is evil in the hearts of all men, which is why the 10 Commandments could not be lived up to and Christ, God’s son, being perfect provided our way to Heaven through his sacrifice on the cross assuming you accept him.
    Alice put it quite concisely above. The fundamental Christan belief is sound, however the purity of the Bible has been and is currently often manipulated with issues taken out of context or misinterpreted. People dance around with dangerious snakes, people followed Jim Jones and drank the KoolAid, people bought new tennis shoes, took drugs and went to sleep permanently to catch Hail Bop the comet, Eve disobayed God and ate the apple and then convinced Adam to join the party. We all struggle with good and evil every day. History has provided us with many examples of weird and even destructive so called “religions”. Some pagen, some scary with human sacrifices to include children. There used to be a comedian , Flip Wilson I think, who often said: “The devil made me do it”, but there was and is much truth to the quip. The devil tempts us continuously to do wrong. The Muslums have Muhammad. He died. Christians have Christ. He died and overcame death, returning to be witnessed by at least 500. Christ is the only religious leader to have died and come back to life and I know the athists will say prove it. The Bible proves it and because of it we have faith. Christ will come back and you don’t want to be here then. He’s not bringing any virgins with him. America does some wrong thing’s and we have some corrupt, dishonest and self serving people in government. The devil makes them do it. But virtually every country in the world looks to us, uncle sugar, when they get in trouble, be it war, famine, natural disasters or whatever. Do we screw up? Absolutely. Do we do self serving, imperialistic, resource grabbing moves. Absolutly. Big business and powerful people have influence in government and they exercise it. Every previous super power historically has done the same thing’s. Its human nature. But I see few other places in the world where 14 million hispanics and numerious other groups attempt come here by any means, legal or illegal. America has its faults and certainly serious problems, many of our own making but I don’t see any evidence of desperate people trying to sneak into North Korea, Africa, the Sudan, Somolia, Russia, Greenland, Iceland, Romania, Bulgaria, Bosnia or numerious other places. Muslums want to remake us in their own image. We like it just like it is, notwithstanding some adjustments in November so adapt or go away or we will inspire you to do so.

    • Karolyn

      I watched a piece on Good Morning American this morning (Don’t get your knickers in a bunch now!) where they had their reporter dress wearing a head scarg and visit different parts of the country. In NYC she was barely noticed. In an airport, she heard a guy say he hoped she wan’t on his plane. In Houston in a mall and on the street, she got a lot of stares. In another town, people in the shops were almost overly kind and sweet.

      They had 5 Muslim-American women on a panel who all wear head scarves. One of them said that if her daughter wants to wear it, it’s up to her, but she wouldn’t want to see her do it in some backwoods (my word) town. Some of them talked about the fact that some of the teenagers were wearing them because they think it’s cool. They wear all different colors and prints and dress them up with jewelry, etc. Does this sound like a bunch of anti-American terrorists talking? They were all just middle class women dishing and laughing just like anybody else.

  • Michael from the sidelines

    Hmmmm, I found this on Youtube.com it’ been up for over a year. I cannot find any Christian Scholars that rebutt him on this.
    hold onto your seats and listen to a little history going back a few thousand years. it’s in 8 parts I think. A Harvard divinty major who was once a pastor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4KW-dysKk

    Please point me to rebuttles on this from the Christian side.
    If there are any?

    thank you

  • chuck b

    michael sidelines

    there are several of these types of video’s sponsored by what i call crackpot professors or theorist. does anyone have conclusive evidence of anything concerning the bible? i doubt it. the mormons claim joseph smith dug up the book of life directed by an angel in a dream, he was countered by critics that say he bought the manuscript from a cellmate while in prison who was a con man trying to start a new religion. they claim there are records of such, i don’t know. mohammed came on the scene 530 years after christ and didn’t have a very clean record, he was quick with the sword and lots of people were beheaded, given the choice at the time i myself may have become a muslim. we can choose to believe what we want. i do know the muslim religion is geared for ignorance and superstition, a cruel way of life for women and very deadly in some cases. i can’t remember anything that christ said that was detrimental to ones life or the threat of beheading, it was just the opposite he taught people to love one another and you didn’t have to be muslim.he offered us eternal life if we followed the easy rules of just being a decent person and believing what he says. you have to have faith to believe in christ, there are no records other than the new teatament. for me, you can promote islam all you want or search the qur’an to find your utopia, i’ll believe in christ, my question is christ god or the son of god, i prefer to think he is one of the greatest teachers of good and could be the son of god, that’s my hope, so if you want islam have it. i would wear a neck guard just in case. here’s another one you might get excited in watching:
    http://www.youtube.com/user/sandysmission#p/c/FF1EED1AA51B4835/0/UHiuaGJ46zo if you can’t paste this, type it in google

    • Michael from the sidelines

      I guess what your trying to say is, no there is no rebuttal on what the scholar from harvard has to say. I couldn’t find one either.

      • Artie

        I don’t think that there needs to be a rebuttal. Christianity is a faith based religion. Either you accept it or you don’t. But, if you are a true Christian, I am sure that you have seen how God has effected your personal lives in ways that you can’t even explain. I have had enough experiences in the last 20 years that I don’t have to go by faith alone. I have seen God do some pretty miraculous things in my life. Things that just can’t be explained by human beings!

        • Michael from the sidelines

          There is no need for one, because none can be brought forward.

          So, even after knowing you been lied to all your life and the Bible you “thought” was the the way has actually been manipulated by men. You still keep the faith in a fable? Welp, I am sure the christain teachers and leaders are proud as to how well they have gathered their sheep that even the truth will not sway them.

          • Michael from the sidelines

            I keep forgetting, I am talking to people that still believe that 9-11 was orchestrated by a handful of guys in a cave in the middle east and not by their on goverment. People who would rather send their sons to Priests and Wives to Pastors. Ignorance is bliss.

  • chuck b

    michael sidelines

    what are you going to rebut?, i have the same evidence he has and my interpretation may differ from his, in fact i think he is jumping back and forth from different writings and different interpretations and drawing his own conclusion. if he believes in the qur’an then i would brand him as a crackpot. stop and think about something, this argument has been going on for centuries and there have been some highly intelligent people deciphering the scriptures, so if what he says is true then he must be the smartest man in history and all these scholars before him failed the test. if he believes in the qur’an then my estimation of him is like i said, a “crackpot” yes there were muslims in the country from some of the earliest date, however, they were slaves and didn’t advertise their faith, some converted to christianity and were branded as insane by other muslims.
    they would not have been allowed to engage in the writing of the bill of rights or the constitution. i doubt if the people knew much about the islam religion at that time and would even consider allowing the sharia law. we should expel this religion from our country and fast.

    • Woody

      Seems John Quincy Adams, 6th President of the United States, son of John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States, did know a thing or two about I-S-L-A-M…

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4860160774/in/set-72157624651756790/

      There is no known antitoxin for the condition known as ‘muslims in your midst’ save one: the complete removal of this cankerous parasite. If not treated diligently and quickly the spore of this species rapidly reproduce and overcome their host; afflicted societies invariably expire in the fullness of time.
      :)

      • Michael from the sidelines

        Are we back to Founding Fathers etc? Seriously?

        Please, know your history about the country you live in.
        Our founding Fathers knew Structured religion would try to turn this country in what they fled in europe and made sure there would always be the separation of both. Our founding fathers didn’t fear ghosts or the boogieman. They stood as MEN.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLpe98iXQ5M

        • Jana

          Michael from the sidelines,
          I know you think you know it all, and you may out talk a lot of us, but it doesn’t make you right.
          You use the progressive history misrepresentation. This is based on lies and manipulations, just like you are.

          • Michael from the sidelines

            Well thank you. I been just using common sense and looking up what you all can look up. I am not one for to fear the boogieman. A man comes to my door with a gun or sword, he is greeted with such. Till then, he is greeted with a handshake. I really worry about people of Religion that fear death so much? Maybe they are not as secure in their religion a they thought and maybe they should investigate other religions to find the security they are missing? Knowledge usually releases fears. Once you grew up and knew the boogieman was not under your bed, you slept with the light off.

          • Jana

            Michael,
            Again, you who think you know so much. Yes, you do use common sense in a few things and yet there are too many other things that make you seem so very unstable.
            I am a Christian! Am I afraid to die? NO, death has no sting for me, I know where I am going.
            Study other religions? Yes, I have been studying Islam now for about a year? I know enough about it and Muhammad to know it is a religion that was made up by a sick man, for men, and against women.
            As far as knowlegde releasing fear, it has to be truthful knowledge, not the made up garbage you are tying to present.
            The TRUTH will set you free.

        • Woody

          I’m not an American, nor do I live in America. I’ve visited a few times – love the place, and, I’m glad to say, I’ve never had the misfortune to meet any of your kind on my travels whilst there.

          So, you’re not too enamoured with the wisdom of the founding father’s or the generation that followed. Okay, so how does the wisdom of this fellow grab you?

          “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

          Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.” Sir Winston Spencer Churchill

          No? Well, if you’re not convinced by the word of an Englishman, how about the word of this Frenchman? (A rather excellent book, I might add)

          “The Arabs are and will remain irreconcilable enemies of Western civilization. They are not only endowed with a mentality different from ours, but they are, in addition, animated to the last degree in their bigoted enthusiasm by the desire to impose upon others this mentality which they regard as the highest expression of human genius.” (An extract from ‘Islam and the psychology of the Muselman’ by Andre Servier. First published in English in 1924)

          Still too far in the past for you? Okay, if not those wise gentlemen, what about this lady? Which kind of brings us very much up to modern times.

          “We are being challenged by Islam these years. Globally as well as locally. There is something impressive about people for whom religion imbues their existence, from dusk to dawn, from cradle to grave. There are also Christians who feel this way.

          There is something endearing about people who give themselves up completely to their faith. But there is likewise something frightening about such a totality, which also is a feature of Islam.

          A counterbalance has to be found, and one has to, at times, run the risk of having unflattering labels placed on you. For there are some things for which one should display no tolerance. And when we are tolerant, we must know whether it is because of convenience or conviction.” Queen Margrethe of Denmark

          Still not convinced, eh? Try this from the Carolina Journal. Churchill on Islamic Fundamentalism. Incidentally, it’s ‘Churchill’ the grandson…

          http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=3158

          I still figure you’re not paying any attention to all this baloney concerning the ‘Religion of Peace’, (Rest In Pieces) still, I suppose it’s hard for you to fight against an enemy whose made an outpost inside your head.

          Hey, it’s nothing personal, you understand – and just to prove that I really do have a sense of humour, I’ve included a link to a nice little presentation from Zipperfish for you. }:D

          zipperfish.com/zf-toons/yaafm-12-muslims/

  • hundabuxt

    Chuck B

    Yup. I agree. Its much like the Bed Bug infestation.

  • RJ

    How can you call a group of people who, call them selves religious when the religon advocates violance. The mulim religion practices mosaic law. Mosaic law was abolished when Jesus Christ was born and thru his ministry while he was on the earth. Islam is not of our Father in Heaven it is of the advessary (Satin). How can you put your trust in this kind of deception. WAKE UP AMERICA before it’s to late, you better beleive that it is almost to that point now
    RJ

    • Michael from the sidelines

      Your so right, how can you put such trust into deception. Constantinople, the founding of the trinity. denied by most Christians in the day, controlled by Rome. words included into the bible that never had been. even the death of christ on the cross was not of certain. Pilate becomes a saint for killing christ? Christ even tells God long before the Crusification. I have finished my job you sent me to do. So, why would he had died? Jesus never once told you to pray to him or use priests or prechers to pray for you. abraham, moses, jesus and mohummad all pray straight to god as you should. there is but one god, pray to no idols or men.

      Please, read history and what really happened. Find the true beginning and end. He warned of False Teachings. The Jews Denied as Do the Christians what message Jesus actually brought to the jews and yes, he was here “only” to bring a message to the jews. Sorry Gentiles. Read your bible.

      look how much death has been caused in the name of Christianity. why do you think we are fortunate to have left europe? Not to be persecuted by a religion. Don’t rise up as christians and do it again in the name of God. Been there done that.. Didn’t Hitler try the same? We have no place else to go but hell.

  • Nancy burleson

    I am going to take a stab at one little thing in this dilema, on Seth McFarlane’s fear of being killed by muslims if he insult’s them. What makes him so brave to insult God time and time again on Family Guy (sadly, very popular) I would worry about God more than the muslims, they can only kill you once, God has eternal judgement waiting. Seth you better rethink your fear priority. Nancy

    • Michael from the sidelines

      Well like alot of people, he probably just fear religious fanatics from any sec. and Islam is the current boogieman it seems.

  • DAVID

    I agree with the Jewish philosophy that”if you know a man is coming to kill you, you rise up early in the morning …and kill him first!” I believe the Biblical reference to “the beast”, in the book of Revelation is naming Islaam. The Quran is a compilation of the rantings of an illiterate, itinerate, pervert, and only the power of Satan could allow those rantings to deceive such a mass of people.
    I don’t know if they can be stopped, but as the man said….”we have to try”…

    • Michael from the sidelines

      There has been Christians and Jews that live among the Muslims since there been christians and muslims. IF all this fear is brought on by some sort of warped christian american mentality, why have the muslims as you all say “allowed” those to continue to “live” in the middle east? Long before our country NEEDED their oil and we had little influence? Your allowing church leaders and Goverment pull you into a war they see favorable for both. One for religious control and another to remove yet more rights in america while stealing oil from the middle east. It has nothing to do with Islam. It’ all about control and the strings they have attached to you puppets.

  • hundabuxt

    Michael from the sidelines

    We did in a sense steal oil from the middle east along with the British and others. This occurred prior to and following WW2 however the arabs got educated and nationalized their resources. Mexico did the same. Greed has no borders or national loyalities. We’ve become dependent on middle east oil along with much of the rest of the developed world. America has more than adaquate energy resources we’re unable to develop due to the militant nature of ardent opposition like environmentists and wealthy hypocrits. The middle east has become fabliously wealthy thanks in part to the insatiable appetite for oil in the US which requires we import in excess of 60% of our daily needs. We’re closer to and more mutually dependent on the Saudi’s than either government would want the general public to know. George Bush permitted Oval Office access to a Saudi Prince that suggested more of a cabinet post than a casual visitor. Absent oil our interest would be more archaeological than political not unlike the absence of a vagina with a woman removing virtually any interest a man has in her. In both cases they’re high maintenance. That little metaphor ought to get me killed.
    Seriously, Richard Pawley’s post above September 22 is an eloquent description of the situation on this subject. If you haven’t read it I urge you to do so. In the final analysis, humans are self destructive absent submission to God/Christ. You can fight it all you like and claim that those of who are believers are religious nuts, but the evidence keeps building to the final days, which are much closer now.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      Yup we create our own end.
      You know, when you think about it. The absence of or the cleaning of the earth of ALL religions would end the fears of the comming end. Unfortunate as it is, man’s own veinness would never have this happen. we need to belive there is something else after death and it helps control a society from going to wild, well we had hoped. We fear life more than we live it. Man cannot except that shit just happens and he was part of it. evolution…the freedom of religions and the boogieman.

  • hundabuxt

    Sounds like you subscribe to the communists suggestion that religions are the opiate of society. The “coming end” as you say seems much more plausable insofar as self induced goes, than it ever did given environmental and political problems to include nucular proliferation. Even without religon, man is inclined not to get along. Wars are perpetual in the historical context no matter what. A need for someone or something to worship is an instinctive quality in humans. It often manifests itself in pagen ritualism, particularly with aborigionals, but man has always looked to something more powerful than him for help and guidance.

  • chuck b

    michael sidelines

    so much for your philosophy. if we didn’t have religion man would be nothing more than animals. come to think about it there are some democrats in congress that could be. your idea of man is warped, man didn’t crawl out from under a rock, the word evolution has been twisted like bill clinton twists words. show me any evidence that you can come up with that man just evolved. some of these wild eyed professors are still digging in africa trying to find the missing link. every few years they dig up some form of ape and try to connect it to man, any suggestions. (pelosi?)
    maybe we have been installed here by some space alien society, that makes more sense than evolution. maybe that space alien is what we consider a god.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      maybe we evolved AND had alien inceptions.. anything is possible. even witch doctors helping Sarah Palin..

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB24_jrh8Us&feature=related

      in all cases, it points to a mute point on rising against one religion over another, or the boogieman fear one associates with any.. so many biased based opinon without any known facts. show me the facts as to why europe has changed to Muslims over Christianity with Threat and not with their own will. They still have a goverment that would stop such nonsense. People decide their faiths in a free nation.

    • Artie

      Chuck, Mike of the Sidelines is a foolish know it all. The problem with most agnostic’s is that they REFUSE to recognize a higher power than man because that would make them accountable for their action’s. But, he doesn’t bother me one bit. I am secure in my relationship with God and I have had God intervene in my life on so many occasion’s. I am not going to pass judgment on Mike’s fate, when his time comes. He is a big boy and has a right to believe in God or to deny Him. No sweat off of my brow! Let me put it this way, I would rather live my life with God and find out that I’m wrong, rather than to live my life, denying God, and find out that I am wrong! Every person has to make their own personal call regarding this.

      I do, however, agree with him in his assessment of 9/11 being an inside job. I have studied this topic for many years and the evidence is overwhelming that it was an inside job. With all of the available evidence, as well as lack of evidence that should be there, one has to beg the question, why hasn’t there been a new investigation? The answer to that question is crystal clear!!

      • Michael from the sidelines

        well Artie, thanks for the knowit all comment. I really don’t remember saying which religion I fall under if any at all or if I do not believe in any. But you go ahead and judge.. Seems most here already judge on all of Islam. You do realize, we get writng and reading from that neck of the woods? Or we wouldn’t even be able to debate here. Alot of things come from the Middle East. How soon we forget. You do realize, even your Jesus comes from there? I don’t need a God to guide me in moral judgement upon myself. I know what is right and wrong. although Moses came with commandments from God, I already knew by time I could think that though shalt not kill would be a good thing. thou shalt not steal must be right. I also know about judge, yet ye be judged. Seems here in this so called Christian “better than thou” rebuttals.. some should think and read their bibles more. Jesus came in peace and spoke of nothing but peace. Said do nothing but turn your cheek and do not rise up. Yet, in the name of Jesus you all want to knock down other followers of the same God? and I am the one to point out as in the wrong? amazing..simply…amazing.. common, is this candid camera?

        • Jana

          Michael from

          Oh, don’t kid yourself. You have revealed a lot about yourself and your lack of belief system. Everything you write reveals it. Even your so called knowlegde of The One True God is way off base.
          Its really too bad you keep talking when you should be listening. You might actually learn some truth instead of the lies that you have been deceived into thinking.

          Islam’s god and the Christian God are NOT the same God. Sorry, but moron comes to mind here.
          This taken from a recent article’s blog on this site from a Muslim man.
          Munir says:
          September 9, 2010 at 12:09 am
          The Christians and the Muslims would agree: The God of the Christians is a Merciful and a Tolerant God.

          They don’t even believe we serve the same God. Even if we did get our languages from the Middle East, we certainly didn’t get our languages from Islam or Muslims.
          You are the one coming across as thinking you are better than everyone.

          • Michael from the sidelines

            Jana? Moron? Are you serious? You know that little of Islam and your against it? it’s all the same story. Mohummad is just the prophet after Christ sweety. ALL the rest is basicly the same story. Now go take your medication. And your calling someone else a moron? ok, then just plain stupid comes to mind for you. At least look up what you wish to spew about.. seriously? And your willing to hurt people without any knowledge? Is this Salem Ma. back in 1692? brrrrrr..cold hearted christians, ya can smell’em comming..smells like pork.

          • Jana

            Michael,
            You obviously didn’t read my reply from above, so just in case you don’t remember what you said, since you are a man of few thoughts and many words, I am repeating it here:

            Michael from the sidelines says:
            September 25, 2010 at 3:07 pm
            Well thank you. I been just using common sense and looking up what you all can look up. I am not one for to fear the boogieman. A man comes to my door with a gun or sword, he is greeted with such. Till then, he is greeted with a handshake. I really worry about people of Religion that fear death so much? Maybe they are not as secure in their religion a they thought and maybe they should investigate other religions to find the security they are missing? Knowledge usually releases fears. Once you grew up and knew the boogieman was not under your bed, you slept with the light off.

            Jana says:
            September 26, 2010 at 12:52 am
            Michael,
            Again, you who think you know so much. Yes, you do use common sense in a few things and yet there are too many other things that make you seem so very unstable.
            I am a Christian! Am I afraid to die? NO, death has no sting for me, I know where I am going.
            Study other religions? Yes, I have been studying Islam now for about a year? I know enough about it and Muhammad to know it is a religion that was made up by a sick man, for men, and against women.
            As far as knowlegde releasing fear, it has to be truthful knowledge, not the made up garbage you are tying to present.
            The TRUTH will set you free.

            I hope you enjoy your bacon for breakfast. I am now shaking the dust off of my shoes and will not reply to you any longer. It is a total waste of time and space.

  • chuck b

    michael sidelines

    simple answer why europe is changing. it’s called immigration, europe has allowed the blacks and arabs from muslim cultures in due to their liberal policy, england has the same problem. we should learn from their mistake and force these people back to the sand dunes.
    islam is a trap for the uneducated, they breed like rabbits and if you raise a child to believe in mother goose, it will be hard to convince him as he grows older that it’s nothing more than a fable. they pray on their knees so many times during the day, they haven’t time left to learn anything or make a living. do you really think a being such as god would require you to prostate yourself five times a day in prayer, “plain stupid”. we decided our faith when we created this country: “protestantism”. that’s why they came here to get away from the ruling church of england and the church of rome. there is no separation of church and state. congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      gain with the thought Founding thi country was in Chritianity. BUZZER , WRONG!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLpe98iXQ5M

      So not only are you predjudice in religion, it sounds like blacks also make you uncomfortable? And you talk of uneducated people yet you have both those phobias? Breeding is wrong? anything but Jesus christianity is wrong? the whole world is worng and you sir have the right as an American to rise this nation in Jesus name to go out and slay every Muslim? Now seriously, is this candid camera? You really don’t see the prejudice in this that you want others to “believe” in? You could learn more from the Middle east than I thought. Pleae, do yourself a favor, get on those knees and pray. I feel sorry for you.

      • Artie

        Michael, people on this thread are all worried that the Muslim’s are going to gain a foothold in America and take over!! That is just paranoia!! We still have a government, not that they are worth much, but we also have our Constitution, which we need to protect at all costs. Unless, Islam is going to overthrow our government, there is nothing to worry about. As a matter of fact, they will have to follow the rule of law in America. This means, no more chopping off of hand’s and head’s, no more stoning! If that is really what your interpretation of mainstream Islam is, then I don’t know why they would want to come over here. They wouldn’t be able to practice those barbaric actions!

        I told you that I don’t stand in judgment of you! I made it a point to say that every person has a right to believe in whatever they choose. What Christian’s believe is not what Jew’s believe, yet we all live in harmony. There are muslim’s living in the states right now, but I haven’t heard of any suicide bomber’s blowing themselves up. As I mentioned, every religion has it’s radical fringe! If you choose to be an atheist or an agnostic, that is your right and your privilege. It is also only your business, and no one should force their belief’s on you! What get’s me is the people who claim to be Christian’s, but spout hatred and intolerance!

        I also mentioned that I am in agreement with you regarding 9/11! We have two things to worry about in this nation. First and foremost the economy, and then exposing the truth about 9/11 and the NWO agenda. Can we agree on that?

  • chuck b

    michael sidelines

    why don’t you liberals give jefferson a rest. he was a member of the anglican church all his life, at one time he professed to not believe in the diety of christ. yet he professed his belief in god and attended church all his days.
    The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an “American Founding Father.” But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

    Religious Affiliation
    of U.S. Founding Fathers # of
    Founding
    Fathers % of
    Founding
    Fathers
    Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
    Presbyterian 30 18.6%
    Congregationalist 27 16.8%
    Quaker 7 4.3%
    Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
    Lutheran 5 3.1%
    Catholic 3 1.9%
    Huguenot 3 1.9%
    Unitarian 3 1.9%
    Methodist 2 1.2%
    Calvinist 1 0.6%
    TOTAL 204

    get over it michael, there’s no muslims included.

    Almost all of the presidents can be characterized as Christian, at least by formal membership. Some were Unitarian or unaffiliated with a specific religious body. Some are thought to have been deists, or irreligious. No president thus far has been a Jew, a Buddhist, a Muslim, a Hindu, a Sikh or an adherent of any other specifically
    non-Christian religion.
    benjamin franklin:
    As to Jesus of Nazareth
    , my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts as to his divinity; tho’ it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and I think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble….” (Carl Van Doren. Benjamin Franklin. New York: The Viking Press, 1938, p. 777.)

    you are gathering tidbit video’s from either muslim websites or atheist sites. they are taking their liberty with using specific comments out of context. most of these people were referring to the ruling church of england or the church of rome.

    i leave you with your goat herder mohammed.

    • Michael from the sidelines

      As I am thrown to the Muslims..lol, I leave you with your Christian friends in your sinfilled heaven. I can see you now having a Pork BBQ, while Adolph Hitler comes walking up to join in your feast. Please, welcome all of same mind. it’s Gods will. sharpen those swords in God’s name. Someone find sarah palin, we need to find that witchdoctor she knows.. I know this all just been a candid experience. Surely Americans are smarter than this no? I mean, those grown men I see walking into churches really don’t believe in that hoccus poccus do they? it’s for the children and wives can learn and stay moral and for you can gather to talk about the sports during the week with the other men? aint it? A grown educated man surely must know what life is about? If your not in Church to make money through it, what’s the point going right? come on.. are we still stuck in a pagan mind state? are there real men that wear long pants still believing in pagan rituals? I am sorry, I can’t raise my sword with you guys. Maybe against, if you try to change my countries constitution, but never for. I could be for Christians no more than Muslims or Jews. I am only for Americans who use common sense. I know far and inbetween.

      • Artie

        Michael, I mentioned, way back in this thread, that I no longer attend church! It is filled with hypocrites that make a weekly appearance and then live sinful lives away from the church. I don’t need that. For myself, I can commune with God anywhere and at anytime. I don’t need to stand out in the community of people! I could care less what people think about my personal religious beliefs. That is between myself and God. If you have decided that common sense is all that you need to get through life, that is fine. But just as I am not indicting you for your beliefs, you should not be beating up on other people’s religious beliefs.

        The subject matter of this thread is about having intolerance against Islam! In my opinion, the writer is a paranoid racist! But, he is free to write what he chooses. I am just shocked at the responses coming from people who espouse Christian values, but then talk hate!! These people, obviously have no clue about what Christianity is all about. This is really such a meaningless topic to discuss anymore. I’d rather discuss 9/11 myself!!

        • Michael from the sidelines

          Well said Artie.. peace be apon you.. may your God guide your days throughout your lifetme. As for the 911, surely that cannot be discussed here..and it’s been discussed for around 9 years now without anyone American comming to trial over it. Just like JFK, they got away with another one. Later dayz brother.

          • Artie

            Speaking of JFK, you might be interested in this series on Youtube. It’s called Evidence of Revision and it is eye opening. I think that there are 6 separate chapter’s, but the first 3 are about JFK and they point the finger at LBJ. Each section is composed of 9-10, 10 minute video’s, all continual. A great watch if you want to here some interesting info on the assassination.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riHY9Ik-Uoo&feature=related

            TC, Artie

        • Jana

          Just to show you what a great “religion” this is, In Islam a man beats his wife to honor her. Sure he does.

          Sa’d Arafat: Allah honored wives by instating the punishment of beatings.

          Interviewer: Honored them with beatings? How is this possible?!

          Sa’d Arafat: The prophet Muhammad said: “Don’t beat her in the face, and do not make her ugly.” See how she is honored. If the husband beats his wife, he must not beat her in the face. Even when he beats her, he must not curse her. This is incredible! He beats her in order to discipline her.

          In addition, there must not be more than ten beatings, and he must not break her bones, injure her, break her teeth, or poke her in the eye. There is a beating etiquette. If he beats to discipline her, he must not raise his hand high. He must beat her from chest level. All these things honor the woman.

          Understand, guys? There are rules to wife-beating. We must observe the proprieties. And just so we’re clear about the “when” part:

          Sa’d Arafat: The honoring of the wife in Islam is also evident in the fact that the punishment of beating is permissible in one case only: when she refuses to sleep with him.

          Interviewer: When she refuses to sleep with him?

          Sa’d Arafat: Yes,