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Is America Now Officially A Banana Republic?

November 22, 2012 by  

 

Hello, I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. Barack Obama’s election, the events leading up to it and the way the media have treated Obama certainly seem to indicate that America has officially become a Banana Republic. You know, one of those places where leaders control the media and the election outcomes, too.

For example, take the election results. Not a word in the mainstream media about massive voting irregularities. Not a word mentioned that Mitt Romney won every State requiring voter photo ID, or that Obama won in closely contested States that require no voter ID, like Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Nevada, Colorado and Pennsylvania. Was there voter fraud? We don’t know. You’d think an investigative reporter somewhere might be interested in this story? Amazingly, the media say nothing.

Or how about the impossible fact that in 59 voting precincts in Philadelphia, Romney got zero votes? Statistically impossible. Yet it happened in 59 precincts in one city and nine precincts in Cleveland. And in urban voting precincts in Florida, Illinois and Colorado (States wide open for fraud), Romney got zero votes. In many other inner-city precincts it was 100-1, 450-1, 315-1. This just isn’t possible. Yet the media say nothing.

Or what about the historic correlation between voter enthusiasm and winning? In 2008, Obama had all the enthusiasm. Not surprisingly, he won. This time around, polls proved that conservatives had a huge edge in enthusiasm and intensity. The tables had reversed. Romney rallies attracted 20,000 and 30,000 enthusiastic fans, while Obama rallies attracted embarrassingly low numbers.

On a personal level, I had reports from hundreds of friends and fans who excitedly reported three- to four-hour lines to vote in suburban conservative and Christian areas across this country. Yet we are told Romney had about 2 million fewer votes than John McCain received in 2008. Impossible. In multiple States there were reports of electronic voting changing Romney votes to Obama votes. Something certainly appears off. Someone should at least be investigating. Yet still the media say nothing.

Polls showed military members supported Romney by landslide numbers. So Democrats actively suppressed military voting, doing everything in their power to make it extremely difficult for soldiers to cast a vote. The media say nothing.

By the way, none of this may have affected the election results. Romney may have had literally no support from blacks, Latinos, women or college students in many areas of the country. Maybe there was no ballot box stuffing in urban precincts. Maybe Obama’s supporters didn’t vote multiple times with no voter ID required. Maybe the military really didn’t care to vote. But shouldn’t the media be mentioning the controversy? Isn’t it their job to investigate and prove it wrong? Yet the media say nothing.

Hurricane Sandy decimates New York and New Jersey. The Federal Emergency Management Agency’s response is pathetic, embarrassing, close to criminal. No food or water for days. No power for weeks. FEMA did not pre-position the most basic of supplies — like bottled water. They were completely unprepared, incompetent, invisible. This was Obama’s Hurricane Katrina. Yet while Bush was vilified, blamed and called “racist,” the media praised Obama, never blamed him; and 15 percent of voters call his response significant in their decision to vote for him on Election Day.

Then there’s Benghazi, Libya and the U.S. Consulate disaster. President Obama was warned that our Libyan consulate faced an attack on 9/11. He did nothing. The consulate asked for beefed up security. He did nothing. Four brave Americans died — including our ambassador. Obama’s Administration lackeys watched in real time (with drones filming it all from above) from the comfort of the White House Situation Room. They did nothing. SEAL teams begged for permission to rescue our boys. Obama ordered them to stand down. He not only left them behind, he watched them being murdered. Yet the media say nothing. 

Then he covered it all up. CIA Chief General Petraeus reported to Obama, declaring it a terrorist attack. But that reference to terrorism was removed. Obama, Hillary Clinton and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice spent two weeks falsely blaming a YouTube video. Obama referred to the YouTube video four times in a speech at the United Nations two weeks after the attack. This was clearly a cover-up to save Obama’s re-election. This is Watergate with four dead bodies. The media say nothing.

Days before the election, out of nowhere, the Obama Labor Department extrapolated that 873,000 new part-time jobs were created in one month. This “miracle” allowed unemployment to miraculously dip below 8 percent after 43 consecutive months. Perfect timing for a politician trained in Chicago fraud politics. The media say nothing.

But now that the election is over, the Department of Labor reports new jobless claims rose by a staggering 78,000 for just the first week after election, while The Wall Street Journal reports capital spending by America’s corporations has literally collapsed. I guess the perfectly timed one-month recovery is officially over. Any investigative reporter who reported on this fraud would win journalism awards. Yet no one in the media seems to want the job.

The Bureau of Labor & Statistics reports “real unemployment” (called U6) is 14.6 percent. Have you ever heard the media using the 14.6 percent real unemployment number and tying it to Obama? Or did you hear that food stamp growth was faster in Obama’s first term than job growth? During the campaign, the media mysteriously said nothing about those damning statistics.

Obama promised to cut the deficit in half; instead, he doubled it, increased the debt by a mind-numbing $5 trillion and presided over the first credit downgrade in U.S. history. Obama’s 43 consecutive months of unemployment above 8 percent was more than all the months over 8 percent from Presidents Harry Truman to George W. Bush combined. Did you ever hear the media mention that fact? During the campaign, the media said nothing. 

How about Obama’s secret tape about his love for “income redistribution” (the central tenant of socialism)? The media repeatedly pounded Romney’s 47 percent tape into every voter’s subconscious, but mysteriously ignored Obama’s tape for the entire campaign.

During the Presidential debates, Obama lied repeatedly. The biggest whopper was his claim he supported oil drilling. Facts proved drilling permits were down 60 percent under Obama. Two days after the election, Obama issued a plan to close 1.6 million acres of Federal land in the West originally slated for oil shale development. Still the media say nothing.

The media never mention Obama’s schedule. We are in a Great Depression II. Our economy is in the worst crisis since 1929. And Obama’s entire year 2012 was filled with golf, basketball, fundraising, campaign rallies and “morning zoo” media appearances. How is there any time left to deal with the economy? Well, there’s not. Obama’s Jobs Task Force has not found the time to meet in almost a year. The media say nothing.

Nothing to see folks. There is no story. Just move along.

The story I’ve just told you could be expected in Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea or Zimbabwe. I would never have guessed in America that the mainstream media would take their marching orders directly from the President.

It sure appears that we are now officially living in a Banana Republic. I’m Wayne Allyn Root for Personal Liberty. See you right back here next week. Same time, same place. God Bless.

Wayne Allyn Root

Wayne Allyn Root is one of America's leading Libertarian-conservative authors. Wayne's new book is The Murder of the Middle Class Wayne is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and Fox News regular. Follow Wayne on Twitter and visit Wayne's web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

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  • Michael J.

    Those who rule over banana republic’s, eventually slip and fall on banana peels.

    Of course the voting was rigged and the persuit of conservative destruction is relentless and undying. The perpetual war tactics being waged by the left would make Sun Tzu blush with envy. How much longer will the righteous majority remain silent? How much longer before mass tyranny turns inward and becomes canabalistic, only to consume itself and us along with it?

    Also, engineered storm of the century?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4P7Kr17RX8

    • GALT

      Ann Coulter is free* now…..( as in access for free ) and she told you what would
      happen if you picked Romney……..curiously Wayne is also free……..and going out
      of business………..just remember….keep the FAITH…….NO THIRD TERM!!!!!

      • Flashy

        Happy Thanksgiving Wayne Allen Root. how’s that “Romney will win in a landslide’ prediction you made in May and doubled down on in late October doin’ for ya these days ?

      • FreedomFighter

        Is America Now Officially A Banana Republic?

        NO – NO – NO

        America is a country under siege by evil forces bent on stealing and exploiting all of Americas vast natural resources, including its people, military forces and technology.

        These evil forces have taken control of mass media, most of government, the school system…

        We as Americans will learn to see what has happened and is happening to our country or will perish into history as greatest nation and people that would not fight for what they had.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Kate8

        FF – I wonder the same thing. It seems that it’s mostly the older Americans (who have actually been educated in our founding documents) who are standing up for freedom…
        And too many of the younger set, in their ignorance, have fallen for the empty promises of socialism and communism, yet again…

        I guess it’s hard to understand that which you’ve never experienced. None of us have known true freedom in our lifetimes, but we did have far more of it in our youth. At least we understand the principle.

        It seems that interest is picking up across the nation. People know things are really wrong. The question is, are there enough people left whose brains have not been rendered too docile to get up from in front of the tube, or to find enough people in our own towns who are willing to stand beside us against the onslaught that is sure to come when we make waves.

        BTW, have you all seen this video yet? I know it’s Thanksgiving, but save this one. It’s marvelous and very well done.

        http://beholdapalehorse.tv/

        Great article. These things need to be said. Thank you, Mr. Root, for saying them so eloquently.

      • Sharon Hamann

        >
        >> The piece below reflects my sentiments precisely.
        >>
        >>
        >> The Perfect Quote!!
        >>
        >> Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way that you can quickly understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. It was translated into English from an article in the Prague newspaper, Prager Zeitungon.
        >>
        >> The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President.

      • GALT

        While it might seem to be an indication of something, Kate……that people might
        believe that something is really wrong…….is not an any indication that they
        have a clue what it is………..and until there is a consensus…..about what is
        ACTUALLY WRONG……nothing will change…….

        In an effort to help….to determine what is REALLY WRONG…….I offer….

        That we have two choices………evolve or perish.

        This is a species problem ( homo sapiens sapiens ) which is ruled by it’s biology and a “brain” that is stuck in 50,000 B.C.E.

        With the advent of agriculture, we have been on a path to self extinction, whose final chapter began with the discovery of ( stored carbon based energy ) and that is now, rapidly asserting its effects, which are overwhelming the illusion of the temporary benefits that resulted from it.

        These benefits did not arise from any altruistic motivations, for this aspect of eusocial behavior in humans seems to be restricted to reproductive genetics regarding lineage, and not from any general tendencies toward pragmatic co-operative behavior among species members, who are tribal in nature and still maintain the dominant hierarchical model which has been with us for 195,000 years.

        Unfortunately, because our empirical understanding has been fairly recent regarding the REALITY which defines our existence, we are also governed by the “mythologies” we have created to explain our rather peculiar differences from other species, so that we are now faced with a complete breakdown of almost all of our previously held “beliefs” regarding every aspect of our rather arrogant claim to “superiority” over others of our own kind, and every other form of life.

        This willfull ignorance persists and is clearly evidenced, each and everyday for all to see, in every venue……….and because we are ruled by our biology, our behavior and our perceptions are locked into and “us” ( small subset ) vs. “them” ( very large subset ) conditioned response loop, which short circuits and overwhelms any possibility of “logical reasoned intellect” being able to overcome the “mythologies” which still govern our lives and will lead us to the first instance of “self imposed extinction” since complex life arose on this planet.

        We have no choice but to adapt to this reality or succumb to it, and we no longer have the luxury of waiting for the willfully ignorant to die and be replaced by those capable of acknowledging what all the evidence has made abundantly clear. ( some assembly required )

        For those who are capable of comprehending what has been written here and seek further knowledge regarding the biological conditioning we have been unable to transcend or escape from……..I recommend the following reading as the most efficient and rapid assimilation of the relevant information so that one may proceed to other “mythologies” which require disposition and for which this information is a fundamental requirement.

        Life Ascending: Nick Lane

        The Social Conquest of Earth: E.O. Wilson

        The Folly of Fools: The Logic of Deceit
        and Self-Deception in Human Life: Robert Trivers

        A Brief History of Thought: Luc Ferry

        Guns, Germs and Steel: Jarod Diamond
        also: Collapse, and The Third Chimpanzee

        In order to understand where you are going it is sometimes useful
        to know where you have been.

        ” To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!! ” ( and then HANG, separately. )

      • Kate8

        GALT – Fairly good assessment, except to put the blame for our “tribal” nature and ideological/religious mythologies on “we” is not quite accurate.

        The human animal is easily indoctrinated from birth with the “truths” to which he is exposed. Who invented these mythologies in the first place, planting them in the minds of early man to be handed down and modified according to the desires of some mysterious higher echelon? For we have been guided all along by some unseen hand, molding and altering our perceptions to suit their own agendas.

        It is only too obvious that, even as many are waking up to the realities that our “reality” is being manufactured for us, too many still cling to their cherished ideals and dogmas, enabling those steering us by crisis after crisis to continue the ruse.

        Who knows what’s actually ‘natural’ for man to do. We’ve never had the opportunity to discover it. We’ve always been manipulated into believing that our beliefs are the right beliefs, our way is the correct way; other beliefs are a result of indoctrination and are in need of enlightenment…

        The truth is that we are ALL indoctrinated, and that beliefs are only that…what one personally (or collectively) holds as truth above question…

        We are now coming to realize that everything we’ve been taught as truth is false, with the intent to keep us from evolving. This includes religion, science, history…

        What does true evolution even look like? We have those telling us we must evolve…but what does that mean? For we will never truly evolve until we can accept that all we hold as true is a lie, no matter what that “truth” is… for you can’t put new wine in old wineskins without tainting it for all time.

      • Kate8

        BTW, Is it natural for man to be controlled through fear, terrorized into submission?

        What if the “natural” state is a state of love and awe for all of Creation? If we were not taught otherwise, would we still perceive others as inferior? Would we choose to live in joy and harmony as a whole, even while perhaps living in distinct groups, and still respecting and honoring those not within our own groups?

        If we were free to express ourselves and talents unhindered, finding joy in the expressions of one another, would we still need to seek those who would control us, or seek to control?

        The need to control arises out of fear of not being in control, I imagine. The truth is that the Earth is bountiful enough for everyone if we were allowed to use it for the good of all, rather than being controlled by the few…

        …Thanksgiving guests just arrived. Got to go…

        Have a happy…

      • duaner

        Typical galt, cannot say anything of substance same for flashy on his comments. libtards for most and always. I know, i know, name calling and all of that, but your presence does not warrant any other type of response.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – I support your hypothesis. We are all indoctrinated from even before we’re born, since many say that babies do take in what they hear while in utero.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Galt says: With the advent of agriculture, we have been on a path to self extinction, whose final chapter began with the discovery of ( stored carbon based energy ) and that is now, rapidly asserting its effects, which are overwhelming the illusion of the temporary benefits that resulted from it.

        Well that confirms it. Galt has now shown himself to be certifiably-insane! Life on Earth, which to date is the only type of life we know, is exclusively carbon based, you tool! A major reduction in CO2 levels will result in reduced crop yeilds and world wide famine. Increased CO2 levels lead to increased crop yeilds. Did you know that green houses actually “pump” CO2 into there controlled atmospheres to improve plant growth, dumbbell?

      • GALT

        Kate,,,,thank you for both responses….I actually went through the first one meticulously
        and the hit the wrong button…it got lost.. and I am…..

        The TRUTH…..about life……is………YOU IZ GONNA DIE!!!!!!

        The “indoctrination” is about telling you, that what YOU KNOW TO BE TRUE…is
        not true………

        Us ( people animals ) knowing and seeing and living and watching and doing……
        and just keeping on….. to be keeping on……….DO NOT LIKE THIS!

        All the “other animals” know this……or if it can not be said that they KNOW this…
        they persist in the continuation of what they do know……

        WE live our lives in denial of what we do know……and don’t want to know…..

        And then someone comes along and says……

    • wandamurline

      George Soros found someone that hates America and on a positive spin for him, the guy happens to be half black….what a find. Soros owns the medias, except for a couple, so they work for him…and the puppet in the president’s suit has no problem with using his skin pigmentation as a shield of protection…because America has become politically correct, anyone who disagrees with his policies is a racist. Soros wants economic collaspe to make him billions of dollars….Obama wants it just because he does not like America and feels that America has been a bully to other countries even though we have helped other countries across the world. Soros is the puppet master and Obama is the puppet along with the medias, and the people who cannot open their eyes to facts are just plain morons. America will enter the “pain” phase beginning in January…I hope we have a lot of pain (even thought those who have a brain and voted against this regime will hurt along with the morons) because the only way the free loaders and the brain dead will “get it” is to suffer…and suffer they will beginning in 2013.

      • Susy

        That is right. One thing that barack hussein obama barry soetero has in common with Castro and Chavez Communist regimes is that they all consider the US a colonizer…
        Forward indeed…

      • Flashy

        Ahhh..the bogeyman is under the bed! no, he’s in the closet! uh uh he’s behind the door!

        Jeesh…

        Now tell me how many conservative outlets do Rupurt Murdoch and Robert Scaife own

      • Brian W

        Maybe other countries around the world don’t really appreciate the kind of “help” the USA gives them. Such as garrisoning most of the world with nearly 1000 military bases. Or launching wars to “bring them democracy”. Or running covert ops in numerous countries to subvert their governments or replace leaders the Americans disagree with. Or inventing rumours about WMDs or nuclear ambitions as leverage for military intervention. Help is defined as something that benefits the recipient, not the giver. It looks very different from outside the American reality-distortion field. In fact it looks a lot like the things the USSR used to be heavily criticised for. But no one is more critical than the one who has things to hide himself.

      • educated

        Education is whats lacking ..for people who believe this crap….
        people please become educated.. help this our Country grow..

      • Doug Rodrigues

        Flashy below has no clue about the subversion going on. How pathetic. Hey Flashy, I suggest you do some basic research to discover that there is a 5th Column in government intent on overthrowing the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Of course, you can just keep your head buried in the sand. In that way you won’t be able to see reality for what it is and you’ll continue to delude yourself that the world is a safer place.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Education is something that many folks on this site resist. They would rather cling to wrong beliefs than examine them. Self-examination requires thinking and thinking is work. They would rather live in the comfortable “welfare state” of the far right, sucking up every lie and distortion of reality that their owners feed them. And in case you don’t know who their “owners” are, I speak of the 1% that have convinced them to go against their own best interests and the greater good of the nation.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        I second what Doug says, Flashy. GO DO YOUR RESEARCH. May I suggest you begin looking for that fifth column behind every door that has “Republican” on it.

      • Flashy

        RBT ! Give me time ! i’m tourIng the FEMA camps and noting who is to be assigned where when President Obama declares martial law. then I’m scheduled to attend a NWO cell meeting, visit the super secret climate control facilities (y’know the site…the one adjacent to Area 51), I alsohave a report to read on the cover up of millions of those fraudulent votes used to swing the election and a memo on the success in hacking into the voting machines

        i’ll see you at the Currency manipulation planning meeting after that seminar you’re leading (I like the title ! “10 East Steps in Brainwashing Using the Alinsky Method” … Catchy ! )

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Speaking of FEMA camps, one of my hobbies is model railroading and I also do what is called “railfanning” with the real trains. I have been studying those “FEMA cars” whenever I come across some that are parked. The Fifth Column has already gotten to them because they’re all full of automobiles! How will we ever find room in them for the people that they were REALLY meant to transport?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Flashy says: Ahhh..the bogeyman is under the bed! no, he’s in the closet! uh uh he’s behind the door!

        Ha, and don’t forget the biggest bogeyman of them all, Flashy; the dreaded and evil, carbon; CO2! Oooooh, run children, run for your lives, the end is near, but first, vacate your premises and give us all your money!

      • ibcamn

        remember people,it took the progressives thirty(or more)years to lie,cheat, steal,bribe,blackmail,threaten and yes kill to get this country where it is today,in the [expletive deleted]!but this is what they beleive is the right path.for a progressive this is the start of their demise,because the truth is getting out to everyone now.it will take as much time to undoe what Obama and his henchmen have done,but it is already starting with what wll you people are saying now and you have to keep it up and keep digging and finding the truth,expose thrse bastards for what they really are.their are people who will tell the truth sooner or later,it always happens,history tells us that and that is why yhe progressives have ben rewriting history books and just plain trying to ban certain books about the history of theU.S. and everywhere on the planet!but you cant give up,Obama will falter when he tries to become a king!thats what hes wanted out of all this,he tried it his first term but failed,check it out for yourself,hes going to use several ways to succeed,but its up to us(we the people)to stop it.other ruling forces have tried in the past and its always failed!people faught against it once they see the truth for themselves,but it will end,we have to stick to our guns(so to speak)and get this country back,and save ourselves in the proccess!the uppaty group will turn on itselves and when that happens thats when we must coninue moving forward and keep challenging the gov’t,they will tax and regulate themselves to death!this form of a ruling class(gov’t)never lasts….although Obama told all of us his plan was differant and will succeed,but hes WRONG!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

        Reading your comments I see another moron,your just wrapped in an idiot

    • Robert Smith

      From the article: “. Not a word mentioned that Mitt Romney won every State requiring voter photo ID,”

      That’s because Romney already CONTROLLED those states where the voter suppression was going on via the ID.

      Rob

      • Kate8

        Once again, Robert, you spout such tripe.

        What you are calling “voter supression” is not allowing those without ID to vote (meaning ILLEGALS and those who cheat). You seem to thing it’s “voter supression” to try to stop people from voting multiple times in multiple precincts.

        Citizens are required to have ID to do ANYTHING, especially to collect welfare. What you democrats are actually making possible is for even citizens to vote w/o showing ID, so they can cast multiple ballots, and so the dead and fictitious can vote, as well.

        Thanks to you and people like you, our elections are meaningless. We may as well just let the PTB pick our “leaders” straight out… Oh, wait. They do.

        Moron.

      • eddie47d

        There is not near as much voter fraud as being claimed. Illegals have no reason to vote and would jeopardize themselves if they did. Phony hype in most cases.

      • Robert Smith

        Kate8 says: “Thanks to you and people like you, our elections are meaningless. ”

        Really? Well, if it’s so common why don’t you have some examples?

        The fact is that illegals WILL NOT take a chance on future citizenship and go to the polls.

        The fact is also that used to be opposed to ID cards. Remember that 666 thing?

        But when the figured that it would take some folks (particularly minorities) out of elections they changed their tune.

        The hypocracy is amazing.

        Rob

      • Kate8

        That idea about disenfranchising minorities is just more tripe, Robert, and you know it.

        Anyone can get an ID card. I’ve never known anyone who didn’t have one. Doesn’t have to be a driver’s license…

        I’ve never been opposed to some form of ID. I’m against having to show it for anything and everything, or having to carry it everywhere we go. And I’m against having them contain chips for tracking, and I’m against being chipped.

        Don’t put words in my mouth…or fingers, as it were.

        You democrats just look for ways to cheat, because you know that if you play fair, you’ll lose. Repeating the same lie over and over will never make it true.

        Cheaters always get their come-uppance at some point. I can’t wait until you guys get yours.

      • George E

        Eddie,

        The problem is we really don’t know how much voter fraud there is because we don’t have voter ID and strict oversight of the voting process. Until this is fixed many people will continue to believe our elections are rigged. I don’t think any of us really want that.

        • truesoy

          George;
          …and eddie, too..,

          But didn’t Romney lost Florida?. By the way, Florida is a ‘voter Id’ State, I thought you should know, that way next time you two can produce a more intelligent post.
          You lost, period. Accept it and move on.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • Jana

        Robert,
        I have been at the polling booth when a commotion took place. It was a group of 8 illegals who came in to vote. They had gone toanother polling station to vote and our voting judges were warned ahead of time that they might show up.
        I live in Tx. This was several years ago.They have become better organized now.
        Oh yes, what about the Black Panthers standing outside polling stations to intimidate? Go ahead and believe your assertion that there is no voter fraud going on.

    • JUKEBOX

      The old adage “HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF” is applicable here, looking back to the election of Jack Kennedy, when the Chicao vote came in late. This guy is far superior to Kennedy when it comes to corruption and concealment.

      • Robert Smith

        And your evidence is?

        Oh that’s right, it’s “concealed.”

        ROFL… Another empty right wing jabber session.

        Rob

    • therockscryout

      I think that these media outlets should be burned to the ground as they have not done the job that they are given to do.by our government to do for the people and Obama should be
      Impeached.

      • Robert Smith

        Not even Faux, oops Fox News?

        Rob

    • Sharon Hamann

      As abhorrent as Obama is, add Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and a host of others to that list. Oh, Chris Christy is also a self serving big mouthed piece of dirt. Just thought I’d mention him even though he is not a Washington toe dancer. Who in government can be counted on to do the will of the people and honor the oath they took to protect the constitution, an oath taken with their hand on a Bible? Not a single one of them. They are all self-protecting, self-serving money grubbing liars, all of them.This is made quite evident by their giving themselves raises, dismissing themselves from a national retirement system and healthcare system, and enriching their personal coffers with ill-gotten riches, like Nancy Pelosi and others participating in insider trading and “innocently” declaring she didn’t know she was doing it. If she is really that stupid, what business does she have in government. Martha Stewart went to prison for the same thing, why should this twit be exempt? Also, it proves just how stupid the American people are, and in a way, electing Obama is proof positive of that.

      • Kate8

        Bravo, Sharon. Well said.

        At least we can be grateful this Thanksgiving that these jokers are soon going to be thrown out on their behinds.

        It’s my dream and I’m stickin’ to it. Who knows… It could happen.

      • Robert Smith

        But it didn’t happen his time.

        The PEOPLE spoke.

        Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

        Put Sharon on that list of how stupid americans are.Run for office Sharon

      • Robert Rashbrooke

        Sharon,

        Martha did NOT go to prison for insider trading, that was never proven against her. What she DID go to prison from was lying to the FBI.

        I realise that it suits your bigotry to include her as another example of just how crooked the democrats are. We have posts earlier on explaining how our bigotry arises and what we must do if we are ever to prosper again, which is not necessarily the overturning of anything and everything President Obama has accomplished. Far too many of our population and especially those engaged in politics, say anything that backs their (often) bigoted view of the world. It is up to each individual to ascertain if what has been postulated is in fact TRUE.

    • walter agard

      You are right.”A banana Republic”

    • http://yahoo Charles Arthur Williams

      It amazes me that the Republican’s get away with charging the President with wealth distribution, when they have been doing it for 30 years with Trickle Down !

    • Old Henry

      “How much longer before mass tyranny turns inward and becomes canabalistic, only to consume itself and us along with it?”

      Let’s put the MSM at the top of the menu…

    • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

      No News here, same loser’s who blame Obama for everything corrupt bankers and wallstreet criminals caused to begin with. How about the redistribution of wealth to the wealthy from the middle class the last 12 years. Oh no, no talking about that…..
      Thank-you to the real americans who voted againt the real enimies of the U.S

  • GALT

    Would that make you an “official banana”? How’s that IRS persecution thing going?

    Will the Pat’s cover today? How about the moneyline on the Texan’s?

    BTW are you going to do a yard sale…..or a going out of business auction?

    Also willard is going to be moving on this Hostess thing………don’t you have a
    “quid pro quo” coming?

    We really should talk about the Nevada Corp thing……. ( and other real people things )

    Proper Planning Does Prevent Piss Poor Performance…….and IRS audits.

    You know where to find me……..

    • GALT

      Hey Wayne…..let’s do a blog…….we could call it……The ROOT Canal!

      Banana + Panama + Root = stream of consciousness intellectual property

      God do I LOVE capitalism……

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Excellent. In addition to bananas, is there any way to work grapes (SOUR) into the equation?

    • DaveH

      The usual Personal Attacks in lieu of Facts from the Liberal Progressives.

      • eddie47d

        You mean the comment from Susy? Petty cheap and a dog and pony show all in one sentence!

      • Flashy

        DaveH … they’re not personal attacks. it’s actually making fun of the mentally deficient and handicapped.

        BTW…no Mises link to support the article’s contentions?

      • DaveH

        Thank you for completing the Trio of Stooges, Flashman.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        No, no, no, Dave. You’re dead wrong yet AGAIN. WE are not the Three Stooges I referred to (and you stole my idea without crediting me—pretty bad behavior for a guy who is always screaming about “sources”). You and WTS(Jay) are two of them, but I’m having a tough time coming up with the third so far—no one sinks to the depths that you two do..

      • DaveH

        Brain (Right) says — “but I’m having a tough time coming up with the third so far—no one sinks to the depths that you two do”.
        Feel Free to dispute anything I say, Brain (Right). Quit hiding behind your vague generalizations and personal attacks and instead cite specific instances of erroneous comments.
        And thank you guys for helping me expose to the readers the level of intellectual bankruptcy that is exhibited by the average Liberal Progressive. One of your comments is worth a thousand of my words in that exposure.

      • Flashy

        I would nominate JeffH…about as much value as the other two you named RBT

      • DaveH

        Unlike you adolescent manipulative equivocating Liberal Progressives, Flashman, JeffH posts factual intelligent comments many of which are supported by referenced articles.
        Feel free, anytime, to dispute specific facts that JeffH posts, Flashman, and please cite some references to back up your nonsense (if you can find any).

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Good choice, Flash, but there’s a small problem.

        I said somewhere else on the site that JeffH and DaveH might be the same person—-that DaveH has a split personality and his two personas talked to each other. If that IS true, we would have to photoshop in a second DaveH in order to get “JeffH” into the group picture of The Three Stooges.

        I intend to make a buck selling those pictures—-they will be in great demand among the deluded folks that pay attention to anything the Stooges say as if it were actually the truth.

        And didn’t Dave mean to say “One of our comments is worth a HUNDRED THOUSAND of his words”? Or does it only seem that way.

      • DaveH

        Thinker (hardly) says — “I said somewhere else on the site that JeffH and DaveH might be the same person—-that DaveH has a split personality and his two personas talked to each other”.
        You guys are like little children, probing for any nonsensical way to attack your opponent, regardless of the fact that you have no credibility, and no evidence whatsoever to support your parrot-like accusations. And like little children, instead of factual rebuttals you must resort to name-calling, ridicule, and the other manipulative tools of the Liberal Progressive trade.
        For those who don’t know what I mean by “parrot-like”, see this very factual exposure of the multiple personalities of Flashman:
        http://personalliberty.com/2011/05/16/what-now/#comment-341969

      • DaveH

        Brain (yeah, Right) says — “And didn’t Dave mean to say “One of our comments is worth a HUNDRED THOUSAND of his words”? Or does it only seem that way”

        Another childish parrot-like comment from a typical Liberal Progressive.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Wind Dave up and listen to him babble—like those “squeeze the hand and watch them sing and dance” dolls—-same song, same dance—-every time—-so boring!

        And he is defending JeffH? Or is he actually defending himself because HE is JeffH? Or…..? I’m so confused trying to figure out “Who” DaveH is. I DO know “Who” Galt is.

        And did I call it earlier or not? Dave is predictably screaming for references for what the legal system calls “self evident” and doesn’t waste any time arguing about. LOL If DaveH had been Moses when God handed down the ten commandments, he would have asked God to provide “references” to back up the “nonsense” on the tablets. LMAO

      • DaveH

        Time to go back to your sand box, Brain (more like nitwit).

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Flaccid says: DaveH … they’re not personal attacks. it’s actually making fun of the mentally deficient and handicapped.

        Speaking of the mentally deficient and handicapped, Flaccid, shouldn’t somebody be looking out for Galt. He’s careening to and fro on this thread, and i fear he will do much harm to himself.

      • JeffH

        Falsy and RBT, it’s been proven time and again that neither one of you have anything credible to say…other than your constant ad hominem comments and your “you lost” or blaming “Bush ,conservatives or the Tea Party” for everything wrong in America you guys haven’t the remotest clue, other than promoting your “progressive ideals” and spewing your own ignorant conspiracies, of why this nation has declined to the level it is at today.

        RBT(anything but a thinker), thank you for including me in your DaveH conpiracy. That’s a badge of honor coming from you progressive whips.

        In my view your progressive behavior tends to be persistently, almost defiantly counterproductive to the rights Americans traditionally hold dear, and which the progressives themselves insist they revere, in particular, our inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

        “Good” is anything which advances the Progressive Program; and “evil” is anything which threatens it. Accordingly, individuals who hinder the Progressive Program are a danger to mankind’s very essence. They are evil, and must be rehabilitated or eliminated.”
        - Open Wide and Say Moo!

        Since the behavior of American Progressives like you guys is so often inconsistent with the values you (most of them, at least) insist they love as well as any American, I’ve concluded that you must either be prevaricators or self-deluded when it comes to telling us what you are are really up to. Either way, if we want to know what you really think, and what your agenda really is, we’ll just have to allow you your precious “freedom of speech”.

        Don’t need to be a scholar or a college graduate to figure that out, just some good old common sense and the ability to think with both sides of your brain. You really ought to try it sometime.

      • DaveH

        They’re getting desperate, JeffH. They can’t beat us in any kind of factual or logical debate, so they do what Liberal Progressives do best — Act like Children.

      • JeffH

        DaveH, yep. You’re a threat to their message and I guess I am too…but you’ve really got ‘em upset…and that’s a good thing.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      You have no right to use Galt as a name, considering you sound like a Totalitarian Socialist.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Once again, subtlety and irony are wasted on the iron-headed. Great handle, Galt—-wish I had thought of it. RBT just confuses them. And I can’t recall anyone up until now even making the connection to “Who” John Galt was? Took long enough.

      • DaveH

        Ahh yes. One misnamed Liberal Progressive commenter supports another misnamed Liberal Progressive. How unusual.

      • GALT

        GALT says:
        November 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm
        Yo David baby……..do you have any concept of terms like “pejorative” or “prejudicial”?

        pe·jor·a·tive (p-jôr-tv, -jr-, pj-rtv, pj-)
        adj.
        1. Tending to make or become worse.
        2. Disparaging; belittling.
        n.
        A disparaging or belittling word or expression.
        pe·jora·tive·ly adv.

        i picked that one because it has your “favorite” word in it…….

        prejudicial
        adjective harmful, damaging, undermining, detrimental, hurtful, unfavourable, counterproductive, deleterious, injurious, inimical, disadvantageous

        Sucks being ‘functionally illiterate” AND “willfully ignorant”, huh Dave……?

        Reply
        DaveH says:
        November 21, 2012 at 2:49 pm
        Yet another nonsensical personally attacking comment from Galt.
        But please keep posting, Galt. I couldn’t come even close to doing as much damage to your Liberal Progressive reputations as you guys are doing for me. And it’s Free. What more could I ask for?

        GALT says:
        November 21, 2012 at 2:57 pm
        yup……it’s DEFINITELY going to take a while…………wait for it………..

        Now this is not to say that my good buddy Dave doesn’t understand a good debating tactic…….as he tries to capitalize on the fact that I have designated him as MY SECRET WEAPON…….vs the “willfully ignorant, functionally illiterate” contingent…….btw the 3rd stooge, at least for me is ( never, ever ) Vigilant……….

        but Dave, good buddy……you have to be able to back it up…..BTW this is a saved file which will be posted at will, anytime I feel moved to do so…..which is everytime I see you…..and especially when you can’t stay away from me………….

        Also….for the rest of you that are having problems with this “idiot” and his cohorts……
        STEAL THIS POST….and use it……”duplication of effort against unrelenting stupidity……….is a waste of time……and time is all you have……….and you have my permission…..where ever it is useful.

        Hou 7….Det 7…….Wayne baby?????

      • DaveH

        I have no fear, Galt, that anybody, with any intelligence at all, will be influenced by you.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        So many Stooges, so few seats for them on our “team”. I had forgotten about Vigilant—he is definitely in the same league as JeffH, if not quite up to the other two.

        Perhaps we need to develop a “Stooge team” based on a football or some other sport analogy? You know—right half brain, left half brain, full no brain, way off center, left needs a guard, and like that? Would give us more positions than just the three. (Baseball won’t work because all these guys are clumped so far out in left field that they often can’t be found).

        And thank you for the offer of your words, Galt. I will also throw some of mine out there into the public domain for all to use. They seem to shut DaveH up sometimes. They’re not mine anyway—I stole them from Brandon of the Purple Prose and “Statist Thug” Hall of Shame Thank you Brandon.

        “Inanities, distortions, and untruths flow out of the dark recesses and rotten sputtering gutters of XXXX’s brain like a river of septic putrescence”. (Choose your XXXX)

        If that’s good enough to be used in a feature article that Bob Livingston himself touted, it’s certainly good enough to apply to our Stooges.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Too, many, commas, Dave. Makes it even harder to follow you.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Capitalist at Birth says: You have no right to use Galt as a name, considering you sound like a Totalitarian Socialist.

        Totalitarian Socialist? Galt? If by totalitarian socialist you mean; a global warming half-wit, then yes, Galt is a totalitarian socialist!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        BLT says: Too, many, commas, Dave. Makes it even harder to follow you.

        Just, be, thankful, BLT, he, didn’t, take, you, to, task, and, include, logic, in, his, comment. Phew…thank God; that would be like climbing Mt. Everest for you, hey BLT…

      • GALT

        YUP……DAVIDH……..you got that “nathan hale” thing down…..dude…..

        Way to go!!!!!!

      • JeffH

        RBT, try to understand your dilema…Progressive like you have neeb programmed to believe that “good” is evil and “evil” is good. Those of us who hinder or resist the progressive program are a danger to mankind’s very essence. You believe we are evil, and must we be rehabilitated or eliminated.

        I really do understand why we are your enemy.

        The progress sought in Progressivism was to be an ongoing process through which society at large would evolve benefit under the guise of “the state,” administered by specialists, scientists, and the expertise of elitst intellectuals. They also agreed that only government so populated with and administered by elitists could be up to the job. Such a government, they argued, has the resources and the expertise could accomplish such an organizational task.
        - Progressives and their “Tug-O-War”
        http://freedomlessons.net/freedom-101/progressives-and-tug-o-war/

        According to the Declaration of Independance, if you’ll recall, rights such as Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness come from nature, are gifts of God, and therefore precede government. According to the progressives something close to the reverse needs be believed. Rights come after governments because “rights” are the results of positive actions taken by those in power.

        In the context of individual freedom progressives seek to roll back, not forward, the hands of progress; they seek regression, not progression.

      • JeffH

        Falsy & RBT, thanks for letting me know I accually do get under your skin. Knowing that, I’ll sleep better at night.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyR2BaPKhVg

      • eddie47d

        If you didn’t notice Jeff H your little video ditty was slamming the sheep on both sides and that would include you. Didn’t you notice yourself and other Conservatives pulling your FOX brain out of your heads.I doubt if loyal Republicans would approve of that mocking slam on Bush/Cheney either. I had a great Thanksgiving Jeff how about you?

      • JeffH

        eddie, I really didn’t expect you to “get it”…the vidoe message…and I see I was correct.

        Yes, had a very good one Thank you.

      • eddie47d

        Correct about the Bush/Cheney connection? Yes indeed you are correct …..and about the straight jackets they are in and the ones they put us into.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Oh, so, clever, Jay
        One thing I can be sure of is that logic will never appear in Dave’s posts—he is too busy calling people 13 year-olds to be logical. And while you’re here, let me say that one thing we CAN BE SURE to find in your posts are the antonyms for honesty, and, truth.

  • KG

    WAR – Still showing your complete lack of understanding of everyday Americans. You know, the ones scrubbing your toilets? Of course, you are the type who would call someone like that a “Lucky Ducky” because they pay no income tax. Of course they don’t pay income tax, because they don’t MAKE enough to pay income tax.

    Anybody with half a brain knows what the Republicans were doing to try and “fix” this election. With all of the “true vote” people, the disenfranchisement of millions of eligible voters, and the outright manipulation of redistricting to make the safest seats ever. I thought you would be happy. This has got to be the most “fair” election we have ever had.

    The “47%” comment is what killed Romney. It wasn’t so much that he said it, but in the context and manner in which he said it. If Mr. Obama said that “he liked redistribution of wealth”, I think less Americans would be upset about that, than what Mitt said. Because it’s actually true.

    • http://yahoo bob peters

      the media is now no better than Pravda..There is nothing left other than secession or civil war…Remember the quote from the Japanese Admiral??” i think we have woken a sleeping giant”” well!!

      • DaveH

        They’ve been the Propaganda organ of Big Government Progressives for over a hundred years, Bob.
        For instance, a railroad lawyer, killer of over 600,000 people, member of the American Colonization Society, transformed into “Honest” Abe? What a sell job that was:
        https://mises.org/store/Product2.aspx?ProductId=172

      • Kate8

        bob peters – Actually, our media is so lame that many of us go to online Pravda so we can find out what’s REALLY going on in America. They report things we never get to hear.

      • JUKEBOX

        I challenge the media to research the last 40 or 50 years, and see how many jobs have been lost due to the stubborness of union officials, resulting in the closing of businesses. In the state of Alabama alone, I can recall over 100,000 jobs being lost. I worked at an auto dealership in the 80′s that closed due to union demands, losing around 50 jobs.

    • hipshotpercusion

      How are things in mom’s basement?

    • Bill

      The progressive movement is an easy sell with people like you. All of your comments and opinions are just forced fed mind babble that the propaganda media has fed you. What would help that person cleaning the toilets is a vibrant free market economy with opportunity available anywhere you looked. Just like the Reagan economy.

      We are moving in the opposite direction. We now see an overabundance of inefficient government workers with their hand out to take from you and give you nothing in return. Instead of helping you to build that business so that person washing the toilets can eventually become the general manager, the government has convinced small minded people like you that it is better to take from the business owner and give handouts to the poor, instead of Opportunity.

      That should be a good slogan for our libertarian movement: “What we have here is a difference between Handouts or Opportunities”

      Or from the famous words of Strother Martin: “What we have here is a failure to communicate”

      • GALT

        Gee all that might make a difference and you might have a point if anyone
        had a clue what your baseline was………….

      • Bill

        I guess it was a little beyond your scope of understanding, Galt

      • Right Brain Thinker

        All this talk about toilets makes me want to flush this whole article, which, come to think of it, would be an appropriate place for it.

      • GALT

        Sorry Bill…..but “What we have… he.ah…. is your INABILITY to communicate.”

    • Beef

      KG – The legacy media fixated on the 47% comment and ignored the rest. You claim (possibly correctly) that 47% comment brought Romney down. So, it would seem that media bias brought Romney down. Thanks for making WARs point.

      Three days after Katrina the media was in full hysteria mode. They had to wait until after the election to suggest that maybe more should be done for Sandy victims. I agree with one of the other commenters, there is only so much FEMA can do, but that fact only gets rolled out when a Democrat is on the hot seat.

      • Robert Smith

        Oh sheesh…. Here is some of the craziest “logic” I’ve seen in a long time. It’s particularly crazy because they claim that folks are responsible for themselves.

        “You claim (possibly correctly) that 47% comment brought Romney down. So, it would seem that media bias brought Romney down. ”

        No, the “media” did no such thing. ROMNEY was the one who said it, and probibly believes it. Why don’t you put responsibility on him?

        Besides, the “media” is mostly big business, you know CORPORATIONS. Guys like Rupert are in charge.

        Rob

      • momo

        Robert Smith says: ” It’s particularly crazy because they claim that folks are responsible for themselves.”

        Smith, this has got to be the dumbest thing you’ ve ever posted, and you’ve posted a sh!t load of dumb things.

      • Kate8

        LOL. That pretty much says it all about Robert and his cohorts, doesn’t it.

      • JUKEBOX

        I wonder how many jobs Robert Smith has been offered by a poor welfare recipient.

      • Beef

        Thank you for taking my comment out of context and attacking it, thereby demonstrating a favorite tactic of the legacy media. I stand by the notion that what the legacy media chooses to report or not report affects the votes of a lot of people.

        Also, thank you for pointing out that big business is not solely beholden to Republicans. We should not forget that besides the legacy media, Obama surrounds himeself with CEOs of companies like Google and Microsoft, and that Jon Corzine, prominent Democrat politician, was CEO of Goldman Sachs.

    • DaveH

      KG says — “Of course they don’t pay income tax, because they don’t MAKE enough to pay income tax”.
      Then KG whines about the “the disenfranchisement of millions of eligible voters”.
      So asking them to prove who they are, before they get to vote to spend Other Peoples’ Money, is somehow wrong?

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Unfortunately the 47% comment is sad but true. You, are evidently apart of the 47 % that is jealous, envious, and wish you could just steal what others have earned.

      • Robert Smith

        ROFL… Tell that to the retired military folks.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Your as nutty as a Holiday fruitcake Capitalist at Birth. It also includes all SS and Medicare recipients who number in the millions. It includes parents who have enough kids and receive enough deductions to not have to pay taxes. Maybe by the end of the day you will win the Turkey Award although you do have alot of competition.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Robert Smith, as always with your phony concern.

      • Marty S.

        Capitalist,

        It is no longer a wish for them but now a reality to steal and pillage the producers of this society. Only problem with their plan is they fail to look at examples such as the former USSR and see the final outcome of their stupidity.

    • Robert Rashbrooke

      You are only partially correct. Republicans are what killed Mitt. He proved over the course of a year;

      that he was totally lacking in moral fiber by saying whatever he thought his audience wanted to hear at that time, irrespective of whether he thought it correct or not

      that he had no understanding of how difficult life is for people living week to week on a barely adequate paycheck

      that he had no understanding of how hypocritical it was to stash his millions away in a FOREIGN bank to avoid paying US tax on it

      that by repeatedly refuting without argument or fact to back it up, any and all achievements of the Democrats, even policies that he had previously approved of and supported.

      Why, do you suppose, that the likes of Karl Rove et al, picked GWB and Mitt as candidates when there were and are much more intelligent people that could have been selected to run. The answer is simple – these two were entirely malleable and it was not necessary for either of them to actually win, that result would be an advantage, as evidenced by George’s win with Dick pulling the strings.

      Even so, close to 50 million non thinking people voted for him.

  • Roselover

    To KG, Just where did you put your brains? You’ve lived in this country for the past 4 years and fail to see what is happening? Obama can no longer blame Bush and the Republicans for our terrible economy, that’s not to say that he won’t try. And people like you will let him get away with it. Remember what happens to one of us in this country eventually happens to all of us, the most important one being LOSS OF FREEDOM.

    • KG

      Tell me, exactly, what freedoms you are loosing?
      I’m serious.

      • DaveH

        The largest loss? The Freedom to spend our own money as we please. Instead thuggish Progressives help themselves to 40% of the Producers’ money to spend as the Progressives please.
        Then there are the myriad other lost Freedoms, such as the Freedom to forgo the losing gamble of Health Care Insurance., the Freedom to choose our own light bulbs, the Freedom to perform services for voluntary customers without the competition-stifling regulatory hoops of Licensing, the Freedom to gamble with our Own money, the Freedom to buy Foreign goods of our choice, the Freedom to work the jobs of our own choice absent the prying eyes of Big Government (Income Taxes), …….
        The list goes on almost ad infinitum for myriad individuals all of whom suffer differing Freedom losses depending on their personal needs and desires.

      • Vigilant

        Every succeeding business regulation, and THOUSANDS of them have been established in the last four years, is an encroachment on freedom, as are:

        Every tax dollar that is redistributed to the indolent and irresponsible who choose not to work.

        Every vote cast by fraud, ballot box stuffing, or by someone not qualified to vote.

        Every moratorium on drilling for oil and every environmentalist-inspired disinformation to prevent its transport over US lands.

        Forcing businesses to abandon health care support to their employees because Obamacare has purposely made it too expensive.

        Forcing people to purchase a commercial product (Obamacare).

        Every labor union dollar collected from a non-Democrat to support Democrat campaigns.

        Every roadblock to the creation of a startup small business venture.

        Every misuse of tax dollars to support a failed and failing alternate energy industry as payback to supporters.

        Every violation of bankruptcy law that denies bondholders their share in favor of paying off union thugs (GM).

        Every illegal federal pressure to stop companies such as Boeing from building plants and creating jobs in right to work states.

        Every executive order signed to unconstitutionally override the will of Congress.

        Every failure to enforce immigration law.

        Care for more? There are a lot more examples.

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          KG freedom is being lost with a lack of jobs in the supply-side sector of our economy that creates wealth from expanding supply that in turn reduces Inflation on these supplies and lowering the cost of living .
          You cannot solve the Inflation problem thats devaluing the wages people make and how far those dollars go to buy essential needs is supply side economics is stagnate in growth as we see today with the GDP not expanding at a rate that even keeps up with the population growth . Tyranny always starts with economic inflation history shows us this over and over as nations have fallen over the centuries .

      • eddie47d

        Thuggish is always Dave H’s favorite word. He uses it like ketchup and puts it on everything Progressive. Except he leaves out the real “thugs” on Wall Street who jimmy rig our economy and make billions doing it. He leaves out the “thuggish” Corporate CEOs who reap millions in personal income while laying off the low wage scale workers. He denies that the Koch Brothers are “thugs” when they destroy the environment (number one polluter). He doesn’t say that Massey Coal has a “thug” boss who has a poor safety record and thinks his workers are literally expendable. He says he doesn’t like crony capitalists yet you never hear him call them “thugs”. He will gladly call union members thugs but not the real takers and destroyers like the Banksters. Somehow bank ponzi schemes don’t make one a bonafide “thug”. Even though by far those “thugs” do the most damage! Dave H will say that Banksters aren’t “thugs” because they are free to do as they please and they have customers who are ever so WILLING to get screwed by them. Yes the Freedom to screw people on the open market doesn’t make these cons “thugs” because it is ever so “legal”.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I am serious as well KG. When you come to steal my stuff, be prepared for a torrent of bullets directed your way. I will not give up easily. Give me Liberty or Give me Death. I choose to die free, something you will never understand.

      • eddie47d

        You are getting closer to that Turkey Award Capitalist at Birth.I do believe that most humans would be willing to defend their personal property (home,car,etc) if push comes to shove. Why do Conservatives always think they are the only special ones willing to do that.

      • KG

        So, what you are really saying is that you HAVEN’T lost any “freedom.” Other than the freedom to do whatever you want, which is not really “freedom” but more like Anarchy.
        You guys sound like a lot of spoiled little kids. It’s time to grow up and live in the real world.

      • steven

        Read the NDAA and then grunt three times real hard and then pull your head out of your ass.

        I’m starting to think that people like you and assie are plants by the liberal media or maybe you just hate America and the Constitution.

      • DaveH

        KG says — “It’s time to grow up and live in the real world”.
        You mean the real world of Unionists and other Thieves, KG?
        No thanks. I have morality. I don’t whine about people taking advantage of me and then turn around to take advantage of other people. I’m not a hypocrite like you, KG.
        Unlike you, KG, I don’t belong to the Society of Criminals:
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

      • Kate8

        Steven – BINGO.

        The WH actually does send out forces of internet trolls to come to conservative blogsites to disrupt, ridicule, malign and otherwise annoy, irritate and provoke.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get people to say things which will, one day, be used against them.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/05/confessions-of-an-ex-internet-shill-2155859.html

      • JeffH

        Steven and Kate8, so right you are. Since the election, the “paid harpies” have been given the assignment of destroying website blogs like Personal Liberty Digest. As annoying as they are, they’ve stepped up their attacks en force and it’s too important to stay focused and not be distracted by their likes.

        What they spew here daily can’t be allowed to interfere with our focus and our emotions. Afterall, it is their emotions feed them. They’ll continue to emotionally revel in their “messiahs’s” victory…not ever realizing they’ve been had, used, a tool for their own decline. Someday when the light goes on it’ll be too late.

      • eddie47d

        The thing is Jeff H if Romney had won then you’d have to be his useful idiot. Matter of fact since he would have been the President we all would have been his cannon fodder of insanity.

      • JeffH

        eddie, and you know this how? Is it that parrot on your right shoulder or the otherone on your left shoulder that told you to say that. Last time I voted I don’t recall putting my mark next to Romney’s name. I voted for liberty & freedom.

        How ’bout you…did you vote for liberty and freedom?

      • eddie47d

        Doesn’t matter if you voted for him or not you still have to live with whoever is elected. Voting for Gary Johnson doesn’t cancel that out.

    • Robert Smith

      Rose says: “You’ve lived in this country for the past 4 years and fail to see what is happening? ”

      Yes, I see it very clearly.

      Osama is dead, GM is alive.

      The stock market is way up.

      Housing starts are up.

      And, Women can still make their own reproductive decisions.

      Freedom in America is still here.

      Rob

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Robert none of this would be possible without the bailout with Tax payer funds , and the federal Reserve buying the 1.4 trillion Government red ink these past 4 years , all of which is unsustainable even with 100 % taxation of the 1.5 GDP profits on the 15 trillion dollar economy thats being propped up with Hope and Change .
        And again the womens right to choose was never threatened it was a debate over Public Funding the Abortion and Birth Control .

      • DaveH

        Robert Smith says — “Osama is dead, GM is alive”.
        You have proof for Osama’s death, Robert?
        Yes, GM is alive, at least for a while:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/15/general-motors-is-headed-for-bankruptcy-again/

      • JUKEBOX

        You forgot to mention that Solyndra and many other solar energy companies, as well as several electric car companies are also “DEAD”, mostly at taxpayer expense of billions of dollars.

      • DaveH

        Robert says — “The stock market is way up”.
        No, it’s way up only in terms of nominal dollars and only in relation to the lows which were established while Obama was in office.
        The reality is that the Trillions of newly created money and stimulus packages went mostly to the Crony Capitalists who are politically connected to Government. So naturally the stock prices of those companies have been artificially raised. Their increased nominal values (those values that are unadjusted for Real Inflation) come at the expense of the rest of us. So Robert is bragging about the transfer of wealth from the people to the Crony Capitalists as if it’s a desirable event.
        For those who would like to know more about the Real increases in the CPI:
        http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

        And keep in mind that those facts are only the tip of the iceberg. There are plenty more hidden dangers that are lurking to ruin our future. As that great transfer of wealth, from us to the Crony Capitalists, is taking place there is the inevitable malinvestment which is creating an artificial Boom. Yes, we’re in an artificial Boom right now, but the economy is so bad that the Boom is drowned in negative statistics. In other words, the stats would have been much worse (but for only a temporary time) if the Federal Reserve wasn’t pumping large amounts of fiat money into the economy which is artificially propping it up at the expense of Mom and Pop’s savings accounts and fixed incomes. So when the next Bust finally comes, it will make the 2008 collapse look like child’s play. And it will come when they run out of Mom and Pop’s wealth to plunder by creating excess money and Spending our Futures away.

      • DaveH

        I realize that the ignorant propagandized minions will think I’m talking crazy, but anybody who reads this book can see what I’m talking about:
        http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Americas%20Great%20Depression.pdf

        Those who don’t want to slog through some heavy economic jargon might want to skip directly to Part 2 — “Theory Inflationary Boom”.

      • Scipio

        Robert : Do you ever get tires of saying the same crap over and over again

        • needfulthings

          I know I NEVER get tired of hearing the TRUTH!!!!! Right On Robert Smith !!!!!
          Mr. Scipio you seem to be suffering from “ROMNESIA” Does it hurt much??

  • Patriot higgins

    If voting counted, the FED would not let you.
    Buildenburg finished buying the media in 2010 with FOX

    • Karolyn

      “Buildenberg?”

  • Karolyn

    I just hate when people say anything is “impossible.” ANYTHING is possible. Spending sure doesn’t look like it’s collapsed with all the people waiting in line a day before Thanksgiving to get bargains Thanksgiving day. There was huge hiring in October for the holiday season because retailers are expecting big sales increases. Response to Sandy was as good as could be expected, considering the scope and the fact that some people could not even be reached. Blame the power companies for the delays in getting people onlie. I do believe the military could have helped. BTW – Why are all of the people homeless from Sandy not being put in FeMA camps?

    • KG

      Well, if my Aunt had balls, she would be my Uncle.
      Yea! I want my FEMA trailer! Uh oh, I just remembered I’m a Republican. Never mind!

      • DaveH

        If KG wasn’t a Union Thug, he’d be an honest man.

      • JUKEBOX

        Always remember what Ronald Reagan said was a scary statement, “I’M FROM THE GOVERNMENT, AND I’M HERE TO HELP YOU”.

      • KG

        Ask those people who lost their homes that same question. How many people after Katrina would have LOVED to hear those words.

        “…though we came on different boats, we are surely all in the same boat now.”
        Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

    • DaveH

      Could those people be people on the dole, or working make-work jobs for Government, or over-paid Government Employees?
      When money is taken from Productive people, and given to Non-Productive people, the inevitable result is that the Producers slack off on their Production and the Non-Producers (who never were productive) consume the wealth of the nation until we become just another Socialistic Banana Republic.
      Read this article, Karolyn, and learn something (that is, if you can take those rose-colored glasses off long enough to read):
      http://mises.org/daily/5277/When-Capital-Is-Nowhere-in-View

      • Flashy

        “When money is taken from Productive people, and given to Non-Productive people, the inevitable result is that the Producers slack off on their Production and the Non-Producers (who never were productive) consume the wealth of the nation ” Which is exactly what happened beginning in 1981 as the wealthy and Big Corporate America became the beneficiaries of the largest redistribution of wealth in the history of Man.

        I agree it is time to bring the wealth back to the producers…the working man, the Middle Class…and the non-Producing wealthy can fend for themselves instead of living off welfare for the rich programs.

      • eddie47d

        The Corporate executives keep taking and taking in million dollar golden parachutes and then wonder why the company can’t make payroll for the actual workers. They dissolve the workers pensions, cut benefits for them and then pay themselves bonuses. Dave H will always blame the working union member and call them name but ignores the person in control of the pie!

      • DaveH

        Wealth should not be Redistributed to anybody, whether they are individuals or members of companies.
        The best way to assure that is to get Government out of our Marketplaces so they can’t manipulate business in favor of their Crony Capitalists, and to get Government out of the business of giving other unwilling peoples’ wealth away.
        Governments’ only role in Society should be to protect people from the Force of others and to punish those who defraud others (which is really just Force since Fraud denies customers the ability to make a reasonable voluntary choice).
        For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, Limited Government, and the PEACE which comes from not trying to cram everybody into the same size, vote Libertarian:
        http://www.lp.org/platform

      • Bill

        Flashy,
        So are these people going to start their own business’s and create their own jobs?

      • Flashy

        Bill….try building a house by yourself…or manning a production line … etc …

      • Bill

        Flashy,
        I have built a house by myself, and I did it with hand tools and no electricity.

      • George E

        Flashy,

        This issue, like so many others, always has to come back to “rich vs. poor” with you liberals doesn’t it? That’s socialistic/Marxist thinking if you hadn’t recognized it as such. You should know Dave well enough by now to know when he talks “productive vs. non-productive” he isn’t talking rich vs. poor. He means everyone who is productive and everyone who is non-productive, and he is no fan of crony capitalists who you may think of as the rich businesses. I agree with Dave’s statement, and you should as well because he’s correct.

    • Robert Smith

      Karolyn says: “Blame the power companies for the delays in getting people onlie.”

      Electric utilites used to be one of the safest investments one could make. Then came DEREGULATION and we got things like Enron. The trees aren’t trimmed, the equipment isn’t upgraded, and the 1% grabs all the money.

      SOME regulation is good, particularly for things that people must have.

      The right wing deregulated and people suffer.

      Rob

      • Kate8

        Many electricians showed up, VOLUNTEERING to go in and fix the power so they could get it back on for these people.

        FEMA turned them aways because they were NON-UNION.

        Same with church groups bringing food, water and supplies. As with Katrina, FEMA would not allow them to come in to help.

        THIS is the real truth, and it’s YOUR GOVERNMENT that allows these people to suffer far more than necessary BECAUSE OF STUPID REGULATIONS.

      • JUKEBOX

        You would be happy to see more great legislation like Dodd/Frank, Stimulus & Obamacare.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – FEMA turned no one away. Where did you get that from? There were mixups. I just posted one link; and I guess t’s awaiting moderation? But here’s another.
        http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/11/union_official_denies_non-unio.html

      • Karolyn

        Kate – I have posted another refutation to your saying that FEMA turned away power companies but it won’t go through. Seems I’m havig trouble posting. Don’t know why one link got through but no the other. Church groups were NOT turned away. Another BIN article?

      • Bill

        And the left wing regulates and everybody suffers

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – I belong to a militia group, and people living on the East coast in the middle of the fray were phoning in reporting on what was going on.

        It was from the mouths of those who were experiencing it in real time.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – Well, I heard nothing of the sort from my friends and relatives in NJ. Couldit possibly be (horrors) that hearsay was being spread by word of mouth? That is a very likely scenario when people are cut off from the ourside world. A great way for rumors to spread. Much like what we see goes on right here. Emotions were running high, and i can imagine how rumors, especially those against the government, wuld run rampant. I could find nothing online to corroborate churches being turned away an nothing about FEMA turning away anyone.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Some of the people who called in were volunteers trying to get in to help, and were turned away.

        The liberal media will never report anything that makes those in control look bad.

      • George E

        Kate8, Karolyn,

        The report I heard said that a local union boss had turned away help (to get electricity back on in New Jersey) from one of the Southern states because the workers from the Southern state were not unionized.

      • Robert Smith

        Kate, Kate, Kate…. “The liberal media will never report anything that makes those in control look bad.”

        There is very little “liberal” media. Fox with Rupert and Clear Channel (Rush and the rest of they lying right wing crew) is own by Bain (Romney) are a couple of the biggest.

        “Media” is generally owned by large corporate interests like Sony, Disney, and General Electric.

        Quit perpetuating the notion of “liberal” media. It’s a lie.

        Rob

    • momo

      Karolyn says:” There was huge hiring in October for the holiday season because retailers are expecting big sales increases”

      And about 18,000 people lost their jobs at Hostess, how’s that recovery working out?

      http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-11-21/business/chi-hostess-sale-20121121_1_hostess-brands-heather-lennox-gregory-rayburn

      • eddie47d

        There again the executives of Hostess each insisted on a $3 million dollar bonus and demanded it while the company was tanking. The workers had two unions and one of them settled and the other unwisely kept picketing. We have all become greedy in America and are willing to cut off our noses in spite of our selves.

      • Karolyn
        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          Karolyn the Company was broke in 2004 and instead of taking on more debt they should have liquidated , the vulture capitalists should be made to throw a bunch of that capital back into the pension plans , because without tariff trade rules to stabilize our economic value against the lower valued nations we are devaluing towards them now without credit as the subsidy we saw be the substitute to this Failed trade policy that started this trend 18 years ago . Look back and before then all these companies were at least sustaining for the most part the USA labor force and a self reliant Industrial base . Today we are broke and Dependent on foreign parts supply , and we can thank a Government that colluded with the vulture capital firms for this demise we face .

      • Kate8

        Forget trying to reason with Karolyn or any Leftie. They are hopelessly lost within the Hegelian Dialectic, and don’t even know it.

        If these people would simply investigate beyond their Leftist propaganda sites, they would learn the truth behind the “compassion” of liberalism/progressivism.

        But, it seems, they simply could not handle it. Their world would shatter.

        We will never be able to fix this until people are willing to see it for what it is.

      • JUKEBOX

        The Bakery Union required Hostess to use 4 people to deliver their products, that Flowers uses one capable person to perform the same job, eliminating three freeloaders.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kate,

        I would appreciate hearing from you the names of some of these leftist propaganda sites so I can go look at them. Every time I search for something with even the tiniest political connections on the web, I am inundated by multitudes of hits on right wing-nut sites that, upon examination, endlessly repeat the same horsepucky. They just bat it back and forth among themselves like a badminton bird (apparently in the belief that untruths and distortions will magically become truth if repeated often enough).

        Where do you suggest I look for this stuff that you contend will destroy my mind and distort my judgment?

      • Kate8

        RightBrain – You have got to be kidding.

        It’s everywhere, what you would consider ‘mainstream’, I suppose.

        Just listen to the news…it’s controlled. You have to actually seek out alternative news.

        I investigate sites which are neither right nor left, for the most part, but go after everyone. In any case, if you only listen to TV, radio, etc., it’s leftist controlled. That’s no secret.

        Do your own research. You would be one of the typical ideologs who will only accept what fits with your paradigm, anyway, so why should I waste my time with you.

      • Marty S.

        The unwritten story about hostess is they saw Ovomit Care coming online soon on top of dealing with the union and figured enough is enough lets just shut this down. Watch for this new pattern to begin occurring more and more frequently as companies realize the futility of doing business in this anti-business country. We are the laughing stock of the world – hows that for fundamental transformation?

      • Robert Smith

        “And about 18,000 people lost their jobs at Hostess, how’s that recovery working out?”

        For the executives who were in charge just fine. They got millions and millions. They are taken care of.

        BTW, what do you want to bet that they will pull a “Kodak” and all the retirees, who worked just as they were supposed to, will have their health care stolen from them?

        Rob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kate,

        “I would appreciate hearing from you the names of some of these leftist propaganda sites so I can go look at them” No, I am NOT kidding.

        Anyone who talks about Hegel should find it easy to comply with my simple request. I’ll give you one excellent site to visit to warm you up to the idea of “sharing”—Political Irony: Humor and Hypocrisy from the World of Politics.

        You say: “Do your own research. You would be one of the typical ideologues (correct spelling) who will only accept what fits with your paradigm, anyway, so why should I waste my time with you?” Denial and evasion, Kate—-go back to the first sentence.

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    ” Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea or Zimbabwe……………….” You forgot about South Africa, now the most corrupt on earth! The mother of dictatorships, theft, corruption and disrespect for the law!

    • Capitalist at Birth

      You must be referring to South Africa with the blacks in charge.

  • Rick

    barack hussein obama is the smartest and greatest man who ever lived. Just ask him, or one of his obots, and they will tell you that it is true.

    • Rick

      And, he is such a nice man too. Just ask them

  • virginia schloredt

    Welcome to the USSA.

  • http://aol Johnny D

    Anyone with little effort can see how rigged this past election was. Take my home state of Penna.. Obama won by 200,000 votes. Philly alone gave Obama over a 400,000 majority. The democrat machine in Philly as well as other hugh urban centers thoughout the country pulled no punches to post overwhelming numbers to overcome conservative opposition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

    Hey ya’ll please send this to your Congress person and the President to help the Banana officials to keep themselves from starving due to their own Ignorance in fixing the Fiscal Cliff .

    Dear President and Congress , I have been reading this article and the Unintended Consequences this Tax Law Change will cause is the topic of this Email .
    The First Thing that comes to mind when thinking about this Tax Law change and its Reverting back to the Clinton Tax on Estates over 1 million dollars is when you factor the Farm sector and how Supply Production is barely keeping up with Demand today a Demand that is bring driven by 1 Billion more people in the world since the Clinton tax on estates was changed in 2002 to revert back to the 1990s Tax rate would be devastating on supply production because the Current operators that run these businesses would forced to sell these operations because they do not have the capital to afford the Increased tax with the Tax on Inheritance of a family business , and this could interrupt the production of our most critical needs at a time when the supply is tight and at a time when the Greatest number of Elderly folks that own and operate these businesses are reaching the age of retirement and as these folks pass away in Larger than average numbers the transition of these Production businesses will be faced with not the same management taking over and major interruptions in production will happen , and this would not be the way to handle this tax code revision regarding the inheritance tax going back to the Clinton tax rate , it could actually create a national security threat of supply shortages that would be worse than dealing with the debt in my estimate .
    My thinking is that we need to instead consider the Subsidies that these businesses are involved with on an annual bases and reduce these Allocations as a Alternative to creating the revenues while leaving the Current Management in place on these supply production businesses so supply that’s tight will not be interrupted with a forced selling off of these businesses and new management taking over and the Learning Curve of new Businesses be the interruption in overall supply .
    Please consider these thoughts as you draft new tax codes for the Fiscal Reforms that are happening today to avert the fiscal Cliff .
    Thanks for your time and Happy Thanks Giving .

    They Are Going To Make It Nearly Impossible To Pass On A Farm Or A Business To Your Children
    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/they-are-going-to-make-it-nearly-impossible-to-pass-on-a-farm-or-a-business-to-your-children

    • Norm

      Tony
      If supply barely meets demand why are the taxpayers paying millions to prevent farmers from planting?
      Maybe this insane farm subsidy system needs to be overhauled.
      Oh I forgot, most farming is done in the RED states.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Norm I agree the Subsidy allocations needs to be Overhauled , and the change to the usage of Corn for ethanol needs to be stopped too , its using 40 % of our corn that should be used in food .
        The biggest supporter of the set aside programs that takes farmland out of production is coming from the environmental sector , these people are your various groups that want to control segments of the land for wildlife and such when its not necessary when the majority of the USA is public lands that support or could be better managed to support wildlife without interruptions in food production .

      • DaveH

        All subsidies should be stopped, Norm, because it is Not the Government’s money to give.

      • eddie47d

        The main reason for allowing vacant land Tony is to avoid another dust bowl and to rejuvenate the land. Sometimes not using the land IS wise land usuage.

      • Robert Smith

        Tony says: “The biggest supporter of the set aside programs that takes farmland out of production is coming from the environmental sector ”

        Actually it’s mega corporate welfare. Agribusiness gets paid for doing nothing.

        Rob

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          Not true Robert , groups like Ducks Unlimited pay for a lobby for the farm bill directly as well as the Agri Business sector because they are creating habitat and that results in HUGE donations to their causes . The same is true with how the Environmental Organizations use the Corn ethanol production as a GREEN energy to rally donation support with the cause being lobbied for continued subsidies but at the same time we are seeing stagnate supply growth and Inflation in our cost of food .

      • Kate8

        And guess what, Robert? Obama and the Leftist machine take their orders from these same mega corporations who control everything.

        I realize that it’s your job to defend the Left and malign the Right, but if you had any kind of integrity you would care to learn the truth.

        No amount of money, no promise of reward, is worth selling out your country. Make deals with the devil and you will end up burnt. I guarantee it.

      • eddie47d

        Then Kate maligns the left by fully endorsing the right so what is the difference?

      • George E

        Why don’t we all just endorse the “right” ideas rather than “left or right” politics? Wouldn’t that be a change? Of course, right ideas to me means dropping socialist/Marxist ideals and getting back to basic free market economics with more localized governance.

      • Kate8

        eddie – Please point out where I am endorsing the Right.

        What part of “controls everything” did you not understand?

        Some people are dense, but you seem completely incapable of understanding plain English.

  • Norm

    Wayne Allyn Root
    Isn’t it you Wayne who predicted a landslide for Romney despite the FACT that the pollsters had the election results called correctly all along?
    Now emerges your great conspiracy theories. Why not just admit that you represent a very small percent of the American voters, and interpreting FACTS is not one of your strong points.
    Romney lost big and Obama won fairly. Stop crying and acting like a 5 year old whose team just lost a ball game.
    Romney lost because he is an elitist liar who caters to the wealthy and has little use for anyone else.

    • Smilee

      What really burns them is that Obama, a black man, and his team totally out smarted them with less overall money spent and with a large enough margin that even if the fraud they say existed it would not change the out come and of course they have no proof and some of their so called facts are nothing more than rumors and they exist in large numbers in this culture. Voter fraud, loss of freedoms, and stumping all over the Constitution are also figments of their imaginations of which they cannot produce any credible proof but they keep repeating them and some believe it but none have not a clue why and when they get caught in this web they just blame it on a liberal without knowing why too. They are a sad lot

      • Walt

        Obama is not a black man he is Mulato. You progressives talk about racism. What??? The blacks in America are the most racist of all races. 93% voting for a “black” man. If only 65% voted for Obama, Romney would have won, but “black” racism won out. And if you would check out the history of the progressives and the dems, you would see that their agenda all along was to enslave the “black” people of America. Looks like they have succeeded and are well on their way to enslave the Latinos. Thank the Lord I left the country at 68 years young 3 years ago. And no, I don’t hate “black” people, otherwise I wouldn’t have moved to a country that is 87% “black” and 90% of my neighbors and friends are “black” However, we will continue to pray for America.

      • Kate8

        Walt – All true. But we are ALL slaves.

      • Smilee

        Walt says:
        November 22, 2012 at 10:12 am

        Pure hogwash WALT

    • Rick

      barack hussein obama is the smartest and greatest man who ever lived. Just ask Norm, one of his obots, and he will tell you that it is true. We did not lose a ball game you dumb A$$, we are losing America, but you are to blind to see.

      • Norm

        Rick
        losing America….??
        Could you go into a little more detail? I don’t understand how and to whom it is being lost.
        And yes I think Obama will go down as one of our better presidents. He brought health insurance to almost all, he ended an evil war, and he is working hard on correcting the Bush financial disaster. Not bad for his first term, and despite total unjustified opposition from the right extremists.

      • eddie47d

        Rick is an Rombot full of saccasm and a petty sore loser!

      • Kate8

        Norm – Health insurance for (almost) all?!!!!

        What about the more than half of the country who DON’T WANT IT?

        What about our rights?

        Another case of some being more equal than others.

      • Rick

        Norm, how old are you? Your king, ofullo$ hit spent most all of his time going around to the colleges because he knew that he could fool young minds into giving up freedom for Socialism. Actually, the schools have been programming young people to accept Socialism as a good thing for years. This wonderful free health care (Socialism) that you think is so great is not free at all, unless you are a free loader that is. It is loaded with all kinds of taxes and fines. Businesses are having to get rid of employees because they cannot afford it. I am sure that you think those businesses are just being mean and UN-American right. You probably also think that guns kill people, and that cars make people drive drunk. There is already a large Doctor shortage in this country, and that is going to get nothing but worse. But, obama will fix it. Next will be the Communism faze of his plan, where you are told what profession that you must go into, and what town you must live in. I want the wars over too, but you are a fool if you believe that your king has defeated the radical muslim groups that want to cut your head off the first chance they get. That is why he and his minions worked so hard to cover up the Benghazi Terror attack. He wants his naive obots to think that his apology tour foreign policy is working. Your king is not fixing the financial problems. What he is doing right under your nose, is Fundamentally changing The United States of America into A Third World Country, because that is what he thinks we deserve. I know that you think barack hussein obama is such a nice guy, and that he cares so much about you, but you are being deceived by The Smiling Socialist Deceiver. He is setting this country on an intentionally engineered path to destruction. Some people have eyes to see what he is doing but you, smilee, and other obots do not. That is a real shame, considering that we are all going to suffer because you, and other obots are so easily fooled by the great con man obama. Some day you will look back and say,” what was I thinking?” And, you will have to explain to your kids and grand kids what freedom was like.

      • Norm

        Kate8
        Only 2 groups of people should be uninsured:
        1. People with enough cash to pay their own way.
        2. People who will never allow medical treatment.
        Most people who don’t want any insurance are free loaders who expect others to pay their way. The paying others are people who have insurance and taxpayers subsidize medical costs thrush taxes.

      • Kate8

        Norm, In the first place, it is not governments’ place to tell us what kind of health insurance we must have, how much or even whether. This is not how freemen are treated.

        In the second place, not all of us subscribe to allopathic medicine. I haven’t been to an MD in over 30 years, and have no intention of EVER doing so. I will not take drugs, will not have surgeries, and have no use for medical intervention.

        I carry an accident policy for emergencies. Other than that, I’ll go nowhere near them, and I don’t want to be FORCED to pay for something I will not use. Nor do I want to pay for anyone else’s, either.

        I’m sick of you leftys thinking you have the right to manage how everyone lives, by FORCE.

        I cannot wait until you all get the BOOT.

      • Karolyn

        Norm – I am one of those who does not want health insurance; however I am 65 and do have Medicare, part of which I HAVE to have and pay for. I had no insurance for most of my working life and rarely had the need for it except when I was diagnosed with HCV. Even then it was not used much other than for what was absolutely necessary to diagnose my condition. I know how to take care of my body and VERY rarely go to the doctor other than for routine bloodwork.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – I was typing my post at the same time you were yours. This is one area where you and I totally agree. Had I not had coverage when I got my diagnosis, I would not have had the 2 biopsies I did have because they really were not necessary. Of course, the second one showed improvement due to my use of natural methods to address the heatitis c. That one clinched the deal for me on natural medicine and really stuck in the gastroenterologist’s craw.

      • Robert Smith

        Kate8 asks: “What about the more than half of the country who DON’T WANT IT?”

        Do you mean like those who already have it?

        Like the retired military?

        Those on Medicare?

        Like retired folks… Oops Kodak screwed them.

        Like the folks from Hostess? Oops the “executives” screwed them.

        Rob

      • Kate8

        Robert – We’ve had this discussion numerous times already, so you prove that you are just harping on a meaningless mantra.

        I DON’T HAVE IT, I DON’T WANT IT. Yet you would FORCE it on me.

        Not you, not anyone has the right to tell me and others like me that we have to, by FORCE, conform to your version of healthcare. LEAVE ME THE H*LL ALONE.

        You continue to prove that you are opposed to freedom for all, and that you think you have the right to FORCE other people to provide YOUR CHOICE of medical care.

        You are Borg, Robert. There is very little hope for people like you. It will be very hard for any of us to ever reclaim freedom as long as your kind are in control.

    • Smilee

      Oh, Rove’s crossroads group had only a 2% success rate and they spent the most of the super pacs, of course, he predicted a landslide for Romney too

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Roves a Joke , he will become a broke pundit

      • Vigilant

        ODE TO THE STUPID

        Today it’s Norm’s and Smilee’s turn
        Along with KG(B),
        To hit the bandwidth deep and long
        With post-election glee.

        Now Mr. Root gave paragraphs
        To pointing out the facts
        That those above just won’t address
        In lieu of crass attacks.

        The public schools produce such fools,
        The wolves in skins of sheep;
        Or are they skunks and weasels here
        Whose brains have gone to sleep?

        First “tax and spend,” then “tax and spend;”
        It echoes through the hills;
        Comes not from folks with common sense
        But bought and paid-for shills.

        Now history will take its toll
        On socialists and fools;
        It always has, it always will,
        And place the blame on schools.

        The time will come when they will see,
        Alas! They’ll be too late;
        The nation will have gasped its last,
        A product of their hate.

        And when that day so surely comes,
        They’ll be the first to cry:
        “I didn’’t know that I was wrong!
        Now kiss your ass goodbye.

      • Bill

        Hey Vigilant,
        That was creative, good one

      • Rick

        I’ll second that! Great job Vigilant.

      • Vigilant

        Thank you!

      • KG

        Don’t quit your day job!

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, in the words of the “Miz”…AWESOME!

      • Vigilant

        Thank you, Jeff! I’m sure it hasn’t escaped you that we who are targeted for put-down by the resident progressive idiots are the ones who argue most intelligently, logically, and effectively against their bankrupt ideals.

        I’m proud to be with you in the “stooge” group.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      It is strange, that most of the ignorant people that I know, who voted for Obama in 08′ voted for Romney in 12′. How is it possible that Obama won? Other people I have talked to have the same experience. The election was stolen. To believe otherwise is to be in denial. It is time to leave this God Forsaken Land.

      • eddie47d

        I hear Paraguay has a few right wing German officers you can hang out with in that little slice of “paradise”.

      • Robert Smith

        By Capitalist. Good riddence.

        Rob

      • Rick

        Dear Robert Smith, You are the UN-patriotic, UN-American in the room. Your the one that needs to go. Western Europe would be your kind of place. OH – And, take your beloved leader barack hussein obama with you please.

      • eddie47d

        Capitalist at Birth is the one wanting to leave America so how does that make Smith unpatriotic?

      • KG

        I know you want to seem smart, but, maybe, stop hanging around so many ignorant people.

    • JUKEBOX

      Norm, I want to see how supportive you are of the wonderful one, when you are paying double for your insurance, $8 for gas, $5 for a loaf of bred, etc. Oh, that’s right, Obama is going to give this to you for free!

    • George E

      Norm,

      Until we get some integrity in our voting process so that we will have confidence that the winner is actually the winner, this is going to continue. Right now it’s coming from the right, but when a Republican wins it’ll come from the left. We need to start with adding voter ID laws where they don’t currently exist and stricter oversight and enforcement of current laws. Some districts are so heavily right or left that it’s difficult to make sure the controlling political party is following the rules like they’re supposed to, the way things are today. Voting is supposed to be a privilege and responsibility, but when people don’t have confidence in the process or outcome, it becomes a shamble that encourages discontent and even defiance. So don’t chide Wayne and others for questioning the outcome of this election, just help him fix the process so everyone will have confidence that the winner is truly the winner.

  • sean murry

    Of course that SOb won by fraud he is not my president i hate him

    • Norm

      sean murry
      Well thought out and oh so logical!

    • Smilee

      At least your honest enough to admit you are filled with hate for him, so many on here hate him just as bad but deny it.

      • Kate8

        No one denies ‘hating’ him. It just has to do with the fact that he’s destroying America, not because of his race.

        You lefties are so obsessed with hate that it’s all you can see. It is quite apparent thay you hate all things Right…so you see everything in terms of hate.

        Most of us don’t think in those terms. We just see a problem and try to find a real solution without creating bigger problems, like the left loves doing.

        You never solve anything through hate. Nothing is ever made better by hating. It is YOU people who need to come to terms with this. You claim to stand for ‘tolerance’ and ‘inclusion’, and yet you only tolerate those who think like you do: the immoral, the depraved, the irresponsible.

        Nice job. We’d all be better off if you’d just get a real life and leave the rest of us the heck alone.

      • JUKEBOX

        I don’t hate him, I just hate his incompetence, arrogance, duplicity and hypocrisy.

      • George E

        It’s my guess that Sean doesn’t really hate Obama. How could he. He doesn’t really know him. On the other hand, he probably doesn’t like the things that Obama is doing and how he’s going about doing them. That has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with his political ideologies, his priorities, and his management style.

      • Jana

        Smilee,
        Why don’t you just admit you hate conservatives?

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Kate, you bleat: “It just has to do with the fact that he’s destroying America, not because of his race.”

        The stock market is up.

        Jobs are up.

        Housing starts are up.

        FEMA worked far better under Obama than it did for Bush who gutted it.

        And I’ll bet you’ll never day “Good job Browney.”

        Rob

        • George E

          Pop the corks. We’re in nirvana and didn’t know it.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      How about threatening to shoot him too so we can sic the Secret Service on your sick behind?

      • George E

        Just remember, you’re the one who brought up that subject…………..

  • Bill

    And a little thanks,
    I am just amazed every single day of this wonderful life that our free society has created. I always say that half of the world would be happy living in your garage. To be having these nice little comfortable dwellings, with electricity, running water, flush toilets, hot showers, gas stoves, refrigerators, and heating and cooling at the push of a button just makes me so thankful that we live in a society where we take these things for granted.

    We do not have wars on our own soil and we do not kill the losers of an election.

    My wife has a property management business that I help her with. We have a painter that we have been using for the last 5 years and we love him and give him lots of work. One day I decided to take him to lunch. And during lunch he told me his story.: He and his wife came here from El Salvador, leaving a war torn nightmare looking for opportunity. They moved into an apartment with three other couples and started working. They saved their money and moved into their own apartment. They kept on working and eventually they bought a house. The house was divided into two units with a detached garage, so they rented out the house and moved into the garage.

    They added a sleeping deck to the back of the garage and proceeded to raise 4 children in the garage. Fast forward to 20 years later and three of the children are in collage, one has a budding career in computers and Jose is estatically happy just running his painting business and living in his garage.

    So, on this thanksgiving, quit your whining and appreciate what you have

    • DaveH

      Indeed we all have it much better than our ancestors, but that fact does not confer the right for people to help themselves to other peoples’ money and choices.

      • Robert Smith

        Choice! ROFL… The extreme right doesn’t support choice for women.

        Rob

        • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

          Robert thats not true the rights position is they don’t want their tax dollars being used for Abortion or birth control , that doesn’t mean they deny a woman’s choice

      • Bill

        I agree with you Dave,
        I just wanted to give us all a different perspective on thanksgiving.

      • Bill

        Robert Smith,
        What a dumb ignorant thing to say. Dont you have anything better than that

      • DaveH

        Robert,
        The choice to kill an unborn baby seems to be the only choice that you morally bankrupt Liberal Progressives support. You certainly don’t support my choice to not purchase Health Care Insurance, or my choice to buy tungsten light bulds, or many other choices that really are none of your business.
        How do you square meddling in my Health Care decisions, Robert, with killing unborn babies?

      • JUKEBOX

        Hey Rob, if anti abortion people are called “PRO LIFE”, why are “PRO CHOICE” people not called “PRO DEATH”? Please give me a succinct explanation.

      • Kate8

        Robert Smith – All women have the right to choose…right at the moment they decide to hit the sack… And if they choose to do that, they have the right to choose whether to use contraceptives…

        You see, life is full of choices, and we make them all the time.

        We don’t need to pay for her contraceptives, and if she chooses to abort the child she conceived because she chose to be irresponsible, we don’t need to pay for that, either. She needs to be on her own. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time…

        The problem isn’t having choices, Robert. We always have choices. What you liberals want is to be free from accountability. People who refuse to be held accountable for themselves cannot be free, either, because freemen take responsibility for their choices.

        Slaves need masters and benefactors. When you want to have a benefactor take care of you, bail you out when you screw up… then you must also allow said benefactor to regulate your life and make your choices for you, as well. It’s part of the deal.

        This may seem reasonable to people like you, but not to those of us who are grown-ups.

      • Robert Smith

        Bill asks: “Dont you have anything better than that”

        What’s better than advocating for the rights for women?

        What’s better for advocating for the rights of every American?

        Oh of course…

        Advocating for the denial of health care! How can anyone claim to be “pro-life” and deny health care is a mystery to me.

        How can anyone deny an abortion for the health of the woman? In Ireland they killed a woman by denying her an abortion. There are extremists in America who would do that too.

        Can anyone explain to me what a “ligitimate” rape is? Is that like dunking a woman and if she drowns she isn’t guilty, but if she lives she is guilty and burned at the stake?

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Quit lying DaveH: “The choice to kill an unborn baby seems to be the only choice that you morally bankrupt Liberal Progressives support.”

        I’ve told you this before but your apparent compulsion to condemn other who are goose-stepping with you is apparent.

        I dont care if any individual woman carries to term or aborts. THAT is HER issue and only her issue.

        I’m sucseeding here in America where women can still make that choice.

        So, by your rules, for every woman who chooses to carry to term I’m a saint, but for each who aborts I’m evil.

        When in fact I’m neither. I simply want each woman to be able to choose for herself in the context of her own medical condition, morals, and advice from thse who she chooses to ask for such.

        Again, thanks for the demonstration of how your apparently prefer to lie rather than simply understand.

        I’ll save this post for the next time you lie.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Jukebox asks: “why are “PRO CHOICE” people not called “PRO DEATH”? ”

        Because “PRO DEATH would be a lie.

        Again, the CHOICE is what’s important. If that there brutal christian gave human beings “free will” who are the right wing nuts to take it away? Maybe he is testing each woman by giving her the “gift” of a pregnancy when she doesn’t want it…

        The fact is that in China where abortion is heavily coersed I’d be called “pro-life.” That’s what choice means there.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Kate8 (who blamed the media for Romney’s misfortune) claims: “She needs to be on her own. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time…”

        Ah, and I’ll bet you think it’s the 47% who do the most crime.

        Clue: Not everyone follows your religion of the American Taliban here in America.

        We realize that your brutal god who flooded the planet and killed everyone except Noah and his kin, watched his own kid get tortured on a cross, blew up a couple of cities, and allows parents to kill off a mouthy kid…

        Not good for human beings.

        Rob

    • eddie47d

      Great story Bill and true for alot of new immigrants. Besides proving that those from other countries work hard and earn their way. Their lives should encourage us not demoralize us.

  • Mynickelsworth

    We will be a true Zimbabwe before the end of this second term. That is, if we are not an Islamic State aka Iran.
    If the latter, there will be millions of citizens slaughtered in the streets.

    • eddie47d

      Why do you all lie so much? Are you thankful on this day for that ability to do so or just plain don’t have any Christian values?

  • http://yahoo.com hangman

    While Obama,Soros, the media, and other undesirables are ruining this country, a lot of fault also falls on the universities. While a few students, (very few) follow a patriotic path, Places tike Aggies, liveral places like U.T’s proffesors keep brainwashing the doped up students with socislism, communism. and any and all un-American ideas. And with the N.A.A.C.P.fueling the ‘Youse owes me,blood’ tribes, a decent non leftist candidate is on an uphill fight.

    • eddie47d

      I would say the undesirables are on Wall Street working their magic or in the Banks plotting their next move against an unsuspecting public.Gladly creating the next manufactured crises for all of us to enjoy!. “The NAACP” ; seldom hear of them but thanks for making them so important in your mixed up life.

  • FJKIII

    Were’s the military when you need them most. They’re kept at bay in faraway countries fighting contrived wars when the real war for our freedom is being waged right under our noses by none other than the POTUS! And “We The People” are losing the battle.

    • Norm

      FJKIII
      I don’t remember the part of the Constitution that allows military takeovers and state secessions. Maybe you need to go to South America or Africa.

      • DaveH

        Nor do you remember the part in the Constitution where the States are permanently bound to be part of the Union, Norm, because it isn’t in there.
        http://mises.org/daily/3427

        It is purely a manipulative invention of Oppressive Leaders that any person is bound by a Contract which they didn’t willingly sign.

      • JUKEBOX

        You don’t need to go that far, because Obama is striving to overcome our “COLONIAL” history and government.

  • Chester

    For all of you who really and truly BELIEVE Mr. Root’s story, why are you still living here? If things are as bad as he keeps preaching, why hasn’t HE cashed in and bought his own little banana republic? At least that way, he could institute the rules he thinks work so well in the REAL world and see how well they work outside his fevered imagination.

    • DaveH

      So you can take control of our lives, Chester, and we aren’t allowed to Protest?
      How convenient for you Pushy Controlling Liberal Progressives.

      • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

        Chester we could say that about Hilary when she said this back in 2007 why didn’t she and those who support her go find their banana republic ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

      • eddie47d

        What she said was absolutely correct and we all have the right to speak out. Seems like you want to stiffle the Democrats and that proves Dave H’s point but you are the ones doing it.

    • JUKEBOX

      I know for a fact that there thousands of people that have fled to Panama, Costa Rica, and other countries where you can live in luxury on $1500 per month, and this is just in Alabama.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cesar.gonzalezbetancourt César M González Betancourt

    First of all, ” America ” is a continent of many nations, and it was named 500 years ago… You who call the United States of America, by the name America are all arrogant. Secondly, the term ” Banana Republic ” is an insult to the American nations where they live off of agriculture, as the U.S.A. once did……And then you ask yourselves why the people voted for President Obama ! It is because of the arrogance and ignorance of you right wing, bigoted, religious zealots that you lost the White House as you deserved to lose it. And you can forget 2016. The demographics of the U.S. have changed and you can’t change that.

    • DaveH

      The demographics have changed but we can’t change that? How convenient for the Progressives. They can change things but we can’t change them back.

    • eddie47d

      That is what elections are for Dave H. and you will have another opportunity in 2016. The thing is I’m not sure if most Americans would want to “change it back” to the Bush years. If you can’t fire up your Libertarian troops and “change” the ways of stubborn Republicans then you may get more of the same.

    • Bill

      Wow, such venom mr betancourt,
      You must be a real pain in the a$$ to be around. So, come on and tell us what else offends you. Let’s waste some more of our time

    • Marty S.

      Sir are you implying that we are officially under a dictatorship? If so many of us here have already known that since the 2008 “elections”. But thanks for the info anyways.

      • eddie47d

        Some of us were aware of that from the 1972 election!

  • http://www.facebook.com/cesar.gonzalezbetancourt César M González Betancourt

    With articles as full of hatred as this one, it’s no wonder that the people of the U.S. reelected President Obama. The Republican Party has been highjacked by right wing extremist, religious wacko jobs. I attended two Tea Party rallies, one in Doral, and one in Coral Gables, Florida, but never again will I do the work of the Koch Brothers, Karl Rove, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, or any other right wing wacko. Bill O’Reilly’s hatred towards NON-Anglo-Saxons seeps right through his racist pores. He can’t stand the fact that our nation’s demographics are changing. Right wing conservatives think that they own the U.S.A. I am all for protecting our borders and many other conservative principles, but I am now cutting all ties to the Tea Party because they have been overrun by extremists as much as the Occupy Movement.

    • DaveH

      First of all, Cesar, you aren’t talking about Conservatives, you are talking about NeoConservatives. But speaking of Hatred, you should reread your own comment. Like this part for instance — “The Republican Party has been highjacked by right wing extremist, religious wacko jobs”.

    • hipshotpercusion

      Liberals=Hypocrites

      • http://mashedpotatobulletin.wordpress.com Mashed Potato Bulletin

        Look around hipshot, the GOP are the prime example of hypocrisy from everything from Benghazi to government spending… they represent the height of hypocrisy.

      • DaveH

        Do some reading, MPB, and you will find that the main thrust of this website is to educate people to the reality that Big Government is our problem, regardless of which major party is currently in charge. The Democrat/Republican paradigm is just a distraction to keep people from learning the truth about Big Government.

      • KG

        Dave-
        What you are saying is pure balderdash. There are differences in the two party system. It’s just that they are so fundamental, the room for any kind of compromise has been almost eliminated. Actually, I feel that this website is more about Mr. Livingston’s ego than any “education”. The only thing I have learned is just how crazy and insane some of these “Ultraconservatives” are. When you start claiming there’s no such thing as Germs, you need to think to your self “…maybe Mr. Livingston is a crackpot, as well as his minions.”
        Just a thought. No offense intended, just illuminating the terrain we find ourselves deployed in.

      • DaveH

        Balderdash, KG?
        Don’t they both build Government ever larger?
        Don’t they both engage in foreign wars against people who never attacked the US?
        Don’t they both endorse such things as the Patriot Act and the NDAA?
        Don’t they both endorse the largest Government Spending in our country’s peace time history?

        KG says — “Just a thought. No offense intended, just illuminating the terrain we find ourselves deployed in”.

        The only thing you illustrate, KG, is your ignorance and your willingness to Force your way on other people. In other words, you are a typical Liberal Progressive.

      • DaveH

        You could pick up a copy of this book, KG, and learn some reality, but then that would go against your Union Sensibilities to learn something, wouldn’t it?
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        KG says: Just a thought. No offense intended, just illuminating the terrain we find ourselves deployed in.

        Yes KG, we are well aware of your deployment and understand the reasons for your presence here. Thanks for your thought just the same, as it does illuminate the reason for your deployment on this terrain. No offence taken. However, you might want to consider flushing the toilet once in a while…phew, you progs stink up the joint something awful!

    • eddie47d

      Maybe someday Dave H and Hipshot will wake up and realize they HAVE BEEN overrun by “right wing zealots”. If you haven’t noticed by now then you aren’t paying attention!

    • Bill

      So, cesar,
      Are you leaving the Tea Party and going back to your roots with the socialist party?

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Cesar, you must understand. the people you mentioned are in for their arbitron ratings. Those determine how much they can charge advertiser on their shows, now much money they can make. Your right, they want to make money while fighting a “Patriotic” cause. Men like Bob Livinston are a rare breed. Of course he has to make money but he won’t sacrifice his convictions for it. His adverisers must share the same views. Not so with the names you mentioned. As a Christian you have hope. Your efforts are simply your Christian duty. Your “arbitron ratings” pay off in the next life. Read John 3:16. The country might fall into the abyss but you won’t.

    • JUKEBOX

      It takes a racist to recognize real racism.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Well said, Cesar. You clearly have your eyes open. Pay no attention to DaveH. Among his many other blind spots, the distinction between “strong feelings” and “hatred” is beyond his vision. If you want to see some hate on this site, it is easy to find and it comes from people that Dave relates well to.

      And thanks for the laugh, Dave. I refer to you saying this site “educates”. What it really does is serve as a place for people like you to reinforce each other in your delusions and indoctrinate each other, i.e., strengthen the “groupthink”, no matter how sick and twisted and just plain WRONG that “thinking” may be. Those of us who worked in education or have been truly educated in academia and life know that—too bad you won’t give us a single inch when we try to do for you what was our life’s work.

      • DaveH

        Don’t you guys ever tire of issuing your Childish Personal Attacks, Brain (sure), as if they mean anything at all to intelligent people?
        Try something new. Try saying something factual and logical.

      • DaveH

        RBT says — “Those of us who worked in education”.
        You worked in education, RBT? Wow, must have been many decades ago, because I all see in your comments are personal attacks that any adolescent school yard bully might issue since he has no real knowledge.
        But again, I can’t thank you enough for exposing to the readers of PL the depths of Liberal Progressive Depravity.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

      Cesar says: I am all for protecting our borders and many other conservative principles, but I am now cutting all ties to the Tea Party because they have been overrun by extremists as much as the Occupy Movement.

      Kudos Cesar, a true statement if there ever was. But tell me, if a take-over and control of the two movements mentioned above can be so easily obtained, might there be one that is impervious? And if so, which one?

  • hipshotpercusion

    Norm says “Obamao will go down as one of our best (sic)presidents.” He most likely hasn’t lived long enough to make such a statement. I remember just like it was yesterday 49 years ago today, one of our best Presidents was shot to death in Dallas Texas.Obamao wouldn’t make a pimple on JFKs rump!

  • kert

    grow up republicans –your history –no crap —-you blew it with rommney —and such like palin —mccain —wrap it up

    • http://www.facebook.com/tony.newbill1 Tony Newbill

      The Republican Establishment shoved Romney down our throats and that will be the last time they do this I bet . the Race would have been a Lot funner to watch if Newt would have had a debate with Obama , I don’t think Newt would have held back . And his baggage would have been seen as lame compared to Romneys Vulture economics which I totally saw as a Big Conflict of Interest regarding his claim to know how to fix the economy when he was a Part of the out sourcing that he made his big bucks with . Total Hypocrisy that far out paced any of Obamas because of the direct effect this was seen in the pockets of the Average American .

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        The “Republicans” have an agenda and it’s far from restoring America to a God fearing Constitutional Republic. They want to pick at the carcass of America but in slightly different way. If I had rate them, I’d say the republicans are for fascism while the democrats lean toward communism. As far as working America goes, if you can tell me the difference I’d like to know. How do you think Washington, Jefferson, Adams and their ilk would fare in today’s America? Bout the same as Ron Paul did I imagine.

      • Jana

        Kert,
        Not all of us had a choice. Texas and a lot of other states vote so late in the primaries that the choice has already been made and the candidate we think would be right has dropped out. Our primaries are in May. WE NEVER HAVE A CHOICE. This is wrong. All of the primaries should be on the same day.

        • George E

          I definitely agree with you.

    • DaveH

      You might be right, Kert, but if you did some studying you would find that the Democrats offer you no more. You could start here if you want to remove the blinders:
      http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

      • GALT

        Or you could stay right here and read this……saves a WHOLE LOT OF TIME!!!!

        a brief excerpt from the book Econned.

        “In 1776, Adam Smith published The Wealth fof Nations. In it he argued that the uncoordinated actions of large numbers of individuals, each acting out of self interest, sometimes produced , as if by “an invisible hand,”results that were beneficial to broader society. Smith also pointed out that self interested actions frequently led to injustice or even ruin. He fiercely criticized both how employers colluded with each other to keep wages low, as well as the ” savage injustice ” that European mercantilist interests had “commited with impunity” in colonies in Asia and the Americas.

        Smith’s ideas were cherry picked and turned into a simplistic ideology that now dominates university economics departments. This theory proclaims that the “invisible hand” ensures that economic interest will always lead to the best outcomes imaginable. It follows that any restrictions on the profit seeking activities of individuals and corporations interfer with this invisible hand, and therefor are “inefficient” and nonsensical.

        According to this line of thinking, individuals have perfect knowledge both of what they want and everything happening in the world at large,and so they pass there lives making intelligent decisions. Prices may change in ways that appear random, but this randomness follows predictable and unchanging rules and is never violently chaotic. It is therefore possible for corporations to use clever techniques to reduce and even eliminate the risks associated with their business. The result is a stable productive economy that represents the apex of civilization.

        This heartwarming picture airbrushes out nearly all of the real business world.”

  • http://www.advertisingfactory.net Ernest Hemple

    We need to stop talking about the problem and start fighting back. The first thing we need to do is to stop doing business with the worst offenders. Let’s start with NBC. No one should watch this network. No one should ever purchase any item from any NBC advertiser. I mean never again. Put them out of business. The let’s move to CBS. During this time, if the stock of these companies fall, conservatives should buy control. We must all get on the same page and recognize that we are at war and if we don’t fight back, we will not be able to in the near future.

    • KG

      You guys are already doing that – it’s called FOX. And the largest newspaper owner in America – Mclachy – another known right winger. So, in SPITE of these “propaganda” machines, Obama won. Now, what does that tell you?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        It should tell you that Fox played its part in propping up the illusion that Americans have a choice, dumbbell!

  • Susy

    The present regime is already training youth corps as promised, the first class graduated about a month ago. Homeland “Security” has its new armored trucks rolling in our cities, the press is on the side of the regime to “see no evil, hear no evil and talk no evil”. All these were things that Castro instituted in Cuba from the very start… This is why I consider Cuba a small trial run of what was to be instituted in this country…

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Castro is a devout Communist and rules / ruled Cuba that way. The people running America are working from the same instruction manual. FDR was the first Communist president in America. (Government / Government controlled) is theiir motto. They will work with Fascism (privately owned / government controlled) to a point but pure Communism is their goal. There is steps toward the completion of their goals. Thesis, anti-Thesis, Synthesis.

      Thesis: A country running along with a stable government philosophy
      Anti- Thesis: A country in turmoil. The government philosophy is in dispute
      Synthesis: What comes out of that state of turmoil.
      If the Communist have their way, government owned / government controlled will be the philosophy the country adopted. Communist are patient, like a serpent in pursuit of a mouse. Lies and deceit are the order of the day. Stalin said: Promises are like pie crust, made to be broken. Stalin’s thinking is mentoring Obama

      • momo

        How dialectically Hegalian.

      • eddie47d

        Most Americans look at FDR as a great President and you condemn him. That is your American right. Dave H attacks Lincoln all the time and that is his right even when he is considered one of the greatest. Some will say Reagan is a very great man but I can present evidence of all his failings and “prove” that he wasn’t so great. So is that what this nation has become where we tear our leaders down and none are worthy to be used except as toilet paper?

      • DaveH

        I think what it amounts to, Christian, is Leaders seeking absolute power. They don’t really care if it’s Communism, Fascism, or some other ‘ism as long as they obtain that absolute power.

      • JUKEBOX

        Don’t forget the instructions that were in “MEIN KAMPF” for the establishment of the National Socialist Party.

      • KG

        I love hearing people spout-off crap that they learned from Rush or Beck. It’s like “Hey, I can sound smart, too!”

      • DaveH

        Sounding Smart is one thing we don’t have to worry about coming from you, KG.

    • ChuckS

      Maybe not just Cuba. It’s likely that Obama or some of his people have studied how most dictators have taken over their countries and are trying the “best” methods they found. Maybe more dictators who got elected, like Julius Caesar and Hitler. Incidentally, I don’t think Hitler had death camps until 1938 – 5 years into his regime. If Obama does want a dictatorship, he wouldn’t necessarily be on the same schedule – more likely event related, like some time after he takes our guns and censors the internet and other media.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    The only reason you would not call America a Banana Republic is because America lives by the rule “Might makes right”. Weighing assets vs. liabilities, America is probably the brokest country of them all. We seem satisfied trading with counterfeit Federal Reserve NOTES and our positon as being the supplier of the world’s soverign currency, Federal Reseve NOTES, works toward the people running America’s goals, that being the head of a one world Empire.The real power, the Creator of everything worthwhile has different plans spelled out as prophecies in the bible. The bible contains 66 books written by 40 authors over a period of 1,400 years. The books have proved each other out over a period of time. What it says is each and every one of us takes our next breath at the Creators pleasure. America is great because America is good. When America ceases to be good, it will cease to great. Read and believe John 3:16. You’ll have happy thinksgivings throughout all of eternity.

  • Gene

    It doesn’t matter anymore. The people chose socialism over capitalism in the last election regardless what BHO says. This once-great country is no more. As a life-long conservative, I give up and don’t care what happens now. I am tired of the so-called Republicans in office rolling over and caving into demands from the left. I am tired of the state-run media being skewed to the left, and then bragging about it. I am tired of seeing my tax dollars go to other third-world dictators. I am tired of BHO passing executive orders and naming un-elected CZARS. I am tired of the lying…on BOTH sides of the aisle. I am tired of the TSA…regardless who started it…interferring into private lives and conducting illegal searches.
    Goodbye America…hello United Socialist States.

    • Bill

      Gene,
      It is so sad to say but you are on the money. China and Russia will just surpass us financially and we will be fighting over the scraps of a non productive nation. As we are raising our taxes on dividend incomes (talking about hurting old people) from 15% to as high as 40%, China just reduced their tax on dividends to 5%.

      Talk about knowing how to create prosperity!!.

  • knwmn

    Wayne:
    You are about as American as Jospeh Stalin. Obama won, the community organizer, won. Romney, the money changer, lost. Jesus warned us to be wary of money changers. Americans by a majority, voted for the better candidate. Learn from it.

    • DaveH

      And the Bible warned us that “Thou shalt not Bear False Witness against Thy Neighbor” and that “Thou shalt not Steal”. But that hasn’t stopped you Liberal Progressives, has it?

      • JUKEBOX

        Liberals do not let facts or truth interfere with their opinions.

      • Black Hat

        thats easy as republicans and conservatives never use truth or facts

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        JUKEBOX, a better statement; Politicians do not let facts or truth interfere with their self-serving policies.

      • DaveH

        Feel Free, Black Hat (now that’s a fitting Liberal Progressive name), to demonstrate specifically the error in anything we say.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Jesus did not warn against money changers. They worked for a living.

      • Kate8

        I’d be interested in having you elaborate on that statement, Nadzieja.

        Money changers “work” through deceit and theft, and use their wiles to enslave people. That’s why Yeshua drove them out of the temple.

  • Lawrence

    At this time in history it is especially true when the bible says not to put any trust in man. Put your trust in GOD!

    • DaveH

      But the Bible was written by men. So we’re back to putting our trust in men.

      • Jana

        DaveH,
        The Bible was Inspired by God using man as the instruments.

        • pissed off and liberal

          Jana
          The bible was written by men who were interpeting events around them in the only way they knew how a spiritual way.So DaveH was technically correct by trusting the bible you trust the interpretation of men.

  • ranger09

    Billions of our Dollars went to Africa, OH im sorry Billions went to the leaders. The Media no longer cares about Right and Wrong,Truth and Honesty, They only care about the Money and Protection of the Powers to Be.. But being Sheep WE just keep on following the Bell. Any fool knows that the Election was Fixed, But that was Normal.

  • ranger09

    I may be a fool but i never figured Obama could ever win any election, But i gave to much credit to what Americans are still out there. Only time you can have a good Economy IS TO HAVE JOBS, And i dont mean MORE NONE PRODUCING GOVT JOBS..

  • MD

    Sleazy, but effective. The best way for conservatives to try and steal elections (didn’t work this time despite your best efforts) is to try and make it look like the Liberals are doing it. But look up election fraud on the uncensored Internet and its overwhelmingly about Republican dirty tricks.
    NEWSFLASH- the “Liberal” Controlled media is controlled by very huge, very conservative companies. How does that work, exactly??

  • ranger09

    My Family was an American before America became America, My GrandFather once told me about this Great Land as it once was. He also told me that your Enemy was one that wanted to take from you what was yours, And also if you wanted to take from him. Now i look back and see what it was, Now i look and see what we have made it into. And we only have Greed And Power to thank for this. But we never learn from History.

    • DaveH

      One of the problems, ranger, is that the history we’ve been taught is largely fabricated to favor the leaders.
      Here is a book that gives a clearer picture of our history from the colonial period to the revolution;
      http://library.mises.org/books/Murray%20N%20Rothbard/Conceived%20in%20Liberty_Vol_2.pdf

      • KG

        Dave –
        If you put one more Misies link up, I’m personaly going to….to…oh,heck. Let ‘em read it. Maybe they will learn what a Nazi he was.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        KG says: Dave –
        If you put one more Misies link up, I’m personaly going to….to…oh,heck. Let ‘em read it. Maybe they will learn what a Nazi he was.

        Hmm, a Nazi you say. You know, it is possible that after all those years you spent with your snout up Obama’s butt, you are now seeing Nazi’s everywhere, as a direct result. Something for you to consider…

      • DaveH

        Mises was a Nazi, KG? I assume you have evidence to support that lie? Like when pigs can fly.
        And one big problem, KG — the author was not Ludwig Von Mises. He was Murray Rothbard. You’d know that if you quit being an ignoramus and actually read it.

      • KG
      • JeffH

        KG, not even a nice try. Reaching for straws…you obviously failed. Von Mises a Nazi? Hardly! You “right brain thinkers” really are a piece of work.

        Mises was one of the 20th century’s most principled and pugnacious opponents of fascism.

        Read Ludwig von Mises’s unabridged thoughts on fascism:
        http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/ludwig-von-mises-on-fascism/

      • KG

        You cannot deny the fact that he felt as though Fascism was almost “Necessary” for the survival of Europe. Tell that to his Jewish relatives.

        It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization. The merit that Fascism has thereby won for itself will live on eternally in history. But though its policy has brought salvation for the moment, it is not of the kind which could promise continued success. Fascism was an emergency makeshift. To view it as something more would be a fatal error. (From Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism, section I:10)

        Sorta like when Bush said “It would easier if I were a dictator.” And knowing that Mises, along with Milton Friedman as well as Hayek all visited Pinochets’ Chile and tried to “help” his “good dictatorship” in economic terms. How many Economists do we worship who helped Castro? I can’t think of any. But the economists trying to preserve a Right Wing murder are worshiped by many in this forum. So, who’s the real Patriot?

  • Frank

    If the media was restrcited, individuals such as you would not be on websites. The people in America have more access to a greater variety of news and facts than any other country in the world. I detect some bitterness in your comments because your ideas are not accepted by as many American citizens
    as you think they should be. If you become a more effective communicator, you are offered the opportunities in this country to get your views out.

  • Steve in St. Louis

    The republicans have sold their souls to the 1%. The democrats aren’t any better and have taken up socialist ideology in response.
    I’m not sure where that will leave the middle man.
    Certainly the mass media is missing big issues, but they don’t seem to be doing it in fear but are strongly embracing the democrat party’s ideal and will overlook any deficiencies their candidates have.
    There is an over-concentration of wealth, and there’s more to liberty than just amassing a fortune.
    The unemployment figures may reflect the greed of the extremely wealthy as well as economic policies of Washington.
    There will need to be some moderation on both ends for this to end well.

  • ranger09

    GOOD and EVIL. Good is weak Evil is Strong. The meek will NOT RULE THIS WORLD. SHEEP AND WOLVES. WITHOUT SOMEONE TO PROTECT THE SHEEP, THE SHEEP WILL PARISH.

    • Karolyn

      You are so totally wrong. Read “Power vs. Force” by Dr. David Hawkins. Good has power and evil has force, and good always wins. Th meek will inherit the earth.

      • DaveH

        Not without Force, Karolyn. You can tip toe through the tulips all day long, but in the end it always takes Force to make people do what they don’t want to do. And those you enable are the among the biggest Forcers.

      • Karolyn

        Dave – You and the majority will just never get it. Happy Thanksgiving!

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – I fail to see what it is that they aren’t getting.

        I’m also surprised to see you quote the Bible to make a point.

  • ross

    Looks to me that Romney and Rep. party got back what they did to Ron Paul.

    • Marty S.

      ross,

      You correct. The election was lost at the RNC Tampa in August.

      • George E

        Marty,

        Ron Paul never was able to get enough Republicans behind him to win the nomination. Lacking that, I doubt he could have been elected President if he had been nominated. If you disagree, please tell me which segments of the voting public you think he would have done better than Romney; 1) women, particularly single and minority women, 2) Hispanics, 3) blacks, 4) 18-30 age voters. These are the segments that Romney didn’t do well with. Then tell me if you think Paul would have garnered more conservative and libertarian votes than Romney, which was pretty high. (Please include 1) white men, 2) married white women, 3) seniors, 4) small businesses.) I’m just curious because my gut tells me that it’s just wishful thinking that Ron Paul could actually win a Presidential election. On the other hand, I actually believe Rand Paul “could” possibly do better, but that’s still anything but certain.

        I think the election was difficult for Republicans because conservatives have too many issues they feel strongly about, and no one candidate represents all of these issues better than all other candidates. It’s not enough, apparently, to nominate a candidate that’s best on most conservative issues. He/she has to be the very best on all conservative issues to get conservatives to vote for him/her. That’s a real disadvantage, because Mr./Ms. Perfect doesn’t exist.

        Typically, conservatives come together on fiscal issues, but this election seems to be an exception to that rule. Romney, while not as conservative as all other candidates, does have a good record of turning around failing companies and projects, and that’s really what this country needs right now. So, it’s hard for me to see how we’re going to have another time when our fiscal troubles are going to be much worse than they are right now, and a time when we will have a candidate with Romney’s business savvy running against an incumbent President with an abysmal record of economic growth. I just can hardly imagine how Romney lost this election.

  • hipshotpercusion

    My late father once opined…”If you packaged it properly, promoted it and advertised it, you could sell the average American a bag of Horse Manure.” I rest my case for Mr. Hope and change.

  • Jeff

    Yeah, and there wasn’t much in the media when Romney and Co. pulled all kinds of shenanigans to steal the nomination from Ron Paul. Karma baby! Romney was no improvement over Obama.

    • Marty S.

      Yep… Obama vs. Obama lite. Communism vs. Socialism. Worst of the best vs. best of the worst. Cream of the crap vs. mediocre.

      • George E

        And, I thought you didn’t see “any” difference between the candidates.

  • AK Tom

    The United States of America is now the United Socialist States of America. When it all collapses, who will keep the rest of the world safe from tyranny? We’re all just one one step closer to becoming a one-world government. Line up all you sheep to receive your vaccinations on your way to camp…

  • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

    Actually ONE media DID report about election “irregularities”- Alex Jones’s, “Infowars”

  • Daniel from TN

    Here’s my predictions for the near future.
    1. There will soon be an effort to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution, the amendment that establishes term limits for the president. obama himself might request it during the 2013 State of the Union Address with words to this effect: “I have examined all the tasks needed to affect the needed change in America and I now realize all that change cannot be accomplished in just four more years. Therefore, I’m asking Congress to send an amendment to the states repealing the 22nd amendment to the Constitution. Once passed, this will insure I have the time needed to correct ALL the problems America now faces.”
    2. The states will seriously consider convening another Constitutional Convention. Whether or not a convention is convened will depend on what happens in the next 6 to 12 months.
    3. There will be increased calls for secession from the Union. At least one state might even declare succession.
    4. The continued frustration of the people will produce INCREASED rumors of another civil war in the US, and after the RIGGED 2012 presidential election there might actually be calls to arms within several states: Those calls might also be sanctioned by those states.
    Liberals have been pushing the people for decades, boldly since obama, a non-citizen, was illegally elected to the White House. The people have had enough and are now ready to push back. THAT is what the Liberals fear at this time. The big question now is; HOW will the people push back?

    • DaveH

      First you must realize that the biggest problem we have is not just Liberals. It is Progressives, those people who offer Bigger Government as the Solution to our Problems. Once people realize that both major kinds of Progressives — NeoCons and Liberals — are the problem, then we can start working to remedy the situation. Until that realization occurs, we will continue to flounder while Government grows ever larger.

  • http://mashedpotatobulletin.wordpress.com Mashed Potato Bulletin

    What I find so astounding is how easily people on the Right are so very easily persuaded to believe anything and everything about Obama or Democrats as long as it’s negative.

    • DaveH

      Feel free to point out specific incidences, MPB.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Will you EVER give it up, Dave? Asking for sources is meaningless. The man said something that is self evident. Go find someone with half a brain and ask for help in making a real comment rather than just fill column inches with Inanities that make it hard for us to navigate.

        “Inanities flow out of the dark recesses and rotten sputtering gutters of Dave’s brain like a river of septic putrescence”. Thank you , Brandon

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        Boiled potato says: What I find so astounding is how easily people on the Right are so very easily persuaded to believe anything and everything about Obama or Democrats as long as it’s negative.

        Dumbbell, are you suggesting that ALL the people on the LEFT are pleased with Obama? Mashed potato, a most appropriate moniker; don’t change it!

      • eddie47d

        What Potato said was absolutely correct Jay now go back to sleep you sly old fox!

      • DaveH

        RBT says — “Will you EVER give it up, Dave? Asking for sources is meaningless”.
        I didn’t ask for “sources”, Brain Dead.
        I said — “Feel free to point out specific incidences”.
        Does thinking with your Right Brain preclude understanding English?

      • http://mashedpotatobulletin.wordpress.com Mashed Potato Bulletin

        Dave> Oh my, where to begin…

        Okay let’s start with the belief Obama is a socialist, communist and facist all rolled into one.
        - Then there’s pretty much every impression the Right has of Obamacare. How they hate the individual mandate so much but can’t grasp the fact it was one of their ideas for 20+ years.
        - Oh yes, and the pleadingfor their supporters to BELIEVE the economy is worse under Obama. LOL!! That’s a good one by the way.
        - Obama will take away your guns!
        - Obama is raising YOUR taxes
        - Obama is cutting defense by a trillion dollars
        - Obama is cutting Medicare
        - Obama has taken more vacations than any other president. (another incredibly amusing one)
        - Obama is the most divisive president in history

        Do I really need to continue?? I suggest you check all these with Politifact or other credible NEWS source and see what the facts say.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Possibly you don’t believe enough bad things about O because you voted for him again.

      • http://mashedpotatobulletin.wordpress.com Mashed Potato Bulletin

        There’s a difference between belief and fact. Many on the Right base their vote on belief or emotion while I, like many on the Left or closer to the Center, base their votes on facts.

  • Bob Bo

    How can any right wing whacko purport to even know what the “media” covers? If they weren’t so engrossed in the conservative conspiracy theory echo chamber they’d KNOW these things have been covered. To sight just one example from this long litany of disinformation, the Philadelphia Inquirer (http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-13/news/35069785_1_romney-supporters-mitt-romney-voter-id-law) revealed that what sounds like a lot of precincts, 59, actually represents 3.5% of the total,that those are in almost exclusively or totally Black neighborhoods and that reporters from the Inquirer, in other words “the media,” couldn’t find any registered Republicans in a couple of precincts they did investigate.

    This kind of disinformation campaign worked well for Hitler, Goebbels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and others. Good work, keep it up

    • DaveH

      So you’re saying, Bob, that Blacks would only vote for Obama? Isn’t that a bit racist?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Lord love a duck, Dave. Bob said no such thing and it’s more than a bit stupid for you to even ask the question.

        “Stupidity flows out of the dark recesses and rotten sputtering gutters of Dave’s brain like a river of septic putrescence”.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

        My my, what would RBT do with himself without Dave to pester? Like a flea eating the dead skin and sucking the blood from a dog, RBT the parasite is similar to. Offal decomposition, thy name is RBT.

      • DaveH

        Duh, Thoughtless, he did say that the precincts were mostly Blacks, and the issue was that in those precincts nobody voted for Romney.
        Duh, let me think — Everybody in the precinct voted for Obama, so duh, that would mean that all the Blacks voted for Obama, duh, wouldn’t it?
        Are all you Liberal Progressives so damn dumb?

      • JeffH

        Dave says “Are all you Liberal Progressives so damn dumb?”

        Well Dave, we know for sure that at least one of ‘em that thinks with his right brain is…must be from the disease that can’t be fixed.

  • ChuckS

    The media didn’t say anything about the 14.6% unemployment rate? NEITHER DID ROMNEY!!! Romney should have explained more and revealed more information. Connservative politicians need to give kindergarten classes on conservatism. He did well in the first debate giving information like $90 billion wasted on green energy and reduced drilling. He should have run a lot more of his campaign like that.

    Incidentally, the real unemployment rate may be hjgher – U6 may not include recent graduates, dropouts, housewives returning to the job market, people leaving the military, or people whose businesses failed.

    Chris Ruddy of Newsmax had his analysis here:

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/why-romney-lost-obama/2012/11/07/id/463241?s=al&promo_code=109FA-1

  • Carlos

    Hey, Wayne, I guess your Chick-fil-A election got burned in the deep fryer? Of course the media lied and will always lie for their party, the Dems. All those points you mentioned that went unreported have a common thread to the Romney debacle, Romney didn’t bring it up!
    He knew the media would favor Obama but failed to overcome that and bring it out. His election team was bush league, got totally outcoached and outplayed! Wasted $millions.
    Every time he drew blood in the debates, Obama would whine like a bitch and Romney would back down. Why else did all the religious folks (even Mormons) stay home? But the 800 lb. gorilla you ignore is the long term Dem’s plan that’s been a huge success. They’ve dumbed down the voters and made sure parasites can eat, watch cable and have AC. Those basic GDP, unemployment or credit rating downgrade issues you list are unknown and Greek to the avg. moron who votes. It’s “who’ll give me stuff” and a pied piper to bamboozle the idiots that wins the day now. So, until the GOP gets someone to deliver their message and pick off enough young,minority and “it’s my body” women voters, they’ll kepp losing. Romney only lost by an aggregate 400,000 votes in 4 key states.

  • truesoy

    Wayne…

    You almost had it right when you spoke of a ‘Banana Republic’, but only almost.
    See, a ‘Banana Republic’ as you said is one where the leaders control the media and the lections outcome, but you forgot to mention that while the leaders control the media and the lection outcome, it is a 1% or less of the population that owns and controls the government….and thus the never ending political drama of “Banana Republics”.
    We were almost there after decades of trial and errors by the likes of you, that either naively believes in fairy tales or are willing and knowing participants. Either way the harm brought upon the people would be the same, and had Mitt Romneybeen elected President the conversion of the U.S. to the likes of a Banana Republic would have been completed.

    Sincerely,
    Truesoy

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

      Wow, and deluding yourself is something you seem to be rather proud of, truesoy. One thing’s for sure, you are right about Romney, but to suggest that Obama is going to lead us to promised land, well…gullible is the only thing i can think of. No offence intended.

      • eddie47d

        Its hard to fathom why those on the right believe each and every headline on this site. You all have the sheeple market cornered!

      • truesoy

        Wake The…

        Because I know I’m right, no offense is taken.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

  • Daniel from TN

    Does obama control the media? Garfield the cat can answer that question better than anyone: “WELL DUUUUHHHH!!!”

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Or the flip side is the question of whether O is the slave of the media.

  • http://Boblivingston Ernie Bergeron

    FYI #1 – FLORIDA IS A PHOTO I.D. STATE;
    FYI #2 – ALL THE VOTE COUNTING MACHINES ARE MANUFACTURED & OWNED BY STAUNCH REPUBLICANS;
    FYI #3 – THE REPUBLICANS SHOULD HAVE SUPPORTED RON PAUL, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE WON AND BE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

    • Marty S.

      Ernie,

      No way on God’s green earth was the media going to allow us to pick a true conservative such as Ron Paul.

      • George E

        I’d just like to have someone who isn’t a socialist/Marxist.

        • pissed off and liberal

          You already do.

          • George E

            ………or someone who doesn’t subscribe to socialist/Marxist ideology.

          • pissed off and liberal

            Ounce again. Aready there.

  • Black Hat

    it shouldn’t be surprising so many posting see intrigue, conspiracy and boogymen behind every action that is not of their group, guess that is why all of them believe in UFO, BigFoot, Reagonomic trickle down theory. They believe everyone is against them that thinks differently, so many believe in the brain washing republicans and conservatives continually spout, they say they believe in capitalism, the fact is that has done more to create and support class warfare than anything else. The results being in the past 30 years the greatest shift of wealth has transferred to the 1% now controlling over 90% of the wealth, that the middle class has lost

    • Marty S.

      And that 1% is the Government and its Union thugs.

      • pissed off and liberal

        Did it hurt having yourbrain washed? How the hell can the unions be part of the 1% when they are under attack by the 1% and were created as a way for the 99% percent to fight back?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If Capitalism is a problem for you, keep bowing before O and he will promise to give you the desire of your heart Socialism.
      The Conservatives and Libertarians on this site will stick with Capitalism.

      • eddie47d

        Does it feel better getting shafted from the other side Nadzieja? You seem to enjoy it a little too much for common sense. What’s your gig?

  • JeffH

    Kate8, DaveH, Jay, FF, Michael J, Mikey, Jana, Nancy, Patriot, Mr. Livingston, all of the PLD staff and some of you I may have missed…May you all have a wonderful and “HAPPY THANKSGIVING”.

    To all of the board progressives…as much as you try, you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken “chit”…but have a “blessed” Thanksgiving anyway!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Wake The Sleepers(Jay)

      Happy Thanksgiving to you to, JeffH!

      To all the board progressives, you should be thankful for this site. You obviously have nowhere else to go. Besides, who else would have you. And as much as you claim to hate it here, yet, day after day, and oddly enough, we find you hovering, like mindless moon-bats, littering the place with your droppings. Ghouls without a home, wondering hyenas, hapless dopes, and intellectually-neutered idiots, Happy Thanksgiving to you, as well!

      • eddie47d

        Your Conservative kindness is overwhelming Jay and Jeff H and it almost brought a tear to my eye. Well,Almost! I’m here to dispel the lies that 90% of the Conservatives lay out for all of us to see and “enjoy”. If you don’t like the heat why do you come back to the kitchen? LOL! Happy Thanksgiving Jeff and Jay.

      • JeffH

        eddie says “I’m here to dispel the lies that 90% of the Conservatives lay out for all of us to see and “enjoy”. ”
        - Oooooohhhh kaaaayyyyy~if you say so?????

        eddie, hope you had a good T-giving with your family and thanks.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Will wonders never cease? Wake The Sleepers(Jay) has made a comment that is not just a complete parroting of the misinformation from some wing-nut website I refer to the circular firing squad that passes for the “right wing intelligentsia” (oxymoronic as that may be). That group who endlessly repeat the same mostly WRONG ideas to each other and then sit around smugly congratulating each other on how smart they are. Lord love a duck!

        And we hear you say “we find you hovering, like mindless moon-bats, littering the place with your droppings. Ghouls without a home, wondering hyenas, hapless dopes, and intellectually-neutered idiots”. As DaveH would have said to Moses when Moses showed the Ten Commandments to the people, “Can we have a reference for that—what’s your source?”. I say that because it looks way more intelligent than your “usual” and I want PROOF that you didn’t lift it from one of your comic books (like the one on CO2, I’m sure you have comic books about liberals).

        Eddie, don’t you understand that “conservative kindness” is also oxymoronic and is dead and buried anyway? Did you not hear the “47%” speech by “Mr. Conservative for a Day”? And you’re being as delusional as the typical far right thinker if you really think that any of us can “dispel the lies that 90% of the Conservatives lay out for all of us to see”. I’d also like to think that we can do that but a read of THE BOOK (The Republican Brain by Mooney) will quickly disabuse you of that notion

        Jana, I am probably one of those “left wing Socialists who come on this site knowing it is a right wing conservative site just to TRY to put us down. They can’t win in these debates because we have right on our side”, as you put it..

        May I suggest first that “we” are not all “socialists”? You perhaps need to study up on your “isms” a bit. And thank you for giving us a perfect snapshot of the conservative mind(lessness) with the thoughts I just quoted.

      • Vigilant

        RBT once again demonstrates the lack of intelligence so common amongst those who style themselves “educators.”

        He says, “Eddie, don’t you understand that ‘conservative kindness’ is also oxymoronic and is dead and buried anyway?”

        No, RBT, a correct understanding of conservatism reveals that such a term is redundant, not oxymoronic. “Liberal kindness,” on the other hand, is indeed an oxymoron.

    • DaveH

      Thank you, Jeff. You have a Good Thanksgiving also.

    • Kate8

      Thanks, JeffH, and happy Thanksgiving to you and all those who come here.

    • Jana

      JeffH,
      I got on late, as it has been a busy day, but I thank you and hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving Day also. And we are thankful that we still do live in a free country even if people like Rob, eddie, flashy, along with all of the other left wing Socialists who come on this site knowing it is a right wing conservative site just toTRY to put us down. They can’t win in these debates because we have right on our side.

  • Marty S.

    In my opinion we are now dealing with the Son of Perdition, Anti Christ or at the very least the False Prophet and there is no turning back. He has the masses bs’d into believing he can do no wrong and he is some sort of savior. Christ himself predicted Ovomit and that he would advance onto the scene as a bolt of lightening hence the name Barak in Aramaic language. These are the end times as predicted in the Bible and BHO is a sign of the times. May God Bless all (including the pwecious witto wiberals who vwoted for BHO) on this Thanksgiving Day in the year of Our Lord 2012.

    • Kate8

      Marty – I don’t know if you are aware… that Barack is the name of the horse on which the Islamic Mahdi rides in…

      Thought that was interesting. So what is it that Barack is ushering in…

  • needfulthings

    Where have you been Wayne? We’ve been a Banana Republic since president cheney and his right hand meat pupit “dubya” took office. Dubya was considered the dumbest president ever by world leaders, a total embarrASSment to this republic, and thee only AMERICAN president and vice pres that can not travel to several places on this planet for fear of being arrested for WAR CRIMES…. Banana Republic/ You know dats right!

  • old hillbilly

    No!… we’re not a banana republic! We’re a wannabe banana split. The ice cream was eaten & what’s left of it is sticky scum. The banana scraps have turned brown & crusty. That which was delightful is a disgusting empty dirty bowl that has a foul odor.

    Will we clean it and restore its dignity, trash it, or fill it with slop and pretend we’re meaningful creatures of the tree god? It’s past time to stop following the leader and find leaders who will follow the interests of the citizens! We need independent leaders who place citizens above personal and party interests – republicans, democrats, libertarians, and independents that will crush corruption!

    What’s wrong? Look at Uncle Tom’s “black caucus” – they deserve what they get! The millions of unemployed blacks, especially the youth can’t seem to get past the promises of help” to realize Uncle Tom’s government bulldozers are leveling their homes, heritage, and hope. Tom’s cell phones & food stamps are not building productive economic opportunity, jobs, or individual independence. Tom’s not teaching you to fish; he’s fishing for fools to vote for his straw boss.

  • Bird

    I honestly believe that Obama used campaign money to buy the three major broadcast networks – at a high price – to respond only to his will! Think about this action! Obama bought control of the news.

  • pissed off and liberal

    No one man controls the media. The two corperate parties and ther capitilist class backers control it TOGETHER.. The ” cover ups ” Mr Root refers to are real but they exist to maintain the corrupt capitilist system as a whole not any one politicion.

    • Kate8

      po’d liberal – The major media (and much of the lesser media) are all controlled by 5 corporations. This includes FoxNews as well as the liberal outlets.

      These corporations all are part of the larger beast, the major financial corporate elite (which make up and own pretty much EVERYTHING, aka NWO) including governments and all that entails.

      Even news and journalist outlets who try to expose (and challenge) these elite do so at terrible risk to themselves and their families, and they often end up dead or losing loved ones. Most of them censor their writings to avoid such events, as some subjects are off-limits under severe threats… So it’s easier for them to comply rather than risk loss of life and/or property.

      • pissed off and liberal

        Kate8. Thanks for the input but i must say these two things. 1. I don,t belive in the NWO just my opinion. 2. There is in my estamation no truly liberal voice in the mainstream media.If there were then occupy would not have been ignored forsix weeks then charicterized as ” smelly hippies ” . A TRUE liberal media outlet like say RT America would have coverd the movement from the beginning and done so objectivly.

      • Kate8

        po’d – LOL. You can choose not to believe in anything you want, but it doesn’t make it untrue. The NWO is spoken of openly now, by many of the ruling elite themselves. Henry Kissinger, Daddy Bush, Gordon Brown and many others have spoken of the New World Order… and they’ve even talked about it on the news outlets.

        The ideas of liberalism and conservatism are only meaningful when you are speaking of the people, not the body politic. At the top the two factions have merged into one ruling body, owned and funded by the same corporations which own everything else. While they make a show about being in opposition, off-camera they are comerades (yep) and party together. They just like to keep US at each other’s throats because it serves them and their agenda.

        This is not just my opinion. It’s fact. And they love that the ignorant masses are so caught up in their ideologies that they fail to see what’s really going on.

        I mean, it’s those in power who invented the phrase “conspiracy theorist” in order that we would ridicule those who got too close to finding the truth. They really have nothing but contempt for us, the great unwashed…They see us as a bunch of “useless eaters”.

        The sooner we all figure out how they’ve played us, the sooner we can get our country back. Maybe.

        • pissed off and liberal

          While i totally agree about ther oposition beinga facade and them secretly working together i must disagree about ter goal. Where as you belive in the new world order i belive it was invented to sow fear and paronoia in the average american. I o the otherhand elive ther conspiring simply to find new ways to take away the working classes hard won gains and protecet thecrrupt capitilist system thathas so empowerd them.Agree to disagree?

      • Kate8

        po’d – What you must ask yourself is ‘why?’.

        Why would they want to terrorize the American people, and keep them in fear and distrust?

        Because it is a means to an end.

        The end is world domination. Don’t believe me. Do some research. You will find that I am telling you the truth.

        • pissed off and liberal

          Why? I will tell you why, Because they want to t your right as a women to control your own body. They want to take away your right to a minimum wage and benifiets by takng away your right to unionize. They want to take away your right to worship whatever diety you see fit. But most importently they want to take away your right to question the millitary industrial complex, the school to prison pipeline,the growing income desparity,the incresingly millatarized police force,the fact that you can hold a protest sign and be arrested for terrorism,the fact that you can rob steal money from a bank and go to jail but the bank steals your money the goverment hands them more taxpayer dollars,the fact they bug your phone car and washing machine, and not to mention that you can be arrested held forever and never know why and thats if they jdecide not to just kill you with a drioid. Think those might be good reasons?

          • George E

            Socialist rationale……………White is black. Up is down. Light is dark. Good is bad. Everything you were taught as a child were lies…………………. They’ll try to scramble your brains until you become their robot and accept any nonsense they feed you…………….

          • pissed off and liberal

            I see in order for me to care about the quality of life and the freedom of the average american i MUST have a scrambled brain. Thank you for that insight into your mind. And by-the-way the only ones trying to turn us into robots are the corperate owned media channels. Now clearly you are a lost cause but that is ok for as long as i can help one person to avoid your fate it will all be worth it.

  • Bimbam

    Hahahaha… yeah a banana republic. Only a negro could do daht! A chimpanzee in a business suit. Fits perfect.

    It would be hilarious if it was’nt so funny. This guy is going to wreck this nation, only, and only because we let the monkey get away with it the banana.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      And the sinking ship that is the Personal Liberty Digest slips ever deeper beneath the waves on the sea of ignorance it travels.

      BOB LIVINGSTON!—-ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? Some complete moron with the carefully crafted handle of “Bimbam” has posted the following:

      “Hahahaha… yeah a banana republic. Only a negro could do daht! A chimpanzee in a business suit. Fits perfect.

      It would be hilarious if it was’nt so funny. This guy is going to wreck this nation, only, and only because we let the monkey get away with it the banana.”

      “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion but we will not tolerate racism” This comment is a clear violation of your comment policy. Why hasn’t it been removed?

      Such a removal would send a message to Bimbam (and all the other morons like him that are all too prevalent on this site) that perhaps they need to cut bigger eyeholes in their KKK hoods and see the reality of the world we live in.

      • Vigilant

        RBT, you and I have found little common ground on our political beliefs, but you are correct in your assessment here.

      • Vigilant

        Clarification: I believe your comments about PLD to be over the line, but we agree on the unacceptable racist content of the poster.

      • Jana

        Right Brain,
        And yet you still come on this site. Now that speaks volumes.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Thank you for that, Vigilant. You may be surprised to know that I DO hold some of the same conservative values as you. That’s why we agree on this one point and also on others that we haven’t discovered yet. You may recall me saying on the site one time that I contributed triple digit $$$ to the McCain campaign in 2008 (and none to O’Bama). Might have voted for him too if he hadn’t gone and endangered the country with his unfortunate VP choice. There are some good things about being conservative, things this county needs. Too bad the extremists have taken over the GOP and given conservatism a bad name.

        As regards “Clarification: I believe your comments about PLD to be over the line”. I accept that. Just playing with words and having fun there. I perhaps do that a little because of the personal “jousting” that Bob Livingston have gotten into more than once. Don’t take it personally or too seriously. I could have used misinformation instead, but I guess I’ve been called so many names by so many folks that are truly ignorant, it is embedded in my mind and just slipped out. Only some threads and topics bring out the truly ignorant on PLD, so it was a bit unfair to say that (but only a bit).

        Jana says: “And yet you still come on this site. Now that speaks volumes”.
        What are you trying to say, Jana? Speaks volumes about what? Are you being “snarky” or trying to make a point? Would be glad to respond if I knew what you were saying.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Sorry I didn’t proofread adequately. I meant to say the jousting that Bob L AND I have gotten into. The “gold and silver coins only” and “let them eat cake” stuff.

      • Bimbam

        If John McCain got elected how about this comment?

        “Hahahaha… yeah a banana republic. Only a white guy could do daht! An albino chimpanzee in a business suit. Fits perfect.”

        Would you cry over that? Send me to the racist authorities?

        You are the racist for I treat the negro just like whites. They are the same right? So, they make mistakes we nail them like you racist do on whites.

        So why do you look down on them that they cannot defend themselves and only racist like you must come to the rescue by sending authorities to bully non-racist people like me?

        TREAT NEGROES LIKE YOU DO TO WHITES, you racist!!!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        I will repeat that you ARE a complete moron. That you don’t understand my point and actually doubled down on your racism is the proof of that.

        Now you say “Hahahaha… yeah a banana republic. Only a white guy could do daht! An albino chimpanzee in a business suit. Fits perfect.”

        You also say “Would you cry over that? Send me to the racist authorities?”

        No, BIMBAM, I would send you to school and make you repeat that grade where you became so utterly stupid that you would repeat your racism word for word but somehow delude yourself into thinking that putting McCain in there instead makes any difference.

        Do you NOT understand that talking about bananas and chimpanzees and using dialect when you are discussing a black person IS ABOUT AS RACIST AS IT GETS? Lord love a duck.

        The rest of what you say requires no response. It stands on its stupidity.

    • waltinseattle

      crawl back into that log in the fetid swamp where you came from.

    • Bimbam

      RBT does not find a fat white guy eating a banana funny, but the racist in him find a fat negro guy eating a banana funny.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1141831169 Jeff Schmelzer

    Well since we are all “ok” with allowing the FED to destroy our economy, the IRS to tax our income versus taxing only what we consume, and the now blatantly obvious presidential control over the media, turning the election into some moronic red versus blue circus with the winner being the one that had the most effective means of corruption…..

    …we’re all pretty much screwed. The U in USA is teetering and very soon will be replaced with a T. Welcome to the Totalitarian States of America. Now go back to work and give your government 1/2 your earnings and provide the funding needed to remove more of your liberties.

    Anyone that still believes this is a “free” country is truly ignorant. Maybe not by choice, but ignorant all the same.

    • Marty S.

      TSA . I love it. Would the powers then have to change the name of the agency that molests airline passengers then?

  • Jimbo

    Wayne,

    Finally! Someone needed to write this. I was very surprised after the election when no Republican or Conservative leaders stood up and questioned the results.

    I think the electronic voting machines are the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American public. They make ballot stuffing easy.

    I wonder just what it is Obama has on the press, that they refuse to take an objective look at the man and his policies. Let’s hope one of these days, that Obama slips up and says something offensive to them. Maybe they will finally stop giving the guy a free pass.

    Young people should know better, but as several have remarked to me, they are continually fed liberal propaganda from kindergarten to the end of grad school. Maybe it is time business leaders conducted classrooms in economics in the workplace. Maybe that is the only way you fight this brainwashing.

    • http://none ron

      Conservatives owned the voting machines in the 8 battleground states and still could not pull it off.

  • http://thomasrobinson@whitesox.com Thomas

    Sorry, but no African american president could ever control a culture that enslaved his people less than a generation before he took office. No matter what type of drummed up numbers or circumstantial facts you recite here. could ever imply or prove that a minority could prevail over the majority race. Conservatives should learn how to lose because it appears that they will continue to suffer such loses while being tripped up by theories, When someone loses they should always find the keys to the strategy of their opponents. Contriving theories about fraud and misrepresentation of the facts is a prescription for repeating losses.

  • mark

    You lost the election. Your prediction was dead wrong. Most of your ideas are dead wrong. America will move on in its own direction, leaving irrelevat voices like yours behind.

    • George E

      Mark,

      You’re dreaming if you think conservatives are going to shut up and go away now that the election is over. Obama’s margin of victory simply wasn’t that great, and just as Wayne says in this article, questions remain in our minds about the validity of the results of this election. So long as the election process lacks integrity, the losing party will always have questions like these. Voter ID would help build integrity in the process.

      • mark

        Dear George,

        Irregardless of unsubstantiated charges about voter fraud which are always made by those whose candidate lost and don’t like the results, on noon on January 20, 2013 President Obama will take the oath of office for a second time. He won.

        • George E

          We agree on that point. However, I’m just telling you that unless and until we clean up the voting process in this country, the loser and his supporters will always claim irregularities. The left did it when GWB was elected, so both sides do it, and it’s not a good thing for our country to have leaders who are not accepted as legally elected. A good first step in cleaning up the voting process would be to require voter ID. That’s not a lot to ask, and needs to be done soon, in my opinion. If not, you might as well get used to hearing a lot of unsavory theories about how politicians stole their offices. That’s just the way it is. This is not a Republican “sour grapes” issue. Both parties do it when their candidates lose. The time to fix this issue is right after an election, and the best way is for the winning candidate to acknowledge the system needs to be repaired, and then proposes solutions that the losing party can embrace. So long as the winning party continues to defend the current system as not being a problem, the losing party will be convinced that the winning party stole the election and therefore doesn’t want to fix the system.

  • sb36695

    The fundamental transformation is almost complete.

    • George E

      Please explain. What was transformed for the better and what is left to be transformed?

      • sb36695

        Obama said he was going to fundamentally transform America. He has taken over the banking and auto industries with “bailouts”. He stated that he would like to “bailout” other industries. The masses will be supported with welfare. I believe banana republic would be an appropriate description for a crony capitalist welfare state.

        • George E

          Thanks for clarifying. I agree with you.

          • sb36695

            You’re welcome! It was a vague statement.

  • http://Newsmax Ivan Pistov

    I am continually amazed at some of the posters here (you know who they are, always the same ones) who want us to believe that “it just isn’t happening” or “it can’t happen here”, “you’re imagining things and Fox News and Rupert Murdock are just right wing scaremongers”. I hope with all my heart at this point, that the pain and loss of freedoms we will suffer will be suffered TRIPLE by those who defend Obama and his “transparent” administration. Good luck with that.
    In other words, you people are the ones known as USEFUL IDIOTS. They must pay you very well.

  • John811c

    @Flashy are you that uneducated or just pretending to be… currency manipulation is a fact …it has been Done by all the central banks and by George Soros which he has accumulated billions from his manipulation of the British pound…in fact he is a person non grata in Britain because of this. also he has some involvement in war crimes in Hungary during WWII maybe you should research some before you parrot the lies you have been told…I could go toe to toe with you on each of your points with facts from several reliable non-conservative scientific sources but there is no point to arcue with someone who is not prepeared

  • http://http//drjosephabarbier.blogspot.com DrBarbier

    Yes, and we have been since October 2008!

  • John811c

    @Eddie47d… is clueless when he spouts all his gibberish about how much better off we would be under socialism let me point out that the USSR – Union of Soviet Socialist Republics is just the same thing he wants to emulate here in the United States never mind that he probably works for a Capitalist or he is on the Dole. My thoughts would be he does not work, For as often as he is on here, he must be beholding to the Scocialist sytsem for his livelyhood.

    The USSR had a terrible ecological record there are many sites in the USSR that are un-inhabitable such as Chernoble. No one lives near it and the ones that did are dying from cancer and not to mention the global amounts of radiation it released. that is just one example of how much better off we would be under a system like the soviets had.

    They are desperately trying to emulate us, as you guessed it the Capitalist system. They are having difficulties in doing so because of the structure of their government directly interferes with that seems it is incompatible with true capitalism.

    Central Planning does not work and an all powereful central department of Industry can not do the job better than Free enterprise something Obama missed when he took over GM for example the Chevy Volt cost somwhere on the order of $70K to build and sells for $44K in a free market system this is unsustainable you can not make something and sell it for less than you paid to make it.. the other problem is a technology issue the batteries catch fire when damaged and can burn up the vehicle and whatever structure it is in(your house/garage) so it has a marketing problem from that standpoint who in thier right mind would buy it. It is not pollution free either even when running on electricity alone. The electricity is made at mostly coal fired generating plants.

    Socialism is nice when it works but when it runs out of other peoples money it just crumbles.

    An example from American History the puritans came to America with the utopian Idea that all the production of the Colony would go to a central store and be divided by need the problem was someone stole from the central store and they were faced with the fact that they would not have enough food for the winter If not for the Indians many would have died. It was not until they switched over to the system where you got to keep what you worked for productivity increased because you recieved the fruits of your labor. Of course those that would not work and could starved, those that were not able to work Old or infirm, widows were helped by the community. If you are capable of work and do not you have earned what you deserve.

    Sure Capitalism has its downfalls too but the creation of vast wealth also provides jobs to others because your money does get spread around, but it is spread to productive workers. The governments soultion is to take(steal your money) and gve it to others (redistribute) it failed in Nerw England, In Russia, and it will fail here.

    • truesoy

      John811c;

      The Soviet Union was just as Socialist as the Democratic Republic of East Germany was democratic.
      Just because an entity chooses to call itself whatever they want to pretend to be does not make it so.
      And neither the Old Soviet Union was Socilist, nor East Germany was democratic. They were both ‘communist’ dictatorships.
      Example of Socialist nations are as follow.: Israel, Germany, France, England, etc. And I’m also sure that you, nor anyone else, would pretend them to be communists countries, right?
      This is a conversation I don’t mind having with you because I do understand how some people, just like you, might get a bit confuse on this. However, you don’t have to take my word at face value and therefore I listed a few socialist countries as examples to help you.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • Smilee

        Russia and East Germany were socialist countries run by communists but never the less socialist. Those you list in Europe as socialist are not except England who has a socialist health care system but that is all. Socialism means industry and businesses are owned and operated by the government a they were in Russia and East Germany but are not in the other countries you mention. We do not have socialism in the US either and now that Obamacare has been found constitutional doing things collectively is legal and proper, our health care system is not owned or run by the government only regulated by it and in the case of Medicare A & B and some veterans health care which is paid for in whole and in part by taxes but the health care providers are in the private sector and thus not socialist either. Just because you do not like it does not mean you can change it to being socialist when it is not.

        • truesoy

          Smilee;

          I can see why your confusion on socialism vs. communism. This is an ideal that has been promulgated by the communist regimes of the old Soviet union and the likes; but like I previously told you, just because what a person or an entity chooses to call itself doesn’t means that that is what they are, case in point the old Democratic Republic of East Germany.
          Socialism is an economic system. Socialism is not a political system, and it only co-exist within a free market systemsocialism. In other words, communism kills socialism and therefore no communist system could also have a socialist economic system.
          I believe this idea you have comes from the belief that with a socialist economic system also comes state ownership of the means of production and therefore your erroneous conviction in that none of the countries I listes,except for England, are socialist. But even then, the means of production in England are not government owned.
          About the healthcare sytem in countries such as Israel whre they have universal healthcare (socialized medicine) The government does not ration healthcare.
          Of course, the system is managed differently by different countries. For example, in France the taxpayer’s supported system is managed by an insurance company that is allowed to collect a % (fee) to administer the plan. In England they have a different administrative system, and so on.
          But if what makes you worry about ‘universal healthcare’ is that by some chance doctors will end up working for the government and be told how and when to provide care, and how mch they, doctors, would get pay, then go no furhter than your present HMO system. HMO’s tell doctors how much they’d make; but not only that, HMO’s also decide whether you will get the treatment you need, but also at any given time they can deny it. And they are not alone here, other insurance companies do the same.
          Why do insurance companies do this, you may ask? The answer is simple. Insurance companies make money on care not delivered. Now, tell me, would you use the services of FedEx and/or UPS if they made their money (profits) on packages not delivered?. No, you wouldn’t. So why do it for your health?.
          A ‘universal healthcare system’ is nothing more than the ‘collective financial effort of the people to self-insured’, that’s all. (don’t forget that ‘insurance’ is not a producer of goods. It is a non-tangible; it is just a service they control, totally).

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • Smilee

            I stand by my post and would only agree that single payer is the same as being self insured and as health care goes many countries have proven that it has quality and with much greater efficiency than we . A side from this I do not accept any of your post as accurate or that single payer is socialism, it is not.

          • Smilee

            I stand by my post and would only agree that single payer is the same as being self insured and as health care goes many countries have proven that it has quality and with much greater efficiency than we have. Aside from this I do not accept any of your post as accurate or that single payer is socialism, it is not. You have been listening to all those far right wing definitions and they are just not true. People in countries who have universal single payer systems that I have talked with will tell you it is not and they like their systems and that is not to say they do not have some nut cases like you whom can be quoted but they not correct either.

  • ray santos

    In heavy Hispanic populated State such as Ca, Fl, NYC, NJ and Ill. the Hispanic voters registration and voters was very high this was due to Illegal Immigrants voting fraught.
    We need Congress to investigate.

  • http://none ron

    Wayne Allyn Root should really update his photo at the top of the website which makes him look like some sort of smiling sadist. He should put an updated photo of himself that actually shows him to be an angry , angry old , old f_rt that rambles on and on and on.
    Bob should retire him out to a nice old folks home and maybe he could start some kind of movement there. He probably has great problems with his own “movements” which would explain his general disdainful attitude.

    • Marty S.

      That is a crappy thing to say about someone’s picture. Go spread your manure somewhere else.

  • A. Bob

    I am not an Obama supporter but I have a hard time believing anything written here when he can’t get a simple fact correct which was east to check. RI requires ID and voted for Obama.

    • ReaganMan

      @A.Bob, I was neither an Obama nor Romney supporter yet I appreciated Mr Root’s article. From what I see you are a bit disingenuous. R.I. does not require a Photo I.D. It requires a written form of I.D. which, of course, could never be fraudulent. Please. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/09/27/voter-id-laws-in-all-50-states-in-1-map/

      When can we get over this Left-Right paradigm and realize that both parties are controlled at the top by the bankster elites? Voter fraud only breaks us all down. Party turf wars split us; then solidify our serfdom status which is the ultimate plan for us all.

  • Cameron

    Wayne, your’e a joke. You were begging for the banana republic when you decided to endorse Romney. You’re whats wrong with our country. You could care less about this country. You only have your own self interest in mind.

  • Tunaman

    RAVE ON ALL YOU WIZARDS OF SMART!! READ THE “BIBLE’S BOOK OF REVELATIONS”!! ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING TODAY HAVE BEEN PROPHESYED AND EVERYONE IS LOOKING EVERYWHERE BUT UP!! NO ONE ON EARTH IS GOING TO SOLVE WHAT IS TO COME!! SO LOOK UP AND PRAY TO “GOD” FOR YOUR SALVATION!! ALL HUMANS ARE MORTAL, AND NONE WILL LEAVE THIS EARTH ALIVE!! SO IF YOU PUT YOUR SALVATION IN MAN YOU ARE A FOOL!!!

  • http://PersonalLiberty Donnie

    Paranoia has set in.The conservatives have a lot of dumb reasons for losing.They said the election was rigged and the media does not say anything.Fox News was always slinging mud.They had so many untruths it was unbelievable.You lose elections when you nominate losers.Romney was a loser.He flip-flopped so much nobody knew what he stood for.I am not a conservative or a liberal.But I knew a long time ago Romney was going to lose.When he started talking he lost the election.A man that does not know what he stands for will always lose.His platform changed on a daily basis.He took credit for things he never did.He balanced a state budget.The law said the budget had to be balanced.Unfortunately for Romney the American people were not as dumb as he thought they were.So Mister Root quit the crying and face the facts you lost the election.Maybe the party will nominate somebody better in 2016.The vote buying you people like to talk about was in both parties.Promising tax cuts to get votes and wanting to foolishly increase the defense budget was vote buying.Straighten your own party out andmaybe you can win.But Mr. Root you could never win.Americans can’t vote for whinners.We want real men.

    • George E

      “Real men”???????????? You mean like Obama????????????? Sorry, but I’ll have to think on that one for awhile.

  • sesame

    After his woefully inaccurate predictions on the the elections, why is this guy still allowed to post here?

    • GALT

      “It’s not personal, it’s strictly business.”

  • No faith in government

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”

    Marcus Tullius Cicero
    (106-43 B.C.) Roman Statesman, Philosopher and Orator
    Source:

    Attributed. 58 BC, Speech in the Roman Senate

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

    Can’t help but notice eddie teddy, 47 ways to be a commie just loves his new 7th heaven dream world is back, but his messiah will destroy this nation is short order since he is now dictator-in-chief and soon to be the dictator of a one world government where the sheep like eddie teddy will be in the soup line getting his daily hand out. The Commie of the site is the only real joke around here. Have a good day, nut job.

  • Gary

    Hey Wayne,
    You talk about the forgot to mention. YOU forgot to mention Romney did not win in is own state. YOU forgot to mention Obama spent 4.68 trillion of the 16 trillion. I notice someone said Ann Coulter and YOU are free. Who would want to spend money on either of you.
    P.S. The Food Lion Food Store is hiring. PLEASE APPLY for the job so I don’t have to add you to the list of unemployed.

  • ReaganMan

    Great point Wayne. Thank you. I woke up today thinking just what you have articulated so well. I’ve been a poll watcher and involved with recounts in MN. Elections here are corrupt beyond belief. It’s gotten progressively worse since Soros’ money took over the Sec of State office. Various vote fraud schemes have been tested in states like MN and put on steroids across the nation. The unfortunate next steps are secession, civil war, and the installation of a leftist dictatorship; all provided by our global elites.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

    Wait till after Christmas and obozo-green kicks in, then find the soup lines all you left wing hack’s, got what you wanted, a hand out from czar obozo and his nazi buddies.

    • pissed off and liberal

      Nazis dont do handouts genius! If your going to use a metaphor at least use one that makes sense.

  • Marathon Man

    Wayne:
    You column states the obvious and media support has been pro OBAMA since he started running for presidential office immediately after being elected to the Illinois senate. A better question is why is the media so obsessed with this President and liberal leftist ideology.

    While objectives may be different, the basic elements elevating Obama to power are the the same that elevated Adolph Hitler to power in the 1930′s, specifically: The electorate, having been fed leftist media propaganda especially during the Bush era, view this president as their “savior” and can not see beyond the smoke and mirrors. Add to that the election fraud which was illustrated in your article and you have the “perfect political storm” that placed and keeps Obama and democrats in power.

    There is nothing to indicate that Obamas next term will be better than the first. We can expect more of Obamas class warfare, a continued poor economy, higher taxes feeding a power hungry congress and tyrannical president, and behind the scenes double dealing consummating Obamas professed agenda of “Fundamentally Changing America” .

    You failed to mention reports that UN observers were “invited ” into specific polling places. Their mandate was not to insure fair elections but to specifically insure that OBAMA was not cheated. Look forward to Obama selling out US sovereignty with four UN treaties and furthering Obamas expanded agenda of “global” social justice thus solidifying America to Banana Republic status.

    Eventually, the electorate that placed Obama and his cabal in power may rue the day he took office but be powerless to reverse the course set by this extreme leftist president.
    Given the ineffective messaging / campaigning of the republicans it is very possible that this nation is now saddled with a permanent one party system.

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Mr. Root: The Public has delivered their Choice… Get use to it! The System is working the best it can… ” Under the conditions, the Government Rules!” I believe under the Democratic Government… we need to make a CIVILIZED Populace! With a Civil Code run Government! Nature is Full of flaws…

    • Marty S.

      Bert have you looked around at the decay in our society? I mean we are on the verge of losing our Republic your Democracy. Obama’s policies will further destroy this country. We are in social and economic chaos and it is going to get a lot worse. Obama is a dictator in the making and you appear to agree with his ideas of taking away our constitutional rights in return a “civilized populace” when in actuality they are creating a dependent society. The only trouble is can you find enough tax slaves (producers) to keep the whole house of cards propped up. Good luck with that.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        Well … It looks like he keept us out of (2) Likely Wars… Libia & Israil… Conflicts? A BIG +… I thikk with enough help… He will make this U. S. “of “A”… a Perductive Country again! SURE … Big changes will need to be done with our Immigration PROBLEM! ( Back to the ’50′s.) And Heavy Taxes on IMPORTS! And a social structure with prommices kept!
        The Peace Core as our first invassion… With the Strongest Defense System Ever!

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        He may be the Black Mouseketeer… Better than the Daffy Duck, last pres. or.. Mr. Scruge Attempt.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        and you appear to agree with his ideas of taking away our constitutional rights /////////\\\ The States Did that long ago… The Penal Codes & Vehicle Codes & City Ordinances & Homeowners Associations. All compleetly Neutralized the Real Meaning & Athority of the U.S. Constitution!

    • Scipio

      Bert:
      Apparently you have a terminal case of diarrhea of words and constipation of ideas.

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        They dont go in your throat… they go in your head.

  • K.R. Lombardia

    Obama won Florida. You need id’s here to vote. BTW, I despise Obama and what he’s doing to our country. I’m just correcting this statement.

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