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Is Barack Obama The Manchurian Candidate For The Muslim Brotherhood?

February 16, 2011 by  

Is Barack Obama The Manchurian Candidate For The Muslim Brotherhood?

 “The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death.”– Maulana Inyadullah, al-Qaida leader, September 2001.

The extremists may soon hold the reins in Egypt. Islam marches forward while former President Hosni Mubarak is in hiding. Thirty years ago Iran was toppled. Then fell Afghanistan. And just last week it was Egypt, the jewel of the Nile, the Arab gateway to the world.

Never mind what former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara proclaimed about Vietnam. The real threat to freedom both in America and abroad is much more dangerous today than any domino theory manufactured by Pentagon think tanks in the 1960s. It turned out Communism was soulless. Islam has a soul; a very dark one that wants to engulf the world. It may have just swallowed Egypt.

The Muslim Brotherhood (MB) demanded and got the resignation of President Hosni Mubarak. Today the military controls power in Egypt but soon the MB may institute its own brazen rule. After all they helped force Mubarak’s full and unconditional surrender. This has created a huge vacuum in Egypt, the outcome that the MB was gunning for.

Before fleeing, Mubarak slammed Egypt’s MB as a "dangerous" and “duplicitous” movement. Egypt’s president feared MB because of its close relationship with Hamas and radical groups in Jordan, Kuwait and farther afield.

Before Mubarak’s departure, Egypt’s Director of Intelligence Omar Soliman stated that the MB is:"Neither a religious organization, nor a social organization, nor a political party, but a combination of all three."

The principal danger Soliman warned, is the group’s exploitation of religion to influence and mobilize the public. Soliman asserts that the MB has spawned, "Eleven different Islamic extremist organizations," most notably the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and the al-Gama’a al-Islamiyya.

Soliman termed the MB’s recent success in the parliamentary elections as "unfortunate," adding his view that although the group was technically illegal, existing Egyptian laws were insufficient to keep the MB in check.

What Are Obama’s Real Ambitions?
The real question is why President Barack Obama wasn’t willing to keep MB at check, to help see Mubarak’s government into a peaceful transition. Certainly history called out for this course of action from the White House.

Consider the writings of Edmund Burke, one of the fathers of Conservatism who lived in the 18th Century. Burke wrote extensively about the French Revolution and proclaimed that it was a massive social experiment doomed to fail because it presumed to start a society over from scratch.

“Good order is the foundation of all things,” Burke wrote. The terror that followed the revolution saw the execution of 40,000 French citizens.

In my lifetime something similar happened in Iran. Yet Obama doesn’t seem to have learned anything from history going so far as to ignore pleas by U.S. allies to use Mubarak to help with a peaceful transition towards democracy in Egypt.

Obama, it seems, is either ignorant of the problems posed by an Islamist Egypt or worse, he embraces them.

The MB threatens not just Egypt and the Suez but puts a noose around the most important oil producer in the world, Saudi Arabia. Could it be that for either personal or pragmatic reasons, Obama wants to see the price of oil soar? A death grip around Egypt and Saudi Arabia is a perfect prescription for $150 per barrel oil. Those prices suddenly make green energy a viable alternative.

The American Thinker believes that Obama is not like President Jimmy Carter, a deer caught in the headlights. Instead it says, Obama understands exactly what he is doing in muckraking radical Islam:

“From his notorious Cairo speech to the present, President Obama speaks, and disaster follows.

“Some commentators believe that President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton are so utterly naïve as to make themselves unable to understand what will happen in Egypt as a result of their undermining of the Mubarak regime. The question is justifiably asked: Do they truly believe that the next regime that comes to power will have the interests of the U.S. and the West at heart?

“My fear is that Obama is not naïve at all, but he instead knows only too well what he is doing, for he is eagerly promoting Islamic power in the world while diminishing the West and Israel, however much innocent blood will flow as a result. 

“Inevitably, sooner or later, the Muslim Brotherhood will take power, usher in a barbaric Islamist power in Egypt that will control the Suez Canal, and show no mercy to its own people or its perceived foes.

“So now we see what the present incumbent in the White House has wrought.”

Fact #1: If MB gains control of Egypt, it will dictate the use of the world’s most important water transits. Nearly 2 million barrels of oil per day, most of it destined for Europe, could be cut off without notice even as that continent is in the midst of its worst economic crisis in 70 years.

Fact #2: If the MB wrestles control of Egypt, that sets up Saudi Arabia as Islam’s next target. The House of Saud pumps 8 million barrels of crude per day. If they collapse, a petro-based world collapses. There is not enough oil in the world to compensate for the current petroleum production coming from Saudi Arabia. (Before you write me about the pie-in-the-sky project in the Dakotas, do a bit of research — the U.S. is currently pumping less than 5 million barrels of oil per day, or about what we produced when Truman was in office while oil production for North Dakota will take well over a decade to develop.)

Fact #3: New green technologies only work if oil prices are well above $100 per barrel. If MB rules Egypt radical Islam will set its sights on Saudi Arabia.

That would give Obama’s Green Revolution a lot of traction. In fact, the President’s view of the world as it “should be” can only happen if he instigates a price contagion upon petroleum. Only then can he sit back and say: “Green energy. Mission accomplished!”

I don’t know what is going through the President’s mind, but I do know we have a President very different from George W. Bush. Bush wanted to protect America from Arab oil shocks. Obama seems to be inviting them.

Is it out of Muslim loyalty or Green ambitions? In the end, does it even matter? What matters is that America has a President that is putting his personal goals ahead of the nation. First and foremost for this man is his re-election, with all of his grandiose ambitions that will follow.

Yours in good times and bad,
John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Jeremy Leochner

    With terrorists its difficult to determine where to draw the line of too much and too little security. A principle issue I have in this debate and I think the President is considering is the issue of foreign interference. I believe the President desires democracy to come to Egypt. Unfortunatly in terms of terrorism democracy requires the choice of the people. If a democracy or a democratic system is made by, built by, or influenced by direct or perhaps even indirect influence from others the system ultimatly does not work because the people can not and will not accept it as representing them rather than others. Unfortunalty if the people are scared, angered or inflammed by extremism it runs the risk of allowing extremism into power by the choice of the people against their better instincts. Yet as I said a system provided by or made by another with anothers influence presents an equally grim picture. All in all I personally feel we must do everything in our power to support a new democratic system however we must allow the Egyptian people to decide for themselves what they want or we cannot call ourselves a democracy or a republic. Personally I believe the majority of Egyptians and Muslims are good people who dont fall victim to extremism and if the Muslim Brotherhood really is the violent extremist group I’ve heard it to be I think the majority of the people wont be tempted to support them if given hope, the truth, and support.

    • karolyn

      I don’t know why, but everything I’ve been hearing about the MB is that they are NOT extremist or violent and say they do not want to make Egypt an Islamic state. Every member I have heard interviewed has been very articulate (obviously English or American-educated) in saying that they are for freedom, including of religion. I guess it depends on who you listen to, but there are two extremely opposite ivews of this organization. Of course, they would have ties to other Islamic groups, why wouldn’t they? That does not mean that they operate the same way. In fact, they have not, have they? As an organization formed in the 40s that has not stood out as extremists or terrorists, how can one say they are?

      • 2WarAbnVet

        In 2007 the Muslim Brotherhood stated the following U.S. goals

        “The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions,”

        They sound like a “moderate” outfit to me.

        • JC

          The chances of this turning into a shooting war between a 7th century religious dogma and 21st century sovereignty and freedom are pretty damned good. I don’t mean the so called war on terror either. I mean the fight for survival which is likely to occur right here on American soil.
          If the Globalists and their Meat Puppet Kenyan get their way…

          • Bob from Calif.

            According to Webster Tarpley, the Muslim Brotherhood was established by British Intelligence early last century. What role they are playing is still to be seen. Kissinger who is in bed with the New World Order, said that” this is just the first act of the play”. Something bigger is going on here. We need to figure out what all of the pieces on the board are doing. The New World Order believes that they will create order out of chaos. Its possible that they are just getting their pieces placed where they want them on the board.

          • denniso

            Do you mean a shooting war between a 7th century dogma and a 1st century dogma? Isn’t our country dominated by the 1st century dogma?

            John Meyers should be ashamed of even the title of his article…linking Obama to a radical Muslim movement that wants to take over the world is just plain stupid,and plays into the foggy minds of the conspiracy theorists. And, if Obama wanted to destroy the oil industry for hte sake of ‘green energy’,he would certainly not be looking at getting reelected in 2012. If oil doubled in price the economy would be crippled overnight and his election chances would be over. Come on Meyers,do some thinking and quit baiting the wackos w/ such baloney.

          • eddie47d

            …and if the House of Saud falls the new owners will have to make money to survive and that means to sell oil. We need to get ahead of the game or get out.

          • JC

            denniso says:
            February 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm
            Do you mean a shooting war between a 7th century dogma and a 1st century dogma? Isn’t our country dominated by the 1st century dogma?

            I don’t see churches or synogogues advocating the death of those who won’t convert to their way of thinking. I don’t see them relegating women to the status of “goat”.
            Obviously you are working towards the demise of America and freedom.

            Get your head out of your ass Denniso.

          • denniso

            Such a well thought out and sweet comment,thanks for your response.
            I guess you need to be reminded that Christians have shot and killed medical doctors? I wonder if you have forgotten that there are Christian men who believe they have the right to ‘marry’ underage girls? That means rape under our secular laws. These ‘Christians’ are trying to force their beliefs on society w/ lethal force and upon little girls w/ force and coersion. Their beliefs are founded on 1st century and older dogma,living in a 21st century society.

        • Maria

          Asalam_O_Aleykum, LOL…nice, i guess most of you havnt read the rules huh? ^_^ Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

          Seriously, you people should stop discriminating against Muslims, you talk crap about Islam yet if you were to be asked how much you know about Islam you’d just repeat the (Jewish controlled USA)media’s word. And if asked “Have you read the whole bible”, most people would say no…^_^ well i guess these comments show a lot about Christianity…oops did i actually say that =]…hahaha seriously people grow up, and dont judge others before getting the facts right, and facts isnt what the media says, or what a group of people do, its the Quran not what others say, most of you talk crap about it yet i bet you have know idea whats writen in it ^_^…Allah Hafiz

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        karolyn… You must be very nieve or young!

        • karolyn

          I don’t consider myself “nieve” and am 64 years old. I choose to spread good news, rather than contribute to hate and negativity. And before you start tearing that apart, I’m not stupid! I look at what’s going on around me; I have eyes to see. However, I choose to dwell more on the good than the bad. That’s the only way to defeat negativity and hate and make this a better world. Read “Power vs. Force” by David R. Hawkins, MD. It’s a great day to be alive. The sky is blue; the sun is shining; and the temp here will be 70 today!!!

          • CHIMPIMP

            You probably aren’t naive BUT you are playing ostrich. You are only hearing what you want to hear. It would be the same as if you were diagnosed with colon cancer in its early stages BUT you didn’t want to hear that, so you went from doctor to doctor until you finally heard what you wanted to hear. Then your colon cancer passed the point of no return and you died when it could have been removed in its early stages and you would have had a complete recovery. But you didn’t want to do that because you didn’t want to be a cancer hater and only wanted to see the good in everything.

          • http://yahoo richard

            INSERTING YOUR HEAD IN YOUR A– DOESN’T MAKE THE PROBLEM GO AWAY

          • S.C.Murf

            Yep the sky is blue and in a short period of time the muslim nation will cut off your oil supply. Try looking at the brighter side of that, there is none.

            up the hill
            airborne

          • Kinetic1

            Hang in there karolyn. Someone has to show that there can be more to life than hatred and fear.

            And if I may, SCMurf, maybe that threat will encourage us to find alternatives to oil. Sometimes people need a kick in the butt before they will make any progress.

          • JC

            karolyn says:
            February 16, 2011 at 9:52 am
            I don’t consider myself “nieve” and am 64 years old. I choose to spread good news, rather than contribute to hate and negativity. And before you start tearing that apart, I’m not stupid! I look at what’s going on around me; I have eyes to see. However, I choose to dwell more on the good than the bad. That’s the only way to defeat negativity and hate and make this a better world. Read “Power vs. Force” by David R. Hawkins, MD. It’s a great day to be alive. The sky is blue; the sun is shining; and the temp here will be 70 today!!!

            Glad to hear the weather is going to be good. I’m sure there were some very nice weather days at Dachua as well.
            And it’s fine to dwell on the good more than the bad…but not to the point of the imagined over the real. One does not have to be naieve to miss what’s going on…
            One merely has to be unable to see it. Many of us are (knowingly or unknowingly) able to shut out that which we don’t want to see or that which scares the hell out of us.

            If that is your situation, fine. But there is no point, none, in trying to convince those of us with the knowledge of the situation and fortitude to face it head on…that all is well.
            It isn’t.

          • Vigilant

            Kinetic,

            Life’s a bitch and that doesn’t change whether your an optimist or a pessimist. A person needs be neither full of fear and hatred, nor optimistic to recognize reality head on.

          • http://Yahoo Leonard W. Giddens Jr.

            What? The sound of a person that is willing to bet his life. I am glad you are in the manority.

          • Dan Burke

            Pessimist: People are too stupid to wake up to the threat = we are all doomed. Death and misery to any able to see the truth. Just make the best of what time I have.

            Optimist: If the MB is waging war against the US, Israel, and religious freedom, perhaps them getting this far will excite them so much that they will reveal themselves and the people of the world will wake up to the danger and actually put forth a resistance while we still can. There is hope for freedom. It may cost blood, but hope is there.

            Note, in this scenario, the pessimist in this scenario is the person who “sticks their head in the sand” denying that there is possibility of hope. Just ignoring a problem does not by default define the optimist. The optimist sees hope. If you are an optimist, then you should be able to face the facts and still come out saying there is light, even if it is at the end of the tunnel. And by so saying, if you put forth the effort, that light can become reality. That is an optimist as I understand it. When the rest of us see a dark tunnel with no light, they can see the light all around us.

            Now it is possible that the Muslim Brotherhood is peaceful, etc.. Unfortunately, as peaceful as the revolution in Egypt has appeared, the pessimist in me says that history shows good reason to be wary, very wary.

            Ironic that as the world seems to be “going to hell in a hand basket,” the more motivated I feel to participate and stand up for God, freedom, and peace. I am no true optimist. I could be wrong about that, but I have trouble seeing the Light.

            Is there a place for people who only see the positive and tells us to ignore the negative? YES!!! It is far too easy to focus on the negative, and if we focus on the negative then the negative is what we will get in our life. If you focus on the positive, then you will get positive. Personally, I would gladly be surrounded by people who see only the positive, as long as we are not ignorant of the real world and are founded on truth. For I see it as positive bliss that leads to tyranny. For what is progressivism but a view that you can change a man into perfection using force and manipulation. Is this not the ultimate in positive dreams? To believe man can replace God and create that which we have never accomplished as mortals? To believe that using corruption will not result in corruption?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey Karolyn, I agree with you. It doesnt matter how corrupt the world is, I dont have to be. I dont care how corrupt our government is, I dont have to follow them. I do what I can do, show love and kindness to others, and do what I can do to help others live’s be better, and go about my life. I dont fear any man or government. They make think they are in control, but they arent. God is in control of it all, and though at times, a lot of times anymore, we all question as to why this happens and why that happens, but there is a reason and it isnt all about “me”, as so many people think. I enjoy life, I laugh, I love, and I have fun. And no one is going to take that away. They cannot take that away, unless I let them. Even the prophet Paul, when in prison, astonished those around him as they heard him singing in joyous praise. This world and all in it are fading and perishing, that is a fact. We all will die and leave it one day, both good and bad. But the word of God will live forever. That is why I can smile, live and love, and enjoy life. Without it , one has nothing.

          • karolyn

            Wow! You guys are all over the place and don’t get IT at all! I know you never will, more’s the pity; but, hey, we live in America and can believe ANYTHING we want. Yes, I have always been an optimist; and despite having lived what I will call an “interesting and varied” life filled at times with danger, fear, and sorrow on the “bad” side, everything has always worked out; and here I am. Why would I not take that world view? Everything always works out. I have a universal view of everything that in essence says that que sera sera. All the moaning, bitching and complaining in the world is only going towards making things worse. I DO see what’s going on in the world and understand and even agree with some of what all the pessimists say; but I refuse to give in to fear. No matter what happens, I am fine. Should I die, that’s wonderful because I will be freed from this cumberson body. My wish is that more people could feel as I do. I knew a guy whose favorite saying was “How important is it?” And when you think about anything in proper perspective, nothing is important enough to interfere with my feeling good and wishing that for anyone I come into contact with.

          • karolyn

            Hey, Beberoni, I remember having had this conversation not too long ago with you! I remember you mentioning Paul, and I remember all the people who could not get the concept.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – What I’ve been trying to say is that when you say you refuse to give in to fear, you imply that the fear is there, but you are in denial of it, or are repressing it.

            You are into natural healing, so you must know that repressed emotion lurks within us and, eventually, manifests physically. To deny a repressed emotion, you still polarize with it, giving it energy. You mentally create that which is “I” and “not I”. What we resist, sooner or later, magnifies.

            To really heal of any condition, we look for the cause, most often repressed emotion. Rather than resisting it, we allow it, we experience the pain and walk through it, and come out the other side.
            There is, then, no longer a polarization, because we realize that ALL things are included within the I, as God has no opposite. We can be free to live each moment as we choose, even while observing the play of duality existence, seeing clearly, but staying in peace.

            The world is the projected manifestation of human inner darkness and sense of separation, that is, our own pain. We heal it, also, by shining light on it and understanding our part in its creation. If we reject it as “not I”, it will persist. Healing comes through a return to wholeness, to the center point, for opposites are always the same, only differing in degree.

        • Mrrobinson

          nieve means snow in Spanish.

          • CHIMPIMP

            Cool!

          • Vigilant

            That’s one reason the word is properly spelled “naive.” Has nothing to do with snow.

          • http://personalliberty.com frank

            Karolyn so sad . 64 years old and you don’t have a clue!..

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Frank – Karolyn and I have disagreed much on many posts, but I will put her knowledge and wisdom far, far above your hateful attacks on her. Just because she has a good outlook, doesnt mean she is naive. I feel the same way, and I am fully aware of the evil in the world and the mess it is in, and the mess of our government. Doesnt mean we still cant take the time to enjoy the blessings we have now, does it? If you feel that way, Id say your pretty naive to the truth.

          • Bruce D.

            Karolyn has a liberal progressive outlook which she tries to advance with optimism and she needs plenty of it. The only way you can promote that kind of ideology is to ignore history and ignore facts. To make the kind of quote she did about the Muslim Brotherhood is just more evidence she does both.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Beberoni–I am inclined to agree with your post.

        • s c

          Robin, it’s a waste of time trying to figure out what’s is so wrong with progressives. When it comes to their incredibly childish outlook on the M B, I’m tempted to conclude that progressives take a blood oath, and for the rest of their lives worship stupidity and hate common sense.
          I recommend that Bob Livingston include as part of his ‘books to read’ list a small work called Icon of Evil [Dalin and Rothmann, Random House, '08]. The first 100 pages will so infuriate progressives that they’ll probably have to be medicated. The M B can trace its roots back to 1928 and a spectacular wacko named Haj Amin al-Husseini.
          If Obama could read, I’d recommend it to him. If K and her peers are able to read on their own, they would increase their collective IQs a great deal in one day by reading that book. Trying to educate progressives is worse than trying to whiz up a redwood, but someone has to try.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            S C as a progressive I can assure you I never took any blood oath. Also I assure you I am willing to listen to rationale arguments and am willing to change my views and beliefs if I feel evidence requires it. On matters of the Muslim Brotherhood I am unsure. I have heard some claim with certainty that they are terrorists and extremists. Yet I have heard others proclaim just as strongly that they are not. I dont know which to believe since I am no expert on Islam or Islamic groups. All I want is to try and not call someone a terrorist who isnt a terrorist or call someone innocent when they are not. Both are incorrect and both do more harm than good.

          • Vigilant

            Jeremy, you’ve proven the point. You have ignored an earlier posting by 2WarAbnVet that quotes directly from the goals of the MB and you persist in saying you haven’t made up your mind.

            Tell me, just what DOES it take to convince a progressive? And for that matter, why do you listen to what the media says and not do some research for yourself on the history and aims of the MB, from the horse’s mouth, so to speak? There are numerous internet sources.

          • http://Yahoo Leonard W. Giddens Jr.

            It is clear to me religion is a dangerous thing.People no longer think for themselves, they rely on a book or a person to think for them. A book that’s filled with riddles that no person on this earth has any idea what the answers are. Every group think they have the answers and think they are the chosen people. More people are killed every day, by or because of this religion than any other crimes comitted in the entire world. How can anybody beleave in something that causes the amount of death and destruction as this con does?

          • home boy

            leonard, you hit a home run. the governments of the world are going to shut down and destroy all religion thru the U.N. however this is mention in the bible at revelation 17 and 18. god is going to put it into their minds to do this rev17;17. so the so called book you refer to does somthing man doesn’t do and that is it tells the truth. read it and you will learn a thing or two

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Note to Jeremy – Please go to your local Muslim Brotherhood, and inform them that Jesus Christ is your Lord and Saviour, and see how moderate they are. You just might find out something about them.

          • Void1972

            Interesting how God is failing in our current world. What is behind the lack of faith?
            Read the following and research for yourself.

            The Conspiracy Is Against God; Ask God What to Do by Henry Makow, PhD (Jan.4, 2004)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Void: God is not failing in our current world. The world is telling Him He is not needed, so He, not being a forceful God, is backing off, and slowing removing His hand from the United States, whom He has blessed all these years and given us so much more than the rest of the world, being that we held Him in high esteem here.
            But as we turn away from Him, be assured He will turn away from us also, and give us the desires of our hearts. And when we get perverted and decadent enough, just like the empires before us,the Babylonian Empire, the Greek Empire, The Medo Persian Empire and the Roman Empire, we will be handed over to a lesser enemy. If you dont learn from History, your doomed to repeat it. Evidently, we didnt learn.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Right Beberoni, we’ve been telling God to get out of everything for years, now he has__lefties can’t see it, or they’re afraid we’re right, and act as if it isn’t happening!?

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Vigilant I suppose your correct. I guess I just want to listen to everyside first. On the matter of progressives I dont know. As a person I know there are arguments that could convince me of certain ideas or theories. However I dont know how being a progressive effects my capacity to listen to rational arguments. As such I can not comment on other progressives. If you present me with a good evidence based argument I will listen, try to present my side if I disagree and if in the end your argument is convincing I will acknowledge it. Being a progressive dosen’t factor into it.

          • Bruce D.

            Jeremy, a person’s ideology always factors into the way in which he views data. Progressives push for big government and redistribution of money from those who have it also from people who do not have it (example Cap and Trade). Conservatives push for a smaller limited government that has less say in your life and less focus on your paycheck. Both sides will support the arguments that further their beliefs.

          • Jeremy Leochner

            Your right Bruce however at the end of the day if a convincing argument is given or one you agree with or cant disprove you must admit that regardless of your own views. If you dont know you dont know. The argument I posted against seemed to suggest that ones political views affects their ability to admit when their wrong or to accept evidence that they cannot contradict. While I admit ones views can make one subjective in and of itself they dont determine a persons capacity to know right from wrong or truth from untruth if presented with concrete physical evidence. If someone presents a rational argument or says something I agree with and I dont say anything or I dont admit when im wrong, or if I dont listen to evidence I cant contradict or provide any argument against it, its not because im a prgressive. Its because im either stubborn, delusional, ignorant, arrogant, naieve, some combination of them or maybe I just do not know the full story. Either im willing to admit when im wrong, acknowledge when I have nothing to counter it, agree to disagree or simply try to not judge other people based solely on what I think of them or their argument, or I am not willing to do any. My personality, attitude, perhaps age and experience, mental health and emotional stability factor into such matters. But my political ideology does not.

          • Bruce D.

            I am not going to disagree with anything you said. There are also those who choose not to look.

          • Granny Mae

            Might be a good idea for those unsure of the intentions of M B to do some of your own research so you will know for sure. Look them up on the internet and in the library and check it out for yourself. If you can’t do that much then you must accept the opinion of anyone else and their opinion , good or bad is their opinion and not in my opinion, worth repeating as my own. I must know for myself ! If a person is too lazy to research for themselves then what they say about any matter is not worth noting ! s c. I agree with you !

          • http://?? Joe H.

            GrannyMae,
            Type into you search engine january imprimus? and check out the credentials of the man giving the speech!!! That will tell you the aim of the Muslims!!

          • Granny Mae

            Joe H,

            I did just that and didn’t get any speach or a man ! I must be doing something wrong ! sorry.

      • Ken

        Yeah Karolyn, the MB are just Shriners. You know, building hospitals for crippled children.

        • JC

          You mean when they’re not kidnapping Infidels and cutting their head’s off on Al Jazeera TV. Other than that, just a bunch of fun loving guys.

          • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

            Hey, since we’re talking about origins of organizations that most Americans know nothing about…

            …did you all know that the Tea Party was founded by a family (the Koch’s) who helped form Communism…?

            Yes, folks, you read that right.

            Your tea-bagging buddies were in bed with Stalin and his filthy communist comrades.

            So, yeah…let that sink in for a moment…and then apply it to Sarah (God Only Knows Who’s Nailin’) Palin, and Michele Bachmann (Turner Over’n’Driver)…yes, your supposed saviors/air-heads.

            hahahaha…yeah…you guys are *oh so wise* to US Alinsky-ites…

            *eyeroll*

            Oh, the irony is delicious, isn’t it…?

            You right-wing pin-heads are the actual Commie-backers!!! Well done, folks.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Dogma, your hate has consumed you. So sad. Mark one up for satan.

          • Vigilant

            Beberoni, he’s also “logic-free” but can’t see it.

            (1) As a communist, Dogma-Laden should celebrate the Tea Party but doesn’t.

            (2) As a person challenged by pristine logic, he thinks the positions espoused by the Tea Party are pro-communist, i.e., restoring the Constitution and protecting the rights (and differences) of the individual.

            Go figure.

          • Vigilant

            …although there may be some hope for him, if he continues to use Bill O’Reilly’s pet word, “pinhead.”

          • Bruce D.

            Dogma-Free, even your name is pure irony. It should be Full of Dogma. No kidding either. To say the Tea Party is pro Communist shows you do not have any grip on reality whatsoever.

          • JC

            Dogma Fed = Straight Up Liar.
            Keep waving your Hopey changey Button.

        • eddie47d

          Ken: The KKK now want to put their name on Missouri license plates. Considering their devious past and sometimes in the present should that be allowed? I doubt if all KKK members are evil or that all Muslim Brotherhood members are evil. Should both groups take a loyalty oath? Should certain citizens who belong to such a group be excluded from voting or by government?

          • Vigilant

            “Considering their devious past and sometimes in the present should that be allowed?”

            Sorry, I thought you were talking about the Democrats.

          • Granny Mae

            eddie47d,

            I disagree. Would you join a group without knowing what they thought or believed and without agreeing with all of it? I sure wouldn’t. Everyone knows what the KKK stands for and people that align themselves with that group can be assumed to agree with all they stand for ! I would not give any member of the KKK a free pass as to being a good boy! You have to take part in their activities and their activities speak for themselves ! It is a feel good mentality to think that every body is good no matter what group they align themselves with but in reality it is a lie ! KKK is KKK. MB is MB. Don’t loose your head over some feel good desired belief !

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Let me tell you something eddie, so pay attention please. I am what they call a white anglo saxon protestant, the type the Klan wants to be made up of. They consider this to be better than all people, and would like nothing more than to exterminate all that arent like them. I would never join any group, that considers themselves to be supreme over others, and especially those who resort to violence to do it. Yes, to join any group which centers only on themselves and outcasts all others, is evil in itself, so your assertation that they are all evil is dead on correct. That they would hate someone because of the color of their skin, is straight from the bowels of satan himself. So yes, as the Muslim Brotherhood hates all who dont think like they do, the Klan hates all that dont look like they do. Both evil, from satan himself.

        • Steve

          Please, pull your head out of your ass. The mistake will be your’s if you believe that the muslims are peacefull people. Me, I would not have a problem if law’s were made to not let muslims on planes, trains,cars and never let a muslim in the United States for any reason. The muslims are trying to take over the world. Wake the F$ck up. We can’t get anyone to do their job in America and the world is laughing at us. Try Vetting the muslim in the white house. Let’s see, so far he has shown one piece of paper that is his certificate of birth, not a birth certificate. The certificate of birth has a smugged out numbers in the top right hand corner, no state seal, no physician signature, different format than the 1961 birth certificate’s of 1961 Hawaii’s Hospitals and were lazor cut, which no lazor cuts were made in 1961. If I did not do my job, I would be fired the day I did not do my job, but congress, house of represenitives, senate can not only not do nothing, then they get to retire on 15,000 a month with a different health plan than yours. All I can say is keep sitting on your hands, soon your head will be cut off. Idiots.

          • Granny Mae

            Steve,

            Amen !

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            When the muslims allow me to walk down the streets of Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Somalia and places like that, reading my Bible and preaching about Jesus Christ freely, then I just might consider them a peaceful people. But since they would willingly and knowingly take me aside and cut my head off for it, I have to think that gee, these guys are a very peaceful bunch. But what do I know, I just live in the truth.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Sorry, that should read, “these guys are not a peaceful bunch”.

      • Steve

        Karoyln,

        Read’The Looming Tower” by Lawrence Wright. You will see how the Muslim Brotherhood started and what its mission is. Educate yourself on these matters before you make such statements. Go to the Muslim Brotherhood web site and see what their stated mission is. Wake up woman!

        • WayneT

          People with Karolyn’s mentality will never wake up. I don’t care how rational a post is, Karolyn will argue against it. I know that we need to fire Nobama and a lot of his cohorts in 2012 so we can protect folks like Carolyn. I see very clearly what Nobama is doing to this country, and I sure as hell don’t like it.

          • Another Voice

            It’s people like Karolyn who just might save us from total collapse someday. I hope that she and her like-minded Americans keep voting!

          • Theron Leland

            Well folks as a Korean vet. I know one thing. If you see a man coming at you with a gun and starts to aim it at you, you don’t ask him what his intentions are, you kill him before he kills you, any other action is suicide. The time to argue what his intentions were is afterward or would you rather see your loved ones laying on the ground lifeless and bloody. The time to stop a killer is before he kills and if you misunderstood his actions , tough, he should not have been there in the first place. So to all Muslims, be sure that when you are around me you don’ give the the wrong indications and I’ll do the same. That brings up one more thing, you can’t protect anyone without the means.

          • Vigilant

            Another Voice says:

            “It’s people like Karolyn who just might save us from total collapse someday. I hope that she and her like-minded Americans keep voting!”

            It has been like-minded Americans who have voted to put this country on the road to Perdition already.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Theron, I believe there is coming a day, when these muslim terrorists are going to blow up one thing to many, or just plain get too proud of themselves, and its going to end up being open season on them in the streets of America, and a lot of innocent people are going to get hurt. That is why these middle eastern people need to get their crap together, and start giving up these dangerous guys now, or it is going to come back and slap them all in the face. Because I like you, will not wait until the gun is on me, I am looking for it before it gets pulled, and Im just being self defensive. Soon, many are going to go on the offense, because the American people are getting sick of the government and their political correctness, letting these anti -American’s run free and set up their little terror huts. It is going to come back and haunt them in a big way.

          • Steve

            “Yes”, she says, “I just want to see the bright side of things”. Then that means you don’t see things as they really are. You just see what you want to see. That’s seems to be the problem with much of the country that many people have their own slant on the truth. We can slant the truth for many different reasons but if you do it then at least learn to see that you have a bias and either get over it or shut up about your bias worthless opinions. If you are on food stamps you are biased. If you are unemployed you are biased. If you are black you are biased, probably. If you are stupid you are biased. The rest of us republicans. Oh and there are some corrupt biased republicans but hopefully they will get voted out next time. KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. But your bias will enslave you.

          • Bruce D.

            I do not think Karolyn sees the “bright” side of things at all. She sees the leftest side and what will promote that agenda. She tries to qualify it as the bright side of things to cover up the inaccuracies in her facts, logic, and ideology.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        K, MB, Has ties to Al Qaeda an other terrorists groups.

        • Jovianus

          Actually Angel…there is an undeclared war between the MB, Al Qaeda and Hamas. Mutual hate between any and all three. A threesome so to speak.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jovianus, They are ALL in bed together in the MB, that includes the American leftists!
            Such as Code Pink, William Ayers & his wife, Soros has also been found to have ties___These people’s full intention is on the dismantling & destruction of America!
            _ it’s your choice to believe or not to believe. Question is, is your truth based on your leftist ties or being a paid leftist blogger to rile the Conservative sheep, or did you actually do the research and found the truth yourself?

            Below is one of many linked sources, you can start here.
            http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=260577

          • Jovianus

            Angel…in my opinion, you’re a half step over the threshold to mental instability and paranoia. And in stride for the other half step …

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And yet, you need to add, that to them, we are their enemy, and their stance is, the enemy of my enemy, is my friend, and they will band together to topple us, then resume their in-fighting. They have done it for a couple thousand years now.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            joviaus, Ya have no other facts, and rather than ignore my post, you attack__GFY!!!

          • Jovianus

            Angel….if you’re using facts, the moon really is made of cheese.

          • eddie47d

            The CIA is also in bed with al Qaeda and makes deals with Egyptian and Israeli torturers. So who is really the bad guys Angel?

          • Eric Bischoff

            Angel is either out of her mind and clueless or she is a plant that serves no purpose than to dispell lies and distortions. I have never met so many blocked and close minded people.

          • Bruce D.

            I agree with your post Angel. They are all instep with each other to advance their own power. But in the end with be at each others throats.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Jo Eric and Eddie__erics post____”I have never met so many blocked and close minded people.”

            Reply___Man o man, Neither have I___But I just posted back to three of them!__You Ladies have a Great Night!!!!___LMAO

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            C’mon, Jo_Use your head, all of Mideast terroists groups want the same thing, to dismantle western culture aka The United States.__It’s not above themselves, to work with a known enemy to produce and end game__Think a little!!!!

          • Michael J.

            Jovianus,
            No one has to guess as to what the agenda of The Muslim Brotherhood might be, merely go to their website and read their own words and watch their videos and observe the words eminating from their own mouths. Once you’ve done this, then come back here and deny they seek an Islamic Caliphate, “Death to Isreal” and “Death to America”.

            BTW, does your posting handle translate too Happy-Butte?

          • JC

            Angel, jovianus is correct about the infighting between the various Muslim groups and sects…what he fails to mention though is that when dealing with “The Infidel” they are very much united.
            As far as WE are concerned,they are one and the same.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Eric Bischoff is the most biased and closed minded person I have ever heard in my life, and he accuses others of this. Amazing. Typical liberal.

      • Dr. smith

        ok Karen, folks like you are why we have the ‘chosen one’. naive like chamberlin with Hitler. go shopping or bake a cake but don’t think too hard on this, your dangerous and like so many others, your going to get us all killed.

        • Michael J.

          Warning, Warning Will Robinson, Dr. Smith has hit the proverbial nail on the Head.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        First and foremost Karylyn, when dealing with the Islamic Muslim religion, you must understand, that its very tenants, are that anyone that dares think differently than them, is an infidel and deserving only of death. Their true means, is to eliminate all Christians, Jews, Catholics, Buddhists, Mormons, and any other religion besides their false religion, which is void of Jesus Christ. If you dont have the son, Jesus Christ, you dont have the Father. Their leader Mohammed is dead and buried in the ground where worms ate his body. Jesus Christ is alive and well, and will be always. That is the difference. And while Christians around the world pray that the light may come into their darkness and give them light to see the truth, and to feel love, their false beliefs say kill anyone who is different than you, even if you have to kill yourself to do it. It is not moderate what so ever. They will not stop until we are all dead, or they die trying to kill and exterminate us. The sooner you realize that, and the sooner our supposed leaders realize that, the sooner we can make them understand, that their way is not an option.

        • S.C.Murf

          The bible talks of the muslims coming to power and the evil for which they stand

        • Ruby

          Even the moderate, westernized Muslims can’t get away from that.

          Any Christian (any…Catholic, Evangelical, Mormon or otherwise) knows what’s really happening in the middle east. The stage is being set for the 2nd coming (as it’s referred to among Evangelical circles), and the FINAL war…more commonly referred to as the battle of Armagheddon (I may have mis-spelled this). It won’t happen for a few more years (more prophesies still to be fulfilled). Well…it may happen tomorrow.

          Take a map out and look how Israel is being surrounded.

          • Chris

            Hey, I’m Jewish; I’m still waiting for the first coming.

          • karolyn

            According to the Bible, it can’t happen until the Word has been brought to all peoples in all corners of the earth. That may never happen, especially when you consider the fact that there are still lost tribes being found in the Amazon never mind the North Koreans.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Chris. Maybe you didnt read the old testament good enough. Its all in there, and it all came to pass. Just like the other millions, you missed it. How I dont know, its pretty darn clear, you know, the “He will come riding on a Colt”, and “He will come from the stump of Jesse”. And “He will tear down the temple and rebuild it in 3 days”, which was his body which rose 3 days later. The whole old testament tells about His coming, but you pictured Him coming to wipe out the Romans in vengeance and take over the world, in mans image, and when it didnt happen like that, you rejected Him. And you wonder why even to this day, that the Jewish people are being persecuted, as God allows this as their punishment for their disobediance, as He did all through the old testament. You need to hook up with some Messianic Jews, they will get you on the right path. Good luck.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            karolyn,
            Hate to burst your bubble, lady, but the bible HAS been brought to N. Korea!! People have been secreting them into the country for years!! Do a little more research!

        • Kinetic1

          Beberoni,
          These words from a religion that executed men who dared to study nature. A church that regularly tortured and killed those who would not accept Christ. The church that invaded the Middle East to drive out those who were not believers. Even in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan we have seen warriors, from foot soldiers to officers, even a President who saw their fight as a crusade against Islam, and you want to paint Muslims as the only problem?

          The Qur’an is not the only religious text to call for the death of non-believers. Take a look in the Bible, say Deuteronomy 13:6-10
          “If thy brother…. entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods… thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.”
          Maybe you prefer 2 Chronicles 15:13
          “Whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.”
          We’re talking a book that chronicles mass execution and the taking of lands (Numbers 21:34-35). Is this so different from the Qur’an? And listen to how you justify your hatred.
          “If you dont have the son, Jesus Christ, you dont have the Father. Their leader Mohammed is dead and buried in the ground where worms ate his body. Jesus Christ is alive and well, and will be always.”
          So Mohammed’s soul died with him? His spirit did not live on? Could it be anymore clear that, in your religion those who fail to accept your faith as their own are doomed? How can you be so certain of your superiority over the Muslims when you so clearly view non-Christian as lesser beings, cursed by your God.

          • Theron Leland

            I do know one thing and with me it is an absolute, if anyone harms my wife,or children, they better give their soul to God because their a___ belongs to me, you’ve heard of knee capping, well that is a start, and then we go on from there.

          • Vigilant

            Uh, Kinetic, pardon me, but you’re talking about things that happened hundreds or thousands of years ago. Am I to be called racist because my ancestors owned slaves?

            Show me ONE Christian who still blieves in the Old Testament remedies in a literal sense (with the exception of that fanatic Ted Welland).

            A great many Muslims STILL believe in carrying out the pogroms and revenges of the Koran.

            Let’s please be intellectually honest and recognize the difference.

          • Vigilant

            Kinetic,

            May I ask where you got the quote:

            “If you don’t have the son, Jesus Christ, you don’t have the Father. Their leader Mohammed is dead and buried in the ground where worms ate his body. Jesus Christ is alive and well, and will be always.”

            I think Mohammed was born over 500 years after Christ’s crucifixion. Is that quote from the Bible?

          • Proud to be a Christian

            We can tell you are not a Believer. Number 1, the Old Testament continuing thru the New Testament to the middle of Acts, is for Jew only and the second coming to set up the Kingdom on Earth.Period paragraph. The Jews have to go thru the Tribulation before the second coming. Believers who believe 2 Corinthians Vs 15, one thru four will be “caught up” in the clouds before the One World Goverment etc., happens. (Referred to as the rapture) That is it case rest. Yes the bible does say what you quoted and yes the jew was to perform those things even down to killing their own children if they were disobidient because God knew if they married the non=circumsized (infidel) that they would be tempted back to idolitry which happened. Yes, the inquisition was a sad sad part of history but remember again, that was brought about by the Catholics which are NOT believers and are fake Chrtistians with their pope etc., You have to study to know the truth and the truth will set you free. Yes we are being setup for the end times with One World Currency, One World Government and One World Religion and yes the muslims are going to play a big big part against Iarael but if you are left behind, watch who comes out ahead, and believe me it will not be the muslims but tiny Israel.

          • Jovianus

            So Proud to be a Chrsitian…you’re saying that you can pick and choose what parts of the Bible are true and to be followed and what parts are false and to be ignored? Is that also applying to writings from Paul, Augustine, John etc ?

            Is there a list of what parts are acceptable and what I should be wary of when reading the Bible?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            First of all, God is the one who will deliver all into death. And God over and over in the old testament, had His warriors go in and wipe people out, not Christians. You see, there were no Christians, before Christ came, so get that straight. Then, there was this period, called the Dark Ages, where people who purported themselves as Christians, did terrible terrible things that you are probably referring to, and there were totally wrong to do what they did. And see, the church went through a reformation, where it realized these folks were all wrong, and they turned away from this basically, satanic behavior. Now the muslims, they have never reformed or changed since day one. They kill and kill and kill, and kill each other all the time, the equivalency of me killing a Baptist because I go to a Missionary church, or a Methodist killing a Presbyterian. Its insane, and straight from the bowels of hell. And if you dont know why Christianity is better, then your in a bad way. Only by having Jesus Christ in your life, do you have life. This life on earth is 1 inch on a measureing tape that never ends, and after you spend that 1 inch space here on earth, you spend the rest of that time somewhere else, in Heaven or in Hell. Only by the name of Jesus are you saved. Muslims dont believe in Jesus, so figure it out. And one day, we will all bow before Him, and give account of ourselves to Him. As for myself, I have no qualms about speaking the truth, and I also pray daily for the Muslims around the world to have what I have, a relationship with Jesus Christ, and the promise of eternal life. Now, seriously, I want you to seriously answer this, how many Muslims do you think pray for all the Christians in the world to have eternal life? I will tell you, without a doubt, it is none. They seek our destruction, and if your from the United States, even though your not a Christian, your an infidel like me, and deserve nothing but death also, in their eyes. Thats is the just the truth of the matter, so you can feel all good backing them up, until they come and cut your throat, and you can attack me and all Christians who wish nothing but God’s blessings upon you, and I just hope one day you can see the light as to what you are doing. God bless.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Vigilant: Read John 5: 19-23. This is for the Father-Son part. The other part is common knowledge, they guy is in the grave.

        • Kinetic1

          Vigilant,
          The quote was taken from Beberoni’s post, to which I was responding. Sorry if you missed that connection. As to history, yes it was a long time ago and most Christians do not adhere to the laws of the ld testament, unless it suits them. What you have done in your effort to highlight the difference between Christianity and Islam is point out the hypocrisy of many in the Christian faith. Accepting gays is wrong! See, it’s all right there in the old testament. We don’t follow the old rules about killing non-believers! That’s in the OLD testament. To assume that all Muslims, or even the majority of Muslims follow the Qur’an literally is as naive as suggesting that all Christians agree on the word of the Bible. Shoot, just look at “Proud to be” who believes Catholics are practicing a false religion!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            In response to the Catholic part, many of my Christian friends, were former 20 year plus Catholics, and will tell you with more knowledge of it than I have, that they are the biggest soul catchers out there, because of their practicing the Roman Catholic Doctrine, instead of the Doctrine of Jesus Christ. I know they practice a lot of tradition, and God says, “Your traditions make me want to vomit” I know a lot of Catholic people who are kind and nice people, and they know Jesus Christ as their Saviour, and I also know a lot who havent been inside a church since they did grade school there, and they go to confession and believe they are saved. I assure you, I dont believe they are. Many believe its ok to run around on the wife, get drunk all week and be a louse, and if you sit in the pew on Sunday and go to confession, your going to heaven. I dont think so. My Bible tells me there is more to it than that. You cannot pray your way in, or have others pray your way in. You cant rosary, or Peter, Paul and Mary your way in. Thats idol worship at its best. Only by the blood of Jesus, who did all the work for us, do you attain eternal life. And if you truly believe in Him, you dont do the aforementioned things. You just dont. So I see where he got that from. Not all are missing, but many.

          • libertytrain

            “Many believe its ok to run around on the wife, get drunk all week and be a louse, and if you sit in the pew on Sunday”
            Gee this fits many folks I have been acquainted with over the years and they were mostly Baptists? Hmm. Perhaps all Christians and people in general slip up now and then. I don’t think it is God’s Will that we judge each other’s Christianity or lack thereof. Do you really think that’s the right thing to do?

          • Vigilant

            Kinetic,

            “To assume that all Muslims, or even the majority of Muslims follow the Qur’an literally is as naive as suggesting that all Christians agree on the word of the Bible.”

            First, although I don’t know for sure if you were talking about me, I didn’t use the word “majority” with respect to Muslims who follow the “word” literally. On second thought, the application of Sharia Law is advocated by a great many Muslims, and literally so, to the point of stoning to death people for any number of infractions that our society would consider as misdemeanors or possibly not even that. And that law is the law of the governing body of the state in places like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

            We find no disagreement on the homosexual issue, except for the fact that I haven’t heard of any state-sanctioned murders of gays in the USA. My point is that the harsh, Sharia-like pre-Christian bibilical passages from Leviticus and Numbers are talked about in our free society more or less as just that: they’re talked about. On the other hand, the brutal state-sponsored application of Sharia Law is a reality, and many people die as a result every year.

            I agree there’s fanaticism in all religion. These are the “true believers” profiled so well by Eric Hoffer in his book by the same name. I highly recommend it if you haven’t read it.

            My personal philosophy as a Deist places me in a position of some aloofness to the religious discussions we find here. I see my function, if you will, as one who tries to pierce through the contradictions and BS when and where I find it, and that seems to happen on both sides of many issues.

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain—Let those without sin cast the first stone.

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain–I will catch up with you later….

          • http://?? Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            Kinda sounds like judge not lest ye be judged!!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Liberty Train, think about this. Satan has planted his people in all kinds of churches, hypocrites, to keep people like you out of them. You see them, they stick out like a sore thumb, and they make you not want to go to church. When this happens, satan has accomplished his mission. False prophets are with you everywhere, even now says the Lord. They are everywhere. And as for this judging stuff. You always here people say “dont judge me”. As believers, we are supposed to hold each other accountable when we see one doing wrong, and are supposed to set each other straight. And if a church is wholly doing anti scriptural things, and one is a believer and knows what the Bible says, you better believe Im going to judge them as doing something wrong, and Im going to tell them. I have had arguments over and over with some of my buddies growing up, and a couple have come to actually pick up their Bible and read, and have found out the deceptions that have been laid on them, and changed their way of thinking. Not from me, from what God’s word says. I am just a man, and have no power. But God’s word is full of power. But so many dont understand, the Bible is the guide for believers. Its not written for the unbeliever. To them it is just words. If you dont have the Holy Spirit in you, which you get when you ask Jesus into your life, its mysteries will stay hidden from you. Such is the power of God, that those in the darkness cannot possible understand, but that those of us who have invited the light into our lives, can clearly see. So yes, if I see a church doing wrong, Ill call them out on it, but I better be prepared with what God’s word says to back up my argument, because my opinion and my thoughts on this dont matter, but God’s word does, and it will be the final judge.

          • libertytrain

            Beberoni, you are correct, in the end it is God’s Word that makes the decision, not mere humans.

        • Eric Bischoff

          Bla bla bla. Go get a job at Fox they need more people like you.

          • Vigilant

            Another meaningful contribution to the discussion by Eric the Red.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Someone has to report the truth, heaven knows ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC wont do it.

      • Richard Pawley

        The last president of Egypt was assassinated by the Muslim Brotherhood 30 years ago, because he wanted peace with Israel. Another president of Egypt was assassinated 32 years before that by the MB. They were founded to convert the world to their way of thinking or die trying. Those who read the Bible (Revelation) know that there is coming a great war in the Middle East, and even those who don’t may have read of Dr. Nostradamus who over four hundred years ago said that a war would be fought between the Muslim Nations and the West, that it would begin around the year 2000, and it would last 27 years. Did you see the woman on Fox News last night? She was willing to invite one of the Guantanamo terrorists into her home. Of course she lives in Berkeley. Or did you see where one of the terrorists who killed 51 people in England a few years ago has entered our witness protection program and he will be fed and clothed and housed at taxpayer expensive for the rest of his life. He served just over a month for each murder he committed. Yes, the United States was a grand experiment but our founding fathers said it would not work unless a moral people governed themselves. Morality is hardly even an issue these days. Anything goes. Taxpayers give hundred of millions to Planned Parenthood something Thomas Jefferso thought immoral (to tax people to do what they feel is immoral). Many today want the government to ‘take care of them’ which it is glad to do until the money runs out. Look up how many are turned down for every kind of operation in England if they are over 59. We have spit in the face of God and broken every law that God told ancient Israel not to break. They were punished and so will we be. Stop blaming just Obama: It is congress who passes all the country-destroying legislation. It is congress who will ultimately be responsible for food and fuel tripling in price as they squander all the money they can borrow. If this new congress doesn’t cut drastically all the waste then our dollar will be scorned as it ruins the fortunes of many. Why do you think the Chinese are trying to get rid of them? Why do you think so many rich have left the USA? New York alone has lost a million plus citizens since the last census a decade ago and New Jersey has lost many millionaires who find Texas and other states much more economically viable where they are mostly union free. Obama is an ideologue. He believes he is right but he had no real world experience and I believe that is why he was picked to run for president. As I said in one of my books the Democratic party is made up almost exclusively of lawyers whereas the Republican party and the Independent Party and the Tea Party are made up of normal people with only a few lawyers. Lawyers don’t make good leaders for the most part because they look at their group as the good guys and everyone else as the enemy. I’m afraid I’m just preaching to the choir here. Some are so blinded by their own egos they see only what they want to see and it is possible that our president is among them. I don’t know the answer to all this but if we don’t stop throwing away our money for useless government products then the dollar’s value is going to lose 2/3 and food and fuel and things you actually need will triple.

        • S.C.Murf

          In the early days of the 13 colonies, Lawyers were not allowed to practice their trade in side the limits of the townships because they were known to be lier’s, deceivers etc.
          Keep up the fight and thanks for the truth

          up the hill
          airborne

          • Kinetic1

            In the early days of the 13 colonies, each of the colonies practiced their chosen form of Christianity and shunned those from others. I suppose that was a good idea as well?

          • Vigilant

            “In the early days of the 13 colonies, Lawyers were not allowed to practice their trade in side the limits of the townships because they were known to be lier’s, deceivers etc.”

            Sorry, I’m skeptical about that assertion. Can you source it please?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            If we would have kept that practice we wouldnt have dirty lying cheating greedy lawyers running the country and the legal system, messing it all up. Too bad for us.

        • Lewis Munn

          Good thoughts. But I am afraid all are preaching unto to the Congregation, and those outside will not hear it.

          The voices crying in the wilderness are not being heard!

          Anybody heard anything recent since Dearborne, Michigan went Islaamic and kicked out Christianity? Have they become a bastion of peace, progress, and good will for all? No crime, or doing things in secret??

          There were also cities in Canada that have gone over to Islaam, and have not been heard of again, aside from I had heard a while back all Christians were driven out and churches closed. Anybody know anything, or has Islaamization removed them from contact with the rest of the country, and free world?

          • ConservativeCanuck

            Lewis you said: “There were also cities in Canada that have gone over to Islaam, and have not been heard of again,”

            As a well-traveled Canadian this statement is a bit of a shock. Which Canadian cities have been lost to Islam?

          • Kinetic1

            Yes Lewis, even though it may upset Angel, do provide some sources to back up a rather amazing claim.

          • JC

            Conservative Canuck, I don’t think actual cities have been lost, just the Justice system in Canada. Which I would attribute to “MultiCulturalism” in general. Nothing will divide a country more than special rights for special groups.

          • Bruce D.

            I saw something on that a while back. I think he is talking about a Muslim section in one or more cities. They do not call the police to handle problems. They have their own justice system and give out fines to other Muslims who break Sharia Law. I think if you looked for the information hard enough you would find it on the internet if you have the interest, which I don’t. I do not think they try to impose it outside their section.

          • Richard Pawley

            Don’t know about Canada but I saw a couple of videos about Europe and how Muslims have not become Europeans but are converting governments and their laws to their point of view. What I found fascinating was that there were over 700 places in France alone that even the police do not go into. In both my books I pointed out that you cannot win against such people who will gladly die to ‘win’ if you are just using laser guided weapons and bullets. Jesus said, “God is Love” and if he was a prophet like Muslims believe they need to question their beliefs that death is the highest goal they can achieve. Everyone dies. That is hardly news but one of the terrorists who killed so many Russian school children said, that as much as we love life, they love death more. That is brain washing on a scale we can’t comprehend. Since Canada and the US seem to have lost a good bit of their spirituality then I do not see what can keep us from going the way of Europe unless we return to our roots, and the God of our founding fathers. I know that’s not politically correct but that’s the way it is. Maybe the coming financial chaos and the several hundred percent inflation which Obama and the progressives are helping to cause by their insane spending of money we don’t have, can slow all this down.

        • rosina

          It has already lost so much. But I believe that this is only the beginning.
          If you are snart, arm yourself-I do not mean with guns but by changing currency when you can. Buy Australian CDs. Swedish or Norwegian krona, Canadian stocks. Everbank does this online.
          Prepare yourself to lose but not all of it.
          As for OBAMARUINCARE it must be defunded.
          I lived with the NHS and know what rationing, filthy hospitals and non-caring nurses are like.
          WE DO NOT NEED IT HERE!

      • Another Voice

        Egypt is a predominantly Muslim country, so why shouldn’t Muslim political parties evolve and form a representative government? President Obama respects Egypt’s sovereignty and its right to self-determination. He is to be commended for this, not vilified. Just what exactly is he supposed to be doing, anyway?

        Egyptians are free to choose their own leaders now, and if they decide to form a government led by the Muslim Brotherhood it will be because the MB is doing more for the general welfare of the country than any other group. And if the MB turns out to be the ‘monsters’ most of you are saying they are, then the MB will be faced with the same angry mob that ousted Hosni Mubarak.

        • LES

          And they will receive the same treatment the angry mobs received in Iran. Calls for those opposed to the government to be executed.

          • Bruce D.

            I agree with that Les. If the Muslim Brotherhood takes control people who oppose them will be shot. The same as in Iran. They would have to gain control of the military also as in Iran to have full power. In January three more political dissenters were shot in Iran.

        • Vigilant

          Another Voice:

          “And if the MB turns out to be the ‘monsters’ most of you are saying they are, then the MB will be faced with the same angry mob that ousted Hosni Mubarak.”

          Hamas was democratically elected, they are monsters, and I don’t see any mobs in the street in the Gaza Strip.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Of course not. If you speak up against them over there, your as good as dead, as is your whole family.

          • Bruce D.

            I do not think some people understand the lack of value Muslim extremists have for human life. Everyone is expendable including believers. In the South of Thailand Muslims kill on the average of one person a day for the last seven years because Thais refuse to cater to their culture. Many are teachers and students as they want their culture incorporated into the school system. Many people are afraid to go out at night for fear of being a victim of circumstance. It doesn’t even make the news in America.

          • S.C.Murf

            Hamas took that part of land by force then voted themselves in. are you actually a muslim in american citizen clothing??? You are lost and will be one of their first converts when the time comes won’t you.

            up the hill
            airborne

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Not only that Bruce, I agree with what you say, but they value life so little, that they will strap a bomb on the back of their kids and send them into a mall or a bus and blow up people they dont even know. Its sick.

      • Kathy

        Please check out YouTube for an 8 minute mind-blowing explanation. It’s called “3 things you don’t know about Islam”. You will understand the agenda after you see that.

      • rhcrest

        Have you ever heard of taqqiya? The act of lying to advance the cause of Islam? Do you really believe what these people are saying? You can’t possibly be that naive!

      • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

        @karolyn – Well, that’s because you’re getting your news from sources outside the USA, which is absolutely ludicrous.

        I mean, really…if you are seeking an opinion on what the Muslim Brotherhood is *thinking*, obviously you need to ask an American…and not just any American, you need to ask a far-right, overly conservative American from one of the extremely redneck states, who fears anything and everything that isn’t white and ‘christian’.

        They’ll getcha your *real* answers…just ask ‘em.

        haha…this whole ‘article’ makes me laugh!

        bwahaha…@John Myers – paranoid much?!

        “Is Barack Obama The Manchurian Candidate For The Muslim Brotherhood?”

        …priceless. And yet, cheap, all at the same time.

        Ahhh, Republican/establishment propaganda…will your wonders ever cease?

        • libertytrain

          You don’t live in the USA – how can you feel so entitled to be racist about our Country?

          • Dogma-Free “The Trinity”

            hahaha…where am I from now, ‘libertytrain’…Moscow, perhaps?

            …Lubyanka?

            …St. Petersburg??

            …Vladivostok…???

            I think ‘train’ is a fitting name for you, because you’re way off-track. ;)

          • libertytrain

            Your spelling slip-ups a few weeks ago show you to be Canadian or Great Britain style spelling… I’m guessing Canadian.

          • JC

            Wherever Dogma Fed is…he’s one sick twisted freak.
            Not to be left alone with children or small animals.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Karolyn, that response was wrong. Dont defend the muslims. Let there be no doubt, they want you dead. Its not only a fact, they dont deny it. They shout it out loud and clear. They put it in print and on film. They make no qualms or apologies about it. They will not rest until we are dead, or they die trying. Why do any of you not believe what they keep telling us? Its unbelievable. I dont say it, they do, and over and over again, in many, many ways. How dumb can we as a people be to deny it? I dont get it.

      • EddieW

        And they are required to LIE to fulfill their agenda of be a muslim or be dead!! There is no intermediate…that is the toall philosopjhy of Islam!! No way around it!! The Liar in Chief IS a Muslim…and a LIAR!!! Do not be taken in by “peaceful” Muslims…that is not their goal or agenda!!!

    • Jovianus

      :”Neither a religious organization, nor a social organization, nor a political party, but a combination of all three.”

      Sounds very much like this fits the Christian Right.

      • S.C.Murf

        Jovbob, time for you to make that popping sound, please

      • http://personalliberty Cindy

        And the name of this Christian Right organization, the well established community activist group in operation for many years…? Islam embraces suffering and death, not compassionate life. Are you certain their Allah is God of the Christians ahd Jews? Liberals uncritical support of Muslim groups in any form presented is so contradictory, in such contrast to their own proclaimed belief system. You choose, seemingly without hesitation, to take them at their very word, disregarding decades of documented associative history. Have you not heard of their tenet of taqiyya??? ‘Time you used some common sense.

      • Lewis Munn

        What does your comment have to do with the issues of Islaam? I have yet to read or hear that one MUST join the Religious Right or be killed!

        Suggest reading the Qur’an a couple times to get the flavor of Islaam firsthand. Then compare the Religious Right documentation! I believe you will find fundamental differences!!

        • Jovianus

          Lewis:

          It’s not “issues with Islam”. It’s issues with extremist religious sects. THAt’S the issues we face today. Whether it be Islamic, Christian, Hindu or whatever. As far as your reference to ‘join or die’ not being present in extremist Christian sects, I would argue such is indeed the case…join our views because when we hold power you will suffer.

          People are scurrying up the MB as the latest boogie man to attack this administration. Heck..the way the attacks are framed in unrealistic notions, Obama could bring about world peace and he’d be attacked because he didn’t include the Galaxy.

          I’m not stating Obama is perfect, but I am stating that there is nothing from any other wquarter that proposes any rational alternative accompanied by specifics. And to attack by saying “if” the MB does this or comes to that…c’mon, give me a break. That’s like saying if your wife stands on a street corner soliciting passerbys, I may well get VD via the 7th connection theory. It’s just not reality !

          • Vigilant

            Jovianus:

            “It’s issues with extremist religious sects. THAt’S the issues we face today. Whether it be Islamic, Christian, Hindu or whatever. As far as your reference to ‘join or die’ not being present in extremist Christian sects, I would argue such is indeed the case…join our views because when we hold power you will suffer.”

            It’s worse than foolish, it’s intellectually dishonest to attempt to draw a parallel between Christian extremism and Muslim extremism. I can list a host of things done by Islamists over the past 25 years that resulted in the intended loss of innocent life.

            Even if you could find one example of Christian terrorism, it would pale into insignificance when compared with the thousands of innocent lives lost due to the murderous creed of those Muslim extremists.

            And no, I’m not talking about dragging out the shopworn examples of Christian intolerance from previous centuries. Let’s talk about our lifetimes.

          • Jovianus

            Ok…let’s begin anytime you want. Let’s toss out 9/11 since that is an aberration of a bunch of criminals and goons getting lucky due to an incompetent adminstration.

            I’ll start with the Olympics bombing and subsequent attacks on women’s health clinics. Couple of doctors dead, couple of people wounded, a few bombings etc. If you want to include 9/11…we can bring up McVey. Or how about Jim Jones? Shall we go on? Extremism exists in all religions…and none are peaceful.

          • Vigilant

            Sorry, Jovianus, not even close. Your examples, as predicted, “pale into insignificance when compared to the thousands of innocent lives lost due to the murderous creed of those Muslim extremists.”

            First of all, anyone who can’t admit to the truth of what I’m saying is either current-events-challenged or they live in another universe. If you want just one reference, see http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/globalterrorism1.html for a “Map of worst terrorist attacks worldwide: 100 or more fatalities.” Duh, the overwhelming majority were Muslim terrorist actions. Doesn’t surprise me, does it surprise you?

            Secondly, you have not mentioned ONE instance where any Christian church has lauded or advocated any of the incidents you list. NOT ONE!

            Thirdly, you are fond of obfuscating the issue with invalid comparisons. Most interesting was your reference to the Olympics bombing at Atlanta (2 killed). Compare that with the 1972 Olympics massacre of 11 Israeli athletes and 5 Black September thugs. And by whom was Black September supported? Yasir Arafat. Can you tell me precisely which church in America funded and supported the Atlanta bombing? I didn’t think so.

            Same goes for Tim McVey, and why you gave him as an example is beyond me. Abortion clinics, Jim Jones? Sorry, no cigar.

            In short, you take every lone wolf who is imbalanced, and with an ax to grind, and you blame their actions on the church. Such is the dishonesty of the left wing.

            As for 9/11, I won’t even begin to engage in conversation with a conspiracy theorist. Those are children’s games, and I won’t play them.

            By my reckoning, the score is 100 for me, zero for you so far. You said, “Shall we go on?” Yes, by all means go on, because every time you furnish an “example” you damage your own cause.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jov,
            Perfect example from you of taqiyya! Been a Muslim long???? From birth or converted???

          • Vigilant

            C’mon, Jovianus, we’re still waiting.

            I’m just dieing to learn when Christian Churches supported the flying of aircraft into buildings, advocated the use of dirty bombs, subscribed to and applauded the murder of innocent women and children through indiscriminate rocket attacks, used car bombs, etc.

            C’mon, c’mon, cat got your tongue?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Only because of the Christian, is this country still around today. Pay attention, Ill say it again. Only because of Christians is the United States around today. We are well on our way to kicking God out and persecuting Christians, and it will come to the point where God will totally remove His blessing from us, then all you Jovianus satan followers can wallow in your pain as the muslims kill you all one by one. And its coming buddy, you better believe it. Without God’s blessings, this country is done. And its coming soon, the more you all keep telling Him to leave. And He will give you the desires of your hearts. Only the prayers of todays Christians are holding it together.

        • Kate8

          Beberoni – The primary reason the Left and the NWO hates Christianity is because they put their faith in God before government, and they believe in preserving the family unit.

          It’s the same with the Left promoting “civil rights” for blacks, gays and women, because these agendas are destructive to the trditional family. They want us to have no allegience to anyone but the State. They really care nothing about anyone’s civil rights.

          This is why they also promote Islam, becaue Islam IS the State. And they don’t have family values as we know them. I mean, who’d want to live in a family where there is always the threat of being killed by your husband, father or brother for just thinking for oneself.

          • mark

            Could you please tell me how giving blacks the right to go to any business establishment, the right to buy property in any location is hurting family values? You are diffentily a racist just like your fellow conservatives!

    • Lewis Munn

      Read the religious orders in the Qur’an, about subjugating ALL people.

      And note that religion comes first to Muslims by order. No getting around it.

      And freedom or Democracy is NOT any part of the Muslim faith!! But lying is. Of course, Obama is not Muslim, is he?

      Have you missed the truth?

      • Jovianus

        I dunno. He was baptized. His parents were christian. His grandparents were christian. He went to chrisitan schools. He is a long standing emember of a church. His speeches are laced with christian and biblical references. He was married in a church, his kids were baptized in a church.

        Yeah…there’s a lot to connect him to being a Muslim.

        • Sonja

          YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO OBAMA BEING A CHRISTIAN, ETC. You need to read his books, he CLEARLY HAS CHOSEN HIS MUSLIM DNA, HE CHANGED HIS NAME EVEN TO A MUSLIM NAME. OBUMMER & HIS WIFE ATTENDED MANY AMERICAN FLAG BURNING SESSIONS. YOU CALL HIS GOING TO WRIGHT’S RACIST CHURCH FOR 20 YRS WHO PREACHED “GOD DAMN AMERICA” A CHRISTIAN CHURCH?? TO MANY EXAMPLES TO POST, BOTTOM LINE, OBUMMER “IS NOT” A CHRISTIAN, HE IS A MUSLIM BY HIS OWN CHOICE, HE IS EVIL, HE CAN NOT BE TRUSTED OR BELIEVED, A TRAINED CON-ARTIST “COMMUNITY ORGANIZER”, HE IS FOR THE “MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD”, EVEN INVITED THEM PERSONALLY TO HIS SPEECH HE WAS GIVING IN 2009 WHEN HE WAS IN EGYPT, THEY ACCEPTED. MAY GOD TAKE HIM & TOSS HIM INTO HELL WHERE HE BELONGS.

          • Jovianus

            May I refer readers to an above post discussing religious extremists…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            So let me get this straight Judas Jovianus, your allowed to attack and attack, and express your point of view, but no one else is allowed to have one. Hey, I think your a muslim. That is the exact mentality. Shame on you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jovianus,
            First off, nobamas grandparents on his MOTHERS side were christian, on his FATHERS side they were Muslim!! He attended Muslim schools, attended Muslim religeous training and said ” there is nothing more beautiful than the Muslim call to worship!” Those are HIS words not mine!!
            You, as a progressive have chosen a good screen name as jovius depended on the princes for his living!!! just like the majority of the progressives want the princes(see government) to support them!!!

        • Palin12

          Who are you trying to fool? Obummer went to school in Indonesia from ages 6-10. His school admissions document listed his religion as Islam. Then he started attending Rev. Wright’s “goddamn America” church in order to further his political career as he did not believe he could be elected if people knew he was a muslim.

          • Jovianus

            Are you referring to the proven to be false claim his school admissions certificate to a CATHOLIC school had him listed as a Muslim?

            You believe that? Whoa ….

          • karolyn

            Wow, another conservative “seer”!

          • Palin12

            AP photo of Barry Soetero’s Indonesian school admission’s document which lists his religion as Islam:
            http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/ap_photo_of_bar_1.php

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Excuse me. His parents were, and are still, muslim.

          • Kate8

            Beberoni – I thought they were dead.

    • Charles Kuhleissen II

      I want 2 leav U all wid a bottom lein comment,es that is 2 if ur not
      alreddy a viewer of the series”V”, 2 watch it,es u’ll b amazed @ how
      condx in “These United States”,as well as around the werld,r xactly the same.Just watch 1 episode, of it,es u’ll c how those that r against,es fighting the”Visitor’s”,will turn on their group,so that
      the”Visitor’s agenda will b completed.Sum of the prior”V”,friends,d seided 2 go against their former”V’s”.
      Television has a way 2 indoctrinate viewers,as 2 wat’s happening in
      our own Country,es it’s up 2 the viewer 2 interprit it’s validity.Also
      I want 2 leav U wid this last comment.From the”Xfeils”,The Truth is out There”.-Charlie……….

      • Vigilant

        My God, was that a text message? I’m glad I never bought a cell phone!

        • http://deleted Claire

          Vigilant—Good one!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Vigilant,
          I’ve had one for about ten years and even I had problems reading that mess!!

        • Granny Mae

          Vigilant,

          I think this is written by someone that is of foreign extraction and they havent quite mastered our written language. I write to an elderly woman that was born and raised in the Ukraine and her letters are the same. sometimes it takes me an hour to figure out what she is saying. This one wasn’t as bad as hers ! LOL ! Be patient.

    • Void1972

      “THE BATTLE IS NOT BETWEEN LEFT AND RIGHT”
      In the 1960′s British-born Dr. Anthony Sutton was a Fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institute when he discovered that, in spite of the Cold War, the US was supplying the USSR with its technology, including weapons used against American soldiers in Vietnam. Sutton dug deeper and discovered that Wall Street had sponsored both the Bolshevik Revolution and the rise of Nazi Germany. The resulting books which are on line cost Dr. Sutton his academic career.
      In 1983, Dr. Sutton received a list of Skull and Bones members and immediately recognized the names of many men who controlled American policy. He published a book entitled “America’s Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones” (1986). He updated and republished this book just before his death last June at age 77. Here are some of his conclusions.
      • “The Order” is ” a purely American phenomenon with German origin.” Dr. Sutton compares it to the Round Table, Cecil Rhodes’ secret society at Oxford also known as “The Group.” The American and British entities consist of 20-30 dynastic families each. Jewish banking interests connect them.
      “The links between ‘The Order’ and Britain go through Lazard Freres and the private merchant banks… ‘The Group’ links to the Jewish equivalent through the Rothschilds in Britain… ‘The Order’ in the US links to the Guggenheim, Schiff and Warburg families.” (23)
      As Dr. Sutton notes, the “Order” had definite anti Semitic tendencies but by the 1960′s, many Jewish names started to appear among the 15 annual inductees. See list of Skull and Bones members.
      • Dr. Sutton believes the “left” versus “right” split is fraudulent and used to control the debate and condition citizens to think along certain lines. Left-wing magazines like the “The Nation” and “The New Republic” and right-wing magazines like “The National Review were “artificially set up.” The former were financed by Whitney money while the latter by Buckley. Both are “The Order.”
      Dr. Sutton states: “Sooner or later people will wake up. First we have to dump the trap of right and left. This is a Hegelian trap to divide and control. The battle is not between right and left; it is between us and them.”
      Similarly, in the international field left and right political structures are artificially constructed and collapsed in the drive for one-world synthesis, i.e. authoritarian socialism controlled by monopoly capital.
      College textbooks present war and revolution as accidental results of conflicting forces. This is nonsense, says Dr. Sutton. They are created and financed by Wall Street to create a new world order. But you won’t read this in history books.
      “Our Western history is every bit as distorted, censored and largely useless as that of Hitler’s Germany or the Soviet Union or Communist China…” (122)
      • Dr. Sutton believes The Order has many weaknesses resulting from an inbred gene pool, a shallow power base and a limited worldview. In any future conflict between the authoritarian state and the individual, he believes opposition will take “a million forms.”
      ” No one is going to create the anti-The Order movement. That would be foolish and unnecessary. It could be infiltrated, bought off, or diverted all too easily. Why play by the rules set by the enemy?
      The movement that will topple The Order will be extremely simple and most effective. It will be ten thousand or a million Americans who come to the conclusion that they don’t want the State to be boss, that they prefer to live under the protection of the Constitution. They will make their own independent decision to thwart The Order and it will take ten thousand or a million forms.” (55)

      • S.C.Murf

        Good post Thanks (good v evil)

      • JC

        Seems to tie in with IBM “New York” supplying the Nazi’s with the equipment to track and count the Jews they were murdering “during” the war as well as Prescott Bush laundering money for them.
        Hmmmm

  • JeffH

    First things first, Obama hasn’t a clue about anything…he’s “Lost in Space”. There are a lot of things happening behind the scene that you won’t hear or see from the lamestream media.

    It’s important to understand that Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt have active support from Code Pink, who has been on the ground in Cairo since the beginning of the uprising. Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn, both of the Weatherman Underground terrorists, joined Code Pink’s Jodie Evans in Cairo to provoke the riots against Mubarak and help raise funds for the Muslim Brotherhood. Code Pink’s Evans, Ayers and Dohrn were also behind the so-called Gaza Freedom March in December. They’re also activly promoting the uprisings of Plaestinians in Gaza against the Israelis. Philip Weiss wrote of witnessing Ayers and Dohrn getting caught up in the debate over whether to accept Egypt’s offer for a small number of activists entry to Gaza.

    Code Pink is the same organization that was funded by the Obama/Joyce Foundation. When Code Pink last visited Hamas in June, they were given a letter addressed to President Obama from Hamas.

    Hamas, Code Pink, Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Jodie Evans and Barack Obama. Quite a witches brew. And the Huffington Post and Politico wonder why Americans doubt Obama’s committment to win the war on terror.

    Code Pink says it is a 501-c3 tax exempt organization. Who knew funding the overthrow of U.S. allies was a tax exempt charitable act?

    Let us just hope that the Egyptian people can have a smooth transition to a democracy, one that can stand for peace without the influence of these terrorist organizations.

    • JeffH

      …Forgot to mention that the Marxist organization Code Pink has a long and storied history with the anti-American global left. Code Pink was not shy about its support for Hamas. The group bragged that Hamas terrorists guaranteed their safety in Gaza.
      http://biggovernment.com/taylorking/2011/01/29/did-muslim-brotherhood-learn-day-of-rage-egypt-protest-tactics-from-obama-allies-bill-ayers-and-code-pink/

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Good work.

        Did you happen to see the interview on O’Reilly with the CodePink woman from Berkeley? The Berkeley city council, backed by CodePink, has extended welcome to the (soon to be) released GITMO detainees.

        Heck, that’s our backyard!

        These people are truly nuts. The woman being interviewed definitely seemed several cards short of a full deck.

        • JeffH

          Kate8, having been raised just a few miles north of Berkley(6mi)and having friends that still live there I was really interested in that interview…that woman was a deck short of a full deck. She’s never had a clue about anything if that interview was any indiator. I would have thought it was a SNL comedy skit had I not known better.
          Berkley has no say in the matter anyway, that’s how rediculous it was.

          • SEscott

            i went to High School in Berkeley (Bizurkly to locals….) i was also reared in a small town about 10 mi north of there. this lady that was on O’Reilly is typical of the nuts that live there. Not much has changed there since the 1960s…..

          • Vigilant

            I saw the interview last night, and I only wish Bill had allowed her to speak more than the ACLJ commentator. Given enough rope, I think she would have “blowed up real good.”

          • JeffH

            SEscott, I was raised in El Sobrante.

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, you mean Hannity.

          • Vigilant

            I stand corrected Jeff. The ACLJ guy was really good, but neither he nor Hannity gave her enough time to make a total fool of herself. Truth is, I felt a little sorry for her. She was obviously unprepared.

            Kate8, it’s your fault! (:-) You started with O’Reilly and I just kept on without thinking (yes, even I have brain hiccups sometimes).

          • JeffH

            Vigilant, it don’t really matter who did the interview.LOL!
            The ACLJ guy was pretty sharp but what he was saying just didn’t compute with the Code Pink loon. She looked like a fish out of water and her eyes had tha “deer in a headlite” look to them. She was almost surreal.

          • Granny Mae

            Vigilant,

            Oh now go ahead and blame it all on poor little Kate8 ! LOL !

        • Rose

          When has Berkeley ever had common sense? Never. I have lived in CA for more than 50 years and I still cannot understand the mentality in that city or even why it is still in existence. Seems as tho San Francisco is not the only fruit, nuts and berries city in our state. CA is suffering from such liberal and social ideas and wonder why it cannot pay its bills and support stupidity at the same time. Somehow you often wonder if everyone you know here is smoking something because their brains are on full stop. I see Texas as my bolt hole because there is not much left in this state to attract nor keep we who have brains and use them. Muslims are here. They have literally taken over some cities with their population uncontrol and they have not stepped up to the plate to declare the wrongs of other Muslims here or elsewhere in the world which tells me they are like “uncover” Islamists just awaiting the moment, but with people like those in Berkeley and San Francisco, their heads are definitely in the sand and spout PC as though it were a religion rather than a bunch of hot air and stupidity and ignorance of humankind. I became a Tea Partier to fight for America, and I invite others to do likewise or at least get off their duffs and stop the complaints and responses here and do something proactive. Words are just words, but actions speak louder than words!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Rose,
            The problem with Texas is there’s too many dam illegals!!!

        • Sonja

          I also saw the interview with the Code Pink person, when she opened her mouth & spoke, it was CLEAR she doesn’t have both oars in the water. SERIOUSLY, SHE DOESN’T. When she stated she had a room in her house all ready for someone from GITMO to come live at her house, I thought to myself, “doesn’t that woman realize “they” would “cut off her head” in a heartbeat”? I could just see the story in the newspapers of this happening. SO SAD, SO MANY “FEEBLEMINDED” PEOPLE THINKING THE WAY THEY DO. GOD HELP OUR COUNTRY.

          • Granny Mae

            Sonja,

            Your right and when this person get’s killed by some idiot from Gitmo, then the law will come out with more of their ban guns , or knives or machetty’s or maybe even hands because this poor innocent air head was killed ! Idiot’s !!!!

        • JeffH

          Kate8, the interview was on Hannity…

          • Kate8

            JeffH – Hannity – whatever. I only watch snippets of them on occasion, and forget which said what.

            I missed the part where she talked about having a room ready. Geez, doesn’t she realize that, to a Muslim man, that would be a deadly offense against Islam, unless he married her?

            I’d love an update on that one.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, the who really isn’t important anyway. Hannity actually let her speak because the more she opened her mouth, the more her lack of knowledge in the matter of why these people were in GITMO and why they are dangerous became even more evident. She was a genuine nut case. Honestly, she appeared to be mentally deficient and was certainly mentally challenged..

            She actually said she had a spare bedroom, ready right now, for one or more of them to move in. Shae had no clue whatsoever about the Obama or his administration.

          • Vigilant

            Did anyone notice that when Hannity made some remark about being an Obama supporter, she looked like she was going to deny it, but was overridden by the conversation? Wonder who she voted for? Are the mentally challenged eligible to vote? (I take that back, they must be eligible; that’s the only way Obama got elected).

    • WayneT

      If this is a fact, and it can be proven, then the criminals who are doing this should be tried, and put in prison for a long, long time.

      • Richr

        Wayne, The only ones that will see that done is “WE THE PEOPLE”

    • eddie47d

      You made your point Jeff. Why is there still a blockade by Israel against Gaza. No country should be denied food and necessities and if Israel feels that weapons are being smuggled in then international inspectors should handle the cargo. Deliberately causing people to suffer is not good politics or humanitarian. Weapons can be brought in from across the deserts so their blockade is senseless. The CIA also has a long history of fermenting trouble,torturing people and starting wars. That is just in the Middle East yet you continue to emphasise low grade ex “terrorists” and make it seem like they started the whole mess. NOT by a long shot! Go read Teresa’s column in the other thread on Egypt today. You’ll find out who the real culprits are in shaping our world. That includes Eric Holder if that peaks you interest.

      • JeffH

        eddie, nice to see you acknowledge that I made my point clear to you.
        Israel’s blockade hasn’t stopped food and necessities from going to Gaza…it’s there to stop “WEAPONS” from going to Gaza. I also read Teresa’s comments and what is in it is no surprise and only confirms that there are a lot of organizations involved in the Egyptian situation. Dig deep enough and you’ll see that in one way or another they have common connections.

        • JeffH

          …If you want to know why there is a blockade in the first place, sent an email or a letter to Israel and ask them. I’m quite sure they could give you a far more detailed answer.

      • JeffH

        eddie says “Weapons can be brought in from across the deserts so their blockade is senseless.” I’m pretty sure that the anti-Israeli Terrorists have tried without success but would support your idea that a blockade against weapons is senseless.

  • JeffH

    Something else that’s really fishy… has anyone wondered why the rioters in Egypt have carried out so many attacks on journalists?
    Harming journalists is counter to a storyline that “the Egyptian people want Democracy.” If these were ordinary citizens of Egypt rising up for a new and better form of government, wouldn’t they welcome reporting of their plight? Instill fear in journalists and the questions won’t be asked and answered and we won’t learn the truth about who these rioters really are and who organized them.

    Aside from Obama’s inclusion of Muslim Brotherhood members here in America, are there any other connections that bring us to Egypt with a connection to Soros? Yes, there are.

    Soros and Obama have an influential, ground-engaged connection in Egypt – Saad Eddin Ibrahim

    Human rights activist Saad Eddin Ibrahim sought funding from Soros’ Open Society Institute (OSI) in May of 2003 and OSI’s website contains a summary of their OSI Forum: “The Battle for Civil Society in Egypt – Freed Reformist Sees Hope for Islamic Democracies”

    Nearly a year ago (May of 2010), Saad Ibrahim called for defiance and civil disobedience in Egypt as the means to achieve transformation. Ibrahim expressed disappointment that President Obama had not yet followed through with the transformation in Egypt. Ibrahim voiced his support for ElBaradei and Muslim rule in Egypt.

    The fall of Egypt into the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood would almost ensure war with Israel and would place America at risk. Is this the outcome Obama and his pal George Soros seek?

    When the UN (Judge Goldstone) issued a report alleging war crimes against Israel, a September 30, 2010 Washington Times article states, “Benjamin Netanyahu, famously said last year that Israel faces three major threats — “the Iranian nuclear program, rockets aimed at our civilians, and Goldstone”.

    Judge Goldstone was involved with George Soros and OSI. J-Street and NAF receive funds from Soros’ OSI also. All three organizations associated with Judge Goldstone‘s visit to Washington — J Street, NAF and OSI — receive substantial funding from the Nazi collaberator billionaire George Soros, who is also a fierce critic of AIPAC and Israeli policies.

    Summing it up, George Soros is connected to President Obama, Saad Ibrahim, Judge Goldstone and America’s far-left anti-Israel and anti-American organizations. It appears the violent revolutionaries in Egypt may be nothing short of radical Muslims organized by America’s far-left, supported by Obama and Soros and who are on a mission to destroy Israel and increase harm to the United States of America.
    http://exposed.liberty.com/2011/02/obama-soros-egypt/

    • karolyn

      The attacks on journalists were carried out by Mubarak supporters. The woman journalist who was sexually assaulted during the celebrations is another matter. That was just Muslim men being Muslim men, in essence, pigs. She was helped by a group of women.

      • Steve

        Karolyn,

        So, all Muslim men are PIGS? Are you a racist trolling on this site?

        • karolyn

          ANY MAN WHO SEXUALLY ASSAULTS A WOMAN IS A PIG!

          • JC

            Islam seems to relegate all women to the status of herd animal.
            How about that Sharia Law Karolyn? You up for it?

          • libertytrain

            While I agree with you that all men that assault women are pigs. It was kind of interesting that you chose to call all Muslim men pigs. It doesn’t match your other posts about the gentle Muslim people.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, contradictions make for a very slippery slope.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff “slip sliding away…”

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, Simon & Garfunkel…?

          • libertytrain

            Jeff – “Believe we’re gliding down the highway, when in fact we’re slip sliding away”

            yepper

          • eddie47d

            Karolyn made it perfectly clear that Muslim men who sexually assault women are pigs. That has nothing to do with the general population even though you are trying hard to make it so.

          • libertytrain

            Sorry this isn’t even ambiguous: “That was just Muslim men being Muslim men, in essence, pigs”

          • JC

            I notice Karolyn does not respond to my question about Sharia Law.
            Are we looking for the good side Karolyn? (There isn’t one)

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          No sir, they are pigs. They treat their women worse than animals, like something they own, and that is pig treatment. We are commanded to love our wives, as Christ loved the church, which He gave His life up for. They believe women are a possession, and treat them like dirt. If that wife isnt working out, they just kill them, and get another one, and call it an honor killing, and it is accepted in the muslim way, because it is run by all men, where women are dogs to them. Yes, all muslim men are pigs, and it has nothing to do with racism. Wake up pal.

          • dan

            I loved my wife like Christ loves the church and she treated me like a pig……I think I need a hug.

          • Vigilant

            Same here, Dan. To paraphrase some wag, “I was married by a judge….I should have had a jury.”

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Wow. Sorry guys, sometimes no matter how we try, things dont work out. But we try.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Beberoni,
            Actually, all they have to do is accuse them of ADULTERY and the crowd will kill her for him!!! No trial, no guilty or innocent, Just stone her to death!!

          • Granny Mae

            Dan,

            Sometimes there just ain’t no justice ! Lol. Sorry ! I am really sorry but the devil made me say it ! lol !

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Jeffh, a Google executive was also one the main leaders in this uprising as well. While the internet has been a haven for the good fight, with sites like this one, what better way to organize, than to use a major search engine and social networks.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        BTW, If the right wingers tried this we’d have been jailed!

  • s c

    The American people would do well to REMEMBER what our fearless leader said about the Muslim Brotherhood. According to The Obummer, the M B is just a bunch of fun-loving bubbas who wouldn’t hurt a flea. In fact, the truth is much closer to Hitler and his Brown Shirts (or SS, if you want to get technical).
    NEVER forget that Muslims backed Hitler in WWII. And they have NEVER tried to distance themselves from that HISTORICAL, PROVEN FACT.

    • karolyn

      Where is all this information coming from on the MB? I have certainly heard just the opposite from most resources.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        K, your only relying on sources in side your own box_look around!

        • s c

          Angel, if you read K’s comments made at 8:46 and 8:47 and you compare them, it’s painfully obvious that she has contradicted herself in ways that only a progressive could do it.
          She is, utterly without a clue. In another situation, it would be hilarious. This, however, is beyond sad.

          • Kinetic1

            What contradictions would those be, sc. Are you suggesting that MB is a group of Mubarak supporters? Please, spell it out for us poor, confused progressives.

          • karolyn

            I see no contradiction SC.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            sc, I get it_she claims looking at both sides, but grasps at straws & leans a definite left. A little digging does reveal, and its why I get irritated when the lefties ask for sources about a post, I figure, if ya want the info, then don’t be so damn lazy and go look for it!

          • Kinetic1

            Give me a break Angel. Do you know how many times I’ve had to provide the source for the “righties” (to use your parlance) on this site? I’ve never dealt with such a lazy bunch. Forget giving source references, some of these folks won’t even bother to use punctuation! If you’re wiling to take the time to look up information and substantiate your claims, then it should not be a problem for you to point to your source. Otherwise, you should not be surprised when your “facts” are questioned.

          • Vigilant

            Kinetic,

            I think we should allow karolyn a little sabbatical to bone up on hard sources of information about the MB, including direct quotes from that group.

            I’m afraid I have to agree with you, so many posters here seem to spend all their waking time listening to or watching the media without ever looking into background source material. I’ll compliment you by saying that you’re normally pretty good at it, as is Angel.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Kinectic_-I do my homework__rarely do I ever ask for proof from and opinion or a post__even if I did, I would take anyones word for it, I’d go and google it, to get all sides of the story_ and find my own truths.

          • Kinetic1

            Angel,
            I’m glad you do your homework, and I do mine as well. My point is that having done the work, it’s only reasonable to provide the source used to back up the claim. I could leave it to the reader to search out my quotes, but it’s a pain (and I have had to do that myself on several occasions). Odd thing is, on those occasions where the writer was not willing to provide the information, I usually found that the source was either a) a very biased site with questionable integrity, in which case I find it easy to locate solid opinions that conflict, or b) the quote is cherry picked from someone who doesn’t even agree with them. So, rather than attacking those who ask for source, I think we should encourage everyone to do as we do and look before they write.

      • WayneT

        Apparently your reading the liberal blogs and not getting the complete story, Carolyn.

        • karolyn

          I do not confine what I hear and read to any specific sources, favoring sampling from different places. I surf the news and online and listen to NPR. (Oh, no!)

          • Vigilant

            karolyn,

            PLEASE understand that I’m not trying to be flip about this, but I really want to know how much backup research you do from independent sources in print or on the internet. I admit there’s a lot of dross in both of those sources, but at least look at the positions stated by the MB, in their own words. If you do, I think you would change your mind about them.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Karolyn: Read Jihad & Jew Hatred: Islamism, Nazism & the roots of 9-11 by Matthais Kuntzel. That will tell you some things about them.

        • karolyn

          Actually, Wayne, I never read liberal blogs. Well, maybe once in a blue moon. I have more things to spend my time on than this.

    • Sonja

      People have wondered exactly what Obummer doesn’t want us to know that is in his “documents” that he has ordered “kept secret”. Many people think it has to do with his place of birth, “not a U S Citizen, which clearly may be, but I think his records may just also show that he is & has been for many years “A MEMBER OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD” among many other documents which would prove his HATE FOR AMERICA AND ISRAEL.

  • TIME

    Have you not all been told that The MB is a gentle form of person’s you all know the kind of people that grow flowers in their yards and express thier love and kindness toward other humans. they don’t eschew hate filled rhetoric. Its all just Love beads and bubbles with the MB’s.

    The flowers they grow are beautiful and lush as a matter of fact their flowers are so beautiful they win awards for them.
    And the reason why is the special type of Fertlizers they use also known as the Hanable Lector garden’s.
    You just can’t beat twenty or more bodys rotting under your flowers for super blooms time after time.

    Can’t you just smell the flowers growing? Oh LOVE is in the air..

  • http://Hubpages.com Ralph Deeds

    Ridiculous!

  • Teresa

    (2-12-11) In 2008, the Alliance of Youth Movements held its inaugural summit in New York City. Attending this summit was a combination of State Department staff, Council on Foreign Relations members, former National Security staff, Department of Homeland Security advisers, and a myriad of representatives from American corporations and mass media organizations including AT&T, Google, Facebook, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and MTV.(pdf).
    One might suspect such a meeting of representatives involved in US economic, domestic and foreign policy, along with the shapers of public opinion in the mass media would be convening to talk about America’s future and how to facilitate it. Joining these policy makers, was an army of “grassroots” activists that would “help” this facilitation.
    Among them was a then little known group called “April 6″ from Egypt. These Facebook “savvy” Egyptians would later meet US International Crisis Group trustee Mohamed ElBaradei at the Cairo airport in Februrary 2010 and spend the next year campaigning and protesting on his behalf in his bid to overthrow the government of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
    The Alliance of Youth Movements mission statement claims it is a not-for-profit organization dedicated to helping grassroots activists to build their capacity and make a greater impact on the world. While this sounds fairly innocuous at first, even perhaps positive, upon examining those involved in “Movements.org,” a dark agenda is revealed of such nefarious intent it is almost difficult to believe.
    Movement.org is officially partnered with the US Department of State and Columbia Law School. Its corporate sponsors include Google, Pepsi, and the Omnicon Group, all listed as members of the globocrat Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
    CBS News is a sponsor and listed on the globocrat Chatham House’s corporate membership list.
    Other sponsors include Facebook, YouTube, Meetup, Howcast, National Geographic, MSNBC, GenNext, and the Edelman public relations firm.
    Movement.org’s “team” includes Co-Founder Jared Cohen, a CFR member, Director of Google Ideas, and a former State Department planning staff member under both Condoleezza Rice and Hilary Clinton.
    Founding Movements.org with Cohen is Jason Liebman of Howcast Media which works with mega-corporate conglomerates like Proctor & Gamble, Kodak, Staples, Ford, and government agencies such as the US State Department and the US Defense Department, to create “custom branded entertainment, innovative social media, and tardeted rich-media campaigns.” He was also with Google for 4 years where he worked to partner with Time Warner (CFR), News Corporation (FoxNews, CFR) Viacom, Warner Music, Sony Pictures, Reuters, the New York Times, and the Washington Post Company.
    Roman Sunder is also credited with co-founding Movements.org. He founded Access 360 Media, a mass advertising company, and he also organized the PTTOW! Summit which brought together 35 top executives from companies like AT&T (CFR), Quicksilver, Activison, Facebook, HP, YouTube, Pepsi (CFR), and the US Government to discuss the future of the “youth industry.” He is also a board member of Gen Next, another non-profit organization focused on “affecting change for the next generation.”
    It is hard, considering these men’s affiliations, to believe that the change they want to see is anything less than a generation that drinks more Pepsi, buys more consumerist junk, and believes the United States government every time they purvey their lies to us via their corporate owned media.
    While the activists attending the Movements.org summit adhere to the philosophies of “left-leaning” liberalism, the very men behind the summit, funding it, and prodding the agenda of these activists are American’s mega-corporate combine.
    These are the very big-businesses that have violated human rights worldwide, destroyed the environment, sell shoddy, overseas manufactured goods produced by workers living in slave conditions, and pursue an agenda of greed and perpetual expansion at any cost.
    The hypocrisy is astounding unless of course you understand that their nefarious, self-serving agenda could only be accomplished under the guise of genuine concern for humanity, buried under mountains of feel-good rhetoric, and helped along by an army of exploited, naive youth.
    What we see is not a foundation from which all activists can work from, but a foundation that has a very selective group of activists working on “problem spots” the US State Department would like to see “changed.” Sudan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Eastern Europe, Venezuela, and even Thailand – where ever protesters and movements are working to undermine governments non-conducive to corporate America’s agenda, you will find Movements.org supporting their efforts.
    The April 6 Movement of Egypt is one of them, and their role in the apparent success of the US ousting of Hosni Mubarak that may see their man Mohamed ElBaradei in office is a perfect example of how this new army of prodded youth will be deployed. It is color revolution 2.0, run directly out of the US State Department with the support of corporate America.
    It would be strongly recommended that readers go to Movements.org themselves and explore the website, in particular the 3 summits they have held and those that were in attendance. Everyone from the RAND Corporation to the Council on Foreign Relations comes to “prod.”
    Movements.org truly is a new tentacle for manipulating and undermining the sovereignty of foreign nations.

  • DaveH

    What is wrong with this picture? We anguish about Foreign countries whose choices are none of our business, while at the same time Muslims are pushing their unFree ways right here in our own country, like in Dearborn, Michigan:
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/is-this-america-christian-activists-arrested-in-dearborn.html

    • DaveH

      From my perspective, we have created our own energy shortages by allowing Government to meddle in our energy markets. Rather than whine about what other countries might do with their own oil, we need to concentrate on what we can do right here to increase our own oil production. Freeing ANWAR from the grips of Government and their ‘Green’ cronys would be a good start.

      • Ed H

        You are so right DaveH. We need to be drilling in ANWR and the Dakotas and lift the moratorium in the Gulf.

        • Richr

          You don’t seriously think the muslim will allow that ?

    • Lewis Munn

      Thanks, Dave H, for the Dearborne reference. Other channels I have mentioned the school systems were being purged of any Christian or other non-Islaamic influences of any sort.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thats because of political correctness, we arent allowed to say anything about blacks, hispanics or middle eastern terrorists. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton can yell and curse and call everyone from every race vile and racist names, and thats ok, but dont say a bad word about them, or your a racist. Illegal aliens flood in here, key word, illegal, and have fouled up budgets of states all over the country paying for the medical, housing, food and countless babies being born, but dont try to stop it, like Arizona has, your your a racist. And dont profile middle eastern terrorists who have been caught trying to kill us, and have vowed to kill us, because thats racist. Yet it is open season on Christians, Catholics and Jews. You can attack these 3 all you want, but dont you dare say a word about anyone else. Simply amazing.

  • WayneT

    February 16, 2011 at 5:57 am
    Here is some disturbing stats which has occurred between 2009 & 2011. Liberals, this has happened under your President, Nobama’s watch. Please take notice. This is what we folks with common sense have been telling you Liberals all along, but your just too stupid to get it. Nobama is ruining our country. The first number is what the price was in 2009, and the 2nd number reflects todays price. The 3rd number is the percntage of change in the incease over the last 2 years. The 4th is the source where this information had came from. Now Liberals, can you tell me that we are better off today than we were just two years ago? I don’t think so.

    Revelation of some very interesting numbers: CHANGE

    Two years ago today, Barack Obama was inaugurated as president of the United States . Are you better off today than you were two years ago? Numbers don’t lie, and here are the data on the impact he has had on the lives of Americans:

    January 2009
    TODAY
    % chg
    Source

    Avg. retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
    $1.83 Price in 2009
    $3.104 Price in 2011
    69.6% Change in pecent
    1 See source below

    Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
    $43.48 Price in 2009
    $99.02 Price in 2011
    127.7% Percentage increase
    2 See sourcd below

    Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
    $38.74 Price in 2009
    $91.38 Price in 2011
    135.9% Percntage increase
    2 See sourc below

    Gold: London (per troy oz.)
    $853.25 Price in 2009
    $1,369.50 Price in 2011
    60.5% Percentage increase
    2

    Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
    $3.56 Price in 2009
    $6.33 Price in 2011
    78.1% Percentage increase
    2 See sourc below

    Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
    $9.66 Price in 2009
    $13.75 Price in 2011
    42.3% Percent increase
    2 See source below

    Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. fob
    $13.37 Price in 2009
    $35.39 Price in 2011
    164.7% Percent increase
    2 See sourc below

    Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
    7.6% Unemployment in 2009
    9.4% Unmployment in 211
    23.7% Percent increase
    3 See source below

    Unemployment rate, blacks
    12.6% Unmployment for blacks in 2009
    15.8% Unemployment for black in 2011
    25.4% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Number of unemployed
    11,616,000 Number of unemplyed in 2009
    14,485,000 Number of unemployed in 2011
    24.7% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Number of fed. employees, ex. military (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    2,779,000 Number of Federal Employees in 2009
    2,840,000 Number of Federal Employees in 2011
    2.2% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Real median household income (2008 v 2009)
    $50,112 Medium household income in 2009
    $49,777 Medium hosehold income in 2011
    -0.7% Percent change
    4 See source below

    Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)
    31,983,716 Number of food stamps recipients in 2009
    43,200,878 Number of food stamps recipients in 2011
    35.1% Percent change
    5 See source below

    Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)
    7,526,598 (2009)
    9,193,838 (2011)
    22.2% (percent change)
    6 Source

    Number of long-term unemployed
    2,600,000 (2009)
    6,400,000 (2011)
    146.2% (percent change)
    3 See source below

    Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)
    13.2% (2009)
    14.3% (2011)
    8.3% (Percent change)
    4 See source below

    People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009)
    39,800,000 (2009)
    43,600,000 (2011)
    9.5% Percent change
    4 Source

    U.S. rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
    5 (2009
    9 (2011)
    n/a
    10 See source below

    Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)
    29.9 (2009)
    23.5 (2011)
    -21.4% Percent change
    11 See source below

    Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)
    140 (2009)
    164 (2011)
    17.1% (Percent change)
    12 See source below

    U.S. dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
    89.76 (2009)
    82.03 (2011)
    -8.6% Percent change
    2 See sourcd below

    U.S. money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    1,575.1 (2009)
    1,865.7 (2011)
    18.4% (percent change)
    13 See source below

    U.S. money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    8,310.9 (2009)
    8,852.3 (2011)
    6.5% Percent change
    13 See source below

    National debt, in trillions
    $10.627 (2009)
    $14.052 (2011)
    32.2% (Percent change)
    14 See source below

    Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast

    as during the rest of our entire nation’s history. Over 27 times as fast! Metaphorically, speaking, if you are driving

    n the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane 27 times faster . . . it would be doing

    1,755 MPH! This is a disaster!

    Sources:

    (1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau;

    (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage

    Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury

    • Oracle3

      The big winner here is energy companies. They get to use LIFO accounting…which means that if the world price goes up, they charge the new price without increasing their costs. Some “old oil” has a “lifting costa” of $8.00 to $9.00. They should be moved to a FIFO system where the cost of the resource has at least some influence on price. Their representatives say that they need the profits to fund exploration. I think that this is a something which needs thorough examination—unlikely given congressional ignorance and campaign funds.

    • Vigilant

      Charles,

      Your source was Dick Morris Reports. Please source the materials for our progressive doubters (although they probably won’t read anything counter to their Pollyanna view of Obama).

  • http://com i41

    Karolyn, MB is the mother group of Hamas, quoted from David Horwitz, with in a discussion with a mulism activitisy. Who’s mother is on the board of Ciaro, and how all the muslim groups are tied togetjer. There was 2 other poeple in the discussion and this muslim was raised in Kalifornia. If you would actually dig for information instead of listion or reading the WH media amd progressive liberial crap. How soros socialists can not see and read or understand the marxist muslim moron and all democraps can not see what is coming. Readd the Queeran and see how since pedophile Mohameed was! Also how muslism are told it OK to lie and scam non muslim, and if I remember you are a athetist, so you have been scammed.

    • karolyn

      I have read part of the Koran, i41 and also some writings about it. The main message of the Koran is to help others and to be honest upstanding citizens. Also, I am not an atheist but have a different view of God than Christians and Muslims do.

      • c.lynn

        You might have read the water down version of the Quran. Much of it was changed to make it more palpable to unsuspecting English speaking possible converts. see the accurate translation http://www.thestraightway.org/Quran.asp

      • Lewis Munn

        Karolyn,

        So strange. I was in a discussion with a convinced Islaamic person, actually on science, and not only is their science in basic opposition in many places to the West’s science, but I ran into the repeated orders to kill all those who cannot be converted or enslaved. Over and Over.

        I had a friend, a Muslim by family tradition, and her Qur’an said the same things. But every year she almost kills herself with fasting and so on and trying to keep the busy pace of a Westernized office!

        I wonder if you have actually gotten a full Qur’an, and read it carefully. The one I bought, and my friend’s, both read the same way!

        • Lastmanstanding

          Lewis. You get a gold star!!! If you are not a muslim, you must die is the main point in the Koran. (My spelling) Not to mention the sharia crap. We need to nip this multi-culturalism bs in the bud now!

          The Brits and even the wussy french are crying about it. The intent of radical muslims is to kill us. Isn’t it amazing that suddenly, they are all over the world in country after country starting revolutions. They are just getting started.

      • Rose

        Having also read the Qu’ran, you must have just skipped over the obvious “kill anyone who is not a member of Islam” which is very clearly stated therein. Yes, their stated purpose is supposedly to help others, but it is actually the way they help themselves. From day one of founding, their cult leader fought (and the women did too) and have continued to fight. My feeling is sad that Spain doesn’t have the leadership to overcome Islam again, and Europe is lost to them as well. If you don’t value what America’s founding fathers set up for us, I invite you and others to migrate to those “wonderful Islam-helping countries” today. I prefer to help myself as a Constitutional American and thereby help everyone with my efforts. Please reread the Qu’ran again and be truly informed. (Don’t read the shortened version, but the whole and complete version if you really want to know the truth of the cult (it is not a religion of any sort, no matter what they say – I see them related to Jones and his milieu.))

        • Sonja

          I AGREE WITH YOU, ALSO, I HAVE ALWAYS STATED THAT OBUMMER IS EXACTLY LIKE “JIM JONES” LEADING HIS FOLLOWERS TO THEIR DEATH.

          • Vigilant

            That only applies to the Kool Aid drinkers on the left.

  • Osher Doctorow Ph.D.

    Excellent article by John Myers. I would add additional reasons including distracting the USA opposition to Obama, defusing that opposition, even confusing the opposition, building Obummer’s reputation by “showing him as making Democracy Revolutions” (as misinterpreted by his News Mafia) for the November 2012 Election. In addition, Obummer is only the tip of the iceberg that is the Liberal Billionaire-Govt Frankenstein alliance (BGFA for short) and which, although very deeply into oil and also gold and staple foods as well as staple drinks, is never seriously endangered by oil events since everybody except the Public knows who the real Power Behind the Throne is.

    Osher Doctorow

  • thewhitewolf

    If you TRUE American fighting patriots don’t get organized, quickly ! expect to fall under the knife. NO more time for debate, NO more time for talk, NO more time for inaction. Respond to me any and all interested parties who wish to stand toe-to-toe in defense of this great nation. WE THE PEOPLE own this country, by devine providence it is our right to occupy this land. The Order of The White Wolf awaits all men of courage, moral accountability, and the strength to follow through. Your children and grandchildren will hail you as heroes as we set the perverse country straight once again.

    • Vigilant

      WACKO ALERT, everyone.

      Here’s what the OWW webpage says: “The order is formed to be a media for independent satanists that wish to learn more about satanism and/or magick. The order will therefor accept anyone that considers him/herself to be a satanist and can contribute something.”

      Takes all kinds, I guess, but there are some we could well do without.

  • ruth

    Wonderful article.. At last someone who sees the real truth about BO..
    He is also behind the unrest in Egypt… His legions caused it… Bill Ayers, Jodie Evans and code pink visited Egypt about a half a dozen times last year…
    And the betrayal plot thickens.. Last year the Gulf oil disaster which I think was a deliberate act caused all drilling in the Gulf to cease despite the judge’s orders that it resume…Put that together with the left’s refusal to drill for oil in all of USA and loss of Oil from Saudi because of the Suez Canal and it will cause disaster in USA…
    I also think the domino effect in the middle east is orchestrated by Obama and Co….He has called himself world president from the beginning..All he needed was for muslims in the world to be able to vote… America and the world is in serious trouble…designed by Obama and allah….

  • Tazio2013

    For those few PLD readers who have “eyes to see, ears to hear and can understand what is meant by “Hegelian dialectic” and “objective reality” and can handle an alternative, knowledgeable POV:

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1756/Elites-Set-Orwellian-War-Against-China-And-Islam.html

  • ruth

    Muslims showed their true religion when they gang raped and beat the AMerican jouralist last Friday in Egypt.. I do not normally ask God for vengence, though in this case it would be justice….for those slimy excuses of men but I hope God sends them to the hell they belong in and remind them it is justice for the reporter….Just think, America is being flooded with these peaceful rapist murderers…Annie get you gun…

    • Another Voice

      Rape is no more the Muslims’ “true religion” than sodomy is the Christians’ “true religion.” There are thugs and perverts in both camps.

      • JC

        So what’s your point? That it’s ok?

        • Another Voice

          My point is that it is stupid to make a generalization like that.

          • Lewis Munn

            Read the Qur’an on morality, and conduct with women. Read the Christian Bible on the same subjects.

            See any differences? If not perhaps you need to get a real Bible and a real Qur’an!

            Or, take courses in how to read!

          • JC

            Well, Ok Then…
            Quite specifically: Sharia Law is barbaric and so are the kind of people it breeds. That,and it relegates women to the status of herd animal.
            You ok with that Mr. Voice?

          • karolyn

            The Koran does not advocate rape. It does advocate, as does the Bible, the submission of women.

          • 45caliber

            Karolyn:

            It does advocate submission of women in both books. But …

            Neither the Bible nor the Christian religion advocates raping a woman who is walking down the street without a male guardian. Islam does – whether it is in the Koran or not. Neither the Bible nor the Christian religion advocates punishment of males for a crime by raping their sister, etc. Islam does.

          • Kate8

            karolyn – In Islam, if a woman is raped, she is blamed for it and not the males. She is also considered worthless, and if she is not killed, she is thrown into the streets.

          • JC

            Here ya go Karolyn…and on American soil too.

            A New Jersey family court judge’s decision not to grant a restraining order to a woman who was sexually abused by her Moroccan husband and forced repeatedly to have sex with him is sounding the alarm for advocates of laws designed to ban Shariah in America.

            Judge Joseph Charles, in denying the restraining order to the woman after her divorce, ruled that her ex-husband felt he had behaved according to his Muslim beliefs — and that he did not have “criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault” his wife…

            “However, a husband was forbidden to approach his wife ‘like any animal.’ … he acknowledged that New Jersey law considered coerced sex between married people to be rape.”

            http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/08/05/advocates-anti-shariah-measures-alarmed-judges-ruling/

          • JC

            And Saudi courts have convicted women of “being raped” and apparently part of the punishment for being raped is…being raped.
            Now you’ll ask me to back that up right?
            No time right now, but I intend to dig up the article. It’s about two years old and I’ll have to do some hunting.

  • Eric Bischoff

    I am sorry Mr Myers I disagree with you.
    You say:
    ” The extremists may soon hold the reins in Egypt. Islam marches forward while former President [ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/hosni-mubarak ]Hosni Mubarak is in hiding.”

    As usual you are spreading conservative paranoiac unfounded fear. You just can’t face the fact that these Arabs are going to figure it out on their own and they may actually get it right. And the reason they will probably succeed where we have miserable failed is that, unlike us, they are a young and highly educated multi lingual society hungry for something better. You are wrong, the Muslim brotherhood will not rule that country, they will merely provide their valid viewpoint as members of that society who, while the rich and powerful were robbing the country blind and oppressing the ciizens, were providing charitable services.

    I will add that I think the only way they can fail is if western governments keep covertly meddling in their sovereign affairs.

    • Jeep

      Sure, MB’s “valid viewpoint”, such as the assassination of al-Sadat. Which, of course, brought Mubarak to power.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      Imagine that, you disagree…..

    • Daughter of Scotland

      Already, the Muslim Brotherhood is forming as a political party which will be part of a newly formed government……Just watch….Iran 1979 all over again.

    • Delores Smith

      ERIC BISCHOFF,
      Obama sent invitations to the Muslim Brotherhood to hear his talk in Cairo, and they attended. Obama has stated several times that “all factions of people must be included in the new government of Egypt.” Obama means..”The Muslim Brotherhood.” Obama has become delusional…he thinks he owns Egypt..but his friendship with the Brotherhood won’t help him. How dare you tell John Myers that he doesn’t know what he is talking about? John Myers has every truth down pat. Eric, it was the Muslim Brotherhood that stirred up the protests in Egypt and other Muslim countries. Don’t look now, but you are seeing the New World Order (which should be renamed the New World Disorder). Obama and Soros are SO transparent. The government of Egypt could not understand why Obama was not working in the best intesests of America. They purchased 20 copies of Manchurian President by Aaron Klein. Buy a copy for yourself or go to the library and learn.
      Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

      • Eric Bischoff

        Sorry Delores you are the one who is misinformed and paranoid.

        This for once was a real grass roots uprising. The MB was just as surprised and unprepared as were most western governments who are complicit and partly responsible for supporting a dictator for 30 years mainly because he would do what we wanted in respect to Israel as long as we kept giving him $2B/year in aid for weaponry. This was bound to backfire some day and it did.

  • Don Ror

    Barack Hussein Obama was born a Muslim and has never renounced his Islamic religion. Virtually everything Obama has done since becoming president has been designed to assist the Muslim destruction of the United States and protect his Muslim brothers at every opportunity.
    Americans may be too ignorant to grasp what is happening so they will never be able to react with force of arms to remove Obama and save America from becoming a slave to Islam.
    Muslims engineered and carried out 9/11 which should be sufficient to wake America from its sleep, but that was not to be. Even the idiot Bush tip-toed around in Mosques kowtowing to Islamic thugs and then announcing on national TV that Islam is a “peaceful” religion. Only the insane and totally ignorant could fall for that Bush nonsense.
    Better wake up America!

    • Wake Up

      Don, Of course you have proof that Obama was born a muslim, right?

      Must be nice to think you are the smartest person in the room and have all the answers……………Wrong!

      Prove your remarks.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Wakeup_-Disprove yours?!!

        • Wake Up

          I did not make a claim. You are like all the others that believe this nonsence. You’re narrow minded and just believe what others think witthout any proof and hope hope if you say it long and loud enough it will stick.

          Personally, I think for those of you that believe this crap, is the new n word, in saying he is a muslin your really saying he is a N.

          Besides, religion is man made, it’s all about power, control and money. Who started all these various religions………….man. You don’t need to go to a building to worship god. In the beginning, weren’t the converts just called christians. Religion is bullshit, a cruch. Faith is something else.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Wake up, I hope ya feel better after venting,_-Now in regards to your post, __I would assume You happen to be a man if not then at least human, and since man created everything and is causing all the problems, why then_ would I listen to you?___

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Karolyn,
    Whats wrong with you people? Do you and the rest of the Left have one track minds.Did you ever try to find out the real truth? Do you think these people ( Muslin Brotherhood ) are going to come out and talk
    violent. They know that dosen`t work.They know what the people want
    to hear.When they have taken over,only then, will you see just how
    violent they are. I don`t care if they speak English or puta-puta.
    Just look at the groups they back,Humas for one.There are to many
    terror groups to mention.You can find out who they are if you do your homework. I`m not going to do it for you, because you would`nt believe
    me anyway.

  • ruth

    As for the koran the very first sentence identifies who allah is…It says allah is the god of the worlds…Note it says worlds plural..Allah is the ancient astrology god named sin, aka satan, who was the god of the astrlogy worlds and king over all the astrology gods…His name was allah in Arabia…Mohammed dubbed him the God of Abraham.. but Mohammed was a liar, not a prophet…
    Anyone who thinks god is a liar and a killer like the allah beast does not know anything about god…Anyone who thinks mohammed was a prophet knows nothing about the bible…
    Allah is also apparently schiatophrenic…He says in the koran kill,then he says don’t kill…He says Don’t lie but deceive unbeleivers,,, etc..

    • Wake Up

      Ruth, I was raise in a catholic family and began to question my religion when the nuns told us to bring our non-catholic friends to mass but don’t you dare go to theirs. Religions are crap…man made. The bible was written by man, supposedly inspired by god. where is the proof? It’s not that i don’t believe in a higher being. If there is only one God, what’s with all the man made religious sects? Anyone can become a minister and start a church. Why do you think there are so many churches, could it all be about money, power and control?

      One God one religious belief.

      • S.C.Murf

        Careful wake-up, satan is a higher power. If you are going to pray to God then you had better call Him by his rightful name Yahweh, the living God.

        up the hill
        airborne

    • karolyn

      Well, Ruth, dd you know that the story of Christ’s birth was copied from writings made centuries before his birth about previous holy births? I don’t have the info here, but I do have it at home and can back it up later if you want. Why is it that Christians have no answers to these phenomena?

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Karolyn,

        Tell Ruth the Bible itself is a plagiarize verison of pagan myths.
        Here is a few.

        1:Creation Myth: Babylon
        2:The flood myth: Greek myth,Egyptian myth and Mesopotamian myth,not counting others.
        3: Battle of Jericho: Greek Trogan war
        4:The story of David;Egyptian
        5:Psalms 23;Egyptian
        6 Crucifixtion myth.Over a one hundred pagan sources.

        This is just few.

        “The Bible story of Jesus is a contradictory and confusing account. The Bible shows that this Jesus fellow spoke and taught many absurd and foolish things, and often believed he was having a conversation with devils. If one will read the entire Bible, one will find tales of ignorance, murder, sexual perversions, mass insanity, idiotic laws, and even cannibalism and human sacrifice. It staggers the imagination how anyone in his right mind could read the Bible and believe that it was written by a wise, just, and loving god. Christians have found biblical scriptures telling them to burn people at the stake, to justify slavery, to oppress and persecute others, and to kill and commit war in the name of their God. Unfortunately, there are some even today who would have us return to the teachings and laws found in the Bible”. American Atheist

        Read more: http://meta-religion.com/World_Religions/Christianity/Articles/Critic_alternative/bible_jesus_myth.htm#ixzz1Ehjz3KpP

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          I meant here are a few

  • Sam

    The goal is Ialamic domination of North Africa and the Middle East. As long as Mubarak, corrupt as he was, took our billions and kept the radical Muslims in check the Suez was safe and his neighbors were secure. Once Obama turned his back on Israel the tide turned and his lack of action when Egypt needed help was the green light for the Islamists to take all of North Africa. A repeat of President Carter’s give away Of Iran. They hide under various names and make multiple claims, but the goal is always the same.

  • http://comcast.net Mary Taylor

    I am sure you have said the truth in this message.We have a President who is not what he says he is,and America is going to pay dearly for his actions.We have always been a great and Godly nation.It is slipping away quickly. I am amazed that more people can’t see what is happening. Thank you for writing your articles.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    The real Obama lovers can`t see two feet in front of them.Thank God,
    people are starting to wake up to Obama and what he stands up for.
    The election of 2010 showed this.Some people will never learn.If he told them it was dark outside at high noon, they would believe him.
    What realy hurts Obama and the Muslin Brotherwood, is who they surround themselves with. This dictates what they think and what their policies are. They don`t really have to do the dirty work most of the time.They,( Obama and the MB ) can spend their time trying
    to smooth talk the people, while the people working for them do the
    dirty work. They spin their polices altogether different from what
    they are really up to.

  • Ron

    Mr. John, So happy; in fact elated that finally the truth is out! I have waited and tried to write that this leopard cannot change his spots! As I watched this unfold I marveled at the media and the democrats at their total ignorance! Gross stupidity! Are the mines in such a mundane set that they don’t realize that if this keeps up the very same thing could happen in America and these idiots would not be spared! Someone I was listening to spoke of Obama calling up a paramilitary army, his army, given to him in Obamacare, to stop any civil disturbance and I think that army would be made up of UN soldiers who are against America one way or another! And I see him now speaking of democracy when he is want to be a world leader of the Muslim world! And NO ONE IN CONGRESS IS SAYING A DAMNED WORD!

    I hope people will read what you have written! God help us and that is the final upper hand. We who know Jesus will be spared but I care for all Americans! I will pray that God will let us have a great revival and wake the people up!

  • Dennis

    The Muslim Brotherhood has only ONE goal in mind. It is the same as the ONE and only goal of Islam. That is to perform Jihad on the entire world, drag it into the religion of Islam and install Sharia Law as the world’s governing law. Additionally, Islam is not a peaceful religion. Men are allowed free reign to murder and rape their daughters. That does not sound peaceful to me. Finally, when is someone going to actually say the truth about Obama. His cards have been on the table for quite some time now. It should be obvious that he is a Muslim, and all of his actions to date are his own personal Jihad on the United States. ALL of his actions are designed to destroy our Constitution and our beloved country. The USA is in the middle of a Coup and we are being taken over without one shot being fired, just like Nikita Khrushchev said they would do when he declared “We will bury you!” 99% of the public is going about their daily business and have not one clue about what is happening right now. By the time they figure it out it will be way too late.

    • Carlucci

      Exactly – ! I think everything that is transpiring now has been orchestrated behind the scenes for years. Think about it. Obama came out of nowhere. Nobody had ever really heard of him before. All of his records have been sealed. He is like the wolf in sheep’s clothing – pretending to be something that he’s not. His name is Islamic. If he looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, he’s a MUSLIM.

      As far as what is happening in Egypt, this is also part of the big plan. I have been there. Like the article states, if the Suez canal is taken over and shut down by the Muslim Brotherhood in order to stop oil exportation, the world is screwed. We all will be reduced to riding bicycles. The tree huggers will love that.

      • 45caliber

        It might affect Europe some but not the US. Supertankers are too large to go through the Suez Canal. Most European oil is pumped through Jordan to ships already in the Meditteraenian (sp) Sea. The Suez is used mainly to ship finished goods and food.

    • Sam

      You are correct Dennis. I am certain that each and every day Obama must think, “I never dreaned it would be so easy…”

  • Rosemary W

    karolyn- Google Taquiyya

  • JC

    Is Barack Obama The Manchurian Candidate For The Muslim Brotherhood?

    Damned straight he is! He’s sure as hell not a Patriotic American.

    “The sweetest sound in the world is the call of the Minaret
    Barack Hussein Obama

  • jvr

    Karolyn, I admire you for standing your ground against an onslaught of poorly reasoned attacks from all sides. I don’t know how all these people became such experts on everything. It appears that the Muslim Brotherhood played only a small role in the recent events. I don’t dispute that it involves radical, extremist and anti-American elements, but it does not appear to be as one-dimensional as many here argue. I’d like to know the sources of all this definitive information.

    I also agree with Eric who seems to at least be trying to keep up with news and recent events and not just repeating platitudes.

    Jeremy’s comment is also well reasoned.

    As for most of the rest I guess the kool aid must be really good. It seems typical of repeating over and over unsubstantiated statements and urban legends and hoping if repeated loudly and often others will believe. The article and most of the comments are delusional.

    • JC

      Thank you for passing judgement on us all…like the arrogant Liberal Parasite you are. Now GFY. :)

    • S.C.Murf

      You are just one more in a long line of people that need to make that popping sound. Look at history and see what they have done, the comment earlier about leopards not changing their spots,right on the mark. Wake up people!!!!

  • http://none Jay Lindberg

    All wars are based on economics and the first casualty of war is the truth.

    I believe that Egypt is on the verge of a real civil war or revolution, not because of the MB (Muslim Brotherhood) but because of the shrinkiing middle class and the no way out reality.

    This is an economy based movement. One that will probably rear its head in America as well. The first attempt in America was our tea party rebellion. When the Tea Party is shown to have failed, the next one will more than likely take on a more violent model, just like in Egypt.

    The more I learn about the government in Egypt and America, the more I appreciate the French Revolution.

    • Lewis Munn

      Jay, should we cut Obama’s head off as part of a French Revolution copy, to get our freedom back?

      • 45caliber

        The problem with the French Revolution is that they started with the bad people in charge. As a result, while they got rid of some of the bad people, they also got rid of a lot of good ones. Later, when the people wised up, they got rid of the ones who started that mess.

        The problem is that when people get started on something like that, they tend to end up going overboard and trying to take care of a lot of personal problems too. That is what I’m afraid may happen in the US if we aren’t careful.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    As for who Mohammed was . He was nothing but a human who led a large
    Muslin army who tried to spread Islam through out the world by force.He was stoped at the gates of Venina by the French and defeated.Ruth has it right, he was not a prophet, he did convince
    the Muslim world that he was. They will be stoped again, either by
    us humans or GOD or by us with Gods help. Obama should get down on
    his knees and thank him that we are a civilized nation.As we find out more about him, we will vote him out in 2012 and we will stop the spread of Islam.

    • karolyn

      How do you know he wasn’t a prophet?

      • 45caliber

        karolyn:

        How do you define a prophet? To me, he must be telling about things that will happen in the future – and be right. So far I’ve not seen any of that nor have I heard anyone else state that. But I’ve not read all his writings so perhaps I’ve missed some.

        • Karolyn

          A prophet is someone who carries the word of God as revealed to him by God.

  • http://www.spiritjewelry.info RevSuzanne

    Okay… the “Muslim Brotherhood” is a creation of British Intelligence and the CIA created Al Quaida. Both CIA and MI6 are working for the “fat controllers”… the Bilderbergs, IMF, Rothschields, etc. Most of our presidents are also working for them.
    Obama is a front-man puppet set to finish the job that the two Bushs, Nixon, Carter and Clinton have been carrying out in steps: the destruction of America. The goal is to transfer all of America’s industrial base to China. The Rockefellers and all those other Bilderbergs are now officing and living in China.

    The Middle East is a distraction from what is going on in China and Russia. Our inflation in the US has made consumer prices spike, which makes things that much worse for people subsisting on $2 a day whose main grocery purchase is a bag of wheat. The “fat controllers” pulling the strings saw the revolution coming and did a little front-running to use the opportunity to install their own puppets.

    • Teresa

      YOU GOT IT!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Exactly. So many people do not understand the underlying current of power & corruption.

    • karolyn

      As we speak, food is going up because of the extreme weather conditions the world faced over this winter.

      • 45caliber

        Yes it is. Are you saying that we should ignore all the other reasons, though?

  • BLUEEYESOL

    Obama and his past has been so whitewashed and overlooked that people don’t realize who this man really is and what he is doing to our country and around the world! So,, here it is in his own words from his book!

    Remember this quote From Audacity of Hope: ‘ I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’

    This has to be the most anti-American president in the history of our country, and yet he still gets support from a large sector of our country. I think most of these supporters are deceived and ignorant or asleep, though some are just anti-American enough to follow him.

    They do not love the country they are in and instead of moving out, they prefer to use our own laws against us to pervert an overthrow from within with activist judges and greedy politicians.

    Please God, help us!

    • WayneT

      Maybe the people who are supporting him are either Musims, or Communist. Any person in their right mind can see what Nobama is doing. I don’t have any use for him.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jvr,
    We do our homework,which you apparently didn`t do. You left wing loons
    never do. Do your homework before you shoot your mouth off and
    maybe people will listen to you. You better see who your buddy Obama has as his advisors and friends and see what they stand for.

    • Another Voice

      Maybe you should do YOUR homework. Obama’s new advisors are pro-business guys now.

      • JC

        Meaning what exactly?
        Again, what’s your point?

      • 45caliber

        Really? What makes you think they are pro-business? I’ve not seen any sign of it …

      • Sam

        If they were they would not be working for BHO.

  • http://www.mitchmathias@att.net mitchmathias

    it is always interesting to see what the extremists think thanks for enlightening me but you are adding 1 and 2 together to get 7

  • Bitter Libertarian

    How about the price of oil has to do with Saudi Arabia overstating the Gwuan oil field by 40%, (in 2003 Mike Rupert reported his fact)There are other overstated and drying oil fields around the world that are a more legitimate reason for the price of Oil going up. In addition to OIL being priced in DOLLARS and as dollars lowering in value it takes MORE DOLLARS to pay the average basket currency price!

    As far as the Boogy men Muslims, they do not want the US, there are far easier, less poluuted lands available. While I dont doubt that there are Bad evil Muslims who are terrorists, the actual % is no more then the normal nutty % of any race, religion or sect.

    People need to not live in FEAR of the Muslims, for Thousands of years they NEVER screwed with people outside their own lands…Until Occupiers & Invaders starting to…Listen to Ron Paul on this topic and learn the facts.

    • 45caliber

      I think very few people who are not Islamic actually FEAR the Muslims. It is more about being careful around them and not liking the idea of forced conversion to their religion.

      Now if you are talking about the fear Muslims have for the Muslims, then you will find most fear them.

  • Irene

    I have read all of your comments and most of it is true to what is going on except we have those who do not understand Revelations and need to read our own BIBLE to figure out who is the Anti-Christ. Then when you figure that out, you will understand what is going on in our world today and you will want to gather together and form and alliance agaist the Anti-Christ. Yes, the people need to wake up and start understanding what is going on and who to believe and not believe. If you do not understand your own GOD you will not understand ALLAH and the Quran. You will be lost in your own world. So you have a choice “READ YOUR AMERICAN BIBLE”. Then and only then will you understand who GOD is and what we should believe in. AMEN

    • Kinetic1

      Irene,
      I need to read my “American Bible”? Really? The story of the Bible takes place in the middle East, the religion of the Bible grows throughout Europe, the word is brought to America by Spaniards and Germans and English alike, and you proclaim the truth to be “your American Bible”? Can you not see why people like you have no credibility left?

      • karolyn

        Good one!

        • Sam

          It was? What did he say?

  • jopa

    Fact of facts;The conservative religious zealots of the Muslim Brotherhood have no desire to run Egypt and it was the people of Egypt that wanted Mubarack to step down not just the MB.However this isn’t very scary so you may have to go with the article above and buy some crackers or is it keep some powder dry.

    • JC

      I think it’s actually, “Keep waving your Obama Button”
      (and hold still);)

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Hey now…I keep quite a bit of powder dry, but its not out of concern for Egypt, muslims, or terrorists. Its the Goosestepping neo-Cons, and communists I watch out for. Them & the Kool aide pushers :)

      • Dale on the left coast

        Hey Bit . . . . 4 out of 5 Egyptians believe in Sharia Mooslem Law . . . . they will be easy pickins for the MB. Izzzlam is not a religion . . . it is a political movement, everywhere it has gone in the world for the last 13 hundred hears it has caused trouble.

        Didn’t the chosen “Won” say “My muzzlim faith” when interviewed a couple of years ago??

        • karolyn

          Actually, Islam IS a religion and fits into the parameters of the many definitions of that word. (Can you guess I’m studying religion now?) :-)

        • karolyn

          Did he say that? Can you elaborate? Cite?

          • JeffH

            Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics
            The three words-“my Muslim faith”-were during an exchange with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week,” when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim.

            The Washington Times-Sunday, September 7, 2008

  • Carol

    How come I knew about all of this before he even got close to Our White House and no one whould listen.

    I knew that he was raised in Indonesia and he was born in Kenya and still nobody would listen and all of the people I knew I would tell them and they would call me a liar and I lost a lot of friends over it all of us have to get together and get him out of Our White House TODAY because he will distroy everybodies way of life.

    He is liar and cheat he was a drug user and seller in his younger life and they will do anything to anybody to get what he wants no matter what it might be.

    Didn’t anyone see the interviews with two (2) girls that were desperately afraid to even think the could become President because of what he would do to anyone who would not go along with what he wanted done because that what he would do when he was drug dealing and and selling drugs in his home when he was in high school?

    I just don’t get it how all of these people who voted for him didn’t know his background and know that he wasn’t An American I just don’t get it at all.

    MAY GOD BLESS AND HELP US TO STAY SAFE FROM THIS MAN NOW AND FOR ALL TIME AS I AM SURE HE WILL!!!

    • JC

      Just goes to show how perverse the White House has become.

    • WayneT

      Carol, I am with you all the way. I feel the same way as you do. I don’t understand why it is so far for people not to see what Nobama really is. He is tearing this country apart and a few people can’t see this. I have this within my on family. They just can’t seems to comprenend, or they refuse to do so. It is really sad.

      • karolyn

        Wayne – I think there are more than a “few” people who do not believe Obama is trying to destroy the country. Actually, I do believe you’re outnumbered. Even with those who do not support him, I would think the numbers who think he’s out to destroy the country are not high. Of course there are no stats to support my assertion, jut common sense and talking to the man on the street.

        • JC

          You may be right…which only goes to show how uninformed people are.

        • Sam

          Read Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals”, it might change your mind. Obama is his most famous follower and Hillary admired him so much she wrote senior thesis about him.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Because Americans, Both sides of the aisle, have chosen to be loyal to their stupid political parties over loyalty to the Constitution. They choose to believe the hype from GW Bush and his” you are either with us or with the terrorists” garbage…Because they believe what Morons like Bill ORielly say about Conspiracy Theories, and they believe if it doesnt come from Mainstream media its not true.

      They have sold their freedom for security and now have neither….

      Obama is just a symptom of a deeper lying problem.

  • JeffH

    The historical precedent for Obama’s actions can be found in those of another weak liberal Democratic president, Jimmy Carter. In the late 1970s, the Shah of Iran ruled that country in much the same way Hosni Mubarak has ruled Egypt, through maintaining tight control over the population with a strong military and the support of the United States. When Carter withdrew his support of the Shah in the name of “human rights,” he enabled the Ayatollah Khomeini to return to Iran from his exile in Paris and assume leadership of the country.

    It looks very much like Obama is following directly in Carter’s footsteps. The problem is that the situation is much more serious today than it was 30 years ago. Blame that on Jimmy Carter.

    Since the 9/11 attacks on the United States, the left in America has come out on the side of Islamist radicals. They cheered as the Twin Towers fell and American lives were lost. With the election of one of their own as president of the United States, the left moved even closer to realizing its aim of bringing down our country.

    It is not out of the question that Barack Obama is actually working to insure that our allies in the Middle East, including Egypt and Jordan, follow in the footsteps of Iran in installing a radical Islamist government. It is not out of the question that Obama seeks the demise of our staunchest ally, Israel.

    What is becoming clear is that, like Jimmy Carter, Obama is on the side of Islamist radicals. When Iranian students staged an uprising after the rigged elections in that country insured that the totalitarian government of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would remain in power, Obama was on vacation in Hawaii and treated the Iranian insurrection as nothing more than a nuisance. Instead of intervening and speaking out strongly in favor of the students and the overthrow of a truly heinous enemy regime, Obama declined to take sides, saying “it is up to Iranians to decide who Iran’s leaders will be.” By not speaking out and taking the lead in denouncing the Iranian regime, Obama revealed where his sympathies lay.

    Less than two years later, the Cairo insurrection against one of America’s staunchest allies, Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, provided Obama with another chance to speak out against Islamist radicalism. Instead he’s again waffled and backtracked and stabbed Mubarak in the back by demanding that the Egyptian president step down immediately.

    After watching silently for several days as demonstrators overran the streets of Cairo, Obama did what he would not do in the Iranian situation: He said that Mubarak must step down immediately in order to pave the way for “free” elections.

    But as it turns out, it’s not quite as simple as that. Obama’s words to the contrary, it’s highly likely that our president had a strong hand in bringing about the riots in Egypt. Beyond that, he was aided and abetted by the very man who engineered the financial meltdown that enabled Obama to get elected in the first place: George Soros.

    The U.S. knew as early as December, 2008, that groups opposed to the Mubarak regime were already developing a plan to overthrow the Egyptian government. According to documents exposed by WikiLeaks, U.S. Ambassador to Egypt Margaret Scobey was aware of the plans of the Mubarak opposition group. Leaked documents also show that while the United States publicly supported the Mubarak government, U.S. Embassy officials continued to communicate with the activist in question throughout 2008 and 2009.

    When you try to establish a democracy in the Middle East, Islamist radicals move in and take over. It’s exactly what happened in Gaza. In the elections of 2005, the terrorist group Hamas was the big winner over Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah Party. By 2007, Hamas had drive the Fatah Party out of Gaza. And when Abbas, still the nominal president of Gaza, called for elections in January of 2009, Hamas said that anyone who participated in the election would be “dealt with by the [Hamas] ministry or by other means.” In other words, if you vote you die.

    One of the key figures in opposition to Mubarak is Mohamed AlBaradei. He’s the former International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director. In that capacity, he whitewashed Iran’s nuclear energy program, essentially saying that Ahmadinehad was not pursuing nuclear weapons when it’s clear to everyone that he is. AlBaradei, given the fact that he looked the other way when inspecting Iran’s nuclear facilities, is very likely a puppet of the Iranian regime. In April, 2009, AlBaradei told the press that “more U.S. engagement with Tehran’s leaders would increase regional security.”

    It’s no coincidence that AlBaradei showed up in Cairo only two days after the uprising began and was immediately named a negotiator by the Muslim Brotherhood. He’s on the board of an organization headed by George Soros and Zbigniew Brzezinski called International Crisis Group. Brzezinski is the same man who supervised the fall of the Shah of Iran in 1979.

    Another board member of the Soros ICC is one Javier Solana. Solana is one of the most powerful figures in the “European Union”. Because of his Marxist sympathies and his support for the regime of Cuba’s Fidel Castro, Solana was once on the USA’s subversive list.

    Soros continues to exert a strong influence on the policies and pronouncements of Barak Obama and his administration. His influence includes promoting the Muslim Brotherhood to a position of power in Egypt. To that end, Frank Wisner, a former U.S. ambassador to Egypt, met secretly with Issam El-Erian, a senior leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, at the Obama administration’s request. The purpose of the meeting was to discuss the fate of Egypt after Mubarak was deposed.5 It is also reported that Obama himself met with members of the Muslim brotherhood in 2009.

    The situation is ripe for Islamist terrorist organizations to move in and take control of the Middle East. And Obama is their enabler. He is the epitome of a weak liberal president. He mouths utopian leftist platitudes while the governments of our allies in the Middle East are challenged. Obama actually said the Muslim Brotherhood “must reject violence and recognize democratic goals”.

    It is just possible that, if the military is able to retain power and if Suleiman is able to take over from Mubarak, that the Middle East can retain its precarious balance. But don’t look to Barak Obama for help.
    http://www.tldm.org/News15/ShadowSocialistGroupBehindEgyptsFall.htm

  • jopa

    Jeffh: You were wondering why the journalists were being attacked.The rioters attacking the journalists were pro-Mubarack and didn’ want the story out.

    • JeffH

      Thanks jopa, I am well aware of that!

      My point is that radical factions like the MB or Hamas are more than capable of “posing” as Mubarak supporters just as the leftist radicals like Code Pink have done here in the States to undermine the Tea Party’s reputation.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Another Voice,
    Are you so nieve you believe this? You better check to see where
    his old advisors are? They are still in Washington and working for Obama through goverment or left wing groups supported by George Soros.
    Find out where they are ( Valerie Jarett, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Saul Alansky,
    Cass Sestein, Jeff Jones, Andy Stern, Anita Dunn ) and what they stand for. Obama ,had to do something to make himself look legit
    in the eyes of the American people.As for his new advisors,they think
    they are going to have a high place in Obamas world.I think the CEO of
    GE are one of these people.He was doing business with Iran when American CO. wern`t suppose to. Obama is trying to keep a low profile
    on these people, hopping we forget about them.These are just a few of
    them, there are many,many more. Obama is a Marxist and thats all there
    is to it.

  • Jean

    The agenda of this administration has not wavered since Obama’s running for office.The intent is a “one world order” which is socialization. There is NOTHING naive about Obama. He was very clear in what he planned to do but too many only heard what they wanted to hear…and many still do. People who were “naive” have learned. Those who haven’t either have had their brain fried on drugs or refuse to educate themself to facts. Neither are capable of thinking for themself, because they’ve been taught not to.

    Obama didn’t just fall out of the sky in ’08..much effort and money went into putting him in office. He was very carefully chosen and trained as the front person and he plays the part well.

    Is Barack Obama The Manchurian Candidate For The Muslim Brotherhood?
    I believe so…and I believe that we will begin to see a much stronger movement up to the 2012 elections…we must become more vigilant, he is known by his actions, his words will deceive many. They’ve come too far the past two years to lay back now, every effort will be made to bring their sheep into the fold. He may call himself a “citizen of the world”… but I’m an American Citizen, my flag is the American flag and I make no apologies for it!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Even if your right, and Obama is a mac candidate for the MB..Americans put him there. How exactly do you plan on educating America enough to boot him out and put in a candidate who will restore Freedom & Liberty??? Americans werent smart enough and voted in another round of Neocons who will continue the Patriot ACT! Theres a Brilliant decision…

  • AMJ

    In all the debate, I’d like to know why Hellery Rotten Clinton, Sec. of State, is left out. Shouldn’t she shoulder a huge part of the blame here also?

    • JeffH

      It seems as if the POTUS and Hillary have differing ideas in all of this.

      • chuckb

        yeah jeffh, they both have different ideas, one is the president and seems to want this country living under the sharia law, while the other (hillary) wants to be president and have the country living under the marxist plan.

        • JeffH

          chuckb, both of which I’ll do my damnest to make sure it don’t happen.

    • 45caliber

      Hillary is a good little Democrat and keeps her mouth closed. (Well, most of the time. They have had to appologize for some of her remarks several times when they disagree with what the President wants.) She intends to run for President and doesn’t want to stir up trouble. The one argument that many had about her being President was a lack of foreign contacts. That is what she is trying to cover now.

      And I wouldn’t trust her as far as I can throw her.

  • maria linde

    Yes, Obama is a Muslim and he is a puppet of the “Brotherhood”. Theree should be a legal process against him and he should step down.
    He is really a Manchurian President .

    • Sam

      Not really. He openly said many times over during the 2008 campaign that he would fundamentally reform (change) the government of the USA. The gullible voters just thought he meant change from republicans to democrats. He is systematically dismantling our democratic form of govertnment and we seem too inept to do anything about it. Here we are two years later and we don’t even know where he was born, how he got his college degrees, or why he used other peoples’ Social Security numbers.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jean,
    I see you met jopa!!! Just pulling your leg. You are so right in what
    you say.

  • JJM

    And then we have Code Pink representatives that appear on Fox News believing that ‘cleared’ detainees at Guantanemo should be released in the US!! In fact she would take them into her house. This is one that should be put on the ‘watch list’, not survivalists and ex-servicemen.
    I did not see any anti-american posters or statements in the Egypt stories but did see such sentiments in Mubarack’s supporters. Fear that power might end up in hands of radical islamists while hoping that a true republic does emerge with free elections.
    I never trusted what OBama preached and fear what his true intentions are. He does say what people want to hear (good patriotic intentions?) but actions prove more than words. If he did want to bring people together (in peace vs conflict), a good start would be the release of Birth Certificate and other background info rather than spending millions in hiding them. This in itself raised high degree of suspicion. Can only hope that he is not found to be an ‘enemy of the country’.

    • 45caliber

      One thing that amazes me about the progressives and those at Gitmo is that they believe that ONLY criminals should be held there. If we cannot prove they are criminals, we should allow them to go free.

      But they are NOT necessarily criminals by any definition, even if they were caught out of uniform (which is considered criminal under the Geneva Convention). They are military prisoners. We aren’t necessarily charging them with any crimial actions – we are trying to keep them from shooting at more of our soldiers.

  • http://youtube.com/theindigonation Wesley

    I really don’t believe all this fear mongering I actually am an optimist, and these groups will actually end up helping us in the end (I am not Muslim nor do I like Islam I am actually pagan but let me explain), American society is boring and conformist and very corrupt and materialist, and many people tend not to think for themselves right now. (I am an American) I am well aware of what some groups like the Muslim brotherhood are doing to try and destroy America (including some of the songs and shows, and media they are influencing right now (this is probably a big shocker to some that they have gotten this far but I can prove it if you want). I say let them. I don’t fear in fact this in a way is good, I have full faith that while they may succeed in destroying some things, THEY WILL NOT SUCCEED IN REPLACING IT WITH THEIR MUSLIM FILTH. Our young people are not stupid, I believe they will be defeated and what they have destroyed will be replaced with something beautiful, caring, fair and loving, and that they just might be able to bring out the best in us and allow us to rebuild a better society based on true freedom (not Islam).
    Peace Love and Freedom

    • 45caliber

      I agree. You are an optimist. However, through the years, I’ve found it better to be a pessimest and work hard to get things to go your way than it is to be an optimist and get shocked when they don’t go the way you think they should have done.

      Basically, it is better to be prepared for the worst and then be pleasantly surprised that your preparations aren’t needed than to expect the best and be shocked (and unprepared) when things go bad.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    AMJ
    You are right Hillary is a player.You have to remember what she said
    on tape, on natiomal TV. ( Don`t call me a LIBERAL,Call me a Progressive.)She is every bit as dangerous as Obama. The difference is Obama is President and has all his people in place.She does have Bill,but so does Obama. I think Bill Clinton thinks Obama might fix him up with a intern,

    • 45caliber

      I think Bill Clinton is hoping that Oblama will appoint him as the next Secretary General of the UN. Or at least, will propose him to the UN for their vote.

      Can you imagine him in that position with Hillary as President at the same time?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Wesles,
    You sound more like a looser than anything.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Oh, I`m sorry!!! I meant Wesley!!

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    JJM,
    You talk about Code Pink. You might check out what Code Pink,
    Bill Ayers,and the Muslim Brother Hood were behind in the Middle East.
    Google it, you might find the reading interesting.As far as I`am
    concerned, Code Pink are a bunch of Left wing flakes.

  • Raggs

    As you post Iran in envading the Suez canal… Its too late to stop this. And obama never had any intention of stoping it.

  • 45caliber

    There is plenty of oil in the world but Saudi is running out. They are down to about 15% of what they started with. The rest of the mid-East is in worse condition.

    The real problem is not that there is no more oil – there is. But it takes years to drill and pump the oil. It take years to build refineries. We haven’t had a new refinery built in the US in over thirty years. If the greens have their way, we never will. Not because it is unsafe (that will be said) but because they do not want us to use oil at all. To insure we keep even the oil we are using today, we would have to drill today to be ready for the oil in Saudi and the mid-East running out. It doesn’t appear that we will be allowed to do that.

    • frank

      I dont know how you can say we have plenty of oil if Saudi Arabia is at only 15% remaining.

      We dont have plenty of oil
      We (U.S.) are using ~700 million gallons of oil a day. that is an incredible amount.
      The real problem is we are using it too fast. We are going to blow through the worlds feasibly accessible oil in what 50 more years maybe a 100 i dont know.
      But either way that is a pretty small blip in human history. what are we gonna do then?
      Those idiot economists say something will take its place and things will balance out and settle down.
      well nothing is ready to take its place as of right now. and if we aren’t able to replace oil and the economic muscle it provides, we are gonna be screwed like you have no idea. So why totally, ignorantly squander our most precious resource?

  • Johnny Machine

    I don’t think there is a snowball’s chance in Hell that Obama is not dutifully adhering to the Zionist Party line. Like every president since Eisenhower he is firmly in their pocket. It’s this unconditional support for Israel’s brutal theft of Palestinian property and lately fighting wars for them that has created the terrorist problem. Now these phoney patriots are conniving to sacrifice more America lives by suckering the US into attacking Iran. The Israeli’s are laughing up their sleeve at the gullibility of Americans. Short of fighting a hundred years war with the entire Muslim world the easiest way out of this quagmire is to stop supporting Israel’s shameful policy of ethnic cleansing. Not only would this start the healing process by taking away the most powerful recruiting tool from the terrorist, but it would save the embattled US tax payers anywhere from four to ten billion dollars yearly. This would go some way in addressing the deficit. You can see why the Israeli’s look at Americans with derision. The US borrows money from China to give unconditionally to Israel.

  • http://elliesmiles@hotmail.com Patriotic says

    While our soldiers fight for this nation our president is working steadfastly to destroy the liberty of its citizens and ultimately meet his goal of transformation. The people who voted for him never questioned his definition of change and some still don’t or won’t. Let’s hold on to faith and pray that our future is still possible.

    • Sam

      You are correct about “The One”, but let’s do something to defend ourselves and quit acting like a bunch of girl scouts. Let’s VOTE this Muslim radical out of office and replace him with a real leader who can stand up to these thugs and reclaim our once lofty position as leader of the free world.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Sam,
        All I can do is repeat, type january imprimus? into your search engine and read the speech, check out the speakers credentials, and form your opinion afterwards!

  • frank

    Funny how these are the same arguments that were completely silenced when it was leading up time to taking sadam husein out of power. Or going into Afghanistan. and the concerns seem to be coming true.

    Take a brutal arab dictator out of power and he is replaced by a power struggle between those that tolerate us and those that hate us.

    And both have become major terrorist training grounds. (Remember we got two wars going on!, Lest we forget!) Wars that has cost us almost a billion dollars per day, 1000′s of U.S. soldier deaths and ~50,000? of injured needing lots of VA care!!!! Mission Accomplished Bush!!! Great Job!!!

    could we see that one coming? yes

  • noel bullard

    Please, Islam has been spread by the sword. Ask anyone in Africa, India, or Indo-China. I’d be saying the same thing as the MBH, while all the while understanding that Islam preys on the ignorant and the disenfranchised! Write it in stone in big block letters, EGYPT, another Islamic State, or soon will be… sickening…

    • Another Voice

      And Christianity HASN’T been spread by the sword????

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Another Voice,
        In the last 150 years? NO! Has the Muslim religeon been spread by the sword in the last 150 years? YES!!!

  • frank

    And what is the concern with “the greens”? and “their” green programs gaining traction?
    Green is good for this country in so many ways…
    1. Less polution – good for environment
    2. Sustainable – good for environment and the future
    3. Self sufficiency – Less reliance on other countries resources,
    less vulnerable/affected by other countries issues/problems.
    4. The sun is an incredible source of FREE energy. Why not use it?
    How is all that a problem?
    Oh Obama is encouraging the Muslim Brotherhood to stir up and destabilize Egypt which will push oil prices up past $100 a barrel just to make green programs feasible? Thats a little far fetched I think.

    What in the hell is going on here? Green is not the enemy!!!

    • Jim

      Chairman obama ,the communist democrat party and stupid people who think green will save Americans money and the environment are the enemy

      • eddie47d

        Your nose is growing. Did you want to be the new liar in chief? I won’t use the word you did and will cut you alittle slack this time.

  • Jim

    chairman obama the muslims and the communist democrat party hate America nothing good will ever come out of anything this black muslim scumbag does BHO = PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE

  • philL

    Would somebody please take out obuma, pelosti and Queen clinton before they totally ruin this country. and pleease do this before re-election time. I am sick of thE crap that is running this country BUT
    I am even more sickened by the people that put them in control. New York, Chicago and Las Vegas — WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

  • philL

    Would somebody please take out obuma, pelosti and Queen clinton before they totally ruin this country (and I don’t mean take them out to dinner) and pleease do this before re-election time. I am sick of thE crap that is running this country BUT I am even more sickened by the people that put them in control. New York, Chicago and Las Vegas — WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?

    • Eric Bischoff

      Hey Arse Hole! Do you know that it is illegal to threaten or incite the killing of government officials?

    • Eric Bischoff

      Boy the nut jobs are coming unglued at the seams!

    • http://deleted Claire

      phiL—And what the hell is wrong with you for suggesting such an atrocity?? You are disgusting.
      I do not want to see any politician “taken out.” Remember Giffords? Remember Reagan, JFK? It doesn’t matter which party they belong to, it is an evil thought and America does not need any more evil.

      • libertytrain

        Agreed.

      • JC

        They have to go, but murder is still a crime.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Frank,
    It will take 30 to 50 years to make this country green. What the Hell
    do we do in the mean time? Starve and slip back to 3rd world status.
    Frank my man, you are a dreamer. I do think the whole world should think a litle greener,not just us. I think it`s a way of the goverment
    to control it`s people through regulations. You want the goverment to
    control your life, then so be it. I don`t want them in my life over
    regulating every thing I do.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Only if we keep listening to the naysayers. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. The only thing that will take this long is to build nuclear reactors and they will not produce anything ever until they come online. But the green ramp up produces immediate results.

      Read this from the Rocky Mountain Institute. http://www.rmi.org/rmi/RenewablesMicropowerTransformingElectricityLandscape

      The emerging micropower revolution is making new electricity less carbon-intensive, faster to deploy, often cheaper. New power plants are increasingly being chosen by entrepreneurs and investors rather than by central planners, driving a shift toward smaller and cleaner plants with better economics. Faster construction reduces financial risks. Shorter decision cycles better capture rapid technological evolution and falling costs. All these trends heighten competitive pressure on big, slow, lumpy projects whose greater financial risks are clearly deterring investors.

      The changing electricity landscape depends on plant construction, retirement, and operations. The latter is important for nuclear power, which during 1990–2006 increased its global capacity by 44 GW (13.5 percent) but its output by 757 TWh/y (40 percent), due to the combined effects of new construction (36 percent), uprating (7 percent), and improved capacity factors through better operation (57 percent).

      Meanwhile, though, micropower pulled ahead of nuclear power, outproducing it in 2008 by 25.8 percent and in 2009 by 34.1 percent.

      A common argument against renewable power is that it can’t possibly be economically competitive with large central thermal power plants, because, after all, renewables (except big hydro dams) provide only 2 percent of world electricity, versus coal’s 41 percent and nuclear power’s 13 percent. If renewables were competitive, we’re told, they’d produce a greater share of world electricity. But these shares reflect the technologies, costs, cost distortions (chiefly large subsidies to fossil and nuclear plants), and institutional preferences and barriers of decades ago.

      To see the great wave of change starting to sweep the global electricity market, we need to look at different technologies’ market share of new electricity generation, reflecting investors’ and buyers’ choices under today’s very different conditions.

      Coal makes nearly half of U.S. electricity (45 percent in 2009 when natural-gas prices were low), but the median U.S. coal-fired power plant is 41 years old when weighted by unit, or 30 when weighted by capacity.

      So what’s being bought today, not decades ago? Not coal.

      In 2009, wind and other renewables accounted for 42.2 percent of all new U.S. generating capacity, while gas accounted for 43.3 percent and coal for only 12.6 percent. The U.S. installed 10 GW of windpower in 2009 alone—nearly twice the 6 GW of coal added during the entire decade of 2000–2009.

      Coal still dominates installed capacity due to decades-old decisions (because of long lead times, even the coal plants now entering service reflect decade-old decisions), but coal’s U.S. and E.U. market share is now dwindling because investors are instead choosing to build renewables and natural gas power. Europe in 2009 closed more nuclear and coal capacity than it added. Even China halved its net additions of coal capacity during 2006–2009, reduced the coal-fired share of its total electricity production by one and a half percentage points in 2009, and is planning only about five-eighths of its 2010 net additions of electrical capacity to come from coal (nearly all the rest is renewable).

      Early 2010 data suggest this trend will accelerate. According to New Energy Finance, a leading energy industry information provider that tracks the world’s individual clean-energy transactions, the world invested $27.3 billion in renewable energy during the first quarter of 2010, up 31 percent from the same period in 2009.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Frank,
    I think Obama and his Marxist goons are far fetched. I never thought
    the American people could be that stupid to hand over the office of
    President to someone like him. Now thats far fetched. It wasn`t like
    he didn`t tell us he was going to transform America and spread the wealth. The word CHANGE!!!!! I don`t care if I never hear that word
    again. Obama used that word and before him the Clintons used it. It is always used by the left.

    • WayneT

      Charles, Nobama used that word (change) over and over again, and the stupid folks who voted for him never asked him what he meant by change. If some one would come in my home and tell me he was going to make a change, I would say wait a minue, what kind of change are we talking about. I guess it shows how stupid, or maybe naive, how millions of people think. These are the people who are suckered in the trap, and we all have to pay the penalty.

    • WayneT

      Charles, I am on your side on this one. I think Eric is completely off base. He has bee reading to many greenpeace books. I use common sense. I am a firm believer that coal and oil was put on earth for mankind to use, not just lie in he ground. Why must we spend billions and billions of dollars when we already have the resources here already. It took us around a 100 years to get where we are today, so why should we start off on something else that may, or may not work. I have my doubts about all this crap. With wind and solar we just might be sitting in the dark alot reading from candles. I do believe that all his green peace crap are certain people wanting to get rich off the back of the taxpayers, What has happened to hydrogen gas that can be made from water?

      • Eric Bischoff

        I am sure you are right. Why should we rely on facts from an independent energy research think tank when we can get all of the propaganda we can swallow from the Koch brothers whose money is behind the Heritage Foundation, the Tea Party and who have made their fortunes from Oil and Coal.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Hydrogen is coming and would be a good transition fuel and a good storage fuel.

        Here are a few more facts you won’t believe because you are afraid of the truth. And the important point is that we could go even faster if it wasn’t for the games that are being played by the status quo energy cartels.

        And on your asinine point of coal put on this earth for us. That one clearly points to what’s wrong with people like you. You have absolutely no reverence for our planet earth and you actually believe that it is there for you to rape and pillage as you please.

        What gets me is that you people are usually the same people that want to make sure women cannot have abortions and that they cannot even have family planning. Never mind the fact that population explosion is approaching a not sustainable level.

        You want to force women to have unwanted children that they know they cannot properly feed, educate and raise to insure their productive role in society and then you turn around and blame them for our deficits and deny them food stamps, welfare and healthcare and heating fuel subsidies.

        What a bunch of low life despicable, compassionless people you are. Major christian hypocrites.

        —————————————

        At the end of 2009, 270 GW of proposed U.S. wind capacity (not all firmly planned) was stuck in the queue awaiting interconnection to the grid, often resisted by recalcitrant coal-fired utilities that dislike competition. That’s enough windpower to displace nearly half of U.S. coal-fired electricity, at half the cost of power generated by a new coal plant. And in Texas, the top windpower state, 17 percent of potential 2009 wind generation from already-installed turbines was curtailed, often by lack of available transmission capacity.

        Renewables are gaining market share even faster in Europe (see below), accounting for 71 percent of new electric capacity added in 2009. Of the 31 percent from natural gas, too, a significant fraction was decentralized cogeneration.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Eric Bischoff,

          Hydrogen is one of two natural elements that combine to make water. Hydrogen is not an energy source, but an energy carrier because it takes a great deal of energy to extract it from water. It is useful as a compact energy source in fuel cells and batteries. Many companies are working hard to develop technologies that can efficiently exploit the potential of hydrogen energy. This could be a fact in ten years.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    The Progressives new slogen is calling the Republicans the party of
    no. I don`t think they know the difference between Yes and No,just like they can`t add.Putting 40 million people on health care won`t cost a thing.Well,it`s already cost me 200.00 dollars a month.and
    we are just getting started.

    • Sam

      President Obama is way more dangerous than any group of limp wristed progressives. This guy is a radical revolutionary bent upon destroying the United States of America. He will say, or do anything to accomplish that revolutionary goal. He has stolen all our money, buried us in unpayable debt, ignores our laws, destroyed our healthcare system, and has met only minor opposition.

      • Denniso

        Please, get a grip…

      • JC

        The Kenyan’s loyalty is to the Globalists…which all by itself is Anti-American, cause for impeachment and maybe even charges of treason.

        • denniso

          Who are the ‘globalists’ and how do you know Obama is ‘loyal’ to them rather than to the country? You don’t of course,you’re just swallowing more lies and stupidity.
          The longer I see your comments here,the more unhinged you appear to become…you’re believing every ridiculous statement out there that is negative about Obama and liberals/progressives,to the point where you have no sense of any truth available to you. You’re the perfect mind for all the liars and hatemongers who are delighted to fill it w/ pure crap and utter nonsense…better sell everything and put everything in gold and dried food…the end is here!

          • karolyn

            You’re right, denniso, it’s all rumors, innuendo and conjecture by those that make their livings by guessing, leading to making everything worse. Nobody really KNOWS anything of the sort!

  • Eric Bischoff

    A Middle East Deja Vu
    http://www.fpif.org/blog

  • Eric Bischoff

    What You Need to Know About the Muslim Brotherhood

    http://bit.ly/hdNv7f

  • GotSense

    Allah is a god of war, and the god of war it the devil.

    What the world needs is more love.

    Jesus Christ is Love. Jesus Christ is Life.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Hey Sense,
      Love?
      Does that mean Incest in the Bible?

      ReligionTop 6 Incestuous Relationships In The Bible,

      Religious scholars say that God suspended the laws of incest in the early days of man in order to ensure that man spread on the earth. In the words of the commentators of the Douay Rheims Bible: “God [dispensed] with such marriages in the beginning of the world, as mankind could not otherwise be propagated.” Despite that, these tales are not all simply matters of procreation – particularly item 1. So, here is a list of 6 of the more questionable relationships in the Bible.

      6
      Cain and his Wife:

      And Cain went out from the face of the Lord, and dwelt as a fugitive on the earth, at the east side of Eden. And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived, and brought forth Henoch: and he built a city, and called the name thereof by the name of his son Henoch. [Genesis 4:16-17]

      Cain was the first born son of Adam and Eve, and Abel was the second. In Genesis 4 we read how Cain kills his brother and is sent east of Eden where he marries a woman and “lays” with her. Because Adam and Eve were the first humans – from whom all people come – Cain’s wife was his sister – and, consequently, all of the early Biblical relationships were incestuous (with the exception of Adam and Eve). Cain, incidentally, was the guy that caused so much trouble for the Mormon’s who believed that the cursed “Mark of Cain” meant black skin, leading them to forbid blacks from entering the Mormon priesthood (God “revealed” that they were allowed to let black skinned people in to the priesthood in 1978). You can read more about that blunder here. In the image above we see Cain killing his brother Abel.
      5
      Abraham and Sara:
      Howbeit, otherwise also she is truly my sister, the daughter of my father, and not the daughter of my mother, and I took her to wife. And after God brought me out of my father’s house, I said to her: Thou shalt do me this kindness: In every place, to which we shall come, thou shalt say that I am thy brother. [Genesis 20:12-13]

      Abraham married his half sister Sara in Ur. The King of Gerara took her from Abraham and God sent him a dream to tell him that he would be destroyed for taking a woman who already had a husband (God approved of the marriage between the brother and sister). The King returned Sara to Abraham and they remained together as a couple until she died at the age of 127. Incidentally, Abraham died 38 years later at the ripe old age of 175.

      4
      Nachor and Melcha:

      And Thare lived seventy years, and begot Abram, and Nachor, and Aran. And these are the generations of Thare: Thare begot Abram, Nachor, and Aran. And Aran begot Lot. And Aran died before Thare his father, in the land of his nativity in Ur of the Chaldees. And Abram and Nachor married wives: the name of Abram’s wife was Sarai: and the name of Nachor’s wife, Melcha, the daughter of Aran, father of Melcha, and father of Jescha. [Genesis 11:26-29]

      This is one of those complex “generations” quotes that are found throughout the early stages of the Bible, but if you pay close attention you can see that Nachor (Abraham’s brother) married Melcha (his niece). It is phrases like those above which make it so difficult to read the Bible cover to cover. Frankly, these parts of the Bible make Proust’s “In Remembrance of Things Past” read like a Doctor Seuss book!

      3 Lot and his Daughters

      And the elder said to the younger Our father is old, and there is no man left on the earth, to come in unto us after the manner of the whole earth. Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the elder went in and lay with her father: but he perceived not neither when his daughter lay down, nor when she rose up. And the next day the elder said to the younger: Behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine also to night, and thou shalt lie with him, that we may save seed of our father. They made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in, and lay with him: and neither then did he perceive when she lay down, nor when she rose up. So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father. [Genesis 19:31-36]

      It doesn’t really get much more blatant than that. The two daughters had sex with their father, Lot, in order to preserve his family line. Incidentally, this all happened shortly after they had fled from Soddom and Gomorrah which was destroyed by God for its immorality – ironic?. After the events described above, Lot had no memory of it (maybe it was the liquor) and nine months later the daughters gave birth to two sons, Moab (father of the Moabites), and Ammon (father of the Ammonites).

      2
      Amram and Jochabed:

      The sons of Merari: Moholi and Musi. These are the kindreds of Levi by their families. 20 And Amram took to wife Jochabed his aunt by the father’s side: and she bore him Aaron and Moses. And the years of Amram’s life were a hundred and thirty-seven. [Exodus 6:19-20]

      This is the family history of Moses – the guy who lead the Jews out of Egypt and later was given the ten commandments (which were not actually 10 commandments – more on that here). Jochabed was Moses’ Great-aunty Mom.

      1
      Amnon and Thamar

      And it came to pass after this, that Amnon the son of David loved the sister of Absalom the son of David, who was very beautiful, and her name was Thamar. And he was exceedingly fond of her, so that he fell sick for the love of her: for as she was a virgin, he thought it hard to do any thing dishonestly with her. [II Kings 13:1-2 ] And Thamar came to the house of Amnon her brother: but he was laid down: and she took meal and tempered it: and dissolving it in his sight she made little messes. And taking what she had boiled, she poured it out, and set it before him, but he would not eat: and Amnon said: Put out all persons from me. And when they had put all persons out, Amnon said to Thamar: Bring the mess into the chamber, that I may eat at thy hand. And when she had presented him the meat, he took hold of her, and said: Come lie with me, my sister. She answered him: Do not so, my brother, do not force me: for no such thing must be done in Israel. Do not thou this folly. [II Kings 13:8-12] But he would not hearken to her prayers, but being stronger overpowered her and lay with her. [II Kings 13:14]

      Our final item is not just a case of incest – it is a case of incestuous rape! Amnon fell in love with his sister, Thomar, and was counseled by a crafty man to trick her in to having sex with him. He followed the bad advice and when Thomar tried to defend herself, he raped her. At least justice was ultimately done as Thomar’s other brother, Absalom, killed Amnon two years later in vengeance. Let that be a lesson to us all!

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  • Donald

    John Myers is a fear monger and a gold bug. The more fear he can raise, the more people rush to buy gold and the greater John’s profits. He has yet to write a positive post about anything. He is the epitomy of a Conflict of Interest.

    • John Myers

      Wrong on all counts Donald.

      First, central banks and world leaders dictate the price of gold, not newsletter writers. Not now, not ever. Consider that tens of billions of gold are traded each and every day. What I say to few thousand readers means nada, zero (do the math Donald).

      Second, I do write positive posts. If you don’t believe me read this column from last November: The Tea Party May Save Us Yet.

      You can read it here: http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/civil-liberty/the-tea-party-may-save-us-yet/

      Then seven weeks ago I wrote: What Would You Resolve To Do If The World Were To End In 2012? You can read that column which says the world isn’t going to end here: http://www.personalliberty.com/asset-and-wealth-protection/what-would-you-resolve-to-do-if-the-world-were-to-end-in-2012/.

      So Donald, if you want to debate the merits of my column than don’t be so lazy. Do some research and maybe add a dash of logic. My writing has holes in it. Hell, everyone’s does. But saying I am getting rich making the price of gold go up and I am always negative, would earn you out an F in a freshman philosophy class in college.

    • John Myers

      P.S. — Donald, if you actually read the column you would see I don’t even mention gold.
      J. Myers

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Hey Donald,
        BaddaBAM!!! Way to go JOHN!!!!

    • JC

      How does anyone put a “positive spin” on our situation today?
      The reality is we’re going down the tubes at breakneck speed and reaching a point past which we will have to start from the beginning.

      Which might actually end up as a good thing.

    • S.C.Murf

      Time for you to make that popping sound don wanna be

  • jopa

    Charles;If you are paying $200 more a month for healthcare it is because the republicans said NO to the public option and now they have no competition.

    • http://deleted Claire

      jopa–The public option should have been included. But it was not, therefore, get rid of the health care reform and start all over. The insurance companies have been out of control for years. I could write a book about greedy insurance companies.

    • WayneT

      Jopa, you are another person sleep at the switch.

  • Delores Smith

    JOHN MYERS – AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE – Thank you…
    You have every truth down pat. Obama sent invitations to the Muslim Brotherhood for them to attend his talk in Cairo. They listened to his every word. Obama wants all factions of Egypt to be included in the new government (he means The Muslim Brotherhood,who stirred
    up the protests in Egypt and other Muslim countries.
    OBAMA, I am renaming The New World Order that you and Soros have in mind. It is now The New World Disorder. Guess what? You will NOT achieve your evil goals.
    Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

  • r304indy

    Seems the only way to satisfy some is for a sitting president to be a so-called Manchurian candidate. Is this not what Karl Rove accused john McCain of being when he wanted to take on Bush 2 for the presidency? This goes along with the over 51% of republicans who think the president is a Muslim. Strange how a name can cause suspicion of a person. I am sure his parents missed the class on names when they conspired to plant him in the white house.

    • Denniso

      I think that anyone w/ any skill at all who wanted to create,package and sell a ‘Manchurian’ candidate in this country would pick a name like John Smith,and would certainly not choose a Black man as the one.
      What were the odds that someone w/ Obama’s name and skin color would ever get elected.
      What an idiotic conspiracy theory…

      • libertytrain

        Robert Kennedy said in 1968 that it would take 40 years and a black man would be elected president. I didn’t say that this equals conspiracy, just accurate timing.

      • JC

        Denniso, they’re all idiotic theories…
        Go back to bed, everything is fine. ;)

    • WayneT

      r304indy, the only reason I believe that Obam is a Muslim is behind I have personally heard it come out of his on mouth.

  • Robert Laity

    Carter, “a deer caught in the headlights”? Carter is pro-Islamic along WITH Obama:
    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12132

    Carter,Obama,Biden,the Bushes,the Clintons,Palin,McCain and Pelosi are ALL in the same cabal.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are so wrong. Are you that out of touch that you cannot even tell the difference between an American loving conservative and an anti-American liberal? Your out of touch pal, big time.

  • Ken in Florida

    Right wingers, always searching for bogeymen! First it was the communists, then it was the liberal-socialists, then they used 911 to portray all Muslims as terrorists. Is it any wonder us liberals call you a bunch of Nazis? That is exactly what they did, fabricate enemies!

    • S.C.Murf

      Ken please go back to cuba

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Ken, it is the liberals that are the big liars, and always looking for some to blame for everything, and you know that. And it is the liberals that are trying to rewrite history, even telling lies about that. Just recently Harry Reid tried to say that Ronald Reagan cherished a close friendship with Tip Oneil, which is a lie, because though Reagan tried to work with him, it was impossible to do so, as even after a private dinner one night, where Reagan thought they had forged a friendship, O’Neil immediately went to the papers and personally attacked Reagan. When Reagan confronted him about it, O’Neil said “thats politics. After 6 o’clock we can be friends, but before 6 its politics”. What a loser. And also you liberals keep trying to say Reagan increased the deficit, yet the records show, not only did he take a staggering career high Carter era unemployment rate from 21.98 percent, to a 1986 low of 7.7 percent, the Reagan era tax cuts fueled an economic boom that nearly doubled federal revenue. Now think about it for a second. If it doubled federal revenue, by making tax cuts, how could they increase deficits? Its impossible, unless your the democrat liberals prostituting the truth. You guys take the cake with your attempts to change history and to just lie, lie lie and to be protected by the liberal press, whom Im thinking is finally starting to see through you, and this may end soon. And Ken, you see, Reagans policies produced 96 consecutive months of continuous economic growth, from 1983 to 1990. Reaganomics produced 16 million jobs, and not only that, they cut African-American unemployment from 19.5 percent in 1983 to 11.4 percent in 1989. And yet you guys lie and tell the African-American community you are their friend, and behind them, when you have done nothing. Just a bunch of liars with selective memory, who distort the truth.

  • jopa

    Claire;I really believe the HCB to be a good thing but it does need some improvements like the public option.The existing bill is a good base to work on but to start over would mean it would never come back in our lifetimes.The latest poll is 51% don’t like the bill but 58% want the funding for it to go through.Can’t figure that one out but as time goes by and the more people realize what the bill is all about the more they like it.I guess I just don’t like to see anyone suffer in America and I am willing to send my tax dollars for healthcare before sending them to unjust wars.PS; How about them Packers???

    • http://deleted Claire

      jopa: Health Care reform would have been good if it was done correctly. However, I also do not approve of fining people if they cannot afford to have it. That is way out of line. There are too many people in the U.S. that simply cannot afford it. My husband and I each have a supplement –Blue Cross/Blue Shield–their prices have increased at a steady rate for 7 years on my husband and now on me. Insurance companies have always raised their rates, now they are going crazy and all because of this health care reform bill. Greed is the name of the game. Wall Street, the banks, the mortgage companies, oil companies, etc.—all of them are greedy as hell. Greed is what caused this mess the U. S. is in now.
      Jopa–I really think the Health Care Reform should be discarded and if they do it over again, it should be done fairly and squarely. But this will never happen. Too much “scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” mentality. Doesn’t welfare take care of a lot of these people that can’t afford insurance? Hospitals cannot turn them away. Who knows what the politicians are going to do next? We have a mixed bag, I can only hope they use their brains and realize the economy, jobs and the war should be handled first and foremost. If people had jobs, maybe they could afford to have insurance. I am fortunate, the publisher I work for pays for my supplement and they will continue to pay it until such time I decide to retire.
      I do not want to see cuts in military/weaponry–if they keep our soldiers over in those God-forsaken places, I want our soldiers to have everything they NEED to survive. If they make cuts in military supplies, then bring our soldiers home–NOW. Hey, I have a better idea, send the politicians over there and let them fight. Wonder how long they would last? I bet they would put a stop to this war immediately.

    • http://deleted Claire

      jopa—”How about them Packers” — I did the Happy Dance for a week.
      I am thrilled they won the Super Bowl!! My Wiscosin relatives and friends are very happy!!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Dang!! “Wisconsin”

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa
    You are such a left wing LIAR.Why do you think you got your asses
    kicked in the 2010 elections. It sure wasn`t because the majority
    of people wanted Obama care.Claire, we all know jopa by now.I think, he thinks his Progressives Loons won the election. jopa, I think if you
    would go and shove your head up your ass,you probley would find
    your way around in there better than in the real world. Claire,you know I don`t talk like this,but this idiot drives me nuts.

    • denniso

      It’s nice to know that you ‘don’t talk like that’…I wonder how you do talk if you don’t talk the way you just did? sounds like you need a lesson in logic and civility.

  • chuckb

    check it out jopa:

    JUDGE KITHIL wrote:

    ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

    ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

    ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now – ACORN).

    ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

    ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees.

    ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient’s age.

    ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.

    ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an “end-of-life planning” seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

    ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

    HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on:

    “Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick ‘fix’ to make the plan financially sound for their future.”

    Honorable David Kithil
    Marble Falls, Texas

    All of the above should give you the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare. Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

  • chuckb

    the above reference to the hcb was not all enacted in the original bill

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Jopa >>> CLaire
    You guys talk about the public option being the answer on HC. I`m
    sorry, I don`t want the goverment messing with my HC.I do agree
    that the insurance co are charging to much.They raised my premiums
    200.00 a month, still I would rather pay this 776.00 dollars a month than be forced into Obama care. To put and end to the insurance co.
    raising premiums let them sell their product across state lines.
    We as a country can not afford Obama care.

    • http://deleted Claire

      Charles– You are correct– we as a country cannot afford anything.

  • chuckb

    charles

    the only people agreeing with the hcb are ones expecting a cheaper rate on their healthcare premiums, that is not the case, barry lied when he promoted this bill and he had not a clue what it contained, he did understand the tax part and he wants a single payer policy. if you questioned 99% of the democrats who sponsored this bill they couldn’t tell you what this bill contained, they never read it and most people couldn’t understand it if they tried to read it. this is a terrible piece of legislation, they should have corrected parts of medicare and left it alone. barry wants control of your life and all the tax he can get from you.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,
    I agree with you 100%.It has to do with Obama wanting to transform
    America and spread the wealth.Most of the people who voted for the
    bill no longer have a job. The voters took care of that in the 2010
    election. We have to get Obama in 2012. It is a must.If we don`t vote
    that man out,I don`t know whats going to happen to our country.

    • Denniso

      Incumbents rarely lose,so count Obama in for another 6 yrs…get used to it.
      Do you realize how the wealth has been ‘spresd’ for the past 30 yrs? It has moved increasingly to the top 2% of the people,not because they are smarter or harder working,but because they have more power in the system and can orchestrate it. Buying off politicians,lobbying for themselves,getting the tax code set in their favor. That’s how wealth gets ‘spread’ in our system when the wealthy have enough control to do it,as they have been for some decades now.

      The top 1% have as much wealth as the lower 50% do…did that just happen by some divine mechanism,or because the 50% are lazy? No,the very wealthy have enough clout to make it happen. Keeping working wages down,busting unions,keeping the min wage as low as possible,writing the tax code in their favor,steering gov’t contracts and policies in their direction…the very wealthy and powerful control our gov’t and economy to a large degree so that they benefit and working people and lower income people don’t.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Clarie,
    Glad to see you back!!!!

  • David Warheit

    So what you are saying is that the US should have sent however many troops would have been necessary to Egypt to support a dictator. Since his own army was unwilling to take action, I guess this means that we should have told them to back off or else face full-scale war, followed by a cleaning of the streets. Tens, probably hundreds of thousands of US troops would then be assigned to Egypt for years and years. Meanwhile, think of all the good will towards the US this would inspire in other Arabic countries!

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Claire,
    Good Post!!! Greed will bring a nation to it`s knees in a heart beat.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa,
    Where are you? I need someone to pick on. It`s no fun if your not posting. I don`t want you left- wing loons to go run and hide. Your fearless
    leader (Obama) has done just that. You never hear much about his Marxist,Socialst.Commie friends and advisors anymore. He did go out and hire new advisors to cover up the pigs he brought to Washington
    with him, when he was elected President.Believe me, these pigs are still around.After the 2010 elections, he wants to hide them till the 2012 elections are over, This man will do anything to get re-elected.
    They will raise their ugley heads again if he gets back in office.
    They are still on the pay roll, so lets not forget about them.

    • Denniso

      I hate to tell you this,but pigs are smarter and more ethical and honest than many of your rightwing buddies. Calling people pigs is also a reflection on you.

  • jopa

    Charley& Chuckie;Not hiding just spend minimal time on this site and the rest enjoying retirement.When you grow up and get to be my age you will be on Medicare unless you want to pay all your insurance needs that will be a considerable sum.I am fortunate enough to have Medicare plus my own private insurance and it isn’t cheap.So unless you are very well to do you should be careful in asking for cuts in HCB and Medicare.You may be shooting your own foot off and be left hobbling around the rest of your life.President Obama must be doing things right his popularity is surging among all parties.

  • jopa

    Charles;You speak of these commie, marxist, socialist friends of Obama’s are talking about the holdovers from the Bush administration.You should be more specific and start taking your meds, you are starting to sound like i41.

  • chuckb

    jopa

    what are you talking about, barrycare cuts medicare, you should be incensed. take some time and read as much of the hcb you can, this bill is disastrous, it will only lead to a single payer hcb. if you want what the canadians and europe don’t like then support the hcb.

    you should listen to what 141 and charles are saying, they have it right.

  • jopa

    chuckb;Medicare technically would not be cut but it would be incorporated into the HCB plan.There is no need for duplication in the HCB.It would be Medicare for all.

  • chuckb

    jopa

    in the process, medicare would be cut 500 billion. the way they figure this is the value of medicare will be reduced that amount over a period of years allowing for reduced quality in patients care.
    we do not need this bill. they need tort reform and changes made to the availability to purchase insurance across state lines, our healthcare was the best in the world and they should leave it alone and make a few corrections. the barrycare bill is the largest tax increase in history and at the same time is unconstitutional.

  • denniso

    People who don’t want change in our healthcare system often repeat the myth,that we have the best healthcare in the world. That’s a joke,except for the wealthy and those fortunate enough to work for a gov’t entity or a large enough company to get good health insurance at an affordable cost. 40 million uninsured,40 million underinsured and millions going bankrupt trying to pay medical bills…millions staying away from the doctor because they can’t afford it until they wind up in a very expensive ER,and then dealing w/ expensive urgent care. How can that be the best healthcare in the world?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    I don`t know one hospital that will turn people away.There are also a lot of goverment agencies, plus medicade to help the poor.We do need health care reform,but not the kind Obama wants to give us. I don`t
    want goverment to run my health care. They run enough of my life as it is.

    • Denniso

      If someone w/o insurance is facing a $100,000 operation and they know it would wipe out their life’s savings,or they don’t have the money,they will usually not get the surgery. If they have cancer and the treatment is hundreds of thousands of $$,they won’t get the treatment at all and die prematurely. Many are covered initially for cancer and then canceled after the first treatment so are forced into bankruptcy. Yep, a really good and fair system we have.
      We have had a two tier healthcare system for decades,since costs have soared and the health industry heads started raking in millions/year in pay. The well off can get very good care and not go broke,millions of others go w/o care and treatment or lose their life savings.

      The only people who can defend the current system are those who do well under it and who have no empathy for their fellow citizens. It’s a pathetic commentary on the heartlessness of some Americans.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,Your wasting your time with jopa and Denniso. I doubt they
    understand a word your saying. You can`t make it any plainer than what
    you posted to jopa. They just don`t get it.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    There is no cheap health insurance. You have to make up your mind
    how your going to spend your money, drugs and a case of beer everyday,
    or on health care. Life Style!!!! LIFE STYLE!!! This would take care
    of about 20 million of the 40 million you talk about. Another 14 million illegal immigrants and that leaves about 6 million for us to deal with, not 40 million.

    • Denniso

      Have you actually looked at private insurance costs lately? I would be willing to bet that you are either on Medicare or have cheap insurance through a company or gov’t plan.
      Individual insurance for a family of 4 can cost $10,000/yr and still have a 20% copay and $2500 deductible. How does a typical lower wage working family pay for that? And,if there are any pre existing conditions then you don’t get covered. Almost all very small business people have no insurance at all because they can’t afford it.
      Tell us how you have insurance and who pays for most of it. I dare you to tell the truth.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa,
    I`m going say this once more and if you don`t check it out,
    I give up.These are some of Obams friends and advisors.There
    are many more, however, I`m just going to name a few. >> Bill Ayers,
    Valerie Jarett, Anita Dunn, Andy Stern, Jeff Jones, Saul Alinsky,
    Cass Sestein, Van Jones, George Soros and the Rev Wright.>> Here are a few groups>> Code Pink, Acorn, move on .org, Organizing For America,
    SEIU>> Check these out then I`ll give you another bunch. Don`t be lazy
    and do your homework. You can google almost everyone of them.

    • Denniso

      So you want to play guilt by association? For your info,these people are not evil boogey men anyway…you rightwingers just don’t like their politics.
      The great big boogeyman of the right,Saul Alinsky,was nothing more than a labor organizer who worked for years for workers rights and decent working conditions. You owe the rights you may have had at work
      to people like Alinsky who dedicated their lives to workers,fighting against corporate power that tries it’s best to squeeze workers dry.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    You haven`t dug deep enough. No, I don`t like Saul Alinsky`s politics. I like no one that has Marxist leanings and would like to see this nation changed to a Socialist form of goverment. Do you know what this mans
    politics are and what he stands for? Denniso, I don`t think you do. I can tell you, he is no Liberal Democrat.

    • Denniso

      I’ve read about Alinsky,and he was no evil man.
      If you would think a bit about this constant ranting from the rightwing of ‘socialism’,you would see that it’s a meaningless term in the debate. Socialism is when gov’t OWNS the means of production,not when gov’t taxes and creates policies to help the country work better for everyone. ‘Social’ or communal policies are ones that provide roads,military,water and sewage treatment plants,cops,fire protection….those things are not socialism,and most Americans want and demand them. Healthcare that all people can afford is also not socialism,unless the gov’t actually takes over the healthcare industry,which it isn’t doing. Gov’t is using taxes and regulations to accomplish it.

      By the way,I am totally against the mandates to buy insurance and think it never should have been in the mix…the Repubs favored it in
      ’94 and many did when this latest fight began…if they had helped rather than fought,maybe we could have gotten a better plan w/o mandates.

      • Denniso

        Charles, you didn’t tell us how you have health ins and who pays for most of the cost…

  • jopa

    The question at the top of the page is Barack Obama the Manchurian candidate for the Muslim Brotherhood?The answer is NO he is the president of the United States of America.A Christian born in Hawaii that to some that don’t know, is a state now.Also the Muslim brotherhood folks are a bunch of conservative religious zealots and Mr. Obama doesn’t fit in that picture whatsoever.So far he is the only candidate for president in 2012.We are so blessed.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    I retired from the US Postal Service 10 years ago. We are seperate
    from any other Federal Program. We have our own program in which we pay
    toward our retirement and health care. We do not pay into Social Security.We do pay a lot more into our retirement fund than people
    pay into Social Security.We also pay a good portion toward our health
    care. I was paying 576.00 a month and this year it went up 200.00 a
    month, I now pay 776.00 a month or 9,312.00 a year. This is for two people.
    I worked for the Post Office as a letter carrier for 34 years. After
    paying state and federal taxes, healthcare, Survior Benifits, life insurance, I take home 1,223.00 a month. We aren`t like other Federal or state, or city employees that get their rtirement,healthcare, free or almost free.We did have a union,however,it was very weak. You are not forced
    to join the union,yet a person gets the same the same benifits that one gets if he joins. I was 64 when I retired and even though I didn`t make a lot of money it was steady work. My wife worked and we did have 4 kids
    and did manage to put them through college. Also, my dad told me no matter
    how much you made, pay your self first, even if it was only a few dollars.
    He also, told me to make sure your house was paid for before you retired.
    I don`t complain to much even though we haven`t had a raise in 2 years My
    wife gets a round 800.00 a month in social security which gives us around 2,000.00 combined total for the two of us.Remember, what I said a bout
    paying yourself first, well, I did just that, did my home work and invested in the stock market the last 45 years and did quite well. This gives me another 3,000.00 a month.which brings me up to around 5,000.00
    a month. I almost forgot, give 10% to the church, God will bless you.
    Now you know Denniso, how I have health insurance and who pays for it.
    Obama care is trying to drive our health care premiums so high that
    we will be forced into his single pay goverment program. He as done nothing to help us to contain the Insurance Co from raising our premiums.
    The insurance co. feel they have to make all the money they can before
    2014 when the most of Obama care will be implemented. This gouging could
    be stoped by the Insurance Co if they were allowed to sell their product
    across state lines.

    • Denniso

      Well, like I thought,you were a gov’t worker w/ a good job and good benefits…if you’re paying nearly $800/mo as your share of the premium,then you’ve got a caddilac ins plan,assuming it’s only for two adults. You must have almost no deductible or copay and also dental coverage as well.
      It looks like you have a gross income above $70,000,with a net of $60,000,so sure,you can afford the high cost of insurance. Now, imagine a working person grossing $30,000 and trying to live and pay the ridiculous cost for insurance. I have several friends who are builders…they net after taxes about $20,000/yr…how do they pay $10,000/yr for health ins? There are millions of low wage workers,self
      employed carpenters,plumbers,builders,handymen,landscapers,all hard working people who can’t even come close to affording a nice insurance plan like yours is. What do we tell them? Stop working and go on medicaid? Die rather than going to the doctor?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa,
    You can`t prove it by me. I don`t really care where he was born.I
    do care about what he is trying to do to this country.Tramsform
    America and spread the wealth. We do help the poor and sick
    through the many orig. that are out there. I don`t need to give
    them every thing I worked for all my life or the rich need to give them everything. Obama, would like to bring us all down to their leval and then we would all be the same.Why work, Obama will take care of you.
    Ya, right.

  • jopa

    Charles;The reason you are paying so much for health care is the insurance companies have no competition.When the HCB had the public option in it there was a choice of Federal health care or if you chose private.That is the reason the republicans shot it down to protect the profits of the insurance companies.There was a time in the past when insurance companies would care about your health but today it’s all about profits and very little of your premium dollar goes toward health care.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    jopa,
    I hate to say you are right.I agree with everything you
    say about the Insurance Co. Even with the public option,
    I still do not want goverment runing my health care any
    more than what they are already are doing.They could
    bring down our premiums if they would let the Insurance
    Co sell across state lines.Adding 40 million people to the
    gov. health care is going to make it cheaper,I just don`t get it.
    Ask any body who has private health ins.will tell you since
    Obama care was implemented their prmiums have gone up.
    and only a couple of things have been put out there.
    Children on their parents policy till age 26 and people who are
    uninsurable.We can not afford Obama care,least not at this time

  • chuckb

    jopa. you mentioned barry was born a christian and raised so. where did you get this information?. his mother was an atheist, his father was a devout muslim. now you want to tell me the father said, oh well, let’s raise him a christian?. they divorced after a couple of years and she married another muslim lolu soetoro and barry was adopted by him and now you want us to believe this guy, a muslim, said, of well, lets raise him a christian. i’m sorry that doesn’t work. when he was returned to hawaii to his grandparents, did they convert him to christianity? what religion was the grandparents? were they atheist too?. they have covered barrys foot prints, even the internet sources have no information on this guy.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    chuckb,
    You know jopa never knows what he is talking about.
    I like jopa and Denniso.What would we do with out
    them? We would`nt have anybody to educate.

  • jopa

    chuckb;If you have someone explain to you what I wrote you will see what I really said.I will try again.I said “A Christian born in Hawaii.”I didn’t say he was born Christian.Perhaps he is a born again Christian or became a Christian when he was baptized like me.He is a good man and if he says he is a Christian,Muslim, Jew or even an illegal alien from another planet America is blessed to have him.He claims to be a Christian so I will take his word for it PS;Don’t forget to watch the President of the World tonight on MSNBC at 10 o’clock Eastern

  • jopa

    Charles: What I say about health insurance isn’t about me but more for my fellow man not as fortunate as I am.I have plenty of coverage and would have been dead at 52 about ten years ago when I came down with cancer if I didn’t have great coverage.I read the obituaries from my hometown (smalltown USA) newspares everyday and I know all of these people dying young in that area is because of poor or no health insurance.Most in their 50s annd early sixties put in homes without any treatment that is there but not for them.The sad side of America

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Definition of a liberal:

    A liberal person is someone who is not limited by traditional beliefs. A liberal person is a person who would be considered broad minded in their beliefs and views.Quote for the day!

  • http://yahoo CHRIS T

    64 YEARS OLD IS THE AGE WHEN NIEVE TURNS INTO SENILE!!!!

  • Jeff in OH

    There is no Question that Blowbana is a muslim and is doing his best to destroy the American culture and there allies. People that vote in America are so deceived, thanks to the news, If only we could vote again today….

  • http://google mike b.

    The Islamic Revolution has begun to take over the world. It began in the United States of America in 2008 with the election of Hussein Obama. May God almighty bless whats left of America.

    • Denniso

      You two are deluded and paranoid. Do some independent thinking and turn off Beck and Limbaugh…you’ll feel better and your brain will began to clear up.

    • Realist

      The age-old philosphy of the Catholic Church is very true — and it is tried and tested, that is: “Give me a child until he is 5 years old and he is mine forever!” We could change that to “Give me an Islamic child until he is 5 and he is Islamic forever.” I can assure all of you people need to be reminded of this philosphy and it also works with discipline and thereby produces productive, good members of our society. With the Islamic President, his mother was a wayward wild woman and her child was in his formative years raised and taught the Islamic way of life. Barack Obama is an Islamic person and yes he knows exactly how to deceive the stupid do-gooder, ignorant people in the US. He is a fake and destroying our government which equates to “doing the job he came to do!” I have no ax to grind with the Islamic people but the US was founded on Christianity and is supposedly still Christian and I have my doubts there from the lack of church activity that I see everywhere, lack of religious behavior. The US has turned into a “violent, unrealistic, world of animals — example, stupid people trying to pit boys against girls!!! No respect for women or females either — not in the US just what the muslims love. The muslims kill gays and lesbians and even the parents will kill their own children if they disgrace them in such a horrible manner. Maybe all of you need to acquaint yourselves with the muslim community and really understand their culture.

  • Lee

    To have Muslim attached to your name or cause guarantees that it is a radical movement and not a peaceful movement at all. Muslims, if they follow the koran, have to kill the infidels. There is nothing peaceful to what their false messiah, muhammed, did and preached. Don’t fool yourself in thinking that islam is peaceful. Do some reading and studying the religion and you will find out that they want world domination and with the muslim in chief, obama, they have our help now. The only way to change this course is through coming back to God’s word and trusting in Jesus Christ.

    • Denniso

      I think you should look at the old testament and note the violence and bloodshed in it.

      • Lee

        I have read both old and new. The old testament is no longer the law of Christianity since we now have Jesus Christ. The muslims only have violence towards all who don’t follow their satanic belief. The only people who commit these horrific acts of violence are muslims not Christians or Jews. So don’t refer to the Old Testament about the violence because we as Christians study the Old, but the New is now our guide.

  • http://google mike b.

    THUGS!!!!! Mainstream media, unions, liberals, Hussein Obama, and MB. Oh, yea and you too Denniso. You’ll keep taking up for Thug and Protester-in-chief Hussein

  • http://google mike b.

    $5 gallon gas , attack our allies , and comfort our enemies. 15% un-employment, closer to 20% if you take away all of new IRS and gov. agency jobs that taxpayers are paying for. Mooslem -in-chief Hussein Obama is the leader of the MB and with brainless minions like denniso he will be the THUG that brings america down. Do something better with your time and go join that great american organization the Black Panthers that helped get THUG-IN-CHIEF Hussein Obama elected.

    • Lee

      Well said Mike. Those such as Denniso, are mindless who cannot think for themselves. They refuse to open their eyes and mind and think for themselves. Sad state of affairs when you have those types in control. God bless.

  • Lostwages

    The Middle East turning upside down and the injection of the MB will continue. Is the big “O” in the middle of it? Yes, if you believe the new world order is involved. I heard a new line on this Middle East take over the other day. The way it’s going down has to do with the U.S. cheating the Middle East oil producing countries. Back in the 70′s the U.S. made an agreement with the Middle East oil producers that the U.S. would not develop oil production in America, if the Middle East oil producers would sell oil to us and re-invest part of the profits by purchasing U.S. “T” Bills. This has been the standard now for the better part of forty years now. At this time we are seeing the beginning of the disruption of the middle east. Egypt is just the beginning, we are already hearing that this will continue throughout the middle east, and I’ll bet the MB ends up in charge in most of these countries. Here’s the scam, as the ME becomes more entangled, the price of oil will continue to climb, when it reaches 200.00 dollars a barrel, the U.S. will claim that we must start producing our own oil, and stop buying from the ME. On top of that the dollar will continue to devalue and all of the “T” bills being held by these ME countries will be worthless putting the ME into greater turmoil. It is predicted that the U.S. can produce it’s own oil for about 16.00 dollars a barrel, and with the price over $200.00 a barrel…great profits will be seen by the oil producers in the U.S., while at the same time the U.S. dollar has crashed, America will be in turmoil, and take a guess as to who would be looking to buy up America for pennies on the dollar. You got it, The new world order! Better known as the big banks and big corporations. So, just to make it clear, is Obama the Manchurian Candidate for the MB? In my book, no, Obama is a puppet for the new world order, as is the MB. Are we the people screwed? You bet, anyway you look at it! Our government is running on borrowed money. We are short at least 1 trillion dollars for our budget every year. At this time, no one is left that will loan us money on this raising debit, so we have the Federal Reserve continue printing us more money, it’s not free, we must pay it back to the reserve with interest. The dollar devalues with every dollar printed. We are spiraling down the drain! As long as congress continues to approve budgets that out project the income of the U.S. government, we will continue down the drain! Shut down the government, one of the big news stories lately, maybe we should? It maybe the only hope we have left! It maybe the only way we can limit government spending!

  • Alan

    Is Barak Obama the Manchurian Candidate for the Muslim Brotherhood?

    • Alan

      Yep, yall missed it again…

  • http://energysavers2.com Draiman Yj

    Moral and ethical bankruptcy

    Americans are finding a grotesque echo in the moral – ethical bankruptcy and worse of a substantial sector of American society.

    The “moral depravity” of “the Arabs” who kill innocent civilians. It is more than moral depravity. It is a culture that teaches, educates and breeds hate toward other societies that are not like them as they say “infidels”.

    There is no way this situation should be handled with kid gloves – when a poison strikes your body, you remove it and destroy it completely, leaving no trace of such poison.

    History has shown that these types of atrocities and acts of barbarism have increased in the past half a century and getting worse by the day.

    With today’s advancement in technology and telecommunications, the world has shrunk, events on the other side of the world affect everybody (like the Japanese Nuclear reactor fallout etc.) it affects our health our economy, brings fear and uncertainty to our lives.

    The financial crisis we are facing today is the price we pay for years of neglect and government abuse of power.

    Is today’s society heading toward annihilation, you be the judge?

    YJ Draiman

    The Qur’an 17:104 – states the land belongs to the Jewish people

    Every time there is a terrorist act, Israel should vacate an Arab village and raze it.

    In most lives, I suppose there comes a time when one has to make a supreme effort that calls for every morsel of more and more endeavor and more than not that effort has to be sustained.
    The Truth Is Incendiary
    The Truth Is Hotter Than A Pile Of Hot Coals

  • AJ

    Yes he is! See http://feeds.feedburner.com/FSVP2011.jpg
    The Fifth Service Video Podcast and under Current Feed
    Content click on Exposing Radical Islam In America by Brigitte Gabriel and watch.

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