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Immigration Law Experts Believe Republican House Leaders Will Push For Enforcement, Not Reform

November 22, 2010 by  

Immigration law experts believe Republican House leaders will push for enforcement, not reformSome immigration experts believe that the new Republican-led House of Representatives will be more focused on enforcing immigration law, rather than pushing through a comprehensive reform of the currently broken system.

According to The Epoch Times, Stephen Yale-Loehr, a professor of law at Cornell University, expects comprehensive immigration reform to be placed on the back burner in the next congressional session. Yale-Loehr, who is the co-author of a 20-volume immigration law treatise, said that key leaders on immigration and Homeland Security subcommittees will likely concentrate more on drafting stricter laws for illegal immigrants who are already living in the United States.

Aziz Rana, who is also a law professor at Cornell, told the news provider that the economic situation does not bode well for immigration reform. Rana added that reform has historically been unpopular during economic downturns.

Some groups, however, are optimistic about future reform legislation under the GOP leadership. The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) said that the results of midterm elections reflected the public's feelings on broken immigration policies.

"FAIR urges the leadership of the next Congress to embrace the agenda of the American people and transform our immigration policy to place their interests first," said Dan Stein, the organization's president. "The American people want our immigration laws enforced and overall levels of immigration reduced."

The group noted that several reform proposals have already garnered bipartisan support, including mandatory work eligibility verification, enhanced security along the nation's borders and elimination of the visa lottery program. 

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  • http://?? Joe H.

    We don’t need reform, we need enforcement of ALL laws on the books! If caught, the illegal, if he is Mexican, must be deported to the southern border of Mexico!!!

    • http://naver sook young

      I agree with you Joe H. I feel if we enforced the current laws on the books we wouldn’t need to have tougher legislation. I was an immigrant for many years and I’ll tell you that I don’t like anyone who comes here illegally. If I can go through the system then they can also. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • http://MSN Shirley Warren

        Sook, I’m so glad someone like yourself that IS a Legal Immigrant came forth and spoke up. I have some friends from New Zealand and I couldn’t believe all they had to do to even come here. The same must be required of others. Thank you for speaking up and letting others know that your way was and IS the proper and correct way to come to America.

        Shirley

      • John D

        To Sook, I am glad you are an american citizen. I am glad that you came here legally. I am sad that some people can read your statement and twist it around to sound like you entered here illeagally. When it is obvious to me that you went through the system. I guess that some people just hear what they want and twist things to their point of view. I have several friends who are recent legal immigrants who now have become citizens. They all feel the same way you do. Why should someone who breaks our laws be given the same rights and priviliges of someone who obeys them. As far as getting God into any political arguments please remember the words of Jesus Chrit ” Give unto Cesar what is Cesar’s and give unto God what is God’s”.

    • http://naver samurai

      I also agree with you, fellow patriot. I just want to add that if they keep comming back, then we should use what is allowed under the Patriot Act 1 & 2 to correct the situation. One of the accepted punishments is castration. I know the libs will say that is too extreme, but who cares what they say. This is our country and it needs to be defended by any means possible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Ed

        I just assume you do not know God.

        • http://naver sook young

          Why would you say something so ignorant as that? My husband only stated what was in the documents in question, but he wouldn’t do it himmself. He’s also right that we do need to protect this country. Do you really know God, Ed? If you do, could you tell me what it says in the Bible about what foreigners are supposed to do to live in our country? Can you answer my questions? Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • Angel Wannabe

            sook young, I’ll chime in if you don’t mind___heres is two passages on what to do about foreigners in our lands__

            ““When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

            Leviticus 19:33-34 ESV

            ——————————————————————————–

            “”For anyone of the house of Israel or of the immigrants who stay in Israel who separates himself from Me, sets up his idols in his heart, puts right before his face the stumbling block of his iniquity, and then comes to the prophet to inquire of Me for himself, I the LORD will be brought to answer him in My own person.”

            Ezekiel 14:7 NASB

            They’re are more on this!

          • http://naver sook young

            Thank you Angel.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Claire

            sook young–I think of you every time I visit with my neighbor. She is from Korea and I adore her. She is so sweet and pleasant. Her husband is in the Army, he has made the Army his career. They are a lovely couple with two young daughters. I am happy they are my neighbors.

          • Jamesmilligan

            Sook Young, Angel wannabe is wrong, God told Israel to respect those sojourners for they were just passing through. But God also said for those that wanted to stay they must be circumsized and join Israel in all things. I don’t agree with Sumari but Angel is wrong to. These that come over here illegaly arn’t sojourners, the are invaders who come to take and do not give, they are breaking our laws just being here.

        • Claire

          I will post one of my favorites—-

          Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace;
          Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
          Where there is injury, pardon;
          Where there is doubt, faith;
          Where there is despair, hope;
          Where there is darkness, light;
          And where there is sadness, joy;
          O Divine Master, grant that I may
          not so much seek
          To be consoled, as to console;
          To be understood, as to understand;
          To be loved, as to love;
          For it is in giving that we receive,
          It is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
          And it is in dying that we are born
          to eternal life.

          • http://naver samurai

            Thank you Claire for telling me the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi. I like that one too. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Claire

            samurai–Talk about ESP!! I just posted to your wife! I always loved that verse from St. Francis of Assisi–it always calms my soul and mind.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well said Sook Young & Samurai!

        • http://naver samurai

          Thank you, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver sook young

          Thank you Angel. I think that he just came to drop one comment and probably won’t be heard from again, I hope. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

          • Teresa

            Here is my favorite: Numbers 10:9
            And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the LORD your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies.

        • eddie47d

          Sook; That passage from Leviticus 19 says you are to accept strangers(immigrants) as equal. So which is it? That Bible verse doesn’t say anything about legal status. I didn’t know that castration was in the Patriot Act. No wonder it is abhorred! ( both Patriotic Act and castration).Since you and Samurai could care less about liberals or what anyone else thinks,then you must accept wickedness (castration) to solve your problems. You both have the audacity to accuse the left when you should take the beam out of your own eye.

          • Angel Wannabe

            and the log out of yours as well eddie!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Ya don’t take out of context, that of which you agree with eddie m’boy__The whole acceptance of someone being from another country, is based on an to adherence to Gods laws and the laws of the land!_-God doesn’t put up with idol worshippers!

          • eddie47d

            So Angel you support the tyranny of castration? That is despicable unless you are talking about serial rapists. The right wing has always had a dark side so keep talking and I will be listening! You deplore Fema death camps (extremist hoax) but follow like sheep in using dictator style means to achieve your goals.

          • Angel Wannabe

            It the case of rape you bet ur ass I’d support castration! and if ya ever botherd me or one of my girls, I wouldn’t wait for the law to do it either!__BTW, If you gonna quote sctipture, then do yourself and others a favor, And read the whole context of a perticular verse. Don’t just pick out what you agree or don’t agree with!____The Bible says a lot of things, you don’t have to like it.

          • http://Alaska Wild Bill

            Too bad your dad was not castrated before you were concieved.That would have saved a lot of trouble for a lot of people.
            Wild Bill
            Alaska

          • Angel Wannabe

            Ya just can’t get by eddie without being a smartazz, can ya?

          • eddie47d

            So who’s the idol worshipper Angel? God’s law or man’s law (Patriotic Act). You sure seem to quote scripture without even knowing what it means.

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie47d__The scripture quoted is directly copied and pasted, like I said, you don’t have to like what it says! Why don’t ya do something different and quit being a smart azz!!!__God forbid ya might like it!

          • eddie47d

            I would say that you are the “smart” azz and talk with forked tongue. Sounds like you are using the Bible for a punch line.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Oh eddie go play in the freeway, your a PIA!__Geez what a child!!

          • http://naver samurai

            OK edduh, you’ve really messed up this time. I just stated what was in the Patriot Act 1 & 2, I didn’t say that I would go to our southern boarder with a knife in my hands. Ready to perform the act myself. Second, you say that we don’t care what the left says and that we “hate” the liberal political machine? Bzzzzz, wrong agian edduh! My wife and I don’t hate the individuals that come to this site. Since we have never met anyone face to face, the emotion of hate isn’t even close to being in the picture. Now, it is true that there are many things about the left we don’t like. For instance: bigger government, less freedom for the people, killing babies, gays, forcing legislation on the people, trying to push God back into the churches and out of public life, the myth about separation of church and state, no school prayer (though such actions are voluntary), warping and trying to destroy the Constitution because of our Christian founding, etc. It’s the ideals that we despise and not the people in general. Third, if my wife or I say something that you don’t agree with, so what? Get over it! You don’t want to piss my wife off, you may just be surprised what she can do. Koreans are strong willed people. Lastly, since you seem to have your own ideas of how we can make America great again, this is your chance to list them. State whatever facts, sources, or opinions you may have. Let’s see if some our our thoughts and yours coincide in some areas. Will you pick up the gauntlet that lies at your feet, edduh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I suggest you ask sook young about the carrying rack and the two support sticks used with it in Korea!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JoeH, I don’t know what thats about, but it sounds like it would hurt!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Joe H., are you talking about tying him down and spanking him? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Joe H. My husband guessed wrong. I remember the chair you are suggesting. You sit the person down, tie their upper body to the back of the chair, tie their hands to the chair’s arms, their feet to the legs, place the two sticks between the person’s legs, and then a person on each side pulls or pushes them down with their full strength. It always had people breaking their knees, legs, or both.

            Another one was used on prisoners of war. It was a wooden frame 5 meters wide by 10 meters high. They prisoner would have a rope going from the support legs of the structure to the person’s ankles. Other ropes would go from the two top corners to the person’s wrists. They would then pull the ropes tight and the prisoner would be suspended in mid air. After a day or two in the hot sun, the prisoner was relieved of all pain by having archers shoot him with many arrows.

            I hope these are also good suggestions for you. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • DennisC

            And they call waterboarding torture.

    • Sneddog

      Totally agree Mate! But what we need to do is not drop them at the boarder as they’ll just be back next week is fly them to some remote airstrip in the central mountains of Mexico somewhere and drop them off.

      We also need to start shutting down more employers of illegals. If they knowingly employ an illegal it’s a $10K fine for each illegal and you loose your business license for a year, You have to also pay all taxes that would have been paid if the worker was legally in the country, both the companies portion and what the worker would have to pay. It also automatically triggers an IRS audit, if you are hiring illegals what else are you doing to your books. By making it so punitive on the employer so they won’t even consider hiring illegals, most of the illegals will leave on their own. Any illegal in our jails and prisons goes back to his or her own country. For legal immigration our laws should match the country of origins. For example if you are Australian and your want to immigrate to America your requirements are the same as an American trying to go to AUS. This would be fine for the people from Australia, New Zealand, Europe as their requirements are stiffer than ours but obtainable. Ever looked into what it takes to immigrate to Mexico from the US? Te same rules would apply to Mexicans immigrating to the US. I hate to say it but we are full up of your Hungry and Tired and what ever else it says on the Statue of Liberty. Lastly if you are over 16 and from a middle eastern country don’t even ask, we’ll say no every time.

  • jskdn

    Ever think that many people might consider enforcement to be reform?

    • http://Alaska Wild Bill

      To clarify,my last comment was meant for eddie 47

      • Dan az

        Wild Bill I knew that!

  • Autie

    I am trying to get a job in my state, the guy who wants to hire me (at a good paying job) told me he can’t until one of his guys leaves. (this is due to the insurance going up) He says it wouldn’t be cost effective to hire one more guy. If he was going to pay that much more insurance he would hire 3-4 more guys. But he is not ready to make that leap. The thing is every one of those other guys is Spanish. My other job that I do have is also 95% Spanish…I just want a good job…I see both places giving jobs to people with work visas. What is wrong with giving jobs to Americans? Why should I have to compete against these people?

    • barbm

      my kids are in college and have several professors who are so difficult to understand that they aren’t making as good grades as they are in the ones with american born professors. why do we hire foreign born teachers ahead of our own especially when the economy is soooo bad? charity begins at home. when our economy is healthy, then we can start to worry about others.

      • 45caliber

        I met one of those professors once. He said that he was a physics professor in Hungry and fled to the West. The feds game him the job – even though he didn’t speak any English at all – so he could have a job and he could also learn to speak English. Your child may be in the same fix as his students.

    • Doc Sarvis

      So they are from Spain? I didn’t know we had much of an illegal problem with Spain.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        No Doc, for you, they are Martians!!! I never thought a man could be an idiot 24/7, but you proved me wrong!!!

  • ioo

    this is not a competition illegal versus legal, patriot vs unpatriot, god or not god.
    this is a market adjustment, people like you to do more for the same money
    u have to know more things to do and in the same time to move your ass more faster
    if you have a business is not practical to hire more people to install a door/ example
    i understand your frustration but for for 300 millions population 12 millions is just 4%

    i understand you are not smart like the rest of percentage(96%) to have a job, but not even 4%?

    this people came from so farr, they don,t know to speak, they don,t have paper , and you tell me they took your job??

    just say u hate,em , don,t blame them !!
    …. and try to find a job !!
    good luck !

    • RW

      In 1986 Ronald Reagan gave amnesty to what was believed to be 1 million illegals. 9 million signed up. ANY QUESTIONS?
      If we use the 12-20 million figure they tout today…that means that somewhere in the neighborhood of 108 – 180 million people are in our country illegaly. You either are here as an illegal yourself, or you have been drinking to much Kool-Aid! And by the way, there are lots of white folks up here in Reno who mow their lawns, and gasp, other peoples lawns as well. So spare us they won’t do the job BS, because that’s exactly what it is….B/S!

      • barbm

        reagan gave them amnesty based on the belief that the border would then be closed to keep any more from coming in. we see where that got us. the border might as well be open for all of them to come in. we need armed troops on the border who are allowed to shoot anything moving north.

        • Sneddog

          Totally agree! A couple dozen dead illegals on the boarder what a great deterrent! anyone headed South gets assistance!

      • Jim Cumber

        RW: About a year or two ago, at the Constitution Party State Convention in Utah, I heard a speech by a fellow who was involved in the immigration area during the Reagan Administration. He had kept current on the numbers since then. The figure of 12 to 20 million illegals is “Bovine Scatology” to Use General Schwarzkopf’s apt phrase. The ACTUAL figure (according to the Reagan Administration expert) is more like 40 million “illegals” as of 2008! Time to “clean House” (and Senate!), INCLUDING the OTM (Other Than Mexican) illegals, MANY of whom are Fanatical “Fundamentalist Muslims”…

  • Angel Wannabe

    I just recieved this vid in email_-Thought I’d share it___it brought tesr to my eyes!___

    hope links works!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE

    • libertytrain

      Nice – it was wonderful -

    • http://Alaska Wild Bill

      Angel
      Thank you so much for that.It gives one a sense of hope.
      Wild Bill
      Alaska

    • http://none Mike

      Beautiful I hope this kind of thing is never outlawed here in the states because its not P.C. Mike L.

      • Sneddog

        Ah but Mike it offended a Muslim that was in the mall and now the mall is being sued for allowing religious activities that violated the rag head’s rights.

        I’m kidding, at least I hope so, but that day is coming quicker than we think if we don’t put our feet down right now and push back, hard!

        • http://none Mike

          Sneddog, Thats why I put that last bit in there.I am sure some ACLU lawyer is looking into it right now. With dollarsigns and media darlings in his eyes. So what if they destroy cristmas for the rest of us. Mike L.

    • Dan az

      Hey Angel
      WOW!!!It gave me chills thanks!

      • libertytrain

        I have to admit I posted it to Facebook, sent it to a few more friends and have watched it half a dozen times myself. We did that in high school – and it still gives me goosebumps. It is a tough song to sing.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Me too Liberty train, my husband and were engaged, and it was the last Choral concert we did before graduation!___I remember it like it was yesterday! :)

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sorry I meant “My husband and I”!

          • libertytrain

            nice, what part of the country was this and what year?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Libertytrain_Mid-Atlantic states__1975

    • http://naver samurai

      Thank you Angel! It is truely inspirational to see something like that happening in America today. Thank you from both of us. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      Samurai and Sook Young

      • Angel Wannabe

        Samurai & Sook Young__I hope it keeps happening too!

  • Robert

    The system is not broken. The American Gov’t is, under obama and holder. We won’t prosecute illegals but we will prosecute Arizona for enforcing the laws that eric and I are supposed to be enforcing. Maybe I didn’t explain myself well enough to the people, given more time, they’ll come to like it, the dreams of obama = Americas Nightmare!
    Now I ask, What’s broken here? obama, holder,reid, and pelosi. Americas most hated!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      President Obama has done more than any modern president in devoting boots on the ground at the border and is deporting far more illegal immigrants than any recent president.

      • Angel Wannabe

        RIIIIGHT!__Boots?__How’s ’bout Danger signs___That’d scare the hell outts me!__Geez

        • Doc Sarvis

          Record numbers of illegal immigrants have been deported since President Obama took office, and the number of audits of businesses that hire undocumented workers has quadrupled during the same period, The Washington Post reported.

          The administration’s plan to overhaul federal immigration laws has led to the deportation of about 400,000 people this fiscal year. That’s ten percent more deportations than the Bush administration’s 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007, according to the Post.

          from: http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/26/deportation-of-illegal-immigrants-increases-under-obama/

          • Angel Wannabe

            DS, I could care less what Bush did, we’re on Obama’s time now. I don’t believe in polls or stat numbers. Manipulation runs rampant in them and the numbers depends who ya poll, Libs or Repubs. All I know is Jan Brewer, Arizona’s governor, has been asking for assistance at controlling the border and doesn’t seem to get it. That’s nothing but politics and same thing happened with Bobby Jindal, in New Orleans, in the BP oil spill!___ How odd they’re both Republican Governors!?!_and No I don’t believe in coincidences!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Angel Wannabe,
            Well there’s a non-argument if ever I heard one.

          • 45caliber

            And you believe the Washington Post? No wonder you have such … odd … reasoning.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Journalism that includes documentation – what do you believe?

          • eddie47d

            Angel will use quotes to bolster her “logic”, but if you do then it is immaterial.

          • Vigilant

            oc,

            What’s with the oft-repeated defense of Obama every time you get a chance to post on this subject? And how can you seriously think he’s for tightening up border security in the wake of Holder’s shameful suit against Arizona? And when you talk about “boots on the ground,” how about honestly admitting that putting a paltry few thousand on the border is only a fraction of what’s needed to stem the flow? In short, why the inellectual dishonesty?

            FAIR says, “It is difficult to have an exact figure because the illegal nature of their presence prevents any enumeration, but the U.S. Census Bureau estimated 8.7 million illegal immigrants were here in 2000, and immigration officials estimate that the illegal immigrant population grows by as many as 500,000 every year.”

            Do the math, more are coming in and staying than are leaving.

          • Dan az

            Whats up Doc
            Those numbers reflect just what he did last month how about the ones this month?4600 estimate per day!Those that went back where only those that had crimes posted against them how many did they miss? what happened to the ones that he forced the states to release that had no crimes?Like I said before I will be glad to take you to the borders unarmed and pick you up the nest day if you would like to show everyone here that it is so safe.Ill bring a garbage bag for your remains.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Doc sarvis,
            It’s easy to deport in record numbers when you have historicly high numbers of them streaming accross the border. Percentage wise Nobummer is doing no better than any one before him!!!

          • Bleh

            Doc,
            He might as well do nothing for all the good that will do.
            There is no point in deporting 4 hundred thousand a year. We take in over a couple million illegals a year in recent times. If he isn’t deporting over a couple million + 4 hundred thousand then it’s a futile exorcise and a waste of time and money.
            Your paltry numbers are pathetic, a mere drop in the bucket and will only slightly delay the complete collapse of the infrastructure in this country. There will come a tipping point if this is not brought under control and it will come in this lifetime for most.

      • http://naver samurai

        If you believe what the MSM or Obama bin Laden tells you, then you are a moron! If he has, then why does he verbally attack Arizona and side with Mexico in court? Can you answer these questions? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Sneddog

        He put a couple hundred National Guard Troops on the boarder with no enforcement authorization smoke and mirrors trying to placate us but we see right through it. We need 12,000+ troops on the boarder with full arrest capability and immediate deportation authority and if they run shoot to kill authority. That will help seal our boarders a bit more.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Robert, the only thing thats broken, is they’re not enforcing the laws already in place!

  • Tasmanian devil

    Enforcement is the way to go. Hell we have more than just illigal Mexicans coming accross the fence. I think we all know who they are.

    • BOB

      THIS IS 100% CORRECT. ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ENFORCE THEIR BORDERS EXCEPT AMERICA. OUR GOVERNMENT IS BRAIN DEAD.

      • Robert Bradfield

        Hi it is that South African again, in our country we do not have the enforcement of immigration laws so we have become a country of Zimbabweans, Nigerians, and what ever other -ians you can think of. Who pays the price, take a guess, the tax payers of our country. Can one blame people for xenophobia when the locals see their jobs disappearing down the immigration toilet? In the long term this might also be the USA’s future.

        • http://none Mike

          Thanks for your input. Its good to have a world wide imput here somtimes from people in countries where policies like the ones our goverment is pushing have gone wilde.There are a few of us here that have studied world history and anthropology and can see where invasive cultures have brought down established cultures throught out time. No saying there should be no immagration. Because controlled immagration has been a staple in the establishment of fair governance through time as well. But mass wholesale immagration to any socity is bad in this way. Most mass immigration through history has been to acomplish the goals of weakening the culture of the country the migration has come to. Most of these immagrants do not want to learn about the culture they are migrating to. But want the benifits of said culture.So they bring the bad elements of their culture with them and try to change the culture migrated too. Thus they have no respect for the language,traditions, And laws of said culture. Leagle immagrants try to assimilate the good in the culture they have migrated to. Thus they wish to learn the language,laws and traditions of the country they migrate too. Too many times through history mass immagration has brought down a culture for us to ignore the signs of that happining here and in our own times. That our goverment here refuses to see the lessons of history is a bad thing. They somehow think we are greater in our nature as a country than thoes throughout history. Only time will tell if we fall by the wayside or wise up in our beliefs here in the U.S Mike L.

          • Dan az

            Mike
            You hit that one on the head.While I was reading it reminded me of the california migration to arizona when they found out that it would be cheaper for them to rebuild here.They over priced there houses so even they couldnt afford to buy them and brought the same attitude to here.Know that the economy bubble burst they moved on to who knows where and left hundreds of thousands of empty homes on the market and passed BS laws that matched theres and who is it that is left with all of this crap?Its know diffrent than what is going on at the border today,they come here to get as much as they can and ruin a states economy and pc laws.I now believe that they will never learn how to fix the messes that they leave behind just leave and let someone else clean it up.Sound familiar?

          • http://none Mike

            Dan, Thanks I was afraid I was getting a little windy on that one. But its true none the less. Look at what the islamic people are doing in europe at the moment. Its a perfect example of what I was talking about.Its the total distruction of the western ideas that were there. Now they enforce sharia laws there by default and if you dont like it they threaten to kill you. Its time for some guts in washinton or in 10 years we might have to change our national language to spanish. Mike L.

          • Bleh

            Dan az,
            Sorta sounds like MA people moving to NH because they do not like what is happening in their state.
            M-ssholes move up North to our fine state and say “well I had such and such back in MA and I expect it to be available here”. So they get it passed, at least in Northern MA (Southern NH) and soon our state goes to hell…
            How do I know this? Well, we have a Governor (born in MA) who has no clue how to balance a budget. He is supposedly been quoted as saying “cutting spending is irresponsible”. We have a Deficit because he increased spending in a recession and depended on money he had no right to, $100 million. That and he was still trying to steal the money, last I knew, that our Supreme Court has already ruled he can not touch… This will not fix our budget deficit, not even close. Oh, did I mention he spent tax payer dollars fighting to steal money that did not belong to him, thus helping expand our deficit needlessly?
            He is a moron and he got re-elected for the fourth time in our state. That does not say a whole lot for the “fine” people of NH in my book.

  • FlaJim

    Enforcement is the key. The only reform required is a return to an earlier system where only qualified immigrants were granted entry. We don’t really need a large influx of people with a grade 3 education who don’t – and refuse to learn – english.

    Previous waves of immigrants wanted to assimilate and worked damn hard to learn the language as a stepping stone. They never demanded schools to teach in their native languages or societies to recognize their various celebrations. They adopted America as America adopted them. Within one or two generations, they were inter-marrying with those who’d been here much longer. We don’t see any of that attitude amongst those in this invasion from the south.

    One final thought: If these invaders are so earnest and such hard workers, why aren’t they trying to change their own countries instead of mine?

    • Angel Wannabe

      Hear Hear!, Flajim!!!

    • Teresa

      Absolutely, and right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 45caliber

      I agree!

  • Mick

    RobertX 11/20/2010 08:07 AM

    Okay, lemme see. Drug cartels, you say? Well.. decriminalizing marijuana would remove the profit motive and effectively eradicate the drug cartels. Regulating and taxing marijuana would save all the expense of enforcement and incarceration while simultaneously providing a substantial revenue stream for both the feds and the states. Talk about reducing the deficit!

    Wow! One simple bit of legislation, and two major problems solved. And since the Rethugs are solidly for smaller government and less intrusion, decriminalization would fit right in with their stated philosophy.

    C’mon, Mr. Boehner and Mr. McConnell. What are you waiting for?
    *****************************************************************************
    RobertX ,,,Don’t you think that the Republican should regain the power before you criticize them, I know that january isn’t far away but the left still in total power .As for decriminalizing dope, our military certainly can if allowed decriminalize the Cartels before letting all of our citizens becoming pot heads.

  • Howard Roark

    My wife aqpplied to have her brother immigrate legally. it has been twenty one years and he has recently been contacted by the Dept of immigration to begin his LEGAL immigration.

    Why is it that some criminal that enters the country illegally gets to stay with the claims that they are honest (how can that be when they violated the law to be here)looking for a better life and hard working. are they saying that my wifes brother is not honest looking for a better life and not hard working. give me a break.

    • Doc Sarvis

      American employers are hiring these people. If Americans want to stop illegal immigrants (for the most part) Americans should stop hiring them.

      • Vigilant

        Whenever that’s been posted, have you found anyone to disgree with you?

  • Cliffystones

    “If these invaders are so earnest and such hard workers, why aren’t they trying to change their own countries instead of mine?”

    Amen FlaJim!

    While I understand those who come here to feed their families, that doesn’t make it right for them to do so. These folks are choosing the (current) path of least resistance, instead of fighting for better conditions back home. We should first build “The Mother of All Fences”, then quickly and kindly repatriate all illegals to their home countries. And for a “carrot” we should allow those who voluntarily return to be put at the head of the line with those trying to immigrate legally.

    After we clear up the current mess, make it mandatory prison time for anyone hiring illegal workers, including the owners and CEOs of the companies who do.

    • 45caliber

      I agree about the fence and the sending them home. However, I disagree about putting them at the head of the line. In fact, the ONLY people who should be allowed in should be those who have skills and education we need. That isn’t many. We simply do not have the increase in jobs we had years ago now. In fact, the jobs are vanishing as taxes and regulations encourage businesses to move to other countries.

  • http://com i41

    Another area to search and kick out is the colleges and all the radical pukes including professors that are “terrorists” idoits. Go to any univerity aand just look at and listen to some of the nut mutts that we allow in our country. More feel good crap go left feild.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I41
      I find many of the same traits on this site – just not from the left.

      • Vigilant

        Thanks for that great fact-filled rejoinder.

      • http://naver samurai

        We only have to look no farther than 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington to see these traits in action. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Angel Wannabe

    I don’t deny ANYONE coming here to America. But do it legally, and comply & respect our laws & rules. Do not demand, we change our Constitution to resemble what you sought refuge from.__If ya wanna be here, then Be American first!____at one time or another we were all immigrants.!__We have laws regarding immigration, it need only be enforced, how difficult can that be??? __the Problems occur, when lawmakers manipulate the law because of Politics, such in the case of the progressives!

  • Bud

    Only thing wrong is lack of enforcement of currant laws. Get tough and enforce them.

    • Doc Sarvis

      As I stated above, President Obama is doing more on enforcement than any recent president.

      • Vigilant

        And as I stated above, his efforts are mere window-dressing. The issue here is how to solve the problem, not cheerlead for your political favorite.

      • 45caliber

        When there are five times as many illegals here now as there were then, I’d assume that the INS can find more of them.

      • http://naver sook young

        Doc, have we taken our meds today? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        • Angel Wannabe

          sook young ___lol!!! :)

          • http://naver samurai

            Well, my wife just so happens to be an RN at the Center for Behavioral Medicine at our hospital. I’m glad she said that! It’s true and very funny! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Bleh

        As I stated above, Doc, what Obama is doing or has done is pointless.

    • 45caliber

      As far as I know we’re the only country in the world that does not use their military to seal their borders. It’s time we did.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Do you not consider the National Guard part of our nation;s military?

        • Angel Wannabe

          Ds, the last time I heard anything in regards to the National Guard being at the border, they were only there as a presence only and not to participate!??

          • Doc Sarvis

            If you think running two wars without increasing taxes on the populace is expensive try “sealing” the borders with the armed forces on top of that.

          • Vigilant

            Oh Oh! Here we go….the classic move to divert the subject away from illegal immigration and turn it into a hawk vs. dove issue.

          • Dan az

            Doc
            think target practice we could save allot of trees not having to use paper targets.Think Green.

          • Bleh

            How about bring the troops home and then put the troops on the border for their “Live fire Training exorcises”?
            You cut the cost of the wars and eliminate most of the cost for training and simply pay to seal the borders.
            Simple, yet effective.

        • 45caliber

          What National Guard on our border? Oblama promised 1500 – but so far none have showed up. Further, they are not to be allowed to guard the border – they are to simply handle some of the paper work.

          The last time we had actual military guarding our border was at least 10 years ago. I believe it was even longer. They were taken off when a Marine shot and killed a Mexican busy shooting at him and his team. The Mexican government was really upset about it. It was okay that the Mexican was shooting at them – it just wasn’t fair that they shot back!

  • dickhead

    and those who call “citizens of america” or the whites are from europe.. who boarded a ship and landed at ellis island.. then they were given residency from there to start a new life in the free world.. then how come these white bastards ignored the fact that their acenstors came here that way and they call themselves american.. u make me puke up blood.. and why cant they do the same in ellis island right now? why so much posturing and pandering? too much politics did this.. and with this may bring US down the drain.. then china becomes super power

    • 45caliber

      ALL people came to this country as immigrants – including the American Indians. So what? When they have become American, they work to help America, not some other country.

      We are against unlimited immigration now because we simply do not have hte infrastructure and jobs available for any of them. There are only so many taco stands that can be built too. When Ellis Island was still open, we had room for all of them and needed them. Now we don’t.

      I also dislike your language. You should know better. Cursing is not supposed to be allowed. I suspect as soon as someone who runs this sees your post, it will disappear. I certainly hope so.

      • http://naver samurai

        His name kind of says it all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          That response was for dickhead.

    • Bleh

      American Citizens are not just “white”. Americans are made up of all races. That is why we were once called the “Melting pot”.
      I suggest you look the term up and get with the times.

  • eddie47d

    Control the border and enforce workplace status. As long as the Mexican Government allows the Cartels to have more power and status than the authorities the drug problem will only get worse. Even our Mafia wasn’t as violent as the Mexican kingpins. Most illegals have to pay the coyotes to get across the border so they are broke when they get here. They get used and abused on both sides of the border but I guess the American dreams is worth it all. Some of these illegals can’t afford to pay to get across so they agree to smuggle drugs for the cartels. The illegals get nothing for their efforts and the cartels make a killing. I put the biggest share of the illegal problem squarely on the shoulders of the Mexican government. Secondly on American companies who knowingly hire illegals and thirdly on lax border security and forged documents.

    • http://Alaska Wild Bill

      Eddie
      We finally agree on something.Your statement was spot on.
      Wild Bill
      Alaska

      • Dan az

        Hey Wild Bill
        Dont get to excited he will change with the lack of medication soon!

        • Angel Wannabe

          Dan Az, LMAO! :)

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      From vaksal,eddie47d,i finally agree with something you posted,just shows on some points we share the same outlook.good post.

    • Angel Wannabe

      yeah I gotta hand it too ya there, I but I didn’t wanns to anything for fear ya’d get a big head about it!!!!

    • 45caliber

      For once, I agree with you on this. I think any company that knowingly hires illegals should be forced to pay a huge fine and the person(s) involved with the hiring go to jail.

    • http://none Mike

      Eddie, Good post sir. We can certinly agree on some points. Its too bad our political representives cant or wont see it this way. Mike L.

    • http://naver sook young

      Eddie, my husband and I also agree with you on this matter. Let’s try to agree more. More can be done by putting heads together than by standing on political beliefs. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • http://?? Joe H.

        eddie,
        By heck, I agree with you for once myself!!!

    • DennisC

      Hell eddie47d, The mexican presidents wifes brother is the leader of the 2nd largest drug cartell in mexico, so i guess we all know what he stand for, hey maybe doesn’t have a choice, LOL ya right, The mexican president comes here and cries & bitches on the white house lawn about how we don’t allow the illegals in our country and how wrong we are,OOOOO You bad bad Americans, The real problem he is worried about is if we stop the crossing of the border, in turn we stop Billion of American dollars going back to mexico.

  • Roger

    well mi friends
    you do not see chinese or black or “american citizens or muslims or people from other countries pickng crop?? that is becouse no body wants to do those jobs go out ther all the people that are unempolyed get a job there are jobs available in the fields go out ther and work
    people that come here to Dan Diego from Somaila, Irak, Iran,
    go straight to the goverment offices and get help(moneyyyy)
    get 1100.00 per month for apartment and money for there family
    and they get here with a green card and SS# just becouse the U S A invanded ther country we ara at fault???
    they just waith to get money from the goverment and open a licor stor or gas station
    they are not out there picking crop like the immigrants from mexico, yes mexico ,, not guatemala not el salvador not honduras just mexico
    the rest of the latinos are in the hotels and restaurants
    yes picking up after you “american citizens”
    if the econimy is soooo badd got clean toilets pick up crop
    work in a elder care hospital cleaning and showering the elder
    those are the jobs Ilegal immingrant do…
    yes and they are from mexico
    not chinese not muslims not jap not ireland not canadian
    just mexican ….
    have you seen the Colbert repont on congress???
    look at what he had to say on the matter ….

    Thank and think about it

    • Teresa

      How dare you sit there and say that there are no Americans that will do the jobs. I grew up on a dairy farm and shovelled sh@#, worked the fields and know what it is like. This also keeps the rates down in doing so by hiring them at low pay cost, which is why they are hired. And the reason they take the jobs is BECAUSE they are illegal and they get paid cash money to send home, no taxes…etc. But to say that Americans will not do the jobs is ridicilous!

      • 45caliber

        You are quite correct. Many of those jobs “Americans won’t take” were filled with new workers – youths just graduated from school. Now the illegals take them – sometimes for less than minimum – because they also draw welfare and all the other benefits as well. And the youths can’t get jobs and are forced to continue to live on Mom and Dad.

    • Jeep

      Seriously? The “Colbert repont on congress” (sic). Is that the best you can do? Sheeesh.

      • Vigilant

        LMAO! I know, to guys like Roger, Colbert is serious news reporting. Hilarious, isn’t it?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Roger,
      I don’t know where you got your befuddled ideas from, but it sure isn’t true life!!
      The ladies that took care of my mother were all either Black or white!! They came to my house daily and showered her, cleaned her room, made her bed, and washed her clothes!! For this we paid 150 a month! We never had a single Mexican show up and when she finally went into a home, all the people there were either Black, White or Asian!! so don’t give me your BS and try LIVING a little of what you are trying to BS your way through!!

  • http://LibertyAlert CSchutz

    just build the darn border fence and have the militia deport ALL of the illegal aliens. The Texas Rangers would also love to be helping.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      CSchultz, Did you read Roger’s comment or did you intentionally ignore it? Who in your unemployed community would be eager to do all those jobs Roger has identified?

      • 45caliber

        Most of the unemployed in my area would take them – at least until they could find something better. But they aren’t offered the chance.

        • http://none Mike

          45, Its also cheeper on companies to hire illeagles to do the work because of health insurance and minnimum wage laws. Untill we make it more expensive for said companies to hire illeagles(through fines and imprisonment) They will continue to do so. Mike L.

        • 45caliber

          Mike:

          My son works for Tyson’s in AR. They hire a lot of illegals on purpose; in fact, they pay a $1000 bonus to get them instead of hiring locals. They pay for the insurance, the same wages, etc. as the American workers … but they want them for the power over them. If they want the people to work 7/12′s, the Americans will for a time and then refuse. These people can’t refuse when the company tells them to either work or be sent back to where they come from.

          Further, even though the company pays for Workmen’s Comp for them, they actually don’t use it for them. If a worker is injured (they are mainly the ones who cut up the chickens), they take them to the hospital and then call INS to report finding an illegal. The INS comes in, pays the hospital bill, and sends them home. When they are will, if they can still work, they can come back. If they can’t work, who cares? They certainly don’t.

          • http://none Mike

            45, Yea I herd about tyson and their policies. Thats wrong too. The plants here I am talking about are the recycling plants and our 2 or 3 major mushroom growers. They bus these people in and pay a cash stipend for their work. When business gets slow they get rid of them withought haveing to pay any unemployment or taxes for their services. These folks cant complain either because if they do they are deported. Either case = this leaglized slavery.Where the slave is paid a little money for their services.Then disposed of leagly through immigration laws.Untill the point where the employer faces jail time for this behavior it will only continue to be profitable for them to operate this way. Just think of it this way the southern plantation owners fed and housed their slaves. These companies are now doing the equivelent through the wage system. And its probly cheeper than the old fashioned way of feeding clothing and houseing them. Mike L.

  • Curly

    I keep reading and hearing people say our immigration system is broken. But no one every says WHY they think it is broken. I have inferred from reading and listening these last few years that people who think the system is broken believe that is the case because everyone who wants to live and work in the US is not immediately granted permission to do so. When I hear that this land does not belong to Europeans because they stole it from the Indians, that we are all illegal immigrants, or that the land that had previously belonged to Mexico was stolen from them, etc., I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. How lame! How sad! How WRONG!! Tell it to the judge, folks. This nation, it’s borders, its laws are the only defensible legal position recognized. Study history and find out why. I don’t have the space or the patience to explain it.

    So it’s time to confront head on the false notion that everyone who wants to live and work here should be able to do it: Everyone CANNOT be admitted to live and work in the US who wants to do so. It will not work. There is NO RIGHT to live and work in the US. This WAS a nation of immigrants, but the nation is now full. Our infrastructure does not even meet our current needs, and simply cannot sustain huge numbers of people coming into this country. And the illegals who violate our borders, our sovereignty and our national security by their illegal entry or by overstaying their visas will cause a breakdown in all of our systems – economic, educational, health, safety, utilities, transportation, sanitation, nutritional, etc.

    I do think that reform is needed, however. I propose:
    1. The Constitution be altered to eliminate birthright citizenship; eliminate the “right” to education, health care, etc., for non-citizens; only duly registered and approved non-residents are allowed to attend US post-secondary education institutions, own US property or have a US bank account.
    2. Eliminate dual citizenship. Most people don’t know that Mexico demanded dual citizenship for their people, so they can use a Mexican passport to enter and leave Mexico. This also means Mexicans who become US citizens do not have to renounce allegiance to Mexico. NO WAY! Choose the ONE country to which you are loyal. If that’s not the US — GET OUT!
    3. Revise the visa system to eliminate the visa lottery and eliminate family re-unification visas. Expand and improve temporary guest-worker permits that do NOT lead to citizenship, must be renewed every other year, and is limited to a total of 14 years. Temporary guest workers pay ALL taxes but may bring family and enroll their children in public school.
    4. Permanent resident visas with a path to citizenship should be limited to highly skilled and educated workers and their immediate families.
    5. Criminalize illegal entry and over-staying or otherwise violating the terms of one’s visa.
    6. Combine affordable-scale deportation with attrition by enforcement.
    7. Establish and enforce a national ID card system, which utilizes biometric data.
    8. Erect physical and virtual barriers to protect our borders.
    9. Violating US borders should constitute an act of terrorism.

    That’s my idea of Comprehensive Immigration Reform!

    • Teresa

      wonderful homework….

    • barbm

      even if they don’t eliminate the birthright citizenship, that does NOT make the parents citizens. send them home. they can take their children with them or leave them here to be reared by american citizens. if they were looking for a btter life, they’d find work and quit living off welfare. they get more benefits than our own.

      • 45caliber

        At one time, (when I was in high school) the law said NO ONE could have dual citizenship. If a child was born in our country, it did not mean that child could remain here (or the parents) if they were sent back. At eighteen the child could then go to a US embassy and declare allegence for the US and become a US citizen – but would lose the citizenship of the country they left. Further the family would have no right to come here except as visitors under special tourist visas. And they couldn’t go back to their home country except the same way.

        I prefer it that way.

    • 45caliber

      If everyone could come here simply because they could, we’d have a bigger populatin than China does – on a lot smaller land mass. And most of them would be no better off than in their home country because there wouldn’t be enough jobs and not enough welfare money to give them. But some people simply can’t see that.

      Incidently, as far as being a country of immigrants – there were at least three waves of American Indians who immigrated from the Far East. There are no known humans who originated in the Western Hemisphere. So even the “modern” Indians are actually descended from immigrants too. And no Indian tribe considered ownership of land until they were taught that by the white men – so it never belonged to them in the first place.

      • Dan az

        45
        Thats correct the navaho (spelling sucks)are one of them that I know of that are here in AZ.

    • 45caliber

      I’d add another thing to your list.

      No one would be allowed in even as a temporary worker UNLESS THEY ALREADY HAVE A JOB HERE. If they lose it, they lose their card although changing to another job would be allowed.

      And no one with a temporary card can draw welfare or any other “free” service.

    • http://none Mike

      Curly, Good post all but #7 there. We dont need a national I.D this would make it far too easy for us to be singled out if we did ever have to fight a tyrany here in the states. Mike L.

      • 45caliber

        Mike:

        What I expect them to come up with is a chip in your arm or body. Pets have them now. In fact, some areas are convincing people to have them put into their kids so, supposedly, they can be more easily found if kidnapped. (I’m not sure how since as far as I know, there aren’t any chip readers out there to spot them.)

        I foresee a time when the only way you can move about, hold a job, or even enter a store to buy something will require a chip and a reader to identify you.

        • Angel Wannabe

          It’s called the mark of the Beast_45!

        • http://none Mike

          45 and Angel, Have you herd of nano technologies? If they wanted a chip in you they could put it in this way. You go to the doctor or a hospital. They give you a shot that contains about 10 nano bots.And every time you walk through the local wal-marts rf scanners they record the information these bots are programmed with. These technologies are just about advanced enough now that they can record bio information about you now through outside sources.Such as raido waves and electrical impulses.In otherwords go get a catscan and they can be imprinted with your medical records. Dont mean to scare the pants off you but this is comming far faster than I would like to see myself. Mike L.

  • Lil H

    I am new at this and was reading several comments. First to Sook Young Now you speak about legality? If you were illegal here than you also broke the law at one time right? You out of all people KNOW it’s not that easy to come to this country legally. You are fortunate to have become a legal resident and I guess now a US Citizen but for a while you were on the same boat as all the people that now YOU are trying to judge. Another thing I doubt that any of you know since Mexicans are always the target and are blamed for everything that Mexico does NOT get as many visas as other countries and political assylum is very very hard as for people from other countries. Also not only Mexicans cross the Mexico/US border, all kinds of nationalities use these borders. One last thing drugs if we didnot have the consumers there would not be a need for supply. I am a US Citizen that has seen both sides of the “coin”

    • 45caliber

      Lil:

      Sook young was NOT in the same boat as the illegals here. She was legal to begin with. I have a daughter-in-law who is also here legally. She has none of the worries that the illgals who slip across the border have. It also cost several thousand dollars and took well over a year as it was. It will cost several thousand more dollars. Why should we feel sorry for those who sneek across the boarder? The illegals coming in are called illegal for a reason: they all broke the immigration law when they entered regardless of what other laws they make have broken since then.

      Further, the reason we mention Mexico so much is because Mexico is where the majority of them come from.

    • Dan az

      Lilly
      If you would bother to actually look up facts then you would know that mexico does get the majority of visa’s do to NAFTA and if you would bother to look up what Sook Young has been saying in her post then you would know that she is more of a patriot than you are.As far as drugs being needed here then you really have been living in a cave.The drug pushers at all of our schools have been corrupting our young since the sixties that I know of and has been draining our system from drug abuse.That PC bs dosent fly here so go back to just reading what is said here rather than trying to form an opinion on something that you are apparently uninformed of. Thank You

  • chuckb

    isn’t it strange how these illegals and their sympathizers post on this page, “:the white bastards?” if the american people are so bad what are you doing here?. we have more than enough field hands and yet you keep pouring in. they can’t live in their own country because of the political parties they vote in to power, so they come here so they can vote for people like jerry brown (illegally) and turn this nationm into the same kind of country they left. when the frijoles and tortillas run out here where do you go? they have no 14th amendment in canada so dropping your little machacha or machacho won’t get you citizenship there. go home chili pepper and build your own country and we should deport all your amigos and put the military on the border to stop the world from rushing in.

  • Roger

    well teresa you are one in every 10 that can do that job but here in San Diego that there are families that are goverment sponsor to come here and go straight to de unemployment line or get food stamps and a monthly check for freeeee (middle estern contries ) they do not get jobs like everybody else, are we at fault that those counrties have ties to the US? or that they can apply for visas for the parents and then sponsor ther kids. Also they come here and they learn on how to take advantaje of the system by applying for WIC food stamps medicare and medical
    also one time I was @ the medical ofice for my mother she is 85 yr old
    and @ the window there was a african american girl applying for medical well there was 3 generations mother, dougther and grandmother applying all at the same time for medical benefits!!! al tru
    y they do not get a normal job!!!!
    the doughter had a cell phone and 2 kids ald nice an clean al @ tax payers expense
    also curly you are correct fixxx the immigration system
    there ara a lot of jobs that american wont do!!!
    also same restriction for all the countries not only for mexico
    apply all laws the same way with everybody, canadians brits, chinese. irak, iran arabs, central america, all of them

    Roger

  • 45caliber

    One of the real problems with illegal aliens (not immigrants since most don’t intend to stay here) is that the Dems have bent the laws so far that they wrap back onto themselves in their efforts to provide a “reform” that actually grants them full citizenship without real expenses or problems.

    If we actually began to enforce the laws, they would be a lot less likely to remain here. After all, they would be sent home and those coming across again would be more likely to go to jail. Those who are criminals – and many are despite what the liberals say about them – would have to serve jail terms instead of being sent back home for a vacation before coming back across again.

  • Ray

    The unsecure borders are not a law enforcement issue. They are rightly the province of national defense. The Constitution mandates that the states be defended from invasion. Clearly, the Federal Government is willfully negligent in this responsibility. Law enforcement’s immigration responsibility is inside the borders. The Border Patrol should be under the jurisdiction of the Department of Defense. I would ask anyone to give me a CONSTITUTIONAL argument that proves me wrong… But you may only use the the U.S. Constitution without referring to court cases. I defy anyone to show where the current system of judicial precedence (case law) is authorized under it.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    The only thing that is broken about our immigration policy is the enforcement of our immigration laws. If you enforce our immigration laws you will reduce crime, increase job opportunities for our citizens, reduce pressures on all social programs by availability and cost, and decrease state and federal deficits. Nah, we don’t want to do that, lets reform the laws and give amnesty to all the illegals so our crime rates can keep going up, illegals take any open jobs for a lower pay scale bringing down the average pay scale on all jobs, keep pressure on all social programs so more people will be deprived of them while their costs increases, and the expense these illegals cost our entitlement programs keep the deficits increasing both on the state and federal levels until the entire country is bankrupt, a much better idea, don’t you think.

  • http://INTERNET CORKEY MONTGOMERY

    REFORM IS NESSARY, IMGRATION MUST BE MAID STRONG AND MUST BE A GIVE A WAY PROGRAM. BODERS MUT BE EXIT USE TILL WE CLEANED OUT ILLIAGELS OUT OF AMERICIA AND THAT I HOPE INCLUDES OBAMA. MIGRANTS WORKERS MUST BE TRACKED AND PUT OUT OF COUNTEY WHEN THEY DONT HAVE WORK. COMPANYS THAT HIR ILLEAGELS MUST ME FINED BIG TIME. HOPE FINES ARE BIG ENOUGHT TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.

    CORKEY MONTGOMERY

  • DennisC

    We will see.

  • Dan az

    Know dont get all up in arms but if you tag them like they want to do to us then you wouldnt need to ask for their papers.I know I wouldnt do it to my dog but you got to admit that if they didnt have a tag then they get deported.Sorry just thinking out loud.

  • http://none Mike

    If you really want to get tecnical about things let me run this by you. Say you are a forigen entity that wants to open a plant or buisness here in the United States. You contact the local goverment and express an intrest in a pice of property. That local goverment approves the sale of this property to you reguardless of the proper owners of said property. Local goverment goes before a commity and says Farmer Browns property is an eyesore and should be condemed to make way for this new plant or buisness. They quickly pass out the money that was paid to them for buying other councile members And farmer Brown is evicted from his property. Meanwhile said overseas entity goes to congress and demands a 5 or 10 year exemption from taxation”For the privlage of creating jobs here in the states”. Congressmen are quickly paid for the vote on said company and Congressman Willy gets to come home and say look I brought jobs to our county. And the sheeple gobble it up. Meanwhile said company or entity is laughing all the way to the bank because they just got everything they wanted from Willy and the other good ole boys. Now not only can they earn money from the sales of the product produced. They do so tax free. This money is never seen back here in the states other than what they pay the employees. Which ismost of the time below the usual wage for said jobs. Everyone wins excepet the united states. Example 2 Forigen immagrant(leagle)decides he or she wants to open a business here in the states. They go to the local small buisness office and apply for a loan. Small business officer bends over backwards for them to recive the loan.But this isnt good enough for them either they go to the goverment and demand the same tax breaks that large company just got. Congress noodles bowing and cowtowing to the immagrant go Ok lets do the deal.Immagrant now works to get the entire family fast tracked into the country so they can all share in the spoils of the winning in congress. The looser here is me and you because this company now dosent hire anyone but their famlies and other immagrants. If you dont belive this just go to your local small business office and try to get these same perks for yourself Not going to happen. Mike L.

    • Dan az

      Mike Good examples you need to come here and check it out we need more people like you!

      • http://none Mike

        Dan I have some online friends that live in Kingman I would have to hit the mountians there somewhere. I am too well insulated for the desert :)Mike L.

        • Dan az

          Mike Im just up the road from there about 5100 feet williams is just 15 more miles farther and Im sure there is something there for ya.What type of work did you do?

          • http://none Mike

            Med service. I did durable medical equipment such as chairs hospital beds and dibetic shoes. Certified in Jazzy chair repair and durco hospital beds. I couldent right now though takeing care of my sick mother(alzheimers). But really have thought about moveing lately its been really bad where I live the unemployment rate is near 20% in this small town area. Mike L.

          • Dan az

            Mike
            sorry to hear about your mother wish you the best buddy.If you ever get up this way stop by and say hey.By the way where in caly are you at?I was raised in southern cal. above palm springs at about 5300 feet and lived in northern cal. also.

          • http://none Mike

            Tennessee here a little town called Etowah . Kinda inbetween Knoxville and Chattonuga. Nestled right in the foothills of the smokies. Its nice but dying I am afraid. Mike L,

          • http://none Mike

            I just read alot so was up on Californias issues. Bad habit I guess Have tons and tons of books. As well as net research. Mike L.

          • Dan az

            mike it is late and I thought for some reason that you were from califonia oh well I’m calling it a night!

          • http://none Mike

            Later good talking to you and sleep well. Mike L.

  • Bleh

    For a quick see about why current immigration levels, not counting illegal aliens, is unsustainable:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

  • Jim Whiteker

    One place to start in regard to the illegals would be to freeze all money orders and wires to Mexico. No mon’ no fun. Yes, pack trains would be used to spirit money southward-as it is already, but confiscations would be had. Now, with unverified muslim women breezing thru the airport, one wonders who has their finger in THAT cash flow out of the country. Jimbo

  • James

    The Legislative Branch makes law, the Executive Branch executes it. If Congress passes more stringent immigration laws, there is no reason to think the president would enforce them, anymore than he has enforced current law. The president should be impeached for not doing his job.

  • James

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio “America’s Toughest Sheriff” (Maricopa County Arizona) said: “I’m attacked almost daily as a ‘racist’ in the media – and by radicals like Rev. Al Sharpton – because of my work to enforce the rule of law. One local newspaper even went so far as to publish a political cartoon of Governor Brewer and me wearing Nazi uniforms with Nazi salutes…And a Mexican Drug Cartel has placed a $1 million bounty on my head!”
    Arizona’s ‘immigration enforcement law’ which attempts to enforce federal law is being challenged in court by the federal government. Neither Persident Bush nor President Obama has ever enforced our immigration laws. Sheriff Arpaio has arrested more illegal mexican aliens than the entire federal border patrol. With Americans being overwhelmingly on Sheriff Arpaio’s side, it has become painfully obvious that our presidents are answering to some higher power.

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