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Illinois On Its Own After Wisconsin Allows Concealed Carry

July 5, 2011 by  

Illinois is the only state in the country that does not allowed concealed carry.Now that Wisconsin has allowed for residents to carry a concealed weapon in public, Illinois stands alone as the final State to object to legalizing concealed handguns, The Associated Press reports.

The State will now be the center of attention for gun-rights advocacy groups, such as the National Rifle Association (NRA) and its allies, the news source stated.

“We never give up,” Andrew Arulanandam, public affairs director for the National Rifle Association told the media outlet. “We’ve been around 140 years as an organization. If we don’t get something this time around, we’re going to work until we get it.”

The news source reports that those on both sides of the argument agree Chicago will be the deciding factor in the dispute.

“It’s about as anti-gun a city as one could find,” Harry Wilson, a gun control expert at Virginia’s Roanoke College, told the news provider.

New York City faced similar problems, but approved concealed carry with slight variations in the law unique to the city, according to the Carry Concealed advocacy group.

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  • s c

    What’s the big deal here? If you understand Chicago politics [when you say politicians, say criminals, and when you say criminals, say politicians] then that immoral, anti-American insanity makes sense.
    In Chicago, criminals come before regular citizens. Criminals have more rights than citizens, and the idea that a citizen might use a weapon against a criminal is ‘too much to bear.’ It would set a precedent, and no right-thinking Chicago criminal politician wants anything to do with gun-toting citizens (next they’ll expect criminal politicians to live within their budgets).
    You see, Al Capone isn’t really dead. He’s just back in the shadows, waiting for the rest of Chicago’s criminals to join him in his place of honor as one of Chicago’s greatest leaders.

    • Ed

      Gee, I wonder if the crime with weapons statistics are MUCH lower in Illinois compared to those other states which do allow responsible people to carry concealed weapons! My bet is that the “black market” for weapons is REALLY HUGE in Illinois. What would the criminals do without access to guns,especially if they were NOT sure the person they were robbing, or the woman they intend to rape, etc actually HAD a gun to protect themselves? HMMMMM

      • wandamurline

        Don’t know, but there was a bank here in a small Texas city that had gotten robbed three times until they put a sign in the window that said permitted gun carriers welcome in our bank…hasn’t been a robbery since and that was three years ago.

        • Bob from Calif.

          Just goes to show that most criminal slimeballs have no backbone unless they think that they have the upper hand.

    • 45caliber


      It isn’t that the criminals in Chicago are placed ahead of good citizens. It’s just that the criminals are scared that they might be shot if they allowed their victims to arm themselves.

    • lkar

      This is a little off subject, but it does tie into gun control.
      I was watching the DVD of Battle LA. I knew from the start that this was going to be an urban warfare flick. About halfway through the movie, one of the civilians picks up a gun and shoots the alien invader to protect his son. Prior to this spot in the movie, the veiwers were shown dead bodies of civilians and the like. I made a comment to my family, “I wonder why more civilians were not out fighting these invaders?” My son said, “Dad, this is California. The liberals took all the guns away!” Brilliant. Citizens without guns cannot defend themselves. This is the liberal agenda.
      Remember, true gun control is being able to hit your target!

  • Bob

    The simple, verifiable facts are that most criminals are democrats or clients/products (eg.:welfare parasites, sociopaths) of democrat controlled welfare programs and the lieberal “me first, I’m entitled” culture. The democrats who control Illinois are not about to place their supporters in any kind of danger from the decent people on which these democrat clients prey. If a few decent, hard working people have to be robbed, raped, or murdered; that is the price that the scum of the democrat party are willing to pay.

    • 45caliber

      It amazes me how many of these welfare criminals actually have entire families who engage in criminal behavior – except for Sunday mornings, of course, when they all go to church. To them, it isn’t crime – it is “business”.

  • JimRed

    “…Wisconsin has allowed for residents to carry a concealed weapon in public…”

    We’ll see about that. Residents of New Jersey are also “allowed” to carry, if properly permitted. But in practice very few (except the rich and famous or politically connected, same thing I guess) are ever issued a permit. Imagine the outrage of having to obtain a “permit” to exercise your first amendment rights; why should the second be different?

    • 45caliber

      The last time I checked, you can get a concealed permit in NYC ONLY if you are a policeman or a politician. Supposedly a citizen can but very few are handed out. Those go to people who carry a lot of money due to their jobs and have politicial friends. It is illegal to even own a gun there without some sort of permit – which is very difficult to get. I understand it isn’t much easier in NJ.

      • TML

        Yeah… those states are “may” issue states… they do need to change.

    • TML

      I think most of us would agree with that, and in fact, you do not need a permit to own (keep and bare) firearms in your home, and on your property. However, the notion of carrying a firearm in public, concealed or not, may reasonably constitute the need for a “permit” being issued upon completion of a test with regards to the proper use and safety of firearms, and to become aware of how to deal with restrictions (for example: private businesses which say “no firearms allowed on these premises”)… and other things of that nature. I’ve seen people who carry firearms who have never even shot the weapon before, and that can be more dangerous than not carrying one at all.

      It depends greatly on the requirments of the permit, at that point, I suppose. A $100, and a 12 hour class, is the only requirement in Texas, for example (aside from not having a felony record, of course). So, it’s quite easy to get one, and not limited to the rich and famous.

      Personally, I think requiring anyone who wishes to carry a deadly weapon in public, to take essential firearms basic, at least… is very reasonable. You do not need a permit to own and carry arms in your hosue and on your property.

      BTW… actually, you DO have to get permits for protests, which is a permit for your First Amendment right… so, comence the outrage, because that doesn’t have any reasonable basis to it.

    • ObieTex

      I agree. “…shall not be impinged” means it’s not the government’s decision. I would love to see USSC decision on this issue.

  • Big Daddy

    I agree with JimRed. Why does the state have the right to rell you that you can freely exercise your second ammendment right if you get their approval first and pass their tests.

    • Cawmun Cents

      What it comes down to is the word in the 2nd amendment that reads”regulated”.That is a word that prgressive liberals can define at their leisure.Therefore they will rule and regulate you from cradle to grave,and damn you if you dont like the idea.Freedom is some ideology of the past that Americans want to reclaim,rather than one that they can live out today.That is progressivism to a tee.Progressivism is the need to micro-manage control,and have full spectrum domination…at least politically.Otherwise their boardroom ideas wont come to fruition.And that would be tragic to a progressive.I believe the wise woman who died soon afterward said,”Freedom is just another word for nothin’ left to lose.”-CC.

      • 45caliber

        Wasn’t that Janice Joplin who said that?

        • independant thinker

          Actualy it was Kris Kristoferson Janice is the one who popularized it when her recording of his song became a hit.

          • 45caliber

            Okay, thanks. I’ve heard Janice sing it too many times.

          • independant thinker

            Like I said she is the one who took the song and made it popular. I didn’t know Kristoferson had written it until the late 80′s or early 90′s myself.

    • James

      I would just add, the second amendment is not the right to bear arms. It is a restriction on the federal government. The Illinois State counstitutional counterpart (Art. 2, Sec. 22) reads: “Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
      If we don’t get that straight in our heads, that Chicago has violated their state’s constitution, we’ll never get anywhere. Commensurate with that, in McDonald v. Chicago (2010), the Supreme Court added the right to possess a handgun to the “liberty” of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. So, either way, Chicagoans have the right to bear a handgun, subject to the police power of that State.

      • Jag

        We are born with a preexisting, God given right to own and use the firearms of our choice, in the defense of our families, or property. So many of our citizens have trouble understanding that rights don’t come from a benevolent government; you are either born with them, are they don’t exist. Anything given by a benevolent government can just as easily be taken away.

        • James

          Jag, I agree. I tend to blame the NRA and other gun groups who always refer to the right as a Second Amendment Right, and never once refer to any state constitution. While not untrue, it has convinced many Americans that the Second Amendment IS the right. Another group that does that is Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA), which later became the Second Amendment Foundation.
          We have the unalienable right to bear arms, it is not dependent on any document for its existence PERIOD!

  • Ron Hoffman

    Why don’t we use the “Before & After” crime statistics on the other 49 states?
    I am sure that publicizing the violent crimes in these states will wake up a lot of people. I would like to know if anyone (Who) has these violent crime B&A statistics, and why they are not widely circulated…

    • 45caliber

      They are not widely circulated because it proved that the liberal “proof” of guns causing crime is wrong. I’ve heard several states including Texas has had crime drop but I don’t know where you could find the data.

  • Thor

    It is difficult to figure why progressives can’t seem to adopt a consistent view of what it means to achieve genuine equality. They want everyone–theoretically–to have the same means and look to wealth redistribution to achieve it. When it comes to the principle of one’s ability to protect himself, the progressive anti-gun ideology is the diametric opposite: when everyone is disarmed, no one has an equal ability to protect himself. And that fundamental fact is exponentially disproportionate to the sophistication of the method of defense. Hand to hand, no two people are equal because no two are equal in strength and skill; sword to sword few are equal in skill; gun to gun–everyone is equal until shots are fired, at which time determination, only marginally enhanced with skill, will determine the outcome. The only real disparity arises in how we are armed at the time of confrontation. This is why in a society armed equally armed with its government the governors answer to the people and a disarmed society answers to its governors.

    Concealed carry is just one of many principle indicators of a truly free society–but a mere token in a time of genuine trouble. The wisdom of the founders was also to rely on citizens to augment a small standing army in times of war and to depend on them to supply their own arms–arms meant to be on par with those used by the military. Since 1934, this principle has been vastly compromised by statutory restrictions–in direct proportion, one might add, to the rise of socialism and communism within our own borders. It is perhaps an acceptable line of demarcation at which the government first acknowledged a real and growing fear of the American people.

  • Raggs

    Raum emanuel will never allow the law abiding citizens of Chicago to carry anything other than a target on their backs.

  • jim

    just a note about the commie police state of nj. 1)if your not a cop or politician, no gun permit! 2) i applied for a c&r fed. lic. which i was approved for by the batf. get a phone call later from the batf, can’t use the c&r in the commie police state of nj. the great commie police chief sez so. nice i can’t have a fed lic. in nj.3) if you cap some in your house, the piece better be on file with the local leo’s or your in deep doo doo. oh they will take it “for evidence”, forget ever seeing it again, it will end up in someones collection, not yours.

    • Pat

      You are 100% right! If you stand quietly and listen, you can hear New Jersey suck !

  • jibbs

    The “Dick Act of 1902″ was upheld by the Supreme Court, making all gun laws null and void.

  • B

    I rather that Illinois, especially Chicago, not have any gun-rights.

    This way, the rest of America can see how the Socialist state ends up in due time.


    • 45caliber

      You have a point. A good bad example is hard to disclaim.

    • Bagworm

      I live in Illinois and certainly hope you are wrong. I think a better solution would be to chisel Cook County out of the state and push it off into Lake Michigan. Along with all their crooked politicians. That would clean up the whole state and the rest of us could live like citizens of this country.

    • James

      B. I think what Chicago needs is to be ringed by about a million Illinois citizens all armed with full-automatic weapons. A favorite in Korea was the M2 .30 caliber carbine, with 30-round magazines.

  • Rick

    Just food for thought here:

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
    During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!
    With guns, we are ‘citizens;’ without them, we are ‘subjects’.
    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens
    The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.


    o Russia during Kruschef also backed down on an invasion of the US since everyone was armed. At least his son said so.
    And two other very low crime countries now are Czechoslovakia (can’t spell it) and Israel, believe it or not! In fact, Israel has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the world – despite PA.
    Israel demands that in every group of eight people or less at least one MUST be armed. All you have to do there is go the nearest police station and tell them what kind of gun you want and you get it.
    After Russia pulled out of Chech. crime was rampant. The police finally gave up and offered free guns to anyone who wanted to protect himself. Crime came almost to a standstill there.

  • george bennett

    Wrong,N.Y state(Westchester co.) will not give out cc permit,unless you are rich or famous.

  • Scarefacesquirrel.

    For those interested there simply is no better resource on firearms FACT’s than:
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    Undisputable proof “More Guns = Less Crime”.
    Very interesting read.

  • i41

    When Walgreen fired the clerk who shot a robber, I quit shopping there, same goes for any store that wigs out over CCW workers. I will not shop in Wal-Mart for their bs views on several issues, gun control is one, and their PCed crap. There is never problems with armed citizens, but the unarmed citizens and government dictators and the marxist/communist democrat party bas-ard f–ks, we have in this country in office and agencies with out any controls. Hillary signed off on stopping pistol ownership and government gun control, the niggardly muslim Onumnuts under his executive orders folllowing the UN mandate 21 to stop all private land ownership in the world, which was done while every dorks eyes were on Wienergate. Call any of the elected simple bas-ards of any party to see what the implications on our country will be, no marxist/communist democrat will answer or call back. My senator and reps, called back in 3 hours and still didn’t know what the jug eared puke had signed on to. The dumb slubs will vote for any marxist/communist democrap that is a confermined liar and a tax cheat.

  • jopa

    i41; Well I see that those Charm School classes are working out for you.Congratulations now that you have learned to control your hate and use of profanity.Perhaps now the Chief will let you back on the reservation.You are not totally cured but getting closer.

    • 45caliber


      Charm schools simply teach you how to say “Fantastic!” when you hear a lie instead of “Bull S**t!”

      • Jay

        Well said 45, and so damn true!!!

  • i41

    Charm school also taught me to smile before I kick the s–t out of some liberal dumb azz. You are probable just as worthless as a pacing piss ant at a rodeo. Marxist/communist democrats only understand extreme force to get the vacum between the ears to produce something like a sound of a rock, thrown down a deep canyon.

    • Jay

      i41, good one bud. LOL!!!

  • Loki

    Screw the charm school!!! It’s time for the BULLS EYE school!!!

  • Jay

    Quotes on the Right to Bear Arms

    Don’t think of it as `gun control’, think of it as `victim disarmament’. If we make enough laws, we can all be criminals.

    The possession of arms by the people is the ultimate warrant that government governs only with the consent of the governed.
    – Jeff Snyder

    As the Founding Fathers knew well, a government that does not trust its honest, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens with the means of self-defense is not itself worthy of trust. Laws disarming honest citizens proclaim that the government is the master, not the servant, of the people.
    – Jeff Snyder

    When only cops have guns, it’s called a “police state”.
    – Claire Wolfe, “101 Things To Do Until The Revolution”

    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed – unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
    – James Madison, The Federalist Papers

    “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”
    – Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188

    “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.”
    – Mohandas Gandhi, An Autobiography, pg 446

    “One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms.”
    – Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840

    “The bearing of arms is the essential medium through which the individual asserts both his social power and his participation in politics as a responsible moral being…”
    – J.G.A. Pocock, describing the beliefs of the founders of the U.S.

    Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest.
    – From the Declaration of the Continental Congress, July 1775.

    “As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives [only] moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion to your walks.”
    – Thomas Jefferson, writing to his teenaged nephew.

    “Taking my gun away because I might shoot someone is like cutting my tongue out because I might yell `Fire!’ in a crowded theater.”
    – Peter Venetoklis

    …Virtually never are murderers the ordinary, law-abiding people against whom gun bans are aimed. Almost without exception, murderers are extreme aberrants with lifelong histories of crime, substance abuse, psychopathology, mental retardation and/or irrational violence against those around them, as well as other hazardous behavior, e.g., automobile and gun accidents.”
    – Don B. Kates, writing on statistical patterns in gun crime

    The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.”
    – Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story of the John Marshall Court

    Militias, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms. [...] To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.
    – Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on “militia” in the 2nd Amendment

    False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
    – Cesare Beccaria, as quoted by Thomas Jefferson’s Commonplace book

    No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave.
    – “Political Disquisitions”, a British republican tract of 1774-1775

    Are we at last brought to such a humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defence? Where is the difference between having our arms in our own possession and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defence be the *real* object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?
    – Patrick Henry, speech of June 9 1788

    “To disarm the people… was the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
    – George Mason, speech of June 14, 1788

    “The great object is, that every man be armed. [...] Every one who is able may have a gun.”
    – Patrick Henry, speech of June 14 1788

    Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen.
    – “M.T. Cicero”, in a newspaper letter of 1788 touching the “militia” referred to in the Second Amendment to the Constitution.

    That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United states who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms…
    – Samuel Adams, in “Phila. Independent Gazetteer”, August 20, 1789

    The danger (where there is any) from armed citizens, is only to the *government*, not to *society*; and as long as they have nothing to revenge in the government (which they cannot have while it is in their own hands) there are many advantages in their being accustomed to the use of arms, and no possible disadvantage.
    – Joel Barlow, “Advice to the Privileged Orders”, 1792-93

    Every Communist must grasp the truth, ‘Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.’
    – Mao Tse-tung, 1938, inadvertently endorsing the Second Amendment.

    In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a ‘shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length’ at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. [...] The Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense.
    – Majority Supreme Court opinion in “U.S. vs. Miller” (1939)

    An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
    – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon”, 1942

    The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.
    – Adolph Hitler, April 11 1942.

    The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.
    – A.E. Van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops Of Isher”, ASF December 1942

    Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. [...] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.
    – Hubert H. Humphrey, 1960

    No matter how one approaches the figures, one is forced to the rather startling conclusion that the use of firearms in crime was very much less when there were no controls of any sort and when anyone, convicted criminal or lunatic, could buy any type of firearm without restriction. Half a century of strict controls on pistols has ended, perversely, with a far greater use of this weapon in crime than ever before.
    – Colin Greenwood, in the study “Firearms Control”, 1972

    Let us hope our weapons are never needed –but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government — and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws.
    – Edward Abbey, “Abbey’s Road”, 1979

    If I were to select a jack-booted group of fascists who are perhaps as large a danger to American society as I could pick today, I would pick BATF [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms].
    – U.S. Representative John Dingell, 1980

    .. a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any particular individual citizen…
    – Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App.181)

    The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner.
    – Report of the Subcommittee On The Constitution of the Committee On The Judiciary, United States Senate, 97th Congress, second session (February, 1982), SuDoc# Y4.J 89/2: Ar 5/5

    In recent years it has been suggested that the Second Amendment protects the “collective” right of states to maintain militias, while it does not protect the right of “the people” to keep and bear arms. If anyone entertained this notion in the period during which the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were debated and ratified, it remains one of the most closely guarded secrets of the eighteenth century, for no known writing surviving from the period between 1787 and 1791 states such a thesis.
    – Stephen P. Halbrook, “That Every Man Be Armed”, 1984

    To make inexpensive guns impossible to get is to say that you’re putting a money test on getting a gun. It’s racism in its worst form.
    – Roy Innis, president of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), 1988

    I don’t like the idea that the police department seems bent on keeping a pool of unarmed victims available for the predations of the criminal class.
    – David Mohler, 1989, on being denied a carry permit in NYC

    Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don’t have a gun, freedom of speech has no power.
    – Yoshimi Ishikawa, Japanese author, in the LA Times 15 Oct 1992

    You know why there’s a Second Amendment? In case the government fails to follow the first one.
    – Rush Limbaugh, in a moment of unaccustomed profundity 17 Aug 1993

    The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals… It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.
    – Albert Gallatin, Oct 7 1789

    The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.
    – James Earl Jones

    Whether the authorities be invaders or merely local tyrants, the effect of such [gun control] laws is to place the individual at the mercy of the state, unable to resist.
    – Robert Anson Heinlein, 1949

    Strict gun laws are about as effective as strict drug laws…It pains me to say this, but the NRA seems to be right: The cities and states that have the toughest gun laws have the most murder and mayhem.
    – Mike Royko, Chicago Tribune

    If gun laws in fact worked, the sponsors of this type of legislation should have no difficulty drawing upon long lists of examples of criminal acts reduced by such legislation. That they cannot do so after a century and a half of trying — that they must sweep under the rug the southern attempts at gun control in the 1870-1910 period, the northeastern attempts in the 1920-1939 period, the attempts at both Federal and State levels in 1965-1976 — establishes the repeated, complete and inevitable failure of gun laws to control serious crime.
    – Senator Orrin Hatch, in a 1982 Senate Report

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them.
    – Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491

    Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops.
    – Noah Webster

    [President Clinton] boasts about 186,000 people denied firearms under the Brady Law rules. The Brady Law has been in force for three years. In that time, they have prosecuted seven people and put three of them in prison. You know, the President has entertained more felons than that at fundraising coffees in the White House, for Pete’s sake.”
    – Charlton Heston, FOX News Sunday, 18 May 1997

    (Those) who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it’s not an individual right (are) courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don’t like.
    – Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School

    The right of self-defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.”
    – Henry St. George Tucker (in Blackstone’s Commentaries)

    “Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms.”

    The biggest hypocrites on gun control are those who live in upscale developments with armed security guards — and who want to keep other people from having guns to defend themselves. But what about lower-income people living in high-crime, inner city neighborhoods? Should such people be kept unarmed and helpless, so that limousine liberals can ‘make a statement’ by adding to the thousands of gun laws already on the books?”
    –Thomas Sowell

    “Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns.”
    – U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, “Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse,” August 1995.

    Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
    – L. Neil Smith

    A man with a gun is a citizen. A man without a gun is a subject.
    “Gun control” is a job-safety program for criminals.

    During waves of terror attacks, Israel’s national police chief will call on all concealed-handgun permit holders to make sure they carry firearms at all times, and Israelis have many examples where concealed permit holders have saved lives.
    – John R. Lott

    “Historical examination of the right to bear arms, from English antecedents to the drafting of the Second Amendment, bears proof that the right to bear arms has consistently been, and should still be, construed as an individual right.”
    – U.S. District Judge Sam Cummings, in re U.S. vs Emerson (1999).

    • 45caliber

      All good quotes.

  • Jay

    Obama knows the reason for disarming the people. He’s a great student of history. He saw how Stalin disarmed the Russian People and how Hitler disarmed every German who wasn’t a NAZI collaborator or in his words “Untermenchen” or sub human. Obama has viewed armed, law-abiding people as slack-jawed bible-thumping morons or Untermenchen. The difference between Hitler and Stalin’s victims and law-abiding Americans is we are committed to the proposition that all men are created equal and endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights. He can play his games but 88 million Americans own guns and we will not go down without a fight. So bring it comrade Obama; just try us. God bless the USA and God bless the law-abiding American people.

  • Buffalojohn

    You folks that live in Illinois have nobody to blame but yourself.
    Most of you have voted the same criminals back into office over and over for decades.I guess you thought you were going to keep getting free bees.Why didn’t you catch on,the politicians there are
    like drug dealers.They will give you all kinds of free bees to get you hooked,then It’ll cost you to continue the habit.Hand guns have been more or less outlawed in Illinois for as long as I can remember,
    BUT THE CRIMINALS ALWAYS HAD GUNS in their possession no matter what the law had in the books.I was from Wisconsin decades ago but moved out in 63,best move of my life.Were I live now you can carry no problim,try to do that there ‘problim’.Next time you people vote for a politician know what the hell they stand for,make sure they will do what you want.So often when they get into office it is suddenly all about them,what they can do or get for them self forget the folks that voted them into office.How many of you voted the criminal ovomet into office KNOWING he wasn’t ELIGIBIL to hold the office of the President,but voted for him anyway.Next time you vote GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS,and KNOW WHAT and WHO YOUR VOTING FOR.

    • Bagworm

      I beg to differ with you. These last several elections were carried by Chicago – and all the dead people that they’ve had voting for unpteen years, with a little help from E. St Louis. The rest of the state voted for the good guys. The fact that some good guys got elected anyway is a testament to the fact that Chicago’s goons didn’t care about them.

  • James

    I think the bottom line here is that most people we see, who ae against guns, are well-meaning they would simply like to see all guns disappear. However, the money-people behind them have a more ominous goal, they want Americans disarmed so when we are invaded there will be less resistance.

    • 45caliber


  • John

    Your can make all the laws you want,just remember a criminal doesn’t
    care about the laws thats why their called criminals da,criminals are given the upper hand when they know we are not allowed to carry anything to defend ourselves,they say their affraid of road rage guess what their is still road rage that results in someone using a gun because again criminals don’t care about the laws a will still get that gun and carry it,oh yea criminals do care about laws they don’t want us to defend ourselves.Did they ever think maybe if people might think you have a gun they would think twice before they would start something to cause road rage and no matter what you do there will always be some nut case that doesn’t care about the value of life so at least give law abiding citizens a law to help preserve our families life and our fellow citizen life the maybe more people would get invole and help each other.


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