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Internet Kill Switch Bill On Senate Short List

September 15, 2010 by  

Internet Kill Switch Bill On Senate Short List

The Internet Kill Switch Bill I’ve told you about before (here, here, here and here) continues to evolve and is creeping closer to reality.

According to Moneycontrol.com, two separate bills — one pushed by Senators Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Thomas Carper (D-Del.) and another backed by Senators Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) — have been combined and are now on the Senate’s short list for passage.

The new bill would give the power to shut down the Internet in case of national emergency to the Department of Homeland Security. Under the bill the Internet could be closed down for four months before Congress could review it. The bill would also require cybersecurity professionals be certified.

The elected elites couch the bill as necessary for national security, but Lieberman let slip the real reason when he told CNN’s Candy Crowley, “Right now China — the government — can disconnect parts of its Internet in a case of war. We need to have the ability to do that, too.”

Of course, China disconnects portions of the Internet whenever there’s civil strife, as do other totalitarian regimes. It’s done to suppress the flow of information. Elites hate the free flow of information.

Rockefeller has gone so far to say he wishes the Internet had never been invented and we still communicated with paper and pencil.

Senate aides told Moneycontrol.com the bill faces a number of hurdles but the goal is to get the bill passed and on President Barack Obama’s desk by the end of the year. The bill could come up in the next four weeks, or it could be much later, aides said.

This bill is about one thing: The totalitarian suppression of free speech. The elites and corporate press know they have lost control of the message. This has resulted in the rise of the Tea Party and general discontent over the direction of the American political system. That frightens the fascists on both sides of the aisle.

The Internet Kill Switch Bill is their effort to regain control.

Hat Tip: Infowars.com

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    Lieberman and the rest of the scum above have much in common, starting with the idea that they’re all AIRHEADS. Who the flying hell does Lieberman think he is to say we need to ape CHINA? Is that twit on DRUGS?
    ANY man or woman in Congress or the White House who dares to think that this ‘kill’ feature is an asset is someone who is ready to declare WAR on the 1st Amendment and the American people. Get ready, America. These useful idiots, retards and traitors have to go. It is truly THEM OR US. There is NO middle ground.

    • Warrior

      These guys aren’t leaders, they’re chefs. We start out with a bill about defense spending, then we add a little Dream Amnesty, some more pork, a few more bureaucratic hires and some ADDITIONAL rules and they think they cooked us some stew. Here, take your medicine you idiots!

      • Al Sieber

        Warrior, you’re right about the Dream Act, I was trying to find more about it somewhere I’m glad you brought it up.

        • http://none LindyMaeUSA

          Heads up, Patriots! I fully expect the “Washington Wolf Pack” to PASS the Internet “Kill Switch” long before November 2nd. so they can make sure America’s only form of instant communication is “dead in the water!”

          After that, ALL of us will be COMPLETELY VULNERABLE to Martial Law and everything else the New World Order has planned for “the Fall of America!”

          • iceman

            Be Ready! All of you with military training, stay alert. Your own government may go far enough to require your service in defense of Liberty. We cannot allow their tyranny to bring down the freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution all of congress, and the President and his admin, seem to think they do not have to follow. We are slowly headed for destruction and all of those people mentioned in the prededing sentence seem Hell-bent on denying us our rights and bringing about martial law – - – or worse! Stay Alert!

    • http://none anna frediani

      At one point it becomes a end for the stupid government. They stuff their pockets with humongous paychecks for 30yrs and now they want to
      cut us of on communication and a little extra income. Whats going to happen if all of the unemployed internet community goes on unempoyment?
      and why do we have to mimic the chinese? It would be like cutting of our hands.
      anna

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      TO—SC—- Your right!!!!! These elected officals we voted for in the white house have soldout the American people and want to put in its place a control switch that they control.I sure hope America can get these anti Americans out of office before its to late…..

      • http://zzzz Preston

        9/16/10, Our kids & grands are now on the downside of the prosperity curve.
        Any time you send a hack like Charles Rangel back to Congress, you know to yourself you can’t bid them well because the kids know they’ve got a tough row to hoe—at best. ~~ Preston Weiters, Jr.

  • DaveH

    For sure, Bob. There is no good reason for the Government to be messing with our communications. Any security issues could be addressed at the local level. These people just don’t want the citizens to communicate freely. That is all. Censorship. We need to throw out every politician that votes for this bill.

    • http://PeersonalLibraryDigest Michael G.

      Dave H.
      I think it has already started. With what has happened in Delaware, this may have been the opening shot.
      Even if they try to stop people from communicating, we’ll simply find another way to go around them.
      Smoke signals, anyone?

      • DaveH

        Listen to them cry, Michael:
        http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/RoveODonnellSeanHannity/2010/09/15/id/370358?s=al&promo_code=ABEA-1

        I especially like this line from Rove “This was about Mike Castle’s bad votes”. Well, duh. How dare the voters vote against a politician because of his bad votes.

        • DaveH

          And that is why the politicians don’t like the Internet. It’s too easy for us to see how they are voting.
          For the House of Representatives go to:
          http://clerk.house.gov/legislative/legvotes.html

        • DaveH
        • TIME

          Dave,
          Rove is a progressive RINO thus there is little differance from a Progressive Democrat. They both stink like 10 day old fish in the mid day sun.

          As for this bill I have said over and over Liberman is a 100% total SOB Progressive and should be tossed out of office with a good swift kick in the BUTT. Thus this bill is nothing short of His Marxist beliefs.
          Of what all Progressive Marxist think alike, just change the heads the same crap spills out of their mouths.

          Oddly I found a connection on Lieberman to the “Rothchilds” who gave him $$$$$$ support back when he was running for VP, since then its been scrubbed from the net.

          Did the little piggie go WEEEEEEEEEE WEEEEEEEEE all the way home?
          You bet.

          Strange how that all works.

          Folks Email & Fax your Rep your feelings saying Don’t VOTE for the Kill Switch.

          • DaveH

            Time, I think we need to tell them to keep their grimy hands off the Internet, period, whether it has a kill switch or not.

    • http://none LindyMaeUSA

      Dave H: Get ready to (TRY and) “throw out every politician that votes for this bill” because from what I’ve read, seen and heard this rapaciously greedy, corrupt government do to us (without opposition or our knowledge and permission!) then we have about as much hope of “throwing them all out” as a snowball in Hell!

      Don’t think for a minute this tyrannical government doesn’t have an “ace up their rotten sleeve” to combat our November 2nd. goal! Oh yeah, they’re READY for that and they DO have “a Plan” to thwart what We, The People expect to happen in November! (i.e. dislodging all the government thieves, liars, crooks and cheats.)

      Only the “true God” knows the outcome for November 2nd, our beautiful Country and us . . . and His Name ISN’T “allah!”

    • eyeswideopen

      DaveH, latest news for you radicals. The FCC released additional white zone air waves for consumers to use. They found a way to protect us and the corporations you so love can’t charge us for it!!! Too bad you guys lost this one……

  • dan az

    For every one that sign’s on to that bill should be tried for treason! First step to NWO and to tear up the constitution.Next will be the 2nd amendment take all protection from an unjust government.Bit by Bit they are stealing our rights and nothing is being done about it.If nothing happens in November then I say we get out of this union and start over!

    • DaveH

      I’m for that, Dan.

    • Patriot1737

      To repeal the Second Amendment and even TRY to take our guns,.. will be our last straw and then we can wipe those bastards off the map.

      • Bear

        Not a bad plan Patriot1737. I am a firearms dealer. Every day, I am selling firearms to people who have never owned a gun in their life. They are asking about firearms training and we are puting them into classes with NRA qualiffied instructors along with their new handguns. Many are buying guns other than handguns and these are usually AR-15′s. I do sell some regular sporting rifles and shotguns, but mostly are tactical type weapons. Does that tell you something? Americans are awakening to the threat coming out of Washington and people are getting ready for something and I don’t think it’s a weekend picnic. If these politicians try to pass a bill to cut off our mainstream of free information in the guise that it is for our wellfare in a national emergency, they will be putting their heads on the chopping block and I for one am ready to swing the axe. This is their typical mode of operation. Everything they do is camouflaged in some kind of innocent looking package when in reality it is a blatant attack on our constitutional rights and God given rights. At this point, I am getting tired of waiting for an election to deal with traitors and anti-American politicians. We need to rid ourselves of these individuals period and if wageing war on them one by one is the answer, then it should begin now.

        • Paul R

          Sounds good to me!!!

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Sylvia

          You need to join the Missouri State Militia, 1st Volunteers. I spent many months around ten years ago, trying to be accepted. They were fearful that I could be an FBI implant. I made contact with them from a lady I knew at church for 20 years. I had attended several meetings hoping to be accepted. Then finally at the end, I received word from the leader of the Militia through the lady at church that I had been accepted and I was given a phone number to call, a conversation to say over the phone and I would be given a time and a place that had nothing to do with the militia, but to the conversation, which went like I was wanting to join a ladies club. but I received the time and place to go to, which would be about 5 days away.

          I was all excited, and I attended the next meeting of the militia, two days before I was to meet in secret with the militia leader for my acceptance into the militia and to begin my traing.

          And what happened at that meeting, literally ‘blew’ my mind and put the brakes on me big time. When the leader of the meeting called for a break, everyone in the room was chatting with each other. there was a man who had an accent and looked like a foreigner started up a conversation with me. He was very friendly and asked me a lot of questions, which did make me a little nervous.

          I happened to notice how the leader of the militia and his wife kept looking over at us and pointing sometimes and they were talking among themselves. Then I became highly nervous, for I sensed that something was really wrong and I cut the conversation off and walked over to them and I asked the leader what was wrong. He said, ‘do you know who you were talking to?’. I said no and the leader said, you were talking to a suspected FBI implant.

          that night, I went home and told my husband about everything and we both agreed if I was to merge into the militia and start my training, the FBI would soon be knocking on my door. so I broke all contact with the militia after that. (This all happened shortly after the Wacco incident, the branch dividian compound.

          I have done research work on the one world government, HAARP, weather warfare, biological warfare, the Illuminiti, etc. for 35 years or more. I know exactly where this country is heading and every country in the whole world for that matter.

          Do you know what the paramid on the dollar bill means with the ‘all seeing eye’ and do you know why the top of the paramid is not joined to the whole body of the paramit?

          Have you ever heard of the Biodiversity issue and seen the Biodiversity Map and how the whole united states has been set down into zones. some zones will be banned from all human habation and the masses of the people will be herded into only certain zones so the few in power can control the many.

          Have you ever seen the hidden 3D codes in your own license plate which consists of letters and numbers?

          If you do not know any of the above, please get with me and I will be glad to give you a wealth of information concerning everything that we are all in the process of falling into.

          Sylvia

          • enough?

            SYLVIA I am trying to figure out how to contact you? I am aware of some of the info you are speaking of, but believe we are at a place where we will lose the ability to even read about the true goings-on of our”government”…
            I also agree that waiting for November is just a ‘deathknoll’ for freedom. We have already been advised that a “lame duck” session will relieve the “fear of reprisal to elected officials” who have been voted out…when is enough ENOUGH?

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            sylvia… Can you give us websites to look at? I would like to know more…

          • Sheree

            Sylvia – how do I find out more about bio-diversity etc?

          • Claire

            Sylvia–The Biodiversity Map consists of selecting priority areas for conservation throughout the US. What have you heard concerning this? I am curious.
            The “seeing eye” in the pyramid is just that. It is not connected with the Masonic Order.
            I watched a documentary a few weeks ago about some of this stuff. Did you see it?
            We have a number of Illinois Militia groups. The majority of them are for a very good cause and then there are some that are of debatable character.
            The ones that my husband is familiar with help during times of disaster, they help the needy and perform all sorts of good community service plus the fact they believe in the right to keep and bear arms. They also have training for any type of civil preparedness. My husband and I both are avid supporters in the right to keep and bear arms.

        • Ken

          I’m voting for you, I feel exactly the same, it is way passed time that people get together and one way or another be pro active and remove them from office. I’m open for anything at this time as long as the end result is termination.

        • James

          Bear,
          Let’s look at a scenario.” It’s circa 1776 and we are at a small cabin somewhere in New York, Pennsylvania,etc. Around a rough table, a fire in the hearth are a half dozen men deep in conversation. They are talking about King George(Obama) and angry over the heavy-handed way their desired liberties are being tread upon. The conversation touches on an armed revolution and some around the table vehemently disagree and the conversation reaches into a heated debate. Some feel that if they go along with George(Obama) that he will see the light and realize that we only want more freedom. Others say that in order to realize freedom there may have to be bloodshed and violence. They realize George(Obama) is not going to simply roll over and let this happen. There are troops(black panthers, etc.) on the ground that are more then willing to quash any uprising with extreme violence. Their violence must be met with an even more violent resolve. If only there were another way but George(Obama) will listen to none of this. It’s his way or the highway and his highway leads to death and destruction and so should ours. The meeting comes to an end with 5 out of 6 agreeing to fight for liberty and freedom. With that they adjourn to their respective places and begin what will be the greatest country ever formed”. Now it is circa 2010 and one has to wonder if this scenario is being repeated today. Obama WILL NOT fundamentally change America. The Patriots sitting around a table planning for a possible revolution will see to that. It’s time to give these vermin a taste of their own medicine and to let them know, YOU WILL TREAD ON MY LIBERTIES NO MORE. GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • BrotherPatriot

            GOD Bless America & all the Patriots who love her.

        • Jim

          Time for a revolution – something along the lines of the French di to take control of their lives back!

        • Christine

          I want to buy a gun off the street, no serial number! Having to registering one’s gun is just telling the government where to come pick it up once they ban it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Christine,
            careful what you buy off the street. The weapon could have been used to commit a murder or attempted murder. You get caught with it and YOU are brought up on charges. It also could be stolen from an owner, a store, or even an armory!!! If from an armory it’s federal and could carry big time!!!

          • Claire

            JoeH– Good advice.

        • sylviam

          Thanks for serving John Q. Public, Bear, I think its time for us to put on our RED BANDANAS around our necks, and show these monsters just what a *RED-NECK*, is really about.
          YEars ago the UNION WORKERS, *not the upper DOGS* but just plain old Joes, did to fight their battle at a court of law. It started with a few GOOD men & women walking, then it turned into *afew 100*, then into *a few thousand* by the time they walked into the town where the trial was held at least some went down in the fight, including the first one to stand uplike a MAN. but at the end of the trial the *WORKERS* won the war *litteraly.* But unless you can hold your head up PROUDLY and with HONOR, and PRINCIPLES, this will be for NAUGHT. The evil ones should take heed *WE THE PEOPLE* Will not stand for your EVIL DOINGS. GOD BLESS AMERICA

        • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

          If Americans do not wake-up soon,we will find ourselves living in a country we know nothing about.We need to arm-up and not allow our elected officals to take away all of our rights. Our judges do not interpet law anymore,they make laws. Our elected officals will not keep there promises they make when they promise to do this or that and then get our vote,then they flip over and do a 180 and we should be allowed to outst them for lying. Its a felony to lie to congress so why is it not a felony for congress to lie to the American people? Lets take back America….

        • Carol

          Actually, if I owned a firearm I wouldn’t say so on the internet. It’s too risky. My guns were stolen from me years ago, but are still registered to me. The Reno police dept. refused to take the report because they were stolen from my ex-sister-in-laws house. They told me only the person who owned the property from which they were stolen were allowed to make the report. When I said they were my property and registered to me I was told that was my tough luck. If those guns are used in a crime, I’m the one they’ll come after. If you own a firearm for your own sake don’t publish it on the internet.

      • Dr. Mabuse

        I’m more than sympathetic to your point of view, however I imagine it’ll be kinda hard to effectively offset the arsenal and specific ordnance they have stockpiled to quell any type of a insurrection with mere firearms. How many of us would be willing to sanction certain groups of human beings en masse to further our point of view?
        These questions will be answered one way or another and I don’t plan on holding the short end of the stick. How ’bout you?

        • Dan Burke

          Interesting, but what is holding back our military in Afghanistan? People. We think of our tanks and soldiers with automatic rifles, snipers, gunship support, and even predator drones. Yet for all our military superiority in that war, we are not winning in a clean sweep. So yes, we might not have great arms but it does matter that we the people are armed….

          As for myself, I am sick of all this talk of a bloody revolution. First, give the Democrats a chance to hang themselves (and RINOs too). Don’t just assume that they are going to do x, y, and z. At least see if they do x and y. If we can take back our country before we are under a dictatorship using the existing process our Constitution still affords us, then so much the better. If not, then if there really is revolution with bloodshed, only then after they have committed the crimes can you honestly hold them accountable.

          We so despise the idea of “thought police” and many of us fear that this internet kill switch will actually be a piece in the puzzle of controlling Americans’ thoughts. So why do you want to become that which you so despise? I am against the internet kill switch vehemently, even if that means a risk to our military. I am in IT and I can tell you that the ONLY computer safe from attack is the computer turned OFF (or NEVER connected to ANY outside source–and I mean ANY outside source, including but not limited to DVDs, CDs, USB thumb drives, any network, or the internet especially). No, the internet kill switch safety idea thing is merely illusionary. By the time you would know that your network is compromised, odds are very very good it is TOO LATE. A hacker that does his/her job isn’t detected until AFTERWARDS. And the most effective attacks are based on attacking the users (and not the computer itself), so that variable will always be an issue that a kill switch CANNOT fix. In fact, a kill switch for security will encourage lazy users who may use less vigilance and become a BIGGER security risk…. So this is a false cure.

          When I look at the internet kill switch, the following is the only purpose I see for it. To control the people. Nothing more. Nothing less. JUST like China does it. Everything else is just self-deception. That is why I oppose it.

          • DaveH

            Good comment, Dan.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan,
            As I have stated before, I’m not worried about out military coming after us, what with all the Oath Keepers in the military. I am however, concerned about the people like Blackwater!!! As long as you pay them, they don’t care who they fight or kill!! they have been accused more than once of killing our own troops!!

      • http://PeersonalLibraryDigest Michael G.

        That’s the one thing that scares me. But, I’m a good boy-scout. I’m prepared. How do you like your? .22cal, or 8mm? Either way the end results will be the same.
        I sware, these politicians are too stupid to figure this out. You push too hard, and you’ll get your head handed to you.

        • BrotherPatriot

          History often repeats itself. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it…

          The above is true and it’s also true that in History…often the Elites lose their heads due to them not listening to the people and supporting what is moraly right.

          GOD Bless.

      • dan az

        patriot
        this is a remarkable site that I think everyone here needs to bookmark check it out!
        http://www.barefootsworld.net

        • BrotherPatriot

          Nice one! Read & learn…

    • http://none anna frediani

      They can only push so far people are not going to like it. anna

      • http://none LindyMaeUSA

        Anna: “not liking it” (i.e. what this government IS DOING, WILL DO to us!) and “being forced to ACCEPT IT!” are two different things! This government DOESN’T CARE if “we like what they’re doing or not!” They have an AGENDA and they will continue following it!

        Why doesn’t (probably, WON’T) the “Majority” understand that yet???

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      I will not give up my guns!!!!! I will not convert to islam!!!!! I will not learn how to make a prayer rug and face mecca 5 times a day!!!!!! I am willing to fight to the end and I will vote these anti Americans out of office….America,your elected officals have sold us out and we voted for them……Lets vote them out…..

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    I fore told this mess would arrive one day,long ago 10yrs to be exact,i was told that i was so wrong,the exact words i said ,was were are heading toward a neo-com zoinst police state,like russia had during communist time,and sadly i quess i was right,well the traitors are coming out of the wood work(TERMITES AND TWO LEGGED VARMINTS)ALL THESE FOLKS MUST BE VOTED OUT QUICK,PRONTO,NO INCUMBANTS THIS YEAR,ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.MAY PROVIDANCE AND GOD ALMIGHTY BE ON OUR SIDE,TO SET EVERYTHING RIGHT AGAIN,IF NOT THIS NATION IS LOST.

    • Robert Kepka

      Well— Vote ‘em out? Nice words if the American voter had any real idea of what’s happening. even if they are told they still refuse to believe it.Out of 535 seats we may only change from 38 to 50 seats so how does that really change anything? And many of those seats are party picks. Where does the real problem lie? It’s with the political parties.We have the two major parties controlled by the shadow government(Bilderbergers, Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, etc.).Ask yourself, who choses the candidates you vote for? It’s the political party. They give you a choice at the primary and no matter which one you chose he was picked by the party and those that are not party picks will be denegrated and the party favorite will get lots of financial backing.Changing these parties through ballot evolution is an exercise in futility. Our nation will be long gone and unless the American voter decides to look at parties outside the two major parties there may only be one recourse left. We are facing today much of what our Founders faced. A repressive government and high taxation

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Sounds to me like you are very informed. I like that. Its nice to see there are still Americans who get it… I hope you keep spelling it out so those whomare less informed but still vote will get it… Great job.

      • Average Joe Patriot

        That about sums it up, Robert. Vandals have invaded our community kitchen, but they are nice, caring vandals. They offer a us a choice: Would we rather they ate the Wheaties, or the Cheerios? The ham, or the chicken? Of course, good doobies who play along will get to keep some of the crumbs and scraps for themselves. Anyone pointing out the fact that these are, in fact, thieving vandals will, of course, get nothing. Worse, their names will be noted for future special attention.

        Meanwhile, all the “good” citizens of the community will hold up their purple thumbs and say: “Well, at least we tried!”

        Looking back at the beginning of what is now the United States of America, we see that one fair spring morning, well-armed organized vandals showed up in the communities of Concord and Lexington, Massachusetts. They weren’t after grain stores, they were seeking to confiscate powder, shot, and firearms (they’d already done their best to shut down dissenting printing presses and squelch obstreperous assemblage). This really happened. First the vandals told everybody to shut the hell up, then they came for the guns. That particular morning they got a mouthful of feathers and arrived back in Boston shot to rags.

        The rest is history. Which does, in fact, repeat itself. And for the same reasons.

        So, you good doobies out there, you be sure and vote for which vandals you’d like to have eat your breakfast. At least you can say you tried.

        Personally, I think that while they’re rifling through our kitchen, I’d rather be with the citizens forming a human shield around the gun cabinet. At least I know it’ll be there when we need it, when the choice is to go down hungry, or cower with crumbs on my lips.

      • Jigsaw

        What do our politicians think they will be need for, once Oboma has his new world order? He has already replaced them with his czars and they continue to allow him to build his loyal.

        Also ignore the socialist who just joined us. “Centerist” It still wants to blame Bush for everything of the past 40 years.

  • DaveH

    This guy looks like a Liberal. Maybe the dunderheads will listen to him:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzwaK7t-o9g&feature=fvsr

    • dan az

      Dave that had to be the hardest guy that I ever had to listen to but he did make a strong case.What really bothers me is why is the military on the internet in the first place? they should be on there own satelites in a secure inviroment.Unless that is a lie also.

      • Angel Wannabe

        dan az, my old man and I were talkin about this, I find it hard to believe the military uses the same, www as we do?! __If communication goes down the feds have to have a back up. If the civilians world wide web are shared with military & National Security that’s just throughly ridulous and frankly un-believable.! Given the thin skin of this Administration, b/c you know how we talk about Obama like a dawg!, it’s nothing more than to control the message & stop dissent. Well folks, get your fingers ready we’ll soon have to start passing notes to one another, like we did in grade school to communicate! What a bunch of Socialist idiots!

        • dan az

          Angel
          The way to go would be ham radio it takes a triangular point to find you and with the reach of today’s equipment you can be any where in the states and sound like your next door.It would be very difficult to find any one.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan az,
            they have equipment that can triangulate a cell phone in any city in any state. Why doubt they couldn’t do it with ham??

          • dan az

            Joe
            the cell towers are they way that they do that with a ham its radio freq. and are harder to trace its not digital.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan az,
            they were triangulating radios in WW2 so I’m sure they can do it even better now. I only wish they couldn’t as we should have the freedom to communicate as we see fit!

    • Patriot1737

      I looked at this video, and youtube would not post my comment, and it is not the first time. They have obviously tagged we conservative/tea party people so that we don’t get our opinions out there.

      • Paul R

        Isn`t that a violation of your 1st amendment rights???

        • Paul R

          sue u-tube!!!

        • vicki

          U-tube is not the government. They can censer your speech to their hearts content.

      • DaveH

        Speaking about the Tea Party, Patriot, I saw this tidbit of news about Christine O’Donnell:
        “O’Donnell defeated nine-term Rep. Mike Castle, a fixture in Delaware politics for a generation and a political moderate. Republican Party officials, who had touted him as their only hope for winning the seat in the fall, made clear as the votes were being counted that they would not provide O’Donnell funding in the general-election campaign”.

        The Republican Party “made clear” they would not provide funding for Christine. You Republicans need to do something about that. The good old boys club doesn’t like their leadership challenged. They are not much better than the Democrats. Go Christine!

        • sylviam

          AMEN!!!!!!!

        • DaveH

          More on that from Gunowners of America:
          http://gunowners.org/a091510.htm

          • http://?? Joe H.

            daveH,
            got that as well today myself. Made me want to celebrate. Anther anti down and gone!!!

  • Arpi

    I wonder if it’s possible to get a Constitutional Amendment passed in all 50 states to make it illegal for any US politician – local, state or Federal – to accept money from a foreign national or government. Most of our problems seem to be our government being more concerned about the opinions and feelings of non-US people and entities than about Americans. It could perhaps throw a monkey wrench into the rush to merge America with some global monolith and could remove all foreign influence from our government.

  • gijoe

    First order of war is to disrupt communication. You should also be looking at the USPS and the things they are planning. States going to street address has created a real mess. Funny how it survived almost 200 years and now it’s this mess and getting worse.

    • Paul R

      Second, cut off supplies, then divide and conquer!!!

    • s c

      My Dad worked for the Post Office for many years, gijoe. Dad would not recognize what passes for the Post Office now. Aside from instant communication with America and the rest of the world, the best reason for keeping the internet is to keep slamming Uncle Scam with a competiton source that he can’t stand and someday will try to destroy (for “our own good,” of course). Screw Uncle Scam and all who worship the miserable, treasonous, sunny beach.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        sc,
        i gave the PO about a year. too cut throat now. We haven’t had a permanent delivery person on our route for over a year. Our mail comes anywhere from noon to 5:45 PM! When we had a permanent person, we got our mail at 2:30 PM +or- 20 minutes! this is crap! We are also missing mail at times as well. Our auto insurance bill has gone missing at least 5 or 6 times. All of a sudden we get a notice it will expire at noon 10 days later. I go right over and pay it at the office!! I’m so tired of it it isn’t funny!!

  • Stephen

    We need some smart people to come up with an alternate way to continue communication when the inevitable happens.

    • Paul R

      I guess its C.B.`s and short wave radios!!!

      • JLC

        Paul R — To be legal, you’ll need a FCC license!

        • vicki

          The FCC gave up on licensing of CB radio many years ago. Also short range low power transmitters have NEVER needed licensing. Receivers are so much more sensitive now that a lot of communication can be done with low power stations and Unix/linux programs such as uucp

          • JLC

            Vicki — Thank you! I was not aware of that. I stopped using CB years ago —— it was getting too hard to get a word in edgewise. I still have — and use — ny HAM license, though.

        • Paul R

          Its on the back of the car man!

    • Annie

      I’ll agree with that or even someone smart enough to invent a mechanism that would prevent them from turning off the internet, even if they passed that bill.

    • Dr. Mabuse

      Dial up…
      Alt. net…
      Use.net …

      • sylviam

        Thank YOU very much!!!!!

  • FreedomFighter

    Information is power.

    Lack of information is to freedom, like a blind man running accross an LA freeway at certain times of the day, also dragging a 30 kilo ball and chain-”its death”.

    All tyrants and evil goverments must suppress information to continue to exist or maintain power.

    A goverment for the “will of people”, such as our American Republic, does not need to suppress information nor do they interfer with the public news centers and create propagada outlets, lamestream media.

    The Progressive Liberal Communist left, like all evil, cannot maintain power or control without suppression of the truth.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Paul R

      I for one am tired of being treated like some kind of toy. The AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST MAKE A STAND FOR FREEDOM NOW!!! or We could all start learning Chinese or Russian or Muslim???

    • tg7357

      The biggest mistake the governments of the world ever made was letting individuals own computers. Now, they can’t sugar-coat or edit as much as they used to before You-Tube or someone gets it and puts it out to the public. Truth really hurts, doesn’t it, Uncle Sam? you may be watching us, be we are watching you, too!!! And there are more of us than there are of you!

      • Paul R

        Well put.

      • vicki

        When I was younger there used to be a saying “freedom of the press is for those who own presses” It was a cute jab at MSM of the time. With the advent of personal computers came things like BBS’s and Usenet and more and more people had access to presses.

        With the advent of the world wide web a simple press was made available to a huge number of people. Thanks to a large number
        of those “evil” corporations most anyone who can access the net (and with public libraries that really is most everyone) can create their own website, blog, etc or post their opinions on youTube or blogs such as facebook, livejournal etc.

        So truly we can say that freedom of the press now belongs to everyone. Kinda makes sense that the elite who would be our
        dictators don’t like it much.

  • Anker Vinje

    Keep the internet free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Patti

    Just one step closer to dictatorship! We must do something about this in November. Replace those that sponsor these sorts of things. We should have never let the Liberals take control. Wake up America — Before it’s too late!

    • DaveH

      I agree, Patti. All Freedom Lovers need to carefully note which of their Senators and Representatives vote for any Internet Regulation Bill. Then at the next election, vote every one of those self-absorbed politicians out of office. No Forgiveness.
      This is one we can’t afford to let them sneak by us.
      I am simply going to tell all of my Representatives that a vote for “any” internet regulation will lose them my vote, and that I will email all my friends and relatives to inform them of such.

      • dan az

        not a bad idea Dave if every one say 30 million or so wrote and said they would do the same then then maybe and I say again maybe they would listen to the employers!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        DaveH,
        In the past, I have said I’m against voting all of them out, but I’m getting to where I’m more and more into the idea!!! These ba$tards are ALL starting to pi$$ me off!!!

        • dan az

          Joe I think we need new blood in there,and when they do go in then they should sign a contract with us that says if they dont listen to what we say then they can and will be fired.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan az,
            right as usual!!!

  • http://none anna frediani

    This is turning into the most total anti people government. Are they forgetting “we the People are their biggest assett” Without us they
    could’nt get their fat salaries, keep their mistresses and steal from the masses. They patted their pockets for 30yrs or until they die, then they pass on their gov. Job to their children. So when our Republic
    dyes, they will not be hurting, “we the people will be”.
    This almost sounds like what happend in France in “1789″
    It’s a major train Wreck waiting to happen. come election day we need to vote out all the incumbents(2nd or 30yr)termers. Remember what happen’d under Obamas Democratic rule.
    ann

    • DaveH

      Liberals are too ignorant to know they can’t kill the Golden Goose.

  • Bear

    Many of you haven’t lived long enough to see just how much of our freedoms have been taken away by this government that was supposedly created by the states for the benefit and protection of the states. Yes, that’s how it all began and the safeguards to prevent that government from getting too big were put in place by our founding fathers. The only problem is that we have not been using those safeguards as was planned by those founding fathers. We have allowed our educational system to be infiltrated by Marxists, Socialists and even Communists to teach their phylosophies to our youth and to endoctrinate them to a different way of life while the politicians began restricting the teachings of our rich heritage and the values that we actually stand for. Are you getting the picture? We are being taken over without a single shot being fired. Isn’t that what Carl Marx predicted? I think it’s time to screw up Carl Marx’s theory. It’s time to start firing some shots and it’s time to start deporting those who want to live in a society other than a Republic. If we, in this country, are going to restrict any freedoms at all, then it should be the freedom to change our way of life from the foundation it was originally built on. If we are going to pass any laws to restrict any religous freedoms, then it should be a law that forbids any religion that advocates inhialating all other religions other than it’s own. I.E., Islam! Understand that the Quran advocates the practice of deception as one of its commandments to achieve its end results. That includes Obama telling us that he is a Christian. I don’t buy it! Islam is not merely a religion, it is a way of life. It is an entire phylosophy an plan for the existance of a society which includes Shiria law.

    • Rich W

      A resounding amen to that

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    It’s all part of the gvts. plan for total control. without a means to communicate it becomes very difficult to organize, as China and BO & Company well know. It that happens then we will stand as freedom loving individuals. Stay the Course !

  • Frank

    Better be ready, if they want to shut down the internet, it is possible there may be no elections in November!!! These idiots will stop at nothing………

    • Paul R

      Neither will we!!!

  • http://www.fontanastudio.com Alan

    No surprise that this administration is in lock step with Ahmadinijad,
    Mao, Hitler, and every other dictator who has disrupted communications.
    I am reminded of a war game in which the ‘good guys’ knocked out the’enemy’ communications with an EMP bomb. So then the ‘enemy’ used
    semaphore to launch a rocket attack to sink the good guys’ fleet.
    The brass stopped the game ! Said it wasn’t fair. Trouble is, war is not a game, and it ain’t fair. And it’s hard to stop.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Alan,
      Imadinnerjacket can kiss my azz!!!

  • tg7357

    This is tyranny in disguise of Homeland Security. If it hadn’t been for the internet, the terrorists would be a lot more successful in their attacks on America than they have been. Like all braggarts, they can’t help writing glowing ovations for themselves on public forums.
    Homeland Security has enough power: leave the ‘Net alone!!! If the Feds want to spy on us, install another camera out there somewhere.

    • DaveH

      And if the Feds did put a system in place that would shut down the Internet, it would, like all systems, be subject to hacker attack. So, they would actually be playing right into the hands of would-be terrorists.

      • tg7357

        Or would-be freedom fighters. Terrorists aren’t the only ones who monitor government websites and the ‘Net. Push coes to shove, you might be surprised at how many ‘hackers’ hate the Feds like the rest of us/

    • Rich W

      Poison the minds of the young, register all weapons, and a whole lot of others thatwill scare the hades out of you. GOD Bless America

  • Paul R

    The only good thing about this is the government is afraid of the masses communicating. That means they fear the people`s wrath!!!

    • DaveH

      You’re right, Paul. If their principles were desirable, they wouldn’t need to worry at all about open communication. But they aren’t, so they do.

  • DANNY

    Thirty years ago I became interested in “the other news” Such as the Spotlight, a populist newspaper that was shut down by government pressure and was then restarted as American Free Press. At that time I had a hard time believing whay they were saying was true. It just seemed so far out of the mainstream. Now I realize that what they were preaching is coming to pass. A majority of this country is living with their heads in the sand and the sooner we wake up the better. Don’t ever think that it it can’t Happen in America. Ask any other country that has been taken over and I’ll bet they thought it couldn’t happen there either. Our problem is that we have been slowly manipulated and changed to a point where we don’t even resemble the nation our Constitution was built upon. Who’s fault is this you might ask? Try looking in the mirror. We have been lulled into becoming complacent, fat and lazy citizens who have forgotten how to stand up for our freedoms. That has to change as fast as this November election by everyone getting involved and taking our country back. If that doesn’t happen, it’s no ones fault but our own. Make it your priority to influence everyone you have contact with to the importance of this election and voting out the crooked politicians.

  • tg7357

    My, my. Isn’t it just becoming amazing how much this regime under Obama is starting to look like Germany under Hitler? What’s next: we have to sing the ‘Horst Wessel’ or ‘Obama The Beautiful’ instead of ‘The Star Spangled Banner’????

    • Paul R

      Hail Bomma!!! ha ha

      • tg7357

        Pretty soon its going to be ‘Obama Uber Alles’ unless we put a stop to him as a nation.

        • Paul R

          You do remember what happened to Hitler???

          • tg7357

            Yeah, and its a real pity the Russians didn’t get to him first. I’m sure Stalin would have liked to have had a few personal words with this old running buddy from Germany before he blew him away.

  • http://gmail i41

    As I have said this marxist muslim mule and his domestic radical terrorists, with the socialist democrats bobbibg to anything the muslim marxist wants, nothing would suprise me. Cancel elections, kill or diable the internet, jam any communication, or just shut down trading for a month. This corrupt power hungry smuck along with the clowns above should have their sorry rears removed from office and tried as teasonous with Onumnutts and his gang.

  • Paul R

    They can have my computer when they can pry it from my cold dead fingers!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Sylvia

    This is Sylvia again.
    The reply I just gave a few minutes ago I wish to say that I address it to anyone who wants to know the ‘whole truth’ concerning everything that is going on in the government and the world and also what is going on in the Catholic Church since the 1960′s. it is all part of the One World Government and the One World Religion.

    Believe me, I have enough information that will blow your mind. I know so, because this is exactly what happened to me when I learned everything. The ‘fullness of the truth’ made me so nervous that I had to put away all my ‘research work’ papers and force my mind to stop thinking about anything other than my job and raising my children. The ‘complete truth’ made me that nervous

    So if anyone really wants to know the ‘whole story’ of what is happening around them, please contact me.

    Sincerely,
    Sylvia

    • Paul R

      Put a web site up.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        PaulR,
        something tells me that Sylvia isn’t the patriot she makes herself out to be!! If she were, she would leave a site to go to or tell us how to find the info she is talking about. I think a) she is trying to sell the info or b) she is a plant trying to get an idea of who the ones are that are interested!!

        • Claire

          JoeH– I am inclined to agree with you.

    • s c

      Sylvia, my research/re-education goes back to the mid-’70s. Dole out what you know in teaspoon amounts. Most Americans are not yet ready for everything they need to know.
      It’s bad enough that there are so many people around the world working for evil. Couple that with the Biblical idea that ‘we do not fight against flesh and blood,’ and it gets spooky and mind-blowing in a hurry. ‘Public education’ can be countered, but it takes time. Sadly, I don’t think we have much time left.

      • BrotherPatriot

        Yep…so true s c. I went through a range of emotions…to the point I had to walk away for awhile and settle down for a few days. Then I went to try & prove myself wrong & only came up with more truth after cross researching topics at several different sites as I dug for information. Of course I found sites trying to debunk it all…but often I got the feel of how desperate & resorting to cussing and trying to make anyone who says such things seem like a crazy tin foil hat wearer. It became readily apparent what the truth was…especially once you got down deep and read into history. Who the people were that were involved, what organizations they were attached to…what those organizations and other people they associated with did…etc.

        End result…

        I finally had to accept that what is happening has been a planned event. A planned attack and that those people are real. The UN, CFR, Trilateral Commision and Bilderbergs really are profiting from War and working both sides of the conflicts, etc in order to destroy the Sovereignty of Nations to create a New World Order. A return to Feudalism where there is the upper elite crust and the rest of us are closely monitored, controlled cattle to feed their desires. Now they are using Islam like a tool and when the time is right…they will then turn on each other as well as neither can exist with the other…but both are weaker than America when we wake up as a Nation.

        They can’t destroy America through force so they have gone deceptive and are destroying us from within. How else can a man who hasnt’ even proven that he’s an American become our President? What would such a man do? Listen to what Mike Savage is saying now days and see what his research has led him to say about the truth of what is happening and who Obummer is. Mr. Savage’s toon changed because he Awakened. Let’s hope this awakening continues because I also feel we are running out of time.

        Indeed…its scarcely believable…so spoonfull’s at a time is recommended for the majority. It really blows your mind, my brothers & sisters and that alone is a defence for the people we are talking about. Patriots before us have tried to come out & speak the truth…such as Jim Tucker, Daniel Estulin, Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski, Mike Savage, Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, Capt. William Morgan, John Todd, and even Scott Wolter as he give verification to what he believes is a Land Claim stone called the Kenningston Runestone.

        I will take it one step further and say it out loud because it must be said…unfortunately, the Deep level Mason’s are Illuminati. This organization has been warned about since their inception in 1776. The bottom of the piramid on the one dollar doesn’t celebrate the founding of America on that date…but the Illuminati who now have their fingers into everything now. Get educated while you can…they are attempting to take that opportunity away from you by implementing the “kill switch”. It’s what all tyranical regime’s have done…quell the flow of information in order to keep their control.

        It’s all like a mathematical equation. Once you start looking at the information (dots) and then step back & look at it from a distance…a picture begins to take form. It’s irrefutable, historical evidence that is glaring at us. We all have but to wake up and see the truth that History has laid out for us.

        Here is some information that I have been compiling…I have posted it often but here it is again.

        http://www.dragonflightguild.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4874

        God Bless us and all Patriots standing up for what is right & the truth. End the career politition…set term limits…make our elected public servants become accountable to us. No longer keep your heads in the sand…(or up your Arse)…stand up for what is right & true and GOD will see us through.

        Have faith for you are never alone if GOD is in your heart. Have a good day, my brothers & sisters.

        • Frank

          I’ve been reading all the responses on this and I must say God bless you all for hard times are coming in this country. May our Father in heaven watch over his own. I’m not of any religion, but have the Father in my heart and he is who I praise above all the religions of man.
          I sense God in a lot of you and don’t thank your church for that, thank your Father who is within all his children who love true freedom and hate evil no matter what form it takes.
          Not to get off the subject, but I see all the storms how they intensify every year getting stronger and stronger all the time. God is working for us on the other side and don’t give up on him. He knows what is coming way before we do.
          Just for the record, though I don’t expect any of you to believe this, but I will state this whether you beleive it or not. God has turned satan loose for the last time. Kayos is about to break out in this country and when it does, evil shall be within this country as never seen before. Not even the civil war can be an example of what’s coming down. Yet, two incidents in history one, stated in the Bible, and one in the Egyptian War Records.
          In the bible, was a mention of a war where Gods people gathered at night to war against their enemy the next day. But when they awoke found all 185,000 of their enemy dead by mysterious circumstances.
          In the Egyptian war records is of a gathering of all of Egypts armies to fight their enemy the next day. Yet, the next morning all of their enemy was dead to the last man. Mysteriously.
          You may think I’m a nut, and foolish, but I believe something is going to happen that will clean all evil from off the face of this earth and it’s going to have Gods hands all over it. Yet few shall be left once evil is truly removed.
          I love my freedom as much as you all do and I can sense the anger for what’s going on with our government. Governments have always been evil in my eyes. I truly believe good people need no laws to know how to live in harmony with each other in all aspects of life. Though I own no guns though I have owned guns, I believe each person with a brain and a heart can own, and do whatever they like as long as they don’t push their ideology on others. I belong to no church, for God is within me, as he is in all who know who they are, not in men’s eyes, but Gods eyes.
          I truly believe we may wake up one morning as Gods people did in the Bible and find our enemies mysteriously gone. The same happened to the Egyptians. God has come many times to earth and tried to teach man in all generations of truths beyond the teachings of men, but men always have their own ways.
          May no one take this wrong, for if I have to fight to protect my fellow men, and give my life to save another, I will. I can be as blood thirsty as the next guy, but I pray I don’t have to and I pray none of us will have to.
          As God watched over his people who stayed in their homes on the night his spirit went through Egypt slaying all first born of Egypt, so shall that same truth sweep through this country and clear out all evil once and for all. You see, I don’t pray for peace. I pray for all evil, in Gods eyes, to be removed. If evil is taken, peace is left.
          God bless.

          • Darla

            I’m right there with you , brother. It is as I have been commenting on it within my family. God is still in control, has always been in control and will continue to be in control through all of the coming days. I was just reading in my Bible yesterday about all that happened in the old testament prior to the Israelites being banished to Babylon (Amos 9:10)and about who would be the ones who would be purged from God’s sight. God didn’t say that it would be the ones serving Him, he said that he would be casting out the sinners from among his people.
            Another scripture that has an interesting message to is found in the book of Revelation 21:8. Here it clearly speaks of what will happen to those who do the things that this current LOSER washington administration is bringing forth. All I can say is that if you don’t want to spend eternity in hell with the likes of obama and his cronies and the upper echelon elite who are destroying the world as we know it, make sure that you know Jesus Christ personally. Hell is going to be full of these low life scumbag types that are ruining everything that our fore fathers put together. If you don’t want to read the Bible, by all means read the book titled “23 Minutes in Hell”. It is a real eye opener to what hell is really about and is backed up by over 150 scriptures found in God’s word, The Holy Bible. Until then I am keeping my nose clean and campaigning for the Heavenly Father. God will make everything right and those muslims….unless they repent and acknowledge Jesus Christ, well let’s just say that they are all hell bound. People make choices all the time, just make sure that you make the right one with God in mind.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          BrotherPatriot,
          I notice you leave out any mention of what level in the masons that knoledge begins. My father was an active mason for over 50 years. he was also a deacon in the Baptist church. He would give a man the shirt off of his back and ask for nothing in return except to maybe pass the favor on if you ever became able. I never heard a racist word out of his mouth. he raised three kids without the benefit of a wife till I was fifteen as his first and second wives died.My mom or step mom, if you want to get technical, died not long ago as a good many here probably remember me telling of it. My dad worked for about 65 years to make sure we always had what we needed and only retired when they made him he was just shy of 90 years old when he diedand got a well deserved rest. Now does this sound like a person that would join ANY organization like you speak of??? Oh, and the reason I made the comment on levels, is that in the past if I said my dad was a 12 degree they would say “oh it starts at 14 th degree. If I said he was a fifteenth degree they would say 17 was the magic number or 20th or 300th!!! give me a break!

          • BrotherPatriot

            Often in times past (but things are changing now that the internet dissiminates information so easily & people are waking up in droves) back then many Masons didn’t know what was going on in the deeper levels of their organization.

            If you fully read what I & others have been saying, that there are indeed many good men who are members of the Masons. They are totally unaware of what goes on in the deeper degrees in their special meetings that only the highest of Masons are able to attend. They are there specifically for the reason to be the human face on the deeper, darker workings. By having this outer shell, they put up a facade of normalness to the public image. They are there purposefully and will not reach the deeper degrees for this reason as they provide a buffer.

            I’m sorry…I truely wish not to offend but that can’t be helped. You can’t please everyone all the time. I’m just here to reveal the truth as all my research has proven this to me. The math of it all truely begins to add up once you wrap your brain around the equation of the components & see who is rubbing shoulders with who, what organizations they are affiliated with and what the history of those organizations & men are. I sincerely wish I was wrong…but I’m not.

            The Bilderbergs link into the Masons/Illuminati, the jews are in control of most media outlets (they are the owners), isreal supreme court is saturated by the masons ideology and it all ties into the very people who run the whole picture…the Rothschilds/Rockefellers & all their various forms of spelling their names.

            vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

            ^^ There is a link to prove who is running the show…

      • dan az

        sc
        In the 70s I didnt believe it but by the 80s there was to much evidence that only a fool wouldn’t believe it.Life changing to say the least.

    • Gene

      I would definately bem interested in your observations regarding what you learned. Especially regarding the Catholic Church and how they are involved in this global government experiment

  • SteveB

    everytime Obama needs a couple of Rino votes,its always Snowe & Collins of Maine.[offensive sentence removed]

    • tg7357

      I’ve to a couple of bucks and a postage stamp if they don’t.

      • Paul R

        Or a cellphone

    • Paul R

      I think they just violated your 1st and 2nd amendment rights at the same time. AMAZING!!!

  • POLARIS

    PEOPLE WAKE THE F__K UP!!!
    These people are crazy! ALL business and corporate America depend on the Internet! Everybody’s phone, cable TV, banking, grocery stores, department stores, drug stores, stock market, gas stations, electric power co., water works, hard ware stores, police department and yes even the military literally every thing that we do is connected to the Internet in some way. If the Internet goes down ALL this STOPS instantly! We would be defenseless from attack! You won’t be able to by or sell anything in America! Ever go the a store or a gas station and they tell you the computers are down and they can’t sell you anything, that because they lost their Internet connection! Every body would lose their jobs and we would go back to the stone age, not even a third world country. A group of boy scouts can take over America, as long as they have their finger on that button! He who control that button rules America. This kind of power can not be allowed! America need to wake up!

    • coal miner

      Polaaris,

      I am with you on that one.

  • Gary Summers

    Well we have Home Land Security ( another Federal Police Dog ).
    who says it is a security threat. Here’s a news flash for you we have
    a radical, terrorist, muslim, and his terrorist cell in the White House. I think all of you get my point. If they kill the internet
    we will all have to send washington a hand written note. Get your bullets out write your message, load in your gun, and just shoot them
    a line.

    • dan az

      Gary S
      how can homeland security be of any value if they havent found the illegal that is in the white house?

  • Constitutional, Chris

    HMMM? Could it be; “mere coincidence,” that all those listed in the

    Conspiracy to DESTROY: “FREEDOM of the PRESS”, under the pretense/

    feeble asserted excuse, to: PROTECT the COUNTRY, are among the 70+

    members, who are among the “Registered Members”, of the “DEMOCRATIC

    SOCIALISTS of America”? Things that make one GO HMMMM!

  • john

    Has anyone ever googled Fema concentration camps..you will see where we are headed

    • FreedomFighter

      We are many, we have honor, we have faith in god, our cause is just.

      We the people of the United States will prevail!

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • BrotherPatriot

        Hellya brother…even if many of us don’t make to the end…just as Martin Luther King said,

        “I’m not concerned about that now. I just want to do GOD’s will…that I may not get there with you…but that we as a people will get there to the promise land. So I’m happy tonight that I’m not worried about anything that I’m not fearing any man. Mine Eye’s have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord!”

        You will not stand on the line alone, my brothers & sisters if it comes to that.

  • tg7357

    France–1789
    United States–2012
    Can happen.

  • s c

    Correct me if I’m wrong, people, but I don’t think there is even ONE half-assed response by a progressive listed on this topic. Is the internet not important to those twits? Hmmmmm.

    • DaveH

      It’s too early for them, SC. Give them a few more hours to get out of bed.

    • tg7357

      Its too early on the Left Coast yet. Sun’s not up over the horizon there. Give them fifteen or twenty more minutes, or until “Captain Kangaroo” goes to commerical break, whichever comes first.

    • 45caliber

      Keep in mind that many of them are on Welfare too. Why get up early when you can sleep till noon and then party at night?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      sc,
      I was gonna say that coal dunger is/was here but then I realized that you said half assed. I remembered that he isn’t even 1/4 assed!!!

      • dan az

        Joe so where is eddie and flash and the wicked witch?

    • alpha-lemming

      The progs on this sight want the internet as much as anybody. They just don’t want to have to do anything to create ro support it…. too much work!! They most CERTAINLY want to control it ala the “Fairness Doctrine” and other such nonsense. Just like Animal Farm… “some speech SHOULD be more free than others”.

  • Larry Owens

    All boils down to more Government control and less freedom we have, of course their objective is to control every aspect of our Life’s.

    What a bunch of Sorry low lifes we have as leaders or should we just call them Cowards.

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    Good morning everybody and fellow Americans. All we have to do is remain united, focus on the members of Congress who need to be removed, and vote them out. Absent that, who has any idea how long the United States of America as we know it, will still be around.The levels of communication must remain open—end of story.

  • http://sbcglobal.net Alan B

    Hello all! I’ve been a ardent student of the NWO scheme and have a Political Science background. I’m a combat vet of two wars as far back as Vietnam 68-69 and retired Army in 2004. I’ve been researching all this as well as some of you here. I have to say Sylvia above is right on with her comments. I also have to say, it matters not, what party is in office of our two party system. All candidates they put up are “ringers” to insure the status quo of the NWO! We do need a Constitutional Third Party. The likely hood of it happening is virtually nada. We are too fractionalized in our political beliefs in our great country. They, ( political elites ) know this as well. They are laughing at us when we argue politics
    on a level as a sports fan. We all would like to vote all the incumbents out. The result will continue to be “what is now is good”
    Changes are usually incremental at best. A prime example of the
    marginality of our vote is Lieberman. When he knew he wouldn’t be
    reelected, he runs as a independent and he won. Reelection is all they care about.
    NWO ORDER and those organizations promoting it are the
    Trilateral Commission, CFR / Council on Foreign Relations, and the
    Bilgenbergers. The latter is the most dangerous and heads up all the other groups. This is not conspiracy theory. This is fact.
    You can research these groups on your own. By design they have relegated our USA to a soon to be, Third World status. These groups have passed the torch to China to get them on board the NWO.
    World multinational business is the power. World peace where they have uninterrupted world trade, and total enslavement of the masses are the reasons. And finally perpetuation of the elitist, in whatever country, is at the heart of their mission.
    Yes, Our Constitution and Our People are expendable in
    their eyes, as there is no loyalty when it comes to making money. It’s all about the emerging markets. Where our US Market is saturated in comparison. They go where the most money is to be
    made. Maybe later they come back here and pick up the pieces after we hit a new low. This is kind of the way our US Stock Market has been playing out. So you see our country is in dire straights.
    It will take a miracle for us to “GET OUR COUNTRY BACK”. We can,
    but we better hurry. They have the power, money, media, laws, military, and the plans in place to deal with most any eventuality. The best thing we can do is pass the word now, get busy and start screaming our heads off to every elected, or potential elected official now! You can start with this internet denial threat.
    Thanks for hearing me out. Alan B

    • DaveH

      Alan,
      We have a third party that believes what our Founders believed. They want to get back to Limited Government, Free Markets, Abolish the Income Tax, Respect Individual Freedom for people to control their own bodies and property, and demand Personal Responsibility. My Party would allow people to poison their own bodies with drugs as long as they didn’t harm others in the process, and with the knowledge that if they screwed up with their personal experiments, they could not depend on the help of unwilling donors.
      But there are too many people that think they can control all misfortune through Big Government. They think they want Freedom, but everytime they are given a choice they go for the controls that Government falsely promises will cure the problems. Funny, we still have all those same problems, only we are poorer now after paying for all that protection.

      • DaveH
        • dan az

          Dave H
          I hear Ron Paul is thinking of running again.Now if he can only survive the attemp’s of asasanations then there may be a chance.I feel like a copper head in the matrix. oh sorry about the spelling you no me.

    • BrotherPatriot

      ^^ True words ^^

  • ReddFrogg

    The idea of an internet killswitch (if any such thing could exist) violates so many Constitutional rights that it cannot be allowed to happen. The fact that they even consider it means that these people should not be allowed to hold public office! Rockerfeller says he wished the internet had never been invented. Well, I do him one better. I wish Rockerfellers had never ever been born! Then maybe we would not have ever had Prohibition, big oil would not have been so big and cars would have been running on alcohol long ago!

    So, if they manage to pull this killswitch thing off, then how long will it be before they do the same with telephones and telegraph? After all, I would bet that there were people like Rockerfeller who wished that telephones and telegraphs had never been invented too!

    • DaveH

      We turned our heads when the FCC was established. The excuse was that there were so many people wanting to use the airwaves and so few bandwidths available. But they could have simply set up a process to sell people certain bandwidth zones (like we now do real estate), and otherwise butt out. Instead they chose to license people and then meddle with the content of their programs. Talk about censorship.
      Let’s not drop the ball on this one. The Internet has done just fine without Federal meddling. Do not let them sweet talk you that any regulation is necessary.

  • http://www.gunthorp,com Gardner Behrends

    My Y2K tool was a pencil sharpener. I have CB, marine, and short wave, but they all can be jammed or pinpointed. I wonder how long it would take Paul Revere to ride his horse from DC to the fly over country?

    Our only defense will be at the mercy of the Oath Keepers, those in our military who have reaffirmed their oaths to defend the constitution. We must encourage everyone we know who is serving to join the Oath Keepers, especially the officers. We will need their support in the comming showdown against the banksters proxies, progressives, islamists, INTERPOL and the UN.

    Meanwhile, break out the spinning wheels and looms. The sheeple are about to be shorn.

    • 45caliber

      Clinton’s Goals 2000 Educational program had a number of bad things in it. But one that stood out to me what that 90% of the people were not to be taught how to read and write. The argument was that with radio and tv no one needed to know how to read or write to learn anything they needed to know.

      With the ability to control content and to eavesdrop on any such sources of information, this would mean that there would be no method of these people trying to organize and pass information that the government didn’t want you to know. If you know how to read and write, you can at least attempt to pass any information in a writen form. And internet requires the knowledge of how to read and write.

      Interesting that the former President of the US wanted to prevent people from being able to do that. It makes me wonder about the present administration too.

    • sylviam

      I remember the days when there was maybe *ONE* tv set in a community. *one* vehicle, in same community, now the QUESTION is, can we survive without the Internet? My answer is YES, because we did it in 1940. The year I was born. But remember well the *ration stamps* for food, sugar coffee,shoes and tires, just to mention a few things.
      But my Dad was gone to war my Mom worked for a living and our survivle and acomputer was NOT even thought of as far as I know about. We planted our food & grew what we eat *NO HANDOUTS * for us. I am still living in my world but do of course have *A COMPUTER* but there are a lot of things we can do to counter this EVIL that is upon us, *EDUCATE YOURSELVES,YOUR KIDS,AND YOUR NEIGHBORS* You will need to stick together & watch each others back, as a family. WE WILL OVERCOME. GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • DaveH

        Sylviam,
        If we had computers in the 30s and 40s, I doubt that FDR could have gotten away with his dirty deeds.

  • Joel

    I hate the way our government is trying to destroy the greatest country in the world. There not listening to the America people anymore their supposed to be public servants not our masters. I want to replace the who government with people who will follow and honor our united states constitution and spend wisely and listen to the American people. I believe America has to go back to way America was meant to be with putting God first and seeking his wisdon doing things his way wed be better off. Ill be made if they cut off our internet im made just hearing that their thinking it.

  • The Thistle Patch

    This is their vision of KILLING FREEDOM of SPEECH. WAKE UP AMERICA. Our Constitution and Bill of rights are under attack by our Government. The invasion just keeps continuing. We are in the downward spiral of loosing our freedoms and coming under a Socialists, Communist, Marxist, Fascist, or Totalitarianism type of Government.

  • http://sbcglobal.net Alan B

    Hello all!
    As far as the ability to shut down or not shut it down.
    Many of us forget that the internet can be selectively shut down.
    Denial of service can be ordered for specific people, ISP providers and specific discretionary areas. How many of you know, that all internet traffic virtually incoming / outgoing in most of the world is controlled by 2 Jewish owned companies? There already is a concern about their ease dropping on the net. Some needed internet users as stated by Polaris need not be shut out. The ISP provider can selectively shut people down as ordered by the FCC or government.

  • Richard Wittauer

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    First, I’m writing this as I see it in a neutral altitude. First I do feel that it is against the 1st amendment rights. But I also feel that national security could be at risk in use of the Internet, but I strong feel that we can improve any weakness in the system by improving government Internet security programing for the government usage of the net, which would solve all of the problems for everyone.
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    • dan az

      Richard Wittauer
      The government is only using the internet to monitor all of us.Do you think that they would not have their own satilites? this is just a ploy to take our 1st ammendment rights away and to divide us.With out our communication it would be easier for them to overrun us with out anyone knowing that it was going on.There are people out there that can shut down all of the sats from their homes and thats a fact,with out there communication they would be in the same boat as all of us. Gps would not work among other things.The problem that they have is that the ones that made all of this work are still out there and are as pissed off as we are.they are the ones that will slow them down!

  • http://yahoo Maria N.

    If they turn off the internet we all should march on Washington and suround it, and get rid off all the scum that thinks they can run our country and our lives like a dictators do. We need to take our country back!!! REMEMBER! THERE IS MORE OF US THEN THEM,and we pay their salaries, and therefore they work for us. I came to USA 35 years ago to escape russian domination in commust Poland. and now I see that obama is leading our nation in the same direction towards communism/socialism/dictatorship. Less freedom and more controll over peoples lives, and the way media is not reporting, what is going on in our government, remids me how the media in Poland didn’t report about important issues. Very similiar, the only difference is that media behind the iron curtain was told what to report, media in the USA is suppoed to be free, but it seems they too are bought and controled by the corrupt polititians , and threfore do not report the truth as a free press should. Looks to me like a media is beholden to progresive (witch is more like regresive) movement and traying to take our nation back to king george’s era. The narcisit,”the”anointed one and his cronies must be STOPED! OUR FREEDOM IS AT STAKE LETS GET MOVING THIS NOVEMBER. Maria N.

    • 45caliber

      You are a person to listen to and they don’t like that. After all, you have already seen the results of what they are now trying to do. Keep up your comments and don’t let them shut you up.

    • DaveH

      I agree with 45 on that one, Maria. It would be nice for you to stick around and tell the starry-eyed Liberals your real-life experiences with Socialism.

      • dan az

        Dave they would only say that it wasnt true show me the facts!

  • 45caliber

    Yes, it could be necessary in case of war to shut down Internet. After all, it wouldn’t be that hard for a spy to send and receive data over it to the enemy. He could do that at a library or simply use a laptop and drive around until he can find a place to use someone else’s internet connection.

    BUT … It could be also used to insure that certain pieces of information could be prevented from spreading. Such things as what was in Oblamacare prior to it being passed. (That was the reason that the bill wasn’t immediately passed; every time they tried someone would release a copy on internet and people read it.) With the switch, they could easily shut down internet on the illegal amnesty, for instance, until after they had passed it. Then they could say, “Well, we thought people were in favor of it and didn’t know you didn’t like it! But it’s too late now.”

    And I would rather risk a spy sending something back to our enemies than have the government use it to keep us from letting others know what is going on. And they would certainly do that!

    I can just hear the excuses now: “We heard that some terrorist was plotting to blow up the White House! We had to shut down internet to be able to find and stop him before he could get instructions from Iran. The fact that we also passed this bill then was only a coincident,”

    • dan az

      45
      With them intercepting their ip address then they would know who it was and could send false info to them.So it would be wise for them to leave all communication open in that case.

  • Bobber

    Much of the internet is already controlled by liberals – most of the opinion columns on AOL that “allow” comments regulary disallow conservative comments such as mine. Our local newsmanager (fka newspaper)paper in Belleville, IL. often disallows conservative comments about the local Demofascists when they get too truthful. This bill is trying to kill the little bit of free speech that still exists; therefore we must oppose the bill. But we must also eliminate the control that the liberals already have over the sources of information. We cannot allow the liberals to continue their propagation of dis-information. Liberals hate the free flow of truthful information; therefore we must demand that there be a free flow of information.

    • DaveH

      AOL has been bent to the left ever since I can remember.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bobber,
      I guess I am lucky! The newsherald in lake county Ohio still allows conservative letters to the editor and still reports more than the lib viewpoint. don’t know how much longer but for the moment it does!! I just can’t find much news from my town in it!!!

  • Marilyn

    These dumb azzes are going to have a fight on their hands. How ignorant is this proposal to ban free speech? What are they afraid of? Ignorance breeds fear!

  • http://none sean moor

    What makes you all think things will be all rosy in november? How do you know all this isnt planned? you think you gonna kick out the old congress and put in new people to run it,and all will be rosy? all these people in congress.the president.the police farce.they are ALL puppets on a string.They are ALL ruled,by a group of EVIL “people”. This evil has been ruling the universe since it brought it into excistance. Forget god.if there ever was a god “he” sure in the hell cant do anything.if he could,all this pain and sorrow would have never excisted in the first place. I believe we are on our own.and that saddens me. the little people are gonna have to turn things around.but how??? beats me?!?

    • mrdave98765

      Sean, There is a God and he is still in control. What is happening is not caused by Him! He told His people the Israelites again & again that if they didn’t obey Him there would be pain and suffering and it was their choice, not His. America is forgetting God and we’re paying for it. Prophecy in the Bible tells of the condition of the world in the last days and it seems today as though we will all stand before God very soon. I hope and pray that we will get to vote in November.

  • John Zee

    Americans are the most passive and reluctant freedom fighters in the world. They can’t stand up for themselves nor organize themselves into a cohesive force of opinion. They watched while Obama (an American?)rolled over American citizens with the financial bailout of the Wall Street establisment? You remember? Americans citizens were asking for scalps, Obama gave Wall Street keys to the treasury and Wall Street walked away scot-free. Today, those same elitist are asking you to give up your right to freedom of communication with fellow citizens and the rest of the world, and of course you’ll LET IT HAPPEN. YOU ARE A PASSIVE BUNCH OF WIMPS. ADMIT IT,….NEXT?

  • http://www.thetitustouch.com William

    I like the bumper sticker I saw the other day “Bullets or Ballots, Get the Bastards Out of Office” But FEMA has it’s gas chambers ready to go when Obama declares Marshall Law to keep from being voted out of office.

  • Sam

    Our elected leaders need to stay out of our personal corresponding with friends, family, etc., etc.. This is not a socialist or communist county (YET)- So we need to tell the politicians to keep their hands off of our computers and our access to them…..

    • 45caliber

      Just to make you happy, Sam, they already look. Clinton got a bill passed called “the Privacy Improvement Act.” It mandated that every computer, fax machine, and telephone have a chip added that recorded everything sent over it. Have you ever heard your phone just barely beep and then quit? That was their call. Now they have the bugs worked out so you don’t hear it.

      They call your house and copy everything from your equipment. All emails sent, all faxes sent, all telephone calls made. Then a computer looks at the data and searches it for certain code words. If one is detected, the computer will flag the message and a human will then look it over. After a few days the non-flagged messages will be erased. This is how they search for terrorist contacts and anything else they want.

      The code words can be changed at will. However, since there are so many messages transmitted every day, they seldom have very many since it would tie up too many listeners.

      I’ve verified this through my company’s IT group. They admit that when they don’t have much to do they send messages to each other using the code words as in “This is NOT a b**b threat!” They do it just to give the listeners something to listen or read.

      Now aren’t you happy with our government??

      • Dave

        All touch tone phones have circuitry built in that allow the mike to be turned on without the phone even ringing. It is mandated by law that they are made that way. A built in wire tap in every home!

        However it is easy to get around, just pick up an old rotery dial phone at a garage sale and use that.

  • Janice

    That’s not fair!!! First I hear that the government’s trying to control where I go to school and what I can major in, next it’s I can’t speak up!!! THAT’S BULL!!!!!!!! I’m beginning to hate this government more and more… How are high schools gonna run when all of the grades and everything is electronic now? What if you’re doing an online class? You gonna control that too?!?! People have no respect anymore.. I have the right to speak my own mind AND go to school where I please!!! You take that away and you have KILLED America!!!!

    • 45caliber

      Janice:

      The ultimate goal of government education is for all students to be in a classroom studying a class online. The class data will come from a Washington computer. The teacher will be more a room monitor to make sure everyone stays focused on the computer. You also are tested by the computer.

      Further, you will have your career selected for you by the computer as you progress through school. The original idea was that 90% of the students would go to some trade school instead of the 7th grade. At graduation from high school, the computer would again select who would go to college and who would become things like secretaries, etc. from the rest. Those going to college would also have their career decided then. You would study whatever courses the computer had selected for you based on what your career would be.

      The top students would, of course, be the future leaders of the country/world. But somehow I suspect that most of them would – surprise! – be the sons and daughters of existing leaders.

      This was all spelled out in Clinton’s Goals 2000 education program that luckily never was put into affect – at least here in Texas.

      • Janice

        No, i’m talking about the bill that’s trying to get passes about non-government funded colleges. I go to a private college and if that bill passes, i won’t be able to get gov. funded loans and grants.

        • Centerist

          Are you serious? Where did you come up with that? Try fact checking first, then respond.

          • DaveH

            Do you know that for a fact, Centerist? Why are you picking on her? You really sound more Liberal in your demeanor than Centrist (can’t even spell your own name?).

          • Claire

            DaveH– If someone attends a private college, don’t they have to pay most of their own way? Seems like that is the way it used to be? Something does not sound right, it should be checked out further and in great detail.

        • Paul R

          Just become an illegal or a foriegn student and the American tax dollar will pay for everything!!!

        • DaveH

          Janice,
          Do you really want to be beholden to them?

  • Fed up Texan

    Can we have a kill switch for all the politicians in D.C.?

    • 45caliber

      Yes. That’s call “election results” coming up in November.

    • Centerist

      We need a KILL switch for all the conspiracy theorist here.

      • Paul R

        What part of the gov. are you from?

        • dan az

          centerist
          I argree poooof your gone!

      • Meteorlady

        Is Soros paying you too?

  • Shepsail

    No need for this Bill. The Chinese/Russians/Iranians are all capable of crashing major parts of the internet along with much of our connected infrastucture any time they want. The price we pay for being an open society.

  • Centerist

    What bill? Bob Livingston keeps bringing it up but I can’t seem to find it. Does it involve the “Aliens” that visit Bob at night and do those probe thingama-bobs?

    • Paul R

      What article did you just read? (short-term memory loss)I hear thats a side effect of alien visits!!!

      • Centerist

        Again…..What bill? Show me where to find it. Paul I know you must find some sort of comfort being a follower but I like to get the facts. WHAT BILL?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          centerist,
          It is senate bill s773 sponsored by Jay Rockefeller D W.VA.

    • DaveH

      I don’t care if they have a ‘kill switch’ (euphemism) or not. I don’t want the Federal Government messing with the Internet. It has been around for 20 years now and we have gotten along just fine.
      http://www.prisonplanet.com/senate-to-sneak-through-internet-kill-switch-bill.html

      • Centerist

        Sorry, no bill there.

      • DaveH

        The bill was the Cybersecurity Enhancement Act. It was passed by the House on February 4, 2010 by 422 votes to 5. It was called H.R.4061 and is now being kicked around the Senate. It is now called “Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010″, S.3480.
        Go to this page, then type ‘S.3480.IS’ in the ‘Search Thomas by number’ field:
        http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/g_three_sections_with_teasers/legislative_home.htm

        • Centerist

          Dave, been there, done that….No “Kill Switch”. I’m looking for Bob’s “KILL SWITCH” not this.

          • DaveH

            Try section 249. There is no ‘kill switch’. I told you it is an euphemism. Like there are no ‘death panels’, just people who will decide if you get life-saving treatment or not.

          • Centerist

            Dave, thanks much. I’m noticing Bob likes to “push the limits”. I don’t see this as an issue but more a sign of the time. In reality I see little ability for Government to control the internet without a HUGE dose of fear mongering.

        • dan az

          Dave just like I said show them the facts and they still dont believe you.Amazing they also disapear.

          • Centerist

            dan az, you’re somehow misguided. Dave was great, no extremes, straight forward links to factual material. I appreciated and got to learn from the links. I wish all the views here could follow the example.

  • pray for the truth tellers

    I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE TREASON TRIALS TO BEGIN !!!!!!!

    • Centerist

      Go to the top of the page, READ FIRST, then write. Simple

  • Claire

    The internet is great for the truth–if some of it IS the truth. There are decent sites and there are the “over the top” sites. Regarding homeland security–are they worried that someone with “inside” information will post it on the internet? But then again, the government tells the whole world what they are going to do in case of a disaster or what they will/are doing in case we are attacked from a foreign country. China was able to steal information from us anyway, so it would be useless. Yes, the internet is freedom of speech. We have the right to post on the blogs, etc. I say leave it alone.
    At this moment Craigslist is in hot water for underage girls being advertised for sex, sold as sex slaves, etc. This is serious stuff. Backpage is another site that is doing the same thing. This type of filth should not be allowed on the internet.

    • Centerist

      I’m not willing to say that anything should not be allowed on the internet. I don’t like it, but I do like that it is helping law enforcement catch the criminals you speak of. It’s dilemma.

    • Claire

      Perhaps people would feel differently if their daughter/son or granddaughter/grandson became involved in Craigslist and Backpage. It can happen to anyone. Vigilence is the key concerning everything in this world.

      • Centerist

        They probably would.

    • Meteorlady

      So the answer to Craig’s List is to take the ads away? What then happens, they go underground. At least law enforcement, if they would at least do their job, had a means to find and prosecute these people but using Craig’s list – that was the good side of freedom.

      Catch 22 I guess.

  • pray for the truth tellers

    For some really good info try http://www.barefootsworld.net
    And to Centerist, did you think I meant that the people who write here are traitors? They definitely are NOT. Lots of informed patriots here.

    • dan az

      pray for the truth tellers
      this is one of the best sites that I have ever seen thanks Its exactly what Ive been looking for!

  • Crying Teeth

    To the point. Control the Internet and you control the banking, control the banking, and you control the populous. That is where the banks are headed with their government regulators, that is where the Internet is headed with the US government. Your personal ISP number will be required of you to “buy and sell.” Sound like prophecy fulfilling? Yes it does. We are in the phase of the 7th trumpet of Revelation called “time no more.” IT IS THE END. [Nature alone testifies to this truth!] These things surprise no Bible believer. We will surely be instructed to and by the banks when and how all this will work. All will come as the sheeple have been led to do, save those who understand that to be marked by any government, it to sell your soul as a slave to other than the ETERNAL CREATOR, our Saviour Jesus Christ. Beyond, thing is, will be when “there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time…” It will be when “Michael shall stand up”. Daniel 12:1. Will you take the mark of the beast? Scoffing now, mocking now, will lead you to it then. Faith is the victory, not fighting the governments of the earth. This is all about personal liberty. I believe the only true hue of it is through Christ. “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” 2 Corinthians 3:17.

    • Centerist

      And my laptop starts up when it recognizes my thumb print….what next, retina scanning. OMG do I have the mark. I sold something on Craig’s List and before I did they MADE me sign up. Is it too late? I do automatic banking on my computer. Help, my government is trying to take my soul.

      • dan az

        centeris it
        I know you didnt bother to look at this site that was given to you as to help you with the truth so I say here it is again and this time spend a little time there and try to open you mind to the history and truth that is in there.Then come back and make these uninformed remarks and see how stupid you really look to us all!
        http://www.barefootsworld.net

        • Centerist

          You probably should have read my last response.

          • Crying Teeth

            The thing to do is to remember WELL that you will NOT TAKE a physical MARK in your body. That is the literal “mark of the beast”. The Internet is LEADING to the taking of it. Thus, it is important to leave a space of departure [privacy, liberty] between your monetary mind [trust God] and technology [askew it], for it is the technology that is LEADING to the taking of the literal Mark. The Internet will be the TOOL of choice as it connects ALL NATIONS, KINDREDS, and PEOPLES. One has not taken the actual “mark of the beast” if one has not the mark IN THE FLESH. Some DO have this already in the spiritual sense because they have the attitude or mindset to take the MARK [on the other hand, some have it LITERALLY in this aspect; it is an invisible injected thing; "the RFID," "Digital Angel," a few names the Techies give it.] But the most serious connection with the Internet and the Mark is what folks DON’T SEE “by faith.” The issue will revolve around a deeply religious and spiritual issue: the 4th commandment 7th day Sabbath of the Eternal Creator versus the false commandment of the SUNDAY commandment keepers. [The SUN day is a pagan day of worship in origin, and is central to the 666 RC "beast" cult system. Read The Vatican Millions, by Avro Manhattan, Romanism and the Reformation, by H.G. Guiness, The Great Controversy, by Ellen G. White, and there are others.] So, when “the powers that be” {who are led by the RC’s & Fallen Protestants & NWO Secret Society Group} get up a LAW enforcing SUNDAY keeping, it will be in connection with this Laser Tattoo “banking” thing. The SHOAH will return. We’re talking about a moment when “the whole world” will be tested at the level of the pocket book AND the MORAL CODE—the 10 commandments as they were “written in stone.” GOD HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE MOSES DAY, and multitudes have a false Jesus before them. But that will be part of the test. Few folks will see this, for these are things prophecied of “the end” of this world. The lack of grace in nature tells us that we are there; in fact, most people, without coming out and saying it, KNOW IT, that is, that IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD. During at least the 120 years of Noah, while he built the boat, and during the flood time while on the boat, they had fiber optic cable for communications. In our LAST DAYS, for more than 12 years, we have had parallel to Noah. THE INTERNET is the last method of mass communication permitted by God, save for the angels of heaven. It will be cut off one day, question is how soon? The ETERNAL CREATOR is in control of all things, if only by letting go of a cursed humanity for it’s sinfulness. THE INTERNET HAS TRUTH WITHIN IT’S FIBER OPTICS, but one day soon, it will all be “a form.” That day is near. Those who search these things out will find them to be true, for the JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH.

  • http://gmail i41

    Why would anyone expect less from these liberal jackwagons? Hopefully their votersd will remember what a bunch of flaky morons the idoits were for trying to speed up he marxist agenda. Everytime something is pushed as a needed fast action bill, heads up everyone. Just like the famous stimulas bill, for keeping unemployment down. If it comes out of a rinos or a socialist mouth, it is b–l s–t. Of course the purple lipped marxist muslim moron never has told the truth, because he is a muslim and amarxist. They sit at the apex of the dung heap of the democrat party.

    • Centerist

      Bush (a Republican) started the bailout. Obama is just following his righteous path.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        And you are following in the footsteps of every ignorant progressive that ever darkened this hallowed country!! GOD BLESS AMERICA…..AGAIN!!!!

      • Meteorlady

        Centrist:
        A brief history lesson:
        1977: Jimmy Carter (D) signs the Community Reinvestment Act, guaranteeing homes loans to low-income families.
        1999: Bill Clinton (D) puts the CRA on steroids by pushing Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac to increase the number of sub-prime loans (You know, EVERYONE should own a home!)
        Sept. 1999: New York Times publishes an article “Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending” which warned of the coming crisis due to lax lending policies of the Clinton (D) administration.
        2003: White House calls Fannie and Freddie a ‘systemic risk” Bush administration pushes Congress to enact new regulations.
        2003: Barney Frank (D-CN) says F&F are ‘not in a crisis” and bashes Republicans for crying wolf and calls F&F “Financially Sound” Dems block Republican sponsored regulation legislation.
        2005: Fed Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan voices warning over F&F accounting “We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk”
        2005: Sen Charles Schumer (D-NY) says “I think F & F over the years have done an incredibly good job and are an intrinsic part of making America the best-housed people in the world”
        2006 Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) again calls for reform of the regulatory structure that governs F&F
        2006: Dems again block reform legislation
        2008: Housing market collapses: Democrats blame the Republicans!
        Additional info: Jimmy Carter (Nobel Peace Prize winner) gave North Korea nuclear technology. Bill Clinton gave Red China our computer technology.
        A very unqualified one term senator from Chicago named Barack Obama with the help of big oil companies, foreign donations, George Soros and a “Chinese style censored USA media” pulls off the biggest mass deception in the history of the USA to be come the first black president ever, we made history the world was pleased to see us in this weakened state, we got the president the world wanted not the president we truly wanted or deserved, just talk to people on the street to confirm it, don’t take my word for it or the medias word for it.
        Do the words “You reap what you sow” mean anything to you?

  • William

    Maybe this is the surprise that was supposed to get the Democrat base all excited.

  • Fr. Jim Rosselli

    This strikes directly at Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Assembly. I can not imagine it surviving a court challenge
    anywhere buyt in the Ninth Circuit, and maybe not even there! The
    time is now, to plan such a challenge.

  • The Major

    Many times when a disaster hits the USA or elsewhere in the world,such
    as a Quake,Tsunami,Hurricane,etc,,,the ONLY way to communicate is via
    radio,,HAM’s ShortWave,even C.B. & SSB’s. Here,if our extensive cell-
    phone & LL telephones are knocked out,we have radios. Yet, in many places, the Internet will still be up & running. The PRO-Left know this, so they want to CONTROL it so “We The People” cannot. In my opinion, it is all part of their plan to “Rule” not govern,as they were elected to do.REMEMBER,,they think we are STUPID.!!!
    Picture a beautiful,sleek,Thoroughbred horse,,got it? OK,,now picture an ugly, smelly,ornery,nasty,& ill suited for it’s task,& OVERPRICED
    Double-humped CAMEL.,,,,got it? The CAMEL is the one designed by a
    PRO-Left Progressive Congressional Committee.
    They will “Declare” a national emergency a month or two BEFORE Election Day,,,just so they can control the I/net until AFTER the Election. Then the RINO’s & DINO’s who voted for this bill will blame it on the Chinese,& say that they caused us to lose our 1st Am.Rights.

  • Viktor Leben

    Unbelievable ! Republicans are sponsoring this bill !

    The more I read about the Republicans, the more I doubt they will take control in November. Telling the unemployed to starve ! Sponsoring the Internet Kill Switch bill ! Supporting illegal immigration ! What the hell is wrong with them ?

    Will we ever get rid of this crazy Congress ????

    • a progressive nightmare

      Viktor, The GOP is currently in the process of cleansing itself through the grass roots movement of the TP. Give it time, all the RHINO’s will be replaced, sooner or later. This mess didn’t happen over night and it won’t be fixed overnight. The progressive dems are taking care of themselves through foolish bills, like the topic of this discussion and oblamacare.

    • 45caliber

      Viktor:
      The Republicans sponsoring this bill are as close to being Democrats as they come. Both vote Democrat most of the time despite their supposed party.

    • Conservatives United

      Unbelievable ! Republicans are sponsoring this bill !

      No these (Collins and Snowe) are RINO REPUKE-A-CRAPS, just like their DEAMON-CRAP partners in CRIME.

    • Conservatives United

      I said after the 2006 elections that if we gave the Deamon-craps, including Queen Pelosi and Horsethief Harry enough rope, that they would hang themselves with out our help. They are doing and excellent job of tightening the noose around their necks. Now with the help of the American people, their partners in crime (All of the Rino Repuke-a-craps), are joining their buddies accross the aisle. Providing the Illegal In The White House and his cast of Chicago Style THUGS, do not shut down the elections, we can began the process of cleansing the govenment of as many of these CRIMMINALS as we can and as fast as we can, and bring this nation back to constitutional government. If this does not work then we will have no choice but to fight another Revolution.

  • CJM

    Those congressional members supporting this unworthy bill should reregister as communists–they fit right into the pattern. What is surprising is that some states continue to vote these idiots back into office (Charlie Rangle, for one).

    • Conservatives United

      Juan McLame is another that comes to mind. What are the people in AZ thinking??????????

  • Betty

    There are so many bills pending in the House and the Senate that we do not even hear of until they are passed. one of them was buried in a Homeland Security Bill…I will paste the short copy here in a minute. That bill was about 350 pages long. Most of our elected officials do not even read those bills. They simply have interns read them and write a short synopsis..they use that to vote . Shameful. certainly not what they are being paid to do. Please read this bill carefully . See what the implications are. This Administration is taking us down the Garden Path toward One Wold government.

    Senate bill on homegrown food equals homegrown tyranny is: S.510

    * August 14th, 2010 4:51 pm ET

    The Obama regime and Democrats in Congress want to prevent citizens from growing, sharing, trading, or selling homegrown food. Senate bill S510 would make such activity illegal. Such legislation amounts to homegrown tyranny, yet another example of how this government has declared war on the citizens.

    Under the guise of ‘food safety’ the bill contains the following ominous provisions, as cited by The World’s Prophecy:

    1. All U.S. food and U.S. farms are placed under the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Defense in the event of contamination or some vague. undefined ‘national emergency.’

    2. U.S. sovereignty over food and farms would end, placing them under the international oversight of the WTO.

    3. Under Maritime Law the government would be given the power to define any sale of food between individuals or the introduction of food into national commerce as ‘smuggling into the United States.’

    4. A global system of control over food would be imposed on the United States under the United Nations, the World Health Organization, the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization, and the World Trade Organization.

    5. The right of citizens to purchase, own, store, and clean seed would be removed and placed into the hands of large international corporations such as Monsanto.

    6. An animal traceability program would be implemented under international control, thus threatening small U.S. farmers and ranchers who raise animals.

    7. All local food production would be placed under the control of HACCP, which will in effect push small farmers out of business and give large corporations total control over the food supply.

    8. The American economy would be further dismantled by the deconstruction of the agriculture and food industry, taking this vital sector of the economy out of the hands of the United States and placing it in international hands.

    9. The bill gives government the right to mandate the use of antibiotics, hormones, pesticides, and slaughterhouse waste.

    10. ‘Food crimes’ would be a new category of criminal activity, increasing the power of the police state, and removing Constitutional protections of citizens who are thusly charged, placing them totally at the mercy of ‘large corporate tribunals’ which will be granted unlimited power to levy penalties–and outside the purview of U.S. judicial review.

    In summary, Dr. Shiv Chopra, a Canadian Health whistleblower, said the following about this proposed law:

    “If accepted [S 510] would preclude the public’s right to grow, own, trade, transport, share, feed and eat each and every food that nature makes. It will become the most offensive authority against the cultivation, trade and consumption of food and agricultural products of one’s choice. It will be unconstitutional and contrary to natural law or, if you like, the will of God.”

    If astute citizens wish to know beyond all doubt the end-game of the Obama Administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress, this bill perfectly encapsulates the mindset–ultimate government control, the removal of rights, and a direct attack on the liberties of the individual.

    please visit this website and read some of the other bills this arrogant illegal muslim person in the White House and his buddies are passing . The entire Constitution and all it’s amendments are there. patriotnews1.com.
    While you are there…click on Terrorist news. Then click on the Terrorist in the White House…read the speech he made in Cairo in 2009.
    I hope you all know about the 29 page report Obama had sent to the UN complaining about human rights abuse by the state of Arizonia. Never before in history has such a shameful thing been done. The sheer audacity of him…and please consider that the countries who will be judging arizonia and making recommendations include Cuba, China, Libya, Iran and others . We all know how they are concerned with human rights abuse….NOT
    There are so many other illegal things they are doing it scares me half to death.
    I am a 74 year old registered Democrat and I did NOT vote for Obama. He has done so many things already that I consider treasonous. He has broken at least 14 major federal laws. It is past time we take our country back. Impeach obama, get rid of all rotten politicians including both parties.
    The constitution says that the elected officials work for us. We do not work for them. They are supposed to do what we send them to do..not their own agenda/

    • Meteorlady

      Oh just fine – we do that in our neighborhood because we have no trust that the produce coming from third world hell holes are good for us. Nor is the genetically engineered crap that we get from industrial corporate farms. Do you see anything in most grocery stores that states that produce is genetically engineered or for that matter what country it comes from?

      I was amazed at the taste of my heritage tomatoes and the task of home grown produce without pesticides and bad fertilization.

  • Meteorlady

    If this goes through so much for freedom of speech. China does this because they can censor the internet. Google goes along with it for money so what’s to say that Google, Yahoo, and all the rest will defend their rights? Not if it means a loss of revenue.

    Maybe we all need to stock up on short wave radios huh?

  • http://www.patriotnews1.com Terry Herbert

    What the hell happened? 545 people vs 300 million people!!!

    This is about as clear and easy to understand as it can be – read it!! The article below is completely neutral, …not anti republican or democrat.

    Charlie Reese, a retired reporter for the Orlando Sentinal has hit the nail directly on the head, defining clearly who it is that in the final analysis must assume responsibility for the judgements made that impact each one of us every day.

    It’s a short but good read. Worth the time. Worth remembering!

    545 vs. 300,000,000

    EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE. READ IT AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICAL DEBACLE.

    Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

    545 PEOPLE–By Charlie Reese

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them..

    Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

    Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does.

    You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don’t write the tax code, Congress does.

    You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.

    You and I don’t control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits….. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

    The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? Nancy Pelosi. She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts — of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can’t think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red ..

    If the Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it’s because they want them in IRAQ

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it’s because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation,” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

    They, and they alone, have the power..

    They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.

    Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees..

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel Newspaper.

    What you do with this article now that you have read it……… Is up to you.
    This might be funny if it weren’t so darned true. Be sure to read all the way to the end:
    Tax his land,
    Tax his bed,
    Tax the table,
    At which he’s fed.

    Tax his tractor,
    Tax his mule,
    Teach him taxes
    Are the rule.

    Tax his work,
    Tax his pay,
    He works for peanuts
    Anyway!

    Tax his cow,
    Tax his goat,
    Tax his pants,
    Tax his coat.

    Tax his ties,
    Tax his shirt,
    Tax his work,
    Tax his dirt.

    Tax his tobacco,
    Tax his drink,
    Tax him if he
    Tries to think..

    Tax his cigars,
    Tax his beers,
    If he cries
    Tax his tears.

    Tax all he has
    Then let him know
    That you won’t be done
    Till he has no dough.

    When he screams and hollers;
    Then tax him some more,
    Tax him till
    He’s good and sore.
    Then tax his coffin,
    Tax his grave,
    Tax the sod in
    Which he’s laid…

    Put these words
    Upon his tomb,
    Taxes drove me
    to my doom…’

    When he’s gone,
    Do not relax,
    Its time to apply

    The inheritance tax..
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax
    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

    What in the hell happened? Can you spell ‘politicians?’

    I hope this goes around THE USA at least 100 times!!! YOU can help it get there!!!
    GO AHEAD – - – BE AN AMERICAN!!!

    • BrotherPatriot

      Excellent work, Terry and so very true…with one addition…Congress works for the NWO and all their illegal organizations…Bilberberg’s, etc.

      • Centerist

        Teach-em all a lesson, DON’T VOTE.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          yeah, you as a progressive would just love that, wouldn’t you??

          • Centerist

            In a word, YES

  • Conservatives United

    All of them are OUR EMPLOYEES, not the other way around as most of them now think. WE NEED TO GIVE THEM A REMINDER, BY THROWING ALL OF THE SCUMBAGS OUT ON THEIR A$$ES, AND ASSERTING WHO IS THE BOSS.

    • Centerist

      If you had your way we would be in a depression today with you remarking to the bread lines “THEY DESERVE IT”.

  • Au Contraire

    The internet is the only thing keeping people and their pitchforks
    off of the streets not just in America but everywhere where those serpents in suits work to destroy freedom and humanity’s God given rights to live in peace, freedom and prosperity. Viva the internet Viva Freedom, Viva the right to Life!!!!

  • Boo Ewald Taylor

    omg

  • Lost Dog

    DaveH must be incarcerated. Way more important than closing down the internet. Who would desire to do that anyway. Is not the intenet the propogandist’s dream. Did not O’Bama, our Irishman President, use the intenet to great advantage. The masses must be controlled. Caesar knew so, so did Napolean and Tito. Better to control with propoganda than violence.

    You chickens talk of violent revolution while you waddle to your mail box to get your government entitlement check. You have been bought and paid off. You will not risk loss of job, home, life, and liberty for some pipe dream revolution. By the way, loss of liberty is not some restriction whereby you cannot call flip off another driver on the commute home from work. Loss of liberty is being thrown in jail where the whole place smells, the other citizens are unsympathetic, the food is foul, the staff are abusive, and you are out numbered and subject to violent correction of your ways.

    Your talk is vaporous. Your chances of actual action are as low as a flight to Mars on the back of a goose.

    • Centerist

      Terry Herbert, time for you to step in again and hijack the thread.

  • http://DeafRepublic johnny

    ok american let roll rock

  • http://DeafRepublic johnny

    DONT TREAD ON MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

  • Hauri

    But this bill is very important-and i know that most of you people are thinking that the “kill switch bill” will make the government able to turn off the internet and stop flow of info
    But open your eyes!
    That is almost the same thing the Anti-federalists were saying about the men writing the constitution- that they wanted power and to damn the common folk and just serve their own purposes, and look where that simple document got us…
    You’re all acting paranoid about something that doesn’t even exist- there is no kill switch for the internet, if anything, it is limiting the president’s power
    This is taken from the senate committee on homeland security and governmental affairs (http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNews&ContentRecord_id=66c23959-5056-8059-7686-43a8307e966c)
    “Section 706 of the Communications Act of 1934 provides nearly unchecked authority to the President to “cause the closing of any facility or station for wire communication” and “authorize the use of control of any such facility or station” by the Federal government. Exercise of the authority requires no advance notification to Congress and can be authorized if the President proclaims that “a state or threat of war” exists. The authority can be exercised for up to six months after the “state or threat of war” has expired.”
    This is actually limiting the presidents power, not augmenting it- sorry to say it but you guys have been barking up the wrong tree

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