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Immigration Reform Advocates Allege Jobs Bill Will Allow Employers To Hire Illegal Aliens

March 2, 2010 by  

Immigration reform advocates allege jobs bill will allow employers to hire illegal aliens As the $15 billion jobs bill advanced through Congress last week, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said the measure included no verification mechanism to ensure that newly created jobs will be filled by legal U.S. workers.

FAIR also alleges that the bill, which was authored by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), does not prevent employers from claiming tax credits and exemptions if the workers they hire are illegal aliens.

"It is unconscionable that while some 25 million Americans are unemployed or relegated to part-time work, the Senate is refusing to include protections that would guarantee that newly-created jobs are filled by Americans who desperately need them," said Dan Stein, president of FAIR.

He accused Reid of "consistently" blocking any efforts to prevent businesses that receive government contracts or tax benefits from hiring illegal immigrants.

The bill is a package of tax credits and exemptions for employers who create new jobs. On Feb. 23, five Republicans, including the newly elected Senator Scott Brown (R-Mass.), joined 57 Democrats in breaking the Republican filibuster, opening the way to the final vote.
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  • Phil

    Scott Brown cast his vote for jobs… Good job…

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      I agree, maybe your job will be the next to be taken by an illegal and then we won’t have to put up with you anymore!!!!

  • Raggs

    Reid is trying to gain votes from the illegals, That is what this is about.

  • http://SynergeticsHealth.com Michelle Johnson

    Of course Reid is after illegal votes. He is in big trouble in Nevada, and we are FULL OF ILLEGALS. 3 of my kids are out of work, but there are plenty of illegals in Mcdonalds and every other fast food and restaurant (not to mention other service industries) in town. They seem to be doing just fine and will not suffer from all the new tax burdens placed upon the rest of us by all the jobs killing garbage coming from Washington. If Harry Reid can get support from the population he hopes we all become (subservient and dependent upon gov’t) he will be the happiest guy in the world. It is his only chance of surviving the showdown in Nov. 2010. HOWEVER…and this is probably the only good thing about the bill. Washington screws up everything it touches. It probably won’t produce one job because employers are not that stupid…they know that a little tax credit will not support long term hiring in this economy.

    • http://None Richard Fletcher

      I agree with Michelle Johnson and Raggs on this issue

  • Sonny M

    This bill should have exempted illegal aliens from taking American citizens jobs. The U.S. spends $90 billion dollars per year on illegal aliens already. If Congress were concerned about jobs for Americans they would do their job and deport the 12 or more million illegal aliens that are now here and their anchor babies, this would create more jobs for Americans and save billions of dollars in taxpayers money.

    • Vincent

      You are so right. Americans need the jobs the Illegal Aliens are taking and the worst part is that the current administration has decided not to enforce the laws agains the business’s that hire them. I am very disappointed in my country because my children can not find jobs just because they are not bilingual. We waste money in every level of our society due to illegal immigration and our embracing the spanish language. I cannot quote how much we spend on providing documents and services in spanish but I imagine it is a lot of money. We also provide bilingual education when we should be demanding that any immigrant illegal or otherwise learn english. This is an uphill battle that I am afraid to admit that I am sure we will not win.

  • ALAN BELL

    TO VOTE FOR JOBS IS A GOOD THING , WE NEED THEM IN THE WORST WAY .
    BUT TO DO NOTHING TO PROTECT THOSE JOBS FOR LEGAL US WORKERS IS WRONG .

  • Warrior

    The bill mostly covers added funding for existing gov programs. Congress tries to push through another unfunded stimulis and Bunning says hold on, how are we going to pay for this? Another prime example of what’s wrong with our leadership.

  • Phil

    Illegals ?,.. Why didn’t the republicans do something about illegals when they had the whitehouse for 8 years and 6 years in congress?.. This is just more whining and crying from Republicans that shoved the problem down the Road to the democrats then think they have the answers.. Just about every issue President Obama has to deal with are issues that Republicans neglected .. As usual…

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      I can say the same thing to you. Why didn’t Clintoon, with 8 years in as president do something about the illegals in this country? Because he was too busy chasing Monica around the desk!!!!

    • not impressed

      Phil,
      Don’t let your kool-aid run low!

    • DeeCee

      Phil, you are really full of it!

  • Hey

    Phil, go smoke some more.

    • Raggs

      Amen!!! Hey…

  • Phil

    Lol.. Hey… That’s the typical responce from the right…too much fact in my post for you to comprehend?

    • john

      Phil I would not call your post a presentation of facts merely a partial representation. Joe H is right Clinton did nothing about it either. And the problem would have been easier to deal with then.

      • Phil

        John…Clinton was president 3 administrations ago….so if your going to whine and complain about illegals don’t you think Bushs administration should have addressed the problem insteading of passing it on ?.. Like almost everyother issue president Obama faces… So far his 1st year has been trying to fix the economic disaster left by the republicans…

        • Joe H.

          phil,
          And Clintoon shouldn’t have passed it on to the next term either. Bush isn’t president either so it still is the fault of the present pres and he hasn’t done crap!!!!!

  • Phil

    Warrior… I’d rather the unemployed in this country get some relief instead of wallstreet….I’m wondering where Bunnings concern was when Wallstreet was getting bailedout while President Bush was in office….I’m listening to Bunning right now speaking to congress and I’m again wondering why he wasn’t concerned about borrowing from China while Bush was funding his personal war in Iraq.. It just makes a rational person wonder if it’s just politics..again..

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      Then you are also listening to the stupidity of Reid as I am!!! How the people ever let him get elected I will never understand!!!

    • Warrior

      Phil,

      Congress passes a pay/go bill two weeks ago that means that if you want new spending you have to find the funding for it. A week goes by and already they break their own rules. It has nothing to do with bush, clinton, george washington et,al or the unemployed. It is about fiscal responsibilty which there isn’t any.

      • Joe H.

        Warrior,
        amen brother! the problem with the dems is someone called their bluff and demanded they do what they say for a change. The unemployed were not hurt by this stand in the sand as he capitulated today and the benefits will be retroactive!!! It DOES go to show that the dems will say one thing and do another just to try to look rightous but this time it FAILED!!!!!

  • DiverDan

    First of all we do NOT need more illegals, and we sure do not need them to take jobs needed by Americans
    This will only invite MORe illegals to come here. I have Run a business in Texas, and most of the applicants were illegal. Go across this country, and see how many there actually are, from California, all across the southern states, even up into MAss & New England, even right in DC itself. This is a FACT.

    We need to stop the flow from all of Central America and other countries of illegals. We first pay their medical bills to have babies here, then we spend on educating the babies for 12 years each, along with all their medical bills for for most of their life, this is part of why we are going broke.
    I know former INS agents that were told to let them in by congress, or we would pay $10.00 for a head of lettuce. BULL.
    I am not going to blame any party, BUT STOP ILLEGALS NOW!!! Eliminate that drain on our economy, most of these people send a good portion of their money back to their homeland, so it does not really help our economy, only their homeland.
    How many illegals do we have….we will never know as they hide at census time.

    • Vincent

      This administration actually wants to count the illegals because it increases their constituency. You are right that both parties are guilty of allowing the flow of illegals into our country, it is up to us to let them know that it is vital they stop the flow of illegals into our country. I am a hispanic who’s heritage goes back to the spaniards entering the new world via the Gulf of Mexico through Texas into Colorado. My family experienced severe discrimination so they elected not to teach us spanish. I have no regrets and am a devoted patriot of the USA. My family and I will stand up and fight for our country anywhere anytime, my own child has done a tour of Afghanistan and I have nephews who have done tours in Iraq. We are also affected by the inflow of illegal Mexican immigrants. There are several generations of people like me in the USA who love this country and are treated as if we are illegals by the Americans and like second class citizens by the illegals. We are Americans in every way and will defend the American way to our death.

      • Joe H.

        Vincent,
        God Bless you and yours!!

  • Truth

    FAIR is a racist org, enough said. Now to REAL FACTS.

    US economy largely unaffected by illegal immigration

    Tucson, Arizona | Published: 12.03.2009

    WASHINGTON — A study released Wednesday concludes that illegal-immigrant workers do not drain jobs or tax dollars and have a neutral impact on the U.S. economy.
    Because illegal immigrants occupy a small share of the work force — about 5 percent — and work low-skilled jobs at lower wages than other workers, their overall influence on the economy is trivial, according to the report, sponsored by the Migration Policy Institute, a pro-immigration think tank in Washington.
    “The fate of the U.S. economy does not rest on what we do on illegal immigration,” said Gordon H. Hanson, author of the report and economics professor at the University of California-San Diego.
    Illegal immigrants contribute a tiny 0.03 percent of the U.S. gross domestic product, with that gain going to employers who save money on cheap labor, the report says, while their cost to the economy is 0.10 percent of GDP, which mainly comes from public education and publicly funded emergency health care.
    The net impact at minus 0.07 percent of GDP means that illegal immigrants have an essentially neutral effect on the economy, Hanson said.
    The report does not factor in the spending or entrepreneurship that illegal immigrants contribute to the economy, said Marc Rosenblum, senior policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute.
    Where illegal immigrants do have a substantial impact, Hanson added, is in specific labor-intensive and low-skilled industries such as agriculture, construction, hospitality and cleaning services, where the share of native-born workers has dropped precipitously.
    Because the U.S. has dramatically raised the education level of its adult population in the last 50 years — going from about 50 percent of all working-age adults without a high school diploma in 1960 to just 8 percent today — the native-born, low-skilled work force has shrunk, while employers continue to require low-skilled workers.
    This leaves room for illegal immigrants to take such jobs at a low cost, the report says.
    Illegal immigrants now account for 20 percent of working-age adults in the U.S. who don’t have a high school degree.
    While the influx of illegal immigrants is one of the factors keeping low-skilled wages stagnant, the biggest losers in the current system are legal low-wage workers, both native and foreign born, who compete with the illegal immigrants, Rosenblum said.
    Meanwhile, employers reap higher profits because of lower labor costs and more productive businesses.
    The solution to this imbalance, proposed by the Migration Policy Institute, is to provide more visas and legal channels for unskilled workers to enter the U.S.
    Today, low-skilled workers must have a green card — effectively requiring them to have close family members in the U.S. — or obtain a temporary work visa.
    “We really need to approach migration control comprehensively by both strengthening enforcements and creating legalization mechanisms that will control the unauthorized population and improve the economic outputs that we get from immigration,” Rosenblum said.

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      Truth??? your words in YOUR POST!—-> according to the report, sponsored by the Migration Policy Institute, a pro-immigration think tank in Washington.

      Well there’s something that was obviously written by a liberal socialist group! “SPONSORED BY A “PRO-IMMIGRATION THINK TANK”…..
      NO BIAS THERE! Yeah right!!!
      Where are the REAL FACTS that you talk about?? Oh…Don’t have any? Typical liberals, lots of biased opinions, but no facts or substance.
      How can you in good conscience, post under the name “truth” when you are a lying liberal? Oh yeah I forgot, “no conscience”, lying’s ok as long as it furthers your liberal socialist agenda.
      For real humor we don’t need Seinfeld or Leno anymore. We just come here and read your posts for our daily dose. Thanks for that!

    • Joe H.

      Truth(?),
      There might have been a small shred of truth to what you posted if all they did was go to the fields, but there was a report by 60 minutes a while back that shows in Texas towns that they are takinfg construction work, painting, working in meat packing plants at 12.00 an hour, mechanic work, welding. What do you think that does to our workforce? I say fine any employer a healthy fine if they hire illegals, fine landlords if they rent to them, make E-verify permanent, And most important, if found deport, deport, deport. Did I mention DEPORT???

      • Vincent

        I used to be a welder but I lost my job to illegals that were willing to work for less money then my 20 years of experience could get me. I would have been willing to work for $15 per hour but no company would hire me because they could get the illegals to work for $5 per hour. I had to change careers and thankfully my new career has not yet been taken by illegals.

  • Vic

    Has anyone seen the millions spent to support all the illegal immigrants in jail? They get free housing, food, cable, access to the gym, and medical. Free to them but it’s our tax dollars paying for all of it. With all the current cuts to the “virtual fence” and border patrols how are they going to stop the illegal immigrants from crossing the border into the USA? It upsets me that schools MUST provide a Spanish speaking teacher, extra costs. This is America. We speak English.

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      ¡No Mas! ¡No Mas!

  • Franker Frank

    Does anybody remember problems with illegal aliens before Roe v. Wade? Are not illegal aliens just replacing Americans we have murdered in the womb?
    Ever hear the saying, “If you are not a part of the solution there is great money to be made by prolonging the problem.” Both the largest and most successful organized crime syndicate in history (AKA the Democratic Party) and the biggest and most successful organized beggars union (AKA the Republican Party) have discovered this. Have you?

  • Phil

    Ronald Reagan gave illegals amnasty…republicans do this everytime…. I’ll ask this again even though I know I’ll get the same ignorant answers… Because it’s you rightys bitching about illegals… Why didn’t you do something about illegal immigrants when you had the whitehouse for 8 yrs and congress for 6…. If it was me bitching about illegals you could say” why didn’t Clinton” so why should republicans bitch if they did nothing when you could have…?

    • jim

      Hi Phil, WE have a Den monopoly NOW, what are they doing NOW. I agree the Reps. should have done something about it THEN and we were saying they should have back then also. WE are staying consistant. Hop into your time machine and get back to 2010 instead of whining about Bush, AGAIN.

      • jim

        DEM not DEN, who put that N by the M?

        • Phil

          Jim, you need to read these post on this site….irs not me doing the whining about illegals…. It’s the rightwingers … So the logical question “is”.. Why didn’t you doing something about it when you could have… Isn’t that a commonsense question?… Did Ronald Reagan grant them amnesty?… So far not 1 righty has the honesty or courage to answer that question…. You and I both know all the things the republicans ignored and pushed down the road are now issues you want to use aginst President Obama…and it’s my job to point that out…

          • jim

            I told you Phil I have ALWAYS been consistant with Writing congressmen, senators, newspaper editorials about the problem of ILLEGAL imigrants no matter what party was or is in control. What part of that don’t you get? You always point out what Reps have done in the past, but you can never defend what is going on NOW. The people you don’t like are gone, what are the people you support doing NOW. I agree Reagan made a mistake granting amnesty, and when Bush tried it again it was stopped by people like me writing our politicians. Your statement of “It’s not you whining about ILLEGALS, It’s right wingers.” would it be safe to say you whole heartedly suport ILLEGAL imigration? It’s my job to point out to you that BUSH isn’t here anymore, What is Obama and congress doing about it NOW?

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Vic, I’m a Dirt Hauler in the Sacramento area. One of my favorite north/south routes to and from several of the rock and/or hot plants in the Marysville area is Pleasant Grove Rd., east of SR 70. At the intersection with Bear River Drive, on the northwest corner, amongst the walnut groves, is a little Mexican Market. In that little grocery store, on the counter near the register, are two (2) red corded telephones – without dials/keypads. Both are directly connected to Mexico via a money exchange service. In season, those phones get quite a workout. (“That giant sucking sound”. Where is ol’ “H.” these days?)

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    To paraphrase the wonderful, compassionate women regulars on “The View”, “What is it with Democrat women [in charge of federal agencies] named Janet?”. Anyway: “Don’t Worry, Bob’s here!” That was the punch line from a rather memorable commercial for a temp agency from a few years ago. I took that line, applied it to illegal immigration and came up with the following tongue in cheek essay: “Don’t worry, B.O.B.’s here!” “B.O.B.” stands for “Bag limit? Or Bounty?” (If Bounty, “Dead or Alive?”) It went on from there. Unfortunately, it’s lost somewhere in the old, real old computer it was created on. You, however, I believe, get the idea. Of course, the “progressives” who read it were “outraged, simply outraged” by it. I saw this reaction as a good sign, since they usually are by the truth. I also was saddened by the realization that “A Modest Proposal”, or something similar, could not be published in todays world of “Politically Correct, New Speak”.

  • Vinnie

    It is more than past the time when the majority of good honest hard working true Americans rise up in unison and demand a rounding up of all illegals, as well as those who harbor them, and deport the B#st$$ds!!!!!!

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Ah, Phil. Ted (Edward the Idiot, of Camelot) Kennedy, in the sixties, introduced an amnesty bill, signed into law, that he touted would “Not change the face of America and would not take one job away from American workers, nor encourage one more illegal (“undocumented” was not yet in our politically incorrect lexicon) to cross our borders”. How many were here at the time? About a million. Anything change? Hmm?

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      Myron,
      And it’s obvious that Kennedy was slugging down the sauce at the time. To answer your question “has anything changed since that time”?
      Ummmm? Well yeah! Kennedy is no longer swilling the alcohol!! ha ha ha ;-)

      • blackhat

        And, don’t forget that Ted was “slugging” women over bridge railings then too!

        • Joe H.

          blackhat,
          Sacrelige!!!! You aren’t supposed to bring that up about good ol’ Eddie K.!!! He was a saint!!!! Too bad now all he gets is hot drinks ala hades!!!!

  • Phil

    So it’s a fact that Ronald Reagan gave illegals amnasty…. So Clinton really couldn’t do anything about illegals( he came after Reagan)…so after Clinton came Bush…. So once again , it’s republicans who never do anything about illegal immigration…. I realize I’m dealing with rightwingers with the intelligence of children but you have to admitt these are facts…republicans are weak on illegal immigration and I think they’re weak so they can have cheap labor to undercut unions and American workers…

  • Phil

    Myron … This is a ” yes” or ” no” question….. Did Ronald Reagan give illegals amnasty?…. Yes or no?…. And did his presidency come long after any Ted Kennedy bill?…you just keep avoiding the facts

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      No, Ronald Reagan never awarded amnasty to anyone. He did however, grant amnesty to three million illegals in 1986. I know, I know, phonics didn’t warrant a high priority in the socialist indoctrination schools that you attended. Just as long as you learned the difference between the R’s and the D’s, your comrad professors were satisfied. It’s an amazing feat when you stop and think about it, how they manage to perpetrate such a crime of brainwashing on unsuspecting students/subjects without the victims of said crimes awareness.

      Anyway, back to topic, how does amnesty for three million illegals 24 years ago justify amnesty for twelve to twenty million more illegals today? Especially when you consider having to incarserate the criminals amongst them, birth their anchor babies, provide general health care, provide housing and food stamps for all of them. The cost for all of this is breaking the bank in many states and most prominately in Mexifornia.

      I have an idea Phil, why don’t you sneak accross the border some night into Mexico, stay there a year and then report back on all the entitlements you received from the generous Mexican government and then we will match it, OK?

      • blackhat

        Michael, we do have to give phil a little credit here. He has created a new word for the American lexicon…am”nasty” – (verb) allowing people who break the immigration laws to get away with it.

        • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

          Damn blackhat; I was hoping that Phils new “AM NASTY” plan meant that we were all going to get a Mexican hooker for our enjoyment ;-)

  • Phil

    Myron… You should go read the”1965″ immigration bill… “IT WAS NOT AN AMNASTY BILL…

  • Phil

    And it’s pitiful that you’d try an use the excuse of a bill from 1965…

    • blackhat

      Why not phil? Because Myron went back 50 years? What’s the difference you bag on legislation that is 30 years old all the time. Or, are you just being hypocritical?

  • Vinnie

    Question – Who was it that rounded up all of Castro’s throw away convicts et al in a Miami Stadium and not only gave them amnesty but invoked citizenship on the lot ftom Cuba??????????

    • jim

      Hi Vinnie, That would be Carter.

      • Vinnie

        I don’t think so Jim – It was a Republican President, who saw all the smiling faces in the voting booth. I want to say Reagan – but am not absolutely sure it was him. I am researching the matter and will return with the answer.

        • Vinnie

          Lo & Behold! It was Reagan! In 1986 Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million people, which included Cubans whom he gathered together in Miami at the Orange Bowl and declared them instant citizens.

          • jim

            Hi Vinnie, I thought it was the late 70′s when a huge group of Cubans came over but that was many beers ago, so it could have been early 80′s. We’re still talking around 30 years ago. Let’s worry about NOW.

          • libertytrain

            The big one that caused much hardship, particularly for Florida was during Carter’s term – i.e.
            Floods of refugees crossed the Florida Strait in 1980 during the six-month Mariel Boat Lift, when Fidel Castro temporarily lifted restrictions preventing his people from leaving their homeland.
            More than 125,000 people left Cuba; among them the “undesirables” – people from the nation’s prisons and insane asylums – but also many law-abiding, mentally healthy “Marielitos” who continue to suffer the stigma associated with the exodus.
            Then-Gov. Bill Clinton agreed with the Carter administration’s decision to house some of the Cuban refugees in Arkansas, a move that later contributed to Clinton’s defeat in his first re-election bid.
            http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y01/apr01/09e7.htm

          • Michael J.

            Jim,
            You are correct, it was Jimmy Carter who was deceived by Castro to accept a few dozen immigrants initially. Later it was realized that Castro had used the occasion to empty his jails and mental wards to the tune of 125,000 individuals. These individuals were granted refugee status along with all the trimmings that comes with that distinction upon reaching American soil. Among the refugees was the lead character in the movie “Scarface”.

  • http://gmail i41

    Easist way to stop illegals is to fine employors $100,000 a head, for hiring illegals. Second put bountys on all illegals heads, $5000 a hd. would save America at least $10,0000, and still pay the boynty hunters. They are private contractors, so wouldn’t have to worry about healthcare. Our healthcare systems would slowy get back to normal. Since the illegals walked in we can load them back in livestock trailer for a trip back to the border, we humane!

    • http://SRT Kevin W.345

      Open season anyone?

    • Joe H.

      i41,
      The easiest way to do this is put a 100.00 bounty on each illegal and give it over to all the bounty hunters in each state. If they bring in ten a week they make a thousand. At the rate they cost us in services,welfare and crime it would be a bargain at 200.00 a head!!!

  • Ivan

    FAIR is NOT a legtitimate organization: it is a racist white supremacist group, the moderd day equivalent of KKK. FAIR should be
    a. outlawed as a hate group
    b. deported back in time to Nazi Germany
    c. deprted back in time to pre-Civil War South

    • blackhat

      Can we apply that to ACORN too?

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      HEY IVAN;
      You conveniently overlook C.A.I.R., A.C.O.R.N., LA RAZZA, HAMAS, and the A.C.L.U.! You know… the racist organizations that you’re OK with..

      p.s. Since when do Mexicans name their children Ivan? That is typically a Russian, or German name.

  • Phil

    Warrior… Bunning voted aginst the pay go bill and the unemployment benifits bill has already been paid for… Research it….Bunnings just an ignorant fool…theirs even republicans calling on him to stop the stupidity …. This bill is for the unemployed .. Why would anyone want to hold this bill up… He could have picked a much better fight than fighting aginst the unemployed…

    • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

      ¡Yo! Pill Boy. Lemme see here. Bunning voted against a bill that was passed into law. So, according to your take on this, since he didn’t vote for it, he shouldn’t have to obey it – right? Way to go – Dumbo.

  • Phil

    Ivan… Most of the people on this site are rightwing racist anti goverment Timothy Mcveigh types…

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      Hey Phil!
      That’s the most ignorant statement you’ve made today. Just about the time we think you can’t outdo yourself, you go and surprise us with an EVEN MORE IGNORANT STATEMENT! Nice…………

      • Joe H.

        Stephaan,
        hey give philly at least a b for that post for use of english and punctuation!!!! Better than his usual!!

        • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

          Joe;
          Phool missed 2 commas, and a hyphen, so I ain’t giving him sheist, unless he’s 6 years old. ha ha ha! Also I started him off with a d- because he’s a liberal socialist so I don’t see much hope for him. ;-)

    • libertytrain

      Phil – you are joking – or ridiculous.

      • keith

        nope,just ridiculous!!!!he doe’snt have the balls to say this trash in front of someone who would give him a attitudnal adjustment on the spot,so he posts this kind of immature retarted manure here.moron!

        • libertytrain

          Keith – that’s the truth for posters all over the Web – they are fearless in their anonymity. However, I doubt very much they would be brave enough to go face to face with their “enemy.”

    • Michael J.

      Phool,
      Most people on this sight know the destiny of the Mystical Messiah’s useful idiots like yourself. Do you even realize that if you and yours are sucessful in implementing the socialist utopia that sends that tingle down your leg, that the next step taken in the normalization period is the elimination of radical ideologues, homosexuals and blacks? Once communism is established, there is no longer a need for those types and as a matter of fact will be seen as a threat by the new regime. See for yourself if you dare. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo

  • Brittanicus

    “Uncompensated Care” carries a significant expense to taxpayers. Billions of Billions of dollars are forced from the taxpayers wallets paying for illegal immigrants, who should never crossed into American soil in the first place. We pick up the bills for education to at least k-12 for children of illegal aliens, but where does the money come for illegal students in state colleges? Then they use the word “Uncompensated care” for health treatment of emergency care that has closed down many hospitals in California. But their are finally the unknown amount of government at state, county and city entitlement. This doesn’t even account for the “uncompensated money” that is paid out for hundreds of thousands of “Anchor Babies” of pregnant Mothers who intentionally slip through the enforcement net at the airport, border to give birth and thereby getting instant citizenship; a travesty of our immigration laws opening the door wide-open for food stamps, housing, MediCAD, MediCAL and the rest of the families settlement here. legal pregnant women have to pay for there natal care, unless they are low income. Uncompensated care is passed onto any US patient in their potential bills, the insurance companies unlike for illegal nationals who pay—NOTHING. These people know the welfare system better than any American and take full advantage of it, including the use of fraudulent drivers licenses, social security numbers extracted from the deceased records, infants just born and even our soldiers fighting overseas. With the assistance of ACORN they have even fraudulently qualified for home mortgages.

  • ONTIME

    There is a problem with this congress and it has to do with the majority party, they are blatantly dishonest. This type of legislation is in accordance with their agenda to sieze and keep power for as long as possible by first getting illegals and non citizens employed, then claiming that since they pay taxes and hold legal jobs they should be treated like citizens and allowed to vote.

    The November elections are going to be tough, the dems are going to try and hijack these ballots by using unions, illegals, non citizens, criminals and ACORN workers. They intend to try and intimidate, bully and keep all who oppose them away from the ballot box by any means they can and the election laws will not be enforced to any great degree. Many saw these tactics in the last election and those were test drive tactics to see what would work and pass by the electorate, this will be the modus operendai again and folks, I am here to tell you your one man one vote is in peril, it is a single bastion of power afforded to you but these people intend to take it from you.

    • keith

      i would really like to see one or more of these libral knotheads try and intimidate me,a baseball bat up londside the head is waiten for em!

  • Vinnie

    It was good Ol’ “B actor” Ronald Reagan’s support of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), which put undocumented immigrants on a path to legalization and made it illegal to knowingly hire unauthorized workers.
    In 1986 Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million people. You know what happened? In addition, the 3 million is now 11 million and counting.
    And as I commented previously,”Lo & Behold! It was Reagan! In 1986 Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million people, which included Cubans whom he gathered together in Miami at the Orange Bowl and declared them instant citizens.”

    • jim

      Hi Vinnie, I guess if Reagan gave three million amnesty, 30 years ago, it will be 4 times better when we give 12 million or more amnesty,right?

      • Vinnie

        No way Jim! No amnesty to 11 or 12 million – Deportation is the only answer!

        • keith

          could’nt have said it better!

        • jim

          I’ve got my pasenger CDL, I’ll help drive them back to the border.

    • Husker 10th Amendment

      He later said it was his worst mistakes

  • Vinnie

    Y de todo México hay gritos de Viva Reagan, ahora puedo ir a América!

    • libertytrain

      “All over Mexico there are shouts of Long Live Reagan, now I can go to America!”
      Is that what you are trying to tell us?

  • Phil

    Soon you rightys will have to report to your local Death Panels and your problems will be solved ….lol

    • jim

      Hi Phil, When I’m standing in the death panel line, I’m going to be holding your hand.

    • keith

      yeah,thats real funny huh?ignorant moron!i bet you think your a riot!idiot!!!your stupid remark just reveals your low intelligence.friggen moron!

  • http://SRT Kevin W.345

    Why don’t you people write your congressman instead of leaving messagaes here?

    • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

      Kevin,
      Emailing our congressmen is a lot faster, and doesn’t waste as much time. That way when they don’t bother to acknowledge our letters, we don’t feel so ignored, and it doesn’t seem like we have wasted as much time. I’m sure that 90%-95% of posters on here are flooding their reps inboxes at least once a week, except for the liberals of course, who are quite happy with the way things are going.

      • Joe H.

        Stephaan,
        My congressman and I are on a first name basis. I talked to him at a meeting here in eastlake and when I introduced myself, he said my name sounded familiar. I told him it should as it has sure passed his office many many times. i have talked to him since then and he remembers my name!!! I must have spent 150.00 on postage during Bushes scamnesty!!!!

        • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

          Joe;
          I wrote my blue dog last week asking for a specific vote record so I could post it here (for his benefit) but haven’t heard back from him yet. Go figure. IMHO his “dog” status is starting to fade.

    • libertytrain

      Because it’s a nice place to relieve your stress and share with many like-minded people as well as argue with non-like-minded people. Everyone listens to each other far more than the elected officials do -

  • http://gmail i41

    Fil must be a mama’s boy, wants someone feed and change and dress him until he dies. He appears to have a problem with being able to do anything himself or his liberal group with a supervisor, boss, or bush bunny to guide them through life. He loves unions and leaders like Putin and Chavez, complete control by the government, modeled after Nationalized Democratic Party of Germany.
    Thank God we can keep our guns, when you drop a thug or thief, they usually aren’t repeat offenders, same as death sentences, or cost more to keep lawyers busy.

  • http://gmail i41

    I forgot to include the trained educated ape in the WH, who Fil and the libs have tingles up their spinal cord for.

  • Leo

    Sooo – it seems as if Ivan is your typical liberal – the kind who can rant and label those he disagrees with – but wishes to restrict free speech for the rest of us. I have been a member of FAIR for years and they do not denigrate, but do print factual info regarding the invasion of illegal aliens, including their negative impact on this nation. The Heritage Foundation has done an extensive report on the downside of open borders, including the outrageous financial outlay!

    Anyone with a shred of common sense can realize that we cannot continue to allow poor and uneducated aliens to breach our borders with expectations of cradle to grave entitlements, while the government continues to promote the exportation of living wage jobs. No penalties are imposed on products that reenter this country and are allowed to be sold in direct competition with the rare items still produced within our borders. Illegals, who once worked mainly harvesting crops, have realized that construction and other blue collar jobs, pay a better wage, resulting in more Americans in the unemployment line. Truth obviously lives in a vacuum, resistant to considering any “truthful” intake of info. In direct opposition to the statement that Americans are better educated now, is the claim that we are technologically challenged, hence the necessity to import H-1B workers from India, etc. And, are you aware that many other classifications have been established to allow importation of workers to fill jobs Americans would willingly do? There are still plenty of High School dropouts, although many do earn GEDs.

    The promotion of importing ever more illegals, has nothing to do with compassion, and everything to do with exploitation of the illegals and most especially, of American citizens. It has nothing to do with human rights, nor does it have to do with Constitutional rights, since as non-citizens, Constitutional rights do not apply! It does have to do with satisfying the greed of those we elect to “serve” this nation and their contributors, whom they actually serve.

    • Joe H.

      Leo,
      i get FAIRs newsletters over E-mail and have confirmed a lot of things they have posted as fact. I believe it was them that posted the video of just one trail the illegals use to come here and the estimate is over 10,000 illegals a month use it! That includes “mules” that carry drugs accross and return though!!! I hope they keep informing the public about the depth of this problem!!!

  • keith

    the illegal aliens are a MAJOR problem!!!i am a journeyman carpenter,metal studd framer,drywall hanger,accoustical ceiling mech who has mostly been out of work for years now.
    the damn illegals have virtually taken over the construction trades and they know it.i have seen them arrogantly talk shit to us as they know there is’nt a thing we can do about it.they are orginized and the illegal ones work for some mexican or other who blankets them under workmans comp.and now they want to give them the right and make it now legal to take our work!makes me mad as hell!!!!!
    what right does this administaration have to do this????
    just goes to show that obama has NO respect nor concern for the AMERICAN workers who are being flushed down the libral/democrat toilet and spat on.
    this makes me sick.i don’t want to hear about previous administations!it’s about THIS one,to hell what so and so did.obama n co have put me along with thousands out of work!beleive i KNOW,as i AM a construction tradesman.friggen sorry assed pricks.THEY NEED TO GO!!!
    all you folks who think and assume this is no big deal,well your full of b.s!

  • http://gmail i41

    The 1965 bill which allowed anchor babied and chain migration to occur, was a gaint mistake. When I called and went to meeting several years ago, my Dem. sentor and rep claim we need illegals. Where I live we have trouble with livestock breaching fences, if a cow calves, we send here back and you had better not brand and keep the calf, Cattle theives have streched more than one rope. The land owner can get damages in a court if livestock stay to long. USA should present a bill to Mexico, if they won’t pay take some ground in exchange, but both Bamaee and past presidents along with congress would wet their dresses.

  • Antonio

    Hello to everybody, I don’t want to talk about things that happened 30, 50, or 100 years ago. The real problem we have is here now thats (today). I am from Colombia a very hard country to live in, and it aggrevates me to hear so many people here talk about how poor they are. THEY DON’T KNOW SHIT ABOUT POVERITY!!! All these food stamps, section A housing, WIC, and Free healthcare and the list goes on I’m sure. They are all millionairs compared to Colombians. Illegal aliens are a problem, a very real and serious one. The main thing that angers me is that back in 2006 when all the latin people were protesting,(for nothing really) all Bush said is that he wanted to grant amnesty to them, they waved the flags of thier home country!!! With that they need to be packed up and shipped out to the countries that they love so much. By the way, it’s illegal to wave the flag of a foriegn country in other countries some punishable by DEATH. Wake the –up America love your country fight for whats right and always be extremly right winging!!!

    • Barb

      It is so nice to hear from a Latino who obviously immigrated the RIGHT way! There are a lot of you out there. I know it is frustrating for you because too often the legal immigrants get lumped in with the illegals in these discussions. I agree with you 100% Antonio, I was a Bush fan on a lot of issues but not on the immigration issue. I also feel that if they can’t give up their language, culture and flag and everything else from their so-called hated country then why are they here???? They all need to go straight back, illegal is simply that, illegal. That means AGAINST THE LAW, why is that so hard for this government to understand. We can barely take care of our own much less take care of all the riff raff from other countries and I feel most of the illegals are just that!Thanks for a nice point of view from someone who knows what it means to completely change his life and adopt a new country and life. Welcome to what is left of America.

  • http://myronjpoltroonian.blogspot.com Myron J. Poltroonian

    Antonio. Thank you for trying to bring some of these pampered fools back to reality. I learned a long time ago, in a foreign country (Munchen, West Germany) that I was not a hyphenated American, when I responded to the question, asked in German, “Was Bis Du?” (what are you?) with, “Armenisher, Englander, Franklander, Hollander und Scotlander” which was met with, “Ach. Amerikaner!”. I’ve never forgotten that lesson.

  • Dan-o

    We need to allow all illegals to become citizens to bring in the extra revenue in order to pay for the extra policing and prisons.
    I say there should be a bounty for any gang member taken out, but then that would take care of are Government proplem since there the biggest and badest gang of all.

    • Antonio

      No Dan, we don’t need to allow all illegals to become citizens. What we NEED to do is deport them and finish the wall that BUSH started and that the terrorist obama stopped. What an arrogant man he is. If you want extra revenue you need to help lower the taxs, and put a stop to a lot of these senseless taxes that are you bills. Have you ever obsevered the taxes that you pay on a cel phone??? Have ever looked at the taxes on any of your bills??? Do you even have any bills??? Or are you just another worthless bum who gets foodstamps and section A housing??? If so, you are part of the problem.

  • Antonio

    Hi Barb!!! I’m happy to have met you. There is so much to talk about, but just cannot put it all here. Anyways, when i was in Colombia i studied english; it was my dream to be able to speak english better than the Americans. It was not easy either. When i was finally able to come to the USA, i was so happy that i would be able to provide for my parents. When i arrived here i met so many latin people that could not speak English and i would often offer to teach them. I got respones like ” no me gusta esa pinche idioma” “no quiero aprender el ingles” “para que quiero hablar ingles no quiero hablar con pinche gringos” This really hurts me because these people make me look bad. They have been here for 20, 30yrs, and some that have been born here still can not speak English. Don’t they care enough about this country to a least learn a little bit of English???

    • Barb

      That’s a big part of the problem. They want US to speak Spanish! They want to make Spanish the official language of the USA! And what is sad is they are slowly but surely getting closer to making that a reality! The progressives are making sure of it! They don’t want to learn because it makes it easier for them to justify getting all kinds of assistance if they can’t speak the language. Sad isn’t it? Especially on our part for allowing it to happen!

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    Wild immigration, uncontrolled and unassimilated, has not enriched USA.
    Instead, resulting in incredible chaos (50 languages in one school? – insanity!) distoring the identificatgion and culture of America, at 5 times the total annual cost of both wars – $350 Billion – a saving in plain sight while the president scrounges around to save a mere $15b. Calif gov states the cost of supporting illegal prisoners in Calif alone costs over one billion annullly. A ten year hiatus of all immigration is the solution for America, which is deeper in debt than in its entire history.It would return the country to sensible order, after which the former restricted, highly successful policy of only
    assimilated immigration resumed to the mutual benefit of immigrant and America. America has its own government which you must respect. It is
    why people immigrate here. Muslim Shootout with the FBI October, 2009.
    Good Lord, deportation of anti-American government must be the policy of America if it is to even survive. America is not here to be taken over. This must be recognized as the highest of all dangers to America.
    Competent leadership is an absolute requirement. This is not on the job training. This has never before happened in the United States of America. America must remain strong. Accept our Constitution and its laws. It is not an option. Return trip tickets are available.

  • Doris Birkett (DJ)

    Everyone is complaing about the mexican borders, what about the Iranians, Iraqies etc, that hate americans, what about the Psychytrist, that we brought here trained him, gave him free food housing, & training let him join our Amy let him stay in contact with the bombers of the twin towers, then he shot 38 Americans because he was trained from birth to hate Americans, mexicans come across the border & take our jobs & welfare, but they don’t bomb us. Our government is our real enemy, greedy & dangerous to whats left of the American people. what about the Seniors that worked all theur lives & paid taxes that can’t have a cost of living raise for 2 yrs, because they need the money to pay for the 3 million illegals coming from our enemie countries, but rent & food & utilites & gas we buy from our enemy countries keep going up. I think Mexico is the least of our worries. Read the news then read Revelations, sounds alike. The good Lord is getting tired of all our BS too/

  • Husker 10th Amendment

    And what will happen when the money runs out another jobs bill. The government can not create jobs unless we all become Government employees but then who will pay the tax’s. The stimulus and jobs bill is a farce think about it the Government pays business to hire people but the money can’t last forever and when it does so does the jobs, unless the economy improves but won’t because of higher tax’s. Those of you who support these bills are fools or at least delusional.

  • http://us-immigration-reform.org/ Immigrant kid

    It fits our needs perfectly the advantage of immigration reform on the country: Greater supply of unskilled workers, a younger workforce, and skilled workers in needed sectors. But there is also a disadvantage of immigration reform like Greater poverty, more educational cost, lower unskilled wage levels, and increased danger of terrorism. Thanks to the post!

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